From rstetson at capps-assoc.com  Thu Sep  1 22:19:39 2011
From: rstetson at capps-assoc.com (Roy S. Lamberton)
Date: Thu, 1 Sep 2011 23:19:39 -0400
Subject: [NU Sports] Badgers Reload
Message-ID: <000001cc691f$26d70470$74850d50$@com>

The Wiscy offense looking pretty potent, moving the ball at will against UNLV, even with
the backups playing up front.

The D seems to be open to some good passing, UNLV put up 2 quick TD's in the 4th quarter.

Still an impressive game by the Badgers.

rsl

++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
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Computer Applications & Support Associates
Coach Roy's Random Thoughts - http://coachroy.org
-------------------- Also ----------------------
"Commissioner" Delaware American Legion Baseball
Director Media Relations - Little League 
  Senior League Softball World Series
CTR2 USN (67-70) - CTRCS USNR (Ret) (64-67/70-95)
Northwestern University - Speech 1974 - 
Chi Phi: Pi 1974, KD 1968
Publisher Emeritus: Purple Reign (Fox Sports)
================================================
Opinions expressed above are mine alone and are not
those of any organizations of which I am a member.
------------------------------------------------
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down to vote on what is for dinner."

"You have a republic, madam, if you can keep it"

==========  Go Cats -? Beat 'em All  ===========




From jleonard518 at yahoo.com  Fri Sep  2 09:53:52 2011
From: jleonard518 at yahoo.com (Jim Leonard)
Date: Fri, 2 Sep 2011 07:53:52 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [NU Sports] Happy NU Year
Message-ID: <1314975232.84798.YahooMailNeo@web36805.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

Sons and Daughters,

Welcome to a NU year of Wildcat Football. The long wait is over,
the world is purple again and it's time to play football. Hail to purple, hail
to white, hail to thee Northwestern. 


Our beloved alma mater is poised for another amazing season.
Pat's Cats are ready for a 4th consecutive bowl game. We have the
second most experienced offensive line in college football, more depth at wide
receiver than anyone can remember, and outstanding athletes at every position
on defense. 


It is a special thing to be a part of Northwestern football. We
live by a simple creed, ?In Fitz We Trust.? Fitz is the leader of our program.
#51 was an awesome player and continues to make the purple proud on the
sidelines. He is the reason we reheat our coffee for 51 seconds in the
microwave, he is the reason our student section is known as Area 51, he is the
reason we try to park in space 51 at work, and (although I can?t prove it yet)
he is the reason Northwestern was founded in 1851. 


This year we ?welcome? Nebraskato the Big Ten.
(yawn) Nebraska, just so we are
clear, NorthwesternUniversityis NU. You are at
best UNL (we read left to right in this league). I will also accept USIN (University of Somewhere InNebraska) USIN, Hmmmmm?Was
that a Freudian reference to the sins of your past? My apologies.

Tomorrow our NU year celebration begins with the Boston College
Eagles. CATS EAT BIRDS!!!! I will always have a soft spot in my heart for BC as
they were the victims of my first ever Wildcat victory in 1993. But seriously
BC, I can?t take you seriously. Your best player in history is shorter than I
am and your jerseys are maroon, the poor man?s purple. Whether it?s by
PersaStrong or HurriKain Colter, you?re in for a long day tomorrow. 


Let our NU year begin. This our time and we
are ready. From the dorms and apartments in Evanstonthe students are
cheering, ?Let?s Go Cats!? From Orland Parkto Lincoln Parkto Nevin?s Pub
Chicagoland is cheering, ?Let?s Go Cats!? At alumni gatherings from LA to Austinto Blondie?s in Manhattanthey are proudly
cheering, ?Let?s Go Cats!?? Around the world all members of the purple
pride are loudly cheering, ?LET?S GO CATS!!!!!!!!?
?
Happy NU Year to all. I will see you at the
Rose Bowl. 
?
Victory & Honor,
Jim
?
PS
? Our second annual ?51 for Fitz? campaign will take place on December 2nd. 

From wildelk2 at aol.com  Fri Sep  2 11:39:58 2011
From: wildelk2 at aol.com (Eric Kunkel)
Date: Fri, 2 Sep 2011 12:39:58 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: [NU Sports] Happy NU Year
In-Reply-To: <1314975232.84798.YahooMailNeo@web36805.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
References: <1314975232.84798.YahooMailNeo@web36805.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <8CE37A6164FCC21-13DC-35F41@webmail-d044.sysops.aol.com>


Even as a non-alum of NU, this brought a tear to my eye.  Now let's beat the @#$%^%$#^out of BC!       Eric




-----Original Message-----
From: Jim Leonard <jleonard518 at yahoo.com>
To: j-phillips <j-phillips at northwestern.edu>; polisky <polisky at northwestern.edu>; Northwestern Wildcats <nwu-sports at tssi.com>; brian.kardos <brian.kardos at gmail.com>; laketheposts <laketheposts at gmail.com>
Sent: Fri, Sep 2, 2011 10:54 am
Subject: [NU Sports] Happy NU Year


Sons and Daughters,
Welcome to a NU year of Wildcat Football. The long wait is over,
he world is purple again and it's time to play football. Hail to purple, hail
o white, hail to thee Northwestern. 

ur beloved alma mater is poised for another amazing season.
at's Cats are ready for a 4th consecutive bowl game. We have the
econd most experienced offensive line in college football, more depth at wide
eceiver than anyone can remember, and outstanding athletes at every position
n defense. 

t is a special thing to be a part of Northwestern football. We
ive by a simple creed, ?In Fitz We Trust.? Fitz is the leader of our program.
51 was an awesome player and continues to make the purple proud on the
idelines. He is the reason we reheat our coffee for 51 seconds in the
icrowave, he is the reason our student section is known as Area 51, he is the
eason we try to park in space 51 at work, and (although I can?t prove it yet)
e is the reason Northwestern was founded in 1851. 

his year we ?welcome? Nebraskato the Big Ten.
yawn) Nebraska, just so we are
lear, NorthwesternUniversityis NU. You are at
est UNL (we read left to right in this league). I will also accept USIN 
University of Somewhere InNebraska) USIN, Hmmmmm?Was
hat a Freudian reference to the sins of your past? My apologies.
Tomorrow our NU year celebration begins with the Boston College
agles. CATS EAT BIRDS!!!! I will always have a soft spot in my heart for BC as
hey were the victims of my first ever Wildcat victory in 1993. But seriously
C, I can?t take you seriously. Your best player in history is shorter than I
m and your jerseys are maroon, the poor man?s purple. Whether it?s by
ersaStrong or HurriKain Colter, you?re in for a long day tomorrow. 

et our NU year begin. This our time and we
re ready. From the dorms and apartments in Evanstonthe students are
heering, ?Let?s Go Cats!? From Orland Parkto Lincoln Parkto Nevin?s Pub
hicagoland is cheering, ?Let?s Go Cats!? At alumni gatherings from LA to 
ustinto Blondie?s in Manhattanthey are proudly
heering, ?Let?s Go Cats!?  Around the world all members of the purple
ride are loudly cheering, ?LET?S GO CATS!!!!!!!!?

appy NU Year to all. I will see you at the
ose Bowl. 

ictory & Honor,
im

S
 Our second annual ?51 for Fitz? campaign will take place on December 2nd. 
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From carljrossi at gmail.com  Fri Sep  2 15:47:23 2011
From: carljrossi at gmail.com (Carl Rossi)
Date: Fri, 2 Sep 2011 15:47:23 -0500
Subject: [NU Sports] Happy NU Year
In-Reply-To: <8CE37A6164FCC21-13DC-35F41@webmail-d044.sysops.aol.com>
References: <1314975232.84798.YahooMailNeo@web36805.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
 <8CE37A6164FCC21-13DC-35F41@webmail-d044.sysops.aol.com>
Message-ID: <C778EBD1-155B-4B13-85A8-299EB890A080@gmail.com>

Move Over, Grantland Rice!:)

Carl

Sent from my iPad

On Sep 2, 2011, at 11:39 AM, Eric Kunkel <wildelk2 at aol.com> wrote:

> 
> Even as a non-alum of NU, this brought a tear to my eye.  Now let's beat the @#$%^%$#^out of BC!       Eric
> 
> 
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Jim Leonard <jleonard518 at yahoo.com>
> To: j-phillips <j-phillips at northwestern.edu>; polisky <polisky at northwestern.edu>; Northwestern Wildcats <nwu-sports at tssi.com>; brian.kardos <brian.kardos at gmail.com>; laketheposts <laketheposts at gmail.com>
> Sent: Fri, Sep 2, 2011 10:54 am
> Subject: [NU Sports] Happy NU Year
> 
> 
> Sons and Daughters,
> Welcome to a NU year of Wildcat Football. The long wait is over,
> he world is purple again and it's time to play football. Hail to purple, hail
> o white, hail to thee Northwestern. 
> 
> ur beloved alma mater is poised for another amazing season.
> at's Cats are ready for a 4th consecutive bowl game. We have the
> econd most experienced offensive line in college football, more depth at wide
> eceiver than anyone can remember, and outstanding athletes at every position
> n defense. 
> 
> t is a special thing to be a part of Northwestern football. We
> ive by a simple creed, ?In Fitz We Trust.? Fitz is the leader of our program.
> 51 was an awesome player and continues to make the purple proud on the
> idelines. He is the reason we reheat our coffee for 51 seconds in the
> icrowave, he is the reason our student section is known as Area 51, he is the
> eason we try to park in space 51 at work, and (although I can?t prove it yet)
> e is the reason Northwestern was founded in 1851. 
> 
> his year we ?welcome? Nebraskato the Big Ten.
> yawn) Nebraska, just so we are
> lear, NorthwesternUniversityis NU. You are at
> est UNL (we read left to right in this league). I will also accept USIN 
> University of Somewhere InNebraska) USIN, Hmmmmm?Was
> hat a Freudian reference to the sins of your past? My apologies.
> Tomorrow our NU year celebration begins with the Boston College
> agles. CATS EAT BIRDS!!!! I will always have a soft spot in my heart for BC as
> hey were the victims of my first ever Wildcat victory in 1993. But seriously
> C, I can?t take you seriously. Your best player in history is shorter than I
> m and your jerseys are maroon, the poor man?s purple. Whether it?s by
> ersaStrong or HurriKain Colter, you?re in for a long day tomorrow. 
> 
> et our NU year begin. This our time and we
> re ready. From the dorms and apartments in Evanstonthe students are
> heering, ?Let?s Go Cats!? From Orland Parkto Lincoln Parkto Nevin?s Pub
> hicagoland is cheering, ?Let?s Go Cats!? At alumni gatherings from LA to 
> ustinto Blondie?s in Manhattanthey are proudly
> heering, ?Let?s Go Cats!?  Around the world all members of the purple
> ride are loudly cheering, ?LET?S GO CATS!!!!!!!!?
> 
> appy NU Year to all. I will see you at the
> ose Bowl. 
> 
> ictory & Honor,
> im
> 
> S
> Our second annual ?51 for Fitz? campaign will take place on December 2nd. 
> ______________________________________________
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> wu-sports at tssi.com
> ttp://romaine.tssi.com/mailman/listinfo/nwu-sports
> 
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From nolan at tssi.com  Fri Sep  2 18:40:43 2011
From: nolan at tssi.com (Mike Nolan)
Date: Fri, 2 Sep 2011 18:40:43 -0500 (CDT)
Subject: [NU Sports] Persa listed as 'questionable' for BC game
Message-ID: <20110902234043.E15F264943@romaine.tssi.com>

According to ESPN, Dan Persa is listed as questionable for tomorrow's
season opener at Boston College.
--
Mike Nolan


From scottzel at gmail.com  Fri Sep  2 18:51:25 2011
From: scottzel at gmail.com (Scott Zeller, M.D.)
Date: Fri, 2 Sep 2011 16:51:25 -0700
Subject: [NU Sports] Persa listed as 'questionable' for BC game
In-Reply-To: <20110902234043.E15F264943@romaine.tssi.com>
References: <20110902234043.E15F264943@romaine.tssi.com>
Message-ID: <CAHChqvjJ7o=sA2tzhGP8bNTUqun1BV+Jf90tdymKJBHixb_2dA@mail.gmail.com>

Per chatter he is very unlikely to play tomorrow or during the month of
September. Hoping to have him ready for the BT opener.

On Fri, Sep 2, 2011 at 4:40 PM, Mike Nolan <nolan at tssi.com> wrote:

> According to ESPN, Dan Persa is listed as questionable for tomorrow's
> season opener at Boston College.
> --
> Mike Nolan
>
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From khaderach at sbcglobal.net  Fri Sep  2 20:31:23 2011
From: khaderach at sbcglobal.net (Bryan Bowser)
Date: Fri, 2 Sep 2011 18:31:23 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [NU Sports] Article on Christian Jones
Message-ID: <1315013483.40064.YahooMailRC@web80801.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

I came across this article today and had to share. It tells the story of of high 
school prospect Christian Jones tearing his ACL last year and all but two 
schools reneging on their scholarship offers, Northwestern and Rice. Some truly 
impiring Fitz quotes in the article. Looking forward to seeing Jones play 
tomorrow. 

Go Cats!
Bryan

http://articles.chicagotribune.com/2011-09-01/sports/ct-spt-0902-northwestern-football--20110902_1_christian-jones-tammye-promising-receiver


From MHRJGScott at aol.com  Fri Sep  2 20:31:47 2011
From: MHRJGScott at aol.com (MHRJGScott at aol.com)
Date: Fri, 2 Sep 2011 21:31:47 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: [NU Sports] Happy NU Year
Message-ID: <6347.6030d093.3b92dd83@aol.com>

very nice Jim but as a long suffering, yes we haven't won a bowl game,  
esp. a big time bowl game, fan I dread another 5th or 6th place (big ten cupa  
too tree) finish. It seems Persa is no go which is a real wild card at the 
most  important position, an Achilles heel indeed, GO  CAT!!!!!!

From nolan at tssi.com  Fri Sep  2 21:33:30 2011
From: nolan at tssi.com (Mike Nolan)
Date: Fri, 2 Sep 2011 21:33:30 -0500 (CDT)
Subject: [NU Sports] Article on Christian Jones
In-Reply-To: <1315013483.40064.YahooMailRC@web80801.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <20110903023330.2FBA861119@romaine.tssi.com>

> I came across this article today and had to share. It tells the story of of high 
> school prospect Christian Jones tearing his ACL last year and all but two 
> schools reneging on their scholarship offers, Northwestern and Rice. Some truly 
> impiring Fitz quotes in the article. Looking forward to seeing Jones play 
> tomorrow. 

A definite 'feel good' story.  

He should be a big target at 6'3" 225.  Working his way onto the two-deep 
his Freshman year is impressive.  Keep an eye out for #14.
--
Mike Nolan


From rstetson at capps-assoc.com  Sat Sep  3 09:59:09 2011
From: rstetson at capps-assoc.com (Roy S. Lamberton)
Date: Sat, 3 Sep 2011 10:59:09 -0400
Subject: [NU Sports] Time for the Purple Shirt
Message-ID: <000101cc6a4a$092c63d0$1b852b70$@com>

And take over the "cave" for a few hours as NU fans hunker down to see if its
"Persa-Strong" or "HurriKaine Kolter" leading the troops.

Not starting the first game could derail Persa's quest for the Heisman, - I'm not a
student of the award, but has anyone won it who didn't play the first part of a season?

I have the same concern that we had back when Kafka had to start as a Soph, and just
couldn't get it together. The difference here is a full year of prep with the first team
for the backup QBs....

We'll see

rsl

++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
Roy S. Lamberton - Senior Associate & Unix Guru.
Computer Applications & Support Associates
Coach Roy's Random Thoughts - http://coachroy.org
-------------------- Also ----------------------
"Commissioner" Delaware American Legion Baseball
Director Media Relations - Little League 
  Senior League Softball World Series
CTR2 USN (67-70) - CTRCS USNR (Ret) (64-67/70-95)
Northwestern University - Speech 1974 - 
Chi Phi: Pi 1974, KD 1968
Publisher Emeritus: Purple Reign (Fox Sports)
================================================
Opinions expressed above are mine alone and are not
those of any organizations of which I am a member.
------------------------------------------------
"A true Democracy is two wolves and a lamb sitting
down to vote on what is for dinner."

"You have a republic, madam, if you can keep it"

==========  Go Cats -? Beat 'em All  ===========





From rstetson at capps-assoc.com  Sat Sep  3 10:42:12 2011
From: rstetson at capps-assoc.com (Roy S. Lamberton)
Date: Sat, 3 Sep 2011 11:42:12 -0400
Subject: [NU Sports] WGN Reports it is Hurricaine.
Message-ID: <000501cc6a50$0c9597c0$25c0c740$@com>

rsl

++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
Roy S. Lamberton - Senior Associate & Unix Guru.
Computer Applications & Support Associates
Coach Roy's Random Thoughts - http://coachroy.org
-------------------- Also ----------------------
"Commissioner" Delaware American Legion Baseball
Director Media Relations - Little League 
  Senior League Softball World Series
CTR2 USN (67-70) - CTRCS USNR (Ret) (64-67/70-95)
Northwestern University - Speech 1974 - 
Chi Phi: Pi 1974, KD 1968
Publisher Emeritus: Purple Reign (Fox Sports)
================================================
Opinions expressed above are mine alone and are not
those of any organizations of which I am a member.
------------------------------------------------
"A true Democracy is two wolves and a lamb sitting
down to vote on what is for dinner."

"You have a republic, madam, if you can keep it"

==========  Go Cats -? Beat 'em All  ===========





From hakirsch at aol.com  Sat Sep  3 10:54:16 2011
From: hakirsch at aol.com (hakirsch at aol.com)
Date: Sat, 3 Sep 2011 15:54:16 +0000
Subject: [NU Sports] Time for the Purple Shirt
In-Reply-To: <000101cc6a4a$092c63d0$1b852b70$@com>
References: <000101cc6a4a$092c63d0$1b852b70$@com>
Message-ID: <1858365771-1315065258-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-175385755-@b4.c7.bise6.blackberry>

I'm in Chicago. Does anyone know what channel the game is on here ?
Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry

-----Original Message-----
From: "Roy S. Lamberton" <rstetson at capps-assoc.com>
Sender: nwu-sports-bounces at tssi.com
Date: Sat, 3 Sep 2011 10:59:09 
To: <nwu-sports at tssi.com>
Subject: [NU Sports] Time for the Purple Shirt

And take over the "cave" for a few hours as NU fans hunker down to see if its
"Persa-Strong" or "HurriKaine Kolter" leading the troops.

Not starting the first game could derail Persa's quest for the Heisman, - I'm not a
student of the award, but has anyone won it who didn't play the first part of a season?

I have the same concern that we had back when Kafka had to start as a Soph, and just
couldn't get it together. The difference here is a full year of prep with the first team
for the backup QBs....

We'll see

rsl

++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
Roy S. Lamberton - Senior Associate & Unix Guru.
Computer Applications & Support Associates
Coach Roy's Random Thoughts - http://coachroy.org
-------------------- Also ----------------------
"Commissioner" Delaware American Legion Baseball
Director Media Relations - Little League 
  Senior League Softball World Series
CTR2 USN (67-70) - CTRCS USNR (Ret) (64-67/70-95)
Northwestern University - Speech 1974 - 
Chi Phi: Pi 1974, KD 1968
Publisher Emeritus: Purple Reign (Fox Sports)
================================================
Opinions expressed above are mine alone and are not
those of any organizations of which I am a member.
------------------------------------------------
"A true Democracy is two wolves and a lamb sitting
down to vote on what is for dinner."

"You have a republic, madam, if you can keep it"

==========  Go Cats -? Beat 'em All  ===========




_______________________________________________
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From alan.abrahamson at gmail.com  Sat Sep  3 10:57:14 2011
From: alan.abrahamson at gmail.com (Alan Abrahamson)
Date: Sun, 4 Sep 2011 00:57:14 +0900
Subject: [NU Sports] Time for the Purple Shirt
In-Reply-To: <1858365771-1315065258-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-175385755-@b4.c7.bise6.blackberry>
References: <000101cc6a4a$092c63d0$1b852b70$@com>
 <1858365771-1315065258-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-175385755-@b4.c7.bise6.blackberry>
Message-ID: <-15406664685098887@unknownmsgid>

I'm in Daegu, South Korea, at the world track and field championships.

All updates gratefully appreciated, list friends!

Go Wildcats!



Sent from my iPhone

On Sep 4, 2011, at 12:54 AM, hakirsch at aol.com wrote:

> I'm in Chicago. Does anyone know what channel the game is on here ?
> Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: "Roy S. Lamberton" <rstetson at capps-assoc.com>
> Sender: nwu-sports-bounces at tssi.com
> Date: Sat, 3 Sep 2011 10:59:09
> To: <nwu-sports at tssi.com>
> Subject: [NU Sports] Time for the Purple Shirt
>
> And take over the "cave" for a few hours as NU fans hunker down to see if its
> "Persa-Strong" or "HurriKaine Kolter" leading the troops.
>
> Not starting the first game could derail Persa's quest for the Heisman, - I'm not a
> student of the award, but has anyone won it who didn't play the first part of a season?
>
> I have the same concern that we had back when Kafka had to start as a Soph, and just
> couldn't get it together. The difference here is a full year of prep with the first team
> for the backup QBs....
>
> We'll see
>
> rsl
>
> ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
> Roy S. Lamberton - Senior Associate & Unix Guru.
> Computer Applications & Support Associates
> Coach Roy's Random Thoughts - http://coachroy.org
> -------------------- Also ----------------------
> "Commissioner" Delaware American Legion Baseball
> Director Media Relations - Little League
>  Senior League Softball World Series
> CTR2 USN (67-70) - CTRCS USNR (Ret) (64-67/70-95)
> Northwestern University - Speech 1974 -
> Chi Phi: Pi 1974, KD 1968
> Publisher Emeritus: Purple Reign (Fox Sports)
> ================================================
> Opinions expressed above are mine alone and are not
> those of any organizations of which I am a member.
> ------------------------------------------------
> "A true Democracy is two wolves and a lamb sitting
> down to vote on what is for dinner."
>
> "You have a republic, madam, if you can keep it"
>
> ==========  Go Cats -  Beat 'em All  ===========
>
>
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> nwu-sports site list
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From hakirsch at aol.com  Sat Sep  3 11:09:12 2011
From: hakirsch at aol.com (hakirsch at aol.com)
Date: Sat, 3 Sep 2011 16:09:12 +0000
Subject: [NU Sports] WGN Reports it is Hurricaine.
In-Reply-To: <000501cc6a50$0c9597c0$25c0c740$@com>
References: <000501cc6a50$0c9597c0$25c0c740$@com>
Message-ID: <621458941-1315066153-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-1988242138-@b4.c7.bise6.blackberry>

Looks sunny to me even if BC leads
Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry

-----Original Message-----
From: "Roy S. Lamberton" <rstetson at capps-assoc.com>
Sender: nwu-sports-bounces at tssi.com
Date: Sat, 3 Sep 2011 11:42:12 
To: <nwu-sports at tssi.com>
Subject: [NU Sports] WGN Reports it is Hurricaine.

rsl

++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
Roy S. Lamberton - Senior Associate & Unix Guru.
Computer Applications & Support Associates
Coach Roy's Random Thoughts - http://coachroy.org
-------------------- Also ----------------------
"Commissioner" Delaware American Legion Baseball
Director Media Relations - Little League 
  Senior League Softball World Series
CTR2 USN (67-70) - CTRCS USNR (Ret) (64-67/70-95)
Northwestern University - Speech 1974 - 
Chi Phi: Pi 1974, KD 1968
Publisher Emeritus: Purple Reign (Fox Sports)
================================================
Opinions expressed above are mine alone and are not
those of any organizations of which I am a member.
------------------------------------------------
"A true Democracy is two wolves and a lamb sitting
down to vote on what is for dinner."

"You have a republic, madam, if you can keep it"

==========  Go Cats -? Beat 'em All  ===========




_______________________________________________
nwu-sports site list
nwu-sports at tssi.com
http://romaine.tssi.com/mailman/listinfo/nwu-sports

From nolan at tssi.com  Sat Sep  3 11:27:28 2011
From: nolan at tssi.com (Mike Nolan)
Date: Sat, 3 Sep 2011 11:27:28 -0500 (CDT)
Subject: [NU Sports] Time for the Purple Shirt
In-Reply-To: <-15406664685098887@unknownmsgid>
Message-ID: <20110903162728.37E0264928@romaine.tssi.com>

> I'm in Daegu, South Korea, at the world track and field championships.
> 
> All updates gratefully appreciated, list friends!

BC gets a big play to start the game but the Cats stiffen at the goal
line and BC has to settle for a field goal.

Colter completes a few passes and picks up a first down, has a shovel 
pass that could have been intercepted and then throws one over the head 
of a wide open receiver, so the Cats punt.

BC drive goes nowhere, they punt back to NU.


Colter is looking like he has settled down a bit in this drive, he had a 
nice run and is picking up some nice short passes.  He gets sacked and
the drive stalls at the BC 30, Cats pick up a field goal to tie the game.

The announcers sound like BC homers.
--
Mike Nolan


From sjtruog at yahoo.com  Sat Sep  3 11:31:27 2011
From: sjtruog at yahoo.com (SjT (Stephen J. Truog))
Date: Sat, 3 Sep 2011 09:31:27 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [NU Sports] Can it be???
Message-ID: <1315067487.49420.YahooMailNeo@web121718.mail.ne1.yahoo.com>

Two straight kickoffs that reach the end zone??? Nice!

Good to see Kain find a rhythm last drive and a nice solid field goal kick ... heck of a TD-saving chasedown tackle by Maven on that opening BC run, too.

Liking most of what I'm seeing so far except the secondary coverage -- can't give 'em a 20-yard cushion all the time and need to get some pressure!

GO CATS!!!
-SjT

PS - It looked like the BCQB was over the line on that last 3rd down pass pickup.
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STEPHEN J. TRUOG
sjtruog at yahoo.com
GO CATS!!! GEAUX SAINTS!!!
Super Bowl XLIV Champions!
________________________________

From nolan at tssi.com  Sat Sep  3 11:36:18 2011
From: nolan at tssi.com (Mike Nolan)
Date: Sat, 3 Sep 2011 11:36:18 -0500 (CDT)
Subject: [NU Sports] Continuing coverage
Message-ID: <20110903163618.3E67764949@romaine.tssi.com>

BC drive gets into the red zone then stalls out again, a combination of
good D and bad passing.  Field goal attempt is wide right.
--
Mike Nolan


From sjtruog at yahoo.com  Sat Sep  3 11:36:46 2011
From: sjtruog at yahoo.com (SjT (Stephen J. Truog))
Date: Sat, 3 Sep 2011 09:36:46 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [NU Sports] Whew ...
Message-ID: <1315067806.38786.YahooMailNeo@web121712.mail.ne1.yahoo.com>

Got lucky on that overthrow -- two nice stands down in the red zone by the D, but we gotta stop giving up those big plays to get in the red zone ...

Nice to see and hear all the PURPLE in the stands! ESPNu is really showing them standing and you can hear 'em on 3rd down.

... missed FG! Now LET'S GO O!!!

GO CATS!!!
-SjT
?
* * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *
STEPHEN J. TRUOG
sjtruog at yahoo.com
GO CATS!!! GEAUX SAINTS!!!
Super Bowl XLIV Champions!
________________________________

From nolan at tssi.com  Sat Sep  3 11:46:02 2011
From: nolan at tssi.com (Mike Nolan)
Date: Sat, 3 Sep 2011 11:46:02 -0500 (CDT)
Subject: [NU Sports] Wrapping up first quarter
In-Reply-To: <20110903163618.3E67764949@romaine.tssi.com>
Message-ID: <20110903164602.9FC1464953@romaine.tssi.com>

Another nice drive under way, Colter has 45 yards rushing already for
first downs, one of them he nearly broke it down the sideline.

He is finding open receivers, too.  Holding nullifies a TD run, though.

Quarter runs out with NU facing 4th and inches at the BC 10.  
--
Mike Nolan


From sjtruog at yahoo.com  Sat Sep  3 11:47:07 2011
From: sjtruog at yahoo.com (SjT (Stephen J. Truog))
Date: Sat, 3 Sep 2011 09:47:07 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [NU Sports] End of 1st ...
Message-ID: <1315068427.83296.YahooMailNeo@web121707.mail.ne1.yahoo.com>

Nice 3-3 tie right now ... two big plays for BC but two nice red-zone stands and a missed FG from the NU defense.

The Cats O is finding a rhythm (just STOP RUNNING STRETCH PLAYS TO THE FRIGGIN' SHORT SIDE OF THE FIELD FOR 2-YARD LOSSES!!!!!!) and had a nice pass play action going on that last drive. Too bad the TD was called back (good block until the facemask at the very end) ... now 4th and inches. I say go for it!!!

And special teams? A PLUS so far!!! Two kickoffs into the end zone and a 43-yard field goal that was right down main street and plenty long.

Good start with the Persa disappointment ... great to see Dan coaching up Kain on the sideline and even better to see all the LOUD AND PROUD PURPLE in the stands. Now let's build off that drive!

GO CATS!!!
-SjT
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* * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *
STEPHEN J. TRUOG
sjtruog at yahoo.com
GO CATS!!! GEAUX SAINTS!!!
Super Bowl XLIV Champions!
________________________________

From sjtruog at yahoo.com  Sat Sep  3 11:49:11 2011
From: sjtruog at yahoo.com (SjT (Stephen J. Truog))
Date: Sat, 3 Sep 2011 09:49:11 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [NU Sports] Like the call ...
Message-ID: <1315068551.80238.YahooMailNeo@web121720.mail.ne1.yahoo.com>

... but not the snap.

So each team has two missed chances and two field goals. Still 3-3.

We're controlling the clock and tempo , but they're getting more big plays.



Now come on defense! Time to make a play and get a turnover!!!

GO CATS!!!
-SjT
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* * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *
STEPHEN J. TRUOG
sjtruog at yahoo.com
GO CATS!!! GEAUX SAINTS!!!
Super Bowl XLIV Champions!
________________________________

From sjtruog at yahoo.com  Sat Sep  3 11:56:13 2011
From: sjtruog at yahoo.com (SjT (Stephen J. Truog))
Date: Sat, 3 Sep 2011 09:56:13 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [NU Sports] When even the announcers say ...
Message-ID: <1315068973.41961.YahooMailNeo@web121703.mail.ne1.yahoo.com>

that the "defender is playing WAAAAAAAAY off" on the coverage -- then you know it's time to GET FRIGGIN' CLOSER!!!

Seriously - we need the defense to get more aggressive. We had pressure once, but otherwise it's been all day to throw AND soft soft soft coverage. And it would be nice to stay home on the corner for run plays too.

C'mon D! Nice interception, but that was a bad throw more than aggressiveness.

GO CATS!!!
-SjT
?
* * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *
STEPHEN J. TRUOG
sjtruog at yahoo.com
GO CATS!!! GEAUX SAINTS!!!
Super Bowl XLIV Champions!
________________________________

From nolan at tssi.com  Sat Sep  3 11:56:25 2011
From: nolan at tssi.com (Mike Nolan)
Date: Sat, 3 Sep 2011 11:56:25 -0500 (CDT)
Subject: [NU Sports] 2nd quarter coverage
Message-ID: <20110903165626.0255864959@romaine.tssi.com>

Cats go for it on 4th and inches, Colter has problems with the snap
and comes up short.

If you have a chance to watch the TCU-Baylor game, it reminded me of
a Northwestern game, there were 6 lead changes in the first 20 minutes and
two lead changes in the last 6 minutes!  Baylor's QB may have put himself
into the Heisman race, too bad their defense probably won't allow him to 
stay there.

BC's turn to drive down the field, seeing too many missed tackles.  

False start at midfield, but they pick up 11 yards on a pass, but Mavin
gets an INT on a pass that wasn't thrown well and the Cats take over
at the 15.
--
Mike Nolan


From sjtruog at yahoo.com  Sat Sep  3 11:56:32 2011
From: sjtruog at yahoo.com (SjT (Stephen J. Truog))
Date: Sat, 3 Sep 2011 09:56:32 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [NU Sports] When even the announcers say ...
Message-ID: <1315068992.22076.YahooMailNeo@web121710.mail.ne1.yahoo.com>

that the "defender is playing WAAAAAAAAY off" on the coverage -- then you know it's time to GET FRIGGIN' CLOSER!!!

Seriously - we need the defense to get more aggressive. We had pressure once, but otherwise it's been all day to throw AND soft soft soft coverage. And it would be nice to stay home on the corner for run plays too.

C'mon D! Nice interception, but that was a bad throw more than aggressiveness.

GO CATS!
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* * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *
STEPHEN J. TRUOG
sjtruog at yahoo.com
GO CATS!!! GEAUX SAINTS!!!
Super Bowl XLIV Champions!
________________________________

From nolan at tssi.com  Sat Sep  3 11:58:18 2011
From: nolan at tssi.com (Mike Nolan)
Date: Sat, 3 Sep 2011 11:58:18 -0500 (CDT)
Subject: [NU Sports] Ow!
Message-ID: <20110903165818.3288A64946@romaine.tssi.com>

Colter throws a pick, he completely missed the receiver, it nearly goes for 6.
--
Mike Nolan


From sjtruog at yahoo.com  Sat Sep  3 12:00:07 2011
From: sjtruog at yahoo.com (SjT (Stephen J. Truog))
Date: Sat, 3 Sep 2011 10:00:07 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [NU Sports] Ugh ...
Message-ID: <1315069207.42049.YahooMailNeo@web121711.mail.ne1.yahoo.com>

Solid D up the middle, but once again we can't seal the edges and BC goes to the corner for the TD after the pickoff.

Down 3-10 and giving up big plays far too often on both sides of the ball without being aggressive on our own with offensive or defensive play calling. C'mon Cats!

On the ticker watch ...

Did Utah State just go up 21-7 on Auburn????Looks like someone blew their six-figure quarterback budget last year and has nothing left over ... :)
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* * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *
STEPHEN J. TRUOG
sjtruog at yahoo.com
GO CATS!!! GEAUX SAINTS!!!
Super Bowl XLIV Champions!
________________________________

From nolan at tssi.com  Sat Sep  3 12:00:25 2011
From: nolan at tssi.com (Mike Nolan)
Date: Sat, 3 Sep 2011 12:00:25 -0500 (CDT)
Subject: [NU Sports] goal line stand
Message-ID: <20110903170025.263B064928@romaine.tssi.com>

Cats stiffen inside the 2 again, false start pushes the ball back to the 6,
but the BC back gets free on the left side and scores.  10-3.
--
Mike Nolan


From sjtruog at yahoo.com  Sat Sep  3 12:06:24 2011
From: sjtruog at yahoo.com (SjT (Stephen J. Truog))
Date: Sat, 3 Sep 2011 10:06:24 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [NU Sports] This game has turned on that INT ...
Message-ID: <1315069584.44271.YahooMailNeo@web121715.mail.ne1.yahoo.com>

The O has gone into a shell and 3rd and long kills us.

The D needs to get more aggressive and make a play or BC will run to the edge and pass against soft coverage all the way down the field.

C'MON CATS!!!
-SjT
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* * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *
STEPHEN J. TRUOG
sjtruog at yahoo.com
GO CATS!!! GEAUX SAINTS!!!
Super Bowl XLIV Champions!
________________________________

From nolan at tssi.com  Sat Sep  3 12:08:01 2011
From: nolan at tssi.com (Mike Nolan)
Date: Sat, 3 Sep 2011 12:08:01 -0500 (CDT)
Subject: [NU Sports] Ugh ...
In-Reply-To: <1315069207.42049.YahooMailNeo@web121711.mail.ne1.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <20110903170801.4F090648F3@romaine.tssi.com>

> Did Utah State just go up 21-7 on Auburn???=A0Looks like someone blew their=
>  six-figure quarterback budget last year and has nothing left over ... :)

It's an SEC tradition to have the best players money can buy!

Auburn also got lucky a few times last year, which is often the
case when a team wins the NC.

Does BC have the wind this quarter?  The kick sails through the end zone.

They've got Persa in street clothes on the sidelines wearing a headset, 
hopefully he was working on settling Kain down after that bad pass.  
A pass is called incomplete, wouldn't have gained much anyway.  Colter 
gets sacked and the Cats go 3 and out.  

Good punt to the 20, BC takes over at their own 25.
--
Mike Nolan



From nolan at tssi.com  Sat Sep  3 12:13:49 2011
From: nolan at tssi.com (Mike Nolan)
Date: Sat, 3 Sep 2011 12:13:49 -0500 (CDT)
Subject: [NU Sports] next drive
Message-ID: <20110903171349.BE81E64928@romaine.tssi.com>

Short gain up the middle, then a 14 yard pickup on a pass into loose
coverage.  Cats get a sack on good coverage next play, but I was worried
the QB was going to scramble out of it.

Almost another sack, QB picks up 2.  Completed pass, but well short,
4th and 6.  Punt sails into the end zone for a touchback.
--
Mike



From sjtruog at yahoo.com  Sat Sep  3 12:18:25 2011
From: sjtruog at yahoo.com (SjT (Stephen J. Truog))
Date: Sat, 3 Sep 2011 10:18:25 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [NU Sports] Looks like McCall got the memo ...
Message-ID: <1315070305.13773.YahooMailNeo@web121720.mail.ne1.yahoo.com>

AGGRESSIVE tempo on offense! Passes DOWN the field! Quick snaps for runs UP THE GUT (no dancing around stretching to the short sideline - grrrr)!

Where were these play calls earlier?

Nevermind ... just KEEP IT UP!!!

GO CATS!!!
-SjT
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STEPHEN J. TRUOG
sjtruog at yahoo.com
GO CATS!!! GEAUX SAINTS!!!
Super Bowl XLIV Champions!
________________________________

From rstetson at capps-assoc.com  Sat Sep  3 12:19:02 2011
From: rstetson at capps-assoc.com (Roy S. Lamberton)
Date: Sat, 3 Sep 2011 13:19:02 -0400
Subject: [NU Sports] Ugh ...
In-Reply-To: <20110903170801.4F090648F3@romaine.tssi.com>
References: <1315069207.42049.YahooMailNeo@web121711.mail.ne1.yahoo.com>
 <20110903170801.4F090648F3@romaine.tssi.com>
Message-ID: <001001cc6a5d$93bb4c10$bb31e430$@com>

Persa has been talking with Colter when they've shown him on the sidelines.

rsl

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Director Media Relations - Little League 
  Senior League Softball World Series
CTR2 USN (67-70) - CTRCS USNR (Ret) (64-67/70-95)
Northwestern University - Speech 1974 - 
Chi Phi: Pi 1974, KD 1968
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==========  Go Cats -? Beat 'em All  ===========



-----Original Message-----
From: nwu-sports-bounces at tssi.com [mailto:nwu-sports-bounces at tssi.com] On Behalf Of Mike
Nolan
Sent: Saturday, September 03, 2011 1:08 PM
To: sjtruog at yahoo.com
Cc: NUSPORTS
Subject: Re: [NU Sports] Ugh ...

> Did Utah State just go up 21-7 on Auburn???=A0Looks like someone blew their=
>  six-figure quarterback budget last year and has nothing left over ... :)

It's an SEC tradition to have the best players money can buy!

Auburn also got lucky a few times last year, which is often the
case when a team wins the NC.

Does BC have the wind this quarter?  The kick sails through the end zone.

They've got Persa in street clothes on the sidelines wearing a headset, 
hopefully he was working on settling Kain down after that bad pass.  
A pass is called incomplete, wouldn't have gained much anyway.  Colter 
gets sacked and the Cats go 3 and out.  

Good punt to the 20, BC takes over at their own 25.
--
Mike Nolan


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From sjtruog at yahoo.com  Sat Sep  3 12:26:26 2011
From: sjtruog at yahoo.com (SjT (Stephen J. Truog))
Date: Sat, 3 Sep 2011 10:26:26 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [NU Sports] TOUCHDOWN WILDCATS!!!
Message-ID: <1315070786.84321.YahooMailNeo@web121712.mail.ne1.yahoo.com>

See what happens when you GET AGGRESSIVE???

Good drive, Cats!
Good play calling, McCall!
Defense ... pick up your aggressiveness!

Big score before the half - we needed that!

GO CATS!!!
SjT
?
* * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *
STEPHEN J. TRUOG
sjtruog at yahoo.com
GO CATS!!! GEAUX SAINTS!!!
Super Bowl XLIV Champions!
________________________________

From rstetson at capps-assoc.com  Sat Sep  3 12:29:20 2011
From: rstetson at capps-assoc.com (Roy S. Lamberton)
Date: Sat, 3 Sep 2011 13:29:20 -0400
Subject: [NU Sports] Tied Up
Message-ID: <001101cc6a5f$0407f710$0c17e530$@com>

Really liked the NU team that finished the half. See if we can take the ball down field in
the 2nd.

Go Cats.

rsl

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Computer Applications & Support Associates
Coach Roy's Random Thoughts - http://coachroy.org
-------------------- Also ----------------------
"Commissioner" Delaware American Legion Baseball
Director Media Relations - Little League 
  Senior League Softball World Series
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Northwestern University - Speech 1974 - 
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"A true Democracy is two wolves and a lamb sitting
down to vote on what is for dinner."

"You have a republic, madam, if you can keep it"

==========  Go Cats -? Beat 'em All  ===========





From nolan at tssi.com  Sat Sep  3 12:29:40 2011
From: nolan at tssi.com (Mike Nolan)
Date: Sat, 3 Sep 2011 12:29:40 -0500 (CDT)
Subject: [NU Sports] Wrapping up the half
Message-ID: <20110903172940.95C016495E@romaine.tssi.com>

Apparently what wind there is is blowing the Cats way this quarter,
so both teams appear to have kickers with strong legs.  That's 
encouraging.  

Colter pick up 6 on the option.

Wide open Fields pick up the first and more.

High pass caught by Christian Jones, the freshman, for a first.  Good
thing he's 6'3".

Ebert gets 6, almost breaks free.

Smith gets the first up the middle.  Ball at the BC 29.

Brown picks up a first on a nice pass.  Schmidt to the 7.
Trumpy picks up the first and goal.  Under a minute in the half,
BC calls time out, 0:53 left.

False start on the Cats pushes it back to the 9.

Colter drops back, then goes right, stopped at the 3.  Time out NU, 
40 seconds left.

Colter just barely gets the play off, goes right again, evades a tackler 
and scores!  10-10.  38 seconds left.

Colter might have gotten dinged on that run, though.

Kick to the 13, out to the 32, with :32 on the clock.  BC takes a knee
to end the half.
--
Mike Nolan
























From rstetson at capps-assoc.com  Sat Sep  3 12:32:28 2011
From: rstetson at capps-assoc.com (Roy S. Lamberton)
Date: Sat, 3 Sep 2011 13:32:28 -0400
Subject: [NU Sports] Time of possession.
Message-ID: <001201cc6a5f$7447ed50$5cd7c7f0$@com>

Them 16+ mins
Us 13+ mins

In the 2nd quarter it was 10+ vs 5+ for us.

Stupid Holding penalty or we'd be up 14-10

rsl

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Computer Applications & Support Associates
Coach Roy's Random Thoughts - http://coachroy.org
-------------------- Also ----------------------
"Commissioner" Delaware American Legion Baseball
Director Media Relations - Little League 
  Senior League Softball World Series
CTR2 USN (67-70) - CTRCS USNR (Ret) (64-67/70-95)
Northwestern University - Speech 1974 - 
Chi Phi: Pi 1974, KD 1968
Publisher Emeritus: Purple Reign (Fox Sports)
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those of any organizations of which I am a member.
------------------------------------------------
"A true Democracy is two wolves and a lamb sitting
down to vote on what is for dinner."

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==========  Go Cats -? Beat 'em All  ===========





From tmcadams at yahoo.com  Sat Sep  3 12:35:27 2011
From: tmcadams at yahoo.com (Trey McAdams)
Date: Sat, 3 Sep 2011 12:35:27 -0500
Subject: [NU Sports] TOUCHDOWN WILDCATS!!!
In-Reply-To: <1315070786.84321.YahooMailNeo@web121712.mail.ne1.yahoo.com>
References: <1315070786.84321.YahooMailNeo@web121712.mail.ne1.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <D35E2280-37F6-4704-84FC-44671647546F@yahoo.com>

Well 10-10 at half. No persa and we essentially gave them 7. Gotta be pleased with that. Kain looking OK at the end. 

Go cats!!! From sister Bay Wisconsin. 

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On Sep 3, 2011, at 12:26 PM, "SjT \(Stephen J. Truog\)" <sjtruog at yahoo.com> wrote:

> See what happens when you GET AGGRESSIVE???
> 
> Good drive, Cats!
> Good play calling, McCall!
> Defense ... pick up your aggressiveness!
> 
> Big score before the half - we needed that!
> 
> GO CATS!!!
> SjT
>  
> * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *
> STEPHEN J. TRUOG
> sjtruog at yahoo.com
> GO CATS!!! GEAUX SAINTS!!!
> Super Bowl XLIV Champions!
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From nolan at tssi.com  Sat Sep  3 12:48:12 2011
From: nolan at tssi.com (Mike Nolan)
Date: Sat, 3 Sep 2011 12:48:12 -0500 (CDT)
Subject: [NU Sports] Oklahoma rumors and around the conference
Message-ID: <20110903174812.DC56B647F3@romaine.tssi.com>

Rumors are flying about Oklahoma this weekend.

One of them is that OU may be working on a package deal with A&M to go to
the SEC, others say OU and OSU will go to the Pac-whatever.

OU prez says they'll make their decision in the next 3 weeks, possibly next
3 days, so that gives Dan Bebee little time to try to hold the leaky 
ship together.  

Purdue is trailing Middle Tennessee 14-10, looks like injury problems
at QB will hurt them again this year.  

Wisconsin offense looked pretty good Thursday, the defense needs to
tighten up.  MSU offense took a while to get going last night, defense 
looked sluggish there, too.  

JoePa is coaching from the pressbox, doesn't seem to be hurting the Nits.
Ohio State and Iowa both rolling along, too.

It was raining in Lincoln this morning, but should clear up by
kickoff.  

Time for an Italian Beef sandwich!
--
Mike Nolan


From sjtruog at yahoo.com  Sat Sep  3 12:57:12 2011
From: sjtruog at yahoo.com (SjT (Stephen J. Truog))
Date: Sat, 3 Sep 2011 10:57:12 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [NU Sports] PURRRRR-fect start to the second half!
Message-ID: <1315072632.83632.YahooMailNeo@web121719.mail.ne1.yahoo.com>

Another AGGRESSIVE drive! Nice play calling mix!

TD AND LEAD WILDCATS!!! 17-10!

Now let's hope the D gets the aggressive memo as well ... let BC be the ones sitting back on their heels.

GO CATS!!!
-SjT
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* * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *
STEPHEN J. TRUOG
sjtruog at yahoo.com
GO CATS!!! GEAUX SAINTS!!!
Super Bowl XLIV Champions!
________________________________

From nolan at tssi.com  Sat Sep  3 12:59:25 2011
From: nolan at tssi.com (Mike Nolan)
Date: Sat, 3 Sep 2011 12:59:25 -0500 (CDT)
Subject: [NU Sports] TD Cats!
Message-ID: <20110903175925.D455164928@romaine.tssi.com>

Great drive to start the 2nd half, nice mixture of plays, Trumpy gets
the TD.
--
Mike Nolan


From rstetson at capps-assoc.com  Sat Sep  3 13:02:35 2011
From: rstetson at capps-assoc.com (Roy S. Lamberton)
Date: Sat, 3 Sep 2011 14:02:35 -0400
Subject: [NU Sports] Another big catch
Message-ID: <001301cc6a63$a958fdf0$fc0af9d0$@com>

By BC with an NU 3 man rush.

rsl

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Computer Applications & Support Associates
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-------------------- Also ----------------------
"Commissioner" Delaware American Legion Baseball
Director Media Relations - Little League 
  Senior League Softball World Series
CTR2 USN (67-70) - CTRCS USNR (Ret) (64-67/70-95)
Northwestern University - Speech 1974 - 
Chi Phi: Pi 1974, KD 1968
Publisher Emeritus: Purple Reign (Fox Sports)
================================================
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those of any organizations of which I am a member.
------------------------------------------------
"A true Democracy is two wolves and a lamb sitting
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"You have a republic, madam, if you can keep it"

==========  Go Cats -? Beat 'em All  ===========





From sjtruog at yahoo.com  Sat Sep  3 13:04:29 2011
From: sjtruog at yahoo.com (SjT (Stephen J. Truog))
Date: Sat, 3 Sep 2011 11:04:29 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [NU Sports] DEEEE-fense!!!
Message-ID: <1315073069.64562.YahooMailNeo@web121710.mail.ne1.yahoo.com>

The D also got the memo!

MUCH more aggressive! SHUTTING DOWN the middle! Even tackling the runs on the edges! And a SACK!!!

I have no problem getting beat every so often if we're being aggressive, so the one first down doesn't worry me.

Keep up the pressure, Cats!

Also, it looks like there are a LOT of people in purple there today. ESPNu is showing them standing on every third down and you hear a lot of NU cheers.

GO CATS!!! Drive it down and take control, O!
-SjT
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* * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *
STEPHEN J. TRUOG
sjtruog at yahoo.com
GO CATS!!! GEAUX SAINTS!!!
Super Bowl XLIV Champions!
________________________________

From nolan at tssi.com  Sat Sep  3 13:05:45 2011
From: nolan at tssi.com (Mike Nolan)
Date: Sat, 3 Sep 2011 13:05:45 -0500 (CDT)
Subject: [NU Sports] Continuing the 3rd
Message-ID: <20110903180545.DF6A9612C4@romaine.tssi.com>

Kick to the 5, gets to the 24 then stuffed.  

BC tries it up the middle twice, no soap!

Then they find an open receiver and pick up 27.

Run to the left is stopped, Cats D working well on the run now,
but they need to plug the holes in the secondary.

QB is sacked, no open receiver!

3rd and 20.  Almost picked off down the middle.

Punt coming.  Punt bounces back upfield to the 34, just 26 yards.

Cats O coming back on the field.
--
Mike Nolan








From tmcadams at yahoo.com  Sat Sep  3 13:08:55 2011
From: tmcadams at yahoo.com (Trey McAdams)
Date: Sat, 3 Sep 2011 13:08:55 -0500
Subject: [NU Sports] TD Cats!
In-Reply-To: <20110903175925.D455164928@romaine.tssi.com>
References: <20110903175925.D455164928@romaine.tssi.com>
Message-ID: <5DFA6E8B-099A-4D9D-9362-84823138B1FE@yahoo.com>

There is an NU HurriKain brewing.  It appears to be category Persa Strong!!!

Trey McAdams
Deloitte Consulting LLP
Tel/Direct: +1 312 486 1980 | Fax: +1 312 247 1980 | Mobile: +1 312 307 0051
tmcadams at deloitte.com | www.deloitte.com


On Sep 3, 2011, at 12:59 PM, nolan at tssi.com (Mike Nolan) wrote:

> Great drive to start the 2nd half, nice mixture of plays, Trumpy gets
> the TD.
> --
> Mike Nolan
> 
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From nolan at tssi.com  Sat Sep  3 13:13:01 2011
From: nolan at tssi.com (Mike Nolan)
Date: Sat, 3 Sep 2011 13:13:01 -0500 (CDT)
Subject: [NU Sports] 3rd Q continues
Message-ID: <20110903181301.D99DA64951@romaine.tssi.com>

Fair amount of purple in the stands, way to go Cats fans!

Nice pass to Ebert wide left, 7 yards.

Colter keeps, gets 2, thought he got tackled by the helmet, but no flag.

Looked like BC was off sides, but they called a false start on NU.  Grrr.

Makes it 3rd and 6.  Colter to Schmidt to midfield for a first.

Fields drops one, Colter had hit 8 in a row.  Right out of the NU playbook!

Dunsmore starts another string of completions, 3rd and 7.

Colter takes off, gets just 4.  Punt team on the field.

Punt just out of NU players' reach and finds the end zone.  BC will 
take over at the 20.
--
Mike Nolan












From sjtruog at yahoo.com  Sat Sep  3 13:18:44 2011
From: sjtruog at yahoo.com (SjT (Stephen J. Truog))
Date: Sat, 3 Sep 2011 11:18:44 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [NU Sports] Love the pressure ...
Message-ID: <1315073924.66114.YahooMailNeo@web121719.mail.ne1.yahoo.com>

But someone still has to cover Moma.

Bogus lack of a grounding call on that sack by NU. He wasn't out of the box and no WR was near. Lots of holding going on with the next play as well -- NU's pressure is starting to wear on them.

GO CATS!!!
-SjT
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* * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *
STEPHEN J. TRUOG
sjtruog at yahoo.com
GO CATS!!! GEAUX SAINTS!!!
Super Bowl XLIV Champions!
________________________________

From nolan at tssi.com  Sat Sep  3 13:19:33 2011
From: nolan at tssi.com (Mike Nolan)
Date: Sat, 3 Sep 2011 13:19:33 -0500 (CDT)
Subject: [NU Sports] BC Drive
Message-ID: <20110903181933.5E76664928@romaine.tssi.com>

Another stop would be great here.

Pass too wide, but receiver was open.

Williams goes right, gets 3.

Another big pass to an open receiver at midfield.

QB throws it away as he's being pulled down, no flag.

Pitch to Williams, no gain.

QB is flushed, nobody near the pass.  Punt coming.

The punt is downed at the 1.  Long field coming for the Cats.
--
Mike Nolan







From nolan at tssi.com  Sat Sep  3 13:22:11 2011
From: nolan at tssi.com (Mike Nolan)
Date: Sat, 3 Sep 2011 13:22:11 -0500 (CDT)
Subject: [NU Sports] NU drive
Message-ID: <20110903182211.3016D612C4@romaine.tssi.com>

Colter sneaks it to almost the 5, some breathing room.

Another play up the middle, not much there.

Colter is sacked at the 2, just barely got out of the end zone.

Fair catch at the NU 40.

C'mon D.
--
Mike Nolan


From nolan at tssi.com  Sat Sep  3 13:26:12 2011
From: nolan at tssi.com (Mike Nolan)
Date: Sat, 3 Sep 2011 13:26:12 -0500 (CDT)
Subject: [NU Sports] BC drive
Message-ID: <20110903182613.1BC8C64928@romaine.tssi.com>

Williams gets 7 up the middle, almost got free.

Williams again, this time he loses 3.

NU calls time out, defense looked confused, probably a good 
use of the time out.

Pass complete for a first at the 29.

Williams, maybe a yard, nice solid tackle to end the 3rd quarter.
--
Mike Nolan






From nolan at tssi.com  Sat Sep  3 13:31:49 2011
From: nolan at tssi.com (Mike Nolan)
Date: Sat, 3 Sep 2011 13:31:49 -0500 (CDT)
Subject: [NU Sports] 4th quarter
Message-ID: <20110903183149.2C58F64954@romaine.tssi.com>

This is shaping up to be another Cardiac Cats 4th quarter.

Auburn just took the lead against Utah State.

Pass complete but short of the first, 4th and 4.

Field goal attempt is not even close, wide left.
--
Mike Nolan


From nolan at tssi.com  Sat Sep  3 13:41:44 2011
From: nolan at tssi.com (Mike Nolan)
Date: Sat, 3 Sep 2011 13:41:44 -0500 (CDT)
Subject: [NU Sports] Cats drive
Message-ID: <20110903184144.F055964951@romaine.tssi.com>

Colter buried for a 1 yard loss.

Colter can't find an open receiver, takes off, gains 2, 3rd and long.

Colter finds Ebert up the middle for 23!  Nice pass over the defender's
arms.

Trumpy picks up the first on two rushes.  Ball at BC 39.

Smith loses 3 on a reception in the backfield.

Reverse to Ebert, almost nailed in the backfield but picks up a few.

3rd and 9.  Colter is 17/24 at this point.

Christian Jones gets the pass at the 11.  He's limping, but can't get
off before the next play.

Smith to the 6. Jones finally gets off the field.

Colter takes off, gets to the 2, 3rd and less than 1.

Fitz runs on the field calling time out.  He can still move!

NU has 1 time out left, let's hope that's not important.

Pitch to Smith, he goes in untouched!  24-10 NU, 9:24 left.






From sjtruog at yahoo.com  Sat Sep  3 13:42:10 2011
From: sjtruog at yahoo.com (SjT (Stephen J. Truog))
Date: Sat, 3 Sep 2011 11:42:10 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [NU Sports] TD CATS!!!
Message-ID: <1315075330.76449.YahooMailNeo@web121717.mail.ne1.yahoo.com>

Love the way Kane runs the option (he makes the defender committ!) - great play for the TD!

Nice drive, great play calling and excellent poise by Colter staying in the pocket on those two BIG key passes.

GO CATS!!!
-SjT
?
* * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *
STEPHEN J. TRUOG
sjtruog at yahoo.com
GO CATS!!! GEAUX SAINTS!!!
Super Bowl XLIV Champions!
________________________________

From sjtruog at yahoo.com  Sat Sep  3 13:45:04 2011
From: sjtruog at yahoo.com (SjT (Stephen J. Truog))
Date: Sat, 3 Sep 2011 11:45:04 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [NU Sports] Go Fitz!
Message-ID: <1315075504.12238.YahooMailNeo@web121714.mail.ne1.yahoo.com>

Forgot to mention Fitz' nifty 40-yard dash to call that timeout on the last drive.

NU needs to have a "Fitz cam" on its Web site that just follows coach around during the game. He's ?a joy to watch with his emotion, and one heck of a coach. Glad he's on our sidelines!

GO CATS!!!
-SjT
?
* * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *
STEPHEN J. TRUOG
sjtruog at yahoo.com
GO CATS!!! GEAUX SAINTS!!!
Super Bowl XLIV Champions!
________________________________

From alan.abrahamson at gmail.com  Sat Sep  3 13:48:04 2011
From: alan.abrahamson at gmail.com (Alan Abrahamson)
Date: Sat, 3 Sep 2011 11:48:04 -0700
Subject: [NU Sports] This just Tweeted from WNUR Sports
Message-ID: <CAN7seniMm_cnR1oJHwaUNfBio+01Q+zGvY0Vc+Vwwi6gMraopA@mail.gmail.com>

Colter 18-25 for 199 yards. 72% completion percentage is Dan Persa-like...

From nolan at tssi.com  Sat Sep  3 13:55:57 2011
From: nolan at tssi.com (Mike Nolan)
Date: Sat, 3 Sep 2011 13:55:57 -0500 (CDT)
Subject: [NU Sports] 4th quarter continues
Message-ID: <20110903185557.ACF7164966@romaine.tssi.com>

Purdue is still trailing Middle Tennessee 14-10 at the end of 3.

Maybe the Cats have figured out how to win a game without giving their
fans heart failure?  

Ball blows off the tee.  Kick is downed in the end zone, nice to see that!

The NFL moved the kickoff up 5 this year, I wonder if the NCAA will
follow suit next year?  They moved it back 5 to match the NFL, after all.

BC picks up 11, but then Rettig is sacked to lose 8.

Pass is well over receiver's head on left sideline.

Rettig leaves the pocket then finds a receiver at midfield.

Williams would have needed to be 9 feet tall to catch the next pass.

Rettig going deep, receiver can't hold on to the ball inside the 15.

Pass complete, just enough for the first.

Looked like good coverage, until receiver pulls up short and catches 
the ball at the 2.

Williams goes through the right side, doesn't quite get in.  Time out BC.
6:03 on the clock.

Utah State retakes the lead against Auburn.

This time Williams gets in.

24-17.  6 minutes left.
--
Mike Nolan


















From nolan at tssi.com  Sat Sep  3 14:09:08 2011
From: nolan at tssi.com (Mike Nolan)
Date: Sat, 3 Sep 2011 14:09:08 -0500 (CDT)
Subject: [NU Sports] NU drive
Message-ID: <20110903190908.8ECBE64946@romaine.tssi.com>

Well, that raised my blood pressure!

What we need is a score, the slower the better!

Kick taken at the 2 out to the 26, BC player down.

Trumpy up the middle, gets about 2.

Go clock go.

Colter loses the handle on the ball and falls on it.  Loss of 6.

Colter can't find a receiver, takes off, doesn't get much.

Punter standing on his 10.  Flag, punt rolls out at the 18, but it doesn't
count, illegal formation NU.

Punt taken at the 34, flag, this time on BC.  Puts them on their 24.

3:44 left.  Pass for first down at the 42.  

Purdue has tied up the game.  

Pass deep, receiver covered, pass a bit overthrown, some contact, no flag.

Pass incomplete to diving receiver.

3:04 left.  Pass deep, no receiver in that zip code.

BC going for it on 4th and 10.  Rettig is nearly sacked, somehow gets
the pass off, bobbled by a receiver, then up for grabs and incomplete.

NU ball!
--
Mike Nolan





From nolan at tssi.com  Sat Sep  3 14:10:13 2011
From: nolan at tssi.com (Mike Nolan)
Date: Sat, 3 Sep 2011 14:10:13 -0500 (CDT)
Subject: [NU Sports] 4th quarter continues
Message-ID: <20110903191013.1F32E612C4@romaine.tssi.com>

Trumpy up the middle, gets 3, clock moving.


From sjtruog at yahoo.com  Sat Sep  3 14:17:03 2011
From: sjtruog at yahoo.com (SjT (Stephen J. Truog))
Date: Sat, 3 Sep 2011 12:17:03 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [NU Sports] Why do we always run to the short side of the field???
Message-ID: <1315077423.55069.YahooMailNeo@web121704.mail.ne1.yahoo.com>

UGH! C'MON DEFENSE!!!

SOMEONE COVER MOMA!!!

GO CATS!!!
-SjT
?
* * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *
STEPHEN J. TRUOG
sjtruog at yahoo.com
GO CATS!!! GEAUX SAINTS!!!
Super Bowl XLIV Champions!
________________________________

From sjtruog at yahoo.com  Sat Sep  3 14:17:41 2011
From: sjtruog at yahoo.com (SjT (Stephen J. Truog))
Date: Sat, 3 Sep 2011 12:17:41 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [NU Sports] Hey look, the refs FINALLY called grounding!!!
Message-ID: <1315077461.57355.YahooMailNeo@web121702.mail.ne1.yahoo.com>

Better late than never!


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STEPHEN J. TRUOG
sjtruog at yahoo.com
GO CATS!!! GEAUX SAINTS!!!
Super Bowl XLIV Champions!
________________________________

From rstetson at capps-assoc.com  Sat Sep  3 14:25:50 2011
From: rstetson at capps-assoc.com (Roy S. Lamberton)
Date: Sat, 3 Sep 2011 15:25:50 -0400
Subject: [NU Sports] Cardiac Cats - Tropical Storm Colter
Message-ID: <001401cc6a6f$4a920760$dfb61620$@com>

Finally a good call from the zebras, and give the Cats the win.

Whew!

rsl

++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
Roy S. Lamberton - Senior Associate & Unix Guru.
Computer Applications & Support Associates
Coach Roy's Random Thoughts - http://coachroy.org
-------------------- Also ----------------------
"Commissioner" Delaware American Legion Baseball
Director Media Relations - Little League 
  Senior League Softball World Series
CTR2 USN (67-70) - CTRCS USNR (Ret) (64-67/70-95)
Northwestern University - Speech 1974 - 
Chi Phi: Pi 1974, KD 1968
Publisher Emeritus: Purple Reign (Fox Sports)
================================================
Opinions expressed above are mine alone and are not
those of any organizations of which I am a member.
------------------------------------------------
"A true Democracy is two wolves and a lamb sitting
down to vote on what is for dinner."

"You have a republic, madam, if you can keep it"

==========  Go Cats -? Beat 'em All  ===========





From nolan at tssi.com  Sat Sep  3 14:26:07 2011
From: nolan at tssi.com (Mike Nolan)
Date: Sat, 3 Sep 2011 14:26:07 -0500 (CDT)
Subject: [NU Sports] Final 2 minutes, seemed longer!
Message-ID: <20110903192607.A89ED64953@romaine.tssi.com>

2nd and 7.  Trumpy wisely stays in bounds, BC has to use their 2nd time out,
1:55 left.

3rd and 3.  BC player has to leave the game with a cramp.

Trumpy up the middle, a yard short.  

BC uses their last time out.

Trumpy out, shaken up.  Almost looks like he lost the ball.

1:41 left.

NU will go for it on 4th and 1.  This is the kind of play the Cats
need to be able to make to ice games.

Now they're reviewing the last play.  Fumble recovered by NU is the call.

Colter is stopped behind the line.  No, that's not how to do it!

BC takes over at their own 36 with 1:37 left.

Rettig gets the pass off, picks up 4.  Rettig throws it away before he
can get sacked.  He's hurt.  Late flag comes out.  Grounding on BC!

3rd and 16, why isn't the clock running?

Pass deep, but not deep enough.  4th and 2.

Pass complete, got the first but not by much.  40 seconds left,
ball at the BC 47.  Spike to kill the clock with 36 left.

BC gets it to the NU 41 and out of bounds.

29 seconds.

Pass is bobbled by the receiver.

25 seconds left.

Pass complete to the 19, 1st down.  

NU player (Arnold) down gives BC some extra time.

18 seconds left.  He gets up.

False start BC.  14 seconds left.

The ten second runoff rule applies, clock goes to 0:04.

Should be last play of regulation.

Rettig is sacked and NU wins the game!
--
Mike Nolan







From rstetson at capps-assoc.com  Sat Sep  3 14:28:26 2011
From: rstetson at capps-assoc.com (Roy S. Lamberton)
Date: Sat, 3 Sep 2011 15:28:26 -0400
Subject: [NU Sports] First Look at the Box Score
Message-ID: <001501cc6a6f$a76e7590$f64b60b0$@com>

Colter throws 17 to 8 different rcvrs....

7 guys have rushing plays! But I think Trumpy took charge this afternoon.

When we rush 4 or more, we tend to shut down the passing. When we go prevent, we're toast.

I'll take the win.

Go Cats!
rsl

++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
Roy S. Lamberton - Senior Associate & Unix Guru.
Computer Applications & Support Associates
Coach Roy's Random Thoughts - http://coachroy.org
-------------------- Also ----------------------
"Commissioner" Delaware American Legion Baseball
Director Media Relations - Little League 
  Senior League Softball World Series
CTR2 USN (67-70) - CTRCS USNR (Ret) (64-67/70-95)
Northwestern University - Speech 1974 - 
Chi Phi: Pi 1974, KD 1968
Publisher Emeritus: Purple Reign (Fox Sports)
================================================
Opinions expressed above are mine alone and are not
those of any organizations of which I am a member.
------------------------------------------------
"A true Democracy is two wolves and a lamb sitting
down to vote on what is for dinner."

"You have a republic, madam, if you can keep it"

==========  Go Cats -? Beat 'em All  ===========





From alan.abrahamson at gmail.com  Sat Sep  3 14:29:42 2011
From: alan.abrahamson at gmail.com (Alan Abrahamson)
Date: Sat, 3 Sep 2011 12:29:42 -0700
Subject: [NU Sports] Thanks to all from Korea
Message-ID: <CAN7senioSw5Fa=is=tsS0UsiOgLAJiAX2v0b2ErbjfPfOd9OOg@mail.gmail.com>

It is now approaching 4:30 in the morning over here.

Thanks to one and all for the play-by-play and the updates.

If I had prozac, I would surely take it after yet another Cardiac Cats
victory.

