From nolan at romaine.tssi.com  Sun May  1 22:08:02 2011
From: nolan at romaine.tssi.com (Mike Nolan)
Date: Sun, 1 May 2011 22:08:02 -0500
Subject: [NU Sports] No Cats drafted?
Message-ID: <20110502030802.GA7237@romaine.tssi.com>

No Cats were drafted, will any be able to sign free agent contract
or does the labor mess preclude that?
--
Mike Nolan

PS.  If I haven't run out of typos, hopefully I've got the new system
ready to go.


From rstetson at capps-assoc.com  Sun May  1 22:25:38 2011
From: rstetson at capps-assoc.com (Roy S. Lamberton)
Date: Sun, 1 May 2011 23:25:38 -0400
Subject: [NU Sports] No Cats drafted?
In-Reply-To: <20110502030802.GA7237@romaine.tssi.com>
References: <20110502030802.GA7237@romaine.tssi.com>
Message-ID: <002601cc0878$9bb43cc0$d31cb640$@com>

They are not able to sign any new guys to free agent contracts, but....

rsl

++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
Roy S. Lamberton - Senior Associate & Unix Guru.
Computer Applications & Support Associates
-------------------- Also ----------------------
"Commissioner" Delaware American Legion Baseball
Director Media Relations - Little League 
  Senior League Softball World Series
CTR2 USN (67-70) - CTRCS USNR (Ret) (64-67/70-95)
Northwestern University - Speech 1974 - 
Chi Phi: Pi 1974, KD 1968
Publisher Emeritus: Purple Reign (Fox Sports)
================================================
Opinions expressed above are mine alone and are not
those of any organizations of which I am a member.
------------------------------------------------
If you think that there might be some form of practical 'clean energy'
that could appease the environmentalists--say, geothermal--you're 
missing the point. The whole environmentalist idea of a minimal 
'footprint' is fundamentally anti-energy." --Alex Epstein
==========  Go Cats -? Beat 'em All  ===========


-----Original Message-----
From: nwu-sports-bounces at tssi.com [mailto:nwu-sports-bounces at tssi.com] On Behalf Of Mike
Nolan
Sent: Sunday, May 01, 2011 11:08 PM
To: nwu-sports at romaine.tssi.com
Subject: [NU Sports] No Cats drafted?

No Cats were drafted, will any be able to sign free agent contract
or does the labor mess preclude that?
--
Mike Nolan

PS.  If I haven't run out of typos, hopefully I've got the new system
ready to go.

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From neonrye at aol.com  Mon May  2 08:27:32 2011
From: neonrye at aol.com (neonrye at aol.com)
Date: Mon, 2 May 2011 13:27:32 +0000
Subject: [NU Sports] OSAMA
In-Reply-To: <002601cc0878$9bb43cc0$d31cb640$@com>
References: <20110502030802.GA7237@romaine.tssi.com><002601cc0878$9bb43cc0$d31cb640$@com>
Message-ID: <1239795965-1304342774-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-1833542707-@bda544.bisx.prod.on.blackberry>

How about a collective List cheer for our brave troops and Special Forces, General Petraeus, and our President and his Administration for a job well (and meticulously) done.  The world is a better place today.

Now if we could just rid it of Buckeyes....:-)

Seriously, we all have a lot to be thankful for this morning.

Paul Levinson (from NYC)
Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry

-----Original Message-----
From: "Roy S. Lamberton" <rstetson at capps-assoc.com>
Sender: nwu-sports-bounces at tssi.com
Date: Sun, 1 May 2011 23:25:38 
To: 'Mike Nolan'<nolan at romaine.tssi.com>; <nwu-sports at romaine.tssi.com>
Subject: Re: [NU Sports] No Cats drafted?

They are not able to sign any new guys to free agent contracts, but....

rsl

++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
Roy S. Lamberton - Senior Associate & Unix Guru.
Computer Applications & Support Associates
-------------------- Also ----------------------
"Commissioner" Delaware American Legion Baseball
Director Media Relations - Little League 
  Senior League Softball World Series
CTR2 USN (67-70) - CTRCS USNR (Ret) (64-67/70-95)
Northwestern University - Speech 1974 - 
Chi Phi: Pi 1974, KD 1968
Publisher Emeritus: Purple Reign (Fox Sports)
================================================
Opinions expressed above are mine alone and are not
those of any organizations of which I am a member.
------------------------------------------------
If you think that there might be some form of practical 'clean energy'
that could appease the environmentalists--say, geothermal--you're 
missing the point. The whole environmentalist idea of a minimal 
'footprint' is fundamentally anti-energy." --Alex Epstein
==========  Go Cats -? Beat 'em All  ===========


-----Original Message-----
From: nwu-sports-bounces at tssi.com [mailto:nwu-sports-bounces at tssi.com] On Behalf Of Mike
Nolan
Sent: Sunday, May 01, 2011 11:08 PM
To: nwu-sports at romaine.tssi.com
Subject: [NU Sports] No Cats drafted?

No Cats were drafted, will any be able to sign free agent contract
or does the labor mess preclude that?
--
Mike Nolan

PS.  If I haven't run out of typos, hopefully I've got the new system
ready to go.

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From Jeff.Beamsley at covisint.com  Mon May  2 10:07:29 2011
From: Jeff.Beamsley at covisint.com (Beamsley, Jeff)
Date: Mon, 2 May 2011 11:07:29 -0400
Subject: [NU Sports] OSAMA
In-Reply-To: <1239795965-1304342774-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-1833542707-@bda544.bisx.prod.on.blackberry>
References: <20110502030802.GA7237@romaine.tssi.com>
 <002601cc0878$9bb43cc0$d31cb640$@com>
 <1239795965-1304342774-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-1833542707-@bda544.bisx.prod.on.blackberry>
Message-ID: <130E2C79-184A-4B72-9BC6-D86557705A8C@covisint.com>

Paul,

I am grateful that this terrorist will no longer be able to plot against the rest of the world.

I have to admit though that I'm conflicted over the spontaneous celebrations that went on last night.  It was uncomfortably similar to celebrations that we've seen in the middle east and Indonesia after some event that involved the loss of western lives. 

Jeff

Sent from my iPhone

On May 2, 2011, at 9:26 AM, "neonrye at aol.com" <neonrye at aol.com> wrote:

> How about a collective List cheer for our brave troops and Special Forces, General Petraeus, and our President and his Administration for a job well (and meticulously) done.  The world is a better place today.
> 
> Now if we could just rid it of Buckeyes....:-)
> 
> Seriously, we all have a lot to be thankful for this morning.
> 
> Paul Levinson (from NYC)
> Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry
> 
> 
The contents of this e-mail are intended for the named addressee only. It contains information that may be confidential. Unless you are the named addressee or an authorized designee, you may not copy or use it, or disclose it to anyone else. If you received it in error please notify us immediately and then destroy it.

> From: "Roy S. Lamberton" <rstetson at capps-assoc.com>
> Sender: nwu-sports-bounces at tssi.com
> Date: Sun, 1 May 2011 23:25:38 
> To: 'Mike Nolan'<nolan at romaine.tssi.com>; <nwu-sports at romaine.tssi.com>
> Subject: Re: [NU Sports] No Cats drafted?
> 
> They are not able to sign any new guys to free agent contracts, but....
> 
> rsl
> 
> ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
> Roy S. Lamberton - Senior Associate & Unix Guru.
> Computer Applications & Support Associates
> -------------------- Also ----------------------
> "Commissioner" Delaware American Legion Baseball
> Director Media Relations - Little League 
>  Senior League Softball World Series
> CTR2 USN (67-70) - CTRCS USNR (Ret) (64-67/70-95)
> Northwestern University - Speech 1974 - 
> Chi Phi: Pi 1974, KD 1968
> Publisher Emeritus: Purple Reign (Fox Sports)
> ================================================
> Opinions expressed above are mine alone and are not
> those of any organizations of which I am a member.
> ------------------------------------------------
> If you think that there might be some form of practical 'clean energy'
> that could appease the environmentalists--say, geothermal--you're 
> missing the point. The whole environmentalist idea of a minimal 
> 'footprint' is fundamentally anti-energy." --Alex Epstein
> ==========  Go Cats -  Beat 'em All  ===========
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: nwu-sports-bounces at tssi.com [mailto:nwu-sports-bounces at tssi.com] On Behalf Of Mike
> Nolan
> Sent: Sunday, May 01, 2011 11:08 PM
> To: nwu-sports at romaine.tssi.com
> Subject: [NU Sports] No Cats drafted?
> 
> No Cats were drafted, will any be able to sign free agent contract
> or does the labor mess preclude that?
> --
> Mike Nolan
> 
> PS.  If I haven't run out of typos, hopefully I've got the new system
> ready to go.
> 
> _______________________________________________
> nwu-sports site list
> nwu-sports at tssi.com
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> 
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From hakirsch at aol.com  Mon May  2 10:24:40 2011
From: hakirsch at aol.com (hakirsch at aol.com)
Date: Mon, 2 May 2011 15:24:40 +0000
Subject: [NU Sports] OSAMA
In-Reply-To: <130E2C79-184A-4B72-9BC6-D86557705A8C@covisint.com>
References: <20110502030802.GA7237@romaine.tssi.com><002601cc0878$9bb43cc0$d31cb640$@com><1239795965-1304342774-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-1833542707-@bda544.bisx.prod.on.blackberry><130E2C79-184A-4B72-9BC6-D86557705A8C@covisint.com>
Message-ID: <1196527054-1304349881-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-1474541139-@bda2184.bisx.prod.on.blackberry>

Well I'm not conflicted.  One has to do with celebrating the deaths of scores of innocent civilians while the other relates to a murderer of thousands

Harry
Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry

-----Original Message-----
From: "Beamsley, Jeff" <Jeff.Beamsley at covisint.com>
Sender: nwu-sports-bounces at tssi.com
Date: Mon, 2 May 2011 11:07:29 
To: <neonrye at aol.com>
Cc: <nwu-sports at romaine.tssi.com>; Mike Nolan<nolan at romaine.tssi.com>; <nwu-sports-bounces at tssi.com>
Subject: Re: [NU Sports] OSAMA

Paul,

I am grateful that this terrorist will no longer be able to plot against the rest of the world.

I have to admit though that I'm conflicted over the spontaneous celebrations that went on last night.  It was uncomfortably similar to celebrations that we've seen in the middle east and Indonesia after some event that involved the loss of western lives. 

Jeff

Sent from my iPhone

On May 2, 2011, at 9:26 AM, "neonrye at aol.com" <neonrye at aol.com> wrote:

> How about a collective List cheer for our brave troops and Special Forces, General Petraeus, and our President and his Administration for a job well (and meticulously) done.  The world is a better place today.
> 
> Now if we could just rid it of Buckeyes....:-)
> 
> Seriously, we all have a lot to be thankful for this morning.
> 
> Paul Levinson (from NYC)
> Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry
> 
> 
The contents of this e-mail are intended for the named addressee only. It contains information that may be confidential. Unless you are the named addressee or an authorized designee, you may not copy or use it, or disclose it to anyone else. If you received it in error please notify us immediately and then destroy it.

> From: "Roy S. Lamberton" <rstetson at capps-assoc.com>
> Sender: nwu-sports-bounces at tssi.com
> Date: Sun, 1 May 2011 23:25:38 
> To: 'Mike Nolan'<nolan at romaine.tssi.com>; <nwu-sports at romaine.tssi.com>
> Subject: Re: [NU Sports] No Cats drafted?
> 
> They are not able to sign any new guys to free agent contracts, but....
> 
> rsl
> 
> ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
> Roy S. Lamberton - Senior Associate & Unix Guru.
> Computer Applications & Support Associates
> -------------------- Also ----------------------
> "Commissioner" Delaware American Legion Baseball
> Director Media Relations - Little League 
>  Senior League Softball World Series
> CTR2 USN (67-70) - CTRCS USNR (Ret) (64-67/70-95)
> Northwestern University - Speech 1974 - 
> Chi Phi: Pi 1974, KD 1968
> Publisher Emeritus: Purple Reign (Fox Sports)
> ================================================
> Opinions expressed above are mine alone and are not
> those of any organizations of which I am a member.
> ------------------------------------------------
> If you think that there might be some form of practical 'clean energy'
> that could appease the environmentalists--say, geothermal--you're 
> missing the point. The whole environmentalist idea of a minimal 
> 'footprint' is fundamentally anti-energy." --Alex Epstein
> ==========  Go Cats -  Beat 'em All  ===========
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: nwu-sports-bounces at tssi.com [mailto:nwu-sports-bounces at tssi.com] On Behalf Of Mike
> Nolan
> Sent: Sunday, May 01, 2011 11:08 PM
> To: nwu-sports at romaine.tssi.com
> Subject: [NU Sports] No Cats drafted?
> 
> No Cats were drafted, will any be able to sign free agent contract
> or does the labor mess preclude that?
> --
> Mike Nolan
> 
> PS.  If I haven't run out of typos, hopefully I've got the new system
> ready to go.
> 
> _______________________________________________
> nwu-sports site list
> nwu-sports at tssi.com
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> 
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From rstetson at capps-assoc.com  Mon May  2 11:02:15 2011
From: rstetson at capps-assoc.com (Roy S. Lamberton)
Date: Mon, 2 May 2011 12:02:15 -0400
Subject: [NU Sports] OSAMA
In-Reply-To: <1196527054-1304349881-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-1474541139-@bda2184.bisx.prod.on.blackberry>
References: <20110502030802.GA7237@romaine.tssi.com><002601cc0878$9bb43cc0$d31cb640$@com><1239795965-1304342774-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-1833542707-@bda544.bisx.prod.on.blackberry><130E2C79-184A-4B72-9BC6-D86557705A8C@covisint.com>
 <1196527054-1304349881-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-1474541139-@bda2184.bisx.prod.on.blackberry>
Message-ID: <002f01cc08e2$51298b50$f37ca1f0$@com>

I'm not at all sad that OBL met his end at the hand of our Navy Seals (even if they were
the black helicopter guys).

I'm sorry that they didn't put his body in a clear plastic corpse and parade him around
the US, and maybe the world for all to see.

I'm sure he died thinking he was heading to Paradise. The Onion had a great issue right
after 9-11 that explores an alternative ending to the tale.

And I can't believe that the info to came out during Trump's show AND that he came on at
11 taking full credit for all this.

There's some guy in Gitmo that got the info, and another guy at the CIA who realized the
intel was dead on, and the Seals who planned and pulled off the attack who should get all
the credit.

rsl

++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
Roy S. Lamberton - Senior Associate & Unix Guru.
Computer Applications & Support Associates
-------------------- Also ----------------------
"Commissioner" Delaware American Legion Baseball
Director Media Relations - Little League 
  Senior League Softball World Series
CTR2 USN (67-70) - CTRCS USNR (Ret) (64-67/70-95)
Northwestern University - Speech 1974 - 
Chi Phi: Pi 1974, KD 1968
Publisher Emeritus: Purple Reign (Fox Sports)
================================================
Opinions expressed above are mine alone and are not
those of any organizations of which I am a member.
------------------------------------------------
If you think that there might be some form of practical 'clean energy'
that could appease the environmentalists--say, geothermal--you're 
missing the point. The whole environmentalist idea of a minimal 
'footprint' is fundamentally anti-energy." --Alex Epstein
==========  Go Cats -? Beat 'em All  ===========



-----Original Message-----
From: nwu-sports-bounces at tssi.com [mailto:nwu-sports-bounces at tssi.com] On Behalf Of
hakirsch at aol.com
Sent: Monday, May 02, 2011 11:25 AM
To: Beamsley, Jeff; nwu-sports-bounces at tssi.com; neonrye at aol.com
Cc: nwu-sports at romaine.tssi.com; Mike Nolan
Subject: Re: [NU Sports] OSAMA

Well I'm not conflicted.  One has to do with celebrating the deaths of scores of innocent
civilians while the other relates to a murderer of thousands

Harry
Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry

-----Original Message-----
From: "Beamsley, Jeff" <Jeff.Beamsley at covisint.com>
Sender: nwu-sports-bounces at tssi.com
Date: Mon, 2 May 2011 11:07:29 
To: <neonrye at aol.com>
Cc: <nwu-sports at romaine.tssi.com>; Mike Nolan<nolan at romaine.tssi.com>;
<nwu-sports-bounces at tssi.com>
Subject: Re: [NU Sports] OSAMA

Paul,

I am grateful that this terrorist will no longer be able to plot against the rest of the
world.

I have to admit though that I'm conflicted over the spontaneous celebrations that went on
last night.  It was uncomfortably similar to celebrations that we've seen in the middle
east and Indonesia after some event that involved the loss of western lives. 


Jeff

Sent from my iPhone

On May 2, 2011, at 9:26 AM, "neonrye at aol.com" <neonrye at aol.com> wrote:

> How about a collective List cheer for our brave troops and Special Forces, General
Petraeus, and our President and his Administration for a job well (and meticulously) done.
The world is a better place today.
> 
> Now if we could just rid it of Buckeyes....:-)
> 
> Seriously, we all have a lot to be thankful for this morning.
> 
> Paul Levinson (from NYC)
> Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry
> 
> 
The contents of this e-mail are intended for the named addressee only. It contains
information that may be confidential. Unless you are the named addressee or an authorized
designee, you may not copy or use it, or disclose it to anyone else. If you received it in
error please notify us immediately and then destroy it.

> From: "Roy S. Lamberton" <rstetson at capps-assoc.com>
> Sender: nwu-sports-bounces at tssi.com
> Date: Sun, 1 May 2011 23:25:38 
> To: 'Mike Nolan'<nolan at romaine.tssi.com>; <nwu-sports at romaine.tssi.com>
> Subject: Re: [NU Sports] No Cats drafted?
> 
> They are not able to sign any new guys to free agent contracts, but....
> 
> rsl
> 
> ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
> Roy S. Lamberton - Senior Associate & Unix Guru.
> Computer Applications & Support Associates
> -------------------- Also ----------------------
> "Commissioner" Delaware American Legion Baseball
> Director Media Relations - Little League 
>  Senior League Softball World Series
> CTR2 USN (67-70) - CTRCS USNR (Ret) (64-67/70-95)
> Northwestern University - Speech 1974 - 
> Chi Phi: Pi 1974, KD 1968
> Publisher Emeritus: Purple Reign (Fox Sports)
> ================================================
> Opinions expressed above are mine alone and are not
> those of any organizations of which I am a member.
> ------------------------------------------------
> If you think that there might be some form of practical 'clean energy'
> that could appease the environmentalists--say, geothermal--you're 
> missing the point. The whole environmentalist idea of a minimal 
> 'footprint' is fundamentally anti-energy." --Alex Epstein
> ==========  Go Cats -  Beat 'em All  ===========
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: nwu-sports-bounces at tssi.com [mailto:nwu-sports-bounces at tssi.com] On Behalf Of Mike
> Nolan
> Sent: Sunday, May 01, 2011 11:08 PM
> To: nwu-sports at romaine.tssi.com
> Subject: [NU Sports] No Cats drafted?
> 
> No Cats were drafted, will any be able to sign free agent contract
> or does the labor mess preclude that?
> --
> Mike Nolan
> 
> PS.  If I haven't run out of typos, hopefully I've got the new system
> ready to go.
> 
> _______________________________________________
> nwu-sports site list
> nwu-sports at tssi.com
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> 
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From rstetson at capps-assoc.com  Mon May  2 11:14:21 2011
From: rstetson at capps-assoc.com (Roy S. Lamberton)
Date: Mon, 2 May 2011 12:14:21 -0400
Subject: [NU Sports] No Cats drafted?
In-Reply-To: <20110502030802.GA7237@romaine.tssi.com>
References: <20110502030802.GA7237@romaine.tssi.com>
Message-ID: <003301cc08e4$0009f500$001ddf00$@com>

>From ESPN on the lifting of the stay
http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=6464834

"Absent a stay, there will be trades, player signings, players cut under existing
contracts, and a host of other changes in employment relationships" between hundreds of
players and the 32 NFL teams."

Apparently the court lifted the stay which put the lockout back in effect until a court
could rule.

Don't know why the story adds politics to the court efforts - they made sure to say that 2
of the judges were republican appointees and listed the democrat judges also - the quotes
from the republicans sounded reasonable.

And I love Ray Lewis' comment about having time off.

rsl



++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
Roy S. Lamberton - Senior Associate & Unix Guru.
Computer Applications & Support Associates
-------------------- Also ----------------------
"Commissioner" Delaware American Legion Baseball
Director Media Relations - Little League 
  Senior League Softball World Series
CTR2 USN (67-70) - CTRCS USNR (Ret) (64-67/70-95)
Northwestern University - Speech 1974 - 
Chi Phi: Pi 1974, KD 1968
Publisher Emeritus: Purple Reign (Fox Sports)
================================================
Opinions expressed above are mine alone and are not
those of any organizations of which I am a member.
------------------------------------------------
If you think that there might be some form of practical 'clean energy'
that could appease the environmentalists--say, geothermal--you're 
missing the point. The whole environmentalist idea of a minimal 
'footprint' is fundamentally anti-energy." --Alex Epstein
==========  Go Cats -? Beat 'em All  ===========



-----Original Message-----
From: nwu-sports-bounces at tssi.com [mailto:nwu-sports-bounces at tssi.com] On Behalf Of Mike
Nolan
Sent: Sunday, May 01, 2011 11:08 PM
To: nwu-sports at romaine.tssi.com
Subject: [NU Sports] No Cats drafted?

No Cats were drafted, will any be able to sign free agent contract
or does the labor mess preclude that?
--
Mike Nolan

PS.  If I haven't run out of typos, hopefully I've got the new system
ready to go.

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From tbng at comcast.net  Mon May  2 11:21:18 2011
From: tbng at comcast.net (Dennis W. Brandt)
Date: Mon, 2 May 2011 12:21:18 -0400
Subject: [NU Sports] OSAMA
References: <20110502030802.GA7237@romaine.tssi.com>
 <002601cc0878$9bb43cc0$d31cb640$@com>
 <1239795965-1304342774-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-1833542707-@bda544.bisx.prod.on.blackberry>
 <130E2C79-184A-4B72-9BC6-D86557705A8C@covisint.com>
Message-ID: <F12D334662A44F69911B3B45D6F40FB5@dennismachine>

> I have to admit though that I'm conflicted over the spontaneous 
> celebrations that went on last night.  It was uncomfortably similar to 
> celebrations that we've seen in the middle east and Indonesia after some 
> event that involved the loss of western lives.

I am not conflicted.  May the flames of Hell be real because I want to 
envision the miserable M*******R suffering for eternity.  The only regret I 
have is that the Seal who got him was such a great shot that the S.O.B. died 
quickly, and I would never have granted the evil bastard the respect of a 
religious burial.


From tbng at comcast.net  Mon May  2 11:21:18 2011
From: tbng at comcast.net (Dennis W. Brandt)
Date: Mon, 2 May 2011 12:21:18 -0400
Subject: [NU Sports] OSAMA
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> I have to admit though that I'm conflicted over the spontaneous 
> celebrations that went on last night.  It was uncomfortably similar to 
> celebrations that we've seen in the middle east and Indonesia after some 
> event that involved the loss of western lives.

I am not conflicted.  May the flames of Hell be real because I want to 
envision the miserable M*******R suffering for eternity.  The only regret I 
have is that the Seal who got him was such a great shot that the S.O.B. died 
quickly, and I would never have granted the evil bastard the respect of a 
religious burial.


From Willie.Weinbaum at espn.com  Mon May  2 11:24:53 2011
From: Willie.Weinbaum at espn.com (Weinbaum, Willie)
Date: Mon, 2 May 2011 12:24:53 -0400
Subject: [NU Sports] OSAMA
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Perhaps this remark is apt:

"We do not celebrate the death of our enemies."

 - Yitzhak Rabin

-----Original Message-----
From: nwu-sports-bounces at tssi.com [mailto:nwu-sports-bounces at tssi.com] On Behalf Of hakirsch at aol.com
Sent: Monday, May 02, 2011 11:25 AM
To: Beamsley, Jeff; nwu-sports-bounces at tssi.com; neonrye at aol.com
Cc: nwu-sports at romaine.tssi.com; Mike Nolan
Subject: Re: [NU Sports] OSAMA

Well I'm not conflicted.  One has to do with celebrating the deaths of scores of innocent civilians while the other relates to a murderer of thousands

Harry
Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry

-----Original Message-----
From: "Beamsley, Jeff" <Jeff.Beamsley at covisint.com>
Sender: nwu-sports-bounces at tssi.com
Date: Mon, 2 May 2011 11:07:29
To: <neonrye at aol.com>
Cc: <nwu-sports at romaine.tssi.com>; Mike Nolan<nolan at romaine.tssi.com>; <nwu-sports-bounces at tssi.com>
Subject: Re: [NU Sports] OSAMA

Paul,

I am grateful that this terrorist will no longer be able to plot against the rest of the world.

I have to admit though that I'm conflicted over the spontaneous celebrations that went on last night.  It was uncomfortably similar to celebrations that we've seen in the middle east and Indonesia after some event that involved the loss of western lives.

Jeff

Sent from my iPhone

On May 2, 2011, at 9:26 AM, "neonrye at aol.com" <neonrye at aol.com> wrote:

> How about a collective List cheer for our brave troops and Special Forces, General Petraeus, and our President and his Administration for a job well (and meticulously) done.  The world is a better place today.
>
> Now if we could just rid it of Buckeyes....:-)
>
> Seriously, we all have a lot to be thankful for this morning.
>
> Paul Levinson (from NYC)
> Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry
>
>
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> From: "Roy S. Lamberton" <rstetson at capps-assoc.com>
> Sender: nwu-sports-bounces at tssi.com
> Date: Sun, 1 May 2011 23:25:38
> To: 'Mike Nolan'<nolan at romaine.tssi.com>; 
> <nwu-sports at romaine.tssi.com>
> Subject: Re: [NU Sports] No Cats drafted?
>
> They are not able to sign any new guys to free agent contracts, but....
>
> rsl
>
> ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
> Roy S. Lamberton - Senior Associate & Unix Guru.
> Computer Applications & Support Associates
> -------------------- Also ---------------------- "Commissioner" 
> Delaware American Legion Baseball Director Media Relations - Little 
> League  Senior League Softball World Series
> CTR2 USN (67-70) - CTRCS USNR (Ret) (64-67/70-95) Northwestern 
> University - Speech 1974 - Chi Phi: Pi 1974, KD 1968 Publisher 
> Emeritus: Purple Reign (Fox Sports) 
> ================================================
> Opinions expressed above are mine alone and are not those of any 
> organizations of which I am a member.
> ------------------------------------------------
> If you think that there might be some form of practical 'clean energy'
> that could appease the environmentalists--say, geothermal--you're 
> missing the point. The whole environmentalist idea of a minimal 
> 'footprint' is fundamentally anti-energy." --Alex Epstein ==========  
> Go Cats -  Beat 'em All  ===========
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: nwu-sports-bounces at tssi.com [mailto:nwu-sports-bounces at tssi.com] 
> On Behalf Of Mike Nolan
> Sent: Sunday, May 01, 2011 11:08 PM
> To: nwu-sports at romaine.tssi.com
> Subject: [NU Sports] No Cats drafted?
>
> No Cats were drafted, will any be able to sign free agent contract or 
> does the labor mess preclude that?
> --
> Mike Nolan
>
> PS.  If I haven't run out of typos, hopefully I've got the new system 
> ready to go.
>
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From Jeff.Beamsley at covisint.com  Mon May  2 11:06:27 2011
From: Jeff.Beamsley at covisint.com (Beamsley, Jeff)
Date: Mon, 2 May 2011 12:06:27 -0400
Subject: [NU Sports] OSAMA
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Well I figured I would likely be in the minority, but it wouldn't be the first time. 

To be clear, I'm not questioning the action or the methods, only the nature of the celebrations of the outcome. 

Just honestly curious about where our boundaries are as a "westernized" law abiding peaceful society. 

Jeff 

Sent from my iPhone

On May 2, 2011, at 11:24 AM, "hakirsch at aol.com" <hakirsch at aol.com> wrote:

> Well I'm not conflicted.  One has to do with celebrating the deaths of scores of innocent civilians while the other relates to a murderer of thousands
> 
> Harry
> Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: "Beamsley, Jeff" <Jeff.Beamsley at covisint.com>
> Sender: nwu-sports-bounces at tssi.com
> Date: Mon, 2 May 2011 11:07:29 
> To: <neonrye at aol.com>
> Cc: <nwu-sports at romaine.tssi.com>; Mike Nolan<nolan at romaine.tssi.com>; <nwu-sports-bounces at tssi.com>
> Subject: Re: [NU Sports] OSAMA
> 
> Paul,
> 
> I am grateful that this terrorist will no longer be able to plot against the rest of the world.
> 
> I have to admit though that I'm conflicted over the spontaneous celebrations that went on last night.  It was uncomfortably similar to celebrations that we've seen in the middle east and Indonesia after some event that involved the loss of western lives. 
> 
> Jeff
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
> On May 2, 2011, at 9:26 AM, "neonrye at aol.com" <neonrye at aol.com> wrote:
> 
>> How about a collective List cheer for our brave troops and Special Forces, General Petraeus, and our President and his Administration for a job well (and meticulously) done.  The world is a better place today.
>> 
>> Now if we could just rid it of Buckeyes....:-)
>> 
>> Seriously, we all have a lot to be thankful for this morning.
>> 
>> Paul Levinson (from NYC)
>> Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry
>> 
>> 
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> 
>> From: "Roy S. Lamberton" <rstetson at capps-assoc.com>
>> Sender: nwu-sports-bounces at tssi.com
>> Date: Sun, 1 May 2011 23:25:38 
>> To: 'Mike Nolan'<nolan at romaine.tssi.com>; <nwu-sports at romaine.tssi.com>
>> Subject: Re: [NU Sports] No Cats drafted?
>> 
>> They are not able to sign any new guys to free agent contracts, but....
>> 
>> rsl
>> 
>> ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
>> Roy S. Lamberton - Senior Associate & Unix Guru.
>> Computer Applications & Support Associates
>> -------------------- Also ----------------------
>> "Commissioner" Delaware American Legion Baseball
>> Director Media Relations - Little League 
>> Senior League Softball World Series
>> CTR2 USN (67-70) - CTRCS USNR (Ret) (64-67/70-95)
>> Northwestern University - Speech 1974 - 
>> Chi Phi: Pi 1974, KD 1968
>> Publisher Emeritus: Purple Reign (Fox Sports)
>> ================================================
>> Opinions expressed above are mine alone and are not
>> those of any organizations of which I am a member.
>> ------------------------------------------------
>> If you think that there might be some form of practical 'clean energy'
>> that could appease the environmentalists--say, geothermal--you're 
>> missing the point. The whole environmentalist idea of a minimal 
>> 'footprint' is fundamentally anti-energy." --Alex Epstein
>> ==========  Go Cats -  Beat 'em All  ===========
>> 
>> 
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: nwu-sports-bounces at tssi.com [mailto:nwu-sports-bounces at tssi.com] On Behalf Of Mike
>> Nolan
>> Sent: Sunday, May 01, 2011 11:08 PM
>> To: nwu-sports at romaine.tssi.com
>> Subject: [NU Sports] No Cats drafted?
>> 
>> No Cats were drafted, will any be able to sign free agent contract
>> or does the labor mess preclude that?
>> --
>> Mike Nolan
>> 
>> PS.  If I haven't run out of typos, hopefully I've got the new system
>> ready to go.
>> 
>> _______________________________________________
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From tbng at comcast.net  Mon May  2 11:45:48 2011
From: tbng at comcast.net (Dennis W. Brandt)
Date: Mon, 2 May 2011 12:45:48 -0400
Subject: [NU Sports] OSAMA
References: <20110502030802.GA7237@romaine.tssi.com><002601cc0878$9bb43cc0$d31cb640$@com><1239795965-1304342774-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-1833542707-@bda544.bisx.prod.on.blackberry><130E2C79-184A-4B72-9BC6-D86557705A8C@covisint.com>
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<I'm sorry that they didn't put his body in a clear plastic corpse and 
parade him around
<the US, and maybe the world for all to see.

What the Italians did to Mussolini wouldn't have been a bad idea either. 
Or, as a relative of mine suggested, maybe they should have taken him alive 
and dropped him into a New York City fire station.  He wouldn't have needed 
a "kick-me" sign on his back. 


From Jeff.Beamsley at covisint.com  Mon May  2 11:47:04 2011
From: Jeff.Beamsley at covisint.com (Beamsley, Jeff)
Date: Mon, 2 May 2011 12:47:04 -0400
Subject: [NU Sports] OSAMA
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Why not just drag his body through the streets of Manhattan like a mogadishu warlord?


Sent from my iPhone

On May 2, 2011, at 12:01 PM, "Roy S. Lamberton" <rstetson at capps-assoc.com> wrote:

> I'm not at all sad that OBL met his end at the hand of our Navy Seals (even if they were
> the black helicopter guys).
> 
> I'm sorry that they didn't put his body in a clear plastic corpse and parade him around
> the US, and maybe the world for all to see.
> 
> I'm sure he died thinking he was heading to Paradise. The Onion had a great issue right
> after 9-11 that explores an alternative ending to the tale.
> 
> And I can't believe that the info to came out during Trump's show AND that he came on at
> 11 taking full credit for all this.
> 
> There's some guy in Gitmo that got the info, and another guy at the CIA who realized the
> intel was dead on, and the Seals who planned and pulled off the attack who should get all
> the credit.
> 
> rsl
> 
> ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
> Roy S. Lamberton - Senior Associate & Unix Guru.
> Computer Applications & Support Associates
> -------------------- Also ----------------------
> "Commissioner" Delaware American Legion Baseball
> Director Media Relations - Little League 
>  Senior League Softball World Series
> CTR2 USN (67-70) - CTRCS USNR (Ret) (64-67/70-95)
> Northwestern University - Speech 1974 - 
> Chi Phi: Pi 1974, KD 1968
> Publisher Emeritus: Purple Reign (Fox Sports)
> ================================================
> Opinions expressed above are mine alone and are not
> those of any organizations of which I am a member.
> ------------------------------------------------
> If you think that there might be some form of practical 'clean energy'
> that could appease the environmentalists--say, geothermal--you're 
> missing the point. The whole environmentalist idea of a minimal 
> 'footprint' is fundamentally anti-energy." --Alex Epstein
> ==========  Go Cats -  Beat 'em All  ===========
> 
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: nwu-sports-bounces at tssi.com [mailto:nwu-sports-bounces at tssi.com] On Behalf Of
> hakirsch at aol.com
> Sent: Monday, May 02, 2011 11:25 AM
> To: Beamsley, Jeff; nwu-sports-bounces at tssi.com; neonrye at aol.com
> Cc: nwu-sports at romaine.tssi.com; Mike Nolan
> Subject: Re: [NU Sports] OSAMA
> 
> Well I'm not conflicted.  One has to do with celebrating the deaths of scores of innocent
> civilians while the other relates to a murderer of thousands
> 
> Harry
> Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: "Beamsley, Jeff" <Jeff.Beamsley at covisint.com>
> Sender: nwu-sports-bounces at tssi.com
> Date: Mon, 2 May 2011 11:07:29 
> To: <neonrye at aol.com>
> Cc: <nwu-sports at romaine.tssi.com>; Mike Nolan<nolan at romaine.tssi.com>;
> <nwu-sports-bounces at tssi.com>
> Subject: Re: [NU Sports] OSAMA
> 
> Paul,
> 
> I am grateful that this terrorist will no longer be able to plot against the rest of the
> world.
> 
> I have to admit though that I'm conflicted over the spontaneous celebrations that went on
> last night.  It was uncomfortably similar to celebrations that we've seen in the middle
> east and Indonesia after some event that involved the loss of western lives. 
> 
> 
> Jeff
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
> On May 2, 2011, at 9:26 AM, "neonrye at aol.com" <neonrye at aol.com> wrote:
> 
>> How about a collective List cheer for our brave troops and Special Forces, General
> Petraeus, and our President and his Administration for a job well (and meticulously) done.
> The world is a better place today.
>> 
>> Now if we could just rid it of Buckeyes....:-)
>> 
>> Seriously, we all have a lot to be thankful for this morning.
>> 
>> Paul Levinson (from NYC)
>> Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry
>> 
>> 
> The contents of this e-mail are intended for the named addressee only. It contains
> information that may be confidential. Unless you are the named addressee or an authorized
> designee, you may not copy or use it, or disclose it to anyone else. If you received it in
> error please notify us immediately and then destroy it.
> 
>> From: "Roy S. Lamberton" <rstetson at capps-assoc.com>
>> Sender: nwu-sports-bounces at tssi.com
>> Date: Sun, 1 May 2011 23:25:38 
>> To: 'Mike Nolan'<nolan at romaine.tssi.com>; <nwu-sports at romaine.tssi.com>
>> Subject: Re: [NU Sports] No Cats drafted?
>> 
>> They are not able to sign any new guys to free agent contracts, but....
>> 
>> rsl
>> 
>> ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
>> Roy S. Lamberton - Senior Associate & Unix Guru.
>> Computer Applications & Support Associates
>> -------------------- Also ----------------------
>> "Commissioner" Delaware American Legion Baseball
>> Director Media Relations - Little League 
>> Senior League Softball World Series
>> CTR2 USN (67-70) - CTRCS USNR (Ret) (64-67/70-95)
>> Northwestern University - Speech 1974 - 
>> Chi Phi: Pi 1974, KD 1968
>> Publisher Emeritus: Purple Reign (Fox Sports)
>> ================================================
>> Opinions expressed above are mine alone and are not
>> those of any organizations of which I am a member.
>> ------------------------------------------------
>> If you think that there might be some form of practical 'clean energy'
>> that could appease the environmentalists--say, geothermal--you're 
>> missing the point. The whole environmentalist idea of a minimal 
>> 'footprint' is fundamentally anti-energy." --Alex Epstein
>> ==========  Go Cats -  Beat 'em All  ===========
>> 
>> 
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: nwu-sports-bounces at tssi.com [mailto:nwu-sports-bounces at tssi.com] On Behalf Of Mike
>> Nolan
>> Sent: Sunday, May 01, 2011 11:08 PM
>> To: nwu-sports at romaine.tssi.com
>> Subject: [NU Sports] No Cats drafted?
>> 
>> No Cats were drafted, will any be able to sign free agent contract
>> or does the labor mess preclude that?
>> --
>> Mike Nolan
>> 
>> PS.  If I haven't run out of typos, hopefully I've got the new system
>> ready to go.
>> 
>> _______________________________________________
>> nwu-sports site list
>> nwu-sports at tssi.com
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From Willie.Weinbaum at espn.com  Mon May  2 11:48:32 2011
From: Willie.Weinbaum at espn.com (Weinbaum, Willie)
Date: Mon, 2 May 2011 12:48:32 -0400
Subject: [NU Sports] OSAMA
In-Reply-To: <7CD7E65A15014B6981811A885C687F68@dennismachine>
References: <20110502030802.GA7237@romaine.tssi.com><002601cc0878$9bb43cc0$d31cb640$@com><1239795965-1304342774-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-1833542707-@bda544.bisx.prod.on.blackberry><130E2C79-184A-4B72-9BC6-D86557705A8C@covisint.com>
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A friend sent me the following quote:

"I've never wished a man dead but I have read some obituaries with great pleasure."

-Mark Twain

For whatever it is worth, my feelings are, quite simply, that I prefer to celebrate peace.  And the elimination of Bin Laden doesn't mean we have peace all of a sudden.  I don't mourn him, but I am not clicking my heels.

-----Original Message-----
From: nwu-sports-bounces at tssi.com [mailto:nwu-sports-bounces at tssi.com] On Behalf Of Dennis W. Brandt
Sent: Monday, May 02, 2011 12:46 PM
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Cc: nwu-sports at romaine.tssi.com; 'Mike Nolan'
Subject: Re: [NU Sports] OSAMA

<I'm sorry that they didn't put his body in a clear plastic corpse and
parade him around
<the US, and maybe the world for all to see.

What the Italians did to Mussolini wouldn't have been a bad idea either.
Or, as a relative of mine suggested, maybe they should have taken him alive
and dropped him into a New York City fire station.  He wouldn't have needed
a "kick-me" sign on his back.

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From nolan at romaine.tssi.com  Mon May  2 12:16:28 2011
From: nolan at romaine.tssi.com (Mike Nolan)
Date: Mon, 2 May 2011 12:16:28 -0500
Subject: [NU Sports] OSAMA
Message-ID: <20110502171628.GA11929@romaine.tssi.com>

I think we're getting rather far afield from Northwestern sports here.
--
Mike Nolan, List Manager


From johnl at mac.com  Mon May  2 12:58:23 2011
From: johnl at mac.com (Labbe John)
Date: Mon, 02 May 2011 12:58:23 -0500
Subject: [NU Sports] OSAMA
In-Reply-To: <15D3139E-910D-4186-ADDE-DBAFC02D6C5D@covisint.com>
References: <20110502030802.GA7237@romaine.tssi.com>
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This doesn't really seem to me to be that thorny of an issue, but if  
it helps you rationalize it, look at it this way:  The celebrations  
would have been the same had we killed or captured Bin Laden.

Even if you oppose the death penalty, when a murderer is killed  
because he refuses to peacefully surrender, there's no reason society  
can't rejoice in the outcome.  Had we dragged his body through the  
streets, tortured him, or otherwise given him what he deserved, then  
you could question it.  But nothing like that happen.  Quite the  
opposite, actually.  He was given a proper burial within 24 hours per  
his religious custom.



On May 2, 2011, at 11:06 AM, Beamsley, Jeff wrote:

> Well I figured I would likely be in the minority, but it wouldn't be  
> the first time.
>
> To be clear, I'm not questioning the action or the methods, only the  
> nature of the celebrations of the outcome.
>
> Just honestly curious about where our boundaries are as a  
> "westernized" law abiding peaceful society.
>
> Jeff
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On May 2, 2011, at 11:24 AM, "hakirsch at aol.com" <hakirsch at aol.com>  
> wrote:
>
>> Well I'm not conflicted.  One has to do with celebrating the deaths  
>> of scores of innocent civilians while the other relates to a  
>> murderer of thousands
>>
>> Harry
>> Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: "Beamsley, Jeff" <Jeff.Beamsley at covisint.com>
>> Sender: nwu-sports-bounces at tssi.com
>> Date: Mon, 2 May 2011 11:07:29
>> To: <neonrye at aol.com>
>> Cc: <nwu-sports at romaine.tssi.com>; Mike  
>> Nolan<nolan at romaine.tssi.com>; <nwu-sports-bounces at tssi.com>
>> Subject: Re: [NU Sports] OSAMA
>>
>> Paul,
>>
>> I am grateful that this terrorist will no longer be able to plot  
>> against the rest of the world.
>>
>> I have to admit though that I'm conflicted over the spontaneous  
>> celebrations that went on last night.  It was uncomfortably similar  
>> to celebrations that we've seen in the middle east and Indonesia  
>> after some event that involved the loss of western lives.
>>
>> Jeff
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>> On May 2, 2011, at 9:26 AM, "neonrye at aol.com" <neonrye at aol.com>  
>> wrote:
>>
>>> How about a collective List cheer for our brave troops and Special  
>>> Forces, General Petraeus, and our President and his Administration  
>>> for a job well (and meticulously) done.  The world is a better  
>>> place today.
>>>
>>> Now if we could just rid it of Buckeyes....:-)
>>>
>>> Seriously, we all have a lot to be thankful for this morning.
>>>
>>> Paul Levinson (from NYC)
>>> Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry
>>>
>>>
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>>> From: "Roy S. Lamberton" <rstetson at capps-assoc.com>
>>> Sender: nwu-sports-bounces at tssi.com
>>> Date: Sun, 1 May 2011 23:25:38
>>> To: 'Mike Nolan'<nolan at romaine.tssi.com>; <nwu-sports at romaine.tssi.com 
>>> >
>>> Subject: Re: [NU Sports] No Cats drafted?
>>>
>>> They are not able to sign any new guys to free agent contracts,  
>>> but....
>>>
>>> rsl
>>>
>>> ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
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>>> ] On Behalf Of Mike
>>> Nolan
>>> Sent: Sunday, May 01, 2011 11:08 PM
>>> To: nwu-sports at romaine.tssi.com
>>> Subject: [NU Sports] No Cats drafted?
>>>
>>> No Cats were drafted, will any be able to sign free agent contract
>>> or does the labor mess preclude that?
>>> --
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>>>
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>>> system
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From artmiller1 at gmail.com  Mon May  2 14:50:08 2011
From: artmiller1 at gmail.com (Arthur Miller)
Date: Mon, 2 May 2011 14:50:08 -0500
Subject: [NU Sports] Women's Tennis FTW
Message-ID: <BANLkTi=vonx9X_YAhY_EJ8TDKQKJE=nbjQ@mail.gmail.com>

How about the women's tennis team?   They captured their 13th straight Big
Ten tournament title by knocking off top seed Michigan yesterday.

Just ponder that for a moment...I know the Big Ten isn't known as being
particularly strong top to bottom in women's tennis, but that's an unreal
streak of success.

From eschoeman at sbcglobal.net  Mon May  2 16:26:46 2011
From: eschoeman at sbcglobal.net (Evans Schoeman)
Date: Mon, 2 May 2011 14:26:46 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [NU Sports] Women's Tennis FTW
In-Reply-To: <BANLkTi=vonx9X_YAhY_EJ8TDKQKJE=nbjQ@mail.gmail.com>
References: <BANLkTi=vonx9X_YAhY_EJ8TDKQKJE=nbjQ@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <554364.38206.qm@web83908.mail.sp1.yahoo.com>

Great achievement by the team, who lost to Michigan in a dual match 6-1 just a 
week before.

