From tbng at comcast.net  Wed Mar  2 19:51:15 2011
From: tbng at comcast.net (Dennis W. Brandt)
Date: Wed Mar  2 19:51:24 2011
Subject: [NU Sports] Cat report card
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A runaway Coble, a Shurna sprained ankle, and no rebounder:  That sums up 
the Cats' season.  As for next year, there again will be no Coble and, 
barring some recruiting miracle, still no rebounder.  At least Shurna's 
ankle will heal, and Crawford and Cobb will be a year wiser.  We can always 
hope for a miracle in the tournament next week, but don't count on it, 
especially if we have to play Penn State.

Individual ratings by comparison to the league:

Michael Thompson - B+:  The dependable one, always on the floor, and the guy 
to go to at crunch time.  He will be missed next season.

John Shurna - C+:  Two words: sprained ankle.  A promising season went down 
the tubes with that injury.

Drew Crawford - C+:  A physically gifted player who improved little from his 
freshman season.  It seems he should be the slasher we've always lacked, but 
he doesn't do that often enough.  He is dumb-foul prone and a 67% foul 
shooter.  He needs to step up next season.

JerShon Cobb - C:  Physically gifted but raw, and the weight room beckons 
him to put more than 180 lbs. on his 6' 5" frame.  Hopefully he'll do a 
Shurna and come back a much improved player in his sophomore year.  He 
appears capable of growing into an impact player.

Luca Mircovic - D:  The weak link in the starting lineup.  His best games 
came mostly against teams with a weak front line.  Against everyone else, he 
was little threat to score, seldom grabbed a contended rebound, and had a 
grand total of 17 blocked shots in 28 games.

Davide Curletti - C:  Started to offer some quality moments off the bench 
during the latter portion of the season but overall did not make much 
impact.

Alex Marcotulio - D:  Made little impact during the Big Ten season.  His 
per-game minutes were up from last season, but all of his shooting 
percentages were down.

Power forward - F:  Unnamed because we have none and haven't had one for a 
very, very long time.

Rest of bench - F:  Little or no help was found there.

Coaching - D+:  The Carmody coaching machine has stripped a gear. 
Recruiting the big man remains an illusive goal.  He otherwise has improved 
the talent level enough to post a good record in a weak non-conference 
schedule and defeat the less-than-stellar Big Ten teams (except Penn State), 
but we have to cry, "Oh, no!" because winning in the Big Ten still eludes 
Mister Bill.  Once more NU was the worst rebounding team in the Big Ten, the 
major reason they fail year in and year out.  If the trey isn't falling, 
they are cooked, and the trey percentages were down across the board this 
season.  Is it time for a coaching change, or do we give him more time 
because he runs a clean program?  I don't know.  No one else has had any 
coaching success at Northwestern either.  In any event, he will almost 
certainly be back next season.  An injury and a foolish defection hurt this 
season, but sooner or later you run out of excuses.  "Expect victory" hasn't 
yet reached into Welsh-Ryan.



From hakirsch at aol.com  Wed Mar  2 19:57:40 2011
From: hakirsch at aol.com (hakirsch@aol.com)
Date: Wed Mar  2 20:00:49 2011
Subject: [NU Sports] Cat report card
In-Reply-To: <7134AC6F17944780B3104E65FB1C72AD@dennismachine>
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Unfortunately I agree with Dennis on all key points he raises. These don't bode well for our near term prospects

Harry
Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry

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From: "Dennis W. Brandt" <tbng@comcast.net>
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Date: Wed, 2 Mar 2011 20:51:15 
To: <nwu-sports@tssi.com>
Subject: [NU Sports] Cat report card

A runaway Coble, a Shurna sprained ankle, and no rebounder:  That sums up 
the Cats' season.  As for next year, there again will be no Coble and, 
barring some recruiting miracle, still no rebounder.  At least Shurna's 
ankle will heal, and Crawford and Cobb will be a year wiser.  We can always 
hope for a miracle in the tournament next week, but don't count on it, 
especially if we have to play Penn State.

Individual ratings by comparison to the league:

Michael Thompson - B+:  The dependable one, always on the floor, and the guy 
to go to at crunch time.  He will be missed next season.

John Shurna - C+:  Two words: sprained ankle.  A promising season went down 
the tubes with that injury.

Drew Crawford - C+:  A physically gifted player who improved little from his 
freshman season.  It seems he should be the slasher we've always lacked, but 
he doesn't do that often enough.  He is dumb-foul prone and a 67% foul 
shooter.  He needs to step up next season.

JerShon Cobb - C:  Physically gifted but raw, and the weight room beckons 
him to put more than 180 lbs. on his 6' 5" frame.  Hopefully he'll do a 
Shurna and come back a much improved player in his sophomore year.  He 
appears capable of growing into an impact player.

Luca Mircovic - D:  The weak link in the starting lineup.  His best games 
came mostly against teams with a weak front line.  Against everyone else, he 
was little threat to score, seldom grabbed a contended rebound, and had a 
grand total of 17 blocked shots in 28 games.

Davide Curletti - C:  Started to offer some quality moments off the bench 
during the latter portion of the season but overall did not make much 
impact.

Alex Marcotulio - D:  Made little impact during the Big Ten season.  His 
per-game minutes were up from last season, but all of his shooting 
percentages were down.

Power forward - F:  Unnamed because we have none and haven't had one for a 
very, very long time.

Rest of bench - F:  Little or no help was found there.

Coaching - D+:  The Carmody coaching machine has stripped a gear. 
Recruiting the big man remains an illusive goal.  He otherwise has improved 
the talent level enough to post a good record in a weak non-conference 
schedule and defeat the less-than-stellar Big Ten teams (except Penn State), 
but we have to cry, "Oh, no!" because winning in the Big Ten still eludes 
Mister Bill.  Once more NU was the worst rebounding team in the Big Ten, the 
major reason they fail year in and year out.  If the trey isn't falling, 
they are cooked, and the trey percentages were down across the board this 
season.  Is it time for a coaching change, or do we give him more time 
because he runs a clean program?  I don't know.  No one else has had any 
coaching success at Northwestern either.  In any event, he will almost 
certainly be back next season.  An injury and a foolish defection hurt this 
season, but sooner or later you run out of excuses.  "Expect victory" hasn't 
yet reached into Welsh-Ryan.



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From Willie.Weinbaum at espn.com  Wed Mar  2 21:35:16 2011
From: Willie.Weinbaum at espn.com (Weinbaum, Willie)
Date: Wed Mar  2 21:36:34 2011
Subject: [NU Sports] Cat report card
In-Reply-To: <7134AC6F17944780B3104E65FB1C72AD@dennismachine>
Message-ID: <1F89BB2CE7A5B94D969618E8CC769CC36874B19A@XCHGBRS4.corp.espn.pvt>

Great and deserved sendoff tonight for Juice as he and Marcotulio led the comeback from down 10 to win by 11, with a big game from Curletti and some key points from Shurna.

>From Blackberry - please excuse typos

W. Weinbaum
Producer
212-916-9864 (24-hour voicemail)
willie.weinbaum@espn.com

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Sent: Wed Mar 02 20:51:15 2011
Subject: [NU Sports] Cat report card

A runaway Coble, a Shurna sprained ankle, and no rebounder:  That sums up
the Cats' season.  As for next year, there again will be no Coble and,
barring some recruiting miracle, still no rebounder.  At least Shurna's
ankle will heal, and Crawford and Cobb will be a year wiser.  We can always
hope for a miracle in the tournament next week, but don't count on it,
especially if we have to play Penn State.

Individual ratings by comparison to the league:

Michael Thompson - B+:  The dependable one, always on the floor, and the guy
to go to at crunch time.  He will be missed next season.

John Shurna - C+:  Two words: sprained ankle.  A promising season went down
the tubes with that injury.

Drew Crawford - C+:  A physically gifted player who improved little from his
freshman season.  It seems he should be the slasher we've always lacked, but
he doesn't do that often enough.  He is dumb-foul prone and a 67% foul
shooter.  He needs to step up next season.

JerShon Cobb - C:  Physically gifted but raw, and the weight room beckons
him to put more than 180 lbs. on his 6' 5" frame.  Hopefully he'll do a
Shurna and come back a much improved player in his sophomore year.  He
appears capable of growing into an impact player.

Luca Mircovic - D:  The weak link in the starting lineup.  His best games
came mostly against teams with a weak front line.  Against everyone else, he
was little threat to score, seldom grabbed a contended rebound, and had a
grand total of 17 blocked shots in 28 games.

Davide Curletti - C:  Started to offer some quality moments off the bench
during the latter portion of the season but overall did not make much
impact.

Alex Marcotulio - D:  Made little impact during the Big Ten season.  His
per-game minutes were up from last season, but all of his shooting
percentages were down.

Power forward - F:  Unnamed because we have none and haven't had one for a
very, very long time.

Rest of bench - F:  Little or no help was found there.

Coaching - D+:  The Carmody coaching machine has stripped a gear.
Recruiting the big man remains an illusive goal.  He otherwise has improved
the talent level enough to post a good record in a weak non-conference
schedule and defeat the less-than-stellar Big Ten teams (except Penn State),
but we have to cry, "Oh, no!" because winning in the Big Ten still eludes
Mister Bill.  Once more NU was the worst rebounding team in the Big Ten, the
major reason they fail year in and year out.  If the trey isn't falling,
they are cooked, and the trey percentages were down across the board this
season.  Is it time for a coaching change, or do we give him more time
because he runs a clean program?  I don't know.  No one else has had any
coaching success at Northwestern either.  In any event, he will almost
certainly be back next season.  An injury and a foolish defection hurt this
season, but sooner or later you run out of excuses.  "Expect victory" hasn't
yet reached into Welsh-Ryan.



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From rstetson at capps-assoc.com  Thu Mar  3 08:13:27 2011
From: rstetson at capps-assoc.com (Roy S. Lamberton)
Date: Thu Mar  3 08:13:23 2011
Subject: [NU Sports] Final Home Game for Juice
Message-ID: <002101cbd9ad$2ad20e50$80762af0$@com>

Lindsey Wilhite:
http://blogs.dailyherald.com/node/5288


++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
Roy S. Lamberton - Senior Associate & Unix Guru.
Computer Applications & Support Associates
-------------------- Also ----------------------
"Commissioner" Delaware American Legion Baseball
Director Media Relations - Little League 
  Senior League Softball World Series
CTRCS USN/USNR Retired
Northwestern University - Speech 1974 - 
Chi Phi: Pi 1974, KD 1968
Publisher Emeritus: Purple Reign (Fox Sports)
==========  Go Cats -? Beat 'em All  ===========
"...Then I get on my knees and pray,
WE DON'T GET FOOLED AGAIN!" -- Pete Townsend
================================================




From Willie.Weinbaum at espn.com  Thu Mar  3 13:09:52 2011
From: Willie.Weinbaum at espn.com (Weinbaum, Willie)
Date: Thu Mar  3 13:11:13 2011
Subject: [NU Sports] FW: NU in the news, not exactly the sports page
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http://www.nypost.com/p/news/national/northwestern_university_opens_investigation_1DlEp9B3rHGFIWrvSVbb7I



From Jeff.Beamsley at covisint.com  Thu Mar  3 13:12:50 2011
From: Jeff.Beamsley at covisint.com (Beamsley, Jeff)
Date: Thu Mar  3 13:13:04 2011
Subject: [NU Sports] FW: NU in the news, not exactly the sports page
In-Reply-To: <1F89BB2CE7A5B94D969618E8CC769CC36926434F@XCHGBRS4.corp.espn.pvt>
References: <001701cbd0a5$1d238740$576a95c0$@com><8CD9F350B0317A4-1A9C-41FCF@Webmail-m113.sysops.aol.com><001e01cbd17e$53751e60$fa5f5b20$@com><684270847-1298756955-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-978247775-@bda2184.bisx.prod.on.blackberry><AANLkTi=jmkygVrEQSNQU_UYx=zUeY26mP8PGeJ2cKV=w@mail.gmail.com><804302.96901.qm@web33103.mail.mud.yahoo.com><004601cbd7bd$9dd25870$d9770950$@com><7134AC6F17944780B3104E65FB1C72AD@dennismachine>
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Should help recruiting!

Jeff


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Sent: Thursday, March 03, 2011 2:10 PM
To: nwu-sports@tssi.com
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http://www.nypost.com/p/news/national/northwestern_university_opens_inve
stigation_1DlEp9B3rHGFIWrvSVbb7I



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From tbng at comcast.net  Thu Mar  3 13:23:03 2011
From: tbng at comcast.net (Dennis W. Brandt)
Date: Thu Mar  3 13:23:25 2011
Subject: [NU Sports] FW: NU in the news, not exactly the sports page
References: <001701cbd0a5$1d238740$576a95c0$@com><8CD9F350B0317A4-1A9C-41FCF@Webmail-m113.sysops.aol.com><001e01cbd17e$53751e60$fa5f5b20$@com><684270847-1298756955-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-978247775-@bda2184.bisx.prod.on.blackberry><AANLkTi=jmkygVrEQSNQU_UYx=zUeY26mP8PGeJ2cKV=w@mail.gmail.com><804302.96901.qm@web33103.mail.mud.yahoo.com><004601cbd7bd$9dd25870$d9770950$@com><7134AC6F17944780B3104E65FB1C72AD@dennismachine><1F89BB2CE7A5B94D969618E8CC769CC36926434F@XCHGBRS4.corp.espn.pvt>
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Message-ID: <19E802D7FE7F4C809B796069631356F3@dennismachine>

Spare the rod, spoil the student.

From Jeff.Beamsley at covisint.com  Thu Mar  3 13:26:23 2011
From: Jeff.Beamsley at covisint.com (Beamsley, Jeff)
Date: Thu Mar  3 13:26:26 2011
Subject: [NU Sports] FW: NU in the news, not exactly the sports page
In-Reply-To: <19E802D7FE7F4C809B796069631356F3@dennismachine>
References: <001701cbd0a5$1d238740$576a95c0$@com><8CD9F350B0317A4-1A9C-41FCF@Webmail-m113.sysops.aol.com><001e01cbd17e$53751e60$fa5f5b20$@com><684270847-1298756955-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-978247775-@bda2184.bisx.prod.on.blackberry><AANLkTi=jmkygVrEQSNQU_UYx=zUeY26mP8PGeJ2cKV=w@mail.gmail.com><804302.96901.qm@web33103.mail.mud.yahoo.com><004601cbd7bd$9dd25870$d9770950$@com><7134AC6F17944780B3104E65FB1C72AD@dennismachine><1F89BB2CE7A5B94D969618E8CC769CC36926434F@XCHGBRS4.corp.espn.pvt><FA7822545C26F244823CA5D312ABBDEA06BA3EC1@nasa-dtw-ex006.nasa.cpwr.corp>
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Actually this might be the opportunity to recruit that big guy that Denis has been dreaming about.

Jeff


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From: nwu-sports-bounces@tssi.com [mailto:nwu-sports-bounces@tssi.com] On Behalf Of Dennis W. Brandt
Sent: Thursday, March 03, 2011 2:23 PM
To: nwu-sports@tssi.com
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Spare the rod, spoil the student.

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From tbng at comcast.net  Thu Mar  3 14:44:28 2011
From: tbng at comcast.net (Dennis W. Brandt)
Date: Thu Mar  3 14:44:39 2011
Subject: [NU Sports] FW: NU in the news, not exactly the sports page
References: <001701cbd0a5$1d238740$576a95c0$@com><8CD9F350B0317A4-1A9C-41FCF@Webmail-m113.sysops.aol.com><001e01cbd17e$53751e60$fa5f5b20$@com><684270847-1298756955-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-978247775-@bda2184.bisx.prod.on.blackberry><AANLkTi=jmkygVrEQSNQU_UYx=zUeY26mP8PGeJ2cKV=w@mail.gmail.com><804302.96901.qm@web33103.mail.mud.yahoo.com><004601cbd7bd$9dd25870$d9770950$@com><7134AC6F17944780B3104E65FB1C72AD@dennismachine><1F89BB2CE7A5B94D969618E8CC769CC36926434F@XCHGBRS4.corp.espn.pvt><FA7822545C26F244823CA5D312ABBDEA06BA3EC1@nasa-dtw-ex006.nasa.cpwr.corp>
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<Actually this might be the opportunity to recruit that big guy that Denis 
has been dreaming about.

I wish to dispel all rumors that I have been dreaming of a "big guy" - 
unless he can rebound and block shots. 


From rstetson at capps-assoc.com  Thu Mar  3 17:03:53 2011
From: rstetson at capps-assoc.com (Roy S. Lamberton)
Date: Thu Mar  3 17:04:00 2011
Subject: [NU Sports] FW: NU in the news, not exactly the sports page
In-Reply-To: <9E91621D873C420CAE6A99F296DCC0E2@dennismachine>
References: <001701cbd0a5$1d238740$576a95c0$@com><8CD9F350B0317A4-1A9C-41FCF@Webmail-m113.sysops.aol.com><001e01cbd17e$53751e60$fa5f5b20$@com><684270847-1298756955-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-978247775-@bda2184.bisx.prod.on.blackberry><AANLkTi=jmkygVrEQSNQU_UYx=zUeY26mP8PGeJ2cKV=w@mail.gmail.com><804302.96901.qm@web33103.mail.mud.yahoo.com><004601cbd7bd$9dd25870$d9770950$@com><7134AC6F17944780B3104E65FB1C72AD@dennismachine><1F89BB2CE7A5B94D969618E8CC769CC36926434F@XCHGBRS4.corp.espn.pvt><FA7822545C26F244823CA5D312ABBDEA06BA3EC1@nasa-dtw-ex006.nasa.cpwr.corp>	<19E802D7FE7F4C809B796069631356F3@dennismachine>	<FA7822545C26F244823CA5D312ABBDEA06BA3ECA@nasa-dtw-ex006.nasa.cpwr.corp>
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Heck, we did that stuff all the time over on Greek Row. They were called "smokers" - remember?

Oh yeah, the PC police shut them down, didn't they.

rsl

++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
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Computer Applications & Support Associates
-------------------- Also ----------------------
"Commissioner" Delaware American Legion Baseball
Director Media Relations - Little League 
  Senior League Softball World Series
CTRCS USN/USNR Retired
Northwestern University - Speech 1974 - 
Chi Phi: Pi 1974, KD 1968
Publisher Emeritus: Purple Reign (Fox Sports)
==========  Go Cats -  Beat 'em All  ===========
"...Then I get on my knees and pray,
WE DON'T GET FOOLED AGAIN!" -- Pete Townsend
================================================


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Sent: Thursday, March 03, 2011 3:44 PM
To: nwu-sports@tssi.com
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<Actually this might be the opportunity to recruit that big guy that Denis 
has been dreaming about.

I wish to dispel all rumors that I have been dreaming of a "big guy" - 
unless he can rebound and block shots. 


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From Willie.Weinbaum at espn.com  Thu Mar  3 19:46:08 2011
From: Willie.Weinbaum at espn.com (Weinbaum, Willie)
Date: Thu Mar  3 19:47:28 2011
Subject: [NU Sports] Cats win in Big Ten tourney
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NU women just beat Minn in hoops, in Round One!

From MHRJGScott at aol.com  Thu Mar  3 20:05:20 2011
From: MHRJGScott at aol.com (MHRJGScott@aol.com)
Date: Thu Mar  3 20:05:28 2011
Subject: [NU Sports] FW: NU in the news, not exactly the sports page
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I was put off by Morty first supporting academic freedom and then after  
some puritanical backlash expressing his displeasure at this event. Although I 
 personally think sex is better when it is somehow forbidden, maybe  
shining  daylight on eroticism leads to some insight for these  students.
From tbng at comcast.net  Fri Mar  4 00:25:56 2011
From: tbng at comcast.net (Dennis W. Brandt)
Date: Fri Mar  4 00:26:20 2011
Subject: [NU Sports] FW: NU in the news, not exactly the sports page
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>I was put off by Morty first supporting academic freedom and then after
> some puritanical backlash expressing his displeasure at this event. 
> Although I
> personally think sex is better when it is somehow forbidden, maybe
> shining  daylight on eroticism leads to some insight for these  students.

A live exhibition of a woman masturbating with a dildo is "academic 
freedom?"  There are lots of stores that will rent films showing that. 
It'll cost parents a lot less than $40k a year. 


From airsnod at aol.com  Fri Mar  4 03:08:32 2011
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Date: Fri Mar  4 03:08:35 2011
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That may be the final nail in (Minnesota head coach) Pam Burton's coffin.

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NU women just beat Minn in hoops, in Round One!

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Borton* (damn auto-correct)

Sent from my HTC on the Now Network from Sprint!

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That may be the final nail in (Minnesota head coach) Pam Burton's coffin.

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NU women just beat Minn in hoops, in Round One!

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From Willie.Weinbaum at espn.com  Sat Mar  5 14:30:23 2011
From: Willie.Weinbaum at espn.com (Weinbaum, Willie)
Date: Sat Mar  5 14:31:42 2011
Subject: [NU Sports] Excellent new piece by fellow alum Alan Abrahamson on
 '36 Winter Olys
Message-ID: <1F89BB2CE7A5B94D969618E8CC769CC36874B1DC@XCHGBRS4.corp.espn.pvt>

http://3wiresports.com/2011/03/02/the-back-story-of-the-1936-winter-games/

>From Blackberry - please excuse typos

W. Weinbaum
Producer
212-916-9864 (24-hour voicemail)
willie.weinbaum@espn.com

From neonrye at aol.com  Tue Mar  8 15:56:07 2011
From: neonrye at aol.com (neonrye@aol.com)
Date: Tue Mar  8 15:56:27 2011
Subject: [NU Sports] Buckeyes in Hot Water with NCAA (Again)?
Message-ID: <8CDABF2C3595F08-23FC-AA24@webmail-d082.sysops.aol.com>


It appears that St. Tressel may have known about the violations of NCAA Rules involving Pryor and his mates--and not told the University, as he was contractually bound to do, as per this ESPN online report:  http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/news/story?id=6194133

They are holding Press Conference at 7 p.m.  Stay tuned for "As The Buckeye (Worm) Turns".  

Paul Levinson

The



From rstetson at capps-assoc.com  Tue Mar  8 16:39:15 2011
From: rstetson at capps-assoc.com (Roy S. Lamberton)
Date: Tue Mar  8 16:39:10 2011
Subject: [NU Sports] Buckeyes in Hot Water with NCAA (Again)?
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Why I still refer to them as dOSU

rsl

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It appears that St. Tressel may have known about the violations of NCAA Rules involving
Pryor and his mates--and not told the University, as he was contractually bound to do, as
per this ESPN online report:  http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/news/story?id=6194133

They are holding Press Conference at 7 p.m.  Stay tuned for "As The Buckeye (Worm) Turns".


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From eschoeman at sbcglobal.net  Tue Mar  8 16:39:06 2011
From: eschoeman at sbcglobal.net (Evans Schoeman)
Date: Tue Mar  8 16:39:12 2011
Subject: [NU Sports] Buckeyes in Hot Water with NCAA (Again)?
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Unless the report about Tressel's knowledge is totally untrue, it's hard to see 
how Tressel can survive.? His contract clearly states that he must notify the 
university as soon as he has knowledge of any violations ("any" is apparently 
underlined in the contract).

It will be interesting to see how tOSU handles this.




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To: nwu-sports@romaine.tssi.com
Sent: Tue, March 8, 2011 3:56:07 PM
Subject: [NU Sports] Buckeyes in Hot Water with NCAA (Again)?


It appears that St. Tressel may have known about the violations of NCAA Rules 
involving Pryor and his mates--and not told the University, as he was 
contractually bound to do, as per this ESPN online report:? 
http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/news/story?id=6194133

They are holding Press Conference at 7 p.m.? Stay tuned for "As The Buckeye 
(Worm) Turns".? 


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From rstetson at capps-assoc.com  Tue Mar  8 16:56:51 2011
From: rstetson at capps-assoc.com (Roy S. Lamberton)
Date: Tue Mar  8 16:56:33 2011
Subject: [NU Sports] I'm surprised...
Message-ID: <003801cbdde4$1d3055a0$579100e0$@com>

That nobody has pointed out that Towson Head Coach Pat Kennedy has resigned from the
Baltimore school.

Kennedy has a few ties to NU - including a son who is presently on the staff of the
Wildcat roundball team

http://www.explorebaltimorecounty.com/news/111885/kennedy-after-seven-seasons-towson/

>From the article:
Kennedy leaves after his 31st season as a Division I head coach, finishing ? at least for
now ? a distinguished career in which he remains among the Top 25 active winningest
Division I coaches with 488 career victories while at Iona College, Florida State
University, De Paul University, the University of Montana and Towson.

Not to stir the pot...

rsl

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  Senior League Softball World Series
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From Jeff.Beamsley at covisint.com  Tue Mar  8 18:18:42 2011
From: Jeff.Beamsley at covisint.com (Beamsley, Jeff)
Date: Tue Mar  8 18:19:12 2011
Subject: [NU Sports] Buckeyes in Hot Water with NCAA (Again)?
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This is BS. He is not this naive. He knew exactly what he was doing. My sense is that he is taking the fall for at least the AD. This REALLY smells bad. 

Jeff 

Sent from my iPhone

On Mar 8, 2011, at 5:39 PM, "Evans Schoeman" <eschoeman@sbcglobal.net> wrote:

> Unless the report about Tressel's knowledge is totally untrue, it's hard to see 
> how Tressel can survive.  His contract clearly states that he must notify the 
> university as soon as he has knowledge of any violations ("any" is apparently 
> underlined in the contract).
> 
> It will be interesting to see how tOSU handles this.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
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> To: nwu-sports@romaine.tssi.com
> Sent: Tue, March 8, 2011 3:56:07 PM
> Subject: [NU Sports] Buckeyes in Hot Water with NCAA (Again)?
> 
> 
> It appears that St. Tressel may have known about the violations of NCAA Rules 
> involving Pryor and his mates--and not told the University, as he was 
> contractually bound to do, as per this ESPN online report:  
> http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/news/story?id=6194133
> 
> They are holding Press Conference at 7 p.m.  Stay tuned for "As The Buckeye 
> (Worm) Turns".  
> 
> 
> Paul Levinson
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From eschoeman at sbcglobal.net  Tue Mar  8 18:37:00 2011
From: eschoeman at sbcglobal.net (Evans Schoeman)
Date: Tue Mar  8 18:37:04 2011
Subject: [NU Sports] Buckeyes in Hot Water with NCAA (Again)?
In-Reply-To: <7BF24E18-C7C5-47FB-879B-D2E02101F572@covisint.com>
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I watched ESPN News, which included part of the press conference.? Maybe I'm 
tired, but I found Tressel's comments to be incomprehensible.? No idea what he 
was talking about.

Gene Smith came across as defiant, although he took pains to thank everyone in 
the universe.? I loved it when he referred to Tressel's "body of work".? 
Translation:? he wins games.

To be honest, I have always liked Tressel and think that he's generally a 
stand-up guy, so I'm disappointed in this.? I find the "self reporting" penalty 
of a two game suspension to be a weak slap on the wrist and a disgrace.? I think 
that the NCAA will be under some pressure to expand this.

I think that Gene Smith should take some heat for the way that he is managing 
this.? He's trying to sound like a good, law-abiding AD, while his primary 
objective is to cover his and tOSU's butt.? You're right:? it does smell bad.






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From: "Beamsley, Jeff" <Jeff.Beamsley@covisint.com>
To: Evans Schoeman <eschoeman@sbcglobal.net>
Cc: neonrye@aol.com; nwu-sports@romaine.tssi.com
Sent: Tue, March 8, 2011 6:18:42 PM
Subject: Re: [NU Sports] Buckeyes in Hot Water with NCAA (Again)?

This is BS. He is not this naive. He knew exactly what he was doing. My sense is 
that he is taking the fall for at least the AD. This REALLY smells bad. 


Jeff 

Sent from my iPhone

On Mar 8, 2011, at 5:39 PM, "Evans Schoeman" <eschoeman@sbcglobal.net> wrote:

> Unless the report about Tressel's knowledge is totally untrue, it's hard to see 
>
> how Tressel can survive.? His contract clearly states that he must notify the 
> university as soon as he has knowledge of any violations ("any" is apparently 
> underlined in the contract).
> 
> It will be interesting to see how tOSU handles this.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
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then destroy it.

> From: "neonrye@aol.com" <neonrye@aol.com>
> To: nwu-sports@romaine.tssi.com
> Sent: Tue, March 8, 2011 3:56:07 PM
> Subject: [NU Sports] Buckeyes in Hot Water with NCAA (Again)?
> 
> 
> It appears that St. Tressel may have known about the violations of NCAA Rules 
> involving Pryor and his mates--and not told the University, as he was 
> contractually bound to do, as per this ESPN online report:? 
> http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/news/story?id=6194133
> 
> They are holding Press Conference at 7 p.m.? Stay tuned for "As The Buckeye 
> (Worm) Turns".? 
> 
> 
> Paul Levinson
> 
> The
> 
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From wildelk2 at aol.com  Tue Mar  8 21:10:48 2011
From: wildelk2 at aol.com (wildelk2@aol.com)
Date: Tue Mar  8 21:11:04 2011
Subject: [NU Sports] I'm surprised...
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   Not seeing it Roy.  Kennedy didn't turn DePaul and Towson into basketball powers, although I remember he had some good years at DePaul.  I say give Dollar Bill one more year; his mulligans being Coble leaving and Shurna's ankle.  As far as someone who can get rebounds and pound the middle, maybe we can hope that the light bulb went on with Curletti and that progress will continue.   Funny how they look like a Big Ten team when we get help at center.
  GO CATS, shock the world! If that doesn't work, beating Minnesota and going deep in the NIT will have to do.  


  GO CATS!!    Eric






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Sent: Tue, Mar 8, 2011 12:56 pm
Subject: [NU Sports] I'm surprised...


That nobody has pointed out that Towson Head Coach Pat Kennedy has resigned from 
the
Baltimore school.

Kennedy has a few ties to NU - including a son who is presently on the staff of 
the
Wildcat roundball team

http://www.explorebaltimorecounty.com/news/111885/kennedy-after-seven-seasons-towson/

>From the article:
Kennedy leaves after his 31st season as a Division I head coach, finishing ? at 
least for
now ? a distinguished career in which he remains among the Top 25 active 
winningest
Division I coaches with 488 career victories while at Iona College, Florida 
State
University, De Paul University, the University of Montana and Towson.

Not to stir the pot...

rsl

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From nolan at romaine.tssi.com  Tue Mar  8 21:27:31 2011
From: nolan at romaine.tssi.com (Mike Nolan)
Date: Tue Mar  8 21:27:32 2011
Subject: [NU Sports] Buckeyes in Hot Water with NCAA (Again)?
In-Reply-To: <451066.23120.qm@web83914.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> from "Evans
	Schoeman" at Mar 08, 2011 02:39:06 PM
Message-ID: <201103090327.p293RVvE015855@romaine.tssi.com>

> Unless the report about Tressel's knowledge is totally untrue, it's hard to see 
> how Tressel can survive.? His contract clearly states that he must notify the 
> university as soon as he has knowledge of any violations ("any" is apparently 
> underlined in the contract).

Unless the NCAA comes down on OSU like a ton of bricks (possible but IMHO not 
likely), there's no way Tressel loses his job over this.  Not a value judgement,
just an assessment of reality.
--
Mike Nolan

From MHRJGScott at aol.com  Tue Mar  8 21:42:27 2011
From: MHRJGScott at aol.com (MHRJGScott@aol.com)
Date: Tue Mar  8 21:42:38 2011
Subject: [NU Sports] Buckeyes in Hot Water with NCAA (Again)?
Message-ID: <8b946.4f157b44.3aa85123@aol.com>

slap, ouch, that hurt daddy
2 games, 2 bucks, give me a break
From rstetson at capps-assoc.com  Tue Mar  8 21:51:23 2011
From: rstetson at capps-assoc.com (Roy S. Lamberton)
Date: Tue Mar  8 21:51:04 2011
Subject: [NU Sports] Buckeyes in Hot Water with NCAA (Again)?
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I'm adding the full list to this thread since we're talking about things that partially
originated here....

I just remember that the AD while I was at NU (72-74) 

1. Hired Tex Winter to coach baseketball
2. Put in the Tartan Turf field at Dyche.

In any case, when I was first doing Purple Reign for then Rivals, a few of our posters
both here and on the chat rooms there started mocking The Ohio State University by
abbreviating the name tOSU.

After a year or so, the NCAA started making a lot of noise about graduation rates, and
published a rather damning document Football grad rate at about 40% and their Baseketball
rate at under 20%.

I remember posting a commentary to the effect that until tOSU got those numbers up above
50%, I would call them d (for duh) OSU instead. It caught on among a few readers - I think
there are a couple of guys who still use it. 

I was on the Bucknuts radio show talking about NU football one time, and my appearance was
questioned by some readers, stating that I used dOSU in my commentaries. Now that I'm not
writing much for sports, I've lost track of the grad rates at dOSU - are they any better?

rsl

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Computer Applications & Support Associates
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Director Media Relations - Little League 
  Senior League Softball World Series
CTRCS USN/USNR Retired
Northwestern University - Speech 1974 - 
Chi Phi: Pi 1974, KD 1968
Publisher Emeritus: Purple Reign (Fox Sports)
==========  Go Cats -? Beat 'em All  ===========
"...Then I get on my knees and pray,
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-----Original Message-----
From: hakirsch@aol.com [mailto:hakirsch@aol.com] 
Sent: Tuesday, March 08, 2011 7:41 PM
To: Roy S. Lamberton
Subject: Re: [NU Sports] Buckeyes in Hot Water with NCAA (Again)?

Oh and Tippy Dye who was the AD at NU when you were there and was the QB at OSU when my
dad went there
Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry

-----Original Message-----
From: "Roy S. Lamberton" <rstetson@capps-assoc.com>
Date: Tue, 8 Mar 2011 19:34:05 
To: <hakirsch@aol.com>
Subject: RE: [NU Sports] Buckeyes in Hot Water with NCAA (Again)?

Yes, dOSU actually comes from some NU alums referring to them as tOSU in posts.

I changed the "t" to "d" when one of the NCAA reports on graduation came out showing their
lack of graduation prowess. I used to get roundly boiled by the dOSU alums on the chat
boards because I did that.

Oh well, old news now that St. Tressel is about to be skewered.


rsl



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Computer Applications & Support Associates
-------------------- Also ----------------------
"Commissioner" Delaware American Legion Baseball
Director Media Relations - Little League 
  Senior League Softball World Series
CTRCS USN/USNR Retired
Northwestern University - Speech 1974 - 
Chi Phi: Pi 1974, KD 1968
Publisher Emeritus: Purple Reign (Fox Sports)
==========  Go Cats -? Beat 'em All  ===========
"...Then I get on my knees and pray,
WE DON'T GET FOOLED AGAIN!" -- Pete Townsend
================================================


-----Original Message-----
From: hakirsch@aol.com [mailto:hakirsch@aol.com] 
Sent: Tuesday, March 08, 2011 5:54 PM
To: Roy S. Lamberton
Subject: Re: [NU Sports] Buckeyes in Hot Water with NCAA (Again)?

Funny.  When NFL players announce their ala mater they generally say The Ohio State
Univesity. So figured it derived from that. My late dad (today would be his  94th b day)
was an OSU grad and while he rooted for them, he despised their emphasis on sports at the
expense of academics 
Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry

-----Original Message-----
From: "Roy S. Lamberton" <rstetson@capps-assoc.com>
Date: Tue, 8 Mar 2011 17:49:30 
To: <hakirsch@aol.com>
Subject: RE: [NU Sports] Buckeyes in Hot Water with NCAA (Again)?

D stands for Duh - as in Duh Ohio State University, home of graduation rates under 50%.

Can also stand for the Homeric (Simpson) Doh as in "Doh, OSU officials claimed that they
didn't know the guy had flunked out prior to the season." Or, "doh OSU basketball team
once again had a graduation rate under 50%." (which is what spurred the original DuhOSU
back on Scout/Rivals)

It goes hand in hand with the Evil Empire for N**** D*** or MinnySoda, or many of the
derisive names that I have used over the years when referring to opponents.

I think it goes back to when I was working at Oklahoma - when we were going to "Shuffle
off the Buffaloes" one season against Colorado.

Remember that the original Purple Reign Chat Board had an official Grammar Policeman,
empowered to correct grammatical and spelling errors!

rsl





++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
Roy S. Lamberton - Senior Associate & Unix Guru.
Computer Applications & Support Associates
-------------------- Also ----------------------
"Commissioner" Delaware American Legion Baseball
Director Media Relations - Little League 
  Senior League Softball World Series
CTRCS USN/USNR Retired
Northwestern University - Speech 1974 - 
Chi Phi: Pi 1974, KD 1968
Publisher Emeritus: Purple Reign (Fox Sports)
==========  Go Cats -? Beat 'em All  ===========
"...Then I get on my knees and pray,
WE DON'T GET FOOLED AGAIN!" -- Pete Townsend
================================================


-----Original Message-----
From: hakirsch@aol.com [mailto:hakirsch@aol.com] 
Sent: Tuesday, March 08, 2011 5:42 PM
To: Roy S. Lamberton
Subject: Re: [NU Sports] Buckeyes in Hot Water with NCAA (Again)?

D stands for The or De ?
Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry

-----Original Message-----
From: "Roy S. Lamberton" <rstetson@capps-assoc.com>
Sender: nwu-sports-bounces@tssi.com
Date: Tue, 8 Mar 2011 17:39:15 
To: <neonrye@aol.com>; <nwu-sports@romaine.tssi.com>
Subject: RE: [NU Sports] Buckeyes in Hot Water with NCAA (Again)?

Why I still refer to them as dOSU

rsl

++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
Roy S. Lamberton - Senior Associate & Unix Guru.
Computer Applications & Support Associates
-------------------- Also ----------------------
"Commissioner" Delaware American Legion Baseball
Director Media Relations - Little League 
  Senior League Softball World Series
CTRCS USN/USNR Retired
Northwestern University - Speech 1974 - 
Chi Phi: Pi 1974, KD 1968
Publisher Emeritus: Purple Reign (Fox Sports)
==========  Go Cats -? Beat 'em All  ===========
"...Then I get on my knees and pray,
WE DON'T GET FOOLED AGAIN!" -- Pete Townsend
================================================

-----Original Message-----
From: nwu-sports-bounces@tssi.com [mailto:nwu-sports-bounces@tssi.com] On Behalf Of
neonrye@aol.com
Sent: Tuesday, March 08, 2011 4:56 PM
To: nwu-sports@romaine.tssi.com
Subject: [NU Sports] Buckeyes in Hot Water with NCAA (Again)?


It appears that St. Tressel may have known about the violations of NCAA Rules involving
Pryor and his mates--and not told the University, as he was contractually bound to do, as
per this ESPN online report:  http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/news/story?id=6194133

They are holding Press Conference at 7 p.m.  Stay tuned for "As The Buckeye (Worm) Turns".


Paul Levinson

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From hakirsch at aol.com  Tue Mar  8 21:53:15 2011
From: hakirsch at aol.com (hakirsch@aol.com)
Date: Tue Mar  8 21:53:25 2011
Subject: [NU Sports] Buckeyes in Hot Water with NCAA (Again)?
Message-ID: <1131690607-1299642799-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-508821767-@bda2184.bisx.prod.on.blackberry>

I think mike is spot on.  Unless pressure comes from the NCAA, which is unlikely for as big a name as Tresell
,he aint going anywhere.  Sorry but the rules are applied differently for different people and different schools 

Harry
------Original Message------
From: Mike Nolan
Sender: nwu-sports-bounces@tssi.com
To: Evans Schoeman
Cc: nwu-sports@romaine.tssi.com
Cc: neonrye@aol.com
Subject: Re: [NU Sports] Buckeyes in Hot Water with NCAA (Again)?
Sent: Mar 8, 2011 7:27 PM

> Unless the report about Tressel's knowledge is totally untrue, it's hard to see 
> how Tressel can survive.? His contract clearly states that he must notify the 
> university as soon as he has knowledge of any violations ("any" is apparently 
> underlined in the contract).

Unless the NCAA comes down on OSU like a ton of bricks (possible but IMHO not 
likely), there's no way Tressel loses his job over this.  Not a value judgement,
just an assessment of reality.
--
Mike Nolan

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From hakirsch at aol.com  Tue Mar  8 21:54:37 2011
From: hakirsch at aol.com (hakirsch@aol.com)
Date: Tue Mar  8 21:56:14 2011
Subject: [NU Sports] Buckeyes in Hot Water with NCAA (Again)?
In-Reply-To: <005001cbde0d$4279a2c0$c76ce840$@com>
References: <8CDABF2C3595F08-23FC-AA24@webmail-d082.sysops.aol.com><002d01cbdde1$a7d90970$f78b1c50$@com>
	<406156878-1299624149-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-1686661432-@bda2184.bisx.prod.on.blackberry><003701cbdde3$1633cf80$429b6e80$@com>
	<1138248543-1299624845-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-701218467-@bda2184.bisx.prod.on.blackberry><003f01cbddf1$b23c3c60$16b4b520$@com>
	<1778920849-1299631439-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-1414770109-@bda2184.bisx.prod.on.blackberry><005001cbde0d$4279a2c0$c76ce840$@com>
Message-ID: <543767080-1299642969-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-1965605679-@bda2184.bisx.prod.on.blackberry>

So you must remember thr big fight between minny and OSU in hoops in 1972 ?
Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry

-----Original Message-----
From: "Roy S. Lamberton" <rstetson@capps-assoc.com>
Date: Tue, 8 Mar 2011 22:51:23 
To: <hakirsch@aol.com>
Cc: <nwu-sports@tssi.com>
Subject: RE: [NU Sports] Buckeyes in Hot Water with NCAA (Again)?

I'm adding the full list to this thread since we're talking about things that partially
originated here....

I just remember that the AD while I was at NU (72-74) 

1. Hired Tex Winter to coach baseketball
2. Put in the Tartan Turf field at Dyche.

In any case, when I was first doing Purple Reign for then Rivals, a few of our posters
both here and on the chat rooms there started mocking The Ohio State University by
abbreviating the name tOSU.

After a year or so, the NCAA started making a lot of noise about graduation rates, and
published a rather damning document Football grad rate at about 40% and their Baseketball
rate at under 20%.

I remember posting a commentary to the effect that until tOSU got those numbers up above
50%, I would call them d (for duh) OSU instead. It caught on among a few readers - I think
there are a couple of guys who still use it. 

I was on the Bucknuts radio show talking about NU football one time, and my appearance was
questioned by some readers, stating that I used dOSU in my commentaries. Now that I'm not
writing much for sports, I've lost track of the grad rates at dOSU - are they any better?

rsl

++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
Roy S. Lamberton - Senior Associate & Unix Guru.
Computer Applications & Support Associates
-------------------- Also ----------------------
"Commissioner" Delaware American Legion Baseball
Director Media Relations - Little League 
  Senior League Softball World Series
CTRCS USN/USNR Retired
Northwestern University - Speech 1974 - 
Chi Phi: Pi 1974, KD 1968
Publisher Emeritus: Purple Reign (Fox Sports)
==========  Go Cats -? Beat 'em All  ===========
"...Then I get on my knees and pray,
WE DON'T GET FOOLED AGAIN!" -- Pete Townsend
================================================


-----Original Message-----
From: hakirsch@aol.com [mailto:hakirsch@aol.com] 
Sent: Tuesday, March 08, 2011 7:41 PM
To: Roy S. Lamberton
Subject: Re: [NU Sports] Buckeyes in Hot Water with NCAA (Again)?

Oh and Tippy Dye who was the AD at NU when you were there and was the QB at OSU when my
dad went there
Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry

-----Original Message-----
From: "Roy S. Lamberton" <rstetson@capps-assoc.com>
Date: Tue, 8 Mar 2011 19:34:05 
To: <hakirsch@aol.com>
Subject: RE: [NU Sports] Buckeyes in Hot Water with NCAA (Again)?

Yes, dOSU actually comes from some NU alums referring to them as tOSU in posts.

I changed the "t" to "d" when one of the NCAA reports on graduation came out showing their
lack of graduation prowess. I used to get roundly boiled by the dOSU alums on the chat
boards because I did that.

Oh well, old news now that St. Tressel is about to be skewered.


rsl



++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
Roy S. Lamberton - Senior Associate & Unix Guru.
Computer Applications & Support Associates
-------------------- Also ----------------------
"Commissioner" Delaware American Legion Baseball
Director Media Relations - Little League 
  Senior League Softball World Series
CTRCS USN/USNR Retired
Northwestern University - Speech 1974 - 
Chi Phi: Pi 1974, KD 1968
Publisher Emeritus: Purple Reign (Fox Sports)
==========  Go Cats -? Beat 'em All  ===========
"...Then I get on my knees and pray,
WE DON'T GET FOOLED AGAIN!" -- Pete Townsend
================================================


-----Original Message-----
From: hakirsch@aol.com [mailto:hakirsch@aol.com] 
Sent: Tuesday, March 08, 2011 5:54 PM
To: Roy S. Lamberton
Subject: Re: [NU Sports] Buckeyes in Hot Water with NCAA (Again)?

Funny.  When NFL players announce their ala mater they generally say The Ohio State
Univesity. So figured it derived from that. My late dad (today would be his  94th b day)
was an OSU grad and while he rooted for them, he despised their emphasis on sports at the
expense of academics 
Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry

-----Original Message-----
From: "Roy S. Lamberton" <rstetson@capps-assoc.com>
Date: Tue, 8 Mar 2011 17:49:30 
To: <hakirsch@aol.com>
Subject: RE: [NU Sports] Buckeyes in Hot Water with NCAA (Again)?

D stands for Duh - as in Duh Ohio State University, home of graduation rates under 50%.

Can also stand for the Homeric (Simpson) Doh as in "Doh, OSU officials claimed that they
didn't know the guy had flunked out prior to the season." Or, "doh OSU basketball team
once again had a graduation rate under 50%." (which is what spurred the original DuhOSU
back on Scout/Rivals)

It goes hand in hand with the Evil Empire for N**** D*** or MinnySoda, or many of the
derisive names that I have used over the years when referring to opponents.

I think it goes back to when I was working at Oklahoma - when we were going to "Shuffle
off the Buffaloes" one season against Colorado.

Remember that the original Purple Reign Chat Board had an official Grammar Policeman,
empowered to correct grammatical and spelling errors!

rsl





++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
Roy S. Lamberton - Senior Associate & Unix Guru.
Computer Applications & Support Associates
-------------------- Also ----------------------
"Commissioner" Delaware American Legion Baseball
Director Media Relations - Little League 
  Senior League Softball World Series
CTRCS USN/USNR Retired
Northwestern University - Speech 1974 - 
Chi Phi: Pi 1974, KD 1968
Publisher Emeritus: Purple Reign (Fox Sports)
==========  Go Cats -? Beat 'em All  ===========
"...Then I get on my knees and pray,
WE DON'T GET FOOLED AGAIN!" -- Pete Townsend
================================================


-----Original Message-----
From: hakirsch@aol.com [mailto:hakirsch@aol.com] 
Sent: Tuesday, March 08, 2011 5:42 PM
To: Roy S. Lamberton
Subject: Re: [NU Sports] Buckeyes in Hot Water with NCAA (Again)?

D stands for The or De ?
Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry

-----Original Message-----
From: "Roy S. Lamberton" <rstetson@capps-assoc.com>
Sender: nwu-sports-bounces@tssi.com
Date: Tue, 8 Mar 2011 17:39:15 
To: <neonrye@aol.com>; <nwu-sports@romaine.tssi.com>
Subject: RE: [NU Sports] Buckeyes in Hot Water with NCAA (Again)?

Why I still refer to them as dOSU

rsl

++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
Roy S. Lamberton - Senior Associate & Unix Guru.
Computer Applications & Support Associates
-------------------- Also ----------------------
"Commissioner" Delaware American Legion Baseball
Director Media Relations - Little League 
  Senior League Softball World Series
CTRCS USN/USNR Retired
Northwestern University - Speech 1974 - 
Chi Phi: Pi 1974, KD 1968
Publisher Emeritus: Purple Reign (Fox Sports)
==========  Go Cats -? Beat 'em All  ===========
"...Then I get on my knees and pray,
WE DON'T GET FOOLED AGAIN!" -- Pete Townsend
================================================

-----Original Message-----
From: nwu-sports-bounces@tssi.com [mailto:nwu-sports-bounces@tssi.com] On Behalf Of
neonrye@aol.com
Sent: Tuesday, March 08, 2011 4:56 PM
To: nwu-sports@romaine.tssi.com
Subject: [NU Sports] Buckeyes in Hot Water with NCAA (Again)?


It appears that St. Tressel may have known about the violations of NCAA Rules involving
Pryor and his mates--and not told the University, as he was contractually bound to do, as
per this ESPN online report:  http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/news/story?id=6194133

They are holding Press Conference at 7 p.m.  Stay tuned for "As The Buckeye (Worm) Turns".


Paul Levinson

The



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From eschoeman at sbcglobal.net  Tue Mar  8 23:10:43 2011
From: eschoeman at sbcglobal.net (Evans Schoeman)
Date: Tue Mar  8 23:10:50 2011
Subject: [NU Sports] Buckeyes in Hot Water with NCAA (Again)?
In-Reply-To: <005001cbde0d$4279a2c0$c76ce840$@com>
References: <8CDABF2C3595F08-23FC-AA24@webmail-d082.sysops.aol.com><002d01cbdde1$a7d90970$f78b1c50$@com>
	<406156878-1299624149-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-1686661432-@bda2184.bisx.prod.on.blackberry><003701cbdde3$1633cf80$429b6e80$@com>
	<1138248543-1299624845-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-701218467-@bda2184.bisx.prod.on.blackberry><003f01cbddf1$b23c3c60$16b4b520$@com>
	<1778920849-1299631439-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-1414770109-@bda2184.bisx.prod.on.blackberry>
	<005001cbde0d$4279a2c0$c76ce840$@com>
Message-ID: <381868.76884.qm@web83910.mail.sp1.yahoo.com>

Was talking to a good friend who graduated from tOSU around 1970.? His diploma 
says simply "Ohio State University".

He thinks that the "The" was added to the school name sometime in the mid-80s.? 
Not sure why, but it certainly gives outsiders something else to ridicule.





________________________________
From: Roy S. Lamberton <rstetson@capps-assoc.com>
To: hakirsch@aol.com
Cc: nwu-sports@tssi.com
Sent: Tue, March 8, 2011 9:51:23 PM
Subject: RE: [NU Sports] Buckeyes in Hot Water with NCAA (Again)?

I'm adding the full list to this thread since we're talking about things that 
partially
originated here....

I just remember that the AD while I was at NU (72-74) 

1. Hired Tex Winter to coach baseketball
2. Put in the Tartan Turf field at Dyche.

In any case, when I was first doing Purple Reign for then Rivals, a few of our 
posters
both here and on the chat rooms there started mocking The Ohio State University 
by
abbreviating the name tOSU.

After a year or so, the NCAA started making a lot of noise about graduation 
rates, and
published a rather damning document Football grad rate at about 40% and their 
Baseketball
rate at under 20%.

I remember posting a commentary to the effect that until tOSU got those numbers 
up above
50%, I would call them d (for duh) OSU instead. It caught on among a few readers 
- I think
there are a couple of guys who still use it. 

I was on the Bucknuts radio show talking about NU football one time, and my 
appearance was
questioned by some readers, stating that I used dOSU in my commentaries. Now 
that I'm not
writing much for sports, I've lost track of the grad rates at dOSU - are they 
any better?

rsl

++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
Roy S. Lamberton - Senior Associate & Unix Guru.
Computer Applications & Support Associates
-------------------- Also ----------------------
"Commissioner" Delaware American Legion Baseball
Director Media Relations - Little League 
? Senior League Softball World Series
CTRCS USN/USNR Retired
Northwestern University - Speech 1974 - 
Chi Phi: Pi 1974, KD 1968
Publisher Emeritus: Purple Reign (Fox Sports)
==========? Go Cats -? Beat 'em All? ===========
"...Then I get on my knees and pray,
WE DON'T GET FOOLED AGAIN!" -- Pete Townsend
================================================


-----Original Message-----
From: hakirsch@aol.com [mailto:hakirsch@aol.com] 
Sent: Tuesday, March 08, 2011 7:41 PM
To: Roy S. Lamberton
Subject: Re: [NU Sports] Buckeyes in Hot Water with NCAA (Again)?

Oh and Tippy Dye who was the AD at NU when you were there and was the QB at OSU 
when my
dad went there
Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry

-----Original Message-----
From: "Roy S. Lamberton" <rstetson@capps-assoc.com>
Date: Tue, 8 Mar 2011 19:34:05 
To: <hakirsch@aol.com>
Subject: RE: [NU Sports] Buckeyes in Hot Water with NCAA (Again)?

Yes, dOSU actually comes from some NU alums referring to them as tOSU in posts.

I changed the "t" to "d" when one of the NCAA reports on graduation came out 
showing their
lack of graduation prowess. I used to get roundly boiled by the dOSU alums on 
the chat
boards because I did that.

Oh well, old news now that St. Tressel is about to be skewered.


rsl



++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
Roy S. Lamberton - Senior Associate & Unix Guru.
Computer Applications & Support Associates
-------------------- Also ----------------------
"Commissioner" Delaware American Legion Baseball
Director Media Relations - Little League 
? Senior League Softball World Series
CTRCS USN/USNR Retired
Northwestern University - Speech 1974 - 
Chi Phi: Pi 1974, KD 1968
Publisher Emeritus: Purple Reign (Fox Sports)
==========? Go Cats -? Beat 'em All? ===========
"...Then I get on my knees and pray,
WE DON'T GET FOOLED AGAIN!" -- Pete Townsend
================================================


-----Original Message-----
From: hakirsch@aol.com [mailto:hakirsch@aol.com] 
Sent: Tuesday, March 08, 2011 5:54 PM
To: Roy S. Lamberton
Subject: Re: [NU Sports] Buckeyes in Hot Water with NCAA (Again)?

Funny.? When NFL players announce their ala mater they generally say The Ohio 
State
Univesity. So figured it derived from that. My late dad (today would be his? 
94th b day)
was an OSU grad and while he rooted for them, he despised their emphasis on 
sports at the
expense of academics 
Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry

-----Original Message-----
From: "Roy S. Lamberton" <rstetson@capps-assoc.com>
Date: Tue, 8 Mar 2011 17:49:30 
To: <hakirsch@aol.com>
Subject: RE: [NU Sports] Buckeyes in Hot Water with NCAA (Again)?

D stands for Duh - as in Duh Ohio State University, home of graduation rates 
under 50%.

Can also stand for the Homeric (Simpson) Doh as in "Doh, OSU officials claimed 
that they
didn't know the guy had flunked out prior to the season." Or, "doh OSU 
basketball team
once again had a graduation rate under 50%." (which is what spurred the original 
DuhOSU
back on Scout/Rivals)

It goes hand in hand with the Evil Empire for N**** D*** or MinnySoda, or many 
of the
derisive names that I have used over the years when referring to opponents.

I think it goes back to when I was working at Oklahoma - when we were going to 
"Shuffle
off the Buffaloes" one season against Colorado.

Remember that the original Purple Reign Chat Board had an official Grammar 
Policeman,
empowered to correct grammatical and spelling errors!

rsl





++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
Roy S. Lamberton - Senior Associate & Unix Guru.
Computer Applications & Support Associates
-------------------- Also ----------------------
"Commissioner" Delaware American Legion Baseball
Director Media Relations - Little League 
? Senior League Softball World Series
CTRCS USN/USNR Retired
Northwestern University - Speech 1974 - 
Chi Phi: Pi 1974, KD 1968
Publisher Emeritus: Purple Reign (Fox Sports)
==========? Go Cats -? Beat 'em All? ===========
"...Then I get on my knees and pray,
WE DON'T GET FOOLED AGAIN!" -- Pete Townsend
================================================


-----Original Message-----
From: hakirsch@aol.com [mailto:hakirsch@aol.com] 
Sent: Tuesday, March 08, 2011 5:42 PM
To: Roy S. Lamberton
Subject: Re: [NU Sports] Buckeyes in Hot Water with NCAA (Again)?

D stands for The or De ?
Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry

-----Original Message-----
From: "Roy S. Lamberton" <rstetson@capps-assoc.com>
Sender: nwu-sports-bounces@tssi.com
Date: Tue, 8 Mar 2011 17:39:15 
To: <neonrye@aol.com>; <nwu-sports@romaine.tssi.com>
Subject: RE: [NU Sports] Buckeyes in Hot Water with NCAA (Again)?

Why I still refer to them as dOSU

rsl

++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
Roy S. Lamberton - Senior Associate & Unix Guru.
Computer Applications & Support Associates
-------------------- Also ----------------------
"Commissioner" Delaware American Legion Baseball
Director Media Relations - Little League 
? Senior League Softball World Series
CTRCS USN/USNR Retired
Northwestern University - Speech 1974 - 
Chi Phi: Pi 1974, KD 1968
Publisher Emeritus: Purple Reign (Fox Sports)
==========? Go Cats -? Beat 'em All? ===========
"...Then I get on my knees and pray,
WE DON'T GET FOOLED AGAIN!" -- Pete Townsend
================================================

-----Original Message-----
From: nwu-sports-bounces@tssi.com [mailto:nwu-sports-bounces@tssi.com] On Behalf 
Of
neonrye@aol.com
Sent: Tuesday, March 08, 2011 4:56 PM
To: nwu-sports@romaine.tssi.com
Subject: [NU Sports] Buckeyes in Hot Water with NCAA (Again)?


It appears that St. Tressel may have known about the violations of NCAA Rules 
involving
Pryor and his mates--and not told the University, as he was contractually bound 
to do, as
per this ESPN online report:? 
http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/news/story?id=6194133

They are holding Press Conference at 7 p.m.? Stay tuned for "As The Buckeye 
(Worm) Turns".


Paul Levinson

The



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From Willie.Weinbaum at espn.com  Wed Mar  9 07:22:12 2011
From: Willie.Weinbaum at espn.com (Weinbaum, Willie)
Date: Wed Mar  9 07:24:34 2011
Subject: [NU Sports] Alum Darren Rovell on NFL Labor Pains
Message-ID: <1F89BB2CE7A5B94D969618E8CC769CC36874B2B8@XCHGBRS4.corp.espn.pvt>

Audio: Darren Rovell Talks NFL CBA
The Dennis & Callahan Show
CNBC's Darren Rovell talks NFL CBA with Dale and Gerry.
http://audio.weei.com/a/37401760/darren-rovell-talks-nfl-cba.htm


>From Blackberry - please excuse typos

W. Weinbaum
Producer
212-916-9864 (24-hour voicemail)
willie.weinbaum@espn.com

From rstetson at capps-assoc.com  Wed Mar  9 10:28:00 2011
From: rstetson at capps-assoc.com (Roy S. Lamberton)
Date: Wed Mar  9 10:27:43 2011
Subject: [NU Sports] Buckeyes in Hot Water with NCAA (Again)?
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2 questions:

 

1.     Do today's diplomas say "The Ohio State University"

2.     Which of the coaches would be guilty of starting the players saying The OSU as a
way of setting themselves apart.

 

I still don't "get" the idea of saying your High School, or neighborhood during
introductions. At least most of our guys say Northwestern like they are reasonably proud
of the institution.

 

rsl

 

++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

Roy S. Lamberton - Senior Associate & Unix Guru.

Computer Applications & Support Associates

-------------------- Also ----------------------

"Commissioner" Delaware American Legion Baseball

Director Media Relations - Little League 

  Senior League Softball World Series

CTRCS USN/USNR Retired

Northwestern University - Speech 1974 - 

Chi Phi: Pi 1974, KD 1968

Publisher Emeritus: Purple Reign (Fox Sports)

==========  Go Cats -  Beat 'em All  ===========

"...Then I get on my knees and pray,

WE DON'T GET FOOLED AGAIN!" -- Pete Townsend

================================================

 

From: Evans Schoeman [mailto:eschoeman@sbcglobal.net] 
Sent: Wednesday, March 09, 2011 12:11 AM
To: Roy S. Lamberton; hakirsch@aol.com
Cc: nwu-sports@tssi.com
Subject: Re: [NU Sports] Buckeyes in Hot Water with NCAA (Again)?

 

Was talking to a good friend who graduated from tOSU around 1970.  His diploma says simply
"Ohio State University".

He thinks that the "The" was added to the school name sometime in the mid-80s.  Not sure
why, but it certainly gives outsiders something else to ridicule.

 

  _____  

From: Roy S. Lamberton <rstetson@capps-assoc.com>
To: hakirsch@aol.com
Cc: nwu-sports@tssi.com
Sent: Tue, March 8, 2011 9:51:23 PM
Subject: RE: [NU Sports] Buckeyes in Hot Water with NCAA (Again)?

I'm adding the full list to this thread since we're talking about things that partially
originated here....

I just remember that the AD while I was at NU (72-74) 

1. Hired Tex Winter to coach baseketball
2. Put in the Tartan Turf field at Dyche.

In any case, when I was first doing Purple Reign for then Rivals, a few of our posters
both here and on the chat rooms there started mocking The Ohio State University by
abbreviating the name tOSU.

After a year or so, the NCAA started making a lot of noise about graduation rates, and
published a rather damning document Football grad rate at about 40% and their Baseketball
rate at under 20%.

I remember posting a commentary to the effect that until tOSU got those numbers up above
50%, I would call them d (for duh) OSU instead. It caught on among a few readers - I think
there are a couple of guys who still use it. 

I was on the Bucknuts radio show talking about NU football one time, and my appearance was
questioned by some readers, stating that I used dOSU in my commentaries. Now that I'm not
writing much for sports, I've lost track of the grad rates at dOSU - are they any better?

rsl

++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
Roy S. Lamberton - Senior Associate & Unix Guru.
Computer Applications & Support Associates
-------------------- Also ----------------------
"Commissioner" Delaware American Legion Baseball
Director Media Relations - Little League 
  Senior League Softball World Series
CTRCS USN/USNR Retired
Northwestern University - Speech 1974 - 
Chi Phi: Pi 1974, KD 1968
Publisher Emeritus: Purple Reign (Fox Sports)
==========  Go Cats -  Beat 'em All  ===========
"...Then I get on my knees and pray,
WE DON'T GET FOOLED AGAIN!" -- Pete Townsend
================================================


-----Original Message-----
From: hakirsch@aol.com [mailto:hakirsch@aol.com] 
Sent: Tuesday, March 08, 2011 7:41 PM
To: Roy S. Lamberton
Subject: Re: [NU Sports] Buckeyes in Hot Water with NCAA (Again)?

