[NU Sports] If you ran Penn State...

Jonathan Hodges j-hodges at alumni.northwestern.edu
Tue Nov 8 11:20:56 CST 2011


>From the New York Times: " Joe
Paterno<http://topics.nytimes.com/top/reference/timestopics/people/p/joe_paterno/index.html?inline=nyt-per>’s
tenure as coach of the Penn State football team will soon be over, perhaps
within days or weeks"

http://www.nytimes.com/2011/11/09/sports/ncaafootball/penn-state-said-to-be-planning-paternos-exit.html?_r=1&src=tp

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On Tue, Nov 8, 2011 at 12:10 PM, Beamsley, Jeff
<Jeff.Beamsley at covisint.com>wrote:

> Jim,
>
>
>
> There is additional information coming out regarding the PSU President
> Spanier.
>
>
>
> He holds degrees (including one from NU) and is a professor of human
> development and family studies, sociology, demography, and family and
> community medicine.  According to his bio, he is a distinguished
> researcher and scholar, has more than 100 scholarly publications,
> including 10 books, and was the founding editor of the Journal of Family
> Issues. He is also a family sociologist, demographer, and marriage and
> family therapist.  So if anyone was familiar with the behavior of
> pedophiles, the damage suffered by their victims, and the vigilance
> communities must demonstrate to protect children from potential attack -
> IT'S THIS GUY.
>
>
>
> He received a report on the 2002 incident.  Even if it said that this
> was just some innocent grab ass rough housing in the shower, it was
> between an adult man and a young boy.  Even a sanitized report should
> have been all a trained professional like Spanier needed to pick up the
> phone and call somebody, if nothing else than to make sure that there
> wasn't more going on.  If he had conducted his own internal
> investigation, it would probably have turned up the unreported 2000
> incident that the janitors witnessed and the grand jury reported on.
>
>
>
> I sincerely hope that there is more here to paint the whole institution
> in a better light.  Otherwise this is very sad.
>
>
>
> Jeff
>
>
>
> From: Jim Leonard [mailto:jleonard518 at yahoo.com]
> Sent: Tuesday, November 08, 2011 11:44 AM
> To: Bill Bender; Beamsley, Jeff; Northwestern Wildcats
> Subject: Re: [NU Sports] If you ran Penn State...
>
>
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> I am not familiar with the NCAA regulations but I'm not sure this is a
> death penalty/ sports issue. The NCAA should be focused on the players
> going to class, not receiving money, etc. I could stand corrected, but I
> don't see the NCAA getting deeply involved.
>
>
>
> There are two separate issues at hand. One is legal and as Jeff pointed
> out the two fall guys have probably been identified. The other issue is
> who shall be allowed to represent the school. When the alumni proudly
> chant, "WE ARE....PENN STATE" what ARE they really all about? I think
> the line has been blurred greatly in recent years but you don't need to
> be in legal trouble to be fired. Penn State can send a message to Joe
> Paterno that says "You may not go to jail, but you did not live up to
> our standards and you no longer represent us."
>
>
>
> I personally would like to see about 50,000 empty seats in Beaver
> Stadium on Saturday. I'd like to see a message from PSU fans that "WE
> ARE.....BETTER THAN THIS"
>
>
>
> Jim
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> From: Bill Bender <bbds5951 at yahoo.com>
> To: "Beamsley, Jeff" <Jeff.Beamsley at covisint.com>; Jim Leonard
> <jleonard518 at yahoo.com>; Northwestern Wildcats <nwu-sports at tssi.com>
> Sent: Tuesday, November 8, 2011 10:18 AM
> Subject: Re: [NU Sports] If you ran Penn State...
>
> Another question is what the NCAA will do about this. It's by far the
> worst scandal in the history of college football.
>
>
>
> Hard to argue that you have institutional control of your program when
> your AD is facing criminal charges for covering up serial child rape.
>
>
>
> I think they should get the death penalty.
>
>
>
> BB
>
>
>
> From: "Beamsley, Jeff" <Jeff.Beamsley at covisint.com>
> To: Jim Leonard <jleonard518 at yahoo.com>; Northwestern Wildcats
> <nwu-sports at tssi.com>
> Sent: Tuesday, November 8, 2011 10:08 AM
> Subject: Re: [NU Sports] If you ran Penn State...
>
> Clearly a complex situation because there is the legal question and
> there is the moral question.
>
> PSU appears to have covered themselves on the legal front.
>
> There is the "he said/she said" discussion around what the Grad
> Assistant saw and then said to JoePa, the AD, and the VP.  JoePa appears
> to have followed PSU policy which was to immediately notify the AD.  The
> AD followed policy to notify the VP.  The AD and VP are now positioned
> to take the fall for the rest of the institution and the Grand Jury
> appeared willing to accept that trade.
>
> So if it was my job to protect the institution of Penn State, I would do
> exactly what they are doing.  Limit the damage, cooperate with the
> authorities, blame the fall guys for bad judgment, pay for their
> defense, and hope that some dedicated alum will take care of them once
> they've served their time.
>
> I would also have Joe's retirement agreement in my back pocket in case
> this starts to reach beyond the existing indictments.  If it goes not
> further than these two, I would allow Joe to gracefully announce his
> retirement at a time in the not too distant future when it won't
> resurrect the whole scandal.
>
> Finally, I would have to ask myself if this job is worth the moral
> compromises that it has required me to make and might start to plan my
> own retirement.  But that's just me.
>
> Jeff
>
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: nwu-sports-bounces at tssi.com [mailto:nwu-sports-bounces at tssi.com]
> On Behalf Of Jim Leonard
> Sent: Tuesday, November 08, 2011 10:44 AM
> To: Northwestern Wildcats
> Subject: [NU Sports] If you ran Penn State...
>
> If you were the top person at Penn State (I assume it's a chancellor or
> provost), what would you do today?
>
> Would you let Coach Paterno's staff finish the season?
> Would you selectively let Joe Paterno and Mike McQueary go?
> Would you clean house between now and Saturday?
>
> This is not an easy situation. I would imagine that the top brass are
> hoping beyond hope that Tom Bradley can honestly say he knew nothing and
> can take over the reigns for at least the rest of this season. Joe
> Paterno may have a a thin veil of protection left, depending on what he
> was told. However, if it were up to me Mike McQueary would never
> represent the university again, starting today.
>
> Jim
>
>
> PS - I have come to accept the fact that Ron Vanderlinden would never
> leave Happy Valley for Evanston but I wonder if that may change during
> the off season.
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