[NU Sports] Trying to make s**t taste like ice cream

Louis Martinaitis martinitis at aol.com
Fri Mar 9 07:18:49 CST 2012


Certainly our recruiting could be better. But as i said earlier, I believe the talent was good enough.  The end of game planning stunk.

I'd love to know what Tavaras was thinking as he listened in the time out huddles at the end.....

As I said earlier, 

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On Mar 8, 2012, at 7:54 PM, "Roy S. Lamberton" <rstetson at capps-assoc.com> wrote:

> I seem to remember one year, Tex Winter got commits from 5 of the top players in Chicago.
> 
> Only 2 of them could get in.
> 
> Like it or not, it takes a special kind of roundballer to come play at NU. It takes a kid
> who is willing to both shoot hoops for hours a day, AND spend another 3 or 4 hours doing
> homework. 
> 
> A kid who comes to NU to play basketball has to be a true student athlete, and anyone who
> hangs around top high school athletes know that you are lucky to have one of that kind of
> kid in each of the sports.
> 
> Illinois had some of the best talent in the state this year, and they couldn't win tonight
> either. 
> 
> NU has had a problem winning this year when the frosh point guard didn't get his shots to
> fall, and tonight, nobody could buy a layup, or so it seemed.
> 
> Now comes the big argument over BC - I refer you all to Kevin O'Neil's comments about BC
> and the NU job from the Trib, Carmody's a Survivor.
> http://www.chicagotribune.com/sports/college/ct-spt-0308-northwestern-big-ten-tournament--
> 20120308,0,720608.story
> 
> NU has now tried a new coach every 3 years, and one who sticks it out for 12. Can any of
> you argue that the teams of the rotating staff years were any better than the last 4?
> 
> (please try not to be personal or stoop to ad hominum attacks)
> 
> rsl
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: nwu-sports-bounces at tssi.com [mailto:nwu-sports-bounces at tssi.com] On Behalf Of Aaron
> Ament
> Sent: Thursday, March 08, 2012 10:40 PM
> To: hakirsch at aol.com
> Cc: NU Sports List; nwu-sports-bounces at tssi.com
> Subject: Re: [NU Sports] Trying to make s**t taste like ice cream
> 
> How many big men are there right now in high school around Chicago who are better than
> Alex Olah and can get admitted to NU?  There may be several but I'm not aware of many of
> them...
> 
> Sent from my iPad
> 
> On Mar 8, 2012, at 10:35 PM, hakirsch at aol.com wrote:
> 
>> My standards are low having been at NU during some of their worst years.  I rejoiced a
> few years later when we got our first NIT bid.  And like Aaron, I  realize that we are
> improved from when BC came in. But that is the problem. We compare BC to the rock bottom
> years that we had.  This is fine for the first few years when he was taking over a lousy
> program but after 12 years, it hasn't really worked. We all know it's due to our inability
> to recruit a handful of guys that can win. And Dennis ' assertion about big men is spot
> on. We can't really compete consistently without one. I think its time for  a change. Yes
> I know if Solo's shot goes in many of us would be singing a different tune but that isn't
> really the point. 
>> 
>> My suggestion is to  get a top high school coach from the Chicagoland area who has
> contacts with a bunch of his peers and their assistants to find one good big man every
> year or 2 who can get admitted to NU and who can be convinced that its a smart move to
> play in Evanston. Its a gamble saying that essentially we should be able to find one
> nearby,(rather than Ohio,Indiana or elsewhere) but I think we got to try something
> different. 
>> 
>> Harry
>> Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry
>> 
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Aaron Ament <aaronsament at gmail.com>
>> Sender: nwu-sports-bounces at tssi.com
>> Date: Thu, 8 Mar 2012 22:17:30
>> To: shawn.folkes at comcast.net<shawn.folkes at comcast.net>
>> Cc: NU Sports List<nwu-sports at tssi.com>
>> Subject: Re: [NU Sports] Trying to make s**t taste like ice cream
>> 
>> Once again I also agree that Jonathan is completely wrong.  
>> 
>> My freshman year we were 0-17 in the Big Ten under KO.  We are now competitive with (and
> in the case of Mich St, have beaten) Top 10 teams in the country.  This was the best year
> in school history, at least since the 1930s..
>> 
>> Sent from my iPad
>> 
>> On Mar 8, 2012, at 9:23 PM, shawn.folkes at comcast.net wrote:
>> 
>>> I don't agree.  And I think there are a lot of fans out there like me. 
>>> 
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: "Jonathan Hodges" <j-hodges at alumni.northwestern.edu>
>>> To: inaugurationbook at yahoo.com
>>> Cc: "NU Sports List" <nwu-sports at tssi.com>
>>> Sent: Thursday, March 8, 2012 7:12:47 PM
>>> Subject: Re: [NU Sports] Trying to make s**t taste like ice cream
>>> 
>>> Also, it should be clear that Carmody will be gone and NU can finally 
>>> move on from an era that took 12 years where the biggest 
>>> accomplishment is 4 straight NITs.  If NU had somehow made it into 
>>> the tourney it would have been difficult to get rid of him.  I think 
>>> most everyone agrees its time for a new era in NU basketball, hopefully to take it to
> the next level.
>>> 
>>> Jonathan
>>> 
>>> --
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>>> 
>>> 
>>> On Thu, Mar 8, 2012 at 7:57 PM, <inaugurationbook at yahoo.com> wrote: 
>>> 
>>>> If we had won today, lost tomorrow, then not gotten a bid, we would 
>>>> have felt like we got screwed.
>>>> 
>>>> Now, because we lost, if we don't get a bid, we'll understand why. 
>>>> 
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