Warm wishes to all -- Alan

From sjtruog at yahoo.com  Sat Sep  3 14:28:48 2011
From: sjtruog at yahoo.com (SjT (Stephen J. Truog))
Date: Sat, 3 Sep 2011 12:28:48 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [NU Sports] CATS WIN!!!
Message-ID: <1315078128.72744.YahooMailNeo@web121707.mail.ne1.yahoo.com>

Whew - interesting there at the end, but a big win - especially to do it without Persa.

That's two years in a row getting big road wins in BCS conference territory.

Great win - now let's get back to Evanston and defend home turf!

GO CATS!!!
-SjT
?
* * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *
STEPHEN J. TRUOG
sjtruog at yahoo.com
GO CATS!!! GEAUX SAINTS!!!
Super Bowl XLIV Champions!
________________________________

From nolan at tssi.com  Sat Sep  3 14:34:20 2011
From: nolan at tssi.com (Mike Nolan)
Date: Sat, 3 Sep 2011 14:34:20 -0500 (CDT)
Subject: [NU Sports] Purdue pulling it out?
Message-ID: <20110903193420.CEDAC610F5@romaine.tssi.com>

Purdue put up 17 in the 4th quarter and is leading 27-24, but Middle
Tennessee may have a shot at a field goal to put it into OT.
--
Mike Nolan


From nolan at tssi.com  Sat Sep  3 14:34:52 2011
From: nolan at tssi.com (Mike Nolan)
Date: Sat, 3 Sep 2011 14:34:52 -0500 (CDT)
Subject: [NU Sports] Thanks to all from Korea
In-Reply-To: <CAN7senioSw5Fa=is=tsS0UsiOgLAJiAX2v0b2ErbjfPfOd9OOg@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <20110903193453.05FFF64962@romaine.tssi.com>

> It is now approaching 4:30 in the morning over here.
> 
> Thanks to one and all for the play-by-play and the updates.
> 
> If I had prozac, I would surely take it after yet another Cardiac Cats
> victory.
> 
> Warm wishes to all -- Alan

Our pleasure, Alan, especially the outcome.
--
Mike Nolan


From wildelk2 at aol.com  Sat Sep  3 14:35:02 2011
From: wildelk2 at aol.com (Eric Kunkel)
Date: Sat, 3 Sep 2011 15:35:02 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: [NU Sports] 24-17
Message-ID: <8CE3887B56E1085-56C-D3BA@webmail-d063.sysops.aol.com>


Cats win.  Heart attack in progress so I need to go.    GO CATS!!   Eric

From MHRJGScott at aol.com  Sat Sep  3 14:38:33 2011
From: MHRJGScott at aol.com (MHRJGScott at aol.com)
Date: Sat, 3 Sep 2011 15:38:33 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: [NU Sports] 24-17
Message-ID: <b726.65636210.3b93dc39@aol.com>

Great win, cardiac as usual. GO CATS!!!!

From johnl at mac.com  Sat Sep  3 14:44:07 2011
From: johnl at mac.com (Labbe John)
Date: Sat, 03 Sep 2011 14:44:07 -0500
Subject: [NU Sports] 10 second runoff
Message-ID: <FCCDEFE4-7B75-4EAE-949D-02DB1CE1B405@mac.com>

The new 10-second runoff rule worked in our favor today.  But I don't  
really like it especially for a false start.  I can envision a Cardiac  
Cat moment where we're down by four with the ball on our opponent's 2- 
yard line with 9 seconds left and we commit a false start.  Isn't  
backing us up 5 yards enough of a penalty?

John



From tbng at comcast.net  Sat Sep  3 14:44:01 2011
From: tbng at comcast.net (Dennis W. Brandt)
Date: Sat, 3 Sep 2011 15:44:01 -0400
Subject: [NU Sports] Thoughts
References: <001401cc6a6f$4a920760$dfb61620$@com>
Message-ID: <DACC1153B0674304A1AFD6D1730A348C@dennismachine>

WE WIN!  That's good.

Kain Colter played a gutty game.  That's good.

The D came up big at the end.  That's good.

The offensive line looks somewhat improved over last season.  That's pretty 
good.

We won without Persa.  That's amazing.

However . . .

We still have a weak pass rush.  That's real bad.  Five sacks isn't bad, but 
three were coverage/confused QB sacks (including the last one) and one a 
safety blitz.  BC's offensive line won't be the best one we play this year.

Colter has a long way to go to become a passer.  That's just the way it is 
for now.  Granted, the play calling was necessarily conservative, but we 
were one play from going into overtime and maybe losing.

We didn't cover well.  That's another real bad.

We still don't have a dominant runner.  That's awful.

We still can't get the short yardage for a first down.  That's deadly, as it 
almost was today.

We gave up 100+ yards to another runner.  That's fatal.

We have lots and lots of improving to do.  That's a fact.



From nolan at tssi.com  Sat Sep  3 14:44:26 2011
From: nolan at tssi.com (Mike Nolan)
Date: Sat, 3 Sep 2011 14:44:26 -0500 (CDT)
Subject: [NU Sports] 24-17
In-Reply-To: <b726.65636210.3b93dc39@aol.com>
Message-ID: <20110903194426.868AF64976@romaine.tssi.com>

> Great win, cardiac as usual. GO CATS!!!!

Not quite as heart-stopping as some, but it was getting there!

Purdue blocks a game-tying field goal to win 27-24.  

Tennessee Tech - Iowa is delayed by a storm with Iowa up 34-0.

Nebraska - Chattanooga just starting.  

Couldn't The Big Ten find a fourth Tennessee school to schedule
today?
--
Mike Nolan


From MHRJGScott at aol.com  Sat Sep  3 14:46:56 2011
From: MHRJGScott at aol.com (MHRJGScott at aol.com)
Date: Sat, 3 Sep 2011 15:46:56 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: [NU Sports] Thoughts
Message-ID: <b9ea.5bc14786.3b93de30@aol.com>

Good points, but I was most impressed by how physical we were. We hurt  
their best offensive players and swarmed on a lot of tackles No mildcats  today.

From nolan at tssi.com  Sat Sep  3 14:47:16 2011
From: nolan at tssi.com (Mike Nolan)
Date: Sat, 3 Sep 2011 14:47:16 -0500 (CDT)
Subject: [NU Sports] 10 second runoff
In-Reply-To: <FCCDEFE4-7B75-4EAE-949D-02DB1CE1B405@mac.com>
Message-ID: <20110903194716.C2B0264974@romaine.tssi.com>

> The new 10-second runoff rule worked in our favor today.  But I don't  
> really like it especially for a false start.  I can envision a Cardiac  
> Cat moment where we're down by four with the ball on our opponent's 2- 
> yard line with 9 seconds left and we commit a false start.  Isn't  
> backing us up 5 yards enough of a penalty?

Had that grounding call occurred in the last minute, there would have
been a ten second runoff there too.  I thought the clock should have
started on the 'ready for play' after that penalty, as it would have kept
going on a sack.  Guess not.
--
Mike Nolan


From nolan at tssi.com  Sat Sep  3 14:56:46 2011
From: nolan at tssi.com (Mike Nolan)
Date: Sat, 3 Sep 2011 14:56:46 -0500 (CDT)
Subject: [NU Sports] Thoughts
In-Reply-To: <b9ea.5bc14786.3b93de30@aol.com>
Message-ID: <20110903195647.3470C610F5@romaine.tssi.com>

> Good points, but I was most impressed by how physical we were. We hurt  
> their best offensive players and swarmed on a lot of tackles No mildcats  today.

I agree, this is the kind of game that we have lost in the past, sometimes
badly.  But we won, and now they've got a list of things to work on.

MSU didn't exactly light up the scoreboard, last night, either.
Purdue won their game, but the coaches won't be happy about it.
--
Mike Nolan


From johnl at mac.com  Sat Sep  3 15:02:50 2011
From: johnl at mac.com (Labbe John)
Date: Sat, 03 Sep 2011 15:02:50 -0500
Subject: [NU Sports] 10 second runoff
In-Reply-To: <20110903194716.C2B0264974@romaine.tssi.com>
References: <20110903194716.C2B0264974@romaine.tssi.com>
Message-ID: <5C8F24EB-D833-4ED7-9ED6-62307F81E211@mac.com>

We thought the same thing after the grounding call.  Seemed the clock  
should have started on the ready for play either for your rationale  
(make it like a sack) or on the basis that the previous play had ended  
with a midfield tackle (after a penalty I thought you went back to the  
previous play to determine whether the clock starts on the ready for  
play).

JL

On Sep 3, 2011, at 2:47 PM, Mike Nolan wrote:

>> The new 10-second runoff rule worked in our favor today.  But I don't
>> really like it especially for a false start.  I can envision a  
>> Cardiac
>> Cat moment where we're down by four with the ball on our opponent's  
>> 2-
>> yard line with 9 seconds left and we commit a false start.  Isn't
>> backing us up 5 yards enough of a penalty?
>
> Had that grounding call occurred in the last minute, there would have
> been a ten second runoff there too.  I thought the clock should have
> started on the 'ready for play' after that penalty, as it would have  
> kept
> going on a sack.  Guess not.
> --
> Mike Nolan


From hakirsch at aol.com  Sat Sep  3 15:04:41 2011
From: hakirsch at aol.com (hakirsch at aol.com)
Date: Sat, 3 Sep 2011 20:04:41 +0000
Subject: [NU Sports] 10 second runoff
In-Reply-To: <5C8F24EB-D833-4ED7-9ED6-62307F81E211@mac.com>
References: <20110903194716.C2B0264974@romaine.tssi.com><5C8F24EB-D833-4ED7-9ED6-62307F81E211@mac.com>
Message-ID: <1594895463-1315080282-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-525034698-@b4.c7.bise6.blackberry>

Someone tell Dennis we won.

  I couldn't watch the second half but thanks for the updates as well

Harry
Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry

-----Original Message-----
From: Labbe John <johnl at mac.com>
Sender: nwu-sports-bounces at tssi.com
Date: Sat, 03 Sep 2011 15:02:50 
To: Mike Nolan<nolan at tssi.com>
Cc: NU nwu-sports at tssi.com<nwu-sports at tssi.com>
Subject: Re: [NU Sports] 10 second runoff

We thought the same thing after the grounding call.  Seemed the clock  
should have started on the ready for play either for your rationale  
(make it like a sack) or on the basis that the previous play had ended  
with a midfield tackle (after a penalty I thought you went back to the  
previous play to determine whether the clock starts on the ready for  
play).

JL

On Sep 3, 2011, at 2:47 PM, Mike Nolan wrote:

>> The new 10-second runoff rule worked in our favor today.  But I don't
>> really like it especially for a false start.  I can envision a  
>> Cardiac
>> Cat moment where we're down by four with the ball on our opponent's  
>> 2-
>> yard line with 9 seconds left and we commit a false start.  Isn't
>> backing us up 5 yards enough of a penalty?
>
> Had that grounding call occurred in the last minute, there would have
> been a ten second runoff there too.  I thought the clock should have
> started on the 'ready for play' after that penalty, as it would have  
> kept
> going on a sack.  Guess not.
> --
> Mike Nolan

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From neonrye at aol.com  Sat Sep  3 15:20:54 2011
From: neonrye at aol.com (neonrye at aol.com)
Date: Sat, 3 Sep 2011 20:20:54 +0000
Subject: [NU Sports] 10 second runoff
In-Reply-To: <1594895463-1315080282-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-525034698-@b4.c7.bise6.blackberry>
References: <20110903194716.C2B0264974@romaine.tssi.com><5C8F24EB-D833-4ED7-9ED6-62307F81E211@mac.com><1594895463-1315080282-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-525034698-@b4.c7.bise6.blackberry>
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I was at the game.  Great venue.  Fantastic spirit among our fans.  I had a blast.

My dad died a year ago yesterday.  I think he tipped those missed FG's for BC.:-)
Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry

-----Original Message-----
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To: Labbe John<johnl at mac.com>; <nwu-sports-bounces at tssi.com>; Mike Nolan<nolan at tssi.com>
Reply-To: hakirsch at aol.com
Cc: NU nwu-sports at tssi.com<nwu-sports at tssi.com>
Subject: Re: [NU Sports] 10 second runoff

Someone tell Dennis we won.

  I couldn't watch the second half but thanks for the updates as well

Harry
Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry

-----Original Message-----
From: Labbe John <johnl at mac.com>
Sender: nwu-sports-bounces at tssi.com
Date: Sat, 03 Sep 2011 15:02:50 
To: Mike Nolan<nolan at tssi.com>
Cc: NU nwu-sports at tssi.com<nwu-sports at tssi.com>
Subject: Re: [NU Sports] 10 second runoff

We thought the same thing after the grounding call.  Seemed the clock  
should have started on the ready for play either for your rationale  
(make it like a sack) or on the basis that the previous play had ended  
with a midfield tackle (after a penalty I thought you went back to the  
previous play to determine whether the clock starts on the ready for  
play).

JL

On Sep 3, 2011, at 2:47 PM, Mike Nolan wrote:

>> The new 10-second runoff rule worked in our favor today.  But I don't
>> really like it especially for a false start.  I can envision a  
>> Cardiac
>> Cat moment where we're down by four with the ball on our opponent's  
>> 2-
>> yard line with 9 seconds left and we commit a false start.  Isn't
>> backing us up 5 yards enough of a penalty?
>
> Had that grounding call occurred in the last minute, there would have
> been a ten second runoff there too.  I thought the clock should have
> started on the 'ready for play' after that penalty, as it would have  
> kept
> going on a sack.  Guess not.
> --
> Mike Nolan

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From sjtruog at yahoo.com  Sat Sep  3 15:28:02 2011
From: sjtruog at yahoo.com (SjT (Stephen J. Truog))
Date: Sat, 3 Sep 2011 13:28:02 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [NU Sports] 10 second runoff
In-Reply-To: <20110903194716.C2B0264974@romaine.tssi.com>
References: <FCCDEFE4-7B75-4EAE-949D-02DB1CE1B405@mac.com>
 <20110903194716.C2B0264974@romaine.tssi.com>
Message-ID: <1315081682.31739.YahooMailNeo@web121711.mail.ne1.yahoo.com>

Agreed on both ... simply moving the ball back five yards and starting the clock when spotted seems penalty enough.

And yes, the clock should start on the grounding play ... both of them. :)

But I guess everyone's allowed some first-game jitters ... I flipped over for the end of the Purdue game and after MTSU completed a big pass, the commentator said that the quarterback should "take a knee" instead of spiking the ball to kill the clock. :)

GO CATS!!!
-SjT
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* * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *
STEPHEN J. TRUOG
sjtruog at yahoo.com
GO CATS!!! GEAUX SAINTS!!!
Super Bowl XLIV Champions!
________________________________



________________________________
From: Mike Nolan <nolan at tssi.com>
To: Labbe John <johnl at mac.com>
Cc: "NU nwu-sports at tssi.com" <nwu-sports at tssi.com>
Sent: Saturday, September 3, 2011 12:47 PM
Subject: Re: [NU Sports] 10 second runoff

> The new 10-second runoff rule worked in our favor today.? But I don't? 
> really like it especially for a false start.? I can envision a Cardiac? 
> Cat moment where we're down by four with the ball on our opponent's 2- 
> yard line with 9 seconds left and we commit a false start.? Isn't? 
> backing us up 5 yards enough of a penalty?

Had that grounding call occurred in the last minute, there would have
been a ten second runoff there too.? I thought the clock should have
started on the 'ready for play' after that penalty, as it would have kept
going on a sack.? Guess not.
--
Mike Nolan

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From tbng at comcast.net  Sat Sep  3 15:33:15 2011
From: tbng at comcast.net (Dennis W. Brandt)
Date: Sat, 3 Sep 2011 16:33:15 -0400
Subject: [NU Sports] 10 second runoff
References: <FCCDEFE4-7B75-4EAE-949D-02DB1CE1B405@mac.com>
 <20110903194716.C2B0264974@romaine.tssi.com>
 <1315081682.31739.YahooMailNeo@web121711.mail.ne1.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <48254A3F2834480E9178DB766A0E5C1E@dennismachine>

And what exactly was the rationale in making that rule change?  Rules of 
that nature generally try to prevent one side or the other getting an unfair 
advantage.  How does the offense benefit by getting an illegal procedure 
call? 


From nolan at tssi.com  Sat Sep  3 15:37:56 2011
From: nolan at tssi.com (Mike Nolan)
Date: Sat, 3 Sep 2011 15:37:56 -0500 (CDT)
Subject: [NU Sports] 10 second runoff
In-Reply-To: <48254A3F2834480E9178DB766A0E5C1E@dennismachine>
Message-ID: <20110903203756.870B464966@romaine.tssi.com>

> And what exactly was the rationale in making that rule change?  Rules of 
> that nature generally try to prevent one side or the other getting an unfair 
> advantage.  How does the offense benefit by getting an illegal procedure 
> call? 

A deliberate illegal procedure penalty might give the offense enough time 
to get a call in or even get the field goal team on.  
--
Mike Nolan


From scottzel at gmail.com  Sat Sep  3 15:58:19 2011
From: scottzel at gmail.com (Scott Zeller, M.D.)
Date: Sat, 3 Sep 2011 13:58:19 -0700
Subject: [NU Sports] Thoughts
In-Reply-To: <DACC1153B0674304A1AFD6D1730A348C@dennismachine>
References: <001401cc6a6f$4a920760$dfb61620$@com>
 <DACC1153B0674304A1AFD6D1730A348C@dennismachine>
Message-ID: <CAHChqvhU=sT0vdT16SQ=h85W+-py-jJ4-EhVKHA62KweGiHYAw@mail.gmail.com>

On Sat, Sep 3, 2011 at 12:44 PM, Dennis W. Brandt <tbng at comcast.net> wrote:

>
> We still have a weak pass rush.  That's real bad.  Five sacks isn't bad,
> but three were coverage/confused QB sacks (including the last one) and one a
> safety blitz.  BC's offensive line won't be the best one we play this year.
>

On the other hand, isn't BC known as "offensive lineman university"? At
least that's what the pathetic announcer said.

From sjtruog at yahoo.com  Sat Sep  3 16:10:17 2011
From: sjtruog at yahoo.com (SjT (Stephen J. Truog))
Date: Sat, 3 Sep 2011 14:10:17 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [NU Sports] Almost as good as watching a Wildcat win ...
Message-ID: <1315084217.27529.YahooMailNeo@web121708.mail.ne1.yahoo.com>

... seeing Notre Dame get booed off its own field by their pathetic fans after trailing 0-16 at halftime to USF.

Has the glow gone off of that turncoat Kelley so soon? Will they be calling for the reign of Holtz II by the end of the day in South Bend?

GO CATS!!!
-SjT

PS - In the look-alike game, BC's coach sure looks like Tony Sporano's (Dolphins coach) long lost twin ... and Michigan's Brady Hoke could be a cousin of Chris Christie.
?
* * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *
STEPHEN J. TRUOG
sjtruog at yahoo.com
GO CATS!!! GEAUX SAINTS!!!
Super Bowl XLIV Champions!
________________________________

From rstetson at capps-assoc.com  Sat Sep  3 17:04:05 2011
From: rstetson at capps-assoc.com (Roy S. Lamberton)
Date: Sat, 3 Sep 2011 18:04:05 -0400
Subject: [NU Sports] Thoughts
In-Reply-To: <CAHChqvhU=sT0vdT16SQ=h85W+-py-jJ4-EhVKHA62KweGiHYAw@mail.gmail.com>
References: <001401cc6a6f$4a920760$dfb61620$@com>
 <DACC1153B0674304A1AFD6D1730A348C@dennismachine>
 <CAHChqvhU=sT0vdT16SQ=h85W+-py-jJ4-EhVKHA62KweGiHYAw@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <001d01cc6a85$65be32a0$313a97e0$@com>

Watching UNL play their new "Osborne" offense, I started to flash back to the old
Oklahoma/Nebraska contests - wishbone vs option games - 

But if UNL gets that thing really going, they're probably going to be a tough team to
beat, since nobody else in the conference runs it. Maybe we can dig out some Wishbone
plays?

Colter at QB, Dunsmore at FB and Adonis and Trumpy on the "bone." Would shake up dOSU I'm
thinkin'

[but we'd have to start working on it now and I don't think we have the extra time.]

Go Cats

rsl

++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
Roy S. Lamberton - Senior Associate & Unix Guru.
Computer Applications & Support Associates
Coach Roy's Random Thoughts - http://coachroy.org
-------------------- Also ----------------------
"Commissioner" Delaware American Legion Baseball
Director Media Relations - Little League 
  Senior League Softball World Series
CTR2 USN (67-70) - CTRCS USNR (Ret) (64-67/70-95)
Northwestern University - Speech 1974 - 
Chi Phi: Pi 1974, KD 1968
Publisher Emeritus: Purple Reign (Fox Sports)
================================================
Opinions expressed above are mine alone and are not
those of any organizations of which I am a member.
------------------------------------------------
"A true Democracy is two wolves and a lamb sitting
down to vote on what is for dinner."

"You have a republic, madam, if you can keep it"

==========  Go Cats -? Beat 'em All  ===========



-----Original Message-----
From: nwu-sports-bounces at tssi.com [mailto:nwu-sports-bounces at tssi.com] On Behalf Of Scott
Zeller, M.D.
Sent: Saturday, September 03, 2011 4:58 PM
To: nwu-sports at tssi.com
Subject: Re: [NU Sports] Thoughts

On Sat, Sep 3, 2011 at 12:44 PM, Dennis W. Brandt <tbng at comcast.net> wrote:

>
> We still have a weak pass rush.  That's real bad.  Five sacks isn't bad,
> but three were coverage/confused QB sacks (including the last one) and one a
> safety blitz.  BC's offensive line won't be the best one we play this year.
>

On the other hand, isn't BC known as "offensive lineman university"? At
least that's what the pathetic announcer said.
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From nolan at tssi.com  Sat Sep  3 17:13:14 2011
From: nolan at tssi.com (Mike Nolan)
Date: Sat, 3 Sep 2011 17:13:14 -0500 (CDT)
Subject: [NU Sports] More on OU
Message-ID: <20110903221314.3FE3E64936@romaine.tssi.com>

Still not much further beyond the rumor stage, but it seems likely
Texas is going to be given an ultimatum soon.

http://newsok.com/ous-sole-focus-now-on-joining-pac-12/article/3601037?custom_click=lead_story_title
--
Mike Nolan


From sjtruog at yahoo.com  Sat Sep  3 17:26:59 2011
From: sjtruog at yahoo.com (SjT (Stephen J. Truog))
Date: Sat, 3 Sep 2011 15:26:59 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [NU Sports] Either $C is really starting to hurt from the sanctions
	...
Message-ID: <1315088819.16074.YahooMailNeo@web121711.mail.ne1.yahoo.com>

... or Minny may be a LOT better than we all thought! Because right now, a 2-star freshman QB is kicking some Trojan butt and the Gophers are within two at 17-19.

Seeing looks of agony on both Lane Kiffin and Brian Kelley's faces while their home stadium fans boo them mercilessly? Priceless!

Go Big Ten! Go Gophers!
GO CATS!!!
-SjT

PS - Nasty weather in South Bend and Ann Arbor ... glad NU wasn't at home today!
?
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STEPHEN J. TRUOG
sjtruog at yahoo.com
GO CATS!!! GEAUX SAINTS!!!
Super Bowl XLIV Champions!
________________________________

From nolan at tssi.com  Sat Sep  3 17:35:49 2011
From: nolan at tssi.com (Mike Nolan)
Date: Sat, 3 Sep 2011 17:35:49 -0500 (CDT)
Subject: [NU Sports] Poor NBC
Message-ID: <20110903223549.E2CE664956@romaine.tssi.com>

Not only is N*D* losing 16-0 to South Florida, the game has been delayed
by the same storm system that delayed other games throughout the midwest
today.

So, NBC is currently showing the 2010 Utah - N*D* game.  
--
Mike Nolan


From hakirsch at aol.com  Sat Sep  3 17:37:38 2011
From: hakirsch at aol.com (hakirsch at aol.com)
Date: Sat, 3 Sep 2011 22:37:38 +0000
Subject: [NU Sports] Thoughts
In-Reply-To: <001d01cc6a85$65be32a0$313a97e0$@com>
References: <001401cc6a6f$4a920760$dfb61620$@com><DACC1153B0674304A1AFD6D1730A348C@dennismachine><CAHChqvhU=sT0vdT16SQ=h85W+-py-jJ4-EhVKHA62KweGiHYAw@mail.gmail.com><001d01cc6a85$65be32a0$313a97e0$@com>
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One needs about 4 deep at QB and RB when you run the veer. Players are always getting injured since they get hit so often

Harry
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-----Original Message-----
From: "Roy S. Lamberton" <rstetson at capps-assoc.com>
Sender: nwu-sports-bounces at tssi.com
Date: Sat, 3 Sep 2011 18:04:05 
To: 'Scott Zeller, M.D.'<scottzel at gmail.com>; <nwu-sports at tssi.com>
Subject: Re: [NU Sports] Thoughts

Watching UNL play their new "Osborne" offense, I started to flash back to the old
Oklahoma/Nebraska contests - wishbone vs option games - 

But if UNL gets that thing really going, they're probably going to be a tough team to
beat, since nobody else in the conference runs it. Maybe we can dig out some Wishbone
plays?

Colter at QB, Dunsmore at FB and Adonis and Trumpy on the "bone." Would shake up dOSU I'm
thinkin'

[but we'd have to start working on it now and I don't think we have the extra time.]

Go Cats

rsl

++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
Roy S. Lamberton - Senior Associate & Unix Guru.
Computer Applications & Support Associates
Coach Roy's Random Thoughts - http://coachroy.org
-------------------- Also ----------------------
"Commissioner" Delaware American Legion Baseball
Director Media Relations - Little League 
  Senior League Softball World Series
CTR2 USN (67-70) - CTRCS USNR (Ret) (64-67/70-95)
Northwestern University - Speech 1974 - 
Chi Phi: Pi 1974, KD 1968
Publisher Emeritus: Purple Reign (Fox Sports)
================================================
Opinions expressed above are mine alone and are not
those of any organizations of which I am a member.
------------------------------------------------
"A true Democracy is two wolves and a lamb sitting
down to vote on what is for dinner."

"You have a republic, madam, if you can keep it"

==========  Go Cats -? Beat 'em All  ===========



-----Original Message-----
From: nwu-sports-bounces at tssi.com [mailto:nwu-sports-bounces at tssi.com] On Behalf Of Scott
Zeller, M.D.
Sent: Saturday, September 03, 2011 4:58 PM
To: nwu-sports at tssi.com
Subject: Re: [NU Sports] Thoughts

On Sat, Sep 3, 2011 at 12:44 PM, Dennis W. Brandt <tbng at comcast.net> wrote:

>
> We still have a weak pass rush.  That's real bad.  Five sacks isn't bad,
> but three were coverage/confused QB sacks (including the last one) and one a
> safety blitz.  BC's offensive line won't be the best one we play this year.
>

On the other hand, isn't BC known as "offensive lineman university"? At
least that's what the pathetic announcer said.
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From nolan at tssi.com  Sat Sep  3 17:43:12 2011
From: nolan at tssi.com (Mike Nolan)
Date: Sat, 3 Sep 2011 17:43:12 -0500 (CDT)
Subject: [NU Sports] Either $C is really starting to hurt from the sanctions
Message-ID: <20110903224312.6596764936@romaine.tssi.com>

> ... or Minny may be a LOT better than we all thought! Because right now, a =
> 2-star freshman QB is kicking some Trojan butt and the Gophers are within t=
> wo at 17-19.

The kid just got intercepted, that should ice the game.

(Looked like a lot of pushing and shoving by the DB on that play,
but no flag.)

But I think Minny is going to be improved this year.  
--
Mike Nolan


From sjtruog at yahoo.com  Sat Sep  3 18:40:51 2011
From: sjtruog at yahoo.com (SjT (Stephen J. Truog))
Date: Sat, 3 Sep 2011 16:40:51 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [NU Sports] Someone get Brian Kelley a juice box ...
Message-ID: <1315093251.57059.YahooMailNeo@web121703.mail.ne1.yahoo.com>

I mean, I know he has a right to be upset at his team with yet another turnover in the red zone, but he's beet red right now just going around and screaming in the face of every player he comes across.

Bobby Knight called and told him to settle down a little.

I knew Charlie swore like a sailor, but he didn't seem this bully-like on the sideline. I guess the standards for everything have changed for the Doh!mers after years of frustration.

GO CATS!!!
-SjT
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GO CATS!!! GEAUX SAINTS!!!
Super Bowl XLIV Champions!
________________________________

From neonrye at aol.com  Sat Sep  3 18:43:01 2011
From: neonrye at aol.com (neonrye at aol.com)
Date: Sat, 3 Sep 2011 23:43:01 +0000
Subject: [NU Sports] After Thoughts
Message-ID: <1304928398-1315093373-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-1931590652-@b25.c19.bise6.blackberry>

Today was just a fantastuc day for our program.  We could have been blown out early, but the D bent but refused to break.  And the O and Special Teams stepped up as the game moved along.  To win with Kain on the road is huge.  Kudos to Fitz, Coach Hank and Mick M, although I hated a couple of his fourth down calls.  Our team was well-prepared and poised.  Their body language was positive, and we showed more heart and passion than BC, even with a raucous crowd backing them.  Our 'Cat section was loud and intense.  I even loved the silly "indoor" tailgate.  All in all, a spectacular day.  And I get to do it again in 2 weeks at West Point, another great setting!  Can't wait.

Saw the Jims today at game--Mr. Victory and Honor (Leonard) and Mr. Civil War (Bendat), and their lovely girl friend and wife, respectively.  The List was alive and well in Chestnut Hill, MA.  And so were the 'Cats!

Paul Levinson
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From nolan at tssi.com  Sat Sep  3 20:00:49 2011
From: nolan at tssi.com (Mike Nolan)
Date: Sat, 3 Sep 2011 20:00:49 -0500 (CDT)
Subject: [NU Sports] W. Michigan - Michigan game ends early
Message-ID: <20110904010050.29FF264900@romaine.tssi.com>

The game was called off with 1:27 left in the 3rd quarter and Michigan
leading 34-10.

Can anyone remember the last time a Big Ten game ended early?

This could hurt the stats of the players.

The game in South Bend has been suspended for ANOTHER thunderstorm!  
The last delay lasted over 2 hours, NBC affiliates have got to
be furious.
--
Mike Nolan


From sportsbiz at gmail.com  Sat Sep  3 20:08:31 2011
From: sportsbiz at gmail.com (Sportsbiz)
Date: Sat, 3 Sep 2011 21:08:31 -0400
Subject: [NU Sports] More on OU
In-Reply-To: <20110903221314.3FE3E64936@romaine.tssi.com>
References: <20110903221314.3FE3E64936@romaine.tssi.com>
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Texas is finding itself too smart by half.  By overplaying its hand in
keeping the Big XII together last year, and then proceeding to announce its
TV network in a manner designed for maximum offensiveness to the rest of the
conference, they are now in a corner.  The Big XII clearly will not survive
a year and the Pac-12, Big Ten and SEC all require members to assign to the
conference the television rights to all of their football and basketball
games, which would leave the Longhorn Network with precious little headline
programming to meet its obligations under that rich ESPN contract, so what's
an orangeblood to do?  Join the Mountain West?  BYU wanted out over its
television network.  The Big East?  All of its schools are required to
assign their rights to the league too.  Looks like UT is about to become the
odd man out or about to lose their precious network.  It is, as they say in
Texas, nut cutting time.

If nothing else, it's entertaining as hell to watch.
Mark


On Sat, Sep 3, 2011 at 6:13 PM, Mike Nolan <nolan at tssi.com> wrote:

> Still not much further beyond the rumor stage, but it seems likely
> Texas is going to be given an ultimatum soon.
>
>
> http://newsok.com/ous-sole-focus-now-on-joining-pac-12/article/3601037?custom_click=lead_story_title
> --
> Mike Nolan
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From sportsbiz at gmail.com  Sat Sep  3 20:11:56 2011
From: sportsbiz at gmail.com (Sportsbiz)
Date: Sat, 3 Sep 2011 21:11:56 -0400
Subject: [NU Sports] Thoughts
In-Reply-To: <DACC1153B0674304A1AFD6D1730A348C@dennismachine>
References: <001401cc6a6f$4a920760$dfb61620$@com>
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Good points all but it is games (and film) like this one that teams learn
from and thankfully we won.  In the past that wasn't always the case and
isn't the old coaching saw, teams improve the most from the first to the
second game so let's see what happens next week, even if it won't be a true
test.  I think a week of carefully edited film study is likely to work
wonders.
Mark

On Sat, Sep 3, 2011 at 3:44 PM, Dennis W. Brandt <tbng at comcast.net> wrote:

> WE WIN!  That's good.
>
> Kain Colter played a gutty game.  That's good.
>
> The D came up big at the end.  That's good.
>
> The offensive line looks somewhat improved over last season.  That's pretty
> good.
>
> We won without Persa.  That's amazing.
>
> However . . .
>
> We still have a weak pass rush.  That's real bad.  Five sacks isn't bad,
> but three were coverage/confused QB sacks (including the last one) and one a
> safety blitz.  BC's offensive line won't be the best one we play this year.
>
> Colter has a long way to go to become a passer.  That's just the way it is
> for now.  Granted, the play calling was necessarily conservative, but we
> were one play from going into overtime and maybe losing.
>
> We didn't cover well.  That's another real bad.
>
> We still don't have a dominant runner.  That's awful.
>
> We still can't get the short yardage for a first down.  That's deadly, as
> it almost was today.
>
> We gave up 100+ yards to another runner.  That's fatal.
>
> We have lots and lots of improving to do.  That's a fact.
>
>
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From thehaze at earthlink.net  Sat Sep  3 20:22:28 2011
From: thehaze at earthlink.net (Jim Bendat)
Date: Sat, 3 Sep 2011 18:22:28 -0700 (GMT-07:00)
Subject: [NU Sports] After Thoughts
Message-ID: <21913038.1315099349185.JavaMail.root@wamui-bucket.atl.sa.earthlink.net>

Agree with Paul's comments about what a great win it was. Yet, it was oddly enjoyable because it was such a typical way for NU to win. Seriously, did any of us think the game was over when we led by 14? Of course we didn't -- because we know how things work with our team. We like to keep people in their seats until the final play of the game.

One slight correction, though. It's Mr. Brandt who is  Mr. Civil War. I'm the presidential inauguration guy (and, by the way, newest, best and final edition of my book will be out in January). Sorry I didn't get to meet Jim Leonard.

Looking forward to going to West Point as well.

Go Cats!

Jim B.



-----Original Message-----
>From: neonrye at aol.com
>Sent: Sep 3, 2011 4:43 PM
>To: nwu-sports at tssi.com
>Subject: [NU Sports] After Thoughts
>
>Today was just a fantastuc day for our program.  We could have been blown out early, but the D bent but refused to break.  And the O and Special Teams stepped up as the game moved along.  To win with Kain on the road is huge.  Kudos to Fitz, Coach Hank and Mick M, although I hated a couple of his fourth down calls.  Our team was well-prepared and poised.  Their body language was positive, and we showed more heart and passion than BC, even with a raucous crowd backing them.  Our 'Cat section was loud and intense.  I even loved the silly "indoor" tailgate.  All in all, a spectacular day.  And I get to do it again in 2 weeks at West Point, another great setting!  Can't wait.
>
>Saw the Jims today at game--Mr. Victory and Honor (Leonard) and Mr. Civil War (Bendat), and their lovely girl friend and wife, respectively.  The List was alive and well in Chestnut Hill, MA.  And so were the 'Cats!
>
>Paul Levinson
>Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry
>
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From nolan at tssi.com  Sat Sep  3 20:27:55 2011
From: nolan at tssi.com (Mike Nolan)
Date: Sat, 3 Sep 2011 20:27:55 -0500 (CDT)
Subject: [NU Sports] After Thoughts
In-Reply-To: <21913038.1315099349185.JavaMail.root@wamui-bucket.atl.sa.earthlink.net>
Message-ID: <20110904012755.5D2DC6491C@romaine.tssi.com>

> Agree with Paul's comments about what a great win it was. Yet, it was oddly enjoyable because it was such a typical way for NU to win. Seriously, did any of us think the game was over when we led by 14? Of course we didn't -- because we know how things work with our team. We like to keep people in their seats until the final play of the game.

The downside of that is all our opponents know our history, too, and they
don't quit either.  
--
Mike Nolan


From thehaze at earthlink.net  Sat Sep  3 20:36:17 2011
From: thehaze at earthlink.net (Jim Bendat)
Date: Sat, 3 Sep 2011 18:36:17 -0700 (GMT-07:00)
Subject: [NU Sports] After Thoughts
Message-ID: <5242374.1315100178132.JavaMail.root@wamui-bucket.atl.sa.earthlink.net>

Definitely true about our opponents, but not necessarily their fans.  A whole lot of BC fans left the stadium with nine minutes left when we went ahead, 24-10. -- Jim B.

-----Original Message-----
>From: Mike Nolan <nolan at tssi.com>
>Sent: Sep 3, 2011 6:27 PM
>To: thehaze at earthlink.net
>Cc: neonrye at aol.com, nwu-sports at tssi.com
>Subject: Re: [NU Sports] After Thoughts
>
>> Agree with Paul's comments about what a great win it was. Yet, it was oddly enjoyable because it was such a typical way for NU to win. Seriously, did any of us think the game was over when we led by 14? Of course we didn't -- because we know how things work with our team. We like to keep people in their seats until the final play of the game.
>
>The downside of that is all our opponents know our history, too, and they
>don't quit either.  
>--
>Mike Nolan


From sjtruog at yahoo.com  Sat Sep  3 20:39:30 2011
From: sjtruog at yahoo.com (SjT (Stephen J. Truog))
Date: Sat, 3 Sep 2011 18:39:30 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [NU Sports] Finally!
Message-ID: <1315100370.86625.YahooMailNeo@web121703.mail.ne1.yahoo.com>

Got my hopes up that Auburn would be taken down a notch by Utah State (I guess that'll have to wait for when the NCAA vacates their title) ...
Then almost believed Minnesota would pull the upset over the Spoiled Children ...

But finally, the upset threat becomes real with USF beating the Overhyped Irish in South Bend!?
And given how Kelly acted on the sideline, it couldn't happen to a nicer guy (well, maybe one - that Smug Smirk in Madison).

Funny to hear the NBC guys trying to put a bright spin on this ... wonder how long until the "Fire Brian Kelly / Hire Skip Holtz" Web site is online.

Cats Win + Irish Loss = Beautiful Day!

GO CATS!!!
-SjT
?
* * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *
STEPHEN J. TRUOG
sjtruog at yahoo.com
GO CATS!!! GEAUX SAINTS!!!
Super Bowl XLIV Champions!
________________________________

From sjtruog at yahoo.com  Sat Sep  3 20:52:11 2011
From: sjtruog at yahoo.com (SjT (Stephen J. Truog))
Date: Sat, 3 Sep 2011 18:52:11 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [NU Sports] More on OU
In-Reply-To: <CAPCH0EOtO-Y=URK+6ihWgngJ4daYqtBvbvQJ-Y1WvHzhtQbGkg@mail.gmail.com>
References: <20110903221314.3FE3E64936@romaine.tssi.com>
 <CAPCH0EOtO-Y=URK+6ihWgngJ4daYqtBvbvQJ-Y1WvHzhtQbGkg@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <1315101131.8201.YahooMailNeo@web121711.mail.ne1.yahoo.com>

I agree - Texas really brought this on itself with the way it stacked the deck on the penalty payments and then announced its own network (which still isn't available in most of Texas apparently).

I kind of liked the Horns' absolute rejection of the SEC overtures again and again during last year's conference shuffle (that says something good about 'em!), preferring instead to flirt with the Pac 12 and Big Ten ... but this hubris seems a bit much, even in a state where hubris runs big. I mean, at least Notre Dame's won a ton of national titles and Heismans ... Texas seems to win a title once every 35 years or so and their Heisman case is a lot less full than the one in Columbus.

I think Texas overreached here -- they're not Notre Dame, and some of their league schools at least had other options. Nebraska and Colorado look smart for bolting, as does ATM - the Horns probably should have tried to support their league instead of getting greedy. They still would have been the Big Fish in the Big XII and given how the league is overrated year after year, they would have had a pretty easy path to a title shot. Now they're trying to save a sinking ship.

Like I said, I feel worst for Mizzou and Kansas. Iowa State, Baylor and Kansas State probably don't merit being with the big boys, but the Tigers and Jayhawks are going to be left in the cold when this is all said and done. And Okie State and Texas Tech had better grab on to the Sooners' and Longhorns' legs tighter than Jeff Van Gundy during a Knicks-Heat melee.

As you said, it will be entertaining to watch. Texas could still get a pretty sweet deal with Big Ten or Pac 12 money (but have to give up their network). The Pac 12 especially would probably give them anything they wanted as it would get the league a much better national profile for TV contract time. The Big Ten can (and should) be more choosy and might prefer to wait and see if Oklahoma goes the SEC's way or if the SEC poaches someone from the ACC, leading to their merge with the Big East (which could leave Notre Dame out in the cold).

Get your popcorn ready, eh?
GO CATS!!!
-SjT
?
* * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *
STEPHEN J. TRUOG
sjtruog at yahoo.com
GO CATS!!! GEAUX SAINTS!!!
Super Bowl XLIV Champions!
________________________________

From jmccull at insight.rr.com  Sat Sep  3 21:02:41 2011
From: jmccull at insight.rr.com (J.R. McCullough)
Date: Sat, 3 Sep 2011 22:02:41 -0400
Subject: [NU Sports] W. Michigan - Michigan game ends early
In-Reply-To: <20110904010050.29FF264900@romaine.tssi.com>
References: <20110904010050.29FF264900@romaine.tssi.com>
Message-ID: <005101cc6aa6$baa62db0$2ff28910$@insight.rr.com>

I was at the OSU-USC in Ohio stadium in 1990 when it was called off because
of lightning. 
-----Original Message-----
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Behalf Of Mike Nolan
Sent: Saturday, September 03, 2011 9:01 PM
To: nwu-sports at tssi.com
Subject: [NU Sports] W. Michigan - Michigan game ends early

The game was called off with 1:27 left in the 3rd quarter and Michigan
leading 34-10.

Can anyone remember the last time a Big Ten game ended early?

This could hurt the stats of the players.

The game in South Bend has been suspended for ANOTHER thunderstorm!  
The last delay lasted over 2 hours, NBC affiliates have got to be furious.
--
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From thehaze at earthlink.net  Sat Sep  3 21:05:08 2011
From: thehaze at earthlink.net (Jim Bendat)
Date: Sat, 3 Sep 2011 19:05:08 -0700 (GMT-07:00)
Subject: [NU Sports] Indiana just lost to Testicle Tech
Message-ID: <11525566.1315101911356.JavaMail.root@wamui-bucket.atl.sa.earthlink.net>

Ball State beat Kevin Wilson's guys, 27-20


From sportsbiz at gmail.com  Sat Sep  3 21:09:53 2011
From: sportsbiz at gmail.com (Sportsbiz)
Date: Sat, 3 Sep 2011 22:09:53 -0400
Subject: [NU Sports] More on OU
In-Reply-To: <1315101131.8201.YahooMailNeo@web121711.mail.ne1.yahoo.com>
References: <20110903221314.3FE3E64936@romaine.tssi.com>
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 <1315101131.8201.YahooMailNeo@web121711.mail.ne1.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <CAPCH0EPinZ=mrE0oNp3KB7ZJnvExcjqXCoC=gCoE5XeUbUYCcw@mail.gmail.com>

Okie State doesn't have to worry too much because whatever OU decides to do,
that's what OSU will be doing - it's always been and will be a package, and
both of them are ok with that.

Kansas, K-State, Mizzou and Iowa State had accepted bids to the Big East
(which didn't plan on changing its name in accordance with major conference
custom) but that went away when the Big XII decided to stay together.  The
Big East commissioner has been unusally reticent during this recent bout of
speculations and rumors.  Should the SEC expand beyond TAMU and one from the
east, then all bets may be off as the ACC may find itself plundered and try
to, what for it, merge with the Big East in some fashion.

Conference realignment is so much fun.
Mark

On Sat, Sep 3, 2011 at 9:52 PM, SjT (Stephen J. Truog) <sjtruog at yahoo.com>wrote:

> I agree - Texas really brought this on itself with the way it stacked the
> deck on the penalty payments and then announced its own network (which still
> isn't available in most of Texas apparently).
>
> I kind of liked the Horns' absolute rejection of the SEC overtures again
> and again during last year's conference shuffle (that says something good
> about 'em!), preferring instead to flirt with the Pac 12 and Big Ten ... but
> this hubris seems a bit much, even in a state where hubris runs big. I mean,
> at least Notre Dame's won a ton of national titles and Heismans ... Texas
> seems to win a title once every 35 years or so and their Heisman case is a
> lot less full than the one in Columbus.
>
> I think Texas overreached here -- they're not Notre Dame, and some of their
> league schools at least had other options. Nebraska and Colorado look smart
> for bolting, as does ATM - the Horns probably should have tried to support
> their league instead of getting greedy. They still would have been the Big
> Fish in the Big XII and given how the league is overrated year after year,
> they would have had a pretty easy path to a title shot. Now they're trying
> to save a sinking ship.
>
> Like I said, I feel worst for Mizzou and Kansas. Iowa State, Baylor and
> Kansas State probably don't merit being with the big boys, but the Tigers
> and Jayhawks are going to be left in the cold when this is all said and
> done. And Okie State and Texas Tech had better grab on to the Sooners' and
> Longhorns' legs tighter than Jeff Van Gundy during a Knicks-Heat melee.
>
> As you said, it will be entertaining to watch. Texas could still get a
> pretty sweet deal with Big Ten or Pac 12 money (but have to give up their
> network). The Pac 12 especially would probably give them anything they
> wanted as it would get the league a much better national profile for TV
> contract time. The Big Ten can (and should) be more choosy and might prefer
> to wait and see if Oklahoma goes the SEC's way or if the SEC poaches someone
> from the ACC, leading to their merge with the Big East (which could leave
> Notre Dame out in the cold).
>
> Get your popcorn ready, eh?
> GO CATS!!!
> -SjT
>
> * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *
> STEPHEN J. TRUOG
> sjtruog at yahoo.com
> GO CATS!!! GEAUX SAINTS!!!
> Super Bowl XLIV Champions!
> ------------------------------
>
>


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From wildelk2 at aol.com  Sat Sep  3 21:15:28 2011
From: wildelk2 at aol.com (Eric Kunkel)
Date: Sat, 3 Sep 2011 22:15:28 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: [NU Sports] After Thoughts
In-Reply-To: <1304928398-1315093373-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-1931590652-@b25.c19.bise6.blackberry>
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Message-ID: <8CE38BFA5DE135A-15E0-3F491@webmail-m076.sysops.aol.com>

   Good stuff Paul.   Today we celebrate victory!  We owned the line of scrimmage on both sides of the ball.  Wildelk's fun-filled stat:  70 yards rushing on the 1st play from scrimmage, 45 yards the rest of the day!  McNaul was all over the place especially in the 2nd half; he reminded me of Fitz or McGarigle. 
   I liked piling up over 200 yards on the ground. Awesome job O-Line, as well as a minimum of stupid penalties.  This was a really nice win.  We'll get into the pass defense and 4th down decisions as the week progresses.  For tonight, let's be happy with "Job well done." for our team.  Very satisfying!


      GO CATS!!           Eric





-----Original Message-----
From: neonrye <neonrye at aol.com>
To: nwu-sports <nwu-sports at tssi.com>
Sent: Sat, Sep 3, 2011 3:43 pm
Subject: [NU Sports] After Thoughts


Today was just a fantastuc day for our program.  We could have been blown out 
early, but the D bent but refused to break.  And the O and Special Teams stepped 
up as the game moved along.  To win with Kain on the road is huge.  Kudos to 
Fitz, Coach Hank and Mick M, although I hated a couple of his fourth down calls.  
Our team was well-prepared and poised.  Their body language was positive, and we 
showed more heart and passion than BC, even with a raucous crowd backing them.  
Our 'Cat section was loud and intense.  I even loved the silly "indoor" 
tailgate.  All in all, a spectacular day.  And I get to do it again in 2 weeks 
at West Point, another great setting!  Can't wait.

Saw the Jims today at game--Mr. Victory and Honor (Leonard) and Mr. Civil War 
(Bendat), and their lovely girl friend and wife, respectively.  The List was 
alive and well in Chestnut Hill, MA.  And so were the 'Cats!

Paul Levinson
Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry

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From neonrye at aol.com  Sat Sep  3 22:21:21 2011
From: neonrye at aol.com (neonrye at aol.com)
Date: Sun, 4 Sep 2011 03:21:21 +0000
Subject: [NU Sports] After Thoughts
Message-ID: <154200850-1315106482-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-644019470-@b25.c19.bise6.blackberry>

Right--Inaugurations--just another senior moment,;-)
------Original Message------
From: Jim Bendat
To: neonrye at aol.com
To: nwu-sports at tssi.com
ReplyTo: Jim Bendat
Subject: Re: [NU Sports] After Thoughts
Sent: Sep 3, 2011 9:22 PM

Agree with Paul's comments about what a great win it was. Yet, it was oddly enjoyable because it was such a typical way for NU to win. Seriously, did any of us think the game was over when we led by 14? Of course we didn't -- because we know how things work with our team. We like to keep people in their seats until the final play of the game.

One slight correction, though. It's Mr. Brandt who is  Mr. Civil War. I'm the presidential inauguration guy (and, by the way, newest, best and final edition of my book will be out in January). Sorry I didn't get to meet Jim Leonard.

Looking forward to going to West Point as well.

Go Cats!

Jim B.



-----Original Message-----
>From: neonrye at aol.com
>Sent: Sep 3, 2011 4:43 PM
>To: nwu-sports at tssi.com
>Subject: [NU Sports] After Thoughts
>
>Today was just a fantastuc day for our program.  We could have been blown out early, but the D bent but refused to break.  And the O and Special Teams stepped up as the game moved along.  To win with Kain on the road is huge.  Kudos to Fitz, Coach Hank and Mick M, although I hated a couple of his fourth down calls.  Our team was well-prepared and poised.  Their body language was positive, and we showed more heart and passion than BC, even with a raucous crowd backing them.  Our 'Cat section was loud and intense.  I even loved the silly "indoor" tailgate.  All in all, a spectacular day.  And I get to do it again in 2 weeks at West Point, another great setting!  Can't wait.
>
>Saw the Jims today at game--Mr. Victory and Honor (Leonard) and Mr. Civil War (Bendat), and their lovely girl friend and wife, respectively.  The List was alive and well in Chestnut Hill, MA.  And so were the 'Cats!
>
>Paul Levinson
>Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry
>
>_______________________________________________
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From sjtruog at yahoo.com  Sat Sep  3 22:28:21 2011
From: sjtruog at yahoo.com (SjT (Stephen J. Truog))
Date: Sat, 3 Sep 2011 20:28:21 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [NU Sports] If he did get one, we need to ask for it back ...
Message-ID: <1315106901.69336.YahooMailNeo@web121711.mail.ne1.yahoo.com>

So flipping between evening games, I hear this gem from Musburger ...

"Isn't it ironic that tropical storm Lee is hitting the gulf coast and here we have a Lee playing for LSU."

I flip to ESPN where the Dawgs are stopped by Boise on fourth down and their color guy (Blackledge) says:

"And isn't it fitting that he played his high school ball right down the street here in Atlanta."

Now you tell me which one of those two is a Northwestern man!?!?!?!

Ugh - we must get an injunction to ban the use of Northwestern and Musburger in the same conversation for our reputation's sake!:)

BTW - both games suuuuuuck. Glad UGa's losing at least so the SEC egos don't get too super sized, but Oregon just keep shooting themselves in the foot with penalties, turnovers and dumb play calls. They just can't hang with the big boys when they play a good team (OSU, Auburn, LSU). They had a shot to get back in it late and called three straight five-yard flat out routes that failed miserably.

GO CATS!!!
-SjT
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sjtruog at yahoo.com
GO CATS!!! GEAUX SAINTS!!!
Super Bowl XLIV Champions!
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From clzahn at mindspring.com  Sat Sep  3 23:00:40 2011
From: clzahn at mindspring.com (Clark Zahn)
Date: Sat, 03 Sep 2011 21:00:40 -0700
Subject: [NU Sports] If he did get one, we need to ask for it back ...
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On 09/03/2011 08:28 PM, SjT (Stephen J. Truog) wrote:
>
> BTW - both games suuuuuuck. Glad UGa's losing at least so the SEC egos don't get too super sized, but Oregon just keep shooting themselves in the foot with penalties, turnovers and dumb play calls. They just can't hang with the big boys when they play a good team (OSU, Auburn, LSU). They had a shot to get back in it late and called three straight five-yard flat out routes that failed miserably.
>
> GO CATS!!!
> -SjT
>
>

Oregon has some "hot dog" guys who play recklessly trying to make the 
big play.  If they played with more discipline the Ducks could have won it.


From sjtruog at yahoo.com  Sat Sep  3 23:54:31 2011
From: sjtruog at yahoo.com (SjT (Stephen J. Truog))
Date: Sat, 3 Sep 2011 21:54:31 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [NU Sports] If he did get one, we need to ask for it back ...
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>Oregon has some "hot dog" guys who play recklessly trying to make the?
>big play.? If they played with more discipline the Ducks could have won it.


Agreed - not just the players but also the coaches. They had LSU's D sucking wind in the second quarter and were moving it by mixing it up. But that loose carrying is not working and the play calling really got predictable the second half. They just seem like the St. Louis Lambs of Mike Martz -- they love the O so much that they never focus on the D and when someone comes and pops the O in the mouth, they wilt.

You just wonder if anyone in the Pac 12 will figure out how to stop 'em. Stanford tried to score with them last year instead of standing up and getting physical.

Boise State, OTOH, took it right to their SEC foe on both sides of the ball. And I think there is something to how the only games Chip Kelley's teams have lost have been where the opponents have 2+ weeks to prepare ... their smoke and mirror gimmicks don't work when you can prepare for them.

GO CATS!!!
-SjT
?
* * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *
STEPHEN J. TRUOG
sjtruog at yahoo.com
GO CATS!!! GEAUX SAINTS!!!
Super Bowl XLIV Champions!
________________________________



________________________________
From: Clark Zahn <clzahn at mindspring.com>
To: NUSPORTS <nwu-sports at tssi.com>
Sent: Saturday, September 3, 2011 9:00 PM
Subject: Re: [NU Sports] If he did get one, we need to ask for it back ...

On 09/03/2011 08:28 PM, SjT (Stephen J. Truog) wrote:
>
> BTW - both games suuuuuuck. Glad UGa's losing at least so the SEC egos don't get too super sized, but Oregon just keep shooting themselves in the foot with penalties, turnovers and dumb play calls. They just can't hang with the big boys when they play a good team (OSU, Auburn, LSU). They had a shot to get back in it late and called three straight five-yard flat out routes that failed miserably.
>
> GO CATS!!!
> -SjT
>
>

Oregon has some "hot dog" guys who play recklessly trying to make the 
big play.? If they played with more discipline the Ducks could have won it.

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From jleonard518 at yahoo.com  Sun Sep  4 06:04:00 2011
From: jleonard518 at yahoo.com (Jim Leonard)
Date: Sun, 4 Sep 2011 04:04:00 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [NU Sports] This just Tweeted from WNUR Sports
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I think it is also worth?noting tha he intentionally threw three passes out of bounds, so he was even more accurate than that statisic shows.
?
Go Cats!
Jim

From: Alan Abrahamson <alan.abrahamson at gmail.com>
To: Northwestern Wildcats <nwu-sports at tssi.com>
Sent: Saturday, September 3, 2011 2:48 PM
Subject: [NU Sports] This just Tweeted from WNUR Sports

Colter 18-25 for 199 yards. 72% completion percentage is Dan Persa-like...
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From rstetson at capps-assoc.com  Sun Sep  4 08:12:33 2011
From: rstetson at capps-assoc.com (Roy S. Lamberton)
Date: Sun, 4 Sep 2011 09:12:33 -0400
Subject: [NU Sports] More on OU
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References: <20110903221314.3FE3E64936@romaine.tssi.com>
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 <1315101131.8201.YahooMailNeo@web121711.mail.ne1.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <002a01cc6b04$4f739d80$ee5ad880$@com>

Much is being made about the "Texas" network. But isn't that network a great framework for
a future Big (whatever) network similar to BTN.

It could save the Oklahomas, and maybe a few more Texas schools. 

With coverage and money now coming from BTN, I can't imagine any of the present teams
jumping ship, unless some super conference appeared. Texas could devote their newly
organized network into something similar to BTN and "save the day."

Of course, when you own your own oil field - the way UT does - it's hard to think of the
"bigger picture."

rsl

++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
Roy S. Lamberton - Senior Associate & Unix Guru.
Computer Applications & Support Associates
Coach Roy's Random Thoughts - http://coachroy.org
-------------------- Also ----------------------
"Commissioner" Delaware American Legion Baseball
Director Media Relations - Little League 
  Senior League Softball World Series
CTR2 USN (67-70) - CTRCS USNR (Ret) (64-67/70-95)
Northwestern University - Speech 1974 - 
Chi Phi: Pi 1974, KD 1968
Publisher Emeritus: Purple Reign (Fox Sports)
================================================
Opinions expressed above are mine alone and are not
those of any organizations of which I am a member.
------------------------------------------------
"A true Democracy is two wolves and a lamb sitting
down to vote on what is for dinner."

"You have a republic, madam, if you can keep it"

==========  Go Cats -? Beat 'em All  ===========



-----Original Message-----
From: nwu-sports-bounces at tssi.com [mailto:nwu-sports-bounces at tssi.com] On Behalf Of SjT
(Stephen J. Truog)
Sent: Saturday, September 03, 2011 9:52 PM
To: Sportsbiz; Mike Nolan
Cc: nwu-sports at tssi.com
Subject: Re: [NU Sports] More on OU

I agree - Texas really brought this on itself with the way it stacked the deck on the
penalty payments and then announced its own network (which still isn't available in most
of Texas apparently).

I kind of liked the Horns' absolute rejection of the SEC overtures again and again during
last year's conference shuffle (that says something good about 'em!), preferring instead
to flirt with the Pac 12 and Big Ten ... but this hubris seems a bit much, even in a state
where hubris runs big. I mean, at least Notre Dame's won a ton of national titles and
Heismans ... Texas seems to win a title once every 35 years or so and their Heisman case
is a lot less full than the one in Columbus.

I think Texas overreached here -- they're not Notre Dame, and some of their league schools
at least had other options. Nebraska and Colorado look smart for bolting, as does ATM -
the Horns probably should have tried to support their league instead of getting greedy.
They still would have been the Big Fish in the Big XII and given how the league is
overrated year after year, they would have had a pretty easy path to a title shot. Now
they're trying to save a sinking ship.

Like I said, I feel worst for Mizzou and Kansas. Iowa State, Baylor and Kansas State
probably don't merit being with the big boys, but the Tigers and Jayhawks are going to be
left in the cold when this is all said and done. And Okie State and Texas Tech had better
grab on to the Sooners' and Longhorns' legs tighter than Jeff Van Gundy during a
Knicks-Heat melee.

As you said, it will be entertaining to watch. Texas could still get a pretty sweet deal
with Big Ten or Pac 12 money (but have to give up their network). The Pac 12 especially
would probably give them anything they wanted as it would get the league a much better
national profile for TV contract time. The Big Ten can (and should) be more choosy and
might prefer to wait and see if Oklahoma goes the SEC's way or if the SEC poaches someone
from the ACC, leading to their merge with the Big East (which could leave Notre Dame out
in the cold).

Get your popcorn ready, eh?
GO CATS!!!
-SjT
?
* * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *
STEPHEN J. TRUOG
sjtruog at yahoo.com
GO CATS!!! GEAUX SAINTS!!!
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From sportsbiz at gmail.com  Sun Sep  4 08:35:37 2011
From: sportsbiz at gmail.com (Sportsbiz)
Date: Sun, 4 Sep 2011 09:35:37 -0400
Subject: [NU Sports] More on OU
In-Reply-To: <002a01cc6b04$4f739d80$ee5ad880$@com>
References: <20110903221314.3FE3E64936@romaine.tssi.com>
 <CAPCH0EOtO-Y=URK+6ihWgngJ4daYqtBvbvQJ-Y1WvHzhtQbGkg@mail.gmail.com>
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The TV contracts for all leagues except the Big East have just be
renegotiated and are locked in for the next 5-7 years.  They are subject to
being reopened if the league loses members or gains a significant new
market, which is why the SEC is interested in TAMU and also why despite the
alleged removal of the same state limitation from existing members, it is
most likely that the eastern invitee would come from somewhere that is not
currently a market.

The Pac-12 already has a network in place; in fact it has seven of them.
One conference wide and six regional ones.  Of course that scenario would
let the 4      Big 12 schools use the Longhorn network as the Southwest
regional net but only if Texas gave it up to the league. Could happen but
Pac-12 would probably have to give them a break on the money.
Alternatively, the Big 12 could grab BYU with its network and get back to 10
or bring in BYU, SMU and Houston to get to 12.  See, isn't this fun.
Mark

On Sun, Sep 4, 2011 at 9:12 AM, Roy S. Lamberton
<rstetson at capps-assoc.com>wrote:

> Much is being made about the "Texas" network. But isn't that network a
> great framework for
> a future Big (whatever) network similar to BTN.
>
> It could save the Oklahomas, and maybe a few more Texas schools.
>
> With coverage and money now coming from BTN, I can't imagine any of the
> present teams
> jumping ship, unless some super conference appeared. Texas could devote
> their newly
> organized network into something similar to BTN and "save the day."
>
> Of course, when you own your own oil field - the way UT does - it's hard to
> think of the
> "bigger picture."
>
> rsl
>
> ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
> Roy S. Lamberton - Senior Associate & Unix Guru.
> Computer Applications & Support Associates
> Coach Roy's Random Thoughts - http://coachroy.org
> -------------------- Also ----------------------
> "Commissioner" Delaware American Legion Baseball
> Director Media Relations - Little League
>  Senior League Softball World Series
> CTR2 USN (67-70) - CTRCS USNR (Ret) (64-67/70-95)
> Northwestern University - Speech 1974 -
> Chi Phi: Pi 1974, KD 1968
> Publisher Emeritus: Purple Reign (Fox Sports)
> ================================================
> Opinions expressed above are mine alone and are not
> those of any organizations of which I am a member.
> ------------------------------------------------
> "A true Democracy is two wolves and a lamb sitting
> down to vote on what is for dinner."
>
> "You have a republic, madam, if you can keep it"
>
> ==========  Go Cats -  Beat 'em All  ===========
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: nwu-sports-bounces at tssi.com [mailto:nwu-sports-bounces at tssi.com] On
> Behalf Of SjT
> (Stephen J. Truog)
> Sent: Saturday, September 03, 2011 9:52 PM
> To: Sportsbiz; Mike Nolan
> Cc: nwu-sports at tssi.com
> Subject: Re: [NU Sports] More on OU
>
> I agree - Texas really brought this on itself with the way it stacked the
> deck on the
> penalty payments and then announced its own network (which still isn't
> available in most
> of Texas apparently).
>
> I kind of liked the Horns' absolute rejection of the SEC overtures again
> and again during
> last year's conference shuffle (that says something good about 'em!),
> preferring instead
> to flirt with the Pac 12 and Big Ten ... but this hubris seems a bit much,
> even in a state
> where hubris runs big. I mean, at least Notre Dame's won a ton of national
> titles and
> Heismans ... Texas seems to win a title once every 35 years or so and their
> Heisman case
> is a lot less full than the one in Columbus.
>
> I think Texas overreached here -- they're not Notre Dame, and some of their
> league schools
> at least had other options. Nebraska and Colorado look smart for bolting,
> as does ATM -
> the Horns probably should have tried to support their league instead of
> getting greedy.
> They still would have been the Big Fish in the Big XII and given how the
> league is
> overrated year after year, they would have had a pretty easy path to a
> title shot. Now
> they're trying to save a sinking ship.
>
> Like I said, I feel worst for Mizzou and Kansas. Iowa State, Baylor and
> Kansas State
> probably don't merit being with the big boys, but the Tigers and Jayhawks
> are going to be
> left in the cold when this is all said and done. And Okie State and Texas
> Tech had better
> grab on to the Sooners' and Longhorns' legs tighter than Jeff Van Gundy
> during a
> Knicks-Heat melee.
>
> As you said, it will be entertaining to watch. Texas could still get a
> pretty sweet deal
> with Big Ten or Pac 12 money (but have to give up their network). The Pac
> 12 especially
> would probably give them anything they wanted as it would get the league a
> much better
> national profile for TV contract time. The Big Ten can (and should) be more
> choosy and
> might prefer to wait and see if Oklahoma goes the SEC's way or if the SEC
> poaches someone
> from the ACC, leading to their merge with the Big East (which could leave
> Notre Dame out
> in the cold).
>
> Get your popcorn ready, eh?
> GO CATS!!!
> -SjT
>
> * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *
> STEPHEN J. TRUOG
> sjtruog at yahoo.com
> GO CATS!!! GEAUX SAINTS!!!
> Super Bowl XLIV Champions!
> ________________________________
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From rstetson at capps-assoc.com  Sun Sep  4 10:08:08 2011
From: rstetson at capps-assoc.com (Roy S. Lamberton)
Date: Sun, 4 Sep 2011 11:08:08 -0400
Subject: [NU Sports] More on OU
In-Reply-To: <CAPCH0ENUxPCyA5p69sfnCmS4Yfx7U+nfbVbYb_1ZJjASpPG_ng@mail.gmail.com>
References: <20110903221314.3FE3E64936@romaine.tssi.com>
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Glad someone actually has a handle on all this..

 

Since I'm out of the commercial sports biz, I no longer keep track.

 

But it does seem that mobile phone apps is where the growth is going to be - AND internet
delivery of sports programming also appears to be growing.

 

Is that just my impression, or is there real data to back that up.?

 

rsl

 

++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

Roy S. Lamberton - Senior Associate & Unix Guru.

Computer Applications & Support Associates

Coach Roy's Random Thoughts - http://coachroy.org

-------------------- Also ----------------------

"Commissioner" Delaware American Legion Baseball

Director Media Relations - Little League 

  Senior League Softball World Series

CTR2 USN (67-70) - CTRCS USNR (Ret) (64-67/70-95)

Northwestern University - Speech 1974 - 

Chi Phi: Pi 1974, KD 1968

Publisher Emeritus: Purple Reign (Fox Sports)

================================================

Opinions expressed above are mine alone and are not

those of any organizations of which I am a member.

------------------------------------------------

"A true Democracy is two wolves and a lamb sitting

down to vote on what is for dinner."

 

"You have a republic, madam, if you can keep it"

 

==========  Go Cats -  Beat 'em All  ===========

 

 

From: Sportsbiz [mailto:sportsbiz at gmail.com] 
Sent: Sunday, September 04, 2011 9:36 AM
To: Roy S. Lamberton
Cc: SjT (Stephen J. Truog); nwu-sports at tssi.com
Subject: Re: [NU Sports] More on OU

 

The TV contracts for all leagues except the Big East have just be renegotiated and are
locked in for the next 5-7 years.  They are subject to being reopened if the league loses
members or gains a significant new market, which is why the SEC is interested in TAMU and
also why despite the alleged removal of the same state limitation from existing members,
it is most likely that the eastern invitee would come from somewhere that is not currently
a market.