Oh and Tippy Dye who was the AD at NU when you were there and was the QB at OSU when my
dad went there
Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry

-----Original Message-----
From: "Roy S. Lamberton" <rstetson@capps-assoc.com>
Date: Tue, 8 Mar 2011 19:34:05 
To: <hakirsch@aol.com>
Subject: RE: [NU Sports] Buckeyes in Hot Water with NCAA (Again)?

Yes, dOSU actually comes from some NU alums referring to them as tOSU in posts.

I changed the "t" to "d" when one of the NCAA reports on graduation came out showing their
lack of graduation prowess. I used to get roundly boiled by the dOSU alums on the chat
boards because I did that.

Oh well, old news now that St. Tressel is about to be skewered.


rsl



++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
Roy S. Lamberton - Senior Associate & Unix Guru.
Computer Applications & Support Associates
-------------------- Also ----------------------
"Commissioner" Delaware American Legion Baseball
Director Media Relations - Little League 
  Senior League Softball World Series
CTRCS USN/USNR Retired
Northwestern University - Speech 1974 - 
Chi Phi: Pi 1974, KD 1968
Publisher Emeritus: Purple Reign (Fox Sports)
==========  Go Cats -  Beat 'em All  ===========
"...Then I get on my knees and pray,
WE DON'T GET FOOLED AGAIN!" -- Pete Townsend
================================================


-----Original Message-----
From: hakirsch@aol.com [mailto:hakirsch@aol.com] 
Sent: Tuesday, March 08, 2011 5:54 PM
To: Roy S. Lamberton
Subject: Re: [NU Sports] Buckeyes in Hot Water with NCAA (Again)?

Funny.  When NFL players announce their ala mater they generally say The Ohio State
Univesity. So figured it derived from that. My late dad (today would be his  94th b day)
was an OSU grad and while he rooted for them, he despised their emphasis on sports at the
expense of academics 
Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry

-----Original Message-----
From: "Roy S. Lamberton" <rstetson@capps-assoc.com>
Date: Tue, 8 Mar 2011 17:49:30 
To: <hakirsch@aol.com>
Subject: RE: [NU Sports] Buckeyes in Hot Water with NCAA (Again)?

D stands for Duh - as in Duh Ohio State University, home of graduation rates under 50%.

Can also stand for the Homeric (Simpson) Doh as in "Doh, OSU officials claimed that they
didn't know the guy had flunked out prior to the season." Or, "doh OSU basketball team
once again had a graduation rate under 50%." (which is what spurred the original DuhOSU
back on Scout/Rivals)

It goes hand in hand with the Evil Empire for N**** D*** or MinnySoda, or many of the
derisive names that I have used over the years when referring to opponents.

I think it goes back to when I was working at Oklahoma - when we were going to "Shuffle
off the Buffaloes" one season against Colorado.

Remember that the original Purple Reign Chat Board had an official Grammar Policeman,
empowered to correct grammatical and spelling errors!

rsl





++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
Roy S. Lamberton - Senior Associate & Unix Guru.
Computer Applications & Support Associates
-------------------- Also ----------------------
"Commissioner" Delaware American Legion Baseball
Director Media Relations - Little League 
  Senior League Softball World Series
CTRCS USN/USNR Retired
Northwestern University - Speech 1974 - 
Chi Phi: Pi 1974, KD 1968
Publisher Emeritus: Purple Reign (Fox Sports)
==========  Go Cats -  Beat 'em All  ===========
"...Then I get on my knees and pray,
WE DON'T GET FOOLED AGAIN!" -- Pete Townsend
================================================


-----Original Message-----
From: hakirsch@aol.com [mailto:hakirsch@aol.com] 
Sent: Tuesday, March 08, 2011 5:42 PM
To: Roy S. Lamberton
Subject: Re: [NU Sports] Buckeyes in Hot Water with NCAA (Again)?

D stands for The or De ?
Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry

-----Original Message-----
From: "Roy S. Lamberton" <rstetson@capps-assoc.com>
Sender: nwu-sports-bounces@tssi.com
Date: Tue, 8 Mar 2011 17:39:15 
To: <neonrye@aol.com>; <nwu-sports@romaine.tssi.com>
Subject: RE: [NU Sports] Buckeyes in Hot Water with NCAA (Again)?

Why I still refer to them as dOSU

rsl

++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
Roy S. Lamberton - Senior Associate & Unix Guru.
Computer Applications & Support Associates
-------------------- Also ----------------------
"Commissioner" Delaware American Legion Baseball
Director Media Relations - Little League 
  Senior League Softball World Series
CTRCS USN/USNR Retired
Northwestern University - Speech 1974 - 
Chi Phi: Pi 1974, KD 1968
Publisher Emeritus: Purple Reign (Fox Sports)
==========  Go Cats -  Beat 'em All  ===========
"...Then I get on my knees and pray,
WE DON'T GET FOOLED AGAIN!" -- Pete Townsend
================================================

-----Original Message-----
From: nwu-sports-bounces@tssi.com [mailto:nwu-sports-bounces@tssi.com] On Behalf Of
neonrye@aol.com
Sent: Tuesday, March 08, 2011 4:56 PM
To: nwu-sports@romaine.tssi.com
Subject: [NU Sports] Buckeyes in Hot Water with NCAA (Again)?


It appears that St. Tressel may have known about the violations of NCAA Rules involving
Pryor and his mates--and not told the University, as he was contractually bound to do, as
per this ESPN online report:  http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/news/story?id=6194133

They are holding Press Conference at 7 p.m.  Stay tuned for "As The Buckeye (Worm) Turns".


Paul Levinson

The



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From thehaze at earthlink.net  Wed Mar  9 10:40:49 2011
From: thehaze at earthlink.net (Jim Bendat)
Date: Wed Mar  9 10:41:13 2011
Subject: [NU Sports] Buckeyes in Hot Water with NCAA (Again)?
Message-ID: <3315874.1299688849468.JavaMail.root@wamui-cynical.atl.sa.earthlink.net>

I just took a look at my 1969 Rose Bowl program. That game was Ohio State vs. SC. On the title page (which would be the equivalent of page 3), it clearly says University of Southern California vs. The Ohio State University. - Jim B.


-----Original Message-----
>From: Evans Schoeman <eschoeman@sbcglobal.net>
>Sent: Mar 8, 2011 9:10 PM
>To: "Roy S. Lamberton" <rstetson@capps-assoc.com>, hakirsch@aol.com
>Cc: nwu-sports@tssi.com
>Subject: Re: [NU Sports] Buckeyes in Hot Water with NCAA (Again)?
>
>Was talking to a good friend who graduated from tOSU around 1970.? His diploma 
>says simply "Ohio State University".
>
>He thinks that the "The" was added to the school name sometime in the mid-80s.? 
>Not sure why, but it certainly gives outsiders something else to ridicule.
>
>
>
>
>
>________________________________
>From: Roy S. Lamberton <rstetson@capps-assoc.com>
>To: hakirsch@aol.com
>Cc: nwu-sports@tssi.com
>Sent: Tue, March 8, 2011 9:51:23 PM
>Subject: RE: [NU Sports] Buckeyes in Hot Water with NCAA (Again)?
>
>I'm adding the full list to this thread since we're talking about things that 
>partially
>originated here....
>
>I just remember that the AD while I was at NU (72-74) 
>
>1. Hired Tex Winter to coach baseketball
>2. Put in the Tartan Turf field at Dyche.
>
>In any case, when I was first doing Purple Reign for then Rivals, a few of our 
>posters
>both here and on the chat rooms there started mocking The Ohio State University 
>by
>abbreviating the name tOSU.
>
>After a year or so, the NCAA started making a lot of noise about graduation 
>rates, and
>published a rather damning document Football grad rate at about 40% and their 
>Baseketball
>rate at under 20%.
>
>I remember posting a commentary to the effect that until tOSU got those numbers 
>up above
>50%, I would call them d (for duh) OSU instead. It caught on among a few readers 
>- I think
>there are a couple of guys who still use it. 
>
>I was on the Bucknuts radio show talking about NU football one time, and my 
>appearance was
>questioned by some readers, stating that I used dOSU in my commentaries. Now 
>that I'm not
>writing much for sports, I've lost track of the grad rates at dOSU - are they 
>any better?
>
>rsl
>
>++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
>Roy S. Lamberton - Senior Associate & Unix Guru.
>Computer Applications & Support Associates
>-------------------- Also ----------------------
>"Commissioner" Delaware American Legion Baseball
>Director Media Relations - Little League 
>? Senior League Softball World Series
>CTRCS USN/USNR Retired
>Northwestern University - Speech 1974 - 
>Chi Phi: Pi 1974, KD 1968
>Publisher Emeritus: Purple Reign (Fox Sports)
>==========? Go Cats -? Beat 'em All? ===========
>"...Then I get on my knees and pray,
>WE DON'T GET FOOLED AGAIN!" -- Pete Townsend
>================================================
>
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: hakirsch@aol.com [mailto:hakirsch@aol.com] 
>Sent: Tuesday, March 08, 2011 7:41 PM
>To: Roy S. Lamberton
>Subject: Re: [NU Sports] Buckeyes in Hot Water with NCAA (Again)?
>
>Oh and Tippy Dye who was the AD at NU when you were there and was the QB at OSU 
>when my
>dad went there
>Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: "Roy S. Lamberton" <rstetson@capps-assoc.com>
>Date: Tue, 8 Mar 2011 19:34:05 
>To: <hakirsch@aol.com>
>Subject: RE: [NU Sports] Buckeyes in Hot Water with NCAA (Again)?
>
>Yes, dOSU actually comes from some NU alums referring to them as tOSU in posts.
>
>I changed the "t" to "d" when one of the NCAA reports on graduation came out 
>showing their
>lack of graduation prowess. I used to get roundly boiled by the dOSU alums on 
>the chat
>boards because I did that.
>
>Oh well, old news now that St. Tressel is about to be skewered.
>
>
>rsl
>
>
>
>++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
>Roy S. Lamberton - Senior Associate & Unix Guru.
>Computer Applications & Support Associates
>-------------------- Also ----------------------
>"Commissioner" Delaware American Legion Baseball
>Director Media Relations - Little League 
>? Senior League Softball World Series
>CTRCS USN/USNR Retired
>Northwestern University - Speech 1974 - 
>Chi Phi: Pi 1974, KD 1968
>Publisher Emeritus: Purple Reign (Fox Sports)
>==========? Go Cats -? Beat 'em All? ===========
>"...Then I get on my knees and pray,
>WE DON'T GET FOOLED AGAIN!" -- Pete Townsend
>================================================
>
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: hakirsch@aol.com [mailto:hakirsch@aol.com] 
>Sent: Tuesday, March 08, 2011 5:54 PM
>To: Roy S. Lamberton
>Subject: Re: [NU Sports] Buckeyes in Hot Water with NCAA (Again)?
>
>Funny.? When NFL players announce their ala mater they generally say The Ohio 
>State
>Univesity. So figured it derived from that. My late dad (today would be his? 
>94th b day)
>was an OSU grad and while he rooted for them, he despised their emphasis on 
>sports at the
>expense of academics 
>Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: "Roy S. Lamberton" <rstetson@capps-assoc.com>
>Date: Tue, 8 Mar 2011 17:49:30 
>To: <hakirsch@aol.com>
>Subject: RE: [NU Sports] Buckeyes in Hot Water with NCAA (Again)?
>
>D stands for Duh - as in Duh Ohio State University, home of graduation rates 
>under 50%.
>
>Can also stand for the Homeric (Simpson) Doh as in "Doh, OSU officials claimed 
>that they
>didn't know the guy had flunked out prior to the season." Or, "doh OSU 
>basketball team
>once again had a graduation rate under 50%." (which is what spurred the original 
>DuhOSU
>back on Scout/Rivals)
>
>It goes hand in hand with the Evil Empire for N**** D*** or MinnySoda, or many 
>of the
>derisive names that I have used over the years when referring to opponents.
>
>I think it goes back to when I was working at Oklahoma - when we were going to 
>"Shuffle
>off the Buffaloes" one season against Colorado.
>
>Remember that the original Purple Reign Chat Board had an official Grammar 
>Policeman,
>empowered to correct grammatical and spelling errors!
>
>rsl
>
>
>
>
>
>++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
>Roy S. Lamberton - Senior Associate & Unix Guru.
>Computer Applications & Support Associates
>-------------------- Also ----------------------
>"Commissioner" Delaware American Legion Baseball
>Director Media Relations - Little League 
>? Senior League Softball World Series
>CTRCS USN/USNR Retired
>Northwestern University - Speech 1974 - 
>Chi Phi: Pi 1974, KD 1968
>Publisher Emeritus: Purple Reign (Fox Sports)
>==========? Go Cats -? Beat 'em All? ===========
>"...Then I get on my knees and pray,
>WE DON'T GET FOOLED AGAIN!" -- Pete Townsend
>================================================
>
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: hakirsch@aol.com [mailto:hakirsch@aol.com] 
>Sent: Tuesday, March 08, 2011 5:42 PM
>To: Roy S. Lamberton
>Subject: Re: [NU Sports] Buckeyes in Hot Water with NCAA (Again)?
>
>D stands for The or De ?
>Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: "Roy S. Lamberton" <rstetson@capps-assoc.com>
>Sender: nwu-sports-bounces@tssi.com
>Date: Tue, 8 Mar 2011 17:39:15 
>To: <neonrye@aol.com>; <nwu-sports@romaine.tssi.com>
>Subject: RE: [NU Sports] Buckeyes in Hot Water with NCAA (Again)?
>
>Why I still refer to them as dOSU
>
>rsl
>
>++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
>Roy S. Lamberton - Senior Associate & Unix Guru.
>Computer Applications & Support Associates
>-------------------- Also ----------------------
>"Commissioner" Delaware American Legion Baseball
>Director Media Relations - Little League 
>? Senior League Softball World Series
>CTRCS USN/USNR Retired
>Northwestern University - Speech 1974 - 
>Chi Phi: Pi 1974, KD 1968
>Publisher Emeritus: Purple Reign (Fox Sports)
>==========? Go Cats -? Beat 'em All? ===========
>"...Then I get on my knees and pray,
>WE DON'T GET FOOLED AGAIN!" -- Pete Townsend
>================================================
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: nwu-sports-bounces@tssi.com [mailto:nwu-sports-bounces@tssi.com] On Behalf 
>Of
>neonrye@aol.com
>Sent: Tuesday, March 08, 2011 4:56 PM
>To: nwu-sports@romaine.tssi.com
>Subject: [NU Sports] Buckeyes in Hot Water with NCAA (Again)?
>
>
>It appears that St. Tressel may have known about the violations of NCAA Rules 
>involving
>Pryor and his mates--and not told the University, as he was contractually bound 
>to do, as
>per this ESPN online report:? 
>http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/news/story?id=6194133
>
>They are holding Press Conference at 7 p.m.? Stay tuned for "As The Buckeye 
>(Worm) Turns".
>
>
>Paul Levinson
>
>The
>
>
>
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From eschoeman at sbcglobal.net  Wed Mar  9 10:41:44 2011
From: eschoeman at sbcglobal.net (Evans Schoeman)
Date: Wed Mar  9 10:41:56 2011
Subject: [NU Sports] Buckeyes in Hot Water with NCAA (Again)?
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On his tweets, Pryor refers to his school as "THE Ohio State University".




________________________________
From: Roy S. Lamberton <rstetson@capps-assoc.com>
To: Evans Schoeman <eschoeman@sbcglobal.net>; hakirsch@aol.com
Cc: nwu-sports@tssi.com
Sent: Wed, March 9, 2011 10:28:00 AM
Subject: RE: [NU Sports] Buckeyes in Hot Water with NCAA (Again)?


2 questions:
?
1.???? Do today?s diplomas say ?The Ohio State University?
2.???? Which of the coaches would be guilty of starting the players saying The 
OSU as a way of setting themselves apart.
?
I still don?t ?get? the idea of saying your High School, or neighborhood during 
introductions. At least most of our guys say Northwestern like they are 
reasonably proud of the institution.
?
rsl
?
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
Roy S. Lamberton - Senior Associate & Unix Guru.
Computer Applications & Support Associates
-------------------- Also ----------------------
"Commissioner" Delaware American Legion Baseball
Director Media Relations - Little League 
??Senior League Softball World Series
CTRCS USN/USNR Retired
Northwestern University - Speech 1974 - 
Chi Phi: Pi 1974, KD 1968
Publisher Emeritus: Purple Reign (Fox Sports)
==========? Go Cats -? Beat 'em All? ===========
"...Then I get on my knees and pray,
WE DON'T GET FOOLED AGAIN!" -- Pete Townsend
================================================
?
From:Evans Schoeman [mailto:eschoeman@sbcglobal.net] 
Sent: Wednesday, March 09, 2011 12:11 AM
To: Roy S. Lamberton; hakirsch@aol.com
Cc: nwu-sports@tssi.com
Subject: Re: [NU Sports] Buckeyes in Hot Water with NCAA (Again)?
?
Was talking to a good friend who graduated from tOSU around 1970.? His diploma 
says simply "Ohio State University".

He thinks that the "The" was added to the school name sometime in the mid-80s.? 
Not sure why, but it certainly gives outsiders something else to ridicule.
?

________________________________

From:Roy S. Lamberton <rstetson@capps-assoc.com>
To: hakirsch@aol.com
Cc: nwu-sports@tssi.com
Sent: Tue, March 8, 2011 9:51:23 PM
Subject: RE: [NU Sports] Buckeyes in Hot Water with NCAA (Again)?

I'm adding the full list to this thread since we're talking about things that 
partially
originated here....

I just remember that the AD while I was at NU (72-74) 

1. Hired Tex Winter to coach baseketball
2. Put in the Tartan Turf field at Dyche.

In any case, when I was first doing Purple Reign for then Rivals, a few of our 
posters
both here and on the chat rooms there started mocking The Ohio State University 
by
abbreviating the name tOSU.

After a year or so, the NCAA started making a lot of noise about graduation 
rates, and
published a rather damning document Football grad rate at about 40% and their 
Baseketball
rate at under 20%.

I remember posting a commentary to the effect that until tOSU got those numbers 
up above
50%, I would call them d (for duh) OSU instead. It caught on among a few readers 
- I think
there are a couple of guys who still use it. 

I was on the Bucknuts radio show talking about NU football one time, and my 
appearance was
questioned by some readers, stating that I used dOSU in my commentaries. Now 
that I'm not
writing much for sports, I've lost track of the grad rates at dOSU - are they 
any better?

rsl

++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
Roy S. Lamberton - Senior Associate & Unix Guru.
Computer Applications & Support Associates
-------------------- Also ----------------------
"Commissioner" Delaware American Legion Baseball
Director Media Relations - Little League 
? Senior League Softball World Series
CTRCS USN/USNR Retired
Northwestern University - Speech 1974 - 
Chi Phi: Pi 1974, KD 1968
Publisher Emeritus: Purple Reign (Fox Sports)
==========? Go Cats -? Beat 'em All? ===========
"...Then I get on my knees and pray,
WE DON'T GET FOOLED AGAIN!" -- Pete Townsend
================================================


-----Original Message-----
From: hakirsch@aol.com [mailto:hakirsch@aol.com] 
Sent: Tuesday, March 08, 2011 7:41 PM
To: Roy S. Lamberton
Subject: Re: [NU Sports] Buckeyes in Hot Water with NCAA (Again)?

Oh and Tippy Dye who was the AD at NU when you were there and was the QB at OSU 
when my
dad went there
Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry

-----Original Message-----
From: "Roy S. Lamberton" <rstetson@capps-assoc.com>
Date: Tue, 8 Mar 2011 19:34:05 
To: <hakirsch@aol.com>
Subject: RE: [NU Sports] Buckeyes in Hot Water with NCAA (Again)?

Yes, dOSU actually comes from some NU alums referring to them as tOSU in posts.

I changed the "t" to "d" when one of the NCAA reports on graduation came out 
showing their
lack of graduation prowess. I used to get roundly boiled by the dOSU alums on 
the chat
boards because I did that.

Oh well, old news now that St. Tressel is about to be skewered.


rsl



++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
Roy S. Lamberton - Senior Associate & Unix Guru.
Computer Applications & Support Associates
-------------------- Also ----------------------
"Commissioner" Delaware American Legion Baseball
Director Media Relations - Little League 
? Senior League Softball World Series
CTRCS USN/USNR Retired
Northwestern University - Speech 1974 - 
Chi Phi: Pi 1974, KD 1968
Publisher Emeritus: Purple Reign (Fox Sports)
==========? Go Cats -? Beat 'em All? ===========
"...Then I get on my knees and pray,
WE DON'T GET FOOLED AGAIN!" -- Pete Townsend
================================================


-----Original Message-----
From: hakirsch@aol.com [mailto:hakirsch@aol.com] 
Sent: Tuesday, March 08, 2011 5:54 PM
To: Roy S. Lamberton
Subject: Re: [NU Sports] Buckeyes in Hot Water with NCAA (Again)?

Funny.? When NFL players announce their ala mater they generally say The Ohio 
State
Univesity. So figured it derived from that. My late dad (today would be his? 
94th b day)
was an OSU grad and while he rooted for them, he despised their emphasis on 
sports at the
expense of academics 
Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry

-----Original Message-----
From: "Roy S. Lamberton" <rstetson@capps-assoc.com>
Date: Tue, 8 Mar 2011 17:49:30 
To: <hakirsch@aol.com>
Subject: RE: [NU Sports] Buckeyes in Hot Water with NCAA (Again)?

D stands for Duh - as in Duh Ohio State University, home of graduation rates 
under 50%.

Can also stand for the Homeric (Simpson) Doh as in "Doh, OSU officials claimed 
that they
didn't know the guy had flunked out prior to the season." Or, "doh OSU 
basketball team
once again had a graduation rate under 50%." (which is what spurred the original 
DuhOSU
back on Scout/Rivals)

It goes hand in hand with the Evil Empire for N**** D*** or MinnySoda, or many 
of the
derisive names that I have used over the years when referring to opponents.

I think it goes back to when I was working at Oklahoma - when we were going to 
"Shuffle
off the Buffaloes" one season against Colorado.

Remember that the original Purple Reign Chat Board had an official Grammar 
Policeman,
empowered to correct grammatical and spelling errors!

rsl





++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
Roy S. Lamberton - Senior Associate & Unix Guru.
Computer Applications & Support Associates
-------------------- Also ----------------------
"Commissioner" Delaware American Legion Baseball
Director Media Relations - Little League 
? Senior League Softball World Series
CTRCS USN/USNR Retired
Northwestern University - Speech 1974 - 
Chi Phi: Pi 1974, KD 1968
Publisher Emeritus: Purple Reign (Fox Sports)
==========? Go Cats -? Beat 'em All? ===========
"...Then I get on my knees and pray,
WE DON'T GET FOOLED AGAIN!" -- Pete Townsend
================================================


-----Original Message-----
From: hakirsch@aol.com [mailto:hakirsch@aol.com] 
Sent: Tuesday, March 08, 2011 5:42 PM
To: Roy S. Lamberton
Subject: Re: [NU Sports] Buckeyes in Hot Water with NCAA (Again)?

D stands for The or De ?
Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry

-----Original Message-----
From: "Roy S. Lamberton" <rstetson@capps-assoc.com>
Sender: nwu-sports-bounces@tssi.com
Date: Tue, 8 Mar 2011 17:39:15 
To: <neonrye@aol.com>; <nwu-sports@romaine.tssi.com>
Subject: RE: [NU Sports] Buckeyes in Hot Water with NCAA (Again)?

Why I still refer to them as dOSU

rsl

++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
Roy S. Lamberton - Senior Associate & Unix Guru.
Computer Applications & Support Associates
-------------------- Also ----------------------
"Commissioner" Delaware American Legion Baseball
Director Media Relations - Little League 
? Senior League Softball World Series
CTRCS USN/USNR Retired
Northwestern University - Speech 1974 - 
Chi Phi: Pi 1974, KD 1968
Publisher Emeritus: Purple Reign (Fox Sports)
==========? Go Cats -? Beat 'em All? ===========
"...Then I get on my knees and pray,
WE DON'T GET FOOLED AGAIN!" -- Pete Townsend
================================================

-----Original Message-----
From: nwu-sports-bounces@tssi.com [mailto:nwu-sports-bounces@tssi.com] On Behalf 
Of
neonrye@aol.com
Sent: Tuesday, March 08, 2011 4:56 PM
To: nwu-sports@romaine.tssi.com
Subject: [NU Sports] Buckeyes in Hot Water with NCAA (Again)?


It appears that St. Tressel may have known about the violations of NCAA Rules 
involving
Pryor and his mates--and not told the University, as he was contractually bound 
to do, as
per this ESPN online report:? 
http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/news/story?id=6194133

They are holding Press Conference at 7 p.m.? Stay tuned for "As The Buckeye 
(Worm) Turns".


Paul Levinson

The



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From rstetson at capps-assoc.com  Wed Mar  9 11:06:14 2011
From: rstetson at capps-assoc.com (Roy S. Lamberton)
Date: Wed Mar  9 11:06:04 2011
Subject: [NU Sports] dOSU and Tressel
Message-ID: <000701cbde7c$4c715d80$e5541880$@com>

http://content.usatoday.com/communities/campusrivalry/post/2011/03/ohio-state-jim-tressel-
yahoo-sports-player-suspensions/1

Telling paragraph:
When Ohio State President E. Gordon Gee was asked if he considered firing Tressel, he
said, "No. Are you kidding? I'm just hoping the coach doesn't dismiss me."

Something wrong there... IMHO

rsl

++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
Roy S. Lamberton - Senior Associate & Unix Guru.
Computer Applications & Support Associates
-------------------- Also ----------------------
"Commissioner" Delaware American Legion Baseball
Director Media Relations - Little League 
  Senior League Softball World Series
CTRCS USN/USNR Retired
Northwestern University - Speech 1974 - 
Chi Phi: Pi 1974, KD 1968
Publisher Emeritus: Purple Reign (Fox Sports)
==========  Go Cats -? Beat 'em All  ===========
"...Then I get on my knees and pray,
WE DON'T GET FOOLED AGAIN!" -- Pete Townsend
================================================




From herms at hotmail.com  Wed Mar  9 11:11:22 2011
From: herms at hotmail.com (Herman Wang)
Date: Wed Mar  9 11:11:46 2011
Subject: [NU Sports] Capocci out, Cobb doubtful
In-Reply-To: <000701cbde7c$4c715d80$e5541880$@com>
References: <000701cbde7c$4c715d80$e5541880$@com>
Message-ID: <SNT104-W24D47D3790E413AA621C49AEC90@phx.gbl>


Get ready for the miracle run of miracle runs in the Big Ten tournament.  Lindsey Willhite of the Daily Herald just tweeted that Mike Capocci is out with a head injury that apparently has required seven stitches (must be a story there), and Jershon Cobb is doubtful.  Jeff Ryan also will likely remain sidelined.  We're down to eight healthy scholarship guys.  NU will be on Sportscenter for a week and Disney will for sure make a movie about the team, when we run the table. 		 	   		  
From alan.abrahamson at gmail.com  Wed Mar  9 11:13:28 2011
From: alan.abrahamson at gmail.com (Alan Abrahamson)
Date: Wed Mar  9 11:14:01 2011
Subject: [NU Sports] Capocci out, Cobb doubtful
In-Reply-To: <SNT104-W24D47D3790E413AA621C49AEC90@phx.gbl>
References: <000701cbde7c$4c715d80$e5541880$@com>
	<SNT104-W24D47D3790E413AA621C49AEC90@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <AANLkTinBmFC6qD=F9690=2M+KSS=eAb3fUcj3cmL366W@mail.gmail.com>

Now that is optimism. Kudos.

On Wed, Mar 9, 2011 at 9:11 AM, Herman Wang <herms@hotmail.com> wrote:

>
> Get ready for the miracle run of miracle runs in the Big Ten tournament.
>  Lindsey Willhite of the Daily Herald just tweeted that Mike Capocci is out
> with a head injury that apparently has required seven stitches (must be a
> story there), and Jershon Cobb is doubtful.  Jeff Ryan also will likely
> remain sidelined.  We're down to eight healthy scholarship guys.  NU will be
> on Sportscenter for a week and Disney will for sure make a movie about the
> team, when we run the table.
> _______________________________________________
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From eschoeman at sbcglobal.net  Wed Mar  9 11:42:54 2011
From: eschoeman at sbcglobal.net (Evans Schoeman)
Date: Wed Mar  9 11:42:59 2011
Subject: [NU Sports] Buckeyes in Hot Water with NCAA (Again)?
In-Reply-To: <3315874.1299688849468.JavaMail.root@wamui-cynical.atl.sa.earthlink.net>
References: <3315874.1299688849468.JavaMail.root@wamui-cynical.atl.sa.earthlink.net>
Message-ID: <579891.95333.qm@web83903.mail.sp1.yahoo.com>

Jim,

Checked with my friend, and he was mistaken:? his diploma does include the 
"The".

Here's the "official" university line...

========================================================

Why are we called ""THE" Ohio State University"?
In 1986, a new University logo was introduced in the hopes of moving away from 
the "OSU" symbol, which had been used since 1977. The change from simply "OSU" 
was said to "reflect the national stature of the institution." University 
officials wanted the institution to be known as "The Ohio State University," 
again, since OSU could also mean Oregon State and Oklahoma State University.

However, the "The" was actually part of the state legislation when the 
university was renamed in 1878. The following excerpt is from the Board of 
Trustee minutes: 

"...the educational institution heretofore known as the 'Ohio Agricultural and 
Mechanical College,' shall be known and designated hereafter as 'The Ohio State 
University.'"

Those who wanted the name change thought the original name was too narrow in 
scope, and that it was inadequate for the institution that was the only 
beneficiary of the land grant act. President Edward Orton was insistent that a 
new name would separate the institution from other colleges in Ohio. 


Legend also has it that "The" was used to show the other colleges which 
institution was supposed to be the leader in the state - both in size and in 
financial support from the legislature.


________________________________
From: Jim Bendat <thehaze@earthlink.net>
To: nwu-sports@tssi.com
Sent: Wed, March 9, 2011 10:40:49 AM
Subject: Re: [NU Sports] Buckeyes in Hot Water with NCAA (Again)?

I just took a look at my 1969 Rose Bowl program. That game was Ohio State vs. 
SC. On the title page (which would be the equivalent of page 3), it clearly says 
University of Southern California vs. The Ohio State University. - Jim B.


-----Original Message-----
>From: Evans Schoeman <eschoeman@sbcglobal.net>
>Sent: Mar 8, 2011 9:10 PM
>To: "Roy S. Lamberton" <rstetson@capps-assoc.com>, hakirsch@aol.com
>Cc: nwu-sports@tssi.com
>Subject: Re: [NU Sports] Buckeyes in Hot Water with NCAA (Again)?
>
>Was talking to a good friend who graduated from tOSU around 1970.? His diploma 
>says simply "Ohio State University".
>
>He thinks that the "The" was added to the school name sometime in the mid-80s.? 

>Not sure why, but it certainly gives outsiders something else to ridicule.
>
>
>
>
>
>________________________________
>From: Roy S. Lamberton <rstetson@capps-assoc.com>
>To: hakirsch@aol.com
>Cc: nwu-sports@tssi.com
>Sent: Tue, March 8, 2011 9:51:23 PM
>Subject: RE: [NU Sports] Buckeyes in Hot Water with NCAA (Again)?
>
>I'm adding the full list to this thread since we're talking about things that 
>partially
>originated here....
>
>I just remember that the AD while I was at NU (72-74) 
>
>1. Hired Tex Winter to coach baseketball
>2. Put in the Tartan Turf field at Dyche.
>
>In any case, when I was first doing Purple Reign for then Rivals, a few of our 
>posters
>both here and on the chat rooms there started mocking The Ohio State University 

>by
>abbreviating the name tOSU.
>
>After a year or so, the NCAA started making a lot of noise about graduation 
>rates, and
>published a rather damning document Football grad rate at about 40% and their 
>Baseketball
>rate at under 20%.
>
>I remember posting a commentary to the effect that until tOSU got those numbers 

>up above
>50%, I would call them d (for duh) OSU instead. It caught on among a few readers 
>
>- I think
>there are a couple of guys who still use it. 
>
>I was on the Bucknuts radio show talking about NU football one time, and my 
>appearance was
>questioned by some readers, stating that I used dOSU in my commentaries. Now 
>that I'm not
>writing much for sports, I've lost track of the grad rates at dOSU - are they 
>any better?
>
>rsl
>
>++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
>Roy S. Lamberton - Senior Associate & Unix Guru.
>Computer Applications & Support Associates
>-------------------- Also ----------------------
>"Commissioner" Delaware American Legion Baseball
>Director Media Relations - Little League 
>? Senior League Softball World Series
>CTRCS USN/USNR Retired
>Northwestern University - Speech 1974 - 
>Chi Phi: Pi 1974, KD 1968
>Publisher Emeritus: Purple Reign (Fox Sports)
>==========? Go Cats -? Beat 'em All? ===========
>"...Then I get on my knees and pray,
>WE DON'T GET FOOLED AGAIN!" -- Pete Townsend
>================================================
>
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: hakirsch@aol.com [mailto:hakirsch@aol.com] 
>Sent: Tuesday, March 08, 2011 7:41 PM
>To: Roy S. Lamberton
>Subject: Re: [NU Sports] Buckeyes in Hot Water with NCAA (Again)?
>
>Oh and Tippy Dye who was the AD at NU when you were there and was the QB at OSU 

>when my
>dad went there
>Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: "Roy S. Lamberton" <rstetson@capps-assoc.com>
>Date: Tue, 8 Mar 2011 19:34:05 
>To: <hakirsch@aol.com>
>Subject: RE: [NU Sports] Buckeyes in Hot Water with NCAA (Again)?
>
>Yes, dOSU actually comes from some NU alums referring to them as tOSU in posts.
>
>I changed the "t" to "d" when one of the NCAA reports on graduation came out 
>showing their
>lack of graduation prowess. I used to get roundly boiled by the dOSU alums on 
>the chat
>boards because I did that.
>
>Oh well, old news now that St. Tressel is about to be skewered.
>
>
>rsl
>
>
>
>++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
>Roy S. Lamberton - Senior Associate & Unix Guru.
>Computer Applications & Support Associates
>-------------------- Also ----------------------
>"Commissioner" Delaware American Legion Baseball
>Director Media Relations - Little League 
>? Senior League Softball World Series
>CTRCS USN/USNR Retired
>Northwestern University - Speech 1974 - 
>Chi Phi: Pi 1974, KD 1968
>Publisher Emeritus: Purple Reign (Fox Sports)
>==========? Go Cats -? Beat 'em All? ===========
>"...Then I get on my knees and pray,
>WE DON'T GET FOOLED AGAIN!" -- Pete Townsend
>================================================
>
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: hakirsch@aol.com [mailto:hakirsch@aol.com] 
>Sent: Tuesday, March 08, 2011 5:54 PM
>To: Roy S. Lamberton
>Subject: Re: [NU Sports] Buckeyes in Hot Water with NCAA (Again)?
>
>Funny.? When NFL players announce their ala mater they generally say The Ohio 
>State
>Univesity. So figured it derived from that. My late dad (today would be his? 
>94th b day)
>was an OSU grad and while he rooted for them, he despised their emphasis on 
>sports at the
>expense of academics 
>Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: "Roy S. Lamberton" <rstetson@capps-assoc.com>
>Date: Tue, 8 Mar 2011 17:49:30 
>To: <hakirsch@aol.com>
>Subject: RE: [NU Sports] Buckeyes in Hot Water with NCAA (Again)?
>
>D stands for Duh - as in Duh Ohio State University, home of graduation rates 
>under 50%.
>
>Can also stand for the Homeric (Simpson) Doh as in "Doh, OSU officials claimed 
>that they
>didn't know the guy had flunked out prior to the season." Or, "doh OSU 
>basketball team
>once again had a graduation rate under 50%." (which is what spurred the original 
>
>DuhOSU
>back on Scout/Rivals)
>
>It goes hand in hand with the Evil Empire for N**** D*** or MinnySoda, or many 
>of the
>derisive names that I have used over the years when referring to opponents.
>
>I think it goes back to when I was working at Oklahoma - when we were going to 
>"Shuffle
>off the Buffaloes" one season against Colorado.
>
>Remember that the original Purple Reign Chat Board had an official Grammar 
>Policeman,
>empowered to correct grammatical and spelling errors!
>
>rsl
>
>
>
>
>
>++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
>Roy S. Lamberton - Senior Associate & Unix Guru.
>Computer Applications & Support Associates
>-------------------- Also ----------------------
>"Commissioner" Delaware American Legion Baseball
>Director Media Relations - Little League 
>? Senior League Softball World Series
>CTRCS USN/USNR Retired
>Northwestern University - Speech 1974 - 
>Chi Phi: Pi 1974, KD 1968
>Publisher Emeritus: Purple Reign (Fox Sports)
>==========? Go Cats -? Beat 'em All? ===========
>"...Then I get on my knees and pray,
>WE DON'T GET FOOLED AGAIN!" -- Pete Townsend
>================================================
>
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: hakirsch@aol.com [mailto:hakirsch@aol.com] 
>Sent: Tuesday, March 08, 2011 5:42 PM
>To: Roy S. Lamberton
>Subject: Re: [NU Sports] Buckeyes in Hot Water with NCAA (Again)?
>
>D stands for The or De ?
>Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: "Roy S. Lamberton" <rstetson@capps-assoc.com>
>Sender: nwu-sports-bounces@tssi.com
>Date: Tue, 8 Mar 2011 17:39:15 
>To: <neonrye@aol.com>; <nwu-sports@romaine.tssi.com>
>Subject: RE: [NU Sports] Buckeyes in Hot Water with NCAA (Again)?
>
>Why I still refer to them as dOSU
>
>rsl
>
>++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
>Roy S. Lamberton - Senior Associate & Unix Guru.
>Computer Applications & Support Associates
>-------------------- Also ----------------------
>"Commissioner" Delaware American Legion Baseball
>Director Media Relations - Little League 
>? Senior League Softball World Series
>CTRCS USN/USNR Retired
>Northwestern University - Speech 1974 - 
>Chi Phi: Pi 1974, KD 1968
>Publisher Emeritus: Purple Reign (Fox Sports)
>==========? Go Cats -? Beat 'em All? ===========
>"...Then I get on my knees and pray,
>WE DON'T GET FOOLED AGAIN!" -- Pete Townsend
>================================================
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: nwu-sports-bounces@tssi.com [mailto:nwu-sports-bounces@tssi.com] On Behalf 
>
>Of
>neonrye@aol.com
>Sent: Tuesday, March 08, 2011 4:56 PM
>To: nwu-sports@romaine.tssi.com
>Subject: [NU Sports] Buckeyes in Hot Water with NCAA (Again)?
>
>
>It appears that St. Tressel may have known about the violations of NCAA Rules 
>involving
>Pryor and his mates--and not told the University, as he was contractually bound 

>to do, as
>per this ESPN online report:? 
>http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/news/story?id=6194133
>
>They are holding Press Conference at 7 p.m.? Stay tuned for "As The Buckeye 
>(Worm) Turns".
>
>
>Paul Levinson
>
>The
>
>
>
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From rstetson at capps-assoc.com  Wed Mar  9 12:06:16 2011
From: rstetson at capps-assoc.com (Roy S. Lamberton)
Date: Wed Mar  9 12:05:54 2011
Subject: [NU Sports] Buckeyes in Hot Water with NCAA (Again)?
In-Reply-To: <579891.95333.qm@web83903.mail.sp1.yahoo.com>
References: <3315874.1299688849468.JavaMail.root@wamui-cynical.atl.sa.earthlink.net>
	<579891.95333.qm@web83903.mail.sp1.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <001e01cbde84$af47d1c0$0dd77540$@com>

I like Ohio A & M myself.

Kinda like UNL for Nebraska?

rsl

++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
Roy S. Lamberton - Senior Associate & Unix Guru.
Computer Applications & Support Associates
-------------------- Also ----------------------
"Commissioner" Delaware American Legion Baseball
Director Media Relations - Little League 
  Senior League Softball World Series
CTRCS USN/USNR Retired
Northwestern University - Speech 1974 - 
Chi Phi: Pi 1974, KD 1968
Publisher Emeritus: Purple Reign (Fox Sports)
==========  Go Cats -? Beat 'em All  ===========
"...Then I get on my knees and pray,
WE DON'T GET FOOLED AGAIN!" -- Pete Townsend
================================================


-----Original Message-----
From: nwu-sports-bounces@tssi.com [mailto:nwu-sports-bounces@tssi.com] On Behalf Of Evans
Schoeman
Sent: Wednesday, March 09, 2011 12:43 PM
To: Jim Bendat; nwu-sports@tssi.com
Subject: Re: [NU Sports] Buckeyes in Hot Water with NCAA (Again)?

Jim,

Checked with my friend, and he was mistaken:? his diploma does include the 
"The".

Here's the "official" university line...

========================================================

Why are we called ""THE" Ohio State University"?
In 1986, a new University logo was introduced in the hopes of moving away from 
the "OSU" symbol, which had been used since 1977. The change from simply "OSU" 
was said to "reflect the national stature of the institution." University 
officials wanted the institution to be known as "The Ohio State University," 
again, since OSU could also mean Oregon State and Oklahoma State University.

However, the "The" was actually part of the state legislation when the 
university was renamed in 1878. The following excerpt is from the Board of 
Trustee minutes: 

"...the educational institution heretofore known as the 'Ohio Agricultural and 
Mechanical College,' shall be known and designated hereafter as 'The Ohio State 
University.'"

Those who wanted the name change thought the original name was too narrow in 
scope, and that it was inadequate for the institution that was the only 
beneficiary of the land grant act. President Edward Orton was insistent that a 
new name would separate the institution from other colleges in Ohio. 


Legend also has it that "The" was used to show the other colleges which 
institution was supposed to be the leader in the state - both in size and in 
financial support from the legislature.


________________________________
From: Jim Bendat <thehaze@earthlink.net>
To: nwu-sports@tssi.com
Sent: Wed, March 9, 2011 10:40:49 AM
Subject: Re: [NU Sports] Buckeyes in Hot Water with NCAA (Again)?

I just took a look at my 1969 Rose Bowl program. That game was Ohio State vs. 
SC. On the title page (which would be the equivalent of page 3), it clearly says 
University of Southern California vs. The Ohio State University. - Jim B.


-----Original Message-----
>From: Evans Schoeman <eschoeman@sbcglobal.net>
>Sent: Mar 8, 2011 9:10 PM
>To: "Roy S. Lamberton" <rstetson@capps-assoc.com>, hakirsch@aol.com
>Cc: nwu-sports@tssi.com
>Subject: Re: [NU Sports] Buckeyes in Hot Water with NCAA (Again)?
>
>Was talking to a good friend who graduated from tOSU around 1970.? His diploma 
>says simply "Ohio State University".
>
>He thinks that the "The" was added to the school name sometime in the mid-80s.? 

>Not sure why, but it certainly gives outsiders something else to ridicule.
>
>
>
>
>
>________________________________
>From: Roy S. Lamberton <rstetson@capps-assoc.com>
>To: hakirsch@aol.com
>Cc: nwu-sports@tssi.com
>Sent: Tue, March 8, 2011 9:51:23 PM
>Subject: RE: [NU Sports] Buckeyes in Hot Water with NCAA (Again)?
>
>I'm adding the full list to this thread since we're talking about things that 
>partially
>originated here....
>
>I just remember that the AD while I was at NU (72-74) 
>
>1. Hired Tex Winter to coach baseketball
>2. Put in the Tartan Turf field at Dyche.
>
>In any case, when I was first doing Purple Reign for then Rivals, a few of our 
>posters
>both here and on the chat rooms there started mocking The Ohio State University 

>by
>abbreviating the name tOSU.
>
>After a year or so, the NCAA started making a lot of noise about graduation 
>rates, and
>published a rather damning document Football grad rate at about 40% and their 
>Baseketball
>rate at under 20%.
>
>I remember posting a commentary to the effect that until tOSU got those numbers 

>up above
>50%, I would call them d (for duh) OSU instead. It caught on among a few readers 
>
>- I think
>there are a couple of guys who still use it. 
>
>I was on the Bucknuts radio show talking about NU football one time, and my 
>appearance was
>questioned by some readers, stating that I used dOSU in my commentaries. Now 
>that I'm not
>writing much for sports, I've lost track of the grad rates at dOSU - are they 
>any better?
>
>rsl
>
>++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
>Roy S. Lamberton - Senior Associate & Unix Guru.
>Computer Applications & Support Associates
>-------------------- Also ----------------------
>"Commissioner" Delaware American Legion Baseball
>Director Media Relations - Little League 
>? Senior League Softball World Series
>CTRCS USN/USNR Retired
>Northwestern University - Speech 1974 - 
>Chi Phi: Pi 1974, KD 1968
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>-----Original Message-----
>From: hakirsch@aol.com [mailto:hakirsch@aol.com] 
>Sent: Tuesday, March 08, 2011 7:41 PM
>To: Roy S. Lamberton
>Subject: Re: [NU Sports] Buckeyes in Hot Water with NCAA (Again)?
>
>Oh and Tippy Dye who was the AD at NU when you were there and was the QB at OSU 

>when my
>dad went there
>Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: "Roy S. Lamberton" <rstetson@capps-assoc.com>
>Date: Tue, 8 Mar 2011 19:34:05 
>To: <hakirsch@aol.com>
>Subject: RE: [NU Sports] Buckeyes in Hot Water with NCAA (Again)?
>
>Yes, dOSU actually comes from some NU alums referring to them as tOSU in posts.
>
>I changed the "t" to "d" when one of the NCAA reports on graduation came out 
>showing their
>lack of graduation prowess. I used to get roundly boiled by the dOSU alums on 
>the chat
>boards because I did that.
>
>Oh well, old news now that St. Tressel is about to be skewered.
>
>
>rsl
>
>
>
>++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
>Roy S. Lamberton - Senior Associate & Unix Guru.
>Computer Applications & Support Associates
>-------------------- Also ----------------------
>"Commissioner" Delaware American Legion Baseball
>Director Media Relations - Little League 
>? Senior League Softball World Series
>CTRCS USN/USNR Retired
>Northwestern University - Speech 1974 - 
>Chi Phi: Pi 1974, KD 1968
>Publisher Emeritus: Purple Reign (Fox Sports)
>==========? Go Cats -? Beat 'em All? ===========
>"...Then I get on my knees and pray,
>WE DON'T GET FOOLED AGAIN!" -- Pete Townsend
>================================================
>
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: hakirsch@aol.com [mailto:hakirsch@aol.com] 
>Sent: Tuesday, March 08, 2011 5:54 PM
>To: Roy S. Lamberton
>Subject: Re: [NU Sports] Buckeyes in Hot Water with NCAA (Again)?
>
>Funny.? When NFL players announce their ala mater they generally say The Ohio 
>State
>Univesity. So figured it derived from that. My late dad (today would be his? 
>94th b day)
>was an OSU grad and while he rooted for them, he despised their emphasis on 
>sports at the
>expense of academics 
>Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: "Roy S. Lamberton" <rstetson@capps-assoc.com>
>Date: Tue, 8 Mar 2011 17:49:30 
>To: <hakirsch@aol.com>
>Subject: RE: [NU Sports] Buckeyes in Hot Water with NCAA (Again)?
>
>D stands for Duh - as in Duh Ohio State University, home of graduation rates 
>under 50%.
>
>Can also stand for the Homeric (Simpson) Doh as in "Doh, OSU officials claimed 
>that they
>didn't know the guy had flunked out prior to the season." Or, "doh OSU 
>basketball team
>once again had a graduation rate under 50%." (which is what spurred the original 
>
>DuhOSU
>back on Scout/Rivals)
>
>It goes hand in hand with the Evil Empire for N**** D*** or MinnySoda, or many 
>of the
>derisive names that I have used over the years when referring to opponents.
>
>I think it goes back to when I was working at Oklahoma - when we were going to 
>"Shuffle
>off the Buffaloes" one season against Colorado.
>
>Remember that the original Purple Reign Chat Board had an official Grammar 
>Policeman,
>empowered to correct grammatical and spelling errors!
>
>rsl
>
>
>
>
>
>++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
>Roy S. Lamberton - Senior Associate & Unix Guru.
>Computer Applications & Support Associates
>-------------------- Also ----------------------
>"Commissioner" Delaware American Legion Baseball
>Director Media Relations - Little League 
>? Senior League Softball World Series
>CTRCS USN/USNR Retired
>Northwestern University - Speech 1974 - 
>Chi Phi: Pi 1974, KD 1968
>Publisher Emeritus: Purple Reign (Fox Sports)
>==========? Go Cats -? Beat 'em All? ===========
>"...Then I get on my knees and pray,
>WE DON'T GET FOOLED AGAIN!" -- Pete Townsend
>================================================
>
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: hakirsch@aol.com [mailto:hakirsch@aol.com] 
>Sent: Tuesday, March 08, 2011 5:42 PM
>To: Roy S. Lamberton
>Subject: Re: [NU Sports] Buckeyes in Hot Water with NCAA (Again)?
>
>D stands for The or De ?
>Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: "Roy S. Lamberton" <rstetson@capps-assoc.com>
>Sender: nwu-sports-bounces@tssi.com
>Date: Tue, 8 Mar 2011 17:39:15 
>To: <neonrye@aol.com>; <nwu-sports@romaine.tssi.com>
>Subject: RE: [NU Sports] Buckeyes in Hot Water with NCAA (Again)?
>
>Why I still refer to them as dOSU
>
>rsl
>
>++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
>Roy S. Lamberton - Senior Associate & Unix Guru.
>Computer Applications & Support Associates
>-------------------- Also ----------------------
>"Commissioner" Delaware American Legion Baseball
>Director Media Relations - Little League 
>? Senior League Softball World Series
>CTRCS USN/USNR Retired
>Northwestern University - Speech 1974 - 
>Chi Phi: Pi 1974, KD 1968
>Publisher Emeritus: Purple Reign (Fox Sports)
>==========? Go Cats -? Beat 'em All? ===========
>"...Then I get on my knees and pray,
>WE DON'T GET FOOLED AGAIN!" -- Pete Townsend
>================================================
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: nwu-sports-bounces@tssi.com [mailto:nwu-sports-bounces@tssi.com] On Behalf 
>
>Of
>neonrye@aol.com
>Sent: Tuesday, March 08, 2011 4:56 PM
>To: nwu-sports@romaine.tssi.com
>Subject: [NU Sports] Buckeyes in Hot Water with NCAA (Again)?
>
>
>It appears that St. Tressel may have known about the violations of NCAA Rules 
>involving
>Pryor and his mates--and not told the University, as he was contractually bound 

>to do, as
>per this ESPN online report:? 
>http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/news/story?id=6194133
>
>They are holding Press Conference at 7 p.m.? Stay tuned for "As The Buckeye 
>(Worm) Turns".
>
>
>Paul Levinson
>
>The
>
>
>
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From Jeff.Beamsley at covisint.com  Wed Mar  9 12:28:46 2011
From: Jeff.Beamsley at covisint.com (Beamsley, Jeff)
Date: Wed Mar  9 12:29:07 2011
Subject: [NU Sports] Buckeyes in Hot Water with NCAA (Again)?
In-Reply-To: <000001cbde76$f55114f0$dff33ed0$@com>
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I don't care.

I like the fact that Otis Sistrunk gained a reputation from being from
the University of Mars because of a misinterpretation in the team guide
listing him as being a marine (US Mars)

I'm glad our guys are proud to claim NU as their alma mater, but I think
the pro's have earned the right to say pretty much whatever they want,
as long as it is acceptable in polite company.

Jeff


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From: nwu-sports-bounces@tssi.com [mailto:nwu-sports-bounces@tssi.com]
On Behalf Of Roy S. Lamberton
Sent: Wednesday, March 09, 2011 11:28 AM
To: 'Evans Schoeman'; hakirsch@aol.com
Cc: nwu-sports@tssi.com
Subject: RE: [NU Sports] Buckeyes in Hot Water with NCAA (Again)?

2 questions:

 

1.     Do today's diplomas say "The Ohio State University"

2.     Which of the coaches would be guilty of starting the players
saying The OSU as a
way of setting themselves apart.

 

I still don't "get" the idea of saying your High School, or neighborhood
during
introductions. At least most of our guys say Northwestern like they are
reasonably proud
of the institution.

 

rsl

 

++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

Roy S. Lamberton - Senior Associate & Unix Guru.

Computer Applications & Support Associates

-------------------- Also ----------------------

"Commissioner" Delaware American Legion Baseball

Director Media Relations - Little League 

  Senior League Softball World Series

CTRCS USN/USNR Retired

Northwestern University - Speech 1974 - 

Chi Phi: Pi 1974, KD 1968

Publisher Emeritus: Purple Reign (Fox Sports)

==========  Go Cats -  Beat 'em All  ===========

"...Then I get on my knees and pray,

WE DON'T GET FOOLED AGAIN!" -- Pete Townsend

================================================

 

From: Evans Schoeman [mailto:eschoeman@sbcglobal.net] 
Sent: Wednesday, March 09, 2011 12:11 AM
To: Roy S. Lamberton; hakirsch@aol.com
Cc: nwu-sports@tssi.com
Subject: Re: [NU Sports] Buckeyes in Hot Water with NCAA (Again)?

 

Was talking to a good friend who graduated from tOSU around 1970.  His
diploma says simply
"Ohio State University".

He thinks that the "The" was added to the school name sometime in the
mid-80s.  Not sure
why, but it certainly gives outsiders something else to ridicule.

 

  _____  

From: Roy S. Lamberton <rstetson@capps-assoc.com>
To: hakirsch@aol.com
Cc: nwu-sports@tssi.com
Sent: Tue, March 8, 2011 9:51:23 PM
Subject: RE: [NU Sports] Buckeyes in Hot Water with NCAA (Again)?

I'm adding the full list to this thread since we're talking about things
that partially
originated here....

I just remember that the AD while I was at NU (72-74) 

1. Hired Tex Winter to coach baseketball
2. Put in the Tartan Turf field at Dyche.

In any case, when I was first doing Purple Reign for then Rivals, a few
of our posters
both here and on the chat rooms there started mocking The Ohio State
University by
abbreviating the name tOSU.

After a year or so, the NCAA started making a lot of noise about
graduation rates, and
published a rather damning document Football grad rate at about 40% and
their Baseketball
rate at under 20%.

I remember posting a commentary to the effect that until tOSU got those
numbers up above
50%, I would call them d (for duh) OSU instead. It caught on among a few
readers - I think
there are a couple of guys who still use it. 

I was on the Bucknuts radio show talking about NU football one time, and
my appearance was
questioned by some readers, stating that I used dOSU in my commentaries.
Now that I'm not
writing much for sports, I've lost track of the grad rates at dOSU - are
they any better?

rsl

++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
Roy S. Lamberton - Senior Associate & Unix Guru.
Computer Applications & Support Associates
-------------------- Also ----------------------
"Commissioner" Delaware American Legion Baseball
Director Media Relations - Little League 
  Senior League Softball World Series
CTRCS USN/USNR Retired
Northwestern University - Speech 1974 - 
Chi Phi: Pi 1974, KD 1968
Publisher Emeritus: Purple Reign (Fox Sports)
==========  Go Cats -  Beat 'em All  ===========
"...Then I get on my knees and pray,
WE DON'T GET FOOLED AGAIN!" -- Pete Townsend
================================================


-----Original Message-----
From: hakirsch@aol.com [mailto:hakirsch@aol.com] 
Sent: Tuesday, March 08, 2011 7:41 PM
To: Roy S. Lamberton
Subject: Re: [NU Sports] Buckeyes in Hot Water with NCAA (Again)?

Oh and Tippy Dye who was the AD at NU when you were there and was the QB
at OSU when my
dad went there
Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry

-----Original Message-----
From: "Roy S. Lamberton" <rstetson@capps-assoc.com>
Date: Tue, 8 Mar 2011 19:34:05 
To: <hakirsch@aol.com>
Subject: RE: [NU Sports] Buckeyes in Hot Water with NCAA (Again)?

Yes, dOSU actually comes from some NU alums referring to them as tOSU in
posts.

I changed the "t" to "d" when one of the NCAA reports on graduation came
out showing their
lack of graduation prowess. I used to get roundly boiled by the dOSU
alums on the chat
boards because I did that.

Oh well, old news now that St. Tressel is about to be skewered.


rsl



++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
Roy S. Lamberton - Senior Associate & Unix Guru.
Computer Applications & Support Associates
-------------------- Also ----------------------
"Commissioner" Delaware American Legion Baseball
Director Media Relations - Little League 
  Senior League Softball World Series
CTRCS USN/USNR Retired
Northwestern University - Speech 1974 - 
Chi Phi: Pi 1974, KD 1968
Publisher Emeritus: Purple Reign (Fox Sports)
==========  Go Cats -  Beat 'em All  ===========
"...Then I get on my knees and pray,
WE DON'T GET FOOLED AGAIN!" -- Pete Townsend
================================================


-----Original Message-----
From: hakirsch@aol.com [mailto:hakirsch@aol.com] 
Sent: Tuesday, March 08, 2011 5:54 PM
To: Roy S. Lamberton
Subject: Re: [NU Sports] Buckeyes in Hot Water with NCAA (Again)?

Funny.  When NFL players announce their ala mater they generally say The
Ohio State
Univesity. So figured it derived from that. My late dad (today would be
his  94th b day)
was an OSU grad and while he rooted for them, he despised their emphasis
on sports at the
expense of academics 
Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry

-----Original Message-----
From: "Roy S. Lamberton" <rstetson@capps-assoc.com>
Date: Tue, 8 Mar 2011 17:49:30 
To: <hakirsch@aol.com>
Subject: RE: [NU Sports] Buckeyes in Hot Water with NCAA (Again)?

D stands for Duh - as in Duh Ohio State University, home of graduation
rates under 50%.

Can also stand for the Homeric (Simpson) Doh as in "Doh, OSU officials
claimed that they
didn't know the guy had flunked out prior to the season." Or, "doh OSU
basketball team
once again had a graduation rate under 50%." (which is what spurred the
original DuhOSU
back on Scout/Rivals)

It goes hand in hand with the Evil Empire for N**** D*** or MinnySoda,
or many of the
derisive names that I have used over the years when referring to
opponents.

I think it goes back to when I was working at Oklahoma - when we were
going to "Shuffle
off the Buffaloes" one season against Colorado.

Remember that the original Purple Reign Chat Board had an official
Grammar Policeman,
empowered to correct grammatical and spelling errors!

rsl





++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
Roy S. Lamberton - Senior Associate & Unix Guru.
Computer Applications & Support Associates
-------------------- Also ----------------------
"Commissioner" Delaware American Legion Baseball
Director Media Relations - Little League 
  Senior League Softball World Series
CTRCS USN/USNR Retired
Northwestern University - Speech 1974 - 
Chi Phi: Pi 1974, KD 1968
Publisher Emeritus: Purple Reign (Fox Sports)
==========  Go Cats -  Beat 'em All  ===========
"...Then I get on my knees and pray,
WE DON'T GET FOOLED AGAIN!" -- Pete Townsend
================================================


-----Original Message-----
From: hakirsch@aol.com [mailto:hakirsch@aol.com] 
Sent: Tuesday, March 08, 2011 5:42 PM
To: Roy S. Lamberton
Subject: Re: [NU Sports] Buckeyes in Hot Water with NCAA (Again)?

D stands for The or De ?
Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry

-----Original Message-----
From: "Roy S. Lamberton" <rstetson@capps-assoc.com>
Sender: nwu-sports-bounces@tssi.com
Date: Tue, 8 Mar 2011 17:39:15 
To: <neonrye@aol.com>; <nwu-sports@romaine.tssi.com>
Subject: RE: [NU Sports] Buckeyes in Hot Water with NCAA (Again)?

Why I still refer to them as dOSU

rsl

++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
Roy S. Lamberton - Senior Associate & Unix Guru.
Computer Applications & Support Associates
-------------------- Also ----------------------
"Commissioner" Delaware American Legion Baseball
Director Media Relations - Little League 
  Senior League Softball World Series
CTRCS USN/USNR Retired
Northwestern University - Speech 1974 - 
Chi Phi: Pi 1974, KD 1968
Publisher Emeritus: Purple Reign (Fox Sports)
==========  Go Cats -  Beat 'em All  ===========
"...Then I get on my knees and pray,
WE DON'T GET FOOLED AGAIN!" -- Pete Townsend
================================================

-----Original Message-----
From: nwu-sports-bounces@tssi.com [mailto:nwu-sports-bounces@tssi.com]
On Behalf Of
neonrye@aol.com
Sent: Tuesday, March 08, 2011 4:56 PM
To: nwu-sports@romaine.tssi.com
Subject: [NU Sports] Buckeyes in Hot Water with NCAA (Again)?


It appears that St. Tressel may have known about the violations of NCAA
Rules involving
Pryor and his mates--and not told the University, as he was
contractually bound to do, as
per this ESPN online report:
http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/news/story?id=6194133

They are holding Press Conference at 7 p.m.  Stay tuned for "As The
Buckeye (Worm) Turns".


Paul Levinson

The



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From neonrye at aol.com  Wed Mar  9 12:36:06 2011
From: neonrye at aol.com (neonrye@aol.com)
Date: Wed Mar  9 12:33:16 2011
Subject: [NU Sports] Buckeyes in Hot Water with NCAA (Again)?
In-Reply-To: <001e01cbde84$af47d1c0$0dd77540$@com>
References: <3315874.1299688849468.JavaMail.root@wamui-cynical.atl.sa.earthlink.net><579891.95333.qm@web83903.mail.sp1.yahoo.com><001e01cbde84$af47d1c0$0dd77540$@com>
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How about this one:

lsatOSU (Low SAT Ohio State University, Low Standards Athletics Ohio State University  and/or Low Standards Admission Ohio State University).  If the "Shoe" fits....

