From rstetson at capps-assoc.com  Wed Feb  1 07:33:19 2012
From: rstetson at capps-assoc.com (Roy S. Lamberton)
Date: Wed, 1 Feb 2012 08:33:19 -0500
Subject: [NU Sports] 6 guys named Jones
Message-ID: <002c01cce0e6$107a6b60$316f4220$@com>

NU Sports just noted that with today's signings, the Cats will have 6 guys named Jones on
the roster.

Will make it easy for writers, everyone knows how to spell Jones.

But during a game when Fitz yells, "Jones get in there." Will 6 guys rush the field?

Or will we have a new defensive set, "The Jones Set." (or maybe an offensive set? Since 3
of the 4 present "Joneses" are offensive guys)

rsl

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  Senior League Softball World Series
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Northwestern University - Speech 1974 - 
Chi Phi: Pi 1974, KD 1968
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=================================================
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cannot cure - Dwight D. Eisenhower
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If we become a country in which we say, 'Please, 
tell me how to live,' We're Doomed!"
                   -- Pete Hamill, "Prohibition"
===========  Go Cats -? Beat 'em All  ===========





From rstetson at capps-assoc.com  Wed Feb  1 07:36:26 2012
From: rstetson at capps-assoc.com (Roy S. Lamberton)
Date: Wed, 1 Feb 2012 08:36:26 -0500
Subject: [NU Sports] More on the 4 Star Linebacker....
Message-ID: <002d01cce0e6$7fe95600$7fbc0200$@com>

http://www.chicagotribune.com/sports/college/ct-spt-0201-northwestern-football--20120201,0
,7266374.story

Love his goal setting!

rsl

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--------------------- Also ----------------------
"Commissioner" Delaware American Legion Baseball
Director Media Relations - Little League 
  Senior League Softball World Series
CTR2 USN (67-70) - CTRCS USNR (Ret) (64-67/70-95)
Northwestern University - Speech 1974 - 
Chi Phi: Pi 1974, KD 1968
Publisher Emeritus: Purple Reign (Fox Sports)
=================================================
There is nothing wrong with America that the faith, 
love of freedom, intelligence and energy of her citizens 
cannot cure - Dwight D. Eisenhower
=  =  =  =  =  =  =  =  =  =  =  =  =  =  =  =  =
If we become a country in which we say, 'Please, 
tell me how to live,' We're Doomed!"
                   -- Pete Hamill, "Prohibition"
===========  Go Cats -? Beat 'em All  ===========





From Willie.Weinbaum at espn.com  Wed Feb  1 07:40:25 2012
From: Willie.Weinbaum at espn.com (Weinbaum, Willie)
Date: Wed, 1 Feb 2012 08:40:25 -0500
Subject: [NU Sports] 6 guys named Jones
In-Reply-To: <002c01cce0e6$107a6b60$316f4220$@com>
Message-ID: <1F89BB2CE7A5B94D969618E8CC769CC301468CAD2B@XCHGBRS4.corp.espn.pvt>

Thanks for helping us keep up with the Joneses.

----- Original Message -----
From: Roy S. Lamberton [mailto:rstetson at capps-assoc.com]
Sent: Wednesday, February 01, 2012 08:33 AM
To: nwu-sports at tssi.com <nwu-sports at tssi.com>
Subject: [NU Sports] 6 guys named Jones

NU Sports just noted that with today's signings, the Cats will have 6 guys named Jones on
the roster.

Will make it easy for writers, everyone knows how to spell Jones.

But during a game when Fitz yells, "Jones get in there." Will 6 guys rush the field?

Or will we have a new defensive set, "The Jones Set." (or maybe an offensive set? Since 3
of the 4 present "Joneses" are offensive guys)

rsl

+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
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those of any organizations of which I am a member.
+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
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Computer Applications & Support Associates
Coach Roy's Random Thoughts - http://coachroy.org
--------------------- Also ----------------------
"Commissioner" Delaware American Legion Baseball
Director Media Relations - Little League
  Senior League Softball World Series
CTR2 USN (67-70) - CTRCS USNR (Ret) (64-67/70-95)
Northwestern University - Speech 1974 -
Chi Phi: Pi 1974, KD 1968
Publisher Emeritus: Purple Reign (Fox Sports)
=================================================
There is nothing wrong with America that the faith,
love of freedom, intelligence and energy of her citizens
cannot cure - Dwight D. Eisenhower
=  =  =  =  =  =  =  =  =  =  =  =  =  =  =  =  =
If we become a country in which we say, 'Please,
tell me how to live,' We're Doomed!"
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From rstetson at capps-assoc.com  Wed Feb  1 08:02:41 2012
From: rstetson at capps-assoc.com (Roy S. Lamberton)
Date: Wed, 1 Feb 2012 09:02:41 -0500
Subject: [NU Sports] 6 guys named Jones
In-Reply-To: <1F89BB2CE7A5B94D969618E8CC769CC301468CAD2B@XCHGBRS4.corp.espn.pvt>
References: <002c01cce0e6$107a6b60$316f4220$@com>
 <1F89BB2CE7A5B94D969618E8CC769CC301468CAD2B@XCHGBRS4.corp.espn.pvt>
Message-ID: <003001cce0ea$2ab8b960$802a2c20$@com>

Right now it looks like it?s an offensive set, with all the WR's named Jones.

It would be great for the writers - all we need is a QB named Jones.

rsl

+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
Opinions expressed above are mine alone and are not
those of any organizations of which I am a member.
+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
Roy S. Lamberton - Senior Associate.
Computer Applications & Support Associates
Coach Roy's Random Thoughts - http://coachroy.org
--------------------- Also ----------------------
"Commissioner" Delaware American Legion Baseball
Director Media Relations - Little League 
  Senior League Softball World Series
CTR2 USN (67-70) - CTRCS USNR (Ret) (64-67/70-95)
Northwestern University - Speech 1974 - 
Chi Phi: Pi 1974, KD 1968
Publisher Emeritus: Purple Reign (Fox Sports)
=================================================
There is nothing wrong with America that the faith, 
love of freedom, intelligence and energy of her citizens 
cannot cure - Dwight D. Eisenhower
=  =  =  =  =  =  =  =  =  =  =  =  =  =  =  =  =
If we become a country in which we say, 'Please, 
tell me how to live,' We're Doomed!"
                   -- Pete Hamill, "Prohibition"
===========  Go Cats -? Beat 'em All  ===========



-----Original Message-----
From: nwu-sports-bounces at tssi.com [mailto:nwu-sports-bounces at tssi.com] On Behalf Of
Weinbaum, Willie
Sent: Wednesday, February 01, 2012 8:40 AM
To: 'nwu-sports at tssi.com'
Subject: Re: [NU Sports] 6 guys named Jones

Thanks for helping us keep up with the Joneses.

----- Original Message -----
From: Roy S. Lamberton [mailto:rstetson at capps-assoc.com]
Sent: Wednesday, February 01, 2012 08:33 AM
To: nwu-sports at tssi.com <nwu-sports at tssi.com>
Subject: [NU Sports] 6 guys named Jones

NU Sports just noted that with today's signings, the Cats will have 6 guys named Jones on
the roster.

Will make it easy for writers, everyone knows how to spell Jones.

But during a game when Fitz yells, "Jones get in there." Will 6 guys rush the field?

Or will we have a new defensive set, "The Jones Set." (or maybe an offensive set? Since 3
of the 4 present "Joneses" are offensive guys)

rsl

+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
Opinions expressed above are mine alone and are not those of any organizations of which I
am a member.
+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
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Computer Applications & Support Associates Coach Roy's Random Thoughts -
http://coachroy.org
--------------------- Also ---------------------- "Commissioner" Delaware American Legion
Baseball Director Media Relations - Little League
  Senior League Softball World Series
CTR2 USN (67-70) - CTRCS USNR (Ret) (64-67/70-95) Northwestern University - Speech 1974 -
Chi Phi: Pi 1974, KD 1968 Publisher Emeritus: Purple Reign (Fox Sports)
=================================================
There is nothing wrong with America that the faith, love of freedom, intelligence and
energy of her citizens cannot cure - Dwight D. Eisenhower =  =  =  =  =  =  =  =  =  =  =
=  =  =  =  =  = If we become a country in which we say, 'Please, tell me how to live,'
We're Doomed!"
                   -- Pete Hamill, "Prohibition"
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From neonrye at aol.com  Wed Feb  1 08:10:39 2012
From: neonrye at aol.com (neonrye at aol.com)
Date: Wed, 1 Feb 2012 14:10:39 +0000
Subject: [NU Sports] 6 guys named Jones
In-Reply-To: <1F89BB2CE7A5B94D969618E8CC769CC301468CAD2B@XCHGBRS4.corp.espn.pvt>
References: <002c01cce0e6$107a6b60$316f4220$@com>
 <1F89BB2CE7A5B94D969618E8CC769CC301468CAD2B@XCHGBRS4.corp.espn.pvt>
Message-ID: <909684792-1328105354-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-798993398-@b5.c19.bise6.blackberry>

It's a very appropriate recruiting block for this List, since most of us have a Wildcat football "Jones".:-)
Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry

-----Original Message-----
From: "Weinbaum, Willie" <Willie.Weinbaum at espn.com>
Sender: nwu-sports-bounces at tssi.com
Date: Wed, 1 Feb 2012 08:40:25 
To: 'nwu-sports at tssi.com'<nwu-sports at tssi.com>
Subject: Re: [NU Sports] 6 guys named Jones

Thanks for helping us keep up with the Joneses.

----- Original Message -----
From: Roy S. Lamberton [mailto:rstetson at capps-assoc.com]
Sent: Wednesday, February 01, 2012 08:33 AM
To: nwu-sports at tssi.com <nwu-sports at tssi.com>
Subject: [NU Sports] 6 guys named Jones

NU Sports just noted that with today's signings, the Cats will have 6 guys named Jones on
the roster.

Will make it easy for writers, everyone knows how to spell Jones.

But during a game when Fitz yells, "Jones get in there." Will 6 guys rush the field?

Or will we have a new defensive set, "The Jones Set." (or maybe an offensive set? Since 3
of the 4 present "Joneses" are offensive guys)

rsl

+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
Opinions expressed above are mine alone and are not
those of any organizations of which I am a member.
+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
Roy S. Lamberton - Senior Associate.
Computer Applications & Support Associates
Coach Roy's Random Thoughts - http://coachroy.org
--------------------- Also ----------------------
"Commissioner" Delaware American Legion Baseball
Director Media Relations - Little League
  Senior League Softball World Series
CTR2 USN (67-70) - CTRCS USNR (Ret) (64-67/70-95)
Northwestern University - Speech 1974 -
Chi Phi: Pi 1974, KD 1968
Publisher Emeritus: Purple Reign (Fox Sports)
=================================================
There is nothing wrong with America that the faith,
love of freedom, intelligence and energy of her citizens
cannot cure - Dwight D. Eisenhower
=  =  =  =  =  =  =  =  =  =  =  =  =  =  =  =  =
If we become a country in which we say, 'Please,
tell me how to live,' We're Doomed!"
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From rstetson at capps-assoc.com  Wed Feb  1 08:17:32 2012
From: rstetson at capps-assoc.com (Roy S. Lamberton)
Date: Wed, 1 Feb 2012 09:17:32 -0500
Subject: [NU Sports] Dwight White Jr.
Message-ID: <003101cce0ec$3dbbe710$b933b530$@com>

They say the fruit doesn't fall far from the tree.

His late father had 4 Super Bowl rings from his days at the Steelers as one of the "Steel
Curtain."

And I don't think the recruiting gurus think he's one of the better players in the class -
but he is from Conteh's school.

rsl

+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
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those of any organizations of which I am a member.
+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
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Computer Applications & Support Associates
Coach Roy's Random Thoughts - http://coachroy.org
--------------------- Also ----------------------
"Commissioner" Delaware American Legion Baseball
Director Media Relations - Little League 
  Senior League Softball World Series
CTR2 USN (67-70) - CTRCS USNR (Ret) (64-67/70-95)
Northwestern University - Speech 1974 - 
Chi Phi: Pi 1974, KD 1968
Publisher Emeritus: Purple Reign (Fox Sports)
=================================================
There is nothing wrong with America that the faith, 
love of freedom, intelligence and energy of her citizens 
cannot cure - Dwight D. Eisenhower
=  =  =  =  =  =  =  =  =  =  =  =  =  =  =  =  =
If we become a country in which we say, 'Please, 
tell me how to live,' We're Doomed!"
                   -- Pete Hamill, "Prohibition"
===========  Go Cats -? Beat 'em All  ===========





From rstetson at capps-assoc.com  Wed Feb  1 08:24:03 2012
From: rstetson at capps-assoc.com (Roy S. Lamberton)
Date: Wed, 1 Feb 2012 09:24:03 -0500
Subject: [NU Sports] Kids of NFL guys....
Message-ID: <003301cce0ed$2702fd00$7508f700$@com>

It seems that we're starting to get more than our share of "sons of NFL Players" now.

Dwight White's father was a major NFL star, but it seems that we've had several other kids
whose father was a pro player.

Wonder if anyone has worked that one up - I'll beg off, I already did the research on the
"Wildcat Jinx" (which appears to be back this year - no Cats in the Superbowl, I think)

rsl

+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
Opinions expressed above are mine alone and are not
those of any organizations of which I am a member.
+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
Roy S. Lamberton - Senior Associate.
Computer Applications & Support Associates
Coach Roy's Random Thoughts - http://coachroy.org
--------------------- Also ----------------------
"Commissioner" Delaware American Legion Baseball
Director Media Relations - Little League 
  Senior League Softball World Series
CTR2 USN (67-70) - CTRCS USNR (Ret) (64-67/70-95)
Northwestern University - Speech 1974 - 
Chi Phi: Pi 1974, KD 1968
Publisher Emeritus: Purple Reign (Fox Sports)
=================================================
There is nothing wrong with America that the faith, 
love of freedom, intelligence and energy of her citizens 
cannot cure - Dwight D. Eisenhower
=  =  =  =  =  =  =  =  =  =  =  =  =  =  =  =  =
If we become a country in which we say, 'Please, 
tell me how to live,' We're Doomed!"
                   -- Pete Hamill, "Prohibition"
===========  Go Cats -? Beat 'em All  ===========





From dmangoub at aol.com  Wed Feb  1 08:35:53 2012
From: dmangoub at aol.com (David Mangoubi)
Date: Wed, 1 Feb 2012 09:35:53 -0500 (EST)
Subject: [NU Sports] Kids of NFL guys....
In-Reply-To: <003301cce0ed$2702fd00$7508f700$@com>
References: <003301cce0ed$2702fd00$7508f700$@com>
Message-ID: <8CEAF05EF7BA4A4-2004-F5B0@webmail-d001.sysops.aol.com>


 Most recently Trai Essex got a ring with the Steelers so Northwestern is not a curse at winning Super Bowl championships.


Any other Cats with Super Bowl rings?


 

 

-----Original Message-----
From: Roy S. Lamberton <rstetson at capps-assoc.com>
To: nwu-sports <nwu-sports at tssi.com>
Sent: Wed, Feb 1, 2012 8:24 am
Subject: [NU Sports] Kids of NFL guys....


It seems that we're starting to get more than our share of "sons of NFL Players" 
now.

Dwight White's father was a major NFL star, but it seems that we've had several 
other kids
whose father was a pro player.

Wonder if anyone has worked that one up - I'll beg off, I already did the 
research on the
"Wildcat Jinx" (which appears to be back this year - no Cats in the Superbowl, I 
think)

rsl

+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
Opinions expressed above are mine alone and are not
those of any organizations of which I am a member.
+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
Roy S. Lamberton - Senior Associate.
Computer Applications & Support Associates
Coach Roy's Random Thoughts - http://coachroy.org
--------------------- Also ----------------------
"Commissioner" Delaware American Legion Baseball
Director Media Relations - Little League 
  Senior League Softball World Series
CTR2 USN (67-70) - CTRCS USNR (Ret) (64-67/70-95)
Northwestern University - Speech 1974 - 
Chi Phi: Pi 1974, KD 1968
Publisher Emeritus: Purple Reign (Fox Sports)
=================================================
There is nothing wrong with America that the faith, 
love of freedom, intelligence and energy of her citizens 
cannot cure - Dwight D. Eisenhower
=  =  =  =  =  =  =  =  =  =  =  =  =  =  =  =  =
If we become a country in which we say, 'Please, 
tell me how to live,' We're Doomed!"
                   -- Pete Hamill, "Prohibition"
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From j-hodges at alumni.northwestern.edu  Wed Feb  1 08:45:49 2012
From: j-hodges at alumni.northwestern.edu (Jonathan Hodges)
Date: Wed, 1 Feb 2012 09:45:49 -0500
Subject: [NU Sports] Kids of NFL guys....
In-Reply-To: <8CEAF05EF7BA4A4-2004-F5B0@webmail-d001.sysops.aol.com>
References: <003301cce0ed$2702fd00$7508f700$@com>
 <8CEAF05EF7BA4A4-2004-F5B0@webmail-d001.sysops.aol.com>
Message-ID: <CAAxRJu7BmqrCa43bTeMYsNG7FOrTm5BUJjfgy5Ynv6o=Vss0KQ@mail.gmail.com>

I believe Zach Strief was on New Orleans a couple of seasons ago when they
won (though he has more of a role now than he did then); Barry Cofield was
on the Giants when they won last (though he was in Washington this year
after leaving as a free agent).  I think this year breaks a string of at
least 4 years with a Northwestern alum in the Super Bowl (possibly 6 if you
count Matt Ulrich on the 2006 Colts, though I don't believe he was active
for the game; Herron & Essex were on Pittsburgh in '05 as well).

Jonathan

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On Wed, Feb 1, 2012 at 9:35 AM, David Mangoubi <dmangoub at aol.com> wrote:

>
>  Most recently Trai Essex got a ring with the Steelers so Northwestern is
> not a curse at winning Super Bowl championships.
>
>
> Any other Cats with Super Bowl rings?
>
>
>
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Roy S. Lamberton <rstetson at capps-assoc.com>
> To: nwu-sports <nwu-sports at tssi.com>
> Sent: Wed, Feb 1, 2012 8:24 am
> Subject: [NU Sports] Kids of NFL guys....
>
>
> It seems that we're starting to get more than our share of "sons of NFL
> Players"
> now.
>
> Dwight White's father was a major NFL star, but it seems that we've had
> several
> other kids
> whose father was a pro player.
>
> Wonder if anyone has worked that one up - I'll beg off, I already did the
> research on the
> "Wildcat Jinx" (which appears to be back this year - no Cats in the
> Superbowl, I
> think)
>
> rsl
>
> +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
> Opinions expressed above are mine alone and are not
> those of any organizations of which I am a member.
> +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
> Roy S. Lamberton - Senior Associate.
> Computer Applications & Support Associates
> Coach Roy's Random Thoughts - http://coachroy.org
> --------------------- Also ----------------------
> "Commissioner" Delaware American Legion Baseball
> Director Media Relations - Little League
>  Senior League Softball World Series
> CTR2 USN (67-70) - CTRCS USNR (Ret) (64-67/70-95)
> Northwestern University - Speech 1974 -
> Chi Phi: Pi 1974, KD 1968
> Publisher Emeritus: Purple Reign (Fox Sports)
> =================================================
> There is nothing wrong with America that the faith,
> love of freedom, intelligence and energy of her citizens
> cannot cure - Dwight D. Eisenhower
> =  =  =  =  =  =  =  =  =  =  =  =  =  =  =  =  =
> If we become a country in which we say, 'Please,
> tell me how to live,' We're Doomed!"
>                   -- Pete Hamill, "Prohibition"
> ===========  Go Cats -  Beat 'em All  ===========
>
>
>
>
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From rstetson at capps-assoc.com  Wed Feb  1 09:22:27 2012
From: rstetson at capps-assoc.com (Roy S. Lamberton)
Date: Wed, 1 Feb 2012 10:22:27 -0500
Subject: [NU Sports] Kids of NFL guys....
In-Reply-To: <8CEAF05EF7BA4A4-2004-F5B0@webmail-d001.sysops.aol.com>
References: <003301cce0ed$2702fd00$7508f700$@com>
 <8CEAF05EF7BA4A4-2004-F5B0@webmail-d001.sysops.aol.com>
Message-ID: <003801cce0f5$4f097150$ed1c53f0$@com>

Ahh, but that was not always true. Alan even talked about it here before Trai Essex broke
the jinx even though he was not technically "active" for the Super game.

By my calculations, 4 Cats have "Festivus" rings - 
The Steelers won in 2006 with a former Wildcat on their roster, although Trai Essex was
actually inactive for the game, which starts the argument about whether you have to be
active for the "curse" to officially be broken. Meanwhile, Matt Ulrich was active in 2007
for Indianapolis' win over Chicago. Barry Cofield played for the 2008 Giants, winners over
New England, Essex won again in 2009, and Zach Streif played in theSaint's win over Indy
in 2010

Anyway, here is a link to my story that originally ran on Purple Reign (now Purple
Wildcats)- I've copied it to my Blog.

http://coachroy.org/2012/02/01/it-used-to-be-the-curse-of-the-wildcats---nu-in-the-superbo
wl.aspx

rsl




+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
Opinions expressed above are mine alone and are not
those of any organizations of which I am a member.
+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
Roy S. Lamberton - Senior Associate.
Computer Applications & Support Associates
Coach Roy's Random Thoughts - http://coachroy.org
--------------------- Also ----------------------
"Commissioner" Delaware American Legion Baseball
Director Media Relations - Little League 
  Senior League Softball World Series
CTR2 USN (67-70) - CTRCS USNR (Ret) (64-67/70-95)
Northwestern University - Speech 1974 - 
Chi Phi: Pi 1974, KD 1968
Publisher Emeritus: Purple Reign (Fox Sports)
=================================================
There is nothing wrong with America that the faith, 
love of freedom, intelligence and energy of her citizens 
cannot cure - Dwight D. Eisenhower
=  =  =  =  =  =  =  =  =  =  =  =  =  =  =  =  =
If we become a country in which we say, 'Please, 
tell me how to live,' We're Doomed!"
                   -- Pete Hamill, "Prohibition"
===========  Go Cats -? Beat 'em All  ===========



-----Original Message-----
From: nwu-sports-bounces at tssi.com [mailto:nwu-sports-bounces at tssi.com] On Behalf Of David
Mangoubi
Sent: Wednesday, February 01, 2012 9:36 AM
To: nwu-sports at tssi.com
Subject: Re: [NU Sports] Kids of NFL guys....


 Most recently Trai Essex got a ring with the Steelers so Northwestern is not a curse at
winning Super Bowl championships.


Any other Cats with Super Bowl rings?


 

 

-----Original Message-----
From: Roy S. Lamberton <rstetson at capps-assoc.com>
To: nwu-sports <nwu-sports at tssi.com>
Sent: Wed, Feb 1, 2012 8:24 am
Subject: [NU Sports] Kids of NFL guys....


It seems that we're starting to get more than our share of "sons of NFL Players" 
now.

Dwight White's father was a major NFL star, but it seems that we've had several other kids
whose father was a pro player.

Wonder if anyone has worked that one up - I'll beg off, I already did the research on the
"Wildcat Jinx" (which appears to be back this year - no Cats in the Superbowl, I
think)

rsl

+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
Opinions expressed above are mine alone and are not those of any organizations of which I
am a member.
+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
Roy S. Lamberton - Senior Associate.
Computer Applications & Support Associates Coach Roy's Random Thoughts -
http://coachroy.org
--------------------- Also ---------------------- "Commissioner" Delaware American Legion
Baseball Director Media Relations - Little League
  Senior League Softball World Series
CTR2 USN (67-70) - CTRCS USNR (Ret) (64-67/70-95) Northwestern University - Speech 1974 -
Chi Phi: Pi 1974, KD 1968 Publisher Emeritus: Purple Reign (Fox Sports)
=================================================
There is nothing wrong with America that the faith, love of freedom, intelligence and
energy of her citizens cannot cure - Dwight D. Eisenhower =  =  =  =  =  =  =  =  =  =  =
=  =  =  =  =  = If we become a country in which we say, 'Please, tell me how to live,'
We're Doomed!"
                   -- Pete Hamill, "Prohibition"
===========  Go Cats -  Beat 'em All  ===========




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From Willie.Weinbaum at espn.com  Wed Feb  1 11:42:44 2012
From: Willie.Weinbaum at espn.com (Weinbaum, Willie)
Date: Wed, 1 Feb 2012 12:42:44 -0500
Subject: [NU Sports] Kids of NFL guys....
In-Reply-To: <003801cce0f5$4f097150$ed1c53f0$@com>
Message-ID: <1F89BB2CE7A5B94D969618E8CC769CC301468CAD46@XCHGBRS4.corp.espn.pvt>

Among coaches and staffers, NU alum Ernie Adams has been Bill Belichick's right-hand man for years and has received Super Bowl rings with the Pats.  See N'western Magazine story on him @ this link:

http://www.northwestern.edu/magazine/winter2008/feature/adams.html

----- Original Message -----
From: Roy S. Lamberton [mailto:rstetson at capps-assoc.com]
Sent: Wednesday, February 01, 2012 10:22 AM
To: 'David Mangoubi' <dmangoub at aol.com>; nwu-sports at tssi.com <nwu-sports at tssi.com>
Subject: Re: [NU Sports] Kids of NFL guys....

Ahh, but that was not always true. Alan even talked about it here before Trai Essex broke
the jinx even though he was not technically "active" for the Super game.

By my calculations, 4 Cats have "Festivus" rings -
The Steelers won in 2006 with a former Wildcat on their roster, although Trai Essex was
actually inactive for the game, which starts the argument about whether you have to be
active for the "curse" to officially be broken. Meanwhile, Matt Ulrich was active in 2007
for Indianapolis' win over Chicago. Barry Cofield played for the 2008 Giants, winners over
New England, Essex won again in 2009, and Zach Streif played in theSaint's win over Indy
in 2010

Anyway, here is a link to my story that originally ran on Purple Reign (now Purple
Wildcats)- I've copied it to my Blog.

http://coachroy.org/2012/02/01/it-used-to-be-the-curse-of-the-wildcats---nu-in-the-superbo
wl.aspx

rsl




+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
Opinions expressed above are mine alone and are not
those of any organizations of which I am a member.
+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
Roy S. Lamberton - Senior Associate.
Computer Applications & Support Associates
Coach Roy's Random Thoughts - http://coachroy.org
--------------------- Also ----------------------
"Commissioner" Delaware American Legion Baseball
Director Media Relations - Little League
  Senior League Softball World Series
CTR2 USN (67-70) - CTRCS USNR (Ret) (64-67/70-95)
Northwestern University - Speech 1974 -
Chi Phi: Pi 1974, KD 1968
Publisher Emeritus: Purple Reign (Fox Sports)
=================================================
There is nothing wrong with America that the faith,
love of freedom, intelligence and energy of her citizens
cannot cure - Dwight D. Eisenhower
=  =  =  =  =  =  =  =  =  =  =  =  =  =  =  =  =
If we become a country in which we say, 'Please,
tell me how to live,' We're Doomed!"
                   -- Pete Hamill, "Prohibition"
===========  Go Cats -  Beat 'em All  ===========



-----Original Message-----
From: nwu-sports-bounces at tssi.com [mailto:nwu-sports-bounces at tssi.com] On Behalf Of David
Mangoubi
Sent: Wednesday, February 01, 2012 9:36 AM
To: nwu-sports at tssi.com
Subject: Re: [NU Sports] Kids of NFL guys....


 Most recently Trai Essex got a ring with the Steelers so Northwestern is not a curse at
winning Super Bowl championships.


Any other Cats with Super Bowl rings?






-----Original Message-----
From: Roy S. Lamberton <rstetson at capps-assoc.com>
To: nwu-sports <nwu-sports at tssi.com>
Sent: Wed, Feb 1, 2012 8:24 am
Subject: [NU Sports] Kids of NFL guys....


It seems that we're starting to get more than our share of "sons of NFL Players"
now.

Dwight White's father was a major NFL star, but it seems that we've had several other kids
whose father was a pro player.

Wonder if anyone has worked that one up - I'll beg off, I already did the research on the
"Wildcat Jinx" (which appears to be back this year - no Cats in the Superbowl, I
think)

rsl

+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
Opinions expressed above are mine alone and are not those of any organizations of which I
am a member.
+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
Roy S. Lamberton - Senior Associate.
Computer Applications & Support Associates Coach Roy's Random Thoughts -
http://coachroy.org
--------------------- Also ---------------------- "Commissioner" Delaware American Legion
Baseball Director Media Relations - Little League
  Senior League Softball World Series
CTR2 USN (67-70) - CTRCS USNR (Ret) (64-67/70-95) Northwestern University - Speech 1974 -
Chi Phi: Pi 1974, KD 1968 Publisher Emeritus: Purple Reign (Fox Sports)
=================================================
There is nothing wrong with America that the faith, love of freedom, intelligence and
energy of her citizens cannot cure - Dwight D. Eisenhower =  =  =  =  =  =  =  =  =  =  =
=  =  =  =  =  = If we become a country in which we say, 'Please, tell me how to live,'
We're Doomed!"
                   -- Pete Hamill, "Prohibition"
===========  Go Cats -  Beat 'em All  ===========




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From nolan at tssi.com  Wed Feb  1 13:14:33 2012
From: nolan at tssi.com (Mike Nolan)
Date: Wed, 1 Feb 2012 13:14:33 -0600 (CST)
Subject: [NU Sports] 6 guys named Jones
In-Reply-To: <909684792-1328105354-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-798993398-@b5.c19.bise6.blackberry>
Message-ID: <20120201191433.7423F655FE@romaine.tssi.com>

Ever wonder what the play-by-play would sound like for the annual baseball
game at the John Smith society picnic?

  Two men on, nobody out, Smith at first, Smith at Second.  Smith gets his sign from 
  Smith and is ready to pitch, Smith digs in at the plate.  Here's the pitch, and Smith 
  hits a smash to Smith at third, who steps on the base, relays the ball to Smith at 
  second who tosses it to Smith at first--triple play!
--
Mike Nolan


From whosonfirst81 at yahoo.com  Wed Feb  1 13:22:35 2012
From: whosonfirst81 at yahoo.com (Ben Adler)
Date: Wed, 1 Feb 2012 11:22:35 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [NU Sports] 6 guys named Jones
In-Reply-To: <20120201191433.7423F655FE@romaine.tssi.com>
References: <909684792-1328105354-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-798993398-@b5.c19.bise6.blackberry>
 <20120201191433.7423F655FE@romaine.tssi.com>
Message-ID: <1328124155.68554.YahooMailNeo@web164519.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>

Where are Abbott and Costello when you need them?



________________________________
From: Mike Nolan <nolan at tssi.com>
To: neonrye at aol.com 
Cc: "'nwu-sports at tssi.com'" <nwu-sports at tssi.com>; nwu-sports-bounces at tssi.com 
Sent: Wednesday, February 1, 2012 11:14 AM
Subject: Re: [NU Sports] 6 guys named Jones

Ever wonder what the play-by-play would sound like for the annual baseball
game at the John Smith society picnic?

? Two men on, nobody out, Smith at first, Smith at Second.? Smith gets his sign from 
? Smith and is ready to pitch, Smith digs in at the plate.? Here's the pitch, and Smith 
? hits a smash to Smith at third, who steps on the base, relays the ball to Smith at 
? second who tosses it to Smith at first--triple play!
--
Mike Nolan

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From rstetson at capps-assoc.com  Wed Feb  1 13:30:53 2012
From: rstetson at capps-assoc.com (Roy S. Lamberton)
Date: Wed, 1 Feb 2012 14:30:53 -0500
Subject: [NU Sports] 6 guys named Jones
In-Reply-To: <1328124155.68554.YahooMailNeo@web164519.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>
References: <909684792-1328105354-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-798993398-@b5.c19.bise6.blackberry>
 <20120201191433.7423F655FE@romaine.tssi.com>
 <1328124155.68554.YahooMailNeo@web164519.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <003901cce118$03daaff0$0b900fd0$@com>

When I was at NU, the Waa-Mu show had a "who's on first" bit based on band names.

I know that in the skit, The Who was on first, and every time the one guy went down the
list, the band Yes came up.

As I recall, it wasn't all that funny since not everyone knew all the bands alluded to in
the sketch.

But a triple reverse involving the Jones Boys is a definite possibility since one is an RB
and two are WR's. They could even do a triple reverse with a pass at the end.

As a matter of fact, that would be a pretty good play.

rsl

+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
Opinions expressed above are mine alone and are not
those of any organizations of which I am a member.
+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
Roy S. Lamberton - Senior Associate.
Computer Applications & Support Associates
Coach Roy's Random Thoughts - http://coachroy.org
--------------------- Also ----------------------
"Commissioner" Delaware American Legion Baseball
Director Media Relations - Little League 
  Senior League Softball World Series
CTR2 USN (67-70) - CTRCS USNR (Ret) (64-67/70-95)
Northwestern University - Speech 1974 - 
Chi Phi: Pi 1974, KD 1968
Publisher Emeritus: Purple Reign (Fox Sports)
=================================================
There is nothing wrong with America that the faith, 
love of freedom, intelligence and energy of her citizens 
cannot cure - Dwight D. Eisenhower
=  =  =  =  =  =  =  =  =  =  =  =  =  =  =  =  =
If we become a country in which we say, 'Please, 
tell me how to live,' We're Doomed!"
                   -- Pete Hamill, "Prohibition"
===========  Go Cats -? Beat 'em All  ===========


-----Original Message-----
From: nwu-sports-bounces at tssi.com [mailto:nwu-sports-bounces at tssi.com] On Behalf Of Ben
Adler
Sent: Wednesday, February 01, 2012 2:23 PM
To: 'nwu-sports at tssi.com'
Subject: Re: [NU Sports] 6 guys named Jones

Where are Abbott and Costello when you need them?



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Sent: Wednesday, February 1, 2012 11:14 AM
Subject: Re: [NU Sports] 6 guys named Jones

Ever wonder what the play-by-play would sound like for the annual baseball game at the
John Smith society picnic?

? Two men on, nobody out, Smith at first, Smith at Second.? Smith gets his sign from
? Smith and is ready to pitch, Smith digs in at the plate.? Here's the pitch, and Smith
? hits a smash to Smith at third, who steps on the base, relays the ball to Smith at
? second who tosses it to Smith at first--triple play!
--
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From pcw at warnerpatents.com  Wed Feb  1 13:31:24 2012
From: pcw at warnerpatents.com (Peter C. Warner)
Date: Wed, 1 Feb 2012 12:31:24 -0700
Subject: [NU Sports] 6 guys named Jones
In-Reply-To: <1328124155.68554.YahooMailNeo@web164519.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>
References: <909684792-1328105354-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-798993398-@b5.c19.bise6.blackberry>
 <20120201191433.7423F655FE@romaine.tssi.com>
 <1328124155.68554.YahooMailNeo@web164519.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <002201cce118$15c887f0$415997d0$@warnerpatents.com>

Coaching Northwestern basketball.

-----Original Message-----
From: nwu-sports-bounces at tssi.com [mailto:nwu-sports-bounces at tssi.com] On
Behalf Of Ben Adler
Sent: Wednesday, February 01, 2012 12:23 PM
To: 'nwu-sports at tssi.com'
Subject: Re: [NU Sports] 6 guys named Jones

Where are Abbott and Costello when you need them?



________________________________
From: Mike Nolan <nolan at tssi.com>
To: neonrye at aol.com
Cc: "'nwu-sports at tssi.com'" <nwu-sports at tssi.com>;
nwu-sports-bounces at tssi.com
Sent: Wednesday, February 1, 2012 11:14 AM
Subject: Re: [NU Sports] 6 guys named Jones

Ever wonder what the play-by-play would sound like for the annual baseball
game at the John Smith society picnic?

? Two men on, nobody out, Smith at first, Smith at Second.? Smith gets his
sign from
? Smith and is ready to pitch, Smith digs in at the plate.? Here's the
pitch, and Smith
? hits a smash to Smith at third, who steps on the base, relays the ball to
Smith at
? second who tosses it to Smith at first--triple play!
--
Mike Nolan

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From neonrye at aol.com  Wed Feb  1 14:02:21 2012
From: neonrye at aol.com (neonrye at aol.com)
Date: Wed, 1 Feb 2012 15:02:21 -0500 (EST)
Subject: [NU Sports] 6 guys named Jones
In-Reply-To: <002201cce118$15c887f0$415997d0$@warnerpatents.com>
References: <909684792-1328105354-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-798993398-@b5.c19.bise6.blackberry><20120201191433.7423F655FE@romaine.tssi.com><1328124155.68554.YahooMailNeo@web164519.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>
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If one were going to be even less charitable, one could say that it's not Abbott and Costello on the bench for NU Hoops, but "The Three Stooges", but I am not going there......

Paul Levinson



-----Original Message-----
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To: nwu-sports <nwu-sports at tssi.com>
Sent: Wed, Feb 1, 2012 2:33 pm
Subject: Re: [NU Sports] 6 guys named Jones


Coaching Northwestern basketball.
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rom: nwu-sports-bounces at tssi.com [mailto:nwu-sports-bounces at tssi.com] On
ehalf Of Ben Adler
ent: Wednesday, February 01, 2012 12:23 PM
o: 'nwu-sports at tssi.com'
ubject: Re: [NU Sports] 6 guys named Jones
Where are Abbott and Costello when you need them?

________________________________
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o: neonrye at aol.com
c: "'nwu-sports at tssi.com'" <nwu-sports at tssi.com>;
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ent: Wednesday, February 1, 2012 11:14 AM
ubject: Re: [NU Sports] 6 guys named Jones
Ever wonder what the play-by-play would sound like for the annual baseball
ame at the John Smith society picnic?
  Two men on, nobody out, Smith at first, Smith at Second.  Smith gets his
ign from
 Smith and is ready to pitch, Smith digs in at the plate.  Here's the
itch, and Smith
 hits a smash to Smith at third, who steps on the base, relays the ball to
mith at
 second who tosses it to Smith at first--triple play!
-
ike Nolan
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From Willie.Weinbaum at espn.com  Wed Feb  1 14:42:47 2012
From: Willie.Weinbaum at espn.com (Weinbaum, Willie)
Date: Wed, 1 Feb 2012 15:42:47 -0500
Subject: [NU Sports] 6 guys named Jones
In-Reply-To: <8CEAF338B383899-18C0-5F98@webmail-d101.sysops.aol.com>
Message-ID: <1F89BB2CE7A5B94D969618E8CC769CC301468CAD50@XCHGBRS4.corp.espn.pvt>

Carmody isn't comedy.

----- Original Message -----
From: neonrye at aol.com [mailto:neonrye at aol.com]
Sent: Wednesday, February 01, 2012 03:02 PM
To: pcw at warnerpatents.com <pcw at warnerpatents.com>; nwu-sports at tssi.com <nwu-sports at tssi.com>
Subject: Re: [NU Sports] 6 guys named Jones


If one were going to be even less charitable, one could say that it's not Abbott and Costello on the bench for NU Hoops, but "The Three Stooges", but I am not going there......

Paul Levinson



-----Original Message-----
From: Peter C. Warner <pcw at warnerpatents.com>
To: nwu-sports <nwu-sports at tssi.com>
Sent: Wed, Feb 1, 2012 2:33 pm
Subject: Re: [NU Sports] 6 guys named Jones


Coaching Northwestern basketball.
-----Original Message-----
rom: nwu-sports-bounces at tssi.com [mailto:nwu-sports-bounces at tssi.com] On
ehalf Of Ben Adler
ent: Wednesday, February 01, 2012 12:23 PM
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ubject: Re: [NU Sports] 6 guys named Jones
Where are Abbott and Costello when you need them?

________________________________
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ent: Wednesday, February 1, 2012 11:14 AM
ubject: Re: [NU Sports] 6 guys named Jones
Ever wonder what the play-by-play would sound like for the annual baseball
ame at the John Smith society picnic?
  Two men on, nobody out, Smith at first, Smith at Second.  Smith gets his
ign from
 Smith and is ready to pitch, Smith digs in at the plate.  Here's the
itch, and Smith
 hits a smash to Smith at third, who steps on the base, relays the ball to
mith at
 second who tosses it to Smith at first--triple play!
-
ike Nolan
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From neonrye at aol.com  Wed Feb  1 14:52:18 2012
From: neonrye at aol.com (neonrye at aol.com)
Date: Wed, 1 Feb 2012 20:52:18 +0000
Subject: [NU Sports] 6 guys named Jones
In-Reply-To: <1F89BB2CE7A5B94D969618E8CC769CC301468CAD50@XCHGBRS4.corp.espn.pvt>
References: <8CEAF338B383899-18C0-5F98@webmail-d101.sysops.aol.com>
 <1F89BB2CE7A5B94D969618E8CC769CC301468CAD50@XCHGBRS4.corp.espn.pvt>
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Maybe not, but our inability to cloae out games hurts so much that if I cont laugh, I'll end up cryin'.
Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry

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Sender: nwu-sports-bounces at tssi.com
Date: Wed, 1 Feb 2012 15:42:47 
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Subject: Re: [NU Sports] 6 guys named Jones

Carmody isn't comedy.

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To: pcw at warnerpatents.com <pcw at warnerpatents.com>; nwu-sports at tssi.com <nwu-sports at tssi.com>
Subject: Re: [NU Sports] 6 guys named Jones


If one were going to be even less charitable, one could say that it's not Abbott and Costello on the bench for NU Hoops, but "The Three Stooges", but I am not going there......

Paul Levinson



-----Original Message-----
From: Peter C. Warner <pcw at warnerpatents.com>
To: nwu-sports <nwu-sports at tssi.com>
Sent: Wed, Feb 1, 2012 2:33 pm
Subject: Re: [NU Sports] 6 guys named Jones


Coaching Northwestern basketball.
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rom: nwu-sports-bounces at tssi.com [mailto:nwu-sports-bounces at tssi.com] On
ehalf Of Ben Adler
ent: Wednesday, February 01, 2012 12:23 PM
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ubject: Re: [NU Sports] 6 guys named Jones
Where are Abbott and Costello when you need them?

________________________________
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ent: Wednesday, February 1, 2012 11:14 AM
ubject: Re: [NU Sports] 6 guys named Jones
Ever wonder what the play-by-play would sound like for the annual baseball
ame at the John Smith society picnic?
  Two men on, nobody out, Smith at first, Smith at Second.  Smith gets his
ign from
 Smith and is ready to pitch, Smith digs in at the plate.  Here's the
itch, and Smith
 hits a smash to Smith at third, who steps on the base, relays the ball to
mith at
 second who tosses it to Smith at first--triple play!
-
ike Nolan
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From MHRJGScott at aol.com  Wed Feb  1 15:47:15 2012
From: MHRJGScott at aol.com (MHRJGScott at aol.com)
Date: Wed, 1 Feb 2012 16:47:15 -0500 (EST)
Subject: [NU Sports] signing day
Message-ID: <df67.22728c98.3c5b0ce3@aol.com>

According to the run down on LTP it looks like we got some nice big quality 
 guys on both sides of the ball, any thoughts?

From tbng at comcast.net  Wed Feb  1 16:03:40 2012
From: tbng at comcast.net (Dennis W. Brandt)
Date: Wed, 1 Feb 2012 17:03:40 -0500
Subject: [NU Sports] From 1954
Message-ID: <9D5CFA28262D4585B7FBA1103531BB7E@dennismachine>

With all due apologies to the Mills Brothers


The whole town's talkin' about the Jones boy[s]
The Jones boy[s], the Jones boy[s].
The whole town's talkin' about the Jones boy[s]
[They] act mighty [athletically] now."

[They] hop, [they] jump so merrily over defensive humps
[They] stop and then
[They] come to a hump and they'll jump again.
The buzz is over the fences
That Cat fans are out of their senses.

The whole town's talkin' about the Jones boy[s]
The [big] boys, the Jones boys.
But the Cats just happen to have the Jones boy[s]
And fans happen to be in love.

From tbng at comcast.net  Wed Feb  1 16:15:59 2012
From: tbng at comcast.net (Dennis W. Brandt)
Date: Wed, 1 Feb 2012 17:15:59 -0500
Subject: [NU Sports] signing day
References: <df67.22728c98.3c5b0ce3@aol.com>
Message-ID: <FAB23B75D6424517B87716BDA3C168B1@dennismachine>

> According to the run down on LTP it looks like we got some nice big 
> quality
> guys on both sides of the ball, any thoughts?

There are ten two-stars on the list, one one-star, and only one four-star 
(according to ESPN).  I'd be happier to see some more four-star recruits or 
at least much deeper with three-stars.  At least we can count Kyle Prater as 
our five-star guy. 


From tbng at comcast.net  Wed Feb  1 16:28:56 2012
From: tbng at comcast.net (Dennis W. Brandt)
Date: Wed, 1 Feb 2012 17:28:56 -0500
Subject: [NU Sports] Where is Dwight White
Message-ID: <143DE95CD01F4213A009286D7C263A87@dennismachine>

I didn't see him among the list of recruits on ESPN.  Hadn't he accepted last summer?  Did he sign today?

From tkmaycock at yahoo.com  Wed Feb  1 16:35:41 2012
From: tkmaycock at yahoo.com (Tom Maycock)
Date: Wed, 1 Feb 2012 14:35:41 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [NU Sports] Where is Dwight White
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Yes, Dwight White signed today.


Tom



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From tkmaycock at yahoo.com  Wed Feb  1 16:46:52 2012
From: tkmaycock at yahoo.com (Tom Maycock)
Date: Wed, 1 Feb 2012 14:46:52 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [NU Sports] signing day
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> According to the run down on LTP it looks like we got some nice big quality?

> guys on both sides of the ball, any thoughts?


Yep, from what I've read, it's probably our best recruiting class in a long time. Lots of very talented guys, the average quality is high, and there's a lot of 'em. Seems to fit the needs pretty well too. And if Prater winds up being eligible this year, it could be quite the collection of talent.?

The again, I'm in the "highly skeptical of recruit ratings, particularly for NU players" camp. And Fitz reiterated today that he's not a big fan of recruit ratings.?

Nonetheless, it sure looks like a good class. And getting a good class "on paper" probably helps recruiting efforts down the line.?

Tom



From rstetson at capps-assoc.com  Wed Feb  1 16:51:31 2012
From: rstetson at capps-assoc.com (Roy S. Lamberton)
Date: Wed, 1 Feb 2012 17:51:31 -0500
Subject: [NU Sports] Dwiight White Jr.
Message-ID: <000001cce134$0b467e60$21d37b20$@com>

Is not the son of the Dwight White who played for the Steelers,

His father, however, played football for Prarieview A & M a team that used to play the
other Dwight White's team East Texas State.

We do have a son of an NFL'er however, Malin Jones.

Still wonder how many Father-Son Football recruits we've had at NU.

rsl

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From rstetson at capps-assoc.com  Wed Feb  1 16:54:24 2012
From: rstetson at capps-assoc.com (Roy S. Lamberton)
Date: Wed, 1 Feb 2012 17:54:24 -0500
Subject: [NU Sports] No QB in the class....
Message-ID: <000101cce134$721a58a0$564f09e0$@com>

Which is "different."

However, Stephen Buckley, projected as an RB, was North Forney's QB for the last 2 years,
and knows a little bit about running from the QB position - rushed for 1352 yards last
year.

rsl

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From Willie.Weinbaum at espn.com  Wed Feb  1 17:07:08 2012
From: Willie.Weinbaum at espn.com (Weinbaum, Willie)
Date: Wed, 1 Feb 2012 18:07:08 -0500
Subject: [NU Sports] Dwiight White Jr.
In-Reply-To: <000001cce134$0b467e60$21d37b20$@com>
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The one that comes to mind immediately is the legendary Ron Burton, a College Football Hall of Famer from NU who was the first draft pick in the history of the Patriots.   All four of his sons played football for the Cats.   Ron was one of the finest people I've ever met and a real credit to Northwestern.  Here's a link to a 2006 piece in Northwestern Magazine about Ron's legacy (good story to read as Ron's Pats prepare for the Super Bowl :)):

http://www.northwestern.edu/magazine/spring2006//features/burton.html


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Sent: Wednesday, February 01, 2012 5:52 PM
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Subject: [NU Sports] Dwiight White Jr.

Is not the son of the Dwight White who played for the Steelers,

His father, however, played football for Prarieview A & M a team that used to play the other Dwight White's team East Texas State.

We do have a son of an NFL'er however, Malin Jones.

Still wonder how many Father-Son Football recruits we've had at NU.

rsl

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From rstetson at capps-assoc.com  Thu Feb  2 07:08:57 2012
From: rstetson at capps-assoc.com (Roy S. Lamberton)
Date: Thu, 2 Feb 2012 08:08:57 -0500
Subject: [NU Sports] This is Fitz' kind of guy....
Message-ID: <000001cce1ab$d3d34f80$7b79ee80$@com>

>From Teddy Greenstein's signing day story:
http://www.chicagotribune.com/sports/college/ct-spt-0202-northwestern-football--20120202,0
,1494607.story


'Even though NU's defense could use his pass rush, he's a strong candidate to be
redshirted for two reasons ? he has played just three seasons of football, and he's more
than open to it.

"It will be the coaches' decision, but the way I look at it is: If I'm not going to start,
I'd want to redshirt," Odenigbo told the Tribune. "I don't really care for rotating. I'm
sort of greedy and want to be 'the man.' If I do redshirt, maybe I can get an M.B.A. from
Kellogg."'

Somebody did a good job raising this kid.

rsl

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===========  Go Cats -? Beat 'em All  ===========




From rstetson at capps-assoc.com  Thu Feb  2 07:12:46 2012
From: rstetson at capps-assoc.com (Roy S. Lamberton)
Date: Thu, 2 Feb 2012 08:12:46 -0500
Subject: [NU Sports] New coach Meyer reels in top-5 class at Ohio State
Message-ID: <000101cce1ac$5bd85330$1388f990$@com>

Some things never change - dOSU gets some top switches.
http://www.chicagotribune.com/sports/college/chi-meyer-reels-in-top5-class-at-ohio-state-2
0120201,0,1443795.story



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From rstetson at capps-assoc.com  Thu Feb  2 18:11:41 2012
From: rstetson at capps-assoc.com (Roy S. Lamberton)
Date: Thu, 2 Feb 2012 19:11:41 -0500
Subject: [NU Sports] Let's see if the Cats
Message-ID: <000001cce208$68fc9060$3af5b120$@com>

Can finally beat a "red" team on the court

rsl

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From Willie.Weinbaum at espn.com  Thu Feb  2 18:46:12 2012
From: Willie.Weinbaum at espn.com (Weinbaum, Willie)
Date: Thu, 2 Feb 2012 19:46:12 -0500
Subject: [NU Sports] Cats' first half tonight
Message-ID: <1F89BB2CE7A5B94D969618E8CC769CC301468CAD9C@XCHGBRS4.corp.espn.pvt>

Playing good 1-3-1 vs a struggling team (that looked a lot like the Cats have lately)...keeping turnovers down (just two) and hitting TEN three-pointers...

11 assists for NU...

And a gift three-shot foul to end the half, with Sobolewski hitting all three.  Shurna and Crawford shooting well and Sobolewski hot after cold start.

Much-needed!  41-26 Cats at the half.

From rstetson at capps-assoc.com  Thu Feb  2 19:45:38 2012
From: rstetson at capps-assoc.com (Roy S. Lamberton)
Date: Thu, 2 Feb 2012 20:45:38 -0500
Subject: [NU Sports] Finally, Points off the Bench
Message-ID: <000901cce215$8900bfa0$9b023ee0$@com>

Curletti is one of 2 subs and only one with points



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cannot cure - Dwight D. Eisenhower
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tell me how to live,' We're Doomed!"
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From Willie.Weinbaum at espn.com  Thu Feb  2 20:01:36 2012
From: Willie.Weinbaum at espn.com (Weinbaum, Willie)
Date: Thu, 2 Feb 2012 21:01:36 -0500
Subject: [NU Sports] Shurna leads the way
Message-ID: <1F89BB2CE7A5B94D969618E8CC769CC301468CADA1@XCHGBRS4.corp.espn.pvt>

Second half:

The suddenly hot-shooting Huskers, aided by a sloppy and misfiring NU offense and porous defense, cut the lead to one point.  This looked like it could be a last-straw for the Cats collapse. Then Shurna & Crawford shined, and Sobolewski provided an important spark, Hearn hit a trey and the Cats were back up by double digits.  
Then Nebraska pressed and the Cats got frazzled, committing repeated turnovers...and Nebraska made this one again seem like a potential epic disintegration.  But the Cats kept hitting free throws, Shurna was solid (28 points and excellent defense, to go with a 20+ night for Crawford) and the team held off the Huskers.  

This was far from a masterpiece - - far too many times were the Huskers able to get easy shots in the second half, especially on drives to the hoop.  And the Cats' failure to come to help Sobolewski against the press was agony to watch.

But the Cats actually exceeded the Vegas expectations (the spread was a touchdown).  So whether it's football or basketball, the Huskers have gotten a rude welcome from the Cats.

Hope's alive. :)

From rstetson at capps-assoc.com  Thu Feb  2 21:33:42 2012
From: rstetson at capps-assoc.com (Roy S. Lamberton)
Date: Thu, 2 Feb 2012 22:33:42 -0500
Subject: [NU Sports] Shurna leads the way
In-Reply-To: <1F89BB2CE7A5B94D969618E8CC769CC301468CADA1@XCHGBRS4.corp.espn.pvt>
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You don't suppose that Sobo is working his way out of the Frosh Slump? He seemed very much
in control tonight, he only had that one lapse late in the game that led to a TO.

But the older guys stepped it up, and pulled away.

And the game was on ESPN2 around here....

rsl

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--------------------- Also ----------------------
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Director Media Relations - Little League 
  Senior League Softball World Series
CTR2 USN (67-70) - CTRCS USNR (Ret) (64-67/70-95)
Northwestern University - Speech 1974 - 
Chi Phi: Pi 1974, KD 1968
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cannot cure - Dwight D. Eisenhower
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If we become a country in which we say, 'Please, 
tell me how to live,' We're Doomed!"
                   -- Pete Hamill, "Prohibition"
===========  Go Cats -? Beat 'em All  ===========



-----Original Message-----
From: nwu-sports-bounces at tssi.com [mailto:nwu-sports-bounces at tssi.com] On Behalf Of
Weinbaum, Willie
Sent: Thursday, February 02, 2012 9:02 PM
To: 'nwu-sports at tssi.com'
Subject: [NU Sports] Shurna leads the way

Second half:

The suddenly hot-shooting Huskers, aided by a sloppy and misfiring NU offense and porous
defense, cut the lead to one point.  This looked like it could be a last-straw for the
Cats collapse. Then Shurna & Crawford shined, and Sobolewski provided an important spark,
Hearn hit a trey and the Cats were back up by double digits.  
Then Nebraska pressed and the Cats got frazzled, committing repeated turnovers...and
Nebraska made this one again seem like a potential epic disintegration.  But the Cats kept
hitting free throws, Shurna was solid (28 points and excellent defense, to go with a 20+
night for Crawford) and the team held off the Huskers.  

This was far from a masterpiece - - far too many times were the Huskers able to get easy
shots in the second half, especially on drives to the hoop.  And the Cats' failure to come
to help Sobolewski against the press was agony to watch.

But the Cats actually exceeded the Vegas expectations (the spread was a touchdown).  So
whether it's football or basketball, the Huskers have gotten a rude welcome from the Cats.

Hope's alive. :)
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From sportsbiz at gmail.com  Fri Feb  3 07:11:49 2012
From: sportsbiz at gmail.com (Mark Ament)
Date: Fri, 3 Feb 2012 08:11:49 -0500
Subject: [NU Sports] Chris Fitzpatrick
Message-ID: <61DAC719-4461-4BA7-90C4-9218B06C8EFD@gmail.com>

Our new long snapper appears to be a good one.  The Courier Journal reports that he is rated a five star by something called Rubio Long Snapping, which, while I've never heard of it, sounds impressive. More impressive perhaps, or maybe just an indication of Fitz's desperate feelings about the position, only six long snappers received scholarships so far in this class.

http://www.courier-journal.com/article/20120202/SPORTS11/302020080/Moore-High-School-Mekale-McKay?odyssey=tab|topnews|text|Sports

Mark

 Mark S. Ament
sportsbiz at gmail.com


From Jeff.Beamsley at covisint.com  Fri Feb  3 07:51:50 2012
From: Jeff.Beamsley at covisint.com (Beamsley, Jeff)
Date: Fri, 3 Feb 2012 08:51:50 -0500
Subject: [NU Sports] Shurna leads the way
In-Reply-To: <001301cce224$a27c31d0$e7749570$@com>
References: <1F89BB2CE7A5B94D969618E8CC769CC301468CADA1@XCHGBRS4.corp.espn.pvt>
 <001301cce224$a27c31d0$e7749570$@com>
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It was a good workmanlike game.  It is the sort of win that improving teams should have at home.

The big stats that jumped out at me. 

Almost 83% from the FT line for 24 points.  UNL shot FT well too, but they only got 7 points there.  

Even though it was a little shaky at the end, won the turn-over battle 9-14 and the steal battle 10-6.

They did dare us to beat them from the three point line, and we did shoot very well from there particularly in the first half, but ultimately the game was won at the FT line and the net 9 possessions we took away from them through turnovers and steals.

Hopefully having the experience of overcoming UNL's late run is a turning point for this team and they can finish strong.

Jeff

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Sent: Thursday, February 02, 2012 10:34 PM
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You don't suppose that Sobo is working his way out of the Frosh Slump? He seemed very much
in control tonight, he only had that one lapse late in the game that led to a TO.

But the older guys stepped it up, and pulled away.

And the game was on ESPN2 around here....

rsl

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--------------------- Also ----------------------
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Director Media Relations - Little League 
  Senior League Softball World Series
CTR2 USN (67-70) - CTRCS USNR (Ret) (64-67/70-95)
Northwestern University - Speech 1974 - 
Chi Phi: Pi 1974, KD 1968
Publisher Emeritus: Purple Reign (Fox Sports)
=================================================
There is nothing wrong with America that the faith, 
love of freedom, intelligence and energy of her citizens 
cannot cure - Dwight D. Eisenhower
=  =  =  =  =  =  =  =  =  =  =  =  =  =  =  =  =
If we become a country in which we say, 'Please, 
tell me how to live,' We're Doomed!"
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===========  Go Cats -? Beat 'em All  ===========



-----Original Message-----
From: nwu-sports-bounces at tssi.com [mailto:nwu-sports-bounces at tssi.com] On Behalf Of
Weinbaum, Willie
Sent: Thursday, February 02, 2012 9:02 PM
To: 'nwu-sports at tssi.com'
Subject: [NU Sports] Shurna leads the way

Second half:

The suddenly hot-shooting Huskers, aided by a sloppy and misfiring NU offense and porous
defense, cut the lead to one point.  This looked like it could be a last-straw for the
Cats collapse. Then Shurna & Crawford shined, and Sobolewski provided an important spark,
Hearn hit a trey and the Cats were back up by double digits.  
Then Nebraska pressed and the Cats got frazzled, committing repeated turnovers...and
Nebraska made this one again seem like a potential epic disintegration.  But the Cats kept
hitting free throws, Shurna was solid (28 points and excellent defense, to go with a 20+
night for Crawford) and the team held off the Huskers.  

This was far from a masterpiece - - far too many times were the Huskers able to get easy
shots in the second half, especially on drives to the hoop.  And the Cats' failure to come
to help Sobolewski against the press was agony to watch.

But the Cats actually exceeded the Vegas expectations (the spread was a touchdown).  So
whether it's football or basketball, the Huskers have gotten a rude welcome from the Cats.

Hope's alive. :)
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From rstetson at capps-assoc.com  Fri Feb  3 08:15:27 2012
From: rstetson at capps-assoc.com (Roy S. Lamberton)
Date: Fri, 3 Feb 2012 09:15:27 -0500
Subject: [NU Sports] Bielema Calls Out Meyer on Recruiting Tactics
Message-ID: <001d01cce27e$480d7560$d8286020$@com>

>From the Trib:
http://www.chicagotribune.com/sports/college/chi-bielema-calls-out-meyer-on-illegal-recrui
ting-tactics-20120202,0,3093232.story

Which could explain why dOSU changed coaches and still had a top 5 class grabbing 4
players from State Penn.

But what is great is that none of these rumors and complaints ever seem to involve NU.

Refreshing, now let the kids play.

rsl



+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
Opinions expressed above are mine alone and are not
those of any organizations of which I am a member.
+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
Roy S. Lamberton - Senior Associate.
Computer Applications & Support Associates
Coach Roy's Random Thoughts - http://coachroy.org
--------------------- Also ----------------------
"Commissioner" Delaware American Legion Baseball
Director Media Relations - Little League 
  Senior League Softball World Series
CTR2 USN (67-70) - CTRCS USNR (Ret) (64-67/70-95)
Northwestern University - Speech 1974 - 
Chi Phi: Pi 1974, KD 1968
Publisher Emeritus: Purple Reign (Fox Sports)
=================================================
There is nothing wrong with America that the faith, 
love of freedom, intelligence and energy of her citizens 
cannot cure - Dwight D. Eisenhower
=  =  =  =  =  =  =  =  =  =  =  =  =  =  =  =  =
If we become a country in which we say, 'Please, 
tell me how to live,' We're Doomed!"
                   -- Pete Hamill, "Prohibition"
===========  Go Cats -? Beat 'em All  ===========





From Jeff.Beamsley at covisint.com  Fri Feb  3 09:21:03 2012
From: Jeff.Beamsley at covisint.com (Beamsley, Jeff)
Date: Fri, 3 Feb 2012 10:21:03 -0500
Subject: [NU Sports] Bielema Calls Out Meyer on Recruiting Tactics
In-Reply-To: <001d01cce27e$480d7560$d8286020$@com>
References: <001d01cce27e$480d7560$d8286020$@com>
Message-ID: <37BBE4FEDCA6A1479A65BA8A020B14BC3339BA@nasa-dtw-ex006.nasa.cpwr.corp>

Good to see Bielema calling UM out about poaching.

Based on the reports that I've read, UM actively recruits kids who have already given verbal commits to other schools.  While this is a common practice in some leagues, and certainly legal under NCAA rules, the unwritten rule in the BT is that you don't poach from BT other schools.  Apparently nobody told UM.  

So how did UM assemble his great recruiting class in just a little over two months on the job?  He stole one from MSU, one from Wisky, four from PSU, and two from other schools outside the BT.  

These tactics pretty much transformed the SEC into an NCAA recruiting violations cesspool.  

If this year's recruiting class is any indication, the BT may also become much more competitive between schools.

It is tough to argue with the results because the SEC does out recruit every other conference for top athletes, but at what cost?

Jeff  






-----Original Message-----
From: nwu-sports-bounces at tssi.com [mailto:nwu-sports-bounces at tssi.com] On Behalf Of Roy S. Lamberton
Sent: Friday, February 03, 2012 9:15 AM
To: nwu-sports at tssi.com
Subject: [NU Sports] Bielema Calls Out Meyer on Recruiting Tactics

>From the Trib:
http://www.chicagotribune.com/sports/college/chi-bielema-calls-out-meyer-on-illegal-recrui
ting-tactics-20120202,0,3093232.story

Which could explain why dOSU changed coaches and still had a top 5 class grabbing 4
players from State Penn.

But what is great is that none of these rumors and complaints ever seem to involve NU.

Refreshing, now let the kids play.

rsl



+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
Opinions expressed above are mine alone and are not
those of any organizations of which I am a member.
+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
Roy S. Lamberton - Senior Associate.
Computer Applications & Support Associates
Coach Roy's Random Thoughts - http://coachroy.org
--------------------- Also ----------------------
"Commissioner" Delaware American Legion Baseball
Director Media Relations - Little League 
  Senior League Softball World Series
CTR2 USN (67-70) - CTRCS USNR (Ret) (64-67/70-95)
Northwestern University - Speech 1974 - 
Chi Phi: Pi 1974, KD 1968
Publisher Emeritus: Purple Reign (Fox Sports)
=================================================
There is nothing wrong with America that the faith, 
love of freedom, intelligence and energy of her citizens 
cannot cure - Dwight D. Eisenhower
=  =  =  =  =  =  =  =  =  =  =  =  =  =  =  =  =
If we become a country in which we say, 'Please, 
tell me how to live,' We're Doomed!"
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From eschoeman at sbcglobal.net  Fri Feb  3 09:33:55 2012
From: eschoeman at sbcglobal.net (Evans Schoeman)
Date: Fri, 3 Feb 2012 07:33:55 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [NU Sports] Bielema Calls Out Meyer on Recruiting Tactics
In-Reply-To: <37BBE4FEDCA6A1479A65BA8A020B14BC3339BA@nasa-dtw-ex006.nasa.cpwr.corp>
References: <001d01cce27e$480d7560$d8286020$@com>
 <37BBE4FEDCA6A1479A65BA8A020B14BC3339BA@nasa-dtw-ex006.nasa.cpwr.corp>
Message-ID: <1328283235.26108.YahooMailRC@web83908.mail.sp1.yahoo.com>

Very interesting.? If you read the reader comments to the original article in 
"The Sproting News", almost all call Bielema a whiner (he is) and strongly 
defend Meyer's recruiting practices.? The SEC mentality obviously considers 
those kind of "gentlemen's agreements" for "sissies", and tOSU is fertile ground 
for those SEC practices.

Reportedly, Alvarez will bring this issue up at the B1G AD's meeting today.? It 
will be interesting to see what develops.




________________________________
From: "Beamsley, Jeff" <Jeff.Beamsley at covisint.com>
To: Roy S. Lamberton <rstetson at capps-assoc.com>; nwu-sports at tssi.com
Sent: Fri, February 3, 2012 9:21:03 AM
Subject: Re: [NU Sports] Bielema Calls Out Meyer on Recruiting Tactics

Good to see Bielema calling UM out about poaching.

Based on the reports that I've read, UM actively recruits kids who have already 
given verbal commits to other schools.? While this is a common practice in some 
leagues, and certainly legal under NCAA rules, the unwritten rule in the BT is 
that you don't poach from BT other schools.? Apparently nobody told UM.? 


So how did UM assemble his great recruiting class in just a little over two 
months on the job?? He stole one from MSU, one from Wisky, four from PSU, and 
two from other schools outside the BT.? 


These tactics pretty much transformed the SEC into an NCAA recruiting violations 
cesspool.? 


If this year's recruiting class is any indication, the BT may also become much 
more competitive between schools.

It is tough to argue with the results because the SEC does out recruit every 
other conference for top athletes, but at what cost?

Jeff? 






-----Original Message-----
From: nwu-sports-bounces at tssi.com [mailto:nwu-sports-bounces at tssi.com] On Behalf 
Of Roy S. Lamberton
Sent: Friday, February 03, 2012 9:15 AM
To: nwu-sports at tssi.com
Subject: [NU Sports] Bielema Calls Out Meyer on Recruiting Tactics

From the Trib:
http://www.chicagotribune.com/sports/college/chi-bielema-calls-out-meyer-on-illegal-recrui

ting-tactics-20120202,0,3093232.story

Which could explain why dOSU changed coaches and still had a top 5 class 
grabbing 4
players from State Penn.

But what is great is that none of these rumors and complaints ever seem to 
involve NU.

Refreshing, now let the kids play.

rsl



+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
Opinions expressed above are mine alone and are not
those of any organizations of which I am a member.
+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
Roy S. Lamberton - Senior Associate.
Computer Applications & Support Associates
Coach Roy's Random Thoughts - http://coachroy.org
--------------------- Also ----------------------
"Commissioner" Delaware American Legion Baseball
Director Media Relations - Little League 
? Senior League Softball World Series
CTR2 USN (67-70) - CTRCS USNR (Ret) (64-67/70-95)
Northwestern University - Speech 1974 - 
Chi Phi: Pi 1974, KD 1968
Publisher Emeritus: Purple Reign (Fox Sports)
=================================================
There is nothing wrong with America that the faith, 
love of freedom, intelligence and energy of her citizens 
cannot cure - Dwight D. Eisenhower
=? =? =? =? =? =? =? =? =? =? =? =? =? =? =? =? =
If we become a country in which we say, 'Please, 
tell me how to live,' We're Doomed!"
? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? -- Pete Hamill, "Prohibition"
===========? Go Cats -? Beat 'em All? ===========




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From rstetson at capps-assoc.com  Fri Feb  3 09:48:51 2012
From: rstetson at capps-assoc.com (Roy S. Lamberton)
Date: Fri, 3 Feb 2012 10:48:51 -0500
Subject: [NU Sports] Bielema Calls Out Meyer on Recruiting Tactics
In-Reply-To: <37BBE4FEDCA6A1479A65BA8A020B14BC3339BA@nasa-dtw-ex006.nasa.cpwr.corp>
References: <001d01cce27e$480d7560$d8286020$@com>
 <37BBE4FEDCA6A1479A65BA8A020B14BC3339BA@nasa-dtw-ex006.nasa.cpwr.corp>
Message-ID: <003301cce28b$54911eb0$fdb35c10$@com>

The next few years are going to be interesting, with dOSU's coach Urban Meyer being
abbreviated "UM" and a long time member of the Big 10 also wearing that digraph.

For a second, I thought someone had Urban's school wrong...until I linked up his full
name.

Points out that you really have to read e-mails before you respond....

rsl

+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
Opinions expressed above are mine alone and are not
those of any organizations of which I am a member.
+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
Roy S. Lamberton - Senior Associate.
Computer Applications & Support Associates
Coach Roy's Random Thoughts - http://coachroy.org
--------------------- Also ----------------------
"Commissioner" Delaware American Legion Baseball
Director Media Relations - Little League 
  Senior League Softball World Series
CTR2 USN (67-70) - CTRCS USNR (Ret) (64-67/70-95)
Northwestern University - Speech 1974 - 
Chi Phi: Pi 1974, KD 1968
Publisher Emeritus: Purple Reign (Fox Sports)
=================================================
There is nothing wrong with America that the faith, 
love of freedom, intelligence and energy of her citizens 
cannot cure - Dwight D. Eisenhower
=  =  =  =  =  =  =  =  =  =  =  =  =  =  =  =  =
If we become a country in which we say, 'Please, 
tell me how to live,' We're Doomed!"
                   -- Pete Hamill, "Prohibition"
===========  Go Cats -? Beat 'em All  ===========



-----Original Message-----
From: Beamsley, Jeff [mailto:Jeff.Beamsley at covisint.com] 
Sent: Friday, February 03, 2012 10:21 AM
To: Roy S. Lamberton; nwu-sports at tssi.com
Subject: RE: [NU Sports] Bielema Calls Out Meyer on Recruiting Tactics

Good to see Bielema calling UM out about poaching.

Based on the reports that I've read, UM actively recruits kids who have already given
verbal commits to other schools.  While this is a common practice in some leagues, and
certainly legal under NCAA rules, the unwritten rule in the BT is that you don't poach
from BT other schools.  Apparently nobody told UM.  

So how did UM assemble his great recruiting class in just a little over two months on the
job?  He stole one from MSU, one from Wisky, four from PSU, and two from other schools
outside the BT.  

These tactics pretty much transformed the SEC into an NCAA recruiting violations cesspool.


If this year's recruiting class is any indication, the BT may also become much more
competitive between schools.

It is tough to argue with the results because the SEC does out recruit every other
conference for top athletes, but at what cost?

Jeff  






-----Original Message-----
From: nwu-sports-bounces at tssi.com [mailto:nwu-sports-bounces at tssi.com] On Behalf Of Roy S.
Lamberton
Sent: Friday, February 03, 2012 9:15 AM
To: nwu-sports at tssi.com
Subject: [NU Sports] Bielema Calls Out Meyer on Recruiting Tactics

>From the Trib:
http://www.chicagotribune.com/sports/college/chi-bielema-calls-out-meyer-on-illegal-recrui
ting-tactics-20120202,0,3093232.story

Which could explain why dOSU changed coaches and still had a top 5 class grabbing 4
players from State Penn.

But what is great is that none of these rumors and complaints ever seem to involve NU.

Refreshing, now let the kids play.

rsl



+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
Opinions expressed above are mine alone and are not those of any organizations of which I
am a member.
+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
Roy S. Lamberton - Senior Associate.
Computer Applications & Support Associates Coach Roy's Random Thoughts -
http://coachroy.org
--------------------- Also ---------------------- "Commissioner" Delaware American Legion
Baseball Director Media Relations - Little League
  Senior League Softball World Series
CTR2 USN (67-70) - CTRCS USNR (Ret) (64-67/70-95) Northwestern University - Speech 1974 -
Chi Phi: Pi 1974, KD 1968 Publisher Emeritus: Purple Reign (Fox Sports)
=================================================
There is nothing wrong with America that the faith, love of freedom, intelligence and
energy of her citizens cannot cure - Dwight D. Eisenhower =  =  =  =  =  =  =  =  =  =  =
=  =  =  =  =  = If we become a country in which we say, 'Please, tell me how to live,'
We're Doomed!"
                   -- Pete Hamill, "Prohibition"
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From hakirsch at aol.com  Fri Feb  3 10:28:10 2012
From: hakirsch at aol.com (hakirsch at aol.com)
Date: Fri, 3 Feb 2012 16:28:10 +0000
Subject: [NU Sports] Bielema Calls Out Meyer on Recruiting Tactics
In-Reply-To: <37BBE4FEDCA6A1479A65BA8A020B14BC3339BA@nasa-dtw-ex006.nasa.cpwr.corp>
References: <001d01cce27e$480d7560$d8286020$@com>
 <37BBE4FEDCA6A1479A65BA8A020B14BC3339BA@nasa-dtw-ex006.nasa.cpwr.corp>
Message-ID: <422999913-1328286491-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-872382752-@b11.c7.bise6.blackberry>

As Yogi Berra might have said" The problem with unwritten rules is that nobody writes them down"

Harry
Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry

-----Original Message-----
From: "Beamsley, Jeff" <Jeff.Beamsley at covisint.com>
Sender: nwu-sports-bounces at tssi.com
Date: Fri, 3 Feb 2012 10:21:03 
To: Roy S. Lamberton<rstetson at capps-assoc.com>; <nwu-sports at tssi.com>
Subject: Re: [NU Sports] Bielema Calls Out Meyer on Recruiting Tactics

Good to see Bielema calling UM out about poaching.

Based on the reports that I've read, UM actively recruits kids who have already given verbal commits to other schools.  While this is a common practice in some leagues, and certainly legal under NCAA rules, the unwritten rule in the BT is that you don't poach from BT other schools.  Apparently nobody told UM.  

So how did UM assemble his great recruiting class in just a little over two months on the job?  He stole one from MSU, one from Wisky, four from PSU, and two from other schools outside the BT.  

These tactics pretty much transformed the SEC into an NCAA recruiting violations cesspool.  

If this year's recruiting class is any indication, the BT may also become much more competitive between schools.

It is tough to argue with the results because the SEC does out recruit every other conference for top athletes, but at what cost?

Jeff  






-----Original Message-----
From: nwu-sports-bounces at tssi.com [mailto:nwu-sports-bounces at tssi.com] On Behalf Of Roy S. Lamberton
Sent: Friday, February 03, 2012 9:15 AM
To: nwu-sports at tssi.com
Subject: [NU Sports] Bielema Calls Out Meyer on Recruiting Tactics

From the Trib:
http://www.chicagotribune.com/sports/college/chi-bielema-calls-out-meyer-on-illegal-recrui
ting-tactics-20120202,0,3093232.story

Which could explain why dOSU changed coaches and still had a top 5 class grabbing 4
players from State Penn.

But what is great is that none of these rumors and complaints ever seem to involve NU.

Refreshing, now let the kids play.

rsl



+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
Opinions expressed above are mine alone and are not
those of any organizations of which I am a member.
+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
Roy S. Lamberton - Senior Associate.
Computer Applications & Support Associates
Coach Roy's Random Thoughts - http://coachroy.org
--------------------- Also ----------------------
"Commissioner" Delaware American Legion Baseball
Director Media Relations - Little League 
  Senior League Softball World Series
CTR2 USN (67-70) - CTRCS USNR (Ret) (64-67/70-95)
Northwestern University - Speech 1974 - 
Chi Phi: Pi 1974, KD 1968
Publisher Emeritus: Purple Reign (Fox Sports)
=================================================
There is nothing wrong with America that the faith, 
love of freedom, intelligence and energy of her citizens 
cannot cure - Dwight D. Eisenhower
=  =  =  =  =  =  =  =  =  =  =  =  =  =  =  =  =
If we become a country in which we say, 'Please, 
tell me how to live,' We're Doomed!"
                   -- Pete Hamill, "Prohibition"
===========  Go Cats -? Beat 'em All  ===========




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From sjtruog at yahoo.com  Fri Feb  3 20:36:09 2012
From: sjtruog at yahoo.com (SjT (Stephen J. Truog))
Date: Fri, 3 Feb 2012 18:36:09 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [NU Sports] Bielema Calls Out Meyer on Recruiting Tactics
In-Reply-To: <422999913-1328286491-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-872382752-@b11.c7.bise6.blackberry>
References: <001d01cce27e$480d7560$d8286020$@com>
 <37BBE4FEDCA6A1479A65BA8A020B14BC3339BA@nasa-dtw-ex006.nasa.cpwr.corp>
 <422999913-1328286491-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-872382752-@b11.c7.bise6.blackberry>
Message-ID: <1328322969.44645.YahooMailNeo@web121702.mail.ne1.yahoo.com>

Wow ... this is a tough one. On one hand, you have the Smug Smirk of Cheddarland whining (and given his benefitting last year from a redshirt transfer, I dunno if he should throw too many stones) ... and on the other hand, you have St. Urban of Sanctimonious Pomposity helping dOSU truly reach their potential of becoming an "SEC school in Big Ten clothing."

No sympathy for either of those guys ... the interesting person to watch is Papa Barry -- who could use his AD clout to throw down some rules in the Big Ten to make sure this doesn't spread.

Should add some spice to the UW/OSU rivalry - one of the more underrated ones of the past two decades with some big-time games between the two.

BTW, I tend to look at OSU's recruiting class as a "Lemming" -- the same way that every single Notre Dame class was ranked top 5 by the recruiting guru, so will any Urban Meyer class. So I'm not sure at this point that the class is as good as advertised or if they didn't just get a 10% markup for the coach's name.

How many days until spring football?

GO CATS!!!
-SjT
?
* * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *
STEPHEN J. TRUOG
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________________________________
 From: "hakirsch at aol.com" <hakirsch at aol.com>
To: "Beamsley, Jeff" <Jeff.Beamsley at covisint.com>; nwu-sports-bounces at tssi.com; Roy S. Lamberton <rstetson at capps-assoc.com>; nwu-sports at tssi.com 
Sent: Friday, February 3, 2012 9:28 AM
Subject: Re: [NU Sports] Bielema Calls Out Meyer on Recruiting Tactics
 
As Yogi Berra might have said" The problem with unwritten rules is that nobody writes them down"

Harry
Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry

-----Original Message-----
From: "Beamsley, Jeff" <Jeff.Beamsley at covisint.com>
Sender: nwu-sports-bounces at tssi.com
Date: Fri, 3 Feb 2012 10:21:03 
To: Roy S. Lamberton<rstetson at capps-assoc.com>; <nwu-sports at tssi.com>
Subject: Re: [NU Sports] Bielema Calls Out Meyer on Recruiting Tactics

Good to see Bielema calling UM out about poaching.

Based on the reports that I've read, UM actively recruits kids who have already given verbal commits to other schools.? While this is a common practice in some leagues, and certainly legal under NCAA rules, the unwritten rule in the BT is that you don't poach from BT other schools.? Apparently nobody told UM.? 

So how did UM assemble his great recruiting class in just a little over two months on the job?? He stole one from MSU, one from Wisky, four from PSU, and two from other schools outside the BT.? 

These tactics pretty much transformed the SEC into an NCAA recruiting violations cesspool.? 

If this year's recruiting class is any indication, the BT may also become much more competitive between schools.

It is tough to argue with the results because the SEC does out recruit every other conference for top athletes, but at what cost?

Jeff? 






-----Original Message-----
From: nwu-sports-bounces at tssi.com [mailto:nwu-sports-bounces at tssi.com] On Behalf Of Roy S. Lamberton
Sent: Friday, February 03, 2012 9:15 AM
To: nwu-sports at tssi.com
Subject: [NU Sports] Bielema Calls Out Meyer on Recruiting Tactics

From the Trib:
http://www.chicagotribune.com/sports/college/chi-bielema-calls-out-meyer-on-illegal-recrui
ting-tactics-20120202,0,3093232.story

Which could explain why dOSU changed coaches and still had a top 5 class grabbing 4
players from State Penn.

But what is great is that none of these rumors and complaints ever seem to involve NU.

Refreshing, now let the kids play.

rsl



+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
Opinions expressed above are mine alone and are not
those of any organizations of which I am a member.
+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
Roy S. Lamberton - Senior Associate.
Computer Applications & Support Associates
Coach Roy's Random Thoughts - http://coachroy.org
--------------------- Also ----------------------
"Commissioner" Delaware American Legion Baseball
Director Media Relations - Little League 
? Senior League Softball World Series
CTR2 USN (67-70) - CTRCS USNR (Ret) (64-67/70-95)
Northwestern University - Speech 1974 - 
Chi Phi: Pi 1974, KD 1968
Publisher Emeritus: Purple Reign (Fox Sports)
=================================================
There is nothing wrong with America that the faith, 
love of freedom, intelligence and energy of her citizens 
cannot cure - Dwight D. Eisenhower
=? =? =? =? =? =? =? =? =? =? =? =? =? =? =? =? =
If we become a country in which we say, 'Please, 
tell me how to live,' We're Doomed!"
? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?  -- Pete Hamill, "Prohibition"
===========? Go Cats -? Beat 'em All? ===========




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From hakirsch at aol.com  Fri Feb  3 20:41:44 2012
From: hakirsch at aol.com (hakirsch at aol.com)
Date: Sat, 4 Feb 2012 02:41:44 +0000
Subject: [NU Sports] Bielema Calls Out Meyer on Recruiting Tactics
In-Reply-To: <1328322969.44645.YahooMailNeo@web121702.mail.ne1.yahoo.com>
References: <001d01cce27e$480d7560$d8286020$@com>
 <37BBE4FEDCA6A1479A65BA8A020B14BC3339BA@nasa-dtw-ex006.nasa.cpwr.corp>
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ESPN had a follow up stating the coaches (through Pat Fitz as the spokesperson) do not have an unwritten agreement not to poach,but will "respect " each other 

Harry
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From: "SjT \(Stephen J. Truog\)" <sjtruog at yahoo.com>
Date: Fri, 3 Feb 2012 18:36:09 
To: hakirsch at aol.com<hakirsch at aol.com>; Beamsley, Jeff<Jeff.Beamsley at covisint.com>; nwu-sports-bounces at tssi.com<nwu-sports-bounces at tssi.com>; Roy S. Lamberton<rstetson at capps-assoc.com>; nwu-sports at tssi.com<nwu-sports at tssi.com>
Reply-To: "SjT \(Stephen J. Truog\)" <sjtruog at yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: [NU Sports] Bielema Calls Out Meyer on Recruiting Tactics

Wow ... this is a tough one. On one hand, you have the Smug Smirk of Cheddarland whining (and given his benefitting last year from a redshirt transfer, I dunno if he should throw too many stones) ... and on the other hand, you have St. Urban of Sanctimonious Pomposity helping dOSU truly reach their potential of becoming an "SEC school in Big Ten clothing."

No sympathy for either of those guys ... the interesting person to watch is Papa Barry -- who could use his AD clout to throw down some rules in the Big Ten to make sure this doesn't spread.

Should add some spice to the UW/OSU rivalry - one of the more underrated ones of the past two decades with some big-time games between the two.

BTW, I tend to look at OSU's recruiting class as a "Lemming" -- the same way that every single Notre Dame class was ranked top 5 by the recruiting guru, so will any Urban Meyer class. So I'm not sure at this point that the class is as good as advertised or if they didn't just get a 10% markup for the coach's name.

How many days until spring football?

GO CATS!!!
-SjT
?
* * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *
STEPHEN J. TRUOG
sjtruog at yahoo.com
GO CATS!!! GEAUX SAINTS!!!
Super Bowl XLIV Champions!
________________________________



________________________________
 From: "hakirsch at aol.com" <hakirsch at aol.com>
To: "Beamsley, Jeff" <Jeff.Beamsley at covisint.com>; nwu-sports-bounces at tssi.com; Roy S. Lamberton <rstetson at capps-assoc.com>; nwu-sports at tssi.com 
Sent: Friday, February 3, 2012 9:28 AM
Subject: Re: [NU Sports] Bielema Calls Out Meyer on Recruiting Tactics
 
As Yogi Berra might have said" The problem with unwritten rules is that nobody writes them down"

Harry
Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry

-----Original Message-----
From: "Beamsley, Jeff" <Jeff.Beamsley at covisint.com>
Sender: nwu-sports-bounces at tssi.com
Date: Fri, 3 Feb 2012 10:21:03 
To: Roy S. Lamberton<rstetson at capps-assoc.com>; <nwu-sports at tssi.com>
Subject: Re: [NU Sports] Bielema Calls Out Meyer on Recruiting Tactics

Good to see Bielema calling UM out about poaching.

Based on the reports that I've read, UM actively recruits kids who have already given verbal commits to other schools.? While this is a common practice in some leagues, and certainly legal under NCAA rules, the unwritten rule in the BT is that you don't poach from BT other schools.? Apparently nobody told UM.? 

So how did UM assemble his great recruiting class in just a little over two months on the job?? He stole one from MSU, one from Wisky, four from PSU, and two from other schools outside the BT.? 

These tactics pretty much transformed the SEC into an NCAA recruiting violations cesspool.? 

If this year's recruiting class is any indication, the BT may also become much more competitive between schools.

It is tough to argue with the results because the SEC does out recruit every other conference for top athletes, but at what cost?

Jeff? 






-----Original Message-----
From: nwu-sports-bounces at tssi.com [mailto:nwu-sports-bounces at tssi.com] On Behalf Of Roy S. Lamberton
Sent: Friday, February 03, 2012 9:15 AM
To: nwu-sports at tssi.com
Subject: [NU Sports] Bielema Calls Out Meyer on Recruiting Tactics

From the Trib:
http://www.chicagotribune.com/sports/college/chi-bielema-calls-out-meyer-on-illegal-recrui
ting-tactics-20120202,0,3093232.story

Which could explain why dOSU changed coaches and still had a top 5 class grabbing 4
players from State Penn.

But what is great is that none of these rumors and complaints ever seem to involve NU.

Refreshing, now let the kids play.

rsl



+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
Opinions expressed above are mine alone and are not
those of any organizations of which I am a member.
+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
Roy S. Lamberton - Senior Associate.
Computer Applications & Support Associates
Coach Roy's Random Thoughts - http://coachroy.org
--------------------- Also ----------------------
"Commissioner" Delaware American Legion Baseball
Director Media Relations - Little League 
? Senior League Softball World Series
CTR2 USN (67-70) - CTRCS USNR (Ret) (64-67/70-95)
Northwestern University - Speech 1974 - 
Chi Phi: Pi 1974, KD 1968
Publisher Emeritus: Purple Reign (Fox Sports)
=================================================
There is nothing wrong with America that the faith, 
love of freedom, intelligence and energy of her citizens 
cannot cure - Dwight D. Eisenhower
=? =? =? =? =? =? =? =? =? =? =? =? =? =? =? =? =
If we become a country in which we say, 'Please, 
tell me how to live,' We're Doomed!"
? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?  -- Pete Hamill, "Prohibition"
===========? Go Cats -? Beat 'em All? ===========




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From eschoeman at sbcglobal.net  Fri Feb  3 20:50:13 2012
From: eschoeman at sbcglobal.net (Evans Schoeman)
Date: Fri, 3 Feb 2012 18:50:13 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [NU Sports] Bielema Calls Out Meyer on Recruiting Tactics
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References: <001d01cce27e$480d7560$d8286020$@com>
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Surprisingly, Alvarez didn't seem to go along with this view, saying, "It's open 
season until they sign".

Unfortunately, some of the coaches will continue to respect each other, while 
others will play as close to the line as they are allowed.? Will be interesting 
to see who falls on which side.

http://content.usatoday.com/communities/campusrivalry/post/2012/02/ohio-state-response-urban-meyer-big-ten-coaches-recruiting/1





________________________________
From: "hakirsch at aol.com" <hakirsch at aol.com>
To: SjT (Stephen J. Truog) <sjtruog at yahoo.com>; "Beamsley, Jeff" 
<Jeff.Beamsley at covisint.com>; "nwu-sports-bounces at tssi.com" 
<nwu-sports-bounces at tssi.com>; Roy S. Lamberton <rstetson at capps-assoc.com>; 
"nwu-sports at tssi.com" <nwu-sports at tssi.com>
Sent: Fri, February 3, 2012 8:41:44 PM
Subject: Re: [NU Sports] Bielema Calls Out Meyer on Recruiting Tactics

ESPN had a follow up stating the coaches (through Pat Fitz as the spokesperson) 
do not have an unwritten agreement not to poach,but will "respect " each other 


Harry
Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry

-----Original Message-----
From: "SjT \(Stephen J. Truog\)" <sjtruog at yahoo.com>
Date: Fri, 3 Feb 2012 18:36:09 
To: hakirsch at aol.com<hakirsch at aol.com>; Beamsley, 
Jeff<Jeff.Beamsley at covisint.com>; 
nwu-sports-bounces at tssi.com<nwu-sports-bounces at tssi.com>; Roy S. 
Lamberton<rstetson at capps-assoc.com>; nwu-sports at tssi.com<nwu-sports at tssi.com>
Reply-To: "SjT \(Stephen J. Truog\)" <sjtruog at yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: [NU Sports] Bielema Calls Out Meyer on Recruiting Tactics

Wow ... this is a tough one. On one hand, you have the Smug Smirk of Cheddarland 
whining (and given his benefitting last year from a redshirt transfer, I dunno 
if he should throw too many stones) ... and on the other hand, you have St. 
Urban of Sanctimonious Pomposity helping dOSU truly reach their potential of 
becoming an "SEC school in Big Ten clothing."

No sympathy for either of those guys ... the interesting person to watch is Papa 
Barry -- who could use his AD clout to throw down some rules in the Big Ten to 
make sure this doesn't spread.

Should add some spice to the UW/OSU rivalry - one of the more underrated ones of 
the past two decades with some big-time games between the two.

BTW, I tend to look at OSU's recruiting class as a "Lemming" -- the same way 
that every single Notre Dame class was ranked top 5 by the recruiting guru, so 
will any Urban Meyer class. So I'm not sure at this point that the class is as 
good as advertised or if they didn't just get a 10% markup for the coach's name.

How many days until spring football?

GO CATS!!!
-SjT
?
* * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *
STEPHEN J. TRUOG
sjtruog at yahoo.com
GO CATS!!! GEAUX SAINTS!!!
Super Bowl XLIV Champions!
________________________________



________________________________
From: "hakirsch at aol.com" <hakirsch at aol.com>
To: "Beamsley, Jeff" <Jeff.Beamsley at covisint.com>; nwu-sports-bounces at tssi.com; 
Roy S. Lamberton <rstetson at capps-assoc.com>; nwu-sports at tssi.com 

Sent: Friday, February 3, 2012 9:28 AM
Subject: Re: [NU Sports] Bielema Calls Out Meyer on Recruiting Tactics

As Yogi Berra might have said" The problem with unwritten rules is that nobody 
writes them down"

Harry
Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry

-----Original Message-----
From: "Beamsley, Jeff" <Jeff.Beamsley at covisint.com>
Sender: nwu-sports-bounces at tssi.com
Date: Fri, 3 Feb 2012 10:21:03 
To: Roy S. Lamberton<rstetson at capps-assoc.com>; <nwu-sports at tssi.com>
Subject: Re: [NU Sports] Bielema Calls Out Meyer on Recruiting Tactics

Good to see Bielema calling UM out about poaching.

Based on the reports that I've read, UM actively recruits kids who have already 
given verbal commits to other schools.? While this is a common practice in some 
leagues, and certainly legal under NCAA rules, the unwritten rule in the BT is 
that you don't poach from BT other schools.? Apparently nobody told UM.? 


So how did UM assemble his great recruiting class in just a little over two 
months on the job?? He stole one from MSU, one from Wisky, four from PSU, and 
two from other schools outside the BT.? 


These tactics pretty much transformed the SEC into an NCAA recruiting violations 
cesspool.? 


If this year's recruiting class is any indication, the BT may also become much 
more competitive between schools.

It is tough to argue with the results because the SEC does out recruit every 
other conference for top athletes, but at what cost?

Jeff? 






-----Original Message-----
From: nwu-sports-bounces at tssi.com [mailto:nwu-sports-bounces at tssi.com] On Behalf 
Of Roy S. Lamberton
Sent: Friday, February 03, 2012 9:15 AM
To: nwu-sports at tssi.com
Subject: [NU Sports] Bielema Calls Out Meyer on Recruiting Tactics

From the Trib:
http://www.chicagotribune.com/sports/college/chi-bielema-calls-out-meyer-on-illegal-recrui

ting-tactics-20120202,0,3093232.story

Which could explain why dOSU changed coaches and still had a top 5 class 
grabbing 4
players from State Penn.

But what is great is that none of these rumors and complaints ever seem to 
involve NU.

Refreshing, now let the kids play.

rsl



+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
Opinions expressed above are mine alone and are not
those of any organizations of which I am a member.
+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
Roy S. Lamberton - Senior Associate.
Computer Applications & Support Associates
Coach Roy's Random Thoughts - http://coachroy.org
--------------------- Also ----------------------
"Commissioner" Delaware American Legion Baseball
Director Media Relations - Little League 
? Senior League Softball World Series
CTR2 USN (67-70) - CTRCS USNR (Ret) (64-67/70-95)
Northwestern University - Speech 1974 - 
Chi Phi: Pi 1974, KD 1968
Publisher Emeritus: Purple Reign (Fox Sports)
=================================================
There is nothing wrong with America that the faith, 
love of freedom, intelligence and energy of her citizens 
cannot cure - Dwight D. Eisenhower
=? =? =? =? =? =? =? =? =? =? =? =? =? =? =? =? =
If we become a country in which we say, 'Please, 
tell me how to live,' We're Doomed!"
? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?? -- Pete Hamill, "Prohibition"
===========? Go Cats -? Beat 'em All? ===========




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From rstetson at capps-assoc.com  Fri Feb  3 22:46:29 2012
From: rstetson at capps-assoc.com (Roy S. Lamberton)
Date: Fri, 3 Feb 2012 23:46:29 -0500
Subject: [NU Sports] Bielema Calls Out Meyer on Recruiting Tactics
In-Reply-To: <653811805-1328323305-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-1109399297-@b11.c7.bise6.blackberry>
References: <001d01cce27e$480d7560$d8286020$@com>
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 <422999913-1328286491-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-872382752-@b11.c7.bise6.blackberry>
 <1328322969.44645.YahooMailNeo@web121702.mail.ne1.yahoo.com>
 <653811805-1328323305-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-1109399297-@b11.c7.bise6.blackberry>
Message-ID: <001701cce2f7$f71b4220$e551c660$@com>

There was an old Randy Walker story about some assistant who asked about trying to contact
some commit at another school who was rumored to be "reevaluating" and RW wouldn't let him
talk to the kid.

 

He also expected his commits to honor their commitments which was why you had to
personally commit to Walker.

 

Zook tried to swing some Chicago kids when he took over IL. That worked really well for
him as I remember.

 

Times have changed

 

+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

Opinions expressed above are mine alone and are not

those of any organizations of which I am a member.

+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

Roy S. Lamberton - Senior Associate.

Computer Applications & Support Associates

Coach Roy's Random Thoughts - http://coachroy.org

--------------------- Also ----------------------

"Commissioner" Delaware American Legion Baseball

Director Media Relations - Little League 

  Senior League Softball World Series

CTR2 USN (67-70) - CTRCS USNR (Ret) (64-67/70-95)

Northwestern University - Speech 1974 - 

Chi Phi: Pi 1974, KD 1968

Publisher Emeritus: Purple Reign (Fox Sports)

=================================================

There is nothing wrong with America that the faith, 

love of freedom, intelligence and energy of her citizens 

cannot cure - Dwight D. Eisenhower
<http://www.quotationspage.com/quotes/Dwight_D._Eisenhower/> 

=  =  =  =  =  =  =  =  =  =  =  =  =  =  =  =  =

If we become a country in which we say, 'Please, 

tell me how to live,' We're Doomed!"

                   -- Pete Hamill, "Prohibition"

===========  Go Cats -  Beat 'em All  ===========

 

 

From: hakirsch at aol.com [mailto:hakirsch at aol.com] 
Sent: Friday, February 03, 2012 9:42 PM
To: SjT (Stephen J. Truog); Beamsley, Jeff; nwu-sports-bounces at tssi.com; Roy S. Lamberton;
nwu-sports at tssi.com
Subject: Re: [NU Sports] Bielema Calls Out Meyer on Recruiting Tactics

 

ESPN had a follow up stating the coaches (through Pat Fitz as the spokesperson) do not
have an unwritten agreement not to poach,but will "respect " each other 

Harry

Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry

  _____  

From: "SjT \(Stephen J. Truog\)" <sjtruog at yahoo.com> 

Date: Fri, 3 Feb 2012 18:36:09 -0800 (PST)

To: hakirsch at aol.com <mailto:hakirsch at aol.com%3chakirsch at aol.com> <hakirsch at aol.com>;
Beamsley, Jeff<Jeff.Beamsley at covisint.com>; nwu-sports-bounces at tssi.com
<mailto:nwu-sports-bounces at tssi.com%3cnwu-sports-bounces at tssi.com>
<nwu-sports-bounces at tssi.com>; Roy S. Lamberton<rstetson at capps-assoc.com>;
nwu-sports at tssi.com <mailto:nwu-sports at tssi.com%3cnwu-sports at tssi.com>
<nwu-sports at tssi.com>

ReplyTo: "SjT \(Stephen J. Truog\)" <sjtruog at yahoo.com> 

Subject: Re: [NU Sports] Bielema Calls Out Meyer on Recruiting Tactics

 

Wow ... this is a tough one. On one hand, you have the Smug Smirk of Cheddarland whining
(and given his benefitting last year from a redshirt transfer, I dunno if he should throw
too many stones) ... and on the other hand, you have St. Urban of Sanctimonious Pomposity
helping dOSU truly reach their potential of becoming an "SEC school in Big Ten clothing."

 

No sympathy for either of those guys ... the interesting person to watch is Papa Barry --
who could use his AD clout to throw down some rules in the Big Ten to make sure this
doesn't spread.

 

Should add some spice to the UW/OSU rivalry - one of the more underrated ones of the past
two decades with some big-time games between the two.

 

BTW, I tend to look at OSU's recruiting class as a "Lemming" -- the same way that every
single Notre Dame class was ranked top 5 by the recruiting guru, so will any Urban Meyer
class. So I'm not sure at this point that the class is as good as advertised or if they
didn't just get a 10% markup for the coach's name.

 

How many days until spring football?

 

GO CATS!!!
-SjT

 

* * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *
STEPHEN J. TRUOG
sjtruog at yahoo.com
GO CATS!!! GEAUX SAINTS!!!
Super Bowl XLIV Champions!

  _____  

 

  _____  

From: "hakirsch at aol.com" <hakirsch at aol.com>
To: "Beamsley, Jeff" <Jeff.Beamsley at covisint.com>; nwu-sports-bounces at tssi.com; Roy S.
Lamberton <rstetson at capps-assoc.com>; nwu-sports at tssi.com 
Sent: Friday, February 3, 2012 9:28 AM
Subject: Re: [NU Sports] Bielema Calls Out Meyer on Recruiting Tactics


As Yogi Berra might have said" The problem with unwritten rules is that nobody writes them
down"

Harry
Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry

-----Original Message-----
From: "Beamsley, Jeff" <Jeff.Beamsley at covisint.com>
Sender: nwu-sports-bounces at tssi.com
Date: Fri, 3 Feb 2012 10:21:03 
To: Roy S. Lamberton<rstetson at capps-assoc.com>; <nwu-sports at tssi.com>
Subject: Re: [NU Sports] Bielema Calls Out Meyer on Recruiting Tactics

Good to see Bielema calling UM out about poaching.

Based on the reports that I've read, UM actively recruits kids who have already given
verbal commits to other schools.  While this is a common practice in some leagues, and
certainly legal under NCAA rules, the unwritten rule in the BT is that you don't poach
from BT other schools.  Apparently nobody told UM.  

So how did UM assemble his great recruiting class in just a little over two months on the
job?  He stole one from MSU, one from Wisky, four from PSU, and two from other schools
outside the BT.  

These tactics pretty much transformed the SEC into an NCAA recruiting violations cesspool.


If this year's recruiting class is any indication, the BT may also become much more
competitive between schools.

It is tough to argue with the results because the SEC does out recruit every other
conference for top athletes, but at what cost?

Jeff  






-----Original Message-----
From: nwu-sports-bounces at tssi.com [mailto:nwu-sports-bounces at tssi.com] On Behalf Of Roy S.
Lamberton
Sent: Friday, February 03, 2012 9:15 AM
To: nwu-sports at tssi.com
Subject: [NU Sports] Bielema Calls Out Meyer on Recruiting Tactics

>From the Trib:
http://www.chicagotribune.com/sports/college/chi-bielema-calls-out-meyer-on-illegal-recrui
ting-tactics-20120202,0,3093232.story

Which could explain why dOSU changed coaches and still had a top 5 class grabbing 4
players from State Penn.

But what is great is that none of these rumors and complaints ever seem to involve NU.

Refreshing, now let the kids play.

rsl



+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
Opinions expressed above are mine alone and are not
those of any organizations of which I am a member.
+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
Roy S. Lamberton - Senior Associate.
Computer Applications & Support Associates
Coach Roy's Random Thoughts - http://coachroy.org
--------------------- Also ----------------------
"Commissioner" Delaware American Legion Baseball
Director Media Relations - Little League 
  Senior League Softball World Series
CTR2 USN (67-70) - CTRCS USNR (Ret) (64-67/70-95)
Northwestern University - Speech 1974 - 
Chi Phi: Pi 1974, KD 1968
Publisher Emeritus: Purple Reign (Fox Sports)
=================================================
There is nothing wrong with America that the faith, 
love of freedom, intelligence and energy of her citizens 
cannot cure - Dwight D. Eisenhower
=  =  =  =  =  =  =  =  =  =  =  =  =  =  =  =  =
If we become a country in which we say, 'Please, 
tell me how to live,' We're Doomed!"
                  -- Pete Hamill, "Prohibition"
===========  Go Cats -  Beat 'em All  ===========




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From neonrye at aol.com  Sat Feb  4 07:03:40 2012
From: neonrye at aol.com (neonrye at aol.com)
Date: Sat, 4 Feb 2012 13:03:40 +0000
Subject: [NU Sports] Bielema Calls Out Meyer on Recruiting Tactics
In-Reply-To: <001701cce2f7$f71b4220$e551c660$@com>
References: <001d01cce27e$480d7560$d8286020$@com>
 <37BBE4FEDCA6A1479A65BA8A020B14BC3339BA@nasa-dtw-ex006.nasa.cpwr.corp>
 <422999913-1328286491-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-872382752-@b11.c7.bise6.blackberry>
 <1328322969.44645.YahooMailNeo@web121702.mail.ne1.yahoo.com>
 <653811805-1328323305-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-1109399297-@b11.c7.bise6.blackberry>
 <001701cce2f7$f71b4220$e551c660$@com>
Message-ID: <1751197621-1328360530-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-1179847487-@b5.c19.bise6.blackberry>

My late father--whom I have written about here--always taught me that "your word is your bond".  RW and Fitz assuredly learned the same lesson growing up from Papa Walker and Father Fitz.  Guess they skipped that lecture at Chez Meyer and Chez Zook.  They got the abridged version--SEC style--"your word is only as good as I can persuade you to take it back".

And remember Jim Harbaugh pulling back from Kain Colter once the throwing shoulder sustained injury.  Treachery goes both ways at the coaching level. 

 As we say among lawyers, "that oral contract isn't worth the paper it is printed on."

Paul Levinson
Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry

-----Original Message-----
From: "Roy S. Lamberton" <rstetson at capps-assoc.com>
Sender: nwu-sports-bounces at tssi.com
Date: Fri, 3 Feb 2012 23:46:29 
To: <hakirsch at aol.com>; 'SjT \(Stephen J. Truog\)'<sjtruog at yahoo.com>; 'Beamsley, Jeff'<Jeff.Beamsley at covisint.com>; <nwu-sports-bounces at tssi.com>; <nwu-sports at tssi.com>
Subject: Re: [NU Sports] Bielema Calls Out Meyer on Recruiting Tactics

There was an old Randy Walker story about some assistant who asked about trying to contact
some commit at another school who was rumored to be "reevaluating" and RW wouldn't let him
talk to the kid.

 

He also expected his commits to honor their commitments which was why you had to
personally commit to Walker.

 

Zook tried to swing some Chicago kids when he took over IL. That worked really well for
him as I remember.

 

Times have changed

 

+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

Opinions expressed above are mine alone and are not

those of any organizations of which I am a member.

+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

Roy S. Lamberton - Senior Associate.

Computer Applications & Support Associates

Coach Roy's Random Thoughts - http://coachroy.org

--------------------- Also ----------------------

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love of freedom, intelligence and energy of her citizens 

cannot cure - Dwight D. Eisenhower
<http://www.quotationspage.com/quotes/Dwight_D._Eisenhower/> 

=  =  =  =  =  =  =  =  =  =  =  =  =  =  =  =  =

If we become a country in which we say, 'Please, 

tell me how to live,' We're Doomed!"

                   -- Pete Hamill, "Prohibition"

===========  Go Cats -  Beat 'em All  ===========

 

 

From: hakirsch at aol.com [mailto:hakirsch at aol.com] 
Sent: Friday, February 03, 2012 9:42 PM
To: SjT (Stephen J. Truog); Beamsley, Jeff; nwu-sports-bounces at tssi.com; Roy S. Lamberton;
nwu-sports at tssi.com
Subject: Re: [NU Sports] Bielema Calls Out Meyer on Recruiting Tactics

 

ESPN had a follow up stating the coaches (through Pat Fitz as the spokesperson) do not
have an unwritten agreement not to poach,but will "respect " each other 

Harry

Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry

  _____  

From: "SjT \(Stephen J. Truog\)" <sjtruog at yahoo.com> 

Date: Fri, 3 Feb 2012 18:36:09 -0800 (PST)

To: hakirsch at aol.com <mailto:hakirsch at aol.com%3chakirsch at aol.com> <hakirsch at aol.com>;
Beamsley, Jeff<Jeff.Beamsley at covisint.com>; nwu-sports-bounces at tssi.com
<mailto:nwu-sports-bounces at tssi.com%3cnwu-sports-bounces at tssi.com>
<nwu-sports-bounces at tssi.com>; Roy S. Lamberton<rstetson at capps-assoc.com>;
nwu-sports at tssi.com <mailto:nwu-sports at tssi.com%3cnwu-sports at tssi.com>
<nwu-sports at tssi.com>

ReplyTo: "SjT \(Stephen J. Truog\)" <sjtruog at yahoo.com> 

Subject: Re: [NU Sports] Bielema Calls Out Meyer on Recruiting Tactics

 

Wow ... this is a tough one. On one hand, you have the Smug Smirk of Cheddarland whining
(and given his benefitting last year from a redshirt transfer, I dunno if he should throw
too many stones) ... and on the other hand, you have St. Urban of Sanctimonious Pomposity
helping dOSU truly reach their potential of becoming an "SEC school in Big Ten clothing."

 

No sympathy for either of those guys ... the interesting person to watch is Papa Barry --
who could use his AD clout to throw down some rules in the Big Ten to make sure this
doesn't spread.

 

Should add some spice to the UW/OSU rivalry - one of the more underrated ones of the past
two decades with some big-time games between the two.

 

BTW, I tend to look at OSU's recruiting class as a "Lemming" -- the same way that every
single Notre Dame class was ranked top 5 by the recruiting guru, so will any Urban Meyer
class. So I'm not sure at this point that the class is as good as advertised or if they
didn't just get a 10% markup for the coach's name.

 

How many days until spring football?

 

GO CATS!!!
-SjT

 

* * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *
STEPHEN J. TRUOG
sjtruog at yahoo.com
GO CATS!!! GEAUX SAINTS!!!
Super Bowl XLIV Champions!

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From: "hakirsch at aol.com" <hakirsch at aol.com>
To: "Beamsley, Jeff" <Jeff.Beamsley at covisint.com>; nwu-sports-bounces at tssi.com; Roy S.
Lamberton <rstetson at capps-assoc.com>; nwu-sports at tssi.com 
Sent: Friday, February 3, 2012 9:28 AM
Subject: Re: [NU Sports] Bielema Calls Out Meyer on Recruiting Tactics


As Yogi Berra might have said" The problem with unwritten rules is that nobody writes them
down"

Harry
Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry

-----Original Message-----
From: "Beamsley, Jeff" <Jeff.Beamsley at covisint.com>
Sender: nwu-sports-bounces at tssi.com
Date: Fri, 3 Feb 2012 10:21:03 
To: Roy S. Lamberton<rstetson at capps-assoc.com>; <nwu-sports at tssi.com>
Subject: Re: [NU Sports] Bielema Calls Out Meyer on Recruiting Tactics

Good to see Bielema calling UM out about poaching.

Based on the reports that I've read, UM actively recruits kids who have already given
verbal commits to other schools.  While this is a common practice in some leagues, and
certainly legal under NCAA rules, the unwritten rule in the BT is that you don't poach
from BT other schools.  Apparently nobody told UM.  

So how did UM assemble his great recruiting class in just a little over two months on the
job?  He stole one from MSU, one from Wisky, four from PSU, and two from other schools
outside the BT.  

These tactics pretty much transformed the SEC into an NCAA recruiting violations cesspool.


If this year's recruiting class is any indication, the BT may also become much more
competitive between schools.

It is tough to argue with the results because the SEC does out recruit every other
conference for top athletes, but at what cost?

Jeff  






-----Original Message-----
From: nwu-sports-bounces at tssi.com [mailto:nwu-sports-bounces at tssi.com] On Behalf Of Roy S.
Lamberton
Sent: Friday, February 03, 2012 9:15 AM
To: nwu-sports at tssi.com
Subject: [NU Sports] Bielema Calls Out Meyer on Recruiting Tactics

From the Trib:
http://www.chicagotribune.com/sports/college/chi-bielema-calls-out-meyer-on-illegal-recrui
ting-tactics-20120202,0,3093232.story

Which could explain why dOSU changed coaches and still had a top 5 class grabbing 4
players from State Penn.

But what is great is that none of these rumors and complaints ever seem to involve NU.

Refreshing, now let the kids play.

rsl



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--------------------- Also ----------------------
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Director Media Relations - Little League 
  Senior League Softball World Series
CTR2 USN (67-70) - CTRCS USNR (Ret) (64-67/70-95)
Northwestern University - Speech 1974 - 
Chi Phi: Pi 1974, KD 1968
Publisher Emeritus: Purple Reign (Fox Sports)
=================================================
There is nothing wrong with America that the faith, 
love of freedom, intelligence and energy of her citizens 
cannot cure - Dwight D. Eisenhower
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From Willie.Weinbaum at espn.com  Sun Feb  5 14:49:47 2012
From: Willie.Weinbaum at espn.com (Weinbaum, Willie)
Date: Sun, 5 Feb 2012 15:49:47 -0500
Subject: [NU Sports] Nice first half @ Champaign
Message-ID: <1F89BB2CE7A5B94D969618E8CC769CC301468CAE0F@XCHGBRS4.corp.espn.pvt>

Not going to say much except Reggie Hearn shot 6-6.  And Cats lead by 3.

Illini fans chant "Chicago hates purple."

Go Cats!

From alan.abrahamson at gmail.com  Sun Feb  5 16:06:29 2012
From: alan.abrahamson at gmail.com (Alan Abrahamson)
Date: Sun, 5 Feb 2012 14:06:29 -0800
Subject: [NU Sports] Cats win 74-70
Message-ID: <-936498216183409120@unknownmsgid>

Excellent second-half effort.

Sent from my iPhone


From Willie.Weinbaum at espn.com  Sun Feb  5 16:06:00 2012
From: Willie.Weinbaum at espn.com (Weinbaum, Willie)
Date: Sun, 5 Feb 2012 17:06:00 -0500
Subject: [NU Sports] Two words
Message-ID: <1F89BB2CE7A5B94D969618E8CC769CC301468CAE11@XCHGBRS4.corp.espn.pvt>

YEAH, BABY!

From nolan at tssi.com  Sun Feb  5 16:16:48 2012
From: nolan at tssi.com (Mike Nolan)
Date: Sun, 5 Feb 2012 16:16:48 -0600 (CST)
Subject: [NU Sports] Two words
In-Reply-To: <1F89BB2CE7A5B94D969618E8CC769CC301468CAE11@XCHGBRS4.corp.espn.pvt>
Message-ID: <20120205221648.6190C65607@romaine.tssi.com>

> YEAH, BABY!

And on the road, too!
--
Mike Nolan


From bondscoop at gmail.com  Sun Feb  5 16:19:18 2012
From: bondscoop at gmail.com (Michael Jackson)
Date: Sun, 5 Feb 2012 16:19:18 -0600
Subject: [NU Sports] Two words
In-Reply-To: <20120205221648.6190C65607@romaine.tssi.com>
References: <1F89BB2CE7A5B94D969618E8CC769CC301468CAE11@XCHGBRS4.corp.espn.pvt>
 <20120205221648.6190C65607@romaine.tssi.com>
Message-ID: <1cce01cce454$34fa5ab0$9eef1010$@gmail.com>

And a complete game on both ends of the court!


> YEAH, BABY!

And on the road, too!
--
Mike Nolan




From Jeff.Beamsley at covisint.com  Sun Feb  5 16:18:42 2012
From: Jeff.Beamsley at covisint.com (Beamsley, Jeff)
Date: Sun, 5 Feb 2012 17:18:42 -0500
Subject: [NU Sports] Two words
References: <20120205221648.6190C65607@romaine.tssi.com>
Message-ID: <37BBE4FEDCA6A1479A65BA8A020B14BC14499B@nasa-dtw-ex006.nasa.cpwr.corp>

Where has this team been?
 
Good game plan.
 
Great D.  
 
Shurna takes the game over at the end.
 
Everybody makes free throws during the last two minutes.
 
This team has finally learned how to win on the road.
 
Should be fun to watch the rest of the season.
 
Jeff

________________________________

From: nwu-sports-bounces at tssi.com on behalf of Mike Nolan
Sent: Sun 2/5/2012 5:16 PM
To: Weinbaum, Willie
Cc: 'nwu-sports at tssi.com'
Subject: Re: [NU Sports] Two words



> YEAH, BABY!

And on the road, too!
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From rstetson at capps-assoc.com  Sun Feb  5 16:22:10 2012
From: rstetson at capps-assoc.com (rstetson at capps-assoc.com)
Date: Sun, 5 Feb 2012 17:22:10 -0500
Subject: [NU Sports] Two words
In-Reply-To: <20120205221648.6190C65607@romaine.tssi.com>
References: <20120205221648.6190C65607@romaine.tssi.com>
Message-ID: <03a9e2b0-d415-442c-91bb-ac572de091be@blur>

One more: REVENGE!!!!!!

Sent from my Verizon Wireless Phone

-----Original message-----
From: nolan at tssi.com (Mike Nolan)
To: Willie.Weinbaum at espn.com (Weinbaum, Willie)
Cc: "'nwu-sports at tssi.com'" <nwu-sports at tssi.com>
Sent: Sun, Feb 5, 2012 22:16:48 GMT+00:00
Subject: Re: [NU Sports] Two words

> YEAH, BABY!

And on the road, too!
--
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From scottzel at gmail.com  Sun Feb  5 16:27:31 2012
From: scottzel at gmail.com (Scott Zeller, M.D.)
Date: Sun, 5 Feb 2012 14:27:31 -0800
Subject: [NU Sports] Two words
In-Reply-To: <03a9e2b0-d415-442c-91bb-ac572de091be@blur>
References: <20120205221648.6190C65607@romaine.tssi.com>
 <03a9e2b0-d415-442c-91bb-ac572de091be@blur>
Message-ID: <CAHChqvifXJUBB=j70+_NRg=4QjaYBp06LaStLONVVB0_ZrsB1w@mail.gmail.com>

Agreed. There is no one I like beating more than Illinois. I also like how
much they get upset over the "Chicago's Big Ten Team" slogan, as they all
apparently flunked Map Reading 101.

On Sun, Feb 5, 2012 at 2:22 PM, rstetson at capps-assoc.com <
rstetson at capps-assoc.com> wrote:

> One more: REVENGE!!!!!!
>
> Sent from my Verizon Wireless Phone
>
>
> -----Original message-----
> From: nolan at tssi.com (Mike Nolan)
> To: Willie.Weinbaum at espn.com (Weinbaum, Willie)
> Cc: "'nwu-sports at tssi.com'" <nwu-sports at tssi.com>
> Sent: Sun, Feb 5, 2012 22:16:48 GMT+00:00
> Subject: Re: [NU Sports] Two words
>
>  YEAH, BABY!
>>
>
> And on the road, too!
> --
> Mike Nolan
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From sjtruog at yahoo.com  Sun Feb  5 16:29:55 2012
From: sjtruog at yahoo.com (SjT (Stephen J. Truog))
Date: Sun, 5 Feb 2012 14:29:55 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [NU Sports] Two words
In-Reply-To: <20120205221648.6190C65607@romaine.tssi.com>
References: <1F89BB2CE7A5B94D969618E8CC769CC301468CAE11@XCHGBRS4.corp.espn.pvt>
 <20120205221648.6190C65607@romaine.tssi.com>
Message-ID: <1328480995.36966.YahooMailNeo@web121702.mail.ne1.yahoo.com>

NICE road win! And I think the cheer is kind of funny ... it shows that Dr. Phillips is in their head with that slogan and it keeps it going beyond the billboards. Especially when we win.

GO CATS!!!
-SjT
?
* * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *
STEPHEN J. TRUOG
sjtruog at yahoo.com
GO CATS!!! GEAUX SAINTS!!!
Super Bowl XLIV Champions!
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 From: Mike Nolan <nolan at tssi.com>
To: "Weinbaum, Willie" <Willie.Weinbaum at espn.com> 
Cc: "'nwu-sports at tssi.com'" <nwu-sports at tssi.com> 
Sent: Sunday, February 5, 2012 3:16 PM
Subject: Re: [NU Sports] Two words
 
> YEAH, BABY!

And on the road, too!
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From artmiller1 at gmail.com  Sun Feb  5 16:31:57 2012
From: artmiller1 at gmail.com (Arthur Miller)
Date: Sun, 5 Feb 2012 16:31:57 -0600
Subject: [NU Sports] Reg-gie! Reg-gie!
Message-ID: <CAK_3xyKVdpR9RHbRnS_6xB0Ht+Q+N7XHGfEyR7VUrua9VDbvrw@mail.gmail.com>

Suddenly, the dream of an NCAA tournament is within reach again: we need to
win both games against Iowa, home games vs. Minnesota and Michigan, and at
Penn State.  A 9-9 regular season record (7-3 in the final 10 games) should
be enough, even if we drop our first BTT game.

It won't be easy, let alone a certainty, but there's HOPE, BABY!  And for
an NU fan in February, that's enough.

From rstetson at capps-assoc.com  Sun Feb  5 16:43:28 2012
From: rstetson at capps-assoc.com (rstetson at capps-assoc.com)
Date: Sun, 5 Feb 2012 17:43:28 -0500
Subject: [NU Sports] Reg-gie! Reg-gie!
In-Reply-To: <CAK_3xyKVdpR9RHbRnS_6xB0Ht+Q+N7XHGfEyR7VUrua9VDbvrw@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAK_3xyKVdpR9RHbRnS_6xB0Ht+Q+N7XHGfEyR7VUrua9VDbvrw@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <a2ad63ef-a242-4c08-890d-df87be650734@blur>

4more words
Certain to piss off the IL & the evil empire too

Chicago's BIG 10 Team.

Sent from my Verizon Wireless Phone

-----Original message-----
From: Arthur Miller <artmiller1 at gmail.com>
To: Northwestern Wildcats <nwu-sports at tssi.com>
Sent: Sun, Feb 5, 2012 22:31:57 GMT+00:00
Subject: [NU Sports] Reg-gie! Reg-gie!

Suddenly, the dream of an NCAA tournament is within reach again: we need to
win both games against Iowa, home games vs. Minnesota and Michigan, and at
Penn State.  A 9-9 regular season record (7-3 in the final 10 games) should
be enough, even if we drop our first BTT game.

It won't be easy, let alone a certainty, but there's HOPE, BABY!  And for
an NU fan in February, that's enough.
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From rstetson at capps-assoc.com  Sun Feb  5 21:03:42 2012
From: rstetson at capps-assoc.com (Roy S. Lamberton)
Date: Sun, 5 Feb 2012 22:03:42 -0500
Subject: [NU Sports] Paul and I are happy tonite
Message-ID: <000001cce47b$efdf4940$cf9ddbc0$@com>

First the Cats knock off the hated Ill-whine-I

Then the Jints come back, score, and hold off the even more hated, Patriots...

