[NU Sports] Sun Times' Columnist puts his finger on the Ill-noise"problem"

chuck herron cherron604 at aol.com
Wed Feb 22 18:07:15 CST 2012


 When will we stop making excuses for Bill Carmody ?  He is now in his twelth season as NU coach.  Maybe his 'system' of getting lower-ranked prospects to (sometimes) play at a very high level' is why they can overachieve one game, and fall flat the next ?  Or maybe NU has been losing for so long on the court ?  Gary Barnett took a program that had been losing forever, and in 5 seasons, took them to 2 Big Ten titles.  And Barnett was not getting the highest-ranked prospects, but he certainly got consistent overachievement from his players.

We have to face facts - Carmody has, over twelve seasons, not recruited sufficiently talented players, and has not gotten them to over-achieve on a consistent basis.
  

Chuck Herron
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Time to run the table. We have the capability to do that even with the blowout 
loss to the Bucks earlier

Harry
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From: "Beamsley, Jeff" <Jeff.Beamsley at covisint.com>
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Date: Wed, 22 Feb 2012 06:39:45 
To: Roy S. Lamberton<rstetson at capps-assoc.com>
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Subject: Re: [NU Sports] Sun Times' Columnist puts his finger on the
	Ill-noise"problem"

I think that we just got beat by a better team last night. 

UoM had every reason the let down after beating OSU, bit didn't.  

They just played better D than us. 

They forced us out of our game by aggressively defending the three and switching 
on all screens. 

They were able to get their three point shooters open looks  against our D and 
those kids made their shots. 

We had them in foul trouble early, but they fixed that in the second half. 

Sobo had another tough game, but you really can't blame this on him. All our 
kids gave max effort and just ran out of gas in OT. 

It was a very tough loss, because a win was there for the taking. Just turned 
out that UoM was the one who took it. 

Jeff 

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On Feb 22, 2012, at 6:18 AM, "Roy S. Lamberton" <rstetson at capps-assoc.com> 
wrote:

> "So the question at the heart of Weber’s demise is this: Why is it so much 
more difficult
> to get better players to overachieve? Maybe Weber is just more adept at 
getting more out
> of less. But you also have to consider this possibility: Maybe good players 
are harder to
> coach today. Maybe the increasing influence of AAU programs in the development 
of young
> players — and the decreasing influence of high school coaches — instills a 
sense of
> entitlement in talented players that makes it difficult for a coach like Bruce 
Weber to
> get through to them."
> Full Sun Times column: 
> http://www.suntimes.com/sports/colleges/10784671-419/what-went-wrong-with-bruce-weber-at-i
> llinois.html
> 
> And maybe NU's (Bill Carmody's) system of getting lower ranked prospects to 
(sometimes)
> play at a very high level is why NU can overachieving one game, and fall flat 
the next? 
> 
> Or maybe it is just that NU has been losing for so long on the court...
> 
> Kelly Amonte-Hiller didn't have that baggage when she took came in to start 
the Women's
> Lacrosse program. She had her personal tradition of winning (from Maryland) 
and never had
> to face the "never been there" syndrome that always seem to lurk in the 
background at
> Welsh-Ryan.
> 
> I know that once you lose that "winning" feeling, it can take a long time to 
get it back.
> If you've never had a real winner, creating a winner is even harder.
> 
> rsl
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