From rstetson at capps-assoc.com  Tue Feb  1 06:33:22 2011
From: rstetson at capps-assoc.com (Roy S. Lamberton)
Date: Tue Feb  1 06:33:10 2011
Subject: [NU Sports] NU's new receivers coach
In-Reply-To: <201102010528.p115StnL006036@romaine.tssi.com>
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	"Weinbaum, Willie" at Jan 31,
	2011 11:09:05 PM <201102010528.p115StnL006036@romaine.tssi.com>
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I suspect his 2nd hat as a special teams guy will be used more by NU.

He's coached just about everything on the football field in 15 years, he's just never been
a coordinator, which is probably his next move.

rsl

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> http://nusports.cstv.com/sports/m-footbl/spec-rel/013111aaa.html

Kind of interesting that Indiana and Northwestern trade assistants,
I wonder how much his experience at coaching running backs will
be utilized?
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From MHRJGScott at aol.com  Tue Feb  1 09:09:39 2011
From: MHRJGScott at aol.com (MHRJGScott@aol.com)
Date: Tue Feb  1 09:09:42 2011
Subject: [NU Sports] recruits
Message-ID: <8a5c7.4ad6f50e.3a797c33@aol.com>

Tomorrow is national signing day or as Northwestern fans here in Florida  
used to call it "Passover" But wait, although not as good as last year, we 
got 2  of the top 60, including the best name on the list, WR from Orlando, 
Xavier  Pierre Youngblood-Ary. Also DE Max Chapman from Jacksonville. GO  
CATS!!!
From MHRJGScott at aol.com  Tue Feb  1 21:53:57 2011
From: MHRJGScott at aol.com (MHRJGScott@aol.com)
Date: Tue Feb  1 21:54:04 2011
Subject: [NU Sports] snow
Message-ID: <99c2c.415a1ceb.3a7a2f55@aol.com>

 
In January 1967 I took the train from Campion High School in Prairie du  
Chien Wisconsin to Chicago for my interview to be admitted to NU, needless  to 
say when I got to town it was shut down by the biggest snow storm in  
Chicago's history. I walked a few blocks and took the L to Central street and  
walked a couple miles to my parents house. I made my Monday meeting at NU and  
credit that interview, and the fact that I did not need on campus housing 
for my  admission to NU. Anybody else remember that  one?
From johnl at mac.com  Wed Feb  2 06:05:44 2011
From: johnl at mac.com (Labbe John)
Date: Wed Feb  2 06:05:50 2011
Subject: [NU Sports] Signing day-WSJ article
Message-ID: <701C0204-ADDD-4D68-A82A-49FE3BC2FBE4@mac.com>

Here's a WSJ article about the fax machine and signing day.  Hopefully  
our recruits are faxing in their letters of intent this morning.

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052748703445904576118213111942984.html?mod=WSJ_hpp_editorsPicks_1#articleTabs%3Darticle

For those who don't know, we have a blizzard in Evanston right now.   
It's the biggest snowstorm in Chicago since 1999 (and the worst  
blizzard conditions I've seen in my 16 years living here).

I wonder if the NU coaches spent the night at the office (perhaps they  
would do so anyway if this article is right---it indicates that  
coaches start to call up recruits in the early morning hours to  
inquire about the whereabouts of their letters of intent).


From tbng at comcast.net  Wed Feb  2 07:34:25 2011
From: tbng at comcast.net (Dennis W. Brandt)
Date: Wed Feb  2 07:34:38 2011
Subject: [NU Sports] snow
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I certainly do.  It was my junior year, although being from Pennsylvania, I 
didn't find it very unusual.  I also recall an ice storm - can't remember if 
it was that year or earlier.  You literally could not walk.  Afterwards, I 
never saw so many people wearing casts in my life.

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Subject: [NU Sports] snow


>
> In January 1967 I took the train from Campion High School in Prairie du
> Chien Wisconsin to Chicago for my interview to be admitted to NU, needless 
> to
> say when I got to town it was shut down by the biggest snow storm in
> Chicago's history. I walked a few blocks and took the L to Central street 
> and
> walked a couple miles to my parents house. I made my Monday meeting at NU 
> and
> credit that interview, and the fact that I did not need on campus housing
> for my  admission to NU. Anybody else remember that  one?
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From Jeff.Beamsley at covisint.com  Wed Feb  2 07:52:59 2011
From: Jeff.Beamsley at covisint.com (Beamsley, Jeff)
Date: Wed Feb  2 07:56:42 2011
Subject: [NU Sports] snow
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ice in Evanston is the best.
 
All those stone steps, particularly at Tech, were the best for fall watching.  I recall on one particularly slippery morning, the crowd had impromptu scoring for stylish falls complete with lower scores from the east Germans.
 
Jeff


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From: nwu-sports-bounces@tssi.com on behalf of Dennis W. Brandt
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I certainly do.  It was my junior year, although being from Pennsylvania, I
didn't find it very unusual.  I also recall an ice storm - can't remember if
it was that year or earlier.  You literally could not walk.  Afterwards, I
never saw so many people wearing casts in my life.

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Subject: [NU Sports] snow


>
> In January 1967 I took the train from Campion High School in Prairie du
> Chien Wisconsin to Chicago for my interview to be admitted to NU, needless
> to
> say when I got to town it was shut down by the biggest snow storm in
> Chicago's history. I walked a few blocks and took the L to Central street
> and
> walked a couple miles to my parents house. I made my Monday meeting at NU
> and
> credit that interview, and the fact that I did not need on campus housing
> for my  admission to NU. Anybody else remember that  one?
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From rstetson at capps-assoc.com  Wed Feb  2 09:20:35 2011
From: rstetson at capps-assoc.com (Roy S. Lamberton)
Date: Wed Feb  2 09:20:41 2011
Subject: [NU Sports] Signing day-WSJ article
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Go to the NUSports web site.

They have videos of Fitz and Co. walking in from the parking lot and Cushing waiting for
the faxes to arrive.
http://nusports.cstv.com/sports/m-footbl/spec-rel/020111aaa.html


rsl

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-----Original Message-----
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John
Sent: Wednesday, February 02, 2011 7:06 AM
To: NU Sports List
Subject: [NU Sports] Signing day-WSJ article

Here's a WSJ article about the fax machine and signing day.  Hopefully  
our recruits are faxing in their letters of intent this morning.

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052748703445904576118213111942984.html?mod=WSJ_hpp
_editorsPicks_1#articleTabs%3Darticle

For those who don't know, we have a blizzard in Evanston right now.   
It's the biggest snowstorm in Chicago since 1999 (and the worst  
blizzard conditions I've seen in my 16 years living here).

I wonder if the NU coaches spent the night at the office (perhaps they  
would do so anyway if this article is right---it indicates that  
coaches start to call up recruits in the early morning hours to  
inquire about the whereabouts of their letters of intent).


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From tbng at comcast.net  Wed Feb  2 16:50:50 2011
From: tbng at comcast.net (Dennis W. Brandt)
Date: Wed Feb  2 16:51:04 2011
Subject: [NU Sports] Recruits
Message-ID: <9D6E0EDFD9E54C7E95C654B5B36D9305@DennisMachine>

The Cats picked up three 6' 3" wide receivers on signing day.  I am especially intrigued by Christian Jones, a 200-pounder who was ranked as a four-star recruit after his junior year but who tore his ACL and played little last season.  He comes in with a three-star rating but could be a real sleeper.  He wants to take cake courses - biomechanical engineering.  Pierre Youngblood-Ary is getting the press but only caught nine passes last season thanks to playing in an option offense.  At least I hope that is why he only caught nine passes.

Another possible sleeper is defensive lineman (likely an end) Max Chapman, who comes in needing to put some heft on his 230 lb., 6' 3" frame but who competed in high school in the 100 meter dash with a best time of 11.2 seconds.  Speed on the outside would be most welcome.

Overall, the newcomers look solid if the ratings mean anything - almost all three-star, which is the best rated group I can recall at NU.  It would have been nice to see a four or five-star running back and defensive lineman among that group, but we must wait another next year for that event.  (Texas got one five-star running back and fifteen four-stars.  At least one of those sixteen athletes must be Northwestern material.  Sigh.)
From MHRJGScott at aol.com  Wed Feb  2 22:41:05 2011
From: MHRJGScott at aol.com (MHRJGScott@aol.com)
Date: Wed Feb  2 22:41:20 2011
Subject: [NU Sports] Recruits
Message-ID: <28d1.41d0586.3a7b8be1@aol.com>

I will look it up tomorrow but I think Pierre Youngblood-Ary caught like 9  
passes his junior year which is why he was not recruited by the big boys 
and he  caught like 18 this year which about half were  touchdowns.
From MHRJGScott at aol.com  Thu Feb  3 08:42:12 2011
From: MHRJGScott at aol.com (MHRJGScott@aol.com)
Date: Thu Feb  3 08:42:26 2011
Subject: [NU Sports] Recruits
Message-ID: <22c17.31b03e5f.3a7c18c4@aol.com>

I found various stats but it seems Pierre Youngblood-Ary only caught 9 for  
3 tds in 2010, he was also captain of the basketball and track  teams.
From rstetson at capps-assoc.com  Thu Feb  3 09:00:49 2011
From: rstetson at capps-assoc.com (Roy S. Lamberton)
Date: Thu Feb  3 09:00:51 2011
Subject: [NU Sports] Recruits
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What stood out for me was the 3 DL recruits.

Chapman, who must run a sub 4.7 :40, and Gibson  are almost Linebacker size (6-3, 230).
When I saw those numbers, I thought of the old Buddy Ryan Raven's defense, with a hybrid
LB/DE.  DC's will always tell you that speed kills, and NU appears to be working on that
part of the defenses.

BTW, Rowlett is a long time Texas 5A power - getting their RB is a big plus, and adding
the kid from Cali could make for a 2 headed monster behind the QB down the road.

rsl



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I found various stats but it seems Pierre Youngblood-Ary only caught 9 for  
3 tds in 2010, he was also captain of the basketball and track  teams.
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From cherron604 at aol.com  Thu Feb  3 12:15:37 2011
From: cherron604 at aol.com (cherron604@aol.com)
Date: Thu Feb  3 12:16:01 2011
Subject: [NU Sports] Recruits
Message-ID: <8CD91E57E21C203-1770-1E78@webmail-d056.sysops.aol.com>


According to the Sun Times:

http://www.suntimes.com/sports/colleges/3625330-419/fitzgerald-com-star-receiver-recruit.html

I know that, in general, we don't like to discuss the annual 'recruiting ratings', because if they truly knew what they were talking about, Notre Dame would win a lot more games than they do.  However, they must know something, because Alabama, Auburn, Ohio State and certain others are always good and always highly rated.

The question is, when should clueless fans like myself start to worry about things like not being rated in the top 50, or being rated 11th out of 12 in the conference ?

And couldn't Tina Akouris at least list the ratings for the Big Ten schools ?  Or is that information somehow privileged/available only for those who pay ?  Would be nice to see that listing, but hate to have to make Tina write more than 12 paragraphs.

Chuck Herron   Tech '85



From rstetson at capps-assoc.com  Thu Feb  3 12:24:23 2011
From: rstetson at capps-assoc.com (Roy S. Lamberton)
Date: Thu Feb  3 12:24:38 2011
Subject: [NU Sports] Recruits
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According to Scout.com

#3 - dOSU is the only Big 10 team in the Top 25
23 Nebraska
26 Iowa
27 Michigan
29 MSU
33 State Penn
34 Ill-noise
39 Wiscy
NU was 56th
58 Indy
70 Minny
77 Perdoo

Overall, Big 10 5th

rsl


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According to the Sun Times:

http://www.suntimes.com/sports/colleges/3625330-419/fitzgerald-com-star-receiver-recruit.h
tml

I know that, in general, we don't like to discuss the annual 'recruiting ratings', because
if they truly knew what they were talking about, Notre Dame would win a lot more games
than they do.  However, they must know something, because Alabama, Auburn, Ohio State and
certain others are always good and always highly rated.

The question is, when should clueless fans like myself start to worry about things like
not being rated in the top 50, or being rated 11th out of 12 in the conference ?

And couldn't Tina Akouris at least list the ratings for the Big Ten schools ?  Or is that
information somehow privileged/available only for those who pay ?  Would be nice to see
that listing, but hate to have to make Tina write more than 12 paragraphs.

Chuck Herron   Tech '85



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From tkmaycock at yahoo.com  Thu Feb  3 12:34:24 2011
From: tkmaycock at yahoo.com (Tom Maycock)
Date: Thu Feb  3 12:34:34 2011
Subject: [NU Sports] Recruits
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> #3  - dOSU is the only Big 10 team in the Top 25


Hmm, what about:

> 23 Nebraska


Given that these are recruits for the 2011 season, I think it's time to 
officially count the Huskers as part of the Big 10!

Tom

From nolan at romaine.tssi.com  Thu Feb  3 12:49:34 2011
From: nolan at romaine.tssi.com (Mike Nolan)
Date: Thu Feb  3 12:49:35 2011
Subject: [NU Sports] Recruits
In-Reply-To: <000601cbc3cf$9b97bb10$d2c73130$@com> from "Roy S. Lamberton" at
	Feb 03, 2011 01:24:23 PM
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ESPN gave Nebraska #16 on their rankings of the 2011 recruiting classes,
with OSU #7.

ESPN's ranking of the conference recruiting classes

1.  OSU
2.  Nebraska
3.  MSU
4.  Illinois
5.  Penn State
6.  Iowa
7.  Michigan
8.  Wisconsin
9.  Northwestern
10. Minnesota
11.  Purdue
12.  Indiana
--
Mike Nolan

From Jeff.Beamsley at covisint.com  Thu Feb  3 13:40:48 2011
From: Jeff.Beamsley at covisint.com (Beamsley, Jeff)
Date: Thu Feb  3 13:41:02 2011
Subject: [NU Sports] Recruits
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Dennis wrote <snip>  

(Texas got one five-star running back and fifteen four-stars.  At least
one of those sixteen athletes must be Northwestern material.  Sigh.)

------------------------------

Took a look at his class and you're right.  There were a couple of kids
that appeared to have the high school academic record that would also
qualify for Northwestern (straight-A's, National Honor Society, etc.).
The problem was that they were all from Texas.  In fact, Brown only had
to go out of Texas for one kid.  He was from Oklahoma and there was no
mention of his academic success, so I suspect that he wouldn't have
qualified for Northwestern.

As we have mentioned before, Northwestern is only going get those
outstate kids who DON'T want to play for an in-state school.  The smart
Texas football players can stay home and still have several good choices
for schools that blend academics and football.  They have to get through
all those choices BEFORE they become legit Northwestern prospects.  

Though Northwestern does recruit well in Texas that speaks more to the
number of good football players that come out of that state than any
advantage it may have over in-state schools.

Jeff     

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From rstetson at capps-assoc.com  Thu Feb  3 13:45:39 2011
From: rstetson at capps-assoc.com (Roy S. Lamberton)
Date: Thu Feb  3 13:45:40 2011
Subject: [NU Sports] Recruits
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For a long time, the only really good Texas kids that got out of the state were recruited by Barry Switzer at Oklahoma

rsl

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Subject: RE: [NU Sports] Recruits



Dennis wrote <snip>  

(Texas got one five-star running back and fifteen four-stars.  At least
one of those sixteen athletes must be Northwestern material.  Sigh.)

------------------------------

Took a look at his class and you're right.  There were a couple of kids
that appeared to have the high school academic record that would also
qualify for Northwestern (straight-A's, National Honor Society, etc.).
The problem was that they were all from Texas.  In fact, Brown only had
to go out of Texas for one kid.  He was from Oklahoma and there was no
mention of his academic success, so I suspect that he wouldn't have
qualified for Northwestern.

As we have mentioned before, Northwestern is only going get those
outstate kids who DON'T want to play for an in-state school.  The smart
Texas football players can stay home and still have several good choices
for schools that blend academics and football.  They have to get through
all those choices BEFORE they become legit Northwestern prospects.  

Though Northwestern does recruit well in Texas that speaks more to the
number of good football players that come out of that state than any
advantage it may have over in-state schools.

Jeff     

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Date: Thu Feb  3 13:50:30 2011
Subject: [NU Sports] Recruits
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Besides the academic card our only other significant competitive advantage to sell these out of state  kids who are eligible for NU and are wanted by their state school is that they will likely get earlier playing time or that we will build our program around them 

 That's a tough sell that many 17 year olds may not buy

Harry
Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry

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Sender: nwu-sports-bounces@tssi.com
Date: Thu, 3 Feb 2011 14:40:48 
To: Dennis W. Brandt<tbng@comcast.net>; <nwu-sports@tssi.com>
Subject: RE: [NU Sports] Recruits



Dennis wrote <snip>  

(Texas got one five-star running back and fifteen four-stars.  At least
one of those sixteen athletes must be Northwestern material.  Sigh.)