If only Barry C was still on the Giants.

rsl

+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
Opinions expressed above are mine alone and are not
those of any organizations of which I am a member.
+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
Roy S. Lamberton - Senior Associate.
Computer Applications & Support Associates
Coach Roy's Random Thoughts - http://coachroy.org
--------------------- Also ----------------------
"Commissioner" Delaware American Legion Baseball
Director Media Relations - Little League 
  Senior League Softball World Series
CTR2 USN (67-70) - CTRCS USNR (Ret) (64-67/70-95)
Northwestern University - Speech 1974 - 
Chi Phi: Pi 1974, KD 1968
Publisher Emeritus: Purple Reign (Fox Sports)
=================================================
There is nothing wrong with America that the faith, 
love of freedom, intelligence and energy of her citizens 
cannot cure - Dwight D. Eisenhower
=  =  =  =  =  =  =  =  =  =  =  =  =  =  =  =  =
If we become a country in which we say, 'Please, 
tell me how to live,' We're Doomed!"
                   -- Pete Hamill, "Prohibition"
===========  Go Cats -? Beat 'em All  ===========




From neonrye at aol.com  Sun Feb  5 21:09:40 2012
From: neonrye at aol.com (neonrye at aol.com)
Date: Mon, 6 Feb 2012 03:09:40 +0000
Subject: [NU Sports] Paul and I are happy tonite
In-Reply-To: <000001cce47b$efdf4940$cf9ddbc0$@com>
References: <000001cce47b$efdf4940$cf9ddbc0$@com>
Message-ID: <1475992690-1328497653-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-1491099786-@b5.c19.bise6.blackberry>

Roy,

You expressed my thoughts entirely.  Add that Mario Manningham is a B1G guy.
Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry

-----Original Message-----
From: "Roy S. Lamberton" <rstetson at capps-assoc.com>
Sender: nwu-sports-bounces at tssi.com
Date: Sun, 5 Feb 2012 22:03:42 
To: <nwu-sports at tssi.com>
Subject: [NU Sports] Paul and I are happy tonite

First the Cats knock off the hated Ill-whine-I

Then the Jints come back, score, and hold off the even more hated, Patriots...

If only Barry C was still on the Giants.

rsl

+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
Opinions expressed above are mine alone and are not
those of any organizations of which I am a member.
+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
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Computer Applications & Support Associates
Coach Roy's Random Thoughts - http://coachroy.org
--------------------- Also ----------------------
"Commissioner" Delaware American Legion Baseball
Director Media Relations - Little League 
  Senior League Softball World Series
CTR2 USN (67-70) - CTRCS USNR (Ret) (64-67/70-95)
Northwestern University - Speech 1974 - 
Chi Phi: Pi 1974, KD 1968
Publisher Emeritus: Purple Reign (Fox Sports)
=================================================
There is nothing wrong with America that the faith, 
love of freedom, intelligence and energy of her citizens 
cannot cure - Dwight D. Eisenhower
=  =  =  =  =  =  =  =  =  =  =  =  =  =  =  =  =
If we become a country in which we say, 'Please, 
tell me how to live,' We're Doomed!"
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From bwdolphin146 at yahoo.com  Sun Feb  5 21:11:13 2012
From: bwdolphin146 at yahoo.com (bwdolphin146 at yahoo.com)
Date: Mon, 6 Feb 2012 03:11:13 +0000
Subject: [NU Sports] Beating the Illini never gets old
Message-ID: <1668913223-1328497873-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-45106513-@b17.c29.bise6.blackberry>

And I couldn't agree more with Scott: my favorite team to beat is in Champaign!!

Such a shame this team took so long to show up. Sigh. 

Brad Wilson
Sent on the Sprint? Now Network from my BlackBerry?

From hakirsch at aol.com  Sun Feb  5 21:15:20 2012
From: hakirsch at aol.com (hakirsch at aol.com)
Date: Mon, 6 Feb 2012 03:15:20 +0000
Subject: [NU Sports] Paul and I are happy tonite
In-Reply-To: <000001cce47b$efdf4940$cf9ddbc0$@com>
References: <000001cce47b$efdf4940$cf9ddbc0$@com>
Message-ID: <110982989-1328498124-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-1645985389-@b11.c7.bise6.blackberry>

I'm not 

Harry
Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry

-----Original Message-----
From: "Roy S. Lamberton" <rstetson at capps-assoc.com>
Sender: nwu-sports-bounces at tssi.com
Date: Sun, 5 Feb 2012 22:03:42 
To: <nwu-sports at tssi.com>
Subject: [NU Sports] Paul and I are happy tonite

First the Cats knock off the hated Ill-whine-I

Then the Jints come back, score, and hold off the even more hated, Patriots...

If only Barry C was still on the Giants.

rsl

+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
Opinions expressed above are mine alone and are not
those of any organizations of which I am a member.
+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
Roy S. Lamberton - Senior Associate.
Computer Applications & Support Associates
Coach Roy's Random Thoughts - http://coachroy.org
--------------------- Also ----------------------
"Commissioner" Delaware American Legion Baseball
Director Media Relations - Little League 
  Senior League Softball World Series
CTR2 USN (67-70) - CTRCS USNR (Ret) (64-67/70-95)
Northwestern University - Speech 1974 - 
Chi Phi: Pi 1974, KD 1968
Publisher Emeritus: Purple Reign (Fox Sports)
=================================================
There is nothing wrong with America that the faith, 
love of freedom, intelligence and energy of her citizens 
cannot cure - Dwight D. Eisenhower
=  =  =  =  =  =  =  =  =  =  =  =  =  =  =  =  =
If we become a country in which we say, 'Please, 
tell me how to live,' We're Doomed!"
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From Willie.Weinbaum at espn.com  Sun Feb  5 22:20:53 2012
From: Willie.Weinbaum at espn.com (Weinbaum, Willie)
Date: Sun, 5 Feb 2012 23:20:53 -0500
Subject: [NU Sports] Beating the Illini never gets old
In-Reply-To: <1668913223-1328497873-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-45106513-@b17.c29.bise6.blackberry>
Message-ID: <1F89BB2CE7A5B94D969618E8CC769CC301468CAE19@XCHGBRS4.corp.espn.pvt>

Re: "Such a shame this team took so long to show up"

Assuming I'm properly understanding the comment's implications...here's an opposing view...

>From what I've seen, these kids are beyond reproach as far as showing up and working very hard.  Rarely has it appeared that they were lacking in effort (I recall the game against Minnesota as one where it looked as though they were outhustled for a stretch).  Yes, sometimes their performance isn't up to their potential.  Yes, they've missed shots and lost games (four tight ones and four routs), but they DO show up and try their best to represent NU with great heart and passion.  That's part of why games like today's are so gratifying - - they're rewards for these kids for all that they put into them.  They played a helluva game today - - executing beautifully - - even though they were shorthanded again (two key subs out with injuries).   I have no idea how things will play out - - the Cats could falter, as they did after the big win against MSU, or they could thrive after experiencing this important victory.  But I'll be surprised if their effort is less than full and if they justify accusations of them not showing up.  It's easy to root for kids who bounce back and persist and whose care and commitment seem genuine and unshakable, regardless of adversity.  I think NU alums can really identify with those attributes.

If the comment just meant that it's a shame the team didn't click earlier as it did today, maybe they're just a late-blossoming team and the best is ahead. :)

----- Original Message -----
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Sent: Sunday, February 05, 2012 10:11 PM
To: nwu-sports at tssi.com <nwu-sports at tssi.com>
Subject: [NU Sports] Beating the Illini never gets old

And I couldn't agree more with Scott: my favorite team to beat is in Champaign!!

Such a shame this team took so long to show up. Sigh.

Brad Wilson
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From rstetson at capps-assoc.com  Mon Feb  6 06:43:25 2012
From: rstetson at capps-assoc.com (Roy S. Lamberton)
Date: Mon, 6 Feb 2012 07:43:25 -0500
Subject: [NU Sports] Beating the Illini never gets old
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I believe that it is better to get hot in the 2nd half of the season when looking for a
ticket to the dance than it is to win early and lose a bunch at the end of the season.

Good News: we're still in this
Bad News: We have to probably win 5 of the remaining 8 to get invited, altho a 3 game run
in the Big 10 Tourney wouldn't hurt either.

Then again, we could win the Big 10 Tournament - but first we have to qualify.

rsl

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-----Original Message-----
From: nwu-sports-bounces at tssi.com [mailto:nwu-sports-bounces at tssi.com] On Behalf Of
Weinbaum, Willie
Sent: Sunday, February 05, 2012 11:21 PM
To: 'nwu-sports at tssi.com'
Subject: Re: [NU Sports] Beating the Illini never gets old

Re: "Such a shame this team took so long to show up"

Assuming I'm properly understanding the comment's implications...here's an opposing
view...

>From what I've seen, these kids are beyond reproach as far as showing up and working very
hard.  Rarely has it appeared that they were lacking in effort (I recall the game against
Minnesota as one where it looked as though they were outhustled for a stretch).  Yes,
sometimes their performance isn't up to their potential.  Yes, they've missed shots and
lost games (four tight ones and four routs), but they DO show up and try their best to
represent NU with great heart and passion.  That's part of why games like today's are so
gratifying - - they're rewards for these kids for all that they put into them.  They
played a helluva game today - - executing beautifully - - even though they were
shorthanded again (two key subs out with injuries).   I have no idea how things will play
out - - the Cats could falter, as they did after the big win against MSU, or they could
thrive after experiencing this important victory.  But I'll be surprised if their effort
is less than full and if they justify accusations of them not showing up.  It's easy to
root for kids who bounce back and persist and whose care and commitment seem genuine and
unshakable, regardless of adversity.  I think NU alums can really identify with those
attributes.

If the comment just meant that it's a shame the team didn't click earlier as it did today,
maybe they're just a late-blossoming team and the best is ahead. :)

----- Original Message -----
From: bwdolphin146 at yahoo.com [mailto:bwdolphin146 at yahoo.com]
Sent: Sunday, February 05, 2012 10:11 PM
To: nwu-sports at tssi.com <nwu-sports at tssi.com>
Subject: [NU Sports] Beating the Illini never gets old

And I couldn't agree more with Scott: my favorite team to beat is in Champaign!!

Such a shame this team took so long to show up. Sigh.

Brad Wilson
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From Jeff.Beamsley at covisint.com  Mon Feb  6 07:18:06 2012
From: Jeff.Beamsley at covisint.com (Beamsley, Jeff)
Date: Mon, 6 Feb 2012 08:18:06 -0500
Subject: [NU Sports] Beating the Illini never gets old
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Willie,

Good analysis.

The Iowa game should tell whether this was just another peak performance
similar to MSU or indication that this team has finally turned the
corner and understands what they have to do to win.

Couple of key stats jump out from the box score of the Ill-whiny game.

We won the rebound category 24-22 even though Shurna played center for a
chunk of the game.  Every NU starter had at least one rebound.  Because
we don't have the coveted "big" man, the whole team has to crash the
boards.  When they do, good things happen.

We also won the turnover/steal category with 5 steals and 10 turnovers
compared with 2 ill-whiny steals and 12 turnovers.  This shows some
growth by Sobo in handling the full court press.  Also, Shurna playing
at the top of the zone really bothered Ill-noise.

Finally, even though Meyers was 10-12 from the floor, I thought we
played particularly good D on their big guy.  At times it looked like he
could have dominated this game, but our guys did a good job of denying
the entry pass, collapsing on him when he did get the ball, limiting him
to only 3 offensive rebounds, forcing three turnovers, and generally
frustrating him throughout the game. 

Jeff
-----Original Message-----
From: nwu-sports-bounces at tssi.com [mailto:nwu-sports-bounces at tssi.com]
On Behalf Of Weinbaum, Willie
Sent: Sunday, February 05, 2012 11:21 PM
To: 'nwu-sports at tssi.com'
Subject: Re: [NU Sports] Beating the Illini never gets old

Re: "Such a shame this team took so long to show up"

Assuming I'm properly understanding the comment's implications...here's
an opposing view...

>From what I've seen, these kids are beyond reproach as far as showing up
and working very hard.  Rarely has it appeared that they were lacking in
effort (I recall the game against Minnesota as one where it looked as
though they were outhustled for a stretch).  Yes, sometimes their
performance isn't up to their potential.  Yes, they've missed shots and
lost games (four tight ones and four routs), but they DO show up and try
their best to represent NU with great heart and passion.  That's part of
why games like today's are so gratifying - - they're rewards for these
kids for all that they put into them.  They played a helluva game today
- - executing beautifully - - even though they were shorthanded again
(two key subs out with injuries).   I have no idea how things will play
out - - the Cats could falter, as they did after the big win against
MSU, or they could thrive after experiencing this important victory.
But I'll be surprised if their effort is less than full and if they
justify accusations of them not showing up.  It's easy to root for kids
who bounce back and persist and whose care and commitment seem genuine
and unshakable, regardless of adversity.  I think NU alums can really
identify with those attributes.

If the comment just meant that it's a shame the team didn't click
earlier as it did today, maybe they're just a late-blossoming team and
the best is ahead. :)

----- Original Message -----
From: bwdolphin146 at yahoo.com [mailto:bwdolphin146 at yahoo.com]
Sent: Sunday, February 05, 2012 10:11 PM
To: nwu-sports at tssi.com <nwu-sports at tssi.com>
Subject: [NU Sports] Beating the Illini never gets old

And I couldn't agree more with Scott: my favorite team to beat is in
Champaign!!

Such a shame this team took so long to show up. Sigh.

Brad Wilson
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From tkmaycock at yahoo.com  Mon Feb  6 08:47:35 2012
From: tkmaycock at yahoo.com (Tom Maycock)
Date: Mon, 6 Feb 2012 06:47:35 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [NU Sports] Beating the Illini never gets old
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Let's not forget that the Cats played very well throughout the non-conference schedule, including a very nice effort against Creighton on the road. Sure, they didn't play well against Baylor, but Baylor's just in another league from a size and athleticism standpoint.?

The Cats had a bad game against OSU, a bad half against Wisconsin, and a ridiculously poor shooting night against Minny. Aside from that, they've been in every game. Sure, the reasons for the close losses were frustrating--long stretches of not scoring, missed free throws, and so on. But the effort was always there, especially given how short-handed they've been since Cobb has been out.?

They've been a little bit unlucky not to at least be 5-5 in the Big Ten, and could easily be better than that.

As I said a while back, my suggestion is to just enjoy the ride. I predict more depressing losses, some easy, expected wins, and a victory or two that no one expects.?

Finally, obviously Hearn's performance early was a big deal, as was Shurna's incredible determination in the second half, but I think a big key the last two games has been the fact that Sobo's finally been draining some shots. He was in a brutal stretch there where absolutely nothing was going in--including some easy layups. Finally, he started dropping some against the Huskers, and looked much more confident against the Illini. He's not putting up a lot of points, but when you add a few baskets to all the other things he's doing out there, it goes a long way.

Tom

From tkmaycock at yahoo.com  Mon Feb  6 09:43:15 2012
From: tkmaycock at yahoo.com (Tom Maycock)
Date: Mon, 6 Feb 2012 07:43:15 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [NU Sports] Speaking of Sobo...
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Turns out he garnered co-freshman of the week honors! Well deserved at that.?

http://www.nusports.com/sports/m-baskbl/spec-rel/020612aab.html


Perhaps he hit the freshman wall early in the Big 10 season and has now busted through it to emerge on the other side. Heck, he's already a sophomore in terms of minutes played compared to a lot of freshman.

Tom

From neonrye at aol.com  Mon Feb  6 09:44:36 2012
From: neonrye at aol.com (neonrye at aol.com)
Date: Mon, 6 Feb 2012 10:44:36 -0500 (EST)
Subject: [NU Sports] Shurna
Message-ID: <8CEB2FD5C8FB0DB-1F6C-2A7C1@webmail-m138.sysops.aol.com>


He was selected as B1G Player of the Week:  http://www.chicagotribune.com/sports/college/chi-after-beating-illinois-nus-shurna-snags-big-ten-honor-20120206,0,1515642.story



From Jeff.Beamsley at covisint.com  Mon Feb  6 09:48:12 2012
From: Jeff.Beamsley at covisint.com (Beamsley, Jeff)
Date: Mon, 6 Feb 2012 10:48:12 -0500
Subject: [NU Sports] Speaking of Sobo...
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What I really like about Sobo is that he is scrappy and court savvy in an old school Chris Mullin sort of way.  He knows how to draw fouls.  He knows how to lock big guys up under the basket that frustrate them but don't get called.  He is durable and takes care of the ball.  Bottom line is that he is all about winning.

Great recruit by Carmody and team.

Jeff

-----Original Message-----
From: nwu-sports-bounces at tssi.com [mailto:nwu-sports-bounces at tssi.com] On Behalf Of Tom Maycock
Sent: Monday, February 06, 2012 10:43 AM
To: NU Sports List
Subject: [NU Sports] Speaking of Sobo...

Turns out he garnered co-freshman of the week honors! Well deserved at that.?

http://www.nusports.com/sports/m-baskbl/spec-rel/020612aab.html


Perhaps he hit the freshman wall early in the Big 10 season and has now busted through it to emerge on the other side. Heck, he's already a sophomore in terms of minutes played compared to a lot of freshman.

Tom
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From Willie.Weinbaum at espn.com  Mon Feb  6 10:45:34 2012
From: Willie.Weinbaum at espn.com (Weinbaum, Willie)
Date: Mon, 6 Feb 2012 11:45:34 -0500
Subject: [NU Sports] Sun-Times mixes up its NU heartbreakers
Message-ID: <1F89BB2CE7A5B94D969618E8CC769CC3014701576B@XCHGBRS4.corp.espn.pvt>

See underlined/red portion - - that was actually the game in which a driving Drew Crawford was stopped by Meyers Leonard at the buzzer (the Shurna miss was on a long desperation shot at the buzzer against Purdue).

http://www.suntimes.com/sports/10457724-419/illinois-rattled-by-northwesterns-first-win-in-champaign-since-1999.html

Hearn said the Wildcats wanted to get back at the Illini, who won 57-56 at Welsh-Ryan Arena on Jan. 4. That was a winnable game for NU, which had come from behind. But Shurna missed a three-point shot at the buzzer.


From Jeff.Beamsley at covisint.com  Mon Feb  6 11:49:57 2012
From: Jeff.Beamsley at covisint.com (Beamsley, Jeff)
Date: Mon, 6 Feb 2012 12:49:57 -0500
Subject: [NU Sports] Sun-Times mixes up its NU heartbreakers
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Didn't see the underlined/red portion unless you meant the comments.

The Ill-whiny fans who commented were not happy with the loss or Weber.


In the trib article, Weber questioned his teams intensity, particularly
on defense.

I thought Weber's comment about the long minutes played by his starters
was interesting.  He held his younger players out because he wasn't sure
they would be effective defending NU's complicated offense.  As a
result, I think our guys were able to wear down their starters
(particularly Leonard).  We just seemed to have more energy at the end
than they did. 

Jeff

-----Original Message-----
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On Behalf Of Weinbaum, Willie
Sent: Monday, February 06, 2012 11:46 AM
To: Northwestern Wildcats (nwu-sports at tssi.com)
Subject: [NU Sports] Sun-Times mixes up its NU heartbreakers

See underlined/red portion - - that was actually the game in which a
driving Drew Crawford was stopped by Meyers Leonard at the buzzer (the
Shurna miss was on a long desperation shot at the buzzer against
Purdue).

http://www.suntimes.com/sports/10457724-419/illinois-rattled-by-northwes
terns-first-win-in-champaign-since-1999.html

Hearn said the Wildcats wanted to get back at the Illini, who won 57-56
at Welsh-Ryan Arena on Jan. 4. That was a winnable game for NU, which
had come from behind. But Shurna missed a three-point shot at the
buzzer.

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From s-hargadon at northwestern.edu  Mon Feb  6 11:53:35 2012
From: s-hargadon at northwestern.edu (Sean Hargadon)
Date: Mon, 6 Feb 2012 17:53:35 +0000
Subject: [NU Sports] Frank Aschenbrenner
Message-ID: <D597FE7B-3CD2-40D0-8407-0C6DCF9098DA@northwestern.edu>

According to the Trib, Northwestern Rose Bowl hero Frank Aschenbrenner died last month. 

http://trib.in/y87UqL

Aschenbrenner had a 73-yard TD scamper and also completed Northwestern's only pass of the game. Read more about Aschenbrenner's record-breaking Rose Bowl performance in Willie Weinbaum's 2008 story on the 1949 Rose Bowl team for Northwestern magazine.

http:/bit.ly/7M8tZL
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From bwdolphin146 at yahoo.com  Mon Feb  6 13:56:24 2012
From: bwdolphin146 at yahoo.com (bwdolphin146 at yahoo.com)
Date: Mon, 6 Feb 2012 19:56:24 +0000
Subject: [NU Sports] My comment was "a shame they didn't click before now"
	variety
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I would never question their work ethic and passion and they play hard if not always smart. 

I was merely regretting that they didn't have more performances such as Sunday's earlier in the season, which would have been helpful. 

Bw
Brad Wilson
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From s-hargadon at northwestern.edu  Mon Feb  6 14:47:53 2012
From: s-hargadon at northwestern.edu (Sean Hargadon)
Date: Mon, 6 Feb 2012 20:47:53 +0000
Subject: [NU Sports] Len Williams
Message-ID: <7CB61FA8-74E3-4C86-9730-0FAD5B145607@northwestern.edu>

Nice profile on former Wildcats quarterback Len Williams, who threw for nearly 7,500 yards and 44 TDs for Northwestern in the late 1980s and went on to a short career in the CFL. 

http://bit.ly/zDuQmx
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From thehaze at earthlink.net  Mon Feb  6 15:06:20 2012
From: thehaze at earthlink.net (Jim Bendat)
Date: Mon, 6 Feb 2012 13:06:20 -0800 (GMT-08:00)
Subject: [NU Sports] Paul and I are happy tonite
Message-ID: <835590.1328562380829.JavaMail.root@wamui-bucket.atl.sa.earthlink.net>

You can add me to that list. I'm happy whenever any Boston team loses. It all started with me being raised a Lakers fan and our rivalry with the Celtics. Then it spread to a certain venom for all Boston teams, largely because of the obnoxious nature of that city's fans. Apologies to anyone on this esteemed list who may be offended.

One additional note: my wife and I hosted a Super Bowl party. And, for the first time, we ordered a bunch of Lou Malnati's pizzas via their website. They pack the pizzas in dry ice, and federal express the big package overnight. The pizzas were a big hit!

Jim B.

-----Original Message-----
>From: neonrye at aol.com
>Sent: Feb 5, 2012 7:09 PM
>To: "Roy S. Lamberton" <rstetson at capps-assoc.com>, nwu-sports-bounces at tssi.com, nwu-sports at tssi.com
>Subject: Re: [NU Sports] Paul and I are happy tonite
>
>Roy,
>
>You expressed my thoughts entirely.  Add that Mario Manningham is a B1G guy.
>Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: "Roy S. Lamberton" <rstetson at capps-assoc.com>
>Sender: nwu-sports-bounces at tssi.com
>Date: Sun, 5 Feb 2012 22:03:42 
>To: <nwu-sports at tssi.com>
>Subject: [NU Sports] Paul and I are happy tonite
>
>First the Cats knock off the hated Ill-whine-I
>
>Then the Jints come back, score, and hold off the even more hated, Patriots...
>
>If only Barry C was still on the Giants.
>
>rsl
>
>+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
>Opinions expressed above are mine alone and are not
>those of any organizations of which I am a member.
>+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
>Roy S. Lamberton - Senior Associate.
>Computer Applications & Support Associates
>Coach Roy's Random Thoughts - http://coachroy.org
>--------------------- Also ----------------------
>"Commissioner" Delaware American Legion Baseball
>Director Media Relations - Little League 
>  Senior League Softball World Series
>CTR2 USN (67-70) - CTRCS USNR (Ret) (64-67/70-95)
>Northwestern University - Speech 1974 - 
>Chi Phi: Pi 1974, KD 1968
>Publisher Emeritus: Purple Reign (Fox Sports)
>=================================================
>There is nothing wrong with America that the faith, 
>love of freedom, intelligence and energy of her citizens 
>cannot cure - Dwight D. Eisenhower
>=  =  =  =  =  =  =  =  =  =  =  =  =  =  =  =  =
>If we become a country in which we say, 'Please, 
>tell me how to live,' We're Doomed!"
>                   -- Pete Hamill, "Prohibition"
>===========  Go Cats -? Beat 'em All  ===========
>
>
>
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From hakirsch at aol.com  Mon Feb  6 15:49:18 2012
From: hakirsch at aol.com (Harry Kirsch)
Date: Mon, 6 Feb 2012 16:49:18 -0500 (EST)
Subject: [NU Sports] Paul and I are happy tonite
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Well  I will stick up for Boston fans, even with our loss to the  NY Giants 

--It is ironic that a Laker fan is the one throwing stones at Boston fans--For anyone who has ever worn an away jersey or hat while attending a Laker game, you probably know what I am referring to.--Not to mention, it was in LA last year, that a Giant fan was so severely beaten by Dodger fans that he was in a coma for months and suffered permament brain damage--I understand this may  have been a few loose cannons, but there probably is a good reason why beer sales are cut off early when the Giants and Dodgers meet. And when I attend  Raider/Patriot games out here in the Bay , you can be sure I wont even think of cheering for the Pats within earshot of anyone who isnt a Patriot fan. 

I will also refer back to the 1982  7th Game of the Eastern finals when Philly clearly was going to beat Boston at  the Garden, when the fans starting chanting , "Beat LA" for  their perennial East Coast rivals -- I m sure at many other places ,bottles would have been thrown, or lovely epitaphs would have spewed from fans mouths.  I can simply suggest how this contrasted with  Vancouver fans last spring who showed their wonderful  graciousness to the Boston Bruins and their fans after losing the Stanley Cup in 7 games in one of the most exciting  Cup finals in recent history  .  Those riots sure presented the locals in a good light.


And I might also point out that every time Pittsburgh wins a championship, it seems at least a few deaths occur (I only recall one for a Boston victory)--not to knock Pittsburgh fans , but that just seems to be part of the equation.  

Harry Kirsch
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From: Jim Bendat <thehaze at earthlink.net>
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Sent: Mon, Feb 6, 2012 1:06 pm
Subject: Re: [NU Sports] Paul and I are happy tonite


You can add me to that list. I'm happy whenever any Boston team loses. It all 
tarted with me being raised a Lakers fan and our rivalry with the Celtics. Then 
t spread to a certain venom for all Boston teams, largely because of the 
bnoxious nature of that city's fans. Apologies to anyone on this esteemed list 
ho may be offended.
One additional note: my wife and I hosted a Super Bowl party. And, for the first 
ime, we ordered a bunch of Lou Malnati's pizzas via their website. They pack 
he pizzas in dry ice, and federal express the big package overnight. The pizzas 
ere a big hit!
Jim B.
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Subject: Re: [NU Sports] Paul and I are happy tonite

Roy,

You expressed my thoughts entirely.  Add that Mario Manningham is a B1G guy.
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Subject: [NU Sports] Paul and I are happy tonite

First the Cats knock off the hated Ill-whine-I

Then the Jints come back, score, and hold off the even more hated, Patriots...

If only Barry C was still on the Giants.

rsl

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From eschoeman at sbcglobal.net  Mon Feb  6 19:05:56 2012
From: eschoeman at sbcglobal.net (Evans Schoeman)
Date: Mon, 6 Feb 2012 17:05:56 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [NU Sports] Sun-Times mixes up its NU heartbreakers
In-Reply-To: <37BBE4FEDCA6A1479A65BA8A020B14BC333BC6@nasa-dtw-ex006.nasa.cpwr.corp>
References: <1F89BB2CE7A5B94D969618E8CC769CC3014701576B@XCHGBRS4.corp.espn.pvt>
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Very large headine in the sports section of today's "Champaign News-Gazette":

"FAITH NO MORE:? Rare home loss to rival a blow to Illini fans' confidence"

And a great large picture of Sobo competing with Meyers for the ball.




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From: "Beamsley, Jeff" <Jeff.Beamsley at covisint.com>
To: "Weinbaum, Willie" <Willie.Weinbaum at espn.com>; nwu-sports at tssi.com
Sent: Mon, February 6, 2012 11:49:57 AM
Subject: Re: [NU Sports] Sun-Times mixes up its NU heartbreakers

Didn't see the underlined/red portion unless you meant the comments.

The Ill-whiny fans who commented were not happy with the loss or Weber.


In the trib article, Weber questioned his teams intensity, particularly
on defense.

I thought Weber's comment about the long minutes played by his starters
was interesting.? He held his younger players out because he wasn't sure
they would be effective defending NU's complicated offense.? As a
result, I think our guys were able to wear down their starters
(particularly Leonard).? We just seemed to have more energy at the end
than they did. 

Jeff

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Sent: Monday, February 06, 2012 11:46 AM
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Subject: [NU Sports] Sun-Times mixes up its NU heartbreakers

See underlined/red portion - - that was actually the game in which a
driving Drew Crawford was stopped by Meyers Leonard at the buzzer (the
Shurna miss was on a long desperation shot at the buzzer against
Purdue).

http://www.suntimes.com/sports/10457724-419/illinois-rattled-by-northwes
terns-first-win-in-champaign-since-1999.html

Hearn said the Wildcats wanted to get back at the Illini, who won 57-56
at Welsh-Ryan Arena on Jan. 4. That was a winnable game for NU, which
had come from behind. But Shurna missed a three-point shot at the
buzzer.

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From neonrye at aol.com  Mon Feb  6 19:26:03 2012
From: neonrye at aol.com (neonrye at aol.com)
Date: Tue, 7 Feb 2012 01:26:03 +0000
Subject: [NU Sports] Sun-Times mixes up its NU heartbreakers
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Funny, game could be fulcrum, where if 'Cats continue (finally) to roll and pick up enough W's to get asked to go dancin' (still a steep climb, to be sure), we may look back upon this pre-Supe upset as the day Carmody "saved" his job.

And Bruce Webber may have seen his job go slip slidin' away.  His situation is approaching the precarious position the Zooker found himself in.
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Subject: Re: [NU Sports] Sun-Times mixes up its NU heartbreakers

Very large headine in the sports section of today's "Champaign News-Gazette":

"FAITH NO MORE:? Rare home loss to rival a blow to Illini fans' confidence"

And a great large picture of Sobo competing with Meyers for the ball.




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From: "Beamsley, Jeff" <Jeff.Beamsley at covisint.com>
To: "Weinbaum, Willie" <Willie.Weinbaum at espn.com>; nwu-sports at tssi.com
Sent: Mon, February 6, 2012 11:49:57 AM
Subject: Re: [NU Sports] Sun-Times mixes up its NU heartbreakers

Didn't see the underlined/red portion unless you meant the comments.

The Ill-whiny fans who commented were not happy with the loss or Weber.


In the trib article, Weber questioned his teams intensity, particularly
on defense.

I thought Weber's comment about the long minutes played by his starters
was interesting.? He held his younger players out because he wasn't sure
they would be effective defending NU's complicated offense.? As a
result, I think our guys were able to wear down their starters
(particularly Leonard).? We just seemed to have more energy at the end
than they did. 

Jeff

-----Original Message-----
From: nwu-sports-bounces at tssi.com [mailto:nwu-sports-bounces at tssi.com]
On Behalf Of Weinbaum, Willie
Sent: Monday, February 06, 2012 11:46 AM
To: Northwestern Wildcats (nwu-sports at tssi.com)
Subject: [NU Sports] Sun-Times mixes up its NU heartbreakers

See underlined/red portion - - that was actually the game in which a
driving Drew Crawford was stopped by Meyers Leonard at the buzzer (the
Shurna miss was on a long desperation shot at the buzzer against
Purdue).

http://www.suntimes.com/sports/10457724-419/illinois-rattled-by-northwes
terns-first-win-in-champaign-since-1999.html

Hearn said the Wildcats wanted to get back at the Illini, who won 57-56
at Welsh-Ryan Arena on Jan. 4. That was a winnable game for NU, which
had come from behind. But Shurna missed a three-point shot at the
buzzer.

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From neonrye at aol.com  Mon Feb  6 21:21:40 2012
From: neonrye at aol.com (neonrye at aol.com)
Date: Mon, 6 Feb 2012 22:21:40 -0500 (EST)
Subject: [NU Sports] 'Cat on New Network Show
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Currently watching the NBC premiere of "Smash"--the show about Broadway (developing a musical about Marilyn Monroe and the struggle between two actresses for the role of Marilyn).  Having represented talent on Broadway in years past, I am enjoying the backstory, but most importantly, one of the leading roles (the husband of the Debra Messing character) is played by Brian d'Arcy James, a very talented NU grad, whom I have seen in alumni shows in NYC over the years.

Love seen the Purple on the tube.

Paul Levinson

From Willie.Weinbaum at espn.com  Tue Feb  7 09:01:37 2012
From: Willie.Weinbaum at espn.com (Weinbaum, Willie)
Date: Tue, 7 Feb 2012 10:01:37 -0500
Subject: [NU Sports] NU athlete/pioneer featured
Message-ID: <1F89BB2CE7A5B94D969618E8CC769CC301468CAE6A@XCHGBRS4.corp.espn.pvt>

http://www.mlive.com/news/grand-rapids/index.ssf/2012/02/retrospectives_meet_the_ottawa.html

(This link to a Grand Rapids article on NU alum Bernie Jefferson was at Lake the Posts)

From sportsbiz at gmail.com  Tue Feb  7 15:35:33 2012
From: sportsbiz at gmail.com (Sportsbiz)
Date: Tue, 7 Feb 2012 13:35:33 -0800
Subject: [NU Sports] Big Ten Favoring Plus One?
Message-ID: <CAPCH0EPBDUGxcB++PmZmsmSx+Ttm2wJVkBg+1X138vRC13GHEg@mail.gmail.com>

The Trib's Teddy Greenstein quotes our own Jim Philips as saying them Big
Ten is now interested in exploring them plus one championship model, but
with its own twist off course. Them model being explored would take the top
four out off them BCS to play at hivher seeds site. Championship game would
be bid out likely them Super Bowl. Itre would also likely be played sooner.

It's all very tentative and hasn't passed thend presidents yet, but  I like
it better thank having semis at a bowl site due to fans travel issues.
Plus, it rewards the season more. I'm not vrazy about plus one but it's
better thank and 8 or 16 school playoff.

http://www.chicagotribune.com/sports/college/chi-big-ten-idea-a-college-football-playoff-with-home-games-20120206,0,4747499.story

Mark

From Willie.Weinbaum at espn.com  Wed Feb  8 21:00:02 2012
From: Willie.Weinbaum at espn.com (Weinbaum, Willie)
Date: Wed, 8 Feb 2012 22:00:02 -0500
Subject: [NU Sports] Jeremy Lin phenomenon
Message-ID: <1F89BB2CE7A5B94D969618E8CC769CC301468CAED3@XCHGBRS4.corp.espn.pvt>

Harvard (aka N'western of the East) alum Jeremy Lin has transformed Knicks with three terrific performances in three wins.  I'd imagine he's a role model for NU's Sobolewski.

After tonight's game, MSG Network showed a stat Wildcats fans can love - - since 1970, these players have had 20 pts & 8 assists in their first two starts:

Jeremy Lin, 2012
LeBron James, 2003
Greg Anthony, 1991
Negele Knight, 1990
*BILLY MCKINNEY, 1978
Calvin Murphy, 1970

Courtesy Elias Sports Bureau

From rstetson at capps-assoc.com  Thu Feb  9 07:32:29 2012
From: rstetson at capps-assoc.com (Roy S. Lamberton)
Date: Thu, 9 Feb 2012 08:32:29 -0500
Subject: [NU Sports] Praise for Sobo and the return of Dunbar?
Message-ID: <000301cce72f$45ffe860$d1ffb920$@com>

Sobo sounds like he's got his head on straight, he'd have to if he plans to follow in
Juice's footsteps, and maybe lead the Cats to the NCAA's. For now, he sounds like he's
convinced that NU can continue to turn it around and make a decent run. 

Then there is the return of Dunbar to the OC ranks at NIU. 

I always like Mike Dunbar as an assistant. If RW wasn't available you could always get a
good quote or two from him on the offense, and while his play calling was questioned at
times, his NU teams were usually competitive on the offensive side and he has a pretty
good record as a head guy with the smaller teams.

It?s a good thing NU is playing the "Chicago's Big 10 Team" thing, 'cause NIU seems to be
making a lot more noise in the Trib lately.

rsl

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From Willie.Weinbaum at espn.com  Thu Feb  9 16:01:59 2012
From: Willie.Weinbaum at espn.com (Weinbaum, Willie)
Date: Thu, 9 Feb 2012 17:01:59 -0500
Subject: [NU Sports] =?utf-8?q?FW=3A_NU_alum_Josh_Lewin_to_join_Mets?=
 =?utf-8?b?4oCZIHJhZGlvIGJvb3Ro?=
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http://www.nydailynews.com/sports/baseball/mets/josh-lewin-join-howie-rose-ny-mets-radio-booth-replaces-wayne-hagin-article-1.1019856

From tbng at comcast.net  Thu Feb  9 16:22:09 2012
From: tbng at comcast.net (Dennis W. Brandt)
Date: Thu, 9 Feb 2012 17:22:09 -0500
Subject: [NU Sports] Two recruiting questions
Message-ID: <23799284ACDF4F7D8CF3E3C6F9ECB7E4@dennismachine>

1. Is Kyle Prater now taking classes at Northwestern?

2. Did Fitz use up all his scholarships, or does he have a few left?

From j-hodges at alumni.northwestern.edu  Thu Feb  9 18:12:08 2012
From: j-hodges at alumni.northwestern.edu (Jonathan Hodges)
Date: Thu, 9 Feb 2012 19:12:08 -0500
Subject: [NU Sports] Two recruiting questions
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To answer the first question, I heard he wouldn't start until spring
quarter (begins Mar 26).  I assume he can practice before classes begin as
he must be enrolled now (since Northwestern announced his transfer) - since
incoming freshmen practice during the summer before beginning class (spring
practice begins Mar 3; Spring Game is Apr 14).

Not sure about the second, but the incoming recruiting class is one of the
biggest ever at NU (21), so there likely won't be many extras to go
around.  There's always a chance some may free up due to guys who are
injured and cannot play again (not saying I know anything, but one guy that
comes to mind is Roderick Goodlow who injured his knee before the 2010
season and I don't think played at all this season, either - hope he gets
better and this is not the case).

Jonathan

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On Thu, Feb 9, 2012 at 5:22 PM, Dennis W. Brandt <tbng at comcast.net> wrote:

> 1. Is Kyle Prater now taking classes at Northwestern?
>
> 2. Did Fitz use up all his scholarships, or does he have a few left?
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From Willie.Weinbaum at espn.com  Thu Feb  9 18:16:29 2012
From: Willie.Weinbaum at espn.com (Weinbaum, Willie)
Date: Thu, 9 Feb 2012 19:16:29 -0500
Subject: [NU Sports] Cats hoops tont
Message-ID: <1F89BB2CE7A5B94D969618E8CC769CC30147A0283C@XCHGBRS4.corp.espn.pvt>

Women on BTN now - down big in 2d half @ MSU.  Men on ESPNU in just under two hours vs Iowa.

From Willie.Weinbaum at espn.com  Thu Feb  9 20:47:30 2012
From: Willie.Weinbaum at espn.com (Weinbaum, Willie)
Date: Thu, 9 Feb 2012 21:47:30 -0500
Subject: [NU Sports] Pleasure to watch these Cats
Message-ID: <1F89BB2CE7A5B94D969618E8CC769CC30147A02854@XCHGBRS4.corp.espn.pvt>

Strong first half of pressure defense, up-tempo offense some of the time, teamwork all the time.  Not the greatest shooting and the Cats still lead 38-29.  Shurna, Crawford and Sobo leading the way.  Have to keep it up.  Came in a touchdown favorite - an unaccustomed role.

From Willie.Weinbaum at espn.com  Thu Feb  9 21:56:29 2012
From: Willie.Weinbaum at espn.com (Weinbaum, Willie)
Date: Thu, 9 Feb 2012 22:56:29 -0500
Subject: [NU Sports] Trey-mendous
Message-ID: <1F89BB2CE7A5B94D969618E8CC769CC30147A02859@XCHGBRS4.corp.espn.pvt>

Cats play most active and aggressive defense in memory and turnover-free, clicking offense, whether high-speed (racing Sobolewski) or set-up.   A team effort, with plenty of treys and unfailing hustle.  Big games ahead for a team that's now in the discussion for a possible tourney berth.  Tonight's analyst Tim McCormick even predicted the drought will end, the Cats will have a winning Big Ten season and their first-ever NCAA berth.  It's very early to say that, but you have to admire how NU has rebounded from its heartbreaking losses to get on a roll and play its best ball of the year.  Sobo 22 pts (personal best) and 7 assists, team with 22 assists, 13 treys, 56 percent shooting and just a half-dozen or so turnovers.  Oh yeah, an assertive and efficient Shurna and Crawford, a sharpshooting Marcotullio to seal the deal, Hearn and Curletti contributing and the guys avoided getting in any foul trouble - a must with a thin roster.  83-64, wow!

From rstetson at capps-assoc.com  Thu Feb  9 21:59:26 2012
From: rstetson at capps-assoc.com (Roy S. Lamberton)
Date: Thu, 9 Feb 2012 22:59:26 -0500
Subject: [NU Sports] Two recruiting questions
In-Reply-To: <23799284ACDF4F7D8CF3E3C6F9ECB7E4@dennismachine>
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I thought I read somewhere (Trib?) that he had 83 kids on scholarship even with Prater.


But NU always seems to come up with a couple of rides for walk-ons so who knows.

rsl

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--------------------- Also ----------------------
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Director Media Relations - Little League 
  Senior League Softball World Series
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Northwestern University - Speech 1974 - 
Chi Phi: Pi 1974, KD 1968
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=================================================
There is nothing wrong with America that the faith, 
love of freedom, intelligence and energy of her citizens 
cannot cure - Dwight D. Eisenhower
=  =  =  =  =  =  =  =  =  =  =  =  =  =  =  =  =
If we become a country in which we say, 'Please, 
tell me how to live,' We're Doomed!"
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W. Brandt
Sent: Thursday, February 09, 2012 5:22 PM
To: nwu-sports at tssi.com
Subject: [NU Sports] Two recruiting questions

1. Is Kyle Prater now taking classes at Northwestern?

2. Did Fitz use up all his scholarships, or does he have a few left?
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From rstetson at capps-assoc.com  Thu Feb  9 22:10:54 2012
From: rstetson at capps-assoc.com (Roy S. Lamberton)
Date: Thu, 9 Feb 2012 23:10:54 -0500
Subject: [NU Sports] Doncha Lovit?
Message-ID: <004b01cce7a9$fc1b2b30$f4518190$@com>

Whoever came up with the big "3" signs in front of the Wild Side was a genius. NU gets hot
and there's this long line of 3's across the one end. Like the "K's" they put up in
baseball.

But it was fun to watch the game, and watch the Cats win without Shurna and Crawford
having to score 25! A couple of weeks ago, BC was complaining that he didn't have enough
guys who could score - Sobo was in a bit of a slowdown, and both centers were MIA on the
Box Score.

Suddenly, here comes Hearne and Marco. I used to have a term in my pregames for the guy on
the other team who was known for shooting 3's - called him the "Mad Bomber."

Right now, the Cats have 5 guys who could qualify for that moniker. Amazing.

One last thing, the TV guys kept talking about the kids who were coming to Ioway next
year. Nary a word about the signees BC has on the hook, a couple who might start.

rsl

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+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
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Computer Applications & Support Associates
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--------------------- Also ----------------------
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Director Media Relations - Little League 
  Senior League Softball World Series
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love of freedom, intelligence and energy of her citizens 
cannot cure - Dwight D. Eisenhower
=  =  =  =  =  =  =  =  =  =  =  =  =  =  =  =  =
If we become a country in which we say, 'Please, 
tell me how to live,' We're Doomed!"
                   -- Pete Hamill, "Prohibition"
===========  Go Cats -? Beat 'em All  ===========





From Willie.Weinbaum at espn.com  Thu Feb  9 22:31:29 2012
From: Willie.Weinbaum at espn.com (Weinbaum, Willie)
Date: Thu, 9 Feb 2012 23:31:29 -0500
Subject: [NU Sports] Iowa/NU REAIR on ESPNU
Message-ID: <1F89BB2CE7A5B94D969618E8CC769CC30147A0285C@XCHGBRS4.corp.espn.pvt>

Scheduled for 7:30a Eastern tomorrow.

From alan.abrahamson at gmail.com  Fri Feb 10 08:58:38 2012
From: alan.abrahamson at gmail.com (Alan Abrahamson)
Date: Fri, 10 Feb 2012 06:58:38 -0800
Subject: [NU Sports] Best comment from the Iowa "Black Heart Gold Pants"
	board
Message-ID: <CAN7sengyQN8E_eq+9kr3Q+Wuf6ODO9Z8NUxE3OByktgx4iYR7Q@mail.gmail.com>

 Why is Iowa jNW's super
bowl<http://www.blackheartgoldpants.com/2012/2/9/2787780/were-talkin-basketball-iowa-vs-northwestern-basketball#>

IN EVERY F*ING SPORT

I edited the F-bomb to make that post suitable for work purposes.

Last night's game showed evidence of a tourney-worthy Wildcat team. Was the
Illinois win the turning point?

Now -- can this team win on the road at Purdue? And, for real evidence, at
Indiana?

Go Cats!

Alan

From thiegs at umn.edu  Fri Feb 10 09:04:46 2012
From: thiegs at umn.edu (Joe Thiegs)
Date: Fri, 10 Feb 2012 09:04:46 -0600
Subject: [NU Sports] Doncha Lovit?
In-Reply-To: <004b01cce7a9$fc1b2b30$f4518190$@com>
References: <004b01cce7a9$fc1b2b30$f4518190$@com>
Message-ID: <CAFRy6pE=ZrDpzEV_LwAoTxXG8DXj9Eq9FWMHtfLiX4gipL9R3Q@mail.gmail.com>

One NU recruit is a forward out of the Twin Cities from Benilde-St.
Margaret's, Sanjay Lumpkin.  Here's a local article from last summer with
an interview about his commitment to the 'Cats:

http://stlouispark.patch.com/articles/bsm-forward-lumpkin-makes-big-ten-choice

-Joe
**

On Thu, Feb 9, 2012 at 10:10 PM, Roy S. Lamberton
<rstetson at capps-assoc.com>wrote:

> Whoever came up with the big "3" signs in front of the Wild Side was a
> genius. NU gets hot
> and there's this long line of 3's across the one end. Like the "K's" they
> put up in
> baseball.
>
> But it was fun to watch the game, and watch the Cats win without Shurna
> and Crawford
> having to score 25! A couple of weeks ago, BC was complaining that he
> didn't have enough
> guys who could score - Sobo was in a bit of a slowdown, and both centers
> were MIA on the
> Box Score.
>
> Suddenly, here comes Hearne and Marco. I used to have a term in my
> pregames for the guy on
> the other team who was known for shooting 3's - called him the "Mad
> Bomber."
>
> Right now, the Cats have 5 guys who could qualify for that moniker.
> Amazing.
>
> One last thing, the TV guys kept talking about the kids who were coming to
> Ioway next
> year. Nary a word about the signees BC has on the hook, a couple who might
> start.
>
> rsl
>
> +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
> Opinions expressed above are mine alone and are not
> those of any organizations of which I am a member.
> +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
> Roy S. Lamberton - Senior Associate.
> Computer Applications & Support Associates
> Coach Roy's Random Thoughts - http://coachroy.org
> --------------------- Also ----------------------
> "Commissioner" Delaware American Legion Baseball
> Director Media Relations - Little League
>  Senior League Softball World Series
> CTR2 USN (67-70) - CTRCS USNR (Ret) (64-67/70-95)
> Northwestern University - Speech 1974 -
> Chi Phi: Pi 1974, KD 1968
> Publisher Emeritus: Purple Reign (Fox Sports)
> =================================================
> There is nothing wrong with America that the faith,
> love of freedom, intelligence and energy of her citizens
> cannot cure - Dwight D. Eisenhower
> =  =  =  =  =  =  =  =  =  =  =  =  =  =  =  =  =
> If we become a country in which we say, 'Please,
> tell me how to live,' We're Doomed!"
>                   -- Pete Hamill, "Prohibition"
> ===========  Go Cats -  Beat 'em All  ===========
>
>
>
>
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From rstetson at capps-assoc.com  Fri Feb 10 09:27:24 2012
From: rstetson at capps-assoc.com (rstetson at capps-assoc.com)
Date: Fri, 10 Feb 2012 10:27:24 -0500
Subject: [NU Sports] Best comment from the Iowa "Black Heart Gold
	Pants"	board
In-Reply-To: <CAN7sengyQN8E_eq+9kr3Q+Wuf6ODO9Z8NUxE3OByktgx4iYR7Q@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAN7sengyQN8E_eq+9kr3Q+Wuf6ODO9Z8NUxE3OByktgx4iYR7Q@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <805ca6fe-e9a7-40d1-94d8-875df8752cde@blur>

Imho this weekend will prove the cat's worthiness.

And I try to ignore the "chilren of the corn"

Rsl

Sent from my Verizon Wireless Phone

-----Original message-----
From: Alan Abrahamson <alan.abrahamson at gmail.com>
To: Northwestern Wildcats <nwu-sports at tssi.com>
Sent: Fri, Feb 10, 2012 14:58:38 GMT+00:00
Subject: [NU Sports] Best comment from the Iowa "Black Heart Gold Pants"	 
board

 Why is Iowa jNW's super
bowl<http://www.blackheartgoldpants.com/2012/2/9/2787780/were-talkin-basketba 
ll-iowa-vs-northwestern-basketball#>

IN EVERY F*ING SPORT

I edited the F-bomb to make that post suitable for work purposes.

Last night's game showed evidence of a tourney-worthy Wildcat team. Was the
Illinois win the turning point?

Now -- can this team win on the road at Purdue? And, for real evidence, at
Indiana?

Go Cats!

Alan
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From tkmaycock at yahoo.com  Fri Feb 10 09:28:34 2012
From: tkmaycock at yahoo.com (Tom Maycock)
Date: Fri, 10 Feb 2012 07:28:34 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [NU Sports] Best comment from the Iowa "Black Heart Gold Pants"
	board
In-Reply-To: <CAN7sengyQN8E_eq+9kr3Q+Wuf6ODO9Z8NUxE3OByktgx4iYR7Q@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAN7sengyQN8E_eq+9kr3Q+Wuf6ODO9Z8NUxE3OByktgx4iYR7Q@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <1328887714.15142.YahooMailNeo@web161002.mail.bf1.yahoo.com>

BHGP is always fun to read after an NU win!

I was at the game last night, and boy, was that fun to watch. One of the best performances by a Cat b-ball team in a long time, against admittedly inferior competition. Mid-way through the second half, Iowa just looked completely lost on both ends of the floor. And NU was playing hard, really hard. Great enthusiasm everywhere.?

I was exchanging texts with a friend during the early going of the Nebraska game last week, lamenting the fact that Sobo was doing everything right except making shots. I said those shots would start falling eventually, but I was thinking more along the lines of next year.?

It was right about then that he finally put one away against the Huskers, and he hasn't stopped since.?

The fact that he's draining 3s is huge for our offense, but I think the real difference is layups--he couldn't get those to fall for most of the Big 10 season, and looked tentative anytime he got in close. Last night, Sobo just took it hard to the basket and finished strong. Granted, Iowa is a small team, and played some crappy defense, but this was a noticeable change in approach. There were a lot of other plays where he pushed the ball hard up the court, and many of those finished with really nice passes--often for a nifty layup by a teammate. That aggressiveness really made a difference.?

He won't fare as well against, say, OSU, but the strides this kid is making already will pay huge dividends down the road.?

Put that together with Reggie Hearn's emergence as a legitimate scorer, able to hit from outside, post-up, and drive to the hoop, and suddenly we've got an entirely different offense.?

Fun stuff.

Tom

From Jeff.Beamsley at covisint.com  Fri Feb 10 09:41:47 2012
From: Jeff.Beamsley at covisint.com (Beamsley, Jeff)
Date: Fri, 10 Feb 2012 10:41:47 -0500
Subject: [NU Sports] Best comment from the Iowa "Black Heart Gold
	Pants"board
In-Reply-To: <CAN7sengyQN8E_eq+9kr3Q+Wuf6ODO9Z8NUxE3OByktgx4iYR7Q@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAN7sengyQN8E_eq+9kr3Q+Wuf6ODO9Z8NUxE3OByktgx4iYR7Q@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <37BBE4FEDCA6A1479A65BA8A020B14BC440D1B@nasa-dtw-ex006.nasa.cpwr.corp>

I agree.

I think we were all waiting to see if the Illinois game was the high
point of an oscillation that has disappointed us all season, or a
breakout game that is the first data point on a new trajectory for a
team that is learning how to win.

The Iowa game suggests it is the later.  

The Iowa coach McCaffery mentioned how difficult it is to guard NU's
small lineup.  

"It's a tough lineup to match up to. They got some drivers. They got
plenty of shooters. We play more of a traditional lineup. Somebody
that's not used to guarding a guy like [John] Shurna is going end up on
Shurna right off the bat. Somebody that's not used to guarding a guy
like [Alex] Marcotullio, that's who he's gonna end up on."

We saw this small lineup in action last night.

NU spreads the floor with Shurna playing the center spot.  If the other
team plays man, Shurna forces their big guy to come all the way out to
the three point line and chase Shurna around off the ball. That opens up
the middle for everybody else to drive to the basket.  It also opens
Shurna up for easy back cuts or those picks at the top of the key.  If
he doesn't come out to guard him, Shurna hits the three, or takes a
smaller guy to the post.  

Not having a center does make us vulnerable for offensive and defensive
rebounds, and Iowa did out rebound us 29-21.  But against Illinois we
did prove that when the whole team crashes the boards, we can get
rebounds. Stats show that the Iowa game was also a team rebounding
effort.

The whole key to this team is making the three. As long as somebody is
hitting that shot, this small offense will work.

The couple of other interesting things last night were how well we
played in an up tempo game in the first half.  We did seem to run out of
gas toward the end of the first half, but we did also score some points
off the break.

Sobo had the hot hand so we didn't need Shurna to take the game over
late. 

Finally, I think that the zone that we throw at folks once we have a
lead is really our secret weapon.  It is so tempting to try to pound the
ball inside when you see Sobo fronting a guy a foot taller than him.  We
do end up giving up some easy baskets when they are able to get the ball
in, but they end up giving up just as many turnovers in their effort to
get the ball inside.  So this D ultimately works to our advantage.  Even
if the better teams are able to work the ball inside more effectively
than Iowa, as long as they are using a lot of shot clock and we are
hitting threes and taking care of the ball, we'll keep our lead and just
grind out the game (as we did last night).

Jeff

 



-----Original Message-----
From: nwu-sports-bounces at tssi.com [mailto:nwu-sports-bounces at tssi.com]
On Behalf Of Alan Abrahamson
Sent: Friday, February 10, 2012 9:59 AM
To: Northwestern Wildcats
Subject: [NU Sports] Best comment from the Iowa "Black Heart Gold
Pants"board


 Why is Iowa jNW's super
bowl<http://www.blackheartgoldpants.com/2012/2/9/2787780/were-talkin-bas
ketball-iowa-vs-northwestern-basketball#>

IN EVERY F*ING SPORT

I edited the F-bomb to make that post suitable for work purposes.

Last night's game showed evidence of a tourney-worthy Wildcat team. Was
the
Illinois win the turning point?

Now -- can this team win on the road at Purdue? And, for real evidence,
at
Indiana?

Go Cats!

Alan
_______________________________________________
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From Willie.Weinbaum at espn.com  Fri Feb 10 09:54:33 2012
From: Willie.Weinbaum at espn.com (Weinbaum, Willie)
Date: Fri, 10 Feb 2012 10:54:33 -0500
Subject: [NU Sports] Best comment from the Iowa "Black Heart
	Gold	Pants"board
In-Reply-To: <37BBE4FEDCA6A1479A65BA8A020B14BC440D1B@nasa-dtw-ex006.nasa.cpwr.corp>
Message-ID: <1F89BB2CE7A5B94D969618E8CC769CC30147A0288B@XCHGBRS4.corp.espn.pvt>

Excellent analysis!  

The small lineup could be a disaster against Minn or OSU, but the first meetings were disasters anyway and if, as Jeff said, the trey-shooting is on, the Cats can keep pace.  Can't count on getting second shots.  Getting Curletti in the game as a sub cuts down the chances he'll get into early foul trouble.  So little margin for error with this six-man rotation (plus spot duty for Fruendt, who made a nice no-look pass on Shurna's nifty scoop shot) that foul trouble must be avoided.  A shame Cobb isn't available, as his talents would really help.  But this team is sharp and the earlier adversities probably helped Carmody decide on the smaller lineup and helped crystalize for the players what they need to do to sustain good play and close out games.

By the way, I thought it was a GREAT move by Carmody to get the streaky Marcotullio out after his three straight treys late in the game - - before he missed - - so he carries a hot hand into the practices and the next game.  Every ounce of belief with him helps.

Exciting and intriguing times!

----- Original Message -----
From: Beamsley, Jeff [mailto:Jeff.Beamsley at covisint.com]
Sent: Friday, February 10, 2012 10:41 AM
To: Alan Abrahamson <alan.abrahamson at gmail.com>; Northwestern Wildcats <nwu-sports at tssi.com>
Subject: Re: [NU Sports] Best comment from the Iowa "Black Heart Gold	Pants"board

I agree.

I think we were all waiting to see if the Illinois game was the high
point of an oscillation that has disappointed us all season, or a
breakout game that is the first data point on a new trajectory for a
team that is learning how to win.

The Iowa game suggests it is the later.

The Iowa coach McCaffery mentioned how difficult it is to guard NU's
small lineup.

"It's a tough lineup to match up to. They got some drivers. They got
plenty of shooters. We play more of a traditional lineup. Somebody
that's not used to guarding a guy like [John] Shurna is going end up on
Shurna right off the bat. Somebody that's not used to guarding a guy
like [Alex] Marcotullio, that's who he's gonna end up on."

We saw this small lineup in action last night.

NU spreads the floor with Shurna playing the center spot.  If the other
team plays man, Shurna forces their big guy to come all the way out to
the three point line and chase Shurna around off the ball. That opens up
the middle for everybody else to drive to the basket.  It also opens
Shurna up for easy back cuts or those picks at the top of the key.  If
he doesn't come out to guard him, Shurna hits the three, or takes a
smaller guy to the post.

Not having a center does make us vulnerable for offensive and defensive
rebounds, and Iowa did out rebound us 29-21.  But against Illinois we
did prove that when the whole team crashes the boards, we can get
rebounds. Stats show that the Iowa game was also a team rebounding
effort.

The whole key to this team is making the three. As long as somebody is
hitting that shot, this small offense will work.

The couple of other interesting things last night were how well we
played in an up tempo game in the first half.  We did seem to run out of
gas toward the end of the first half, but we did also score some points
off the break.

Sobo had the hot hand so we didn't need Shurna to take the game over
late.

Finally, I think that the zone that we throw at folks once we have a
lead is really our secret weapon.  It is so tempting to try to pound the
ball inside when you see Sobo fronting a guy a foot taller than him.  We
do end up giving up some easy baskets when they are able to get the ball
in, but they end up giving up just as many turnovers in their effort to
get the ball inside.  So this D ultimately works to our advantage.  Even
if the better teams are able to work the ball inside more effectively
than Iowa, as long as they are using a lot of shot clock and we are
hitting threes and taking care of the ball, we'll keep our lead and just
grind out the game (as we did last night).

Jeff





-----Original Message-----
From: nwu-sports-bounces at tssi.com [mailto:nwu-sports-bounces at tssi.com]
On Behalf Of Alan Abrahamson
Sent: Friday, February 10, 2012 9:59 AM
To: Northwestern Wildcats
Subject: [NU Sports] Best comment from the Iowa "Black Heart Gold
Pants"board


 Why is Iowa jNW's super
bowl<http://www.blackheartgoldpants.com/2012/2/9/2787780/were-talkin-bas
ketball-iowa-vs-northwestern-basketball#>

IN EVERY F*ING SPORT

I edited the F-bomb to make that post suitable for work purposes.

Last night's game showed evidence of a tourney-worthy Wildcat team. Was
the
Illinois win the turning point?

Now -- can this team win on the road at Purdue? And, for real evidence,
at
Indiana?

Go Cats!

Alan
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From Jeff.Beamsley at covisint.com  Fri Feb 10 10:42:41 2012
From: Jeff.Beamsley at covisint.com (Beamsley, Jeff)
Date: Fri, 10 Feb 2012 11:42:41 -0500
Subject: [NU Sports] Best comment from the Iowa "Black Heart
	GoldPants"	board
In-Reply-To: <805ca6fe-e9a7-40d1-94d8-875df8752cde@blur>
References: <CAN7sengyQN8E_eq+9kr3Q+Wuf6ODO9Z8NUxE3OByktgx4iYR7Q@mail.gmail.com>
 <805ca6fe-e9a7-40d1-94d8-875df8752cde@blur>
Message-ID: <37BBE4FEDCA6A1479A65BA8A020B14BC440D48@nasa-dtw-ex006.nasa.cpwr.corp>

If we finish 9-9 in the conference and 19-11 overall, I think that we
are definitely in the mix because of strength of schedule and our play
down the stretch.  

Last year the BT sent 7 teams to the dance.  That included all of the
9-9 teams.  The conference is much stronger this year and the NCAA field
is expanded, so I think it is reasonable to expect that at least 7 BT
teams will go this year too.

Right now we are tied in seventh place with Purdue at 5-6.

The easiest path for us to get to 9-9 is to beat Minny at home, PSU and
Iowa on the road, and either Purdue on the road or Michigan at home.  It
is certainly doable.

Purdue is 1-4 in their last 5.  That included home losses to Michigan,
Indiana, and OSU.  So they are beatable at home.

There is one easy win for them in their remaining schedule against UNL.
They have PSU at home, but PSU blew them out in Happy Valley.  To get to
9-9 they are going to have to beat PSU, NU, and MSU at home, or steal
some road wins from teams that they lost to at home.

Iowa (5-7) only has three home games left against tough teams (including
NU) and only the UNL road game looks winnable for them.

Minny (5-7) on the other hand has four home games left, but three are
against ranked teams (OSU, MSU, and IU). The only gimme they have is UNL
at home. 

Stealing a win on the road from Purdude would be huge.

Go Cats!

Jeff

-----Original Message-----
From: nwu-sports-bounces at tssi.com [mailto:nwu-sports-bounces at tssi.com]
On Behalf Of rstetson at capps-assoc.com
Sent: Friday, February 10, 2012 10:27 AM
To: Alan Abrahamson; nwu-sports at tssi.com
Subject: Re: [NU Sports] Best comment from the Iowa "Black Heart
GoldPants" board

Imho this weekend will prove the cat's worthiness.

And I try to ignore the "chilren of the corn"

Rsl

Sent from my Verizon Wireless Phone

-----Original message-----
From: Alan Abrahamson <alan.abrahamson at gmail.com>
To: Northwestern Wildcats <nwu-sports at tssi.com>
Sent: Fri, Feb 10, 2012 14:58:38 GMT+00:00
Subject: [NU Sports] Best comment from the Iowa "Black Heart Gold Pants"

board

 Why is Iowa jNW's super
bowl<http://www.blackheartgoldpants.com/2012/2/9/2787780/were-talkin-bas
ketba 
ll-iowa-vs-northwestern-basketball#>

IN EVERY F*ING SPORT

I edited the F-bomb to make that post suitable for work purposes.

Last night's game showed evidence of a tourney-worthy Wildcat team. Was
the
Illinois win the turning point?

Now -- can this team win on the road at Purdue? And, for real evidence,
at
Indiana?

Go Cats!

Alan
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From tkmaycock at yahoo.com  Fri Feb 10 10:42:44 2012
From: tkmaycock at yahoo.com (Tom Maycock)
Date: Fri, 10 Feb 2012 08:42:44 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [NU Sports] Best comment from the Iowa "Black Heart Gold
	Pants"board
In-Reply-To: <1F89BB2CE7A5B94D969618E8CC769CC30147A0288B@XCHGBRS4.corp.espn.pvt>
References: <37BBE4FEDCA6A1479A65BA8A020B14BC440D1B@nasa-dtw-ex006.nasa.cpwr.corp>
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Message-ID: <1328892164.5453.YahooMailNeo@web161003.mail.bf1.yahoo.com>

Cobb and Mirkavich did both participate in warm-ups. Cobb looked pretty good in particular, so I'm hoping he's getting closer.?

And Alex was on automatic from the arc during pre-game warm-ups. Such a perfect shot. I think he was maybe a little too amped up at the start of the game and took a couple of shots Carmody wished he hadn't. It was nice to see him find the range at a crucial time in the second half.?

Tom


From rstetson at capps-assoc.com  Fri Feb 10 11:15:33 2012
From: rstetson at capps-assoc.com (rstetson at capps-assoc.com)
Date: Fri, 10 Feb 2012 12:15:33 -0500
Subject: [NU Sports] Best comment from the Iowa "Black Heart
	Gold	Pants"board
In-Reply-To: <1328892164.5453.YahooMailNeo@web161003.mail.bf1.yahoo.com>
References: <37BBE4FEDCA6A1479A65BA8A020B14BC440D1B@nasa-dtw-ex006.nasa.cpwr.corp>
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 <1328892164.5453.YahooMailNeo@web161003.mail.bf1.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <687cc61c-79be-48aa-a316-8534a590933f@blur>

Can Cobb redshirt????

Sent from my Verizon Wireless Phone

-----Original message-----
From: Tom Maycock <tkmaycock at yahoo.com>
To: "'nwu-sports at tssi.com'" <nwu-sports at tssi.com>
Sent: Fri, Feb 10, 2012 16:42:44 GMT+00:00
Subject: Re: [NU Sports] Best comment from the Iowa "Black Heart Gold	Pants"board

Cobb and Mirkavich did both participate in warm-ups. Cobb looked pretty good in particular, so I'm hoping he's getting closer.?

And Alex was on automatic from the arc during pre-game warm-ups. Such a perfect shot. I think he was maybe a little too amped up at the start of the game and took a couple of shots Carmody wished he hadn't. It was nice to see him find the range at a crucial time in the second half.?

Tom

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From j-hodges at alumni.northwestern.edu  Fri Feb 10 11:37:03 2012
From: j-hodges at alumni.northwestern.edu (Jonathan Hodges)
Date: Fri, 10 Feb 2012 12:37:03 -0500
Subject: [NU Sports] Best comment from the Iowa "Black Heart Gold
	Pants"board
In-Reply-To: <687cc61c-79be-48aa-a316-8534a590933f@blur>
References: <37BBE4FEDCA6A1479A65BA8A020B14BC440D1B@nasa-dtw-ex006.nasa.cpwr.corp>
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Cobb has already played in 11 games, which I believe is over the limit for
applying for a medical hardship waiver (must play less than 30% of the
regular season, which would be somewhere around 9 games), so I do not
believe he would be eligible.  Since he did not voluntarily redshirt his
freshman year he could still use that, but that would require sitting out
an entire year (so he wouldn't be able to do that this year).  The fact is
that this team is still extremely short on depth (it was before the
injuries that have come and gone all season) and Carmody didn't really have
the luxury of sitting him down for the year except for a clear
season-ending injury.

--
Jonathan Hodges
Contributor, HailToPurple
Web: http://www.hailtopurple.com/jhodges/
Twitter: @hailtopurple
Email: j-hodges at alumni.northwestern.edu



On Fri, Feb 10, 2012 at 12:15 PM, rstetson at capps-assoc.com <
rstetson at capps-assoc.com> wrote:

> Can Cobb redshirt????
>
> Sent from my Verizon Wireless Phone
>
> -----Original message-----
> From: Tom Maycock <tkmaycock at yahoo.com>
> To: "'nwu-sports at tssi.com'" <nwu-sports at tssi.com>
> Sent: Fri, Feb 10, 2012 16:42:44 GMT+00:00
> Subject: Re: [NU Sports] Best comment from the Iowa "Black Heart Gold
> Pants"board
>
> Cobb and Mirkavich did both participate in warm-ups. Cobb looked pretty
> good in particular, so I'm hoping he's getting closer.
>
> And Alex was on automatic from the arc during pre-game warm-ups. Such a
> perfect shot. I think he was maybe a little too amped up at the start of
> the game and took a couple of shots Carmody wished he hadn't. It was nice
> to see him find the range at a crucial time in the second half.
>
> Tom
>
> _______________________________________________
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From rstetson at capps-assoc.com  Fri Feb 10 12:05:56 2012
From: rstetson at capps-assoc.com (rstetson at capps-assoc.com)
Date: Fri, 10 Feb 2012 13:05:56 -0500
Subject: [NU Sports] Best comment from the Iowa "Black Heart Gold
	Pants"board
In-Reply-To: <CAAxRJu6x293JOKSGfr4MWDd-aM8Nd+-PaoaEddumO=O_W-CQvQ@mail.gmail.com>
References: <37BBE4FEDCA6A1479A65BA8A020B14BC440D1B@nasa-dtw-ex006.nasa.cpwr.corp>
 <1F89BB2CE7A5B94D969618E8CC769CC30147A0288B@XCHGBRS4.corp.espn.pvt>
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Didn't think he'd played that much, but I didn't see all the games & I don't  
have decent internet where I am now...

Sent from my Verizon Wireless Phone

-----Original message-----
From: Jonathan Hodges <j-hodges at alumni.northwestern.edu>
To: "rstetson at capps-assoc.com" <rstetson at capps-assoc.com>
Cc: Tom Maycock <tkmaycock at yahoo.com>,  nwu-sports at tssi.com
Sent: Fri, Feb 10, 2012 17:37:03 GMT+00:00
Subject: Re: [NU Sports] Best comment from the Iowa "Black Heart Gold  
Pants"board

Cobb has already played in 11 games, which I believe is over the limit for
applying for a medical hardship waiver (must play less than 30% of the
regular season, which would be somewhere around 9 games), so I do not
believe he would be eligible.  Since he did not voluntarily redshirt his
freshman year he could still use that, but that would require sitting out
an entire year (so he wouldn't be able to do that this year).  The fact is
that this team is still extremely short on depth (it was before the
injuries that have come and gone all season) and Carmody didn't really have
the luxury of sitting him down for the year except for a clear
season-ending injury.

--
Jonathan Hodges
Contributor, HailToPurple
Web: http://www.hailtopurple.com/jhodges/
Twitter: @hailtopurple
Email: j-hodges at alumni.northwestern.edu



On Fri, Feb 10, 2012 at 12:15 PM, rstetson at capps-assoc.com <
rstetson at capps-assoc.com> wrote:

> Can Cobb redshirt????
>
> Sent from my Verizon Wireless Phone
>
> -----Original message-----
> From: Tom Maycock <tkmaycock at yahoo.com>
> To: "'nwu-sports at tssi.com'" <nwu-sports at tssi.com>
> Sent: Fri, Feb 10, 2012 16:42:44 GMT+00:00
> Subject: Re: [NU Sports] Best comment from the Iowa "Black Heart Gold
> Pants"board
>
> Cobb and Mirkavich did both participate in warm-ups. Cobb looked pretty
> good in particular, so I'm hoping he's getting closer.
>
> And Alex was on automatic from the arc during pre-game warm-ups. Such a
> perfect shot. I think he was maybe a little too amped up at the start of
> the game and took a couple of shots Carmody wished he hadn't. It was nice
> to see him find the range at a crucial time in the second half.
>
> Tom
>
> _______________________________________________
> nwu-sports site list
> nwu-sports at tssi.com
> http://romaine.tssi.com/mailman/listinfo/nwu-sports
> _______________________________________________
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>



From tbng at comcast.net  Fri Feb 10 16:13:02 2012
From: tbng at comcast.net (Dennis W. Brandt)
Date: Fri, 10 Feb 2012 17:13:02 -0500
Subject: [NU Sports] Doncha Lovit?
References: <004b01cce7a9$fc1b2b30$f4518190$@com>
 <CAFRy6pE=ZrDpzEV_LwAoTxXG8DXj9Eq9FWMHtfLiX4gipL9R3Q@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <D7F86F23787E44C280684C88A428C4B6@dennismachine>

I'd like to get giddy about Sanjay, but he didn't turn down Duke, North 
Carolina, Kentucky, or Syracuse to play for Northwestern.  He rejected 
Richmond, Indiana State (they've had their one Larry Bird), and Lehigh.

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Joe Thiegs" <thiegs at umn.edu>
To: "Roy S. Lamberton" <rstetson at capps-assoc.com>
Cc: <nwu-sports at tssi.com>
Sent: Friday, February 10, 2012 10:04 AM
Subject: Re: [NU Sports] Doncha Lovit?


> One NU recruit is a forward out of the Twin Cities from Benilde-St.
> Margaret's, Sanjay Lumpkin.  Here's a local article from last summer with
> an interview about his commitment to the 'Cats:
>
> http://stlouispark.patch.com/articles/bsm-forward-lumpkin-makes-big-ten-choice
>
> -Joe
> **
>
> On Thu, Feb 9, 2012 at 10:10 PM, Roy S. Lamberton
> <rstetson at capps-assoc.com>wrote:
>
>> Whoever came up with the big "3" signs in front of the Wild Side was a
>> genius. NU gets hot
>> and there's this long line of 3's across the one end. Like the "K's" they
>> put up in
>> baseball.
>>
>> But it was fun to watch the game, and watch the Cats win without Shurna
>> and Crawford
>> having to score 25! A couple of weeks ago, BC was complaining that he
>> didn't have enough
>> guys who could score - Sobo was in a bit of a slowdown, and both centers
>> were MIA on the
>> Box Score.
>>
>> Suddenly, here comes Hearne and Marco. I used to have a term in my
>> pregames for the guy on
>> the other team who was known for shooting 3's - called him the "Mad
>> Bomber."
>>
>> Right now, the Cats have 5 guys who could qualify for that moniker.
>> Amazing.
>>
>> One last thing, the TV guys kept talking about the kids who were coming 
>> to
>> Ioway next
>> year. Nary a word about the signees BC has on the hook, a couple who 
>> might
>> start.
>>
>> rsl
>>
>> +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
>> Opinions expressed above are mine alone and are not
>> those of any organizations of which I am a member.
>> +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
>> Roy S. Lamberton - Senior Associate.
>> Computer Applications & Support Associates
>> Coach Roy's Random Thoughts - http://coachroy.org
>> --------------------- Also ----------------------
>> "Commissioner" Delaware American Legion Baseball
>> Director Media Relations - Little League
>>  Senior League Softball World Series
>> CTR2 USN (67-70) - CTRCS USNR (Ret) (64-67/70-95)
>> Northwestern University - Speech 1974 -
>> Chi Phi: Pi 1974, KD 1968
>> Publisher Emeritus: Purple Reign (Fox Sports)
>> =================================================
>> There is nothing wrong with America that the faith,
>> love of freedom, intelligence and energy of her citizens
>> cannot cure - Dwight D. Eisenhower
>> =  =  =  =  =  =  =  =  =  =  =  =  =  =  =  =  =
>> If we become a country in which we say, 'Please,
>> tell me how to live,' We're Doomed!"
>>                   -- Pete Hamill, "Prohibition"
>> ===========  Go Cats -  Beat 'em All  ===========
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> nwu-sports site list
>> nwu-sports at tssi.com
>> http://romaine.tssi.com/mailman/listinfo/nwu-sports
>>
> _______________________________________________
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> http://romaine.tssi.com/mailman/listinfo/nwu-sports
> 


From thiegs at umn.edu  Fri Feb 10 16:41:25 2012
From: thiegs at umn.edu (Joe Thiegs)
Date: Fri, 10 Feb 2012 16:41:25 -0600
Subject: [NU Sports] Doncha Lovit?
In-Reply-To: <D7F86F23787E44C280684C88A428C4B6@dennismachine>
References: <004b01cce7a9$fc1b2b30$f4518190$@com>
 <CAFRy6pE=ZrDpzEV_LwAoTxXG8DXj9Eq9FWMHtfLiX4gipL9R3Q@mail.gmail.com>
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Yeah, but don't forget about Holy Cross, American, and Drake.  ;)  No, he's
not an All-American, but neither are any of our other recruits.  I don't
know how excited to get about him either, but I did hear him mentioned on
the news the other night, referred to as "playing at Northwestern next
year," amid highlights of him leading Benilde to a win.  He seems like a
good kid, and maybe he'll be another Shurna or Crawford.  -Joe
**

On Fri, Feb 10, 2012 at 4:13 PM, Dennis W. Brandt <tbng at comcast.net> wrote:

> I'd like to get giddy about Sanjay, but he didn't turn down Duke, North
> Carolina, Kentucky, or Syracuse to play for Northwestern.  He rejected
> Richmond, Indiana State (they've had their one Larry Bird), and Lehigh.
>
> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Joe Thiegs" <thiegs at umn.edu>
> To: "Roy S. Lamberton" <rstetson at capps-assoc.com>
> Cc: <nwu-sports at tssi.com>
> Sent: Friday, February 10, 2012 10:04 AM
> Subject: Re: [NU Sports] Doncha Lovit?
>
>
>  One NU recruit is a forward out of the Twin Cities from Benilde-St.
>> Margaret's, Sanjay Lumpkin.  Here's a local article from last summer with
>> an interview about his commitment to the 'Cats:
>>
>> http://stlouispark.patch.com/**articles/bsm-forward-lumpkin-**
>> makes-big-ten-choice<http://stlouispark.patch.com/articles/bsm-forward-lumpkin-makes-big-ten-choice>
>>
>> -Joe
>> **
>>
>>
>> On Thu, Feb 9, 2012 at 10:10 PM, Roy S. Lamberton
>> <rstetson at capps-assoc.com>**wrote:
>>
>>  Whoever came up with the big "3" signs in front of the Wild Side was a
>>> genius. NU gets hot
>>> and there's this long line of 3's across the one end. Like the "K's" they
>>> put up in
>>> baseball.
>>>
>>> But it was fun to watch the game, and watch the Cats win without Shurna
>>> and Crawford
>>> having to score 25! A couple of weeks ago, BC was complaining that he
>>> didn't have enough
>>> guys who could score - Sobo was in a bit of a slowdown, and both centers
>>> were MIA on the
>>> Box Score.
>>>
>>> Suddenly, here comes Hearne and Marco. I used to have a term in my
>>> pregames for the guy on
>>> the other team who was known for shooting 3's - called him the "Mad
>>> Bomber."
>>>
>>> Right now, the Cats have 5 guys who could qualify for that moniker.
>>> Amazing.
>>>
>>> One last thing, the TV guys kept talking about the kids who were coming
>>> to
>>> Ioway next
>>> year. Nary a word about the signees BC has on the hook, a couple who
>>> might
>>> start.
>>>
>>> rsl
>>>
>>> ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++**+++++++++++++++++++
>>> Opinions expressed above are mine alone and are not
>>> those of any organizations of which I am a member.
>>> ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++**+++++++++++++++++++
>>> Roy S. Lamberton - Senior Associate.
>>> Computer Applications & Support Associates
>>> Coach Roy's Random Thoughts - http://coachroy.org
>>> --------------------- Also ----------------------
>>> "Commissioner" Delaware American Legion Baseball
>>> Director Media Relations - Little League
>>>  Senior League Softball World Series
>>> CTR2 USN (67-70) - CTRCS USNR (Ret) (64-67/70-95)
>>> Northwestern University - Speech 1974 -
>>> Chi Phi: Pi 1974, KD 1968
>>> Publisher Emeritus: Purple Reign (Fox Sports)
>>> ==============================**===================
>>> There is nothing wrong with America that the faith,
>>> love of freedom, intelligence and energy of her citizens
>>> cannot cure - Dwight D. Eisenhower
>>> =  =  =  =  =  =  =  =  =  =  =  =  =  =  =  =  =
>>> If we become a country in which we say, 'Please,
>>> tell me how to live,' We're Doomed!"
>>>                  -- Pete Hamill, "Prohibition"
>>> ===========  Go Cats -  Beat 'em All  ===========
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> ______________________________**_________________
>>> nwu-sports site list
>>> nwu-sports at tssi.com
>>> http://romaine.tssi.com/**mailman/listinfo/nwu-sports<http://romaine.tssi.com/mailman/listinfo/nwu-sports>
>>>
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>>
>>
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From rstetson at capps-assoc.com  Fri Feb 10 17:14:34 2012
From: rstetson at capps-assoc.com (Roy S. Lamberton)
Date: Fri, 10 Feb 2012 18:14:34 -0500
Subject: [NU Sports] Doncha Lovit?
In-Reply-To: <CAFRy6pGWBUq6Luu8LJQyBwVSWV=GGQA3X=4syrsQEbwYq2U-rQ@mail.gmail.com>
References: <004b01cce7a9$fc1b2b30$f4518190$@com>
 <CAFRy6pE=ZrDpzEV_LwAoTxXG8DXj9Eq9FWMHtfLiX4gipL9R3Q@mail.gmail.com>
 <D7F86F23787E44C280684C88A428C4B6@dennismachine>
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Message-ID: <000601cce849$c21deee0$4659cca0$@com>

Do the guys who want to play for Duke or other super programs turn them down to come to
NU? With our "screwey" offense and 1-3-1 defense (where everyone else plays Man?)

It takes a certain mindset to come to NU and play roundball - you have to be somewhat
convinced that the NBA isn't in your future, but you can compete at the highest level and
(eventually) be an NCAA team every year.

No reason why we can't recruit like that - and BC's assistants are definitely bringing the
right kids to Evanston to talk to the coach.

rsl

+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
Opinions expressed above are mine alone and are not
those of any organizations of which I am a member.
+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
Roy S. Lamberton - Senior Associate.
Computer Applications & Support Associates
Coach Roy's Random Thoughts - http://coachroy.org
--------------------- Also ----------------------
"Commissioner" Delaware American Legion Baseball
Director Media Relations - Little League 
  Senior League Softball World Series
CTR2 USN (67-70) - CTRCS USNR (Ret) (64-67/70-95)
Northwestern University - Speech 1974 - 
Chi Phi: Pi 1974, KD 1968
Publisher Emeritus: Purple Reign (Fox Sports)
=================================================
There is nothing wrong with America that the faith, 
love of freedom, intelligence and energy of her citizens 
cannot cure - Dwight D. Eisenhower
=  =  =  =  =  =  =  =  =  =  =  =  =  =  =  =  =
If we become a country in which we say, 'Please, 
tell me how to live,' We're Doomed!"
                   -- Pete Hamill, "Prohibition"
===========  Go Cats -? Beat 'em All  ===========


-----Original Message-----
From: nwu-sports-bounces at tssi.com [mailto:nwu-sports-bounces at tssi.com] On Behalf Of Joe
Thiegs
Sent: Friday, February 10, 2012 5:41 PM
To: Dennis W. Brandt
Cc: nwu-sports at tssi.com
Subject: Re: [NU Sports] Doncha Lovit?

Yeah, but don't forget about Holy Cross, American, and Drake.  ;)  No, he's not an
All-American, but neither are any of our other recruits.  I don't know how excited to get
about him either, but I did hear him mentioned on the news the other night, referred to as
"playing at Northwestern next year," amid highlights of him leading Benilde to a win.  He
seems like a good kid, and maybe he'll be another Shurna or Crawford.  -Joe
**

On Fri, Feb 10, 2012 at 4:13 PM, Dennis W. Brandt <tbng at comcast.net> wrote:

> I'd like to get giddy about Sanjay, but he didn't turn down Duke, 
> North Carolina, Kentucky, or Syracuse to play for Northwestern.  He 
> rejected Richmond, Indiana State (they've had their one Larry Bird), and Lehigh.
>
> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Joe Thiegs" <thiegs at umn.edu>
> To: "Roy S. Lamberton" <rstetson at capps-assoc.com>
> Cc: <nwu-sports at tssi.com>
> Sent: Friday, February 10, 2012 10:04 AM
> Subject: Re: [NU Sports] Doncha Lovit?
>
>
>  One NU recruit is a forward out of the Twin Cities from Benilde-St.
>> Margaret's, Sanjay Lumpkin.  Here's a local article from last summer 
>> with an interview about his commitment to the 'Cats:
>>
>> http://stlouispark.patch.com/**articles/bsm-forward-lumpkin-**
>> makes-big-ten-choice<http://stlouispark.patch.com/articles/bsm-forwar
>> d-lumpkin-makes-big-ten-choice>
>>
>> -Joe
>> **
>>
>>
>> On Thu, Feb 9, 2012 at 10:10 PM, Roy S. Lamberton
>> <rstetson at capps-assoc.com>**wrote:
>>
>>  Whoever came up with the big "3" signs in front of the Wild Side was 
>> a
>>> genius. NU gets hot
>>> and there's this long line of 3's across the one end. Like the "K's" 
>>> they put up in baseball.
>>>
>>> But it was fun to watch the game, and watch the Cats win without 
>>> Shurna and Crawford having to score 25! A couple of weeks ago, BC 
>>> was complaining that he didn't have enough guys who could score - 
>>> Sobo was in a bit of a slowdown, and both centers were MIA on the 
>>> Box Score.
>>>
>>> Suddenly, here comes Hearne and Marco. I used to have a term in my 
>>> pregames for the guy on the other team who was known for shooting 
>>> 3's - called him the "Mad Bomber."
>>>
>>> Right now, the Cats have 5 guys who could qualify for that moniker.
>>> Amazing.
>>>
>>> One last thing, the TV guys kept talking about the kids who were 
>>> coming to Ioway next year. Nary a word about the signees BC has on 
>>> the hook, a couple who might start.
>>>
>>> rsl
>>>
>>> ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++**+++++++++++++++++++
>>> Opinions expressed above are mine alone and are not those of any 
>>> organizations of which I am a member.
>>> ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++**+++++++++++++++++++
>>> Roy S. Lamberton - Senior Associate.
>>> Computer Applications & Support Associates Coach Roy's Random 
>>> Thoughts - http://coachroy.org
>>> --------------------- Also ---------------------- "Commissioner" 
>>> Delaware American Legion Baseball Director Media Relations - Little 
>>> League  Senior League Softball World Series
>>> CTR2 USN (67-70) - CTRCS USNR (Ret) (64-67/70-95) Northwestern 
>>> University - Speech 1974 - Chi Phi: Pi 1974, KD 1968 Publisher 
>>> Emeritus: Purple Reign (Fox Sports) 
>>> ==============================**===================
>>> There is nothing wrong with America that the faith, love of freedom, 
>>> intelligence and energy of her citizens cannot cure - Dwight D. 
>>> Eisenhower =  =  =  =  =  =  =  =  =  =  =  =  =  =  =  =  = If we 
>>> become a country in which we say, 'Please, tell me how to live,' 
>>> We're Doomed!"
>>>                  -- Pete Hamill, "Prohibition"
>>> ===========  Go Cats -  Beat 'em All  ===========
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> ______________________________**_________________
>>> nwu-sports site list
>>> nwu-sports at tssi.com
>>> http://romaine.tssi.com/**mailman/listinfo/nwu-sports<http://romaine
>>> .tssi.com/mailman/listinfo/nwu-sports>
>>>
>>>  ______________________________**_________________
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>> tssi.com/mailman/listinfo/nwu-sports>
>>
>>
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From hakirsch at aol.com  Fri Feb 10 20:33:01 2012
From: hakirsch at aol.com (hakirsch at aol.com)
Date: Sat, 11 Feb 2012 02:33:01 +0000
Subject: [NU Sports] Doncha Lovit?
In-Reply-To: <000601cce849$c21deee0$4659cca0$@com>
References: <004b01cce7a9$fc1b2b30$f4518190$@com>
 <CAFRy6pE=ZrDpzEV_LwAoTxXG8DXj9Eq9FWMHtfLiX4gipL9R3Q@mail.gmail.com>
 <D7F86F23787E44C280684C88A428C4B6@dennismachine>
 <CAFRy6pGWBUq6Luu8LJQyBwVSWV=GGQA3X=4syrsQEbwYq2U-rQ@mail.gmail.com>
 <000601cce849$c21deee0$4659cca0$@com>
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Just watching the NYN and Linn.  Now why couldn't we have recruited that Harvard guy ?

Harry
Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry

-----Original Message-----
From: "Roy S. Lamberton" <rstetson at capps-assoc.com>
Sender: nwu-sports-bounces at tssi.com
Date: Fri, 10 Feb 2012 18:14:34 
To: 'Joe Thiegs'<thiegs at umn.edu>; 'Dennis W. Brandt'<tbng at comcast.net>
Cc: <nwu-sports at tssi.com>
Subject: Re: [NU Sports] Doncha Lovit?

Do the guys who want to play for Duke or other super programs turn them down to come to
NU? With our "screwey" offense and 1-3-1 defense (where everyone else plays Man?)

It takes a certain mindset to come to NU and play roundball - you have to be somewhat
convinced that the NBA isn't in your future, but you can compete at the highest level and
(eventually) be an NCAA team every year.

No reason why we can't recruit like that - and BC's assistants are definitely bringing the
right kids to Evanston to talk to the coach.

rsl

+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
Opinions expressed above are mine alone and are not
those of any organizations of which I am a member.
+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
Roy S. Lamberton - Senior Associate.
Computer Applications & Support Associates
Coach Roy's Random Thoughts - http://coachroy.org
--------------------- Also ----------------------
"Commissioner" Delaware American Legion Baseball
Director Media Relations - Little League 
  Senior League Softball World Series
CTR2 USN (67-70) - CTRCS USNR (Ret) (64-67/70-95)
Northwestern University - Speech 1974 - 
Chi Phi: Pi 1974, KD 1968
Publisher Emeritus: Purple Reign (Fox Sports)
=================================================
There is nothing wrong with America that the faith, 
love of freedom, intelligence and energy of her citizens 
cannot cure - Dwight D. Eisenhower
=  =  =  =  =  =  =  =  =  =  =  =  =  =  =  =  =
If we become a country in which we say, 'Please, 
tell me how to live,' We're Doomed!"
                   -- Pete Hamill, "Prohibition"
===========  Go Cats -? Beat 'em All  ===========


-----Original Message-----
From: nwu-sports-bounces at tssi.com [mailto:nwu-sports-bounces at tssi.com] On Behalf Of Joe
Thiegs
Sent: Friday, February 10, 2012 5:41 PM
To: Dennis W. Brandt
Cc: nwu-sports at tssi.com
Subject: Re: [NU Sports] Doncha Lovit?

Yeah, but don't forget about Holy Cross, American, and Drake.  ;)  No, he's not an
All-American, but neither are any of our other recruits.  I don't know how excited to get
about him either, but I did hear him mentioned on the news the other night, referred to as
"playing at Northwestern next year," amid highlights of him leading Benilde to a win.  He
seems like a good kid, and maybe he'll be another Shurna or Crawford.  -Joe
**

On Fri, Feb 10, 2012 at 4:13 PM, Dennis W. Brandt <tbng at comcast.net> wrote:

> I'd like to get giddy about Sanjay, but he didn't turn down Duke, 
> North Carolina, Kentucky, or Syracuse to play for Northwestern.  He 
> rejected Richmond, Indiana State (they've had their one Larry Bird), and Lehigh.
>
> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Joe Thiegs" <thiegs at umn.edu>
> To: "Roy S. Lamberton" <rstetson at capps-assoc.com>
> Cc: <nwu-sports at tssi.com>
> Sent: Friday, February 10, 2012 10:04 AM
> Subject: Re: [NU Sports] Doncha Lovit?
>
>
>  One NU recruit is a forward out of the Twin Cities from Benilde-St.
>> Margaret's, Sanjay Lumpkin.  Here's a local article from last summer 
>> with an interview about his commitment to the 'Cats:
>>
>> http://stlouispark.patch.com/**articles/bsm-forward-lumpkin-**
>> makes-big-ten-choice<http://stlouispark.patch.com/articles/bsm-forwar
>> d-lumpkin-makes-big-ten-choice>
>>
>> -Joe
>> **
>>
>>
>> On Thu, Feb 9, 2012 at 10:10 PM, Roy S. Lamberton
>> <rstetson at capps-assoc.com>**wrote:
>>
>>  Whoever came up with the big "3" signs in front of the Wild Side was 
>> a
>>> genius. NU gets hot
>>> and there's this long line of 3's across the one end. Like the "K's" 
>>> they put up in baseball.
>>>
>>> But it was fun to watch the game, and watch the Cats win without 
>>> Shurna and Crawford having to score 25! A couple of weeks ago, BC 
>>> was complaining that he didn't have enough guys who could score - 
>>> Sobo was in a bit of a slowdown, and both centers were MIA on the 
>>> Box Score.
>>>
>>> Suddenly, here comes Hearne and Marco. I used to have a term in my 
>>> pregames for the guy on the other team who was known for shooting 
>>> 3's - called him the "Mad Bomber."
>>>
>>> Right now, the Cats have 5 guys who could qualify for that moniker.
>>> Amazing.
>>>
>>> One last thing, the TV guys kept talking about the kids who were 
>>> coming to Ioway next year. Nary a word about the signees BC has on 
>>> the hook, a couple who might start.
>>>
>>> rsl
>>>
>>> ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++**+++++++++++++++++++
>>> Opinions expressed above are mine alone and are not those of any 
>>> organizations of which I am a member.
>>> ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++**+++++++++++++++++++
>>> Roy S. Lamberton - Senior Associate.
>>> Computer Applications & Support Associates Coach Roy's Random 
>>> Thoughts - http://coachroy.org
>>> --------------------- Also ---------------------- "Commissioner" 
>>> Delaware American Legion Baseball Director Media Relations - Little 
>>> League  Senior League Softball World Series
>>> CTR2 USN (67-70) - CTRCS USNR (Ret) (64-67/70-95) Northwestern 
>>> University - Speech 1974 - Chi Phi: Pi 1974, KD 1968 Publisher 
>>> Emeritus: Purple Reign (Fox Sports) 
>>> ==============================**===================
>>> There is nothing wrong with America that the faith, love of freedom, 
>>> intelligence and energy of her citizens cannot cure - Dwight D. 
>>> Eisenhower =  =  =  =  =  =  =  =  =  =  =  =  =  =  =  =  = If we 
>>> become a country in which we say, 'Please, tell me how to live,' 
>>> We're Doomed!"
>>>                  -- Pete Hamill, "Prohibition"
>>> ===========  Go Cats -  Beat 'em All  ===========
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
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From hakirsch at aol.com  Sat Feb 11 06:03:01 2012
From: hakirsch at aol.com (hakirsch at aol.com)
Date: Sat, 11 Feb 2012 12:03:01 +0000
Subject: [NU Sports] Jeremy Lin
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Even Coach Fitz was quoted on his Twitter account saying it was great to see someone working hard on the court and saying the right things off of it.  A few weeks ago this guy was sleeping on his  teammate's couch.

Not sure if he will be a flash in the pan or not,but I had fun watching the game and found it easy to root for Lin and the Knicks last night (especially when they play the Lakers). 

BTW the Knicks have both  Harvard and Stanford alums on their team now 

Harry
Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry

-----Original Message-----
From: hakirsch at aol.com
Sender: nwu-sports-bounces at tssi.com
Date: Sat, 11 Feb 2012 02:33:01 
To: Roy S. Lamberton<rstetson at capps-assoc.com>; <nwu-sports-bounces at tssi.com>; 'Joe Thiegs'<thiegs at umn.edu>; 'Dennis W. Brandt'<tbng at comcast.net>
Reply-To: hakirsch at aol.com
Cc: <nwu-sports at tssi.com>
Subject: Re: [NU Sports] Doncha Lovit?

Just watching the NYN and Linn.  Now why couldn't we have recruited that Harvard guy ?

Harry
Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry

-----Original Message-----
From: "Roy S. Lamberton" <rstetson at capps-assoc.com>
Sender: nwu-sports-bounces at tssi.com
Date: Fri, 10 Feb 2012 18:14:34 
To: 'Joe Thiegs'<thiegs at umn.edu>; 'Dennis W. Brandt'<tbng at comcast.net>
Cc: <nwu-sports at tssi.com>
Subject: Re: [NU Sports] Doncha Lovit?

Do the guys who want to play for Duke or other super programs turn them down to come to
NU? With our "screwey" offense and 1-3-1 defense (where everyone else plays Man?)

It takes a certain mindset to come to NU and play roundball - you have to be somewhat
convinced that the NBA isn't in your future, but you can compete at the highest level and
(eventually) be an NCAA team every year.

No reason why we can't recruit like that - and BC's assistants are definitely bringing the
right kids to Evanston to talk to the coach.

rsl

+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
Opinions expressed above are mine alone and are not
those of any organizations of which I am a member.
+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
Roy S. Lamberton - Senior Associate.
Computer Applications & Support Associates
Coach Roy's Random Thoughts - http://coachroy.org
--------------------- Also ----------------------
"Commissioner" Delaware American Legion Baseball
Director Media Relations - Little League 
  Senior League Softball World Series
CTR2 USN (67-70) - CTRCS USNR (Ret) (64-67/70-95)
Northwestern University - Speech 1974 - 
Chi Phi: Pi 1974, KD 1968
Publisher Emeritus: Purple Reign (Fox Sports)
=================================================
There is nothing wrong with America that the faith, 
love of freedom, intelligence and energy of her citizens 
cannot cure - Dwight D. Eisenhower
=  =  =  =  =  =  =  =  =  =  =  =  =  =  =  =  =
If we become a country in which we say, 'Please, 
tell me how to live,' We're Doomed!"
                   -- Pete Hamill, "Prohibition"
===========  Go Cats -? Beat 'em All  ===========


-----Original Message-----
From: nwu-sports-bounces at tssi.com [mailto:nwu-sports-bounces at tssi.com] On Behalf Of Joe
Thiegs
Sent: Friday, February 10, 2012 5:41 PM
To: Dennis W. Brandt
Cc: nwu-sports at tssi.com
Subject: Re: [NU Sports] Doncha Lovit?

Yeah, but don't forget about Holy Cross, American, and Drake.  ;)  No, he's not an
All-American, but neither are any of our other recruits.  I don't know how excited to get
about him either, but I did hear him mentioned on the news the other night, referred to as
"playing at Northwestern next year," amid highlights of him leading Benilde to a win.  He
seems like a good kid, and maybe he'll be another Shurna or Crawford.  -Joe
**

On Fri, Feb 10, 2012 at 4:13 PM, Dennis W. Brandt <tbng at comcast.net> wrote:

> I'd like to get giddy about Sanjay, but he didn't turn down Duke, 
> North Carolina, Kentucky, or Syracuse to play for Northwestern.  He 
> rejected Richmond, Indiana State (they've had their one Larry Bird), and Lehigh.
>
> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Joe Thiegs" <thiegs at umn.edu>
> To: "Roy S. Lamberton" <rstetson at capps-assoc.com>
> Cc: <nwu-sports at tssi.com>
> Sent: Friday, February 10, 2012 10:04 AM
> Subject: Re: [NU Sports] Doncha Lovit?
>
>
>  One NU recruit is a forward out of the Twin Cities from Benilde-St.
>> Margaret's, Sanjay Lumpkin.  Here's a local article from last summer 
>> with an interview about his commitment to the 'Cats:
>>
>> http://stlouispark.patch.com/**articles/bsm-forward-lumpkin-**
>> makes-big-ten-choice<http://stlouispark.patch.com/articles/bsm-forwar
>> d-lumpkin-makes-big-ten-choice>
>>
>> -Joe
>> **
>>
>>
>> On Thu, Feb 9, 2012 at 10:10 PM, Roy S. Lamberton
>> <rstetson at capps-assoc.com>**wrote:
>>
>>  Whoever came up with the big "3" signs in front of the Wild Side was 
>> a
>>> genius. NU gets hot
>>> and there's this long line of 3's across the one end. Like the "K's" 
>>> they put up in baseball.
>>>
>>> But it was fun to watch the game, and watch the Cats win without 
>>> Shurna and Crawford having to score 25! A couple of weeks ago, BC 
>>> was complaining that he didn't have enough guys who could score - 
>>> Sobo was in a bit of a slowdown, and both centers were MIA on the 
>>> Box Score.
>>>
>>> Suddenly, here comes Hearne and Marco. I used to have a term in my 
>>> pregames for the guy on the other team who was known for shooting 
>>> 3's - called him the "Mad Bomber."
>>>
>>> Right now, the Cats have 5 guys who could qualify for that moniker.
>>> Amazing.
>>>
>>> One last thing, the TV guys kept talking about the kids who were 
>>> coming to Ioway next year. Nary a word about the signees BC has on 
>>> the hook, a couple who might start.
>>>
>>> rsl
>>>
>>> ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++**+++++++++++++++++++
>>> Opinions expressed above are mine alone and are not those of any 
>>> organizations of which I am a member.
>>> ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++**+++++++++++++++++++
>>> Roy S. Lamberton - Senior Associate.
>>> Computer Applications & Support Associates Coach Roy's Random 
>>> Thoughts - http://coachroy.org
>>> --------------------- Also ---------------------- "Commissioner" 
>>> Delaware American Legion Baseball Director Media Relations - Little 
>>> League  Senior League Softball World Series
>>> CTR2 USN (67-70) - CTRCS USNR (Ret) (64-67/70-95) Northwestern 
>>> University - Speech 1974 - Chi Phi: Pi 1974, KD 1968 Publisher 
>>> Emeritus: Purple Reign (Fox Sports) 
>>> ==============================**===================
>>> There is nothing wrong with America that the faith, love of freedom, 
>>> intelligence and energy of her citizens cannot cure - Dwight D. 
>>> Eisenhower =  =  =  =  =  =  =  =  =  =  =  =  =  =  =  =  = If we 
>>> become a country in which we say, 'Please, tell me how to live,' 
>>> We're Doomed!"
>>>                  -- Pete Hamill, "Prohibition"
>>> ===========  Go Cats -  Beat 'em All  ===========
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> ______________________________**_________________
>>> nwu-sports site list
>>> nwu-sports at tssi.com
>>> http://romaine.tssi.com/**mailman/listinfo/nwu-sports<http://romaine
>>> .tssi.com/mailman/listinfo/nwu-sports>
>>>
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From Willie.Weinbaum at espn.com  Sat Feb 11 07:42:48 2012
From: Willie.Weinbaum at espn.com (Weinbaum, Willie)
Date: Sat, 11 Feb 2012 08:42:48 -0500
Subject: [NU Sports] Jeremy Lin
In-Reply-To: <193678365-1328961782-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-568060138-@b11.c7.bise6.blackberry>
Message-ID: <1F89BB2CE7A5B94D969618E8CC769CC30147A028D1@XCHGBRS4.corp.espn.pvt>

Wish it had been Jeremy Nash for my Knicks.  But this Jeremy's a Lin-derella Story - - his Lin-fectious Lin-thusiasm is Lin-vigorating & Lin-spiring the players and the fans.  Lin-credible.

----- Original Message -----
From: hakirsch at aol.com [mailto:hakirsch at aol.com]
Sent: Saturday, February 11, 2012 07:03 AM
To: Harry <hakirsch at aol.com>; Roy S. Lamberton <rstetson at capps-assoc.com>; nwu-sports-bounces at tssi.com <nwu-sports-bounces at tssi.com>
Cc: nwu-sports at tssi.com <nwu-sports at tssi.com>
Subject: Re: [NU Sports] Jeremy Lin

Even Coach Fitz was quoted on his Twitter account saying it was great to see someone working hard on the court and saying the right things off of it.  A few weeks ago this guy was sleeping on his  teammate's couch.

Not sure if he will be a flash in the pan or not,but I had fun watching the game and found it easy to root for Lin and the Knicks last night (especially when they play the Lakers).

BTW the Knicks have both  Harvard and Stanford alums on their team now

Harry
Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry

-----Original Message-----
From: hakirsch at aol.com
Sender: nwu-sports-bounces at tssi.com
Date: Sat, 11 Feb 2012 02:33:01
To: Roy S. Lamberton<rstetson at capps-assoc.com>; <nwu-sports-bounces at tssi.com>; 'Joe Thiegs'<thiegs at umn.edu>; 'Dennis W. Brandt'<tbng at comcast.net>
Reply-To: hakirsch at aol.com
Cc: <nwu-sports at tssi.com>
Subject: Re: [NU Sports] Doncha Lovit?

Just watching the NYN and Linn.  Now why couldn't we have recruited that Harvard guy ?

Harry
Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry

-----Original Message-----
From: "Roy S. Lamberton" <rstetson at capps-assoc.com>
Sender: nwu-sports-bounces at tssi.com
Date: Fri, 10 Feb 2012 18:14:34
To: 'Joe Thiegs'<thiegs at umn.edu>; 'Dennis W. Brandt'<tbng at comcast.net>
Cc: <nwu-sports at tssi.com>
Subject: Re: [NU Sports] Doncha Lovit?

Do the guys who want to play for Duke or other super programs turn them down to come to
NU? With our "screwey" offense and 1-3-1 defense (where everyone else plays Man?)

It takes a certain mindset to come to NU and play roundball - you have to be somewhat
convinced that the NBA isn't in your future, but you can compete at the highest level and
(eventually) be an NCAA team every year.

No reason why we can't recruit like that - and BC's assistants are definitely bringing the
right kids to Evanston to talk to the coach.

rsl

+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
Opinions expressed above are mine alone and are not
those of any organizations of which I am a member.
+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
Roy S. Lamberton - Senior Associate.
Computer Applications & Support Associates
Coach Roy's Random Thoughts - http://coachroy.org
--------------------- Also ----------------------
"Commissioner" Delaware American Legion Baseball
Director Media Relations - Little League
  Senior League Softball World Series
CTR2 USN (67-70) - CTRCS USNR (Ret) (64-67/70-95)
Northwestern University - Speech 1974 -
Chi Phi: Pi 1974, KD 1968
Publisher Emeritus: Purple Reign (Fox Sports)
=================================================
There is nothing wrong with America that the faith,
love of freedom, intelligence and energy of her citizens
cannot cure - Dwight D. Eisenhower
=  =  =  =  =  =  =  =  =  =  =  =  =  =  =  =  =
If we become a country in which we say, 'Please,
tell me how to live,' We're Doomed!"
                   -- Pete Hamill, "Prohibition"
===========  Go Cats -  Beat 'em All  ===========


-----Original Message-----
From: nwu-sports-bounces at tssi.com [mailto:nwu-sports-bounces at tssi.com] On Behalf Of Joe
Thiegs
Sent: Friday, February 10, 2012 5:41 PM
To: Dennis W. Brandt
Cc: nwu-sports at tssi.com
Subject: Re: [NU Sports] Doncha Lovit?

Yeah, but don't forget about Holy Cross, American, and Drake.  ;)  No, he's not an
All-American, but neither are any of our other recruits.  I don't know how excited to get
about him either, but I did hear him mentioned on the news the other night, referred to as
"playing at Northwestern next year," amid highlights of him leading Benilde to a win.  He
seems like a good kid, and maybe he'll be another Shurna or Crawford.  -Joe
**

On Fri, Feb 10, 2012 at 4:13 PM, Dennis W. Brandt <tbng at comcast.net> wrote:

> I'd like to get giddy about Sanjay, but he didn't turn down Duke,
> North Carolina, Kentucky, or Syracuse to play for Northwestern.  He
> rejected Richmond, Indiana State (they've had their one Larry Bird), and Lehigh.
>
> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Joe Thiegs" <thiegs at umn.edu>
> To: "Roy S. Lamberton" <rstetson at capps-assoc.com>
> Cc: <nwu-sports at tssi.com>
> Sent: Friday, February 10, 2012 10:04 AM
> Subject: Re: [NU Sports] Doncha Lovit?
>
>
>  One NU recruit is a forward out of the Twin Cities from Benilde-St.
>> Margaret's, Sanjay Lumpkin.  Here's a local article from last summer
>> with an interview about his commitment to the 'Cats:
>>
>> http://stlouispark.patch.com/**articles/bsm-forward-lumpkin-**
>> makes-big-ten-choice<http://stlouispark.patch.com/articles/bsm-forwar
>> d-lumpkin-makes-big-ten-choice>
>>
>> -Joe
>> **
>>
>>
>> On Thu, Feb 9, 2012 at 10:10 PM, Roy S. Lamberton
>> <rstetson at capps-assoc.com>**wrote:
>>
>>  Whoever came up with the big "3" signs in front of the Wild Side was
>> a
>>> genius. NU gets hot
>>> and there's this long line of 3's across the one end. Like the "K's"
>>> they put up in baseball.
>>>
>>> But it was fun to watch the game, and watch the Cats win without
>>> Shurna and Crawford having to score 25! A couple of weeks ago, BC
>>> was complaining that he didn't have enough guys who could score -
>>> Sobo was in a bit of a slowdown, and both centers were MIA on the
>>> Box Score.
>>>
>>> Suddenly, here comes Hearne and Marco. I used to have a term in my
>>> pregames for the guy on the other team who was known for shooting
>>> 3's - called him the "Mad Bomber."
>>>
>>> Right now, the Cats have 5 guys who could qualify for that moniker.
>>> Amazing.
>>>
>>> One last thing, the TV guys kept talking about the kids who were
>>> coming to Ioway next year. Nary a word about the signees BC has on
>>> the hook, a couple who might start.
>>>
>>> rsl
>>>
>>> ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++**+++++++++++++++++++
>>> Opinions expressed above are mine alone and are not those of any
>>> organizations of which I am a member.
>>> ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++**+++++++++++++++++++
>>> Roy S. Lamberton - Senior Associate.
>>> Computer Applications & Support Associates Coach Roy's Random
>>> Thoughts - http://coachroy.org
>>> --------------------- Also ---------------------- "Commissioner"
>>> Delaware American Legion Baseball Director Media Relations - Little
>>> League  Senior League Softball World Series
>>> CTR2 USN (67-70) - CTRCS USNR (Ret) (64-67/70-95) Northwestern
>>> University - Speech 1974 - Chi Phi: Pi 1974, KD 1968 Publisher
>>> Emeritus: Purple Reign (Fox Sports)
>>> ==============================**===================
>>> There is nothing wrong with America that the faith, love of freedom,
>>> intelligence and energy of her citizens cannot cure - Dwight D.
>>> Eisenhower =  =  =  =  =  =  =  =  =  =  =  =  =  =  =  =  = If we
>>> become a country in which we say, 'Please, tell me how to live,'
>>> We're Doomed!"
>>>                  -- Pete Hamill, "Prohibition"
>>> ===========  Go Cats -  Beat 'em All  ===========
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> ______________________________**_________________
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>>> nwu-sports at tssi.com
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From: rstetson at capps-assoc.com (Roy S. Lamberton)
Date: Sat, 11 Feb 2012 09:49:08 -0500
Subject: [NU Sports] Jeremy Lin
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Paul knows all the stories of people in entertainment sleeping on someone's couch until
they got their first paycheck - "Key Money" Several top DJ's had stories about sleeping on
someone's couch for a month when they first came to NY Radio.

And on the east coast, most smart kids still want to go to Hah-vahd or Yale (or around
here Penn or State Penn)

Sometimes it is depressing.

rsl

+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
Opinions expressed above are mine alone and are not
those of any organizations of which I am a member.
+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
Roy S. Lamberton - Senior Associate.
Computer Applications & Support Associates
Coach Roy's Random Thoughts - http://coachroy.org
--------------------- Also ----------------------
"Commissioner" Delaware American Legion Baseball
Director Media Relations - Little League 
  Senior League Softball World Series
CTR2 USN (67-70) - CTRCS USNR (Ret) (64-67/70-95)
Northwestern University - Speech 1974 - 
Chi Phi: Pi 1974, KD 1968
Publisher Emeritus: Purple Reign (Fox Sports)
=================================================
There is nothing wrong with America that the faith, 
love of freedom, intelligence and energy of her citizens 
cannot cure - Dwight D. Eisenhower
=  =  =  =  =  =  =  =  =  =  =  =  =  =  =  =  =
If we become a country in which we say, 'Please, 
tell me how to live,' We're Doomed!"
                   -- Pete Hamill, "Prohibition"
===========  Go Cats -? Beat 'em All  ===========

Even Coach Fitz was quoted on his Twitter account saying it was great to see someone
working hard on the court and saying the right things off of it.  A few weeks ago this guy
was sleeping on his  teammate's couch. 



From neonrye at aol.com  Sat Feb 11 10:43:21 2012
From: neonrye at aol.com (neonrye at aol.com)
Date: Sat, 11 Feb 2012 16:43:21 +0000
Subject: [NU Sports] Jeremy Lin
In-Reply-To: <1F89BB2CE7A5B94D969618E8CC769CC30147A028D1@XCHGBRS4.corp.espn.pvt>
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Wiilie,
Jeremy has seemingly made our Knicks Lin-vinceable.  Hopefully, when Anthony and Amare return, they won't "Melo" out.
Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry

-----Original Message-----
From: "Weinbaum, Willie" <Willie.Weinbaum at espn.com>
Sender: nwu-sports-bounces at tssi.com
Date: Sat, 11 Feb 2012 08:42:48 
To: 'nwu-sports-bounces at tssi.com'<nwu-sports-bounces at tssi.com>
Cc: 'nwu-sports at tssi.com'<nwu-sports at tssi.com>
Subject: Re: [NU Sports] Jeremy Lin

Wish it had been Jeremy Nash for my Knicks.  But this Jeremy's a Lin-derella Story - - his Lin-fectious Lin-thusiasm is Lin-vigorating & Lin-spiring the players and the fans.  Lin-credible.

----- Original Message -----
From: hakirsch at aol.com [mailto:hakirsch at aol.com]
Sent: Saturday, February 11, 2012 07:03 AM
To: Harry <hakirsch at aol.com>; Roy S. Lamberton <rstetson at capps-assoc.com>; nwu-sports-bounces at tssi.com <nwu-sports-bounces at tssi.com>
Cc: nwu-sports at tssi.com <nwu-sports at tssi.com>
Subject: Re: [NU Sports] Jeremy Lin

Even Coach Fitz was quoted on his Twitter account saying it was great to see someone working hard on the court and saying the right things off of it.  A few weeks ago this guy was sleeping on his  teammate's couch.

Not sure if he will be a flash in the pan or not,but I had fun watching the game and found it easy to root for Lin and the Knicks last night (especially when they play the Lakers).

BTW the Knicks have both  Harvard and Stanford alums on their team now

Harry
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-----Original Message-----
From: hakirsch at aol.com
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Date: Sat, 11 Feb 2012 02:33:01
To: Roy S. Lamberton<rstetson at capps-assoc.com>; <nwu-sports-bounces at tssi.com>; 'Joe Thiegs'<thiegs at umn.edu>; 'Dennis W. Brandt'<tbng at comcast.net>
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Cc: <nwu-sports at tssi.com>
Subject: Re: [NU Sports] Doncha Lovit?

Just watching the NYN and Linn.  Now why couldn't we have recruited that Harvard guy ?

Harry
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-----Original Message-----
From: "Roy S. Lamberton" <rstetson at capps-assoc.com>
Sender: nwu-sports-bounces at tssi.com
Date: Fri, 10 Feb 2012 18:14:34
To: 'Joe Thiegs'<thiegs at umn.edu>; 'Dennis W. Brandt'<tbng at comcast.net>
Cc: <nwu-sports at tssi.com>
Subject: Re: [NU Sports] Doncha Lovit?

Do the guys who want to play for Duke or other super programs turn them down to come to
NU? With our "screwey" offense and 1-3-1 defense (where everyone else plays Man?)

It takes a certain mindset to come to NU and play roundball - you have to be somewhat
convinced that the NBA isn't in your future, but you can compete at the highest level and
(eventually) be an NCAA team every year.

No reason why we can't recruit like that - and BC's assistants are definitely bringing the
right kids to Evanston to talk to the coach.

rsl

+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
Opinions expressed above are mine alone and are not
those of any organizations of which I am a member.
+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
Roy S. Lamberton - Senior Associate.
Computer Applications & Support Associates
Coach Roy's Random Thoughts - http://coachroy.org
--------------------- Also ----------------------
"Commissioner" Delaware American Legion Baseball
Director Media Relations - Little League
  Senior League Softball World Series
CTR2 USN (67-70) - CTRCS USNR (Ret) (64-67/70-95)
Northwestern University - Speech 1974 -
Chi Phi: Pi 1974, KD 1968
Publisher Emeritus: Purple Reign (Fox Sports)
=================================================
There is nothing wrong with America that the faith,
love of freedom, intelligence and energy of her citizens
cannot cure - Dwight D. Eisenhower
=  =  =  =  =  =  =  =  =  =  =  =  =  =  =  =  =
If we become a country in which we say, 'Please,
tell me how to live,' We're Doomed!"
                   -- Pete Hamill, "Prohibition"
===========  Go Cats -  Beat 'em All  ===========


-----Original Message-----
From: nwu-sports-bounces at tssi.com [mailto:nwu-sports-bounces at tssi.com] On Behalf Of Joe
Thiegs
Sent: Friday, February 10, 2012 5:41 PM
To: Dennis W. Brandt
Cc: nwu-sports at tssi.com
Subject: Re: [NU Sports] Doncha Lovit?

Yeah, but don't forget about Holy Cross, American, and Drake.  ;)  No, he's not an
All-American, but neither are any of our other recruits.  I don't know how excited to get
about him either, but I did hear him mentioned on the news the other night, referred to as
"playing at Northwestern next year," amid highlights of him leading Benilde to a win.  He
seems like a good kid, and maybe he'll be another Shurna or Crawford.  -Joe
**

On Fri, Feb 10, 2012 at 4:13 PM, Dennis W. Brandt <tbng at comcast.net> wrote:

> I'd like to get giddy about Sanjay, but he didn't turn down Duke,
> North Carolina, Kentucky, or Syracuse to play for Northwestern.  He
> rejected Richmond, Indiana State (they've had their one Larry Bird), and Lehigh.
>
> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Joe Thiegs" <thiegs at umn.edu>
> To: "Roy S. Lamberton" <rstetson at capps-assoc.com>
> Cc: <nwu-sports at tssi.com>
> Sent: Friday, February 10, 2012 10:04 AM
> Subject: Re: [NU Sports] Doncha Lovit?
>
>
>  One NU recruit is a forward out of the Twin Cities from Benilde-St.
>> Margaret's, Sanjay Lumpkin.  Here's a local article from last summer
>> with an interview about his commitment to the 'Cats:
>>
>> http://stlouispark.patch.com/**articles/bsm-forward-lumpkin-**
>> makes-big-ten-choice<http://stlouispark.patch.com/articles/bsm-forwar
>> d-lumpkin-makes-big-ten-choice>
>>
>> -Joe
>> **
>>
>>
>> On Thu, Feb 9, 2012 at 10:10 PM, Roy S. Lamberton
>> <rstetson at capps-assoc.com>**wrote:
>>
>>  Whoever came up with the big "3" signs in front of the Wild Side was
>> a
>>> genius. NU gets hot
>>> and there's this long line of 3's across the one end. Like the "K's"
>>> they put up in baseball.
>>>
>>> But it was fun to watch the game, and watch the Cats win without
>>> Shurna and Crawford having to score 25! A couple of weeks ago, BC
>>> was complaining that he didn't have enough guys who could score -
>>> Sobo was in a bit of a slowdown, and both centers were MIA on the
>>> Box Score.
>>>
>>> Suddenly, here comes Hearne and Marco. I used to have a term in my
>>> pregames for the guy on the other team who was known for shooting
>>> 3's - called him the "Mad Bomber."
>>>
>>> Right now, the Cats have 5 guys who could qualify for that moniker.
>>> Amazing.
>>>
>>> One last thing, the TV guys kept talking about the kids who were
>>> coming to Ioway next year. Nary a word about the signees BC has on
>>> the hook, a couple who might start.
>>>
>>> rsl
>>>
>>> ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++**+++++++++++++++++++
>>> Opinions expressed above are mine alone and are not those of any
>>> organizations of which I am a member.
>>> ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++**+++++++++++++++++++
>>> Roy S. Lamberton - Senior Associate.
>>> Computer Applications & Support Associates Coach Roy's Random
>>> Thoughts - http://coachroy.org
>>> --------------------- Also ---------------------- "Commissioner"
>>> Delaware American Legion Baseball Director Media Relations - Little
>>> League  Senior League Softball World Series
>>> CTR2 USN (67-70) - CTRCS USNR (Ret) (64-67/70-95) Northwestern
>>> University - Speech 1974 - Chi Phi: Pi 1974, KD 1968 Publisher
>>> Emeritus: Purple Reign (Fox Sports)
>>> ==============================**===================
>>> There is nothing wrong with America that the faith, love of freedom,
>>> intelligence and energy of her citizens cannot cure - Dwight D.
>>> Eisenhower =  =  =  =  =  =  =  =  =  =  =  =  =  =  =  =  = If we
>>> become a country in which we say, 'Please, tell me how to live,'
>>> We're Doomed!"
>>>                  -- Pete Hamill, "Prohibition"
>>> ===========  Go Cats -  Beat 'em All  ===========
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
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From neonrye at aol.com  Sat Feb 11 11:01:48 2012
From: neonrye at aol.com (neonrye at aol.com)
Date: Sat, 11 Feb 2012 17:01:48 +0000
Subject: [NU Sports] Jeremy Lin
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Just betrayed my NU education with a Lin-excusable spelling error, which Willie properly pointed out to me.
Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry

-----Original Message-----
From: neonrye at aol.com
Sender: nwu-sports-bounces at tssi.com
Date: Sat, 11 Feb 2012 16:43:21 
To: Weinbaum, Willie<Willie.Weinbaum at espn.com>; <nwu-sports-bounces at tssi.com>
Reply-To: neonrye at aol.com
Cc: 'nwu-sports at tssi.com'<nwu-sports at tssi.com>
Subject: Re: [NU Sports] Jeremy Lin

Wiilie,
Jeremy has seemingly made our Knicks Lin-vinceable.  Hopefully, when Anthony and Amare return, they won't "Melo" out.
Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry

-----Original Message-----
From: "Weinbaum, Willie" <Willie.Weinbaum at espn.com>
Sender: nwu-sports-bounces at tssi.com
Date: Sat, 11 Feb 2012 08:42:48 
To: 'nwu-sports-bounces at tssi.com'<nwu-sports-bounces at tssi.com>
Cc: 'nwu-sports at tssi.com'<nwu-sports at tssi.com>
Subject: Re: [NU Sports] Jeremy Lin

Wish it had been Jeremy Nash for my Knicks.  But this Jeremy's a Lin-derella Story - - his Lin-fectious Lin-thusiasm is Lin-vigorating & Lin-spiring the players and the fans.  Lin-credible.

