From thehaze at earthlink.net  Sun Apr  3 20:08:39 2011
From: thehaze at earthlink.net (Jim Bendat)
Date: Sun Apr  3 20:09:01 2011
Subject: [NU Sports] Seeking hotel recommendations for Boston and West Point
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Calling all you east coast NU fans: this west coaster is planning a big eastern trip this fall, ready to root the Cats on to victory at both Boston College and Army.

I'd appreciate suggestions on places to stay in both areas, including the possibility of a bed and breakfast in the West Point area. Many thanks, and Go Cats!

Jim B.

From Martinitis at aol.com  Sun Apr  3 20:36:50 2011
From: Martinitis at aol.com (Martinitis@aol.com)
Date: Sun Apr  3 20:37:02 2011
Subject: [NU Sports] Seeking hotel recommendations for Boston and West Point
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Me too.  Please copy me on any suggestions or tips.
 
Lou
From jintsjason at me.com  Sun Apr  3 21:36:40 2011
From: jintsjason at me.com (Jason Singer)
Date: Sun Apr  3 21:36:01 2011
Subject: [NU Sports] Seeking hotel recommendations for Boston and West
	Point
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Lucky you! The Sox are home that weekend against the Rangers. Whenever I go to Boston (which is invariably for a Sox game) I stay at the Hotel Buckminster. It's less than a block from Fenway, super cheap but really quite nice for the money. Newton (BC)  is a short T ride from there and it's incredibly centrally located for all of Boston's other sights. DO NOT miss a tour of Fenway while you;re there wherever you stay.

Cheers!

Jason Singer
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On Apr 3, 2011, at 6:08 PM, Jim Bendat wrote:

> Calling all you east coast NU fans: this west coaster is planning a big eastern trip this fall, ready to root the Cats on to victory at both Boston College and Army.
> 
> I'd appreciate suggestions on places to stay in both areas, including the possibility of a bed and breakfast in the West Point area. Many thanks, and Go Cats!
> 
> Jim B.
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From neonrye at aol.com  Sun Apr  3 21:41:14 2011
From: neonrye at aol.com (neonrye@aol.com)
Date: Sun Apr  3 21:41:41 2011
Subject: [NU Sports] Seeking hotel recommendations for Boston and West
	Point
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I should be a "go" for both games as well.  I am sure I will be going to the BC game with a couple of my best friends from NU who live up there.

Jim:  Don't really know any B & B's in the West Point vicinity, but if you want a real "experience", and have a rental car, I have a friend/client who operates (along with his wonderful wife) a B & B in Woodstock, NY, which is a 90-minute drive from West Point.  You go in the "back way" (from the North) to West Point, so the traffic might not be as bad as usual.  If you are interested, let me know.  I stayed there with my wife, and loved the place.  There is even a nice outdoor pool; don't know if it will still be open then.

If you want to stay in Westchester County (near Yours Truly), there is a very serviceable and convenient Courtyard by Marriott in Rye, NY (10 minutes or so from my house).  I can drive you to the game.  I am about an hour or sodrive from West Point--depending upon the traffic.

Regards,

Paul






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Me too.  Please copy me on any suggestions or tips.

ou
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From MHRJGScott at aol.com  Mon Apr  4 02:44:39 2011
From: MHRJGScott at aol.com (MHRJGScott@aol.com)
Date: Mon Apr  4 02:44:48 2011
Subject: [NU Sports] Seeking hotel recommendations for Boston and West
	Point
Message-ID: <23c3e.732895.3acad0e7@aol.com>

I travel a good bit and here is the drill, go to hotels.com and research,  
then go to _www.tripadvisor.com _ (http://www.tripadvisor.com and) and
research some more then go to priceline via 
_http://www.amazing-bargains.com/_ (http://www.amazing-bargains.com/)  and  put in a crazy low bid for a 4 
or 5 star hotel and play the game, it may take a  while but I am going to a 
hockey game in Plantation Fl next week and staying at  a 5 star hotel for 
$90, rack rate $250.
From hakirsch at aol.com  Mon Apr  4 14:54:54 2011
From: hakirsch at aol.com (hakirsch@aol.com)
Date: Mon Apr  4 14:54:59 2011
Subject: [NU Sports] Fw: Tex Winter
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Subject: Tex Winter

 Tex Winter, who was head coach at NU during parts of the 70's,was elected to Basketball's Hall of Fame. I guess his leading of the Cats to upset victories over Kentucky (1975)and Michigan (1977) must have sealed his claim. If I am not mistaken those 2 teams were runner ups in the NCAA the prior season 

Harry
 
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From Jeff.Beamsley at covisint.com  Mon Apr  4 15:03:19 2011
From: Jeff.Beamsley at covisint.com (Beamsley, Jeff)
Date: Mon Apr  4 15:03:40 2011
Subject: [NU Sports] Fw: Tex Winter
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That and being good friends with phil jackson and michael jordan.

Happy to see the Bulls returning to former glory with another great
player in Derrick Rose.

Jeff



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Date: Mon, 4 Apr 2011 19:49:34 
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Subject: Tex Winter

 Tex Winter, who was head coach at NU during parts of the 70's,was
elected to Basketball's Hall of Fame. I guess his leading of the Cats to
upset victories over Kentucky (1975)and Michigan (1977) must have sealed
his claim. If I am not mistaken those 2 teams were runner ups in the
NCAA the prior season 

Harry
 
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From Willie.Weinbaum at espn.com  Mon Apr  4 15:06:52 2011
From: Willie.Weinbaum at espn.com (Weinbaum, Willie)
Date: Mon Apr  4 15:08:16 2011
Subject: [NU Sports] Fw: Tex Winter
In-Reply-To: <FA7822545C26F244823CA5D312ABBDEA06EEBEA8@nasa-dtw-ex006.nasa.cpwr.corp>
References: <238131220-1301946895-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-1105246309-@bda2184.bisx.prod.on.blackberry>
	<FA7822545C26F244823CA5D312ABBDEA06EEBEA8@nasa-dtw-ex006.nasa.cpwr.corp>
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FYI - PHIL JACKSON'S COMMENTS, REACTING TO TEX WINTER'S HALL OF FAME ELECTION
"For the past 15 years, there have been people telling me that Tex is going in the Hall of Fame," Jackson said. "When Tex was verbally and cognizantly capable of receiving this award, I would have been much happier. The fact now that he's had a stroke that's impaired his capabilities, it kind of irritates me a little bit that this wasn't done 10 years ago when he was still serving basketball in such a great capacity."  Jackson then added, "Still in all, I'm happy that it's been rewarded."

And no, Rich Falk isn't a good bet as the Hall's next inductee because his NU Wildcats beat national champion Michigan State on the Spartans' run to the title in 1979.

-----Original Message-----
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Sent: Monday, April 04, 2011 4:03 PM
To: hakirsch@aol.com; nwu-sports@tssi.com
Subject: RE: [NU Sports] Fw: Tex Winter

That and being good friends with phil jackson and michael jordan.

Happy to see the Bulls returning to former glory with another great
player in Derrick Rose.

Jeff



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Date: Mon, 4 Apr 2011 19:49:34
To: <nwu-sports-bounces@tssi.com>
Reply-To: hakirsch@aol.com
Subject: Tex Winter

 Tex Winter, who was head coach at NU during parts of the 70's,was
elected to Basketball's Hall of Fame. I guess his leading of the Cats to
upset victories over Kentucky (1975)and Michigan (1977) must have sealed
his claim. If I am not mistaken those 2 teams were runner ups in the
NCAA the prior season

Harry

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From rstetson at capps-assoc.com  Mon Apr  4 21:44:53 2011
From: rstetson at capps-assoc.com (Roy S. Lamberton)
Date: Mon Apr  4 21:45:00 2011
Subject: [NU Sports] Fw: Tex Winter
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References: <238131220-1301946895-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-1105246309-@bda2184.bisx.prod.on.blackberry>	<FA7822545C26F244823CA5D312ABBDEA06EEBEA8@nasa-dtw-ex006.nasa.cpwr.corp>
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There was a story back during his time at NU, Tex had 5 of the top kids from Chicago ready to sign and come play for the Cats.

None of them were admitted and Tex realized what he ware really up against coaching the Wildcats.

Can't confirm any of this, but it makes a good story.

rsl

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  Senior League Softball World Series
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Sent: Monday, April 04, 2011 4:07 PM
To: nwu-sports@tssi.com
Subject: RE: [NU Sports] Fw: Tex Winter

FYI - PHIL JACKSON'S COMMENTS, REACTING TO TEX WINTER'S HALL OF FAME ELECTION
"For the past 15 years, there have been people telling me that Tex is going in the Hall of Fame," Jackson said. "When Tex was verbally and cognizantly capable of receiving this award, I would have been much happier. The fact now that he's had a stroke that's impaired his capabilities, it kind of irritates me a little bit that this wasn't done 10 years ago when he was still serving basketball in such a great capacity."  Jackson then added, "Still in all, I'm happy that it's been rewarded."

And no, Rich Falk isn't a good bet as the Hall's next inductee because his NU Wildcats beat national champion Michigan State on the Spartans' run to the title in 1979.

-----Original Message-----
From: nwu-sports-bounces@tssi.com [mailto:nwu-sports-bounces@tssi.com] On Behalf Of Beamsley, Jeff
Sent: Monday, April 04, 2011 4:03 PM
To: hakirsch@aol.com; nwu-sports@tssi.com
Subject: RE: [NU Sports] Fw: Tex Winter

That and being good friends with phil jackson and michael jordan.

Happy to see the Bulls returning to former glory with another great
player in Derrick Rose.

Jeff



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Date: Mon, 4 Apr 2011 19:49:34
To: <nwu-sports-bounces@tssi.com>
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Subject: Tex Winter

 Tex Winter, who was head coach at NU during parts of the 70's,was
elected to Basketball's Hall of Fame. I guess his leading of the Cats to
upset victories over Kentucky (1975)and Michigan (1977) must have sealed
his claim. If I am not mistaken those 2 teams were runner ups in the
NCAA the prior season

Harry

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From hakirsch at aol.com  Mon Apr  4 22:15:07 2011
From: hakirsch at aol.com (hakirsch@aol.com)
Date: Mon Apr  4 22:15:53 2011
Subject: [NU Sports] Fw: Tex Winter
In-Reply-To: <002b01cbf33b$72098e40$561caac0$@com>
References: <238131220-1301946895-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-1105246309-@bda2184.bisx.prod.on.blackberry>	<FA7822545C26F244823CA5D312ABBDEA06EEBEA8@nasa-dtw-ex006.nasa.cpwr.corp><1F89BB2CE7A5B94D969618E8CC769CC369B8A11C@XCHGBRS4.corp.espn.pvt><002b01cbf33b$72098e40$561caac0$@com>
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Could be true. He said when he saw Mike Campbell's transcript (one B) he said he had never seen one like that before.  Campbell would later be drafted but passed to go to Harvard Law School instead

Harry
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Sender: nwu-sports-bounces@tssi.com
Date: Mon, 4 Apr 2011 22:44:53 
To: 'Weinbaum, Willie'<Willie.Weinbaum@espn.com>; <nwu-sports@tssi.com>
Subject: RE: [NU Sports] Fw: Tex Winter

There was a story back during his time at NU, Tex had 5 of the top kids from Chicago ready to sign and come play for the Cats.

None of them were admitted and Tex realized what he ware really up against coaching the Wildcats.

Can't confirm any of this, but it makes a good story.

rsl

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Computer Applications & Support Associates
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Director Media Relations - Little League 
  Senior League Softball World Series
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Northwestern University - Speech 1974 - 
Chi Phi: Pi 1974, KD 1968
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==========  Go Cats -  Beat 'em All  ===========
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================================================

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Sent: Monday, April 04, 2011 4:07 PM
To: nwu-sports@tssi.com
Subject: RE: [NU Sports] Fw: Tex Winter

FYI - PHIL JACKSON'S COMMENTS, REACTING TO TEX WINTER'S HALL OF FAME ELECTION
"For the past 15 years, there have been people telling me that Tex is going in the Hall of Fame," Jackson said. "When Tex was verbally and cognizantly capable of receiving this award, I would have been much happier. The fact now that he's had a stroke that's impaired his capabilities, it kind of irritates me a little bit that this wasn't done 10 years ago when he was still serving basketball in such a great capacity."  Jackson then added, "Still in all, I'm happy that it's been rewarded."

And no, Rich Falk isn't a good bet as the Hall's next inductee because his NU Wildcats beat national champion Michigan State on the Spartans' run to the title in 1979.

-----Original Message-----
From: nwu-sports-bounces@tssi.com [mailto:nwu-sports-bounces@tssi.com] On Behalf Of Beamsley, Jeff
Sent: Monday, April 04, 2011 4:03 PM
To: hakirsch@aol.com; nwu-sports@tssi.com
Subject: RE: [NU Sports] Fw: Tex Winter

That and being good friends with phil jackson and michael jordan.

Happy to see the Bulls returning to former glory with another great
player in Derrick Rose.

Jeff



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From: hakirsch@aol.com
Date: Mon, 4 Apr 2011 19:49:34
To: <nwu-sports-bounces@tssi.com>
Reply-To: hakirsch@aol.com
Subject: Tex Winter

 Tex Winter, who was head coach at NU during parts of the 70's,was
elected to Basketball's Hall of Fame. I guess his leading of the Cats to
upset victories over Kentucky (1975)and Michigan (1977) must have sealed
his claim. If I am not mistaken those 2 teams were runner ups in the
NCAA the prior season

Harry

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From neonrye at aol.com  Mon Apr  4 23:01:38 2011
From: neonrye at aol.com (neonrye@aol.com)
Date: Mon Apr  4 23:01:49 2011
Subject: [NU Sports] Hoops Finale
Message-ID: <8CDC15D4C843E3F-17E8-2ED11@Webmail-d115.sysops.aol.com>


Well, fellow Listers and 'Cat fans, I have to say it.  Now that the nets have been cut down and Luther Van Dross has again sung his familiar refrain.....

When, oh when, will we have our "ONE SHINING MOMENT"?  A spot at the Dance (or even the "First Four"), a Bowl win,.NIT Final Four at the Garden,....whatever.....

As my English teacher in 10th grade, Mr. Elliser, a wise man, used to say, "Suffering makes you strong", as he piled on the homework.:-)

Here't to the future, with Fitz and Carmody....I still have hope that a brighter day is coming.  That's what being an NU fan is all about, right?

Looking forward to a big get-together at BC and Army in the Fall with many of you.

Paul Levinson



From AJWDBW at aol.com  Tue Apr  5 08:57:00 2011
From: AJWDBW at aol.com (AJWDBW@aol.com)
Date: Tue Apr  5 08:57:10 2011
Subject: [NU Sports] Hoops Finale
Message-ID: <4077.24e831ac.3acc79ac@aol.com>

2012!
 