------------------------------

Took a look at his class and you're right.  There were a couple of kids
that appeared to have the high school academic record that would also
qualify for Northwestern (straight-A's, National Honor Society, etc.).
The problem was that they were all from Texas.  In fact, Brown only had
to go out of Texas for one kid.  He was from Oklahoma and there was no
mention of his academic success, so I suspect that he wouldn't have
qualified for Northwestern.

As we have mentioned before, Northwestern is only going get those
outstate kids who DON'T want to play for an in-state school.  The smart
Texas football players can stay home and still have several good choices
for schools that blend academics and football.  They have to get through
all those choices BEFORE they become legit Northwestern prospects.  

Though Northwestern does recruit well in Texas that speaks more to the
number of good football players that come out of that state than any
advantage it may have over in-state schools.

Jeff     

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From rstetson at capps-assoc.com  Thu Feb  3 14:02:29 2011
From: rstetson at capps-assoc.com (Roy S. Lamberton)
Date: Thu Feb  3 14:02:44 2011
Subject: [NU Sports] Recruits
In-Reply-To: <201102031849.p13InY9K020302@romaine.tssi.com>
References: <000601cbc3cf$9b97bb10$d2c73130$@com> from "Roy S. Lamberton" at
	Feb 03,
	2011 01:24:23 PM <201102031849.p13InY9K020302@romaine.tssi.com>
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The order relates to how they rated each of the team's recruits.

OSU and Nebraska, and the rest.

rsl

++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
Roy S. Lamberton - Senior Associate & Unix Guru.
Computer Applications & Support Associates
-------------------- Also ----------------------
"Commissioner" Delaware American Legion Baseball
Director Media Relations - Little League 
  Senior League Softball World Series
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Chi Phi: Pi 1974, KD 1968
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From: Mike Nolan [mailto:nolan@romaine.tssi.com] 
Sent: Thursday, February 03, 2011 1:50 PM
To: Roy S. Lamberton
Cc: cherron604@aol.com; nwu-sports@tssi.com
Subject: Re: [NU Sports] Recruits

ESPN gave Nebraska #16 on their rankings of the 2011 recruiting classes,
with OSU #7.

ESPN's ranking of the conference recruiting classes

1.  OSU
2.  Nebraska
3.  MSU
4.  Illinois
5.  Penn State
6.  Iowa
7.  Michigan
8.  Wisconsin
9.  Northwestern
10. Minnesota
11.  Purdue
12.  Indiana
--
Mike Nolan


From alan.abrahamson at gmail.com  Thu Feb  3 14:10:23 2011
From: alan.abrahamson at gmail.com (Alan Abrahamson)
Date: Thu Feb  3 14:10:31 2011
Subject: [NU Sports] Recruits
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At the risk of being contrary:

Five years ago, 16,000 kids applied for, what, 2,000 (1,800?) spots in
the Northwestern freshman class.

This year, same number of spots in the class but 36,000 applications.
Plus one of the great young coaches in the country. I don't think
Northwestern football is a particularly tough sell, frankly.

Which begs the q - why can't we find three good basketball players?!


Sent from my iPhone

On Feb 3, 2011, at 11:50 AM, "hakirsch@aol.com" <hakirsch@aol.com> wrote:

> Besides the academic card our only other significant competitive advantage to sell these out of state  kids who are eligible for NU and are wanted by their state school is that they will likely get earlier playing time or that we will build our program around them
>
> That's a tough sell that many 17 year olds may not buy
>
> Harry
> Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: "Beamsley, Jeff" <Jeff.Beamsley@covisint.com>
> Sender: nwu-sports-bounces@tssi.com
> Date: Thu, 3 Feb 2011 14:40:48
> To: Dennis W. Brandt<tbng@comcast.net>; <nwu-sports@tssi.com>
> Subject: RE: [NU Sports] Recruits
>
>
>
> Dennis wrote <snip>
>
> (Texas got one five-star running back and fifteen four-stars.  At least
> one of those sixteen athletes must be Northwestern material.  Sigh.)
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Took a look at his class and you're right.  There were a couple of kids
> that appeared to have the high school academic record that would also
> qualify for Northwestern (straight-A's, National Honor Society, etc.).
> The problem was that they were all from Texas.  In fact, Brown only had
> to go out of Texas for one kid.  He was from Oklahoma and there was no
> mention of his academic success, so I suspect that he wouldn't have
> qualified for Northwestern.
>
> As we have mentioned before, Northwestern is only going get those
> outstate kids who DON'T want to play for an in-state school.  The smart
> Texas football players can stay home and still have several good choices
> for schools that blend academics and football.  They have to get through
> all those choices BEFORE they become legit Northwestern prospects.
>
> Though Northwestern does recruit well in Texas that speaks more to the
> number of good football players that come out of that state than any
> advantage it may have over in-state schools.
>
> Jeff
>
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From Jeff.Beamsley at covisint.com  Thu Feb  3 14:10:46 2011
From: Jeff.Beamsley at covisint.com (Beamsley, Jeff)
Date: Thu Feb  3 14:10:56 2011
Subject: [NU Sports] Recruits
In-Reply-To: <001701cbc3dd$49bf3e90$dd3dbbb0$@com>
References: <000601cbc3cf$9b97bb10$d2c73130$@com> from "Roy S. Lamberton"
	atFeb 03,
	2011 01:24:23 PM <201102031849.p13InY9K020302@romaine.tssi.com>
	<001701cbc3dd$49bf3e90$dd3dbbb0$@com>
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Actually pretty interesting with all of the issues swirling around UoM and with only a month or so of recruiting, Hoke still managed to pull together a fairly decent class with some emphasis on defense.

Jeff



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From: nwu-sports-bounces@tssi.com [mailto:nwu-sports-bounces@tssi.com] On Behalf Of Roy S. Lamberton
Sent: Thursday, February 03, 2011 3:02 PM
To: 'Mike Nolan'
Cc: cherron604@aol.com; nwu-sports@tssi.com
Subject: RE: [NU Sports] Recruits

The order relates to how they rated each of the team's recruits.

OSU and Nebraska, and the rest.

rsl

++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
Roy S. Lamberton - Senior Associate & Unix Guru.
Computer Applications & Support Associates
-------------------- Also ----------------------
"Commissioner" Delaware American Legion Baseball
Director Media Relations - Little League 
  Senior League Softball World Series
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Northwestern University - Speech 1974 - 
Chi Phi: Pi 1974, KD 1968
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"...Then I get on my knees and pray,
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================================================


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Sent: Thursday, February 03, 2011 1:50 PM
To: Roy S. Lamberton
Cc: cherron604@aol.com; nwu-sports@tssi.com
Subject: Re: [NU Sports] Recruits

ESPN gave Nebraska #16 on their rankings of the 2011 recruiting classes,
with OSU #7.

ESPN's ranking of the conference recruiting classes

1.  OSU
2.  Nebraska
3.  MSU
4.  Illinois
5.  Penn State
6.  Iowa
7.  Michigan
8.  Wisconsin
9.  Northwestern
10. Minnesota
11.  Purdue
12.  Indiana
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From Jeff.Beamsley at covisint.com  Thu Feb  3 14:33:04 2011
From: Jeff.Beamsley at covisint.com (Beamsley, Jeff)
Date: Thu Feb  3 14:35:04 2011
Subject: [NU Sports] Recruits
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Because tall people (over 6"6") are statistical freaks of nature (for
you stats guys it's about three standard deviations from the norm), so
that puts it at approx .5% of the total population.

The number gets smaller when you consider those that can actually play
basketball, and even smaller when you consider the number that can play
basketball at a Division I level and like to study.

I also think that we have a lot more recruiting competition for smart
basketball players (Duke, Stanford, etc.) than we do for smart football
players.

Finally, our football program has demonstrated that it can graduate kids
into the NFL.  Our basketball program hasn't demonstrated that it can
graduate kids into the NBA.  So why would a smart kid with NBA potential
choose Northwestern over Duke?  The only reason that comes to mind is
that they would like to play close to home.  That's exactly why Mark
Aguirre went to DePaul and put that program on the map.  

There aren't many (maybe not any) north shore or suburban kids playing
in the NBA.  There ARE a lot of Chicago Public League kids playing in
the NBA.  So I would suggest that our basketball future is going to be
tied inextricably to our ability to identify and recruit some very
special kids out of the Chicago Public league and that may take a while.

Jeff

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From: Alan Abrahamson [mailto:alan.abrahamson@gmail.com] 
Sent: Thursday, February 03, 2011 3:10 PM
To: hakirsch@aol.com
Cc: Beamsley, Jeff; nwu-sports-bounces@tssi.com; Dennis W. Brandt;
nwu-sports@tssi.com
Subject: Re: [NU Sports] Recruits

At the risk of being contrary:

Five years ago, 16,000 kids applied for, what, 2,000 (1,800?) spots in
the Northwestern freshman class.

This year, same number of spots in the class but 36,000 applications.
Plus one of the great young coaches in the country. I don't think
Northwestern football is a particularly tough sell, frankly.

Which begs the q - why can't we find three good basketball players?!


Sent from my iPhone

On Feb 3, 2011, at 11:50 AM, "hakirsch@aol.com" <hakirsch@aol.com>
wrote:

> Besides the academic card our only other significant competitive
advantage to sell these out of state  kids who are eligible for NU and
are wanted by their state school is that they will likely get earlier
playing time or that we will build our program around them
>
> That's a tough sell that many 17 year olds may not buy
>
> Harry
> Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: "Beamsley, Jeff" <Jeff.Beamsley@covisint.com>
> Sender: nwu-sports-bounces@tssi.com
> Date: Thu, 3 Feb 2011 14:40:48
> To: Dennis W. Brandt<tbng@comcast.net>; <nwu-sports@tssi.com>
> Subject: RE: [NU Sports] Recruits
>
>
>
> Dennis wrote <snip>
>
> (Texas got one five-star running back and fifteen four-stars.  At
least
> one of those sixteen athletes must be Northwestern material.  Sigh.)
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Took a look at his class and you're right.  There were a couple of
kids
> that appeared to have the high school academic record that would also
> qualify for Northwestern (straight-A's, National Honor Society, etc.).
> The problem was that they were all from Texas.  In fact, Brown only
had
> to go out of Texas for one kid.  He was from Oklahoma and there was no
> mention of his academic success, so I suspect that he wouldn't have
> qualified for Northwestern.
>
> As we have mentioned before, Northwestern is only going get those
> outstate kids who DON'T want to play for an in-state school.  The
smart
> Texas football players can stay home and still have several good
choices
> for schools that blend academics and football.  They have to get
through
> all those choices BEFORE they become legit Northwestern prospects.
>
> Though Northwestern does recruit well in Texas that speaks more to the
> number of good football players that come out of that state than any
> advantage it may have over in-state schools.
>
> Jeff
>
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From hakirsch at aol.com  Thu Feb  3 14:42:49 2011
From: hakirsch at aol.com (hakirsch@aol.com)
Date: Thu Feb  3 14:42:18 2011
Subject: [NU Sports] Recruits
In-Reply-To: <773876774190253330@unknownmsgid>
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Perhaps it shouldn't be a tough sell but it obviously is.  As Dennis and RSL pointed out we could have gotten some of the kids who chose Texas but didn't. 

Harry
Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry

-----Original Message-----
From: Alan Abrahamson <alan.abrahamson@gmail.com>
Date: Thu, 3 Feb 2011 12:10:23 
To: hakirsch@aol.com<hakirsch@aol.com>
Cc: Beamsley, Jeff<Jeff.Beamsley@covisint.com>; nwu-sports-bounces@tssi.com<nwu-sports-bounces@tssi.com>; Dennis W. Brandt<tbng@comcast.net>; nwu-sports@tssi.com<nwu-sports@tssi.com>
Subject: Re: [NU Sports] Recruits

At the risk of being contrary:

Five years ago, 16,000 kids applied for, what, 2,000 (1,800?) spots in
the Northwestern freshman class.

This year, same number of spots in the class but 36,000 applications.
Plus one of the great young coaches in the country. I don't think
Northwestern football is a particularly tough sell, frankly.

Which begs the q - why can't we find three good basketball players?!


Sent from my iPhone

On Feb 3, 2011, at 11:50 AM, "hakirsch@aol.com" <hakirsch@aol.com> wrote:

> Besides the academic card our only other significant competitive advantage to sell these out of state  kids who are eligible for NU and are wanted by their state school is that they will likely get earlier playing time or that we will build our program around them
>
> That's a tough sell that many 17 year olds may not buy
>
> Harry
> Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: "Beamsley, Jeff" <Jeff.Beamsley@covisint.com>
> Sender: nwu-sports-bounces@tssi.com
> Date: Thu, 3 Feb 2011 14:40:48
> To: Dennis W. Brandt<tbng@comcast.net>; <nwu-sports@tssi.com>
> Subject: RE: [NU Sports] Recruits
>
>
>
> Dennis wrote <snip>
>
> (Texas got one five-star running back and fifteen four-stars.  At least
> one of those sixteen athletes must be Northwestern material.  Sigh.)
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Took a look at his class and you're right.  There were a couple of kids
> that appeared to have the high school academic record that would also
> qualify for Northwestern (straight-A's, National Honor Society, etc.).
> The problem was that they were all from Texas.  In fact, Brown only had
> to go out of Texas for one kid.  He was from Oklahoma and there was no
> mention of his academic success, so I suspect that he wouldn't have
> qualified for Northwestern.
>
> As we have mentioned before, Northwestern is only going get those
> outstate kids who DON'T want to play for an in-state school.  The smart
> Texas football players can stay home and still have several good choices
> for schools that blend academics and football.  They have to get through
> all those choices BEFORE they become legit Northwestern prospects.
>
> Though Northwestern does recruit well in Texas that speaks more to the
> number of good football players that come out of that state than any
> advantage it may have over in-state schools.
>
> Jeff
>
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From alan.abrahamson at gmail.com  Thu Feb  3 14:55:11 2011
From: alan.abrahamson at gmail.com (Alan Abrahamson)
Date: Thu Feb  3 14:55:22 2011
Subject: [NU Sports] Recruits
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Yes but come on, Harry. That's not exactly really anything to complain
about, is it? The University of Texas has an awful lot going for it.
Even its own television network.

If

Sent from my iPhone

On Feb 3, 2011, at 12:42 PM, "hakirsch@aol.com" <hakirsch@aol.com> wrote:

> Perhaps it shouldn't be a tough sell but it obviously is.  As Dennis and RSL pointed out we could have gotten some of the kids who chose Texas but didn't.
>
> Harry
> Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Alan Abrahamson <alan.abrahamson@gmail.com>
> Date: Thu, 3 Feb 2011 12:10:23
> To: hakirsch@aol.com<hakirsch@aol.com>
> Cc: Beamsley, Jeff<Jeff.Beamsley@covisint.com>; nwu-sports-bounces@tssi.com<nwu-sports-bounces@tssi.com>; Dennis W. Brandt<tbng@comcast.net>; nwu-sports@tssi.com<nwu-sports@tssi.com>
> Subject: Re: [NU Sports] Recruits
>
> At the risk of being contrary:
>
> Five years ago, 16,000 kids applied for, what, 2,000 (1,800?) spots in
> the Northwestern freshman class.
>
> This year, same number of spots in the class but 36,000 applications.
> Plus one of the great young coaches in the country. I don't think
> Northwestern football is a particularly tough sell, frankly.
>
> Which begs the q - why can't we find three good basketball players?!
>
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Feb 3, 2011, at 11:50 AM, "hakirsch@aol.com" <hakirsch@aol.com> wrote:
>
>> Besides the academic card our only other significant competitive advantage to sell these out of state  kids who are eligible for NU and are wanted by their state school is that they will likely get earlier playing time or that we will build our program around them
>>
>> That's a tough sell that many 17 year olds may not buy
>>
>> Harry
>> Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: "Beamsley, Jeff" <Jeff.Beamsley@covisint.com>
>> Sender: nwu-sports-bounces@tssi.com
>> Date: Thu, 3 Feb 2011 14:40:48
>> To: Dennis W. Brandt<tbng@comcast.net>; <nwu-sports@tssi.com>
>> Subject: RE: [NU Sports] Recruits
>>
>>
>>
>> Dennis wrote <snip>
>>
>> (Texas got one five-star running back and fifteen four-stars.  At least
>> one of those sixteen athletes must be Northwestern material.  Sigh.)
>>
>> ------------------------------
>>
>> Took a look at his class and you're right.  There were a couple of kids
>> that appeared to have the high school academic record that would also
>> qualify for Northwestern (straight-A's, National Honor Society, etc.).
>> The problem was that they were all from Texas.  In fact, Brown only had
>> to go out of Texas for one kid.  He was from Oklahoma and there was no
>> mention of his academic success, so I suspect that he wouldn't have
>> qualified for Northwestern.
>>
>> As we have mentioned before, Northwestern is only going get those
>> outstate kids who DON'T want to play for an in-state school.  The smart
>> Texas football players can stay home and still have several good choices
>> for schools that blend academics and football.  They have to get through
>> all those choices BEFORE they become legit Northwestern prospects.
>>
>> Though Northwestern does recruit well in Texas that speaks more to the
>> number of good football players that come out of that state than any
>> advantage it may have over in-state schools.
>>
>> Jeff
>>
>> The contents of this e-mail are intended for the named addressee only. It contains information that may be confidential. Unless you are the named addressee or an authorized designee, you may not copy or use it, or disclose it to anyone else. If you received it in error please notify us immediately and then destroy it.
>>
>>
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From nolan at romaine.tssi.com  Thu Feb  3 16:46:02 2011
From: nolan at romaine.tssi.com (Mike Nolan)
Date: Thu Feb  3 16:46:06 2011
Subject: [NU Sports] Recruits
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	from "Beamsley, Jeff" at Feb 03, 2011 03:33:04 PM
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> Finally, our football program has demonstrated that it can graduate kids
> into the NFL.  Our basketball program hasn't demonstrated that it can
> graduate kids into the NBA.  So why would a smart kid with NBA potential
> choose Northwestern over Duke?  The only reason that comes to mind is
> that they would like to play close to home.  That's exactly why Mark
> Aguirre went to DePaul and put that program on the map.  