Coach Claire Pollard has been at NU for exactly 13 years...not a bad record, I'd 
say.

This years' team struggled early, as they're?very young team:? one senior and 
one junior in the lineup.? The future looks bright.




________________________________
From: Arthur Miller <artmiller1 at gmail.com>
To: nwu-sports at romaine.tssi.com
Sent: Mon, May 2, 2011 2:50:08 PM
Subject: [NU Sports] Women's Tennis FTW

How about the women's tennis team?? They captured their 13th straight Big
Ten tournament title by knocking off top seed Michigan yesterday.

Just ponder that for a moment...I know the Big Ten isn't known as being
particularly strong top to bottom in women's tennis, but that's an unreal
streak of success.
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From MHRJGScott at aol.com  Tue May  3 02:41:31 2011
From: MHRJGScott at aol.com (MHRJGScott at aol.com)
Date: Tue, 3 May 2011 03:41:31 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: [NU Sports] OSAMA
Message-ID: <95dc.7a51c6cd.3af10bab@aol.com>

think we're getting rather far afield from Northwestern sports  here.
--
Mike Nolan, List Manager

Let's see, did any NU Navy ROTC play NU sports? Become SEALS ? Anyway Kudos 
 to Obama for getting Osama, I hope his Chicago connections show that he 
did it  for the right reasons, an old Chinese/Chicago proverb ?_He  who seeks 
vengeance must dig two graves: one for his enemy and one for  himself_ 
(http://thinkexist.com/quotation/he_who_seeks_vengeance_must_dig_two_graves-one/15
9444.html) ?

From MHRJGScott at aol.com  Tue May  3 02:42:32 2011
From: MHRJGScott at aol.com (MHRJGScott at aol.com)
Date: Tue, 3 May 2011 03:42:32 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: [NU Sports] OSAMA
Message-ID: <9627.19751608.3af10be8@aol.com>

think we're getting rather far afield from Northwestern sports  here.
--
Mike Nolan, List Manager

Let's see, did any NU Navy ROTC play NU sports? Become SEALS ? Anyway Kudos 
 to Obama for getting Osama, I hope his Chicago connections show that he 
did it  for the right reasons, an old Chinese/Chicago proverb ?_He  who seeks 
vengeance must dig two graves: one for his enemy and one for  himself_ 
(http://thinkexist.com/quotation/he_who_seeks_vengeance_must_dig_two_graves-one/15
9444.html) ?

From Willie.Weinbaum at espn.com  Tue May  3 06:50:45 2011
From: Willie.Weinbaum at espn.com (Weinbaum, Willie)
Date: Tue, 3 May 2011 07:50:45 -0400
Subject: [NU Sports] Pat Fitz honored
Message-ID: <1F89BB2CE7A5B94D969618E8CC769CC36AF6810C@XCHGBRS4.corp.espn.pvt>

http://www.chicagotribune.com/sports/breaking/cbsports-fitzgerald-named-1worlds-coach-of-the-year-20110502,0,914555.story


From wildelk2 at aol.com  Tue May  3 11:28:03 2011
From: wildelk2 at aol.com (wildelk2 at aol.com)
Date: Tue, 3 May 2011 12:28:03 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: [NU Sports] OSAMA
In-Reply-To: <1239795965-1304342774-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-1833542707-@bda544.bisx.prod.on.blackberry>
References: <20110502030802.GA7237@romaine.tssi.com><002601cc0878$9bb43cc0$d31cb640$@com>
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Tressell would be a good place to start:)    Eric...enjoying a Bin Laden free afternoon





-----Original Message-----
From: neonrye <neonrye at aol.com>
To: Roy S. Lamberton <rstetson at capps-assoc.com>; nwu-sports-bounces <nwu-sports-bounces at tssi.com>; 'Mike Nolan' <nolan at romaine.tssi.com>; nwu-sports <nwu-sports at romaine.tssi.com>
Sent: Mon, May 2, 2011 9:27 am
Subject: Re: [NU Sports] OSAMA


How about a collective List cheer for our brave troops and Special Forces, 
eneral Petraeus, and our President and his Administration for a job well (and 
eticulously) done.  The world is a better place today.
Now if we could just rid it of Buckeyes....:-)
Seriously, we all have a lot to be thankful for this morning.
Paul Levinson (from NYC)
ent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry
-----Original Message-----
rom: "Roy S. Lamberton" <rstetson at capps-assoc.com>
ender: nwu-sports-bounces at tssi.com
ate: Sun, 1 May 2011 23:25:38 
o: 'Mike Nolan'<nolan at romaine.tssi.com>; <nwu-sports at romaine.tssi.com>
ubject: Re: [NU Sports] No Cats drafted?
They are not able to sign any new guys to free agent contracts, but....
rsl
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omputer Applications & Support Associates
------------------- Also ----------------------
Commissioner" Delaware American Legion Baseball
irector Media Relations - Little League 
 Senior League Softball World Series
TR2 USN (67-70) - CTRCS USNR (Ret) (64-67/70-95)
orthwestern University - Speech 1974 - 
hi Phi: Pi 1974, KD 1968
ublisher Emeritus: Purple Reign (Fox Sports)
===============================================
pinions expressed above are mine alone and are not
hose of any organizations of which I am a member.
-----------------------------------------------
f you think that there might be some form of practical 'clean energy'
hat could appease the environmentalists--say, geothermal--you're 
issing the point. The whole environmentalist idea of a minimal 
footprint' is fundamentally anti-energy." --Alex Epstein
=========  Go Cats -  Beat 'em All  ===========

----Original Message-----
rom: nwu-sports-bounces at tssi.com [mailto:nwu-sports-bounces at tssi.com] On Behalf 
f Mike
olan
ent: Sunday, May 01, 2011 11:08 PM
o: nwu-sports at romaine.tssi.com
ubject: [NU Sports] No Cats drafted?
No Cats were drafted, will any be able to sign free agent contract
r does the labor mess preclude that?
-
ike Nolan
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eady to go.
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From mzilka at sbcglobal.net  Thu May  5 19:17:32 2011
From: mzilka at sbcglobal.net (Marilyn)
Date: Thu, 5 May 2011 19:17:32 -0500
Subject: [NU Sports] Away games
Message-ID: <57105499-4B03-455E-91A9-51362FBAEB1F@sbcglobal.net>

For those that were asking, received order form for away game tickets today 

BC $50
Army $32
IL $50
Iowa $65
Ind $50
Neb $70


From hakirsch at aol.com  Thu May  5 19:27:15 2011
From: hakirsch at aol.com (hakirsch at aol.com)
Date: Fri, 6 May 2011 00:27:15 +0000
Subject: [NU Sports] Away games
Message-ID: <1802032177-1304641640-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-1473447891-@bda2184.bisx.prod.on.blackberry>

Wow. Seeing Nebraska on our schedule really hits home that they will be in our conference.  Let's hope we never come close to the last point spread against them

Harry
------Original Message------
From: Marilyn
Sender: nwu-sports-bounces at tssi.com
To: Nusports
Subject: [NU Sports] Away games
Sent: May 5, 2011 5:17 PM

For those that were asking, received order form for away game tickets today 

BC $50
Army $32
IL $50
Iowa $65
Ind $50
Neb $70

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From nolan at romaine.tssi.com  Thu May  5 19:31:48 2011
From: nolan at romaine.tssi.com (Mike Nolan)
Date: Thu, 5 May 2011 19:31:48 -0500
Subject: [NU Sports] Away games
In-Reply-To: <1802032177-1304641640-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-1473447891-@bda2184.bisx.prod.on.blackberry>
References: <1802032177-1304641640-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-1473447891-@bda2184.bisx.prod.on.blackberry>
Message-ID: <20110506003147.GA2021@romaine.tssi.com>

On Fri, May 06, 2011 at 12:27:15AM +0000, hakirsch at aol.com wrote:
> Wow. Seeing Nebraska on our schedule really hits home that they will be in our conference.  Let's hope we never come close to the last point spread against them
> 
> Harry

And Nortwestern fans better snap those tickets up quickly, because there
are plenty of Nebraskan fans who will try to get them.  

I suspect even though I'm an alum, I might be looked at a bit askance
if I tried to order tickets to that game, since I live in Lincoln.
--
Mike Nolan


From wildelk2 at aol.com  Fri May  6 11:53:17 2011
From: wildelk2 at aol.com (wildelk2 at aol.com)
Date: Fri, 6 May 2011 12:53:17 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: [NU Sports] Commit #3
Message-ID: <8CDDA253AFB569F-11A4-3B6C2@webmail-d010.sysops.aol.com>


   I read on wildcatreport that we've signed commit #3; a tank from Upper St. Clair in Western Pa.  
What I like above and beyond the signing is that we're building a pipeline into Western Pa. and getting players that traditionally would be signed by PSU, Pitt, Michigan, OSU and West Virgina.  Fitz has done a good job laying a pipeline to Western Pa., and I know he has a pipeline to Houston.  My question is (besides Chicago) , does he have a pipeline laid to other areas of the country?  It seems to me he's done well in Columbus of all places, as well as L.A.   Any other hotbeds of Cat recruiting I'm omitting?

    GO CATS!!     Eric
  

From neonrye at aol.com  Fri May  6 12:13:03 2011
From: neonrye at aol.com (neonrye at aol.com)
Date: Fri, 6 May 2011 17:13:03 +0000
Subject: [NU Sports] Commit #3
In-Reply-To: <8CDDA253AFB569F-11A4-3B6C2@webmail-d010.sysops.aol.com>
References: <8CDDA253AFB569F-11A4-3B6C2@webmail-d010.sysops.aol.com>
Message-ID: <349179802-1304701897-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-494303301-@bda544.bisx.prod.on.blackberry>

He seems to have gotten some good recruits from New Jersey (notwithstanding Greg Schiano's success in recruiting at Rutgers)--most notably, of course, Corey Wooton,

Paul Levinson
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Date: Fri, 6 May 2011 12:53:17 
To: <nwu-sports at tssi.com>
Subject: [NU Sports] Commit #3


   I read on wildcatreport that we've signed commit #3; a tank from Upper St. Clair in Western Pa.  
What I like above and beyond the signing is that we're building a pipeline into Western Pa. and getting players that traditionally would be signed by PSU, Pitt, Michigan, OSU and West Virgina.  Fitz has done a good job laying a pipeline to Western Pa., and I know he has a pipeline to Houston.  My question is (besides Chicago) , does he have a pipeline laid to other areas of the country?  It seems to me he's done well in Columbus of all places, as well as L.A.   Any other hotbeds of Cat recruiting I'm omitting?

    GO CATS!!     Eric
  
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From rstetson at capps-assoc.com  Fri May  6 12:46:53 2011
From: rstetson at capps-assoc.com (Roy S. Lamberton)
Date: Fri, 6 May 2011 13:46:53 -0400
Subject: [NU Sports] Speaking of James Patton
Message-ID: <001301cc0c15$9628bb00$c27a3100$@com>

Our former O-Line coach.

OU just promoted their on campus recruiting coordinator to TE and OT coach, the new guy
was an OT and knows Stoops from one of his stops

2 guys working with O-Line is almost like the Pros, but you don't usually see college
split the responsibilities that way.

Patton went to OU with Wilson, but remained as OU's O-Line guy. Wonder what is actually
going on down there - Patton is pretty good at getting the big guys to move together.

rsl 

++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
Roy S. Lamberton - Senior Associate & Unix Guru.
Computer Applications & Support Associates
-------------------- Also ----------------------
"Commissioner" Delaware American Legion Baseball
Director Media Relations - Little League 
  Senior League Softball World Series
CTR2 USN (67-70) - CTRCS USNR (Ret) (64-67/70-95)
Northwestern University - Speech 1974 - 
Chi Phi: Pi 1974, KD 1968
Publisher Emeritus: Purple Reign (Fox Sports)
================================================
Opinions expressed above are mine alone and are not
those of any organizations of which I am a member.
------------------------------------------------
If you think that there might be some form of practical 'clean energy'
that could appease the environmentalists--say, geothermal--you're 
missing the point. The whole environmentalist idea of a minimal 
'footprint' is fundamentally anti-energy." --Alex Epstein
==========  Go Cats -? Beat 'em All  ===========





From cherron604 at aol.com  Sat May  7 22:32:43 2011
From: cherron604 at aol.com (cherron604 at aol.com)
Date: Sat, 07 May 2011 23:32:43 -0400
Subject: [NU Sports] Away Games
Message-ID: <8CDDB47B9F45932-1318-57943@Webmail-d107.sysops.aol.com>


 Other than Nebraska's addition to the schedule, I was struck by the fact that

West Point, $32/seat
Boston College, $50/seat
Illinois, $50/seat
Indiana, $50/seat
Iowa, $65/seat
Nebraska, $70/seat

Is there any limit to how high these seat prices can go ?

Chuck Herron   Tech '85

 



From nolan at tssi.com  Sun May  8 01:46:25 2011
From: nolan at tssi.com (Mike Nolan)
Date: Sun, 8 May 2011 01:46:25 -0500 (CDT)
Subject: [NU Sports] Away Games
In-Reply-To: <8CDDB47B9F45932-1318-57943@Webmail-d107.sysops.aol.com>
Message-ID: <20110508064625.B738264485@romaine.tssi.com>

> West Point, $32/seat
> Boston College, $50/seat
> Illinois, $50/seat
> Indiana, $50/seat
> Iowa, $65/seat
> Nebraska, $70/seat
> 
> Is there any limit to how high these seat prices can go ?

Probably not, as long as demand exceeds supply, which it does at places 
like Nebraska, Penn State, Iowa, Michigan, and Ohio State.

The last time Nebraska didn't sell out a game, JFK was still President,
and they keep adding seats to Memorial Stadium.

The recently approved expansion, which is expected to be ready for 
the 2013 season, will take capacity to around 90,000, which is almost 
beyond belief in this small state.  

For Michigan to have the same percentage of their state's population in 
the Big House, it would have to seat over 500,000.  

And I think Nebraska has basically already sold most of those seats.
--
Mike Nolan




From hakirsch at aol.com  Sun May  8 08:17:14 2011
From: hakirsch at aol.com (hakirsch at aol.com)
Date: Sun, 8 May 2011 13:17:14 +0000
Subject: [NU Sports] Away Games
Message-ID: <1936477004-1304860647-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-1293450033-@bda2184.bisx.prod.on.blackberry>

Wonder if prices are higher in the S.E.C to cover booster payments ?

Harry
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To: nwu-sports at tssi.com
Subject: Re: [NU Sports] Away Games
Sent: May 7, 2011 8:32 PM


 Other than Nebraska's addition to the schedule, I was struck by the fact that

West Point, $32/seat
Boston College, $50/seat
Illinois, $50/seat
Indiana, $50/seat
Iowa, $65/seat
Nebraska, $70/seat

Is there any limit to how high these seat prices can go ?

Chuck Herron   Tech '85

 


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From Jeff.Beamsley at covisint.com  Sun May  8 09:10:49 2011
From: Jeff.Beamsley at covisint.com (Beamsley, Jeff)
Date: Sun, 8 May 2011 10:10:49 -0400
Subject: [NU Sports] Away Games
In-Reply-To: <1936477004-1304860647-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-1293450033-@bda2184.bisx.prod.on.blackberry>
References: <1936477004-1304860647-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-1293450033-@bda2184.bisx.prod.on.blackberry>
Message-ID: <742A475D-FBE6-4E7C-8F17-7A1610C90FBE@covisint.com>

Careful about "throwing stones". We have a significant scandal around what appear to numerous violations at OSU. 

Jeff

Sent from my iPhone

On May 8, 2011, at 9:17 AM, "hakirsch at aol.com" <hakirsch at aol.com> wrote:

> Wonder if prices are higher in the S.E.C to cover booster payments ?
> 
> Harry
> 
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> From: cherron604 at aol.com
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> To: nwu-sports at tssi.com
> Subject: Re: [NU Sports] Away Games
> Sent: May 7, 2011 8:32 PM
> 
> 
> Other than Nebraska's addition to the schedule, I was struck by the fact that
> 
> West Point, $32/seat
> Boston College, $50/seat
> Illinois, $50/seat
> Indiana, $50/seat
> Iowa, $65/seat
> Nebraska, $70/seat
> 
> Is there any limit to how high these seat prices can go ?
> 
> Chuck Herron   Tech '85
> 
> 
> 
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From sportsbiz at gmail.com  Sun May  8 09:23:18 2011
From: sportsbiz at gmail.com (sports biz.  )
Date: Sun, 8 May 2011 10:23:18 -0400
Subject: [NU Sports] Away Games
In-Reply-To: <20110508064625.B738264485@romaine.tssi.com>
References: <20110508064625.B738264485@romaine.tssi.com>
Message-ID: <7318A9B1-5571-42B5-83EE-27E98E3A13BC@gmail.com>

The flip side of that is the last time Indiana sold out a game was likely the Johnson administration, but that doesn't stop them from raising prices to keep pace with other conference members.



On May 8, 2011, at 2:46 AM, nolan at tssi.com (Mike Nolan) wrote:

>> West Point, $32/seat
>> Boston College, $50/seat
>> Illinois, $50/seat
>> Indiana, $50/seat
>> Iowa, $65/seat
>> Nebraska, $70/seat
>> 
>> Is there any limit to how high these seat prices can go ?
> 
> Probably not, as long as demand exceeds supply, which it does at places 
> like Nebraska, Penn State, Iowa, Michigan, and Ohio State.
> 
> The last time Nebraska didn't sell out a game, JFK was still President,
> and they keep adding seats to Memorial Stadium.
> 
> The recently approved expansion, which is expected to be ready for 
> the 2013 season, will take capacity to around 90,000, which is almost 
> beyond belief in this small state.  
> 
> For Michigan to have the same percentage of their state's population in 
> the Big House, it would have to seat over 500,000.  
> 
> And I think Nebraska has basically already sold most of those seats.
> --
> Mike Nolan
> 
> 
> 
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From AJWDBW at aol.com  Sun May  8 12:41:16 2011
From: AJWDBW at aol.com (AJWDBW at aol.com)
Date: Sun, 8 May 2011 13:41:16 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: [NU Sports] Away Games
Message-ID: <188787.2d750225.3af82fbc@aol.com>

If I recall correctly, this past year, here in Minneapolis, we paid  $60 
per seat for the NU game. And as I was writing the check, I also  recalled 
that during the "leather helmet" era, when I was in school,we got  in free!
Don Williams
C55
 
 
In a message dated 5/8/2011 9:23:19 A.M. Central Daylight Time,  
sportsbiz at gmail.com writes:

The flip  side of that is the last time Indiana sold out a game was likely 
the Johnson  administration, but that doesn't stop them from raising prices 
to keep pace  with other conference members.



On May 8, 2011, at 2:46 AM,  nolan at tssi.com (Mike Nolan) wrote:

>> West Point,  $32/seat
>> Boston College, $50/seat
>> Illinois,  $50/seat
>> Indiana, $50/seat
>> Iowa, $65/seat
>>  Nebraska, $70/seat
>> 
>> Is there any limit to how high  these seat prices can go ?
> 
> Probably not, as long as demand  exceeds supply, which it does at places 
> like Nebraska, Penn State,  Iowa, Michigan, and Ohio State.
> 
> The last time Nebraska didn't  sell out a game, JFK was still President,
> and they keep adding seats  to Memorial Stadium.
> 
> The recently approved expansion, which  is expected to be ready for 
> the 2013 season, will take capacity to  around 90,000, which is almost 
> beyond belief in this small  state.  
> 
> For Michigan to have the same percentage of  their state's population in 
> the Big House, it would have to seat over  500,000.  
> 
> And I think Nebraska has basically already  sold most of those seats.
> --
> Mike Nolan
> 
>  
> 
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> nwu-sports at tssi.com
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From hakirsch at aol.com  Sun May  8 12:56:55 2011
From: hakirsch at aol.com (hakirsch at aol.com)
Date: Sun, 8 May 2011 17:56:55 +0000
Subject: [NU Sports] Away Games
In-Reply-To: <188787.2d750225.3af82fbc@aol.com>
References: <188787.2d750225.3af82fbc@aol.com>
Message-ID: <763479373-1304877422-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-221560978-@bda2184.bisx.prod.on.blackberry>

Everyone got in free ? Or just students ?

Harry
Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry

-----Original Message-----
From: AJWDBW at aol.com
Sender: nwu-sports-bounces at tssi.com
Date: Sun, 8 May 2011 13:41:16 
To: <sportsbiz at gmail.com>; <nolan at tssi.com>
Cc: <nwu-sports at tssi.com>
Subject: Re: [NU Sports] Away Games

If I recall correctly, this past year, here in Minneapolis, we paid  $60 
per seat for the NU game. And as I was writing the check, I also  recalled 
that during the "leather helmet" era, when I was in school,we got  in free!
Don Williams
C55
 
 
In a message dated 5/8/2011 9:23:19 A.M. Central Daylight Time,  
sportsbiz at gmail.com writes:

The flip  side of that is the last time Indiana sold out a game was likely 
the Johnson  administration, but that doesn't stop them from raising prices 
to keep pace  with other conference members.



On May 8, 2011, at 2:46 AM,  nolan at tssi.com (Mike Nolan) wrote:

>> West Point,  $32/seat
>> Boston College, $50/seat
>> Illinois,  $50/seat
>> Indiana, $50/seat
>> Iowa, $65/seat
>>  Nebraska, $70/seat
>> 
>> Is there any limit to how high  these seat prices can go ?
> 
> Probably not, as long as demand  exceeds supply, which it does at places 
> like Nebraska, Penn State,  Iowa, Michigan, and Ohio State.
> 
> The last time Nebraska didn't  sell out a game, JFK was still President,
> and they keep adding seats  to Memorial Stadium.
> 
> The recently approved expansion, which  is expected to be ready for 
> the 2013 season, will take capacity to  around 90,000, which is almost 
> beyond belief in this small  state.  
> 
> For Michigan to have the same percentage of  their state's population in 
> the Big House, it would have to seat over  500,000.  
> 
> And I think Nebraska has basically already  sold most of those seats.
> --
> Mike Nolan
> 
>  
> 
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> nwu-sports at tssi.com
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From AJWDBW at aol.com  Sun May  8 17:19:07 2011
From: AJWDBW at aol.com (AJWDBW at aol.com)
Date: Sun, 8 May 2011 18:19:07 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: [NU Sports] Away Games
Message-ID: <91fe1.11bd66a7.3af870db@aol.com>

Just students.
 
 
In a message dated 5/8/2011 12:57:06 P.M. Central Daylight Time,  
hakirsch at aol.com writes:

Everyone  got in free ? Or just students  ?



From Willie.Weinbaum at espn.com  Sun May  8 18:45:21 2011
From: Willie.Weinbaum at espn.com (Weinbaum, Willie)
Date: Sun, 8 May 2011 19:45:21 -0400
Subject: [NU Sports] Shurna announces return
Message-ID: <1F89BB2CE7A5B94D969618E8CC769CC36AA6634D@XCHGBRS4.corp.espn.pvt>

http://nusports.cstv.com/sports/m-baskbl/spec-rel/050811aaa.html




From tbng at comcast.net  Sun May  8 20:32:53 2011
From: tbng at comcast.net (Dennis W. Brandt)
Date: Sun, 8 May 2011 21:32:53 -0400
Subject: [NU Sports] Shurna announces return
References: <1F89BB2CE7A5B94D969618E8CC769CC36AA6634D@XCHGBRS4.corp.espn.pvt>
Message-ID: <963954C91D04402E91FB3653F48AA59F@dennismachine>

> http://nusports.cstv.com/sports/m-baskbl/spec-rel/050811aaa.html

Wise move, Johnny me boyo.


From nolan at tssi.com  Sun May  8 20:34:37 2011
From: nolan at tssi.com (Mike Nolan)
Date: Sun, 8 May 2011 20:34:37 -0500 (CDT)
Subject: [NU Sports] Away Games
In-Reply-To: <91fe1.11bd66a7.3af870db@aol.com>
Message-ID: <20110509013437.7F55A610DB@romaine.tssi.com>

Students got in for free (on their student IDs) at both football and
basketball games when I was at Northwestern, 1967-72.  I don't know 
when that changed.
--
Mike Nolan

> Just students.
>  
>  
> In a message dated 5/8/2011 12:57:06 P.M. Central Daylight Time,  
> hakirsch at aol.com writes:
> 
> Everyone  got in free ? Or just students  ?


From AJWDBW at aol.com  Sun May  8 20:40:10 2011
From: AJWDBW at aol.com (AJWDBW at aol.com)
Date: Sun, 8 May 2011 21:40:10 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: [NU Sports] Away Games
Message-ID: <9394f.40511ea3.3af89ffa@aol.com>

As an aside, I think the tuition was $400 a Quarter. I was going to  school 
on the GI Bill so I am not certain, but it was in that  neighborhood.
Don
 
 
In a message dated 5/8/2011 8:34:39 P.M. Central Daylight Time,  
nolan at tssi.com writes:

Students  got in for free (on their student IDs) at both football and
basketball  games when I was at Northwestern, 1967-72.  I don't know 
when that  changed.


From nolan at tssi.com  Sun May  8 20:43:49 2011
From: nolan at tssi.com (Mike Nolan)
Date: Sun, 8 May 2011 20:43:49 -0500 (CDT)
Subject: [NU Sports] Away Games
In-Reply-To: <9394f.40511ea3.3af89ffa@aol.com>
Message-ID: <20110509014349.DDE3D610CF@romaine.tssi.com>

> As an aside, I think the tuition was $400 a Quarter. I was going to  school 
> on the GI Bill so I am not certain, but it was in that  neighborhood.
> Don

I think it was $600 a quarter when I was there.
--
Mike Nolan


From Willie.Weinbaum at espn.com  Sun May  8 20:44:28 2011
From: Willie.Weinbaum at espn.com (Weinbaum, Willie)
Date: Sun, 8 May 2011 21:44:28 -0400
Subject: [NU Sports] Away Games
In-Reply-To: <20110509013437.7F55A610DB@romaine.tssi.com>
References: <91fe1.11bd66a7.3af870db@aol.com>
 <20110509013437.7F55A610DB@romaine.tssi.com>
Message-ID: <1F89BB2CE7A5B94D969618E8CC769CC36AA66354@XCHGBRS4.corp.espn.pvt>

We got in free in my era - - late '70s/early '80s. 

 'Twas when the running line was that you'd call the ticket office and ask what time the game was going to start and the reply would be "what time can you get here?"

-----Original Message-----
From: nwu-sports-bounces at tssi.com [mailto:nwu-sports-bounces at tssi.com] On Behalf Of Mike Nolan
Sent: Sunday, May 08, 2011 9:35 PM
To: AJWDBW at aol.com
Cc: nwu-sports at tssi.com; nwu-sports-bounces at tssi.com
Subject: Re: [NU Sports] Away Games

Students got in for free (on their student IDs) at both football and basketball games when I was at Northwestern, 1967-72.  I don't know when that changed.
--
Mike Nolan

> Just students.
>
>
> In a message dated 5/8/2011 12:57:06 P.M. Central Daylight Time, 
> hakirsch at aol.com writes:
>
> Everyone  got in free ? Or just students  ?

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From yevb0 at alumni.northwestern.edu  Sun May  8 21:22:19 2011
From: yevb0 at alumni.northwestern.edu (Evan Bradley)
Date: Sun, 8 May 2011 22:22:19 -0400
Subject: [NU Sports] Away Games
In-Reply-To: <1F89BB2CE7A5B94D969618E8CC769CC36AA66354@XCHGBRS4.corp.espn.pvt>
References: <91fe1.11bd66a7.3af870db@aol.com>
 <20110509013437.7F55A610DB@romaine.tssi.com>
 <1F89BB2CE7A5B94D969618E8CC769CC36AA66354@XCHGBRS4.corp.espn.pvt>
Message-ID: <BANLkTinRc2o3AGF43rGi8FN66cTXd0LM7Q@mail.gmail.com>

it changed at some point before I arrived ('01), and by the time I
left ('05) students got in free to all sporting events (well, $25 was
added into the student activity fee, but that's a steal if you go to
even a few games). I believe students still get in free.

On Sun, May 8, 2011 at 9:44 PM, Weinbaum, Willie
<Willie.Weinbaum at espn.com> wrote:
> We got in free in my era - - late '70s/early '80s.
>
> ?'Twas when the running line was that you'd call the ticket office and ask what time the game was going to start and the reply would be "what time can you get here?"
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: nwu-sports-bounces at tssi.com [mailto:nwu-sports-bounces at tssi.com] On Behalf Of Mike Nolan
> Sent: Sunday, May 08, 2011 9:35 PM
> To: AJWDBW at aol.com
> Cc: nwu-sports at tssi.com; nwu-sports-bounces at tssi.com
> Subject: Re: [NU Sports] Away Games
>
> Students got in for free (on their student IDs) at both football and basketball games when I was at Northwestern, 1967-72. ?I don't know when that changed.
> --
> Mike Nolan
>
>> Just students.
>>
>>
>> In a message dated 5/8/2011 12:57:06 P.M. Central Daylight Time,
>> hakirsch at aol.com writes:
>>
>> Everyone ?got in free ? Or just students ??
>
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From johnl at mac.com  Sun May  8 21:31:14 2011
From: johnl at mac.com (Labbe John)
Date: Sun, 08 May 2011 21:31:14 -0500
Subject: [NU Sports] Away Games
In-Reply-To: <BANLkTinRc2o3AGF43rGi8FN66cTXd0LM7Q@mail.gmail.com>
References: <91fe1.11bd66a7.3af870db@aol.com>
 <20110509013437.7F55A610DB@romaine.tssi.com>
 <1F89BB2CE7A5B94D969618E8CC769CC36AA66354@XCHGBRS4.corp.espn.pvt>
 <BANLkTinRc2o3AGF43rGi8FN66cTXd0LM7Q@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <42C6B36A-85D1-4B2C-A6A8-9A8B137E70B6@mac.com>

Free admission for students to football games ended at the beginning  
of the 1995 season.  They announced the end of free tickets in the  
spring of 1995, and basically everyone thought it was insane as no one  
thought anyone would pay to see NU football.  Then that September,  
after we beat Notre Dame to start the 1995 season, we were all in line  
to buy our season tickets (I was a sophomore at that time).  I've held  
season tickets every year since then.

Like Evan says, more recently, they've added an additional student  
activity fee so that student tickets are once again "free."  But back  
in the day (1994 and earlier), you'd just flash your ID and get in free.



On May 8, 2011, at 9:22 PM, Evan Bradley wrote:

> it changed at some point before I arrived ('01), and by the time I
> left ('05) students got in free to all sporting events (well, $25 was
> added into the student activity fee, but that's a steal if you go to
> even a few games). I believe students still get in free.
>
> On Sun, May 8, 2011 at 9:44 PM, Weinbaum, Willie
> <Willie.Weinbaum at espn.com> wrote:
>> We got in free in my era - - late '70s/early '80s.
>>
>>  'Twas when the running line was that you'd call the ticket office  
>> and ask what time the game was going to start and the reply would  
>> be "what time can you get here?"
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: nwu-sports-bounces at tssi.com [mailto:nwu-sports- 
>> bounces at tssi.com] On Behalf Of Mike Nolan
>> Sent: Sunday, May 08, 2011 9:35 PM
>> To: AJWDBW at aol.com
>> Cc: nwu-sports at tssi.com; nwu-sports-bounces at tssi.com
>> Subject: Re: [NU Sports] Away Games
>>
>> Students got in for free (on their student IDs) at both football  
>> and basketball games when I was at Northwestern, 1967-72.  I don't  
>> know when that changed.
>> --
>> Mike Nolan
>>
>>> Just students.
>>>
>>>
>>> In a message dated 5/8/2011 12:57:06 P.M. Central Daylight Time,
>>> hakirsch at aol.com writes:
>>>
>>> Everyone  got in free ? Or just students  ?
>>
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From MHRJGScott at aol.com  Mon May  9 09:55:35 2011
From: MHRJGScott at aol.com (MHRJGScott at aol.com)
Date: Mon, 9 May 2011 10:55:35 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: [NU Sports] Luke Donald
Message-ID: <12a2b8.76992b7.3af95a67@aol.com>

Everyone should read the profile in sports illustrated about Luke. Seldom  
has an article made NU look so good and an alum seem so perfect.
If this link does not work go to sportsillustrated.cnn.com and search  
Donald
_http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/vault/article/magazine/MAG1185075/index.ht
m_ 
(http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/vault/article/magazine/MAG1185075/index.htm) 

From nolan at tssi.com  Mon May  9 11:36:57 2011
From: nolan at tssi.com (Mike Nolan)
Date: Mon, 9 May 2011 11:36:57 -0500 (CDT)
Subject: [NU Sports] Luke Donald
In-Reply-To: <12a2b8.76992b7.3af95a67@aol.com>
Message-ID: <20110509163657.C10F9610CF@romaine.tssi.com>

> Everyone should read the profile in sports illustrated about Luke. Seldom  
> has an article made NU look so good and an alum seem so perfect.
> If this link does not work go to sportsillustrated.cnn.com and search  
> Donald

Has any golfer ever risen to #1 in the world rankings without
winning any of the major tournaments? 
--
Mike Nolan


From rstetson at capps-assoc.com  Mon May  9 12:15:39 2011
From: rstetson at capps-assoc.com (Roy S. Lamberton)
Date: Mon, 9 May 2011 13:15:39 -0400
Subject: [NU Sports] Luke Donald
In-Reply-To: <20110509163657.C10F9610CF@romaine.tssi.com>
References: <12a2b8.76992b7.3af95a67@aol.com>
 <20110509163657.C10F9610CF@romaine.tssi.com>
Message-ID: <000901cc0e6c$b8c225d0$2a467170$@com>

Would be great if an NU player did it...

rsl

++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
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Computer Applications & Support Associates
-------------------- Also ----------------------
"Commissioner" Delaware American Legion Baseball
Director Media Relations - Little League 
  Senior League Softball World Series
CTR2 USN (67-70) - CTRCS USNR (Ret) (64-67/70-95)
Northwestern University - Speech 1974 - 
Chi Phi: Pi 1974, KD 1968
Publisher Emeritus: Purple Reign (Fox Sports)
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-----Original Message-----
From: nwu-sports-bounces at tssi.com [mailto:nwu-sports-bounces at tssi.com] On Behalf Of Mike
Nolan
Sent: Monday, May 09, 2011 12:37 PM
To: MHRJGScott at aol.com
Cc: nwu-sports at tssi.com
Subject: Re: [NU Sports] Luke Donald

> Everyone should read the profile in sports illustrated about Luke. Seldom  
> has an article made NU look so good and an alum seem so perfect.
> If this link does not work go to sportsillustrated.cnn.com and search  
> Donald

Has any golfer ever risen to #1 in the world rankings without
winning any of the major tournaments? 
--
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From MHRJGScott at aol.com  Mon May  9 18:41:08 2011
From: MHRJGScott at aol.com (MHRJGScott at aol.com)
Date: Mon, 9 May 2011 19:41:08 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: [NU Sports] Fitz
Message-ID: <20bc5.35c4e272.3af9d594@aol.com>

Inks a new contract that will stretch to at least 2018. Thanks big  blue.

From jleonard518 at yahoo.com  Tue May 10 11:40:47 2011
From: jleonard518 at yahoo.com (Jim Leonard)
Date: Tue, 10 May 2011 09:40:47 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [NU Sports] Fitz
In-Reply-To: <20bc5.35c4e272.3af9d594@aol.com>
References: <20bc5.35c4e272.3af9d594@aol.com>
Message-ID: <526694.21288.qm@web36804.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

It's never a bad thing to distance your program from the coaching carousel 
(unless you count ND's extension of Charlie Weis). 


Does anyone know when the facilities survey will translate to real changes at 
Dyche? 


Go Cats!
Jim


?


----- Original Message ----
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To: nwu-sports at tssi.com
Sent: Mon, May 9, 2011 6:41:08 PM
Subject: [NU Sports] Fitz

Inks a new contract that will stretch to at least 2018. Thanks big? blue.
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From rstetson at capps-assoc.com  Tue May 10 13:05:05 2011
From: rstetson at capps-assoc.com (Roy S. Lamberton)
Date: Tue, 10 May 2011 14:05:05 -0400
Subject: [NU Sports] To answer a question that was floating around after the
	draft
Message-ID: <000101cc0f3c$cb2118a0$616349e0$@com>

Teams ARE NOT allowed to even talk to the undrafted free agents until the labor thing is
finished.

Will affect the Pro prospects of several Cats who had dreams of going to camp.

rsl

++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
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Computer Applications & Support Associates
-------------------- Also ----------------------
"Commissioner" Delaware American Legion Baseball
Director Media Relations - Little League 
  Senior League Softball World Series
CTR2 USN (67-70) - CTRCS USNR (Ret) (64-67/70-95)
Northwestern University - Speech 1974 - 
Chi Phi: Pi 1974, KD 1968
Publisher Emeritus: Purple Reign (Fox Sports)
================================================
Opinions expressed above are mine alone and are not
those of any organizations of which I am a member.
------------------------------------------------
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From rstetson at capps-assoc.com  Tue May 10 13:46:16 2011
From: rstetson at capps-assoc.com (Roy S. Lamberton)
Date: Tue, 10 May 2011 14:46:16 -0400
Subject: [NU Sports] Fitz
In-Reply-To: <526694.21288.qm@web36804.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
References: <20bc5.35c4e272.3af9d594@aol.com>
 <526694.21288.qm@web36804.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <001601cc0f42$8f7d6640$ae7832c0$@com>

I expect it will be more in the practice and support areas.

I seem to remember that Walker got more $$$ for the assistants in one of his negotiations,
and later got the academic center as part of his talks.

Problem is, when Fitz retires, what building do you name after him?

rsl

++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
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Computer Applications & Support Associates
-------------------- Also ----------------------
"Commissioner" Delaware American Legion Baseball
Director Media Relations - Little League 
  Senior League Softball World Series
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-----Original Message-----
From: nwu-sports-bounces at tssi.com [mailto:nwu-sports-bounces at tssi.com] On Behalf Of Jim
Leonard
Sent: Tuesday, May 10, 2011 12:41 PM
To: MHRJGScott at aol.com; nwu-sports at tssi.com
Subject: Re: [NU Sports] Fitz

It's never a bad thing to distance your program from the coaching carousel 
(unless you count ND's extension of Charlie Weis). 


Does anyone know when the facilities survey will translate to real changes at 
Dyche? 


Go Cats!
Jim


?


----- Original Message ----
From: "MHRJGScott at aol.com" <MHRJGScott at aol.com>
To: nwu-sports at tssi.com
Sent: Mon, May 9, 2011 6:41:08 PM
Subject: [NU Sports] Fitz

Inks a new contract that will stretch to at least 2018. Thanks big? blue.
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From Jeff.Beamsley at covisint.com  Tue May 10 13:49:52 2011
From: Jeff.Beamsley at covisint.com (Beamsley, Jeff)
Date: Tue, 10 May 2011 14:49:52 -0400
Subject: [NU Sports] Fitz
In-Reply-To: <001601cc0f42$8f7d6640$ae7832c0$@com>
References: <20bc5.35c4e272.3af9d594@aol.com>
 <526694.21288.qm@web36804.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
 <001601cc0f42$8f7d6640$ae7832c0$@com>
Message-ID: <FA7822545C26F244823CA5D312ABBDEA07275A27@nasa-dtw-ex006.nasa.cpwr.corp>

The building that will be required to house all of the trophies his teams accumulate for BT championships, Bowl Wins, and National Championships.

Jeff

-----Original Message-----
From: nwu-sports-bounces at tssi.com [mailto:nwu-sports-bounces at tssi.com] On Behalf Of Roy S. Lamberton
Sent: Tuesday, May 10, 2011 2:46 PM
To: 'Jim Leonard'; MHRJGScott at aol.com; nwu-sports at tssi.com
Subject: Re: [NU Sports] Fitz

I expect it will be more in the practice and support areas.

I seem to remember that Walker got more $$$ for the assistants in one of his negotiations,
and later got the academic center as part of his talks.

Problem is, when Fitz retires, what building do you name after him?

rsl

++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
Roy S. Lamberton - Senior Associate & Unix Guru.
Computer Applications & Support Associates
-------------------- Also ----------------------
"Commissioner" Delaware American Legion Baseball
Director Media Relations - Little League 
  Senior League Softball World Series
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==========  Go Cats -? Beat 'em All  ===========



-----Original Message-----
From: nwu-sports-bounces at tssi.com [mailto:nwu-sports-bounces at tssi.com] On Behalf Of Jim
Leonard
Sent: Tuesday, May 10, 2011 12:41 PM
To: MHRJGScott at aol.com; nwu-sports at tssi.com
Subject: Re: [NU Sports] Fitz

It's never a bad thing to distance your program from the coaching carousel 
(unless you count ND's extension of Charlie Weis). 


Does anyone know when the facilities survey will translate to real changes at 
Dyche? 


Go Cats!
Jim


?


----- Original Message ----
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To: nwu-sports at tssi.com
Sent: Mon, May 9, 2011 6:41:08 PM
Subject: [NU Sports] Fitz

Inks a new contract that will stretch to at least 2018. Thanks big? blue.
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From scottzel at gmail.com  Tue May 10 14:36:52 2011
From: scottzel at gmail.com (Scott Zeller, M.D.)
Date: Tue, 10 May 2011 12:36:52 -0700
Subject: [NU Sports] Fitz
In-Reply-To: <FA7822545C26F244823CA5D312ABBDEA07275A27@nasa-dtw-ex006.nasa.cpwr.corp>
References: <20bc5.35c4e272.3af9d594@aol.com>
 <526694.21288.qm@web36804.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
 <001601cc0f42$8f7d6640$ae7832c0$@com>
 <FA7822545C26F244823CA5D312ABBDEA07275A27@nasa-dtw-ex006.nasa.cpwr.corp>
Message-ID: <BANLkTimN-14cTUKga=e1dcSh-e20erD_kw@mail.gmail.com>

If he does all that I vote for a Fitzgerald Cathedral.

On Tue, May 10, 2011 at 11:49 AM, Beamsley, Jeff <Jeff.Beamsley at covisint.com
> wrote:

> The building that will be required to house all of the trophies his teams
> accumulate for BT championships, Bowl Wins, and National Championships.
>
> Jeff
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: nwu-sports-bounces at tssi.com [mailto:nwu-sports-bounces at tssi.com] On
> Behalf Of Roy S. Lamberton
> Sent: Tuesday, May 10, 2011 2:46 PM
> To: 'Jim Leonard'; MHRJGScott at aol.com; nwu-sports at tssi.com
> Subject: Re: [NU Sports] Fitz
>
> I expect it will be more in the practice and support areas.
>
> I seem to remember that Walker got more $$$ for the assistants in one of
> his negotiations,
> and later got the academic center as part of his talks.
>
> Problem is, when Fitz retires, what building do you name after him?
>
> rsl
>
> ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
> Roy S. Lamberton - Senior Associate & Unix Guru.
> Computer Applications & Support Associates
> -------------------- Also ----------------------
> "Commissioner" Delaware American Legion Baseball
> Director Media Relations - Little League
>  Senior League Softball World Series
> CTR2 USN (67-70) - CTRCS USNR (Ret) (64-67/70-95)
> Northwestern University - Speech 1974 -
> Chi Phi: Pi 1974, KD 1968
> Publisher Emeritus: Purple Reign (Fox Sports)
> ================================================
> Opinions expressed above are mine alone and are not
> those of any organizations of which I am a member.
> ------------------------------------------------
> illigitimis non carborundum -
>                Gen "Vinegar" Joe Stillwell, USA
> ==========  Go Cats -  Beat 'em All  ===========
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: nwu-sports-bounces at tssi.com [mailto:nwu-sports-bounces at tssi.com] On
> Behalf Of Jim
> Leonard
> Sent: Tuesday, May 10, 2011 12:41 PM
> To: MHRJGScott at aol.com; nwu-sports at tssi.com
> Subject: Re: [NU Sports] Fitz
>
> It's never a bad thing to distance your program from the coaching carousel
> (unless you count ND's extension of Charlie Weis).
>
>
> Does anyone know when the facilities survey will translate to real changes
> at
> Dyche?
>
>
> Go Cats!
> Jim
>
>
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message ----
> From: "MHRJGScott at aol.com" <MHRJGScott at aol.com>
> To: nwu-sports at tssi.com
> Sent: Mon, May 9, 2011 6:41:08 PM
> Subject: [NU Sports] Fitz
>
> Inks a new contract that will stretch to at least 2018. Thanks big  blue.
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From nolan at tssi.com  Tue May 10 15:01:59 2011
From: nolan at tssi.com (Mike Nolan)
Date: Tue, 10 May 2011 15:01:59 -0500 (CDT)
Subject: [NU Sports] Fitz
In-Reply-To: <001601cc0f42$8f7d6640$ae7832c0$@com>
Message-ID: <20110510200159.875AF610E3@romaine.tssi.com>

> Problem is, when Fitz retires, what building do you name after him?

What difference does it make if a few years down the road the
University renames it for some current donor, as it did
with Dyche Stadium?
--
Mike Nolan


From nolan at tssi.com  Tue May 10 15:04:00 2011
From: nolan at tssi.com (Mike Nolan)
Date: Tue, 10 May 2011 15:04:00 -0500 (CDT)
Subject: [NU Sports] To answer a question that was floating around after
	theu
In-Reply-To: <000101cc0f3c$cb2118a0$616349e0$@com>
Message-ID: <20110510200400.E1510610EF@romaine.tssi.com>

> Teams ARE NOT allowed to even talk to the undrafted free agents until the 
> labor thing is
> finished.
> 
> Will affect the Pro prospects of several Cats who had dreams of going to 
> camp.