 
In a message dated 4/4/2011 11:01:57 P.M. Central Daylight Time,  
neonrye@aol.com writes:

When, oh  when, will we have our "ONE SHINING MOMENT"?  A spot at the Dance 
(or  even the "First Four"), a Bowl  win
From nolan at romaine.tssi.com  Wed Apr  6 16:13:45 2011
From: nolan at romaine.tssi.com (Mike Nolan)
Date: Wed Apr  6 16:13:47 2011
Subject: [NU Sports] Big Ten schedules for 2013 and 2014
Message-ID: <201104062113.p36LDjHo020215@romaine.tssi.com>

The Big Ten released conference football schedules for 2013 and 2014
today.  Indiana and Penn State drop off the schedule, to be replaced
by Wisconsin and Ohio State.

That means Northwestern will not play Purdue until at least 2015.

I assume this also means that a 9 game conference schedule will not
start until at least 2015.
--
Mike Nolan

From wildelk2 at aol.com  Sat Apr  9 21:04:56 2011
From: wildelk2 at aol.com (wildelk2@aol.com)
Date: Sat Apr  9 21:05:07 2011
Subject: [NU Sports] TV for BC, Army
Message-ID: <8CDC53AD272A028-1AE8-18894@webmail-d014.sysops.aol.com>

   Per nusports.com,  road games at BC and Army are already listed as games to be televised.  I know Army and Navy have a deal with CSTV (owned by CBS),  and who knows? Maybe we'll be on CBS when we play at Army.   I'm intrigued by the BC game.  I'm hoping that will be a ESPN or ESPN2 game;  not ESPN Classic or ESPN U.
   Regardless, I'm hoping to go to the game at West Point.   Should be a lot of fun!   


   GO CATS!!!    Eric



From marks83588 at aol.com  Sun Apr 10 06:57:32 2011
From: marks83588 at aol.com (marks83588@aol.com)
Date: Sun Apr 10 06:57:39 2011
Subject: [NU Sports] TV for BC, Army
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Any word on when NU will have tickets for these games on sale?





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To: nwu-sports <nwu-sports@tssi.com>
Sent: Sat, Apr 9, 2011 10:05 pm
Subject: [NU Sports] TV for BC, Army


   Per nusports.com,  road games at BC and Army are already listed as games to 
e televised.  I know Army and Navy have a deal with CSTV (owned by CBS),  and 
ho knows? Maybe we'll be on CBS when we play at Army.   I'm intrigued by the BC 
ame.  I'm hoping that will be a ESPN or ESPN2 game;  not ESPN Classic or ESPN 
.
  Regardless, I'm hoping to go to the game at West Point.   Should be a lot of 
un!   

  GO CATS!!!    Eric

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From sjtruog at yahoo.com  Sun Apr 10 14:40:20 2011
From: sjtruog at yahoo.com (SjT (Stephen J. Truog))
Date: Sun Apr 10 14:40:23 2011
Subject: [NU Sports] Big Ten schedules for 2013 and 2014
In-Reply-To: <201104062113.p36LDjHo020215@romaine.tssi.com>
Message-ID: <421694.28384.qm@web121713.mail.ne1.yahoo.com>

Oh darn, I'm crushed that our "rivalry" with the Boilers will be on hold.:) I'll miss that incessant train whistle and the fans practicing for their math test on Monday by constantly counting to four. :)

On the flip side, OUCH on getting Wisky and OSU in a trade for Indiana and PSU (who may both be in transition depending on JoePa's staying there). Though we do have a pretty good rivalry with the cheeseheads going, so that will be good to renew. Still ... UW, Iowa, UNL, OSU, Michigan, MSU, Minny and the Ill-ini ... that's about as tough a league schedule as you'll find anywhere - including the SEC. Throw in a tougher NC schedule and it'll be sink or swim time in the deep end.

GO CATS!!!
-SjT

* * * * * * * * *
STEPHEN J. TRUOG
sjtruog@yahoo.com
GO CATS!!! GEAUX SAINTS!!!
Super Bowl XLIV Champions!
==========================

From thehaze at earthlink.net  Sun Apr 10 19:54:34 2011
From: thehaze at earthlink.net (Jim Bendat)
Date: Sun Apr 10 19:55:10 2011
Subject: [NU Sports] TV for BC, Army
Message-ID: <7887377.1302483274743.JavaMail.root@wamui-junio.atl.sa.earthlink.net>

Don't know about BC, but I agree ESPN might want to pick up that type of matchup. As for Army, all of the Cadets' home games were televised last year by CBS College Sports, which has now been renamed the CBS Sports Network. So, I wouldn't be surprised if we're on that channel (ch. 613 on DirecTV) on Sept. 17th. - Jim B.


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>Subject: [NU Sports] TV for BC, Army
>
>   Per nusports.com,  road games at BC and Army are already listed as games to be televised.  I know Army and Navy have a deal with CSTV (owned by CBS),  and who knows? Maybe we'll be on CBS when we play at Army.   I'm intrigued by the BC game.  I'm hoping that will be a ESPN or ESPN2 game;  not ESPN Classic or ESPN U.
>   Regardless, I'm hoping to go to the game at West Point.   Should be a lot of fun!   
>
>
>   GO CATS!!!    Eric
>
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From Jeff.Beamsley at covisint.com  Mon Apr 11 09:47:23 2011
From: Jeff.Beamsley at covisint.com (Beamsley, Jeff)
Date: Mon Apr 11 09:47:47 2011
Subject: [NU Sports] Big Ten schedules for 2013 and 2014
In-Reply-To: <421694.28384.qm@web121713.mail.ne1.yahoo.com>
References: <201104062113.p36LDjHo020215@romaine.tssi.com>
	<421694.28384.qm@web121713.mail.ne1.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <FA7822545C26F244823CA5D312ABBDEA06EEC569@nasa-dtw-ex006.nasa.cpwr.corp>

OSU could be in rebuilding mode in 2013 if the NCAA lands on them with
both feet later this year, their "tainted" class all seek refuge in the
NFL, and Tressel leaves.

The bigger challenge may turn out to be a resurgent UoM.

Jeff


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Subject: Re: [NU Sports] Big Ten schedules for 2013 and 2014

Oh darn, I'm crushed that our "rivalry" with the Boilers will be on
hold.:) I'll miss that incessant train whistle and the fans practicing
for their math test on Monday by constantly counting to four. :)

On the flip side, OUCH on getting Wisky and OSU in a trade for Indiana
and PSU (who may both be in transition depending on JoePa's staying
there). Though we do have a pretty good rivalry with the cheeseheads
going, so that will be good to renew. Still ... UW, Iowa, UNL, OSU,
Michigan, MSU, Minny and the Ill-ini ... that's about as tough a league
schedule as you'll find anywhere - including the SEC. Throw in a tougher
NC schedule and it'll be sink or swim time in the deep end.

GO CATS!!!
-SjT

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sjtruog@yahoo.com
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From nolan at romaine.tssi.com  Mon Apr 11 11:54:43 2011
From: nolan at romaine.tssi.com (Mike Nolan)
Date: Mon Apr 11 11:54:45 2011
Subject: [NU Sports] Big Ten schedules for 2013 and 2014
In-Reply-To: <421694.28384.qm@web121713.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> from "SjT
	\(Stephen J. Truog\)" at Apr 10, 2011 12:40:20 PM
Message-ID: <201104111654.p3BGshrW016281@romaine.tssi.com>

> On the flip side, OUCH on getting Wisky and OSU in a trade for Indiana and PSU (who may both be in transition depending on JoePa's staying there). Though we do have a pretty good rivalry with the cheeseheads going, so that will be good to renew. Still ... UW, Iowa, UNL, OSU, Michigan, MSU, Minny and the Ill-ini ... that's about as tough a league schedule as you'll find anywhere - including the SEC. Throw in a tougher NC schedule and it'll be sink or swim time in the deep end.

Personally, I'd like to see JoePa hang in through at least the 2012 
season so that he gets one more trip to Lincoln NE.  

But Penn State President Graham Spanier, formerly the Chancellor of
the University of Nebraska-Lincoln, seems to want to force Paterno out
and might see a 2012 trip to Lincoln with Joe as head coach as another 
threat to his power base.  
--
Mike Nolan

From rstetson at capps-assoc.com  Tue Apr 12 10:41:01 2011
From: rstetson at capps-assoc.com (Roy S. Lamberton)
Date: Tue Apr 12 10:41:25 2011
Subject: [NU Sports] Big Ten schedules for 2013 and 2014
In-Reply-To: <201104111654.p3BGshrW016281@romaine.tssi.com>
References: <421694.28384.qm@web121713.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> from "SjT	\(Stephen
	J. Truog\)" at Apr 10,
	2011 12:40:20 PM <201104111654.p3BGshrW016281@romaine.tssi.com>
Message-ID: <001701cbf928$07b8c9f0$172a5dd0$@com>

Given UN-L's experiences with coach changes over the past 10 years:
If I was the Prez of State Penn and had formerly organized the replacement of my head
football coach at a previous school (with all the troubles in Lincoln that Mike can attest
to), I think I'd let the long term coach call it quits on his own.

Personally, I'd rather see Jo Pa hang around until NU figures out a way to beat him either
at home, or at State College.

And the question for State Penn - if Jo Pa decides he's had enuff either this year, or
next, where is his replacement?

Will a new head coach revive the program? Or will it continue to slide (if that is what
they think up at State Penn now).

I'm a little more conservative about these things - unless a coach does something stupid
(see dOSU), I'd prefer the coach to leave under their terms, not the schools. IMHO, Too
many guys have been fired lately right before they could have achieved a decent team. 

At least NU has the sense now to let the coach build a long term system, and not have the
"flavor of the month" that many in the Big 10 seem to want (see Michigan, Indiana,
Minny-soda)

rsl



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-----Original Message-----
From: nwu-sports-bounces@tssi.com [mailto:nwu-sports-bounces@tssi.com] On Behalf Of Mike
Nolan
Sent: Monday, April 11, 2011 12:55 PM
To: "SjT (Stephen J. Truog)"
Cc: nwu-sports@romaine.tssi.com
Subject: Re: [NU Sports] Big Ten schedules for 2013 and 2014

> On the flip side, OUCH on getting Wisky and OSU in a trade for Indiana and PSU (who may
both be in transition depending on JoePa's staying there). Though we do have a pretty good
rivalry with the cheeseheads going, so that will be good to renew. Still ... UW, Iowa,
UNL, OSU, Michigan, MSU, Minny and the Ill-ini ... that's about as tough a league schedule
as you'll find anywhere - including the SEC. Throw in a tougher NC schedule and it'll be
sink or swim time in the deep end.

Personally, I'd like to see JoePa hang in through at least the 2012 
season so that he gets one more trip to Lincoln NE.  

But Penn State President Graham Spanier, formerly the Chancellor of
the University of Nebraska-Lincoln, seems to want to force Paterno out
and might see a 2012 trip to Lincoln with Joe as head coach as another 
threat to his power base.  
--
Mike Nolan

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From aaronsament at gmail.com  Wed Apr 13 08:44:27 2011
From: aaronsament at gmail.com (Aaron Ament)
Date: Wed Apr 13 08:44:33 2011
Subject: [NU Sports] Big recruiting day
Message-ID: <BANLkTimvPS3g=j_j-Vxpx2P2=85Q_Kk76A@mail.gmail.com>

Anybody seen the kids mentioned in the Tribune today?  Not sure if its been
sent around but we landed commitmets from a 6'11 junior, Alex Olah (alo
looking at Notre Dame, Boston College and Marquette) and 6'7 sophomore Milos
Kustic.

On Apr 4, 2011 11:16 PM, <hakirsch@aol.com> wrote:

Could be true. He said when he saw Mike Campbell's transcript (one B) he
said he had never seen one like that before.  Campbell would later be
drafted but passed to go to Harvard Law School instead


Harry
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From Jeff.Beamsley at covisint.com  Wed Apr 13 09:59:39 2011
From: Jeff.Beamsley at covisint.com (Beamsley, Jeff)
Date: Wed Apr 13 09:59:55 2011
Subject: [NU Sports] Big recruiting day
In-Reply-To: <BANLkTimvPS3g=j_j-Vxpx2P2=85Q_Kk76A@mail.gmail.com>
References: <BANLkTimvPS3g=j_j-Vxpx2P2=85Q_Kk76A@mail.gmail.com>
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Also mentioned 6-11 prospect John Cannon from NC who would be in next
fall's freshman class if he committed.

Looks like BC has been listening to Dennis.

Jeff


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Subject: [NU Sports] Big recruiting day

Anybody seen the kids mentioned in the Tribune today?  Not sure if its
been
sent around but we landed commitmets from a 6'11 junior, Alex Olah (alo
looking at Notre Dame, Boston College and Marquette) and 6'7 sophomore
Milos
Kustic.

On Apr 4, 2011 11:16 PM, <hakirsch@aol.com> wrote:

Could be true. He said when he saw Mike Campbell's transcript (one B) he
said he had never seen one like that before.  Campbell would later be
drafted but passed to go to Harvard Law School instead


Harry
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From sportsbiz at gmail.com  Wed Apr 13 10:07:43 2011
From: sportsbiz at gmail.com (Sportsbiz)
Date: Wed Apr 13 10:08:28 2011
Subject: [NU Sports] Big recruiting day
In-Reply-To: <BANLkTimvPS3g=j_j-Vxpx2P2=85Q_Kk76A@mail.gmail.com>
References: <BANLkTimvPS3g=j_j-Vxpx2P2=85Q_Kk76A@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <BANLkTik0AVp=w333cMftP2P6gXLXM+MnTA@mail.gmail.com>

That should be good for down the road help as both are underclassmen (one is
a junior, the other a sophomore) so that puts more pressure on landing the
N.C. big man mentioned in the Trib article
who lists NU as his favorite.  Signing period starts today.

http://www.chicagotribune.com/sports/breaking/cbsports-two-big-men-commit-to-northwestern-20110412,0,7122549.story

Mark

On Wed, Apr 13, 2011 at 9:44 AM, Aaron Ament <aaronsament@gmail.com> wrote:

> Anybody seen the kids mentioned in the Tribune today?  Not sure if its been
> sent around but we landed commitmets from a 6'11 junior, Alex Olah (alo
> looking at Notre Dame, Boston College and Marquette) and 6'7 sophomore
> Milos
> Kustic.
>
> On Apr 4, 2011 11:16 PM, <hakirsch@aol.com> wrote:
>
> Could be true. He said when he saw Mike Campbell's transcript (one B) he
> said he had never seen one like that before.  Campbell would later be
> drafted but passed to go to Harvard Law School instead
>
>
> Harry
> Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry
>
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From scottzel at gmail.com  Wed Apr 13 11:04:45 2011
From: scottzel at gmail.com (Scott Zeller, M.D.)
Date: Wed Apr 13 11:05:03 2011
Subject: [NU Sports] Big recruiting day
In-Reply-To: <BANLkTik0AVp=w333cMftP2P6gXLXM+MnTA@mail.gmail.com>
References: <BANLkTimvPS3g=j_j-Vxpx2P2=85Q_Kk76A@mail.gmail.com>
	<BANLkTik0AVp=w333cMftP2P6gXLXM+MnTA@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <BANLkTim4hQJ4DCq4bxLDeZSryH4MdS8tqg@mail.gmail.com>

The 6'11 guy, John Cannon, was really pleased with his NU visit last week.
Per report it will come down to NU and Georgia, who he will visit this
weekend. His dream school was North Carolina -- who have offered him a
"preferred walkon" position and an academic scholarship, with a likely full
athletic scholarship in a year per reports -- but it seems he wants the full
ride from the start, and not to be the guy sitting on the end of the bench
for the next 4 years. Keep your fingers crossed.