Paul Levinson
Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry

-----Original Message-----
From: "Roy S. Lamberton" <rstetson@capps-assoc.com>
Sender: nwu-sports-bounces@tssi.com
Date: Wed, 9 Mar 2011 13:06:16 
To: 'Evans Schoeman'<eschoeman@sbcglobal.net>; 'Jim Bendat'<thehaze@earthlink.net>; <nwu-sports@tssi.com>
Subject: RE: [NU Sports] Buckeyes in Hot Water with NCAA (Again)?

I like Ohio A & M myself.

Kinda like UNL for Nebraska?

rsl

++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
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Computer Applications & Support Associates
-------------------- Also ----------------------
"Commissioner" Delaware American Legion Baseball
Director Media Relations - Little League 
  Senior League Softball World Series
CTRCS USN/USNR Retired
Northwestern University - Speech 1974 - 
Chi Phi: Pi 1974, KD 1968
Publisher Emeritus: Purple Reign (Fox Sports)
==========  Go Cats -? Beat 'em All  ===========
"...Then I get on my knees and pray,
WE DON'T GET FOOLED AGAIN!" -- Pete Townsend
================================================


-----Original Message-----
From: nwu-sports-bounces@tssi.com [mailto:nwu-sports-bounces@tssi.com] On Behalf Of Evans
Schoeman
Sent: Wednesday, March 09, 2011 12:43 PM
To: Jim Bendat; nwu-sports@tssi.com
Subject: Re: [NU Sports] Buckeyes in Hot Water with NCAA (Again)?

Jim,

Checked with my friend, and he was mistaken:? his diploma does include the 
"The".

Here's the "official" university line...

========================================================

Why are we called ""THE" Ohio State University"?
In 1986, a new University logo was introduced in the hopes of moving away from 
the "OSU" symbol, which had been used since 1977. The change from simply "OSU" 
was said to "reflect the national stature of the institution." University 
officials wanted the institution to be known as "The Ohio State University," 
again, since OSU could also mean Oregon State and Oklahoma State University.

However, the "The" was actually part of the state legislation when the 
university was renamed in 1878. The following excerpt is from the Board of 
Trustee minutes: 

"...the educational institution heretofore known as the 'Ohio Agricultural and 
Mechanical College,' shall be known and designated hereafter as 'The Ohio State 
University.'"

Those who wanted the name change thought the original name was too narrow in 
scope, and that it was inadequate for the institution that was the only 
beneficiary of the land grant act. President Edward Orton was insistent that a 
new name would separate the institution from other colleges in Ohio. 


Legend also has it that "The" was used to show the other colleges which 
institution was supposed to be the leader in the state - both in size and in 
financial support from the legislature.


________________________________
From: Jim Bendat <thehaze@earthlink.net>
To: nwu-sports@tssi.com
Sent: Wed, March 9, 2011 10:40:49 AM
Subject: Re: [NU Sports] Buckeyes in Hot Water with NCAA (Again)?

I just took a look at my 1969 Rose Bowl program. That game was Ohio State vs. 
SC. On the title page (which would be the equivalent of page 3), it clearly says 
University of Southern California vs. The Ohio State University. - Jim B.


-----Original Message-----
>From: Evans Schoeman <eschoeman@sbcglobal.net>
>Sent: Mar 8, 2011 9:10 PM
>To: "Roy S. Lamberton" <rstetson@capps-assoc.com>, hakirsch@aol.com
>Cc: nwu-sports@tssi.com
>Subject: Re: [NU Sports] Buckeyes in Hot Water with NCAA (Again)?
>
>Was talking to a good friend who graduated from tOSU around 1970.? His diploma 
>says simply "Ohio State University".
>
>He thinks that the "The" was added to the school name sometime in the mid-80s.? 

>Not sure why, but it certainly gives outsiders something else to ridicule.
>
>
>
>
>
>________________________________
>From: Roy S. Lamberton <rstetson@capps-assoc.com>
>To: hakirsch@aol.com
>Cc: nwu-sports@tssi.com
>Sent: Tue, March 8, 2011 9:51:23 PM
>Subject: RE: [NU Sports] Buckeyes in Hot Water with NCAA (Again)?
>
>I'm adding the full list to this thread since we're talking about things that 
>partially
>originated here....
>
>I just remember that the AD while I was at NU (72-74) 
>
>1. Hired Tex Winter to coach baseketball
>2. Put in the Tartan Turf field at Dyche.
>
>In any case, when I was first doing Purple Reign for then Rivals, a few of our 
>posters
>both here and on the chat rooms there started mocking The Ohio State University 

>by
>abbreviating the name tOSU.
>
>After a year or so, the NCAA started making a lot of noise about graduation 
>rates, and
>published a rather damning document Football grad rate at about 40% and their 
>Baseketball
>rate at under 20%.
>
>I remember posting a commentary to the effect that until tOSU got those numbers 

>up above
>50%, I would call them d (for duh) OSU instead. It caught on among a few readers 
>
>- I think
>there are a couple of guys who still use it. 
>
>I was on the Bucknuts radio show talking about NU football one time, and my 
>appearance was
>questioned by some readers, stating that I used dOSU in my commentaries. Now 
>that I'm not
>writing much for sports, I've lost track of the grad rates at dOSU - are they 
>any better?
>
>rsl
>
>++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
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>Computer Applications & Support Associates
>-------------------- Also ----------------------
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>Director Media Relations - Little League 
>? Senior League Softball World Series
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>Northwestern University - Speech 1974 - 
>Chi Phi: Pi 1974, KD 1968
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>-----Original Message-----
>From: hakirsch@aol.com [mailto:hakirsch@aol.com] 
>Sent: Tuesday, March 08, 2011 7:41 PM
>To: Roy S. Lamberton
>Subject: Re: [NU Sports] Buckeyes in Hot Water with NCAA (Again)?
>
>Oh and Tippy Dye who was the AD at NU when you were there and was the QB at OSU 

>when my
>dad went there
>Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: "Roy S. Lamberton" <rstetson@capps-assoc.com>
>Date: Tue, 8 Mar 2011 19:34:05 
>To: <hakirsch@aol.com>
>Subject: RE: [NU Sports] Buckeyes in Hot Water with NCAA (Again)?
>
>Yes, dOSU actually comes from some NU alums referring to them as tOSU in posts.
>
>I changed the "t" to "d" when one of the NCAA reports on graduation came out 
>showing their
>lack of graduation prowess. I used to get roundly boiled by the dOSU alums on 
>the chat
>boards because I did that.
>
>Oh well, old news now that St. Tressel is about to be skewered.
>
>
>rsl
>
>
>
>++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
>Roy S. Lamberton - Senior Associate & Unix Guru.
>Computer Applications & Support Associates
>-------------------- Also ----------------------
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>Director Media Relations - Little League 
>? Senior League Softball World Series
>CTRCS USN/USNR Retired
>Northwestern University - Speech 1974 - 
>Chi Phi: Pi 1974, KD 1968
>Publisher Emeritus: Purple Reign (Fox Sports)
>==========? Go Cats -? Beat 'em All? ===========
>"...Then I get on my knees and pray,
>WE DON'T GET FOOLED AGAIN!" -- Pete Townsend
>================================================
>
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: hakirsch@aol.com [mailto:hakirsch@aol.com] 
>Sent: Tuesday, March 08, 2011 5:54 PM
>To: Roy S. Lamberton
>Subject: Re: [NU Sports] Buckeyes in Hot Water with NCAA (Again)?
>
>Funny.? When NFL players announce their ala mater they generally say The Ohio 
>State
>Univesity. So figured it derived from that. My late dad (today would be his? 
>94th b day)
>was an OSU grad and while he rooted for them, he despised their emphasis on 
>sports at the
>expense of academics 
>Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: "Roy S. Lamberton" <rstetson@capps-assoc.com>
>Date: Tue, 8 Mar 2011 17:49:30 
>To: <hakirsch@aol.com>
>Subject: RE: [NU Sports] Buckeyes in Hot Water with NCAA (Again)?
>
>D stands for Duh - as in Duh Ohio State University, home of graduation rates 
>under 50%.
>
>Can also stand for the Homeric (Simpson) Doh as in "Doh, OSU officials claimed 
>that they
>didn't know the guy had flunked out prior to the season." Or, "doh OSU 
>basketball team
>once again had a graduation rate under 50%." (which is what spurred the original 
>
>DuhOSU
>back on Scout/Rivals)
>
>It goes hand in hand with the Evil Empire for N**** D*** or MinnySoda, or many 
>of the
>derisive names that I have used over the years when referring to opponents.
>
>I think it goes back to when I was working at Oklahoma - when we were going to 
>"Shuffle
>off the Buffaloes" one season against Colorado.
>
>Remember that the original Purple Reign Chat Board had an official Grammar 
>Policeman,
>empowered to correct grammatical and spelling errors!
>
>rsl
>
>
>
>
>
>++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
>Roy S. Lamberton - Senior Associate & Unix Guru.
>Computer Applications & Support Associates
>-------------------- Also ----------------------
>"Commissioner" Delaware American Legion Baseball
>Director Media Relations - Little League 
>? Senior League Softball World Series
>CTRCS USN/USNR Retired
>Northwestern University - Speech 1974 - 
>Chi Phi: Pi 1974, KD 1968
>Publisher Emeritus: Purple Reign (Fox Sports)
>==========? Go Cats -? Beat 'em All? ===========
>"...Then I get on my knees and pray,
>WE DON'T GET FOOLED AGAIN!" -- Pete Townsend
>================================================
>
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: hakirsch@aol.com [mailto:hakirsch@aol.com] 
>Sent: Tuesday, March 08, 2011 5:42 PM
>To: Roy S. Lamberton
>Subject: Re: [NU Sports] Buckeyes in Hot Water with NCAA (Again)?
>
>D stands for The or De ?
>Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: "Roy S. Lamberton" <rstetson@capps-assoc.com>
>Sender: nwu-sports-bounces@tssi.com
>Date: Tue, 8 Mar 2011 17:39:15 
>To: <neonrye@aol.com>; <nwu-sports@romaine.tssi.com>
>Subject: RE: [NU Sports] Buckeyes in Hot Water with NCAA (Again)?
>
>Why I still refer to them as dOSU
>
>rsl
>
>++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
>Roy S. Lamberton - Senior Associate & Unix Guru.
>Computer Applications & Support Associates
>-------------------- Also ----------------------
>"Commissioner" Delaware American Legion Baseball
>Director Media Relations - Little League 
>? Senior League Softball World Series
>CTRCS USN/USNR Retired
>Northwestern University - Speech 1974 - 
>Chi Phi: Pi 1974, KD 1968
>Publisher Emeritus: Purple Reign (Fox Sports)
>==========? Go Cats -? Beat 'em All? ===========
>"...Then I get on my knees and pray,
>WE DON'T GET FOOLED AGAIN!" -- Pete Townsend
>================================================
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: nwu-sports-bounces@tssi.com [mailto:nwu-sports-bounces@tssi.com] On Behalf 
>
>Of
>neonrye@aol.com
>Sent: Tuesday, March 08, 2011 4:56 PM
>To: nwu-sports@romaine.tssi.com
>Subject: [NU Sports] Buckeyes in Hot Water with NCAA (Again)?
>
>
>It appears that St. Tressel may have known about the violations of NCAA Rules 
>involving
>Pryor and his mates--and not told the University, as he was contractually bound 

>to do, as
>per this ESPN online report:? 
>http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/news/story?id=6194133
>
>They are holding Press Conference at 7 p.m.? Stay tuned for "As The Buckeye 
>(Worm) Turns".
>
>
>Paul Levinson
>
>The
>
>
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From MHRJGScott at aol.com  Wed Mar  9 12:40:44 2011
From: MHRJGScott at aol.com (MHRJGScott@aol.com)
Date: Wed Mar  9 12:40:49 2011
Subject: [NU Sports] Buckeyes in Hot Water with NCAA (Again)?
Message-ID: <75a20.129d16b2.3aa923ac@aol.com>

dOSU is so annoying like people from NY who like to point out that the  
Bronx is the only city that starts with the.
From rstetson at capps-assoc.com  Wed Mar  9 13:05:45 2011
From: rstetson at capps-assoc.com (Roy S. Lamberton)
Date: Wed Mar  9 13:05:31 2011
Subject: [NU Sports] Buckeyes in Hot Water with NCAA (Again)?
In-Reply-To: <FA7822545C26F244823CA5D312ABBDEA06BA4733@nasa-dtw-ex006.nasa.cpwr.corp>
References: <8CDABF2C3595F08-23FC-AA24@webmail-d082.sysops.aol.com><002d01cbdde1$a7d90970$f78b1c50$@com><406156878-1299624149-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-1686661432-@bda2184.bisx.prod.on.blackberry><003701cbdde3$1633cf80$429b6e80$@com><1138248543-1299624845-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-701218467-@bda2184.bisx.prod.on.blackberry><003f01cbddf1$b23c3c60$16b4b520$@com><1778920849-1299631439-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-1414770109-@bda2184.bisx.prod.on.blackberry><005001cbde0d$4279a2c0$c76ce840$@com><381868.76884.qm@web83910.mail.sp1.yahoo.com>
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Message-ID: <001501cbde8d$01ac1180$05043480$@com>

Those of us who served with Marines thought some of the junior officers were from Mars... ;-[)

Not time for one of the Marine stories, but a toy bike horn figures into the equasion.

rsl



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Northwestern University - Speech 1974 - 
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-----Original Message-----
From: Beamsley, Jeff [mailto:Jeff.Beamsley@covisint.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, March 09, 2011 1:29 PM
To: Roy S. Lamberton; Evans Schoeman; hakirsch@aol.com
Cc: nwu-sports@tssi.com
Subject: RE: [NU Sports] Buckeyes in Hot Water with NCAA (Again)?

I don't care.

I like the fact that Otis Sistrunk gained a reputation from being from
the University of Mars because of a misinterpretation in the team guide
listing him as being a marine (US Mars)

I'm glad our guys are proud to claim NU as their alma mater, but I think
the pro's have earned the right to say pretty much whatever they want,
as long as it is acceptable in polite company.

Jeff


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From: nwu-sports-bounces@tssi.com [mailto:nwu-sports-bounces@tssi.com]
On Behalf Of Roy S. Lamberton
Sent: Wednesday, March 09, 2011 11:28 AM
To: 'Evans Schoeman'; hakirsch@aol.com
Cc: nwu-sports@tssi.com
Subject: RE: [NU Sports] Buckeyes in Hot Water with NCAA (Again)?

2 questions:

 

1.     Do today's diplomas say "The Ohio State University"

2.     Which of the coaches would be guilty of starting the players
saying The OSU as a
way of setting themselves apart.

 

I still don't "get" the idea of saying your High School, or neighborhood
during
introductions. At least most of our guys say Northwestern like they are
reasonably proud
of the institution.

 

rsl

 

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Computer Applications & Support Associates

-------------------- Also ----------------------

"Commissioner" Delaware American Legion Baseball

Director Media Relations - Little League 

  Senior League Softball World Series

CTRCS USN/USNR Retired

Northwestern University - Speech 1974 - 

Chi Phi: Pi 1974, KD 1968

Publisher Emeritus: Purple Reign (Fox Sports)

==========  Go Cats -  Beat 'em All  ===========

"...Then I get on my knees and pray,

WE DON'T GET FOOLED AGAIN!" -- Pete Townsend

================================================

 

From: Evans Schoeman [mailto:eschoeman@sbcglobal.net] 
Sent: Wednesday, March 09, 2011 12:11 AM
To: Roy S. Lamberton; hakirsch@aol.com
Cc: nwu-sports@tssi.com
Subject: Re: [NU Sports] Buckeyes in Hot Water with NCAA (Again)?

 

Was talking to a good friend who graduated from tOSU around 1970.  His
diploma says simply
"Ohio State University".

He thinks that the "The" was added to the school name sometime in the
mid-80s.  Not sure
why, but it certainly gives outsiders something else to ridicule.

 

  _____  

From: Roy S. Lamberton <rstetson@capps-assoc.com>
To: hakirsch@aol.com
Cc: nwu-sports@tssi.com
Sent: Tue, March 8, 2011 9:51:23 PM
Subject: RE: [NU Sports] Buckeyes in Hot Water with NCAA (Again)?

I'm adding the full list to this thread since we're talking about things
that partially
originated here....

I just remember that the AD while I was at NU (72-74) 

1. Hired Tex Winter to coach baseketball
2. Put in the Tartan Turf field at Dyche.

In any case, when I was first doing Purple Reign for then Rivals, a few
of our posters
both here and on the chat rooms there started mocking The Ohio State
University by
abbreviating the name tOSU.

After a year or so, the NCAA started making a lot of noise about
graduation rates, and
published a rather damning document Football grad rate at about 40% and
their Baseketball
rate at under 20%.

I remember posting a commentary to the effect that until tOSU got those
numbers up above
50%, I would call them d (for duh) OSU instead. It caught on among a few
readers - I think
there are a couple of guys who still use it. 

I was on the Bucknuts radio show talking about NU football one time, and
my appearance was
questioned by some readers, stating that I used dOSU in my commentaries.
Now that I'm not
writing much for sports, I've lost track of the grad rates at dOSU - are
they any better?

rsl

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Computer Applications & Support Associates
-------------------- Also ----------------------
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Director Media Relations - Little League 
  Senior League Softball World Series
CTRCS USN/USNR Retired
Northwestern University - Speech 1974 - 
Chi Phi: Pi 1974, KD 1968
Publisher Emeritus: Purple Reign (Fox Sports)
==========  Go Cats -  Beat 'em All  ===========
"...Then I get on my knees and pray,
WE DON'T GET FOOLED AGAIN!" -- Pete Townsend
================================================


-----Original Message-----
From: hakirsch@aol.com [mailto:hakirsch@aol.com] 
Sent: Tuesday, March 08, 2011 7:41 PM
To: Roy S. Lamberton
Subject: Re: [NU Sports] Buckeyes in Hot Water with NCAA (Again)?

Oh and Tippy Dye who was the AD at NU when you were there and was the QB
at OSU when my
dad went there
Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry

-----Original Message-----
From: "Roy S. Lamberton" <rstetson@capps-assoc.com>
Date: Tue, 8 Mar 2011 19:34:05 
To: <hakirsch@aol.com>
Subject: RE: [NU Sports] Buckeyes in Hot Water with NCAA (Again)?

Yes, dOSU actually comes from some NU alums referring to them as tOSU in
posts.

I changed the "t" to "d" when one of the NCAA reports on graduation came
out showing their
lack of graduation prowess. I used to get roundly boiled by the dOSU
alums on the chat
boards because I did that.

Oh well, old news now that St. Tressel is about to be skewered.


rsl



++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
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Computer Applications & Support Associates
-------------------- Also ----------------------
"Commissioner" Delaware American Legion Baseball
Director Media Relations - Little League 
  Senior League Softball World Series
CTRCS USN/USNR Retired
Northwestern University - Speech 1974 - 
Chi Phi: Pi 1974, KD 1968
Publisher Emeritus: Purple Reign (Fox Sports)
==========  Go Cats -  Beat 'em All  ===========
"...Then I get on my knees and pray,
WE DON'T GET FOOLED AGAIN!" -- Pete Townsend
================================================


-----Original Message-----
From: hakirsch@aol.com [mailto:hakirsch@aol.com] 
Sent: Tuesday, March 08, 2011 5:54 PM
To: Roy S. Lamberton
Subject: Re: [NU Sports] Buckeyes in Hot Water with NCAA (Again)?

Funny.  When NFL players announce their ala mater they generally say The
Ohio State
Univesity. So figured it derived from that. My late dad (today would be
his  94th b day)
was an OSU grad and while he rooted for them, he despised their emphasis
on sports at the
expense of academics 
Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry

-----Original Message-----
From: "Roy S. Lamberton" <rstetson@capps-assoc.com>
Date: Tue, 8 Mar 2011 17:49:30 
To: <hakirsch@aol.com>
Subject: RE: [NU Sports] Buckeyes in Hot Water with NCAA (Again)?

D stands for Duh - as in Duh Ohio State University, home of graduation
rates under 50%.

Can also stand for the Homeric (Simpson) Doh as in "Doh, OSU officials
claimed that they
didn't know the guy had flunked out prior to the season." Or, "doh OSU
basketball team
once again had a graduation rate under 50%." (which is what spurred the
original DuhOSU
back on Scout/Rivals)

It goes hand in hand with the Evil Empire for N**** D*** or MinnySoda,
or many of the
derisive names that I have used over the years when referring to
opponents.

I think it goes back to when I was working at Oklahoma - when we were
going to "Shuffle
off the Buffaloes" one season against Colorado.

Remember that the original Purple Reign Chat Board had an official
Grammar Policeman,
empowered to correct grammatical and spelling errors!

rsl





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Roy S. Lamberton - Senior Associate & Unix Guru.
Computer Applications & Support Associates
-------------------- Also ----------------------
"Commissioner" Delaware American Legion Baseball
Director Media Relations - Little League 
  Senior League Softball World Series
CTRCS USN/USNR Retired
Northwestern University - Speech 1974 - 
Chi Phi: Pi 1974, KD 1968
Publisher Emeritus: Purple Reign (Fox Sports)
==========  Go Cats -  Beat 'em All  ===========
"...Then I get on my knees and pray,
WE DON'T GET FOOLED AGAIN!" -- Pete Townsend
================================================


-----Original Message-----
From: hakirsch@aol.com [mailto:hakirsch@aol.com] 
Sent: Tuesday, March 08, 2011 5:42 PM
To: Roy S. Lamberton
Subject: Re: [NU Sports] Buckeyes in Hot Water with NCAA (Again)?

D stands for The or De ?
Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry

-----Original Message-----
From: "Roy S. Lamberton" <rstetson@capps-assoc.com>
Sender: nwu-sports-bounces@tssi.com
Date: Tue, 8 Mar 2011 17:39:15 
To: <neonrye@aol.com>; <nwu-sports@romaine.tssi.com>
Subject: RE: [NU Sports] Buckeyes in Hot Water with NCAA (Again)?

Why I still refer to them as dOSU

rsl

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Computer Applications & Support Associates
-------------------- Also ----------------------
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Director Media Relations - Little League 
  Senior League Softball World Series
CTRCS USN/USNR Retired
Northwestern University - Speech 1974 - 
Chi Phi: Pi 1974, KD 1968
Publisher Emeritus: Purple Reign (Fox Sports)
==========  Go Cats -  Beat 'em All  ===========
"...Then I get on my knees and pray,
WE DON'T GET FOOLED AGAIN!" -- Pete Townsend
================================================

-----Original Message-----
From: nwu-sports-bounces@tssi.com [mailto:nwu-sports-bounces@tssi.com]
On Behalf Of
neonrye@aol.com
Sent: Tuesday, March 08, 2011 4:56 PM
To: nwu-sports@romaine.tssi.com
Subject: [NU Sports] Buckeyes in Hot Water with NCAA (Again)?


It appears that St. Tressel may have known about the violations of NCAA
Rules involving
Pryor and his mates--and not told the University, as he was
contractually bound to do, as
per this ESPN online report:
http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/news/story?id=6194133

They are holding Press Conference at 7 p.m.  Stay tuned for "As The
Buckeye (Worm) Turns".


Paul Levinson

The



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From scottzel at gmail.com  Wed Mar  9 13:29:22 2011
From: scottzel at gmail.com (Scott Zeller)
Date: Wed Mar  9 13:29:38 2011
Subject: [NU Sports] Buckeyes in Hot Water with NCAA (Again)?
In-Reply-To: <75a20.129d16b2.3aa923ac@aol.com>
References: <75a20.129d16b2.3aa923ac@aol.com>
Message-ID: <AANLkTi=D4xcZHsqmzuc=oEFH0_WnAv4pfF76LU6JYmQ-@mail.gmail.com>

What about The Hague?

On Wed, Mar 9, 2011 at 10:40 AM, <MHRJGScott@aol.com> wrote:

> dOSU is so annoying like people from NY who like to point out that the
> Bronx is the only city that starts with the.
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From AJWDBW at aol.com  Wed Mar  9 19:38:11 2011
From: AJWDBW at aol.com (AJWDBW@aol.com)
Date: Wed Mar  9 19:38:33 2011
Subject: [NU Sports] Buckeyes in Hot Water with NCAA (Again)?
Message-ID: <b7db1.15257a2.3aa98583@aol.com>

Hey, Swabby: I hope that "story" doesn't extend to us NCO's
Don Williams C55
Sgt. USMC
 
 
In a message dated 3/9/2011 1:08:56 P.M. Central Standard Time,  
rstetson@capps-assoc.com writes:

Those of  us who served with Marines thought some of the junior officers 
were from  Mars... ;-[)

Not time for one of the Marine stories, but a toy bike  horn figures into 
the  equasion.

rsl



From rstetson at capps-assoc.com  Wed Mar  9 22:32:54 2011
From: rstetson at capps-assoc.com (Roy S. Lamberton)
Date: Wed Mar  9 22:32:31 2011
Subject: [NU Sports] Buckeyes in Hot Water with NCAA (Again)?
In-Reply-To: <b7db1.15257a2.3aa98583@aol.com>
References: <b7db1.15257a2.3aa98583@aol.com>
Message-ID: <004c01cbdedc$39afb920$ad0f2b60$@com>

NO, but the Marine Helicopter Pilot who kept blowing the toy horn thru his headset had
ever been caught.

 

He might have finished up as an NCO

 

BTW - some of my pest photos of Marines are of getting coffee for the Admiral.. ;-{)

 

rsl

 

++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

Roy S. Lamberton - Senior Associate & Unix Guru.

Computer Applications & Support Associates

-------------------- Also ----------------------

"Commissioner" Delaware American Legion Baseball

Director Media Relations - Little League 

  Senior League Softball World Series

CTRCS USN/USNR Retired

Northwestern University - Speech 1974 - 

Chi Phi: Pi 1974, KD 1968

Publisher Emeritus: Purple Reign (Fox Sports)

==========  Go Cats -  Beat 'em All  ===========

"...Then I get on my knees and pray,

WE DON'T GET FOOLED AGAIN!" -- Pete Townsend

================================================

 

From: AJWDBW@aol.com [mailto:AJWDBW@aol.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, March 09, 2011 8:38 PM
To: rstetson@capps-assoc.com; Jeff.Beamsley@covisint.com; eschoeman@sbcglobal.net;
hakirsch@aol.com
Cc: nwu-sports@tssi.com
Subject: Re: [NU Sports] Buckeyes in Hot Water with NCAA (Again)?

 

Hey, Swabby: I hope that "story" doesn't extend to us NCO's

Don Williams C55

Sgt. USMC

 

In a message dated 3/9/2011 1:08:56 P.M. Central Standard Time, rstetson@capps-assoc.com
writes:

Those of us who served with Marines thought some of the junior officers were from Mars...
;-[)

Not time for one of the Marine stories, but a toy bike horn figures into the equasion.

rsl



From AJWDBW at aol.com  Thu Mar 10 08:52:06 2011
From: AJWDBW at aol.com (AJWDBW@aol.com)
Date: Thu Mar 10 08:52:39 2011
Subject: [NU Sports] Buckeyes in Hot Water with NCAA (Again)?
Message-ID: <41d65.756b797b.3aaa3f95@aol.com>

LOL.  However, Roy, we did some fighting, too. As a machine  gunner and 
survivor of the Chosin Reservoir in N. Korea, I can attest to  that.
Don
 
 
In a message dated 3/9/2011 10:32:27 P.M. Central Standard Time,  
rstetson@capps-assoc.com writes:

BTW  ? some of my pest photos of Marines are of getting coffee for the  
Admiral
From rstetson at capps-assoc.com  Thu Mar 10 09:22:16 2011
From: rstetson at capps-assoc.com (Roy S. Lamberton)
Date: Thu Mar 10 09:21:56 2011
Subject: [NU Sports] Buckeyes in Hot Water with NCAA (Again)?
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References: <41d65.756b797b.3aaa3f95@aol.com>
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I always told people about the crazy marine stuff (I worked COMSEC out of San Diego for a year ? including amphib exercises), stuff they would do that would get them killed over in ?Nam

 

But I also would tell folks that while we picked on Marines, they were very hand to have around when the lead started flying.

 

Ask a Corpsman.

 

rsl 

 

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Computer Applications & Support Associates

-------------------- Also ----------------------

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Director Media Relations - Little League 

  Senior League Softball World Series

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LOL.  However, Roy, we did some fighting, too. As a machine gunner and survivor of the Chosin Reservoir in N. Korea, I can attest to that.

Don

 

In a message dated 3/9/2011 10:32:27 P.M. Central Standard Time, rstetson@capps-assoc.com writes:

BTW ? some of my pest photos of Marines are of getting coffee for the Admiral

From AJWDBW at aol.com  Thu Mar 10 09:24:29 2011
From: AJWDBW at aol.com (AJWDBW@aol.com)
Date: Thu Mar 10 09:24:54 2011
Subject: [NU Sports] Buckeyes in Hot Water with NCAA (Again)?
Message-ID: <a9ca.3c172c63.3aaa4729@aol.com>

The bravest (and the greatest) individuals I know.
Don
 
 
In a message dated 3/10/2011 9:21:52 A.M. Central Standard Time,  
rstetson@capps-assoc.com writes:

Ask  a Corpsman
From Willie.Weinbaum at espn.com  Thu Mar 10 15:27:23 2011
From: Willie.Weinbaum at espn.com (Weinbaum, Willie)
Date: Thu Mar 10 15:28:44 2011
Subject: [NU Sports] one word
In-Reply-To: <8CD9AC5FE0AC6B7-1998-9A50@webmail-d038.sysops.aol.com>
References: <813524.82308.qm@web113717.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>
	<8CD9AC5FE0AC6B7-1998-9A50@webmail-d038.sysops.aol.com>
Message-ID: <1F89BB2CE7A5B94D969618E8CC769CC3694433CB@XCHGBRS4.corp.espn.pvt>

JUICE!!!

From alan.abrahamson at gmail.com  Thu Mar 10 15:36:41 2011
From: alan.abrahamson at gmail.com (Alan Abrahamson)
Date: Thu Mar 10 15:37:29 2011
Subject: [NU Sports] one word
In-Reply-To: <1F89BB2CE7A5B94D969618E8CC769CC3694433CB@XCHGBRS4.corp.espn.pvt>
References: <813524.82308.qm@web113717.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>
	<8CD9AC5FE0AC6B7-1998-9A50@webmail-d038.sysops.aol.com>
	<1F89BB2CE7A5B94D969618E8CC769CC3694433CB@XCHGBRS4.corp.espn.pvt>
Message-ID: <AANLkTi=R-p89SdUa=7P76TuU-rOfW7s+Kcv9_jfwqZyx@mail.gmail.com>

35 points?! Wow.

Wouldn't it be lovely to beat the Buckeyes?

On Thu, Mar 10, 2011 at 1:27 PM, Weinbaum, Willie
<Willie.Weinbaum@espn.com>wrote:

> JUICE!!!
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From tkmaycock at yahoo.com  Thu Mar 10 15:47:21 2011
From: tkmaycock at yahoo.com (Tom Maycock)
Date: Thu Mar 10 15:47:25 2011
Subject: [NU Sports] one word
In-Reply-To: <1F89BB2CE7A5B94D969618E8CC769CC3694433CB@XCHGBRS4.corp.espn.pvt>
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	<8CD9AC5FE0AC6B7-1998-9A50@webmail-d038.sysops.aol.com>
	<1F89BB2CE7A5B94D969618E8CC769CC3694433CB@XCHGBRS4.corp.espn.pvt>
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> JUICE!!!


Yep. 

Although, it must be said that with Cobb and Capoci both out, some other guys 
really did step up at times--Fruendt, Luka, Crawford, Marcotullio. They all 
pitched in. 

But, yeah, credit for the win clearly goes to Thompson. Really fun to see him 
bring it like that.

Tom

From neonrye at aol.com  Thu Mar 10 15:55:56 2011
From: neonrye at aol.com (neonrye@aol.com)
Date: Thu Mar 10 15:53:05 2011
Subject: [NU Sports] one word
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTi=R-p89SdUa=7P76TuU-rOfW7s+Kcv9_jfwqZyx@mail.gmail.com>
References: <813524.82308.qm@web113717.mail.gq1.yahoo.com><8CD9AC5FE0AC6B7-1998-9A50@webmail-d038.sysops.aol.com><1F89BB2CE7A5B94D969618E8CC769CC3694433CB@XCHGBRS4.corp.espn.pvt><AANLkTi=R-p89SdUa=7P76TuU-rOfW7s+Kcv9_jfwqZyx@mail.gmail.com>
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I say have our entire team get prominent tatoos tonight.
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Subject: Re: [NU Sports] one word

35 points?! Wow.

Wouldn't it be lovely to beat the Buckeyes?

On Thu, Mar 10, 2011 at 1:27 PM, Weinbaum, Willie
<Willie.Weinbaum@espn.com>wrote:

> JUICE!!!
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From MHRJGScott at aol.com  Thu Mar 10 19:02:55 2011
From: MHRJGScott at aol.com (MHRJGScott@aol.com)
Date: Thu Mar 10 19:03:21 2011
Subject: [NU Sports] one word
Message-ID: <14530.6623690e.3aaacebf@aol.com>

as my late coach/trainer Dick Woit always said "you got to want it" Juice  
wanted it today, I wish he had a supporting cast
From Willie.Weinbaum at espn.com  Thu Mar 10 22:22:30 2011
From: Willie.Weinbaum at espn.com (Weinbaum, Willie)
Date: Thu Mar 10 22:24:05 2011
Subject: [NU Sports] re: NU hoops
In-Reply-To: <8CD9AC5FE0AC6B7-1998-9A50@webmail-d038.sysops.aol.com>
References: <813524.82308.qm@web113717.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>
	<8CD9AC5FE0AC6B7-1998-9A50@webmail-d038.sysops.aol.com>
Message-ID: <1F89BB2CE7A5B94D969618E8CC769CC36944361E@XCHGBRS4.corp.espn.pvt>

http://www.chicagobreakingsports.com/2011/03/nu-game-day-cats-bench-thin-vs-minnesota.html

http://articles.chicagotribune.com/2011-03-09/sports/ct-spt-0310-northwestern-basketball-t20110309_1_tavaras-hardy-northwestern-basketball-jershon-cobb

http://espn.go.com/blog/chicago/colleges/post/_/id/2532/what-might-have-been-for-cats-with-coble



From MHRJGScott at aol.com  Fri Mar 11 12:52:51 2011
From: MHRJGScott at aol.com (MHRJGScott@aol.com)
Date: Fri Mar 11 12:52:59 2011
Subject: [NU Sports] Fwd: overtime
Message-ID: <102b5c.104e39f2.3aabc983@aol.com>

 
GO CATS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
From neonrye at aol.com  Fri Mar 11 13:12:24 2011
From: neonrye at aol.com (neonrye@aol.com)
Date: Fri Mar 11 13:09:29 2011
Subject: [NU Sports] Fwd: overtime
Message-ID: <1113192870-1299870565-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-1236430239-@bda544.bisx.prod.on.blackberry>

I am hurting but Oh so proud.  I have changed my mind about Carmody--he stays.  Team showed character, heart and skill against superior opponent.
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From Jeff.Beamsley at covisint.com  Fri Mar 11 13:11:33 2011
From: Jeff.Beamsley at covisint.com (Beamsley, Jeff)
Date: Fri Mar 11 13:12:42 2011
Subject: [NU Sports] Fwd: overtime
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This one did hurt.  Crawford missed so many bunnies.
 
Ah well, onto to hopefully a deep NIT run.
 
Jeff


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I am hurting but Oh so proud.  I have changed my mind about Carmody--he stays.  Team showed character, heart and skill against superior opponent.
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From tbng at comcast.net  Fri Mar 11 13:35:37 2011
From: tbng at comcast.net (Dennis W. Brandt)
Date: Fri Mar 11 13:35:45 2011
Subject: [NU Sports] Fwd: overtime
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Yes, the Cats played their guts out, but let there be no pride for losing 
another winnable game.  Drew Crawford missed shot after makeable shot that 
could have given us a decisive win.  Again at crunch time we lacked the 
stuff to win.  When oh when will it be our turn? 


From eschoeman at sbcglobal.net  Fri Mar 11 13:41:20 2011
From: eschoeman at sbcglobal.net (Evans Schoeman)
Date: Fri Mar 11 13:41:24 2011
Subject: [NU Sports] Fwd: overtime
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A great game to watch, and the Cats did it with defense.

Play that kind of "D" during the season, and we'd have probably seen a different 
result this year.




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I am hurting but Oh so proud.? I have changed my mind about Carmody--he stays.? 
Team showed character, heart and skill against superior opponent.
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From Willie.Weinbaum at espn.com  Fri Mar 11 19:33:28 2011
From: Willie.Weinbaum at espn.com (Weinbaum, Willie)
Date: Fri Mar 11 19:35:03 2011
Subject: [NU Sports] Worth reading about today's game/perspective
Message-ID: <1F89BB2CE7A5B94D969618E8CC769CC36874B2FA@XCHGBRS4.corp.espn.pvt>

It's worth reading the article and the reader comments @ www.laketheposts.com about today's Cats game and its implications.  One reader comment I especially enjoyed was this:

"Northwestern student-athletes playing the game hard always make me proud, win or lose. Am I chalking this one up as a win? Hell no. Like Fitz said, there are no more ?moral victories? for the Cats, in any sport. But I?m always proud of our student-athletes, when they give effort on the field of play and in the classroom and community."  

>From Blackberry - please excuse typos

W. Weinbaum
Producer
212-916-9864 (24-hour voicemail)
willie.weinbaum@espn.com

From rstetson at capps-assoc.com  Fri Mar 11 19:46:22 2011
From: rstetson at capps-assoc.com (Roy S. Lamberton)
Date: Fri Mar 11 19:46:35 2011
Subject: [NU Sports] Fwd: overtime
In-Reply-To: <136673.41521.qm@web83906.mail.sp1.yahoo.com>
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Message-ID: <001501cbe057$4a99a170$dfcce450$@com>

It sounds like the Cats in 2011 have part of the puzzle of how to beat dOSU on the
roundball court.

May it carry over to the grass at Ryan in the fall, or whenever we next play the Buckeyes.

rsl

++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
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Computer Applications & Support Associates
-------------------- Also ----------------------
"Commissioner" Delaware American Legion Baseball
Director Media Relations - Little League 
  Senior League Softball World Series
CTRCS USN/USNR Retired
Northwestern University - Speech 1974 - 
Chi Phi: Pi 1974, KD 1968
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==========  Go Cats -? Beat 'em All  ===========
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A great game to watch, and the Cats did it with defense.

Play that kind of "D" during the season, and we'd have probably seen a different 
result this year.




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I am hurting but Oh so proud.? I have changed my mind about Carmody--he stays.? 
Team showed character, heart and skill against superior opponent.
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From sjtruog at yahoo.com  Fri Mar 11 22:11:18 2011
From: sjtruog at yahoo.com (SjT (Stephen J. Truog))
Date: Fri Mar 11 22:11:24 2011
Subject: [NU Sports] Our old coach ...
Message-ID: <966908.41706.qm@web121708.mail.ne1.yahoo.com>

Too bad the Cats couldn't pull it out today - so close twice against #1, UGH! Could have made for an interesting semifinal Saturday with the other upsets in Indy.

Anyway, some other news today involving a former NU coach - Kevin O'Neill, now at SC, got into it with an Arizona booster at the Pac 10 tourney. As someone who sat a couple rows behind Kevin O'Neill on many occasions, it's hard to believe this hasn't happened earlier.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iSS0nj0ahAI

GO CATS!!!
-SjT

* * * * * * * * *
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From marks83588 at aol.com  Sat Mar 12 07:34:27 2011
From: marks83588 at aol.com (marks83588@aol.com)
Date: Sat Mar 12 07:34:48 2011
Subject: [NU Sports] Fwd: overtime
In-Reply-To: <2B5A7AE1C1CF4C8482D563B4C21B04DB@dennismachine>
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Dennis, sometimes I think you're just a bitter old alum. No one is happy that the Cats lost yesterday, but to not take pride in how hard they played against the best team in the nation is to have lost all perspective IMHO. The better team won but the NU kids played perhaps the game of their lives. Shura looked like the Shurna of old, Juice got hot as the game went on, Crawford was a beast on theh boards, and NU looked like a real, physical Big 10 team for the first time I can recall. Yes, there were some typical melt-downs (Luka!!?!?!) but these aren't a bunch of 4* and 5* kids who expect to win, the margin for error for NU was miniscule. Particularly with Cobb and Capocci out. 

I for one am happy with what I saw, and have moved from the "BC must go" camp to the "keep BC but upgrade the facilities if you're serious about winning in the Big 10" camp (assuming there IS such a camp!).

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Sent: Fri, Mar 11, 2011 2:35 pm
Subject: Re: [NU Sports] Fwd: overtime


Yes, the Cats played their guts out, but let there be no pride for losing 
nother winnable game.  Drew Crawford missed shot after makeable shot that 
ould have given us a decisive win.  Again at crunch time we lacked the 
tuff to win.  When oh when will it be our turn? 

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From tbng at comcast.net  Sat Mar 12 08:36:03 2011
From: tbng at comcast.net (Dennis W. Brandt)
Date: Sat Mar 12 08:36:12 2011
Subject: [NU Sports] Fwd: overtime
References: <1113192870-1299870565-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-1236430239-@bda544.bisx.prod.on.blackberry><FA7822545C26F244823CA5D312ABBDEA06BF4F5E@nasa-dtw-ex006.nasa.cpwr.corp><2B5A7AE1C1CF4C8482D563B4C21B04DB@dennismachine>
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Had we pulled off an upset over OSU yesterday, I would have been deliriously happy.  I also would have been stunned because I had little doubt they would blow that game in regulation and was dead certain we could not win it in overtime.  I've come to that from forty-seven years of witnessing many a game just like yesterday's, precious few of which have ended with an NU victory.  If nearly a half-century of following a program that has annually ranged from inept, at worst, to not-good-enough, at best, makes me "bitter," so be it.  I, too, used to cling to moral victories as a positive, but you can take solace in that only for so long before you realize that many moral victories equates to many losses.  The program's on-going tournament virginity is inexcusable.  It's time to get laid.  Now, THAT would put a smile on my face.

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Dennis, sometimes I think you're just a bitter old alum. No one is happy that the Cats lost yesterday, but to not take pride in how hard they played against the best team in the nation is to have lost all perspective IMHO. The better team won but the NU kids played perhaps the game of their lives. Shura looked like the Shurna of old, Juice got hot as the game went on, Crawford was a beast on theh boards, and NU looked like a real, physical Big 10 team for the first time I can recall. Yes, there were some typical melt-downs (Luka!!?!?!) but these aren't a bunch of 4* and 5* kids who expect to win, the margin for error for NU was miniscule. Particularly with Cobb and Capocci out. 

I for one am happy with what I saw, and have moved from the "BC must go" camp to the "keep BC but upgrade the facilities if you're serious about winning in the Big 10" camp (assuming there IS such a camp!).

-----Original Message-----
From: Dennis W. Brandt <tbng@comcast.net>
To: nwu-sports <nwu-sports@tssi.com>
Sent: Fri, Mar 11, 2011 2:35 pm
Subject: Re: [NU Sports] Fwd: overtime


Yes, the Cats played their guts out, but let there be no pride for losing 
nother winnable game.  Drew Crawford missed shot after makeable shot that 
ould have given us a decisive win.  Again at crunch time we lacked the 
tuff to win.  When oh when will it be our turn? 

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From rstetson at capps-assoc.com  Sat Mar 12 09:03:42 2011
From: rstetson at capps-assoc.com (Roy S. Lamberton)
Date: Sat Mar 12 09:03:53 2011
Subject: [NU Sports] Fwd: overtime
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Add me to the "upgrade facilities" group.

When they used to take up the basketball floor, and play baseball in W-R, it was a really
bad recruiting deal because the kids would come in  and see the banners, and he Purple
Seats, but nothing else.

We upgraded W-R to remain a basketball palace all year and kids can come in and envision
playing in the Big 10's version of the small ACC arenas. 

No, I'll give BC another year (or maybe 2) to put it together. Next year he's really got
the tools to pull it off.

rsl

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marks83588@aol.com
Sent: Saturday, March 12, 2011 8:34 AM
To: nwu-sports@tssi.com
Subject: Re: [NU Sports] Fwd: overtime



Dennis, sometimes I think you're just a bitter old alum. No one is happy that the Cats
lost yesterday, but to not take pride in how hard they played against the best team in the
nation is to have lost all perspective IMHO. The better team won but the NU kids played
perhaps the game of their lives. Shura looked like the Shurna of old, Juice got hot as the
game went on, Crawford was a beast on theh boards, and NU looked like a real, physical Big
10 team for the first time I can recall. Yes, there were some typical melt-downs
(Luka!!?!?!) but these aren't a bunch of 4* and 5* kids who expect to win, the margin for
error for NU was miniscule. Particularly with Cobb and Capocci out. 

I for one am happy with what I saw, and have moved from the "BC must go" camp to the "keep
BC but upgrade the facilities if you're serious about winning in the Big 10" camp
(assuming there IS such a camp!).

-----Original Message-----
From: Dennis W. Brandt <tbng@comcast.net>
To: nwu-sports <nwu-sports@tssi.com>
Sent: Fri, Mar 11, 2011 2:35 pm
Subject: Re: [NU Sports] Fwd: overtime


Yes, the Cats played their guts out, but let there be no pride for losing 
nother winnable game.  Drew Crawford missed shot after makeable shot that 
ould have given us a decisive win.  Again at crunch time we lacked the 
tuff to win.  When oh when will it be our turn? 

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From Jeff.Beamsley at covisint.com  Sat Mar 12 10:50:45 2011
From: Jeff.Beamsley at covisint.com (Beamsley, Jeff)
Date: Sat Mar 12 10:50:56 2011
Subject: [NU Sports] Fwd: overtime
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Let me see if I understand this clearly. 
 
You're growing bitter about 47 years of virginity.
 
You'd like the NU basketball team to recruit a big guy to help put a smile on your face.
 
And you'd like all of this to happen in a nationally televised tournament?
 
You know, just the thought of it puts a smile on my face too.
 
Jeff


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From: nwu-sports-bounces@tssi.com on behalf of Dennis W. Brandt
Sent: Sat 3/12/2011 9:36 AM
To: nwu-sports@tssi.com
Subject: Re: [NU Sports] Fwd: overtime



Had we pulled off an upset over OSU yesterday, I would have been deliriously happy.  I also would have been stunned because I had little doubt they would blow that game in regulation and was dead certain we could not win it in overtime.  I've come to that from forty-seven years of witnessing many a game just like yesterday's, precious few of which have ended with an NU victory.  If nearly a half-century of following a program that has annually ranged from inept, at worst, to not-good-enough, at best, makes me "bitter," so be it.  I, too, used to cling to moral victories as a positive, but you can take solace in that only for so long before you realize that many moral victories equates to many losses.  The program's on-going tournament virginity is inexcusable.  It's time to get laid.  Now, THAT would put a smile on my face.

----- Original Message -----
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To: <nwu-sports@tssi.com>
Sent: Saturday, March 12, 2011 8:34 AM
Subject: Re: [NU Sports] Fwd: overtime




Dennis, sometimes I think you're just a bitter old alum. No one is happy that the Cats lost yesterday, but to not take pride in how hard they played against the best team in the nation is to have lost all perspective IMHO. The better team won but the NU kids played perhaps the game of their lives. Shura looked like the Shurna of old, Juice got hot as the game went on, Crawford was a beast on theh boards, and NU looked like a real, physical Big 10 team for the first time I can recall. Yes, there were some typical melt-downs (Luka!!?!?!) but these aren't a bunch of 4* and 5* kids who expect to win, the margin for error for NU was miniscule. Particularly with Cobb and Capocci out.

I for one am happy with what I saw, and have moved from the "BC must go" camp to the "keep BC but upgrade the facilities if you're serious about winning in the Big 10" camp (assuming there IS such a camp!).

-----Original Message-----
From: Dennis W. Brandt <tbng@comcast.net>
To: nwu-sports <nwu-sports@tssi.com>
Sent: Fri, Mar 11, 2011 2:35 pm
Subject: Re: [NU Sports] Fwd: overtime


Yes, the Cats played their guts out, but let there be no pride for losing
nother winnable game.  Drew Crawford missed shot after makeable shot that
ould have given us a decisive win.  Again at crunch time we lacked the
tuff to win.  When oh when will it be our turn?

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From tbng at comcast.net  Sat Mar 12 12:25:03 2011
From: tbng at comcast.net (Dennis W. Brandt)
Date: Sat Mar 12 12:25:21 2011
Subject: [NU Sports] Fwd: overtime
References: <1113192870-1299870565-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-1236430239-@bda544.bisx.prod.on.blackberry><FA7822545C26F244823CA5D312ABBDEA06BF4F5E@nasa-dtw-ex006.nasa.cpwr.corp><2B5A7AE1C1CF4C8482D563B4C21B04DB@dennismachine><8CDAED15792A979-1468-147D5@webmail-d141.sysops.aol.com><336F057F254845178300261A3914F8F6@dennismachine>
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Scary, isn't it?

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Beamsley, Jeff" <Jeff.Beamsley@covisint.com>
To: <nwu-sports@tssi.com>
Sent: Saturday, March 12, 2011 11:50 AM
Subject: RE: [NU Sports] Fwd: overtime


Let me see if I understand this clearly.

You're growing bitter about 47 years of virginity.

You'd like the NU basketball team to recruit a big guy to help put a smile 
on your face.

And you'd like all of this to happen in a nationally televised tournament?

You know, just the thought of it puts a smile on my face too.

Jeff


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From: nwu-sports-bounces@tssi.com on behalf of Dennis W. Brandt
Sent: Sat 3/12/2011 9:36 AM
To: nwu-sports@tssi.com
Subject: Re: [NU Sports] Fwd: overtime



Had we pulled off an upset over OSU yesterday, I would have been deliriously 
happy.  I also would have been stunned because I had little doubt they would 
blow that game in regulation and was dead certain we could not win it in 
overtime.  I've come to that from forty-seven years of witnessing many a 
game just like yesterday's, precious few of which have ended with an NU 
victory.  If nearly a half-century of following a program that has annually 
ranged from inept, at worst, to not-good-enough, at best, makes me "bitter," 
so be it.  I, too, used to cling to moral victories as a positive, but you 
can take solace in that only for so long before you realize that many moral 
victories equates to many losses.  The program's on-going tournament 
virginity is inexcusable.  It's time to get laid.  Now, THAT would put a 
smile on my face.

----- Original Message -----
From: <marks83588@aol.com>
To: <nwu-sports@tssi.com>
Sent: Saturday, March 12, 2011 8:34 AM
Subject: Re: [NU Sports] Fwd: overtime




Dennis, sometimes I think you're just a bitter old alum. No one is happy 
that the Cats lost yesterday, but to not take pride in how hard they played 
against the best team in the nation is to have lost all perspective IMHO. 
The better team won but the NU kids played perhaps the game of their lives. 
Shura looked like the Shurna of old, Juice got hot as the game went on, 
Crawford was a beast on theh boards, and NU looked like a real, physical Big 
10 team for the first time I can recall. Yes, there were some typical 
melt-downs (Luka!!?!?!) but these aren't a bunch of 4* and 5* kids who 
expect to win, the margin for error for NU was miniscule. Particularly with 
Cobb and Capocci out.

I for one am happy with what I saw, and have moved from the "BC must go" 
camp to the "keep BC but upgrade the facilities if you're serious about 
winning in the Big 10" camp (assuming there IS such a camp!).

-----Original Message-----
From: Dennis W. Brandt <tbng@comcast.net>
To: nwu-sports <nwu-sports@tssi.com>
Sent: Fri, Mar 11, 2011 2:35 pm
Subject: Re: [NU Sports] Fwd: overtime


Yes, the Cats played their guts out, but let there be no pride for losing
nother winnable game.  Drew Crawford missed shot after makeable shot that
ould have given us a decisive win.  Again at crunch time we lacked the
tuff to win.  When oh when will it be our turn?

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From Willie.Weinbaum at espn.com  Sat Mar 12 12:39:11 2011
From: Willie.Weinbaum at espn.com (Weinbaum, Willie)
Date: Sat Mar 12 12:40:42 2011
Subject: [NU Sports] blowout loss to NU didn't help him
In-Reply-To: <1F89BB2CE7A5B94D969618E8CC769CC36874B2FA@XCHGBRS4.corp.espn.pvt>
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---GEORGIA TECH FIRES HEAD COACH PAUL HEWITT: Hewitt went 190-162 in 11 seasons, including a 13-18 record this season, which ended with loss in the first round of the ACC tournament. He led the Yellow Jackets to the NCAA Tournament five times, including the school's only appearance in the national championship game, and the NIT once. However, he went 72-104 in conference play, with just one winning season. He never won the conference's regular-season or tournament titles, though they twice played for the latter. The change means Hewitt is owed $7.2 million, per the deal signed in 2004 after he led the Yellow Jackets to the national championship game. Hewitt declined to say anything about the buyout, other than the reporters seemed to be more versed in the details of his contract than he is.

From hakirsch at aol.com  Sat Mar 12 12:46:08 2011
From: hakirsch at aol.com (hakirsch@aol.com)
Date: Sat Mar 12 12:46:19 2011
Subject: [NU Sports] Fwd: overtime
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I didn't see the game but from the sounds of it, I would have been proud as well of our Cats ,over achieving against the Bucks twice this year even as we fell short again. 

But as we almost officially now write off another year of missing the dance I again throw out a why us ?

Our academic rivals of Duke,Stanford and Vandy have fared much better. (And dare I add for high academic standards :BYU,WFU,and ND ?). OK  Duke has a huge hoops name. Duke  Vandy ,Stanford and Wake have much better weather.  Ok that maybe a factor particularly if you are from LA or Florida and get scared off by the cold. But most of the top hoop players don't come from these locales and none of the schools has Chicago ,which has a huge store of talent, in their backyard. I am at a loss why we can't just get asked to the dance  for one year.  Maybe we need a Sadie Hawkins day 

Harry
Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry

-----Original Message-----
From: "Dennis W. Brandt" <tbng@comcast.net>
Sender: nwu-sports-bounces@tssi.com
Date: Sat, 12 Mar 2011 13:25:03 
To: Beamsley, Jeff<Jeff.Beamsley@covisint.com>; <nwu-sports@tssi.com>
Subject: Re: [NU Sports] Fwd: overtime

Scary, isn't it?

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Beamsley, Jeff" <Jeff.Beamsley@covisint.com>
To: <nwu-sports@tssi.com>
Sent: Saturday, March 12, 2011 11:50 AM
Subject: RE: [NU Sports] Fwd: overtime


Let me see if I understand this clearly.

You're growing bitter about 47 years of virginity.

You'd like the NU basketball team to recruit a big guy to help put a smile 
on your face.

And you'd like all of this to happen in a nationally televised tournament?

You know, just the thought of it puts a smile on my face too.

Jeff


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From: nwu-sports-bounces@tssi.com on behalf of Dennis W. Brandt
Sent: Sat 3/12/2011 9:36 AM
To: nwu-sports@tssi.com
Subject: Re: [NU Sports] Fwd: overtime



Had we pulled off an upset over OSU yesterday, I would have been deliriously 
happy.  I also would have been stunned because I had little doubt they would 
blow that game in regulation and was dead certain we could not win it in 
overtime.  I've come to that from forty-seven years of witnessing many a 
game just like yesterday's, precious few of which have ended with an NU 
victory.  If nearly a half-century of following a program that has annually 
ranged from inept, at worst, to not-good-enough, at best, makes me "bitter," 
so be it.  I, too, used to cling to moral victories as a positive, but you 
can take solace in that only for so long before you realize that many moral 
victories equates to many losses.  The program's on-going tournament 
virginity is inexcusable.  It's time to get laid.  Now, THAT would put a 
smile on my face.

----- Original Message -----
From: <marks83588@aol.com>
To: <nwu-sports@tssi.com>
Sent: Saturday, March 12, 2011 8:34 AM
Subject: Re: [NU Sports] Fwd: overtime




Dennis, sometimes I think you're just a bitter old alum. No one is happy 
that the Cats lost yesterday, but to not take pride in how hard they played 
against the best team in the nation is to have lost all perspective IMHO. 
The better team won but the NU kids played perhaps the game of their lives. 
Shura looked like the Shurna of old, Juice got hot as the game went on, 
Crawford was a beast on theh boards, and NU looked like a real, physical Big 
10 team for the first time I can recall. Yes, there were some typical 
melt-downs (Luka!!?!?!) but these aren't a bunch of 4* and 5* kids who 
expect to win, the margin for error for NU was miniscule. Particularly with 
Cobb and Capocci out.

I for one am happy with what I saw, and have moved from the "BC must go" 
camp to the "keep BC but upgrade the facilities if you're serious about 
winning in the Big 10" camp (assuming there IS such a camp!).

-----Original Message-----
From: Dennis W. Brandt <tbng@comcast.net>
To: nwu-sports <nwu-sports@tssi.com>
Sent: Fri, Mar 11, 2011 2:35 pm
Subject: Re: [NU Sports] Fwd: overtime


Yes, the Cats played their guts out, but let there be no pride for losing
nother winnable game.  Drew Crawford missed shot after makeable shot that
ould have given us a decisive win.  Again at crunch time we lacked the
tuff to win.  When oh when will it be our turn?

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From Willie.Weinbaum at espn.com  Sun Mar 13 07:00:14 2011
From: Willie.Weinbaum at espn.com (Weinbaum, Willie)
Date: Sun Mar 13 07:01:49 2011
Subject: [NU Sports] NIT announcement tonight
Message-ID: <1F89BB2CE7A5B94D969618E8CC769CC36874B317@XCHGBRS4.corp.espn.pvt>

9-9:30 p.m. Eastern: NIT Selection Special, ESPNU

>From Blackberry - please excuse typos

W. Weinbaum
Producer
212-916-9864 (24-hour voicemail)
willie.weinbaum@espn.com

From scottzel at gmail.com  Sun Mar 13 11:43:57 2011
From: scottzel at gmail.com (Scott Zeller, M.D.)
Date: Sun Mar 13 11:44:05 2011
Subject: [NU Sports] NIT announcement tonight
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Word is it is looking pretty dicey right now. NIT must give bids to
regular-season champs in any conference that loses its championship
tournament. There have been an unusual number of these upsets this year
eating up most of the NIT slots. According to one website, the nine schools
Southern Miss, New Mexico, Mississippi, Nebraska, Baylor, Northwestern, UCF,
Iona, and Dayton are fighting for the last three spots.

For conference "wow" factor you would give the edge to Mississippi, NU and
either Nebraska or Baylor.  But the NIT is run by the NCAA now and I don't
know if names/money mean as much any more.

By the way, did anyone know that UCF (Univ Central Florida) is the USA's 2nd
largest school with 56,000 students?

Scott Zeller MD
Med '86

On Sun, Mar 13, 2011 at 5:00 AM, Weinbaum, Willie
<Willie.Weinbaum@espn.com>wrote:

> 9-9:30 p.m. Eastern: NIT Selection Special, ESPNU
>
> >From Blackberry - please excuse typos
>
> W. Weinbaum
> Producer
> 212-916-9864 (24-hour voicemail)
> willie.weinbaum@espn.com
>
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From tbng at comcast.net  Sun Mar 13 12:14:23 2011
From: tbng at comcast.net (Dennis W. Brandt)
Date: Sun Mar 13 12:14:32 2011
Subject: [NU Sports] School enrollment
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> By the way, did anyone know that UCF (Univ Central Florida) is the USA's 
> 2nd
> largest school with 56,000 students?

According to Wikipedia (take it for what it's worth 
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_United_States_colleges_and_universities_by_enrollment - 
the article references the U.S. Dept of Ed), as of 2009:

      Ranking College Location Enrollment
      1 University of Phoenix Online Campus (Headquarters in Phoenix, 
Arizona) 532,672
      2 Community College of the Air Force Multiple Campuses (Headquarters 
in Montgomery, Alabama) 324,573
      3 Kaplan University Multiple Campuses (Headquarters in Davenport, 
Iowa) 96,166
      4 Miami Dade College Miami, Florida 96,123
      5 Houston Community College Houston, Texas 78,780
      6 Ashford University Multiple Campuses (Headquarters in Clinton, Iowa) 
78,353
      7 Arizona State University Phoenix Metropolitan Area, Arizona 75,341
      8 Strayer University Washington, DC 74,713
      9 Lone Star College System The Woodlands, Texas 69,340
      10 Northern Virginia Community College Annandale, Virginia 67,175
      11 University of Minnesota, Twin Cities Minneapolis/St. Paul, 
Minnesota 65,006
      12 Austin Community College District Austin, Texas 64,276
      13 Ohio State University Columbus, Ohio 62,807
      14 Tarrant County College District Fort Worth, Texas 62,488
      15 College of Southern Nevada Las Vegas, Nevada 59,691
      16 University of Florida Gainesville, Florida 59,614
      17 University of Central Florida Orlando, Florida 59,360
      18 American River College Sacramento, California 57,959
      19 Pima Community College Tucson, Arizona 57,924
      20 East Los Angeles College Los Angeles, California 57,340


Enrollment depends on your definition, I suppose.  Obviously, some of those 
(University of Phoenix) are largely online schools, and others have many 
satellite campuses.  But did Ohio State shrink in a year and a half?  (Must 
be all their athletes suspended for rule breaking.) 


From scottzel at gmail.com  Sun Mar 13 12:43:35 2011
From: scottzel at gmail.com (Scott Zeller, M.D.)
Date: Sun Mar 13 12:43:40 2011
Subject: [NU Sports] School enrollment
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I got the claim from the UCF website itself:

 University of Central Florida <http://www.ucf.edu/>
The *University of Central Florida* is the nation's second-largest
university. With 12 colleges located in Orlando, Florida, it serves over
56000 students.
www.*ucf*.edu/ <http://www.ucf.edu/>


By looking at the website, you get the idea there is not much of a dress
code on campus.