I think it's a slight stretch to say that Mark Aguirre put DePaul basketball
on the map.  DePaul had 8 NCAA tournament appearances before their
Final Four trip in 1979, Aguirre's freshman year, including a Final 
Four appearance in 1960, and they won the NIT in 1945, back when the
NIT was a far more meaningful tournament than it is now.  
 
> There aren't many (maybe not any) north shore or suburban kids playing
> in the NBA.  There ARE a lot of Chicago Public League kids playing in
> the NBA.  So I would suggest that our basketball future is going to be
> tied inextricably to our ability to identify and recruit some very
> special kids out of the Chicago Public league and that may take a while.

Yeah, it'll be tough to put Northwestern basketball on the map.  It
takes a breakout season (if not several) by a great coach working 
with unheralded athletes who didn't get recruited by the bigger name 
schools, like what happened with NU football in 1995, with players 
like Fitz.  As Fitz said on ESPN.com recently, "I went from a zero-star 
prospect to a two-time All-American.  Put that in your pipe and smoke it."

And maybe Carmody isn't the coach who can pull off that miracle like
Barnett did, but finding that coach will not be easy.  In many
ways it may be a harder challenge than the one Barnett faced.

It doesn't necessarily have to be a superstar, though, Gary Barnett 
wasn't exactly the hottest coaching prospect in the world when Northwestern 
hired him in 1991.  
--
Mike Nolan

From tbng at comcast.net  Thu Feb  3 17:33:15 2011
From: tbng at comcast.net (Dennis W. Brandt)
Date: Thu Feb  3 17:33:33 2011
Subject: [NU Sports] Recruits II
Message-ID: <1E884E076BD94F94B4AFBD0AF46A5763@DennisMachine>

When Fitz says,  "I went from a zero-star prospect to a two-time All-American.  Put that in your pipe and smoke it," he is, of course, stating the absolute truth.  But he can hardly say anything else.  He certainly is not going to demean recruits by say something like "I wish I would have done better."

Based on ratings of this year's recruiting class - to the extent that the ratings are valid - this may be the best in NU history, but there is still lots of room for improvements in talent.  Oh, what I wouldn't give for a five-star running back next season.  (Throw in a five-star defensive end, too.)

From thehaze at earthlink.net  Thu Feb  3 18:17:53 2011
From: thehaze at earthlink.net (Jim Bendat)
Date: Thu Feb  3 18:18:30 2011
Subject: [NU Sports] Recruits
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Re DePaul: I think it's a fair statement to say Aguire put DePaul on the modern-day basketball map. Basketball was pretty much an all-white sport in George Mikan's day in 1945. That 1945 DePaul team played NCAA champion Oklahoma A&M right after each of the two schools had won the two titles. A&M won that Red Cross Benefit game at Madison Square Garden. When DePaul made the NCAA Final Four in 1979, it was DePaul's first such appearance. The final four teams in 1960 were Ohio State, California, Cincinnati and NYU - Jim B.

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>Subject: Re: [NU Sports] Recruits

>>> That's exactly why Mark
>> Aguirre went to DePaul and put that program on the map.  
>
>I think it's a slight stretch to say that Mark Aguirre put DePaul basketball
>on the map.  DePaul had 8 NCAA tournament appearances before their
>Final Four trip in 1979, Aguirre's freshman year, including a Final 
>Four appearance in 1960, and they won the NIT in 1945, back when the
>NIT was a far more meaningful tournament than it is now.  
> 

From hakirsch at aol.com  Thu Feb  3 19:04:14 2011
From: hakirsch at aol.com (hakirsch@aol.com)
Date: Thu Feb  3 19:03:47 2011
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Depaul made the final 8 in 1978 ,the year before Aguire took them to the final 4 ,and of course he missed the 15 footer in 1979 that would have sent them to the finals against Magic and Special K

Harry
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Re DePaul: I think it's a fair statement to say Aguire put DePaul on the modern-day basketball map. Basketball was pretty much an all-white sport in George Mikan's day in 1945. That 1945 DePaul team played NCAA champion Oklahoma A&M right after each of the two schools had won the two titles. A&M won that Red Cross Benefit game at Madison Square Garden. When DePaul made the NCAA Final Four in 1979, it was DePaul's first such appearance. The final four teams in 1960 were Ohio State, California, Cincinnati and NYU - Jim B.

-----Original Message-----
>From: Mike Nolan <nolan@romaine.tssi.com>
>Sent: Feb 3, 2011 2:46 PM
>Subject: Re: [NU Sports] Recruits

>>> That's exactly why Mark
>> Aguirre went to DePaul and put that program on the map.  
>
>I think it's a slight stretch to say that Mark Aguirre put DePaul basketball
>on the map.  DePaul had 8 NCAA tournament appearances before their
>Final Four trip in 1979, Aguirre's freshman year, including a Final 
>Four appearance in 1960, and they won the NIT in 1945, back when the
>NIT was a far more meaningful tournament than it is now.  
> 

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From Jeff.Beamsley at covisint.com  Thu Feb  3 19:34:24 2011
From: Jeff.Beamsley at covisint.com (Beamsley, Jeff)
Date: Thu Feb  3 19:34:51 2011
Subject: [NU Sports] Recruits
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Barnett was lightening in a bottle.  He did figure out how to use NU's academic strength as a recruiting advantage and he did figure out how to get a team of kids who had been passed over by other programs to believe in themselves.  But he had a hard time replicating that feat.
 
I don't think Carmody has the same personality.  He is a plodder that hopefully will make slow and steady progress.  He may get us to the dance, but we'll need somebody else to truly transform the program.
 
Jeff


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Sent: Thu 2/3/2011 5:46 PM
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> Finally, our football program has demonstrated that it can graduate kids
> into the NFL.  Our basketball program hasn't demonstrated that it can
> graduate kids into the NBA.  So why would a smart kid with NBA potential
> choose Northwestern over Duke?  The only reason that comes to mind is
> that they would like to play close to home.  That's exactly why Mark
> Aguirre went to DePaul and put that program on the map. 

I think it's a slight stretch to say that Mark Aguirre put DePaul basketball
on the map.  DePaul had 8 NCAA tournament appearances before their
Final Four trip in 1979, Aguirre's freshman year, including a Final
Four appearance in 1960, and they won the NIT in 1945, back when the
NIT was a far more meaningful tournament than it is now. 

> There aren't many (maybe not any) north shore or suburban kids playing
> in the NBA.  There ARE a lot of Chicago Public League kids playing in
> the NBA.  So I would suggest that our basketball future is going to be
> tied inextricably to our ability to identify and recruit some very
> special kids out of the Chicago Public league and that may take a while.

Yeah, it'll be tough to put Northwestern basketball on the map.  It
takes a breakout season (if not several) by a great coach working
with unheralded athletes who didn't get recruited by the bigger name
schools, like what happened with NU football in 1995, with players
like Fitz.  As Fitz said on ESPN.com recently, "I went from a zero-star
prospect to a two-time All-American.  Put that in your pipe and smoke it."

And maybe Carmody isn't the coach who can pull off that miracle like
Barnett did, but finding that coach will not be easy.  In many
ways it may be a harder challenge than the one Barnett faced.

It doesn't necessarily have to be a superstar, though, Gary Barnett
wasn't exactly the hottest coaching prospect in the world when Northwestern
hired him in 1991. 
--
Mike Nolan




From cherron604 at aol.com  Thu Feb  3 19:46:09 2011
From: cherron604 at aol.com (cherron604@aol.com)
Date: Thu Feb  3 19:47:04 2011
Subject: [NU Sports] Recruits
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 Don't forget those other selling points - 20 inch snowfalls, horrific winds off the lake, and a perennially underperforming mens basketball team...

Chuck Herron   Tech '85 

 


 

 

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Sent: Thu, Feb 3, 2011 1:50 pm
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Besides the academic card our only other significant competitive advantage to 

sell these out of state  kids who are eligible for NU and are wanted by their 

state school is that they will likely get earlier playing time or that we will 

build our program around them 



 That's a tough sell that many 17 year olds may not buy



Harry

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Date: Thu, 3 Feb 2011 14:40:48 

To: Dennis W. Brandt<tbng@comcast.net>; <nwu-sports@tssi.com>

Subject: RE: [NU Sports] Recruits







Dennis wrote <snip>  



(Texas got one five-star running back and fifteen four-stars.  At least

one of those sixteen athletes must be Northwestern material.  Sigh.)



------------------------------



Took a look at his class and you're right.  There were a couple of kids

that appeared to have the high school academic record that would also

qualify for Northwestern (straight-A's, National Honor Society, etc.).

The problem was that they were all from Texas.  In fact, Brown only had

to go out of Texas for one kid.  He was from Oklahoma and there was no

mention of his academic success, so I suspect that he wouldn't have

qualified for Northwestern.



As we have mentioned before, Northwestern is only going get those

outstate kids who DON'T want to play for an in-state school.  The smart

Texas football players can stay home and still have several good choices

for schools that blend academics and football.  They have to get through

all those choices BEFORE they become legit Northwestern prospects.  



Though Northwestern does recruit well in Texas that speaks more to the

number of good football players that come out of that state than any

advantage it may have over in-state schools.



Jeff     



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From rstetson at capps-assoc.com  Thu Feb  3 21:23:17 2011
From: rstetson at capps-assoc.com (Roy S. Lamberton)
Date: Thu Feb  3 21:23:16 2011
Subject: [NU Sports] Recruits
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I believe that's why BC first hired Craig Robinson, and then Tavares - both added multiple
contacts in the Chicago Public League to their coaching abilities (and experience in the
BC Offense).

Somehow we need to find another Eschmeyer type.

rsl

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There aren't many (maybe not any) north shore or suburban kids playing
in the NBA.  There ARE a lot of Chicago Public League kids playing in
the NBA.  So I would suggest that our basketball future is going to be
tied inextricably to our ability to identify and recruit some very
special kids out of the Chicago Public league and that may take a while.

Jeff

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From rstetson at capps-assoc.com  Thu Feb  3 21:26:06 2011
From: rstetson at capps-assoc.com (Roy S. Lamberton)
Date: Thu Feb  3 21:26:06 2011
Subject: [NU Sports] Recruits
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Barnett also had some top assistants: Tom Bratton - OL, Ron Vanderlinden - DC.

The Barnett Cats started to decline when Van took the job at Maryland. It had to happen, but GB never could find another guy to pump up the defense.

rsl

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Subject: RE: [NU Sports] Recruits

Barnett was lightening in a bottle.  He did figure out how to use NU's academic strength as a recruiting advantage and he did figure out how to get a team of kids who had been passed over by other programs to believe in themselves.  But he had a hard time replicating that feat.
 
I don't think Carmody has the same personality.  He is a plodder that hopefully will make slow and steady progress.  He may get us to the dance, but we'll need somebody else to truly transform the program.
 
Jeff


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Subject: Re: [NU Sports] Recruits



> Finally, our football program has demonstrated that it can graduate kids
> into the NFL.  Our basketball program hasn't demonstrated that it can
> graduate kids into the NBA.  So why would a smart kid with NBA potential
> choose Northwestern over Duke?  The only reason that comes to mind is
> that they would like to play close to home.  That's exactly why Mark
> Aguirre went to DePaul and put that program on the map. 

I think it's a slight stretch to say that Mark Aguirre put DePaul basketball
on the map.  DePaul had 8 NCAA tournament appearances before their
Final Four trip in 1979, Aguirre's freshman year, including a Final
Four appearance in 1960, and they won the NIT in 1945, back when the
NIT was a far more meaningful tournament than it is now. 

> There aren't many (maybe not any) north shore or suburban kids playing
> in the NBA.  There ARE a lot of Chicago Public League kids playing in
> the NBA.  So I would suggest that our basketball future is going to be
> tied inextricably to our ability to identify and recruit some very
> special kids out of the Chicago Public league and that may take a while.

Yeah, it'll be tough to put Northwestern basketball on the map.  It
takes a breakout season (if not several) by a great coach working
with unheralded athletes who didn't get recruited by the bigger name
schools, like what happened with NU football in 1995, with players
like Fitz.  As Fitz said on ESPN.com recently, "I went from a zero-star
prospect to a two-time All-American.  Put that in your pipe and smoke it."

And maybe Carmody isn't the coach who can pull off that miracle like
Barnett did, but finding that coach will not be easy.  In many
ways it may be a harder challenge than the one Barnett faced.

It doesn't necessarily have to be a superstar, though, Gary Barnett
wasn't exactly the hottest coaching prospect in the world when Northwestern
hired him in 1991. 
--
Mike Nolan




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From rstetson at capps-assoc.com  Thu Feb  3 21:28:55 2011
From: rstetson at capps-assoc.com (Roy S. Lamberton)
Date: Thu Feb  3 21:29:12 2011
Subject: [NU Sports] Yes there is hope
Message-ID: <003d01cbc41b$a7727b90$f65772b0$@com>

Once again, a team using our tactics almost played dOSU even tonight. 

U-Mich played a slow down game, but couldn't hit enough shots to catch up and at the end
dOSU really played some D to keep them out of it (unlike the other night)

I'm hoping for really good things Saturday.

Just play slow and steady

rsl

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From nolan at romaine.tssi.com  Thu Feb  3 21:42:02 2011
From: nolan at romaine.tssi.com (Mike Nolan)
Date: Thu Feb  3 21:42:04 2011
Subject: [NU Sports] Recruits
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	from "Jim Bendat" at Feb 03, 2011 04:17:53 PM
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> Re DePaul: I think it's a fair statement to say Aguire put DePaul on the modern-day basketball map. Basketball was pretty much an all-white sport in George Mikan's day in 1945. That 1945 DePaul team played NCAA champion Oklahoma A&M right after each of the two schools had won the two titles. A&M won that Red Cross Benefit game at Madison Square Garden. When DePaul made the NCAA Final Four in 1979, it was DePaul's first such appearance. The final four teams in 1960 were Ohio State, California, Cincinnati and NYU - Jim B.

I mis-read another site, but according to this site, DePaul made the Final Four 
in 1943, along with Wyoming, Georgetown and Texas.

http://www.college-basketball-rankings.com/ncaa-final-four-history.html
--
Mike Nolan

From cherron604 at aol.com  Fri Feb  4 12:31:07 2011
From: cherron604 at aol.com (cherron604@aol.com)
Date: Fri Feb  4 12:31:28 2011
Subject: [NU Sports] When will we ever see another title ?
Message-ID: <8CD92B0D2E3FCD6-1270-34C79@Webmail-d104.sysops.aol.com>


A question/mental exercise for a cold day

Gary Barnett arrived in 1992.  In his 4th year, we had an unbeaten conference title(8-0).  In his 5th year, we had a share of the conference title(7-1)

Randy Walker arrived in 1999.  In his 2nd year, we had a share of the conference title(6-2)  That represents an incredible 3 conference titles in 6 years.

