[NU Sports] Pay to Play

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Except that the BT and PAC-12 have consistently been against any talk of a playoff.  I think this talk about a stipend is in part a recognition that a scholarship does not cover the basic costs of attending school and a kid from a struggling family, who is unable to have an outside job, has no spending money for dates, laundry or hanging out at a bar.  There is also a court case working its way through the system on the restrictions the NCAA has placed on outside income while prohibiting schools from funding the full cost of attendance.

Mark S. Ament
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On May 20, 2011, at 11:07 AM, Jim Leonard <jleonard518 at yahoo.com> wrote:

> Jeff,
> 
> I think you've hit the name on the head. I would be that this idea is a trial 
> balloon to see if the Big Ten and other major conferences intend to stay with 
> the NCAA. The Big Ten is very close to being self-sufficient and other big 
> conferences would likely follow.
> 
> Jim
> 
>  
> 
> 
> ----- Original Message ----
> From: "Beamsley, Jeff" <Jeff.Beamsley at covisint.com>
> To: Roy S. Lamberton <rstetson at capps-assoc.com>; Tom Maycock 
> <tkmaycock at yahoo.com>; MHRJGScott at aol.com; nwu-sports at tssi.com
> Sent: Fri, May 20, 2011 8:29:17 AM
> Subject: Re: [NU Sports] Pay to Play
> 
> I think it is very interesting that the BT took the first move.
> 
> If the BT is successful in figuring out how to implement and manage
> this, it's going to give BT schools a recruiting advantage.  Wonder if
> the NCAA is going to try to claw back some stronger commitments on
> graduation rates.
> 
> It also sets up an interesting dynamic if the NCAA drags their feet.
> The big conferences could use this issue to threaten to break away from
> the NCAA and implement the post season playoff system that has also been
> a hot topic of discussion.  
> 
> This is definitely another example of how the big conferences can widen
> their competitive advantage over the smaller conferences.
> 
> Jeff
> 
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> From: nwu-sports-bounces at tssi.com [mailto:nwu-sports-bounces at tssi.com]
> On Behalf Of Roy S. Lamberton
> Sent: Friday, May 20, 2011 9:14 AM
> To: 'Tom Maycock'; MHRJGScott at aol.com; nwu-sports at tssi.com
> Subject: Re: [NU Sports] Pay to Play
> 
> My youngest son, who is attending a local university but living off the
> campus, was given
> a credit card with the total amount of his scholarship/loan award to
> spend as he saw fit. 
> 
> 
> 
> He can use the card to pay for tuition, school supplies, a new laptop,
> virtually anything
> you can use a basic credit card for as he finishes his education.
> (including beer at the
> bar)
> 
> 
> 
> Right now, I think athletes have an account with the book store, a meal
> pass at the
> cafeteria and essentially a free ride on fees and tuition. Kids on need
> scholarships get
> additional money to spend as they wish - athletic scholarships limit
> everything to school
> expenses period and the NCAA considers additional money a no-no.
> 
> 
> 
> That kind of thinking leads to the $100 handshake after the game, or a
> $20 slipped into a
> locker - sure times have changed, but the big time booster alums will
> always find a way to
> reward top football and basketball players. 
> 
> 
> 
> What I think everyone is missing is that if you pay football and
> basketball players
> additional money, you have to pay every scholarship sport that "living
> expense" or you
> lose the concept of fairness in the athletic departments. Kids in the
> non-revenue
> producing sports usually get half, third and quarter scholarships. Do
> you then prorate the
> awards?
> 
> 
> 
> I'm sure that is what the NCAA and the big conferences are wrestling
> with right now.
> 
> 
> 
> rsl
> 
> 
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> From: Tom Maycock [mailto:tkmaycock at yahoo.com] 
> Sent: Thursday, May 19, 2011 6:04 PM
> To: Roy S. Lamberton; MHRJGScott at aol.com; nwu-sports at tssi.com
> Subject: Re: [NU Sports] Pay to Play
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> 
> 
> Not kidding--it's been reported in several sources that the B10 is
> looking at the
> possibility of additional stipends of some kind. For example:
> 
> 
> 
> http://www.cbssports.com/collegefootball/story/15079622/sec-commish-sliv
> e-open-to-talk-abo
> ut-full-cost-scholarships
> 
> 
> 
> Tom
> 
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> 
> 
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> From: Roy S. Lamberton <rstetson at capps-assoc.com>
> To: MHRJGScott at aol.com; nwu-sports at tssi.com
> Sent: Thursday, May 19, 2011 4:56 PM
> Subject: Re: [NU Sports] Pay to Play
> 
> Was that Wilbon, or Kornhauser?
> 
> And were they kidding?
> 
> rsl
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: nwu-sports-bounces at tssi.com [mailto:nwu-sports-bounces at tssi.com]
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> Sent: Thursday, May 19, 2011 5:50 PM
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> Subject: [NU Sports] Pay to Play
> 
> PTI is reporting that the BT is considering paying football players a
> few  
> grand per year, sounds good to me, comments?
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