On Sun, Mar 13, 2011 at 10:14 AM, Dennis W. Brandt <tbng@comcast.net> wrote:

> By the way, did anyone know that UCF (Univ Central Florida) is the USA's
>> 2nd
>> largest school with 56,000 students?
>>
>
> According to Wikipedia (take it for what it's worth
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_United_States_colleges_and_universities_by_enrollment- the article references the U.S. Dept of Ed), as of 2009:
>
>     Ranking College Location Enrollment
>     1 University of Phoenix Online Campus (Headquarters in Phoenix,
> Arizona) 532,672
>     2 Community College of the Air Force Multiple Campuses (Headquarters in
> Montgomery, Alabama) 324,573
>     3 Kaplan University Multiple Campuses (Headquarters in Davenport, Iowa)
> 96,166
>     4 Miami Dade College Miami, Florida 96,123
>     5 Houston Community College Houston, Texas 78,780
>     6 Ashford University Multiple Campuses (Headquarters in Clinton, Iowa)
> 78,353
>     7 Arizona State University Phoenix Metropolitan Area, Arizona 75,341
>     8 Strayer University Washington, DC 74,713
>     9 Lone Star College System The Woodlands, Texas 69,340
>     10 Northern Virginia Community College Annandale, Virginia 67,175
>     11 University of Minnesota, Twin Cities Minneapolis/St. Paul, Minnesota
> 65,006
>     12 Austin Community College District Austin, Texas 64,276
>     13 Ohio State University Columbus, Ohio 62,807
>     14 Tarrant County College District Fort Worth, Texas 62,488
>     15 College of Southern Nevada Las Vegas, Nevada 59,691
>     16 University of Florida Gainesville, Florida 59,614
>     17 University of Central Florida Orlando, Florida 59,360
>     18 American River College Sacramento, California 57,959
>     19 Pima Community College Tucson, Arizona 57,924
>     20 East Los Angeles College Los Angeles, California 57,340
>
>
> Enrollment depends on your definition, I suppose.  Obviously, some of those
> (University of Phoenix) are largely online schools, and others have many
> satellite campuses.  But did Ohio State shrink in a year and a half?  (Must
> be all their athletes suspended for rule breaking.)
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From sportsbiz at gmail.com  Sun Mar 13 12:55:45 2011
From: sportsbiz at gmail.com (Sportsbiz)
Date: Sun Mar 13 12:56:11 2011
Subject: [NU Sports] NIT announcement tonight
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I haven't seen any bracket projections but I do know that when it comes to
the NIT at-large teams, money talks.  You can bid your way into the tourney
and hosting first round games which may not help NU a whole lot given the
competition.  Dayton is in the A-10 championship game, although currently
losing to Richmond, so they could play their way into the Big Dance and off
the NIT bubble.

On Sun, Mar 13, 2011 at 12:43 PM, Scott Zeller, M.D. <scottzel@gmail.com>wrote:

> Word is it is looking pretty dicey right now. NIT must give bids to
> regular-season champs in any conference that loses its championship
> tournament. There have been an unusual number of these upsets this year
> eating up most of the NIT slots. According to one website, the nine schools
> Southern Miss, New Mexico, Mississippi, Nebraska, Baylor, Northwestern,
> UCF,
> Iona, and Dayton are fighting for the last three spots.
>
> For conference "wow" factor you would give the edge to Mississippi, NU and
> either Nebraska or Baylor.  But the NIT is run by the NCAA now and I don't
> know if names/money mean as much any more.
>
> By the way, did anyone know that UCF (Univ Central Florida) is the USA's
> 2nd
> largest school with 56,000 students?
>
> Scott Zeller MD
> Med '86
>
> On Sun, Mar 13, 2011 at 5:00 AM, Weinbaum, Willie
> <Willie.Weinbaum@espn.com>wrote:
>
> > 9-9:30 p.m. Eastern: NIT Selection Special, ESPNU
> >
> > >From Blackberry - please excuse typos
> >
> > W. Weinbaum
> > Producer
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From MHRJGScott at aol.com  Sun Mar 13 18:07:59 2011
From: MHRJGScott at aol.com (MHRJGScott@aol.com)
Date: Sun Mar 13 18:08:26 2011
Subject: [NU Sports] School enrollment
Message-ID: <12c61.716591d8.3aaea84f@aol.com>

You are correct Doc, UCF is an amazing story. 20 years ago it was a  
community college but a couple great presidents, esp. John Hitt, envisioned a  
great University, and he made it happen.  I used to be a snob about their  
academics but with effort and money they are leaders in computer science,  
hospitality management, accounting and a number of other practical fields. A  
beautiful new football stadium. which makes the citrus bowl look like a slum, a 
 performing arts center, while Orlando's is a joke, a major medical plaza 
with  Tavistock and Burman, etc.
From wildelk2 at aol.com  Sun Mar 13 18:52:49 2011
From: wildelk2 at aol.com (wildelk2@aol.com)
Date: Sun Mar 13 18:52:59 2011
Subject: [NU Sports] Fwd: overtime
Message-ID: <8CDAFF0E447BB23-1600-D1B@webmail-m140.sysops.aol.com>




   First of all, I didn't see the game on account of work.  That said, I consider this a 60/40 issue.  60% of me sides with Dennis; I've been an ardent Cat fan since 1978. I am 47 and still haven't seen my team in the tournament.  It gets, to say the least, old.   The probable NIT berth we'll (probably) get is bittersweet.   We'll be able to see Juice lace 'em up at least one more time.


   My thing is 2 wins.  For the 2nd season in a row, we finished 7-11 in conference.  Last year it was 1-3 vs. Iowa/PSU. We go 3-1 vs. 2 very bad teams and we dance.  I think we were closer last year than we were this year.  This year, a split vs. Sparty and OSU (count yesterday's result) and we dance.  To see Michigan, Illinois and Penn St. Make the NCAA tournament makes my stomach hurt.


   The 40% of me says we are closer than we've ever been of having a team qualify for the NCAA tournament.  With the injection of Thompson, Coble, Shurna, and hopefully Cobb and Crawford, athletic, talented players are saying "yes" to Evanston.  We'd all like to think that with Coble and/or Shurna's ankle being sound, we would 've made the tournament .  As I said, we got close.


   But now Thompson is gone.  We'll need a healthy Shurna, and the returning players (all of them) to step up their game.  I've heard Tre Demps is a good one who can help right away; don't know much about our other recruits.  I hope we aren't in for a rebuilding season without Juice.  That's my #1 fear.   These NIT seasons are much better than 10-20, 4-14..  


   That said, let me let you in on a little secret.  He coaches 15 miles west of downtown Pittsburgh at Robert Morris University, out near the airport.  His name is Andy Toole; a graduate of Penn.  He's a young guy, only 30.  He was All Ivy League, worked his way on to an Ass't Coach at Lafayette.  >From there, he landed Ass't Coach at Robert Morris.  The Head Coach, Mike Rice, led RMU to 2 straight Northeast  Conference titles, and last year was a referee's screwing from knocking off #2 Villanova.  Rice left for Rutgers, who improved in the rugged Big East in his 1st year, and signed a Big East-like recruiting class; RU will go to the NCAA tournament next season; I'd bet a lot of money on that.
   RMU reached the conference final after losing 2 senior starters and having they're biggest offensive threat (Karon Abraham)  miss nearly half the season due to a DUI, and then tearing his Achilles like Dan Persa.  They got hot late in the season, ripping off 8 straight to get to the final.  Toole recruited everyone on the team, and, by the way, RMU has one of the worst stadiums in the league. Sound familiar?  
   Toole won't stay at RMU forever.   I have no doubt that he can recruit NU-type of players that will win big.  
   I'm on record of stating BC deserves one more year to get us over the hump. Toole isn't going anywhere for 2011-12.  IF BC can't get it done, I know Andy Toole can.


    GO CATS!!          Eric


   




-----Original Message-----
From: Dennis W. Brandt <tbng@comcast.net>
To: nwu-sports <nwu-sports@tssi.com>
Sent: Sat, Mar 12, 2011 4:36 am
Subject: Re: [NU Sports] Fwd: overtime


Had we pulled off an upset over OSU yesterday, I would have been deliriously 
happy.  I also would have been stunned because I had little doubt they would 
blow that game in regulation and was dead certain we could not win it in 
overtime.  I've come to that from forty-seven years of witnessing many a game 
just like yesterday's, precious few of which have ended with an NU victory.  If 
nearly a half-century of following a program that has annually ranged from 
inept, at worst, to not-good-enough, at best, makes me "bitter," so be it.  I, 
too, used to cling to moral victories as a positive, but you can take solace in 
that only for so long before you realize that many moral victories equates to 
many losses.  The program's on-going tournament virginity is inexcusable.  It's 
time to get laid.  Now, THAT would put a smile on my face.

----- Original Message ----- 
From: <marks83588@aol.com>
To: <nwu-sports@tssi.com>
Sent: Saturday, March 12, 2011 8:34 AM
Subject: Re: [NU Sports] Fwd: overtime




Dennis, sometimes I think you're just a bitter old alum. No one is happy that 
the Cats lost yesterday, but to not take pride in how hard they played against 
the best team in the nation is to have lost all perspective IMHO. The better 
team won but the NU kids played perhaps the game of their lives. Shura looked 
like the Shurna of old, Juice got hot as the game went on, Crawford was a beast 
on theh boards, and NU looked like a real, physical Big 10 team for the first 
time I can recall. Yes, there were some typical melt-downs (Luka!!?!?!) but 
these aren't a bunch of 4* and 5* kids who expect to win, the margin for error 
for NU was miniscule. Particularly with Cobb and Capocci out. 

I for one am happy with what I saw, and have moved from the "BC must go" camp to 
the "keep BC but upgrade the facilities if you're serious about winning in the 
Big 10" camp (assuming there IS such a camp!).

-----Original Message-----
From: Dennis W. Brandt <tbng@comcast.net>
To: nwu-sports <nwu-sports@tssi.com>
Sent: Fri, Mar 11, 2011 2:35 pm
Subject: Re: [NU Sports] Fwd: overtime


Yes, the Cats played their guts out, but let there be no pride for losing 
nother winnable game.  Drew Crawford missed shot after makeable shot that 
ould have given us a decisive win.  Again at crunch time we lacked the 
tuff to win.  When oh when will it be our turn? 

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From Willie.Weinbaum at espn.com  Sun Mar 13 20:10:12 2011
From: Willie.Weinbaum at espn.com (Weinbaum, Willie)
Date: Sun Mar 13 20:11:35 2011
Subject: [NU Sports] NIT
Message-ID: <1F89BB2CE7A5B94D969618E8CC769CC36874B334@XCHGBRS4.corp.espn.pvt>

Cats are in, seeded 4th, play Milwaukee on Wed @ 8 E.

>From Blackberry - please excuse typos

W. Weinbaum
Producer
212-916-9864 (24-hour voicemail)
willie.weinbaum@espn.com

From neonrye at aol.com  Sun Mar 13 20:17:16 2011
From: neonrye at aol.com (neonrye@aol.com)
Date: Sun Mar 13 20:17:43 2011
Subject: [NU Sports] NIT
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About as good a seed as we could have hoped for--a winnable home game, followed (if we beat Milwaukee) by match-up vs. Boston College, in all likelihood.  BC lost to Harvard earlier in year, so it looks like they can't handle players with high SAT's.  Not the Dance, but better than sitting home all alone.  And team is probably playing as well as they have all year--should have confidence going in.

Paul Levinson






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Subject: [NU Sports] NIT


Cats are in, seeded 4th, play Milwaukee on Wed @ 8 E.
>From Blackberry - please excuse typos
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From Willie.Weinbaum at espn.com  Sun Mar 13 21:08:51 2011
From: Willie.Weinbaum at espn.com (Weinbaum, Willie)
Date: Sun Mar 13 21:10:06 2011
Subject: [NU Sports] NY Times & Cats' forever hoops woes
Message-ID: <1F89BB2CE7A5B94D969618E8CC769CC36874B344@XCHGBRS4.corp.espn.pvt>

http://www.nytimes.com/2011/03/14/sports/ncaabasketball/14sadness.html


From sportsbiz at gmail.com  Sun Mar 13 21:13:19 2011
From: sportsbiz at gmail.com (Sportsbiz)
Date: Sun Mar 13 21:13:43 2011
Subject: [NU Sports] NIT
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Not a bad bracketing.  Four seed is about right and of the number ones,
Boston College is the weakest.  However, one big negative is we're not on TV
- espn3.com only.
C'mon Willie - couldn't  you have done something about that :)
Mark

On Sun, Mar 13, 2011 at 9:10 PM, Weinbaum, Willie
<Willie.Weinbaum@espn.com>wrote:

> Cats are in, seeded 4th, play Milwaukee on Wed @ 8 E.
>
> >From Blackberry - please excuse typos
>
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From Willie.Weinbaum at espn.com  Sun Mar 13 21:14:46 2011
From: Willie.Weinbaum at espn.com (Weinbaum, Willie)
Date: Sun Mar 13 21:16:16 2011
Subject: [NU Sports] NIT
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTimAvz68tidPUMo1OwEGNDvh19NJMCdBqdpk_erp@mail.gmail.com>
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I wish - I want to watch the darned game, too, as I have all the rest. :)

From: Sportsbiz [mailto:sportsbiz@gmail.com]
Sent: Sunday, March 13, 2011 10:13 PM
To: Weinbaum, Willie
Cc: nwu-sports@tssi.com
Subject: Re: [NU Sports] NIT

Not a bad bracketing.  Four seed is about right and of the number ones, Boston College is the weakest.  However, one big negative is we're not on TV - espn3.com<http://espn3.com> only.
C'mon Willie - couldn't  you have done something about that :)
Mark
On Sun, Mar 13, 2011 at 9:10 PM, Weinbaum, Willie <Willie.Weinbaum@espn.com<mailto:Willie.Weinbaum@espn.com>> wrote:
Cats are in, seeded 4th, play Milwaukee on Wed @ 8 E.

>From Blackberry - please excuse typos

W. Weinbaum
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From tkmaycock at yahoo.com  Mon Mar 14 10:08:31 2011
From: tkmaycock at yahoo.com (Tom Maycock)
Date: Mon Mar 14 10:08:48 2011
Subject: [NU Sports] Carmody is picking up the tab
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Apparently, coach is going to pay for the tickets for any students who attend 
the NIT game. Granted, he makes a good living and tix are only $5, and he would 
directly benefit from a full house, but it's a really nice move on his part. 

If all went according to plan, my wife has secured a couple of tickets for us 
right about now. Looking forward to it--it's been a looonng time since that last 
home NIT game. 

Smart move on NU's part to keep ticket prices reasonable -- I believe it's $20 
for non-students. 

Tom

From Jeff.Beamsley at covisint.com  Mon Mar 14 10:12:29 2011
From: Jeff.Beamsley at covisint.com (Beamsley, Jeff)
Date: Mon Mar 14 10:12:44 2011
Subject: [NU Sports] Carmody is picking up the tab
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Challenge is that a lot of those kids are working on final exams.

I agree that it would be great to have a full house.

Jeff


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Sent: Monday, March 14, 2011 11:09 AM
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Subject: [NU Sports] Carmody is picking up the tab

Apparently, coach is going to pay for the tickets for any students who
attend 
the NIT game. Granted, he makes a good living and tix are only $5, and
he would 
directly benefit from a full house, but it's a really nice move on his
part. 

If all went according to plan, my wife has secured a couple of tickets
for us 
right about now. Looking forward to it--it's been a looonng time since
that last 
home NIT game. 

Smart move on NU's part to keep ticket prices reasonable -- I believe
it's $20 
for non-students. 

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From snelson at hbs.edu  Mon Mar 14 11:30:03 2011
From: snelson at hbs.edu (Nelson, Steven)
Date: Mon Mar 14 11:30:27 2011
Subject: [NU Sports] Carmody is picking up the tab
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And while we need to approach this tourney one-game-at-a-time, we're very much hoping for a round 2 match-up against BC here in the Northeast.

Steve


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Challenge is that a lot of those kids are working on final exams.

I agree that it would be great to have a full house.

Jeff


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Apparently, coach is going to pay for the tickets for any students who
attend 
the NIT game. Granted, he makes a good living and tix are only $5, and
he would 
directly benefit from a full house, but it's a really nice move on his
part. 

If all went according to plan, my wife has secured a couple of tickets
for us 
right about now. Looking forward to it--it's been a looonng time since
that last 
home NIT game. 

Smart move on NU's part to keep ticket prices reasonable -- I believe
it's $20 
for non-students. 

Tom

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From Willie.Weinbaum at espn.com  Wed Mar 16 07:14:28 2011
From: Willie.Weinbaum at espn.com (Weinbaum, Willie)
Date: Wed Mar 16 07:15:48 2011
Subject: [NU Sports] previewing tonight's NIT
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http://www.laketheposts.com/index.php/2011/03/cats-begin-nit-journey-tonight-vs-milwaukee/


From mzilka at sbcglobal.net  Wed Mar 16 08:46:02 2011
From: mzilka at sbcglobal.net (Marilyn)
Date: Wed Mar 16 08:46:33 2011
Subject: [NU Sports] Wildcat Cookbook
Message-ID: <0BC8FB2F-4949-4DB3-A9AE-B515C3961AEA@sbcglobal.net>

The deadline is fast approaching for recipe submission to the Wildcat Cookbook the Catbacker organization will be publishing

www.wildcatcookbook.com

For information and recipe entry


Deadline for recipes is March 31!!!

Please forward!!

From martinitis at aol.com  Wed Mar 16 18:51:30 2011
From: martinitis at aol.com (Louis Martinaitis)
Date: Wed Mar 16 18:51:59 2011
Subject: Fwd: [NU Sports] previewing tonight's NIT
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Anyone on line with a tip on how to turn on espn3.com?  I'm using windows but am being told there is no such site?!

Lou

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From Willie.Weinbaum at espn.com  Wed Mar 16 19:55:38 2011
From: Willie.Weinbaum at espn.com (Weinbaum, Willie)
Date: Wed Mar 16 19:57:11 2011
Subject: [NU Sports] streaky first half
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Good to have the nice lead.  Can't let up.  Don't want Juice's career to end. :)


From Willie.Weinbaum at espn.com  Wed Mar 16 20:49:07 2011
From: Willie.Weinbaum at espn.com (Weinbaum, Willie)
Date: Wed Mar 16 20:50:25 2011
Subject: [NU Sports] On to face BC
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Shurna & Juice show.  Go Cats...

From tbng at comcast.net  Wed Mar 16 21:15:12 2011
From: tbng at comcast.net (Dennis W. Brandt)
Date: Wed Mar 16 21:15:21 2011
Subject: [NU Sports] On to face BC
References: <1F89BB2CE7A5B94D969618E8CC769CC36874B344@XCHGBRS4.corp.espn.pvt><156877.69428.qm@web33103.mail.mud.yahoo.com><1F89BB2CE7A5B94D969618E8CC769CC36874B3D2@XCHGBRS4.corp.espn.pvt>
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We'd better play better than that against BC or our AD will be unhappy, and 
we'll be right back at year zero.  Way too many blown inside shots, although 
that is hardly atypical. 


From hakirsch at aol.com  Wed Mar 16 21:45:41 2011
From: hakirsch at aol.com (hakirsch@aol.com)
Date: Wed Mar 16 21:45:48 2011
Subject: [NU Sports] On to face BC
Message-ID: <752436401-1300329943-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-1029812486-@bda2184.bisx.prod.on.blackberry>

Dennis

Someone told me we won. That is all I care about. We have only won 2 or 3 postseason games (excluding BT tourney) in our history.  

Harry
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To: nwu-sports@tssi.com
Subject: Re: [NU Sports] On to face BC
Sent: Mar 16, 2011 7:15 PM

We'd better play better than that against BC or our AD will be unhappy, and 
we'll be right back at year zero.  Way too many blown inside shots, although 
that is hardly atypical. 


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From wildelk2 at aol.com  Wed Mar 16 22:04:44 2011
From: wildelk2 at aol.com (wildelk2@aol.com)
Date: Wed Mar 16 22:05:21 2011
Subject: [NU Sports] On to face BC
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Harry-
  Yes and No.  I hear you- awesome to win a game post Big 10 tourney, but if we want to beat B (Big East) C,  we need to get the chippies.  Still, we hit the boards and made very few turnovers; awesome start.    GO CATS!!!   Eric





-----Original Message-----
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To: Dennis W. Brandt <tbng@comcast.net>; nwu-sports-bounces <nwu-sports-bounces@tssi.com>; nwu-sports <nwu-sports@tssi.com>
Sent: Wed, Mar 16, 2011 6:45 pm
Subject: Re: [NU Sports] On to face BC


Dennis

Someone told me we won. That is all I care about. We have only won 2 or 3 
postseason games (excluding BT tourney) in our history.  

Harry
------Original Message------
From: Dennis W. Brandt
Sender: nwu-sports-bounces@tssi.com
To: nwu-sports@tssi.com
Subject: Re: [NU Sports] On to face BC
Sent: Mar 16, 2011 7:15 PM

We'd better play better than that against BC or our AD will be unhappy, and 
we'll be right back at year zero.  Way too many blown inside shots, although 
that is hardly atypical. 


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From sportsbiz at gmail.com  Thu Mar 17 00:14:19 2011
From: sportsbiz at gmail.com (Sportsbiz)
Date: Thu Mar 17 00:14:56 2011
Subject: [NU Sports] On to face BC
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Actually, BC is one of the schools the ACC raided the Big East for and is
the one that made and makes the least sense for that league, but I won't
rehash that whole Big East-ACC thing here.  The important thing is they are
beatable and it shouldn't even take our best game, just a good one.

On Wed, Mar 16, 2011 at 11:04 PM, <wildelk2@aol.com> wrote:

> Harry-
>  Yes and No.  I hear you- awesome to win a game post Big 10 tourney, but if
> we want to beat B (Big East) C,  we need to get the chippies.  Still, we hit
> the boards and made very few turnovers; awesome start.    GO CATS!!!   Eric
>
>
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: hakirsch <hakirsch@aol.com>
> To: Dennis W. Brandt <tbng@comcast.net>; nwu-sports-bounces <
> nwu-sports-bounces@tssi.com>; nwu-sports <nwu-sports@tssi.com>
> Sent: Wed, Mar 16, 2011 6:45 pm
> Subject: Re: [NU Sports] On to face BC
>
>
> Dennis
>
> Someone told me we won. That is all I care about. We have only won 2 or 3
> postseason games (excluding BT tourney) in our history.
>
> Harry
> ------Original Message------
> From: Dennis W. Brandt
> Sender: nwu-sports-bounces@tssi.com
> To: nwu-sports@tssi.com
> Subject: Re: [NU Sports] On to face BC
> Sent: Mar 16, 2011 7:15 PM
>
> We'd better play better than that against BC or our AD will be unhappy, and
> we'll be right back at year zero.  Way too many blown inside shots,
> although
> that is hardly atypical.
>
>
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From tkmaycock at yahoo.com  Thu Mar 17 09:31:05 2011
From: tkmaycock at yahoo.com (Tom Maycock)
Date: Thu Mar 17 09:31:08 2011
Subject: [NU Sports] On to face BC
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Had great seats and a great time at the game last night. Wish the Cats could 
have shot a little better down the stretch to blow things wide open, but they 
played well. It was a really enjoyable night, and the turnout was good 
considering finals week. 

Couple of bits:

The team made its usual post-victory lap around the court, high-fiving fans 
around the way. Juice's lap took a lot longer than everyone else's. He was 
shaking hands with everybody, including the WGN guys. By the time Carmody's 
post-game show was over and we started to head out, Juice was still shaking 
hands and posing for pictures. Shurna was still out there, posing for pictures 
with kids (he had to lean way over to be in the frame with a small boy). Nice 
stuff to see, and it was nice to have another chance to say farewell to Juice 
and the other seniors. Too bad Ryan still wasn't healthy enough for a token 
appearance.

Also, Cobb was suited up and warmed up with the team before both halves. He 
looked a little stiff or limited, but I thought it was a very good sign that he 
was at least out there moving around.


Tom

From hakirsch at aol.com  Sat Mar 19 10:48:42 2011
From: hakirsch at aol.com (hakirsch@aol.com)
Date: Sat Mar 19 10:49:16 2011
Subject: [NU Sports] Fw: Up by 7 at the Half
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Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry

-----Original Message-----
From: hakirsch@aol.com
Date: Sat, 19 Mar 2011 15:45:35 
To: Dennis W. Brandt<tbng@comcast.net>
Reply-To: hakirsch@aol.com
Subject: Up by 7 at the Half

We are not the only team that misses bunnies. BC does as well. Through luck and hustle we are doing well on the O boards getting quite a few 2nd chances. Still worried about our reliance on the 3,and we have held their best scorer scoreless which probably won't last long 

Hope we can beat the team I rooted for growing up. (That is until I enrolled at NU and BC had a few players go to jail for point shaving --well before NU's own troubles)

Harry
------Original Message------
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Sender: nwu-sports-bounces@tssi.com
To: nwu-sports@tssi.com
Subject: Re: [NU Sports] On to face BC
Sent: Mar 16, 2011 7:15 PM

We'd better play better than that against BC or our AD will be unhappy, and 
we'll be right back at year zero.  Way too many blown inside shots, although 
that is hardly atypical. 


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From alan.abrahamson at gmail.com  Sat Mar 19 10:51:21 2011
From: alan.abrahamson at gmail.com (Alan Abrahamson)
Date: Sat Mar 19 10:52:13 2011
Subject: [NU Sports] Fw: Up by 7 at the Half
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Their best player, Mr. Jackson, has zero points at the half. Zero.

If we keep that up, we will win. Pretty elemental math, ladies and
gentlemen.



On Sat, Mar 19, 2011 at 8:48 AM, <hakirsch@aol.com> wrote:

>
> Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: hakirsch@aol.com
> Date: Sat, 19 Mar 2011 15:45:35
> To: Dennis W. Brandt<tbng@comcast.net>
> Reply-To: hakirsch@aol.com
> Subject: Up by 7 at the Half
>
> We are not the only team that misses bunnies. BC does as well. Through luck
> and hustle we are doing well on the O boards getting quite a few 2nd
> chances. Still worried about our reliance on the 3,and we have held their
> best scorer scoreless which probably won't last long
>
> Hope we can beat the team I rooted for growing up. (That is until I
> enrolled at NU and BC had a few players go to jail for point shaving --well
> before NU's own troubles)
>
> Harry
> ------Original Message------
> From: Dennis W. Brandt
> Sender: nwu-sports-bounces@tssi.com
> To: nwu-sports@tssi.com
> Subject: Re: [NU Sports] On to face BC
> Sent: Mar 16, 2011 7:15 PM
>
> We'd better play better than that against BC or our AD will be unhappy, and
> we'll be right back at year zero.  Way too many blown inside shots,
> although
> that is hardly atypical.
>
>
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From Willie.Weinbaum at espn.com  Sat Mar 19 10:55:02 2011
From: Willie.Weinbaum at espn.com (Weinbaum, Willie)
Date: Sat Mar 19 10:56:20 2011
Subject: [NU Sports] Fw: Up by 7 at the Half
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTikx+ozKG+DE3BP=mpOioJGWQQoioY0w1zgfs-H1@mail.gmail.com>
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One of the best-played halves by NU this season.  Strong efforts at both ends, smart play, etc.  Great to see.  Long way to go, but three strong halves of basketball and NU is back in NY (for the consolation Final Four). :)

-----Original Message-----
From: nwu-sports-bounces@tssi.com [mailto:nwu-sports-bounces@tssi.com] On Behalf Of Alan Abrahamson
Sent: Saturday, March 19, 2011 11:51 AM
To: hakirsch@aol.com
Cc: nwu-sports@tssi.com
Subject: Re: [NU Sports] Fw: Up by 7 at the Half

Their best player, Mr. Jackson, has zero points at the half. Zero.

If we keep that up, we will win. Pretty elemental math, ladies and
gentlemen.



On Sat, Mar 19, 2011 at 8:48 AM, <hakirsch@aol.com> wrote:

>
> Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: hakirsch@aol.com
> Date: Sat, 19 Mar 2011 15:45:35
> To: Dennis W. Brandt<tbng@comcast.net>
> Reply-To: hakirsch@aol.com
> Subject: Up by 7 at the Half
>
> We are not the only team that misses bunnies. BC does as well. Through luck
> and hustle we are doing well on the O boards getting quite a few 2nd
> chances. Still worried about our reliance on the 3,and we have held their
> best scorer scoreless which probably won't last long
>
> Hope we can beat the team I rooted for growing up. (That is until I
> enrolled at NU and BC had a few players go to jail for point shaving --well
> before NU's own troubles)
>
> Harry
> ------Original Message------
> From: Dennis W. Brandt
> Sender: nwu-sports-bounces@tssi.com
> To: nwu-sports@tssi.com
> Subject: Re: [NU Sports] On to face BC
> Sent: Mar 16, 2011 7:15 PM
>
> We'd better play better than that against BC or our AD will be unhappy, and
> we'll be right back at year zero.  Way too many blown inside shots,
> although
> that is hardly atypical.
>
>
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From neonrye at aol.com  Sat Mar 19 11:30:08 2011
From: neonrye at aol.com (neonrye@aol.com)
Date: Sat Mar 19 11:31:15 2011
Subject: [NU Sports] Fw: Up by 7 at the Half
In-Reply-To: <1F89BB2CE7A5B94D969618E8CC769CC3696FD163@XCHGBRS4.corp.espn.pvt>
References: <1747669862-1300549737-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-691447340-@bda2184.bisx.prod.on.blackberry><AANLkTikx+ozKG+DE3BP=mpOioJGWQQoioY0w1zgfs-H1@mail.gmail.com><1F89BB2CE7A5B94D969618E8CC769CC3696FD163@XCHGBRS4.corp.espn.pvt>
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Assuming we don't collapse in last 5 minutes,do we know who potential
 opponent(s) could be?  Is it either Wazzou or Okie State?  Either way, I guess we go on the road again.
Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry

-----Original Message-----
From: "Weinbaum, Willie" <Willie.Weinbaum@espn.com>
Sender: nwu-sports-bounces@tssi.com
Date: Sat, 19 Mar 2011 11:55:02 
Cc: nwu-sports@tssi.com<nwu-sports@tssi.com>
Subject: RE: [NU Sports] Fw: Up by 7 at the Half

One of the best-played halves by NU this season.  Strong efforts at both ends, smart play, etc.  Great to see.  Long way to go, but three strong halves of basketball and NU is back in NY (for the consolation Final Four). :)

-----Original Message-----
From: nwu-sports-bounces@tssi.com [mailto:nwu-sports-bounces@tssi.com] On Behalf Of Alan Abrahamson
Sent: Saturday, March 19, 2011 11:51 AM
To: hakirsch@aol.com
Cc: nwu-sports@tssi.com
Subject: Re: [NU Sports] Fw: Up by 7 at the Half

Their best player, Mr. Jackson, has zero points at the half. Zero.

If we keep that up, we will win. Pretty elemental math, ladies and
gentlemen.



On Sat, Mar 19, 2011 at 8:48 AM, <hakirsch@aol.com> wrote:

>
> Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: hakirsch@aol.com
> Date: Sat, 19 Mar 2011 15:45:35
> To: Dennis W. Brandt<tbng@comcast.net>
> Reply-To: hakirsch@aol.com
> Subject: Up by 7 at the Half
>
> We are not the only team that misses bunnies. BC does as well. Through luck
> and hustle we are doing well on the O boards getting quite a few 2nd
> chances. Still worried about our reliance on the 3,and we have held their
> best scorer scoreless which probably won't last long
>
> Hope we can beat the team I rooted for growing up. (That is until I
> enrolled at NU and BC had a few players go to jail for point shaving --well
> before NU's own troubles)
>
> Harry
> ------Original Message------
> From: Dennis W. Brandt
> Sender: nwu-sports-bounces@tssi.com
> To: nwu-sports@tssi.com
> Subject: Re: [NU Sports] On to face BC
> Sent: Mar 16, 2011 7:15 PM
>
> We'd better play better than that against BC or our AD will be unhappy, and
> we'll be right back at year zero.  Way too many blown inside shots,
> although
> that is hardly atypical.
>
>
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From hakirsch at aol.com  Sat Mar 19 11:44:19 2011
From: hakirsch at aol.com (hakirsch@aol.com)
Date: Sat Mar 19 11:44:28 2011
Subject: [NU Sports] Fw: Up by 7 at the Half
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I know the bar was low, but going to the 3rd round of the NIT is the farthest we have ever gone.  I went to the 2nd round of the NIT where we blew a 12 point lead to Depaul in 1983 in the final 4 minutes. Taken 28 years to finally get past that

Go Cats

Harry
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From: Alan Abrahamson <alan.abrahamson@gmail.com>
Date: Sat, 19 Mar 2011 08:51:21 
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Subject: Re: [NU Sports] Fw: Up by 7 at the Half

Their best player, Mr. Jackson, has zero points at the half. Zero.

If we keep that up, we will win. Pretty elemental math, ladies and
gentlemen.



On Sat, Mar 19, 2011 at 8:48 AM, <hakirsch@aol.com> wrote:

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> Date: Sat, 19 Mar 2011 15:45:35
> To: Dennis W. Brandt<tbng@comcast.net>
> Reply-To: hakirsch@aol.com
> Subject: Up by 7 at the Half
>
> We are not the only team that misses bunnies. BC does as well. Through luck
> and hustle we are doing well on the O boards getting quite a few 2nd
> chances. Still worried about our reliance on the 3,and we have held their
> best scorer scoreless which probably won't last long
>
> Hope we can beat the team I rooted for growing up. (That is until I
> enrolled at NU and BC had a few players go to jail for point shaving --well
> before NU's own troubles)
>
> Harry
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> Sent: Mar 16, 2011 7:15 PM
>
> We'd better play better than that against BC or our AD will be unhappy, and
> we'll be right back at year zero.  Way too many blown inside shots,
> although
> that is hardly atypical.
>
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From Willie.Weinbaum at espn.com  Sat Mar 19 11:44:22 2011
From: Willie.Weinbaum at espn.com (Weinbaum, Willie)
Date: Sat Mar 19 11:45:40 2011
Subject: [NU Sports] How about that!
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Great to see the Cats at their best.  An absolute pleasure to watch!

From alan.abrahamson at gmail.com  Sat Mar 19 11:51:35 2011
From: alan.abrahamson at gmail.com (Alan Abrahamson)
Date: Sat Mar 19 11:52:21 2011
Subject: [NU Sports] How about that!
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Agreed. That was an easy win. At one point near the end of the game, the
announcers said the Wildcats had 25 assists and the Eagles 22 field goals.
That is the way to play. Also, as I said earlier, locking down the other
team's best player -- uh, smart.

Looking ahead:

For those of you who have not seen Klay Thompson play -- if Washington State
beats Okie State -- Klay's dad is Mychal, who played a long while ago for
the Golden Gophers and then had himself a pretty fair NBA career :>

Klay had a sensational prep career in Orange County and then opted for the
bright lights of Pullman, Wash., where as a sophomore (last year) he was
first-team All Pac-10. The young man can play.



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From neonrye at aol.com  Sat Mar 19 11:56:29 2011
From: neonrye at aol.com (neonrye@aol.com)
Date: Sat Mar 19 11:57:43 2011
Subject: [NU Sports] How about that!
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It's bittersweet though.  Makes me think what might have been.  In any event, one more step to get (back) to MSG.  Go 'Cats!

One quick anecdote:  I am litigating in an arbitration in NYC.  There are 3 'Cats at the table--the Arbitrator (Vincent Vitkowsky '77), Zach Rosenblatt ('04) (paralegal for our opponents) and Yours Truly. We'll have to celebrate on Monday.:-)
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Great to see the Cats at their best.  An absolute pleasure to watch!

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From tbng at comcast.net  Sat Mar 19 12:46:38 2011
From: tbng at comcast.net (Dennis W. Brandt)
Date: Sat Mar 19 12:46:46 2011
Subject: [NU Sports] Cats beat BC
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Without question the best game they played all season.  What wonders can occur when you out-rebound the opposition.
From e-west at northwestern.edu  Sat Mar 19 13:37:29 2011
From: e-west at northwestern.edu (Eric West)
Date: Sat Mar 19 13:37:42 2011
Subject: [NU Sports] Cats beat BC
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On 3/19/2011 12:46 PM, Dennis W. Brandt wrote:
> Without question the best game they played all season.  What wonders can occur when you out-rebound the opposition.

Actually, I was going to say what wonders can occur when you aren't 
playing a tourney-bound Big Ten (or Big East) team. Certainly our best 
road performance, though I think Illinois and Michigan are both better 
than BC.

While I have been disappointed by this season's unmet expectations, I've 
never thought this was an awful team. They've been fairly consistent all 
year results-wise, with neither a horrible loss nor a great win. For 
better or worse, the NIT is where they belong, and it's good to see them 
competing well in it. Another tough road test looms, though hopefully 
they can benefit from a longer rest period.

Eric West
e-west@northwestern.edu

From alan.abrahamson at gmail.com  Sat Mar 19 14:49:39 2011
From: alan.abrahamson at gmail.com (Alan Abrahamson)
Date: Sat Mar 19 14:50:26 2011
Subject: [NU Sports] Cats beat BC
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Actually, this team isn't awful in the slightest.

The problems this year are self-evident:

1. Coble isn't playing.

2. Shurna was hurt for a good part of the Big Ten season.

3. We have no reliable inside game.

4. Our margin for error is so thin that we couldn't overcome problems 1, 2
and 3 consistently.

Going forward, it would again seem self-evident that getting to 20 wins, and
the historic second-round first-ever NIT victory, has saved Carmody's job.
Whether this is a good thing is debatable. The home-game debacle this season
against Wisconsin was, for me, just godawful brutal.

Referring to my list above, there's nothing Carmody could do about problem
No. 2. Problems No. 1, 3 and 4 are absolutely on him, and especially after
11 years. Quibble if you will about whether the Coble matter is on Coble or
Carmody; from my vantage point, one of the participants is 21 or 22 years
old and the other is -- not.

Reality check: It's not clear there would have been money around, especially
after whatever it took to keep Fitz -- I refer here to the run that Michigan
made at Fitz amid the departure of RichRod -- to hire anybody worth hiring
if Carmody were to exit stage right. But that is a separate issue.

The crux of the coaching matter is/was: is Carmody the guy to take
Northwestern to the NCAA tournament?

Or, depending on how you want to phrase the question: Is 11 years enough
time to make your case?

Alternatively, and I acknowledge that this phrasing totally changes the
dynamic of the question: Isn't 11 years enough time?

BTW, and let me stress: I don't have any inside information of any sort. I'm
1800 miles away from Evanston here in SoCal. I only know what I read in the
newspapers. But two plus two is often, you know, four.

Next year, Shurna, assuming he stays healthy, is a first-team All-American
candidate. If we have a legitimate point guard, and can find any sort of
inside presence, we should be NCAA-tourney good. I do not belong to the "oh,
gosh, we are going to have a freshman running the offense and that sucks"
school. Last I looked, a lot of really, really good freshman were playing
college basketball, and going right from their freshman years to the NBA.

I second the motion that my friend Darren Rovell made in his remarks to the
New York Times a couple days ago, in the piece about us not making the NCAA
tournament for the 73rd straight year. "This has to stop," Darren said, and
I concur. This has to stop. It's not funny. Northwestern stands for
excellence in everything. We must make the tournament, and next year. This
has to stop.

As for this NIT -- again, this Boston College game was the best this team
has played all year. The stats say 27 assists on 34 field goals. If the Cats
are going to peak -- might as well peak in March, right? A healthy John
Shurna makes a huge, huge difference.

All comments more than welcome. After these many years together on the list,
I would hope that some/most/all of you would have an opinion about the state
of the men's basketball team as we dash into unchartered territory, the
third round of the NIT.

Go Wildcats -- expecting victory -- Alan









On Sat, Mar 19, 2011 at 11:37 AM, Eric West <e-west@northwestern.edu> wrote:

> On 3/19/2011 12:46 PM, Dennis W. Brandt wrote:
>
>> Without question the best game they played all season.  What wonders can
>> occur when you out-rebound the opposition.
>>
>
> Actually, I was going to say what wonders can occur when you aren't playing
> a tourney-bound Big Ten (or Big East) team. Certainly our best road
> performance, though I think Illinois and Michigan are both better than BC.
>
> While I have been disappointed by this season's unmet expectations, I've
> never thought this was an awful team. They've been fairly consistent all
> year results-wise, with neither a horrible loss nor a great win. For better
> or worse, the NIT is where they belong, and it's good to see them competing
> well in it. Another tough road test looms, though hopefully they can benefit
> from a longer rest period.
>
> Eric West
> e-west@northwestern.edu
>
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From Hakirsch at aol.com  Sat Mar 19 14:55:09 2011
From: Hakirsch at aol.com (Hakirsch@aol.com)
Date: Sat Mar 19 14:55:16 2011
Subject: [NU Sports] Cats beat BC
Message-ID: <dcc6.45557916.3ab6641d@aol.com>

Coble still has a year of eligibility--Can he be enticed back next year ?

Harry
From snelson at hbs.edu  Sat Mar 19 15:08:04 2011
From: snelson at hbs.edu (Nelson, Steven)
Date: Sat Mar 19 15:08:30 2011
Subject: [NU Sports] RE: How about that!
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It was a great game - and a lot of fun for those us in attendance.  Before heading in to the locker room after the end of the game, the team came over and gave a nice wave of appreciation to the Cats fans who were in attendance.  The team was grinning from ear to ear, as were we.  An impressive group of young men.

Steve

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Great to see the Cats at their best.  An absolute pleasure to watch!

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From tbng at comcast.net  Sat Mar 19 15:50:45 2011
From: tbng at comcast.net (Dennis W. Brandt)
Date: Sat Mar 19 15:50:54 2011
Subject: [NU Sports] Cats beat BC
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> Next year, Shurna, assuming he stays healthy, is a first-team All-American
> candidate. If we have a legitimate point guard, and can find any sort of
> inside presence, we should be NCAA-tourney good. I do not belong to the 
> "oh,
> gosh, we are going to have a freshman running the offense and that sucks"
> school. Last I looked, a lot of really, really good freshman were playing
> college basketball, and going right from their freshman years to the NBA.

The four C's - Cobb, Crawford, Curletti, and Capocci - have to become the 
four A's next year - their play, that is.  IF Crawford finally becomes the 
dominant player everyone keeps saying he should be and IF Cobb does a 
Shurna-like improvement from frosh to soph year and IF Curletti and Capocci 
play off the bench as they did in the last portion of this season and not 
like the rest of this season and IF all of them can remain healthy, then we 
can get into the tourney as a bubble team.  IF all that happens and IF we 
obtain a good center, we could vie for the conference title and be a sure 
tourney selection.  Those are more IFs than Rudyard Kipling could handle, so 
I'll hold the celebration until I see it happen.

Yep, Carmody gets one more year - at least.  Only time will tell whether 
that is good or bad. 


From hakirsch at aol.com  Sat Mar 19 17:00:57 2011
From: hakirsch at aol.com (hakirsch@aol.com)
Date: Sat Mar 19 17:01:04 2011
Subject: [NU Sports] Cats beat BC
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Dennis is actually more optimistic than me.  While he throws a bunch of ifs in his analysis, I don't see Shurna as an All American candidate, just a solid BT player.  I think we could make the expanded tournament and even get a W early on but we still will likely have a lot of holes.  Size is still key,particularly in the BT. We will still be woefully behind the conference's best unless a lot more guys go pro than I think will

Relying on treys is great if you can make them like we did today and some other games,but it is a risky business not only because shooters can get cold but defenses can eventually figure out that you might have a weak inside game and play tighter on the good 
shooters. To me, Dennis and I agree on one major item; the need for a solid big man. Without that we are limited going forward 

Still while disappointed that we couldn't live up to the expectations of so many this year and get asked to the dance,I'm thrilled that we are in unchartered territory.  No matter what happens going forward,we can all say we went further in the post season than ever before.  And yes that means we must keep BC at least one more year

Harry
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Subject: Re: [NU Sports] Cats beat BC

> Next year, Shurna, assuming he stays healthy, is a first-team All-American
> candidate. If we have a legitimate point guard, and can find any sort of
> inside presence, we should be NCAA-tourney good. I do not belong to the 
> "oh,
> gosh, we are going to have a freshman running the offense and that sucks"
> school. Last I looked, a lot of really, really good freshman were playing
> college basketball, and going right from their freshman years to the NBA.

The four C's - Cobb, Crawford, Curletti, and Capocci - have to become the 
four A's next year - their play, that is.  IF Crawford finally becomes the 
dominant player everyone keeps saying he should be and IF Cobb does a 
Shurna-like improvement from frosh to soph year and IF Curletti and Capocci 
play off the bench as they did in the last portion of this season and not 
like the rest of this season and IF all of them can remain healthy, then we 
can get into the tourney as a bubble team.  IF all that happens and IF we 
obtain a good center, we could vie for the conference title and be a sure 
tourney selection.  Those are more IFs than Rudyard Kipling could handle, so 
I'll hold the celebration until I see it happen.

Yep, Carmody gets one more year - at least.  Only time will tell whether 
that is good or bad. 


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From scottzel at gmail.com  Sat Mar 19 17:12:58 2011
From: scottzel at gmail.com (Scott Zeller, M.D.)
Date: Sat Mar 19 17:13:03 2011
Subject: [NU Sports] Cats beat BC
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How about this? In just four days NU has equalled the number of postseason
wins (2) it totalled in program history before this year. Yikes!

On Sat, Mar 19, 2011 at 3:00 PM, <hakirsch@aol.com> wrote:

> Dennis is actually more optimistic than me.  While he throws a bunch of ifs
> in his analysis, I don't see Shurna as an All American candidate, just a
> solid BT player.  I think we could make the expanded tournament and even get
> a W early on but we still will likely have a lot of holes.  Size is still
> key,particularly in the BT. We will still be woefully behind the
> conference's best unless a lot more guys go pro than I think will
>
> Relying on treys is great if you can make them like we did today and some
> other games,but it is a risky business not only because shooters can get
> cold but defenses can eventually figure out that you might have a weak
> inside game and play tighter on the good
> shooters. To me, Dennis and I agree on one major item; the need for a solid
> big man. Without that we are limited going forward
>
> Still while disappointed that we couldn't live up to the expectations of so
> many this year and get asked to the dance,I'm thrilled that we are in
> unchartered territory.  No matter what happens going forward,we can all say
> we went further in the post season than ever before.  And yes that means we
> must keep BC at least one more year
>
> Harry
> Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: "Dennis W. Brandt" <tbng@comcast.net>
> Sender: nwu-sports-bounces@tssi.com
> Date: Sat, 19 Mar 2011 16:50:45
> To: <nwu-sports@tssi.com>
> Subject: Re: [NU Sports] Cats beat BC
>
> > Next year, Shurna, assuming he stays healthy, is a first-team
> All-American
> > candidate. If we have a legitimate point guard, and can find any sort of
> > inside presence, we should be NCAA-tourney good. I do not belong to the
> > "oh,
> > gosh, we are going to have a freshman running the offense and that sucks"
> > school. Last I looked, a lot of really, really good freshman were playing
> > college basketball, and going right from their freshman years to the NBA.
>
> The four C's - Cobb, Crawford, Curletti, and Capocci - have to become the
> four A's next year - their play, that is.  IF Crawford finally becomes the
> dominant player everyone keeps saying he should be and IF Cobb does a
> Shurna-like improvement from frosh to soph year and IF Curletti and Capocci
> play off the bench as they did in the last portion of this season and not
> like the rest of this season and IF all of them can remain healthy, then we
> can get into the tourney as a bubble team.  IF all that happens and IF we
> obtain a good center, we could vie for the conference title and be a sure
> tourney selection.  Those are more IFs than Rudyard Kipling could handle,
> so
> I'll hold the celebration until I see it happen.
>
> Yep, Carmody gets one more year - at least.  Only time will tell whether
> that is good or bad.
>
>
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From Willie.Weinbaum at espn.com  Sat Mar 19 18:12:03 2011
From: Willie.Weinbaum at espn.com (Weinbaum, Willie)
Date: Sat Mar 19 18:13:32 2011
Subject: [NU Sports] Cats beat BC
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This alum chooses to revel in the gratifying performance by this team and to avoid looking back at an inglorious past or worrying about an uncertain future.  So happy the team achieved what it did, the way it did, on a national telecast, with announcers lauding their game and their concurrent commitment to studies and final exams.  It is a great reward for the team and its efforts and, secondarily, for all of us who've followed everything so closely and passionately.   It's not the NCAA's, but seeing the joy on the faces of the Wildcats as they pulled off a wonderfully played game in the NIT sure was special.  

>From Blackberry - please excuse typos

W. Weinbaum
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Subject: Re: [NU Sports] Cats beat BC

How about this? In just four days NU has equalled the number of postseason
wins (2) it totalled in program history before this year. Yikes!

On Sat, Mar 19, 2011 at 3:00 PM, <hakirsch@aol.com> wrote:

> Dennis is actually more optimistic than me.  While he throws a bunch of ifs
> in his analysis, I don't see Shurna as an All American candidate, just a
> solid BT player.  I think we could make the expanded tournament and even get
> a W early on but we still will likely have a lot of holes.  Size is still
> key,particularly in the BT. We will still be woefully behind the
> conference's best unless a lot more guys go pro than I think will
>
> Relying on treys is great if you can make them like we did today and some
> other games,but it is a risky business not only because shooters can get
> cold but defenses can eventually figure out that you might have a weak
> inside game and play tighter on the good
> shooters. To me, Dennis and I agree on one major item; the need for a solid
> big man. Without that we are limited going forward
>
> Still while disappointed that we couldn't live up to the expectations of so
> many this year and get asked to the dance,I'm thrilled that we are in
> unchartered territory.  No matter what happens going forward,we can all say
> we went further in the post season than ever before.  And yes that means we
> must keep BC at least one more year
>
> Harry
> Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: "Dennis W. Brandt" <tbng@comcast.net>
> Sender: nwu-sports-bounces@tssi.com
> Date: Sat, 19 Mar 2011 16:50:45
> To: <nwu-sports@tssi.com>
> Subject: Re: [NU Sports] Cats beat BC
>
> > Next year, Shurna, assuming he stays healthy, is a first-team
> All-American
> > candidate. If we have a legitimate point guard, and can find any sort of
> > inside presence, we should be NCAA-tourney good. I do not belong to the
> > "oh,
> > gosh, we are going to have a freshman running the offense and that sucks"
> > school. Last I looked, a lot of really, really good freshman were playing
> > college basketball, and going right from their freshman years to the NBA.
>
> The four C's - Cobb, Crawford, Curletti, and Capocci - have to become the
> four A's next year - their play, that is.  IF Crawford finally becomes the
> dominant player everyone keeps saying he should be and IF Cobb does a
> Shurna-like improvement from frosh to soph year and IF Curletti and Capocci
> play off the bench as they did in the last portion of this season and not
> like the rest of this season and IF all of them can remain healthy, then we
> can get into the tourney as a bubble team.  IF all that happens and IF we
> obtain a good center, we could vie for the conference title and be a sure
> tourney selection.  Those are more IFs than Rudyard Kipling could handle,
> so
> I'll hold the celebration until I see it happen.
>
> Yep, Carmody gets one more year - at least.  Only time will tell whether
> that is good or bad.
>
>
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From thehaze at earthlink.net  Sat Mar 19 18:24:10 2011
From: thehaze at earthlink.net (Jim Bendat)
Date: Sat Mar 19 18:24:34 2011
Subject: [NU Sports] Cats beat BC
Message-ID: <17874592.1300577051130.JavaMail.root@wamui-hunyo.atl.sa.earthlink.net>

Thanks for giving the team its proper due, Willie, and for putting the season into its proper perspective. Many of us often get caught up in the would'ves, could'ves and should'ves. -- Jim B.


-----Original Message-----
>From: "Weinbaum, Willie" <Willie.Weinbaum@espn.com>
>Sent: Mar 19, 2011 4:12 PM
>To: "'nwu-sports@tssi.com'" <nwu-sports@tssi.com>
>Subject: Re: [NU Sports] Cats beat BC
>
>This alum chooses to revel in the gratifying performance by this team and to avoid looking back at an inglorious past or worrying about an uncertain future.  So happy the team achieved what it did, the way it did, on a national telecast, with announcers lauding their game and their concurrent commitment to studies and final exams.  It is a great reward for the team and its efforts and, secondarily, for all of us who've followed everything so closely and passionately.   It's not the NCAA's, but seeing the joy on the faces of the Wildcats as they pulled off a wonderfully played game in the NIT sure was special.  
>
>>From Blackberry - please excuse typos
>
>W. Weinbaum
>

From tbng at comcast.net  Sat Mar 19 19:46:17 2011
From: tbng at comcast.net (Dennis W. Brandt)
Date: Sat Mar 19 19:46:38 2011
Subject: [NU Sports] Cats beat BC
References: <17874592.1300577051130.JavaMail.root@wamui-hunyo.atl.sa.earthlink.net>
Message-ID: <12A6D9214F45411BA5FAB5B6EC2BA807@dennismachine>

> Thanks for giving the team its proper due, Willie, and for putting the 
> season into its proper perspective. Many of us often get caught up in the 
> would'ves, could'ves and should'ves. -- Jim B.

Probably because the only things any NU alum in history has ever had were 
"would'ves, could'ves, and should'ves." 


From jintsjason at me.com  Sun Mar 20 09:52:53 2011
From: jintsjason at me.com (Jason Singer)
Date: Sun Mar 20 09:52:58 2011
Subject: [NU Sports] Nice little article about why the Cats lacrosse tam is
 playing in Jerry World.
Message-ID: <C989D79A-8BC4-4978-8466-91F1C5CA7D55@me.com>

http://sports.espn.go.com/ncaa/columns/story?columnist=voepel_mechelle&id=6231753

Jason Singer
jintsjason@me.com
jason@jasonsinger.com




From MHRJGScott at aol.com  Sun Mar 20 18:26:34 2011
From: MHRJGScott at aol.com (MHRJGScott@aol.com)
Date: Sun Mar 20 18:26:51 2011
Subject: [NU Sports] Nice little article about why the Cats lacrosse tam
	is playin...
Message-ID: <da6a.21fe6433.3ab7e72a@aol.com>

Nice story. I went to the Cats baseball game against Dartmouth in Winter  
Haven today, after blowing the lead in the top of the ninth the Cats came 
back  to win 3-2. They are a spirited bunch.
From neonrye at aol.com  Sun Mar 20 18:41:49 2011
From: neonrye at aol.com (neonrye@aol.com)
Date: Sun Mar 20 18:42:08 2011
Subject: [NU Sports] Cats beat BC
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I think --as has been pointed out in emails yesterday after the game--that BC's big test will come AFTER the NIT, unless we shock the world and win the damn thing.:-)  Can he recruit a top Point Guard to come in as a freshman and replace Juice and run the offense?  We have enough pieces coming back to be more than decent, but without someone to distribute the ball and quarterback the "O", those pieces may be in limbo.  Shurna will be solid, if he stays healthy, and the supporting cast is not bad when they all hit the boards.  A solid PG, combined with a mobile, defensive-minded big body in the low blocks, would represent a healthy rrecruiting class, IMHO.

Paul Levinson






-----Original Message-----
From: hakirsch@aol.com
To: Dennis W. Brandt <tbng@comcast.net>; nwu-sports-bounces@tssi.com; nwu-sports@tssi.com
Sent: Sat, Mar 19, 2011 6:00 pm
Subject: Re: [NU Sports] Cats beat BC


Dennis is actually more optimistic than me.  While he throws a bunch of ifs in 
is analysis, I don't see Shurna as an All American candidate, just a solid BT 
layer.  I think we could make the expanded tournament and even get a W early on 
ut we still will likely have a lot of holes.  Size is still key,particularly in 
he BT. We will still be woefully behind the conference's best unless a lot more 
uys go pro than I think will
Relying on treys is great if you can make them like we did today and some other 
ames,but it is a risky business not only because shooters can get cold but 
efenses can eventually figure out that you might have a weak inside game and 
lay tighter on the good 
hooters. To me, Dennis and I agree on one major item; the need for a solid big 
an. Without that we are limited going forward 
Still while disappointed that we couldn't live up to the expectations of so many 
his year and get asked to the dance,I'm thrilled that we are in unchartered 
erritory.  No matter what happens going forward,we can all say we went further 
n the post season than ever before.  And yes that means we must keep BC at 
east one more year
Harry
ent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry
-----Original Message-----
rom: "Dennis W. Brandt" <tbng@comcast.net>
ender: nwu-sports-bounces@tssi.com
ate: Sat, 19 Mar 2011 16:50:45 
o: <nwu-sports@tssi.com>
ubject: Re: [NU Sports] Cats beat BC
> Next year, Shurna, assuming he stays healthy, is a first-team All-American
 candidate. If we have a legitimate point guard, and can find any sort of
 inside presence, we should be NCAA-tourney good. I do not belong to the 
 "oh,
 gosh, we are going to have a freshman running the offense and that sucks"
 school. Last I looked, a lot of really, really good freshman were playing
 college basketball, and going right from their freshman years to the NBA.
The four C's - Cobb, Crawford, Curletti, and Capocci - have to become the 
our A's next year - their play, that is.  IF Crawford finally becomes the 
ominant player everyone keeps saying he should be and IF Cobb does a 
hurna-like improvement from frosh to soph year and IF Curletti and Capocci 
lay off the bench as they did in the last portion of this season and not 
ike the rest of this season and IF all of them can remain healthy, then we 
an get into the tourney as a bubble team.  IF all that happens and IF we 
btain a good center, we could vie for the conference title and be a sure 
ourney selection.  Those are more IFs than Rudyard Kipling could handle, so 
'll hold the celebration until I see it happen.
Yep, Carmody gets one more year - at least.  Only time will tell whether 
hat is good or bad. 

