[NU Sports] telling Carmody postgame quote

Martinitis at aol.com Martinitis at aol.com
Thu Jan 27 13:35:41 CST 2011


Well said Paul.
 
 
In a message dated 1/27/2011 9:43:51 A.M. Pacific Standard Time,  
neonrye at aol.com writes:




Roy has hit it right on the head.  Carmody's job  is to maximize the 
potential of the team he has recruited.  While we  probably will never know the 
true details of the dispute that ultimately led  to Coble's separation from 
the team and the program, if healthy he is clearly  No. 1 or 1A in terms of 
talent and experience on this year's squad.  What  has always plagued NU is 
that we could not match up talent-wise with our  conference rivals.  Here we 
had the opportunity, perhaps for the first  time in the long, dark history of 
'Cat Hoops, to actually have more good  shooters and ball-handlers on the 
floor than many of our opponents.  At  6-8, 220, Coble was a 5+ rebound/game 
guy--not great, but at least he would  have grabbed a couple of balls.  It 
really makes little sense to me that  a trip to Italy results in our having 
one of our best players sitting out the  entire season.  I know it's 
"team-building" and important to  cohesion--and if Coble simply wanted to go to 
Hawaii with his family, then I  might reconsider this post--but come on, was it 
necessary for Carmody to make  this a "deal-breaker" for the season?  We 
would have been so much deeper,  and guys like Corletti would be in support 
roles, rather than in front-line  positions.  Given the fact that this was our 
best shot to make "the  Dance", and the final season for Juice and Coble, 
didn't it make sense to find  some compromise that would allow NU to have ALL 
of its best players  contributing to what we all hoped and expected would be 
the break-through  season we have been waiting for?   Given all of the 
obstacles we  have to overcome to get to this position--academic requirements, 
the  inadequacy of Welsh-Ryan, the lack of any winning tradition--how can we 
not go  forward with every "ace" in our Coach's hand?  I am sorry, but I 
just  cannot understand this at all.   This is not like Coble not going to  
class, flunking his courses, breaking team rules, or gambling, or any of the  
other "sins" that would have led GB or RW or Fitz to throw a FB player off 
the  team.  This seems to me to perhaps be a very collateral issue that was  
blown up into a test of wills by a Coach who maybe is unnecessarily insecure  
or otherwise needs to demonstrate who is boss, against a 21-year-old who 
has  been through a lot (mother's cancer, broken foot, etc.).  Having a son  
the same age- I just think that the punishment does not fit the alleged  
"crime".  For Carmody didn't only "punish" Coble, as the rest of the  team, the 
students, and we alums are all suffering as well.    

Paul Levinson






-----Original  Message-----
From: Roy S. Lamberton <rstetson at capps-assoc.com>
To:  'Eric West' <e-west at northwestern.edu>; nwu-sports at tssi.com
Sent: Thu,  Jan 27, 2011 11:48 am
Subject: RE: [NU Sports] telling Carmody postgame  quote


When the season is finally over, and whatever happens settles  in, the big 
question is still going to be why BC didn't try harder to keep  Coble 
around.

Coble, Shurna and Crawford would have been an outstanding  set of forwards 
- when 
one was having a bad night, the others could step  up. Now, if Shurna gets 
hurt 
or Crawford gets distracted, either Juice or  one of the guards off the 
bench 
have to step up. It's almost a no  win.

The other "hole" I see on the team this year is that the center  isn't 
turning 
around at the top of the key and draining a 3 pointer. Luka  could even 
shoot it 
from the foul line and it would help clean out the  middle against those 
big guys 
in the Big 10. Luka needs to make more of  his inside layups and putbacks, 
but 
the center shooting from the arc makes  it easier for the rest of the guys.

Finally, we did a good job breaking  down Minny's 2-3 zone in the first 
half. It 
took a while, but once they  were forced into man coverage, we went on the 
run.

In the 2nd half,  Minny just went after the middle, and we were  stuck.

rsl

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-----Original  Message-----
From: nwu-sports-bounces at tssi.com  [mailto:nwu-sports-bounces at tssi.com] On 
Behalf 
Of Eric West
Sent:  Thursday, January 27, 2011 11:37 AM
To: nwu-sports at tssi.com
Subject: Re:  [NU Sports] telling Carmody postgame quote

On 1/27/2011 10:13 AM,  Beamsley, Jeff wrote:
> My theory is that this team had a lot of  momentum at the start of the 
year 
because they saw the possibility that  they might be the group that gets NU 
to 
the NCAA tourney.
>
>  Shurna's nagging injury put that goal in jeopardy.  The failure of the  
rest of 
the team to step up has since put that goal out of  reach.


I still think the jury is out on this season. Every Big Ten  loss has 
been to a currently ranked team (do people realize that?), and  even St. 
John's has been on the positive side of the tourney bubble. We  don't 
have a quality win, and the chances to get one are running out, but  it's 
still conceivable. All we really need is one (two would certainly  clinch 
it).

If we ever actually lose to an unranked opponent, that  will be one 
thing. There will certainly be no room for error in that  five-game 
stretch. But people seem to forget that how we fare against Ohio  State 
or Wisconsin has nothing to do with whether we eventually make the  
tournament. Nothing has been decided yet; let's hope the team doesn't  
give up the way the fans have seemed to.

Eric  West
e-west at northwestern.edu

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