----- Original Message -----
From: hakirsch at aol.com [mailto:hakirsch at aol.com]
Sent: Saturday, February 11, 2012 07:03 AM
To: Harry <hakirsch at aol.com>; Roy S. Lamberton <rstetson at capps-assoc.com>; nwu-sports-bounces at tssi.com <nwu-sports-bounces at tssi.com>
Cc: nwu-sports at tssi.com <nwu-sports at tssi.com>
Subject: Re: [NU Sports] Jeremy Lin

Even Coach Fitz was quoted on his Twitter account saying it was great to see someone working hard on the court and saying the right things off of it.  A few weeks ago this guy was sleeping on his  teammate's couch.

Not sure if he will be a flash in the pan or not,but I had fun watching the game and found it easy to root for Lin and the Knicks last night (especially when they play the Lakers).

BTW the Knicks have both  Harvard and Stanford alums on their team now

Harry
Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry

-----Original Message-----
From: hakirsch at aol.com
Sender: nwu-sports-bounces at tssi.com
Date: Sat, 11 Feb 2012 02:33:01
To: Roy S. Lamberton<rstetson at capps-assoc.com>; <nwu-sports-bounces at tssi.com>; 'Joe Thiegs'<thiegs at umn.edu>; 'Dennis W. Brandt'<tbng at comcast.net>
Reply-To: hakirsch at aol.com
Cc: <nwu-sports at tssi.com>
Subject: Re: [NU Sports] Doncha Lovit?

Just watching the NYN and Linn.  Now why couldn't we have recruited that Harvard guy ?

Harry
Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry

-----Original Message-----
From: "Roy S. Lamberton" <rstetson at capps-assoc.com>
Sender: nwu-sports-bounces at tssi.com
Date: Fri, 10 Feb 2012 18:14:34
To: 'Joe Thiegs'<thiegs at umn.edu>; 'Dennis W. Brandt'<tbng at comcast.net>
Cc: <nwu-sports at tssi.com>
Subject: Re: [NU Sports] Doncha Lovit?

Do the guys who want to play for Duke or other super programs turn them down to come to
NU? With our "screwey" offense and 1-3-1 defense (where everyone else plays Man?)

It takes a certain mindset to come to NU and play roundball - you have to be somewhat
convinced that the NBA isn't in your future, but you can compete at the highest level and
(eventually) be an NCAA team every year.

No reason why we can't recruit like that - and BC's assistants are definitely bringing the
right kids to Evanston to talk to the coach.

rsl

+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
Opinions expressed above are mine alone and are not
those of any organizations of which I am a member.
+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
Roy S. Lamberton - Senior Associate.
Computer Applications & Support Associates
Coach Roy's Random Thoughts - http://coachroy.org
--------------------- Also ----------------------
"Commissioner" Delaware American Legion Baseball
Director Media Relations - Little League
  Senior League Softball World Series
CTR2 USN (67-70) - CTRCS USNR (Ret) (64-67/70-95)
Northwestern University - Speech 1974 -
Chi Phi: Pi 1974, KD 1968
Publisher Emeritus: Purple Reign (Fox Sports)
=================================================
There is nothing wrong with America that the faith,
love of freedom, intelligence and energy of her citizens
cannot cure - Dwight D. Eisenhower
=  =  =  =  =  =  =  =  =  =  =  =  =  =  =  =  =
If we become a country in which we say, 'Please,
tell me how to live,' We're Doomed!"
                   -- Pete Hamill, "Prohibition"
===========  Go Cats -  Beat 'em All  ===========


-----Original Message-----
From: nwu-sports-bounces at tssi.com [mailto:nwu-sports-bounces at tssi.com] On Behalf Of Joe
Thiegs
Sent: Friday, February 10, 2012 5:41 PM
To: Dennis W. Brandt
Cc: nwu-sports at tssi.com
Subject: Re: [NU Sports] Doncha Lovit?

Yeah, but don't forget about Holy Cross, American, and Drake.  ;)  No, he's not an
All-American, but neither are any of our other recruits.  I don't know how excited to get
about him either, but I did hear him mentioned on the news the other night, referred to as
"playing at Northwestern next year," amid highlights of him leading Benilde to a win.  He
seems like a good kid, and maybe he'll be another Shurna or Crawford.  -Joe
**

On Fri, Feb 10, 2012 at 4:13 PM, Dennis W. Brandt <tbng at comcast.net> wrote:

> I'd like to get giddy about Sanjay, but he didn't turn down Duke,
> North Carolina, Kentucky, or Syracuse to play for Northwestern.  He
> rejected Richmond, Indiana State (they've had their one Larry Bird), and Lehigh.
>
> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Joe Thiegs" <thiegs at umn.edu>
> To: "Roy S. Lamberton" <rstetson at capps-assoc.com>
> Cc: <nwu-sports at tssi.com>
> Sent: Friday, February 10, 2012 10:04 AM
> Subject: Re: [NU Sports] Doncha Lovit?
>
>
>  One NU recruit is a forward out of the Twin Cities from Benilde-St.
>> Margaret's, Sanjay Lumpkin.  Here's a local article from last summer
>> with an interview about his commitment to the 'Cats:
>>
>> http://stlouispark.patch.com/**articles/bsm-forward-lumpkin-**
>> makes-big-ten-choice<http://stlouispark.patch.com/articles/bsm-forwar
>> d-lumpkin-makes-big-ten-choice>
>>
>> -Joe
>> **
>>
>>
>> On Thu, Feb 9, 2012 at 10:10 PM, Roy S. Lamberton
>> <rstetson at capps-assoc.com>**wrote:
>>
>>  Whoever came up with the big "3" signs in front of the Wild Side was
>> a
>>> genius. NU gets hot
>>> and there's this long line of 3's across the one end. Like the "K's"
>>> they put up in baseball.
>>>
>>> But it was fun to watch the game, and watch the Cats win without
>>> Shurna and Crawford having to score 25! A couple of weeks ago, BC
>>> was complaining that he didn't have enough guys who could score -
>>> Sobo was in a bit of a slowdown, and both centers were MIA on the
>>> Box Score.
>>>
>>> Suddenly, here comes Hearne and Marco. I used to have a term in my
>>> pregames for the guy on the other team who was known for shooting
>>> 3's - called him the "Mad Bomber."
>>>
>>> Right now, the Cats have 5 guys who could qualify for that moniker.
>>> Amazing.
>>>
>>> One last thing, the TV guys kept talking about the kids who were
>>> coming to Ioway next year. Nary a word about the signees BC has on
>>> the hook, a couple who might start.
>>>
>>> rsl
>>>
>>> ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++**+++++++++++++++++++
>>> Opinions expressed above are mine alone and are not those of any
>>> organizations of which I am a member.
>>> ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++**+++++++++++++++++++
>>> Roy S. Lamberton - Senior Associate.
>>> Computer Applications & Support Associates Coach Roy's Random
>>> Thoughts - http://coachroy.org
>>> --------------------- Also ---------------------- "Commissioner"
>>> Delaware American Legion Baseball Director Media Relations - Little
>>> League  Senior League Softball World Series
>>> CTR2 USN (67-70) - CTRCS USNR (Ret) (64-67/70-95) Northwestern
>>> University - Speech 1974 - Chi Phi: Pi 1974, KD 1968 Publisher
>>> Emeritus: Purple Reign (Fox Sports)
>>> ==============================**===================
>>> There is nothing wrong with America that the faith, love of freedom,
>>> intelligence and energy of her citizens cannot cure - Dwight D.
>>> Eisenhower =  =  =  =  =  =  =  =  =  =  =  =  =  =  =  =  = If we
>>> become a country in which we say, 'Please, tell me how to live,'
>>> We're Doomed!"
>>>                  -- Pete Hamill, "Prohibition"
>>> ===========  Go Cats -  Beat 'em All  ===========
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
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From rstetson at capps-assoc.com  Sat Feb 11 11:04:29 2012
From: rstetson at capps-assoc.com (rstetson at capps-assoc.com)
Date: Sat, 11 Feb 2012 12:04:29 -0500
Subject: [NU Sports] Jeremy Lin
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Sent: Sat, Feb 11, 2012 16:43:21 GMT+00:00
Subject: Re: [NU Sports] Jeremy Lin

Wiilie,
Jeremy has seemingly made our Knicks Lin-vinceable.  Hopefully, when Anthony  
and Amare return, they won't "Melo" out.
Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry

-----Original Message-----
From: "Weinbaum, Willie" <Willie.Weinbaum at espn.com>
Sender: nwu-sports-bounces at tssi.com
Date: Sat, 11 Feb 2012 08:42:48 
To: 'nwu-sports-bounces at tssi.com'<nwu-sports-bounces at tssi.com>
Cc: 'nwu-sports at tssi.com'<nwu-sports at tssi.com>
Subject: Re: [NU Sports] Jeremy Lin

Wish it had been Jeremy Nash for my Knicks.  But this Jeremy's a Lin-derella  
Story - - his Lin-fectious Lin-thusiasm is Lin-vigorating & Lin-spiring the  
players and the fans.  Lin-credible.

----- Original Message -----
From: hakirsch at aol.com [mailto:hakirsch at aol.com]
Sent: Saturday, February 11, 2012 07:03 AM
To: Harry <hakirsch at aol.com>; Roy S. Lamberton <rstetson at capps-assoc.com>;  
nwu-sports-bounces at tssi.com <nwu-sports-bounces at tssi.com>
Cc: nwu-sports at tssi.com <nwu-sports at tssi.com>
Subject: Re: [NU Sports] Jeremy Lin

Even Coach Fitz was quoted on his Twitter account saying it was great to see  
someone working hard on the court and saying the right things off of it.  A  
few weeks ago this guy was sleeping on his  teammate's couch.

Not sure if he will be a flash in the pan or not,but I had fun watching the  
game and found it easy to root for Lin and the Knicks last night (especially  
when they play the Lakers).

BTW the Knicks have both  Harvard and Stanford alums on their team now

Harry
Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry

-----Original Message-----
From: hakirsch at aol.com
Sender: nwu-sports-bounces at tssi.com
Date: Sat, 11 Feb 2012 02:33:01
To: Roy S. Lamberton<rstetson at capps-assoc.com>;  
<nwu-sports-bounces at tssi.com>; 'Joe Thiegs'<thiegs at umn.edu>; 'Dennis W.  
Brandt'<tbng at comcast.net>
Reply-To: hakirsch at aol.com
Cc: <nwu-sports at tssi.com>
Subject: Re: [NU Sports] Doncha Lovit?

Just watching the NYN and Linn.  Now why couldn't we have recruited that  
Harvard guy ?

Harry
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-----Original Message-----
From: "Roy S. Lamberton" <rstetson at capps-assoc.com>
Sender: nwu-sports-bounces at tssi.com
Date: Fri, 10 Feb 2012 18:14:34
To: 'Joe Thiegs'<thiegs at umn.edu>; 'Dennis W. Brandt'<tbng at comcast.net>
Cc: <nwu-sports at tssi.com>
Subject: Re: [NU Sports] Doncha Lovit?

Do the guys who want to play for Duke or other super programs turn them down  
to come to
NU? With our "screwey" offense and 1-3-1 defense (where everyone else plays  
Man?)

It takes a certain mindset to come to NU and play roundball - you have to be  
somewhat
convinced that the NBA isn't in your future, but you can compete at the  
highest level and
(eventually) be an NCAA team every year.

No reason why we can't recruit like that - and BC's assistants are  
definitely bringing the
right kids to Evanston to talk to the coach.

rsl

+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
Opinions expressed above are mine alone and are not
those of any organizations of which I am a member.
+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
Roy S. Lamberton - Senior Associate.
Computer Applications & Support Associates
Coach Roy's Random Thoughts - http://coachroy.org
--------------------- Also ----------------------
"Commissioner" Delaware American Legion Baseball
Director Media Relations - Little League
  Senior League Softball World Series
CTR2 USN (67-70) - CTRCS USNR (Ret) (64-67/70-95)
Northwestern University - Speech 1974 -
Chi Phi: Pi 1974, KD 1968
Publisher Emeritus: Purple Reign (Fox Sports)
=================================================
There is nothing wrong with America that the faith,
love of freedom, intelligence and energy of her citizens
cannot cure - Dwight D. Eisenhower
=  =  =  =  =  =  =  =  =  =  =  =  =  =  =  =  =
If we become a country in which we say, 'Please,
tell me how to live,' We're Doomed!"
                   -- Pete Hamill, "Prohibition"
===========  Go Cats -  Beat 'em All  ===========


-----Original Message-----
From: nwu-sports-bounces at tssi.com [mailto:nwu-sports-bounces at tssi.com] On  
Behalf Of Joe
Thiegs
Sent: Friday, February 10, 2012 5:41 PM
To: Dennis W. Brandt
Cc: nwu-sports at tssi.com
Subject: Re: [NU Sports] Doncha Lovit?

Yeah, but don't forget about Holy Cross, American, and Drake.  ;)  No, he's  
not an
All-American, but neither are any of our other recruits.  I don't know how  
excited to get
about him either, but I did hear him mentioned on the news the other night,  
referred to as
"playing at Northwestern next year," amid highlights of him leading Benilde  
to a win.  He
seems like a good kid, and maybe he'll be another Shurna or Crawford.  -Joe
**

On Fri, Feb 10, 2012 at 4:13 PM, Dennis W. Brandt <tbng at comcast.net> wrote:

> I'd like to get giddy about Sanjay, but he didn't turn down Duke,
> North Carolina, Kentucky, or Syracuse to play for Northwestern.  He
> rejected Richmond, Indiana State (they've had their one Larry Bird), and  
Lehigh.
>
> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Joe Thiegs" <thiegs at umn.edu>
> To: "Roy S. Lamberton" <rstetson at capps-assoc.com>
> Cc: <nwu-sports at tssi.com>
> Sent: Friday, February 10, 2012 10:04 AM
> Subject: Re: [NU Sports] Doncha Lovit?
>
>
>  One NU recruit is a forward out of the Twin Cities from Benilde-St.
>> Margaret's, Sanjay Lumpkin.  Here's a local article from last summer
>> with an interview about his commitment to the 'Cats:
>>
>> http://stlouispark.patch.com/**articles/bsm-forward-lumpkin-**
>> makes-big-ten-choice<http://stlouispark.patch.com/articles/bsm-forwar
>> d-lumpkin-makes-big-ten-choice>
>>
>> -Joe
>> **
>>
>>
>> On Thu, Feb 9, 2012 at 10:10 PM, Roy S. Lamberton
>> <rstetson at capps-assoc.com>**wrote:
>>
>>  Whoever came up with the big "3" signs in front of the Wild Side was
>> a
>>> genius. NU gets hot
>>> and there's this long line of 3's across the one end. Like the "K's"
>>> they put up in baseball.
>>>
>>> But it was fun to watch the game, and watch the Cats win without
>>> Shurna and Crawford having to score 25! A couple of weeks ago, BC
>>> was complaining that he didn't have enough guys who could score -
>>> Sobo was in a bit of a slowdown, and both centers were MIA on the
>>> Box Score.
>>>
>>> Suddenly, here comes Hearne and Marco. I used to have a term in my
>>> pregames for the guy on the other team who was known for shooting
>>> 3's - called him the "Mad Bomber."
>>>
>>> Right now, the Cats have 5 guys who could qualify for that moniker.
>>> Amazing.
>>>
>>> One last thing, the TV guys kept talking about the kids who were
>>> coming to Ioway next year. Nary a word about the signees BC has on
>>> the hook, a couple who might start.
>>>
>>> rsl
>>>
>>> ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++**+++++++++++++++++++
>>> Opinions expressed above are mine alone and are not those of any
>>> organizations of which I am a member.
>>> ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++**+++++++++++++++++++
>>> Roy S. Lamberton - Senior Associate.
>>> Computer Applications & Support Associates Coach Roy's Random
>>> Thoughts - http://coachroy.org
>>> --------------------- Also ---------------------- "Commissioner"
>>> Delaware American Legion Baseball Director Media Relations - Little
>>> League  Senior League Softball World Series
>>> CTR2 USN (67-70) - CTRCS USNR (Ret) (64-67/70-95) Northwestern
>>> University - Speech 1974 - Chi Phi: Pi 1974, KD 1968 Publisher
>>> Emeritus: Purple Reign (Fox Sports)
>>> ==============================**===================
>>> There is nothing wrong with America that the faith, love of freedom,
>>> intelligence and energy of her citizens cannot cure - Dwight D.
>>> Eisenhower =  =  =  =  =  =  =  =  =  =  =  =  =  =  =  =  = If we
>>> become a country in which we say, 'Please, tell me how to live,'
>>> We're Doomed!"
>>>                  -- Pete Hamill, "Prohibition"
>>> ===========  Go Cats -  Beat 'em All  ===========
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
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From rstetson at capps-assoc.com  Sat Feb 11 11:07:55 2012
From: rstetson at capps-assoc.com (rstetson at capps-assoc.com)
Date: Sat, 11 Feb 2012 12:07:55 -0500
Subject: [NU Sports] Jeremy Lin
In-Reply-To: <838460443-1328978465-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-523050721-@b5.c19.bise6.blackberry>
References: <193678365-1328961782-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-568060138-@b11.c7.bise6.blackberry>
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Message-ID: <87bce995-8ae6-4b84-bf7d-ef7a7590a284@blur>

When did Stephen Pastis take over the Knicks mindset?  

Paul should like Mr. Pastis [pearls before Swine] since he was a Lawyer b4  
cartooning.

Rsl
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-----Original message-----
From: neonrye at aol.com
To: "Weinbaum, Willie" <Willie.Weinbaum at espn.com>,   
nwu-sports-bounces at tssi.com
Cc: "'nwu-sports at tssi.com'" <nwu-sports at tssi.com>
Sent: Sat, Feb 11, 2012 16:43:21 GMT+00:00
Subject: Re: [NU Sports] Jeremy Lin

Wiilie,
Jeremy has seemingly made our Knicks Lin-vinceable.  Hopefully, when Anthony  
and Amare return, they won't "Melo" out.
Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry

-----Original Message-----
From: "Weinbaum, Willie" <Willie.Weinbaum at espn.com>
Sender: nwu-sports-bounces at tssi.com
Date: Sat, 11 Feb 2012 08:42:48 
To: 'nwu-sports-bounces at tssi.com'<nwu-sports-bounces at tssi.com>
Cc: 'nwu-sports at tssi.com'<nwu-sports at tssi.com>
Subject: Re: [NU Sports] Jeremy Lin

Wish it had been Jeremy Nash for my Knicks.  But this Jeremy's a Lin-derella  
Story - - his Lin-fectious Lin-thusiasm is Lin-vigorating & Lin-spiring the  
players and the fans.  Lin-credible.

----- Original Message -----
From: hakirsch at aol.com [mailto:hakirsch at aol.com]
Sent: Saturday, February 11, 2012 07:03 AM
To: Harry <hakirsch at aol.com>; Roy S. Lamberton <rstetson at capps-assoc.com>;  
nwu-sports-bounces at tssi.com <nwu-sports-bounces at tssi.com>
Cc: nwu-sports at tssi.com <nwu-sports at tssi.com>
Subject: Re: [NU Sports] Jeremy Lin

Even Coach Fitz was quoted on his Twitter account saying it was great to see  
someone working hard on the court and saying the right things off of it.  A  
few weeks ago this guy was sleeping on his  teammate's couch.

Not sure if he will be a flash in the pan or not,but I had fun watching the  
game and found it easy to root for Lin and the Knicks last night (especially  
when they play the Lakers).

BTW the Knicks have both  Harvard and Stanford alums on their team now

Harry
Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry

-----Original Message-----
From: hakirsch at aol.com
Sender: nwu-sports-bounces at tssi.com
Date: Sat, 11 Feb 2012 02:33:01
To: Roy S. Lamberton<rstetson at capps-assoc.com>;  
<nwu-sports-bounces at tssi.com>; 'Joe Thiegs'<thiegs at umn.edu>; 'Dennis W.  
Brandt'<tbng at comcast.net>
Reply-To: hakirsch at aol.com
Cc: <nwu-sports at tssi.com>
Subject: Re: [NU Sports] Doncha Lovit?

Just watching the NYN and Linn.  Now why couldn't we have recruited that  
Harvard guy ?

Harry
Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry

-----Original Message-----
From: "Roy S. Lamberton" <rstetson at capps-assoc.com>
Sender: nwu-sports-bounces at tssi.com
Date: Fri, 10 Feb 2012 18:14:34
To: 'Joe Thiegs'<thiegs at umn.edu>; 'Dennis W. Brandt'<tbng at comcast.net>
Cc: <nwu-sports at tssi.com>
Subject: Re: [NU Sports] Doncha Lovit?

Do the guys who want to play for Duke or other super programs turn them down  
to come to
NU? With our "screwey" offense and 1-3-1 defense (where everyone else plays  
Man?)

It takes a certain mindset to come to NU and play roundball - you have to be  
somewhat
convinced that the NBA isn't in your future, but you can compete at the  
highest level and
(eventually) be an NCAA team every year.

No reason why we can't recruit like that - and BC's assistants are  
definitely bringing the
right kids to Evanston to talk to the coach.

rsl

+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
Opinions expressed above are mine alone and are not
those of any organizations of which I am a member.
+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
Roy S. Lamberton - Senior Associate.
Computer Applications & Support Associates
Coach Roy's Random Thoughts - http://coachroy.org
--------------------- Also ----------------------
"Commissioner" Delaware American Legion Baseball
Director Media Relations - Little League
  Senior League Softball World Series
CTR2 USN (67-70) - CTRCS USNR (Ret) (64-67/70-95)
Northwestern University - Speech 1974 -
Chi Phi: Pi 1974, KD 1968
Publisher Emeritus: Purple Reign (Fox Sports)
=================================================
There is nothing wrong with America that the faith,
love of freedom, intelligence and energy of her citizens
cannot cure - Dwight D. Eisenhower
=  =  =  =  =  =  =  =  =  =  =  =  =  =  =  =  =
If we become a country in which we say, 'Please,
tell me how to live,' We're Doomed!"
                   -- Pete Hamill, "Prohibition"
===========  Go Cats -  Beat 'em All  ===========


-----Original Message-----
From: nwu-sports-bounces at tssi.com [mailto:nwu-sports-bounces at tssi.com] On  
Behalf Of Joe
Thiegs
Sent: Friday, February 10, 2012 5:41 PM
To: Dennis W. Brandt
Cc: nwu-sports at tssi.com
Subject: Re: [NU Sports] Doncha Lovit?

Yeah, but don't forget about Holy Cross, American, and Drake.  ;)  No, he's  
not an
All-American, but neither are any of our other recruits.  I don't know how  
excited to get
about him either, but I did hear him mentioned on the news the other night,  
referred to as
"playing at Northwestern next year," amid highlights of him leading Benilde  
to a win.  He
seems like a good kid, and maybe he'll be another Shurna or Crawford.  -Joe
**

On Fri, Feb 10, 2012 at 4:13 PM, Dennis W. Brandt <tbng at comcast.net> wrote:

> I'd like to get giddy about Sanjay, but he didn't turn down Duke,
> North Carolina, Kentucky, or Syracuse to play for Northwestern.  He
> rejected Richmond, Indiana State (they've had their one Larry Bird), and  
Lehigh.
>
> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Joe Thiegs" <thiegs at umn.edu>
> To: "Roy S. Lamberton" <rstetson at capps-assoc.com>
> Cc: <nwu-sports at tssi.com>
> Sent: Friday, February 10, 2012 10:04 AM
> Subject: Re: [NU Sports] Doncha Lovit?
>
>
>  One NU recruit is a forward out of the Twin Cities from Benilde-St.
>> Margaret's, Sanjay Lumpkin.  Here's a local article from last summer
>> with an interview about his commitment to the 'Cats:
>>
>> http://stlouispark.patch.com/**articles/bsm-forward-lumpkin-**
>> makes-big-ten-choice<http://stlouispark.patch.com/articles/bsm-forwar
>> d-lumpkin-makes-big-ten-choice>
>>
>> -Joe
>> **
>>
>>
>> On Thu, Feb 9, 2012 at 10:10 PM, Roy S. Lamberton
>> <rstetson at capps-assoc.com>**wrote:
>>
>>  Whoever came up with the big "3" signs in front of the Wild Side was
>> a
>>> genius. NU gets hot
>>> and there's this long line of 3's across the one end. Like the "K's"
>>> they put up in baseball.
>>>
>>> But it was fun to watch the game, and watch the Cats win without
>>> Shurna and Crawford having to score 25! A couple of weeks ago, BC
>>> was complaining that he didn't have enough guys who could score -
>>> Sobo was in a bit of a slowdown, and both centers were MIA on the
>>> Box Score.
>>>
>>> Suddenly, here comes Hearne and Marco. I used to have a term in my
>>> pregames for the guy on the other team who was known for shooting
>>> 3's - called him the "Mad Bomber."
>>>
>>> Right now, the Cats have 5 guys who could qualify for that moniker.
>>> Amazing.
>>>
>>> One last thing, the TV guys kept talking about the kids who were
>>> coming to Ioway next year. Nary a word about the signees BC has on
>>> the hook, a couple who might start.
>>>
>>> rsl
>>>
>>> ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++**+++++++++++++++++++
>>> Opinions expressed above are mine alone and are not those of any
>>> organizations of which I am a member.
>>> ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++**+++++++++++++++++++
>>> Roy S. Lamberton - Senior Associate.
>>> Computer Applications & Support Associates Coach Roy's Random
>>> Thoughts - http://coachroy.org
>>> --------------------- Also ---------------------- "Commissioner"
>>> Delaware American Legion Baseball Director Media Relations - Little
>>> League  Senior League Softball World Series
>>> CTR2 USN (67-70) - CTRCS USNR (Ret) (64-67/70-95) Northwestern
>>> University - Speech 1974 - Chi Phi: Pi 1974, KD 1968 Publisher
>>> Emeritus: Purple Reign (Fox Sports)
>>> ==============================**===================
>>> There is nothing wrong with America that the faith, love of freedom,
>>> intelligence and energy of her citizens cannot cure - Dwight D.
>>> Eisenhower =  =  =  =  =  =  =  =  =  =  =  =  =  =  =  =  = If we
>>> become a country in which we say, 'Please, tell me how to live,'
>>> We're Doomed!"
>>>                  -- Pete Hamill, "Prohibition"
>>> ===========  Go Cats -  Beat 'em All  ===========
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> ______________________________**_________________
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>>> nwu-sports at tssi.com
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From rstetson at capps-assoc.com  Sat Feb 11 11:10:16 2012
From: rstetson at capps-assoc.com (rstetson at capps-assoc.com)
Date: Sat, 11 Feb 2012 12:10:16 -0500
Subject: [NU Sports] Jeremy Lin
In-Reply-To: <649230568-1328979569-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-1339142705-@b5.c19.bise6.blackberry>
References: <193678365-1328961782-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-568060138-@b11.c7.bise6.blackberry>
 <1F89BB2CE7A5B94D969618E8CC769CC30147A028D1@XCHGBRS4.corp.espn.pvt>
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Don't worry. The Knicks will figger out how to seize defeat from the jaws of  
victory by April....


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-----Original message-----
From: neonrye at aol.com
To: neonrye at aol.com, "Weinbaum, Willie" <Willie.Weinbaum at espn.com>,   
nwu-sports-bounces at tssi.com
Cc: "'nwu-sports at tssi.com'" <nwu-sports at tssi.com>
Sent: Sat, Feb 11, 2012 17:01:48 GMT+00:00
Subject: Re: [NU Sports] Jeremy Lin

Just betrayed my NU education with a Lin-excusable spelling error, which  
Willie properly pointed out to me.
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-----Original Message-----
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Sender: nwu-sports-bounces at tssi.com
Date: Sat, 11 Feb 2012 16:43:21 
To: Weinbaum, Willie<Willie.Weinbaum at espn.com>;  
<nwu-sports-bounces at tssi.com>
Reply-To: neonrye at aol.com
Cc: 'nwu-sports at tssi.com'<nwu-sports at tssi.com>
Subject: Re: [NU Sports] Jeremy Lin

Wiilie,
Jeremy has seemingly made our Knicks Lin-vinceable.  Hopefully, when Anthony  
and Amare return, they won't "Melo" out.
Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry

-----Original Message-----
From: "Weinbaum, Willie" <Willie.Weinbaum at espn.com>
Sender: nwu-sports-bounces at tssi.com
Date: Sat, 11 Feb 2012 08:42:48 
To: 'nwu-sports-bounces at tssi.com'<nwu-sports-bounces at tssi.com>
Cc: 'nwu-sports at tssi.com'<nwu-sports at tssi.com>
Subject: Re: [NU Sports] Jeremy Lin

Wish it had been Jeremy Nash for my Knicks.  But this Jeremy's a Lin-derella  
Story - - his Lin-fectious Lin-thusiasm is Lin-vigorating & Lin-spiring the  
players and the fans.  Lin-credible.

----- Original Message -----
From: hakirsch at aol.com [mailto:hakirsch at aol.com]
Sent: Saturday, February 11, 2012 07:03 AM
To: Harry <hakirsch at aol.com>; Roy S. Lamberton <rstetson at capps-assoc.com>;  
nwu-sports-bounces at tssi.com <nwu-sports-bounces at tssi.com>
Cc: nwu-sports at tssi.com <nwu-sports at tssi.com>
Subject: Re: [NU Sports] Jeremy Lin

Even Coach Fitz was quoted on his Twitter account saying it was great to see  
someone working hard on the court and saying the right things off of it.  A  
few weeks ago this guy was sleeping on his  teammate's couch.

Not sure if he will be a flash in the pan or not,but I had fun watching the  
game and found it easy to root for Lin and the Knicks last night (especially  
when they play the Lakers).

BTW the Knicks have both  Harvard and Stanford alums on their team now

Harry
Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry

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Sender: nwu-sports-bounces at tssi.com
Date: Sat, 11 Feb 2012 02:33:01
To: Roy S. Lamberton<rstetson at capps-assoc.com>;  
<nwu-sports-bounces at tssi.com>; 'Joe Thiegs'<thiegs at umn.edu>; 'Dennis W.  
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Subject: Re: [NU Sports] Doncha Lovit?

Just watching the NYN and Linn.  Now why couldn't we have recruited that  
Harvard guy ?

Harry
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-----Original Message-----
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Date: Fri, 10 Feb 2012 18:14:34
To: 'Joe Thiegs'<thiegs at umn.edu>; 'Dennis W. Brandt'<tbng at comcast.net>
Cc: <nwu-sports at tssi.com>
Subject: Re: [NU Sports] Doncha Lovit?

Do the guys who want to play for Duke or other super programs turn them down  
to come to
NU? With our "screwey" offense and 1-3-1 defense (where everyone else plays  
Man?)

It takes a certain mindset to come to NU and play roundball - you have to be  
somewhat
convinced that the NBA isn't in your future, but you can compete at the  
highest level and
(eventually) be an NCAA team every year.

No reason why we can't recruit like that - and BC's assistants are  
definitely bringing the
right kids to Evanston to talk to the coach.

rsl

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-----Original Message-----
From: nwu-sports-bounces at tssi.com [mailto:nwu-sports-bounces at tssi.com] On  
Behalf Of Joe
Thiegs
Sent: Friday, February 10, 2012 5:41 PM
To: Dennis W. Brandt
Cc: nwu-sports at tssi.com
Subject: Re: [NU Sports] Doncha Lovit?

Yeah, but don't forget about Holy Cross, American, and Drake.  ;)  No, he's  
not an
All-American, but neither are any of our other recruits.  I don't know how  
excited to get
about him either, but I did hear him mentioned on the news the other night,  
referred to as
"playing at Northwestern next year," amid highlights of him leading Benilde  
to a win.  He
seems like a good kid, and maybe he'll be another Shurna or Crawford.  -Joe
**

On Fri, Feb 10, 2012 at 4:13 PM, Dennis W. Brandt <tbng at comcast.net> wrote:

> I'd like to get giddy about Sanjay, but he didn't turn down Duke,
> North Carolina, Kentucky, or Syracuse to play for Northwestern.  He
> rejected Richmond, Indiana State (they've had their one Larry Bird), and  
Lehigh.
>
> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Joe Thiegs" <thiegs at umn.edu>
> To: "Roy S. Lamberton" <rstetson at capps-assoc.com>
> Cc: <nwu-sports at tssi.com>
> Sent: Friday, February 10, 2012 10:04 AM
> Subject: Re: [NU Sports] Doncha Lovit?
>
>
>  One NU recruit is a forward out of the Twin Cities from Benilde-St.
>> Margaret's, Sanjay Lumpkin.  Here's a local article from last summer
>> with an interview about his commitment to the 'Cats:
>>
>> http://stlouispark.patch.com/**articles/bsm-forward-lumpkin-**
>> makes-big-ten-choice<http://stlouispark.patch.com/articles/bsm-forwar
>> d-lumpkin-makes-big-ten-choice>
>>
>> -Joe
>> **
>>
>>
>> On Thu, Feb 9, 2012 at 10:10 PM, Roy S. Lamberton
>> <rstetson at capps-assoc.com>**wrote:
>>
>>  Whoever came up with the big "3" signs in front of the Wild Side was
>> a
>>> genius. NU gets hot
>>> and there's this long line of 3's across the one end. Like the "K's"
>>> they put up in baseball.
>>>
>>> But it was fun to watch the game, and watch the Cats win without
>>> Shurna and Crawford having to score 25! A couple of weeks ago, BC
>>> was complaining that he didn't have enough guys who could score -
>>> Sobo was in a bit of a slowdown, and both centers were MIA on the
>>> Box Score.
>>>
>>> Suddenly, here comes Hearne and Marco. I used to have a term in my
>>> pregames for the guy on the other team who was known for shooting
>>> 3's - called him the "Mad Bomber."
>>>
>>> Right now, the Cats have 5 guys who could qualify for that moniker.
>>> Amazing.
>>>
>>> One last thing, the TV guys kept talking about the kids who were
>>> coming to Ioway next year. Nary a word about the signees BC has on
>>> the hook, a couple who might start.
>>>
>>> rsl
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From Willie.Weinbaum at espn.com  Sat Feb 11 11:22:50 2012
From: Willie.Weinbaum at espn.com (Weinbaum, Willie)
Date: Sat, 11 Feb 2012 12:22:50 -0500
Subject: [NU Sports] NU alum Pat McGeehan's NY Times story Fri. on aspect of
 Jeremy Lin's sudden emergence
Message-ID: <1F89BB2CE7A5B94D969618E8CC769CC30147A028F2@XCHGBRS4.corp.espn.pvt>

http://mobile.nytimes.com/2012/02/10/nyregion/jeremy-lins-emergence-ignites-scramble-to-retail-his-jersey.xml


From neonrye at aol.com  Sat Feb 11 16:05:24 2012
From: neonrye at aol.com (neonrye at aol.com)
Date: Sat, 11 Feb 2012 17:05:24 -0500 (EST)
Subject: [NU Sports] Illini Coach on Hot Seat
Message-ID: <8CEB72063B204EE-794-8D69@web-mmc-d10.sysops.aol.com>


Looks like Bruce Weber's fanny is sizzling, as the Illini's AD is clearly not willing to give him a vote of confidence in the wake of a very disgruntled fan base.  Amazing what a loss at home to the Purple and White will do.  Unless Weber can rally the Illini (who are at 5-6 in the B1G, same as the 'Cats) to finish strongly, he looks like dead man walking, while Mr. Carmody has his team headed in the other direction and may be on his way to securing a contract extension, if NU can keep on keepin' on, hopefully all the way to the Dance.
Here's the story on Weber:
http://espn.go.com/chicago/ncb/story/_/id/7565454/illinois-fighting-illini-athletic-director-evaluate-basketball-coach-bruce-weber-season

From neonrye at aol.com  Sat Feb 11 16:20:30 2012
From: neonrye at aol.com (neonrye at aol.com)
Date: Sat, 11 Feb 2012 17:20:30 -0500 (EST)
Subject: [NU Sports] Bubble Watch
Message-ID: <8CEB7227F8CDED9-794-8E98@web-mmc-d10.sysops.aol.com>


Jerry Palm has NU on top of his "Bubble Watch" ranked teams at the moment:  http://www.cbssports.com/collegebasketball/bracketology/bubble-watch

Right behind us are the Boilers, so tomorrow's game is just HUGE.  If we can "Lin" (to use today's favorite word), we will take not just a "small step", but "one giant leap" towards a tourney berth.  As Willie Weinbaum wrote to me earlier today, if we can go 4-3 down the stretch (and then not completely flop in Indy at the BTT), we should be looking good for an invite.  Considering where we were a few short weeks ago, the skies are brightening.  If we can only get a little healthier, so we have some depth, and Carmody can play some match-ups, the news should be good, as the team finally seems to be learning how to win games, not give them away.  As the Giants showed in the NFL, once a team gets its mojo and confidence, and has some playmakers, it's hard to stop.  We always had the playmakers--Shurna and Crawford--and now the 'Cats are putting together the mojo and are gaining confidence, all at the right time.  I hate to get too far ahead of things here, but it's fun to at least get to play this game.  Usually, by the time mid-February rolls around, we are looking at either NIT or nothing (i.e., playing for pride).  By the way, when is Selection Sunday?????

Paul Levinson

From nolan at tssi.com  Sat Feb 11 18:11:51 2012
From: nolan at tssi.com (Mike Nolan)
Date: Sat, 11 Feb 2012 18:11:51 -0600 (CST)
Subject: [NU Sports] Illini Coach on Hot Seat
In-Reply-To: <8CEB72063B204EE-794-8D69@web-mmc-d10.sysops.aol.com>
Message-ID: <20120212001151.CD67165386@romaine.tssi.com>

The local papers are starting to suggest that Doc Sadler may be fired
at Nebraska, too.  (The Huskers lost to last-place Penn State today, 
their 4th straight defeat.)

However, apparently Sadler got a contract extension last year and
it might cost $3.4 million to buy him out.
--
Mike Nolan


From rstetson at capps-assoc.com  Sat Feb 11 18:21:07 2012
From: rstetson at capps-assoc.com (Roy S. Lamberton)
Date: Sat, 11 Feb 2012 19:21:07 -0500
Subject: [NU Sports] Bubble Watch
In-Reply-To: <8CEB7227F8CDED9-794-8E98@web-mmc-d10.sysops.aol.com>
References: <8CEB7227F8CDED9-794-8E98@web-mmc-d10.sysops.aol.com>
Message-ID: <003d01cce91c$37dd2e20$a7978a60$@com>

I think I read in the Trib that Sobo got fired up after reading Juice's comment about him
hitting the wall.

And I think BC was dropping hints about someone else stepping up and making shots.

Both Marco and Hearn appear to have listened, and Davide seems to be playing with a bit
more fire lately.

In any case, the 2nd half of the game with Iowa had some amazing ball recoveries, and guys
going for balls like we haven't seen in many many years. We have guys going way up for
rebounds, stuff Jitim used to do and we all know we haven't seen that in a while.

If we can just keep it up, through Winter finals, and hit dOSU with confidence, and who
knows. This team will let us forget Esch, and Juice, and Jitim, and Vedran, but hopefully
they'll all be courtside for the first round.

rsl

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--------------------- Also ----------------------
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Director Media Relations - Little League 
  Senior League Softball World Series
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Northwestern University - Speech 1974 - 
Chi Phi: Pi 1974, KD 1968
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love of freedom, intelligence and energy of her citizens 
cannot cure - Dwight D. Eisenhower
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tell me how to live,' We're Doomed!"
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-----Original Message-----
From: nwu-sports-bounces at tssi.com [mailto:nwu-sports-bounces at tssi.com] On Behalf Of
neonrye at aol.com
Sent: Saturday, February 11, 2012 5:21 PM
To: nwu-sports at tssi.com
Subject: [NU Sports] Bubble Watch


Jerry Palm has NU on top of his "Bubble Watch" ranked teams at the moment:
http://www.cbssports.com/collegebasketball/bracketology/bubble-watch

Right behind us are the Boilers, so tomorrow's game is just HUGE.  If we can "Lin" (to use
today's favorite word), we will take not just a "small step", but "one giant leap" towards
a tourney berth.  As Willie Weinbaum wrote to me earlier today, if we can go 4-3 down the
stretch (and then not completely flop in Indy at the BTT), we should be looking good for
an invite.  Considering where we were a few short weeks ago, the skies are brightening.
If we can only get a little healthier, so we have some depth, and Carmody can play some
match-ups, the news should be good, as the team finally seems to be learning how to win
games, not give them away.  As the Giants showed in the NFL, once a team gets its mojo and
confidence, and has some playmakers, it's hard to stop.  We always had the
playmakers--Shurna and Crawford--and now the 'Cats are putting together the mojo and are
gaining confidence, all at the right time.  I hate to get too far ahead of things here,
but it's fun to at le  ast get to play this game.  Usually, by the time mid-February rolls
around, we are looking at either NIT or nothing (i.e., playing for pride).  By the way,
when is Selection Sunday?????

Paul Levinson
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From Willie.Weinbaum at espn.com  Sun Feb 12 12:43:06 2012
From: Willie.Weinbaum at espn.com (Weinbaum, Willie)
Date: Sun, 12 Feb 2012 13:43:06 -0500
Subject: [NU Sports] 2 NUSports.com pieces - gd reading before tont's big
	game
Message-ID: <1F89BB2CE7A5B94D969618E8CC769CC30147A0292D@XCHGBRS4.corp.espn.pvt>

http://m.nusports.com/s/28380/68?showMore=true&idPassed=tag:www.nusports.com,2012:/blog//74.41226

http://m.nusports.com/s/28380/68?showMore=true&idPassed=tag:www.nusports.com,2012:/blog//74.41108


From thehaze at earthlink.net  Sun Feb 12 15:59:30 2012
From: thehaze at earthlink.net (Jim Bendat)
Date: Sun, 12 Feb 2012 13:59:30 -0800 (GMT-08:00)
Subject: [NU Sports] Bubble Watch
Message-ID: <27653094.1329083971069.JavaMail.root@wamui-bucket.atl.sa.earthlink.net>

Selection Sunday is March 11th. Same day as the Big Ten Tournament championship game.

-----Original Message-----
>From: neonrye at aol.com
>Sent: Feb 11, 2012 2:20 PM
>To: nwu-sports at tssi.com
>Subject: [NU Sports] Bubble Watch
>
>By the way, when is Selection Sunday?????
>
>Paul Levinson
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From rstetson at capps-assoc.com  Sun Feb 12 16:09:12 2012
From: rstetson at capps-assoc.com (Roy S. Lamberton)
Date: Sun, 12 Feb 2012 17:09:12 -0500
Subject: [NU Sports] Bubble Watch
In-Reply-To: <27653094.1329083971069.JavaMail.root@wamui-bucket.atl.sa.earthlink.net>
References: <27653094.1329083971069.JavaMail.root@wamui-bucket.atl.sa.earthlink.net>
Message-ID: <002e01cce9d2$f498cb80$ddca6280$@com>

You can pretty well bet that both teams in the final will be in the tournament.

rsl

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--------------------- Also ----------------------
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Director Media Relations - Little League 
  Senior League Softball World Series
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Northwestern University - Speech 1974 - 
Chi Phi: Pi 1974, KD 1968
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love of freedom, intelligence and energy of her citizens 
cannot cure - Dwight D. Eisenhower
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-----Original Message-----
From: nwu-sports-bounces at tssi.com [mailto:nwu-sports-bounces at tssi.com] On Behalf Of Jim
Bendat
Sent: Sunday, February 12, 2012 5:00 PM
To: nwu-sports at tssi.com
Subject: Re: [NU Sports] Bubble Watch

Selection Sunday is March 11th. Same day as the Big Ten Tournament championship game.

-----Original Message-----
>From: neonrye at aol.com
>Sent: Feb 11, 2012 2:20 PM
>To: nwu-sports at tssi.com
>Subject: [NU Sports] Bubble Watch
>
>By the way, when is Selection Sunday?????
>
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From tbng at comcast.net  Sun Feb 12 16:23:25 2012
From: tbng at comcast.net (Dennis W. Brandt)
Date: Sun, 12 Feb 2012 17:23:25 -0500
Subject: [NU Sports] Bubble Watch
References: <27653094.1329083971069.JavaMail.root@wamui-bucket.atl.sa.earthlink.net>
 <002e01cce9d2$f498cb80$ddca6280$@com>
Message-ID: <2014F4D60794431898BD81ED3B090576@dennismachine>

You can pretty well bet that both teams in the final will be in the 
tournament.

rsl

Not necessarily.  Indiana went to the championship game as a Cinderella a 
few years back, lost, and did not make the tournament if memory serves. 


From aaronsament at gmail.com  Sun Feb 12 16:33:57 2012
From: aaronsament at gmail.com (Aaron Ament)
Date: Sun, 12 Feb 2012 17:33:57 -0500
Subject: [NU Sports] Bubble Watch
In-Reply-To: <2014F4D60794431898BD81ED3B090576@dennismachine>
References: <27653094.1329083971069.JavaMail.root@wamui-bucket.atl.sa.earthlink.net>
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 <2014F4D60794431898BD81ED3B090576@dennismachine>
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I don't think that is accurate.  Indiana went to the Big Ten Finals I believe in 2001 and went on the the NCAA.



On Feb 12, 2012, at 5:23 PM, "Dennis W. Brandt" <tbng at comcast.net> wrote:

> You can pretty well bet that both teams in the final will be in the tournament.
> 
> rsl
> 
> Not necessarily.  Indiana went to the championship game as a Cinderella a few years back, lost, and did not make the tournament if memory serves. 
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From rstetson at capps-assoc.com  Sun Feb 12 16:47:00 2012
From: rstetson at capps-assoc.com (Roy S. Lamberton)
Date: Sun, 12 Feb 2012 17:47:00 -0500
Subject: [NU Sports] Sobo story on BTN in about 3 mins (5:50 ET)
Message-ID: <002f01cce9d8$3c0092a0$b401b7e0$@com>

On the pregame show on BTN

rsl

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--------------------- Also ----------------------
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Director Media Relations - Little League 
  Senior League Softball World Series
CTR2 USN (67-70) - CTRCS USNR (Ret) (64-67/70-95)
Northwestern University - Speech 1974 - 
Chi Phi: Pi 1974, KD 1968
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love of freedom, intelligence and energy of her citizens 
cannot cure - Dwight D. Eisenhower
=  =  =  =  =  =  =  =  =  =  =  =  =  =  =  =  =
If we become a country in which we say, 'Please, 
tell me how to live,' We're Doomed!"
                   -- Pete Hamill, "Prohibition"
===========  Go Cats -? Beat 'em All  ===========





From neonrye at aol.com  Sun Feb 12 18:35:38 2012
From: neonrye at aol.com (neonrye at aol.com)
Date: Mon, 13 Feb 2012 00:35:38 +0000
Subject: [NU Sports] 'Cats Hanging Tough
In-Reply-To: <002f01cce9d8$3c0092a0$b401b7e0$@com>
References: <002f01cce9d8$3c0092a0$b401b7e0$@com>
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Nice 6-0 run.  Midway through Second Half.  Up 1.  Can this be our fourth B1G win in row--for first time since 1969?!

Trey for PU, Sobo layup, Johnson teardrop--game is heating up--now down 2.
Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry

-----Original Message-----
From: "Roy S. Lamberton" <rstetson at capps-assoc.com>
Sender: nwu-sports-bounces at tssi.com
Date: Sun, 12 Feb 2012 17:47:00 
To: <nwu-sports at tssi.com>
Subject: [NU Sports] Sobo story on BTN in about 3 mins (5:50 ET)

On the pregame show on BTN

rsl

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--------------------- Also ----------------------
"Commissioner" Delaware American Legion Baseball
Director Media Relations - Little League 
  Senior League Softball World Series
CTR2 USN (67-70) - CTRCS USNR (Ret) (64-67/70-95)
Northwestern University - Speech 1974 - 
Chi Phi: Pi 1974, KD 1968
Publisher Emeritus: Purple Reign (Fox Sports)
=================================================
There is nothing wrong with America that the faith, 
love of freedom, intelligence and energy of her citizens 
cannot cure - Dwight D. Eisenhower
=  =  =  =  =  =  =  =  =  =  =  =  =  =  =  =  =
If we become a country in which we say, 'Please, 
tell me how to live,' We're Doomed!"
                   -- Pete Hamill, "Prohibition"
===========  Go Cats -? Beat 'em All  ===========




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From Willie.Weinbaum at espn.com  Sun Feb 12 18:35:47 2012
From: Willie.Weinbaum at espn.com (Weinbaum, Willie)
Date: Sun, 12 Feb 2012 19:35:47 -0500
Subject: [NU Sports] 'Cats Hanging Tough
In-Reply-To: <1847625141-1329093199-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-762197373-@b5.c19.bise6.blackberry>
References: <002f01cce9d8$3c0092a0$b401b7e0$@com>
 <1847625141-1329093199-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-762197373-@b5.c19.bise6.blackberry>
Message-ID: <1F89BB2CE7A5B94D969618E8CC769CC30147A08FC3@XCHGBRS4.corp.espn.pvt>

That's since 1967, if the info the telecast gave is correct. :)

This is so tense - - so much at stake and such agonizingly difficult play.  A game of fits and starts.


-----Original Message-----
From: nwu-sports-bounces at tssi.com [mailto:nwu-sports-bounces at tssi.com] On Behalf Of neonrye at aol.com
Sent: Sunday, February 12, 2012 7:36 PM
To: Roy S. Lamberton; nwu-sports-bounces at tssi.com; nwu-sports at tssi.com
Subject: [NU Sports] 'Cats Hanging Tough

Nice 6-0 run.  Midway through Second Half.  Up 1.  Can this be our fourth B1G win in row--for first time since 1969?!

Trey for PU, Sobo layup, Johnson teardrop--game is heating up--now down 2.
Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry

-----Original Message-----
From: "Roy S. Lamberton" <rstetson at capps-assoc.com>
Sender: nwu-sports-bounces at tssi.com
Date: Sun, 12 Feb 2012 17:47:00
To: <nwu-sports at tssi.com>
Subject: [NU Sports] Sobo story on BTN in about 3 mins (5:50 ET)

On the pregame show on BTN

rsl

+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
Opinions expressed above are mine alone and are not those of any organizations of which I am a member.
+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
Roy S. Lamberton - Senior Associate.
Computer Applications & Support Associates Coach Roy's Random Thoughts - http://coachroy.org
--------------------- Also ---------------------- "Commissioner" Delaware American Legion Baseball Director Media Relations - Little League
  Senior League Softball World Series
CTR2 USN (67-70) - CTRCS USNR (Ret) (64-67/70-95) Northwestern University - Speech 1974 - Chi Phi: Pi 1974, KD 1968 Publisher Emeritus: Purple Reign (Fox Sports) =================================================
There is nothing wrong with America that the faith, love of freedom, intelligence and energy of her citizens cannot cure - Dwight D. Eisenhower =  =  =  =  =  =  =  =  =  =  =  =  =  =  =  =  = If we become a country in which we say, 'Please, tell me how to live,' We're Doomed!"
                   -- Pete Hamill, "Prohibition"
===========  Go Cats -  Beat 'em All  ===========




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From neonrye at aol.com  Sun Feb 12 18:50:14 2012
From: neonrye at aol.com (neonrye at aol.com)
Date: Mon, 13 Feb 2012 00:50:14 +0000
Subject: [NU Sports] 'Cats Hanging Tough
In-Reply-To: <1F89BB2CE7A5B94D969618E8CC769CC30147A08FC3@XCHGBRS4.corp.espn.pvt>
References: <002f01cce9d8$3c0092a0$b401b7e0$@com>
 <1847625141-1329093199-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-762197373-@b5.c19.bise6.blackberry>
 <1F89BB2CE7A5B94D969618E8CC769CC30147A08FC3@XCHGBRS4.corp.espn.pvt>
Message-ID: <729507347-1329094075-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-1047256816-@b5.c19.bise6.blackberry>

I meant'67--fumbling fingers on my BB.
Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry

-----Original Message-----
From: "Weinbaum, Willie" <Willie.Weinbaum at espn.com>
Sender: nwu-sports-bounces at tssi.com
Date: Sun, 12 Feb 2012 19:35:47 
To: nwu-sports-bounces at tssi.com<nwu-sports-bounces at tssi.com>; nwu-sports at tssi.com<nwu-sports at tssi.com>
Subject: Re: [NU Sports] 'Cats Hanging Tough

That's since 1967, if the info the telecast gave is correct. :)

This is so tense - - so much at stake and such agonizingly difficult play.  A game of fits and starts.


-----Original Message-----
From: nwu-sports-bounces at tssi.com [mailto:nwu-sports-bounces at tssi.com] On Behalf Of neonrye at aol.com
Sent: Sunday, February 12, 2012 7:36 PM
To: Roy S. Lamberton; nwu-sports-bounces at tssi.com; nwu-sports at tssi.com
Subject: [NU Sports] 'Cats Hanging Tough

Nice 6-0 run.  Midway through Second Half.  Up 1.  Can this be our fourth B1G win in row--for first time since 1969?!

Trey for PU, Sobo layup, Johnson teardrop--game is heating up--now down 2.
Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry

-----Original Message-----
From: "Roy S. Lamberton" <rstetson at capps-assoc.com>
Sender: nwu-sports-bounces at tssi.com
Date: Sun, 12 Feb 2012 17:47:00
To: <nwu-sports at tssi.com>
Subject: [NU Sports] Sobo story on BTN in about 3 mins (5:50 ET)

On the pregame show on BTN

rsl

+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
Opinions expressed above are mine alone and are not those of any organizations of which I am a member.
+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
Roy S. Lamberton - Senior Associate.
Computer Applications & Support Associates Coach Roy's Random Thoughts - http://coachroy.org
--------------------- Also ---------------------- "Commissioner" Delaware American Legion Baseball Director Media Relations - Little League
  Senior League Softball World Series
CTR2 USN (67-70) - CTRCS USNR (Ret) (64-67/70-95) Northwestern University - Speech 1974 - Chi Phi: Pi 1974, KD 1968 Publisher Emeritus: Purple Reign (Fox Sports) =================================================
There is nothing wrong with America that the faith, love of freedom, intelligence and energy of her citizens cannot cure - Dwight D. Eisenhower =  =  =  =  =  =  =  =  =  =  =  =  =  =  =  =  = If we become a country in which we say, 'Please, tell me how to live,' We're Doomed!"
                   -- Pete Hamill, "Prohibition"
===========  Go Cats -  Beat 'em All  ===========




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From neonrye at aol.com  Sun Feb 12 18:56:22 2012
From: neonrye at aol.com (neonrye at aol.com)
Date: Mon, 13 Feb 2012 00:56:22 +0000
Subject: [NU Sports] 'Cats Hanging Tough
In-Reply-To: <1F89BB2CE7A5B94D969618E8CC769CC30147A08FC3@XCHGBRS4.corp.espn.pvt>
References: <002f01cce9d8$3c0092a0$b401b7e0$@com>
 <1847625141-1329093199-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-762197373-@b5.c19.bise6.blackberry>
 <1F89BB2CE7A5B94D969618E8CC769CC30147A08FC3@XCHGBRS4.corp.espn.pvt>
Message-ID: <925277201-1329094443-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-2044891525-@b5.c19.bise6.blackberry>

The NU ship be sinkin'.  Down 8 with 2:03 left--and a turnover.
Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry

-----Original Message-----
From: "Weinbaum, Willie" <Willie.Weinbaum at espn.com>
Sender: nwu-sports-bounces at tssi.com
Date: Sun, 12 Feb 2012 19:35:47 
To: nwu-sports-bounces at tssi.com<nwu-sports-bounces at tssi.com>; nwu-sports at tssi.com<nwu-sports at tssi.com>
Subject: Re: [NU Sports] 'Cats Hanging Tough

That's since 1967, if the info the telecast gave is correct. :)

This is so tense - - so much at stake and such agonizingly difficult play.  A game of fits and starts.


-----Original Message-----
From: nwu-sports-bounces at tssi.com [mailto:nwu-sports-bounces at tssi.com] On Behalf Of neonrye at aol.com
Sent: Sunday, February 12, 2012 7:36 PM
To: Roy S. Lamberton; nwu-sports-bounces at tssi.com; nwu-sports at tssi.com
Subject: [NU Sports] 'Cats Hanging Tough

Nice 6-0 run.  Midway through Second Half.  Up 1.  Can this be our fourth B1G win in row--for first time since 1969?!

Trey for PU, Sobo layup, Johnson teardrop--game is heating up--now down 2.
Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry

-----Original Message-----
From: "Roy S. Lamberton" <rstetson at capps-assoc.com>
Sender: nwu-sports-bounces at tssi.com
Date: Sun, 12 Feb 2012 17:47:00
To: <nwu-sports at tssi.com>
Subject: [NU Sports] Sobo story on BTN in about 3 mins (5:50 ET)

On the pregame show on BTN

rsl

+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
Opinions expressed above are mine alone and are not those of any organizations of which I am a member.
+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
Roy S. Lamberton - Senior Associate.
Computer Applications & Support Associates Coach Roy's Random Thoughts - http://coachroy.org
--------------------- Also ---------------------- "Commissioner" Delaware American Legion Baseball Director Media Relations - Little League
  Senior League Softball World Series
CTR2 USN (67-70) - CTRCS USNR (Ret) (64-67/70-95) Northwestern University - Speech 1974 - Chi Phi: Pi 1974, KD 1968 Publisher Emeritus: Purple Reign (Fox Sports) =================================================
There is nothing wrong with America that the faith, love of freedom, intelligence and energy of her citizens cannot cure - Dwight D. Eisenhower =  =  =  =  =  =  =  =  =  =  =  =  =  =  =  =  = If we become a country in which we say, 'Please, tell me how to live,' We're Doomed!"
                   -- Pete Hamill, "Prohibition"
===========  Go Cats -  Beat 'em All  ===========




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From Willie.Weinbaum at espn.com  Sun Feb 12 19:00:43 2012
From: Willie.Weinbaum at espn.com (Weinbaum, Willie)
Date: Sun, 12 Feb 2012 20:00:43 -0500
Subject: [NU Sports] 'Cats Hanging Tough
In-Reply-To: <925277201-1329094443-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-2044891525-@b5.c19.bise6.blackberry>
References: <002f01cce9d8$3c0092a0$b401b7e0$@com>
 <1847625141-1329093199-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-762197373-@b5.c19.bise6.blackberry>
 <1F89BB2CE7A5B94D969618E8CC769CC30147A08FC3@XCHGBRS4.corp.espn.pvt>
 <925277201-1329094443-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-2044891525-@b5.c19.bise6.blackberry>
Message-ID: <1F89BB2CE7A5B94D969618E8CC769CC30147A08FD1@XCHGBRS4.corp.espn.pvt>

The streak will be 46 years.  An ugly night for the visitors.  Didn't avenge the tight loss to PU and didn't have a good game.   No doubt that the Cats cannot afford such a poor shooting night and they don't have a dependable solid force in the middle to contest PU's plays in the paint.  Got destroyed on the boards and from three-point land.

Most likely have to go 4-2 to make NCAAs.  The road is tough and got much tougher and a winnable game is scratched off the list.

-----Original Message-----
From: neonrye at aol.com [mailto:neonrye at aol.com] 
Sent: Sunday, February 12, 2012 7:56 PM
To: Weinbaum, Willie; nwu-sports-bounces at tssi.com; nwu-sports at tssi.com
Subject: Re: [NU Sports] 'Cats Hanging Tough

The NU ship be sinkin'.  Down 8 with 2:03 left--and a turnover.
Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry

-----Original Message-----
From: "Weinbaum, Willie" <Willie.Weinbaum at espn.com>
Sender: nwu-sports-bounces at tssi.com
Date: Sun, 12 Feb 2012 19:35:47 
To: nwu-sports-bounces at tssi.com<nwu-sports-bounces at tssi.com>; nwu-sports at tssi.com<nwu-sports at tssi.com>
Subject: Re: [NU Sports] 'Cats Hanging Tough

That's since 1967, if the info the telecast gave is correct. :)

This is so tense - - so much at stake and such agonizingly difficult play.  A game of fits and starts.


-----Original Message-----
From: nwu-sports-bounces at tssi.com [mailto:nwu-sports-bounces at tssi.com] On Behalf Of neonrye at aol.com
Sent: Sunday, February 12, 2012 7:36 PM
To: Roy S. Lamberton; nwu-sports-bounces at tssi.com; nwu-sports at tssi.com
Subject: [NU Sports] 'Cats Hanging Tough

Nice 6-0 run.  Midway through Second Half.  Up 1.  Can this be our fourth B1G win in row--for first time since 1969?!

Trey for PU, Sobo layup, Johnson teardrop--game is heating up--now down 2.
Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry

-----Original Message-----
From: "Roy S. Lamberton" <rstetson at capps-assoc.com>
Sender: nwu-sports-bounces at tssi.com
Date: Sun, 12 Feb 2012 17:47:00
To: <nwu-sports at tssi.com>
Subject: [NU Sports] Sobo story on BTN in about 3 mins (5:50 ET)

On the pregame show on BTN

rsl

+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
Opinions expressed above are mine alone and are not those of any organizations of which I am a member.
+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
Roy S. Lamberton - Senior Associate.
Computer Applications & Support Associates Coach Roy's Random Thoughts - http://coachroy.org
--------------------- Also ---------------------- "Commissioner" Delaware American Legion Baseball Director Media Relations - Little League
  Senior League Softball World Series
CTR2 USN (67-70) - CTRCS USNR (Ret) (64-67/70-95) Northwestern University - Speech 1974 - Chi Phi: Pi 1974, KD 1968 Publisher Emeritus: Purple Reign (Fox Sports) =================================================
There is nothing wrong with America that the faith, love of freedom, intelligence and energy of her citizens cannot cure - Dwight D. Eisenhower =  =  =  =  =  =  =  =  =  =  =  =  =  =  =  =  = If we become a country in which we say, 'Please, tell me how to live,' We're Doomed!"
                   -- Pete Hamill, "Prohibition"
===========  Go Cats -  Beat 'em All  ===========




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From Willie.Weinbaum at espn.com  Sun Feb 12 19:10:36 2012
From: Willie.Weinbaum at espn.com (Weinbaum, Willie)
Date: Sun, 12 Feb 2012 20:10:36 -0500
Subject: [NU Sports] 'Cats Hanging Tough
In-Reply-To: <1F89BB2CE7A5B94D969618E8CC769CC30147A08FD1@XCHGBRS4.corp.espn.pvt>
References: <002f01cce9d8$3c0092a0$b401b7e0$@com>
 <1847625141-1329093199-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-762197373-@b5.c19.bise6.blackberry>
 <1F89BB2CE7A5B94D969618E8CC769CC30147A08FC3@XCHGBRS4.corp.espn.pvt>
 <925277201-1329094443-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-2044891525-@b5.c19.bise6.blackberry>
 <1F89BB2CE7A5B94D969618E8CC769CC30147A08FD1@XCHGBRS4.corp.espn.pvt>
Message-ID: <1F89BB2CE7A5B94D969618E8CC769CC30147A08FD4@XCHGBRS4.corp.espn.pvt>

And, by the way, bad foul shooting continues to plague NU.  Shurna & Sobo almost made things interesting after Hummel missed two FTs...but this wasn't the Cats' night.

-----Original Message-----
From: nwu-sports-bounces at tssi.com [mailto:nwu-sports-bounces at tssi.com] On Behalf Of Weinbaum, Willie
Sent: Sunday, February 12, 2012 8:01 PM
To: nwu-sports-bounces at tssi.com; nwu-sports at tssi.com
Subject: Re: [NU Sports] 'Cats Hanging Tough

The streak will be 46 years.  An ugly night for the visitors.  Didn't avenge the tight loss to PU and didn't have a good game.   No doubt that the Cats cannot afford such a poor shooting night and they don't have a dependable solid force in the middle to contest PU's plays in the paint.  Got destroyed on the boards and from three-point land.

Most likely have to go 4-2 to make NCAAs.  The road is tough and got much tougher and a winnable game is scratched off the list.

-----Original Message-----
From: neonrye at aol.com [mailto:neonrye at aol.com] 
Sent: Sunday, February 12, 2012 7:56 PM
To: Weinbaum, Willie; nwu-sports-bounces at tssi.com; nwu-sports at tssi.com
Subject: Re: [NU Sports] 'Cats Hanging Tough

The NU ship be sinkin'.  Down 8 with 2:03 left--and a turnover.
Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry

-----Original Message-----
From: "Weinbaum, Willie" <Willie.Weinbaum at espn.com>
Sender: nwu-sports-bounces at tssi.com
Date: Sun, 12 Feb 2012 19:35:47 
To: nwu-sports-bounces at tssi.com<nwu-sports-bounces at tssi.com>; nwu-sports at tssi.com<nwu-sports at tssi.com>
Subject: Re: [NU Sports] 'Cats Hanging Tough

That's since 1967, if the info the telecast gave is correct. :)

This is so tense - - so much at stake and such agonizingly difficult play.  A game of fits and starts.


-----Original Message-----
From: nwu-sports-bounces at tssi.com [mailto:nwu-sports-bounces at tssi.com] On Behalf Of neonrye at aol.com
Sent: Sunday, February 12, 2012 7:36 PM
To: Roy S. Lamberton; nwu-sports-bounces at tssi.com; nwu-sports at tssi.com
Subject: [NU Sports] 'Cats Hanging Tough

Nice 6-0 run.  Midway through Second Half.  Up 1.  Can this be our fourth B1G win in row--for first time since 1969?!

Trey for PU, Sobo layup, Johnson teardrop--game is heating up--now down 2.
Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry

-----Original Message-----
From: "Roy S. Lamberton" <rstetson at capps-assoc.com>
Sender: nwu-sports-bounces at tssi.com
Date: Sun, 12 Feb 2012 17:47:00
To: <nwu-sports at tssi.com>
Subject: [NU Sports] Sobo story on BTN in about 3 mins (5:50 ET)

On the pregame show on BTN

rsl

+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
Opinions expressed above are mine alone and are not those of any organizations of which I am a member.
+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
Roy S. Lamberton - Senior Associate.
Computer Applications & Support Associates Coach Roy's Random Thoughts - http://coachroy.org
--------------------- Also ---------------------- "Commissioner" Delaware American Legion Baseball Director Media Relations - Little League
  Senior League Softball World Series
CTR2 USN (67-70) - CTRCS USNR (Ret) (64-67/70-95) Northwestern University - Speech 1974 - Chi Phi: Pi 1974, KD 1968 Publisher Emeritus: Purple Reign (Fox Sports) =================================================
There is nothing wrong with America that the faith, love of freedom, intelligence and energy of her citizens cannot cure - Dwight D. Eisenhower =  =  =  =  =  =  =  =  =  =  =  =  =  =  =  =  = If we become a country in which we say, 'Please, tell me how to live,' We're Doomed!"
                   -- Pete Hamill, "Prohibition"
===========  Go Cats -  Beat 'em All  ===========




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From hakirsch at aol.com  Sun Feb 12 19:16:22 2012
From: hakirsch at aol.com (hakirsch at aol.com)
Date: Mon, 13 Feb 2012 01:16:22 +0000
Subject: [NU Sports] 'Cats Hanging Tough
In-Reply-To: <1F89BB2CE7A5B94D969618E8CC769CC30147A08FD4@XCHGBRS4.corp.espn.pvt>
References: <002f01cce9d8$3c0092a0$b401b7e0$@com>
 <1847625141-1329093199-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-762197373-@b5.c19.bise6.blackberry>
 <1F89BB2CE7A5B94D969618E8CC769CC30147A08FC3@XCHGBRS4.corp.espn.pvt>
 <925277201-1329094443-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-2044891525-@b5.c19.bise6.blackberry>
 <1F89BB2CE7A5B94D969618E8CC769CC30147A08FD1@XCHGBRS4.corp.espn.pvt>
 <1F89BB2CE7A5B94D969618E8CC769CC30147A08FD4@XCHGBRS4.corp.espn.pvt>
Message-ID: <490454712-1329095782-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-1511707298-@b11.c7.bise6.blackberry>

In college , if you can't do it inside you have to make your treys and free throws. If you can't make your treys and FT then you need to do it inside

Harry
Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry

-----Original Message-----
From: "Weinbaum, Willie" <Willie.Weinbaum at espn.com>
Sender: nwu-sports-bounces at tssi.com
Date: Sun, 12 Feb 2012 20:10:36 
To: nwu-sports-bounces at tssi.com<nwu-sports-bounces at tssi.com>; nwu-sports at tssi.com<nwu-sports at tssi.com>
Subject: Re: [NU Sports] 'Cats Hanging Tough

And, by the way, bad foul shooting continues to plague NU.  Shurna & Sobo almost made things interesting after Hummel missed two FTs...but this wasn't the Cats' night.

-----Original Message-----
From: nwu-sports-bounces at tssi.com [mailto:nwu-sports-bounces at tssi.com] On Behalf Of Weinbaum, Willie
Sent: Sunday, February 12, 2012 8:01 PM
To: nwu-sports-bounces at tssi.com; nwu-sports at tssi.com
Subject: Re: [NU Sports] 'Cats Hanging Tough

The streak will be 46 years.  An ugly night for the visitors.  Didn't avenge the tight loss to PU and didn't have a good game.   No doubt that the Cats cannot afford such a poor shooting night and they don't have a dependable solid force in the middle to contest PU's plays in the paint.  Got destroyed on the boards and from three-point land.

Most likely have to go 4-2 to make NCAAs.  The road is tough and got much tougher and a winnable game is scratched off the list.

-----Original Message-----
From: neonrye at aol.com [mailto:neonrye at aol.com] 
Sent: Sunday, February 12, 2012 7:56 PM
To: Weinbaum, Willie; nwu-sports-bounces at tssi.com; nwu-sports at tssi.com
Subject: Re: [NU Sports] 'Cats Hanging Tough

The NU ship be sinkin'.  Down 8 with 2:03 left--and a turnover.
Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry

-----Original Message-----
From: "Weinbaum, Willie" <Willie.Weinbaum at espn.com>
Sender: nwu-sports-bounces at tssi.com
Date: Sun, 12 Feb 2012 19:35:47 
To: nwu-sports-bounces at tssi.com<nwu-sports-bounces at tssi.com>; nwu-sports at tssi.com<nwu-sports at tssi.com>
Subject: Re: [NU Sports] 'Cats Hanging Tough

That's since 1967, if the info the telecast gave is correct. :)

This is so tense - - so much at stake and such agonizingly difficult play.  A game of fits and starts.


-----Original Message-----
From: nwu-sports-bounces at tssi.com [mailto:nwu-sports-bounces at tssi.com] On Behalf Of neonrye at aol.com
Sent: Sunday, February 12, 2012 7:36 PM
To: Roy S. Lamberton; nwu-sports-bounces at tssi.com; nwu-sports at tssi.com
Subject: [NU Sports] 'Cats Hanging Tough

Nice 6-0 run.  Midway through Second Half.  Up 1.  Can this be our fourth B1G win in row--for first time since 1969?!

Trey for PU, Sobo layup, Johnson teardrop--game is heating up--now down 2.
Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry

-----Original Message-----
From: "Roy S. Lamberton" <rstetson at capps-assoc.com>
Sender: nwu-sports-bounces at tssi.com
Date: Sun, 12 Feb 2012 17:47:00
To: <nwu-sports at tssi.com>
Subject: [NU Sports] Sobo story on BTN in about 3 mins (5:50 ET)

On the pregame show on BTN

rsl

+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
Opinions expressed above are mine alone and are not those of any organizations of which I am a member.
+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
Roy S. Lamberton - Senior Associate.
Computer Applications & Support Associates Coach Roy's Random Thoughts - http://coachroy.org
--------------------- Also ---------------------- "Commissioner" Delaware American Legion Baseball Director Media Relations - Little League
  Senior League Softball World Series
CTR2 USN (67-70) - CTRCS USNR (Ret) (64-67/70-95) Northwestern University - Speech 1974 - Chi Phi: Pi 1974, KD 1968 Publisher Emeritus: Purple Reign (Fox Sports) =================================================
There is nothing wrong with America that the faith, love of freedom, intelligence and energy of her citizens cannot cure - Dwight D. Eisenhower =  =  =  =  =  =  =  =  =  =  =  =  =  =  =  =  = If we become a country in which we say, 'Please, tell me how to live,' We're Doomed!"
                   -- Pete Hamill, "Prohibition"
===========  Go Cats -  Beat 'em All  ===========




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From Willie.Weinbaum at espn.com  Sun Feb 12 19:21:03 2012
From: Willie.Weinbaum at espn.com (Weinbaum, Willie)
Date: Sun, 12 Feb 2012 20:21:03 -0500
Subject: [NU Sports] 'Cats Hanging Tough
In-Reply-To: <490454712-1329095782-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-1511707298-@b11.c7.bise6.blackberry>
References: <002f01cce9d8$3c0092a0$b401b7e0$@com>
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Message-ID: <1F89BB2CE7A5B94D969618E8CC769CC30147A08FD8@XCHGBRS4.corp.espn.pvt>

Stopping the other team and getting rebounds helps, too...and that didn't happen often enough tonight.  :)

-----Original Message-----
From: hakirsch at aol.com [mailto:hakirsch at aol.com] 
Sent: Sunday, February 12, 2012 8:16 PM
To: Weinbaum, Willie; nwu-sports-bounces at tssi.com; nwu-sports at tssi.com
Subject: Re: [NU Sports] 'Cats Hanging Tough

In college , if you can't do it inside you have to make your treys and free throws. If you can't make your treys and FT then you need to do it inside

Harry
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-----Original Message-----
From: "Weinbaum, Willie" <Willie.Weinbaum at espn.com>
Sender: nwu-sports-bounces at tssi.com
Date: Sun, 12 Feb 2012 20:10:36 
To: nwu-sports-bounces at tssi.com<nwu-sports-bounces at tssi.com>; nwu-sports at tssi.com<nwu-sports at tssi.com>
Subject: Re: [NU Sports] 'Cats Hanging Tough

And, by the way, bad foul shooting continues to plague NU.  Shurna & Sobo almost made things interesting after Hummel missed two FTs...but this wasn't the Cats' night.

-----Original Message-----
From: nwu-sports-bounces at tssi.com [mailto:nwu-sports-bounces at tssi.com] On Behalf Of Weinbaum, Willie
Sent: Sunday, February 12, 2012 8:01 PM
To: nwu-sports-bounces at tssi.com; nwu-sports at tssi.com
Subject: Re: [NU Sports] 'Cats Hanging Tough

The streak will be 46 years.  An ugly night for the visitors.  Didn't avenge the tight loss to PU and didn't have a good game.   No doubt that the Cats cannot afford such a poor shooting night and they don't have a dependable solid force in the middle to contest PU's plays in the paint.  Got destroyed on the boards and from three-point land.

Most likely have to go 4-2 to make NCAAs.  The road is tough and got much tougher and a winnable game is scratched off the list.

-----Original Message-----
From: neonrye at aol.com [mailto:neonrye at aol.com] 
Sent: Sunday, February 12, 2012 7:56 PM
To: Weinbaum, Willie; nwu-sports-bounces at tssi.com; nwu-sports at tssi.com
Subject: Re: [NU Sports] 'Cats Hanging Tough

The NU ship be sinkin'.  Down 8 with 2:03 left--and a turnover.
Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry

-----Original Message-----
From: "Weinbaum, Willie" <Willie.Weinbaum at espn.com>
Sender: nwu-sports-bounces at tssi.com
Date: Sun, 12 Feb 2012 19:35:47 
To: nwu-sports-bounces at tssi.com<nwu-sports-bounces at tssi.com>; nwu-sports at tssi.com<nwu-sports at tssi.com>
Subject: Re: [NU Sports] 'Cats Hanging Tough

That's since 1967, if the info the telecast gave is correct. :)

This is so tense - - so much at stake and such agonizingly difficult play.  A game of fits and starts.


-----Original Message-----
From: nwu-sports-bounces at tssi.com [mailto:nwu-sports-bounces at tssi.com] On Behalf Of neonrye at aol.com
Sent: Sunday, February 12, 2012 7:36 PM
To: Roy S. Lamberton; nwu-sports-bounces at tssi.com; nwu-sports at tssi.com
Subject: [NU Sports] 'Cats Hanging Tough

Nice 6-0 run.  Midway through Second Half.  Up 1.  Can this be our fourth B1G win in row--for first time since 1969?!

Trey for PU, Sobo layup, Johnson teardrop--game is heating up--now down 2.
Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry

-----Original Message-----
From: "Roy S. Lamberton" <rstetson at capps-assoc.com>
Sender: nwu-sports-bounces at tssi.com
Date: Sun, 12 Feb 2012 17:47:00
To: <nwu-sports at tssi.com>
Subject: [NU Sports] Sobo story on BTN in about 3 mins (5:50 ET)

On the pregame show on BTN

rsl

+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
Opinions expressed above are mine alone and are not those of any organizations of which I am a member.
+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
Roy S. Lamberton - Senior Associate.
Computer Applications & Support Associates Coach Roy's Random Thoughts - http://coachroy.org
--------------------- Also ---------------------- "Commissioner" Delaware American Legion Baseball Director Media Relations - Little League
  Senior League Softball World Series
CTR2 USN (67-70) - CTRCS USNR (Ret) (64-67/70-95) Northwestern University - Speech 1974 - Chi Phi: Pi 1974, KD 1968 Publisher Emeritus: Purple Reign (Fox Sports) =================================================
There is nothing wrong with America that the faith, love of freedom, intelligence and energy of her citizens cannot cure - Dwight D. Eisenhower =  =  =  =  =  =  =  =  =  =  =  =  =  =  =  =  = If we become a country in which we say, 'Please, tell me how to live,' We're Doomed!"
                   -- Pete Hamill, "Prohibition"
===========  Go Cats -  Beat 'em All  ===========




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From rstetson at capps-assoc.com  Sun Feb 12 19:25:52 2012
From: rstetson at capps-assoc.com (Roy S. Lamberton)
Date: Sun, 12 Feb 2012 20:25:52 -0500
Subject: [NU Sports] 'Cats Hanging Tough
In-Reply-To: <1F89BB2CE7A5B94D969618E8CC769CC30147A08FD1@XCHGBRS4.corp.espn.pvt>
References: <002f01cce9d8$3c0092a0$b401b7e0$@com>
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Message-ID: <005901cce9ee$6dfdf570$49f9e050$@com>

Today's game result makes Wednesday's game even more important.

rsl

+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
Opinions expressed above are mine alone and are not
those of any organizations of which I am a member.
+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
Roy S. Lamberton - Senior Associate.
Computer Applications & Support Associates
Coach Roy's Random Thoughts - http://coachroy.org
--------------------- Also ----------------------
"Commissioner" Delaware American Legion Baseball
Director Media Relations - Little League 
  Senior League Softball World Series
CTR2 USN (67-70) - CTRCS USNR (Ret) (64-67/70-95)
Northwestern University - Speech 1974 - 
Chi Phi: Pi 1974, KD 1968
Publisher Emeritus: Purple Reign (Fox Sports)
=================================================
There is nothing wrong with America that the faith, 
love of freedom, intelligence and energy of her citizens 
cannot cure - Dwight D. Eisenhower
=  =  =  =  =  =  =  =  =  =  =  =  =  =  =  =  =
If we become a country in which we say, 'Please, 
tell me how to live,' We're Doomed!"
                   -- Pete Hamill, "Prohibition"
===========  Go Cats -? Beat 'em All  ===========



-----Original Message-----
From: nwu-sports-bounces at tssi.com [mailto:nwu-sports-bounces at tssi.com] On Behalf Of
Weinbaum, Willie
Sent: Sunday, February 12, 2012 8:01 PM
To: nwu-sports-bounces at tssi.com; nwu-sports at tssi.com
Subject: Re: [NU Sports] 'Cats Hanging Tough

The streak will be 46 years.  An ugly night for the visitors.  Didn't avenge the tight
loss to PU and didn't have a good game.   No doubt that the Cats cannot afford such a poor
shooting night and they don't have a dependable solid force in the middle to contest PU's
plays in the paint.  Got destroyed on the boards and from three-point land.

Most likely have to go 4-2 to make NCAAs.  The road is tough and got much tougher and a
winnable game is scratched off the list.

-----Original Message-----
From: neonrye at aol.com [mailto:neonrye at aol.com] 
Sent: Sunday, February 12, 2012 7:56 PM
To: Weinbaum, Willie; nwu-sports-bounces at tssi.com; nwu-sports at tssi.com
Subject: Re: [NU Sports] 'Cats Hanging Tough

The NU ship be sinkin'.  Down 8 with 2:03 left--and a turnover.
Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry

-----Original Message-----
From: "Weinbaum, Willie" <Willie.Weinbaum at espn.com>
Sender: nwu-sports-bounces at tssi.com
Date: Sun, 12 Feb 2012 19:35:47 
To: nwu-sports-bounces at tssi.com<nwu-sports-bounces at tssi.com>;
nwu-sports at tssi.com<nwu-sports at tssi.com>
Subject: Re: [NU Sports] 'Cats Hanging Tough

That's since 1967, if the info the telecast gave is correct. :)

This is so tense - - so much at stake and such agonizingly difficult play.  A game of fits
and starts.


-----Original Message-----
From: nwu-sports-bounces at tssi.com [mailto:nwu-sports-bounces at tssi.com] On Behalf Of
neonrye at aol.com
Sent: Sunday, February 12, 2012 7:36 PM
To: Roy S. Lamberton; nwu-sports-bounces at tssi.com; nwu-sports at tssi.com
Subject: [NU Sports] 'Cats Hanging Tough

Nice 6-0 run.  Midway through Second Half.  Up 1.  Can this be our fourth B1G win in
row--for first time since 1969?!

Trey for PU, Sobo layup, Johnson teardrop--game is heating up--now down 2.
Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry

-----Original Message-----
From: "Roy S. Lamberton" <rstetson at capps-assoc.com>
Sender: nwu-sports-bounces at tssi.com
Date: Sun, 12 Feb 2012 17:47:00
To: <nwu-sports at tssi.com>
Subject: [NU Sports] Sobo story on BTN in about 3 mins (5:50 ET)

On the pregame show on BTN

rsl

+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
Opinions expressed above are mine alone and are not those of any organizations of which I
am a member.
+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
Roy S. Lamberton - Senior Associate.
Computer Applications & Support Associates Coach Roy's Random Thoughts -
http://coachroy.org
--------------------- Also ---------------------- "Commissioner" Delaware American Legion
Baseball Director Media Relations - Little League
  Senior League Softball World Series
CTR2 USN (67-70) - CTRCS USNR (Ret) (64-67/70-95) Northwestern University - Speech 1974 -
Chi Phi: Pi 1974, KD 1968 Publisher Emeritus: Purple Reign (Fox Sports)
=================================================
There is nothing wrong with America that the faith, love of freedom, intelligence and
energy of her citizens cannot cure - Dwight D. Eisenhower =  =  =  =  =  =  =  =  =  =  =
=  =  =  =  =  = If we become a country in which we say, 'Please, tell me how to live,'
We're Doomed!"
                   -- Pete Hamill, "Prohibition"
===========  Go Cats -  Beat 'em All  ===========




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From neonrye at aol.com  Sun Feb 12 19:37:15 2012
From: neonrye at aol.com (neonrye at aol.com)
Date: Mon, 13 Feb 2012 01:37:15 +0000
Subject: [NU Sports] 'Cats Hanging Tough
In-Reply-To: <1F89BB2CE7A5B94D969618E8CC769CC30147A08FD4@XCHGBRS4.corp.espn.pvt>
References: <002f01cce9d8$3c0092a0$b401b7e0$@com>
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Message-ID: <1515002746-1329096898-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-1793222353-@b5.c19.bise6.blackberry>

We have to hope that the Illini continue to slide, as Purdue now has the 2 wins "tiebreaker" in hand if it comes down to 'Cats and Boilers for a bracket slot.  At least we split with Illinois, and with Webber's job on the line the Illini may hopefully tighten up and keep losing.
Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry

-----Original Message-----
From: "Weinbaum, Willie" <Willie.Weinbaum at espn.com>
Sender: nwu-sports-bounces at tssi.com
Date: Sun, 12 Feb 2012 20:10:36 
To: nwu-sports-bounces at tssi.com<nwu-sports-bounces at tssi.com>; nwu-sports at tssi.com<nwu-sports at tssi.com>
Subject: Re: [NU Sports] 'Cats Hanging Tough

And, by the way, bad foul shooting continues to plague NU.  Shurna & Sobo almost made things interesting after Hummel missed two FTs...but this wasn't the Cats' night.

-----Original Message-----
From: nwu-sports-bounces at tssi.com [mailto:nwu-sports-bounces at tssi.com] On Behalf Of Weinbaum, Willie
Sent: Sunday, February 12, 2012 8:01 PM
To: nwu-sports-bounces at tssi.com; nwu-sports at tssi.com
Subject: Re: [NU Sports] 'Cats Hanging Tough

The streak will be 46 years.  An ugly night for the visitors.  Didn't avenge the tight loss to PU and didn't have a good game.   No doubt that the Cats cannot afford such a poor shooting night and they don't have a dependable solid force in the middle to contest PU's plays in the paint.  Got destroyed on the boards and from three-point land.

Most likely have to go 4-2 to make NCAAs.  The road is tough and got much tougher and a winnable game is scratched off the list.

-----Original Message-----
From: neonrye at aol.com [mailto:neonrye at aol.com] 
Sent: Sunday, February 12, 2012 7:56 PM
To: Weinbaum, Willie; nwu-sports-bounces at tssi.com; nwu-sports at tssi.com
Subject: Re: [NU Sports] 'Cats Hanging Tough

The NU ship be sinkin'.  Down 8 with 2:03 left--and a turnover.
Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry

-----Original Message-----
From: "Weinbaum, Willie" <Willie.Weinbaum at espn.com>
Sender: nwu-sports-bounces at tssi.com
Date: Sun, 12 Feb 2012 19:35:47 
To: nwu-sports-bounces at tssi.com<nwu-sports-bounces at tssi.com>; nwu-sports at tssi.com<nwu-sports at tssi.com>
Subject: Re: [NU Sports] 'Cats Hanging Tough

That's since 1967, if the info the telecast gave is correct. :)

This is so tense - - so much at stake and such agonizingly difficult play.  A game of fits and starts.


-----Original Message-----
From: nwu-sports-bounces at tssi.com [mailto:nwu-sports-bounces at tssi.com] On Behalf Of neonrye at aol.com
Sent: Sunday, February 12, 2012 7:36 PM
To: Roy S. Lamberton; nwu-sports-bounces at tssi.com; nwu-sports at tssi.com
Subject: [NU Sports] 'Cats Hanging Tough

Nice 6-0 run.  Midway through Second Half.  Up 1.  Can this be our fourth B1G win in row--for first time since 1969?!

Trey for PU, Sobo layup, Johnson teardrop--game is heating up--now down 2.
Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry

-----Original Message-----
From: "Roy S. Lamberton" <rstetson at capps-assoc.com>
Sender: nwu-sports-bounces at tssi.com
Date: Sun, 12 Feb 2012 17:47:00
To: <nwu-sports at tssi.com>
Subject: [NU Sports] Sobo story on BTN in about 3 mins (5:50 ET)

On the pregame show on BTN

rsl

+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
Opinions expressed above are mine alone and are not those of any organizations of which I am a member.
+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
Roy S. Lamberton - Senior Associate.
Computer Applications & Support Associates Coach Roy's Random Thoughts - http://coachroy.org
--------------------- Also ---------------------- "Commissioner" Delaware American Legion Baseball Director Media Relations - Little League
  Senior League Softball World Series
CTR2 USN (67-70) - CTRCS USNR (Ret) (64-67/70-95) Northwestern University - Speech 1974 - Chi Phi: Pi 1974, KD 1968 Publisher Emeritus: Purple Reign (Fox Sports) =================================================
There is nothing wrong with America that the faith, love of freedom, intelligence and energy of her citizens cannot cure - Dwight D. Eisenhower =  =  =  =  =  =  =  =  =  =  =  =  =  =  =  =  = If we become a country in which we say, 'Please, tell me how to live,' We're Doomed!"
                   -- Pete Hamill, "Prohibition"
===========  Go Cats -  Beat 'em All  ===========




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From bwdolphin146 at yahoo.com  Sun Feb 12 19:55:20 2012
From: bwdolphin146 at yahoo.com (Brad Wilson)
Date: Sun, 12 Feb 2012 17:55:20 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [NU Sports] rebounding disaster
Message-ID: <1329098120.11314.YahooMailNeo@web114704.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>

I noticed before the Purdont game that NU was ranked 324th in the nation in rebounding.

I realize the Princeton offense means rebounding can be a weakness -- though Pete Carril loved to tell of a game in the early 1970's when the Tigers (all hail their glorious win over Hahhavd Saturday!!) beat a Pete Newell-coached Cal squad despite being out-rebounded 51-19 -- but 324th is pathetic in ANY system.

The free throws continue to be a disaster and that is inexcusable -- but I think with just a bit more muscle on the boards NU would be NCAA-bound. 

Brad Wilson

From rstetson at capps-assoc.com  Sun Feb 12 20:17:17 2012
From: rstetson at capps-assoc.com (Roy S. Lamberton)
Date: Sun, 12 Feb 2012 21:17:17 -0500
Subject: [NU Sports] 'Cats Hanging Tough
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If it's any consolation, both Softball and Golf won this weekend, altho the Lady Court
Cats got pounded by State Penn.

rsl

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--------------------- Also ----------------------
"Commissioner" Delaware American Legion Baseball
Director Media Relations - Little League 
  Senior League Softball World Series
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Northwestern University - Speech 1974 - 
Chi Phi: Pi 1974, KD 1968
Publisher Emeritus: Purple Reign (Fox Sports)
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love of freedom, intelligence and energy of her citizens 
cannot cure - Dwight D. Eisenhower
=  =  =  =  =  =  =  =  =  =  =  =  =  =  =  =  =
If we become a country in which we say, 'Please, 
tell me how to live,' We're Doomed!"
                   -- Pete Hamill, "Prohibition"
===========  Go Cats -? Beat 'em All  ===========



-----Original Message-----
From: nwu-sports-bounces at tssi.com [mailto:nwu-sports-bounces at tssi.com] On Behalf Of
neonrye at aol.com
Sent: Sunday, February 12, 2012 8:37 PM
To: Weinbaum, Willie; nwu-sports-bounces at tssi.com; nwu-sports at tssi.com
Subject: Re: [NU Sports] 'Cats Hanging Tough

We have to hope that the Illini continue to slide, as Purdue now has the 2 wins
"tiebreaker" in hand if it comes down to 'Cats and Boilers for a bracket slot.  At least
we split with Illinois, and with Webber's job on the line the Illini may hopefully tighten
up and keep losing.
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-----Original Message-----
From: "Weinbaum, Willie" <Willie.Weinbaum at espn.com>
Sender: nwu-sports-bounces at tssi.com
Date: Sun, 12 Feb 2012 20:10:36 
To: nwu-sports-bounces at tssi.com<nwu-sports-bounces at tssi.com>;
nwu-sports at tssi.com<nwu-sports at tssi.com>
Subject: Re: [NU Sports] 'Cats Hanging Tough

And, by the way, bad foul shooting continues to plague NU.  Shurna & Sobo almost made
things interesting after Hummel missed two FTs...but this wasn't the Cats' night.

-----Original Message-----
From: nwu-sports-bounces at tssi.com [mailto:nwu-sports-bounces at tssi.com] On Behalf Of
Weinbaum, Willie
Sent: Sunday, February 12, 2012 8:01 PM
To: nwu-sports-bounces at tssi.com; nwu-sports at tssi.com
Subject: Re: [NU Sports] 'Cats Hanging Tough

The streak will be 46 years.  An ugly night for the visitors.  Didn't avenge the tight
loss to PU and didn't have a good game.   No doubt that the Cats cannot afford such a poor
shooting night and they don't have a dependable solid force in the middle to contest PU's
plays in the paint.  Got destroyed on the boards and from three-point land.

Most likely have to go 4-2 to make NCAAs.  The road is tough and got much tougher and a
winnable game is scratched off the list.

-----Original Message-----
From: neonrye at aol.com [mailto:neonrye at aol.com] 
Sent: Sunday, February 12, 2012 7:56 PM
To: Weinbaum, Willie; nwu-sports-bounces at tssi.com; nwu-sports at tssi.com
Subject: Re: [NU Sports] 'Cats Hanging Tough

The NU ship be sinkin'.  Down 8 with 2:03 left--and a turnover.
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-----Original Message-----
From: "Weinbaum, Willie" <Willie.Weinbaum at espn.com>
Sender: nwu-sports-bounces at tssi.com
Date: Sun, 12 Feb 2012 19:35:47 
To: nwu-sports-bounces at tssi.com<nwu-sports-bounces at tssi.com>;
nwu-sports at tssi.com<nwu-sports at tssi.com>
Subject: Re: [NU Sports] 'Cats Hanging Tough

That's since 1967, if the info the telecast gave is correct. :)

This is so tense - - so much at stake and such agonizingly difficult play.  A game of fits
and starts.


-----Original Message-----
From: nwu-sports-bounces at tssi.com [mailto:nwu-sports-bounces at tssi.com] On Behalf Of
neonrye at aol.com
Sent: Sunday, February 12, 2012 7:36 PM
To: Roy S. Lamberton; nwu-sports-bounces at tssi.com; nwu-sports at tssi.com
Subject: [NU Sports] 'Cats Hanging Tough

Nice 6-0 run.  Midway through Second Half.  Up 1.  Can this be our fourth B1G win in
row--for first time since 1969?!

Trey for PU, Sobo layup, Johnson teardrop--game is heating up--now down 2.
Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry

-----Original Message-----
From: "Roy S. Lamberton" <rstetson at capps-assoc.com>
Sender: nwu-sports-bounces at tssi.com
Date: Sun, 12 Feb 2012 17:47:00
To: <nwu-sports at tssi.com>
Subject: [NU Sports] Sobo story on BTN in about 3 mins (5:50 ET)

On the pregame show on BTN

rsl

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Opinions expressed above are mine alone and are not those of any organizations of which I
am a member.
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http://coachroy.org
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  Senior League Softball World Series
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Chi Phi: Pi 1974, KD 1968 Publisher Emeritus: Purple Reign (Fox Sports)
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=  =  =  =  =  = If we become a country in which we say, 'Please, tell me how to live,'
We're Doomed!"
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From tkmaycock at yahoo.com  Mon Feb 13 11:10:56 2012
From: tkmaycock at yahoo.com (Tom Maycock)
Date: Mon, 13 Feb 2012 09:10:56 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [NU Sports] rebounding disaster
In-Reply-To: <1329098120.11314.YahooMailNeo@web114704.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>
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> I realize the Princeton offense means rebounding can be a weakness

It may limit offensive rebounds, but I don't think it has anything inherently to do with defensive rebounding. And that was the big problem yesterday (and has been in many games).?

The 1-3-1 defense certainly doesn't lend itself to strong rebounding. It's just one of the compromises you accept when you play that defense--you're going to give up a few gimmes, and you hope that the turnovers and general mayhem you cause with the 1-3-1 more than offset that. The Cats did play man D for a while in the second half, which I think helped, but then as I recall they had issues staying on 3-point shooters.?


Also, the small lineup isn't conducive to strong rebounding either. (Well, at least theoretically--I think the Cats have actually rebounded better overall with their small lineup than with their "big" lineup). But strong rebounding from a small lineup requires extra-big doses of "want".?

To be fair, especially in the first half Purdue was really putting up some awful shots that lead to really long rebounds, so there was just some bad luck there.?However, rebounding is mostly about thinking ahead, being physical, and working your ass off. The Cats flat out didn't do a great job at those things for large portions of the game.?

Too bad, as it was another winnable game, in which the Cats played fairly well, but not great. As the announcers noted, the Cats failed to take advantage of Purdue's cold streak early, which left them no cushion when the Boilers got hot down the stretch.?

Mostly, it just makes the loss at home against Purdue all the more painful. The Cats *could* have won on Sunday, but they *should* have won that game at home. The 0-2 mark against Purdue may haunt them at selection time. Maybe they'll get a rematch in the Big Ten tourney?

Tom


From bwdolphin146 at yahoo.com  Mon Feb 13 12:07:18 2012
From: bwdolphin146 at yahoo.com (bwdolphin146 at yahoo.com)
Date: Mon, 13 Feb 2012 18:07:18 +0000
Subject: [NU Sports] I can't imagine any other team in the nation at any
	level in any sport
Message-ID: <126658151-1329156438-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-1851759937-@b17.c29.bise6.blackberry>

... Hasn't won four straight league games in 45 years. Pathetic, it really is. 

Spring football start yet? 

Bw

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From Jeff.Beamsley at covisint.com  Mon Feb 13 13:11:35 2012
From: Jeff.Beamsley at covisint.com (Beamsley, Jeff)
Date: Mon, 13 Feb 2012 14:11:35 -0500
Subject: [NU Sports] rebounding disaster
In-Reply-To: <1329153056.12410.YahooMailNeo@web161004.mail.bf1.yahoo.com>
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Couple of thoughts.

These teams are pretty evenly matched.  The loss at home was close.  Hummel had to make a great shot to win and did.  NU learned from that loss.  Carmody switched to a small lineup and won three games including a big win over Illinois.   

NU has to shoot the three well for this small lineup to work.  We didn't do that in the first half (4-11).  Purdude did a good job defending the three, but when we had open looks,  we didn't make 'em.  We also had a tough time finishing around the basket on the sorts of drives that should open up if the D is all out at the three point line.

The good news is that our defense in the first half was just as good as Purdew's, so Purdew shot just as badly as we did.  Other than rebounds, the first half stats were pretty even.

Both teams shot better in the second half but again were pretty close.  NU rebounded much better.  

Where this game was won, however, was at the free throw line.  Even though it seemed like they buried us in threes, we actually outplayed them on the floor.  They were 21-28 at the line in the second half to our 7-12.  The final margin of victory was 10.  

Bottom line is that Purdid was able to make us play their game (gritty physical grind it out) and last night, they were better at it.

Jeff

-----Original Message-----
From: nwu-sports-bounces at tssi.com [mailto:nwu-sports-bounces at tssi.com] On Behalf Of Tom Maycock
Sent: Monday, February 13, 2012 12:11 PM
To: nwu-sports at tssi.com
Subject: Re: [NU Sports] rebounding disaster

> I realize the Princeton offense means rebounding can be a weakness

It may limit offensive rebounds, but I don't think it has anything inherently to do with defensive rebounding. And that was the big problem yesterday (and has been in many games).?

The 1-3-1 defense certainly doesn't lend itself to strong rebounding. It's just one of the compromises you accept when you play that defense--you're going to give up a few gimmes, and you hope that the turnovers and general mayhem you cause with the 1-3-1 more than offset that. The Cats did play man D for a while in the second half, which I think helped, but then as I recall they had issues staying on 3-point shooters.?


Also, the small lineup isn't conducive to strong rebounding either. (Well, at least theoretically--I think the Cats have actually rebounded better overall with their small lineup than with their "big" lineup). But strong rebounding from a small lineup requires extra-big doses of "want".?

To be fair, especially in the first half Purdue was really putting up some awful shots that lead to really long rebounds, so there was just some bad luck there.?However, rebounding is mostly about thinking ahead, being physical, and working your ass off. The Cats flat out didn't do a great job at those things for large portions of the game.?

Too bad, as it was another winnable game, in which the Cats played fairly well, but not great. As the announcers noted, the Cats failed to take advantage of Purdue's cold streak early, which left them no cushion when the Boilers got hot down the stretch.?


Mostly, it just makes the loss at home against Purdue all the more painful. The Cats *could* have won on Sunday, but they *should* have won that game at home. The 0-2 mark against Purdue may haunt them at selection time. Maybe they'll get a rematch in the Big Ten tourney?

Tom

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From rstetson at capps-assoc.com  Mon Feb 13 15:49:14 2012
From: rstetson at capps-assoc.com (Roy S. Lamberton)
Date: Mon, 13 Feb 2012 16:49:14 -0500
Subject: [NU Sports] rebounding disaster
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Perdoo really took Shurna out of his game in the first half, I don't think he got a clean
look at the basket for 20 minutes.

They were slapping at Sobo too, and what kind of grease was on the floor under NU's basket
in the first half. Hearn and Sobo both slipped trying to cut under there - it cost us some
points.

Once again, just like Nebraska, we let PU get up a few baskets on us before we started to
score, and nobody seemed to find the range in or outside the arc, in the first 10 minutes.
PU couldn't either, but we could have put that thing away in the first half had we scored
when they didn't.

The Cats just have to take it to Indy on Wednesday.

rsl

+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
Opinions expressed above are mine alone and are not
those of any organizations of which I am a member.
+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
Roy S. Lamberton - Senior Associate.
Computer Applications & Support Associates
Coach Roy's Random Thoughts - http://coachroy.org
--------------------- Also ----------------------
"Commissioner" Delaware American Legion Baseball
Director Media Relations - Little League 
  Senior League Softball World Series
CTR2 USN (67-70) - CTRCS USNR (Ret) (64-67/70-95)
Northwestern University - Speech 1974 - 
Chi Phi: Pi 1974, KD 1968
Publisher Emeritus: Purple Reign (Fox Sports)
=================================================
There is nothing wrong with America that the faith, 
love of freedom, intelligence and energy of her citizens 
cannot cure - Dwight D. Eisenhower
=  =  =  =  =  =  =  =  =  =  =  =  =  =  =  =  =
If we become a country in which we say, 'Please, 
tell me how to live,' We're Doomed!"
                   -- Pete Hamill, "Prohibition"
===========  Go Cats -? Beat 'em All  ===========


-----Original Message-----
From: nwu-sports-bounces at tssi.com [mailto:nwu-sports-bounces at tssi.com] On Behalf Of
Beamsley, Jeff
Sent: Monday, February 13, 2012 2:12 PM
To: Tom Maycock; nwu-sports at tssi.com
Subject: Re: [NU Sports] rebounding disaster

Couple of thoughts.

These teams are pretty evenly matched.  The loss at home was close.  Hummel had to make a
great shot to win and did.  NU learned from that loss.  Carmody switched to a small lineup
and won three games including a big win over Illinois.   

NU has to shoot the three well for this small lineup to work.  We didn't do that in the
first half (4-11).  Purdude did a good job defending the three, but when we had open
looks,  we didn't make 'em.  We also had a tough time finishing around the basket on the
sorts of drives that should open up if the D is all out at the three point line.

The good news is that our defense in the first half was just as good as Purdew's, so
Purdew shot just as badly as we did.  Other than rebounds, the first half stats were
pretty even.

Both teams shot better in the second half but again were pretty close.  NU rebounded much
better.  

Where this game was won, however, was at the free throw line.  Even though it seemed like
they buried us in threes, we actually outplayed them on the floor.  They were 21-28 at the
line in the second half to our 7-12.  The final margin of victory was 10.  

Bottom line is that Purdid was able to make us play their game (gritty physical grind it
out) and last night, they were better at it.

Jeff

-----Original Message-----
From: nwu-sports-bounces at tssi.com [mailto:nwu-sports-bounces at tssi.com] On Behalf Of Tom
Maycock
Sent: Monday, February 13, 2012 12:11 PM
To: nwu-sports at tssi.com
Subject: Re: [NU Sports] rebounding disaster

> I realize the Princeton offense means rebounding can be a weakness

It may limit offensive rebounds, but I don't think it has anything inherently to do with
defensive rebounding. And that was the big problem yesterday (and has been in many
games).?

The 1-3-1 defense certainly doesn't lend itself to strong rebounding. It's just one of the
compromises you accept when you play that defense--you're going to give up a few gimmes,
and you hope that the turnovers and general mayhem you cause with the 1-3-1 more than
offset that. The Cats did play man D for a while in the second half, which I think helped,
but then as I recall they had issues staying on 3-point shooters.?


Also, the small lineup isn't conducive to strong rebounding either. (Well, at least
theoretically--I think the Cats have actually rebounded better overall with their small
lineup than with their "big" lineup). But strong rebounding from a small lineup requires
extra-big doses of "want".?

To be fair, especially in the first half Purdue was really putting up some awful shots
that lead to really long rebounds, so there was just some bad luck there.?However,
rebounding is mostly about thinking ahead, being physical, and working your ass off. The
Cats flat out didn't do a great job at those things for large portions of the game.?

Too bad, as it was another winnable game, in which the Cats played fairly well, but not
great. As the announcers noted, the Cats failed to take advantage of Purdue's cold streak
early, which left them no cushion when the Boilers got hot down the stretch.?


Mostly, it just makes the loss at home against Purdue all the more painful. The Cats
*could* have won on Sunday, but they *should* have won that game at home. The 0-2 mark
against Purdue may haunt them at selection time. Maybe they'll get a rematch in the Big
Ten tourney?

Tom

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From Willie.Weinbaum at espn.com  Mon Feb 13 18:28:26 2012
From: Willie.Weinbaum at espn.com (Weinbaum, Willie)
Date: Mon, 13 Feb 2012 19:28:26 -0500
Subject: [NU Sports] rebounding disaster
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You guys have provided excellent analysis (something I thought was lacking from the BTN color commentator, especially when he totally blew it with a misguided rant against Davide Curletti's timeout call on a first-half scramble play).   I must admit that I thought NU was going to pull the upset @ Mackey Arena last night - - that's what I get for expecting victory.   Now the Cats are no cinch to make it into the NIT (and making it to another NIT would be a big letdown for this team, anyway).   But they've shown they have much better play in them and that they're capable of bouncing back...they also seem resolute in their commitment to making this "the year," not just for Shurna to become NU's all-time leading scorer, but to make a maiden voyage into March Madness.

It will be very difficult to win in Bloomington, as # 1 Kentucky found out.  But maybe THESE Wildcats will do better than those did against the Hoosiers and will get their fourth win in the last five conference games (a rare feat for NU).   It'll likely take a 4-2 regular season finish to reach the NCAAs - - it's not probable, but it's possible (and that's more than nearly anybody would've predicted after the three excruciating defeats in a 2-6 conference start).  After playing @ IU on Wed., the games are vs. Minn. & Mich. @ Evanston, @ PSU, home vs. Ohio State & @ Iowa.  

Can you imagine if the Cats can somehow win three of the next five and have an 8-9 Big Ten record going into the finale at Iowa, with the Hawkeyes bent on avenging the Cats' rout @ Evanston & on depriving NU of a likely first-ever NCAA bid?    I'd take that scenario in a heartbeat...even if my heart might not survive watching the game in Iowa City.  So an unlikely 4-1 in the next five would be much better. :)

-----Original Message-----
From: nwu-sports-bounces at tssi.com [mailto:nwu-sports-bounces at tssi.com] On Behalf Of Roy S. Lamberton
Sent: Monday, February 13, 2012 4:49 PM
To: 'Beamsley, Jeff'; 'Tom Maycock'; nwu-sports at tssi.com
Subject: Re: [NU Sports] rebounding disaster

Perdoo really took Shurna out of his game in the first half, I don't think he got a clean look at the basket for 20 minutes.

They were slapping at Sobo too, and what kind of grease was on the floor under NU's basket in the first half. Hearn and Sobo both slipped trying to cut under there - it cost us some points.

Once again, just like Nebraska, we let PU get up a few baskets on us before we started to score, and nobody seemed to find the range in or outside the arc, in the first 10 minutes.
PU couldn't either, but we could have put that thing away in the first half had we scored when they didn't.

The Cats just have to take it to Indy on Wednesday.

rsl

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Opinions expressed above are mine alone and are not those of any organizations of which I am a member.
+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
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Computer Applications & Support Associates Coach Roy's Random Thoughts - http://coachroy.org
--------------------- Also ---------------------- "Commissioner" Delaware American Legion Baseball Director Media Relations - Little League
  Senior League Softball World Series
CTR2 USN (67-70) - CTRCS USNR (Ret) (64-67/70-95) Northwestern University - Speech 1974 - Chi Phi: Pi 1974, KD 1968 Publisher Emeritus: Purple Reign (Fox Sports) =================================================
There is nothing wrong with America that the faith, love of freedom, intelligence and energy of her citizens cannot cure - Dwight D. Eisenhower =  =  =  =  =  =  =  =  =  =  =  =  =  =  =  =  = If we become a country in which we say, 'Please, tell me how to live,' We're Doomed!"
                   -- Pete Hamill, "Prohibition"
===========  Go Cats -  Beat 'em All  ===========


-----Original Message-----
From: nwu-sports-bounces at tssi.com [mailto:nwu-sports-bounces at tssi.com] On Behalf Of Beamsley, Jeff
Sent: Monday, February 13, 2012 2:12 PM
To: Tom Maycock; nwu-sports at tssi.com
Subject: Re: [NU Sports] rebounding disaster

Couple of thoughts.

These teams are pretty evenly matched.  The loss at home was close.  Hummel had to make a great shot to win and did.  NU learned from that loss.  Carmody switched to a small lineup and won three games including a big win over Illinois.

NU has to shoot the three well for this small lineup to work.  We didn't do that in the first half (4-11).  Purdude did a good job defending the three, but when we had open looks,  we didn't make 'em.  We also had a tough time finishing around the basket on the sorts of drives that should open up if the D is all out at the three point line.

The good news is that our defense in the first half was just as good as Purdew's, so Purdew shot just as badly as we did.  Other than rebounds, the first half stats were pretty even.

Both teams shot better in the second half but again were pretty close.  NU rebounded much better.

Where this game was won, however, was at the free throw line.  Even though it seemed like they buried us in threes, we actually outplayed them on the floor.  They were 21-28 at the line in the second half to our 7-12.  The final margin of victory was 10.

Bottom line is that Purdid was able to make us play their game (gritty physical grind it
out) and last night, they were better at it.

Jeff

-----Original Message-----
From: nwu-sports-bounces at tssi.com [mailto:nwu-sports-bounces at tssi.com] On Behalf Of Tom Maycock
Sent: Monday, February 13, 2012 12:11 PM
To: nwu-sports at tssi.com
Subject: Re: [NU Sports] rebounding disaster

> I realize the Princeton offense means rebounding can be a weakness

It may limit offensive rebounds, but I don't think it has anything inherently to do with defensive rebounding. And that was the big problem yesterday (and has been in many games).

The 1-3-1 defense certainly doesn't lend itself to strong rebounding. It's just one of the compromises you accept when you play that defense--you're going to give up a few gimmes, and you hope that the turnovers and general mayhem you cause with the 1-3-1 more than offset that. The Cats did play man D for a while in the second half, which I think helped, but then as I recall they had issues staying on 3-point shooters.


Also, the small lineup isn't conducive to strong rebounding either. (Well, at least theoretically--I think the Cats have actually rebounded better overall with their small lineup than with their "big" lineup). But strong rebounding from a small lineup requires extra-big doses of "want".

To be fair, especially in the first half Purdue was really putting up some awful shots that lead to really long rebounds, so there was just some bad luck there. However, rebounding is mostly about thinking ahead, being physical, and working your ass off. The Cats flat out didn't do a great job at those things for large portions of the game.

Too bad, as it was another winnable game, in which the Cats played fairly well, but not great. As the announcers noted, the Cats failed to take advantage of Purdue's cold streak early, which left them no cushion when the Boilers got hot down the stretch.


Mostly, it just makes the loss at home against Purdue all the more painful. The Cats
*could* have won on Sunday, but they *should* have won that game at home. The 0-2 mark against Purdue may haunt them at selection time. Maybe they'll get a rematch in the Big Ten tourney?

Tom

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From Willie.Weinbaum at espn.com  Mon Feb 13 20:22:50 2012
From: Willie.Weinbaum at espn.com (Weinbaum, Willie)
Date: Mon, 13 Feb 2012 21:22:50 -0500
Subject: [NU Sports] in case you missed it, former NU swimmer made big news
Message-ID: <1F89BB2CE7A5B94D969618E8CC769CC30147DBEE45@XCHGBRS4.corp.espn.pvt>

http://espn.go.com/olympics/swimming/story/_/id/7567037/matt-grevers-wins-100m-gold-missouri-grand-prix-proposes-girlfriend


From rstetson at capps-assoc.com  Tue Feb 14 06:37:12 2012
From: rstetson at capps-assoc.com (Roy S. Lamberton)
Date: Tue, 14 Feb 2012 07:37:12 -0500
Subject: [NU Sports] in case you missed it,
	former NU swimmer made big news
In-Reply-To: <1F89BB2CE7A5B94D969618E8CC769CC30147DBEE45@XCHGBRS4.corp.espn.pvt>
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Hope he didn't screw up her performance later in the tournament....

But it's good to see the Northwestern Name and "Swimming Power Couple" in the same
article. (Like OU, with gymnastics "power couple" (& Skokie native) Bart Conner and Nadia
Com?neci.)

rsl
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--------------------- Also ----------------------
"Commissioner" Delaware American Legion Baseball
Director Media Relations - Little League 
  Senior League Softball World Series
CTR2 USN (67-70) - CTRCS USNR (Ret) (64-67/70-95)
Northwestern University - Speech 1974 - 
Chi Phi: Pi 1974, KD 1968
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From rstetson at capps-assoc.com  Tue Feb 14 07:22:09 2012
From: rstetson at capps-assoc.com (Roy S. Lamberton)
Date: Tue, 14 Feb 2012 08:22:09 -0500
Subject: [NU Sports] Post season awards
Message-ID: <006b01cceb1b$a8677aa0$f9366fe0$@com>

Thanks to Willie W and my old work with Scout, I still get the National Football
Foundation press releases, and I am really wondering why more NU Wildcats don't get
nominated, much less win, some of these academic awards.

Does NU not submit kids? Are they afraid of not being "fair?" - since we have such high
academic requirements? 

I see the info on the winners, and think back to guys like Luis Castillo who graduated
with a degree in Economics, a rather difficult subject at NU, yet he was not mentioned
anywhere. 

You know there have to be a couple of guys on the Football team every year with great
academics. I look at the past winners' list and know we've had starters who played at the
top of the game who could have sat with the finalists.

rsl

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Opinions expressed above are mine alone and are not
those of any organizations of which I am a member.
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Coach Roy's Random Thoughts - http://coachroy.org
--------------------- Also ----------------------
"Commissioner" Delaware American Legion Baseball
Director Media Relations - Little League 
  Senior League Softball World Series
CTR2 USN (67-70) - CTRCS USNR (Ret) (64-67/70-95)
Northwestern University - Speech 1974 - 
Chi Phi: Pi 1974, KD 1968
Publisher Emeritus: Purple Reign (Fox Sports)
=================================================
There is nothing wrong with America that the faith, 
love of freedom, intelligence and energy of her citizens 
cannot cure - Dwight D. Eisenhower
=  =  =  =  =  =  =  =  =  =  =  =  =  =  =  =  =
If we become a country in which we say, 'Please, 
tell me how to live,' We're Doomed!"
                   -- Pete Hamill, "Prohibition"
===========  Go Cats -? Beat 'em All  ===========





From neonrye at aol.com  Tue Feb 14 08:33:18 2012
From: neonrye at aol.com (neonrye at aol.com)
Date: Tue, 14 Feb 2012 14:33:18 +0000
Subject: [NU Sports] Post season awards
In-Reply-To: <006b01cceb1b$a8677aa0$f9366fe0$@com>
References: <006b01cceb1b$a8677aa0$f9366fe0$@com>
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I'll say Econ was a "bear" at NU.  My only "hook" (C grade)--First Quarter, Freshman Year--Prof. Kenyon Poole--Intro to Economics--will never get over it.:-)
Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry

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Subject: [NU Sports] Post season awards

Thanks to Willie W and my old work with Scout, I still get the National Football
Foundation press releases, and I am really wondering why more NU Wildcats don't get
nominated, much less win, some of these academic awards.

Does NU not submit kids? Are they afraid of not being "fair?" - since we have such high
academic requirements? 

I see the info on the winners, and think back to guys like Luis Castillo who graduated
with a degree in Economics, a rather difficult subject at NU, yet he was not mentioned
anywhere. 

You know there have to be a couple of guys on the Football team every year with great
academics. I look at the past winners' list and know we've had starters who played at the
top of the game who could have sat with the finalists.

rsl

+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
Opinions expressed above are mine alone and are not
those of any organizations of which I am a member.
+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
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Computer Applications & Support Associates
Coach Roy's Random Thoughts - http://coachroy.org
--------------------- Also ----------------------
"Commissioner" Delaware American Legion Baseball
Director Media Relations - Little League 
  Senior League Softball World Series
CTR2 USN (67-70) - CTRCS USNR (Ret) (64-67/70-95)
Northwestern University - Speech 1974 - 
Chi Phi: Pi 1974, KD 1968
Publisher Emeritus: Purple Reign (Fox Sports)
=================================================
There is nothing wrong with America that the faith, 
love of freedom, intelligence and energy of her citizens 
cannot cure - Dwight D. Eisenhower
=  =  =  =  =  =  =  =  =  =  =  =  =  =  =  =  =
If we become a country in which we say, 'Please, 
tell me how to live,' We're Doomed!"
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From Willie.Weinbaum at espn.com  Tue Feb 14 08:49:30 2012
From: Willie.Weinbaum at espn.com (Weinbaum, Willie)
Date: Tue, 14 Feb 2012 09:49:30 -0500
Subject: [NU Sports] link to video of NU alum's proposal at poolside
Message-ID: <1F89BB2CE7A5B94D969618E8CC769CC30147DBEF12@XCHGBRS4.corp.espn.pvt>

http://abcnews.go.com/GMA/video/olympic-swimmer-matt-grevers-proposes-girlfriend-15580911


From clzahn at mindspring.com  Tue Feb 14 09:27:25 2012
From: clzahn at mindspring.com (Clark Zahn)
Date: Tue, 14 Feb 2012 07:27:25 -0800 (GMT-08:00)
Subject: [NU Sports] Post season awards
Message-ID: <21609218.1329233245606.JavaMail.root@mswamui-swiss.atl.sa.earthlink.net>

I recall those of us from Tech skewed the grading curve as we all got A's. :-)


-----Original Message-----
>From: neonrye at aol.com
>Sent: Feb 14, 2012 6:33 AM
>To: "Roy S. Lamberton" <rstetson at capps-assoc.com>, nwu-sports-bounces at tssi.com, 'Northwestern Wildcats' <nwu-sports at tssi.com>
>Subject: Re: [NU Sports] Post season awards
>
>I'll say Econ was a "bear" at NU.  My only "hook" (C grade)--First Quarter, Freshman Year--Prof. Kenyon Poole--Intro to Economics--will never get over it.:-)
>Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: "Roy S. Lamberton" <rstetson at capps-assoc.com>
>Sender: nwu-sports-bounces at tssi.com
>Date: Tue, 14 Feb 2012 08:22:09 
>To: 'Northwestern Wildcats'<nwu-sports at tssi.com>
>Subject: [NU Sports] Post season awards
>
>Thanks to Willie W and my old work with Scout, I still get the National Football
>Foundation press releases, and I am really wondering why more NU Wildcats don't get
>nominated, much less win, some of these academic awards.
>
>Does NU not submit kids? Are they afraid of not being "fair?" - since we have such high
>academic requirements? 
>
>I see the info on the winners, and think back to guys like Luis Castillo who graduated
>with a degree in Economics, a rather difficult subject at NU, yet he was not mentioned
>anywhere. 
>
>You know there have to be a couple of guys on the Football team every year with great
>academics. I look at the past winners' list and know we've had starters who played at the
>top of the game who could have sat with the finalists.
>
>rsl
>
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>Opinions expressed above are mine alone and are not
>those of any organizations of which I am a member.
>+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
>Roy S. Lamberton - Senior Associate.
>Computer Applications & Support Associates
>Coach Roy's Random Thoughts - http://coachroy.org
>--------------------- Also ----------------------
>"Commissioner" Delaware American Legion Baseball
>Director Media Relations - Little League 
>  Senior League Softball World Series
>CTR2 USN (67-70) - CTRCS USNR (Ret) (64-67/70-95)
>Northwestern University - Speech 1974 - 
>Chi Phi: Pi 1974, KD 1968
>Publisher Emeritus: Purple Reign (Fox Sports)
>=================================================
>There is nothing wrong with America that the faith, 
>love of freedom, intelligence and energy of her citizens 
>cannot cure - Dwight D. Eisenhower
>=  =  =  =  =  =  =  =  =  =  =  =  =  =  =  =  =
>If we become a country in which we say, 'Please, 
>tell me how to live,' We're Doomed!"
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>
>
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From michael.vance at att.net  Tue Feb 14 10:26:34 2012
From: michael.vance at att.net (Michael Vance)
Date: Tue, 14 Feb 2012 11:26:34 -0500
Subject: [NU Sports] Post season awards
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In the late 80s, it all depended on who your prof was. I made the mistake of taking B01 with Eisner. His exams were multiple choice, but most questions were of the form, "Which of the following is false?" followed by four complex sentences that only differed by one or two words each. An Econ major friend who was taking it with a different prof (I forget who) and I traded exams once after we got them back and we both did significantly worse on the Eisner exam.

-Michael
Sent from my mobile device...