You're assuming there will be camps in 2011.  Right now that's far
from certain.

Glad we got that issue cleared up, even if it hurts former Northwestern 
players.
--
Mike Nolan


From nolan at tssi.com  Tue May 10 15:26:18 2011
From: nolan at tssi.com (Mike Nolan)
Date: Tue, 10 May 2011 15:26:18 -0500 (CDT)
Subject: [NU Sports] Fitz
In-Reply-To: <20bc5.35c4e272.3af9d594@aol.com>
Message-ID: <20110510202618.8F3DD610EE@romaine.tssi.com>

> Inks a new contract that will stretch to at least 2018. Thanks big  blue.

According to the ESPN Big 10 blog, the new contract goes through
the 2020 season.  The old one went through the 2015 season, so
he was extended by five years, which in the coaching business is
a pretty long time.  

But another way of looking at is that since Pat was born on December
2, 1974, this contract only goes until around his 46th birthday. :-)
--
Mike Nolan


From MHRJGScott at aol.com  Wed May 11 18:50:30 2011
From: MHRJGScott at aol.com (MHRJGScott at aol.com)
Date: Wed, 11 May 2011 19:50:30 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: [NU Sports] Mariotti
Message-ID: <649d8.23a96227.3afc7ac5@aol.com>

Busted again, jail this time
 
_http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/lat-former-espn-personality-jay-mariotti
-charged-with-felony-stalking-and-assault-20110511,0,1666485.story_ 
(http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/lat-former-espn-personality-jay-mariotti-charged
-with-felony-stalking-and-assault-20110511,0,1666485.story) 

From sportsbiz at gmail.com  Wed May 11 18:56:22 2011
From: sportsbiz at gmail.com (Sportsbiz)
Date: Wed, 11 May 2011 19:56:22 -0400
Subject: [NU Sports] Big Ten's Richest Alumni
Message-ID: <BANLkTinzMkfsjYnajP9LwfGJM4S6aM=Q9w@mail.gmail.com>

Here's a list I came across of the so-called richest alum from each member
school, together with richest athlete.  I don't vouch for its accuracy, but
do note that I believe Neil Bluhm, the fellow listed for Illinois, holds a
law degree from NU.


http://www.businessinsider.com/richest-alumni-big-ten-2011-4

Mark


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From MHRJGScott at aol.com  Wed May 11 19:32:15 2011
From: MHRJGScott at aol.com (MHRJGScott at aol.com)
Date: Wed, 11 May 2011 20:32:15 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: [NU Sports] Big Ten's Richest Alumni
Message-ID: <2666a.46b716a0.3afc848f@aol.com>

>From the richest athlete lists I see I bet Luke Donald will rank first  
pretty soon

From rstetson at capps-assoc.com  Wed May 11 22:29:50 2011
From: rstetson at capps-assoc.com (Roy S. Lamberton)
Date: Wed, 11 May 2011 23:29:50 -0400
Subject: [NU Sports] Big Ten's Richest Alumni
In-Reply-To: <BANLkTinzMkfsjYnajP9LwfGJM4S6aM=Q9w@mail.gmail.com>
References: <BANLkTinzMkfsjYnajP9LwfGJM4S6aM=Q9w@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <001b01cc1054$da8cf570$8fa6e050$@com>

Of all the richest Alums, only one - the Cargill guy from Minny - inherited his wealth.

The rest did it the old fashioned way

rsl 

++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
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Computer Applications & Support Associates
-------------------- Also ----------------------
"Commissioner" Delaware American Legion Baseball
Director Media Relations - Little League 
  Senior League Softball World Series
CTR2 USN (67-70) - CTRCS USNR (Ret) (64-67/70-95)
Northwestern University - Speech 1974 - 
Chi Phi: Pi 1974, KD 1968
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-----Original Message-----
From: nwu-sports-bounces at tssi.com [mailto:nwu-sports-bounces at tssi.com] On Behalf Of
Sportsbiz
Sent: Wednesday, May 11, 2011 7:56 PM
To: nwu-sports at tssi.com
Subject: [NU Sports] Big Ten's Richest Alumni

Here's a list I came across of the so-called richest alum from each member
school, together with richest athlete.  I don't vouch for its accuracy, but
do note that I believe Neil Bluhm, the fellow listed for Illinois, holds a
law degree from NU.


http://www.businessinsider.com/richest-alumni-big-ten-2011-4

Mark


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From hakirsch at aol.com  Thu May 12 05:52:04 2011
From: hakirsch at aol.com (hakirsch at aol.com)
Date: Thu, 12 May 2011 10:52:04 +0000
Subject: [NU Sports] Big Ten's Richest Alumni
In-Reply-To: <001b01cc1054$da8cf570$8fa6e050$@com>
References: <BANLkTinzMkfsjYnajP9LwfGJM4S6aM=Q9w@mail.gmail.com><001b01cc1054$da8cf570$8fa6e050$@com>
Message-ID: <2021281722-1305197545-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-2114332373-@bda2184.bisx.prod.on.blackberry>

That may be, but Lester Crown got a nice head start from his father Henry

Harry
Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry

-----Original Message-----
From: "Roy S. Lamberton" <rstetson at capps-assoc.com>
Sender: nwu-sports-bounces at tssi.com
Date: Wed, 11 May 2011 23:29:50 
To: 'Sportsbiz'<sportsbiz at gmail.com>; <nwu-sports at tssi.com>
Subject: Re: [NU Sports] Big Ten's Richest Alumni

Of all the richest Alums, only one - the Cargill guy from Minny - inherited his wealth.

The rest did it the old fashioned way

rsl 

++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
Roy S. Lamberton - Senior Associate & Unix Guru.
Computer Applications & Support Associates
-------------------- Also ----------------------
"Commissioner" Delaware American Legion Baseball
Director Media Relations - Little League 
  Senior League Softball World Series
CTR2 USN (67-70) - CTRCS USNR (Ret) (64-67/70-95)
Northwestern University - Speech 1974 - 
Chi Phi: Pi 1974, KD 1968
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From: nwu-sports-bounces at tssi.com [mailto:nwu-sports-bounces at tssi.com] On Behalf Of
Sportsbiz
Sent: Wednesday, May 11, 2011 7:56 PM
To: nwu-sports at tssi.com
Subject: [NU Sports] Big Ten's Richest Alumni

Here's a list I came across of the so-called richest alum from each member
school, together with richest athlete.  I don't vouch for its accuracy, but
do note that I believe Neil Bluhm, the fellow listed for Illinois, holds a
law degree from NU.


http://www.businessinsider.com/richest-alumni-big-ten-2011-4

Mark


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From Jeff.Beamsley at covisint.com  Thu May 12 07:06:13 2011
From: Jeff.Beamsley at covisint.com (Beamsley, Jeff)
Date: Thu, 12 May 2011 08:06:13 -0400
Subject: [NU Sports] Big Ten's Richest Alumni
In-Reply-To: <001b01cc1054$da8cf570$8fa6e050$@com>
References: <BANLkTinzMkfsjYnajP9LwfGJM4S6aM=Q9w@mail.gmail.com>
 <001b01cc1054$da8cf570$8fa6e050$@com>
Message-ID: <40AE8006-D693-4227-9C67-AABEF151C192@covisint.com>

They stole it?

Sent from my iPhone

On May 11, 2011, at 11:30 PM, "Roy S. Lamberton" <rstetson at capps-assoc.com> wrote:

> Of all the richest Alums, only one - the Cargill guy from Minny - inherited his wealth.
> 
> The rest did it the old fashioned way
> 
> rsl 
> 
> ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
> Roy S. Lamberton - Senior Associate & Unix Guru.
> Computer Applications & Support Associates
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> "Commissioner" Delaware American Legion Baseball
> Director Media Relations - Little League 
>  Senior League Softball World Series
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> Northwestern University - Speech 1974 - 
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> Sent: Wednesday, May 11, 2011 7:56 PM
> To: nwu-sports at tssi.com
> Subject: [NU Sports] Big Ten's Richest Alumni
> 
> Here's a list I came across of the so-called richest alum from each member
> school, together with richest athlete.  I don't vouch for its accuracy, but
> do note that I believe Neil Bluhm, the fellow listed for Illinois, holds a
> law degree from NU.
> 
> 
> http://www.businessinsider.com/richest-alumni-big-ten-2011-4
> 
> Mark
> 
> 
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From bevormary at gmail.com  Thu May 12 07:58:04 2011
From: bevormary at gmail.com (Rosemary Morris)
Date: Thu, 12 May 2011 07:58:04 -0500
Subject: [NU Sports] LSU baseball signs former Northwestern star
Message-ID: <BANLkTi=oKOV5--jiJukFxFMxD6X2tYV4=g@mail.gmail.com>

I was surprised to see this article in the Baton Rouge paper.  Being
from Louisiana I check out the paper each day.

http://www.2theadvocate.com/sports/LSU-baseball-signs-former-Northwestern-star.html


"Fields played baseball and football at Northwestern University in
Evanston, Ill., and was the Wildcats starting tailback in 2009. After
the 2010 season, Fields decided to focus only on baseball and
transferred to Cypress College in Cypress, Calif."

Rosemary Morris
Austin


From rstetson at capps-assoc.com  Thu May 12 08:58:13 2011
From: rstetson at capps-assoc.com (Roy S. Lamberton)
Date: Thu, 12 May 2011 09:58:13 -0400
Subject: [NU Sports] Tank McNamara: Think the Red Shirt means anything?
Message-ID: <001401cc10ac$a2af2b70$e80d8250$@com>

http://wpcomics.washingtonpost.com/client/wpc/tm/


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Director Media Relations - Little League 
  Senior League Softball World Series
CTR2 USN (67-70) - CTRCS USNR (Ret) (64-67/70-95)
Northwestern University - Speech 1974 - 
Chi Phi: Pi 1974, KD 1968
Publisher Emeritus: Purple Reign (Fox Sports)
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From thehaze at earthlink.net  Thu May 12 10:57:18 2011
From: thehaze at earthlink.net (Jim Bendat)
Date: Thu, 12 May 2011 08:57:18 -0700 (GMT-07:00)
Subject: [NU Sports] Mariotti
Message-ID: <32795737.1305215838810.JavaMail.root@wamui-cynical.atl.sa.earthlink.net>

Actually, he was arrested on April 14, posted 10% of $50,000 bail for his court appearance yesterday. DA filed lots of extra charges against him. Judge raised his bail to $250,000 and remanded him in court. a couple of hours later, he bailed out again on 10% of the $250,000. Next court date is June 1. Pure schaudenfraude indeed.

-----Original Message-----
>From: MHRJGScott at aol.com
>Sent: May 11, 2011 4:50 PM
>To: nwu-sports at tssi.com
>Subject: [NU Sports] Mariotti
>
>Busted again, jail this time
> 
>_http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/lat-former-espn-personality-jay-mariotti
>-charged-with-felony-stalking-and-assault-20110511,0,1666485.story_ 
>(http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/lat-former-espn-personality-jay-mariotti-charged
>-with-felony-stalking-and-assault-20110511,0,1666485.story) 
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From MHRJGScott at aol.com  Thu May 12 13:14:00 2011
From: MHRJGScott at aol.com (MHRJGScott at aol.com)
Date: Thu, 12 May 2011 14:14:00 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: [NU Sports] LSU baseball signs former Northwestern star
Message-ID: <309a0.53d561bb.3afd7d68@aol.com>

Good luck to Arby, I saw him play for NU against Stetson, baseball at LSU  
is top notch, I used to live right next to the baseball field at Tulane and 
the  home series with LSU was always the best.

From AJWDBW at aol.com  Thu May 12 15:10:17 2011
From: AJWDBW at aol.com (AJWDBW at aol.com)
Date: Thu, 12 May 2011 16:10:17 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: [NU Sports] Big Ten's Richest Alumni
Message-ID: <6fa45.18c40565.3afd98a9@aol.com>

I thought inheriting your money was the good old fashioned American  way.
Don Williams
C55
 
 
In a message dated 5/12/2011 7:07:16 A.M. Central Daylight Time,  
Jeff.Beamsley at covisint.com writes:

The rest  did it the old fashioned way


From MHRJGScott at aol.com  Thu May 12 17:21:26 2011
From: MHRJGScott at aol.com (MHRJGScott at aol.com)
Date: Thu, 12 May 2011 18:21:26 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: [NU Sports] Big Ten's Richest Alumni
Message-ID: <37bb9.7303daa3.3afdb766@aol.com>

I thought inheriting your money was the good old fashioned American   way.
Don Williams
C55

That was the Smith Barney slogan before primerica bought them with debt and 
 merged shearson and travelers into citigroup which Sandy Weil used to 
promote  the junk which almost brought down our economy, Morgan Stanley then 
bought some  of that stuff at a fire sale. Why aren't those guys in  Jail?

From artmiller1 at gmail.com  Thu May 12 18:38:52 2011
From: artmiller1 at gmail.com (Arthur Miller)
Date: Thu, 12 May 2011 18:38:52 -0500
Subject: [NU Sports] Big Ten's Richest Alumni
In-Reply-To: <37bb9.7303daa3.3afdb766@aol.com>
References: <37bb9.7303daa3.3afdb766@aol.com>
Message-ID: <BANLkTi=TWLmCf+yBMo6nPSyzRt+GkN382g@mail.gmail.com>

Awesome, another political discussion!  These are always so much fun.




On Thu, May 12, 2011 at 5:21 PM, <MHRJGScott at aol.com> wrote:

> I thought inheriting your money was the good old fashioned American   way.
> Don Williams
> C55
>
> That was the Smith Barney slogan before primerica bought them with debt and
>  merged shearson and travelers into citigroup which Sandy Weil used to
> promote  the junk which almost brought down our economy, Morgan Stanley
> then
> bought some  of that stuff at a fire sale. Why aren't those guys in  Jail?
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From michael.vance at att.net  Fri May 13 10:04:29 2011
From: michael.vance at att.net (Michael Vance)
Date: Fri, 13 May 2011 11:04:29 -0400
Subject: [NU Sports] Big Ten's Richest Alumni
In-Reply-To: <001b01cc1054$da8cf570$8fa6e050$@com>
References: <BANLkTinzMkfsjYnajP9LwfGJM4S6aM=Q9w@mail.gmail.com>
 <001b01cc1054$da8cf570$8fa6e050$@com>
Message-ID: <69C675F9-F878-4F23-9B8F-A33F8DFD1406@att.net>

I had never heard of the woman from OSU, but I find it difficult to imagine that someone that young could amass over $4B through real estate without some seed money. Does anyone know her story?

-Michael
Sent from my mobile device...

On May 11, 2011, at 11:29 PM, "Roy S. Lamberton" <rstetson at capps-assoc.com> wrote:

> Of all the richest Alums, only one - the Cargill guy from Minny - inherited his wealth.
> 
> The rest did it the old fashioned way
> 
> rsl 
> 
> ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
> Roy S. Lamberton - Senior Associate & Unix Guru.
> Computer Applications & Support Associates
> -------------------- Also ----------------------
> "Commissioner" Delaware American Legion Baseball
> Director Media Relations - Little League 
>  Senior League Softball World Series
> CTR2 USN (67-70) - CTRCS USNR (Ret) (64-67/70-95)
> Northwestern University - Speech 1974 - 
> Chi Phi: Pi 1974, KD 1968
> Publisher Emeritus: Purple Reign (Fox Sports)
> ================================================
> Opinions expressed above are mine alone and are not
> those of any organizations of which I am a member.
> ------------------------------------------------
> illigitimis non carborundum - 
>                Gen "Vinegar" Joe Stillwell, USA
> ==========  Go Cats -  Beat 'em All  ===========
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: nwu-sports-bounces at tssi.com [mailto:nwu-sports-bounces at tssi.com] On Behalf Of
> Sportsbiz
> Sent: Wednesday, May 11, 2011 7:56 PM
> To: nwu-sports at tssi.com
> Subject: [NU Sports] Big Ten's Richest Alumni
> 
> Here's a list I came across of the so-called richest alum from each member
> school, together with richest athlete.  I don't vouch for its accuracy, but
> do note that I believe Neil Bluhm, the fellow listed for Illinois, holds a
> law degree from NU.
> 
> 
> http://www.businessinsider.com/richest-alumni-big-ten-2011-4
> 
> Mark
> 
> 
> -- 
> *Mark S. Ament*
> sportsbiz at gmail.com
> SportsBiz - The Business of Sports
> Illuminated<http://thesportsbizblog.blogspot.com>
> When it comes to sports, you know it's all about the money
> Follow me on Twitter <http://www.twitter.com/msament>
> 
> 
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From MHRJGScott at aol.com  Fri May 13 11:07:21 2011
From: MHRJGScott at aol.com (MHRJGScott at aol.com)
Date: Fri, 13 May 2011 12:07:21 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: [NU Sports] Big Ten's Richest Alumni
Message-ID: <aaa3f.17b54ce6.3afeb139@aol.com>

I had never heard of the woman from OSU, but I find it difficult to imagine 
 that someone that young could amass over $4B through real estate without 
some  seed money. Does anyone know her story?

-Michael
Sent from my mobile  device...


We had a guy running for governor here in Florida who made 5B$ in real  
estate, of course he sold it short, he lost to a guy who made only a couple  
billion $ stealing from medicare. In other Florida news, I just saw Darren  
Rovell interviewing Luke Donald at the Players, couple NU guys at the top of  
their games.

From scottzel at gmail.com  Fri May 13 14:47:47 2011
From: scottzel at gmail.com (Scott Zeller, M.D.)
Date: Fri, 13 May 2011 12:47:47 -0700
Subject: [NU Sports] Big Ten's Richest Alumni
In-Reply-To: <69C675F9-F878-4F23-9B8F-A33F8DFD1406@att.net>
References: <BANLkTinzMkfsjYnajP9LwfGJM4S6aM=Q9w@mail.gmail.com>
 <001b01cc1054$da8cf570$8fa6e050$@com>
 <69C675F9-F878-4F23-9B8F-A33F8DFD1406@att.net>
Message-ID: <BANLkTin982388C3dGLUw7OB-PVrWO_1zYg@mail.gmail.com>

It was easy -- she just followed "the system" she learned after going to a
FREE seminar at the Airport Holiday Inn. She learned about the seminar on
late-night TV. YOU can make a fortune in real estate too! Act now!

On Fri, May 13, 2011 at 8:04 AM, Michael Vance <michael.vance at att.net>wrote:

> I had never heard of the woman from OSU, but I find it difficult to imagine
> that someone that young could amass over $4B through real estate without
> some seed money. Does anyone know her story?
>
> -Michael
> Sent from my mobile device...
>
> On May 11, 2011, at 11:29 PM, "Roy S. Lamberton" <rstetson at capps-assoc.com>
> wrote:
>
> > Of all the richest Alums, only one - the Cargill guy from Minny -
> inherited his wealth.
> >
> > The rest did it the old fashioned way
> >
> > rsl
> >
> > ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
> > Roy S. Lamberton - Senior Associate & Unix Guru.
> > Computer Applications & Support Associates
> > -------------------- Also ----------------------
> > "Commissioner" Delaware American Legion Baseball
> > Director Media Relations - Little League
> >  Senior League Softball World Series
> > CTR2 USN (67-70) - CTRCS USNR (Ret) (64-67/70-95)
> > Northwestern University - Speech 1974 -
> > Chi Phi: Pi 1974, KD 1968
> > Publisher Emeritus: Purple Reign (Fox Sports)
> > ================================================
> > Opinions expressed above are mine alone and are not
> > those of any organizations of which I am a member.
> > ------------------------------------------------
> > illigitimis non carborundum -
> >                Gen "Vinegar" Joe Stillwell, USA
> > ==========  Go Cats -  Beat 'em All  ===========
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: nwu-sports-bounces at tssi.com [mailto:nwu-sports-bounces at tssi.com]
> On Behalf Of
> > Sportsbiz
> > Sent: Wednesday, May 11, 2011 7:56 PM
> > To: nwu-sports at tssi.com
> > Subject: [NU Sports] Big Ten's Richest Alumni
> >
> > Here's a list I came across of the so-called richest alum from each
> member
> > school, together with richest athlete.  I don't vouch for its accuracy,
> but
> > do note that I believe Neil Bluhm, the fellow listed for Illinois, holds
> a
> > law degree from NU.
> >
> >
> > http://www.businessinsider.com/richest-alumni-big-ten-2011-4
> >
> > Mark
> >
> >
> > --
> > *Mark S. Ament*
> > sportsbiz at gmail.com
> > SportsBiz - The Business of Sports
> > Illuminated<http://thesportsbizblog.blogspot.com>
> > When it comes to sports, you know it's all about the money
> > Follow me on Twitter <http://www.twitter.com/msament>
> >
> >
> > *
> > *
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> > nwu-sports at tssi.com
> > http://romaine.tssi.com/mailman/listinfo/nwu-sports
> >
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From rstetson at capps-assoc.com  Fri May 13 16:39:23 2011
From: rstetson at capps-assoc.com (Roy S. Lamberton)
Date: Fri, 13 May 2011 17:39:23 -0400
Subject: [NU Sports] Big Ten's Richest Alumni
In-Reply-To: <BANLkTin982388C3dGLUw7OB-PVrWO_1zYg@mail.gmail.com>
References: <BANLkTinzMkfsjYnajP9LwfGJM4S6aM=Q9w@mail.gmail.com>
 <001b01cc1054$da8cf570$8fa6e050$@com>
 <69C675F9-F878-4F23-9B8F-A33F8DFD1406@att.net>
 <BANLkTin982388C3dGLUw7OB-PVrWO_1zYg@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <001801cc11b6$3a0751a0$ae15f4e0$@com>

I didn't get all that....

Please remove your tongue from your cheek and repeat?

<G>

rsl

++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
Roy S. Lamberton - Senior Associate & Unix Guru.
Computer Applications & Support Associates
-------------------- Also ----------------------
"Commissioner" Delaware American Legion Baseball
Director Media Relations - Little League 
  Senior League Softball World Series
CTR2 USN (67-70) - CTRCS USNR (Ret) (64-67/70-95)
Northwestern University - Speech 1974 - 
Chi Phi: Pi 1974, KD 1968
Publisher Emeritus: Purple Reign (Fox Sports)
================================================
Opinions expressed above are mine alone and are not
those of any organizations of which I am a member.
------------------------------------------------
We the people of the United States, in order to 
form a more perfect union, establish justice, 
insure domestic tranquility, provide for the 
common defense, promote the general welfare, 
and secure the blessings of liberty to ourselves 
and our posterity, do ordain and establish 
this Constitution for the United States of America.
==========  Go Cats -? Beat 'em All  ===========


-----Original Message-----
From: nwu-sports-bounces at tssi.com [mailto:nwu-sports-bounces at tssi.com] On Behalf Of Scott
Zeller, M.D.
Sent: Friday, May 13, 2011 3:48 PM
To: <nwu-sports at tssi.com>
Subject: Re: [NU Sports] Big Ten's Richest Alumni

It was easy -- she just followed "the system" she learned after going to a
FREE seminar at the Airport Holiday Inn. She learned about the seminar on
late-night TV. YOU can make a fortune in real estate too! Act now!

On Fri, May 13, 2011 at 8:04 AM, Michael Vance <michael.vance at att.net>wrote:

> I had never heard of the woman from OSU, but I find it difficult to imagine
> that someone that young could amass over $4B through real estate without
> some seed money. Does anyone know her story?
>
> -Michael
> Sent from my mobile device...
>
> On May 11, 2011, at 11:29 PM, "Roy S. Lamberton" <rstetson at capps-assoc.com>
> wrote:
>
> > Of all the richest Alums, only one - the Cargill guy from Minny -
> inherited his wealth.
> >
> > The rest did it the old fashioned way
> >
> > rsl
> >
> > ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
> > Roy S. Lamberton - Senior Associate & Unix Guru.
> > Computer Applications & Support Associates
> > -------------------- Also ----------------------
> > "Commissioner" Delaware American Legion Baseball
> > Director Media Relations - Little League
> >  Senior League Softball World Series
> > CTR2 USN (67-70) - CTRCS USNR (Ret) (64-67/70-95)
> > Northwestern University - Speech 1974 -
> > Chi Phi: Pi 1974, KD 1968
> > Publisher Emeritus: Purple Reign (Fox Sports)
> > ================================================
> > Opinions expressed above are mine alone and are not
> > those of any organizations of which I am a member.
> > ------------------------------------------------
> > illigitimis non carborundum -
> >                Gen "Vinegar" Joe Stillwell, USA
> > ==========  Go Cats -  Beat 'em All  ===========
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: nwu-sports-bounces at tssi.com [mailto:nwu-sports-bounces at tssi.com]
> On Behalf Of
> > Sportsbiz
> > Sent: Wednesday, May 11, 2011 7:56 PM
> > To: nwu-sports at tssi.com
> > Subject: [NU Sports] Big Ten's Richest Alumni
> >
> > Here's a list I came across of the so-called richest alum from each
> member
> > school, together with richest athlete.  I don't vouch for its accuracy,
> but
> > do note that I believe Neil Bluhm, the fellow listed for Illinois, holds
> a
> > law degree from NU.
> >
> >
> > http://www.businessinsider.com/richest-alumni-big-ten-2011-4
> >
> > Mark
> >
> >
> > --
> > *Mark S. Ament*
> > sportsbiz at gmail.com
> > SportsBiz - The Business of Sports
> > Illuminated<http://thesportsbizblog.blogspot.com>
> > When it comes to sports, you know it's all about the money
> > Follow me on Twitter <http://www.twitter.com/msament>
> >
> >
> > *
> > *
> > _______________________________________________
> > nwu-sports site list
> > nwu-sports at tssi.com
> > http://romaine.tssi.com/mailman/listinfo/nwu-sports
> >
> > _______________________________________________
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> > nwu-sports at tssi.com
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>
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From rstetson at capps-assoc.com  Fri May 13 17:16:22 2011
From: rstetson at capps-assoc.com (Roy S. Lamberton)
Date: Fri, 13 May 2011 18:16:22 -0400
Subject: [NU Sports] so you want to know about how Yang Huiyan got so rich?
Message-ID: <002201cc11bb$64842480$2d8c6d80$@com>

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yang_Huiyan

Says that her Daddy gave here 70% of the shares in his biz before the IPO.  He was the
wealthiest Chinese the year before.


and this is how she lost a bundle:
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/asia/china/3178132/How-Chinas-richest-woman-Yang
-Huiyan-lost-two-thirds-of-her-fortune-as-markets-crashed.html

According to the Daily Mail: 
But her status as the country's richest female hasn't made her a heroine for Chinese
women. The fact that she inherited her fortune means most regard her simply as a very
lucky woman with a very rich father.

And daddy didn't even ask if I wanted a small percentage... must be my dOSU comments.

rsl

++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
Roy S. Lamberton - Senior Associate & Unix Guru.
Computer Applications & Support Associates
-------------------- Also ----------------------
"Commissioner" Delaware American Legion Baseball
Director Media Relations - Little League 
  Senior League Softball World Series
CTR2 USN (67-70) - CTRCS USNR (Ret) (64-67/70-95)
Northwestern University - Speech 1974 - 
Chi Phi: Pi 1974, KD 1968
Publisher Emeritus: Purple Reign (Fox Sports)
================================================
Opinions expressed above are mine alone and are not
those of any organizations of which I am a member.
------------------------------------------------
We the people of the United States, in order to 
form a more perfect union, establish justice, 
insure domestic tranquility, provide for the 
common defense, promote the general welfare, 
and secure the blessings of liberty to ourselves 
and our posterity, do ordain and establish 
this Constitution for the United States of America.
==========  Go Cats -? Beat 'em All  ===========





From alan.abrahamson at gmail.com  Fri May 13 17:36:03 2011
From: alan.abrahamson at gmail.com (Alan Abrahamson)
Date: Fri, 13 May 2011 15:36:03 -0700
Subject: [NU Sports] so you want to know about how Yang Huiyan got so
	rich?
In-Reply-To: <002201cc11bb$64842480$2d8c6d80$@com>
References: <002201cc11bb$64842480$2d8c6d80$@com>
Message-ID: <BANLkTikZ=nxubc+9rcsYmaQdi7_cRY8tag@mail.gmail.com>

Don't take it personally, Coach Roy. I grew up in Ohio and have been to
China several of times to get ready for the Olympics and then to cover the
Games. So, like, whatever.

On Fri, May 13, 2011 at 3:16 PM, Roy S. Lamberton
<rstetson at capps-assoc.com>wrote:

> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yang_Huiyan
>
> Says that her Daddy gave here 70% of the shares in his biz before the IPO.
>  He was the
> wealthiest Chinese the year before.
>
>
> and this is how she lost a bundle:
>
> http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/asia/china/3178132/How-Chinas-richest-woman-Yang
> -Huiyan-lost-two-thirds-of-her-fortune-as-markets-crashed.html
>
> According to the Daily Mail:
> But her status as the country's richest female hasn't made her a heroine
> for Chinese
> women. The fact that she inherited her fortune means most regard her simply
> as a very
> lucky woman with a very rich father.
>
> And daddy didn't even ask if I wanted a small percentage... must be my dOSU
> comments.
>
> rsl
>
> ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
> Roy S. Lamberton - Senior Associate & Unix Guru.
> Computer Applications & Support Associates
> -------------------- Also ----------------------
> "Commissioner" Delaware American Legion Baseball
> Director Media Relations - Little League
>  Senior League Softball World Series
> CTR2 USN (67-70) - CTRCS USNR (Ret) (64-67/70-95)
> Northwestern University - Speech 1974 -
> Chi Phi: Pi 1974, KD 1968
> Publisher Emeritus: Purple Reign (Fox Sports)
> ================================================
> Opinions expressed above are mine alone and are not
> those of any organizations of which I am a member.
> ------------------------------------------------
> We the people of the United States, in order to
> form a more perfect union, establish justice,
> insure domestic tranquility, provide for the
> common defense, promote the general welfare,
> and secure the blessings of liberty to ourselves
> and our posterity, do ordain and establish
> this Constitution for the United States of America.
> ==========  Go Cats -  Beat 'em All  ===========
>
>
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> nwu-sports site list
> nwu-sports at tssi.com
> http://romaine.tssi.com/mailman/listinfo/nwu-sports
>

From Willie.Weinbaum at espn.com  Sun May 15 08:03:34 2011
From: Willie.Weinbaum at espn.com (Weinbaum, Willie)
Date: Sun, 15 May 2011 09:03:34 -0400
Subject: [NU Sports] so much for "charmed" life
In-Reply-To: <2666a.46b716a0.3afc848f@aol.com>
References: <2666a.46b716a0.3afc848f@aol.com>
Message-ID: <1F89BB2CE7A5B94D969618E8CC769CC36AA664D6@XCHGBRS4.corp.espn.pvt>

http://www.dispatch.com/live/content/sports/stories/2011/05/15/trinket-troubles.html?sid=101


From rstetson at capps-assoc.com  Tue May 17 14:40:15 2011
From: rstetson at capps-assoc.com (Roy S. Lamberton)
Date: Tue, 17 May 2011 15:40:15 -0400
Subject: [NU Sports] NFF Hall of Fame Class
Message-ID: <000d01cc14ca$410779a0$c3166ce0$@com>

This year's group includes two coaches who are not on NU's Most Loved list:

Lloyd Carr (UM) and 
Fisher DeBerry (AF)

DeBerry was the head guy when Air Force took out our Senior Linebacker Pat Durr in 2002
with a sequence of chop blocks (supposedly illegal in college football at the time). The
next year, Fitz and Peterson got into it with a couple of Air Farce players on the
sidelines after another "questionable play" by the Cadets.

I won't say any more about Lloyd Carr than Truog is already thinking.

rsl


++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
Roy S. Lamberton - Senior Associate & Unix Guru.
Computer Applications & Support Associates
-------------------- Also ----------------------
"Commissioner" Delaware American Legion Baseball
Director Media Relations - Little League 
  Senior League Softball World Series
CTR2 USN (67-70) - CTRCS USNR (Ret) (64-67/70-95)
Northwestern University - Speech 1974 - 
Chi Phi: Pi 1974, KD 1968
Publisher Emeritus: Purple Reign (Fox Sports)
================================================
Opinions expressed above are mine alone and are not
those of any organizations of which I am a member.
------------------------------------------------
We the people of the United States, in order to 
form a more perfect union, establish justice, 
insure domestic tranquility, provide for the 
common defense, promote the general welfare, 
and secure the blessings of liberty to ourselves 
and our posterity, do ordain and establish 
this Constitution for the United States of America.
==========  Go Cats -? Beat 'em All  ===========





From Jeff.Beamsley at covisint.com  Tue May 17 15:02:49 2011
From: Jeff.Beamsley at covisint.com (Beamsley, Jeff)
Date: Tue, 17 May 2011 16:02:49 -0400
Subject: [NU Sports] NFF Hall of Fame Class
In-Reply-To: <000d01cc14ca$410779a0$c3166ce0$@com>
References: <000d01cc14ca$410779a0$c3166ce0$@com>
Message-ID: <FA7822545C26F244823CA5D312ABBDEA0739A26B@nasa-dtw-ex006.nasa.cpwr.corp>

I think Carr deserves to be there.  

He did win a national championship with a team that had a perfect 12-0 season after all and as far as I recall was never in any trouble with the NCAA.

Jeff


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From: nwu-sports-bounces at tssi.com [mailto:nwu-sports-bounces at tssi.com] On Behalf Of Roy S. Lamberton
Sent: Tuesday, May 17, 2011 3:40 PM
To: nwu-sports at tssi.com
Subject: [NU Sports] NFF Hall of Fame Class

This year's group includes two coaches who are not on NU's Most Loved list:

Lloyd Carr (UM) and 
Fisher DeBerry (AF)

DeBerry was the head guy when Air Force took out our Senior Linebacker Pat Durr in 2002
with a sequence of chop blocks (supposedly illegal in college football at the time). The
next year, Fitz and Peterson got into it with a couple of Air Farce players on the
sidelines after another "questionable play" by the Cadets.

I won't say any more about Lloyd Carr than Truog is already thinking.

rsl


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Director Media Relations - Little League 
  Senior League Softball World Series
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From rstetson at capps-assoc.com  Tue May 17 17:37:30 2011
From: rstetson at capps-assoc.com (Roy S. Lamberton)
Date: Tue, 17 May 2011 18:37:30 -0400
Subject: [NU Sports] Carr on "enforcement"
Message-ID: <000001cc14e3$0231eda0$0695c8e0$@com>

http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories/F/FBC_CARR_NCAA?SITE=WBAL&SECTION=SPORTS&TEMPLATE=DEF
AULT



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Computer Applications & Support Associates
-------------------- Also ----------------------
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Director Media Relations - Little League 
  Senior League Softball World Series
CTR2 USN (67-70) - CTRCS USNR (Ret) (64-67/70-95)
Northwestern University - Speech 1974 - 
Chi Phi: Pi 1974, KD 1968
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================================================
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------------------------------------------------
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common defense, promote the general welfare, 
and secure the blessings of liberty to ourselves 
and our posterity, do ordain and establish 
this Constitution for the United States of America.
==========  Go Cats -? Beat 'em All  ===========




From sjtruog at yahoo.com  Tue May 17 18:43:56 2011
From: sjtruog at yahoo.com (SjT (Stephen J. Truog))
Date: Tue, 17 May 2011 16:43:56 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [NU Sports] NFF Hall of Fame Class
In-Reply-To: <000d01cc14ca$410779a0$c3166ce0$@com>
Message-ID: <123428.25323.qm@web121711.mail.ne1.yahoo.com>

> I won't say any more about Lloyd Carr than Truog is already
> thinking.

Hey, I don't have that much against Lloyd - he did win a title in Ann Arbor and ran a pretty classy program. I actually felt kind of bad for him at the end being bounced out and think Michigan learned their lesson about being greedy with the hot-shot flavor-of-the-month coaches. Lloyd's final game where is rag-tag group got into the faces of the Gatorthugs and took it right to St. Urban's team in their home state had me standing up and cheering. Especially when Lloyd's rivals in Columbus ran and hid from the SEC's talk and rep ... he faced them head on with no fear and won.

I do think that overall, Lloyd's team underachieved a bit with all his talent - he usually did well in big games, but lost some games he shouldn't have each year and with all that talent, Michigan grew restless.

My other jab at Lloyd had to do with his grumpy/whiny demeanor -- pregame press all week, during the game at the refs and in postgame conferences. The cruel twist is that when Lloyd SHOULD have whined to make his case, he didn't, and it cost him. In 2007, Michigan was #2 and lost a close game at #1 OSU to end the season. They were still #3 the next two weeks of rankings and then #2 lost, so they should get another shot ... right?

Lloyd tried to stay classy and leave it in the hands of the moronic B(C)S formula and the idiot press that was just starting to buy into the SEC hype. Urban Meyer whined and whined for two weeks about getting a shot with his team, who had been handled at Auburn earlier in the season. In their two games after Michigan ended the year ranked ahead of them, Florida barely scraped by an unranked 6-win FSU team and had a sloppy win over an Arkansas team that had opened the year losing to USC 14-50 and backed into the SEC title game despite losing to LSU.

But those two less-than-impressive wins were somehow enough to vault whining Urban's Gators from #4 to #2 over a Michigan team that had not lost a game in those two weeks and had a resume of beating then-#2 Notre Dame by 26 points in South Bend and 11-1 Wisconsin and falling to #1 OSU by only 3 points in Columbus.

So I kind of felt bad for Lloyd after that as well. The one time he should have been out their politicking and making Michigan's case and he didn't! 

But I digress ... good for Lloyd getting into the hall. I dunno if I'll be lining up to hear his speech, though.:)

* * * * * * * * *
STEPHEN J. TRUOG
sjtruog at yahoo.com
GO CATS!!! GEAUX SAINTS!!!
Super Bowl XLIV Champions!
==========================


From jleonard518 at yahoo.com  Wed May 18 14:24:57 2011
From: jleonard518 at yahoo.com (Jim Leonard)
Date: Wed, 18 May 2011 12:24:57 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [NU Sports] Wisconsin RB
Message-ID: <781169.7497.qm@web36801.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

Apparently this guy has one year left and can transfer immediately. I'm sure 
Fitz will want to "stick with his guys" but if he can have an impact in 2011 I 
hope someone at least talks to him. I'm hoping for big things from Trumpy but we 
need all the help we can get at RB.

Go Cats!
Jim

http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/news/story?id=6560754


From sportsbiz at gmail.com  Wed May 18 18:15:22 2011
From: sportsbiz at gmail.com (Sportsbiz)
Date: Wed, 18 May 2011 19:15:22 -0400
Subject: [NU Sports] ACC-Big Ten Challenge
Message-ID: <BANLkTi=ShJaE3qJg4KfQXetHYqOz6UZ25A@mail.gmail.com>

The ACC-Big Ten Challenge matchups have been set and we are heading to
Atlanta for a rematch with Georgia Tech on Tuesday, November 29.  It will be
a homecoming for JerShon Cobb and a reunion with new Jackets coach and
former NU assistant Brian Gregory.

In other matchups on Tuesday, Duke goes to OSU, Miami at Purdue, Illinois at
Maryland, Michigan at UVa and Clemson at Iowa.  On Wednesday,Wisconsin hosts
UNC, Indiana at NC State, Penn State at Boston College, Florida State at
Michigan State, Va Tech at Minny and welcome to the Big Ten, UNL host Wake
Forest, last year's worst BCS bball team.

Should be fun again this fall, as we have a very winnable game, the headline
games should be fun to watch and the Big Ten should have a good chance to
keep the trophy.

Mark

-- 
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From j-hodges at alumni.northwestern.edu  Wed May 18 19:17:26 2011
From: j-hodges at alumni.northwestern.edu (Jonathan Hodges)
Date: Wed, 18 May 2011 19:17:26 -0500
Subject: [NU Sports] BTN/Cable Question
Message-ID: <BANLkTinG7EchHaK-A6zyh-Mz8zfJxA2xtA@mail.gmail.com>

For anyone that lives outside of the "Big Ten footprint" who has Comcast:

Do the overflow channels come with the Big Ten Network on the Sports &
Entertainment Package?  I asked Comcast and they didn't seem to have a
definite answer.  (I'm moving to Maryland - DC suburbs).

Thanks & Go 'Cats!!!

-- 
Jonathan W. Hodges
Contributor, HailToPurple
Web: http://www.hailtopurple.com/jhodges/
Twitter: @hailtopurple
Email: j-hodges at alumni.northwestern.edu

From Willie.Weinbaum at espn.com  Thu May 19 06:07:01 2011
From: Willie.Weinbaum at espn.com (Weinbaum, Willie)
Date: Thu, 19 May 2011 07:07:01 -0400
Subject: [NU Sports] FW: 8:50a all time zones, NBC Today - story on NU Alum
Message-ID: <1F89BB2CE7A5B94D969618E8CC769CC36AA66608@XCHGBRS4.corp.espn.pvt>

http://today.msnbc.msn.com/id/42590729/ns/today-today_people/

From rstetson at capps-assoc.com  Thu May 19 08:03:07 2011
From: rstetson at capps-assoc.com (Roy S. Lamberton)
Date: Thu, 19 May 2011 09:03:07 -0400
Subject: [NU Sports] FW: 8:50a all time zones,
	NBC Today - story on NU Alum
In-Reply-To: <1F89BB2CE7A5B94D969618E8CC769CC36AA66608@XCHGBRS4.corp.espn.pvt>
References: <1F89BB2CE7A5B94D969618E8CC769CC36AA66608@XCHGBRS4.corp.espn.pvt>
Message-ID: <00f801cc1625$199a5ed0$4ccf1c70$@com>

"Now, at 31, he?s set himself a new goal: He wants to be the go-to guy for difficult
patients ? the patients everyone else is having trouble with."

Thanks to him, and guys like him, we have soldiers requalifying for the service even after
losing limbs. When I first saw amputees playing basketball or running, I was skeptical,
but the dreams of WW II guys like Hank Viscardi are finally coming true for just about
everyone who suffers an amputation and want to continue their life.

An amazing man from an amazing family.

rsl



++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
Roy S. Lamberton - Senior Associate & Unix Guru.
Computer Applications & Support Associates
-------------------- Also ----------------------
"Commissioner" Delaware American Legion Baseball
Director Media Relations - Little League 
  Senior League Softball World Series
CTR2 USN (67-70) - CTRCS USNR (Ret) (64-67/70-95)
Northwestern University - Speech 1974 - 
Chi Phi: Pi 1974, KD 1968
Publisher Emeritus: Purple Reign (Fox Sports)
================================================
Opinions expressed above are mine alone and are not
those of any organizations of which I am a member.
------------------------------------------------
We the people of the United States, in order to 
form a more perfect union, establish justice, 
insure domestic tranquility, provide for the 
common defense, promote the general welfare, 
and secure the blessings of liberty to ourselves 
and our posterity, do ordain and establish 
this Constitution for the United States of America.
==========  Go Cats -? Beat 'em All  ===========



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From rstetson at capps-assoc.com  Thu May 19 09:37:09 2011
From: rstetson at capps-assoc.com (Roy S. Lamberton)
Date: Thu, 19 May 2011 10:37:09 -0400
Subject: [NU Sports] Hardy now #2
Message-ID: <00ff01cc1632$3c166be0$b44343a0$@com>

Tavaras gets promoted to #2 slow after BC.

http://nusports.cstv.com/sports/m-baskbl/spec-rel/051911aaa.html


His ability speaks for itself, but now maybe BC can entice Jitim to the sidelines in
Evanston?

rsl

++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
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Computer Applications & Support Associates
-------------------- Also ----------------------
"Commissioner" Delaware American Legion Baseball
Director Media Relations - Little League 
  Senior League Softball World Series
CTR2 USN (67-70) - CTRCS USNR (Ret) (64-67/70-95)
Northwestern University - Speech 1974 - 
Chi Phi: Pi 1974, KD 1968
Publisher Emeritus: Purple Reign (Fox Sports)
================================================
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those of any organizations of which I am a member.
------------------------------------------------
We the people of the United States, in order to 
form a more perfect union, establish justice, 
insure domestic tranquility, provide for the 
common defense, promote the general welfare, 
and secure the blessings of liberty to ourselves 
and our posterity, do ordain and establish 
this Constitution for the United States of America.
==========  Go Cats -? Beat 'em All  ===========





From Jeff.Beamsley at covisint.com  Thu May 19 09:53:14 2011
From: Jeff.Beamsley at covisint.com (Beamsley, Jeff)
Date: Thu, 19 May 2011 10:53:14 -0400
Subject: [NU Sports] FW: 8:50a all time zones,
	NBC Today - story on NU Alum
In-Reply-To: <00f801cc1625$199a5ed0$4ccf1c70$@com>
References: <1F89BB2CE7A5B94D969618E8CC769CC36AA66608@XCHGBRS4.corp.espn.pvt>
 <00f801cc1625$199a5ed0$4ccf1c70$@com>
Message-ID: <FA7822545C26F244823CA5D312ABBDEA0739A59D@nasa-dtw-ex006.nasa.cpwr.corp>

Wonderful story.

To build some on Roy's reply, however, our kids returning from the current wars aren't getting the care they need and as a result are committing suicide at an alarming rate. On average 18 vets are committing suicide every day.  It's not just the vets either.  According to advocacy groups, more active duty soldiers are killing themselves every day than are being killed in combat.

http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2010/01/11/national/main6083072.shtml

These kids have been subject to multiple deployments which have stressed them and their families.  When they finally leave the military, they are often seriously traumatized.  They can't work. They can't maintain a relationship.  They often can't even leave the house.  It currently takes on average eight months just to process a disability claim.  Start to get the picture?