The Pac-12 already has a network in place; in fact it has seven of them.  One conference
wide and six regional ones.  Of course that scenario would let the 4      Big 12 schools
use the Longhorn network as the Southwest regional net but only if Texas gave it up to the
league. Could happen but Pac-12 would probably have to give them a break on the money.
Alternatively, the Big 12 could grab BYU with its network and get back to 10 or bring in
BYU, SMU and Houston to get to 12.  See, isn't this fun.
Mark

On Sun, Sep 4, 2011 at 9:12 AM, Roy S. Lamberton <rstetson at capps-assoc.com> wrote:

Much is being made about the "Texas" network. But isn't that network a great framework for
a future Big (whatever) network similar to BTN.

It could save the Oklahomas, and maybe a few more Texas schools.

With coverage and money now coming from BTN, I can't imagine any of the present teams
jumping ship, unless some super conference appeared. Texas could devote their newly
organized network into something similar to BTN and "save the day."

Of course, when you own your own oil field - the way UT does - it's hard to think of the
"bigger picture."

rsl

++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
Roy S. Lamberton - Senior Associate & Unix Guru.
Computer Applications & Support Associates
Coach Roy's Random Thoughts - http://coachroy.org
-------------------- Also ----------------------
"Commissioner" Delaware American Legion Baseball
Director Media Relations - Little League
 Senior League Softball World Series
CTR2 USN (67-70) - CTRCS USNR (Ret) (64-67/70-95)
Northwestern University - Speech 1974 -
Chi Phi: Pi 1974, KD 1968
Publisher Emeritus: Purple Reign (Fox Sports)
================================================
Opinions expressed above are mine alone and are not
those of any organizations of which I am a member.
------------------------------------------------
"A true Democracy is two wolves and a lamb sitting
down to vote on what is for dinner."

"You have a republic, madam, if you can keep it"

==========  Go Cats -  Beat 'em All  ===========



-----Original Message-----
From: nwu-sports-bounces at tssi.com [mailto:nwu-sports-bounces at tssi.com] On Behalf Of SjT
(Stephen J. Truog)
Sent: Saturday, September 03, 2011 9:52 PM
To: Sportsbiz; Mike Nolan
Cc: nwu-sports at tssi.com
Subject: Re: [NU Sports] More on OU


I agree - Texas really brought this on itself with the way it stacked the deck on the
penalty payments and then announced its own network (which still isn't available in most
of Texas apparently).

I kind of liked the Horns' absolute rejection of the SEC overtures again and again during
last year's conference shuffle (that says something good about 'em!), preferring instead
to flirt with the Pac 12 and Big Ten ... but this hubris seems a bit much, even in a state
where hubris runs big. I mean, at least Notre Dame's won a ton of national titles and
Heismans ... Texas seems to win a title once every 35 years or so and their Heisman case
is a lot less full than the one in Columbus.

I think Texas overreached here -- they're not Notre Dame, and some of their league schools
at least had other options. Nebraska and Colorado look smart for bolting, as does ATM -
the Horns probably should have tried to support their league instead of getting greedy.
They still would have been the Big Fish in the Big XII and given how the league is
overrated year after year, they would have had a pretty easy path to a title shot. Now
they're trying to save a sinking ship.

Like I said, I feel worst for Mizzou and Kansas. Iowa State, Baylor and Kansas State
probably don't merit being with the big boys, but the Tigers and Jayhawks are going to be
left in the cold when this is all said and done. And Okie State and Texas Tech had better
grab on to the Sooners' and Longhorns' legs tighter than Jeff Van Gundy during a
Knicks-Heat melee.

As you said, it will be entertaining to watch. Texas could still get a pretty sweet deal
with Big Ten or Pac 12 money (but have to give up their network). The Pac 12 especially
would probably give them anything they wanted as it would get the league a much better
national profile for TV contract time. The Big Ten can (and should) be more choosy and
might prefer to wait and see if Oklahoma goes the SEC's way or if the SEC poaches someone
from the ACC, leading to their merge with the Big East (which could leave Notre Dame out
in the cold).

Get your popcorn ready, eh?
GO CATS!!!
-SjT
 
* * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *
STEPHEN J. TRUOG
sjtruog at yahoo.com
GO CATS!!! GEAUX SAINTS!!!
Super Bowl XLIV Champions!
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From sjtruog at yahoo.com  Sun Sep  4 11:17:27 2011
From: sjtruog at yahoo.com (SjT (Stephen J. Truog))
Date: Sun, 4 Sep 2011 09:17:27 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [NU Sports] Happy thought of the morning ...
Message-ID: <1315153047.8389.YahooMailNeo@web121704.mail.ne1.yahoo.com>

Freshly updated records from the Fitzgerald era ...

* Notre Dame: 34-30
* Northwestern: 35-29
* Michigan: 36-28

GO CATS!!!:)
-SjT
?
* * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *
STEPHEN J. TRUOG
sjtruog at yahoo.com
GO CATS!!! GEAUX SAINTS!!!
Super Bowl XLIV Champions!
________________________________

From alan.abrahamson at gmail.com  Sun Sep  4 11:18:56 2011
From: alan.abrahamson at gmail.com (Alan Abrahamson)
Date: Mon, 5 Sep 2011 01:18:56 +0900
Subject: [NU Sports] Happy thought of the morning ...
In-Reply-To: <1315153047.8389.YahooMailNeo@web121704.mail.ne1.yahoo.com>
References: <1315153047.8389.YahooMailNeo@web121704.mail.ne1.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <8548120747785086208@unknownmsgid>

That is excellent.

Sent from my iPhone

On Sep 5, 2011, at 1:17 AM, "SjT \(Stephen J. Truog\)"
<sjtruog at yahoo.com> wrote:

> Freshly updated records from the Fitzgerald era ...
>
> * Notre Dame: 34-30
> * Northwestern: 35-29
> * Michigan: 36-28
>
> GO CATS!!!:)
> -SjT
>
> * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *
> STEPHEN J. TRUOG
> sjtruog at yahoo.com
> GO CATS!!! GEAUX SAINTS!!!
> Super Bowl XLIV Champions!
> ________________________________
> _______________________________________________
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From hakirsch at aol.com  Sun Sep  4 11:51:33 2011
From: hakirsch at aol.com (hakirsch at aol.com)
Date: Sun, 4 Sep 2011 16:51:33 +0000
Subject: [NU Sports] Happy thought of the morning ...
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Sorry to see ND doing as well as the record shown
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Subject: [NU Sports] Happy thought of the morning ...

Freshly updated records from the Fitzgerald era ...

* Notre Dame: 34-30
* Northwestern: 35-29
* Michigan: 36-28

GO CATS!!!:)
-SjT
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From artmiller1 at gmail.com  Sun Sep  4 12:00:03 2011
From: artmiller1 at gmail.com (artmiller1 at gmail.com)
Date: Sun, 4 Sep 2011 17:00:03 +0000
Subject: [NU Sports] More on OU
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So what do you guys think, should the Big Ten re-evaluate Missouri?  Personally, I'd prefer to see MU and Kansas in the conference than whatever current Big East teams we might be considering.  (OK, maybe Pitt.)

Mark, do you think BTN could ever move to a direct subscription model (like HBO) instead of being lumped in a sports package?

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Date: Sat, 3 Sep 2011 22:09:53 
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Subject: Re: [NU Sports] More on OU

Okie State doesn't have to worry too much because whatever OU decides to do,
that's what OSU will be doing - it's always been and will be a package, and
both of them are ok with that.

Kansas, K-State, Mizzou and Iowa State had accepted bids to the Big East
(which didn't plan on changing its name in accordance with major conference
custom) but that went away when the Big XII decided to stay together.  The
Big East commissioner has been unusally reticent during this recent bout of
speculations and rumors.  Should the SEC expand beyond TAMU and one from the
east, then all bets may be off as the ACC may find itself plundered and try
to, what for it, merge with the Big East in some fashion.

Conference realignment is so much fun.
Mark

On Sat, Sep 3, 2011 at 9:52 PM, SjT (Stephen J. Truog) <sjtruog at yahoo.com>wrote:

> I agree - Texas really brought this on itself with the way it stacked the
> deck on the penalty payments and then announced its own network (which still
> isn't available in most of Texas apparently).
>
> I kind of liked the Horns' absolute rejection of the SEC overtures again
> and again during last year's conference shuffle (that says something good
> about 'em!), preferring instead to flirt with the Pac 12 and Big Ten ... but
> this hubris seems a bit much, even in a state where hubris runs big. I mean,
> at least Notre Dame's won a ton of national titles and Heismans ... Texas
> seems to win a title once every 35 years or so and their Heisman case is a
> lot less full than the one in Columbus.
>
> I think Texas overreached here -- they're not Notre Dame, and some of their
> league schools at least had other options. Nebraska and Colorado look smart
> for bolting, as does ATM - the Horns probably should have tried to support
> their league instead of getting greedy. They still would have been the Big
> Fish in the Big XII and given how the league is overrated year after year,
> they would have had a pretty easy path to a title shot. Now they're trying
> to save a sinking ship.
>
> Like I said, I feel worst for Mizzou and Kansas. Iowa State, Baylor and
> Kansas State probably don't merit being with the big boys, but the Tigers
> and Jayhawks are going to be left in the cold when this is all said and
> done. And Okie State and Texas Tech had better grab on to the Sooners' and
> Longhorns' legs tighter than Jeff Van Gundy during a Knicks-Heat melee.
>
> As you said, it will be entertaining to watch. Texas could still get a
> pretty sweet deal with Big Ten or Pac 12 money (but have to give up their
> network). The Pac 12 especially would probably give them anything they
> wanted as it would get the league a much better national profile for TV
> contract time. The Big Ten can (and should) be more choosy and might prefer
> to wait and see if Oklahoma goes the SEC's way or if the SEC poaches someone
> from the ACC, leading to their merge with the Big East (which could leave
> Notre Dame out in the cold).
>
> Get your popcorn ready, eh?
> GO CATS!!!
> -SjT
>
> * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *
> STEPHEN J. TRUOG
> sjtruog at yahoo.com
> GO CATS!!! GEAUX SAINTS!!!
> Super Bowl XLIV Champions!
> ------------------------------
>
>


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From scottzel at gmail.com  Sun Sep  4 12:16:23 2011
From: scottzel at gmail.com (Scott Zeller, M.D.)
Date: Sun, 4 Sep 2011 10:16:23 -0700
Subject: [NU Sports] More on OU
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"Mark, do you think BTN could ever move to a direct subscription model (like
HBO) instead of being lumped in a sports package?"

Be careful what you wish for. Right now our cable package includes the
"sports add-on" for an additional $5 per month, which includes the BT
network and the NFL network (which I watch) and some channels I could care
less about -- but it basically comes to 2.50 per for the ones I want, which
is OK. I would guess, like most things in the world, if you wanted these a
la carte, they would each be $7.95 plus tax.

From rstetson at capps-assoc.com  Sun Sep  4 13:07:32 2011
From: rstetson at capps-assoc.com (Roy S. Lamberton)
Date: Sun, 4 Sep 2011 14:07:32 -0400
Subject: [NU Sports] More on OU
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FWIW - the BTN is a subscription service outside of the Big 10 States. 

In Delaware, the entire package is part of a College/NFL/Other Sports package that Comcast
sells for 9.95 per month. It is worth it since they have all sorts of other shows on the
tier, however, we had to bombard Comcast for quite a while to get it put on that upper
sports tier a few years ago.

I personally don't see BTN going the way of the national movie services, but I can see
where eventually more and more sports events will be on internet PPV, similar to ESPN
Gameplan or CSTV's system.

Away from college, the Little League has flirted with using internet feeds. Two years ago,
I was involved in a webcast effort of the 14-16 Little League Softball World Series. We
grossed over $3,000 without any marketing, and just aimed a camera at the field in most
cases. There is a fairly successful outfit in South Bend that webcasts pay per view games
all over Indiana.

This year American Legion Baseball used ESPN3 to webcast their entire series and only the
lack of equipment and air talent keeps them from adding all 8 regional tournaments.

IMHO, the favored business model is still advertiser supported, but this year we were able
to watch several NU Lacrosse Games on the internet without commercials. Single camera
feeds get boring, but if it is all that you can get....

rsl

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-----Original Message-----
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artmiller1 at gmail.com
Sent: Sunday, September 04, 2011 1:00 PM
To: Sportsbiz; nwu-sports-bounces at tssi.com; SjT (Stephen J. Truog)
Cc: nwu-sports at tssi.com
Subject: Re: [NU Sports] More on OU

So what do you guys think, should the Big Ten re-evaluate Missouri?  Personally, I'd
prefer to see MU and Kansas in the conference than whatever current Big East teams we
might be considering.  (OK, maybe Pitt.)

Mark, do you think BTN could ever move to a direct subscription model (like HBO) instead
of being lumped in a sports package?

Sent via BlackBerry from T-Mobile

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Date: Sat, 3 Sep 2011 22:09:53 
To: SjT (Stephen J. Truog)<sjtruog at yahoo.com>
Cc: nwu-sports at tssi.com<nwu-sports at tssi.com>
Subject: Re: [NU Sports] More on OU

Okie State doesn't have to worry too much because whatever OU decides to do,
that's what OSU will be doing - it's always been and will be a package, and
both of them are ok with that.

Kansas, K-State, Mizzou and Iowa State had accepted bids to the Big East
(which didn't plan on changing its name in accordance with major conference
custom) but that went away when the Big XII decided to stay together.  The
Big East commissioner has been unusally reticent during this recent bout of
speculations and rumors.  Should the SEC expand beyond TAMU and one from the
east, then all bets may be off as the ACC may find itself plundered and try
to, what for it, merge with the Big East in some fashion.

Conference realignment is so much fun.
Mark

On Sat, Sep 3, 2011 at 9:52 PM, SjT (Stephen J. Truog) <sjtruog at yahoo.com>wrote:

> I agree - Texas really brought this on itself with the way it stacked the
> deck on the penalty payments and then announced its own network (which still
> isn't available in most of Texas apparently).
>
> I kind of liked the Horns' absolute rejection of the SEC overtures again
> and again during last year's conference shuffle (that says something good
> about 'em!), preferring instead to flirt with the Pac 12 and Big Ten ... but
> this hubris seems a bit much, even in a state where hubris runs big. I mean,
> at least Notre Dame's won a ton of national titles and Heismans ... Texas
> seems to win a title once every 35 years or so and their Heisman case is a
> lot less full than the one in Columbus.
>
> I think Texas overreached here -- they're not Notre Dame, and some of their
> league schools at least had other options. Nebraska and Colorado look smart
> for bolting, as does ATM - the Horns probably should have tried to support
> their league instead of getting greedy. They still would have been the Big
> Fish in the Big XII and given how the league is overrated year after year,
> they would have had a pretty easy path to a title shot. Now they're trying
> to save a sinking ship.
>
> Like I said, I feel worst for Mizzou and Kansas. Iowa State, Baylor and
> Kansas State probably don't merit being with the big boys, but the Tigers
> and Jayhawks are going to be left in the cold when this is all said and
> done. And Okie State and Texas Tech had better grab on to the Sooners' and
> Longhorns' legs tighter than Jeff Van Gundy during a Knicks-Heat melee.
>
> As you said, it will be entertaining to watch. Texas could still get a
> pretty sweet deal with Big Ten or Pac 12 money (but have to give up their
> network). The Pac 12 especially would probably give them anything they
> wanted as it would get the league a much better national profile for TV
> contract time. The Big Ten can (and should) be more choosy and might prefer
> to wait and see if Oklahoma goes the SEC's way or if the SEC poaches someone
> from the ACC, leading to their merge with the Big East (which could leave
> Notre Dame out in the cold).
>
> Get your popcorn ready, eh?
> GO CATS!!!
> -SjT
>
> * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *
> STEPHEN J. TRUOG
> sjtruog at yahoo.com
> GO CATS!!! GEAUX SAINTS!!!
> Super Bowl XLIV Champions!
> ------------------------------
>
>


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From sjtruog at yahoo.com  Mon Sep  5 13:30:06 2011
From: sjtruog at yahoo.com (SjT (Stephen J. Truog))
Date: Mon, 5 Sep 2011 11:30:06 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [NU Sports] PIGSKIN PICKS - Week 2
Message-ID: <1315247406.70691.YahooMailNeo@web121705.mail.ne1.yahoo.com>

First week down! Great to see the Cats win one without Persa, but sure hope Dan gets back ASAP for the Big Ten slate.

Standings may be out as early as tonight, but few surprises (and few competitive games) in the first week ... week two should be a bit different with two BIG matchups in Big Ten country! Michigan and Notre Dame meet in the Lightning Bowl under the lights and that should be incredible ... and while it's not under the lights (why?????), Alabama's visit to Happy Valley should be a good yardstick for JoePa's team. Last year they got intimidated with a new QB and hostile crowd, but with the Tide coming to State College, they may be waiting to spring a surprise.

Some good national games as well, with the opening of SEC conference play (all the better to mask their weak non conference schedules by ... spreading those cupcakes out so people continue to buy into the league's mythical status) and some danger games for Georgia and Auburn at home ... plus an unofficial "Pac 12 vs. Big XII" challenge involving two overrated Big XII schools and two underrated Arizona schools. And a Pac 12 opener for the Utes in LA. So we'll wind up cutting the Arizona-Okie State game Thursday night (there happens to be a much more important game that night - GEAUX SAINTS!!!) and have the week 2 slate due by kickoff in Sun Devil Stadium on FRIDAY night.

NU PIGSKIN PICKS - WEEK 2

############################
Name:?

BIG TEN
=======
GAME 1: South Dakota State @ Illinois
WINNER:?

GAME 2: Virginia @ Indiana
WINNER:?

GAME 3: Iowa @ Iowa State
WINNER:?

GAME 4: Notre Dame @ Michigan
WINNER:?

GAME 5: Florida Atlantic @ Michigan State
WINNER:?

GAME 6: New Mexico State @ Minnesota
WINNER:?

GAME 7: Fresno State @ Nebraska
WINNER:?

GAME 8: Toledo @ Ohio State
WINNER:?

GAME 9: Alabama @ Penn State
WINNER:?

GAME 10: Purdue @ Rice
WINNER:?

GAME 11: Oregon State @ Wisconsin
WINNER:?

NATIONAL
========
GAME 12: Missouri @ Arizona State

WINNER:?

GAME 13: Mississippi State @ Auburn
WINNER:?

GAME 14: South Carolina @ Georgia
WINNER:?

GAME 15: Utah @ Southern California
WINNER:?

MY PICKS
========
GAME 1: ILLINOIS ... Zookers continue to pad the stats against creampuffs
GAME 2: INDIANA ... Wilson can't lose two in a row, can he? Indiana needs this one big time
GAME 3: IOWA ... If they beat their pesky rival, schedule is set up for a big run
GAME 4: MICHIGAN ... UM's defense looked better, ND's looked a lot better, but UM still has Robinson
GAME 5: MSU ... Sparty was sluggish in opener, but should win again with FAU
GAME 6: MINNESOTA ... Gophers impressive in LA, now should coast at home
GAME 7: NEBRASKA ... Fresno won't be afraid of Lincoln, but they won't win either
GAME 8: OHIO STATE ... Could be another shutout heading to Miami for the "Ineligi-bowl" - love that term, ESPN!
GAME 9: ALABAMA ... This one will be close and I hope PSU wins, but they made the mistake of not making it a night game for the White Out!
GAME 10: PURDUE ... Another close call for Boilers, but they get Rice in between big Texas and Baylor games
GAME 11: WISCONSIN ... This one looked a lot more interesting before the Beavers got smacked down by Sac State last week - 70-0?
GAME 12: ARIZONA STATE ... Mizzou (and the whole Big XII) are overrated and the Devils are waiting for a big win to announce their arrival
GAME 13: MISSISSIPPI STATE ... Tigers got lucky last week, but won't escape twice - should have saved some $$ from last year's QB payoff
GAME 14: SOUTH CAROLINA ... It'll be close, but Dawgs are disheartened and Gamecocks were on fire scoring last week
GAME 15: UTAH ... SC exposed, plus this is Utah's toughest road game (maybe @ Arizona) and obstacle to hosting Pac 12 title game

And off the board ...

* NORTHWESTERN 34, Eastern Illinois 24 ... It won't be easy (never seems to be with NU), but the Cats have confidence now that they can win with or without Persa and both the O and D showed an aggressive streak in the second half (well, before shutting down in prevent at the end ... grrrr!) that actually saw them BUILD on a lead for the first time in a long time. Cats win the home opener.

Picks due by Friday!
GO CATS!!!
-SjT
?
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STEPHEN J. TRUOG
sjtruog at yahoo.com
GO CATS!!! GEAUX SAINTS!!!
Super Bowl XLIV Champions!
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From Willie.Weinbaum at espn.com  Mon Sep  5 21:07:59 2011
From: Willie.Weinbaum at espn.com (Weinbaum, Willie)
Date: Mon, 5 Sep 2011 22:07:59 -0400
Subject: [NU Sports] FW: ESPN video segment on college football offseason
	madness
Message-ID: <1F89BB2CE7A5B94D969618E8CC769CC374599812@XCHGBRS4.corp.espn.pvt>

http://frontrow.espn.go.com/2011/09/making-sense-of-college-football/


From jleonard518 at yahoo.com  Mon Sep  5 21:28:03 2011
From: jleonard518 at yahoo.com (Jim Leonard)
Date: Mon, 5 Sep 2011 19:28:03 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [NU Sports] Expansion
Message-ID: <1315276083.15992.YahooMailNeo@web36808.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

I personally hope the college football world avoids four 16-team conferences. I don't see how it will be good in the long run. 16 teams doesn't feel like much of a conference. You're play 7 teams in your division and at most 2 from the other division.?I think NU would have a hard time competing though that's not the primary reason I'm against it.?

My gut tells me that the following will happen, but I don't like it.?

A) The super conferences are formed.
B) They eventually break away from the NCAA.
C) They start paying athletes.?

That being said, I know that the Big Ten still still going after Notre Dame and some eastern schools (Rutgers and/or Maryland), so we'll see what happens.

Jim

From nolan at tssi.com  Mon Sep  5 21:48:42 2011
From: nolan at tssi.com (Mike Nolan)
Date: Mon, 5 Sep 2011 21:48:42 -0500 (CDT)
Subject: [NU Sports] Pera day-to-day, DiNardo out
Message-ID: <20110906024842.AB032646D0@romaine.tssi.com>

Per ESPN, Persa is listed as day-to-day, so we may not know until 
Friday or Saturday if he can play, much less start.

DL Jack DiNardo is out due to a leg injury.

Fitz declined to comment further on injuries.
--
Mike Nolan


From sportsbiz at gmail.com  Mon Sep  5 23:54:15 2011
From: sportsbiz at gmail.com (Mark Ament)
Date: Tue, 6 Sep 2011 00:54:15 -0400
Subject: [NU Sports] More on OU
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Anything is possible down the road but I think the BTN is pretty satisfied with the subscriber fee/advertiser model that they currently have.  As ESPN has shown, it can be incredibly lucrative and, at least in the current marketplace, more lucrative than direct subscription.  Remember, HBO doesn't show commercials so there is only one revenue stream.

I'm not a huge fan of Mizzou, although they would bring in Kansas City. Assuming Texas goes to the Pac -16 and Delaney gets off his 12 is the best number for us horse, you could of course pick up both KU and Mizzou and two of Pitt, Syracuse and Rutgers.  As someone who closely follows the Big East (Louisville, for those who may not know), i think i can speak for most Big East fans in saying forget ND, they're not worth the trouble.  
Mark

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On Sep 4, 2011, at 1:00 PM, artmiller1 at gmail.com wrote:

> So what do you guys think, should the Big Ten re-evaluate Missouri?  Personally, I'd prefer to see MU and Kansas in the conference than whatever current Big East teams we might be considering.  (OK, maybe Pitt.)
> 
> Mark, do you think BTN could ever move to a direct subscription model (like HBO) instead of being lumped in a sports package?
> 
> Sent via BlackBerry from T-Mobile
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Sportsbiz <sportsbiz at gmail.com>
> Sender: nwu-sports-bounces at tssi.com
> Date: Sat, 3 Sep 2011 22:09:53 
> To: SjT (Stephen J. Truog)<sjtruog at yahoo.com>
> Cc: nwu-sports at tssi.com<nwu-sports at tssi.com>
> Subject: Re: [NU Sports] More on OU
> 
> Okie State doesn't have to worry too much because whatever OU decides to do,
> that's what OSU will be doing - it's always been and will be a package, and
> both of them are ok with that.
> 
> Kansas, K-State, Mizzou and Iowa State had accepted bids to the Big East
> (which didn't plan on changing its name in accordance with major conference
> custom) but that went away when the Big XII decided to stay together.  The
> Big East commissioner has been unusally reticent during this recent bout of
> speculations and rumors.  Should the SEC expand beyond TAMU and one from the
> east, then all bets may be off as the ACC may find itself plundered and try
> to, what for it, merge with the Big East in some fashion.
> 
> Conference realignment is so much fun.
> Mark
> 
> On Sat, Sep 3, 2011 at 9:52 PM, SjT (Stephen J. Truog) <sjtruog at yahoo.com>wrote:
> 
>> I agree - Texas really brought this on itself with the way it stacked the
>> deck on the penalty payments and then announced its own network (which still
>> isn't available in most of Texas apparently).
>> 
>> I kind of liked the Horns' absolute rejection of the SEC overtures again
>> and again during last year's conference shuffle (that says something good
>> about 'em!), preferring instead to flirt with the Pac 12 and Big Ten ... but
>> this hubris seems a bit much, even in a state where hubris runs big. I mean,
>> at least Notre Dame's won a ton of national titles and Heismans ... Texas
>> seems to win a title once every 35 years or so and their Heisman case is a
>> lot less full than the one in Columbus.
>> 
>> I think Texas overreached here -- they're not Notre Dame, and some of their
>> league schools at least had other options. Nebraska and Colorado look smart
>> for bolting, as does ATM - the Horns probably should have tried to support
>> their league instead of getting greedy. They still would have been the Big
>> Fish in the Big XII and given how the league is overrated year after year,
>> they would have had a pretty easy path to a title shot. Now they're trying
>> to save a sinking ship.
>> 
>> Like I said, I feel worst for Mizzou and Kansas. Iowa State, Baylor and
>> Kansas State probably don't merit being with the big boys, but the Tigers
>> and Jayhawks are going to be left in the cold when this is all said and
>> done. And Okie State and Texas Tech had better grab on to the Sooners' and
>> Longhorns' legs tighter than Jeff Van Gundy during a Knicks-Heat melee.
>> 
>> As you said, it will be entertaining to watch. Texas could still get a
>> pretty sweet deal with Big Ten or Pac 12 money (but have to give up their
>> network). The Pac 12 especially would probably give them anything they
>> wanted as it would get the league a much better national profile for TV
>> contract time. The Big Ten can (and should) be more choosy and might prefer
>> to wait and see if Oklahoma goes the SEC's way or if the SEC poaches someone
>> from the ACC, leading to their merge with the Big East (which could leave
>> Notre Dame out in the cold).
>> 
>> Get your popcorn ready, eh?
>> GO CATS!!!
>> -SjT
>> 
>> * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *
>> STEPHEN J. TRUOG
>> sjtruog at yahoo.com
>> GO CATS!!! GEAUX SAINTS!!!
>> Super Bowl XLIV Champions!
>> ------------------------------
>> 
>> 
> 
> 
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From nolan at tssi.com  Tue Sep  6 00:06:14 2011
From: nolan at tssi.com (Mike Nolan)
Date: Tue, 6 Sep 2011 00:06:14 -0500 (CDT)
Subject: [NU Sports] More on OU
In-Reply-To: <50B073E5-0291-4C7B-BDC5-7D7CC7A8C13F@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <20110906050614.CBBF064936@romaine.tssi.com>

> Anything is possible down the road but I think the BTN is pretty satisfied with the subscriber fee/advertiser model that they currently have.  As ESPN has shown, it can be incredibly lucrative and, at least in the current marketplace, more lucrative than direct subscription.  Remember, HBO doesn't show commercials so there is only one revenue stream.

The HBO channels here shows lots of commercials, for HBO and Cinemax, and 
for assorted PPV options.  No, it isn't for products like Coca-Cola (yet), 
but then they never used to show commercials at the movie theatre, either,
and now they're on many DVDs, and sometimes next to impossible to bypass!

I also suspect HBO has a not-insignificant 'product placement' revenue 
stream from its made-for-TV movies.

The 'ala carte' approach to cable or satellite pricing, which some of our 
Congresscritters may try to force upon us, will almost certainly increase 
our costs and cable company revenue.
--
Mike Nolan


From clzahn at mindspring.com  Tue Sep  6 09:35:40 2011
From: clzahn at mindspring.com (Clark Zahn)
Date: Tue, 6 Sep 2011 07:35:40 -0700 (GMT-07:00)
Subject: [NU Sports] More on OU
Message-ID: <20502715.1315319741710.JavaMail.root@elwamui-lapwing.atl.sa.earthlink.net>

> As someone who closely follows the Big East (Louisville, for those who may not know), i think i can speak for most Big East fans in saying forget ND, they're not worth the trouble.  
>Mark

ND can get it's way in the Big East, but that wouldn't happen in the Big Ten.  They would have to join as an equal or not at all.

Clark Zahn




From nolan at tssi.com  Tue Sep  6 09:42:16 2011
From: nolan at tssi.com (Mike Nolan)
Date: Tue, 6 Sep 2011 09:42:16 -0500 (CDT)
Subject: [NU Sports] More on OU
In-Reply-To: <20502715.1315319741710.JavaMail.root@elwamui-lapwing.atl.sa.earthlink.net>
Message-ID: <20110906144216.315FC648E7@romaine.tssi.com>

It is worth noting that of the major conferences, only the Big XII
and the Big East went undefeated this past weekend.  

That probably says more about scheduling than strength, though.
--
Mike Nolan


From jlrs751 at aol.com  Tue Sep  6 07:48:44 2011
From: jlrs751 at aol.com (John Larson)
Date: Tue, 6 Sep 2011 08:48:44 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: [NU Sports] Replay ?
Message-ID: <8CE3AAA725102D0-2630-E1B2@Webmail-d107.sysops.aol.com>

Does anyone know if the NU / BC game will be replayed on T.V.?



From j-hodges at alumni.northwestern.edu  Tue Sep  6 09:46:25 2011
From: j-hodges at alumni.northwestern.edu (Jonathan Hodges)
Date: Tue, 6 Sep 2011 10:46:25 -0400
Subject: [NU Sports] Replay ?
In-Reply-To: <8CE3AAA725102D0-2630-E1B2@Webmail-d107.sysops.aol.com>
References: <8CE3AAA725102D0-2630-E1B2@Webmail-d107.sysops.aol.com>
Message-ID: <CAAxRJu69WX4+=Hv2Re3Z6dzT2MhNV2UK6YQ5kwMBP5tcfZL7KQ@mail.gmail.com>

Games are typically replayed on the Big Ten Network at various times during
the week following the game; I don't see the NU/BC game on the schedule for
the remainder of this week; it must have already been on.  But, if your
internet provider participates in ESPN3.com, the game is available there for
replay from your computer.

Jonathan

On Tue, Sep 6, 2011 at 8:48 AM, John Larson <jlrs751 at aol.com> wrote:

> Does anyone know if the NU / BC game will be replayed on T.V.?
>
>
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From sportsbiz at gmail.com  Tue Sep  6 09:49:14 2011
From: sportsbiz at gmail.com (Sportsbiz)
Date: Tue, 6 Sep 2011 10:49:14 -0400
Subject: [NU Sports] More on OU
In-Reply-To: <20110906144216.315FC648E7@romaine.tssi.com>
References: <20502715.1315319741710.JavaMail.root@elwamui-lapwing.atl.sa.earthlink.net>
 <20110906144216.315FC648E7@romaine.tssi.com>
Message-ID: <CAPCH0EMpJWkwAbSGXSiuX6Qw1Amx_bdPNi180H8qBqwVZGMg1w@mail.gmail.com>

ND's special deal is only in football.  They are just like everybody else in
every other sport; just more arrogant.

On Tue, Sep 6, 2011 at 10:42 AM, Mike Nolan <nolan at tssi.com> wrote:

> It is worth noting that of the major conferences, only the Big XII
> and the Big East went undefeated this past weekend.
>
> That probably says more about scheduling than strength, though.
> --
> Mike Nolan
>
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From nolan at tssi.com  Tue Sep  6 11:01:21 2011
From: nolan at tssi.com (Mike Nolan)
Date: Tue, 6 Sep 2011 11:01:21 -0500 (CDT)
Subject: [NU Sports] Replay ?
In-Reply-To: <CAAxRJu69WX4+=Hv2Re3Z6dzT2MhNV2UK6YQ5kwMBP5tcfZL7KQ@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <20110906160122.1E78F610E7@romaine.tssi.com>

> Games are typically replayed on the Big Ten Network at various times during
> the week following the game; I don't see the NU/BC game on the schedule for
> the remainder of this week; it must have already been on.  But, if your
> internet provider participates in ESPN3.com, the game is available there for
> replay from your computer.

The problem is the game was not on BTN, since it was a road game.  I 
don't know that BTN has the right to replay games they didn't have the 
right to show in the first place.

ESPNU might have a replay scheduled.  
--
Mike Nolan


From j-hodges at alumni.northwestern.edu  Tue Sep  6 11:06:54 2011
From: j-hodges at alumni.northwestern.edu (Jonathan Hodges)
Date: Tue, 6 Sep 2011 12:06:54 -0400
Subject: [NU Sports] Replay ?
In-Reply-To: <20110906160122.1E78F610E7@romaine.tssi.com>
References: <CAAxRJu69WX4+=Hv2Re3Z6dzT2MhNV2UK6YQ5kwMBP5tcfZL7KQ@mail.gmail.com>
 <20110906160122.1E78F610E7@romaine.tssi.com>
Message-ID: <CAAxRJu6eakZQUTCu3ZPkUd2jBS2s5mfhPPvMaTs9XODoS5NUDg@mail.gmail.com>

I checked the ESPNU schedule for the rest of the week and the NU/BC replay
isn't on there (although the Utah St/Auburn game is on multiple times).  I
believe you may be correct on the BTN not having rights to the road games;
although, for any Big Ten home games not on BTN (i.e. on one of the ESPNs)
they do retain replay rights (they have replayed the Wisconsin/UNLV game
that was on ESPN).

Jonathan

On Tue, Sep 6, 2011 at 12:01 PM, Mike Nolan <nolan at tssi.com> wrote:

> > Games are typically replayed on the Big Ten Network at various times
> during
> > the week following the game; I don't see the NU/BC game on the schedule
> for
> > the remainder of this week; it must have already been on.  But, if your
> > internet provider participates in ESPN3.com, the game is available there
> for
> > replay from your computer.
>
> The problem is the game was not on BTN, since it was a road game.  I
> don't know that BTN has the right to replay games they didn't have the
> right to show in the first place.
>
> ESPNU might have a replay scheduled.
> --
> Mike Nolan
>
>


-- 
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Contributor, HailToPurple
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Twitter: @hailtopurple
Email: j-hodges at alumni.northwestern.edu

From alan.abrahamson at gmail.com  Tue Sep  6 11:10:40 2011
From: alan.abrahamson at gmail.com (Alan Abrahamson)
Date: Tue, 6 Sep 2011 09:10:40 -0700
Subject: [NU Sports] Replay ?
In-Reply-To: <CAAxRJu6eakZQUTCu3ZPkUd2jBS2s5mfhPPvMaTs9XODoS5NUDg@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAAxRJu69WX4+=Hv2Re3Z6dzT2MhNV2UK6YQ5kwMBP5tcfZL7KQ@mail.gmail.com>
 <20110906160122.1E78F610E7@romaine.tssi.com>
 <CAAxRJu6eakZQUTCu3ZPkUd2jBS2s5mfhPPvMaTs9XODoS5NUDg@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CAN7senhkxuNBnQVLo88JM650m1yPnfHOO_+uo-1fYjOKTrr=fw@mail.gmail.com>

For what it's worth, you can see the highlights of the game -- 12 minutes
worth -- on Lake the Posts.

On Tue, Sep 6, 2011 at 9:06 AM, Jonathan Hodges <
j-hodges at alumni.northwestern.edu> wrote:

> I checked the ESPNU schedule for the rest of the week and the NU/BC replay
> isn't on there (although the Utah St/Auburn game is on multiple times).  I
> believe you may be correct on the BTN not having rights to the road games;
> although, for any Big Ten home games not on BTN (i.e. on one of the ESPNs)
> they do retain replay rights (they have replayed the Wisconsin/UNLV game
> that was on ESPN).
>
> Jonathan
>
> On Tue, Sep 6, 2011 at 12:01 PM, Mike Nolan <nolan at tssi.com> wrote:
>
> > > Games are typically replayed on the Big Ten Network at various times
> > during
> > > the week following the game; I don't see the NU/BC game on the schedule
> > for
> > > the remainder of this week; it must have already been on.  But, if your
> > > internet provider participates in ESPN3.com, the game is available
> there
> > for
> > > replay from your computer.
> >
> > The problem is the game was not on BTN, since it was a road game.  I
> > don't know that BTN has the right to replay games they didn't have the
> > right to show in the first place.
> >
> > ESPNU might have a replay scheduled.
> > --
> > Mike Nolan
> >
> >
>
>
> --
> Jonathan W. Hodges
> Contributor, HailToPurple
> Web: http://www.hailtopurple.com/jhodges/
> Twitter: @hailtopurple
> Email: j-hodges at alumni.northwestern.edu
> _______________________________________________
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From j-hodges at alumni.northwestern.edu  Tue Sep  6 11:15:03 2011
From: j-hodges at alumni.northwestern.edu (Jonathan Hodges)
Date: Tue, 6 Sep 2011 12:15:03 -0400
Subject: [NU Sports] Replay ?
In-Reply-To: <CAN7senhkxuNBnQVLo88JM650m1yPnfHOO_+uo-1fYjOKTrr=fw@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAAxRJu69WX4+=Hv2Re3Z6dzT2MhNV2UK6YQ5kwMBP5tcfZL7KQ@mail.gmail.com>
 <20110906160122.1E78F610E7@romaine.tssi.com>
 <CAAxRJu6eakZQUTCu3ZPkUd2jBS2s5mfhPPvMaTs9XODoS5NUDg@mail.gmail.com>
 <CAN7senhkxuNBnQVLo88JM650m1yPnfHOO_+uo-1fYjOKTrr=fw@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CAAxRJu7W--wcqSYaUpnJ-gMpwVxqN2Y8LWc3RXGN_ZzMzda8zA@mail.gmail.com>

Here's the direct link to those highlights on YouTube (in 720p with WGN
Audio):

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GOGqFTl8E5s&feature=player_embedded

On Tue, Sep 6, 2011 at 12:10 PM, Alan Abrahamson
<alan.abrahamson at gmail.com>wrote:

> For what it's worth, you can see the highlights of the game -- 12 minutes
> worth -- on Lake the Posts.
>
> On Tue, Sep 6, 2011 at 9:06 AM, Jonathan Hodges <
> j-hodges at alumni.northwestern.edu> wrote:
>
>> I checked the ESPNU schedule for the rest of the week and the NU/BC replay
>> isn't on there (although the Utah St/Auburn game is on multiple times).  I
>> believe you may be correct on the BTN not having rights to the road games;
>> although, for any Big Ten home games not on BTN (i.e. on one of the ESPNs)
>> they do retain replay rights (they have replayed the Wisconsin/UNLV game
>> that was on ESPN).
>>
>> Jonathan
>>
>> On Tue, Sep 6, 2011 at 12:01 PM, Mike Nolan <nolan at tssi.com> wrote:
>>
>> > > Games are typically replayed on the Big Ten Network at various times
>> > during
>> > > the week following the game; I don't see the NU/BC game on the
>> schedule
>> > for
>> > > the remainder of this week; it must have already been on.  But, if
>> your
>> > > internet provider participates in ESPN3.com, the game is available
>> there
>> > for
>> > > replay from your computer.
>> >
>> > The problem is the game was not on BTN, since it was a road game.  I
>> > don't know that BTN has the right to replay games they didn't have the
>> > right to show in the first place.
>> >
>> > ESPNU might have a replay scheduled.
>> > --
>> > Mike Nolan
>> >
>> >
>>
>>
>> --
>> Jonathan W. Hodges
>> Contributor, HailToPurple
>> Web: http://www.hailtopurple.com/jhodges/
>> Twitter: @hailtopurple
>> Email: j-hodges at alumni.northwestern.edu
>> _______________________________________________
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>> nwu-sports at tssi.com
>> http://romaine.tssi.com/mailman/listinfo/nwu-sports
>>
>
>


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Twitter: @hailtopurple
Email: j-hodges at alumni.northwestern.edu

From rstetson at capps-assoc.com  Tue Sep  6 13:09:23 2011
From: rstetson at capps-assoc.com (Roy S. Lamberton)
Date: Tue, 6 Sep 2011 14:09:23 -0400
Subject: [NU Sports] Replay ?
In-Reply-To: <CAAxRJu6eakZQUTCu3ZPkUd2jBS2s5mfhPPvMaTs9XODoS5NUDg@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAAxRJu69WX4+=Hv2Re3Z6dzT2MhNV2UK6YQ5kwMBP5tcfZL7KQ@mail.gmail.com>
 <20110906160122.1E78F610E7@romaine.tssi.com>
 <CAAxRJu6eakZQUTCu3ZPkUd2jBS2s5mfhPPvMaTs9XODoS5NUDg@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <003b01cc6cc0$1ee24e10$5ca6ea30$@com>

It was on ESPNU but the feed was actually an ACC network deal. That probably explains why
the PBP and Color guys were such "homers" for BC.

Once NU started to really take over, the camera guys started showing the NU section. Up
until the half, you would not have guessed that there were even any NU fans there, altho
their long shots of the crowd showed a small patch of purple.

So... you might also check with the ACC site to see if they have something up there.

rsl

++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
Roy S. Lamberton - Senior Associate & Unix Guru.
Computer Applications & Support Associates
Coach Roy's Random Thoughts - http://coachroy.org
-------------------- Also ----------------------
"Commissioner" Delaware American Legion Baseball
Director Media Relations - Little League 
  Senior League Softball World Series
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Northwestern University - Speech 1974 - 
Chi Phi: Pi 1974, KD 1968
Publisher Emeritus: Purple Reign (Fox Sports)
================================================
Opinions expressed above are mine alone and are not
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------------------------------------------------
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-----Original Message-----
From: nwu-sports-bounces at tssi.com [mailto:nwu-sports-bounces at tssi.com] On Behalf Of
Jonathan Hodges
Sent: Tuesday, September 06, 2011 12:07 PM
To: Mike Nolan
Cc: John Larson; nwu-sports at tssi.com
Subject: Re: [NU Sports] Replay ?

I checked the ESPNU schedule for the rest of the week and the NU/BC replay
isn't on there (although the Utah St/Auburn game is on multiple times).  I
believe you may be correct on the BTN not having rights to the road games;
although, for any Big Ten home games not on BTN (i.e. on one of the ESPNs)
they do retain replay rights (they have replayed the Wisconsin/UNLV game
that was on ESPN).

Jonathan

On Tue, Sep 6, 2011 at 12:01 PM, Mike Nolan <nolan at tssi.com> wrote:

> > Games are typically replayed on the Big Ten Network at various times
> during
> > the week following the game; I don't see the NU/BC game on the schedule
> for
> > the remainder of this week; it must have already been on.  But, if your
> > internet provider participates in ESPN3.com, the game is available there
> for
> > replay from your computer.
>
> The problem is the game was not on BTN, since it was a road game.  I
> don't know that BTN has the right to replay games they didn't have the
> right to show in the first place.
>
> ESPNU might have a replay scheduled.
> --
> Mike Nolan
>
>


-- 
Jonathan W. Hodges
Contributor, HailToPurple
Web: http://www.hailtopurple.com/jhodges/
Twitter: @hailtopurple
Email: j-hodges at alumni.northwestern.edu
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From MHRJGScott at aol.com  Tue Sep  6 13:09:32 2011
From: MHRJGScott at aol.com (MHRJGScott at aol.com)
Date: Tue, 6 Sep 2011 14:09:32 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: [NU Sports] odds
Message-ID: <c9e8.4a7a7abe.3b97bbdb@aol.com>

Is there a line on the EI game, none listed in my paper.  I guess we  
really put the hurt on BC, they are in Orlando to play Central Florida and Momah  
the big WR is out for the season and the QB is alll banged  up.

From j-hodges at alumni.northwestern.edu  Tue Sep  6 13:52:40 2011
From: j-hodges at alumni.northwestern.edu (Jonathan Hodges)
Date: Tue, 6 Sep 2011 14:52:40 -0400
Subject: [NU Sports] odds
In-Reply-To: <c9e8.4a7a7abe.3b97bbdb@aol.com>
References: <c9e8.4a7a7abe.3b97bbdb@aol.com>
Message-ID: <CAAxRJu5F3ph4TH5fRkM2beS89Cf5r9HoqJp9TZePJBPAMO5pWQ@mail.gmail.com>

There are usually not lines for games against FCS (I-AA) teams out of Las
Vegas (although some offshore sportsbooks may put out lines especially for
the first game of the year); this is usually not done as there is far less
information available to make well informed lines for the FBS vs. FCS games
and things can get kind of crazy for the bookkeepers.

Do note that Jeff Sagarin's computer ranking/score margin predictor does
include FCS teams, and predicts NU to win by 28.92 points.  Another stat: NU
has won it's last 4 games against FCS opponents by an average score of 36-6.

Jonathan

On Tue, Sep 6, 2011 at 2:09 PM, <MHRJGScott at aol.com> wrote:

> Is there a line on the EI game, none listed in my paper.  I guess we
> really put the hurt on BC, they are in Orlando to play Central Florida and
> Momah
> the big WR is out for the season and the QB is alll banged  up.
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From rstetson at capps-assoc.com  Tue Sep  6 14:16:05 2011
From: rstetson at capps-assoc.com (Roy S. Lamberton)
Date: Tue, 6 Sep 2011 15:16:05 -0400
Subject: [NU Sports] odds
In-Reply-To: <c9e8.4a7a7abe.3b97bbdb@aol.com>
References: <c9e8.4a7a7abe.3b97bbdb@aol.com>
Message-ID: <004a01cc6cc9$6f4d8780$4de89680$@com>

Momah hurt his leg prior to the last series and was on the sideline most of the last 90
secs - he came in for one play, and fell down after a couple of steps, then left the
field. He was obviously hurt.

The BC trainers were huddled around their QB at the end of the game, he was essentially
squashed by Browne on the last play.

I guess DiNardo was the biggest injury to us, altho Colter's day to day status is
worrisome.

rsl

++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
Roy S. Lamberton - Senior Associate & Unix Guru.
Computer Applications & Support Associates
Coach Roy's Random Thoughts - http://coachroy.org
-------------------- Also ----------------------
"Commissioner" Delaware American Legion Baseball
Director Media Relations - Little League 
  Senior League Softball World Series
CTR2 USN (67-70) - CTRCS USNR (Ret) (64-67/70-95)
Northwestern University - Speech 1974 - 
Chi Phi: Pi 1974, KD 1968
Publisher Emeritus: Purple Reign (Fox Sports)
================================================
Opinions expressed above are mine alone and are not
those of any organizations of which I am a member.
------------------------------------------------
"A true Democracy is two wolves and a lamb sitting
down to vote on what is for dinner."

"You have a republic, madam, if you can keep it"

==========  Go Cats -? Beat 'em All  ===========

I guess we  
really put the hurt on BC, they are in Orlando to play Central Florida and Momah  
the big WR is out for the season and the QB is alll banged  up.


From sportsbiz at gmail.com  Tue Sep  6 19:56:30 2011
From: sportsbiz at gmail.com (Sportsbiz)
Date: Tue, 6 Sep 2011 20:56:30 -0400
Subject: [NU Sports] Replay ?
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Similar to the SEC, the ACC network is actually just a contract with ESPN.
It calls for branding the ACC on ESPN, just like you see the SEC on ESPN.  I
agree that it may not show up too often on the BTN as a result, although
everyone's games on ESPN during the year get rebroadcast.  TV contracts are
very mysterious things these days.

On Tue, Sep 6, 2011 at 2:09 PM, Roy S. Lamberton
<rstetson at capps-assoc.com>wrote:

> It was on ESPNU but the feed was actually an ACC network deal. That
> probably explains why
> the PBP and Color guys were such "homers" for BC.
>
> Once NU started to really take over, the camera guys started showing the NU
> section. Up
> until the half, you would not have guessed that there were even any NU fans
> there, altho
> their long shots of the crowd showed a small patch of purple.
>
> So... you might also check with the ACC site to see if they have something
> up there.
>
> rsl
>
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> Director Media Relations - Little League
>  Senior League Softball World Series
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>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: nwu-sports-bounces at tssi.com [mailto:nwu-sports-bounces at tssi.com] On
> Behalf Of
> Jonathan Hodges
> Sent: Tuesday, September 06, 2011 12:07 PM
> To: Mike Nolan
> Cc: John Larson; nwu-sports at tssi.com
> Subject: Re: [NU Sports] Replay ?
>
> I checked the ESPNU schedule for the rest of the week and the NU/BC replay
> isn't on there (although the Utah St/Auburn game is on multiple times).  I
> believe you may be correct on the BTN not having rights to the road games;
> although, for any Big Ten home games not on BTN (i.e. on one of the ESPNs)
> they do retain replay rights (they have replayed the Wisconsin/UNLV game
> that was on ESPN).
>
> Jonathan
>
> On Tue, Sep 6, 2011 at 12:01 PM, Mike Nolan <nolan at tssi.com> wrote:
>
> > > Games are typically replayed on the Big Ten Network at various times
> > during
> > > the week following the game; I don't see the NU/BC game on the schedule
> > for
> > > the remainder of this week; it must have already been on.  But, if your
> > > internet provider participates in ESPN3.com, the game is available
> there
> > for
> > > replay from your computer.
> >
> > The problem is the game was not on BTN, since it was a road game.  I
> > don't know that BTN has the right to replay games they didn't have the
> > right to show in the first place.
> >
> > ESPNU might have a replay scheduled.
> > --
> > Mike Nolan
> >
> >
>
>
> --
> Jonathan W. Hodges
> Contributor, HailToPurple
> Web: http://www.hailtopurple.com/jhodges/
> Twitter: @hailtopurple
> Email: j-hodges at alumni.northwestern.edu
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From clzahn at mindspring.com  Tue Sep  6 20:34:11 2011
From: clzahn at mindspring.com (Clark Zahn)
Date: Tue, 06 Sep 2011 18:34:11 -0700
Subject: [NU Sports] Replay ?
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The game was replayed yesterday and today on the New England Sports 
Network, NESN.  If you have the Directv or Dish sports package you could 
have watched it.  I don't know about Comcrap.

Clark Zahn

On 09/06/2011 05:56 PM, Sportsbiz wrote:
> Similar to the SEC, the ACC network is actually just a contract with ESPN.
> It calls for branding the ACC on ESPN, just like you see the SEC on ESPN.  I
> agree that it may not show up too often on the BTN as a result, although
> everyone's games on ESPN during the year get rebroadcast.  TV contracts are
> very mysterious things these days.
>
> On Tue, Sep 6, 2011 at 2:09 PM, Roy S. Lamberton
> <rstetson at capps-assoc.com>wrote:
>
>> It was on ESPNU but the feed was actually an ACC network deal. That
>> probably explains why
>> the PBP and Color guys were such "homers" for BC.
>>
>> Once NU started to really take over, the camera guys started showing the NU
>> section. Up
>> until the half, you would not have guessed that there were even any NU fans
>> there, altho
>> their long shots of the crowd showed a small patch of purple.
>>
>> So... you might also check with the ACC site to see if they have something
>> up there.
>>
>> rsl
>>
>> ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
>> Roy S. Lamberton - Senior Associate&  Unix Guru.
>> Computer Applications&  Support Associates
>> Coach Roy's Random Thoughts - http://coachroy.org
>> -------------------- Also ----------------------
>> "Commissioner" Delaware American Legion Baseball
>> Director Media Relations - Little League
>>   Senior League Softball World Series
>> CTR2 USN (67-70) - CTRCS USNR (Ret) (64-67/70-95)
>> Northwestern University - Speech 1974 -
>> Chi Phi: Pi 1974, KD 1968
>> Publisher Emeritus: Purple Reign (Fox Sports)
>> ================================================
>> Opinions expressed above are mine alone and are not
>> those of any organizations of which I am a member.
>> ------------------------------------------------
>> "A true Democracy is two wolves and a lamb sitting
>> down to vote on what is for dinner."
>>
>> "You have a republic, madam, if you can keep it"
>>
>> ==========  Go Cats -  Beat 'em All  ===========
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: nwu-sports-bounces at tssi.com [mailto:nwu-sports-bounces at tssi.com] On
>> Behalf Of
>> Jonathan Hodges
>> Sent: Tuesday, September 06, 2011 12:07 PM
>> To: Mike Nolan
>> Cc: John Larson; nwu-sports at tssi.com
>> Subject: Re: [NU Sports] Replay ?
>>
>> I checked the ESPNU schedule for the rest of the week and the NU/BC replay
>> isn't on there (although the Utah St/Auburn game is on multiple times).  I
>> believe you may be correct on the BTN not having rights to the road games;
>> although, for any Big Ten home games not on BTN (i.e. on one of the ESPNs)
>> they do retain replay rights (they have replayed the Wisconsin/UNLV game
>> that was on ESPN).
>>
>> Jonathan
>>
>> On Tue, Sep 6, 2011 at 12:01 PM, Mike Nolan<nolan at tssi.com>  wrote:
>>
>>>> Games are typically replayed on the Big Ten Network at various times
>>> during
>>>> the week following the game; I don't see the NU/BC game on the schedule
>>> for
>>>> the remainder of this week; it must have already been on.  But, if your
>>>> internet provider participates in ESPN3.com, the game is available
>> there
>>> for
>>>> replay from your computer.
>>> The problem is the game was not on BTN, since it was a road game.  I
>>> don't know that BTN has the right to replay games they didn't have the
>>> right to show in the first place.
>>>
>>> ESPNU might have a replay scheduled.
>>> --
>>> Mike Nolan
>>>
>>>
>>
>> --
>> Jonathan W. Hodges
>> Contributor, HailToPurple
>> Web: http://www.hailtopurple.com/jhodges/
>> Twitter: @hailtopurple
>> Email: j-hodges at alumni.northwestern.edu
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>
>


From craiggerson at yahoo.com  Wed Sep  7 09:22:31 2011
From: craiggerson at yahoo.com (Craig Gerson)
Date: Wed, 7 Sep 2011 07:22:31 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [NU Sports] Northwestern-Army Game Tickets
Message-ID: <1315405351.82023.YahooMailNeo@web112717.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>

???Does anyone have extra tickets to the Army game that they want to sell?? The game is not sold out, but I am trying to find seats in or near the NU allotment (section 6).? Please email me offlist at craiggerson at yahoo.com if you have tickets.? Thanks.

From nolan at tssi.com  Wed Sep  7 10:56:53 2011
From: nolan at tssi.com (Mike Nolan)
Date: Wed, 7 Sep 2011 10:56:53 -0500 (CDT)
Subject: [NU Sports] Baylor becomes a roadblock for A&M
Message-ID: <20110907155654.026F56494B@romaine.tssi.com>

Baylor has become the roadblock to Texax A&M's move to the SEC, a move
unanimously endorsed by the SEC yesterday, as long as there are no
legal threats emanating from the Big XII.

Now, the question is, was this just a stall tactic on the Big XII's
part or did Baylor act on its own?  And where would the SEC's 14th
team come from? 

Oklahoma may take OSU wherever it goes, Kansas and Kansas State have
hinted that they want to remain together, Iowa State will be in the
same position that Baylor and probably Texas Tech are, few good choices
will be available to them.  Mizzou may still have hopes of a move upward.  
--
Mike Nolan


From tkmaycock at yahoo.com  Wed Sep  7 13:04:08 2011
From: tkmaycock at yahoo.com (Tom Maycock)
Date: Wed, 7 Sep 2011 11:04:08 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [NU Sports] NU football and the march of technology
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The technological marvels of the 21st century have allowed me to enjoy NU football games at a distance in a variety of ways. Prior to this weekend, the most interesting was probably when I followed the last few minutes of that big double-OT win over Minny back in--2007 I think--by refreshing an ESPN web page on my old Blackberry while on a hike in the mountains of North Carolina. It was actually a fairly exciting way to keep track of the game, but was a far cry from being there, or hearing a live radio call.

For this weekend's game, we were going to be on the road early heading to a getaway in Michigan. Initially I thought this would be no problem, as we can usually get WGN radio coverage on the whole route. The Cubs-induced switch to ESPN 1000 for this game scuttled that, as reception faded below the noise threshold right about the time the pre-game show was ending.?

Fortunately, we were able to pull up wgnradio.com through an internet radio app on the (newer) Blackberry. And, aside from a couple of short drop-outs, we enjoyed the entire first half of Dave and Ted's call via the speaker on the cell phone while doing 80mph up the west coast of Michigan.?

Arrived at our destination at halftime, unpacked, plopped the cell phone on a table in the living room, and enjoyed the rest of the game, with much better sound quality than I can get from WGN over the air up there. Pretty cool stuff.?

As for the game, what a nice win that was. Colter performed as well as I expected, it sounds like our defense has a chance to be pretty good, and there were glimmers of hope for the running game. Now if we could just figure out how to stop those 3rd-and long situations.... (don't we say that every year?)?

Tom

From nolan at tssi.com  Wed Sep  7 13:59:15 2011
From: nolan at tssi.com (Mike Nolan)
Date: Wed, 7 Sep 2011 13:59:15 -0500 (CDT)
Subject: [NU Sports] NU football and the march of technology
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> As for the game, what a nice win that was. Colter performed as well as I 
> expected, it sounds like our defense has a chance to be pretty good, and 
> there were glimmers of hope for the running game. Now if we could just 
> figure out how to stop those 3rd-and long situations.... (don't we say 
> that every year?)

If they stop half of them, that's probably sufficient.  
--
Mike Nolan


From cdueltgen at alumni.northwestern.edu  Wed Sep  7 16:53:57 2011
From: cdueltgen at alumni.northwestern.edu (Cynthia Dueltgen)
Date: Wed, 7 Sep 2011 14:53:57 -0700
Subject: [NU Sports] NU football and the march of technology
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I had a similar experience this weekend being unable to watch the game
live. I used the tunein app on my iPhone to listen to WNUR in my car
(through the stereo's iPod connection) and as I wandered around the
fairgrounds I'd gone to with my parents. In California! It was genius.
I didn't miss a play except during coverage dropouts, which were not
as frequent as I expected considering how bad AT&T's coverage is here.

-Cynthia

On Wed, Sep 7, 2011 at 11:04 AM, Tom Maycock <tkmaycock at yahoo.com> wrote:
> The technological marvels of the 21st century have allowed me to enjoy NU football games at a distance in a variety of ways. Prior to this weekend, the most interesting was probably when I followed the last few minutes of that big double-OT win over Minny back in--2007 I think--by refreshing an ESPN web page on my old Blackberry while on a hike in the mountains of North Carolina. It was actually a fairly exciting way to keep track of the game, but was a far cry from being there, or hearing a live radio call.
>
> For this weekend's game, we were going to be on the road early heading to a getaway in Michigan. Initially I thought this would be no problem, as we can usually get WGN radio coverage on the whole route. The Cubs-induced switch to ESPN 1000 for this game scuttled that, as reception faded below the noise threshold right about the time the pre-game show was ending.
>
> Fortunately, we were able to pull up wgnradio.com through an internet radio app on the (newer) Blackberry. And, aside from a couple of short drop-outs, we enjoyed the entire first half of Dave and Ted's call via the speaker on the cell phone while doing 80mph up the west coast of Michigan.
>
> Arrived at our destination at halftime, unpacked, plopped the cell phone on a table in the living room, and enjoyed the rest of the game, with much better sound quality than I can get from WGN over the air up there. Pretty cool stuff.
>
> As for the game, what a nice win that was. Colter performed as well as I expected, it sounds like our defense has a chance to be pretty good, and there were glimmers of hope for the running game. Now if we could just figure out how to stop those 3rd-and long situations.... (don't we say that every year?)
>
> Tom
> _______________________________________________
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>


From pskinas at aol.com  Wed Sep  7 17:08:09 2011
From: pskinas at aol.com (pskinas)
Date: Wed,  7 Sep 2011 18:08:09 -0400
Subject: [NU Sports] NU football and the march of technology
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The world of technology is pretty amazing, and I'm very glad to hear about everyone's creative ways to utilize the technologies that are available.  Since you brought up TuneIn, an absolute incredible app, my company has just partnered with them to create a whole new directory of sports teams/organizations dedicated channels, from the pro/college level to the high school level.  In addition, we'll have specific channels for soccer, hockey, basketball, speedways, horse racing, etc.  If they can stream, they can have their own channel for about a dollar a day.  On the high school side, this will also be used as an educational tool, where they can stream not only their games, but seminars, assemblies, choral concerts, debates, graduations, etc.  On the college/pro side, they can use the rest of the non-live time as a promotional tool for their club, etc.  Each school/team has their logo included.  So if you are missing the 6th race at Arlington, or your kid's football game, if t
 he track or school is streaming it, you won't miss a thing.

The baseball team for which I work was the first team in the country to have its own channel, and we were overwhelmed at the number of people who listened our games via their smartphone platform.  TuneIn is far and away the industry leader, and we're very excited about our partnership.  I'll be quite busy reaching out to leagues, teams, schools, worldwide.

If you want more info on this, feel free to get in touch.  

Patrick






In a message dated 09/07/11 17:54:12 Eastern Daylight Time, cdueltgen at alumni.northwestern.edu writes:
I had a similar experience this weekend being unable to watch the game 
live. I used the tunein app on my iPhone to listen to WNUR in my car 
(through the stereo's iPod connection) and as I wandered around the 
fairgrounds I'd gone to with my parents. In California! It was genius. 
I didn't miss a play except during coverage dropouts, which were not 
as frequent as I expected considering how bad AT&T's coverage is here. 

-Cynthia 

On Wed, Sep 7, 2011 at 11:04 AM, Tom Maycock <tkmaycock at yahoo.com> wrote: 
> The technological marvels of the 21st century have allowed me to enjoy NU football games at a distance in a variety of ways. Prior to this weekend, the most interesting was probably when I followed the last few minutes of that big double-OT win over Minny back in--2007 I think--by refreshing an ESPN web page on my old Blackberry while on a hike in the mountains of North Carolina. It was actually a fairly exciting way to keep track of the game, but was a far cry from being there, or hearing a live radio call. 
> 
> For this weekend's game, we were going to be on the road early heading to a getaway in Michigan. Initially I thought this would be no problem, as we can usually get WGN radio coverage on the whole route. The Cubs-induced switch to ESPN 1000 for this game scuttled that, as reception faded below the noise threshold right about the time the pre-game show was ending. 
> 
> Fortunately, we were able to pull up wgnradio.com through an internet radio app on the (newer) Blackberry. And, aside from a couple of short drop-outs, we enjoyed the entire first half of Dave and Ted's call via the speaker on the cell phone while doing 80mph up the west coast of Michigan. 
> 
> Arrived at our destination at halftime, unpacked, plopped the cell phone on a table in the living room, and enjoyed the rest of the game, with much better sound quality than I can get from WGN over the air up there. Pretty cool stuff. 
> 
> As for the game, what a nice win that was. Colter performed as well as I expected, it sounds like our defense has a chance to be pretty good, and there were glimmers of hope for the running game. Now if we could just figure out how to stop those 3rd-and long situations.... (don't we say that every year?) 
> 
> Tom 
> _______________________________________________ 
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> nwu-sports at tssi.com 
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> 

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From mhrjgscott at aol.com  Wed Sep  7 18:04:48 2011
From: mhrjgscott at aol.com (Jgscott)
Date: Wed, 07 Sep 2011 19:04:48 -0400
Subject: [NU Sports] NU football and the march of technology
Message-ID: <nt1d75i79y1q5vignmrm02g2.1315436688314@email.android.com>

What's your url

Sent from my Samsung smartphone on AT&T

pskinas <pskinas at aol.com> wrote:

>The world of technology is pretty amazing, and I'm very glad to hear about everyone's creative ways to utilize the technologies that are available.  Since you brought up TuneIn, an absolute incredible app, my company has just partnered with them to create a whole new directory of sports teams/organizations dedicated channels, from the pro/college level to the high school level.  In addition, we'll have specific channels for soccer, hockey, basketball, speedways, horse racing, etc.  If they can stream, they can have their own channel for about a dollar a day.  On the high school side, this will also be used as an educational tool, where they can stream not only their games, but seminars, assemblies, choral concerts, debates, graduations, etc.  On the college/pro side, they can use the rest of the non-live time as a promotional tool for their club, etc.  Each school/team has their logo included.  So if you are missing the 6th race at Arlington, or your kid's football game, if t
> he track or school is streaming it, you won't miss a thing.
>
>The baseball team for which I work was the first team in the country to have its own channel, and we were overwhelmed at the number of people who listened our games via their smartphone platform.  TuneIn is far and away the industry leader, and we're very excited about our partnership.  I'll be quite busy reaching out to leagues, teams, schools, worldwide.
>
>If you want more info on this, feel free to get in touch.  
>
>Patrick
>
>
>
>
>
>
>In a message dated 09/07/11 17:54:12 Eastern Daylight Time, cdueltgen at alumni.northwestern.edu writes:
>I had a similar experience this weekend being unable to watch the game 
>live. I used the tunein app on my iPhone to listen to WNUR in my car 
>(through the stereo's iPod connection) and as I wandered around the 
>fairgrounds I'd gone to with my parents. In California! It was genius. 
>I didn't miss a play except during coverage dropouts, which were not 
>as frequent as I expected considering how bad AT&T's coverage is here. 
>
>-Cynthia 
>
>On Wed, Sep 7, 2011 at 11:04 AM, Tom Maycock <tkmaycock at yahoo.com> wrote: 
>> The technological marvels of the 21st century have allowed me to enjoy NU football games at a distance in a variety of ways. Prior to this weekend, the most interesting was probably when I followed the last few minutes of that big double-OT win over Minny back in--2007 I think--by refreshing an ESPN web page on my old Blackberry while on a hike in the mountains of North Carolina. It was actually a fairly exciting way to keep track of the game, but was a far cry from being there, or hearing a live radio call. 
>> 
>> For this weekend's game, we were going to be on the road early heading to a getaway in Michigan. Initially I thought this would be no problem, as we can usually get WGN radio coverage on the whole route. The Cubs-induced switch to ESPN 1000 for this game scuttled that, as reception faded below the noise threshold right about the time the pre-game show was ending. 
>> 
>> Fortunately, we were able to pull up wgnradio.com through an internet radio app on the (newer) Blackberry. And, aside from a couple of short drop-outs, we enjoyed the entire first half of Dave and Ted's call via the speaker on the cell phone while doing 80mph up the west coast of Michigan. 
>> 
>> Arrived at our destination at halftime, unpacked, plopped the cell phone on a table in the living room, and enjoyed the rest of the game, with much better sound quality than I can get from WGN over the air up there. Pretty cool stuff. 
>> 
>> As for the game, what a nice win that was. Colter performed as well as I expected, it sounds like our defense has a chance to be pretty good, and there were glimmers of hope for the running game. Now if we could just figure out how to stop those 3rd-and long situations.... (don't we say that every year?) 
>> 
>> Tom 
>> _______________________________________________ 
>> nwu-sports site list 
>> nwu-sports at tssi.com 
>> http://romaine.tssi.com/mailman/listinfo/nwu-sports 
>> 
>> 
>
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From juliepmcfarland at yahoo.com  Wed Sep  7 20:08:48 2011
From: juliepmcfarland at yahoo.com (juliepmcfarland)
Date: Wed, 7 Sep 2011 20:08:48 -0500
Subject: [NU Sports] NU football and the march of technology
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References: <5242374.1315100178132.JavaMail.root@wamui-bucket.atl.sa.earthlink.net>
 <1315418648.20583.YahooMailNeo@web161005.mail.bf1.yahoo.com>
 <CA+AhkE=B-72t2hjz39vdcD7PzDWL62pZfqMJV9N2n9YSH79wLA@mail.gmail.com>
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We downloaded the WGN app on our iPhones and listened to it that way. It was awesome!