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From scottzel at gmail.com  Sun Mar 20 19:10:19 2011
From: scottzel at gmail.com (Scott Zeller, M.D.)
Date: Sun Mar 20 19:10:24 2011
Subject: [NU Sports] Cats beat BC
In-Reply-To: <8CDB56F844D5141-23C8-24375@webmail-m133.sysops.aol.com>
References: <4A70678CA12048348E29EB3515BC8698@dennismachine>
	<4D84F7E9.20907@northwestern.edu>
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	<A552DD085DD04DD786817092917699BE@dennismachine>
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	<8CDB56F844D5141-23C8-24375@webmail-m133.sysops.aol.com>
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You are aware NU has already signed two point guards for next year's
freshman class? 6'3" Tre Demps, a Rivals 3-star out of Texas, and 6'1" David
Sobolewski, who ESPN said is the 86th best point guard in the country. Also
signed is Michael Turner, a 6'8" power forward from Chicago.
On Sun, Mar 20, 2011 at 4:41 PM, <neonrye@aol.com> wrote:

>
> I think --as has been pointed out in emails yesterday after the game--that
> BC's big test will come AFTER the NIT, unless we shock the world and win the
> damn thing.:-)  Can he recruit a top Point Guard to come in as a freshman
> and replace Juice and run the offense?  We have enough pieces coming back to
> be more than decent, but without someone to distribute the ball and
> quarterback the "O", those pieces may be in limbo.  Shurna will be solid, if
> he stays healthy, and the supporting cast is not bad when they all hit the
> boards.  A solid PG, combined with a mobile, defensive-minded big body in
> the low blocks, would represent a healthy rrecruiting class, IMHO.
>
> Paul Levinson
>
>
>
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: hakirsch@aol.com
> To: Dennis W. Brandt <tbng@comcast.net>; nwu-sports-bounces@tssi.com;
> nwu-sports@tssi.com
> Sent: Sat, Mar 19, 2011 6:00 pm
> Subject: Re: [NU Sports] Cats beat BC
>
>
> Dennis is actually more optimistic than me.  While he throws a bunch of ifs
> in
> is analysis, I don't see Shurna as an All American candidate, just a solid
> BT
> layer.  I think we could make the expanded tournament and even get a W
> early on
> ut we still will likely have a lot of holes.  Size is still
> key,particularly in
> he BT. We will still be woefully behind the conference's best unless a lot
> more
> uys go pro than I think will
> Relying on treys is great if you can make them like we did today and some
> other
> ames,but it is a risky business not only because shooters can get cold but
> efenses can eventually figure out that you might have a weak inside game
> and
> lay tighter on the good
> hooters. To me, Dennis and I agree on one major item; the need for a solid
> big
> an. Without that we are limited going forward
> Still while disappointed that we couldn't live up to the expectations of so
> many
> his year and get asked to the dance,I'm thrilled that we are in unchartered
> erritory.  No matter what happens going forward,we can all say we went
> further
> n the post season than ever before.  And yes that means we must keep BC at
> east one more year
> Harry
> ent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry
> -----Original Message-----
> rom: "Dennis W. Brandt" <tbng@comcast.net>
> ender: nwu-sports-bounces@tssi.com
> ate: Sat, 19 Mar 2011 16:50:45
> o: <nwu-sports@tssi.com>
> ubject: Re: [NU Sports] Cats beat BC
> > Next year, Shurna, assuming he stays healthy, is a first-team
> All-American
>  candidate. If we have a legitimate point guard, and can find any sort of
>  inside presence, we should be NCAA-tourney good. I do not belong to the
>  "oh,
>  gosh, we are going to have a freshman running the offense and that sucks"
>  school. Last I looked, a lot of really, really good freshman were playing
>  college basketball, and going right from their freshman years to the NBA.
> The four C's - Cobb, Crawford, Curletti, and Capocci - have to become the
> our A's next year - their play, that is.  IF Crawford finally becomes the
> ominant player everyone keeps saying he should be and IF Cobb does a
> hurna-like improvement from frosh to soph year and IF Curletti and Capocci
> lay off the bench as they did in the last portion of this season and not
> ike the rest of this season and IF all of them can remain healthy, then we
> an get into the tourney as a bubble team.  IF all that happens and IF we
> btain a good center, we could vie for the conference title and be a sure
> ourney selection.  Those are more IFs than Rudyard Kipling could handle, so
> 'll hold the celebration until I see it happen.
> Yep, Carmody gets one more year - at least.  Only time will tell whether
> hat is good or bad.
>
> ______________________________________________
> wu-sports site list
> wu-sports@tssi.com
> ttp://romaine.tssi.com/mailman/listinfo/nwu-sports
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>
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From neonrye at aol.com  Sun Mar 20 20:52:39 2011
From: neonrye at aol.com (neonrye@aol.com)
Date: Sun Mar 20 20:53:57 2011
Subject: [NU Sports] Cats beat BC
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTinFXShmdLDT8hW-V61gAGL2LipGnM2c1G3OzjQe@mail.gmail.com>
References: <4A70678CA12048348E29EB3515BC8698@dennismachine><4D84F7E9.20907@northwestern.edu><AANLkTikfuFbzTkgkfuiKBpM3FSALN_Hq6CpNGVN5O5Uc@mail.gmail.com><A552DD085DD04DD786817092917699BE@dennismachine><174421228-1300572058-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-1077467167-@bda2184.bisx.prod.on.blackberry><8CDB56F844D5141-23C8-24375@webmail-m133.sysops.aol.com><AANLkTinFXShmdLDT8hW-V61gAGL2LipGnM2c1G3OzjQe@mail.gmail.com>
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Now I am,;-_)
Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry

-----Original Message-----
From: "Scott Zeller, M.D." <scottzel@gmail.com>
Sender: nwu-sports-bounces@tssi.com
Date: Sun, 20 Mar 2011 17:10:19 
To: <nwu-sports@tssi.com>
Subject: Re: [NU Sports] Cats beat BC

You are aware NU has already signed two point guards for next year's
freshman class? 6'3" Tre Demps, a Rivals 3-star out of Texas, and 6'1" David
Sobolewski, who ESPN said is the 86th best point guard in the country. Also
signed is Michael Turner, a 6'8" power forward from Chicago.
On Sun, Mar 20, 2011 at 4:41 PM, <neonrye@aol.com> wrote:

>
> I think --as has been pointed out in emails yesterday after the game--that
> BC's big test will come AFTER the NIT, unless we shock the world and win the
> damn thing.:-)  Can he recruit a top Point Guard to come in as a freshman
> and replace Juice and run the offense?  We have enough pieces coming back to
> be more than decent, but without someone to distribute the ball and
> quarterback the "O", those pieces may be in limbo.  Shurna will be solid, if
> he stays healthy, and the supporting cast is not bad when they all hit the
> boards.  A solid PG, combined with a mobile, defensive-minded big body in
> the low blocks, would represent a healthy rrecruiting class, IMHO.
>
> Paul Levinson
>
>
>
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: hakirsch@aol.com
> To: Dennis W. Brandt <tbng@comcast.net>; nwu-sports-bounces@tssi.com;
> nwu-sports@tssi.com
> Sent: Sat, Mar 19, 2011 6:00 pm
> Subject: Re: [NU Sports] Cats beat BC
>
>
> Dennis is actually more optimistic than me.  While he throws a bunch of ifs
> in
> is analysis, I don't see Shurna as an All American candidate, just a solid
> BT
> layer.  I think we could make the expanded tournament and even get a W
> early on
> ut we still will likely have a lot of holes.  Size is still
> key,particularly in
> he BT. We will still be woefully behind the conference's best unless a lot
> more
> uys go pro than I think will
> Relying on treys is great if you can make them like we did today and some
> other
> ames,but it is a risky business not only because shooters can get cold but
> efenses can eventually figure out that you might have a weak inside game
> and
> lay tighter on the good
> hooters. To me, Dennis and I agree on one major item; the need for a solid
> big
> an. Without that we are limited going forward
> Still while disappointed that we couldn't live up to the expectations of so
> many
> his year and get asked to the dance,I'm thrilled that we are in unchartered
> erritory.  No matter what happens going forward,we can all say we went
> further
> n the post season than ever before.  And yes that means we must keep BC at
> east one more year
> Harry
> ent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry
> -----Original Message-----
> rom: "Dennis W. Brandt" <tbng@comcast.net>
> ender: nwu-sports-bounces@tssi.com
> ate: Sat, 19 Mar 2011 16:50:45
> o: <nwu-sports@tssi.com>
> ubject: Re: [NU Sports] Cats beat BC
> > Next year, Shurna, assuming he stays healthy, is a first-team
> All-American
>  candidate. If we have a legitimate point guard, and can find any sort of
>  inside presence, we should be NCAA-tourney good. I do not belong to the
>  "oh,
>  gosh, we are going to have a freshman running the offense and that sucks"
>  school. Last I looked, a lot of really, really good freshman were playing
>  college basketball, and going right from their freshman years to the NBA.
> The four C's - Cobb, Crawford, Curletti, and Capocci - have to become the
> our A's next year - their play, that is.  IF Crawford finally becomes the
> ominant player everyone keeps saying he should be and IF Cobb does a
> hurna-like improvement from frosh to soph year and IF Curletti and Capocci
> lay off the bench as they did in the last portion of this season and not
> ike the rest of this season and IF all of them can remain healthy, then we
> an get into the tourney as a bubble team.  IF all that happens and IF we
> btain a good center, we could vie for the conference title and be a sure
> ourney selection.  Those are more IFs than Rudyard Kipling could handle, so
> 'll hold the celebration until I see it happen.
> Yep, Carmody gets one more year - at least.  Only time will tell whether
> hat is good or bad.
>
> ______________________________________________
> wu-sports site list
> wu-sports@tssi.com
> ttp://romaine.tssi.com/mailman/listinfo/nwu-sports
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>
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From rstetson at capps-assoc.com  Sun Mar 20 22:17:53 2011
From: rstetson at capps-assoc.com (Roy S. Lamberton)
Date: Sun Mar 20 22:17:49 2011
Subject: [NU Sports] Cats beat BC
In-Reply-To: <dcc6.45557916.3ab6641d@aol.com>
References: <dcc6.45557916.3ab6641d@aol.com>
Message-ID: <007001cbe776$91605d80$b4211880$@com>

There was an article a few weeks ago that suggested that he was concentrating on becoming
a roundball coach and that his playing days were over.

If BC had been fired this year, he might have considered a grad degree, but I don't see
them coming to any kind of agreement for Coble's return - especially since the story about
Coble's side was repeated in great detail in the 2nd story.

Besides, we're going to need a wildly accurate bomb shooting point guard next year. I
think we're kinda OK at forward.

rsl

++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
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  Senior League Softball World Series
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-----Original Message-----
From: nwu-sports-bounces@tssi.com [mailto:nwu-sports-bounces@tssi.com] On Behalf Of
Hakirsch@aol.com
Sent: Saturday, March 19, 2011 3:55 PM
To: alan.abrahamson@gmail.com; e-west@northwestern.edu
Cc: nwu-sports@tssi.com
Subject: Re: [NU Sports] Cats beat BC

Coble still has a year of eligibility--Can he be enticed back next year ?

Harry
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From rstetson at capps-assoc.com  Sun Mar 20 22:22:02 2011
From: rstetson at capps-assoc.com (Roy S. Lamberton)
Date: Sun Mar 20 22:21:58 2011
Subject: [NU Sports] Nice little article about why the Cats lacrosse tam
	is playing in Jerry World.
In-Reply-To: <C989D79A-8BC4-4978-8466-91F1C5CA7D55@me.com>
References: <C989D79A-8BC4-4978-8466-91F1C5CA7D55@me.com>
Message-ID: <007101cbe777$25f81190$71e834b0$@com>

I tell everyone who will listen that if I had an 8 year old daughter, I would buy her a
Lacrosse stick.

rsl

++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
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Singer
Sent: Sunday, March 20, 2011 10:53 AM
To: Northwestern Wildcats
Subject: [NU Sports] Nice little article about why the Cats lacrosse tam is playing in
Jerry World.

http://sports.espn.go.com/ncaa/columns/story?columnist=voepel_mechelle&id=6231753

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From rstetson at capps-assoc.com  Sun Mar 20 22:23:23 2011
From: rstetson at capps-assoc.com (Roy S. Lamberton)
Date: Sun Mar 20 22:23:30 2011
Subject: [NU Sports] Cats beat BC
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References: <4A70678CA12048348E29EB3515BC8698@dennismachine><4D84F7E9.20907@northwestern.edu><AANLkTikfuFbzTkgkfuiKBpM3FSALN_Hq6CpNGVN5O5Uc@mail.gmail.com><A552DD085DD04DD786817092917699BE@dennismachine><174421228-1300572058-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-1077467167-@bda2184.bisx.prod.on.blackberry><8CDB56F844D5141-23C8-24375@webmail-m133.sysops.aol.com><AANLkTinFXShmdLDT8hW-V61gAGL2LipGnM2c1G3OzjQe@mail.gmail.com>
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I think they let Cobb run point a couple of times too.

Altho he spent most of the year figuring out how to play in the NU/Princeton system.

rsl

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-----Original Message-----
From: nwu-sports-bounces@tssi.com [mailto:nwu-sports-bounces@tssi.com] On Behalf Of
neonrye@aol.com
Sent: Sunday, March 20, 2011 9:53 PM
To: Scott Zeller, M.D.; nwu-sports-bounces@tssi.com; nwu-sports@tssi.com
Subject: Re: [NU Sports] Cats beat BC

Now I am,;-_)
Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry

-----Original Message-----
From: "Scott Zeller, M.D." <scottzel@gmail.com>
Sender: nwu-sports-bounces@tssi.com
Date: Sun, 20 Mar 2011 17:10:19 
To: <nwu-sports@tssi.com>
Subject: Re: [NU Sports] Cats beat BC

You are aware NU has already signed two point guards for next year's
freshman class? 6'3" Tre Demps, a Rivals 3-star out of Texas, and 6'1" David
Sobolewski, who ESPN said is the 86th best point guard in the country. Also
signed is Michael Turner, a 6'8" power forward from Chicago.
On Sun, Mar 20, 2011 at 4:41 PM, <neonrye@aol.com> wrote:

>
> I think --as has been pointed out in emails yesterday after the game--that
> BC's big test will come AFTER the NIT, unless we shock the world and win the
> damn thing.:-)  Can he recruit a top Point Guard to come in as a freshman
> and replace Juice and run the offense?  We have enough pieces coming back to
> be more than decent, but without someone to distribute the ball and
> quarterback the "O", those pieces may be in limbo.  Shurna will be solid, if
> he stays healthy, and the supporting cast is not bad when they all hit the
> boards.  A solid PG, combined with a mobile, defensive-minded big body in
> the low blocks, would represent a healthy rrecruiting class, IMHO.
>
> Paul Levinson
>
>
>
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: hakirsch@aol.com
> To: Dennis W. Brandt <tbng@comcast.net>; nwu-sports-bounces@tssi.com;
> nwu-sports@tssi.com
> Sent: Sat, Mar 19, 2011 6:00 pm
> Subject: Re: [NU Sports] Cats beat BC
>
>
> Dennis is actually more optimistic than me.  While he throws a bunch of ifs
> in
> is analysis, I don't see Shurna as an All American candidate, just a solid
> BT
> layer.  I think we could make the expanded tournament and even get a W
> early on
> ut we still will likely have a lot of holes.  Size is still
> key,particularly in
> he BT. We will still be woefully behind the conference's best unless a lot
> more
> uys go pro than I think will
> Relying on treys is great if you can make them like we did today and some
> other
> ames,but it is a risky business not only because shooters can get cold but
> efenses can eventually figure out that you might have a weak inside game
> and
> lay tighter on the good
> hooters. To me, Dennis and I agree on one major item; the need for a solid
> big
> an. Without that we are limited going forward
> Still while disappointed that we couldn't live up to the expectations of so
> many
> his year and get asked to the dance,I'm thrilled that we are in unchartered
> erritory.  No matter what happens going forward,we can all say we went
> further
> n the post season than ever before.  And yes that means we must keep BC at
> east one more year
> Harry
> ent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry
> -----Original Message-----
> rom: "Dennis W. Brandt" <tbng@comcast.net>
> ender: nwu-sports-bounces@tssi.com
> ate: Sat, 19 Mar 2011 16:50:45
> o: <nwu-sports@tssi.com>
> ubject: Re: [NU Sports] Cats beat BC
> > Next year, Shurna, assuming he stays healthy, is a first-team
> All-American
>  candidate. If we have a legitimate point guard, and can find any sort of
>  inside presence, we should be NCAA-tourney good. I do not belong to the
>  "oh,
>  gosh, we are going to have a freshman running the offense and that sucks"
>  school. Last I looked, a lot of really, really good freshman were playing
>  college basketball, and going right from their freshman years to the NBA.
> The four C's - Cobb, Crawford, Curletti, and Capocci - have to become the
> our A's next year - their play, that is.  IF Crawford finally becomes the
> ominant player everyone keeps saying he should be and IF Cobb does a
> hurna-like improvement from frosh to soph year and IF Curletti and Capocci
> lay off the bench as they did in the last portion of this season and not
> ike the rest of this season and IF all of them can remain healthy, then we
> an get into the tourney as a bubble team.  IF all that happens and IF we
> btain a good center, we could vie for the conference title and be a sure
> ourney selection.  Those are more IFs than Rudyard Kipling could handle, so
> 'll hold the celebration until I see it happen.
> Yep, Carmody gets one more year - at least.  Only time will tell whether
> hat is good or bad.
>
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From MHRJGScott at aol.com  Mon Mar 21 15:25:57 2011
From: MHRJGScott at aol.com (MHRJGScott@aol.com)
Date: Mon Mar 21 15:26:18 2011
Subject: [NU Sports] Fwd: FW: Crazy Kevin O'Neal article 
Message-ID: <3737f.741bb134.3ab90e55@aol.com>

_http://www.thedaily.com/page/2011/03/16/031711-sports-wolken-3/_ 
(http://www.thedaily.com/page/2011/03/16/031711-sports-wolken-3/) 
From MHRJGScott at aol.com  Mon Mar 21 15:29:30 2011
From: MHRJGScott at aol.com (MHRJGScott@aol.com)
Date: Mon Mar 21 15:29:41 2011
Subject: [NU Sports] Fwd: FW: Crazy Kevin O'Neal article try this link
Message-ID: <37744.7ebf417c.3ab90f2a@aol.com>

_http://bit.ly/g6FTDP_ (http://bit.ly/g6FTDP) 
From cspnu81 at tds.net  Mon Mar 21 15:40:57 2011
From: cspnu81 at tds.net (Chris Patterson)
Date: Mon Mar 21 15:41:09 2011
Subject: FW: [NU Sports] Is 11 years enough?
Message-ID: <006301cbe808$48fec670$dafc5350$@net>

Alan brings up many good questions and makes some good points. And each time
I hear the question "Is x years enough?" I go back to a post (wish I could
remember who made it and saved it) which I thought was excellent.

Basically, the post discussed how bad, I mean how really, really, really bad
men's NU hoops has been and how it has been slowing improving. And to
simplify that post (without adding any facts), men's hoops has gone from:

Really, really, really bad to
Really, really bad to
Really bad to
Bad to
Not so bad (not making NIT) to
Average (making NIT) - don't about half the bball teams make the NCAA or the
NIT?  to
Good- (winning 19-20 games) to
Good (winning a game in the NIT) to
Good+ (winning at least two games in the NIT) sideways to
Good+ (getting into the NCAA Tourney) to
Good++ (?)
Good+++ (winning in the first round of NCAA tourney) to
Very Good (winning the NIT) to ...

You get the idea. Eleven years is a long time, but it has been a very, very
long hill to climb. Thank goodness I'm young enough that I can tolerate the
tiny steps. I do see the program working towards the summit and getting into
the tourney frequently and making some runs in it. Caveat: there may be some
false summits along the way. But as long as the 3-4 year review of the
program is positive, then I think the business (non-emotional) decision is
to stay with and support Carmody, albeit the emotional patience we have
needed to maintain solid support for BC this last decade has been quite
challenging at times.

As whether it takes a certain type of coach to make the NCAA tourney or not,
I doubt it. It is just that the tourney is a highly visible milestone for
the fans. 

At risk of starting yet another thread, I think basketball requires a lot
more individual player talent to win (unlike football where a Gary Barnett
can make a bigger difference).

Go CATS!
Chris

-----Original Message-----
From: nwu-sports-bounces@tssi.com [mailto:nwu-sports-bounces@tssi.com] On
Behalf Of Alan Abrahamson
Sent: Saturday, March 19, 2011 3:50 PM
To: Eric West
Cc: nwu-sports@tssi.com
Subject: Re: [NU Sports] Cats beat BC

Actually, this team isn't awful in the slightest.

The problems this year are self-evident:

1. Coble isn't playing.

2. Shurna was hurt for a good part of the Big Ten season.

3. We have no reliable inside game.

4. Our margin for error is so thin that we couldn't overcome problems 1, 2
and 3 consistently.

Going forward, it would again seem self-evident that getting to 20 wins, and
the historic second-round first-ever NIT victory, has saved Carmody's job.
Whether this is a good thing is debatable. The home-game debacle this season
against Wisconsin was, for me, just godawful brutal.

Referring to my list above, there's nothing Carmody could do about problem
No. 2. Problems No. 1, 3 and 4 are absolutely on him, and especially after
11 years. Quibble if you will about whether the Coble matter is on Coble or
Carmody; from my vantage point, one of the participants is 21 or 22 years
old and the other is -- not.

Reality check: It's not clear there would have been money around, especially
after whatever it took to keep Fitz -- I refer here to the run that Michigan
made at Fitz amid the departure of RichRod -- to hire anybody worth hiring
if Carmody were to exit stage right. But that is a separate issue.

The crux of the coaching matter is/was: is Carmody the guy to take
Northwestern to the NCAA tournament?

Or, depending on how you want to phrase the question: Is 11 years enough
time to make your case?

Alternatively, and I acknowledge that this phrasing totally changes the
dynamic of the question: Isn't 11 years enough time?

BTW, and let me stress: I don't have any inside information of any sort. I'm
1800 miles away from Evanston here in SoCal. I only know what I read in the
newspapers. But two plus two is often, you know, four.

Next year, Shurna, assuming he stays healthy, is a first-team All-American
candidate. If we have a legitimate point guard, and can find any sort of
inside presence, we should be NCAA-tourney good. I do not belong to the "oh,
gosh, we are going to have a freshman running the offense and that sucks"
school. Last I looked, a lot of really, really good freshman were playing
college basketball, and going right from their freshman years to the NBA.

I second the motion that my friend Darren Rovell made in his remarks to the
New York Times a couple days ago, in the piece about us not making the NCAA
tournament for the 73rd straight year. "This has to stop," Darren said, and
I concur. This has to stop. It's not funny. Northwestern stands for
excellence in everything. We must make the tournament, and next year. This
has to stop.

As for this NIT -- again, this Boston College game was the best this team
has played all year. The stats say 27 assists on 34 field goals. If the Cats
are going to peak -- might as well peak in March, right? A healthy John
Shurna makes a huge, huge difference.

All comments more than welcome. After these many years together on the list,
I would hope that some/most/all of you would have an opinion about the state
of the men's basketball team as we dash into unchartered territory, the
third round of the NIT.

Go Wildcats -- expecting victory -- Alan









On Sat, Mar 19, 2011 at 11:37 AM, Eric West <e-west@northwestern.edu> wrote:

> On 3/19/2011 12:46 PM, Dennis W. Brandt wrote:
>
>> Without question the best game they played all season.  What wonders can
>> occur when you out-rebound the opposition.
>>
>
> Actually, I was going to say what wonders can occur when you aren't
playing
> a tourney-bound Big Ten (or Big East) team. Certainly our best road
> performance, though I think Illinois and Michigan are both better than BC.
>
> While I have been disappointed by this season's unmet expectations, I've
> never thought this was an awful team. They've been fairly consistent all
> year results-wise, with neither a horrible loss nor a great win. For
better
> or worse, the NIT is where they belong, and it's good to see them
competing
> well in it. Another tough road test looms, though hopefully they can
benefit
> from a longer rest period.
>
> Eric West
> e-west@northwestern.edu
>
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From thiegs at umn.edu  Mon Mar 21 15:52:00 2011
From: thiegs at umn.edu (Joe Thiegs)
Date: Mon Mar 21 15:52:55 2011
Subject: [NU Sports] Big Ten Hockey
Message-ID: <AANLkTi=wow9pdz7KETurktpFCzozc7_-rxcpet98_XOO@mail.gmail.com>

Men's Ice Hockey to Be Recommended as Official Big Ten Sport Beginning with
2013-14 Academic Year
http://www.bigten.org/genrel/032111aab.html

-Joe
From jintsjason at me.com  Mon Mar 21 16:27:15 2011
From: jintsjason at me.com (Jason Singer)
Date: Mon Mar 21 16:27:58 2011
Subject: [NU Sports] Big Ten Hockey
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTi=wow9pdz7KETurktpFCzozc7_-rxcpet98_XOO@mail.gmail.com>
References: <AANLkTi=wow9pdz7KETurktpFCzozc7_-rxcpet98_XOO@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <46721E24-B5B6-44E2-80DF-E4A9C7F013AF@me.com>

Awesome. I'm a huge Beanpot and Frozen Four tourney fan (my brother is a BC alum). I hope we actively attempt to make it a varsity sport. I actually used to mascot (verb) NU hockey games in 1985. Fun!

But, while I suppose it makes obvious sense thinking about it, I was surprised to see that Women's Lacrosse is not a Big Ten (12) sport. Maybe that'll change with our success.

Jason Singer
jintsjason@me.com
jason@jasonsinger.com

On Mar 21, 2011, at 4:52 PM, Joe Thiegs <thiegs@umn.edu> wrote:

> Men's Ice Hockey to Be Recommended as Official Big Ten Sport Beginning with
> 2013-14 Academic Year
> http://www.bigten.org/genrel/032111aab.html
> 
> -Joe
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From MHRJGScott at aol.com  Mon Mar 21 17:13:21 2011
From: MHRJGScott at aol.com (MHRJGScott@aol.com)
Date: Mon Mar 21 17:13:41 2011
Subject: [NU Sports] Big Ten Hockey
Message-ID: <3db9f.2e7488b9.3ab92781@aol.com>

About time, 40 years too late for me. Speaking of beanpot, I had offers to  
go to BU and Colorado to play hockey but since there was one US player on  
the original six in 1966 I thought it not a good  move
From hakirsch at aol.com  Mon Mar 21 17:25:16 2011
From: hakirsch at aol.com (hakirsch@aol.com)
Date: Mon Mar 21 17:25:28 2011
Subject: [NU Sports] Big Ten Hockey
Message-ID: <1328412945-1300746319-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-2035762222-@bda2184.bisx.prod.on.blackberry>

I don't remember who the one was but I think his first name was Tom and he played for the Bruins

Harry
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Subject: Re: [NU Sports] Big Ten Hockey
Sent: Mar 21, 2011 3:13 PM

About time, 40 years too late for me. Speaking of beanpot, I had offers to  
go to BU and Colorado to play hockey but since there was one US player on  
the original six in 1966 I thought it not a good  move
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From MHRJGScott at aol.com  Mon Mar 21 18:05:56 2011
From: MHRJGScott at aol.com (MHRJGScott@aol.com)
Date: Mon Mar 21 18:06:30 2011
Subject: [NU Sports] Big Ten Hockey
Message-ID: <408df.7117df5d.3ab933d4@aol.com>

yep "the bomber"
From scottzel at gmail.com  Mon Mar 21 18:39:22 2011
From: scottzel at gmail.com (Scott Zeller, M.D.)
Date: Mon Mar 21 18:39:41 2011
Subject: [NU Sports] Big Ten Hockey
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTi=wow9pdz7KETurktpFCzozc7_-rxcpet98_XOO@mail.gmail.com>
References: <AANLkTi=wow9pdz7KETurktpFCzozc7_-rxcpet98_XOO@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <AANLkTik6FOMk4DekmyK1mRw-EfhW1LnmRUL2zH9NoLdi@mail.gmail.com>

How about NU gets a team and drops baseball?

On Mon, Mar 21, 2011 at 1:52 PM, Joe Thiegs <thiegs@umn.edu> wrote:

> Men's Ice Hockey to Be Recommended as Official Big Ten Sport Beginning with
> 2013-14 Academic Year
> http://www.bigten.org/genrel/032111aab.html
>
> -Joe
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From sportsbiz at gmail.com  Mon Mar 21 19:30:43 2011
From: sportsbiz at gmail.com (Sportsbiz)
Date: Mon Mar 21 19:31:20 2011
Subject: [NU Sports] Big Ten Hockey
In-Reply-To: <46721E24-B5B6-44E2-80DF-E4A9C7F013AF@me.com>
References: <AANLkTi=wow9pdz7KETurktpFCzozc7_-rxcpet98_XOO@mail.gmail.com>
	<46721E24-B5B6-44E2-80DF-E4A9C7F013AF@me.com>
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I don't think, although I'm not sure, that there are six schools playing
women's lacrosse and six is the minimum number necessary for a conference
sport.  I don't see NU starting hockey anytime soon. Even if you ignore the
expense factor (we don't have a rink) we would have potential Title IX
issues based on the number of men needed for a hockey team and the lack of
an easy women's counterpart to start up.
Mark

On Mon, Mar 21, 2011 at 5:27 PM, Jason Singer <jintsjason@me.com> wrote:

> Awesome. I'm a huge Beanpot and Frozen Four tourney fan (my brother is a BC
> alum). I hope we actively attempt to make it a varsity sport. I actually
> used to mascot (verb) NU hockey games in 1985. Fun!
>
> But, while I suppose it makes obvious sense thinking about it, I was
> surprised to see that Women's Lacrosse is not a Big Ten (12) sport. Maybe
> that'll change with our success.
>
> Jason Singer
> jintsjason@me.com
> jason@jasonsinger.com
>
> On Mar 21, 2011, at 4:52 PM, Joe Thiegs <thiegs@umn.edu> wrote:
>
> > Men's Ice Hockey to Be Recommended as Official Big Ten Sport Beginning
> with
> > 2013-14 Academic Year
> > http://www.bigten.org/genrel/032111aab.html
> >
> > -Joe
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From airsnod at aol.com  Mon Mar 21 21:32:59 2011
From: airsnod at aol.com (=?utf-8?B?YWlyc25vZEBhb2wuY29t?=)
Date: Mon Mar 21 21:33:16 2011
Subject: =?utf-8?B?UmU6IFtOVSBTcG9ydHNdIEJpZyBUZW4gSG9ja2V5?=
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I would think it just as easy (hard) to start in parallel to a men's team.


----- Reply message -----
From: "Sportsbiz" <sportsbiz@gmail.com>
Date: Mon, Mar 21, 2011 7:30 pm
Subject: [NU Sports] Big Ten Hockey
To: "Jason Singer" <jintsjason@me.com>
Cc: "NU Sports List" <nwu-sports@romaine.tssi.com>


I don't think, although I'm not sure, that there are six schools playing
women's lacrosse and six is the minimum number necessary for a conference
sport.  I don't see NU starting hockey anytime soon. Even if you ignore the
expense factor (we don't have a rink) we would have potential Title IX
issues based on the number of men needed for a hockey team and the lack of
an easy women's counterpart to start up.
Mark

On Mon, Mar 21, 2011 at 5:27 PM, Jason Singer <jintsjason@me.com> wrote:

> Awesome. I'm a huge Beanpot and Frozen Four tourney fan (my brother is a BC
> alum). I hope we actively attempt to make it a varsity sport. I actually
> used to mascot (verb) NU hockey games in 1985. Fun!
>
> But, while I suppose it makes obvious sense thinking about it, I was
> surprised to see that Women's Lacrosse is not a Big Ten (12) sport. Maybe
> that'll change with our success.
>
> Jason Singer
> jintsjason@me.com
> jason@jasonsinger.com
>
> On Mar 21, 2011, at 4:52 PM, Joe Thiegs <thiegs@umn.edu> wrote:
>
> > Men's Ice Hockey to Be Recommended as Official Big Ten Sport Beginning
> with
> > 2013-14 Academic Year
> > http://www.bigten.org/genrel/032111aab.html
> >
> > -Joe
> > _______________________________________________
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> > nwu-sports@tssi.com
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From rstetson at capps-assoc.com  Mon Mar 21 22:05:43 2011
From: rstetson at capps-assoc.com (Roy S. Lamberton)
Date: Mon Mar 21 22:05:36 2011
Subject: [NU Sports] Big Ten Hockey
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTi=56PAg+j80ZZN-cFZUkJ0dTHifryKZXObBUqVn@mail.gmail.com>
References: <AANLkTi=wow9pdz7KETurktpFCzozc7_-rxcpet98_XOO@mail.gmail.com>	<46721E24-B5B6-44E2-80DF-E4A9C7F013AF@me.com>
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They'd have to start a Women's program too.

Dropping Baseball is not an option,IMHO

rsl 

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Sent: Monday, March 21, 2011 8:31 PM
To: Jason Singer
Cc: NU Sports List
Subject: Re: [NU Sports] Big Ten Hockey

I don't think, although I'm not sure, that there are six schools playing
women's lacrosse and six is the minimum number necessary for a conference
sport.  I don't see NU starting hockey anytime soon. Even if you ignore the
expense factor (we don't have a rink) we would have potential Title IX
issues based on the number of men needed for a hockey team and the lack of
an easy women's counterpart to start up.
Mark

On Mon, Mar 21, 2011 at 5:27 PM, Jason Singer <jintsjason@me.com> wrote:

> Awesome. I'm a huge Beanpot and Frozen Four tourney fan (my brother is a BC
> alum). I hope we actively attempt to make it a varsity sport. I actually
> used to mascot (verb) NU hockey games in 1985. Fun!
>
> But, while I suppose it makes obvious sense thinking about it, I was
> surprised to see that Women's Lacrosse is not a Big Ten (12) sport. Maybe
> that'll change with our success.
>
> Jason Singer
> jintsjason@me.com
> jason@jasonsinger.com
>
> On Mar 21, 2011, at 4:52 PM, Joe Thiegs <thiegs@umn.edu> wrote:
>
> > Men's Ice Hockey to Be Recommended as Official Big Ten Sport Beginning
> with
> > 2013-14 Academic Year
> > http://www.bigten.org/genrel/032111aab.html
> >
> > -Joe
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From sportsbiz at gmail.com  Tue Mar 22 00:54:22 2011
From: sportsbiz at gmail.com (Sportsbiz)
Date: Tue Mar 22 00:54:57 2011
Subject: [NU Sports] Wazzoo
Message-ID: <AANLkTimpTpfAc2s9Hw9+AhNR86XDNKrLFMKoHg80sN=X@mail.gmail.com>

Now we know our next NIT opponent:  Washington State, Wednesday, 11:00pm
Eastern, 10:00pm Cat time, live from the beautiful environs of Pullman
Washington.  The Cougs looked good tonight in taking out an overmatched
Oklahoma State team, which hung around but never seemed to really pose much
of a threat, falling behind by 10 or more in the first half and never
getting any closer.  WSU has a super guard in Klay Thompson, the leading
scorer in the Pac-10 who can score from anywhere and I do mean anywhere.
 This kid has no conscience.  At one point tonight, he brought the ball up
court and calmly drained a shot from about 35 feet without so much as
looking at another WSU player or giving a thought to anything but shooting.


They play a fairly tough 2-3 match-up zone that seemed to keep Okie State
off their game most of the night.  It should give Juice and Shurna a number
of good looks behind the arc.  Let's just hope they're hitting.  We can win
this game but it will take a good effort with maximum concentration and
tough defense especially on Klay.
Mark

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From rstetson at capps-assoc.com  Tue Mar 22 07:09:25 2011
From: rstetson at capps-assoc.com (Roy S. Lamberton)
Date: Tue Mar 22 07:09:19 2011
Subject: [NU Sports] Wazzoo
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTimpTpfAc2s9Hw9+AhNR86XDNKrLFMKoHg80sN=X@mail.gmail.com>
References: <AANLkTimpTpfAc2s9Hw9+AhNR86XDNKrLFMKoHg80sN=X@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <000301cbe889$fcc65110$f652f330$@com>

My concern would be the time of the game - I'm sure the guys are used to staying up late
for things, but a 10 PM (their time) start will sure upset the old body clock and maybe
lead to errors and sloppy shooting.

Earlier in my life I worked rotating shifts and as a result I have a time around midnight
when I am at a peak in doing tricky things. I can't fight it, it's just my body clock
showing the effects of 4 years of Navy Secgru watch standing. There are times during the
day when I have to force myself to do stuff, but my body is saying - go sit on the chair
and take a nap. 

We'll see, but I wonder if OSU's poor performance wasn't due to a later start (10 PM their
time) than they were used to playing.

rsl

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  Senior League Softball World Series
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Northwestern University - Speech 1974 - 
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Sportsbiz
Sent: Tuesday, March 22, 2011 1:54 AM
To: nwu-sports@tssi.com
Subject: [NU Sports] Wazzoo

Now we know our next NIT opponent:  Washington State, Wednesday, 11:00pm
Eastern, 10:00pm Cat time, live from the beautiful environs of Pullman
Washington.  The Cougs looked good tonight in taking out an overmatched
Oklahoma State team, which hung around but never seemed to really pose much
of a threat, falling behind by 10 or more in the first half and never
getting any closer.  WSU has a super guard in Klay Thompson, the leading
scorer in the Pac-10 who can score from anywhere and I do mean anywhere.
 This kid has no conscience.  At one point tonight, he brought the ball up
court and calmly drained a shot from about 35 feet without so much as
looking at another WSU player or giving a thought to anything but shooting.


They play a fairly tough 2-3 match-up zone that seemed to keep Okie State
off their game most of the night.  It should give Juice and Shurna a number
of good looks behind the arc.  Let's just hope they're hitting.  We can win
this game but it will take a good effort with maximum concentration and
tough defense especially on Klay.
Mark

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From Willie.Weinbaum at espn.com  Tue Mar 22 08:41:50 2011
From: Willie.Weinbaum at espn.com (Weinbaum, Willie)
Date: Tue Mar 22 08:43:11 2011
Subject: [NU Sports] Wazzoo
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTimpTpfAc2s9Hw9+AhNR86XDNKrLFMKoHg80sN=X@mail.gmail.com>
References: <AANLkTimpTpfAc2s9Hw9+AhNR86XDNKrLFMKoHg80sN=X@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <1F89BB2CE7A5B94D969618E8CC769CC369806A32@XCHGBRS4.corp.espn.pvt>

Thanks for the great report - - the game's to air on ESPN2.  Go Cats!

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Sent: Tuesday, March 22, 2011 1:54 AM
To: nwu-sports@tssi.com
Subject: [NU Sports] Wazzoo

Now we know our next NIT opponent:  Washington State, Wednesday, 11:00pm
Eastern, 10:00pm Cat time, live from the beautiful environs of Pullman
Washington.  The Cougs looked good tonight in taking out an overmatched
Oklahoma State team, which hung around but never seemed to really pose much
of a threat, falling behind by 10 or more in the first half and never
getting any closer.  WSU has a super guard in Klay Thompson, the leading
scorer in the Pac-10 who can score from anywhere and I do mean anywhere.
 This kid has no conscience.  At one point tonight, he brought the ball up
court and calmly drained a shot from about 35 feet without so much as
looking at another WSU player or giving a thought to anything but shooting.


They play a fairly tough 2-3 match-up zone that seemed to keep Okie State
off their game most of the night.  It should give Juice and Shurna a number
of good looks behind the arc.  Let's just hope they're hitting.  We can win
this game but it will take a good effort with maximum concentration and
tough defense especially on Klay.
Mark

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From AJWDBW at aol.com  Tue Mar 22 08:58:44 2011
From: AJWDBW at aol.com (AJWDBW@aol.com)
Date: Tue Mar 22 08:59:02 2011
Subject: [NU Sports] Wazzoo
Message-ID: <43c6b.4c2eecc.3aba0514@aol.com>

Roy: There will come a time in the not too distant future -- and I speak  
from experience -- when you will listen to what your body is saying and  
start looking for the nearest Recliner. Believe me, it will do wonders for  you.
Don Williams, MD*
 
* The MD signifies I used to live in Maryland
 
 
In a message dated 3/22/2011 7:09:34 A.M. Central Daylight Time,  
rstetson@capps-assoc.com writes:

There  are times during the
day when I have to force myself to do stuff, but my  body is saying - go 
sit on the chair
and take a nap.  


From hakirsch at aol.com  Tue Mar 22 09:13:37 2011
From: hakirsch at aol.com (hakirsch@aol.com)
Date: Tue Mar 22 09:13:47 2011
Subject: [NU Sports] Wazzoo
Message-ID: <1180400006-1300803223-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-1954280142-@bda2184.bisx.prod.on.blackberry>

These guys are young and will have a few days of rest and time zone issues within the US  shouldn't affect them. The adrenaline should keep their bodies going as well, though  I have a little concern about their travel schedule to Boston and then to Pulliam( presumably via Evanston )

Harry
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To: sportsbiz@gmail.com
To: nwu-sports@tssi.com
Subject: Re: [NU Sports] Wazzoo
Sent: Mar 22, 2011 6:58 AM

Roy: There will come a time in the not too distant future -- and I speak  
from experience -- when you will listen to what your body is saying and  
start looking for the nearest Recliner. Believe me, it will do wonders for  you.
Don Williams, MD*
 
* The MD signifies I used to live in Maryland
 
 
In a message dated 3/22/2011 7:09:34 A.M. Central Daylight Time,  
rstetson@capps-assoc.com writes:

There  are times during the
day when I have to force myself to do stuff, but my  body is saying - go 
sit on the chair
and take a nap.  


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From rstetson at capps-assoc.com  Tue Mar 22 11:28:24 2011
From: rstetson at capps-assoc.com (Roy S. Lamberton)
Date: Tue Mar 22 11:28:38 2011
Subject: [NU Sports] Wazzoo
In-Reply-To: <43c6b.4c2eecc.3aba0514@aol.com>
References: <43c6b.4c2eecc.3aba0514@aol.com>
Message-ID: <000f01cbe8ae$2c875010$8595f030$@com>

Well, I got the word today that I have shingles, not a return of my rediculopathy
(something diabetics get when their thoracic disks get rough.

 

Anyway, I have a recliner that can fit 3 people and I try not to sit down in it during the
day because I'll be out for several hours.

 

I will have to stay up for this game - even though I'll be coming in after a 2 hour drive
from Germantown.

 

Go Cats!

 

rsl 

 

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Director Media Relations - Little League 

  Senior League Softball World Series

CTRCS USN/USNR Retired

Northwestern University - Speech 1974 - 

Chi Phi: Pi 1974, KD 1968

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From: AJWDBW@aol.com [mailto:AJWDBW@aol.com] 
Sent: Tuesday, March 22, 2011 9:59 AM
To: rstetson@capps-assoc.com; sportsbiz@gmail.com; nwu-sports@tssi.com
Subject: Re: [NU Sports] Wazzoo

 

Roy: There will come a time in the not too distant future -- and I speak from experience
-- when you will listen to what your body is saying and start looking for the nearest
Recliner. Believe me, it will do wonders for you.

Don Williams, MD*

 

* The MD signifies I used to live in Maryland

 

In a message dated 3/22/2011 7:09:34 A.M. Central Daylight Time, rstetson@capps-assoc.com
writes:

There are times during the
day when I have to force myself to do stuff, but my body is saying - go sit on the chair
and take a nap. 

From rstetson at capps-assoc.com  Tue Mar 22 11:30:28 2011
From: rstetson at capps-assoc.com (Roy S. Lamberton)
Date: Tue Mar 22 11:30:36 2011
Subject: [NU Sports] Wazzoo
In-Reply-To: <1180400006-1300803223-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-1954280142-@bda2184.bisx.prod.on.blackberry>
References: <1180400006-1300803223-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-1954280142-@bda2184.bisx.prod.on.blackberry>
Message-ID: <001401cbe8ae$78970db0$69c52910$@com>

I just worry about the comment in the story where Wazoo beat Ok State. The report was that
the OK State boys were listless and didn't seem up for the game, which on the surface,
they should have won.

NU has to be on their game to win this, and we certainly want that, don't we.

Go Court Cats!

rsl 

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  Senior League Softball World Series
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Northwestern University - Speech 1974 - 
Chi Phi: Pi 1974, KD 1968
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-----Original Message-----
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Sent: Tuesday, March 22, 2011 10:14 AM
To: AJWDBW@aol.com; nwu-sports-bounces@tssi.com; rstetson@capps-assoc.com;
sportsbiz@gmail.com; nwu-sports@tssi.com
Subject: Re: [NU Sports] Wazzoo

These guys are young and will have a few days of rest and time zone issues within the US
shouldn't affect them. The adrenaline should keep their bodies going as well, though  I
have a little concern about their travel schedule to Boston and then to Pulliam(
presumably via Evanston )

Harry
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Sent: Mar 22, 2011 6:58 AM

Roy: There will come a time in the not too distant future -- and I speak  
from experience -- when you will listen to what your body is saying and  
start looking for the nearest Recliner. Believe me, it will do wonders for  you.
Don Williams, MD*
 
* The MD signifies I used to live in Maryland
 
 
In a message dated 3/22/2011 7:09:34 A.M. Central Daylight Time,  
rstetson@capps-assoc.com writes:

There  are times during the
day when I have to force myself to do stuff, but my  body is saying - go 
sit on the chair
and take a nap.  


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From nolan at romaine.tssi.com  Tue Mar 22 15:50:00 2011
From: nolan at romaine.tssi.com (Mike Nolan)
Date: Tue Mar 22 15:50:02 2011
Subject: [NU Sports] Wazzoo
In-Reply-To: <43c6b.4c2eecc.3aba0514@aol.com> from "AJWDBW@aol.com" at Mar 22,
	2011 09:58:44 AM
Message-ID: <201103222050.p2MKo0cg025925@romaine.tssi.com>

> Roy: There will come a time in the not too distant future -- and I speak  
> from experience -- when you will listen to what your body is saying and  
> start looking for the nearest Recliner. Believe me, it will do wonders for  you.
> Don Williams, MD*

After some 40 years in computers, I'm often at my best late in the
evening, too, because for many years that was the only time I could
get full access to the computer.

The advantage of being a self-employed consultant is that I set my
own hours and can usually take a break if I'm tired.  The disadvantage 
is that I'm only 17 steps away from my office, so it's too easy to
go to work for a few hours.

(I wasn't sleeping well this morning and got up at 3:30 to write a few 
memos to a client and catch up on some email, then went back to bed and 
slept until about 9:30.)

I'm also a believer in the 'power nap', and so is my cat, who seldom passes
up a chance to curl up on my lap in the recliner in my office.
--
Mike Nolan


From Willie.Weinbaum at espn.com  Tue Mar 22 18:33:27 2011
From: Willie.Weinbaum at espn.com (Weinbaum, Willie)
Date: Tue Mar 22 18:35:01 2011
Subject: [NU Sports] Wash State
Message-ID: <1F89BB2CE7A5B94D969618E8CC769CC36874B4F3@XCHGBRS4.corp.espn.pvt>

Ken Bone Statement on DeAngelo Casto?PULLMAN, Wash. ? Washington State University Head Basketball Coach Ken Bone announced Tuesday? that DeAngelo Casto has been suspended indefinitely for a violation of team rules and will miss tomorrow night?s National Invitational Tournament quarterfinal game.??I am disappointed in DeAngelo as he let himself and his teammates down,? said Bone. ?Neither myself nor the team will have further comment as our sole focus is the game against Northwestern and the opportunity to reach the NIT semifinals in New York.??WSU Director of Athletics Bill Moos added, ?It is important that our student-athletes realize that they are held to a high standard and that a lack of good judgment can be costly, especially in the post season when so much is at stake.?? ??-- wsucougars.com --

>From Blackberry - please excuse typos

W. Weinbaum
Producer
212-916-9864 (24-hour voicemail)
willie.weinbaum@espn.com

From tbng at comcast.net  Tue Mar 22 19:14:59 2011
From: tbng at comcast.net (Dennis W. Brandt)
Date: Tue Mar 22 19:15:12 2011
Subject: [NU Sports] Cats vs. WSU
References: <1F89BB2CE7A5B94D969618E8CC769CC36874B4F3@XCHGBRS4.corp.espn.pvt>
Message-ID: <2FE994B33FF74AEB8D5F227120AF8F3C@dennismachine>

Someone here said that ESPN2 was carrying the game, but the College of 
Charleston game televised in Pennsylvania, and it's not listed on the 
alternate ESPN2.  On the standard def channel perhaps? 

From tkmaycock at yahoo.com  Tue Mar 22 19:17:38 2011
From: tkmaycock at yahoo.com (Tom Maycock)
Date: Tue Mar 22 19:17:41 2011
Subject: [NU Sports] Wash State
In-Reply-To: <1F89BB2CE7A5B94D969618E8CC769CC36874B4F3@XCHGBRS4.corp.espn.pvt>
References: <1F89BB2CE7A5B94D969618E8CC769CC36874B4F3@XCHGBRS4.corp.espn.pvt>
Message-ID: <51409.29240.qm@web33102.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

Wow, sounds like several of their players have been busy off the court. More on 
Casto and the other issues:

http://www.spokesman.com/stories/2011/mar/22/casto-suspended-nit-quarterfinal/

I hope both the program and those players sort things out, but in the short 
term, having their strong-rebounding power forward out of the game is probably 
to NU's advantage.

Tom

From martinitis at aol.com  Tue Mar 22 21:35:43 2011
From: martinitis at aol.com (Louis Martinaitis)
Date: Tue Mar 22 21:39:08 2011
Subject: [NU Sports] Cats vs. WSU
In-Reply-To: <2FE994B33FF74AEB8D5F227120AF8F3C@dennismachine>
References: <1F89BB2CE7A5B94D969618E8CC769CC36874B4F3@XCHGBRS4.corp.espn.pvt>
	<2FE994B33FF74AEB8D5F227120AF8F3C@dennismachine>
Message-ID: <ABC6C9F8-70CE-4D02-8CCF-1F00498A0DA6@aol.com>

I'm seeing the same thing in Vegas.  Witchita State/Charleston on ESPN2..and can't find NU game anywhere else?! STD def also shows Charleston.

Sent from my iPad

On Mar 22, 2011, at 5:14 PM, "Dennis W. Brandt" <tbng@comcast.net> wrote:

> Someone here said that ESPN2 was carrying the game, but the College of Charleston game televised in Pennsylvania, and it's not listed on the alternate ESPN2.  On the standard def channel perhaps? 
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From cdueltgen at alumni.northwestern.edu  Tue Mar 22 21:44:45 2011
From: cdueltgen at alumni.northwestern.edu (Cynthia Dueltgen)
Date: Tue Mar 22 21:44:48 2011
Subject: [NU Sports] Cats vs. WSU
In-Reply-To: <ABC6C9F8-70CE-4D02-8CCF-1F00498A0DA6@aol.com>
References: <1F89BB2CE7A5B94D969618E8CC769CC36874B4F3@XCHGBRS4.corp.espn.pvt>
	<2FE994B33FF74AEB8D5F227120AF8F3C@dennismachine>
	<ABC6C9F8-70CE-4D02-8CCF-1F00498A0DA6@aol.com>
Message-ID: <AANLkTikJFhJL08Ej2Y2NMiiYRnFz0FrOw-+hphWTYxsb@mail.gmail.com>

I'm showing the Witchita State/Coll. of Charleston game at 4:00
Pacific and the NU game at 8:00 Pacific with the Miami/Alabama game in
between, all on ESPN2 (DirecTV if it matters). Check later in your
schedule, it's an 11:00 Eastern tip off. :)

-C

On Tue, Mar 22, 2011 at 7:35 PM, Louis Martinaitis <martinitis@aol.com> wrote:
> I'm seeing the same thing in Vegas. ?Witchita State/Charleston on ESPN2..and can't find NU game anywhere else?! STD def also shows Charleston.
>
> Sent from my iPad
>
> On Mar 22, 2011, at 5:14 PM, "Dennis W. Brandt" <tbng@comcast.net> wrote:
>
>> Someone here said that ESPN2 was carrying the game, but the College of Charleston game televised in Pennsylvania, and it's not listed on the alternate ESPN2. ?On the standard def channel perhaps?
>> _______________________________________________
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>> nwu-sports@tssi.com
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>
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>
>

From bevormary at gmail.com  Tue Mar 22 21:50:34 2011
From: bevormary at gmail.com (Rosemary Morris)
Date: Tue Mar 22 21:50:50 2011
Subject: [NU Sports] Cats vs. WSU
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTikJFhJL08Ej2Y2NMiiYRnFz0FrOw-+hphWTYxsb@mail.gmail.com>
References: <1F89BB2CE7A5B94D969618E8CC769CC36874B4F3@XCHGBRS4.corp.espn.pvt>
	<2FE994B33FF74AEB8D5F227120AF8F3C@dennismachine>
	<ABC6C9F8-70CE-4D02-8CCF-1F00498A0DA6@aol.com>
	<AANLkTikJFhJL08Ej2Y2NMiiYRnFz0FrOw-+hphWTYxsb@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <AANLkTikOazrO467gHuo0QrOjVSEb=__baj817X-8419M@mail.gmail.com>

The game is tomorrow (Wednesday) night on ESPN-3; at least that's what
Time-Warner Cable in Austin has on their list.

On Tue, Mar 22, 2011 at 9:44 PM, Cynthia Dueltgen
<cdueltgen@alumni.northwestern.edu> wrote:
> I'm showing the Witchita State/Coll. of Charleston game at 4:00
> Pacific and the NU game at 8:00 Pacific with the Miami/Alabama game in
> between, all on ESPN2 (DirecTV if it matters). Check later in your
> schedule, it's an 11:00 Eastern tip off. :)
>
> -C
>
> On Tue, Mar 22, 2011 at 7:35 PM, Louis Martinaitis <martinitis@aol.com> wrote:
>> I'm seeing the same thing in Vegas. ?Witchita State/Charleston on ESPN2..and can't find NU game anywhere else?! STD def also shows Charleston.
>>
>> Sent from my iPad
>>
>> On Mar 22, 2011, at 5:14 PM, "Dennis W. Brandt" <tbng@comcast.net> wrote:
>>
>>> Someone here said that ESPN2 was carrying the game, but the College of Charleston game televised in Pennsylvania, and it's not listed on the alternate ESPN2. ?On the standard def channel perhaps?
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> nwu-sports site list
>>> nwu-sports@tssi.com
>>> http://romaine.tssi.com/mailman/listinfo/nwu-sports
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> nwu-sports site list
>> nwu-sports@tssi.com
>> http://romaine.tssi.com/mailman/listinfo/nwu-sports
>>
>>
>
> _______________________________________________
> nwu-sports site list
> nwu-sports@tssi.com
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>

From rstetson at capps-assoc.com  Tue Mar 22 22:02:22 2011
From: rstetson at capps-assoc.com (Roy S. Lamberton)
Date: Tue Mar 22 22:02:25 2011
Subject: [NU Sports] Cats vs. WSU
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTikJFhJL08Ej2Y2NMiiYRnFz0FrOw-+hphWTYxsb@mail.gmail.com>
References: <1F89BB2CE7A5B94D969618E8CC769CC36874B4F3@XCHGBRS4.corp.espn.pvt>	<2FE994B33FF74AEB8D5F227120AF8F3C@dennismachine>	<ABC6C9F8-70CE-4D02-8CCF-1F00498A0DA6@aol.com>
	<AANLkTikJFhJL08Ej2Y2NMiiYRnFz0FrOw-+hphWTYxsb@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <000001cbe906$bb315880$31940980$@com>

ESPN web site is showing the games listed below - on both ESPN2 and ESPN3.

I haven't seen a local operator cover a different game on the ESPN2 channel in a long
while.


And what is the Mary Jane issue with the Wazoo team? Three guys caught with a stash this
year?

rsl

++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
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-------------------- Also ----------------------
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Director Media Relations - Little League 
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-----Original Message-----
From: nwu-sports-bounces@tssi.com [mailto:nwu-sports-bounces@tssi.com] On Behalf Of
Cynthia Dueltgen
Sent: Tuesday, March 22, 2011 10:45 PM
To: Louis Martinaitis
Cc: Dennis W. Brandt; <nwu-sports@tssi.com>
Subject: Re: [NU Sports] Cats vs. WSU

I'm showing the Witchita State/Coll. of Charleston game at 4:00
Pacific and the NU game at 8:00 Pacific with the Miami/Alabama game in
between, all on ESPN2 (DirecTV if it matters). Check later in your
schedule, it's an 11:00 Eastern tip off. :)

-C

On Tue, Mar 22, 2011 at 7:35 PM, Louis Martinaitis <martinitis@aol.com> wrote:
> I'm seeing the same thing in Vegas. ?Witchita State/Charleston on ESPN2..and can't find
NU game anywhere else?! STD def also shows Charleston.
>
> Sent from my iPad
>
> On Mar 22, 2011, at 5:14 PM, "Dennis W. Brandt" <tbng@comcast.net> wrote:
>
>> Someone here said that ESPN2 was carrying the game, but the College of Charleston game
televised in Pennsylvania, and it's not listed on the alternate ESPN2. ?On the standard
def channel perhaps?
>> _______________________________________________
>> nwu-sports site list
>> nwu-sports@tssi.com
>> http://romaine.tssi.com/mailman/listinfo/nwu-sports
>
> _______________________________________________
> nwu-sports site list
> nwu-sports@tssi.com
> http://romaine.tssi.com/mailman/listinfo/nwu-sports
>
>

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From martinitis at aol.com  Tue Mar 22 22:06:54 2011
From: martinitis at aol.com (Louis Martinaitis)
Date: Tue Mar 22 22:07:21 2011
Subject: [NU Sports] Cats vs. WSU
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTikJFhJL08Ej2Y2NMiiYRnFz0FrOw-+hphWTYxsb@mail.gmail.com>
References: <1F89BB2CE7A5B94D969618E8CC769CC36874B4F3@XCHGBRS4.corp.espn.pvt>
	<2FE994B33FF74AEB8D5F227120AF8F3C@dennismachine>
	<ABC6C9F8-70CE-4D02-8CCF-1F00498A0DA6@aol.com>
	<AANLkTikJFhJL08Ej2Y2NMiiYRnFz0FrOw-+hphWTYxsb@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <EFFD3D66-57C9-4876-AEAB-B4848473696B@aol.com>

Looks like you solved it Cynthia....even better yet, direct has changed the 8pm slot to NU as of now..at least in Vegas market.

Sent from my iPad

On Mar 22, 2011, at 7:44 PM, Cynthia Dueltgen <cdueltgen@alumni.northwestern.edu> wrote:

> I'm showing the Witchita State/Coll. of Charleston game at 4:00
> Pacific and the NU game at 8:00 Pacific with the Miami/Alabama game in
> between, all on ESPN2 (DirecTV if it matters). Check later in your
> schedule, it's an 11:00 Eastern tip off. :)
> 
> -C
> 
> On Tue, Mar 22, 2011 at 7:35 PM, Louis Martinaitis <martinitis@aol.com> wrote:
>> I'm seeing the same thing in Vegas.  Witchita State/Charleston on ESPN2..and can't find NU game anywhere else?! STD def also shows Charleston.
>> 
>> Sent from my iPad
>> 
>> On Mar 22, 2011, at 5:14 PM, "Dennis W. Brandt" <tbng@comcast.net> wrote:
>> 
>>> Someone here said that ESPN2 was carrying the game, but the College of Charleston game televised in Pennsylvania, and it's not listed on the alternate ESPN2.  On the standard def channel perhaps?
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> nwu-sports site list
>>> nwu-sports@tssi.com
>>> http://romaine.tssi.com/mailman/listinfo/nwu-sports
>> 
>> _______________________________________________
>> nwu-sports site list
>> nwu-sports@tssi.com
>> http://romaine.tssi.com/mailman/listinfo/nwu-sports
>> 
>> 

From MHRJGScott at aol.com  Tue Mar 22 22:10:15 2011
From: MHRJGScott at aol.com (MHRJGScott@aol.com)
Date: Tue Mar 22 22:10:23 2011
Subject: [NU Sports] Wazzoo
Message-ID: <38234.1c675166.3ababe97@aol.com>

screw the recliner, or anyone else handy, and get your but to the gym, I  
work out like a madman for an hour EVERY DAY and it is the secret to the  
fountain of youth
From johnl at mac.com  Tue Mar 22 22:32:46 2011
From: johnl at mac.com (Labbe John)
Date: Tue Mar 22 22:32:52 2011
Subject: [NU Sports] Cats vs. WSU
In-Reply-To: <EFFD3D66-57C9-4876-AEAB-B4848473696B@aol.com>
References: <1F89BB2CE7A5B94D969618E8CC769CC36874B4F3@XCHGBRS4.corp.espn.pvt>
	<2FE994B33FF74AEB8D5F227120AF8F3C@dennismachine>
	<ABC6C9F8-70CE-4D02-8CCF-1F00498A0DA6@aol.com>
	<AANLkTikJFhJL08Ej2Y2NMiiYRnFz0FrOw-+hphWTYxsb@mail.gmail.com>
	<EFFD3D66-57C9-4876-AEAB-B4848473696B@aol.com>
Message-ID: <DB52A216-5821-4B0E-A3F7-1BD59F73B59C@mac.com>

It was pretty clear during coverage of the Colorado NIT game tonight  
that all three NIT games tomorrow night will be on ESPN2 back-to-back  
beginning at 7:00 PM EDT and concluding with our game at 11:00 PM  
EDT.  It's also clear from the NIT website:

http://www.ncaa.com/brackets/basketball-men/NIT/2011

Because the schedule wasn't finalized until late last night (they  
didn't announce the time and station for the NU game until the  
conclusion of the WSU/OSU game last night), I think your cable or  
satellite guides may have misinformation or incomplete information.


On Mar 22, 2011, at 10:06 PM, Louis Martinaitis wrote:

> Looks like you solved it Cynthia....even better yet, direct has  
> changed the 8pm slot to NU as of now..at least in Vegas market.
>
> Sent from my iPad
>
> On Mar 22, 2011, at 7:44 PM, Cynthia Dueltgen <cdueltgen@alumni.northwestern.edu 
> > wrote:
>
>> I'm showing the Witchita State/Coll. of Charleston game at 4:00
>> Pacific and the NU game at 8:00 Pacific with the Miami/Alabama game  
>> in
>> between, all on ESPN2 (DirecTV if it matters). Check later in your
>> schedule, it's an 11:00 Eastern tip off. :)
>>
>> -C
>>
>> On Tue, Mar 22, 2011 at 7:35 PM, Louis Martinaitis <martinitis@aol.com 
>> > wrote:
>>> I'm seeing the same thing in Vegas.  Witchita State/Charleston on  
>>> ESPN2..and can't find NU game anywhere else?! STD def also shows  
>>> Charleston.
>>>
>>> Sent from my iPad
>>>
>>> On Mar 22, 2011, at 5:14 PM, "Dennis W. Brandt" <tbng@comcast.net>  
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Someone here said that ESPN2 was carrying the game, but the  
>>>> College of Charleston game televised in Pennsylvania, and it's  
>>>> not listed on the alternate ESPN2.  On the standard def channel  
>>>> perhaps?
>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>> nwu-sports site list
>>>> nwu-sports@tssi.com
>>>> http://romaine.tssi.com/mailman/listinfo/nwu-sports
>>>
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> nwu-sports site list
>>> nwu-sports@tssi.com
>>> http://romaine.tssi.com/mailman/listinfo/nwu-sports
>>>
>>>
>
> _______________________________________________
> nwu-sports site list
> nwu-sports@tssi.com
> http://romaine.tssi.com/mailman/listinfo/nwu-sports

From hakirsch at aol.com  Wed Mar 23 00:37:16 2011
From: hakirsch at aol.com (hakirsch@aol.com)
Date: Wed Mar 23 00:37:42 2011
Subject: [NU Sports] Wazzoo
Message-ID: <1469664595-1300858646-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-1330205311-@bda2184.bisx.prod.on.blackberry>

After meeting you and knowing you graduated in the late 60's early 70's, I believe it

Harry
------Original Message------
From: MHRJGScott@aol.com
Sender: nwu-sports-bounces@tssi.com
To: nolan@romaine.tssi.com
To: AJWDBW@aol.com
Cc: nwu-sports@tssi.com
Subject: Re: [NU Sports] Wazzoo
Sent: Mar 22, 2011 8:10 PM

screw the recliner, or anyone else handy, and get your but to the gym, I  
work out like a madman for an hour EVERY DAY and it is the secret to the  
fountain of youth
_______________________________________________
nwu-sports site list
nwu-sports@tssi.com
http://romaine.tssi.com/mailman/listinfo/nwu-sports


Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry

From MHRJGScott at aol.com  Wed Mar 23 18:21:43 2011
From: MHRJGScott at aol.com (MHRJGScott@aol.com)
Date: Wed Mar 23 18:22:03 2011
Subject: [NU Sports] Wazzoo
Message-ID: <7f07.5387fefa.3abbda87@aol.com>

Thanks Harry, just wish I had your brains. Exercise is my passion, all my  
life with a couple brief backslides, for any listers who think it is out of  
reach, just walk, then walk with weights, and swim, then get to a gym or 
health  club, go with a partner, as the news said today sex kills couch 
potatoes. You  got to want it and put up with the pain, like being a CATS or Cubs 
fan (Saints  for a long time) 'nuff said
 
After meeting you and knowing you graduated in the late 60's early 70's, I  
believe it

Harry
------Original Message------
From:  MHRJGScott@aol.com
Sender: nwu-sports-bounces@tssi.com
To:  nolan@romaine.tssi.com
To: AJWDBW@aol.com
Cc:  nwu-sports@tssi.com
Subject: Re: [NU Sports] Wazzoo
Sent: Mar 22, 2011  8:10 PM

screw the recliner, or anyone else handy, and get your but to the  gym, I  
work out like a madman for an hour EVERY DAY and it is the  secret to the  
fountain of  youth
_______________________________________________
nwu-sports site  list
nwu-sports@tssi.com
http://romaine.tssi.com/mailman/listinfo/nwu-sports


From johnl at mac.com  Wed Mar 23 19:03:59 2011
From: johnl at mac.com (John Labbe)
Date: Wed Mar 23 19:04:14 2011
Subject: [NU Sports] Casto's suspension lifted
In-Reply-To: <51409.29240.qm@web33102.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <9963147a-31e4-4289-99b6-cba8d9db315d@me.com>

The Washington State AD lifted DeAngelo Casto's suspension for tonight's game supposedly based on "new information."