If you are interested, you can find out what you can do at this site.

http://www.woundedwarriorproject.org/

Jeff


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From: nwu-sports-bounces at tssi.com [mailto:nwu-sports-bounces at tssi.com] On Behalf Of Roy S. Lamberton
Sent: Thursday, May 19, 2011 9:03 AM
To: 'Weinbaum, Willie'; nwu-sports at tssi.com
Subject: Re: [NU Sports] FW: 8:50a all time zones,NBC Today - story on NU Alum

"Now, at 31, he's set himself a new goal: He wants to be the go-to guy for difficult
patients - the patients everyone else is having trouble with."

Thanks to him, and guys like him, we have soldiers requalifying for the service even after
losing limbs. When I first saw amputees playing basketball or running, I was skeptical,
but the dreams of WW II guys like Hank Viscardi are finally coming true for just about
everyone who suffers an amputation and want to continue their life.

An amazing man from an amazing family.

rsl



++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
Roy S. Lamberton - Senior Associate & Unix Guru.
Computer Applications & Support Associates
-------------------- Also ----------------------
"Commissioner" Delaware American Legion Baseball
Director Media Relations - Little League 
  Senior League Softball World Series
CTR2 USN (67-70) - CTRCS USNR (Ret) (64-67/70-95)
Northwestern University - Speech 1974 - 
Chi Phi: Pi 1974, KD 1968
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form a more perfect union, establish justice, 
insure domestic tranquility, provide for the 
common defense, promote the general welfare, 
and secure the blessings of liberty to ourselves 
and our posterity, do ordain and establish 
this Constitution for the United States of America.
==========  Go Cats -  Beat 'em All  ===========



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From Willie.Weinbaum at espn.com  Thu May 19 10:45:05 2011
From: Willie.Weinbaum at espn.com (Weinbaum, Willie)
Date: Thu, 19 May 2011 11:45:05 -0400
Subject: [NU Sports] FW: 8:50a all time zones,
 NBC Today - story on NU Alum
In-Reply-To: <FA7822545C26F244823CA5D312ABBDEA0739A59D@nasa-dtw-ex006.nasa.cpwr.corp>
References: <1F89BB2CE7A5B94D969618E8CC769CC36AA66608@XCHGBRS4.corp.espn.pvt>
 <00f801cc1625$199a5ed0$4ccf1c70$@com>
 <FA7822545C26F244823CA5D312ABBDEA0739A59D@nasa-dtw-ex006.nasa.cpwr.corp>
Message-ID: <1F89BB2CE7A5B94D969618E8CC769CC36B5D528B@XCHGBRS4.corp.espn.pvt>

FYI - The video of the story is now online @ http://today.msnbc.msn.com/id/42590729/ns/today-good_news/t/amputee-champion-gives-others-legs-stand/.


-----Original Message-----
From: Beamsley, Jeff [mailto:Jeff.Beamsley at covisint.com] 
Sent: Thursday, May 19, 2011 10:53 AM
To: Roy S. Lamberton; Weinbaum, Willie; nwu-sports at tssi.com
Subject: RE: [NU Sports] FW: 8:50a all time zones,NBC Today - story on NU Alum

Wonderful story.

To build some on Roy's reply, however, our kids returning from the current wars aren't getting the care they need and as a result are committing suicide at an alarming rate. On average 18 vets are committing suicide every day.  It's not just the vets either.  According to advocacy groups, more active duty soldiers are killing themselves every day than are being killed in combat.

http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2010/01/11/national/main6083072.shtml

These kids have been subject to multiple deployments which have stressed them and their families.  When they finally leave the military, they are often seriously traumatized.  They can't work. They can't maintain a relationship.  They often can't even leave the house.  It currently takes on average eight months just to process a disability claim.  Start to get the picture?

If you are interested, you can find out what you can do at this site.

http://www.woundedwarriorproject.org/

Jeff


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From: nwu-sports-bounces at tssi.com [mailto:nwu-sports-bounces at tssi.com] On Behalf Of Roy S. Lamberton
Sent: Thursday, May 19, 2011 9:03 AM
To: 'Weinbaum, Willie'; nwu-sports at tssi.com
Subject: Re: [NU Sports] FW: 8:50a all time zones,NBC Today - story on NU Alum

"Now, at 31, he's set himself a new goal: He wants to be the go-to guy for difficult patients - the patients everyone else is having trouble with."

Thanks to him, and guys like him, we have soldiers requalifying for the service even after losing limbs. When I first saw amputees playing basketball or running, I was skeptical, but the dreams of WW II guys like Hank Viscardi are finally coming true for just about everyone who suffers an amputation and want to continue their life.

An amazing man from an amazing family.

rsl



++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
Roy S. Lamberton - Senior Associate & Unix Guru.
Computer Applications & Support Associates
-------------------- Also ---------------------- "Commissioner" Delaware American Legion Baseball Director Media Relations - Little League
  Senior League Softball World Series
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==========  Go Cats -  Beat 'em All  ===========



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From rstetson at capps-assoc.com  Thu May 19 11:47:20 2011
From: rstetson at capps-assoc.com (Roy S. Lamberton)
Date: Thu, 19 May 2011 12:47:20 -0400
Subject: [NU Sports] FW: 8:50a all time zones,
	NBC Today - story on NU Alum
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References: <1F89BB2CE7A5B94D969618E8CC769CC36AA66608@XCHGBRS4.corp.espn.pvt>
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What I get from the CBS News story is that nobody really knows the suicide rate among
vets.

But the answer "why" is simple, you take the typical grunt (their term) who leaves the
military after 4 years and maybe 2 tours in the middle east, and they go out into the
world with a certain amount of PTSD, untrained to do anything but be a low wage security
guard or a clerk in a convenience store. 

Many don't have the resources to go to school, or as they drift around, don't see how they
could do that for another 4 years.

Trust me, I came out of the Navy as a well trained cryptologist and analyst (and writer)
into a world where everyone working was 4 years younger than I was. I saw it in College -
I graduated from NU at 26 - and went out into a world where all the people making hiring
decisions were my age or younger.

It can be depressing, especially when the people you are interviewing with for these entry
level jobs probably couldn't lead a squad, or run a watch section. Besides, those entry
level manufacturing jobs are now done by robots and the only thing they need are guys who
can fix those robots.

I fought through it, but many of these kids, especially the ones from smaller towns, drift
without hope and outside of their families, without support. 

The American Legion, VFW and other old line Vet's groups' Posts provided a place for even
the Viet Nam guys to hang out, but those posts don't exist out in the country any more.
Hank Viscari, a double amputee in WW II, used to walk around the vets hospital amputee
ward in shorts to show that it could be done even in the 1940's. Maybe we need more vets
like him.

I don't have the full answer, but actions of this Alum, and others, will help get some of
the vets through it. We just need more people to step up and just do it!

rsl

++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
Roy S. Lamberton - Senior Associate & Unix Guru.
Computer Applications & Support Associates
-------------------- Also ----------------------
"Commissioner" Delaware American Legion Baseball
Director Media Relations - Little League 
  Senior League Softball World Series
CTR2 USN (67-70) - CTRCS USNR (Ret) (64-67/70-95)
Northwestern University - Speech 1974 - 
Chi Phi: Pi 1974, KD 1968
Publisher Emeritus: Purple Reign (Fox Sports)
================================================
Opinions expressed above are mine alone and are not
those of any organizations of which I am a member.
------------------------------------------------
We the people of the United States, in order to 
form a more perfect union, establish justice, 
insure domestic tranquility, provide for the 
common defense, promote the general welfare, 
and secure the blessings of liberty to ourselves 
and our posterity, do ordain and establish 
this Constitution for the United States of America.
==========  Go Cats -? Beat 'em All  ===========


-----Original Message-----
From: nwu-sports-bounces at tssi.com [mailto:nwu-sports-bounces at tssi.com] On Behalf Of
Weinbaum, Willie
Sent: Thursday, May 19, 2011 11:45 AM
To: nwu-sports at tssi.com
Subject: Re: [NU Sports] FW: 8:50a all time zones, NBC Today - story on NU Alum

FYI - The video of the story is now online @
http://today.msnbc.msn.com/id/42590729/ns/today-good_news/t/amputee-champion-gives-others-
legs-stand/.


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From: Beamsley, Jeff [mailto:Jeff.Beamsley at covisint.com] 
Sent: Thursday, May 19, 2011 10:53 AM
To: Roy S. Lamberton; Weinbaum, Willie; nwu-sports at tssi.com
Subject: RE: [NU Sports] FW: 8:50a all time zones,NBC Today - story on NU Alum

Wonderful story.

To build some on Roy's reply, however, our kids returning from the current wars aren't
getting the care they need and as a result are committing suicide at an alarming rate. On
average 18 vets are committing suicide every day.  It's not just the vets either.
According to advocacy groups, more active duty soldiers are killing themselves every day
than are being killed in combat.

http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2010/01/11/national/main6083072.shtml

These kids have been subject to multiple deployments which have stressed them and their
families.  When they finally leave the military, they are often seriously traumatized.
They can't work. They can't maintain a relationship.  They often can't even leave the
house.  It currently takes on average eight months just to process a disability claim.
Start to get the picture?

If you are interested, you can find out what you can do at this site.

http://www.woundedwarriorproject.org/

Jeff


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From: nwu-sports-bounces at tssi.com [mailto:nwu-sports-bounces at tssi.com] On Behalf Of Roy S.
Lamberton
Sent: Thursday, May 19, 2011 9:03 AM
To: 'Weinbaum, Willie'; nwu-sports at tssi.com
Subject: Re: [NU Sports] FW: 8:50a all time zones,NBC Today - story on NU Alum

"Now, at 31, he's set himself a new goal: He wants to be the go-to guy for difficult
patients - the patients everyone else is having trouble with."

Thanks to him, and guys like him, we have soldiers requalifying for the service even after
losing limbs. When I first saw amputees playing basketball or running, I was skeptical,
but the dreams of WW II guys like Hank Viscardi are finally coming true for just about
everyone who suffers an amputation and want to continue their life.

An amazing man from an amazing family.

rsl



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Computer Applications & Support Associates
-------------------- Also ---------------------- "Commissioner" Delaware American Legion
Baseball Director Media Relations - Little League
  Senior League Softball World Series
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From thehaze at earthlink.net  Thu May 19 15:31:52 2011
From: thehaze at earthlink.net (Jim Bendat)
Date: Thu, 19 May 2011 13:31:52 -0700 (GMT-07:00)
Subject: [NU Sports] Home night games this fall
Message-ID: <22208795.1305837113037.JavaMail.root@wamui-june.atl.sa.earthlink.net>

Sun-Times is reporting that we will host TWO home night games this fall: Oct. 8 vs. Michigan and Oct. 22nd vs. Penn State.

http://www.suntimes.com/sports/5472666-417/northwestern-to-play-2-home-night-games.html

If this is true, it would be a first for us to have more than one home night game in any season. Official announcement is due on Big Ten Network tonight at 8pm EDT.

Night game on Oct. 8th would also avoid having a day game on Yom Kippur!

Jim B.


From rstetson at capps-assoc.com  Thu May 19 15:42:50 2011
From: rstetson at capps-assoc.com (Roy S. Lamberton)
Date: Thu, 19 May 2011 16:42:50 -0400
Subject: [NU Sports] Home night games this fall
In-Reply-To: <22208795.1305837113037.JavaMail.root@wamui-june.atl.sa.earthlink.net>
References: <22208795.1305837113037.JavaMail.root@wamui-june.atl.sa.earthlink.net>
Message-ID: <001401cc1665$5263c540$f72b4fc0$@com>

How did they get that one thru the Evanston City Council.... and when with the neighbors
demand a public hearing?

rsl

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Computer Applications & Support Associates
-------------------- Also ----------------------
"Commissioner" Delaware American Legion Baseball
Director Media Relations - Little League 
  Senior League Softball World Series
CTR2 USN (67-70) - CTRCS USNR (Ret) (64-67/70-95)
Northwestern University - Speech 1974 - 
Chi Phi: Pi 1974, KD 1968
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insure domestic tranquility, provide for the 
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and our posterity, do ordain and establish 
this Constitution for the United States of America.
==========  Go Cats -? Beat 'em All  ===========


-----Original Message-----
From: nwu-sports-bounces at tssi.com [mailto:nwu-sports-bounces at tssi.com] On Behalf Of Jim
Bendat
Sent: Thursday, May 19, 2011 4:32 PM
To: nwu-sports at tssi.com
Subject: [NU Sports] Home night games this fall

Sun-Times is reporting that we will host TWO home night games this fall: Oct. 8 vs.
Michigan and Oct. 22nd vs. Penn State.

http://www.suntimes.com/sports/5472666-417/northwestern-to-play-2-home-night-games.html

If this is true, it would be a first for us to have more than one home night game in any
season. Official announcement is due on Big Ten Network tonight at 8pm EDT.

Night game on Oct. 8th would also avoid having a day game on Yom Kippur!

Jim B.

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From sjtruog at yahoo.com  Thu May 19 16:28:10 2011
From: sjtruog at yahoo.com (SjT (Stephen J. Truog))
Date: Thu, 19 May 2011 14:28:10 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [NU Sports] Home night games this fall
In-Reply-To: <22208795.1305837113037.JavaMail.root@wamui-june.atl.sa.earthlink.net>
Message-ID: <115949.45055.qm@web121711.mail.ne1.yahoo.com>

Great news! Well ... night games haven't exactly been kind to the Cats, but still a nice showcase for Fitz and the boys to turn some heads in prime time.

I love that the Big Ten is going all-out for primetime games this year even later (they're moving forward each year). I'm sick of having to sit throug Pitt-Syracuse on Saturday night late in the season with all the Big Ten games at 11 am (earlier out west) ... the SEC is the only league that comes close in name recognition, and the Big Ten should be out there with big-time matchups in primetime every week: Michigan-Nebraska, OSU-MSU, Wisconsin-Penn State and yes, Northwestern!!!

Now NU has to pack the place in purple and make it a great environment!

GO CATS!!!
-SjT


* * * * * * * * *
STEPHEN J. TRUOG
sjtruog at yahoo.com
GO CATS!!! GEAUX SAINTS!!!
Super Bowl XLIV Champions!
==========================

> If this is true, it would be a first for us to have more
> than one home night game in any season. Official
> announcement is due on Big Ten Network tonight at 8pm EDT.


From MHRJGScott at aol.com  Thu May 19 16:49:42 2011
From: MHRJGScott at aol.com (MHRJGScott at aol.com)
Date: Thu, 19 May 2011 17:49:42 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: [NU Sports] Pay to Play
Message-ID: <60ec6.37660bd7.3b06ea76@aol.com>

PTI is reporting that the BT is considering paying football players a few  
grand per year, sounds good to me, comments?

From rstetson at capps-assoc.com  Thu May 19 16:56:29 2011
From: rstetson at capps-assoc.com (Roy S. Lamberton)
Date: Thu, 19 May 2011 17:56:29 -0400
Subject: [NU Sports] Pay to Play
In-Reply-To: <60ec6.37660bd7.3b06ea76@aol.com>
References: <60ec6.37660bd7.3b06ea76@aol.com>
Message-ID: <000001cc166f$9bbdcd30$d3396790$@com>

Was that Wilbon, or Kornhauser?

And were they kidding?

rsl

++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
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Computer Applications & Support Associates
-------------------- Also ----------------------
"Commissioner" Delaware American Legion Baseball
Director Media Relations - Little League 
  Senior League Softball World Series
CTR2 USN (67-70) - CTRCS USNR (Ret) (64-67/70-95)
Northwestern University - Speech 1974 - 
Chi Phi: Pi 1974, KD 1968
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================================================
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------------------------------------------------
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form a more perfect union, establish justice, 
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common defense, promote the general welfare, 
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this Constitution for the United States of America.
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MHRJGScott at aol.com
Sent: Thursday, May 19, 2011 5:50 PM
To: nwu-sports at tssi.com
Subject: [NU Sports] Pay to Play

PTI is reporting that the BT is considering paying football players a few  
grand per year, sounds good to me, comments?
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From tkmaycock at yahoo.com  Thu May 19 17:03:37 2011
From: tkmaycock at yahoo.com (Tom Maycock)
Date: Thu, 19 May 2011 15:03:37 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [NU Sports] Pay to Play
In-Reply-To: <000001cc166f$9bbdcd30$d3396790$@com>
References: <60ec6.37660bd7.3b06ea76@aol.com>
 <000001cc166f$9bbdcd30$d3396790$@com>
Message-ID: <2254.64179.qm@web161012.mail.bf1.yahoo.com>

Not kidding--it's been reported in several sources that the B10 is looking at the possibility of additional stipends of some kind. For example:

http://www.cbssports.com/collegefootball/story/15079622/sec-commish-slive-open-to-talk-about-full-cost-scholarships


Tom




>________________________________
>From: Roy S. Lamberton <rstetson at capps-assoc.com>
>To: MHRJGScott at aol.com; nwu-sports at tssi.com
>Sent: Thursday, May 19, 2011 4:56 PM
>Subject: Re: [NU Sports] Pay to Play
>
>Was that Wilbon, or Kornhauser?
>
>And were they kidding?
>
>rsl
>
>++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
>Roy S. Lamberton - Senior Associate & Unix Guru.
>Computer Applications & Support Associates
>-------------------- Also ----------------------
>"Commissioner" Delaware American Legion Baseball
>Director Media Relations - Little League 
>? Senior League Softball World Series
>CTR2 USN (67-70) - CTRCS USNR (Ret) (64-67/70-95)
>Northwestern University - Speech 1974 - 
>Chi Phi: Pi 1974, KD 1968
>Publisher Emeritus: Purple Reign (Fox Sports)
>================================================
>Opinions expressed above are mine alone and are not
>those of any organizations of which I am a member.
>------------------------------------------------
>We the people of the United States, in order to 
>form a more perfect union, establish justice, 
>insure domestic tranquility, provide for the 
>common defense, promote the general welfare, 
>and secure the blessings of liberty to ourselves 
>and our posterity, do ordain and establish 
>this Constitution for the United States of America.
>==========? Go Cats -? Beat 'em All? ===========
>
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: nwu-sports-bounces at tssi.com [mailto:nwu-sports-bounces at tssi.com] On Behalf Of
>MHRJGScott at aol.com
>Sent: Thursday, May 19, 2011 5:50 PM
>To: nwu-sports at tssi.com
>Subject: [NU Sports] Pay to Play
>
>PTI is reporting that the BT is considering paying football players a few? 
>grand per year, sounds good to me, comments?
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From MHRJGScott at aol.com  Thu May 19 18:40:30 2011
From: MHRJGScott at aol.com (MHRJGScott at aol.com)
Date: Thu, 19 May 2011 19:40:30 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: [NU Sports] Pay to Play
Message-ID: <656d2.207e8116.3b07046e@aol.com>

The justification seems to be that "grant in kind" or scholarship students  
from poor families get a couple bucks besides tuition and that the same 
deal  should be made with jocks, inevitable.

From tbng at comcast.net  Thu May 19 18:40:33 2011
From: tbng at comcast.net (Dennis W. Brandt)
Date: Thu, 19 May 2011 19:40:33 -0400
Subject: [NU Sports] Pay to Play
References: <60ec6.37660bd7.3b06ea76@aol.com>
Message-ID: <C32ED3AB349149848F5C04972C158E7F@dennismachine>

> PTI is reporting that the BT is considering paying football players a few
> grand per year, sounds good to me, comments?

BAD IDEA!  REALLY BAD!  A full scholarship for four, maybe five years, a 
special diet, availability of tutors, isn't enough? 


From MHRJGScott at aol.com  Thu May 19 18:46:18 2011
From: MHRJGScott at aol.com (MHRJGScott at aol.com)
Date: Thu, 19 May 2011 19:46:18 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: [NU Sports] Pay to Play
Message-ID: <65a59.6e26819f.3b0705ca@aol.com>


BAD IDEA!  REALLY BAD!  A full scholarship for four, maybe  five years, a 
special diet, availability of tutors, isn't enough? 

No  not when these kids generate a billion $ and their asst. kicking coach 
is  getting $400,000 per. At least 10 asst coaches in the sec$ are making  
$800,000 each. Please, give the kids $5,000 so they don't have to steal  
computers and sell rings.

From thehaze at earthlink.net  Thu May 19 19:39:10 2011
From: thehaze at earthlink.net (Jim Bendat)
Date: Thu, 19 May 2011 17:39:10 -0700 (GMT-07:00)
Subject: [NU Sports] Home night games this fall
Message-ID: <10494474.1305851950988.JavaMail.root@wamui-haziran.atl.sa.earthlink.net>

Official announcement is in, and we'll also be playing Iowa at night on Oct. 15th. Three night games in successive weeks - all on the BTN. Time to get ready for prime time. Go Cats!

-----Original Message-----
>From: Jim Bendat <thehaze at earthlink.net>
>Sent: May 19, 2011 1:31 PM
>To: nwu-sports at tssi.com
>Subject: [NU Sports] Home night games this fall
>
>Sun-Times is reporting that we will host TWO home night games this fall: Oct. 8 vs. Michigan and Oct. 22nd vs. Penn State.
>
>http://www.suntimes.com/sports/5472666-417/northwestern-to-play-2-home-night-games.html
>
>If this is true, it would be a first for us to have more than one home night game in any season. Official announcement is due on Big Ten Network tonight at 8pm EDT.
>
>Night game on Oct. 8th would also avoid having a day game on Yom Kippur!
>
>Jim B.
>
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From Martinitis at aol.com  Thu May 19 20:07:27 2011
From: Martinitis at aol.com (Martinitis at aol.com)
Date: Thu, 19 May 2011 21:07:27 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: [NU Sports] Pay to Play
Message-ID: <27611.3f3e387.3b0718ce@aol.com>

Very Very slippery slope. $5000 today, $25,000 in a few years.
 
 
In a message dated 5/19/2011 4:46:33 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time,  
MHRJGScott at aol.com writes:

Please,  give the kids $5,000 so they don't have to steal  
computers and sell  rings

From rstetson at capps-assoc.com  Fri May 20 08:13:37 2011
From: rstetson at capps-assoc.com (Roy S. Lamberton)
Date: Fri, 20 May 2011 09:13:37 -0400
Subject: [NU Sports] Pay to Play
In-Reply-To: <2254.64179.qm@web161012.mail.bf1.yahoo.com>
References: <60ec6.37660bd7.3b06ea76@aol.com>
 <000001cc166f$9bbdcd30$d3396790$@com>
 <2254.64179.qm@web161012.mail.bf1.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <001c01cc16ef$bb0a9710$311fc530$@com>

My youngest son, who is attending a local university but living off the campus, was given
a credit card with the total amount of his scholarship/loan award to spend as he saw fit. 

 

He can use the card to pay for tuition, school supplies, a new laptop, virtually anything
you can use a basic credit card for as he finishes his education. (including beer at the
bar)

 

Right now, I think athletes have an account with the book store, a meal pass at the
cafeteria and essentially a free ride on fees and tuition. Kids on need scholarships get
additional money to spend as they wish - athletic scholarships limit everything to school
expenses period and the NCAA considers additional money a no-no.

 

That kind of thinking leads to the $100 handshake after the game, or a $20 slipped into a
locker - sure times have changed, but the big time booster alums will always find a way to
reward top football and basketball players. 

 

What I think everyone is missing is that if you pay football and basketball players
additional money, you have to pay every scholarship sport that "living expense" or you
lose the concept of fairness in the athletic departments. Kids in the non-revenue
producing sports usually get half, third and quarter scholarships. Do you then prorate the
awards?

 

I'm sure that is what the NCAA and the big conferences are wrestling with right now.

 

rsl

 

++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

Roy S. Lamberton - Senior Associate & Unix Guru.

Computer Applications & Support Associates

-------------------- Also ----------------------

"Commissioner" Delaware American Legion Baseball

Director Media Relations - Little League 

  Senior League Softball World Series

CTR2 USN (67-70) - CTRCS USNR (Ret) (64-67/70-95)

Northwestern University - Speech 1974 - 

Chi Phi: Pi 1974, KD 1968

Publisher Emeritus: Purple Reign (Fox Sports)

================================================

Opinions expressed above are mine alone and are not

those of any organizations of which I am a member.

------------------------------------------------

We the people of the United States, in order to 

form a more perfect union, establish justice, 

insure domestic tranquility, provide for the 

common defense, promote the general welfare, 

and secure the blessings of liberty to ourselves 

and our posterity, do ordain and establish 

this Constitution for the United States of America.

==========  Go Cats -  Beat 'em All  ===========

 

 

From: Tom Maycock [mailto:tkmaycock at yahoo.com] 
Sent: Thursday, May 19, 2011 6:04 PM
To: Roy S. Lamberton; MHRJGScott at aol.com; nwu-sports at tssi.com
Subject: Re: [NU Sports] Pay to Play

 

Not kidding--it's been reported in several sources that the B10 is looking at the
possibility of additional stipends of some kind. For example:

 

http://www.cbssports.com/collegefootball/story/15079622/sec-commish-slive-open-to-talk-abo
ut-full-cost-scholarships

 

Tom

 

 


  _____  


From: Roy S. Lamberton <rstetson at capps-assoc.com>
To: MHRJGScott at aol.com; nwu-sports at tssi.com
Sent: Thursday, May 19, 2011 4:56 PM
Subject: Re: [NU Sports] Pay to Play

Was that Wilbon, or Kornhauser?

And were they kidding?

rsl

++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
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Computer Applications & Support Associates
-------------------- Also ----------------------
"Commissioner" Delaware American Legion Baseball
Director Media Relations - Little League 
  Senior League Softball World Series
CTR2 USN (67-70) - CTRCS USNR (Ret) (64-67/70-95)
Northwestern University - Speech 1974 - 
Chi Phi: Pi 1974, KD 1968
Publisher Emeritus: Purple Reign (Fox Sports)
================================================
Opinions expressed above are mine alone and are not
those of any organizations of which I am a member.
------------------------------------------------
We the people of the United States, in order to 
form a more perfect union, establish justice, 
insure domestic tranquility, provide for the 
common defense, promote the general welfare, 
and secure the blessings of liberty to ourselves 
and our posterity, do ordain and establish 
this Constitution for the United States of America.
==========  Go Cats -  Beat 'em All  ===========


-----Original Message-----
From: nwu-sports-bounces at tssi.com [mailto:nwu-sports-bounces at tssi.com] On Behalf Of
MHRJGScott at aol.com
Sent: Thursday, May 19, 2011 5:50 PM
To: nwu-sports at tssi.com
Subject: [NU Sports] Pay to Play

PTI is reporting that the BT is considering paying football players a few  
grand per year, sounds good to me, comments?
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From Willie.Weinbaum at espn.com  Fri May 20 08:21:37 2011
From: Willie.Weinbaum at espn.com (Weinbaum, Willie)
Date: Fri, 20 May 2011 09:21:37 -0400
Subject: [NU Sports] column I did that might be of interest
Message-ID: <1F89BB2CE7A5B94D969618E8CC769CC36B6BA5BB@XCHGBRS4.corp.espn.pvt>

http://sports.espn.go.com/espn/otl/news/story?id=6561119



From Jeff.Beamsley at covisint.com  Fri May 20 08:29:17 2011
From: Jeff.Beamsley at covisint.com (Beamsley, Jeff)
Date: Fri, 20 May 2011 09:29:17 -0400
Subject: [NU Sports] Pay to Play
In-Reply-To: <001c01cc16ef$bb0a9710$311fc530$@com>
References: <60ec6.37660bd7.3b06ea76@aol.com>
 <000001cc166f$9bbdcd30$d3396790$@com>
 <2254.64179.qm@web161012.mail.bf1.yahoo.com>
 <001c01cc16ef$bb0a9710$311fc530$@com>
Message-ID: <FA7822545C26F244823CA5D312ABBDEA0739A805@nasa-dtw-ex006.nasa.cpwr.corp>

I think it is very interesting that the BT took the first move.

If the BT is successful in figuring out how to implement and manage
this, it's going to give BT schools a recruiting advantage.  Wonder if
the NCAA is going to try to claw back some stronger commitments on
graduation rates.

It also sets up an interesting dynamic if the NCAA drags their feet.
The big conferences could use this issue to threaten to break away from
the NCAA and implement the post season playoff system that has also been
a hot topic of discussion.  

This is definitely another example of how the big conferences can widen
their competitive advantage over the smaller conferences.

Jeff



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From: nwu-sports-bounces at tssi.com [mailto:nwu-sports-bounces at tssi.com]
On Behalf Of Roy S. Lamberton
Sent: Friday, May 20, 2011 9:14 AM
To: 'Tom Maycock'; MHRJGScott at aol.com; nwu-sports at tssi.com
Subject: Re: [NU Sports] Pay to Play

My youngest son, who is attending a local university but living off the
campus, was given
a credit card with the total amount of his scholarship/loan award to
spend as he saw fit. 

 

He can use the card to pay for tuition, school supplies, a new laptop,
virtually anything
you can use a basic credit card for as he finishes his education.
(including beer at the
bar)

 

Right now, I think athletes have an account with the book store, a meal
pass at the
cafeteria and essentially a free ride on fees and tuition. Kids on need
scholarships get
additional money to spend as they wish - athletic scholarships limit
everything to school
expenses period and the NCAA considers additional money a no-no.

 

That kind of thinking leads to the $100 handshake after the game, or a
$20 slipped into a
locker - sure times have changed, but the big time booster alums will
always find a way to
reward top football and basketball players. 

 

What I think everyone is missing is that if you pay football and
basketball players
additional money, you have to pay every scholarship sport that "living
expense" or you
lose the concept of fairness in the athletic departments. Kids in the
non-revenue
producing sports usually get half, third and quarter scholarships. Do
you then prorate the
awards?

 

I'm sure that is what the NCAA and the big conferences are wrestling
with right now.

 

rsl

 

++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

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Computer Applications & Support Associates

-------------------- Also ----------------------

"Commissioner" Delaware American Legion Baseball

Director Media Relations - Little League 

  Senior League Softball World Series

CTR2 USN (67-70) - CTRCS USNR (Ret) (64-67/70-95)

Northwestern University - Speech 1974 - 

Chi Phi: Pi 1974, KD 1968

Publisher Emeritus: Purple Reign (Fox Sports)

================================================

Opinions expressed above are mine alone and are not

those of any organizations of which I am a member.

------------------------------------------------

We the people of the United States, in order to 

form a more perfect union, establish justice, 

insure domestic tranquility, provide for the 

common defense, promote the general welfare, 

and secure the blessings of liberty to ourselves 

and our posterity, do ordain and establish 

this Constitution for the United States of America.

==========  Go Cats -  Beat 'em All  ===========

 

 

From: Tom Maycock [mailto:tkmaycock at yahoo.com] 
Sent: Thursday, May 19, 2011 6:04 PM
To: Roy S. Lamberton; MHRJGScott at aol.com; nwu-sports at tssi.com
Subject: Re: [NU Sports] Pay to Play

 

Not kidding--it's been reported in several sources that the B10 is
looking at the
possibility of additional stipends of some kind. For example:

 

http://www.cbssports.com/collegefootball/story/15079622/sec-commish-sliv
e-open-to-talk-abo
ut-full-cost-scholarships

 

Tom

 

 


  _____  


From: Roy S. Lamberton <rstetson at capps-assoc.com>
To: MHRJGScott at aol.com; nwu-sports at tssi.com
Sent: Thursday, May 19, 2011 4:56 PM
Subject: Re: [NU Sports] Pay to Play

Was that Wilbon, or Kornhauser?

And were they kidding?

rsl

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Computer Applications & Support Associates
-------------------- Also ----------------------
"Commissioner" Delaware American Legion Baseball
Director Media Relations - Little League 
  Senior League Softball World Series
CTR2 USN (67-70) - CTRCS USNR (Ret) (64-67/70-95)
Northwestern University - Speech 1974 - 
Chi Phi: Pi 1974, KD 1968
Publisher Emeritus: Purple Reign (Fox Sports)
================================================
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those of any organizations of which I am a member.
------------------------------------------------
We the people of the United States, in order to 
form a more perfect union, establish justice, 
insure domestic tranquility, provide for the 
common defense, promote the general welfare, 
and secure the blessings of liberty to ourselves 
and our posterity, do ordain and establish 
this Constitution for the United States of America.
==========  Go Cats -  Beat 'em All  ===========


-----Original Message-----
From: nwu-sports-bounces at tssi.com [mailto:nwu-sports-bounces at tssi.com]
On Behalf Of
MHRJGScott at aol.com
Sent: Thursday, May 19, 2011 5:50 PM
To: nwu-sports at tssi.com
Subject: [NU Sports] Pay to Play

PTI is reporting that the BT is considering paying football players a
few  
grand per year, sounds good to me, comments?
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From sjtruog at yahoo.com  Fri May 20 08:35:45 2011
From: sjtruog at yahoo.com (SjT (Stephen J. Truog))
Date: Fri, 20 May 2011 06:35:45 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [NU Sports] Home night games this fall
In-Reply-To: <10494474.1305851950988.JavaMail.root@wamui-haziran.atl.sa.earthlink.net>
Message-ID: <381538.20630.qm@web121708.mail.ne1.yahoo.com>

Wow - three night games in a row. Let's hope the Big Ten Network has hired Pam Ward or something. :)

Something special about prime time - hopefully the team comes out fired up and makes the most of this chance.

Is it football season yet?

GO CATS!!!
-SjT

* * * * * * * * *
STEPHEN J. TRUOG
sjtruog at yahoo.com
GO CATS!!! GEAUX SAINTS!!!
Super Bowl XLIV Champions!
==========================


From cspnu81 at tds.net  Fri May 20 08:38:06 2011
From: cspnu81 at tds.net (Chris Patterson)
Date: Fri, 20 May 2011 09:38:06 -0400
Subject: [NU Sports] FW:  column I did that might be of interest
Message-ID: <000001cc16f3$2786a020$7693e060$@net>

Good piece!

-----Original Message-----
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Behalf Of Weinbaum, Willie
Sent: Friday, May 20, 2011 9:22 AM
To: nwu-sports at tssi.com
Subject: [NU Sports] column I did that might be of interest

http://sports.espn.go.com/espn/otl/news/story?id=6561119


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From e-west at northwestern.edu  Fri May 20 08:39:44 2011
From: e-west at northwestern.edu (Eric West)
Date: Fri, 20 May 2011 08:39:44 -0500
Subject: [NU Sports] Pay to Play
In-Reply-To: <FA7822545C26F244823CA5D312ABBDEA0739A805@nasa-dtw-ex006.nasa.cpwr.corp>
References: <60ec6.37660bd7.3b06ea76@aol.com>
 <000001cc166f$9bbdcd30$d3396790$@com>
 <2254.64179.qm@web161012.mail.bf1.yahoo.com>
 <001c01cc16ef$bb0a9710$311fc530$@com>
 <FA7822545C26F244823CA5D312ABBDEA0739A805@nasa-dtw-ex006.nasa.cpwr.corp>
Message-ID: <4DD66F20.4000201@northwestern.edu>

I, for one, can't wait until the first NCAA lockout.


Eric West
e-west at northwestern.edu


From sjtruog at yahoo.com  Fri May 20 08:44:51 2011
From: sjtruog at yahoo.com (SjT (Stephen J. Truog))
Date: Fri, 20 May 2011 06:44:51 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [NU Sports] Pay to Play
In-Reply-To: <FA7822545C26F244823CA5D312ABBDEA0739A805@nasa-dtw-ex006.nasa.cpwr.corp>
Message-ID: <399640.8814.qm@web121709.mail.ne1.yahoo.com>

Interesting story ... I still don't like it. It's a slippery slope that will be abused by the SEC and a full-ride scholarship is already a hefty dose of payment.

But it is interesting that it's the Big Ten coming up with this - the supposed "academic" league of student athletes first - at least according to them. So if they do it, then it gives cover for other leagues to do it, and you know the SEC won't be able to stop at a couple thousand bucks.

It also shows how little control there is over college football and what a laughing stock it makes of the NCAA. Every other sport would be reined in by the NCAA on this before it even got out there. But college football goes wild with its corrupt bowl system instead of an NCAA playoff, has its own TV deals, "disciplines" its own coaches and players run amok and now apparently leaves the world of amateur athletics to become semi-pro?

They really should just separate college football into separate European-style "sport clubs" loosely affiliated (but not officially linked) with college campuses. They could keep the names and logos, but the full rides would be gone and the payment could all be done directly (and not through Cam Newton's father). The rest of the sports could stay under the NCAA and be amateur athletics still under the college umbrella with Title IX and all the rules and playoffs, but as this shows, college football is obviously different. Not sure that's a good type of different, either.

GO CATS!!!
-SjT


* * * * * * * * *
STEPHEN J. TRUOG
sjtruog at yahoo.com
GO CATS!!! GEAUX SAINTS!!!
Super Bowl XLIV Champions!
==========================


From Jeff.Beamsley at covisint.com  Fri May 20 09:26:19 2011
From: Jeff.Beamsley at covisint.com (Beamsley, Jeff)
Date: Fri, 20 May 2011 10:26:19 -0400
Subject: [NU Sports] Pay to Play
In-Reply-To: <399640.8814.qm@web121709.mail.ne1.yahoo.com>
References: <FA7822545C26F244823CA5D312ABBDEA0739A805@nasa-dtw-ex006.nasa.cpwr.corp>
 <399640.8814.qm@web121709.mail.ne1.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <FA7822545C26F244823CA5D312ABBDEA0739A846@nasa-dtw-ex006.nasa.cpwr.corp>

If we can put the ethical argument aside for a moment, I think it is an
interesting case study.

There is big money in college football because of the fan interest both
in attendance as well as viewership.

The NCAA is attempting to preserve the concept of the student-athlete
but the only power that they have is ceded to them by the conferences.  

The conferences are the ones who really have the power right now because
they are able to do things (BTN) that individual institutions can't.
The BTN's ability to reorganize itself in a matter of months is just one
example of how big money can drive rapid change.

We've already seen, in areas like grey shirting, that there is a wide
range of interpretation of the 85 scholarship limit rule that the NCAA
so far has tolerated. 

So the NCAA serves a purpose at the moment in helping enforce the rules
which are intended to create a level playing field BETWEEN conferences.
The conferences themselves don't really need the NCAA to enforce rules
among their members.  They already have the biggest stick they need in
the form of revenue sharing.

For the NCAA, however, it is a tenuous existence.

That existence may be tested by the impending OSU scandal. 

This trial balloon from the BT of expanding the definition of
"scholarship" could be in part motivated by what the BT anticipates
could be some serious penalties coming down for OSU.  It could be
interpreted as a shot across the bow, so to speak, from the BT letting
the NCAA know that if they are thinking about blowing up the OSU
football program over this scandal, the BT is going to push hard to
further water down the whole definition of what a student-athlete is.
And where the BT goes, the rest of the conferences will follow.

We are blessed to live in such interesting times.

Jeff


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From: nwu-sports-bounces at tssi.com [mailto:nwu-sports-bounces at tssi.com]
On Behalf Of SjT (Stephen J. Truog)
Sent: Friday, May 20, 2011 9:45 AM
To: nwu-sports at tssi.com
Subject: Re: [NU Sports] Pay to Play

Interesting story ... I still don't like it. It's a slippery slope that
will be abused by the SEC and a full-ride scholarship is already a hefty
dose of payment.

But it is interesting that it's the Big Ten coming up with this - the
supposed "academic" league of student athletes first - at least
according to them. So if they do it, then it gives cover for other
leagues to do it, and you know the SEC won't be able to stop at a couple
thousand bucks.

It also shows how little control there is over college football and what
a laughing stock it makes of the NCAA. Every other sport would be reined
in by the NCAA on this before it even got out there. But college
football goes wild with its corrupt bowl system instead of an NCAA
playoff, has its own TV deals, "disciplines" its own coaches and players
run amok and now apparently leaves the world of amateur athletics to
become semi-pro?

They really should just separate college football into separate
European-style "sport clubs" loosely affiliated (but not officially
linked) with college campuses. They could keep the names and logos, but
the full rides would be gone and the payment could all be done directly
(and not through Cam Newton's father). The rest of the sports could stay
under the NCAA and be amateur athletics still under the college umbrella
with Title IX and all the rules and playoffs, but as this shows, college
football is obviously different. Not sure that's a good type of
different, either.

GO CATS!!!
-SjT


* * * * * * * * *
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sjtruog at yahoo.com
GO CATS!!! GEAUX SAINTS!!!
Super Bowl XLIV Champions!
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From michael.vance at att.net  Fri May 20 09:27:31 2011
From: michael.vance at att.net (Michael Vance)
Date: Fri, 20 May 2011 10:27:31 -0400
Subject: [NU Sports] Pay to Play
In-Reply-To: <399640.8814.qm@web121709.mail.ne1.yahoo.com>
References: <399640.8814.qm@web121709.mail.ne1.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <96F2B219-0322-4A69-B012-99AACC23863F@att.net>

Every school financial aid office has a line item in their total cost of attendance figure that includes miscellaneous living expenses (aka, beer and Taco Bell money). Limit the stipend to that amount, or at least use a calculation based on that amount, and it mitigates the chance of escalation.

-Michael
Sent from my mobile device...

On May 20, 2011, at 9:44 AM, "SjT \(Stephen J. Truog\)" <sjtruog at yahoo.com> wrote:

> Interesting story ... I still don't like it. It's a slippery slope that will be abused by the SEC and a full-ride scholarship is already a hefty dose of payment.
> 
> But it is interesting that it's the Big Ten coming up with this - the supposed "academic" league of student athletes first - at least according to them. So if they do it, then it gives cover for other leagues to do it, and you know the SEC won't be able to stop at a couple thousand bucks.
> 
> It also shows how little control there is over college football and what a laughing stock it makes of the NCAA. Every other sport would be reined in by the NCAA on this before it even got out there. But college football goes wild with its corrupt bowl system instead of an NCAA playoff, has its own TV deals, "disciplines" its own coaches and players run amok and now apparently leaves the world of amateur athletics to become semi-pro?
> 
> They really should just separate college football into separate European-style "sport clubs" loosely affiliated (but not officially linked) with college campuses. They could keep the names and logos, but the full rides would be gone and the payment could all be done directly (and not through Cam Newton's father). The rest of the sports could stay under the NCAA and be amateur athletics still under the college umbrella with Title IX and all the rules and playoffs, but as this shows, college football is obviously different. Not sure that's a good type of different, either.
> 
> GO CATS!!!
> -SjT
> 
> 
> * * * * * * * * *
> STEPHEN J. TRUOG
> sjtruog at yahoo.com
> GO CATS!!! GEAUX SAINTS!!!
> Super Bowl XLIV Champions!
> ==========================
> 
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From clzahn at mindspring.com  Fri May 20 09:27:43 2011
From: clzahn at mindspring.com (Clark Zahn)
Date: Fri, 20 May 2011 07:27:43 -0700 (GMT-07:00)
Subject: [NU Sports] Home night games this fall
Message-ID: <32591461.1305901663907.JavaMail.root@elwamui-darkeyed.atl.sa.earthlink.net>

Not just night games, but night games against Michigan, Iowa and PSU.  WOW!


-----Original Message-----
>From: "SjT (Stephen J. Truog)" <sjtruog at yahoo.com>
>Sent: May 20, 2011 6:35 AM
>To: nwu-sports at tssi.com
>Subject: Re: [NU Sports] Home night games this fall
>
>Wow - three night games in a row. Let's hope the Big Ten Network has hired Pam Ward or something. :)
>
>Something special about prime time - hopefully the team comes out fired up and makes the most of this chance.
>
>Is it football season yet?
>
>GO CATS!!!
>-SjT
>
>* * * * * * * * *
>STEPHEN J. TRUOG
>sjtruog at yahoo.com
>GO CATS!!! GEAUX SAINTS!!!
>Super Bowl XLIV Champions!
>==========================
>
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From hakirsch at aol.com  Fri May 20 09:29:08 2011
From: hakirsch at aol.com (hakirsch at aol.com)
Date: Fri, 20 May 2011 14:29:08 +0000
Subject: [NU Sports] Pay to Play
In-Reply-To: <399640.8814.qm@web121709.mail.ne1.yahoo.com>
References: <FA7822545C26F244823CA5D312ABBDEA0739A805@nasa-dtw-ex006.nasa.cpwr.corp><399640.8814.qm@web121709.mail.ne1.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <425115613-1305901748-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-1870500221-@b18.c7.bise6.blackberry>

I have to agree with no payment. If the real reason is to stop the illegal payments then the NCAA has to hand out really stiff penalties when violations occurr. How about fining coaches a percentage of their salary.   Tressel's fine was the first I have seen in awhile. Give schools immediate 1 year penalty for bowl games and TV revenue.  Suspend coaches from coaching anywhere in Div 1 for at least a year

Harry
Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry

-----Original Message-----
From: "SjT \(Stephen J. Truog\)" <sjtruog at yahoo.com>
Sender: nwu-sports-bounces at tssi.com
Date: Fri, 20 May 2011 06:44:51 
To: <nwu-sports at tssi.com>
Subject: Re: [NU Sports] Pay to Play

Interesting story ... I still don't like it. It's a slippery slope that will be abused by the SEC and a full-ride scholarship is already a hefty dose of payment.

But it is interesting that it's the Big Ten coming up with this - the supposed "academic" league of student athletes first - at least according to them. So if they do it, then it gives cover for other leagues to do it, and you know the SEC won't be able to stop at a couple thousand bucks.