On Sep 7, 2011, at 4:53 PM, Cynthia Dueltgen <cdueltgen at alumni.northwestern.edu> wrote:

> I had a similar experience this weekend being unable to watch the game
> live. I used the tunein app on my iPhone to listen to WNUR in my car
> (through the stereo's iPod connection) and as I wandered around the
> fairgrounds I'd gone to with my parents. In California! It was genius.
> I didn't miss a play except during coverage dropouts, which were not
> as frequent as I expected considering how bad AT&T's coverage is here.
> 
> -Cynthia
> 
> On Wed, Sep 7, 2011 at 11:04 AM, Tom Maycock <tkmaycock at yahoo.com> wrote:
>> The technological marvels of the 21st century have allowed me to enjoy NU football games at a distance in a variety of ways. Prior to this weekend, the most interesting was probably when I followed the last few minutes of that big double-OT win over Minny back in--2007 I think--by refreshing an ESPN web page on my old Blackberry while on a hike in the mountains of North Carolina. It was actually a fairly exciting way to keep track of the game, but was a far cry from being there, or hearing a live radio call.
>> 
>> For this weekend's game, we were going to be on the road early heading to a getaway in Michigan. Initially I thought this would be no problem, as we can usually get WGN radio coverage on the whole route. The Cubs-induced switch to ESPN 1000 for this game scuttled that, as reception faded below the noise threshold right about the time the pre-game show was ending.
>> 
>> Fortunately, we were able to pull up wgnradio.com through an internet radio app on the (newer) Blackberry. And, aside from a couple of short drop-outs, we enjoyed the entire first half of Dave and Ted's call via the speaker on the cell phone while doing 80mph up the west coast of Michigan.
>> 
>> Arrived at our destination at halftime, unpacked, plopped the cell phone on a table in the living room, and enjoyed the rest of the game, with much better sound quality than I can get from WGN over the air up there. Pretty cool stuff.
>> 
>> As for the game, what a nice win that was. Colter performed as well as I expected, it sounds like our defense has a chance to be pretty good, and there were glimmers of hope for the running game. Now if we could just figure out how to stop those 3rd-and long situations.... (don't we say that every year?)
>> 
>> Tom
>> _______________________________________________
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>> 
>> 
> 
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From rstetson at capps-assoc.com  Wed Sep  7 22:47:55 2011
From: rstetson at capps-assoc.com (Roy S. Lamberton)
Date: Wed, 7 Sep 2011 23:47:55 -0400
Subject: [NU Sports] NU football and the march of technology
In-Reply-To: <2A264C58-1D9B-4B61-A9D0-F5CB04BA6CE3@yahoo.com>
References: <5242374.1315100178132.JavaMail.root@wamui-bucket.atl.sa.earthlink.net>
 <1315418648.20583.YahooMailNeo@web161005.mail.bf1.yahoo.com>
 <CA+AhkE=B-72t2hjz39vdcD7PzDWL62pZfqMJV9N2n9YSH79wLA@mail.gmail.com>
 <2A264C58-1D9B-4B61-A9D0-F5CB04BA6CE3@yahoo.com>
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Hang on to your phones - there is a Big102Go app for iphone and droid, but Comcast won't
allow it in their area for some reason.

ESPN3 is available anywhere you can get it on your computer thru the browser on your
phone. And I works very well altho watching a 3x4" picture is nowhere near your 50" TV in
the basement.

I love the WGN app.

rsl

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-----Original Message-----
From: nwu-sports-bounces at tssi.com [mailto:nwu-sports-bounces at tssi.com] On Behalf Of
juliepmcfarland
Sent: Wednesday, September 07, 2011 9:09 PM
To: Cynthia Dueltgen
Cc: nwu-sports at tssi.com
Subject: Re: [NU Sports] NU football and the march of technology

We downloaded the WGN app on our iPhones and listened to it that way. It was awesome!


On Sep 7, 2011, at 4:53 PM, Cynthia Dueltgen <cdueltgen at alumni.northwestern.edu> wrote:

> I had a similar experience this weekend being unable to watch the game
> live. I used the tunein app on my iPhone to listen to WNUR in my car
> (through the stereo's iPod connection) and as I wandered around the
> fairgrounds I'd gone to with my parents. In California! It was genius.
> I didn't miss a play except during coverage dropouts, which were not
> as frequent as I expected considering how bad AT&T's coverage is here.
> 
> -Cynthia
> 
> On Wed, Sep 7, 2011 at 11:04 AM, Tom Maycock <tkmaycock at yahoo.com> wrote:
>> The technological marvels of the 21st century have allowed me to enjoy NU football
games at a distance in a variety of ways. Prior to this weekend, the most interesting was
probably when I followed the last few minutes of that big double-OT win over Minny back
in--2007 I think--by refreshing an ESPN web page on my old Blackberry while on a hike in
the mountains of North Carolina. It was actually a fairly exciting way to keep track of
the game, but was a far cry from being there, or hearing a live radio call.
>> 
>> For this weekend's game, we were going to be on the road early heading to a getaway in
Michigan. Initially I thought this would be no problem, as we can usually get WGN radio
coverage on the whole route. The Cubs-induced switch to ESPN 1000 for this game scuttled
that, as reception faded below the noise threshold right about the time the pre-game show
was ending.
>> 
>> Fortunately, we were able to pull up wgnradio.com through an internet radio app on the
(newer) Blackberry. And, aside from a couple of short drop-outs, we enjoyed the entire
first half of Dave and Ted's call via the speaker on the cell phone while doing 80mph up
the west coast of Michigan.
>> 
>> Arrived at our destination at halftime, unpacked, plopped the cell phone on a table in
the living room, and enjoyed the rest of the game, with much better sound quality than I
can get from WGN over the air up there. Pretty cool stuff.
>> 
>> As for the game, what a nice win that was. Colter performed as well as I expected, it
sounds like our defense has a chance to be pretty good, and there were glimmers of hope
for the running game. Now if we could just figure out how to stop those 3rd-and long
situations.... (don't we say that every year?)
>> 
>> Tom
>> _______________________________________________
>> nwu-sports site list
>> nwu-sports at tssi.com
>> http://romaine.tssi.com/mailman/listinfo/nwu-sports
>> 
>> 
> 
> _______________________________________________
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> nwu-sports at tssi.com
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From clzahn at mindspring.com  Thu Sep  8 07:06:12 2011
From: clzahn at mindspring.com (Clark Zahn)
Date: Thu, 8 Sep 2011 05:06:12 -0700 (GMT-07:00)
Subject: [NU Sports] Texas & ND to Big Ten?
Message-ID: <5774557.1315483573190.JavaMail.root@elwamui-karabash.atl.sa.earthlink.net>

Check out this post on the NU rivals forum.

http://northwestern.rivals.com/showmsg.asp?fid=57&tid=162506546&mid=162506546&sid=901&style=2




From MHRJGScott at aol.com  Thu Sep  8 09:12:54 2011
From: MHRJGScott at aol.com (MHRJGScott at aol.com)
Date: Thu, 8 Sep 2011 10:12:54 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: [NU Sports] NU football and the march of technology
Message-ID: <741ce.35544f11.3b9a2765@aol.com>

Being somewhat technology challenged, my Samsung infuse 4G is mostly a  
mystery to me, I am glad to report that the CATS!!! game in on BTNHD on 
Saturday  and the Bears are on FOX on Sunday. Go CATS!!!

From tkmaycock at yahoo.com  Thu Sep  8 09:28:07 2011
From: tkmaycock at yahoo.com (Tom Maycock)
Date: Thu, 8 Sep 2011 07:28:07 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [NU Sports] NU football and the march of technology
In-Reply-To: <741ce.35544f11.3b9a2765@aol.com>
References: <741ce.35544f11.3b9a2765@aol.com>
Message-ID: <1315492087.88351.YahooMailNeo@web161009.mail.bf1.yahoo.com>

>Being somewhat technology challenged, my Samsung infuse 4G is mostly a? 
>mystery to me, I am glad to report that the CATS!!! game in on BTNHD on 
>Saturday? and the Bears are on FOX on Sunday. Go CATS!!!


Given that I don't get ESPNU, I'm definitely happy this next game will be on BTN. Sadly, I'll be away again at a wedding, but can deploy the DVR-delayed-viewing technique for this one.?

As for your phone, if the need arises, try just going to "wgnradio.com" in your phone's browser. In my case, I was automatically prompted to download the appropriate (free) app, and then it was just a matter of firing up that app and selecting WGN. I'm guessing it will work that way on most smart phones.?

I think the most surprising aspect of using the internet-via-phone in the moving car was the lack of dropouts. I really thought it would be constantly dropping and re-acquiring the feed, but it was really robust. Of course, that comes at the price of the proliferation of all those hideous cell towers dotting the rural landscape.....

Tom



From j-hodges at alumni.northwestern.edu  Thu Sep  8 18:49:31 2011
From: j-hodges at alumni.northwestern.edu (Jonathan Hodges)
Date: Thu, 8 Sep 2011 19:49:31 -0400
Subject: [NU Sports] Texas & ND to Big Ten?
In-Reply-To: <5774557.1315483573190.JavaMail.root@elwamui-karabash.atl.sa.earthlink.net>
References: <5774557.1315483573190.JavaMail.root@elwamui-karabash.atl.sa.earthlink.net>
Message-ID: <CAAxRJu5kppcgL5PfFxL5gB6TsTV5KVASNRd2qLg75_1B8q_OgA@mail.gmail.com>

Pete Thamel from the NY Times had this to say on this issue:

There's a Texas-ND-Big Ten email/blog/conspiracy theory floating around. Its
not true. Not even close.

https://twitter.com/#!/PeteThamelNYT/status/111924291498541056

On Thu, Sep 8, 2011 at 8:06 AM, Clark Zahn <clzahn at mindspring.com> wrote:

> Check out this post on the NU rivals forum.
>
>
> http://northwestern.rivals.com/showmsg.asp?fid=57&tid=162506546&mid=162506546&sid=901&style=2
>
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> nwu-sports site list
> nwu-sports at tssi.com
> http://romaine.tssi.com/mailman/listinfo/nwu-sports
>
>


-- 
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Twitter: @hailtopurple
Email: j-hodges at alumni.northwestern.edu

From scottzel at gmail.com  Thu Sep  8 19:02:11 2011
From: scottzel at gmail.com (Scott Zeller, M.D.)
Date: Thu, 8 Sep 2011 17:02:11 -0700
Subject: [NU Sports] Texas & ND to Big Ten?
In-Reply-To: <CAAxRJu5kppcgL5PfFxL5gB6TsTV5KVASNRd2qLg75_1B8q_OgA@mail.gmail.com>
References: <5774557.1315483573190.JavaMail.root@elwamui-karabash.atl.sa.earthlink.net>
 <CAAxRJu5kppcgL5PfFxL5gB6TsTV5KVASNRd2qLg75_1B8q_OgA@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CAHChqvhDATXQLTWcscNfUmjdNgU15NuQX0fXZdTV-NQ7yeqRWw@mail.gmail.com>

Interesting that a little post on the Northwestern internet football chat
board would cause such national furor, and even consternation at the Gray
Lady. By the way, that little post from this morning already has over 52,000
views and 225 replies.

On Thu, Sep 8, 2011 at 4:49 PM, Jonathan Hodges <
j-hodges at alumni.northwestern.edu> wrote:

> Pete Thamel from the NY Times had this to say on this issue:
>
> There's a Texas-ND-Big Ten email/blog/conspiracy theory floating around.
> Its
> not true. Not even close.
>
> https://twitter.com/#!/PeteThamelNYT/status/111924291498541056
>
> On Thu, Sep 8, 2011 at 8:06 AM, Clark Zahn <clzahn at mindspring.com> wrote:
>
> > Check out this post on the NU rivals forum.
> >
> >
> >
> http://northwestern.rivals.com/showmsg.asp?fid=57&tid=162506546&mid=162506546&sid=901&style=2
> >
> >
> >
> > _______________________________________________
> > nwu-sports site list
> > nwu-sports at tssi.com
> > http://romaine.tssi.com/mailman/listinfo/nwu-sports
> >
> >
>
>
> --
> Jonathan W. Hodges
> Contributor, HailToPurple
> Web: http://www.hailtopurple.com/jhodges/
> Twitter: @hailtopurple
> Email: j-hodges at alumni.northwestern.edu
>  _______________________________________________
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> nwu-sports at tssi.com
> http://romaine.tssi.com/mailman/listinfo/nwu-sports
>

From mzilka at sbcglobal.net  Thu Sep  8 19:59:32 2011
From: mzilka at sbcglobal.net (Marilyn J Zilka)
Date: Thu, 8 Sep 2011 17:59:32 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [NU Sports] Wildcat Cookbook is now for sale!!
Message-ID: <1315529972.95217.YahooMailRC@web83504.mail.sp1.yahoo.com>


http://nusports.cstv.com/genrel/090711aab.html

All the proceeds go to the Wildcat fund

The cookbook makes a great gift!!

From jleonard518 at yahoo.com  Thu Sep  8 21:23:01 2011
From: jleonard518 at yahoo.com (Jim Leonard)
Date: Thu, 8 Sep 2011 19:23:01 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [NU Sports] Texas & ND to Big Ten?
In-Reply-To: <CAHChqvhDATXQLTWcscNfUmjdNgU15NuQX0fXZdTV-NQ7yeqRWw@mail.gmail.com>
References: <5774557.1315483573190.JavaMail.root@elwamui-karabash.atl.sa.earthlink.net>
 <CAAxRJu5kppcgL5PfFxL5gB6TsTV5KVASNRd2qLg75_1B8q_OgA@mail.gmail.com>
 <CAHChqvhDATXQLTWcscNfUmjdNgU15NuQX0fXZdTV-NQ7yeqRWw@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <1315534981.62776.YahooMailNeo@web36803.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

I have a friend who works for a sports consulting firm. He said that the Big Ten is actively pursuing Notre Dame but not Texas. This was a comment he made to me a few weeks ago. He seemed to think that the push to 16 (which I dislike strongly) would include Rutgers and Maryland or some other eastern footprint. The Horns and Aggies are not joining.

Go Cats!
Jim



________________________________
From: "Scott Zeller, M.D." <scottzel at gmail.com>
To: nulist <nwu-sports at tssi.com>
Sent: Thursday, September 8, 2011 7:02 PM
Subject: Re: [NU Sports] Texas & ND to Big Ten?

Interesting that a little post on the Northwestern internet football chat
board would cause such national furor, and even consternation at the Gray
Lady. By the way, that little post from this morning already has over 52,000
views and 225 replies.

On Thu, Sep 8, 2011 at 4:49 PM, Jonathan Hodges <
j-hodges at alumni.northwestern.edu> wrote:

> Pete Thamel from the NY Times had this to say on this issue:
>
> There's a Texas-ND-Big Ten email/blog/conspiracy theory floating around.
> Its
> not true. Not even close.
>
> https://twitter.com/#!/PeteThamelNYT/status/111924291498541056
>
> On Thu, Sep 8, 2011 at 8:06 AM, Clark Zahn <clzahn at mindspring.com> wrote:
>
> > Check out this post on the NU rivals forum.
> >
> >
> >
> http://northwestern.rivals.com/showmsg.asp?fid=57&tid=162506546&mid=162506546&sid=901&style=2
> >
> >
> >
> > _______________________________________________
> > nwu-sports site list
> > nwu-sports at tssi.com
> > http://romaine.tssi.com/mailman/listinfo/nwu-sports
> >
> >
>
>
> --
> Jonathan W. Hodges
> Contributor, HailToPurple
> Web: http://www.hailtopurple.com/jhodges/
> Twitter: @hailtopurple
> Email: j-hodges at alumni.northwestern.edu
>? _______________________________________________
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From sportsbiz at gmail.com  Fri Sep  9 09:28:05 2011
From: sportsbiz at gmail.com (Sportsbiz)
Date: Fri, 9 Sep 2011 10:28:05 -0400
Subject: [NU Sports] Texas & ND to Big Ten?
In-Reply-To: <1315534981.62776.YahooMailNeo@web36803.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
References: <5774557.1315483573190.JavaMail.root@elwamui-karabash.atl.sa.earthlink.net>
 <CAAxRJu5kppcgL5PfFxL5gB6TsTV5KVASNRd2qLg75_1B8q_OgA@mail.gmail.com>
 <CAHChqvhDATXQLTWcscNfUmjdNgU15NuQX0fXZdTV-NQ7yeqRWw@mail.gmail.com>
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Message-ID: <CAPCH0EOi3Hs=7VXrsHWto+o3P5Xef0_N3Hy=1kmcJ6fJC38dXA@mail.gmail.com>

There is serious chatter about the Big Ten talking to Maryland but there is
no indication that Maryland intends to leave the ACC.  Now, that is subject
to change if the SEC decides to raid the ACC for one or two school in the
event it decides to go to 14 or 16 -if 16, one more would presumably come
from the west, geographic balance is very important to the SEC.  If the ACC
looks vulnerable then Maryland may have more interest.  A vulnerable ACC
could lead to some sort of merger with the Big East, particularly if the Big
Ten decides to go to 16 and invites Rutgers, Pitt and/or Syracuse.  The Big
East is currently talking with the left out members of the soon to be
defunct Big 12 (Big Five?) or at least Kansas K-State and Mizzou, all of
whom were extended invites last year before the Big 12 decided to stay
together.  Taking those three in would take the league up to 20 for all
sports and 12 for football, which would seem to indicate that it wouldn't
need the ACC unless it too wants to get to 16.  If so, and given its
basketball focus, the 4 North Carolina schools would seem to me to be the
obvious picks for the Big East.

There has been discussions among the three commissioners but I don't know if
it has gone beyond that.  ESPN has reported that the Big East has invited
KU, K-State and Mizzou in the event of a break-up and would consider one or
both of the other two, but made no commitments to them.  Who knows how true
that is.

*Mark S. Ament*
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On Thu, Sep 8, 2011 at 10:23 PM, Jim Leonard <jleonard518 at yahoo.com> wrote:

> I have a friend who works for a sports consulting firm. He said that the
> Big Ten is actively pursuing Notre Dame but not Texas. This was a comment he
> made to me a few weeks ago. He seemed to think that the push to 16 (which I
> dislike strongly) would include Rutgers and Maryland or some other eastern
> footprint. The Horns and Aggies are not joining.
>
> Go Cats!
> Jim
>
>
>
> ________________________________
> From: "Scott Zeller, M.D." <scottzel at gmail.com>
> To: nulist <nwu-sports at tssi.com>
> Sent: Thursday, September 8, 2011 7:02 PM
> Subject: Re: [NU Sports] Texas & ND to Big Ten?
>
> Interesting that a little post on the Northwestern internet football chat
> board would cause such national furor, and even consternation at the Gray
> Lady. By the way, that little post from this morning already has over
> 52,000
> views and 225 replies.
>
> On Thu, Sep 8, 2011 at 4:49 PM, Jonathan Hodges <
> j-hodges at alumni.northwestern.edu> wrote:
>
> > Pete Thamel from the NY Times had this to say on this issue:
> >
> > There's a Texas-ND-Big Ten email/blog/conspiracy theory floating around.
> > Its
> > not true. Not even close.
> >
> > https://twitter.com/#!/PeteThamelNYT/status/111924291498541056
> >
> > On Thu, Sep 8, 2011 at 8:06 AM, Clark Zahn <clzahn at mindspring.com>
> wrote:
> >
> > > Check out this post on the NU rivals forum.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> http://northwestern.rivals.com/showmsg.asp?fid=57&tid=162506546&mid=162506546&sid=901&style=2
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > _______________________________________________
> > > nwu-sports site list
> > > nwu-sports at tssi.com
> > > http://romaine.tssi.com/mailman/listinfo/nwu-sports
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
> > --
> > Jonathan W. Hodges
> > Contributor, HailToPurple
> > Web: http://www.hailtopurple.com/jhodges/
> > Twitter: @hailtopurple
> > Email: j-hodges at alumni.northwestern.edu
> >  _______________________________________________
> > nwu-sports site list
> > nwu-sports at tssi.com
> > http://romaine.tssi.com/mailman/listinfo/nwu-sports
> >
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From tbng at comcast.net  Fri Sep  9 09:40:36 2011
From: tbng at comcast.net (Dennis W. Brandt)
Date: Fri, 9 Sep 2011 10:40:36 -0400
Subject: [NU Sports] Texas & ND to Big Ten?
References: <5774557.1315483573190.JavaMail.root@elwamui-karabash.atl.sa.earthlink.net>
 <CAAxRJu5kppcgL5PfFxL5gB6TsTV5KVASNRd2qLg75_1B8q_OgA@mail.gmail.com>
 <CAHChqvhDATXQLTWcscNfUmjdNgU15NuQX0fXZdTV-NQ7yeqRWw@mail.gmail.com>
 <1315534981.62776.YahooMailNeo@web36803.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
 <CAPCH0EOi3Hs=7VXrsHWto+o3P5Xef0_N3Hy=1kmcJ6fJC38dXA@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <087639ED52414215BB9FAE8BB4F4769B@dennismachine>

> There is serious chatter about the Big Ten talking to Maryland but there 
> is
> no indication that Maryland intends to leave the ACC.  Now, that is 
> subject
> to change if the SEC decides to raid the ACC for one or two school in the
> event it decides to go to 14 or 16 -if 16, one more would presumably come
> from the west, geographic balance is very important to the SEC.  If the 
> ACC
> looks vulnerable then Maryland may have more interest.  A vulnerable ACC
> could lead to some sort of merger with the Big East, particularly if the 
> Big
> Ten decides to go to 16 and invites Rutgers, Pitt and/or Syracuse.  The 
> Big
> East is currently talking with the left out members of the soon to be
> defunct Big 12 (Big Five?) or at least Kansas K-State and Mizzou, all of
> whom were extended invites last year before the Big 12 decided to stay
> together.  Taking those three in would take the league up to 20 for all
> sports and 12 for football, which would seem to indicate that it wouldn't
> need the ACC unless it too wants to get to 16.  If so, and given its
> basketball focus, the 4 North Carolina schools would seem to me to be the
> obvious picks for the Big East.

Who'd a thunk it?  The practice of hostile takeover hits college football. 


From nolan at tssi.com  Fri Sep  9 12:31:18 2011
From: nolan at tssi.com (Mike Nolan)
Date: Fri, 9 Sep 2011 12:31:18 -0500 (CDT)
Subject: [NU Sports] Injury Report
Message-ID: <20110909173118.C10C061311@romaine.tssi.com>

Persa - questionable, I doubt he'll even suit up, just like last week.  

Out:  DT Arfelt, DT DiNardo, S Carpenter, LB Ellis, LB Goodlow,
WR Tony Jones.

Trumpy is doubtful with a head injury.  
--
Mike Nolan


From bwdolphin146 at yahoo.com  Fri Sep  9 13:30:57 2011
From: bwdolphin146 at yahoo.com (Brad Wilson)
Date: Fri, 9 Sep 2011 11:30:57 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [NU Sports] WGN mobile
Message-ID: <1315593057.68652.YahooMailClassic@web114704.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>

Thanks Tom for the notice on the WGN mobile app. Will come in handy for me, as I work every Saturday for a while now.

Brad Wilson

From bwdolphin146 at yahoo.com  Fri Sep  9 13:32:26 2011
From: bwdolphin146 at yahoo.com (Brad Wilson)
Date: Fri, 9 Sep 2011 11:32:26 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [NU Sports] attendance guess for EIU?
In-Reply-To: <1315593057.68652.YahooMailClassic@web114704.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <1315593146.36205.YahooMailClassic@web114717.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>

Anybody? 30,000? 35.000? 25,000:? Does no Persa mean smaller crowds? 

Brad Wilson

From bwdolphin146 at yahoo.com  Fri Sep  9 13:35:19 2011
From: bwdolphin146 at yahoo.com (Brad Wilson)
Date: Fri, 9 Sep 2011 11:35:19 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [NU Sports] best moment in college football
In-Reply-To: <1315593146.36205.YahooMailClassic@web114717.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <1315593319.33847.YahooMailClassic@web114718.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>

Watching the joy and delight on the faces of the players as they sang Go-U-Northwestern in front of us at Boston College. Truly made the trip from Philadelphia worth every nickel. Brian Peters and Ben Johnson seemed especially animated but all were fired up. As were we!

Never underestimate what good support from the stands can mean to kids playing sports. 

Brad Wilson



From nolan at tssi.com  Fri Sep  9 14:19:20 2011
From: nolan at tssi.com (Mike Nolan)
Date: Fri, 9 Sep 2011 14:19:20 -0500 (CDT)
Subject: [NU Sports] attendance guess for EIU?
In-Reply-To: <1315593146.36205.YahooMailClassic@web114717.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <20110909191920.E7A2C61315@romaine.tssi.com>

> Anybody? 30,000? 35.000? 25,000:? Does no Persa mean smaller crowds? 

Are the students back yet?  If not, then I'd guess about 25,000 tops.
--
Mike Nolan


From tkmaycock at yahoo.com  Fri Sep  9 14:36:54 2011
From: tkmaycock at yahoo.com (Tom Maycock)
Date: Fri, 9 Sep 2011 12:36:54 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [NU Sports] attendance guess for EIU?
In-Reply-To: <20110909191920.E7A2C61315@romaine.tssi.com>
References: <1315593146.36205.YahooMailClassic@web114717.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>
 <20110909191920.E7A2C61315@romaine.tssi.com>
Message-ID: <1315597014.37769.YahooMailNeo@web161010.mail.bf1.yahoo.com>

I have a feeling it will be a bit better than that. I recall seeing a couple of comments that season ticket sales were up. I also think the 2:30 start will help. It's been a long-held believe that 11am starts have had a negative impact on attendance, so this will be a bit of a test of that, as will the night games later this year.?

Sadly, I won't be in the stands for this one, but our seats will be filled!

Tom



----- Original Message -----
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> To: Brad Wilson <bwdolphin146 at yahoo.com>
> Cc: nwu-sports at tssi.com
> Sent: Friday, September 9, 2011 2:19 PM
> Subject: Re: [NU Sports] attendance guess for EIU?
> 
>>  Anybody? 30,000? 35.000? 25,000:? Does no Persa mean smaller crowds? 
> 
> Are the students back yet?? If not, then I'd guess about 25,000 tops.
> --
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> 
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From scottzel at gmail.com  Fri Sep  9 14:54:52 2011
From: scottzel at gmail.com (Scott Zeller, M.D.)
Date: Fri, 9 Sep 2011 12:54:52 -0700
Subject: [NU Sports] attendance guess for EIU?
In-Reply-To: <20110909191920.E7A2C61315@romaine.tssi.com>
References: <1315593146.36205.YahooMailClassic@web114717.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>
 <20110909191920.E7A2C61315@romaine.tssi.com>
Message-ID: <CAHChqvhLZFRSLjTdxx5d7WtW=GtP2oK881QoouAW4N31arJrqA@mail.gmail.com>

I'm guessing about 47,900. Big contingency of Eastern Illinois devotees head
up from Charleston. Remember, their team is on a roll, having come from
behind to topple the Illinois State-Normal Redbirds last week.

On Fri, Sep 9, 2011 at 12:19 PM, Mike Nolan <nolan at tssi.com> wrote:

> > Anybody? 30,000? 35.000? 25,000:? Does no Persa mean smaller crowds?
>
> Are the students back yet?  If not, then I'd guess about 25,000 tops.
> --
> Mike Nolan
>
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From nolan at tssi.com  Fri Sep  9 15:09:45 2011
From: nolan at tssi.com (Mike Nolan)
Date: Fri, 9 Sep 2011 15:09:45 -0500 (CDT)
Subject: [NU Sports] attendance guess for EIU?
In-Reply-To: <CAHChqvhLZFRSLjTdxx5d7WtW=GtP2oK881QoouAW4N31arJrqA@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <20110909200945.5111561762@romaine.tssi.com>

> I'm guessing about 47,900. Big contingency of Eastern Illinois devotees head
> up from Charleston. Remember, their team is on a roll, having come from
> behind to topple the Illinois State-Normal Redbirds last week.

Perhaps, but their home stadium only seats 10,000 and they didn't sell
it out last week, attendance was 9111.

Last year the Illinois State game drew 25,471 and the Central Michigan
Game drew 30,075.  But that game was on Sep 25th, after the students
were back.  I'm sticking with my 25K prediction.
--
Mike Nolan


From neonrye at aol.com  Fri Sep  9 15:15:41 2011
From: neonrye at aol.com (neonrye at aol.com)
Date: Fri, 9 Sep 2011 20:15:41 +0000
Subject: [NU Sports] attendance guess for EIU?
Message-ID: <273571486-1315599324-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-2102230506-@b25.c19.bise6.blackberry>

I bid 28 K
------Original Message------
From: Mike Nolan
Sender: nwu-sports-bounces at tssi.com
To: Scott Zeller, M.D.
Cc: NUSPORTS
Subject: Re: [NU Sports] attendance guess for EIU?
Sent: Sep 9, 2011 4:09 PM

> I'm guessing about 47,900. Big contingency of Eastern Illinois devotees head
> up from Charleston. Remember, their team is on a roll, having come from
> behind to topple the Illinois State-Normal Redbirds last week.

Perhaps, but their home stadium only seats 10,000 and they didn't sell
it out last week, attendance was 9111.

Last year the Illinois State game drew 25,471 and the Central Michigan
Game drew 30,075.  But that game was on Sep 25th, after the students
were back.  I'm sticking with my 25K prediction.
--
Mike Nolan

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From AJWDBW at aol.com  Fri Sep  9 15:35:03 2011
From: AJWDBW at aol.com (AJWDBW at aol.com)
Date: Fri, 9 Sep 2011 16:35:03 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: [NU Sports] attendance guess for EIU?
Message-ID: <433aa.55b106cf.3b9bd277@aol.com>

I'm in for 27,493.
Don Williams C55
 
 
In a message dated 9/9/2011 3:15:44 P.M. Central Daylight Time,  
neonrye at aol.com writes:

I bid 28  K


From tkmaycock at yahoo.com  Fri Sep  9 15:48:19 2011
From: tkmaycock at yahoo.com (Tom Maycock)
Date: Fri, 9 Sep 2011 13:48:19 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [NU Sports] attendance guess for EIU?
In-Reply-To: <433aa.55b106cf.3b9bd277@aol.com>
References: <433aa.55b106cf.3b9bd277@aol.com>
Message-ID: <1315601299.89080.YahooMailNeo@web161020.mail.bf1.yahoo.com>

Oh hell, I'll be wildly enthusiastic:

32,503

What's the prize for the winner?

Tom




----- Original Message -----
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> To: neonrye at aol.com; nolan at tssi.com; nwu-sports-bounces at tssi.com; scottzel at gmail.com
> Cc: nwu-sports at tssi.com
> Sent: Friday, September 9, 2011 3:35 PM
> Subject: Re: [NU Sports] attendance guess for EIU?
> 
> I'm in for 27,493.
> Don Williams C55
> 
> 
> In a message dated 9/9/2011 3:15:44 P.M. Central Daylight Time,? 
> neonrye at aol.com writes:
> 
> I bid 28? K
> 
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From sportsbiz at gmail.com  Fri Sep  9 16:30:06 2011
From: sportsbiz at gmail.com (Sportsbiz)
Date: Fri, 9 Sep 2011 17:30:06 -0400
Subject: [NU Sports] attendance guess for EIU?
In-Reply-To: <1315601299.89080.YahooMailNeo@web161020.mail.bf1.yahoo.com>
References: <433aa.55b106cf.3b9bd277@aol.com>
 <1315601299.89080.YahooMailNeo@web161020.mail.bf1.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <CAPCH0EMNOr2LUR1fT9aRfCxqyMo42MQ7_2Y1pU1AqLxLwjaL2g@mail.gmail.com>

I'll bid 30,050
On Sep 9, 2011 4:48 PM, "Tom Maycock" <tkmaycock at yahoo.com> wrote:
> Oh hell, I'll be wildly enthusiastic:
>
> 32,503
>
> What's the prize for the winner?
>
> Tom
>
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "AJWDBW at aol.com" <AJWDBW at aol.com>
>> To: neonrye at aol.com; nolan at tssi.com; nwu-sports-bounces at tssi.com;
scottzel at gmail.com
>> Cc: nwu-sports at tssi.com
>> Sent: Friday, September 9, 2011 3:35 PM
>> Subject: Re: [NU Sports] attendance guess for EIU?
>>
>> I'm in for 27,493.
>> Don Williams C55
>>
>>
>> In a message dated 9/9/2011 3:15:44 P.M. Central Daylight Time,
>> neonrye at aol.com writes:
>>
>> I bid 28  K
>>
>> _______________________________________________
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From bwdolphin146 at yahoo.com  Fri Sep  9 19:02:50 2011
From: bwdolphin146 at yahoo.com (Brad Wilson)
Date: Sat, 10 Sep 2011 00:02:50 +0000
Subject: [NU Sports] attendance guess for EIU?
In-Reply-To: <1315597014.37769.YahooMailNeo@web161010.mail.bf1.yahoo.com>
References: <1315593146.36205.YahooMailClassic@web114717.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>
 <20110909191920.E7A2C61315@romaine.tssi.com><1315597014.37769.YahooMailNeo@web161010.mail.bf1.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <1016197223-1315612972-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-2023641286-@b18.c29.bise6.blackberry>

Could not agree more about 11 am kicks. 

At BC last week even with a noon kick the BC kids didn't all get there until 1. 

Bw
Sent on the Sprint? Now Network from my BlackBerry?

-----Original Message-----
From: Tom Maycock <tkmaycock at yahoo.com>
Date: Fri, 9 Sep 2011 12:36:54 
To: Mike Nolan<nolan at tssi.com>; Brad Wilson<bwdolphin146 at yahoo.com>
Reply-To: Tom Maycock <tkmaycock at yahoo.com>
Cc: nwu-sports at tssi.com<nwu-sports at tssi.com>
Subject: Re: [NU Sports] attendance guess for EIU?

I have a feeling it will be a bit better than that. I recall seeing a couple of comments that season ticket sales were up. I also think the 2:30 start will help. It's been a long-held believe that 11am starts have had a negative impact on attendance, so this will be a bit of a test of that, as will the night games later this year.?

Sadly, I won't be in the stands for this one, but our seats will be filled!

Tom



----- Original Message -----
> From: Mike Nolan <nolan at tssi.com>
> To: Brad Wilson <bwdolphin146 at yahoo.com>
> Cc: nwu-sports at tssi.com
> Sent: Friday, September 9, 2011 2:19 PM
> Subject: Re: [NU Sports] attendance guess for EIU?
> 
>>  Anybody? 30,000? 35.000? 25,000:? Does no Persa mean smaller crowds? 
> 
> Are the students back yet?? If not, then I'd guess about 25,000 tops.
> --
> Mike Nolan
> 
>_______________________________________________
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From sjtruog at yahoo.com  Fri Sep  9 18:25:52 2011
From: sjtruog at yahoo.com (Stephen Truog)
Date: Fri, 9 Sep 2011 16:25:52 -0700
Subject: [NU Sports] attendance guess for EIU?
In-Reply-To: <20110909200945.5111561762@romaine.tssi.com>
References: <20110909200945.5111561762@romaine.tssi.com>
Message-ID: <8A46BCF2-33CE-4500-A336-F6ECB7CC109E@yahoo.com>

One dollar! Oops, wrong game show:)

STEPHEN J. TRUOG
sjtruog at yahoo.com


On Sep 9, 2011, at 1:09 PM, nolan at tssi.com (Mike Nolan) wrote:

>> I'm guessing about 47,900. Big contingency of Eastern Illinois devotees head
>> up from Charleston. Remember, their team is on a roll, having come from
>> behind to topple the Illinois State-Normal Redbirds last week.
> 
> Perhaps, but their home stadium only seats 10,000 and they didn't sell
> it out last week, attendance was 9111.
> 
> Last year the Illinois State game drew 25,471 and the Central Michigan
> Game drew 30,075.  But that game was on Sep 25th, after the students
> were back.  I'm sticking with my 25K prediction.
> --
> Mike Nolan
> 
> _______________________________________________
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> nwu-sports at tssi.com
> http://romaine.tssi.com/mailman/listinfo/nwu-sports


From wildelk2 at aol.com  Sat Sep 10 07:29:40 2011
From: wildelk2 at aol.com (Eric Kunkel)
Date: Sat, 10 Sep 2011 08:29:40 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: [NU Sports] attendance guess for EIU?
In-Reply-To: <1016197223-1315612972-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-2023641286-@b18.c29.bise6.blackberry>
References: <1315593146.36205.YahooMailClassic@web114717.mail.gq1.yahoo.com><20110909191920.E7A2C61315@romaine.tssi.com><1315597014.37769.YahooMailNeo@web161010.mail.bf1.yahoo.com>
 <1016197223-1315612972-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-2023641286-@b18.c29.bise6.blackberry>
Message-ID: <8CE3DCC71F70C77-183C-6B8C@webmail-d049.sysops.aol.com>

I'm guessing 26,000, which is much better than 17,000 that was at the game vs. Nevada a few years ago, or 20,000 that was there in 2005 vs. Ohio.


.02:  Great opportunity for Adonis Smith to win the job today.  Trumpy out gives him a shot at 20 carries.  Let's see what he does.


4th down calls: Give the ball to Schmidt. He's the RB who'll get that 1 yard. I presume he's corrected the case of fumbleitis he had last season.


Easy breezy 38-14 win, maybe 42-14.         GO CATS!!                    Eric





-----Original Message-----
From: Brad Wilson <bwdolphin146 at yahoo.com>
To: Tom Maycock <tkmaycock at yahoo.com>; Mike Nolan <nolan at tssi.com>
Cc: nwu-sports <nwu-sports at tssi.com>
Sent: Fri, Sep 9, 2011 4:03 pm
Subject: Re: [NU Sports] attendance guess for EIU?


Could not agree more about 11 am kicks. 

At BC last week even with a noon kick the BC kids didn't all get there until 1. 

Bw
Sent on the Sprint? Now Network from my BlackBerry?

-----Original Message-----
From: Tom Maycock <tkmaycock at yahoo.com>
Date: Fri, 9 Sep 2011 12:36:54 
To: Mike Nolan<nolan at tssi.com>; Brad Wilson<bwdolphin146 at yahoo.com>
Reply-To: Tom Maycock <tkmaycock at yahoo.com>
Cc: nwu-sports at tssi.com<nwu-sports at tssi.com>
Subject: Re: [NU Sports] attendance guess for EIU?

I have a feeling it will be a bit better than that. I recall seeing a couple of 
comments that season ticket sales were up. I also think the 2:30 start will 
help. It's been a long-held believe that 11am starts have had a negative impact 
on attendance, so this will be a bit of a test of that, as will the night games 
later this year. 

Sadly, I won't be in the stands for this one, but our seats will be filled!

Tom



----- Original Message -----
> From: Mike Nolan <nolan at tssi.com>
> To: Brad Wilson <bwdolphin146 at yahoo.com>
> Cc: nwu-sports at tssi.com
> Sent: Friday, September 9, 2011 2:19 PM
> Subject: Re: [NU Sports] attendance guess for EIU?
> 
>>  Anybody? 30,000? 35.000? 25,000:? Does no Persa mean smaller crowds? 
> 
> Are the students back yet?  If not, then I'd guess about 25,000 tops.
> --
> Mike Nolan
> 
>_______________________________________________
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From AJWDBW at aol.com  Sat Sep 10 09:19:42 2011
From: AJWDBW at aol.com (AJWDBW at aol.com)
Date: Sat, 10 Sep 2011 10:19:42 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: [NU Sports] attendance guess for EIU?
Message-ID: <6dd38.440a5886.3b9ccbfe@aol.com>

Does anyone know the over/under?
Don
 
 
In a message dated 9/9/2011 4:30:23 P.M. Central Daylight Time,  
sportsbiz at gmail.com writes:

I'll bid  30,050
On Sep 9, 2011 4:48 PM, "Tom Maycock" <tkmaycock at yahoo.com>  wrote:
> Oh hell, I'll be wildly enthusiastic:
>
>  32,503
>
> What's the prize for the winner?
>
>  Tom
>
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message  -----
>> From: "AJWDBW at aol.com" <AJWDBW at aol.com>
>>  To: neonrye at aol.com; nolan at tssi.com;  nwu-sports-bounces at tssi.com;
scottzel at gmail.com
>> Cc:  nwu-sports at tssi.com
>> Sent: Friday, September 9, 2011 3:35  PM
>> Subject: Re: [NU Sports] attendance guess for  EIU?
>>
>> I'm in for 27,493.
>> Don Williams  C55
>>
>>
>> In a message dated 9/9/2011 3:15:44  P.M. Central Daylight Time,
>> neonrye at aol.com  writes:
>>
>> I bid 28  K
>>
>>  _______________________________________________
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From MHRJGScott at aol.com  Sat Sep 10 14:35:41 2011
From: MHRJGScott at aol.com (MHRJGScott at aol.com)
Date: Sat, 10 Sep 2011 15:35:41 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: [NU Sports] conflicted
Message-ID: <152e7.30815f00.3b9d160d@aol.com>

Is my feeling when watching Iowa in overtime or dOSU escape an upset, as I  
hate them even though they are BT. The other 3 games were not so 
suspenseful, as  the combined score was like 135-3.
GO CATS!!!!!

From neonrye at aol.com  Sat Sep 10 14:53:19 2011
From: neonrye at aol.com (neonrye at aol.com)
Date: Sat, 10 Sep 2011 19:53:19 +0000
Subject: [NU Sports] conflicted
Message-ID: <891636126-1315684380-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-1892280131-@b25.c19.bise6.blackberry>

Agreed. 
'Cats off to good start.  Colter continues to shine.
Love the "USA N" at the 50 and on the helmets.  Great stuff.
------Original Message------
From: MHRJGScott at aol.com
Sender: nwu-sports-bounces at tssi.com
To: nwu-sports at tssi.com
Subject: [NU Sports] conflicted
Sent: Sep 10, 2011 3:35 PM

Is my feeling when watching Iowa in overtime or dOSU escape an upset, as I  
hate them even though they are BT. The other 3 games were not so 
suspenseful, as  the combined score was like 135-3.
GO CATS!!!!!
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From sjtruog at yahoo.com  Sat Sep 10 15:10:12 2011
From: sjtruog at yahoo.com (SjT (Stephen J. Truog))
Date: Sat, 10 Sep 2011 13:10:12 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [NU Sports] conflicted
In-Reply-To: <891636126-1315684380-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-1892280131-@b25.c19.bise6.blackberry>
References: <891636126-1315684380-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-1892280131-@b25.c19.bise6.blackberry>
Message-ID: <1315685412.98101.YahooMailNeo@web121706.mail.ne1.yahoo.com>

I agree ... you want the league to look good (Go PSU! Go Blue!), but at the same time, it's fun to see Iowa lose to their pesky rivals again, and it'd have been nice to see OSU slip so we quit hearing about how they haven't lost to anyone from Ohio in blah blah blah (as if that's an accomplishment).

Cats are coming out strong (Colter runs the option so well - selling out to draw the defender). Keep it up!

And PSU is coming out FIRED UP! That spot on Bama's fake punt just now was total SEC bull.
Go Lions! Michigan better come out fired up as well.

GO CATS!!!
-SjT
?
* * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *
STEPHEN J. TRUOG
sjtruog at yahoo.com
GO CATS!!! GEAUX SAINTS!!!
Super Bowl XLIV Champions!
________________________________



________________________________
From: "neonrye at aol.com" <neonrye at aol.com>
To: MHRJGScott at aol.com; nwu-sports-bounces at tssi.com; nwu-sports at tssi.com
Sent: Saturday, September 10, 2011 12:53 PM
Subject: Re: [NU Sports] conflicted

Agreed. 
'Cats off to good start.? Colter continues to shine.
Love the "USA N" at the 50 and on the helmets.? Great stuff.
------Original Message------
From: MHRJGScott at aol.com
Sender: nwu-sports-bounces at tssi.com
To: nwu-sports at tssi.com
Subject: [NU Sports] conflicted
Sent: Sep 10, 2011 3:35 PM

Is my feeling when watching Iowa in overtime or dOSU escape an upset, as I? 
hate them even though they are BT. The other 3 games were not so 
suspenseful, as? the combined score was like 135-3.
GO CATS!!!!!
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From Jeff.Beamsley at covisint.com  Sat Sep 10 15:32:31 2011
From: Jeff.Beamsley at covisint.com (Beamsley, Jeff)
Date: Sat, 10 Sep 2011 16:32:31 -0400
Subject: [NU Sports] conflicted
In-Reply-To: <1315685412.98101.YahooMailNeo@web121706.mail.ne1.yahoo.com>
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LOVE running between the tackles. 

Jeff

Sent from my iPhone

On Sep 10, 2011, at 4:10 PM, "SjT (Stephen J. Truog)" <sjtruog at yahoo.com> wrote:

> I agree ... you want the league to look good (Go PSU! Go Blue!), but at the same time, it's fun to see Iowa lose to their pesky rivals again, and it'd have been nice to see OSU slip so we quit hearing about how they haven't lost to anyone from Ohio in blah blah blah (as if that's an accomplishment).
> 
> Cats are coming out strong (Colter runs the option so well - selling out to draw the defender). Keep it up!
> 
> And PSU is coming out FIRED UP! That spot on Bama's fake punt just now was total SEC bull.
> Go Lions! Michigan better come out fired up as well.
> 
> GO CATS!!!
> -SjT
>  
> * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *
> STEPHEN J. TRUOG
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> Super Bowl XLIV Champions!
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> 
> 
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> Sent: Saturday, September 10, 2011 12:53 PM
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> 
> Agreed. 
> 'Cats off to good start.  Colter continues to shine.
> Love the "USA N" at the 50 and on the helmets.  Great stuff.
> ------Original Message------
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> Sent: Sep 10, 2011 3:35 PM
> 
> Is my feeling when watching Iowa in overtime or dOSU escape an upset, as I  
> hate them even though they are BT. The other 3 games were not so 
> suspenseful, as  the combined score was like 135-3.
> GO CATS!!!!!
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From rstetson at capps-assoc.com  Sat Sep 10 15:40:29 2011
From: rstetson at capps-assoc.com (Roy S. Lamberton)
Date: Sat, 10 Sep 2011 16:40:29 -0400
Subject: [NU Sports] it was going so well
Message-ID: <000001cc6ff9$e1aef060$a50cd120$@com>

Not sure about the blown coverage, but NU has 2 TDs on turnovers.

EI is a better team than we thought.

rsl

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Director Media Relations - Little League 
  Senior League Softball World Series
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From neonrye at aol.com  Sat Sep 10 16:02:44 2011
From: neonrye at aol.com (neonrye at aol.com)
Date: Sat, 10 Sep 2011 21:02:44 +0000
Subject: [NU Sports] it was going so well
In-Reply-To: <000001cc6ff9$e1aef060$a50cd120$@com>
References: <000001cc6ff9$e1aef060$a50cd120$@com>
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So is NU, Roy.  This team has attitude--and talent and depth.  I am feeling the love right now.  If we can stay away from injuries, who knoiws how high these 'Cats can prowl.
Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry

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Date: Sat, 10 Sep 2011 16:40:29 
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Subject: [NU Sports] it was going so well

Not sure about the blown coverage, but NU has 2 TDs on turnovers.

EI is a better team than we thought.

rsl

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  Senior League Softball World Series
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From neonrye at aol.com  Sat Sep 10 17:21:12 2011
From: neonrye at aol.com (neonrye at aol.com)
Date: Sat, 10 Sep 2011 22:21:12 +0000
Subject: [NU Sports] it was going so well
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I have to say I am really enjoying Glenn Mason's color commentary on BTN.  He knows the game, loves Fitz and has a good sense of humor.  What were the powers that be at Minny thinking when they showed him the door?  Now look how much the Gophers suck.  
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So is NU, Roy.  This team has attitude--and talent and depth.  I am feeling the love right now.  If we can stay away from injuries, who knoiws how high these 'Cats can prowl.
Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry

-----Original Message-----
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Date: Sat, 10 Sep 2011 16:40:29 
To: <nwu-sports at tssi.com>
Subject: [NU Sports] it was going so well

Not sure about the blown coverage, but NU has 2 TDs on turnovers.

EI is a better team than we thought.

rsl

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  Senior League Softball World Series
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From sjtruog at yahoo.com  Sat Sep 10 17:24:09 2011
From: sjtruog at yahoo.com (SjT (Stephen J. Truog))
Date: Sat, 10 Sep 2011 15:24:09 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [NU Sports] Around the league today ...
Message-ID: <1315693449.94510.YahooMailNeo@web121712.mail.ne1.yahoo.com>

Love the ground game for the Cats today! Granted it's EIU, but practice makes perfect. Colter is a better QB than Persa at running the option (and his body is paying the price for it), but I still want to see Dan back under the center ASAP. Still, nice to know our backup is ready to step in! Now close out the fourth strong and get ready for Army!

Elsewhere in the league ...

* WISCONSIN wasn't quite as impressive this week. They gradually wore the Beavers down, but coaches need to look at that first half film to see what the smaller OSU defenders were able to do to shut down the Badger running game.

* MSU rebounded impressively - which is good, because they'll need to be sharp in South Bend next week.

* ILLINOIS looked like their offense is in midseason form as well ... could be a high scoring game in a couple weeks for that stovepipe hat.

* OSU looked mighty vulnerable. I think other Big Ten teams might be smelling some blood in the water after this week in Columbus. We'll see if they can respond at Miami or if a downward slide is beginning.

* IO_A? Well, it is a big rivalry over in Cornland, but they still have no excuse. Totally outplayed, and despite rooting for the Big Ten in general out of league play, I must admit I had a smile on my face.

* PENN STATE remains my sleeper team and the most likely team to make it to Indy this year who doesn't wear red and white uniforms. They came out strong and unafraid of Bama and the SEC mystique ... but that bogus spot on Bama's fake punt really turned that game around. That was a terrible call and it really ended all upset momentum. But still, PSU looked decent against the mighty Slick Nick Saban and they won't face a defense as tough as Bama's for the rest of the year.

* MINNESOTA and PURDUE are in trouble. I kind of expected more out of both of them. We'll see if they can come back.

* For the nightcaps, UNL looks like a win, INDIANA looks like they're facing an 0-2 start and MICHIGAN is the mystery. The Irish defense looked good last week, and if their coach manages to keep some semblance of control over his embarrassing temper (kudos to Wilbon for nailing him on it all week!), that could be a nip-and-tuck game.

But overall, great to see an NU game that does not come down to the wire and keeps the clock purple!

GO CATS!!!
-SjT
?
* * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *
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From rstetson at capps-assoc.com  Sat Sep 10 18:22:34 2011
From: rstetson at capps-assoc.com (Roy S. Lamberton)
Date: Sat, 10 Sep 2011 19:22:34 -0400
Subject: [NU Sports] Eastern Illinois
Message-ID: <000401cc7010$85f22b90$91d682b0$@com>

Colter again shows why he's 1b at QB, and we also don't have to worry about the 2nd team
either, at least when we're playing 1AA.
Seimian ran a lot of the same offense that Colter did, but he read the passing a little
better, and those O-linemen really got a push going.

I was a little worried about the Defense at the end of the game, until I started reading
the names on the NU players. Lots of backups in the game during those last 2 drives.
Browne was on his game again, but I think we did miss diNardo a bit.

Persa looked very confident on the sidelines. You have to hope he'll be ready to play some
against Army. 

I'm more worried about NU's D dealing with the triple option.

rsl

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Director Media Relations - Little League 
  Senior League Softball World Series
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Northwestern University - Speech 1974 - 
Chi Phi: Pi 1974, KD 1968
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From tbng at comcast.net  Sat Sep 10 20:24:35 2011
From: tbng at comcast.net (Dennis W. Brandt)
Date: Sat, 10 Sep 2011 21:24:35 -0400
Subject: [NU Sports] Cats win
Message-ID: <C5775FD5E9F2444DB023C5EC7908A243@dennismachine>

I don't believe we need to worry about who the starting quarterback will be the next two seasons - if Kain can survive 30 runs a game.  Siemian only threw two passes today, but they were smoothly and confidently delivered.

We ran for a ton of yards - a few yards at a time.  I'd like to see a little more of Treyvon Green.

We wore 'em down today.  But can we wear down Nebraska and Penn State?

We still don't have much of a pass rush, and that's scary.  Browne's one sack was a thing of beauty and on a three-man rush at that, but we need a lot more pressure from the front four.

We won big, but the score should have been more lopsided against the likes of Eastern Illinois.  We never dominated the game.

Army does not worry me.  We have a quarterback who can run the option in practice, and Army's defense will never stop us - unless they mine the field.  The game will be televised on CBS Sports.

From rstetson at capps-assoc.com  Sat Sep 10 20:28:05 2011
From: rstetson at capps-assoc.com (Roy S. Lamberton)
Date: Sat, 10 Sep 2011 21:28:05 -0400
Subject: [NU Sports] Cats win
In-Reply-To: <C5775FD5E9F2444DB023C5EC7908A243@dennismachine>
References: <C5775FD5E9F2444DB023C5EC7908A243@dennismachine>
Message-ID: <001101cc7022$0f30d800$2d928800$@com>

A few years back, I went to the Navy - Delaware game. 

Navy runs that triple option offense - I think it's called the Spread Option.

Delaware had a young QB named Joe Flacco, now with the Ravens.

Neither team's defense could stop the other, and it came down to the last team that
scored, won. 

I hope our game with Army isn't such a game.

rsl

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-------------------- Also ----------------------
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Director Media Relations - Little League 
  Senior League Softball World Series
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Northwestern University - Speech 1974 - 
Chi Phi: Pi 1974, KD 1968
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-----Original Message-----
From: nwu-sports-bounces at tssi.com [mailto:nwu-sports-bounces at tssi.com] On Behalf Of Dennis
W. Brandt
Sent: Saturday, September 10, 2011 9:25 PM
To: nwu-sports at tssi.com
Subject: [NU Sports] Cats win

I don't believe we need to worry about who the starting quarterback will be the next two
seasons - if Kain can survive 30 runs a game.  Siemian only threw two passes today, but
they were smoothly and confidently delivered.

We ran for a ton of yards - a few yards at a time.  I'd like to see a little more of
Treyvon Green.

We wore 'em down today.  But can we wear down Nebraska and Penn State?

We still don't have much of a pass rush, and that's scary.  Browne's one sack was a thing
of beauty and on a three-man rush at that, but we need a lot more pressure from the front
four.

We won big, but the score should have been more lopsided against the likes of Eastern
Illinois.  We never dominated the game.

Army does not worry me.  We have a quarterback who can run the option in practice, and
Army's defense will never stop us - unless they mine the field.  The game will be
televised on CBS Sports.
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From rstetson at capps-assoc.com  Sat Sep 10 20:47:09 2011
From: rstetson at capps-assoc.com (Roy S. Lamberton)
Date: Sat, 10 Sep 2011 21:47:09 -0400
Subject: [NU Sports] UNL is NEB on the BTN
Message-ID: <001201cc7024$b9057d20$2b107760$@com>

I guess Nebraska isn't going to be NU on the Big 10 Network. 

Their screen scoreboard has NEB altho at times it looks like NEU.

Meanwhile, they're having a little trouble with Fresno State and Virginia is "handling"
Indy.

But what about Toledo taking dOSU to the final seconds, or BYU beating up on Texas?

Strange day in College Football.

rsl

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-------------------- Also ----------------------
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Director Media Relations - Little League 
  Senior League Softball World Series
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Northwestern University - Speech 1974 - 
Chi Phi: Pi 1974, KD 1968
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From neonrye at aol.com  Sat Sep 10 20:51:41 2011
From: neonrye at aol.com (neonrye at aol.com)
Date: Sun, 11 Sep 2011 01:51:41 +0000
Subject: [NU Sports] Eastern Illinois
In-Reply-To: <000401cc7010$85f22b90$91d682b0$@com>
References: <000401cc7010$85f22b90$91d682b0$@com>
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Anybody know the nature and extent of Adonis Smith's leg injury?
Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry

-----Original Message-----
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Sender: nwu-sports-bounces at tssi.com
Date: Sat, 10 Sep 2011 19:22:34 
To: <nwu-sports at tssi.com>
Subject: [NU Sports] Eastern Illinois

Colter again shows why he's 1b at QB, and we also don't have to worry about the 2nd team
either, at least when we're playing 1AA.
Seimian ran a lot of the same offense that Colter did, but he read the passing a little
better, and those O-linemen really got a push going.

I was a little worried about the Defense at the end of the game, until I started reading
the names on the NU players. Lots of backups in the game during those last 2 drives.
Browne was on his game again, but I think we did miss diNardo a bit.

Persa looked very confident on the sidelines. You have to hope he'll be ready to play some
against Army. 

I'm more worried about NU's D dealing with the triple option.

rsl

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Director Media Relations - Little League 
  Senior League Softball World Series
CTR2 USN (67-70) - CTRCS USNR (Ret) (64-67/70-95)
Northwestern University - Speech 1974 - 
Chi Phi: Pi 1974, KD 1968
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From j-hodges at alumni.northwestern.edu  Sat Sep 10 20:56:10 2011
From: j-hodges at alumni.northwestern.edu (Jonathan Hodges)
Date: Sat, 10 Sep 2011 21:56:10 -0400
Subject: [NU Sports] Eastern Illinois
In-Reply-To: <316099991-1315705882-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-1991029714-@b25.c19.bise6.blackberry>
References: <000401cc7010$85f22b90$91d682b0$@com>
 <316099991-1315705882-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-1991029714-@b25.c19.bise6.blackberry>
Message-ID: <CAAxRJu573Ly-jA0Ecw+3Kzy9+N0LYeuK8h053dKtQpm9TZGspg@mail.gmail.com>

It looked like an ankle injury, hard to tell the extent as he had to be
helped off the field.  He would be sent to the locker room before the end of
the game.  I'm sure we'll get a status report from Fitz on Monday (whatever
that's worth).

Hopefully Trumpy will be back next week (he didn't dress this week with a
concussion suffered a week ago), and true freshman Treyvon Green looked
solid running the football so NU should be OK and then may be able to get
Smith back for the Illinois game.

Jonathan

On Sat, Sep 10, 2011 at 9:51 PM, <neonrye at aol.com> wrote:

> Anybody know the nature and extent of Adonis Smith's leg injury?
> Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: "Roy S. Lamberton" <rstetson at capps-assoc.com>
> Sender: nwu-sports-bounces at tssi.com
> Date: Sat, 10 Sep 2011 19:22:34
> To: <nwu-sports at tssi.com>
> Subject: [NU Sports] Eastern Illinois
>
> Colter again shows why he's 1b at QB, and we also don't have to worry about
> the 2nd team
> either, at least when we're playing 1AA.
> Seimian ran a lot of the same offense that Colter did, but he read the
> passing a little
> better, and those O-linemen really got a push going.
>
> I was a little worried about the Defense at the end of the game, until I
> started reading
> the names on the NU players. Lots of backups in the game during those last
> 2 drives.
> Browne was on his game again, but I think we did miss diNardo a bit.
>
> Persa looked very confident on the sidelines. You have to hope he'll be
> ready to play some
> against Army.
>
> I'm more worried about NU's D dealing with the triple option.
>
> rsl
>
> ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
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> Computer Applications & Support Associates
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> Director Media Relations - Little League
>  Senior League Softball World Series
> CTR2 USN (67-70) - CTRCS USNR (Ret) (64-67/70-95)
> Northwestern University - Speech 1974 -
> Chi Phi: Pi 1974, KD 1968
> Publisher Emeritus: Purple Reign (Fox Sports)
> ================================================
> Opinions expressed above are mine alone and are not
> those of any organizations of which I am a member.
> ------------------------------------------------
> "A true Democracy is two wolves and a lamb sitting
> down to vote on what is for dinner."
>
> "You have a republic, madam, if you can keep it"
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>
>
>
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From neonrye at aol.com  Sat Sep 10 21:09:54 2011
From: neonrye at aol.com (neonrye at aol.com)
Date: Sun, 11 Sep 2011 02:09:54 +0000
Subject: [NU Sports] Eastern Illinois
In-Reply-To: <CAAxRJu573Ly-jA0Ecw+3Kzy9+N0LYeuK8h053dKtQpm9TZGspg@mail.gmail.com>
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Until he went down I thought Adonis showed some strength and toughness.  I hope he's not badly hurt.  The rotation of backs seems to be working, in conjunction with the up-tempo attack.
Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry

-----Original Message-----
From: Jonathan Hodges <j-hodges at alumni.northwestern.edu>
Sender: jonathanwhodges at gmail.com
Date: Sat, 10 Sep 2011 21:56:10 
To: <neonrye at aol.com>
Cc: Roy S. Lamberton<rstetson at capps-assoc.com>; <nwu-sports-bounces at tssi.com>; <nwu-sports at tssi.com>
Subject: Re: [NU Sports] Eastern Illinois

It looked like an ankle injury, hard to tell the extent as he had to be
helped off the field.  He would be sent to the locker room before the end of
the game.  I'm sure we'll get a status report from Fitz on Monday (whatever
that's worth).

Hopefully Trumpy will be back next week (he didn't dress this week with a
concussion suffered a week ago), and true freshman Treyvon Green looked
solid running the football so NU should be OK and then may be able to get
Smith back for the Illinois game.

Jonathan

On Sat, Sep 10, 2011 at 9:51 PM, <neonrye at aol.com> wrote:

> Anybody know the nature and extent of Adonis Smith's leg injury?
> Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: "Roy S. Lamberton" <rstetson at capps-assoc.com>
> Sender: nwu-sports-bounces at tssi.com
> Date: Sat, 10 Sep 2011 19:22:34
> To: <nwu-sports at tssi.com>
> Subject: [NU Sports] Eastern Illinois
>
> Colter again shows why he's 1b at QB, and we also don't have to worry about
> the 2nd team
> either, at least when we're playing 1AA.
> Seimian ran a lot of the same offense that Colter did, but he read the
> passing a little
> better, and those O-linemen really got a push going.
>
> I was a little worried about the Defense at the end of the game, until I
> started reading
> the names on the NU players. Lots of backups in the game during those last
> 2 drives.
> Browne was on his game again, but I think we did miss diNardo a bit.
>
> Persa looked very confident on the sidelines. You have to hope he'll be
> ready to play some
> against Army.
>
> I'm more worried about NU's D dealing with the triple option.
>
> rsl
>
> ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
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From rstetson at capps-assoc.com  Sat Sep 10 21:43:56 2011
From: rstetson at capps-assoc.com (Roy S. Lamberton)
Date: Sat, 10 Sep 2011 22:43:56 -0400
Subject: [NU Sports] Eastern Illinois
In-Reply-To: <CAAxRJu573Ly-jA0Ecw+3Kzy9+N0LYeuK8h053dKtQpm9TZGspg@mail.gmail.com>
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Whatever it was, it sure looked ankle, and he tried to step down and wound up hopping off
the field.

 

Green was impressive at the end of the game. But even more impressive was the surge from
the middle of the O-Line. They were blowing the D back 4 or 5 yards almost every play.
Very impressive.

 

We better not get too many injuries on D, however. The younger guys there got a good
baptism of fire in the 4th quarter 'cause the Panthers just didn't give up.

 

Tough loss for Indy - on a last second FG after their QB got stripped. Kevin W didn't look
very happy, but then does he ever?

 

State Penn lost to Bama - so that conference domination continues. And what happened to
Minny?

 

rsl

 

++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

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Computer Applications & Support Associates

Coach Roy's Random Thoughts - http://coachroy.org

-------------------- Also ----------------------

"Commissioner" Delaware American Legion Baseball

Director Media Relations - Little League 

  Senior League Softball World Series

CTR2 USN (67-70) - CTRCS USNR (Ret) (64-67/70-95)

Northwestern University - Speech 1974 - 

Chi Phi: Pi 1974, KD 1968

Publisher Emeritus: Purple Reign (Fox Sports)

================================================

Opinions expressed above are mine alone and are not

those of any organizations of which I am a member.

------------------------------------------------

"A true Democracy is two wolves and a lamb sitting

down to vote on what is for dinner."

 

"You have a republic, madam, if you can keep it"

==========  Go Cats -  Beat 'em All  ===========

 

 

From: jonathanwhodges at gmail.com [mailto:jonathanwhodges at gmail.com] On Behalf Of Jonathan
Hodges
Sent: Saturday, September 10, 2011 9:56 PM
To: neonrye at aol.com
Cc: Roy S. Lamberton; nwu-sports-bounces at tssi.com; nwu-sports at tssi.com
Subject: Re: [NU Sports] Eastern Illinois

 

It looked like an ankle injury, hard to tell the extent as he had to be helped off the
field.  He would be sent to the locker room before the end of the game.  I'm sure we'll
get a status report from Fitz on Monday (whatever that's worth).

Hopefully Trumpy will be back next week (he didn't dress this week with a concussion
suffered a week ago), and true freshman Treyvon Green looked solid running the football so
NU should be OK and then may be able to get Smith back for the Illinois game.

Jonathan

On Sat, Sep 10, 2011 at 9:51 PM, <neonrye at aol.com> wrote:

Anybody know the nature and extent of Adonis Smith's leg injury?
Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry


-----Original Message-----
From: "Roy S. Lamberton" <rstetson at capps-assoc.com>
Sender: nwu-sports-bounces at tssi.com
Date: Sat, 10 Sep 2011 19:22:34
To: <nwu-sports at tssi.com>
Subject: [NU Sports] Eastern Illinois

Colter again shows why he's 1b at QB, and we also don't have to worry about the 2nd team
either, at least when we're playing 1AA.
Seimian ran a lot of the same offense that Colter did, but he read the passing a little
better, and those O-linemen really got a push going.

I was a little worried about the Defense at the end of the game, until I started reading
the names on the NU players. Lots of backups in the game during those last 2 drives.
Browne was on his game again, but I think we did miss diNardo a bit.

Persa looked very confident on the sidelines. You have to hope he'll be ready to play some
against Army.

I'm more worried about NU's D dealing with the triple option.

rsl

++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
Roy S. Lamberton - Senior Associate & Unix Guru.
Computer Applications & Support Associates
Coach Roy's Random Thoughts - http://coachroy.org
-------------------- Also ----------------------
"Commissioner" Delaware American Legion Baseball
Director Media Relations - Little League
 Senior League Softball World Series
CTR2 USN (67-70) - CTRCS USNR (Ret) (64-67/70-95)
Northwestern University - Speech 1974 -
Chi Phi: Pi 1974, KD 1968
Publisher Emeritus: Purple Reign (Fox Sports)
================================================
Opinions expressed above are mine alone and are not
those of any organizations of which I am a member.
------------------------------------------------
"A true Democracy is two wolves and a lamb sitting
down to vote on what is for dinner."