On Wed, Apr 13, 2011 at 8:07 AM, Sportsbiz <sportsbiz@gmail.com> wrote:

> That should be good for down the road help as both are underclassmen (one
> is
> a junior, the other a sophomore) so that puts more pressure on landing the
> N.C. big man mentioned in the Trib article
> who lists NU as his favorite.  Signing period starts today.
>
>
> http://www.chicagotribune.com/sports/breaking/cbsports-two-big-men-commit-to-northwestern-20110412,0,7122549.story
>
> Mark
>
> On Wed, Apr 13, 2011 at 9:44 AM, Aaron Ament <aaronsament@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> > Anybody seen the kids mentioned in the Tribune today?  Not sure if its
> been
> > sent around but we landed commitmets from a 6'11 junior, Alex Olah (alo
> > looking at Notre Dame, Boston College and Marquette) and 6'7 sophomore
> > Milos
> > Kustic.
> >
> > On Apr 4, 2011 11:16 PM, <hakirsch@aol.com> wrote:
> >
> > Could be true. He said when he saw Mike Campbell's transcript (one B) he
> > said he had never seen one like that before.  Campbell would later be
> > drafted but passed to go to Harvard Law School instead
> >
> >
> > Harry
> > Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: "Roy S. Lamberton" <rstetson@capps-assoc.com>
> > Sender: nwu-sports-bo...
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From tbng at comcast.net  Wed Apr 13 15:20:22 2011
From: tbng at comcast.net (Dennis W. Brandt)
Date: Wed Apr 13 15:20:33 2011
Subject: [NU Sports] Big recruiting day
References: <BANLkTimvPS3g=j_j-Vxpx2P2=85Q_Kk76A@mail.gmail.com>
	<FA7822545C26F244823CA5D312ABBDEA0702EF7E@nasa-dtw-ex006.nasa.cpwr.corp>
Message-ID: <93DA0866FE4D4092A363A8052A282FE0@dennismachine>

> Also mentioned 6-11 prospect John Cannon from NC who would be in next
> fall's freshman class if he committed.
>
> Looks like BC has been listening to Dennis.

We have a 6' 11" guy now and had a seven-footer.  The former is the weakest 
player in the starting lineup, and the latter was the worst Division 1 
basketball player I've ever seen.  Let's hope this new tall guy is more than 
just tall.


From sportsbiz at gmail.com  Thu Apr 14 06:55:22 2011
From: sportsbiz at gmail.com (Sportsbiz)
Date: Thu Apr 14 06:55:46 2011
Subject: [NU Sports] Big Ten basketball revenue
Message-ID: <BANLkTiktXaZkHE5JTe+grJ1jhzadKfb12w@mail.gmail.com>

Forbes has done an analysis of Big Ten basketball revenue using the IRS 990s
that all non-profits are required to file.  As a result, the information
should be reasonably good.  The analysis is based on the 2009-10 season and
provides surprising, at least to me, data - particularly about NU and its
place in the league.

The Big Ten placed fourth among all leagues in NCAA tournament money with
$82.9 million over the last six years (all NCAA tourney money is figured on
and distributed based on a six year rolling conference members performance).
The Big East was first, followed by the Big 12 and the ACC.  None of the
figures took into account any conference realignment for any years following
2009-10.

For NU specific numbers, we were 7th in the league in basketball revenue
with $10 million - the league mean is $12.5 million and the median is $13.7
million.  Purdue was last at $7.8 million.  We were also 7th in basketball
profits.  Reflecting the relatively poor attendance at Ryan Field, we were
3rd in percentage of total department revenue derived from men's basketball
behind Illinois and Indiana.  All in all, and considering the attendance
issues in basketball, I'm surprised we ranked as high as we did.

http://blogs.forbes.com/sportsmoney/2011/03/14/assessing-the-financials-for-big-ten-mens-basketball/

Mark
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From Willie.Weinbaum at espn.com  Thu Apr 14 07:19:20 2011
From: Willie.Weinbaum at espn.com (Weinbaum, Willie)
Date: Thu Apr 14 07:20:40 2011
Subject: [NU Sports] NU/ND renew football rivalry - just announced on Mike &
 Mike ESPN show
Message-ID: <1F89BB2CE7A5B94D969618E8CC769CC369F40C89@XCHGBRS4.corp.espn.pvt>

2014 - - S. Bend

2018 - - Evanston, first time since 1976

37-8-2 ND leads series, NU won last meeting, in 1995 by 17-15 score

From hakirsch at aol.com  Thu Apr 14 07:23:56 2011
From: hakirsch at aol.com (hakirsch@aol.com)
Date: Thu Apr 14 07:24:02 2011
Subject: [NU Sports] NU/ND renew football rivalry - just announced on Mike
	&Mike ESPN show
Message-ID: <790282883-1302783837-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-1956980333-@bda2184.bisx.prod.on.blackberry>

This is great. We have a good shot at cutting down the 37-8 margin though would have guessed a repeat of the Soldier Field venue as in 1992

Harry
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Subject: [NU Sports] NU/ND renew football rivalry - just announced on Mike &Mike ESPN show
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2014 - - S. Bend

2018 - - Evanston, first time since 1976

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From rstetson at capps-assoc.com  Thu Apr 14 07:36:08 2011
From: rstetson at capps-assoc.com (Roy S. Lamberton)
Date: Thu Apr 14 07:36:26 2011
Subject: [NU Sports] NU/ND renew football rivalry - just announced on
	Mike	&Mike ESPN show
In-Reply-To: <790282883-1302783837-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-1956980333-@bda2184.bisx.prod.on.blackberry>
References: <790282883-1302783837-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-1956980333-@bda2184.bisx.prod.on.blackberry>
Message-ID: <000001cbfaa0$87d9a450$978cecf0$@com>

NU used to be one of the early season "patsies" for ND. Good to revive the series when we
have coach and team worthy of playing them. Navy shouldn't be the only team to feast on
the Irish.

I remember when we played them in 1972, I walked up to (then) Dyche to watch the game, and
ND was unloading their bus at the south end of the stadium. I always swore that the
linemen picked up the bus and shook the equipment out on the ground, they were that
big....

And did they put a beating on the Cats that day.

It wasn't until I graduated that NU started to beat ND, and then ND didn't play us
anymore. Too bad, the last few years, we would have had a good shot at victory and a big
win down in South Bend would have been Priceless.

rsl

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Sent: Thursday, April 14, 2011 8:24 AM
To: Willie Weinbaum; nwu-sports-bounces@tssi.com
Cc: nwu-sports@tssi.com
Subject: Re: [NU Sports] NU/ND renew football rivalry - just announced on Mike &Mike ESPN
show

This is great. We have a good shot at cutting down the 37-8 margin though would have
guessed a repeat of the Soldier Field venue as in 1992

Harry
------Original Message------
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Sender: nwu-sports-bounces@tssi.com
Cc: nwu-sports@tssi.com
Subject: [NU Sports] NU/ND renew football rivalry - just announced on Mike &Mike ESPN show
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2014 - - S. Bend

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From neonrye at aol.com  Thu Apr 14 07:42:03 2011
From: neonrye at aol.com (neonrye@aol.com)
Date: Thu Apr 14 07:41:28 2011
Subject: [NU Sports] NU/ND renew football rivalry - just announced on
	Mike&Mike ESPN show
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Fitz must be so psyched.  This nails it--he ain't going anywhere.  Settle in for the Joe Pa of Evanston Saga, a long-running series.

Hi to all my List friends from beautiful Prague--visiting our son (studying here for semester).  Off now to Berlin. 

 Great to hear all this 'Cat news.

Regards,

Paul Levinson
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This is great. We have a good shot at cutting down the 37-8 margin though would have guessed a repeat of the Soldier Field venue as in 1992

Harry
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2014 - - S. Bend

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From Willie.Weinbaum at espn.com  Thu Apr 14 08:11:24 2011
From: Willie.Weinbaum at espn.com (Weinbaum, Willie)
Date: Thu Apr 14 08:12:44 2011
Subject: [NU Sports] NU/ND renew football rivalry - just announced on
	Mike&Mike ESPN show
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Jim Phillips worked very hard on this for more than a year.   Seems it should be a big boost for recruiting...and for the facilities campaign.

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Subject: Re: [NU Sports] NU/ND renew football rivalry - just announced on Mike&Mike ESPN show

Fitz must be so psyched.  This nails it--he ain't going anywhere.  Settle in for the Joe Pa of Evanston Saga, a long-running series.

Hi to all my List friends from beautiful Prague--visiting our son (studying here for semester).  Off now to Berlin.

 Great to hear all this 'Cat news.

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Paul Levinson
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This is great. We have a good shot at cutting down the 37-8 margin though would have guessed a repeat of the Soldier Field venue as in 1992

Harry
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2014 - - S. Bend

2018 - - Evanston, first time since 1976

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From sjtruog at yahoo.com  Thu Apr 14 10:06:05 2011
From: sjtruog at yahoo.com (SjT (Stephen J. Truog))
Date: Thu Apr 14 10:06:08 2011
Subject: [NU Sports] NU/ND renew football rivalry - just announced on
	Mike&Mike ESPN show
In-Reply-To: <1F89BB2CE7A5B94D969618E8CC769CC369F40CD8@XCHGBRS4.corp.espn.pvt>
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Another big score for AD Phillips - Notre Dame, in OUR house!

I just wish we had a bye before the game in South Bend so we could enjoy two weeks of reliving the 17-15 game. :)

Our NC schedule has certainly been beefed up and I LOVE this game - especially that it's a home and home ... not home and Soldier Field or home and two away. Nice job all around by Phillips!

However ...

You can't ignore that when looking at our schedules for the next few years now that it's gonna get awfully tough, awfully fast. Our Big Ten schedule now includes five of the following six (OSU, UM, Wisky, Iowa, PSU and Nebraska), plus our annual Illini rivalry, plus always tricky Sparty, plus Cal/BC/ND (Cal and ND both in 2014). That's not just adding a few tougher games - that's playing 4 or 5 of the legendary names in the sport every year, along with 4 or 5 other pretty darn good teams.

Can Persa stay another 4-5 years? :)

But overall, kudos to Phillips and everyone at NU - this is a huge coup and I can't wait to see the F'ing Irish walk into Ryan Field and see the place packed in PURPLE!

GO CATS!!!
-SjT

* * * * * * * * *
STEPHEN J. TRUOG
sjtruog@yahoo.com
GO CATS!!! GEAUX SAINTS!!!
Super Bowl XLIV Champions!
==========================

From tbng at comcast.net  Thu Apr 14 10:44:22 2011
From: tbng at comcast.net (Dennis W. Brandt)
Date: Thu Apr 14 10:44:35 2011
Subject: [NU Sports] NU/ND renew football rivalry - just announced
	onMike&Mike ESPN show
References: <320653.63614.qm@web121705.mail.ne1.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <2F09917A6E80414997077BF0769971B8@dennismachine>

> Another big score for AD Phillips - Notre Dame, in OUR house!

Let's hope by then there will be 40,000+ NORTHWESTERN fans in the seats, not 
the other way around.  I can remember after a '65 home game with ND my 
sophomore year walking home wearing my band uniform and being booed by kids 
I had never seen in my life.  And this was in Evanston! 

From hakirsch at aol.com  Thu Apr 14 11:00:56 2011
From: hakirsch at aol.com (hakirsch@aol.com)
Date: Thu Apr 14 11:01:02 2011
Subject: [NU Sports] NU/ND renew football rivalry - just
	announcedonMike&Mike ESPN show
Message-ID: <2067019688-1302796857-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-671991735-@bda2184.bisx.prod.on.blackberry>

Folks

Don't bet on a "Sea of Purple" when  ND comes into Evanston. The allure of the game is the huge population of Irish Catholics living in Chicagoland coming for an hour drive to see their beloved Domers. I suspect that we would  be in a minority. 

 Unfortunately   it's not because of 2 great traditions or a great historic rivalry. Now if we were coming off a Rose Bowl win the prior January,maybe it would be a bit more even

Harry
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To: nwu-sports@tssi.com
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Sent: Apr 14, 2011 8:44 AM

> Another big score for AD Phillips - Notre Dame, in OUR house!

Let's hope by then there will be 40,000+ NORTHWESTERN fans in the seats, not 
the other way around.  I can remember after a '65 home game with ND my 
sophomore year walking home wearing my band uniform and being booed by kids 
I had never seen in my life.  And this was in Evanston! 

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From Jeff.Beamsley at covisint.com  Thu Apr 14 11:26:39 2011
From: Jeff.Beamsley at covisint.com (Beamsley, Jeff)
Date: Thu Apr 14 11:27:09 2011
Subject: [NU Sports] NU/ND renew football rivalry - just announced
	onMike&Mike ESPN show
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	<320653.63614.qm@web121705.mail.ne1.yahoo.com>
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I LOVE IT!

If you want to be the best, you have to play the best.

What better way to throw down the gauntlet for all those folks from the
Chicago area who currently make the weekly pilgrimage to South Bend.
Now they will have a choice.  Drive to SB to see ND play BYU or stay
home and see NU play Nebraska.  

If NU wants to be Chicago's BT team, we have to start acting like it.  

That means nc games that people in Chicago are going to want to see (ND,
Cal, BC, etc.).

It also means that the BEST of the BT will be playing in Evanston too.  

I'm sure the Fitz is all in and ready for the challenge.  

This is our opportunity to demonstrate that we CAN play with the big
boys.

Jeff


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From: nwu-sports-bounces@tssi.com [mailto:nwu-sports-bounces@tssi.com]
On Behalf Of SjT (Stephen J. Truog)
Sent: Thursday, April 14, 2011 11:06 AM
To: nwu-sports@tssi.com
Subject: RE: [NU Sports] NU/ND renew football rivalry - just announced
onMike&Mike ESPN show

Another big score for AD Phillips - Notre Dame, in OUR house!

I just wish we had a bye before the game in South Bend so we could enjoy
two weeks of reliving the 17-15 game. :)

Our NC schedule has certainly been beefed up and I LOVE this game -
especially that it's a home and home ... not home and Soldier Field or
home and two away. Nice job all around by Phillips!

However ...

You can't ignore that when looking at our schedules for the next few
years now that it's gonna get awfully tough, awfully fast. Our Big Ten
schedule now includes five of the following six (OSU, UM, Wisky, Iowa,
PSU and Nebraska), plus our annual Illini rivalry, plus always tricky
Sparty, plus Cal/BC/ND (Cal and ND both in 2014). That's not just adding
a few tougher games - that's playing 4 or 5 of the legendary names in
the sport every year, along with 4 or 5 other pretty darn good teams.