It also shows how little control there is over college football and what a laughing stock it makes of the NCAA. Every other sport would be reined in by the NCAA on this before it even got out there. But college football goes wild with its corrupt bowl system instead of an NCAA playoff, has its own TV deals, "disciplines" its own coaches and players run amok and now apparently leaves the world of amateur athletics to become semi-pro?

They really should just separate college football into separate European-style "sport clubs" loosely affiliated (but not officially linked) with college campuses. They could keep the names and logos, but the full rides would be gone and the payment could all be done directly (and not through Cam Newton's father). The rest of the sports could stay under the NCAA and be amateur athletics still under the college umbrella with Title IX and all the rules and playoffs, but as this shows, college football is obviously different. Not sure that's a good type of different, either.

GO CATS!!!
-SjT


* * * * * * * * *
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sjtruog at yahoo.com
GO CATS!!! GEAUX SAINTS!!!
Super Bowl XLIV Champions!
==========================

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From jleonard518 at yahoo.com  Fri May 20 09:41:04 2011
From: jleonard518 at yahoo.com (Jim Leonard)
Date: Fri, 20 May 2011 07:41:04 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [NU Sports] Home night games this fall
In-Reply-To: <32591461.1305901663907.JavaMail.root@elwamui-darkeyed.atl.sa.earthlink.net>
References: <32591461.1305901663907.JavaMail.root@elwamui-darkeyed.atl.sa.earthlink.net>
Message-ID: <249436.84286.qm@web36806.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

I picked the right year to buy season tickets. This is an excellent opportunity 
for Pat's Cats. 


Where can we get an order for 40,000 purple glow sticks?

Victory & Honor,
Jim



----- Original Message ----
From: Clark Zahn <clzahn at mindspring.com>
To: nwu-sports at tssi.com
Sent: Fri, May 20, 2011 9:27:43 AM
Subject: Re: [NU Sports] Home night games this fall

Not just night games, but night games against Michigan, Iowa and PSU.? WOW!


-----Original Message-----
>From: "SjT (Stephen J. Truog)" <sjtruog at yahoo.com>
>Sent: May 20, 2011 6:35 AM
>To: nwu-sports at tssi.com
>Subject: Re: [NU Sports] Home night games this fall
>
>Wow - three night games in a row. Let's hope the Big Ten Network has hired Pam 
>Ward or something. :)
>
>Something special about prime time - hopefully the team comes out fired up and 
>makes the most of this chance.
>
>Is it football season yet?
>
>GO CATS!!!
>-SjT
>
>* * * * * * * * *
>STEPHEN J. TRUOG
>sjtruog at yahoo.com
>GO CATS!!! GEAUX SAINTS!!!
>Super Bowl XLIV Champions!
>==========================
>
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From jleonard518 at yahoo.com  Fri May 20 10:07:06 2011
From: jleonard518 at yahoo.com (Jim Leonard)
Date: Fri, 20 May 2011 08:07:06 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [NU Sports] Pay to Play
In-Reply-To: <FA7822545C26F244823CA5D312ABBDEA0739A805@nasa-dtw-ex006.nasa.cpwr.corp>
References: <60ec6.37660bd7.3b06ea76@aol.com>
 <000001cc166f$9bbdcd30$d3396790$@com>
 <2254.64179.qm@web161012.mail.bf1.yahoo.com>
 <001c01cc16ef$bb0a9710$311fc530$@com>
 <FA7822545C26F244823CA5D312ABBDEA0739A805@nasa-dtw-ex006.nasa.cpwr.corp>
Message-ID: <445532.90696.qm@web36807.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

Jeff,

I think you've hit the name on the head. I would be that this idea is a trial 
balloon to see if the Big Ten and other major conferences intend to stay with 
the NCAA. The Big Ten is very close to being self-sufficient and other big 
conferences would likely follow.

Jim

?


----- Original Message ----
From: "Beamsley, Jeff" <Jeff.Beamsley at covisint.com>
To: Roy S. Lamberton <rstetson at capps-assoc.com>; Tom Maycock 
<tkmaycock at yahoo.com>; MHRJGScott at aol.com; nwu-sports at tssi.com
Sent: Fri, May 20, 2011 8:29:17 AM
Subject: Re: [NU Sports] Pay to Play

I think it is very interesting that the BT took the first move.

If the BT is successful in figuring out how to implement and manage
this, it's going to give BT schools a recruiting advantage.? Wonder if
the NCAA is going to try to claw back some stronger commitments on
graduation rates.

It also sets up an interesting dynamic if the NCAA drags their feet.
The big conferences could use this issue to threaten to break away from
the NCAA and implement the post season playoff system that has also been
a hot topic of discussion.? 

This is definitely another example of how the big conferences can widen
their competitive advantage over the smaller conferences.

Jeff



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From: nwu-sports-bounces at tssi.com [mailto:nwu-sports-bounces at tssi.com]
On Behalf Of Roy S. Lamberton
Sent: Friday, May 20, 2011 9:14 AM
To: 'Tom Maycock'; MHRJGScott at aol.com; nwu-sports at tssi.com
Subject: Re: [NU Sports] Pay to Play

My youngest son, who is attending a local university but living off the
campus, was given
a credit card with the total amount of his scholarship/loan award to
spend as he saw fit. 



He can use the card to pay for tuition, school supplies, a new laptop,
virtually anything
you can use a basic credit card for as he finishes his education.
(including beer at the
bar)



Right now, I think athletes have an account with the book store, a meal
pass at the
cafeteria and essentially a free ride on fees and tuition. Kids on need
scholarships get
additional money to spend as they wish - athletic scholarships limit
everything to school
expenses period and the NCAA considers additional money a no-no.



That kind of thinking leads to the $100 handshake after the game, or a
$20 slipped into a
locker - sure times have changed, but the big time booster alums will
always find a way to
reward top football and basketball players. 



What I think everyone is missing is that if you pay football and
basketball players
additional money, you have to pay every scholarship sport that "living
expense" or you
lose the concept of fairness in the athletic departments. Kids in the
non-revenue
producing sports usually get half, third and quarter scholarships. Do
you then prorate the
awards?



I'm sure that is what the NCAA and the big conferences are wrestling
with right now.



rsl



++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

Roy S. Lamberton - Senior Associate & Unix Guru.

Computer Applications & Support Associates

-------------------- Also ----------------------

"Commissioner" Delaware American Legion Baseball

Director Media Relations - Little League 

? Senior League Softball World Series

CTR2 USN (67-70) - CTRCS USNR (Ret) (64-67/70-95)

Northwestern University - Speech 1974 - 

Chi Phi: Pi 1974, KD 1968

Publisher Emeritus: Purple Reign (Fox Sports)

================================================

Opinions expressed above are mine alone and are not

those of any organizations of which I am a member.

------------------------------------------------

We the people of the United States, in order to 

form a more perfect union, establish justice, 

insure domestic tranquility, provide for the 

common defense, promote the general welfare, 

and secure the blessings of liberty to ourselves 

and our posterity, do ordain and establish 

this Constitution for the United States of America.

==========? Go Cats -? Beat 'em All? ===========





From: Tom Maycock [mailto:tkmaycock at yahoo.com] 
Sent: Thursday, May 19, 2011 6:04 PM
To: Roy S. Lamberton; MHRJGScott at aol.com; nwu-sports at tssi.com
Subject: Re: [NU Sports] Pay to Play



Not kidding--it's been reported in several sources that the B10 is
looking at the
possibility of additional stipends of some kind. For example:



http://www.cbssports.com/collegefootball/story/15079622/sec-commish-sliv
e-open-to-talk-abo
ut-full-cost-scholarships



Tom






? _____? 


From: Roy S. Lamberton <rstetson at capps-assoc.com>
To: MHRJGScott at aol.com; nwu-sports at tssi.com
Sent: Thursday, May 19, 2011 4:56 PM
Subject: Re: [NU Sports] Pay to Play

Was that Wilbon, or Kornhauser?

And were they kidding?

rsl

++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
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Computer Applications & Support Associates
-------------------- Also ----------------------
"Commissioner" Delaware American Legion Baseball
Director Media Relations - Little League 
? Senior League Softball World Series
CTR2 USN (67-70) - CTRCS USNR (Ret) (64-67/70-95)
Northwestern University - Speech 1974 - 
Chi Phi: Pi 1974, KD 1968
Publisher Emeritus: Purple Reign (Fox Sports)
================================================
Opinions expressed above are mine alone and are not
those of any organizations of which I am a member.
------------------------------------------------
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form a more perfect union, establish justice, 
insure domestic tranquility, provide for the 
common defense, promote the general welfare, 
and secure the blessings of liberty to ourselves 
and our posterity, do ordain and establish 
this Constitution for the United States of America.
==========? Go Cats -? Beat 'em All? ===========


-----Original Message-----
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On Behalf Of
MHRJGScott at aol.com
Sent: Thursday, May 19, 2011 5:50 PM
To: nwu-sports at tssi.com
Subject: [NU Sports] Pay to Play

PTI is reporting that the BT is considering paying football players a
few? 
grand per year, sounds good to me, comments?
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From sjtruog at yahoo.com  Fri May 20 14:00:23 2011
From: sjtruog at yahoo.com (SjT (Stephen J. Truog))
Date: Fri, 20 May 2011 12:00:23 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [NU Sports] Home night games this fall
In-Reply-To: <249436.84286.qm@web36806.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <491820.81963.qm@web121712.mail.ne1.yahoo.com>

> Where can we get an order for 40,000 purple glow sticks?

Did you say purple glowing THUNDER sticks??? :)

But seriously, I agree. HUGE opportunity for Fitz, Persa and the Cats. Prime time games at home against mega-name foes (with the bumblebees stuck in between at night also!) ... this is a tremendous opportunity on the field.

It's also a huge opportunity off the field - Mr. Phillips has done some great things lately to increase the NU brand in Chicago and beyond. Now will come the real test. We need Ryan Field to be PACKED with PURPLE for those games. We need to have an amazing environment for college football. We've seen the Whiteout at Penn State ... Iowa tried a black/gold out ... Madison goes nuts at night (even more than usual) ... we need to make Evanston electric for those games. Pregame events and postgame fireworks are nice (maybe not for the stadium neighbors ... heh heh heh:) ), but we need something that lights up the TV when they see those Purple helmets and Fitz jumping on the sideline!

GO CATS!!!
-SjT

* * * * * * * * *
STEPHEN J. TRUOG
sjtruog at yahoo.com
GO CATS!!! GEAUX SAINTS!!!
Super Bowl XLIV Champions!
==========================

> From: Jim Leonard <jleonard518 at yahoo.com>

> Where can we get an order for 40,000 purple glow sticks?


From hakirsch at aol.com  Fri May 20 14:12:51 2011
From: hakirsch at aol.com (hakirsch at aol.com)
Date: Fri, 20 May 2011 19:12:51 +0000
Subject: [NU Sports] Home night games this fall
In-Reply-To: <491820.81963.qm@web121712.mail.ne1.yahoo.com>
References: <249436.84286.qm@web36806.mail.mud.yahoo.com><491820.81963.qm@web121712.mail.ne1.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <41894358-1305918768-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-1402056041-@b4.c7.bise6.blackberry>

I would go so far as to give away a large bunch of tickets just to have the stadium packed with purple when seen on TV.  Give to high schools, charities,radio shows--you name it.  If they could get an extra 5-10,000 fannies in the seats it would look like we have quite a following locally. Do that for all of our prime time home games and it might be a great investment

Harry
Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry

-----Original Message-----
From: "SjT \(Stephen J. Truog\)" <sjtruog at yahoo.com>
Sender: nwu-sports-bounces at tssi.com
Date: Fri, 20 May 2011 12:00:23 
To: <nwu-sports at tssi.com>; Jim Leonard<jleonard518 at yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: [NU Sports] Home night games this fall

> Where can we get an order for 40,000 purple glow sticks?

Did you say purple glowing THUNDER sticks??? :)

But seriously, I agree. HUGE opportunity for Fitz, Persa and the Cats. Prime time games at home against mega-name foes (with the bumblebees stuck in between at night also!) ... this is a tremendous opportunity on the field.

It's also a huge opportunity off the field - Mr. Phillips has done some great things lately to increase the NU brand in Chicago and beyond. Now will come the real test. We need Ryan Field to be PACKED with PURPLE for those games. We need to have an amazing environment for college football. We've seen the Whiteout at Penn State ... Iowa tried a black/gold out ... Madison goes nuts at night (even more than usual) ... we need to make Evanston electric for those games. Pregame events and postgame fireworks are nice (maybe not for the stadium neighbors ... heh heh heh:) ), but we need something that lights up the TV when they see those Purple helmets and Fitz jumping on the sideline!

GO CATS!!!
-SjT

* * * * * * * * *
STEPHEN J. TRUOG
sjtruog at yahoo.com
GO CATS!!! GEAUX SAINTS!!!
Super Bowl XLIV Champions!
==========================

> From: Jim Leonard <jleonard518 at yahoo.com>

> Where can we get an order for 40,000 purple glow sticks?

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From jleonard518 at yahoo.com  Fri May 20 14:18:33 2011
From: jleonard518 at yahoo.com (Jim Leonard)
Date: Fri, 20 May 2011 12:18:33 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [NU Sports] Home night games this fall
In-Reply-To: <41894358-1305918768-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-1402056041-@b4.c7.bise6.blackberry>
References: <249436.84286.qm@web36806.mail.mud.yahoo.com><491820.81963.qm@web121712.mail.ne1.yahoo.com>
 <41894358-1305918768-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-1402056041-@b4.c7.bise6.blackberry>
Message-ID: <144975.12224.qm@web36808.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

Taking a page from the Randy Walker playbook, you could give tickets to high 
school groups who need to raise money and donate $1,000 to whatever school 
cheers the loudest. 


Go Cats!
Jim


?


----- Original Message ----
From: "hakirsch at aol.com" <hakirsch at aol.com>
To: SjT (Stephen J. Truog) <sjtruog at yahoo.com>; nwu-sports-bounces at tssi.com; 
nwu-sports at tssi.com; Jim Leonard <jleonard518 at yahoo.com>
Sent: Fri, May 20, 2011 2:12:51 PM
Subject: Re: [NU Sports] Home night games this fall

I would go so far as to give away a large bunch of tickets just to have the 
stadium packed with purple when seen on TV.? Give to high schools, 
charities,radio shows--you name it.? If they could get an extra 5-10,000 fannies 
in the seats it would look like we have quite a following locally. Do that for 
all of our prime time home games and it might be a great investment

Harry
Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry

-----Original Message-----
From: "SjT \(Stephen J. Truog\)" <sjtruog at yahoo.com>
Sender: nwu-sports-bounces at tssi.com
Date: Fri, 20 May 2011 12:00:23 
To: <nwu-sports at tssi.com>; Jim Leonard<jleonard518 at yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: [NU Sports] Home night games this fall

> Where can we get an order for 40,000 purple glow sticks?

Did you say purple glowing THUNDER sticks??? :)

But seriously, I agree. HUGE opportunity for Fitz, Persa and the Cats. Prime 
time games at home against mega-name foes (with the bumblebees stuck in between 
at night also!) ... this is a tremendous opportunity on the field.

It's also a huge opportunity off the field - Mr. Phillips has done some great 
things lately to increase the NU brand in Chicago and beyond. Now will come the 
real test. We need Ryan Field to be PACKED with PURPLE for those games. We need 
to have an amazing environment for college football. We've seen the Whiteout at 
Penn State ... Iowa tried a black/gold out ... Madison goes nuts at night (even 
more than usual) ... we need to make Evanston electric for those games. Pregame 
events and postgame fireworks are nice (maybe not for the stadium neighbors ... 
heh heh heh:) ), but we need something that lights up the TV when they see those 
Purple helmets and Fitz jumping on the sideline!

GO CATS!!!
-SjT

* * * * * * * * *
STEPHEN J. TRUOG
sjtruog at yahoo.com
GO CATS!!! GEAUX SAINTS!!!
Super Bowl XLIV Champions!
==========================

> From: Jim Leonard <jleonard518 at yahoo.com>

> Where can we get an order for 40,000 purple glow sticks?

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From hakirsch at aol.com  Fri May 20 14:23:21 2011
From: hakirsch at aol.com (hakirsch at aol.com)
Date: Fri, 20 May 2011 19:23:21 +0000
Subject: [NU Sports] Home night games this fall
In-Reply-To: <144975.12224.qm@web36808.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
References: <249436.84286.qm@web36806.mail.mud.yahoo.com><491820.81963.qm@web121712.mail.ne1.yahoo.com><41894358-1305918768-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-1402056041-@b4.c7.bise6.blackberry><144975.12224.qm@web36808.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <1592354690-1305919417-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-1009466806-@b4.c7.bise6.blackberry>

Heck with our relationship with the Cubs ,they might give them to the first 2500 fans that show up to a September. Cubs game dubbed" NU Day"
Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry

-----Original Message-----
From: Jim Leonard <jleonard518 at yahoo.com>
Sender: nwu-sports-bounces at tssi.com
Date: Fri, 20 May 2011 12:18:33 
To: <nwu-sports at tssi.com>
Subject: Re: [NU Sports] Home night games this fall

Taking a page from the Randy Walker playbook, you could give tickets to high 
school groups who need to raise money and donate $1,000 to whatever school 
cheers the loudest. 


Go Cats!
Jim


?


----- Original Message ----
From: "hakirsch at aol.com" <hakirsch at aol.com>
To: SjT (Stephen J. Truog) <sjtruog at yahoo.com>; nwu-sports-bounces at tssi.com; 
nwu-sports at tssi.com; Jim Leonard <jleonard518 at yahoo.com>
Sent: Fri, May 20, 2011 2:12:51 PM
Subject: Re: [NU Sports] Home night games this fall

I would go so far as to give away a large bunch of tickets just to have the 
stadium packed with purple when seen on TV.? Give to high schools, 
charities,radio shows--you name it.? If they could get an extra 5-10,000 fannies 
in the seats it would look like we have quite a following locally. Do that for 
all of our prime time home games and it might be a great investment

Harry
Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry

-----Original Message-----
From: "SjT \(Stephen J. Truog\)" <sjtruog at yahoo.com>
Sender: nwu-sports-bounces at tssi.com
Date: Fri, 20 May 2011 12:00:23 
To: <nwu-sports at tssi.com>; Jim Leonard<jleonard518 at yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: [NU Sports] Home night games this fall

> Where can we get an order for 40,000 purple glow sticks?

Did you say purple glowing THUNDER sticks??? :)

But seriously, I agree. HUGE opportunity for Fitz, Persa and the Cats. Prime 
time games at home against mega-name foes (with the bumblebees stuck in between 
at night also!) ... this is a tremendous opportunity on the field.

It's also a huge opportunity off the field - Mr. Phillips has done some great 
things lately to increase the NU brand in Chicago and beyond. Now will come the 
real test. We need Ryan Field to be PACKED with PURPLE for those games. We need 
to have an amazing environment for college football. We've seen the Whiteout at 
Penn State ... Iowa tried a black/gold out ... Madison goes nuts at night (even 
more than usual) ... we need to make Evanston electric for those games. Pregame 
events and postgame fireworks are nice (maybe not for the stadium neighbors ... 
heh heh heh:) ), but we need something that lights up the TV when they see those 
Purple helmets and Fitz jumping on the sideline!

GO CATS!!!
-SjT

* * * * * * * * *
STEPHEN J. TRUOG
sjtruog at yahoo.com
GO CATS!!! GEAUX SAINTS!!!
Super Bowl XLIV Champions!
==========================

> From: Jim Leonard <jleonard518 at yahoo.com>

> Where can we get an order for 40,000 purple glow sticks?

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From tbng at comcast.net  Fri May 20 21:32:27 2011
From: tbng at comcast.net (Dennis W. Brandt)
Date: Fri, 20 May 2011 22:32:27 -0400
Subject: [NU Sports] Pay to Play
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Message-ID: <17B473504A7949159FA713EAC65FDC78@dennismachine>

  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: MHRJGScott at aol.com 
  To: tbng at comcast.net ; nwu-sports at tssi.com 
  Sent: Thursday, May 19, 2011 7:46 PM
  Subject: Re: [NU Sports] Pay to Play



  BAD IDEA!  REALLY BAD!  A full scholarship for four, maybe five years, a 
  special diet, availability of tutors, isn't enough? 

  No not when these kids generate a billion $ and their asst. kicking coach is getting $400,000 per. At least 10 asst coaches in the sec$ are making $800,000 each. Please, give the kids $5,000 so they don't have to steal computers and sell rings.


  Nobody gave me money at NU, and I didn't steal computers and sell rings - or whatever was equivalent in the '60s.  Payment to generate morality.  What a typical wrong-headed liberal idea and one that has never worked.

From sportsbiz at gmail.com  Fri May 20 21:50:27 2011
From: sportsbiz at gmail.com (sports biz.  )
Date: Fri, 20 May 2011 22:50:27 -0400
Subject: [NU Sports] Pay to Play
In-Reply-To: <445532.90696.qm@web36807.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
References: <60ec6.37660bd7.3b06ea76@aol.com>
 <000001cc166f$9bbdcd30$d3396790$@com>
 <2254.64179.qm@web161012.mail.bf1.yahoo.com>
 <001c01cc16ef$bb0a9710$311fc530$@com>
 <FA7822545C26F244823CA5D312ABBDEA0739A805@nasa-dtw-ex006.nasa.cpwr.corp>
 <445532.90696.qm@web36807.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
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Except that the BT and PAC-12 have consistently been against any talk of a playoff.  I think this talk about a stipend is in part a recognition that a scholarship does not cover the basic costs of attending school and a kid from a struggling family, who is unable to have an outside job, has no spending money for dates, laundry or hanging out at a bar.  There is also a court case working its way through the system on the restrictions the NCAA has placed on outside income while prohibiting schools from funding the full cost of attendance.

Mark S. Ament
sportsbiz at gmail.com



On May 20, 2011, at 11:07 AM, Jim Leonard <jleonard518 at yahoo.com> wrote:

> Jeff,
> 
> I think you've hit the name on the head. I would be that this idea is a trial 
> balloon to see if the Big Ten and other major conferences intend to stay with 
> the NCAA. The Big Ten is very close to being self-sufficient and other big 
> conferences would likely follow.
> 
> Jim
> 
>  
> 
> 
> ----- Original Message ----
> From: "Beamsley, Jeff" <Jeff.Beamsley at covisint.com>
> To: Roy S. Lamberton <rstetson at capps-assoc.com>; Tom Maycock 
> <tkmaycock at yahoo.com>; MHRJGScott at aol.com; nwu-sports at tssi.com
> Sent: Fri, May 20, 2011 8:29:17 AM
> Subject: Re: [NU Sports] Pay to Play
> 
> I think it is very interesting that the BT took the first move.
> 
> If the BT is successful in figuring out how to implement and manage
> this, it's going to give BT schools a recruiting advantage.  Wonder if
> the NCAA is going to try to claw back some stronger commitments on
> graduation rates.
> 
> It also sets up an interesting dynamic if the NCAA drags their feet.
> The big conferences could use this issue to threaten to break away from
> the NCAA and implement the post season playoff system that has also been
> a hot topic of discussion.  
> 
> This is definitely another example of how the big conferences can widen
> their competitive advantage over the smaller conferences.
> 
> Jeff
> 
> 
> 
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> From: nwu-sports-bounces at tssi.com [mailto:nwu-sports-bounces at tssi.com]
> On Behalf Of Roy S. Lamberton
> Sent: Friday, May 20, 2011 9:14 AM
> To: 'Tom Maycock'; MHRJGScott at aol.com; nwu-sports at tssi.com
> Subject: Re: [NU Sports] Pay to Play
> 
> My youngest son, who is attending a local university but living off the
> campus, was given
> a credit card with the total amount of his scholarship/loan award to
> spend as he saw fit. 
> 
> 
> 
> He can use the card to pay for tuition, school supplies, a new laptop,
> virtually anything
> you can use a basic credit card for as he finishes his education.
> (including beer at the
> bar)
> 
> 
> 
> Right now, I think athletes have an account with the book store, a meal
> pass at the
> cafeteria and essentially a free ride on fees and tuition. Kids on need
> scholarships get
> additional money to spend as they wish - athletic scholarships limit
> everything to school
> expenses period and the NCAA considers additional money a no-no.
> 
> 
> 
> That kind of thinking leads to the $100 handshake after the game, or a
> $20 slipped into a
> locker - sure times have changed, but the big time booster alums will
> always find a way to
> reward top football and basketball players. 
> 
> 
> 
> What I think everyone is missing is that if you pay football and
> basketball players
> additional money, you have to pay every scholarship sport that "living
> expense" or you
> lose the concept of fairness in the athletic departments. Kids in the
> non-revenue
> producing sports usually get half, third and quarter scholarships. Do
> you then prorate the
> awards?
> 
> 
> 
> I'm sure that is what the NCAA and the big conferences are wrestling
> with right now.
> 
> 
> 
> rsl
> 
> 
> 
> ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
> 
> Roy S. Lamberton - Senior Associate & Unix Guru.
> 
> Computer Applications & Support Associates
> 
> -------------------- Also ----------------------
> 
> "Commissioner" Delaware American Legion Baseball
> 
> Director Media Relations - Little League 
> 
>   Senior League Softball World Series
> 
> CTR2 USN (67-70) - CTRCS USNR (Ret) (64-67/70-95)
> 
> Northwestern University - Speech 1974 - 
> 
> Chi Phi: Pi 1974, KD 1968
> 
> Publisher Emeritus: Purple Reign (Fox Sports)
> 
> ================================================
> 
> Opinions expressed above are mine alone and are not
> 
> those of any organizations of which I am a member.
> 
> ------------------------------------------------
> 
> We the people of the United States, in order to 
> 
> form a more perfect union, establish justice, 
> 
> insure domestic tranquility, provide for the 
> 
> common defense, promote the general welfare, 
> 
> and secure the blessings of liberty to ourselves 
> 
> and our posterity, do ordain and establish 
> 
> this Constitution for the United States of America.
> 
> ==========  Go Cats -  Beat 'em All  ===========
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> From: Tom Maycock [mailto:tkmaycock at yahoo.com] 
> Sent: Thursday, May 19, 2011 6:04 PM
> To: Roy S. Lamberton; MHRJGScott at aol.com; nwu-sports at tssi.com
> Subject: Re: [NU Sports] Pay to Play
> 
> 
> 
> Not kidding--it's been reported in several sources that the B10 is
> looking at the
> possibility of additional stipends of some kind. For example:
> 
> 
> 
> http://www.cbssports.com/collegefootball/story/15079622/sec-commish-sliv
> e-open-to-talk-abo
> ut-full-cost-scholarships
> 
> 
> 
> Tom
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
>   _____  
> 
> 
> From: Roy S. Lamberton <rstetson at capps-assoc.com>
> To: MHRJGScott at aol.com; nwu-sports at tssi.com
> Sent: Thursday, May 19, 2011 4:56 PM
> Subject: Re: [NU Sports] Pay to Play
> 
> Was that Wilbon, or Kornhauser?
> 
> And were they kidding?
> 
> rsl
> 
> ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
> Roy S. Lamberton - Senior Associate & Unix Guru.
> Computer Applications & Support Associates
> -------------------- Also ----------------------
> "Commissioner" Delaware American Legion Baseball
> Director Media Relations - Little League 
>   Senior League Softball World Series
> CTR2 USN (67-70) - CTRCS USNR (Ret) (64-67/70-95)
> Northwestern University - Speech 1974 - 
> Chi Phi: Pi 1974, KD 1968
> Publisher Emeritus: Purple Reign (Fox Sports)
> ================================================
> Opinions expressed above are mine alone and are not
> those of any organizations of which I am a member.
> ------------------------------------------------
> We the people of the United States, in order to 
> form a more perfect union, establish justice, 
> insure domestic tranquility, provide for the 
> common defense, promote the general welfare, 
> and secure the blessings of liberty to ourselves 
> and our posterity, do ordain and establish 
> this Constitution for the United States of America.
> ==========  Go Cats -  Beat 'em All  ===========
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: nwu-sports-bounces at tssi.com [mailto:nwu-sports-bounces at tssi.com]
> On Behalf Of
> MHRJGScott at aol.com
> Sent: Thursday, May 19, 2011 5:50 PM
> To: nwu-sports at tssi.com
> Subject: [NU Sports] Pay to Play
> 
> PTI is reporting that the BT is considering paying football players a
> few  
> grand per year, sounds good to me, comments?
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From tbng at comcast.net  Fri May 20 22:23:02 2011
From: tbng at comcast.net (Dennis W. Brandt)
Date: Fri, 20 May 2011 23:23:02 -0400
Subject: [NU Sports] Pay to Play
References: <60ec6.37660bd7.3b06ea76@aol.com>
 <000001cc166f$9bbdcd30$d3396790$@com>
 <2254.64179.qm@web161012.mail.bf1.yahoo.com>
 <001c01cc16ef$bb0a9710$311fc530$@com>
 <FA7822545C26F244823CA5D312ABBDEA0739A805@nasa-dtw-ex006.nasa.cpwr.corp>
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 <0A8039D2-F14E-4E75-8DFF-DBA1D194BDA7@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <71EB3749508A4F878302809660D4B685@dennismachine>

 <I think this talk about a stipend is in part a recognition that a 
scholarship does not cover the basic costs of attending school and a kid 
from a struggling family.

And who covers the basic costs of attending school for the struggling 
engineering, music, history, etc. student, whose scholarship, if he/she has 
one, likely is only a partial, who works a job to pay the bills, who can 
probably look forward to paying back loans for years to come, doesn't eat at 
a special training table, doesn't have easy access to tutorws, etc.?  Yes, 
those students do not generate revenue for the university - as long as you 
forget the donations they will make to the university for years to come.


From Willie.Weinbaum at espn.com  Wed May 18 18:41:54 2011
From: Willie.Weinbaum at espn.com (Weinbaum, Willie)
Date: Wed, 18 May 2011 19:41:54 -0400
Subject: [NU Sports] Fw: story on alum
Message-ID: <1F89BB2CE7A5B94D969618E8CC769CC36AA665F7@XCHGBRS4.corp.espn.pvt>

Link below to a story about an NU Med School alum, text at link, TV airing at 8:50 tomorrow morning in all time zones on NBC Today Show.

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To: Dotson, Bob (NBCUniversal) <Bob.Dotson at nbcuni.com>
Sent: Wed May 18 15:49:48 2011
Subject: American Story airing at 8:50 tomorrow morning in all time zones...



People always ask me, "Whatever happened to?"

http://today.msnbc.msn.com/id/42590729/ns/today-today_people/

Bob Dotson
American Story with Bob Dotson
NBC News Today Show
30 Rockefeller Plaza
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From scottzel at gmail.com  Fri May 20 23:52:47 2011
From: scottzel at gmail.com (Scott Zeller, M.D.)
Date: Fri, 20 May 2011 21:52:47 -0700
Subject: [NU Sports] Fw: story on alum
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Great story -- and how nice that it says he went to "Northwestern University
Medical School". I just went to my 25-year med school reunion this month and
no one is allowed to call it that any more -- our badges said "Feinberg
School of Medicine," which is not the name of the school I went to. From my
memory "Feinberg" was a buffoon character in the old Don Martin Mad magazine
comics.

But thanks to Mr Feinberg for the $125 million he gave to the med school. He
can certainly name it after himself for doing that, I suppose.

On Wed, May 18, 2011 at 4:41 PM, Weinbaum, Willie
<Willie.Weinbaum at espn.com>wrote:

> Link below to a story about an NU Med School alum, text at link, TV airing
> at 8:50 tomorrow morning in all time zones on NBC Today Show.
>
> ________________________________
> From: Dotson, Bob (NBCUniversal) <Bob.Dotson at nbcuni.com>
> To: Dotson, Bob (NBCUniversal) <Bob.Dotson at nbcuni.com>
> Sent: Wed May 18 15:49:48 2011
> Subject: American Story airing at 8:50 tomorrow morning in all time
> zones...
>
>
>
> People always ask me, "Whatever happened to?"
>
> http://today.msnbc.msn.com/id/42590729/ns/today-today_people/
>
> Bob Dotson
> American Story with Bob Dotson
> NBC News Today Show
> 30 Rockefeller Plaza
> New York, NY 10112
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From airsnod at aol.com  Sat May 21 00:44:34 2011
From: airsnod at aol.com (=?utf-8?B?YWlyc25vZEBhb2wuY29t?=)
Date: Sat, 21 May 2011 00:44:34 -0500
Subject: [NU Sports] =?utf-8?q?Pay_to_Play?=
Message-ID: <201105210544.p4L5iMRn009377@imr-da05.mx.aol.com>

But those struggling students can take any job they want to supplement their scholarship without scrutiny, something athletes can't do. Additionally, as an NROTC student we got a couple hundred bucks a months for miscellaneous expenses. I have no trouble with any scholarship student, athletic or otherwise receiving some money, as long as every school in each division pays the same.

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From: "Dennis W. Brandt" <tbng at comcast.net>
Date: Fri, May 20, 2011 10:23 pm
Subject: [NU Sports] Pay to Play
To: <nwu-sports at tssi.com>

 <I think this talk about a stipend is in part a recognition that a 
scholarship does not cover the basic costs of attending school and a kid 
from a struggling family.

And who covers the basic costs of attending school for the struggling 
engineering, music, history, etc. student, whose scholarship, if he/she has 
one, likely is only a partial, who works a job to pay the bills, who can 
probably look forward to paying back loans for years to come, doesn't eat at 
a special training table, doesn't have easy access to tutorws, etc.?  Yes, 
those students do not generate revenue for the university - as long as you 
forget the donations they will make to the university for years to come.

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From rstetson at capps-assoc.com  Sat May 21 07:26:16 2011
From: rstetson at capps-assoc.com (Roy S. Lamberton)
Date: Sat, 21 May 2011 08:26:16 -0400
Subject: [NU Sports] Pay to Play
In-Reply-To: <201105210544.p4L5iMRn009377@imr-da05.mx.aol.com>
References: <201105210544.p4L5iMRn009377@imr-da05.mx.aol.com>
Message-ID: <002901cc17b2$481adf80$d8509e80$@com>

Most of us have probably forgotten the Texas A&M Quarterback who had a part time job in
Dallas on weekends.

He answered the phone at an oil company office, stayed for free in a company apartment
when working, and drove a company supplied car (A "Z" as O recall) - for this he was paid
around a grand a month.

Then there was the car dealer in Oklahoma who always gave the starting QB and a couple of
his friends a job at the dealership. Eventually the kid only came in to get his paycheck
and get his company car serviced....

Our guys back in those days all had really neat jobs on the Chicago Board of Trade,
(Linebackers made good apprentice floor traders), jobs that were only available to NU
student-athletes.

The rule against part time jobs was put in to stop alums from paying kids to "come to our
school" and the $100 handshake.

There has to be a way for a student athlete to make a few bucks while on campus - most of
non-athletes worked at something part time - I just don't know how you police it to keep
the "bad apples" from ruining the basket again.

rsl

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airsnod at aol.com
Sent: Saturday, May 21, 2011 1:45 AM
To: nwu-sports at tssi.com
Subject: Re: [NU Sports] Pay to Play

But those struggling students can take any job they want to supplement their scholarship
without scrutiny, something athletes can't do. Additionally, as an NROTC student we got a
couple hundred bucks a months for miscellaneous expenses. I have no trouble with any
scholarship student, athletic or otherwise receiving some money, as long as every school
in each division pays the same.

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----- Reply message -----
From: "Dennis W. Brandt" <tbng at comcast.net>
Date: Fri, May 20, 2011 10:23 pm
Subject: [NU Sports] Pay to Play
To: <nwu-sports at tssi.com>

 <I think this talk about a stipend is in part a recognition that a 
scholarship does not cover the basic costs of attending school and a kid 
from a struggling family.

And who covers the basic costs of attending school for the struggling 
engineering, music, history, etc. student, whose scholarship, if he/she has 
one, likely is only a partial, who works a job to pay the bills, who can 
probably look forward to paying back loans for years to come, doesn't eat at 
a special training table, doesn't have easy access to tutorws, etc.?  Yes, 
those students do not generate revenue for the university - as long as you 
forget the donations they will make to the university for years to come.

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From Jeff.Beamsley at covisint.com  Sat May 21 09:03:45 2011
From: Jeff.Beamsley at covisint.com (Beamsley, Jeff)
Date: Sat, 21 May 2011 10:03:45 -0400
Subject: [NU Sports] Pay to Play
References: <65a59.6e26819f.3b0705ca@aol.com>
 <17B473504A7949159FA713EAC65FDC78@dennismachine>
Message-ID: <FA7822545C26F244823CA5D312ABBDEA06BF526B@nasa-dtw-ex006.nasa.cpwr.corp>

Dennis,
 
Your politics are showing again.  You might want to think about zipping that up before something even more embarassing pops out.
 
Here are the facts based on a study last year.
 
http://www.ncpanow.org/research?id=0018 <http://www.ncpanow.org/research?id=0018> 
 
Full athletic scholarships DO NOT cover all education-related expenses.  The average annual estimated shortfall is $2951.  The annual shortfall at NU is $2132.  The annual shortfall at OSU is $4572 which is interesting since the annual tuition at OSU is only $11K.
 
This does not include the cost of other living expenses also not covered by scholarship.   
 
Those of us who have had kids in college recently can attest that it is expensive to live away from home.  Even the best and brightest kids find living on a budget challenging.  Some parents become an ATM.  Some tire of that and insist that their kids find work to cover their additional expenses.
 
The problem, as others have pointed out, is that because of NCAA rules, scholarship athletes don't have the option of working. As Roy pointed out, those rules were put in place to curb the abuses of boosters.
 
If anyone has known a Div I student-athlete, you learn that it is a full-time job in addition to school.  During their sports season, many athletes take a lighter academic schedule to devote more time to practice and play.  During the off season, they focus more on academics including often summer school but still are practicing or training every day.  Between this schedule and eligibility rules, many football players end up staying in school five years.  If you are going to OSU that means that you've got to come up with an additional $23K.  Where is that money going to come from if you can't work and your family can't afford it?  
 
I agree that there is risk to the proposal that the BT has floated, but the reaction of blaming the victim for the crime here is also clearly out of line.  
 
Jeff
 

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  Sent: Thursday, May 19, 2011 7:46 PM
  Subject: Re: [NU Sports] Pay to Play



  BAD IDEA!  REALLY BAD!  A full scholarship for four, maybe five years, a
  special diet, availability of tutors, isn't enough?

  No not when these kids generate a billion $ and their asst. kicking coach is getting $400,000 per. At least 10 asst coaches in the sec$ are making $800,000 each. Please, give the kids $5,000 so they don't have to steal computers and sell rings.


  Nobody gave me money at NU, and I didn't steal computers and sell rings - or whatever was equivalent in the '60s.  Payment to generate morality.  What a typical wrong-headed liberal idea and one that has never worked.
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From MHRJGScott at aol.com  Sat May 21 12:21:41 2011
From: MHRJGScott at aol.com (MHRJGScott at aol.com)
Date: Sat, 21 May 2011 13:21:41 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: [NU Sports] baseball
Message-ID: <5729.3d718c30.3b094ea5@aol.com>

Cats playing sparty now on BT network

From tbng at comcast.net  Sat May 21 12:57:39 2011
From: tbng at comcast.net (Dennis W. Brandt)
Date: Sat, 21 May 2011 13:57:39 -0400
Subject: [NU Sports] Pay to Play
References: <201105210544.p4L5iMRn009377@imr-da05.mx.aol.com>
Message-ID: <F624A45B301349A480AB78C65D703E9D@dennismachine>

> But those struggling students can take any job they want to supplement 
> their scholarship without scrutiny, something athletes can't do. 
> Additionally, as an NROTC student we got a couple hundred bucks a months 
> for miscellaneous expenses. I have no trouble with any scholarship 
> student, athletic or otherwise receiving some money, as long as every 
> school in each division pays the same.
>
And then you go into the military for whatever number of years.  Do football 
players have to serve with the NFL? 


From hakirsch at aol.com  Sat May 21 13:38:35 2011
From: hakirsch at aol.com (hakirsch at aol.com)
Date: Sat, 21 May 2011 18:38:35 +0000
Subject: [NU Sports] Pay to Play
Message-ID: <443242596-1306003118-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-223339520-@b4.c7.bise6.blackberry>

Dennis

Give up. Just because you disagree with athletes getting paid (as I do) doesn't make it a liberal cause. I would bet that the SEC would be the conference most likely to embrace the concept and the last time I looked at voter patterns, the South was not the bastion of wide eyed liberals. 

Harry
------Original Message------
From: Dennis W. Brandt
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To: nwu-sports at tssi.com
To: airsnod at aol.com
ReplyTo: Dennis W. Brandt
Subject: Re: [NU Sports] Pay to Play
Sent: May 21, 2011 10:57 AM

> But those struggling students can take any job they want to supplement 
> their scholarship without scrutiny, something athletes can't do. 
> Additionally, as an NROTC student we got a couple hundred bucks a months 
> for miscellaneous expenses. I have no trouble with any scholarship 
> student, athletic or otherwise receiving some money, as long as every 
> school in each division pays the same.
>
And then you go into the military for whatever number of years.  Do football 
players have to serve with the NFL? 

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From jleonard518 at yahoo.com  Sat May 21 14:31:09 2011
From: jleonard518 at yahoo.com (Jim Leonard)
Date: Sat, 21 May 2011 12:31:09 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [NU Sports] Pay to Play
In-Reply-To: <443242596-1306003118-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-223339520-@b4.c7.bise6.blackberry>
References: <443242596-1306003118-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-223339520-@b4.c7.bise6.blackberry>
Message-ID: <278721.53376.qm@web36807.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

I have been saying for years that I think making loans available to scholarship 
athletes is the right middle ground. Just enough to cover that $4,000 or so a 
year that someone else mentioned. Ideally most kids wouldn't take the loans 
because their families would help, but it would solve the booster/summer job 
controversy and prevent the slippery slope of SEC signing bonuses. 

Go Cats!
Jim




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To: Dennis W. Brandt <tbng at comcast.net>; nwu-sports at tssi.com; airsnod at aol.com
Sent: Sat, May 21, 2011 2:38:35 PM
Subject: Re: [NU Sports] Pay to Play

Dennis

Give up. Just because you disagree with athletes getting paid (as I do) doesn't 
make it a liberal cause. I would bet that the SEC would be the conference most 
likely to embrace the concept and the last time I looked at voter patterns, the 
South was not the bastion of wide eyed liberals. 


Harry
------Original Message------
From: Dennis W. Brandt
Sender: nwu-sports-bounces at tssi.com
To: nwu-sports at tssi.com
To: airsnod at aol.com
ReplyTo: Dennis W. Brandt
Subject: Re: [NU Sports] Pay to Play
Sent: May 21, 2011 10:57 AM

> But those struggling students can take any job they want to supplement 
> their scholarship without scrutiny, something athletes can't do. 
> Additionally, as an NROTC student we got a couple hundred bucks a months 
> for miscellaneous expenses. I have no trouble with any scholarship 
> student, athletic or otherwise receiving some money, as long as every 
> school in each division pays the same.
>
And then you go into the military for whatever number of years.  Do football 
players have to serve with the NFL? 

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From Jeff.Beamsley at covisint.com  Sat May 21 15:25:26 2011
From: Jeff.Beamsley at covisint.com (Beamsley, Jeff)
Date: Sat, 21 May 2011 16:25:26 -0400
Subject: [NU Sports] Pay to Play
References: <443242596-1306003118-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-223339520-@b4.c7.bise6.blackberry>
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Message-ID: <FA7822545C26F244823CA5D312ABBDEA06BF526E@nasa-dtw-ex006.nasa.cpwr.corp>

Or simply increase the scholarship to cover the current gap in expenses.  The only athletes who even receive full rides these days are football and basketball players.  Everybody else gets a partial scholarship and has to make up the difference with loans, work, and/or family help.  
 
Since there appears to be no practical way to keep boosters and their money out of sports, I agree that it makes sense to reduce the demand by making sure that athletes who are banned from working can at least cover their expenses.
 
Jeff


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Subject: Re: [NU Sports] Pay to Play



I have been saying for years that I think making loans available to scholarship
athletes is the right middle ground. Just enough to cover that $4,000 or so a
year that someone else mentioned. Ideally most kids wouldn't take the loans
because their families would help, but it would solve the booster/summer job
controversy and prevent the slippery slope of SEC signing bonuses.

Go Cats!
Jim




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To: Dennis W. Brandt <tbng at comcast.net>; nwu-sports at tssi.com; airsnod at aol.com
Sent: Sat, May 21, 2011 2:38:35 PM
Subject: Re: [NU Sports] Pay to Play

Dennis

Give up. Just because you disagree with athletes getting paid (as I do) doesn't
make it a liberal cause. I would bet that the SEC would be the conference most
likely to embrace the concept and the last time I looked at voter patterns, the
South was not the bastion of wide eyed liberals.


Harry
------Original Message------
From: Dennis W. Brandt
Sender: nwu-sports-bounces at tssi.com
To: nwu-sports at tssi.com
To: airsnod at aol.com
ReplyTo: Dennis W. Brandt
Subject: Re: [NU Sports] Pay to Play
Sent: May 21, 2011 10:57 AM

> But those struggling students can take any job they want to supplement
> their scholarship without scrutiny, something athletes can't do.
> Additionally, as an NROTC student we got a couple hundred bucks a months
> for miscellaneous expenses. I have no trouble with any scholarship
> student, athletic or otherwise receiving some money, as long as every
> school in each division pays the same.
>
And then you go into the military for whatever number of years.  Do football
players have to serve with the NFL?

