[NU Sports] Bielema Calls Out Meyer on Recruiting Tactics

Sat Feb 4 07:03:40 CST 2012

My late father--whom I have written about here--always taught me that "your word is your bond".  RW and Fitz assuredly learned the same lesson growing up from Papa Walker and Father Fitz.  Guess they skipped that lecture at Chez Meyer and Chez Zook.  They got the abridged version--SEC style--"your word is only as good as I can persuade you to take it back".

And remember Jim Harbaugh pulling back from Kain Colter once the throwing shoulder sustained injury.  Treachery goes both ways at the coaching level. 

 As we say among lawyers, "that oral contract isn't worth the paper it is printed on."

Paul Levinson
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Subject: Re: [NU Sports] Bielema Calls Out Meyer on Recruiting Tactics

There was an old Randy Walker story about some assistant who asked about trying to contact
some commit at another school who was rumored to be "reevaluating" and RW wouldn't let him
talk to the kid.

He also expected his commits to honor their commitments which was why you had to
personally commit to Walker.

Zook tried to swing some Chicago kids when he took over IL. That worked really well for
him as I remember.

Times have changed

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Subject: Re: [NU Sports] Bielema Calls Out Meyer on Recruiting Tactics

ESPN had a follow up stating the coaches (through Pat Fitz as the spokesperson) do not
have an unwritten agreement not to poach,but will "respect " each other 

Harry

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Subject: Re: [NU Sports] Bielema Calls Out Meyer on Recruiting Tactics

Wow ... this is a tough one. On one hand, you have the Smug Smirk of Cheddarland whining
(and given his benefitting last year from a redshirt transfer, I dunno if he should throw
too many stones) ... and on the other hand, you have St. Urban of Sanctimonious Pomposity
helping dOSU truly reach their potential of becoming an "SEC school in Big Ten clothing."

No sympathy for either of those guys ... the interesting person to watch is Papa Barry --
who could use his AD clout to throw down some rules in the Big Ten to make sure this
doesn't spread.

Should add some spice to the UW/OSU rivalry - one of the more underrated ones of the past
two decades with some big-time games between the two.

BTW, I tend to look at OSU's recruiting class as a "Lemming" -- the same way that every
single Notre Dame class was ranked top 5 by the recruiting guru, so will any Urban Meyer
class. So I'm not sure at this point that the class is as good as advertised or if they
didn't just get a 10% markup for the coach's name.

How many days until spring football?

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Subject: Re: [NU Sports] Bielema Calls Out Meyer on Recruiting Tactics

As Yogi Berra might have said" The problem with unwritten rules is that nobody writes them
down"

Harry
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Subject: Re: [NU Sports] Bielema Calls Out Meyer on Recruiting Tactics

Good to see Bielema calling UM out about poaching.

Based on the reports that I've read, UM actively recruits kids who have already given
verbal commits to other schools.  While this is a common practice in some leagues, and
certainly legal under NCAA rules, the unwritten rule in the BT is that you don't poach
from BT other schools.  Apparently nobody told UM.  

So how did UM assemble his great recruiting class in just a little over two months on the
job?  He stole one from MSU, one from Wisky, four from PSU, and two from other schools
outside the BT.  

These tactics pretty much transformed the SEC into an NCAA recruiting violations cesspool.

If this year's recruiting class is any indication, the BT may also become much more
competitive between schools.

It is tough to argue with the results because the SEC does out recruit every other
conference for top athletes, but at what cost?

Jeff  

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Subject: [NU Sports] Bielema Calls Out Meyer on Recruiting Tactics

From the Trib:
http://www.chicagotribune.com/sports/college/chi-bielema-calls-out-meyer-on-illegal-recrui
ting-tactics-20120202,0,3093232.story

Which could explain why dOSU changed coaches and still had a top 5 class grabbing 4
players from State Penn.

But what is great is that none of these rumors and complaints ever seem to involve NU.

Refreshing, now let the kids play.

rsl

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Roy S. Lamberton - Senior Associate.
Computer Applications & Support Associates
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--------------------- Also ----------------------
"Commissioner" Delaware American Legion Baseball
Director Media Relations - Little League 
  Senior League Softball World Series
CTR2 USN (67-70) - CTRCS USNR (Ret) (64-67/70-95)
Northwestern University - Speech 1974 - 
Chi Phi: Pi 1974, KD 1968
Publisher Emeritus: Purple Reign (Fox Sports)
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There is nothing wrong with America that the faith, 
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cannot cure - Dwight D. Eisenhower
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If we become a country in which we say, 'Please, 
tell me how to live,' We're Doomed!"
                  -- Pete Hamill, "Prohibition"
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