Can Persa stay another 4-5 years? :)

But overall, kudos to Phillips and everyone at NU - this is a huge coup
and I can't wait to see the F'ing Irish walk into Ryan Field and see the
place packed in PURPLE!

GO CATS!!!
-SjT

* * * * * * * * *
STEPHEN J. TRUOG
sjtruog@yahoo.com
GO CATS!!! GEAUX SAINTS!!!
Super Bowl XLIV Champions!
==========================

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From nolan at romaine.tssi.com  Thu Apr 14 11:50:49 2011
From: nolan at romaine.tssi.com (Mike Nolan)
Date: Thu Apr 14 11:50:51 2011
Subject: [NU Sports] NU/ND renew football rivalry - just announced
In-Reply-To: <FA7822545C26F244823CA5D312ABBDEA0702F233@nasa-dtw-ex006.nasa.cpwr.corp>
	from "Beamsley, Jeff" at Apr 14, 2011 12:26:39 PM
Message-ID: <201104141650.p3EGonph027713@romaine.tssi.com>

Gee, wasn't it all that long ago that everyone on the list
was saying that Big Ten schools shouldn't schedule Notre Dame?
--
Mike Nolan

> 
> I LOVE IT!
> 
> If you want to be the best, you have to play the best.
> 
> What better way to throw down the gauntlet for all those folks from the
> Chicago area who currently make the weekly pilgrimage to South Bend.
> Now they will have a choice.  Drive to SB to see ND play BYU or stay
> home and see NU play Nebraska.  
> 
> If NU wants to be Chicago's BT team, we have to start acting like it.  
> 
> That means nc games that people in Chicago are going to want to see (ND,
> Cal, BC, etc.).
> 
> It also means that the BEST of the BT will be playing in Evanston too.  
> 
> I'm sure the Fitz is all in and ready for the challenge.  
> 
> This is our opportunity to demonstrate that we CAN play with the big
> boys.
> 
> Jeff
> 
> 
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> 
> From: nwu-sports-bounces@tssi.com [mailto:nwu-sports-bounces@tssi.com]
> On Behalf Of SjT (Stephen J. Truog)
> Sent: Thursday, April 14, 2011 11:06 AM
> To: nwu-sports@tssi.com
> Subject: RE: [NU Sports] NU/ND renew football rivalry - just announced
> onMike&Mike ESPN show
> 
> Another big score for AD Phillips - Notre Dame, in OUR house!
> 
> I just wish we had a bye before the game in South Bend so we could enjoy
> two weeks of reliving the 17-15 game. :)
> 
> Our NC schedule has certainly been beefed up and I LOVE this game -
> especially that it's a home and home ... not home and Soldier Field or
> home and two away. Nice job all around by Phillips!
> 
> However ...
> 
> You can't ignore that when looking at our schedules for the next few
> years now that it's gonna get awfully tough, awfully fast. Our Big Ten
> schedule now includes five of the following six (OSU, UM, Wisky, Iowa,
> PSU and Nebraska), plus our annual Illini rivalry, plus always tricky
> Sparty, plus Cal/BC/ND (Cal and ND both in 2014). That's not just adding
> a few tougher games - that's playing 4 or 5 of the legendary names in
> the sport every year, along with 4 or 5 other pretty darn good teams.
> 
> Can Persa stay another 4-5 years? :)
> 
> But overall, kudos to Phillips and everyone at NU - this is a huge coup
> and I can't wait to see the F'ing Irish walk into Ryan Field and see the
> place packed in PURPLE!
> 
> GO CATS!!!
> -SjT
> 
> * * * * * * * * *
> STEPHEN J. TRUOG
> sjtruog@yahoo.com
> GO CATS!!! GEAUX SAINTS!!!
> Super Bowl XLIV Champions!
> ==========================
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From herms at hotmail.com  Thu Apr 14 11:53:56 2011
From: herms at hotmail.com (Herman Wang)
Date: Thu Apr 14 11:54:23 2011
Subject: [NU Sports] NU/ND renew football rivalry - just announced
In-Reply-To: <201104141650.p3EGonph027713@romaine.tssi.com>
References: <FA7822545C26F244823CA5D312ABBDEA0702F233@nasa-dtw-ex006.nasa.cpwr.corp>
Message-ID: <SNT104-W47D9F15BE1D64841293213AEAD0@phx.gbl>


No kidding, and weren't we all crowing about how irrelevant on the national stage Notre Dame is these days?  So how does that make us look, hyping up this series as if all the world should care?  We're just enabling the Notre Dame hype machine and validating them as a Chicago team.
Herman



> From: nolan@romaine.tssi.com
> Subject: Re: [NU Sports] NU/ND renew football rivalry - just announced
> To: Jeff.Beamsley@covisint.com
> Date: Thu, 14 Apr 2011 11:50:49 -0500
> CC: nwu-sports@tssi.com
> 
> Gee, wasn't it all that long ago that everyone on the list
> was saying that Big Ten schools shouldn't schedule Notre Dame?
> --
> Mike Nolan
> 
> > 
> > I LOVE IT!
> > 
> > If you want to be the best, you have to play the best.
> > 
> > What better way to throw down the gauntlet for all those folks from the
> > Chicago area who currently make the weekly pilgrimage to South Bend.
> > Now they will have a choice.  Drive to SB to see ND play BYU or stay
> > home and see NU play Nebraska.  
> > 
> > If NU wants to be Chicago's BT team, we have to start acting like it.  
> > 
> > That means nc games that people in Chicago are going to want to see (ND,
> > Cal, BC, etc.).
> > 
> > It also means that the BEST of the BT will be playing in Evanston too.  
> > 
> > I'm sure the Fitz is all in and ready for the challenge.  
> > 
> > This is our opportunity to demonstrate that we CAN play with the big
> > boys.
> > 
> > Jeff
> > 
> > 
> > The contents of this e-mail are intended for the named addressee only. It contains information that may be confidential. Unless you are the named addressee or an authorized designee, you may not copy or use it, or disclose it to anyone else. If you received it in error please notify us immediately and then destroy it.
> > 
> > From: nwu-sports-bounces@tssi.com [mailto:nwu-sports-bounces@tssi.com]
> > On Behalf Of SjT (Stephen J. Truog)
> > Sent: Thursday, April 14, 2011 11:06 AM
> > To: nwu-sports@tssi.com
> > Subject: RE: [NU Sports] NU/ND renew football rivalry - just announced
> > onMike&Mike ESPN show
> > 
> > Another big score for AD Phillips - Notre Dame, in OUR house!
> > 
> > I just wish we had a bye before the game in South Bend so we could enjoy
> > two weeks of reliving the 17-15 game. :)
> > 
> > Our NC schedule has certainly been beefed up and I LOVE this game -
> > especially that it's a home and home ... not home and Soldier Field or
> > home and two away. Nice job all around by Phillips!
> > 
> > However ...
> > 
> > You can't ignore that when looking at our schedules for the next few
> > years now that it's gonna get awfully tough, awfully fast. Our Big Ten
> > schedule now includes five of the following six (OSU, UM, Wisky, Iowa,
> > PSU and Nebraska), plus our annual Illini rivalry, plus always tricky
> > Sparty, plus Cal/BC/ND (Cal and ND both in 2014). That's not just adding
> > a few tougher games - that's playing 4 or 5 of the legendary names in
> > the sport every year, along with 4 or 5 other pretty darn good teams.
> > 
> > Can Persa stay another 4-5 years? :)
> > 
> > But overall, kudos to Phillips and everyone at NU - this is a huge coup
> > and I can't wait to see the F'ing Irish walk into Ryan Field and see the
> > place packed in PURPLE!
> > 
> > GO CATS!!!
> > -SjT
> > 
> > * * * * * * * * *
> > STEPHEN J. TRUOG
> > sjtruog@yahoo.com
> > GO CATS!!! GEAUX SAINTS!!!
> > Super Bowl XLIV Champions!
> > ==========================
> > 
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From Jeff.Beamsley at covisint.com  Thu Apr 14 12:05:25 2011
From: Jeff.Beamsley at covisint.com (Beamsley, Jeff)
Date: Thu Apr 14 12:05:45 2011
Subject: [NU Sports] NU/ND renew football rivalry - just announced
In-Reply-To: <SNT104-W47D9F15BE1D64841293213AEAD0@phx.gbl>
References: <FA7822545C26F244823CA5D312ABBDEA0702F233@nasa-dtw-ex006.nasa.cpwr.corp>
	<SNT104-W47D9F15BE1D64841293213AEAD0@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <FA7822545C26F244823CA5D312ABBDEA0702F251@nasa-dtw-ex006.nasa.cpwr.corp>

Chicago does have a strong Catholic school system with will naturally
inject some ND bias into the mix.  

 

At the end of the day, it all depends on the score.

 

The best way for NU to combat any hype advantage that ND may have is to
beat them on the field and have a born and bred south side Chicago Irish
Catholic guy on the NU sidelines orchestrating the victory. 

 

Jeff

 

 

From: Herman Wang [mailto:herms@hotmail.com] 
Sent: Thursday, April 14, 2011 12:54 PM
To: nolan@romaine.tssi.com; Beamsley, Jeff
Cc: nwu-sports@tssi.com
Subject: RE: [NU Sports] NU/ND renew football rivalry - just announced

 

No kidding, and weren't we all crowing about how irrelevant on the
national stage Notre Dame is these days?  So how does that make us look,
hyping up this series as if all the world should care?  We're just
enabling the Notre Dame hype machine and validating them as a Chicago
team.

 

Herman

 



> From: nolan@romaine.tssi.com
> Subject: Re: [NU Sports] NU/ND renew football rivalry - just announced
> To: Jeff.Beamsley@covisint.com
> Date: Thu, 14 Apr 2011 11:50:49 -0500
> CC: nwu-sports@tssi.com
> 
> Gee, wasn't it all that long ago that everyone on the list
> was saying that Big Ten schools shouldn't schedule Notre Dame?
> --
> Mike Nolan
> 
> > 
> > I LOVE IT!
> > 
> > If you want to be the best, you have to play the best.
> > 
> > What better way to throw down the gauntlet for all those folks from
the
> > Chicago area who currently make the weekly pilgrimage to South Bend.
> > Now they will have a choice. Drive to SB to see ND play BYU or stay
> > home and see NU play Nebraska. 
> > 
> > If NU wants to be Chicago's BT team, we have to start acting like
it. 
> > 
> > That means nc games that people in Chicago are going to want to see
(ND,
> > Cal, BC, etc.).
> > 
> > It also means that the BEST of the BT will be playing in Evanston
too. 
> > 
> > I'm sure the Fitz is all in and ready for the challenge. 
> > 
> > This is our opportunity to demonstrate that we CAN play with the big
> > boys.
> > 
> > Jeff
> > 
> > 
> > The contents of this e-mail are intended for the named addressee
only. It contains information that may be confidential. Unless you are
the named addressee or an authorized designee, you may not copy or use
it, or disclose it to anyone else. If you received it in error please
notify us immediately and then destroy it.
> > 
> > From: nwu-sports-bounces@tssi.com
[mailto:nwu-sports-bounces@tssi.com]
> > On Behalf Of SjT (Stephen J. Truog)
> > Sent: Thursday, April 14, 2011 11:06 AM
> > To: nwu-sports@tssi.com
> > Subject: RE: [NU Sports] NU/ND renew football rivalry - just
announced
> > onMike&Mike ESPN show
> > 
> > Another big score for AD Phillips - Notre Dame, in OUR house!
> > 
> > I just wish we had a bye before the game in South Bend so we could
enjoy
> > two weeks of reliving the 17-15 game. :)
> > 
> > Our NC schedule has certainly been beefed up and I LOVE this game -
> > especially that it's a home and home ... not home and Soldier Field
or
> > home and two away. Nice job all around by Phillips!
> > 
> > However ...
> > 
> > You can't ignore that when looking at our schedules for the next few
> > years now that it's gonna get awfully tough, awfully fast. Our Big
Ten
> > schedule now includes five of the following six (OSU, UM, Wisky,
Iowa,
> > PSU and Nebraska), plus our annual Illini rivalry, plus always
tricky
> > Sparty, plus Cal/BC/ND (Cal and ND both in 2014). That's not just
adding
> > a few tougher games - that's playing 4 or 5 of the legendary names
in
> > the sport every year, along with 4 or 5 other pretty darn good
teams.
> > 
> > Can Persa stay another 4-5 years? :)
> > 
> > But overall, kudos to Phillips and everyone at NU - this is a huge
coup
> > and I can't wait to see the F'ing Irish walk into Ryan Field and see
the
> > place packed in PURPLE!
> > 
> > GO CATS!!!
> > -SjT
> > 
> > * * * * * * * * *
> > STEPHEN J. TRUOG
> > sjtruog@yahoo.com
> > GO CATS!!! GEAUX SAINTS!!!
> > Super Bowl XLIV Champions!
> > ==========================
> > 
> > _______________________________________________
> > nwu-sports site list
> > nwu-sports@tssi.com
> > http://romaine.tssi.com/mailman/listinfo/nwu-sports
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > _______________________________________________
> > nwu-sports site list
> > nwu-sports@tssi.com
> > http://romaine.tssi.com/mailman/listinfo/nwu-sports
> > 
> 
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> nwu-sports@tssi.com
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From neonrye at aol.com  Thu Apr 14 12:13:54 2011
From: neonrye at aol.com (neonrye@aol.com)
Date: Thu Apr 14 12:13:18 2011
Subject: [NU Sports] NU/ND renew football rivalry - just announced
In-Reply-To: <SNT104-W47D9F15BE1D64841293213AEAD0@phx.gbl>
References: <FA7822545C26F244823CA5D312ABBDEA0702F233@nasa-dtw-ex006.nasa.cpwr.corp><SNT104-W47D9F15BE1D64841293213AEAD0@phx.gbl>
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Let's look at glass as half-ful, not empty.  This shows we are no longer doormats.  We have a happenin' program (and Fitz is becoming a media darling)and no matter how annoying the ND hype, this just helps raise OUR national visibility--remember we will be on NBC in 2014 when we play in South Bend.   
Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry

-----Original Message-----
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Sender: nwu-sports-bounces@tssi.com
Date: Thu, 14 Apr 2011 12:53:56 
To: <nolan@romaine.tssi.com>; <jeff.beamsley@covisint.com>
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Subject: RE: [NU Sports] NU/ND renew football rivalry - just announced


No kidding, and weren't we all crowing about how irrelevant on the national stage Notre Dame is these days?  So how does that make us look, hyping up this series as if all the world should care?  We're just enabling the Notre Dame hype machine and validating them as a Chicago team.
Herman