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From AirSnod at aol.com  Sat May 21 15:40:08 2011
From: AirSnod at aol.com (AirSnod at aol.com)
Date: Sat, 21 May 2011 16:40:08 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: [NU Sports] baseball
Message-ID: <7ad10.5382af81.3b097d28@aol.com>

Great game! Too little too late, though.

From sportsbiz at gmail.com  Sat May 21 16:16:23 2011
From: sportsbiz at gmail.com (Sportsbiz)
Date: Sat, 21 May 2011 17:16:23 -0400
Subject: [NU Sports] Pay to Play
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Harry,
The SEC would be the conference most likely to abuse the concept not
embrace....
Mark

PS.  Alert to Cubs fans: Fitz is singing during Tuesday's 7th inning
stretch.

On Sat, May 21, 2011 at 2:38 PM, <hakirsch at aol.com> wrote:

> Dennis
>
> Give up. Just because you disagree with athletes getting paid (as I do)
> doesn't make it a liberal cause. I would bet that the SEC would be the
> conference most likely to embrace the concept and the last time I looked at
> voter patterns, the South was not the bastion of wide eyed liberals.
>
> Harry
> ------Original Message------
> From: Dennis W. Brandt
> Sender: nwu-sports-bounces at tssi.com
> To: nwu-sports at tssi.com
> To: airsnod at aol.com
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> Subject: Re: [NU Sports] Pay to Play
> Sent: May 21, 2011 10:57 AM
>
> > But those struggling students can take any job they want to supplement
> > their scholarship without scrutiny, something athletes can't do.
> > Additionally, as an NROTC student we got a couple hundred bucks a months
> > for miscellaneous expenses. I have no trouble with any scholarship
> > student, athletic or otherwise receiving some money, as long as every
> > school in each division pays the same.
> >
> And then you go into the military for whatever number of years.  Do
> football
> players have to serve with the NFL?
>
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From rstetson at capps-assoc.com  Sat May 21 16:39:39 2011
From: rstetson at capps-assoc.com (Roy S. Lamberton)
Date: Sat, 21 May 2011 17:39:39 -0400
Subject: [NU Sports] Pay to Play
In-Reply-To: <BANLkTinxD1ojOoX+i17Rk6i9jvy0nTyb=A@mail.gmail.com>
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Look, I'm sure the reason that the SEC and Southwest Conference players don't get caught
selling stuff is that they get assisted in other ways.

In Dallas, it was always amazing how an African American kid with great football skills'
father would get a job that allowed him to live in Highland Park so he could star as a
running back. Those kids went on to get a great education, and full ride scholarship. Was
it fair to the town where they used to live? No, but it was how Highland Park played in so
many title games.

The SMU Pony express was born out of a couple of alums who were determined to finally have
a winner - they cost SMU football for many years (they're still not back) but they got
their big winner.

NU has the same kind of alums, people with lots of money who really want NU to succeed,
but they've been steered to giving to things that don't tear down our basic fabric of
trying to play by the rules, and living with the consequences.  As I said, there was a
time in NU's history where athletes got off campus jobs that paid very, very well. When
the NCAA stopped the practice, NU did away with those jobs.

I personally see no problem with a $200 - $500 stipend for personal expenses, similar to
what the ROTC guys get in addition to their scholarships. During the one semester I got
that (at U of Rochester), it allowed me a lot a freedom to do things that as a pure
student, I never would have been able to afford. BTW, you get a W-2 for that monthly
stipend, it's actually Midshipman pay.

Every year, the American Legion Baseball committee in Delaware awards a kid a $500-700
scholarship. I can be spent on anything academic, but it frees up family money so the kid
can have a little leeway while at school. The notes we get from the kids and their parents
make all the work involved in running the program worthwhile.

I guess I'm now in the Yes column.

rsl

++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
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Computer Applications & Support Associates
-------------------- Also ----------------------
"Commissioner" Delaware American Legion Baseball
Director Media Relations - Little League 
  Senior League Softball World Series
CTR2 USN (67-70) - CTRCS USNR (Ret) (64-67/70-95)
Northwestern University - Speech 1974 - 
Chi Phi: Pi 1974, KD 1968
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We the people of the United States, in order to 
form a more perfect union, establish justice, 
insure domestic tranquility, provide for the 
common defense, promote the general welfare, 
and secure the blessings of liberty to ourselves 
and our posterity, do ordain and establish 
this Constitution for the United States of America.
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-----Original Message-----
From: nwu-sports-bounces at tssi.com [mailto:nwu-sports-bounces at tssi.com] On Behalf Of
Sportsbiz
Sent: Saturday, May 21, 2011 5:16 PM
To: hakirsch at aol.com
Cc: Dennis W. Brandt; nwu-sports at tssi.com
Subject: Re: [NU Sports] Pay to Play

Harry,
The SEC would be the conference most likely to abuse the concept not
embrace....
Mark

PS.  Alert to Cubs fans: Fitz is singing during Tuesday's 7th inning
stretch.

On Sat, May 21, 2011 at 2:38 PM, <hakirsch at aol.com> wrote:

> Dennis
>
> Give up. Just because you disagree with athletes getting paid (as I do)
> doesn't make it a liberal cause. I would bet that the SEC would be the
> conference most likely to embrace the concept and the last time I looked at
> voter patterns, the South was not the bastion of wide eyed liberals.
>
> Harry
> ------Original Message------
> From: Dennis W. Brandt
> Sender: nwu-sports-bounces at tssi.com
> To: nwu-sports at tssi.com
> To: airsnod at aol.com
> ReplyTo: Dennis W. Brandt
> Subject: Re: [NU Sports] Pay to Play
> Sent: May 21, 2011 10:57 AM
>
> > But those struggling students can take any job they want to supplement
> > their scholarship without scrutiny, something athletes can't do.
> > Additionally, as an NROTC student we got a couple hundred bucks a months
> > for miscellaneous expenses. I have no trouble with any scholarship
> > student, athletic or otherwise receiving some money, as long as every
> > school in each division pays the same.
> >
> And then you go into the military for whatever number of years.  Do
> football
> players have to serve with the NFL?
>
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From michael.vance at att.net  Sat May 21 16:49:19 2011
From: michael.vance at att.net (Michael Vance)
Date: Sat, 21 May 2011 17:49:19 -0400
Subject: [NU Sports] Pay to Play
In-Reply-To: <F624A45B301349A480AB78C65D703E9D@dennismachine>
References: <201105210544.p4L5iMRn009377@imr-da05.mx.aol.com>
 <F624A45B301349A480AB78C65D703E9D@dennismachine>
Message-ID: <B1F34F4B-489A-4923-93DB-DC5F869FFB3E@att.net>

The military is not for everyone. No single job or employer is. And at still doesn't solve the problem of where they get the money while they are in school. I doubt you want the government to loan it to them with a promise of military service to repay. And if left to the private sector, there will be abuses, leading to more regulation and scrutiny by the NCAA. 

I still say base it on the official "cost of attendance" figures that every school publishes. That's what everyone else's financial aid package is based on. If you're going to call it a "full ride" scholarship, then make it so.

-Michael
Sent from my mobile device...

On May 21, 2011, at 1:57 PM, "Dennis W. Brandt" <tbng at comcast.net> wrote:

>> But those struggling students can take any job they want to supplement their scholarship without scrutiny, something athletes can't do. Additionally, as an NROTC student we got a couple hundred bucks a months for miscellaneous expenses. I have no trouble with any scholarship student, athletic or otherwise receiving some money, as long as every school in each division pays the same.
>> 
> And then you go into the military for whatever number of years.  Do football players have to serve with the NFL? 
> _______________________________________________
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From hakirsch at aol.com  Sat May 21 17:21:10 2011
From: hakirsch at aol.com (hakirsch at aol.com)
Date: Sat, 21 May 2011 22:21:10 +0000
Subject: [NU Sports] Pay to Play
In-Reply-To: <B1F34F4B-489A-4923-93DB-DC5F869FFB3E@att.net>
References: <201105210544.p4L5iMRn009377@imr-da05.mx.aol.com><F624A45B301349A480AB78C65D703E9D@dennismachine><B1F34F4B-489A-4923-93DB-DC5F869FFB3E@att.net>
Message-ID: <148741267-1306016471-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-452894119-@b4.c7.bise6.blackberry>

While I'm in the "no" column I understand the issues. When I was at NU in the mid to late 70's the issue was debated in the Daily. The general consensus seem to agree that no jobs should be allowed during the school year but that a summer job should be enough to earn "beer money". I suppose today with many of the lighter class  loads being made up during the summer, it is now be a lot tougher. Still the thought of getting paid cash for playing college sports just rankles me. Sure you get the free ride but you have to play for that school, so you have no choice but to enroll there, so you in effect get your money back, and don't get paid. When an amateur golfer wins an open, I think he or she gets equipment

Harry
Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry

-----Original Message-----
From: Michael Vance <michael.vance at att.net>
Sender: nwu-sports-bounces at tssi.com
Date: Sat, 21 May 2011 17:49:19 
To: <nwu-sports at tssi.com>
Subject: Re: [NU Sports] Pay to Play

The military is not for everyone. No single job or employer is. And at still doesn't solve the problem of where they get the money while they are in school. I doubt you want the government to loan it to them with a promise of military service to repay. And if left to the private sector, there will be abuses, leading to more regulation and scrutiny by the NCAA. 

I still say base it on the official "cost of attendance" figures that every school publishes. That's what everyone else's financial aid package is based on. If you're going to call it a "full ride" scholarship, then make it so.

-Michael
Sent from my mobile device...

On May 21, 2011, at 1:57 PM, "Dennis W. Brandt" <tbng at comcast.net> wrote:

>> But those struggling students can take any job they want to supplement their scholarship without scrutiny, something athletes can't do. Additionally, as an NROTC student we got a couple hundred bucks a months for miscellaneous expenses. I have no trouble with any scholarship student, athletic or otherwise receiving some money, as long as every school in each division pays the same.
>> 
> And then you go into the military for whatever number of years.  Do football players have to serve with the NFL? 
> _______________________________________________
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From rstetson at capps-assoc.com  Sat May 21 18:08:03 2011
From: rstetson at capps-assoc.com (Roy S. Lamberton)
Date: Sat, 21 May 2011 19:08:03 -0400
Subject: [NU Sports] Pay to Play
In-Reply-To: <148741267-1306016471-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-452894119-@b4.c7.bise6.blackberry>
References: <201105210544.p4L5iMRn009377@imr-da05.mx.aol.com><F624A45B301349A480AB78C65D703E9D@dennismachine><B1F34F4B-489A-4923-93DB-DC5F869FFB3E@att.net>
 <148741267-1306016471-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-452894119-@b4.c7.bise6.blackberry>
Message-ID: <000901cc180b$f06db410$d1491c30$@com>

As I remember, those great board of trade jobs that the footballers got were all summer
gigs

rsl

++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
Roy S. Lamberton - Senior Associate & Unix Guru.
Computer Applications & Support Associates
-------------------- Also ----------------------
"Commissioner" Delaware American Legion Baseball
Director Media Relations - Little League 
  Senior League Softball World Series
CTR2 USN (67-70) - CTRCS USNR (Ret) (64-67/70-95)
Northwestern University - Speech 1974 - 
Chi Phi: Pi 1974, KD 1968
Publisher Emeritus: Purple Reign (Fox Sports)
================================================
Opinions expressed above are mine alone and are not
those of any organizations of which I am a member.
------------------------------------------------
We the people of the United States, in order to 
form a more perfect union, establish justice, 
insure domestic tranquility, provide for the 
common defense, promote the general welfare, 
and secure the blessings of liberty to ourselves 
and our posterity, do ordain and establish 
this Constitution for the United States of America.
==========  Go Cats -? Beat 'em All  ===========


-----Original Message-----
From: nwu-sports-bounces at tssi.com [mailto:nwu-sports-bounces at tssi.com] On Behalf Of
hakirsch at aol.com
Sent: Saturday, May 21, 2011 6:21 PM
To: Michael Vance; nwu-sports-bounces at tssi.com; nwu-sports at tssi.com
Subject: Re: [NU Sports] Pay to Play

While I'm in the "no" column I understand the issues. When I was at NU in the mid to late
70's the issue was debated in the Daily. The general consensus seem to agree that no jobs
should be allowed during the school year but that a summer job should be enough to earn
"beer money". I suppose today with many of the lighter class  loads being made up during
the summer, it is now be a lot tougher. Still the thought of getting paid cash for playing
college sports just rankles me. Sure you get the free ride but you have to play for that
school, so you have no choice but to enroll there, so you in effect get your money back,
and don't get paid. When an amateur golfer wins an open, I think he or she gets equipment

Harry
Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry

-----Original Message-----
From: Michael Vance <michael.vance at att.net>
Sender: nwu-sports-bounces at tssi.com
Date: Sat, 21 May 2011 17:49:19 
To: <nwu-sports at tssi.com>
Subject: Re: [NU Sports] Pay to Play

The military is not for everyone. No single job or employer is. And at still doesn't solve
the problem of where they get the money while they are in school. I doubt you want the
government to loan it to them with a promise of military service to repay. And if left to
the private sector, there will be abuses, leading to more regulation and scrutiny by the
NCAA. 

I still say base it on the official "cost of attendance" figures that every school
publishes. That's what everyone else's financial aid package is based on. If you're going
to call it a "full ride" scholarship, then make it so.

-Michael
Sent from my mobile device...

On May 21, 2011, at 1:57 PM, "Dennis W. Brandt" <tbng at comcast.net> wrote:

>> But those struggling students can take any job they want to supplement their
scholarship without scrutiny, something athletes can't do. Additionally, as an NROTC
student we got a couple hundred bucks a months for miscellaneous expenses. I have no
trouble with any scholarship student, athletic or otherwise receiving some money, as long
as every school in each division pays the same.
>> 
> And then you go into the military for whatever number of years.  Do football players
have to serve with the NFL? 
> _______________________________________________
> nwu-sports site list
> nwu-sports at tssi.com
> http://romaine.tssi.com/mailman/listinfo/nwu-sports

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From Willie.Weinbaum at espn.com  Sat May 21 21:00:29 2011
From: Willie.Weinbaum at espn.com (Weinbaum, Willie)
Date: Sat, 21 May 2011 22:00:29 -0400
Subject: [NU Sports] In the Final Four again...how about that...
Message-ID: <1F89BB2CE7A5B94D969618E8CC769CC36B6BAD09@XCHGBRS4.corp.espn.pvt>

The Cats' women's lacrosse team just won and earned a berth in the national semis next weekend at Stony Brook!

From alan.abrahamson at gmail.com  Sat May 21 21:22:47 2011
From: alan.abrahamson at gmail.com (Alan Abrahamson)
Date: Sat, 21 May 2011 19:22:47 -0700
Subject: [NU Sports] This thought
Message-ID: <BANLkTim9_coZnn-kHXD_ZCCE-w6n30sgeg@mail.gmail.com>

Sorry to disappoint any and all non-believers, ladies and gentlemen, but the
rapture will not -- contrary to advertisement -- be upon us tonight.

Why? Because football season is still upcoming and the Wildcats are not only
going to beat up on Big Red but, verily, return to the Rose Bowl.

Just thought I'd throw that out there on this perfectly pleasant SoCal
Saturday night.

Go Cats!

From MHRJGScott at aol.com  Sat May 21 21:49:28 2011
From: MHRJGScott at aol.com (MHRJGScott at aol.com)
Date: Sat, 21 May 2011 22:49:28 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: [NU Sports] This thought
Message-ID: <4208.7ba6bf3f.3b09d3b8@aol.com>

I imagine the whole rapture idea was concocted by them hippies in SoCal, or 
 was it West Virginia, doesn't matter. The booster stuff happened at NU as 
I  participated in hiring football players to move furniture, talk about a 
soft  job. Drag a fireproof filling cabinet up a flight of stairs, or a baby 
grand up  a spiral staircase, those kids earned every dollar. North Shore 
Movers supported  the program, and still does.

From scottzel at gmail.com  Sat May 21 23:13:19 2011
From: scottzel at gmail.com (Scott Zeller, M.D.)
Date: Sat, 21 May 2011 21:13:19 -0700
Subject: [NU Sports] This thought
In-Reply-To: <4208.7ba6bf3f.3b09d3b8@aol.com>
References: <4208.7ba6bf3f.3b09d3b8@aol.com>
Message-ID: <BANLkTi=vxS2h+zW3bE_s7sGhKVvD6kjb8w@mail.gmail.com>

We live quite close to Oakland, CA, where the preacher who came up with the
Rapture date of today bases his ministry. We had an earthquake here at 7:04
PM, just an hour after he said! It was a little eery. Just a teeny
earthquake though, a 3.6 -- rattled the windows a little bit, that's all.

On Sat, May 21, 2011 at 7:49 PM, <MHRJGScott at aol.com> wrote:

> I imagine the whole rapture idea was concocted by them hippies in SoCal, or
>  was it West Virginia, doesn't matter. The booster stuff happened at NU as
> I  participated in hiring football players to move furniture, talk about a
> soft  job. Drag a fireproof filling cabinet up a flight of stairs, or a
> baby
> grand up  a spiral staircase, those kids earned every dollar. North Shore
> Movers supported  the program, and still does.
> _______________________________________________
> nwu-sports site list
> nwu-sports at tssi.com
> http://romaine.tssi.com/mailman/listinfo/nwu-sports
>

From hakirsch at aol.com  Sun May 22 00:14:55 2011
From: hakirsch at aol.com (hakirsch at aol.com)
Date: Sun, 22 May 2011 05:14:55 +0000
Subject: [NU Sports] Pay to Play
In-Reply-To: <BANLkTinxD1ojOoX+i17Rk6i9jvy0nTyb=A@mail.gmail.com>
References: <443242596-1306003118-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-223339520-@b4.c7.bise6.blackberry><BANLkTinxD1ojOoX+i17Rk6i9jvy0nTyb=A@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <174427192-1306041297-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-840308819-@b4.c7.bise6.blackberry>

Well I meant embrace since that would then enable them to abuse


Harry
Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry

-----Original Message-----
From: Sportsbiz <sportsbiz at gmail.com>
Date: Sat, 21 May 2011 17:16:23 
To: <hakirsch at aol.com>
Cc: Dennis W. Brandt<tbng at comcast.net>; <nwu-sports at tssi.com>; <airsnod at aol.com>
Subject: Re: [NU Sports] Pay to Play

Harry,
The SEC would be the conference most likely to abuse the concept not
embrace....
Mark

PS.  Alert to Cubs fans: Fitz is singing during Tuesday's 7th inning
stretch.

On Sat, May 21, 2011 at 2:38 PM, <hakirsch at aol.com> wrote:

> Dennis
>
> Give up. Just because you disagree with athletes getting paid (as I do)
> doesn't make it a liberal cause. I would bet that the SEC would be the
> conference most likely to embrace the concept and the last time I looked at
> voter patterns, the South was not the bastion of wide eyed liberals.
>
> Harry
> ------Original Message------
> From: Dennis W. Brandt
> Sender: nwu-sports-bounces at tssi.com
> To: nwu-sports at tssi.com
> To: airsnod at aol.com
> ReplyTo: Dennis W. Brandt
> Subject: Re: [NU Sports] Pay to Play
> Sent: May 21, 2011 10:57 AM
>
> > But those struggling students can take any job they want to supplement
> > their scholarship without scrutiny, something athletes can't do.
> > Additionally, as an NROTC student we got a couple hundred bucks a months
> > for miscellaneous expenses. I have no trouble with any scholarship
> > student, athletic or otherwise receiving some money, as long as every
> > school in each division pays the same.
> >
> And then you go into the military for whatever number of years.  Do
> football
> players have to serve with the NFL?
>
> _______________________________________________
> nwu-sports site list
> nwu-sports at tssi.com
> http://romaine.tssi.com/mailman/listinfo/nwu-sports
>
>
> Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry
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From rstetson at capps-assoc.com  Sun May 22 06:18:15 2011
From: rstetson at capps-assoc.com (Roy S. Lamberton)
Date: Sun, 22 May 2011 07:18:15 -0400
Subject: [NU Sports] This thought
In-Reply-To: <BANLkTi=vxS2h+zW3bE_s7sGhKVvD6kjb8w@mail.gmail.com>
References: <4208.7ba6bf3f.3b09d3b8@aol.com>
 <BANLkTi=vxS2h+zW3bE_s7sGhKVvD6kjb8w@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <001501cc1871$f203d410$d60b7c30$@com>

It was right after the Sabbath ended after all, one has to accept that God still rests on
that day, so a major quake would be just too much work.

So now, we of the Christian persuasion must get to work - its Sunday, time for Church.

rsl

++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
Roy S. Lamberton - Senior Associate & Unix Guru.
Computer Applications & Support Associates
-------------------- Also ----------------------
"Commissioner" Delaware American Legion Baseball
Director Media Relations - Little League 
  Senior League Softball World Series
CTR2 USN (67-70) - CTRCS USNR (Ret) (64-67/70-95)
Northwestern University - Speech 1974 - 
Chi Phi: Pi 1974, KD 1968
Publisher Emeritus: Purple Reign (Fox Sports)
================================================
Opinions expressed above are mine alone and are not
those of any organizations of which I am a member.
------------------------------------------------
We the people of the United States, in order to 
form a more perfect union, establish justice, 
insure domestic tranquility, provide for the 
common defense, promote the general welfare, 
and secure the blessings of liberty to ourselves 
and our posterity, do ordain and establish 
this Constitution for the United States of America.
==========  Go Cats -? Beat 'em All  ===========



-----Original Message-----
From: nwu-sports-bounces at tssi.com [mailto:nwu-sports-bounces at tssi.com] On Behalf Of Scott
Zeller, M.D.
Sent: Sunday, May 22, 2011 12:13 AM
To: nwu-sports at tssi.com
Subject: Re: [NU Sports] This thought

We live quite close to Oakland, CA, where the preacher who came up with the
Rapture date of today bases his ministry. We had an earthquake here at 7:04
PM, just an hour after he said! It was a little eery. Just a teeny
earthquake though, a 3.6 -- rattled the windows a little bit, that's all.

On Sat, May 21, 2011 at 7:49 PM, <MHRJGScott at aol.com> wrote:

> I imagine the whole rapture idea was concocted by them hippies in SoCal, or
>  was it West Virginia, doesn't matter. The booster stuff happened at NU as
> I  participated in hiring football players to move furniture, talk about a
> soft  job. Drag a fireproof filling cabinet up a flight of stairs, or a
> baby
> grand up  a spiral staircase, those kids earned every dollar. North Shore
> Movers supported  the program, and still does.
> _______________________________________________
> nwu-sports site list
> nwu-sports at tssi.com
> http://romaine.tssi.com/mailman/listinfo/nwu-sports
>
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From Jeff.Beamsley at covisint.com  Sun May 22 10:54:37 2011
From: Jeff.Beamsley at covisint.com (Beamsley, Jeff)
Date: Sun, 22 May 2011 11:54:37 -0400
Subject: [NU Sports] This thought
References: <4208.7ba6bf3f.3b09d3b8@aol.com>
 <BANLkTi=vxS2h+zW3bE_s7sGhKVvD6kjb8w@mail.gmail.com>
 <001501cc1871$f203d410$d60b7c30$@com>
Message-ID: <FA7822545C26F244823CA5D312ABBDEA06BF526F@nasa-dtw-ex006.nasa.cpwr.corp>

Woke up this morning next to my lovely wife.  The birds were signing.  The sun was shining.  The grass was green. The flowers, bushes, and trees were all in bloom.  The aroma of lilac and lillies of the valley filled the clean clear air.  Hummingbirds darted among the lilacs and verbena.  My daughter was visiting, asleep in her bedroom.  The dogs were stretching, nuzzling my hand to remind me that they were hungry.  It was the rapture.  Or at least as close as you're going to get here in Michigan.  Don't need the threat of judgment day to appeciate the simple blessings we enjoy every day.
 
Jeff
 


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Sent: Sun 5/22/2011 7:18 AM
To: 'Scott Zeller, M.D.'; nwu-sports at tssi.com
Subject: Re: [NU Sports] This thought



It was right after the Sabbath ended after all, one has to accept that God still rests on
that day, so a major quake would be just too much work.

So now, we of the Christian persuasion must get to work - its Sunday, time for Church.

rsl

++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
Roy S. Lamberton - Senior Associate & Unix Guru.
Computer Applications & Support Associates
-------------------- Also ----------------------
"Commissioner" Delaware American Legion Baseball
Director Media Relations - Little League
  Senior League Softball World Series
CTR2 USN (67-70) - CTRCS USNR (Ret) (64-67/70-95)
Northwestern University - Speech 1974 -
Chi Phi: Pi 1974, KD 1968
Publisher Emeritus: Purple Reign (Fox Sports)
================================================
Opinions expressed above are mine alone and are not
those of any organizations of which I am a member.
------------------------------------------------
We the people of the United States, in order to
form a more perfect union, establish justice,
insure domestic tranquility, provide for the
common defense, promote the general welfare,
and secure the blessings of liberty to ourselves
and our posterity, do ordain and establish
this Constitution for the United States of America.
==========  Go Cats -  Beat 'em All  ===========



-----Original Message-----
From: nwu-sports-bounces at tssi.com [mailto:nwu-sports-bounces at tssi.com] On Behalf Of Scott
Zeller, M.D.
Sent: Sunday, May 22, 2011 12:13 AM
To: nwu-sports at tssi.com
Subject: Re: [NU Sports] This thought

We live quite close to Oakland, CA, where the preacher who came up with the
Rapture date of today bases his ministry. We had an earthquake here at 7:04
PM, just an hour after he said! It was a little eery. Just a teeny
earthquake though, a 3.6 -- rattled the windows a little bit, that's all.

On Sat, May 21, 2011 at 7:49 PM, <MHRJGScott at aol.com> wrote:

> I imagine the whole rapture idea was concocted by them hippies in SoCal, or
>  was it West Virginia, doesn't matter. The booster stuff happened at NU as
> I  participated in hiring football players to move furniture, talk about a
> soft  job. Drag a fireproof filling cabinet up a flight of stairs, or a
> baby
> grand up  a spiral staircase, those kids earned every dollar. North Shore
> Movers supported  the program, and still does.
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From MHRJGScott at aol.com  Tue May 24 15:21:48 2011
From: MHRJGScott at aol.com (MHRJGScott at aol.com)
Date: Tue, 24 May 2011 16:21:48 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: [NU Sports] Fitz
Message-ID: <25692.bd3c015.3b0d6d5c@aol.com>

Sings at the Cubs Mets game tonight on WGN which is the only reason to  
watch those two sorry teams. Go Bulls.

From s-hargadon at northwestern.edu  Tue May 24 17:14:01 2011
From: s-hargadon at northwestern.edu (Sean Hargadon)
Date: Tue, 24 May 2011 17:14:01 -0500
Subject: [NU Sports] Alumni tailgate photos
Message-ID: <F04C6B23-5E01-47D5-BF46-D2324343AD00@northwestern.edu>

Hello, Wildcat fans, 
Northwestern magazine is looking for photos of alumni tailgates ? home or away. Please send your pics to photos at northwestern.edu. 
Thanks for your help. 
Sean
--
Sean Hargadon
Senior Editor
Northwestern magazine
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Evanston, IL 60208-1800

Phone: 847-467-6941
Fax: 847-491-3040
E-mail: s-hargadon at northwestern.edu
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From tkmaycock at yahoo.com  Thu May 26 15:41:37 2011
From: tkmaycock at yahoo.com (Tom Maycock)
Date: Thu, 26 May 2011 13:41:37 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [NU Sports] In the Final Four again...how about that...
In-Reply-To: <1F89BB2CE7A5B94D969618E8CC769CC36B6BAD09@XCHGBRS4.corp.espn.pvt>
References: <1F89BB2CE7A5B94D969618E8CC769CC36B6BAD09@XCHGBRS4.corp.espn.pvt>
Message-ID: <227534.3056.qm@web161015.mail.bf1.yahoo.com>

OK, I've been "lax" in commenting on the "Lax" team this year, but was prompted 
to post by the announcement that the Big Ten Network will be carrying the final 
four Women's Lacrosse games:

http://nusports.cstv.com/sports/w-lacros/spec-rel/052611aab.html

Much to my surprise, I had just found out via a forum thread at laxpower that 
CBS College Sports network wasn't carrying the final four games this year as 
they had in the past. So, as of this morning, the only way to watch was going to 
be the NCAA live internet feed (which Buffalo Wild Wings in Evanston was picking 
up). 

Pretty sad step backward, and I was actually wondering whether there might be an 
opportunity for the BTN to step in, particularly given this week's news that 
Michigan would be stepping up their men's and women's programs to D1 over the 
next couple of years. 

And sure enough, the BTN made it happen. First game will be tape delayed 
following baseball at 9:30 or thereabouts (you can still watch the stream live 
starting at 6:30pm Central), and then the championship game will be aired live. 
Now if NU can just make it to that game!

It's been an interesting year for the Cats. We've had an absolutely miserable 
spring weather-wise here in Chicago, with February-esque conditions prevailing 
through March, April, and May (it's cold, windy, and wet out AGAIN today). The 
weather has been especially nasty for almost every Lax home game--horizontal 
snow, 30mph wind/40 degree mists, and so on. As a result, we missed several home 
games, and I wondered if ugly practice conditions might slow development of the 
team--although I think they do practice indoors sometimes. 

The team started off well, winning some tough early matchups, but then struggled 
with back-to-back losses against fast-rising Florida and Johns Hopkins. The step 
backward wasn't terribly surprising, given the overall youth of this team in 
what is clearly a bit of a rebuilding year. To my outsider eyes, they 
also seemed to be lacking some of enthusiasm, and perhaps some of the vocal 
leadership, of past teams. Lamanto also had a shaky few games in goal, which was 
very unusual. 

Since then, however, the defense has really started to crank it up, "Breezy" 
seemed to get her mojo back between the pipes, the offense has developed a much 
better flow, and Shannon Smith has been on an absolute tear scoring goals and 
dishing out assists (Shannon *not* being named ALC player of the year may have 
been the best thing to happen to the Cats--I think she's scored 5 goals in every 
game since then). 

The Cats exacted revenge over Florda in a tight conference title game, secured a 
hard-fought win over BC in the first round NCAA game, and then played easily 
their best game of the year in a complete dismantling of Albany last Saturday. 
The enthusiasm seems back in a big way. 

They play North Carolina on Friday--a team they beat in OT on the road earlier 
this year, so that's clearly a tough but winnable game. If they get by NC, it's 
hard to see this team upsetting Maryland for the championship, but anything is 
possible. 

Meanwhile, Taylor Thornton has built on the pure speed she displayed last year 
with ever-improving skills at picking up loose balls and causing turnovers. 
There's nothing more entertaining at a home game then hearing the crowd go nuts 
when she takes off on one of her patented end-to-end one woman clears, blowing 
past defenders who look like they are running in mud. 

Should be fun to watch Friday's game. I just have to decide whether to watch the 
stream live or wait for the BTN delay.

Tom


From j-hodges at alumni.northwestern.edu  Thu May 26 16:24:32 2011
From: j-hodges at alumni.northwestern.edu (Jonathan Hodges)
Date: Thu, 26 May 2011 16:24:32 -0500
Subject: [NU Sports] Fwd: Call to action: Northwestern Varsity Dance Team
In-Reply-To: <BANLkTi=x8-0SxKr2YCdJ2Eoo4nP2ZQxJ6Q@mail.gmail.com>
References: <BANLkTimynbitUCBQ-5eb59QGqSWs2r7Dbg@mail.gmail.com>
 <BANLkTin3QC3nQmD9BgxkK6covVM5wckXcg@mail.gmail.com>
 <BANLkTim7ExR7KJ0iSV4H9nLkS=ms4o9E4g@mail.gmail.com>
 <BANLkTimVW8sBb+ZPCj-9GXQ1DLJguxo+hQ@mail.gmail.com>
 <BANLkTikDOeMTpV5O_0R6J3L=YSO3EnJhdA@mail.gmail.com>
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Message-ID: <BANLkTimtMi-mnVB8ohbFuzY93ChzEPEvZw@mail.gmail.com>

Just passing along

--
Jonathan W. Hodges
---------- Forwarded message ----------
From: "Brittany Petersen" <brittany.lynn.petersen at gmail.com>
Date: May 26, 2011 4:21 PM
Subject: Fwd: Call to action: Northwestern Varsity Dance Team
To: <BONEHEADS at listserv.it.northwestern.edu>

I haven't verified this information, but it'd be a huge bummer if they cut
the Ladycats.

--
Brittany Petersen
@britpetersen | (847) 620-9907
http://brittany-petersen.blogspot.com


---------- Forwarded message ----------
From: Lynnanne Nguyen <lynnanne.nguyen at gmail.com>
Date: Thu, May 26, 2011 at 4:09 PM
Subject: Call to action: Northwestern Varsity Dance Team


Hey guys,

Please read the message below. The athletic department is cutting the entire
dance team program next year. I have a couple friends on the Ladycats and
this is devastating to them right now. I know we'd all be crushed and
angry if they did something crazy like cut NUMB so it's really important to
show our support for them. We love our Ladycats after all (as we say each
game!); they cheer the team on every week just like us and it's important to
stick by others in purple!

Please spread the news anywhere you can, I'm sure the team would really
appreciate it!

---------- Forwarded message ----------
From: Sarah Kuta <sarahkuta2012 at u.northwestern.edu>
Date: Thu, May 26, 2011 at 3:51 PM
Subject: Call to action: Northwestern Varsity Dance Team

Hi friends and family,

Northwestern University Athletic Department has plans to cut the dance
program this coming year. My team would appreciate if you'd send an email
showing for support for the Ladycats to the athletic department. If you
wouldn't mind forwarding this email to other friends of yours who support
the dance team, it would be very much appreciated. A template is below, but
feel free to send your own version.

Please send these emails to: j-phillips at northwestern.edu and
j-mack at northwestern.edu


To Whom It May Concern:



            As a Northwestern Wildcats fan, I would like to voice my support
for the continuation of Northwestern?s Varsity Dance Team, known as the
Ladycats. The Ladycats are a vital part of our athletic tradition and
sporting events, having cheered on the ?Cats for decades and given countless
hours of time and energy to promoting school spirit. The Ladycats need to
continue to be part of the Athletic Department as a recognized sport
separate from cheerleading, as they have been in the past. I believe that
the Ladycats performance has consistently been of exceptional quality and
entertaining for fans, and I value having them dance at athletic events.
Please keep the Ladycats in the Athletic Department, Northwestern University
would not be the same without them.




Thanks so much for your concern and for wanting to help.  Hopefully future
Ladycats for years to come will appreciate it!


Sarah

From rstetson at capps-assoc.com  Thu May 26 16:30:25 2011
From: rstetson at capps-assoc.com (Roy S. Lamberton)
Date: Thu, 26 May 2011 17:30:25 -0400
Subject: [NU Sports] In the Final Four again...how about that...
In-Reply-To: <227534.3056.qm@web161015.mail.bf1.yahoo.com>
References: <1F89BB2CE7A5B94D969618E8CC769CC36B6BAD09@XCHGBRS4.corp.espn.pvt>
 <227534.3056.qm@web161015.mail.bf1.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <001801cc1bec$21f5f220$65e1d660$@com>

What was obvious in the loss to Maryland last year was their team speed vs our team speed.

We could play them even when we got the ball behind the net, but in the open field, those
Terps were deadly.

In the one game I did get to see on the internet (Notre Dame), it appeared that we were
playing a little more uptempo, and with some quicker players.

I guess everything is relative, Lacrosse is fast enough without introducing greased
lightning. And it appears that the back to back losses served as a wakeup.

Have many things on tap this weekend, but will try to catch Friday's game, if nothing else
but to cheer on our Ladies.

And will wear purple tomorrow.

Of course

rsl
 
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
Roy S. Lamberton - Senior Associate & Unix Guru.
Computer Applications & Support Associates
-------------------- Also ----------------------
"Commissioner" Delaware American Legion Baseball
Director Media Relations - Little League 
  Senior League Softball World Series
CTR2 USN (67-70) - CTRCS USNR (Ret) (64-67/70-95)
Northwestern University - Speech 1974 - 
Chi Phi: Pi 1974, KD 1968
Publisher Emeritus: Purple Reign (Fox Sports)
================================================
Opinions expressed above are mine alone and are not
those of any organizations of which I am a member.
------------------------------------------------
We the people of the United States, in order to 
form a more perfect union, establish justice, 
insure domestic tranquility, provide for the 
common defense, promote the general welfare, 
and secure the blessings of liberty to ourselves 
and our posterity, do ordain and establish 
this Constitution for the United States of America.
==========  Go Cats -? Beat 'em All  ===========


-----Original Message-----
From: nwu-sports-bounces at tssi.com [mailto:nwu-sports-bounces at tssi.com] On Behalf Of Tom
Maycock
Sent: Thursday, May 26, 2011 4:42 PM
To: nwu-sports at tssi.com
Subject: Re: [NU Sports] In the Final Four again...how about that...

OK, I've been "lax" in commenting on the "Lax" team this year, but was prompted 
to post by the announcement that the Big Ten Network will be carrying the final 
four Women's Lacrosse games:

http://nusports.cstv.com/sports/w-lacros/spec-rel/052611aab.html

Much to my surprise, I had just found out via a forum thread at laxpower that 
CBS College Sports network wasn't carrying the final four games this year as 
they had in the past. So, as of this morning, the only way to watch was going to 
be the NCAA live internet feed (which Buffalo Wild Wings in Evanston was picking 
up). 

Pretty sad step backward, and I was actually wondering whether there might be an 
opportunity for the BTN to step in, particularly given this week's news that 
Michigan would be stepping up their men's and women's programs to D1 over the 
next couple of years. 

And sure enough, the BTN made it happen. First game will be tape delayed 
following baseball at 9:30 or thereabouts (you can still watch the stream live 
starting at 6:30pm Central), and then the championship game will be aired live. 
Now if NU can just make it to that game!

It's been an interesting year for the Cats. We've had an absolutely miserable 
spring weather-wise here in Chicago, with February-esque conditions prevailing 
through March, April, and May (it's cold, windy, and wet out AGAIN today). The 
weather has been especially nasty for almost every Lax home game--horizontal 
snow, 30mph wind/40 degree mists, and so on. As a result, we missed several home 
games, and I wondered if ugly practice conditions might slow development of the 
team--although I think they do practice indoors sometimes. 

The team started off well, winning some tough early matchups, but then struggled 
with back-to-back losses against fast-rising Florida and Johns Hopkins. The step 
backward wasn't terribly surprising, given the overall youth of this team in 
what is clearly a bit of a rebuilding year. To my outsider eyes, they 
also seemed to be lacking some of enthusiasm, and perhaps some of the vocal 
leadership, of past teams. Lamanto also had a shaky few games in goal, which was 
very unusual. 

Since then, however, the defense has really started to crank it up, "Breezy" 
seemed to get her mojo back between the pipes, the offense has developed a much 
better flow, and Shannon Smith has been on an absolute tear scoring goals and 
dishing out assists (Shannon *not* being named ALC player of the year may have 
been the best thing to happen to the Cats--I think she's scored 5 goals in every 
game since then). 

The Cats exacted revenge over Florda in a tight conference title game, secured a 
hard-fought win over BC in the first round NCAA game, and then played easily 
their best game of the year in a complete dismantling of Albany last Saturday. 
The enthusiasm seems back in a big way. 

They play North Carolina on Friday--a team they beat in OT on the road earlier 
this year, so that's clearly a tough but winnable game. If they get by NC, it's 
hard to see this team upsetting Maryland for the championship, but anything is 
possible. 

Meanwhile, Taylor Thornton has built on the pure speed she displayed last year 
with ever-improving skills at picking up loose balls and causing turnovers. 
There's nothing more entertaining at a home game then hearing the crowd go nuts 
when she takes off on one of her patented end-to-end one woman clears, blowing 
past defenders who look like they are running in mud. 

Should be fun to watch Friday's game. I just have to decide whether to watch the 
stream live or wait for the BTN delay.

Tom

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From Willie.Weinbaum at espn.com  Thu May 26 16:32:19 2011
From: Willie.Weinbaum at espn.com (Weinbaum, Willie)
Date: Thu, 26 May 2011 17:32:19 -0400
Subject: [NU Sports] In the Final Four again...how about that...
In-Reply-To: <001801cc1bec$21f5f220$65e1d660$@com>
References: <1F89BB2CE7A5B94D969618E8CC769CC36B6BAD09@XCHGBRS4.corp.espn.pvt>
 <227534.3056.qm@web161015.mail.bf1.yahoo.com>
 <001801cc1bec$21f5f220$65e1d660$@com>
Message-ID: <1F89BB2CE7A5B94D969618E8CC769CC36B8B5556@XCHGBRS4.corp.espn.pvt>

I'm hoping to attend the game tomorrow - - if any of you are going, please drop me a line.

-----Original Message-----
From: nwu-sports-bounces at tssi.com [mailto:nwu-sports-bounces at tssi.com] On Behalf Of Roy S. Lamberton
Sent: Thursday, May 26, 2011 5:30 PM
To: 'Tom Maycock'; nwu-sports at tssi.com
Subject: Re: [NU Sports] In the Final Four again...how about that...

What was obvious in the loss to Maryland last year was their team speed vs our team speed.

We could play them even when we got the ball behind the net, but in the open field, those Terps were deadly.

In the one game I did get to see on the internet (Notre Dame), it appeared that we were playing a little more uptempo, and with some quicker players.

I guess everything is relative, Lacrosse is fast enough without introducing greased lightning. And it appears that the back to back losses served as a wakeup.

Have many things on tap this weekend, but will try to catch Friday's game, if nothing else but to cheer on our Ladies.

And will wear purple tomorrow.

Of course

rsl

++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
Roy S. Lamberton - Senior Associate & Unix Guru.
Computer Applications & Support Associates
-------------------- Also ---------------------- "Commissioner" Delaware American Legion Baseball Director Media Relations - Little League
  Senior League Softball World Series
CTR2 USN (67-70) - CTRCS USNR (Ret) (64-67/70-95) Northwestern University - Speech 1974 - Chi Phi: Pi 1974, KD 1968 Publisher Emeritus: Purple Reign (Fox Sports) ================================================
Opinions expressed above are mine alone and are not those of any organizations of which I am a member.
------------------------------------------------
We the people of the United States, in order to form a more perfect union, establish justice, insure domestic tranquility, provide for the common defense, promote the general welfare, and secure the blessings of liberty to ourselves and our posterity, do ordain and establish this Constitution for the United States of America.
==========  Go Cats -  Beat 'em All  ===========


-----Original Message-----
From: nwu-sports-bounces at tssi.com [mailto:nwu-sports-bounces at tssi.com] On Behalf Of Tom Maycock
Sent: Thursday, May 26, 2011 4:42 PM
To: nwu-sports at tssi.com
Subject: Re: [NU Sports] In the Final Four again...how about that...

OK, I've been "lax" in commenting on the "Lax" team this year, but was prompted to post by the announcement that the Big Ten Network will be carrying the final four Women's Lacrosse games:

http://nusports.cstv.com/sports/w-lacros/spec-rel/052611aab.html

Much to my surprise, I had just found out via a forum thread at laxpower that CBS College Sports network wasn't carrying the final four games this year as they had in the past. So, as of this morning, the only way to watch was going to be the NCAA live internet feed (which Buffalo Wild Wings in Evanston was picking up).

Pretty sad step backward, and I was actually wondering whether there might be an opportunity for the BTN to step in, particularly given this week's news that Michigan would be stepping up their men's and women's programs to D1 over the next couple of years.

And sure enough, the BTN made it happen. First game will be tape delayed following baseball at 9:30 or thereabouts (you can still watch the stream live starting at 6:30pm Central), and then the championship game will be aired live.
Now if NU can just make it to that game!

It's been an interesting year for the Cats. We've had an absolutely miserable spring weather-wise here in Chicago, with February-esque conditions prevailing through March, April, and May (it's cold, windy, and wet out AGAIN today). The weather has been especially nasty for almost every Lax home game--horizontal snow, 30mph wind/40 degree mists, and so on. As a result, we missed several home games, and I wondered if ugly practice conditions might slow development of the team--although I think they do practice indoors sometimes.

The team started off well, winning some tough early matchups, but then struggled with back-to-back losses against fast-rising Florida and Johns Hopkins. The step backward wasn't terribly surprising, given the overall youth of this team in what is clearly a bit of a rebuilding year. To my outsider eyes, they also seemed to be lacking some of enthusiasm, and perhaps some of the vocal leadership, of past teams. Lamanto also had a shaky few games in goal, which was very unusual.

Since then, however, the defense has really started to crank it up, "Breezy"
seemed to get her mojo back between the pipes, the offense has developed a much better flow, and Shannon Smith has been on an absolute tear scoring goals and dishing out assists (Shannon *not* being named ALC player of the year may have been the best thing to happen to the Cats--I think she's scored 5 goals in every game since then).

The Cats exacted revenge over Florda in a tight conference title game, secured a hard-fought win over BC in the first round NCAA game, and then played easily their best game of the year in a complete dismantling of Albany last Saturday.
The enthusiasm seems back in a big way.

They play North Carolina on Friday--a team they beat in OT on the road earlier this year, so that's clearly a tough but winnable game. If they get by NC, it's hard to see this team upsetting Maryland for the championship, but anything is possible.

Meanwhile, Taylor Thornton has built on the pure speed she displayed last year with ever-improving skills at picking up loose balls and causing turnovers.
There's nothing more entertaining at a home game then hearing the crowd go nuts when she takes off on one of her patented end-to-end one woman clears, blowing past defenders who look like they are running in mud.