"You have a republic, madam, if you can keep it"
==========  Go Cats -  Beat 'em All  ===========




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From sjtruog at yahoo.com  Sat Sep 10 22:43:57 2011
From: sjtruog at yahoo.com (SjT (Stephen J. Truog))
Date: Sat, 10 Sep 2011 20:43:57 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [NU Sports] Aaaaaaand another B(C)S slot just opened up again ...
Message-ID: <1315712637.69954.YahooMailNeo@web121715.mail.ne1.yahoo.com>

Tough to see ND getting a bid with the 0-2 start and only MSU and Stanford left on the schedule to make their case.

Heck of a game in Ann Arbor ... not much defense, but Michigan Stadium looked more like Beaver Stadium. And what a WILD last 90 seconds!!!

Night games are AWESOME!!!

Freshly updated standings from the Fitzgerald Era:
- Northwestern: 36-29
- Notre Dame: 34-31

GO CATS!!!
-SjT

?
* * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *
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GO CATS!!! GEAUX SAINTS!!!
Super Bowl XLIV Champions!
________________________________

From bwdolphin146 at yahoo.com  Sat Sep 10 23:03:58 2011
From: bwdolphin146 at yahoo.com (Brad Wilson)
Date: Sun, 11 Sep 2011 04:03:58 +0000
Subject: [NU Sports] What a game at Michigan
Message-ID: <350284481-1315713841-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-2145158183-@b18.c29.bise6.blackberry>

I only listened to it on the radio and I am breathless. Wow. 

Robinson's first name should be Merlin. What a magician!! 

Helps save a so-so day for the league. 

Brad Wilson
Sent on the Sprint? Now Network from my BlackBerry?

From j-hodges at alumni.northwestern.edu  Sat Sep 10 23:36:26 2011
From: j-hodges at alumni.northwestern.edu (Jonathan Hodges)
Date: Sun, 11 Sep 2011 00:36:26 -0400
Subject: [NU Sports] attendance guess for EIU?
In-Reply-To: <6dd38.440a5886.3b9ccbfe@aol.com>
References: <6dd38.440a5886.3b9ccbfe@aol.com>
Message-ID: <CAAxRJu7__4XYqdY-wkMgavW0o2wCEOzo-ZktTmrY2YG8W3xxTw@mail.gmail.com>

BTW, attendance today was 28,042 - the highest for an NU home opener since
2001, when NU played MSU for their home opener since the Navy game was
cancelled in the aftermath of 9/11 (it's also by far the highest for any
recent NU vs. FCS/I-AA game).

Jonathan

On Sat, Sep 10, 2011 at 10:19 AM, <AJWDBW at aol.com> wrote:

> Does anyone know the over/under?
> Don
>
>
> In a message dated 9/9/2011 4:30:23 P.M. Central Daylight Time,
> sportsbiz at gmail.com writes:
>
> I'll bid  30,050
> On Sep 9, 2011 4:48 PM, "Tom Maycock" <tkmaycock at yahoo.com>  wrote:
> > Oh hell, I'll be wildly enthusiastic:
> >
> >  32,503
> >
> > What's the prize for the winner?
> >
> >  Tom
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > ----- Original Message  -----
> >> From: "AJWDBW at aol.com" <AJWDBW at aol.com>
> >>  To: neonrye at aol.com; nolan at tssi.com;  nwu-sports-bounces at tssi.com;
> scottzel at gmail.com
> >> Cc:  nwu-sports at tssi.com
> >> Sent: Friday, September 9, 2011 3:35  PM
> >> Subject: Re: [NU Sports] attendance guess for  EIU?
> >>
> >> I'm in for 27,493.
> >> Don Williams  C55
> >>
> >>
> >> In a message dated 9/9/2011 3:15:44  P.M. Central Daylight Time,
> >> neonrye at aol.com  writes:
> >>
> >> I bid 28  K
> >>
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From neonrye at aol.com  Sun Sep 11 07:38:07 2011
From: neonrye at aol.com (neonrye at aol.com)
Date: Sun, 11 Sep 2011 12:38:07 +0000
Subject: [NU Sports] attendance guess for EIU?
In-Reply-To: <CAAxRJu7__4XYqdY-wkMgavW0o2wCEOzo-ZktTmrY2YG8W3xxTw@mail.gmail.com>
References: <6dd38.440a5886.3b9ccbfe@aol.com><CAAxRJu7__4XYqdY-wkMgavW0o2wCEOzo-ZktTmrY2YG8W3xxTw@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <2103209105-1315744667-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-405375774-@b25.c19.bise6.blackberry>

So, friends, what do I win for my bold bid of 28K?:-)
Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry

-----Original Message-----
From: Jonathan Hodges <j-hodges at alumni.northwestern.edu>
Sender: nwu-sports-bounces at tssi.com
Date: Sun, 11 Sep 2011 00:36:26 
To: <AJWDBW at aol.com>
Cc: <nwu-sports at tssi.com>
Subject: Re: [NU Sports] attendance guess for EIU?

BTW, attendance today was 28,042 - the highest for an NU home opener since
2001, when NU played MSU for their home opener since the Navy game was
cancelled in the aftermath of 9/11 (it's also by far the highest for any
recent NU vs. FCS/I-AA game).

Jonathan

On Sat, Sep 10, 2011 at 10:19 AM, <AJWDBW at aol.com> wrote:

> Does anyone know the over/under?
> Don
>
>
> In a message dated 9/9/2011 4:30:23 P.M. Central Daylight Time,
> sportsbiz at gmail.com writes:
>
> I'll bid  30,050
> On Sep 9, 2011 4:48 PM, "Tom Maycock" <tkmaycock at yahoo.com>  wrote:
> > Oh hell, I'll be wildly enthusiastic:
> >
> >  32,503
> >
> > What's the prize for the winner?
> >
> >  Tom
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > ----- Original Message  -----
> >> From: "AJWDBW at aol.com" <AJWDBW at aol.com>
> >>  To: neonrye at aol.com; nolan at tssi.com;  nwu-sports-bounces at tssi.com;
> scottzel at gmail.com
> >> Cc:  nwu-sports at tssi.com
> >> Sent: Friday, September 9, 2011 3:35  PM
> >> Subject: Re: [NU Sports] attendance guess for  EIU?
> >>
> >> I'm in for 27,493.
> >> Don Williams  C55
> >>
> >>
> >> In a message dated 9/9/2011 3:15:44  P.M. Central Daylight Time,
> >> neonrye at aol.com  writes:
> >>
> >> I bid 28  K
> >>
> >>  _______________________________________________
> >> nwu-sports site  list
> >> nwu-sports at tssi.com
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> >>
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From sportsbiz at gmail.com  Sun Sep 11 11:22:48 2011
From: sportsbiz at gmail.com (Sportsbiz)
Date: Sun, 11 Sep 2011 12:22:48 -0400
Subject: [NU Sports] attendance guess for EIU?
In-Reply-To: <2103209105-1315744667-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-405375774-@b25.c19.bise6.blackberry>
References: <6dd38.440a5886.3b9ccbfe@aol.com>
 <CAAxRJu7__4XYqdY-wkMgavW0o2wCEOzo-ZktTmrY2YG8W3xxTw@mail.gmail.com>
 <2103209105-1315744667-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-405375774-@b25.c19.bise6.blackberry>
Message-ID: <CAPCH0EN0awQYLecNHqrPBgyAwnEadt8_ajE_qeZ8BppskFRe7g@mail.gmail.com>

The undying envy of your comrades for your prognostication skills, which
haven't been to in evidence in the pick-em contest.
Mark


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On Sun, Sep 11, 2011 at 8:38 AM, <neonrye at aol.com> wrote:

> So, friends, what do I win for my bold bid of 28K?:-)
> Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Jonathan Hodges <j-hodges at alumni.northwestern.edu>
> Sender: nwu-sports-bounces at tssi.com
> Date: Sun, 11 Sep 2011 00:36:26
> To: <AJWDBW at aol.com>
> Cc: <nwu-sports at tssi.com>
> Subject: Re: [NU Sports] attendance guess for EIU?
>
> BTW, attendance today was 28,042 - the highest for an NU home opener since
> 2001, when NU played MSU for their home opener since the Navy game was
> cancelled in the aftermath of 9/11 (it's also by far the highest for any
> recent NU vs. FCS/I-AA game).
>
> Jonathan
>
> On Sat, Sep 10, 2011 at 10:19 AM, <AJWDBW at aol.com> wrote:
>
> > Does anyone know the over/under?
> > Don
> >
> >
> > In a message dated 9/9/2011 4:30:23 P.M. Central Daylight Time,
> > sportsbiz at gmail.com writes:
> >
> > I'll bid  30,050
> > On Sep 9, 2011 4:48 PM, "Tom Maycock" <tkmaycock at yahoo.com>  wrote:
> > > Oh hell, I'll be wildly enthusiastic:
> > >
> > >  32,503
> > >
> > > What's the prize for the winner?
> > >
> > >  Tom
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > ----- Original Message  -----
> > >> From: "AJWDBW at aol.com" <AJWDBW at aol.com>
> > >>  To: neonrye at aol.com; nolan at tssi.com;  nwu-sports-bounces at tssi.com;
> > scottzel at gmail.com
> > >> Cc:  nwu-sports at tssi.com
> > >> Sent: Friday, September 9, 2011 3:35  PM
> > >> Subject: Re: [NU Sports] attendance guess for  EIU?
> > >>
> > >> I'm in for 27,493.
> > >> Don Williams  C55
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> In a message dated 9/9/2011 3:15:44  P.M. Central Daylight Time,
> > >> neonrye at aol.com  writes:
> > >>
> > >> I bid 28  K
> > >>
> > >>  _______________________________________________
> > >> nwu-sports site  list
> > >> nwu-sports at tssi.com
> > >>  http://romaine.tssi.com/mailman/listinfo/nwu-sports
> > >>
> > >
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> > >  http://romaine.tssi.com/mailman/listinfo/nwu-sports
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> >
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> >
> >
>
>
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From sportsbiz at gmail.com  Sun Sep 11 11:31:19 2011
From: sportsbiz at gmail.com (Sportsbiz)
Date: Sun, 11 Sep 2011 12:31:19 -0400
Subject: [NU Sports] odds
In-Reply-To: <CAAxRJu5F3ph4TH5fRkM2beS89Cf5r9HoqJp9TZePJBPAMO5pWQ@mail.gmail.com>
References: <c9e8.4a7a7abe.3b97bbdb@aol.com>
 <CAAxRJu5F3ph4TH5fRkM2beS89Cf5r9HoqJp9TZePJBPAMO5pWQ@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CAPCH0EO=NZ1CJphYZ=qRdHpaBDcK1H4SdJdyvmqVLjg2qkXaUQ@mail.gmail.com>

Not that it matters now, but the line in the Caribbean was 32.5 at game
time.



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On Tue, Sep 6, 2011 at 2:52 PM, Jonathan Hodges <
j-hodges at alumni.northwestern.edu> wrote:

> There are usually not lines for games against FCS (I-AA) teams out of Las
> Vegas (although some offshore sportsbooks may put out lines especially for
> the first game of the year); this is usually not done as there is far less
> information available to make well informed lines for the FBS vs. FCS games
> and things can get kind of crazy for the bookkeepers.
>
> Do note that Jeff Sagarin's computer ranking/score margin predictor does
> include FCS teams, and predicts NU to win by 28.92 points.  Another stat:
> NU
> has won it's last 4 games against FCS opponents by an average score of
> 36-6.
>
> Jonathan
>
> On Tue, Sep 6, 2011 at 2:09 PM, <MHRJGScott at aol.com> wrote:
>
> > Is there a line on the EI game, none listed in my paper.  I guess we
> > really put the hurt on BC, they are in Orlando to play Central Florida
> and
> > Momah
> > the big WR is out for the season and the QB is alll banged  up.
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From nolan at tssi.com  Sun Sep 11 13:42:09 2011
From: nolan at tssi.com (Mike Nolan)
Date: Sun, 11 Sep 2011 13:42:09 -0500 (CDT)
Subject: [NU Sports] attendance guess for EIU?
In-Reply-To: <2103209105-1315744667-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-405375774-@b25.c19.bise6.blackberry>
Message-ID: <20110911184210.0BCC764457@romaine.tssi.com>

> So, friends, what do I win for my bold bid of 28K?:-)

You win the right to submit the first guess at attendancd for the 
next home game.
--
Mike Nolan


From nolan at tssi.com  Tue Sep 13 16:26:52 2011
From: nolan at tssi.com (Mike Nolan)
Date: Tue, 13 Sep 2011 16:26:52 -0500 (CDT)
Subject: [NU Sports] Coke Rewards Points t-shirt offer
Message-ID: <20110913212652.60F2D61076@romaine.tssi.com>

Normally I don't promote commercial stuff a lot on the list, but 
Coca Cola has specially marked 20 and 24 packs right now, buy two of 
them, enter the codes online, and you can get a free T-shirt with the 
Northwestern logo on it.  (And presumably a Coke logo as well.)

They're only available in 2 sizes, Men XL and Women L.

The interesting part is that you still get the Coke Rewards points for
those codes.  Coke Rewards points, like airline points, seem to
require a gazillion points to get you something you don't want or
that isn't available 30 seconds after it goes up, but this one appears
to be an exception.

Most of the Big Ten schools are included in the offer, though not Nebraska,
probably because UNL has an exclusive contract with Pepsi.  
--
Mike Nolan


From hakirsch at aol.com  Tue Sep 13 16:28:48 2011
From: hakirsch at aol.com (hakirsch at aol.com)
Date: Tue, 13 Sep 2011 21:28:48 +0000
Subject: [NU Sports] Coke Rewards Points t-shirt offer
Message-ID: <1512493354-1315949328-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-81186612-@b4.c7.bise6.blackberry>

Thanks. As a coke addict,this should work well for me

Harry
------Original Message------
From: Mike Nolan
Sender: nwu-sports-bounces at tssi.com
To: nwu-sports at tssi.com
Subject: [NU Sports] Coke Rewards Points t-shirt offer
Sent: Sep 13, 2011 2:26 PM

Normally I don't promote commercial stuff a lot on the list, but 
Coca Cola has specially marked 20 and 24 packs right now, buy two of 
them, enter the codes online, and you can get a free T-shirt with the 
Northwestern logo on it.  (And presumably a Coke logo as well.)

They're only available in 2 sizes, Men XL and Women L.

The interesting part is that you still get the Coke Rewards points for
those codes.  Coke Rewards points, like airline points, seem to
require a gazillion points to get you something you don't want or
that isn't available 30 seconds after it goes up, but this one appears
to be an exception.

Most of the Big Ten schools are included in the offer, though not Nebraska,
probably because UNL has an exclusive contract with Pepsi.  
--
Mike Nolan

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nwu-sports site list
nwu-sports at tssi.com
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From MHRJGScott at aol.com  Tue Sep 13 18:51:35 2011
From: MHRJGScott at aol.com (MHRJGScott at aol.com)
Date: Tue, 13 Sep 2011 19:51:35 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: [NU Sports] no jail, a shame
Message-ID: <25691.2b3d2943.3ba14687@aol.com>

 
Mariotti pleads no contest to stalking, assault-related charges and being a 
 total Douchebag

From rstetson at capps-assoc.com  Tue Sep 13 19:51:27 2011
From: rstetson at capps-assoc.com (Roy S. Lamberton)
Date: Tue, 13 Sep 2011 20:51:27 -0400
Subject: [NU Sports] From the NFF - on the 10 second runoff.
Message-ID: <004f01cc7278$70270870$50751950$@com>

COLLEGE FOOTBALL OFFICIATING BY ROGERS REDDING, TODAY'S TOPIC: 10-SECOND RUNOFF


An important new rule in college football for 2011 is the 10-second runoff. This is a
special rule designed to prevent a team from gaining a clock advantage by committing a
foul near the end of a half. 

Here is how it works; suppose the game clock is running when either team commits a foul
that causes the clock to stop with less than one minute in the half. Part of the penalty
is to take 10 seconds off the clock, at the option of the offended team. They may want to
accept the yardage penalty and decline the 10-second runoff, and that is allowed. If the
yardage penalty is declined or if there are offsetting fouls then there is no 10-second
runoff. Also, if the team that commits the foul has any timeouts left they can avoid the
10-second runoff by burning a timeout. 

For example, with the clock running inside the last minute of the game, the offense is
about to snap the ball when one of its linemen jumps: false start, which stops the clock.
Suppose it shows 45 seconds left. If the defense chooses, 10 seconds will be taken off the
clock (in addition to the five-yard penalty), so the ball would be made ready for play
with 35 seconds left and the clock would start on the referee's signal. 

Note that if there had been fewer than 10 seconds left when the clock stopped then the
game would be over. 

Not all fouls include the runoff of time-only those that actually cause the clock to stop
immediately. For example, if a team snaps the ball from an illegal formation, there would
be no option to take time from the clock, because the play continues. The clock stops at
the end of the down only for administering the penalty. 

Periodically in Chalktalk, Rogers Redding, the national coordinator of College Football
Officiating, will provide insights about rules changes and the mindset of college football
referees. The CFO is the national professional organization for all football officials who
work games at the collegiate level.

++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
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Computer Applications & Support Associates
Coach Roy's Random Thoughts - http://coachroy.org
-------------------- Also ----------------------
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Director Media Relations - Little League 
  Senior League Softball World Series
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Northwestern University - Speech 1974 - 
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Publisher Emeritus: Purple Reign (Fox Sports)
================================================
Opinions expressed above are mine alone and are not
those of any organizations of which I am a member.
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down to vote on what is for dinner."

"You have a republic, madam, if you can keep it"
==========  Go Cats -? Beat 'em All  ===========





From sjtruog at yahoo.com  Wed Sep 14 02:05:45 2011
From: sjtruog at yahoo.com (SjT (Stephen J. Truog))
Date: Wed, 14 Sep 2011 00:05:45 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [NU Sports] PIGSKIN PICKS - Week 3
Message-ID: <1315983945.46450.YahooMailNeo@web121716.mail.ne1.yahoo.com>

No standings yet, but another great lineup of games. The Big Ones in the Big Ten have Sparty visiting an angry (well, angrier than usual given their coach's temper) Notre Dame and the "Ineligi-bowl" of Miami and Ohio State. Nationally, we have a couple other big games in the Sunshine State, the Beehive State battle two of football's more unpredictable teams meeting in the Auburn/Clemson game.

Picks due by kickoff SATURDAY!

NU PIGSKIN PICKS - WEEK 3

############################
Name:?

BIG TEN
=======
GAME 1: Arizona State @ Illinois
WINNER:?

GAME 2: South Carolina State @ Indiana
WINNER:?

GAME 3: Pittsburgh @ Iowa
WINNER:?

GAME 4: Eastern Michigan @ Michigan
WINNER:?

GAME 5: Michigan State @ Notre Dame
WINNER:?

GAME 6: Miami (Ohio) @ Minnesota
WINNER:?

GAME 7: Washington @ Nebraska
WINNER:?

GAME 8: Ohio State @ Miami (Florida)
WINNER:?

GAME 9: Penn State @ Temple
WINNER:?

GAME 10: SE Missouri State @ Purdue
WINNER:?

GAME 11: Northern Illinois vs. Wisconsin (@ Chicago, IL)
WINNER:?

NATIONAL
========
GAME 12: Auburn @ Clemson

WINNER:?

GAME 13: Tennessee @ Florida
WINNER:?

GAME 14: Utah @ Brigham Young
WINNER:?

GAME 15: Oklahoma @ Florida State
WINNER:?

MY PICKS
========
GAME 1: ARIZONA STATE ... Good game, but the Devils are ready to be a legit top 20 team
GAME 2: INDIANA ... They can't lose this one too, can they?
GAME 3: IOWA ... Tough game, but the Hog-eyes got their Lloyd Carr Memorial September Stinker out of the way
GAME 4: MICHIGAN ... No last-second heroics this week
GAME 5: MSU ... Tempted to go with the Irish (they can't go 0-3, can they?), but I want Sparty to win this!
GAME 6: MINNESOTA ... Miami's tough, but the Gophers rally for their coach
GAME 7: NEBRASKA ... The Huskers are at home and still remember the Holiday Bowl thumping.
GAME 8: MIAMI ... Not fair how OSU still has suspended players and Miami doesn't, but the Canes win the Cheater Bowl
GAME 9: PENN STATE ... No number of bad stops can stop the Lions against lowly Temple
GAME 10: PURDUE ... It won't come down to a last-second field goal this time at least
GAME 11: WISCONSIN ... Another big win for the Badgers
GAME 12: AUBURN ... Flip a coin, but Auburn is just charmed right now
GAME 13: FLORIDA ... Gators win this battle at home, ending all the "UT is back!" talk
GAME 14: BRIGHAM YOUNG ... Flip a coin with these two gutsy teams, but BYU is at home
GAME 15: OKLAHOMA ... FSU will make it closer, but OU rolls late for the win.

And off the board ...

* NORTHWESTERN 30, Army 20 - The Cats got a good ground game going last week and will need it against the disciplined academy defense. ?Eventually the Cats pull away and win another big NC game out east.

Picks due by Friday!
GO CATS!!!
-SjT
?
* * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *
STEPHEN J. TRUOG
sjtruog at yahoo.com
GO CATS!!! GEAUX SAINTS!!!
Super Bowl XLIV Champions!
________________________________

From sportsbiz at gmail.com  Wed Sep 14 10:09:13 2011
From: sportsbiz at gmail.com (Sportsbiz)
Date: Wed, 14 Sep 2011 11:09:13 -0400
Subject: [NU Sports] PIGSKIN PICKS - Week 3
In-Reply-To: <1315983945.46450.YahooMailNeo@web121716.mail.ne1.yahoo.com>
References: <1315983945.46450.YahooMailNeo@web121716.mail.ne1.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <CAPCH0EN_wiDtKFUmQ_+P5o9SgrpOUOJ1fwO_M_inT6Mb-jwTUg@mail.gmail.com>

*Mark S. Ament*
sportsbiz at gmail.com
SportsBiz - The Business of Sports
Illuminated<http://thesportsbizblog.blogspot.com>
When it comes to sports, you know it's all about the money
Follow me on Twitter <http://www.twitter.com/msament>


*
*



On Wed, Sep 14, 2011 at 3:05 AM, SjT (Stephen J. Truog)
<sjtruog at yahoo.com>wrote:

> No standings yet, but another great lineup of games. The Big Ones in the
> Big Ten have Sparty visiting an angry (well, angrier than usual given their
> coach's temper) Notre Dame and the "Ineligi-bowl" of Miami and Ohio State.
> Nationally, we have a couple other big games in the Sunshine State, the
> Beehive State battle two of football's more unpredictable teams meeting in
> the Auburn/Clemson game.
>
> Picks due by kickoff SATURDAY!
>
> NU PIGSKIN PICKS - WEEK 3
>
> ############################
> Name:
>
> BIG TEN
> =======
> GAME 1: Arizona State @ Illinois
> WINNER: ASU
>
> GAME 2: South Carolina State @ Indiana
> WINNER: IU
>
> GAME 3: Pittsburgh @ Iowa
> WINNER: Pitt
>
> GAME 4: Eastern Michigan @ Michigan
> WINNER: UM
>
> GAME 5: Michigan State @ Notre Dame
> WINNER: MSU
>
> GAME 6: Miami (Ohio) @ Minnesota
> WINNER: Minny
>
> GAME 7: Washington @ Nebraska
> WINNER: UNL (closer than people think)
>
> GAME 8: Ohio State @ Miami (Florida)
> WINNER: OSU
>
> GAME 9: Penn State @ Temple
> WINNER: PSU
>
> GAME 10: SE Missouri State @ Purdue
> WINNER: PU
>
> GAME 11: Northern Illinois vs. Wisconsin (@ Chicago, IL)
> WINNER: Wisky
>
> NATIONAL
> ========
> GAME 12: Auburn @ Clemson
>
> WINNER: AU
>


> GAME 13: Tennessee @ Florida
> WINNER: UF
>
> GAME 14: Utah @ Brigham Young
> WINNER: BYU
>
> GAME 15: Oklahoma @ Florida State
> WINNER: FSU
>
> MY PICKS
> ========
> GAME 1: ARIZONA STATE ... Good game, but the Devils are ready to be a legit
> top 20 team
> GAME 2: INDIANA ... They can't lose this one too, can they?
> GAME 3: IOWA ... Tough game, but the Hog-eyes got their Lloyd Carr Memorial
> September Stinker out of the way
> GAME 4: MICHIGAN ... No last-second heroics this week
> GAME 5: MSU ... Tempted to go with the Irish (they can't go 0-3, can
> they?), but I want Sparty to win this!
> GAME 6: MINNESOTA ... Miami's tough, but the Gophers rally for their coach
> GAME 7: NEBRASKA ... The Huskers are at home and still remember the Holiday
> Bowl thumping.
> GAME 8: MIAMI ... Not fair how OSU still has suspended players and Miami
> doesn't, but the Canes win the Cheater Bowl
> GAME 9: PENN STATE ... No number of bad stops can stop the Lions against
> lowly Temple
> GAME 10: PURDUE ... It won't come down to a last-second field goal this
> time at least
> GAME 11: WISCONSIN ... Another big win for the Badgers
> GAME 12: AUBURN ... Flip a coin, but Auburn is just charmed right now
> GAME 13: FLORIDA ... Gators win this battle at home, ending all the "UT is
> back!" talk
> GAME 14: BRIGHAM YOUNG ... Flip a coin with these two gutsy teams, but BYU
> is at home
> GAME 15: OKLAHOMA ... FSU will make it closer, but OU rolls late for the
> win.
>
> And off the board ...
>
> * NORTHWESTERN 30, Army 20 - The Cats got a good ground game going last
> week and will need it against the disciplined academy defense.  Eventually
> the Cats pull away and win another big NC game out east.
>
> Picks due by Friday!
> GO CATS!!!
> -SjT
>
> * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *
> STEPHEN J. TRUOG
> sjtruog at yahoo.com
> GO CATS!!! GEAUX SAINTS!!!
> Super Bowl XLIV Champions!
> ________________________________
> _______________________________________________
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> nwu-sports at tssi.com
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>

From sportsbiz at gmail.com  Wed Sep 14 10:38:38 2011
From: sportsbiz at gmail.com (Sportsbiz)
Date: Wed, 14 Sep 2011 11:38:38 -0400
Subject: [NU Sports] PIGSKIN PICKS - Week 3
In-Reply-To: <CAPCH0EN_wiDtKFUmQ_+P5o9SgrpOUOJ1fwO_M_inT6Mb-jwTUg@mail.gmail.com>
References: <1315983945.46450.YahooMailNeo@web121716.mail.ne1.yahoo.com>
 <CAPCH0EN_wiDtKFUmQ_+P5o9SgrpOUOJ1fwO_M_inT6Mb-jwTUg@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CAPCH0EMnT3A6xST2xh0tdU077Ut++T0SE9hQw6N3=yDRW9xKjQ@mail.gmail.com>

My apologies to all for sending my pciks to everyone.  I inadvertenly hit
the wrong button.  Didn't mean to clutter your inbox with poor picks.
Mark

Mark S. Ament
sportsbiz at gmail.com
SportsBiz - The Business of Sports
Illuminated<http://thesportsbizblog.blogspot.com>
When it comes to sports, you know it's all about the money
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From jleonard518 at yahoo.com  Sat Sep 17 08:52:55 2011
From: jleonard518 at yahoo.com (Jim Leonard)
Date: Sat, 17 Sep 2011 06:52:55 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [NU Sports] Game Day
Message-ID: <1316267575.70643.YahooMailNeo@web36807.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

Fellow Wildcat Faithful,

Today should be a great atmosphere at the high school on the Hudson. I haven't been to the West Point campus since the height of the cold war but it is both beautiful and historic. The ticket sales would indicate that there will be a huge purple crowd in attendance too. I think our large offensive line will wear the Black Knights down.?

Northwestern: 33
Army: 13

Victory & Honor,
Jim

From clzahn at mindspring.com  Sat Sep 17 10:15:00 2011
From: clzahn at mindspring.com (Clark Zahn)
Date: Sat, 17 Sep 2011 08:15:00 -0700
Subject: [NU Sports] Live from Sailgate
Message-ID: <4E74B974.3010400@mindspring.com>

Check out this posting on our rivals board.

http://northwestern.rivals.com/showmsg.asp?fid=57&tid=162962292&mid=162962292&sid=901&style=2


From jleonard518 at yahoo.com  Sat Sep 17 12:38:12 2011
From: jleonard518 at yahoo.com (Jim Leonard)
Date: Sat, 17 Sep 2011 10:38:12 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [NU Sports] BTN overflow channels?
Message-ID: <1316281092.3072.YahooMailNeo@web36805.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

Does anyone know what the deal is with Big Ten Network overflow channels outside of the Big Ten states? I'm specifically interested in Comcast service in Tennessee.?

I cannot find any reference to overflow channels on btn.com or comcast.com which is rather frustrating. Whoever update this information on the BTN.com website should be fired. This is probably THE ONLY detail that would ever drive someone to visit BTN.com.?

Right now I am watching the EMU v. Michigan game but I apparently don't have access to the Purdue game.

Go Cats!
Jim

From sjtruog at yahoo.com  Sat Sep 17 13:26:29 2011
From: sjtruog at yahoo.com (SjT (Stephen J. Truog))
Date: Sat, 17 Sep 2011 11:26:29 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [NU Sports] More conference shakeup reports ...
Message-ID: <1316283989.94274.YahooMailNeo@web121718.mail.ne1.yahoo.com>

Interesting news on ESPN this morning about Pitt/Syracuse applying for the ACC. Gut reactions ...

1) Whew. I'm glad it wasn't the Big Ten (neither brings much besides basketball and a long-gone tradition)
2) Surprised it's not the other way around ... it looked like the ACC was going to be carved up between the SEC and Big East
3) That's gonna be one heck of a basketball league (but still a crappy football league)

... and the biggie for us ...

4) The team with the biggest knot in their stomach right now (perhaps besides TCU, who may be joining a lame duck league)? Notre Dame.

Some thought the Big East absorbing the leftovers of the ACC from the SEC's devouring might finally give the league the backbone needed to say "all in or get out" to the "we get special treatment" Irish ... but some doubted even then they could bargain with the Evil Empire.

So if it's the other way around and the Big East crumbles like the Big XII, then the Irish are the ones left without a chair when the music stops. Unlike their egobrethren from Austin, they don't have a pseudo-network deal in place. They have NBC for football, but that's just for the one sport and might preclude them getting an offer for a pseudo-ESPN branding network for the sports other than football. And Texas has yet to figure out whether independence will work for the non-football sports, as ND realized.

Wanna bet someone's digging Jim Delaney's number out of the waste basket in South Bend just in case?

As for the football ... Iowa and PSU are in some serious trouble this morning. But the big three games are tonight ... MSU and OSU are underdogs on the road and the Illini have a chance to turn some heads when Sparky comes to town.

But first, GO CATS!!! Beat Army!!!
-SjT

* * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *
STEPHEN J. TRUOG
sjtruog at yahoo.com
GO CATS!!! GEAUX SAINTS!!!
Super Bowl XLIV Champions!
________________________________

From clzahn at mindspring.com  Sat Sep 17 14:05:20 2011
From: clzahn at mindspring.com (Clark Zahn)
Date: Sat, 17 Sep 2011 12:05:20 -0700
Subject: [NU Sports] BTN overflow channels?
In-Reply-To: <1316281092.3072.YahooMailNeo@web36805.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
References: <1316281092.3072.YahooMailNeo@web36805.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <4E74EF70.7050401@mindspring.com>

The problem is probably with Comcast.  They are notorious for not doing 
a good job of handling the overflow channels.


On 09/17/2011 10:38 AM, Jim Leonard wrote:
> Does anyone know what the deal is with Big Ten Network overflow channels outside of the Big Ten states? I'm specifically interested in Comcast service in Tennessee. 
>
> I cannot find any reference to overflow channels on btn.com or comcast.com which is rather frustrating. Whoever update this information on the BTN.com website should be fired. This is probably THE ONLY detail that would ever drive someone to visit BTN.com. 
>
> Right now I am watching the EMU v. Michigan game but I apparently don't have access to the Purdue game.
>
> Go Cats!
> Jim
> _______________________________________________
> nwu-sports site list
> nwu-sports at tssi.com
> http://romaine.tssi.com/mailman/listinfo/nwu-sports
>


From sjtruog at yahoo.com  Sat Sep 17 14:44:41 2011
From: sjtruog at yahoo.com (SjT (Stephen J. Truog))
Date: Sat, 17 Sep 2011 12:44:41 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [NU Sports] Purple Army ...
Message-ID: <1316288681.99605.YahooMailNeo@web121714.mail.ne1.yahoo.com>

Looks on TV like the entire end zone behind Army and much of the sideline stands are draped in PURPLE!!!

Guess we need more east-coast road games to satisfy the east-coast alumni.

GO CATS!!!
-SjT
?
* * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *
STEPHEN J. TRUOG
sjtruog at yahoo.com
GO CATS!!! GEAUX SAINTS!!!
Super Bowl XLIV Champions!
________________________________

From jleonard518 at yahoo.com  Sat Sep 17 15:44:16 2011
From: jleonard518 at yahoo.com (Jim Leonard)
Date: Sat, 17 Sep 2011 13:44:16 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [NU Sports] TD
Message-ID: <1316292256.79227.YahooMailNeo@web36807.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

It feels good to get on the board. Jeremy Ebert is a stud. That might be the best catch ever made in NU purple.

Was Trumpy benched in the 1st quarter?

Go Cats!
Jim

From hakirsch at aol.com  Sat Sep 17 16:01:06 2011
From: hakirsch at aol.com (hakirsch at aol.com)
Date: Sat, 17 Sep 2011 21:01:06 +0000
Subject: [NU Sports] Purple Army ...
In-Reply-To: <1316288681.99605.YahooMailNeo@web121714.mail.ne1.yahoo.com>
References: <1316288681.99605.YahooMailNeo@web121714.mail.ne1.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <1091103317-1316293341-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-1509162203-@b4.c7.bise6.blackberry>

Hurts missing a chip shot but I'm encouraged by Colter showing 2 dimensions and our D seems to be tightening up against the wishbone. But I wouldn't  mind these guys from West Point leading us militarily in the future
Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry

-----Original Message-----
From: "SjT \(Stephen J. Truog\)" <sjtruog at yahoo.com>
Sender: nwu-sports-bounces at tssi.com
Date: Sat, 17 Sep 2011 12:44:41 
To: NUSPORTS<nwu-sports at tssi.com>
Reply-To: "SjT \(Stephen J. Truog\)" <sjtruog at yahoo.com>
Subject: [NU Sports] Purple Army ...

Looks on TV like the entire end zone behind Army and much of the sideline stands are draped in PURPLE!!!

Guess we need more east-coast road games to satisfy the east-coast alumni.

GO CATS!!!
-SjT
?
* * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *
STEPHEN J. TRUOG
sjtruog at yahoo.com
GO CATS!!! GEAUX SAINTS!!!
Super Bowl XLIV Champions!
________________________________
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From sjtruog at yahoo.com  Sat Sep 17 16:21:47 2011
From: sjtruog at yahoo.com (SjT (Stephen J. Truog))
Date: Sat, 17 Sep 2011 14:21:47 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [NU Sports] First half ...
Message-ID: <1316294507.81077.YahooMailNeo@web121702.mail.ne1.yahoo.com>

I'll echo Jim's comments - amazing catch by Ebert!

That missed FG did hurt, though ... seemed like we were on our way for a late TD.

We gotta get some negative plays with the D on 1st and 2nd down so we can get off the field with a 3-and-out every once and awhile, or they're gonna start getting tired. I think the low blocks (or at least the fear of them) on the outside are getting in their heads as well as they seem to have their heads on a swivel looking for someone diving at their knees.

C'mon Cats - stuff 'em out of the gate and take the O down for six to start the half!
- SjT
?
* * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *
STEPHEN J. TRUOG
sjtruog at yahoo.com
GO CATS!!! GEAUX SAINTS!!!
Super Bowl XLIV Champions!
________________________________

From hakirsch at aol.com  Sat Sep 17 16:21:10 2011
From: hakirsch at aol.com (hakirsch at aol.com)
Date: Sat, 17 Sep 2011 21:21:10 +0000
Subject: [NU Sports] TD
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I think I spoke too soon about our D
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Date: Sat, 17 Sep 2011 13:44:16 
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Reply-To: Jim Leonard <jleonard518 at yahoo.com>
Subject: [NU Sports] TD

It feels good to get on the board. Jeremy Ebert is a stud. That might be the best catch ever made in NU purple.

Was Trumpy benched in the 1st quarter?

Go Cats!
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From sjtruog at yahoo.com  Sat Sep 17 16:26:03 2011
From: sjtruog at yahoo.com (SjT (Stephen J. Truog))
Date: Sat, 17 Sep 2011 14:26:03 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [NU Sports] TD
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Ugh - no kidding. :(

So they're replaying the goal line run now ... wonder why they didn't replay the Army 4th down conversion on their first drive. That one sure seemed close ... I know his body eventually was over the line after he rolled over the NU defender, but I thought his elbow and the ball touched the ground before he rolled over the defender.

Oh well, c'mon Cats!!!
- SjT
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Subject: Re: [NU Sports] TD

I think I spoke too soon about our D
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Subject: [NU Sports] TD

It feels good to get on the board. Jeremy Ebert is a stud. That might be the best catch ever made in NU purple.

Was Trumpy benched in the 1st quarter?

Go Cats!
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From jleonard518 at yahoo.com  Sat Sep 17 16:55:01 2011
From: jleonard518 at yahoo.com (Jim Leonard)
Date: Sat, 17 Sep 2011 14:55:01 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [NU Sports] Ref
Message-ID: <1316296501.68774.YahooMailNeo@web36801.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

A) that ref HATES us

B) That personal foul on #24 was %$@#!#!#!

Jim

From jintsjason at me.com  Sat Sep 17 16:59:09 2011
From: jintsjason at me.com (Jason Singer)
Date: Sat, 17 Sep 2011 14:59:09 -0700
Subject: [NU Sports] Ref
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And this announce team is worse than the ND announce team. Cross has always been a homer, but Gary Thorne knows NOTHING about the game and just keeps saying how great the Army team plays. Ugh!

Jason Singer
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jason at jasonsinger.com




On Sep 17, 2011, at 2:55 PM, Jim Leonard wrote:

> A) that ref HATES us
> 
> B) That personal foul on #24 was %$@#!#!#!
> 
> Jim
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From yevb0 at alumni.northwestern.edu  Sat Sep 17 17:10:15 2011
From: yevb0 at alumni.northwestern.edu (Evan Bradley)
Date: Sat, 17 Sep 2011 18:10:15 -0400
Subject: [NU Sports] Ref
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I do not claim to be knowledgeable on the finer points of the
rulebook, but is the top rim of the helmet not part of the facemask?

On Sat, Sep 17, 2011 at 5:59 PM, Jason Singer <jintsjason at me.com> wrote:
> And this announce team is worse than the ND announce team. Cross has always been a homer, but Gary Thorne knows NOTHING about the game and just keeps saying how great the Army team plays. Ugh!
>
> Jason Singer
> jintsjason at me.com
> jason at jasonsinger.com
>
>
>
>
> On Sep 17, 2011, at 2:55 PM, Jim Leonard wrote:
>
>> A) that ref HATES us
>>
>> B) That personal foul on #24 was %$@#!#!#!
>>
>> Jim
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From hakirsch at aol.com  Sat Sep 17 17:24:38 2011
From: hakirsch at aol.com (hakirsch at aol.com)
Date: Sat, 17 Sep 2011 22:24:38 +0000
Subject: [NU Sports] Ref
In-Reply-To: <CACBF6gSDTJO56XB7uEBKBi5ptcybe0qzo+y_jK9rrX_VFPzd1w@mail.gmail.com>
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who is this QB ?  where has he been ?  Great TD. Go Cats 
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Date: Sat, 17 Sep 2011 18:10:15 
To: Northwestern Wildcats<nwu-sports at tssi.com>
Subject: Re: [NU Sports] Ref

I do not claim to be knowledgeable on the finer points of the
rulebook, but is the top rim of the helmet not part of the facemask?

On Sat, Sep 17, 2011 at 5:59 PM, Jason Singer <jintsjason at me.com> wrote:
> And this announce team is worse than the ND announce team. Cross has always been a homer, but Gary Thorne knows NOTHING about the game and just keeps saying how great the Army team plays. Ugh!
>
> Jason Singer
> jintsjason at me.com
> jason at jasonsinger.com
>
>
>
>
> On Sep 17, 2011, at 2:55 PM, Jim Leonard wrote:
>
>> A) that ref HATES us
>>
>> B) That personal foul on #24 was %$@#!#!#!
>>
>> Jim
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From hakirsch at aol.com  Sat Sep 17 17:27:33 2011
From: hakirsch at aol.com (hakirsch at aol.com)
Date: Sat, 17 Sep 2011 22:27:33 +0000
Subject: [NU Sports] Ref
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Can't let the Cadets chew clock while they try to move down the field for a go ahead score. We have to gamble on D by overplaying the inside
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who is this QB ?  where has he been ?  Great TD. Go Cats 
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-----Original Message-----
From: Evan Bradley <yevb0 at alumni.northwestern.edu>
Sender: nwu-sports-bounces at tssi.com
Date: Sat, 17 Sep 2011 18:10:15 
To: Northwestern Wildcats<nwu-sports at tssi.com>
Subject: Re: [NU Sports] Ref

I do not claim to be knowledgeable on the finer points of the
rulebook, but is the top rim of the helmet not part of the facemask?

On Sat, Sep 17, 2011 at 5:59 PM, Jason Singer <jintsjason at me.com> wrote:
> And this announce team is worse than the ND announce team. Cross has always been a homer, but Gary Thorne knows NOTHING about the game and just keeps saying how great the Army team plays. Ugh!
>
> Jason Singer
> jintsjason at me.com
> jason at jasonsinger.com
>
>
>
>
> On Sep 17, 2011, at 2:55 PM, Jim Leonard wrote:
>
>> A) that ref HATES us
>>
>> B) That personal foul on #24 was %$@#!#!#!
>>
>> Jim
>> _______________________________________________
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From jleonard518 at yahoo.com  Sat Sep 17 17:39:56 2011
From: jleonard518 at yahoo.com (Jim Leonard)
Date: Sat, 17 Sep 2011 15:39:56 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [NU Sports] Come on Trevor
Message-ID: <1316299196.29274.YahooMailNeo@web36805.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

I really don't understand the use of timeouts there. Oh well. Here's hoping that Trevor can find Jeremy Ebert again.

Best case now is that we get OT. Fitz will not go for two if we score.

Victory & Honor,
Jim

From sjtruog at yahoo.com  Sat Sep 17 17:46:14 2011
From: sjtruog at yahoo.com (SjT (Stephen J. Truog))
Date: Sat, 17 Sep 2011 15:46:14 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [NU Sports] I'm putting this one on the coaches ...
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The D was embarrassed - especially on that last scoring drive.

The O play calling on our last drive - especially 4th and 1 - was poor. There was plenty of time for a drive and we mucked it up.

Ebert played a heck of a game, but the rest of the team didn't look ready.

If nothing else, this will end the talk of any QB controversy - we need Persa back.

Lots of work to do in the off week - this one stings.

GO CATS!!!
-SjT
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GO CATS!!! GEAUX SAINTS!!!
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From tbng at comcast.net  Sat Sep 17 17:46:28 2011
From: tbng at comcast.net (Dennis W. Brandt)
Date: Sat, 17 Sep 2011 18:46:28 -0400
Subject: [NU Sports] Disheartening
Message-ID: <825491273BCA4C3FBAB5D1F33CEAC3FB@dennismachine>

We scored 14 points against Army?  How is that possible?  OK, I get the difficulties of the triple option.  But we couldn't score against that defense?  They outplayed us.  This is worse the Miami of Ohio loss in '95.

From jintsjason at me.com  Sat Sep 17 17:49:51 2011
From: jintsjason at me.com (Jason Singer)
Date: Sat, 17 Sep 2011 15:49:51 -0700
Subject: [NU Sports] I'm putting this one on the coaches ...
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I don't know why they didn't swap those calls. The 3rd down play should have been the outside pass and the 4th down call should have been Trumpy or Schmidt. Bizarre all around.

sigh.


Jason Singer
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jason at jasonsinger.com




On Sep 17, 2011, at 3:46 PM, SjT (Stephen J. Truog) wrote:

> The D was embarrassed - especially on that last scoring drive.
> 
> The O play calling on our last drive - especially 4th and 1 - was poor. There was plenty of time for a drive and we mucked it up.
> 
> Ebert played a heck of a game, but the rest of the team didn't look ready.
> 
> If nothing else, this will end the talk of any QB controversy - we need Persa back.
> 
> Lots of work to do in the off week - this one stings.
> 
> GO CATS!!!
> -SjT
>  
> * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *
> STEPHEN J. TRUOG
> sjtruog at yahoo.com
> GO CATS!!! GEAUX SAINTS!!!
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From bwdolphin146 at yahoo.com  Sat Sep 17 17:58:26 2011
From: bwdolphin146 at yahoo.com (Brad Wilson)
Date: Sat, 17 Sep 2011 15:58:26 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [NU Sports] Well,
	now that NU's obligatory awful loss out of its system ...
Message-ID: <1316300306.90045.YahooMailNeo@web114708.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>

11-1 anybody?

bw

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"Stupidity is infinitely more fascinating than intelligence. Intelligence has its limits while stupidity has none. To observe a profoundly stupid individual can be very enriching, and that's why we should never feel contempt for them." -- Claude Chabrol (1930-2010)


"But to provoke -- in the good sense -- is the performer's role. It's not just to give one more concert. That's not culture. That"s marketing." -- Pierre Boulez


"Quis ipsos custodes custodiet?" -- Juvenal

From sjtruog at yahoo.com  Sat Sep 17 18:17:56 2011
From: sjtruog at yahoo.com (SjT (Stephen J. Truog))
Date: Sat, 17 Sep 2011 16:17:56 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [NU Sports] Well,
	now that NU's obligatory awful loss out of its system ...
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I had thought (hoped) that those were out of our system. Ugh! Army wanted it more today and deserved it - we've got a lot of work to do and need Persa back.

11-1? Well, looking around the league ...

- WISCONSIN rolls again. I still have no idea why Big XII teams are so overrated and the Big Ten's top team is so underrated. They should be in the top 5.
- NEBRASKA rolls, but their defense has not looked as dominant as advertised so far this year.
- IOWA flips the script and gets the thrilling comeback win instead of being come back on by NU ... has Ferentz changed styles?
- PSU survives a trap game like our Army game ... it was ugly, but a W
- MSU looked awful in South Bend despite the Irish continuing to give away the ball, that fake FG call was boneheaded
- MICHIGAN rebounded from a sluggish start ... Hoke's team might not fall apart like Rich Rods
- PURDUE finally rolled over a creampuff ... can they save some of those points for the Notre Dame game?
- MINNY and INDY got wins, which is good because they probably won't see another

And ILLINOIS is starting strong against Sparky here - we're gonna have a tough time stopping them with the way our D played, so we'll need Persa power on the offense to win a shootout.

Lots to work on before we can even talk 3-1 - time to shake it off and regroup.

GO CATS!!
-SjT
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STEPHEN J. TRUOG
sjtruog at yahoo.com
GO CATS!!! GEAUX SAINTS!!!
Super Bowl XLIV Champions!

From bwdolphin146 at yahoo.com  Sat Sep 17 18:29:22 2011
From: bwdolphin146 at yahoo.com (Brad Wilson)
Date: Sat, 17 Sep 2011 16:29:22 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [NU Sports] the problem is the defense
Message-ID: <1316302162.83530.YahooMailNeo@web114704.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>

An offense with Persa will move the ball.

But the defense gives up 'way too much ground yards, and I don't want to hear excuses about the damn option. This bunch will struggle to stop a decent BT run attack -- period. Who's the next Mikel Leshoure (thank God he turned pro)?

Thank God I had to work and wasn't at this disaster.;

bw




 

"Stupidity is infinitely more fascinating than intelligence. Intelligence has its limits while stupidity has none. To observe a profoundly stupid individual can be very enriching, and that's why we should never feel contempt for them." -- Claude Chabrol (1930-2010)


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From hakirsch at aol.com  Sat Sep 17 18:30:37 2011
From: hakirsch at aol.com (hakirsch at aol.com)
Date: Sat, 17 Sep 2011 23:30:37 +0000
Subject: [NU Sports] I'm putting this one on the coaches ...
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Absolutely agree with Jason on the last few play calls but Dennis is way off on this being a worse loss that the Miami loss in '95. Weren't we up by 3 or 4 TD's then before blowing it ?  We were never ahead today though should have been at the half.  

Definitely a tough loss and one that probably has to be pinned on the coaches and a horrible ref call on the late hit

I eat a bunch of crow suggesting we squeeze the inside on Armys last drive. We did and got burnt for it
Harry
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Subject: Re: [NU Sports] I'm putting this one on the coaches ...

I don't know why they didn't swap those calls. The 3rd down play should have been the outside pass and the 4th down call should have been Trumpy or Schmidt. Bizarre all around.

sigh.


Jason Singer
jintsjason at me.com
jason at jasonsinger.com




On Sep 17, 2011, at 3:46 PM, SjT (Stephen J. Truog) wrote:

> The D was embarrassed - especially on that last scoring drive.
> 
> The O play calling on our last drive - especially 4th and 1 - was poor. There was plenty of time for a drive and we mucked it up.
> 
> Ebert played a heck of a game, but the rest of the team didn't look ready.
> 
> If nothing else, this will end the talk of any QB controversy - we need Persa back.
> 
> Lots of work to do in the off week - this one stings.
> 
> GO CATS!!!
> -SjT
>  
> * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *
> STEPHEN J. TRUOG
> sjtruog at yahoo.com
> GO CATS!!! GEAUX SAINTS!!!
> Super Bowl XLIV Champions!
> ________________________________
> _______________________________________________
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From Jeff.Beamsley at covisint.com  Sat Sep 17 19:07:07 2011
From: Jeff.Beamsley at covisint.com (Beamsley, Jeff)
Date: Sat, 17 Sep 2011 20:07:07 -0400
Subject: [NU Sports] Disheartening
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You must have a short memory.
 
The Miami loss was the second game of the '95 season after the team shocked ND.  Virtually all of the starters on an upperclassman-heavy team played the whole game.  They pretty much controlled the game and lost on a late blocked punt that Miami turned into a score.  This team went on to win the big ten and be ranked as high as #3 in the country.  This loss prevented a perfect regular season and the potential to play for a national championship.  It was the best season since the Otto Graham years.
 
The loss this week to Army was picked by many as a potential upset.  We were starting a rookie QB with a hurt shoulder.  The Army D was daring us to pass, but Coulter couldn't complete anything.  Army time of possession was ridiculous.  By the end of the game our D was gassed.  We still hung in there and had our chances, but just didn't have the experience at QB to pull it off.  
 
I'm disappointed, but not surprised.  Hopefully Persa is on the field for Illinois and Coulter's shoulder feels better or else you are likely to see a similar game.
 
As far as the worst loss, clearly Miami is it at least for the regular season until NU has another one loss season.  Unfortunately I don't think this season will be one of those.
 
Jeff

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Sent: Sat 9/17/2011 6:46 PM
To: nwu-sports at tssi.com
Subject: [NU Sports] Disheartening



We scored 14 points against Army?  How is that possible?  OK, I get the difficulties of the triple option.  But we couldn't score against that defense?  They outplayed us.  This is worse the Miami of Ohio loss in '95.
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From tmcadams at yahoo.com  Sat Sep 17 20:45:48 2011
From: tmcadams at yahoo.com (Trey McAdams)
Date: Sat, 17 Sep 2011 18:45:48 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [NU Sports] I'm putting this one on the coaches ...
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It was the 3rd down that killed them.? Should have kept throwing the ball.



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Subject: [NU Sports] I'm putting this one on the coaches ...

The D was embarrassed - especially on that last scoring drive.

The O play calling on our last drive - especially 4th and 1 - was poor. There was plenty of time for a drive and we mucked it up.

Ebert played a heck of a game, but the rest of the team didn't look ready.

If nothing else, this will end the talk of any QB controversy - we need Persa back.

Lots of work to do in the off week - this one stings.

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From neonrye at aol.com  Sat Sep 17 20:52:48 2011
From: neonrye at aol.com (neonrye at aol.com)
Date: Sun, 18 Sep 2011 01:52:48 +0000
Subject: [NU Sports] Disheartening
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I was at game--sitting in front of Bryce McNaul's dad and Jeremy Ebert's grandparents.   Both played well.  Ebert's Grandpa missed second TD for bathroom run.:-)

Very disheartening that after late comeback TD, defense finally crumbled.  Army did amazingly well on first down most of the game.  They outplayed us and deserved to win, as much as I hate to admit it.

Our crowd was large and loud at times, but candidly I think we had more passion and were more of a factor at BC game.  Someone said to me he thought that was because there were (more) NU students ar BC, because classes hadn't yet started.

 Trevor Sieman looks like a keeper.  Better size than Dan or Kain, and big gun.  Ebert's grandpa said that Jeremy told him Trvor throws best pass of all of our QBs, and McNaul's dad was impressed by how fast he threw one pass.

Finally, West Point is amazing place to experience college FB--from parade of cadets to skydiving to cannons booming when Army scores.  As much as I hated to lose, at least it was to a great institution we can be proud of.  West Point is a very special, physically magnificent place.   And let me tell you,  the cadets know how to celebrate a score and enjoy a win. 

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You must have a short memory.
 
The Miami loss was the second game of the '95 season after the team shocked ND.  Virtually all of the starters on an upperclassman-heavy team played the whole game.  They pretty much controlled the game and lost on a late blocked punt that Miami turned into a score.  This team went on to win the big ten and be ranked as high as #3 in the country.  This loss prevented a perfect regular season and the potential to play for a national championship.  It was the best season since the Otto Graham years.
 
The loss this week to Army was picked by many as a potential upset.  We were starting a rookie QB with a hurt shoulder.  The Army D was daring us to pass, but Coulter couldn't complete anything.  Army time of possession was ridiculous.  By the end of the game our D was gassed.  We still hung in there and had our chances, but just didn't have the experience at QB to pull it off.  
 
I'm disappointed, but not surprised.  Hopefully Persa is on the field for Illinois and Coulter's shoulder feels better or else you are likely to see a similar game.
 
As far as the worst loss, clearly Miami is it at least for the regular season until NU has another one loss season.  Unfortunately I don't think this season will be one of those.
 
Jeff

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We scored 14 points against Army?  How is that possible?  OK, I get the difficulties of the triple option.  But we couldn't score against that defense?  They outplayed us.  This is worse the Miami of Ohio loss in '95.
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From bwdolphin146 at yahoo.com  Sun Sep 18 00:34:06 2011
From: bwdolphin146 at yahoo.com (Brad Wilson)
Date: Sat, 17 Sep 2011 22:34:06 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [NU Sports] hank must go?
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We ready for that yet? Hank Cheese? Thoughts? (I lean towards yes)

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From nolan at tssi.com  Sun Sep 18 01:51:13 2011
From: nolan at tssi.com (Mike Nolan)
Date: Sun, 18 Sep 2011 01:51:13 -0500 (CDT)
Subject: [NU Sports] hank must go?
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> We ready for that yet? Hank Cheese? Thoughts? (I lean towards yes)

Thankfully, fans don't make that kind of decision.  

Army was #2 in rushing offense for a reason.  

I was less impressed with the offensive game plan than the
defensive one.  We will need to be able to score more than 14
points in a game if we want to make it to a bowl game.

Let's hope that Persa is ready for Illinois in two weeks, their 
rushing game may not be easy to stop, either.  
--
Mike Nolan


From jleonard518 at yahoo.com  Sun Sep 18 09:58:18 2011
From: jleonard518 at yahoo.com (Jim Leonard)
Date: Sun, 18 Sep 2011 07:58:18 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [NU Sports] hank must go?
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I agree with Mike. Our spread offense should be productive enough to win any game where the defense holds an opponent to 21 points. I was frustrated that we didn't have a better attack on defense but that did not cost us the game.

Who decided after BC and EIU that Kain should throw 20+ yards downfield 6-7??
Where was Mike Trumpy in the first quarter??

I realize that I am saying this as a fan and not a coach but I thought we should have tried one quick shot to the end zone before the half (when we attempted a field goal). I'm pretty sure we could have gotten a play off in 4 seconds and still had 1-2 ticks on the clock for the field goal if the pass was incomplete.?

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Subject: Re: [NU Sports] hank must go?

> We ready for that yet? Hank Cheese? Thoughts? (I lean towards yes)

Thankfully, fans don't make that kind of decision.? 

Army was #2 in rushing offense for a reason.? 

I was less impressed with the offensive game plan than the
defensive one.? We will need to be able to score more than 14
points in a game if we want to make it to a bowl game.

Let's hope that Persa is ready for Illinois in two weeks, their 
rushing game may not be easy to stop, either.? 
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From hakirsch at aol.com  Sun Sep 18 10:08:21 2011
From: hakirsch at aol.com (hakirsch at aol.com)
Date: Sun, 18 Sep 2011 15:08:21 +0000
Subject: [NU Sports] hank must go?
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An fyi is that BC lost at home  to Duke yesterday. Makes me wonder about their quality this year

Harry
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Subject: Re: [NU Sports] hank must go?

I agree with Mike. Our spread offense should be productive enough to win any game where the defense holds an opponent to 21 points. I was frustrated that we didn't have a better attack on defense but that did not cost us the game.

Who decided after BC and EIU that Kain should throw 20+ yards downfield 6-7??
Where was Mike Trumpy in the first quarter??

I realize that I am saying this as a fan and not a coach but I thought we should have tried one quick shot to the end zone before the half (when we attempted a field goal). I'm pretty sure we could have gotten a play off in 4 seconds and still had 1-2 ticks on the clock for the field goal if the pass was incomplete.?

Jim?


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Subject: Re: [NU Sports] hank must go?

> We ready for that yet? Hank Cheese? Thoughts? (I lean towards yes)

Thankfully, fans don't make that kind of decision.? 

Army was #2 in rushing offense for a reason.? 

I was less impressed with the offensive game plan than the
defensive one.? We will need to be able to score more than 14
points in a game if we want to make it to a bowl game.

Let's hope that Persa is ready for Illinois in two weeks, their 
rushing game may not be easy to stop, either.? 
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From neonrye at aol.com  Sun Sep 18 10:42:44 2011
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Date: Sun, 18 Sep 2011 15:42:44 +0000
Subject: [NU Sports] hank must go?
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I have to take issue to some degree with the sentiments expressed that all will be copacetic if and when Dan Persa takes his first snap.  Let's not expect too much from him if he returns at Illinois.  He will have to shake off the rust and will be less mobile in any event.  As great as he was (is?), he should not be viewed as the panacea for all of the ills exposed yesterday--questionable calls at crucial moments, poor execution by much of team, getting beat in the trenches, and seeming lack of passion, focus and commitment for long stretches. 

 This was worst non-conf performance since loss up at Syracuse--and could cost 'Cats big-time in hunt for bowl slot in December.  The road just got much steeper, and the margin for error much narrower.  My only consoling thought today was that I really questioned whether we would qin opener at BC, and thus was figuring 2-1 as likely outcome of first three games.  We are there now, but not in manner that I foresaw.  And who knew that Eagles would be so weak, as evidenced by their 0-3 start?


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An fyi is that BC lost at home  to Duke yesterday. Makes me wonder about their quality this year

Harry
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Subject: Re: [NU Sports] hank must go?

I agree with Mike. Our spread offense should be productive enough to win any game where the defense holds an opponent to 21 points. I was frustrated that we didn't have a better attack on defense but that did not cost us the game.

Who decided after BC and EIU that Kain should throw 20+ yards downfield 6-7??
Where was Mike Trumpy in the first quarter??

I realize that I am saying this as a fan and not a coach but I thought we should have tried one quick shot to the end zone before the half (when we attempted a field goal). I'm pretty sure we could have gotten a play off in 4 seconds and still had 1-2 ticks on the clock for the field goal if the pass was incomplete.?

Jim?


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Subject: Re: [NU Sports] hank must go?

> We ready for that yet? Hank Cheese? Thoughts? (I lean towards yes)

Thankfully, fans don't make that kind of decision.? 

Army was #2 in rushing offense for a reason.? 

I was less impressed with the offensive game plan than the
defensive one.? We will need to be able to score more than 14
points in a game if we want to make it to a bowl game.

Let's hope that Persa is ready for Illinois in two weeks, their 
rushing game may not be easy to stop, either.? 
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From sjtruog at yahoo.com  Sun Sep 18 11:02:52 2011
From: sjtruog at yahoo.com (SjT (Stephen J. Truog))
Date: Sun, 18 Sep 2011 09:02:52 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [NU Sports] hank must go?
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I agree with Jim and Mike ...

On the question of firing Hank, the answer is a solid NO. He has done much more positive overall than any DC we've had since Vandy. And while that last drive wasn't his finest hour, Army is one of those offenses that is tough to prepare for and we held them to 21 points. I think our kids could have been a little better prepared and more adjustments ... but I really think after some early dings and bruises, we were extra-conscious of those legal-but-still-cheap low blocks at the knees on the edges (kind of like the Air Force gams) and it got in our head.

I have more ire at McCall -- 14 points on Army's D??? We need to find out how to sustain a drive - our play calling was all over the map. There was one possession in the 3rd where we took three straight deep shots down the field. Go ahead and take 1 to stretch the D, but when you're chucking it 20+ yards three straight plays with a QB who, despite many strengths, doesn't throw the greatest deep ball ... well, then you're just handing it back to Army's O and giving our D no rest. The O looked fine until they put a spy on Kain - then, once again, we didn't make any adjustment except chucking it deep more and hoping Jeremy Ebert makes another amazing catch. And?Jim's right about before the half as well - clock management by the O!

So like I said, I'm pointing fingers at the coaches here -- poor preparation and lack of adjustments. But I certainly don't want Hank gone and more of that ire is at McCall for only 14 points.

As for going all doom and gloom, I think we're overreacting a bit there. This is NOT the Miami loss of 1995 (though I wouldn't mind if it worked out like that one afterwards) ... it's not as bad as losses between against Syracuse, Duke, New Hampshire or others.

We started the year 2-1. Like I said, I hoped those days were over, but considering our best player is out and 2 of the 3 were on the road, 2-1 isn't sky-is-falling bad. Disappointing? Yes. But not clean-house bad. As we've been over many times - NU is not the type of team that can come out and win the creampuffs on name alone -- we can beat just about anyone when we're on and lose to just about anyone when we're off. Yesterday was uninspired by the players and featured poor planning/adjustments from the coaches -- add that to an Army team that will play hard on every snap and wanted it more at home and you get the recipe for a September loss.

We've got a week off to get Persa healthy and get ready for Illinois, who will probably be 4-0 and in the top 25. If they can't use two weeks to prepare better, get the team motivated for a rival who smacked them around last year AND come up with better in-game adjustments, THEN we can talk about a coach's future.

This one stings, but let's not overreact either.

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From: Jim Leonard <jleonard518 at yahoo.com>
To: Northwestern Wildcats <nwu-sports at tssi.com>
Sent: Sunday, September 18, 2011 7:58 AM
Subject: Re: [NU Sports] hank must go?

I agree with Mike. Our spread offense should be productive enough to win any game where the defense holds an opponent to 21 points. I was frustrated that we didn't have a better attack on defense but that did not cost us the game.

Who decided after BC and EIU that Kain should throw 20+ yards downfield 6-7??
Where was Mike Trumpy in the first quarter??

I realize that I am saying this as a fan and not a coach but I thought we should have tried one quick shot to the end zone before the half (when we attempted a field goal). I'm pretty sure we could have gotten a play off in 4 seconds and still had 1-2 ticks on the clock for the field goal if the pass was incomplete.?

Jim?


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Sent: Sunday, September 18, 2011 2:51 AM
Subject: Re: [NU Sports] hank must go?

> We ready for that yet? Hank Cheese? Thoughts? (I lean towards yes)

Thankfully, fans don't make that kind of decision.? 

Army was #2 in rushing offense for a reason.? 

I was less impressed with the offensive game plan than the
defensive one.? We will need to be able to score more than 14
points in a game if we want to make it to a bowl game.

Let's hope that Persa is ready for Illinois in two weeks, their 
rushing game may not be easy to stop, either.? 
--
Mike Nolan

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From nolan at tssi.com  Sun Sep 18 12:04:44 2011
From: nolan at tssi.com (Mike Nolan)
Date: Sun, 18 Sep 2011 12:04:44 -0500 (CDT)
Subject: [NU Sports] hank must go?
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> I have to take issue to some degree with the sentiments expressed that all 
> will be copacetic if and when Dan Persa takes his first snap.  Let's not expect
> too much from him if he returns at Illinois.  He will have to shake off
> the rust and will be less mobile in any event.  As great as he was (is?),
>  he should not be viewed as the panacea for all of the ills exposed yesterday
> --questionable calls at crucial moments, poor execution by much of team, 
> getting beat in the trenches, and seeming lack of passion, focus and 
> committment for long stretches. 

They weren't so much questionable calls as poor execution and perhaps a
less than perfect understanding of the talent on the field.   It appears
Colter doesn't have the long distance accuracy for the kind of calls they 
were sending in, especially in the 2nd half, even though he pulled a few of 
them off.  Maybe they were hoping he'd grow into the role, or they've
seen things in practice that weren't evident yesterday.  

Persa does, or at least he did last year.  I agree that he could be very
rusty at first, assuming he's 100% recovered, but at least his favorite 
targets, like Ebert, seem ready.  

Illinois was already looking like a tough conference opening game no matter 
who starts at QB for us.  They're likely to be a bigger force in the 2011 
conference race than Penn State and possibly even Ohio State.  The suspensions 
and departures are starting to show there, and the hard part of their season 
is just starting.  And this year I think JoePa might not be able to
deflect Graham Spanier's desire to force him out.  

2-1 seems to be about our norm for the first three games, and about half of
the time it seems we win one game most people thought we would lose and
lose one game everyone assumed we would win.   
--
Mike Nolan


From DPENDERG at aol.com  Sun Sep 18 13:39:23 2011
From: DPENDERG at aol.com (DPENDERG at aol.com)
Date: Sun, 18 Sep 2011 14:39:23 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: [NU Sports] hank must go?
Message-ID: <58401.1fbb0781.3ba794db@aol.com>

All of this finger pointing at coordinators forces me to emphasize that the 
 buck stops with the head coach when it comes to this embarrassing loss at 
West  Point yesterday.  The Cats were poorly prepared, lethargic and 
executed  haphazardly.  I put all of it on the shoulders of Fitz, who failed to  
get his coaches and players ready for a very winnable game. I hope  this game 
will be a wakeup call for the coaches and players.  Playing like  they did 
yesterday and the Cats will have trouble winning most of their Big Ten  games 
this season.  
 
 
In a message dated 9/18/2011 12:03:10 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,  
sjtruog at yahoo.com writes:

I agree  with Jim and Mike ...

On the question of firing Hank, the answer is a  solid NO. He has done much 
more positive overall than any DC we've had since  Vandy. And while that 
last drive wasn't his finest hour, Army is one of those  offenses that is 
tough to prepare for and we held them to 21 points. I think  our kids could have 
been a little better prepared and more adjustments ... but  I really think 
after some early dings and bruises, we were extra-conscious of  those 
legal-but-still-cheap low blocks at the knees on the edges (kind of like  the Air 
Force gams) and it got in our head.