On Feb 14, 2012, at 10:27 AM, Clark Zahn <clzahn at mindspring.com> wrote:

> I recall those of us from Tech skewed the grading curve as we all got A's. :-)
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
>> From: neonrye at aol.com
>> Sent: Feb 14, 2012 6:33 AM
>> To: "Roy S. Lamberton" <rstetson at capps-assoc.com>, nwu-sports-bounces at tssi.com, 'Northwestern Wildcats' <nwu-sports at tssi.com>
>> Subject: Re: [NU Sports] Post season awards
>> 
>> I'll say Econ was a "bear" at NU.  My only "hook" (C grade)--First Quarter, Freshman Year--Prof. Kenyon Poole--Intro to Economics--will never get over it.:-)
>> Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry
>> 
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: "Roy S. Lamberton" <rstetson at capps-assoc.com>
>> Sender: nwu-sports-bounces at tssi.com
>> Date: Tue, 14 Feb 2012 08:22:09 
>> To: 'Northwestern Wildcats'<nwu-sports at tssi.com>
>> Subject: [NU Sports] Post season awards
>> 
>> Thanks to Willie W and my old work with Scout, I still get the National Football
>> Foundation press releases, and I am really wondering why more NU Wildcats don't get
>> nominated, much less win, some of these academic awards.
>> 
>> Does NU not submit kids? Are they afraid of not being "fair?" - since we have such high
>> academic requirements? 
>> 
>> I see the info on the winners, and think back to guys like Luis Castillo who graduated
>> with a degree in Economics, a rather difficult subject at NU, yet he was not mentioned
>> anywhere. 
>> 
>> You know there have to be a couple of guys on the Football team every year with great
>> academics. I look at the past winners' list and know we've had starters who played at the
>> top of the game who could have sat with the finalists.
>> 
>> rsl
>> 
>> +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
>> Opinions expressed above are mine alone and are not
>> those of any organizations of which I am a member.
>> +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
>> Roy S. Lamberton - Senior Associate.
>> Computer Applications & Support Associates
>> Coach Roy's Random Thoughts - http://coachroy.org
>> --------------------- Also ----------------------
>> "Commissioner" Delaware American Legion Baseball
>> Director Media Relations - Little League 
>> Senior League Softball World Series
>> CTR2 USN (67-70) - CTRCS USNR (Ret) (64-67/70-95)
>> Northwestern University - Speech 1974 - 
>> Chi Phi: Pi 1974, KD 1968
>> Publisher Emeritus: Purple Reign (Fox Sports)
>> =================================================
>> There is nothing wrong with America that the faith, 
>> love of freedom, intelligence and energy of her citizens 
>> cannot cure - Dwight D. Eisenhower
>> =  =  =  =  =  =  =  =  =  =  =  =  =  =  =  =  =
>> If we become a country in which we say, 'Please, 
>> tell me how to live,' We're Doomed!"
>>                  -- Pete Hamill, "Prohibition"
>> ===========  Go Cats -  Beat 'em All  ===========
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
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From neonrye at aol.com  Tue Feb 14 10:38:45 2012
From: neonrye at aol.com (neonrye at aol.com)
Date: Tue, 14 Feb 2012 16:38:45 +0000
Subject: [NU Sports] Post season awards
In-Reply-To: <7A8C98E5-980A-4A31-9D79-A47EC070802F@att.net>
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I couldn't get into Eisner's section.  He became very well known in 1972 as George McGovern's chief economic guru during the ill-fated campaign vs. Nixon.  Needless to say, he never got to serve in the White House.
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Subject: Re: [NU Sports] Post season awards

In the late 80s, it all depended on who your prof was. I made the mistake of taking B01 with Eisner. His exams were multiple choice, but most questions were of the form, "Which of the following is false?" followed by four complex sentences that only differed by one or two words each. An Econ major friend who was taking it with a different prof (I forget who) and I traded exams once after we got them back and we both did significantly worse on the Eisner exam.

-Michael
Sent from my mobile device...

On Feb 14, 2012, at 10:27 AM, Clark Zahn <clzahn at mindspring.com> wrote:

> I recall those of us from Tech skewed the grading curve as we all got A's. :-)
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
>> From: neonrye at aol.com
>> Sent: Feb 14, 2012 6:33 AM
>> To: "Roy S. Lamberton" <rstetson at capps-assoc.com>, nwu-sports-bounces at tssi.com, 'Northwestern Wildcats' <nwu-sports at tssi.com>
>> Subject: Re: [NU Sports] Post season awards
>> 
>> I'll say Econ was a "bear" at NU.  My only "hook" (C grade)--First Quarter, Freshman Year--Prof. Kenyon Poole--Intro to Economics--will never get over it.:-)
>> Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry
>> 
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: "Roy S. Lamberton" <rstetson at capps-assoc.com>
>> Sender: nwu-sports-bounces at tssi.com
>> Date: Tue, 14 Feb 2012 08:22:09 
>> To: 'Northwestern Wildcats'<nwu-sports at tssi.com>
>> Subject: [NU Sports] Post season awards
>> 
>> Thanks to Willie W and my old work with Scout, I still get the National Football
>> Foundation press releases, and I am really wondering why more NU Wildcats don't get
>> nominated, much less win, some of these academic awards.
>> 
>> Does NU not submit kids? Are they afraid of not being "fair?" - since we have such high
>> academic requirements? 
>> 
>> I see the info on the winners, and think back to guys like Luis Castillo who graduated
>> with a degree in Economics, a rather difficult subject at NU, yet he was not mentioned
>> anywhere. 
>> 
>> You know there have to be a couple of guys on the Football team every year with great
>> academics. I look at the past winners' list and know we've had starters who played at the
>> top of the game who could have sat with the finalists.
>> 
>> rsl
>> 
>> +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
>> Opinions expressed above are mine alone and are not
>> those of any organizations of which I am a member.
>> +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
>> Roy S. Lamberton - Senior Associate.
>> Computer Applications & Support Associates
>> Coach Roy's Random Thoughts - http://coachroy.org
>> --------------------- Also ----------------------
>> "Commissioner" Delaware American Legion Baseball
>> Director Media Relations - Little League 
>> Senior League Softball World Series
>> CTR2 USN (67-70) - CTRCS USNR (Ret) (64-67/70-95)
>> Northwestern University - Speech 1974 - 
>> Chi Phi: Pi 1974, KD 1968
>> Publisher Emeritus: Purple Reign (Fox Sports)
>> =================================================
>> There is nothing wrong with America that the faith, 
>> love of freedom, intelligence and energy of her citizens 
>> cannot cure - Dwight D. Eisenhower
>> =  =  =  =  =  =  =  =  =  =  =  =  =  =  =  =  =
>> If we become a country in which we say, 'Please, 
>> tell me how to live,' We're Doomed!"
>>                  -- Pete Hamill, "Prohibition"
>> ===========  Go Cats -  Beat 'em All  ===========
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
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From Jeff.Beamsley at covisint.com  Tue Feb 14 11:51:42 2012
From: Jeff.Beamsley at covisint.com (Beamsley, Jeff)
Date: Tue, 14 Feb 2012 12:51:42 -0500
Subject: [NU Sports] Post season awards
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I didn't get all A's, but when I did get a lower grade I generally blamed the drugs and not the professor.

Jeff
Tech '72

-----Original Message-----
From: nwu-sports-bounces at tssi.com [mailto:nwu-sports-bounces at tssi.com] On Behalf Of Clark Zahn
Sent: Tuesday, February 14, 2012 10:27 AM
To: 'Northwestern Wildcats'
Subject: Re: [NU Sports] Post season awards

I recall those of us from Tech skewed the grading curve as we all got A's. :-)


-----Original Message-----
>From: neonrye at aol.com
>Sent: Feb 14, 2012 6:33 AM
>To: "Roy S. Lamberton" <rstetson at capps-assoc.com>, nwu-sports-bounces at tssi.com, 'Northwestern Wildcats' <nwu-sports at tssi.com>
>Subject: Re: [NU Sports] Post season awards
>
>I'll say Econ was a "bear" at NU.  My only "hook" (C grade)--First Quarter, Freshman Year--Prof. Kenyon Poole--Intro to Economics--will never get over it.:-)
>Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: "Roy S. Lamberton" <rstetson at capps-assoc.com>
>Sender: nwu-sports-bounces at tssi.com
>Date: Tue, 14 Feb 2012 08:22:09 
>To: 'Northwestern Wildcats'<nwu-sports at tssi.com>
>Subject: [NU Sports] Post season awards
>
>Thanks to Willie W and my old work with Scout, I still get the National Football
>Foundation press releases, and I am really wondering why more NU Wildcats don't get
>nominated, much less win, some of these academic awards.
>
>Does NU not submit kids? Are they afraid of not being "fair?" - since we have such high
>academic requirements? 
>
>I see the info on the winners, and think back to guys like Luis Castillo who graduated
>with a degree in Economics, a rather difficult subject at NU, yet he was not mentioned
>anywhere. 
>
>You know there have to be a couple of guys on the Football team every year with great
>academics. I look at the past winners' list and know we've had starters who played at the
>top of the game who could have sat with the finalists.
>
>rsl
>
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From nolan at tssi.com  Tue Feb 14 13:08:25 2012
From: nolan at tssi.com (Mike Nolan)
Date: Tue, 14 Feb 2012 13:08:25 -0600 (CST)
Subject: [NU Sports] Post season awards
In-Reply-To: <006b01cceb1b$a8677aa0$f9366fe0$@com>
Message-ID: <20120214190825.673F465620@romaine.tssi.com>

Which post season awards are you referring to?
--
Mike Nolan


From rstetson at capps-assoc.com  Tue Feb 14 13:49:19 2012
From: rstetson at capps-assoc.com (Roy S. Lamberton)
Date: Tue, 14 Feb 2012 14:49:19 -0500
Subject: [NU Sports] Post season awards
In-Reply-To: <20120214190825.673F465620@romaine.tssi.com>
References: <006b01cceb1b$a8677aa0$f9366fe0$@com>
 <20120214190825.673F465620@romaine.tssi.com>
Message-ID: <002101cceb51$bf5615b0$3e024110$@com>

Primarily the NFF awards - you know, the organization that put Fitz the player in their
hall of fame?

rsl 

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Opinions expressed above are mine alone and are not
those of any organizations of which I am a member.
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--------------------- Also ----------------------
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Director Media Relations - Little League 
  Senior League Softball World Series
CTR2 USN (67-70) - CTRCS USNR (Ret) (64-67/70-95)
Northwestern University - Speech 1974 - 
Chi Phi: Pi 1974, KD 1968
Publisher Emeritus: Purple Reign (Fox Sports)
=================================================
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love of freedom, intelligence and energy of her citizens 
cannot cure - Dwight D. Eisenhower
=  =  =  =  =  =  =  =  =  =  =  =  =  =  =  =  =
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tell me how to live,' We're Doomed!"
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-----Original Message-----
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Sent: Tuesday, February 14, 2012 2:08 PM
To: Roy S. Lamberton
Cc: 'Northwestern Wildcats'
Subject: Re: [NU Sports] Post season awards

Which post season awards are you referring to?
--
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From sportsbiz at gmail.com  Wed Feb 15 14:30:23 2012
From: sportsbiz at gmail.com (Sportsbiz)
Date: Wed, 15 Feb 2012 15:30:23 -0500
Subject: [NU Sports] Cobb Returns
Message-ID: <CAPCH0EPT5Pr1SMqDcWNi1MEf_EbJDC24gD5WtXEwpcPSd6M6xg@mail.gmail.com>

There is no doubt that playing Indiana in Assembly Hall this year has
turned into a tough assignment.  For a team like the Cats with a short
bench, it's tougher still.  However, the news that Cobb may finally be
available means that Carmody will have at least 15 minutes of someone else
to play tonight spelling Crawford or Hearn for a bit if either tires or
gets in foul trouble.  It has to help, right?

*
http://www.suntimes.com/sports/10644513-419/northwesterns-jershon-cobb-says-hes-finally-ready-to-go.html
*
*
*
*Mark

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From thehaze at earthlink.net  Wed Feb 15 15:21:41 2012
From: thehaze at earthlink.net (Jim Bendat)
Date: Wed, 15 Feb 2012 13:21:41 -0800 (GMT-08:00)
Subject: [NU Sports] My personal key to the game
Message-ID: <25870349.1329340901315.JavaMail.root@wamui-june.atl.sa.earthlink.net>

Everyone agrees tonight's game against Indiana is a big one for us. And, many of us - at least when it comes to NU football - have certain rituals on game day. It could be what we wear, what we eat, or where we're sitting when we watch one of our games. 

Regarding basketball and this year's team, I think we have lost most of the conference games I've watched. I missed the big MSU win, and I missed a few other key victories as well.

So, my personal key to the game is that I won't watch it, and it will hopefully be a blessing. The contest actually starts at 3:30 in the afternoon Pacific time, and I'll be in court at that time. Then, when my work day is over, I'm heading to downtown L.A. to see the last-ever UCLA-SC basketball game at the old L.A. Sports Arena, UCLA's temporary home this season. Hey, I know both teams stink this year, but who am I to turn down a couple of good, free tickets.

I'll be paying attention to the Cats game on my cell phone, however, and if we can win, I imagine it would be our biggest road win this season. So, Go Cats!

Jim B.


From Jeff.Beamsley at covisint.com  Wed Feb 15 16:13:41 2012
From: Jeff.Beamsley at covisint.com (Beamsley, Jeff)
Date: Wed, 15 Feb 2012 17:13:41 -0500
Subject: [NU Sports] Cobb Returns
In-Reply-To: <CAPCH0EPT5Pr1SMqDcWNi1MEf_EbJDC24gD5WtXEwpcPSd6M6xg@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAPCH0EPT5Pr1SMqDcWNi1MEf_EbJDC24gD5WtXEwpcPSd6M6xg@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <37BBE4FEDCA6A1479A65BA8A020B14BC4412E0@nasa-dtw-ex006.nasa.cpwr.corp>

Depends on whether or not he can drain the three.  

IMHO, beating Indiana means sinking the three early and playing zone.

They are going to gang up on Shurna and Crawford early and force
somebody else to shoot the ball.  Whomever that is has to hit their open
looks.  If they do, we could be off to the races.

Jeff


-----Original Message-----
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On Behalf Of Sportsbiz
Sent: Wednesday, February 15, 2012 3:30 PM
To: Aaron S. Ament; nwu-sports at tssi.com
Subject: [NU Sports] Cobb Returns

There is no doubt that playing Indiana in Assembly Hall this year has
turned into a tough assignment.  For a team like the Cats with a short
bench, it's tougher still.  However, the news that Cobb may finally be
available means that Carmody will have at least 15 minutes of someone
else
to play tonight spelling Crawford or Hearn for a bit if either tires or
gets in foul trouble.  It has to help, right?

*
http://www.suntimes.com/sports/10644513-419/northwesterns-jershon-cobb-s
ays-hes-finally-ready-to-go.html
*
*
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*Mark

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From rstetson at capps-assoc.com  Wed Feb 15 16:28:06 2012
From: rstetson at capps-assoc.com (rstetson at capps-assoc.com)
Date: Wed, 15 Feb 2012 17:28:06 -0500
Subject: [NU Sports] Cobb Returns
In-Reply-To: <CAPCH0EPT5Pr1SMqDcWNi1MEf_EbJDC24gD5WtXEwpcPSd6M6xg@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAPCH0EPT5Pr1SMqDcWNi1MEf_EbJDC24gD5WtXEwpcPSd6M6xg@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <fb9ddbad-3f3a-4b6c-a294-253ba4e6c672@blur>

Cobb says he's ready but does BC think he's ready.

Sent from my Verizon Wireless Phone

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To: "Aaron S. Ament" <aaronsament at gmail.com>,  nwu-sports at tssi.com
Sent: Wed, Feb 15, 2012 20:30:23 GMT+00:00
Subject: [NU Sports] Cobb Returns

There is no doubt that playing Indiana in Assembly Hall this year has
turned into a tough assignment.  For a team like the Cats with a short
bench, it's tougher still.  However, the news that Cobb may finally be
available means that Carmody will have at least 15 minutes of someone else
to play tonight spelling Crawford or Hearn for a bit if either tires or
gets in foul trouble.  It has to help, right?

*
http://www.suntimes.com/sports/10644513-419/northwesterns-jershon-cobb-says-h 
es-finally-ready-to-go.html
*
*
*
*Mark

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From rstetson at capps-assoc.com  Wed Feb 15 16:29:01 2012
From: rstetson at capps-assoc.com (rstetson at capps-assoc.com)
Date: Wed, 15 Feb 2012 17:29:01 -0500
Subject: [NU Sports] Cobb Returns
In-Reply-To: <37BBE4FEDCA6A1479A65BA8A020B14BC4412E0@nasa-dtw-ex006.nasa.cpwr.corp>
References: <CAPCH0EPT5Pr1SMqDcWNi1MEf_EbJDC24gD5WtXEwpcPSd6M6xg@mail.gmail.com>
 <37BBE4FEDCA6A1479A65BA8A020B14BC4412E0@nasa-dtw-ex006.nasa.cpwr.corp>
Message-ID: <625ff324-3477-4864-ae83-2f7b5b5e6e03@blur>

Can you say HEARN

Who was passed up by Indy...

Sent from my Verizon Wireless Phone

-----Original message-----
From: "Beamsley, Jeff" <Jeff.Beamsley at covisint.com>
To: Sportsbiz <sportsbiz at gmail.com>, "Aaron S. Ament"  
<aaronsament at gmail.com>, nwu-sports at tssi.com
Sent: Wed, Feb 15, 2012 22:13:41 GMT+00:00
Subject: Re: [NU Sports] Cobb Returns

Depends on whether or not he can drain the three.  

IMHO, beating Indiana means sinking the three early and playing zone.

They are going to gang up on Shurna and Crawford early and force
somebody else to shoot the ball.  Whomever that is has to hit their open
looks.  If they do, we could be off to the races.

Jeff


-----Original Message-----
From: nwu-sports-bounces at tssi.com [mailto:nwu-sports-bounces at tssi.com]
On Behalf Of Sportsbiz
Sent: Wednesday, February 15, 2012 3:30 PM
To: Aaron S. Ament; nwu-sports at tssi.com
Subject: [NU Sports] Cobb Returns

There is no doubt that playing Indiana in Assembly Hall this year has
turned into a tough assignment.  For a team like the Cats with a short
bench, it's tougher still.  However, the news that Cobb may finally be
available means that Carmody will have at least 15 minutes of someone
else
to play tonight spelling Crawford or Hearn for a bit if either tires or
gets in foul trouble.  It has to help, right?

*
http://www.suntimes.com/sports/10644513-419/northwesterns-jershon-cobb-s
ays-hes-finally-ready-to-go.html
*
*
*
*Mark

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From Jeff.Beamsley at covisint.com  Wed Feb 15 16:34:24 2012
From: Jeff.Beamsley at covisint.com (Beamsley, Jeff)
Date: Wed, 15 Feb 2012 17:34:24 -0500
Subject: [NU Sports] Cobb Returns
In-Reply-To: <625ff324-3477-4864-ae83-2f7b5b5e6e03@blur>
References: <CAPCH0EPT5Pr1SMqDcWNi1MEf_EbJDC24gD5WtXEwpcPSd6M6xg@mail.gmail.com>
 <37BBE4FEDCA6A1479A65BA8A020B14BC4412E0@nasa-dtw-ex006.nasa.cpwr.corp>
 <625ff324-3477-4864-ae83-2f7b5b5e6e03@blur>
Message-ID: <37BBE4FEDCA6A1479A65BA8A020B14BC4412EA@nasa-dtw-ex006.nasa.cpwr.corp>

We can all SAY Hearn.  

 

What we need is for Hearn to show up early in the same way that he showed up in the Illinois game.

 

Jeff

 

From: rstetson at capps-assoc.com [mailto:rstetson at capps-assoc.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, February 15, 2012 5:29 PM
To: Beamsley, Jeff; Sportsbiz; Aaron S. Ament; nwu-sports at tssi.com
Subject: Re: [NU Sports] Cobb Returns

 

Can you say HEARN

Who was passed up by Indy...

Sent from my Verizon Wireless Phone



-----Original message-----

From: "Beamsley, Jeff" <Jeff.Beamsley at covisint.com>
To: Sportsbiz <sportsbiz at gmail.com>, "Aaron S. Ament" <aaronsament at gmail.com>, nwu-sports at tssi.com
Sent: Wed, Feb 15, 2012 22:13:41 GMT+00:00
Subject: Re: [NU Sports] Cobb Returns

Depends on whether or not he can drain the three. 

IMHO, beating Indiana means sinking the three early and playing zone.

They are going to gang up on Shurna and Crawford early and force
somebody else to shoot the ball. Whomever that is has to hit their open
looks. If they do, we could be off to the races.

Jeff


-----Original Message-----
From: nwu-sports-bounces at tssi.com [mailto:nwu-sports-bounces at tssi.com]
On Behalf Of Sportsbiz
Sent: Wednesday, February 15, 2012 3:30 PM
To: Aaron S. Ament; nwu-sports at tssi.com
Subject: [NU Sports] Cobb Returns

There is no doubt that playing Indiana in Assembly Hall this year has
turned into a tough assignment. For a team like the Cats with a short
bench, it's tougher still. However, the news that Cobb may finally be
available means that Carmody will have at least 15 minutes of someone
else
to play tonight spelling Crawford or Hearn for a bit if either tires or
gets in foul trouble. It has to help, right?

*
http://www.suntimes.com/sports/10644513-419/northwesterns-jershon-cobb-s
ays-hes-finally-ready-to-go.html
*
*
*
*Mark

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From Willie.Weinbaum at espn.com  Wed Feb 15 18:25:04 2012
From: Willie.Weinbaum at espn.com (Weinbaum, Willie)
Date: Wed, 15 Feb 2012 19:25:04 -0500
Subject: [NU Sports] Streaky half
Message-ID: <1F89BB2CE7A5B94D969618E8CC769CC30147A029C8@XCHGBRS4.corp.espn.pvt>

With Sobo in foul trouble, especially big to have Cobb back.  

Cats started out really clicking on offense and playing spirited defense.  And the 1-3-1 late caused probs for IU.  But the boards...oh the boards.  Cats got worn down quickly.  Tired tune.

Hoosiers didn't press (didn't want to commit fouls), but Cats still turned the ball over too much (not just on Sobo's offensive fouls).  

Interesting how ever since his explosion vs. MSU, Curletti has simply disappeared on offense.  

Without an assertive Shurna hitting big shots, this would be an IU rout.

But it's not.  There is hope.  Cats have to maintain defensive aggressiveness and do more to stop IU from dominating the glass.  And Shurna needs help on O.

From Willie.Weinbaum at espn.com  Wed Feb 15 19:34:14 2012
From: Willie.Weinbaum at espn.com (Weinbaum, Willie)
Date: Wed, 15 Feb 2012 20:34:14 -0500
Subject: [NU Sports] Shurna needed support
Message-ID: <1F89BB2CE7A5B94D969618E8CC769CC30147A029DD@XCHGBRS4.corp.espn.pvt>

Shurna got so little help.  Even a little more on offense would've made a difference.  He had 29 of Cats' 66.  And the defense allowed too many easy IU hoops.  Most Cats possessions, by contrast, were tooth and nail struggles.

Another potential road win...another loss.  To reach NCAAs, Cats need to go 4-1 in last five or have a conf tourney miracle.  Big, big longshots.  Have to feel worst for Shurna, who has played with so much heart. 

From thiegs at umn.edu  Wed Feb 15 19:44:54 2012
From: thiegs at umn.edu (Joe Thiegs)
Date: Wed, 15 Feb 2012 19:44:54 -0600
Subject: [NU Sports] Shurna needed support
In-Reply-To: <1F89BB2CE7A5B94D969618E8CC769CC30147A029DD@XCHGBRS4.corp.espn.pvt>
References: <1F89BB2CE7A5B94D969618E8CC769CC30147A029DD@XCHGBRS4.corp.espn.pvt>
Message-ID: <924B5E2D-6037-4387-8079-9B5AE4342F91@umn.edu>

It's Jitim Young all over again.  -Joe

On Feb 15, 2012, at 7:34 PM, "Weinbaum, Willie" <Willie.Weinbaum at espn.com> wrote:

> Shurna got so little help.  Even a little more on offense would've made a difference.  He had 29 of Cats' 66.  And the defense allowed too many easy IU hoops.  Most Cats possessions, by contrast, were tooth and nail struggles.
> 
> Another potential road win...another loss.  To reach NCAAs, Cats need to go 4-1 in last five or have a conf tourney miracle.  Big, big longshots.  Have to feel worst for Shurna, who has played with so much heart. 
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From tbng at comcast.net  Wed Feb 15 21:36:08 2012
From: tbng at comcast.net (Dennis W. Brandt)
Date: Wed, 15 Feb 2012 22:36:08 -0500
Subject: [NU Sports] Sad
Message-ID: <9AFD635299BA4BC18EC66F55B9134449@dennismachine>

Shurna was outstanding and Marcotullio played exceptionally well, but they got hammered on the boards, especially in the first half, and were running on fumes at the end.  Same ol', same ol'.  Forget the big dance.  It's the NIT again - if they don't go completely into the tank after tonight.

From Jeff.Beamsley at covisint.com  Thu Feb 16 06:19:55 2012
From: Jeff.Beamsley at covisint.com (Beamsley, Jeff)
Date: Thu, 16 Feb 2012 07:19:55 -0500
Subject: [NU Sports] Sad
In-Reply-To: <9AFD635299BA4BC18EC66F55B9134449@dennismachine>
References: <9AFD635299BA4BC18EC66F55B9134449@dennismachine>
Message-ID: <18CEDB3E-D391-49E6-95F8-A5B0D67F4D48@covisint.com>

Definitely disappointing game. 

Reminded me of early Jordan/bulls games. Jordan goes off for 45 and at the end of the game nobody else is willing to take a shot. 

Carmody said in the trib today that he thought 8 conference wins would get them in the conversation. Still a chance to do that. 

Jeff 

Sent from my iPhone

On Feb 15, 2012, at 10:25 PM, "Dennis W. Brandt" <tbng at comcast.net> wrote:

> Shurna was outstanding and Marcotullio played exceptionally well, but they got hammered on the boards, especially in the first half, and were running on fumes at the end.  Same ol', same ol'.  Forget the big dance.  It's the NIT again - if they don't go completely into the tank after tonight.
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From Willie.Weinbaum at espn.com  Thu Feb 16 07:02:07 2012
From: Willie.Weinbaum at espn.com (Weinbaum, Willie)
Date: Thu, 16 Feb 2012 08:02:07 -0500
Subject: [NU Sports] Sad
In-Reply-To: <18CEDB3E-D391-49E6-95F8-A5B0D67F4D48@covisint.com>
Message-ID: <1F89BB2CE7A5B94D969618E8CC769CC30147A029ED@XCHGBRS4.corp.espn.pvt>

I think you guys made very good points, but that Carmody would be best-served by avoiding saying what it might take to get to the NCAA's.  I just don't see how putting a 3-2 finish/a sub-.500 conference record out there as something of a "goal" is at all constructive.  Would seem to be much more prudent and upbeat to say, "We've lost some very tough ones despite playing well a lot of the time.  We have five games left and we want to be at our best in all of those and in the conference tournament, finish strong in every game and end with a really good run to get into the tournament.  If we can consistently play at our best, we think we can make it." 

Why dangle a 3-2 conclusion and an 8-10 slate, even if there is the possibility it'll be good enough (perhaps boosted by a win or two in the conf. tourney)?  Teams that have lost two straight winnable games have to focus on the next step, not on anything down the road.

This is an uphill climb and few think the Cats will pull it off.  I'd suggest that BC preach a version of the cliched, but apt "take it one game at a time and everything will fall into place." :)

----- Original Message -----
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To: Dennis W. Brandt <tbng at comcast.net>
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Subject: Re: [NU Sports] Sad

Definitely disappointing game.

Reminded me of early Jordan/bulls games. Jordan goes off for 45 and at the end of the game nobody else is willing to take a shot.

Carmody said in the trib today that he thought 8 conference wins would get them in the conversation. Still a chance to do that.

Jeff

Sent from my iPhone

On Feb 15, 2012, at 10:25 PM, "Dennis W. Brandt" <tbng at comcast.net> wrote:

> Shurna was outstanding and Marcotullio played exceptionally well, but they got hammered on the boards, especially in the first half, and were running on fumes at the end.  Same ol', same ol'.  Forget the big dance.  It's the NIT again - if they don't go completely into the tank after tonight.
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From neonrye at aol.com  Thu Feb 16 08:15:46 2012
From: neonrye at aol.com (neonrye at aol.com)
Date: Thu, 16 Feb 2012 14:15:46 +0000
Subject: [NU Sports] Sad
In-Reply-To: <1F89BB2CE7A5B94D969618E8CC769CC30147A029ED@XCHGBRS4.corp.espn.pvt>
References: <18CEDB3E-D391-49E6-95F8-A5B0D67F4D48@covisint.com>
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I think Willie is right on.  Carmody seems to be lobbying the. Selection Committee--very prematurely.  While they may have been sympathetic and disposed to lean over backwards to extend a slot to the "Cinderella" 'Cats for a first Dance at the March Mall, now they may lean the other way if they resent the pressure.  

Paul Levinson
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Subject: Re: [NU Sports] Sad

I think you guys made very good points, but that Carmody would be best-served by avoiding saying what it might take to get to the NCAA's.  I just don't see how putting a 3-2 finish/a sub-.500 conference record out there as something of a "goal" is at all constructive.  Would seem to be much more prudent and upbeat to say, "We've lost some very tough ones despite playing well a lot of the time.  We have five games left and we want to be at our best in all of those and in the conference tournament, finish strong in every game and end with a really good run to get into the tournament.  If we can consistently play at our best, we think we can make it." 

Why dangle a 3-2 conclusion and an 8-10 slate, even if there is the possibility it'll be good enough (perhaps boosted by a win or two in the conf. tourney)?  Teams that have lost two straight winnable games have to focus on the next step, not on anything down the road.

This is an uphill climb and few think the Cats will pull it off.  I'd suggest that BC preach a version of the cliched, but apt "take it one game at a time and everything will fall into place." :)

----- Original Message -----
From: Beamsley, Jeff [mailto:Jeff.Beamsley at covisint.com]
Sent: Thursday, February 16, 2012 07:19 AM
To: Dennis W. Brandt <tbng at comcast.net>
Cc: nwu-sports at tssi.com <nwu-sports at tssi.com>
Subject: Re: [NU Sports] Sad

Definitely disappointing game.

Reminded me of early Jordan/bulls games. Jordan goes off for 45 and at the end of the game nobody else is willing to take a shot.

Carmody said in the trib today that he thought 8 conference wins would get them in the conversation. Still a chance to do that.

Jeff

Sent from my iPhone

On Feb 15, 2012, at 10:25 PM, "Dennis W. Brandt" <tbng at comcast.net> wrote:

> Shurna was outstanding and Marcotullio played exceptionally well, but they got hammered on the boards, especially in the first half, and were running on fumes at the end.  Same ol', same ol'.  Forget the big dance.  It's the NIT again - if they don't go completely into the tank after tonight.
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From hakirsch at aol.com  Thu Feb 16 08:23:23 2012
From: hakirsch at aol.com (hakirsch at aol.com)
Date: Thu, 16 Feb 2012 14:23:23 +0000
Subject: [NU Sports] Sad
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I just want to remind the list that the field has expanded a bit this year. 

Part of the fate  may rest on whether any sub par teams from other conferences win their tournament and therefore take an extra spot (and effectively eliminate one at large spot by forcing the committee to take the regular season conference winner as well)

 Beyond that ,for better or worse,the bar is set slightly lower with additional teams this year

Harry
Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry

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Subject: Re: [NU Sports] Sad

I think Willie is right on.  Carmody seems to be lobbying the. Selection Committee--very prematurely.  While they may have been sympathetic and disposed to lean over backwards to extend a slot to the "Cinderella" 'Cats for a first Dance at the March Mall, now they may lean the other way if they resent the pressure.  

Paul Levinson
Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry

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Subject: Re: [NU Sports] Sad

I think you guys made very good points, but that Carmody would be best-served by avoiding saying what it might take to get to the NCAA's.  I just don't see how putting a 3-2 finish/a sub-.500 conference record out there as something of a "goal" is at all constructive.  Would seem to be much more prudent and upbeat to say, "We've lost some very tough ones despite playing well a lot of the time.  We have five games left and we want to be at our best in all of those and in the conference tournament, finish strong in every game and end with a really good run to get into the tournament.  If we can consistently play at our best, we think we can make it." 

Why dangle a 3-2 conclusion and an 8-10 slate, even if there is the possibility it'll be good enough (perhaps boosted by a win or two in the conf. tourney)?  Teams that have lost two straight winnable games have to focus on the next step, not on anything down the road.

This is an uphill climb and few think the Cats will pull it off.  I'd suggest that BC preach a version of the cliched, but apt "take it one game at a time and everything will fall into place." :)

----- Original Message -----
From: Beamsley, Jeff [mailto:Jeff.Beamsley at covisint.com]
Sent: Thursday, February 16, 2012 07:19 AM
To: Dennis W. Brandt <tbng at comcast.net>
Cc: nwu-sports at tssi.com <nwu-sports at tssi.com>
Subject: Re: [NU Sports] Sad

Definitely disappointing game.

Reminded me of early Jordan/bulls games. Jordan goes off for 45 and at the end of the game nobody else is willing to take a shot.

Carmody said in the trib today that he thought 8 conference wins would get them in the conversation. Still a chance to do that.

Jeff

Sent from my iPhone

On Feb 15, 2012, at 10:25 PM, "Dennis W. Brandt" <tbng at comcast.net> wrote:

> Shurna was outstanding and Marcotullio played exceptionally well, but they got hammered on the boards, especially in the first half, and were running on fumes at the end.  Same ol', same ol'.  Forget the big dance.  It's the NIT again - if they don't go completely into the tank after tonight.
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From Willie.Weinbaum at espn.com  Thu Feb 16 08:36:22 2012
From: Willie.Weinbaum at espn.com (Weinbaum, Willie)
Date: Thu, 16 Feb 2012 09:36:22 -0500
Subject: [NU Sports] Sad
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Regardless of reduced standards, easier qualifying, etc., I don't think BC should set a low public bar or seem to be groveling.  Bad message to the public and his team.  Let your play and record do the talking.  It's bad enough that crazy fans and bracketologists continually dissect the chances, but a coach and team shouldn't publicly engage in that (follow the example of Pat Fitzgerald who doesn't entertain discussions of rankings of his recruits).   Carmody shouldn't discuss whether it'll take three or four wins in five games to get a never-before-achieved NCAA berth.  Try like hell to win all five, don't dwell on missed chances or espouse relying on sub-.500 play...then, tout your team at the end if its worthy.

-----Original Message-----
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Sent: Thursday, February 16, 2012 9:23 AM
To: neonrye at aol.com; Weinbaum, Willie; nwu-sports-bounces at tssi.com
Cc: 'nwu-sports at tssi.com'
Subject: Re: [NU Sports] Sad

I just want to remind the list that the field has expanded a bit this year. 

Part of the fate  may rest on whether any sub par teams from other conferences win their tournament and therefore take an extra spot (and effectively eliminate one at large spot by forcing the committee to take the regular season conference winner as well)

 Beyond that ,for better or worse,the bar is set slightly lower with additional teams this year

Harry
Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry

-----Original Message-----
From: neonrye at aol.com
Sender: nwu-sports-bounces at tssi.com
Date: Thu, 16 Feb 2012 14:15:46 
To: Willie Weinbaum<Willie.Weinbaum at espn.com>; <nwu-sports-bounces at tssi.com>
Reply-To: neonrye at aol.com
Cc: 'nwu-sports at tssi.com'<nwu-sports at tssi.com>
Subject: Re: [NU Sports] Sad

I think Willie is right on.  Carmody seems to be lobbying the. Selection Committee--very prematurely.  While they may have been sympathetic and disposed to lean over backwards to extend a slot to the "Cinderella" 'Cats for a first Dance at the March Mall, now they may lean the other way if they resent the pressure.  

Paul Levinson
Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry

-----Original Message-----
From: "Weinbaum, Willie" <Willie.Weinbaum at espn.com>
Sender: nwu-sports-bounces at tssi.com
Date: Thu, 16 Feb 2012 08:02:07 
Cc: 'nwu-sports at tssi.com'<nwu-sports at tssi.com>
Subject: Re: [NU Sports] Sad

I think you guys made very good points, but that Carmody would be best-served by avoiding saying what it might take to get to the NCAA's.  I just don't see how putting a 3-2 finish/a sub-.500 conference record out there as something of a "goal" is at all constructive.  Would seem to be much more prudent and upbeat to say, "We've lost some very tough ones despite playing well a lot of the time.  We have five games left and we want to be at our best in all of those and in the conference tournament, finish strong in every game and end with a really good run to get into the tournament.  If we can consistently play at our best, we think we can make it." 

Why dangle a 3-2 conclusion and an 8-10 slate, even if there is the possibility it'll be good enough (perhaps boosted by a win or two in the conf. tourney)?  Teams that have lost two straight winnable games have to focus on the next step, not on anything down the road.

This is an uphill climb and few think the Cats will pull it off.  I'd suggest that BC preach a version of the cliched, but apt "take it one game at a time and everything will fall into place." :)

----- Original Message -----
From: Beamsley, Jeff [mailto:Jeff.Beamsley at covisint.com]
Sent: Thursday, February 16, 2012 07:19 AM
To: Dennis W. Brandt <tbng at comcast.net>
Cc: nwu-sports at tssi.com <nwu-sports at tssi.com>
Subject: Re: [NU Sports] Sad

Definitely disappointing game.

Reminded me of early Jordan/bulls games. Jordan goes off for 45 and at the end of the game nobody else is willing to take a shot.

Carmody said in the trib today that he thought 8 conference wins would get them in the conversation. Still a chance to do that.

Jeff

Sent from my iPhone

On Feb 15, 2012, at 10:25 PM, "Dennis W. Brandt" <tbng at comcast.net> wrote:

> Shurna was outstanding and Marcotullio played exceptionally well, but they got hammered on the boards, especially in the first half, and were running on fumes at the end.  Same ol', same ol'.  Forget the big dance.  It's the NIT again - if they don't go completely into the tank after tonight.
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From j-hodges at alumni.northwestern.edu  Thu Feb 16 08:40:28 2012
From: j-hodges at alumni.northwestern.edu (Jonathan Hodges)
Date: Thu, 16 Feb 2012 09:40:28 -0500
Subject: [NU Sports] Sad
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The tournament was actually expanded last year (from 65 teams to 68) by
increasing the number of at-large bids from 34 to 37 (thereby now having 4
"play-in" games that they now call "first round" or "first four" games).
Two of those games (4 teams) are usually automatic bid teams from low tier
conferences playing for a 16 seed, and the other two are usually the last
at-large teams playing for 12 seeds (or thereabouts, I think they can
adjust these).

NU is helped by the generally lower quality of teams on "the bubble" this
year and the fact that the Big Ten is solidly the top conference in the
country.  In any case, NU needs to win at least 3 more regular season games
plus likely one conference tourney game to stay in the conversation.

The one thing that NU has done for itself is avoid any really "bad" loss
(loss to low RPI team) and their worst losses (which havent been that bad)
have come on the road.  BUT they must take care of business as they still
have PSU and Iowa on the road: two teams they've already beaten but who are
near the bottom of the conference and are definite must wins.

Jonathan

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On Thu, Feb 16, 2012 at 9:23 AM, <hakirsch at aol.com> wrote:

> I just want to remind the list that the field has expanded a bit this year.
>
> Part of the fate  may rest on whether any sub par teams from other
> conferences win their tournament and therefore take an extra spot (and
> effectively eliminate one at large spot by forcing the committee to take
> the regular season conference winner as well)
>
>  Beyond that ,for better or worse,the bar is set slightly lower with
> additional teams this year
>
> Harry
> Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: neonrye at aol.com
> Sender: nwu-sports-bounces at tssi.com
> Date: Thu, 16 Feb 2012 14:15:46
> To: Willie Weinbaum<Willie.Weinbaum at espn.com>; <
> nwu-sports-bounces at tssi.com>
> Reply-To: neonrye at aol.com
> Cc: 'nwu-sports at tssi.com'<nwu-sports at tssi.com>
> Subject: Re: [NU Sports] Sad
>
> I think Willie is right on.  Carmody seems to be lobbying the. Selection
> Committee--very prematurely.  While they may have been sympathetic and
> disposed to lean over backwards to extend a slot to the "Cinderella" 'Cats
> for a first Dance at the March Mall, now they may lean the other way if
> they resent the pressure.
>
> Paul Levinson
> Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: "Weinbaum, Willie" <Willie.Weinbaum at espn.com>
> Sender: nwu-sports-bounces at tssi.com
> Date: Thu, 16 Feb 2012 08:02:07
> Cc: 'nwu-sports at tssi.com'<nwu-sports at tssi.com>
> Subject: Re: [NU Sports] Sad
>
> I think you guys made very good points, but that Carmody would be
> best-served by avoiding saying what it might take to get to the NCAA's.  I
> just don't see how putting a 3-2 finish/a sub-.500 conference record out
> there as something of a "goal" is at all constructive.  Would seem to be
> much more prudent and upbeat to say, "We've lost some very tough ones
> despite playing well a lot of the time.  We have five games left and we
> want to be at our best in all of those and in the conference tournament,
> finish strong in every game and end with a really good run to get into the
> tournament.  If we can consistently play at our best, we think we can make
> it."
>
> Why dangle a 3-2 conclusion and an 8-10 slate, even if there is the
> possibility it'll be good enough (perhaps boosted by a win or two in the
> conf. tourney)?  Teams that have lost two straight winnable games have to
> focus on the next step, not on anything down the road.
>
> This is an uphill climb and few think the Cats will pull it off.  I'd
> suggest that BC preach a version of the cliched, but apt "take it one game
> at a time and everything will fall into place." :)
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Beamsley, Jeff [mailto:Jeff.Beamsley at covisint.com]
> Sent: Thursday, February 16, 2012 07:19 AM
> To: Dennis W. Brandt <tbng at comcast.net>
> Cc: nwu-sports at tssi.com <nwu-sports at tssi.com>
> Subject: Re: [NU Sports] Sad
>
> Definitely disappointing game.
>
> Reminded me of early Jordan/bulls games. Jordan goes off for 45 and at the
> end of the game nobody else is willing to take a shot.
>
> Carmody said in the trib today that he thought 8 conference wins would get
> them in the conversation. Still a chance to do that.
>
> Jeff
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Feb 15, 2012, at 10:25 PM, "Dennis W. Brandt" <tbng at comcast.net> wrote:
>
> > Shurna was outstanding and Marcotullio played exceptionally well, but
> they got hammered on the boards, especially in the first half, and were
> running on fumes at the end.  Same ol', same ol'.  Forget the big dance.
>  It's the NIT again - if they don't go completely into the tank after
> tonight.
> > _______________________________________________
> > nwu-sports site list
> > nwu-sports at tssi.com
> > http://romaine.tssi.com/mailman/listinfo/nwu-sports
> >
>
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From rstetson at capps-assoc.com  Thu Feb 16 09:35:05 2012
From: rstetson at capps-assoc.com (Roy S. Lamberton)
Date: Thu, 16 Feb 2012 10:35:05 -0500
Subject: [NU Sports] Sad
In-Reply-To: <1F89BB2CE7A5B94D969618E8CC769CC30147A029ED@XCHGBRS4.corp.espn.pvt>
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I just read the article with the quote from Carmody about what the Cats need to make the
tourney....

He was obviously asked, "What did you tell your team after the loss."

He responded 'You gotta get wins, fellas.' At 5-8, we're not in the discussion. We need to
get to eight (Big Ten wins) to get in the discussion. And we're playing at a decent
level."

It is Carmody stating the obvious - after two road losses, teams the Cats needed to beat,
they are not in the tourney discussion. If they want to get there, they have to win. What
he said is something we all have been flogging here for weeks.

Not sure he should have told the media (or Greenstein) that but he sometimes is honest to
a fault. (Remember the Blind Squirrel/Acorn crack after an early game?)

What I'm afraid is happening is that the rest of the team expects Shurna to somehow win
the game, and while you want the ball in his hands at the end, sometimes another player
has to step up and make the shot.

There were still too many missed shots by too many other players last night.

rsl




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-----Original Message-----
From: nwu-sports-bounces at tssi.com [mailto:nwu-sports-bounces at tssi.com] On Behalf Of
Weinbaum, Willie
Sent: Thursday, February 16, 2012 8:02 AM
Cc: 'nwu-sports at tssi.com'
Subject: Re: [NU Sports] Sad

I think you guys made very good points, but that Carmody would be best-served by avoiding
saying what it might take to get to the NCAA's.  I just don't see how putting a 3-2
finish/a sub-.500 conference record out there as something of a "goal" is at all
constructive.  Would seem to be much more prudent and upbeat to say, "We've lost some very
tough ones despite playing well a lot of the time.  We have five games left and we want to
be at our best in all of those and in the conference tournament, finish strong in every
game and end with a really good run to get into the tournament.  If we can consistently
play at our best, we think we can make it." 

Why dangle a 3-2 conclusion and an 8-10 slate, even if there is the possibility it'll be
good enough (perhaps boosted by a win or two in the conf. tourney)?  Teams that have lost
two straight winnable games have to focus on the next step, not on anything down the road.

This is an uphill climb and few think the Cats will pull it off.  I'd suggest that BC
preach a version of the cliched, but apt "take it one game at a time and everything will
fall into place." :)

----- Original Message -----
From: Beamsley, Jeff [mailto:Jeff.Beamsley at covisint.com]
Sent: Thursday, February 16, 2012 07:19 AM
To: Dennis W. Brandt <tbng at comcast.net>
Cc: nwu-sports at tssi.com <nwu-sports at tssi.com>
Subject: Re: [NU Sports] Sad

Definitely disappointing game.

Reminded me of early Jordan/bulls games. Jordan goes off for 45 and at the end of the game
nobody else is willing to take a shot.

Carmody said in the trib today that he thought 8 conference wins would get them in the
conversation. Still a chance to do that.

Jeff

Sent from my iPhone

On Feb 15, 2012, at 10:25 PM, "Dennis W. Brandt" <tbng at comcast.net> wrote:

> Shurna was outstanding and Marcotullio played exceptionally well, but they got hammered
on the boards, especially in the first half, and were running on fumes at the end.  Same
ol', same ol'.  Forget the big dance.  It's the NIT again - if they don't go completely
into the tank after tonight.
> _______________________________________________
> nwu-sports site list
> nwu-sports at tssi.com
> http://romaine.tssi.com/mailman/listinfo/nwu-sports
>

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From Willie.Weinbaum at espn.com  Thu Feb 16 09:39:04 2012
From: Willie.Weinbaum at espn.com (Weinbaum, Willie)
Date: Thu, 16 Feb 2012 10:39:04 -0500
Subject: [NU Sports] Sad
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That doesn't seem too bad, in all honesty.  Not like he said "if we finish 8-10, we're likely in."  He basically said we need to get back to winning, and with three (perhaps in a row now), we've got a shot.

I'll give him the benefit of a doubt on this one. :)

-----Original Message-----
From: Roy S. Lamberton [mailto:rstetson at capps-assoc.com] 
Sent: Thursday, February 16, 2012 10:35 AM
To: Weinbaum, Willie
Cc: nwu-sports at tssi.com
Subject: RE: [NU Sports] Sad

I just read the article with the quote from Carmody about what the Cats need to make the tourney....

He was obviously asked, "What did you tell your team after the loss."

He responded 'You gotta get wins, fellas.' At 5-8, we're not in the discussion. We need to get to eight (Big Ten wins) to get in the discussion. And we're playing at a decent level."

It is Carmody stating the obvious - after two road losses, teams the Cats needed to beat, they are not in the tourney discussion. If they want to get there, they have to win. What he said is something we all have been flogging here for weeks.

Not sure he should have told the media (or Greenstein) that but he sometimes is honest to a fault. (Remember the Blind Squirrel/Acorn crack after an early game?)

What I'm afraid is happening is that the rest of the team expects Shurna to somehow win the game, and while you want the ball in his hands at the end, sometimes another player has to step up and make the shot.

There were still too many missed shots by too many other players last night.

rsl




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Computer Applications & Support Associates Coach Roy's Random Thoughts - http://coachroy.org
--------------------- Also ---------------------- "Commissioner" Delaware American Legion Baseball Director Media Relations - Little League
  Senior League Softball World Series
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                   -- Pete Hamill, "Prohibition"
===========  Go Cats -? Beat 'em All  ===========


-----Original Message-----
From: nwu-sports-bounces at tssi.com [mailto:nwu-sports-bounces at tssi.com] On Behalf Of Weinbaum, Willie
Sent: Thursday, February 16, 2012 8:02 AM
Cc: 'nwu-sports at tssi.com'
Subject: Re: [NU Sports] Sad

I think you guys made very good points, but that Carmody would be best-served by avoiding saying what it might take to get to the NCAA's.  I just don't see how putting a 3-2 finish/a sub-.500 conference record out there as something of a "goal" is at all constructive.  Would seem to be much more prudent and upbeat to say, "We've lost some very tough ones despite playing well a lot of the time.  We have five games left and we want to be at our best in all of those and in the conference tournament, finish strong in every game and end with a really good run to get into the tournament.  If we can consistently play at our best, we think we can make it." 

Why dangle a 3-2 conclusion and an 8-10 slate, even if there is the possibility it'll be good enough (perhaps boosted by a win or two in the conf. tourney)?  Teams that have lost two straight winnable games have to focus on the next step, not on anything down the road.

This is an uphill climb and few think the Cats will pull it off.  I'd suggest that BC preach a version of the cliched, but apt "take it one game at a time and everything will fall into place." :)

----- Original Message -----
From: Beamsley, Jeff [mailto:Jeff.Beamsley at covisint.com]
Sent: Thursday, February 16, 2012 07:19 AM
To: Dennis W. Brandt <tbng at comcast.net>
Cc: nwu-sports at tssi.com <nwu-sports at tssi.com>
Subject: Re: [NU Sports] Sad

Definitely disappointing game.

Reminded me of early Jordan/bulls games. Jordan goes off for 45 and at the end of the game nobody else is willing to take a shot.

Carmody said in the trib today that he thought 8 conference wins would get them in the conversation. Still a chance to do that.

Jeff

Sent from my iPhone

On Feb 15, 2012, at 10:25 PM, "Dennis W. Brandt" <tbng at comcast.net> wrote:

> Shurna was outstanding and Marcotullio played exceptionally well, but 
> they got hammered
on the boards, especially in the first half, and were running on fumes at the end.  Same ol', same ol'.  Forget the big dance.  It's the NIT again - if they don't go completely into the tank after tonight.
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From tkmaycock at yahoo.com  Thu Feb 16 09:52:21 2012
From: tkmaycock at yahoo.com (Tom Maycock)
Date: Thu, 16 Feb 2012 07:52:21 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [NU Sports] Sad
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>That doesn't seem too bad, in all honesty.? Not like he said "if we finish 8-10, we're likely in."? He basically said we need to get back to winning, and with three (perhaps in a row now), we've got a shot.


Yep. He basically said "we need to win, not just come close". How anyone can find fault with that is beyond me.?

That was another tough loss last night, although it didn't depress me like several of the home losses did. I think that's because it was, overall, a strong effort against a pretty (very?) good team. I do die a little bit every time they give up an offensive rebound though. It must kill Hardy.

Tom


From Jeff.Beamsley at covisint.com  Thu Feb 16 09:57:42 2012
From: Jeff.Beamsley at covisint.com (Beamsley, Jeff)
Date: Thu, 16 Feb 2012 10:57:42 -0500
Subject: [NU Sports] Sad
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I agree with Roy.
 
Whether it was wise for Carmody to comment or not is a different discussions.
 
He was stating the obvious.
 
BT usually sends 7 teams to the dance.
 
Iowa is currently 7th.
 
We are tied for 8th with Illnoise and Minny.
 
We play both Iowa and Minny.  If we beat them both and PSU, we are in good shape to finish 7th at 8-10 and hold the tie breaker over both of them.  Illnois has to beat either UM, Wisky, or OSU in addition to Iowa and Nebraska to get to 8-10.  If we beat Michigan or OSU at home too, we are 9-9 and going to the dance.
 
Jeff

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From: nwu-sports-bounces at tssi.com on behalf of Roy S. Lamberton
Sent: Thu 2/16/2012 10:35 AM
To: 'Weinbaum, Willie'
Cc: nwu-sports at tssi.com
Subject: Re: [NU Sports] Sad



I just read the article with the quote from Carmody about what the Cats need to make the
tourney....

He was obviously asked, "What did you tell your team after the loss."

He responded 'You gotta get wins, fellas.' At 5-8, we're not in the discussion. We need to
get to eight (Big Ten wins) to get in the discussion. And we're playing at a decent
level."

It is Carmody stating the obvious - after two road losses, teams the Cats needed to beat,
they are not in the tourney discussion. If they want to get there, they have to win. What
he said is something we all have been flogging here for weeks.

Not sure he should have told the media (or Greenstein) that but he sometimes is honest to
a fault. (Remember the Blind Squirrel/Acorn crack after an early game?)

What I'm afraid is happening is that the rest of the team expects Shurna to somehow win
the game, and while you want the ball in his hands at the end, sometimes another player
has to step up and make the shot.

There were still too many missed shots by too many other players last night.

rsl




+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
Opinions expressed above are mine alone and are not
those of any organizations of which I am a member.
+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
Roy S. Lamberton - Senior Associate.
Computer Applications & Support Associates
Coach Roy's Random Thoughts - http://coachroy.org <http://coachroy.org/> 
--------------------- Also ----------------------
"Commissioner" Delaware American Legion Baseball
Director Media Relations - Little League
  Senior League Softball World Series
CTR2 USN (67-70) - CTRCS USNR (Ret) (64-67/70-95)
Northwestern University - Speech 1974 -
Chi Phi: Pi 1974, KD 1968
Publisher Emeritus: Purple Reign (Fox Sports)
=================================================
There is nothing wrong with America that the faith,
love of freedom, intelligence and energy of her citizens
cannot cure - Dwight D. Eisenhower
=  =  =  =  =  =  =  =  =  =  =  =  =  =  =  =  =
If we become a country in which we say, 'Please,
tell me how to live,' We're Doomed!"
                   -- Pete Hamill, "Prohibition"
===========  Go Cats -  Beat 'em All  ===========


-----Original Message-----
From: nwu-sports-bounces at tssi.com [mailto:nwu-sports-bounces at tssi.com] On Behalf Of
Weinbaum, Willie
Sent: Thursday, February 16, 2012 8:02 AM
Cc: 'nwu-sports at tssi.com'
Subject: Re: [NU Sports] Sad

I think you guys made very good points, but that Carmody would be best-served by avoiding
saying what it might take to get to the NCAA's.  I just don't see how putting a 3-2
finish/a sub-.500 conference record out there as something of a "goal" is at all
constructive.  Would seem to be much more prudent and upbeat to say, "We've lost some very
tough ones despite playing well a lot of the time.  We have five games left and we want to
be at our best in all of those and in the conference tournament, finish strong in every
game and end with a really good run to get into the tournament.  If we can consistently
play at our best, we think we can make it."

Why dangle a 3-2 conclusion and an 8-10 slate, even if there is the possibility it'll be
good enough (perhaps boosted by a win or two in the conf. tourney)?  Teams that have lost
two straight winnable games have to focus on the next step, not on anything down the road.

This is an uphill climb and few think the Cats will pull it off.  I'd suggest that BC
preach a version of the cliched, but apt "take it one game at a time and everything will
fall into place." :)

----- Original Message -----
From: Beamsley, Jeff [mailto:Jeff.Beamsley at covisint.com]
Sent: Thursday, February 16, 2012 07:19 AM
To: Dennis W. Brandt <tbng at comcast.net>
Cc: nwu-sports at tssi.com <nwu-sports at tssi.com>
Subject: Re: [NU Sports] Sad

Definitely disappointing game.

Reminded me of early Jordan/bulls games. Jordan goes off for 45 and at the end of the game
nobody else is willing to take a shot.

Carmody said in the trib today that he thought 8 conference wins would get them in the
conversation. Still a chance to do that.

Jeff

Sent from my iPhone

On Feb 15, 2012, at 10:25 PM, "Dennis W. Brandt" <tbng at comcast.net> wrote:

> Shurna was outstanding and Marcotullio played exceptionally well, but they got hammered
on the boards, especially in the first half, and were running on fumes at the end.  Same
ol', same ol'.  Forget the big dance.  It's the NIT again - if they don't go completely
into the tank after tonight.
> _______________________________________________
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> nwu-sports at tssi.com
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From sportsbiz at gmail.com  Thu Feb 16 10:02:05 2012
From: sportsbiz at gmail.com (Mark Ament)
Date: Thu, 16 Feb 2012 11:02:05 -0500
Subject: [NU Sports] Sad
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Keep in mind also that the Big Ten has been ranked number in the rip conference rankings all year, and it's hasn't been close.  That.greatly contributes to to the Cats rpi of 44. While I agree with Willie that it probably wasn't the best thing to say publicly, I also agree with Carmody that 8 wins gets u in, especially if one of those wins is Michigan.
Mark

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sportsbiz at gmail.com



On Feb 16, 2012, at 9:23 AM, hakirsch at aol.com wrote:

> I just want to remind the list that the field has expanded a bit this year. 
> 
> Part of the fate  may rest on whether any sub par teams from other conferences win their tournament and therefore take an extra spot (and effectively eliminate one at large spot by forcinghe Cats rip ranking, as does a relatively tough non-conference slat.  Although I  the committee to take the regular season conference winner as well)
> totes
> Beyond that ,for better or worse,the bar is set slightly lower with additional teams this year
> 
> Harry
> Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: neonrye at aol.com
> Sender: nwu-sports-bounces at tssi.com
> Date: Thu, 16 Feb 2012 14:15:46 
> To: Willie Weinbaum<Willie.Weinbaum at espn.com>; <nwu-sports-bounces at tssi.com>
> Reply-To: neonrye at aol.com
> Cc: 'nwu-sports at tssi.com'<nwu-sports at tssi.com>
> Subject: Re: [NU Sports] Sad
> 
> I think Willie is right on.  Carmody seems to be lobbying the. Selection Committee--very prematurely.  While they may have been sympathetic and disposed to lean over backwards to extend a slot to the "Cinderella" 'Cats for a first Dance at the March Mall, now they may lean the other way if they resent the pressure.  
> 
> Paul Levinson
> Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: "Weinbaum, Willie" <Willie.Weinbaum at espn.com>
> Sender: nwu-sports-bounces at tssi.com
> Date: Thu, 16 Feb 2012 08:02:07 
> Cc: 'nwu-sports at tssi.com'<nwu-sports at tssi.com>
> Subject: Re: [NU Sports] Sad
> 
> I think you guys made very good points, but that Carmody would be best-served by avoiding saying what it might take to get to the NCAA's.  I just don't see how putting a 3-2 finish/a sub-.500 conference record out there as something of a "goal" is at all constructive.  Would seem to be much more prudent and upbeat to say, "We've lost some very tough ones despite playing well a lot of the time.  We have five games left and we want to be at our best in all of those and in the conference tournament, finish strong in every game and end with a really good run to get into the tournament.  If we can consistently play at our best, we think we can make it." 
> 
> Why dangle a 3-2 conclusion and an 8-10 slate, even if there is the possibility it'll be good enough (perhaps boosted by a win or two in the conf. tourney)?  Teams that have lost two straight winnable games have to focus on the next step, not on anything down the road.
> 
> This is an uphill climb and few think the Cats will pull it off.  I'd suggest that BC preach a version of the cliched, but apt "take it one game at a time and everything will fall into place." :)
> 
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Beamsley, Jeff [mailto:Jeff.Beamsley at covisint.com]
> Sent: Thursday, February 16, 2012 07:19 AM
> To: Dennis W. Brandt <tbng at comcast.net>
> Cc: nwu-sports at tssi.com <nwu-sports at tssi.com>
> Subject: Re: [NU Sports] Sad
> 
> Definitely disappointing game.
> 
> Reminded me of early Jordan/bulls games. Jordan goes off for 45 and at the end of the game nobody else is willing to take a shot.
> 
> Carmody said in the trib today that he thought 8 conference wins would get them in the conversation. Still a chance to do that.
> 
> Jeff
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
> On Feb 15, 2012, at 10:25 PM, "Dennis W. Brandt" <tbng at comcast.net> wrote:
> 
>> Shurna was outstanding and Marcotullio played exceptionally well, but they got hammered on the boards, especially in the first half, and were running on fumes at the end.  Same ol', same ol'.  Forget the big dance.  It's the NIT again - if they don't go completely into the tank after tonight.
>> _______________________________________________
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From hakirsch at aol.com  Thu Feb 16 10:38:25 2012
From: hakirsch at aol.com (hakirsch at aol.com)
Date: Thu, 16 Feb 2012 16:38:25 +0000
Subject: [NU Sports] Sad
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From the late Al Davis 
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-----Original Message-----
From: "Roy S. Lamberton" <rstetson at capps-assoc.com>
Date: Thu, 16 Feb 2012 11:37:29 
To: 'Mark Ament'<sportsbiz at gmail.com>; <hakirsch at aol.com>
Cc: <nwu-sports at tssi.com>; <nwu-sports-bounces at tssi.com>
Subject: RE: [NU Sports] Sad

What's the old saying?

"Just Win, Baby"

[maybe the Women's Lacrosse team could sit under the basket for the Michigan or dOSU game?
- you know, inspiration?]

rsl

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Opinions expressed above are mine alone and are not
those of any organizations of which I am a member.
+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
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Computer Applications & Support Associates
Coach Roy's Random Thoughts - http://coachroy.org
--------------------- Also ----------------------
"Commissioner" Delaware American Legion Baseball
Director Media Relations - Little League 
  Senior League Softball World Series
CTR2 USN (67-70) - CTRCS USNR (Ret) (64-67/70-95)
Northwestern University - Speech 1974 - 
Chi Phi: Pi 1974, KD 1968
Publisher Emeritus: Purple Reign (Fox Sports)
=================================================
There is nothing wrong with America that the faith, 
love of freedom, intelligence and energy of her citizens 
cannot cure - Dwight D. Eisenhower
=  =  =  =  =  =  =  =  =  =  =  =  =  =  =  =  =
If we become a country in which we say, 'Please, 
tell me how to live,' We're Doomed!"
                   -- Pete Hamill, "Prohibition"
===========  Go Cats -? Beat 'em All  ===========



-----Original Message-----
From: nwu-sports-bounces at tssi.com [mailto:nwu-sports-bounces at tssi.com] On Behalf Of Mark
Ament
Sent: Thursday, February 16, 2012 11:02 AM
To: hakirsch at aol.com
Cc: nwu-sports at tssi.com; nwu-sports-bounces at tssi.com
Subject: Re: [NU Sports] Sad

Keep in mind also that the Big Ten has been ranked number in the rip conference rankings
all year, and it's hasn't been close.  That.greatly contributes to to the Cats rpi of 44.
While I agree with Willie that it probably wasn't the best thing to say publicly, I also
agree with Carmody that 8 wins gets u in, especially if one of those wins is Michigan.
Mark

 Mark S. Ament
sportsbiz at gmail.com



On Feb 16, 2012, at 9:23 AM, hakirsch at aol.com wrote:

> I just want to remind the list that the field has expanded a bit this year. 
> 
> Part of the fate  may rest on whether any sub par teams from other 
> conferences win their tournament and therefore take an extra spot (and 
> effectively eliminate one at large spot by forcinghe Cats rip ranking, 
> as does a relatively tough non-conference slat.  Although I  the 
> committee to take the regular season conference winner as well) totes 
> Beyond that ,for better or worse,the bar is set slightly lower with 
> additional teams this year
> 
> Harry
> Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: neonrye at aol.com
> Sender: nwu-sports-bounces at tssi.com
> Date: Thu, 16 Feb 2012 14:15:46
> To: Willie Weinbaum<Willie.Weinbaum at espn.com>; 
> <nwu-sports-bounces at tssi.com>
> Reply-To: neonrye at aol.com
> Cc: 'nwu-sports at tssi.com'<nwu-sports at tssi.com>
> Subject: Re: [NU Sports] Sad
> 
> I think Willie is right on.  Carmody seems to be lobbying the. Selection Committee--very
prematurely.  While they may have been sympathetic and disposed to lean over backwards to
extend a slot to the "Cinderella" 'Cats for a first Dance at the March Mall, now they may
lean the other way if they resent the pressure.  
> 
> Paul Levinson
> Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: "Weinbaum, Willie" <Willie.Weinbaum at espn.com>
> Sender: nwu-sports-bounces at tssi.com
> Date: Thu, 16 Feb 2012 08:02:07
> Cc: 'nwu-sports at tssi.com'<nwu-sports at tssi.com>
> Subject: Re: [NU Sports] Sad
> 
> I think you guys made very good points, but that Carmody would be best-served by
avoiding saying what it might take to get to the NCAA's.  I just don't see how putting a
3-2 finish/a sub-.500 conference record out there as something of a "goal" is at all
constructive.  Would seem to be much more prudent and upbeat to say, "We've lost some very
tough ones despite playing well a lot of the time.  We have five games left and we want to
be at our best in all of those and in the conference tournament, finish strong in every
game and end with a really good run to get into the tournament.  If we can consistently
play at our best, we think we can make it." 
> 
> Why dangle a 3-2 conclusion and an 8-10 slate, even if there is the possibility it'll be
good enough (perhaps boosted by a win or two in the conf. tourney)?  Teams that have lost
two straight winnable games have to focus on the next step, not on anything down the road.
> 
> This is an uphill climb and few think the Cats will pull it off.  I'd 
> suggest that BC preach a version of the cliched, but apt "take it one 
> game at a time and everything will fall into place." :)
> 
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Beamsley, Jeff [mailto:Jeff.Beamsley at covisint.com]
> Sent: Thursday, February 16, 2012 07:19 AM
> To: Dennis W. Brandt <tbng at comcast.net>
> Cc: nwu-sports at tssi.com <nwu-sports at tssi.com>
> Subject: Re: [NU Sports] Sad
> 
> Definitely disappointing game.
> 
> Reminded me of early Jordan/bulls games. Jordan goes off for 45 and at the end of the
game nobody else is willing to take a shot.
> 
> Carmody said in the trib today that he thought 8 conference wins would get them in the
conversation. Still a chance to do that.
> 
> Jeff
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
> On Feb 15, 2012, at 10:25 PM, "Dennis W. Brandt" <tbng at comcast.net> wrote:
> 
>> Shurna was outstanding and Marcotullio played exceptionally well, but they got hammered
on the boards, especially in the first half, and were running on fumes at the end.  Same
ol', same ol'.  Forget the big dance.  It's the NIT again - if they don't go completely
into the tank after tonight.
>> _______________________________________________
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>> 
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From rstetson at capps-assoc.com  Thu Feb 16 10:37:29 2012
From: rstetson at capps-assoc.com (Roy S. Lamberton)
Date: Thu, 16 Feb 2012 11:37:29 -0500
Subject: [NU Sports] Sad
In-Reply-To: <F452B517-19A4-464E-A462-E2F7CABE2B53@gmail.com>
References: <18CEDB3E-D391-49E6-95F8-A5B0D67F4D48@covisint.com>
 <1F89BB2CE7A5B94D969618E8CC769CC30147A029ED@XCHGBRS4.corp.espn.pvt>
 <1270945801-1329401599-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-193607247-@b5.c19.bise6.blackberry>
 <886169442-1329402204-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-1104722089-@b11.c7.bise6.blackberry>
 <F452B517-19A4-464E-A462-E2F7CABE2B53@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <000a01ccecc9$46d33450$d4799cf0$@com>

What's the old saying?

"Just Win, Baby"

[maybe the Women's Lacrosse team could sit under the basket for the Michigan or dOSU game?
- you know, inspiration?]

rsl

+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
Opinions expressed above are mine alone and are not
those of any organizations of which I am a member.
+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
Roy S. Lamberton - Senior Associate.
Computer Applications & Support Associates
Coach Roy's Random Thoughts - http://coachroy.org
--------------------- Also ----------------------
"Commissioner" Delaware American Legion Baseball
Director Media Relations - Little League 
  Senior League Softball World Series
CTR2 USN (67-70) - CTRCS USNR (Ret) (64-67/70-95)
Northwestern University - Speech 1974 - 
Chi Phi: Pi 1974, KD 1968
Publisher Emeritus: Purple Reign (Fox Sports)
=================================================
There is nothing wrong with America that the faith, 
love of freedom, intelligence and energy of her citizens 
cannot cure - Dwight D. Eisenhower
=  =  =  =  =  =  =  =  =  =  =  =  =  =  =  =  =
If we become a country in which we say, 'Please, 
tell me how to live,' We're Doomed!"
                   -- Pete Hamill, "Prohibition"
===========  Go Cats -? Beat 'em All  ===========



-----Original Message-----
From: nwu-sports-bounces at tssi.com [mailto:nwu-sports-bounces at tssi.com] On Behalf Of Mark
Ament
Sent: Thursday, February 16, 2012 11:02 AM
To: hakirsch at aol.com
Cc: nwu-sports at tssi.com; nwu-sports-bounces at tssi.com
Subject: Re: [NU Sports] Sad

Keep in mind also that the Big Ten has been ranked number in the rip conference rankings
all year, and it's hasn't been close.  That.greatly contributes to to the Cats rpi of 44.
While I agree with Willie that it probably wasn't the best thing to say publicly, I also
agree with Carmody that 8 wins gets u in, especially if one of those wins is Michigan.
Mark

 Mark S. Ament
sportsbiz at gmail.com



On Feb 16, 2012, at 9:23 AM, hakirsch at aol.com wrote:

> I just want to remind the list that the field has expanded a bit this year. 
> 
> Part of the fate  may rest on whether any sub par teams from other 
> conferences win their tournament and therefore take an extra spot (and 
> effectively eliminate one at large spot by forcinghe Cats rip ranking, 
> as does a relatively tough non-conference slat.  Although I  the 
> committee to take the regular season conference winner as well) totes 
> Beyond that ,for better or worse,the bar is set slightly lower with 
> additional teams this year
> 
> Harry
> Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: neonrye at aol.com
> Sender: nwu-sports-bounces at tssi.com
> Date: Thu, 16 Feb 2012 14:15:46
> To: Willie Weinbaum<Willie.Weinbaum at espn.com>; 
> <nwu-sports-bounces at tssi.com>
> Reply-To: neonrye at aol.com
> Cc: 'nwu-sports at tssi.com'<nwu-sports at tssi.com>
> Subject: Re: [NU Sports] Sad
> 
> I think Willie is right on.  Carmody seems to be lobbying the. Selection Committee--very
prematurely.  While they may have been sympathetic and disposed to lean over backwards to
extend a slot to the "Cinderella" 'Cats for a first Dance at the March Mall, now they may
lean the other way if they resent the pressure.  
> 
> Paul Levinson
> Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: "Weinbaum, Willie" <Willie.Weinbaum at espn.com>
> Sender: nwu-sports-bounces at tssi.com
> Date: Thu, 16 Feb 2012 08:02:07
> Cc: 'nwu-sports at tssi.com'<nwu-sports at tssi.com>
> Subject: Re: [NU Sports] Sad
> 
> I think you guys made very good points, but that Carmody would be best-served by
avoiding saying what it might take to get to the NCAA's.  I just don't see how putting a
3-2 finish/a sub-.500 conference record out there as something of a "goal" is at all
constructive.  Would seem to be much more prudent and upbeat to say, "We've lost some very
tough ones despite playing well a lot of the time.  We have five games left and we want to
be at our best in all of those and in the conference tournament, finish strong in every
game and end with a really good run to get into the tournament.  If we can consistently
play at our best, we think we can make it." 
> 
> Why dangle a 3-2 conclusion and an 8-10 slate, even if there is the possibility it'll be
good enough (perhaps boosted by a win or two in the conf. tourney)?  Teams that have lost
two straight winnable games have to focus on the next step, not on anything down the road.
> 
> This is an uphill climb and few think the Cats will pull it off.  I'd 
> suggest that BC preach a version of the cliched, but apt "take it one 
> game at a time and everything will fall into place." :)
> 
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Beamsley, Jeff [mailto:Jeff.Beamsley at covisint.com]
> Sent: Thursday, February 16, 2012 07:19 AM
> To: Dennis W. Brandt <tbng at comcast.net>
> Cc: nwu-sports at tssi.com <nwu-sports at tssi.com>
> Subject: Re: [NU Sports] Sad
> 
> Definitely disappointing game.
> 
> Reminded me of early Jordan/bulls games. Jordan goes off for 45 and at the end of the
game nobody else is willing to take a shot.
> 
> Carmody said in the trib today that he thought 8 conference wins would get them in the
conversation. Still a chance to do that.
> 
> Jeff
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
> On Feb 15, 2012, at 10:25 PM, "Dennis W. Brandt" <tbng at comcast.net> wrote:
> 
>> Shurna was outstanding and Marcotullio played exceptionally well, but they got hammered
on the boards, especially in the first half, and were running on fumes at the end.  Same
ol', same ol'.  Forget the big dance.  It's the NIT again - if they don't go completely
into the tank after tonight.
>> _______________________________________________
>> nwu-sports site list
>> nwu-sports at tssi.com
>> http://romaine.tssi.com/mailman/listinfo/nwu-sports
>> 
> 
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> 
> Please consider the environment before printing this e-mail.
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From Willie.Weinbaum at espn.com  Thu Feb 16 10:42:27 2012
From: Willie.Weinbaum at espn.com (Weinbaum, Willie)
Date: Thu, 16 Feb 2012 11:42:27 -0500
Subject: [NU Sports] Sad
In-Reply-To: <452921262-1329410307-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-482128689-@b11.c7.bise6.blackberry>
Message-ID: <1F89BB2CE7A5B94D969618E8CC769CC30147A029F4@XCHGBRS4.corp.espn.pvt>

In NY these days, we're saying "Just LIN, baby."

----- Original Message -----
From: hakirsch at aol.com [mailto:hakirsch at aol.com]
Sent: Thursday, February 16, 2012 11:38 AM
To: Roy S. Lamberton <rstetson at capps-assoc.com>; 'Mark Ament' <sportsbiz at gmail.com>
Cc: nwu-sports-bounces at tssi.com <nwu-sports-bounces at tssi.com>; nwu-sports at tssi.com <nwu-sports at tssi.com>
Subject: Re: [NU Sports] Sad

>From the late Al Davis 
Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry

-----Original Message-----
From: "Roy S. Lamberton" <rstetson at capps-assoc.com>
Date: Thu, 16 Feb 2012 11:37:29 
To: 'Mark Ament'<sportsbiz at gmail.com>; <hakirsch at aol.com>
Cc: <nwu-sports at tssi.com>; <nwu-sports-bounces at tssi.com>
Subject: RE: [NU Sports] Sad

What's the old saying?

"Just Win, Baby"

[maybe the Women's Lacrosse team could sit under the basket for the Michigan or dOSU game?
- you know, inspiration?]

rsl

+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
Opinions expressed above are mine alone and are not
those of any organizations of which I am a member.
+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
Roy S. Lamberton - Senior Associate.
Computer Applications & Support Associates
Coach Roy's Random Thoughts - http://coachroy.org
--------------------- Also ----------------------
"Commissioner" Delaware American Legion Baseball
Director Media Relations - Little League 
  Senior League Softball World Series
CTR2 USN (67-70) - CTRCS USNR (Ret) (64-67/70-95)
Northwestern University - Speech 1974 - 
Chi Phi: Pi 1974, KD 1968
Publisher Emeritus: Purple Reign (Fox Sports)
=================================================
There is nothing wrong with America that the faith, 
love of freedom, intelligence and energy of her citizens 
cannot cure - Dwight D. Eisenhower
=  =  =  =  =  =  =  =  =  =  =  =  =  =  =  =  =
If we become a country in which we say, 'Please, 
tell me how to live,' We're Doomed!"
                   -- Pete Hamill, "Prohibition"
===========  Go Cats -? Beat 'em All  ===========



-----Original Message-----
From: nwu-sports-bounces at tssi.com [mailto:nwu-sports-bounces at tssi.com] On Behalf Of Mark
Ament
Sent: Thursday, February 16, 2012 11:02 AM
To: hakirsch at aol.com
Cc: nwu-sports at tssi.com; nwu-sports-bounces at tssi.com
Subject: Re: [NU Sports] Sad

Keep in mind also that the Big Ten has been ranked number in the rip conference rankings
all year, and it's hasn't been close.  That.greatly contributes to to the Cats rpi of 44.
While I agree with Willie that it probably wasn't the best thing to say publicly, I also
agree with Carmody that 8 wins gets u in, especially if one of those wins is Michigan.
Mark

 Mark S. Ament
sportsbiz at gmail.com



On Feb 16, 2012, at 9:23 AM, hakirsch at aol.com wrote:

> I just want to remind the list that the field has expanded a bit this year. 
> 
> Part of the fate  may rest on whether any sub par teams from other 
> conferences win their tournament and therefore take an extra spot (and 
> effectively eliminate one at large spot by forcinghe Cats rip ranking, 
> as does a relatively tough non-conference slat.  Although I  the 
> committee to take the regular season conference winner as well) totes 
> Beyond that ,for better or worse,the bar is set slightly lower with 
> additional teams this year
> 
> Harry
> Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: neonrye at aol.com
> Sender: nwu-sports-bounces at tssi.com
> Date: Thu, 16 Feb 2012 14:15:46
> To: Willie Weinbaum<Willie.Weinbaum at espn.com>; 
> <nwu-sports-bounces at tssi.com>
> Reply-To: neonrye at aol.com
> Cc: 'nwu-sports at tssi.com'<nwu-sports at tssi.com>
> Subject: Re: [NU Sports] Sad
> 
> I think Willie is right on.  Carmody seems to be lobbying the. Selection Committee--very
prematurely.  While they may have been sympathetic and disposed to lean over backwards to
extend a slot to the "Cinderella" 'Cats for a first Dance at the March Mall, now they may
lean the other way if they resent the pressure.  
> 
> Paul Levinson
> Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: "Weinbaum, Willie" <Willie.Weinbaum at espn.com>
> Sender: nwu-sports-bounces at tssi.com
> Date: Thu, 16 Feb 2012 08:02:07
> Cc: 'nwu-sports at tssi.com'<nwu-sports at tssi.com>
> Subject: Re: [NU Sports] Sad
> 
> I think you guys made very good points, but that Carmody would be best-served by
avoiding saying what it might take to get to the NCAA's.  I just don't see how putting a
3-2 finish/a sub-.500 conference record out there as something of a "goal" is at all
constructive.  Would seem to be much more prudent and upbeat to say, "We've lost some very
tough ones despite playing well a lot of the time.  We have five games left and we want to
be at our best in all of those and in the conference tournament, finish strong in every
game and end with a really good run to get into the tournament.  If we can consistently
play at our best, we think we can make it." 
> 
> Why dangle a 3-2 conclusion and an 8-10 slate, even if there is the possibility it'll be
good enough (perhaps boosted by a win or two in the conf. tourney)?  Teams that have lost
two straight winnable games have to focus on the next step, not on anything down the road.
> 
> This is an uphill climb and few think the Cats will pull it off.  I'd 
> suggest that BC preach a version of the cliched, but apt "take it one 
> game at a time and everything will fall into place." :)
> 
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Beamsley, Jeff [mailto:Jeff.Beamsley at covisint.com]
> Sent: Thursday, February 16, 2012 07:19 AM
> To: Dennis W. Brandt <tbng at comcast.net>
> Cc: nwu-sports at tssi.com <nwu-sports at tssi.com>
> Subject: Re: [NU Sports] Sad
> 
> Definitely disappointing game.
> 
> Reminded me of early Jordan/bulls games. Jordan goes off for 45 and at the end of the
game nobody else is willing to take a shot.
> 
> Carmody said in the trib today that he thought 8 conference wins would get them in the
conversation. Still a chance to do that.
> 
> Jeff
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
> On Feb 15, 2012, at 10:25 PM, "Dennis W. Brandt" <tbng at comcast.net> wrote:
> 
>> Shurna was outstanding and Marcotullio played exceptionally well, but they got hammered
on the boards, especially in the first half, and were running on fumes at the end.  Same
ol', same ol'.  Forget the big dance.  It's the NIT again - if they don't go completely
into the tank after tonight.
>> _______________________________________________
>> nwu-sports site list
>> nwu-sports at tssi.com
>> http://romaine.tssi.com/mailman/listinfo/nwu-sports
>> 
> 
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From bwdolphin146 at yahoo.com  Thu Feb 16 12:58:52 2012
From: bwdolphin146 at yahoo.com (bwdolphin146 at yahoo.com)
Date: Thu, 16 Feb 2012 18:58:52 +0000
Subject: [NU Sports] Anybody else see a loss at Penn State coming?
Message-ID: <321623220-1329418732-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-1275471971-@b17.c29.bise6.blackberry>

It's a 9 pm start, the arena will be empty and cold, long trip and PSU owns the 'Cats at the Jordan Center. 

It would fully typical of NU hoops to beat Michigan and then lose to the Nits. 

Brad Wilson
Sent on the Sprint? Now Network from my BlackBerry?

From wildelk2 at aol.com  Thu Feb 16 14:26:43 2012
From: wildelk2 at aol.com (Eric Kunkel)
Date: Thu, 16 Feb 2012 15:26:43 -0500 (EST)
Subject: [NU Sports] Anybody else see a loss at Penn State coming?
In-Reply-To: <321623220-1329418732-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-1275471971-@b17.c29.bise6.blackberry>
References: <321623220-1329418732-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-1275471971-@b17.c29.bise6.blackberry>
Message-ID: <8CEBB006E632D23-1E7C-1AF8E@webmail-m005.sysops.aol.com>


I'm going to this game if we beat Minnesota and Michigan.  Despite a cold, unenthusiastic envirement, if we can't get up for this game after creeping to 7-8 in conference and getting back on the bubble, we can't get up for anything.

First, let's knock Minnesota out of NCAA consideration and take our shots at Michigan. We gave the Wolverines the game in Ann Arbor.

The last 2 losses have been punch in the stomach types, but going home for a week will help.\

GO CATS!!           Eric



-----Original Message-----
From: bwdolphin146 <bwdolphin146 at yahoo.com>
To: nwu-sports <nwu-sports at tssi.com>
Sent: Thu, Feb 16, 2012 2:00 pm
Subject: [NU Sports] Anybody else see a loss at Penn State coming?


It's a 9 pm start, the arena will be empty and cold, long trip and PSU owns the 
Cats at the Jordan Center. 
It would fully typical of NU hoops to beat Michigan and then lose to the Nits. 
Brad Wilson
ent on the Sprint? Now Network from my BlackBerry?
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From bwdolphin146 at yahoo.com  Thu Feb 16 14:28:49 2012
From: bwdolphin146 at yahoo.com (bwdolphin146 at yahoo.com)
Date: Thu, 16 Feb 2012 20:28:49 +0000
Subject: [NU Sports] Anybody else see a loss at Penn State coming?
In-Reply-To: <8CEBB006E632D23-1E7C-1AF8E@webmail-m005.sysops.aol.com>
References: <321623220-1329418732-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-1275471971-@b17.c29.bise6.blackberry>
 <8CEBB006E632D23-1E7C-1AF8E@webmail-m005.sysops.aol.com>
Message-ID: <193446031-1329424128-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-730413076-@b17.c29.bise6.blackberry>

You'd think so but that loss at Minnesota sticks in my craw too much. 

Bw
Sent on the Sprint? Now Network from my BlackBerry?

-----Original Message-----
From: Eric Kunkel <wildelk2 at aol.com>
Date: Thu, 16 Feb 2012 15:26:43 
To: <bwdolphin146 at yahoo.com>; <nwu-sports at tssi.com>
Subject: Re: [NU Sports] Anybody else see a loss at Penn State coming?


I'm going to this game if we beat Minnesota and Michigan.  Despite a cold, unenthusiastic envirement, if we can't get up for this game after creeping to 7-8 in conference and getting back on the bubble, we can't get up for anything.

First, let's knock Minnesota out of NCAA consideration and take our shots at Michigan. We gave the Wolverines the game in Ann Arbor.

The last 2 losses have been punch in the stomach types, but going home for a week will help.\

GO CATS!!           Eric



-----Original Message-----
From: bwdolphin146 <bwdolphin146 at yahoo.com>
To: nwu-sports <nwu-sports at tssi.com>
Sent: Thu, Feb 16, 2012 2:00 pm
Subject: [NU Sports] Anybody else see a loss at Penn State coming?


It's a 9 pm start, the arena will be empty and cold, long trip and PSU owns the 
Cats at the Jordan Center. 
It would fully typical of NU hoops to beat Michigan and then lose to the Nits. 
Brad Wilson
ent on the Sprint? Now Network from my BlackBerry?
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From rstetson at capps-assoc.com  Thu Feb 16 14:57:44 2012
From: rstetson at capps-assoc.com (Roy S. Lamberton)
Date: Thu, 16 Feb 2012 15:57:44 -0500
Subject: [NU Sports] Anybody else see a loss at Penn State coming?
In-Reply-To: <8CEBB006E632D23-1E7C-1AF8E@webmail-m005.sysops.aol.com>
References: <321623220-1329418732-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-1275471971-@b17.c29.bise6.blackberry>
 <8CEBB006E632D23-1E7C-1AF8E@webmail-m005.sysops.aol.com>
Message-ID: <000a01cceced$a2578230$e7068690$@com>

It is time we got that monkey off our back (the State Penn at home one).

But even Fitz is having trouble with the "game you should win to get the monkey off your back" monkey so....

Lets beat Minny and Michy and then worry about State Penn on the road. Remember we should have beaten PU on the road also.

rsl

+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
Opinions expressed above are mine alone and are not
those of any organizations of which I am a member.
+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
Roy S. Lamberton - Senior Associate.
Computer Applications & Support Associates
Coach Roy's Random Thoughts - http://coachroy.org
--------------------- Also ----------------------
"Commissioner" Delaware American Legion Baseball
Director Media Relations - Little League 
  Senior League Softball World Series
CTR2 USN (67-70) - CTRCS USNR (Ret) (64-67/70-95)
Northwestern University - Speech 1974 - 
Chi Phi: Pi 1974, KD 1968
Publisher Emeritus: Purple Reign (Fox Sports)
=================================================
There is nothing wrong with America that the faith, 
love of freedom, intelligence and energy of her citizens 
cannot cure - Dwight D. Eisenhower
=  =  =  =  =  =  =  =  =  =  =  =  =  =  =  =  =
If we become a country in which we say, 'Please, 
tell me how to live,' We're Doomed!"
                   -- Pete Hamill, "Prohibition"
===========  Go Cats -  Beat 'em All  ===========



-----Original Message-----
From: nwu-sports-bounces at tssi.com [mailto:nwu-sports-bounces at tssi.com] On Behalf Of Eric Kunkel
Sent: Thursday, February 16, 2012 3:27 PM
To: bwdolphin146 at yahoo.com; nwu-sports at tssi.com
Subject: Re: [NU Sports] Anybody else see a loss at Penn State coming?


I'm going to this game if we beat Minnesota and Michigan.  Despite a cold, unenthusiastic envirement, if we can't get up for this game after creeping to 7-8 in conference and getting back on the bubble, we can't get up for anything.

First, let's knock Minnesota out of NCAA consideration and take our shots at Michigan. We gave the Wolverines the game in Ann Arbor.

The last 2 losses have been punch in the stomach types, but going home for a week will help.\

GO CATS!!           Eric



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It's a 9 pm start, the arena will be empty and cold, long trip and PSU owns the Cats at the Jordan Center. 
It would fully typical of NU hoops to beat Michigan and then lose to the Nits. 
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From Jeff.Beamsley at covisint.com  Thu Feb 16 15:17:43 2012
From: Jeff.Beamsley at covisint.com (Beamsley, Jeff)
Date: Thu, 16 Feb 2012 16:17:43 -0500
Subject: [NU Sports] Anybody else see a loss at Penn State coming?
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These guys are still learning. Winning on the road in the BT is hard. 

They were dog tired at the end of the Indy game. 

Sobo found out what happens when they game plan against you. He has to adjust. 

Everybody else has to be willing to take the open looks they get at the end of the game because of the attention Shurna is going to get. 

Just need to win the next one. 

Jeff

Sent from my iPhone

On Feb 16, 2012, at 3:58 PM, "Roy S. Lamberton" <rstetson at capps-assoc.com> wrote:

> It is time we got that monkey off our back (the State Penn at home one).
> 
> But even Fitz is having trouble with the "game you should win to get the monkey off your back" monkey so....
> 
> Lets beat Minny and Michy and then worry about State Penn on the road. Remember we should have beaten PU on the road also.
> 
> rsl
> 
> +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
> Opinions expressed above are mine alone and are not
> those of any organizations of which I am a member.
> +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
> Roy S. Lamberton - Senior Associate.
> Computer Applications & Support Associates
> Coach Roy's Random Thoughts - http://coachroy.org
> --------------------- Also ----------------------
> "Commissioner" Delaware American Legion Baseball
> Director Media Relations - Little League 
>  Senior League Softball World Series
> CTR2 USN (67-70) - CTRCS USNR (Ret) (64-67/70-95)
> Northwestern University - Speech 1974 - 
> Chi Phi: Pi 1974, KD 1968
> Publisher Emeritus: Purple Reign (Fox Sports)
> =================================================
> There is nothing wrong with America that the faith, 
> love of freedom, intelligence and energy of her citizens 
> cannot cure - Dwight D. Eisenhower
> =  =  =  =  =  =  =  =  =  =  =  =  =  =  =  =  =
> If we become a country in which we say, 'Please, 
> tell me how to live,' We're Doomed!"
>                   -- Pete Hamill, "Prohibition"
> ===========  Go Cats -  Beat 'em All  ===========
> 
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: nwu-sports-bounces at tssi.com [mailto:nwu-sports-bounces at tssi.com] On Behalf Of Eric Kunkel
> Sent: Thursday, February 16, 2012 3:27 PM
> To: bwdolphin146 at yahoo.com; nwu-sports at tssi.com
> Subject: Re: [NU Sports] Anybody else see a loss at Penn State coming?
> 
> 
> I'm going to this game if we beat Minnesota and Michigan.  Despite a cold, unenthusiastic envirement, if we can't get up for this game after creeping to 7-8 in conference and getting back on the bubble, we can't get up for anything.
> 
> First, let's knock Minnesota out of NCAA consideration and take our shots at Michigan. We gave the Wolverines the game in Ann Arbor.
> 
> The last 2 losses have been punch in the stomach types, but going home for a week will help.\
> 
> GO CATS!!           Eric
> 
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: bwdolphin146 <bwdolphin146 at yahoo.com>
> To: nwu-sports <nwu-sports at tssi.com>
> Sent: Thu, Feb 16, 2012 2:00 pm
> Subject: [NU Sports] Anybody else see a loss at Penn State coming?
> 
> 
> It's a 9 pm start, the arena will be empty and cold, long trip and PSU owns the Cats at the Jordan Center. 
> It would fully typical of NU hoops to beat Michigan and then lose to the Nits. 
> Brad Wilson
> ent on the Sprint? Now Network from my BlackBerry? ______________________________________________
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From marks83588 at aol.com  Fri Feb 17 06:30:47 2012
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Date: Fri, 17 Feb 2012 07:30:47 -0500 (EST)
Subject: [NU Sports] Anybody else see a loss at Penn State coming?
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Normally I'd agree.But if NU beats Minny and UofM I think they beat PSU. They are playing well and while PSU has had their number they aren't nearly as good as they have been the last 2 years, and with Oliver out they are just as short handed as the Cats.

I will be in State Penn if NU wins at least one of the next two games!

NJCat

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To: Roy S. Lamberton <rstetson at capps-assoc.com>
Cc: nwu-sports <nwu-sports at tssi.com>; bwdolphin146 <bwdolphin146 at yahoo.com>
Sent: Thu, Feb 16, 2012 4:18 pm
Subject: Re: [NU Sports] Anybody else see a loss at Penn State coming?


These guys are still learning. Winning on the road in the BT is hard. 

They were dog tired at the end of the Indy game. 

Sobo found out what happens when they game plan against you. He has to adjust. 

Everybody else has to be willing to take the open looks they get at the end of 
the game because of the attention Shurna is going to get. 

Just need to win the next one. 

Jeff

Sent from my iPhone

On Feb 16, 2012, at 3:58 PM, "Roy S. Lamberton" <rstetson at capps-assoc.com> 
wrote:

> It is time we got that monkey off our back (the State Penn at home one).
> 
> But even Fitz is having trouble with the "game you should win to get the 
monkey off your back" monkey so....
> 
> Lets beat Minny and Michy and then worry about State Penn on the road. 
Remember we should have beaten PU on the road also.
> 
> rsl
> 
> +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
> Opinions expressed above are mine alone and are not
> those of any organizations of which I am a member.
> +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
> Roy S. Lamberton - Senior Associate.
> Computer Applications & Support Associates
> Coach Roy's Random Thoughts - http://coachroy.org
> --------------------- Also ----------------------
> "Commissioner" Delaware American Legion Baseball
> Director Media Relations - Little League 
>  Senior League Softball World Series
> CTR2 USN (67-70) - CTRCS USNR (Ret) (64-67/70-95)
> Northwestern University - Speech 1974 - 
> Chi Phi: Pi 1974, KD 1968
> Publisher Emeritus: Purple Reign (Fox Sports)
> =================================================
> There is nothing wrong with America that the faith, 
> love of freedom, intelligence and energy of her citizens 
> cannot cure - Dwight D. Eisenhower
> =  =  =  =  =  =  =  =  =  =  =  =  =  =  =  =  =
> If we become a country in which we say, 'Please, 
> tell me how to live,' We're Doomed!"
>                   -- Pete Hamill, "Prohibition"
> ===========  Go Cats -  Beat 'em All  ===========
> 
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: nwu-sports-bounces at tssi.com [mailto:nwu-sports-bounces at tssi.com] On 
Behalf Of Eric Kunkel
> Sent: Thursday, February 16, 2012 3:27 PM
> To: bwdolphin146 at yahoo.com; nwu-sports at tssi.com
> Subject: Re: [NU Sports] Anybody else see a loss at Penn State coming?
> 
> 
> I'm going to this game if we beat Minnesota and Michigan.  Despite a cold, 
unenthusiastic envirement, if we can't get up for this game after creeping to 
7-8 in conference and getting back on the bubble, we can't get up for anything.
> 
> First, let's knock Minnesota out of NCAA consideration and take our shots at 
Michigan. We gave the Wolverines the game in Ann Arbor.
> 
> The last 2 losses have been punch in the stomach types, but going home for a 
week will help.\
> 
> GO CATS!!           Eric
> 
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: bwdolphin146 <bwdolphin146 at yahoo.com>
> To: nwu-sports <nwu-sports at tssi.com>
> Sent: Thu, Feb 16, 2012 2:00 pm
> Subject: [NU Sports] Anybody else see a loss at Penn State coming?
> 
> 
> It's a 9 pm start, the arena will be empty and cold, long trip and PSU owns 
the Cats at the Jordan Center. 
> It would fully typical of NU hoops to beat Michigan and then lose to the Nits. 

> Brad Wilson
> ent on the Sprint? Now Network from my BlackBerry? ______________________________________________
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From Jeff.Beamsley at covisint.com  Fri Feb 17 06:41:14 2012
From: Jeff.Beamsley at covisint.com (Beamsley, Jeff)
Date: Fri, 17 Feb 2012 07:41:14 -0500
Subject: [NU Sports] There is still hope
Message-ID: <37BBE4FEDCA6A1479A65BA8A020B14BC144A5B@nasa-dtw-ex006.nasa.cpwr.corp>

Iowa lost to PSU last night.
 
That means that there are now four teams tied for 7th in BT at 5-8, Minny, Illinoise, NU, and Iowa.
 
The cats have the easiest schedule of these four with three unranked teams among the last five games (Minny, PSU, and Iowa).
 
They simply have to take care of business to end up in 7th place in the BT conference.
 
Minny has a better overall W-L record at the moment, but looking at their schedule they are likely to end up 1-4 over their last 5 which will leave them 6-12 in the conference and 18-13 overall compared with NU's projected 18-12.
 
Illinoisy is also likely to go 2-3 over their last five which will leave them at 7-11 in the conference and 18-13 overall.
 
Speaking of Illinoying, their fall from grace is facinating.  They have all of the talent and the big man that many on this list crave.  They also have a good coach who has had success in the NCAA tourney.  What they lack according to their own coach is mental toughness.  Weber blames himself, but I think it is a natural by product of recruiting divas.  You end up with a selfish bunch of kids who put themselves ahead of the team.  Weber was either unwilling or unable to change that mindset.  Without a commitment to team-first values, they folded like lawn chair in the face of adversity.  It will likely cost Weber his job.
 
Say what you want about Carmody, but he gets this part right.  As we saw with Kevin Coble, Carmody is willing to show his best player the door rather than compromise his team-first approach.
 
Hopefully that philosophy pays off in a demonstration of the cats' mental toughness in this late season run.  I look for Sobo to bounce back with a great game against Minny.
 
Jeff

From j-hodges at alumni.northwestern.edu  Fri Feb 17 08:35:28 2012
From: j-hodges at alumni.northwestern.edu (Jonathan Hodges)
Date: Fri, 17 Feb 2012 09:35:28 -0500
Subject: [NU Sports] There is still hope
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The thing is that the selection committee honestly does not care where a
team finishes in the conference standings (unless it wins the conference,
at which point it gets some extra weight), and instead focuses on the
entire body of work.  The fact is that NU needs 4 more wins to put itself
in a good spot (it's possible that one of those wins could come in the conf
tourney).  Just finishing tied or above certain teams in the conference
standings won't mean anything come selection time, and fewer than 4 wins
would find NU slipping down the bubble.

Jonathan

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On Fri, Feb 17, 2012 at 7:41 AM, Beamsley, Jeff
<Jeff.Beamsley at covisint.com>wrote:

> Iowa lost to PSU last night.
>
> That means that there are now four teams tied for 7th in BT at 5-8, Minny,
> Illinoise, NU, and Iowa.
>
> The cats have the easiest schedule of these four with three unranked teams
> among the last five games (Minny, PSU, and Iowa).
>
> They simply have to take care of business to end up in 7th place in the BT
> conference.
>
> Minny has a better overall W-L record at the moment, but looking at their
> schedule they are likely to end up 1-4 over their last 5 which will leave
> them 6-12 in the conference and 18-13 overall compared with NU's projected
> 18-12.
>
> Illinoisy is also likely to go 2-3 over their last five which will leave
> them at 7-11 in the conference and 18-13 overall.
>
> Speaking of Illinoying, their fall from grace is facinating.  They have
> all of the talent and the big man that many on this list crave.  They also
> have a good coach who has had success in the NCAA tourney.  What they lack
> according to their own coach is mental toughness.  Weber blames himself,
> but I think it is a natural by product of recruiting divas.  You end up
> with a selfish bunch of kids who put themselves ahead of the team.  Weber
> was either unwilling or unable to change that mindset.  Without a
> commitment to team-first values, they folded like lawn chair in the face of
> adversity.  It will likely cost Weber his job.
>
> Say what you want about Carmody, but he gets this part right.  As we saw
> with Kevin Coble, Carmody is willing to show his best player the door
> rather than compromise his team-first approach.
>
> Hopefully that philosophy pays off in a demonstration of the cats' mental
> toughness in this late season run.  I look for Sobo to bounce back with a
> great game against Minny.
>
> Jeff
> _______________________________________________
> nwu-sports site list
> nwu-sports at tssi.com
> http://romaine.tssi.com/mailman/listinfo/nwu-sports
>

From e-west at northwestern.edu  Fri Feb 17 09:04:41 2012
From: e-west at northwestern.edu (Eric C West)
Date: Fri, 17 Feb 2012 15:04:41 +0000
Subject: [NU Sports] There is still hope
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While I disagree with parts of this -- given NU's higher-than-usual RPI (and all that entails), three wins could easily be enough this year, and with the soft national bubble the Big Ten could certainly get eight teams in -- the main point is they need to beat Minnesota, far more than they "needed" to beat Purdue or Indiana. For me, the rest of the schedule is moot until after Saturday.

Eric West
e-west at northwestern.edu


-----Original Message-----
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Sent: Friday, February 17, 2012 8:35 AM
To: Beamsley, Jeff
Cc: nwu-sports at tssi.com
Subject: Re: [NU Sports] There is still hope

The thing is that the selection committee honestly does not care where a team finishes in the conference standings (unless it wins the conference, at which point it gets some extra weight), and instead focuses on the entire body of work.  The fact is that NU needs 4 more wins to put itself in a good spot (it's possible that one of those wins could come in the conf tourney).  Just finishing tied or above certain teams in the conference standings won't mean anything come selection time, and fewer than 4 wins would find NU slipping down the bubble.

Jonathan


From Jeff.Beamsley at covisint.com  Fri Feb 17 09:41:59 2012
From: Jeff.Beamsley at covisint.com (Beamsley, Jeff)
Date: Fri, 17 Feb 2012 10:41:59 -0500
Subject: [NU Sports] There is still hope
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I agree that the selection committee looks at the whole body of work. It is also true that the BT has sent at least 7 teams to the tourney in most years.  Some pundits are saying that because of the expanded field and the strength of the conference 8 might go this year.
 
Based on that fact alone, NU ending up in sole possession of 7th place should get us an invite.
 
Looking at the schedules of the other teams in 7th place, we have the best chance to end up with sole possession of 7th because we play three unranked teams, two of whom we have already beaten, and the third we have at home. 
 
That doesn't mean that it will happen.  
 
It also doesn't mean that Illinoisy won't find themselves, get some big wins, and edge us out.  Or that Minny or Iowa get some upsets and edge us out.
 
Cats still have to go out and win at least three starting with Minny.
 
But it does mean that there is still hope, and that our path to the dance at this point seems more plausible than Iowa, Minny, or Illwhiny.
 
What is highly unlikely IMHO is that only six BT teams are invited.
 
Jeff

________________________________

From: nwu-sports-bounces at tssi.com on behalf of Eric C West
Sent: Fri 2/17/2012 10:04 AM
To: nwu-sports at tssi.com
Subject: Re: [NU Sports] There is still hope



While I disagree with parts of this -- given NU's higher-than-usual RPI (and all that entails), three wins could easily be enough this year, and with the soft national bubble the Big Ten could certainly get eight teams in -- the main point is they need to beat Minnesota, far more than they "needed" to beat Purdue or Indiana. For me, the rest of the schedule is moot until after Saturday.

Eric West
e-west at northwestern.edu


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Sent: Friday, February 17, 2012 8:35 AM
To: Beamsley, Jeff
Cc: nwu-sports at tssi.com
Subject: Re: [NU Sports] There is still hope

The thing is that the selection committee honestly does not care where a team finishes in the conference standings (unless it wins the conference, at which point it gets some extra weight), and instead focuses on the entire body of work.  The fact is that NU needs 4 more wins to put itself in a good spot (it's possible that one of those wins could come in the conf tourney).  Just finishing tied or above certain teams in the conference standings won't mean anything come selection time, and fewer than 4 wins would find NU slipping down the bubble.

Jonathan

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From hakirsch at aol.com  Fri Feb 17 09:44:08 2012
From: hakirsch at aol.com (hakirsch at aol.com)
Date: Fri, 17 Feb 2012 15:44:08 +0000
Subject: [NU Sports] There is still hope
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Tough to speculate on all of the somewhat long shot possibilities but assuming we don't win the BT tourney but that we get past the first 2 rounds, it would only add  2-1 to our record. I hardly think that would pull us from the outside to the inside.  Only if we were on the bubble,might it do the trick. And to get on the bubble we absolutely need to go 3-1 down the stretch and then pray 

Harry
Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry

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Date: Fri, 17 Feb 2012 09:35:28 
To: Beamsley, Jeff<Jeff.Beamsley at covisint.com>
Cc: <nwu-sports at tssi.com>
Subject: Re: [NU Sports] There is still hope

The thing is that the selection committee honestly does not care where a
team finishes in the conference standings (unless it wins the conference,
at which point it gets some extra weight), and instead focuses on the
entire body of work.  The fact is that NU needs 4 more wins to put itself
in a good spot (it's possible that one of those wins could come in the conf
tourney).  Just finishing tied or above certain teams in the conference
standings won't mean anything come selection time, and fewer than 4 wins
would find NU slipping down the bubble.

Jonathan

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Contributor, HailToPurple
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Twitter: @hailtopurple
Email: j-hodges at alumni.northwestern.edu



On Fri, Feb 17, 2012 at 7:41 AM, Beamsley, Jeff
<Jeff.Beamsley at covisint.com>wrote:

> Iowa lost to PSU last night.
>
> That means that there are now four teams tied for 7th in BT at 5-8, Minny,
> Illinoise, NU, and Iowa.
>
> The cats have the easiest schedule of these four with three unranked teams
> among the last five games (Minny, PSU, and Iowa).
>
> They simply have to take care of business to end up in 7th place in the BT
> conference.
>
> Minny has a better overall W-L record at the moment, but looking at their
> schedule they are likely to end up 1-4 over their last 5 which will leave
> them 6-12 in the conference and 18-13 overall compared with NU's projected
> 18-12.
>
> Illinoisy is also likely to go 2-3 over their last five which will leave
> them at 7-11 in the conference and 18-13 overall.
>
> Speaking of Illinoying, their fall from grace is facinating.  They have
> all of the talent and the big man that many on this list crave.  They also
> have a good coach who has had success in the NCAA tourney.  What they lack
> according to their own coach is mental toughness.  Weber blames himself,
> but I think it is a natural by product of recruiting divas.  You end up
> with a selfish bunch of kids who put themselves ahead of the team.  Weber
> was either unwilling or unable to change that mindset.  Without a
> commitment to team-first values, they folded like lawn chair in the face of
> adversity.  It will likely cost Weber his job.
>
> Say what you want about Carmody, but he gets this part right.  As we saw
> with Kevin Coble, Carmody is willing to show his best player the door
> rather than compromise his team-first approach.
>
> Hopefully that philosophy pays off in a demonstration of the cats' mental
> toughness in this late season run.  I look for Sobo to bounce back with a
> great game against Minny.
>
> Jeff
> _______________________________________________
> nwu-sports site list
> nwu-sports at tssi.com
> http://romaine.tssi.com/mailman/listinfo/nwu-sports
>
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From j-hodges at alumni.northwestern.edu  Fri Feb 17 10:04:03 2012
From: j-hodges at alumni.northwestern.edu (Jonathan Hodges)
Date: Fri, 17 Feb 2012 11:04:03 -0500
Subject: [NU Sports] There is still hope
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For those interested, Jerry Palm still has NU in the tournament as of this
morning (in one of the "first four" play-in games):

http://www.cbssports.com/collegebasketball/bracketology?ttag=gen10_on_all_fb_na_txt_0001

Note that both NU & Minny are in the "last four in" so that game will be
very important, as others have noted.  (Palm has 9 Big Ten teams getting in
as of right now.)

My main argument about conference standings had to do with the fact that
the committee does not predetermine how many teams a given conference will
have in the tourney (outside of the auto qualifier) and does not consider
conference standing.  Of course if NU wins 3 or 4 games, they'll finish
higher but they'll also have a better record and RPI and will compare
better to other teams including those in the conference.

If NU only manages to win 3 games down the stretch (which still won't be
easy) they'll likely be in the conversation but making the field would be
unlikely.  Getting a 4th win and/or winning 2 conf tourney games would go a
long way.  (Note that I'm presuming the OSU game is a guaranteed loss).

Jonathan

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On Fri, Feb 17, 2012 at 10:44 AM, <hakirsch at aol.com> wrote:

> Tough to speculate on all of the somewhat long shot possibilities but
> assuming we don't win the BT tourney but that we get past the first 2
> rounds, it would only add  2-1 to our record. I hardly think that would
> pull us from the outside to the inside.  Only if we were on the
> bubble,might it do the trick. And to get on the bubble we absolutely need
> to go 3-1 down the stretch and then pray
>
> Harry
> Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Jonathan Hodges <j-hodges at alumni.northwestern.edu>
> Sender: nwu-sports-bounces at tssi.com
> Date: Fri, 17 Feb 2012 09:35:28
> To: Beamsley, Jeff<Jeff.Beamsley at covisint.com>
> Cc: <nwu-sports at tssi.com>
> Subject: Re: [NU Sports] There is still hope
>
> The thing is that the selection committee honestly does not care where a
> team finishes in the conference standings (unless it wins the conference,
> at which point it gets some extra weight), and instead focuses on the
> entire body of work.  The fact is that NU needs 4 more wins to put itself
> in a good spot (it's possible that one of those wins could come in the conf
> tourney).  Just finishing tied or above certain teams in the conference
> standings won't mean anything come selection time, and fewer than 4 wins
> would find NU slipping down the bubble.
>
> Jonathan
>
> --
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> Contributor, HailToPurple
> Web: http://www.hailtopurple.com/jhodges/
> Twitter: @hailtopurple
> Email: j-hodges at alumni.northwestern.edu
>
>
>
> On Fri, Feb 17, 2012 at 7:41 AM, Beamsley, Jeff
> <Jeff.Beamsley at covisint.com>wrote:
>
> > Iowa lost to PSU last night.
> >
> > That means that there are now four teams tied for 7th in BT at 5-8,
> Minny,
> > Illinoise, NU, and Iowa.
> >
> > The cats have the easiest schedule of these four with three unranked
> teams
> > among the last five games (Minny, PSU, and Iowa).
> >
> > They simply have to take care of business to end up in 7th place in the
> BT
> > conference.
> >
> > Minny has a better overall W-L record at the moment, but looking at their
> > schedule they are likely to end up 1-4 over their last 5 which will leave
> > them 6-12 in the conference and 18-13 overall compared with NU's
> projected
> > 18-12.
> >
> > Illinoisy is also likely to go 2-3 over their last five which will leave
> > them at 7-11 in the conference and 18-13 overall.
> >
> > Speaking of Illinoying, their fall from grace is facinating.  They have
> > all of the talent and the big man that many on this list crave.  They
> also
> > have a good coach who has had success in the NCAA tourney.  What they
> lack
> > according to their own coach is mental toughness.  Weber blames himself,
> > but I think it is a natural by product of recruiting divas.  You end up
> > with a selfish bunch of kids who put themselves ahead of the team.  Weber
> > was either unwilling or unable to change that mindset.  Without a
> > commitment to team-first values, they folded like lawn chair in the face
> of
> > adversity.  It will likely cost Weber his job.
> >
> > Say what you want about Carmody, but he gets this part right.  As we saw
> > with Kevin Coble, Carmody is willing to show his best player the door
> > rather than compromise his team-first approach.
> >
> > Hopefully that philosophy pays off in a demonstration of the cats' mental
> > toughness in this late season run.  I look for Sobo to bounce back with a
> > great game against Minny.
> >
> > Jeff
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From Jeff.Beamsley at covisint.com  Fri Feb 17 10:28:45 2012
From: Jeff.Beamsley at covisint.com (Beamsley, Jeff)
Date: Fri, 17 Feb 2012 11:28:45 -0500
Subject: [NU Sports] There is still hope
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it is interesting that he is projecting Illinois as an 11th seed in the west, NU as a 13th seed in the south, and Minny a 14th seed in the west.
 
It's interesting because we are ranked 44th in RPI while Illinois is 53rd.  Our RPI is likely to go down compared with Illinois because we aren't playing as many ranked teams in the next five games.  But our RPI is also better than Purdue even though they have a better W-L record.  They are projected 10th in the East.
 
So they must think that Illinois will turn things around, because my bet at this point is that they are going to lose at least three of the next five.
 
Jeff
 
 
 

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To: hakirsch at aol.com
Cc: nwu-sports-bounces at tssi.com; Beamsley, Jeff; nwu-sports at tssi.com
Subject: Re: [NU Sports] There is still hope


For those interested, Jerry Palm still has NU in the tournament as of this morning (in one of the "first four" play-in games):

http://www.cbssports.com/collegebasketball/bracketology?ttag=gen10_on_all_fb_na_txt_0001

Note that both NU & Minny are in the "last four in" so that game will be very important, as others have noted.  (Palm has 9 Big Ten teams getting in as of right now.)

My main argument about conference standings had to do with the fact that the committee does not predetermine how many teams a given conference will have in the tourney (outside of the auto qualifier) and does not consider conference standing.  Of course if NU wins 3 or 4 games, they'll finish higher but they'll also have a better record and RPI and will compare better to other teams including those in the conference.

If NU only manages to win 3 games down the stretch (which still won't be easy) they'll likely be in the conversation but making the field would be unlikely.  Getting a 4th win and/or winning 2 conf tourney games would go a long way.  (Note that I'm presuming the OSU game is a guaranteed loss).

Jonathan

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On Fri, Feb 17, 2012 at 10:44 AM, <hakirsch at aol.com> wrote:


	Tough to speculate on all of the somewhat long shot possibilities but assuming we don't win the BT tourney but that we get past the first 2 rounds, it would only add  2-1 to our record. I hardly think that would pull us from the outside to the inside.  Only if we were on the bubble,might it do the trick. And to get on the bubble we absolutely need to go 3-1 down the stretch and then pray
	
	Harry
	Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry
	

	-----Original Message-----
	From: Jonathan Hodges <j-hodges at alumni.northwestern.edu>
	Sender: nwu-sports-bounces at tssi.com
	Date: Fri, 17 Feb 2012 09:35:28
	To: Beamsley, Jeff<Jeff.Beamsley at covisint.com>
	Cc: <nwu-sports at tssi.com>
	Subject: Re: [NU Sports] There is still hope
	
	
	The thing is that the selection committee honestly does not care where a
	team finishes in the conference standings (unless it wins the conference,
	at which point it gets some extra weight), and instead focuses on the
	entire body of work.  The fact is that NU needs 4 more wins to put itself
	in a good spot (it's possible that one of those wins could come in the conf
	tourney).  Just finishing tied or above certain teams in the conference
	standings won't mean anything come selection time, and fewer than 4 wins
	would find NU slipping down the bubble.
	
	Jonathan
	
	--
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	Contributor, HailToPurple
	Web: http://www.hailtopurple.com/jhodges/
	Twitter: @hailtopurple
	Email: j-hodges at alumni.northwestern.edu
	
	
	
	On Fri, Feb 17, 2012 at 7:41 AM, Beamsley, Jeff
	<Jeff.Beamsley at covisint.com>wrote:
	
	> Iowa lost to PSU last night.
	>
	> That means that there are now four teams tied for 7th in BT at 5-8, Minny,
	> Illinoise, NU, and Iowa.
	>
	> The cats have the easiest schedule of these four with three unranked teams
	> among the last five games (Minny, PSU, and Iowa).
	>
	> They simply have to take care of business to end up in 7th place in the BT
	> conference.
	>
	> Minny has a better overall W-L record at the moment, but looking at their
	> schedule they are likely to end up 1-4 over their last 5 which will leave
	> them 6-12 in the conference and 18-13 overall compared with NU's projected
	> 18-12.
	>
	> Illinoisy is also likely to go 2-3 over their last five which will leave
	> them at 7-11 in the conference and 18-13 overall.
	>
	> Speaking of Illinoying, their fall from grace is facinating.  They have
	> all of the talent and the big man that many on this list crave.  They also
	> have a good coach who has had success in the NCAA tourney.  What they lack
	> according to their own coach is mental toughness.  Weber blames himself,
	> but I think it is a natural by product of recruiting divas.  You end up
	> with a selfish bunch of kids who put themselves ahead of the team.  Weber
	> was either unwilling or unable to change that mindset.  Without a
	> commitment to team-first values, they folded like lawn chair in the face of
	> adversity.  It will likely cost Weber his job.
	>
	> Say what you want about Carmody, but he gets this part right.  As we saw
	> with Kevin Coble, Carmody is willing to show his best player the door
	> rather than compromise his team-first approach.
	>
	> Hopefully that philosophy pays off in a demonstration of the cats' mental
	> toughness in this late season run.  I look for Sobo to bounce back with a
	> great game against Minny.
	>
	> Jeff
	> _______________________________________________
	> nwu-sports site list
	> nwu-sports at tssi.com
	> http://romaine.tssi.com/mailman/listinfo/nwu-sports
	>
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From nolan at tssi.com  Fri Feb 17 12:03:56 2012
From: nolan at tssi.com (Mike Nolan)
Date: Fri, 17 Feb 2012 12:03:56 -0600 (CST)
Subject: [NU Sports] Huskers lose to Northwestern again
Message-ID: <20120217180356.E7AB0655FF@romaine.tssi.com>

Husker fans must be getting frustrated over losses to Northwestern.

Last night the 21st ranked Nebraska women's basketball team lost
AT HOME to Northwestern, 63-51.  
--
Mike Nolan


From rstetson at capps-assoc.com  Fri Feb 17 12:07:28 2012
From: rstetson at capps-assoc.com (Roy S. Lamberton)
Date: Fri, 17 Feb 2012 13:07:28 -0500
Subject: [NU Sports] Huskers lose to Northwestern again
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Just goes to show that the real NU is better than the UN-L hiding as NU.

rsl

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-----Original Message-----
From: nwu-sports-bounces at tssi.com [mailto:nwu-sports-bounces at tssi.com] On Behalf Of Mike
Nolan
Sent: Friday, February 17, 2012 1:04 PM
To: nwu-sports at tssi.com
Subject: [NU Sports] Huskers lose to Northwestern again

Husker fans must be getting frustrated over losses to Northwestern.

Last night the 21st ranked Nebraska women's basketball team lost AT HOME to Northwestern,
63-51.  
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From Jeff.Beamsley at covisint.com  Fri Feb 17 12:33:06 2012
From: Jeff.Beamsley at covisint.com (Beamsley, Jeff)
Date: Fri, 17 Feb 2012 13:33:06 -0500
Subject: [NU Sports] Huskers lose to Northwestern again
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Don't know if it is making any difference in Lincoln.
 
Mike, you would be a better comentator on that.
 
I think it would be interesting to see a little rivalry grow between the two institutions who share the same letters.
 
Jeff

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Sent: Fri 2/17/2012 1:07 PM
To: 'Mike Nolan'; nwu-sports at tssi.com
Subject: Re: [NU Sports] Huskers lose to Northwestern again



Just goes to show that the real NU is better than the UN-L hiding as NU.

rsl

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-----Original Message-----
From: nwu-sports-bounces at tssi.com [mailto:nwu-sports-bounces at tssi.com] On Behalf Of Mike
Nolan
Sent: Friday, February 17, 2012 1:04 PM
To: nwu-sports at tssi.com
Subject: [NU Sports] Huskers lose to Northwestern again

Husker fans must be getting frustrated over losses to Northwestern.

Last night the 21st ranked Nebraska women's basketball team lost AT HOME to Northwestern,
63-51. 
--
Mike Nolan

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From nolan at tssi.com  Fri Feb 17 20:19:52 2012
From: nolan at tssi.com (Mike Nolan)
Date: Fri, 17 Feb 2012 20:19:52 -0600 (CST)
Subject: [NU Sports] Huskers lose to Northwestern again
In-Reply-To: <37BBE4FEDCA6A1479A65BA8A020B14BC144A63@nasa-dtw-ex006.nasa.cpwr.corp>
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> Don't know if it is making any difference in Lincoln.
>
> Mike, you would be a better comentator on that.
> 
> I think it would be interesting to see a little rivalry grow between the 
> two institutions who share the same letters.

Too soon to see if that'll happen, and Northwestern will have a lot of
competition for 'designated conference rival' in various sports.

But the Cats could easily become their 'designated thorn in the side'. :-)

In some ways, Nebraska may be as much of a one-horse town when it comes
to Husker football than Northwestern is for Cats football.

A former Nebraska men's basketball coach used to say that he had the 
greatest job in the state, because nobody even remembered he was alive 
until after the bowl game.  While Nebraska has been to the NCAA
tournament a few times, they've never gotten very far. (I'm not
sure they've even won an NCAA tournament game yet.)  They did win
the NIT once.

Nobody on the Husker List has mentioned the women's BB team loss to
Northwestern yet, there was a bit of grumbling after the men's team
lost to the Cats. 

This year the men's team is struggling, and as I have previously noted, 
Doc Sadler could get fired, except that he has a whopping big buyout
clause.

The women's volleyball team has a lot of support and several NCAA
championships, they always play to a sold out house.  After the 
new basketball arena in downtown Lincoln is completed, the Husker 
Vballers may move from the Coliseum to a remodeled Devaney center, where 
the basketball teams currently play.

Historically, I think the men's gymnastics team has the most championships
of any Nebraska sports team, but I don't know that they draw well these days.
(We used to go to meets regularly, but haven't been to one in probably 20
years.)  