Should be fun to watch Friday's game. I just have to decide whether to watch the stream live or wait for the BTN delay.

Tom

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From MHRJGScott at aol.com  Thu May 26 16:51:17 2011
From: MHRJGScott at aol.com (MHRJGScott at aol.com)
Date: Thu, 26 May 2011 17:51:17 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: [NU Sports] golf
Message-ID: <a2cd.3352551e.3b102555@aol.com>

Men made the NCAA tourney with a nice comeback in Colorado, should be on TV 
 late next week/weekend. A  national championship would be  nice.

From jintsjason at me.com  Fri May 27 18:30:37 2011
From: jintsjason at me.com (Jason Singer)
Date: Fri, 27 May 2011 16:30:37 -0700
Subject: [NU Sports] Women's Lacrosse Live Stream link
In-Reply-To: <227534.3056.qm@web161015.mail.bf1.yahoo.com>
References: <1F89BB2CE7A5B94D969618E8CC769CC36B6BAD09@XCHGBRS4.corp.espn.pvt>
 <227534.3056.qm@web161015.mail.bf1.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <BEF22604-B1F8-4B40-97E8-6AE95D5044D6@me.com>

For those trying to find the stream:

http://www.ncaa.com/sites/default/files/external/liveplayer/champplayer/player.html?gameId=2011_WLA-1_302

Jason Singer
jintsjason at me.com
jason at jasonsinger.com




On May 26, 2011, at 1:41 PM, Tom Maycock wrote:

> OK, I've been "lax" in commenting on the "Lax" team this year, but was prompted 
> to post by the announcement that the Big Ten Network will be carrying the final 
> four Women's Lacrosse games:
> 
> http://nusports.cstv.com/sports/w-lacros/spec-rel/052611aab.html
> 
> Much to my surprise, I had just found out via a forum thread at laxpower that 
> CBS College Sports network wasn't carrying the final four games this year as 
> they had in the past. So, as of this morning, the only way to watch was going to 
> be the NCAA live internet feed (which Buffalo Wild Wings in Evanston was picking 
> up). 
> 
> Pretty sad step backward, and I was actually wondering whether there might be an 
> opportunity for the BTN to step in, particularly given this week's news that 
> Michigan would be stepping up their men's and women's programs to D1 over the 
> next couple of years. 
> 
> And sure enough, the BTN made it happen. First game will be tape delayed 
> following baseball at 9:30 or thereabouts (you can still watch the stream live 
> starting at 6:30pm Central), and then the championship game will be aired live. 
> Now if NU can just make it to that game!
> 
> It's been an interesting year for the Cats. We've had an absolutely miserable 
> spring weather-wise here in Chicago, with February-esque conditions prevailing 
> through March, April, and May (it's cold, windy, and wet out AGAIN today). The 
> weather has been especially nasty for almost every Lax home game--horizontal 
> snow, 30mph wind/40 degree mists, and so on. As a result, we missed several home 
> games, and I wondered if ugly practice conditions might slow development of the 
> team--although I think they do practice indoors sometimes. 
> 
> The team started off well, winning some tough early matchups, but then struggled 
> with back-to-back losses against fast-rising Florida and Johns Hopkins. The step 
> backward wasn't terribly surprising, given the overall youth of this team in 
> what is clearly a bit of a rebuilding year. To my outsider eyes, they 
> also seemed to be lacking some of enthusiasm, and perhaps some of the vocal 
> leadership, of past teams. Lamanto also had a shaky few games in goal, which was 
> very unusual. 
> 
> Since then, however, the defense has really started to crank it up, "Breezy" 
> seemed to get her mojo back between the pipes, the offense has developed a much 
> better flow, and Shannon Smith has been on an absolute tear scoring goals and 
> dishing out assists (Shannon *not* being named ALC player of the year may have 
> been the best thing to happen to the Cats--I think she's scored 5 goals in every 
> game since then). 
> 
> The Cats exacted revenge over Florda in a tight conference title game, secured a 
> hard-fought win over BC in the first round NCAA game, and then played easily 
> their best game of the year in a complete dismantling of Albany last Saturday. 
> The enthusiasm seems back in a big way. 
> 
> They play North Carolina on Friday--a team they beat in OT on the road earlier 
> this year, so that's clearly a tough but winnable game. If they get by NC, it's 
> hard to see this team upsetting Maryland for the championship, but anything is 
> possible. 
> 
> Meanwhile, Taylor Thornton has built on the pure speed she displayed last year 
> with ever-improving skills at picking up loose balls and causing turnovers. 
> There's nothing more entertaining at a home game then hearing the crowd go nuts 
> when she takes off on one of her patented end-to-end one woman clears, blowing 
> past defenders who look like they are running in mud. 
> 
> Should be fun to watch Friday's game. I just have to decide whether to watch the 
> stream live or wait for the BTN delay.
> 
> Tom
> 
> _______________________________________________
> nwu-sports site list
> nwu-sports at tssi.com
> http://romaine.tssi.com/mailman/listinfo/nwu-sports


From jintsjason at me.com  Fri May 27 18:36:53 2011
From: jintsjason at me.com (Jason Singer)
Date: Fri, 27 May 2011 16:36:53 -0700
Subject: [NU Sports] Women's Lacrosse Live Stream link
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Anybody else getting a jittery image? Currently it's unwatchable.

Jason Singer
jintsjason at me.com
jason at jasonsinger.com




On May 27, 2011, at 4:30 PM, Jason Singer wrote:

> For those trying to find the stream:
> 
> http://www.ncaa.com/sites/default/files/external/liveplayer/champplayer/player.html?gameId=2011_WLA-1_302
> 
> Jason Singer
> jintsjason at me.com
> jason at jasonsinger.com
> 
> 
> 
> 
> On May 26, 2011, at 1:41 PM, Tom Maycock wrote:
> 
>> OK, I've been "lax" in commenting on the "Lax" team this year, but was prompted 
>> to post by the announcement that the Big Ten Network will be carrying the final 
>> four Women's Lacrosse games:
>> 
>> http://nusports.cstv.com/sports/w-lacros/spec-rel/052611aab.html
>> 
>> Much to my surprise, I had just found out via a forum thread at laxpower that 
>> CBS College Sports network wasn't carrying the final four games this year as 
>> they had in the past. So, as of this morning, the only way to watch was going to 
>> be the NCAA live internet feed (which Buffalo Wild Wings in Evanston was picking 
>> up). 
>> 
>> Pretty sad step backward, and I was actually wondering whether there might be an 
>> opportunity for the BTN to step in, particularly given this week's news that 
>> Michigan would be stepping up their men's and women's programs to D1 over the 
>> next couple of years. 
>> 
>> And sure enough, the BTN made it happen. First game will be tape delayed 
>> following baseball at 9:30 or thereabouts (you can still watch the stream live 
>> starting at 6:30pm Central), and then the championship game will be aired live. 
>> Now if NU can just make it to that game!
>> 
>> It's been an interesting year for the Cats. We've had an absolutely miserable 
>> spring weather-wise here in Chicago, with February-esque conditions prevailing 
>> through March, April, and May (it's cold, windy, and wet out AGAIN today). The 
>> weather has been especially nasty for almost every Lax home game--horizontal 
>> snow, 30mph wind/40 degree mists, and so on. As a result, we missed several home 
>> games, and I wondered if ugly practice conditions might slow development of the 
>> team--although I think they do practice indoors sometimes. 
>> 
>> The team started off well, winning some tough early matchups, but then struggled 
>> with back-to-back losses against fast-rising Florida and Johns Hopkins. The step 
>> backward wasn't terribly surprising, given the overall youth of this team in 
>> what is clearly a bit of a rebuilding year. To my outsider eyes, they 
>> also seemed to be lacking some of enthusiasm, and perhaps some of the vocal 
>> leadership, of past teams. Lamanto also had a shaky few games in goal, which was 
>> very unusual. 
>> 
>> Since then, however, the defense has really started to crank it up, "Breezy" 
>> seemed to get her mojo back between the pipes, the offense has developed a much 
>> better flow, and Shannon Smith has been on an absolute tear scoring goals and 
>> dishing out assists (Shannon *not* being named ALC player of the year may have 
>> been the best thing to happen to the Cats--I think she's scored 5 goals in every 
>> game since then). 
>> 
>> The Cats exacted revenge over Florda in a tight conference title game, secured a 
>> hard-fought win over BC in the first round NCAA game, and then played easily 
>> their best game of the year in a complete dismantling of Albany last Saturday. 
>> The enthusiasm seems back in a big way. 
>> 
>> They play North Carolina on Friday--a team they beat in OT on the road earlier 
>> this year, so that's clearly a tough but winnable game. If they get by NC, it's 
>> hard to see this team upsetting Maryland for the championship, but anything is 
>> possible. 
>> 
>> Meanwhile, Taylor Thornton has built on the pure speed she displayed last year 
>> with ever-improving skills at picking up loose balls and causing turnovers. 
>> There's nothing more entertaining at a home game then hearing the crowd go nuts 
>> when she takes off on one of her patented end-to-end one woman clears, blowing 
>> past defenders who look like they are running in mud. 
>> 
>> Should be fun to watch Friday's game. I just have to decide whether to watch the 
>> stream live or wait for the BTN delay.
>> 
>> Tom
>> 
>> _______________________________________________
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>> nwu-sports at tssi.com
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From tkmaycock at yahoo.com  Fri May 27 18:41:24 2011
From: tkmaycock at yahoo.com (Tom Maycock)
Date: Fri, 27 May 2011 23:41:24 +0000
Subject: [NU Sports] Women's Lacrosse Live Stream link
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It is fine here--with about 6Mb cable internet. Rez isn't great, but decent.

Tom
Sent via BlackBerry from T-Mobile

-----Original Message-----
From: Jason Singer <jintsjason at me.com>
Sender: nwu-sports-bounces at tssi.com
Date: Fri, 27 May 2011 16:36:53 
To: Northwestern Wildcats<nwu-sports at tssi.com>
Subject: Re: [NU Sports] Women's Lacrosse Live Stream link

Anybody else getting a jittery image? Currently it's unwatchable.

Jason Singer
jintsjason at me.com
jason at jasonsinger.com




On May 27, 2011, at 4:30 PM, Jason Singer wrote:

> For those trying to find the stream:
> 
> http://www.ncaa.com/sites/default/files/external/liveplayer/champplayer/player.html?gameId=2011_WLA-1_302
> 
> Jason Singer
> jintsjason at me.com
> jason at jasonsinger.com
> 
> 
> 
> 
> On May 26, 2011, at 1:41 PM, Tom Maycock wrote:
> 
>> OK, I've been "lax" in commenting on the "Lax" team this year, but was prompted 
>> to post by the announcement that the Big Ten Network will be carrying the final 
>> four Women's Lacrosse games:
>> 
>> http://nusports.cstv.com/sports/w-lacros/spec-rel/052611aab.html
>> 
>> Much to my surprise, I had just found out via a forum thread at laxpower that 
>> CBS College Sports network wasn't carrying the final four games this year as 
>> they had in the past. So, as of this morning, the only way to watch was going to 
>> be the NCAA live internet feed (which Buffalo Wild Wings in Evanston was picking 
>> up). 
>> 
>> Pretty sad step backward, and I was actually wondering whether there might be an 
>> opportunity for the BTN to step in, particularly given this week's news that 
>> Michigan would be stepping up their men's and women's programs to D1 over the 
>> next couple of years. 
>> 
>> And sure enough, the BTN made it happen. First game will be tape delayed 
>> following baseball at 9:30 or thereabouts (you can still watch the stream live 
>> starting at 6:30pm Central), and then the championship game will be aired live. 
>> Now if NU can just make it to that game!
>> 
>> It's been an interesting year for the Cats. We've had an absolutely miserable 
>> spring weather-wise here in Chicago, with February-esque conditions prevailing 
>> through March, April, and May (it's cold, windy, and wet out AGAIN today). The 
>> weather has been especially nasty for almost every Lax home game--horizontal 
>> snow, 30mph wind/40 degree mists, and so on. As a result, we missed several home 
>> games, and I wondered if ugly practice conditions might slow development of the 
>> team--although I think they do practice indoors sometimes. 
>> 
>> The team started off well, winning some tough early matchups, but then struggled 
>> with back-to-back losses against fast-rising Florida and Johns Hopkins. The step 
>> backward wasn't terribly surprising, given the overall youth of this team in 
>> what is clearly a bit of a rebuilding year. To my outsider eyes, they 
>> also seemed to be lacking some of enthusiasm, and perhaps some of the vocal 
>> leadership, of past teams. Lamanto also had a shaky few games in goal, which was 
>> very unusual. 
>> 
>> Since then, however, the defense has really started to crank it up, "Breezy" 
>> seemed to get her mojo back between the pipes, the offense has developed a much 
>> better flow, and Shannon Smith has been on an absolute tear scoring goals and 
>> dishing out assists (Shannon *not* being named ALC player of the year may have 
>> been the best thing to happen to the Cats--I think she's scored 5 goals in every 
>> game since then). 
>> 
>> The Cats exacted revenge over Florda in a tight conference title game, secured a 
>> hard-fought win over BC in the first round NCAA game, and then played easily 
>> their best game of the year in a complete dismantling of Albany last Saturday. 
>> The enthusiasm seems back in a big way. 
>> 
>> They play North Carolina on Friday--a team they beat in OT on the road earlier 
>> this year, so that's clearly a tough but winnable game. If they get by NC, it's 
>> hard to see this team upsetting Maryland for the championship, but anything is 
>> possible. 
>> 
>> Meanwhile, Taylor Thornton has built on the pure speed she displayed last year 
>> with ever-improving skills at picking up loose balls and causing turnovers. 
>> There's nothing more entertaining at a home game then hearing the crowd go nuts 
>> when she takes off on one of her patented end-to-end one woman clears, blowing 
>> past defenders who look like they are running in mud. 
>> 
>> Should be fun to watch Friday's game. I just have to decide whether to watch the 
>> stream live or wait for the BTN delay.
>> 
>> Tom
>> 
>> _______________________________________________
>> nwu-sports site list
>> nwu-sports at tssi.com
>> http://romaine.tssi.com/mailman/listinfo/nwu-sports
> 
> _______________________________________________
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From alan.abrahamson at gmail.com  Fri May 27 19:02:35 2011
From: alan.abrahamson at gmail.com (Alan Abrahamson)
Date: Fri, 27 May 2011 17:02:35 -0700
Subject: [NU Sports] Women's Lacrosse Live Stream link
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Whoever is the color commentator is so rooting for Carolina it's not funny.
I mean, really.

On Fri, May 27, 2011 at 4:41 PM, Tom Maycock <tkmaycock at yahoo.com> wrote:

> It is fine here--with about 6Mb cable internet. Rez isn't great, but
> decent.
>
> Tom
> Sent via BlackBerry from T-Mobile
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Jason Singer <jintsjason at me.com>
> Sender: nwu-sports-bounces at tssi.com
> Date: Fri, 27 May 2011 16:36:53
> To: Northwestern Wildcats<nwu-sports at tssi.com>
> Subject: Re: [NU Sports] Women's Lacrosse Live Stream link
>
> Anybody else getting a jittery image? Currently it's unwatchable.
>
> Jason Singer
> jintsjason at me.com
> jason at jasonsinger.com
>
>
>
>
> On May 27, 2011, at 4:30 PM, Jason Singer wrote:
>
> > For those trying to find the stream:
> >
> >
> http://www.ncaa.com/sites/default/files/external/liveplayer/champplayer/player.html?gameId=2011_WLA-1_302
> >
> > Jason Singer
> > jintsjason at me.com
> > jason at jasonsinger.com
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > On May 26, 2011, at 1:41 PM, Tom Maycock wrote:
> >
> >> OK, I've been "lax" in commenting on the "Lax" team this year, but was
> prompted
> >> to post by the announcement that the Big Ten Network will be carrying
> the final
> >> four Women's Lacrosse games:
> >>
> >> http://nusports.cstv.com/sports/w-lacros/spec-rel/052611aab.html
> >>
> >> Much to my surprise, I had just found out via a forum thread at laxpower
> that
> >> CBS College Sports network wasn't carrying the final four games this
> year as
> >> they had in the past. So, as of this morning, the only way to watch was
> going to
> >> be the NCAA live internet feed (which Buffalo Wild Wings in Evanston was
> picking
> >> up).
> >>
> >> Pretty sad step backward, and I was actually wondering whether there
> might be an
> >> opportunity for the BTN to step in, particularly given this week's news
> that
> >> Michigan would be stepping up their men's and women's programs to D1
> over the
> >> next couple of years.
> >>
> >> And sure enough, the BTN made it happen. First game will be tape delayed
> >> following baseball at 9:30 or thereabouts (you can still watch the
> stream live
> >> starting at 6:30pm Central), and then the championship game will be
> aired live.
> >> Now if NU can just make it to that game!
> >>
> >> It's been an interesting year for the Cats. We've had an absolutely
> miserable
> >> spring weather-wise here in Chicago, with February-esque conditions
> prevailing
> >> through March, April, and May (it's cold, windy, and wet out AGAIN
> today). The
> >> weather has been especially nasty for almost every Lax home
> game--horizontal
> >> snow, 30mph wind/40 degree mists, and so on. As a result, we missed
> several home
> >> games, and I wondered if ugly practice conditions might slow development
> of the
> >> team--although I think they do practice indoors sometimes.
> >>
> >> The team started off well, winning some tough early matchups, but then
> struggled
> >> with back-to-back losses against fast-rising Florida and Johns Hopkins.
> The step
> >> backward wasn't terribly surprising, given the overall youth of this
> team in
> >> what is clearly a bit of a rebuilding year. To my outsider eyes, they
> >> also seemed to be lacking some of enthusiasm, and perhaps some of the
> vocal
> >> leadership, of past teams. Lamanto also had a shaky few games in goal,
> which was
> >> very unusual.
> >>
> >> Since then, however, the defense has really started to crank it up,
> "Breezy"
> >> seemed to get her mojo back between the pipes, the offense has developed
> a much
> >> better flow, and Shannon Smith has been on an absolute tear scoring
> goals and
> >> dishing out assists (Shannon *not* being named ALC player of the year
> may have
> >> been the best thing to happen to the Cats--I think she's scored 5 goals
> in every
> >> game since then).
> >>
> >> The Cats exacted revenge over Florda in a tight conference title game,
> secured a
> >> hard-fought win over BC in the first round NCAA game, and then played
> easily
> >> their best game of the year in a complete dismantling of Albany last
> Saturday.
> >> The enthusiasm seems back in a big way.
> >>
> >> They play North Carolina on Friday--a team they beat in OT on the road
> earlier
> >> this year, so that's clearly a tough but winnable game. If they get by
> NC, it's
> >> hard to see this team upsetting Maryland for the championship, but
> anything is
> >> possible.
> >>
> >> Meanwhile, Taylor Thornton has built on the pure speed she displayed
> last year
> >> with ever-improving skills at picking up loose balls and causing
> turnovers.
> >> There's nothing more entertaining at a home game then hearing the crowd
> go nuts
> >> when she takes off on one of her patented end-to-end one woman clears,
> blowing
> >> past defenders who look like they are running in mud.
> >>
> >> Should be fun to watch Friday's game. I just have to decide whether to
> watch the
> >> stream live or wait for the BTN delay.
> >>
> >> Tom
> >>
> >> _______________________________________________
> >> nwu-sports site list
> >> nwu-sports at tssi.com
> >> http://romaine.tssi.com/mailman/listinfo/nwu-sports
> >
> > _______________________________________________
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> > nwu-sports at tssi.com
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>
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From sportsbiz at gmail.com  Fri May 27 19:08:13 2011
From: sportsbiz at gmail.com (Sportsbiz)
Date: Fri, 27 May 2011 20:08:13 -0400
Subject: [NU Sports] Women's Lacrosse Live Stream link
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If you have DirecTV or live in DC area, it's live on Comcast Sportsnet.
Mark
On May 27, 2011 8:03 PM, "Alan Abrahamson" <alan.abrahamson at gmail.com>
wrote:
> Whoever is the color commentator is so rooting for Carolina it's not
funny.
> I mean, really.
>
> On Fri, May 27, 2011 at 4:41 PM, Tom Maycock <tkmaycock at yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>> It is fine here--with about 6Mb cable internet. Rez isn't great, but
>> decent.
>>
>> Tom
>> Sent via BlackBerry from T-Mobile
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Jason Singer <jintsjason at me.com>
>> Sender: nwu-sports-bounces at tssi.com
>> Date: Fri, 27 May 2011 16:36:53
>> To: Northwestern Wildcats<nwu-sports at tssi.com>
>> Subject: Re: [NU Sports] Women's Lacrosse Live Stream link
>>
>> Anybody else getting a jittery image? Currently it's unwatchable.
>>
>> Jason Singer
>> jintsjason at me.com
>> jason at jasonsinger.com
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On May 27, 2011, at 4:30 PM, Jason Singer wrote:
>>
>> > For those trying to find the stream:
>> >
>> >
>>
http://www.ncaa.com/sites/default/files/external/liveplayer/champplayer/player.html?gameId=2011_WLA-1_302
>> >
>> > Jason Singer
>> > jintsjason at me.com
>> > jason at jasonsinger.com
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > On May 26, 2011, at 1:41 PM, Tom Maycock wrote:
>> >
>> >> OK, I've been "lax" in commenting on the "Lax" team this year, but was
>> prompted
>> >> to post by the announcement that the Big Ten Network will be carrying
>> the final
>> >> four Women's Lacrosse games:
>> >>
>> >> http://nusports.cstv.com/sports/w-lacros/spec-rel/052611aab.html
>> >>
>> >> Much to my surprise, I had just found out via a forum thread at
laxpower
>> that
>> >> CBS College Sports network wasn't carrying the final four games this
>> year as
>> >> they had in the past. So, as of this morning, the only way to watch
was
>> going to
>> >> be the NCAA live internet feed (which Buffalo Wild Wings in Evanston
was
>> picking
>> >> up).
>> >>
>> >> Pretty sad step backward, and I was actually wondering whether there
>> might be an
>> >> opportunity for the BTN to step in, particularly given this week's
news
>> that
>> >> Michigan would be stepping up their men's and women's programs to D1
>> over the
>> >> next couple of years.
>> >>
>> >> And sure enough, the BTN made it happen. First game will be tape
delayed
>> >> following baseball at 9:30 or thereabouts (you can still watch the
>> stream live
>> >> starting at 6:30pm Central), and then the championship game will be
>> aired live.
>> >> Now if NU can just make it to that game!
>> >>
>> >> It's been an interesting year for the Cats. We've had an absolutely
>> miserable
>> >> spring weather-wise here in Chicago, with February-esque conditions
>> prevailing
>> >> through March, April, and May (it's cold, windy, and wet out AGAIN
>> today). The
>> >> weather has been especially nasty for almost every Lax home
>> game--horizontal
>> >> snow, 30mph wind/40 degree mists, and so on. As a result, we missed
>> several home
>> >> games, and I wondered if ugly practice conditions might slow
development
>> of the
>> >> team--although I think they do practice indoors sometimes.
>> >>
>> >> The team started off well, winning some tough early matchups, but then
>> struggled
>> >> with back-to-back losses against fast-rising Florida and Johns
Hopkins.
>> The step
>> >> backward wasn't terribly surprising, given the overall youth of this
>> team in
>> >> what is clearly a bit of a rebuilding year. To my outsider eyes, they
>> >> also seemed to be lacking some of enthusiasm, and perhaps some of the
>> vocal
>> >> leadership, of past teams. Lamanto also had a shaky few games in goal,
>> which was
>> >> very unusual.
>> >>
>> >> Since then, however, the defense has really started to crank it up,
>> "Breezy"
>> >> seemed to get her mojo back between the pipes, the offense has
developed
>> a much
>> >> better flow, and Shannon Smith has been on an absolute tear scoring
>> goals and
>> >> dishing out assists (Shannon *not* being named ALC player of the year
>> may have
>> >> been the best thing to happen to the Cats--I think she's scored 5
goals
>> in every
>> >> game since then).
>> >>
>> >> The Cats exacted revenge over Florda in a tight conference title game,
>> secured a
>> >> hard-fought win over BC in the first round NCAA game, and then played
>> easily
>> >> their best game of the year in a complete dismantling of Albany last
>> Saturday.
>> >> The enthusiasm seems back in a big way.
>> >>
>> >> They play North Carolina on Friday--a team they beat in OT on the road
>> earlier
>> >> this year, so that's clearly a tough but winnable game. If they get by
>> NC, it's
>> >> hard to see this team upsetting Maryland for the championship, but
>> anything is
>> >> possible.
>> >>
>> >> Meanwhile, Taylor Thornton has built on the pure speed she displayed
>> last year
>> >> with ever-improving skills at picking up loose balls and causing
>> turnovers.
>> >> There's nothing more entertaining at a home game then hearing the
crowd
>> go nuts
>> >> when she takes off on one of her patented end-to-end one woman clears,
>> blowing
>> >> past defenders who look like they are running in mud.
>> >>
>> >> Should be fun to watch Friday's game. I just have to decide whether to
>> watch the
>> >> stream live or wait for the BTN delay.
>> >>
>> >> Tom
>> >>
>> >> _______________________________________________
>> >> nwu-sports site list
>> >> nwu-sports at tssi.com
>> >> http://romaine.tssi.com/mailman/listinfo/nwu-sports
>> >
>> > _______________________________________________
>> > nwu-sports site list
>> > nwu-sports at tssi.com
>> > http://romaine.tssi.com/mailman/listinfo/nwu-sports
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> nwu-sports site list
>> nwu-sports at tssi.com
>> http://romaine.tssi.com/mailman/listinfo/nwu-sports
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>>
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From tkmaycock at yahoo.com  Fri May 27 19:10:48 2011
From: tkmaycock at yahoo.com (Tom Maycock)
Date: Sat, 28 May 2011 00:10:48 +0000
Subject: [NU Sports] Women's Lacrosse Live Stream link
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Feed IS pretty jerky after all, but don't want to wait for BTN replay.

Tom
Sent via BlackBerry from T-Mobile

-----Original Message-----
From: Sportsbiz <sportsbiz at gmail.com>
Date: Fri, 27 May 2011 20:08:13 
To: Alan Abrahamson<alan.abrahamson at gmail.com>
Cc: <tkmaycock at yahoo.com>; Northwestern Wildcats<nwu-sports at tssi.com>
Subject: Re: [NU Sports] Women's Lacrosse Live Stream link

If you have DirecTV or live in DC area, it's live on Comcast Sportsnet.
Mark
On May 27, 2011 8:03 PM, "Alan Abrahamson" <alan.abrahamson at gmail.com>
wrote:
> Whoever is the color commentator is so rooting for Carolina it's not
funny.
> I mean, really.
>
> On Fri, May 27, 2011 at 4:41 PM, Tom Maycock <tkmaycock at yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>> It is fine here--with about 6Mb cable internet. Rez isn't great, but
>> decent.
>>
>> Tom
>> Sent via BlackBerry from T-Mobile
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Jason Singer <jintsjason at me.com>
>> Sender: nwu-sports-bounces at tssi.com
>> Date: Fri, 27 May 2011 16:36:53
>> To: Northwestern Wildcats<nwu-sports at tssi.com>
>> Subject: Re: [NU Sports] Women's Lacrosse Live Stream link
>>
>> Anybody else getting a jittery image? Currently it's unwatchable.
>>
>> Jason Singer
>> jintsjason at me.com
>> jason at jasonsinger.com
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On May 27, 2011, at 4:30 PM, Jason Singer wrote:
>>
>> > For those trying to find the stream:
>> >
>> >
>>
http://www.ncaa.com/sites/default/files/external/liveplayer/champplayer/player.html?gameId=2011_WLA-1_302
>> >
>> > Jason Singer
>> > jintsjason at me.com
>> > jason at jasonsinger.com
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > On May 26, 2011, at 1:41 PM, Tom Maycock wrote:
>> >
>> >> OK, I've been "lax" in commenting on the "Lax" team this year, but was
>> prompted
>> >> to post by the announcement that the Big Ten Network will be carrying
>> the final
>> >> four Women's Lacrosse games:
>> >>
>> >> http://nusports.cstv.com/sports/w-lacros/spec-rel/052611aab.html
>> >>
>> >> Much to my surprise, I had just found out via a forum thread at
laxpower
>> that
>> >> CBS College Sports network wasn't carrying the final four games this
>> year as
>> >> they had in the past. So, as of this morning, the only way to watch
was
>> going to
>> >> be the NCAA live internet feed (which Buffalo Wild Wings in Evanston
was
>> picking
>> >> up).
>> >>
>> >> Pretty sad step backward, and I was actually wondering whether there
>> might be an
>> >> opportunity for the BTN to step in, particularly given this week's
news
>> that
>> >> Michigan would be stepping up their men's and women's programs to D1
>> over the
>> >> next couple of years.
>> >>
>> >> And sure enough, the BTN made it happen. First game will be tape
delayed
>> >> following baseball at 9:30 or thereabouts (you can still watch the
>> stream live
>> >> starting at 6:30pm Central), and then the championship game will be
>> aired live.
>> >> Now if NU can just make it to that game!
>> >>
>> >> It's been an interesting year for the Cats. We've had an absolutely
>> miserable
>> >> spring weather-wise here in Chicago, with February-esque conditions
>> prevailing
>> >> through March, April, and May (it's cold, windy, and wet out AGAIN
>> today). The
>> >> weather has been especially nasty for almost every Lax home
>> game--horizontal
>> >> snow, 30mph wind/40 degree mists, and so on. As a result, we missed
>> several home
>> >> games, and I wondered if ugly practice conditions might slow
development
>> of the
>> >> team--although I think they do practice indoors sometimes.
>> >>
>> >> The team started off well, winning some tough early matchups, but then
>> struggled
>> >> with back-to-back losses against fast-rising Florida and Johns
Hopkins.
>> The step
>> >> backward wasn't terribly surprising, given the overall youth of this
>> team in
>> >> what is clearly a bit of a rebuilding year. To my outsider eyes, they
>> >> also seemed to be lacking some of enthusiasm, and perhaps some of the
>> vocal
>> >> leadership, of past teams. Lamanto also had a shaky few games in goal,
>> which was
>> >> very unusual.
>> >>
>> >> Since then, however, the defense has really started to crank it up,
>> "Breezy"
>> >> seemed to get her mojo back between the pipes, the offense has
developed
>> a much
>> >> better flow, and Shannon Smith has been on an absolute tear scoring
>> goals and
>> >> dishing out assists (Shannon *not* being named ALC player of the year
>> may have
>> >> been the best thing to happen to the Cats--I think she's scored 5
goals
>> in every
>> >> game since then).
>> >>
>> >> The Cats exacted revenge over Florda in a tight conference title game,
>> secured a
>> >> hard-fought win over BC in the first round NCAA game, and then played
>> easily
>> >> their best game of the year in a complete dismantling of Albany last
>> Saturday.
>> >> The enthusiasm seems back in a big way.
>> >>
>> >> They play North Carolina on Friday--a team they beat in OT on the road
>> earlier
>> >> this year, so that's clearly a tough but winnable game. If they get by
>> NC, it's
>> >> hard to see this team upsetting Maryland for the championship, but
>> anything is
>> >> possible.
>> >>
>> >> Meanwhile, Taylor Thornton has built on the pure speed she displayed
>> last year
>> >> with ever-improving skills at picking up loose balls and causing
>> turnovers.
>> >> There's nothing more entertaining at a home game then hearing the
crowd
>> go nuts
>> >> when she takes off on one of her patented end-to-end one woman clears,
>> blowing
>> >> past defenders who look like they are running in mud.
>> >>
>> >> Should be fun to watch Friday's game. I just have to decide whether to
>> watch the
>> >> stream live or wait for the BTN delay.
>> >>
>> >> Tom
>> >>
>> >> _______________________________________________
>> >> nwu-sports site list
>> >> nwu-sports at tssi.com
>> >> http://romaine.tssi.com/mailman/listinfo/nwu-sports
>> >
>> > _______________________________________________
>> > nwu-sports site list
>> > nwu-sports at tssi.com
>> > http://romaine.tssi.com/mailman/listinfo/nwu-sports
>>
>> _______________________________________________
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>> _______________________________________________
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>>
> _______________________________________________
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From jintsjason at me.com  Fri May 27 19:51:03 2011
From: jintsjason at me.com (Jason Singer)
Date: Fri, 27 May 2011 17:51:03 -0700
Subject: [NU Sports] Women's Lacrosse Live Stream link
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Channel 642 on Directv!

Red Sox on the iPad via MLB.TV
Bruins on TV
Cats on laptop via Slingbox from bedroom DVR. 

Nerve wracking.


Jason Singer
jintsjason at me.com
jason at jasonsinger.com




On May 27, 2011, at 5:10 PM, Tom Maycock wrote:

> Feed IS pretty jerky after all, but don't want to wait for BTN replay.
> 
> Tom
> Sent via BlackBerry from T-Mobile
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Sportsbiz <sportsbiz at gmail.com>
> Date: Fri, 27 May 2011 20:08:13 
> To: Alan Abrahamson<alan.abrahamson at gmail.com>
> Cc: <tkmaycock at yahoo.com>; Northwestern Wildcats<nwu-sports at tssi.com>
> Subject: Re: [NU Sports] Women's Lacrosse Live Stream link
> 
> If you have DirecTV or live in DC area, it's live on Comcast Sportsnet.
> Mark
> On May 27, 2011 8:03 PM, "Alan Abrahamson" <alan.abrahamson at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>> Whoever is the color commentator is so rooting for Carolina it's not
> funny.
>> I mean, really.
>> 
>> On Fri, May 27, 2011 at 4:41 PM, Tom Maycock <tkmaycock at yahoo.com> wrote:
>> 
>>> It is fine here--with about 6Mb cable internet. Rez isn't great, but
>>> decent.
>>> 
>>> Tom
>>> Sent via BlackBerry from T-Mobile
>>> 
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: Jason Singer <jintsjason at me.com>
>>> Sender: nwu-sports-bounces at tssi.com
>>> Date: Fri, 27 May 2011 16:36:53
>>> To: Northwestern Wildcats<nwu-sports at tssi.com>
>>> Subject: Re: [NU Sports] Women's Lacrosse Live Stream link
>>> 
>>> Anybody else getting a jittery image? Currently it's unwatchable.
>>> 
>>> Jason Singer
>>> jintsjason at me.com
>>> jason at jasonsinger.com
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On May 27, 2011, at 4:30 PM, Jason Singer wrote:
>>> 
>>>> For those trying to find the stream:
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>> 
> http://www.ncaa.com/sites/default/files/external/liveplayer/champplayer/player.html?gameId=2011_WLA-1_302
>>>> 
>>>> Jason Singer
>>>> jintsjason at me.com
>>>> jason at jasonsinger.com
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> On May 26, 2011, at 1:41 PM, Tom Maycock wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> OK, I've been "lax" in commenting on the "Lax" team this year, but was
>>> prompted
>>>>> to post by the announcement that the Big Ten Network will be carrying
>>> the final
>>>>> four Women's Lacrosse games:
>>>>> 
>>>>> http://nusports.cstv.com/sports/w-lacros/spec-rel/052611aab.html
>>>>> 
>>>>> Much to my surprise, I had just found out via a forum thread at
> laxpower
>>> that
>>>>> CBS College Sports network wasn't carrying the final four games this
>>> year as
>>>>> they had in the past. So, as of this morning, the only way to watch
> was
>>> going to
>>>>> be the NCAA live internet feed (which Buffalo Wild Wings in Evanston
> was
>>> picking
>>>>> up).
>>>>> 
>>>>> Pretty sad step backward, and I was actually wondering whether there
>>> might be an
>>>>> opportunity for the BTN to step in, particularly given this week's
> news
>>> that
>>>>> Michigan would be stepping up their men's and women's programs to D1
>>> over the
>>>>> next couple of years.
>>>>> 
>>>>> And sure enough, the BTN made it happen. First game will be tape
> delayed
>>>>> following baseball at 9:30 or thereabouts (you can still watch the
>>> stream live
>>>>> starting at 6:30pm Central), and then the championship game will be
>>> aired live.
>>>>> Now if NU can just make it to that game!
>>>>> 
>>>>> It's been an interesting year for the Cats. We've had an absolutely
>>> miserable
>>>>> spring weather-wise here in Chicago, with February-esque conditions
>>> prevailing
>>>>> through March, April, and May (it's cold, windy, and wet out AGAIN
>>> today). The
>>>>> weather has been especially nasty for almost every Lax home
>>> game--horizontal
>>>>> snow, 30mph wind/40 degree mists, and so on. As a result, we missed
>>> several home
>>>>> games, and I wondered if ugly practice conditions might slow
> development
>>> of the
>>>>> team--although I think they do practice indoors sometimes.
>>>>> 
>>>>> The team started off well, winning some tough early matchups, but then
>>> struggled
>>>>> with back-to-back losses against fast-rising Florida and Johns
> Hopkins.
>>> The step
>>>>> backward wasn't terribly surprising, given the overall youth of this
>>> team in
>>>>> what is clearly a bit of a rebuilding year. To my outsider eyes, they
>>>>> also seemed to be lacking some of enthusiasm, and perhaps some of the
>>> vocal
>>>>> leadership, of past teams. Lamanto also had a shaky few games in goal,
>>> which was
>>>>> very unusual.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Since then, however, the defense has really started to crank it up,
>>> "Breezy"
>>>>> seemed to get her mojo back between the pipes, the offense has
> developed
>>> a much
>>>>> better flow, and Shannon Smith has been on an absolute tear scoring
>>> goals and
>>>>> dishing out assists (Shannon *not* being named ALC player of the year
>>> may have
>>>>> been the best thing to happen to the Cats--I think she's scored 5
> goals
>>> in every
>>>>> game since then).
>>>>> 
>>>>> The Cats exacted revenge over Florda in a tight conference title game,
>>> secured a
>>>>> hard-fought win over BC in the first round NCAA game, and then played
>>> easily
>>>>> their best game of the year in a complete dismantling of Albany last
>>> Saturday.
>>>>> The enthusiasm seems back in a big way.
>>>>> 
>>>>> They play North Carolina on Friday--a team they beat in OT on the road
>>> earlier
>>>>> this year, so that's clearly a tough but winnable game. If they get by
>>> NC, it's
>>>>> hard to see this team upsetting Maryland for the championship, but
>>> anything is
>>>>> possible.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Meanwhile, Taylor Thornton has built on the pure speed she displayed
>>> last year
>>>>> with ever-improving skills at picking up loose balls and causing
>>> turnovers.
>>>>> There's nothing more entertaining at a home game then hearing the
> crowd
>>> go nuts
>>>>> when she takes off on one of her patented end-to-end one woman clears,
>>> blowing
>>>>> past defenders who look like they are running in mud.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Should be fun to watch Friday's game. I just have to decide whether to
>>> watch the
>>>>> stream live or wait for the BTN delay.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Tom
>>>>> 
>>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>>> nwu-sports site list
>>>>> nwu-sports at tssi.com
>>>>> http://romaine.tssi.com/mailman/listinfo/nwu-sports
>>>> 
>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>> nwu-sports site list
>>>> nwu-sports at tssi.com
>>>> http://romaine.tssi.com/mailman/listinfo/nwu-sports
>>> 
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> nwu-sports site list
>>> nwu-sports at tssi.com
>>> http://romaine.tssi.com/mailman/listinfo/nwu-sports
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> nwu-sports site list
>>> nwu-sports at tssi.com
>>> http://romaine.tssi.com/mailman/listinfo/nwu-sports
>>> 
>> _______________________________________________
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>> nwu-sports at tssi.com
>> http://romaine.tssi.com/mailman/listinfo/nwu-sports
> 
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From jintsjason at me.com  Fri May 27 19:55:41 2011
From: jintsjason at me.com (Jason Singer)
Date: Fri, 27 May 2011 17:55:41 -0700
Subject: [NU Sports] Women's Lacrosse Live Stream link
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I don't care who she's rooting for, her voice might be the most annoying voice I have ever heard on television. As Alvy Singer says: 

"What I wouldn't do for a large sock of manure!"

Jason Singer
jintsjason at me.com
jason at jasonsinger.com




On May 27, 2011, at 5:02 PM, Alan Abrahamson wrote:

> Whoever is the color commentator is so rooting for Carolina it's not funny.
> I mean, really.
> 
> On Fri, May 27, 2011 at 4:41 PM, Tom Maycock <tkmaycock at yahoo.com> wrote:
> 
>> It is fine here--with about 6Mb cable internet. Rez isn't great, but
>> decent.
>> 
>> Tom
>> Sent via BlackBerry from T-Mobile
>> 
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Jason Singer <jintsjason at me.com>
>> Sender: nwu-sports-bounces at tssi.com
>> Date: Fri, 27 May 2011 16:36:53
>> To: Northwestern Wildcats<nwu-sports at tssi.com>
>> Subject: Re: [NU Sports] Women's Lacrosse Live Stream link
>> 
>> Anybody else getting a jittery image? Currently it's unwatchable.
>> 
>> Jason Singer
>> jintsjason at me.com
>> jason at jasonsinger.com
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> On May 27, 2011, at 4:30 PM, Jason Singer wrote:
>> 
>>> For those trying to find the stream:
>>> 
>>> 
>> http://www.ncaa.com/sites/default/files/external/liveplayer/champplayer/player.html?gameId=2011_WLA-1_302
>>> 
>>> Jason Singer
>>> jintsjason at me.com
>>> jason at jasonsinger.com
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On May 26, 2011, at 1:41 PM, Tom Maycock wrote:
>>> 
>>>> OK, I've been "lax" in commenting on the "Lax" team this year, but was
>> prompted
>>>> to post by the announcement that the Big Ten Network will be carrying
>> the final
>>>> four Women's Lacrosse games:
>>>> 
>>>> http://nusports.cstv.com/sports/w-lacros/spec-rel/052611aab.html
>>>> 
>>>> Much to my surprise, I had just found out via a forum thread at laxpower
>> that
>>>> CBS College Sports network wasn't carrying the final four games this
>> year as
>>>> they had in the past. So, as of this morning, the only way to watch was
>> going to
>>>> be the NCAA live internet feed (which Buffalo Wild Wings in Evanston was
>> picking
>>>> up).
>>>> 
>>>> Pretty sad step backward, and I was actually wondering whether there
>> might be an
>>>> opportunity for the BTN to step in, particularly given this week's news
>> that
>>>> Michigan would be stepping up their men's and women's programs to D1
>> over the
>>>> next couple of years.
>>>> 
>>>> And sure enough, the BTN made it happen. First game will be tape delayed
>>>> following baseball at 9:30 or thereabouts (you can still watch the
>> stream live
>>>> starting at 6:30pm Central), and then the championship game will be
>> aired live.
>>>> Now if NU can just make it to that game!
>>>> 
>>>> It's been an interesting year for the Cats. We've had an absolutely
>> miserable
>>>> spring weather-wise here in Chicago, with February-esque conditions
>> prevailing
>>>> through March, April, and May (it's cold, windy, and wet out AGAIN
>> today). The
>>>> weather has been especially nasty for almost every Lax home
>> game--horizontal
>>>> snow, 30mph wind/40 degree mists, and so on. As a result, we missed
>> several home
>>>> games, and I wondered if ugly practice conditions might slow development
>> of the
>>>> team--although I think they do practice indoors sometimes.
>>>> 
>>>> The team started off well, winning some tough early matchups, but then
>> struggled
>>>> with back-to-back losses against fast-rising Florida and Johns Hopkins.
>> The step
>>>> backward wasn't terribly surprising, given the overall youth of this
>> team in
>>>> what is clearly a bit of a rebuilding year. To my outsider eyes, they
>>>> also seemed to be lacking some of enthusiasm, and perhaps some of the
>> vocal
>>>> leadership, of past teams. Lamanto also had a shaky few games in goal,
>> which was
>>>> very unusual.
>>>> 
>>>> Since then, however, the defense has really started to crank it up,
>> "Breezy"
>>>> seemed to get her mojo back between the pipes, the offense has developed
>> a much
>>>> better flow, and Shannon Smith has been on an absolute tear scoring
>> goals and
>>>> dishing out assists (Shannon *not* being named ALC player of the year
>> may have
>>>> been the best thing to happen to the Cats--I think she's scored 5 goals
>> in every
>>>> game since then).
>>>> 
>>>> The Cats exacted revenge over Florda in a tight conference title game,
>> secured a
>>>> hard-fought win over BC in the first round NCAA game, and then played
>> easily
>>>> their best game of the year in a complete dismantling of Albany last
>> Saturday.
>>>> The enthusiasm seems back in a big way.
>>>> 
>>>> They play North Carolina on Friday--a team they beat in OT on the road
>> earlier
>>>> this year, so that's clearly a tough but winnable game. If they get by
>> NC, it's
>>>> hard to see this team upsetting Maryland for the championship, but
>> anything is
>>>> possible.
>>>> 
>>>> Meanwhile, Taylor Thornton has built on the pure speed she displayed
>> last year
>>>> with ever-improving skills at picking up loose balls and causing
>> turnovers.
>>>> There's nothing more entertaining at a home game then hearing the crowd
>> go nuts
>>>> when she takes off on one of her patented end-to-end one woman clears,
>> blowing
>>>> past defenders who look like they are running in mud.
>>>> 
>>>> Should be fun to watch Friday's game. I just have to decide whether to
>> watch the
>>>> stream live or wait for the BTN delay.
>>>> 
>>>> Tom
>>>> 
>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>> nwu-sports site list
>>>> nwu-sports at tssi.com
>>>> http://romaine.tssi.com/mailman/listinfo/nwu-sports
>>> 
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> nwu-sports site list
>>> nwu-sports at tssi.com
>>> http://romaine.tssi.com/mailman/listinfo/nwu-sports
>> 
>> _______________________________________________
>> nwu-sports site list
>> nwu-sports at tssi.com
>> http://romaine.tssi.com/mailman/listinfo/nwu-sports
>> _______________________________________________
>> nwu-sports site list
>> nwu-sports at tssi.com
>> http://romaine.tssi.com/mailman/listinfo/nwu-sports
>> 
> _______________________________________________
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From sportsbiz at gmail.com  Fri May 27 20:10:28 2011
From: sportsbiz at gmail.com (Sportsbiz)
Date: Fri, 27 May 2011 21:10:28 -0400
Subject: [NU Sports] Women's Lacrosse Live Stream link
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This color analyst had to have gone to UNC. She's just an incredible
"homer".
On May 27, 2011 8:56 PM, "Jason Singer" <jintsjason at me.com> wrote:

From tkmaycock at yahoo.com  Fri May 27 20:35:40 2011
From: tkmaycock at yahoo.com (Tom Maycock)
Date: Sat, 28 May 2011 01:35:40 +0000
Subject: [NU Sports] Women's Lacrosse Live Stream link
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I think they said Georgetown, but a homer anyway. Just awful. Switched to WNUR.