> From: nolan@romaine.tssi.com
> Subject: Re: [NU Sports] NU/ND renew football rivalry - just announced
> To: Jeff.Beamsley@covisint.com
> Date: Thu, 14 Apr 2011 11:50:49 -0500
> CC: nwu-sports@tssi.com
> 
> Gee, wasn't it all that long ago that everyone on the list
> was saying that Big Ten schools shouldn't schedule Notre Dame?
> --
> Mike Nolan
> 
> > 
> > I LOVE IT!
> > 
> > If you want to be the best, you have to play the best.
> > 
> > What better way to throw down the gauntlet for all those folks from the
> > Chicago area who currently make the weekly pilgrimage to South Bend.
> > Now they will have a choice.  Drive to SB to see ND play BYU or stay
> > home and see NU play Nebraska.  
> > 
> > If NU wants to be Chicago's BT team, we have to start acting like it.  
> > 
> > That means nc games that people in Chicago are going to want to see (ND,
> > Cal, BC, etc.).
> > 
> > It also means that the BEST of the BT will be playing in Evanston too.  
> > 
> > I'm sure the Fitz is all in and ready for the challenge.  
> > 
> > This is our opportunity to demonstrate that we CAN play with the big
> > boys.
> > 
> > Jeff
> > 
> > 
> > The contents of this e-mail are intended for the named addressee only. It contains information that may be confidential. Unless you are the named addressee or an authorized designee, you may not copy or use it, or disclose it to anyone else. If you received it in error please notify us immediately and then destroy it.
> > 
> > From: nwu-sports-bounces@tssi.com [mailto:nwu-sports-bounces@tssi.com]
> > On Behalf Of SjT (Stephen J. Truog)
> > Sent: Thursday, April 14, 2011 11:06 AM
> > To: nwu-sports@tssi.com
> > Subject: RE: [NU Sports] NU/ND renew football rivalry - just announced
> > onMike&Mike ESPN show
> > 
> > Another big score for AD Phillips - Notre Dame, in OUR house!
> > 
> > I just wish we had a bye before the game in South Bend so we could enjoy
> > two weeks of reliving the 17-15 game. :)
> > 
> > Our NC schedule has certainly been beefed up and I LOVE this game -
> > especially that it's a home and home ... not home and Soldier Field or
> > home and two away. Nice job all around by Phillips!
> > 
> > However ...
> > 
> > You can't ignore that when looking at our schedules for the next few
> > years now that it's gonna get awfully tough, awfully fast. Our Big Ten
> > schedule now includes five of the following six (OSU, UM, Wisky, Iowa,
> > PSU and Nebraska), plus our annual Illini rivalry, plus always tricky
> > Sparty, plus Cal/BC/ND (Cal and ND both in 2014). That's not just adding
> > a few tougher games - that's playing 4 or 5 of the legendary names in
> > the sport every year, along with 4 or 5 other pretty darn good teams.
> > 
> > Can Persa stay another 4-5 years? :)
> > 
> > But overall, kudos to Phillips and everyone at NU - this is a huge coup
> > and I can't wait to see the F'ing Irish walk into Ryan Field and see the
> > place packed in PURPLE!
> > 
> > GO CATS!!!
> > -SjT
> > 
> > * * * * * * * * *
> > STEPHEN J. TRUOG
> > sjtruog@yahoo.com
> > GO CATS!!! GEAUX SAINTS!!!
> > Super Bowl XLIV Champions!
> > ==========================
> > 
> >_______________________________________________
> > nwu-sports site list
> > nwu-sports@tssi.com
> > http://romaine.tssi.com/mailman/listinfo/nwu-sports
> > 
> > 
> > 
> >_______________________________________________
> > nwu-sports site list
> > nwu-sports@tssi.com
> > http://romaine.tssi.com/mailman/listinfo/nwu-sports
> > 
> 
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From ivars at radioskonto.lv  Thu Apr 14 12:50:44 2011
From: ivars at radioskonto.lv (Ivars Embrekts)
Date: Thu Apr 14 12:50:53 2011
Subject: [NU Sports] NU/ND renew football rivalry - just announced
In-Reply-To: <201104141650.p3EGonph027713@romaine.tssi.com>
References: <201104141650.p3EGonph027713@romaine.tssi.com>
Message-ID: <4DA733F4.4000400@radioskonto.lv>

I agree!

If we read message from a few months back posters then made them out to 
be the lowest of the low. Now we are almost fainting to be playing them.

I still say NO Big Ten ten (NU included) should play ND until it joins 
the Big Ten or another conference and gives up its NBC schedule.

Mike Nolan wrote:
> Gee, wasn't it all that long ago that everyone on the list
> was saying that Big Ten schools shouldn't schedule Notre Dame?
> --
> Mike Nolan
>
>   
>> I LOVE IT!
>>
>> If you want to be the best, you have to play the best.
>>
>> What better way to throw down the gauntlet for all those folks from the
>> Chicago area who currently make the weekly pilgrimage to South Bend.
>> Now they will have a choice.  Drive to SB to see ND play BYU or stay
>> home and see NU play Nebraska.  
>>
>> If NU wants to be Chicago's BT team, we have to start acting like it.  
>>
>> That means nc games that people in Chicago are going to want to see (ND,
>> Cal, BC, etc.).
>>
>> It also means that the BEST of the BT will be playing in Evanston too.  
>>
>> I'm sure the Fitz is all in and ready for the challenge.  
>>
>> This is our opportunity to demonstrate that we CAN play with the big
>> boys.
>>
>> Jeff
>>
>>
>> The contents of this e-mail are intended for the named addressee only. It contains information that may be confidential. Unless you are the named addressee or an authorized designee, you may not copy or use it, or disclose it to anyone else. If you received it in error please notify us immediately and then destroy it.
>>
>> From: nwu-sports-bounces@tssi.com [mailto:nwu-sports-bounces@tssi.com]
>> On Behalf Of SjT (Stephen J. Truog)
>> Sent: Thursday, April 14, 2011 11:06 AM
>> To: nwu-sports@tssi.com
>> Subject: RE: [NU Sports] NU/ND renew football rivalry - just announced
>> onMike&Mike ESPN show
>>
>> Another big score for AD Phillips - Notre Dame, in OUR house!
>>
>> I just wish we had a bye before the game in South Bend so we could enjoy
>> two weeks of reliving the 17-15 game. :)
>>
>> Our NC schedule has certainly been beefed up and I LOVE this game -
>> especially that it's a home and home ... not home and Soldier Field or
>> home and two away. Nice job all around by Phillips!
>>
>> However ...
>>
>> You can't ignore that when looking at our schedules for the next few
>> years now that it's gonna get awfully tough, awfully fast. Our Big Ten
>> schedule now includes five of the following six (OSU, UM, Wisky, Iowa,
>> PSU and Nebraska), plus our annual Illini rivalry, plus always tricky
>> Sparty, plus Cal/BC/ND (Cal and ND both in 2014). That's not just adding
>> a few tougher games - that's playing 4 or 5 of the legendary names in
>> the sport every year, along with 4 or 5 other pretty darn good teams.
>>
>> Can Persa stay another 4-5 years? :)
>>
>> But overall, kudos to Phillips and everyone at NU - this is a huge coup
>> and I can't wait to see the F'ing Irish walk into Ryan Field and see the
>> place packed in PURPLE!
>>
>> GO CATS!!!
>> -SjT
>>
>> * * * * * * * * *
>> STEPHEN J. TRUOG
>> sjtruog@yahoo.com
>> GO CATS!!! GEAUX SAINTS!!!
>> Super Bowl XLIV Champions!
>> ==========================
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> nwu-sports site list
>> nwu-sports@tssi.com
>> http://romaine.tssi.com/mailman/listinfo/nwu-sports
>>
>>
>>
>> _______________________________________________
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>> nwu-sports@tssi.com
>> http://romaine.tssi.com/mailman/listinfo/nwu-sports
>>
>>     
>
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>
>
>   

From eschoeman at sbcglobal.net  Thu Apr 14 13:24:25 2011
From: eschoeman at sbcglobal.net (Evans Schoeman)
Date: Thu Apr 14 13:24:42 2011
Subject: [NU Sports] NU/ND renew football rivalry - just announced
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References: <FA7822545C26F244823CA5D312ABBDEA0702F233@nasa-dtw-ex006.nasa.cpwr.corp><SNT104-W47D9F15BE1D64841293213AEAD0@phx.gbl>
	<1509244063-1302801190-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-1874965719-@bda544.bisx.prod.on.blackberry>
Message-ID: <826228.66785.qm@web83912.mail.sp1.yahoo.com>

This is big news on the NU side, but I couldn't find even a mention of this on 
ND's sports site.






________________________________
From: "neonrye@aol.com" <neonrye@aol.com>
To: Herman Wang <herms@hotmail.com>; nwu-sports-bounces@tssi.com; 
nolan@romaine.tssi.com; jeff.beamsley@covisint.com
Cc: nwu-sports@tssi.com
Sent: Thu, April 14, 2011 12:13:54 PM
Subject: Re: [NU Sports] NU/ND renew football rivalry - just announced

Let's look at glass as half-ful, not empty.? This shows we are no longer 
doormats.? We have a happenin' program (and Fitz is becoming a media darling)and 
no matter how annoying the ND hype, this just helps raise OUR national 
visibility--remember we will be on NBC in 2014 when we play in South Bend.? 

Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry

-----Original Message-----
From: Herman Wang <herms@hotmail.com>
Sender: nwu-sports-bounces@tssi.com
Date: Thu, 14 Apr 2011 12:53:56 
To: <nolan@romaine.tssi.com>; <jeff.beamsley@covisint.com>
Cc: <nwu-sports@tssi.com>
Subject: RE: [NU Sports] NU/ND renew football rivalry - just announced


No kidding, and weren't we all crowing about how irrelevant on the national 
stage Notre Dame is these days?? So how does that make us look, hyping up this 
series as if all the world should care?? We're just enabling the Notre Dame hype 
machine and validating them as a Chicago team.
Herman



> From: nolan@romaine.tssi.com
> Subject: Re: [NU Sports] NU/ND renew football rivalry - just announced
> To: Jeff.Beamsley@covisint.com
> Date: Thu, 14 Apr 2011 11:50:49 -0500
> CC: nwu-sports@tssi.com
> 
> Gee, wasn't it all that long ago that everyone on the list
> was saying that Big Ten schools shouldn't schedule Notre Dame?
> --
> Mike Nolan
> 
> > 
> > I LOVE IT!
> > 
> > If you want to be the best, you have to play the best.
> > 
> > What better way to throw down the gauntlet for all those folks from the
> > Chicago area who currently make the weekly pilgrimage to South Bend.
> > Now they will have a choice.? Drive to SB to see ND play BYU or stay
> > home and see NU play Nebraska.? 
> > 
> > If NU wants to be Chicago's BT team, we have to start acting like it.? 
> > 
> > That means nc games that people in Chicago are going to want to see (ND,
> > Cal, BC, etc.).
> > 
> > It also means that the BEST of the BT will be playing in Evanston too.? 
> > 
> > I'm sure the Fitz is all in and ready for the challenge.? 
> > 
> > This is our opportunity to demonstrate that we CAN play with the big
> > boys.
> > 
> > Jeff
> > 
> > 
> > The contents of this e-mail are intended for the named addressee only. It 
>contains information that may be confidential. Unless you are the named 
>addressee or an authorized designee, you may not copy or use it, or disclose it 
>to anyone else. If you received it in error please notify us immediately and 
>then destroy it.
> > 
> > From: nwu-sports-bounces@tssi.com [mailto:nwu-sports-bounces@tssi.com]
> > On Behalf Of SjT (Stephen J. Truog)
> > Sent: Thursday, April 14, 2011 11:06 AM
> > To: nwu-sports@tssi.com
> > Subject: RE: [NU Sports] NU/ND renew football rivalry - just announced
> > onMike&Mike ESPN show
> > 
> > Another big score for AD Phillips - Notre Dame, in OUR house!
> > 
> > I just wish we had a bye before the game in South Bend so we could enjoy
> > two weeks of reliving the 17-15 game. :)
> > 
> > Our NC schedule has certainly been beefed up and I LOVE this game -
> > especially that it's a home and home ... not home and Soldier Field or
> > home and two away. Nice job all around by Phillips!
> > 
> > However ...
> > 
> > You can't ignore that when looking at our schedules for the next few
> > years now that it's gonna get awfully tough, awfully fast. Our Big Ten
> > schedule now includes five of the following six (OSU, UM, Wisky, Iowa,
> > PSU and Nebraska), plus our annual Illini rivalry, plus always tricky
> > Sparty, plus Cal/BC/ND (Cal and ND both in 2014). That's not just adding
> > a few tougher games - that's playing 4 or 5 of the legendary names in
> > the sport every year, along with 4 or 5 other pretty darn good teams.
> > 
> > Can Persa stay another 4-5 years? :)
> > 
> > But overall, kudos to Phillips and everyone at NU - this is a huge coup
> > and I can't wait to see the F'ing Irish walk into Ryan Field and see the
> > place packed in PURPLE!
> > 
> > GO CATS!!!
> > -SjT
> > 
> > * * * * * * * * *
> > STEPHEN J. TRUOG
> > sjtruog@yahoo.com
> > GO CATS!!! GEAUX SAINTS!!!
> > Super Bowl XLIV Champions!
> > ==========================
> > 
> >_______________________________________________
> > nwu-sports site list
> > nwu-sports@tssi.com
> > http://romaine.tssi.com/mailman/listinfo/nwu-sports
> > 
> > 
> > 
> >_______________________________________________
> > nwu-sports site list
> > nwu-sports@tssi.com
> > http://romaine.tssi.com/mailman/listinfo/nwu-sports
> > 
> 
>_______________________________________________
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From AJWDBW at aol.com  Thu Apr 14 13:27:40 2011
From: AJWDBW at aol.com (AJWDBW@aol.com)
Date: Thu Apr 14 13:28:29 2011
Subject: [NU Sports] NU/ND renew football rivalry - just announced
Message-ID: <33d31.4b2da81a.3ad8969c@aol.com>

They might be "down" this year, but who knows what their status will be in  
2014. NU also would be provided exposure to those Notre Dame followers 
outside  of the Mid-west who don't even know where Northwestern is. 
Don Williams, C55
 
 
In a message dated 4/14/2011 12:51:11 P.M. Central Daylight Time,  
ivars@radioskonto.lv writes:

I  agree!

If we read message from a few months back posters then made them  out to 
be the lowest of the low. Now we are almost fainting to be playing  them.

I still say NO Big Ten ten (NU included) should play ND until it  joins 
the Big Ten or another conference and gives up its NBC  schedule.

Mike Nolan wrote:
> Gee, wasn't it all that long ago  that everyone on the list
> was saying that Big Ten schools shouldn't  schedule Notre Dame?
> --
> Mike Nolan
>
>    
>> I LOVE IT!
>>
>> If you want to be the best,  you have to play the best.
>>
>> What better way to throw  down the gauntlet for all those folks from the
>> Chicago area who  currently make the weekly pilgrimage to South Bend.
>> Now they will  have a choice.  Drive to SB to see ND play BYU or stay
>> home  and see NU play Nebraska.  
>>
>> If NU wants to be  Chicago's BT team, we have to start acting like it.   
>>
>> That means nc games that people in Chicago are going  to want to see (ND,
>> Cal, BC, etc.).
>>
>> It  also means that the BEST of the BT will be playing in Evanston too.  
 