The baseball team has a new coach this year, former Husker and major league
player Darren Erstadt.  Expectations are mixed, most people think they
should do better in the Big Ten (not a strong baseball conference) than
they did in the Big XII (a strong baseball conference.)
--
Mike Nolan





From wildelk2 at aol.com  Fri Feb 17 21:16:54 2012
From: wildelk2 at aol.com (Eric Kunkel)
Date: Fri, 17 Feb 2012 22:16:54 -0500 (EST)
Subject: [NU Sports] Just our luck
Message-ID: <8CEBC02E613101C-F04-249B6@webmail-d010.sysops.aol.com>


1 week too late, DJ Byrd, who continually burned us from 10-15 feet was suspended, and another starter, Barlow (I forget his 1st name) was booted off the team after an altercation at a bar in West Lafayette.  Barlow was on a short leash, hence, got the boot after 1 infraction too many.  Damn it.  We still could see Purdue in the tournement though.     GO CATS!!    Eric

From rstetson at capps-assoc.com  Sat Feb 18 08:38:24 2012
From: rstetson at capps-assoc.com (Roy S. Lamberton)
Date: Sat, 18 Feb 2012 09:38:24 -0500
Subject: [NU Sports] Just our luck
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All of which will give them an excuse if we beat them in Indy later.

rsl

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  Senior League Softball World Series
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-----Original Message-----
From: nwu-sports-bounces at tssi.com [mailto:nwu-sports-bounces at tssi.com] On Behalf Of Eric
Kunkel
Sent: Friday, February 17, 2012 10:17 PM
To: nwu-sports at tssi.com
Subject: [NU Sports] Just our luck


1 week too late, DJ Byrd, who continually burned us from 10-15 feet was suspended, and
another starter, Barlow (I forget his 1st name) was booted off the team after an
altercation at a bar in West Lafayette.  Barlow was on a short leash, hence, got the boot
after 1 infraction too many.  Damn it.  We still could see Purdue in the tournement
though.     GO CATS!!    Eric
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From rstetson at capps-assoc.com  Sat Feb 18 09:02:30 2012
From: rstetson at capps-assoc.com (Roy S. Lamberton)
Date: Sat, 18 Feb 2012 10:02:30 -0500
Subject: [NU Sports] Here's the Scenario for The Cats and Shurna...
Message-ID: <001601ccee4e$56988e40$03c9aac0$@com>

Game against Minny: 

Minnesota figures out how to stop Shurna, holding him down until the final seconds when he
drains a 3 for 15 points. Crawford and Cobb make up the difference and the Cats still win,
but the countdown is stuck at 1.

Against Michigan, Shurna takes the tip and gets the layup to break the record in the first
seconds of the game. Michigan is so shocked they let him go on a major scoring run, and
the Cats get another at home.

That's how you'd write the movie.

rsl

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Computer Applications & Support Associates
Coach Roy's Random Thoughts - http://coachroy.org
--------------------- Also ----------------------
"Commissioner" Delaware American Legion Baseball
Director Media Relations - Little League 
  Senior League Softball World Series
CTR2 USN (67-70) - CTRCS USNR (Ret) (64-67/70-95)
Northwestern University - Speech 1974 - 
Chi Phi: Pi 1974, KD 1968
Publisher Emeritus: Purple Reign (Fox Sports)
=================================================
There is nothing wrong with America that the faith, 
love of freedom, intelligence and energy of her citizens 
cannot cure - Dwight D. Eisenhower
=  =  =  =  =  =  =  =  =  =  =  =  =  =  =  =  =
If we become a country in which we say, 'Please, 
tell me how to live,' We're Doomed!"
                   -- Pete Hamill, "Prohibition"
===========  Go Cats -? Beat 'em All  ===========





From Willie.Weinbaum at espn.com  Sat Feb 18 09:02:35 2012
From: Willie.Weinbaum at espn.com (Weinbaum, Willie)
Date: Sat, 18 Feb 2012 10:02:35 -0500
Subject: [NU Sports] FW: LTP on John Shurna,
 abt to pass McKinney as top NU scorer (& gd reader comments)
Message-ID: <1F89BB2CE7A5B94D969618E8CC769CC30147A02A8A@XCHGBRS4.corp.espn.pvt>

http://www.laketheposts.com/index.php/2012/02/dear-john/

From neonrye at aol.com  Sat Feb 18 18:02:44 2012
From: neonrye at aol.com (neonrye at aol.com)
Date: Sun, 19 Feb 2012 00:02:44 +0000
Subject: [NU Sports] The Dance
Message-ID: <1082652074-1329609612-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-24783884-@b5.c19.bise6.blackberry>

The stars seem to be aligning in favor of March Madness in Evanston.  The Illini are getting crushed at Lincoln, as the other NU helps the real NU, and the Illini swoon--just like their gridiron brothers.  

We just need to protect home court (except probably vs. Ohio State) and play up to our potential in Iowa City and at PSU.  The other 8-loss teams are falling all around us.

Tonight is critical, as others have pointed out.  We need a big game tonight out of Crawford.   And we need a roaring home crowd.  The Holu Grail is still attainable.  So go get it 'Cats!  

Our time is now!  Tip-off in a few...

Paul Levinson


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From hakirsch at aol.com  Sat Feb 18 18:03:10 2012
From: hakirsch at aol.com (hakirsch at aol.com)
Date: Sun, 19 Feb 2012 00:03:10 +0000
Subject: [NU Sports] The Dance
Message-ID: <1523082080-1329609802-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-296532597-@b11.c7.bise6.blackberry>

In my mind need all of that  and 2 wins in the BT tourney

Harry
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The stars seem to be aligning in favor of March Madness in Evanston.  The Illini are getting crushed at Lincoln, as the other NU helps the real NU, and the Illini swoon--just like their gridiron brothers.  

We just need to protect home court (except probably vs. Ohio State) and play up to our potential in Iowa City and at PSU.  The other 8-loss teams are falling all around us.

Tonight is critical, as others have pointed out.  We need a big game tonight out of Crawford.   And we need a roaring home crowd.  The Holu Grail is still attainable.  So go get it 'Cats!  

Our time is now!  Tip-off in a few...

Paul Levinson


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From Willie.Weinbaum at espn.com  Sat Feb 18 18:53:26 2012
From: Willie.Weinbaum at espn.com (Weinbaum, Willie)
Date: Sat, 18 Feb 2012 19:53:26 -0500
Subject: [NU Sports] Even though he didn't score
Message-ID: <1F89BB2CE7A5B94D969618E8CC769CC30147A02AB4@XCHGBRS4.corp.espn.pvt>

Cobb was a profound help to Cats, especially on D (major difference over last time Cats played Minn).  And the other guys were scoring when Shurna couldn't...then Shurna stole telegraphed pass against good Cats zone and that ignited him.  Supporting cast and Shurna, how about that!  Crawford and Sobo two treys each, Marcotullio one trey, Curletti a sweet move (been weeks since he even looked at the hoop).  Helluva good half!

From neonrye at aol.com  Sat Feb 18 19:20:51 2012
From: neonrye at aol.com (neonrye at aol.com)
Date: Sun, 19 Feb 2012 01:20:51 +0000
Subject: [NU Sports] Even though he didn't score
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Shurna is closing in on the record.  More importantly, 'Cats are closing in on closing out the Gophers.  So far, so good.  

We all have to be Hoosiers fans tomorrow, so they can put am L on the Hawkeyes.
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Cobb was a profound help to Cats, especially on D (major difference over last time Cats played Minn).  And the other guys were scoring when Shurna couldn't...then Shurna stole telegraphed pass against good Cats zone and that ignited him.  Supporting cast and Shurna, how about that!  Crawford and Sobo two treys each, Marcotullio one trey, Curletti a sweet move (been weeks since he even looked at the hoop).  Helluva good half!
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From hudhaifa3 at aol.com  Sat Feb 18 19:18:25 2012
From: hudhaifa3 at aol.com (joe amore)
Date: Sat, 18 Feb 2012 20:18:25 -0500 (EST)
Subject: [NU Sports] Even though he didn't score
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Totally agree with Mr Weinbaum..............
Love Cobb on top of the Zone....Wish he would knock down a shot or two for some confidence....But he is helping
Cats out-hustling Minny....Keep it up



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Subject: [NU Sports] Even though he didn't score


Cobb was a profound help to Cats, especially on D (major difference over last 
time Cats played Minn).  And the other guys were scoring when Shurna 
couldn't...then Shurna stole telegraphed pass against good Cats zone and that 
ignited him.  Supporting cast and Shurna, how about that!  Crawford and Sobo two 
treys each, Marcotullio one trey, Curletti a sweet move (been weeks since he 
even looked at the hoop).  Helluva good half!
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From neonrye at aol.com  Sat Feb 18 19:30:25 2012
From: neonrye at aol.com (neonrye at aol.com)
Date: Sun, 19 Feb 2012 01:30:25 +0000
Subject: [NU Sports] Even though he didn't score
In-Reply-To: <8CEBCBB833FC215-1CC8-36DCA@webmail-m079.sysops.aol.com>
References: <1F89BB2CE7A5B94D969618E8CC769CC30147A02AB4@XCHGBRS4.corp.espn.pvt>
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Uh oh.  Down to 7.  And then a threebie and Shurna has the record!!

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Totally agree with Mr Weinbaum..............
Love Cobb on top of the Zone....Wish he would knock down a shot or two for some confidence....But he is helping
Cats out-hustling Minny....Keep it up



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To: 'nwu-sports at tssi.com' <nwu-sports at tssi.com>
Sent: Sun, Feb 19, 2012 1:55 am
Subject: [NU Sports] Even though he didn't score


Cobb was a profound help to Cats, especially on D (major difference over last 
time Cats played Minn).  And the other guys were scoring when Shurna 
couldn't...then Shurna stole telegraphed pass against good Cats zone and that 
ignited him.  Supporting cast and Shurna, how about that!  Crawford and Sobo two 
treys each, Marcotullio one trey, Curletti a sweet move (been weeks since he 
even looked at the hoop).  Helluva good half!
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From neonrye at aol.com  Sat Feb 18 19:32:34 2012
From: neonrye at aol.com (neonrye at aol.com)
Date: Sun, 19 Feb 2012 01:32:34 +0000
Subject: [NU Sports] SHURNA
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References: <1F89BB2CE7A5B94D969618E8CC769CC30147A02AB4@XCHGBRS4.corp.espn.pvt>
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What a HUGE shot to become Numero Uno.  'Cats were fading, and John takes the crown.  Now lead us, thin Moses, to the Promised Land.  
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Date: Sun, 19 Feb 2012 01:30:25 
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Subject: Re: [NU Sports] Even though he didn't score

Uh oh.  Down to 7.  And then a threebie and Shurna has the record!!

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Subject: Re: [NU Sports] Even though he didn't score

Totally agree with Mr Weinbaum..............
Love Cobb on top of the Zone....Wish he would knock down a shot or two for some confidence....But he is helping
Cats out-hustling Minny....Keep it up



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From: Weinbaum, Willie <Willie.Weinbaum at espn.com>
To: 'nwu-sports at tssi.com' <nwu-sports at tssi.com>
Sent: Sun, Feb 19, 2012 1:55 am
Subject: [NU Sports] Even though he didn't score


Cobb was a profound help to Cats, especially on D (major difference over last 
time Cats played Minn).  And the other guys were scoring when Shurna 
couldn't...then Shurna stole telegraphed pass against good Cats zone and that 
ignited him.  Supporting cast and Shurna, how about that!  Crawford and Sobo two 
treys each, Marcotullio one trey, Curletti a sweet move (been weeks since he 
even looked at the hoop).  Helluva good half!
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From Willie.Weinbaum at espn.com  Sat Feb 18 19:30:27 2012
From: Willie.Weinbaum at espn.com (Weinbaum, Willie)
Date: Sat, 18 Feb 2012 20:30:27 -0500
Subject: [NU Sports] Sweeeet moment
Message-ID: <1F89BB2CE7A5B94D969618E8CC769CC30147A02AB9@XCHGBRS4.corp.espn.pvt>

A classy and exemplary player and guy, John Shurna, passes another one, Billy McKinney, in great style!

For this Cats fan, who came to NU the year after McKinney graduated, this was a really special moment.  

From hakirsch at aol.com  Sat Feb 18 19:35:50 2012
From: hakirsch at aol.com (hakirsch at aol.com)
Date: Sun, 19 Feb 2012 01:35:50 +0000
Subject: [NU Sports] Sweeeet moment
Message-ID: <1144540129-1329615350-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-525478961-@b11.c7.bise6.blackberry>

Mckinney was a really good guy. Sure he was rooting for the record to fall. 

 His smarts led him to be a GM for an NBA team. Can't remember if it was for Minnesota or for the Kings

Harry
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Subject: [NU Sports] Sweeeet moment
Sent: Feb 18, 2012 8:30 PM

A classy and exemplary player and guy, John Shurna, passes another one, Billy McKinney, in great style!

For this Cats fan, who came to NU the year after McKinney graduated, this was a really special moment.  
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From Willie.Weinbaum at espn.com  Sat Feb 18 19:38:59 2012
From: Willie.Weinbaum at espn.com (Weinbaum, Willie)
Date: Sat, 18 Feb 2012 20:38:59 -0500
Subject: [NU Sports] Sweeeet moment
In-Reply-To: <1144540129-1329615350-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-525478961-@b11.c7.bise6.blackberry>
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Good piece on Shurna, McKinney and the two prior record-holders, Jim B. & Joe R.:

http://m.nusports.com/s/28380/68?showMore=true&idPassed=tag:www.nusports.com,2012:/blog//74.41581

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Subject: Re: [NU Sports] Sweeeet moment

Mckinney was a really good guy. Sure he was rooting for the record to fall.

 His smarts led him to be a GM for an NBA team. Can't remember if it was for Minnesota or for the Kings

Harry
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To: 'nwu-sports at tssi.com'
Subject: [NU Sports] Sweeeet moment
Sent: Feb 18, 2012 8:30 PM

A classy and exemplary player and guy, John Shurna, passes another one, Billy McKinney, in great style!

For this Cats fan, who came to NU the year after McKinney graduated, this was a really special moment.
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From Jeff.Beamsley at covisint.com  Sat Feb 18 20:21:49 2012
From: Jeff.Beamsley at covisint.com (Beamsley, Jeff)
Date: Sat, 18 Feb 2012 21:21:49 -0500
Subject: [NU Sports] The Dance
References: <1523082080-1329609802-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-296532597-@b11.c7.bise6.blackberry>
Message-ID: <37BBE4FEDCA6A1479A65BA8A020B14BC144A72@nasa-dtw-ex006.nasa.cpwr.corp>

Cats now have sole possession of 7th place in the BT.
 
Big win.
 
Nice that Shurna broke the record at home.
 
Illinoise is officially checked out and Weber is dead man walking.
 
On to UoM.
 
Jeff
 

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Sent: Sat 2/18/2012 7:03 PM
To: neonrye at aol.com; nwu-sports at tssi.com
Subject: Re: [NU Sports] The Dance



In my mind need all of that  and 2 wins in the BT tourney

Harry
------Original Message------
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Subject: [NU Sports] The Dance
Sent: Feb 18, 2012 7:02 PM

The stars seem to be aligning in favor of March Madness in Evanston.  The Illini are getting crushed at Lincoln, as the other NU helps the real NU, and the Illini swoon--just like their gridiron brothers. 

We just need to protect home court (except probably vs. Ohio State) and play up to our potential in Iowa City and at PSU.  The other 8-loss teams are falling all around us.

Tonight is critical, as others have pointed out.  We need a big game tonight out of Crawford.   And we need a roaring home crowd.  The Holu Grail is still attainable.  So go get it 'Cats! 

Our time is now!  Tip-off in a few...

Paul Levinson


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From nolan at tssi.com  Sat Feb 18 21:04:58 2012
From: nolan at tssi.com (Mike Nolan)
Date: Sat, 18 Feb 2012 21:04:58 -0600 (CST)
Subject: [NU Sports] The Dance
In-Reply-To: <37BBE4FEDCA6A1479A65BA8A020B14BC144A72@nasa-dtw-ex006.nasa.cpwr.corp>
Message-ID: <20120219030459.0CC6D65410@romaine.tssi.com>

> Cats now have sole possession of 7th place in the BT.

Yeah, but the two home games left are both against nationally
ranked teams (Michigan and Ohio State) and that means they
probably need to win both road games (Penn State and Iowa.)  

They were saying on the broadcast that the Cats would be in 
much better shape if they went 9-9 in the conference, which 
means winning 3 out of 4.

So it is still a bit of an uphill climb to the Dance.
--
Mike Nolan


From rstetson at capps-assoc.com  Sat Feb 18 22:12:31 2012
From: rstetson at capps-assoc.com (Roy S. Lamberton)
Date: Sat, 18 Feb 2012 23:12:31 -0500
Subject: [NU Sports] The Dance
In-Reply-To: <20120219030459.0CC6D65410@romaine.tssi.com>
References: <37BBE4FEDCA6A1479A65BA8A020B14BC144A72@nasa-dtw-ex006.nasa.cpwr.corp>
 <20120219030459.0CC6D65410@romaine.tssi.com>
Message-ID: <001501cceebc$b3fd3540$1bf79fc0$@com>

I think the return of Cobb bodes well for NU.

He didn't score much, but then he didn't shoot much tonight, however did he ever play some
Defense.

At least part of my prediction came true - Minny did clamp down on Shurna early, but he
came roaring back after playing some tough defense, and grabbing some rebounds.

Take back a couple of the missed "dunks" and we win this going away.

Wore my purple golf shirt during the game - have to get it cleaned for Wednesday.

Go Cats!

rsl

+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
Opinions expressed above are mine alone and are not
those of any organizations of which I am a member.
+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
Roy S. Lamberton - Senior Associate.
Computer Applications & Support Associates
Coach Roy's Random Thoughts - http://coachroy.org
--------------------- Also ----------------------
"Commissioner" Delaware American Legion Baseball
Director Media Relations - Little League 
  Senior League Softball World Series
CTR2 USN (67-70) - CTRCS USNR (Ret) (64-67/70-95)
Northwestern University - Speech 1974 - 
Chi Phi: Pi 1974, KD 1968
Publisher Emeritus: Purple Reign (Fox Sports)
=================================================
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love of freedom, intelligence and energy of her citizens 
cannot cure - Dwight D. Eisenhower
=  =  =  =  =  =  =  =  =  =  =  =  =  =  =  =  =
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From: nwu-sports-bounces at tssi.com [mailto:nwu-sports-bounces at tssi.com] On Behalf Of Mike
Nolan
Sent: Saturday, February 18, 2012 10:05 PM
To: Beamsley, Jeff
Cc: nwu-sports at tssi.com
Subject: Re: [NU Sports] The Dance

> Cats now have sole possession of 7th place in the BT.

Yeah, but the two home games left are both against nationally ranked teams (Michigan and
Ohio State) and that means they probably need to win both road games (Penn State and
Iowa.)  

They were saying on the broadcast that the Cats would be in much better shape if they went
9-9 in the conference, which means winning 3 out of 4.

So it is still a bit of an uphill climb to the Dance.
--
Mike Nolan

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From marks83588 at aol.com  Sun Feb 19 07:37:27 2012
From: marks83588 at aol.com (marks83588 at aol.com)
Date: Sun, 19 Feb 2012 08:37:27 -0500 (EST)
Subject: [NU Sports] The Dance
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Wore my purple golf shirt during the game - have to get it cleaned for 
Wednesday.

Better get to work on your laundry cause the Cats play Tuesday night!

-----Original Message-----
From: Roy S. Lamberton <rstetson at capps-assoc.com>
To: 'Mike Nolan' <nolan at tssi.com>; 'Beamsley, Jeff' <Jeff.Beamsley at covisint.com>
Cc: nwu-sports <nwu-sports at tssi.com>
Sent: Sat, Feb 18, 2012 11:13 pm
Subject: Re: [NU Sports] The Dance


I think the return of Cobb bodes well for NU.

He didn't score much, but then he didn't shoot much tonight, however did he ever 
play some
Defense.

At least part of my prediction came true - Minny did clamp down on Shurna early, 
but he
came roaring back after playing some tough defense, and grabbing some rebounds.

Take back a couple of the missed "dunks" and we win this going away.

Wore my purple golf shirt during the game - have to get it cleaned for 
Wednesday.

Go Cats!

rsl

+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
Opinions expressed above are mine alone and are not
those of any organizations of which I am a member.
+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
Roy S. Lamberton - Senior Associate.
Computer Applications & Support Associates
Coach Roy's Random Thoughts - http://coachroy.org
--------------------- Also ----------------------
"Commissioner" Delaware American Legion Baseball
Director Media Relations - Little League 
  Senior League Softball World Series
CTR2 USN (67-70) - CTRCS USNR (Ret) (64-67/70-95)
Northwestern University - Speech 1974 - 
Chi Phi: Pi 1974, KD 1968
Publisher Emeritus: Purple Reign (Fox Sports)
=================================================
There is nothing wrong with America that the faith, 
love of freedom, intelligence and energy of her citizens 
cannot cure - Dwight D. Eisenhower
=  =  =  =  =  =  =  =  =  =  =  =  =  =  =  =  =
If we become a country in which we say, 'Please, 
tell me how to live,' We're Doomed!"
                   -- Pete Hamill, "Prohibition"
===========  Go Cats -  Beat 'em All  ===========


-----Original Message-----
From: nwu-sports-bounces at tssi.com [mailto:nwu-sports-bounces at tssi.com] On Behalf 
Of Mike
Nolan
Sent: Saturday, February 18, 2012 10:05 PM
To: Beamsley, Jeff
Cc: nwu-sports at tssi.com
Subject: Re: [NU Sports] The Dance

> Cats now have sole possession of 7th place in the BT.

Yeah, but the two home games left are both against nationally ranked teams 
(Michigan and
Ohio State) and that means they probably need to win both road games (Penn State 
and
Iowa.)  

They were saying on the broadcast that the Cats would be in much better shape if 
they went
9-9 in the conference, which means winning 3 out of 4.

So it is still a bit of an uphill climb to the Dance.
--
Mike Nolan

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From r.beckwith at sbcglobal.net  Sun Feb 19 07:52:42 2012
From: r.beckwith at sbcglobal.net (Roger Beckwith)
Date: Sun, 19 Feb 2012 07:52:42 -0600
Subject: [NU Sports] The Dance
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Don't know if it was mentioned on the broadcast but the football monkey sort of returned in bball. The coaches all wore large buttons saying "on the line". 
Roger

On Feb 18, 2012, at 9:04 PM, nolan at tssi.com (Mike Nolan) wrote:

>> Cats now have sole possession of 7th place in the BT.
> 
> Yeah, but the two home games left are both against nationally
> ranked teams (Michigan and Ohio State) and that means they
> probably need to win both road games (Penn State and Iowa.)  
> 
> They were saying on the broadcast that the Cats would be in 
> much better shape if they went 9-9 in the conference, which 
> means winning 3 out of 4.
> 
> So it is still a bit of an uphill climb to the Dance.
> --
> Mike Nolan
> 
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From Jeff.Beamsley at covisint.com  Sun Feb 19 08:36:52 2012
From: Jeff.Beamsley at covisint.com (Beamsley, Jeff)
Date: Sun, 19 Feb 2012 06:36:52 -0800
Subject: [NU Sports] The Dance
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Espn now saying NU replaces Minny in the group of four "last in"  teams invited to the dance. 

Jeff

Sent from my iPhone

On Feb 19, 2012, at 5:53 AM, "Roger Beckwith" <r.beckwith at sbcglobal.net> wrote:

> Don't know if it was mentioned on the broadcast but the football monkey sort of returned in bball. The coaches all wore large buttons saying "on the line". 
> Roger
> 
> On Feb 18, 2012, at 9:04 PM, nolan at tssi.com (Mike Nolan) wrote:
> 
>>> Cats now have sole possession of 7th place in the BT.
>> 
>> Yeah, but the two home games left are both against nationally
>> ranked teams (Michigan and Ohio State) and that means they
>> probably need to win both road games (Penn State and Iowa.)  
>> 
>> They were saying on the broadcast that the Cats would be in 
>> much better shape if they went 9-9 in the conference, which 
>> means winning 3 out of 4.
>> 
>> So it is still a bit of an uphill climb to the Dance.
>> --
>> Mike Nolan
>> 
>> _______________________________________________
>> nwu-sports site list
>> nwu-sports at tssi.com
>> http://romaine.tssi.com/mailman/listinfo/nwu-sports
> 
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From hakirsch at aol.com  Sun Feb 19 08:49:52 2012
From: hakirsch at aol.com (hakirsch at aol.com)
Date: Sun, 19 Feb 2012 14:49:52 +0000
Subject: [NU Sports] The Dance
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Hope so, but sounds pre mature depending on how we do at the finish line

Harry
Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry

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Subject: Re: [NU Sports] The Dance

Espn now saying NU replaces Minny in the group of four "last in"  teams invited to the dance. 

Jeff

Sent from my iPhone

On Feb 19, 2012, at 5:53 AM, "Roger Beckwith" <r.beckwith at sbcglobal.net> wrote:

> Don't know if it was mentioned on the broadcast but the football monkey sort of returned in bball. The coaches all wore large buttons saying "on the line". 
> Roger
> 
> On Feb 18, 2012, at 9:04 PM, nolan at tssi.com (Mike Nolan) wrote:
> 
>>> Cats now have sole possession of 7th place in the BT.
>> 
>> Yeah, but the two home games left are both against nationally
>> ranked teams (Michigan and Ohio State) and that means they
>> probably need to win both road games (Penn State and Iowa.)  
>> 
>> They were saying on the broadcast that the Cats would be in 
>> much better shape if they went 9-9 in the conference, which 
>> means winning 3 out of 4.
>> 
>> So it is still a bit of an uphill climb to the Dance.
>> --
>> Mike Nolan
>> 
>> _______________________________________________
>> nwu-sports site list
>> nwu-sports at tssi.com
>> http://romaine.tssi.com/mailman/listinfo/nwu-sports
> 
> _______________________________________________
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From Willie.Weinbaum at espn.com  Sun Feb 19 09:09:02 2012
From: Willie.Weinbaum at espn.com (Weinbaum, Willie)
Date: Sun, 19 Feb 2012 10:09:02 -0500
Subject: [NU Sports] "On the Line" button worn by Carmody
Message-ID: <1F89BB2CE7A5B94D969618E8CC769CC30147A02AF1@XCHGBRS4.corp.espn.pvt>

Apparently in conjunction with the initiative by the Black Coaches and Administrators (BCA) during February?s Black History Month to connect men and their families to the resources they need to become educated about prostate cancer.

From an article on subject:

Several college coaches have been affected by prostate cancer, including Tubby Smith, Digger Phelps, Steve Lavin and Jim Boeheim. Research has shown one in six men will be diagnosed with prostate cancer during their lifetime, with African-American men at even a great risk at one in five.

?On the Line? proclaimed the week of Feb. 18-26 as ?Statement Week.? For more information go to www.ontheline.com.


From neonrye at aol.com  Sun Feb 19 09:17:51 2012
From: neonrye at aol.com (neonrye at aol.com)
Date: Sun, 19 Feb 2012 15:17:51 +0000
Subject: [NU Sports] The Dance
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At least we are in the mix and the discussion.  When we were 2-6, that didn't seem possible.  

Obviously, a win Tuesday over Michigan, after Wolves just knocked off Buckeyes, would be a monumental step towards the mountaintop.  And, by the same token, a failure to defend our home court could start another slide in the wrong direction.  

Both teams could be suffering a bit of a let-down, UM after rivalry win and NU after Shurna record and payback for blowout in St. Paul.

But 'Cats have far more at stake, and need to continue to play with passion and commitment.  We need more dedication to cleaning the glass, to be sure.  

Paul Levinson
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Hope so, but sounds pre mature depending on how we do at the finish line

Harry
Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry

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Date: Sun, 19 Feb 2012 06:36:52 
To: Roger Beckwith<r.beckwith at sbcglobal.net>
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Subject: Re: [NU Sports] The Dance

Espn now saying NU replaces Minny in the group of four "last in"  teams invited to the dance. 

Jeff

Sent from my iPhone

On Feb 19, 2012, at 5:53 AM, "Roger Beckwith" <r.beckwith at sbcglobal.net> wrote:

> Don't know if it was mentioned on the broadcast but the football monkey sort of returned in bball. The coaches all wore large buttons saying "on the line". 
> Roger
> 
> On Feb 18, 2012, at 9:04 PM, nolan at tssi.com (Mike Nolan) wrote:
> 
>>> Cats now have sole possession of 7th place in the BT.
>> 
>> Yeah, but the two home games left are both against nationally
>> ranked teams (Michigan and Ohio State) and that means they
>> probably need to win both road games (Penn State and Iowa.)  
>> 
>> They were saying on the broadcast that the Cats would be in 
>> much better shape if they went 9-9 in the conference, which 
>> means winning 3 out of 4.
>> 
>> So it is still a bit of an uphill climb to the Dance.
>> --
>> Mike Nolan
>> 
>> _______________________________________________
>> nwu-sports site list
>> nwu-sports at tssi.com
>> http://romaine.tssi.com/mailman/listinfo/nwu-sports
> 
> _______________________________________________
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> nwu-sports at tssi.com
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From Jeff.Beamsley at covisint.com  Sun Feb 19 10:33:22 2012
From: Jeff.Beamsley at covisint.com (Beamsley, Jeff)
Date: Sun, 19 Feb 2012 11:33:22 -0500
Subject: [NU Sports] The Dance
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pre-maturity is what this is all about.
 
The opportunity to speculate, particular with a team like NU that may be getting their first invite, is why this particuar tournament is so captivating.
 
IMHO, Joe Lunardi at ESPN was reacting to facts on the ground.  He is predicting the 7 BT teams get invited.  He had projected Illinois as the 7th team, but with their loss at UNL, that leaves NU as the last BT invite.  
 
NU still has to take care of business on the road against Iowa and PSU, but a win over UoM would be huge.
 
Jeff

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Subject: Re: [NU Sports] The Dance



Hope so, but sounds pre mature depending on how we do at the finish line

Harry
Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry

-----Original Message-----
From: "Beamsley, Jeff" <Jeff.Beamsley at covisint.com>
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Date: Sun, 19 Feb 2012 06:36:52
To: Roger Beckwith<r.beckwith at sbcglobal.net>
Cc: <nwu-sports at tssi.com>
Subject: Re: [NU Sports] The Dance

Espn now saying NU replaces Minny in the group of four "last in"  teams invited to the dance.

Jeff

Sent from my iPhone

On Feb 19, 2012, at 5:53 AM, "Roger Beckwith" <r.beckwith at sbcglobal.net> wrote:

> Don't know if it was mentioned on the broadcast but the football monkey sort of returned in bball. The coaches all wore large buttons saying "on the line".
> Roger
>
> On Feb 18, 2012, at 9:04 PM, nolan at tssi.com (Mike Nolan) wrote:
>
>>> Cats now have sole possession of 7th place in the BT.
>>
>> Yeah, but the two home games left are both against nationally
>> ranked teams (Michigan and Ohio State) and that means they
>> probably need to win both road games (Penn State and Iowa.) 
>>
>> They were saying on the broadcast that the Cats would be in
>> much better shape if they went 9-9 in the conference, which
>> means winning 3 out of 4.
>>
>> So it is still a bit of an uphill climb to the Dance.
>> --
>> Mike Nolan
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> nwu-sports site list
>> nwu-sports at tssi.com
>> http://romaine.tssi.com/mailman/listinfo/nwu-sports
>
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From tkmaycock at yahoo.com  Sun Feb 19 11:15:55 2012
From: tkmaycock at yahoo.com (Tom Maycock)
Date: Sun, 19 Feb 2012 09:15:55 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [NU Sports] The Dance
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> ? He had projected Illinois as the 7th team, but with?

> their loss at UNL, that leaves NU as the last BT invite.? 


But how can that possibly be??According to Meyers Leonard himself, "everyone knows that [Illinois] is better than Northwestern", right??

Meanwhile, there's a nice John Shurna highlight video montage up on the front page at nusports.com.

Tom


From Jeff.Beamsley at covisint.com  Sun Feb 19 12:19:36 2012
From: Jeff.Beamsley at covisint.com (Beamsley, Jeff)
Date: Sun, 19 Feb 2012 13:19:36 -0500
Subject: [NU Sports] The Dance
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Leonard's attitude is EXACTLY the reason why we still play the games.
 
He's right of course.  
 
Illnnoying basketball players ARE better athletes than NU basketball players.  They are taller, faster, can jump higher, and probably have better eye-hand coordination too.  As a result, they will likely send more players to the NBA than NU.
 
What NU has, however, is something that Leonard doesn't understand.  It's a commitment to team and the belief that the team can greater than the sum of its parts.  That's the reason why NU won in Champaign.  That's also why Illinoisy lost in Lincoln.  
 
Hopefully it will also be the reason why NU will be getting their first invitation to the dance this year and why Leonard will be staying home blaming his fate on others failures.  
 
Jeff
 

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From: nwu-sports-bounces at tssi.com on behalf of Tom Maycock
Sent: Sun 2/19/2012 12:15 PM
To: nwu-sports at tssi.com
Subject: Re: [NU Sports] The Dance



>   He had projected Illinois as the 7th team, but with 

> their loss at UNL, that leaves NU as the last BT invite. 


But how can that possibly be? According to Meyers Leonard himself, "everyone knows that [Illinois] is better than Northwestern", right? 

Meanwhile, there's a nice John Shurna highlight video montage up on the front page at nusports.com.

Tom

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From rstetson at capps-assoc.com  Sun Feb 19 22:01:49 2012
From: rstetson at capps-assoc.com (Roy S. Lamberton)
Date: Sun, 19 Feb 2012 23:01:49 -0500
Subject: [NU Sports] The Dance
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For all of BC's faults, he does seem to stress the idea of team when it comes to playing
the games.

Kevin Coble was every bit as talented as Shurna, but Shurna puts the team ahead of his own
accomplishments - even his TV interview last night with Shon M, featured him deflecting
some of the glory for setting the new record, towards his teammates, and the fact that
they won the game. I don't know Coble personally, but it always seemed that he was always
more interested in his personal stuff, than playing for the team.

Should Carmody let him go train away from the team while they were traveling? Maybe, but
the rest of the team made the trip regardless of their physical condition.

In any case, it seems that star players don't really thrive in the Princeton offense,
especially under Carmody. The Princeton requires 5 players to make it work properly -
stick in a superstar and it might not work as well. 

Guys like T.J. Parker and Michael Thompson, who could have been stars at NU, couldn't put
their personal desires below the team. Parker left early, Thompson never really showed up.
BC wished them well, and good luck and moved on to kids who will play his offense under
control.

This team seems to like playing BC's Offense and playing under BC. It shows on their
faces, when they screw up, they mirror the coach's reaction, and when they do something
great, the coaches are there to pat them on the back. 

And when Shurna broke the record, Carmody shook hands, and got out of the camera shot so
Shurna could be covered surrounded by his teammates. OK maybe that wasn't intentional, but
that's how it worked out.

Meanwhile, Ill-noise is probably working up a short list of replacements for Weber.
Bringing that program back is going to be tougher than you might think, altho they do have
the players. Getting them all to believe in team is going to be the big issue.

rsl


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Director Media Relations - Little League 
  Senior League Softball World Series
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-----Original Message-----
From: nwu-sports-bounces at tssi.com [mailto:nwu-sports-bounces at tssi.com] On Behalf Of
Beamsley, Jeff
Sent: Sunday, February 19, 2012 1:20 PM
To: Tom Maycock; nwu-sports at tssi.com
Subject: Re: [NU Sports] The Dance

Leonard's attitude is EXACTLY the reason why we still play the games.
 
He's right of course.  
 
Illnnoying basketball players ARE better athletes than NU basketball players.  They are
taller, faster, can jump higher, and probably have better eye-hand coordination too.  As a
result, they will likely send more players to the NBA than NU.
 
What NU has, however, is something that Leonard doesn't understand.  It's a commitment to
team and the belief that the team can greater than the sum of its parts.  That's the
reason why NU won in Champaign.  That's also why Illinoisy lost in Lincoln.  
 
Hopefully it will also be the reason why NU will be getting their first invitation to the
dance this year and why Leonard will be staying home blaming his fate on others failures.

 
Jeff
 

________________________________

From: nwu-sports-bounces at tssi.com on behalf of Tom Maycock
Sent: Sun 2/19/2012 12:15 PM
To: nwu-sports at tssi.com
Subject: Re: [NU Sports] The Dance



>   He had projected Illinois as the 7th team, but with 

> their loss at UNL, that leaves NU as the last BT invite. 


But how can that possibly be? According to Meyers Leonard himself, "everyone knows that
[Illinois] is better than Northwestern", right? 

Meanwhile, there's a nice John Shurna highlight video montage up on the front page at
nusports.com.

Tom

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From rstetson at capps-assoc.com  Sun Feb 19 22:48:52 2012
From: rstetson at capps-assoc.com (Roy S. Lamberton)
Date: Sun, 19 Feb 2012 23:48:52 -0500
Subject: [NU Sports] The Dance
In-Reply-To: <005801ccef84$5face670$1f06b350$@com>
References: <20120219030459.0CC6D65410@romaine.tssi.com>
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Message-ID: <005c01ccef8a$f2fc2d40$d8f487c0$@com>

Before everyone gets upset with my comment on Michael Thompson, I was referring to the
transfer from Duke, not Juice.

Juice was another guy who absolutely fit BC's system. It?s a shame the team couldn't rise
up enough to get to the dance last year, but that is the way things go sometimes.

rsl

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Opinions expressed above are mine alone and are not
those of any organizations of which I am a member.
+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
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Computer Applications & Support Associates
Coach Roy's Random Thoughts - http://coachroy.org
--------------------- Also ----------------------
"Commissioner" Delaware American Legion Baseball
Director Media Relations - Little League 
  Senior League Softball World Series
CTR2 USN (67-70) - CTRCS USNR (Ret) (64-67/70-95)
Northwestern University - Speech 1974 - 
Chi Phi: Pi 1974, KD 1968
Publisher Emeritus: Purple Reign (Fox Sports)
=================================================
There is nothing wrong with America that the faith, 
love of freedom, intelligence and energy of her citizens 
cannot cure - Dwight D. Eisenhower
=  =  =  =  =  =  =  =  =  =  =  =  =  =  =  =  =
If we become a country in which we say, 'Please, 
tell me how to live,' We're Doomed!"
                   -- Pete Hamill, "Prohibition"
===========  Go Cats -? Beat 'em All  ===========



-----Original Message-----
From: nwu-sports-bounces at tssi.com [mailto:nwu-sports-bounces at tssi.com] On Behalf Of Roy S.
Lamberton
Sent: Sunday, February 19, 2012 11:02 PM
To: 'Beamsley, Jeff'; 'Tom Maycock'; nwu-sports at tssi.com
Subject: Re: [NU Sports] The Dance

For all of BC's faults, he does seem to stress the idea of team when it comes to playing
the games.

Kevin Coble was every bit as talented as Shurna, but Shurna puts the team ahead of his own
accomplishments - even his TV interview last night with Shon M, featured him deflecting
some of the glory for setting the new record, towards his teammates, and the fact that
they won the game. I don't know Coble personally, but it always seemed that he was always
more interested in his personal stuff, than playing for the team.

Should Carmody let him go train away from the team while they were traveling? Maybe, but
the rest of the team made the trip regardless of their physical condition.

In any case, it seems that star players don't really thrive in the Princeton offense,
especially under Carmody. The Princeton requires 5 players to make it work properly -
stick in a superstar and it might not work as well. 

Guys like T.J. Parker and Michael Thompson, who could have been stars at NU, couldn't put
their personal desires below the team. Parker left early, Thompson never really showed up.
BC wished them well, and good luck and moved on to kids who will play his offense under
control.

This team seems to like playing BC's Offense and playing under BC. It shows on their
faces, when they screw up, they mirror the coach's reaction, and when they do something
great, the coaches are there to pat them on the back. 

And when Shurna broke the record, Carmody shook hands, and got out of the camera shot so
Shurna could be covered surrounded by his teammates. OK maybe that wasn't intentional, but
that's how it worked out.

Meanwhile, Ill-noise is probably working up a short list of replacements for Weber.
Bringing that program back is going to be tougher than you might think, altho they do have
the players. Getting them all to believe in team is going to be the big issue.

rsl


+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
Opinions expressed above are mine alone and are not those of any organizations of which I
am a member.
+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
Roy S. Lamberton - Senior Associate.
Computer Applications & Support Associates Coach Roy's Random Thoughts -
http://coachroy.org
--------------------- Also ---------------------- "Commissioner" Delaware American Legion
Baseball Director Media Relations - Little League
  Senior League Softball World Series
CTR2 USN (67-70) - CTRCS USNR (Ret) (64-67/70-95) Northwestern University - Speech 1974 -
Chi Phi: Pi 1974, KD 1968 Publisher Emeritus: Purple Reign (Fox Sports)
=================================================
There is nothing wrong with America that the faith, love of freedom, intelligence and
energy of her citizens cannot cure - Dwight D. Eisenhower =  =  =  =  =  =  =  =  =  =  =
=  =  =  =  =  = If we become a country in which we say, 'Please, tell me how to live,'
We're Doomed!"
                   -- Pete Hamill, "Prohibition"
===========  Go Cats -? Beat 'em All  ===========


-----Original Message-----
From: nwu-sports-bounces at tssi.com [mailto:nwu-sports-bounces at tssi.com] On Behalf Of
Beamsley, Jeff
Sent: Sunday, February 19, 2012 1:20 PM
To: Tom Maycock; nwu-sports at tssi.com
Subject: Re: [NU Sports] The Dance

Leonard's attitude is EXACTLY the reason why we still play the games.
 
He's right of course.  
 
Illnnoying basketball players ARE better athletes than NU basketball players.  They are
taller, faster, can jump higher, and probably have better eye-hand coordination too.  As a
result, they will likely send more players to the NBA than NU.
 
What NU has, however, is something that Leonard doesn't understand.  It's a commitment to
team and the belief that the team can greater than the sum of its parts.  That's the
reason why NU won in Champaign.  That's also why Illinoisy lost in Lincoln.  
 
Hopefully it will also be the reason why NU will be getting their first invitation to the
dance this year and why Leonard will be staying home blaming his fate on others failures.

 
Jeff
 

________________________________

From: nwu-sports-bounces at tssi.com on behalf of Tom Maycock
Sent: Sun 2/19/2012 12:15 PM
To: nwu-sports at tssi.com
Subject: Re: [NU Sports] The Dance



>   He had projected Illinois as the 7th team, but with

> their loss at UNL, that leaves NU as the last BT invite. 


But how can that possibly be? According to Meyers Leonard himself, "everyone knows that
[Illinois] is better than Northwestern", right? 

Meanwhile, there's a nice John Shurna highlight video montage up on the front page at
nusports.com.

Tom

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From Willie.Weinbaum at espn.com  Mon Feb 20 09:55:02 2012
From: Willie.Weinbaum at espn.com (Weinbaum, Willie)
Date: Mon, 20 Feb 2012 10:55:02 -0500
Subject: [NU Sports] Women's Lacrosse Coach Establishing a Legacy -
	NYTimes.com
Message-ID: <1F89BB2CE7A5B94D969618E8CC769CC30147A02B34@XCHGBRS4.corp.espn.pvt>

http://thequad.blogs.nytimes.com/2012/02/18/38407/


From bwdolphin146 at yahoo.com  Mon Feb 20 12:31:13 2012
From: bwdolphin146 at yahoo.com (bwdolphin146 at yahoo.com)
Date: Mon, 20 Feb 2012 18:31:13 +0000
Subject: [NU Sports] Star players can work in Princeton offense
Message-ID: <870671230-1329762672-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-1002332030-@b17.c29.bise6.blackberry>

... After all Carril coached Geoff Petrie, Brian Taylor and Armond Hill, NBA types all, and many terrific Ivy players. 

It's that the star has to fit into the system and the teamwork -- many can't to so. Those that can, prosper, such as Shurna. 

Leonard's comments remind me why the Illini raise my hackles so. 

Brad Wilson
Sent on the Sprint? Now Network from my BlackBerry?

From nolan at tssi.com  Mon Feb 20 12:43:50 2012
From: nolan at tssi.com (Mike Nolan)
Date: Mon, 20 Feb 2012 12:43:50 -0600 (CST)
Subject: [NU Sports] Women's Lacrosse Coach Establishing a Legacy -
In-Reply-To: <1F89BB2CE7A5B94D969618E8CC769CC30147A02B34@XCHGBRS4.corp.espn.pvt>
Message-ID: <20120220184350.530A9655E7@romaine.tssi.com>

> http://thequad.blogs.nytimes.com/2012/02/18/38407/

Nice article, but it isn't clear what the author
meant by 'establishing a legacy'.  
--
Mike Nolan


From j-hodges at alumni.northwestern.edu  Mon Feb 20 12:36:33 2012
From: j-hodges at alumni.northwestern.edu (Jonathan Hodges)
Date: Mon, 20 Feb 2012 13:36:33 -0500
Subject: [NU Sports] The Dance
In-Reply-To: <005801ccef84$5face670$1f06b350$@com>
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I'd be be careful about calling out some of the players that you mentioned
for being selfish as there were two sides to all of their stories:

Coble left for part of one season to be with his mother as she went through
cancer treatment; I'm sure few if any would fault him for doing that.
Also, rumor is that Carmody essentially ran him off the team for good with
an ultimatum that he go on the Italy trip with the team or be thrown off
the team while Coble was still trying to fully rehab his foot prior to the
regular season (the trip was over the summer).  Not sure if the entire
story ever fully came out but one could definitely see either side of this
one (actually, seems like both sides have some fault).

Though Mike Thompson (Duke transfer) didn't have much of an impact and
there were rumors of him essentially giving up on the team, there was also
a report that he left the team due to an irregular heartbeat that was
discovered after about one full year of being eligible to play at NU.

Finally, TJ Parker - he did forego his final season of eligibility to go
pro (in Europe), I find it difficult to fault a guy who really wants to go
pro and does so when that opportunity arises (I can see it more in football
where injury plays such a large role, but given the limited opportunities
in the pro game I can't fault one in basketball, either).  Again, not
definitive but I can see his reasons.

In any case it's also clear that Carmody hasn't brought in nearly enough
depth to field a team that can play at a consistently high level.  But, no
matter, they could win 3 more games and make it into the tourney and that's
all anyone cares about (myself included).


Jonathan

--
Jonathan Hodges
Contributor, HailToPurple
Web: http://www.hailtopurple.com/jhodges/
Twitter: @hailtopurple
Email: j-hodges at alumni.northwestern.edu



On Sun, Feb 19, 2012 at 11:01 PM, Roy S. Lamberton <rstetson at capps-assoc.com
> wrote:

> For all of BC's faults, he does seem to stress the idea of team when it
> comes to playing
> the games.
>
> Kevin Coble was every bit as talented as Shurna, but Shurna puts the team
> ahead of his own
> accomplishments - even his TV interview last night with Shon M, featured
> him deflecting
> some of the glory for setting the new record, towards his teammates, and
> the fact that
> they won the game. I don't know Coble personally, but it always seemed
> that he was always
> more interested in his personal stuff, than playing for the team.
>
> Should Carmody let him go train away from the team while they were
> traveling? Maybe, but
> the rest of the team made the trip regardless of their physical condition.
>
> In any case, it seems that star players don't really thrive in the
> Princeton offense,
> especially under Carmody. The Princeton requires 5 players to make it work
> properly -
> stick in a superstar and it might not work as well.
>
> Guys like T.J. Parker and Michael Thompson, who could have been stars at
> NU, couldn't put
> their personal desires below the team. Parker left early, Thompson never
> really showed up.
> BC wished them well, and good luck and moved on to kids who will play his
> offense under
> control.
>
> This team seems to like playing BC's Offense and playing under BC. It
> shows on their
> faces, when they screw up, they mirror the coach's reaction, and when they
> do something
> great, the coaches are there to pat them on the back.
>
> And when Shurna broke the record, Carmody shook hands, and got out of the
> camera shot so
> Shurna could be covered surrounded by his teammates. OK maybe that wasn't
> intentional, but
> that's how it worked out.
>
> Meanwhile, Ill-noise is probably working up a short list of replacements
> for Weber.
> Bringing that program back is going to be tougher than you might think,
> altho they do have
> the players. Getting them all to believe in team is going to be the big
> issue.
>
> rsl
>
>
> +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
> Opinions expressed above are mine alone and are not
> those of any organizations of which I am a member.
> +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
> Roy S. Lamberton - Senior Associate.
> Computer Applications & Support Associates
> Coach Roy's Random Thoughts - http://coachroy.org
> --------------------- Also ----------------------
> "Commissioner" Delaware American Legion Baseball
> Director Media Relations - Little League
>  Senior League Softball World Series
> CTR2 USN (67-70) - CTRCS USNR (Ret) (64-67/70-95)
> Northwestern University - Speech 1974 -
> Chi Phi: Pi 1974, KD 1968
> Publisher Emeritus: Purple Reign (Fox Sports)
> =================================================
> There is nothing wrong with America that the faith,
> love of freedom, intelligence and energy of her citizens
> cannot cure - Dwight D. Eisenhower
> =  =  =  =  =  =  =  =  =  =  =  =  =  =  =  =  =
> If we become a country in which we say, 'Please,
> tell me how to live,' We're Doomed!"
>                   -- Pete Hamill, "Prohibition"
> ===========  Go Cats -  Beat 'em All  ===========
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: nwu-sports-bounces at tssi.com [mailto:nwu-sports-bounces at tssi.com] On
> Behalf Of
> Beamsley, Jeff
> Sent: Sunday, February 19, 2012 1:20 PM
> To: Tom Maycock; nwu-sports at tssi.com
> Subject: Re: [NU Sports] The Dance
>
> Leonard's attitude is EXACTLY the reason why we still play the games.
>
> He's right of course.
>
> Illnnoying basketball players ARE better athletes than NU basketball
> players.  They are
> taller, faster, can jump higher, and probably have better eye-hand
> coordination too.  As a
> result, they will likely send more players to the NBA than NU.
>
> What NU has, however, is something that Leonard doesn't understand.  It's
> a commitment to
> team and the belief that the team can greater than the sum of its parts.
>  That's the
> reason why NU won in Champaign.  That's also why Illinoisy lost in Lincoln.
>
> Hopefully it will also be the reason why NU will be getting their first
> invitation to the
> dance this year and why Leonard will be staying home blaming his fate on
> others failures.
>
>
> Jeff
>
>
> ________________________________
>
> From: nwu-sports-bounces at tssi.com on behalf of Tom Maycock
> Sent: Sun 2/19/2012 12:15 PM
> To: nwu-sports at tssi.com
> Subject: Re: [NU Sports] The Dance
>
>
>
> >   He had projected Illinois as the 7th team, but with
>
> > their loss at UNL, that leaves NU as the last BT invite.
>
>
> But how can that possibly be? According to Meyers Leonard himself,
> "everyone knows that
> [Illinois] is better than Northwestern", right?
>
> Meanwhile, there's a nice John Shurna highlight video montage up on the
> front page at
> nusports.com.
>
> Tom
>
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From neonrye at aol.com  Mon Feb 20 13:32:39 2012
From: neonrye at aol.com (neonrye at aol.com)
Date: Mon, 20 Feb 2012 14:32:39 -0500 (EST)
Subject: [NU Sports] Biggest Game in NU Hoops History??
Message-ID: <8CEBE1D8AC98179-107C-40A35@webmail-d087.sysops.aol.com>


>From CBSSports.com--"NU Faces Monumental Game Tuesday":  http://eye-on-college-basketball.blogs.cbssports.com/mcc/blogs/entry/26283066/34913409

From tkmaycock at yahoo.com  Mon Feb 20 13:34:38 2012
From: tkmaycock at yahoo.com (Tom Maycock)
Date: Mon, 20 Feb 2012 11:34:38 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [NU Sports] Women's Lacrosse Coach Establishing a Legacy -
In-Reply-To: <20120220184350.530A9655E7@romaine.tssi.com>
References: <1F89BB2CE7A5B94D969618E8CC769CC30147A02B34@XCHGBRS4.corp.espn.pvt>
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>>  http://thequad.blogs.nytimes.com/2012/02/18/38407/

> 
> Nice article, but it isn't clear what the author
> meant by 'establishing a legacy'.? 


I think it was intended to refer to the author's contention that KAH is deserving of consideration as one of the best college coaches ever.?

Personally, I'd agree with that. There's simply no way to fairly compare across sports or eras, so in that sense the discussion is somewhat pointless. But, just observing as a fan, it's hard to imagine anyone doing the job of "college coach" any better than Amonte-Hiller.?More concretely, her legacy will be the ever-increasing number of her ex-players holding assistant or head coaching positions elsewhere.?

However, I disagree with the author's rather negative assessment of fan support of the Lax team. It's all relative, of course. But at a school where we have trouble getting 30,000 fans (and 4,000 students) for football, getting 1,000 or more (including hundreds of students) out to a Lax game is pretty impressive.?

Speaking of Lax, they are now 2-and-0 after a couple of relatively easy wins over #6 Stanford and #5 Duke (although Duke is missing one of their best players this year).?

Prior to the start of the season, the Lax team was involved in the US Champion Lacrosse Challenge, where they worked out with and played exhibition games against English and American national teams.?

They beat the English team handily, but were completely dominated by the US national team, especially in the first half of the main game, which I watched via a live stream. It was *amazing* to see how good the national team is. They dominated NU like NU normally dominates mid-pack or lower college teams. NU could barely get the ball into the offensive zone in the first half, let alone get off a shot. They did play a lot better in the second half, and I'm sure the experience will benefit them greatly during the season--they won't play another team anywhere close to that good.?

Of course, a big chunk of the scoring and defensive damage done by the US team was at the hands of ex-NU players. There's that KAH legacy again.?

Tom



From rstetson at capps-assoc.com  Mon Feb 20 13:39:41 2012
From: rstetson at capps-assoc.com (Roy S. Lamberton)
Date: Mon, 20 Feb 2012 14:39:41 -0500
Subject: [NU Sports] The Dance
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As anyone who has taught in the public schools knows, there are always two sides to an
issue when late teenagers are around.

 

There is no doubt in my mind that the three who left NU and BC's system had good reasons
to leave, but they appeared more interested in their personal issues than the teams. What
was the sign on the door in Welsh-Ryan, "Those who stay will be Champions?" (OK, that was
probably an O'Neil thing).

 

Maybe I'm too close to high school athletes - those who will change high schools or go to
another town because they (or their parents) think they are smarter than the local coach.
I've seen so many of those kids who would have played a significant role at home, gamble
on the "bigger program" down the road, and never be heard from again. 

 

Could NU have made the NCAA tourney if Parker or Coble had stayed? We'll never know, the
same if Thompson had realized his potential. I won't try to intimate that I am an insider
to the basketball program, my inside contact is long gone, but it just seems that a star
will work well in BC's system as long as they consider the team to be more important than
their personal glory. We have a perfect example of "me" being more important than "team"
down in Champaign. (yes there are 3 "I's" in Illinois.)

 

Jitim, Juice, Tavaras and Shurna are three guys who stood out on the floor for NU yet
played within the system for all 4 years. And since every kid is different, who knows
which player on the Cats will next decide to move along before graduation.

 

Fitz, and Walker before him, didn't seem to have that kind of problem.

 

rsl

 

+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

Opinions expressed above are mine alone and are not

those of any organizations of which I am a member.

+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

Roy S. Lamberton - Senior Associate.

Computer Applications & Support Associates

Coach Roy's Random Thoughts - http://coachroy.org

--------------------- Also ----------------------

"Commissioner" Delaware American Legion Baseball

Director Media Relations - Little League 

  Senior League Softball World Series

CTR2 USN (67-70) - CTRCS USNR (Ret) (64-67/70-95)

Northwestern University - Speech 1974 - 

Chi Phi: Pi 1974, KD 1968

Publisher Emeritus: Purple Reign (Fox Sports)

=================================================

There is nothing wrong with America that the faith, 

love of freedom, intelligence and energy of her citizens 

cannot cure - Dwight D. Eisenhower
<http://www.quotationspage.com/quotes/Dwight_D._Eisenhower/> 

=  =  =  =  =  =  =  =  =  =  =  =  =  =  =  =  =

If we become a country in which we say, 'Please, 

tell me how to live,' We're Doomed!"

                   -- Pete Hamill, "Prohibition"

===========  Go Cats -  Beat 'em All  ===========

 

 

From: jonathanwhodges at gmail.com [mailto:jonathanwhodges at gmail.com] On Behalf Of Jonathan
Hodges
Sent: Monday, February 20, 2012 1:37 PM
To: Roy S. Lamberton
Cc: Beamsley, Jeff; Tom Maycock; nwu-sports at tssi.com
Subject: Re: [NU Sports] The Dance

 

I'd be be careful about calling out some of the players that you mentioned for being
selfish as there were two sides to all of their stories:

Coble left for part of one season to be with his mother as she went through cancer
treatment; I'm sure few if any would fault him for doing that.  Also, rumor is that
Carmody essentially ran him off the team for good with an ultimatum that he go on the
Italy trip with the team or be thrown off the team while Coble was still trying to fully
rehab his foot prior to the regular season (the trip was over the summer).  Not sure if
the entire story ever fully came out but one could definitely see either side of this one
(actually, seems like both sides have some fault).

Though Mike Thompson (Duke transfer) didn't have much of an impact and there were rumors
of him essentially giving up on the team, there was also a report that he left the team
due to an irregular heartbeat that was discovered after about one full year of being
eligible to play at NU.

Finally, TJ Parker - he did forego his final season of eligibility to go pro (in Europe),
I find it difficult to fault a guy who really wants to go pro and does so when that
opportunity arises (I can see it more in football where injury plays such a large role,
but given the limited opportunities in the pro game I can't fault one in basketball,
either).  Again, not definitive but I can see his reasons.

In any case it's also clear that Carmody hasn't brought in nearly enough depth to field a
team that can play at a consistently high level.  But, no matter, they could win 3 more
games and make it into the tourney and that's all anyone cares about (myself included).


Jonathan

--
Jonathan Hodges
Contributor, HailToPurple
Web: http://www.hailtopurple.com/jhodges/
Twitter: @hailtopurple
Email: j-hodges at alumni.northwestern.edu




On Sun, Feb 19, 2012 at 11:01 PM, Roy S. Lamberton <rstetson at capps-assoc.com> wrote:

For all of BC's faults, he does seem to stress the idea of team when it comes to playing
the games.

Kevin Coble was every bit as talented as Shurna, but Shurna puts the team ahead of his own
accomplishments - even his TV interview last night with Shon M, featured him deflecting
some of the glory for setting the new record, towards his teammates, and the fact that
they won the game. I don't know Coble personally, but it always seemed that he was always
more interested in his personal stuff, than playing for the team.

Should Carmody let him go train away from the team while they were traveling? Maybe, but
the rest of the team made the trip regardless of their physical condition.

In any case, it seems that star players don't really thrive in the Princeton offense,
especially under Carmody. The Princeton requires 5 players to make it work properly -
stick in a superstar and it might not work as well.

Guys like T.J. Parker and Michael Thompson, who could have been stars at NU, couldn't put
their personal desires below the team. Parker left early, Thompson never really showed up.
BC wished them well, and good luck and moved on to kids who will play his offense under
control.

This team seems to like playing BC's Offense and playing under BC. It shows on their
faces, when they screw up, they mirror the coach's reaction, and when they do something
great, the coaches are there to pat them on the back.

And when Shurna broke the record, Carmody shook hands, and got out of the camera shot so
Shurna could be covered surrounded by his teammates. OK maybe that wasn't intentional, but
that's how it worked out.

Meanwhile, Ill-noise is probably working up a short list of replacements for Weber.
Bringing that program back is going to be tougher than you might think, altho they do have
the players. Getting them all to believe in team is going to be the big issue.


rsl


+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
Opinions expressed above are mine alone and are not
those of any organizations of which I am a member.
+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
Roy S. Lamberton - Senior Associate.
Computer Applications & Support Associates
Coach Roy's Random Thoughts - http://coachroy.org
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-----Original Message-----
From: nwu-sports-bounces at tssi.com [mailto:nwu-sports-bounces at tssi.com] On Behalf Of

Beamsley, Jeff
Sent: Sunday, February 19, 2012 1:20 PM
To: Tom Maycock; nwu-sports at tssi.com
Subject: Re: [NU Sports] The Dance

Leonard's attitude is EXACTLY the reason why we still play the games.

He's right of course.

Illnnoying basketball players ARE better athletes than NU basketball players.  They are
taller, faster, can jump higher, and probably have better eye-hand coordination too.  As a
result, they will likely send more players to the NBA than NU.

What NU has, however, is something that Leonard doesn't understand.  It's a commitment to
team and the belief that the team can greater than the sum of its parts.  That's the
reason why NU won in Champaign.  That's also why Illinoisy lost in Lincoln.

Hopefully it will also be the reason why NU will be getting their first invitation to the
dance this year and why Leonard will be staying home blaming his fate on others failures.


Jeff


________________________________

From: nwu-sports-bounces at tssi.com on behalf of Tom Maycock
Sent: Sun 2/19/2012 12:15 PM
To: nwu-sports at tssi.com
Subject: Re: [NU Sports] The Dance



>   He had projected Illinois as the 7th team, but with

> their loss at UNL, that leaves NU as the last BT invite.


But how can that possibly be? According to Meyers Leonard himself, "everyone knows that
[Illinois] is better than Northwestern", right?

Meanwhile, there's a nice John Shurna highlight video montage up on the front page at
nusports.com.

Tom

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From rstetson at capps-assoc.com  Mon Feb 20 14:02:14 2012
From: rstetson at capps-assoc.com (Roy S. Lamberton)
Date: Mon, 20 Feb 2012 15:02:14 -0500
Subject: [NU Sports] Women's Lacrosse Coach Establishing a Legacy -
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I know they've played the last couple of NCAA Women's Lacrosse Finals in some big stadiums
- 

But even the championships in Baltimore - one of the national hotbeds of the sport - draw
less than half the capacity of the places the games are played.

Last year 8,011 turned out for the final out in Stony Brook, NY
9,782 for the 2010 Final in Towson MD,
And 6,515 showed up for 2009 at the same location.
They didn't show any attendance for 2008, or 2007.
2006 up in Boston attendance was 5,684.

And this was for a championship game. The opening round game in 2011 between Maryland and
Navy at College Park (two local teams in the hotbed of Mid Atlantic LaCrosse) drew 646
fans.

Should more people come to the NU Women's Games? Yeah, sure, but right now even the teams
in places known for Lacrosse don't draw big numbers.

You'd love to see a couple of thousand fans in the stands on the lakeshore for an NU
Lacrosse game, but we don't even fill Welsh-Ryan for Basketball with our own fans.

rsl


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  Senior League Softball World Series
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Northwestern University - Speech 1974 - 
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cannot cure - Dwight D. Eisenhower
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However, I disagree with the author's rather negative assessment of fan support of the Lax
team. It's all relative, of course. But at a school where we have trouble getting 30,000
fans (and 4,000 students) for football, getting 1,000 or more (including hundreds of
students) out to a Lax game is pretty impressive.? 


From alan.abrahamson at gmail.com  Mon Feb 20 14:05:09 2012
From: alan.abrahamson at gmail.com (Alan Abrahamson)
Date: Mon, 20 Feb 2012 12:05:09 -0800
Subject: [NU Sports] Women's Lacrosse Coach Establishing a Legacy -
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Frankly, the note that bothered me in the story was that the women's
players weren't allowed drinks in the weight room. Hello?


On Mon, Feb 20, 2012 at 12:02 PM, Roy S. Lamberton <rstetson at capps-assoc.com
> wrote:

> I know they've played the last couple of NCAA Women's Lacrosse Finals in
> some big stadiums
> -
>
> But even the championships in Baltimore - one of the national hotbeds of
> the sport - draw
> less than half the capacity of the places the games are played.
>
> Last year 8,011 turned out for the final out in Stony Brook, NY
> 9,782 for the 2010 Final in Towson MD,
> And 6,515 showed up for 2009 at the same location.
> They didn't show any attendance for 2008, or 2007.
> 2006 up in Boston attendance was 5,684.
>
> And this was for a championship game. The opening round game in 2011
> between Maryland and
> Navy at College Park (two local teams in the hotbed of Mid Atlantic
> LaCrosse) drew 646
> fans.
>
> Should more people come to the NU Women's Games? Yeah, sure, but right now
> even the teams
> in places known for Lacrosse don't draw big numbers.
>
> You'd love to see a couple of thousand fans in the stands on the lakeshore
> for an NU
> Lacrosse game, but we don't even fill Welsh-Ryan for Basketball with our
> own fans.
>
> rsl
>
>
> +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
> Opinions expressed above are mine alone and are not
> those of any organizations of which I am a member.
> +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
> Roy S. Lamberton - Senior Associate.
> Computer Applications & Support Associates
> Coach Roy's Random Thoughts - http://coachroy.org
> --------------------- Also ----------------------
> "Commissioner" Delaware American Legion Baseball
> Director Media Relations - Little League
>  Senior League Softball World Series
> CTR2 USN (67-70) - CTRCS USNR (Ret) (64-67/70-95)
> Northwestern University - Speech 1974 -
> Chi Phi: Pi 1974, KD 1968
> Publisher Emeritus: Purple Reign (Fox Sports)
> =================================================
> There is nothing wrong with America that the faith,
> love of freedom, intelligence and energy of her citizens
> cannot cure - Dwight D. Eisenhower
> =  =  =  =  =  =  =  =  =  =  =  =  =  =  =  =  =
> If we become a country in which we say, 'Please,
> tell me how to live,' We're Doomed!"
>                   -- Pete Hamill, "Prohibition"
> ===========  Go Cats -  Beat 'em All  ===========
>
>
> However, I disagree with the author's rather negative assessment of fan
> support of the Lax
> team. It's all relative, of course. But at a school where we have trouble
> getting 30,000
> fans (and 4,000 students) for football, getting 1,000 or more (including
> hundreds of
> students) out to a Lax game is pretty impressive.
>
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From rstetson at capps-assoc.com  Mon Feb 20 14:04:47 2012
From: rstetson at capps-assoc.com (Roy S. Lamberton)
Date: Mon, 20 Feb 2012 15:04:47 -0500
Subject: [NU Sports] The Dance
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Yeah, I've been around HS kids too long.

I named 4 and said those three - teach me to edit in a hurry.

rsl

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--------------------- Also ----------------------
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Director Media Relations - Little League 
  Senior League Softball World Series
CTR2 USN (67-70) - CTRCS USNR (Ret) (64-67/70-95)
Northwestern University - Speech 1974 - 
Chi Phi: Pi 1974, KD 1968
Publisher Emeritus: Purple Reign (Fox Sports)
=================================================
There is nothing wrong with America that the faith, 
love of freedom, intelligence and energy of her citizens 
cannot cure - Dwight D. Eisenhower
=  =  =  =  =  =  =  =  =  =  =  =  =  =  =  =  =
If we become a country in which we say, 'Please, 
tell me how to live,' We're Doomed!"
                   -- Pete Hamill, "Prohibition"
===========  Go Cats -? Beat 'em All  ===========



-----Original Message-----
From: nwu-sports-bounces at tssi.com [mailto:nwu-sports-bounces at tssi.com] On Behalf Of Roy S.
Lamberton
Sent: Monday, February 20, 2012 2:40 PM
To: 'Jonathan Hodges'
Cc: nwu-sports at tssi.com
Subject: Re: [NU Sports] The Dance

As anyone who has taught in the public schools knows, there are always two sides to an
issue when late teenagers are around.

 

There is no doubt in my mind that the three who left NU and BC's system had good reasons
to leave, but they appeared more interested in their personal issues than the teams. What
was the sign on the door in Welsh-Ryan, "Those who stay will be Champions?" (OK, that was
probably an O'Neil thing).

 

Maybe I'm too close to high school athletes - those who will change high schools or go to
another town because they (or their parents) think they are smarter than the local coach.
I've seen so many of those kids who would have played a significant role at home, gamble
on the "bigger program" down the road, and never be heard from again. 

 

Could NU have made the NCAA tourney if Parker or Coble had stayed? We'll never know, the
same if Thompson had realized his potential. I won't try to intimate that I am an insider
to the basketball program, my inside contact is long gone, but it just seems that a star
will work well in BC's system as long as they consider the team to be more important than
their personal glory. We have a perfect example of "me" being more important than "team"
down in Champaign. (yes there are 3 "I's" in Illinois.)

 

Jitim, Juice, Tavaras and Shurna are three guys who stood out on the floor for NU yet
played within the system for all 4 years. And since every kid is different, who knows
which player on the Cats will next decide to move along before graduation.

 

Fitz, and Walker before him, didn't seem to have that kind of problem.

 

rsl

 

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--------------------- Also ----------------------

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Director Media Relations - Little League 

  Senior League Softball World Series

CTR2 USN (67-70) - CTRCS USNR (Ret) (64-67/70-95)

Northwestern University - Speech 1974 - 

Chi Phi: Pi 1974, KD 1968

Publisher Emeritus: Purple Reign (Fox Sports)

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love of freedom, intelligence and energy of her citizens 

cannot cure - Dwight D. Eisenhower
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                   -- Pete Hamill, "Prohibition"

===========  Go Cats -  Beat 'em All  ===========

 

 

From: jonathanwhodges at gmail.com [mailto:jonathanwhodges at gmail.com] On Behalf Of Jonathan
Hodges
Sent: Monday, February 20, 2012 1:37 PM
To: Roy S. Lamberton
Cc: Beamsley, Jeff; Tom Maycock; nwu-sports at tssi.com
Subject: Re: [NU Sports] The Dance

 

I'd be be careful about calling out some of the players that you mentioned for being
selfish as there were two sides to all of their stories:

Coble left for part of one season to be with his mother as she went through cancer
treatment; I'm sure few if any would fault him for doing that.  Also, rumor is that
Carmody essentially ran him off the team for good with an ultimatum that he go on the
Italy trip with the team or be thrown off the team while Coble was still trying to fully
rehab his foot prior to the regular season (the trip was over the summer).  Not sure if
the entire story ever fully came out but one could definitely see either side of this one
(actually, seems like both sides have some fault).

Though Mike Thompson (Duke transfer) didn't have much of an impact and there were rumors
of him essentially giving up on the team, there was also a report that he left the team
due to an irregular heartbeat that was discovered after about one full year of being
eligible to play at NU.

Finally, TJ Parker - he did forego his final season of eligibility to go pro (in Europe),
I find it difficult to fault a guy who really wants to go pro and does so when that
opportunity arises (I can see it more in football where injury plays such a large role,
but given the limited opportunities in the pro game I can't fault one in basketball,
either).  Again, not definitive but I can see his reasons.

In any case it's also clear that Carmody hasn't brought in nearly enough depth to field a
team that can play at a consistently high level.  But, no matter, they could win 3 more
games and make it into the tourney and that's all anyone cares about (myself included).


Jonathan

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Contributor, HailToPurple
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On Sun, Feb 19, 2012 at 11:01 PM, Roy S. Lamberton <rstetson at capps-assoc.com> wrote:

For all of BC's faults, he does seem to stress the idea of team when it comes to playing
the games.

Kevin Coble was every bit as talented as Shurna, but Shurna puts the team ahead of his own
accomplishments - even his TV interview last night with Shon M, featured him deflecting
some of the glory for setting the new record, towards his teammates, and the fact that
they won the game. I don't know Coble personally, but it always seemed that he was always
more interested in his personal stuff, than playing for the team.

Should Carmody let him go train away from the team while they were traveling? Maybe, but
the rest of the team made the trip regardless of their physical condition.

In any case, it seems that star players don't really thrive in the Princeton offense,
especially under Carmody. The Princeton requires 5 players to make it work properly -
stick in a superstar and it might not work as well.

Guys like T.J. Parker and Michael Thompson, who could have been stars at NU, couldn't put
their personal desires below the team. Parker left early, Thompson never really showed up.
BC wished them well, and good luck and moved on to kids who will play his offense under
control.

This team seems to like playing BC's Offense and playing under BC. It shows on their
faces, when they screw up, they mirror the coach's reaction, and when they do something
great, the coaches are there to pat them on the back.

And when Shurna broke the record, Carmody shook hands, and got out of the camera shot so
Shurna could be covered surrounded by his teammates. OK maybe that wasn't intentional, but
that's how it worked out.

Meanwhile, Ill-noise is probably working up a short list of replacements for Weber.
Bringing that program back is going to be tougher than you might think, altho they do have
the players. Getting them all to believe in team is going to be the big issue.


rsl


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=  =  =  =  =  = If we become a country in which we say, 'Please, tell me how to live,'
We're Doomed!"
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-----Original Message-----
From: nwu-sports-bounces at tssi.com [mailto:nwu-sports-bounces at tssi.com] On Behalf Of

Beamsley, Jeff
Sent: Sunday, February 19, 2012 1:20 PM
To: Tom Maycock; nwu-sports at tssi.com
Subject: Re: [NU Sports] The Dance

Leonard's attitude is EXACTLY the reason why we still play the games.

He's right of course.

Illnnoying basketball players ARE better athletes than NU basketball players.  They are
taller, faster, can jump higher, and probably have better eye-hand coordination too.  As a
result, they will likely send more players to the NBA than NU.

What NU has, however, is something that Leonard doesn't understand.  It's a commitment to
team and the belief that the team can greater than the sum of its parts.  That's the
reason why NU won in Champaign.  That's also why Illinoisy lost in Lincoln.

Hopefully it will also be the reason why NU will be getting their first invitation to the
dance this year and why Leonard will be staying home blaming his fate on others failures.


Jeff


________________________________

From: nwu-sports-bounces at tssi.com on behalf of Tom Maycock
Sent: Sun 2/19/2012 12:15 PM
To: nwu-sports at tssi.com
Subject: Re: [NU Sports] The Dance



>   He had projected Illinois as the 7th team, but with

> their loss at UNL, that leaves NU as the last BT invite.


But how can that possibly be? According to Meyers Leonard himself, "everyone knows that
[Illinois] is better than Northwestern", right?

Meanwhile, there's a nice John Shurna highlight video montage up on the front page at
nusports.com.

Tom

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From tkmaycock at yahoo.com  Mon Feb 20 14:21:13 2012
From: tkmaycock at yahoo.com (Tom Maycock)
Date: Mon, 20 Feb 2012 12:21:13 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [NU Sports] Women's Lacrosse Coach Establishing a Legacy -
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>Frankly, the note that bothered me in the story was that the women's players weren't allowed drinks in the weight room. Hello?


Yeah, that was a little odd. I suppose they do have to make some extreme efforts to keep all the budgets properly sorted out, but that bit doesn't sound good.?

Tom



From rstetson at capps-assoc.com  Mon Feb 20 14:32:22 2012
From: rstetson at capps-assoc.com (Roy S. Lamberton)
Date: Mon, 20 Feb 2012 15:32:22 -0500
Subject: [NU Sports] Women's Lacrosse Coach Establishing a Legacy -
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"For example, in the school?s weight room for athletes, a refrigerator filled with sports
drinks has a sign on the door explaining that because the drinks were bought with football
and basketball revenue, the drinks are restricted to those teams. Any lacrosse player who
takes a drink could have to ?forfeit their weight room privileges.?

There's the quote for those who didn't read the story....

Funny that the Athletic Dept doesn't provide drinks for all of the athletes in the weight
room  or that the Lacrosse boosters don't have a piece of that action.

Given how vocal most of our athletes seem to be about things, you wonder if it is even an
issue among the athletes.

rsl

+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
Opinions expressed above are mine alone and are not
those of any organizations of which I am a member.
+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
Roy S. Lamberton - Senior Associate.
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--------------------- Also ----------------------
"Commissioner" Delaware American Legion Baseball
Director Media Relations - Little League 
  Senior League Softball World Series
CTR2 USN (67-70) - CTRCS USNR (Ret) (64-67/70-95)
Northwestern University - Speech 1974 - 
Chi Phi: Pi 1974, KD 1968
Publisher Emeritus: Purple Reign (Fox Sports)
=================================================
There is nothing wrong with America that the faith, 
love of freedom, intelligence and energy of her citizens 
cannot cure - Dwight D. Eisenhower
=  =  =  =  =  =  =  =  =  =  =  =  =  =  =  =  =
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tell me how to live,' We're Doomed!"
                   -- Pete Hamill, "Prohibition"
===========  Go Cats -? Beat 'em All  ===========



-----Original Message-----
From: Tom Maycock [mailto:tkmaycock at yahoo.com] 
Sent: Monday, February 20, 2012 3:21 PM
To: Alan Abrahamson; Roy S. Lamberton
Cc: NUSports Listserv
Subject: Re: [NU Sports] Women's Lacrosse Coach Establishing a Legacy -

>Frankly, the note that bothered me in the story was that the women's players weren't
allowed drinks in the weight room. Hello?


Yeah, that was a little odd. I suppose they do have to make some extreme efforts to keep
all the budgets properly sorted out, but that bit doesn't sound good.?

Tom



From rstetson at capps-assoc.com  Mon Feb 20 14:34:09 2012
From: rstetson at capps-assoc.com (Roy S. Lamberton)
Date: Mon, 20 Feb 2012 15:34:09 -0500
Subject: [NU Sports] Meanwhile, in College Park, MD....
Message-ID: <003d01ccf00f$00719080$0154b180$@com>

The Lady Terps are also showing some serious O (altho it is against some lower ranked
teams)

http://thequad.blogs.nytimes.com/2012/02/17/for-maryland-womens-lacrosse-a-high-scoring-st
art/

rsl
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From AJWDBW at aol.com  Mon Feb 20 16:18:37 2012
From: AJWDBW at aol.com (AJWDBW at aol.com)
Date: Mon, 20 Feb 2012 17:18:37 -0500 (EST)
Subject: [NU Sports] Women's Lacrosse Coach Establishing a Legacy -
Message-ID: <523c.2ab8c009.3c7420bd@aol.com>

That caught my eye, also. What kind of cheap s**t is that? The more I think 
 of it, the madder I get.
Don Williams C55
 
 
In a message dated 2/20/2012 2:05:53 P.M. Central Standard Time,  
alan.abrahamson at gmail.com writes:

Frankly,  the note that bothered me in the story was that the women's
players weren't  allowed drinks in the weight room.  Hello?



From thehaze at earthlink.net  Mon Feb 20 16:49:07 2012
From: thehaze at earthlink.net (Jim Bendat)
Date: Mon, 20 Feb 2012 14:49:07 -0800 (GMT-08:00)
Subject: [NU Sports] Biggest Game in NU Hoops History??
Message-ID: <7176877.1329778147857.JavaMail.root@wamui-junio.atl.sa.earthlink.net>

It will be the biggest game in NU hoops history - if we win. If we lose, then next week's Ohio State game becomes the biggest game in our history, right?!
 

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>From CBSSports.com--"NU Faces Monumental Game Tuesday":  http://eye-on-college-basketball.blogs.cbssports.com/mcc/blogs/entry/26283066/34913409
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From alan.abrahamson at gmail.com  Mon Feb 20 16:56:42 2012
From: alan.abrahamson at gmail.com (Alan Abrahamson)
Date: Mon, 20 Feb 2012 14:56:42 -0800
Subject: [NU Sports] Biggest Game in NU Hoops History??
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Either way, right?

Let's say we are 8-8 heading into the game with the Buckeyes. (Please, good
lord.)



On Mon, Feb 20, 2012 at 2:49 PM, Jim Bendat <thehaze at earthlink.net> wrote:

> It will be the biggest game in NU hoops history - if we win. If we lose,
> then next week's Ohio State game becomes the biggest game in our history,
> right?!
>
>
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> >
> >From CBSSports.com--"NU Faces Monumental Game Tuesday":
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From cherron604 at aol.com  Mon Feb 20 18:06:14 2012
From: cherron604 at aol.com (andy young)
Date: Mon, 20 Feb 2012 19:06:14 -0500 (EST)
Subject: [NU Sports] Biggest Game in NU Hoops History??
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 Before we get too caught up in 'the biggest game in history' hoopla, let's remember that Dutch Lonborg, of Gardner, IL won the Big Ten championship in 1931 and 1933, and NU was the Helms Foundation National Champion in 1931.  It is certainly one of the biggest games since the 1930's.

Chuck Herron   Tech '85

 
 

 

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>From CBSSports.com--"NU Faces Monumental Game Tuesday":  http://eye-on-college-basketball.blogs.cbssports.com/mcc/blogs/entry/26283066/34913409
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From nolan at tssi.com  Mon Feb 20 21:52:55 2012
From: nolan at tssi.com (Mike Nolan)
Date: Mon, 20 Feb 2012 21:52:55 -0600 (CST)
Subject: [NU Sports] Biggest Game in NU Hoops History??
In-Reply-To: <8CEBE43C2A0CD04-1D44-3C7B7@webmail-d085.sysops.aol.com>
Message-ID: <20120221035256.1BEBE65622@romaine.tssi.com>

>  Before we get too caught up in 'the biggest game in history' hoopla, let's remember that Dutch Lonborg, of Gardner, IL won the Big Ten championship in 1931 and 1933, and NU was the Helms Foundation National Champion in 1931.  It is certainly one of the biggest games since the 1930's.

And I recall the Northestern vs UCLA game, played at the Chicago Stadium back during the Lew 
Alcindor era, being dubbed the biggest game in NU history, too.
--
Mike Nolan


From nolan at tssi.com  Mon Feb 20 21:55:43 2012
From: nolan at tssi.com (Mike Nolan)
Date: Mon, 20 Feb 2012 21:55:43 -0600 (CST)
Subject: [NU Sports] Women's Lacrosse Coach Establishing a Legacy -
In-Reply-To: <523c.2ab8c009.3c7420bd@aol.com>
Message-ID: <20120221035543.8E51F65617@romaine.tssi.com>

> That caught my eye, also. What kind of cheap s**t is that? The more I think 
>  of it, the madder I get.

Welcome to the fun world of NCAA regulations.  God forbid one sport at a school 
should provide direct benefits to other sports!  And Nebraska is now on NCAA
probation because, heaven help us, they bought some athletes the RECOMMENDED textbooks
for some courses.  Even the NCAA President thinks that is a dumb rule.
--
Mike Nolan


From rstetson at capps-assoc.com  Tue Feb 21 07:07:00 2012
From: rstetson at capps-assoc.com (Roy S. Lamberton)
Date: Tue, 21 Feb 2012 08:07:00 -0500
Subject: [NU Sports] Fat Tuesday
Message-ID: <000a01ccf099$b329b7e0$197d27a0$@com>

As in the Wildcats Pad their resume with a "fat" win over some Wolves.

The Purple Shirt is ready to work its mojo, and my schedule is clear for tonight.

Expect Victory.

rsl

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===========  Go Cats -? Beat 'em All  ===========





From hakirsch at aol.com  Tue Feb 21 07:12:32 2012
From: hakirsch at aol.com (hakirsch at aol.com)
Date: Tue, 21 Feb 2012 13:12:32 +0000
Subject: [NU Sports] Fat Tuesday
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NU is favored by a trey tonight

Harry
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Subject: [NU Sports] Fat Tuesday

As in the Wildcats Pad their resume with a "fat" win over some Wolves.

The Purple Shirt is ready to work its mojo, and my schedule is clear for tonight.

Expect Victory.

rsl

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--------------------- Also ----------------------
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Director Media Relations - Little League 
  Senior League Softball World Series
CTR2 USN (67-70) - CTRCS USNR (Ret) (64-67/70-95)
Northwestern University - Speech 1974 - 
Chi Phi: Pi 1974, KD 1968
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cannot cure - Dwight D. Eisenhower
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From AJWDBW at aol.com  Tue Feb 21 09:02:42 2012
From: AJWDBW at aol.com (AJWDBW at aol.com)
Date: Tue, 21 Feb 2012 10:02:42 -0500 (EST)
Subject: [NU Sports] Women's Lacrosse Coach Establishing a Legacy -
Message-ID: <a75f.663c88f9.3c750c12@aol.com>

Thanks for the clarification, Mike. I should have known.
Don
 
 
In a message dated 2/20/2012 9:55:45 P.M. Central Standard Time,  
nolan at tssi.com writes:

>  That caught my eye, also. What kind of cheap s**t is that? The more I 
think  
>  of it, the madder I get.

Welcome to the fun world of  NCAA regulations.  God forbid one sport at a 
school 
should provide  direct benefits to other sports!  And Nebraska is now on  
NCAA
probation because, heaven help us, they bought some athletes the  
RECOMMENDED textbooks
for some courses.  Even the NCAA President  thinks that is a dumb rule.
--
Mike  Nolan


From alan.abrahamson at gmail.com  Tue Feb 21 14:07:21 2012
From: alan.abrahamson at gmail.com (Alan Abrahamson)
Date: Tue, 21 Feb 2012 12:07:21 -0800
Subject: [NU Sports] Wilbon on must-win
Message-ID: <CAN7senhWq68Gw70F0BiPwLr5yAnvgAhm1tNfpRvD1PWT7COssA@mail.gmail.com>

http://espn.go.com/chicago/story/_/id/7596489/northwestern-win-territory-quest-first-ncaa-tournament-bid

From rstetson at capps-assoc.com  Tue Feb 21 16:44:10 2012
From: rstetson at capps-assoc.com (Roy S. Lamberton)
Date: Tue, 21 Feb 2012 17:44:10 -0500
Subject: [NU Sports] Wilbon on must-win
In-Reply-To: <CAN7senhWq68Gw70F0BiPwLr5yAnvgAhm1tNfpRvD1PWT7COssA@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAN7senhWq68Gw70F0BiPwLr5yAnvgAhm1tNfpRvD1PWT7COssA@mail.gmail.com>
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Mike can send me his tickets - my last visit to Welsh-Ryan was the early in BC's time at
NU win over Indiana, I'm actually .500 watching the roundball cats.

We also play very well when I have my pocketless Purple golf shirt on and watch on my big
screen TV. That is in the cards for tonight. No record on this scenario, but it is well
over .750.

You do not want me to go to Ryan for a football game. The Cats have never won a game when
Coach Roy is in the stands.

Go Cats

rsl

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--------------------- Also ----------------------
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Director Media Relations - Little League 
  Senior League Softball World Series
CTR2 USN (67-70) - CTRCS USNR (Ret) (64-67/70-95)
Northwestern University - Speech 1974 - 
Chi Phi: Pi 1974, KD 1968
Publisher Emeritus: Purple Reign (Fox Sports)
=================================================
There is nothing wrong with America that the faith, 
love of freedom, intelligence and energy of her citizens 
cannot cure - Dwight D. Eisenhower
=  =  =  =  =  =  =  =  =  =  =  =  =  =  =  =  =
If we become a country in which we say, 'Please, 
tell me how to live,' We're Doomed!"
                   -- Pete Hamill, "Prohibition"
===========  Go Cats -? Beat 'em All  ===========



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Sent: Tuesday, February 21, 2012 3:07 PM
To: Northwestern Wildcats
Subject: [NU Sports] Wilbon on must-win

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From tkmaycock at yahoo.com  Tue Feb 21 16:57:15 2012
From: tkmaycock at yahoo.com (Tom Maycock)
Date: Tue, 21 Feb 2012 14:57:15 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [NU Sports] Wilbon on must-win
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For what it's worth, NU is undefeated when I've been in attendance at W-R this year (MSU and Iowa, plus a couple of non-con games).?

I'll be there tonight--hoping the streak continues!

Tom

From Willie.Weinbaum at espn.com  Tue Feb 21 18:14:19 2012
From: Willie.Weinbaum at espn.com (Weinbaum, Willie)
Date: Tue, 21 Feb 2012 19:14:19 -0500
Subject: [NU Sports] if you turn on Big Ten Network now
Message-ID: <1F89BB2CE7A5B94D969618E8CC769CC30147FE1F65@XCHGBRS4.corp.espn.pvt>

BTN's Greatest games - - the wild NU defeat of Michigan.  Last three minutes of game now.

From rstetson at capps-assoc.com  Tue Feb 21 19:51:54 2012
From: rstetson at capps-assoc.com (Roy S. Lamberton)
Date: Tue, 21 Feb 2012 20:51:54 -0500
Subject: [NU Sports] It would be easy
Message-ID: <000001ccf104$8eb21360$ac163a20$@com>

To have given up when Michigan was up early.

But the Cats adjusted and are scoring AND rebounding.

20 minutes to go.

rsl

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Director Media Relations - Little League 
  Senior League Softball World Series
CTR2 USN (67-70) - CTRCS USNR (Ret) (64-67/70-95)
Northwestern University - Speech 1974 - 
Chi Phi: Pi 1974, KD 1968
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love of freedom, intelligence and energy of her citizens 
cannot cure - Dwight D. Eisenhower
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tell me how to live,' We're Doomed!"
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===========  Go Cats -? Beat 'em All  ===========




From Willie.Weinbaum at espn.com  Tue Feb 21 19:55:01 2012
From: Willie.Weinbaum at espn.com (Weinbaum, Willie)
Date: Tue, 21 Feb 2012 20:55:01 -0500
Subject: [NU Sports] first half
Message-ID: <1F89BB2CE7A5B94D969618E8CC769CC30147FE1F92@XCHGBRS4.corp.espn.pvt>

Before Cobb's return to the team...

Who'd have thought that NU could have Shurna & Crawford on the bench and make a nice run to tie the game...and then, with Shurna & Crawford back on the floor, but Sobolewski on the bench with two fouls, that the Cats would open a seven-point lead going into halftime?

All of a sudden the Cats have a bit of depth and a bit of balance.  Getting Michigan into team foul trouble was big...among the benefits was that UM couldn't risk pressing the Cats' guards when Sobolewski was on the bench.

Reggie Hearn is Mr. Lunch-pail, Heart, Dependable, Fundamental...Boards-crasher.

Davide Curletti is no longer the Invisible Man - - the Michigan native awakens on offense for the home games against teams from his home state.

Shurna quietly in doubly figures and did a nice job of involving his teammates.

Nice defense in man-to-man and 1-3-1.

Tense...

P.S. Nice to see McKinney/Shurna pregame ceremony - - two fine reps of our alma mater!




From tbng at comcast.net  Tue Feb 21 21:39:02 2012
From: tbng at comcast.net (Dennis W. Brandt)
Date: Tue, 21 Feb 2012 22:39:02 -0500
Subject: [NU Sports] Another hard fought loss
Message-ID: <CD44546AB15A47C4A3A97648068B331C@dennismachine>

We scrap like five Rockys, get good games from Hearn and Curletti, rebound better than usual, and still we lose.  We just don't know how to close out a win.  Our offense in the closing minutes and throughout the entire overtime was playground-based.

From rstetson at capps-assoc.com  Tue Feb 21 21:35:42 2012
From: rstetson at capps-assoc.com (Roy S. Lamberton)
Date: Tue, 21 Feb 2012 22:35:42 -0500
Subject: [NU Sports] Another hard fought loss
In-Reply-To: <CD44546AB15A47C4A3A97648068B331C@dennismachine>
References: <CD44546AB15A47C4A3A97648068B331C@dennismachine>
Message-ID: <000a01ccf113$0e959b20$2bc0d160$@com>

To Michigan's credit...

They played D
Their fans turned the last 7 minutes into their home game.

rsl

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--------------------- Also ----------------------
"Commissioner" Delaware American Legion Baseball
Director Media Relations - Little League 
  Senior League Softball World Series
CTR2 USN (67-70) - CTRCS USNR (Ret) (64-67/70-95)
Northwestern University - Speech 1974 - 
Chi Phi: Pi 1974, KD 1968
Publisher Emeritus: Purple Reign (Fox Sports)
=================================================
There is nothing wrong with America that the faith, 
love of freedom, intelligence and energy of her citizens 
cannot cure - Dwight D. Eisenhower
=  =  =  =  =  =  =  =  =  =  =  =  =  =  =  =  =
If we become a country in which we say, 'Please, 
tell me how to live,' We're Doomed!"
                   -- Pete Hamill, "Prohibition"
===========  Go Cats -? Beat 'em All  ===========



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Sent: Tuesday, February 21, 2012 10:39 PM
To: nwu-sports at tssi.com
Subject: [NU Sports] Another hard fought loss

We scrap like five Rockys, get good games from Hearn and Curletti, rebound better than
usual, and still we lose.  We just don't know how to close out a win.  Our offense in the
closing minutes and throughout the entire overtime was playground-based.
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From neonrye at aol.com  Tue Feb 21 22:04:38 2012
From: neonrye at aol.com (neonrye at aol.com)
Date: Wed, 22 Feb 2012 04:04:38 +0000
Subject: [NU Sports] Another hard fought loss
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To All:

It is so friggin' painful to be an NU fan.  But I still wouldn't have it any other way--even though my wife tells me I should have picked a school that wins.:-). Wow, this one really hurts.  But so did the Rose Bowl, Alamo, TicketCity, Outback,.....I just wanna see one bowl win and dance one time on Selction Sunday before I shuffle off this mortal coil, or whatever that expression is.  I feel like Tevya pleading to God in Fiddler, "Would it spoil some vast eternal plan?". If I was a dancin', bowlin' man???
Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry

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Date: Tue, 21 Feb 2012 22:35:42 
To: 'Dennis W. Brandt'<tbng at comcast.net>; <nwu-sports at tssi.com>
Subject: Re: [NU Sports] Another hard fought loss

To Michigan's credit...

They played D
Their fans turned the last 7 minutes into their home game.

rsl

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those of any organizations of which I am a member.
+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
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Computer Applications & Support Associates
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--------------------- Also ----------------------
"Commissioner" Delaware American Legion Baseball
Director Media Relations - Little League 
  Senior League Softball World Series
CTR2 USN (67-70) - CTRCS USNR (Ret) (64-67/70-95)
Northwestern University - Speech 1974 - 
Chi Phi: Pi 1974, KD 1968
Publisher Emeritus: Purple Reign (Fox Sports)
=================================================
There is nothing wrong with America that the faith, 
love of freedom, intelligence and energy of her citizens 
cannot cure - Dwight D. Eisenhower
=  =  =  =  =  =  =  =  =  =  =  =  =  =  =  =  =
If we become a country in which we say, 'Please, 
tell me how to live,' We're Doomed!"
                   -- Pete Hamill, "Prohibition"
===========  Go Cats -? Beat 'em All  ===========



-----Original Message-----
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W. Brandt
Sent: Tuesday, February 21, 2012 10:39 PM
To: nwu-sports at tssi.com
Subject: [NU Sports] Another hard fought loss

We scrap like five Rockys, get good games from Hearn and Curletti, rebound better than
usual, and still we lose.  We just don't know how to close out a win.  Our offense in the
closing minutes and throughout the entire overtime was playground-based.
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From Willie.Weinbaum at espn.com  Tue Feb 21 22:13:03 2012
From: Willie.Weinbaum at espn.com (Weinbaum, Willie)
Date: Tue, 21 Feb 2012 23:13:03 -0500
Subject: [NU Sports] Another hard fought loss
In-Reply-To: <1289800217-1329883514-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-887103442-@b5.c19.bise6.blackberry>
References: <CD44546AB15A47C4A3A97648068B331C@dennismachine>
 <000a01ccf113$0e959b20$2bc0d160$@com>
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Message-ID: <1F89BB2CE7A5B94D969618E8CC769CC30147FE1FBD@XCHGBRS4.corp.espn.pvt>

Also apt from Tevye (could apply to wins/losses/NU fandom): "It's no great tragedy to be poor, but it's no great honor, either."

-----Original Message-----
From: nwu-sports-bounces at tssi.com [mailto:nwu-sports-bounces at tssi.com] On Behalf Of neonrye at aol.com
Sent: Tuesday, February 21, 2012 11:05 PM
To: Roy S. Lamberton; nwu-sports-bounces at tssi.com; 'Dennis W. Brandt'; nwu-sports at tssi.com
Subject: Re: [NU Sports] Another hard fought loss

To All:

It is so friggin' painful to be an NU fan.  But I still wouldn't have it any other way--even though my wife tells me I should have picked a school that wins.:-). Wow, this one really hurts.  But so did the Rose Bowl, Alamo, TicketCity, Outback,.....I just wanna see one bowl win and dance one time on Selction Sunday before I shuffle off this mortal coil, or whatever that expression is.  I feel like Tevya pleading to God in Fiddler, "Would it spoil some vast eternal plan?". If I was a dancin', bowlin' man???

Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry

-----Original Message-----
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Sender: nwu-sports-bounces at tssi.com
Date: Tue, 21 Feb 2012 22:35:42
To: 'Dennis W. Brandt'<tbng at comcast.net>; <nwu-sports at tssi.com>
Subject: Re: [NU Sports] Another hard fought loss

To Michigan's credit...

They played D
Their fans turned the last 7 minutes into their home game.

rsl

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Opinions expressed above are mine alone and are not those of any organizations of which I am a member.
+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
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Computer Applications & Support Associates Coach Roy's Random Thoughts - http://coachroy.org
--------------------- Also ---------------------- "Commissioner" Delaware American Legion Baseball Director Media Relations - Little League
  Senior League Softball World Series
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                   -- Pete Hamill, "Prohibition"
===========  Go Cats -  Beat 'em All  ===========



-----Original Message-----
From: nwu-sports-bounces at tssi.com [mailto:nwu-sports-bounces at tssi.com] On Behalf Of Dennis W. Brandt
Sent: Tuesday, February 21, 2012 10:39 PM
To: nwu-sports at tssi.com
Subject: [NU Sports] Another hard fought loss

We scrap like five Rockys, get good games from Hearn and Curletti, rebound better than usual, and still we lose.  We just don't know how to close out a win.  Our offense in the closing minutes and throughout the entire overtime was playground-based.
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From nolan at tssi.com  Tue Feb 21 22:23:16 2012
From: nolan at tssi.com (Mike Nolan)
Date: Tue, 21 Feb 2012 22:23:16 -0600 (CST)
Subject: [NU Sports] Another hard fought loss
In-Reply-To: <CD44546AB15A47C4A3A97648068B331C@dennismachine>
Message-ID: <20120222042316.6AD666537D@romaine.tssi.com>

It seemed like everything went wrong in the first two minutes of the
overtime that could have gone wrong, and once we got down by 9 there
was no way to mount a comeback.

And that's why Michigan is ranked and Northwestern is not.
--
Mike Nolan


From alan.abrahamson at gmail.com  Tue Feb 21 22:24:38 2012
From: alan.abrahamson at gmail.com (Alan Abrahamson)
Date: Tue, 21 Feb 2012 20:24:38 -0800
Subject: [NU Sports] Another hard fought loss
In-Reply-To: <20120222042316.6AD666537D@romaine.tssi.com>
References: <CD44546AB15A47C4A3A97648068B331C@dennismachine>
 <20120222042316.6AD666537D@romaine.tssi.com>
Message-ID: <CAN7senh+00t6X0ykkD0hj_cu4u11sk7NncTZV=Jvr=p5M6jgiw@mail.gmail.com>

Exactly.

On Tue, Feb 21, 2012 at 8:23 PM, Mike Nolan <nolan at tssi.com> wrote:

> It seemed like everything went wrong in the first two minutes of the
> overtime that could have gone wrong, and once we got down by 9 there
> was no way to mount a comeback.
>
> And that's why Michigan is ranked and Northwestern is not.
> --
> Mike Nolan
>
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From tkmaycock at yahoo.com  Tue Feb 21 22:30:50 2012
From: tkmaycock at yahoo.com (Tom Maycock)
Date: Wed, 22 Feb 2012 04:30:50 +0000
Subject: [NU Sports] Another hard fought loss
Message-ID: <1892108279-1329885049-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-1353821568-@b2.c4.bise6.blackberry>

Four words:
Crawford's injury. 
Unforced turnovers.

OK, a few more:

Missed 3s, real good Michigan D, Shurna gassed from chasing on D.

Ouch.

Tom

------Original Message------
From: Mike Nolan
Sender: nwu-sports-bounces at tssi.com
To: tbng at comcast.net
Cc: nwu-sports at tssi.com
Subject: Re: [NU Sports] Another hard fought loss
Sent: Feb 21, 2012 10:23 PM

It seemed like everything went wrong in the first two minutes of the
overtime that could have gone wrong, and once we got down by 9 there
was no way to mount a comeback.

And that's why Michigan is ranked and Northwestern is not.
--
Mike Nolan

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From thehaze at earthlink.net  Tue Feb 21 22:30:52 2012
From: thehaze at earthlink.net (Jim Bendat)
Date: Tue, 21 Feb 2012 20:30:52 -0800 (GMT-08:00)
Subject: [NU Sports] Wilbon on must-win
Message-ID: <15133564.1329885052283.JavaMail.root@wamui-hunyo.atl.sa.earthlink.net>

Wilbon wrote that it's too excruciating to watch our games. Tonight's game was indeed proof of that statement. 

-----Original Message-----
>From: Alan Abrahamson <alan.abrahamson at gmail.com>
>Sent: Feb 21, 2012 12:07 PM
>To: Northwestern Wildcats <nwu-sports at tssi.com>
>Subject: [NU Sports] Wilbon on must-win
>
>http://espn.go.com/chicago/story/_/id/7596489/northwestern-win-territory-quest-first-ncaa-tournament-bid
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From neonrye at aol.com  Tue Feb 21 22:31:48 2012
From: neonrye at aol.com (neonrye at aol.com)
Date: Wed, 22 Feb 2012 04:31:48 +0000
Subject: [NU Sports] Another hard fought loss
In-Reply-To: <CAN7senh+00t6X0ykkD0hj_cu4u11sk7NncTZV=Jvr=p5M6jgiw@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CD44546AB15A47C4A3A97648068B331C@dennismachine>
 <20120222042316.6AD666537D@romaine.tssi.com>
 <CAN7senh+00t6X0ykkD0hj_cu4u11sk7NncTZV=Jvr=p5M6jgiw@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <1958997496-1329885144-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-1302317951-@b5.c19.bise6.blackberry>

Beilin is a damn fine coach, too.
Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry

-----Original Message-----
From: Alan Abrahamson <alan.abrahamson at gmail.com>
Sender: nwu-sports-bounces at tssi.com
Date: Tue, 21 Feb 2012 20:24:38 
To: Mike Nolan<nolan at tssi.com>; Northwestern Wildcats<nwu-sports at tssi.com>
Subject: Re: [NU Sports] Another hard fought loss

Exactly.

On Tue, Feb 21, 2012 at 8:23 PM, Mike Nolan <nolan at tssi.com> wrote:

> It seemed like everything went wrong in the first two minutes of the
> overtime that could have gone wrong, and once we got down by 9 there
> was no way to mount a comeback.
>
> And that's why Michigan is ranked and Northwestern is not.
> --
> Mike Nolan
>
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From rstetson at capps-assoc.com  Tue Feb 21 22:39:18 2012
From: rstetson at capps-assoc.com (rstetson at capps-assoc.com)
Date: Tue, 21 Feb 2012 23:39:18 -0500
Subject: [NU Sports] Another hard fought loss
In-Reply-To: <1F89BB2CE7A5B94D969618E8CC769CC30147FE1FBD@XCHGBRS4.corp.espn.pvt>
References: <CD44546AB15A47C4A3A97648068B331C@dennismachine>
 <000a01ccf113$0e959b20$2bc0d160$@com>
 <1289800217-1329883514-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-887103442-@b5.c19.bise6.blackberry>
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Message-ID: <84d59f80-a748-4129-a9db-63e31b06a25d@blur>

And the Rabbi's closing line...

We'll have to wait ... somewhere else.

Sent from my Verizon Wireless Phone

-----Original message-----
From: "Weinbaum, Willie" <Willie.Weinbaum at espn.com>
To: "nwu-sports-bounces at tssi.com" <nwu-sports-bounces at tssi.com>,  
"nwu-sports at tssi.com" <nwu-sports at tssi.com>
Sent: Wed, Feb 22, 2012 04:13:03 GMT+00:00
Subject: Re: [NU Sports] Another hard fought loss

Also apt from Tevye (could apply to wins/losses/NU fandom): "It's no great  
tragedy to be poor, but it's no great honor, either."

-----Original Message-----
From: nwu-sports-bounces at tssi.com [mailto:nwu-sports-bounces at tssi.com] On  
Behalf Of neonrye at aol.com
Sent: Tuesday, February 21, 2012 11:05 PM
To: Roy S. Lamberton; nwu-sports-bounces at tssi.com; 'Dennis W. Brandt';  
nwu-sports at tssi.com
Subject: Re: [NU Sports] Another hard fought loss

To All:

It is so friggin' painful to be an NU fan.  But I still wouldn't have it any  
other way--even though my wife tells me I should have picked a school that  
wins.:-). Wow, this one really hurts.  But so did the Rose Bowl, Alamo,  
TicketCity, Outback,.....I just wanna see one bowl win and dance one time on  
Selction Sunday before I shuffle off this mortal coil, or whatever that  
expression is.  I feel like Tevya pleading to God in Fiddler, "Would it  
spoil some vast eternal plan?". If I was a dancin', bowlin' man???

Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry

-----Original Message-----
From: "Roy S. Lamberton" <rstetson at capps-assoc.com>
Sender: nwu-sports-bounces at tssi.com
Date: Tue, 21 Feb 2012 22:35:42
To: 'Dennis W. Brandt'<tbng at comcast.net>; <nwu-sports at tssi.com>
Subject: Re: [NU Sports] Another hard fought loss

To Michigan's credit...

They played D
Their fans turned the last 7 minutes into their home game.

rsl

+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
Opinions expressed above are mine alone and are not those of any  
organizations of which I am a member.
+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
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Computer Applications & Support Associates Coach Roy's Random Thoughts -  
http://coachroy.org
--------------------- Also ---------------------- "Commissioner" Delaware  
American Legion Baseball Director Media Relations - Little League
  Senior League Softball World Series
CTR2 USN (67-70) - CTRCS USNR (Ret) (64-67/70-95) Northwestern University -  
Speech 1974 - Chi Phi: Pi 1974, KD 1968 Publisher Emeritus: Purple Reign  
(Fox Sports) =================================================
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intelligence and energy of her citizens cannot cure - Dwight D. Eisenhower =  
 =  =  =  =  =  =  =  =  =  =  =  =  =  =  =  = If we become a country in  
which we say, 'Please, tell me how to live,' We're Doomed!"
                   -- Pete Hamill, "Prohibition"
===========  Go Cats -  Beat 'em All  ===========



-----Original Message-----
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Behalf Of Dennis W. Brandt
Sent: Tuesday, February 21, 2012 10:39 PM
To: nwu-sports at tssi.com
Subject: [NU Sports] Another hard fought loss

We scrap like five Rockys, get good games from Hearn and Curletti, rebound  
better than usual, and still we lose.  We just don't know how to close out a  
win.  Our offense in the closing minutes and throughout the entire overtime  
was playground-based.
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From eschoeman at sbcglobal.net  Tue Feb 21 22:43:20 2012
From: eschoeman at sbcglobal.net (Evans Schoeman)
Date: Tue, 21 Feb 2012 20:43:20 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [NU Sports] Another hard fought loss
In-Reply-To: <000a01ccf113$0e959b20$2bc0d160$@com>
References: <CD44546AB15A47C4A3A97648068B331C@dennismachine>
 <000a01ccf113$0e959b20$2bc0d160$@com>
Message-ID: <1329885800.52079.YahooMailRC@web83904.mail.sp1.yahoo.com>

Very true.? I couldn't believe the crowd erupting in "Air Ball" after Shurna's 
miss in OT.? I don't think that you'd hear that from the visitors in any other 
Big Ten arena.





________________________________
From: Roy S. Lamberton <rstetson at capps-assoc.com>
To: Dennis W. Brandt <tbng at comcast.net>; nwu-sports at tssi.com
Sent: Tue, February 21, 2012 9:35:42 PM
Subject: Re: [NU Sports] Another hard fought loss

To Michigan's credit...

They played D
Their fans turned the last 7 minutes into their home game.

rsl

+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
Opinions expressed above are mine alone and are not
those of any organizations of which I am a member.
+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
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Computer Applications & Support Associates
Coach Roy's Random Thoughts - http://coachroy.org
--------------------- Also ----------------------
"Commissioner" Delaware American Legion Baseball
Director Media Relations - Little League 
? Senior League Softball World Series
CTR2 USN (67-70) - CTRCS USNR (Ret) (64-67/70-95)
Northwestern University - Speech 1974 - 
Chi Phi: Pi 1974, KD 1968
Publisher Emeritus: Purple Reign (Fox Sports)
=================================================
There is nothing wrong with America that the faith, 
love of freedom, intelligence and energy of her citizens 
cannot cure - Dwight D. Eisenhower
=? =? =? =? =? =? =? =? =? =? =? =? =? =? =? =? =
If we become a country in which we say, 'Please, 
tell me how to live,' We're Doomed!"
? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? -- Pete Hamill, "Prohibition"
===========? Go Cats -? Beat 'em All? ===========



-----Original Message-----
From: nwu-sports-bounces at tssi.com [mailto:nwu-sports-bounces at tssi.com] On Behalf 
Of Dennis
W. Brandt
Sent: Tuesday, February 21, 2012 10:39 PM
To: nwu-sports at tssi.com
Subject: [NU Sports] Another hard fought loss

We scrap like five Rockys, get good games from Hearn and Curletti, rebound 
better than
usual, and still we lose.? We just don't know how to close out a win.? Our 
offense in the
closing minutes and throughout the entire overtime was playground-based.
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From rstetson at capps-assoc.com  Wed Feb 22 07:10:36 2012
From: rstetson at capps-assoc.com (Roy S. Lamberton)
Date: Wed, 22 Feb 2012 08:10:36 -0500
Subject: [NU Sports] Sowell: Mentions NU is today's article
Message-ID: <000001ccf163$5ebb47d0$1c31d770$@com>

It is fascinating to see people accusing others of things that they themselves are doing,
especially when their own sins are worse.

Academics love to say that businesses are not paying enough to people who work for them.
But where in business are there people who are paid absolutely nothing for strenuous work
that involves risks to their health?

http://townhall.com/columnists/thomassowell/2012/02/21/academic_hypocrisy

talking about the glut of historians out there...

rsl

+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
Opinions expressed above are mine alone and are not
those of any organizations of which I am a member.
+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
Roy S. Lamberton - Senior Associate.
Computer Applications & Support Associates
Coach Roy's Random Thoughts - http://coachroy.org
--------------------- Also ----------------------
"Commissioner" Delaware American Legion Baseball
Director Media Relations - Little League 
  Senior League Softball World Series
CTR2 USN (67-70) - CTRCS USNR (Ret) (64-67/70-95)
Northwestern University - Speech 1974 - 
Chi Phi: Pi 1974, KD 1968
Publisher Emeritus: Purple Reign (Fox Sports)
=================================================
There is nothing wrong with America that the faith, 
love of freedom, intelligence and energy of her citizens 
cannot cure - Dwight D. Eisenhower
=  =  =  =  =  =  =  =  =  =  =  =  =  =  =  =  =
If we become a country in which we say, 'Please, 
tell me how to live,' We're Doomed!"
                   -- Pete Hamill, "Prohibition"
===========  Go Cats -? Beat 'em All  ===========




From rstetson at capps-assoc.com  Wed Feb 22 08:16:50 2012
From: rstetson at capps-assoc.com (Roy S. Lamberton)
Date: Wed, 22 Feb 2012 09:16:50 -0500
Subject: [NU Sports] Sun Times' Columnist puts his finger on the Ill-noise
	"problem"
Message-ID: <000301ccf16c$9f47da30$ddd78e90$@com>

"So the question at the heart of Weber?s demise is this: Why is it so much more difficult
to get better players to overachieve? Maybe Weber is just more adept at getting more out
of less. But you also have to consider this possibility: Maybe good players are harder to
coach today. Maybe the increasing influence of AAU programs in the development of young
players ? and the decreasing influence of high school coaches ? instills a sense of
entitlement in talented players that makes it difficult for a coach like Bruce Weber to
get through to them."
Full Sun Times column: 
http://www.suntimes.com/sports/colleges/10784671-419/what-went-wrong-with-bruce-weber-at-i
llinois.html

And maybe NU's (Bill Carmody's) system of getting lower ranked prospects to (sometimes)
play at a very high level is why NU can overachieving one game, and fall flat the next? 

Or maybe it is just that NU has been losing for so long on the court...

Kelly Amonte-Hiller didn't have that baggage when she took came in to start the Women's
Lacrosse program. She had her personal tradition of winning (from Maryland) and never had
to face the "never been there" syndrome that always seem to lurk in the background at
Welsh-Ryan.

I know that once you lose that "winning" feeling, it can take a long time to get it back.
If you've never had a real winner, creating a winner is even harder.

rsl

+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
Opinions expressed above are mine alone and are not
those of any organizations of which I am a member.
+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
Roy S. Lamberton - Senior Associate.
Computer Applications & Support Associates
Coach Roy's Random Thoughts - http://coachroy.org
--------------------- Also ----------------------
"Commissioner" Delaware American Legion Baseball
Director Media Relations - Little League 
  Senior League Softball World Series
CTR2 USN (67-70) - CTRCS USNR (Ret) (64-67/70-95)
Northwestern University - Speech 1974 - 
Chi Phi: Pi 1974, KD 1968
Publisher Emeritus: Purple Reign (Fox Sports)
=================================================
There is nothing wrong with America that the faith, 
love of freedom, intelligence and energy of her citizens 
cannot cure - Dwight D. Eisenhower
=  =  =  =  =  =  =  =  =  =  =  =  =  =  =  =  =
If we become a country in which we say, 'Please, 
tell me how to live,' We're Doomed!"
                   -- Pete Hamill, "Prohibition"
===========  Go Cats -? Beat 'em All  ===========





From Jeff.Beamsley at covisint.com  Wed Feb 22 08:39:45 2012
From: Jeff.Beamsley at covisint.com (Beamsley, Jeff)
Date: Wed, 22 Feb 2012 06:39:45 -0800
Subject: [NU Sports] Sun Times' Columnist puts his finger on the
	Ill-noise"problem"
In-Reply-To: <000301ccf16c$9f47da30$ddd78e90$@com>
References: <000301ccf16c$9f47da30$ddd78e90$@com>
Message-ID: <7C115ECB-E849-48C2-9450-F5390D4AB728@covisint.com>

I think that we just got beat by a better team last night. 

UoM had every reason the let down after beating OSU, bit didn't.  

They just played better D than us. 

They forced us out of our game by aggressively defending the three and switching on all screens. 

They were able to get their three point shooters open looks  against our D and those kids made their shots. 

We had them in foul trouble early, but they fixed that in the second half. 

Sobo had another tough game, but you really can't blame this on him. All our kids gave max effort and just ran out of gas in OT. 

It was a very tough loss, because a win was there for the taking. Just turned out that UoM was the one who took it. 

Jeff 

Sent from my iPhone

On Feb 22, 2012, at 6:18 AM, "Roy S. Lamberton" <rstetson at capps-assoc.com> wrote:

> "So the question at the heart of Weber?s demise is this: Why is it so much more difficult
> to get better players to overachieve? Maybe Weber is just more adept at getting more out
> of less. But you also have to consider this possibility: Maybe good players are harder to
> coach today. Maybe the increasing influence of AAU programs in the development of young
> players ? and the decreasing influence of high school coaches ? instills a sense of
> entitlement in talented players that makes it difficult for a coach like Bruce Weber to
> get through to them."
> Full Sun Times column: 
> http://www.suntimes.com/sports/colleges/10784671-419/what-went-wrong-with-bruce-weber-at-i
> llinois.html
> 
> And maybe NU's (Bill Carmody's) system of getting lower ranked prospects to (sometimes)
> play at a very high level is why NU can overachieving one game, and fall flat the next? 
> 
> Or maybe it is just that NU has been losing for so long on the court...
> 
> Kelly Amonte-Hiller didn't have that baggage when she took came in to start the Women's
> Lacrosse program. She had her personal tradition of winning (from Maryland) and never had
> to face the "never been there" syndrome that always seem to lurk in the background at
> Welsh-Ryan.
> 
> I know that once you lose that "winning" feeling, it can take a long time to get it back.
> If you've never had a real winner, creating a winner is even harder.
> 
> rsl
> 
> +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
> Opinions expressed above are mine alone and are not
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> +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
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> Director Media Relations - Little League 
>  Senior League Softball World Series
> CTR2 USN (67-70) - CTRCS USNR (Ret) (64-67/70-95)
> Northwestern University - Speech 1974 - 
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> love of freedom, intelligence and energy of her citizens 
> cannot cure - Dwight D. Eisenhower
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> tell me how to live,' We're Doomed!"
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From hakirsch at aol.com  Wed Feb 22 08:49:17 2012
From: hakirsch at aol.com (hakirsch at aol.com)
Date: Wed, 22 Feb 2012 14:49:17 +0000
Subject: [NU Sports] Sun Times' Columnist puts his finger on
	the	Ill-noise"problem"
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Time to run the table. We have the capability to do that even with the blowout loss to the Bucks earlier

Harry
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-----Original Message-----
From: "Beamsley, Jeff" <Jeff.Beamsley at covisint.com>
Sender: nwu-sports-bounces at tssi.com
Date: Wed, 22 Feb 2012 06:39:45 
To: Roy S. Lamberton<rstetson at capps-assoc.com>
Cc: <nwu-sports at tssi.com>
Subject: Re: [NU Sports] Sun Times' Columnist puts his finger on the
	Ill-noise"problem"

I think that we just got beat by a better team last night. 

UoM had every reason the let down after beating OSU, bit didn't.  

They just played better D than us. 

They forced us out of our game by aggressively defending the three and switching on all screens. 

They were able to get their three point shooters open looks  against our D and those kids made their shots. 

We had them in foul trouble early, but they fixed that in the second half. 

Sobo had another tough game, but you really can't blame this on him. All our kids gave max effort and just ran out of gas in OT. 

It was a very tough loss, because a win was there for the taking. Just turned out that UoM was the one who took it. 

Jeff 

Sent from my iPhone

On Feb 22, 2012, at 6:18 AM, "Roy S. Lamberton" <rstetson at capps-assoc.com> wrote:

> "So the question at the heart of Weber?s demise is this: Why is it so much more difficult
> to get better players to overachieve? Maybe Weber is just more adept at getting more out
> of less. But you also have to consider this possibility: Maybe good players are harder to
> coach today. Maybe the increasing influence of AAU programs in the development of young
> players ? and the decreasing influence of high school coaches ? instills a sense of
> entitlement in talented players that makes it difficult for a coach like Bruce Weber to
> get through to them."
> Full Sun Times column: 
> http://www.suntimes.com/sports/colleges/10784671-419/what-went-wrong-with-bruce-weber-at-i
> llinois.html
> 
> And maybe NU's (Bill Carmody's) system of getting lower ranked prospects to (sometimes)
> play at a very high level is why NU can overachieving one game, and fall flat the next? 
> 
> Or maybe it is just that NU has been losing for so long on the court...
> 
> Kelly Amonte-Hiller didn't have that baggage when she took came in to start the Women's
> Lacrosse program. She had her personal tradition of winning (from Maryland) and never had
> to face the "never been there" syndrome that always seem to lurk in the background at
> Welsh-Ryan.
> 
> I know that once you lose that "winning" feeling, it can take a long time to get it back.
> If you've never had a real winner, creating a winner is even harder.
> 
> rsl
> 
> +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
> Opinions expressed above are mine alone and are not
> those of any organizations of which I am a member.
> +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
> Roy S. Lamberton - Senior Associate.
> Computer Applications & Support Associates
> Coach Roy's Random Thoughts - http://coachroy.org
> --------------------- Also ----------------------
> "Commissioner" Delaware American Legion Baseball
> Director Media Relations - Little League 
>  Senior League Softball World Series
> CTR2 USN (67-70) - CTRCS USNR (Ret) (64-67/70-95)
> Northwestern University - Speech 1974 - 
> Chi Phi: Pi 1974, KD 1968
> Publisher Emeritus: Purple Reign (Fox Sports)
> =================================================
> There is nothing wrong with America that the faith, 
> love of freedom, intelligence and energy of her citizens 
> cannot cure - Dwight D. Eisenhower
> =  =  =  =  =  =  =  =  =  =  =  =  =  =  =  =  =
> If we become a country in which we say, 'Please, 
> tell me how to live,' We're Doomed!"
>                   -- Pete Hamill, "Prohibition"
> ===========  Go Cats -  Beat 'em All  ===========
> 
> 
> 
> 
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From rstetson at capps-assoc.com  Wed Feb 22 08:54:12 2012
From: rstetson at capps-assoc.com (Roy S. Lamberton)
Date: Wed, 22 Feb 2012 09:54:12 -0500
Subject: [NU Sports] Another hard fought loss
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The UM fans were doing their droning sound every time Michigan brought the ball up - for a
minute I thought we were at MIch. instead of "our house." 

 

The Wild Side has to figure out how to counter stuff like that - they are in the right
place, at each end of the court, although I liked it better when they were arrayed behind
the visitor's bench, the way they are at most other Big 10 venues.

 

And when they tied it up at the end of the game, our fans just disappeared.

 

The team knows this is "our house" and we need to defend it, maybe the fans in the stands
need to learn the same lesson.

 

rsl

 

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those of any organizations of which I am a member.

+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

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Computer Applications & Support Associates

Coach Roy's Random Thoughts - http://coachroy.org

--------------------- Also ----------------------

"Commissioner" Delaware American Legion Baseball

Director Media Relations - Little League 

  Senior League Softball World Series

CTR2 USN (67-70) - CTRCS USNR (Ret) (64-67/70-95)

Northwestern University - Speech 1974 - 

Chi Phi: Pi 1974, KD 1968

Publisher Emeritus: Purple Reign (Fox Sports)

=================================================

There is nothing wrong with America that the faith, 

love of freedom, intelligence and energy of her citizens 

cannot cure - Dwight D. Eisenhower
<http://www.quotationspage.com/quotes/Dwight_D._Eisenhower/> 

=  =  =  =  =  =  =  =  =  =  =  =  =  =  =  =  =

If we become a country in which we say, 'Please, 

tell me how to live,' We're Doomed!"

                   -- Pete Hamill, "Prohibition"

===========  Go Cats -  Beat 'em All  ===========

 

 

From: Evans Schoeman [mailto:eschoeman at sbcglobal.net] 
Sent: Tuesday, February 21, 2012 11:43 PM
To: Roy S. Lamberton; Dennis W. Brandt; nwu-sports at tssi.com
Subject: Re: [NU Sports] Another hard fought loss

 

Very true.  I couldn't believe the crowd erupting in "Air Ball" after Shurna's miss in OT.
I don't think that you'd hear that from the visitors in any other Big Ten arena.

 

  _____  

From: Roy S. Lamberton <rstetson at capps-assoc.com>
To: Dennis W. Brandt <tbng at comcast.net>; nwu-sports at tssi.com
Sent: Tue, February 21, 2012 9:35:42 PM
Subject: Re: [NU Sports] Another hard fought loss

To Michigan's credit...