Fitz arrived in 2006.  After 5 years, there have been no titles, but 3 consecutive bowl teams (2-4th place finishes and a 7th place finish)

With the new divisional set-up, will we ever see another Big Ten title ?

Are we more in annual bowl-game mode nowadays ?

Will we ever see an accomplishment like GB/RW 3 titles in 9 seasons after Francis Peay ?

Chuck Herron   Tech '85



From tkmaycock at yahoo.com  Fri Feb  4 12:54:20 2011
From: tkmaycock at yahoo.com (Tom Maycock)
Date: Fri Feb  4 12:54:25 2011
Subject: [NU Sports] When will we ever see another title ?
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In one sense, another championship will be harder to come by simply because 
there won't be any more shared championships. Remember, 2 of our 3 titles were 
shared, and in '95 we didn't have to play the other dominant team in the 
conference. 

Now, there will only be one champion each year. And we've added another team, so 
if everything were equal, our chances dropped from say 2 (or even 3) out of 11 
to 1 out of 12. And of course, everything isn't equal.

On the other hand, the conference championship game means that the "best" team 
won't always be the conference championship, because when it all comes down to 
one game, sometimes the best team loses. So, all you need to do is win your 
division (or win the tie-breaker in your division) and you have a shot. 

Consider next year in our division. I'd say Nebraska has a good chance of being 
the best team (assuming Martinez stays healthy and continues to develop). But 
Nebraska plays a *killer* schedule. Could we lose to Nebraska but still finish 
ahead of them in the standings? Yeah, I think so. Can we make it to the 
championship game? Hmm, maybe. 

As for the other side of your question, I think Pat has come close to equaling 
at least the 2000 team, in both '08 and '09. The '09 team might have had a real 
shot of equaling or bettering the '00 team's B10 record if it weren't for 
injuries (the defense the first half of the year, Kafka vs PSU, etc.). Of 
course, both those teams had a lot to do with Walker.

Can Fitz win a championship in the new B10? Yeah, I think so. In fact, I think 
he will. Probably more than one.

Tom







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> From: "cherron604@aol.com" <cherron604@aol.com>
> To: nwu-sports@tssi.com
> Sent: Fri, February 4, 2011 12:31:07 PM
> Subject: [NU Sports] When will we ever see another title ?
> 
> 
> A question/mental exercise for a cold day
> 
> Gary Barnett arrived in  1992.  In his 4th year, we had an unbeaten conference 
>title(8-0).  In  his 5th year, we had a share of the conference title(7-1)
> 
> Randy Walker  arrived in 1999.  In his 2nd year, we had a share of the 
>conference  title(6-2)  That represents an incredible 3 conference titles in 6  
>years.
> 
> Fitz arrived in 2006.  After 5 years, there have been no  titles, but 3 
>consecutive bowl teams (2-4th place finishes and a 7th place  finish)
> 
> With the new divisional set-up, will we ever see another Big Ten  title ?
> 
> Are we more in annual bowl-game mode nowadays ?
> 
> Will we  ever see an accomplishment like GB/RW 3 titles in 9 seasons after 
>Francis Peay  ?
> 
> Chuck Herron   Tech  '85
> 
> 
> 
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From nolan at romaine.tssi.com  Fri Feb  4 13:47:38 2011
From: nolan at romaine.tssi.com (Mike Nolan)
Date: Fri Feb  4 13:47:39 2011
Subject: [NU Sports] When will we ever see another title ?
In-Reply-To: <389146.5500.qm@web33101.mail.mud.yahoo.com> from "Tom Maycock"
	at Feb 04, 2011 10:54:20 AM
Message-ID: <201102041947.p14JlcDI024947@romaine.tssi.com>

In the 15 years that the Big XII held its championship game:

Nebraska represented the North division 6 times,
Colorado represented the North division 4 times
Kansas State represented the North division 3 times
Missouri represented the North division 2 times

2/3 of the teams in the North division made it to the championship gam
at least once.  (And Iowa State came pretty close to it once.)  

Oklahoma represented the South division 8 times
Texas represented the South division 5 times
Texas A&M represented the South division 2 times

1/2 of the teams in the South division made it to the championship game
at least once.  

Would I be satisfied with Northwestern representing the "whatever 
they called it division" of the Big Ten twice in the next 15 years?  

Maybe.  I'd like to see us get there more frequently than that, though.
--
Mike Nolan

From sjtruog at yahoo.com  Fri Feb  4 21:58:24 2011
From: sjtruog at yahoo.com (SjT (Stephen J. Truog))
Date: Fri Feb  4 21:58:28 2011
Subject: [NU Sports] When will we ever see another title ?
In-Reply-To: <201102041947.p14JlcDI024947@romaine.tssi.com>
Message-ID: <612007.93652.qm@web121701.mail.ne1.yahoo.com>

To piggyback off that ...

In each SEC division, 4 teams have made the title game ... only Kentucky/Vandy and Miss/Miss State have not.

The Big Ten has had far more parity in the B(C)S era than the SEC or Big XII, so yeah, we got a shot.

And in the short term, I like our division as well. Sure, Nebraska is the clear team to beat, but Michigan has a new coach and we have Iowa's number. Figure out how to hold on to a friggin' lead against Sparty and we're in the mix. Plus, as mentioned, Nebraska's rotation schedule is much tougher than ours (and, as "new kid on the block," everyone will be circling the UNL game and giving them their best shot - remember how tough it was for PSU to adjust even though they were supposed to roll over a weak Big Ten).

As for once you make it to the title game, that remains to be seen -- the SEC has been heavily on the side of the favorites, while the Big XII game was more known for wild upsets.

One last thing ... being a "perennial bowl team" ain't all that bad either. Ask Gopher fans if they'd like to have that "just another bowl season" coach Glen Mason back. :)

GO CATS!!!
-SjT

* * * * * * * * *
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sjtruog@yahoo.com
GO CATS!!! GEAUX SAINTS!!!
Super Bowl XLIV Champions!
==========================


--- On Fri, 2/4/11, Mike Nolan <nolan@romaine.tssi.com> wrote:

> From: Mike Nolan <nolan@romaine.tssi.com>
> Subject: Re: [NU Sports] When will we ever see another title ?
> To: "Tom Maycock" <tkmaycock@yahoo.com>
> Cc: cherron604@aol.com, nwu-sports@tssi.com
> Date: Friday, February 4, 2011, 12:47 PM
> In the 15 years that the Big XII held
> its championship game:
> 
> Nebraska represented the North division 6 times,
> Colorado represented the North division 4 times
> Kansas State represented the North division 3 times
> Missouri represented the North division 2 times
> 
> 2/3 of the teams in the North division made it to the
> championship gam
> at least once.? (And Iowa State came pretty close to
> it once.)? 
> 
> Oklahoma represented the South division 8 times
> Texas represented the South division 5 times
> Texas A&M represented the South division 2 times
> 
> 1/2 of the teams in the South division made it to the
> championship game
> at least once.? 
> 
> Would I be satisfied with Northwestern representing the
> "whatever 
> they called it division" of the Big Ten twice in the next
> 15 years?? 
> 
> Maybe.? I'd like to see us get there more frequently
> than that, though.
> --
> Mike Nolan
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From thehaze at earthlink.net  Fri Feb  4 22:49:57 2011
From: thehaze at earthlink.net (Jim Bendat)
Date: Fri Feb  4 22:50:21 2011
Subject: [NU Sports] TV for NU-Illinois game on Saturday
Message-ID: <14303993.1296881397907.JavaMail.root@wamui-june.atl.sa.earthlink.net>

The game is being carried regionally on CBS. It will be shown in the midwest, yet most of the country will get UCLA-St. John's. But, even if you live in an area not showing the NU game, you can still get it in two ways:

1. on www.cbssports.com
2. on channel 729 on DirecTV - if you have either the premium package or the sports package

Go Cats!

Jim B.

From Willie.Weinbaum at espn.com  Sat Feb  5 12:32:09 2011
From: Willie.Weinbaum at espn.com (Weinbaum, Willie)
Date: Sat Feb  5 12:36:18 2011
Subject: [NU Sports] so good to see this
In-Reply-To: <4B45F4FF31DB4E499E1CC3BBA76DA76C663CF117@XCHGBRS4.corp.espn.pvt>
References: <4e0ac.1e4258b0.3a514852@aol.com>
	<4B45F4FF31DB4E499E1CC3BBA76DA76C663CF117@XCHGBRS4.corp.espn.pvt>
Message-ID: <1F89BB2CE7A5B94D969618E8CC769CC30FF122D5@XCHGBRS4.corp.espn.pvt>

Shurna looks like himself - playing with confidence.  And so are the Cats.  It's early, but a 22-15 lead over the Illini is a helluva lot better than ANY of that disaster at Champaign.

From rstetson at capps-assoc.com  Sat Feb  5 12:57:42 2011
From: rstetson at capps-assoc.com (Roy S. Lamberton)
Date: Sat Feb  5 12:57:43 2011
Subject: [NU Sports] at the half....
Message-ID: <000001cbc566$916d8140$b44883c0$@com>

1. it seems like Shurna didn't get the memo about slowing down - we can't play at their
speed.
2. ticky tacky call on Luka, but he responds with some great play underneath
3. shouldn't foul Cobb at the end of the half.

We're ahead, now can we hold on...

rsl

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  Senior League Softball World Series
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From Willie.Weinbaum at espn.com  Sat Feb  5 12:56:52 2011
From: Willie.Weinbaum at espn.com (Weinbaum, Willie)
Date: Sat Feb  5 12:58:18 2011
Subject: [NU Sports] well...
In-Reply-To: <1F89BB2CE7A5B94D969618E8CC769CC30FF122D5@XCHGBRS4.corp.espn.pvt>
References: <4e0ac.1e4258b0.3a514852@aol.com>
	<4B45F4FF31DB4E499E1CC3BBA76DA76C663CF117@XCHGBRS4.corp.espn.pvt>
	<1F89BB2CE7A5B94D969618E8CC769CC30FF122D5@XCHGBRS4.corp.espn.pvt>
Message-ID: <1F89BB2CE7A5B94D969618E8CC769CC30FF122D9@XCHGBRS4.corp.espn.pvt>

Shurna tired, the Cats lost their shooting touch and the Illini caught up, after having trailed 18-7, but a nice flurry for a 35-29 NU lead at the half!

-----Original Message-----
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Sent: Saturday, February 05, 2011 1:32 PM
To: nwu-sports@tssi.com
Subject: [NU Sports] so good to see this

Shurna looks like himself - playing with confidence.  And so are the Cats.  It's early, but a 22-15 lead over the Illini is a helluva lot better than ANY of that disaster at Champaign.

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From rstetson at capps-assoc.com  Sat Feb  5 14:17:59 2011
From: rstetson at capps-assoc.com (Roy S. Lamberton)
Date: Sat Feb  5 14:18:01 2011
Subject: [NU Sports] Wildcats Win
Message-ID: <000101cbc571$c8efdbd0$5acf9370$@com>

On Luka's last freethrow and the Cats are back on the way, winning a 1 pointer

Shurna's not 100% back, but he did have 5 assists, including a dish off to Juice that
turned into 3

IL will be out of the top 25 after this one.

rsl



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Computer Applications & Support Associates
-------------------- Also ----------------------
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Director Media Relations - Little League 
  Senior League Softball World Series
CTRCS USN/USNR Retired
Northwestern University - Speech 1974 - 
Chi Phi: Pi 1974, KD 1968
Publisher Emeritus: Purple Reign (Fox Sports)
==========  Go Cats -? Beat 'em All  ===========
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From Willie.Weinbaum at espn.com  Sat Feb  5 14:17:01 2011
From: Willie.Weinbaum at espn.com (Weinbaum, Willie)
Date: Sat Feb  5 14:18:44 2011
Subject: [NU Sports] JUICE JUICE JUICE
In-Reply-To: <4B45F4FF31DB4E499E1CC3BBA76DA76C8B9F1FAE@XCHGBRS4.corp.espn.pvt>
References: <4e0ac.1e4258b0.3a514852@aol.com>
	<4B45F4FF31DB4E499E1CC3BBA76DA76C663CF117@XCHGBRS4.corp.espn.pvt>
	<1F89BB2CE7A5B94D969618E8CC769CC30FF122D5@XCHGBRS4.corp.espn.pvt>
	<4B45F4FF31DB4E499E1CC3BBA76DA76C8B9F1FAE@XCHGBRS4.corp.espn.pvt>
Message-ID: <1F89BB2CE7A5B94D969618E8CC769CC30FF122E6@XCHGBRS4.corp.espn.pvt>

Would've preferred it with a little more cushion, but...

SWEET revenge for the Champaign rout.

One game doesn't make a season, but this was a must.  And it'll be a sad day when Juice Thompson departs - what heart & guts.

From tkmaycock at yahoo.com  Sat Feb  5 14:21:31 2011
From: tkmaycock at yahoo.com (Tom Maycock)
Date: Sat Feb  5 14:21:35 2011
Subject: [NU Sports] Finally!
In-Reply-To: <1F89BB2CE7A5B94D969618E8CC769CC30FF122D5@XCHGBRS4.corp.espn.pvt>
References: <4e0ac.1e4258b0.3a514852@aol.com>
	<4B45F4FF31DB4E499E1CC3BBA76DA76C663CF117@XCHGBRS4.corp.espn.pvt>
	<1F89BB2CE7A5B94D969618E8CC769CC30FF122D5@XCHGBRS4.corp.espn.pvt>
Message-ID: <367361.8572.qm@web33103.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

NU actually secures the vital last rebound for a change!

What a difference hustle and communication on defense makes, eh? 

Great effort by everyone at different times. Huge impact early by Crawford and 
Cobb, and then Juice finishes it off. How does he manage to be as good or better 
at the end of the game despite never getting a breather?

Great to win one against the Illini. Boy, those close losses to MSU and OSU hurt 
all the more now though. We could so easily be 6-5 or 7-4 in the Big 10 right 
now, with some very winnable games ahead. But I'll just enjoy this one for a 
while. That was a very entertaining b-ball game. 

Tom

From rstetson at capps-assoc.com  Sat Feb  5 14:36:43 2011
From: rstetson at capps-assoc.com (Roy S. Lamberton)
Date: Sat Feb  5 14:36:57 2011
Subject: [NU Sports] Broadcast stuff after the game....
Message-ID: <000b01cbc574$67039f80$350ade80$@com>

1. it was really great to hear Tim Doyle as Dave's color man. He's played BC style
roundball, and really gets into the game.

2. They announced at the end that Craig Moore would be doing the next game as the color
guy. Another former player who knows BC and the slow down offense.

Now If I could only get WGN and the TV to synch up.

rsl

++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
Roy S. Lamberton - Senior Associate & Unix Guru.
Computer Applications & Support Associates
-------------------- Also ----------------------
"Commissioner" Delaware American Legion Baseball
Director Media Relations - Little League 
  Senior League Softball World Series
CTRCS USN/USNR Retired
Northwestern University - Speech 1974 - 
Chi Phi: Pi 1974, KD 1968
Publisher Emeritus: Purple Reign (Fox Sports)
==========  Go Cats -? Beat 'em All  ===========
"...Then I get on my knees and pray,
WE DON'T GET FOOLED AGAIN!" -- Pete Townsend
================================================




From cspnu81 at tds.net  Sat Feb  5 14:51:08 2011
From: cspnu81 at tds.net (Chris Patterson)
Date: Sat Feb  5 14:51:46 2011
Subject: FW: [NU Sports] Broadcast stuff after the game....
Message-ID: <002b01cbc576$6ab63550$40229ff0$@net>

The trick to synch up the TV and WGN is to get a DVR. 

Many times with these thrillers we will delay the DVR to synch up with WGN.
I usually have to resynch the two several times a game. And then re-watch
the victory to hear what the TV color guys say. 

Great to hear Doyle doing the color. He was getting into it.

And quite frankly, when the games are so close like this... I enjoy the
replay every bit as much as the live feed.

I highly recommend getting a DVR.

Go CATS!
Chris


-----Original Message-----
From: nwu-sports-bounces@tssi.com [mailto:nwu-sports-bounces@tssi.com] On
Behalf Of Roy S. Lamberton
Sent: Saturday, February 05, 2011 3:37 PM
To: nwu-sports@tssi.com
Subject: [NU Sports] Broadcast stuff after the game....

1. it was really great to hear Tim Doyle as Dave's color man. He's played BC
style
roundball, and really gets into the game.

2. They announced at the end that Craig Moore would be doing the next game
as the color
guy. Another former player who knows BC and the slow down offense.