>>
>> I'm sure the Fitz is all in and ready for the  challenge.  
>>
>> This is our opportunity to  demonstrate that we CAN play with the big
>>  boys.
>>
>> Jeff
>>
>>
>> The  contents of this e-mail are intended for the named addressee only. 
It contains  information that may be confidential. Unless you are the named 
addressee or an  authorized designee, you may not copy or use it, or 
disclose it to anyone  else. If you received it in error please notify us 
immediately and then  destroy it.
>>
>> From: nwu-sports-bounces@tssi.com  [mailto:nwu-sports-bounces@tssi.com]
>> On Behalf Of SjT (Stephen J.  Truog)
>> Sent: Thursday, April 14, 2011 11:06 AM
>> To:  nwu-sports@tssi.com
>> Subject: RE: [NU Sports] NU/ND renew football  rivalry - just announced
>> onMike&Mike ESPN  show
>>
>> Another big score for AD Phillips - Notre Dame,  in OUR house!
>>
>> I just wish we had a bye before the game  in South Bend so we could enjoy
>> two weeks of reliving the 17-15  game. :)
>>
>> Our NC schedule has certainly been beefed up  and I LOVE this game -
>> especially that it's a home and home ...  not home and Soldier Field or
>> home and two away. Nice job all  around by Phillips!
>>
>> However  ...
>>
>> You can't ignore that when looking at our  schedules for the next few
>> years now that it's gonna get awfully  tough, awfully fast. Our Big Ten
>> schedule now includes five of the  following six (OSU, UM, Wisky, Iowa,
>> PSU and Nebraska), plus our  annual Illini rivalry, plus always tricky
>> Sparty, plus Cal/BC/ND  (Cal and ND both in 2014). That's not just adding
>> a few tougher  games - that's playing 4 or 5 of the legendary names in
>> the sport  every year, along with 4 or 5 other pretty darn good  teams.
>>
>> Can Persa stay another 4-5 years?  :)
>>
>> But overall, kudos to Phillips and everyone at NU -  this is a huge coup
>> and I can't wait to see the F'ing Irish walk  into Ryan Field and see the
>> place packed in  PURPLE!
>>
>> GO CATS!!!
>>  -SjT
>>
>> * * * * * * * * *
>> STEPHEN J.  TRUOG
>> sjtruog@yahoo.com
>> GO CATS!!! GEAUX  SAINTS!!!
>> Super Bowl XLIV Champions!
>>  ==========================
>>
>>  _______________________________________________
>> nwu-sports site  list
>> nwu-sports@tssi.com
>>  http://romaine.tssi.com/mailman/listinfo/nwu-sports
>>
>>
>>
>>  _______________________________________________
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>> nwu-sports@tssi.com
>>  http://romaine.tssi.com/mailman/listinfo/nwu-sports
>>
>>   
>
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From hakirsch at aol.com  Thu Apr 14 13:34:51 2011
From: hakirsch at aol.com (hakirsch@aol.com)
Date: Thu Apr 14 13:35:09 2011
Subject: [NU Sports] NU/ND renew football rivalry - just announced
In-Reply-To: <33d31.4b2da81a.3ad8969c@aol.com>
References: <33d31.4b2da81a.3ad8969c@aol.com>
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Don

I think today a lot more people know who NU is.  I interview kids out in the Bay Area and I am surprised at how much they know of us and if you look at the demographics by region it  is markedly different than 1955 or even 1985.  The percentage of kids that are from Illinois or the Midwest is down significantly


Harry
Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry

-----Original Message-----
From: AJWDBW@aol.com
Sender: nwu-sports-bounces@tssi.com
Date: Thu, 14 Apr 2011 14:27:40 
To: <ivars@radioskonto.lv>; <nolan@romaine.tssi.com>
Cc: <Jeff.Beamsley@covisint.com>; <nwu-sports@tssi.com>
Subject: Re: [NU Sports] NU/ND renew football rivalry - just announced

They might be "down" this year, but who knows what their status will be in  
2014. NU also would be provided exposure to those Notre Dame followers 
outside  of the Mid-west who don't even know where Northwestern is. 
Don Williams, C55
 
 
In a message dated 4/14/2011 12:51:11 P.M. Central Daylight Time,  
ivars@radioskonto.lv writes:

I  agree!

If we read message from a few months back posters then made them  out to 
be the lowest of the low. Now we are almost fainting to be playing  them.

I still say NO Big Ten ten (NU included) should play ND until it  joins 
the Big Ten or another conference and gives up its NBC  schedule.

Mike Nolan wrote:
> Gee, wasn't it all that long ago  that everyone on the list
> was saying that Big Ten schools shouldn't  schedule Notre Dame?
> --
> Mike Nolan
>
>    
>> I LOVE IT!
>>
>> If you want to be the best,  you have to play the best.
>>
>> What better way to throw  down the gauntlet for all those folks from the
>> Chicago area who  currently make the weekly pilgrimage to South Bend.
>> Now they will  have a choice.  Drive to SB to see ND play BYU or stay
>> home  and see NU play Nebraska.  
>>
>> If NU wants to be  Chicago's BT team, we have to start acting like it.   
>>
>> That means nc games that people in Chicago are going  to want to see (ND,
>> Cal, BC, etc.).
>>
>> It  also means that the BEST of the BT will be playing in Evanston too.  
 
>>
>> I'm sure the Fitz is all in and ready for the  challenge.  
>>
>> This is our opportunity to  demonstrate that we CAN play with the big
>>  boys.
>>
>> Jeff
>>
>>
>> The  contents of this e-mail are intended for the named addressee only. 
It contains  information that may be confidential. Unless you are the named 
addressee or an  authorized designee, you may not copy or use it, or 
disclose it to anyone  else. If you received it in error please notify us 
immediately and then  destroy it.
>>
>> From: nwu-sports-bounces@tssi.com  [mailto:nwu-sports-bounces@tssi.com]
>> On Behalf Of SjT (Stephen J.  Truog)
>> Sent: Thursday, April 14, 2011 11:06 AM
>> To:  nwu-sports@tssi.com
>> Subject: RE: [NU Sports] NU/ND renew football  rivalry - just announced
>> onMike&Mike ESPN  show
>>
>> Another big score for AD Phillips - Notre Dame,  in OUR house!
>>
>> I just wish we had a bye before the game  in South Bend so we could enjoy
>> two weeks of reliving the 17-15  game. :)
>>
>> Our NC schedule has certainly been beefed up  and I LOVE this game -
>> especially that it's a home and home ...  not home and Soldier Field or
>> home and two away. Nice job all  around by Phillips!
>>
>> However  ...
>>
>> You can't ignore that when looking at our  schedules for the next few
>> years now that it's gonna get awfully  tough, awfully fast. Our Big Ten
>> schedule now includes five of the  following six (OSU, UM, Wisky, Iowa,
>> PSU and Nebraska), plus our  annual Illini rivalry, plus always tricky
>> Sparty, plus Cal/BC/ND  (Cal and ND both in 2014). That's not just adding
>> a few tougher  games - that's playing 4 or 5 of the legendary names in
>> the sport  every year, along with 4 or 5 other pretty darn good  teams.
>>
>> Can Persa stay another 4-5 years?  :)
>>
>> But overall, kudos to Phillips and everyone at NU -  this is a huge coup
>> and I can't wait to see the F'ing Irish walk  into Ryan Field and see the
>> place packed in  PURPLE!
>>
>> GO CATS!!!
>>  -SjT
>>
>> * * * * * * * * *
>> STEPHEN J.  TRUOG
>> sjtruog@yahoo.com
>> GO CATS!!! GEAUX  SAINTS!!!
>> Super Bowl XLIV Champions!
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>>
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From Jeff.Beamsley at covisint.com  Thu Apr 14 14:20:01 2011
From: Jeff.Beamsley at covisint.com (Beamsley, Jeff)
Date: Thu Apr 14 14:20:25 2011
Subject: [NU Sports] NU/ND renew football rivalry - just announced
In-Reply-To: <4DA733F4.4000400@radioskonto.lv>
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I think the BT expansion train as far as ND is concerned has left the
station.

 

If they came to Delaney today and asked to be in, he might very well say
no because the dust has so recently settled on the new divisional
structure with Nebraska. 

 

So I question what we (NU and BT) have to gain by "freezing" ND out of
our schedule. 

 

We are already beating them in TV ratings.  If we can continue to beat
them on the field and in the rankings, we will at some point also begin
to beat them in recruiting.  

 

IMHO that is the best way to accelerate their decline.  The latest
incident with Michael Floyd is evidence of how desperate ND and Kelly
are to win.  It's another step on their road to becoming just another
"football first" school. 

 

By 2015, when the ND TV contract expires, the BT could easily be in a
position where ND is more valuable to us as a quality NC game for
neighboring BT schools than an actual member of the conference.

 

Jeff

 

 

From: Ivars Embrekts [mailto:ivars@radioskonto.lv] 
Sent: Thursday, April 14, 2011 1:51 PM
To: Mike Nolan
Cc: Beamsley, Jeff; nwu-sports@tssi.com
Subject: Re: [NU Sports] NU/ND renew football rivalry - just announced

 

I agree!

If we read message from a few months back posters then made them out to
be the lowest of the low. Now we are almost fainting to be playing them.

I still say NO Big Ten ten (NU included) should play ND until it joins
the Big Ten or another conference and gives up its NBC schedule.

Mike Nolan wrote: 

Gee, wasn't it all that long ago that everyone on the list
was saying that Big Ten schools shouldn't schedule Notre Dame?
--
Mike Nolan
 
  

	I LOVE IT!
	 
	If you want to be the best, you have to play the best.
	 
	What better way to throw down the gauntlet for all those folks
from the
	Chicago area who currently make the weekly pilgrimage to South
Bend.
	Now they will have a choice.  Drive to SB to see ND play BYU or
stay
	home and see NU play Nebraska.  
	 
	If NU wants to be Chicago's BT team, we have to start acting
like it.  
	 
	That means nc games that people in Chicago are going to want to
see (ND,
	Cal, BC, etc.).
	 
	It also means that the BEST of the BT will be playing in
Evanston too.  
	 
	I'm sure the Fitz is all in and ready for the challenge.  
	 
	This is our opportunity to demonstrate that we CAN play with the
big
	boys.
	 
	Jeff
	 
	 
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	From: nwu-sports-bounces@tssi.com
[mailto:nwu-sports-bounces@tssi.com]
	On Behalf Of SjT (Stephen J. Truog)
	Sent: Thursday, April 14, 2011 11:06 AM
	To: nwu-sports@tssi.com
	Subject: RE: [NU Sports] NU/ND renew football rivalry - just
announced
	onMike&Mike ESPN show
	 
	Another big score for AD Phillips - Notre Dame, in OUR house!
	 
	I just wish we had a bye before the game in South Bend so we
could enjoy
	two weeks of reliving the 17-15 game. :)
	 
	Our NC schedule has certainly been beefed up and I LOVE this
game -
	especially that it's a home and home ... not home and Soldier
Field or
	home and two away. Nice job all around by Phillips!
	 
	However ...
	 
	You can't ignore that when looking at our schedules for the next
few
	years now that it's gonna get awfully tough, awfully fast. Our
Big Ten
	schedule now includes five of the following six (OSU, UM, Wisky,
Iowa,
	PSU and Nebraska), plus our annual Illini rivalry, plus always
tricky
	Sparty, plus Cal/BC/ND (Cal and ND both in 2014). That's not
just adding
	a few tougher games - that's playing 4 or 5 of the legendary
names in
	the sport every year, along with 4 or 5 other pretty darn good
teams.
	 
	Can Persa stay another 4-5 years? :)
	 
	But overall, kudos to Phillips and everyone at NU - this is a
huge coup
	and I can't wait to see the F'ing Irish walk into Ryan Field and
see the
	place packed in PURPLE!
	 
	GO CATS!!!
	-SjT
	 
	* * * * * * * * *
	STEPHEN J. TRUOG
	sjtruog@yahoo.com
	GO CATS!!! GEAUX SAINTS!!!
	Super Bowl XLIV Champions!
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From wildelk2 at aol.com  Sun Apr 17 15:45:43 2011
From: wildelk2 at aol.com (wildelk2@aol.com)
Date: Sun Apr 17 15:46:11 2011
Subject: [NU Sports] Spring Game
Message-ID: <8CDCB578DE007B8-210-4A168@webmail-m147.sysops.aol.com>


   Anyone go to the Spring Game yesterday?  Zilcho commentary regarding the points scored.  I'll double-check, but I believe the game will be televised tonight at 8 EDT and tomorrow night on BTN.  I'll refrain from commenting until I watch the game.



  GO CATS!!   Eric
From tkmaycock at yahoo.com  Sun Apr 17 16:10:30 2011
From: tkmaycock at yahoo.com (Tom Maycock)
Date: Sun Apr 17 16:11:08 2011
Subject: [NU Sports] Spring Game
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I was there, will post later. Fun time, crappy weather.

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   Anyone go to the Spring Game yesterday?  Zilcho commentary regarding the points scored.  I'll double-check, but I believe the game will be televised tonight at 8 EDT and tomorrow night on BTN.  I'll refrain from commenting until I watch the game.



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From tbng at comcast.net  Sun Apr 17 16:30:05 2011
From: tbng at comcast.net (Dennis W. Brandt)
Date: Sun Apr 17 16:30:11 2011
Subject: [NU Sports] Spring Game
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<   Anyone go to the Spring Game yesterday?  Zilcho commentary regarding the 
points scored.  I'll double-check, but I believe the game will be televised 
tonight at 8 EDT and tomorrow night on BTN.  I'll refrain from commenting 
until I watch the game.

Big Ten Network has it on this week.  If memory serves, it's on tomorrow 
night.  But check your listings.



From wildelk2 at aol.com  Sun Apr 17 22:02:56 2011
From: wildelk2 at aol.com (wildelk2@aol.com)
Date: Sun Apr 17 22:03:16 2011
Subject: [NU Sports] 9/17 at Army
Message-ID: <8CDCB8C4032B97F-1D5C-34DC9@webmail-m069.sysops.aol.com>


    With any luck, we'll have a 3:30 PM kick-off at Army.  The kickoff on Army's web site is listed as 12 or 3:30, and on 9/17 Navy plays at South Carolina. Why is that important?  When Navy and Army play home games at the same time,  CSTV always has Army kick off at 12 and Navy at 3:30.  When Navy's on the road and Army's at home, CSTV has pushed Army's kick off back to 3:30.

   Our Cats haven't fared too well in NY/NJ.  I remember a 37-0 win over Princeton, but also losses to Army, Syracuse and Rutgers out here.  Dark Ages losses to Army, Syracuse and Rutgers; Truog non-explicable loss at Syracuse a few years ago.  It seems to me that we're starting to get past blowing easy early games. Lord knows with our defense we'll need each and every one.