I have more ire at McCall  -- 14 points on Army's D??? We need to find out 
how to sustain a drive - our  play calling was all over the map. There was 
one possession in the 3rd where  we took three straight deep shots down the 
field. Go ahead and take 1 to  stretch the D, but when you're chucking it 20+ 
yards three straight plays with  a QB who, despite many strengths, doesn't 
throw the greatest deep ball ...  well, then you're just handing it back to 
Army's O and giving our D no rest.  The O looked fine until they put a spy 
on Kain - then, once again, we didn't  make any adjustment except chucking it 
deep more and hoping Jeremy Ebert makes  another amazing catch. And Jim's 
right about before the half as well -  clock management by the O!

So like I said, I'm pointing fingers at the  coaches here -- poor 
preparation and lack of adjustments. But I certainly  don't want Hank gone and more 
of that ire is at McCall for only 14  points.

As for going all doom and gloom, I think we're overreacting a  bit there. 
This is NOT the Miami loss of 1995 (though I wouldn't mind if it  worked out 
like that one afterwards) ... it's not as bad as losses between  against 
Syracuse, Duke, New Hampshire or others.

We started the year  2-1. Like I said, I hoped those days were over, but 
considering our best  player is out and 2 of the 3 were on the road, 2-1 isn't 
sky-is-falling bad.  Disappointing? Yes. But not clean-house bad. As we've 
been over many times -  NU is not the type of team that can come out and win 
the creampuffs on name  alone -- we can beat just about anyone when we're 
on and lose to just about  anyone when we're off. Yesterday was uninspired by 
the players and featured  poor planning/adjustments from the coaches -- add 
that to an Army team that  will play hard on every snap and wanted it more 
at home and you get the recipe  for a September loss.

We've got a week off to get Persa healthy and get  ready for Illinois, who 
will probably be 4-0 and in the top 25. If they can't  use two weeks to 
prepare better, get the team motivated for a rival who  smacked them around last 
year AND come up with better in-game adjustments,  THEN we can talk about a 
coach's future.

This one stings, but let's not  overreact either.

GO CATS!!!
-SjT


* * * * * * * * *  * * * * * * * * * * * * *
STEPHEN J. TRUOG
sjtruog at yahoo.com
GO  CATS!!! GEAUX SAINTS!!!
Super Bowl XLIV  Champions!
________________________________



________________________________
From:  Jim Leonard <jleonard518 at yahoo.com>
To: Northwestern Wildcats  <nwu-sports at tssi.com>
Sent: Sunday, September 18, 2011 7:58  AM
Subject: Re: [NU Sports] hank must go?

I agree with Mike. Our  spread offense should be productive enough to win 
any game where the defense  holds an opponent to 21 points. I was frustrated 
that we didn't have a better  attack on defense but that did not cost us the 
game.

Who decided after  BC and EIU that Kain should throw 20+ yards downfield 
6-7? 
Where was  Mike Trumpy in the first quarter? 

I realize that I am saying this  as a fan and not a coach but I thought we 
should have tried one quick shot to  the end zone before the half (when we 
attempted a field goal). I'm pretty sure  we could have gotten a play off in 
4 seconds and still had 1-2 ticks on the  clock for the field goal if the 
pass was  incomplete. 

Jim 


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From:  Mike Nolan <nolan at tssi.com>
To: bwdolphin146 at yahoo.com
Cc:  "nwu-sports at tssi.com" <nwu-sports at tssi.com>
Sent: Sunday, September  18, 2011 2:51 AM
Subject: Re: [NU Sports] hank must go?

> We  ready for that yet? Hank Cheese? Thoughts? (I lean towards  yes)

Thankfully, fans don't make that kind of decision.   

Army was #2 in rushing offense for a reason.  

I was less  impressed with the offensive game plan than the
defensive one.  We  will need to be able to score more than 14
points in a game if we want to  make it to a bowl game.

Let's hope that Persa is ready for Illinois in  two weeks, their 
rushing game may not be easy to stop, either.   
--
Mike  Nolan

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From jintsjason at me.com  Sun Sep 18 13:46:25 2011
From: jintsjason at me.com (Jason Singer)
Date: Sun, 18 Sep 2011 11:46:25 -0700
Subject: [NU Sports] hank must go?
In-Reply-To: <58401.1fbb0781.3ba794db@aol.com>
References: <58401.1fbb0781.3ba794db@aol.com>
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Here we go?lose a game to the best rushing attack in the country, have two BACKUP QB's not able to finish off a game, and a COUPLE questionable offensive calls and the conclusion must be:

a) Fire our DC
b) Fire Fitz
c) We're not going to win another game all season

Oy vay. It's like you're all channeling us Red Sox fans.

On second thought...

Jason Singer
jintsjason at me.com
jason at jasonsinger.com




On Sep 18, 2011, at 11:39 AM, DPENDERG at aol.com wrote:

> All of this finger pointing at coordinators forces me to emphasize that the 
> buck stops with the head coach when it comes to this embarrassing loss at 
> West  Point yesterday.  The Cats were poorly prepared, lethargic and 
> executed  haphazardly.  I put all of it on the shoulders of Fitz, who failed to  
> get his coaches and players ready for a very winnable game. I hope  this game 
> will be a wakeup call for the coaches and players.  Playing like  they did 
> yesterday and the Cats will have trouble winning most of their Big Ten  games 
> this season.  
> 
> 
> In a message dated 9/18/2011 12:03:10 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,  
> sjtruog at yahoo.com writes:
> 
> I agree  with Jim and Mike ...
> 
> On the question of firing Hank, the answer is a  solid NO. He has done much 
> more positive overall than any DC we've had since  Vandy. And while that 
> last drive wasn't his finest hour, Army is one of those  offenses that is 
> tough to prepare for and we held them to 21 points. I think  our kids could have 
> been a little better prepared and more adjustments ... but  I really think 
> after some early dings and bruises, we were extra-conscious of  those 
> legal-but-still-cheap low blocks at the knees on the edges (kind of like  the Air 
> Force gams) and it got in our head.
> 
> I have more ire at McCall  -- 14 points on Army's D??? We need to find out 
> how to sustain a drive - our  play calling was all over the map. There was 
> one possession in the 3rd where  we took three straight deep shots down the 
> field. Go ahead and take 1 to  stretch the D, but when you're chucking it 20+ 
> yards three straight plays with  a QB who, despite many strengths, doesn't 
> throw the greatest deep ball ...  well, then you're just handing it back to 
> Army's O and giving our D no rest.  The O looked fine until they put a spy 
> on Kain - then, once again, we didn't  make any adjustment except chucking it 
> deep more and hoping Jeremy Ebert makes  another amazing catch. And Jim's 
> right about before the half as well -  clock management by the O!
> 
> So like I said, I'm pointing fingers at the  coaches here -- poor 
> preparation and lack of adjustments. But I certainly  don't want Hank gone and more 
> of that ire is at McCall for only 14  points.
> 
> As for going all doom and gloom, I think we're overreacting a  bit there. 
> This is NOT the Miami loss of 1995 (though I wouldn't mind if it  worked out 
> like that one afterwards) ... it's not as bad as losses between  against 
> Syracuse, Duke, New Hampshire or others.
> 
> We started the year  2-1. Like I said, I hoped those days were over, but 
> considering our best  player is out and 2 of the 3 were on the road, 2-1 isn't 
> sky-is-falling bad.  Disappointing? Yes. But not clean-house bad. As we've 
> been over many times -  NU is not the type of team that can come out and win 
> the creampuffs on name  alone -- we can beat just about anyone when we're 
> on and lose to just about  anyone when we're off. Yesterday was uninspired by 
> the players and featured  poor planning/adjustments from the coaches -- add 
> that to an Army team that  will play hard on every snap and wanted it more 
> at home and you get the recipe  for a September loss.
> 
> We've got a week off to get Persa healthy and get  ready for Illinois, who 
> will probably be 4-0 and in the top 25. If they can't  use two weeks to 
> prepare better, get the team motivated for a rival who  smacked them around last 
> year AND come up with better in-game adjustments,  THEN we can talk about a 
> coach's future.
> 
> This one stings, but let's not  overreact either.
> 
> GO CATS!!!
> -SjT
> 
> 
> * * * * * * * * *  * * * * * * * * * * * * *
> STEPHEN J. TRUOG
> sjtruog at yahoo.com
> GO  CATS!!! GEAUX SAINTS!!!
> Super Bowl XLIV  Champions!
> ________________________________
> 
> 
> 
> ________________________________
> From:  Jim Leonard <jleonard518 at yahoo.com>
> To: Northwestern Wildcats  <nwu-sports at tssi.com>
> Sent: Sunday, September 18, 2011 7:58  AM
> Subject: Re: [NU Sports] hank must go?
> 
> I agree with Mike. Our  spread offense should be productive enough to win 
> any game where the defense  holds an opponent to 21 points. I was frustrated 
> that we didn't have a better  attack on defense but that did not cost us the 
> game.
> 
> Who decided after  BC and EIU that Kain should throw 20+ yards downfield 
> 6-7? 
> Where was  Mike Trumpy in the first quarter? 
> 
> I realize that I am saying this  as a fan and not a coach but I thought we 
> should have tried one quick shot to  the end zone before the half (when we 
> attempted a field goal). I'm pretty sure  we could have gotten a play off in 
> 4 seconds and still had 1-2 ticks on the  clock for the field goal if the 
> pass was  incomplete. 
> 
> Jim 
> 
> 
> ________________________________
> From:  Mike Nolan <nolan at tssi.com>
> To: bwdolphin146 at yahoo.com
> Cc:  "nwu-sports at tssi.com" <nwu-sports at tssi.com>
> Sent: Sunday, September  18, 2011 2:51 AM
> Subject: Re: [NU Sports] hank must go?
> 
>> We  ready for that yet? Hank Cheese? Thoughts? (I lean towards  yes)
> 
> Thankfully, fans don't make that kind of decision.   
> 
> Army was #2 in rushing offense for a reason.  
> 
> I was less  impressed with the offensive game plan than the
> defensive one.  We  will need to be able to score more than 14
> points in a game if we want to  make it to a bowl game.
> 
> Let's hope that Persa is ready for Illinois in  two weeks, their 
> rushing game may not be easy to stop, either.   
> --
> Mike  Nolan
> 
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From DPENDERG at aol.com  Sun Sep 18 16:12:58 2011
From: DPENDERG at aol.com (DPENDERG at aol.com)
Date: Sun, 18 Sep 2011 17:12:58 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: [NU Sports] hank must go?
Message-ID: <20089.5aded553.3ba7b8da@aol.com>

No one is calling for anybody's firing just accountability for an  
embarrassing loss and poor effort that should not have been.  And  it's mainly on 
Fitz's shoulders, in my judgment, because it was such  a lethargic, haphazard 
collective breakdown.  
 
 
 
In a message dated 9/18/2011 2:47:14 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,  
jintsjason at me.com writes:

Here we  go?lose a game to the best rushing attack in the country, have two 
BACKUP QB's  not able to finish off a game, and a COUPLE questionable 
offensive calls and  the conclusion must be:

a) Fire our DC
b) Fire Fitz
c) We're not  going to win another game all season

Oy vay. It's like you're all  channeling us Red Sox fans.

On second thought...

Jason  Singer
jintsjason at me.com
jason at jasonsinger.com




On Sep  18, 2011, at 11:39 AM, DPENDERG at aol.com wrote:

> All of this finger  pointing at coordinators forces me to emphasize that 
the 
> buck stops  with the head coach when it comes to this embarrassing loss 
at 
>  West  Point yesterday.  The Cats were poorly prepared, lethargic and  
> executed  haphazardly.  I put all of it on the shoulders of  Fitz, who 
failed to  
> get his coaches and players ready for a  very winnable game. I hope  this 
game 
> will be a wakeup call for  the coaches and players.  Playing like  they 
did 
> yesterday  and the Cats will have trouble winning most of their Big Ten  
games  
> this season.  
> 
> 
> In a message dated  9/18/2011 12:03:10 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,  
>  sjtruog at yahoo.com writes:
> 
> I agree  with Jim and Mike  ...
> 
> On the question of firing Hank, the answer is a   solid NO. He has done 
much 
> more positive overall than any DC we've  had since  Vandy. And while that 
> last drive wasn't his finest  hour, Army is one of those  offenses that 
is 
> tough to prepare  for and we held them to 21 points. I think  our kids 
could have 
>  been a little better prepared and more adjustments ... but  I really  
think 
> after some early dings and bruises, we were extra-conscious  of  those 
> legal-but-still-cheap low blocks at the knees on the  edges (kind of like 
 the Air 
> Force gams) and it got in our  head.
> 
> I have more ire at McCall  -- 14 points on Army's  D??? We need to find 
out 
> how to sustain a drive - our  play  calling was all over the map. There 
was 
> one possession in the 3rd  where  we took three straight deep shots down 
the 
> field. Go  ahead and take 1 to  stretch the D, but when you're chucking 
it 20+  
> yards three straight plays with  a QB who, despite many  strengths, 
doesn't 
> throw the greatest deep ball ...  well, then  you're just handing it back 
to 
> Army's O and giving our D no  rest.  The O looked fine until they put a 
spy 
> on Kain - then,  once again, we didn't  make any adjustment except 
chucking it 
>  deep more and hoping Jeremy Ebert makes  another amazing catch. And 
Jim's  
> right about before the half as well -  clock management by the  O!
> 
> So like I said, I'm pointing fingers at the  coaches  here -- poor 
> preparation and lack of adjustments. But I  certainly  don't want Hank 
gone and more 
> of that ire is at  McCall for only 14  points.
> 
> As for going all doom and  gloom, I think we're overreacting a  bit 
there. 
> This is NOT the  Miami loss of 1995 (though I wouldn't mind if it  worked 
out 
>  like that one afterwards) ... it's not as bad as losses between  against 
 
> Syracuse, Duke, New Hampshire or others.
> 
> We started  the year  2-1. Like I said, I hoped those days were over, but 
>  considering our best  player is out and 2 of the 3 were on the road, 2-1 
 isn't 
> sky-is-falling bad.  Disappointing? Yes. But not  clean-house bad. As 
we've 
> been over many times -  NU is not the  type of team that can come out and 
win 
> the creampuffs on name   alone -- we can beat just about anyone when 
we're 
> on and lose to just  about  anyone when we're off. Yesterday was 
uninspired by 
> the  players and featured  poor planning/adjustments from the coaches -- 
add  
> that to an Army team that  will play hard on every snap and  wanted it 
more 
> at home and you get the recipe  for a September  loss.
> 
> We've got a week off to get Persa healthy and get   ready for Illinois, 
who 
> will probably be 4-0 and in the top 25. If  they can't  use two weeks to 
> prepare better, get the team  motivated for a rival who  smacked them 
around last 
> year AND  come up with better in-game adjustments,  THEN we can talk 
about a  
> coach's future.
> 
> This one stings, but let's not   overreact either.
> 
> GO CATS!!!
> -SjT
> 
>  
> * * * * * * * * *  * * * * * * * * * * * * *
> STEPHEN J.  TRUOG
> sjtruog at yahoo.com
> GO  CATS!!! GEAUX  SAINTS!!!
> Super Bowl XLIV  Champions!
>  ________________________________
> 
> 
> 
>  ________________________________
> From:  Jim Leonard  <jleonard518 at yahoo.com>
> To: Northwestern Wildcats   <nwu-sports at tssi.com>
> Sent: Sunday, September 18, 2011  7:58  AM
> Subject: Re: [NU Sports] hank must go?
> 
>  I agree with Mike. Our  spread offense should be productive enough to 
win  
> any game where the defense  holds an opponent to 21 points. I  was 
frustrated 
> that we didn't have a better  attack on defense  but that did not cost us 
the 
> game.
> 
> Who decided  after  BC and EIU that Kain should throw 20+ yards downfield 
>  6-7? 
> Where was  Mike Trumpy in the first quarter? 
>  
> I realize that I am saying this  as a fan and not a coach but I  thought 
we 
> should have tried one quick shot to  the end zone  before the half (when 
we 
> attempted a field goal). I'm pretty  sure  we could have gotten a play 
off in 
> 4 seconds and still had  1-2 ticks on the  clock for the field goal if 
the 
> pass was   incomplete. 
> 
> Jim 
> 
> 
>  ________________________________
> From:  Mike Nolan  <nolan at tssi.com>
> To: bwdolphin146 at yahoo.com
> Cc:   "nwu-sports at tssi.com" <nwu-sports at tssi.com>
> Sent: Sunday,  September  18, 2011 2:51 AM
> Subject: Re: [NU Sports] hank must  go?
> 
>> We  ready for that yet? Hank Cheese? Thoughts?  (I lean towards  yes)
> 
> Thankfully, fans don't make that  kind of decision.   
> 
> Army was #2 in rushing offense  for a reason.  
> 
> I was less  impressed with the  offensive game plan than the
> defensive one.  We  will need  to be able to score more than 14
> points in a game if we want to   make it to a bowl game.
> 
> Let's hope that Persa is ready for  Illinois in  two weeks, their 
> rushing game may not be easy to  stop, either.   
> --
> Mike  Nolan
>  
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From sjtruog at yahoo.com  Sun Sep 18 16:16:34 2011
From: sjtruog at yahoo.com (SjT (Stephen J. Truog))
Date: Sun, 18 Sep 2011 14:16:34 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [NU Sports] Things are moving fast again ...
Message-ID: <1316380594.6218.YahooMailNeo@web121717.mail.ne1.yahoo.com>

... in the conference shuffle game. Pitt/'Cuse accepted by ACC and UConn lobbying.

The Big Least (better get in those shots while I can) is now in a race with the Big XII to see who crumbles first.

Smart pre-emptory move by the ACC to avoid being the one without a chair out east and survive any SEC raids.

The ball now is back in Texas' court. They seem dead set against the SEC. The ACC is making overtures, but that's a stretch. The Big Ten could still be in the game if the Big East's shakeup knocks Notre Dame loose and they want to come into the "league of legends" that would then include essentially every historic college football power except Alabama or USC. But the Pac 12 still probably has the inside track.

Oklahoma/OSU also seem to be one to watch ... if Texas keeps dancing around, they may decide that it's best to make a decision before the Big XII crumbles completely and jump to the SEC or Pac 12.

I think the Big Ten still needs to stand pat for now unless those Horns or Irish come calling. You gotta think West Virginia and the rest of the Big East and TCU are scrambling right now ... and if they lose their home league for other sports, Notre Dame may even have to take notice.

Superconferences, here we come!
Now if the B(C)S could only topple so quickly!

GO CATS!!!
-SjT
?
* * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *
STEPHEN J. TRUOG
sjtruog at yahoo.com
GO CATS!!! GEAUX SAINTS!!!
Super Bowl XLIV Champions!
________________________________

From rstetson at capps-assoc.com  Sun Sep 18 16:21:14 2011
From: rstetson at capps-assoc.com (Roy S. Lamberton)
Date: Sun, 18 Sep 2011 17:21:14 -0400
Subject: [NU Sports] BTN overflow channels?
In-Reply-To: <4E74EF70.7050401@mindspring.com>
References: <1316281092.3072.YahooMailNeo@web36805.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
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Message-ID: <00af01cc7648$e65980d0$b30c8270$@com>

In non Big 10 States - states without a Big 10 team, Comcast puts the BTN on their upper
sports tier, around here its channels 713-715, and charges us $9.95 for it, plus ESPNU
plus CSTV and 8 more channels that include soccer and other sports.

We have been able to watch every single Big 10 game that BTN carries in the past, and last
week had all the games on.

In the Big 10 States, Comcast is supposed to show the main channel free (at least that was
how it was explained a year ago) and has overflow channels for the extra games.

The Army game, however, on CBS was not shown around here, I'm not sure it was even on an
overflow channel somewhere. I was out of town and had to listen on my WGN Droid app.

Right now there is a small move to get some of the additional non-Xfinity games on the
droid and iphone. So far, Comcast is ignoring everyone.

rsl



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-----Original Message-----
From: nwu-sports-bounces at tssi.com [mailto:nwu-sports-bounces at tssi.com] On Behalf Of Clark
Zahn
Sent: Saturday, September 17, 2011 3:05 PM
To: nwu-sports at tssi.com
Subject: Re: [NU Sports] BTN overflow channels?

The problem is probably with Comcast.  They are notorious for not doing 
a good job of handling the overflow channels.


On 09/17/2011 10:38 AM, Jim Leonard wrote:
> Does anyone know what the deal is with Big Ten Network overflow channels outside of the
Big Ten states? I'm specifically interested in Comcast service in Tennessee. 
>
> I cannot find any reference to overflow channels on btn.com or comcast.com which is
rather frustrating. Whoever update this information on the BTN.com website should be
fired. This is probably THE ONLY detail that would ever drive someone to visit BTN.com. 
>
> Right now I am watching the EMU v. Michigan game but I apparently don't have access to
the Purdue game.
>
> Go Cats!
> Jim
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From nolan at tssi.com  Sun Sep 18 16:39:05 2011
From: nolan at tssi.com (Mike Nolan)
Date: Sun, 18 Sep 2011 16:39:05 -0500 (CDT)
Subject: [NU Sports] hank must go?
In-Reply-To: <20089.5aded553.3ba7b8da@aol.com>
Message-ID: <20110918213905.A855160623@romaine.tssi.com>

Realistically, what 'accountability' is possible mid-season?

I didn't hear the postgame show, but Fitz has been pretty quick to
pin the blame for losses on himself in the past rather than point fingers 
at players, assistant coaches, or even officiating.  I can think of
more than a few head coaches who have NEVER accepted responsibiity for
any of their losses, not even after being fired!  (Bill Callahan at 
Nebraska comes to mind.)  

Coaches do, eventually, get fired if their teams do not perform well
over time, though usually they get one shot at replacing their assistants
before they get dumped, unless, of course, the AD or university president
already hates the coach's guts.  

One loss should not be enough to trigger either of those, even at N*D* 
and certainly not at Northwestern, where 'loyalty' is a virtue worth 
touting, but only when it doesn't apply to stadium names, I guess.
--
Mike Nolan


From alan.abrahamson at gmail.com  Sun Sep 18 18:20:46 2011
From: alan.abrahamson at gmail.com (Alan Abrahamson)
Date: Sun, 18 Sep 2011 16:20:46 -0700
Subject: [NU Sports] hank must go?
In-Reply-To: <20110918213905.A855160623@romaine.tssi.com>
References: <20089.5aded553.3ba7b8da@aol.com>
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Nobody's getting fired, and nobody deserves to get fired. Please, people. I
understand the frustration but let's get real.

I admire everyone's passion. That's the sign of a real program. Good.

That said:

We were down to our second- and third-string quarterbacks, and we were on
the road against a freaky offense.

Moreover, our second-string quarterback is a true sophomore making his
fourth start, and his shoulder may or may not be hurt.

Here's the key:

Our offense is predicated on ball-control. For all the fast tempo plays, the
spread sets and the four-receiver options, it's really a ball-control
offense.

That's why we got killed last year the last three games. We kept going
three-and-out (plus, in those games, we kept making turnovers --
unsurprisingly, given who we were starting at quarterback). When we go
three-and-out, it puts undue pressure on our defense.

That's what happened to us Saturday at West Point as well -- which is
exactly what Fitz had warned about beforehand. He had said that if our
defense was on the field for 40 minutes, we were in trouble. Guess what? We
were in trouble.

Generally speaking, we have to control the ball on offense -- that's the
Persa advantage, at least when he's healthy, as it was with Kafka and the
others in the NU quarterback line before him. It's pretty elemental, really.

Three-play drives that led to 62-yard Jeremy Ebert touchdown receptions are
good for Wildcat fan stress relief (for sure, mine). But they're not -- as
was proven -- a recipe for winning Northwestern football.

As fans, we can for sure quibble over some play-calling -- our repeated
tendency to send the running back, whoever it may be, into the line on first
down, necessitating what seem like endless third-and-seven conversion
attempts -- but, again, we run a ball-control offense. We have to be able to
sustain 10-, 12, 15-, even 17- or 18-play drives. That's the winning Wildcat
way.














On Sun, Sep 18, 2011 at 2:39 PM, Mike Nolan <nolan at tssi.com> wrote:

> Realistically, what 'accountability' is possible mid-season?
>
> I didn't hear the postgame show, but Fitz has been pretty quick to
> pin the blame for losses on himself in the past rather than point fingers
> at players, assistant coaches, or even officiating.  I can think of
> more than a few head coaches who have NEVER accepted responsibiity for
> any of their losses, not even after being fired!  (Bill Callahan at
> Nebraska comes to mind.)
>
> Coaches do, eventually, get fired if their teams do not perform well
> over time, though usually they get one shot at replacing their assistants
> before they get dumped, unless, of course, the AD or university president
> already hates the coach's guts.
>
> One loss should not be enough to trigger either of those, even at N*D*
> and certainly not at Northwestern, where 'loyalty' is a virtue worth
> touting, but only when it doesn't apply to stadium names, I guess.
> --
> Mike Nolan
>
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From rstetson at capps-assoc.com  Mon Sep 19 07:00:14 2011
From: rstetson at capps-assoc.com (Roy S. Lamberton)
Date: Mon, 19 Sep 2011 08:00:14 -0400
Subject: [NU Sports] Hank Told Skip what it was going to be like....
Message-ID: <000101cc76c3$b1d6dad0$15849070$@com>

http://nusports.cstv.com/blog/2011/09/blog-friday-quick-hitters-2.html

Seems that Hank and Fitz had a pretty good idea about how hard it would be to stop Army.

We probably don't want to play Navy, with their Spread Option attack, either.

rsl

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Director Media Relations - Little League 
  Senior League Softball World Series
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Northwestern University - Speech 1974 - 
Chi Phi: Pi 1974, KD 1968
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From rstetson at capps-assoc.com  Mon Sep 19 07:26:03 2011
From: rstetson at capps-assoc.com (Roy S. Lamberton)
Date: Mon, 19 Sep 2011 08:26:03 -0400
Subject: [NU Sports] Kafka gets into the game....
Message-ID: <000201cc76c7$4cfe5e90$e6fb1bb0$@com>

QB Mike Kafka each played in their first NFL game. Kafka completed 7 of 9 passes for 72
yards and a 100.0 passer rating in his first game action ...

++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
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-------------------- Also ----------------------
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Director Media Relations - Little League 
  Senior League Softball World Series
CTR2 USN (67-70) - CTRCS USNR (Ret) (64-67/70-95)
Northwestern University - Speech 1974 - 
Chi Phi: Pi 1974, KD 1968
Publisher Emeritus: Purple Reign (Fox Sports)
================================================
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down to vote on what is for dinner."

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==========  Go Cats -? Beat 'em All  ===========





From eschoeman at sbcglobal.net  Mon Sep 19 07:36:58 2011
From: eschoeman at sbcglobal.net (Evans Schoeman)
Date: Mon, 19 Sep 2011 05:36:58 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [NU Sports] Hank Told Skip what it was going to be like....
In-Reply-To: <000101cc76c3$b1d6dad0$15849070$@com>
References: <000101cc76c3$b1d6dad0$15849070$@com>
Message-ID: <1316435818.94694.YahooMailRC@web83901.mail.sp1.yahoo.com>

Holding Army to 21 points was probably an acceptable defensive performance.

The concern has to be that two weeks ago, a Northern Illinois team that got 
walloped by the Badgers rung up 49 ponts in beating this Army team by 23.

Assuming that Persa plays against Illinois, it's hard to say what to expect from 
someone who hasn't played a live down in almost 11 months.




________________________________
From: Roy S. Lamberton <rstetson at capps-assoc.com>
To: nwu-sports at tssi.com
Sent: Mon, September 19, 2011 7:00:14 AM
Subject: [NU Sports] Hank Told Skip what it was going to be like....

http://nusports.cstv.com/blog/2011/09/blog-friday-quick-hitters-2.html

Seems that Hank and Fitz had a pretty good idea about how hard it would be to 
stop Army.

We probably don't want to play Navy, with their Spread Option attack, either.

rsl

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-------------------- Also ----------------------
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Director Media Relations - Little League 
? Senior League Softball World Series
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Northwestern University - Speech 1974 - 
Chi Phi: Pi 1974, KD 1968
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From jleonard518 at yahoo.com  Mon Sep 19 07:49:14 2011
From: jleonard518 at yahoo.com (Jim Leonard)
Date: Mon, 19 Sep 2011 05:49:14 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [NU Sports] Things are moving fast again ...
In-Reply-To: <1316380594.6218.YahooMailNeo@web121717.mail.ne1.yahoo.com>
References: <1316380594.6218.YahooMailNeo@web121717.mail.ne1.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <1316436554.25110.YahooMailNeo@web36803.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

I think the 16-team conferences are a mistake. That being said, is there any guarantee that Penn State stays in the Big Ten? I have more or less assumed that no one would want to leave, but if the Pitt and Syracuse rivalries plus Maryland are to be found in the ACC, PSU might be tempted - especially if they could bring Rutgers and land the New York market.

Jim


________________________________
From: SjT (Stephen J. Truog) <sjtruog at yahoo.com>


I think the Big Ten still needs to stand pat for now unless those Horns or Irish come calling. You gotta think West Virginia and the rest of the Big East and TCU are scrambling right now ... and if they lose their home league for other sports, Notre Dame may even have to take notice.

Superconferences, here we come!
Now if the B(C)S could only topple so quickly!

GO CATS!!!
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?
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From rstetson at capps-assoc.com  Mon Sep 19 08:11:35 2011
From: rstetson at capps-assoc.com (Roy S. Lamberton)
Date: Mon, 19 Sep 2011 09:11:35 -0400
Subject: [NU Sports] Hank Told Skip what it was going to be like....
In-Reply-To: <1316435818.94694.YahooMailRC@web83901.mail.sp1.yahoo.com>
References: <000101cc76c3$b1d6dad0$15849070$@com>
 <1316435818.94694.YahooMailRC@web83901.mail.sp1.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <000c01cc76cd$a96e1980$fc4a4c80$@com>

Well, here's one way you look at this:

 

The Cats have now played two games, and everyone we play has the benefit of watching those
two games.

 

If you are going to defense the Cats, you first have to stuff the O-Line and take away the
over guard rushes, then you have to spy Coulter and keep him contained.  Army runs a
defense that can appear to be a 3-4, but show a 4-3 or 5-2 at times. They take away the
outside with two smaller, but quick outside linebackers (whip and quick) and have the
Rover, a LB/FS who fills in the holes.

 

I didn't see the game, but it sounded like Army ran a lot of really good man coverage and
got pressure on Coulter.

 

To Siemians' credit, he apparently figured out Army's coverage well enough to complete the
passes at the end of the game, but then Army was probably in "prevent" making sure the
receivers didn't get behind them.

 

Now that the Big 10 has video of NU losing, I'd expect more Army style defense against NU,
and until we shut it down, they other guys are going to run, run, and then run some more -
at least until we stop them.

 

And, IMHO, Nebraska's variation of the option is going to give us fits, altho they don't
set up in a wishbone.

 

rsl

 

++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

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Computer Applications & Support Associates

Coach Roy's Random Thoughts - http://coachroy.org

-------------------- Also ----------------------

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Director Media Relations - Little League 

  Senior League Softball World Series

CTR2 USN (67-70) - CTRCS USNR (Ret) (64-67/70-95)

Northwestern University - Speech 1974 - 

Chi Phi: Pi 1974, KD 1968

Publisher Emeritus: Purple Reign (Fox Sports)

================================================

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those of any organizations of which I am a member.

------------------------------------------------

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down to vote on what is for dinner."

 

"You have a republic, madam, if you can keep it"

==========  Go Cats -  Beat 'em All  ===========

 

 

From: Evans Schoeman [mailto:eschoeman at sbcglobal.net] 
Sent: Monday, September 19, 2011 8:37 AM
To: Roy S. Lamberton; nwu-sports at tssi.com
Subject: Re: [NU Sports] Hank Told Skip what it was going to be like....

 

Holding Army to 21 points was probably an acceptable defensive performance.

The concern has to be that two weeks ago, a Northern Illinois team that got walloped by
the Badgers rung up 49 ponts in beating this Army team by 23.

Assuming that Persa plays against Illinois, it's hard to say what to expect from someone
who hasn't played a live down in almost 11 months.

 

  _____  

From: Roy S. Lamberton <rstetson at capps-assoc.com>
To: nwu-sports at tssi.com
Sent: Mon, September 19, 2011 7:00:14 AM
Subject: [NU Sports] Hank Told Skip what it was going to be like....

http://nusports.cstv.com/blog/2011/09/blog-friday-quick-hitters-2.html

Seems that Hank and Fitz had a pretty good idea about how hard it would be to stop Army.

We probably don't want to play Navy, with their Spread Option attack, either.

rsl

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-------------------- Also ----------------------
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Director Media Relations - Little League 
  Senior League Softball World Series
CTR2 USN (67-70) - CTRCS USNR (Ret) (64-67/70-95)
Northwestern University - Speech 1974 - 
Chi Phi: Pi 1974, KD 1968
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================================================
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From sportsbiz at gmail.com  Mon Sep 19 09:28:41 2011
From: sportsbiz at gmail.com (Sportsbiz)
Date: Mon, 19 Sep 2011 10:28:41 -0400
Subject: [NU Sports] Things are moving fast again ...
In-Reply-To: <1316436554.25110.YahooMailNeo@web36803.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
References: <1316380594.6218.YahooMailNeo@web121717.mail.ne1.yahoo.com>
 <1316436554.25110.YahooMailNeo@web36803.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
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As far as anyone can be assured of anything in this situation, I think the
Big Ten can be assured of not losing any members.  There is no other
conference, with the possible exception of the SEC, that offers the security
and stability of the Big Ten along with the ATM known as the Big Ten
Network.  While the Pac-whatever has multiple networks and a huge contract
it also will cover multiple time zones (3) and with a number and potential
configuration (4 divisions) that has been shown not to work - witness the
former WAC, which birthed the Mountain West after the 16 team WAC proved
unworkable.  If indeed the Texas network is folded in to the Pac -16 TV
arrangement and the Texas and Oklahoma schools are in their own 4 team
division, is that really a conference?  How stable do you think that really
is, especially when it involves Texas - the only school more enamored of
itself than Notre Dame.

Mark

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On Mon, Sep 19, 2011 at 8:49 AM, Jim Leonard <jleonard518 at yahoo.com> wrote:

> I think the 16-team conferences are a mistake. That being said, is there
> any guarantee that Penn State stays in the Big Ten? I have more or less
> assumed that no one would want to leave, but if the Pitt and Syracuse
> rivalries plus Maryland are to be found in the ACC, PSU might be tempted -
> especially if they could bring Rutgers and land the New York market.
>
> Jim
>
>
> ________________________________
> From: SjT (Stephen J. Truog) <sjtruog at yahoo.com>
>
>
> I think the Big Ten still needs to stand pat for now unless those Horns or
> Irish come calling. You gotta think West Virginia and the rest of the Big
> East and TCU are scrambling right now ... and if they lose their home league
> for other sports, Notre Dame may even have to take notice.
>
> Superconferences, here we come!
> Now if the B(C)S could only topple so quickly!
>
> GO CATS!!!
> -SjT
>
> * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *
> STEPHEN J. TRUOG
> sjtruog at yahoo.com
> GO CATS!!! GEAUX SAINTS!!!
> Super Bowl XLIV Champions!
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From tbng at comcast.net  Mon Sep 19 09:34:07 2011
From: tbng at comcast.net (Dennis W. Brandt)
Date: Mon, 19 Sep 2011 10:34:07 -0400
Subject: [NU Sports] Kafka gets into the game....
References: <000201cc76c7$4cfe5e90$e6fb1bb0$@com>
Message-ID: <28CD7490FA9D48939E2428DFA848269C@dennismachine>

And Kafka was passing his heart out and leading them to victory, but Jeremy 
Maclin, who whooped us in a bowl game a few years back, dropped a fourth 
down pass that hit him right in the numbers.

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Roy S. Lamberton" <rstetson at capps-assoc.com>
To: <nwu-sports at tssi.com>
Sent: Monday, September 19, 2011 8:26 AM
Subject: [NU Sports] Kafka gets into the game....


QB Mike Kafka each played in their first NFL game. Kafka completed 7 of 9 
passes for 72
yards and a 100.0 passer rating in his first game action ...

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-------------------- Also ----------------------
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Director Media Relations - Little League
  Senior League Softball World Series
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Northwestern University - Speech 1974 -
Chi Phi: Pi 1974, KD 1968
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From rstetson at capps-assoc.com  Mon Sep 19 10:15:58 2011
From: rstetson at capps-assoc.com (Roy S. Lamberton)
Date: Mon, 19 Sep 2011 11:15:58 -0400
Subject: [NU Sports] Hank Told Skip what it was going to be like....
In-Reply-To: <75B280B42FFE4DC8A2859CAA847B058E@dennismachine>
References: <000101cc76c3$b1d6dad0$15849070$@com>
 <75B280B42FFE4DC8A2859CAA847B058E@dennismachine>
Message-ID: <000a01cc76df$09ee0480$1dca0d80$@com>

Army has been getting better and better, and seems to have found the right offense and
defense for the size of their personnel.

None of the service academies will ever field an O-Line with 300 lb tackles, or interior
defenders, but they won't be ground down by a bigger team either.

Paul Johnson proved you could be competitive at the service academies at Navy, following
what Air Force had done back in the 90's. Army is a natural for a wishbone attack and as
they get better and better, and recruit players who want an Army career and can play a
triple option, they will rise up and strike someone again, the way they did it to us
Saturday.

I think Coach Hank (and Fitz) were hinting all week about how tough the West Pointer's D
and O could be in their home stadium. They proved it Saturday.

Personally, I've always liked the 5-1 with a rover as a good way to stop both the passing
and rushing style team. It requires a phenomenal athlete at the Rover because he needs to
both cover and play run, but when you get that kid in position, the opponents never know
where the rush is coming from - they can really disrupt your game plan in a hurry.

Even worse from an offensive point is the 3-5, with 3 big guys up front and 5
linebacker/safeties. You never know where the 4th rusher is coming from.

Now, the lessons to be learned will now be in the film room - the O-Line needs to figure
out how to adjust to a smaller, quicker defenses, altho most of the Big 10 is of the
bigger front 4 variety. I think we can almost count on Persa starting against Illinois,
and if Coulter is back in - blitz, blitz and blitz.

rsl

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-------------------- Also ----------------------
"Commissioner" Delaware American Legion Baseball
Director Media Relations - Little League 
  Senior League Softball World Series
CTR2 USN (67-70) - CTRCS USNR (Ret) (64-67/70-95)
Northwestern University - Speech 1974 - 
Chi Phi: Pi 1974, KD 1968
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==========  Go Cats -? Beat 'em All  ===========



-----Original Message-----
From: Dennis W. Brandt [mailto:tbng at comcast.net] 
Sent: Monday, September 19, 2011 10:21 AM
To: Roy S. Lamberton
Subject: Re: [NU Sports] Hank Told Skip what it was going to be like....

<Seems that Hank and Fitz had a pretty good idea about how hard it would be 
to stop Army.

I don't want to hear how we couldn't stop them.  I want to know how they 
were able to stop us when they gave up 49 to Northern Illinois and 24 to San 
Diego State.  Army is never any good, and we lost to them.  It IS more 
embarrassing than the loss Miami of Ohio in '95 because then everyone 
assumed it was old NU falling back into normal character after what must 
have been a fluky win over Notre Dame.  It wasn't true in the end, but no 
one knew it then.  Now we're supposed to beat up on teams like Army.

Hopefully, Fitz can use this to motivate the team the way Barnett used MOH 
in '95.  But we have not played well against three weak opponents (BC is now 
obviously in that category), and we don't have a Darnell Autry to ride.  The 
rest of the season is officially scary. 



From rstetson at capps-assoc.com  Mon Sep 19 10:18:22 2011
From: rstetson at capps-assoc.com (Roy S. Lamberton)
Date: Mon, 19 Sep 2011 11:18:22 -0400
Subject: [NU Sports] Things are moving fast again ...
In-Reply-To: <CAPCH0EPn8Eajpw=x33ZgA59ja1RoJ2c3E7WGHtpj7nTPeqbXpA@mail.gmail.com>
References: <1316380594.6218.YahooMailNeo@web121717.mail.ne1.yahoo.com>
 <1316436554.25110.YahooMailNeo@web36803.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
 <CAPCH0EPn8Eajpw=x33ZgA59ja1RoJ2c3E7WGHtpj7nTPeqbXpA@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <000b01cc76df$5fc2ac80$1f480580$@com>

How about the "Narcissist Conference?"

N**** D***, Texas, Oklahoma, Alabama, U$C, Stanford - they always think they're better
than anyone else. (I'd add dOSU but they're too wedded to the Big 10).

rsl

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-------------------- Also ----------------------
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Director Media Relations - Little League 
  Senior League Softball World Series
CTR2 USN (67-70) - CTRCS USNR (Ret) (64-67/70-95)
Northwestern University - Speech 1974 - 
Chi Phi: Pi 1974, KD 1968
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-----Original Message-----
From: nwu-sports-bounces at tssi.com [mailto:nwu-sports-bounces at tssi.com] On Behalf Of
Sportsbiz
Sent: Monday, September 19, 2011 10:29 AM
To: Jim Leonard
Cc: NUSPORTS
Subject: Re: [NU Sports] Things are moving fast again ...

As far as anyone can be assured of anything in this situation, I think the
Big Ten can be assured of not losing any members.  There is no other
conference, with the possible exception of the SEC, that offers the security
and stability of the Big Ten along with the ATM known as the Big Ten
Network.  While the Pac-whatever has multiple networks and a huge contract
it also will cover multiple time zones (3) and with a number and potential
configuration (4 divisions) that has been shown not to work - witness the
former WAC, which birthed the Mountain West after the 16 team WAC proved
unworkable.  If indeed the Texas network is folded in to the Pac -16 TV
arrangement and the Texas and Oklahoma schools are in their own 4 team
division, is that really a conference?  How stable do you think that really
is, especially when it involves Texas - the only school more enamored of
itself than Notre Dame.

Mark

*Mark S. Ament*
sportsbiz at gmail.com
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On Mon, Sep 19, 2011 at 8:49 AM, Jim Leonard <jleonard518 at yahoo.com> wrote:

> I think the 16-team conferences are a mistake. That being said, is there
> any guarantee that Penn State stays in the Big Ten? I have more or less
> assumed that no one would want to leave, but if the Pitt and Syracuse
> rivalries plus Maryland are to be found in the ACC, PSU might be tempted -
> especially if they could bring Rutgers and land the New York market.
>
> Jim
>
>
> ________________________________
> From: SjT (Stephen J. Truog) <sjtruog at yahoo.com>
>
>
> I think the Big Ten still needs to stand pat for now unless those Horns or
> Irish come calling. You gotta think West Virginia and the rest of the Big
> East and TCU are scrambling right now ... and if they lose their home league
> for other sports, Notre Dame may even have to take notice.
>
> Superconferences, here we come!
> Now if the B(C)S could only topple so quickly!
>
> GO CATS!!!
> -SjT
>
> * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *
> STEPHEN J. TRUOG
> sjtruog at yahoo.com
> GO CATS!!! GEAUX SAINTS!!!
> Super Bowl XLIV Champions!
> ________________________________
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From jleonard518 at yahoo.com  Mon Sep 19 10:58:33 2011
From: jleonard518 at yahoo.com (Jim Leonard)
Date: Mon, 19 Sep 2011 08:58:33 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [NU Sports] Big East bones
Message-ID: <1316447913.1928.YahooMailNeo@web36807.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

My friend in the industry told me that Kansas, Kansas State, Cincinnati and South Florida are the four schools really scrambling right now.?

Of the remaining football schools in the Big East:
South Florida - probably left out
West Virginia - my guess is SEC
Cincinnati -?probably left out
Louisville - The Big Ten wouldn't entirely shock me but more likely to the SEC
Rutgers -?desperately trying to be in the ACC
UConn - desperately trying to be in the ACC

This is all about money and such decisions are rarely a good idea.

Jim

From nolan at tssi.com  Mon Sep 19 11:09:58 2011
From: nolan at tssi.com (Mike Nolan)
Date: Mon, 19 Sep 2011 11:09:58 -0500 (CDT)
Subject: [NU Sports] Big East bones
In-Reply-To: <1316447913.1928.YahooMailNeo@web36807.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <20110919160958.8000E61075@romaine.tssi.com>

> My friend in the industry told me that Kansas, Kansas State, Cincinnati and=
>  South Florida are the four schools really scrambling right now.=A0
> 
> Of the remaining football schools in the Big East:
> South Florida - probably left out
> West Virginia - my guess is SEC
> Cincinnati -=A0probably left out
> Louisville - The Big Ten wouldn't entirely shock me but more likely to the =
> SEC
> Rutgers -=A0desperately trying to be in the ACC
> UConn - desperately trying to be in the ACC

It looks like Oklahoma, Oklahoma State, Texas Tech and Texas are getting
closer to working out a deal with the Pac-whatever.  ESPN says that Texas
gets to keep its network but they would have to carry more Pac-12 content.
Does that mean Texas still gets to keep all the money?

That means the Forgotton Five, Baylor, Iowa State, Kansas, Kansas State 
and Missouri, could be out in the cold within a few weeks.  The AD at
Rutgers is quoted as saying that the next 30 days will be telling.

Missouri could still become the 14th school in the SEC, something I 
suggested several weeks back.  

A marriage of convenience (which is never convenient) between the remnants
of the Big East and the remnants of the Big 12 seems likely.  

Notre Dame seems committed to its independence, and I would imagine the
Big East (which may need renaming) will continue to welcome it as member
in non-football sports.
--
Mike Nolan


From clzahn at mindspring.com  Mon Sep 19 15:03:02 2011
From: clzahn at mindspring.com (Clark Zahn)
Date: Mon, 19 Sep 2011 13:03:02 -0700 (GMT-07:00)
Subject: [NU Sports] Big East bones
Message-ID: <23517871.1316462583130.JavaMail.root@elwamui-milano.atl.sa.earthlink.net>




-----Original Message-----
>From: Mike Nolan <nolan at tssi.com>

>A marriage of convenience (which is never convenient) between the remnants
>of the Big East and the remnants of the Big 12 seems likely.  
>


They could form a new conference with East and West divisions.  They could call it the Big Least. :-)

Clark Zahn



From Jeff.Beamsley at covisint.com  Mon Sep 19 16:01:35 2011
From: Jeff.Beamsley at covisint.com (Beamsley, Jeff)
Date: Mon, 19 Sep 2011 17:01:35 -0400
Subject: [NU Sports] Big East bones
References: <23517871.1316462583130.JavaMail.root@elwamui-milano.atl.sa.earthlink.net>
Message-ID: <FA7822545C26F244823CA5D312ABBDEA06BF574A@nasa-dtw-ex006.nasa.cpwr.corp>

How about the Big Waste?
 
Jeff

________________________________

From: nwu-sports-bounces at tssi.com on behalf of Clark Zahn
Sent: Mon 9/19/2011 4:03 PM
To: Northwestern Wildcats
Subject: Re: [NU Sports] Big East bones






-----Original Message-----
>From: Mike Nolan <nolan at tssi.com>

>A marriage of convenience (which is never convenient) between the remnants
>of the Big East and the remnants of the Big 12 seems likely. 
>


They could form a new conference with East and West divisions.  They could call it the Big Least. :-)

Clark Zahn


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From artmiller1 at gmail.com  Mon Sep 19 19:45:32 2011
From: artmiller1 at gmail.com (Arthur Miller)
Date: Mon, 19 Sep 2011 19:45:32 -0500
Subject: [NU Sports] Big East bones
In-Reply-To: <FA7822545C26F244823CA5D312ABBDEA06BF574A@nasa-dtw-ex006.nasa.cpwr.corp>
References: <23517871.1316462583130.JavaMail.root@elwamui-milano.atl.sa.earthlink.net>
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You know, guys...a little humility might be in order here.  A major
realignment is going to be extremely discouraging for fans of schools like
Iowa State, Kansas State, and TCU.  If it were the Big Ten that was
disintegrating and losing its best members, you can bet that the likes of
Michigan, Nebraska, and Penn State wouldn't be dragging little NU along with
them.

We should just be very grateful that our membership in the Big Ten is
protecting us from any harm in this shakeup.

Art Miller

On Mon, Sep 19, 2011 at 4:01 PM, Beamsley, Jeff
<Jeff.Beamsley at covisint.com>wrote:

> How about the Big Waste?
>
> Jeff
>
> ________________________________
>
> From: nwu-sports-bounces at tssi.com on behalf of Clark Zahn
> Sent: Mon 9/19/2011 4:03 PM
> To: Northwestern Wildcats
> Subject: Re: [NU Sports] Big East bones
>
>
>
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> >From: Mike Nolan <nolan at tssi.com>
>
> >A marriage of convenience (which is never convenient) between the remnants
> >of the Big East and the remnants of the Big 12 seems likely.
> >
>
>
> They could form a new conference with East and West divisions.  They could
> call it the Big Least. :-)
>
> Clark Zahn
>
>
> _______________________________________________
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From clzahn at mindspring.com  Mon Sep 19 19:51:28 2011
From: clzahn at mindspring.com (Clark Zahn)
Date: Mon, 19 Sep 2011 17:51:28 -0700
Subject: [NU Sports] Big East bones
In-Reply-To: <CAK_3xyKWTjRZZYbuj3xd-S16mtCSDmOn137QNnnV0AJ92xz_pw@mail.gmail.com>
References: <23517871.1316462583130.JavaMail.root@elwamui-milano.atl.sa.earthlink.net>	<FA7822545C26F244823CA5D312ABBDEA06BF574A@nasa-dtw-ex006.nasa.cpwr.corp>
 <CAK_3xyKWTjRZZYbuj3xd-S16mtCSDmOn137QNnnV0AJ92xz_pw@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <4E77E390.1020508@mindspring.com>

I would never make such comments on a public forum.

On 09/19/2011 05:45 PM, Arthur Miller wrote:
> You know, guys...a little humility might be in order here.  A major 
> realignment is going to be extremely discouraging for fans of schools 
> like Iowa State, Kansas State, and TCU.  If it were the Big Ten that 
> was disintegrating and losing its best members, you can bet that the 
> likes of Michigan, Nebraska, and Penn State wouldn't be dragging 
> little NU along with them.
> We should just be very grateful that our membership in the Big Ten is 
> protecting us from any harm in this shakeup.
> Art Miller
>
> On Mon, Sep 19, 2011 at 4:01 PM, Beamsley, Jeff 
> <Jeff.Beamsley at covisint.com <mailto:Jeff.Beamsley at covisint.com>> wrote:
>
>     How about the Big Waste?
>
>     Jeff
>
>     ________________________________
>
>     From: nwu-sports-bounces at tssi.com
>     <mailto:nwu-sports-bounces at tssi.com> on behalf of Clark Zahn
>     Sent: Mon 9/19/2011 4:03 PM
>     To: Northwestern Wildcats
>     Subject: Re: [NU Sports] Big East bones
>
>
>
>
>
>
>     -----Original Message-----
>     >From: Mike Nolan <nolan at tssi.com <mailto:nolan at tssi.com>>
>
>     >A marriage of convenience (which is never convenient) between the
>     remnants
>     >of the Big East and the remnants of the Big 12 seems likely.
>     >
>
>
>     They could form a new conference with East and West divisions.
>      They could call it the Big Least. :-)
>
>     Clark Zahn
>
>
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From sportsbiz at gmail.com  Mon Sep 19 19:56:49 2011
From: sportsbiz at gmail.com (Mark Ament)
Date: Mon, 19 Sep 2011 20:56:49 -0400
Subject: [NU Sports] Big East bones
In-Reply-To: <CAK_3xyKWTjRZZYbuj3xd-S16mtCSDmOn137QNnnV0AJ92xz_pw@mail.gmail.com>
References: <23517871.1316462583130.JavaMail.root@elwamui-milano.atl.sa.earthlink.net>
 <FA7822545C26F244823CA5D312ABBDEA06BF574A@nasa-dtw-ex006.nasa.cpwr.corp>
 <CAK_3xyKWTjRZZYbuj3xd-S16mtCSDmOn137QNnnV0AJ92xz_pw@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <8A522ED3-1700-4CB0-9CB5-CA4C7F0823EC@gmail.com>

Very true Art.  The final tale is far from being written either as there are rumblings in Iowa about the debt Iowa State took on to upgrade facilities following the signing of the new big 12 tv deal with Fox.  Taxpayers and their legislators are not too happy about the prospect of being left holding the bag for hundreds of millions of dollars that Fox won't be funding if there is no Big12.
The twists, turns and unforeseen consequences of this whole charade are staggering.
Mark

 Mark S. Ament
sportsbiz at gmail.com



On Sep 19, 2011, at 8:45 PM, Arthur Miller <artmiller1 at gmail.com> wrote:

> You know, guys...a little humility might be in order here.  A major
> realignment is going to be extremely discouraging for fans of schools like
> Iowa State, Kansas State, and TCU.  If it were the Big Ten that was
> disintegrating and losing its best members, you can bet that the likes of
> Michigan, Nebraska, and Penn State wouldn't be dragging little NU along with
> them.
> 
> We should just be very grateful that our membership in the Big Ten is
> protecting us from any harm in this shakeup.
> 
> Art Miller
> 
> On Mon, Sep 19, 2011 at 4:01 PM, Beamsley, Jeff
> <Jeff.Beamsley at covisint.com>wrote:
> 
>> How about the Big Waste?
>> 
>> Jeff
>> 
>> ________________________________
>> 
>> From: nwu-sports-bounces at tssi.com on behalf of Clark Zahn
>> Sent: Mon 9/19/2011 4:03 PM
>> To: Northwestern Wildcats
>> Subject: Re: [NU Sports] Big East bones
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: Mike Nolan <nolan at tssi.com>
>> 
>>> A marriage of convenience (which is never convenient) between the remnants
>>> of the Big East and the remnants of the Big 12 seems likely.
>>> 
>> 
>> 
>> They could form a new conference with East and West divisions.  They could
>> call it the Big Least. :-)
>> 
>> Clark Zahn
>> 
>> 
>> _______________________________________________
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>> nwu-sports at tssi.com
>> http://romaine.tssi.com/mailman/listinfo/nwu-sports
>> 
>> 
>> 
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From Jeff.Beamsley at covisint.com  Mon Sep 19 20:39:58 2011
From: Jeff.Beamsley at covisint.com (Beamsley, Jeff)
Date: Mon, 19 Sep 2011 21:39:58 -0400
Subject: [NU Sports] Big East bones
In-Reply-To: <FA7822545C26F244823CA5D312ABBDEA06BF574A@nasa-dtw-ex006.nasa.cpwr.corp>
References: <23517871.1316462583130.JavaMail.root@elwamui-milano.atl.sa.earthlink.net>
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Message-ID: <606A303E-BA23-4E80-AECB-CA0F6D8AF76F@covisint.com>

No intent to offend. Just having a little light hearted fun. 

Jeff

Sent from my iPhone

On Sep 19, 2011, at 5:02 PM, "Beamsley, Jeff" <Jeff.Beamsley at covisint.com> wrote:

> How about the Big Waste?
> 
> Jeff
> 
> ________________________________
> 
> From: nwu-sports-bounces at tssi.com on behalf of Clark Zahn
> Sent: Mon 9/19/2011 4:03 PM
> To: Northwestern Wildcats
> Subject: Re: [NU Sports] Big East bones
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Mike Nolan <nolan at tssi.com>
> 
>> A marriage of convenience (which is never convenient) between the remnants
>> of the Big East and the remnants of the Big 12 seems likely. 
>> 
> 
> 
> They could form a new conference with East and West divisions.  They could call it the Big Least. :-)
> 
> Clark Zahn
> 
> 
> _______________________________________________
> nwu-sports site list
> nwu-sports at tssi.com
> http://romaine.tssi.com/mailman/listinfo/nwu-sports
> 
> 
> 
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> 


From clzahn at mindspring.com  Mon Sep 19 20:50:16 2011
From: clzahn at mindspring.com (Clark Zahn)
Date: Mon, 19 Sep 2011 18:50:16 -0700
Subject: [NU Sports] Merger: Big East & BIg 12
Message-ID: <4E77F158.5000308@mindspring.com>

We joked about it, but it might happen.

http://espn.go.com/college-football/story/_/id/6993604/big-east-big-12-talking-possible-merger-report-says 


From nolan at tssi.com  Mon Sep 19 21:02:39 2011
From: nolan at tssi.com (Mike Nolan)
Date: Mon, 19 Sep 2011 21:02:39 -0500 (CDT)
Subject: [NU Sports] Merger: Big East & BIg 12
In-Reply-To: <4E77F158.5000308@mindspring.com>
Message-ID: <20110920020239.E2D5A611EE@romaine.tssi.com>

> We joked about it, but it might happen.

I wasn't joking.
--
Mike Nolan

> 
> http://espn.go.com/college-football/story/_/id/6993604/big-east-big-12-talking-possible-merger-report-says 
> 
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From sportsbiz at gmail.com  Mon Sep 19 21:12:55 2011
From: sportsbiz at gmail.com (Mark Ament)
Date: Mon, 19 Sep 2011 22:12:55 -0400
Subject: [NU Sports] Merger: Big East & BIg 12
In-Reply-To: <20110920020239.E2D5A611EE@romaine.tssi.com>
References: <20110920020239.E2D5A611EE@romaine.tssi.com>
Message-ID: <2C1AF0A1-2B2D-493D-BBFC-F694EA50BBAD@gmail.com>

Neither was I

 Mark S. Ament
sportsbiz at gmail.com



On Sep 19, 2011, at 10:02 PM, nolan at tssi.com (Mike Nolan) wrote:

>> We joked about it, but it might happen.
> 
> I wasn't joking.
> --
> Mike Nolan
> 
>> 
>> http://espn.go.com/college-football/story/_/id/6993604/big-east-big-12-talking-possible-merger-report-says 
>> 
>> _______________________________________________
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From scottzel at gmail.com  Mon Sep 19 22:40:30 2011
From: scottzel at gmail.com (Scott Zeller, M.D.)
Date: Mon, 19 Sep 2011 20:40:30 -0700
Subject: [NU Sports] Merger: Big East & BIg 12
In-Reply-To: <2C1AF0A1-2B2D-493D-BBFC-F694EA50BBAD@gmail.com>
References: <20110920020239.E2D5A611EE@romaine.tssi.com>
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Since they would combine the Big East schools with colleges in the Missouri
Valley region, I suggest the new conference be called:

*The Big Valley*

 (of course, starring Barbara Stanwyck, Richard Long, Lee Majors, Linda
Evans and Peter Breck)

On Mon, Sep 19, 2011 at 7:12 PM, Mark Ament <sportsbiz at gmail.com> wrote:

> Neither was I
>
>  Mark S. Ament
> sportsbiz at gmail.com
>
>
>
> On Sep 19, 2011, at 10:02 PM, nolan at tssi.com (Mike Nolan) wrote:
>
> >> We joked about it, but it might happen.
> >
> > I wasn't joking.
> > --
> > Mike Nolan
> >
> >>
> >>
> http://espn.go.com/college-football/story/_/id/6993604/big-east-big-12-talking-possible-merger-report-says
> >>
> >> _______________________________________________
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>
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From clzahn at mindspring.com  Mon Sep 19 22:40:52 2011
From: clzahn at mindspring.com (Clark Zahn)
Date: Mon, 19 Sep 2011 20:40:52 -0700
Subject: [NU Sports] Merger: Big East & BIg 12
In-Reply-To: <20110920020239.E2D5A611EE@romaine.tssi.com>
References: <20110920020239.E2D5A611EE@romaine.tssi.com>
Message-ID: <4E780B44.8070100@mindspring.com>

On 09/19/2011 07:02 PM, Mike Nolan wrote:
>> We joked about it, but it might happen.
> I wasn't joking.
> --
> Mike Nolan
>
>> http://espn.go.com/college-football/story/_/id/6993604/big-east-big-12-talking-possible-merger-report-says
>>
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>>
>
> I guess my reading skills are deteriorating.  I didn't notice that link before.  That's what I get for skimming through my email.

Clark Zahn



From nolan at tssi.com  Mon Sep 19 22:46:38 2011
From: nolan at tssi.com (Mike Nolan)
Date: Mon, 19 Sep 2011 22:46:38 -0500 (CDT)
Subject: [NU Sports] Merger: Big East & BIg 12
In-Reply-To: <CAHChqvit1R3z+PotTVrBNgJBZCrAQhh6SzqSAsKe0UxBytuvEw@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <20110920034639.1474E6155E@romaine.tssi.com>

> Since they would combine the Big East schools with colleges in the Missouri
> Valley region, I suggest the new conference be called:
> 
> *The Big Valley*
> 
>  (of course, starring Barbara Stanwyck, Richard Long, Lee Majors, Linda
> Evans and Peter Breck)

Could be better than any suggestions Jim Delaney might offer.
--
Mike Nolan


From whosonfirst81 at yahoo.com  Tue Sep 20 00:12:47 2011
From: whosonfirst81 at yahoo.com (Ben Adler)
Date: Mon, 19 Sep 2011 22:12:47 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [NU Sports] Merger: Big East & BIg 12
In-Reply-To: <20110920034639.1474E6155E@romaine.tssi.com>
References: <CAHChqvit1R3z+PotTVrBNgJBZCrAQhh6SzqSAsKe0UxBytuvEw@mail.gmail.com>
 <20110920034639.1474E6155E@romaine.tssi.com>
Message-ID: <1316495567.95635.YahooMailNeo@web65607.mail.ac4.yahoo.com>

Anyone else notice what to me is by far the most intriguing part of the ESPN story?
?"According to a source close to Notre Dame, the Irish's first choice is to remain as an independent in football and stay in the Big East in all other sports. 
If the Irish decide they can't remain as a football independent then the choice would be to pursue the ACC before the Big Ten. 
But the latter is not the ideal scenario for the fiercely independent Irish. The Irish don't want to give up independence unless forced."
?
Really?? ACC over Big Ten?? Under what logic?
?
Are they simply too stubborn to come crawling to the conference that they've rejected repeatedly over the years?? Or do they have some objective reason for preferring the ACC?
?
Ben

From: Mike Nolan <nolan at tssi.com>
To: "Scott Zeller, M.D." <scottzel at gmail.com>
Cc: NUSPORTS <nwu-sports at tssi.com>
Sent: Monday, September 19, 2011 8:46 PM
Subject: Re: [NU Sports] Merger: Big East & BIg 12

> Since they would combine the Big East schools with colleges in the Missouri
> Valley region, I suggest the new conference be called:
> 
> *The Big Valley*
> 
>? (of course, starring Barbara Stanwyck, Richard Long, Lee Majors, Linda
> Evans and Peter Breck)

Could be better than any suggestions Jim Delaney might offer.
--
Mike Nolan

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From nolan at tssi.com  Tue Sep 20 00:19:43 2011
From: nolan at tssi.com (Mike Nolan)
Date: Tue, 20 Sep 2011 00:19:43 -0500 (CDT)
Subject: [NU Sports] Merger: Big East & BIg 12
In-Reply-To: <1316495567.95635.YahooMailNeo@web65607.mail.ac4.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <20110920051943.84A2F611ED@romaine.tssi.com>

> Really? ACC over Big Ten?  Under what logic?

Perhaps Miltonian logic:  Better to reign in hell than serve in heaven.
--
Mike Nolan


From sjtruog at yahoo.com  Tue Sep 20 00:54:00 2011
From: sjtruog at yahoo.com (SjT (Stephen J. Truog))
Date: Mon, 19 Sep 2011 22:54:00 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [NU Sports] One of the more interesting analyses ...
Message-ID: <1316498040.50974.YahooMailNeo@web121706.mail.ne1.yahoo.com>

Sorry if it's been posted amid the flurry of conference stuff I went through on the list today, but I don't think it has.

The NYTimes' excellent "The Quad" college sports blog looks at the numbers behind the conference expansion game of musical chairs ...

http://thequad.blogs.nytimes.com/2011/09/19/the-geography-of-college-football-fans-and-realignment-chaos/?src=twrhp


I'm not sure I understand all the data :) ... but really shows the smart moves made by the Big Ten and SEC in the recent realignments (and why Rutgers or Maryland wouldn't necessarily be a good move for Jim Delaney ... though the numbers fail to take into account the "stupid division names" X-factor).

Interesting read and the stat nerds like me on the list will love sifting through the data and graphics!

GO CATS!!!
-SjT

?
* * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *
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From rstetson at capps-assoc.com  Tue Sep 20 06:48:30 2011
From: rstetson at capps-assoc.com (Roy S. Lamberton)
Date: Tue, 20 Sep 2011 07:48:30 -0400
Subject: [NU Sports] Merger: Big East & BIg 12
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As I remember it was "Miss Barbara Stanwick"

And you didn't mess with mama, make a move on the daughter or marry any of the boys.

rsl

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-----Original Message-----
From: nwu-sports-bounces at tssi.com [mailto:nwu-sports-bounces at tssi.com] On Behalf Of Scott
Zeller, M.D.
Sent: Monday, September 19, 2011 11:41 PM
To: NUSPORTS
Subject: Re: [NU Sports] Merger: Big East & BIg 12

Since they would combine the Big East schools with colleges in the Missouri
Valley region, I suggest the new conference be called:

*The Big Valley*

 (of course, starring Barbara Stanwyck, Richard Long, Lee Majors, Linda
Evans and Peter Breck)

On Mon, Sep 19, 2011 at 7:12 PM, Mark Ament <sportsbiz at gmail.com> wrote:

> Neither was I
>
>  Mark S. Ament
> sportsbiz at gmail.com
>
>
>
> On Sep 19, 2011, at 10:02 PM, nolan at tssi.com (Mike Nolan) wrote:
>
> >> We joked about it, but it might happen.
> >
> > I wasn't joking.
> > --
> > Mike Nolan
> >
> >>
> >>
>
http://espn.go.com/college-football/story/_/id/6993604/big-east-big-12-talking-possible-me
rger-report-says
> >>
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From rstetson at capps-assoc.com  Tue Sep 20 06:49:33 2011
From: rstetson at capps-assoc.com (Roy S. Lamberton)
Date: Tue, 20 Sep 2011 07:49:33 -0400
Subject: [NU Sports] Merger: Big East & BIg 12
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They probably think they can dominate the ACC easier than the Big 10.

It is all about W/L to them, or so it seems to me.

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  Senior League Softball World Series
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-----Original Message-----
From: nwu-sports-bounces at tssi.com [mailto:nwu-sports-bounces at tssi.com] On Behalf Of Ben
Adler
Sent: Tuesday, September 20, 2011 1:13 AM
To: NUSPORTS
Subject: Re: [NU Sports] Merger: Big East & BIg 12

Anyone else notice what to me is by far the most intriguing part of the ESPN story?
?"According to a source close to Notre Dame, the Irish's first choice is to remain as an
independent in football and stay in the Big East in all other sports. 
If the Irish decide they can't remain as a football independent then the choice would be
to pursue the ACC before the Big Ten. 
But the latter is not the ideal scenario for the fiercely independent Irish. The Irish
don't want to give up independence unless forced."
?
Really?? ACC over Big Ten?? Under what logic?
?
Are they simply too stubborn to come crawling to the conference that they've rejected
repeatedly over the years?? Or do they have some objective reason for preferring the ACC?
?
Ben

From: Mike Nolan <nolan at tssi.com>
To: "Scott Zeller, M.D." <scottzel at gmail.com>
Cc: NUSPORTS <nwu-sports at tssi.com>
Sent: Monday, September 19, 2011 8:46 PM
Subject: Re: [NU Sports] Merger: Big East & BIg 12

> Since they would combine the Big East schools with colleges in the Missouri
> Valley region, I suggest the new conference be called:
> 
> *The Big Valley*
> 
>? (of course, starring Barbara Stanwyck, Richard Long, Lee Majors, Linda
> Evans and Peter Breck)

Could be better than any suggestions Jim Delaney might offer.
--
Mike Nolan

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From rstetson at capps-assoc.com  Tue Sep 20 06:50:27 2011
From: rstetson at capps-assoc.com (Roy S. Lamberton)
Date: Tue, 20 Sep 2011 07:50:27 -0400
Subject: [NU Sports] One of the more interesting analyses ...
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Gee, and I thought it was all about TV money.

rsl

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  Senior League Softball World Series
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Northwestern University - Speech 1974 - 
Chi Phi: Pi 1974, KD 1968
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-----Original Message-----
From: nwu-sports-bounces at tssi.com [mailto:nwu-sports-bounces at tssi.com] On Behalf Of SjT
(Stephen J. Truog)
Sent: Tuesday, September 20, 2011 1:54 AM
To: NUSPORTS
Subject: [NU Sports] One of the more interesting analyses ...