Now If I could only get WGN and the TV to synch up.

rsl

++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
Roy S. Lamberton - Senior Associate & Unix Guru.
Computer Applications & Support Associates
-------------------- Also ----------------------
"Commissioner" Delaware American Legion Baseball
Director Media Relations - Little League 
  Senior League Softball World Series
CTRCS USN/USNR Retired
Northwestern University - Speech 1974 - 
Chi Phi: Pi 1974, KD 1968
Publisher Emeritus: Purple Reign (Fox Sports)
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From Jeff.Beamsley at covisint.com  Sat Feb  5 15:20:36 2011
From: Jeff.Beamsley at covisint.com (Beamsley, Jeff)
Date: Sat Feb  5 15:21:04 2011
Subject: [NU Sports] Finally!
References: <4e0ac.1e4258b0.3a514852@aol.com><4B45F4FF31DB4E499E1CC3BBA76DA76C663CF117@XCHGBRS4.corp.espn.pvt><1F89BB2CE7A5B94D969618E8CC769CC30FF122D5@XCHGBRS4.corp.espn.pvt>
	<367361.8572.qm@web33103.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <FA7822545C26F244823CA5D312ABBDEA04B80158@nasa-dtw-ex006.nasa.cpwr.corp>

This team really needed this win.  it showed a lot of guts and pride.
 
Loved Luka's attitude and the way the team responded to what seemed like it should have been a no call at the end of the first half.
 
At least for this game, our big guys were able to handle their big guys.  We got the critical rebounds.  And we did it with only half a Shurna on the floor.  Fortunately we had a double dose of Juice to take up the slack.
 
It will be interesting to see what we can do if we get a full Shurna for the remaining games.
 
Jeff


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From: nwu-sports-bounces@tssi.com on behalf of Tom Maycock
Sent: Sat 2/5/2011 3:21 PM
To: nwu-sports@tssi.com
Subject: [NU Sports] Finally!



NU actually secures the vital last rebound for a change!

What a difference hustle and communication on defense makes, eh?

Great effort by everyone at different times. Huge impact early by Crawford and
Cobb, and then Juice finishes it off. How does he manage to be as good or better
at the end of the game despite never getting a breather?

Great to win one against the Illini. Boy, those close losses to MSU and OSU hurt
all the more now though. We could so easily be 6-5 or 7-4 in the Big 10 right
now, with some very winnable games ahead. But I'll just enjoy this one for a
while. That was a very entertaining b-ball game.

Tom

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From rstetson at capps-assoc.com  Sat Feb  5 15:23:24 2011
From: rstetson at capps-assoc.com (Roy S. Lamberton)
Date: Sat Feb  5 15:23:25 2011
Subject: [NU Sports] Broadcast stuff after the game....
In-Reply-To: <1F89BB2CE7A5B94D969618E8CC769CC30F934BBA@XCHGBRS4.corp.espn.pvt>
References: <000b01cbc574$67039f80$350ade80$@com>
	<1F89BB2CE7A5B94D969618E8CC769CC30F934BBA@XCHGBRS4.corp.espn.pvt>
Message-ID: <000c01cbc57a$ec1a4e20$c44eea60$@com>

Well, they only do one game of ours every 100 years or so, so you figure them to make a
few goofs <g>

For the listers: I'd get a DVR but I?m a big believer in mental projection of my cheering,
so if I listen on a delay of 10-15 secs, the play could be over before I even get into it.

No, I'll stick with my "instant verbal replay" system, besides when a color man like Doyle
or Morris is working, their comments usually time out with the replay so I win all the way
around.

I am also taking partial credit for 1. Suggesting in my column last week that we continue
to slow down, and 2. I changed into my "lucky" purple golf shirt for the 2nd half.

And who let that Orange Clad Yahoo into the Wild Bunch?

rsl

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Computer Applications & Support Associates
-------------------- Also ----------------------
"Commissioner" Delaware American Legion Baseball
Director Media Relations - Little League 
  Senior League Softball World Series
CTRCS USN/USNR Retired
Northwestern University - Speech 1974 - 
Chi Phi: Pi 1974, KD 1968
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================================================


-----Original Message-----
From: Weinbaum, Willie [mailto:Willie.Weinbaum@espn.com] 
Sent: Saturday, February 05, 2011 3:51 PM
To: 'rstetson@capps-assoc.com'
Subject: Re: [NU Sports] Broadcast stuff after the game....

I don't recall having heard a more mistake-riddled network TV broadcast.  Brando made
repeated mistakes on names, with Curletti becoming Capocci for most of the game and many
other repeated errors.

>From Blackberry - please excuse typos

W. Weinbaum
Producer
212-916-9864 (24-hour voicemail)
willie.weinbaum@espn.com

----- Original Message -----
From: nwu-sports-bounces@tssi.com <nwu-sports-bounces@tssi.com>
To: nwu-sports@tssi.com <nwu-sports@tssi.com>
Sent: Sat Feb 05 15:36:43 2011
Subject: [NU Sports] Broadcast stuff after the game....

1. it was really great to hear Tim Doyle as Dave's color man. He's played BC style
roundball, and really gets into the game.

2. They announced at the end that Craig Moore would be doing the next game as the color
guy. Another former player who knows BC and the slow down offense.

Now If I could only get WGN and the TV to synch up.

rsl

++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
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Computer Applications & Support Associates
-------------------- Also ----------------------
"Commissioner" Delaware American Legion Baseball
Director Media Relations - Little League
  Senior League Softball World Series
CTRCS USN/USNR Retired
Northwestern University - Speech 1974 -
Chi Phi: Pi 1974, KD 1968
Publisher Emeritus: Purple Reign (Fox Sports)
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From Jeff.Beamsley at covisint.com  Sat Feb  5 15:26:25 2011
From: Jeff.Beamsley at covisint.com (Beamsley, Jeff)
Date: Sat Feb  5 15:27:39 2011
Subject: [NU Sports] Broadcast stuff after the game....
References: <000b01cbc574$67039f80$350ade80$@com><1F89BB2CE7A5B94D969618E8CC769CC30F934BBA@XCHGBRS4.corp.espn.pvt>
	<000c01cbc57a$ec1a4e20$c44eea60$@com>
Message-ID: <FA7822545C26F244823CA5D312ABBDEA04B8015B@nasa-dtw-ex006.nasa.cpwr.corp>

 
Coach wrote <snip>

And who let that Orange Clad Yahoo into the Wild Bunch?

==========

Looked lilke somebody's brother.

Jeff




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From: Weinbaum, Willie [mailto:Willie.Weinbaum@espn.com]
Sent: Saturday, February 05, 2011 3:51 PM
To: 'rstetson@capps-assoc.com'
Subject: Re: [NU Sports] Broadcast stuff after the game....

I don't recall having heard a more mistake-riddled network TV broadcast.  Brando made
repeated mistakes on names, with Curletti becoming Capocci for most of the game and many
other repeated errors.

>From Blackberry - please excuse typos

W. Weinbaum
Producer
212-916-9864 (24-hour voicemail)
willie.weinbaum@espn.com

----- Original Message -----
From: nwu-sports-bounces@tssi.com <nwu-sports-bounces@tssi.com>
To: nwu-sports@tssi.com <nwu-sports@tssi.com>
Sent: Sat Feb 05 15:36:43 2011
Subject: [NU Sports] Broadcast stuff after the game....

1. it was really great to hear Tim Doyle as Dave's color man. He's played BC style
roundball, and really gets into the game.

2. They announced at the end that Craig Moore would be doing the next game as the color
guy. Another former player who knows BC and the slow down offense.

Now If I could only get WGN and the TV to synch up.

rsl

++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
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Computer Applications & Support Associates
-------------------- Also ----------------------
"Commissioner" Delaware American Legion Baseball
Director Media Relations - Little League
  Senior League Softball World Series
CTRCS USN/USNR Retired
Northwestern University - Speech 1974 -
Chi Phi: Pi 1974, KD 1968
Publisher Emeritus: Purple Reign (Fox Sports)
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From Willie.Weinbaum at espn.com  Sat Feb  5 17:41:37 2011
From: Willie.Weinbaum at espn.com (Weinbaum, Willie)
Date: Sat Feb  5 17:42:55 2011
Subject: [NU Sports] Broadcast stuff after the game....
In-Reply-To: <000c01cbc57a$ec1a4e20$c44eea60$@com>
Message-ID: <1F89BB2CE7A5B94D969618E8CC769CC30F934BC3@XCHGBRS4.corp.espn.pvt>

NU's undefeated on CBS. :)

>From Blackberry - please excuse typos

W. Weinbaum
Producer
212-916-9864 (24-hour voicemail)
willie.weinbaum@espn.com

----- Original Message -----
From: Roy S. Lamberton <rstetson@capps-assoc.com>
To: Weinbaum, Willie
Cc: nwu-sports@tssi.com <nwu-sports@tssi.com>
Sent: Sat Feb 05 16:23:24 2011Subject: RE: [NU Sports] Broadcast stuff after the game....

Well, they only do one game of ours every 100 years or so, so you figure them to make a
few goofs <g>

For the listers: I'd get a DVR but I?m a big believer in mental projection of my cheering,
so if I listen on a delay of 10-15 secs, the play could be over before I even get into it.

No, I'll stick with my "instant verbal replay" system, besides when a color man like Doyle
or Morris is working, their comments usually time out with the replay so I win all the way
around.

I am also taking partial credit for 1. Suggesting in my column last week that we continue
to slow down, and 2. I changed into my "lucky" purple golf shirt for the 2nd half.

And who let that Orange Clad Yahoo into the Wild Bunch?

rsl

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-----Original Message-----
From: Weinbaum, Willie [mailto:Willie.Weinbaum@espn.com] 
Sent: Saturday, February 05, 2011 3:51 PM
To: 'rstetson@capps-assoc.com'
Subject: Re: [NU Sports] Broadcast stuff after the game....

I don't recall having heard a more mistake-riddled network TV broadcast.  Brando made
repeated mistakes on names, with Curletti becoming Capocci for most of the game and many
other repeated errors.

>From Blackberry - please excuse typos

W. Weinbaum
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Subject: [NU Sports] Broadcast stuff after the game....

1. it was really great to hear Tim Doyle as Dave's color man. He's played BC style
roundball, and really gets into the game.

2. They announced at the end that Craig Moore would be doing the next game as the color
guy. Another former player who knows BC and the slow down offense.

Now If I could only get WGN and the TV to synch up.

rsl

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From Willie.Weinbaum at espn.com  Sun Feb  6 06:13:28 2011
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Date: Sun Feb  6 06:18:57 2011
Subject: [NU Sports] CBS announcers' recap of NU game
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From Jeff.Beamsley at covisint.com  Sun Feb  6 09:21:33 2011
From: Jeff.Beamsley at covisint.com (Beamsley, Jeff)
Date: Sun Feb  6 09:21:58 2011
Subject: [NU Sports] CBS announcers' recap of NU game
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Really hope that the Illinois win provides momentum for the rest of the season. Beating PSU twice may be a real challenge. 

Jeff

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From neonrye at aol.com  Sun Feb  6 09:33:33 2011
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Date: Sun Feb  6 09:32:22 2011
Subject: [NU Sports] CBS announcers' recap of NU game
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Beating them once has historically been an insurmountable challenge, but who knows?  Maybe this is the year for a "twin-killing".
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Really hope that the Illinois win provides momentum for the rest of the season. Beating PSU twice may be a real challenge. 

Jeff

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From Willie.Weinbaum at espn.com  Sun Feb  6 10:03:04 2011
From: Willie.Weinbaum at espn.com (Weinbaum, Willie)
Date: Sun Feb  6 10:04:26 2011
Subject: [NU Sports] CBS announcers' recap of NU game
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PSU/Mich/Iowa/Indiana/NU all look at the others in the group as the must-win games this year to make it a special season.  The Cats haven't lost to any of 'em yet and simply can't do so and still have a special season, especially given the losses already.  And another upset win is likely a must, too.  One down, a lot to go... :)

>From Blackberry - please excuse typos

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Beating them once has historically been an insurmountable challenge, but who knows?  Maybe this is the year for a "twin-killing".
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Really hope that the Illinois win provides momentum for the rest of the season. Beating PSU twice may be a real challenge.

Jeff

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From wildelk2 at aol.com  Sun Feb  6 14:59:09 2011
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Date: Sun Feb  6 14:59:21 2011
Subject: [NU Sports] Finally!
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   Take a peak at the Big 10 standings after Michigan's win at Penn St.  Michigan and NU have rejuvenated their seasons, particularly U of M, who have won 3 of 4.  Both NU and Mich. have close losses last week to Ohio State.  WE both sit at 4-7 in conference with Mich St. and Penn ST. at 5-6 unraveling at the seams.  MSU and PSU play next week; obviously we want Penn St. to win as we've lost to MSU twice.  
   I'll be the first to say it.  Things will get REAL interesting if we can beat Michigan.  Every game is a must; I think 20 wins were in, regardless of whether they are in regular season or conference tournement.  So that leaves only1, maybe 2 losses the rest of the way.   Shurna needs to be 80,90 percent, not 50 percent, but Juice did what he should do- put the team on his back.  
   Even Joe Lunardi relented, saying NU is a bubble team by virtue of PSU and MSU falling apart.   This will be a fun 3,4 weeks and hopefully longer!


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Sent: Sat, Feb 5, 2011 10:21 am
Subject: [NU Sports] Finally!


NU actually secures the vital last rebound for a change!

What a difference hustle and communication on defense makes, eh? 

Great effort by everyone at different times. Huge impact early by Crawford and 
Cobb, and then Juice finishes it off. How does he manage to be as good or better 

at the end of the game despite never getting a breather?

Great to win one against the Illini. Boy, those close losses to MSU and OSU hurt 

all the more now though. We could so easily be 6-5 or 7-4 in the Big 10 right 
now, with some very winnable games ahead. But I'll just enjoy this one for a 
while. That was a very entertaining b-ball game. 

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From sjtruog at yahoo.com  Sun Feb  6 16:43:21 2011
From: sjtruog at yahoo.com (SjT (Stephen J. Truog))
Date: Sun Feb  6 16:43:38 2011
Subject: [NU Sports] Finally!
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> Big 10 standings after Michigan's win at Penn St.?
> Michigan and NU have rejuvenated their seasons, particularly

It's looking awfully messy. Sure would have been nice to get that win over OSU on our resume to stand out a bit ...

> 4-7 in conference with Mich St. and Penn ST. at 5-6
> unraveling at the seams.? MSU and PSU play next week;
> obviously we want Penn St. to win as we've lost to MSU
> twice.? 

Yeah, normally you'd think it's good to get Sparty twice early in the schedule before they get in tourney mode, but this year you'd like to be playing MSU late.

> ???I'll be the first to say it.? Things
> will get REAL interesting if we can beat Michigan.?
> Every game is a must; I think 20 wins were in, regardless of

Exactly - we simply must win the games against unranked teams. PSU, Michigan, Indiana, Iowa - none are gimmes, but all are musts. Right now our best selling point is that we have no "bad losses" - can't let that change and we gotta add a "quality win" or two.

One thing's for sure, the tourney should be pretty interesting for teams five through nine in Indy this year.

One game at a time!
GO CATS!!!
-SjT


      

From cherron604 at aol.com  Mon Feb  7 09:58:33 2011
From: cherron604 at aol.com (cherron604@aol.com)
Date: Mon Feb  7 09:59:04 2011
Subject: [NU Sports] When will we ever see another title ?
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I guess the 2nd part of my question was:

Are we left with 2 choices - contend for championships, but miss a bowl game some seasons, or

Make a bowl game every year, but fall into that 6-6, 7-5 range that we seem to  be in at present

I would also like to think that we could consistently make bowls, and during that time, also contend for league titles

Chuck Herron,  Tech '85






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Subject: Re: [NU Sports] When will we ever see another title ?


In the 15 years that the Big XII held its championship game:
Nebraska represented the North division 6 times,
olorado represented the North division 4 times
ansas State represented the North division 3 times
issouri represented the North division 2 times
2/3 of the teams in the North division made it to the championship gam
t least once.  (And Iowa State came pretty close to it once.)  
Oklahoma represented the South division 8 times
exas represented the South division 5 times
exas A&M represented the South division 2 times
1/2 of the teams in the South division made it to the championship game
t least once.  
Would I be satisfied with Northwestern representing the "whatever 
hey called it division" of the Big Ten twice in the next 15 years?  
Maybe.  I'd like to see us get there more frequently than that, though.
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From sjtruog at yahoo.com  Mon Feb  7 10:24:14 2011
From: sjtruog at yahoo.com (SjT (Stephen J. Truog))
Date: Mon Feb  7 10:24:31 2011
Subject: [NU Sports] When will we ever see another title ?
In-Reply-To: <8CD94F7019DD348-1E20-17224@webmail-d039.sysops.aol.com>
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> I guess the 2nd part of my question was:
> Are we left with 2 choices - contend for championships, but
> miss a bowl game some seasons, or
> Make a bowl game every year, but fall into that 6-6, 7-5
> range that we seem to? be in at present

Well, you're right - there is a third area combining the two, but that's a place Northwestern has not been yet.