   GO CATS!!   Eric
From tkmaycock at yahoo.com  Mon Apr 18 09:57:19 2011
From: tkmaycock at yahoo.com (Tom Maycock)
Date: Mon Apr 18 09:57:23 2011
Subject: [NU Sports] Spring Game
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A little Spring Game, er, Exhibition recap:

The weather was the same as its been almost the entire late-winter/spring here 
in Chicago--cloudy, cold, windy. Then it started raining lightly about halfway 
through, so most of the fans moved up under upper deck to stay dry. Timing was 
unfortunate, as Sunday was actually pretty nice. Still chilly, but sunny. 

The first thing I noticed is that NU is finally getting its act together in 
terms of making a coherent, professional (albeit suitably relaxed) event out of 
this. They had a canned food drive at the gates, a table with simple but quality 

pre-printed programs and rosters, food vendors in operation, a very visible 
season-ticket booth down at the foot of the stands (with promotional 
give-aways), a PA announcer explaining the days events and announcing the game, 
the band playing all game, the video screen working (with replays!), and pre- 
and post-game comments from Pat over the PA. 

There were only a few hundred in the stands, per usual (and pretty good 
considering the weather), and there's no sense in making a huge deal out of the 
spring affair--no 70,000 in the stands like at Nebraska, but it's really nice to 

see the team making an effort to welcome fans and to show appreciation for their 

attendance. 

The event started with introductions of the various squads (running backs, 
quaterbacks, etc.), then some warm-ups and drills. The best part of this section 

(and really of the whole day) was seeing Persa out there in sweats jogging 
around, and throwing some passes during the one-on-one QB/WR drills. I'm more 
optimistic than ever that he'll be ready to go. I don't know that he'll be 
full-speed this year, but perhaps the offense around him will be good enough 
that he won't need to use his feet as much. 

The scrimmage was offense versus defense with a point scheme for both sides, and 

essentially the 1's versus 1's, 2's versus 2's, and so on. Something like 24 
players sat out (17 due to injuries, 7 or so by coaches decision), so the 1's 
weren't really the "1's" we'll see in the fall, but you could get a sense of who 

the likely starters and first-line backups will be. 

QB: Colter, Watkins, and Simian all played (in that order) rotating in with the 
different units. They all moved the ball well at times, but they all also missed 

some passes they should have made. Watkins had some good short throws, one laser 

TD pass, and then a couple of bad downfield misses. Simian showed some skills, 
including two nice TD passes, but overall looked to be the least ready of the 3. 

Colter wasn't spectacular throwing the ball (still recovering from arm surgery 
early last year I guess), but as we saw last year, he just makes plays. The 
highlights will show a couple of spectacular moments including a ridiculous 
zig-zagging backwards scramble followed by a great catch, as well as a very 
nifty TD run. 

RB: Smith sat out, Trumpy only carried a couple of times. Seems clear those guys 

will be the top 2. I would assume Schmidt will continue to play a role as well. 
Tyris Jones looked impressive, like he did in the fall scrimmage last year. Big, 

strong, some nice moves, at least one catch. I'd be surprised if he doesn't make 

some plays this year. I'd like to see more 2-back stuff with Jones or Schmidt 
alongside Smith/Trumpy. 

OL: I'm terrible at judging OL versus DL matchups, but they seemed to do OK, 
minus some starters. Certainly didn't dominate, and there were a lot of DL guys 
running free at times, so who knows. We all know they need to be better this 
year.

WR: Charles Brown has supposedly had a great spring, and he looked quick and ran 

nice routes, but dropped one key pass. Made up for it with a nice TD catch. 
Fields looked big and strong, Rashard Lawrence looked his usual self. Folks like 

Ebert, Dunsmore, and Jones sat out, so younger guys got a lot of reps. I think 
we all expect this to be a stellar group this year assuming everyone is 
healthy. 

DL: DiNardo and Browne took the day off, but I thought the guys that played 
looked bigger, stronger, and more athletic than last year. Tyler Scott looks to 
be a starter at the other end, Williams as bulked up, and guys like Carter, 
Hampton, and Mafuli all looked more like B10 players to me. I'm tentatively 
optimistic about this bunch. Overall, I'd say they had the advantage over the 
O-line. Good news for our defense or bad news for our offense? Who knows. 

LB: Johnson was out, and McNaul got dinged up very early on (head or should or 
something--nothing serious apparently). I didn't watch these guys a lot, but 
folks like Proby and Goodlow made some nice plays. 

DB: Pretty pleased with this bunch. Mabin sat out. Jeravin Matthews appears to 
have locked up the other starting CB position, and looked pretty impressive. How 

well he plays could be a big factor in the W-L column this year. Ricky Weina got 

the starting nod with Mabin out, seemed to do OK. I'll always remember him as 
turning in one of the best "filling in for injured starter" appearances for NU 
since Adrian Autry at Wisconsin in '96, so it'd be nice to see him get some 
playing time. Dugar and Bolden were out there. David Arnold saw a lot of time at 

safety. 

Ibraheim Campbell picked up from the fall scrimmage as a guy with the potential 
to be one of our best defensive players in the near future. He made some nice 
plays, did get burned on one TD. Ready to start at safety? Don't know, but 
wouldn't be surprised. I thought our safety play was a big problem last year, so 
we need someone to step up there. 

Special teams: the only punting was in the warm ups. Brandon Williams looked 
good. We know he can kick the crap out of the ball--he just needs to 
reduce/eliminate mistakes and our punting game will become a strength rather 
than a weakness. Both PKs (Budzien and Flaherty) looked pretty good on FGs. 
Accuracy was good, especially given the 20mph cross wind. Distance seemed 
OK--some low trajectories. I don't know that either have the leg of a healthy 
Demos, but it appears we have at least 2 viable options here. We really won't 
know until they start kicking ones that matter.

Tom

From neonrye at aol.com  Mon Apr 18 14:59:01 2011
From: neonrye at aol.com (neonrye@aol.com)
Date: Mon Apr 18 14:59:26 2011
Subject: [NU Sports] NU at Wrigley
Message-ID: <8CDCC1A326A5FC0-1ED4-40154@webmail-m099.sysops.aol.com>


If, as and when Wrigley is renovated, the Cubs and NU want to make NU at Wrigley an annual affair:  http://www.chicagotribune.com/sports/college/ct-spt-0417-wrigley-northwestern-foot20110416,0,109252.story

Paul Levinson (Yes, I'm back in the US of A.)



From tbng at comcast.net  Mon Apr 18 15:25:34 2011
From: tbng at comcast.net (Dennis W. Brandt)
Date: Mon Apr 18 15:25:40 2011
Subject: [NU Sports] NU at Wrigley
References: <8CDCC1A326A5FC0-1ED4-40154@webmail-m099.sysops.aol.com>
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< If, as and when Wrigley is renovated, the Cubs and NU want to make NU at 
Wrigley an annual affair:

Bad idea last year and it will be a bad idea in the future no matter how 
much they alter Wrigley Field.  NU home games should be played in Evanston. 
Period.  And that includes Soldier Field. 

From alan.abrahamson at gmail.com  Mon Apr 18 15:28:22 2011
From: alan.abrahamson at gmail.com (Alan Abrahamson)
Date: Mon Apr 18 15:28:58 2011
Subject: [NU Sports] NU at Wrigley
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Totally, totally disagree. In fact, couldn't disagree more, albeit politely
and respectfully.

Great idea. Loved everything about being at Wrigley. It was like a
regular-season bowl game.

The photo of the Wrigley field (the field itself) painted "Northwestern" is
my laptop wallpaper.



On Mon, Apr 18, 2011 at 1:25 PM, Dennis W. Brandt <tbng@comcast.net> wrote:

> < If, as and when Wrigley is renovated, the Cubs and NU want to make NU at
> Wrigley an annual affair:
>
> Bad idea last year and it will be a bad idea in the future no matter how
> much they alter Wrigley Field.  NU home games should be played in Evanston.
> Period.  And that includes Soldier Field.
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Date: Mon Apr 18 15:32:04 2011
Subject: Fw: [NU Sports] NU at Wrigley
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My own opinion is to scrap it. The maiden voyage got us nice coverage (in spite of a lopsided game) but now the novelty is off. I don't see much benefit except if we were to play an old line team like Army where some of their most famous games occurred at a baseball stadium, and even then I'm not sure an NU/Army game at Wrigley would have huge appeal.  Anyways I'm not a big fan of playing at Wriggler anymore

Harry
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If, as and when Wrigley is renovated, the Cubs and NU want to make NU at Wrigley an annual affair:  http://www.chicagotribune.com/sports/college/ct-spt-0417-wrigley-northwestern-foot20110416,0,109252.story

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From tkmaycock at yahoo.com  Mon Apr 18 15:44:30 2011
From: tkmaycock at yahoo.com (Tom Maycock)
Date: Mon Apr 18 15:44:35 2011
Subject: [NU Sports] NU at Wrigley
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I'm with Alan. It was a brilliant idea, marred only by the execution problems 
with the field layout and by the defense. And I think we win the damn thing with 
a healthy Persa. 

I don't know if you can really appreciate how cool the experience was if you 
weren't in Wrigleyville that day. 

That said, once was enough for me. Or at least for a long while. Do it again in 
5 or 10 years maybe. Need a gimmick game? I'd be OK with a Soldier Field outing, 
but would prefer to stick to Evanston. I love about 90% of the Ryan Field 
experience. 

I get the wisdom of trying to make a regular association between Wildcat 
football and Wrigley, but there just aren't enough good seats for football 
there, no matter how you lay the field out. 

Tom



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> From: Alan Abrahamson <alan.abrahamson@gmail.com>
> To: Dennis W. Brandt <tbng@comcast.net>
> Cc: nwu-sports@romaine.tssi.com; neonrye@aol.com
> Sent: Mon, April 18, 2011 3:28:22 PM
> Subject: Re: [NU Sports] NU at Wrigley
> 
> Totally, totally disagree. In fact, couldn't disagree more, albeit  politely
> and respectfully.
> 
> Great idea. Loved everything about being at  Wrigley. It was like a
> regular-season bowl game.
> 
> The photo of the  Wrigley field (the field itself) painted "Northwestern" is
> my laptop  wallpaper.
> 
> 
> 
> On Mon, Apr 18, 2011 at 1:25 PM, Dennis W. Brandt  <tbng@comcast.net> wrote:
> 
> > <  If, as and when Wrigley is renovated, the Cubs and NU want to make NU at
> >  Wrigley an annual affair:
> >
> > Bad idea last year and it will be a  bad idea in the future no matter how
> > much they alter Wrigley  Field.  NU home games should be played in Evanston.
> > Period.   And that includes Soldier Field.
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From Jeff.Beamsley at covisint.com  Mon Apr 18 15:55:45 2011
From: Jeff.Beamsley at covisint.com (Beamsley, Jeff)
Date: Mon Apr 18 15:56:01 2011
Subject: [NU Sports] NU at Wrigley
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Let's see how season ticket sales go. If they continue to grow, I'm willing to give Phillips the benefit of the doubt.

Jeff

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On Apr 18, 2011, at 4:31 PM, "Alan Abrahamson" <alan.abrahamson@gmail.com> wrote:

> Totally, totally disagree. In fact, couldn't disagree more, albeit politely
> and respectfully.
> 
> Great idea. Loved everything about being at Wrigley. It was like a
> regular-season bowl game.
> 
> The photo of the Wrigley field (the field itself) painted "Northwestern" is
> my laptop wallpaper.
> 
> 
> 
> On Mon, Apr 18, 2011 at 1:25 PM, Dennis W. Brandt <tbng@comcast.net> wrote:
> 
>> < If, as and when Wrigley is renovated, the Cubs and NU want to make NU at
>> Wrigley an annual affair:
>> 
>> Bad idea last year and it will be a bad idea in the future no matter how
>> much they alter Wrigley Field.  NU home games should be played in Evanston.
>> Period.  And that includes Soldier Field.
>> 
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From hakirsch at aol.com  Mon Apr 18 16:01:38 2011
From: hakirsch at aol.com (hakirsch@aol.com)
Date: Mon Apr 18 16:01:45 2011
Subject: [NU Sports] NU at Wrigley
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Yeah I'm fine with Soldier Field ( wish the ND game was there) because its a football venue, located near central Chicago and has a history of old time college football (All Star Game up until 1976)

Harry
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Subject: Re: [NU Sports] NU at Wrigley

I'm with Alan. It was a brilliant idea, marred only by the execution problems 
with the field layout and by the defense. And I think we win the damn thing with 
a healthy Persa. 

I don't know if you can really appreciate how cool the experience was if you 
weren't in Wrigleyville that day. 

That said, once was enough for me. Or at least for a long while. Do it again in 
5 or 10 years maybe. Need a gimmick game? I'd be OK with a Soldier Field outing, 
but would prefer to stick to Evanston. I love about 90% of the Ryan Field 
experience. 

I get the wisdom of trying to make a regular association between Wildcat 
football and Wrigley, but there just aren't enough good seats for football 
there, no matter how you lay the field out. 

Tom



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> From: Alan Abrahamson <alan.abrahamson@gmail.com>
> To: Dennis W. Brandt <tbng@comcast.net>
> Cc: nwu-sports@romaine.tssi.com; neonrye@aol.com
> Sent: Mon, April 18, 2011 3:28:22 PM
> Subject: Re: [NU Sports] NU at Wrigley
> 
> Totally, totally disagree. In fact, couldn't disagree more, albeit  politely
> and respectfully.
> 
> Great idea. Loved everything about being at  Wrigley. It was like a
> regular-season bowl game.
> 
> The photo of the  Wrigley field (the field itself) painted "Northwestern" is
> my laptop  wallpaper.
> 
> 
> 
> On Mon, Apr 18, 2011 at 1:25 PM, Dennis W. Brandt  <tbng@comcast.net> wrote:
> 
> > <  If, as and when Wrigley is renovated, the Cubs and NU want to make NU at
> >  Wrigley an annual affair:
> >
> > Bad idea last year and it will be a  bad idea in the future no matter how
> > much they alter Wrigley  Field.  NU home games should be played in Evanston.
> > Period.   And that includes Soldier Field.
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From MHRJGScott at aol.com  Mon Apr 18 19:03:06 2011
From: MHRJGScott at aol.com (MHRJGScott@aol.com)
Date: Mon Apr 18 19:03:31 2011
Subject: [NU Sports] NU at Wrigley
Message-ID: <70d3.7907a20e.3ade2b3a@aol.com>

Agree with Alan, as usual, BTW happy holiday, wanting to play at Dyche  
instead of Wrigley is like saying the golf team is better off on the Jans goat  
run (aka canal course) than Augusta national. No  contest.
From tbng at comcast.net  Mon Apr 18 20:33:49 2011
From: tbng at comcast.net (Dennis W. Brandt)
Date: Mon Apr 18 20:33:54 2011
Subject: [NU Sports] NU at Wrigley
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<Agree with Alan, as usual, BTW happy holiday, wanting to play at Dyche instead of Wrigley is like saying the golf team is better off on the Jans goat run (aka canal course) than Augusta national. No contest.

Huh?

The grass is greener in Wrigley?  Not if you include the infield.

Wrigley is perfectly built for football?  NOT!

Wrigley has more seating capacity than Dyche?  NO!

More and better parking in the area?  NO!

