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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">I'm really surprised to hear about the
problems others have had. I have about 50 switches (mix of
dimmers and relay) along with about 10 remotes and have only had
one problem in more than 12 years - a unit outside that was in an
enclosure that was not well sealed. I do have a star
configuration and, as Tom mentioned, it makes maintenance much
easier.<br>
<br>
Dave<br>
<br>
On 8/3/2012 2:03 PM, Eric Rosenquist wrote:<br>
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cite="mid:CALwAbgitVefxQ2f3R3e6=4FG=3ggoj8gupgKgwqasptSY-0RHA@mail.gmail.com"
type="cite">My experience with 60-odd ALC switches has been the
same - very disappointing given the price tag. I just had one fail
where local control didn't even work - that was a first; I
replaced it with a $2 Decora switch just so I could turn those
lights on/off.
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<div>I'll probably move to UPB or ZWave; the only real stumbling
block is what to do with my KPL-7 keypads - I have 10 of them
and they're only wired with Cat5.</div>
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<div>If I upgrade my old Aegis board to an OmniPro-II then I can
still use them. If I stick with the Aegis or go with another
automation/security system then I'll need to replace the keypads
or find a way to make them talk to UPB/ZWave.</div>
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<div class="gmail_quote">On Fri, Aug 3, 2012 at 11:36 AM, Dan
Barclay <span dir="ltr"><<a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:Dan@barclaysoftware.com" target="_blank">Dan@barclaysoftware.com</a>></span>
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style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">Hi
Tom,</span></p>
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<span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d"> </span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">I’ve
also had issues with the ALC. Pretty disappointing
actually. With 60 or 70 switches in my own home I
have a large percentage that no longer communicate
and I’m looking into replacement. Most failed one
by one but I later had some nearby lightning that
took some out.</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d"> </span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">Is
UPB the way to go? What are the pros/cons of the
options (I have pretty much every kind of alc –
relay, high/low power dimmer, with and without 3
way, etc). </span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span
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<b>Subject:</b> Re: [Hai-users] Replacing ALC
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">The
2 remote switches are probably fine, they only
generate contact closure. All you should have to
do is match the dip switch settings and replace
the switch. </span></p>
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style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";color:windowtext">From:</span></b><span
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[<a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:hai-users-bounces@tssi.com"
target="_blank">mailto:hai-users-bounces@tssi.com</a>]
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Brad<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Thursday, August 02, 2012 11:21
PM<br>
<b>To:</b> <a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:bob@ocken.org" target="_blank">bob@ocken.org</a>;
<a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:hai-users@tssi.com"
target="_blank">hai-users@tssi.com</a><br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [Hai-users] Replacing ALC
switch with UPB</span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-family:"Comic Sans
MS";color:green">Worthington Distribution
still sells ALC switchs.</span></p>
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<a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:bob@ocken.org"
title="bob@ocken.org" target="_blank">Bob
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[Hai-users] Replacing ALC switch with UPB</span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">I have a On-Q ALC relay switch
that has died and a quick look at different vendors
tells me that this switch is discontinued and not
readily available. Unfortunately this switch also
has two other remote switches that communicate via
low voltage cables. Is there any way to replace the
switches without fishing 120 volt cables between the
switches? <br>
<br>
I have an Omni Pro II controller that also handles
UPB switches and I would be open to using UPB
switches. Or, what other options do I have?</p>
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