They played D
Their fans turned the last 7 minutes into their home game.

rsl

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those of any organizations of which I am a member.
+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
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Computer Applications & Support Associates
Coach Roy's Random Thoughts - http://coachroy.org
--------------------- Also ----------------------
"Commissioner" Delaware American Legion Baseball
Director Media Relations - Little League 
  Senior League Softball World Series
CTR2 USN (67-70) - CTRCS USNR (Ret) (64-67/70-95)
Northwestern University - Speech 1974 - 
Chi Phi: Pi 1974, KD 1968
Publisher Emeritus: Purple Reign (Fox Sports)
=================================================
There is nothing wrong with America that the faith, 
love of freedom, intelligence and energy of her citizens 
cannot cure - Dwight D. Eisenhower
=  =  =  =  =  =  =  =  =  =  =  =  =  =  =  =  =
If we become a country in which we say, 'Please, 
tell me how to live,' We're Doomed!"
                  -- Pete Hamill, "Prohibition"
===========  Go Cats -  Beat 'em All  ===========



-----Original Message-----
From: nwu-sports-bounces at tssi.com [mailto:nwu-sports-bounces at tssi.com] On Behalf Of Dennis
W. Brandt
Sent: Tuesday, February 21, 2012 10:39 PM
To: nwu-sports at tssi.com
Subject: [NU Sports] Another hard fought loss

We scrap like five Rockys, get good games from Hearn and Curletti, rebound better than
usual, and still we lose.  We just don't know how to close out a win.  Our offense in the
closing minutes and throughout the entire overtime was playground-based.
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From j-hodges at alumni.northwestern.edu  Wed Feb 22 09:05:29 2012
From: j-hodges at alumni.northwestern.edu (Jonathan Hodges)
Date: Wed, 22 Feb 2012 10:05:29 -0500
Subject: [NU Sports] Another hard fought loss
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I have to give some credit to the Northwestern fans for showing up and
making a lot of noise, which the BTN announcing crew (admittedly both NU
alums: Revsine & Morris) noted multiple times.  And I can't blame the NU
fans who were actually there for letting the Michigan fans in - instead
blame those NU fans who did not buy tickets (I am among that group,
although I like to think that I have an excuse living outside the area).

In any case it doesn't matter what the crowd does or doesn't do: the guys
on the court didn't get the job done.  And the lack of depth came through
in OT when Crawford wasn't able to go back out there (Mirkovic didn't suit
up); the reduction in height & athleticism gave Michigan the shots they
needed (though NU also blew chances in regulation).

What would be interesting to see is if the basketball team could develop
the attitude that the football team seems to have: where they seemingly
rise up and put on their best performances in the most hostile environments
(including when visiting fans invade their home stadium).

Jonathan

--
Jonathan Hodges
Contributor, HailToPurple
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Twitter: @hailtopurple
Email: j-hodges at alumni.northwestern.edu



On Wed, Feb 22, 2012 at 9:54 AM, Roy S. Lamberton
<rstetson at capps-assoc.com>wrote:

> The UM fans were doing their droning sound every time Michigan brought the
> ball up - for a
> minute I thought we were at MIch. instead of "our house."
>
>
>
> The Wild Side has to figure out how to counter stuff like that - they are
> in the right
> place, at each end of the court, although I liked it better when they were
> arrayed behind
> the visitor's bench, the way they are at most other Big 10 venues.
>
>
>
> And when they tied it up at the end of the game, our fans just disappeared.
>
>
>
> The team knows this is "our house" and we need to defend it, maybe the
> fans in the stands
> need to learn the same lesson.
>
>
>
> rsl
>
>
>
> +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
>
> Opinions expressed above are mine alone and are not
>
> those of any organizations of which I am a member.
>
> +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
>
> Roy S. Lamberton - Senior Associate.
>
> Computer Applications & Support Associates
>
> Coach Roy's Random Thoughts - http://coachroy.org
>
> --------------------- Also ----------------------
>
> "Commissioner" Delaware American Legion Baseball
>
> Director Media Relations - Little League
>
>  Senior League Softball World Series
>
> CTR2 USN (67-70) - CTRCS USNR (Ret) (64-67/70-95)
>
> Northwestern University - Speech 1974 -
>
> Chi Phi: Pi 1974, KD 1968
>
> Publisher Emeritus: Purple Reign (Fox Sports)
>
> =================================================
>
> There is nothing wrong with America that the faith,
>
> love of freedom, intelligence and energy of her citizens
>
> cannot cure - Dwight D. Eisenhower
> <http://www.quotationspage.com/quotes/Dwight_D._Eisenhower/>
>
> =  =  =  =  =  =  =  =  =  =  =  =  =  =  =  =  =
>
> If we become a country in which we say, 'Please,
>
> tell me how to live,' We're Doomed!"
>
>                   -- Pete Hamill, "Prohibition"
>
> ===========  Go Cats -  Beat 'em All  ===========
>
>
>
>
>
> From: Evans Schoeman [mailto:eschoeman at sbcglobal.net]
> Sent: Tuesday, February 21, 2012 11:43 PM
> To: Roy S. Lamberton; Dennis W. Brandt; nwu-sports at tssi.com
> Subject: Re: [NU Sports] Another hard fought loss
>
>
>
> Very true.  I couldn't believe the crowd erupting in "Air Ball" after
> Shurna's miss in OT.
> I don't think that you'd hear that from the visitors in any other Big Ten
> arena.
>
>
>
>  _____
>
> From: Roy S. Lamberton <rstetson at capps-assoc.com>
> To: Dennis W. Brandt <tbng at comcast.net>; nwu-sports at tssi.com
> Sent: Tue, February 21, 2012 9:35:42 PM
> Subject: Re: [NU Sports] Another hard fought loss
>
> To Michigan's credit...
>
> They played D
> Their fans turned the last 7 minutes into their home game.
>
> rsl
>
> +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
> Opinions expressed above are mine alone and are not
> those of any organizations of which I am a member.
> +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
> Roy S. Lamberton - Senior Associate.
> Computer Applications & Support Associates
> Coach Roy's Random Thoughts - http://coachroy.org
> --------------------- Also ----------------------
> "Commissioner" Delaware American Legion Baseball
> Director Media Relations - Little League
>  Senior League Softball World Series
> CTR2 USN (67-70) - CTRCS USNR (Ret) (64-67/70-95)
> Northwestern University - Speech 1974 -
> Chi Phi: Pi 1974, KD 1968
> Publisher Emeritus: Purple Reign (Fox Sports)
> =================================================
> There is nothing wrong with America that the faith,
> love of freedom, intelligence and energy of her citizens
> cannot cure - Dwight D. Eisenhower
> =  =  =  =  =  =  =  =  =  =  =  =  =  =  =  =  =
> If we become a country in which we say, 'Please,
> tell me how to live,' We're Doomed!"
>                  -- Pete Hamill, "Prohibition"
> ===========  Go Cats -  Beat 'em All  ===========
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: nwu-sports-bounces at tssi.com [mailto:nwu-sports-bounces at tssi.com] On
> Behalf Of Dennis
> W. Brandt
> Sent: Tuesday, February 21, 2012 10:39 PM
> To: nwu-sports at tssi.com
> Subject: [NU Sports] Another hard fought loss
>
> We scrap like five Rockys, get good games from Hearn and Curletti, rebound
> better than
> usual, and still we lose.  We just don't know how to close out a win.  Our
> offense in the
> closing minutes and throughout the entire overtime was playground-based.
> _______________________________________________
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From rstetson at capps-assoc.com  Wed Feb 22 09:33:54 2012
From: rstetson at capps-assoc.com (Roy S. Lamberton)
Date: Wed, 22 Feb 2012 10:33:54 -0500
Subject: [NU Sports] Another hard fought loss
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You make my point.

 

The fans were there until Michigan took control in the last minutes - then you could have
been at Michigan for all the noise we made.

 

When UM got out to a big lead early, the NU fans didn't stop, but if you replay the last 5
minutes of regulation, suddenly our fans were quiet.

 

At other venues, you wouldn't be able to think for all the racket the home fans make at
the end of a close game. The band did their part, but it just seemed like the air went out
of the building and the 3 threes in overtime killed it completely.

 

Maybe someone who was in the house has a better handle on what I heard on the TV?

 

rsl

 

 

 

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those of any organizations of which I am a member.

+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

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Computer Applications & Support Associates

Coach Roy's Random Thoughts - http://coachroy.org

--------------------- Also ----------------------

"Commissioner" Delaware American Legion Baseball

Director Media Relations - Little League 

  Senior League Softball World Series

CTR2 USN (67-70) - CTRCS USNR (Ret) (64-67/70-95)

Northwestern University - Speech 1974 - 

Chi Phi: Pi 1974, KD 1968

Publisher Emeritus: Purple Reign (Fox Sports)

=================================================

There is nothing wrong with America that the faith, 

love of freedom, intelligence and energy of her citizens 

cannot cure - Dwight D. Eisenhower
<http://www.quotationspage.com/quotes/Dwight_D._Eisenhower/> 

=  =  =  =  =  =  =  =  =  =  =  =  =  =  =  =  =

If we become a country in which we say, 'Please, 

tell me how to live,' We're Doomed!"

                   -- Pete Hamill, "Prohibition"

===========  Go Cats -  Beat 'em All  ===========

 

What would be interesting to see is if the basketball team could develop the attitude that
the football team seems to have: where they seemingly rise up and put on their best
performances in the most hostile environments (including when visiting fans invade their
home stadium).

Jonathan




 


From tkmaycock at yahoo.com  Wed Feb 22 10:04:54 2012
From: tkmaycock at yahoo.com (Tom Maycock)
Date: Wed, 22 Feb 2012 08:04:54 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [NU Sports] Another hard fought loss
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I was in row CCC, which is just a few rows from the very back (yes, after you run out of two-letter rows) on the same side as the player benches. There were a LOT of Michigan fans up there, and on the other side. And, as usual, some empty seats in the comfy purple seats across the way.?

The students, and NU crowd in general, were great all night, but there were probably at least as many Michigan fans there as NU fans. That's pretty rough.?And yeah, the air was certainly let out of the NU crowd early on in OT.?

For what it's worth, I thought it was a mistake to stick with the 1-3-1 going into OT, more based on intuition than anything else.?

Not that we were playing man D all that well, but Michigan was able to get open 3s against the zone all night, and I just had a bad feeling they were going to get a few to drop in OT if we played that D. And that's how it worked out.?

There were a dozen little moments in that game where one break could have made all the difference. We probably "lost" the game when we couldn't convert two chances to score at the end of regulation.?

Ultimately, though, I think the big problem was that Drew was never the same after he got hurt,?even when he was in there trying to play. Michigan played great D, especially in the second half, and we were missing the guy most able to rise up over a defender for a jump shot, our best threat to take the ball to the rim, and probably our best rebounder.?

Hope Drew is OK.

Tom

From cherron604 at aol.com  Wed Feb 22 18:07:15 2012
From: cherron604 at aol.com (chuck herron)
Date: Wed, 22 Feb 2012 19:07:15 -0500 (EST)
Subject: [NU Sports] Sun Times' Columnist puts his finger on
	the	Ill-noise"problem"
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 When will we stop making excuses for Bill Carmody ?  He is now in his twelth season as NU coach.  Maybe his 'system' of getting lower-ranked prospects to (sometimes) play at a very high level' is why they can overachieve one game, and fall flat the next ?  Or maybe NU has been losing for so long on the court ?  Gary Barnett took a program that had been losing forever, and in 5 seasons, took them to 2 Big Ten titles.  And Barnett was not getting the highest-ranked prospects, but he certainly got consistent overachievement from his players.

We have to face facts - Carmody has, over twelve seasons, not recruited sufficiently talented players, and has not gotten them to over-achieve on a consistent basis.
  

Chuck Herron
cherron604 at aol.com

 

 

-----Original Message-----
From: hakirsch <hakirsch at aol.com>
To: Beamsley, Jeff <Jeff.Beamsley at covisint.com>; nwu-sports-bounces <nwu-sports-bounces at tssi.com>; Roy S. Lamberton <rstetson at capps-assoc.com>
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Sent: Wed, Feb 22, 2012 8:50 am
Subject: Re: [NU Sports] Sun Times' Columnist puts his finger on the	Ill-noise"problem"


Time to run the table. We have the capability to do that even with the blowout 
loss to the Bucks earlier

Harry
Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry

-----Original Message-----
From: "Beamsley, Jeff" <Jeff.Beamsley at covisint.com>
Sender: nwu-sports-bounces at tssi.com
Date: Wed, 22 Feb 2012 06:39:45 
To: Roy S. Lamberton<rstetson at capps-assoc.com>
Cc: <nwu-sports at tssi.com>
Subject: Re: [NU Sports] Sun Times' Columnist puts his finger on the
	Ill-noise"problem"

I think that we just got beat by a better team last night. 

UoM had every reason the let down after beating OSU, bit didn't.  

They just played better D than us. 

They forced us out of our game by aggressively defending the three and switching 
on all screens. 

They were able to get their three point shooters open looks  against our D and 
those kids made their shots. 

We had them in foul trouble early, but they fixed that in the second half. 

Sobo had another tough game, but you really can't blame this on him. All our 
kids gave max effort and just ran out of gas in OT. 

It was a very tough loss, because a win was there for the taking. Just turned 
out that UoM was the one who took it. 

Jeff 

Sent from my iPhone

On Feb 22, 2012, at 6:18 AM, "Roy S. Lamberton" <rstetson at capps-assoc.com> 
wrote:

> "So the question at the heart of Weber?s demise is this: Why is it so much 
more difficult
> to get better players to overachieve? Maybe Weber is just more adept at 
getting more out
> of less. But you also have to consider this possibility: Maybe good players 
are harder to
> coach today. Maybe the increasing influence of AAU programs in the development 
of young
> players ? and the decreasing influence of high school coaches ? instills a 
sense of
> entitlement in talented players that makes it difficult for a coach like Bruce 
Weber to
> get through to them."
> Full Sun Times column: 
> http://www.suntimes.com/sports/colleges/10784671-419/what-went-wrong-with-bruce-weber-at-i
> llinois.html
> 
> And maybe NU's (Bill Carmody's) system of getting lower ranked prospects to 
(sometimes)
> play at a very high level is why NU can overachieving one game, and fall flat 
the next? 
> 
> Or maybe it is just that NU has been losing for so long on the court...
> 
> Kelly Amonte-Hiller didn't have that baggage when she took came in to start 
the Women's
> Lacrosse program. She had her personal tradition of winning (from Maryland) 
and never had
> to face the "never been there" syndrome that always seem to lurk in the 
background at
> Welsh-Ryan.
> 
> I know that once you lose that "winning" feeling, it can take a long time to 
get it back.
> If you've never had a real winner, creating a winner is even harder.
> 
> rsl
> 
> +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
> Opinions expressed above are mine alone and are not
> those of any organizations of which I am a member.
> +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
> Roy S. Lamberton - Senior Associate.
> Computer Applications & Support Associates
> Coach Roy's Random Thoughts - http://coachroy.org
> --------------------- Also ----------------------
> "Commissioner" Delaware American Legion Baseball
> Director Media Relations - Little League 
>  Senior League Softball World Series
> CTR2 USN (67-70) - CTRCS USNR (Ret) (64-67/70-95)
> Northwestern University - Speech 1974 - 
> Chi Phi: Pi 1974, KD 1968
> Publisher Emeritus: Purple Reign (Fox Sports)
> =================================================
> There is nothing wrong with America that the faith, 
> love of freedom, intelligence and energy of her citizens 
> cannot cure - Dwight D. Eisenhower
> =  =  =  =  =  =  =  =  =  =  =  =  =  =  =  =  =
> If we become a country in which we say, 'Please, 
> tell me how to live,' We're Doomed!"
>                   -- Pete Hamill, "Prohibition"
> ===========  Go Cats -  Beat 'em All  ===========
> 
> 
> 
> 
> _______________________________________________
> nwu-sports site list
> nwu-sports at tssi.com
> http://romaine.tssi.com/mailman/listinfo/nwu-sports
> 
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From thehaze at earthlink.net  Wed Feb 22 22:28:45 2012
From: thehaze at earthlink.net (Jim Bendat)
Date: Wed, 22 Feb 2012 20:28:45 -0800 (GMT-08:00)
Subject: [NU Sports] Adonis Smith leaving NU
Message-ID: <8170372.1329971326043.JavaMail.root@wamui-haziran.atl.sa.earthlink.net>

http://espn.go.com/chicago/ncf/story/_/id/7604016/adonis-smith-transferring-northwestern

Article doesn't say where he's going, but I guess he must feel that he's not going to get a lot of playing time with Mike Trumpy, Treyvon Green and the new freshman Malin Jones coming in. Hope things go well for Adonis. 

Jim B.


From artmiller1 at gmail.com  Thu Feb 23 11:58:41 2012
From: artmiller1 at gmail.com (Arthur Miller)
Date: Thu, 23 Feb 2012 11:58:41 -0600
Subject: [NU Sports] Sun Times' Columnist puts his finger on the
	Ill-noise"problem"
In-Reply-To: <8CEBFD63BED2941-1D44-499D7@webmail-d085.sysops.aol.com>
References: <000301ccf16c$9f47da30$ddd78e90$@com>
 <7C115ECB-E849-48C2-9450-F5390D4AB728@covisint.com>
 <229450002-1329922158-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-166273115-@b11.c7.bise6.blackberry>
 <8CEBFD63BED2941-1D44-499D7@webmail-d085.sysops.aol.com>
Message-ID: <CAK_3xy+zgo6+dN0FD0Eah7CD_P=6jE1F_rwG3iTBr4T8YSiwQg@mail.gmail.com>

Your conclusion is true, but the problem is that BC has a realistic shot at
making it 3 straight 20-win seasons and four straight NIT appearances.  How
does it look if we can him with the program showing clear improvement from
its historical level of performance?  The only thing worse than an
under-achieving program is an under-achieving program with unrealistic
expectations.
-Art Miller

On Wed, Feb 22, 2012 at 6:07 PM, chuck herron <cherron604 at aol.com> wrote:

>
>  When will we stop making excuses for Bill Carmody ?  He is now in his
> twelth season as NU coach.  Maybe his 'system' of getting lower-ranked
> prospects to (sometimes) play at a very high level' is why they can
> overachieve one game, and fall flat the next ?  Or maybe NU has been losing
> for so long on the court ?  Gary Barnett took a program that had been
> losing forever, and in 5 seasons, took them to 2 Big Ten titles.  And
> Barnett was not getting the highest-ranked prospects, but he certainly got
> consistent overachievement from his players.
>
> We have to face facts - Carmody has, over twelve seasons, not recruited
> sufficiently talented players, and has not gotten them to over-achieve on a
> consistent basis.
>
>
> Chuck Herron
> cherron604 at aol.com
>
>
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: hakirsch <hakirsch at aol.com>
> To: Beamsley, Jeff <Jeff.Beamsley at covisint.com>; nwu-sports-bounces <
> nwu-sports-bounces at tssi.com>; Roy S. Lamberton <rstetson at capps-assoc.com>
> Cc: nwu-sports <nwu-sports at tssi.com>
> Sent: Wed, Feb 22, 2012 8:50 am
> Subject: Re: [NU Sports] Sun Times' Columnist puts his finger on the
>  Ill-noise"problem"
>
>
> Time to run the table. We have the capability to do that even with the
> blowout
> loss to the Bucks earlier
>
> Harry
> Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: "Beamsley, Jeff" <Jeff.Beamsley at covisint.com>
> Sender: nwu-sports-bounces at tssi.com
> Date: Wed, 22 Feb 2012 06:39:45
> To: Roy S. Lamberton<rstetson at capps-assoc.com>
> Cc: <nwu-sports at tssi.com>
> Subject: Re: [NU Sports] Sun Times' Columnist puts his finger on the
>        Ill-noise"problem"
>
> I think that we just got beat by a better team last night.
>
> UoM had every reason the let down after beating OSU, bit didn't.
>
> They just played better D than us.
>
> They forced us out of our game by aggressively defending the three and
> switching
> on all screens.
>
> They were able to get their three point shooters open looks  against our D
> and
> those kids made their shots.
>
> We had them in foul trouble early, but they fixed that in the second half.
>
> Sobo had another tough game, but you really can't blame this on him. All
> our
> kids gave max effort and just ran out of gas in OT.
>
> It was a very tough loss, because a win was there for the taking. Just
> turned
> out that UoM was the one who took it.
>
> Jeff
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Feb 22, 2012, at 6:18 AM, "Roy S. Lamberton" <rstetson at capps-assoc.com>
> wrote:
>
> > "So the question at the heart of Weber?s demise is this: Why is it so
> much
> more difficult
> > to get better players to overachieve? Maybe Weber is just more adept at
> getting more out
> > of less. But you also have to consider this possibility: Maybe good
> players
> are harder to
> > coach today. Maybe the increasing influence of AAU programs in the
> development
> of young
> > players ? and the decreasing influence of high school coaches ? instills
> a
> sense of
> > entitlement in talented players that makes it difficult for a coach like
> Bruce
> Weber to
> > get through to them."
> > Full Sun Times column:
> >
> http://www.suntimes.com/sports/colleges/10784671-419/what-went-wrong-with-bruce-weber-at-i
> > llinois.html
> >
> > And maybe NU's (Bill Carmody's) system of getting lower ranked prospects
> to
> (sometimes)
> > play at a very high level is why NU can overachieving one game, and fall
> flat
> the next?
> >
> > Or maybe it is just that NU has been losing for so long on the court...
> >
> > Kelly Amonte-Hiller didn't have that baggage when she took came in to
> start
> the Women's
> > Lacrosse program. She had her personal tradition of winning (from
> Maryland)
> and never had
> > to face the "never been there" syndrome that always seem to lurk in the
> background at
> > Welsh-Ryan.
> >
> > I know that once you lose that "winning" feeling, it can take a long
> time to
> get it back.
> > If you've never had a real winner, creating a winner is even harder.
> >
> > rsl
> >
> > +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
> > Opinions expressed above are mine alone and are not
> > those of any organizations of which I am a member.
> > +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
> > Roy S. Lamberton - Senior Associate.
> > Computer Applications & Support Associates
> > Coach Roy's Random Thoughts - http://coachroy.org
> > --------------------- Also ----------------------
> > "Commissioner" Delaware American Legion Baseball
> > Director Media Relations - Little League
> >  Senior League Softball World Series
> > CTR2 USN (67-70) - CTRCS USNR (Ret) (64-67/70-95)
> > Northwestern University - Speech 1974 -
> > Chi Phi: Pi 1974, KD 1968
> > Publisher Emeritus: Purple Reign (Fox Sports)
> > =================================================
> > There is nothing wrong with America that the faith,
> > love of freedom, intelligence and energy of her citizens
> > cannot cure - Dwight D. Eisenhower
> > =  =  =  =  =  =  =  =  =  =  =  =  =  =  =  =  =
> > If we become a country in which we say, 'Please,
> > tell me how to live,' We're Doomed!"
> >                   -- Pete Hamill, "Prohibition"
> > ===========  Go Cats -  Beat 'em All  ===========
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > _______________________________________________
> > nwu-sports site list
> > nwu-sports at tssi.com
> > http://romaine.tssi.com/mailman/listinfo/nwu-sports
> >
> _______________________________________________
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>
>
>
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From neonrye at aol.com  Thu Feb 23 12:05:26 2012
From: neonrye at aol.com (neonrye at aol.com)
Date: Thu, 23 Feb 2012 13:05:26 -0500 (EST)
Subject: [NU Sports] Fitz in Twitter Controversy--Wrongly Accused of Racism
Message-ID: <8CEC06CDAD7F9E0-920-52DD2@webmail-m095.sysops.aol.com>

>From today's Trib:  http://www.chicagotribune.com/sports/college/ct-spt-0223-nu-foot-bits--20120223,0,1672790.story

From hakirsch at aol.com  Thu Feb 23 12:15:20 2012
From: hakirsch at aol.com (hakirsch at aol.com)
Date: Thu, 23 Feb 2012 18:15:20 +0000
Subject: [NU Sports] Fitz in Twitter Controversy--Wrongly Accused of
	Racism
In-Reply-To: <8CEC06CDAD7F9E0-920-52DD2@webmail-m095.sysops.aol.com>
References: <8CEC06CDAD7F9E0-920-52DD2@webmail-m095.sysops.aol.com>
Message-ID: <2064439732-1330020921-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-673814206-@b11.c7.bise6.blackberry>

I had picked up Fitz' supposed Twitter comment on Jerewmy Lin and had sent it out to our List.  Apparently,I like some others, was duped

Harry 
Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry

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Date: Thu, 23 Feb 2012 13:05:26 
To: <nwu-sports at tssi.com>
Subject: [NU Sports] Fitz in Twitter Controversy--Wrongly Accused of Racism

>From today's Trib:  http://www.chicagotribune.com/sports/college/ct-spt-0223-nu-foot-bits--20120223,0,1672790.story
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From pcw at warnerpatents.com  Thu Feb 23 12:45:39 2012
From: pcw at warnerpatents.com (Peter C. Warner)
Date: Thu, 23 Feb 2012 11:45:39 -0700
Subject: [NU Sports] Sun Times' Columnist puts his finger on
	the	Ill-noise"problem"
In-Reply-To: <CAK_3xy+zgo6+dN0FD0Eah7CD_P=6jE1F_rwG3iTBr4T8YSiwQg@mail.gmail.com>
References: <000301ccf16c$9f47da30$ddd78e90$@com>
 <7C115ECB-E849-48C2-9450-F5390D4AB728@covisint.com>
 <229450002-1329922158-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-166273115-@b11.c7.bise6.blackberry>
 <8CEBFD63BED2941-1D44-499D7@webmail-d085.sysops.aol.com>
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Message-ID: <002e01ccf25b$56b91e60$042b5b20$@warnerpatents.com>

You can Carmody because the 20-win seasons are based on a schedule of
pre-Big Ten season full of cupcakes.  After 12 seasons, his Big Ten record
(no season over .500?) cannot be viewed as a success.  
Like bowl appearances for a 6-6 team, four straight NIT appearances are made
possible by an ever-expanding NCAA field.
Chuck succinctly stated the problem and the solution:  Carmody cannot
recruit.  Fire him.
NU had reached a ceiling with Francis Peay. So, Peay's contract was not
renewed and NU hired an asst. coach from Colorado that, if nothing else, at
least gave NU hope that the future might get better.  
Give Hardy a chance or clean house entirely and hire someone else.  At least
give NU some hope.
-Peter Warner

-----Original Message-----
From: nwu-sports-bounces at tssi.com [mailto:nwu-sports-bounces at tssi.com] On
Behalf Of Arthur Miller
Sent: Thursday, February 23, 2012 10:59 AM
To: chuck herron; Northwestern Wildcats
Subject: Re: [NU Sports] Sun Times' Columnist puts his finger on the
Ill-noise"problem"

Your conclusion is true, but the problem is that BC has a realistic shot at
making it 3 straight 20-win seasons and four straight NIT appearances.  How
does it look if we can him with the program showing clear improvement from
its historical level of performance?  The only thing worse than an
under-achieving program is an under-achieving program with unrealistic
expectations.
-Art Miller

On Wed, Feb 22, 2012 at 6:07 PM, chuck herron <cherron604 at aol.com> wrote:

>
>  When will we stop making excuses for Bill Carmody ?  He is now in his 
> twelth season as NU coach.  Maybe his 'system' of getting lower-ranked 
> prospects to (sometimes) play at a very high level' is why they can 
> overachieve one game, and fall flat the next ?  Or maybe NU has been 
> losing for so long on the court ?  Gary Barnett took a program that 
> had been losing forever, and in 5 seasons, took them to 2 Big Ten 
> titles.  And Barnett was not getting the highest-ranked prospects, but 
> he certainly got consistent overachievement from his players.
>
> We have to face facts - Carmody has, over twelve seasons, not 
> recruited sufficiently talented players, and has not gotten them to 
> over-achieve on a consistent basis.
>
>
> Chuck Herron
> cherron604 at aol.com
>
>
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: hakirsch <hakirsch at aol.com>
> To: Beamsley, Jeff <Jeff.Beamsley at covisint.com>; nwu-sports-bounces < 
> nwu-sports-bounces at tssi.com>; Roy S. Lamberton 
> <rstetson at capps-assoc.com>
> Cc: nwu-sports <nwu-sports at tssi.com>
> Sent: Wed, Feb 22, 2012 8:50 am
> Subject: Re: [NU Sports] Sun Times' Columnist puts his finger on the  
> Ill-noise"problem"
>
>
> Time to run the table. We have the capability to do that even with the 
> blowout loss to the Bucks earlier
>
> Harry
> Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: "Beamsley, Jeff" <Jeff.Beamsley at covisint.com>
> Sender: nwu-sports-bounces at tssi.com
> Date: Wed, 22 Feb 2012 06:39:45
> To: Roy S. Lamberton<rstetson at capps-assoc.com>
> Cc: <nwu-sports at tssi.com>
> Subject: Re: [NU Sports] Sun Times' Columnist puts his finger on the
>        Ill-noise"problem"
>
> I think that we just got beat by a better team last night.
>
> UoM had every reason the let down after beating OSU, bit didn't.
>
> They just played better D than us.
>
> They forced us out of our game by aggressively defending the three and 
> switching on all screens.
>
> They were able to get their three point shooters open looks  against 
> our D and those kids made their shots.
>
> We had them in foul trouble early, but they fixed that in the second half.
>
> Sobo had another tough game, but you really can't blame this on him. 
> All our kids gave max effort and just ran out of gas in OT.
>
> It was a very tough loss, because a win was there for the taking. Just 
> turned out that UoM was the one who took it.
>
> Jeff
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Feb 22, 2012, at 6:18 AM, "Roy S. Lamberton" 
> <rstetson at capps-assoc.com>
> wrote:
>
> > "So the question at the heart of Weber's demise is this: Why is it 
> > so
> much
> more difficult
> > to get better players to overachieve? Maybe Weber is just more adept 
> > at
> getting more out
> > of less. But you also have to consider this possibility: Maybe good
> players
> are harder to
> > coach today. Maybe the increasing influence of AAU programs in the
> development
> of young
> > players - and the decreasing influence of high school coaches - 
> > instills
> a
> sense of
> > entitlement in talented players that makes it difficult for a coach 
> > like
> Bruce
> Weber to
> > get through to them."
> > Full Sun Times column:
> >
> http://www.suntimes.com/sports/colleges/10784671-419/what-went-wrong-w
> ith-bruce-weber-at-i
> > llinois.html
> >
> > And maybe NU's (Bill Carmody's) system of getting lower ranked 
> > prospects
> to
> (sometimes)
> > play at a very high level is why NU can overachieving one game, and 
> > fall
> flat
> the next?
> >
> > Or maybe it is just that NU has been losing for so long on the court...
> >
> > Kelly Amonte-Hiller didn't have that baggage when she took came in 
> > to
> start
> the Women's
> > Lacrosse program. She had her personal tradition of winning (from
> Maryland)
> and never had
> > to face the "never been there" syndrome that always seem to lurk in 
> > the
> background at
> > Welsh-Ryan.
> >
> > I know that once you lose that "winning" feeling, it can take a long
> time to
> get it back.
> > If you've never had a real winner, creating a winner is even harder.
> >
> > rsl
> >
> > +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
> > Opinions expressed above are mine alone and are not those of any 
> > organizations of which I am a member.
> > +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
> > Roy S. Lamberton - Senior Associate.
> > Computer Applications & Support Associates Coach Roy's Random 
> > Thoughts - http://coachroy.org
> > --------------------- Also ---------------------- "Commissioner" 
> > Delaware American Legion Baseball Director Media Relations - Little 
> > League  Senior League Softball World Series
> > CTR2 USN (67-70) - CTRCS USNR (Ret) (64-67/70-95) Northwestern 
> > University - Speech 1974 - Chi Phi: Pi 1974, KD 1968 Publisher 
> > Emeritus: Purple Reign (Fox Sports) 
> > =================================================
> > There is nothing wrong with America that the faith, love of freedom, 
> > intelligence and energy of her citizens cannot cure - Dwight D. 
> > Eisenhower =  =  =  =  =  =  =  =  =  =  =  =  =  =  =  =  = If we 
> > become a country in which we say, 'Please, tell me how to live,' 
> > We're Doomed!"
> >                   -- Pete Hamill, "Prohibition"
> > ===========  Go Cats -  Beat 'em All  ===========
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > _______________________________________________
> > nwu-sports site list
> > nwu-sports at tssi.com
> > http://romaine.tssi.com/mailman/listinfo/nwu-sports
> >
> _______________________________________________
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>
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From e-west at northwestern.edu  Thu Feb 23 13:19:21 2012
From: e-west at northwestern.edu (Eric C West)
Date: Thu, 23 Feb 2012 19:19:21 +0000
Subject: [NU Sports] Sun Times' Columnist puts his finger on	the
 Ill-noise"problem"
Message-ID: <945C0FA6304FAD4EBC3F417287FA98C134BBF3@evcspmbx4.ads.northwestern.edu>

And I continue to thank my lucky stars that nobody on this mailing list is our Athletic Director. At least in Steve Pederson's case (wrong as he was) he had the context of history superficially on his side, unlike any of the gloom-and-doom squad here. Seriously, there just are no words.

Eric West
e-west at northwestern.edu


-----Original Message-----
From: nwu-sports-bounces at tssi.com [mailto:nwu-sports-bounces at tssi.com] On Behalf Of Peter C. Warner
Sent: Thursday, February 23, 2012 12:46 PM
To: 'Arthur Miller'; 'chuck herron'; 'Northwestern Wildcats'
Subject: Re: [NU Sports] Sun Times' Columnist puts his finger on the Ill-noise"problem"

You can Carmody because the 20-win seasons are based on a schedule of pre-Big Ten season full of cupcakes.  After 12 seasons, his Big Ten record (no season over .500?) cannot be viewed as a success.  
Like bowl appearances for a 6-6 team, four straight NIT appearances are made possible by an ever-expanding NCAA field.
Chuck succinctly stated the problem and the solution:  Carmody cannot recruit.  Fire him.
NU had reached a ceiling with Francis Peay. So, Peay's contract was not renewed and NU hired an asst. coach from Colorado that, if nothing else, at least gave NU hope that the future might get better.  
Give Hardy a chance or clean house entirely and hire someone else.  At least give NU some hope.
-Peter Warner

-----Original Message-----
From: nwu-sports-bounces at tssi.com [mailto:nwu-sports-bounces at tssi.com] On Behalf Of Arthur Miller
Sent: Thursday, February 23, 2012 10:59 AM
To: chuck herron; Northwestern Wildcats
Subject: Re: [NU Sports] Sun Times' Columnist puts his finger on the Ill-noise"problem"

Your conclusion is true, but the problem is that BC has a realistic shot at making it 3 straight 20-win seasons and four straight NIT appearances.  How does it look if we can him with the program showing clear improvement from its historical level of performance?  The only thing worse than an under-achieving program is an under-achieving program with unrealistic expectations.
-Art Miller

On Wed, Feb 22, 2012 at 6:07 PM, chuck herron <cherron604 at aol.com> wrote:

>
>  When will we stop making excuses for Bill Carmody ?  He is now in his 
> twelth season as NU coach.  Maybe his 'system' of getting lower-ranked 
> prospects to (sometimes) play at a very high level' is why they can 
> overachieve one game, and fall flat the next ?  Or maybe NU has been 
> losing for so long on the court ?  Gary Barnett took a program that 
> had been losing forever, and in 5 seasons, took them to 2 Big Ten 
> titles.  And Barnett was not getting the highest-ranked prospects, but 
> he certainly got consistent overachievement from his players.
>
> We have to face facts - Carmody has, over twelve seasons, not 
> recruited sufficiently talented players, and has not gotten them to 
> over-achieve on a consistent basis.
>
>
> Chuck Herron
> cherron604 at aol.com
>
>
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: hakirsch <hakirsch at aol.com>
> To: Beamsley, Jeff <Jeff.Beamsley at covisint.com>; nwu-sports-bounces < 
> nwu-sports-bounces at tssi.com>; Roy S. Lamberton 
> <rstetson at capps-assoc.com>
> Cc: nwu-sports <nwu-sports at tssi.com>
> Sent: Wed, Feb 22, 2012 8:50 am
> Subject: Re: [NU Sports] Sun Times' Columnist puts his finger on the 
> Ill-noise"problem"
>
>
> Time to run the table. We have the capability to do that even with the 
> blowout loss to the Bucks earlier
>
> Harry
> Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: "Beamsley, Jeff" <Jeff.Beamsley at covisint.com>
> Sender: nwu-sports-bounces at tssi.com
> Date: Wed, 22 Feb 2012 06:39:45
> To: Roy S. Lamberton<rstetson at capps-assoc.com>
> Cc: <nwu-sports at tssi.com>
> Subject: Re: [NU Sports] Sun Times' Columnist puts his finger on the
>        Ill-noise"problem"
>
> I think that we just got beat by a better team last night.
>
> UoM had every reason the let down after beating OSU, bit didn't.
>
> They just played better D than us.
>
> They forced us out of our game by aggressively defending the three and 
> switching on all screens.
>
> They were able to get their three point shooters open looks  against 
> our D and those kids made their shots.
>
> We had them in foul trouble early, but they fixed that in the second half.
>
> Sobo had another tough game, but you really can't blame this on him. 
> All our kids gave max effort and just ran out of gas in OT.
>
> It was a very tough loss, because a win was there for the taking. Just 
> turned out that UoM was the one who took it.
>
> Jeff
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Feb 22, 2012, at 6:18 AM, "Roy S. Lamberton" 
> <rstetson at capps-assoc.com>
> wrote:
>
> > "So the question at the heart of Weber's demise is this: Why is it 
> > so
> much
> more difficult
> > to get better players to overachieve? Maybe Weber is just more adept 
> > at
> getting more out
> > of less. But you also have to consider this possibility: Maybe good
> players
> are harder to
> > coach today. Maybe the increasing influence of AAU programs in the
> development
> of young
> > players - and the decreasing influence of high school coaches - 
> > instills
> a
> sense of
> > entitlement in talented players that makes it difficult for a coach 
> > like
> Bruce
> Weber to
> > get through to them."
> > Full Sun Times column:
> >
> http://www.suntimes.com/sports/colleges/10784671-419/what-went-wrong-w
> ith-bruce-weber-at-i
> > llinois.html
> >
> > And maybe NU's (Bill Carmody's) system of getting lower ranked 
> > prospects
> to
> (sometimes)
> > play at a very high level is why NU can overachieving one game, and 
> > fall
> flat
> the next?
> >
> > Or maybe it is just that NU has been losing for so long on the court...
> >
> > Kelly Amonte-Hiller didn't have that baggage when she took came in 
> > to
> start
> the Women's
> > Lacrosse program. She had her personal tradition of winning (from
> Maryland)
> and never had
> > to face the "never been there" syndrome that always seem to lurk in 
> > the
> background at
> > Welsh-Ryan.
> >
> > I know that once you lose that "winning" feeling, it can take a long
> time to
> get it back.
> > If you've never had a real winner, creating a winner is even harder.
> >
> > rsl
> >
> > +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
> > Opinions expressed above are mine alone and are not those of any 
> > organizations of which I am a member.
> > +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
> > Roy S. Lamberton - Senior Associate.
> > Computer Applications & Support Associates Coach Roy's Random 
> > Thoughts - http://coachroy.org
> > --------------------- Also ---------------------- "Commissioner" 
> > Delaware American Legion Baseball Director Media Relations - Little 
> > League  Senior League Softball World Series
> > CTR2 USN (67-70) - CTRCS USNR (Ret) (64-67/70-95) Northwestern 
> > University - Speech 1974 - Chi Phi: Pi 1974, KD 1968 Publisher
> > Emeritus: Purple Reign (Fox Sports) 
> > =================================================
> > There is nothing wrong with America that the faith, love of freedom, 
> > intelligence and energy of her citizens cannot cure - Dwight D.
> > Eisenhower =  =  =  =  =  =  =  =  =  =  =  =  =  =  =  =  = If we 
> > become a country in which we say, 'Please, tell me how to live,'
> > We're Doomed!"
> >                   -- Pete Hamill, "Prohibition"
> > ===========  Go Cats -  Beat 'em All  ===========
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > _______________________________________________
> > nwu-sports site list
> > nwu-sports at tssi.com
> > http://romaine.tssi.com/mailman/listinfo/nwu-sports
> >
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From hakirsch at aol.com  Thu Feb 23 15:18:06 2012
From: hakirsch at aol.com (hakirsch at aol.com)
Date: Thu, 23 Feb 2012 21:18:06 +0000
Subject: [NU Sports] Sun Times' Columnist puts his finger
	on	the	Ill-noise"problem"
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You guys have convinced me that BC should go. My standards had been lowered because of how horrible we were during my college years in the mid to late 70's and beyond. But with a larger NCAA field and mostly easy NC games we look better with our record and NIT invites.  

Our academic competitors Stanford,Duke Vandy, WF ?,ND, all have put together very competitive teams over the years. Maybe not every year for them, but most of them and certainly they can claim much better success since 1968 when we last had a winning conference record  

And remember our back yard of Chicago is a basketball mecca. So even if academics nullifies some of them, we sure must have eligible talent that we are being   outrecruited against

Harry
   
Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry

-----Original Message-----
From: "Peter C. Warner" <pcw at warnerpatents.com>
Sender: nwu-sports-bounces at tssi.com
Date: Thu, 23 Feb 2012 11:45:39 
To: 'Arthur Miller'<artmiller1 at gmail.com>; 'chuck herron'<cherron604 at aol.com>; 'Northwestern Wildcats'<nwu-sports at tssi.com>
Subject: Re: [NU Sports] Sun Times' Columnist puts his finger on
	the	Ill-noise"problem"

You can Carmody because the 20-win seasons are based on a schedule of
pre-Big Ten season full of cupcakes.  After 12 seasons, his Big Ten record
(no season over .500?) cannot be viewed as a success.  
Like bowl appearances for a 6-6 team, four straight NIT appearances are made
possible by an ever-expanding NCAA field.
Chuck succinctly stated the problem and the solution:  Carmody cannot
recruit.  Fire him.
NU had reached a ceiling with Francis Peay. So, Peay's contract was not
renewed and NU hired an asst. coach from Colorado that, if nothing else, at
least gave NU hope that the future might get better.  
Give Hardy a chance or clean house entirely and hire someone else.  At least
give NU some hope.
-Peter Warner

-----Original Message-----
From: nwu-sports-bounces at tssi.com [mailto:nwu-sports-bounces at tssi.com] On
Behalf Of Arthur Miller
Sent: Thursday, February 23, 2012 10:59 AM
To: chuck herron; Northwestern Wildcats
Subject: Re: [NU Sports] Sun Times' Columnist puts his finger on the
Ill-noise"problem"

Your conclusion is true, but the problem is that BC has a realistic shot at
making it 3 straight 20-win seasons and four straight NIT appearances.  How
does it look if we can him with the program showing clear improvement from
its historical level of performance?  The only thing worse than an
under-achieving program is an under-achieving program with unrealistic
expectations.
-Art Miller

On Wed, Feb 22, 2012 at 6:07 PM, chuck herron <cherron604 at aol.com> wrote:

>
>  When will we stop making excuses for Bill Carmody ?  He is now in his 
> twelth season as NU coach.  Maybe his 'system' of getting lower-ranked 
> prospects to (sometimes) play at a very high level' is why they can 
> overachieve one game, and fall flat the next ?  Or maybe NU has been 
> losing for so long on the court ?  Gary Barnett took a program that 
> had been losing forever, and in 5 seasons, took them to 2 Big Ten 
> titles.  And Barnett was not getting the highest-ranked prospects, but 
> he certainly got consistent overachievement from his players.
>
> We have to face facts - Carmody has, over twelve seasons, not 
> recruited sufficiently talented players, and has not gotten them to 
> over-achieve on a consistent basis.
>
>
> Chuck Herron
> cherron604 at aol.com
>
>
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: hakirsch <hakirsch at aol.com>
> To: Beamsley, Jeff <Jeff.Beamsley at covisint.com>; nwu-sports-bounces < 
> nwu-sports-bounces at tssi.com>; Roy S. Lamberton 
> <rstetson at capps-assoc.com>
> Cc: nwu-sports <nwu-sports at tssi.com>
> Sent: Wed, Feb 22, 2012 8:50 am
> Subject: Re: [NU Sports] Sun Times' Columnist puts his finger on the  
> Ill-noise"problem"
>
>
> Time to run the table. We have the capability to do that even with the 
> blowout loss to the Bucks earlier
>
> Harry
> Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: "Beamsley, Jeff" <Jeff.Beamsley at covisint.com>
> Sender: nwu-sports-bounces at tssi.com
> Date: Wed, 22 Feb 2012 06:39:45
> To: Roy S. Lamberton<rstetson at capps-assoc.com>
> Cc: <nwu-sports at tssi.com>
> Subject: Re: [NU Sports] Sun Times' Columnist puts his finger on the
>        Ill-noise"problem"
>
> I think that we just got beat by a better team last night.
>
> UoM had every reason the let down after beating OSU, bit didn't.
>
> They just played better D than us.
>
> They forced us out of our game by aggressively defending the three and 
> switching on all screens.
>
> They were able to get their three point shooters open looks  against 
> our D and those kids made their shots.
>
> We had them in foul trouble early, but they fixed that in the second half.
>
> Sobo had another tough game, but you really can't blame this on him. 
> All our kids gave max effort and just ran out of gas in OT.
>
> It was a very tough loss, because a win was there for the taking. Just 
> turned out that UoM was the one who took it.
>
> Jeff
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Feb 22, 2012, at 6:18 AM, "Roy S. Lamberton" 
> <rstetson at capps-assoc.com>
> wrote:
>
> > "So the question at the heart of Weber's demise is this: Why is it 
> > so
> much
> more difficult
> > to get better players to overachieve? Maybe Weber is just more adept 
> > at
> getting more out
> > of less. But you also have to consider this possibility: Maybe good
> players
> are harder to
> > coach today. Maybe the increasing influence of AAU programs in the
> development
> of young
> > players - and the decreasing influence of high school coaches - 
> > instills
> a
> sense of
> > entitlement in talented players that makes it difficult for a coach 
> > like
> Bruce
> Weber to
> > get through to them."
> > Full Sun Times column:
> >
> http://www.suntimes.com/sports/colleges/10784671-419/what-went-wrong-w
> ith-bruce-weber-at-i
> > llinois.html
> >
> > And maybe NU's (Bill Carmody's) system of getting lower ranked 
> > prospects
> to
> (sometimes)
> > play at a very high level is why NU can overachieving one game, and 
> > fall
> flat
> the next?
> >
> > Or maybe it is just that NU has been losing for so long on the court...
> >
> > Kelly Amonte-Hiller didn't have that baggage when she took came in 
> > to
> start
> the Women's
> > Lacrosse program. She had her personal tradition of winning (from
> Maryland)
> and never had
> > to face the "never been there" syndrome that always seem to lurk in 
> > the
> background at
> > Welsh-Ryan.
> >
> > I know that once you lose that "winning" feeling, it can take a long
> time to
> get it back.
> > If you've never had a real winner, creating a winner is even harder.
> >
> > rsl
> >
> > +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
> > Opinions expressed above are mine alone and are not those of any 
> > organizations of which I am a member.
> > +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
> > Roy S. Lamberton - Senior Associate.
> > Computer Applications & Support Associates Coach Roy's Random 
> > Thoughts - http://coachroy.org
> > --------------------- Also ---------------------- "Commissioner" 
> > Delaware American Legion Baseball Director Media Relations - Little 
> > League  Senior League Softball World Series
> > CTR2 USN (67-70) - CTRCS USNR (Ret) (64-67/70-95) Northwestern 
> > University - Speech 1974 - Chi Phi: Pi 1974, KD 1968 Publisher 
> > Emeritus: Purple Reign (Fox Sports) 
> > =================================================
> > There is nothing wrong with America that the faith, love of freedom, 
> > intelligence and energy of her citizens cannot cure - Dwight D. 
> > Eisenhower =  =  =  =  =  =  =  =  =  =  =  =  =  =  =  =  = If we 
> > become a country in which we say, 'Please, tell me how to live,' 
> > We're Doomed!"
> >                   -- Pete Hamill, "Prohibition"
> > ===========  Go Cats -  Beat 'em All  ===========
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > _______________________________________________
> > nwu-sports site list
> > nwu-sports at tssi.com
> > http://romaine.tssi.com/mailman/listinfo/nwu-sports
> >
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From tbng at comcast.net  Thu Feb 23 15:58:26 2012
From: tbng at comcast.net (Dennis W. Brandt)
Date: Thu, 23 Feb 2012 16:58:26 -0500
Subject: [NU Sports] Sun Times' Columnist puts his finger
	onthe	Ill-noise"problem"
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> You can Carmody because the 20-win seasons are based on a schedule of
> pre-Big Ten season full of cupcakes.  After 12 seasons, his Big Ten record
> (no season over .500?) cannot be viewed as a success.

All true.


> Like bowl appearances for a 6-6 team, four straight NIT appearances are 
> made
> possible by an ever-expanding NCAA field.

Also true.

> Chuck succinctly stated the problem and the solution:  Carmody cannot 
> recruit.

Well, now, hold on there, son.  Don't say that Mr. Carmody can't flat-out 
recruit.  He has recruited the best basketball player in NU history, the 
best point guard in NU history and replaced him with someone just as good 
(maybe better eventually), and Drew Crawford.  Depth has always been an NU 
shortcoming, but it appeared that he had recruited some bench help this 
season except that men six and seven spent more time in the trainer's room 
than on the court, although number eight did get a chance to shine.  What he 
can't recruit - ready to laugh, Willie? - is good big men.  That's why we 
lost this year and last and the year before that and . . .  On the other 
hand, that doesn't make him unique in an NU basketball program that has had 
exactly one good center and one good power forward since my freshman year in 
1964.  Firing Carmody puts the program back to square one, and guys like 
Sobolewski might not stay around.  The program is getting there - with 
painful slowness, to be sure - but let's not mess with even the modicum of 
success we've enjoyed.

Carmody's basketball team shares characteristics with Fitzgerald's football 
team, such as in going to a low-level post-season game because there are too 
many of them and getting there based on an occasional marquee win and wins 
over patsies (with the almost obligatory loss to one patsy).  Both the 
basketball and football teams have some good players but not enough to win 
consistently, and they lack talent at some key positions like center on the 
court or defensive end on the gridiron.  Somehow, I have little confidence 
in our transfer-from-TCU center for next season, although he couldn't play 
worse than Mircovic did this season. 


From aaronsament at gmail.com  Thu Feb 23 15:47:33 2012
From: aaronsament at gmail.com (Aaron Ament)
Date: Thu, 23 Feb 2012 16:47:33 -0500
Subject: [NU Sports] Sun Times' Columnist puts his finger on	the
	Ill-noise"problem"
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All schools listed have significantly lower academic admissions standards for their basketball team.  Obviously it would be easier to recruit academically qualified recruits if we signed a couple all Americans that didn't have the SAT score standards our recruits are held to, as we all know too well has happened at at least 3 of the schools you mentioned...

With that said, we still have a very good shot at the tournament if we win Saturday...

On Feb 23, 2012, at 4:18 PM, hakirsch at aol.com wrote:

> You guys have convinced me that BC should go. My standards had been lowered because of how horrible we were during my college years in the mid to late 70's and beyond. But with a larger NCAA field and mostly easy NC games we look better with our record and NIT invites.  
> 
> Our academic competitors Stanford,Duke Vandy, WF ?,ND, all have put together very competitive teams over the years. Maybe not every year for them, but most of them and certainly they can claim much better success since 1968 when we last had a winning conference record  
> 
> And remember our back yard of Chicago is a basketball mecca. So even if academics nullifies some of them, we sure must have eligible talent that we are being   outrecruited against
> 
> Harry
> 
> Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: "Peter C. Warner" <pcw at warnerpatents.com>
> Sender: nwu-sports-bounces at tssi.com
> Date: Thu, 23 Feb 2012 11:45:39 
> To: 'Arthur Miller'<artmiller1 at gmail.com>; 'chuck herron'<cherron604 at aol.com>; 'Northwestern Wildcats'<nwu-sports at tssi.com>
> Subject: Re: [NU Sports] Sun Times' Columnist puts his finger on
>    the    Ill-noise"problem"
> 
> You can Carmody because the 20-win seasons are based on a schedule of
> pre-Big Ten season full of cupcakes.  After 12 seasons, his Big Ten record
> (no season over .500?) cannot be viewed as a success.  
> Like bowl appearances for a 6-6 team, four straight NIT appearances are made
> possible by an ever-expanding NCAA field.
> Chuck succinctly stated the problem and the solution:  Carmody cannot
> recruit.  Fire him.
> NU had reached a ceiling with Francis Peay. So, Peay's contract was not
> renewed and NU hired an asst. coach from Colorado that, if nothing else, at
> least gave NU hope that the future might get better.  
> Give Hardy a chance or clean house entirely and hire someone else.  At least
> give NU some hope.
> -Peter Warner
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: nwu-sports-bounces at tssi.com [mailto:nwu-sports-bounces at tssi.com] On
> Behalf Of Arthur Miller
> Sent: Thursday, February 23, 2012 10:59 AM
> To: chuck herron; Northwestern Wildcats
> Subject: Re: [NU Sports] Sun Times' Columnist puts his finger on the
> Ill-noise"problem"
> 
> Your conclusion is true, but the problem is that BC has a realistic shot at
> making it 3 straight 20-win seasons and four straight NIT appearances.  How
> does it look if we can him with the program showing clear improvement from
> its historical level of performance?  The only thing worse than an
> under-achieving program is an under-achieving program with unrealistic
> expectations.
> -Art Miller
> 
> On Wed, Feb 22, 2012 at 6:07 PM, chuck herron <cherron604 at aol.com> wrote:
> 
>> 
>> When will we stop making excuses for Bill Carmody ?  He is now in his 
>> twelth season as NU coach.  Maybe his 'system' of getting lower-ranked 
>> prospects to (sometimes) play at a very high level' is why they can 
>> overachieve one game, and fall flat the next ?  Or maybe NU has been 
>> losing for so long on the court ?  Gary Barnett took a program that 
>> had been losing forever, and in 5 seasons, took them to 2 Big Ten 
>> titles.  And Barnett was not getting the highest-ranked prospects, but 
>> he certainly got consistent overachievement from his players.
>> 
>> We have to face facts - Carmody has, over twelve seasons, not 
>> recruited sufficiently talented players, and has not gotten them to 
>> over-achieve on a consistent basis.
>> 
>> 
>> Chuck Herron
>> cherron604 at aol.com
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: hakirsch <hakirsch at aol.com>
>> To: Beamsley, Jeff <Jeff.Beamsley at covisint.com>; nwu-sports-bounces < 
>> nwu-sports-bounces at tssi.com>; Roy S. Lamberton 
>> <rstetson at capps-assoc.com>
>> Cc: nwu-sports <nwu-sports at tssi.com>
>> Sent: Wed, Feb 22, 2012 8:50 am
>> Subject: Re: [NU Sports] Sun Times' Columnist puts his finger on the  
>> Ill-noise"problem"
>> 
>> 
>> Time to run the table. We have the capability to do that even with the 
>> blowout loss to the Bucks earlier
>> 
>> Harry
>> Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry
>> 
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: "Beamsley, Jeff" <Jeff.Beamsley at covisint.com>
>> Sender: nwu-sports-bounces at tssi.com
>> Date: Wed, 22 Feb 2012 06:39:45
>> To: Roy S. Lamberton<rstetson at capps-assoc.com>
>> Cc: <nwu-sports at tssi.com>
>> Subject: Re: [NU Sports] Sun Times' Columnist puts his finger on the
>>       Ill-noise"problem"
>> 
>> I think that we just got beat by a better team last night.
>> 
>> UoM had every reason the let down after beating OSU, bit didn't.
>> 
>> They just played better D than us.
>> 
>> They forced us out of our game by aggressively defending the three and 
>> switching on all screens.
>> 
>> They were able to get their three point shooters open looks  against 
>> our D and those kids made their shots.
>> 
>> We had them in foul trouble early, but they fixed that in the second half.
>> 
>> Sobo had another tough game, but you really can't blame this on him. 
>> All our kids gave max effort and just ran out of gas in OT.
>> 
>> It was a very tough loss, because a win was there for the taking. Just 
>> turned out that UoM was the one who took it.
>> 
>> Jeff
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>> On Feb 22, 2012, at 6:18 AM, "Roy S. Lamberton" 
>> <rstetson at capps-assoc.com>
>> wrote:
>> 
>>> "So the question at the heart of Weber's demise is this: Why is it 
>>> so
>> much
>> more difficult
>>> to get better players to overachieve? Maybe Weber is just more adept 
>>> at
>> getting more out
>>> of less. But you also have to consider this possibility: Maybe good
>> players
>> are harder to
>>> coach today. Maybe the increasing influence of AAU programs in the
>> development
>> of young
>>> players - and the decreasing influence of high school coaches - 
>>> instills
>> a
>> sense of
>>> entitlement in talented players that makes it difficult for a coach 
>>> like
>> Bruce
>> Weber to
>>> get through to them."
>>> Full Sun Times column:
>>> 
>> http://www.suntimes.com/sports/colleges/10784671-419/what-went-wrong-w
>> ith-bruce-weber-at-i
>>> llinois.html
>>> 
>>> And maybe NU's (Bill Carmody's) system of getting lower ranked 
>>> prospects
>> to
>> (sometimes)
>>> play at a very high level is why NU can overachieving one game, and 
>>> fall
>> flat
>> the next?
>>> 
>>> Or maybe it is just that NU has been losing for so long on the court...
>>> 
>>> Kelly Amonte-Hiller didn't have that baggage when she took came in 
>>> to
>> start
>> the Women's
>>> Lacrosse program. She had her personal tradition of winning (from
>> Maryland)
>> and never had
>>> to face the "never been there" syndrome that always seem to lurk in 
>>> the
>> background at
>>> Welsh-Ryan.
>>> 
>>> I know that once you lose that "winning" feeling, it can take a long
>> time to
>> get it back.
>>> If you've never had a real winner, creating a winner is even harder.
>>> 
>>> rsl
>>> 
>>> +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
>>> Opinions expressed above are mine alone and are not those of any 
>>> organizations of which I am a member.
>>> +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
>>> Roy S. Lamberton - Senior Associate.
>>> Computer Applications & Support Associates Coach Roy's Random 
>>> Thoughts - http://coachroy.org
>>> --------------------- Also ---------------------- "Commissioner" 
>>> Delaware American Legion Baseball Director Media Relations - Little 
>>> League  Senior League Softball World Series
>>> CTR2 USN (67-70) - CTRCS USNR (Ret) (64-67/70-95) Northwestern 
>>> University - Speech 1974 - Chi Phi: Pi 1974, KD 1968 Publisher 
>>> Emeritus: Purple Reign (Fox Sports) 
>>> =================================================
>>> There is nothing wrong with America that the faith, love of freedom, 
>>> intelligence and energy of her citizens cannot cure - Dwight D. 
>>> Eisenhower =  =  =  =  =  =  =  =  =  =  =  =  =  =  =  =  = If we 
>>> become a country in which we say, 'Please, tell me how to live,' 
>>> We're Doomed!"
>>>                  -- Pete Hamill, "Prohibition"
>>> ===========  Go Cats -  Beat 'em All  ===========
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> _______________________________________________
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>>> nwu-sports at tssi.com
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>>> 
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From hakirsch at aol.com  Thu Feb 23 16:09:07 2012
From: hakirsch at aol.com (hakirsch at aol.com)
Date: Thu, 23 Feb 2012 22:09:07 +0000
Subject: [NU Sports] Sun Times' Columnist puts his finger on	the
	Ill-noise"problem"
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Which 3 schools and what is the SAT standard differential that you claim is" significant" ?

Harry
Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry

-----Original Message-----
From: Aaron Ament <aaronsament at gmail.com>
Date: Thu, 23 Feb 2012 16:47:33 
To: hakirsch at aol.com<hakirsch at aol.com>
Cc: Peter C. Warner<pcw at warnerpatents.com>; nwu-sports-bounces at tssi.com<nwu-sports-bounces at tssi.com>; Arthur Miller<artmiller1 at gmail.com>; chuck herron<cherron604 at aol.com>; Northwestern Wildcats<nwu-sports at tssi.com>
Subject: Re: [NU Sports] Sun Times' Columnist puts his finger on	the Ill-noise"problem"

All schools listed have significantly lower academic admissions standards for their basketball team.  Obviously it would be easier to recruit academically qualified recruits if we signed a couple all Americans that didn't have the SAT score standards our recruits are held to, as we all know too well has happened at at least 3 of the schools you mentioned...

With that said, we still have a very good shot at the tournament if we win Saturday...

On Feb 23, 2012, at 4:18 PM, hakirsch at aol.com wrote:

> You guys have convinced me that BC should go. My standards had been lowered because of how horrible we were during my college years in the mid to late 70's and beyond. But with a larger NCAA field and mostly easy NC games we look better with our record and NIT invites.  
> 
> Our academic competitors Stanford,Duke Vandy, WF ?,ND, all have put together very competitive teams over the years. Maybe not every year for them, but most of them and certainly they can claim much better success since 1968 when we last had a winning conference record  
> 
> And remember our back yard of Chicago is a basketball mecca. So even if academics nullifies some of them, we sure must have eligible talent that we are being   outrecruited against
> 
> Harry
> 
> Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: "Peter C. Warner" <pcw at warnerpatents.com>
> Sender: nwu-sports-bounces at tssi.com
> Date: Thu, 23 Feb 2012 11:45:39 
> To: 'Arthur Miller'<artmiller1 at gmail.com>; 'chuck herron'<cherron604 at aol.com>; 'Northwestern Wildcats'<nwu-sports at tssi.com>
> Subject: Re: [NU Sports] Sun Times' Columnist puts his finger on
>    the    Ill-noise"problem"
> 
> You can Carmody because the 20-win seasons are based on a schedule of
> pre-Big Ten season full of cupcakes.  After 12 seasons, his Big Ten record
> (no season over .500?) cannot be viewed as a success.  
> Like bowl appearances for a 6-6 team, four straight NIT appearances are made
> possible by an ever-expanding NCAA field.
> Chuck succinctly stated the problem and the solution:  Carmody cannot
> recruit.  Fire him.
> NU had reached a ceiling with Francis Peay. So, Peay's contract was not
> renewed and NU hired an asst. coach from Colorado that, if nothing else, at
> least gave NU hope that the future might get better.  
> Give Hardy a chance or clean house entirely and hire someone else.  At least
> give NU some hope.
> -Peter Warner
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: nwu-sports-bounces at tssi.com [mailto:nwu-sports-bounces at tssi.com] On
> Behalf Of Arthur Miller
> Sent: Thursday, February 23, 2012 10:59 AM
> To: chuck herron; Northwestern Wildcats
> Subject: Re: [NU Sports] Sun Times' Columnist puts his finger on the
> Ill-noise"problem"
> 
> Your conclusion is true, but the problem is that BC has a realistic shot at
> making it 3 straight 20-win seasons and four straight NIT appearances.  How
> does it look if we can him with the program showing clear improvement from
> its historical level of performance?  The only thing worse than an
> under-achieving program is an under-achieving program with unrealistic
> expectations.
> -Art Miller
> 
> On Wed, Feb 22, 2012 at 6:07 PM, chuck herron <cherron604 at aol.com> wrote:
> 
>> 
>> When will we stop making excuses for Bill Carmody ?  He is now in his 
>> twelth season as NU coach.  Maybe his 'system' of getting lower-ranked 
>> prospects to (sometimes) play at a very high level' is why they can 
>> overachieve one game, and fall flat the next ?  Or maybe NU has been 
>> losing for so long on the court ?  Gary Barnett took a program that 
>> had been losing forever, and in 5 seasons, took them to 2 Big Ten 
>> titles.  And Barnett was not getting the highest-ranked prospects, but 
>> he certainly got consistent overachievement from his players.
>> 
>> We have to face facts - Carmody has, over twelve seasons, not 
>> recruited sufficiently talented players, and has not gotten them to 
>> over-achieve on a consistent basis.
>> 
>> 
>> Chuck Herron
>> cherron604 at aol.com
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: hakirsch <hakirsch at aol.com>
>> To: Beamsley, Jeff <Jeff.Beamsley at covisint.com>; nwu-sports-bounces < 
>> nwu-sports-bounces at tssi.com>; Roy S. Lamberton 
>> <rstetson at capps-assoc.com>
>> Cc: nwu-sports <nwu-sports at tssi.com>
>> Sent: Wed, Feb 22, 2012 8:50 am
>> Subject: Re: [NU Sports] Sun Times' Columnist puts his finger on the  
>> Ill-noise"problem"
>> 
>> 
>> Time to run the table. We have the capability to do that even with the 
>> blowout loss to the Bucks earlier
>> 
>> Harry
>> Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry
>> 
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: "Beamsley, Jeff" <Jeff.Beamsley at covisint.com>
>> Sender: nwu-sports-bounces at tssi.com
>> Date: Wed, 22 Feb 2012 06:39:45
>> To: Roy S. Lamberton<rstetson at capps-assoc.com>
>> Cc: <nwu-sports at tssi.com>
>> Subject: Re: [NU Sports] Sun Times' Columnist puts his finger on the
>>       Ill-noise"problem"
>> 
>> I think that we just got beat by a better team last night.
>> 
>> UoM had every reason the let down after beating OSU, bit didn't.
>> 
>> They just played better D than us.
>> 
>> They forced us out of our game by aggressively defending the three and 
>> switching on all screens.
>> 
>> They were able to get their three point shooters open looks  against 
>> our D and those kids made their shots.
>> 
>> We had them in foul trouble early, but they fixed that in the second half.
>> 
>> Sobo had another tough game, but you really can't blame this on him. 
>> All our kids gave max effort and just ran out of gas in OT.
>> 
>> It was a very tough loss, because a win was there for the taking. Just 
>> turned out that UoM was the one who took it.
>> 
>> Jeff
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>> On Feb 22, 2012, at 6:18 AM, "Roy S. Lamberton" 
>> <rstetson at capps-assoc.com>
>> wrote:
>> 
>>> "So the question at the heart of Weber's demise is this: Why is it 
>>> so
>> much
>> more difficult
>>> to get better players to overachieve? Maybe Weber is just more adept 
>>> at
>> getting more out
>>> of less. But you also have to consider this possibility: Maybe good
>> players
>> are harder to
>>> coach today. Maybe the increasing influence of AAU programs in the
>> development
>> of young
>>> players - and the decreasing influence of high school coaches - 
>>> instills
>> a
>> sense of
>>> entitlement in talented players that makes it difficult for a coach 
>>> like
>> Bruce
>> Weber to
>>> get through to them."
>>> Full Sun Times column:
>>> 
>> http://www.suntimes.com/sports/colleges/10784671-419/what-went-wrong-w
>> ith-bruce-weber-at-i
>>> llinois.html
>>> 
>>> And maybe NU's (Bill Carmody's) system of getting lower ranked 
>>> prospects
>> to
>> (sometimes)
>>> play at a very high level is why NU can overachieving one game, and 
>>> fall
>> flat
>> the next?
>>> 
>>> Or maybe it is just that NU has been losing for so long on the court...
>>> 
>>> Kelly Amonte-Hiller didn't have that baggage when she took came in 
>>> to
>> start
>> the Women's
>>> Lacrosse program. She had her personal tradition of winning (from
>> Maryland)
>> and never had
>>> to face the "never been there" syndrome that always seem to lurk in 
>>> the
>> background at
>>> Welsh-Ryan.
>>> 
>>> I know that once you lose that "winning" feeling, it can take a long
>> time to
>> get it back.
>>> If you've never had a real winner, creating a winner is even harder.
>>> 
>>> rsl
>>> 
>>> +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
>>> Opinions expressed above are mine alone and are not those of any 
>>> organizations of which I am a member.
>>> +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
>>> Roy S. Lamberton - Senior Associate.
>>> Computer Applications & Support Associates Coach Roy's Random 
>>> Thoughts - http://coachroy.org
>>> --------------------- Also ---------------------- "Commissioner" 
>>> Delaware American Legion Baseball Director Media Relations - Little 
>>> League  Senior League Softball World Series
>>> CTR2 USN (67-70) - CTRCS USNR (Ret) (64-67/70-95) Northwestern 
>>> University - Speech 1974 - Chi Phi: Pi 1974, KD 1968 Publisher 
>>> Emeritus: Purple Reign (Fox Sports) 
>>> =================================================
>>> There is nothing wrong with America that the faith, love of freedom, 
>>> intelligence and energy of her citizens cannot cure - Dwight D. 
>>> Eisenhower =  =  =  =  =  =  =  =  =  =  =  =  =  =  =  =  = If we 
>>> become a country in which we say, 'Please, tell me how to live,' 
>>> We're Doomed!"
>>>                  -- Pete Hamill, "Prohibition"
>>> ===========  Go Cats -  Beat 'em All  ===========
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> nwu-sports site list
>>> nwu-sports at tssi.com
>>> http://romaine.tssi.com/mailman/listinfo/nwu-sports
>>> 
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>> 
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From eschoeman at sbcglobal.net  Thu Feb 23 16:14:03 2012
From: eschoeman at sbcglobal.net (Evans Schoeman)
Date: Thu, 23 Feb 2012 14:14:03 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [NU Sports] Sun Times' Columnist puts his finger on the
	Ill-noise"problem"
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One recruit that I've wondered about is Aaron Craft of tOSU.? He'll likely be 
first or second team All Big Ten and is reportedly a top-notch student (HS class 
valedictorian, National Honor Society, etc).

Sometimes you miss the gems, but he would have been quite a catch for NU 
(Sobolewski notwithstanding).





________________________________
From: "hakirsch at aol.com" <hakirsch at aol.com>
To: Peter C. Warner <pcw at warnerpatents.com>; nwu-sports-bounces at tssi.com; Arthur 
Miller <artmiller1 at gmail.com>; chuck herron <cherron604 at aol.com>; Northwestern 
Wildcats <nwu-sports at tssi.com>
Sent: Thu, February 23, 2012 3:18:06 PM
Subject: Re: [NU Sports] Sun Times' Columnist puts his finger on the 
Ill-noise"problem"

You guys have convinced me that BC should go. My standards had been lowered 
because of how horrible we were during my college years in the mid to late 70's 
and beyond. But with a larger NCAA field and mostly easy NC games we look better 
with our record and NIT invites.? 


Our academic competitors Stanford,Duke Vandy, WF ?,ND, all have put together 
very competitive teams over the years. Maybe not every year for them, but most 
of them and certainly they can claim much better success since 1968 when we last 
had a winning conference record? 


And remember our back yard of Chicago is a basketball mecca. So even if 
academics nullifies some of them, we sure must have eligible talent that we are 
being? outrecruited against

Harry
? 
Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry

-----Original Message-----
From: "Peter C. Warner" <pcw at warnerpatents.com>
Sender: nwu-sports-bounces at tssi.com
Date: Thu, 23 Feb 2012 11:45:39 
To: 'Arthur Miller'<artmiller1 at gmail.com>; 'chuck herron'<cherron604 at aol.com>; 
'Northwestern Wildcats'<nwu-sports at tssi.com>
Subject: Re: [NU Sports] Sun Times' Columnist puts his finger on
??? the??? Ill-noise"problem"

You can Carmody because the 20-win seasons are based on a schedule of
pre-Big Ten season full of cupcakes.? After 12 seasons, his Big Ten record
(no season over .500?) cannot be viewed as a success.? 
Like bowl appearances for a 6-6 team, four straight NIT appearances are made
possible by an ever-expanding NCAA field.
Chuck succinctly stated the problem and the solution:? Carmody cannot
recruit.? Fire him.
NU had reached a ceiling with Francis Peay. So, Peay's contract was not
renewed and NU hired an asst. coach from Colorado that, if nothing else, at
least gave NU hope that the future might get better.? 
Give Hardy a chance or clean house entirely and hire someone else.? At least
give NU some hope.
-Peter Warner

-----Original Message-----
From: nwu-sports-bounces at tssi.com [mailto:nwu-sports-bounces at tssi.com] On
Behalf Of Arthur Miller
Sent: Thursday, February 23, 2012 10:59 AM
To: chuck herron; Northwestern Wildcats
Subject: Re: [NU Sports] Sun Times' Columnist puts his finger on the
Ill-noise"problem"

Your conclusion is true, but the problem is that BC has a realistic shot at
making it 3 straight 20-win seasons and four straight NIT appearances.? How
does it look if we can him with the program showing clear improvement from
its historical level of performance?? The only thing worse than an
under-achieving program is an under-achieving program with unrealistic
expectations.
-Art Miller

On Wed, Feb 22, 2012 at 6:07 PM, chuck herron <cherron604 at aol.com> wrote:

>
>? When will we stop making excuses for Bill Carmody ?? He is now in his 
> twelth season as NU coach.? Maybe his 'system' of getting lower-ranked 
> prospects to (sometimes) play at a very high level' is why they can 
> overachieve one game, and fall flat the next ?? Or maybe NU has been 
> losing for so long on the court ?? Gary Barnett took a program that 
> had been losing forever, and in 5 seasons, took them to 2 Big Ten 
> titles.? And Barnett was not getting the highest-ranked prospects, but 
> he certainly got consistent overachievement from his players.
>
> We have to face facts - Carmody has, over twelve seasons, not 
> recruited sufficiently talented players, and has not gotten them to 
> over-achieve on a consistent basis.
>
>
> Chuck Herron
> cherron604 at aol.com
>
>
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: hakirsch <hakirsch at aol.com>
> To: Beamsley, Jeff <Jeff.Beamsley at covisint.com>; nwu-sports-bounces < 
> nwu-sports-bounces at tssi.com>; Roy S. Lamberton 
> <rstetson at capps-assoc.com>
> Cc: nwu-sports <nwu-sports at tssi.com>
> Sent: Wed, Feb 22, 2012 8:50 am
> Subject: Re: [NU Sports] Sun Times' Columnist puts his finger on the? 
> Ill-noise"problem"
>
>
> Time to run the table. We have the capability to do that even with the 
> blowout loss to the Bucks earlier
>
> Harry
> Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: "Beamsley, Jeff" <Jeff.Beamsley at covisint.com>
> Sender: nwu-sports-bounces at tssi.com
> Date: Wed, 22 Feb 2012 06:39:45
> To: Roy S. Lamberton<rstetson at capps-assoc.com>
> Cc: <nwu-sports at tssi.com>
> Subject: Re: [NU Sports] Sun Times' Columnist puts his finger on the
>? ? ? ? Ill-noise"problem"
>
> I think that we just got beat by a better team last night.
>
> UoM had every reason the let down after beating OSU, bit didn't.
>
> They just played better D than us.
>
> They forced us out of our game by aggressively defending the three and 
> switching on all screens.
>
> They were able to get their three point shooters open looks? against 
> our D and those kids made their shots.
>
> We had them in foul trouble early, but they fixed that in the second half.
>
> Sobo had another tough game, but you really can't blame this on him. 
> All our kids gave max effort and just ran out of gas in OT.
>
> It was a very tough loss, because a win was there for the taking. Just 
> turned out that UoM was the one who took it.
>
> Jeff
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Feb 22, 2012, at 6:18 AM, "Roy S. Lamberton" 
> <rstetson at capps-assoc.com>
> wrote:
>
> > "So the question at the heart of Weber's demise is this: Why is it 
> > so
> much
> more difficult
> > to get better players to overachieve? Maybe Weber is just more adept 
> > at
> getting more out
> > of less. But you also have to consider this possibility: Maybe good
> players
> are harder to
> > coach today. Maybe the increasing influence of AAU programs in the
> development
> of young
> > players - and the decreasing influence of high school coaches - 
> > instills
> a
> sense of
> > entitlement in talented players that makes it difficult for a coach 
> > like
> Bruce
> Weber to
> > get through to them."
> > Full Sun Times column:
> >
> http://www.suntimes.com/sports/colleges/10784671-419/what-went-wrong-w
> ith-bruce-weber-at-i
> > llinois.html
> >
> > And maybe NU's (Bill Carmody's) system of getting lower ranked 
> > prospects
> to
> (sometimes)
> > play at a very high level is why NU can overachieving one game, and 
> > fall
> flat
> the next?
> >
> > Or maybe it is just that NU has been losing for so long on the court...
> >
> > Kelly Amonte-Hiller didn't have that baggage when she took came in 
> > to
> start
> the Women's
> > Lacrosse program. She had her personal tradition of winning (from
> Maryland)
> and never had
> > to face the "never been there" syndrome that always seem to lurk in 
> > the
> background at
> > Welsh-Ryan.
> >
> > I know that once you lose that "winning" feeling, it can take a long
> time to
> get it back.
> > If you've never had a real winner, creating a winner is even harder.
> >
> > rsl
> >
> > +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
> > Opinions expressed above are mine alone and are not those of any 
> > organizations of which I am a member.
> > +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
> > Roy S. Lamberton - Senior Associate.
> > Computer Applications & Support Associates Coach Roy's Random 
> > Thoughts - http://coachroy.org
> > --------------------- Also ---------------------- "Commissioner" 
> > Delaware American Legion Baseball Director Media Relations - Little 
> > League? Senior League Softball World Series
> > CTR2 USN (67-70) - CTRCS USNR (Ret) (64-67/70-95) Northwestern 
> > University - Speech 1974 - Chi Phi: Pi 1974, KD 1968 Publisher 
> > Emeritus: Purple Reign (Fox Sports) 
> > =================================================
> > There is nothing wrong with America that the faith, love of freedom, 
> > intelligence and energy of her citizens cannot cure - Dwight D. 
> > Eisenhower =? =? =? =? =? =? =? =? =? =? =? =? =? =? =? =? = If we 
> > become a country in which we say, 'Please, tell me how to live,' 
> > We're Doomed!"
> >? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? -- Pete Hamill, "Prohibition"
> > ===========? Go Cats -? Beat 'em All? ===========
> >
> >
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> >
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From aaronsament at gmail.com  Thu Feb 23 17:42:55 2012
From: aaronsament at gmail.com (Aaron Ament)
Date: Thu, 23 Feb 2012 18:42:55 -0500
Subject: [NU Sports] Sun Times' Columnist puts his finger on	the
	Ill-noise"problem"
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Duke, Wake Forest, Notre Dame. 


On Feb 23, 2012, at 5:09 PM, hakirsch at aol.com wrote:

> Which 3 schools and what is the SAT standard differential that you claim is" significant" ?
> 
> Harry
> Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Aaron Ament <aaronsament at gmail.com>
> Date: Thu, 23 Feb 2012 16:47:33 
> To: hakirsch at aol.com<hakirsch at aol.com>
> Cc: Peter C. Warner<pcw at warnerpatents.com>; nwu-sports-bounces at tssi.com<nwu-sports-bounces at tssi.com>; Arthur Miller<artmiller1 at gmail.com>; chuck herron<cherron604 at aol.com>; Northwestern Wildcats<nwu-sports at tssi.com>
> Subject: Re: [NU Sports] Sun Times' Columnist puts his finger on    the Ill-noise"problem"
> 
> All schools listed have significantly lower academic admissions standards for their basketball team.  Obviously it would be easier to recruit academically qualified recruits if we signed a couple all Americans that didn't have the SAT score standards our recruits are held to, as we all know too well has happened at at least 3 of the schools you mentioned...
> 
> With that said, we still have a very good shot at the tournament if we win Saturday...
> 
> On Feb 23, 2012, at 4:18 PM, hakirsch at aol.com wrote:
> 
>> You guys have convinced me that BC should go. My standards had been lowered because of how horrible we were during my college years in the mid to late 70's and beyond. But with a larger NCAA field and mostly easy NC games we look better with our record and NIT invites.  
>> 
>> Our academic competitors Stanford,Duke Vandy, WF ?,ND, all have put together very competitive teams over the years. Maybe not every year for them, but most of them and certainly they can claim much better success since 1968 when we last had a winning conference record  
>> 
>> And remember our back yard of Chicago is a basketball mecca. So even if academics nullifies some of them, we sure must have eligible talent that we are being   outrecruited against
>> 
>> Harry
>> 
>> Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry
>> 
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: "Peter C. Warner" <pcw at warnerpatents.com>
>> Sender: nwu-sports-bounces at tssi.com
>> Date: Thu, 23 Feb 2012 11:45:39 
>> To: 'Arthur Miller'<artmiller1 at gmail.com>; 'chuck herron'<cherron604 at aol.com>; 'Northwestern Wildcats'<nwu-sports at tssi.com>
>> Subject: Re: [NU Sports] Sun Times' Columnist puts his finger on
>>   the    Ill-noise"problem"
>> 
>> You can Carmody because the 20-win seasons are based on a schedule of
>> pre-Big Ten season full of cupcakes.  After 12 seasons, his Big Ten record
>> (no season over .500?) cannot be viewed as a success.  
>> Like bowl appearances for a 6-6 team, four straight NIT appearances are made
>> possible by an ever-expanding NCAA field.
>> Chuck succinctly stated the problem and the solution:  Carmody cannot
>> recruit.  Fire him.
>> NU had reached a ceiling with Francis Peay. So, Peay's contract was not
>> renewed and NU hired an asst. coach from Colorado that, if nothing else, at
>> least gave NU hope that the future might get better.  
>> Give Hardy a chance or clean house entirely and hire someone else.  At least
>> give NU some hope.
>> -Peter Warner
>> 
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: nwu-sports-bounces at tssi.com [mailto:nwu-sports-bounces at tssi.com] On
>> Behalf Of Arthur Miller
>> Sent: Thursday, February 23, 2012 10:59 AM
>> To: chuck herron; Northwestern Wildcats
>> Subject: Re: [NU Sports] Sun Times' Columnist puts his finger on the
>> Ill-noise"problem"
>> 
>> Your conclusion is true, but the problem is that BC has a realistic shot at
>> making it 3 straight 20-win seasons and four straight NIT appearances.  How
>> does it look if we can him with the program showing clear improvement from
>> its historical level of performance?  The only thing worse than an
>> under-achieving program is an under-achieving program with unrealistic
>> expectations.
>> -Art Miller
>> 
>> On Wed, Feb 22, 2012 at 6:07 PM, chuck herron <cherron604 at aol.com> wrote:
>> 
>>> 
>>> When will we stop making excuses for Bill Carmody ?  He is now in his 
>>> twelth season as NU coach.  Maybe his 'system' of getting lower-ranked 
>>> prospects to (sometimes) play at a very high level' is why they can 
>>> overachieve one game, and fall flat the next ?  Or maybe NU has been 
>>> losing for so long on the court ?  Gary Barnett took a program that 
>>> had been losing forever, and in 5 seasons, took them to 2 Big Ten 
>>> titles.  And Barnett was not getting the highest-ranked prospects, but 
>>> he certainly got consistent overachievement from his players.
>>> 
>>> We have to face facts - Carmody has, over twelve seasons, not 
>>> recruited sufficiently talented players, and has not gotten them to 
>>> over-achieve on a consistent basis.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Chuck Herron
>>> cherron604 at aol.com
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: hakirsch <hakirsch at aol.com>
>>> To: Beamsley, Jeff <Jeff.Beamsley at covisint.com>; nwu-sports-bounces < 
>>> nwu-sports-bounces at tssi.com>; Roy S. Lamberton 
>>> <rstetson at capps-assoc.com>
>>> Cc: nwu-sports <nwu-sports at tssi.com>
>>> Sent: Wed, Feb 22, 2012 8:50 am
>>> Subject: Re: [NU Sports] Sun Times' Columnist puts his finger on the  
>>> Ill-noise"problem"
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Time to run the table. We have the capability to do that even with the 
>>> blowout loss to the Bucks earlier
>>> 
>>> Harry
>>> Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry
>>> 
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: "Beamsley, Jeff" <Jeff.Beamsley at covisint.com>
>>> Sender: nwu-sports-bounces at tssi.com
>>> Date: Wed, 22 Feb 2012 06:39:45
>>> To: Roy S. Lamberton<rstetson at capps-assoc.com>
>>> Cc: <nwu-sports at tssi.com>
>>> Subject: Re: [NU Sports] Sun Times' Columnist puts his finger on the
>>>      Ill-noise"problem"
>>> 
>>> I think that we just got beat by a better team last night.
>>> 
>>> UoM had every reason the let down after beating OSU, bit didn't.
>>> 
>>> They just played better D than us.
>>> 
>>> They forced us out of our game by aggressively defending the three and 
>>> switching on all screens.
>>> 
>>> They were able to get their three point shooters open looks  against 
>>> our D and those kids made their shots.
>>> 
>>> We had them in foul trouble early, but they fixed that in the second half.
>>> 
>>> Sobo had another tough game, but you really can't blame this on him. 
>>> All our kids gave max effort and just ran out of gas in OT.
>>> 
>>> It was a very tough loss, because a win was there for the taking. Just 
>>> turned out that UoM was the one who took it.
>>> 
>>> Jeff
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> 
>>> On Feb 22, 2012, at 6:18 AM, "Roy S. Lamberton" 
>>> <rstetson at capps-assoc.com>
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>>> "So the question at the heart of Weber's demise is this: Why is it 
>>>> so
>>> much
>>> more difficult
>>>> to get better players to overachieve? Maybe Weber is just more adept 
>>>> at
>>> getting more out
>>>> of less. But you also have to consider this possibility: Maybe good
>>> players
>>> are harder to
>>>> coach today. Maybe the increasing influence of AAU programs in the
>>> development
>>> of young
>>>> players - and the decreasing influence of high school coaches - 
>>>> instills
>>> a
>>> sense of
>>>> entitlement in talented players that makes it difficult for a coach 
>>>> like
>>> Bruce
>>> Weber to
>>>> get through to them."
>>>> Full Sun Times column:
>>>> 
>>> http://www.suntimes.com/sports/colleges/10784671-419/what-went-wrong-w
>>> ith-bruce-weber-at-i
>>>> llinois.html
>>>> 
>>>> And maybe NU's (Bill Carmody's) system of getting lower ranked 
>>>> prospects
>>> to
>>> (sometimes)
>>>> play at a very high level is why NU can overachieving one game, and 
>>>> fall
>>> flat
>>> the next?
>>>> 
>>>> Or maybe it is just that NU has been losing for so long on the court...
>>>> 
>>>> Kelly Amonte-Hiller didn't have that baggage when she took came in 
>>>> to
>>> start
>>> the Women's
>>>> Lacrosse program. She had her personal tradition of winning (from
>>> Maryland)
>>> and never had
>>>> to face the "never been there" syndrome that always seem to lurk in 
>>>> the
>>> background at
>>>> Welsh-Ryan.
>>>> 
>>>> I know that once you lose that "winning" feeling, it can take a long
>>> time to
>>> get it back.
>>>> If you've never had a real winner, creating a winner is even harder.
>>>> 
>>>> rsl
>>>> 
>>>> +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
>>>> Opinions expressed above are mine alone and are not those of any 
>>>> organizations of which I am a member.
>>>> +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
>>>> Roy S. Lamberton - Senior Associate.
>>>> Computer Applications & Support Associates Coach Roy's Random 
>>>> Thoughts - http://coachroy.org
>>>> --------------------- Also ---------------------- "Commissioner" 
>>>> Delaware American Legion Baseball Director Media Relations - Little 
>>>> League  Senior League Softball World Series
>>>> CTR2 USN (67-70) - CTRCS USNR (Ret) (64-67/70-95) Northwestern 
>>>> University - Speech 1974 - Chi Phi: Pi 1974, KD 1968 Publisher 
>>>> Emeritus: Purple Reign (Fox Sports) 
>>>> =================================================
>>>> There is nothing wrong with America that the faith, love of freedom, 
>>>> intelligence and energy of her citizens cannot cure - Dwight D. 
>>>> Eisenhower =  =  =  =  =  =  =  =  =  =  =  =  =  =  =  =  = If we 
>>>> become a country in which we say, 'Please, tell me how to live,' 
>>>> We're Doomed!"
>>>>                 -- Pete Hamill, "Prohibition"
>>>> ===========  Go Cats -  Beat 'em All  ===========
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
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From rstetson at capps-assoc.com  Thu Feb 23 18:35:50 2012
From: rstetson at capps-assoc.com (Roy S. Lamberton)
Date: Thu, 23 Feb 2012 19:35:50 -0500
Subject: [NU Sports] Sun Times' Columnist puts his
	finger	on	the	Ill-noise"problem"
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Wasn't there a story about Tommy Amaker's interview at NU.

He showed them (former Duke star) Chris Laytner's HS transcript and asked if he could get
into NU. The Admissions office told him no.

Somehow, Duke had a way to admit a good roundballer, and was reputed to have a special
Sports Management for Basketball Players program that they can finish in 3 years.

I think our players still have to match the rest of the student body, and I defy anyone to
finish NU in 3 years.

rsl

+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
Opinions expressed above are mine alone and are not
those of any organizations of which I am a member.
+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
Roy S. Lamberton - Senior Associate.
Computer Applications & Support Associates
Coach Roy's Random Thoughts - http://coachroy.org
--------------------- Also ----------------------
"Commissioner" Delaware American Legion Baseball
Director Media Relations - Little League 
  Senior League Softball World Series
CTR2 USN (67-70) - CTRCS USNR (Ret) (64-67/70-95)
Northwestern University - Speech 1974 - 
Chi Phi: Pi 1974, KD 1968
Publisher Emeritus: Purple Reign (Fox Sports)
=================================================
There is nothing wrong with America that the faith, 
love of freedom, intelligence and energy of her citizens 
cannot cure - Dwight D. Eisenhower
=  =  =  =  =  =  =  =  =  =  =  =  =  =  =  =  =
If we become a country in which we say, 'Please, 
tell me how to live,' We're Doomed!"
                   -- Pete Hamill, "Prohibition"
===========  Go Cats -? Beat 'em All  ===========



Our academic competitors Stanford,Duke Vandy, WF ?,ND, all have put together very
competitive teams over the years. 



From nolan at tssi.com  Thu Feb 23 19:37:11 2012
From: nolan at tssi.com (Mike Nolan)
Date: Thu, 23 Feb 2012 19:37:11 -0600 (CST)
Subject: [NU Sports] Sun Times' Columnist puts his
In-Reply-To: <00bb01ccf28c$437472b0$ca5d5810$@com>
Message-ID: <20120224013711.50167655FE@romaine.tssi.com>

> Wasn't there a story about Tommy Amaker's interview at NU.
> 
> He showed them (former Duke star) Chris Laytner's HS transcript and asked i=
> f he could get
> into NU. The Admissions office told him no.
> 
> Somehow, Duke had a way to admit a good roundballer, and was reputed to hav=
> e a special
> Sports Management for Basketball Players program that they can finish in 3 =
> years.

Laettner was at Duke for 4 seasons, but his bio doesn't indicate whether 
he ever graduated from Duke.  
--
Mike Nolan 


From rstetson at capps-assoc.com  Fri Feb 24 07:28:20 2012
From: rstetson at capps-assoc.com (Roy S. Lamberton)
Date: Fri, 24 Feb 2012 08:28:20 -0500
Subject: [NU Sports] Football Alumns: Mike Kafka gets another challenge in
	Philly
Message-ID: <010601ccf2f8$2dc777c0$89566740$@com>

http://www.philadelphiaeagles.com/news/dave-spadaro/article-1/Another-QB-Project-For-Eagle
s/1a9c694d-76e6-4ce0-9eb7-dff236792dd4

Links to an analysis of Trent Edwards' hiring at Philadelphia to replace Michael Vick's
backup, Vince Young.

Kafka was #3 on the Iggles depth chart all year, but this guy feels he's ready to move up
to #2 (based on some of the coaches.)

Anyway, I'd really like to see Mike succeed in Philly, just so he doesn't beat the Giants
all the time.

rsl

+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
Opinions expressed above are mine alone and are not
those of any organizations of which I am a member.
+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
Roy S. Lamberton - Senior Associate.
Computer Applications & Support Associates
Coach Roy's Random Thoughts - http://coachroy.org
--------------------- Also ----------------------
"Commissioner" Delaware American Legion Baseball
Director Media Relations - Little League 
  Senior League Softball World Series
CTR2 USN (67-70) - CTRCS USNR (Ret) (64-67/70-95)
Northwestern University - Speech 1974 - 
Chi Phi: Pi 1974, KD 1968
Publisher Emeritus: Purple Reign (Fox Sports)
=================================================
There is nothing wrong with America that the faith, 
love of freedom, intelligence and energy of her citizens 
cannot cure - Dwight D. Eisenhower
=  =  =  =  =  =  =  =  =  =  =  =  =  =  =  =  =
If we become a country in which we say, 'Please, 
tell me how to live,' We're Doomed!"
                   -- Pete Hamill, "Prohibition"
===========  Go Cats -? Beat 'em All  ===========





From cspnu81 at tds.net  Fri Feb 24 13:37:06 2012
From: cspnu81 at tds.net (Chris Patterson)
Date: Fri, 24 Feb 2012 14:37:06 -0500
Subject: [NU Sports] FW: Football Alumns: Mike Kafka gets another challenge
	in	Philly
In-Reply-To: <010601ccf2f8$2dc777c0$89566740$@com>
References: <010601ccf2f8$2dc777c0$89566740$@com>
Message-ID: <017201ccf32b$b248cac0$16da6040$@tds.net>

Interesting article. Thanks for posting.
 
Still remember Kafka in the Outback Bowl. Great game.
 
CP
 
From: nwu-sports-bounces at tssi.com [mailto:nwu-sports-bounces at tssi.com] On
Behalf Of Roy S. Lamberton
Sent: Friday, February 24, 2012 8:28 AM
To: 'Northwestern Wildcats'
Subject: [NU Sports] Football Alumns: Mike Kafka gets another challenge in
Philly
 
 
 
http://www.philadelphiaeagles.com/news/dave-spadaro/article-1/Another-QB-Pro
ject-For-Eagles/1a9c694d-76e6-4ce0-9eb7-dff236792dd4
 
 
Links to an analysis of Trent Edwards' hiring at Philadelphia to replace
Michael Vick's backup, Vince Young.
 
Kafka was #3 on the Iggles depth chart all year, but this guy feels he's
ready to move up to #2 (based on some of the coaches.)
 
Anyway, I'd really like to see Mike succeed in Philly, just so he doesn't
beat the Giants all the time.
 
rsl
 
+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
Opinions expressed above are mine alone and are not those of any
organizations of which I am a member.
+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
Roy S. Lamberton - Senior Associate.
Computer Applications & Support Associates Coach Roy's Random Thoughts -
http://coachroy.org
--------------------- Also ---------------------- "Commissioner" Delaware
American Legion Baseball Director Media Relations - Little League
  Senior League Softball World Series
CTR2 USN (67-70) - CTRCS USNR (Ret) (64-67/70-95) Northwestern University -
Speech 1974 - Chi Phi: Pi 1974, KD 1968 Publisher Emeritus: Purple Reign
(Fox Sports) =================================================
There is nothing wrong with America that the faith, love of freedom,
intelligence and energy of her citizens cannot cure - Dwight D. Eisenhower =
=  =  =  =  =  =  =  =  =  =  =  =  =  =  =  = If we become a country in
which we say, 'Please, tell me how to live,' We're Doomed!"
                   -- Pete Hamill, "Prohibition"
===========  Go Cats -  Beat 'em All  ===========
 
 
 
 
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From nolan at tssi.com  Fri Feb 24 13:54:37 2012
From: nolan at tssi.com (Mike Nolan)
Date: Fri, 24 Feb 2012 13:54:37 -0600 (CST)
Subject: [NU Sports] Football Rule changes for 2012
Message-ID: <20120224195437.D2E376556E@romaine.tssi.com>

The NCAA will join the NFL in in 2012 in moving kickoffs from the 30 to 
the 35 yard line.

However, the NCAA will also move touchbacks to the 25 instead of the 20.
ESPN says is suppposed to  encourage more touchbacks.  That may be true for
the receiving team, but if that affects field goals as well as kickoffs, 
it isn't clear how that will affect kicking team decision making.

A rule I have favored for a while has also been passed.  A player whose
helmet comes off during a play must leave the game for one play.

I wonder if that will apply to plays where the helmet is ripped off
by a defender?  

There are also new rules on blocking below the waist and on punt
returns.  Also, players cannot leap over blockers when trying
to block punts.

Spring and fall drills will have to deal with these rule changes a
lot, I suspect.  (For officials, too.)

See http://espn.go.com/college-football/story/_/id/7611324/ncaa-moves-kickoffs-30-yard-line-35
--
Mike Nolan


From j-hodges at alumni.northwestern.edu  Fri Feb 24 14:03:03 2012
From: j-hodges at alumni.northwestern.edu (Jonathan Hodges)
Date: Fri, 24 Feb 2012 15:03:03 -0500
Subject: [NU Sports] Football Rule changes for 2012
In-Reply-To: <20120224195437.D2E376556E@romaine.tssi.com>
References: <20120224195437.D2E376556E@romaine.tssi.com>
Message-ID: <CAAxRJu43Jp5ux21k=nAigE5Ss6DAVZ3twHZzzia6Zg9pc2aGcg@mail.gmail.com>

Regarding the helmet being removed by an opponent: that would be a penalty
on the opponent and the one play out of game rule would not apply.

It is unclear, though, how exactly they would enforce the part of the rule
that a player whose helmet has come off must stop participating in the play
(think of Dan Persa on the fourth down play against Michigan this past
season).

Here were the initial proposals (note that the only one not adopted was
additional protection for the return man on kicks):
http://www.ncaa.org/wps/wcm/connect/public/ncaa/resources/latest+news/2012/february/committee+recommends+several+football+rules+proposals+to+enhance+safety

Also, just to head off any further questions, the touchback to the 25 yard
line is ONLY on free kicks (kickoffs & post-safety kicks), not punts into
the end zone / fumbles into/through an opponent's end zone / interceptions
or fumbles recovered in one's own end zone / etc.  It will be interesting
to see if this, in fact, ends up having more teams kickoff short of the
goal line to force returns to try and pin them inside the 25.  Also, it
makes a shorter "pooch" kick and onside try more enticing due to that
additional 5 yards.  Though it also restricts the kicking team from lining
up further back than 5 yards, I am really not sure that will make a huge
difference.

Jonathan

--
Jonathan Hodges
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On Fri, Feb 24, 2012 at 2:54 PM, Mike Nolan <nolan at tssi.com> wrote:

> The NCAA will join the NFL in in 2012 in moving kickoffs from the 30 to
> the 35 yard line.
>
> However, the NCAA will also move touchbacks to the 25 instead of the 20.
> ESPN says is suppposed to  encourage more touchbacks.  That may be true for
> the receiving team, but if that affects field goals as well as kickoffs,
> it isn't clear how that will affect kicking team decision making.
>
> A rule I have favored for a while has also been passed.  A player whose
> helmet comes off during a play must leave the game for one play.
>
> I wonder if that will apply to plays where the helmet is ripped off
> by a defender?
>
> There are also new rules on blocking below the waist and on punt
> returns.  Also, players cannot leap over blockers when trying
> to block punts.
>
> Spring and fall drills will have to deal with these rule changes a
> lot, I suspect.  (For officials, too.)
>
> See
> http://espn.go.com/college-football/story/_/id/7611324/ncaa-moves-kickoffs-30-yard-line-35
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From tbng at comcast.net  Fri Feb 24 14:40:40 2012
From: tbng at comcast.net (Dennis W. Brandt)
Date: Fri, 24 Feb 2012 15:40:40 -0500
Subject: [NU Sports] Football Rule changes for 2012
References: <20120224195437.D2E376556E@romaine.tssi.com>
Message-ID: <3F635B537CF24327A7E2321FFF9DA3F2@dennismachine>

> The NCAA will join the NFL in in 2012 in moving kickoffs from the 30 to
> the 35 yard line.

It isn't a good rule in the NFL, and it isn't a good rule in the NCAA 
either.

> However, the NCAA will also move touchbacks to the 25 instead of the 20.
> ESPN says is suppposed to  encourage more touchbacks.  That may be true 
> for
> the receiving team, but if that affects field goals as well as kickoffs,
> it isn't clear how that will affect kicking team decision making.

Encourage more touchbacks?  How?  Since the kicking team is five yards 
closer and there is essentially a five-yard penalty for kicking the ball 
into the endzone, I suspect strategy will be to kick to the goal line since 
they have five yards less to reach the ball carrier.  While the NCAA may 
look to reduce injuries on kickoffs, I think they've encouraged more 
contact.  If they want to eliminate injuries on kickoffs, then let's just 
let the other team start on the 25-yard line after a score.  Might as well 
completely discourage one of the most exciting plays in football.

> A rule I have favored for a while has also been passed.  A player whose
> helmet comes off during a play must leave the game for one play.

Why if he's not hurt?

> Also, players cannot leap over blockers when trying to block punts.

If a guy has the skill to leap over the other team's players without 
assistance, so what?  If the blocker is flat on the ground, the rusher has 
to go around him?

The NCAA rules committee has WAY too much free time on its hands.


From j-hodges at alumni.northwestern.edu  Fri Feb 24 15:03:25 2012
From: j-hodges at alumni.northwestern.edu (Jonathan Hodges)
Date: Fri, 24 Feb 2012 16:03:25 -0500
Subject: [NU Sports] Football Rule changes for 2012
In-Reply-To: <3F635B537CF24327A7E2321FFF9DA3F2@dennismachine>
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Responses below:


On Fri, Feb 24, 2012 at 3:40 PM, Dennis W. Brandt <tbng at comcast.net> wrote:

>  The NCAA will join the NFL in in 2012 in moving kickoffs from the 30 to
>> the 35 yard line.
>>
>
> It isn't a good rule in the NFL, and it isn't a good rule in the NCAA
> either.


It's interesting that back in 2006, the NCAA moved kickoffs back to the 30
after being at the 35 forever.  At the time the NFL was at the 30.  This
change was mostly made as a package with other changes to reduce game time
(this reduced touchbacks and therefore made sure that the cock ran off some
time on kickoffs); some of those other timing changes were later removed
but this one remained.  Also, I'm sure alignment with the NFL had something
to do with it.

When the NFL moved kickoffs up to the 35 this year to try and increase
touchbacks and thereby prevent some injuries, I knew the NCAA wouldn't be
far behind.

This is a very interesting topic as studies have shown that there are more
injuries on kickoffs with players running full tilt at each other than on
other types of plays, and there is room to change the rules without overly
affecting the game on kickoffs (clearly what they are trying to do).  I
enjoy watching great returns and understand their value and excitement but
also want to prevent injury; I am honestly not sure what to think about
this.

>
>
>  However, the NCAA will also move touchbacks to the 25 instead of the 20.
>> ESPN says is suppposed to  encourage more touchbacks.  That may be true
>> for
>> the receiving team, but if that affects field goals as well as kickoffs,
>> it isn't clear how that will affect kicking team decision making.
>>
>
> Encourage more touchbacks?  How?  Since the kicking team is five yards
> closer and there is essentially a five-yard penalty for kicking the ball
> into the endzone, I suspect strategy will be to kick to the goal line since
> they have five yards less to reach the ball carrier.  While the NCAA may
> look to reduce injuries on kickoffs, I think they've encouraged more
> contact.  If they want to eliminate injuries on kickoffs, then let's just
> let the other team start on the 25-yard line after a score.  Might as well
> completely discourage one of the most exciting plays in football.


It is supposed to encourage more touchbacks by enticing the receiving team
to take a knee instead of try and take it out of the end zone.  Look at the
NFL this year (with kickoffs from the 35), where return men are taking it
out from deep (5+ yards) into the end zone where many never even thought of
doing so before.  The NCAA clearly saw this and decided to try and entice
the receiving team to take a knee for the touchback.

I am not sure the strategy we'll see kicking teams employ, but those extra
5 yards for the touchback may be enough to get them to kick short of the
goal line.  We'll have to wait and see what the return/touchback ratio is
for the NCAA compared to the NFL after the recent changes compared to what
they were before to really see.

Regarding elimination of the kickoff, like I said before this is an
interesting area and I could see the argument for elimination of the
kickoff - which many proposed after the LeGrande injury at Rutgers
recently.  We'll see if these changes reduce the injury rate; if they
don't, I think we could see the eventual elimination of kickoffs.


>
>
>  A rule I have favored for a while has also been passed.  A player whose
>> helmet comes off during a play must leave the game for one play.
>>
>
> Why if he's not hurt?


To encourage players to securely fasten their helmets, which apparently
isn't happening well enough as it is.  Also, a helmet coming off could end
up equating to a free timeout or stoppage in play and this treats this
situation the same as an injury where there is some consequence for
stopping play.


>
>
>  Also, players cannot leap over blockers when trying to block punts.
>>
>
> If a guy has the skill to leap over the other team's players without
> assistance, so what?  If the blocker is flat on the ground, the rusher has
> to go around him?
>
> The NCAA rules committee has WAY too much free time on its hands.


All this rule does is bring in the same rule as is in place for a field
goal try: defensive players are not allowed to get a running start and try
to leap over a player.  There is a significantly higher chance of injury
(to the leaping player and any player he may hit while landing) so I can
see limiting this.  If a player is laying on the ground, the rushing player
should be able to go over him in stride without leaping (both feet
simultaneously leaving the ground).  And if a player is strong enough he
can still just plain bowl over the blocker or shove him out of the way.

IMHO, it's tough to lambast the rules committee for these changes as they
are all done to address injury.  It's nice to see when administrators and
the NCAA implement changes to directly benefit students (this to prevent
injury, and the recently upheld multi-year scholarship allowance).

Jonathan


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From hakirsch at aol.com  Fri Feb 24 15:09:43 2012
From: hakirsch at aol.com (hakirsch at aol.com)
Date: Fri, 24 Feb 2012 21:09:43 +0000
Subject: [NU Sports] Football Rule changes for 2012
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I'm an admitted old schooler and moving kickoff yardlines never really struck me as being a significant rule change ( I remember when it was from the 40) even though it obviously could affect whether it was a touchback or a return but somehow spotting the ball at the 25 for a TB seems like a big change to me.  Less likely for someone to opt for a runback and possibly more 4th downs "going for it" since a "bad" punt brings it out a further 

If you are at the opponents 40 you will only pick up 15 yards on a bad punt

Harry
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Date: Fri, 24 Feb 2012 15:40:40 
To: <nwu-sports at tssi.com>
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Subject: Re: [NU Sports] Football Rule changes for 2012

> The NCAA will join the NFL in in 2012 in moving kickoffs from the 30 to
> the 35 yard line.

It isn't a good rule in the NFL, and it isn't a good rule in the NCAA 
either.

> However, the NCAA will also move touchbacks to the 25 instead of the 20.
> ESPN says is suppposed to  encourage more touchbacks.  That may be true 
> for
> the receiving team, but if that affects field goals as well as kickoffs,
> it isn't clear how that will affect kicking team decision making.

Encourage more touchbacks?  How?  Since the kicking team is five yards 
closer and there is essentially a five-yard penalty for kicking the ball 
into the endzone, I suspect strategy will be to kick to the goal line since 
they have five yards less to reach the ball carrier.  While the NCAA may 
look to reduce injuries on kickoffs, I think they've encouraged more 
contact.  If they want to eliminate injuries on kickoffs, then let's just 
let the other team start on the 25-yard line after a score.  Might as well 
completely discourage one of the most exciting plays in football.

> A rule I have favored for a while has also been passed.  A player whose
> helmet comes off during a play must leave the game for one play.

Why if he's not hurt?

> Also, players cannot leap over blockers when trying to block punts.

If a guy has the skill to leap over the other team's players without 
assistance, so what?  If the blocker is flat on the ground, the rusher has 
to go around him?

The NCAA rules committee has WAY too much free time on its hands.

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From j-hodges at alumni.northwestern.edu  Fri Feb 24 15:12:15 2012
From: j-hodges at alumni.northwestern.edu (Jonathan Hodges)
Date: Fri, 24 Feb 2012 16:12:15 -0500
Subject: [NU Sports] Football Rule changes for 2012
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Re-clarification: Also, just to head off any further questions, the
touchback to the 25 yard line is ONLY on free kicks (kickoffs & post-safety
kicks), NOT punts into the end zone / fumbles into/through an opponent's
end zone / interceptions or fumbles recovered in one's own end zone / etc.

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Twitter: @hailtopurple
Email: j-hodges at alumni.northwestern.edu



On Fri, Feb 24, 2012 at 4:09 PM, <hakirsch at aol.com> wrote:

> I'm an admitted old schooler and moving kickoff yardlines never really
> struck me as being a significant rule change ( I remember when it was from
> the 40) even though it obviously could affect whether it was a touchback or
> a return but somehow spotting the ball at the 25 for a TB seems like a big
> change to me.  Less likely for someone to opt for a runback and possibly
> more 4th downs "going for it" since a "bad" punt brings it out a further
>
> If you are at the opponents 40 you will only pick up 15 yards on a bad punt
>
> Harry
> Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: "Dennis W. Brandt" <tbng at comcast.net>
> Sender: nwu-sports-bounces at tssi.com
> Date: Fri, 24 Feb 2012 15:40:40
> To: <nwu-sports at tssi.com>
> Reply-To: "Dennis W. Brandt" <tbng at comcast.net>
> Subject: Re: [NU Sports] Football Rule changes for 2012
>
> > The NCAA will join the NFL in in 2012 in moving kickoffs from the 30 to
> > the 35 yard line.
>
> It isn't a good rule in the NFL, and it isn't a good rule in the NCAA
> either.
>
> > However, the NCAA will also move touchbacks to the 25 instead of the 20.
> > ESPN says is suppposed to  encourage more touchbacks.  That may be true
> > for
> > the receiving team, but if that affects field goals as well as kickoffs,
> > it isn't clear how that will affect kicking team decision making.
>
> Encourage more touchbacks?  How?  Since the kicking team is five yards
> closer and there is essentially a five-yard penalty for kicking the ball
> into the endzone, I suspect strategy will be to kick to the goal line since
> they have five yards less to reach the ball carrier.  While the NCAA may
> look to reduce injuries on kickoffs, I think they've encouraged more
> contact.  If they want to eliminate injuries on kickoffs, then let's just
> let the other team start on the 25-yard line after a score.  Might as well
> completely discourage one of the most exciting plays in football.
>
> > A rule I have favored for a while has also been passed.  A player whose
> > helmet comes off during a play must leave the game for one play.
>
> Why if he's not hurt?
>
> > Also, players cannot leap over blockers when trying to block punts.
>
> If a guy has the skill to leap over the other team's players without
> assistance, so what?  If the blocker is flat on the ground, the rusher has
> to go around him?
>
> The NCAA rules committee has WAY too much free time on its hands.
>
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From hakirsch at aol.com  Fri Feb 24 15:14:05 2012
From: hakirsch at aol.com (hakirsch at aol.com)
Date: Fri, 24 Feb 2012 21:14:05 +0000
Subject: [NU Sports] Football Rule changes for 2012
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Ah. Thanks.  Doesn't seem quite as "bad"

Harry
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Subject: Re: [NU Sports] Football Rule changes for 2012

Re-clarification: Also, just to head off any further questions, the
touchback to the 25 yard line is ONLY on free kicks (kickoffs & post-safety
kicks), NOT punts into the end zone / fumbles into/through an opponent's
end zone / interceptions or fumbles recovered in one's own end zone / etc.

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On Fri, Feb 24, 2012 at 4:09 PM, <hakirsch at aol.com> wrote:

> I'm an admitted old schooler and moving kickoff yardlines never really
> struck me as being a significant rule change ( I remember when it was from
> the 40) even though it obviously could affect whether it was a touchback or
> a return but somehow spotting the ball at the 25 for a TB seems like a big
> change to me.  Less likely for someone to opt for a runback and possibly
> more 4th downs "going for it" since a "bad" punt brings it out a further
>
> If you are at the opponents 40 you will only pick up 15 yards on a bad punt
>
> Harry
> Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: "Dennis W. Brandt" <tbng at comcast.net>
> Sender: nwu-sports-bounces at tssi.com
> Date: Fri, 24 Feb 2012 15:40:40
> To: <nwu-sports at tssi.com>
> Reply-To: "Dennis W. Brandt" <tbng at comcast.net>
> Subject: Re: [NU Sports] Football Rule changes for 2012
>
> > The NCAA will join the NFL in in 2012 in moving kickoffs from the 30 to
> > the 35 yard line.
>
> It isn't a good rule in the NFL, and it isn't a good rule in the NCAA
> either.
>
> > However, the NCAA will also move touchbacks to the 25 instead of the 20.
> > ESPN says is suppposed to  encourage more touchbacks.  That may be true
> > for
> > the receiving team, but if that affects field goals as well as kickoffs,
> > it isn't clear how that will affect kicking team decision making.
>
> Encourage more touchbacks?  How?  Since the kicking team is five yards
> closer and there is essentially a five-yard penalty for kicking the ball
> into the endzone, I suspect strategy will be to kick to the goal line since
> they have five yards less to reach the ball carrier.  While the NCAA may
> look to reduce injuries on kickoffs, I think they've encouraged more
> contact.  If they want to eliminate injuries on kickoffs, then let's just
> let the other team start on the 25-yard line after a score.  Might as well
> completely discourage one of the most exciting plays in football.
>
> > A rule I have favored for a while has also been passed.  A player whose
> > helmet comes off during a play must leave the game for one play.
>
> Why if he's not hurt?
>
> > Also, players cannot leap over blockers when trying to block punts.
>
> If a guy has the skill to leap over the other team's players without
> assistance, so what?  If the blocker is flat on the ground, the rusher has
> to go around him?
>
> The NCAA rules committee has WAY too much free time on its hands.
>
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From nolan at tssi.com  Fri Feb 24 16:36:31 2012
From: nolan at tssi.com (Mike Nolan)
Date: Fri, 24 Feb 2012 16:36:31 -0600 (CST)
Subject: [NU Sports] Football Rule changes for 2012
In-Reply-To: <CAAxRJu7XCWSoM4sf57qpSzabxzMX2Ux5qinP5oVJZdfLgonkyg@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <20120224223632.058DA655B2@romaine.tssi.com>

> Re-clarification: Also, just to head off any further questions, the
> touchback to the 25 yard line is ONLY on free kicks (kickoffs & post-safety
> kicks), NOT punts into the end zone / fumbles into/through an opponent's
> end zone / interceptions or fumbles recovered in one's own end zone / etc.

What about field goals attempts from inside the 25?
--
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From j-hodges at alumni.northwestern.edu  Fri Feb 24 16:44:01 2012
From: j-hodges at alumni.northwestern.edu (Jonathan Hodges)
Date: Fri, 24 Feb 2012 17:44:01 -0500
Subject: [NU Sports] Football Rule changes for 2012
In-Reply-To: <20120224223632.058DA655B2@romaine.tssi.com>
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Field goals are scrimmage kicks, so any missed FG inside the 20 would go to
the 20.

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On Fri, Feb 24, 2012 at 5:36 PM, Mike Nolan <nolan at tssi.com> wrote:

> > Re-clarification: Also, just to head off any further questions, the
> > touchback to the 25 yard line is ONLY on free kicks (kickoffs &
> post-safety
> > kicks), NOT punts into the end zone / fumbles into/through an opponent's
> > end zone / interceptions or fumbles recovered in one's own end zone /
> etc.
>
> What about field goals attempts from inside the 25?
> --
> Mike Nolan
>

From tbng at comcast.net  Fri Feb 24 16:56:17 2012
From: tbng at comcast.net (Dennis W. Brandt)
Date: Fri, 24 Feb 2012 17:56:17 -0500
Subject: [NU Sports] Football Rule changes for 2012
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We train football players to have prodigious strength, to maximize speed and quickness, to hit with the force of a truck, and then pass rules to subdue that power.  Anyone see a contradiction there?

Some rule changes have made sense, such as disallowing - even disqualifying (and fining) - any player who deliberately uses his helment as a weapon and keeping players with concussion symptoms out of the game.  But don't expect to eliminate significantly helmet-to-helmet contact, broken ribs, or knees being snapped into uselessness.  With powerful, athletic guys flying around at awesome speed, it is impossible unless you want the NCAA to switch to flag football (although broken body parts are still possible even then).  And don't tell me you don't jump up and cheer when one of the boys in purple knocks an opponent into semiconsciousness with a clean hit.

At what point to you destroy the game of football?  When do games become consumed with referees tossing yellow hankies and moving the ball back fifteen yards?  Maybe JoePa was right and players should go back to wearing leather helmets.  Then no one will lead with his head.

From j-hodges at alumni.northwestern.edu  Fri Feb 24 17:02:56 2012
From: j-hodges at alumni.northwestern.edu (Jonathan Hodges)
Date: Fri, 24 Feb 2012 18:02:56 -0500
Subject: [NU Sports] Football Rule changes for 2012
In-Reply-To: <207532ED3794457597D25969856859AA@dennismachine>
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This will clearly be the defining question for the sport of football in the
near future with brain injuries, both acute and chronic, now in the
spotlight and undergoing further study.  We'll see how it affects rec
league/middle/high school football in terms of participation and rules and
then college football and the NFL in terms of lawsuits, etc.  The problem
is that we know that horrible injuries and permanent damage are possible
but the sport is extremely entertaining, popular, and profitable.  That is
fine for professionals, but the fact is that players must start playing the
game early and who will allow their children to play the game?

I don't know the answer and I'm not saying that any of these tweaks will
fix anything (I doubt they will).  But the game is evolving because it has
to.  Maybe we'll eventually see the elimination of contact football for
minors.

This isn't the first time it's undergone a major change: just look at the
early 1900s when the sport was almost banned due to violence before
introducing the forward pass.  It will be interesting to see what happens.

Jonathan

--
Jonathan Hodges
Contributor, HailToPurple
Web: http://www.hailtopurple.com/jhodges/
Twitter: @hailtopurple
Email: j-hodges at alumni.northwestern.edu



On Fri, Feb 24, 2012 at 5:56 PM, Dennis W. Brandt <tbng at comcast.net> wrote:

> We train football players to have prodigious strength, to maximize speed
> and quickness, to hit with the force of a truck, and then pass rules to
> subdue that power.  Anyone see a contradiction there?
>
> Some rule changes have made sense, such as disallowing - even
> disqualifying (and fining) - any player who deliberately uses his helment
> as a weapon and keeping players with concussion symptoms out of the game.
>  But don't expect to eliminate significantly helmet-to-helmet contact,
> broken ribs, or knees being snapped into uselessness.  With powerful,
> athletic guys flying around at awesome speed, it is impossible unless you
> want the NCAA to switch to flag football (although broken body parts are
> still possible even then).  And don't tell me you don't jump up and cheer
> when one of the boys in purple knocks an opponent into semiconsciousness
> with a clean hit.
>
> At what point to you destroy the game of football?  When do games become
> consumed with referees tossing yellow hankies and moving the ball back
> fifteen yards?  Maybe JoePa was right and players should go back to wearing
> leather helmets.  Then no one will lead with his head.
> _______________________________________________
> nwu-sports site list
> nwu-sports at tssi.com
> http://romaine.tssi.com/mailman/listinfo/nwu-sports
>

From hakirsch at aol.com  Fri Feb 24 17:11:45 2012
From: hakirsch at aol.com (hakirsch at aol.com)
Date: Fri, 24 Feb 2012 23:11:45 +0000
Subject: [NU Sports] Football Rule changes for 2012
In-Reply-To: <CAAxRJu6KMt3OTVSJWY=iMyO972pRpLPmEdo7+p96DVtjdq6SnA@mail.gmail.com>
References: <20120224195437.D2E376556E@romaine.tssi.com>
 <3F635B537CF24327A7E2321FFF9DA3F2@dennismachine>
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One issue for me to throw in my 2 cents regarding "clean hits" is that many college athletes either attempt a clean hit or think they are making a clean hit (might be too naive
 to think otherwise).  
These can result in serious injuries.  It may be a tough line to walk(protection vs pansy football) but I applaud the officials in both college and pros attempting to do it. 

I will never forget seeing Patriot Daryl Stingley (from Purdue) getting nailed by Raider Jack Tatum (from OSU). Still not sure if it was a clean hit or not,but it left a really nice Chicago guy paralyzed until his untimely death. (Seeing him at Bulls games in a wheelchair used to give me chills)

Harry


Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry

-----Original Message-----
From: Jonathan Hodges <j-hodges at alumni.northwestern.edu>
Sender: nwu-sports-bounces at tssi.com
Date: Fri, 24 Feb 2012 18:02:56 
To: Dennis W. Brandt<tbng at comcast.net>
Cc: <nwu-sports at tssi.com>
Subject: Re: [NU Sports] Football Rule changes for 2012

This will clearly be the defining question for the sport of football in the
near future with brain injuries, both acute and chronic, now in the
spotlight and undergoing further study.  We'll see how it affects rec
league/middle/high school football in terms of participation and rules and
then college football and the NFL in terms of lawsuits, etc.  The problem
is that we know that horrible injuries and permanent damage are possible
but the sport is extremely entertaining, popular, and profitable.  That is
fine for professionals, but the fact is that players must start playing the
game early and who will allow their children to play the game?

I don't know the answer and I'm not saying that any of these tweaks will
fix anything (I doubt they will).  But the game is evolving because it has
to.  Maybe we'll eventually see the elimination of contact football for
minors.

This isn't the first time it's undergone a major change: just look at the
early 1900s when the sport was almost banned due to violence before
introducing the forward pass.  It will be interesting to see what happens.