Cats were dominating until Lacey got carded. Need to regain composure.

Tom

Tom
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This color analyst had to have gone to UNC. She's just an incredible
"homer".
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From sportsbiz at gmail.com  Fri May 27 20:41:47 2011
From: sportsbiz at gmail.com (Sportsbiz)
Date: Fri, 27 May 2011 21:41:47 -0400
Subject: [NU Sports] Women's Lacrosse Live Stream link
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Time to four corners UNC, to borrow from their more famous sport.
On May 27, 2011 9:35 PM, "Tom Maycock" <tkmaycock at yahoo.com> wrote:
> I think they said Georgetown, but a homer anyway. Just awful. Switched to
WNUR.
>
> Cats were dominating until Lacey got carded. Need to regain composure.
>
> Tom
>
> Tom
> Sent via BlackBerry from T-Mobile
>
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> Subject: Re: [NU Sports] Women's Lacrosse Live Stream link
>
> This color analyst had to have gone to UNC. She's just an incredible
> "homer".
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From tkmaycock at yahoo.com  Fri May 27 20:57:54 2011
From: tkmaycock at yahoo.com (Tom Maycock)
Date: Fri, 27 May 2011 18:57:54 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [NU Sports] Women's Lacrosse Live Stream link
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That was a bad-ass game winning goal right there. 

Smith with the game winner, and Thornton coming up with the crucial pickup and 
clear to seal it was pretty representative of the entire year really. And what a 
game by Breezy--she was absolutely huge. (Or should I credit the Carolina 
players for "shooting it into her stick" all the time, as the color commentator 
would have it???)

Vingmostad and Flibotte had really nice games in the midfield and on defense 
too, and Alex Frank might have been the difference-maker in the 2nd half. Good 
team effort, although they got rattled a few times. A lot of credit for that 
goes to Carolina, but some of NU's youth probably contributed as well. 

Fun stuff. 

Tom

From tkmaycock at yahoo.com  Fri May 27 20:59:20 2011
From: tkmaycock at yahoo.com (Tom Maycock)
Date: Fri, 27 May 2011 18:59:20 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [NU Sports] Women's Lacrosse Live Stream link
Message-ID: <354800.87610.qm@web161009.mail.bf1.yahoo.com>

New single-season goal record for Smith as well, at 82. With more to come I 
hope.

Tom


>
>From: Tom Maycock <tkmaycock at yahoo.com>
>To: Sportsbiz <sportsbiz at gmail.com>
>Cc: Northwestern Wildcats <nwu-sports at tssi.com>
>Sent: Fri, May 27, 2011 8:57:54 PM
>Subject: Re: [NU Sports] Women's Lacrosse Live Stream link
>
>
>That was a bad-ass game winning goal right there. 
>
>
>Smith with the game winner, and Thornton coming up with the crucial pickup and 
>clear to seal it was pretty representative of the entire year really. And what a 
>game by Breezy--she was absolutely huge. (Or should I credit the Carolina 
>players for "shooting it into her stick" all the time, as the color commentator 
>would have it???)
>
>
>Vingmostad and Flibotte had really nice games in the midfield and on defense 
>too, and Alex Frank might have been the difference-maker in the 2nd half. Good 
>team effort, although they got rattled a few times. A lot of credit for that 
>goes to Carolina, but some of NU's youth probably contributed as well. 
>
>
>Fun  stuff. 
>
>
>Tom
>
>

From Willie.Weinbaum at espn.com  Fri May 27 21:08:17 2011
From: Willie.Weinbaum at espn.com (Weinbaum, Willie)
Date: Fri, 27 May 2011 22:08:17 -0400
Subject: [NU Sports] Women's Lacrosse Live Stream link
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Exciting to be there among the spirited purple people on a beautiful night - helluva thriller.

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Subject: Re: [NU Sports] Women's Lacrosse Live Stream link

New single-season goal record for Smith as well, at 82. With more to come I
hope.

Tom


>
>From: Tom Maycock <tkmaycock at yahoo.com>
>To: Sportsbiz <sportsbiz at gmail.com>
>Cc: Northwestern Wildcats <nwu-sports at tssi.com>
>Sent: Fri, May 27, 2011 8:57:54 PM
>Subject: Re: [NU Sports] Women's Lacrosse Live Stream link
>
>
>That was a bad-ass game winning goal right there.
>
>
>Smith with the game winner, and Thornton coming up with the crucial pickup and
>clear to seal it was pretty representative of the entire year really. And what a
>game by Breezy--she was absolutely huge. (Or should I credit the Carolina
>players for "shooting it into her stick" all the time, as the color commentator
>would have it???)
>
>
>Vingmostad and Flibotte had really nice games in the midfield and on defense
>too, and Alex Frank might have been the difference-maker in the 2nd half. Good
>team effort, although they got rattled a few times. A lot of credit for that
>goes to Carolina, but some of NU's youth probably contributed as well.
>
>
>Fun  stuff.
>
>
>Tom
>
>
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From MHRJGScott at aol.com  Fri May 27 21:55:27 2011
From: MHRJGScott at aol.com (MHRJGScott at aol.com)
Date: Fri, 27 May 2011 22:55:27 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: [NU Sports] Women's Lacrosse Live Stream link
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CATS WIN 11-10

From hakirsch at aol.com  Fri May 27 22:21:23 2011
From: hakirsch at aol.com (hakirsch at aol.com)
Date: Sat, 28 May 2011 03:21:23 +0000
Subject: [NU Sports] Women's Lacrosse Live Stream link
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Must have been a thriller !
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From rstetson at capps-assoc.com  Sat May 28 08:33:30 2011
From: rstetson at capps-assoc.com (Roy S. Lamberton)
Date: Sat, 28 May 2011 09:33:30 -0400
Subject: [NU Sports] Women's Lacrosse Live Stream link
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It was, score tied up until the last 2 minutes, the Cats got the ball somehow, ran their
famous slow down (if that is possible in Lacrosse) offense, scored to take the lead with
little time left on the clock, then burned the remainder of the clock to get the win.
Sorry I don't have all the names at my fingertips, but they were young and well schooled
and look to be back again and again. 

Even the announcers FINALLY kept commenting on how balanced the two teams were and how
well Amonte-Hiller trains and coaches Lacrosse Athletes.

It's going to be one H*** of a final. Returning Champ Maryland blows out Duke 11-5 and the
Cats find a way to win and get the revenge game after MD's win last year. 

And it was great to see all the young ladies in the stands sporting their Wildcat gear!

rsl

++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
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Computer Applications & Support Associates
-------------------- Also ----------------------
"Commissioner" Delaware American Legion Baseball
Director Media Relations - Little League 
  Senior League Softball World Series
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Northwestern University - Speech 1974 - 
Chi Phi: Pi 1974, KD 1968
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Must have been a thriller !
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From Willie.Weinbaum at espn.com  Sat May 28 09:52:51 2011
From: Willie.Weinbaum at espn.com (Weinbaum, Willie)
Date: Sat, 28 May 2011 10:52:51 -0400
Subject: [NU Sports] Women's Lacrosse Live Stream link
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Great fun sitting behind them - great spirit throughout.  Here are some links about the game:

http://nusports.cstv.com/sports/w-lacros/recaps/052711aaa.html?

http://www.laketheposts.com/index.php/2011/05/building-the-brand/?

http://www.laketheposts.com/index.php/2011/05/sweet-smith-cats-edge-unc-in-thriller-7th-straight-title-game-awaits/?

http://www.dailynorthwestern.com/lacrosse-smith-goal-with-18-seconds-remaining-propels-cats-to-11-10-victory-over-tar-heels-1.2579874


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It was, score tied up until the last 2 minutes, the Cats got the ball somehow, ran their
famous slow down (if that is possible in Lacrosse) offense, scored to take the lead with
little time left on the clock, then burned the remainder of the clock to get the win.
Sorry I don't have all the names at my fingertips, but they were young and well schooled
and look to be back again and again.

Even the announcers FINALLY kept commenting on how balanced the two teams were and how
well Amonte-Hiller trains and coaches Lacrosse Athletes.

It's going to be one H*** of a final. Returning Champ Maryland blows out Duke 11-5 and the
Cats find a way to win and get the revenge game after MD's win last year.

And it was great to see all the young ladies in the stands sporting their Wildcat gear!

rsl

++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
Roy S. Lamberton - Senior Associate & Unix Guru.
Computer Applications & Support Associates
-------------------- Also ----------------------
"Commissioner" Delaware American Legion Baseball
Director Media Relations - Little League
  Senior League Softball World Series
CTR2 USN (67-70) - CTRCS USNR (Ret) (64-67/70-95)
Northwestern University - Speech 1974 -
Chi Phi: Pi 1974, KD 1968
Publisher Emeritus: Purple Reign (Fox Sports)
================================================
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those of any organizations of which I am a member.
------------------------------------------------
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form a more perfect union, establish justice,
insure domestic tranquility, provide for the
common defense, promote the general welfare,
and secure the blessings of liberty to ourselves
and our posterity, do ordain and establish
this Constitution for the United States of America.
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Must have been a thriller !
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From sjtruog at yahoo.com  Sun May 29 17:00:56 2011
From: sjtruog at yahoo.com (SjT (Stephen J. Truog))
Date: Sun, 29 May 2011 15:00:56 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [NU Sports] LAX final ...
Message-ID: <695798.45950.qm@web121707.mail.ne1.yahoo.com>

Tense couple of final minutes there.

Congrats to Coach Amonte-Hiller and the Cats for getting revenge on Maryland for last year and winning another national title!

GO CATS!!!
-SjT


* * * * * * * * *
STEPHEN J. TRUOG
sjtruog at yahoo.com
GO CATS!!! GEAUX SAINTS!!!
Super Bowl XLIV Champions!
==========================


From MHRJGScott at aol.com  Sun May 29 18:36:33 2011
From: MHRJGScott at aol.com (MHRJGScott at aol.com)
Date: Sun, 29 May 2011 19:36:33 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: [NU Sports] LAX final ...
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whew when the twerps scored with a minute to go I thought uh oh, but we are 
 #1, as is Luke Donald who became the #1 golfer in the world, CATS!!!  RULE

From MHRJGScott at aol.com  Mon May 30 08:04:23 2011
From: MHRJGScott at aol.com (MHRJGScott at aol.com)
Date: Mon, 30 May 2011 09:04:23 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: [NU Sports] Tressel out
Message-ID: <499b9.68895ca4.3b14efd7@aol.com>

Good riddance

From sjtruog at yahoo.com  Mon May 30 10:53:22 2011
From: sjtruog at yahoo.com (SjT (Stephen J. Truog))
Date: Mon, 30 May 2011 08:53:22 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [NU Sports] Tressel out
In-Reply-To: <499b9.68895ca4.3b14efd7@aol.com>
Message-ID: <21400.41546.qm@web121720.mail.ne1.yahoo.com>

Wow.

I wonder if some of the bigwigs at the school got word of tough sanctions coming down and offered Tressel in return. Or if there was more to the scandal.

In any case, wow.

Tressel always seemed like a good guy (I still hated the Bucknuts, but their coach seemed like a class act) ... he always seemed unfairly labeled as a "can't win the big one" coach even though he DID win the big one, and won most of his bowls (better record than "Big Game" Bob) and thoroughly dominated his rival. It always seemed like more was demanded of him and that pressure got to him.

I've said it for decades now - Ohio State is an SEC school in Big Ten clothing. Now if the NCAA would only get after some of those SEC schools the way they have with USC and OSU in recent years - from oversigning and "gray shirting" to Cam Newton, that whole league is crooked.

Won't be shedding any tears for OSU fans or Coach Sweatervest, but not really gloating either as I would at the demise of Mr. Smugsmirk in Madison or RichRod or Nick the Slick or St. Urban of the Whiners.

This certainly shakes up the league and the balance of power shifts almost entirely to the "west" now. Michigan is still recovering from their disastrous coaching hire (a mistake OSU will try not to repeat). OSU is now in a tailspin and Penn State - while looking good this year - still has the looming question of who succeeds JoePa when THAT major transition comes around. 

Obvioulsly all three of those programs are college football royalty and won't be down long, but their transition could be a smooth one, or one like Nebraska experienced or Michigan is still experiencing.

For this next year, it's good news for Wisconsin and PSU in that quasi-east division, as it should come down to their game. It's also good for anyone who plays OSU early in the Big Ten slate while they're still finding their rhythm. Meanwhile, the quasi-west looks like the more competitive division and our "benefit" from skipping OSU on the rotation doesn't look as big now.

It's a huge shakeup. The question now is who takes over in Columbus.

GO CATS!!!
-SjT

* * * * * * * * *
STEPHEN J. TRUOG
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GO CATS!!! GEAUX SAINTS!!!
Super Bowl XLIV Champions!
==========================


From alan.abrahamson at gmail.com  Mon May 30 11:25:34 2011
From: alan.abrahamson at gmail.com (Alan Abrahamson)
Date: Mon, 30 May 2011 09:25:34 -0700
Subject: [NU Sports] Tressel out
In-Reply-To: <21400.41546.qm@web121720.mail.ne1.yahoo.com>
References: <499b9.68895ca4.3b14efd7@aol.com>
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1. I wonder if Tressel and Ohio State knew there was no wiggle room after
seeing the NCAA deny USC's appeal, and Tressel took the honorable
resignation route because he otherwise was going to have to get fired route.

2. The Big Ten is wide, wide open this year. Meaning we have as good a
chance to win this thing as anyone. I repeat: We can win.

Go Wildcats!

Alan

On Mon, May 30, 2011 at 8:53 AM, SjT (Stephen J. Truog)
<sjtruog at yahoo.com>wrote:

> Wow.
>
> I wonder if some of the bigwigs at the school got word of tough sanctions
> coming down and offered Tressel in return. Or if there was more to the
> scandal.
>
> In any case, wow.
>
> Tressel always seemed like a good guy (I still hated the Bucknuts, but
> their coach seemed like a class act) ... he always seemed unfairly labeled
> as a "can't win the big one" coach even though he DID win the big one, and
> won most of his bowls (better record than "Big Game" Bob) and thoroughly
> dominated his rival. It always seemed like more was demanded of him and that
> pressure got to him.
>
> I've said it for decades now - Ohio State is an SEC school in Big Ten
> clothing. Now if the NCAA would only get after some of those SEC schools the
> way they have with USC and OSU in recent years - from oversigning and "gray
> shirting" to Cam Newton, that whole league is crooked.
>
> Won't be shedding any tears for OSU fans or Coach Sweatervest, but not
> really gloating either as I would at the demise of Mr. Smugsmirk in Madison
> or RichRod or Nick the Slick or St. Urban of the Whiners.
>
> This certainly shakes up the league and the balance of power shifts almost
> entirely to the "west" now. Michigan is still recovering from their
> disastrous coaching hire (a mistake OSU will try not to repeat). OSU is now
> in a tailspin and Penn State - while looking good this year - still has the
> looming question of who succeeds JoePa when THAT major transition comes
> around.
>
> Obvioulsly all three of those programs are college football royalty and
> won't be down long, but their transition could be a smooth one, or one like
> Nebraska experienced or Michigan is still experiencing.
>
> For this next year, it's good news for Wisconsin and PSU in that quasi-east
> division, as it should come down to their game. It's also good for anyone
> who plays OSU early in the Big Ten slate while they're still finding their
> rhythm. Meanwhile, the quasi-west looks like the more competitive division
> and our "benefit" from skipping OSU on the rotation doesn't look as big now.
>
> It's a huge shakeup. The question now is who takes over in Columbus.
>
> GO CATS!!!
> -SjT
>
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From nolan at tssi.com  Mon May 30 11:41:50 2011
From: nolan at tssi.com (Mike Nolan)
Date: Mon, 30 May 2011 11:41:50 -0500 (CDT)
Subject: [NU Sports] Tressel out
In-Reply-To: <499b9.68895ca4.3b14efd7@aol.com>
Message-ID: <20110530164150.222B161086@romaine.tssi.com>

Here in Lincoln I'm told the UNL communications staff was called in
to work today (a holiday) to deal with handling this, as Nebraska
coach Bo Pelini is an OSU alum and might be on a lot of people's wish 
lists to replace Tressel.  (Also makes me wonder if OSU had planned to
announce this on Tuesday and it leaked.)

OSU has already announced that they won't hire a new coach right away,
though I suspect few people would take that job until there's a better
idea of what kind of bombshell the NCAA will be dropping.  OSU meets
with the NCAA in August, but a decision on sanctions isn't likely until
some time in the fall.
--
Mike Nolan


From sjtruog at yahoo.com  Mon May 30 12:01:05 2011
From: sjtruog at yahoo.com (SjT (Stephen J. Truog))
Date: Mon, 30 May 2011 10:01:05 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [NU Sports] Tressel out
In-Reply-To: <20110530164150.222B161086@romaine.tssi.com>
Message-ID: <193372.40703.qm@web121719.mail.ne1.yahoo.com>

> lists to replace Tressel.? (Also makes me wonder if
> OSU had planned to announce this on Tuesday and it leaked.)
> 
> OSU has already announced that they won't hire a new coach
> right away,

The timing does stink all around for OSU. Interesting things can happen when the interim guy gets a full year. It could fall apart and OSU could go on their big-name hunt for St. Urban or Pellini, or ...

... the Bucks could rally and have a year that sticks them with the interim guy (ala Miami and Larry Coker). You couldn't fire the guy who brought the team through a storm and won the Big Ten, could you? Even for St. Urban???

It should be an even more interesting Big Ten year ... I think some schools (Wisconsin, Nebraska) will smell blood in the water with OSU and look to step up. An OSU friend of mine at work had been bemoaning since January how UNL would come into the Big Ten and just dominate and I kept reminding him that people said the same thing about Penn State. But having the NCAA chop down your league's goliath a bit does make it easier for the Huskers to step in and dominate, especially with the league's other Big Blue-blood rebuilding from the RichRod disaster.

But it also opens things up for others to rise in the void - let's go Persa and LET'S GO CATS!!!
-SjT


From tbng at comcast.net  Mon May 30 14:28:52 2011
From: tbng at comcast.net (Dennis W. Brandt)
Date: Mon, 30 May 2011 15:28:52 -0400
Subject: [NU Sports] Alas, poor Tressel, we knew him well
Message-ID: <7B6E663ABAAB437C8B64F358F20BD6B6@dennismachine>

Who's throwing the pity party for poor wittle Ohio Snake?

From MHRJGScott at aol.com  Mon May 30 19:07:10 2011
From: MHRJGScott at aol.com (MHRJGScott at aol.com)
Date: Mon, 30 May 2011 20:07:10 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: [NU Sports] Tressel out
Message-ID: <17eb2.3ea94c7c.3b158b2e@aol.com>

Not so fast SjT, the SEC did not infect dOSU with dirtbag syndrome, they  
developed their own BT version just fine. Tressel had been practicing 
cheating  ever since Youngstown State, some people call me Maurice..etc. Corruption 
is  everywhere in big money college football, the CATS!!! have one of the 
cleanest  program, but I know of some hijinks even with our own kids.  I 
think the  idea of paying the players and signing them to a contract where as 
they owe a  refund of their tuition if proven to have taken payoffs is the way 
to go. When I  got my MBA, my employer paid half my tuition and I left 
their employ right after  graduation for double my salary. They quickly changed 
the policy to where anyone  taking the money had to stay around or pay it 
back.

From nolan at tssi.com  Mon May 30 22:23:49 2011
From: nolan at tssi.com (Mike Nolan)
Date: Mon, 30 May 2011 22:23:49 -0500 (CDT)
Subject: [NU Sports] SI story on Tressel is out
Message-ID: <20110531032349.95CFD61086@romaine.tssi.com>

Here's a link to the SI home page, which is featuring the story 
on Tressel.

It looks like they did some last-minute editing of it to reflect 
today's resignation.

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/
--
Mike Nolan


From rstetson at capps-assoc.com  Tue May 31 06:50:43 2011
From: rstetson at capps-assoc.com (Roy S. Lamberton)
Date: Tue, 31 May 2011 07:50:43 -0400
Subject: [NU Sports] Tressel out
In-Reply-To: <17eb2.3ea94c7c.3b158b2e@aol.com>
References: <17eb2.3ea94c7c.3b158b2e@aol.com>
Message-ID: <000001cc1f88$f908d260$eb1a7720$@com>

FWIW - the military has always required it officers and men to sign extensions of their
contracts when they attend the upper level schools. 

For example, Naval Academy guys are technically on the hook for 6 years. Electronics Techs
also extend their enlistments for 2 additional years just to get into the electronics
school.

One the other hand, our local school district used to have a fund that paid for higher
education by its teachers. My wife got her masters through that program and didn't have to
agree to stay at in the district for any greater length of time.

I'm surprised more private industry doesn't have rules regarding higher education and
employment terms. I guess you have to have an real employment contract to have such
things.

rsl
	
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  Senior League Softball World Series
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MHRJGScott at aol.com
Sent: Monday, May 30, 2011 8:07 PM
To: nwu-sports at tssi.com
Subject: Re: [NU Sports] Tressel out

Not so fast SjT, the SEC did not infect dOSU with dirtbag syndrome, they  
developed their own BT version just fine. Tressel had been practicing 
cheating  ever since Youngstown State, some people call me Maurice..etc. Corruption 
is  everywhere in big money college football, the CATS!!! have one of the 
cleanest  program, but I know of some hijinks even with our own kids.  I 
think the  idea of paying the players and signing them to a contract where as 
they owe a  refund of their tuition if proven to have taken payoffs is the way 
to go. When I  got my MBA, my employer paid half my tuition and I left 
their employ right after  graduation for double my salary. They quickly changed 
the policy to where anyone  taking the money had to stay around or pay it 
back.
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From rstetson at capps-assoc.com  Tue May 31 07:25:37 2011
From: rstetson at capps-assoc.com (Roy S. Lamberton)
Date: Tue, 31 May 2011 08:25:37 -0400
Subject: [NU Sports] A dumb question....
Message-ID: <000101cc1f8d$d93d6130$8bb82390$@com>

If all these newspaper guys knew all this dirt about Tressel.

Why didn't they put it out, instead of letting the rumors fester? 

Just because they are Ohio's premier pro team (much the same as the Sooners were in
Oklahoma back in the 1990's under Barry S.) doesn't mean that you don't report the news.

Or is there a double standard in American sports coverage..... 

rsl

++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
Roy S. Lamberton - Senior Associate & Unix Guru.
Computer Applications & Support Associates
-------------------- Also ----------------------
"Commissioner" Delaware American Legion Baseball
Director Media Relations - Little League 
  Senior League Softball World Series
CTR2 USN (67-70) - CTRCS USNR (Ret) (64-67/70-95)
Northwestern University - Speech 1974 - 
Chi Phi: Pi 1974, KD 1968
Publisher Emeritus: Purple Reign (Fox Sports)
================================================
Opinions expressed above are mine alone and are not
those of any organizations of which I am a member.
------------------------------------------------
We the people of the United States, in order to 
form a more perfect union, establish justice, 
insure domestic tranquility, provide for the 
common defense, promote the general welfare, 
and secure the blessings of liberty to ourselves 
and our posterity, do ordain and establish 
this Constitution for the United States of America.
==========  Go Cats -? Beat 'em All  ===========





From Jeff.Beamsley at covisint.com  Tue May 31 07:24:52 2011
From: Jeff.Beamsley at covisint.com (Beamsley, Jeff)
Date: Tue, 31 May 2011 08:24:52 -0400
Subject: [NU Sports] Tressel out
In-Reply-To: <20110530164150.222B161086@romaine.tssi.com>
References: <499b9.68895ca4.3b14efd7@aol.com>
 <20110530164150.222B161086@romaine.tssi.com>
Message-ID: <FA7822545C26F244823CA5D312ABBDEA0749FFC0@nasa-dtw-ex006.nasa.cpwr.corp>

I think that the timing of the announcement was primarily motivated by
the planned release of the SI article.

The SI folks have been through this a couple of times already.  They
gave the university a draft of the article a week ago.  That gave the
University a chance to take some action ahead of the publication date.
That in turn virtually guaranteed tremendous interest in the SI article
that prompted whatever action the University took. SI's plan appeared to
work quite well for them.

I agree with others on the coaching discussion.  None of the big names
including Pelini are going to consider this job until the NCAA weighs
in.  That isn't going to be until sometime this fall.

My bet is that it is going to be similar to USC.  They will find that
there was a lack of institutional control, take away some scholarships,
ban OSU from post season play, and allow players to transfer without
penalty to other programs.  Pryor is likely gone with a season
suspension and will enter the draft next year.  He probably won't be the
only one.  Tressel is the interesting question.  They could elect to
make an example of him and effectively end his coaching career with
stiff sanctions for any college that hired him.
 
Should be a wide open BT.  If NU were ever going to make a run at a BT
championship in this new league format.  This is the year.  Also it
would be sweet revenge for Hoke to start his UoM coaching career with a
win over OSU.

Finally, at the bottom of all of this I'm gobsmacked by Tressel's
hypocrisy.  I still can't figure it out.  Either he is pathologically
cynical and it was all an act, or he is deeply delusional and somehow
able to separate his actions from this beliefs.  I'm sure we are going
to read a fair number of conspiracy theories around Tressel being setup
to take the fall for a corrupt institution, and there could be some
truth to that too.  This quote from the SI article, however, pretty much
summed it up for me.

"In the morning he would read the Bible with another coach. Then, in the
afternoon, he would go out and cheat kids who had probably saved up
money from mowing lawns to buy those raffle tickets. That's Jim
Tressel."

Jeff



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From: nwu-sports-bounces at tssi.com [mailto:nwu-sports-bounces at tssi.com]
On Behalf Of Mike Nolan
Sent: Monday, May 30, 2011 12:42 PM
To: MHRJGScott at aol.com
Cc: nwu-sports at tssi.com
Subject: Re: [NU Sports] Tressel out

Here in Lincoln I'm told the UNL communications staff was called in
to work today (a holiday) to deal with handling this, as Nebraska
coach Bo Pelini is an OSU alum and might be on a lot of people's wish 
lists to replace Tressel.  (Also makes me wonder if OSU had planned to
announce this on Tuesday and it leaked.)

OSU has already announced that they won't hire a new coach right away,
though I suspect few people would take that job until there's a better
idea of what kind of bombshell the NCAA will be dropping.  OSU meets
with the NCAA in August, but a decision on sanctions isn't likely until
some time in the fall.
--
Mike Nolan

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From Jeff.Beamsley at covisint.com  Tue May 31 07:33:28 2011
From: Jeff.Beamsley at covisint.com (Beamsley, Jeff)
Date: Tue, 31 May 2011 08:33:28 -0400
Subject: [NU Sports] A dumb question....
In-Reply-To: <000101cc1f8d$d93d6130$8bb82390$@com>
References: <000101cc1f8d$d93d6130$8bb82390$@com>
Message-ID: <FA7822545C26F244823CA5D312ABBDEA0749FFC9@nasa-dtw-ex006.nasa.cpwr.corp>

There are a number of references in the SI article to folks who refused to be named because of fear of retribution from either the University or the fans.

My favorite quote from Carr was about OSU fans.  He told his team that they would know when they entered the city limits when the players started seeing grandmothers gathered on street corners waving.  If you looked closely you saw that they were waving only one finger.

Jeff


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From: nwu-sports-bounces at tssi.com [mailto:nwu-sports-bounces at tssi.com] On Behalf Of Roy S. Lamberton
Sent: Tuesday, May 31, 2011 8:26 AM
To: nwu-sports at tssi.com
Subject: [NU Sports] A dumb question....

If all these newspaper guys knew all this dirt about Tressel.

Why didn't they put it out, instead of letting the rumors fester? 

Just because they are Ohio's premier pro team (much the same as the Sooners were in
Oklahoma back in the 1990's under Barry S.) doesn't mean that you don't report the news.

Or is there a double standard in American sports coverage..... 

rsl

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  Senior League Softball World Series
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From Jeff.Beamsley at covisint.com  Tue May 31 07:36:21 2011
From: Jeff.Beamsley at covisint.com (Beamsley, Jeff)
Date: Tue, 31 May 2011 08:36:21 -0400
Subject: [NU Sports] Tressel out
In-Reply-To: <000001cc1f88$f908d260$eb1a7720$@com>
References: <17eb2.3ea94c7c.3b158b2e@aol.com>
 <000001cc1f88$f908d260$eb1a7720$@com>
Message-ID: <FA7822545C26F244823CA5D312ABBDEA0749FFCD@nasa-dtw-ex006.nasa.cpwr.corp>

Most private employers these days DO require a certain amount of service in return for funding educational costs.  My oldest son recently had to repay some of what Honeywell had paid for his Masters degree when he got a better job closer to home with GE.

Jeff


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From: nwu-sports-bounces at tssi.com [mailto:nwu-sports-bounces at tssi.com] On Behalf Of Roy S. Lamberton
Sent: Tuesday, May 31, 2011 7:51 AM
To: MHRJGScott at aol.com; nwu-sports at tssi.com
Subject: Re: [NU Sports] Tressel out

FWIW - the military has always required it officers and men to sign extensions of their
contracts when they attend the upper level schools. 

For example, Naval Academy guys are technically on the hook for 6 years. Electronics Techs
also extend their enlistments for 2 additional years just to get into the electronics
school.

One the other hand, our local school district used to have a fund that paid for higher
education by its teachers. My wife got her masters through that program and didn't have to
agree to stay at in the district for any greater length of time.

I'm surprised more private industry doesn't have rules regarding higher education and
employment terms. I guess you have to have an real employment contract to have such
things.

rsl
	
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Computer Applications & Support Associates
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"Commissioner" Delaware American Legion Baseball
Director Media Relations - Little League 
  Senior League Softball World Series
CTR2 USN (67-70) - CTRCS USNR (Ret) (64-67/70-95)
Northwestern University - Speech 1974 - 
Chi Phi: Pi 1974, KD 1968
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MHRJGScott at aol.com
Sent: Monday, May 30, 2011 8:07 PM
To: nwu-sports at tssi.com
Subject: Re: [NU Sports] Tressel out

Not so fast SjT, the SEC did not infect dOSU with dirtbag syndrome, they  
developed their own BT version just fine. Tressel had been practicing 
cheating  ever since Youngstown State, some people call me Maurice..etc. Corruption 
is  everywhere in big money college football, the CATS!!! have one of the 
cleanest  program, but I know of some hijinks even with our own kids.  I 
think the  idea of paying the players and signing them to a contract where as 
they owe a  refund of their tuition if proven to have taken payoffs is the way 
to go. When I  got my MBA, my employer paid half my tuition and I left 
their employ right after  graduation for double my salary. They quickly changed 
the policy to where anyone  taking the money had to stay around or pay it 
back.
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From marks83588 at aol.com  Tue May 31 07:41:56 2011
From: marks83588 at aol.com (marks83588 at aol.com)
Date: Tue, 31 May 2011 08:41:56 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: [NU Sports] Tressel out
In-Reply-To: <FA7822545C26F244823CA5D312ABBDEA0749FFC0@nasa-dtw-ex006.nasa.cpwr.corp>
References: <499b9.68895ca4.3b14efd7@aol.com><20110530164150.222B161086@romaine.tssi.com>
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Message-ID: <8CDEDA7429172BC-1BB8-762AA@webmail-d144.sysops.aol.com>

For NU to win the Big 10 this year they need to beat UNL in L. A mighty tall order IMHO. UDub is always tough and PSU may be playing the final hurrah for JoePa. So while no question dOSU will have a tough row to hoe without JT, by no means will the Big 10 be an easy conference to win this year........



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hould be a wide open BT.  If NU were ever going to make a run at a BT
hampionship in this new league format.  This is the year.  Also it
ould be sweet revenge for Hoke to start his UoM coaching career with a
in over OSU.
Jeff

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ubject: Re: [NU Sports] Tressel out
Here in Lincoln I'm told the UNL communications staff was called in
o work today (a holiday) to deal with handling this, as Nebraska
oach Bo Pelini is an OSU alum and might be on a lot of people's wish 
ists to replace Tressel.  (Also makes me wonder if OSU had planned to
nnounce this on Tuesday and it leaked.)
OSU has already announced that they won't hire a new coach right away,
hough I suspect few people would take that job until there's a better
dea of what kind of bombshell the NCAA will be dropping.  OSU meets
ith the NCAA in August, but a decision on sanctions isn't likely until
ome time in the fall.
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From alan.abrahamson at gmail.com  Tue May 31 08:39:00 2011
From: alan.abrahamson at gmail.com (Alan Abrahamson)
Date: Tue, 31 May 2011 06:39:00 -0700
Subject: [NU Sports] A dumb question....
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Message-ID: <BANLkTinr21vVArCpRxvJw-Do7de-dEEytw@mail.gmail.com>

I don't think "all these newspaper guys knew all this dirt" is the answer.

My guess -- I stress I don't know -- is that there's a fair amount of
original reporting in the story.


On Tue, May 31, 2011 at 5:25 AM, Roy S. Lamberton
<rstetson at capps-assoc.com>wrote:

> If all these newspaper guys knew all this dirt about Tressel.
>
> Why didn't they put it out, instead of letting the rumors fester?
>
> Just because they are Ohio's premier pro team (much the same as the Sooners
> were in
> Oklahoma back in the 1990's under Barry S.) doesn't mean that you don't
> report the news.
>
> Or is there a double standard in American sports coverage.....
>
> rsl
>
> ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
> Roy S. Lamberton - Senior Associate & Unix Guru.
> Computer Applications & Support Associates
> -------------------- Also ----------------------
> "Commissioner" Delaware American Legion Baseball
> Director Media Relations - Little League
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> Northwestern University - Speech 1974 -
> Chi Phi: Pi 1974, KD 1968
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> those of any organizations of which I am a member.
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> and secure the blessings of liberty to ourselves
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> this Constitution for the United States of America.
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From mzilka at sbcglobal.net  Tue May 31 09:14:26 2011
From: mzilka at sbcglobal.net (Marilyn J Zilka)
Date: Tue, 31 May 2011 07:14:26 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [NU Sports] Terrifc article on KAH
Message-ID: <692045.93989.qm@web83502.mail.sp1.yahoo.com>

http://www.chicagotribune.com/sports/college/ct-spt-0531-hersh-nu-lacrosse--20110530,0,386271.column

From jleonard518 at yahoo.com  Tue May 31 09:37:47 2011
From: jleonard518 at yahoo.com (Jim Leonard)
Date: Tue, 31 May 2011 07:37:47 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [NU Sports] Gordon Gee
Message-ID: <73205.78734.qm@web36807.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

Fellow Wildcat Faithful,

I'll admit to taking great joy in watching tOSU unravel, but at the end of the 
day it's an embarassing reflection on the Big Ten. 


I find it very interesting that this all happened while Gordon Gee was president 
at tOSU. I was in business school at Vanderbilt when he so proudly dismantled 
the athletic department there. I don't have a direct quote from him but the 
general idea what that the athletic departemnt kept the student-athletes apart 
from the regular students and that was a bad thing. 


If Gee survives in Columbus I wonder if he'd have the courage to implement the 
same strategy at a school where the athletic department is clearly doing damage 
to the university.

Victory & Honor,
Jim


From Jeff.Beamsley at covisint.com  Tue May 31 10:11:40 2011
From: Jeff.Beamsley at covisint.com (Beamsley, Jeff)
Date: Tue, 31 May 2011 11:11:40 -0400
Subject: [NU Sports] Gordon Gee
In-Reply-To: <73205.78734.qm@web36807.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
References: <73205.78734.qm@web36807.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
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My sense when all of this started was that Tressel was taking a fall for
the institution.  That doesn't absolve Tressel for what he did, but I
just have hard time figuring that Tressel did all of this on his own.

If Tressel did tell Smith, I'm sure Smith would have told Gee.

As the SI article pointed out, most coaches (and institutions) create
plausible deniability by letting their assistant coaches do the dirty
work.  The fact that it didn't go down this way at OSU also suggests
that Tressel was acting with Smith and Gee's tacit approval.  

When these things unravel, all sorts of ugly stuff usually spills out on
the front yard for all to see.  It will be interesting.

Someone here at work reminded me that this is probably the first time in
100+ years of OSU/Michigan games that both teams will have rookie
coaches. 

Jeff


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From: nwu-sports-bounces at tssi.com [mailto:nwu-sports-bounces at tssi.com]
On Behalf Of Jim Leonard
Sent: Tuesday, May 31, 2011 10:38 AM
To: Northwestern Wildcats
Subject: [NU Sports] Gordon Gee

Fellow Wildcat Faithful,

I'll admit to taking great joy in watching tOSU unravel, but at the end
of the 
day it's an embarassing reflection on the Big Ten. 


I find it very interesting that this all happened while Gordon Gee was
president 
at tOSU. I was in business school at Vanderbilt when he so proudly
dismantled 
the athletic department there. I don't have a direct quote from him but
the 
general idea what that the athletic departemnt kept the student-athletes
apart 
from the regular students and that was a bad thing. 


If Gee survives in Columbus I wonder if he'd have the courage to
implement the 
same strategy at a school where the athletic department is clearly doing
damage 
to the university.

Victory & Honor,
Jim

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From rstetson at capps-assoc.com  Tue May 31 10:31:21 2011
From: rstetson at capps-assoc.com (Roy S. Lamberton)
Date: Tue, 31 May 2011 11:31:21 -0400
Subject: [NU Sports] A dumb question....
In-Reply-To: <BANLkTinr21vVArCpRxvJw-Do7de-dEEytw@mail.gmail.com>
References: <000101cc1f8d$d93d6130$8bb82390$@com>
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I always heard "rumbles" of problems in Columbus, even when I did some webcasts with the
Bucknuts guys. There were things they just didn't want to talk about, and I couldn't guess
what they were, since all I heard were those "rumbles" of "issues" with the players.

 

I also seem to remember that Tressell moved his office to be closer to the locker room
when he took over, with the stated reason that he wouldn't tolerate the shenanigans that
had gone on with his predecessor. Now it seems that he was just trying to keep a lid on
all the stuff going on.

 

You also could have gauged the depth of the problems when the Alumni withheld the charm
that they give to the team every time they beat Michigan. 

 

Now comes the deep look into every other program in the Big 10 - while the "$100
handshake" continues elsewhere. They've just perfected it so you can't see it.

 

But now we know why dOSU wanted to give the players a "stipend" in addition to their
scholarship.

 

rsl

 

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Computer Applications & Support Associates

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==========  Go Cats -  Beat 'em All  ===========

 

 

From: Alan Abrahamson [mailto:alan.abrahamson at gmail.com] 
Sent: Tuesday, May 31, 2011 9:39 AM
To: Roy S. Lamberton
Cc: nwu-sports at tssi.com
Subject: Re: [NU Sports] A dumb question....

 

I don't think "all these newspaper guys knew all this dirt" is the answer.

 

My guess -- I stress I don't know -- is that there's a fair amount of original reporting
in the story.

 

On Tue, May 31, 2011 at 5:25 AM, Roy S. Lamberton <rstetson at capps-assoc.com> wrote:

If all these newspaper guys knew all this dirt about Tressel.

Why didn't they put it out, instead of letting the rumors fester?

Just because they are Ohio's premier pro team (much the same as the Sooners were in
Oklahoma back in the 1990's under Barry S.) doesn't mean that you don't report the news.

Or is there a double standard in American sports coverage.....

rsl

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Director Media Relations - Little League
 Senior League Softball World Series
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From bondscoop at gmail.com  Tue May 31 11:11:20 2011
From: bondscoop at gmail.com (Michael Jackson)
Date: Tue, 31 May 2011 11:11:20 -0500
Subject: [NU Sports] TCU transfer to NU BB team next year
Message-ID: <03e401cc1fad$61db0a50$25911ef0$@gmail.com>

http://nusports.cstv.com/sports/m-baskbl/spec-rel/053111aab.html


From rstetson at capps-assoc.com  Tue May 31 11:39:08 2011
From: rstetson at capps-assoc.com (Roy S. Lamberton)
Date: Tue, 31 May 2011 12:39:08 -0400
Subject: [NU Sports] TCU transfer to NU BB team next year
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References: <03e401cc1fad$61db0a50$25911ef0$@gmail.com>
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Like the 4 rebound average, but he obviously wasn't going to start for TCU as a junior.

rsl

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  Senior League Softball World Series
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From atongchan at gmail.com  Tue May 31 12:34:15 2011
From: atongchan at gmail.com (Scott Relyea)
Date: Tue, 31 May 2011 13:34:15 -0400
Subject: [NU Sports] Terrifc article on KAH
Message-ID: <BANLkTikCW1QYTkKfi6NmJqgrCASFTMO3FQ@mail.gmail.com>

In that vein of NU's top coaches, another excellent article probably few of
you saw from last month about the coach 'you've never heard of'...
(disclosure, my former coach in the early '90s when there still was a men's
varsity team)

http://www.chicagomag.com/Chicago-Magazine/May-2011/Laurie-Schiller-Northwestern-Fencing-the-Most-Successful-College-Coach-Youve-Never-Heard-Of/?sms_ss=facebook&at_xt=4dbf4275c91fde0a%2C0

NU's athletes improve and excel because of coaches like Laurie, KAH & the
oft-mentioned Fitz...

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Date: Tue, 31 May 2011 19:53:21 +0000
Subject: [NU Sports] Fw: Big Ten Insider: 'Big Ten Football Report' to
	Discuss Tressel's Resignation Tonight
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From nolan at tssi.com  Tue May 31 17:49:51 2011
From: nolan at tssi.com (Mike Nolan)
Date: Tue, 31 May 2011 17:49:51 -0500 (CDT)
Subject: [NU Sports] Gordon Gee
In-Reply-To: <73205.78734.qm@web36807.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <20110531224951.608D76109F@romaine.tssi.com>

> If Gee survives in Columbus I wonder if he'd have the courage to implement 
> the same strategy at a school where the athletic department is clearly 
> doing damage to the university.

Pretty big IF.  It would not surprise me if he steps down within the 
next year, possibly 'encouraged' to do so like JT was.
--
Mike Nolan


From MHRJGScott at aol.com  Tue May 31 18:41:21 2011
From: MHRJGScott at aol.com (MHRJGScott at aol.com)
Date: Tue, 31 May 2011 19:41:21 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: [NU Sports] Gordon Gee
Message-ID: <21978.754f3845.3b16d6a1@aol.com>

Yes as Mike says a mighty big IF, after seeing how big schools operate  
from the inside it is hard to overestimate the power that the president has to  
manipulate the politics to stay in office. If fund raising is hurt and he 
is  somehow directly implicated in the lies and cover up, maybe he goes. I 
doubt  it.

From sportsbiz at gmail.com  Tue May 31 19:15:24 2011
From: sportsbiz at gmail.com (Sportsbiz)
Date: Tue, 31 May 2011 20:15:24 -0400
Subject: [NU Sports] Gordon Gee
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At Vandy he didn't have an athletic department that grossed over
$100,00,000. and in the words of the Chairman of the OSU Board, Leslie
Wexner, defined the University.
Mark

On Tue, May 31, 2011 at 10:37 AM, Jim Leonard <jleonard518 at yahoo.com> wrote:

> Fellow Wildcat Faithful,
>
> I'll admit to taking great joy in watching tOSU unravel, but at the end of
> the
> day it's an embarassing reflection on the Big Ten.
>
>
> I find it very interesting that this all happened while Gordon Gee was
> president
> at tOSU. I was in business school at Vanderbilt when he so proudly
> dismantled
> the athletic department there. I don't have a direct quote from him but the
> general idea what that the athletic departemnt kept the student-athletes
> apart
> from the regular students and that was a bad thing.
>
>
> If Gee survives in Columbus I wonder if he'd have the courage to implement
> the
> same strategy at a school where the athletic department is clearly doing
> damage
> to the university.
>
> Victory & Honor,
> Jim
>
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From MHRJGScott at aol.com  Tue May 31 19:48:02 2011
From: MHRJGScott at aol.com (MHRJGScott at aol.com)
Date: Tue, 31 May 2011 20:48:02 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: [NU Sports] Evans Scholars
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Show on BT network at 9 EST, one of my favorite programs named after  our 
own Chick Evans, the Yankee Bobby Jones. I always supported the caddies at  
North Shore CC and this great idea of Chick's has educated 8000 young  men.