Sorry if it's been posted amid the flurry of conference stuff I went through on the list
today, but I don't think it has.

The NYTimes' excellent "The Quad" college sports blog looks at the numbers behind the
conference expansion game of musical chairs ...

http://thequad.blogs.nytimes.com/2011/09/19/the-geography-of-college-football-fans-and-rea
lignment-chaos/?src=twrhp


I'm not sure I understand all the data :) ... but really shows the smart moves made by the
Big Ten and SEC in the recent realignments (and why Rutgers or Maryland wouldn't
necessarily be a good move for Jim Delaney ... though the numbers fail to take into
account the "stupid division names" X-factor).

Interesting read and the stat nerds like me on the list will love sifting through the data
and graphics!

GO CATS!!!
-SjT

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From sportsbiz at gmail.com  Tue Sep 20 10:02:16 2011
From: sportsbiz at gmail.com (Sportsbiz)
Date: Tue, 20 Sep 2011 11:02:16 -0400
Subject: [NU Sports] Merger: Big East & BIg 12
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Perhaps, incorrectly, they believe the ACC will cut them a deal letting them
keep NBC which they know the Big Ten won't do.  In that case, I think
they'll be very surprised since the ACC has shared everything equally since
the day it was founded back in 1953 (can you tell I also went to an ACC
school).  Just like the Big Ten, equality is a bedrock principle for the
ACC.  Welcome to your nightmare Irish.
Mark


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On Tue, Sep 20, 2011 at 1:12 AM, Ben Adler <whosonfirst81 at yahoo.com> wrote:

> Anyone else notice what to me is by far the most intriguing part of the
> ESPN story?
>  "According to a source close to Notre Dame, the Irish's first choice is to
> remain as an independent in football and stay in the Big East in all other
> sports.
> If the Irish decide they can't remain as a football independent then the
> choice would be to pursue the ACC before the Big Ten.
> But the latter is not the ideal scenario for the fiercely independent
> Irish. The Irish don't want to give up independence unless forced."
>
> Really?  ACC over Big Ten?  Under what logic?
>
> Are they simply too stubborn to come crawling to the conference that
> they've rejected repeatedly over the years?  Or do they have some objective
> reason for preferring the ACC?
>
> Ben
>
> From: Mike Nolan <nolan at tssi.com>
> To: "Scott Zeller, M.D." <scottzel at gmail.com>
> Cc: NUSPORTS <nwu-sports at tssi.com>
> Sent: Monday, September 19, 2011 8:46 PM
> Subject: Re: [NU Sports] Merger: Big East & BIg 12
>
> > Since they would combine the Big East schools with colleges in the
> Missouri
> > Valley region, I suggest the new conference be called:
> >
> > *The Big Valley*
> >
> >  (of course, starring Barbara Stanwyck, Richard Long, Lee Majors, Linda
> > Evans and Peter Breck)
>
> Could be better than any suggestions Jim Delaney might offer.
> --
> Mike Nolan
>
> _______________________________________________
> nwu-sports site list
> nwu-sports at tssi.com
> http://romaine.tssi.com/mailman/listinfo/nwu-sports
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From rstetson at capps-assoc.com  Tue Sep 20 11:13:44 2011
From: rstetson at capps-assoc.com (Roy S. Lamberton)
Date: Tue, 20 Sep 2011 12:13:44 -0400
Subject: [NU Sports] Merger: Big East & BIg 12
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References: <CAHChqvit1R3z+PotTVrBNgJBZCrAQhh6SzqSAsKe0UxBytuvEw@mail.gmail.com>
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 <1316495567.95635.YahooMailNeo@web65607.mail.ac4.yahoo.com>
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It always comes back to the TV money, doesn't it.

rsl

++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
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Computer Applications & Support Associates
Coach Roy's Random Thoughts - http://coachroy.org
-------------------- Also ----------------------
"Commissioner" Delaware American Legion Baseball
Director Media Relations - Little League 
  Senior League Softball World Series
CTR2 USN (67-70) - CTRCS USNR (Ret) (64-67/70-95)
Northwestern University - Speech 1974 - 
Chi Phi: Pi 1974, KD 1968
Publisher Emeritus: Purple Reign (Fox Sports)
================================================
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those of any organizations of which I am a member.
------------------------------------------------
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-----Original Message-----
From: nwu-sports-bounces at tssi.com [mailto:nwu-sports-bounces at tssi.com] On Behalf Of
Sportsbiz
Sent: Tuesday, September 20, 2011 11:02 AM
To: Ben Adler
Cc: NUSPORTS
Subject: Re: [NU Sports] Merger: Big East & BIg 12

Perhaps, incorrectly, they believe the ACC will cut them a deal letting them
keep NBC which they know the Big Ten won't do.  In that case, I think
they'll be very surprised since the ACC has shared everything equally since
the day it was founded back in 1953 (can you tell I also went to an ACC
school).  Just like the Big Ten, equality is a bedrock principle for the
ACC.  Welcome to your nightmare Irish.
Mark


*Mark S. Ament*
sportsbiz at gmail.com
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On Tue, Sep 20, 2011 at 1:12 AM, Ben Adler <whosonfirst81 at yahoo.com> wrote:

> Anyone else notice what to me is by far the most intriguing part of the
> ESPN story?
>  "According to a source close to Notre Dame, the Irish's first choice is to
> remain as an independent in football and stay in the Big East in all other
> sports.
> If the Irish decide they can't remain as a football independent then the
> choice would be to pursue the ACC before the Big Ten.
> But the latter is not the ideal scenario for the fiercely independent
> Irish. The Irish don't want to give up independence unless forced."
>
> Really?  ACC over Big Ten?  Under what logic?
>
> Are they simply too stubborn to come crawling to the conference that
> they've rejected repeatedly over the years?  Or do they have some objective
> reason for preferring the ACC?
>
> Ben
>
> From: Mike Nolan <nolan at tssi.com>
> To: "Scott Zeller, M.D." <scottzel at gmail.com>
> Cc: NUSPORTS <nwu-sports at tssi.com>
> Sent: Monday, September 19, 2011 8:46 PM
> Subject: Re: [NU Sports] Merger: Big East & BIg 12
>
> > Since they would combine the Big East schools with colleges in the
> Missouri
> > Valley region, I suggest the new conference be called:
> >
> > *The Big Valley*
> >
> >  (of course, starring Barbara Stanwyck, Richard Long, Lee Majors, Linda
> > Evans and Peter Breck)
>
> Could be better than any suggestions Jim Delaney might offer.
> --
> Mike Nolan
>
> _______________________________________________
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> nwu-sports at tssi.com
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From nolan at tssi.com  Tue Sep 20 11:49:14 2011
From: nolan at tssi.com (Mike Nolan)
Date: Tue, 20 Sep 2011 11:49:14 -0500 (CDT)
Subject: [NU Sports] Merger: Big East & BIg 12
In-Reply-To: <000001cc77b0$45de0770$d19a1650$@com>
Message-ID: <20110920164915.2BE1D611EB@romaine.tssi.com>

> It always comes back to the TV money, doesn't it.

Yep, and you can thank Roone Arledge for getting that ball rolling years ago
when ABC put in the first big money bid for college football rights,
and Bill Rasmussen (founder of ESPN) for carrying Roone's idea to its
ultimate conclusion.
--
Mike Nolan


From clzahn at mindspring.com  Tue Sep 20 11:57:57 2011
From: clzahn at mindspring.com (Clark Zahn)
Date: Tue, 20 Sep 2011 09:57:57 -0700 (GMT-07:00)
Subject: [NU Sports] Merger: Big East & BIg 12
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-----Original Message-----
>From: "Roy S. Lamberton" <rstetson at capps-assoc.com>
>Sent: Sep 20, 2011 9:13 AM
>To: 'Sportsbiz' <sportsbiz at gmail.com>, 'Ben Adler' <whosonfirst81 at yahoo.com>
>Cc: 'NUSPORTS' <nwu-sports at tssi.com>
>Subject: Re: [NU Sports] Merger: Big East & BIg 12
>
>It always comes back to the TV money, doesn't it.
>
>rsl
>

Increased travel harms the student athletes and destroying traditional rivalries will lesson ticket sales.  Will we come to the point where far fewer people attend the games and just the sports nuts watch them on TV?  Maybe the athletes themselves will no longer be true students.  Then college FB would just a bigger NFL.

Clark




From nolan at tssi.com  Tue Sep 20 12:53:36 2011
From: nolan at tssi.com (Mike Nolan)
Date: Tue, 20 Sep 2011 12:53:36 -0500 (CDT)
Subject: [NU Sports] Merger: Big East & BIg 12
In-Reply-To: <23253826.1316537878342.JavaMail.root@elwamui-hound.atl.sa.earthlink.net>
Message-ID: <20110920175336.6F38260631@romaine.tssi.com>

> Increased travel harms the student athletes and destroying traditional rivalries will lesson ticket sales.  Will we come to the point where far fewer people attend the games and just the sports nuts watch them on TV?  Maybe the athletes themselves will no longer be true students.  Then college FB would just a bigger NFL.

The travel for 6 road games a year in football (bigger schools often have 
just 5 road games because they want 7 home games) aren't a major factor, 
northern college baseball teams often spend half the winter semester
playing in warmer weather and college basketball teams play a lot more road 
games, more of them mid-week, too.

Northwestern will sell far more tickets for the Nebraska game in Evanston than
for geographically close schools like Illinois, Indiana and Purdue.  

But when is the last time (if ever) that NU had anything close to a sellout
where half or more of the crowd wasn't from the visiting school?  
--
Mike Nolan


From clzahn at mindspring.com  Tue Sep 20 09:37:28 2011
From: clzahn at mindspring.com (Clark Zahn)
Date: Tue, 20 Sep 2011 07:37:28 -0700 (GMT-07:00)
Subject: [NU Sports] Merger: Big East & BIg 12
Message-ID: <4697051.1316529449145.JavaMail.root@elwamui-ovcar.atl.sa.earthlink.net>




-----Original Message-----
>From: Mike Nolan <nolan at tssi.com>
>Sent: Sep 20, 2011 10:53 AM
>To: clzahn at mindspring.com
>Cc: 'NUSPORTS' <nwu-sports at tssi.com>
>Subject: Re: [NU Sports] Merger: Big East & BIg 12
>
>> Increased travel harms the student athletes and destroying traditional rivalries will lesson ticket sales.  Will we come to the point where far fewer people attend the games and just the sports nuts watch them on TV?  Maybe the athletes themselves will no longer be true students.  Then college FB would just a bigger NFL.
>
>The travel for 6 road games a year in football (bigger schools often have 
>just 5 road games because they want 7 home games) aren't a major factor, 
>northern college baseball teams often spend half the winter semester
>playing in warmer weather and college basketball teams play a lot more road 
>games, more of them mid-week, too.
>
>Northwestern will sell far more tickets for the Nebraska game in Evanston than
>for geographically close schools like Illinois, Indiana and Purdue.  
>
>But when is the last time (if ever) that NU had anything close to a sellout
>where half or more of the crowd wasn't from the visiting school?  
>--
>Mike Nolan

I was pondering the effect of the potential realignments to all of college FB, not just to NU.  The B1G will probably come out of it OK.






From jintsjason at me.com  Tue Sep 20 13:08:34 2011
From: jintsjason at me.com (Jason Singer)
Date: Tue, 20 Sep 2011 11:08:34 -0700
Subject: [NU Sports] Nice ESPN article about our women's soccer team
Message-ID: <AE8A53A0-6889-4DAE-A869-FC81DAA95AB0@me.com>

http://espn.go.com/college-sports/story/_/id/6993991/ncaa-women-soccer-child-immigrants-natalie-lagunas-fulfills-parents-dream-northwestern-wildcats

Jason Singer
jintsjason at me.com
jason at jasonsinger.com





From nolan at tssi.com  Tue Sep 20 13:10:30 2011
From: nolan at tssi.com (Mike Nolan)
Date: Tue, 20 Sep 2011 13:10:30 -0500 (CDT)
Subject: [NU Sports] Merger: Big East & BIg 12
In-Reply-To: <4697051.1316529449145.JavaMail.root@elwamui-ovcar.atl.sa.earthlink.net>
Message-ID: <20110920181031.07F32611ED@romaine.tssi.com>

> I was pondering the effect of the potential realignments to all of college FB, not just to NU.  The B1G will probably come out of it OK.

I agree that the B1G should do well, no matter what N*D* decides to do.  

And the impact probably isn't as big as it seems.  There are around 117 schools 
in the FBS subdivision, this realignment wave is likely to involve no more
than 20% of them, probably less, and it will have little impact on the 
FCS subdivision and even less on Divisions II and III.
--
Mike Nolan



From sportsbiz at gmail.com  Tue Sep 20 13:43:01 2011
From: sportsbiz at gmail.com (Sportsbiz)
Date: Tue, 20 Sep 2011 14:43:01 -0400
Subject: [NU Sports] Merger: Big East & BIg 12
In-Reply-To: <20110920181031.07F32611ED@romaine.tssi.com>
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It's not football where the travel costs are the issue - it's the Olympic
sports.  Football will always pay for itself at the top 48 or 64 schools,
but the increased travel costs and lost class time can be a real problem.  I
know that the new members of the Big East found huge new travel bills for
all of the Olympic sports and the conference had to go to great lengths to
minimize travel time.  For football and basketball with charter flights,
it's not that big a deal, but all other sports travel commercial and then it
becomes a nightmare.

There are now 120 FBS schools - figure no more than 64 involved in this
latest round of conference roulette.
Mark

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On Tue, Sep 20, 2011 at 2:10 PM, Mike Nolan <nolan at tssi.com> wrote:

> > I was pondering the effect of the potential realignments to all of
> college FB, not just to NU.  The B1G will probably come out of it OK.
>
> I agree that the B1G should do well, no matter what N*D* decides to do.
>
> And the impact probably isn't as big as it seems.  There are around 117
> schools
> in the FBS subdivision, this realignment wave is likely to involve no more
> than 20% of them, probably less, and it will have little impact on the
> FCS subdivision and even less on Divisions II and III.
> --
> Mike Nolan
>
>
> _______________________________________________
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>

From jleonard518 at yahoo.com  Tue Sep 20 15:34:22 2011
From: jleonard518 at yahoo.com (Jim Leonard)
Date: Tue, 20 Sep 2011 13:34:22 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [NU Sports] 64 out of 120
Message-ID: <1316550862.28127.YahooMailNeo@web36808.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

My fear is that the 64 teams in the 4 conferences will eventually break from the NCAA. That will eventually mean players get paid and it probably means they can no longer play the other 56 schools. That would mean NU would have a very hard time competing. This is all a mistake.?

My friend sent me a report that Missouri has an offer from the SEC. This could all be decided before Persa is back.

Jim


===========================================================================
There are now 120 FBS schools - figure no more than 64 involved in this
latest round of conference roulette.
Mark

*Mark S. Ament*

From clzahn at mindspring.com  Tue Sep 20 15:58:06 2011
From: clzahn at mindspring.com (Clark Zahn)
Date: Tue, 20 Sep 2011 13:58:06 -0700 (GMT-07:00)
Subject: [NU Sports] 64 out of 120
Message-ID: <5742857.1316552286905.JavaMail.root@elwamui-mouette.atl.sa.earthlink.net>

If that happens I don't think I want NU to be one of the 64, even if we could compete.


-----Original Message-----
>From: Jim Leonard <jleonard518 at yahoo.com>
>Sent: Sep 20, 2011 1:34 PM
>To: Northwestern Wildcats <nwu-sports at tssi.com>
>Subject: [NU Sports] 64 out of 120
>
>My fear is that the 64 teams in the 4 conferences will eventually break from the NCAA. That will eventually mean players get paid and it probably means they can no longer play the other 56 schools. That would mean NU would have a very hard time competing. This is all a mistake.?
>
>My friend sent me a report that Missouri has an offer from the SEC. This could all be decided before Persa is back.
>
>Jim
>




From alan.abrahamson at gmail.com  Tue Sep 20 16:02:55 2011
From: alan.abrahamson at gmail.com (Alan Abrahamson)
Date: Tue, 20 Sep 2011 14:02:55 -0700
Subject: [NU Sports] 64 out of 120
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As Keith Jackson might have said, "Whoa, Nellie."

Maybe Jim will, in time, be proven right. But let's cross that bridge when
we get there ...





On Tue, Sep 20, 2011 at 1:58 PM, Clark Zahn <clzahn at mindspring.com> wrote:

> If that happens I don't think I want NU to be one of the 64, even if we
> could compete.
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> >From: Jim Leonard <jleonard518 at yahoo.com>
> >Sent: Sep 20, 2011 1:34 PM
> >To: Northwestern Wildcats <nwu-sports at tssi.com>
> >Subject: [NU Sports] 64 out of 120
> >
> >My fear is that the 64 teams in the 4 conferences will eventually break
> from the NCAA. That will eventually mean players get paid and it probably
> means they can no longer play the other 56 schools. That would mean NU would
> have a very hard time competing. This is all a mistake.
> >
> >My friend sent me a report that Missouri has an offer from the SEC. This
> could all be decided before Persa is back.
> >
> >Jim
> >
>
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> nwu-sports site list
> nwu-sports at tssi.com
> http://romaine.tssi.com/mailman/listinfo/nwu-sports
>

From jleonard518 at yahoo.com  Tue Sep 20 16:37:42 2011
From: jleonard518 at yahoo.com (Jim Leonard)
Date: Tue, 20 Sep 2011 14:37:42 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [NU Sports] 64 out of 120
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I would really like to be wrong. I think this realignment is all a huge mistake and takes us one giant step closer to ruining college athletics. However, once the four 16-team conferences are in place, about 98% of the revenue and brand recognition will be on one side of the fence. Historically, that balance of power will not sustain itself.?

Jim


________________________________
From: Alan Abrahamson <alan.abrahamson at gmail.com>
To: Clark Zahn <clzahn at mindspring.com>
Cc: Northwestern Wildcats <nwu-sports at tssi.com>
Sent: Tuesday, September 20, 2011 4:02 PM
Subject: Re: [NU Sports] 64 out of 120

As Keith Jackson might have said, "Whoa, Nellie."

Maybe Jim will, in time, be proven right. But let's cross that bridge when
we get there ...





On Tue, Sep 20, 2011 at 1:58 PM, Clark Zahn <clzahn at mindspring.com> wrote:

> If that happens I don't think I want NU to be one of the 64, even if we
> could compete.
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> >From: Jim Leonard <jleonard518 at yahoo.com>
> >Sent: Sep 20, 2011 1:34 PM
> >To: Northwestern Wildcats <nwu-sports at tssi.com>
> >Subject: [NU Sports] 64 out of 120
> >
> >My fear is that the 64 teams in the 4 conferences will eventually break
> from the NCAA. That will eventually mean players get paid and it probably
> means they can no longer play the other 56 schools. That would mean NU would
> have a very hard time competing. This is all a mistake.
> >
> >My friend sent me a report that Missouri has an offer from the SEC. This
> could all be decided before Persa is back.
> >
> >Jim
> >
>
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> nwu-sports site list
> nwu-sports at tssi.com
> http://romaine.tssi.com/mailman/listinfo/nwu-sports
>
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From j-hodges at alumni.northwestern.edu  Tue Sep 20 17:17:44 2011
From: j-hodges at alumni.northwestern.edu (Jonathan Hodges)
Date: Tue, 20 Sep 2011 18:17:44 -0400
Subject: [NU Sports] 64 out of 120
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At this point I believe the conference realignment is mostly a TV money grab
and not a true split away from the NCAA.  I think we'll see the ACC & SEC
stop at 14 (mostly to expand their TV footprint) while the Big Ten will
likely stay on the sidelines at 12 (doesn't last year's move look good in
retrospect, and the process was much better than what's going on this
round).  Oh, and I don't see the BCS being substantially changed (maybe the
Mountain West, with whatever schools end up there, gets a bid in place of
one of the failed conferences if the Big East/XII "leftovers" merge - or,
then again, the BCS could always lift the 2 schools/conference limit and
just add another at large bid, which would give them more flexibility and
the ability to make more money).  Also, I think ND will keep its NBC
contract, BCS deal, and independence.

Although the media loves to play up the paying player story, the school
presidents are strongly against it and aren't close to budging (even if a
handful of coaches give it some lip service - ultimately that would be a bad
move for them, though, as they reap the biggest rewards with their huge
contracts nowadays).  Also, there's all of those other sports that have a
home with the NCAA, and IF a group of schools were to break away from the
NCAA in football, things would be rather uncomfortable and if basketball
doesn't stay under the NCAA umbrella (with the tourney financing the whole
organization) then it could collapse.  Those breakaway schools don't want to
create a whole new organization for all of the other sports.

Also, I don't see a push to a playoff right now.  Again, maybe somewhere
down the road, but right now the reorganization is not about creating some
kind of balanced mega conference bracket; it's about TV money and
establishing large footprints.

But then again I don't think anyone could have predicted any of this
happening before the Big Ten announced it was looking around just over a
year and a half ago, so what do I know.  At this point, just be glad that
Northwestern has been in the same conference since its founding in 1896 and
sit back and enjoy the ride given that the Big Ten is certainly one of the
top two most stable conferences in the nation and NU doesn't have to worry
about going anywhere.

--
Jonathan Hodges
Contributor, HailToPurple
Web: http://www.hailtopurple.com/jhodges/
Twitter: @hailtopurple
Email: j-hodges at alumni.northwestern.edu



On Tue, Sep 20, 2011 at 5:37 PM, Jim Leonard <jleonard518 at yahoo.com> wrote:

> I would really like to be wrong. I think this realignment is all a huge
> mistake and takes us one giant step closer to ruining college athletics.
> However, once the four 16-team conferences are in place, about 98% of the
> revenue and brand recognition will be on one side of the fence.
> Historically, that balance of power will not sustain itself.
>
> Jim
>
>
> ________________________________
> From: Alan Abrahamson <alan.abrahamson at gmail.com>
> To: Clark Zahn <clzahn at mindspring.com>
> Cc: Northwestern Wildcats <nwu-sports at tssi.com>
> Sent: Tuesday, September 20, 2011 4:02 PM
> Subject: Re: [NU Sports] 64 out of 120
>
> As Keith Jackson might have said, "Whoa, Nellie."
>
> Maybe Jim will, in time, be proven right. But let's cross that bridge when
> we get there ...
>
>
>
>
>
> On Tue, Sep 20, 2011 at 1:58 PM, Clark Zahn <clzahn at mindspring.com> wrote:
>
> > If that happens I don't think I want NU to be one of the 64, even if we
> > could compete.
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > >From: Jim Leonard <jleonard518 at yahoo.com>
> > >Sent: Sep 20, 2011 1:34 PM
> > >To: Northwestern Wildcats <nwu-sports at tssi.com>
> > >Subject: [NU Sports] 64 out of 120
> > >
> > >My fear is that the 64 teams in the 4 conferences will eventually break
> > from the NCAA. That will eventually mean players get paid and it probably
> > means they can no longer play the other 56 schools. That would mean NU
> would
> > have a very hard time competing. This is all a mistake.
> > >
> > >My friend sent me a report that Missouri has an offer from the SEC. This
> > could all be decided before Persa is back.
> > >
> > >Jim
> > >
> >
> >
> >
> > _______________________________________________
> > nwu-sports site list
> > nwu-sports at tssi.com
> > http://romaine.tssi.com/mailman/listinfo/nwu-sports
> >
> _______________________________________________
> nwu-sports site list
> nwu-sports at tssi.com
> http://romaine.tssi.com/mailman/listinfo/nwu-sports
> _______________________________________________
> nwu-sports site list
> nwu-sports at tssi.com
> http://romaine.tssi.com/mailman/listinfo/nwu-sports
>
>

From sportsbiz at gmail.com  Tue Sep 20 23:33:58 2011
From: sportsbiz at gmail.com (Sportsbiz)
Date: Wed, 21 Sep 2011 00:33:58 -0400
Subject: [NU Sports] 64 out of 120
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So, now the Pac-12 has decided they like 12 after all and the Big 10/Pac-12
symmetry will be maintained.  Oklahoma has laid down a demand that Texas
"reform" the Longhorn Network and the Big 12 fire the current commissioner
in which case they will stay.  Of course, now that the Pac-12 is holding,
they don't really have much of an alternative.  The SEC officially denies
the Missouri story but that may be only a delay until the Big 12 picture
clears and Missouri may want to wait to see what ultimately happens to the
Big 12.  The Missouri chancellor happens to be chairing the Big 12 executive
committee currently placing him in an awkward position to say the least  -
just ask the president of Pitt.

Meanwhile, in NYC, the remaining members of the Big East have recommitted to
the conference.  The only question is who exactly are the remaining
members.  UConn sent neither the AD nor the President to the meeting of ADs,
just a low level staffer, reinforcing the feeling that it was headed to the
ACC.  The identity of the Rutgers delegate isn't known.  TCU reportedly
wasn't invited but went anyway and Villanova was specifically not invited
and was all bent out of joint.  The Big East will now start sifting through
its list of expansion candidates, assuming the Big 12 stays together.  High
on the list are Houston, UCF, Navy, Air Force and East Carolina which
reportedly has already applied (in this case applied is not a pseudonym for
accepted).

While the picture starts to clear, still more fun days lie ahead.

Mark
*Mark S. Ament*
sportsbiz at gmail.com
SportsBiz - The Business of Sports
Illuminated<http://thesportsbizblog.blogspot.com>
When it comes to sports, you know it's all about the money
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*



On Tue, Sep 20, 2011 at 6:17 PM, Jonathan Hodges <
j-hodges at alumni.northwestern.edu> wrote:

> At this point I believe the conference realignment is mostly a TV money
> grab
> and not a true split away from the NCAA.  I think we'll see the ACC & SEC
> stop at 14 (mostly to expand their TV footprint) while the Big Ten will
> likely stay on the sidelines at 12 (doesn't last year's move look good in
> retrospect, and the process was much better than what's going on this
> round).  Oh, and I don't see the BCS being substantially changed (maybe the
> Mountain West, with whatever schools end up there, gets a bid in place of
> one of the failed conferences if the Big East/XII "leftovers" merge - or,
> then again, the BCS could always lift the 2 schools/conference limit and
> just add another at large bid, which would give them more flexibility and
> the ability to make more money).  Also, I think ND will keep its NBC
> contract, BCS deal, and independence.
>
> Although the media loves to play up the paying player story, the school
> presidents are strongly against it and aren't close to budging (even if a
> handful of coaches give it some lip service - ultimately that would be a
> bad
> move for them, though, as they reap the biggest rewards with their huge
> contracts nowadays).  Also, there's all of those other sports that have a
> home with the NCAA, and IF a group of schools were to break away from the
> NCAA in football, things would be rather uncomfortable and if basketball
> doesn't stay under the NCAA umbrella (with the tourney financing the whole
> organization) then it could collapse.  Those breakaway schools don't want
> to
> create a whole new organization for all of the other sports.
>
> Also, I don't see a push to a playoff right now.  Again, maybe somewhere
> down the road, but right now the reorganization is not about creating some
> kind of balanced mega conference bracket; it's about TV money and
> establishing large footprints.
>
> But then again I don't think anyone could have predicted any of this
> happening before the Big Ten announced it was looking around just over a
> year and a half ago, so what do I know.  At this point, just be glad that
> Northwestern has been in the same conference since its founding in 1896 and
> sit back and enjoy the ride given that the Big Ten is certainly one of the
> top two most stable conferences in the nation and NU doesn't have to worry
> about going anywhere.
>
> --
> Jonathan Hodges
> Contributor, HailToPurple
> Web: http://www.hailtopurple.com/jhodges/
> Twitter: @hailtopurple
> Email: j-hodges at alumni.northwestern.edu
>
>
>
> On Tue, Sep 20, 2011 at 5:37 PM, Jim Leonard <jleonard518 at yahoo.com>
> wrote:
>
> > I would really like to be wrong. I think this realignment is all a huge
> > mistake and takes us one giant step closer to ruining college athletics.
> > However, once the four 16-team conferences are in place, about 98% of the
> > revenue and brand recognition will be on one side of the fence.
> > Historically, that balance of power will not sustain itself.
> >
> > Jim
> >
> >
> > ________________________________
> > From: Alan Abrahamson <alan.abrahamson at gmail.com>
> > To: Clark Zahn <clzahn at mindspring.com>
> > Cc: Northwestern Wildcats <nwu-sports at tssi.com>
> > Sent: Tuesday, September 20, 2011 4:02 PM
> > Subject: Re: [NU Sports] 64 out of 120
> >
> > As Keith Jackson might have said, "Whoa, Nellie."
> >
> > Maybe Jim will, in time, be proven right. But let's cross that bridge
> when
> > we get there ...
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > On Tue, Sep 20, 2011 at 1:58 PM, Clark Zahn <clzahn at mindspring.com>
> wrote:
> >
> > > If that happens I don't think I want NU to be one of the 64, even if we
> > > could compete.
> > >
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > >From: Jim Leonard <jleonard518 at yahoo.com>
> > > >Sent: Sep 20, 2011 1:34 PM
> > > >To: Northwestern Wildcats <nwu-sports at tssi.com>
> > > >Subject: [NU Sports] 64 out of 120
> > > >
> > > >My fear is that the 64 teams in the 4 conferences will eventually
> break
> > > from the NCAA. That will eventually mean players get paid and it
> probably
> > > means they can no longer play the other 56 schools. That would mean NU
> > would
> > > have a very hard time competing. This is all a mistake.
> > > >
> > > >My friend sent me a report that Missouri has an offer from the SEC.
> This
> > > could all be decided before Persa is back.
> > > >
> > > >Jim
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > _______________________________________________
> > > nwu-sports site list
> > > nwu-sports at tssi.com
> > > http://romaine.tssi.com/mailman/listinfo/nwu-sports
> > >
> > _______________________________________________
> > nwu-sports site list
> > nwu-sports at tssi.com
> > http://romaine.tssi.com/mailman/listinfo/nwu-sports
> > _______________________________________________
> > nwu-sports site list
> > nwu-sports at tssi.com
> > http://romaine.tssi.com/mailman/listinfo/nwu-sports
> >
> >
> _______________________________________________
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> nwu-sports at tssi.com
> http://romaine.tssi.com/mailman/listinfo/nwu-sports
>

From nolan at tssi.com  Tue Sep 20 23:51:34 2011
From: nolan at tssi.com (Mike Nolan)
Date: Tue, 20 Sep 2011 23:51:34 -0500 (CDT)
Subject: [NU Sports] 64 out of 120
In-Reply-To: <CAPCH0EPTJZ=7QofoJRMmnfFY7jCegMbJzZ3g58afiue_ZKZPxQ@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <20110921045134.AB15161082@romaine.tssi.com>

There are also some people claiming that the Oklahoma Regents
meeting on Monday violated the Oklahoma Open Records law by
discussing the Big 12 matter in closed session.

Stay tuned for the next unpredictable episode of "Pigskin Peregrinations".
--
Mike Nolan


From Jeff.Beamsley at covisint.com  Wed Sep 21 09:25:37 2011
From: Jeff.Beamsley at covisint.com (Beamsley, Jeff)
Date: Wed, 21 Sep 2011 10:25:37 -0400
Subject: [NU Sports] 64 out of 120
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Reading the NYT article that Stephen posted does bring this whole
discussion into more focus.

While NU is the team with the smallest fan base in the BT (515K), it is
also the BT team with the greatest opportunity to expand its fan base
because of its location in the Chicago Metro area.  This is exactly what
Phillips is up to with the games at Wrigley and the "Chicago's Big Ten
Team" tag line.  According to this article, the Chicago college football
market has 1.75M fans who root for somebody.  

Once you get out of the BT and the SEC, NU and their existing fan base
can really hold their own in any other conference.

In the PAC-12, for example, NU would rank right in the middle just after
A State and ahead of Colorado, Az, O state, Utah, Stanford, and W State.
While all of those teams play good football, the west coast doesn't
really care about college sports.

The article also makes it clear why the BT can afford to stand pat.  The
BT already has the top three fan bases in the country (OSU, UoM, and
PSU).  Texas and ND are the only other teams with big enough fan bases
to make a difference to the BT.  All of the other teams in the top ten
already have solid conference commitments.  So the BT has plenty of
leverage to require any new team to accept both the BTN and an equal
revenue split. 

In the case of ND, they have a national fan base that could suffer in
any regional conference deal from losing the national exposure that they
currently have.  For example, ND is second only to Rutgers in the NYC
market.  Texas by comparison doesn't even rank.  So ND is likely to
remain independent for as long as they can.

That leaves Texas in an odd position.  They are a regional power.  The
Pac12 would like to have access to the football-crazed Texas market to
sell their good football product, but neither the Pac12 or the BT are
going to cut Texas a special deal.  Oklahoma has also said that Texas
will have to restructure their TV network in order to keep the Big12
alive.

Not sure Texas wants to go it alone, so it will be interesting to see
what they do.

Bottom line, though, is that NU appears to be in good shape with a lot
of upside.

Jeff  





-----Original Message-----
From: nwu-sports-bounces at tssi.com [mailto:nwu-sports-bounces at tssi.com]
On Behalf Of Sportsbiz
Sent: Wednesday, September 21, 2011 12:34 AM
To: Jonathan Hodges
Cc: Northwestern Wildcats
Subject: Re: [NU Sports] 64 out of 120

So, now the Pac-12 has decided they like 12 after all and the Big
10/Pac-12
symmetry will be maintained.  Oklahoma has laid down a demand that Texas
"reform" the Longhorn Network and the Big 12 fire the current
commissioner
in which case they will stay.  Of course, now that the Pac-12 is
holding,
they don't really have much of an alternative.  The SEC officially
denies
the Missouri story but that may be only a delay until the Big 12 picture
clears and Missouri may want to wait to see what ultimately happens to
the
Big 12.  The Missouri chancellor happens to be chairing the Big 12
executive
committee currently placing him in an awkward position to say the least
-
just ask the president of Pitt.

Meanwhile, in NYC, the remaining members of the Big East have
recommitted to
the conference.  The only question is who exactly are the remaining
members.  UConn sent neither the AD nor the President to the meeting of
ADs,
just a low level staffer, reinforcing the feeling that it was headed to
the
ACC.  The identity of the Rutgers delegate isn't known.  TCU reportedly
wasn't invited but went anyway and Villanova was specifically not
invited
and was all bent out of joint.  The Big East will now start sifting
through
its list of expansion candidates, assuming the Big 12 stays together.
High
on the list are Houston, UCF, Navy, Air Force and East Carolina which
reportedly has already applied (in this case applied is not a pseudonym
for
accepted).

While the picture starts to clear, still more fun days lie ahead.

Mark
*Mark S. Ament*
sportsbiz at gmail.com
SportsBiz - The Business of Sports
Illuminated<http://thesportsbizblog.blogspot.com>
When it comes to sports, you know it's all about the money
Follow me on Twitter <http://www.twitter.com/msament>


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*



On Tue, Sep 20, 2011 at 6:17 PM, Jonathan Hodges <
j-hodges at alumni.northwestern.edu> wrote:

> At this point I believe the conference realignment is mostly a TV
money
> grab
> and not a true split away from the NCAA.  I think we'll see the ACC &
SEC
> stop at 14 (mostly to expand their TV footprint) while the Big Ten
will
> likely stay on the sidelines at 12 (doesn't last year's move look good
in
> retrospect, and the process was much better than what's going on this
> round).  Oh, and I don't see the BCS being substantially changed
(maybe the
> Mountain West, with whatever schools end up there, gets a bid in place
of
> one of the failed conferences if the Big East/XII "leftovers" merge -
or,
> then again, the BCS could always lift the 2 schools/conference limit
and
> just add another at large bid, which would give them more flexibility
and
> the ability to make more money).  Also, I think ND will keep its NBC
> contract, BCS deal, and independence.
>
> Although the media loves to play up the paying player story, the
school
> presidents are strongly against it and aren't close to budging (even
if a
> handful of coaches give it some lip service - ultimately that would be
a
> bad
> move for them, though, as they reap the biggest rewards with their
huge
> contracts nowadays).  Also, there's all of those other sports that
have a
> home with the NCAA, and IF a group of schools were to break away from
the
> NCAA in football, things would be rather uncomfortable and if
basketball
> doesn't stay under the NCAA umbrella (with the tourney financing the
whole
> organization) then it could collapse.  Those breakaway schools don't
want
> to
> create a whole new organization for all of the other sports.
>
> Also, I don't see a push to a playoff right now.  Again, maybe
somewhere
> down the road, but right now the reorganization is not about creating
some
> kind of balanced mega conference bracket; it's about TV money and
> establishing large footprints.
>
> But then again I don't think anyone could have predicted any of this
> happening before the Big Ten announced it was looking around just over
a
> year and a half ago, so what do I know.  At this point, just be glad
that
> Northwestern has been in the same conference since its founding in
1896 and
> sit back and enjoy the ride given that the Big Ten is certainly one of
the
> top two most stable conferences in the nation and NU doesn't have to
worry
> about going anywhere.
>
> --
> Jonathan Hodges
> Contributor, HailToPurple
> Web: http://www.hailtopurple.com/jhodges/
> Twitter: @hailtopurple
> Email: j-hodges at alumni.northwestern.edu
>
>
>
> On Tue, Sep 20, 2011 at 5:37 PM, Jim Leonard <jleonard518 at yahoo.com>
> wrote:
>
> > I would really like to be wrong. I think this realignment is all a
huge
> > mistake and takes us one giant step closer to ruining college
athletics.
> > However, once the four 16-team conferences are in place, about 98%
of the
> > revenue and brand recognition will be on one side of the fence.
> > Historically, that balance of power will not sustain itself.
> >
> > Jim
> >
> >
> > ________________________________
> > From: Alan Abrahamson <alan.abrahamson at gmail.com>
> > To: Clark Zahn <clzahn at mindspring.com>
> > Cc: Northwestern Wildcats <nwu-sports at tssi.com>
> > Sent: Tuesday, September 20, 2011 4:02 PM
> > Subject: Re: [NU Sports] 64 out of 120
> >
> > As Keith Jackson might have said, "Whoa, Nellie."
> >
> > Maybe Jim will, in time, be proven right. But let's cross that
bridge
> when
> > we get there ...
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > On Tue, Sep 20, 2011 at 1:58 PM, Clark Zahn <clzahn at mindspring.com>
> wrote:
> >
> > > If that happens I don't think I want NU to be one of the 64, even
if we
> > > could compete.
> > >
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > >From: Jim Leonard <jleonard518 at yahoo.com>
> > > >Sent: Sep 20, 2011 1:34 PM
> > > >To: Northwestern Wildcats <nwu-sports at tssi.com>
> > > >Subject: [NU Sports] 64 out of 120
> > > >
> > > >My fear is that the 64 teams in the 4 conferences will eventually
> break
> > > from the NCAA. That will eventually mean players get paid and it
> probably
> > > means they can no longer play the other 56 schools. That would
mean NU
> > would
> > > have a very hard time competing. This is all a mistake.
> > > >
> > > >My friend sent me a report that Missouri has an offer from the
SEC.
> This
> > > could all be decided before Persa is back.
> > > >
> > > >Jim
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > _______________________________________________
> > > nwu-sports site list
> > > nwu-sports at tssi.com
> > > http://romaine.tssi.com/mailman/listinfo/nwu-sports
> > >
> > _______________________________________________
> > nwu-sports site list
> > nwu-sports at tssi.com
> > http://romaine.tssi.com/mailman/listinfo/nwu-sports
> > _______________________________________________
> > nwu-sports site list
> > nwu-sports at tssi.com
> > http://romaine.tssi.com/mailman/listinfo/nwu-sports
> >
> >
> _______________________________________________
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> nwu-sports at tssi.com
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>
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From rstetson at capps-assoc.com  Wed Sep 21 11:37:38 2011
From: rstetson at capps-assoc.com (rstetson at capps-assoc.com)
Date: Wed, 21 Sep 2011 12:37:38 -0400
Subject: [NU Sports] 64 out of 120
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The Chicago's Big Ten team has hit a nerve down in shampoobanana.

The illnoise guys keep talking about who really is Chi's team

Sent from my Verizon Wireless Phone

-----Original message-----
From: "Beamsley, Jeff" <Jeff.Beamsley at covisint.com>
To: Sportsbiz <sportsbiz at gmail.com>, Jonathan Hodges  
<j-hodges at alumni.northwestern.edu>
Cc: Northwestern Wildcats <nwu-sports at tssi.com>
Sent: Wed, Sep 21, 2011 14:25:37 GMT+00:00
Subject: Re: [NU Sports] 64 out of 120

Reading the NYT article that Stephen posted does bring this whole
discussion into more focus.

While NU is the team with the smallest fan base in the BT (515K), it is
also the BT team with the greatest opportunity to expand its fan base
because of its location in the Chicago Metro area.  This is exactly what
Phillips is up to with the games at Wrigley and the "Chicago's Big Ten
Team" tag line.  According to this article, the Chicago college football
market has 1.75M fans who root for somebody.  

Once you get out of the BT and the SEC, NU and their existing fan base
can really hold their own in any other conference.

In the PAC-12, for example, NU would rank right in the middle just after
A State and ahead of Colorado, Az, O state, Utah, Stanford, and W State.
While all of those teams play good football, the west coast doesn't
really care about college sports.

The article also makes it clear why the BT can afford to stand pat.  The
BT already has the top three fan bases in the country (OSU, UoM, and
PSU).  Texas and ND are the only other teams with big enough fan bases
to make a difference to the BT.  All of the other teams in the top ten
already have solid conference commitments.  So the BT has plenty of
leverage to require any new team to accept both the BTN and an equal
revenue split. 

In the case of ND, they have a national fan base that could suffer in
any regional conference deal from losing the national exposure that they
currently have.  For example, ND is second only to Rutgers in the NYC
market.  Texas by comparison doesn't even rank.  So ND is likely to
remain independent for as long as they can.

That leaves Texas in an odd position.  They are a regional power.  The
Pac12 would like to have access to the football-crazed Texas market to
sell their good football product, but neither the Pac12 or the BT are
going to cut Texas a special deal.  Oklahoma has also said that Texas
will have to restructure their TV network in order to keep the Big12
alive.

Not sure Texas wants to go it alone, so it will be interesting to see
what they do.

Bottom line, though, is that NU appears to be in good shape with a lot
of upside.

Jeff  





-----Original Message-----
From: nwu-sports-bounces at tssi.com [mailto:nwu-sports-bounces at tssi.com]
On Behalf Of Sportsbiz
Sent: Wednesday, September 21, 2011 12:34 AM
To: Jonathan Hodges
Cc: Northwestern Wildcats
Subject: Re: [NU Sports] 64 out of 120

So, now the Pac-12 has decided they like 12 after all and the Big
10/Pac-12
symmetry will be maintained.  Oklahoma has laid down a demand that Texas
"reform" the Longhorn Network and the Big 12 fire the current
commissioner
in which case they will stay.  Of course, now that the Pac-12 is
holding,
they don't really have much of an alternative.  The SEC officially
denies
the Missouri story but that may be only a delay until the Big 12 picture
clears and Missouri may want to wait to see what ultimately happens to
the
Big 12.  The Missouri chancellor happens to be chairing the Big 12
executive
committee currently placing him in an awkward position to say the least
-
just ask the president of Pitt.

Meanwhile, in NYC, the remaining members of the Big East have
recommitted to
the conference.  The only question is who exactly are the remaining
members.  UConn sent neither the AD nor the President to the meeting of
ADs,
just a low level staffer, reinforcing the feeling that it was headed to
the
ACC.  The identity of the Rutgers delegate isn't known.  TCU reportedly
wasn't invited but went anyway and Villanova was specifically not
invited
and was all bent out of joint.  The Big East will now start sifting
through
its list of expansion candidates, assuming the Big 12 stays together.
High
on the list are Houston, UCF, Navy, Air Force and East Carolina which
reportedly has already applied (in this case applied is not a pseudonym
for
accepted).

While the picture starts to clear, still more fun days lie ahead.

Mark
*Mark S. Ament*
sportsbiz at gmail.com
SportsBiz - The Business of Sports
Illuminated<http://thesportsbizblog.blogspot.com>
When it comes to sports, you know it's all about the money
Follow me on Twitter <http://www.twitter.com/msament>


*
*



On Tue, Sep 20, 2011 at 6:17 PM, Jonathan Hodges <
j-hodges at alumni.northwestern.edu> wrote:

> At this point I believe the conference realignment is mostly a TV
money
> grab
> and not a true split away from the NCAA.  I think we'll see the ACC &
SEC
> stop at 14 (mostly to expand their TV footprint) while the Big Ten
will
> likely stay on the sidelines at 12 (doesn't last year's move look good
in
> retrospect, and the process was much better than what's going on this
> round).  Oh, and I don't see the BCS being substantially changed
(maybe the
> Mountain West, with whatever schools end up there, gets a bid in place
of
> one of the failed conferences if the Big East/XII "leftovers" merge -
or,
> then again, the BCS could always lift the 2 schools/conference limit
and
> just add another at large bid, which would give them more flexibility
and
> the ability to make more money).  Also, I think ND will keep its NBC
> contract, BCS deal, and independence.
>
> Although the media loves to play up the paying player story, the
school
> presidents are strongly against it and aren't close to budging (even
if a
> handful of coaches give it some lip service - ultimately that would be
a
> bad
> move for them, though, as they reap the biggest rewards with their
huge
> contracts nowadays).  Also, there's all of those other sports that
have a
> home with the NCAA, and IF a group of schools were to break away from
the
> NCAA in football, things would be rather uncomfortable and if
basketball
> doesn't stay under the NCAA umbrella (with the tourney financing the
whole
> organization) then it could collapse.  Those breakaway schools don't
want
> to
> create a whole new organization for all of the other sports.
>
> Also, I don't see a push to a playoff right now.  Again, maybe
somewhere
> down the road, but right now the reorganization is not about creating
some
> kind of balanced mega conference bracket; it's about TV money and
> establishing large footprints.
>
> But then again I don't think anyone could have predicted any of this
> happening before the Big Ten announced it was looking around just over
a
> year and a half ago, so what do I know.  At this point, just be glad
that
> Northwestern has been in the same conference since its founding in
1896 and
> sit back and enjoy the ride given that the Big Ten is certainly one of
the
> top two most stable conferences in the nation and NU doesn't have to
worry
> about going anywhere.
>
> --
> Jonathan Hodges
> Contributor, HailToPurple
> Web: http://www.hailtopurple.com/jhodges/
> Twitter: @hailtopurple
> Email: j-hodges at alumni.northwestern.edu
>
>
>
> On Tue, Sep 20, 2011 at 5:37 PM, Jim Leonard <jleonard518 at yahoo.com>
> wrote:
>
> > I would really like to be wrong. I think this realignment is all a
huge
> > mistake and takes us one giant step closer to ruining college
athletics.
> > However, once the four 16-team conferences are in place, about 98%
of the
> > revenue and brand recognition will be on one side of the fence.
> > Historically, that balance of power will not sustain itself.
> >
> > Jim
> >
> >
> > ________________________________
> > From: Alan Abrahamson <alan.abrahamson at gmail.com>
> > To: Clark Zahn <clzahn at mindspring.com>
> > Cc: Northwestern Wildcats <nwu-sports at tssi.com>
> > Sent: Tuesday, September 20, 2011 4:02 PM
> > Subject: Re: [NU Sports] 64 out of 120
> >
> > As Keith Jackson might have said, "Whoa, Nellie."
> >
> > Maybe Jim will, in time, be proven right. But let's cross that
bridge
> when
> > we get there ...
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > On Tue, Sep 20, 2011 at 1:58 PM, Clark Zahn <clzahn at mindspring.com>
> wrote:
> >
> > > If that happens I don't think I want NU to be one of the 64, even
if we
> > > could compete.
> > >
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > >From: Jim Leonard <jleonard518 at yahoo.com>
> > > >Sent: Sep 20, 2011 1:34 PM
> > > >To: Northwestern Wildcats <nwu-sports at tssi.com>
> > > >Subject: [NU Sports] 64 out of 120
> > > >
> > > >My fear is that the 64 teams in the 4 conferences will eventually
> break
> > > from the NCAA. That will eventually mean players get paid and it
> probably
> > > means they can no longer play the other 56 schools. That would
mean NU
> > would
> > > have a very hard time competing. This is all a mistake.
> > > >
> > > >My friend sent me a report that Missouri has an offer from the
SEC.
> This
> > > could all be decided before Persa is back.
> > > >
> > > >Jim
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > _______________________________________________
> > > nwu-sports site list
> > > nwu-sports at tssi.com
> > > http://romaine.tssi.com/mailman/listinfo/nwu-sports
> > >
> > _______________________________________________
> > nwu-sports site list
> > nwu-sports at tssi.com
> > http://romaine.tssi.com/mailman/listinfo/nwu-sports
> > _______________________________________________
> > nwu-sports site list
> > nwu-sports at tssi.com
> > http://romaine.tssi.com/mailman/listinfo/nwu-sports
> >
> >
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> nwu-sports at tssi.com
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>
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From nolan at tssi.com  Wed Sep 21 11:52:16 2011
From: nolan at tssi.com (Mike Nolan)
Date: Wed, 21 Sep 2011 11:52:16 -0500 (CDT)
Subject: [NU Sports] 64 out of 120
In-Reply-To: <ef22293f-63e3-4f35-8555-a9e4368e39ca@blur>
Message-ID: <20110921165217.07BEA611EC@romaine.tssi.com>

> The Chicago's Big Ten team has hit a nerve down in shampoobanana.
> The illnoise guys keep talking about who really is Chi's team

It could turn out to be a marketing stroke of genius, but when you
start from nearly zero as far as marketing presence is concerned,
there's essentially nowhere to go but up, is there?

Winning, especially at home, is critical to building up a sustainable
fan base in the Chicago area.  

The Cubs were loveable losers for decades with almost nobody in the
stadium, and if they keep playing like the team has rickets instead
of being owned by the Ricketts, they could lose that 'campness'.  

I'm still a Cubs fan, but I doubt if I've watched 5 games all season
and I probably couldn't name 3 players in the starting lineup,
in part because I can never be sure which games will be on WGN
and they don't do the games on internet radio.  
--
Mike Nolan


From Jeff.Beamsley at covisint.com  Wed Sep 21 12:15:57 2011
From: Jeff.Beamsley at covisint.com (Beamsley, Jeff)
Date: Wed, 21 Sep 2011 13:15:57 -0400
Subject: [NU Sports] 64 out of 120
In-Reply-To: <20110921165217.07BEA611EC@romaine.tssi.com>
References: <ef22293f-63e3-4f35-8555-a9e4368e39ca@blur>
 <20110921165217.07BEA611EC@romaine.tssi.com>
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In any marketing exercise, if you can get your competitors engaged on
your terms you have an advantage. 

I'm sure Phillips would LOVE an Illinois challenge on who is the "real"
Chicago Big Ten Team.  It only further legitimizes the claim that
somebody should be it and the corollary that it shouldn't be any team
based outside the state.

It is also a subtle knock that ND shouldn't even BE in the conversation.

Jeff

-----Original Message-----
From: Mike Nolan [mailto:nolan at tssi.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, September 21, 2011 12:52 PM
To: rstetson at capps-assoc.com
Cc: Beamsley, Jeff; Sportsbiz; Jonathan Hodges; nwu-sports at tssi.com
Subject: Re: [NU Sports] 64 out of 120

> The Chicago's Big Ten team has hit a nerve down in shampoobanana.
> The illnoise guys keep talking about who really is Chi's team

It could turn out to be a marketing stroke of genius, but when you
start from nearly zero as far as marketing presence is concerned,
there's essentially nowhere to go but up, is there?

Winning, especially at home, is critical to building up a sustainable
fan base in the Chicago area.  

The Cubs were loveable losers for decades with almost nobody in the
stadium, and if they keep playing like the team has rickets instead
of being owned by the Ricketts, they could lose that 'campness'.  

I'm still a Cubs fan, but I doubt if I've watched 5 games all season
and I probably couldn't name 3 players in the starting lineup,
in part because I can never be sure which games will be on WGN
and they don't do the games on internet radio.  
--
Mike Nolan


From scottzel at gmail.com  Wed Sep 21 12:21:41 2011
From: scottzel at gmail.com (Scott Zeller, M.D.)
Date: Wed, 21 Sep 2011 10:21:41 -0700
Subject: [NU Sports] 64 out of 120
In-Reply-To: <ef22293f-63e3-4f35-8555-a9e4368e39ca@blur>
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The funny thing is, it is a legitimate claim geographically -- NU is the
only Big Ten team in Chicago, and half our campus being in Evanston is just
the next town over from Chicago (and reachable by Chicago public transit).
Champaign is three hours away, far too distant to even be considered remote
metropolitan area. U of I is Champaign's BT team.

Arguing who has more alumni in Chicago or who has more fans in Chicago is
meaningless if you look at it this way. Interestingly enough, I read
something somewhere that NU has the least alumni in Chicago of any BT school
except Penn State (I don't know if Neb had been included in that study).

On Wed, Sep 21, 2011 at 9:37 AM, rstetson at capps-assoc.com <
rstetson at capps-assoc.com> wrote:

> The Chicago's Big Ten team has hit a nerve down in shampoobanana.
>
> The illnoise guys keep talking about who really is Chi's team
>
> Sent from my Verizon Wireless Phone
>
>
> -----Original message-----
> From: "Beamsley, Jeff" <Jeff.Beamsley at covisint.com>
> To: Sportsbiz <sportsbiz at gmail.com>, Jonathan Hodges <
> j-hodges at alumni.northwestern.**edu <j-hodges at alumni.northwestern.edu>>
> Cc: Northwestern Wildcats <nwu-sports at tssi.com>
> Sent: Wed, Sep 21, 2011 14:25:37 GMT+00:00
> Subject: Re: [NU Sports] 64 out of 120
>
> Reading the NYT article that Stephen posted does bring this whole
> discussion into more focus.
>
> While NU is the team with the smallest fan base in the BT (515K), it is
> also the BT team with the greatest opportunity to expand its fan base
> because of its location in the Chicago Metro area.  This is exactly what
> Phillips is up to with the games at Wrigley and the "Chicago's Big Ten
> Team" tag line.  According to this article, the Chicago college football
> market has 1.75M fans who root for somebody.
> Once you get out of the BT and the SEC, NU and their existing fan base
> can really hold their own in any other conference.
>
> In the PAC-12, for example, NU would rank right in the middle just after
> A State and ahead of Colorado, Az, O state, Utah, Stanford, and W State.
> While all of those teams play good football, the west coast doesn't
> really care about college sports.
>
> The article also makes it clear why the BT can afford to stand pat.  The
> BT already has the top three fan bases in the country (OSU, UoM, and
> PSU).  Texas and ND are the only other teams with big enough fan bases
> to make a difference to the BT.  All of the other teams in the top ten
> already have solid conference commitments.  So the BT has plenty of
> leverage to require any new team to accept both the BTN and an equal
> revenue split.
> In the case of ND, they have a national fan base that could suffer in
> any regional conference deal from losing the national exposure that they
> currently have.  For example, ND is second only to Rutgers in the NYC
> market.  Texas by comparison doesn't even rank.  So ND is likely to
> remain independent for as long as they can.
>
> That leaves Texas in an odd position.  They are a regional power.  The
> Pac12 would like to have access to the football-crazed Texas market to
> sell their good football product, but neither the Pac12 or the BT are
> going to cut Texas a special deal.  Oklahoma has also said that Texas
> will have to restructure their TV network in order to keep the Big12
> alive.
>
> Not sure Texas wants to go it alone, so it will be interesting to see
> what they do.
>
> Bottom line, though, is that NU appears to be in good shape with a lot
> of upside.
>
> Jeff
>
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: nwu-sports-bounces at tssi.com [mailto:nwu-sports-bounces@**tssi.com<nwu-sports-bounces at tssi.com>
> ]
> On Behalf Of Sportsbiz
> Sent: Wednesday, September 21, 2011 12:34 AM
> To: Jonathan Hodges
> Cc: Northwestern Wildcats
> Subject: Re: [NU Sports] 64 out of 120
>
> So, now the Pac-12 has decided they like 12 after all and the Big
> 10/Pac-12
> symmetry will be maintained.  Oklahoma has laid down a demand that Texas
> "reform" the Longhorn Network and the Big 12 fire the current
> commissioner
> in which case they will stay.  Of course, now that the Pac-12 is
> holding,
> they don't really have much of an alternative.  The SEC officially
> denies
> the Missouri story but that may be only a delay until the Big 12 picture
> clears and Missouri may want to wait to see what ultimately happens to
> the
> Big 12.  The Missouri chancellor happens to be chairing the Big 12
> executive
> committee currently placing him in an awkward position to say the least
> -
> just ask the president of Pitt.
>
> Meanwhile, in NYC, the remaining members of the Big East have
> recommitted to
> the conference.  The only question is who exactly are the remaining
> members.  UConn sent neither the AD nor the President to the meeting of
> ADs,
> just a low level staffer, reinforcing the feeling that it was headed to
> the
> ACC.  The identity of the Rutgers delegate isn't known.  TCU reportedly
> wasn't invited but went anyway and Villanova was specifically not
> invited
> and was all bent out of joint.  The Big East will now start sifting
> through
> its list of expansion candidates, assuming the Big 12 stays together.
> High
> on the list are Houston, UCF, Navy, Air Force and East Carolina which
> reportedly has already applied (in this case applied is not a pseudonym
> for
> accepted).
>
> While the picture starts to clear, still more fun days lie ahead.
>
> Mark
> *Mark S. Ament*
> sportsbiz at gmail.com
> SportsBiz - The Business of Sports
> Illuminated<http://**thesportsbizblog.blogspot.com<http://thesportsbizblog.blogspot.com>
> >
> When it comes to sports, you know it's all about the money
> Follow me on Twitter <http://www.twitter.com/**msament<http://www.twitter.com/msament>
> >
>
>
> *
> *
>
>
>
> On Tue, Sep 20, 2011 at 6:17 PM, Jonathan Hodges <
> j-hodges at alumni.northwestern.**edu <j-hodges at alumni.northwestern.edu>>
> wrote:
>
>  At this point I believe the conference realignment is mostly a TV
>>
> money
>
>> grab
>> and not a true split away from the NCAA.  I think we'll see the ACC &
>>
> SEC
>
>> stop at 14 (mostly to expand their TV footprint) while the Big Ten
>>
> will
>
>> likely stay on the sidelines at 12 (doesn't last year's move look good
>>
> in
>
>> retrospect, and the process was much better than what's going on this
>> round).  Oh, and I don't see the BCS being substantially changed
>>
> (maybe the
>
>> Mountain West, with whatever schools end up there, gets a bid in place
>>
> of
>
>> one of the failed conferences if the Big East/XII "leftovers" merge -
>>
> or,
>
>> then again, the BCS could always lift the 2 schools/conference limit
>>
> and
>
>> just add another at large bid, which would give them more flexibility
>>
> and
>
>> the ability to make more money).  Also, I think ND will keep its NBC
>> contract, BCS deal, and independence.
>>
>> Although the media loves to play up the paying player story, the
>>
> school
>
>> presidents are strongly against it and aren't close to budging (even
>>
> if a
>
>> handful of coaches give it some lip service - ultimately that would be
>>
> a
>
>> bad
>> move for them, though, as they reap the biggest rewards with their
>>
> huge
>
>> contracts nowadays).  Also, there's all of those other sports that
>>
> have a
>
>> home with the NCAA, and IF a group of schools were to break away from
>>
> the
>
>> NCAA in football, things would be rather uncomfortable and if
>>
> basketball
>
>> doesn't stay under the NCAA umbrella (with the tourney financing the
>>
> whole
>
>> organization) then it could collapse.  Those breakaway schools don't
>>
> want
>
>> to
>> create a whole new organization for all of the other sports.
>>
>> Also, I don't see a push to a playoff right now.  Again, maybe
>>
> somewhere
>
>> down the road, but right now the reorganization is not about creating
>>
> some
>
>> kind of balanced mega conference bracket; it's about TV money and
>> establishing large footprints.
>>
>> But then again I don't think anyone could have predicted any of this
>> happening before the Big Ten announced it was looking around just over
>>
> a
>
>> year and a half ago, so what do I know.  At this point, just be glad
>>
> that
>
>> Northwestern has been in the same conference since its founding in
>>
> 1896 and
>
>> sit back and enjoy the ride given that the Big Ten is certainly one of
>>
> the
>
>> top two most stable conferences in the nation and NU doesn't have to
>>
> worry
>
>> about going anywhere.
>>
>> --
>> Jonathan Hodges
>> Contributor, HailToPurple
>> Web: http://www.hailtopurple.com/**jhodges/<http://www.hailtopurple.com/jhodges/>
>> Twitter: @hailtopurple
>> Email: j-hodges at alumni.northwestern.**edu<j-hodges at alumni.northwestern.edu>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Tue, Sep 20, 2011 at 5:37 PM, Jim Leonard <jleonard518 at yahoo.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>> > I would really like to be wrong. I think this realignment is all a
>>
> huge
>
>> > mistake and takes us one giant step closer to ruining college
>>
> athletics.
>
>> > However, once the four 16-team conferences are in place, about 98%
>>
> of the
>
>> > revenue and brand recognition will be on one side of the fence.
>> > Historically, that balance of power will not sustain itself.
>> >
>> > Jim
>> >
>> >
>> > ______________________________**__
>> > From: Alan Abrahamson <alan.abrahamson at gmail.com>
>> > To: Clark Zahn <clzahn at mindspring.com>
>> > Cc: Northwestern Wildcats <nwu-sports at tssi.com>
>> > Sent: Tuesday, September 20, 2011 4:02 PM
>> > Subject: Re: [NU Sports] 64 out of 120
>> >
>> > As Keith Jackson might have said, "Whoa, Nellie."
>> >
>> > Maybe Jim will, in time, be proven right. But let's cross that
>>
> bridge
>
>> when
>> > we get there ...
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > On Tue, Sep 20, 2011 at 1:58 PM, Clark Zahn <clzahn at mindspring.com>
>> wrote:
>> >
>> > > If that happens I don't think I want NU to be one of the 64, even
>>
> if we
>
>> > > could compete.
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > -----Original Message-----
>> > > >From: Jim Leonard <jleonard518 at yahoo.com>
>> > > >Sent: Sep 20, 2011 1:34 PM
>> > > >To: Northwestern Wildcats <nwu-sports at tssi.com>
>> > > >Subject: [NU Sports] 64 out of 120
>> > > >
>> > > >My fear is that the 64 teams in the 4 conferences will eventually
>> break
>> > > from the NCAA. That will eventually mean players get paid and it
>> probably
>> > > means they can no longer play the other 56 schools. That would
>>
> mean NU
>
>> > would
>> > > have a very hard time competing. This is all a mistake.
>> > > >
>> > > >My friend sent me a report that Missouri has an offer from the
>>
> SEC.
>
>> This
>> > > could all be decided before Persa is back.
>> > > >
>> > > >Jim
>> > > >
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > ______________________________**_________________
>> > > nwu-sports site list
>> > > nwu-sports at tssi.com
>> > > http://romaine.tssi.com/**mailman/listinfo/nwu-sports<http://romaine.tssi.com/mailman/listinfo/nwu-sports>
>> > >
>> > ______________________________**_________________
>> > nwu-sports site list
>> > nwu-sports at tssi.com
>> > http://romaine.tssi.com/**mailman/listinfo/nwu-sports<http://romaine.tssi.com/mailman/listinfo/nwu-sports>
>> > ______________________________**_________________
>> > nwu-sports site list
>> > nwu-sports at tssi.com
>> > http://romaine.tssi.com/**mailman/listinfo/nwu-sports<http://romaine.tssi.com/mailman/listinfo/nwu-sports>
>> >
>> >
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>>
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From rstetson at capps-assoc.com  Wed Sep 21 13:23:14 2011
From: rstetson at capps-assoc.com (rstetson at capps-assoc.com)
Date: Wed, 21 Sep 2011 14:23:14 -0400
Subject: [NU Sports] 64 out of 120
In-Reply-To: <FA7822545C26F244823CA5D312ABBDEA0809D170@nasa-dtw-ex006.nasa.cpwr.corp>
References: <ef22293f-63e3-4f35-8555-a9e4368e39ca@blur>
 <20110921165217.07BEA611EC@romaine.tssi.com>
 <FA7822545C26F244823CA5D312ABBDEA0809D170@nasa-dtw-ex006.nasa.cpwr.corp>
Message-ID: <c4f01077-fd5b-475c-818f-6b941e8fba0a@blur>

Great point


Sent from my Verizon Wireless Phone

-----Original message-----
From: "Beamsley, Jeff" <Jeff.Beamsley at covisint.com>
To: Mike Nolan <nolan at tssi.com>, rstetson at capps-assoc.com
Cc: Sportsbiz <sportsbiz at gmail.com>, Jonathan Hodges  
<j-hodges at alumni.northwestern.edu>, nwu-sports at tssi.com
Sent: Wed, Sep 21, 2011 17:15:57 GMT+00:00
Subject: RE: [NU Sports] 64 out of 120

In any marketing exercise, if you can get your competitors engaged on
your terms you have an advantage. 

I'm sure Phillips would LOVE an Illinois challenge on who is the "real"
Chicago Big Ten Team.  It only further legitimizes the claim that
somebody should be it and the corollary that it shouldn't be any team
based outside the state.

It is also a subtle knock that ND shouldn't even BE in the conversation.

Jeff

-----Original Message-----
From: Mike Nolan [mailto:nolan at tssi.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, September 21, 2011 12:52 PM
To: rstetson at capps-assoc.com
Cc: Beamsley, Jeff; Sportsbiz; Jonathan Hodges; nwu-sports at tssi.com
Subject: Re: [NU Sports] 64 out of 120

> The Chicago's Big Ten team has hit a nerve down in shampoobanana.
> The illnoise guys keep talking about who really is Chi's team

It could turn out to be a marketing stroke of genius, but when you
start from nearly zero as far as marketing presence is concerned,
there's essentially nowhere to go but up, is there?

Winning, especially at home, is critical to building up a sustainable
fan base in the Chicago area.  

The Cubs were loveable losers for decades with almost nobody in the
stadium, and if they keep playing like the team has rickets instead
of being owned by the Ricketts, they could lose that 'campness'.  

I'm still a Cubs fan, but I doubt if I've watched 5 games all season
and I probably couldn't name 3 players in the starting lineup,
in part because I can never be sure which games will be on WGN
and they don't do the games on internet radio.  
--
Mike Nolan



From sjtruog at yahoo.com  Thu Sep 22 01:40:54 2011
From: sjtruog at yahoo.com (SjT (Stephen J. Truog))
Date: Wed, 21 Sep 2011 23:40:54 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [NU Sports] PIGSKIN PICKS - Week 4
Message-ID: <1316673654.38293.YahooMailNeo@web121713.mail.ne1.yahoo.com>

Well, it's been a heck of a last week or so ... and since I won't be sequestered for jury duty, you'll likely have to wait for fall break for the standings. But on to the week 4 lineup!