Jonathan

--
Jonathan Hodges
Contributor, HailToPurple
Web: http://www.hailtopurple.com/jhodges/
Twitter: @hailtopurple
Email: j-hodges at alumni.northwestern.edu



On Fri, Feb 24, 2012 at 5:56 PM, Dennis W. Brandt <tbng at comcast.net> wrote:

> We train football players to have prodigious strength, to maximize speed
> and quickness, to hit with the force of a truck, and then pass rules to
> subdue that power.  Anyone see a contradiction there?
>
> Some rule changes have made sense, such as disallowing - even
> disqualifying (and fining) - any player who deliberately uses his helment
> as a weapon and keeping players with concussion symptoms out of the game.
>  But don't expect to eliminate significantly helmet-to-helmet contact,
> broken ribs, or knees being snapped into uselessness.  With powerful,
> athletic guys flying around at awesome speed, it is impossible unless you
> want the NCAA to switch to flag football (although broken body parts are
> still possible even then).  And don't tell me you don't jump up and cheer
> when one of the boys in purple knocks an opponent into semiconsciousness
> with a clean hit.
>
> At what point to you destroy the game of football?  When do games become
> consumed with referees tossing yellow hankies and moving the ball back
> fifteen yards?  Maybe JoePa was right and players should go back to wearing
> leather helmets.  Then no one will lead with his head.
> _______________________________________________
> nwu-sports site list
> nwu-sports at tssi.com
> http://romaine.tssi.com/mailman/listinfo/nwu-sports
>
_______________________________________________
nwu-sports site list
nwu-sports at tssi.com
http://romaine.tssi.com/mailman/listinfo/nwu-sports

From wildelk2 at aol.com  Sat Feb 25 00:05:35 2012
From: wildelk2 at aol.com (Eric Kunkel)
Date: Sat, 25 Feb 2012 01:05:35 -0500 (EST)
Subject: [NU Sports] Football Rule changes for 2012
In-Reply-To: <207532ED3794457597D25969856859AA@dennismachine>
References: <20120224195437.D2E376556E@romaine.tssi.com><3F635B537CF24327A7E2321FFF9DA3F2@dennismachine><1740179976-1330117784-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-2049791510-@b11.c7.bise6.blackberry><CAAxRJu7XCWSoM4sf57qpSzabxzMX2Ux5qinP5oVJZdfLgonkyg@mail.gmail.com><1302392800-1330118046-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-1967121655-@b11.c7.bise6.blackberry>
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Message-ID: <8CEC19A9FB9BC83-C94-7317@webmail-m019.sysops.aol.com>

Hell Yes.  Brad Phillips knocking Io-a running back Greene into yesterday was lovely.  Seeing Louis Ayeni drill any thing that moved was also high on my list. Chris Spielman has it right: a slobber knocker is a beautiful thing.  GO CATS!!    Eric



-----Original Message-----
From: Dennis W. Brandt <tbng at comcast.net>
To: nwu-sports <nwu-sports at tssi.com>
Sent: Fri, Feb 24, 2012 5:56 pm
Subject: Re: [NU Sports] Football Rule changes for 2012


We train football players to have prodigious strength, to maximize speed and 
uickness, to hit with the force of a truck, and then pass rules to subdue that 
ower.  Anyone see a contradiction there?
Some rule changes have made sense, such as disallowing - even disqualifying (and 
ining) - any player who deliberately uses his helment as a weapon and keeping 
layers with concussion symptoms out of the game.  But don't expect to eliminate 
ignificantly helmet-to-helmet contact, broken ribs, or knees being snapped into 
selessness.  With powerful, athletic guys flying around at awesome speed, it is 
mpossible unless you want the NCAA to switch to flag football (although broken 
ody parts are still possible even then).  And don't tell me you don't jump up 
nd cheer when one of the boys in purple knocks an opponent into 
emiconsciousness with a clean hit.
At what point to you destroy the game of football?  When do games become 
onsumed with referees tossing yellow hankies and moving the ball back fifteen 
ards?  Maybe JoePa was right and players should go back to wearing leather 
elmets.  Then no one will lead with his head.
______________________________________________
wu-sports site list
wu-sports at tssi.com
ttp://romaine.tssi.com/mailman/listinfo/nwu-sports


From hakirsch at aol.com  Sat Feb 25 09:54:42 2012
From: hakirsch at aol.com (hakirsch at aol.com)
Date: Sat, 25 Feb 2012 15:54:42 +0000
Subject: [NU Sports] Hoops
Message-ID: <1115857455-1330185284-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-1431017508-@b11.c7.bise6.blackberry>

Starting to night we need to win our last remaining 3 games and at least a win or 2 in the BT tourney to go to the Dance

I put the odds at no better than 1 in 5 and that may be stretching it. 
Beating PSU tonight is very do-able but can't be taken for granted.  

Beating OSU is a long shot but given our up and down season, it's possible if we get hot,make few mistakes, and catch the Bucks sleeping.  And beating the Bucks,should we be so fortunate, would likely be remembered by the Selection Committee

So I for one will be rooting hard tonight  and retain some faint hope for us 

Harry
Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry


From Jeff.Beamsley at covisint.com  Sat Feb 25 14:42:13 2012
From: Jeff.Beamsley at covisint.com (Beamsley, Jeff)
Date: Sat, 25 Feb 2012 15:42:13 -0500
Subject: [NU Sports] Hoops
In-Reply-To: <1115857455-1330185284-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-1431017508-@b11.c7.bise6.blackberry>
References: <1115857455-1330185284-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-1431017508-@b11.c7.bise6.blackberry>
Message-ID: <7CE87B5D-9991-457E-9352-543EBE81CD3D@covisint.com>

Let's get past tonight. 

I don't think we have to go 3-0, but we have to beat PSU and those pesky hogeyes ( who have been playing well). 

Jeff

Sent from my iPhone

On Feb 25, 2012, at 10:55 AM, "hakirsch at aol.com" <hakirsch at aol.com> wrote:

> Starting to night we need to win our last remaining 3 games and at least a win or 2 in the BT tourney to go to the Dance
> 
> I put the odds at no better than 1 in 5 and that may be stretching it. 
> Beating PSU tonight is very do-able but can't be taken for granted.  
> 
> Beating OSU is a long shot but given our up and down season, it's possible if we get hot,make few mistakes, and catch the Bucks sleeping.  And beating the Bucks,should we be so fortunate, would likely be remembered by the Selection Committee
> 
> So I for one will be rooting hard tonight  and retain some faint hope for us 
> 
> Harry
> Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry
> 
> _______________________________________________
> nwu-sports site list
> nwu-sports at tssi.com
> http://romaine.tssi.com/mailman/listinfo/nwu-sports
> 


From hakirsch at aol.com  Sat Feb 25 15:21:43 2012
From: hakirsch at aol.com (hakirsch at aol.com)
Date: Sat, 25 Feb 2012 21:21:43 +0000
Subject: [NU Sports] Hoops
Message-ID: <1163423646-1330205452-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-154944786-@b11.c7.bise6.blackberry>

You are right that we first need to get past tonight.  But I wanted to provide an incentive for us listers to still care about tonight. By stating some argument that  we still have a prayer at the Dance hopefully gives us a reason to watch and root the Cats on 

Harry
------Original Message------
From: Beamsley, Jeff
To: Harry
Cc: nwu-sports at tssi.com
Subject: Re: [NU Sports] Hoops
Sent: Feb 25, 2012 12:42 PM

Let's get past tonight. 

I don't think we have to go 3-0, but we have to beat PSU and those pesky hogeyes ( who have been playing well). 

Jeff

Sent from my iPhone

On Feb 25, 2012, at 10:55 AM, "hakirsch at aol.com" <hakirsch at aol.com> wrote:

> Starting to night we need to win our last remaining 3 games and at least a win or 2 in the BT tourney to go to the Dance
> 
> I put the odds at no better than 1 in 5 and that may be stretching it. 
> Beating PSU tonight is very do-able but can't be taken for granted.  
> 
> Beating OSU is a long shot but given our up and down season, it's possible if we get hot,make few mistakes, and catch the Bucks sleeping.  And beating the Bucks,should we be so fortunate, would likely be remembered by the Selection Committee
> 
> So I for one will be rooting hard tonight  and retain some faint hope for us 
> 
> Harry
> Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry
> 
> _______________________________________________
> nwu-sports site list
> nwu-sports at tssi.com
> http://romaine.tssi.com/mailman/listinfo/nwu-sports
> 


Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry

From aaronsament at gmail.com  Sat Feb 25 16:17:55 2012
From: aaronsament at gmail.com (Aaron Ament)
Date: Sat, 25 Feb 2012 17:17:55 -0500
Subject: [NU Sports] Hoops
In-Reply-To: <1163423646-1330205452-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-154944786-@b11.c7.bise6.blackberry>
References: <1163423646-1330205452-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-154944786-@b11.c7.bise6.blackberry>
Message-ID: <B50C23FD-4443-4A85-966F-7B0E776ED197@gmail.com>

ESPN is projecting us in the tournament right now.  Lunardi still lists us as one of the last four teams in...



On Feb 25, 2012, at 4:21 PM, hakirsch at aol.com wrote:

> You are right that we first need to get past tonight.  But I wanted to provide an incentive for us listers to still care about tonight. By stating some argument that  we still have a prayer at the Dance hopefully gives us a reason to watch and root the Cats on 
> 
> Harry
> ------Original Message------
> From: Beamsley, Jeff
> To: Harry
> Cc: nwu-sports at tssi.com
> Subject: Re: [NU Sports] Hoops
> Sent: Feb 25, 2012 12:42 PM
> 
> Let's get past tonight. 
> 
> I don't think we have to go 3-0, but we have to beat PSU and those pesky hogeyes ( who have been playing well). 
> 
> Jeff
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
> On Feb 25, 2012, at 10:55 AM, "hakirsch at aol.com" <hakirsch at aol.com> wrote:
> 
>> Starting to night we need to win our last remaining 3 games and at least a win or 2 in the BT tourney to go to the Dance
>> 
>> I put the odds at no better than 1 in 5 and that may be stretching it. 
>> Beating PSU tonight is very do-able but can't be taken for granted.  
>> 
>> Beating OSU is a long shot but given our up and down season, it's possible if we get hot,make few mistakes, and catch the Bucks sleeping.  And beating the Bucks,should we be so fortunate, would likely be remembered by the Selection Committee
>> 
>> So I for one will be rooting hard tonight  and retain some faint hope for us 
>> 
>> Harry
>> Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry
>> 
>> _______________________________________________
>> nwu-sports site list
>> nwu-sports at tssi.com
>> http://romaine.tssi.com/mailman/listinfo/nwu-sports
>> 
> 
> 
> Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry
> _______________________________________________
> nwu-sports site list
> nwu-sports at tssi.com
> http://romaine.tssi.com/mailman/listinfo/nwu-sports


From Jeff.Beamsley at covisint.com  Sat Feb 25 16:26:17 2012
From: Jeff.Beamsley at covisint.com (Beamsley, Jeff)
Date: Sat, 25 Feb 2012 17:26:17 -0500
Subject: [NU Sports] Hoops
In-Reply-To: <1163423646-1330205452-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-154944786-@b11.c7.bise6.blackberry>
References: <1163423646-1330205452-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-154944786-@b11.c7.bise6.blackberry>
Message-ID: <50185C86-2FAE-4C83-974C-D1263631B2AC@covisint.com>

Harry. 

I've thought all along that we have a legit shot at 8-10 in the conference. 

We just have to take care of business tonight.

Jeff 

Sent from my iPhone

On Feb 25, 2012, at 4:31 PM, "hakirsch at aol.com" <hakirsch at aol.com> wrote:

> You are right that we first need to get past tonight.  But I wanted to provide an incentive for us listers to still care about tonight. By stating some argument that  we still have a prayer at the Dance hopefully gives us a reason to watch and root the Cats on 
> 
> Harry
> ------Original Message------
> From: Beamsley, Jeff
> To: Harry
> Cc: nwu-sports at tssi.com
> Subject: Re: [NU Sports] Hoops
> Sent: Feb 25, 2012 12:42 PM
> 
> Let's get past tonight. 
> 
> I don't think we have to go 3-0, but we have to beat PSU and those pesky hogeyes ( who have been playing well). 
> 
> Jeff
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
> On Feb 25, 2012, at 10:55 AM, "hakirsch at aol.com" <hakirsch at aol.com> wrote:
> 
>> Starting to night we need to win our last remaining 3 games and at least a win or 2 in the BT tourney to go to the Dance
>> 
>> I put the odds at no better than 1 in 5 and that may be stretching it. 
>> Beating PSU tonight is very do-able but can't be taken for granted.  
>> 
>> Beating OSU is a long shot but given our up and down season, it's possible if we get hot,make few mistakes, and catch the Bucks sleeping.  And beating the Bucks,should we be so fortunate, would likely be remembered by the Selection Committee
>> 
>> So I for one will be rooting hard tonight  and retain some faint hope for us 
>> 
>> Harry
>> Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry
>> 
>> _______________________________________________
>> nwu-sports site list
>> nwu-sports at tssi.com
>> http://romaine.tssi.com/mailman/listinfo/nwu-sports
>> 
> 
> 
> Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry


From rstetson at capps-assoc.com  Sat Feb 25 20:59:39 2012
From: rstetson at capps-assoc.com (Roy S. Lamberton)
Date: Sat, 25 Feb 2012 21:59:39 -0500
Subject: [NU Sports] Well, we're ahead
Message-ID: <000001ccf432$aff2d150$0fd873f0$@com>

But we have 6 TO's in the first half leading to 10 pts for State Penn.

And they are scoring inside (what's new) and Shurna missed 2 FT's.

However, we are up by 6 at the break. Sobo leads the scoring with 8, Shurna and Crawford
have 7 pts each.

Go Cats!

rsl

+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
Opinions expressed above are mine alone and are not
those of any organizations of which I am a member.
+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
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Computer Applications & Support Associates
Coach Roy's Random Thoughts - http://coachroy.org
--------------------- Also ----------------------
"Commissioner" Delaware American Legion Baseball
Director Media Relations - Little League 
  Senior League Softball World Series
CTR2 USN (67-70) - CTRCS USNR (Ret) (64-67/70-95)
Northwestern University - Speech 1974 - 
Chi Phi: Pi 1974, KD 1968
Publisher Emeritus: Purple Reign (Fox Sports)
=================================================
There is nothing wrong with America that the faith, 
love of freedom, intelligence and energy of her citizens 
cannot cure - Dwight D. Eisenhower
=  =  =  =  =  =  =  =  =  =  =  =  =  =  =  =  =
If we become a country in which we say, 'Please, 
tell me how to live,' We're Doomed!"
                   -- Pete Hamill, "Prohibition"
===========  Go Cats -? Beat 'em All  ===========




From Willie.Weinbaum at espn.com  Sat Feb 25 21:04:16 2012
From: Willie.Weinbaum at espn.com (Weinbaum, Willie)
Date: Sat, 25 Feb 2012 22:04:16 -0500
Subject: [NU Sports] First half
Message-ID: <1F89BB2CE7A5B94D969618E8CC769CC30147A02CA0@XCHGBRS4.corp.espn.pvt>

Brutal start for Cats - poor shooting, turnovers, slow to the ball off boards and on defense.  But NU turned it around, in large part due to Sobolewski's aggressiveness on offense...and it was encouraging to see six of the seven guys get into scoring column, concluding with Cobb hitting a biggie.  If he can shake the rust off and find his shot and rhythm on offense, the Cats will improve a lot.  Nice turnaround to go from down eight to up six (and there were opportunities to lead by more).  Sobo/Shurna/Crawford lead way and a strong second half will be needed to put away PSU, which is definitely capable of better play.

From rstetson at capps-assoc.com  Sat Feb 25 21:32:51 2012
From: rstetson at capps-assoc.com (Roy S. Lamberton)
Date: Sat, 25 Feb 2012 22:32:51 -0500
Subject: [NU Sports] Gotta make the bunnies!
Message-ID: <000101ccf437$52f02430$f8d06c90$@com>

'cause they're covering outside right now.

rsl

+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
Opinions expressed above are mine alone and are not
those of any organizations of which I am a member.
+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
Roy S. Lamberton - Senior Associate.
Computer Applications & Support Associates
Coach Roy's Random Thoughts - http://coachroy.org
--------------------- Also ----------------------
"Commissioner" Delaware American Legion Baseball
Director Media Relations - Little League 
  Senior League Softball World Series
CTR2 USN (67-70) - CTRCS USNR (Ret) (64-67/70-95)
Northwestern University - Speech 1974 - 
Chi Phi: Pi 1974, KD 1968
Publisher Emeritus: Purple Reign (Fox Sports)
=================================================
There is nothing wrong with America that the faith, 
love of freedom, intelligence and energy of her citizens 
cannot cure - Dwight D. Eisenhower
=  =  =  =  =  =  =  =  =  =  =  =  =  =  =  =  =
If we become a country in which we say, 'Please, 
tell me how to live,' We're Doomed!"
                   -- Pete Hamill, "Prohibition"
===========  Go Cats -? Beat 'em All  ===========





From neonrye at aol.com  Sat Feb 25 21:40:17 2012
From: neonrye at aol.com (neonrye at aol.com)
Date: Sun, 26 Feb 2012 03:40:17 +0000
Subject: [NU Sports] First half
Message-ID: <1966118681-1330227645-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-222423853-@b5.c19.bise6.blackberry>

Can we play any defense here???
------Original Message------
From: Willie Weinbaum
Sender: nwu-sports-bounces at tssi.com
To: 'nwu-sports at tssi.com'
Subject: [NU Sports] First half
Sent: Feb 25, 2012 10:04 PM

Brutal start for Cats - poor shooting, turnovers, slow to the ball off boards and on defense.  But NU turned it around, in large part due to Sobolewski's aggressiveness on offense...and it was encouraging to see six of the seven guys get into scoring column, concluding with Cobb hitting a biggie.  If he can shake the rust off and find his shot and rhythm on offense, the Cats will improve a lot.  Nice turnaround to go from down eight to up six (and there were opportunities to lead by more).  Sobo/Shurna/Crawford lead way and a strong second half will be needed to put away PSU, which is definitely capable of better play.
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From rstetson at capps-assoc.com  Sat Feb 25 21:59:25 2012
From: rstetson at capps-assoc.com (Roy S. Lamberton)
Date: Sat, 25 Feb 2012 22:59:25 -0500
Subject: [NU Sports] whew!
Message-ID: <000201ccf43b$086e35b0$194aa110$@com>

Don't know why we can't make layups all of a sudden - but at least Shurna made his last 2
FT's

rsl

+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
Opinions expressed above are mine alone and are not
those of any organizations of which I am a member.
+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
Roy S. Lamberton - Senior Associate.
Computer Applications & Support Associates
Coach Roy's Random Thoughts - http://coachroy.org
--------------------- Also ----------------------
"Commissioner" Delaware American Legion Baseball
Director Media Relations - Little League 
  Senior League Softball World Series
CTR2 USN (67-70) - CTRCS USNR (Ret) (64-67/70-95)
Northwestern University - Speech 1974 - 
Chi Phi: Pi 1974, KD 1968
Publisher Emeritus: Purple Reign (Fox Sports)
=================================================
There is nothing wrong with America that the faith, 
love of freedom, intelligence and energy of her citizens 
cannot cure - Dwight D. Eisenhower
=  =  =  =  =  =  =  =  =  =  =  =  =  =  =  =  =
If we become a country in which we say, 'Please, 
tell me how to live,' We're Doomed!"
                   -- Pete Hamill, "Prohibition"
===========  Go Cats -? Beat 'em All  ===========





From Jeff.Beamsley at covisint.com  Sat Feb 25 22:04:25 2012
From: Jeff.Beamsley at covisint.com (Beamsley, Jeff)
Date: Sat, 25 Feb 2012 23:04:25 -0500
Subject: [NU Sports] I believe
Message-ID: <809CBCB1-EAF7-497D-B113-8DC1FAC85143@covisint.com>

!!!!!

Jeff

Sent from my iPhone


From Willie.Weinbaum at espn.com  Sat Feb 25 22:05:16 2012
From: Willie.Weinbaum at espn.com (Weinbaum, Willie)
Date: Sat, 25 Feb 2012 23:05:16 -0500
Subject: [NU Sports] As Shon Morris would say
In-Reply-To: <1F89BB2CE7A5B94D969618E8CC769CC30147A02CA0@XCHGBRS4.corp.espn.pvt>
Message-ID: <1F89BB2CE7A5B94D969618E8CC769CC30147A02CAA@XCHGBRS4.corp.espn.pvt>

"Very fortunate."

Cats played thoroughly ineffectual defense, allowing PSU to repeatedly score inside with ease.  

Without Marcotullio hitting four treys and the whole team having a hot night from distance...

And the Cats getting two FT misses by PSU with :14 left and a questionable foul call on a Shurna miss against a double team with :2+ left, NU would've lost the game and seen its season disintegrate (and after the telecast kept trumpeting NU's great NCAA tourney qualifications :)).

Carmody gets his first win ever @ PSU.  Cats win a close one on the road.

Two more regular season games and conference tourney left.  

Again, "very fortunate."


----- Original Message -----
From: Weinbaum, Willie [mailto:Willie.Weinbaum at espn.com]
Sent: Saturday, February 25, 2012 10:04 PM
To: 'nwu-sports at tssi.com' <nwu-sports at tssi.com>
Subject: [NU Sports] First half

Brutal start for Cats - poor shooting, turnovers, slow to the ball off boards and on defense.  But NU turned it around, in large part due to Sobolewski's aggressiveness on offense...and it was encouraging to see six of the seven guys get into scoring column, concluding with Cobb hitting a biggie.  If he can shake the rust off and find his shot and rhythm on offense, the Cats will improve a lot.  Nice turnaround to go from down eight to up six (and there were opportunities to lead by more).  Sobo/Shurna/Crawford lead way and a strong second half will be needed to put away PSU, which is definitely capable of better play.
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From alan.abrahamson at gmail.com  Sat Feb 25 22:10:02 2012
From: alan.abrahamson at gmail.com (Alan Abrahamson)
Date: Sat, 25 Feb 2012 20:10:02 -0800
Subject: [NU Sports] I believe
In-Reply-To: <809CBCB1-EAF7-497D-B113-8DC1FAC85143@covisint.com>
References: <809CBCB1-EAF7-497D-B113-8DC1FAC85143@covisint.com>
Message-ID: <CAN7senjZpj8yaLAEvFJTREMAGe+nqEXPHzu2NApG6wHZioKKDw@mail.gmail.com>

We had a family birthday party at my house tonight. 20 people. Me and all
my in-laws. Laura and I have been married for 20 years, and my Wildcat fan
freakiness is well known to my in-laws. Everyone erupted in a big roar when
Shurna made the two FTs.



On Sat, Feb 25, 2012 at 8:04 PM, Beamsley, Jeff
<Jeff.Beamsley at covisint.com>wrote:

> !!!!!
>
> Jeff
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
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From neonrye at aol.com  Sat Feb 25 22:12:47 2012
From: neonrye at aol.com (neonrye at aol.com)
Date: Sun, 26 Feb 2012 04:12:47 +0000
Subject: [NU Sports] As Shon Morris would say
In-Reply-To: <1F89BB2CE7A5B94D969618E8CC769CC30147A02CAA@XCHGBRS4.corp.espn.pvt>
References: <1F89BB2CE7A5B94D969618E8CC769CC30147A02CA0@XCHGBRS4.corp.espn.pvt>
 <1F89BB2CE7A5B94D969618E8CC769CC30147A02CAA@XCHGBRS4.corp.espn.pvt>
Message-ID: <396449361-1330229596-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-597997579-@b5.c19.bise6.blackberry>

We were due to have one fall our way.
Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry

-----Original Message-----
From: "Weinbaum, Willie" <Willie.Weinbaum at espn.com>
Sender: nwu-sports-bounces at tssi.com
Date: Sat, 25 Feb 2012 23:05:16 
To: 'nwu-sports at tssi.com'<nwu-sports at tssi.com>
Subject: [NU Sports] As Shon Morris would say

"Very fortunate."

Cats played thoroughly ineffectual defense, allowing PSU to repeatedly score inside with ease.  

Without Marcotullio hitting four treys and the whole team having a hot night from distance...

And the Cats getting two FT misses by PSU with :14 left and a questionable foul call on a Shurna miss against a double team with :2+ left, NU would've lost the game and seen its season disintegrate (and after the telecast kept trumpeting NU's great NCAA tourney qualifications :)).

Carmody gets his first win ever @ PSU.  Cats win a close one on the road.

Two more regular season games and conference tourney left.  

Again, "very fortunate."


----- Original Message -----
From: Weinbaum, Willie [mailto:Willie.Weinbaum at espn.com]
Sent: Saturday, February 25, 2012 10:04 PM
To: 'nwu-sports at tssi.com' <nwu-sports at tssi.com>
Subject: [NU Sports] First half

Brutal start for Cats - poor shooting, turnovers, slow to the ball off boards and on defense.  But NU turned it around, in large part due to Sobolewski's aggressiveness on offense...and it was encouraging to see six of the seven guys get into scoring column, concluding with Cobb hitting a biggie.  If he can shake the rust off and find his shot and rhythm on offense, the Cats will improve a lot.  Nice turnaround to go from down eight to up six (and there were opportunities to lead by more).  Sobo/Shurna/Crawford lead way and a strong second half will be needed to put away PSU, which is definitely capable of better play.
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From Jeff.Beamsley at covisint.com  Sat Feb 25 22:35:32 2012
From: Jeff.Beamsley at covisint.com (Beamsley, Jeff)
Date: Sat, 25 Feb 2012 23:35:32 -0500
Subject: [NU Sports] I believe
In-Reply-To: <CAN7senjZpj8yaLAEvFJTREMAGe+nqEXPHzu2NApG6wHZioKKDw@mail.gmail.com>
References: <809CBCB1-EAF7-497D-B113-8DC1FAC85143@covisint.com>
 <CAN7senjZpj8yaLAEvFJTREMAGe+nqEXPHzu2NApG6wHZioKKDw@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <29EA87BB-98D2-415D-A3B2-7335193CF05F@covisint.com>

I didn't have 20 people over, but I think I woke up the neighbors when Shurna sunk that second free throw. 

The announcers said this would be a dangerous team in both the BT playoffs and the tourney. 

Regardless, this game was a big step in Shurna's growth as "the man". 

Another black shirt win on the road. 

Now we need Illinois to come back from the dead long enough to beat Ioway. 

Jeff

Sent from my iPhone

On Feb 25, 2012, at 11:10 PM, "Alan Abrahamson" <alan.abrahamson at gmail.com> wrote:

> We had a family birthday party at my house tonight. 20 people. Me and all my in-laws. Laura and I have been married for 20 years, and my Wildcat fan freakiness is well known to my in-laws. Everyone erupted in a big roar when Shurna made the two FTs. 
> 
> 
> 
> On Sat, Feb 25, 2012 at 8:04 PM, Beamsley, Jeff <Jeff.Beamsley at covisint.com> wrote:
> !!!!!
> 
> Jeff
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
> _______________________________________________
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> nwu-sports at tssi.com
> http://romaine.tssi.com/mailman/listinfo/nwu-sports
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From tbng at comcast.net  Sun Feb 26 00:53:22 2012
From: tbng at comcast.net (Dennis W. Brandt)
Date: Sun, 26 Feb 2012 01:53:22 -0500
Subject: [NU Sports] Fortune smiles
Message-ID: <144D608DE5C14152B1C97BD3EC1B7C59@dennismachine>

They were fortunate tonight.  Very, very fortunate.

From rstetson at capps-assoc.com  Sun Feb 26 01:38:34 2012
From: rstetson at capps-assoc.com (Roy S. Lamberton)
Date: Sun, 26 Feb 2012 02:38:34 -0500
Subject: [NU Sports] I believe
In-Reply-To: <29EA87BB-98D2-415D-A3B2-7335193CF05F@covisint.com>
References: <809CBCB1-EAF7-497D-B113-8DC1FAC85143@covisint.com>
 <CAN7senjZpj8yaLAEvFJTREMAGe+nqEXPHzu2NApG6wHZioKKDw@mail.gmail.com>
 <29EA87BB-98D2-415D-A3B2-7335193CF05F@covisint.com>
Message-ID: <000301ccf459$a5dad330$f1907990$@com>

Personally, I think we just need to beat Ioway, and putting a big scare into duhBucks
would be good too.

rsl

+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
Opinions expressed above are mine alone and are not
those of any organizations of which I am a member.
+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
Roy S. Lamberton - Senior Associate.
Computer Applications & Support Associates
Coach Roy's Random Thoughts - http://coachroy.org
--------------------- Also ----------------------
"Commissioner" Delaware American Legion Baseball
Director Media Relations - Little League 
  Senior League Softball World Series
CTR2 USN (67-70) - CTRCS USNR (Ret) (64-67/70-95)
Northwestern University - Speech 1974 - 
Chi Phi: Pi 1974, KD 1968
Publisher Emeritus: Purple Reign (Fox Sports)
=================================================
There is nothing wrong with America that the faith, 
love of freedom, intelligence and energy of her citizens 
cannot cure - Dwight D. Eisenhower
=  =  =  =  =  =  =  =  =  =  =  =  =  =  =  =  =
If we become a country in which we say, 'Please, 
tell me how to live,' We're Doomed!"
                   -- Pete Hamill, "Prohibition"
===========  Go Cats -? Beat 'em All  ===========

Now we need Illinois to come back from the dead long enough to beat Ioway. 

Jeff



From Jeff.Beamsley at covisint.com  Sun Feb 26 06:44:01 2012
From: Jeff.Beamsley at covisint.com (Beamsley, Jeff)
Date: Sun, 26 Feb 2012 07:44:01 -0500
Subject: [NU Sports] I believe
In-Reply-To: <000301ccf459$a5dad330$f1907990$@com>
References: <809CBCB1-EAF7-497D-B113-8DC1FAC85143@covisint.com>
 <CAN7senjZpj8yaLAEvFJTREMAGe+nqEXPHzu2NApG6wHZioKKDw@mail.gmail.com>
 <29EA87BB-98D2-415D-A3B2-7335193CF05F@covisint.com>
 <000301ccf459$a5dad330$f1907990$@com>
Message-ID: <94441E52-9E0A-4F3C-879A-D4C272CC0E52@covisint.com>

I agree of course. 

Iowa is also making a good end of season run.  A loss to Illinois will pretty much dash those hopes and perhaps give is a little easier game. 

Jeff

Sent from my iPhone

On Feb 26, 2012, at 2:40 AM, "Roy S. Lamberton" <rstetson at capps-assoc.com> wrote:

> Personally, I think we just need to beat Ioway, and putting a big scare into duhBucks
> would be good too.
> 
> rsl
> 
> +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
> Opinions expressed above are mine alone and are not
> those of any organizations of which I am a member.
> +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
> Roy S. Lamberton - Senior Associate.
> Computer Applications & Support Associates
> Coach Roy's Random Thoughts - http://coachroy.org
> --------------------- Also ----------------------
> "Commissioner" Delaware American Legion Baseball
> Director Media Relations - Little League 
>  Senior League Softball World Series
> CTR2 USN (67-70) - CTRCS USNR (Ret) (64-67/70-95)
> Northwestern University - Speech 1974 - 
> Chi Phi: Pi 1974, KD 1968
> Publisher Emeritus: Purple Reign (Fox Sports)
> =================================================
> There is nothing wrong with America that the faith, 
> love of freedom, intelligence and energy of her citizens 
> cannot cure - Dwight D. Eisenhower
> =  =  =  =  =  =  =  =  =  =  =  =  =  =  =  =  =
> If we become a country in which we say, 'Please, 
> tell me how to live,' We're Doomed!"
>                   -- Pete Hamill, "Prohibition"
> ===========  Go Cats -  Beat 'em All  ===========
> 
> Now we need Illinois to come back from the dead long enough to beat Ioway. 
> 
> Jeff
> 


From thehaze at earthlink.net  Sun Feb 26 15:04:47 2012
From: thehaze at earthlink.net (Marilyn Bendat)
Date: Sun, 26 Feb 2012 13:04:47 -0800 (GMT-08:00)
Subject: [NU Sports] I believe
Message-ID: <22440705.1330290287951.JavaMail.root@wamui-bucket.atl.sa.earthlink.net>

Alan, if we make the NCAA tournament and our first game is in your native city of Dayton, will you be there? Or, better yet, will be there regardless of where we play?!

-----Original Message-----
>From: Alan Abrahamson <alan.abrahamson at gmail.com>
>Sent: Feb 25, 2012 8:10 PM
>To: "Beamsley, Jeff" <Jeff.Beamsley at covisint.com>
>Cc: NU Sports List <nwu-sports at tssi.com>
>Subject: Re: [NU Sports] I believe
>
>We had a family birthday party at my house tonight. 20 people. Me and all
>my in-laws. Laura and I have been married for 20 years, and my Wildcat fan
>freakiness is well known to my in-laws. Everyone erupted in a big roar when
>Shurna made the two FTs.
>
>
>
>On Sat, Feb 25, 2012 at 8:04 PM, Beamsley, Jeff
><Jeff.Beamsley at covisint.com>wrote:
>
>> !!!!!
>>
>> Jeff
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>> _______________________________________________
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>> nwu-sports at tssi.com
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From alan.abrahamson at gmail.com  Sun Feb 26 15:33:31 2012
From: alan.abrahamson at gmail.com (Alan Abrahamson)
Date: Sun, 26 Feb 2012 13:33:31 -0800
Subject: [NU Sports] I believe
In-Reply-To: <22440705.1330290287951.JavaMail.root@wamui-bucket.atl.sa.earthlink.net>
References: <22440705.1330290287951.JavaMail.root@wamui-bucket.atl.sa.earthlink.net>
Message-ID: <CAN7sengNGWzO4FyfjSVuGv=G2Lbg7GKAmZD-RJ2c17h5Hc7pyA@mail.gmail.com>

I was just talking with another Northwestern friend about this very thing
earlier this morning.

Indeed, I was born and raised in Dayton. (Yikes! As I like to say -- not my
fault!)

For those of you who might be thinking about descending on the Gem City,
the best place in town to eat is called the Pine Club. It actually is
fantastic. (No kidding.) Link: http://thepineclub.com/

Cassano's Pizza is really good. There are outlets around town:
http://www.cassanos.com/

The University of Dayton Arena is a remarkably okay basketball venue. The
Flyers (1967 NCAA runners-up) are a team that is consistently to be
reckoned with.

If you fly to Cincinnati, the airport is in northern Kentucky; Dayton is
about 70 miles from there.

The Dayton airport is amazingly big. Aviation is a huge deal in Dayton.
That's because the Wright Brothers are from there and Wright-Patterson Air
Force Base is in Dayton. My advice would be to fly to Chicago, connect
there and fly straight to Dayton.

If you're driving from Chicago, it's five hours down I-65 to I-70.

The best place to stay in town is the Marriott by the Arena. Though I'm
sure all the rooms will be booked by the NCAA.

I-70 and I-75 criss-cross in Dayton. There are a million hotel rooms. It
won't be a problem to find a place to stay.

For those of you going, the tourist attraction in town is the
Wright-Patterson Air Force Base museum: http://www.nationalmuseum.af.mil/.
It is, truthfully, pretty cool.

Columbus is 70 miles east. Indianapolis 110 miles west. Cincinnati, as I
said, is 50 miles south (and the airport in Kentucky just across the Ohio
River, etc.)

If anyone wants more info, feel free to email me directly or we can have a
list-wide conversation all about Dayton! Let's hope this all comes to pass
...

Go Cats!





On Sun, Feb 26, 2012 at 1:04 PM, Marilyn Bendat <thehaze at earthlink.net>wrote:

> Alan, if we make the NCAA tournament and our first game is in your native
> city of Dayton, will you be there? Or, better yet, will be there regardless
> of where we play?!
>
> -----Original Message-----
> >From: Alan Abrahamson <alan.abrahamson at gmail.com>
> >Sent: Feb 25, 2012 8:10 PM
> >To: "Beamsley, Jeff" <Jeff.Beamsley at covisint.com>
> >Cc: NU Sports List <nwu-sports at tssi.com>
> >Subject: Re: [NU Sports] I believe
> >
> >We had a family birthday party at my house tonight. 20 people. Me and all
> >my in-laws. Laura and I have been married for 20 years, and my Wildcat fan
> >freakiness is well known to my in-laws. Everyone erupted in a big roar
> when
> >Shurna made the two FTs.
> >
> >
> >
> >On Sat, Feb 25, 2012 at 8:04 PM, Beamsley, Jeff
> ><Jeff.Beamsley at covisint.com>wrote:
> >
> >> !!!!!
> >>
> >> Jeff
> >>
> >> Sent from my iPhone
> >>
> >> _______________________________________________
> >> nwu-sports site list
> >> nwu-sports at tssi.com
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>
>

From Jeff.Beamsley at covisint.com  Sun Feb 26 15:36:14 2012
From: Jeff.Beamsley at covisint.com (Beamsley, Jeff)
Date: Sun, 26 Feb 2012 16:36:14 -0500
Subject: [NU Sports] I believe
References: <22440705.1330290287951.JavaMail.root@wamui-bucket.atl.sa.earthlink.net>
 <CAN7sengNGWzO4FyfjSVuGv=G2Lbg7GKAmZD-RJ2c17h5Hc7pyA@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <37BBE4FEDCA6A1479A65BA8A020B14BC144A88@nasa-dtw-ex006.nasa.cpwr.corp>

It's also about three hours down I-75 from my little town of Monroe, Michigan.
 
If this is the location of our first ever game in the NCAA tournament, I'll be there.
 
Jeff
 

________________________________

From: nwu-sports-bounces at tssi.com on behalf of Alan Abrahamson
Sent: Sun 2/26/2012 4:33 PM
To: Marilyn Bendat; Northwestern Wildcats
Subject: Re: [NU Sports] I believe



I was just talking with another Northwestern friend about this very thing
earlier this morning.

Indeed, I was born and raised in Dayton. (Yikes! As I like to say -- not my
fault!)

For those of you who might be thinking about descending on the Gem City,
the best place in town to eat is called the Pine Club. It actually is
fantastic. (No kidding.) Link: http://thepineclub.com/

Cassano's Pizza is really good. There are outlets around town:
http://www.cassanos.com/

The University of Dayton Arena is a remarkably okay basketball venue. The
Flyers (1967 NCAA runners-up) are a team that is consistently to be
reckoned with.

If you fly to Cincinnati, the airport is in northern Kentucky; Dayton is
about 70 miles from there.

The Dayton airport is amazingly big. Aviation is a huge deal in Dayton.
That's because the Wright Brothers are from there and Wright-Patterson Air
Force Base is in Dayton. My advice would be to fly to Chicago, connect
there and fly straight to Dayton.

If you're driving from Chicago, it's five hours down I-65 to I-70.

The best place to stay in town is the Marriott by the Arena. Though I'm
sure all the rooms will be booked by the NCAA.

I-70 and I-75 criss-cross in Dayton. There are a million hotel rooms. It
won't be a problem to find a place to stay.

For those of you going, the tourist attraction in town is the
Wright-Patterson Air Force Base museum: http://www.nationalmuseum.af.mil/.
It is, truthfully, pretty cool.

Columbus is 70 miles east. Indianapolis 110 miles west. Cincinnati, as I
said, is 50 miles south (and the airport in Kentucky just across the Ohio
River, etc.)

If anyone wants more info, feel free to email me directly or we can have a
list-wide conversation all about Dayton! Let's hope this all comes to pass
...

Go Cats!





On Sun, Feb 26, 2012 at 1:04 PM, Marilyn Bendat <thehaze at earthlink.net>wrote:

> Alan, if we make the NCAA tournament and our first game is in your native
> city of Dayton, will you be there? Or, better yet, will be there regardless
> of where we play?!
>
> -----Original Message-----
> >From: Alan Abrahamson <alan.abrahamson at gmail.com>
> >Sent: Feb 25, 2012 8:10 PM
> >To: "Beamsley, Jeff" <Jeff.Beamsley at covisint.com>
> >Cc: NU Sports List <nwu-sports at tssi.com>
> >Subject: Re: [NU Sports] I believe
> >
> >We had a family birthday party at my house tonight. 20 people. Me and all
> >my in-laws. Laura and I have been married for 20 years, and my Wildcat fan
> >freakiness is well known to my in-laws. Everyone erupted in a big roar
> when
> >Shurna made the two FTs.
> >
> >
> >
> >On Sat, Feb 25, 2012 at 8:04 PM, Beamsley, Jeff
> ><Jeff.Beamsley at covisint.com>wrote:
> >
> >> !!!!!
> >>
> >> Jeff
> >>
> >> Sent from my iPhone
> >>
> >> _______________________________________________
> >> nwu-sports site list
> >> nwu-sports at tssi.com
> >> http://romaine.tssi.com/mailman/listinfo/nwu-sports
> >>
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From Jeff.Beamsley at covisint.com  Sun Feb 26 16:11:25 2012
From: Jeff.Beamsley at covisint.com (Beamsley, Jeff)
Date: Sun, 26 Feb 2012 17:11:25 -0500
Subject: [NU Sports] Football Rule changes for 2012
References: <20120224195437.D2E376556E@romaine.tssi.com><3F635B537CF24327A7E2321FFF9DA3F2@dennismachine><1740179976-1330117784-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-2049791510-@b11.c7.bise6.blackberry><CAAxRJu7XCWSoM4sf57qpSzabxzMX2Ux5qinP5oVJZdfLgonkyg@mail.gmail.com><1302392800-1330118046-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-1967121655-@b11.c7.bise6.blackberry>
 <207532ED3794457597D25969856859AA@dennismachine>
 <8CEC19A9FB9BC83-C94-7317@webmail-m019.sysops.aol.com>
Message-ID: <37BBE4FEDCA6A1479A65BA8A020B14BC144A87@nasa-dtw-ex006.nasa.cpwr.corp>

This may come down to where you sit on the political spectrum, and that's not what this list is about.
 
Still I do want to be honest and confess that I am conflicted.
 
The way the game is played today, we are creating a generation of kids who are putting their mental health at risk playing what should be a game.
 
A college chum of my oldest son graduated with a BSME from UoM.  His first job was with a sports equipment start-up working on the problem of concusions.  They had come up with an inexpensive device which could provide information about the type of accellerations that were likely to cause some brain trauma.  The start-up failed, not because they couldn't deliver a reliable product at a good price, but because nobody wanted to know and as a result nobody wanted to buy.
 
That seems to be the place we are at today.  We don't want to know how wide spread the problem is, because we fear that it might affect a game that we enjoy.
 
This is certainly a problem that we fans can ignore.  We can also say that this is a risk that kids take, so we shouldn't worry about it.  Or we can wander off into the political arguments about the intrusion of government and the growth of the nanny-state.
 
The data is distrubing.  34% of college football players admit to having at least one concussion.  20% admit to having multiple concussions.  The other things that we know is that once you have had a concussion, you are much more vulnerable to another.  We also have plenty of examples of athletes whose careers where ended by concussions (Steve Young) or whose life after football were affected by the brain damage they received during their playing days (Dave Duerson).  
 
We have better protocols these days for handling those who are obviously injured.  That's good.
 
We need better data and monitoring for all those who play the game, not just those who display obvious symptoms, in order to determine how big a problem this really is.
 
We also may need to think about changes in the game which could reduce the potential of brain injury.
 
I came across this Time article from a couple of years ago which suggests some fundamental changes in tackling technique based on experience in Rugby.  
 
http://www.time.com/time/nation/article/0,8599,2027053,00.html
 
The biggest change, however, has to come from us the fans.
 
I think that it is time to acknowledge that there is a problem and that something needs to be done about it.
 
If we continue to ignore the problem, football could easily go the way of boxing and become a mainly pro sport where the risks are well known and significant, and only those who have few other choices choose to participate.
 
Jeff
 

________________________________

From: nwu-sports-bounces at tssi.com on behalf of Eric Kunkel
Sent: Sat 2/25/2012 1:05 AM
To: tbng at comcast.net; nwu-sports at tssi.com
Subject: Re: [NU Sports] Football Rule changes for 2012



Hell Yes.  Brad Phillips knocking Io-a running back Greene into yesterday was lovely.  Seeing Louis Ayeni drill any thing that moved was also high on my list. Chris Spielman has it right: a slobber knocker is a beautiful thing.  GO CATS!!    Eric



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We train football players to have prodigious strength, to maximize speed and
uickness, to hit with the force of a truck, and then pass rules to subdue that
ower.  Anyone see a contradiction there?
Some rule changes have made sense, such as disallowing - even disqualifying (and
ining) - any player who deliberately uses his helment as a weapon and keeping
layers with concussion symptoms out of the game.  But don't expect to eliminate
ignificantly helmet-to-helmet contact, broken ribs, or knees being snapped into
selessness.  With powerful, athletic guys flying around at awesome speed, it is
mpossible unless you want the NCAA to switch to flag football (although broken
ody parts are still possible even then).  And don't tell me you don't jump up
nd cheer when one of the boys in purple knocks an opponent into
emiconsciousness with a clean hit.
At what point to you destroy the game of football?  When do games become
onsumed with referees tossing yellow hankies and moving the ball back fifteen
ards?  Maybe JoePa was right and players should go back to wearing leather
elmets.  Then no one will lead with his head.
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From neonrye at aol.com  Sun Feb 26 17:02:36 2012
From: neonrye at aol.com (neonrye at aol.com)
Date: Sun, 26 Feb 2012 23:02:36 +0000
Subject: [NU Sports] I believe
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Well gang, we will get the Bucks off a tough loss at home to Bucky. Will they be angry or shaken?
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It's also about three hours down I-75 from my little town of Monroe, Michigan.
 
If this is the location of our first ever game in the NCAA tournament, I'll be there.
 
Jeff
 

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Sent: Sun 2/26/2012 4:33 PM
To: Marilyn Bendat; Northwestern Wildcats
Subject: Re: [NU Sports] I believe



I was just talking with another Northwestern friend about this very thing
earlier this morning.

Indeed, I was born and raised in Dayton. (Yikes! As I like to say -- not my
fault!)

For those of you who might be thinking about descending on the Gem City,
the best place in town to eat is called the Pine Club. It actually is
fantastic. (No kidding.) Link: http://thepineclub.com/

Cassano's Pizza is really good. There are outlets around town:
http://www.cassanos.com/

The University of Dayton Arena is a remarkably okay basketball venue. The
Flyers (1967 NCAA runners-up) are a team that is consistently to be
reckoned with.

If you fly to Cincinnati, the airport is in northern Kentucky; Dayton is
about 70 miles from there.

The Dayton airport is amazingly big. Aviation is a huge deal in Dayton.
That's because the Wright Brothers are from there and Wright-Patterson Air
Force Base is in Dayton. My advice would be to fly to Chicago, connect
there and fly straight to Dayton.

If you're driving from Chicago, it's five hours down I-65 to I-70.

The best place to stay in town is the Marriott by the Arena. Though I'm
sure all the rooms will be booked by the NCAA.

I-70 and I-75 criss-cross in Dayton. There are a million hotel rooms. It
won't be a problem to find a place to stay.

For those of you going, the tourist attraction in town is the
Wright-Patterson Air Force Base museum: http://www.nationalmuseum.af.mil/.
It is, truthfully, pretty cool.

Columbus is 70 miles east. Indianapolis 110 miles west. Cincinnati, as I
said, is 50 miles south (and the airport in Kentucky just across the Ohio
River, etc.)

If anyone wants more info, feel free to email me directly or we can have a
list-wide conversation all about Dayton! Let's hope this all comes to pass
...

Go Cats!





On Sun, Feb 26, 2012 at 1:04 PM, Marilyn Bendat <thehaze at earthlink.net>wrote:

> Alan, if we make the NCAA tournament and our first game is in your native
> city of Dayton, will you be there? Or, better yet, will be there regardless
> of where we play?!
>
> -----Original Message-----
> >From: Alan Abrahamson <alan.abrahamson at gmail.com>
> >Sent: Feb 25, 2012 8:10 PM
> >To: "Beamsley, Jeff" <Jeff.Beamsley at covisint.com>
> >Cc: NU Sports List <nwu-sports at tssi.com>
> >Subject: Re: [NU Sports] I believe
> >
> >We had a family birthday party at my house tonight. 20 people. Me and all
> >my in-laws. Laura and I have been married for 20 years, and my Wildcat fan
> >freakiness is well known to my in-laws. Everyone erupted in a big roar
> when
> >Shurna made the two FTs.
> >
> >
> >
> >On Sat, Feb 25, 2012 at 8:04 PM, Beamsley, Jeff
> ><Jeff.Beamsley at covisint.com>wrote:
> >
> >> !!!!!
> >>
> >> Jeff
> >>
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From tbng at comcast.net  Sun Feb 26 18:06:27 2012
From: tbng at comcast.net (Dennis W. Brandt)
Date: Sun, 26 Feb 2012 19:06:27 -0500
Subject: [NU Sports] Football Rule changes for 2012
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Re: [NU Sports] Football Rule changes for 2012<This may come down to where you sit on the political spectrum, and that's not what this list is about.

I haven't a clue as to what the subject of concussions has to do with politics.

<This is certainly a problem that we fans can ignore.  We can also say that this is a risk that kids take, so we shouldn't worry about it.  Or we can wander off into the political arguments about the intrusion of government and the growth of the nanny-state.

And good arguments they are - and not just about football.
  
< I think that it is time to acknowledge that there is a problem and that something needs to be done about it

Who doesn't acknowledge it?  The NFL has.  The NCAA has.  There has been major developments in helmet design.  There have been well publicized studies on the topic.  I have a friend, a doctor of psychology, who is heavily involved in researching the subject.  Football has made major rule changes that have largely eliminated the egregious hits such as Terry Bradshaw once endured.  But as I said previously, as long as you have powerful, strong, fast men racing around a field playing a game that by necessity requires brutal physical contact, injuries will occur.  Short of banning the game of football - and boxing and mixed martial arts and downhill skiing and hockey and auto racing etc. - or watering it down to flag football status, you can't stop injuries.

<If we continue to ignore the problem, football could easily go the way of boxing and become a mainly pro sport where the risks are well known and significant, and only those who have few other choices choose to participate.

Extremely doubtful the sport will fade.  And anyone going into the sport thinking that injury is unlikely will be convinced otherwise during their first practice in full pads.

From Jeff.Beamsley at covisint.com  Sun Feb 26 18:42:14 2012
From: Jeff.Beamsley at covisint.com (Beamsley, Jeff)
Date: Sun, 26 Feb 2012 19:42:14 -0500
Subject: [NU Sports] Football Rule changes for 2012
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I agree that injuries are part of any contact sport.
 
I also agree that anyone engaged in football at any level should be aware that contact could result in injury.
 
The difference here is that concusions are not nearly as obvious an injury as a busted ACL.  While it is possible in later life to have a full knee replacement, it is not possible to reverse the effects of repeated concusions.
 
Those of my generation or older (Clay-Liston) can remember when boxing WAS a widely televised national sport.  In 1960 the NCAA abruptly dropped college boxing after the death of Wisconsin boxer Doug Moe.
 
http://host.madison.com/wsj/news/local/doug_moe/article_4a56a5e8-012c-580d-bde9-21361d66b3a4.html
 
"Although college boxers wore head gear, used padded gloves and fought only three two-minute rounds, the sport had been attacked as barbaric and inappropriate for good universities. In 1959, Sports Illustrated ran a piece on the problems facing college boxing. It was titled "You could blame it on the moms.""

Moms could also easily rise up in opposition to their kids playing football if good data starts to suggest that brain injuries are a much higher risk than anyone thought.
 
It is great that people are starting to look at this.  We don't yet, however, have a good picture of what the risk really is.  Hopefully concern about the players will overwhelm any anxiety over what the real data is.
 
Jeff

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From: Dennis W. Brandt [mailto:tbng at comcast.net]
Sent: Sun 2/26/2012 7:06 PM
To: Beamsley, Jeff; Eric Kunkel; nwu-sports at tssi.com
Subject: Re: [NU Sports] Football Rule changes for 2012


<This may come down to where you sit on the political spectrum, and that's not what this list is about.
 
I haven't a clue as to what the subject of concussions has to do with politics.
 
<This is certainly a problem that we fans can ignore.  We can also say that this is a risk that kids take, so we shouldn't worry about it.  Or we can wander off into the political arguments about the intrusion of government and the growth of the nanny-state.
 
And good arguments they are - and not just about football.
  
< I think that it is time to acknowledge that there is a problem and that something needs to be done about it
 
Who doesn't acknowledge it?  The NFL has.  The NCAA has.  There has been major developments in helmet design.  There have been well publicized studies on the topic.  I have a friend, a doctor of psychology, who is heavily involved in researching the subject.  Football has made major rule changes that have largely eliminated the egregious hits such as Terry Bradshaw once endured.  But as I said previously, as long as you have powerful, strong, fast men racing around a field playing a game that by necessity requires brutal physical contact, injuries will occur.  Short of banning the game of football - and boxing and mixed martial arts and downhill skiing and hockey and auto racing etc. - or watering it down to flag football status, you can't stop injuries.
 
<If we continue to ignore the problem, football could easily go the way of boxing and become a mainly pro sport where the risks are well known and significant, and only those who have few other choices choose to participate.
 
Extremely doubtful the sport will fade.  And anyone going into the sport thinking that injury is unlikely will be convinced otherwise during their first practice in full pads.
 

From nolan at tssi.com  Sun Feb 26 19:02:08 2012
From: nolan at tssi.com (Mike Nolan)
Date: Sun, 26 Feb 2012 19:02:08 -0600 (CST)
Subject: [NU Sports] Football Rule changes for 2012
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> I think that it is time to acknowledge that there is a problem and that something needs to be done about it.

Things are being done, but whether that's sufficient is unclear.  Part of the problem is that the players
are bigger, stronger and faster than in the past.  The average weight of the OL at a major high school
is above what the average weight was for the OL at Northwestern when I was in college.  

It becomes a simple illustration of physics.  More mass at a higher velocity results in far greater
forces.  

That's why I favor the new rule regarding helmets that come off, players have been intentionally 
using looser straps, including tweaking the snaps so they pop off easier.  The helmet makers say that 
makes the helmets less effective.  This rule may convince the players to use those straps correctly.  
  
> If we continue to ignore the problem, football could easily go the way of boxing and become a mainly pro sport where the risks are well known and significant, and only those who have few other choices choose to participate.

If you think boxing is just a pro sport, you must not know anyone involved in amateur boxing.  

I know several former NFL players.  At least two of them would not let their kids play football in 
high school, but in both cases they had enough money set aside to be able to put their kids through 
college without needing athletic scholarships.  
--
Mike Nolan


From wildelk2 at aol.com  Sun Feb 26 20:59:27 2012
From: wildelk2 at aol.com (Eric Kunkel)
Date: Sun, 26 Feb 2012 21:59:27 -0500 (EST)
Subject: [NU Sports] As Shon Morris would say
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   I agree Lady Luck was on our side (finally) , but on replay Shurna was hacked enough to cause the trajectory of the ball to go nowhere near the basket; I believe that sealed the deal getting the foul.  As it was, John's shot had deperation written all over it; no way in hell it would've gone in.
   We could've poited out alot of things that went wrong; they were patently obvious.  Bur seeing Marcotullio nail some 3's was huge.  He's supposively a good 3 poit guy but hasn't showed much of it, maybe due to injury.  It looks like Cobb is starting to get in the groove offensively. There's no reason he can't be a 8-12 points per game guy down the stretch along with his defense.
   3-0 vs. PSU and Iowa.  In the past 3 season if we had 3 wins in 4 games vs. these 2 teams we'd be looking at our 4th straight NCAA tournement bid. Problem is we need 4 wins (save a huge upset Wed,   could happen), and Iowa has been tough as nails at home. Maybe our students can make a road trip next weekend?  
   Scary.  We beat Iowa and win the first game in the Big 10 tournement and we should get in;  high RPI and SOS which the talking heads keep talking about. Time to circle the wagons and get on board; beat the Bucks and end all speculation would be best!   

GO CATS!!        Eric
   



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To: 'nwu-sports at tssi.com' <nwu-sports at tssi.com>
Sent: Sat, Feb 25, 2012 11:06 pm
Subject: [NU Sports] As Shon Morris would say


"Very fortunate."
Cats played thoroughly ineffectual defense, allowing PSU to repeatedly score 
nside with ease.  
Without Marcotullio hitting four treys and the whole team having a hot night 
rom distance...
And the Cats getting two FT misses by PSU with :14 left and a questionable foul 
all on a Shurna miss against a double team with :2+ left, NU would've lost the 
ame and seen its season disintegrate (and after the telecast kept trumpeting 
U's great NCAA tourney qualifications :)).
Carmody gets his first win ever @ PSU.  Cats win a close one on the road.
Two more regular season games and conference tourney left.  
Again, "very fortunate."

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ubject: [NU Sports] First half
Brutal start for Cats - poor shooting, turnovers, slow to the ball off boards 
nd on defense.  But NU turned it around, in large part due to Sobolewski's 
ggressiveness on offense...and it was encouraging to see six of the seven guys 
et into scoring column, concluding with Cobb hitting a biggie.  If he can shake 
he rust off and find his shot and rhythm on offense, the Cats will improve a 
ot.  Nice turnaround to go from down eight to up six (and there were 
pportunities to lead by more).  Sobo/Shurna/Crawford lead way and a strong 
econd half will be needed to put away PSU, which is definitely capable of 
etter play.
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From rstetson at capps-assoc.com  Sun Feb 26 21:57:03 2012
From: rstetson at capps-assoc.com (Roy S. Lamberton)
Date: Sun, 26 Feb 2012 22:57:03 -0500
Subject: [NU Sports] I believe
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AND - the Ill-Whine-I helped out by knocking off Ioway today. (a couplet)

I?m glad that the Ill-noise team that I watched tonight wasn't there when we beat them,
they were pretty good, especially inside.

Iowa was not slouch either - they'll be coming off a game at Nebraska, we'll be coming off
dOSU.

If BC has any "magic" left in his clipboard, we sure gonna need it next week.

rsl

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Subject: Re: [NU Sports] I believe

Well gang, we will get the Bucks off a tough loss at home to Bucky. Will they be angry or
shaken?
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Subject: Re: [NU Sports] I believe

It's also about three hours down I-75 from my little town of Monroe, Michigan.
 
If this is the location of our first ever game in the NCAA tournament, I'll be there.
 
Jeff
 

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From: nwu-sports-bounces at tssi.com on behalf of Alan Abrahamson
Sent: Sun 2/26/2012 4:33 PM
To: Marilyn Bendat; Northwestern Wildcats
Subject: Re: [NU Sports] I believe



I was just talking with another Northwestern friend about this very thing earlier this
morning.

Indeed, I was born and raised in Dayton. (Yikes! As I like to say -- not my
fault!)

For those of you who might be thinking about descending on the Gem City, the best place in
town to eat is called the Pine Club. It actually is fantastic. (No kidding.) Link:
http://thepineclub.com/

Cassano's Pizza is really good. There are outlets around town:
http://www.cassanos.com/

The University of Dayton Arena is a remarkably okay basketball venue. The Flyers (1967
NCAA runners-up) are a team that is consistently to be reckoned with.

If you fly to Cincinnati, the airport is in northern Kentucky; Dayton is about 70 miles
from there.

The Dayton airport is amazingly big. Aviation is a huge deal in Dayton.
That's because the Wright Brothers are from there and Wright-Patterson Air Force Base is
in Dayton. My advice would be to fly to Chicago, connect there and fly straight to Dayton.

If you're driving from Chicago, it's five hours down I-65 to I-70.

The best place to stay in town is the Marriott by the Arena. Though I'm sure all the rooms
will be booked by the NCAA.

I-70 and I-75 criss-cross in Dayton. There are a million hotel rooms. It won't be a
problem to find a place to stay.

For those of you going, the tourist attraction in town is the Wright-Patterson Air Force
Base museum: http://www.nationalmuseum.af.mil/.
It is, truthfully, pretty cool.

Columbus is 70 miles east. Indianapolis 110 miles west. Cincinnati, as I said, is 50 miles
south (and the airport in Kentucky just across the Ohio River, etc.)

If anyone wants more info, feel free to email me directly or we can have a list-wide
conversation all about Dayton! Let's hope this all comes to pass ...

Go Cats!





On Sun, Feb 26, 2012 at 1:04 PM, Marilyn Bendat <thehaze at earthlink.net>wrote:

> Alan, if we make the NCAA tournament and our first game is in your 
> native city of Dayton, will you be there? Or, better yet, will be 
> there regardless of where we play?!
>
> -----Original Message-----
> >From: Alan Abrahamson <alan.abrahamson at gmail.com>
> >Sent: Feb 25, 2012 8:10 PM
> >To: "Beamsley, Jeff" <Jeff.Beamsley at covisint.com>
> >Cc: NU Sports List <nwu-sports at tssi.com>
> >Subject: Re: [NU Sports] I believe
> >
> >We had a family birthday party at my house tonight. 20 people. Me and 
> >all my in-laws. Laura and I have been married for 20 years, and my 
> >Wildcat fan freakiness is well known to my in-laws. Everyone erupted 
> >in a big roar
> when
> >Shurna made the two FTs.
> >
> >
> >
> >On Sat, Feb 25, 2012 at 8:04 PM, Beamsley, Jeff
> ><Jeff.Beamsley at covisint.com>wrote:
> >
> >> !!!!!
> >>
> >> Jeff
> >>
> >> Sent from my iPhone
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From nolan at tssi.com  Sun Feb 26 23:52:09 2012
From: nolan at tssi.com (Mike Nolan)
Date: Sun, 26 Feb 2012 23:52:09 -0600 (CST)
Subject: [NU Sports] I believe
In-Reply-To: <003201ccf503$e1e24070$a5a6c150$@com>
Message-ID: <20120227055209.694C965590@romaine.tssi.com>

> Iowa was not slouch either - they'll be coming off a game at Nebraska, we'l'
> be coming off dOSU.

If their MSU performance is any indication, Nebraska's team seems to be taking the rest of
the season off.  The papers had to go back to 1947 to find a worse performance.
--
Mike Nolan


From nolan at tssi.com  Mon Feb 27 14:03:03 2012
From: nolan at tssi.com (Mike Nolan)
Date: Mon, 27 Feb 2012 14:03:03 -0600 (CST)
Subject: [NU Sports] ACC FB schedule out
Message-ID: <20120227200303.442AB654D7@romaine.tssi.com>

The ACC's full football schedule for 2012 is out.

Normally this wouldn't be relevant here, but there is one item that might 
have some interest on it.

Notre Dame will play Miami at Soldier Field in Chicago on October 6th.
I wonder if, somewhat like NIU's game against Wisconsin last season,  this is 
in response to Northwestern's 'Chicago's Big Ten team' promo?

Notre Dame has two other games scheduled against the ACC in 2012,
Wake Forest and BC.  
--
Mike Nolan


From j-hodges at alumni.northwestern.edu  Mon Feb 27 14:42:46 2012
From: j-hodges at alumni.northwestern.edu (Jonathan Hodges)
Date: Mon, 27 Feb 2012 15:42:46 -0500
Subject: [NU Sports] ACC FB schedule out
In-Reply-To: <20120227200303.442AB654D7@romaine.tssi.com>
References: <20120227200303.442AB654D7@romaine.tssi.com>
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The ND/Miami game was announced about a year ago, I believe, as a part of
Notre Dame's new scheduling strategy that has them playing a good number of
neutral site games across the country (prior examples: they played
Washington St in San Antonio a couple of years ago and played Army at
Yankee Stadium the same day as NU's Wrigley Game).  Basically, they want to
reap the financial rewards of a home game (TV & game day revenue) while
trying keep a hold on their infamous national footprint (for
recruiting/visibility purposes).  This game is just one piece of that
puzzle.  Fortunately for NU, this game has lost a huge amount of its luster
over the past year or so due to ND's continued struggles on the field and
Miami's "situation" off of it.

Also, NIU is responsible for scheduling what are becoming annual games at
Soldier Field (I believe these are all "home games" for NIU): they played
Iowa within the past few years and have them again this year there on Sept.
1.

I'm sure the Chicago Parks Dept (who runs Soldier Field) is eager to book
sellout events like this although it wreaks havoc on that field come
November/December (reference the annual griping by the Bears' & fans about
how bad the turf is).

Finally, on NU ever playing at Soldier Field again: I doubt it will happen
as it doesn't really bring enough novelty or extra capacity to justify
moving a game and losing a portion of the revenue to other interests.  NU
needs to average at least 7 home games a year and neutral site games would
put a dent in that given the fact that NU plays a lot of home and home
series and must make those return trips.  Now, when the Pac-12/Big Ten
challenge gets going later this decade, there was talk about neutral site
games, so that could lead to a game there at some point.

Jonathan

--
Jonathan Hodges
Contributor, HailToPurple
Web: http://www.hailtopurple.com/jhodges/
Twitter: @hailtopurple
Email: j-hodges at alumni.northwestern.edu



On Mon, Feb 27, 2012 at 3:03 PM, Mike Nolan <nolan at tssi.com> wrote:

> The ACC's full football schedule for 2012 is out.
>
> Normally this wouldn't be relevant here, but there is one item that might
> have some interest on it.
>
> Notre Dame will play Miami at Soldier Field in Chicago on October 6th.
> I wonder if, somewhat like NIU's game against Wisconsin last season,  this
> is
> in response to Northwestern's 'Chicago's Big Ten team' promo?
>
> Notre Dame has two other games scheduled against the ACC in 2012,
> Wake Forest and BC.
> --
> Mike Nolan
>
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From tbng at comcast.net  Mon Feb 27 16:27:32 2012
From: tbng at comcast.net (Dennis W. Brandt)
Date: Mon, 27 Feb 2012 17:27:32 -0500
Subject: [NU Sports] Nebraska story
Message-ID: <C1645D71861D4DDE9DBDCFC60D703FDC@dennismachine>

Just heard a good one on C-SPAN by author Jim Clifton.  He's from Nebraska.  Many years ago when the Nebraska-Oklahoma game was the biggest encounter of the year, a sportscaster interviewed a Nebraska running back, one Clifton refused to name (for reasons you will see shortly).  The kid is holding his helmet, all white except for the big, red "N."  The sportscaster asks him, "We all know that "N" stands for Nebraska, but what else does it mean to you?"  The kid thought for a few seconds, searching for the right answer, and finally said, "Knowledge!"

From thehaze at earthlink.net  Mon Feb 27 22:15:29 2012
From: thehaze at earthlink.net (Jim Bendat)
Date: Mon, 27 Feb 2012 20:15:29 -0800 (GMT-08:00)
Subject: [NU Sports] Possible NU recruit scores 71 in high school game
Message-ID: <13182859.1330402529814.JavaMail.root@wamui-haziran.atl.sa.earthlink.net>

This kid is a high school junior right now. 71 points in any game is no small matter!

http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/highschool-prep-rally/somehow-minnesota-star-anders-broman-scores-71-points-200757408.html


From thiegs at umn.edu  Tue Feb 28 09:48:57 2012
From: thiegs at umn.edu (Joe Thiegs)
Date: Tue, 28 Feb 2012 09:48:57 -0600
Subject: [NU Sports] Possible NU recruit scores 71 in high school game
In-Reply-To: <13182859.1330402529814.JavaMail.root@wamui-haziran.atl.sa.earthlink.net>
References: <13182859.1330402529814.JavaMail.root@wamui-haziran.atl.sa.earthlink.net>
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I saw this on the local news but didn't know he was being recruited by NU
until your post, Jim.  Maybe the best stat is that he was 13-14 from the
free throw line.  :)  Broman averaged 37.9 ppg last year as a sophomore and
was averaging 45.8 ppg after nine games earlier this year (in mid-January,
well before this game)!  See
http://espn.go.com/blog/high-school/boys-basketball/post/_/id/2249/espnhs-players-of-the-week-jan-11-2012under
"Midwest."  Not all against the greatest opposition but, still, he
definitely can shoot. I'm sure he'll garner more attention now, but let's
hope the 'Cats can land him.

Probably the best high school player in Minnesota right now is Tyus Jones
of Apple Valley, a sophomore and a 5-star recruit, rated the third-best
player in the country in the class of 2014.  He already has offers from
Izzo, Matta, Tubby, Krzyzewski, etc.
http://espn.go.com/college-sports/basketball/recruiting/player/_/id/112617/tyus-jones

-Joe
**

On Mon, Feb 27, 2012 at 10:15 PM, Jim Bendat <thehaze at earthlink.net> wrote:

> This kid is a high school junior right now. 71 points in any game is no
> small matter!
>
>
> http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/highschool-prep-rally/somehow-minnesota-star-anders-broman-scores-71-points-200757408.html
>
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From Jeff.Beamsley at covisint.com  Tue Feb 28 09:54:48 2012
From: Jeff.Beamsley at covisint.com (Beamsley, Jeff)
Date: Tue, 28 Feb 2012 10:54:48 -0500
Subject: [NU Sports] Possible NU recruit scores 71 in high school game
In-Reply-To: <CAFRy6pG8we08QyTJQhMCCY7cZ5yvnSZst-Xx9NwuS1EbZ9AQ5Q@mail.gmail.com>
References: <13182859.1330402529814.JavaMail.root@wamui-haziran.atl.sa.earthlink.net>
 <CAFRy6pG8we08QyTJQhMCCY7cZ5yvnSZst-Xx9NwuS1EbZ9AQ5Q@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <37BBE4FEDCA6A1479A65BA8A020B14BC570146@nasa-dtw-ex006.nasa.cpwr.corp>

Tyus Jones DOES have a long list of offers.

Doesn't appear that NU is in the running.

Jeff

-----Original Message-----
From: nwu-sports-bounces at tssi.com [mailto:nwu-sports-bounces at tssi.com]
On Behalf Of Joe Thiegs
Sent: Tuesday, February 28, 2012 10:49 AM
To: Jim Bendat
Cc: nwu-sports at tssi.com
Subject: Re: [NU Sports] Possible NU recruit scores 71 in high school
game

I saw this on the local news but didn't know he was being recruited by
NU
until your post, Jim.  Maybe the best stat is that he was 13-14 from the
free throw line.  :)  Broman averaged 37.9 ppg last year as a sophomore
and
was averaging 45.8 ppg after nine games earlier this year (in
mid-January,
well before this game)!  See
http://espn.go.com/blog/high-school/boys-basketball/post/_/id/2249/espnh
s-players-of-the-week-jan-11-2012under
"Midwest."  Not all against the greatest opposition but, still, he
definitely can shoot. I'm sure he'll garner more attention now, but
let's
hope the 'Cats can land him.

Probably the best high school player in Minnesota right now is Tyus
Jones
of Apple Valley, a sophomore and a 5-star recruit, rated the third-best
player in the country in the class of 2014.  He already has offers from
Izzo, Matta, Tubby, Krzyzewski, etc.
http://espn.go.com/college-sports/basketball/recruiting/player/_/id/1126
17/tyus-jones

-Joe
**

On Mon, Feb 27, 2012 at 10:15 PM, Jim Bendat <thehaze at earthlink.net>
wrote:

> This kid is a high school junior right now. 71 points in any game is
no
> small matter!
>
>
>
http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/highschool-prep-rally/somehow-minnesota-st
ar-anders-broman-scores-71-points-200757408.html
>
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From nolan at tssi.com  Tue Feb 28 10:13:48 2012
From: nolan at tssi.com (Mike Nolan)
Date: Tue, 28 Feb 2012 10:13:48 -0600 (CST)
Subject: [NU Sports] A recruit we missed out on, thankfully
Message-ID: <20120228161348.E35976559A@romaine.tssi.com>

Northwestern was one of many schools that gave an offer to ESPN 
top 150 athlete Davonte Neal from Arizona.

I think I'm glad we missed out on him.  First he scheduled a press
conference at his old elementary school to announce his choice,
then missed it, causing 600 kids to miss class time.  Later on
that day he announced his decision--Notre Dame.  

His excuse for missing the press conference?  'Personal reasons'.

Now he has transferred to another high school miday through 
his senior year.

His explanation for transferring?  'Personal reasons.'

If the kid graduates from high school and matriculates at 
Notre Dame, wanna bet this won't be the last off-the-field 
'personal reasons' issue for him?
--
Mike Nolan


From aaronsament at gmail.com  Tue Feb 28 11:21:09 2012
From: aaronsament at gmail.com (Aaron Ament)
Date: Tue, 28 Feb 2012 12:21:09 -0500
Subject: [NU Sports] New Palm projections
In-Reply-To: <37BBE4FEDCA6A1479A65BA8A020B14BC570146@nasa-dtw-ex006.nasa.cpwr.corp>
References: <13182859.1330402529814.JavaMail.root@wamui-haziran.atl.sa.earthlink.net>
 <CAFRy6pG8we08QyTJQhMCCY7cZ5yvnSZst-Xx9NwuS1EbZ9AQ5Q@mail.gmail.com>
 <37BBE4FEDCA6A1479A65BA8A020B14BC570146@nasa-dtw-ex006.nasa.cpwr.corp>
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CBS Sportsline just released new projections with us as an 11 seed playing in Louisville!  Now not even one of the last four teams in...


On Feb 28, 2012, at 10:54 AM, "Beamsley, Jeff" <Jeff.Beamsley at covisint.com> wrote:

> Tyus Jones DOES have a long list of offers.
> 
> Doesn't appear that NU is in the running.
> 
> Jeff
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: nwu-sports-bounces at tssi.com [mailto:nwu-sports-bounces at tssi.com]
> On Behalf Of Joe Thiegs
> Sent: Tuesday, February 28, 2012 10:49 AM
> To: Jim Bendat
> Cc: nwu-sports at tssi.com
> Subject: Re: [NU Sports] Possible NU recruit scores 71 in high school
> game
> 
> I saw this on the local news but didn't know he was being recruited by
> NU
> until your post, Jim.  Maybe the best stat is that he was 13-14 from the
> free throw line.  :)  Broman averaged 37.9 ppg last year as a sophomore
> and
> was averaging 45.8 ppg after nine games earlier this year (in
> mid-January,
> well before this game)!  See
> http://espn.go.com/blog/high-school/boys-basketball/post/_/id/2249/espnh
> s-players-of-the-week-jan-11-2012under
> "Midwest."  Not all against the greatest opposition but, still, he
> definitely can shoot. I'm sure he'll garner more attention now, but
> let's
> hope the 'Cats can land him.
> 
> Probably the best high school player in Minnesota right now is Tyus
> Jones
> of Apple Valley, a sophomore and a 5-star recruit, rated the third-best
> player in the country in the class of 2014.  He already has offers from
> Izzo, Matta, Tubby, Krzyzewski, etc.
> http://espn.go.com/college-sports/basketball/recruiting/player/_/id/1126
> 17/tyus-jones
> 
> -Joe
> **
> 
> On Mon, Feb 27, 2012 at 10:15 PM, Jim Bendat <thehaze at earthlink.net>
> wrote:
> 
>> This kid is a high school junior right now. 71 points in any game is
> no
>> small matter!
>> 
>> 
>> 
> http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/highschool-prep-rally/somehow-minnesota-st
> ar-anders-broman-scores-71-points-200757408.html
>> 
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From Willie.Weinbaum at espn.com  Tue Feb 28 11:23:09 2012
From: Willie.Weinbaum at espn.com (Weinbaum, Willie)
Date: Tue, 28 Feb 2012 12:23:09 -0500
Subject: [NU Sports] New Palm projections
In-Reply-To: <F35CDFA2-A225-42F6-BB42-F3DF1741A74E@gmail.com>
References: <13182859.1330402529814.JavaMail.root@wamui-haziran.atl.sa.earthlink.net>
 <CAFRy6pG8we08QyTJQhMCCY7cZ5yvnSZst-Xx9NwuS1EbZ9AQ5Q@mail.gmail.com>
 <37BBE4FEDCA6A1479A65BA8A020B14BC570146@nasa-dtw-ex006.nasa.cpwr.corp>
 <F35CDFA2-A225-42F6-BB42-F3DF1741A74E@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <1F89BB2CE7A5B94D969618E8CC769CC30148215392@XCHGBRS4.corp.espn.pvt>

Brings to mind what Al Davis would have said, with two games left in the regular season:

"Just Win, Baby."

(In NYC, related to the Knicks, it's "Just Lin, Baby.")

-----Original Message-----
From: nwu-sports-bounces at tssi.com [mailto:nwu-sports-bounces at tssi.com] On Behalf Of Aaron Ament
Sent: Tuesday, February 28, 2012 12:21 PM
To: Beamsley, Jeff
Cc: nwu-sports at tssi.com
Subject: [NU Sports] New Palm projections

CBS Sportsline just released new projections with us as an 11 seed playing in Louisville!  Now not even one of the last four teams in...


On Feb 28, 2012, at 10:54 AM, "Beamsley, Jeff" <Jeff.Beamsley at covisint.com> wrote:

> Tyus Jones DOES have a long list of offers.
>
> Doesn't appear that NU is in the running.
>
> Jeff
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: nwu-sports-bounces at tssi.com [mailto:nwu-sports-bounces at tssi.com]
> On Behalf Of Joe Thiegs
> Sent: Tuesday, February 28, 2012 10:49 AM
> To: Jim Bendat
> Cc: nwu-sports at tssi.com
> Subject: Re: [NU Sports] Possible NU recruit scores 71 in high school 
> game
>
> I saw this on the local news but didn't know he was being recruited by 
> NU until your post, Jim.  Maybe the best stat is that he was 13-14 
> from the free throw line.  :)  Broman averaged 37.9 ppg last year as a 
> sophomore and was averaging 45.8 ppg after nine games earlier this 
> year (in mid-January, well before this game)!  See 
> http://espn.go.com/blog/high-school/boys-basketball/post/_/id/2249/esp
> nh s-players-of-the-week-jan-11-2012under
> "Midwest."  Not all against the greatest opposition but, still, he 
> definitely can shoot. I'm sure he'll garner more attention now, but 
> let's hope the 'Cats can land him.
>
> Probably the best high school player in Minnesota right now is Tyus 
> Jones of Apple Valley, a sophomore and a 5-star recruit, rated the 
> third-best player in the country in the class of 2014.  He already has 
> offers from Izzo, Matta, Tubby, Krzyzewski, etc.
> http://espn.go.com/college-sports/basketball/recruiting/player/_/id/11
> 26
> 17/tyus-jones
>
> -Joe
> **
>
> On Mon, Feb 27, 2012 at 10:15 PM, Jim Bendat <thehaze at earthlink.net>
> wrote:
>
>> This kid is a high school junior right now. 71 points in any game is
> no
>> small matter!
>>
>>
>>
> http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/highschool-prep-rally/somehow-minnesota-
> st ar-anders-broman-scores-71-points-200757408.html
>>
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From hakirsch at aol.com  Tue Feb 28 11:31:54 2012
From: hakirsch at aol.com (hakirsch at aol.com)
Date: Tue, 28 Feb 2012 17:31:54 +0000
Subject: [NU Sports] New Palm projections
In-Reply-To: <1F89BB2CE7A5B94D969618E8CC769CC30148215392@XCHGBRS4.corp.espn.pvt>
References: <13182859.1330402529814.JavaMail.root@wamui-haziran.atl.sa.earthlink.net>
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If we get an NCAA berth, I will gladly take it. But if we can get in with a 7-11 conference record then there really has been berth inflation

We got our first post season berth in 1983 in the NIT with a 7-11 record as well, when the BT had recently won 3 national titles (1976,1979,1981) and had 2 teams in the final 4 in 1980).  Back then there were 48 NCAA teams and 32 NIT.  We were one of the last picks making therefore making us close to #80. 

Harry
Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry

-----Original Message-----
From: "Weinbaum, Willie" <Willie.Weinbaum at espn.com>
Sender: nwu-sports-bounces at tssi.com
Date: Tue, 28 Feb 2012 12:23:09 
Cc: nwu-sports at tssi.com<nwu-sports at tssi.com>
Subject: Re: [NU Sports] New Palm projections

Brings to mind what Al Davis would have said, with two games left in the regular season:

"Just Win, Baby."

(In NYC, related to the Knicks, it's "Just Lin, Baby.")

-----Original Message-----
From: nwu-sports-bounces at tssi.com [mailto:nwu-sports-bounces at tssi.com] On Behalf Of Aaron Ament
Sent: Tuesday, February 28, 2012 12:21 PM
To: Beamsley, Jeff
Cc: nwu-sports at tssi.com
Subject: [NU Sports] New Palm projections

CBS Sportsline just released new projections with us as an 11 seed playing in Louisville!  Now not even one of the last four teams in...


On Feb 28, 2012, at 10:54 AM, "Beamsley, Jeff" <Jeff.Beamsley at covisint.com> wrote:

> Tyus Jones DOES have a long list of offers.
>
> Doesn't appear that NU is in the running.
>
> Jeff
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: nwu-sports-bounces at tssi.com [mailto:nwu-sports-bounces at tssi.com]
> On Behalf Of Joe Thiegs
> Sent: Tuesday, February 28, 2012 10:49 AM
> To: Jim Bendat
> Cc: nwu-sports at tssi.com
> Subject: Re: [NU Sports] Possible NU recruit scores 71 in high school 
> game
>
> I saw this on the local news but didn't know he was being recruited by 
> NU until your post, Jim.  Maybe the best stat is that he was 13-14 
> from the free throw line.  :)  Broman averaged 37.9 ppg last year as a 
> sophomore and was averaging 45.8 ppg after nine games earlier this 
> year (in mid-January, well before this game)!  See 
> http://espn.go.com/blog/high-school/boys-basketball/post/_/id/2249/esp
> nh s-players-of-the-week-jan-11-2012under
> "Midwest."  Not all against the greatest opposition but, still, he 
> definitely can shoot. I'm sure he'll garner more attention now, but 
> let's hope the 'Cats can land him.
>
> Probably the best high school player in Minnesota right now is Tyus 
> Jones of Apple Valley, a sophomore and a 5-star recruit, rated the 
> third-best player in the country in the class of 2014.  He already has 
> offers from Izzo, Matta, Tubby, Krzyzewski, etc.
> http://espn.go.com/college-sports/basketball/recruiting/player/_/id/11
> 26
> 17/tyus-jones
>
> -Joe
> **
>
> On Mon, Feb 27, 2012 at 10:15 PM, Jim Bendat <thehaze at earthlink.net>
> wrote:
>
>> This kid is a high school junior right now. 71 points in any game is
> no
>> small matter!
>>
>>
>>
> http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/highschool-prep-rally/somehow-minnesota-
> st ar-anders-broman-scores-71-points-200757408.html
>>
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From Jeff.Beamsley at covisint.com  Tue Feb 28 11:32:27 2012
From: Jeff.Beamsley at covisint.com (Beamsley, Jeff)
Date: Tue, 28 Feb 2012 12:32:27 -0500
Subject: [NU Sports] New Palm projections
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Wow!

Wonder if that's based on their expectation of a win against the
bucknuts?

Just checked the line.  It's Bucks by 16.5.

There also does appear to be some undercurrent to bet NU because OSU has
failed to cover for the last six games or so.

Jeff

-----Original Message-----
From: Aaron Ament [mailto:aaronsament at gmail.com] 
Sent: Tuesday, February 28, 2012 12:21 PM
To: Beamsley, Jeff
Cc: Joe Thiegs; Jim Bendat; nwu-sports at tssi.com
Subject: New Palm projections

CBS Sportsline just released new projections with us as an 11 seed
playing in Louisville!  Now not even one of the last four teams in...


On Feb 28, 2012, at 10:54 AM, "Beamsley, Jeff"
<Jeff.Beamsley at covisint.com> wrote:

> Tyus Jones DOES have a long list of offers.
> 
> Doesn't appear that NU is in the running.
> 
> Jeff
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: nwu-sports-bounces at tssi.com [mailto:nwu-sports-bounces at tssi.com]
> On Behalf Of Joe Thiegs
> Sent: Tuesday, February 28, 2012 10:49 AM
> To: Jim Bendat
> Cc: nwu-sports at tssi.com
> Subject: Re: [NU Sports] Possible NU recruit scores 71 in high school
> game
> 
> I saw this on the local news but didn't know he was being recruited by
> NU
> until your post, Jim.  Maybe the best stat is that he was 13-14 from
the
> free throw line.  :)  Broman averaged 37.9 ppg last year as a
sophomore
> and
> was averaging 45.8 ppg after nine games earlier this year (in
> mid-January,
> well before this game)!  See
>
http://espn.go.com/blog/high-school/boys-basketball/post/_/id/2249/espnh
> s-players-of-the-week-jan-11-2012under
> "Midwest."  Not all against the greatest opposition but, still, he
> definitely can shoot. I'm sure he'll garner more attention now, but
> let's
> hope the 'Cats can land him.
> 
> Probably the best high school player in Minnesota right now is Tyus
> Jones
> of Apple Valley, a sophomore and a 5-star recruit, rated the
third-best
> player in the country in the class of 2014.  He already has offers
from
> Izzo, Matta, Tubby, Krzyzewski, etc.
>
http://espn.go.com/college-sports/basketball/recruiting/player/_/id/1126
> 17/tyus-jones
> 
> -Joe
> **
> 
> On Mon, Feb 27, 2012 at 10:15 PM, Jim Bendat <thehaze at earthlink.net>
> wrote:
> 
>> This kid is a high school junior right now. 71 points in any game is
> no
>> small matter!
>> 
>> 
>> 
>
http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/highschool-prep-rally/somehow-minnesota-st
> ar-anders-broman-scores-71-points-200757408.html
>> 
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From alan.abrahamson at gmail.com  Tue Feb 28 11:34:07 2012
From: alan.abrahamson at gmail.com (Alan Abrahamson)
Date: Tue, 28 Feb 2012 09:34:07 -0800
Subject: [NU Sports] New Palm projections
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>From this morning's Wall Street Journal, by Ben Cohen:

Is this the year the cruelest curse in college basketball finally ends?
Northwestern is the only team in the six major conferences that has never
played in the NCAA tournament, but two weeks from Selection Sunday, the
Wildcats have positioned themselves to snap the streak. As the No. 43 team
in the RPI rankings, Northwestern is squarely on the bubble with a pair of
regular-season games remaining before the Big Ten tournament next week. The
Wildcats host No. 10 Ohio State Wednesday.

On Tue, Feb 28, 2012 at 9:23 AM, Weinbaum, Willie
<Willie.Weinbaum at espn.com>wrote:

> Brings to mind what Al Davis would have said, with two games left in the
> regular season:
>
> "Just Win, Baby."
>
> (In NYC, related to the Knicks, it's "Just Lin, Baby.")
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: nwu-sports-bounces at tssi.com [mailto:nwu-sports-bounces at tssi.com] On
> Behalf Of Aaron Ament
> Sent: Tuesday, February 28, 2012 12:21 PM
> To: Beamsley, Jeff
> Cc: nwu-sports at tssi.com
> Subject: [NU Sports] New Palm projections
>
> CBS Sportsline just released new projections with us as an 11 seed playing
> in Louisville!  Now not even one of the last four teams in...
>
>
> On Feb 28, 2012, at 10:54 AM, "Beamsley, Jeff" <Jeff.Beamsley at covisint.com>
> wrote:
>
> > Tyus Jones DOES have a long list of offers.
> >
> > Doesn't appear that NU is in the running.
> >
> > Jeff
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: nwu-sports-bounces at tssi.com [mailto:nwu-sports-bounces at tssi.com]
> > On Behalf Of Joe Thiegs
> > Sent: Tuesday, February 28, 2012 10:49 AM
> > To: Jim Bendat
> > Cc: nwu-sports at tssi.com
> > Subject: Re: [NU Sports] Possible NU recruit scores 71 in high school
> > game
> >
> > I saw this on the local news but didn't know he was being recruited by
> > NU until your post, Jim.  Maybe the best stat is that he was 13-14
> > from the free throw line.  :)  Broman averaged 37.9 ppg last year as a
> > sophomore and was averaging 45.8 ppg after nine games earlier this
> > year (in mid-January, well before this game)!  See
> > http://espn.go.com/blog/high-school/boys-basketball/post/_/id/2249/esp
> > nh s-players-of-the-week-jan-11-2012under
> > "Midwest."  Not all against the greatest opposition but, still, he
> > definitely can shoot. I'm sure he'll garner more attention now, but
> > let's hope the 'Cats can land him.
> >
> > Probably the best high school player in Minnesota right now is Tyus
> > Jones of Apple Valley, a sophomore and a 5-star recruit, rated the
> > third-best player in the country in the class of 2014.  He already has
> > offers from Izzo, Matta, Tubby, Krzyzewski, etc.
> > http://espn.go.com/college-sports/basketball/recruiting/player/_/id/11
> > 26
> > 17/tyus-jones
> >
> > -Joe
> > **
> >
> > On Mon, Feb 27, 2012 at 10:15 PM, Jim Bendat <thehaze at earthlink.net>
> > wrote:
> >
> >> This kid is a high school junior right now. 71 points in any game is
> > no
> >> small matter!
> >>
> >>
> >>
> > http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/highschool-prep-rally/somehow-minnesota-
> > st ar-anders-broman-scores-71-points-200757408.html
> >>
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From j-hodges at alumni.northwestern.edu  Tue Feb 28 11:42:10 2012
From: j-hodges at alumni.northwestern.edu (Jonathan Hodges)
Date: Tue, 28 Feb 2012 12:42:10 -0500
Subject: [NU Sports] New Palm projections
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Note that Palm, like most other bracketologists out there uses the "if the
season ended today" theory to fill out the brackets.  So, this projection
does not include the probable loss to OSU as well as a probable loss in the
Big Ten tournament.

But, consensus says that NU will get in with a win over Iowa & in the
opening round of the Big Ten tournament.  A second conf tourney win or win
over OSU would pretty much lock NU in.  A loss in either of those "needed
victory" games would likely put NU on the wrong side of the bubble.

NU's best traits (in the eyes of the selection committee) are that they
have no "bad" losses (e.g. losses to RPI 100+ teams) and have an extremely
tough strength of schedule.  This makes winning those 2 "needed victory"
games that much more important, but they'll clearly be tough: Iowa is
playing extremely well right now and NU has to travel, and the Big Ten
tourney game is, of course, a neutral site game and who knows what can
happen there.

If NU doesn't cement itself by winning at least 3 more games, a lot will
likely depend on what other bubble teams do and if there are any big upsets
in some of the "1-bid" league tournaments where an "in" team is upset
(thereby taking away an at large spot).

BTW, the NU blog Sippin on Purple has been doing a nice job of summing up
NU's position in bracketology while also keeping up with the other bubble
action, here's the most recent post:
http://www.sippinonpurple.com/2012/2/27/2827547/northwestern-ncaa-tournament-bracketology-update-february-27-2012

Jonathan


--
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Twitter: @hailtopurple
Email: j-hodges at alumni.northwestern.edu



On Tue, Feb 28, 2012 at 12:31 PM, <hakirsch at aol.com> wrote:

> If we get an NCAA berth, I will gladly take it. But if we can get in with
> a 7-11 conference record then there really has been berth inflation
>
> We got our first post season berth in 1983 in the NIT with a 7-11 record
> as well, when the BT had recently won 3 national titles (1976,1979,1981)
> and had 2 teams in the final 4 in 1980).  Back then there were 48 NCAA
> teams and 32 NIT.  We were one of the last picks making therefore making us
> close to #80.
>
> Harry
> Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: "Weinbaum, Willie" <Willie.Weinbaum at espn.com>
> Sender: nwu-sports-bounces at tssi.com
> Date: Tue, 28 Feb 2012 12:23:09
> Cc: nwu-sports at tssi.com<nwu-sports at tssi.com>
> Subject: Re: [NU Sports] New Palm projections
>
> Brings to mind what Al Davis would have said, with two games left in the
> regular season:
>
> "Just Win, Baby."
>
> (In NYC, related to the Knicks, it's "Just Lin, Baby.")
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: nwu-sports-bounces at tssi.com [mailto:nwu-sports-bounces at tssi.com] On
> Behalf Of Aaron Ament
> Sent: Tuesday, February 28, 2012 12:21 PM
> To: Beamsley, Jeff
> Cc: nwu-sports at tssi.com
> Subject: [NU Sports] New Palm projections
>
> CBS Sportsline just released new projections with us as an 11 seed playing
> in Louisville!  Now not even one of the last four teams in...
>
>
> On Feb 28, 2012, at 10:54 AM, "Beamsley, Jeff" <Jeff.Beamsley at covisint.com>
> wrote:
>
> > Tyus Jones DOES have a long list of offers.
> >
> > Doesn't appear that NU is in the running.
> >
> > Jeff
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: nwu-sports-bounces at tssi.com [mailto:nwu-sports-bounces at tssi.com]
> > On Behalf Of Joe Thiegs
> > Sent: Tuesday, February 28, 2012 10:49 AM
> > To: Jim Bendat
> > Cc: nwu-sports at tssi.com
> > Subject: Re: [NU Sports] Possible NU recruit scores 71 in high school
> > game
> >
> > I saw this on the local news but didn't know he was being recruited by
> > NU until your post, Jim.  Maybe the best stat is that he was 13-14
> > from the free throw line.  :)  Broman averaged 37.9 ppg last year as a
> > sophomore and was averaging 45.8 ppg after nine games earlier this
> > year (in mid-January, well before this game)!  See
> > http://espn.go.com/blog/high-school/boys-basketball/post/_/id/2249/esp
> > nh s-players-of-the-week-jan-11-2012under
> > "Midwest."  Not all against the greatest opposition but, still, he
> > definitely can shoot. I'm sure he'll garner more attention now, but
> > let's hope the 'Cats can land him.
> >
> > Probably the best high school player in Minnesota right now is Tyus
> > Jones of Apple Valley, a sophomore and a 5-star recruit, rated the
> > third-best player in the country in the class of 2014.  He already has
> > offers from Izzo, Matta, Tubby, Krzyzewski, etc.
> > http://espn.go.com/college-sports/basketball/recruiting/player/_/id/11
> > 26
> > 17/tyus-jones
> >
> > -Joe
> > **
> >
> > On Mon, Feb 27, 2012 at 10:15 PM, Jim Bendat <thehaze at earthlink.net>
> > wrote:
> >
> >> This kid is a high school junior right now. 71 points in any game is
> > no
> >> small matter!
> >>
> >>
> >>
> > http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/highschool-prep-rally/somehow-minnesota-
> > st ar-anders-broman-scores-71-points-200757408.html
> >>
> >> _______________________________________________
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> >>
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From aaronsament at gmail.com  Tue Feb 28 11:47:26 2012
From: aaronsament at gmail.com (Aaron Ament)
Date: Tue, 28 Feb 2012 12:47:26 -0500
Subject: [NU Sports] New Palm projections
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I disagree with that.  If we lose to Iowa and win the first round game, I believe we are in.  The Big Ten will get 7 teams and it's tough to see anyone jumping us in that scenario.



On Feb 28, 2012, at 12:42 PM, Jonathan Hodges <j-hodges at alumni.northwestern.edu> wrote:

> Note that Palm, like most other bracketologists out there uses the "if the
> season ended today" theory to fill out the brackets.  So, this projection
> does not include the probable loss to OSU as well as a probable loss in the
> Big Ten tournament.
> 
> But, consensus says that NU will get in with a win over Iowa & in the
> opening round of the Big Ten tournament.  A second conf tourney win or win
> over OSU would pretty much lock NU in.  A loss in either of those "needed
> victory" games would likely put NU on the wrong side of the bubble.
> 
> NU's best traits (in the eyes of the selection committee) are that they
> have no "bad" losses (e.g. losses to RPI 100+ teams) and have an extremely
> tough strength of schedule.  This makes winning those 2 "needed victory"
> games that much more important, but they'll clearly be tough: Iowa is
> playing extremely well right now and NU has to travel, and the Big Ten
> tourney game is, of course, a neutral site game and who knows what can
> happen there.
> 
> If NU doesn't cement itself by winning at least 3 more games, a lot will
> likely depend on what other bubble teams do and if there are any big upsets
> in some of the "1-bid" league tournaments where an "in" team is upset
> (thereby taking away an at large spot).
> 
> BTW, the NU blog Sippin on Purple has been doing a nice job of summing up
> NU's position in bracketology while also keeping up with the other bubble
> action, here's the most recent post:
> http://www.sippinonpurple.com/2012/2/27/2827547/northwestern-ncaa-tournament-bracketology-update-february-27-2012
> 
> Jonathan
> 
> 
> --
> Jonathan Hodges
> Contributor, HailToPurple
> Web: http://www.hailtopurple.com/jhodges/
> Twitter: @hailtopurple
> Email: j-hodges at alumni.northwestern.edu
> 
> 
> 
> On Tue, Feb 28, 2012 at 12:31 PM, <hakirsch at aol.com> wrote:
> 
>> If we get an NCAA berth, I will gladly take it. But if we can get in with
>> a 7-11 conference record then there really has been berth inflation
>> 
>> We got our first post season berth in 1983 in the NIT with a 7-11 record
>> as well, when the BT had recently won 3 national titles (1976,1979,1981)
>> and had 2 teams in the final 4 in 1980).  Back then there were 48 NCAA
>> teams and 32 NIT.  We were one of the last picks making therefore making us
>> close to #80.
>> 
>> Harry
>> Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry
>> 
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: "Weinbaum, Willie" <Willie.Weinbaum at espn.com>
>> Sender: nwu-sports-bounces at tssi.com
>> Date: Tue, 28 Feb 2012 12:23:09
>> Cc: nwu-sports at tssi.com<nwu-sports at tssi.com>
>> Subject: Re: [NU Sports] New Palm projections
>> 
>> Brings to mind what Al Davis would have said, with two games left in the
>> regular season:
>> 
>> "Just Win, Baby."
>> 
>> (In NYC, related to the Knicks, it's "Just Lin, Baby.")
>> 
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: nwu-sports-bounces at tssi.com [mailto:nwu-sports-bounces at tssi.com] On
>> Behalf Of Aaron Ament
>> Sent: Tuesday, February 28, 2012 12:21 PM
>> To: Beamsley, Jeff
>> Cc: nwu-sports at tssi.com
>> Subject: [NU Sports] New Palm projections
>> 
>> CBS Sportsline just released new projections with us as an 11 seed playing
>> in Louisville!  Now not even one of the last four teams in...
>> 
>> 
>> On Feb 28, 2012, at 10:54 AM, "Beamsley, Jeff" <Jeff.Beamsley at covisint.com>
>> wrote:
>> 
>>> Tyus Jones DOES have a long list of offers.
>>> 
>>> Doesn't appear that NU is in the running.
>>> 
>>> Jeff
>>> 
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: nwu-sports-bounces at tssi.com [mailto:nwu-sports-bounces at tssi.com]
>>> On Behalf Of Joe Thiegs
>>> Sent: Tuesday, February 28, 2012 10:49 AM
>>> To: Jim Bendat
>>> Cc: nwu-sports at tssi.com
>>> Subject: Re: [NU Sports] Possible NU recruit scores 71 in high school
>>> game
>>> 
>>> I saw this on the local news but didn't know he was being recruited by
>>> NU until your post, Jim.  Maybe the best stat is that he was 13-14
>>> from the free throw line.  :)  Broman averaged 37.9 ppg last year as a
>>> sophomore and was averaging 45.8 ppg after nine games earlier this
>>> year (in mid-January, well before this game)!  See
>>> http://espn.go.com/blog/high-school/boys-basketball/post/_/id/2249/esp
>>> nh s-players-of-the-week-jan-11-2012under
>>> "Midwest."  Not all against the greatest opposition but, still, he
>>> definitely can shoot. I'm sure he'll garner more attention now, but
>>> let's hope the 'Cats can land him.
>>> 
>>> Probably the best high school player in Minnesota right now is Tyus
>>> Jones of Apple Valley, a sophomore and a 5-star recruit, rated the
>>> third-best player in the country in the class of 2014.  He already has
>>> offers from Izzo, Matta, Tubby, Krzyzewski, etc.
>>> http://espn.go.com/college-sports/basketball/recruiting/player/_/id/11
>>> 26
>>> 17/tyus-jones
>>> 
>>> -Joe
>>> **
>>> 
>>> On Mon, Feb 27, 2012 at 10:15 PM, Jim Bendat <thehaze at earthlink.net>
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>>> This kid is a high school junior right now. 71 points in any game is
>>> no
>>>> small matter!
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>> http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/highschool-prep-rally/somehow-minnesota-
>>> st ar-anders-broman-scores-71-points-200757408.html
>>>> 
>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>> nwu-sports site list
>>>> nwu-sports at tssi.com
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From j-hodges at alumni.northwestern.edu  Tue Feb 28 12:10:09 2012
From: j-hodges at alumni.northwestern.edu (Jonathan Hodges)
Date: Tue, 28 Feb 2012 13:10:09 -0500
Subject: [NU Sports] New Palm projections
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In that scenario (L to OSU and at Iowa, but W first round Big Ten tourney
game and L second round game), NU COULD very well get in, but they'd be in
a much more difficult situation and a lot would depend on how other bubble
teams do.

Like I've said in earlier messages, the committee could care less how many
teams a given conference has in the tournament: they don't assign, say, 7
slots to the Big Ten and then use conference standings to fill in those
teams - they pick from the entire field of available teams and things like
conference standing and even conference record have little to no bearing on
their decisions, since those statistics only compare teams within the
conference and not from the entire nation.  I'd encourage looking at this
SI article from last year that goes through the selection process (the NCAA
set up a mock session for reporters):
http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2011/writers/andy_staples/02/21/mock.tournament.selection/index.html

In any case, NU still has work to do before it punches a ticket anywhere,
and there are certainly no gimmes.

Jonathan

--
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Contributor, HailToPurple
Web: http://www.hailtopurple.com/jhodges/
Twitter: @hailtopurple
Email: j-hodges at alumni.northwestern.edu



On Tue, Feb 28, 2012 at 12:47 PM, Aaron Ament <aaronsament at gmail.com> wrote:

> I disagree with that.  If we lose to Iowa and win the first round game, I
> believe we are in.  The Big Ten will get 7 teams and it's tough to see
> anyone jumping us in that scenario.
>
>
>
> On Feb 28, 2012, at 12:42 PM, Jonathan Hodges <
> j-hodges at alumni.northwestern.edu> wrote:
>
> > Note that Palm, like most other bracketologists out there uses the "if
> the
> > season ended today" theory to fill out the brackets.  So, this projection
> > does not include the probable loss to OSU as well as a probable loss in
> the
> > Big Ten tournament.
> >
> > But, consensus says that NU will get in with a win over Iowa & in the
> > opening round of the Big Ten tournament.  A second conf tourney win or
> win
> > over OSU would pretty much lock NU in.  A loss in either of those "needed
> > victory" games would likely put NU on the wrong side of the bubble.
> >
> > NU's best traits (in the eyes of the selection committee) are that they
> > have no "bad" losses (e.g. losses to RPI 100+ teams) and have an
> extremely
> > tough strength of schedule.  This makes winning those 2 "needed victory"
> > games that much more important, but they'll clearly be tough: Iowa is
> > playing extremely well right now and NU has to travel, and the Big Ten
> > tourney game is, of course, a neutral site game and who knows what can
> > happen there.
> >
> > If NU doesn't cement itself by winning at least 3 more games, a lot will
> > likely depend on what other bubble teams do and if there are any big
> upsets
> > in some of the "1-bid" league tournaments where an "in" team is upset
> > (thereby taking away an at large spot).
> >
> > BTW, the NU blog Sippin on Purple has been doing a nice job of summing up
> > NU's position in bracketology while also keeping up with the other bubble
> > action, here's the most recent post:
> >
> http://www.sippinonpurple.com/2012/2/27/2827547/northwestern-ncaa-tournament-bracketology-update-february-27-2012
> >
> > Jonathan
> >
> >
> > --
> > Jonathan Hodges
> > Contributor, HailToPurple
> > Web: http://www.hailtopurple.com/jhodges/
> > Twitter: @hailtopurple
> > Email: j-hodges at alumni.northwestern.edu
> >
> >
> >
> > On Tue, Feb 28, 2012 at 12:31 PM, <hakirsch at aol.com> wrote:
> >
> >> If we get an NCAA berth, I will gladly take it. But if we can get in
> with
> >> a 7-11 conference record then there really has been berth inflation
> >>
> >> We got our first post season berth in 1983 in the NIT with a 7-11 record
> >> as well, when the BT had recently won 3 national titles (1976,1979,1981)
> >> and had 2 teams in the final 4 in 1980).  Back then there were 48 NCAA
> >> teams and 32 NIT.  We were one of the last picks making therefore
> making us
> >> close to #80.
> >>
> >> Harry
> >> Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry
> >>
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From: "Weinbaum, Willie" <Willie.Weinbaum at espn.com>
> >> Sender: nwu-sports-bounces at tssi.com
> >> Date: Tue, 28 Feb 2012 12:23:09
> >> Cc: nwu-sports at tssi.com<nwu-sports at tssi.com>
> >> Subject: Re: [NU Sports] New Palm projections
> >>
> >> Brings to mind what Al Davis would have said, with two games left in the
> >> regular season:
> >>
> >> "Just Win, Baby."
> >>
> >> (In NYC, related to the Knicks, it's "Just Lin, Baby.")
> >>
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From: nwu-sports-bounces at tssi.com [mailto:nwu-sports-bounces at tssi.com]
> On
> >> Behalf Of Aaron Ament
> >> Sent: Tuesday, February 28, 2012 12:21 PM
> >> To: Beamsley, Jeff
> >> Cc: nwu-sports at tssi.com
> >> Subject: [NU Sports] New Palm projections
> >>
> >> CBS Sportsline just released new projections with us as an 11 seed
> playing
> >> in Louisville!  Now not even one of the last four teams in...
> >>
> >>
> >> On Feb 28, 2012, at 10:54 AM, "Beamsley, Jeff" <
> Jeff.Beamsley at covisint.com>
> >> wrote:
> >>
> >>> Tyus Jones DOES have a long list of offers.
> >>>
> >>> Doesn't appear that NU is in the running.
> >>>
> >>> Jeff
> >>>
> >>> -----Original Message-----
> >>> From: nwu-sports-bounces at tssi.com [mailto:nwu-sports-bounces at tssi.com]
> >>> On Behalf Of Joe Thiegs
> >>> Sent: Tuesday, February 28, 2012 10:49 AM
> >>> To: Jim Bendat
> >>> Cc: nwu-sports at tssi.com
> >>> Subject: Re: [NU Sports] Possible NU recruit scores 71 in high school
> >>> game
> >>>
> >>> I saw this on the local news but didn't know he was being recruited by
> >>> NU until your post, Jim.  Maybe the best stat is that he was 13-14
> >>> from the free throw line.  :)  Broman averaged 37.9 ppg last year as a
> >>> sophomore and was averaging 45.8 ppg after nine games earlier this
> >>> year (in mid-January, well before this game)!  See
> >>> http://espn.go.com/blog/high-school/boys-basketball/post/_/id/2249/esp
> >>> nh s-players-of-the-week-jan-11-2012under
> >>> "Midwest."  Not all against the greatest opposition but, still, he
> >>> definitely can shoot. I'm sure he'll garner more attention now, but
> >>> let's hope the 'Cats can land him.
> >>>
> >>> Probably the best high school player in Minnesota right now is Tyus
> >>> Jones of Apple Valley, a sophomore and a 5-star recruit, rated the
> >>> third-best player in the country in the class of 2014.  He already has
> >>> offers from Izzo, Matta, Tubby, Krzyzewski, etc.
> >>> http://espn.go.com/college-sports/basketball/recruiting/player/_/id/11
> >>> 26
> >>> 17/tyus-jones
> >>>
> >>> -Joe
> >>> **
> >>>
> >>> On Mon, Feb 27, 2012 at 10:15 PM, Jim Bendat <thehaze at earthlink.net>
> >>> wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> This kid is a high school junior right now. 71 points in any game is
> >>> no
> >>>> small matter!
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>> http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/highschool-prep-rally/somehow-minnesota-
> >>> st ar-anders-broman-scores-71-points-200757408.html
> >>>>
> >>>> _______________________________________________
> >>>> nwu-sports site list
> >>>> nwu-sports at tssi.com
> >>>> http://romaine.tssi.com/mailman/listinfo/nwu-sports
> >>>>
> >>> _______________________________________________
> >>> nwu-sports site list
> >>> nwu-sports at tssi.com
> >>> http://romaine.tssi.com/mailman/listinfo/nwu-sports
> >>>
> >>> _______________________________________________
> >>> nwu-sports site list
> >>> nwu-sports at tssi.com
> >>> http://romaine.tssi.com/mailman/listinfo/nwu-sports
> >>
> >> _______________________________________________
> >> nwu-sports site list
> >> nwu-sports at tssi.com
> >> http://romaine.tssi.com/mailman/listinfo/nwu-sports
> >>
> >> Please consider the environment before printing this e-mail.
> >>
> >> _______________________________________________
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> >> nwu-sports at tssi.com
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> >> _______________________________________________
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> >> nwu-sports at tssi.com
> >> http://romaine.tssi.com/mailman/listinfo/nwu-sports
> >>
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> > nwu-sports site list
> > nwu-sports at tssi.com
> > http://romaine.tssi.com/mailman/listinfo/nwu-sports
>

From neonrye at aol.com  Tue Feb 28 12:19:15 2012
From: neonrye at aol.com (neonrye at aol.com)
Date: Tue, 28 Feb 2012 18:19:15 +0000
Subject: [NU Sports] New Palm projections
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Teddy Greenstein analyzes our "bubble" chances in today's Trib.  Says we need at least 2 more wins.  Frankly, this stuff is almost as mysterious as the College of Cardinals choosing a new Pope.  Maybe if we see a Purple puff of smoke on Selection Sunday, we will be "in".:-)
Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry

-----Original Message-----
From: Jonathan Hodges <j-hodges at alumni.northwestern.edu>
Sender: nwu-sports-bounces at tssi.com
Date: Tue, 28 Feb 2012 13:10:09 
To: Aaron Ament<aaronsament at gmail.com>
Cc: nwu-sports-bounces at tssi.com<nwu-sports-bounces at tssi.com>; nwu-sports at tssi.com<nwu-sports at tssi.com>
Subject: Re: [NU Sports] New Palm projections

In that scenario (L to OSU and at Iowa, but W first round Big Ten tourney
game and L second round game), NU COULD very well get in, but they'd be in
a much more difficult situation and a lot would depend on how other bubble
teams do.

Like I've said in earlier messages, the committee could care less how many
teams a given conference has in the tournament: they don't assign, say, 7
slots to the Big Ten and then use conference standings to fill in those
teams - they pick from the entire field of available teams and things like
conference standing and even conference record have little to no bearing on
their decisions, since those statistics only compare teams within the
conference and not from the entire nation.  I'd encourage looking at this
SI article from last year that goes through the selection process (the NCAA
set up a mock session for reporters):
http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2011/writers/andy_staples/02/21/mock.tournament.selection/index.html

In any case, NU still has work to do before it punches a ticket anywhere,
and there are certainly no gimmes.

Jonathan

--
Jonathan Hodges
Contributor, HailToPurple
Web: http://www.hailtopurple.com/jhodges/
Twitter: @hailtopurple
Email: j-hodges at alumni.northwestern.edu



On Tue, Feb 28, 2012 at 12:47 PM, Aaron Ament <aaronsament at gmail.com> wrote:

> I disagree with that.  If we lose to Iowa and win the first round game, I
> believe we are in.  The Big Ten will get 7 teams and it's tough to see
> anyone jumping us in that scenario.
>
>
>
> On Feb 28, 2012, at 12:42 PM, Jonathan Hodges <
> j-hodges at alumni.northwestern.edu> wrote:
>
> > Note that Palm, like most other bracketologists out there uses the "if
> the
> > season ended today" theory to fill out the brackets.  So, this projection
> > does not include the probable loss to OSU as well as a probable loss in
> the
> > Big Ten tournament.
> >
> > But, consensus says that NU will get in with a win over Iowa & in the
> > opening round of the Big Ten tournament.  A second conf tourney win or
> win
> > over OSU would pretty much lock NU in.  A loss in either of those "needed
> > victory" games would likely put NU on the wrong side of the bubble.
> >
> > NU's best traits (in the eyes of the selection committee) are that they
> > have no "bad" losses (e.g. losses to RPI 100+ teams) and have an
> extremely
> > tough strength of schedule.  This makes winning those 2 "needed victory"
> > games that much more important, but they'll clearly be tough: Iowa is
> > playing extremely well right now and NU has to travel, and the Big Ten
> > tourney game is, of course, a neutral site game and who knows what can
> > happen there.
> >
> > If NU doesn't cement itself by winning at least 3 more games, a lot will
> > likely depend on what other bubble teams do and if there are any big
> upsets
> > in some of the "1-bid" league tournaments where an "in" team is upset
> > (thereby taking away an at large spot).
> >
> > BTW, the NU blog Sippin on Purple has been doing a nice job of summing up
> > NU's position in bracketology while also keeping up with the other bubble
> > action, here's the most recent post:
> >
> http://www.sippinonpurple.com/2012/2/27/2827547/northwestern-ncaa-tournament-bracketology-update-february-27-2012
> >
> > Jonathan
> >
> >
> > --
> > Jonathan Hodges
> > Contributor, HailToPurple
> > Web: http://www.hailtopurple.com/jhodges/
> > Twitter: @hailtopurple
> > Email: j-hodges at alumni.northwestern.edu
> >
> >
> >
> > On Tue, Feb 28, 2012 at 12:31 PM, <hakirsch at aol.com> wrote:
> >
> >> If we get an NCAA berth, I will gladly take it. But if we can get in
> with
> >> a 7-11 conference record then there really has been berth inflation
> >>
> >> We got our first post season berth in 1983 in the NIT with a 7-11 record
> >> as well, when the BT had recently won 3 national titles (1976,1979,1981)
> >> and had 2 teams in the final 4 in 1980).  Back then there were 48 NCAA
> >> teams and 32 NIT.  We were one of the last picks making therefore
> making us
> >> close to #80.
> >>
> >> Harry
> >> Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry
> >>
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From: "Weinbaum, Willie" <Willie.Weinbaum at espn.com>
> >> Sender: nwu-sports-bounces at tssi.com
> >> Date: Tue, 28 Feb 2012 12:23:09
> >> Cc: nwu-sports at tssi.com<nwu-sports at tssi.com>
> >> Subject: Re: [NU Sports] New Palm projections
> >>
> >> Brings to mind what Al Davis would have said, with two games left in the
> >> regular season:
> >>
> >> "Just Win, Baby."
> >>
> >> (In NYC, related to the Knicks, it's "Just Lin, Baby.")
> >>
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From: nwu-sports-bounces at tssi.com [mailto:nwu-sports-bounces at tssi.com]
> On
> >> Behalf Of Aaron Ament
> >> Sent: Tuesday, February 28, 2012 12:21 PM
> >> To: Beamsley, Jeff
> >> Cc: nwu-sports at tssi.com
> >> Subject: [NU Sports] New Palm projections
> >>
> >> CBS Sportsline just released new projections with us as an 11 seed
> playing
> >> in Louisville!  Now not even one of the last four teams in...
> >>
> >>
> >> On Feb 28, 2012, at 10:54 AM, "Beamsley, Jeff" <
> Jeff.Beamsley at covisint.com>
> >> wrote:
> >>
> >>> Tyus Jones DOES have a long list of offers.
> >>>
> >>> Doesn't appear that NU is in the running.
> >>>
> >>> Jeff
> >>>
> >>> -----Original Message-----
> >>> From: nwu-sports-bounces at tssi.com [mailto:nwu-sports-bounces at tssi.com]
> >>> On Behalf Of Joe Thiegs
> >>> Sent: Tuesday, February 28, 2012 10:49 AM
> >>> To: Jim Bendat
> >>> Cc: nwu-sports at tssi.com
> >>> Subject: Re: [NU Sports] Possible NU recruit scores 71 in high school
> >>> game
> >>>
> >>> I saw this on the local news but didn't know he was being recruited by
> >>> NU until your post, Jim.  Maybe the best stat is that he was 13-14
> >>> from the free throw line.  :)  Broman averaged 37.9 ppg last year as a
> >>> sophomore and was averaging 45.8 ppg after nine games earlier this
> >>> year (in mid-January, well before this game)!  See
> >>> http://espn.go.com/blog/high-school/boys-basketball/post/_/id/2249/esp
> >>> nh s-players-of-the-week-jan-11-2012under
> >>> "Midwest."  Not all against the greatest opposition but, still, he
> >>> definitely can shoot. I'm sure he'll garner more attention now, but
> >>> let's hope the 'Cats can land him.
> >>>
> >>> Probably the best high school player in Minnesota right now is Tyus
> >>> Jones of Apple Valley, a sophomore and a 5-star recruit, rated the
> >>> third-best player in the country in the class of 2014.  He already has
> >>> offers from Izzo, Matta, Tubby, Krzyzewski, etc.
> >>> http://espn.go.com/college-sports/basketball/recruiting/player/_/id/11
> >>> 26
> >>> 17/tyus-jones
> >>>
> >>> -Joe
> >>> **
> >>>
> >>> On Mon, Feb 27, 2012 at 10:15 PM, Jim Bendat <thehaze at earthlink.net>
> >>> wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> This kid is a high school junior right now. 71 points in any game is
> >>> no
> >>>> small matter!
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>> http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/highschool-prep-rally/somehow-minnesota-
> >>> st ar-anders-broman-scores-71-points-200757408.html
> >>>>
> >>>> _______________________________________________
> >>>> nwu-sports site list
> >>>> nwu-sports at tssi.com
> >>>> http://romaine.tssi.com/mailman/listinfo/nwu-sports
> >>>>
> >>> _______________________________________________
> >>> nwu-sports site list
> >>> nwu-sports at tssi.com
> >>> http://romaine.tssi.com/mailman/listinfo/nwu-sports
> >>>
> >>> _______________________________________________
> >>> nwu-sports site list
> >>> nwu-sports at tssi.com
> >>> http://romaine.tssi.com/mailman/listinfo/nwu-sports
> >>
> >> _______________________________________________
> >> nwu-sports site list
> >> nwu-sports at tssi.com
> >> http://romaine.tssi.com/mailman/listinfo/nwu-sports
> >>
> >> Please consider the environment before printing this e-mail.
> >>
> >> _______________________________________________
> >> nwu-sports site list
> >> nwu-sports at tssi.com
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> >> _______________________________________________
> >> nwu-sports site list
> >> nwu-sports at tssi.com
> >> http://romaine.tssi.com/mailman/listinfo/nwu-sports
> >>
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> > nwu-sports at tssi.com
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>
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From Willie.Weinbaum at espn.com  Tue Feb 28 12:24:07 2012
From: Willie.Weinbaum at espn.com (Weinbaum, Willie)
Date: Tue, 28 Feb 2012 13:24:07 -0500
Subject: [NU Sports] New Palm projections
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The joke about NU football used to be that it could only beat two colleges - - the College of Cardinals and the Electoral College.  Long ago, in my era.

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From: nwu-sports-bounces at tssi.com [mailto:nwu-sports-bounces at tssi.com] On Behalf Of neonrye at aol.com
Sent: Tuesday, February 28, 2012 1:19 PM
To: Jonathan Hodges; nwu-sports-bounces at tssi.com; Aaron Ament
Cc: nwu-sports at tssi.com
Subject: Re: [NU Sports] New Palm projections

Teddy Greenstein analyzes our "bubble" chances in today's Trib.  Says we need at least 2 more wins.  Frankly, this stuff is almost as mysterious as the College of Cardinals choosing a new Pope.  Maybe if we see a Purple puff of smoke on Selection Sunday, we will be "in".:-) Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry

-----Original Message-----
From: Jonathan Hodges <j-hodges at alumni.northwestern.edu>
Sender: nwu-sports-bounces at tssi.com
Date: Tue, 28 Feb 2012 13:10:09
To: Aaron Ament<aaronsament at gmail.com>
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Subject: Re: [NU Sports] New Palm projections

In that scenario (L to OSU and at Iowa, but W first round Big Ten tourney game and L second round game), NU COULD very well get in, but they'd be in a much more difficult situation and a lot would depend on how other bubble teams do.

Like I've said in earlier messages, the committee could care less how many teams a given conference has in the tournament: they don't assign, say, 7 slots to the Big Ten and then use conference standings to fill in those teams - they pick from the entire field of available teams and things like conference standing and even conference record have little to no bearing on their decisions, since those statistics only compare teams within the conference and not from the entire nation.  I'd encourage looking at this SI article from last year that goes through the selection process (the NCAA set up a mock session for reporters):
http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2011/writers/andy_staples/02/21/mock.tournament.selection/index.html

In any case, NU still has work to do before it punches a ticket anywhere, and there are certainly no gimmes.