It's strange that the coach didn't reinstate him since the coach had suspended him for breaking team rules.

See

http://sbn.to/hEVpv9

?
On Mar 22, 2011, at 07:17 PM, Tom Maycock <tkmaycock@yahoo.com> wrote:

> Wow, sounds like several of their players have been busy off the court. More on
> Casto and the other issues:
>
> http://www.spokesman.com/stories/2011/mar/22/casto-suspended-nit-quarterfinal/
>
> I hope both the program and those players sort things out, but in the short
> term, having their strong-rebounding power forward out of the game is probably
> to NU's advantage.
>
> Tom
>
> _______________________________________________
> nwu-sports site list
> nwu-sports@tssi.com
> http://romaine.tssi.com/mailman/listinfo/nwu-sports
From martinitis at aol.com  Wed Mar 23 19:16:33 2011
From: martinitis at aol.com (Louis Martinaitis)
Date: Wed Mar 23 19:16:41 2011
Subject: [NU Sports] Casto's suspension lifted
In-Reply-To: <9963147a-31e4-4289-99b6-cba8d9db315d@me.com>
References: <9963147a-31e4-4289-99b6-cba8d9db315d@me.com>
Message-ID: <2DCB93F8-684A-4BBE-9B7F-9E06DC376EBE@aol.com>

Just win Baby.  Division 1 athletics.

Lou

Sent from my iPad

On Mar 23, 2011, at 5:03 PM, John Labbe <johnl@mac.com> wrote:

> The Washington State AD lifted DeAngelo Casto's suspension for tonight's game supposedly based on "new information."
> 
> It's strange that the coach didn't reinstate him since the coach had suspended him for breaking team rules.
> 
> See
> 
> http://sbn.to/hEVpv9
> 
> ?
> On Mar 22, 2011, at 07:17 PM, Tom Maycock <tkmaycock@yahoo.com> wrote:
> 
>> Wow, sounds like several of their players have been busy off the court. More on
>> Casto and the other issues:
>> 
>> http://www.spokesman.com/stories/2011/mar/22/casto-suspended-nit-quarterfinal/
>> 
>> I hope both the program and those players sort things out, but in the short
>> term, having their strong-rebounding power forward out of the game is probably
>> to NU's advantage.
>> 
>> Tom
>> 
>> _______________________________________________
>> nwu-sports site list
>> nwu-sports@tssi.com
>> http://romaine.tssi.com/mailman/listinfo/nwu-sports
> _______________________________________________
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> nwu-sports@tssi.com
> http://romaine.tssi.com/mailman/listinfo/nwu-sports

From eschoeman at sbcglobal.net  Wed Mar 23 19:28:50 2011
From: eschoeman at sbcglobal.net (Evans Schoeman)
Date: Wed Mar 23 19:28:53 2011
Subject: [NU Sports] Casto's suspension lifted
In-Reply-To: <9963147a-31e4-4289-99b6-cba8d9db315d@me.com>
References: <9963147a-31e4-4289-99b6-cba8d9db315d@me.com>
Message-ID: <320114.53684.qm@web83901.mail.sp1.yahoo.com>

Who do they think they are...Ohio State?




________________________________
From: John Labbe <johnl@mac.com>
To: NU <nwu-sports@tssi.com>; nwu-sports@tssi.com
Sent: Wed, March 23, 2011 7:03:59 PM
Subject: [NU Sports] Casto's suspension lifted

The Washington State AD lifted DeAngelo Casto's suspension for tonight's game 
supposedly based on "new information."

It's strange that the coach didn't reinstate him since the coach had suspended 
him for breaking team rules.

See

http://sbn.to/hEVpv9

?
On Mar 22, 2011, at 07:17 PM, Tom Maycock <tkmaycock@yahoo.com> wrote:

> Wow, sounds like several of their players have been busy off the court. More 
on
> Casto and the other issues:
>
> http://www.spokesman.com/stories/2011/mar/22/casto-suspended-nit-quarterfinal/
>
> I hope both the program and those players sort things out, but in the short
> term, having their strong-rebounding power forward out of the game is probably
> to NU's advantage.
>
> Tom
>
> _______________________________________________
> nwu-sports site list
> nwu-sports@tssi.com
> http://romaine.tssi.com/mailman/listinfo/nwu-sports
_______________________________________________
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http://romaine.tssi.com/mailman/listinfo/nwu-sports
From eschoeman at sbcglobal.net  Wed Mar 23 19:28:50 2011
From: eschoeman at sbcglobal.net (Evans Schoeman)
Date: Wed Mar 23 19:29:05 2011
Subject: [NU Sports] Casto's suspension lifted
In-Reply-To: <9963147a-31e4-4289-99b6-cba8d9db315d@me.com>
References: <9963147a-31e4-4289-99b6-cba8d9db315d@me.com>
Message-ID: <320114.53684.qm@web83901.mail.sp1.yahoo.com>

Who do they think they are...Ohio State?




________________________________
From: John Labbe <johnl@mac.com>
To: NU <nwu-sports@tssi.com>; nwu-sports@tssi.com
Sent: Wed, March 23, 2011 7:03:59 PM
Subject: [NU Sports] Casto's suspension lifted

The Washington State AD lifted DeAngelo Casto's suspension for tonight's game 
supposedly based on "new information."

It's strange that the coach didn't reinstate him since the coach had suspended 
him for breaking team rules.

See

http://sbn.to/hEVpv9

?
On Mar 22, 2011, at 07:17 PM, Tom Maycock <tkmaycock@yahoo.com> wrote:

> Wow, sounds like several of their players have been busy off the court. More 
on
> Casto and the other issues:
>
> http://www.spokesman.com/stories/2011/mar/22/casto-suspended-nit-quarterfinal/
>
> I hope both the program and those players sort things out, but in the short
> term, having their strong-rebounding power forward out of the game is probably
> to NU's advantage.
>
> Tom
>
> _______________________________________________
> nwu-sports site list
> nwu-sports@tssi.com
> http://romaine.tssi.com/mailman/listinfo/nwu-sports
_______________________________________________
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http://romaine.tssi.com/mailman/listinfo/nwu-sports
From hakirsch at aol.com  Wed Mar 23 20:13:06 2011
From: hakirsch at aol.com (hakirsch@aol.com)
Date: Wed Mar 23 20:13:24 2011
Subject: [NU Sports] Wazzoo
In-Reply-To: <7f07.5387fefa.3abbda87@aol.com>
References: <7f07.5387fefa.3abbda87@aol.com>
Message-ID: <246107122-1300929188-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-1389117414-@bda2184.bisx.prod.on.blackberry>

Not sure about my brains but health at my age is more important.  Your statement about exercising every day is inspiring me not to take a day off

Best

Harry
Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry

-----Original Message-----
From: MHRJGScott@aol.com
Date: Wed, 23 Mar 2011 19:21:43 
To: <hakirsch@aol.com>; <nwu-sports-bounces@tssi.com>; <nolan@romaine.tssi.com>; <AJWDBW@aol.com>
Cc: <nwu-sports@tssi.com>
Subject: Re: [NU Sports] Wazzoo

Thanks Harry, just wish I had your brains. Exercise is my passion, all my  
life with a couple brief backslides, for any listers who think it is out of  
reach, just walk, then walk with weights, and swim, then get to a gym or 
health  club, go with a partner, as the news said today sex kills couch 
potatoes. You  got to want it and put up with the pain, like being a CATS or Cubs 
fan (Saints  for a long time) 'nuff said
 
After meeting you and knowing you graduated in the late 60's early 70's, I  
believe it

Harry
------Original Message------
From:  MHRJGScott@aol.com
Sender: nwu-sports-bounces@tssi.com
To:  nolan@romaine.tssi.com
To: AJWDBW@aol.com
Cc:  nwu-sports@tssi.com
Subject: Re: [NU Sports] Wazzoo
Sent: Mar 22, 2011  8:10 PM

screw the recliner, or anyone else handy, and get your but to the  gym, I  
work out like a madman for an hour EVERY DAY and it is the  secret to the  
fountain of  youth
_______________________________________________
nwu-sports site  list
nwu-sports@tssi.com
http://romaine.tssi.com/mailman/listinfo/nwu-sports



From hakirsch at aol.com  Wed Mar 23 20:22:22 2011
From: hakirsch at aol.com (hakirsch@aol.com)
Date: Wed Mar 23 20:24:06 2011
Subject: [NU Sports] Casto's suspension lifted
In-Reply-To: <320114.53684.qm@web83901.mail.sp1.yahoo.com>
References: <9963147a-31e4-4289-99b6-cba8d9db315d@me.com><320114.53684.qm@web83901.mail.sp1.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <2127254624-1300929827-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-732067631-@bda2184.bisx.prod.on.blackberry>

I am guessing that our recent  practices were run on the assumption that  Casto would be out.  Lovely

Harry
Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry

-----Original Message-----
From: Evans Schoeman <eschoeman@sbcglobal.net>
Sender: nwu-sports-bounces@tssi.com
Date: Wed, 23 Mar 2011 17:28:50 
To: John Labbe<johnl@mac.com>; NU<nwu-sports@tssi.com>; <nwu-sports@tssi.com>
Subject: Re: [NU Sports] Casto's suspension lifted

Who do they think they are...Ohio State?



________________________________From: John Labbe <johnl@mac.com>To: NU <nwu-sports@tssi.com>; nwu-sports@tssi.comSent: Wed, March 23, 2011 7:03:59 PMSubject: [NU Sports] Casto's suspension lifted
The Washington State AD lifted DeAngelo Casto's suspension for tonight's game supposedly based on "new information."
It's strange that the coach didn't reinstate him since the coach had suspended him for breaking team rules.
See
http://sbn.to/hEVpv9
?On Mar 22, 2011, at 07:17 PM, Tom Maycock <tkmaycock@yahoo.com> wrote:
> Wow, sounds like several of their players have been busy off the court. More on> Casto and the other issues:>> http://www.spokesman.com/stories/2011/mar/22/casto-suspended-nit-quarterfinal/>> I hope both the program and those players sort things out, but in the short> term, having their strong-rebounding power forward out of the game is probably> to NU's advantage.>> Tom>>_______________________________________________> nwu-sports site list> nwu-sports@tssi.com> http://romaine.tssi.com/mailman/listinfo/nwu-sports_______________________________________________nwu-sports site listnwu-sports@tssi.comhttp://romaine.tssi.com/mailman/listinfo/nwu-sports
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From hakirsch at aol.com  Wed Mar 23 21:08:25 2011
From: hakirsch at aol.com (hakirsch@aol.com)
Date: Wed Mar 23 21:08:53 2011
Subject: [NU Sports] (no subject)
In-Reply-To: <320114.53684.qm@web83901.mail.sp1.yahoo.com>
References: <9963147a-31e4-4289-99b6-cba8d9db315d@me.com><320114.53684.qm@web83901.mail.sp1.yahoo.com>
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We had recent banter about former  DePaul star Mark Aguirre. Apparently he collapsed today working out in Plano

Harry
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-----Original Message-----
From: Evans Schoeman <eschoeman@sbcglobal.net>
Sender: nwu-sports-bounces@tssi.com
Date: Wed, 23 Mar 2011 17:28:50 
To: John Labbe<johnl@mac.com>; NU<nwu-sports@tssi.com>; <nwu-sports@tssi.com>
Subject: Re: [NU Sports] Casto's suspension lifted

Who do they think they are...Ohio State?



________________________________From: John Labbe <johnl@mac.com>To: NU <nwu-sports@tssi.com>; nwu-sports@tssi.comSent: Wed, March 23, 2011 7:03:59 PMSubject: [NU Sports] Casto's suspension lifted
The Washington State AD lifted DeAngelo Casto's suspension for tonight's game supposedly based on "new information."
It's strange that the coach didn't reinstate him since the coach had suspended him for breaking team rules.
See
http://sbn.to/hEVpv9
?On Mar 22, 2011, at 07:17 PM, Tom Maycock <tkmaycock@yahoo.com> wrote:
> Wow, sounds like several of their players have been busy off the court. More on> Casto and the other issues:>> http://www.spokesman.com/stories/2011/mar/22/casto-suspended-nit-quarterfinal/>> I hope both the program and those players sort things out, but in the short> term, having their strong-rebounding power forward out of the game is probably> to NU's advantage.>> Tom>>_______________________________________________> nwu-sports site list> nwu-sports@tssi.com> http://romaine.tssi.com/mailman/listinfo/nwu-sports_______________________________________________nwu-sports site listnwu-sports@tssi.comhttp://romaine.tssi.com/mailman/listinfo/nwu-sports
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From rstetson at capps-assoc.com  Wed Mar 23 22:28:41 2011
From: rstetson at capps-assoc.com (Roy S. Lamberton)
Date: Wed Mar 23 22:28:30 2011
Subject: [NU Sports] Casto's suspension lifted
In-Reply-To: <2127254624-1300929827-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-732067631-@bda2184.bisx.prod.on.blackberry>
References: <9963147a-31e4-4289-99b6-cba8d9db315d@me.com><320114.53684.qm@web83901.mail.sp1.yahoo.com>
	<2127254624-1300929827-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-732067631-@bda2184.bisx.prod.on.blackberry>
Message-ID: <000001cbe9d3$929ac960$b7d05c20$@com>

If I hear one more remark on ESPN2 about how they MUST HAVE FOUND NEW INFO on Casto and all the BS reasons why he was reinstated,

I'll puke

rsl

++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
Roy S. Lamberton - Senior Associate & Unix Guru.
Computer Applications & Support Associates
-------------------- Also ----------------------
"Commissioner" Delaware American Legion Baseball
Director Media Relations - Little League 
  Senior League Softball World Series
CTRCS USN/USNR Retired
Northwestern University - Speech 1974 - 
Chi Phi: Pi 1974, KD 1968
Publisher Emeritus: Purple Reign (Fox Sports)
==========  Go Cats -  Beat 'em All  ===========
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WE DON'T GET FOOLED AGAIN!" -- Pete Townsend
================================================

-----Original Message-----
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Sent: Wednesday, March 23, 2011 9:22 PM
To: Evans Schoeman; nwu-sports-bounces@tssi.com; John Labbe; NU
Subject: Re: [NU Sports] Casto's suspension lifted

I am guessing that our recent  practices were run on the assumption that  Casto would be out.  Lovely

Harry
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-----Original Message-----
From: Evans Schoeman <eschoeman@sbcglobal.net>
Sender: nwu-sports-bounces@tssi.com
Date: Wed, 23 Mar 2011 17:28:50 
To: John Labbe<johnl@mac.com>; NU<nwu-sports@tssi.com>; <nwu-sports@tssi.com>
Subject: Re: [NU Sports] Casto's suspension lifted

Who do they think they are...Ohio State?



________________________________From: John Labbe <johnl@mac.com>To: NU <nwu-sports@tssi.com>; nwu-sports@tssi.comSent: Wed, March 23, 2011 7:03:59 PMSubject: [NU Sports] Casto's suspension lifted
The Washington State AD lifted DeAngelo Casto's suspension for tonight's game supposedly based on "new information."
It's strange that the coach didn't reinstate him since the coach had suspended him for breaking team rules.
See
http://sbn.to/hEVpv9
?On Mar 22, 2011, at 07:17 PM, Tom Maycock <tkmaycock@yahoo.com> wrote:
> Wow, sounds like several of their players have been busy off the court. More on> Casto and the other issues:>> http://www.spokesman.com/stories/2011/mar/22/casto-suspended-nit-quarterfinal/>> I hope both the program and those players sort things out, but in the short> term, having their strong-rebounding power forward out of the game is probably> to NU's advantage.>> Tom>>_______________________________________________> nwu-sports site list> nwu-sports@tssi.com> http://romaine.tssi.com/mailman/listinfo/nwu-sports_______________________________________________nwu-sports site listnwu-sports@tssi.comhttp://romaine.tssi.com/mailman/listinfo/nwu-sports
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From johnl at mac.com  Wed Mar 23 22:36:51 2011
From: johnl at mac.com (Labbe John)
Date: Wed Mar 23 22:37:32 2011
Subject: [NU Sports] Casto's suspension lifted
In-Reply-To: <000001cbe9d3$929ac960$b7d05c20$@com>
References: <9963147a-31e4-4289-99b6-cba8d9db315d@me.com>
	<320114.53684.qm@web83901.mail.sp1.yahoo.com>
	<2127254624-1300929827-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-732067631-@bda2184.bisx.prod.on.blackberry>
	<000001cbe9d3$929ac960$b7d05c20$@com>
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I agree.  The coverage is terrible.  "They must have found new  
evidence" blah blah blah.  When clearly they just decided to let him  
play because he hadn't been convicted of anything, not because of any  
new evidence.

I don't care nearly as much about the underlying issue as I do about  
how it's monopolized the discussion and that the announcers appear to  
be yes men for Washington State.


On Mar 23, 2011, at 10:28 PM, Roy S. Lamberton wrote:

> If I hear one more remark on ESPN2 about how they MUST HAVE FOUND  
> NEW INFO on Casto and all the BS reasons why he was reinstated,
>
> I'll puke
>
> rsl
>
> ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
> Roy S. Lamberton - Senior Associate & Unix Guru.
> Computer Applications & Support Associates
> -------------------- Also ----------------------
> "Commissioner" Delaware American Legion Baseball
> Director Media Relations - Little League
>  Senior League Softball World Series
> CTRCS USN/USNR Retired
> Northwestern University - Speech 1974 -
> Chi Phi: Pi 1974, KD 1968
> Publisher Emeritus: Purple Reign (Fox Sports)
> ==========  Go Cats -  Beat 'em All  ===========
> "...Then I get on my knees and pray,
> WE DON'T GET FOOLED AGAIN!" -- Pete Townsend
> ================================================
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: nwu-sports-bounces@tssi.com [mailto:nwu-sports- 
> bounces@tssi.com] On Behalf Of hakirsch@aol.com
> Sent: Wednesday, March 23, 2011 9:22 PM
> To: Evans Schoeman; nwu-sports-bounces@tssi.com; John Labbe; NU
> Subject: Re: [NU Sports] Casto's suspension lifted
>
> I am guessing that our recent  practices were run on the assumption  
> that  Casto would be out.  Lovely
>
> Harry
> Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Evans Schoeman <eschoeman@sbcglobal.net>
> Sender: nwu-sports-bounces@tssi.com
> Date: Wed, 23 Mar 2011 17:28:50
> To: John Labbe<johnl@mac.com>; NU<nwu-sports@tssi.com>; <nwu-sports@tssi.com 
> >
> Subject: Re: [NU Sports] Casto's suspension lifted
>
> Who do they think they are...Ohio State?
>
>
>
> ________________________________From: John Labbe <johnl@mac.com>To:  
> NU <nwu-sports@tssi.com>; nwu-sports@tssi.comSent: Wed, March 23,  
> 2011 7:03:59 PMSubject: [NU Sports] Casto's suspension lifted
> The Washington State AD lifted DeAngelo Casto's suspension for  
> tonight's game supposedly based on "new information."
> It's strange that the coach didn't reinstate him since the coach had  
> suspended him for breaking team rules.
> See
> http://sbn.to/hEVpv9
> ?On Mar 22, 2011, at 07:17 PM, Tom Maycock <tkmaycock@yahoo.com>  
> wrote:
>> Wow, sounds like several of their players have been busy off the  
>> court. More on> Casto and the other issues:>> http://www.spokesman.com/stories/2011/mar/22/casto-suspended-nit-quarterfinal/ 
>> >> I hope both the program and those players sort things out, but  
>> in the short> term, having their strong-rebounding power forward  
>> out of the game is probably> to NU's advantage.>>  
>> Tom>>_______________________________________________> nwu-sports  
>> site list> nwu-sports@tssi.com> http://romaine.tssi.com/mailman/listinfo/nwu-sports_______________________________________________nwu-sports 
>>  site listnwu-sports@tssi.comhttp://romaine.tssi.com/mailman/listinfo/nwu-sports
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From sjtruog at yahoo.com  Thu Mar 24 00:01:58 2011
From: sjtruog at yahoo.com (SjT (Stephen J. Truog))
Date: Thu Mar 24 00:02:13 2011
Subject: [NU Sports] Um, how was that not a carry?
Message-ID: <571131.11618.qm@web121702.mail.ne1.yahoo.com>

Still some time left, but I only have been able to see the last few minutes and it looks like we got a homer crew.

Ugh - GO CATS!!!
-SjT


* * * * * * * * *
STEPHEN J. TRUOG
sjtruog@yahoo.com
GO CATS!!! GEAUX SAINTS!!!
Super Bowl XLIV Champions!
==========================


      

From hakirsch at aol.com  Thu Mar 24 00:04:41 2011
From: hakirsch at aol.com (hakirsch@aol.com)
Date: Thu Mar 24 00:04:45 2011
Subject: [NU Sports] Um, how was that not a carry?
In-Reply-To: <571131.11618.qm@web121702.mail.ne1.yahoo.com>
References: <571131.11618.qm@web121702.mail.ne1.yahoo.com>
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Should have been called though we got some favorable calls in the second half

Harry
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Date: Wed, 23 Mar 2011 22:01:58 
To: <nwu-sports@tssi.com>
Subject: [NU Sports] Um, how was that not a carry?

Still some time left, but I only have been able to see the last few minutes and it looks like we got a homer crew.

Ugh - GO CATS!!!
-SjT


* * * * * * * * *
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GO CATS!!! GEAUX SAINTS!!!
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From Willie.Weinbaum at espn.com  Thu Mar 24 00:12:20 2011
From: Willie.Weinbaum at espn.com (Weinbaum, Willie)
Date: Thu Mar 24 00:13:49 2011
Subject: [NU Sports] Um, how was that not a carry?
In-Reply-To: <595184019-1300943082-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-140860309-@bda2184.bisx.prod.on.blackberry>
References: <571131.11618.qm@web121702.mail.ne1.yahoo.com>
	<595184019-1300943082-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-140860309-@bda2184.bisx.prod.on.blackberry>
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Unbelievable - like the Outback Bowl!

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To: SjT (Stephen J. Truog); nwu-sports-bounces@tssi.com; nwu-sports@tssi.com
Subject: Re: [NU Sports] Um, how was that not a carry?

Should have been called though we got some favorable calls in the second half

Harry
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Sender: nwu-sports-bounces@tssi.com
Date: Wed, 23 Mar 2011 22:01:58
To: <nwu-sports@tssi.com>
Subject: [NU Sports] Um, how was that not a carry?

Still some time left, but I only have been able to see the last few minutes and it looks like we got a homer crew.

Ugh - GO CATS!!!
-SjT


* * * * * * * * *
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GO CATS!!! GEAUX SAINTS!!!
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From hakirsch at aol.com  Thu Mar 24 00:13:42 2011
From: hakirsch at aol.com (hakirsch@aol.com)
Date: Thu Mar 24 00:13:55 2011
Subject: [NU Sports] Um, how was that not a carry?
In-Reply-To: <571131.11618.qm@web121702.mail.ne1.yahoo.com>
References: <571131.11618.qm@web121702.mail.ne1.yahoo.com>
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Holy smokes.  Into OT as WSU misses 2 FT at the buzzer
Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry

-----Original Message-----
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Sender: nwu-sports-bounces@tssi.com
Date: Wed, 23 Mar 2011 22:01:58 
To: <nwu-sports@tssi.com>
Subject: [NU Sports] Um, how was that not a carry?

Still some time left, but I only have been able to see the last few minutes and it looks like we got a homer crew.

Ugh - GO CATS!!!
-SjT


* * * * * * * * *
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From alan.abrahamson at gmail.com  Thu Mar 24 00:17:01 2011
From: alan.abrahamson at gmail.com (Alan Abrahamson)
Date: Thu Mar 24 00:17:24 2011
Subject: [NU Sports] Um, how was that not a carry?
In-Reply-To: <757223693-1300943632-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-385997454-@bda2184.bisx.prod.on.blackberry>
References: <571131.11618.qm@web121702.mail.ne1.yahoo.com>
	<757223693-1300943632-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-385997454-@bda2184.bisx.prod.on.blackberry>
Message-ID: <-1124969129362136697@unknownmsgid>

Could it be ... destiny?

Go Cats!

Sent from my iPhone

On Mar 23, 2011, at 7:15 PM, "hakirsch@aol.com" <hakirsch@aol.com> wrote:

> Holy smokes.  Into OT as WSU misses 2 FT at the buzzer
> Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: "SjT \(Stephen J. Truog\)" <sjtruog@yahoo.com>
> Sender: nwu-sports-bounces@tssi.com
> Date: Wed, 23 Mar 2011 22:01:58
> To: <nwu-sports@tssi.com>
> Subject: [NU Sports] Um, how was that not a carry?
>
> Still some time left, but I only have been able to see the last few minutes and it looks like we got a homer crew.
>
> Ugh - GO CATS!!!
> -SjT
>
>
> * * * * * * * * *
> STEPHEN J. TRUOG
> sjtruog@yahoo.com
> GO CATS!!! GEAUX SAINTS!!!
> Super Bowl XLIV Champions!
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From tkmaycock at yahoo.com  Thu Mar 24 00:17:33 2011
From: tkmaycock at yahoo.com (Tom Maycock)
Date: Thu Mar 24 00:18:11 2011
Subject: [NU Sports] Um, how was that not a carry?
In-Reply-To: <757223693-1300943632-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-385997454-@bda2184.bisx.prod.on.blackberry>
References: <571131.11618.qm@web121702.mail.ne1.yahoo.com><757223693-1300943632-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-385997454-@bda2184.bisx.prod.on.blackberry>
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Happiest man in Wash is Drew! 

Tom
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Reply-To: hakirsch@aol.com
Subject: Re: [NU Sports] Um, how was that not a carry?

Holy smokes.  Into OT as WSU misses 2 FT at the buzzer
Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry

-----Original Message-----
From: "SjT \(Stephen J. Truog\)" <sjtruog@yahoo.com>
Sender: nwu-sports-bounces@tssi.com
Date: Wed, 23 Mar 2011 22:01:58 
To: <nwu-sports@tssi.com>
Subject: [NU Sports] Um, how was that not a carry?

Still some time left, but I only have been able to see the last few minutes and it looks like we got a homer crew.

Ugh - GO CATS!!!
-SjT


* * * * * * * * *
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From christopher_bailey at yahoo.com  Thu Mar 24 00:32:01 2011
From: christopher_bailey at yahoo.com (Christopher Bailey)
Date: Thu Mar 24 00:32:03 2011
Subject: [NU Sports] I admit I haven't followed a lot of basketball this
	year but ...
Message-ID: <627887.10396.qm@web55608.mail.re4.yahoo.com>

It really sounded (over WGN Radio online) as if the refs hosed the 'Cats.  I'll 
be 
interested to hear if Coach C. has anything to say about it.

Well done to the 'Cats for an impressive post-season run.  Now if the team can 
get thru an off-season without tumult.

GO 'CATS!

Christopher Bailey
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From tbng at comcast.net  Thu Mar 24 00:33:26 2011
From: tbng at comcast.net (Dennis W. Brandt)
Date: Thu Mar 24 00:33:38 2011
Subject: [NU Sports] Um, how was that not a carry?
References: <571131.11618.qm@web121702.mail.ne1.yahoo.com><757223693-1300943632-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-385997454-@bda2184.bisx.prod.on.blackberry>
	<-1124969129362136697@unknownmsgid>
Message-ID: <676811B470814CA6929F9317CA8F54C2@dennismachine>

> Could it be ... destiny?
>
Yep.  The usual destiny for a Northwestern team in post-season.  They played 
a more talented team to the wire and got the breaks at crunch time but in 
the end just didn't have what it takes to win.  Groan.

So how is the football team doing in spring practice? 

From thehaze at earthlink.net  Thu Mar 24 00:40:01 2011
From: thehaze at earthlink.net (Jim Bendat)
Date: Thu Mar 24 00:40:24 2011
Subject: [NU Sports] Losing the biggest game of season in OT
Message-ID: <27133344.1300945201781.JavaMail.root@wamui-cynical.atl.sa.earthlink.net>

Alamo Bowl. One year later, Outback Bowl. A little over one year later, the NIT. So similar, so heartbreaking, and, unfortunately, all too typical.

We will have our day - one day.

Jim B.

From Willie.Weinbaum at espn.com  Thu Mar 24 00:44:47 2011
From: Willie.Weinbaum at espn.com (Weinbaum, Willie)
Date: Thu Mar 24 00:46:05 2011
Subject: [NU Sports] Losing the biggest game of season in OT
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Feeling damned sad - - especially for Juice Thompson, who has been a joy to watch since he started his first game as a freshman.  

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Alamo Bowl. One year later, Outback Bowl. A little over one year later, the NIT. So similar, so heartbreaking, and, unfortunately, all too typical.

We will have our day - one day.

Jim B.

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From rstetson at capps-assoc.com  Thu Mar 24 06:58:06 2011
From: rstetson at capps-assoc.com (Roy S. Lamberton)
Date: Thu Mar 24 06:57:57 2011
Subject: [NU Sports] Losing the biggest game of season in OT
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It is a theory that I've had for a long time regarding NU and officiating.

To be sure, the refs normally do a pretty good job with our games, especially in the Big 10 at home, but we are still fighting the theory that the NU guys can't possibly be "that good."

NU Players help this thought process in the refs by over achieving during games, and doing things that have the refs thinking, "how did that sub-par athlete ever do that."

So we don't get the call because we're not considered that good to the general referee population. We have to keep winning, and making those post season appearances and maybe, just maybe, we'll change a few minds about our guys talents and abilities.

Meanwhile, all seems quiet from Spring Football. The NIT coverage has given Fitz cover to hold practices with few guys covering altho Chris at Scout seems to be having a lot of post practice interviews.

Go Cats!

rsl

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Alamo Bowl. One year later, Outback Bowl. A little over one year later, the NIT. So similar, so heartbreaking, and, unfortunately, all too typical.

We will have our day - one day.

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From hakirsch at aol.com  Thu Mar 24 07:37:43 2011
From: hakirsch at aol.com (hakirsch@aol.com)
Date: Thu Mar 24 07:38:02 2011
Subject: [NU Sports] Losing the biggest game of season in OT
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I watched the game and the officiating was pretty good IMHO. We got some bad calls in the first half and probably got some favorable calls in the second. Wsu seemed to get hit with a few more offensive calls than was warranted throughout the second half. We probably  lucked out on the goaltending call and replays showed the refs were probably right about the foul and clock at the end of regulation, though it was awfully close. In the OT it looked pretty good though too bad we had the out of bounds call reversed in the closing minute, but again it looked right 

All in all we played well but as Dennis said came up short as usual. The Cats run in the NIT was definitely unexpected and great  to see after the disappointment from not going to the NCAA. I feel badly for my friends on the list serve from NY who I'm sure were excited at the possibility of going to MSG to see the Cats in the NIT final 4

Harry
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Subject: RE: [NU Sports] Losing the biggest game of season in OT

It is a theory that I've had for a long time regarding NU and officiating.

To be sure, the refs normally do a pretty good job with our games, especially in the Big 10 at home, but we are still fighting the theory that the NU guys can't possibly be "that good."

NU Players help this thought process in the refs by over achieving during games, and doing things that have the refs thinking, "how did that sub-par athlete ever do that."

So we don't get the call because we're not considered that good to the general referee population. We have to keep winning, and making those post season appearances and maybe, just maybe, we'll change a few minds about our guys talents and abilities.

Meanwhile, all seems quiet from Spring Football. The NIT coverage has given Fitz cover to hold practices with few guys covering altho Chris at Scout seems to be having a lot of post practice interviews.

Go Cats!

rsl

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Director Media Relations - Little League 
  Senior League Softball World Series
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Northwestern University - Speech 1974 - 
Chi Phi: Pi 1974, KD 1968
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To: nwu-sports@tssi.com
Subject: [NU Sports] Losing the biggest game of season in OT

Alamo Bowl. One year later, Outback Bowl. A little over one year later, the NIT. So similar, so heartbreaking, and, unfortunately, all too typical.

We will have our day - one day.

Jim B.

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From tbng at comcast.net  Thu Mar 24 08:18:08 2011
From: tbng at comcast.net (Dennis W. Brandt)
Date: Thu Mar 24 08:18:20 2011
Subject: [NU Sports] Not the refs
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The guys in the purple shirts, not the zebra shirts, lost this game.  The 
WSU defense had some success making Juice a marked man.  Although he 
responded well, there were turnovers and bad shots as a result, and Shurna 
arriving with icicles on his finger tips was a mortal blow.  Then there was 
a play near the end of the first half that, at the time it happened, I said 
to myself (fortunately my wife was in bed and could not hear me talking to 
myself - as if that should matter after 41 years), "That play is going to 
cost us the game."  (Been there before, don't you know.)  Capocci, I think 
it was, was fouled on a three-point attempt that rattled around the rim 
before bouncing out.  Bad luck, but he still has three free throws coming. 
He made one.  He makes two, we win, and the rest of the team didn't shoot 
100% at the stripe either.  And while we did get an unusually high 
percentage of rebounds for us, the inside defense was porous as always.  It 
put us in an early 14-point hole, and we only outscored them by 14 from 
there through the end of regulation.

Perhaps those returnering next season got a lot out of this experience. 
It's a shame that Cobb couldn't have had more playing time. 

From Willie.Weinbaum at espn.com  Thu Mar 24 08:40:31 2011
From: Willie.Weinbaum at espn.com (Weinbaum, Willie)
Date: Thu Mar 24 08:41:49 2011
Subject: [NU Sports] Not the refs
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That was Marcotulio and I was thinking at the time that those misses hurt a lot, too.  But the FT shooting was mostly very good, including in the clutch, and Thompson ended his career on an incredible FT shooting roll.  And Marcotulio had a helluva late-season run, playing with more confidence than ever.  A shame that NU's outside shooting (especially Shurna's) was way off - - I thought that was the crusher in this game, along with uncharacteristic turnovers, including by Juice T.  There were good adjustments to the WSU pressure, but too many good shots were missed.

It was encouraging to see the Cats crash the boards and battle all the way.  And there are many hopeful signs from the returning players, although Juice will be missed terribly.  I consider him the most compelling player and leader I've seen in 30+ years of following and supporting the Wildcats.

Exciting, excruciating, exhausting.  Life of a long-suffering Cats fan.

A big thanks to this team for its heart and dedication.  The loss just short of the NIT Final Four really hurts for the fans but moreso for the ones who deserved the rewards and enjoyment of the opportunity - - this hardworking team that is NU's most successful ever.

>From Blackberry - please excuse typos

W. Weinbaum
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Subject: [NU Sports] Not the refs

The guys in the purple shirts, not the zebra shirts, lost this game.  The
WSU defense had some success making Juice a marked man.  Although he
responded well, there were turnovers and bad shots as a result, and Shurna
arriving with icicles on his finger tips was a mortal blow.  Then there was
a play near the end of the first half that, at the time it happened, I said
to myself (fortunately my wife was in bed and could not hear me talking to
myself - as if that should matter after 41 years), "That play is going to
cost us the game."  (Been there before, don't you know.)  Capocci, I think
it was, was fouled on a three-point attempt that rattled around the rim
before bouncing out.  Bad luck, but he still has three free throws coming.
He made one.  He makes two, we win, and the rest of the team didn't shoot
100% at the stripe either.  And while we did get an unusually high
percentage of rebounds for us, the inside defense was porous as always.  It
put us in an early 14-point hole, and we only outscored them by 14 from
there through the end of regulation.

Perhaps those returnering next season got a lot out of this experience.
It's a shame that Cobb couldn't have had more playing time.

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From Jeff.Beamsley at covisint.com  Thu Mar 24 08:49:25 2011
From: Jeff.Beamsley at covisint.com (Beamsley, Jeff)
Date: Thu Mar 24 08:49:38 2011
Subject: [NU Sports] Not the refs
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First, by way of disclosure, I didn't see the same.  Started too late for me.

Whether or not the refs had a part in the outcome of this game, looking at the results in the tournament so far, there is another factor that seems to have a higher correlation to the game results.  The lower seed has only won 8 of the 28 games played.  The higher seeds also won all four of the quarter final games. I haven't taken the time to do the same analysis on the NCAA tourney, but I suspect that the results aren't as biased to the upper seed there.

I think that the reason it is so difficult for a lower seed to win, particularly in the quarter round, is because it?s a home game for the higher seed.  As close as this game was, I think we would likely all agree that if it had been played in WR rather than the west coast, NU would be heading to MSG.  

So hats off to our guys for being one of the very small number of lower seeds to win a game on the higher seed's home court.  Clearly there are any number of different things that could have happened through this season that could have produced a different set of results at the end of the season.  None of those really matter in the larger scheme of things.  What really matters is that this team played the hand they were dealt.  They grew both as a team and individuals through the season.  They were playing their best basketball at the end of the season, and they never gave up.  NU basketball took an important step forward this year and this team broke new post season ground.  They have every right to be proud of their accomplishments and we should be too.

Jeff



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From: nwu-sports-bounces@tssi.com [mailto:nwu-sports-bounces@tssi.com] On Behalf Of Dennis W. Brandt
Sent: Thursday, March 24, 2011 9:18 AM
To: nwu-sports@tssi.com
Subject: [NU Sports] Not the refs

The guys in the purple shirts, not the zebra shirts, lost this game.  The 
WSU defense had some success making Juice a marked man.  Although he 
responded well, there were turnovers and bad shots as a result, and Shurna 
arriving with icicles on his finger tips was a mortal blow.  Then there was 
a play near the end of the first half that, at the time it happened, I said 
to myself (fortunately my wife was in bed and could not hear me talking to 
myself - as if that should matter after 41 years), "That play is going to 
cost us the game."  (Been there before, don't you know.)  Capocci, I think 
it was, was fouled on a three-point attempt that rattled around the rim 
before bouncing out.  Bad luck, but he still has three free throws coming. 
He made one.  He makes two, we win, and the rest of the team didn't shoot 
100% at the stripe either.  And while we did get an unusually high 
percentage of rebounds for us, the inside defense was porous as always.  It 
put us in an early 14-point hole, and we only outscored them by 14 from 
there through the end of regulation.

Perhaps those returnering next season got a lot out of this experience. 
It's a shame that Cobb couldn't have had more playing time. 

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From Willie.Weinbaum at espn.com  Thu Mar 24 09:02:24 2011
From: Willie.Weinbaum at espn.com (Weinbaum, Willie)
Date: Thu Mar 24 09:03:40 2011
Subject: [NU Sports] Not the refs
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Amen!

>From Blackberry - please excuse typos

W. Weinbaum
Producer
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To: Dennis W. Brandt <tbng@comcast.net>; nwu-sports@tssi.com <nwu-sports@tssi.com>
Sent: Thu Mar 24 09:49:25 2011Subject: RE: [NU Sports] Not the refs

First, by way of disclosure, I didn't see the same.  Started too late for me.

Whether or not the refs had a part in the outcome of this game, looking at the results in the tournament so far, there is another factor that seems to have a higher correlation to the game results.  The lower seed has only won 8 of the 28 games played.  The higher seeds also won all four of the quarter final games. I haven't taken the time to do the same analysis on the NCAA tourney, but I suspect that the results aren't as biased to the upper seed there.

I think that the reason it is so difficult for a lower seed to win, particularly in the quarter round, is because it?s a home game for the higher seed.  As close as this game was, I think we would likely all agree that if it had been played in WR rather than the west coast, NU would be heading to MSG.

So hats off to our guys for being one of the very small number of lower seeds to win a game on the higher seed's home court.  Clearly there are any number of different things that could have happened through this season that could have produced a different set of results at the end of the season.  None of those really matter in the larger scheme of things.  What really matters is that this team played the hand they were dealt.  They grew both as a team and individuals through the season.  They were playing their best basketball at the end of the season, and they never gave up.  NU basketball took an important step forward this year and this team broke new post season ground.  They have every right to be proud of their accomplishments and we should be too.

Jeff



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From: nwu-sports-bounces@tssi.com [mailto:nwu-sports-bounces@tssi.com] On Behalf Of Dennis W. Brandt
Sent: Thursday, March 24, 2011 9:18 AM
To: nwu-sports@tssi.com
Subject: [NU Sports] Not the refs

The guys in the purple shirts, not the zebra shirts, lost this game.  The
WSU defense had some success making Juice a marked man.  Although he
responded well, there were turnovers and bad shots as a result, and Shurna
arriving with icicles on his finger tips was a mortal blow.  Then there was
a play near the end of the first half that, at the time it happened, I said
to myself (fortunately my wife was in bed and could not hear me talking to
myself - as if that should matter after 41 years), "That play is going to
cost us the game."  (Been there before, don't you know.)  Capocci, I think
it was, was fouled on a three-point attempt that rattled around the rim
before bouncing out.  Bad luck, but he still has three free throws coming.
He made one.  He makes two, we win, and the rest of the team didn't shoot
100% at the stripe either.  And while we did get an unusually high
percentage of rebounds for us, the inside defense was porous as always.  It
put us in an early 14-point hole, and we only outscored them by 14 from
there through the end of regulation.

Perhaps those returnering next season got a lot out of this experience.
It's a shame that Cobb couldn't have had more playing time.

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From nolan at romaine.tssi.com  Thu Mar 24 11:36:13 2011
From: nolan at romaine.tssi.com (Mike Nolan)
Date: Thu Mar 24 11:36:17 2011
Subject: [NU Sports] Not the refs
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	from "Beamsley, Jeff" at Mar 24, 2011 09:49:25 AM
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I watched the last few minutes of the 2nd half and overtime.

During that time, I didn't see any obviously bad officiating, but 
I did see a very physical game with the Cats not shooting well
under the pressure, especially in overtime.  
--
Mike Nolan

From sjtruog at yahoo.com  Thu Mar 24 11:47:21 2011
From: sjtruog at yahoo.com (Stephen Truog)
Date: Thu Mar 24 11:47:29 2011
Subject: [NU Sports] Not the refs
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Aside from the missed carry that was about as obvious as Chris webber's travel before the infamous timeout? :)

STEPHEN J. TRUOG
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On Mar 24, 2011, at 9:36 AM, Mike Nolan <nolan@romaine.tssi.com> wrote:

> I watched the last few minutes of the 2nd half and overtime.
> 
> During that time, I didn't see any obviously bad officiating, but 
> I did see a very physical game with the Cats not shooting well
> under the pressure, especially in overtime.  
> --
> Mike Nolan
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From hakirsch at aol.com  Thu Mar 24 11:51:37 2011
From: hakirsch at aol.com (hakirsch@aol.com)
Date: Thu Mar 24 11:51:43 2011
Subject: [NU Sports] Not the refs
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Yes as I have mentioned many times relying on the trey is risky business. Unfortunately we missed quite a few open treys in the OT, particularly in the closing minute .  Our 3 point shooting probably got us to the NIT, but in the end it knocked us out. This is not a criticism per se ,just confirming my beliefs that significant efforts need to be made on getting a few big men to enable us to have an inside game

Harry

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Cc: nwu-sports@tssi.com
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Sent: Mar 24, 2011 9:36 AM

I watched the last few minutes of the 2nd half and overtime.

During that time, I didn't see any obviously bad officiating, but 
I did see a very physical game with the Cats not shooting well
under the pressure, especially in overtime.  
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From tkmaycock at yahoo.com  Thu Mar 24 11:51:44 2011
From: tkmaycock at yahoo.com (Tom Maycock)
Date: Thu Mar 24 11:51:47 2011
Subject: [NU Sports] Not the refs
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>   A shame that NU's outside shooting (especially Shurna's) was way off  - - I 
>thought that was the crusher in this game, along with uncharacteristic  
>turnovers, including by Juice T.  There were good adjustments to the WSU  
>pressure, but too many good shots were missed.


My thoughts exactly. A lot things went on during the game, with offensive and 
defensive advantages flipping from one team to the other as they each adjusted 
schemes, attitudes, and intensity levels. 

But down the stretch, NU got open 3 point shots and didn't make them, and 
compounded that with the turnovers. If, say, Juice and John drain just one more 
of their attempts each, the Cats are on their way to New York. I suspect they 
may have been a little gassed. Alex for sure isn't used to playing those 
minutes, and may not be up to "Juice" standards of conditioning (who is other 
than Juice?). 

I think Cobb's injury really ended up hurting us in this game. We could have 
used his ability to create and his on the ball defense, and Alex probably would 
have been fresher down the stretch as well if Cobb could have played more.  

The good thing about the injury is that Alex got a lot of experience as a 
starter the last few weeks, and made the most of it. That will pay dividends 
next year. 

>  I consider him the most compelling player and leader I've seen  in 30+ years 
>of following and supporting the Wildcats.

Yep, and he did it all with a smile too.

Tough ending, but what a thrilling game, and a thrilling ride at the end of the 
year. 

I was pretty harsh on these guys at times, and I feared a total collapse after 
the first few minutes last night. I was really impressed by the ability of the 
Cats to fight their way back into it in a hostile environment. Also, I think we 
are seeing from the NCAA tourney just how tough the Big 10 was this year. 

Tom

From tkmaycock at yahoo.com  Thu Mar 24 11:53:49 2011
From: tkmaycock at yahoo.com (Tom Maycock)
Date: Thu Mar 24 11:53:51 2011
Subject: [NU Sports] Not the refs
In-Reply-To: <9F8CFA63-2F73-43E6-8B84-B0FE7BFBD840@yahoo.com>
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> Aside from the missed carry that was about as obvious as Chris webber's travel  
>before the infamous timeout? :)

No doubt, that sure looked like a really bad missed call, and at a really bad 
time. But there were a few blown calls in NUs favor as well throughout the 
game. 

Might we have won if we had got that call? Yeah, maybe. But ultimately the Cats 
had their chances and just didn't drain the shots.

Tom

From tkmaycock at yahoo.com  Thu Mar 24 12:02:33 2011
From: tkmaycock at yahoo.com (Tom Maycock)
Date: Thu Mar 24 12:02:50 2011
Subject: [NU Sports] Not the refs
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> significant efforts need to be made on getting a few big men to  enable us to 
>have an inside game

And/or small men who can dribble penetrate and create their own short- to 
mid-range shots. 

I think the lack of guys who can beat their man off the dribble limited us as 
much as anything this year, and led to many of those stretches where all the 
Cats could do is pass it around the perimeter and jack up a desperation 3. 

Anyone see what the VCU point guard did to Purdue? Yikes. Juice could beat 
people off the dribble, but his size really worked against him there (see all 
the shots he got blocked last night). 

I think Cobb has that potential to be that kind of offensive threat. Crawford is 
sort of there--his hops allow him to rise up for shots. If he can be more 
consistent and aggressive with that, and add some more driving to the hoop, it 
will help a lot. 

Tom

From eschoeman at sbcglobal.net  Thu Mar 24 12:05:31 2011
From: eschoeman at sbcglobal.net (Evans Schoeman)
Date: Thu Mar 24 12:05:35 2011
Subject: [NU Sports] Not the refs
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One thing that the Cats showed the last two games (particularly last night) was 
the ability to play tough in hostile environments.? Hopefully, this bodes well 
for the future, as I think that we will have to win more than 1 or 2 Big Ten 
road games to get to the Dance.

As many have mentioned, there are lots of positives to take out of the Big Ten 
and NIT tourney games.? Juice's contributions and leadership will be very tough 
to replace, but just about everyone else is back, and a (hopefully) healthy 
Shurna should give us a big lift next year.




________________________________
From: Tom Maycock <tkmaycock@yahoo.com>
To: "nwu-sports@tssi.com" <nwu-sports@tssi.com>
Sent: Thu, March 24, 2011 11:51:44 AM
Subject: Re: [NU Sports] Not the refs

>? A shame that NU's outside shooting (especially Shurna's) was way off? - - I 
>thought that was the crusher in this game, along with uncharacteristic? 
>turnovers, including by Juice T.? There were good adjustments to the WSU? 
>pressure, but too many good shots were missed.


My thoughts exactly. A lot things went on during the game, with offensive and 
defensive advantages flipping from one team to the other as they each adjusted 
schemes, attitudes, and intensity levels. 

But down the stretch, NU got open 3 point shots and didn't make them, and 
compounded that with the turnovers. If, say, Juice and John drain just one more 
of their attempts each, the Cats are on their way to New York. I suspect they 
may have been a little gassed. Alex for sure isn't used to playing those 
minutes, and may not be up to "Juice" standards of conditioning (who is other 
than Juice?). 

I think Cobb's injury really ended up hurting us in this game. We could have 
used his ability to create and his on the ball defense, and Alex probably would 
have been fresher down the stretch as well if Cobb could have played more.? 

The good thing about the injury is that Alex got a lot of experience as a 
starter the last few weeks, and made the most of it. That will pay dividends 
next year. 

>? I consider him the most compelling player and leader I've seen? in 30+ years 
>of following and supporting the Wildcats.

Yep, and he did it all with a smile too.

Tough ending, but what a thrilling game, and a thrilling ride at the end of the 
year. 

I was pretty harsh on these guys at times, and I feared a total collapse after 
the first few minutes last night. I was really impressed by the ability of the 
Cats to fight their way back into it in a hostile environment. Also, I think we 
are seeing from the NCAA tourney just how tough the Big 10 was this year. 

Tom

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From rstetson at capps-assoc.com  Thu Mar 24 12:17:44 2011
From: rstetson at capps-assoc.com (Roy S. Lamberton)
Date: Thu Mar 24 12:17:37 2011
Subject: [NU Sports] Not the refs
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The point of the trey is to pull the defenders outside so the backdoor cuts work. 

Wazoos matchup zone, something we used to know a lot about, didn't allow for the cutters
until later in the first half, after we started to hit 3 pointers.

Had a few of those early 3's gone in, we would have had a very different result, with a
lot more scoring inside on layups.

But, they contested the 3's and there were no fouls so the weakness of the 3 pointer was
exposed.

I thought the non-turnover in OT was what killed it for NU, altho we should have been able
to get a cutter or two early in OT.

rsl

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Cc: Dennis W. Brandt; nwu-sports@tssi.com
Subject: Re: [NU Sports] Not the refs

Yes as I have mentioned many times relying on the trey is risky business. Unfortunately we
missed quite a few open treys in the OT, particularly in the closing minute .  Our 3 point
shooting probably got us to the NIT, but in the end it knocked us out. This is not a
criticism per se ,just confirming my beliefs that significant efforts need to be made on
getting a few big men to enable us to have an inside game

Harry

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To: Beamsley, Jeff
Cc: Dennis W. Brandt
Cc: nwu-sports@tssi.com
Subject: Re: [NU Sports] Not the refs
Sent: Mar 24, 2011 9:36 AM

I watched the last few minutes of the 2nd half and overtime.

During that time, I didn't see any obviously bad officiating, but 
I did see a very physical game with the Cats not shooting well
under the pressure, especially in overtime.  
--
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From hakirsch at aol.com  Thu Mar 24 12:27:59 2011
From: hakirsch at aol.com (hakirsch@aol.com)
Date: Thu Mar 24 12:28:07 2011
Subject: [NU Sports] Not the refs
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Some of it is the other way around too Part of success of the trey strategy is to be able to burn the defense inside if they come out on you. If you feel you can gamble that the team won't be successful inside you play tight on the outside.  Unfortunately we didn't have that alternative.  Tom was also spot on mentioning the need  for the backcourt guys being able to penetrate. Our offense is either throw it around the perimeter for a 3, or attempt a Princeton back door cut.  With what BC has ,that may have been the best he could do but its tough to get far with those weapons alone

Harry 
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From: "Roy S. Lamberton" <rstetson@capps-assoc.com>
Date: Thu, 24 Mar 2011 13:17:44 
To: <hakirsch@aol.com>; 'Mike Nolan'<nolan@romaine.tssi.com>; <nwu-sports-bounces@tssi.com>; 'Beamsley, Jeff'<Jeff.Beamsley@covisint.com>
Cc: 'Dennis W. Brandt'<tbng@comcast.net>; <nwu-sports@tssi.com>
Subject: RE: [NU Sports] Not the refs

The point of the trey is to pull the defenders outside so the backdoor cuts work. 

Wazoos matchup zone, something we used to know a lot about, didn't allow for the cutters
until later in the first half, after we started to hit 3 pointers.

Had a few of those early 3's gone in, we would have had a very different result, with a
lot more scoring inside on layups.

But, they contested the 3's and there were no fouls so the weakness of the 3 pointer was
exposed.

I thought the non-turnover in OT was what killed it for NU, altho we should have been able
to get a cutter or two early in OT.

rsl

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Chi Phi: Pi 1974, KD 1968
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To: Mike Nolan; nwu-sports-bounces@tssi.com; Beamsley, Jeff
Cc: Dennis W. Brandt; nwu-sports@tssi.com
Subject: Re: [NU Sports] Not the refs

Yes as I have mentioned many times relying on the trey is risky business. Unfortunately we
missed quite a few open treys in the OT, particularly in the closing minute .  Our 3 point
shooting probably got us to the NIT, but in the end it knocked us out. This is not a
criticism per se ,just confirming my beliefs that significant efforts need to be made on
getting a few big men to enable us to have an inside game

Harry

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From: Mike Nolan
Sender: nwu-sports-bounces@tssi.com
To: Beamsley, Jeff
Cc: Dennis W. Brandt
Cc: nwu-sports@tssi.com
Subject: Re: [NU Sports] Not the refs
Sent: Mar 24, 2011 9:36 AM

I watched the last few minutes of the 2nd half and overtime.

During that time, I didn't see any obviously bad officiating, but 
I did see a very physical game with the Cats not shooting well
under the pressure, especially in overtime.  
--
Mike Nolan

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From tkmaycock at yahoo.com  Thu Mar 24 13:06:13 2011
From: tkmaycock at yahoo.com (Tom Maycock)
Date: Thu Mar 24 13:06:18 2011
Subject: [NU Sports] Not the refs
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> Our offense is either throw it around the perimeter for a 3, or  attempt a 
>Princeton back door cut.  

To be fair, I guess a lot of that is by design. From my very limited 
understanding of the fundamental concepts, I think the offense really is focused 
around those two attacks, and de-emphasizes trying to generate mid-range jump 
shot or dribble-drive opportunities. So, maybe it is what it is, regardless of 
who we might put out on the floor. 

It's a lot of fun to watch when it's working, but anytime I see a string of 
missed 3-pointers I find myself longing for the simplicity of a 15-foot pull-up 
jumper. 

Tom

From herms at hotmail.com  Thu Mar 24 13:26:04 2011
From: herms at hotmail.com (Herman Wang)
Date: Thu Mar 24 13:26:40 2011
Subject: [NU Sports] Not the refs
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There is a third wrinkle to the Princeton offense that we generally have not been able to implement, largely due to personnel.  When the three-pointers are falling and the defense has to play tight on the perimeter, a team running the Princeton O can spread the floor out, pass the ball into the low post and have a center go one-on-one with his defender. Conversely, when a Princeton O post player is able to be a dominant force down low, defenses are forced to double team him in the paint, which then opens up the three-point shot. Georgetown, which has had fantastic post players in recent years, utilizes this in running its version of the Princeton offense. 
A few years ago, when we got Michael Thompson (not Juice, but the McDonald's All-American center that transferred from Duke), there was hope that with his size and skill we'd be able to run some low-post plays and really turn us into a completely well-rounded team. But Thompson did not pan out, and other than him, we haven't had any centers able to establish a low-post presence. Luka and Davide, for all their skill and heart, are not capable of dominating in the post, at least not remotely on any kind of consistent basis. So we lose that side of the Princeton Offense, but to their credit, they are generally good passers, particularly Luka, and have been able to pop the occasional three-pointer. 


> Date: Thu, 24 Mar 2011 11:06:13 -0700
> From: tkmaycock@yahoo.com
> Subject: Re: [NU Sports] Not the refs
> To: nwu-sports@tssi.com
> 
> > Our offense is either throw it around the perimeter for a 3, or  attempt a 
> >Princeton back door cut.  
> 
> To be fair, I guess a lot of that is by design. From my very limited 
> understanding of the fundamental concepts, I think the offense really is focused 
> around those two attacks, and de-emphasizes trying to generate mid-range jump 
> shot or dribble-drive opportunities. So, maybe it is what it is, regardless of 
> who we might put out on the floor. 
> 
> It's a lot of fun to watch when it's working, but anytime I see a string of 
> missed 3-pointers I find myself longing for the simplicity of a 15-foot pull-up 
> jumper. 
> 
> Tom
> 
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From hakirsch at aol.com  Thu Mar 24 13:38:17 2011
From: hakirsch at aol.com (hakirsch@aol.com)
Date: Thu Mar 24 13:38:33 2011
Subject: [NU Sports] Not the refs
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And Georgetown's Thompson is a Princeton grad

Harry





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Subject: RE: [NU Sports] Not the refs


There is a third wrinkle to the Princeton offense that we generally have not been able to implement, largely due to personnel.  When the three-pointers are falling and the defense has to play tight on the perimeter, a team running the Princeton O can spread the floor out, pass the ball into the low post and have a center go one-on-one with his defender. Conversely, when a Princeton O post player is able to be a dominant force down low, defenses are forced to double team him in the paint, which then opens up the three-point shot. Georgetown, which has had fantastic post players in recent years, utilizes this in running its version of the Princeton offense. 
A few years ago, when we got Michael Thompson (not Juice, but the McDonald's All-American center that transferred from Duke), there was hope that with his size and skill we'd be able to run some low-post plays and really turn us into a completely well-rounded team. But Thompson did not pan out, and other than him, we haven't had any centers able to establish a low-post presence. Luka and Davide, for all their skill and heart, are not capable of dominating in the post, at least not remotely on any kind of consistent basis. So we lose that side of the Princeton Offense, but to their credit, they are generally good passers, particularly Luka, and have been able to pop the occasional three-pointer. 


> Date: Thu, 24 Mar 2011 11:06:13 -0700
> From: tkmaycock@yahoo.com
> Subject: Re: [NU Sports] Not the refs
> To: nwu-sports@tssi.com
> 
> > Our offense is either throw it around the perimeter for a 3, or  attempt a 
> >Princeton back door cut.  
> 
> To be fair, I guess a lot of that is by design. From my very limited 
> understanding of the fundamental concepts, I think the offense really is focused 
> around those two attacks, and de-emphasizes trying to generate mid-range jump 
> shot or dribble-drive opportunities. So, maybe it is what it is, regardless of 
> who we might put out on the floor. 
> 
> It's a lot of fun to watch when it's working, but anytime I see a string of 
> missed 3-pointers I find myself longing for the simplicity of a 15-foot pull-up 
> jumper. 
> 
> Tom
> 
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From tbng at comcast.net  Thu Mar 24 13:49:08 2011
From: tbng at comcast.net (Dennis W. Brandt)
Date: Thu Mar 24 13:49:31 2011
Subject: [NU Sports] Football
Message-ID: <6AF727222EA9440D861E5F2961CBD06E@dennismachine>

Interesting article by Skip Myslenski on NUsports.com on the Cats' first practice wearing pads and smacking each other around.  It seems that Quentin Williams forgot about baseball and concentrated on football during the off season.  As a result, he's gained 15 pounds (of muscle, presumably) and is much stronger.  Lord knows we need more strength in the defensive line.  Niko Mafuli, on the other hand, has dropped 16 lbs. of fat and "is in the best shape of his life."  He says that he upped his "protein intake, upped the vegetable intake, dropped the carbs."  Hate to tell you, Niko, but vegetables are carbs.  Ask Dr. Akins.  (His books; you're too young to talk to him personally).  Whatever he's eating, it seems to agree with him.  Let's hope becomes extensively disagreeable to opposing quarterbacks this season.

Also an insightful discussion with the coaches and Brian Peters on last year's team collapse following Persa's demise.

Until football begins (and for two months afterward):  GO PHILLIES GO!
From rstetson at capps-assoc.com  Thu Mar 24 14:00:40 2011
From: rstetson at capps-assoc.com (Roy S. Lamberton)
Date: Thu Mar 24 14:00:43 2011
Subject: [NU Sports] Not the refs
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I really think Cobb is the guy they've recruited to be the "slasher."

Marcotullio is the "Mad bomber,"  with Shurna and Crawford in a dual rebound/long range
shot role.

Still have to see a really good PG to make things work next year, but then we all said
that 4 years ago when Juice arrived in Evanston. 

Wouldn't you love to have had a backcourt of Juice and Jitim? With the younger Seacat or
Moore coming off the bench to loosen things up?

rsl
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From: hakirsch@aol.com [mailto:hakirsch@aol.com] 
Sent: Thursday, March 24, 2011 1:28 PM
To: Roy S. Lamberton; 'Mike Nolan'; nwu-sports-bounces@tssi.com; 'Beamsley, Jeff'
Cc: 'Dennis W. Brandt'; nwu-sports@tssi.com
Subject: Re: [NU Sports] Not the refs

Some of it is the other way around too Part of success of the trey strategy is to be able
to burn the defense inside if they come out on you. If you feel you can gamble that the
team won't be successful inside you play tight on the outside.  Unfortunately we didn't
have that alternative.  Tom was also spot on mentioning the need  for the backcourt guys
being able to penetrate. Our offense is either throw it around the perimeter for a 3, or
attempt a Princeton back door cut.  With what BC has ,that may have been the best he could
do but its tough to get far with those weapons alone

Harry 
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-----Original Message-----
From: "Roy S. Lamberton" <rstetson@capps-assoc.com>
Date: Thu, 24 Mar 2011 13:17:44 
To: <hakirsch@aol.com>; 'Mike Nolan'<nolan@romaine.tssi.com>;
<nwu-sports-bounces@tssi.com>; 'Beamsley, Jeff'<Jeff.Beamsley@covisint.com>
Cc: 'Dennis W. Brandt'<tbng@comcast.net>; <nwu-sports@tssi.com>
Subject: RE: [NU Sports] Not the refs

The point of the trey is to pull the defenders outside so the backdoor cuts work. 

Wazoos matchup zone, something we used to know a lot about, didn't allow for the cutters
until later in the first half, after we started to hit 3 pointers.

Had a few of those early 3's gone in, we would have had a very different result, with a
lot more scoring inside on layups.

But, they contested the 3's and there were no fouls so the weakness of the 3 pointer was
exposed.

