[NU Sports] one angle I wonder about

Alan Abrahamson alan.abrahamson at gmail.com
Wed Nov 9 22:36:14 CST 2011


Roy,

Please don't for a second confuse innocent until proven guilty in a case of
law with what's going on here.

Mr. Sandusky is absolutely innocent until and until proven guilty in a
courtroom by a jury of his peers.

As for whether Mr. Paterno and Mr. Spanier deserved the moral trust that
enabled them to stay in their jobs -- that related to entirely different
set of questions. Those were the questions put before the university board
of trustees tonight, and the trustees decided they no longer enjoyed that
trust.

Best, Alan



On Wed, Nov 9, 2011 at 8:27 PM, Roy S. Lamberton
<rstetson at capps-assoc.com>wrote:

> Let's see, kill PSU Football for 2 years,
>
> Well, all of the Big 10 helped put PSU in their exalted status, so maybe
> ALL of the Big 10
> should shut down for 2 years.
>
> That would sure send a message to those trustees all over the country that
> we mean
> business.
>
> There is an old joke about large organizations that when something fails,
> you reward the
> guilty and punish the innocent. Killing PSU Football is a classic case of
> punishing the
> innocent, regardless of whether they are guilty of other things we don't
> know about.
> They've already punished the suspected... so much for innocent until
> proven guilty.
>
> Dumping JoePa and putting the rest of the staff on a short list will
> effect PSU's
> recruiting immediately, and unless the PSU team decides to win out,
> finishing in the chase
> for the Big 10 title game is going to be a long haul too, IMHO.
>
> (and remember the custodian in Seaford who was accused, lost everything,
> and never even
> went to trial.)
>
> rsl
>
>
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: nwu-sports-bounces at tssi.com [mailto:nwu-sports-bounces at tssi.com] On
> Behalf Of Alan
> Abrahamson
> Sent: Wednesday, November 09, 2011 10:20 PM
> To: SjT (Stephen J. Truog)
> Cc: nwu-sports at tssi.com
> Subject: Re: [NU Sports] one angle I wonder about
>
> Stephen,
>
> The argument that "no player on the football team is involved and therefore
> they shouldn't be punished" holds zero water. See Reggie Bush and this
> year's USC team, as I mentioned before. Life is not fair. That's the way it
> is.
>
> Alan
>
>
>
>
>
> On Wed, Nov 9, 2011 at 6:51 PM, SjT (Stephen J. Truog) <sjtruog at yahoo.com
> >wrote:
>
> > We seem to be spiraling out of control on this list faster than the media
> > circus in State College.
> >
> > Why on earth would PSU not play in the bowl game or Big Ten title game?
> >
> > Should PSU cancel classes because their president is about to be fired?
> > Should all sports teams cancel their weekend plans because the AD will be
> > out soon as well? If the basketball coach gets arrested for DUI, would
> the
> > hoops team cancel its season???
> >
> > This is starting to get a bit far fetched. NO player on the football team
> > is involved in this -- why punish them?
> >
> > Whether Paterno finishes the season with them or not is another matter --
> > getting rid of him now seems to let the school off the hook and dim the
> > spotlight, finishing with him certainly could lead to awkward moments at
> > the Big Ten or Rose Bowl trophy presentations. But most of the coaching
> > staff and all of the players were not involved here - why punish them?
> >
> > I agree that because of the publicity, PSU is no longer a B(C)S at-large
> > candidate (though an SEC school with a lengthy police blotter is fine
> > apparently), but they should still finish their season and go to whatever
> > bowl the team earns.
> >
> > I hate to keep comparing it to the Catholic Church, but as I said
> earlier,
> > this is really more of a moral scandal like that than an athletic one.
> But
> > were all the congregations shuttered? Were the parishes of the priests
> > charged disbanded?
> >
> > Let's not get so far caught up in the media circus that we forget who the
> > criminals are here. Paterno has his moral mistakes to live with, but he
> is
> > not legally charged with anything, the facts are not all out yet and it
> > doesn't involve anything with the football players or team on the field.
> He
> > may not deserve to be the coach, but they deserve to play!!!
> >
> > GO CATS!!!
> > -SjT
> >
> >
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