Barnett and Walker won league titles but couldn't put together a consistent winner (though Walker was getting to that 6-6, 7-5 level at the end).

Fitz has put together a consistent winner (at a slightly higher lever of 8, maybe 9, wins) but no league titles.

I think the former is more memorable for fans, but the latter is tougher to do - especially in the Big Ten.

The next step is obviously combining the two, but it's tough. Fitz has established NU as a consistent bowl team, which may not be as flashy as the Purple to Pasadena, but is a remarkable achievement. Now we gotta start combining the consistent wins over unranked foes from the last few years with some of the head-turning wins over top-ranked foes that we had in the 90s.

And to answer your question, yes, I believe NU can get there. Even in the new divisional format.

GO CATS!!!
-SjT


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GO CATS!!! GEAUX SAINTS!!!
Super Bowl XLIV Champions!
==========================


      

From rstetson at capps-assoc.com  Mon Feb  7 11:02:11 2011
From: rstetson at capps-assoc.com (Roy S. Lamberton)
Date: Mon Feb  7 11:02:15 2011
Subject: [NU Sports] When will we ever see another title ?
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When I talked to Walker after the Spring Game (or was it a practice inside), he said that
he was getting tired of just finishing at .500.

Not sure if that was coach speak, RW just getting frustrated, or RW hoping to put some
pressure on the Seniors. (and I don't remember if that was the Spring before he died or
the year before that.)

Walker had won a piece of the Big 10, but did it mainly with kids recruited by Barnet.
This year marks the graduation of the last of the Walker era recruits, altho Fitz, as
recruiting coordinator, had a big hand in landing many of those kids. The 2011 Wildcats
will be 100% Fitzgerald's team, and I think you can sense a feeling of "at last" in some
of Fitz' remarks.

His comment about the no-star recruit is classic, altho I don't think there were stars
awarded when he was in HS. You were either Blue Chip, or Div I material. Jim Heckman was
the guy who pushed the star system on the original Rivals network.

Early on, one of the Rivals sites did a study on 5 vs 4 vs 3 star recruits and how they
performed in 5 years of college. As I recall, the 5 star guys usually did well, altho
nowhere near the 90% success you'd think. 

I'll stick with my old comment, "Ask me in 3 years"



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Sent: Monday, February 07, 2011 11:24 AM
To: cherron604@aol.com
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Subject: Re: [NU Sports] When will we ever see another title ?

> I guess the 2nd part of my question was:
> Are we left with 2 choices - contend for championships, but
> miss a bowl game some seasons, or
> Make a bowl game every year, but fall into that 6-6, 7-5
> range that we seem to? be in at present

Well, you're right - there is a third area combining the two, but that's a place
Northwestern has not been yet.

Barnett and Walker won league titles but couldn't put together a consistent winner (though
Walker was getting to that 6-6, 7-5 level at the end).

Fitz has put together a consistent winner (at a slightly higher lever of 8, maybe 9, wins)
but no league titles.

I think the former is more memorable for fans, but the latter is tougher to do -
especially in the Big Ten.

The next step is obviously combining the two, but it's tough. Fitz has established NU as a
consistent bowl team, which may not be as flashy as the Purple to Pasadena, but is a
remarkable achievement. Now we gotta start combining the consistent wins over unranked
foes from the last few years with some of the head-turning wins over top-ranked foes that
we had in the 90s.

And to answer your question, yes, I believe NU can get there. Even in the new divisional
format.

GO CATS!!!
-SjT


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From Jeff.Beamsley at covisint.com  Mon Feb  7 11:29:16 2011
From: Jeff.Beamsley at covisint.com (Beamsley, Jeff)
Date: Mon Feb  7 11:29:34 2011
Subject: [NU Sports] When will we ever see another title ?
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Here's another of those times that I agree with Dennis.

The boom and bust cycles of GB were the result of weak recruiting.  RW got the benefit of the players GB was able to recruit because of the '95 and '96 teams.  The Wheeler incident limited RW's ability to recruit.

Fitz is a better recruiter than both of his mentors.  Evidence is our ability to reload with Persa in what otherwise would have been a rebuilding year.

I don't think that we've seen the upper limit of what Fitz and his coaches can accomplish with regard to recruiting.  

As a result, I don't see any downside to the divisional structure.

All that we have is another goal added to the list.  Win the division. Win the BT. Win the bowl game.  Be national champs.

Jeff
 


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> I guess the 2nd part of my question was:
> Are we left with 2 choices - contend for championships, but
> miss a bowl game some seasons, or
> Make a bowl game every year, but fall into that 6-6, 7-5
> range that we seem to  be in at present

Well, you're right - there is a third area combining the two, but that's a place Northwestern has not been yet.

Barnett and Walker won league titles but couldn't put together a consistent winner (though Walker was getting to that 6-6, 7-5 level at the end).

Fitz has put together a consistent winner (at a slightly higher lever of 8, maybe 9, wins) but no league titles.

I think the former is more memorable for fans, but the latter is tougher to do - especially in the Big Ten.

The next step is obviously combining the two, but it's tough. Fitz has established NU as a consistent bowl team, which may not be as flashy as the Purple to Pasadena, but is a remarkable achievement. Now we gotta start combining the consistent wins over unranked foes from the last few years with some of the head-turning wins over top-ranked foes that we had in the 90s.

And to answer your question, yes, I believe NU can get there. Even in the new divisional format.

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From tbng at comcast.net  Mon Feb  7 12:00:52 2011
From: tbng at comcast.net (Dennis W. Brandt)
Date: Mon Feb  7 12:01:02 2011
Subject: [NU Sports] When will we ever see another title ?
References: <8CD94F7019DD348-1E20-17224@webmail-d039.sysops.aol.com><658605.7745.qm@web121705.mail.ne1.yahoo.com>
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> The 2011 Wildcats will be 100% Fitzgerald's team, and I think you can 
> sense a feeling of "at last" in some
> of Fitz' remarks.

I seem to recall that Randy Walker had something to do with recruiting Dan 
Persa.  Give that Dan will be a fifth-year senior this season, that is 
possible. 

From Willie.Weinbaum at espn.com  Wed Feb  9 08:38:47 2011
From: Willie.Weinbaum at espn.com (Weinbaum, Willie)
Date: Wed Feb  9 08:40:16 2011
Subject: [NU Sports] poignant story - former NU baseball star
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http://www.boston.com/sports/baseball/redsox/articles/2011/02/09/ex_hurler_focusing_on_saves/?page=full


From jleonard518 at yahoo.com  Sun Feb 13 19:53:34 2011
From: jleonard518 at yahoo.com (Jim Leonard)
Date: Sun Feb 13 19:53:51 2011
Subject: [NU Sports] 41 points at PSU
Message-ID: <635691.20526.qm@web36808.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

Is there anyone left out there that wants to see Bill Carmody come back for a 
12th season?

Go Cats!
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From artmiller_news at yahoo.com  Mon Feb 14 09:11:35 2011
From: artmiller_news at yahoo.com (Arthur Miller)
Date: Mon Feb 14 09:11:39 2011
Subject: [NU Sports] silence on the NU list
Message-ID: <813524.82308.qm@web113717.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>

In the wake of yesterday's massacre, I observe that the members of this list 
were taught well by their mothers--particularly, "if you?don't have something 
nice?to say, don't say anything at all".


      

From Jeff.Beamsley at covisint.com  Mon Feb 14 09:26:24 2011
From: Jeff.Beamsley at covisint.com (Beamsley, Jeff)
Date: Mon Feb 14 09:26:45 2011
Subject: [NU Sports] silence on the NU list
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Dreams generally die silently.

I think all of us knew that this team would only go as far as Shurna and Thompson could carry them.  Juice has certainly done his part.

You can't blame Shurna for his injuries, but the bottom line is that the rest of the team has been unable to consistently take up the slack for his reduced effectiveness.  You can blame Carmody for having a thin bench, but then you also have to give him credit for putting together a competitive team with far less than many of our competitors had in terms of talent.

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From nolan at romaine.tssi.com  Mon Feb 14 09:51:14 2011
From: nolan at romaine.tssi.com (Mike Nolan)
Date: Mon Feb 14 09:51:15 2011
Subject: [NU Sports] 41 points at PSU
In-Reply-To: <635691.20526.qm@web36808.mail.mud.yahoo.com> from "Jim Leonard"
	at Feb 13, 2011 05:53:34 PM
Message-ID: <201102141551.p1EFpERl021173@romaine.tssi.com>

> Is there anyone left out there that wants to see Bill Carmody come back for a 
> 12th season?

Can you convince me that:

1.  Someone else would be able to do a better job.
2.  Someone worth having would be willing to take the job.
3.  NU is willing to devote the resources needed to do a better job.

If not, then why spend money firing a coach who is probably doing
about as good as can be expected given #3, and hire a new one?

Sorry to say, but I don't think NU basketball has improved 
significantly since 1995 (pre Carmody), and is still stuck in 
the same mentality that football had throughout most of the 
70's and 80's, and we know how those teams fared.  

I'm glad I'm not the AD at Northwestern.
--
Mike Nolan

From sportsbiz at gmail.com  Mon Feb 14 09:53:28 2011
From: sportsbiz at gmail.com (Sportsbiz)
Date: Mon Feb 14 09:53:53 2011
Subject: [NU Sports] 41 points at PSU
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and 4. Do you have the money to buy out his newly signed extension and still
have the money to do 1,2 and 3 when resources has been a major impediment to
recruiting as it is.

On Mon, Feb 14, 2011 at 10:51 AM, Mike Nolan <nolan@romaine.tssi.com> wrote:

> > Is there anyone left out there that wants to see Bill Carmody come back
> for a
> > 12th season?
>
> Can you convince me that:
>
> 1.  Someone else would be able to do a better job.
> 2.  Someone worth having would be willing to take the job.
> 3.  NU is willing to devote the resources needed to do a better job.
>
> If not, then why spend money firing a coach who is probably doing
> about as good as can be expected given #3, and hire a new one?
>
> Sorry to say, but I don't think NU basketball has improved
> significantly since 1995 (pre Carmody), and is still stuck in
> the same mentality that football had throughout most of the
> 70's and 80's, and we know how those teams fared.
>
> I'm glad I'm not the AD at Northwestern.
> --
> Mike Nolan
>
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From Jeff.Beamsley at covisint.com  Mon Feb 14 10:21:49 2011
From: Jeff.Beamsley at covisint.com (Beamsley, Jeff)
Date: Mon Feb 14 10:21:59 2011
Subject: [NU Sports] 41 points at PSU
In-Reply-To: <201102141551.p1EFpERl021173@romaine.tssi.com>
References: <635691.20526.qm@web36808.mail.mud.yahoo.com> from "Jim Leonard"at
	Feb 13,
	2011 05:53:34 PM <201102141551.p1EFpERl021173@romaine.tssi.com>
Message-ID: <FA7822545C26F244823CA5D312ABBDEA0695A21F@nasa-dtw-ex006.nasa.cpwr.corp>

I agree.

I also think that the challenges of turning the program around are
greater than with football for the following reasons.

1. There are more smart football players than smart basketball players.
2. There is more national competition for those smart basketball players
from our peer academic schools than in football.
3. Kids who go to Duke and Stanford have a chance to play in the NBA.
Kids who go to Northwestern don't.

The good news is that it only takes on special kid to turn a program
around.  The problem is that those special kids get highly recruited.  

Carmody came with a Euro recruiting conduit, but it hasn't produced any
of the sort of players that could turn the program around.  

We need a coach that can recruit that special kid from the Chicago area
and in the meantime keep making incremental progress with the program
every year.

Carmody can make incremental progress getting the most out of under
recruited kids.  Don't know if he is the guy who will be able to
out-recruit all of our competitors for our "Mark Aguirre".

Jeff


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From: nwu-sports-bounces@tssi.com [mailto:nwu-sports-bounces@tssi.com]
On Behalf Of Mike Nolan
Sent: Monday, February 14, 2011 10:51 AM
To: Jim Leonard
Cc: Northwestern Wildcats
Subject: Re: [NU Sports] 41 points at PSU

> Is there anyone left out there that wants to see Bill Carmody come
back for a 
> 12th season?

Can you convince me that:

1.  Someone else would be able to do a better job.
2.  Someone worth having would be willing to take the job.
3.  NU is willing to devote the resources needed to do a better job.

If not, then why spend money firing a coach who is probably doing
about as good as can be expected given #3, and hire a new one?

Sorry to say, but I don't think NU basketball has improved 
significantly since 1995 (pre Carmody), and is still stuck in 
the same mentality that football had throughout most of the 
70's and 80's, and we know how those teams fared.  

I'm glad I'm not the AD at Northwestern.
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From martinitis at aol.com  Mon Feb 14 11:31:38 2011
From: martinitis at aol.com (Louis Martinaitis)
Date: Mon Feb 14 11:32:14 2011
Subject: [NU Sports] 41 points at PSU
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References: <201102141551.p1EFpERl021173@romaine.tssi.com>
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> 1.  Someone else would be able to do a better job.


Well, I'll try by:

1. Pointing out that we WERE able to find a Barnett.

2.  Simply reiterating my last post regarding Coble.

Most all of the feel good revival/under dog stories in sports include a coach who can inspire teams and has the ability to bring the best out of individuals that may someone els's  problem child. 

In our case I believe Carmody allowed Coble to become a problem child. So even when after 11 years when he finally assembles a cast of players capable of the dance, he blows it.  A great coach would have found away to keep his team together. 

Then NU is a 3 headed monster. Shirk doesn't have to rush back too soon. Lots of stuff, and

3.  Having our AD signal that NU is devoted to making NU a perennial Big 10 contender and making a coaching change Now.  I don't know if Tavaras is the answer, but give him a chance see if he can make a run to close the season and how far he takes the team in the Big 10 Tourney. If he turns it around, start by giving him a chance next year (I understand he's supposed to be a great recruiter). If there is no significant difference go shop for that great coach that ain't great yet.

We did it in football. And that's gotta be tougher than B Ball.
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On Feb 14, 2011, at 7:51 AM, Mike Nolan <nolan@romaine.tssi.com> wrote:

>> Is there anyone left out there that wants to see Bill Carmody come back for a 
>> 12th season?
> 
> Can you convince me that:
> 
> 1.  Someone else would be able to do a better job.
> 2.  Someone worth having would be willing to take the job.
> 3.  NU is willing to devote the resources needed to do a better job.
> 
> If not, then why spend money firing a coach who is probably doing
> about as good as can be expected given #3, and hire a new one?
> 
> Sorry to say, but I don't think NU basketball has improved 
> significantly since 1995 (pre Carmody), and is still stuck in 
> the same mentality that football had throughout most of the 
> 70's and 80's, and we know how those teams fared.  
> 
> I'm glad I'm not the AD at Northwestern.
> --
> Mike Nolan
> 
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From Jeff.Beamsley at covisint.com  Mon Feb 14 12:12:18 2011
From: Jeff.Beamsley at covisint.com (Beamsley, Jeff)
Date: Mon Feb 14 12:12:50 2011
Subject: [NU Sports] 41 points at PSU
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	<2E0B5F52-B93F-41E3-AC1F-36795E886732@aol.com>
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Lou wrote <snip>

In our case I believe Carmody allowed Coble to become a problem child.
So even when after 11 years when he finally assembles a cast of players
capable of the dance, he blows it.  A great coach would have found away
to keep his team together. 

=================================

Disagree.

Coble was high maintenance pretty much from the start.  That may not be
his fault or Carmody's fault.  Sometimes stuff (like your mom diagnosed
with cancer and you getting injured) just happens and everybody has to
deal with it the best they can.

A great coach has the character to keep the good of the team a higher
priority than the desires of any one player even when that means that
the team may be less competitive.  

Did anybody question Tom Izzo's release of Korie Lucious?  Clearly they
are a weaker team now and may not make the NCAA tourney.

I don't know what went on between Carmody and Coble.

What I do know is that Carmody isn't stupid.  He knew what the loss of
Coble meant to this team.  He also made this decision before he got a
contract extension, so I'm sure he was aware of the professional risk he
was taking too.  I'm fairly certain that he doesn't have a death wish,
so I suspect that it was something that he saw coming for a while.  

