[NU Sports] Harvard and NU
Tom Maycock
tkmaycock at yahoo.com
Tue Mar 13 12:13:40 CDT 2012
For what it's worth, Sagarin ratings would put Harvard in 7th place in the Big 10, just above Minny and NU.
They had one nice win against FSU, but only had one other game against a top 50 team, which they lost. So, not a lot of information to go on as to how well they would fare against the Big 10.
Tom
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>Which still leaves my original question open, would Harvard finish in the top 7 in the Big
>10 with their present players, and the rest of the conference....
>
>While they would probably adjust, I think a full schedule I the Big 10 is a lot tougher
>than the Ivy League, even with Princeton and Yale.
>
>rsl
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>Harvard was ranked this year, we weren't. The pollsters obviously feel they were better
>than us.
>
>They are supposed to take into account ease of conference, ease of schedule and assuming
>they did,they still concluded that they were better. A good test is to see how they do in
>the tourney. Of course , that test is not always a good one. In the early 80's Depaul was
>seated first at least 2 years in a row, and maybe a third, and lost all 3 times in the
>opening round.
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>Harry
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>But what would Harvard's record be in the Big 10? As good as NU's, Worse?
>
>It is all speculation, but I'm pretty sure that BC in the Big 10 has to recruit some
>better athletes to stay competitive with the rest of the conference. Just my opinion...
>
>rsl
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>http://coachroy.org
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>Beamsley, Jeff
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>In looking for something to help Eric out with the urban legend that is Tommy Amaker, I
>found this great article that goes in depth on Harvard's recent basketball success.
>
>http://www.ballinisahabit.net/2011/08/rise-of-crimson-how-harvard-went-f
>rom.html
>
>"We're very comfortable with who we are," Harvard assistant coach Yanni Hufnagel told me
>by phone on Tuesday night. "We know that we're an Ivy.
>We know that we might not have the biggest arena or the best locker room. But what we
>think we have here is the best brand in the world and an incredible environment for the
>right kid."
>
>"[The kids we recruit] come from great families who understand that Harvard's not a four
>year decision, it's a 40 year decision."
>
>As Hufnagel explains it, the high academic requirement actually works in their favor.
>Whereas some of the bigger programs can literally recruit any kid in the country that is
>capable of signing his name on a letter of intent, Harvard has to narrow down their
>search. The pool of kids they can choose from is limited. And while that requires the
>coaching staff to do their due diligence identifying potential recruits, it also allows
>them to focus their energy on the kids that they know they can get into school.
>
>"We've been very aggressive in trying to figure out who we want to recruit," Hufnagel
>said. "We want to get the best players in the country who are academically motivated and
>who are looking to take a little bit of a different path to greatness."
>
>Hufnagel also stressed the value of building a strong relationship not only with the kid
>he is recruiting, but with the people in his life on a day-to-day basis.
>
>"That's important," he said. "Without a strong relationship, we've got very little chance
>to have the kind of success we're having and hope to have in the future."
>
>
>Bottom line, this is the same formula that Fitz uses to recruit smart competitive football
>players.
>
>It works the same way in basketball.
>
>If there are enough smart good basketball players willing to more or less pay their own
>way to play for Harvard, there are also enough smart good basketball players who would
>value a free NU education. Just have to find them, create a relationship with them and
>their families as they enter high school, and then welcome them when it is time for them
>to choose a college.
>
>Jeff
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