[NU Sports] Harvard and NU
hakirsch at aol.com
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Tue Mar 13 12:32:00 CDT 2012
No one can know the answer. Just as asking how would Kentucky have fared in the BT this year ?
But given the lack of BT games played by Harvard, we can only go on subjective rankings. Based on that, depending upon which supposed expert(s) you listen to, they would have finished at least in the top half. Would they have actually been there after a grueling BT let 'em play schedule ? Hard to say, but would have been interesting. How would NU have fared in the Ivy League ? Your guess is as good as mine
Harry
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From: "Roy S. Lamberton" <rstetson at capps-assoc.com>
Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2012 13:00:18
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Subject: RE: [NU Sports] Harvard and NU
Which still leaves my original question open, would Harvard finish in the top 7 in the Big
10 with their present players, and the rest of the conference....
While they would probably adjust, I think a full schedule I the Big 10 is a lot tougher
than the Ivy League, even with Princeton and Yale.
rsl
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Harvard was ranked this year, we weren't. The pollsters obviously feel they were better
than us.
They are supposed to take into account ease of conference, ease of schedule and assuming
they did,they still concluded that they were better. A good test is to see how they do in
the tourney. Of course , that test is not always a good one. In the early 80's Depaul was
seated first at least 2 years in a row, and maybe a third, and lost all 3 times in the
opening round.
Harry
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Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2012 11:43:24
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But what would Harvard's record be in the Big 10? As good as NU's, Worse?
It is all speculation, but I'm pretty sure that BC in the Big 10 has to recruit some
better athletes to stay competitive with the rest of the conference. Just my opinion...
rsl
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Subject: [NU Sports] Harvard and NU
In looking for something to help Eric out with the urban legend that is Tommy Amaker, I
found this great article that goes in depth on Harvard's recent basketball success.
http://www.ballinisahabit.net/2011/08/rise-of-crimson-how-harvard-went-f
rom.html
"We're very comfortable with who we are," Harvard assistant coach Yanni Hufnagel told me
by phone on Tuesday night. "We know that we're an Ivy.
We know that we might not have the biggest arena or the best locker room. But what we
think we have here is the best brand in the world and an incredible environment for the
right kid."
"[The kids we recruit] come from great families who understand that Harvard's not a four
year decision, it's a 40 year decision."
As Hufnagel explains it, the high academic requirement actually works in their favor.
Whereas some of the bigger programs can literally recruit any kid in the country that is
capable of signing his name on a letter of intent, Harvard has to narrow down their
search. The pool of kids they can choose from is limited. And while that requires the
coaching staff to do their due diligence identifying potential recruits, it also allows
them to focus their energy on the kids that they know they can get into school.
"We've been very aggressive in trying to figure out who we want to recruit," Hufnagel
said. "We want to get the best players in the country who are academically motivated and
who are looking to take a little bit of a different path to greatness."
Hufnagel also stressed the value of building a strong relationship not only with the kid
he is recruiting, but with the people in his life on a day-to-day basis.
"That's important," he said. "Without a strong relationship, we've got very little chance
to have the kind of success we're having and hope to have in the future."
Bottom line, this is the same formula that Fitz uses to recruit smart competitive football
players.
It works the same way in basketball.
If there are enough smart good basketball players willing to more or less pay their own
way to play for Harvard, there are also enough smart good basketball players who would
value a free NU education. Just have to find them, create a relationship with them and
their families as they enter high school, and then welcome them when it is time for them
to choose a college.
Jeff
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