I thought the non-turnover in OT was what killed it for NU, altho we should have been able
to get a cutter or two early in OT.

rsl

++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
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Computer Applications & Support Associates
-------------------- Also ----------------------
"Commissioner" Delaware American Legion Baseball
Director Media Relations - Little League 
  Senior League Softball World Series
CTRCS USN/USNR Retired
Northwestern University - Speech 1974 - 
Chi Phi: Pi 1974, KD 1968
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==========  Go Cats -? Beat 'em All  ===========
"...Then I get on my knees and pray,
WE DON'T GET FOOLED AGAIN!" -- Pete Townsend
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Subject: Re: [NU Sports] Not the refs

Yes as I have mentioned many times relying on the trey is risky business. Unfortunately we
missed quite a few open treys in the OT, particularly in the closing minute .  Our 3 point
shooting probably got us to the NIT, but in the end it knocked us out. This is not a
criticism per se ,just confirming my beliefs that significant efforts need to be made on
getting a few big men to enable us to have an inside game

Harry

------Original Message------
From: Mike Nolan
Sender: nwu-sports-bounces@tssi.com
To: Beamsley, Jeff
Cc: Dennis W. Brandt
Cc: nwu-sports@tssi.com
Subject: Re: [NU Sports] Not the refs
Sent: Mar 24, 2011 9:36 AM

I watched the last few minutes of the 2nd half and overtime.

During that time, I didn't see any obviously bad officiating, but 
I did see a very physical game with the Cats not shooting well
under the pressure, especially in overtime.  
--
Mike Nolan

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From nolan at romaine.tssi.com  Thu Mar 24 14:20:46 2011
From: nolan at romaine.tssi.com (Mike Nolan)
Date: Thu Mar 24 14:20:48 2011
Subject: [NU Sports] Not the refs
In-Reply-To: <1140897552-1300985499-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-890143236-@bda2184.bisx.prod.on.blackberry>
	from "hakirsch@aol.com" at Mar 24, 2011 04:51:37 PM
Message-ID: <201103241920.p2OJKkHv002389@romaine.tssi.com>

> Yes as I have mentioned many times relying on the trey is risky business. Unfortunately we missed quite a few open treys in the OT, particularly in the closing minute .  Our 3 point shooting probably got us to the NIT, but in the end it knocked us out. This is not a criticism per se ,just confirming my beliefs that significant efforts need to be made on getting a few big men to enable us to have an inside game

Sadly, the world is not overrun with big 18 and 19 year old men 
who can actually play the game, much less meet Northwestern's 
academic standards.

And there are a few hundred other schools out there who are also,
as the Marines ads say, looking for a few good [big] men.

I wonder if the Cats' NIT run, even though too short, is likely to have 
any impact on recruiting?
--
Mike Nolan

From Jeff.Beamsley at covisint.com  Thu Mar 24 14:54:13 2011
From: Jeff.Beamsley at covisint.com (Beamsley, Jeff)
Date: Thu Mar 24 14:54:23 2011
Subject: [NU Sports] Not the refs
In-Reply-To: <201103241920.p2OJKkHv002389@romaine.tssi.com>
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	from "hakirsch@aol.com" at Mar 24,
	2011 04:51:37 PM <201103241920.p2OJKkHv002389@romaine.tssi.com>
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I'm sure it will have an impact on recruiting.

The prospect of being on the first team to take NU to the NCAA
tournament was certainly on the minds of people like Cobb and Crawford.


As far as big 18-year olds, I'm with you.  The pool of available
prospects for NU is very small and the competition is stiff.  

But when you see the team that Princeton, without the benefit of an
athletic scholarship, was able to put on the court, there is definitely
hope for NU.  Their biggest guy is a 6-11 sophomore who doesn't start
and averages around 3 points and 3 rebounds per game.  Like NU, they
usually give away a lot of size at center.  They were able to take a
much more athletic Kentucky team within a basket of a huge upset.  We
were that close to a couple of big upsets too. It is definitely
possible.

Jeff


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From: Mike Nolan [mailto:nolan@romaine.tssi.com] 
Sent: Thursday, March 24, 2011 3:21 PM
To: hakirsch@aol.com
Cc: nwu-sports-bounces@tssi.com; Beamsley, Jeff; Dennis W. Brandt;
nwu-sports@tssi.com
Subject: Re: [NU Sports] Not the refs

> Yes as I have mentioned many times relying on the trey is risky
business. Unfortunately we missed quite a few open treys in the OT,
particularly in the closing minute .  Our 3 point shooting probably got
us to the NIT, but in the end it knocked us out. This is not a criticism
per se ,just confirming my beliefs that significant efforts need to be
made on getting a few big men to enable us to have an inside game

Sadly, the world is not overrun with big 18 and 19 year old men 
who can actually play the game, much less meet Northwestern's 
academic standards.

And there are a few hundred other schools out there who are also,
as the Marines ads say, looking for a few good [big] men.

I wonder if the Cats' NIT run, even though too short, is likely to have 
any impact on recruiting?
--
Mike Nolan



From rstetson at capps-assoc.com  Thu Mar 24 15:32:49 2011
From: rstetson at capps-assoc.com (Roy S. Lamberton)
Date: Thu Mar 24 15:32:51 2011
Subject: [NU Sports] Not the refs
In-Reply-To: <FA7822545C26F244823CA5D312ABBDEA06DE1A54@nasa-dtw-ex006.nasa.cpwr.corp>
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	2011 04:51:37 PM <201103241920.p2OJKkHv002389@romaine.tssi.com>
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I'm sure that the knowledge that you could have a team like Princeton be competitive was on BC's mind when he took the NU job.

I don't think he realized how hard the recruiting would be - after all those big guys with brains tend to drift towards Stanford or the Ivy League (where they don't have athletic scholarships, but where a kid who can play sports can get a full "academic" ride - ask Craig Robinson.)

I've seen interviews with several kids on the east coast who would thrive at NU but who choose to go to the Ivies because the cost is the same after financial aid, and Princeton/Yale/Penn/Hah-vahd still carries a lot of more weight than NU around the pool at the country club.

We need to work at getting a few kids recruited by Lacrosse here in Delaware.... the good kids are going to Salisbury State, a Div III power.

rsl

++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
Roy S. Lamberton - Senior Associate & Unix Guru.
Computer Applications & Support Associates
-------------------- Also ----------------------
"Commissioner" Delaware American Legion Baseball
Director Media Relations - Little League 
  Senior League Softball World Series
CTRCS USN/USNR Retired
Northwestern University - Speech 1974 - 
Chi Phi: Pi 1974, KD 1968
Publisher Emeritus: Purple Reign (Fox Sports)
==========  Go Cats -  Beat 'em All  ===========
"...Then I get on my knees and pray,
WE DON'T GET FOOLED AGAIN!" -- Pete Townsend
================================================
But when you see the team that Princeton, without the benefit of an
athletic scholarship, was able to put on the court, there is definitely
hope for NU.  Their biggest guy is a 6-11 sophomore who doesn't start
and averages around 3 points and 3 rebounds per game.  Like NU, they
usually give away a lot of size at center.  They were able to take a
much more athletic Kentucky team within a basket of a huge upset.  We
were that close to a couple of big upsets too. It is definitely
possible.

Jeff



From wildelk2 at aol.com  Fri Mar 25 15:01:03 2011
From: wildelk2 at aol.com (wildelk2@aol.com)
Date: Fri Mar 25 15:01:17 2011
Subject: [NU Sports] Not the refs
In-Reply-To: <002901cbea55$c70f0080$552d0180$@com>
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    Coach,


   Your post offers proof we've had good players in Evanston, just not enough.  That said, I'm happy how our team played since beating Minnesota on the last regular season game.  Shurna played better, and the team was without Cobb and Capocci.  The last 6 games salvaged what looked like a step backwards.
   I feel bad for Capocci and Ryan; two guys who had the injury bug while they were here.  Lets hope Shurna stays healthy next season.  They will need that to happen as replacing Juice will require the rest of the team to "crank it up a notch."  
   Ad I've posted before, I feel we've been 2 conference wins short of making the tournament the past 2 seasons.  How much closer can we get?  Any way, feeling better about our future prospects than I was 2 weeks ago...


   GO CATS!!      Eric 




-----Original Message-----
From: Roy S. Lamberton <rstetson@capps-assoc.com>
To: hakirsch <hakirsch@aol.com>
Cc: nwu-sports <nwu-sports@tssi.com>
Sent: Thu, Mar 24, 2011 11:01 am
Subject: RE: [NU Sports] Not the refs


I really think Cobb is the guy they've recruited to be the "slasher."

Marcotullio is the "Mad bomber,"  with Shurna and Crawford in a dual 
rebound/long range
shot role.

Still have to see a really good PG to make things work next year, but then we 
all said
that 4 years ago when Juice arrived in Evanston. 

Wouldn't you love to have had a backcourt of Juice and Jitim? With the younger 
Seacat or
Moore coming off the bench to loosen things up?

rsl
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
Roy S. Lamberton - Senior Associate & Unix Guru.
Computer Applications & Support Associates
-------------------- Also ----------------------
"Commissioner" Delaware American Legion Baseball
Director Media Relations - Little League 
  Senior League Softball World Series
CTRCS USN/USNR Retired
Northwestern University - Speech 1974 - 
Chi Phi: Pi 1974, KD 1968
Publisher Emeritus: Purple Reign (Fox Sports)
==========  Go Cats -  Beat 'em All  ===========
"...Then I get on my knees and pray,
WE DON'T GET FOOLED AGAIN!" -- Pete Townsend
================================================


-----Original Message-----
From: hakirsch@aol.com [mailto:hakirsch@aol.com] 
Sent: Thursday, March 24, 2011 1:28 PM
To: Roy S. Lamberton; 'Mike Nolan'; nwu-sports-bounces@tssi.com; 'Beamsley, 
Jeff'
Cc: 'Dennis W. Brandt'; nwu-sports@tssi.com
Subject: Re: [NU Sports] Not the refs

Some of it is the other way around too Part of success of the trey strategy is 
to be able
to burn the defense inside if they come out on you. If you feel you can gamble 
that the
team won't be successful inside you play tight on the outside.  Unfortunately we 
didn't
have that alternative.  Tom was also spot on mentioning the need  for the 
backcourt guys
being able to penetrate. Our offense is either throw it around the perimeter for 
a 3, or
attempt a Princeton back door cut.  With what BC has ,that may have been the 
best he could
do but its tough to get far with those weapons alone

Harry 
Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry

-----Original Message-----
From: "Roy S. Lamberton" <rstetson@capps-assoc.com>
Date: Thu, 24 Mar 2011 13:17:44 
To: <hakirsch@aol.com>; 'Mike Nolan'<nolan@romaine.tssi.com>;
<nwu-sports-bounces@tssi.com>; 'Beamsley, Jeff'<Jeff.Beamsley@covisint.com>
Cc: 'Dennis W. Brandt'<tbng@comcast.net>; <nwu-sports@tssi.com>
Subject: RE: [NU Sports] Not the refs

The point of the trey is to pull the defenders outside so the backdoor cuts 
work. 

Wazoos matchup zone, something we used to know a lot about, didn't allow for the 
cutters
until later in the first half, after we started to hit 3 pointers.

Had a few of those early 3's gone in, we would have had a very different result, 
with a
lot more scoring inside on layups.

But, they contested the 3's and there were no fouls so the weakness of the 3 
pointer was
exposed.

I thought the non-turnover in OT was what killed it for NU, altho we should have 
been able
to get a cutter or two early in OT.

rsl

++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
Roy S. Lamberton - Senior Associate & Unix Guru.
Computer Applications & Support Associates
-------------------- Also ----------------------
"Commissioner" Delaware American Legion Baseball
Director Media Relations - Little League 
  Senior League Softball World Series
CTRCS USN/USNR Retired
Northwestern University - Speech 1974 - 
Chi Phi: Pi 1974, KD 1968
Publisher Emeritus: Purple Reign (Fox Sports)
==========  Go Cats -  Beat 'em All  ===========
"...Then I get on my knees and pray,
WE DON'T GET FOOLED AGAIN!" -- Pete Townsend
================================================


-----Original Message-----
From: nwu-sports-bounces@tssi.com [mailto:nwu-sports-bounces@tssi.com] On Behalf 
Of
hakirsch@aol.com
Sent: Thursday, March 24, 2011 12:52 PM
To: Mike Nolan; nwu-sports-bounces@tssi.com; Beamsley, Jeff
Cc: Dennis W. Brandt; nwu-sports@tssi.com
Subject: Re: [NU Sports] Not the refs

Yes as I have mentioned many times relying on the trey is risky business. 
Unfortunately we
missed quite a few open treys in the OT, particularly in the closing minute .  
Our 3 point
shooting probably got us to the NIT, but in the end it knocked us out. This is 
not a
criticism per se ,just confirming my beliefs that significant efforts need to be 
made on
getting a few big men to enable us to have an inside game

Harry

------Original Message------
From: Mike Nolan
Sender: nwu-sports-bounces@tssi.com
To: Beamsley, Jeff
Cc: Dennis W. Brandt
Cc: nwu-sports@tssi.com
Subject: Re: [NU Sports] Not the refs
Sent: Mar 24, 2011 9:36 AM

I watched the last few minutes of the 2nd half and overtime.

During that time, I didn't see any obviously bad officiating, but 
I did see a very physical game with the Cats not shooting well
under the pressure, especially in overtime.  
--
Mike Nolan

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From Jeff.Beamsley at covisint.com  Fri Mar 25 15:35:50 2011
From: Jeff.Beamsley at covisint.com (Beamsley, Jeff)
Date: Fri Mar 25 15:36:27 2011
Subject: [NU Sports] Not the refs
In-Reply-To: <8CDB93E809E2EE1-1F0-439D@webmail-d143.sysops.aol.com>
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One other data point that we should keep in mind is that the BT was a
tough basketball conference this year and will likely be as tough or
tougher next year (assuming all the underclassmen at OSU and Michigan
return).

So our struggles in the conference this year only masked the reality
that this team does have some talent.  We proved that in the post
season.

We also aren't the only team in the BT that depends heavily on our
outside shooting to win.  Wisconsin's season ended last night because
their outside shots wouldn't fall.  I suspect everyone on this list
(except maybe Dennis) would have been overjoyed if our team got to the
sweet 16 before a weak inside game caught up to us.

Jeff




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From: nwu-sports-bounces@tssi.com [mailto:nwu-sports-bounces@tssi.com]
On Behalf Of wildelk2@aol.com
Sent: Friday, March 25, 2011 4:01 PM
To: rstetson@capps-assoc.com; nwu-sports@tssi.com
Subject: Re: [NU Sports] Not the refs


    Coach,


   Your post offers proof we've had good players in Evanston, just not
enough.  That said, I'm happy how our team played since beating
Minnesota on the last regular season game.  Shurna played better, and
the team was without Cobb and Capocci.  The last 6 games salvaged what
looked like a step backwards.
   I feel bad for Capocci and Ryan; two guys who had the injury bug
while they were here.  Lets hope Shurna stays healthy next season.  They
will need that to happen as replacing Juice will require the rest of the
team to "crank it up a notch."  
   Ad I've posted before, I feel we've been 2 conference wins short of
making the tournament the past 2 seasons.  How much closer can we get?
Any way, feeling better about our future prospects than I was 2 weeks
ago...


   GO CATS!!      Eric 




-----Original Message-----
From: Roy S. Lamberton <rstetson@capps-assoc.com>
To: hakirsch <hakirsch@aol.com>
Cc: nwu-sports <nwu-sports@tssi.com>
Sent: Thu, Mar 24, 2011 11:01 am
Subject: RE: [NU Sports] Not the refs


I really think Cobb is the guy they've recruited to be the "slasher."

Marcotullio is the "Mad bomber,"  with Shurna and Crawford in a dual 
rebound/long range
shot role.

Still have to see a really good PG to make things work next year, but
then we 
all said
that 4 years ago when Juice arrived in Evanston. 

Wouldn't you love to have had a backcourt of Juice and Jitim? With the
younger 
Seacat or
Moore coming off the bench to loosen things up?

rsl
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
Roy S. Lamberton - Senior Associate & Unix Guru.
Computer Applications & Support Associates
-------------------- Also ----------------------
"Commissioner" Delaware American Legion Baseball
Director Media Relations - Little League 
  Senior League Softball World Series
CTRCS USN/USNR Retired
Northwestern University - Speech 1974 - 
Chi Phi: Pi 1974, KD 1968
Publisher Emeritus: Purple Reign (Fox Sports)
==========  Go Cats -  Beat 'em All  ===========
"...Then I get on my knees and pray,
WE DON'T GET FOOLED AGAIN!" -- Pete Townsend
================================================


-----Original Message-----
From: hakirsch@aol.com [mailto:hakirsch@aol.com] 
Sent: Thursday, March 24, 2011 1:28 PM
To: Roy S. Lamberton; 'Mike Nolan'; nwu-sports-bounces@tssi.com;
'Beamsley, 
Jeff'
Cc: 'Dennis W. Brandt'; nwu-sports@tssi.com
Subject: Re: [NU Sports] Not the refs

Some of it is the other way around too Part of success of the trey
strategy is 
to be able
to burn the defense inside if they come out on you. If you feel you can
gamble 
that the
team won't be successful inside you play tight on the outside.
Unfortunately we 
didn't
have that alternative.  Tom was also spot on mentioning the need  for
the 
backcourt guys
being able to penetrate. Our offense is either throw it around the
perimeter for 
a 3, or
attempt a Princeton back door cut.  With what BC has ,that may have been
the 
best he could
do but its tough to get far with those weapons alone

Harry 
Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry

-----Original Message-----
From: "Roy S. Lamberton" <rstetson@capps-assoc.com>
Date: Thu, 24 Mar 2011 13:17:44 
To: <hakirsch@aol.com>; 'Mike Nolan'<nolan@romaine.tssi.com>;
<nwu-sports-bounces@tssi.com>; 'Beamsley,
Jeff'<Jeff.Beamsley@covisint.com>
Cc: 'Dennis W. Brandt'<tbng@comcast.net>; <nwu-sports@tssi.com>
Subject: RE: [NU Sports] Not the refs

The point of the trey is to pull the defenders outside so the backdoor
cuts 
work. 

Wazoos matchup zone, something we used to know a lot about, didn't allow
for the 
cutters
until later in the first half, after we started to hit 3 pointers.

Had a few of those early 3's gone in, we would have had a very different
result, 
with a
lot more scoring inside on layups.

But, they contested the 3's and there were no fouls so the weakness of
the 3 
pointer was
exposed.

I thought the non-turnover in OT was what killed it for NU, altho we
should have 
been able
to get a cutter or two early in OT.

rsl

++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
Roy S. Lamberton - Senior Associate & Unix Guru.
Computer Applications & Support Associates
-------------------- Also ----------------------
"Commissioner" Delaware American Legion Baseball
Director Media Relations - Little League 
  Senior League Softball World Series
CTRCS USN/USNR Retired
Northwestern University - Speech 1974 - 
Chi Phi: Pi 1974, KD 1968
Publisher Emeritus: Purple Reign (Fox Sports)
==========  Go Cats -  Beat 'em All  ===========
"...Then I get on my knees and pray,
WE DON'T GET FOOLED AGAIN!" -- Pete Townsend
================================================


-----Original Message-----
From: nwu-sports-bounces@tssi.com [mailto:nwu-sports-bounces@tssi.com]
On Behalf 
Of
hakirsch@aol.com
Sent: Thursday, March 24, 2011 12:52 PM
To: Mike Nolan; nwu-sports-bounces@tssi.com; Beamsley, Jeff
Cc: Dennis W. Brandt; nwu-sports@tssi.com
Subject: Re: [NU Sports] Not the refs

Yes as I have mentioned many times relying on the trey is risky
business. 
Unfortunately we
missed quite a few open treys in the OT, particularly in the closing
minute .  
Our 3 point
shooting probably got us to the NIT, but in the end it knocked us out.
This is 
not a
criticism per se ,just confirming my beliefs that significant efforts
need to be 
made on
getting a few big men to enable us to have an inside game

Harry

------Original Message------
From: Mike Nolan
Sender: nwu-sports-bounces@tssi.com
To: Beamsley, Jeff
Cc: Dennis W. Brandt
Cc: nwu-sports@tssi.com
Subject: Re: [NU Sports] Not the refs
Sent: Mar 24, 2011 9:36 AM

I watched the last few minutes of the 2nd half and overtime.

During that time, I didn't see any obviously bad officiating, but 
I did see a very physical game with the Cats not shooting well
under the pressure, especially in overtime.  
--
Mike Nolan

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From scottzel at gmail.com  Fri Mar 25 15:41:55 2011
From: scottzel at gmail.com (Scott Zeller, M.D.)
Date: Fri Mar 25 15:41:58 2011
Subject: [NU Sports] Not the refs
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You have to assume, like every year, that several of the OSU guys will go
pro. But they always seem to have the top freshmen in the country coming in
as replacements to give it another go. OSU's program really seems to have
become the one-year stop for NBA-bound teenagers needing to age enough to
qualify for the draft.

On Fri, Mar 25, 2011 at 1:35 PM, Beamsley, Jeff
<Jeff.Beamsley@covisint.com>wrote:

> One other data point that we should keep in mind is that the BT was a
> tough basketball conference this year and will likely be as tough or
> tougher next year (assuming all the underclassmen at OSU and Michigan
> return).
>
> So our struggles in the conference this year only masked the reality
> that this team does have some talent.  We proved that in the post
> season.
>
> We also aren't the only team in the BT that depends heavily on our
> outside shooting to win.  Wisconsin's season ended last night because
> their outside shots wouldn't fall.  I suspect everyone on this list
> (except maybe Dennis) would have been overjoyed if our team got to the
> sweet 16 before a weak inside game caught up to us.
>
> Jeff
>
>
>
>
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> From: nwu-sports-bounces@tssi.com [mailto:nwu-sports-bounces@tssi.com]
> On Behalf Of wildelk2@aol.com
> Sent: Friday, March 25, 2011 4:01 PM
> To: rstetson@capps-assoc.com; nwu-sports@tssi.com
>  Subject: Re: [NU Sports] Not the refs
>
>
>    Coach,
>
>
>   Your post offers proof we've had good players in Evanston, just not
> enough.  That said, I'm happy how our team played since beating
> Minnesota on the last regular season game.  Shurna played better, and
> the team was without Cobb and Capocci.  The last 6 games salvaged what
> looked like a step backwards.
>   I feel bad for Capocci and Ryan; two guys who had the injury bug
> while they were here.  Lets hope Shurna stays healthy next season.  They
> will need that to happen as replacing Juice will require the rest of the
> team to "crank it up a notch."
>   Ad I've posted before, I feel we've been 2 conference wins short of
> making the tournament the past 2 seasons.  How much closer can we get?
> Any way, feeling better about our future prospects than I was 2 weeks
> ago...
>
>
>   GO CATS!!      Eric
>
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Roy S. Lamberton <rstetson@capps-assoc.com>
> To: hakirsch <hakirsch@aol.com>
> Cc: nwu-sports <nwu-sports@tssi.com>
> Sent: Thu, Mar 24, 2011 11:01 am
> Subject: RE: [NU Sports] Not the refs
>
>
> I really think Cobb is the guy they've recruited to be the "slasher."
>
> Marcotullio is the "Mad bomber,"  with Shurna and Crawford in a dual
> rebound/long range
> shot role.
>
> Still have to see a really good PG to make things work next year, but
> then we
> all said
> that 4 years ago when Juice arrived in Evanston.
>
> Wouldn't you love to have had a backcourt of Juice and Jitim? With the
> younger
> Seacat or
> Moore coming off the bench to loosen things up?
>
> rsl
> ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
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> Computer Applications & Support Associates
> -------------------- Also ----------------------
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>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: hakirsch@aol.com [mailto:hakirsch@aol.com]
> Sent: Thursday, March 24, 2011 1:28 PM
> To: Roy S. Lamberton; 'Mike Nolan'; nwu-sports-bounces@tssi.com;
> 'Beamsley,
> Jeff'
> Cc: 'Dennis W. Brandt'; nwu-sports@tssi.com
> Subject: Re: [NU Sports] Not the refs
>
> Some of it is the other way around too Part of success of the trey
> strategy is
> to be able
> to burn the defense inside if they come out on you. If you feel you can
> gamble
> that the
> team won't be successful inside you play tight on the outside.
> Unfortunately we
> didn't
> have that alternative.  Tom was also spot on mentioning the need  for
> the
> backcourt guys
> being able to penetrate. Our offense is either throw it around the
> perimeter for
> a 3, or
> attempt a Princeton back door cut.  With what BC has ,that may have been
> the
> best he could
> do but its tough to get far with those weapons alone
>
> Harry
> Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: "Roy S. Lamberton" <rstetson@capps-assoc.com>
> Date: Thu, 24 Mar 2011 13:17:44
> To: <hakirsch@aol.com>; 'Mike Nolan'<nolan@romaine.tssi.com>;
> <nwu-sports-bounces@tssi.com>; 'Beamsley,
> Jeff'<Jeff.Beamsley@covisint.com>
> Cc: 'Dennis W. Brandt'<tbng@comcast.net>; <nwu-sports@tssi.com>
> Subject: RE: [NU Sports] Not the refs
>
> The point of the trey is to pull the defenders outside so the backdoor
> cuts
> work.
>
> Wazoos matchup zone, something we used to know a lot about, didn't allow
> for the
> cutters
> until later in the first half, after we started to hit 3 pointers.
>
> Had a few of those early 3's gone in, we would have had a very different
> result,
> with a
> lot more scoring inside on layups.
>
> But, they contested the 3's and there were no fouls so the weakness of
> the 3
> pointer was
> exposed.
>
> I thought the non-turnover in OT was what killed it for NU, altho we
> should have
> been able
> to get a cutter or two early in OT.
>
> rsl
>
> ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
> Roy S. Lamberton - Senior Associate & Unix Guru.
> Computer Applications & Support Associates
> -------------------- Also ----------------------
> "Commissioner" Delaware American Legion Baseball
> Director Media Relations - Little League
>  Senior League Softball World Series
> CTRCS USN/USNR Retired
> Northwestern University - Speech 1974 -
> Chi Phi: Pi 1974, KD 1968
> Publisher Emeritus: Purple Reign (Fox Sports)
> ==========  Go Cats -  Beat 'em All  ===========
> "...Then I get on my knees and pray,
> WE DON'T GET FOOLED AGAIN!" -- Pete Townsend
> ================================================
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: nwu-sports-bounces@tssi.com [mailto:nwu-sports-bounces@tssi.com]
> On Behalf
> Of
> hakirsch@aol.com
> Sent: Thursday, March 24, 2011 12:52 PM
> To: Mike Nolan; nwu-sports-bounces@tssi.com; Beamsley, Jeff
> Cc: Dennis W. Brandt; nwu-sports@tssi.com
> Subject: Re: [NU Sports] Not the refs
>
> Yes as I have mentioned many times relying on the trey is risky
> business.
> Unfortunately we
> missed quite a few open treys in the OT, particularly in the closing
> minute .
> Our 3 point
> shooting probably got us to the NIT, but in the end it knocked us out.
> This is
> not a
> criticism per se ,just confirming my beliefs that significant efforts
> need to be
> made on
> getting a few big men to enable us to have an inside game
>
> Harry
>
> ------Original Message------
> From: Mike Nolan
> Sender: nwu-sports-bounces@tssi.com
> To: Beamsley, Jeff
> Cc: Dennis W. Brandt
> Cc: nwu-sports@tssi.com
> Subject: Re: [NU Sports] Not the refs
> Sent: Mar 24, 2011 9:36 AM
>
> I watched the last few minutes of the 2nd half and overtime.
>
> During that time, I didn't see any obviously bad officiating, but
> I did see a very physical game with the Cats not shooting well
> under the pressure, especially in overtime.
> --
> Mike Nolan
>
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From wildelk2 at aol.com  Fri Mar 25 16:08:33 2011
From: wildelk2 at aol.com (wildelk2@aol.com)
Date: Fri Mar 25 16:08:58 2011
Subject: [NU Sports] Casto's suspension lifted
In-Reply-To: <320114.53684.qm@web83901.mail.sp1.yahoo.com>
References: <9963147a-31e4-4289-99b6-cba8d9db315d@me.com>
	<320114.53684.qm@web83901.mail.sp1.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <8CDB947EEA09101-1F0-5237@webmail-d143.sysops.aol.com>

    All,


   From now on, when a program acts in a specious manner like Wazzu or tOSU,  I will always back up their claim and state: "...based on new information."   This was really a beauty!   Or maybe old information, like he leads the team in rebounding, surfaced?  Or new information, like he had 5 Big Macs after smoking all that Mary-Jane filled him up, so he could play?   Shameful Cougars.


   Eric





-----Original Message-----
From: Evans Schoeman <eschoeman@sbcglobal.net>
To: John Labbe <johnl@mac.com>; NU <nwu-sports@tssi.com>; nwu-sports <nwu-sports@tssi.com>
Sent: Wed, Mar 23, 2011 4:29 pm
Subject: Re: [NU Sports] Casto's suspension lifted


Who do they think they are...Ohio State?




________________________________
From: John Labbe <johnl@mac.com>
To: NU <nwu-sports@tssi.com>; nwu-sports@tssi.com
Sent: Wed, March 23, 2011 7:03:59 PM
Subject: [NU Sports] Casto's suspension lifted

The Washington State AD lifted DeAngelo Casto's suspension for tonight's game 
supposedly based on "new information."

It's strange that the coach didn't reinstate him since the coach had suspended 
him for breaking team rules.

See

http://sbn.to/hEVpv9

?
On Mar 22, 2011, at 07:17 PM, Tom Maycock <tkmaycock@yahoo.com> wrote:

> Wow, sounds like several of their players have been busy off the court. More 
on
> Casto and the other issues:
>
> http://www.spokesman.com/stories/2011/mar/22/casto-suspended-nit-quarterfinal/
>
> I hope both the program and those players sort things out, but in the short
> term, having their strong-rebounding power forward out of the game is probably
> to NU's advantage.
>
> Tom
>
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From Jeff.Beamsley at covisint.com  Fri Mar 25 16:14:38 2011
From: Jeff.Beamsley at covisint.com (Beamsley, Jeff)
Date: Fri Mar 25 16:14:58 2011
Subject: [NU Sports] Casto's suspension lifted
In-Reply-To: <8CDB947EEA09101-1F0-5237@webmail-d143.sysops.aol.com>
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Or the classic, "the information was shared with me in confidence and I didn't know who to tell".

Jeff


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From: nwu-sports-bounces@tssi.com [mailto:nwu-sports-bounces@tssi.com] On Behalf Of wildelk2@aol.com
Sent: Friday, March 25, 2011 5:09 PM
To: eschoeman@sbcglobal.net; nwu-sports@tssi.com
Subject: Re: [NU Sports] Casto's suspension lifted


    All,


   From now on, when a program acts in a specious manner like Wazzu or tOSU,  I will always back up their claim and state: "...based on new information."   This was really a beauty!   Or maybe old information, like he leads the team in rebounding, surfaced?  Or new information, like he had 5 Big Macs after smoking all that Mary-Jane filled him up, so he could play?   Shameful Cougars.


   Eric





-----Original Message-----
From: Evans Schoeman <eschoeman@sbcglobal.net>
To: John Labbe <johnl@mac.com>; NU <nwu-sports@tssi.com>; nwu-sports <nwu-sports@tssi.com>
Sent: Wed, Mar 23, 2011 4:29 pm
Subject: Re: [NU Sports] Casto's suspension lifted


Who do they think they are...Ohio State?




________________________________
From: John Labbe <johnl@mac.com>
To: NU <nwu-sports@tssi.com>; nwu-sports@tssi.com
Sent: Wed, March 23, 2011 7:03:59 PM
Subject: [NU Sports] Casto's suspension lifted

The Washington State AD lifted DeAngelo Casto's suspension for tonight's game 
supposedly based on "new information."

It's strange that the coach didn't reinstate him since the coach had suspended 
him for breaking team rules.

See

http://sbn.to/hEVpv9

?
On Mar 22, 2011, at 07:17 PM, Tom Maycock <tkmaycock@yahoo.com> wrote:

> Wow, sounds like several of their players have been busy off the court. More 
on
> Casto and the other issues:
>
> http://www.spokesman.com/stories/2011/mar/22/casto-suspended-nit-quarterfinal/
>
> I hope both the program and those players sort things out, but in the short
> term, having their strong-rebounding power forward out of the game is probably
> to NU's advantage.
>
> Tom
>
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From nolan at romaine.tssi.com  Fri Mar 25 16:47:06 2011
From: nolan at romaine.tssi.com (Mike Nolan)
Date: Fri Mar 25 16:47:08 2011
Subject: [NU Sports] Not the refs
In-Reply-To: <FA7822545C26F244823CA5D312ABBDEA06DE1C78@nasa-dtw-ex006.nasa.cpwr.corp>
	from "Beamsley, Jeff" at Mar 25, 2011 04:35:50 PM
Message-ID: <201103252147.p2PLl607006718@romaine.tssi.com>

But the good news is that Northwestern appeared to be at least as good
as Nebraska in men's basketball (at least in 2010-11), so adding 
Nebraska to the conference could push Northwestern up a notch 
in conference rankings.
--
Mike Nolan


> One other data point that we should keep in mind is that the BT was a
> tough basketball conference this year and will likely be as tough or
> tougher next year (assuming all the underclassmen at OSU and Michigan
> return).
> 
> So our struggles in the conference this year only masked the reality
> that this team does have some talent.  We proved that in the post
> season.
> 
> We also aren't the only team in the BT that depends heavily on our
> outside shooting to win.  Wisconsin's season ended last night because
> their outside shots wouldn't fall.  I suspect everyone on this list
> (except maybe Dennis) would have been overjoyed if our team got to the
> sweet 16 before a weak inside game caught up to us.
> 
> Jeff
> 
> 
> 
> 
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> From: nwu-sports-bounces@tssi.com [mailto:nwu-sports-bounces@tssi.com]
> On Behalf Of wildelk2@aol.com
> Sent: Friday, March 25, 2011 4:01 PM
> To: rstetson@capps-assoc.com; nwu-sports@tssi.com
> Subject: Re: [NU Sports] Not the refs
> 
> 
>     Coach,
> 
> 
>    Your post offers proof we've had good players in Evanston, just not
> enough.  That said, I'm happy how our team played since beating
> Minnesota on the last regular season game.  Shurna played better, and
> the team was without Cobb and Capocci.  The last 6 games salvaged what
> looked like a step backwards.
>    I feel bad for Capocci and Ryan; two guys who had the injury bug
> while they were here.  Lets hope Shurna stays healthy next season.  They
> will need that to happen as replacing Juice will require the rest of the
> team to "crank it up a notch."  
>    Ad I've posted before, I feel we've been 2 conference wins short of
> making the tournament the past 2 seasons.  How much closer can we get?
> Any way, feeling better about our future prospects than I was 2 weeks
> ago...
> 
> 
>    GO CATS!!      Eric 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Roy S. Lamberton <rstetson@capps-assoc.com>
> To: hakirsch <hakirsch@aol.com>
> Cc: nwu-sports <nwu-sports@tssi.com>
> Sent: Thu, Mar 24, 2011 11:01 am
> Subject: RE: [NU Sports] Not the refs
> 
> 
> I really think Cobb is the guy they've recruited to be the "slasher."
> 
> Marcotullio is the "Mad bomber,"  with Shurna and Crawford in a dual 
> rebound/long range
> shot role.
> 
> Still have to see a really good PG to make things work next year, but
> then we 
> all said
> that 4 years ago when Juice arrived in Evanston. 
> 
> Wouldn't you love to have had a backcourt of Juice and Jitim? With the
> younger 
> Seacat or
> Moore coming off the bench to loosen things up?
> 
> rsl
> ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
> Roy S. Lamberton - Senior Associate & Unix Guru.
> Computer Applications & Support Associates
> -------------------- Also ----------------------
> "Commissioner" Delaware American Legion Baseball
> Director Media Relations - Little League 
>   Senior League Softball World Series
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> Northwestern University - Speech 1974 - 
> Chi Phi: Pi 1974, KD 1968
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> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: hakirsch@aol.com [mailto:hakirsch@aol.com] 
> Sent: Thursday, March 24, 2011 1:28 PM
> To: Roy S. Lamberton; 'Mike Nolan'; nwu-sports-bounces@tssi.com;
> 'Beamsley, 
> Jeff'
> Cc: 'Dennis W. Brandt'; nwu-sports@tssi.com
> Subject: Re: [NU Sports] Not the refs
> 
> Some of it is the other way around too Part of success of the trey
> strategy is 
> to be able
> to burn the defense inside if they come out on you. If you feel you can
> gamble 
> that the
> team won't be successful inside you play tight on the outside.
> Unfortunately we 
> didn't
> have that alternative.  Tom was also spot on mentioning the need  for
> the 
> backcourt guys
> being able to penetrate. Our offense is either throw it around the
> perimeter for 
> a 3, or
> attempt a Princeton back door cut.  With what BC has ,that may have been
> the 
> best he could
> do but its tough to get far with those weapons alone
> 
> Harry 
> Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: "Roy S. Lamberton" <rstetson@capps-assoc.com>
> Date: Thu, 24 Mar 2011 13:17:44 
> To: <hakirsch@aol.com>; 'Mike Nolan'<nolan@romaine.tssi.com>;
> <nwu-sports-bounces@tssi.com>; 'Beamsley,
> Jeff'<Jeff.Beamsley@covisint.com>
> Cc: 'Dennis W. Brandt'<tbng@comcast.net>; <nwu-sports@tssi.com>
> Subject: RE: [NU Sports] Not the refs
> 
> The point of the trey is to pull the defenders outside so the backdoor
> cuts 
> work. 
> 
> Wazoos matchup zone, something we used to know a lot about, didn't allow
> for the 
> cutters
> until later in the first half, after we started to hit 3 pointers.
> 
> Had a few of those early 3's gone in, we would have had a very different
> result, 
> with a
> lot more scoring inside on layups.
> 
> But, they contested the 3's and there were no fouls so the weakness of
> the 3 
> pointer was
> exposed.
> 
> I thought the non-turnover in OT was what killed it for NU, altho we
> should have 
> been able
> to get a cutter or two early in OT.
> 
> rsl
> 
> ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
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> Computer Applications & Support Associates
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> Director Media Relations - Little League 
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> Northwestern University - Speech 1974 - 
> Chi Phi: Pi 1974, KD 1968
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> "...Then I get on my knees and pray,
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> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: nwu-sports-bounces@tssi.com [mailto:nwu-sports-bounces@tssi.com]
> On Behalf 
> Of
> hakirsch@aol.com
> Sent: Thursday, March 24, 2011 12:52 PM
> To: Mike Nolan; nwu-sports-bounces@tssi.com; Beamsley, Jeff
> Cc: Dennis W. Brandt; nwu-sports@tssi.com
> Subject: Re: [NU Sports] Not the refs
> 
> Yes as I have mentioned many times relying on the trey is risky
> business. 
> Unfortunately we
> missed quite a few open treys in the OT, particularly in the closing
> minute .  
> Our 3 point
> shooting probably got us to the NIT, but in the end it knocked us out.
> This is 
> not a
> criticism per se ,just confirming my beliefs that significant efforts
> need to be 
> made on
> getting a few big men to enable us to have an inside game
> 
> Harry
> 
> ------Original Message------
> From: Mike Nolan
> Sender: nwu-sports-bounces@tssi.com
> To: Beamsley, Jeff
> Cc: Dennis W. Brandt
> Cc: nwu-sports@tssi.com
> Subject: Re: [NU Sports] Not the refs
> Sent: Mar 24, 2011 9:36 AM
> 
> I watched the last few minutes of the 2nd half and overtime.
> 
> During that time, I didn't see any obviously bad officiating, but 
> I did see a very physical game with the Cats not shooting well
> under the pressure, especially in overtime.  
> --
> Mike Nolan
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From rstetson at capps-assoc.com  Fri Mar 25 18:44:19 2011
From: rstetson at capps-assoc.com (Roy S. Lamberton)
Date: Fri Mar 25 18:44:22 2011
Subject: [NU Sports] Not the refs
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The last weekend of blowouts suggests that some of the winners of smaller conference tournaments don?t really belong in the NCAA 64, and that the top 10 or 12 NIT teams probably did.

Here's why: NU plays dOSU to 2 big overtime games, and almost wins a 3rd? The next week, dOSU wins their first 2 NCAA Tourney games by over 60 points? 

I guess it's nice for the big guys to have an easy weekend of roundball against lesser competition, but either NU or Wazoo would have challenged dOSU and we wound up playing each other in the "lesser" tourney.

I guess the smaller conferences deserve to get a seat at the big table, but you almost with THEY had the play in game, and teams like NU, with proven ability to win big games, were ranked somewhere among the lower seeds.

rsl



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-----Original Message-----
From: Beamsley, Jeff [mailto:Jeff.Beamsley@covisint.com] 
Sent: Friday, March 25, 2011 4:36 PM
To: wildelk2@aol.com; rstetson@capps-assoc.com; nwu-sports@tssi.com
Subject: RE: [NU Sports] Not the refs

One other data point that we should keep in mind is that the BT was a
tough basketball conference this year and will likely be as tough or
tougher next year (assuming all the underclassmen at OSU and Michigan
return).

So our struggles in the conference this year only masked the reality
that this team does have some talent.  We proved that in the post
season.

We also aren't the only team in the BT that depends heavily on our
outside shooting to win.  Wisconsin's season ended last night because
their outside shots wouldn't fall.  I suspect everyone on this list
(except maybe Dennis) would have been overjoyed if our team got to the
sweet 16 before a weak inside game caught up to us.

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From: nwu-sports-bounces@tssi.com [mailto:nwu-sports-bounces@tssi.com]
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Sent: Friday, March 25, 2011 4:01 PM
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Subject: Re: [NU Sports] Not the refs


    Coach,


   Your post offers proof we've had good players in Evanston, just not
enough.  That said, I'm happy how our team played since beating
Minnesota on the last regular season game.  Shurna played better, and
the team was without Cobb and Capocci.  The last 6 games salvaged what
looked like a step backwards.
   I feel bad for Capocci and Ryan; two guys who had the injury bug
while they were here.  Lets hope Shurna stays healthy next season.  They
will need that to happen as replacing Juice will require the rest of the
team to "crank it up a notch."  
   Ad I've posted before, I feel we've been 2 conference wins short of
making the tournament the past 2 seasons.  How much closer can we get?
Any way, feeling better about our future prospects than I was 2 weeks
ago...


   GO CATS!!      Eric 




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From: Roy S. Lamberton <rstetson@capps-assoc.com>
To: hakirsch <hakirsch@aol.com>
Cc: nwu-sports <nwu-sports@tssi.com>
Sent: Thu, Mar 24, 2011 11:01 am
Subject: RE: [NU Sports] Not the refs


I really think Cobb is the guy they've recruited to be the "slasher."

Marcotullio is the "Mad bomber,"  with Shurna and Crawford in a dual 
rebound/long range
shot role.

Still have to see a really good PG to make things work next year, but
then we 
all said
that 4 years ago when Juice arrived in Evanston. 

Wouldn't you love to have had a backcourt of Juice and Jitim? With the
younger 
Seacat or
Moore coming off the bench to loosen things up?

rsl
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  Senior League Softball World Series
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Northwestern University - Speech 1974 - 
Chi Phi: Pi 1974, KD 1968
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-----Original Message-----
From: hakirsch@aol.com [mailto:hakirsch@aol.com] 
Sent: Thursday, March 24, 2011 1:28 PM
To: Roy S. Lamberton; 'Mike Nolan'; nwu-sports-bounces@tssi.com;
'Beamsley, 
Jeff'
Cc: 'Dennis W. Brandt'; nwu-sports@tssi.com
Subject: Re: [NU Sports] Not the refs

Some of it is the other way around too Part of success of the trey
strategy is 
to be able
to burn the defense inside if they come out on you. If you feel you can
gamble 
that the
team won't be successful inside you play tight on the outside.
Unfortunately we 
didn't
have that alternative.  Tom was also spot on mentioning the need  for
the 
backcourt guys
being able to penetrate. Our offense is either throw it around the
perimeter for 
a 3, or
attempt a Princeton back door cut.  With what BC has ,that may have been
the 
best he could
do but its tough to get far with those weapons alone

Harry 
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-----Original Message-----
From: "Roy S. Lamberton" <rstetson@capps-assoc.com>
Date: Thu, 24 Mar 2011 13:17:44 
To: <hakirsch@aol.com>; 'Mike Nolan'<nolan@romaine.tssi.com>;
<nwu-sports-bounces@tssi.com>; 'Beamsley,
Jeff'<Jeff.Beamsley@covisint.com>
Cc: 'Dennis W. Brandt'<tbng@comcast.net>; <nwu-sports@tssi.com>
Subject: RE: [NU Sports] Not the refs

The point of the trey is to pull the defenders outside so the backdoor
cuts 
work. 

Wazoos matchup zone, something we used to know a lot about, didn't allow
for the 
cutters
until later in the first half, after we started to hit 3 pointers.

Had a few of those early 3's gone in, we would have had a very different
result, 
with a
lot more scoring inside on layups.

But, they contested the 3's and there were no fouls so the weakness of
the 3 
pointer was
exposed.

I thought the non-turnover in OT was what killed it for NU, altho we
should have 
been able
to get a cutter or two early in OT.

rsl

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Computer Applications & Support Associates
-------------------- Also ----------------------
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Director Media Relations - Little League 
  Senior League Softball World Series
CTRCS USN/USNR Retired
Northwestern University - Speech 1974 - 
Chi Phi: Pi 1974, KD 1968
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-----Original Message-----
From: nwu-sports-bounces@tssi.com [mailto:nwu-sports-bounces@tssi.com]
On Behalf 
Of
hakirsch@aol.com
Sent: Thursday, March 24, 2011 12:52 PM
To: Mike Nolan; nwu-sports-bounces@tssi.com; Beamsley, Jeff
Cc: Dennis W. Brandt; nwu-sports@tssi.com
Subject: Re: [NU Sports] Not the refs

Yes as I have mentioned many times relying on the trey is risky
business. 
Unfortunately we
missed quite a few open treys in the OT, particularly in the closing
minute .  
Our 3 point
shooting probably got us to the NIT, but in the end it knocked us out.
This is 
not a
criticism per se ,just confirming my beliefs that significant efforts
need to be 
made on
getting a few big men to enable us to have an inside game

Harry

------Original Message------
From: Mike Nolan
Sender: nwu-sports-bounces@tssi.com
To: Beamsley, Jeff
Cc: Dennis W. Brandt
Cc: nwu-sports@tssi.com
Subject: Re: [NU Sports] Not the refs
Sent: Mar 24, 2011 9:36 AM

I watched the last few minutes of the 2nd half and overtime.

During that time, I didn't see any obviously bad officiating, but 
I did see a very physical game with the Cats not shooting well
under the pressure, especially in overtime.  
--
Mike Nolan

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From nolan at romaine.tssi.com  Fri Mar 25 20:01:01 2011
From: nolan at romaine.tssi.com (Mike Nolan)
Date: Fri Mar 25 20:01:03 2011
Subject: [NU Sports] Not the refs
In-Reply-To: <000601cbeb46$8f94c1c0$aebe4540$@com> from "Roy S. Lamberton" at
	Mar 25, 2011 07:44:19 PM
Message-ID: <201103260101.p2Q111di007242@romaine.tssi.com>

> I guess the smaller conferences deserve to get a seat at the big table, but you almost with THEY had the play in game, and teams like NU, with proven ability to win big games, were ranked somewhere among the lower seeds.

And if they ever come up with a FBS playoff that involves more than 8 teams, I
suspect it will suffer from the same 'let the lesser conferences have more
seats at the table' problem that the NCAA Tournament has fallen victim to.

I saw a poll the other day:  Will a #16 seed ever defeat a #1 seed.

IMHO, not without outside help, like food poisoning or several arrests.  
--
Mike Nolan

From Willie.Weinbaum at espn.com  Fri Mar 25 20:33:50 2011
From: Willie.Weinbaum at espn.com (Weinbaum, Willie)
Date: Fri Mar 25 20:35:05 2011
Subject: [NU Sports] Not NU-related, but perhaps of interest
Message-ID: <1F89BB2CE7A5B94D969618E8CC769CC36874B61D@XCHGBRS4.corp.espn.pvt>

The TV piece I worked on most recently - - with Tom Friend - - on Tony Gwynn's cancer ordeal, is to air this Sunday on ESPN's Outside the Lines, 9a E.  If you have the chance to see it, please don't hesitate to get in touch with any feedback.  

Thanks, 
Willie


>From Blackberry - please excuse typos

W. Weinbaum
Producer
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From Willie.Weinbaum at espn.com  Fri Mar 25 21:05:38 2011
From: Willie.Weinbaum at espn.com (Weinbaum, Willie)
Date: Fri Mar 25 21:07:00 2011
Subject: [NU Sports] Re: WSU's Casto
Message-ID: <1F89BB2CE7A5B94D969618E8CC769CC36874B627@XCHGBRS4.corp.espn.pvt>

http://www.komonews.com/sports/118543719.html

>From Blackberry - please excuse typos

W. Weinbaum
Producer
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From nolan at romaine.tssi.com  Fri Mar 25 21:21:24 2011
From: nolan at romaine.tssi.com (Mike Nolan)
Date: Fri Mar 25 21:21:27 2011
Subject: [NU Sports] Re: WSU's Casto
In-Reply-To: <1F89BB2CE7A5B94D969618E8CC769CC36874B627@XCHGBRS4.corp.espn.pvt>
	from "Weinbaum, Willie" at Mar 25, 2011 10:05:38 PM
Message-ID: <201103260221.p2Q2LOEj007456@romaine.tssi.com>

I thought Castro played forward, not high post.
--
Mike Nolan

> 
> http://www.komonews.com/sports/118543719.html
> 
> >From Blackberry - please excuse typos
> 
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> Producer
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From artmiller_news at yahoo.com  Fri Mar 25 21:48:39 2011
From: artmiller_news at yahoo.com (Arthur Miller)
Date: Fri Mar 25 21:48:42 2011
Subject: [NU Sports] Casto's suspension lifted
In-Reply-To: <8CDB947EEA09101-1F0-5237@webmail-d143.sysops.aol.com>
References: <9963147a-31e4-4289-99b6-cba8d9db315d@me.com>
	<320114.53684.qm@web83901.mail.sp1.yahoo.com>
	<8CDB947EEA09101-1F0-5237@webmail-d143.sysops.aol.com>
Message-ID: <951329.61767.qm@web113716.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>

Perhaps it's just me, but every time I hear that phrase "new information has 
come to light" (repeated about 20x during the TV broadcast) I think of this 
scene from The Big Lebowski.

Imagine?The Dude?as the WSU AD, and The Big Lebowski as NCAA chairman Mark 
Emmert talking right after Castro's reinstatement was announced:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bUtL6m19gcQ


?


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From: "wildelk2@aol.com" <wildelk2@aol.com>
To: eschoeman@sbcglobal.net; nwu-sports@tssi.com
Sent: Fri, March 25, 2011 4:08:33 PM
Subject: Re: [NU Sports] Casto's suspension lifted

? ? All,


? From now on, when a program acts in a specious manner like Wazzu or tOSU,? I 
will always back up their claim and state: "...based on new information."? This 
was really a beauty!? Or maybe old information, like he leads the team in 
rebounding, surfaced?? Or new information, like he had 5 Big Macs after smoking 
all that Mary-Jane filled him up, so he could play?? Shameful Cougars.


? Eric





-----Original Message-----
From: Evans Schoeman <eschoeman@sbcglobal.net>
To: John Labbe <johnl@mac.com>; NU <nwu-sports@tssi.com>; nwu-sports 
<nwu-sports@tssi.com>
Sent: Wed, Mar 23, 2011 4:29 pm
Subject: Re: [NU Sports] Casto's suspension lifted


Who do they think they are...Ohio State?




________________________________
From: John Labbe <johnl@mac.com>
To: NU <nwu-sports@tssi.com>; nwu-sports@tssi.com
Sent: Wed, March 23, 2011 7:03:59 PM
Subject: [NU Sports] Casto's suspension lifted

The Washington State AD lifted DeAngelo Casto's suspension for tonight's game 
supposedly based on "new information."

It's strange that the coach didn't reinstate him since the coach had suspended 
him for breaking team rules.

See

http://sbn.to/hEVpv9

?
On Mar 22, 2011, at 07:17 PM, Tom Maycock <tkmaycock@yahoo.com> wrote:

> Wow, sounds like several of their players have been busy off the court. More 
on
> Casto and the other issues:
>
> http://www.spokesman.com/stories/2011/mar/22/casto-suspended-nit-quarterfinal/
>
> I hope both the program and those players sort things out, but in the short
> term, having their strong-rebounding power forward out of the game is probably
> to NU's advantage.
>
> Tom
>
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From rstetson at capps-assoc.com  Fri Mar 25 22:45:15 2011
From: rstetson at capps-assoc.com (Roy S. Lamberton)
Date: Fri Mar 25 22:45:29 2011
Subject: [NU Sports] Casto's suspension lifted
In-Reply-To: <951329.61767.qm@web113716.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>
References: <9963147a-31e4-4289-99b6-cba8d9db315d@me.com>	<320114.53684.qm@web83901.mail.sp1.yahoo.com>	<8CDB947EEA09101-1F0-5237@webmail-d143.sysops.aol.com>
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Looks like the poipatratuh was obsoived rolling da joint for da kid who suffahs from a medical condition dat reqwize him to use medical marry-wahn-uh.

Obviously da alleged poipetratuh was just administering da kid's medicine.

Dats how I sees it. Fuhget dat da alleged poipetratuh dominated the lane.

rsl

++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
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Computer Applications & Support Associates
-------------------- Also ----------------------
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Director Media Relations - Little League 
  Senior League Softball World Series
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Northwestern University - Speech 1974 - 
Chi Phi: Pi 1974, KD 1968
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-----Original Message-----
From: nwu-sports-bounces@tssi.com [mailto:nwu-sports-bounces@tssi.com] On Behalf Of Arthur Miller
Sent: Friday, March 25, 2011 10:49 PM
To: nwu-sports@tssi.com
Subject: Re: [NU Sports] Casto's suspension lifted

Perhaps it's just me, but every time I hear that phrase "new information has 
come to light" (repeated about 20x during the TV broadcast) I think of this 
scene from The Big Lebowski.

Imagine The Dude as the WSU AD, and The Big Lebowski as NCAA chairman Mark 
Emmert talking right after Castro's reinstatement was announced:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bUtL6m19gcQ


 


----- Original Message ----
From: "wildelk2@aol.com" <wildelk2@aol.com>
To: eschoeman@sbcglobal.net; nwu-sports@tssi.com
Sent: Fri, March 25, 2011 4:08:33 PM
Subject: Re: [NU Sports] Casto's suspension lifted

    All,


  From now on, when a program acts in a specious manner like Wazzu or tOSU,  I 
will always back up their claim and state: "...based on new information."  This 
was really a beauty!  Or maybe old information, like he leads the team in 
rebounding, surfaced?  Or new information, like he had 5 Big Macs after smoking 
all that Mary-Jane filled him up, so he could play?  Shameful Cougars.


  Eric





-----Original Message-----
From: Evans Schoeman <eschoeman@sbcglobal.net>
To: John Labbe <johnl@mac.com>; NU <nwu-sports@tssi.com>; nwu-sports 
<nwu-sports@tssi.com>
Sent: Wed, Mar 23, 2011 4:29 pm
Subject: Re: [NU Sports] Casto's suspension lifted


Who do they think they are...Ohio State?




________________________________
From: John Labbe <johnl@mac.com>
To: NU <nwu-sports@tssi.com>; nwu-sports@tssi.com
Sent: Wed, March 23, 2011 7:03:59 PM
Subject: [NU Sports] Casto's suspension lifted

The Washington State AD lifted DeAngelo Casto's suspension for tonight's game 
supposedly based on "new information."

It's strange that the coach didn't reinstate him since the coach had suspended 
him for breaking team rules.

See

http://sbn.to/hEVpv9

?
On Mar 22, 2011, at 07:17 PM, Tom Maycock <tkmaycock@yahoo.com> wrote:

> Wow, sounds like several of their players have been busy off the court. More 
on
> Casto and the other issues:
>
> http://www.spokesman.com/stories/2011/mar/22/casto-suspended-nit-quarterfinal/
>
> I hope both the program and those players sort things out, but in the short
> term, having their strong-rebounding power forward out of the game is probably
> to NU's advantage.
>
> Tom
>
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From cherron604 at aol.com  Fri Mar 25 22:56:01 2011
From: cherron604 at aol.com (cherron604@aol.com)
Date: Fri Mar 25 22:56:31 2011
Subject: [NU Sports] Facilities  Survey
Message-ID: <8CDB980DB63FC9E-1CCC-2193D@webmail-m048.sysops.aol.com>


 A friend texted tonight, asking if I had received the 'Facilities Survey', so I checked my email

As a 25 year season-ticket holder from box 230 on the west side upstairs, this survey was very worrisome

 .
First, I can't see them enhancing the stadium in an economic downturn when we almost never sell out the stadium.

Second, too many of the options in the survey looked like ways to squeeze out the less-affluent fans.

Third, as an older fan, nearing a fixed-income retirement, I am sensitive to attempts to price-out older and less affluent fans

All of this in a stadium that rarely sells out, and only does when the visiting fans buy up the seats

Chuck Herron   Tech '85


From Willie.Weinbaum at espn.com  Fri Mar 25 23:01:30 2011
From: Willie.Weinbaum at espn.com (Weinbaum, Willie)
Date: Fri Mar 25 23:02:47 2011
Subject: [NU Sports] Cats vs Ohio St
Message-ID: <1F89BB2CE7A5B94D969618E8CC769CC36874B632@XCHGBRS4.corp.espn.pvt>

Kentucky's Cats did slightly better against OSU than NU did, twice. :)

That's it for the Big Ten.

>From Blackberry - please excuse typos

W. Weinbaum
Producer
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From eschoeman at sbcglobal.net  Fri Mar 25 23:13:41 2011
From: eschoeman at sbcglobal.net (Evans Schoeman)
Date: Fri Mar 25 23:13:53 2011
Subject: [NU Sports] Casto's suspension lifted
In-Reply-To: <000601cbeb68$38322e50$a8968af0$@com>
References: <9963147a-31e4-4289-99b6-cba8d9db315d@me.com>
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	<000601cbeb68$38322e50$a8968af0$@com>
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Funny, but Casto got away with a fighting incident last year, after a 
"compromise" was reached.

http://www.spokesman.com/blogs/sportslink/2010/may/19/charges-dropped-wsus-casto/#more


Sounds like a good kid...maybe the AD was afraid of him. :)





________________________________
From: Roy S. Lamberton <rstetson@capps-assoc.com>
To: Arthur Miller <artmiller_news@yahoo.com>; nwu-sports@tssi.com
Sent: Fri, March 25, 2011 10:45:15 PM
Subject: RE: [NU Sports] Casto's suspension lifted

Looks like the poipatratuh was obsoived rolling da joint for da kid who suffahs 
from a medical condition dat reqwize him to use medical marry-wahn-uh.

Obviously da alleged poipetratuh was just administering da kid's medicine.

Dats how I sees it. Fuhget dat da alleged poipetratuh dominated the lane.

rsl

++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
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Computer Applications & Support Associates
-------------------- Also ----------------------
"Commissioner" Delaware American Legion Baseball
Director Media Relations - Little League 
? Senior League Softball World Series
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Northwestern University - Speech 1974 - 
Chi Phi: Pi 1974, KD 1968
Publisher Emeritus: Purple Reign (Fox Sports)
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Of Arthur Miller
Sent: Friday, March 25, 2011 10:49 PM
To: nwu-sports@tssi.com
Subject: Re: [NU Sports] Casto's suspension lifted

Perhaps it's just me, but every time I hear that phrase "new information has 
come to light" (repeated about 20x during the TV broadcast) I think of this 
scene from The Big Lebowski.

Imagine The Dude as the WSU AD, and The Big Lebowski as NCAA chairman Mark 
Emmert talking right after Castro's reinstatement was announced:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bUtL6m19gcQ





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? ? All,


? From now on, when a program acts in a specious manner like Wazzu or tOSU,? I 
will always back up their claim and state: "...based on new information."? This 
was really a beauty!? Or maybe old information, like he leads the team in 
rebounding, surfaced?? Or new information, like he had 5 Big Macs after smoking 
all that Mary-Jane filled him up, so he could play?? Shameful Cougars.


? Eric





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Who do they think they are...Ohio State?




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Sent: Wed, March 23, 2011 7:03:59 PM
Subject: [NU Sports] Casto's suspension lifted

The Washington State AD lifted DeAngelo Casto's suspension for tonight's game 
supposedly based on "new information."

It's strange that the coach didn't reinstate him since the coach had suspended 
him for breaking team rules.

See

http://sbn.to/hEVpv9

?
On Mar 22, 2011, at 07:17 PM, Tom Maycock <tkmaycock@yahoo.com> wrote:

> Wow, sounds like several of their players have been busy off the court. More 
on
> Casto and the other issues:
>
> http://www.spokesman.com/stories/2011/mar/22/casto-suspended-nit-quarterfinal/
>
> I hope both the program and those players sort things out, but in the short
> term, having their strong-rebounding power forward out of the game is probably
> to NU's advantage.
>
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From rstetson at capps-assoc.com  Sat Mar 26 10:52:48 2011
From: rstetson at capps-assoc.com (Roy S. Lamberton)
Date: Sat Mar 26 10:53:01 2011
Subject: [NU Sports] dOSU Loss
Message-ID: <000101cbebcd$db4caf10$91e60d30$@com>

Anyone who thinks Sullinger is a one and done will have to rethink.

His older brother told him to go to dOSU and win an NCAA championship. The bad news for
the Big 10 is that now he'll be back in 2012.

rsl

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Date: Sat Mar 26 15:19:52 2011
Subject: [NU Sports] seattletimes.com: WSU basketball team's pot problems
	raise plenty of questions
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From alan.abrahamson at gmail.com  Sat Mar 26 21:01:27 2011
From: alan.abrahamson at gmail.com (Alan Abrahamson)
Date: Sat Mar 26 21:01:35 2011
Subject: [NU Sports] Butler
Message-ID: <-5401942507450665236@unknownmsgid>

News item: Butler advances to Final Four for second straight year.

