[NU Sports] Buckeyes in Hot Water with NCAA (Again)?

Roy S. Lamberton rstetson at capps-assoc.com
Wed Mar 9 12:06:16 CST 2011 

I like Ohio A & M myself.

Kinda like UNL for Nebraska?

rsl

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-----Original Message-----
From: nwu-sports-bounces at tssi.com [mailto:nwu-sports-bounces at tssi.com] On Behalf Of Evans
Schoeman
Sent: Wednesday, March 09, 2011 12:43 PM
To: Jim Bendat; nwu-sports at tssi.com
Subject: Re: [NU Sports] Buckeyes in Hot Water with NCAA (Again)?

Jim,

Checked with my friend, and he was mistaken:  his diploma does include the 
"The".

Here's the "official" university line...

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Why are we called ""THE" Ohio State University"?
In 1986, a new University logo was introduced in the hopes of moving away from 
the "OSU" symbol, which had been used since 1977. The change from simply "OSU" 
was said to "reflect the national stature of the institution." University 
officials wanted the institution to be known as "The Ohio State University," 
again, since OSU could also mean Oregon State and Oklahoma State University.

However, the "The" was actually part of the state legislation when the 
university was renamed in 1878. The following excerpt is from the Board of 
Trustee minutes: 

"...the educational institution heretofore known as the 'Ohio Agricultural and 
Mechanical College,' shall be known and designated hereafter as 'The Ohio State 
University.'"

Those who wanted the name change thought the original name was too narrow in 
scope, and that it was inadequate for the institution that was the only 
beneficiary of the land grant act. President Edward Orton was insistent that a 
new name would separate the institution from other colleges in Ohio. 


Legend also has it that "The" was used to show the other colleges which 
institution was supposed to be the leader in the state - both in size and in 
financial support from the legislature.


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From: Jim Bendat <thehaze at earthlink.net>
To: nwu-sports at tssi.com
Sent: Wed, March 9, 2011 10:40:49 AM
Subject: Re: [NU Sports] Buckeyes in Hot Water with NCAA (Again)?

I just took a look at my 1969 Rose Bowl program. That game was Ohio State vs. 
SC. On the title page (which would be the equivalent of page 3), it clearly says 
University of Southern California vs. The Ohio State University. - Jim B.


-----Original Message-----
>From: Evans Schoeman <eschoeman at sbcglobal.net>
>Sent: Mar 8, 2011 9:10 PM
>To: "Roy S. Lamberton" <rstetson at capps-assoc.com>, hakirsch at aol.com
>Cc: nwu-sports at tssi.com
>Subject: Re: [NU Sports] Buckeyes in Hot Water with NCAA (Again)?
>
>Was talking to a good friend who graduated from tOSU around 1970.  His diploma 
>says simply "Ohio State University".
>
>He thinks that the "The" was added to the school name sometime in the mid-80s.  

>Not sure why, but it certainly gives outsiders something else to ridicule.
>
>
>
>
>
>________________________________
>From: Roy S. Lamberton <rstetson at capps-assoc.com>
>To: hakirsch at aol.com
>Cc: nwu-sports at tssi.com
>Sent: Tue, March 8, 2011 9:51:23 PM
>Subject: RE: [NU Sports] Buckeyes in Hot Water with NCAA (Again)?
>
>I'm adding the full list to this thread since we're talking about things that 
>partially
>originated here....
>
>I just remember that the AD while I was at NU (72-74) 
>
>1. Hired Tex Winter to coach baseketball
>2. Put in the Tartan Turf field at Dyche.
>
>In any case, when I was first doing Purple Reign for then Rivals, a few of our 
>posters
>both here and on the chat rooms there started mocking The Ohio State University 

>by
>abbreviating the name tOSU.
>
>After a year or so, the NCAA started making a lot of noise about graduation 
>rates, and
>published a rather damning document Football grad rate at about 40% and their 
>Baseketball
>rate at under 20%.
>
>I remember posting a commentary to the effect that until tOSU got those numbers 

>up above
>50%, I would call them d (for duh) OSU instead. It caught on among a few readers 
>
>- I think
>there are a couple of guys who still use it. 
>
>I was on the Bucknuts radio show talking about NU football one time, and my 
>appearance was
>questioned by some readers, stating that I used dOSU in my commentaries. Now 
>that I'm not
>writing much for sports, I've lost track of the grad rates at dOSU - are they 
>any better?
>
>rsl
>
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>Roy S. Lamberton - Senior Associate & Unix Guru.
>Computer Applications & Support Associates
>-------------------- Also ----------------------
>"Commissioner" Delaware American Legion Baseball
>Director Media Relations - Little League 
>  Senior League Softball World Series
>CTRCS USN/USNR Retired
>Northwestern University - Speech 1974 - 
>Chi Phi: Pi 1974, KD 1968
>Publisher Emeritus: Purple Reign (Fox Sports)
>==========  Go Cats -  Beat 'em All  ===========
>"...Then I get on my knees and pray,
>WE DON'T GET FOOLED AGAIN!" -- Pete Townsend
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>-----Original Message-----
>From: hakirsch at aol.com [mailto:hakirsch at aol.com] 
>Sent: Tuesday, March 08, 2011 7:41 PM
>To: Roy S. Lamberton
>Subject: Re: [NU Sports] Buckeyes in Hot Water with NCAA (Again)?
>
>Oh and Tippy Dye who was the AD at NU when you were there and was the QB at OSU 