Jonathan

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On Tue, Feb 28, 2012 at 12:47 PM, Aaron Ament <aaronsament at gmail.com> wrote:

> I disagree with that.  If we lose to Iowa and win the first round 
> game, I believe we are in.  The Big Ten will get 7 teams and it's 
> tough to see anyone jumping us in that scenario.
>
>
>
> On Feb 28, 2012, at 12:42 PM, Jonathan Hodges < 
> j-hodges at alumni.northwestern.edu> wrote:
>
> > Note that Palm, like most other bracketologists out there uses the 
> > "if
> the
> > season ended today" theory to fill out the brackets.  So, this 
> > projection does not include the probable loss to OSU as well as a 
> > probable loss in
> the
> > Big Ten tournament.
> >
> > But, consensus says that NU will get in with a win over Iowa & in 
> > the opening round of the Big Ten tournament.  A second conf tourney 
> > win or
> win
> > over OSU would pretty much lock NU in.  A loss in either of those 
> > "needed victory" games would likely put NU on the wrong side of the bubble.
> >
> > NU's best traits (in the eyes of the selection committee) are that 
> > they have no "bad" losses (e.g. losses to RPI 100+ teams) and have 
> > an
> extremely
> > tough strength of schedule.  This makes winning those 2 "needed victory"
> > games that much more important, but they'll clearly be tough: Iowa 
> > is playing extremely well right now and NU has to travel, and the 
> > Big Ten tourney game is, of course, a neutral site game and who 
> > knows what can happen there.
> >
> > If NU doesn't cement itself by winning at least 3 more games, a lot 
> > will likely depend on what other bubble teams do and if there are 
> > any big
> upsets
> > in some of the "1-bid" league tournaments where an "in" team is 
> > upset (thereby taking away an at large spot).
> >
> > BTW, the NU blog Sippin on Purple has been doing a nice job of 
> > summing up NU's position in bracketology while also keeping up with 
> > the other bubble action, here's the most recent post:
> >
> http://www.sippinonpurple.com/2012/2/27/2827547/northwestern-ncaa-tour
> nament-bracketology-update-february-27-2012
> >
> > Jonathan
> >
> >
> > --
> > Jonathan Hodges
> > Contributor, HailToPurple
> > Web: http://www.hailtopurple.com/jhodges/
> > Twitter: @hailtopurple
> > Email: j-hodges at alumni.northwestern.edu
> >
> >
> >
> > On Tue, Feb 28, 2012 at 12:31 PM, <hakirsch at aol.com> wrote:
> >
> >> If we get an NCAA berth, I will gladly take it. But if we can get 
> >> in
> with
> >> a 7-11 conference record then there really has been berth inflation
> >>
> >> We got our first post season berth in 1983 in the NIT with a 7-11 
> >> record as well, when the BT had recently won 3 national titles 
> >> (1976,1979,1981) and had 2 teams in the final 4 in 1980).  Back 
> >> then there were 48 NCAA teams and 32 NIT.  We were one of the last 
> >> picks making therefore
> making us
> >> close to #80.
> >>
> >> Harry
> >> Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry
> >>
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From: "Weinbaum, Willie" <Willie.Weinbaum at espn.com>
> >> Sender: nwu-sports-bounces at tssi.com
> >> Date: Tue, 28 Feb 2012 12:23:09
> >> Cc: nwu-sports at tssi.com<nwu-sports at tssi.com>
> >> Subject: Re: [NU Sports] New Palm projections
> >>
> >> Brings to mind what Al Davis would have said, with two games left 
> >> in the regular season:
> >>
> >> "Just Win, Baby."
> >>
> >> (In NYC, related to the Knicks, it's "Just Lin, Baby.")
> >>
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From: nwu-sports-bounces at tssi.com 
> >> [mailto:nwu-sports-bounces at tssi.com]
> On
> >> Behalf Of Aaron Ament
> >> Sent: Tuesday, February 28, 2012 12:21 PM
> >> To: Beamsley, Jeff
> >> Cc: nwu-sports at tssi.com
> >> Subject: [NU Sports] New Palm projections
> >>
> >> CBS Sportsline just released new projections with us as an 11 seed
> playing
> >> in Louisville!  Now not even one of the last four teams in...
> >>
> >>
> >> On Feb 28, 2012, at 10:54 AM, "Beamsley, Jeff" <
> Jeff.Beamsley at covisint.com>
> >> wrote:
> >>
> >>> Tyus Jones DOES have a long list of offers.
> >>>
> >>> Doesn't appear that NU is in the running.
> >>>
> >>> Jeff
> >>>
> >>> -----Original Message-----
> >>> From: nwu-sports-bounces at tssi.com 
> >>> [mailto:nwu-sports-bounces at tssi.com]
> >>> On Behalf Of Joe Thiegs
> >>> Sent: Tuesday, February 28, 2012 10:49 AM
> >>> To: Jim Bendat
> >>> Cc: nwu-sports at tssi.com
> >>> Subject: Re: [NU Sports] Possible NU recruit scores 71 in high 
> >>> school game
> >>>
> >>> I saw this on the local news but didn't know he was being 
> >>> recruited by NU until your post, Jim.  Maybe the best stat is that 
> >>> he was 13-14 from the free throw line.  :)  Broman averaged 37.9 
> >>> ppg last year as a sophomore and was averaging 45.8 ppg after nine 
> >>> games earlier this year (in mid-January, well before this game)!  
> >>> See 
> >>> http://espn.go.com/blog/high-school/boys-basketball/post/_/id/2249
> >>> /esp nh s-players-of-the-week-jan-11-2012under
> >>> "Midwest."  Not all against the greatest opposition but, still, he 
> >>> definitely can shoot. I'm sure he'll garner more attention now, 
> >>> but let's hope the 'Cats can land him.
> >>>
> >>> Probably the best high school player in Minnesota right now is 
> >>> Tyus Jones of Apple Valley, a sophomore and a 5-star recruit, 
> >>> rated the third-best player in the country in the class of 2014.  
> >>> He already has offers from Izzo, Matta, Tubby, Krzyzewski, etc.
> >>> http://espn.go.com/college-sports/basketball/recruiting/player/_/i
> >>> d/11
> >>> 26
> >>> 17/tyus-jones
> >>>
> >>> -Joe
> >>> **
> >>>
> >>> On Mon, Feb 27, 2012 at 10:15 PM, Jim Bendat 
> >>> <thehaze at earthlink.net>
> >>> wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> This kid is a high school junior right now. 71 points in any game 
> >>>> is
> >>> no
> >>>> small matter!
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>> http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/highschool-prep-rally/somehow-minnes
> >>> ota- st ar-anders-broman-scores-71-points-200757408.html
> >>>>
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From aaronsament at gmail.com  Tue Feb 28 12:38:00 2012
From: aaronsament at gmail.com (Aaron Ament)
Date: Tue, 28 Feb 2012 13:38:00 -0500
Subject: [NU Sports] New Palm projections
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Regardless of what some past committee members say publicly, I can assure you most of them are very aware of how many teams each conference is receiving.  And I am willing to bet anyone that there is no way they will give the Big East 9 teams and the Big Ten 6.

Also, has any BCS school with an RPI in the mid-40s and a signature win over a number 1 or 2 seed ever been left out?

As the article Jonathan links to points out, it may be difficult for a reporter to follow what's going on at the conf level when things are moving that quickly in the committee room in a mock selection.  I can assure you for a University AD on the committee that it is not.


On Feb 28, 2012, at 1:10 PM, Jonathan Hodges <j-hodges at alumni.northwestern.edu> wrote:

> In that scenario (L to OSU and at Iowa, but W first round Big Ten tourney game and L second round game), NU COULD very well get in, but they'd be in a much more difficult situation and a lot would depend on how other bubble teams do.
> 
> Like I've said in earlier messages, the committee could care less how many teams a given conference has in the tournament: they don't assign, say, 7 slots to the Big Ten and then use conference standings to fill in those teams - they pick from the entire field of available teams and things like conference standing and even conference record have little to no bearing on their decisions, since those statistics only compare teams within the conference and not from the entire nation.  I'd encourage looking at this SI article from last year that goes through the selection process (the NCAA set up a mock session for reporters): http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2011/writers/andy_staples/02/21/mock.tournament.selection/index.html
> 
> In any case, NU still has work to do before it punches a ticket anywhere, and there are certainly no gimmes.
> 
> Jonathan
> 
> --
> Jonathan Hodges
> Contributor, HailToPurple
> Web: http://www.hailtopurple.com/jhodges/
> Twitter: @hailtopurple
> Email: j-hodges at alumni.northwestern.edu
> 
> 
> 
> On Tue, Feb 28, 2012 at 12:47 PM, Aaron Ament <aaronsament at gmail.com> wrote:
> I disagree with that.  If we lose to Iowa and win the first round game, I believe we are in.  The Big Ten will get 7 teams and it's tough to see anyone jumping us in that scenario.
> 
> 
> 
> On Feb 28, 2012, at 12:42 PM, Jonathan Hodges <j-hodges at alumni.northwestern.edu> wrote:
> 
> > Note that Palm, like most other bracketologists out there uses the "if the
> > season ended today" theory to fill out the brackets.  So, this projection
> > does not include the probable loss to OSU as well as a probable loss in the
> > Big Ten tournament.
> >
> > But, consensus says that NU will get in with a win over Iowa & in the
> > opening round of the Big Ten tournament.  A second conf tourney win or win
> > over OSU would pretty much lock NU in.  A loss in either of those "needed
> > victory" games would likely put NU on the wrong side of the bubble.
> >
> > NU's best traits (in the eyes of the selection committee) are that they
> > have no "bad" losses (e.g. losses to RPI 100+ teams) and have an extremely
> > tough strength of schedule.  This makes winning those 2 "needed victory"
> > games that much more important, but they'll clearly be tough: Iowa is
> > playing extremely well right now and NU has to travel, and the Big Ten
> > tourney game is, of course, a neutral site game and who knows what can
> > happen there.
> >
> > If NU doesn't cement itself by winning at least 3 more games, a lot will
> > likely depend on what other bubble teams do and if there are any big upsets
> > in some of the "1-bid" league tournaments where an "in" team is upset
> > (thereby taking away an at large spot).
> >
> > BTW, the NU blog Sippin on Purple has been doing a nice job of summing up
> > NU's position in bracketology while also keeping up with the other bubble
> > action, here's the most recent post:
> > http://www.sippinonpurple.com/2012/2/27/2827547/northwestern-ncaa-tournament-bracketology-update-february-27-2012
> >
> > Jonathan
> >
> >
> > --
> > Jonathan Hodges
> > Contributor, HailToPurple
> > Web: http://www.hailtopurple.com/jhodges/
> > Twitter: @hailtopurple
> > Email: j-hodges at alumni.northwestern.edu
> >
> >
> >
> > On Tue, Feb 28, 2012 at 12:31 PM, <hakirsch at aol.com> wrote:
> >
> >> If we get an NCAA berth, I will gladly take it. But if we can get in with
> >> a 7-11 conference record then there really has been berth inflation
> >>
> >> We got our first post season berth in 1983 in the NIT with a 7-11 record
> >> as well, when the BT had recently won 3 national titles (1976,1979,1981)
> >> and had 2 teams in the final 4 in 1980).  Back then there were 48 NCAA
> >> teams and 32 NIT.  We were one of the last picks making therefore making us
> >> close to #80.
> >>
> >> Harry
> >> Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry
> >>
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From: "Weinbaum, Willie" <Willie.Weinbaum at espn.com>
> >> Sender: nwu-sports-bounces at tssi.com
> >> Date: Tue, 28 Feb 2012 12:23:09
> >> Cc: nwu-sports at tssi.com<nwu-sports at tssi.com>
> >> Subject: Re: [NU Sports] New Palm projections
> >>
> >> Brings to mind what Al Davis would have said, with two games left in the
> >> regular season:
> >>
> >> "Just Win, Baby."
> >>
> >> (In NYC, related to the Knicks, it's "Just Lin, Baby.")
> >>
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From: nwu-sports-bounces at tssi.com [mailto:nwu-sports-bounces at tssi.com] On
> >> Behalf Of Aaron Ament
> >> Sent: Tuesday, February 28, 2012 12:21 PM
> >> To: Beamsley, Jeff
> >> Cc: nwu-sports at tssi.com
> >> Subject: [NU Sports] New Palm projections
> >>
> >> CBS Sportsline just released new projections with us as an 11 seed playing
> >> in Louisville!  Now not even one of the last four teams in...
> >>
> >>
> >> On Feb 28, 2012, at 10:54 AM, "Beamsley, Jeff" <Jeff.Beamsley at covisint.com>
> >> wrote:
> >>
> >>> Tyus Jones DOES have a long list of offers.
> >>>
> >>> Doesn't appear that NU is in the running.
> >>>
> >>> Jeff
> >>>
> >>> -----Original Message-----
> >>> From: nwu-sports-bounces at tssi.com [mailto:nwu-sports-bounces at tssi.com]
> >>> On Behalf Of Joe Thiegs
> >>> Sent: Tuesday, February 28, 2012 10:49 AM
> >>> To: Jim Bendat
> >>> Cc: nwu-sports at tssi.com
> >>> Subject: Re: [NU Sports] Possible NU recruit scores 71 in high school
> >>> game
> >>>
> >>> I saw this on the local news but didn't know he was being recruited by
> >>> NU until your post, Jim.  Maybe the best stat is that he was 13-14
> >>> from the free throw line.  :)  Broman averaged 37.9 ppg last year as a
> >>> sophomore and was averaging 45.8 ppg after nine games earlier this
> >>> year (in mid-January, well before this game)!  See
> >>> http://espn.go.com/blog/high-school/boys-basketball/post/_/id/2249/esp
> >>> nh s-players-of-the-week-jan-11-2012under
> >>> "Midwest."  Not all against the greatest opposition but, still, he
> >>> definitely can shoot. I'm sure he'll garner more attention now, but
> >>> let's hope the 'Cats can land him.
> >>>
> >>> Probably the best high school player in Minnesota right now is Tyus
> >>> Jones of Apple Valley, a sophomore and a 5-star recruit, rated the
> >>> third-best player in the country in the class of 2014.  He already has
> >>> offers from Izzo, Matta, Tubby, Krzyzewski, etc.
> >>> http://espn.go.com/college-sports/basketball/recruiting/player/_/id/11
> >>> 26
> >>> 17/tyus-jones
> >>>
> >>> -Joe
> >>> **
> >>>
> >>> On Mon, Feb 27, 2012 at 10:15 PM, Jim Bendat <thehaze at earthlink.net>
> >>> wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> This kid is a high school junior right now. 71 points in any game is
> >>> no
> >>>> small matter!
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>> http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/highschool-prep-rally/somehow-minnesota-
> >>> st ar-anders-broman-scores-71-points-200757408.html
> >>>>
> >>>> _______________________________________________
> >>>> nwu-sports site list
> >>>> nwu-sports at tssi.com
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> >>>>
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> >>
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From rstetson at capps-assoc.com  Tue Feb 28 12:40:19 2012
From: rstetson at capps-assoc.com (Roy S. Lamberton)
Date: Tue, 28 Feb 2012 13:40:19 -0500
Subject: [NU Sports] New Palm projections
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-----Original Message-----
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Subject: Re: [NU Sports] New Palm projections

The joke about NU football used to be that it could only beat two colleges - - the College
of Cardinals and the Electoral College.  Long ago, in my era.

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To: Jonathan Hodges; nwu-sports-bounces at tssi.com; Aaron Ament
Cc: nwu-sports at tssi.com
Subject: Re: [NU Sports] New Palm projections

Teddy Greenstein analyzes our "bubble" chances in today's Trib.  Says we need at least 2
more wins.  Frankly, this stuff is almost as mysterious as the College of Cardinals
choosing a new Pope.  Maybe if we see a Purple puff of smoke on Selection Sunday, we will
be "in".:-) Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry

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Subject: Re: [NU Sports] New Palm projections

In that scenario (L to OSU and at Iowa, but W first round Big Ten tourney game and L
second round game), NU COULD very well get in, but they'd be in a much more difficult
situation and a lot would depend on how other bubble teams do.

Like I've said in earlier messages, the committee could care less how many teams a given
conference has in the tournament: they don't assign, say, 7 slots to the Big Ten and then
use conference standings to fill in those teams - they pick from the entire field of
available teams and things like conference standing and even conference record have little
to no bearing on their decisions, since those statistics only compare teams within the
conference and not from the entire nation.  I'd encourage looking at this SI article from
last year that goes through the selection process (the NCAA set up a mock session for
reporters):
http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2011/writers/andy_staples/02/21/mock.tournament.selection
/index.html

In any case, NU still has work to do before it punches a ticket anywhere, and there are
certainly no gimmes.

Jonathan

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On Tue, Feb 28, 2012 at 12:47 PM, Aaron Ament <aaronsament at gmail.com> wrote:

> I disagree with that.  If we lose to Iowa and win the first round 
> game, I believe we are in.  The Big Ten will get 7 teams and it's 
> tough to see anyone jumping us in that scenario.
>
>
>
> On Feb 28, 2012, at 12:42 PM, Jonathan Hodges < 
> j-hodges at alumni.northwestern.edu> wrote:
>
> > Note that Palm, like most other bracketologists out there uses the 
> > "if
> the
> > season ended today" theory to fill out the brackets.  So, this 
> > projection does not include the probable loss to OSU as well as a 
> > probable loss in
> the
> > Big Ten tournament.
> >
> > But, consensus says that NU will get in with a win over Iowa & in 
> > the opening round of the Big Ten tournament.  A second conf tourney 
> > win or
> win
> > over OSU would pretty much lock NU in.  A loss in either of those 
> > "needed victory" games would likely put NU on the wrong side of the bubble.
> >
> > NU's best traits (in the eyes of the selection committee) are that 
> > they have no "bad" losses (e.g. losses to RPI 100+ teams) and have 
> > an
> extremely
> > tough strength of schedule.  This makes winning those 2 "needed victory"
> > games that much more important, but they'll clearly be tough: Iowa 
> > is playing extremely well right now and NU has to travel, and the 
> > Big Ten tourney game is, of course, a neutral site game and who 
> > knows what can happen there.
> >
> > If NU doesn't cement itself by winning at least 3 more games, a lot 
> > will likely depend on what other bubble teams do and if there are 
> > any big
> upsets
> > in some of the "1-bid" league tournaments where an "in" team is 
> > upset (thereby taking away an at large spot).
> >
> > BTW, the NU blog Sippin on Purple has been doing a nice job of 
> > summing up NU's position in bracketology while also keeping up with 
> > the other bubble action, here's the most recent post:
> >
> http://www.sippinonpurple.com/2012/2/27/2827547/northwestern-ncaa-tour
> nament-bracketology-update-february-27-2012
> >
> > Jonathan
> >
> >
> > --
> > Jonathan Hodges
> > Contributor, HailToPurple
> > Web: http://www.hailtopurple.com/jhodges/
> > Twitter: @hailtopurple
> > Email: j-hodges at alumni.northwestern.edu
> >
> >
> >
> > On Tue, Feb 28, 2012 at 12:31 PM, <hakirsch at aol.com> wrote:
> >
> >> If we get an NCAA berth, I will gladly take it. But if we can get 
> >> in
> with
> >> a 7-11 conference record then there really has been berth inflation
> >>
> >> We got our first post season berth in 1983 in the NIT with a 7-11 
> >> record as well, when the BT had recently won 3 national titles
> >> (1976,1979,1981) and had 2 teams in the final 4 in 1980).  Back 
> >> then there were 48 NCAA teams and 32 NIT.  We were one of the last 
> >> picks making therefore
> making us
> >> close to #80.
> >>
> >> Harry
> >> Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry
> >>
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From: "Weinbaum, Willie" <Willie.Weinbaum at espn.com>
> >> Sender: nwu-sports-bounces at tssi.com
> >> Date: Tue, 28 Feb 2012 12:23:09
> >> Cc: nwu-sports at tssi.com<nwu-sports at tssi.com>
> >> Subject: Re: [NU Sports] New Palm projections
> >>
> >> Brings to mind what Al Davis would have said, with two games left 
> >> in the regular season:
> >>
> >> "Just Win, Baby."
> >>
> >> (In NYC, related to the Knicks, it's "Just Lin, Baby.")
> >>
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From: nwu-sports-bounces at tssi.com
> >> [mailto:nwu-sports-bounces at tssi.com]
> On
> >> Behalf Of Aaron Ament
> >> Sent: Tuesday, February 28, 2012 12:21 PM
> >> To: Beamsley, Jeff
> >> Cc: nwu-sports at tssi.com
> >> Subject: [NU Sports] New Palm projections
> >>
> >> CBS Sportsline just released new projections with us as an 11 seed
> playing
> >> in Louisville!  Now not even one of the last four teams in...
> >>
> >>
> >> On Feb 28, 2012, at 10:54 AM, "Beamsley, Jeff" <
> Jeff.Beamsley at covisint.com>
> >> wrote:
> >>
> >>> Tyus Jones DOES have a long list of offers.
> >>>
> >>> Doesn't appear that NU is in the running.
> >>>
> >>> Jeff
> >>>
> >>> -----Original Message-----
> >>> From: nwu-sports-bounces at tssi.com 
> >>> [mailto:nwu-sports-bounces at tssi.com]
> >>> On Behalf Of Joe Thiegs
> >>> Sent: Tuesday, February 28, 2012 10:49 AM
> >>> To: Jim Bendat
> >>> Cc: nwu-sports at tssi.com
> >>> Subject: Re: [NU Sports] Possible NU recruit scores 71 in high 
> >>> school game
> >>>
> >>> I saw this on the local news but didn't know he was being 
> >>> recruited by NU until your post, Jim.  Maybe the best stat is that 
> >>> he was 13-14 from the free throw line.  :)  Broman averaged 37.9 
> >>> ppg last year as a sophomore and was averaging 45.8 ppg after nine 
> >>> games earlier this year (in mid-January, well before this game)!
> >>> See
> >>> http://espn.go.com/blog/high-school/boys-basketball/post/_/id/2249
> >>> /esp nh s-players-of-the-week-jan-11-2012under
> >>> "Midwest."  Not all against the greatest opposition but, still, he 
> >>> definitely can shoot. I'm sure he'll garner more attention now, 
> >>> but let's hope the 'Cats can land him.
> >>>
> >>> Probably the best high school player in Minnesota right now is 
> >>> Tyus Jones of Apple Valley, a sophomore and a 5-star recruit, 
> >>> rated the third-best player in the country in the class of 2014.
> >>> He already has offers from Izzo, Matta, Tubby, Krzyzewski, etc.
> >>> http://espn.go.com/college-sports/basketball/recruiting/player/_/i
> >>> d/11
> >>> 26
> >>> 17/tyus-jones
> >>>
> >>> -Joe
> >>> **
> >>>
> >>> On Mon, Feb 27, 2012 at 10:15 PM, Jim Bendat 
> >>> <thehaze at earthlink.net>
> >>> wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> This kid is a high school junior right now. 71 points in any game 
> >>>> is
> >>> no
> >>>> small matter!
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>> http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/highschool-prep-rally/somehow-minnes
> >>> ota- st ar-anders-broman-scores-71-points-200757408.html
> >>>>
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From nolan at tssi.com  Tue Feb 28 12:43:42 2012
From: nolan at tssi.com (Mike Nolan)
Date: Tue, 28 Feb 2012 12:43:42 -0600 (CST)
Subject: [NU Sports] New Palm projections
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Message-ID: <20120228184342.D3A6C654D9@romaine.tssi.com>

> In that scenario (L to OSU and at Iowa, but W first round Big Ten tourney
> game and L second round game), NU COULD very well get in, but they'd be in
> a much more difficult situation and a lot would depend on how other bubble
> teams do.

Who is NU likely to face in the first round of the Big Ten tourney?
--
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From j-hodges at alumni.northwestern.edu  Tue Feb 28 12:51:36 2012
From: j-hodges at alumni.northwestern.edu (Jonathan Hodges)
Date: Tue, 28 Feb 2012 13:51:36 -0500
Subject: [NU Sports] New Palm projections
In-Reply-To: <20120228184342.D3A6C654D9@romaine.tssi.com>
References: <CAAxRJu4sj+=z=-M4rwJD8o5E5WV0VaV+yf4aF49dg_whqKH5DA@mail.gmail.com>
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As of today, Minnesota, but it could be almost any of the lower tier teams,
including Illinois, Iowa, or even Nebraska or Penn State - a lot depends on
what NU & others do the final 2 games of the regular season (Indiana &
Purdue are at 9-7 and are the 5 & 6 seeds; NU & Iowa are 7-9 and are the 7
& 8 seeds).  Note that the 5-12 seeds play on Thursday; 1-4 have a bye.



--
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On Tue, Feb 28, 2012 at 1:43 PM, Mike Nolan <nolan at tssi.com> wrote:

> > In that scenario (L to OSU and at Iowa, but W first round Big Ten tourney
> > game and L second round game), NU COULD very well get in, but they'd be
> in
> > a much more difficult situation and a lot would depend on how other
> bubble
> > teams do.
>
> Who is NU likely to face in the first round of the Big Ten tourney?
> --
> Mike Nolan
>

From e-west at northwestern.edu  Tue Feb 28 12:57:54 2012
From: e-west at northwestern.edu (Eric C West)
Date: Tue, 28 Feb 2012 18:57:54 +0000
Subject: [NU Sports] New Palm projections
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You can make all the assertions you want (and your gambling habits are your business), but if NU loses its next two games the NCAA won't be searching around for some other Big Ten team to be the 7th in the field. "Awareness" does not imply relevance, and countless actual past tournament fields are evidence against your claim. Think about it: every year, people always gripe, "How could the committee put in X teams from This Conference and only Y teams in from That Conference?" Because it doesn't work that way, and it never has.

Beyond that, I'm not sure why anyone is surprised that nothing is set in stone yet. There must be close to a thousand games left to play before the selection show, and nearly all of them have some sort of effect on where the "cut line" will eventually be. What I wouldn't give to see the Wildcats forget about what might be "enough" and just win.

Eric West
e-west at northwestern.edu


-----Original Message-----
From: nwu-sports-bounces at tssi.com [mailto:nwu-sports-bounces at tssi.com] On Behalf Of Aaron Ament
Sent: Tuesday, February 28, 2012 12:38 PM
To: Jonathan Hodges
Cc: nwu-sports-bounces at tssi.com; nwu-sports at tssi.com
Subject: Re: [NU Sports] New Palm projections

Regardless of what some past committee members say publicly, I can assure you most of them are very aware of how many teams each conference is receiving.  And I am willing to bet anyone that there is no way they will give the Big East 9 teams and the Big Ten 6.

Also, has any BCS school with an RPI in the mid-40s and a signature win over a number 1 or 2 seed ever been left out?

As the article Jonathan links to points out, it may be difficult for a reporter to follow what's going on at the conf level when things are moving that quickly in the committee room in a mock selection.  I can assure you for a University AD on the committee that it is not.


On Feb 28, 2012, at 1:10 PM, Jonathan Hodges <j-hodges at alumni.northwestern.edu> wrote:

> In that scenario (L to OSU and at Iowa, but W first round Big Ten tourney game and L second round game), NU COULD very well get in, but they'd be in a much more difficult situation and a lot would depend on how other bubble teams do.
> 
> Like I've said in earlier messages, the committee could care less how 
> many teams a given conference has in the tournament: they don't 
> assign, say, 7 slots to the Big Ten and then use conference standings 
> to fill in those teams - they pick from the entire field of available 
> teams and things like conference standing and even conference record 
> have little to no bearing on their decisions, since those statistics 
> only compare teams within the conference and not from the entire 
> nation.  I'd encourage looking at this SI article from last year that 
> goes through the selection process (the NCAA set up a mock session for 
> reporters): 
> http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2011/writers/andy_staples/02/21/mock.
> tournament.selection/index.html
> 
> In any case, NU still has work to do before it punches a ticket anywhere, and there are certainly no gimmes.
> 
> Jonathan
> 
> --
> Jonathan Hodges
> Contributor, HailToPurple
> Web: http://www.hailtopurple.com/jhodges/
> Twitter: @hailtopurple
> Email: j-hodges at alumni.northwestern.edu
> 
> 
> 
> On Tue, Feb 28, 2012 at 12:47 PM, Aaron Ament <aaronsament at gmail.com> wrote:
> I disagree with that.  If we lose to Iowa and win the first round game, I believe we are in.  The Big Ten will get 7 teams and it's tough to see anyone jumping us in that scenario.
> 
> 
> 
> On Feb 28, 2012, at 12:42 PM, Jonathan Hodges <j-hodges at alumni.northwestern.edu> wrote:
> 
> > Note that Palm, like most other bracketologists out there uses the 
> > "if the season ended today" theory to fill out the brackets.  So, 
> > this projection does not include the probable loss to OSU as well as 
> > a probable loss in the Big Ten tournament.
> >
> > But, consensus says that NU will get in with a win over Iowa & in 
> > the opening round of the Big Ten tournament.  A second conf tourney 
> > win or win over OSU would pretty much lock NU in.  A loss in either 
> > of those "needed victory" games would likely put NU on the wrong side of the bubble.
> >
> > NU's best traits (in the eyes of the selection committee) are that 
> > they have no "bad" losses (e.g. losses to RPI 100+ teams) and have 
> > an extremely tough strength of schedule.  This makes winning those 2 "needed victory"
> > games that much more important, but they'll clearly be tough: Iowa 
> > is playing extremely well right now and NU has to travel, and the 
> > Big Ten tourney game is, of course, a neutral site game and who 
> > knows what can happen there.
> >
> > If NU doesn't cement itself by winning at least 3 more games, a lot 
> > will likely depend on what other bubble teams do and if there are 
> > any big upsets in some of the "1-bid" league tournaments where an 
> > "in" team is upset (thereby taking away an at large spot).
> >
> > BTW, the NU blog Sippin on Purple has been doing a nice job of 
> > summing up NU's position in bracketology while also keeping up with 
> > the other bubble action, here's the most recent post:
> > http://www.sippinonpurple.com/2012/2/27/2827547/northwestern-ncaa-to
> > urnament-bracketology-update-february-27-2012
> >
> > Jonathan
> >
> >
> > --
> > Jonathan Hodges
> > Contributor, HailToPurple
> > Web: http://www.hailtopurple.com/jhodges/
> > Twitter: @hailtopurple
> > Email: j-hodges at alumni.northwestern.edu
> >
> >
> >
> > On Tue, Feb 28, 2012 at 12:31 PM, <hakirsch at aol.com> wrote:
> >
> >> If we get an NCAA berth, I will gladly take it. But if we can get 
> >> in with a 7-11 conference record then there really has been berth 
> >> inflation
> >>
> >> We got our first post season berth in 1983 in the NIT with a 7-11 
> >> record as well, when the BT had recently won 3 national titles 
> >> (1976,1979,1981) and had 2 teams in the final 4 in 1980).  Back 
> >> then there were 48 NCAA teams and 32 NIT.  We were one of the last 
> >> picks making therefore making us close to #80.
> >>
> >> Harry
> >> Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry
> >>
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From: "Weinbaum, Willie" <Willie.Weinbaum at espn.com>
> >> Sender: nwu-sports-bounces at tssi.com
> >> Date: Tue, 28 Feb 2012 12:23:09
> >> Cc: nwu-sports at tssi.com<nwu-sports at tssi.com>
> >> Subject: Re: [NU Sports] New Palm projections
> >>
> >> Brings to mind what Al Davis would have said, with two games left 
> >> in the regular season:
> >>
> >> "Just Win, Baby."
> >>
> >> (In NYC, related to the Knicks, it's "Just Lin, Baby.")
> >>
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From: nwu-sports-bounces at tssi.com 
> >> [mailto:nwu-sports-bounces at tssi.com] On Behalf Of Aaron Ament
> >> Sent: Tuesday, February 28, 2012 12:21 PM
> >> To: Beamsley, Jeff
> >> Cc: nwu-sports at tssi.com
> >> Subject: [NU Sports] New Palm projections
> >>
> >> CBS Sportsline just released new projections with us as an 11 seed 
> >> playing in Louisville!  Now not even one of the last four teams in...
> >>
> >>
> >> On Feb 28, 2012, at 10:54 AM, "Beamsley, Jeff" 
> >> <Jeff.Beamsley at covisint.com>
> >> wrote:
> >>
> >>> Tyus Jones DOES have a long list of offers.
> >>>
> >>> Doesn't appear that NU is in the running.
> >>>
> >>> Jeff
> >>>
> >>> -----Original Message-----
> >>> From: nwu-sports-bounces at tssi.com 
> >>> [mailto:nwu-sports-bounces at tssi.com]
> >>> On Behalf Of Joe Thiegs
> >>> Sent: Tuesday, February 28, 2012 10:49 AM
> >>> To: Jim Bendat
> >>> Cc: nwu-sports at tssi.com
> >>> Subject: Re: [NU Sports] Possible NU recruit scores 71 in high 
> >>> school game
> >>>
> >>> I saw this on the local news but didn't know he was being 
> >>> recruited by NU until your post, Jim.  Maybe the best stat is that 
> >>> he was 13-14 from the free throw line.  :)  Broman averaged 37.9 
> >>> ppg last year as a sophomore and was averaging 45.8 ppg after nine 
> >>> games earlier this year (in mid-January, well before this game)!  
> >>> See 
> >>> http://espn.go.com/blog/high-school/boys-basketball/post/_/id/2249
> >>> /esp nh s-players-of-the-week-jan-11-2012under
> >>> "Midwest."  Not all against the greatest opposition but, still, he 
> >>> definitely can shoot. I'm sure he'll garner more attention now, 
> >>> but let's hope the 'Cats can land him.
> >>>
> >>> Probably the best high school player in Minnesota right now is 
> >>> Tyus Jones of Apple Valley, a sophomore and a 5-star recruit, 
> >>> rated the third-best player in the country in the class of 2014.  
> >>> He already has offers from Izzo, Matta, Tubby, Krzyzewski, etc.
> >>> http://espn.go.com/college-sports/basketball/recruiting/player/_/i
> >>> d/11
> >>> 26
> >>> 17/tyus-jones
> >>>
> >>> -Joe
> >>> **
> >>>
> >>> On Mon, Feb 27, 2012 at 10:15 PM, Jim Bendat 
> >>> <thehaze at earthlink.net>
> >>> wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> This kid is a high school junior right now. 71 points in any game 
> >>>> is
> >>> no
> >>>> small matter!
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>> http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/highschool-prep-rally/somehow-minnes
> >>> ota- st ar-anders-broman-scores-71-points-200757408.html
> >>>>
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From nolan at tssi.com  Tue Feb 28 13:03:16 2012
From: nolan at tssi.com (Mike Nolan)
Date: Tue, 28 Feb 2012 13:03:16 -0600 (CST)
Subject: [NU Sports] New Palm projections
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> As of today, Minnesota, but it could be almost any of the lower tier teams,
> including Illinois, Iowa, or even Nebraska or Penn State - a lot depends on
> what NU & others do the final 2 games of the regular season (Indiana &
> Purdue are at 9-7 and are the 5 & 6 seeds; NU & Iowa are 7-9 and are the 7
> & 8 seeds).  Note that the 5-12 seeds play on Thursday; 1-4 have a bye.

Right now we're tied with Iowa in the standings , but the Hawkeyes have 
Nebraska and we have OSU, so if we lose to OSU but beat Iowa while Iowa 
defeats the slumping Huskers, then we'd still be tied, but with two wins
over the Hawkeyes we'd remain the #7 seed.  

Illinois is #9 in the standings, but their final games are against
two ranked teams, Michigan and Wisconsin, so they don't seem likely to 
catch up to us.  Even if they did, they'd be the #8 seed and
we'd be the #9 seed so we'd be paired.  

Nebraska has Iowa and Minnesota left, Penn State has Michigan and 
Purdue, so I don't see either Nebraska or Penn State moving up past 
Minny in the standings, so it looks like it'll be either the Gophers 
or the Illini.

The second round game would probably be against either MSU or OSU.
--
Mike Nolan


From neonrye at aol.com  Tue Feb 28 13:04:31 2012
From: neonrye at aol.com (neonrye at aol.com)
Date: Tue, 28 Feb 2012 14:04:31 -0500 (EST)
Subject: [NU Sports] New Palm projections
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IF we beat Iowa, we would almost certainly end up as the No. 7 seed, playing No. 10.in "Game 3" on ESPN2 at 5:30 p.m. ET on Thurs. March 8th.  

Jonathan is correct--as of now, we would face Gophers.  However, if they slip ahead of the Illini (who are 1 game up on them), we get Webber and his athletic "non-team".  By the same token, if somehow Minny falls behind either the Huskers or Nits, then we could get either of those squads.  But if I had to bet, I'd say that Tubby is on the horizon--a winnable game, to be sure, but certainly a very tough opponent on a neutral court, with all of the pressure on NU.

This is going to be one helluva ride down the home stretch.  We just better stay focused--and healthy.  The ironic thing is--and I hate to admit this fault publicly--I have finally conquered my horrid "nail biting" habit, after a lifetime of struggle.  Will the 'Cats cause a relapse into the abyss?:-)  Stay tuned....


Paul Levinson



-----Original Message-----
From: Jonathan Hodges <j-hodges at alumni.northwestern.edu>
To: Mike Nolan <nolan at tssi.com>
Cc: nwu-sports <nwu-sports at tssi.com>; nwu-sports-bounces <nwu-sports-bounces at tssi.com>
Sent: Tue, Feb 28, 2012 1:52 pm
Subject: Re: [NU Sports] New Palm projections


As of today, Minnesota, but it could be almost any of the lower tier teams,
ncluding Illinois, Iowa, or even Nebraska or Penn State - a lot depends on
hat NU & others do the final 2 games of the regular season (Indiana &
urdue are at 9-7 and are the 5 & 6 seeds; NU & Iowa are 7-9 and are the 7
 8 seeds).  Note that the 5-12 seeds play on Thursday; 1-4 have a bye.

--
onathan Hodges
ontributor, HailToPurple
eb: http://www.hailtopurple.com/jhodges/
witter: @hailtopurple
mail: j-hodges at alumni.northwestern.edu

On Tue, Feb 28, 2012 at 1:43 PM, Mike Nolan <nolan at tssi.com> wrote:
> > In that scenario (L to OSU and at Iowa, but W first round Big Ten tourney
 > game and L second round game), NU COULD very well get in, but they'd be
 in
 > a much more difficult situation and a lot would depend on how other
 bubble
 > teams do.

 Who is NU likely to face in the first round of the Big Ten tourney?
 --
 Mike Nolan

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From Jeff.Beamsley at covisint.com  Tue Feb 28 13:09:39 2012
From: Jeff.Beamsley at covisint.com (Beamsley, Jeff)
Date: Tue, 28 Feb 2012 14:09:39 -0500
Subject: [NU Sports] New Palm projections
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The article was really interesting.

Bottom line is that this is a complicated process that is heavily
weighted on RPI.  So that's the good news for NU.  

This does also beg the question a little bit.  If NU is short on wins,
but all (or at least most) of its loses were "good" (close games, higher
ranked teams) does that mean NU gets ranked ahead of a team that has
more "easy" wins or more "bad" loses?

This whole focus of RPI does also explain why the BT pretty reliably
sends 7 teams to the dance.  If you assume that the BT is going to
produce at least four top twenty-five teams (there are five this year),
that means that everyone else in the conference plays those teams twice.
So automatically, every team in the conference is going to have at least
4 road games and more importantly 4 home games against top 25 teams.
That also means that the next couple "unranked" conference teams (again
almost by definition) are going to have at least one win against a top
25 team.    

The #6 team in the conference this year (Purdue) has beaten UoM on the
road.
The #7 team in the conference this year (NU) has beaten MSU at home. 

All that adds up to consistently strong RPI's, which as we've read, are
what explain consistent invitations for at least 7 BT teams.

Also we have a good example in Illinois of how "bad" loses can torpedo
the hopes of a team with a good record against the top 25.  Their loses
to Nebraska, Minny, and PSU will likely overshadow their home wins
against MSU and OSU. 

Jeff

-----Original Message-----
From: nwu-sports-bounces at tssi.com [mailto:nwu-sports-bounces at tssi.com]
On Behalf Of Weinbaum, Willie
Sent: Tuesday, February 28, 2012 1:24 PM
Cc: nwu-sports at tssi.com
Subject: Re: [NU Sports] New Palm projections

The joke about NU football used to be that it could only beat two
colleges - - the College of Cardinals and the Electoral College.  Long
ago, in my era.

-----Original Message-----
From: nwu-sports-bounces at tssi.com [mailto:nwu-sports-bounces at tssi.com]
On Behalf Of neonrye at aol.com
Sent: Tuesday, February 28, 2012 1:19 PM
To: Jonathan Hodges; nwu-sports-bounces at tssi.com; Aaron Ament
Cc: nwu-sports at tssi.com
Subject: Re: [NU Sports] New Palm projections

Teddy Greenstein analyzes our "bubble" chances in today's Trib.  Says we
need at least 2 more wins.  Frankly, this stuff is almost as mysterious
as the College of Cardinals choosing a new Pope.  Maybe if we see a
Purple puff of smoke on Selection Sunday, we will be "in".:-) Sent from
my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry

-----Original Message-----
From: Jonathan Hodges <j-hodges at alumni.northwestern.edu>
Sender: nwu-sports-bounces at tssi.com
Date: Tue, 28 Feb 2012 13:10:09
To: Aaron Ament<aaronsament at gmail.com>
Cc: nwu-sports-bounces at tssi.com<nwu-sports-bounces at tssi.com>;
nwu-sports at tssi.com<nwu-sports at tssi.com>
Subject: Re: [NU Sports] New Palm projections

In that scenario (L to OSU and at Iowa, but W first round Big Ten
tourney game and L second round game), NU COULD very well get in, but
they'd be in a much more difficult situation and a lot would depend on
how other bubble teams do.

Like I've said in earlier messages, the committee could care less how
many teams a given conference has in the tournament: they don't assign,
say, 7 slots to the Big Ten and then use conference standings to fill in
those teams - they pick from the entire field of available teams and
things like conference standing and even conference record have little
to no bearing on their decisions, since those statistics only compare
teams within the conference and not from the entire nation.  I'd
encourage looking at this SI article from last year that goes through
the selection process (the NCAA set up a mock session for reporters):
http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2011/writers/andy_staples/02/21/mock.to
urnament.selection/index.html

In any case, NU still has work to do before it punches a ticket
anywhere, and there are certainly no gimmes.

Jonathan

--
Jonathan Hodges
Contributor, HailToPurple
Web: http://www.hailtopurple.com/jhodges/
Twitter: @hailtopurple
Email: j-hodges at alumni.northwestern.edu



On Tue, Feb 28, 2012 at 12:47 PM, Aaron Ament <aaronsament at gmail.com>
wrote:

> I disagree with that.  If we lose to Iowa and win the first round 
> game, I believe we are in.  The Big Ten will get 7 teams and it's 
> tough to see anyone jumping us in that scenario.
>
>
>
> On Feb 28, 2012, at 12:42 PM, Jonathan Hodges < 
> j-hodges at alumni.northwestern.edu> wrote:
>
> > Note that Palm, like most other bracketologists out there uses the 
> > "if
> the
> > season ended today" theory to fill out the brackets.  So, this 
> > projection does not include the probable loss to OSU as well as a 
> > probable loss in
> the
> > Big Ten tournament.
> >
> > But, consensus says that NU will get in with a win over Iowa & in 
> > the opening round of the Big Ten tournament.  A second conf tourney 
> > win or
> win
> > over OSU would pretty much lock NU in.  A loss in either of those 
> > "needed victory" games would likely put NU on the wrong side of the
bubble.
> >
> > NU's best traits (in the eyes of the selection committee) are that 
> > they have no "bad" losses (e.g. losses to RPI 100+ teams) and have 
> > an
> extremely
> > tough strength of schedule.  This makes winning those 2 "needed
victory"
> > games that much more important, but they'll clearly be tough: Iowa 
> > is playing extremely well right now and NU has to travel, and the 
> > Big Ten tourney game is, of course, a neutral site game and who 
> > knows what can happen there.
> >
> > If NU doesn't cement itself by winning at least 3 more games, a lot 
> > will likely depend on what other bubble teams do and if there are 
> > any big
> upsets
> > in some of the "1-bid" league tournaments where an "in" team is 
> > upset (thereby taking away an at large spot).
> >
> > BTW, the NU blog Sippin on Purple has been doing a nice job of 
> > summing up NU's position in bracketology while also keeping up with 
> > the other bubble action, here's the most recent post:
> >
> http://www.sippinonpurple.com/2012/2/27/2827547/northwestern-ncaa-tour
> nament-bracketology-update-february-27-2012
> >
> > Jonathan
> >
> >
> > --
> > Jonathan Hodges
> > Contributor, HailToPurple
> > Web: http://www.hailtopurple.com/jhodges/
> > Twitter: @hailtopurple
> > Email: j-hodges at alumni.northwestern.edu
> >
> >
> >
> > On Tue, Feb 28, 2012 at 12:31 PM, <hakirsch at aol.com> wrote:
> >
> >> If we get an NCAA berth, I will gladly take it. But if we can get 
> >> in
> with
> >> a 7-11 conference record then there really has been berth inflation
> >>
> >> We got our first post season berth in 1983 in the NIT with a 7-11 
> >> record as well, when the BT had recently won 3 national titles 
> >> (1976,1979,1981) and had 2 teams in the final 4 in 1980).  Back 
> >> then there were 48 NCAA teams and 32 NIT.  We were one of the last 
> >> picks making therefore
> making us
> >> close to #80.
> >>
> >> Harry
> >> Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry
> >>
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From: "Weinbaum, Willie" <Willie.Weinbaum at espn.com>
> >> Sender: nwu-sports-bounces at tssi.com
> >> Date: Tue, 28 Feb 2012 12:23:09
> >> Cc: nwu-sports at tssi.com<nwu-sports at tssi.com>
> >> Subject: Re: [NU Sports] New Palm projections
> >>
> >> Brings to mind what Al Davis would have said, with two games left 
> >> in the regular season:
> >>
> >> "Just Win, Baby."
> >>
> >> (In NYC, related to the Knicks, it's "Just Lin, Baby.")
> >>
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From: nwu-sports-bounces at tssi.com 
> >> [mailto:nwu-sports-bounces at tssi.com]
> On
> >> Behalf Of Aaron Ament
> >> Sent: Tuesday, February 28, 2012 12:21 PM
> >> To: Beamsley, Jeff
> >> Cc: nwu-sports at tssi.com
> >> Subject: [NU Sports] New Palm projections
> >>
> >> CBS Sportsline just released new projections with us as an 11 seed
> playing
> >> in Louisville!  Now not even one of the last four teams in...
> >>
> >>
> >> On Feb 28, 2012, at 10:54 AM, "Beamsley, Jeff" <
> Jeff.Beamsley at covisint.com>
> >> wrote:
> >>
> >>> Tyus Jones DOES have a long list of offers.
> >>>
> >>> Doesn't appear that NU is in the running.
> >>>
> >>> Jeff
> >>>
> >>> -----Original Message-----
> >>> From: nwu-sports-bounces at tssi.com 
> >>> [mailto:nwu-sports-bounces at tssi.com]
> >>> On Behalf Of Joe Thiegs
> >>> Sent: Tuesday, February 28, 2012 10:49 AM
> >>> To: Jim Bendat
> >>> Cc: nwu-sports at tssi.com
> >>> Subject: Re: [NU Sports] Possible NU recruit scores 71 in high 
> >>> school game
> >>>
> >>> I saw this on the local news but didn't know he was being 
> >>> recruited by NU until your post, Jim.  Maybe the best stat is that

> >>> he was 13-14 from the free throw line.  :)  Broman averaged 37.9 
> >>> ppg last year as a sophomore and was averaging 45.8 ppg after nine

> >>> games earlier this year (in mid-January, well before this game)!  
> >>> See 
> >>> http://espn.go.com/blog/high-school/boys-basketball/post/_/id/2249
> >>> /esp nh s-players-of-the-week-jan-11-2012under
> >>> "Midwest."  Not all against the greatest opposition but, still, he

> >>> definitely can shoot. I'm sure he'll garner more attention now, 
> >>> but let's hope the 'Cats can land him.
> >>>
> >>> Probably the best high school player in Minnesota right now is 
> >>> Tyus Jones of Apple Valley, a sophomore and a 5-star recruit, 
> >>> rated the third-best player in the country in the class of 2014.  
> >>> He already has offers from Izzo, Matta, Tubby, Krzyzewski, etc.
> >>> http://espn.go.com/college-sports/basketball/recruiting/player/_/i
> >>> d/11
> >>> 26
> >>> 17/tyus-jones
> >>>
> >>> -Joe
> >>> **
> >>>
> >>> On Mon, Feb 27, 2012 at 10:15 PM, Jim Bendat 
> >>> <thehaze at earthlink.net>
> >>> wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> This kid is a high school junior right now. 71 points in any game

> >>>> is
> >>> no
> >>>> small matter!
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>> http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/highschool-prep-rally/somehow-minnes
> >>> ota- st ar-anders-broman-scores-71-points-200757408.html
> >>>>
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From nolan at tssi.com  Tue Feb 28 13:22:20 2012
From: nolan at tssi.com (Mike Nolan)
Date: Tue, 28 Feb 2012 13:22:20 -0600 (CST)
Subject: [NU Sports] New Palm projections
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> This whole focus of RPI does also explain why the BT pretty reliably
> sends 7 teams to the dance.  If you assume that the BT is going to
> produce at least four top twenty-five teams (there are five this year),
> that means that everyone else in the conference plays those teams twice.
> So automatically, every team in the conference is going to have at least
> 4 road games and more importantly 4 home games against top 25 teams.

Not necessarily, the Big Ten doesn't play a double RR schedule, so
some teams might only have one game against a ranked team, not
necessarily home/home games.  
--
Mike Nolan


From bwdolphin146 at yahoo.com  Tue Feb 28 13:27:35 2012
From: bwdolphin146 at yahoo.com (bwdolphin146 at yahoo.com)
Date: Tue, 28 Feb 2012 19:27:35 +0000
Subject: [NU Sports] One way for NU's RPI to rise without the 'Cats doing a
	thing
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Is for teams NU has played to do well. So we should root for Seton Hall, Baylor, Creighton, LSU, and even Michigan State and Purdue to finish strongly (of course not against NU in the league tournament) which could a small but key RPI boost. 

Brad Wilson
Sent on the Sprint? Now Network from my BlackBerry?

From aaronsament at gmail.com  Tue Feb 28 13:39:56 2012
From: aaronsament at gmail.com (Aaron Ament)
Date: Tue, 28 Feb 2012 14:39:56 -0500
Subject: [NU Sports] New Palm projections
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"Awareness" does not imply relevance, and countless actual past tournament fields are evidence against your claim"

This is where I think you are very wrong.  The overall conference RPI ranking is very relevant.   

While they may not set in stone the number of bids for each conference, what examples of these past NCAAs are you referring to?  How many years has the Big Ten been ranked the strongest conference and had 6 or fewer invites?



On Feb 28, 2012, at 1:57 PM, Eric C West <e-west at northwestern.edu> wrote:

> You can make all the assertions you want (and your gambling habits are your business), but if NU loses its next two games the NCAA won't be searching around for some other Big Ten team to be the 7th in the field. "Awareness" does not imply relevance, and countless actual past tournament fields are evidence against your claim. Think about it: every year, people always gripe, "How could the committee put in X teams from This Conference and only Y teams in from That Conference?" Because it doesn't work that way, and it never has.
> 
> Beyond that, I'm not sure why anyone is surprised that nothing is set in stone yet. There must be close to a thousand games left to play before the selection show, and nearly all of them have some sort of effect on where the "cut line" will eventually be. What I wouldn't give to see the Wildcats forget about what might be "enough" and just win.
> 
> Eric West
> e-west at northwestern.edu
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: nwu-sports-bounces at tssi.com [mailto:nwu-sports-bounces at tssi.com] On Behalf Of Aaron Ament
> Sent: Tuesday, February 28, 2012 12:38 PM
> To: Jonathan Hodges
> Cc: nwu-sports-bounces at tssi.com; nwu-sports at tssi.com
> Subject: Re: [NU Sports] New Palm projections
> 
> Regardless of what some past committee members say publicly, I can assure you most of them are very aware of how many teams each conference is receiving.  And I am willing to bet anyone that there is no way they will give the Big East 9 teams and the Big Ten 6.
> 
> Also, has any BCS school with an RPI in the mid-40s and a signature win over a number 1 or 2 seed ever been left out?
> 
> As the article Jonathan links to points out, it may be difficult for a reporter to follow what's going on at the conf level when things are moving that quickly in the committee room in a mock selection.  I can assure you for a University AD on the committee that it is not.
> 
> 
> On Feb 28, 2012, at 1:10 PM, Jonathan Hodges <j-hodges at alumni.northwestern.edu> wrote:
> 
>> In that scenario (L to OSU and at Iowa, but W first round Big Ten tourney game and L second round game), NU COULD very well get in, but they'd be in a much more difficult situation and a lot would depend on how other bubble teams do.
>> 
>> Like I've said in earlier messages, the committee could care less how 
>> many teams a given conference has in the tournament: they don't 
>> assign, say, 7 slots to the Big Ten and then use conference standings 
>> to fill in those teams - they pick from the entire field of available 
>> teams and things like conference standing and even conference record 
>> have little to no bearing on their decisions, since those statistics 
>> only compare teams within the conference and not from the entire 
>> nation.  I'd encourage looking at this SI article from last year that 
>> goes through the selection process (the NCAA set up a mock session for 
>> reporters): 
>> http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2011/writers/andy_staples/02/21/mock.
>> tournament.selection/index.html
>> 
>> In any case, NU still has work to do before it punches a ticket anywhere, and there are certainly no gimmes.
>> 
>> Jonathan
>> 
>> --
>> Jonathan Hodges
>> Contributor, HailToPurple
>> Web: http://www.hailtopurple.com/jhodges/
>> Twitter: @hailtopurple
>> Email: j-hodges at alumni.northwestern.edu
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> On Tue, Feb 28, 2012 at 12:47 PM, Aaron Ament <aaronsament at gmail.com> wrote:
>> I disagree with that.  If we lose to Iowa and win the first round game, I believe we are in.  The Big Ten will get 7 teams and it's tough to see anyone jumping us in that scenario.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> On Feb 28, 2012, at 12:42 PM, Jonathan Hodges <j-hodges at alumni.northwestern.edu> wrote:
>> 
>>> Note that Palm, like most other bracketologists out there uses the 
>>> "if the season ended today" theory to fill out the brackets.  So, 
>>> this projection does not include the probable loss to OSU as well as 
>>> a probable loss in the Big Ten tournament.
>>> 
>>> But, consensus says that NU will get in with a win over Iowa & in 
>>> the opening round of the Big Ten tournament.  A second conf tourney 
>>> win or win over OSU would pretty much lock NU in.  A loss in either 
>>> of those "needed victory" games would likely put NU on the wrong side of the bubble.
>>> 
>>> NU's best traits (in the eyes of the selection committee) are that 
>>> they have no "bad" losses (e.g. losses to RPI 100+ teams) and have 
>>> an extremely tough strength of schedule.  This makes winning those 2 "needed victory"
>>> games that much more important, but they'll clearly be tough: Iowa 
>>> is playing extremely well right now and NU has to travel, and the 
>>> Big Ten tourney game is, of course, a neutral site game and who 
>>> knows what can happen there.
>>> 
>>> If NU doesn't cement itself by winning at least 3 more games, a lot 
>>> will likely depend on what other bubble teams do and if there are 
>>> any big upsets in some of the "1-bid" league tournaments where an 
>>> "in" team is upset (thereby taking away an at large spot).
>>> 
>>> BTW, the NU blog Sippin on Purple has been doing a nice job of 
>>> summing up NU's position in bracketology while also keeping up with 
>>> the other bubble action, here's the most recent post:
>>> http://www.sippinonpurple.com/2012/2/27/2827547/northwestern-ncaa-to
>>> urnament-bracketology-update-february-27-2012
>>> 
>>> Jonathan
>>> 
>>> 
>>> --
>>> Jonathan Hodges
>>> Contributor, HailToPurple
>>> Web: http://www.hailtopurple.com/jhodges/
>>> Twitter: @hailtopurple
>>> Email: j-hodges at alumni.northwestern.edu
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On Tue, Feb 28, 2012 at 12:31 PM, <hakirsch at aol.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>>> If we get an NCAA berth, I will gladly take it. But if we can get 
>>>> in with a 7-11 conference record then there really has been berth 
>>>> inflation
>>>> 
>>>> We got our first post season berth in 1983 in the NIT with a 7-11 
>>>> record as well, when the BT had recently won 3 national titles 
>>>> (1976,1979,1981) and had 2 teams in the final 4 in 1980).  Back 
>>>> then there were 48 NCAA teams and 32 NIT.  We were one of the last 
>>>> picks making therefore making us close to #80.
>>>> 
>>>> Harry
>>>> Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry
>>>> 
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: "Weinbaum, Willie" <Willie.Weinbaum at espn.com>
>>>> Sender: nwu-sports-bounces at tssi.com
>>>> Date: Tue, 28 Feb 2012 12:23:09
>>>> Cc: nwu-sports at tssi.com<nwu-sports at tssi.com>
>>>> Subject: Re: [NU Sports] New Palm projections
>>>> 
>>>> Brings to mind what Al Davis would have said, with two games left 
>>>> in the regular season:
>>>> 
>>>> "Just Win, Baby."
>>>> 
>>>> (In NYC, related to the Knicks, it's "Just Lin, Baby.")
>>>> 
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: nwu-sports-bounces at tssi.com 
>>>> [mailto:nwu-sports-bounces at tssi.com] On Behalf Of Aaron Ament
>>>> Sent: Tuesday, February 28, 2012 12:21 PM
>>>> To: Beamsley, Jeff
>>>> Cc: nwu-sports at tssi.com
>>>> Subject: [NU Sports] New Palm projections
>>>> 
>>>> CBS Sportsline just released new projections with us as an 11 seed 
>>>> playing in Louisville!  Now not even one of the last four teams in...
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> On Feb 28, 2012, at 10:54 AM, "Beamsley, Jeff" 
>>>> <Jeff.Beamsley at covisint.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> Tyus Jones DOES have a long list of offers.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Doesn't appear that NU is in the running.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Jeff
>>>>> 
>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>> From: nwu-sports-bounces at tssi.com 
>>>>> [mailto:nwu-sports-bounces at tssi.com]
>>>>> On Behalf Of Joe Thiegs
>>>>> Sent: Tuesday, February 28, 2012 10:49 AM
>>>>> To: Jim Bendat
>>>>> Cc: nwu-sports at tssi.com
>>>>> Subject: Re: [NU Sports] Possible NU recruit scores 71 in high 
>>>>> school game
>>>>> 
>>>>> I saw this on the local news but didn't know he was being 
>>>>> recruited by NU until your post, Jim.  Maybe the best stat is that 
>>>>> he was 13-14 from the free throw line.  :)  Broman averaged 37.9 
>>>>> ppg last year as a sophomore and was averaging 45.8 ppg after nine 
>>>>> games earlier this year (in mid-January, well before this game)!  
>>>>> See 
>>>>> http://espn.go.com/blog/high-school/boys-basketball/post/_/id/2249
>>>>> /esp nh s-players-of-the-week-jan-11-2012under
>>>>> "Midwest."  Not all against the greatest opposition but, still, he 
>>>>> definitely can shoot. I'm sure he'll garner more attention now, 
>>>>> but let's hope the 'Cats can land him.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Probably the best high school player in Minnesota right now is 
>>>>> Tyus Jones of Apple Valley, a sophomore and a 5-star recruit, 
>>>>> rated the third-best player in the country in the class of 2014.  
>>>>> He already has offers from Izzo, Matta, Tubby, Krzyzewski, etc.
>>>>> http://espn.go.com/college-sports/basketball/recruiting/player/_/i
>>>>> d/11
>>>>> 26
>>>>> 17/tyus-jones
>>>>> 
>>>>> -Joe
>>>>> **
>>>>> 
>>>>> On Mon, Feb 27, 2012 at 10:15 PM, Jim Bendat 
>>>>> <thehaze at earthlink.net>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>>> This kid is a high school junior right now. 71 points in any game 
>>>>>> is
>>>>> no
>>>>>> small matter!
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>> http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/highschool-prep-rally/somehow-minnes
>>>>> ota- st ar-anders-broman-scores-71-points-200757408.html
>>>>>> 
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From Jeff.Beamsley at covisint.com  Tue Feb 28 13:53:07 2012
From: Jeff.Beamsley at covisint.com (Beamsley, Jeff)
Date: Tue, 28 Feb 2012 14:53:07 -0500
Subject: [NU Sports] New Palm projections
In-Reply-To: <20120228192220.85E1865633@romaine.tssi.com>
References: <37BBE4FEDCA6A1479A65BA8A020B14BC5701DF@nasa-dtw-ex006.nasa.cpwr.corp>
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You're right.  With 5 ranked teams, though it did pretty much work out
that all of the unranked teams except NU and UNL had eight games against
ranked teams.  

Illinois - 4 home 4 road
Purdue - 4 home 4 road
Iowa - 4 home 4 road
Minny - 4 home 4 road
Nebraska - 4 home 3 road
NU - 3 home 4 road
PSU - 3 home 5 road

This still remains a little bit simplistic because the rankings do
change through the year, but I think that the overall premise holds.  As
long as the BT continues to produce good teams that are nationally
ranked at the top of the conference, that means that those teams in the
middle of the conference are going to end up with RPI's strong enough to
get them invited to the dance every year.  

Jeff

-----Original Message-----
From: Mike Nolan [mailto:nolan at tssi.com] 
Sent: Tuesday, February 28, 2012 2:22 PM
To: Beamsley, Jeff
Cc: Weinbaum Willie; nwu-sports at tssi.com
Subject: Re: [NU Sports] New Palm projections

> This whole focus of RPI does also explain why the BT pretty reliably
> sends 7 teams to the dance.  If you assume that the BT is going to
> produce at least four top twenty-five teams (there are five this
year),
> that means that everyone else in the conference plays those teams
twice.
> So automatically, every team in the conference is going to have at
least
> 4 road games and more importantly 4 home games against top 25 teams.

Not necessarily, the Big Ten doesn't play a double RR schedule, so
some teams might only have one game against a ranked team, not
necessarily home/home games.  
--
Mike Nolan


From aaronsament at gmail.com  Tue Feb 28 14:04:41 2012
From: aaronsament at gmail.com (Aaron Ament)
Date: Tue, 28 Feb 2012 15:04:41 -0500
Subject: [NU Sports] New Palm projections
In-Reply-To: <37BBE4FEDCA6A1479A65BA8A020B14BC5701ED@nasa-dtw-ex006.nasa.cpwr.corp>
References: <37BBE4FEDCA6A1479A65BA8A020B14BC5701DF@nasa-dtw-ex006.nasa.cpwr.corp>
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That is an interesting breakdown and one not discussed much.  I agree with that overall premise.  

On another note, is there any update on whether Luka will play at least a few minutes in the Big Ten tourney?  We could use a few extra minutes and fouls down low...

On Feb 28, 2012, at 2:53 PM, "Beamsley, Jeff" <Jeff.Beamsley at covisint.com> wrote:

> You're right.  With 5 ranked teams, though it did pretty much work out
> that all of the unranked teams except NU and UNL had eight games against
> ranked teams.  
> 
> Illinois - 4 home 4 road
> Purdue - 4 home 4 road
> Iowa - 4 home 4 road
> Minny - 4 home 4 road
> Nebraska - 4 home 3 road
> NU - 3 home 4 road
> PSU - 3 home 5 road
> 
> This still remains a little bit simplistic because the rankings do
> change through the year, but I think that the overall premise holds.  As
> long as the BT continues to produce good teams that are nationally
> ranked at the top of the conference, that means that those teams in the
> middle of the conference are going to end up with RPI's strong enough to
> get them invited to the dance every year.  
> 
> Jeff
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Mike Nolan [mailto:nolan at tssi.com] 
> Sent: Tuesday, February 28, 2012 2:22 PM
> To: Beamsley, Jeff
> Cc: Weinbaum Willie; nwu-sports at tssi.com
> Subject: Re: [NU Sports] New Palm projections
> 
>> This whole focus of RPI does also explain why the BT pretty reliably
>> sends 7 teams to the dance.  If you assume that the BT is going to
>> produce at least four top twenty-five teams (there are five this
> year),
>> that means that everyone else in the conference plays those teams
> twice.
>> So automatically, every team in the conference is going to have at
> least
>> 4 road games and more importantly 4 home games against top 25 teams.
> 
> Not necessarily, the Big Ten doesn't play a double RR schedule, so
> some teams might only have one game against a ranked team, not
> necessarily home/home games.  
> --
> Mike Nolan
> 
> _______________________________________________
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From tkmaycock at yahoo.com  Tue Feb 28 14:05:22 2012
From: tkmaycock at yahoo.com (Tom Maycock)
Date: Tue, 28 Feb 2012 12:05:22 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [NU Sports] New Palm projections
In-Reply-To: <37BBE4FEDCA6A1479A65BA8A020B14BC5701ED@nasa-dtw-ex006.nasa.cpwr.corp>
References: <37BBE4FEDCA6A1479A65BA8A020B14BC5701DF@nasa-dtw-ex006.nasa.cpwr.corp>
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All the speculation is entertaining, but how 'bout we just beat OSU, Iowa, and then win a couple in the tourney for good measure. That should take care of everything, right?

The important question is: should NU break out the black uni's for the OSU game?

Tom


From alan.abrahamson at gmail.com  Tue Feb 28 14:12:24 2012
From: alan.abrahamson at gmail.com (Alan Abrahamson)
Date: Tue, 28 Feb 2012 12:12:24 -0800
Subject: [NU Sports] New Palm projections
In-Reply-To: <270B560B-943C-42A0-B731-2852B27D13FD@gmail.com>
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Oh, for sure we can count on Luka to deliver the fouls :)

Rooting big-time for the Cats. I am a lifer. Both parents are NU
grads. I *only* have 36 years of direct personal involvement in
no-Tourney basketball -- started as a Medill freshman in 1976.

Bring on the big, bad Buckeyes!

Sent from my iPhone

On Feb 28, 2012, at 12:04 PM, Aaron Ament <aaronsament at gmail.com> wrote:

> That is an interesting breakdown and one not discussed much.  I agree with that overall premise.
>
> On another note, is there any update on whether Luka will play at least a few minutes in the Big Ten tourney?  We could use a few extra minutes and fouls down low...
>
> On Feb 28, 2012, at 2:53 PM, "Beamsley, Jeff" <Jeff.Beamsley at covisint.com> wrote:
>
>> You're right.  With 5 ranked teams, though it did pretty much work out
>> that all of the unranked teams except NU and UNL had eight games against
>> ranked teams.
>>
>> Illinois - 4 home 4 road
>> Purdue - 4 home 4 road
>> Iowa - 4 home 4 road
>> Minny - 4 home 4 road
>> Nebraska - 4 home 3 road
>> NU - 3 home 4 road
>> PSU - 3 home 5 road
>>
>> This still remains a little bit simplistic because the rankings do
>> change through the year, but I think that the overall premise holds.  As
>> long as the BT continues to produce good teams that are nationally
>> ranked at the top of the conference, that means that those teams in the
>> middle of the conference are going to end up with RPI's strong enough to
>> get them invited to the dance every year.
>>
>> Jeff
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Mike Nolan [mailto:nolan at tssi.com]
>> Sent: Tuesday, February 28, 2012 2:22 PM
>> To: Beamsley, Jeff
>> Cc: Weinbaum Willie; nwu-sports at tssi.com
>> Subject: Re: [NU Sports] New Palm projections
>>
>>> This whole focus of RPI does also explain why the BT pretty reliably
>>> sends 7 teams to the dance.  If you assume that the BT is going to
>>> produce at least four top twenty-five teams (there are five this
>> year),
>>> that means that everyone else in the conference plays those teams
>> twice.
>>> So automatically, every team in the conference is going to have at
>> least
>>> 4 road games and more importantly 4 home games against top 25 teams.
>>
>> Not necessarily, the Big Ten doesn't play a double RR schedule, so
>> some teams might only have one game against a ranked team, not
>> necessarily home/home games.
>> --
>> Mike Nolan
>>
>> _______________________________________________
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>> nwu-sports at tssi.com
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From neonrye at aol.com  Tue Feb 28 14:50:14 2012
From: neonrye at aol.com (neonrye at aol.com)
Date: Tue, 28 Feb 2012 15:50:14 -0500 (EST)
Subject: [NU Sports] New Palm projections
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I have to make one observation here.  I don't think, in all my years on the List, that I have ever seen such a continuous "conversation" about basketball.  Yes, we have had our moments, but generally, it is football that consumes most of us and generates the most "buzz" on the List.

However, being on the "cusp of history", has brought out the analyses--big-time--as we fret and speculate about the possibilty of our beloved 'Cats entering the Promised Land after 70 years of wandering in the desert.  It's a beautiful thing, and if somehow we can communally celebrate on Selection Sunday, it would be amazing.  I can't put out of my mind the vision of our team, Coach Carmody and about 4,000 or so students rejoicing at Welsh-Ryan after NU's putative "bid" is confirmed and our "bracket" is posted, while the "Talking Heads" at CBS and ESPN ruminate on NU's historic journey.  It will--at least for me--be a moment unlike any other, except when we made the Rose Bowl.

I know I shouldn't even utter these words out loud, let alone post them here--but I just can't help myself.  It's too exciting a prospect to cast aside.

Our time is now.  So seize the moment, Mr. Carmody, Mr. Shurna, Mr. Crawford, Mr. Sobolewski, Mr. Hearn, Mr. Marcotullio, Mr. Cobb, Mr. Corletti and crew--and join Mr. Barnett, Mr. Fitzgerald, Mr. Autry, Mr. Schnur and their teammates in the Pantheon of 'Cat fame and accomplishment.

Go 'Cats!

Paul Levinson (Not Sleepless, But Daydreaming, in NYC)



-----Original Message-----
From: Alan Abrahamson <alan.abrahamson at gmail.com>
To: Aaron Ament <aaronsament at gmail.com>
Cc: nwu-sports <nwu-sports at tssi.com>
Sent: Tue, Feb 28, 2012 3:13 pm
Subject: Re: [NU Sports] New Palm projections


Oh, for sure we can count on Luka to deliver the fouls :)
Rooting big-time for the Cats. I am a lifer. Both parents are NU
rads. I *only* have 36 years of direct personal involvement in
o-Tourney basketball -- started as a Medill freshman in 1976.
Bring on the big, bad Buckeyes!
Sent from my iPhone
On Feb 28, 2012, at 12:04 PM, Aaron Ament <aaronsament at gmail.com> wrote:
> That is an interesting breakdown and one not discussed much.  I agree with 
hat overall premise.

 On another note, is there any update on whether Luka will play at least a few 
inutes in the Big Ten tourney?  We could use a few extra minutes and fouls down 
ow...

 On Feb 28, 2012, at 2:53 PM, "Beamsley, Jeff" <Jeff.Beamsley at covisint.com> 
rote:

> You're right.  With 5 ranked teams, though it did pretty much work out
> that all of the unranked teams except NU and UNL had eight games against
> ranked teams.
>
> Illinois - 4 home 4 road
> Purdue - 4 home 4 road
> Iowa - 4 home 4 road
> Minny - 4 home 4 road
> Nebraska - 4 home 3 road
> NU - 3 home 4 road
> PSU - 3 home 5 road
>
> This still remains a little bit simplistic because the rankings do
> change through the year, but I think that the overall premise holds.  As
> long as the BT continues to produce good teams that are nationally
> ranked at the top of the conference, that means that those teams in the
> middle of the conference are going to end up with RPI's strong enough to
> get them invited to the dance every year.
>
> Jeff
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Mike Nolan [mailto:nolan at tssi.com]
> Sent: Tuesday, February 28, 2012 2:22 PM
> To: Beamsley, Jeff
> Cc: Weinbaum Willie; nwu-sports at tssi.com
> Subject: Re: [NU Sports] New Palm projections
>
>> This whole focus of RPI does also explain why the BT pretty reliably
>> sends 7 teams to the dance.  If you assume that the BT is going to
>> produce at least four top twenty-five teams (there are five this
> year),
>> that means that everyone else in the conference plays those teams
> twice.
>> So automatically, every team in the conference is going to have at
> least
>> 4 road games and more importantly 4 home games against top 25 teams.
>
> Not necessarily, the Big Ten doesn't play a double RR schedule, so
> some teams might only have one game against a ranked team, not
> necessarily home/home games.
> --
> Mike Nolan
>
> _______________________________________________
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From Jeff.Beamsley at covisint.com  Tue Feb 28 14:55:50 2012
From: Jeff.Beamsley at covisint.com (Beamsley, Jeff)
Date: Tue, 28 Feb 2012 15:55:50 -0500
Subject: [NU Sports] New Palm projections
In-Reply-To: <8CEC471B418B688-B64-4072@webmail-d066.sysops.aol.com>
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The "buzz" extends well beyond our little crew of NU faithful.

I spoke with and OSU fan here at work, and he's pulling for NU to beat
OSU too.  He said it won't make much difference to how OSU is seeded,
but it will clearly make a huge difference for NU.  An exact quote, "NU
has a nice team this year.  It's time they get an invite."

I agree.

It's time.

Starts tomorrow.

Jeff

-----Original Message-----
From: nwu-sports-bounces at tssi.com [mailto:nwu-sports-bounces at tssi.com]
On Behalf Of neonrye at aol.com
Sent: Tuesday, February 28, 2012 3:50 PM
To: alan.abrahamson at gmail.com; aaronsament at gmail.com
Cc: nwu-sports at tssi.com
Subject: Re: [NU Sports] New Palm projections


I have to make one observation here.  I don't think, in all my years on
the List, that I have ever seen such a continuous "conversation" about
basketball.  Yes, we have had our moments, but generally, it is football
that consumes most of us and generates the most "buzz" on the List.

However, being on the "cusp of history", has brought out the
analyses--big-time--as we fret and speculate about the possibilty of our
beloved 'Cats entering the Promised Land after 70 years of wandering in
the desert.  It's a beautiful thing, and if somehow we can communally
celebrate on Selection Sunday, it would be amazing.  I can't put out of
my mind the vision of our team, Coach Carmody and about 4,000 or so
students rejoicing at Welsh-Ryan after NU's putative "bid" is confirmed
and our "bracket" is posted, while the "Talking Heads" at CBS and ESPN
ruminate on NU's historic journey.  It will--at least for me--be a
moment unlike any other, except when we made the Rose Bowl.

I know I shouldn't even utter these words out loud, let alone post them
here--but I just can't help myself.  It's too exciting a prospect to
cast aside.

Our time is now.  So seize the moment, Mr. Carmody, Mr. Shurna, Mr.
Crawford, Mr. Sobolewski, Mr. Hearn, Mr. Marcotullio, Mr. Cobb, Mr.
Corletti and crew--and join Mr. Barnett, Mr. Fitzgerald, Mr. Autry, Mr.
Schnur and their teammates in the Pantheon of 'Cat fame and
accomplishment.

Go 'Cats!

Paul Levinson (Not Sleepless, But Daydreaming, in NYC)



-----Original Message-----
From: Alan Abrahamson <alan.abrahamson at gmail.com>
To: Aaron Ament <aaronsament at gmail.com>
Cc: nwu-sports <nwu-sports at tssi.com>
Sent: Tue, Feb 28, 2012 3:13 pm
Subject: Re: [NU Sports] New Palm projections


Oh, for sure we can count on Luka to deliver the fouls :)
Rooting big-time for the Cats. I am a lifer. Both parents are NU
rads. I *only* have 36 years of direct personal involvement in
o-Tourney basketball -- started as a Medill freshman in 1976.
Bring on the big, bad Buckeyes!
Sent from my iPhone
On Feb 28, 2012, at 12:04 PM, Aaron Ament <aaronsament at gmail.com> wrote:
> That is an interesting breakdown and one not discussed much.  I agree
with 
hat overall premise.

 On another note, is there any update on whether Luka will play at least
a few 
inutes in the Big Ten tourney?  We could use a few extra minutes and
fouls down 
ow...

 On Feb 28, 2012, at 2:53 PM, "Beamsley, Jeff"
<Jeff.Beamsley at covisint.com> 
rote:

> You're right.  With 5 ranked teams, though it did pretty much work out
> that all of the unranked teams except NU and UNL had eight games
against
> ranked teams.
>
> Illinois - 4 home 4 road
> Purdue - 4 home 4 road
> Iowa - 4 home 4 road
> Minny - 4 home 4 road
> Nebraska - 4 home 3 road
> NU - 3 home 4 road
> PSU - 3 home 5 road
>
> This still remains a little bit simplistic because the rankings do
> change through the year, but I think that the overall premise holds.
As
> long as the BT continues to produce good teams that are nationally
> ranked at the top of the conference, that means that those teams in
the
> middle of the conference are going to end up with RPI's strong enough
to
> get them invited to the dance every year.
>
> Jeff
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Mike Nolan [mailto:nolan at tssi.com]
> Sent: Tuesday, February 28, 2012 2:22 PM
> To: Beamsley, Jeff
> Cc: Weinbaum Willie; nwu-sports at tssi.com
> Subject: Re: [NU Sports] New Palm projections
>
>> This whole focus of RPI does also explain why the BT pretty reliably
>> sends 7 teams to the dance.  If you assume that the BT is going to
>> produce at least four top twenty-five teams (there are five this
> year),
>> that means that everyone else in the conference plays those teams
> twice.
>> So automatically, every team in the conference is going to have at
> least
>> 4 road games and more importantly 4 home games against top 25 teams.
>
> Not necessarily, the Big Ten doesn't play a double RR schedule, so
> some teams might only have one game against a ranked team, not
> necessarily home/home games.
> --
> Mike Nolan
>
> _______________________________________________
> nwu-sports site list
> nwu-sports at tssi.com
> http://romaine.tssi.com/mailman/listinfo/nwu-sports

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From hakirsch at aol.com  Tue Feb 28 14:59:45 2012
From: hakirsch at aol.com (hakirsch at aol.com)
Date: Tue, 28 Feb 2012 20:59:45 +0000
Subject: [NU Sports] New Palm projections
In-Reply-To: <8CEC471B418B688-B64-4072@webmail-d066.sysops.aol.com>
References: <37BBE4FEDCA6A1479A65BA8A020B14BC5701DF@nasa-dtw-ex006.nasa.cpwr.corp>
 <20120228192220.85E1865633@romaine.tssi.com>
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Yes a berth   would be a cause for celebration. If it is second to the Rose Bowl it would be a distant second  Going undefeated in the BT when there were prior  years of the losing streak  and when getting a first down evoked mock cheers of "Rose Bowl", was incredible. Not to mention, not just a bowl game but THE  Bowl game and going in as the #3 team in the nation. It will be hard to surpass that as an NU fan

Harry
Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry

-----Original Message-----
From: neonrye at aol.com
Sender: nwu-sports-bounces at tssi.com
Date: Tue, 28 Feb 2012 15:50:14 
To: <alan.abrahamson at gmail.com>; <aaronsament at gmail.com>
Cc: <nwu-sports at tssi.com>
Subject: Re: [NU Sports] New Palm projections


I have to make one observation here.  I don't think, in all my years on the List, that I have ever seen such a continuous "conversation" about basketball.  Yes, we have had our moments, but generally, it is football that consumes most of us and generates the most "buzz" on the List.

However, being on the "cusp of history", has brought out the analyses--big-time--as we fret and speculate about the possibilty of our beloved 'Cats entering the Promised Land after 70 years of wandering in the desert.  It's a beautiful thing, and if somehow we can communally celebrate on Selection Sunday, it would be amazing.  I can't put out of my mind the vision of our team, Coach Carmody and about 4,000 or so students rejoicing at Welsh-Ryan after NU's putative "bid" is confirmed and our "bracket" is posted, while the "Talking Heads" at CBS and ESPN ruminate on NU's historic journey.  It will--at least for me--be a moment unlike any other, except when we made the Rose Bowl.

I know I shouldn't even utter these words out loud, let alone post them here--but I just can't help myself.  It's too exciting a prospect to cast aside.

Our time is now.  So seize the moment, Mr. Carmody, Mr. Shurna, Mr. Crawford, Mr. Sobolewski, Mr. Hearn, Mr. Marcotullio, Mr. Cobb, Mr. Corletti and crew--and join Mr. Barnett, Mr. Fitzgerald, Mr. Autry, Mr. Schnur and their teammates in the Pantheon of 'Cat fame and accomplishment.

Go 'Cats!

Paul Levinson (Not Sleepless, But Daydreaming, in NYC)



-----Original Message-----
From: Alan Abrahamson <alan.abrahamson at gmail.com>
To: Aaron Ament <aaronsament at gmail.com>
Cc: nwu-sports <nwu-sports at tssi.com>
Sent: Tue, Feb 28, 2012 3:13 pm
Subject: Re: [NU Sports] New Palm projections


Oh, for sure we can count on Luka to deliver the fouls :)
Rooting big-time for the Cats. I am a lifer. Both parents are NU
rads. I *only* have 36 years of direct personal involvement in
o-Tourney basketball -- started as a Medill freshman in 1976.
Bring on the big, bad Buckeyes!
Sent from my iPhone
On Feb 28, 2012, at 12:04 PM, Aaron Ament <aaronsament at gmail.com> wrote:
> That is an interesting breakdown and one not discussed much.  I agree with 
hat overall premise.

 On another note, is there any update on whether Luka will play at least a few 
inutes in the Big Ten tourney?  We could use a few extra minutes and fouls down 
ow...

 On Feb 28, 2012, at 2:53 PM, "Beamsley, Jeff" <Jeff.Beamsley at covisint.com> 
rote:

> You're right.  With 5 ranked teams, though it did pretty much work out
> that all of the unranked teams except NU and UNL had eight games against
> ranked teams.
>
> Illinois - 4 home 4 road
> Purdue - 4 home 4 road
> Iowa - 4 home 4 road
> Minny - 4 home 4 road
> Nebraska - 4 home 3 road
> NU - 3 home 4 road
> PSU - 3 home 5 road
>
> This still remains a little bit simplistic because the rankings do
> change through the year, but I think that the overall premise holds.  As
> long as the BT continues to produce good teams that are nationally
> ranked at the top of the conference, that means that those teams in the
> middle of the conference are going to end up with RPI's strong enough to
> get them invited to the dance every year.
>
> Jeff
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Mike Nolan [mailto:nolan at tssi.com]
> Sent: Tuesday, February 28, 2012 2:22 PM
> To: Beamsley, Jeff
> Cc: Weinbaum Willie; nwu-sports at tssi.com
> Subject: Re: [NU Sports] New Palm projections
>
>> This whole focus of RPI does also explain why the BT pretty reliably
>> sends 7 teams to the dance.  If you assume that the BT is going to
>> produce at least four top twenty-five teams (there are five this
> year),
>> that means that everyone else in the conference plays those teams
> twice.
>> So automatically, every team in the conference is going to have at
> least
>> 4 road games and more importantly 4 home games against top 25 teams.
>
> Not necessarily, the Big Ten doesn't play a double RR schedule, so
> some teams might only have one game against a ranked team, not
> necessarily home/home games.
> --
> Mike Nolan
>
> _______________________________________________
> nwu-sports site list
> nwu-sports at tssi.com
> http://romaine.tssi.com/mailman/listinfo/nwu-sports

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From e-west at northwestern.edu  Tue Feb 28 15:05:08 2012
From: e-west at northwestern.edu (Eric C West)
Date: Tue, 28 Feb 2012 21:05:08 +0000
Subject: [NU Sports] New Palm projections
In-Reply-To: <178270701-1330462787-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-105801199-@b11.c7.bise6.blackberry>
References: <37BBE4FEDCA6A1479A65BA8A020B14BC5701DF@nasa-dtw-ex006.nasa.cpwr.corp>
 <20120228192220.85E1865633@romaine.tssi.com>
 <37BBE4FEDCA6A1479A65BA8A020B14BC5701ED@nasa-dtw-ex006.nasa.cpwr.corp>
 <270B560B-943C-42A0-B731-2852B27D13FD@gmail.com>
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Message-ID: <945C0FA6304FAD4EBC3F417287FA98C1360E75@evcspmbx4.ads.northwestern.edu>

And, of course, the biggest difference: if Ohio State had beaten Michigan in 1995 to keep NU from the Rose Bowl, no one would have called for Gary Barnett to be fired. ;)

Eric West
e-west at northwestern.edu


-----Original Message-----
From: nwu-sports-bounces at tssi.com [mailto:nwu-sports-bounces at tssi.com] On Behalf Of hakirsch at aol.com
Sent: Tuesday, February 28, 2012 3:00 PM
To: neonrye at aol.com; nwu-sports-bounces at tssi.com; alan.abrahamson at gmail.com; aaronsament at gmail.com
Cc: nwu-sports at tssi.com
Subject: Re: [NU Sports] New Palm projections

Yes a berth   would be a cause for celebration. If it is second to the Rose Bowl it would be a distant second  Going undefeated in the BT when there were prior  years of the losing streak  and when getting a first down evoked mock cheers of "Rose Bowl", was incredible. Not to mention, not just a bowl game but THE  Bowl game and going in as the #3 team in the nation. It will be hard to surpass that as an NU fan

Harry
Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry

-----Original Message-----
From: neonrye at aol.com
Sender: nwu-sports-bounces at tssi.com
Date: Tue, 28 Feb 2012 15:50:14 
To: <alan.abrahamson at gmail.com>; <aaronsament at gmail.com>
Cc: <nwu-sports at tssi.com>
Subject: Re: [NU Sports] New Palm projections


I have to make one observation here.  I don't think, in all my years on the List, that I have ever seen such a continuous "conversation" about basketball.  Yes, we have had our moments, but generally, it is football that consumes most of us and generates the most "buzz" on the List.

However, being on the "cusp of history", has brought out the analyses--big-time--as we fret and speculate about the possibilty of our beloved 'Cats entering the Promised Land after 70 years of wandering in the desert.  It's a beautiful thing, and if somehow we can communally celebrate on Selection Sunday, it would be amazing.  I can't put out of my mind the vision of our team, Coach Carmody and about 4,000 or so students rejoicing at Welsh-Ryan after NU's putative "bid" is confirmed and our "bracket" is posted, while the "Talking Heads" at CBS and ESPN ruminate on NU's historic journey.  It will--at least for me--be a moment unlike any other, except when we made the Rose Bowl.

I know I shouldn't even utter these words out loud, let alone post them here--but I just can't help myself.  It's too exciting a prospect to cast aside.

Our time is now.  So seize the moment, Mr. Carmody, Mr. Shurna, Mr. Crawford, Mr. Sobolewski, Mr. Hearn, Mr. Marcotullio, Mr. Cobb, Mr. Corletti and crew--and join Mr. Barnett, Mr. Fitzgerald, Mr. Autry, Mr. Schnur and their teammates in the Pantheon of 'Cat fame and accomplishment.

Go 'Cats!

Paul Levinson (Not Sleepless, But Daydreaming, in NYC)



-----Original Message-----
From: Alan Abrahamson <alan.abrahamson at gmail.com>
To: Aaron Ament <aaronsament at gmail.com>
Cc: nwu-sports <nwu-sports at tssi.com>
Sent: Tue, Feb 28, 2012 3:13 pm
Subject: Re: [NU Sports] New Palm projections


Oh, for sure we can count on Luka to deliver the fouls :)
Rooting big-time for the Cats. I am a lifer. Both parents are NU
rads. I *only* have 36 years of direct personal involvement in
o-Tourney basketball -- started as a Medill freshman in 1976.
Bring on the big, bad Buckeyes!
Sent from my iPhone
On Feb 28, 2012, at 12:04 PM, Aaron Ament <aaronsament at gmail.com> wrote:
> That is an interesting breakdown and one not discussed much.  I agree with 
hat overall premise.

 On another note, is there any update on whether Luka will play at least a few 
inutes in the Big Ten tourney?  We could use a few extra minutes and fouls down 
ow...

 On Feb 28, 2012, at 2:53 PM, "Beamsley, Jeff" <Jeff.Beamsley at covisint.com> 
rote:

> You're right.  With 5 ranked teams, though it did pretty much work out
> that all of the unranked teams except NU and UNL had eight games against
> ranked teams.
>
> Illinois - 4 home 4 road
> Purdue - 4 home 4 road
> Iowa - 4 home 4 road
> Minny - 4 home 4 road
> Nebraska - 4 home 3 road
> NU - 3 home 4 road
> PSU - 3 home 5 road
>
> This still remains a little bit simplistic because the rankings do
> change through the year, but I think that the overall premise holds.  As
> long as the BT continues to produce good teams that are nationally
> ranked at the top of the conference, that means that those teams in the
> middle of the conference are going to end up with RPI's strong enough to
> get them invited to the dance every year.
>
> Jeff
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Mike Nolan [mailto:nolan at tssi.com]
> Sent: Tuesday, February 28, 2012 2:22 PM
> To: Beamsley, Jeff
> Cc: Weinbaum Willie; nwu-sports at tssi.com
> Subject: Re: [NU Sports] New Palm projections
>
>> This whole focus of RPI does also explain why the BT pretty reliably
>> sends 7 teams to the dance.  If you assume that the BT is going to
>> produce at least four top twenty-five teams (there are five this
> year),
>> that means that everyone else in the conference plays those teams
> twice.
>> So automatically, every team in the conference is going to have at
> least
>> 4 road games and more importantly 4 home games against top 25 teams.
>
> Not necessarily, the Big Ten doesn't play a double RR schedule, so
> some teams might only have one game against a ranked team, not
> necessarily home/home games.
> --
> Mike Nolan
>
> _______________________________________________
> nwu-sports site list
> nwu-sports at tssi.com
> http://romaine.tssi.com/mailman/listinfo/nwu-sports

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From whosonfirst81 at yahoo.com  Tue Feb 28 15:04:36 2012
From: whosonfirst81 at yahoo.com (Ben Adler)
Date: Tue, 28 Feb 2012 13:04:36 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [NU Sports] New Palm projections
In-Reply-To: <37BBE4FEDCA6A1479A65BA8A020B14BC57020B@nasa-dtw-ex006.nasa.cpwr.corp>
References: <37BBE4FEDCA6A1479A65BA8A020B14BC5701DF@nasa-dtw-ex006.nasa.cpwr.corp><20120228192220.85E1865633@romaine.tssi.com><37BBE4FEDCA6A1479A65BA8A020B14BC5701ED@nasa-dtw-ex006.nasa.cpwr.corp><270B560B-943C-42A0-B731-2852B27D13FD@gmail.com>
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Message-ID: <1330463076.35432.YahooMailNeo@web164506.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>

That has got to be the nicest Buckeye fan in the history of the world.? And an endangered species.



________________________________
From: "Beamsley, Jeff" <Jeff.Beamsley at covisint.com>
To: neonrye at aol.com; alan.abrahamson at gmail.com; aaronsament at gmail.com 
Cc: nwu-sports at tssi.com 
Sent: Tuesday, February 28, 2012 12:55 PM
Subject: Re: [NU Sports] New Palm projections

The "buzz" extends well beyond our little crew of NU faithful.

I spoke with and OSU fan here at work, and he's pulling for NU to beat
OSU too.? He said it won't make much difference to how OSU is seeded,
but it will clearly make a huge difference for NU.? An exact quote, "NU
has a nice team this year.? It's time they get an invite."

I agree.

It's time.

Starts tomorrow.

Jeff

-----Original Message-----
From: nwu-sports-bounces at tssi.com [mailto:nwu-sports-bounces at tssi.com]
On Behalf Of neonrye at aol.com
Sent: Tuesday, February 28, 2012 3:50 PM
To: alan.abrahamson at gmail.com; aaronsament at gmail.com
Cc: nwu-sports at tssi.com
Subject: Re: [NU Sports] New Palm projections


I have to make one observation here.? I don't think, in all my years on
the List, that I have ever seen such a continuous "conversation" about
basketball.? Yes, we have had our moments, but generally, it is football
that consumes most of us and generates the most "buzz" on the List.

However, being on the "cusp of history", has brought out the
analyses--big-time--as we fret and speculate about the possibilty of our
beloved 'Cats entering the Promised Land after 70 years of wandering in
the desert.? It's a beautiful thing, and if somehow we can communally
celebrate on Selection Sunday, it would be amazing.? I can't put out of
my mind the vision of our team, Coach Carmody and about 4,000 or so
students rejoicing at Welsh-Ryan after NU's putative "bid" is confirmed
and our "bracket" is posted, while the "Talking Heads" at CBS and ESPN
ruminate on NU's historic journey.? It will--at least for me--be a
moment unlike any other, except when we made the Rose Bowl.

I know I shouldn't even utter these words out loud, let alone post them
here--but I just can't help myself.? It's too exciting a prospect to
cast aside.

Our time is now.? So seize the moment, Mr. Carmody, Mr. Shurna, Mr.
Crawford, Mr. Sobolewski, Mr. Hearn, Mr. Marcotullio, Mr. Cobb, Mr.
Corletti and crew--and join Mr. Barnett, Mr. Fitzgerald, Mr. Autry, Mr.
Schnur and their teammates in the Pantheon of 'Cat fame and
accomplishment.

Go 'Cats!

Paul Levinson (Not Sleepless, But Daydreaming, in NYC)



-----Original Message-----
From: Alan Abrahamson <alan.abrahamson at gmail.com>
To: Aaron Ament <aaronsament at gmail.com>
Cc: nwu-sports <nwu-sports at tssi.com>
Sent: Tue, Feb 28, 2012 3:13 pm
Subject: Re: [NU Sports] New Palm projections


Oh, for sure we can count on Luka to deliver the fouls :)
Rooting big-time for the Cats. I am a lifer. Both parents are NU
rads. I *only* have 36 years of direct personal involvement in
o-Tourney basketball -- started as a Medill freshman in 1976.
Bring on the big, bad Buckeyes!
Sent from my iPhone
On Feb 28, 2012, at 12:04 PM, Aaron Ament <aaronsament at gmail.com> wrote:
> That is an interesting breakdown and one not discussed much.? I agree
with 
hat overall premise.

On another note, is there any update on whether Luka will play at least
a few 
inutes in the Big Ten tourney?? We could use a few extra minutes and
fouls down 
ow...

On Feb 28, 2012, at 2:53 PM, "Beamsley, Jeff"
<Jeff.Beamsley at covisint.com> 
rote:

> You're right.? With 5 ranked teams, though it did pretty much work out
> that all of the unranked teams except NU and UNL had eight games
against
> ranked teams.
>
> Illinois - 4 home 4 road
> Purdue - 4 home 4 road
> Iowa - 4 home 4 road
> Minny - 4 home 4 road
> Nebraska - 4 home 3 road
> NU - 3 home 4 road
> PSU - 3 home 5 road
>
> This still remains a little bit simplistic because the rankings do
> change through the year, but I think that the overall premise holds.
As
> long as the BT continues to produce good teams that are nationally
> ranked at the top of the conference, that means that those teams in
the
> middle of the conference are going to end up with RPI's strong enough
to
> get them invited to the dance every year.
>
> Jeff
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Mike Nolan [mailto:nolan at tssi.com]
> Sent: Tuesday, February 28, 2012 2:22 PM
> To: Beamsley, Jeff
> Cc: Weinbaum Willie; nwu-sports at tssi.com
> Subject: Re: [NU Sports] New Palm projections
>
>> This whole focus of RPI does also explain why the BT pretty reliably
>> sends 7 teams to the dance.? If you assume that the BT is going to
>> produce at least four top twenty-five teams (there are five this
> year),
>> that means that everyone else in the conference plays those teams
> twice.
>> So automatically, every team in the conference is going to have at
> least
>> 4 road games and more importantly 4 home games against top 25 teams.
>
> Not necessarily, the Big Ten doesn't play a double RR schedule, so
> some teams might only have one game against a ranked team, not
> necessarily home/home games.
> --
> Mike Nolan
>
> _______________________________________________
> nwu-sports site list
> nwu-sports at tssi.com
> http://romaine.tssi.com/mailman/listinfo/nwu-sports

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From bwdolphin146 at yahoo.com  Tue Feb 28 15:08:20 2012
From: bwdolphin146 at yahoo.com (bwdolphin146 at yahoo.com)
Date: Tue, 28 Feb 2012 21:08:20 +0000
Subject: [NU Sports] The iowa game is the key
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NU has to win that one. Beating OSU and then losing to Iowa would be a disaster and negate the OSU win. 

Have to beat Iowa. Really nothing else matters if NU doesn't beat the Hawkeyes. And based on the last road performance .... uhhhhh .... 

I am not as optimistic as many of you are. It's NU hoops. They'll find a way, if a way can be found ... to folly. 

That said, go 'Cats!!!

Brad Wilson 
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From Willie.Weinbaum at espn.com  Tue Feb 28 15:32:29 2012
From: Willie.Weinbaum at espn.com (Weinbaum, Willie)
Date: Tue, 28 Feb 2012 16:32:29 -0500
Subject: [NU Sports] The iowa game is the key
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If nothing else, the hoops history of futility (such as no winning B1G seasons since 1968 and only one since the year of my birth, 1960) have taught me that the cliches of "taking it one game at a time" and "statistics are for losers" are wholly applicable to Cats fans' lot in life.  I have to leave to others any notions at any point in a season of chalking up wins in advance, looking past an opponent or counting on a tournament berth.  

But maybe, just maybe, the unaccustomed great fortune in the unlikely ending at Penn State (two missed PSU FTs with :14 left and two made NU FTs after a foul on a double team with :2.6 left) will carry over...
If, after all of this year's heartbreakers, the Cats can somehow pull off three straight wins (stun ranked OSU, defeat Hawkeyes @ Iowa on senior day and take the B1G tourney opener) to reach 20 Ws and have their first Big Ten winning streak of four games in forever, THAT would be a helluva noteworthy accomplishment and ensure a first berth in the NCAAs.  

Just violated what I said at the top.  Yes, a Cat's got to dream, but it's hazardous to an NU fan's health to ever look ahead.  :)

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NU has to win that one. Beating OSU and then losing to Iowa would be a disaster and negate the OSU win.

Have to beat Iowa. Really nothing else matters if NU doesn't beat the Hawkeyes. And based on the last road performance .... uhhhhh ....

I am not as optimistic as many of you are. It's NU hoops. They'll find a way, if a way can be found ... to folly.

That said, go 'Cats!!!

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From wildelk2 at aol.com  Tue Feb 28 20:58:41 2012
From: wildelk2 at aol.com (Eric Kunkel)
Date: Tue, 28 Feb 2012 21:58:41 -0500 (EST)
Subject: [NU Sports] New Palm projections
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Ditto.  If we win (2) more games this season we're in; no matter who and how.  If we beat OSU and lose to Iowa, we need to go 1-1 in the tournement at worst.    elk


-----Original Message-----
From: Aaron Ament <aaronsament at gmail.com>
To: Jonathan Hodges <j-hodges at alumni.northwestern.edu>
Cc: nwu-sports-bounces <nwu-sports-bounces at tssi.com>; nwu-sports <nwu-sports at tssi.com>
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I disagree with that.  If we lose to Iowa and win the first round game, I 
elieve we are in.  The Big Ten will get 7 teams and it's tough to see anyone 
umping us in that scenario.

On Feb 28, 2012, at 12:42 PM, Jonathan Hodges <j-hodges at alumni.northwestern.edu> 
rote:
> Note that Palm, like most other bracketologists out there uses the "if the
 season ended today" theory to fill out the brackets.  So, this projection
 does not include the probable loss to OSU as well as a probable loss in the
 Big Ten tournament.
 
 But, consensus says that NU will get in with a win over Iowa & in the
 opening round of the Big Ten tournament.  A second conf tourney win or win
 over OSU would pretty much lock NU in.  A loss in either of those "needed
 victory" games would likely put NU on the wrong side of the bubble.
 
 NU's best traits (in the eyes of the selection committee) are that they
 have no "bad" losses (e.g. losses to RPI 100+ teams) and have an extremely
 tough strength of schedule.  This makes winning those 2 "needed victory"
 games that much more important, but they'll clearly be tough: Iowa is
 playing extremely well right now and NU has to travel, and the Big Ten
 tourney game is, of course, a neutral site game and who knows what can
 happen there.
 
 If NU doesn't cement itself by winning at least 3 more games, a lot will
 likely depend on what other bubble teams do and if there are any big upsets
 in some of the "1-bid" league tournaments where an "in" team is upset
 (thereby taking away an at large spot).
 
 BTW, the NU blog Sippin on Purple has been doing a nice job of summing up
 NU's position in bracketology while also keeping up with the other bubble
 action, here's the most recent post:
 http://www.sippinonpurple.com/2012/2/27/2827547/northwestern-ncaa-tournament-bracketology-update-february-27-2012
 
 Jonathan
 
 
 --
 Jonathan Hodges
 Contributor, HailToPurple
 Web: http://www.hailtopurple.com/jhodges/
 Twitter: @hailtopurple
 Email: j-hodges at alumni.northwestern.edu
 
 
 
 On Tue, Feb 28, 2012 at 12:31 PM, <hakirsch at aol.com> wrote:
 
> If we get an NCAA berth, I will gladly take it. But if we can get in with
> a 7-11 conference record then there really has been berth inflation
> 
> We got our first post season berth in 1983 in the NIT with a 7-11 record
> as well, when the BT had recently won 3 national titles (1976,1979,1981)
> and had 2 teams in the final 4 in 1980).  Back then there were 48 NCAA
> teams and 32 NIT.  We were one of the last picks making therefore making us
> close to #80.
> 
> Harry
> Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: "Weinbaum, Willie" <Willie.Weinbaum at espn.com>
> Sender: nwu-sports-bounces at tssi.com
> Date: Tue, 28 Feb 2012 12:23:09
> Cc: nwu-sports at tssi.com<nwu-sports at tssi.com>
> Subject: Re: [NU Sports] New Palm projections
> 
> Brings to mind what Al Davis would have said, with two games left in the
> regular season:
> 
> "Just Win, Baby."
> 
> (In NYC, related to the Knicks, it's "Just Lin, Baby.")
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: nwu-sports-bounces at tssi.com [mailto:nwu-sports-bounces at tssi.com] On
> Behalf Of Aaron Ament
> Sent: Tuesday, February 28, 2012 12:21 PM
> To: Beamsley, Jeff
> Cc: nwu-sports at tssi.com
> Subject: [NU Sports] New Palm projections
> 
> CBS Sportsline just released new projections with us as an 11 seed playing
> in Louisville!  Now not even one of the last four teams in...
> 
> 
> On Feb 28, 2012, at 10:54 AM, "Beamsley, Jeff" <Jeff.Beamsley at covisint.com>
> wrote:
> 
>> Tyus Jones DOES have a long list of offers.
>> 
>> Doesn't appear that NU is in the running.
>> 
>> Jeff
>> 
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: nwu-sports-bounces at tssi.com [mailto:nwu-sports-bounces at tssi.com]
>> On Behalf Of Joe Thiegs
>> Sent: Tuesday, February 28, 2012 10:49 AM
>> To: Jim Bendat
>> Cc: nwu-sports at tssi.com
>> Subject: Re: [NU Sports] Possible NU recruit scores 71 in high school
>> game
>> 
>> I saw this on the local news but didn't know he was being recruited by
>> NU until your post, Jim.  Maybe the best stat is that he was 13-14
>> from the free throw line.  :)  Broman averaged 37.9 ppg last year as a
>> sophomore and was averaging 45.8 ppg after nine games earlier this
>> year (in mid-January, well before this game)!  See
>> http://espn.go.com/blog/high-school/boys-basketball/post/_/id/2249/esp
>> nh s-players-of-the-week-jan-11-2012under
>> "Midwest."  Not all against the greatest opposition but, still, he
>> definitely can shoot. I'm sure he'll garner more attention now, but
>> let's hope the 'Cats can land him.
>> 
>> Probably the best high school player in Minnesota right now is Tyus
>> Jones of Apple Valley, a sophomore and a 5-star recruit, rated the
>> third-best player in the country in the class of 2014.  He already has
>> offers from Izzo, Matta, Tubby, Krzyzewski, etc.
>> http://espn.go.com/college-sports/basketball/recruiting/player/_/id/11
>> 26
>> 17/tyus-jones
>> 
>> -Joe
>> **
>> 
>> On Mon, Feb 27, 2012 at 10:15 PM, Jim Bendat <thehaze at earthlink.net>
>> wrote:
>> 
>>> This kid is a high school junior right now. 71 points in any game is
>> no
>>> small matter!
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>> http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/highschool-prep-rally/somehow-minnesota-
>> st ar-anders-broman-scores-71-points-200757408.html
>>> 
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From wildelk2 at aol.com  Tue Feb 28 21:04:41 2012
From: wildelk2 at aol.com (Eric Kunkel)
Date: Tue, 28 Feb 2012 22:04:41 -0500 (EST)
Subject: [NU Sports] New Palm projections
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Paul,

   You said what we all are thinking. We all want it so bad; I get goosebumps thinking about the moment the Cats name comes up on Selection Sunday.  And one more thing- it will be story #1 in Chicago, re-affirming our Cats as Chicago's Big 10 team!  

GO CATS!!     Eric

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Sent: Tue, Feb 28, 2012 3:51 pm
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 have to make one observation here.  I don't think, in all my years on the 
ist, that I have ever seen such a continuous "conversation" about basketball.  
es, we have had our moments, but generally, it is football that consumes most 
f us and generates the most "buzz" on the List.
However, being on the "cusp of history", has brought out the 
nalyses--big-time--as we fret and speculate about the possibilty of our beloved 
Cats entering the Promised Land after 70 years of wandering in the desert.  
t's a beautiful thing, and if somehow we can communally celebrate on Selection 
unday, it would be amazing.  I can't put out of my mind the vision of our team, 
oach Carmody and about 4,000 or so students rejoicing at Welsh-Ryan after NU's 
utative "bid" is confirmed and our "bracket" is posted, while the "Talking 
eads" at CBS and ESPN ruminate on NU's historic journey.  It will--at least for 
e--be a moment unlike any other, except when we made the Rose Bowl.
I know I shouldn't even utter these words out loud, let alone post them 
ere--but I just can't help myself.  It's too exciting a prospect to cast aside.
Our time is now.  So seize the moment, Mr. Carmody, Mr. Shurna, Mr. Crawford, 
r. Sobolewski, Mr. Hearn, Mr. Marcotullio, Mr. Cobb, Mr. Corletti and crew--and 
oin Mr. Barnett, Mr. Fitzgerald, Mr. Autry, Mr. Schnur and their teammates in 
he Pantheon of 'Cat fame and accomplishment.
Go 'Cats!
Paul Levinson (Not Sleepless, But Daydreaming, in NYC)

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o: Aaron Ament <aaronsament at gmail.com>
c: nwu-sports <nwu-sports at tssi.com>
ent: Tue, Feb 28, 2012 3:13 pm
ubject: Re: [NU Sports] New Palm projections

h, for sure we can count on Luka to deliver the fouls :)
ooting big-time for the Cats. I am a lifer. Both parents are NU
ads. I *only* have 36 years of direct personal involvement in
-Tourney basketball -- started as a Medill freshman in 1976.
ring on the big, bad Buckeyes!
ent from my iPhone
n Feb 28, 2012, at 12:04 PM, Aaron Ament <aaronsament at gmail.com> wrote:
 That is an interesting breakdown and one not discussed much.  I agree with 
at overall premise.
 On another note, is there any update on whether Luka will play at least a few 
nutes in the Big Ten tourney?  We could use a few extra minutes and fouls down 
w...
 On Feb 28, 2012, at 2:53 PM, "Beamsley, Jeff" <Jeff.Beamsley at covisint.com> 
ote:
> You're right.  With 5 ranked teams, though it did pretty much work out
 that all of the unranked teams except NU and UNL had eight games against
 ranked teams.

 Illinois - 4 home 4 road
 Purdue - 4 home 4 road
 Iowa - 4 home 4 road
 Minny - 4 home 4 road
 Nebraska - 4 home 3 road
 NU - 3 home 4 road
 PSU - 3 home 5 road

 This still remains a little bit simplistic because the rankings do
 change through the year, but I think that the overall premise holds.  As
 long as the BT continues to produce good teams that are nationally
 ranked at the top of the conference, that means that those teams in the
 middle of the conference are going to end up with RPI's strong enough to
 get them invited to the dance every year.

 Jeff

 -----Original Message-----
 From: Mike Nolan [mailto:nolan at tssi.com]
 Sent: Tuesday, February 28, 2012 2:22 PM
 To: Beamsley, Jeff
 Cc: Weinbaum Willie; nwu-sports at tssi.com
 Subject: Re: [NU Sports] New Palm projections

> This whole focus of RPI does also explain why the BT pretty reliably
> sends 7 teams to the dance.  If you assume that the BT is going to
> produce at least four top twenty-five teams (there are five this
 year),
> that means that everyone else in the conference plays those teams
 twice.
> So automatically, every team in the conference is going to have at
 least
> 4 road games and more importantly 4 home games against top 25 teams.

 Not necessarily, the Big Ten doesn't play a double RR schedule, so
 some teams might only have one game against a ranked team, not
 necessarily home/home games.
 --
 Mike Nolan

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From Willie.Weinbaum at espn.com  Wed Feb 29 06:23:30 2012
From: Willie.Weinbaum at espn.com (Weinbaum, Willie)
Date: Wed, 29 Feb 2012 07:23:30 -0500
Subject: [NU Sports] 2p E today - Wildcat Fast Break reair
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Reair of last night's "Wildcat Fast Break" on CSN (665 DirecTV) - revisits the win @ Penn State and Coach Carmody's postgame locker room speech to the team, has a look back at John Shurna's record-setting game against Minnesota and what Billy McKinney said about him...and Carmody looks ahead to tonight's game and Saturday's.

From Willie.Weinbaum at espn.com  Wed Feb 29 06:51:36 2012
From: Willie.Weinbaum at espn.com (Weinbaum, Willie)
Date: Wed, 29 Feb 2012 07:51:36 -0500
Subject: [NU Sports] =?utf-8?q?FW=3A_Shurna=2C_Northwestern_searching_for_?=
 =?utf-8?q?first_NCAA_tournament_bid_=E2=80=93_USATODAY=2Ecom?=
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http://www.usatoday.com/sports/college/mensbasketball/bigten/story/2012-02-28/northwestern-ncaa-tournament/53292620/1

From nolan at tssi.com  Wed Feb 29 10:21:06 2012
From: nolan at tssi.com (Mike Nolan)
Date: Wed, 29 Feb 2012 10:21:06 -0600 (CST)
Subject: [NU Sports] New Palm projections
In-Reply-To: <8CEC4A60406C030-16FC-5F31@webmail-d012.sysops.aol.com>
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>    You said what we all are thinking. We all want it so bad; I get goosebumps thinking about 
> the moment the Cats name comes up on Selection Sunday.  And one more thing- 
> it will be story #1 in Chicago, re-affirming our Cats as Chicago's Big 10 team!  

I suspect/fear the media will not make a big fuss over it, or not for long.
--
Mike Nolan


From hakirsch at aol.com  Wed Feb 29 10:57:29 2012
From: hakirsch at aol.com (hakirsch at aol.com)
Date: Wed, 29 Feb 2012 16:57:29 +0000
Subject: [NU Sports] FWIW
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Betting line on tonight's game has dropped to 7 1/2 points. Word must be out that the Cats really want this one badly

Harry
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To: Eric Kunkel
Cc: nwu-sports at tssi.com
Subject: Re: [NU Sports] New Palm projections
Sent: Feb 29, 2012 8:21 AM

>    You said what we all are thinking. We all want it so bad; I get goosebumps thinking about 
> the moment the Cats name comes up on Selection Sunday.  And one more thing- 
> it will be story #1 in Chicago, re-affirming our Cats as Chicago's Big 10 team!  

I suspect/fear the media will not make a big fuss over it, or not for long.
--
Mike Nolan

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From alan.abrahamson at gmail.com  Wed Feb 29 12:45:37 2012
From: alan.abrahamson at gmail.com (Alan Abrahamson)
Date: Wed, 29 Feb 2012 10:45:37 -0800
Subject: [NU Sports] New Palm projections
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Just recalling some of these collapses makes me want to go retch right now
in technicolor purple even while I get geeked for our big win tonight
against the Buckeyes!

http://espn.go.com/blog/statsinfo/post/_/id/39419/never-say-never-for-northwestern



On Wed, Feb 29, 2012 at 8:21 AM, Mike Nolan <nolan at tssi.com> wrote:

> >    You said what we all are thinking. We all want it so bad; I get
> goosebumps thinking about
> > the moment the Cats name comes up on Selection Sunday.  And one more
> thing-
> > it will be story #1 in Chicago, re-affirming our Cats as Chicago's Big
> 10 team!
>
> I suspect/fear the media will not make a big fuss over it, or not for long.
> --
> Mike Nolan
>
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From tmcadams at yahoo.com  Wed Feb 29 13:00:43 2012
From: tmcadams at yahoo.com (Trey McAdams)
Date: Wed, 29 Feb 2012 11:00:43 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [NU Sports] Silly Request but I will ask anyway
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I was expecting to be out of town tonight, but since I am in town.

Anyone with an extra single ticket to tonight's slightly big game?

I am already wearing a purple dress shirt.

Trey

From neonrye at aol.com  Wed Feb 29 13:26:46 2012
From: neonrye at aol.com (neonrye at aol.com)
Date: Wed, 29 Feb 2012 14:26:46 -0500 (EST)
Subject: [NU Sports] Another "Dance" Projection
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Dick Weiss, the resident college columnist/guru at The New York Daily News, has the 'Cats in his projected field of 68--as of 2/27:  http://www.nydailynews.com/blogs/weiss/2012/02/ncaa-mens-basketball-tournament-field-of-68-as-projected-by-daily-news-dick-weiss

From hakirsch at aol.com  Wed Feb 29 20:25:56 2012
From: hakirsch at aol.com (hakirsch at aol.com)
Date: Thu, 1 Mar 2012 02:25:56 +0000
Subject: [NU Sports] (no subject)
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Unfortunately I can't get the game where I'm at right now. But saw stats that showed us out rebounded 20-3 in first half with half a dozen treys. Looks like carbon copy of so many of our games this year

Harry
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From Willie.Weinbaum at espn.com  Wed Feb 29 20:27:03 2012
From: Willie.Weinbaum at espn.com (Weinbaum, Willie)
Date: Wed, 29 Feb 2012 21:27:03 -0500
Subject: [NU Sports] am going to pretend the game started
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When Shurna hit the trey to end the half & cut the OSU lead to 10.

Otherwise, too much ugliness to think about - - too many failures to block out, defend, hit shots.

Moribund performance and the crowd (at least on TV) seemed to be lulled into apathy.

A sharper, more determined half ahead, or this will be a total downer.

From neonrye at aol.com  Wed Feb 29 20:37:46 2012
From: neonrye at aol.com (neonrye at aol.com)
Date: Thu, 1 Mar 2012 02:37:46 +0000
Subject: [NU Sports] (no subject)
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Right now Harry consider yourself blessed.  We look like OSU is playing on the old elevated hardwood and we're on the new purple floor. The rebounding edge is so bad we look like a burst bubble.

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Unfortunately I can't get the game where I'm at right now. But saw stats that showed us out rebounded 20-3 in first half with half a dozen treys. Looks like carbon copy of so many of our games this year

Harry
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From nolan at tssi.com  Wed Feb 29 20:54:22 2012
From: nolan at tssi.com (Mike Nolan)
Date: Wed, 29 Feb 2012 20:54:22 -0600 (CST)
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> Right now Harry consider yourself blessed.  We look like OSU is playing on the old elevated hardwood and we're on the new purple floor. The rebounding edge is so bad we look like a burst bubble.

And Iowa is leading Nebraska by 4 at the half, so the Huskers aren't doing us any favors.
--
Mike Nolan


From Willie.Weinbaum at espn.com  Wed Feb 29 20:56:29 2012
From: Willie.Weinbaum at espn.com (Weinbaum, Willie)
Date: Wed, 29 Feb 2012 21:56:29 -0500
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Have never seen anything like this - Shurna/Crawford 20 apiece, the rest of the team a total of 8 (Hearn 5 and Cobb 3).  Cats down eight and have the ball.  More than half the half left.

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> Right now Harry consider yourself blessed.  We look like OSU is playing on the old elevated hardwood and we're on the new purple floor. The rebounding edge is so bad we look like a burst bubble.

And Iowa is leading Nebraska by 4 at the half, so the Huskers aren't doing us any favors.
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From neonrye at aol.com  Wed Feb 29 21:17:21 2012
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Date: Thu, 1 Mar 2012 03:17:21 +0000
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 4:42 to go.  Down 7 after Shurna's FT's.  Need a stop--and a 3.
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Have never seen anything like this - Shurna/Crawford 20 apiece, the rest of the team a total of 8 (Hearn 5 and Cobb 3).  Cats down eight and have the ball.  More than half the half left.

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> Right now Harry consider yourself blessed.  We look like OSU is playing on the old elevated hardwood and we're on the new purple floor. The rebounding edge is so bad we look like a burst bubble.

And Iowa is leading Nebraska by 4 at the half, so the Huskers aren't doing us any favors.
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From khaderach at sbcglobal.net  Wed Feb 29 21:33:08 2012
From: khaderach at sbcglobal.net (Bryan Bowser)
Date: Wed, 29 Feb 2012 21:33:08 -0600
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Tied with 7 seconds left!!




On Feb 29, 2012, at 9:17 PM, neonrye at aol.com wrote:

> 4:42 to go.  Down 7 after Shurna's FT's.  Need a stop--and a 3.
> Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry
> 
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> 
> Have never seen anything like this - Shurna/Crawford 20 apiece, the rest of the team a total of 8 (Hearn 5 and Cobb 3).  Cats down eight and have the ball.  More than half the half left.
> 
> ----- Original Message -----
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> Subject: Re: [NU Sports] (no subject)
> 
>> Right now Harry consider yourself blessed.  We look like OSU is playing on the old elevated hardwood and we're on the new purple floor. The rebounding edge is so bad we look like a burst bubble.
> 
> And Iowa is leading Nebraska by 4 at the half, so the Huskers aren't doing us any favors.
> --
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From khaderach at sbcglobal.net  Wed Feb 29 21:37:44 2012
From: khaderach at sbcglobal.net (Bryan Bowser)
Date: Wed, 29 Feb 2012 21:37:44 -0600
Subject: [NU Sports]  So Close
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Lost 75 - 73. We gave them too many easy inside baskets and that cost us at the end. Still, a valiant attempt. I hope they keep spirits up heading into Iowa.


On Feb 29, 2012, at 9:33 PM, Bryan Bowser <khaderach at sbcglobal.net> wrote:

> Tied with 7 seconds left!!
> 
> 
> 
> 
> On Feb 29, 2012, at 9:17 PM, neonrye at aol.com wrote:
> 
>> 4:42 to go.  Down 7 after Shurna's FT's.  Need a stop--and a 3.
>> Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry
>> 
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: "Weinbaum, Willie" <Willie.Weinbaum at espn.com>
>> Sender: nwu-sports-bounces at tssi.com
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>> 
>> Have never seen anything like this - Shurna/Crawford 20 apiece, the rest of the team a total of 8 (Hearn 5 and Cobb 3).  Cats down eight and have the ball.  More than half the half left.
>> 
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: Mike Nolan [mailto:nolan at tssi.com]
>> Sent: Wednesday, February 29, 2012 09:54 PM
>> To: neonrye at aol.com <neonrye at aol.com>
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>> Subject: Re: [NU Sports] (no subject)
>> 
>>> Right now Harry consider yourself blessed.  We look like OSU is playing on the old elevated hardwood and we're on the new purple floor. The rebounding edge is so bad we look like a burst bubble.
>> 
>> And Iowa is leading Nebraska by 4 at the half, so the Huskers aren't doing us any favors.
>> --
>> Mike Nolan
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From Willie.Weinbaum at espn.com  Wed Feb 29 21:39:39 2012
From: Willie.Weinbaum at espn.com (Weinbaum, Willie)
Date: Wed, 29 Feb 2012 22:39:39 -0500
Subject: [NU Sports] So Close
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Microcosm of life as a Cats fan.  Gut-wrenching, from every missed FT to the great comeback and heart, to the heartbreaking defeat.

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Subject: [NU Sports]  So Close

Lost 75 - 73. We gave them too many easy inside baskets and that cost us at the end. Still, a valiant attempt. I hope they keep spirits up heading into Iowa.


On Feb 29, 2012, at 9:33 PM, Bryan Bowser <khaderach at sbcglobal.net> wrote:

> Tied with 7 seconds left!!
> 
> 
> 
> 
> On Feb 29, 2012, at 9:17 PM, neonrye at aol.com wrote:
> 
>> 4:42 to go.  Down 7 after Shurna's FT's.  Need a stop--and a 3.
>> Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry
>> 
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: "Weinbaum, Willie" <Willie.Weinbaum at espn.com>
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>> Date: Wed, 29 Feb 2012 21:56:29 
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>> Subject: Re: [NU Sports] (no subject)
>> 
>> Have never seen anything like this - Shurna/Crawford 20 apiece, the rest of the team a total of 8 (Hearn 5 and Cobb 3).  Cats down eight and have the ball.  More than half the half left.
>> 
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: Mike Nolan [mailto:nolan at tssi.com]
>> Sent: Wednesday, February 29, 2012 09:54 PM
>> To: neonrye at aol.com <neonrye at aol.com>
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>> Subject: Re: [NU Sports] (no subject)
>> 
>>> Right now Harry consider yourself blessed.  We look like OSU is playing on the old elevated hardwood and we're on the new purple floor. The rebounding edge is so bad we look like a burst bubble.
>> 
>> And Iowa is leading Nebraska by 4 at the half, so the Huskers aren't doing us any favors.
>> --
>> Mike Nolan
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From neonrye at aol.com  Wed Feb 29 21:41:58 2012
From: neonrye at aol.com (neonrye at aol.com)
Date: Thu, 1 Mar 2012 03:41:58 +0000
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This was the definition of gut-wrenching loss.  
Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry

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 4:42 to go.  Down 7 after Shurna's FT's.  Need a stop--and a 3.
Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry

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Have never seen anything like this - Shurna/Crawford 20 apiece, the rest of the team a total of 8 (Hearn 5 and Cobb 3).  Cats down eight and have the ball.  More than half the half left.

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> Right now Harry consider yourself blessed.  We look like OSU is playing on the old elevated hardwood and we're on the new purple floor. The rebounding edge is so bad we look like a burst bubble.

And Iowa is leading Nebraska by 4 at the half, so the Huskers aren't doing us any favors.
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From tbng at comcast.net  Wed Feb 29 23:12:44 2012
From: tbng at comcast.net (Dennis W. Brandt)
Date: Thu, 1 Mar 2012 00:12:44 -0500
Subject: [NU Sports] Another heartbreaker
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I never thought we would win this game.  I felt a flutter when Marcotullio hit that three, but I should have known better.  I can't recall ever feeling any other way about NU basketball.

If we only had a center.  Where is the Wizard of Oz when you need him?