News item: Northwestern, for 73rd consecutive season, fails to earn a
bid to NCAA tournament.

Discuss.

Who wants to tell me, just to jump start the conversation, that Butler
is recruiting superior athletes?

Or that Butler student-athletes couldn't hack it academically at Northwestern?

Sent from my iPhone

From hakirsch at aol.com  Sat Mar 26 21:11:11 2011
From: hakirsch at aol.com (hakirsch@aol.com)
Date: Sat Mar 26 21:11:41 2011
Subject: [NU Sports] Butler
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I remember Alan making this point awhile ago and he has a good point. Does anyone know how academically selective Butler is with their hoop players ?  We know that Indiana,OHio and -llinois are supposed to be the high school basketball Meccas and they probably have drawn there in the past, though now making the finals one year and at least final 4 the next,they probably will have greater geographic draw

Harry

Harry
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News item: Butler advances to Final Four for second straight year.

News item: Northwestern, for 73rd consecutive season, fails to earn a
bid to NCAA tournament.

Discuss.

Who wants to tell me, just to jump start the conversation, that Butler
is recruiting superior athletes?

Or that Butler student-athletes couldn't hack it academically at Northwestern?

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From neonrye at aol.com  Sat Mar 26 21:33:42 2011
From: neonrye at aol.com (neonrye@aol.com)
Date: Sat Mar 26 21:34:01 2011
Subject: [NU Sports] Butler
In-Reply-To: <-5401942507450665236@unknownmsgid>
References: <-5401942507450665236@unknownmsgid>
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Read article in NY Times today that Matt Howard has 3.37 at Butler, majoring, if memory serves, in Economics.  He is one of 10 children from working-class family.  A great kid, according to the article.  I could see their Coach pacing sideline at Welsh-Ryan--in my dreams.  No offense, Mr. Carmody, but Brad Stevens--who looks like a geeky "Tech weenie"--could be the man to lead us to the promised land.  Only I don't think that's ever gonna happen.:-(

Yes, Alan.  As usual, you have hit the nail on the proverbial head.

Gotta say that although my "bracket" is in tatters, I was a happy guy today with the wins by Butler and our local entry from the Big Least (as SJT loves to say).   Now if VCU shocks the world, that would be sweet as well.  Not a lot other than them to root for tomorrow, as Kentucky-North Carolina is essentially a battle between two ridiculously successful, arrogant programs.  Calipari is always one step ahead of "the law" and Williams is not my cup of tea, either.  And the Jayhawks are another "empire" with history.  

It's gonna hurt Monday night not being able to go to MSG to root for the 'Cats.  

Paul Levinson






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Subject: [NU Sports] Butler


News item: Butler advances to Final Four for second straight year.
News item: Northwestern, for 73rd consecutive season, fails to earn a
id to NCAA tournament.
Discuss.
Who wants to tell me, just to jump start the conversation, that Butler
s recruiting superior athletes?
Or that Butler student-athletes couldn't hack it academically at Northwestern?
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From Jeff.Beamsley at covisint.com  Sat Mar 26 22:58:46 2011
From: Jeff.Beamsley at covisint.com (Beamsley, Jeff)
Date: Sat Mar 26 22:59:10 2011
Subject: [NU Sports] Butler
References: <-5401942507450665236@unknownmsgid>
	<8CDBA3E8586FC19-7C8-1B155@webmail-d076.sysops.aol.com>
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My bracket is in tatters too, so it was a lot of fun to root for Butler.  They are a great story, great coach, and great team with a real blue collar work ethic.
 
Here's some stuff about the school.
 
They accept 72% of the students that apply but only 22% of those accepted actually enroll, which suggests that it might be a safety school for some Indiana kids.  They don't have a stated minimum SAT or ACT score, but looking at the admission data they aren't accepting anyone under 400 on any of the three SAT tests and under 18 on the ACT's.  They have a 55% graduation rate after four years.  Total cost to attend is estimated at $39,786/yr.
 
By comparison, NU accepts 26% of its applicants and 32% of those accepted actually enroll.  The minimum SAT scores are 500, and the minimum ACT is 24.  We're graduating 86% after four years.  Total cost to attend is estimated at $51,850/yr.
 
When you look at their roster, it's clear that Butler is building teams from good athletes who want to play close to home.  They only have three players who come from more than a two hour drive from Indianapolis.  One of those is the Freshman Marshall from Florida who gave the team a spark in the second half.  The senior Vanzant is also from Florida.  The other is Nored who is from Alabama.  
 
In the profiles that I've seen, this is Brad Stevens dream job.  He left a high paying job to coach basketball.  The facilities are nothing special.  The players don't have a high profile on campus.  It's a very hoosiers kind of place and they like it that way.  He was an assistant to Thad Matta and then Todd Lickliter who both left for positions in the Big Ten.
 
Butler is just a good example of what you can accomplish when you recruit strongly in your own state, and it happens to be a state where high school basketball is THE major sport.
 
Jeff


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Read article in NY Times today that Matt Howard has 3.37 at Butler, majoring, if memory serves, in Economics.  He is one of 10 children from working-class family.  A great kid, according to the article.  I could see their Coach pacing sideline at Welsh-Ryan--in my dreams.  No offense, Mr. Carmody, but Brad Stevens--who looks like a geeky "Tech weenie"--could be the man to lead us to the promised land.  Only I don't think that's ever gonna happen.:-(

Yes, Alan.  As usual, you have hit the nail on the proverbial head.

Gotta say that although my "bracket" is in tatters, I was a happy guy today with the wins by Butler and our local entry from the Big Least (as SJT loves to say).   Now if VCU shocks the world, that would be sweet as well.  Not a lot other than them to root for tomorrow, as Kentucky-North Carolina is essentially a battle between two ridiculously successful, arrogant programs.  Calipari is always one step ahead of "the law" and Williams is not my cup of tea, either.  And the Jayhawks are another "empire" with history. 

It's gonna hurt Monday night not being able to go to MSG to root for the 'Cats. 

Paul Levinson






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Sent: Sat, Mar 26, 2011 10:01 pm
Subject: [NU Sports] Butler


News item: Butler advances to Final Four for second straight year.
News item: Northwestern, for 73rd consecutive season, fails to earn a
id to NCAA tournament.
Discuss.
Who wants to tell me, just to jump start the conversation, that Butler
s recruiting superior athletes?
Or that Butler student-athletes couldn't hack it academically at Northwestern?
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From e-west at northwestern.edu  Sat Mar 26 23:33:02 2011
From: e-west at northwestern.edu (Eric West)
Date: Sat Mar 26 23:33:20 2011
Subject: [NU Sports] Butler
In-Reply-To: <-5401942507450665236@unknownmsgid>
References: <-5401942507450665236@unknownmsgid>
Message-ID: <4D8EBDFE.7050607@northwestern.edu>

I remember answering this same question four years ago. Butler is in the 
Horizon League. This year they were also a bubble team (if even that) 
until they won their conference tournament, finally defeating a 
Milwaukee team (remember them?) who had swept the Bulldogs in the 
regular season. Butler's season was actually considered a great 
disappointment until these past two weekends, but the Horizon League 
gave them a much easier road back to the dance. If you are suggesting 
that NU should switch conferences, that would actually be far more 
likely to end the "streak" than firing the most successful coach in 
decades, at the end of the most successful season of men's basketball in 
history. (And no, you haven't technically said he should be fired right 
now, but you have made your overall feelings clear.)

Is Carmody not good with the media? Does he give bad interviews (or not 
enough)? Perhaps there have been too many years of trash talk from 
Syracuse and Missouri alums in the newsroom? I really have to wonder at 
the source of negativity from practically every writer except Teddy 
Greenstein. At least BC has won some postseason games -- unlike, say, 
Pat Fitzgerald, who is also the first NU football coach since Francis 
Peay who didn't win a share of the Big Ten title within four years of 
being hired. If we're going to ask how long it's going to take Bill 
Carmody to achieve something that has never ever been achieved before by 
anybody, why not question Fitz's ability to take us somewhere we've 
already been?

I am not meaning this to be as harsh as it may look over email (and to 
be clear, I would be fine keeping Fitz forever), but I am puzzled at 
where all this is coming from. I don't want to start quoting Linus. :)

Eric West
e-west@northwestern.edu


On 3/26/2011 9:01 PM, Alan Abrahamson wrote:
> News item: Butler advances to Final Four for second straight year.
>
> News item: Northwestern, for 73rd consecutive season, fails to earn a
> bid to NCAA tournament.
>
> Discuss.
>
> Who wants to tell me, just to jump start the conversation, that Butler
> is recruiting superior athletes?
>
> Or that Butler student-athletes couldn't hack it academically at Northwestern?
>

From sportsbiz at gmail.com  Sat Mar 26 23:36:15 2011
From: sportsbiz at gmail.com (Sportsbiz)
Date: Sat Mar 26 23:36:39 2011
Subject: [NU Sports] Butler
In-Reply-To: <8CDBA3E8586FC19-7C8-1B155@webmail-d076.sysops.aol.com>
References: <-5401942507450665236@unknownmsgid>
	<8CDBA3E8586FC19-7C8-1B155@webmail-d076.sysops.aol.com>
Message-ID: <AANLkTik7Bv-nbFwLNWiPRdym+WLiMMbo76UO1q-fOe_S@mail.gmail.com>

Jeff is right about Butler being a very Indiana school that exploits being
in a state where basketball is THE sport.  We shouldn't make too close
comparisons however, because we are in entirely different academic spheres,
as evidenced by Butler's acceptance rate, a number that is on par with
Bradley - a school with which it is often favorably compared.

Since my bracket is shot to hell, I too will root for Butler, as well as
anyone who plays Kentucky.  Paul is right about tomorrow's Kentucky-UNC
game, although having been up close and personal with both schools and their
fans, I would take UNC any day.  Arrogance doesn't begin to define Kentucky
fans or its outlaw coach.

Mark

On Sat, Mar 26, 2011 at 10:33 PM, <neonrye@aol.com> wrote:

>
> Read article in NY Times today that Matt Howard has 3.37 at Butler,
> majoring, if memory serves, in Economics.  He is one of 10 children from
> working-class family.  A great kid, according to the article.  I could see
> their Coach pacing sideline at Welsh-Ryan--in my dreams.  No offense, Mr.
> Carmody, but Brad Stevens--who looks like a geeky "Tech weenie"--could be
> the man to lead us to the promised land.  Only I don't think that's ever
> gonna happen.:-(
>
> Yes, Alan.  As usual, you have hit the nail on the proverbial head.
>
> Gotta say that although my "bracket" is in tatters, I was a happy guy today
> with the wins by Butler and our local entry from the Big Least (as SJT loves
> to say).   Now if VCU shocks the world, that would be sweet as well.  Not a
> lot other than them to root for tomorrow, as Kentucky-North Carolina is
> essentially a battle between two ridiculously successful, arrogant programs.
>  Calipari is always one step ahead of "the law" and Williams is not my cup
> of tea, either.  And the Jayhawks are another "empire" with history.
>
> It's gonna hurt Monday night not being able to go to MSG to root for the
> 'Cats.
>
> Paul Levinson
>
>
>
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Alan Abrahamson <alan.abrahamson@gmail.com>
> To: nwu-sports@tssi.com
> Sent: Sat, Mar 26, 2011 10:01 pm
> Subject: [NU Sports] Butler
>
>
> News item: Butler advances to Final Four for second straight year.
> News item: Northwestern, for 73rd consecutive season, fails to earn a
> id to NCAA tournament.
> Discuss.
> Who wants to tell me, just to jump start the conversation, that Butler
> s recruiting superior athletes?
> Or that Butler student-athletes couldn't hack it academically at
> Northwestern?
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From hakirsch at aol.com  Sun Mar 27 09:32:21 2011
From: hakirsch at aol.com (hakirsch@aol.com)
Date: Sun Mar 27 09:33:41 2011
Subject: [NU Sports] Butler
In-Reply-To: <FA7822545C26F244823CA5D312ABBDEA06BF4FFB@nasa-dtw-ex006.nasa.cpwr.corp>
References: <-5401942507450665236@unknownmsgid><8CDBA3E8586FC19-7C8-1B155@webmail-d076.sysops.aol.com><FA7822545C26F244823CA5D312ABBDEA06BF4FFB@nasa-dtw-ex006.nasa.cpwr.corp>
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This is good research though we probably won't know how much Butler drops the academic  standards for their hoop recruits and would their hoop recruits be able to be admitted at NU ?. If they could get in to NU then we have to ask how we can get some of them. Obviously if they can't get in, then its an unfair comparison to ask why we can't do what Butler does ?

Harry
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Sender: nwu-sports-bounces@tssi.com
Date: Sat, 26 Mar 2011 23:58:46 
To: <neonrye@aol.com>; <alan.abrahamson@gmail.com>; <nwu-sports@tssi.com>
Subject: RE: [NU Sports] Butler

My bracket is in tatters too, so it was a lot of fun to root for Butler.  They are a great story, great coach, and great team with a real blue collar work ethic.
 
Here's some stuff about the school.
 
They accept 72% of the students that apply but only 22% of those accepted actually enroll, which suggests that it might be a safety school for some Indiana kids.  They don't have a stated minimum SAT or ACT score, but looking at the admission data they aren't accepting anyone under 400 on any of the three SAT tests and under 18 on the ACT's.  They have a 55% graduation rate after four years.  Total cost to attend is estimated at $39,786/yr.
 
By comparison, NU accepts 26% of its applicants and 32% of those accepted actually enroll.  The minimum SAT scores are 500, and the minimum ACT is 24.  We're graduating 86% after four years.  Total cost to attend is estimated at $51,850/yr.
 
When you look at their roster, it's clear that Butler is building teams from good athletes who want to play close to home.  They only have three players who come from more than a two hour drive from Indianapolis.  One of those is the Freshman Marshall from Florida who gave the team a spark in the second half.  The senior Vanzant is also from Florida.  The other is Nored who is from Alabama.  
 
In the profiles that I've seen, this is Brad Stevens dream job.  He left a high paying job to coach basketball.  The facilities are nothing special.  The players don't have a high profile on campus.  It's a very hoosiers kind of place and they like it that way.  He was an assistant to Thad Matta and then Todd Lickliter who both left for positions in the Big Ten.
 
Butler is just a good example of what you can accomplish when you recruit strongly in your own state, and it happens to be a state where high school basketball is THE major sport.
 
Jeff


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Read article in NY Times today that Matt Howard has 3.37 at Butler, majoring, if memory serves, in Economics.  He is one of 10 children from working-class family.  A great kid, according to the article.  I could see their Coach pacing sideline at Welsh-Ryan--in my dreams.  No offense, Mr. Carmody, but Brad Stevens--who looks like a geeky "Tech weenie"--could be the man to lead us to the promised land.  Only I don't think that's ever gonna happen.:-(

Yes, Alan.  As usual, you have hit the nail on the proverbial head.

Gotta say that although my "bracket" is in tatters, I was a happy guy today with the wins by Butler and our local entry from the Big Least (as SJT loves to say).   Now if VCU shocks the world, that would be sweet as well.  Not a lot other than them to root for tomorrow, as Kentucky-North Carolina is essentially a battle between two ridiculously successful, arrogant programs.  Calipari is always one step ahead of "the law" and Williams is not my cup of tea, either.  And the Jayhawks are another "empire" with history. 

It's gonna hurt Monday night not being able to go to MSG to root for the 'Cats. 

Paul Levinson






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To: nwu-sports@tssi.com
Sent: Sat, Mar 26, 2011 10:01 pm
Subject: [NU Sports] Butler


News item: Butler advances to Final Four for second straight year.
News item: Northwestern, for 73rd consecutive season, fails to earn a
id to NCAA tournament.
Discuss.
Who wants to tell me, just to jump start the conversation, that Butler
s recruiting superior athletes?
Or that Butler student-athletes couldn't hack it academically at Northwestern?
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From thehaze at earthlink.net  Sun Mar 27 13:58:49 2011
From: thehaze at earthlink.net (Jim Bendat)
Date: Sun Mar 27 13:59:12 2011
Subject: [NU Sports] Not NU-related, but perhaps of interest
Message-ID: <28365372.1301252329754.JavaMail.root@wamui-junio.atl.sa.earthlink.net>

The Gwynn piece was excellent (and hopefully a message for young athletes), but I was also touched by the second segment of the show - the story of an Xavier women's basketball player who missed two easy layups last year in the regional final that would have sent her team to the final four, and how she's still haunted by that missed opportunity. - Jim B.

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>From: "Weinbaum, Willie" <Willie.Weinbaum@espn.com>
>Sent: Mar 25, 2011 6:33 PM
>To: "'nwu-sports@tssi.com'" <nwu-sports@tssi.com>
>Subject: [NU Sports] Not NU-related, but perhaps of interest
>
>The TV piece I worked on most recently - - with Tom Friend - - on Tony Gwynn's cancer ordeal, is to air this Sunday on ESPN's Outside the Lines, 9a E.  If you have the chance to see it, please don't hesitate to get in touch with any feedback.  
>
>Thanks, 
>Willie
>
>
>>From Blackberry - please excuse typos
>
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From alan.abrahamson at gmail.com  Sun Mar 27 14:46:58 2011
From: alan.abrahamson at gmail.com (Alan Abrahamson)
Date: Sun Mar 27 14:47:33 2011
Subject: [NU Sports] Butler
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In response to Eric's questions:

Carmody has had 11 years.

He was hired to get Northwestern to the tournament.

Has he done so?

It's not unreasonable after that many years to ask why, and to ask why not.

And to ask the next question -- if we're going to keep him, why should all
of us who are invested in the program reasonably expect next year be any
better than the preceding 11? To say that we have all been patient would be
-- gentle.

Also, to be hard-headed about it -- if the athletic department is
undertaking a major facilities push, and that means raising mucho dinero, is
Carmody an asset? Just asking.

Again, I have no -- zero -- inside info. I got the same email many of the
rest of you got asking me to take the same survey. That's all I know.

Let's just play what-if for a moment. If Brad Stevens were the Northwestern
coach, do you think we would be waiting 11 years to take Northwestern to the
NCAA tournament?

Twenty wins for the past two seasons -- okay, that's nice. And it is. Those
are benchmarks we have never seen before at NU.

But it is a mark of how pathetic we have been that that's what we're talking
about.

We still aren't even .500 in conference. I mean, and again to quote Rovell,
this has to stop.

As for Fitzgerald, and him being the first Northwestern coach since Francis
Peay to not win a share of the Big Ten title in his first four years -- I
mean, come on. That's hilarious. The Wildcats have been to three straight
bowl games. Dan Persa is one of the most exciting players in college
football. There's enormous momentum around the program, and Michigan just
made a major run at hiring Fitzgerald away.

Do you see anyone making a major run at hiring Carmody away? Let me know
when that happens, okay?




On Sun, Mar 27, 2011 at 7:32 AM, <hakirsch@aol.com> wrote:

> This is good research though we probably won't know how much Butler drops
> the academic  standards for their hoop recruits and would their hoop
> recruits be able to be admitted at NU ?. If they could get in to NU then we
> have to ask how we can get some of them. Obviously if they can't get in,
> then its an unfair comparison to ask why we can't do what Butler does ?
>
> Harry
> Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: "Beamsley, Jeff" <Jeff.Beamsley@covisint.com>
> Sender: nwu-sports-bounces@tssi.com
> Date: Sat, 26 Mar 2011 23:58:46
> To: <neonrye@aol.com>; <alan.abrahamson@gmail.com>; <nwu-sports@tssi.com>
> Subject: RE: [NU Sports] Butler
>
> My bracket is in tatters too, so it was a lot of fun to root for Butler.
>  They are a great story, great coach, and great team with a real blue collar
> work ethic.
>
> Here's some stuff about the school.
>
> They accept 72% of the students that apply but only 22% of those accepted
> actually enroll, which suggests that it might be a safety school for some
> Indiana kids.  They don't have a stated minimum SAT or ACT score, but
> looking at the admission data they aren't accepting anyone under 400 on any
> of the three SAT tests and under 18 on the ACT's.  They have a 55%
> graduation rate after four years.  Total cost to attend is estimated at
> $39,786/yr.
>
> By comparison, NU accepts 26% of its applicants and 32% of those accepted
> actually enroll.  The minimum SAT scores are 500, and the minimum ACT is 24.
>  We're graduating 86% after four years.  Total cost to attend is estimated
> at $51,850/yr.
>
> When you look at their roster, it's clear that Butler is building teams
> from good athletes who want to play close to home.  They only have three
> players who come from more than a two hour drive from Indianapolis.  One of
> those is the Freshman Marshall from Florida who gave the team a spark in the
> second half.  The senior Vanzant is also from Florida.  The other is Nored
> who is from Alabama.
>
> In the profiles that I've seen, this is Brad Stevens dream job.  He left a
> high paying job to coach basketball.  The facilities are nothing special.
>  The players don't have a high profile on campus.  It's a very hoosiers kind
> of place and they like it that way.  He was an assistant to Thad Matta and
> then Todd Lickliter who both left for positions in the Big Ten.
>
> Butler is just a good example of what you can accomplish when you recruit
> strongly in your own state, and it happens to be a state where high school
> basketball is THE major sport.
>
> Jeff
>
>
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> From: nwu-sports-bounces@tssi.com on behalf of neonrye@aol.com
> Sent: Sat 3/26/2011 10:33 PM
> To: alan.abrahamson@gmail.com; nwu-sports@tssi.com
> Subject: Re: [NU Sports] Butler
>
>
>
>
> Read article in NY Times today that Matt Howard has 3.37 at Butler,
> majoring, if memory serves, in Economics.  He is one of 10 children from
> working-class family.  A great kid, according to the article.  I could see
> their Coach pacing sideline at Welsh-Ryan--in my dreams.  No offense, Mr.
> Carmody, but Brad Stevens--who looks like a geeky "Tech weenie"--could be
> the man to lead us to the promised land.  Only I don't think that's ever
> gonna happen.:-(
>
> Yes, Alan.  As usual, you have hit the nail on the proverbial head.
>
> Gotta say that although my "bracket" is in tatters, I was a happy guy today
> with the wins by Butler and our local entry from the Big Least (as SJT loves
> to say).   Now if VCU shocks the world, that would be sweet as well.  Not a
> lot other than them to root for tomorrow, as Kentucky-North Carolina is
> essentially a battle between two ridiculously successful, arrogant programs.
>  Calipari is always one step ahead of "the law" and Williams is not my cup
> of tea, either.  And the Jayhawks are another "empire" with history.
>
> It's gonna hurt Monday night not being able to go to MSG to root for the
> 'Cats.
>
> Paul Levinson
>
>
>
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Alan Abrahamson <alan.abrahamson@gmail.com>
> To: nwu-sports@tssi.com
> Sent: Sat, Mar 26, 2011 10:01 pm
> Subject: [NU Sports] Butler
>
>
> News item: Butler advances to Final Four for second straight year.
> News item: Northwestern, for 73rd consecutive season, fails to earn a
> id to NCAA tournament.
> Discuss.
> Who wants to tell me, just to jump start the conversation, that Butler
> s recruiting superior athletes?
> Or that Butler student-athletes couldn't hack it academically at
> Northwestern?
> Sent from my iPhone
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From sjtruog at yahoo.com  Sun Mar 27 15:36:33 2011
From: sjtruog at yahoo.com (SjT (Stephen J. Truog))
Date: Sun Mar 27 15:36:50 2011
Subject: [NU Sports] Forget all the analysis ...
Message-ID: <569284.25057.qm@web121705.mail.ne1.yahoo.com>

Let's just find some alumni with very deep pockets who can donate to the "Hire Coach Stevens" fund:) ... or the "Hire Coach Smart" fund from VCU.

I guess at least the Big Ten's big three teams can take pride in who they lost to this year in the tourney, with Purdue and Wisconsin going down to a pair of Final Four cinderellas who are on amazing runs and dOSU dropping one to Calipari State in what was clearly the most stacked region (i.e. the opposite of the Duke region every year :) ). Now if only there were a way for both the hated Heels and Calipari State's one-and-done crew of "student" athletes to lose, it might be an enjoyable Final Four.

GO CATS!!!
-SjT

* * * * * * * * *
STEPHEN J. TRUOG
sjtruog@yahoo.com
GO CATS!!! GEAUX SAINTS!!!
Super Bowl XLIV Champions!
==========================


      

From neonrye at aol.com  Sun Mar 27 15:57:39 2011
From: neonrye at aol.com (neonrye@aol.com)
Date: Sun Mar 27 15:58:29 2011
Subject: [NU Sports] Forget all the analysis ...
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Well said.  My sentiments entirely.
Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry

-----Original Message-----
From: "SjT \(Stephen J. Truog\)" <sjtruog@yahoo.com>
Sender: nwu-sports-bounces@tssi.com
Date: Sun, 27 Mar 2011 13:36:33 
To: NUSPORTS<nwu-sports@tssi.com>
Subject: [NU Sports] Forget all the analysis ...

Let's just find some alumni with very deep pockets who can donate to the "Hire Coach Stevens" fund:) ... or the "Hire Coach Smart" fund from VCU.

I guess at least the Big Ten's big three teams can take pride in who they lost to this year in the tourney, with Purdue and Wisconsin going down to a pair of Final Four cinderellas who are on amazing runs and dOSU dropping one to Calipari State in what was clearly the most stacked region (i.e. the opposite of the Duke region every year :) ). Now if only there were a way for both the hated Heels and Calipari State's one-and-done crew of "student" athletes to lose, it might be an enjoyable Final Four.

GO CATS!!!
-SjT

* * * * * * * * *
STEPHEN J. TRUOG
sjtruog@yahoo.com
GO CATS!!! GEAUX SAINTS!!!
Super Bowl XLIV Champions!
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From hakirsch at aol.com  Sun Mar 27 17:09:53 2011
From: hakirsch at aol.com (hakirsch@aol.com)
Date: Sun Mar 27 17:10:14 2011
Subject: [NU Sports] Forget all the analysis ...
In-Reply-To: <569284.25057.qm@web121705.mail.ne1.yahoo.com>
References: <569284.25057.qm@web121705.mail.ne1.yahoo.com>
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Doesn't Calipari remind you a bit of Tark ? 
Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry

-----Original Message-----
From: "SjT \(Stephen J. Truog\)" <sjtruog@yahoo.com>
Sender: nwu-sports-bounces@tssi.com
Date: Sun, 27 Mar 2011 13:36:33 
To: NUSPORTS<nwu-sports@tssi.com>
Subject: [NU Sports] Forget all the analysis ...

Let's just find some alumni with very deep pockets who can donate to the "Hire Coach Stevens" fund:) ... or the "Hire Coach Smart" fund from VCU.

I guess at least the Big Ten's big three teams can take pride in who they lost to this year in the tourney, with Purdue and Wisconsin going down to a pair of Final Four cinderellas who are on amazing runs and dOSU dropping one to Calipari State in what was clearly the most stacked region (i.e. the opposite of the Duke region every year :) ). Now if only there were a way for both the hated Heels and Calipari State's one-and-done crew of "student" athletes to lose, it might be an enjoyable Final Four.

GO CATS!!!
-SjT

* * * * * * * * *
STEPHEN J. TRUOG
sjtruog@yahoo.com
GO CATS!!! GEAUX SAINTS!!!
Super Bowl XLIV Champions!
==========================


      

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From e-west at northwestern.edu  Sun Mar 27 17:22:18 2011
From: e-west at northwestern.edu (Eric West)
Date: Sun Mar 27 17:22:26 2011
Subject: [NU Sports] Butler
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I will answer your questions, even though you did not quite answer mine. 
[Caveat: everything always looks ruder over the internet, but please 
believe I intend no rudeness in my arguments.]

On 3/27/2011 2:46 PM, Alan Abrahamson wrote:
> Carmody has had 11 years.
> He was hired to get Northwestern to the tournament.
> Has he done so?

I would put it to you that he was hired to coach the basketball team, 
but I must concede he has not got NU to the NCAA tournament (yet).

> It's not unreasonable after that many years to ask why, and to ask why 
> not.

But it is not exactly reasonable to ignore the obvious answer why not: 
the combination of our history and our membership in one of the toughest 
conferences in the nation makes it a prohibitively and unprecedentedly 
difficult task. This would be true no matter who was coaching our team.

> And to ask the next question -- if we're going to keep him, why should 
> all of us who are invested in the program reasonably expect next year 
> be any better than the preceding 11? To say that we have all been 
> patient would be -- gentle.

The biggest reason is that *this* year was better than the preceding 10. 
As for patience, I submit that we have tried the "fire after 4-5 
seasons" approach, and we have also tried the "keep for 11+ years" 
approach. Which approach has led us to more success? Why go back to a 
system that has led us to significantly less success? I've asked these 
questions on this list before; I have yet to see an answer to them.

> Also, to be hard-headed about it -- if the athletic department is 
> undertaking a major facilities push, and that means raising mucho 
> dinero, is Carmody an asset? Just asking.

Why wouldn't he be? Most national, non-alum media coverage I've heard 
about NU men's basketball (granted, not a large sample) is that they're 
doing better than ever before, and Carmody is a main part of that. So 
why wouldn't he be viewed as an asset? You say you have no inside 
information, but there must be a reason why you ask that question.

> Let's just play what-if for a moment. If Brad Stevens were the 
> Northwestern coach, do you think we would be waiting 11 years to take 
> Northwestern to the NCAA tournament?

If we hired him today? Perhaps not. But that's primarily because we're 
in a much better place than in 2000, thanks to Carmody. You simply can't 
ask that question in a vacuum. If Stevens had been hired back then and 
brought the same level of improvement, we might well have kept him the 
same amount of time. Certainly, no hard evidence exists to suggest 
otherwise.

As for the Fitz analogy, of course it's ludicrous. I was pointing out 
the flaw in the simplistic "he hasn't done what he was hired to do" 
approach that completely ignores the entire picture.

Bottom line: the "how long" question can't be answered. It couldn't be 
answered three years ago, and it can't be answered today. I can't prove 
that it "should" take 18 years to get unprecedented results, and you 
can't prove that it "should" take only 5 or 6. There is simply no 
concrete data out there to support any number, because the story of NU 
is just that unique. The only concrete data right now is that we are 
closer than ever. To me, that makes a much stronger point than an 
unanswerable "how long" question, or a comparison to a school in such a 
different situation that it defies comparison.

[Sidenote to Stephen: if we could find alumni with very deep pockets who 
wanted to help the basketball program, I'd guess there are plenty of 
ways that money could be spent that might be more effective than hiring 
the latest "It"-Coach. But if that money could only be spent as a 
package deal, that might be the best reason to lose Carmody I've yet 
seen. It's a big if, though.]

Eric West
e-west@northwestern.edu

From scottzel at gmail.com  Sun Mar 27 18:18:06 2011
From: scottzel at gmail.com (Scott Zeller, M.D.)
Date: Sun Mar 27 18:18:08 2011
Subject: [NU Sports] good news from the point
Message-ID: <AANLkTi=hrdjp8Y1LVpzraKUV8CyXb4ph3PirrfzRsWop@mail.gmail.com>

One of NU's two incoming point guards, David Sobolewski, is one of five
finalists for the title of Illinois' "Mr. Basketball." The other finalists
are committed to UConn, Kentucky, Louisville and Stanford.

The Chicago Tribune called him "the best pure point guard in the state."
From alan.abrahamson at gmail.com  Sun Mar 27 18:37:17 2011
From: alan.abrahamson at gmail.com (Alan Abrahamson)
Date: Sun Mar 27 18:37:52 2011
Subject: [NU Sports] Butler
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No rudeness of any sort received here, Eric. Just the opposite. I appreciate
your point of view.

Obviously, we disagree, and that's fine. My aim in writing was to provoke
discussion, as I said at the outset.

Let me -- again -- stress just one thing. I do not have any inside
information ...


On Sun, Mar 27, 2011 at 3:22 PM, Eric West <e-west@northwestern.edu> wrote:

> I will answer your questions, even though you did not quite answer mine.
> [Caveat: everything always looks ruder over the internet, but please believe
> I intend no rudeness in my arguments.]
>
>
> On 3/27/2011 2:46 PM, Alan Abrahamson wrote:
>
>> Carmody has had 11 years.
>> He was hired to get Northwestern to the tournament.
>> Has he done so?
>>
>
> I would put it to you that he was hired to coach the basketball team, but I
> must concede he has not got NU to the NCAA tournament (yet).
>
>
>  It's not unreasonable after that many years to ask why, and to ask why
>> not.
>>
>
> But it is not exactly reasonable to ignore the obvious answer why not: the
> combination of our history and our membership in one of the toughest
> conferences in the nation makes it a prohibitively and unprecedentedly
> difficult task. This would be true no matter who was coaching our team.
>
>
>  And to ask the next question -- if we're going to keep him, why should all
>> of us who are invested in the program reasonably expect next year be any
>> better than the preceding 11? To say that we have all been patient would be
>> -- gentle.
>>
>
> The biggest reason is that *this* year was better than the preceding 10. As
> for patience, I submit that we have tried the "fire after 4-5 seasons"
> approach, and we have also tried the "keep for 11+ years" approach. Which
> approach has led us to more success? Why go back to a system that has led us
> to significantly less success? I've asked these questions on this list
> before; I have yet to see an answer to them.
>
>
>  Also, to be hard-headed about it -- if the athletic department is
>> undertaking a major facilities push, and that means raising mucho dinero, is
>> Carmody an asset? Just asking.
>>
>
> Why wouldn't he be? Most national, non-alum media coverage I've heard about
> NU men's basketball (granted, not a large sample) is that they're doing
> better than ever before, and Carmody is a main part of that. So why wouldn't
> he be viewed as an asset? You say you have no inside information, but there
> must be a reason why you ask that question.
>
>
>  Let's just play what-if for a moment. If Brad Stevens were the
>> Northwestern coach, do you think we would be waiting 11 years to take
>> Northwestern to the NCAA tournament?
>>
>
> If we hired him today? Perhaps not. But that's primarily because we're in a
> much better place than in 2000, thanks to Carmody. You simply can't ask that
> question in a vacuum. If Stevens had been hired back then and brought the
> same level of improvement, we might well have kept him the same amount of
> time. Certainly, no hard evidence exists to suggest otherwise.
>
> As for the Fitz analogy, of course it's ludicrous. I was pointing out the
> flaw in the simplistic "he hasn't done what he was hired to do" approach
> that completely ignores the entire picture.
>
> Bottom line: the "how long" question can't be answered. It couldn't be
> answered three years ago, and it can't be answered today. I can't prove that
> it "should" take 18 years to get unprecedented results, and you can't prove
> that it "should" take only 5 or 6. There is simply no concrete data out
> there to support any number, because the story of NU is just that unique.
> The only concrete data right now is that we are closer than ever. To me,
> that makes a much stronger point than an unanswerable "how long" question,
> or a comparison to a school in such a different situation that it defies
> comparison.
>
> [Sidenote to Stephen: if we could find alumni with very deep pockets who
> wanted to help the basketball program, I'd guess there are plenty of ways
> that money could be spent that might be more effective than hiring the
> latest "It"-Coach. But if that money could only be spent as a package deal,
> that might be the best reason to lose Carmody I've yet seen. It's a big if,
> though.]
>
>
> Eric West
> e-west@northwestern.edu
>
> _______________________________________________
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> nwu-sports@tssi.com
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From eschoeman at sbcglobal.net  Sun Mar 27 18:37:55 2011
From: eschoeman at sbcglobal.net (Evans Schoeman)
Date: Sun Mar 27 18:38:11 2011
Subject: [NU Sports] Forget all the analysis ...
In-Reply-To: <437852835-1301263798-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-1231089512-@bda2184.bisx.prod.on.blackberry>
References: <569284.25057.qm@web121705.mail.ne1.yahoo.com>
	<437852835-1301263798-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-1231089512-@bda2184.bisx.prod.on.blackberry>
Message-ID: <501782.5096.qm@web83911.mail.sp1.yahoo.com>

Careful...Tark's granddaughter is on the NU women's basketball team.





________________________________
From: "hakirsch@aol.com" <hakirsch@aol.com>
To: SjT (Stephen J. Truog) <sjtruog@yahoo.com>; nwu-sports-bounces@tssi.com; 
NUSPORTS <nwu-sports@tssi.com>
Sent: Sun, March 27, 2011 5:09:53 PM
Subject: Re: [NU Sports] Forget all the analysis ...

Doesn't Calipari remind you a bit of Tark ? 
Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry

-----Original Message-----
From: "SjT \(Stephen J. Truog\)" <sjtruog@yahoo.com>
Sender: nwu-sports-bounces@tssi.com
Date: Sun, 27 Mar 2011 13:36:33 
To: NUSPORTS<nwu-sports@tssi.com>
Subject: [NU Sports] Forget all the analysis ...

Let's just find some alumni with very deep pockets who can donate to the "Hire 
Coach Stevens" fund:) ... or the "Hire Coach Smart" fund from VCU.

I guess at least the Big Ten's big three teams can take pride in who they lost 
to this year in the tourney, with Purdue and Wisconsin going down to a pair of 
Final Four cinderellas who are on amazing runs and dOSU dropping one to Calipari 
State in what was clearly the most stacked region (i.e. the opposite of the Duke 
region every year :) ). Now if only there were a way for both the hated Heels 
and Calipari State's one-and-done crew of "student" athletes to lose, it might 
be an enjoyable Final Four.

GO CATS!!!
-SjT

* * * * * * * * *
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sjtruog@yahoo.com
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From gijazz at gmail.com  Sun Mar 27 18:43:52 2011
From: gijazz at gmail.com (Michael Cohen)
Date: Sun Mar 27 18:44:03 2011
Subject: [NU Sports] good news from the point
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I suspect he'll lose in overtime!

Michael Cohen


On Mar 27, 2011, at 6:18 PM, "Scott Zeller, M.D." <scottzel@gmail.com> wrote:

> One of NU's two incoming point guards, David Sobolewski, is one of five
> finalists for the title of Illinois' "Mr. Basketball." The other finalists
> are committed to UConn, Kentucky, Louisville and Stanford.
> 
> The Chicago Tribune called him "the best pure point guard in the state."
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From hakirsch at aol.com  Sun Mar 27 19:06:13 2011
From: hakirsch at aol.com (hakirsch@aol.com)
Date: Sun Mar 27 19:06:35 2011
Subject: [NU Sports] Forget all the analysis ...
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Hmmm.  Wonder if Tark had any influence in her attending NU. He probably shuddered at the thought of her going to a clean program.  Just ask his son Danny who was his point guard in the late 80's

Harry
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Date: Sun, 27 Mar 2011 16:37:55 
To: <hakirsch@aol.com>; SjT \(Stephen J. Truog\)<sjtruog@yahoo.com>; <nwu-sports-bounces@tssi.com>; NUSPORTS<nwu-sports@tssi.com>
Subject: Re: [NU Sports] Forget all the analysis ...

Careful...Tark's granddaughter is on the NU women's basketball team.





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Doesn't Calipari remind you a bit of Tark ? 
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Subject: [NU Sports] Forget all the analysis ...

Let's just find some alumni with very deep pockets who can donate to the "Hire 
Coach Stevens" fund:) ... or the "Hire Coach Smart" fund from VCU.

I guess at least the Big Ten's big three teams can take pride in who they lost 
to this year in the tourney, with Purdue and Wisconsin going down to a pair of 
Final Four cinderellas who are on amazing runs and dOSU dropping one to Calipari 
State in what was clearly the most stacked region (i.e. the opposite of the Duke 
region every year :) ). Now if only there were a way for both the hated Heels 
and Calipari State's one-and-done crew of "student" athletes to lose, it might 
be an enjoyable Final Four.

GO CATS!!!
-SjT

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From yevb0 at alumni.northwestern.edu  Sun Mar 27 20:10:19 2011
From: yevb0 at alumni.northwestern.edu (Evan Bradley)
Date: Sun Mar 27 20:10:54 2011
Subject: [NU Sports] Butler
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> Again, I have no -- zero -- inside info. I got the same email many of the
> rest of you got asking me to take the same survey. That's all I know.

for those of us on this list not fortunate enough to be on that one,
would someone mind reposting this?

On Sun, Mar 27, 2011 at 3:46 PM, Alan Abrahamson
<alan.abrahamson@gmail.com> wrote:
> In response to Eric's questions:
>
> Carmody has had 11 years.
>
> He was hired to get Northwestern to the tournament.
>
> Has he done so?
>
> It's not unreasonable after that many years to ask why, and to ask why not.
>
> And to ask the next question -- if we're going to keep him, why should all
> of us who are invested in the program reasonably expect next year be any
> better than the preceding 11? To say that we have all been patient would be
> -- gentle.
>
> Also, to be hard-headed about it -- if the athletic department is
> undertaking a major facilities push, and that means raising mucho dinero, is
> Carmody an asset? Just asking.
>
> Again, I have no -- zero -- inside info. I got the same email many of the
> rest of you got asking me to take the same survey. That's all I know.
>
> Let's just play what-if for a moment. If Brad Stevens were the Northwestern
> coach, do you think we would be waiting 11 years to take Northwestern to the
> NCAA tournament?
>
> Twenty wins for the past two seasons -- okay, that's nice. And it is. Those
> are benchmarks we have never seen before at NU.
>
> But it is a mark of how pathetic we have been that that's what we're talking
> about.
>
> We still aren't even .500 in conference. I mean, and again to quote Rovell,
> this has to stop.
>
> As for Fitzgerald, and him being the first Northwestern coach since Francis
> Peay to not win a share of the Big Ten title in his first four years -- I
> mean, come on. That's hilarious. The Wildcats have been to three straight
> bowl games. Dan Persa is one of the most exciting players in college
> football. There's enormous momentum around the program, and Michigan just
> made a major run at hiring Fitzgerald away.
>
> Do you see anyone making a major run at hiring Carmody away? Let me know
> when that happens, okay?
>
>
>
>
> On Sun, Mar 27, 2011 at 7:32 AM, <hakirsch@aol.com> wrote:
>
>> This is good research though we probably won't know how much Butler drops
>> the academic ?standards for their hoop recruits and would their hoop
>> recruits be able to be admitted at NU ?. If they could get in to NU then we
>> have to ask how we can get some of them. Obviously if they can't get in,
>> then its an unfair comparison to ask why we can't do what Butler does ?
>>
>> Harry
>> Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: "Beamsley, Jeff" <Jeff.Beamsley@covisint.com>
>> Sender: nwu-sports-bounces@tssi.com
>> Date: Sat, 26 Mar 2011 23:58:46
>> To: <neonrye@aol.com>; <alan.abrahamson@gmail.com>; <nwu-sports@tssi.com>
>> Subject: RE: [NU Sports] Butler
>>
>> My bracket is in tatters too, so it was a lot of fun to root for Butler.
>> ?They are a great story, great coach, and great team with a real blue collar
>> work ethic.
>>
>> Here's some stuff about the school.
>>
>> They accept 72% of the students that apply but only 22% of those accepted
>> actually enroll, which suggests that it might be a safety school for some
>> Indiana kids. ?They don't have a stated minimum SAT or ACT score, but
>> looking at the admission data they aren't accepting anyone under 400 on any
>> of the three SAT tests and under 18 on the ACT's. ?They have a 55%
>> graduation rate after four years. ?Total cost to attend is estimated at
>> $39,786/yr.
>>
>> By comparison, NU accepts 26% of its applicants and 32% of those accepted
>> actually enroll. ?The minimum SAT scores are 500, and the minimum ACT is 24.
>> ?We're graduating 86% after four years. ?Total cost to attend is estimated
>> at $51,850/yr.
>>
>> When you look at their roster, it's clear that Butler is building teams
>> from good athletes who want to play close to home. ?They only have three
>> players who come from more than a two hour drive from Indianapolis. ?One of
>> those is the Freshman Marshall from Florida who gave the team a spark in the
>> second half. ?The senior Vanzant is also from Florida. ?The other is Nored
>> who is from Alabama.
>>
>> In the profiles that I've seen, this is Brad Stevens dream job. ?He left a
>> high paying job to coach basketball. ?The facilities are nothing special.
>> ?The players don't have a high profile on campus. ?It's a very hoosiers kind
>> of place and they like it that way. ?He was an assistant to Thad Matta and
>> then Todd Lickliter who both left for positions in the Big Ten.
>>
>> Butler is just a good example of what you can accomplish when you recruit
>> strongly in your own state, and it happens to be a state where high school
>> basketball is THE major sport.
>>
>> Jeff
>>
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>>
>> From: nwu-sports-bounces@tssi.com on behalf of neonrye@aol.com
>> Sent: Sat 3/26/2011 10:33 PM
>> To: alan.abrahamson@gmail.com; nwu-sports@tssi.com
>> Subject: Re: [NU Sports] Butler
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Read article in NY Times today that Matt Howard has 3.37 at Butler,
>> majoring, if memory serves, in Economics. ?He is one of 10 children from
>> working-class family. ?A great kid, according to the article. ?I could see
>> their Coach pacing sideline at Welsh-Ryan--in my dreams. ?No offense, Mr.
>> Carmody, but Brad Stevens--who looks like a geeky "Tech weenie"--could be
>> the man to lead us to the promised land. ?Only I don't think that's ever
>> gonna happen.:-(
>>
>> Yes, Alan. ?As usual, you have hit the nail on the proverbial head.
>>
>> Gotta say that although my "bracket" is in tatters, I was a happy guy today
>> with the wins by Butler and our local entry from the Big Least (as SJT loves
>> to say). ? Now if VCU shocks the world, that would be sweet as well. ?Not a
>> lot other than them to root for tomorrow, as Kentucky-North Carolina is
>> essentially a battle between two ridiculously successful, arrogant programs.
>> ?Calipari is always one step ahead of "the law" and Williams is not my cup
>> of tea, either. ?And the Jayhawks are another "empire" with history.
>>
>> It's gonna hurt Monday night not being able to go to MSG to root for the
>> 'Cats.
>>
>> Paul Levinson
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Alan Abrahamson <alan.abrahamson@gmail.com>
>> To: nwu-sports@tssi.com
>> Sent: Sat, Mar 26, 2011 10:01 pm
>> Subject: [NU Sports] Butler
>>
>>
>> News item: Butler advances to Final Four for second straight year.
>> News item: Northwestern, for 73rd consecutive season, fails to earn a
>> id to NCAA tournament.
>> Discuss.
>> Who wants to tell me, just to jump start the conversation, that Butler
>> s recruiting superior athletes?
>> Or that Butler student-athletes couldn't hack it academically at
>> Northwestern?
>> Sent from my iPhone
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From sportsbiz at gmail.com  Sun Mar 27 20:17:10 2011
From: sportsbiz at gmail.com (Sportsbiz)
Date: Sun Mar 27 20:17:35 2011
Subject: [NU Sports] good news from the point
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Well, at least two of those, the ones committed to Kentucky and Louisville
and rated top 5 in the nation and are McDonalds All-Americans, so......

On Sun, Mar 27, 2011 at 7:18 PM, Scott Zeller, M.D. <scottzel@gmail.com>wrote:

> One of NU's two incoming point guards, David Sobolewski, is one of five
> finalists for the title of Illinois' "Mr. Basketball." The other finalists
> are committed to UConn, Kentucky, Louisville and Stanford.
>
> The Chicago Tribune called him "the best pure point guard in the state."
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From wildelk2 at aol.com  Sun Mar 27 20:27:13 2011
From: wildelk2 at aol.com (wildelk2@aol.com)
Date: Sun Mar 27 20:27:26 2011
Subject: [NU Sports] good news from the point
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   Good work Scott.  I hear NU's other recruit Tre Demps is highly thought of.  To steal one from Dennis,  now we need to recruit Evan Eschmeyer, re-name him Mo Swartz and the Big Ten title will be ours.


    GO CATS        Eric





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Well, at least two of those, the ones committed to Kentucky and Louisville
and rated top 5 in the nation and are McDonalds All-Americans, so......

On Sun, Mar 27, 2011 at 7:18 PM, Scott Zeller, M.D. <scottzel@gmail.com>wrote:

> One of NU's two incoming point guards, David Sobolewski, is one of five
> finalists for the title of Illinois' "Mr. Basketball." The other finalists
> are committed to UConn, Kentucky, Louisville and Stanford.
>
> The Chicago Tribune called him "the best pure point guard in the state."
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From Willie.Weinbaum at espn.com  Sun Mar 27 20:42:25 2011
From: Willie.Weinbaum at espn.com (Weinbaum, Willie)
Date: Sun Mar 27 20:43:45 2011
Subject: [NU Sports] Not NU-related, but perhaps of interest
In-Reply-To: <28365372.1301252329754.JavaMail.root@wamui-junio.atl.sa.earthlink.net>
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Thanks very much, Jim...the TV presentations of both stories are now posted online:

Tony Gwynn feature
http://espn.go.com/video/clip?id=6251067&categoryid=3286128

Dee Dee Jernigan
http://espn.go.com/video/clip?id=6257692&categoryid=3286128

-----Original Message-----
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The Gwynn piece was excellent (and hopefully a message for young athletes), but I was also touched by the second segment of the show - the story of an Xavier women's basketball player who missed two easy layups last year in the regional final that would have sent her team to the final four, and how she's still haunted by that missed opportunity. - Jim B.

-----Original Message-----
>From: "Weinbaum, Willie" <Willie.Weinbaum@espn.com>
>Sent: Mar 25, 2011 6:33 PM
>To: "'nwu-sports@tssi.com'" <nwu-sports@tssi.com>
>Subject: [NU Sports] Not NU-related, but perhaps of interest
>
>The TV piece I worked on most recently - - with Tom Friend - - on Tony Gwynn's cancer ordeal, is to air this Sunday on ESPN's Outside the Lines, 9a E.  If you have the chance to see it, please don't hesitate to get in touch with any feedback.
>
>Thanks,
>Willie
>
>
>>From Blackberry - please excuse typos
>
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From hakirsch at aol.com  Sun Mar 27 22:48:25 2011
From: hakirsch at aol.com (hakirsch@aol.com)
Date: Sun Mar 27 22:48:47 2011
Subject: [NU Sports] good news from the point
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About 25 years ago we got a  Mr Indiana in Jeff Gross. He didn't pan out as anything special, though glad we had him.  

I'm not trying to throw cold water on our recruits ,just reminding us that some of these guys don't always work out as advertised

Hoping I'm wrong,

Harry






 


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   Good work Scott.  I hear NU's other recruit Tre Demps is highly thought of.  To steal one from Dennis,  now we need to recruit Evan Eschmeyer, re-name him Mo Swartz and the Big Ten title will be ours.


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Well, at least two of those, the ones committed to Kentucky and Louisville
and rated top 5 in the nation and are McDonalds All-Americans, so......

On Sun, Mar 27, 2011 at 7:18 PM, Scott Zeller, M.D. <scottzel@gmail.com>wrote:

> One of NU's two incoming point guards, David Sobolewski, is one of five
> finalists for the title of Illinois' "Mr. Basketball." The other finalists
> are committed to UConn, Kentucky, Louisville and Stanford.
>
> The Chicago Tribune called him "the best pure point guard in the state."
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From tbng at comcast.net  Mon Mar 28 02:17:48 2011
From: tbng at comcast.net (Dennis W. Brandt)
Date: Mon Mar 28 02:17:53 2011
Subject: [NU Sports] good news from the point
References: <AANLkTi=hrdjp8Y1LVpzraKUV8CyXb4ph3PirrfzRsWop@mail.gmail.com><AANLkTinSpf_Wy9hmwMB+zJPE7Ps2jVpE4U2RyVLU32Vd@mail.gmail.com>
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<To steal one from Dennis,  now we need to recruit Evan Eschmeyer, re-name 
him Mo Swartz and the Big Ten title will be ours.

I'm quoted and there's no footnote?  I demand to see your bibliography!

On the subject of "Whateverstateitis's Mr. Basketball," I recall that during 
my tenure at NU - aka the Neolithic Period - we recruited a Mr. Indiana or 
at least a guy who had been a candidate for the title.  (No NU player is 
listed in the Mr. Indiana Wikipedia article I checked, but I can remember 
fans .)  His name totally escapes me at this dawn of a new epoch.  There is 
no NU player listed the Mr. Indiana Wikipedia article I checked, but I can 
clearly remember fans getting on our "Mr. Indiana" for not playing up to his 
hype.  (Jim Sarno, perhaps?) 

From Willie.Weinbaum at espn.com  Mon Mar 28 05:50:49 2011
From: Willie.Weinbaum at espn.com (Weinbaum, Willie)
Date: Mon Mar 28 05:52:19 2011
Subject: [NU Sports] good news from the point
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If memory serves, Grose was a long-range sharpshooter who had 1,000+ points for NU and whose game would've been especially effective on a strong team, but the Cats were overmatched nearly all of the time.  

>From Blackberry - please excuse typos

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About 25 years ago we got a  Mr Indiana in Jeff Gross. He didn't pan out as anything special, though glad we had him.

I'm not trying to throw cold water on our recruits ,just reminding us that some of these guys don't always work out as advertised

Hoping I'm wrong,

Harry









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   Good work Scott.  I hear NU's other recruit Tre Demps is highly thought of.  To steal one from Dennis,  now we need to recruit Evan Eschmeyer, re-name him Mo Swartz and the Big Ten title will be ours.


    GO CATS        Eric





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Well, at least two of those, the ones committed to Kentucky and Louisville
and rated top 5 in the nation and are McDonalds All-Americans, so......

On Sun, Mar 27, 2011 at 7:18 PM, Scott Zeller, M.D. <scottzel@gmail.com>wrote:

> One of NU's two incoming point guards, David Sobolewski, is one of five
> finalists for the title of Illinois' "Mr. Basketball." The other finalists
> are committed to UConn, Kentucky, Louisville and Stanford.
>
> The Chicago Tribune called him "the best pure point guard in the state."
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From michael.vance at att.net  Mon Mar 28 06:29:15 2011
From: michael.vance at att.net (Michael Vance)
Date: Mon Mar 28 06:29:46 2011
Subject: [NU Sports] good news from the point
In-Reply-To: <1F89BB2CE7A5B94D969618E8CC769CC36874B692@XCHGBRS4.corp.espn.pvt>
References: <1F89BB2CE7A5B94D969618E8CC769CC36874B692@XCHGBRS4.corp.espn.pvt>
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You memory serves correctly, Willie. Grose was the starting point guard in the Morris/Lambiotte years. He was one of the better players on the team and scored 1,052 in his career. That leaves him ranked somewhere in the 20s on the school all-time list. Not spectacular, but solid. 

Some "Where is he now" links:
http://www.warsawcity.net/directory.aspx?EID=4
http://www.indy.com/posts/grose-leads-silver-anniversary-class

-Michael
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On Mar 28, 2011, at 6:50 AM, "Weinbaum, Willie" <Willie.Weinbaum@espn.com> wrote:

> If memory serves, Grose was a long-range sharpshooter who had 1,000+ points for NU and whose game would've been especially effective on a strong team, but the Cats were overmatched nearly all of the time.  
> 
>> From Blackberry - please excuse typos
> 
> W. Weinbaum
> Producer
> 212-916-9864 (24-hour voicemail)
> willie.weinbaum@espn.com
> 
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> Sent: Sun Mar 27 23:48:25 2011
> Subject: Re: [NU Sports] good news from the point
> 
> About 25 years ago we got a  Mr Indiana in Jeff Gross. He didn't pan out as anything special, though glad we had him.
> 
> I'm not trying to throw cold water on our recruits ,just reminding us that some of these guys don't always work out as advertised
> 
> Hoping I'm wrong,
> 
> Harry
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry
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> Sender: nwu-sports-bounces@tssi.com
> Date: Sun, 27 Mar 2011 21:27:13
> To: <sportsbiz@gmail.com>; <nwu-sports@tssi.com>
> Subject: Re: [NU Sports] good news from the point
> 
>   Good work Scott.  I hear NU's other recruit Tre Demps is highly thought of.  To steal one from Dennis,  now we need to recruit Evan Eschmeyer, re-name him Mo Swartz and the Big Ten title will be ours.
> 
> 
>    GO CATS        Eric
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
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> Sent: Sun, Mar 27, 2011 5:17 pm
> Subject: Re: [NU Sports] good news from the point
> 
> 
> Well, at least two of those, the ones committed to Kentucky and Louisville
> and rated top 5 in the nation and are McDonalds All-Americans, so......
> 
> On Sun, Mar 27, 2011 at 7:18 PM, Scott Zeller, M.D. <scottzel@gmail.com>wrote:
> 
>> One of NU's two incoming point guards, David Sobolewski, is one of five
>> finalists for the title of Illinois' "Mr. Basketball." The other finalists
>> are committed to UConn, Kentucky, Louisville and Stanford.
>> 
>> The Chicago Tribune called him "the best pure point guard in the state."
>> _______________________________________________
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From tbng at comcast.net  Mon Mar 28 06:45:14 2011
From: tbng at comcast.net (Dennis W. Brandt)
Date: Mon Mar 28 06:50:31 2011
Subject: [NU Sports] good news from the point
References: <1F89BB2CE7A5B94D969618E8CC769CC36874B692@XCHGBRS4.corp.espn.pvt>
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Grose wasn't the man of whom I was speaking.  He came long after I 
graduated.  Need one of the old-timers whose memory hasn't . . . uh . . . 
What were we talking about?

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To: <nwu-sports@tssi.com>
Sent: Monday, March 28, 2011 6:50 AM
Subject: Re: [NU Sports] good news from the point


> If memory serves, Grose was a long-range sharpshooter who had 1,000+ 
> points for NU and whose game would've been especially effective on a 
> strong team, but the Cats were overmatched nearly all of the time.
>
>>From Blackberry - please excuse typos
>
> W. Weinbaum
> Producer
> 212-916-9864 (24-hour voicemail)
> willie.weinbaum@espn.com
>
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> From: nwu-sports-bounces@tssi.com <nwu-sports-bounces@tssi.com>
> To: wildelk2@aol.com <wildelk2@aol.com>; nwu-sports-bounces@tssi.com 
> <nwu-sports-bounces@tssi.com>; sportsbiz@gmail.com <sportsbiz@gmail.com>; 
> nwu-sports@tssi.com <nwu-sports@tssi.com>
> Sent: Sun Mar 27 23:48:25 2011
> Subject: Re: [NU Sports] good news from the point
>
> About 25 years ago we got a  Mr Indiana in Jeff Gross. He didn't pan out 
> as anything special, though glad we had him.
>
> I'm not trying to throw cold water on our recruits ,just reminding us that 
> some of these guys don't always work out as advertised
>
> Hoping I'm wrong,
>
> Harry
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: wildelk2@aol.com
> Sender: nwu-sports-bounces@tssi.com
> Date: Sun, 27 Mar 2011 21:27:13
> To: <sportsbiz@gmail.com>; <nwu-sports@tssi.com>
> Subject: Re: [NU Sports] good news from the point
>
>   Good work Scott.  I hear NU's other recruit Tre Demps is highly thought 
> of.  To steal one from Dennis,  now we need to recruit Evan Eschmeyer, 
> re-name him Mo Swartz and the Big Ten title will be ours.
>
>
>    GO CATS        Eric
>
>
>
>
>
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> Cc: NUSPORTS <nwu-sports@tssi.com>
> Sent: Sun, Mar 27, 2011 5:17 pm
> Subject: Re: [NU Sports] good news from the point
>
>
> Well, at least two of those, the ones committed to Kentucky and Louisville
> and rated top 5 in the nation and are McDonalds All-Americans, so......
>
> On Sun, Mar 27, 2011 at 7:18 PM, Scott Zeller, M.D. 
> <scottzel@gmail.com>wrote:
>
>> One of NU's two incoming point guards, David Sobolewski, is one of five
>> finalists for the title of Illinois' "Mr. Basketball." The other 
>> finalists
>> are committed to UConn, Kentucky, Louisville and Stanford.
>>
>> The Chicago Tribune called him "the best pure point guard in the state."
>>_______________________________________________
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From rstetson at capps-assoc.com  Mon Mar 28 14:42:25 2011
From: rstetson at capps-assoc.com (Roy S. Lamberton)
Date: Mon Mar 28 14:42:39 2011
Subject: [NU Sports] good news from the point
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References: <AANLkTi=hrdjp8Y1LVpzraKUV8CyXb4ph3PirrfzRsWop@mail.gmail.com><AANLkTinSpf_Wy9hmwMB+zJPE7Ps2jVpE4U2RyVLU32Vd@mail.gmail.com><8CDBAFE662D3293-18C8-2D9F6@webmail-m066.sysops.aol.com>
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Not sure everyone was sold on Juice when he committed and signed.

Seacat was Indiana's 3 point leader, and did OK at NU until that State Penn Goon clocked
him on the sideline. That kid should have been kicked out of the league for that, but he
was one of State Penn's stars so go figure....

Next year we're probably one good player away from the tournament - especially after the
way we played at the end of the season.

rsl 

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Subject: Re: [NU Sports] good news from the point

About 25 years ago we got a  Mr Indiana in Jeff Gross. He didn't pan out as anything
special, though glad we had him.  

I'm not trying to throw cold water on our recruits ,just reminding us that some of these
guys don't always work out as advertised

Hoping I'm wrong,

Harry






 


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Subject: Re: [NU Sports] good news from the point

   Good work Scott.  I hear NU's other recruit Tre Demps is highly thought of.  To steal
one from Dennis,  now we need to recruit Evan Eschmeyer, re-name him Mo Swartz and the Big
Ten title will be ours.


    GO CATS        Eric





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Sent: Sun, Mar 27, 2011 5:17 pm
Subject: Re: [NU Sports] good news from the point


Well, at least two of those, the ones committed to Kentucky and Louisville
and rated top 5 in the nation and are McDonalds All-Americans, so......

On Sun, Mar 27, 2011 at 7:18 PM, Scott Zeller, M.D. <scottzel@gmail.com>wrote:

> One of NU's two incoming point guards, David Sobolewski, is one of five
> finalists for the title of Illinois' "Mr. Basketball." The other finalists
> are committed to UConn, Kentucky, Louisville and Stanford.
>
> The Chicago Tribune called him "the best pure point guard in the state."
>_______________________________________________
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