[Hai-users] Replacing ALC switch with UPB

Fri Aug 3 14:20:48 CDT 2012

I'm really surprised to hear about the problems others have had.  I have 
about 50 switches (mix of dimmers and relay) along with about 10 remotes 
and have only had one problem in more than 12 years - a unit outside 
that was in an enclosure that was not well sealed.   I do have a star 
configuration and, as Tom mentioned, it makes maintenance much easier.

Dave

On 8/3/2012 2:03 PM, Eric Rosenquist wrote:
> My experience with 60-odd ALC switches has been the same - very 
> disappointing given the price tag. I just had one fail where local 
> control didn't even work - that was a first; I replaced it with a $2 
> Decora switch just so I could turn those lights on/off.
>
> I'll probably move to UPB or ZWave; the only real stumbling block is 
> what to do with my KPL-7 keypads - I have 10 of them and they're only 
> wired with Cat5.
>
> If I upgrade my old Aegis board to an OmniPro-II then I can still use 
> them. If I stick with the Aegis or go with another automation/security 
> system then I'll need to replace the keypads or find a way to make 
> them talk to UPB/ZWave.
>
>
> On Fri, Aug 3, 2012 at 11:36 AM, Dan Barclay <Dan at barclaysoftware.com 
> <mailto:Dan at barclaysoftware.com>> wrote:
>
>     Hi Tom,
>
>     I've also had issues with the ALC.  Pretty disappointing
>     actually.   With 60 or 70 switches in my own home I have a  large
>     percentage that no longer communicate and I'm looking into
>     replacement.  Most failed one by one but I later had some nearby
>     lightning that took some out.
>
>     Is UPB the way to go?  What are the pros/cons of the options  (I
>     have pretty much every kind of alc -- relay, high/low power
>     dimmer, with and without 3 way, etc).
>
>     Thoughts?
>
>     Dan
>
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>     *Subject:* Re: [Hai-users] Replacing ALC switch with UPB
>
>     The 2 remote switches are probably fine, they only generate
>     contact closure.  All you should have to do is match the dip
>     switch settings and replace the switch.
>
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>     [mailto:hai-users-bounces at tssi.com] *On Behalf Of *Brad
>     *Sent:* Thursday, August 02, 2012 11:21 PM
>     *To:* bob at ocken.org <mailto:bob at ocken.org>; hai-users at tssi.com
>     <mailto:hai-users at tssi.com>
>     *Subject:* Re: [Hai-users] Replacing ALC switch with UPB
>
>     Worthington Distribution still sells ALC switchs.
>
>     *From:*Bob Ocken <mailto:bob at ocken.org>
>
>     *Sent:*Thursday, August 02, 2012 9:11 PM
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>     *To:*hai-users at tssi.com <mailto:hai-users at tssi.com>
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>     *Subject:*[Hai-users] Replacing ALC switch with UPB
>
>     I have a On-Q ALC  relay switch that has died and a quick look at
>     different vendors tells me that this switch is discontinued and
>     not readily available.  Unfortunately this switch also has two
>     other remote switches that communicate via low voltage cables.  Is
>     there any way to replace the switches without fishing 120 volt
>     cables between the switches?
>
>      I have an Omni Pro II controller that also handles UPB switches
>     and I would be open to using UPB switches.   Or,  what other
>     options do I have?
>
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