You are also assuming that if Carmody had accommodated Coble, that the
rest of the season would have been hearts and roses.  It could also have
just as easily been just the first of a series of ultimatums that would
have ended up in the same place.

I'm not suggesting that Carmody is a great coach, but I am saying that
with the information we have, he got this particular decision right and
that every coach that we DO consider great would have done exactly the
same thing.

Jeff






On Feb 14, 2011, at 7:51 AM, Mike Nolan <nolan@romaine.tssi.com> wrote:

>> Is there anyone left out there that wants to see Bill Carmody come
back for a 
>> 12th season?
> 
> Can you convince me that:
> 
> 1.  Someone else would be able to do a better job.
> 2.  Someone worth having would be willing to take the job.
> 3.  NU is willing to devote the resources needed to do a better job.
> 
> If not, then why spend money firing a coach who is probably doing
> about as good as can be expected given #3, and hire a new one?
> 
> Sorry to say, but I don't think NU basketball has improved 
> significantly since 1995 (pre Carmody), and is still stuck in 
> the same mentality that football had throughout most of the 
> 70's and 80's, and we know how those teams fared.  
> 
> I'm glad I'm not the AD at Northwestern.
> --
> Mike Nolan
> 
> 
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From hakirsch at aol.com  Mon Feb 14 12:15:49 2011
From: hakirsch at aol.com (hakirsch@aol.com)
Date: Mon Feb 14 12:15:06 2011
Subject: [NU Sports] 41 points at PSU
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I will re-iterate my key thought that I throw in every year. NU has tried everything vis a vis coaching in the 35 years I have followed them. They had a big name from a big time school (Foster-Duke). They tried an African American coach where it was felt he could make better inroads to African american players than we had in the past. (Byrdsong) They got coaches from good academic programs where it was felt they had experience in recruiting and coaching the smart basketball players Vandy/Princeton). Nothing  has worked for us. It obviously isn't easy and that is an understatement.  You need more than one strong player. Aguire had Skip Dillard,Terry Cummings,(I believe 3 first rounders) and Bernard Randolph and they only made it past the first round 1 of his 3 years at DePaul !

I don't know the answer and doubt  our AD,President,,or any of us know it either

Harry
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From: Louis Martinaitis <martinitis@aol.com>
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To: Mike Nolan<nolan@romaine.tssi.com>
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Subject: Re: [NU Sports] 41 points at PSU

> 1.  Someone else would be able to do a better job.


Well, I'll try by:

1. Pointing out that we WERE able to find a Barnett.

2.  Simply reiterating my last post regarding Coble.

Most all of the feel good revival/under dog stories in sports include a coach who can inspire teams and has the ability to bring the best out of individuals that may someone els's  problem child. 

In our case I believe Carmody allowed Coble to become a problem child. So even when after 11 years when he finally assembles a cast of players capable of the dance, he blows it.  A great coach would have found away to keep his team together. 

Then NU is a 3 headed monster. Shirk doesn't have to rush back too soon. Lots of stuff, and

3.  Having our AD signal that NU is devoted to making NU a perennial Big 10 contender and making a coaching change Now.  I don't know if Tavaras is the answer, but give him a chance see if he can make a run to close the season and how far he takes the team in the Big 10 Tourney. If he turns it around, start by giving him a chance next year (I understand he's supposed to be a great recruiter). If there is no significant difference go shop for that great coach that ain't great yet.

We did it in football. And that's gotta be tougher than B Ball.
Sent from my iPhone

On Feb 14, 2011, at 7:51 AM, Mike Nolan <nolan@romaine.tssi.com> wrote:

>> Is there anyone left out there that wants to see Bill Carmody come back for a 
>> 12th season?
> 
> Can you convince me that:
> 
> 1.  Someone else would be able to do a better job.
> 2.  Someone worth having would be willing to take the job.
> 3.  NU is willing to devote the resources needed to do a better job.
> 
> If not, then why spend money firing a coach who is probably doing
> about as good as can be expected given #3, and hire a new one?
> 
> Sorry to say, but I don't think NU basketball has improved 
> significantly since 1995 (pre Carmody), and is still stuck in 
> the same mentality that football had throughout most of the 
> 70's and 80's, and we know how those teams fared.  
> 
> I'm glad I'm not the AD at Northwestern.
> --
> Mike Nolan
> 
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From Martinitis at aol.com  Mon Feb 14 14:08:27 2011
From: Martinitis at aol.com (Martinitis@aol.com)
Date: Mon Feb 14 14:08:48 2011
Subject: [NU Sports] Coble and Carmody
Message-ID: <76b5.7125529c.3a8ae5bb@aol.com>

 
In a message dated 2/14/2011 10:12:22 A.M. Pacific Standard Time,  
Jeff.Beamsley@covisint.com writes:

Disagree.

Coble was high maintenance pretty much from the  start. 
 
Fair enough... if you have knowledge of more information than has generally 
 been made public.
 
Otherwise, I we must agree to disagree.  Carmody is a grown  man.  Coble 
was/is an under graduate college student whose mother has  cancer.  To me, he 
has his priorities right.  Cancer is cancer.   Maybe his behavior and 
choices haven't been perfect.  But  his character issues don't rise to others out 
there, much less me  compared in the same sentence with players with drug, 
or abuse or  anger management problems.
 
And, I'm not saying Carmody isn't better than what we have had in the  
past.  He is.  But he isn't better enough to get us to the level we  all dream 
of.

 
From Jeff.Beamsley at covisint.com  Mon Feb 14 15:17:37 2011
From: Jeff.Beamsley at covisint.com (Beamsley, Jeff)
Date: Mon Feb 14 15:18:07 2011
Subject: [NU Sports] Coble and Carmody
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As I said in my message, don't have any special insight into the
relationship between Carmody and Coble.  Also I don't blame either of
them for the issues that they both had to work through.  Certainly
didn't suggest that Coble's character was an issue and I agree he had
more challenges than many young men normally face.  

Coble had to do what was best for him and Carmody did what he thought
was best for the team.  I don't know if Coble made the right decision,
but I do feel strongly that, from what we know, Carmody did.

That in and of itself doesn't make Carmody a great coach, but it does
show that he has at least one of the elements that great coaches share.

Jeff






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From: nwu-sports-bounces@tssi.com [mailto:nwu-sports-bounces@tssi.com]
On Behalf Of Martinitis@aol.com
Sent: Monday, February 14, 2011 3:08 PM
To: nwu-sports@tssi.com
Subject: [NU Sports] Coble and Carmody


 
In a message dated 2/14/2011 10:12:22 A.M. Pacific Standard Time,  
Jeff.Beamsley@covisint.com writes:

Disagree.

Coble was high maintenance pretty much from the  start. 
 
Fair enough... if you have knowledge of more information than has
generally 
 been made public.
 
Otherwise, I we must agree to disagree.  Carmody is a grown  man.  Coble

was/is an under graduate college student whose mother has  cancer.  To
me, he 
has his priorities right.  Cancer is cancer.   Maybe his behavior and 
choices haven't been perfect.  But  his character issues don't rise to
others out 
there, much less me  compared in the same sentence with players with
drug, 
or abuse or  anger management problems.
 
And, I'm not saying Carmody isn't better than what we have had in the  
past.  He is.  But he isn't better enough to get us to the level we  all
dream 
of.

 
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From wildelk2 at aol.com  Mon Feb 14 19:22:49 2011
From: wildelk2 at aol.com (wildelk2@aol.com)
Date: Mon Feb 14 19:23:14 2011
Subject: [NU Sports] silence on the NU list
In-Reply-To: <813524.82308.qm@web113717.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>
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  Well put Art.  I'm also glad as hell I didn't make the 2 hour drive from York, Pa to be subjected to yesterday's shenanigans.  I'll be more disappointed (if thats even possible after yesterday) if we don't show some heart and get 3 more wins the rest of the way to insure a berth in the NIT.


  I can't remember EVER saying this about one of our teams, but I saw lack of effort throughout; from more than one player.  Balls which could have been had by diving were simply given to State. I saw no attempt (more than once) to box out.  Let's just give Penn St. ANOTHER offensive rebound.  Penn St. was tired of their 3 game losing streak.  Not sure about our team.


   With that said, I trust in our AD in re-signing Bill, with the proviso that states we don't fall flat on our face and miss the NIT (that happened 6,7 years ago).  Give Bill one more year ; he elevated our program from bad to OK as 3 straight NIT berths suggest.  Give him one more year to get them from OK to good.  No excuses next season,  not even your best player quitting or one of your best getting hurt.


     GO CATS!!                       Eric




-----Original Message-----
From: Arthur Miller <artmiller_news@yahoo.com>
To: NU Sports List <nwu-sports@tssi.com>
Sent: Mon, Feb 14, 2011 5:11 am
Subject: [NU Sports] silence on the NU list


In the wake of yesterday's massacre, I observe that the members of this list 
were taught well by their mothers--particularly, "if you don't have something 
nice to say, don't say anything at all".


      

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From Willie.Weinbaum at espn.com  Thu Feb 17 21:58:10 2011
From: Willie.Weinbaum at espn.com (Weinbaum, Willie)
Date: Thu Feb 17 22:02:18 2011
Subject: [NU Sports] yes, an ugly win vs. Iowa
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A win is a win is a win.  Good to overcome the inside struggles at both ends and ride Juice & friends and hang on for the W.

And yes, Mirkovic hit the three-pointer, but he should NOT have taken that shot so early on the shot clock...and then he turned his back on defense and blew kisses?   Foolish.

From rstetson at capps-assoc.com  Thu Feb 17 22:12:23 2011
From: rstetson at capps-assoc.com (Roy S. Lamberton)
Date: Thu Feb 17 22:12:12 2011
Subject: [NU Sports] yes, an ugly win vs. Iowa
In-Reply-To: <1F89BB2CE7A5B94D969618E8CC769CC368D2F4A8@XCHGBRS4.corp.espn.pvt>
References: <813524.82308.qm@web113717.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>	<8CD9AC5FE0AC6B7-1998-9A50@webmail-d038.sysops.aol.com>
	<1F89BB2CE7A5B94D969618E8CC769CC368D2F4A8@XCHGBRS4.corp.espn.pvt>
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In fairness to Luka, it was his 2nd 3 of the night.

I can remember when a hallmark of NU's attack was at least one 3 by the center.

It was also good to see Shurna jumping around and making a few baskets. Maybe he's really
back now.

Anyway, a W is a W, and I'll even take the ugly ones right now.

rsl

++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
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Computer Applications & Support Associates
-------------------- Also ----------------------
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Director Media Relations - Little League 
  Senior League Softball World Series
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Northwestern University - Speech 1974 - 
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-----Original Message-----
From: nwu-sports-bounces@tssi.com [mailto:nwu-sports-bounces@tssi.com] On Behalf Of
Weinbaum, Willie
Sent: Thursday, February 17, 2011 10:58 PM
To: nwu-sports@tssi.com
Subject: [NU Sports] yes, an ugly win vs. Iowa

A win is a win is a win.  Good to overcome the inside struggles at both ends and ride
Juice & friends and hang on for the W.

And yes, Mirkovic hit the three-pointer, but he should NOT have taken that shot so early
on the shot clock...and then he turned his back on defense and blew kisses?   Foolish.

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From Willie.Weinbaum at espn.com  Fri Feb 18 12:52:26 2011
From: Willie.Weinbaum at espn.com (Weinbaum, Willie)
Date: Fri Feb 18 12:54:12 2011
Subject: [NU Sports] re: former NU hoopster, now doctor
In-Reply-To: <8CD9AC5FE0AC6B7-1998-9A50@webmail-d038.sysops.aol.com>
References: <813524.82308.qm@web113717.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>
	<8CD9AC5FE0AC6B7-1998-9A50@webmail-d038.sysops.aol.com>
Message-ID: <1F89BB2CE7A5B94D969618E8CC769CC368D2F8DB@XCHGBRS4.corp.espn.pvt>

Monday's NBC Today Show is scheduled to have a report by Bob Dotson @ 8:50a that will detail the efforts of Dr. Dan Ivankovich to get "bionic legs" for a former NBA player (a guy he knew from playing basketball against him).

From rstetson at capps-assoc.com  Sat Feb 19 19:00:57 2011
From: rstetson at capps-assoc.com (Roy S. Lamberton)
Date: Sat Feb 19 19:01:12 2011
Subject: [NU Sports] Cats up by 10 at the Half
Message-ID: <001601cbd099$a2279d70$e676d850$@com>

Even Luka has another 3.... but Shurna's been on the bench with 2 fouls.

So far it's all Juice.

++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
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Computer Applications & Support Associates
-------------------- Also ----------------------
"Commissioner" Delaware American Legion Baseball
Director Media Relations - Little League 
  Senior League Softball World Series
CTRCS USN/USNR Retired
Northwestern University - Speech 1974 - 
Chi Phi: Pi 1974, KD 1968
Publisher Emeritus: Purple Reign (Fox Sports)
==========  Go Cats -? Beat 'em All  ===========
"...Then I get on my knees and pray,
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From rstetson at capps-assoc.com  Sat Feb 19 20:23:08 2011
From: rstetson at capps-assoc.com (Roy S. Lamberton)
Date: Sat Feb 19 20:23:10 2011
Subject: [NU Sports] Not Pretty, but its real
Message-ID: <001701cbd0a5$1d238740$576a95c0$@com>

(remember Channel 2?)

Juice and John show with some help from the rest as NU fights off Indy on the road after 1
day off.

Maybe Shurna needs to play with one day's rest now?

It does bode well for the Big 10 Tourney... even if the play got sloppy at times.

rsl

++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
Roy S. Lamberton - Senior Associate & Unix Guru.
Computer Applications & Support Associates
-------------------- Also ----------------------
"Commissioner" Delaware American Legion Baseball
Director Media Relations - Little League 
  Senior League Softball World Series
CTRCS USN/USNR Retired
Northwestern University - Speech 1974 - 
Chi Phi: Pi 1974, KD 1968
Publisher Emeritus: Purple Reign (Fox Sports)
==========  Go Cats -? Beat 'em All  ===========
"...Then I get on my knees and pray,
WE DON'T GET FOOLED AGAIN!" -- Pete Townsend
================================================




From wildelk2 at aol.com  Sun Feb 20 10:47:49 2011
From: wildelk2 at aol.com (wildelk2@aol.com)
Date: Sun Feb 20 10:48:03 2011
Subject: [NU Sports] Not Pretty, but its real
In-Reply-To: <001701cbd0a5$1d238740$576a95c0$@com>
References: <001701cbd0a5$1d238740$576a95c0$@com>
Message-ID: <8CD9F350B0317A4-1A9C-41FCF@Webmail-m113.sysops.aol.com>

    I liked the return of "freshness."   By this I mean that we played loose, ran the court, and basically lost that sluggishness thats pervaded the club for the last two weeks.  Surprising due to the short turn-around.  Luka was a knucklehead for showing up IU after hitting a 3  but its good to see desire, effort and bravado after  bad losses and the snoozefest against Iowa.  Wasn' pretty but a real good win.


   Now can we beat State Penn...please?      GO CATS!!        Eric





-----Original Message-----
From: Roy S. Lamberton <rstetson@capps-assoc.com>
To: nwu-sports <nwu-sports@tssi.com>
Sent: Sat, Feb 19, 2011 4:23 pm
Subject: [NU Sports] Not Pretty, but its real


(remember Channel 2?)

Juice and John show with some help from the rest as NU fights off Indy on the 
road after 1
day off.

Maybe Shurna needs to play with one day's rest now?

It does bode well for the Big 10 Tourney... even if the play got sloppy at 
times.

rsl

++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
Roy S. Lamberton - Senior Associate & Unix Guru.
Computer Applications & Support Associates
-------------------- Also ----------------------
"Commissioner" Delaware American Legion Baseball
Director Media Relations - Little League 
  Senior League Softball World Series
CTRCS USN/USNR Retired
Northwestern University - Speech 1974 - 
Chi Phi: Pi 1974, KD 1968
Publisher Emeritus: Purple Reign (Fox Sports)
==========  Go Cats -  Beat 'em All  ===========
"...Then I get on my knees and pray,
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From rstetson at capps-assoc.com  Sun Feb 20 22:17:59 2011
From: rstetson at capps-assoc.com (Roy S. Lamberton)
Date: Sun Feb 20 22:18:02 2011
Subject: [NU Sports] Not Pretty, but its real
In-Reply-To: <8CD9F350B0317A4-1A9C-41FCF@Webmail-m113.sysops.aol.com>
References: <001701cbd0a5$1d238740$576a95c0$@com>
	<8CD9F350B0317A4-1A9C-41FCF@Webmail-m113.sysops.aol.com>
Message-ID: <001e01cbd17e$53751e60$fa5f5b20$@com>

I thought Juice was really enjoying himself - when he hit the 3 pointer with the foul he
had this great ear to ear grin on his face, and they kept showing it over and over.