It's a dreadfully dull week in Big Ten Country as we've reached that point in the year where the interesting NC games have passed, creampuffs are in season and the fans are screaming for the league slate to just get started already. There are a few big national games, but not like the early part of the year. Mostly, it looks like another Saturday of TV announcers blathering on about the might of the SEC. In any case,?picks are due by kickoff SATURDAY!


NU PIGSKIN PICKS - WEEK 4

############################
Name:?

BIG TEN
=======
GAME 1: Western Michigan @ Illinois
WINNER:?

GAME 2: Indiana @ North Texas
WINNER:?

GAME 3: Louisiana Monroe @ Iowa
WINNER:?

GAME 4: San Diego State @ Michigan
WINNER:?

GAME 5: Central Michigan @ Michigan State
WINNER:?

GAME 6: North Dakota State @ Minnesota
WINNER:?

GAME 7: Nebraska @ Wyoming
WINNER:?

GAME 8: Colorado @ Ohio State
WINNER:?

GAME 9: Eastern Michigan @ Penn State
WINNER:?

GAME 10: South Dakota @ Wisconsin
WINNER:?
NATIONAL========GAME 11: Arkansas @ AlabamaWINNER:?

GAME 12: Oklahoma State @ Texas A&M
WINNER:?

GAME 13: Florida State @ Clemson
WINNER:?
GAME 14: LSU @ West VirginiaWINNER:?

GAME 15: Southern Cal @ Arizona State
WINNER:?

MY PICKS
========
GAME 1: ILLINOIS ... After their big win, Ill-ini roll
GAME 2: INDIANA ... Tempted for the upset, but IU can't slip up again, can they?
GAME 3: IOWA ... Will Hawkeyes keep the O more open after last week's comeback?
GAME 4: MICHIGAN ... Hoke should know the Aztecs well
GAME 5: MICHIGAN STATE ... After last week's embarrassment, Sparty should be mad
GAME 6: MINNESOTA ... Gophers win another for coach
GAME 7: NEBRASKA ... This week's UW isn't as good as last week's or next week's for UNL
GAME 8: OHIO STATE ... This would have been a huge game in the 90s!
GAME 9: PENN STATE ... No last-minute Templeish escape needed here
GAME 10: WISCONSIN ... The Smug Smirk might hang 100 on SD State
GAME 11: ALABAMA ... One of these teams is legit, one is a pretender
GAME 12: TEXAS A&M ... Both of these teams are overrated, but ATM is at home
GAME 13: CLEMSON ... It's the ACC, so flip a coin?
GAME 14: LSU ... Tigers will roll over Mountaineers and their gimmicky offenseGAME 15: ARIZONA STATE ... Sun Devils bounce back and SC's lucky win streak ends
Picks due by Saturday kickoff!GO CATS!!!
-SjT

?
* * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *
STEPHEN J. TRUOG
sjtruog at yahoo.com
GO CATS!!! GEAUX SAINTS!!!
Super Bowl XLIV Champions!

From neonrye at aol.com  Thu Sep 22 13:12:17 2011
From: neonrye at aol.com (neonrye at aol.com)
Date: Thu, 22 Sep 2011 14:12:17 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: [NU Sports] It's Persa (Stong) Time--At Last
Message-ID: <8CE476A4BE7E086-BC8-AB8D2@webmail-d140.sysops.aol.com>


Danny will be playing against the Illini:  http://www.chicagotribune.com/sports/college/chi-persa-im-ready-to-go-20110922,0,3831014.story

Now the real season begins.....

Paul Levinson




From nolan at tssi.com  Thu Sep 22 23:05:32 2011
From: nolan at tssi.com (Mike Nolan)
Date: Thu, 22 Sep 2011 23:05:32 -0500 (CDT)
Subject: [NU Sports] Vick cleared to play
Message-ID: <20110923040532.90C0061769@romaine.tssi.com>

According to ESPN, Michael Vick has been cleared to play against the
Giants, but it still isn't clear whether Vince Young or Mike Kafka will
be the backup should he go down again.
--
Mike Nolan


From Willie.Weinbaum at espn.com  Fri Sep 23 07:15:26 2011
From: Willie.Weinbaum at espn.com (Weinbaum, Willie)
Date: Fri, 23 Sep 2011 08:15:26 -0400
Subject: [NU Sports] Jason Wright - helluva story
Message-ID: <1F89BB2CE7A5B94D969618E8CC769CC374DE6703@XCHGBRS4.corp.espn.pvt>

http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/news;_ylt=AhnFmLRuJbGJwPD8xKXvugRDubYF?slug=ycn-9159265


From mzilka at sbcglobal.net  Fri Sep 23 09:32:28 2011
From: mzilka at sbcglobal.net (Marilyn)
Date: Fri, 23 Sep 2011 09:32:28 -0500
Subject: [NU Sports] Willie the Wildcat Cookbook signing
Message-ID: <1266946A-372A-4CAC-9BBC-32199DA70742@sbcglobal.net>

For those of you in the Chicago area, Willie the Wildcat and former NU player Erryn Cobb will be autographing Willie's Wildcat Cookbook tomorrow Sept 24

The Book Stall
811 Elm
Winnetka
11am to noon

For those not in the area, you can order through nusports.com

It's receiving rave reviews and all proceeds go to the Wildcat Fund

They make great gifts!

From winklerbrianh at gmail.com  Fri Sep 23 14:20:50 2011
From: winklerbrianh at gmail.com (Brian Winkler)
Date: Fri, 23 Sep 2011 14:20:50 -0500
Subject: [NU Sports] Tickets for Michigan Game
Message-ID: <CABEQ_qb6yvQHLWtZZqV4LyXDRUwTYDznDYW5DBwnh+f5Gqy+2g@mail.gmail.com>

Unfortunately, I cannot make the Michigan game in 2 weeks.  I have two
tickets in Section 128, row 51.  If you are interested in them, please
contact me via email off the list.

Thanks.  Brian

From hakirsch at aol.com  Sat Sep 24 14:39:49 2011
From: hakirsch at aol.com (hakirsch at aol.com)
Date: Sat, 24 Sep 2011 19:39:49 +0000
Subject: [NU Sports] Musings
Message-ID: <1149555249-1316893211-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-799440533-@b4.c7.bise6.blackberry>

Ball State up 31-0 over Army at the half.  

Ouch

Harry
Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry


From sjtruog at yahoo.com  Sat Sep 24 14:40:12 2011
From: sjtruog at yahoo.com (SjT (Stephen J. Truog))
Date: Sat, 24 Sep 2011 12:40:12 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [NU Sports] SEC leaving Aggies at the altar?
Message-ID: <1316893212.54385.YahooMailNeo@web121710.mail.ne1.yahoo.com>

I couldn't stand watching Pitt's inevitable choke or stomach any more praise from the announcers on how patient Brian Kelley was being "in Brian Kelley terms" today (plus, Urban Meyer is even more nauseating as a commentator than coach - yeesh, who'd think someone could make Joe Buck/Troy Aikman look lively!) ...

So I switched over to the CBS pregame show and the CBS studio crew (who could give the Big Ten folks and even NBC's Notre Dame crew a lesson on how to read conference talking points and support the home team) seemed to be running away as quickly as possible from the ATM/SEC merger, blathering on about how the Aggies could "save face" now that Texas is giving up some of their money and how the wonderful rivalries of ?Texas could be preserved (and lamenting how no one is there to step in and take control over the college football monster the SEC/CBS are largely responsible for creating ...).

Coming from the CBS folks, this seems like a clear push by the SEC to tell the Aggies that they had a fun little fling, but they need to go on home because marriage is not in their future. Hmmmmm ...

GO CATS!!!
-SjT

PS - Here's hoping someone listens to these laments and DOES get a commish in charge of college football -- one who tears apart the B(C)S and makes them actually decide a champion on the field! :) Be careful what you ask for, SEC/CBS folk ...
?
* * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *
STEPHEN J. TRUOG
sjtruog at yahoo.com
GO CATS!!! GEAUX SAINTS!!!
Super Bowl XLIV Champions!
________________________________

From nolan at tssi.com  Sat Sep 24 19:02:57 2011
From: nolan at tssi.com (Mike Nolan)
Date: Sat, 24 Sep 2011 19:02:57 -0500 (CDT)
Subject: [NU Sports] Musings
In-Reply-To: <1149555249-1316893211-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-799440533-@b4.c7.bise6.blackberry>
Message-ID: <20110925000257.BD9B6647ED@romaine.tssi.com>

> Ball State up 31-0 over Army at the half.  

Their starting QB was 24/30 for 324 yards, they also rushed the ball
42 times.  

Army racked up 402 yards on the ground.   

Time of possession was nearly even.  

By comparison, our QBs were 17/30 against Army and we rushed the ball
27 times, and Army had better than a 2-1 advantage in possession time.

Woulda, coulda, shoulda.  

Illinois wasn't exactly brilliant against Western Michigan today, 
that may rile them up for next week.  I hope Persa is really ready.
--
Mike Nolan


From cherron604 at aol.com  Sat Sep 24 14:48:35 2011
From: cherron604 at aol.com (Charles Herron)
Date: Sat, 24 Sep 2011 15:48:35 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: [NU Sports] Army this week
Message-ID: <8CE490A14D1BF4C-2824-5F944@webmail-d173.sysops.aol.com>

At the half, in Muncie, Indiana


Ball State 31
Army         0


Chuck Herron, Tech '85




From eschoeman at sbcglobal.net  Sat Sep 24 19:12:51 2011
From: eschoeman at sbcglobal.net (Evans Schoeman)
Date: Sat, 24 Sep 2011 17:12:51 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [NU Sports] Musings
In-Reply-To: <20110925000257.BD9B6647ED@romaine.tssi.com>
References: <20110925000257.BD9B6647ED@romaine.tssi.com>
Message-ID: <1316909571.21022.YahooMailRC@web83909.mail.sp1.yahoo.com>

And, true to form, Army had 0 (ZERO) passing yards.

So, through 4 games, Army has completed a total of 10 passes for 155 yards.


________________________________
From: Mike Nolan <nolan at tssi.com>
To: hakirsch at aol.com
Cc: nwu-sports at tssi.com
Sent: Sat, September 24, 2011 7:02:57 PM
Subject: Re: [NU Sports] Musings

> Ball State up 31-0 over Army at the half.? 

Their starting QB was 24/30 for 324 yards, they also rushed the ball
42 times.? 

Army racked up 402 yards on the ground.? 

Time of possession was nearly even.? 

By comparison, our QBs were 17/30 against Army and we rushed the ball
27 times, and Army had better than a 2-1 advantage in possession time.

Woulda, coulda, shoulda.? 

Illinois wasn't exactly brilliant against Western Michigan today, 
that may rile them up for next week.? I hope Persa is really ready.
--
Mike Nolan

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From sportsbiz at gmail.com  Sun Sep 25 10:41:42 2011
From: sportsbiz at gmail.com (Sportsbiz)
Date: Sun, 25 Sep 2011 11:41:42 -0400
Subject: [NU Sports] Musings
In-Reply-To: <1316909571.21022.YahooMailRC@web83909.mail.sp1.yahoo.com>
References: <20110925000257.BD9B6647ED@romaine.tssi.com>
 <1316909571.21022.YahooMailRC@web83909.mail.sp1.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <CAPCH0EMFJGqNPVvfwrAmEEiUqxJrghpNfz6=wAxn8wsOiWht4A@mail.gmail.com>

Western Michigan threw for over 300 yards but managed to rush only 35 yards,
yes 35 yards for the entire game.  Yet, Illinois was life and death to win.
I have renewed optimism about next week.  There is no way our offense will
be that one-sided and if Illinois gets down early, the Cats should be able
to keep them there.
Mark

*Mark S. Ament*
sportsbiz at gmail.com
SportsBiz - The Business of Sports
Illuminated<http://thesportsbizblog.blogspot.com>
When it comes to sports, you know it's all about the money
Follow me on Twitter <http://www.twitter.com/msament>


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*



On Sat, Sep 24, 2011 at 8:12 PM, Evans Schoeman <eschoeman at sbcglobal.net>wrote:

> And, true to form, Army had 0 (ZERO) passing yards.
>
> So, through 4 games, Army has completed a total of 10 passes for 155 yards.
>
>
> ________________________________
> From: Mike Nolan <nolan at tssi.com>
> To: hakirsch at aol.com
> Cc: nwu-sports at tssi.com
> Sent: Sat, September 24, 2011 7:02:57 PM
> Subject: Re: [NU Sports] Musings
>
> > Ball State up 31-0 over Army at the half.
>
> Their starting QB was 24/30 for 324 yards, they also rushed the ball
> 42 times.
>
> Army racked up 402 yards on the ground.
>
> Time of possession was nearly even.
>
> By comparison, our QBs were 17/30 against Army and we rushed the ball
> 27 times, and Army had better than a 2-1 advantage in possession time.
>
> Woulda, coulda, shoulda.
>
> Illinois wasn't exactly brilliant against Western Michigan today,
> that may rile them up for next week.  I hope Persa is really ready.
> --
> Mike Nolan
>
> _______________________________________________
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> nwu-sports at tssi.com
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From eschoeman at sbcglobal.net  Sun Sep 25 10:56:37 2011
From: eschoeman at sbcglobal.net (Evans Schoeman)
Date: Sun, 25 Sep 2011 08:56:37 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [NU Sports] Musings
In-Reply-To: <CAPCH0EMFJGqNPVvfwrAmEEiUqxJrghpNfz6=wAxn8wsOiWht4A@mail.gmail.com>
References: <20110925000257.BD9B6647ED@romaine.tssi.com>
 <1316909571.21022.YahooMailRC@web83909.mail.sp1.yahoo.com>
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Message-ID: <1316966197.79432.YahooMailRC@web83907.mail.sp1.yahoo.com>

Not looking too far ahead, but I feel the same way about Michigan.? ESPN talked 
about how great Michigan's defense was in shutting down SD State's vaunted 
offense, but SD self-destructed with numerous turnovers deep in Michigan 
territory.? I believe that SD was in Michigan territory 11 times and only got 
one score out of it.

Robinson is an incredible athlete, and he will get his 150 plus rushing yards, 
but he is a very ordinary passer.? I think that Michigan is a winnable game if 
the Cats play well.

Unfortunately, Michigan gets Minnesota at home next week, so they are likely to 
come into Evanston 5-0 and ranked in the Top 15.

Hopefully, the Cats will step up in the next two weeks (and the two weeks after 
that).





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From: Sportsbiz <sportsbiz at gmail.com>
To: Evans Schoeman <eschoeman at sbcglobal.net>
Cc: Mike Nolan <nolan at tssi.com>; hakirsch at aol.com; nwu-sports at tssi.com
Sent: Sun, September 25, 2011 10:41:42 AM
Subject: Re: [NU Sports] Musings

Western Michigan threw for over 300 yards but managed to rush only 35 yards, yes 
35 yards for the entire game.? Yet, Illinois was life and death to win.? I have 
renewed optimism about next week.? There is no way our offense will be that 
one-sided and if Illinois gets down early, the Cats should be able to keep them 
there.
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On Sat, Sep 24, 2011 at 8:12 PM, Evans Schoeman <eschoeman at sbcglobal.net> wrote:

And, true to form, Army had 0 (ZERO) passing yards.
>
>So, through 4 games, Army has completed a total of 10 passes for 155 yards.
>
>
>________________________________
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>To: hakirsch at aol.com
>Cc: nwu-sports at tssi.com
>Sent: Sat, September 24, 2011 7:02:57 PM
>Subject: Re: [NU Sports] Musings
>
>
>> Ball State up 31-0 over Army at the half.?
>
>Their starting QB was 24/30 for 324 yards, they also rushed the ball
>42 times.?
>
>Army racked up 402 yards on the ground.?
>
>Time of possession was nearly even.?
>
>By comparison, our QBs were 17/30 against Army and we rushed the ball
>27 times, and Army had better than a 2-1 advantage in possession time.
>
>Woulda, coulda, shoulda.?
>
>Illinois wasn't exactly brilliant against Western Michigan today,
>that may rile them up for next week.? I hope Persa is really ready.
>--
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From bwdolphin146 at yahoo.com  Sun Sep 25 12:41:30 2011
From: bwdolphin146 at yahoo.com (Brad Wilson)
Date: Sun, 25 Sep 2011 10:41:30 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [NU Sports] really?
Message-ID: <1316972490.86844.YahooMailNeo@web114716.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>

NU just loses to Army, who gets crushed by a MAC team this week, and suddenly people are optimistic about beating Illinois and Michigan?

Persa has not played one down yet -- we have no idea what he will be like -- and a rushing defense that was trampled by Army now has to face Big Ten talent that ran for 296 yards this week and we're optimistic?

Yikes. No one wants the Cats to crush the Illini more than I do -- well, Tony and Mr. Bailey maybe -- and I think they can win. But I am going to be very quiet this week. 


Go 'Cats!!

bw

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From nolan at tssi.com  Sun Sep 25 14:44:57 2011
From: nolan at tssi.com (Mike Nolan)
Date: Sun, 25 Sep 2011 14:44:57 -0500 (CDT)
Subject: [NU Sports] Vick out, Kafka in
Message-ID: <20110925194457.54E8564946@romaine.tssi.com>

According to a report on Fox, Michael Vick is out of the game, apparently 
with a hand inury, and Mike Kafka is in.
--
Mike Nolan


From nolan at tssi.com  Sun Sep 25 14:49:06 2011
From: nolan at tssi.com (Mike Nolan)
Date: Sun, 25 Sep 2011 14:49:06 -0500 (CDT)
Subject: [NU Sports] Vick out, Kafka in
In-Reply-To: <20110925194457.54E8564946@romaine.tssi.com>
Message-ID: <20110925194906.AE4A5615FE@romaine.tssi.com>

And according to ESPN gamecast, he threw a deep pass that was picked
off on his first play.  
--
Mike Nolan


From jintsjason at me.com  Sun Sep 25 15:00:40 2011
From: jintsjason at me.com (Jason Singer)
Date: Sun, 25 Sep 2011 13:00:40 -0700
Subject: [NU Sports] Vick out, Kafka in
In-Reply-To: <20110925194906.AE4A5615FE@romaine.tssi.com>
References: <20110925194906.AE4A5615FE@romaine.tssi.com>
Message-ID: <4233C95B-B857-4165-A50E-E4305085C63F@me.com>

Two picks. 

Jason Singer
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Please forgive brevity. Sent from my iPhone

On Sep 25, 2011, at 12:49 PM, nolan at tssi.com (Mike Nolan) wrote:

> And according to ESPN gamecast, he threw a deep pass that was picked
> off on his first play.  
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From rstetson at capps-assoc.com  Sun Sep 25 15:12:03 2011
From: rstetson at capps-assoc.com (rstetson at capps-assoc.com)
Date: Sun, 25 Sep 2011 16:12:03 -0400
Subject: [NU Sports] Vick out, Kafka in
In-Reply-To: <4233C95B-B857-4165-A50E-E4305085C63F@me.com>
References: <20110925194906.AE4A5615FE@romaine.tssi.com>
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Message-ID: <53becad0-5924-4788-b9f0-262d3cb0282a@blur>

Not a good start. He had iggles driving


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Cc: "nwu-sports at tssi.com" <nwu-sports at tssi.com>
Sent: Sun, Sep 25, 2011 20:00:40 GMT+00:00
Subject: Re: [NU Sports] Vick out, Kafka in

Two picks. 

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Please forgive brevity. Sent from my iPhone

On Sep 25, 2011, at 12:49 PM, nolan at tssi.com (Mike Nolan) wrote:

> And according to ESPN gamecast, he threw a deep pass that was picked
> off on his first play.  
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From nolan at tssi.com  Sun Sep 25 16:54:15 2011
From: nolan at tssi.com (Mike Nolan)
Date: Sun, 25 Sep 2011 16:54:15 -0500 (CDT)
Subject: [NU Sports] Vick out, Kafka in
In-Reply-To: <53becad0-5924-4788-b9f0-262d3cb0282a@blur>
Message-ID: <20110925215415.CB9FA64951@romaine.tssi.com>

The report on Vick is that he has a broken right hand.

Now what will the Eagles do?   
--
Mike Nolan


From jintsjason at me.com  Sun Sep 25 18:00:18 2011
From: jintsjason at me.com (Jason Singer)
Date: Sun, 25 Sep 2011 16:00:18 -0700
Subject: [NU Sports] Vick out, Kafka in
In-Reply-To: <20110925215415.CB9FA64951@romaine.tssi.com>
References: <20110925215415.CB9FA64951@romaine.tssi.com>
Message-ID: <ED0DECC0-2775-44D4-8511-30D7EC356187@me.com>

Start Vick. They'll get their money's worth out of him, even if it kills him. And with that O-Line, it might.

But if you saw his postgame quotes, you'll see it was all the refs fault. Even though he was hit 11 times and Eli 7 (with twice the time of possession).In other words...shut up. You lost. Deal.

Jason Singer
jintsjason at me.com
www.jasonsinger.com
Please forgive brevity. Sent from my iPhone

On Sep 25, 2011, at 2:54 PM, nolan at tssi.com (Mike Nolan) wrote:

> The report on Vick is that he has a broken right hand.
> 
> Now what will the Eagles do?   
> --
> Mike Nolan


From rstetson at capps-assoc.com  Sun Sep 25 22:15:05 2011
From: rstetson at capps-assoc.com (Roy S. Lamberton)
Date: Sun, 25 Sep 2011 23:15:05 -0400
Subject: [NU Sports] Vick out, Kafka in
In-Reply-To: <ED0DECC0-2775-44D4-8511-30D7EC356187@me.com>
References: <20110925215415.CB9FA64951@romaine.tssi.com>
 <ED0DECC0-2775-44D4-8511-30D7EC356187@me.com>
Message-ID: <003401cc7bfa$7e0885f0$7a1991d0$@com>

The quotes I heard blamed his problems on his "being on the ground all the time."

Mike, ask your fellow QB Mike - this is football, right?

rsl

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-----Original Message-----
From: Jason Singer [mailto:jintsjason at me.com] 
Sent: Sunday, September 25, 2011 7:00 PM
To: Mike Nolan
Cc: rstetson at capps-assoc.com; nolan at tssi.com; nwu-sports at tssi.com
Subject: Re: [NU Sports] Vick out, Kafka in

Start Vick. They'll get their money's worth out of him, even if it kills him. And with
that O-Line, it might.

But if you saw his postgame quotes, you'll see it was all the refs fault. Even though he
was hit 11 times and Eli 7 (with twice the time of possession).In other words...shut up.
You lost. Deal.

Jason Singer
jintsjason at me.com
www.jasonsinger.com
Please forgive brevity. Sent from my iPhone

On Sep 25, 2011, at 2:54 PM, nolan at tssi.com (Mike Nolan) wrote:

> The report on Vick is that he has a broken right hand.
> 
> Now what will the Eagles do?   
> --
> Mike Nolan


From nolan at tssi.com  Sun Sep 25 22:27:05 2011
From: nolan at tssi.com (Mike Nolan)
Date: Sun, 25 Sep 2011 22:27:05 -0500 (CDT)
Subject: [NU Sports] Vick out, Kafka in
In-Reply-To: <003401cc7bfa$7e0885f0$7a1991d0$@com>
Message-ID: <20110926032705.C46B7601C8@romaine.tssi.com>

> The quotes I heard blamed his problems on his "being on the ground all =
> the time."
> 
> Mike, ask your fellow QB Mike - this is football, right?

Who was saying this?

I think Mike K spent some time on the ground in college.  

The NBC crew have been saying that the Eagles have salaray cap problems.

Looks like they'll have to make do with Young and Kafka for now.  
--
Mike Nolan


From sjtruog at yahoo.com  Tue Sep 27 02:08:14 2011
From: sjtruog at yahoo.com (SjT (Stephen J. Truog))
Date: Tue, 27 Sep 2011 00:08:14 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [NU Sports] PIGSKIN PICKS - Week 5
Message-ID: <1317107294.27965.YahooMailNeo@web121704.mail.ne1.yahoo.com>

Two more weeks until fall break and the possibility of standings, but who cares? As my old friend Jim would say, I've got that "Big Ten tingly feeling" ... it's CONFERENCE PLAY WEEKEND! Finally, the creampuffs are done and it's time to kick off the new Big Ten, where megamatchups happen weekly and even two or three times per week! Maybe with ESPN in Madison they will finally give the conference some love instead of the overrated Big XII and the woefully underrated Badgers/Huskers winner can crack the top 5???

And closer to home, it's rivaly Saturday already??? The Cats and Illini face off thanks to stupid Jim Delaney's moronic idea to separate the divisions into unspeakable names and keep the Ill-ini and Wildcats from playing the final Saturday of the weekend in what could be a natural rivalry trophy Saturday of east (UM/OSU, MSU/PSU, Ind/Pur) and west (Min/Wis, UNL/Iowa and ILL/NU) traditional showdowns. Seriously? The way it turned out is so dumb it could be a B(C)S idea.

So we get to see the best (adding UNL) and worst (over-tinkered divisions with ludicrous names that make longtime rivals play the first weekend of league play instead of the last) of Jim Delaney's year on display this weekend ... at least Persa should be back for the Cats!

Picks are due by kickoff Saturday - GO CATS!!! BEAT THE ILLINI!!!

NU PIGSKIN PICKS - WEEK 5

############################
Name:?

BIG TEN
=======
GAME 1: Penn State @ Indiana
WINNER:?

GAME 2: Minnesota @ MichiganWINNER:?

GAME 3: Michigan State @ Ohio StateWINNER:?

GAME 4: Nebraska @ WisconsinWINNER:?

GAME 5: Notre Dame @ Purdue
WINNER:?
NATIONAL========GAME 6: Alabama @ Florida
WINNER:?

GAME 7: Auburn @ South CarolinaWINNER:?

GAME 8: Clemson @ Virginia Tech
WINNER:?
GAME 9: Arkansas vs. Texas A&M (@ Dallas, TX)
WINNER:?

GAME 10: Texas @ Iowa State
WINNER:?

MY PICKS
========
GAME 1: PENN STATE ... Hoosiers' road to 0-8 begins here!
GAME 2: MICHIGAN ... An easy game for that ole' brown jug
GAME 3: OHIO STATE ... Not sold on MSU yet and Bucks are at home, and the unis still intimidate some Big Ten schools
GAME 4: WISCONSIN ... Badgers at home under lights and are just tougher than UNL - The Smug Smirk beats the Hothead to win round 1, rematch in Indy?
GAME 5: NOTRE DAME ... The dominoes are falling, Irish - time to get on board with the Big Ten - at least you'd finish in middle of league ahead of Boilers!
GAME 6: ALABAMA ... If it were LSU in the Swamp, I'd smell upset - but Tide is a veteran group
GAME 7: SOUTH CAROLINA ... No defense in the SEC this year, so look for a 49-45 game or something like that - Gamecocks win at home
GAME 8: VIRGINIA TECH ... If Tigers can win in Blacksburg, I might finally believe they're legit this year
GAME 9: ARKANSAS ... Future SEC matchup and both teams exposed as pretenders last year, but Arkansas bounces back in Jerryworld Bowl
GAME 10: TEXAS ... ESPN says this is on the "ACC Network" ... is that what the laughable "Longhorn Network" has become? Horns survive trap before OU.

And off the board ...

NORTHWESTERN 33, Illinois 28 - Good game of two clashing styles ... Cats D will have trouble stopping the Illini run, but Persa comes back (finally!) and leads the O to the victory by carving up the Illini defense. We owe them one for last year!
Picks due by Saturday kickoff!GO CATS!!!
-SjT
?
* * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *
STEPHEN J. TRUOG
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From jleonard518 at yahoo.com  Wed Sep 28 10:58:57 2011
From: jleonard518 at yahoo.com (Jim Leonard)
Date: Wed, 28 Sep 2011 08:58:57 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [NU Sports] What's the mood this week?
Message-ID: <1317225537.26678.YahooMailNeo@web36808.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

I'm curious to know how everyone else feels about the upcoming game. I'm both nervous and optimistic. I think Persa's return could be the spark that we need to get the offense clicking. Illinois is 4-0, but I think it's a winnable game. Coming off the bye week I want to see a lot more energy from the team.?

Go Cats!
Jim

From neonrye at aol.com  Wed Sep 28 11:46:53 2011
From: neonrye at aol.com (neonrye at aol.com)
Date: Wed, 28 Sep 2011 12:46:53 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: [NU Sports] What's the mood this week?
In-Reply-To: <1317225537.26678.YahooMailNeo@web36808.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
References: <1317225537.26678.YahooMailNeo@web36808.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <8CE4C155C226015-2340-BFA71@webmail-d084.sysops.aol.com>


I, too, am nervous--don't know about optimistic, as there as so many variables here.  Will Persa and his receivers (especially Ebert) have the timing necessary to connect regularly, so we maintain possession and kept the defense off the field for long stretches?  The key to the game will be in the trenches--where we had all kinds of problems against Army.  

Our "O" Line has to step up big-time on Saturday, so that (a) Persa has sufficient time to pick out secondary receivers and to find his rhythm and get his "sea legs" under him, especially early in the game and (b) so our running backs can get consistent yardage.  Does anyone know if Adonis is back for this game?  His speed and agility were sorely missed at West Point.  

Second, our "D" Line needs to make sure that the Illini don't run and run and run all day, like the Wrigley game.  If we slow down their running attack, we will win.

Third, our "D" Backs need to prevent "big plays" that will get the home crowd into the game.  It seems to me (at least watching on the tube) that the Illinois crowds will sometimes turn on their team quickly, if they don't get off to a good start, and they are not the most vocal fans in the conference in any event. 

I intend on watching the game at Buffalo Wild Wings in Stamford, CT with a loyal cohort of 'Cat fans, some of whom were at the Army game.  Hopefully, we will have many "Purple Shots" and will be singing "Go U Northwestern" after a plethora of scores.

Go 'Cats!  Persa Strong!

Paul Levinson 








-----Original Message-----
From: Jim Leonard <jleonard518 at yahoo.com>
To: Northwestern Wildcats <nwu-sports at tssi.com>
Sent: Wed, Sep 28, 2011 12:00 pm
Subject: [NU Sports] What's the mood this week?


I'm curious to know how everyone else feels about the upcoming game. I'm both 
ervous and optimistic. I think Persa's return could be the spark that we need 
o get the offense clicking. Illinois is 4-0, but I think it's a winnable game. 
oming off the bye week I want to see a lot more energy from the team. 
Go Cats!
im
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From Jeff.Beamsley at covisint.com  Wed Sep 28 12:12:06 2011
From: Jeff.Beamsley at covisint.com (Beamsley, Jeff)
Date: Wed, 28 Sep 2011 13:12:06 -0400
Subject: [NU Sports] What's the mood this week?
In-Reply-To: <8CE4C155C226015-2340-BFA71@webmail-d084.sysops.aol.com>
References: <1317225537.26678.YahooMailNeo@web36808.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
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Message-ID: <FA7822545C26F244823CA5D312ABBDEA0818AA45@nasa-dtw-ex006.nasa.cpwr.corp>

I'm going to have to depend on the rest of you guys this weekend.  I
will be at a church function all day Saturday and won't have access to
the internet.  The good news is that I will be able to add some
spiritual support to the effort.

That said, this is the beginning of our Persa season.  

If he goes well, we will do well.

If he struggles, we will struggle.

I think that Illinois can be beat, and the old Persa could have done it.

We'll find out whether how the new Persa compares to the old on
Saturday.

Jeff



-----Original Message-----
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On Behalf Of neonrye at aol.com
Sent: Wednesday, September 28, 2011 12:47 PM
To: jleonard518 at yahoo.com; nwu-sports at tssi.com
Subject: Re: [NU Sports] What's the mood this week?


I, too, am nervous--don't know about optimistic, as there as so many
variables here.  Will Persa and his receivers (especially Ebert) have
the timing necessary to connect regularly, so we maintain possession and
kept the defense off the field for long stretches?  The key to the game
will be in the trenches--where we had all kinds of problems against
Army.  

Our "O" Line has to step up big-time on Saturday, so that (a) Persa has
sufficient time to pick out secondary receivers and to find his rhythm
and get his "sea legs" under him, especially early in the game and (b)
so our running backs can get consistent yardage.  Does anyone know if
Adonis is back for this game?  His speed and agility were sorely missed
at West Point.  

Second, our "D" Line needs to make sure that the Illini don't run and
run and run all day, like the Wrigley game.  If we slow down their
running attack, we will win.

Third, our "D" Backs need to prevent "big plays" that will get the home
crowd into the game.  It seems to me (at least watching on the tube)
that the Illinois crowds will sometimes turn on their team quickly, if
they don't get off to a good start, and they are not the most vocal fans
in the conference in any event. 

I intend on watching the game at Buffalo Wild Wings in Stamford, CT with
a loyal cohort of 'Cat fans, some of whom were at the Army game.
Hopefully, we will have many "Purple Shots" and will be singing "Go U
Northwestern" after a plethora of scores.

Go 'Cats!  Persa Strong!

Paul Levinson 








-----Original Message-----
From: Jim Leonard <jleonard518 at yahoo.com>
To: Northwestern Wildcats <nwu-sports at tssi.com>
Sent: Wed, Sep 28, 2011 12:00 pm
Subject: [NU Sports] What's the mood this week?


I'm curious to know how everyone else feels about the upcoming game. I'm
both 
ervous and optimistic. I think Persa's return could be the spark that we
need 
o get the offense clicking. Illinois is 4-0, but I think it's a winnable
game. 
oming off the bye week I want to see a lot more energy from the team. 
Go Cats!
im
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From nolan at tssi.com  Wed Sep 28 12:36:32 2011
From: nolan at tssi.com (Mike Nolan)
Date: Wed, 28 Sep 2011 12:36:32 -0500 (CDT)
Subject: [NU Sports] What's the mood this week?
In-Reply-To: <1317225537.26678.YahooMailNeo@web36808.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <20110928173632.DC742611EE@romaine.tssi.com>

I am guardedly optimistic for the season, less optimistic perhaps for
this game due to Persa's still-unproven status.  

The next four weeks will be difficult, with road games against
Illinois and Iowa and home games against Michigan and Penn State.

The Big Ten has committments for 9 bowl games, right now the only
teams that looks unlikely to get to bowl eligibility are Minnesota
and Indiana.  Purdue's 2-1 but may have trouble finding 4 more
winnable games.  

ESPN's bloggers are currently pencilling us in for the Little Ceasars
Pizza Bowl in Detroit.

If we wind up at 6-6, we could be the odd man out if Purdue also gets to
6-6, especially if they notch up a win against a school like Notre Dame, 
unless one of the unaffiliated bowl games picks up a Big Ten school.

Seven wins might get us to a better bowl game.  Getting to 8 wins will
probably be a significant accomplishment in any season the way the Big Ten
is configured.  

Right now we're 2-1, to get to 6 wins we need to defeat Indiana, Minnesota
and Rice (all games in which we should be favored) plus one other win.

In terms of which games we are most likely to win, I'd rank the other 
games in this order at this point:

at Iowa
Michigan State
Michigan
at Illinois
Penn State
at Nebraska

I do not expect us to be favored in any of these games, we could easily
be double digit dogs in them all.  

I put Iowa at the top only because we've got a three game winning
streak in Iowa City.  I was tempted to put Illinois in second place,
but until I see how Persa performs I put it further down, below Michigan,
even with Robinson getting some Heisman chatter.

I think we'll all hold our breath the first few time he gets hit or takes off
in the open field on Saturday.

There is, however the Pam Ward factor to consider, since the Illinois
game is on ESPN2.  :-)

I put Penn State further down the list because they've seemed to own us
like we've owned Iowa.  Michigan State I put towards the top because, dammit,
we've blown too many leads against them, surely it's our turn, and
it's the home finale.  
--
Mike Nolan


From j-hodges at alumni.northwestern.edu  Wed Sep 28 15:43:40 2011
From: j-hodges at alumni.northwestern.edu (Jonathan Hodges)
Date: Wed, 28 Sep 2011 16:43:40 -0400
Subject: [NU Sports] What's the mood this week?
In-Reply-To: <20110928173632.DC742611EE@romaine.tssi.com>
References: <1317225537.26678.YahooMailNeo@web36808.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
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Message-ID: <CAAxRJu5uGAj22Qykcv=4ZqWKAr1zVsqZySxHu1eym6JX-rG_ow@mail.gmail.com>

I agree with most of your analysis, and it will be very interesting to see
how the 'Cats look with Persa back (don't underestimate the psychological
effect that he'll have on the whole team, hopefully the inverse of what we
saw when he went down last year).

One note: Pam Ward was "relegated" to ESPNU broadcasts last year, on the
call will be another female broadcaster (Beth Mowins, play-by-play) and
former Oregon HC/AD Mike Bellotti (color).

Go 'Cats!!!
Jonathan

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On Wed, Sep 28, 2011 at 1:36 PM, Mike Nolan <nolan at tssi.com> wrote:

> I am guardedly optimistic for the season, less optimistic perhaps for
> this game due to Persa's still-unproven status.
>
> The next four weeks will be difficult, with road games against
> Illinois and Iowa and home games against Michigan and Penn State.
>
> The Big Ten has committments for 9 bowl games, right now the only
> teams that looks unlikely to get to bowl eligibility are Minnesota
> and Indiana.  Purdue's 2-1 but may have trouble finding 4 more
> winnable games.
>
> ESPN's bloggers are currently pencilling us in for the Little Ceasars
> Pizza Bowl in Detroit.
>
> If we wind up at 6-6, we could be the odd man out if Purdue also gets to
> 6-6, especially if they notch up a win against a school like Notre Dame,
> unless one of the unaffiliated bowl games picks up a Big Ten school.
>
> Seven wins might get us to a better bowl game.  Getting to 8 wins will
> probably be a significant accomplishment in any season the way the Big Ten
> is configured.
>
> Right now we're 2-1, to get to 6 wins we need to defeat Indiana, Minnesota
> and Rice (all games in which we should be favored) plus one other win.
>
> In terms of which games we are most likely to win, I'd rank the other
> games in this order at this point:
>
> at Iowa
> Michigan State
> Michigan
> at Illinois
> Penn State
> at Nebraska
>
> I do not expect us to be favored in any of these games, we could easily
> be double digit dogs in them all.
>
> I put Iowa at the top only because we've got a three game winning
> streak in Iowa City.  I was tempted to put Illinois in second place,
> but until I see how Persa performs I put it further down, below Michigan,
> even with Robinson getting some Heisman chatter.
>
> I think we'll all hold our breath the first few time he gets hit or takes
> off
> in the open field on Saturday.
>
> There is, however the Pam Ward factor to consider, since the Illinois
> game is on ESPN2.  :-)
>
> I put Penn State further down the list because they've seemed to own us
> like we've owned Iowa.  Michigan State I put towards the top because,
> dammit,
> we've blown too many leads against them, surely it's our turn, and
> it's the home finale.
> --
> Mike Nolan
>
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From rstetson at capps-assoc.com  Wed Sep 28 15:50:44 2011
From: rstetson at capps-assoc.com (rstetson at capps-assoc.com)
Date: Wed, 28 Sep 2011 16:50:44 -0400
Subject: [NU Sports] =?utf-8?q?What=27s_the_mood_this_week_=3F?=
In-Reply-To: <20110928173632.DC742611EE@romaine.tssi.com>
References: <20110928173632.DC742611EE@romaine.tssi.com>
Message-ID: <dea1cda6-8073-4c32-8832-57bbce53e357@blur>

Don't forget. The revenge factor after last year's beatdown

Sent from my Verizon Wireless Phone

-----Original message-----
From: nolan at tssi.com (Mike Nolan)
To: jleonard518 at yahoo.com
Cc: Northwestern Wildcats <nwu-sports at tssi.com>
Sent: Wed, Sep 28, 2011 17:36:32 GMT+00:00
Subject: Re: [NU Sports] What's the mood this week?

I am guardedly optimistic for the season, less optimistic perhaps for
this game due to Persa's still-unproven status.  

The next four weeks will be difficult, with road games against
Illinois and Iowa and home games against Michigan and Penn State.

The Big Ten has committments for 9 bowl games, right now the only
teams that looks unlikely to get to bowl eligibility are Minnesota
and Indiana.  Purdue's 2-1 but may have trouble finding 4 more
winnable games.  

ESPN's bloggers are currently pencilling us in for the Little Ceasars
Pizza Bowl in Detroit.

If we wind up at 6-6, we could be the odd man out if Purdue also gets to
6-6, especially if they notch up a win against a school like Notre Dame, 
unless one of the unaffiliated bowl games picks up a Big Ten school.

Seven wins might get us to a better bowl game.  Getting to 8 wins will
probably be a significant accomplishment in any season the way the Big Ten
is configured.  

Right now we're 2-1, to get to 6 wins we need to defeat Indiana, Minnesota
and Rice (all games in which we should be favored) plus one other win.

In terms of which games we are most likely to win, I'd rank the other 
games in this order at this point:

at Iowa
Michigan State
Michigan
at Illinois
Penn State
at Nebraska

I do not expect us to be favored in any of these games, we could easily
be double digit dogs in them all.  

I put Iowa at the top only because we've got a three game winning
streak in Iowa City.  I was tempted to put Illinois in second place,
but until I see how Persa performs I put it further down, below Michigan,
even with Robinson getting some Heisman chatter.

I think we'll all hold our breath the first few time he gets hit or takes  
off
in the open field on Saturday.

There is, however the Pam Ward factor to consider, since the Illinois
game is on ESPN2.  :-)

I put Penn State further down the list because they've seemed to own us
like we've owned Iowa.  Michigan State I put towards the top because,  
dammit,
we've blown too many leads against them, surely it's our turn, and
it's the home finale.  
--
Mike Nolan

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From wildelk2 at aol.com  Thu Sep 29 11:51:39 2011
From: wildelk2 at aol.com (Eric Kunkel)
Date: Thu, 29 Sep 2011 12:51:39 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: [NU Sports] What's the mood this week?
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References: <1317225537.26678.YahooMailNeo@web36808.mail.mud.yahoo.com><8CE4C155C226015-2340-BFA71@webmail-d084.sysops.aol.com>
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   A group prayer would be nice.  The sermon today is "...imagine a world in which our defense allows less points than what our offense scores".  Speaking of which, we get DeNardo back as well as Arnold and Ellis; both who're expected to play alot.  
   I look for McCall to open the playbook and throw out everything and the kitchen sink.  No question, this is a "circle" game; revenge, position in standing, momentum...it has it all for both clubs.  I like that this game is turning into a rivalry game; I'm starting to hold almost...almost as much contempt for Illinois that I do for Ioa and Alvarez's son in Madison.  I like the jawin' going on . Makes for good theatre.  As a representative non-alum on our list, i have no problem what Fitz says about his players. They are special; to play Division 1 and endure the grind of an Ivy League-like school has to be tough.  Not everyone can do it. Just like West Point, who have special players.
  But it all comes down to winning games.  Both schools are better; its more fun when they're better at the same time.  We go for 7 out of 9 against Ill-noise.  What kind of Cat fan picks his team to lose against our in-state rival?  Not this one!  Git 'er done Danny Boy!  Stop the run, D!!!   Cats 31- Ill-noise 24.

   GO CATS!!      Eric



-----Original Message-----
From: Beamsley, Jeff <Jeff.Beamsley at covisint.com>
To: neonrye <neonrye at aol.com>; jleonard518 <jleonard518 at yahoo.com>; nwu-sports <nwu-sports at tssi.com>
Sent: Wed, Sep 28, 2011 1:12 pm
Subject: Re: [NU Sports] What's the mood this week?


I'm going to have to depend on the rest of you guys this weekend.  I
ill be at a church function all day Saturday and won't have access to
he internet.  The good news is that I will be able to add some
piritual support to the effort.
That said, this is the beginning of our Persa season.  
If he goes well, we will do well.
If he struggles, we will struggle.
I think that Illinois can be beat, and the old Persa could have done it.
We'll find out whether how the new Persa compares to the old on
aturday.
Jeff

-----Original Message-----
rom: nwu-sports-bounces at tssi.com [mailto:nwu-sports-bounces at tssi.com]
n Behalf Of neonrye at aol.com
ent: Wednesday, September 28, 2011 12:47 PM
o: jleonard518 at yahoo.com; nwu-sports at tssi.com
ubject: Re: [NU Sports] What's the mood this week?

, too, am nervous--don't know about optimistic, as there as so many
ariables here.  Will Persa and his receivers (especially Ebert) have
he timing necessary to connect regularly, so we maintain possession and
ept the defense off the field for long stretches?  The key to the game
ill be in the trenches--where we had all kinds of problems against
rmy.  
Our "O" Line has to step up big-time on Saturday, so that (a) Persa has
ufficient time to pick out secondary receivers and to find his rhythm
nd get his "sea legs" under him, especially early in the game and (b)
o our running backs can get consistent yardage.  Does anyone know if
donis is back for this game?  His speed and agility were sorely missed
t West Point.  
Second, our "D" Line needs to make sure that the Illini don't run and
un and run all day, like the Wrigley game.  If we slow down their
unning attack, we will win.
Third, our "D" Backs need to prevent "big plays" that will get the home
rowd into the game.  It seems to me (at least watching on the tube)
hat the Illinois crowds will sometimes turn on their team quickly, if
hey don't get off to a good start, and they are not the most vocal fans
n the conference in any event. 
I intend on watching the game at Buffalo Wild Wings in Stamford, CT with
 loyal cohort of 'Cat fans, some of whom were at the Army game.
opefully, we will have many "Purple Shots" and will be singing "Go U
orthwestern" after a plethora of scores.
Go 'Cats!  Persa Strong!
Paul Levinson 




----Original Message-----
rom: Jim Leonard <jleonard518 at yahoo.com>
o: Northwestern Wildcats <nwu-sports at tssi.com>
ent: Wed, Sep 28, 2011 12:00 pm
ubject: [NU Sports] What's the mood this week?

'm curious to know how everyone else feels about the upcoming game. I'm
oth 
rvous and optimistic. I think Persa's return could be the spark that we
eed 
 get the offense clicking. Illinois is 4-0, but I think it's a winnable
ame. 
ming off the bye week I want to see a lot more energy from the team. 
o Cats!
m
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From bwdolphin146 at yahoo.com  Thu Sep 29 14:25:15 2011
From: bwdolphin146 at yahoo.com (Brad Wilson)
Date: Thu, 29 Sep 2011 12:25:15 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [NU Sports] Mood indigo
Message-ID: <1317324315.46641.YahooMailNeo@web114707.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>

I want to be beat Illinois more than any team on the schedule every season and I know the 'Cats can do so, but I am gloomy about the prospects of doing so on the road, with a rusty QB and the return of the Colby Cheese defense, esp. stopping the run.

I think NU will need a big play or two from special teams or the defense to pull off the upset.

bw



?
"Stupidity is infinitely more fascinating than intelligence. Intelligence has its limits while stupidity has none. To observe a profoundly stupid individual can be very enriching, and that's why we should never feel contempt for them." -- Claude Chabrol (1930-2010)


"But to provoke -- in the good sense -- is the performer's role. It's not just to give one more concert. That's not culture. That"s marketing." -- Pierre Boulez


"Quis ipsos custodes custodiet?" -- Juvenal

From j-hodges at alumni.northwestern.edu  Thu Sep 29 14:32:35 2011
From: j-hodges at alumni.northwestern.edu (Jonathan Hodges)
Date: Thu, 29 Sep 2011 15:32:35 -0400
Subject: [NU Sports] Mood indigo
In-Reply-To: <1317324315.46641.YahooMailNeo@web114707.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>
References: <1317324315.46641.YahooMailNeo@web114707.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <CAAxRJu6LERNT-UFL3wjGXSc70VTWS8YbYHOuhmpoBWedaA-=RA@mail.gmail.com>

If you're looking for a big special teams factor, the stats this year are
promising:

NU kickoff returns rank 8th nationally (out of 120 FBS teams)
Illinois kick return defense ranks 92nd nationally

NU punt returns rank 25th nationally
Illinois punt return defense ranks 57th nationally

Venric Mark will likely be a factor in this one.


Jonathan

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On Thu, Sep 29, 2011 at 3:25 PM, Brad Wilson <bwdolphin146 at yahoo.com> wrote:

> I want to be beat Illinois more than any team on the schedule every season
> and I know the 'Cats can do so, but I am gloomy about the prospects of doing
> so on the road, with a rusty QB and the return of the Colby Cheese defense,
> esp. stopping the run.
>
> I think NU will need a big play or two from special teams or the defense to
> pull off the upset.
>
> bw
>
>
>
>
> "Stupidity is infinitely more fascinating than intelligence. Intelligence
> has its limits while stupidity has none. To observe a profoundly stupid
> individual can be very enriching, and that's why we should never feel
> contempt for them." -- Claude Chabrol (1930-2010)
>
>
> "But to provoke -- in the good sense -- is the performer's role. It's not
> just to give one more concert. That's not culture. That"s marketing." --
> Pierre Boulez
>
>
> "Quis ipsos custodes custodiet?" -- Juvenal
> _______________________________________________
> nwu-sports site list
> nwu-sports at tssi.com
> http://romaine.tssi.com/mailman/listinfo/nwu-sports
>
>

From bwdolphin146 at yahoo.com  Thu Sep 29 14:37:46 2011
From: bwdolphin146 at yahoo.com (Brad Wilson)
Date: Thu, 29 Sep 2011 12:37:46 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [NU Sports] Mood indigo
In-Reply-To: <CAAxRJu6LERNT-UFL3wjGXSc70VTWS8YbYHOuhmpoBWedaA-=RA@mail.gmail.com>
References: <1317324315.46641.YahooMailNeo@web114707.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>
 <CAAxRJu6LERNT-UFL3wjGXSc70VTWS8YbYHOuhmpoBWedaA-=RA@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <1317325066.16134.YahooMailNeo@web114706.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>

Well there's more reason to be optimistic -- maybe it's mood more purple and less blue now!

Kick returns will be critical to give Persa good field position and allow him to use all his weapons.

A Mark TD would be awfully nice. Opening kickoff maybe?

bw

?
"Stupidity is infinitely more fascinating than intelligence. Intelligence has its limits while stupidity has none. To observe a profoundly stupid individual can be very enriching, and that's why we should never feel contempt for them." -- Claude Chabrol (1930-2010)


"But to provoke -- in the good sense -- is the performer's role. It's not just to give one more concert. That's not culture. That"s marketing." -- Pierre Boulez


"Quis ipsos custodes custodiet?" -- Juvenal


________________________________
From: Jonathan Hodges <j-hodges at alumni.northwestern.edu>
To: Brad Wilson <bwdolphin146 at yahoo.com>
Cc: "nwu-sports at tssi.com" <nwu-sports at tssi.com>
Sent: Thursday, September 29, 2011 3:32 PM
Subject: Re: [NU Sports] Mood indigo


If you're looking for a big special teams factor, the stats this year are promising:

NU kickoff returns rank 8th nationally (out of 120 FBS teams)
Illinois kick return defense ranks 92nd nationally

NU punt returns rank 25th nationally
Illinois punt return defense ranks 57th nationally

Venric Mark will likely be a factor in this one.


Jonathan

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On Thu, Sep 29, 2011 at 3:25 PM, Brad Wilson <bwdolphin146 at yahoo.com> wrote:

I want to be beat Illinois more than any team on the schedule every season and I know the 'Cats can do so, but I am gloomy about the prospects of doing so on the road, with a rusty QB and the return of the Colby Cheese defense, esp. stopping the run.
>
>I think NU will need a big play or two from special teams or the defense to pull off the upset.
>
>bw
>
>
>
>?
>"Stupidity is infinitely more fascinating than intelligence. Intelligence has its limits while stupidity has none. To observe a profoundly stupid individual can be very enriching, and that's why we should never feel contempt for them." -- Claude Chabrol (1930-2010)
>
>
>"But to provoke -- in the good sense -- is the performer's role. It's not just to give one more concert. That's not culture. That"s marketing." -- Pierre Boulez
>
>
>"Quis ipsos custodes custodiet?" -- Juvenal
>_______________________________________________
>nwu-sports site list
>nwu-sports at tssi.com
>http://romaine.tssi.com/mailman/listinfo/nwu-sports
>
>

From jleonard518 at yahoo.com  Thu Sep 29 14:42:27 2011
From: jleonard518 at yahoo.com (Jim Leonard)
Date: Thu, 29 Sep 2011 12:42:27 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [NU Sports] Mood indigo
In-Reply-To: <1317324315.46641.YahooMailNeo@web114707.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>
References: <1317324315.46641.YahooMailNeo@web114707.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>
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I'm not very worried about Dan Persa. He's not the kind of guy who will gather much rust.?

I'm much more concerned about the offensive play calling and running game. I am still hoping that Trumpy, Smith or Green will take over as a featured back.?

Go Cats!
Jim




________________________________
From: Brad Wilson <bwdolphin146 at yahoo.com>
To: "nwu-sports at tssi.com" <nwu-sports at tssi.com>
Sent: Thursday, September 29, 2011 2:25 PM
Subject: [NU Sports] Mood indigo

I want to be beat Illinois more than any team on the schedule every season and I know the 'Cats can do so, but I am gloomy about the prospects of doing so on the road, with a rusty QB and the return of the Colby Cheese defense, esp. stopping the run.

I think NU will need a big play or two from special teams or the defense to pull off the upset.

bw



?
"Stupidity is infinitely more fascinating than intelligence. Intelligence has its limits while stupidity has none. To observe a profoundly stupid individual can be very enriching, and that's why we should never feel contempt for them." -- Claude Chabrol (1930-2010)


"But to provoke -- in the good sense -- is the performer's role. It's not just to give one more concert. That's not culture. That"s marketing." -- Pierre Boulez


"Quis ipsos custodes custodiet?" -- Juvenal
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From rstetson at capps-assoc.com  Thu Sep 29 17:30:48 2011
From: rstetson at capps-assoc.com (Roy S. Lamberton)
Date: Thu, 29 Sep 2011 18:30:48 -0400
Subject: [NU Sports] Mood indigo
In-Reply-To: <1317325347.46825.YahooMailNeo@web36807.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
References: <1317324315.46641.YahooMailNeo@web114707.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>
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I agree about Persa.

But as long as we can get 2 or 3 backs combining for 150 yards, I'll expect victory.

I also wouldn't get too gloomy over the defense - We've been doing the job, with the
exception of the (nobody else runs it ) wishbone. While I'm concerned about Nebraska -
they also run a triple option - most Big 10 Offenses lend themselves to NU's style of
play.

Ill-noise is a known factor, and even though we're playing at "their" house, our QB won't
be a first time starter. It could be a double blowout, IMHO.

rsl

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-----Original Message-----
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Leonard
Sent: Thursday, September 29, 2011 3:42 PM
To: nwu-sports at tssi.com
Subject: Re: [NU Sports] Mood indigo

I'm not very worried about Dan Persa. He's not the kind of guy who will gather much rust.?

I'm much more concerned about the offensive play calling and running game. I am still
hoping that Trumpy, Smith or Green will take over as a featured back.?

Go Cats!
Jim




________________________________
From: Brad Wilson <bwdolphin146 at yahoo.com>
To: "nwu-sports at tssi.com" <nwu-sports at tssi.com>
Sent: Thursday, September 29, 2011 2:25 PM
Subject: [NU Sports] Mood indigo

I want to be beat Illinois more than any team on the schedule every season and I know the
'Cats can do so, but I am gloomy about the prospects of doing so on the road, with a rusty
QB and the return of the Colby Cheese defense, esp. stopping the run.

I think NU will need a big play or two from special teams or the defense to pull off the
upset.

bw



?
"Stupidity is infinitely more fascinating than intelligence. Intelligence has its limits
while stupidity has none. To observe a profoundly stupid individual can be very enriching,
and that's why we should never feel contempt for them." -- Claude Chabrol (1930-2010)


"But to provoke -- in the good sense -- is the performer's role. It's not just to give one
more concert. That's not culture. That"s marketing." -- Pierre Boulez


"Quis ipsos custodes custodiet?" -- Juvenal
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From MHRJGScott at aol.com  Thu Sep 29 19:30:32 2011
From: MHRJGScott at aol.com (MHRJGScott at aol.com)
Date: Thu, 29 Sep 2011 20:30:32 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: [NU Sports] Mood indigo
Message-ID: <37691.35a30df2.3bb667a8@aol.com>

My prediction, based on nothing more than my purple blood is that Persa  
comes back with a ungodly desire to compete and the team embarrassed last year 
 at Wrigley (temple of embarrassment) will kill illnoise  40-10,
GO CATS!!!!!

From tbng at comcast.net  Thu Sep 29 20:16:43 2011
From: tbng at comcast.net (Dennis W. Brandt)
Date: Thu, 29 Sep 2011 21:16:43 -0400
Subject: [NU Sports] Mood indigo
References: <37691.35a30df2.3bb667a8@aol.com>
Message-ID: <E95F07A1E96B4F5881AEFFFCBCBFCBD0@dennismachine>

> My prediction, based on nothing more than my purple blood is that Persa
> comes back with a ungodly desire to compete and the team embarrassed last 
> year
> at Wrigley (temple of embarrassment) will kill illnoise  40-10,
> GO CATS!!!!!

You truly believe that our defense will hold Illinois to 10 points?  Only if 
they get a severe case of fumble-itis. 


From nolan at tssi.com  Fri Sep 30 11:49:09 2011
From: nolan at tssi.com (Mike Nolan)
Date: Fri, 30 Sep 2011 11:49:09 -0500 (CDT)
Subject: [NU Sports] NUMB lyrics for On Wisconsin
Message-ID: <20110930164909.47BC56155B@romaine.tssi.com>

Can a NUMBalum send me the NUMB lyrics to On Wisconsin?

I think the people on the Husker List might get a kick out of them.

There's a gourmet food store in Lincoln running an 'Un-Wisconsin'
sale tomorrow, all cheeses are 10% off--EXCEPT ones from Wisconsin!

So now I can't get that doggoned fight song out of my head!
--
Mike Nolan


From sjtruog at yahoo.com  Fri Sep 30 13:04:08 2011
From: sjtruog at yahoo.com (Stephen Truog)
Date: Fri, 30 Sep 2011 11:04:08 -0700
Subject: [NU Sports] NUMB lyrics for On Wisconsin
In-Reply-To: <20110930164909.47BC56155B@romaine.tssi.com>
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As far as I recall ...

Aww, Wisconsin! Poor Wisconsin!
Party school of shaaaaame
You would enjoy academics
But you lack the brains! (Let's go drink!)

Awe, Wisconsin! Poor Wisconsin!
Drink yerselves insaaaaane
Drink! For your Badgers will get
TRASHED this game! GO CATS!!!

Then there's a second verse consisting only of cheeses, but I don't have all of those lyrics.

Should be a good game -- too much red with food on the head for my liking, but a heck of a way to get introduced to the new league!

STEPHEN J. TRUOG
sjtruog at yahoo.com


On Sep 30, 2011, at 9:49 AM, nolan at tssi.com (Mike Nolan) wrote:

> Can a NUMBalum send me the NUMB lyrics to On Wisconsin?
> 
> I think the people on the Husker List might get a kick out of them.
> 
> There's a gourmet food store in Lincoln running an 'Un-Wisconsin'
> sale tomorrow, all cheeses are 10% off--EXCEPT ones from Wisconsin!
> 
> So now I can't get that doggoned fight song out of my head!
> --
> Mike Nolan
> 
> _______________________________________________
> nwu-sports site list
> nwu-sports at tssi.com
> http://romaine.tssi.com/mailman/listinfo/nwu-sports


From nolan at tssi.com  Fri Sep 30 13:28:09 2011
From: nolan at tssi.com (Mike Nolan)
Date: Fri, 30 Sep 2011 13:28:09 -0500 (CDT)
Subject: [NU Sports] NUMB lyrics for On Wisconsin
In-Reply-To: <BD0E9462-3782-4651-BF30-D742411EA6F5@yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <20110930182809.9710E613D6@romaine.tssi.com>

> Then there's a second verse consisting only of cheeses, but I don't have all
>  of those lyrics.

LOL!

> Should be a good game -- too much red with food on the head for my liking, 
> but a heck of a way to get introduced to the new league!

Yes, it will be interesting to see if Russell Wilson is as good as his
stats against (arguably) lesser defenses suggest.  He's certainly put
up better numbers (so far) than he did in three seasons at NC State.
It probably helps that he has a bigger OL and better running backs 
than before.

But if stats are what matters, Robert Griffin III from Baylor is really 
lighting it up this season, his completion percentage is a stunning 85.4% 
and he has thrown more TD passes than incomplete passes!

Baylor - KSU should be an interesting game in between the NU - Illinois 
and the UNL - Wisconsin games.  KSU has been pretty stingy on pass defense
so far this season.  

Does anybody know if NUMB planning to make the trip to Lincoln this year?  
--
Mike Nolan


From j-hodges at alumni.northwestern.edu  Fri Sep 30 13:37:27 2011
From: j-hodges at alumni.northwestern.edu (Jonathan Hodges)
Date: Fri, 30 Sep 2011 14:37:27 -0400
Subject: [NU Sports] NUMB lyrics for On Wisconsin
In-Reply-To: <20110930182809.9710E613D6@romaine.tssi.com>
References: <BD0E9462-3782-4651-BF30-D742411EA6F5@yahoo.com>
 <20110930182809.9710E613D6@romaine.tssi.com>
Message-ID: <CAAxRJu4KFmkLmwm1qf6j968SkgMCGUTXKfM2_Y94S5rCqTLtrQ@mail.gmail.com>

NUMB's away trip this year will be to Iowa.

Note that with the athletic department now supporting NUMB financially
(finally! this will include new uniforms to be unveiled at next week's
Michigan game and much better support including swag bags with apparel and
such) there may be an opportunity for longer distance trips (since 2000,
NUMB hasn't traveled to: Minnesota, Wisconsin, Lincoln (obviously),
Columbus, or State College).

--
Jonathan Hodges
Contributor, HailToPurple
Web: http://www.hailtopurple.com/jhodges/
Twitter: @hailtopurple
Email: j-hodges at alumni.northwestern.edu



On Fri, Sep 30, 2011 at 2:28 PM, Mike Nolan <nolan at tssi.com> wrote:

> > Then there's a second verse consisting only of cheeses, but I don't have
> all
> >  of those lyrics.
>
> LOL!
>
> > Should be a good game -- too much red with food on the head for my
> liking,
> > but a heck of a way to get introduced to the new league!
>
> Yes, it will be interesting to see if Russell Wilson is as good as his
> stats against (arguably) lesser defenses suggest.  He's certainly put
> up better numbers (so far) than he did in three seasons at NC State.
> It probably helps that he has a bigger OL and better running backs
> than before.
>
> But if stats are what matters, Robert Griffin III from Baylor is really
> lighting it up this season, his completion percentage is a stunning 85.4%
> and he has thrown more TD passes than incomplete passes!
>
> Baylor - KSU should be an interesting game in between the NU - Illinois
> and the UNL - Wisconsin games.  KSU has been pretty stingy on pass defense
> so far this season.
>
> Does anybody know if NUMB planning to make the trip to Lincoln this year?
> --
> Mike Nolan
>
> _______________________________________________
> nwu-sports site list
> nwu-sports at tssi.com
> http://romaine.tssi.com/mailman/listinfo/nwu-sports
>
>

From jleonard518 at yahoo.com  Fri Sep 30 15:10:26 2011
From: jleonard518 at yahoo.com (Jim Leonard)
Date: Fri, 30 Sep 2011 13:10:26 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [NU Sports] Prediction
Message-ID: <1317413426.66582.YahooMailNeo@web36807.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

I have nothing to base my prediction on other than purple pride.?

Persa is an awesome athlete and a great competitor. I think he will make the difference for us if Mick McCall doesn't suddenly try to run a wing-T offense. Illinois is good but beatable. Let's start the 'Fire Ron Zook, Draft Chris Christie' movement tomorrow.

Northwestern: 27
Illinois: ?21

Victory & Honor,
Jim

From sjtruog at yahoo.com  Fri Sep 30 18:54:45 2011
From: sjtruog at yahoo.com (Stephen Truog)
Date: Fri, 30 Sep 2011 16:54:45 -0700
Subject: [NU Sports] NUMB lyrics for On Wisconsin
In-Reply-To: <CAAxRJu4KFmkLmwm1qf6j968SkgMCGUTXKfM2_Y94S5rCqTLtrQ@mail.gmail.com>
References: <BD0E9462-3782-4651-BF30-D742411EA6F5@yahoo.com>
 <20110930182809.9710E613D6@romaine.tssi.com>
 <CAAxRJu4KFmkLmwm1qf6j968SkgMCGUTXKfM2_Y94S5rCqTLtrQ@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <50DD6A0C-B391-4C78-B999-D7D5C6B67643@yahoo.com>

Hey! I didn't get any apples! :)

Hopefully there will still be plenty of pepsi, schweps and ooorange crush for those 9:30 am "lunches" before the game. :)

STEPHEN J. TRUOG
sjtruog at yahoo.com


On Sep 30, 2011, at 11:37 AM, Jonathan Hodges <j-hodges at alumni.northwestern.edu> wrote:

> NUMB's away trip this year will be to Iowa.
> 
> Note that with the athletic department now supporting NUMB financially (finally! this will include new uniforms to be unveiled at next week's Michigan game and much better support including swag bags with apparel and such) there may be an opportunity for longer distance trips (since 2000, NUMB hasn't traveled to: Minnesota, Wisconsin, Lincoln (obviously), Columbus, or State College).
> 
> --
> Jonathan Hodges
> Contributor, HailToPurple
> Web: http://www.hailtopurple.com/jhodges/
> Twitter: @hailtopurple
> Email: j-hodges at alumni.northwestern.edu
> 
> 
> 
> On Fri, Sep 30, 2011 at 2:28 PM, Mike Nolan <nolan at tssi.com> wrote:
> > Then there's a second verse consisting only of cheeses, but I don't have all
> >  of those lyrics.
> 
> LOL!
> 
> > Should be a good game -- too much red with food on the head for my liking,
> > but a heck of a way to get introduced to the new league!
> 
> Yes, it will be interesting to see if Russell Wilson is as good as his
> stats against (arguably) lesser defenses suggest.  He's certainly put
> up better numbers (so far) than he did in three seasons at NC State.
> It probably helps that he has a bigger OL and better running backs
> than before.
> 
> But if stats are what matters, Robert Griffin III from Baylor is really
> lighting it up this season, his completion percentage is a stunning 85.4%
> and he has thrown more TD passes than incomplete passes!
> 
> Baylor - KSU should be an interesting game in between the NU - Illinois
> and the UNL - Wisconsin games.  KSU has been pretty stingy on pass defense
> so far this season.
> 
> Does anybody know if NUMB planning to make the trip to Lincoln this year?
> --
> Mike Nolan
> 
> _______________________________________________
> nwu-sports site list
> nwu-sports at tssi.com
> http://romaine.tssi.com/mailman/listinfo/nwu-sports
> 
> 

From nolan at tssi.com  Fri Sep 30 20:58:43 2011
From: nolan at tssi.com (Mike Nolan)
Date: Fri, 30 Sep 2011 20:58:43 -0500 (CDT)
Subject: [NU Sports] NUMB lyrics for On Wisconsin
In-Reply-To: <50DD6A0C-B391-4C78-B999-D7D5C6B67643@yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <20111001015843.84E7E615FE@romaine.tssi.com>

Stephen, do you have the NUMB lyrics for Michigan?
--
Mike Nolan