>when my
>dad went there
>Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: "Roy S. Lamberton" <rstetson at capps-assoc.com>
>Date: Tue, 8 Mar 2011 19:34:05 
>To: <hakirsch at aol.com>
>Subject: RE: [NU Sports] Buckeyes in Hot Water with NCAA (Again)?
>
>Yes, dOSU actually comes from some NU alums referring to them as tOSU in posts.
>
>I changed the "t" to "d" when one of the NCAA reports on graduation came out 
>showing their
>lack of graduation prowess. I used to get roundly boiled by the dOSU alums on 
>the chat
>boards because I did that.
>
>Oh well, old news now that St. Tressel is about to be skewered.
>
>
>rsl
>
>
>
>++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
>Roy S. Lamberton - Senior Associate & Unix Guru.
>Computer Applications & Support Associates
>-------------------- Also ----------------------
>"Commissioner" Delaware American Legion Baseball
>Director Media Relations - Little League 
>  Senior League Softball World Series
>CTRCS USN/USNR Retired
>Northwestern University - Speech 1974 - 
>Chi Phi: Pi 1974, KD 1968
>Publisher Emeritus: Purple Reign (Fox Sports)
>==========  Go Cats -  Beat 'em All  ===========
>"...Then I get on my knees and pray,
>WE DON'T GET FOOLED AGAIN!" -- Pete Townsend
>================================================
>
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: hakirsch at aol.com [mailto:hakirsch at aol.com] 
>Sent: Tuesday, March 08, 2011 5:54 PM
>To: Roy S. Lamberton
>Subject: Re: [NU Sports] Buckeyes in Hot Water with NCAA (Again)?
>
>Funny.  When NFL players announce their ala mater they generally say The Ohio 
>State
>Univesity. So figured it derived from that. My late dad (today would be his  
>94th b day)
>was an OSU grad and while he rooted for them, he despised their emphasis on 
>sports at the
>expense of academics 
>Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: "Roy S. Lamberton" <rstetson at capps-assoc.com>
>Date: Tue, 8 Mar 2011 17:49:30 
>To: <hakirsch at aol.com>
>Subject: RE: [NU Sports] Buckeyes in Hot Water with NCAA (Again)?
>
>D stands for Duh - as in Duh Ohio State University, home of graduation rates 
>under 50%.
>
>Can also stand for the Homeric (Simpson) Doh as in "Doh, OSU officials claimed 
>that they
>didn't know the guy had flunked out prior to the season." Or, "doh OSU 
>basketball team
>once again had a graduation rate under 50%." (which is what spurred the original 
>
>DuhOSU
>back on Scout/Rivals)
>
>It goes hand in hand with the Evil Empire for N**** D*** or MinnySoda, or many 
>of the
>derisive names that I have used over the years when referring to opponents.
>
>I think it goes back to when I was working at Oklahoma - when we were going to 
>"Shuffle
>off the Buffaloes" one season against Colorado.
>
>Remember that the original Purple Reign Chat Board had an official Grammar 
>Policeman,
>empowered to correct grammatical and spelling errors!
>
>rsl
>
>
>
>
>
>++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
>Roy S. Lamberton - Senior Associate & Unix Guru.
>Computer Applications & Support Associates
>-------------------- Also ----------------------
>"Commissioner" Delaware American Legion Baseball
>Director Media Relations - Little League 
>  Senior League Softball World Series
>CTRCS USN/USNR Retired
>Northwestern University - Speech 1974 - 
>Chi Phi: Pi 1974, KD 1968
>Publisher Emeritus: Purple Reign (Fox Sports)
>==========  Go Cats -  Beat 'em All  ===========
>"...Then I get on my knees and pray,
>WE DON'T GET FOOLED AGAIN!" -- Pete Townsend
>================================================
>
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: hakirsch at aol.com [mailto:hakirsch at aol.com] 
>Sent: Tuesday, March 08, 2011 5:42 PM
>To: Roy S. Lamberton
>Subject: Re: [NU Sports] Buckeyes in Hot Water with NCAA (Again)?
>
>D stands for The or De ?
>Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: "Roy S. Lamberton" <rstetson at capps-assoc.com>
>Sender: nwu-sports-bounces at tssi.com
>Date: Tue, 8 Mar 2011 17:39:15 
>To: <neonrye at aol.com>; <nwu-sports at romaine.tssi.com>
>Subject: RE: [NU Sports] Buckeyes in Hot Water with NCAA (Again)?
>
>Why I still refer to them as dOSU
>
>rsl
>
>++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
>Roy S. Lamberton - Senior Associate & Unix Guru.
>Computer Applications & Support Associates
>-------------------- Also ----------------------
>"Commissioner" Delaware American Legion Baseball
>Director Media Relations - Little League 
>  Senior League Softball World Series
>CTRCS USN/USNR Retired
>Northwestern University - Speech 1974 - 
>Chi Phi: Pi 1974, KD 1968
>Publisher Emeritus: Purple Reign (Fox Sports)
>==========  Go Cats -  Beat 'em All  ===========
>"...Then I get on my knees and pray,
>WE DON'T GET FOOLED AGAIN!" -- Pete Townsend
>================================================
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: nwu-sports-bounces at tssi.com [mailto:nwu-sports-bounces at tssi.com] On Behalf 
>
>Of
>neonrye at aol.com
>Sent: Tuesday, March 08, 2011 4:56 PM
>To: nwu-sports at romaine.tssi.com
>Subject: [NU Sports] Buckeyes in Hot Water with NCAA (Again)?
>
>
>It appears that St. Tressel may have known about the violations of NCAA Rules 
>involving
>Pryor and his mates--and not told the University, as he was contractually bound 

>to do, as
>per this ESPN online report:  
>http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/news/story?id=6194133
>
>They are holding Press Conference at 7 p.m.  Stay tuned for "As The Buckeye 
>(Worm) Turns".
>
>
>Paul Levinson
>
>The
>
>
>
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