 

Even Shurna cracked a smile a couple of times.

 

rsl

 

++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

Roy S. Lamberton - Senior Associate & Unix Guru.

Computer Applications & Support Associates

-------------------- Also ----------------------

"Commissioner" Delaware American Legion Baseball

Director Media Relations - Little League 

  Senior League Softball World Series

CTRCS USN/USNR Retired

Northwestern University - Speech 1974 - 

Chi Phi: Pi 1974, KD 1968

Publisher Emeritus: Purple Reign (Fox Sports)

==========  Go Cats -  Beat 'em All  ===========

"...Then I get on my knees and pray,

WE DON'T GET FOOLED AGAIN!" -- Pete Townsend

================================================

 

From: wildelk2@aol.com [mailto:wildelk2@aol.com] 
Sent: Sunday, February 20, 2011 11:48 AM
To: rstetson@capps-assoc.com; nwu-sports@tssi.com
Subject: Re: [NU Sports] Not Pretty, but its real

 

    I liked the return of "freshness."   By this I mean that we played loose, ran the
court, and basically lost that sluggishness thats pervaded the club for the last two
weeks.  Surprising due to the short turn-around.  Luka was a knucklehead for showing up IU
after hitting a 3  but its good to see desire, effort and bravado after  bad losses and
the snoozefest against Iowa.  Wasn' pretty but a real good win. 

 

   Now can we beat State Penn...please?      GO CATS!!        Eric

 

-----Original Message-----
From: Roy S. Lamberton <rstetson@capps-assoc.com>
To: nwu-sports <nwu-sports@tssi.com>
Sent: Sat, Feb 19, 2011 4:23 pm
Subject: [NU Sports] Not Pretty, but its real

(remember Channel 2?)
 
Juice and John show with some help from the rest as NU fights off Indy on the 
road after 1
day off.
 
Maybe Shurna needs to play with one day's rest now?
 
It does bode well for the Big 10 Tourney... even if the play got sloppy at 
times.
 
rsl
 
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
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Computer Applications & Support Associates
-------------------- Also ----------------------
"Commissioner" Delaware American Legion Baseball
Director Media Relations - Little League 
  Senior League Softball World Series
CTRCS USN/USNR Retired
Northwestern University - Speech 1974 - 
Chi Phi: Pi 1974, KD 1968
Publisher Emeritus: Purple Reign (Fox Sports)
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"...Then I get on my knees and pray,
WE DON'T GET FOOLED AGAIN!" -- Pete Townsend
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From Willie.Weinbaum at espn.com  Mon Feb 21 11:22:21 2011
From: Willie.Weinbaum at espn.com (Weinbaum, Willie)
Date: Mon Feb 21 11:23:47 2011
Subject: [NU Sports] Re: NU hoops alum Dan Ivankovich
Message-ID: <1F89BB2CE7A5B94D969618E8CC769CC36874B021@XCHGBRS4.corp.espn.pvt>

>From this morning's NBC Today Show.

http://today.msnbc.msn.com/id/41640589/ns/today-today_people/

>From Blackberry - please excuse typos

W. Weinbaum
Producer
212-916-9864 (24-hour voicemail)
willie.weinbaum@espn.com

From Willie.Weinbaum at espn.com  Wed Feb 23 04:12:44 2011
From: Willie.Weinbaum at espn.com (Weinbaum, Willie)
Date: Wed Feb 23 04:14:02 2011
Subject: [NU Sports] Now this was a losing streak
Message-ID: <1F89BB2CE7A5B94D969618E8CC769CC36874B04B@XCHGBRS4.corp.espn.pvt>

Caltech Snaps 310 Game Conference Losing Streak; Knocks Off Occidental 

>From Blackberry - please excuse typos

W. Weinbaum
Producer
212-916-9864 (24-hour voicemail)
willie.weinbaum@espn.com

From hakirsch at aol.com  Sat Feb 26 15:49:09 2011
From: hakirsch at aol.com (hakirsch@aol.com)
Date: Sat Feb 26 15:49:37 2011
Subject: [NU Sports] Not Pretty, but its real
In-Reply-To: <001e01cbd17e$53751e60$fa5f5b20$@com>
References: <001701cbd0a5$1d238740$576a95c0$@com><8CD9F350B0317A4-1A9C-41FCF@Webmail-m113.sysops.aol.com><001e01cbd17e$53751e60$fa5f5b20$@com>
Message-ID: <684270847-1298756955-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-978247775-@bda2184.bisx.prod.on.blackberry>

Well on better notes outside of our hoop results, Luke is apparently ripping up the golf course of late

Harry
Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry

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From: "Roy S. Lamberton" <rstetson@capps-assoc.com>
Sender: nwu-sports-bounces@tssi.com
Date: Sun, 20 Feb 2011 23:17:59 
To: <wildelk2@aol.com>; <nwu-sports@tssi.com>
Subject: RE: [NU Sports] Not Pretty, but its real

I thought Juice was really enjoying himself - when he hit the 3 pointer with the foul he
had this great ear to ear grin on his face, and they kept showing it over and over.

 

Even Shurna cracked a smile a couple of times.

 

rsl

 

++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

Roy S. Lamberton - Senior Associate & Unix Guru.

Computer Applications & Support Associates

-------------------- Also ----------------------

"Commissioner" Delaware American Legion Baseball

Director Media Relations - Little League 

  Senior League Softball World Series

CTRCS USN/USNR Retired

Northwestern University - Speech 1974 - 

Chi Phi: Pi 1974, KD 1968

Publisher Emeritus: Purple Reign (Fox Sports)

==========  Go Cats -  Beat 'em All  ===========

"...Then I get on my knees and pray,

WE DON'T GET FOOLED AGAIN!" -- Pete Townsend

================================================

 

From: wildelk2@aol.com [mailto:wildelk2@aol.com] 
Sent: Sunday, February 20, 2011 11:48 AM
To: rstetson@capps-assoc.com; nwu-sports@tssi.com
Subject: Re: [NU Sports] Not Pretty, but its real

 

    I liked the return of "freshness."   By this I mean that we played loose, ran the
court, and basically lost that sluggishness thats pervaded the club for the last two
weeks.  Surprising due to the short turn-around.  Luka was a knucklehead for showing up IU
after hitting a 3  but its good to see desire, effort and bravado after  bad losses and
the snoozefest against Iowa.  Wasn' pretty but a real good win. 

 

   Now can we beat State Penn...please?      GO CATS!!        Eric

 

-----Original Message-----
From: Roy S. Lamberton <rstetson@capps-assoc.com>
To: nwu-sports <nwu-sports@tssi.com>
Sent: Sat, Feb 19, 2011 4:23 pm
Subject: [NU Sports] Not Pretty, but its real

(remember Channel 2?)
 
Juice and John show with some help from the rest as NU fights off Indy on the 
road after 1
day off.
 
Maybe Shurna needs to play with one day's rest now?
 
It does bode well for the Big 10 Tourney... even if the play got sloppy at 
times.
 
rsl
 
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
Roy S. Lamberton - Senior Associate & Unix Guru.
Computer Applications & Support Associates
-------------------- Also ----------------------
"Commissioner" Delaware American Legion Baseball
Director Media Relations - Little League 
  Senior League Softball World Series
CTRCS USN/USNR Retired
Northwestern University - Speech 1974 - 
Chi Phi: Pi 1974, KD 1968
Publisher Emeritus: Purple Reign (Fox Sports)
==========  Go Cats -  Beat 'em All  ===========
"...Then I get on my knees and pray,
WE DON'T GET FOOLED AGAIN!" -- Pete Townsend
================================================
 
 
 
 
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From sportsbiz at gmail.com  Sun Feb 27 08:47:06 2011
From: sportsbiz at gmail.com (Sportsbiz)
Date: Sun Feb 27 08:47:33 2011
Subject: [NU Sports] Not Pretty, but its real
In-Reply-To: <684270847-1298756955-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-978247775-@bda2184.bisx.prod.on.blackberry>
References: <001701cbd0a5$1d238740$576a95c0$@com>
	<8CD9F350B0317A4-1A9C-41FCF@Webmail-m113.sysops.aol.com>
	<001e01cbd17e$53751e60$fa5f5b20$@com>
	<684270847-1298756955-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-978247775-@bda2184.bisx.prod.on.blackberry>
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If he wins today - final of the World Match Play - he will be ranked third
in the world.  Not sure where he'll be should he lose.

On Sat, Feb 26, 2011 at 4:49 PM, <hakirsch@aol.com> wrote:

> Well on better notes outside of our hoop results, Luke is apparently
> ripping up the golf course of late
>
> Harry
> Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: "Roy S. Lamberton" <rstetson@capps-assoc.com>
> Sender: nwu-sports-bounces@tssi.com
> Date: Sun, 20 Feb 2011 23:17:59
> To: <wildelk2@aol.com>; <nwu-sports@tssi.com>
> Subject: RE: [NU Sports] Not Pretty, but its real
>
> I thought Juice was really enjoying himself - when he hit the 3 pointer
> with the foul he
> had this great ear to ear grin on his face, and they kept showing it over
> and over.
>
>
>
> Even Shurna cracked a smile a couple of times.
>
>
>
> rsl
>
>
>
> ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
>
> Roy S. Lamberton - Senior Associate & Unix Guru.
>
> Computer Applications & Support Associates
>
> -------------------- Also ----------------------
>
> "Commissioner" Delaware American Legion Baseball
>
> Director Media Relations - Little League
>
>  Senior League Softball World Series
>
> CTRCS USN/USNR Retired
>
> Northwestern University - Speech 1974 -
>
> Chi Phi: Pi 1974, KD 1968
>
> Publisher Emeritus: Purple Reign (Fox Sports)
>
> ==========  Go Cats -  Beat 'em All  ===========
>
> "...Then I get on my knees and pray,
>
> WE DON'T GET FOOLED AGAIN!" -- Pete Townsend
>
> ================================================
>
>
>
> From: wildelk2@aol.com [mailto:wildelk2@aol.com]
> Sent: Sunday, February 20, 2011 11:48 AM
> To: rstetson@capps-assoc.com; nwu-sports@tssi.com
> Subject: Re: [NU Sports] Not Pretty, but its real
>
>
>
>    I liked the return of "freshness."   By this I mean that we played
> loose, ran the
> court, and basically lost that sluggishness thats pervaded the club for the
> last two
> weeks.  Surprising due to the short turn-around.  Luka was a knucklehead
> for showing up IU
> after hitting a 3  but its good to see desire, effort and bravado after
>  bad losses and
> the snoozefest against Iowa.  Wasn' pretty but a real good win.
>
>
>
>   Now can we beat State Penn...please?      GO CATS!!        Eric
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Roy S. Lamberton <rstetson@capps-assoc.com>
> To: nwu-sports <nwu-sports@tssi.com>
> Sent: Sat, Feb 19, 2011 4:23 pm
> Subject: [NU Sports] Not Pretty, but its real
>
> (remember Channel 2?)
>
> Juice and John show with some help from the rest as NU fights off Indy on
> the
> road after 1
> day off.
>
> Maybe Shurna needs to play with one day's rest now?
>
> It does bode well for the Big 10 Tourney... even if the play got sloppy at
> times.
>
> rsl
>
> ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
> Roy S. Lamberton - Senior Associate & Unix Guru.
> Computer Applications & Support Associates
> -------------------- Also ----------------------
> "Commissioner" Delaware American Legion Baseball
> Director Media Relations - Little League
>  Senior League Softball World Series
> CTRCS USN/USNR Retired
> Northwestern University - Speech 1974 -
> Chi Phi: Pi 1974, KD 1968
> Publisher Emeritus: Purple Reign (Fox Sports)
> ==========  Go Cats -  Beat 'em All  ===========
> "...Then I get on my knees and pray,
> WE DON'T GET FOOLED AGAIN!" -- Pete Townsend
> ================================================
>
>
>
>
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From sjtruog at yahoo.com  Sun Feb 27 21:32:40 2011
From: sjtruog at yahoo.com (SjT (Stephen J. Truog))
Date: Sun Feb 27 21:32:58 2011
Subject: [NU Sports] Way to go NU Luke(s)!!!
Message-ID: <667910.24525.qm@web121702.mail.ne1.yahoo.com>

I saw Luke Donald won today in golf.

However, another NU Luke - Luke Matheny - won an Oscar tonight for short documentary. I was a colleague of his at art+performance magazine on campus and his family was kind enough to host me in Delaware during my TN (Teaching Newspaper) internship.

Way to go, Luke! 
Hooray NU and hooray for Delaware! :)
- SjT

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From rstetson at capps-assoc.com  Mon Feb 28 06:26:59 2011
From: rstetson at capps-assoc.com (Roy S. Lamberton)
Date: Mon Feb 28 06:27:06 2011
Subject: [NU Sports] Not Pretty, but its real
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Word is that Luke won yesterday.

 

And with his wife and daughter, that is a pretty sight!

 

rsl

 

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From tkmaycock at yahoo.com  Mon Feb 28 16:21:15 2011
From: tkmaycock at yahoo.com (Tom Maycock)
Date: Mon Feb 28 16:21:33 2011
Subject: [NU Sports] Not Pretty, but its real
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In other, other news, the Lacrosse team is off to a good start: 3-0 after 3 
games against ranked opponents. The first was a competitive but reasonably 
comfortable win over Notre Dame, and the third was an easy cruise against 
Vanderbilt. In between was a hugely entertaining game against North Carolina. I 
was able to catch most of it on NC's web feed. All 3 games were actually 
broadcast on the web, with the ND and NC casts being really well done. The Vandy 
cast had no play-by-play and pretty much unwatchable video. But the NC game was 
the one to watch anyway. 

The Cats had to score late to tie it up at 6-6, then missed some late chances, 
resulting in OT (Lax OT is two 3-minute, non-sudden-death periods, followed by 
sudden-death OT if no one is ahead after the first two periods). 

Carolina gained possession on the first OT draw and kept the ball the entire 
first period, but the NU defense held NC scoreless. NU won the second OT draw, 
held the ball, and then found Taylor Thornton streaking in from the restraining 
line on a switch with about 20 seconds left. Taylor split two defenders on a 
very pretty spin move and scored with about 15 seconds left, putting the Cats up 
7-6. The Cats were able to kill off the last few seconds to come away with the 
win. 

Carolina was the team that ended NU's huge home winning streak last year, and 
then lost to NU in the semifinal game, so it's been quite the rivalry lately. 

Couple more road games before the home opener on 3/11. 

As for b-ball, really hard to know what to say. It's been a very strange year. 
I'd like to replay the whole thing with a healthy Shurna just to see what might 
have been different, but I'm guessing the results wouldn't actually change all 
that much. Hard to imagine this team winning more than one game in the Big 10 
tourney. I guess an NIT bid would be nice, but it would be fairly anti-climactic 
given the hopes we had going into the season. 

Basically, not enough defense, not enough mid-range shooting, and not enough 
one-on-one scoring to be .500 or better in the Big 10 this year. I would say 
that Cobb has been the big bright spot--he got better every game on both offense 
and defense, and should have an excellent career. 

I'll be at the final home game this week--looking forward to seeing a nice 
Senior day ovation for Juice. We've had better players, but not many, if any, 
who have played harder. 

Tom

From rstetson at capps-assoc.com  Mon Feb 28 21:06:10 2011
From: rstetson at capps-assoc.com (Roy S. Lamberton)
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I saw one NIT bracket that had us seeded 6th.

I also would have liked to see Coble on the court with Shurna and Crawford. Would have
been interesting.

rsl

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Computer Applications & Support Associates
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"Commissioner" Delaware American Legion Baseball
Director Media Relations - Little League 
  Senior League Softball World Series
CTRCS USN/USNR Retired
Northwestern University - Speech 1974 - 
Chi Phi: Pi 1974, KD 1968
Publisher Emeritus: Purple Reign (Fox Sports)
==========  Go Cats -? Beat 'em All  ===========
"...Then I get on my knees and pray,
WE DON'T GET FOOLED AGAIN!" -- Pete Townsend
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As for b-ball, really hard to know what to say. It's been a very strange year. 
I'd like to replay the whole thing with a healthy Shurna just to see what might 
have been different, but I'm guessing the results wouldn't actually change all 
that much. Hard to imagine this team winning more than one game in the Big 10 
tourney. I guess an NIT bid would be nice, but it would be fairly anti-climactic 
given the hopes we had going into the season. 