We don't need to have an affair with that baseball stadium on the north side.  Home cooking works just fine.  Unless your name is Kennedy.
From johnl at mac.com  Mon Apr 18 20:42:35 2011
From: johnl at mac.com (Labbe John)
Date: Mon Apr 18 20:43:45 2011
Subject: [NU Sports] NU at Wrigley
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Then how do you explain the fact that we sold out Wrigley with tickets  
that averaged over $100 each for a game that wouldn't have drawn  
30,000 fans at Ryan Field at an average ticket price under $50?  Or  
the publicity the game attracted, etc.?

I think it's open for debate whether we need an annual game at Wrigley  
(and it certainly wouldn't start anytime soon as the stadium needs to  
be renovated first), but it's quite a stretch to contend that last  
year's game was a bad idea given how successful it was at generating  
revenue and publicity.  Forget about whether last year's game will  
increase ticket sales in the future.  Just for that day alone, NU made  
a nice take versus what it would have made at Ryan Field.

John



On Apr 18, 2011, at 8:33 PM, Dennis W. Brandt wrote:

> <Agree with Alan, as usual, BTW happy holiday, wanting to play at  
> Dyche instead of Wrigley is like saying the golf team is better off  
> on the Jans goat run (aka canal course) than Augusta national. No  
> contest.
>
> Huh?
>
> The grass is greener in Wrigley?  Not if you include the infield.
>
> Wrigley is perfectly built for football?  NOT!
>
> Wrigley has more seating capacity than Dyche?  NO!
>
> More and better parking in the area?  NO!
>
> We don't need to have an affair with that baseball stadium on the  
> north side.  Home cooking works just fine.  Unless your name is  
> Kennedy.
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From tbng at comcast.net  Mon Apr 18 20:53:50 2011
From: tbng at comcast.net (Dennis W. Brandt)
Date: Mon Apr 18 20:54:07 2011
Subject: [NU Sports] NU at Wrigley
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> Then how do you explain the fact that we sold out Wrigley with tickets 
> that averaged over $100 each for a game that wouldn't have drawn  30,000 
> fans at Ryan Field at an average ticket price under $50?  Or  the 
> publicity the game attracted, etc.?
>
> I think it's open for debate whether we need an annual game at Wrigley 
> (and it certainly wouldn't start anytime soon as the stadium needs to  be 
> renovated first), but it's quite a stretch to contend that last  year's 
> game was a bad idea given how successful it was at generating  revenue and 
> publicity.  Forget about whether last year's game will  increase ticket 
> sales in the future.  Just for that day alone, NU made  a nice take versus 
> what it would have made at Ryan Field.
>
One thing and one thing only will guarantee full houses:  vying for the Big 
Ten title year after year and even having a reasonable shot at the national 
championship.  A clich? to anyone who paid $100 to watch football at 
Wrigley:  A fool and his money soon parted. 

From johnl at mac.com  Mon Apr 18 22:59:02 2011
From: johnl at mac.com (Labbe John)
Date: Mon Apr 18 22:59:28 2011
Subject: [NU Sports] NU at Wrigley
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Not me.  We got the $75 tickets and had a great time.  So there.

Regrettably, though, many of our fellow alumni must be fools.


On Apr 18, 2011, at 8:53 PM, Dennis W. Brandt wrote:

>> Then how do you explain the fact that we sold out Wrigley with  
>> tickets that averaged over $100 each for a game that wouldn't have  
>> drawn  30,000 fans at Ryan Field at an average ticket price under  
>> $50?  Or  the publicity the game attracted, etc.?
>>
>> I think it's open for debate whether we need an annual game at  
>> Wrigley (and it certainly wouldn't start anytime soon as the  
>> stadium needs to  be renovated first), but it's quite a stretch to  
>> contend that last  year's game was a bad idea given how successful  
>> it was at generating  revenue and publicity.  Forget about whether  
>> last year's game will  increase ticket sales in the future.  Just  
>> for that day alone, NU made  a nice take versus what it would have  
>> made at Ryan Field.
>>
> One thing and one thing only will guarantee full houses:  vying for  
> the Big Ten title year after year and even having a reasonable shot  
> at the national championship.  A clich? to anyone who paid $100 to  
> watch football at Wrigley:  A fool and his money soon parted.
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From tbng at comcast.net  Tue Apr 19 09:42:02 2011
From: tbng at comcast.net (Dennis W. Brandt)
Date: Tue Apr 19 09:42:07 2011
Subject: [NU Sports] New college football rule
Message-ID: <CA3F4638156B42178AAAA7ED761A6439@dennismachine>

Watched the spring scrimmage last night.  As Tom Maycock reported from being there freezing his tail off, I don't know how anyone could come to any conclusions.  Twenty-four players didn't even suit up.  Fitz knows what he saw, and that's all that counts.  That last "fun" competition requiring ten spins around a baseball bat was hysterical to watch.  Guys afterward tried to run ten yards down the field to hand a bat to the next player while dizzily careening in the wrong direction.

As to the new rule that they mentioned last night, it seems that starting this season, taunting following a score will result in a fifteen-yard penalty from the spot of the previous play, thus wiping out the TD.  I presume it would apply to non-scoring plays, too, but taunting usually occurs after a TD.  I didn't hear if it was a loss-of-down penalty.

I get what they NCAA is trying to do, but I don't like it.  Taunting is a dead-ball foul.  The play is over.  I presume that the refs would not wipe out a score if there is a personal foul following the TD.  So, it's less of a crime to cold-cock a guy than it is to taunt him?  What happens if the TD is a game-winner and everyone erupts?  Behavior permitted on a game-ending play even now is not permitted during the game.  What is taunting and what is celebration?  I can't wait for the uprising the first time that a ref wipes out a game-winning score.

How about they keep the penalty the way it always was and require the offending player to sit for the next 15 game minutes, including the next game if necessary?  If hockey can track penalty minutes, so can football.  Every subsequent taunting foul that season gets that player tossed from the game right then and there, and the third one gets him benched for x number of games transferable to the following season.
From j-hodges at alumni.northwestern.edu  Tue Apr 19 09:48:15 2011
From: j-hodges at alumni.northwestern.edu (Jonathan Hodges)
Date: Tue Apr 19 09:48:42 2011
Subject: [NU Sports] New college football rule
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Just an FYI, I believe the new rule will be a 15 yard penalty from the spot
of the foul (not from the previous spot).  So, taunting in the end zone will
have the same result as before.  BUT the new rule will mean taunting before
reaching the end zone (remember Auburn's 100 yd INT return in the Outback
Bowl) would be penalized from the spot where the taunting occurred and
negate any score.  This rule was announced before last season so everyone
knew it was coming.  I personally have no problem with it as long as they
don't use it to punish very minor or debatable actions.

Jonathan

On Tue, Apr 19, 2011 at 9:42 AM, Dennis W. Brandt <tbng@comcast.net> wrote:

> Watched the spring scrimmage last night.  As Tom Maycock reported from
> being there freezing his tail off, I don't know how anyone could come to any
> conclusions.  Twenty-four players didn't even suit up.  Fitz knows what he
> saw, and that's all that counts.  That last "fun" competition requiring ten
> spins around a baseball bat was hysterical to watch.  Guys afterward tried
> to run ten yards down the field to hand a bat to the next player while
> dizzily careening in the wrong direction.
>
> As to the new rule that they mentioned last night, it seems that starting
> this season, taunting following a score will result in a fifteen-yard
> penalty from the spot of the previous play, thus wiping out the TD.  I
> presume it would apply to non-scoring plays, too, but taunting usually
> occurs after a TD.  I didn't hear if it was a loss-of-down penalty.
>
> I get what they NCAA is trying to do, but I don't like it.  Taunting is a
> dead-ball foul.  The play is over.  I presume that the refs would not wipe
> out a score if there is a personal foul following the TD.  So, it's less of
> a crime to cold-cock a guy than it is to taunt him?  What happens if the TD
> is a game-winner and everyone erupts?  Behavior permitted on a game-ending
> play even now is not permitted during the game.  What is taunting and what
> is celebration?  I can't wait for the uprising the first time that a ref
> wipes out a game-winning score.
>
> How about they keep the penalty the way it always was and require the
> offending player to sit for the next 15 game minutes, including the next
> game if necessary?  If hockey can track penalty minutes, so can football.
>  Every subsequent taunting foul that season gets that player tossed from the
> game right then and there, and the third one gets him benched for x number
> of games transferable to the following season.
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From hakirsch at aol.com  Tue Apr 19 10:28:52 2011
From: hakirsch at aol.com (hakirsch@aol.com)
Date: Tue Apr 19 10:28:59 2011
Subject: [NU Sports] New college football rule
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I agree that a score should not be wiped out for taunting but I disagree with Dennis on a temporary suspension like hockey. You either kick the guy out of the game or you don't. But if they think a 15 yard penalty is not doing the trick then either give a 25 yard penalty or make it an automatic game expulsion combined with a 15 yard penalty. Do not allow ref discretion for splitting the baby by having only a 15 yard penalty for minor taunting 

Harry
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Subject: [NU Sports] New college football rule

Watched the spring scrimmage last night.  As Tom Maycock reported from being there freezing his tail off, I don't know how anyone could come to any conclusions.  Twenty-four players didn't even suit up.  Fitz knows what he saw, and that's all that counts.  That last "fun" competition requiring ten spins around a baseball bat was hysterical to watch.  Guys afterward tried to run ten yards down the field to hand a bat to the next player while dizzily careening in the wrong direction.

As to the new rule that they mentioned last night, it seems that starting this season, taunting following a score will result in a fifteen-yard penalty from the spot of the previous play, thus wiping out the TD.  I presume it would apply to non-scoring plays, too, but taunting usually occurs after a TD.  I didn't hear if it was a loss-of-down penalty.

I get what they NCAA is trying to do, but I don't like it.  Taunting is a dead-ball foul.  The play is over.  I presume that the refs would not wipe out a score if there is a personal foul following the TD.  So, it's less of a crime to cold-cock a guy than it is to taunt him?  What happens if the TD is a game-winner and everyone erupts?  Behavior permitted on a game-ending play even now is not permitted during the game.  What is taunting and what is celebration?  I can't wait for the uprising the first time that a ref wipes out a game-winning score.

How about they keep the penalty the way it always was and require the offending player to sit for the next 15 game minutes, including the next game if necessary?  If hockey can track penalty minutes, so can football.  Every subsequent taunting foul that season gets that player tossed from the game right then and there, and the third one gets him benched for x number of games transferable to the following season.
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From Jeff.Beamsley at covisint.com  Tue Apr 19 10:55:10 2011
From: Jeff.Beamsley at covisint.com (Beamsley, Jeff)
Date: Tue Apr 19 10:55:38 2011
Subject: [NU Sports] NU at Wrigley
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Denis,

I challenge your simplistic assertion that the ONLY thing that guarantees full houses at football games are football teams contending for BT and national championships.

Today's sports audiences are looking for an "experience" for their dollar.  Certainly supporting a winning program can be part of that experience, but there are plenty of examples where the experience in and of itself is sufficient to justify the cost even when the team isn't competitive.

That's where Wrigley Field comes in.  People flock there, not because the Cubs are perennial champs, but because it has become a "bucket list" destination for serious sports fans.  Virtually anything sports related as long as it can be promoted as unique experience will sell out Wrigley Field.  

As far as college football is concerned, there is no strong correlation in the NCAA attendance data between championships and attendance.  The top three programs for attendance last year were Michigan (111,825), OSU (105,278), and PSU (104,234).  Michigan hasn't won a BT championship for six years.  Northwestern has more BT championships in the last twenty years (3) than PSU (2). 

Minny in another good example to disprove the "winning is the only variable affecting attendance" theorem.  They had another disappointing year winning only one home game but sold 99% of their tickets because they opened a new stadium.   

Outside the BT, Texas had their first losing season in 13 years but still sold out every game.  Georgia and Florida also had down years and sold out.  Notre Dame's last national championship was in 1988 but they continue to sell out every home game. The kids graduating from Notre Dame this spring have lived their whole lives without experiencing a Notre Dame championship, but will still buy season tickets and return like salmon next fall to support their team.

There are plenty of examples on the flip side too.  Jim Harbaugh put Stanford back on the national map, averaged only 40K per game (80% of capacity), and didn't crack the top 30 in year-to-year attendance growth.  Miami won the MAC championship last year, only averaged 15K a game (60% of capacity), and that was a good year (19th on the year-to-year growth list).

Northwestern was second only to Louisville in the year-to-year growth in attendance in 2010.  We finished with a losing conference record (3-5) tied for 7th with Michigan.  Michigan was 25th on the growth list, not because they put a championship product only the field, but because they expanded their capacity by 3,000 seats.  Even in another down year which resulted in Rich Rod's termination, demand for the "Big House" football experience still exceeded supply.  

I think that Phillips and Fitz both know what they are doing.  Attendance is growing not only because we are putting a good product on the field, but also because people in Chicago are starting to identify with NU football.  Pat Fitzgerald is becoming the face of college football in Chicago.  The "Chicago's Big Ten Team" marketing campaign is spot on and having the desired result.

We all want a winning team, but I think we should set our sights higher.  Chicago-area fans who want to experience all the best that college football has to offer should be buying OUR home tickets.  It's that "Saturday" tradition that continues to fill up the stands at ND and Michigan during the down years.  It's feeling the same connection to Fitz that causes folks in PA to wear white and support Joe Pa's teams.  

Phillips and Fitz are working to create the same experience and connection in Evanston.  It's that feeling, more than anything else, that will consistently fill our house with loyal fans.

Jeff 



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From: nwu-sports-bounces@tssi.com [mailto:nwu-sports-bounces@tssi.com] On Behalf Of Dennis W. Brandt
Sent: Monday, April 18, 2011 9:54 PM
To: nwu-sports@romaine.tssi.com
Subject: Re: [NU Sports] NU at Wrigley

> Then how do you explain the fact that we sold out Wrigley with tickets 
> that averaged over $100 each for a game that wouldn't have drawn  30,000 
> fans at Ryan Field at an average ticket price under $50?  Or  the 
> publicity the game attracted, etc.?
>
> I think it's open for debate whether we need an annual game at Wrigley 
> (and it certainly wouldn't start anytime soon as the stadium needs to  be 
> renovated first), but it's quite a stretch to contend that last  year's 
> game was a bad idea given how successful it was at generating  revenue and 
> publicity.  Forget about whether last year's game will  increase ticket 
> sales in the future.  Just for that day alone, NU made  a nice take versus 
> what it would have made at Ryan Field.
>
One thing and one thing only will guarantee full houses:  vying for the Big 
Ten title year after year and even having a reasonable shot at the national 
championship.  A clich? to anyone who paid $100 to watch football at 
Wrigley:  A fool and his money soon parted. 

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From tbng at comcast.net  Tue Apr 19 13:52:54 2011
From: tbng at comcast.net (Dennis W. Brandt)
Date: Tue Apr 19 13:53:01 2011
Subject: [NU Sports] NU at Wrigley
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<Denis,

That's "Dennis."

<I challenge your simplistic assertion that the ONLY thing that guarantees 
full houses at football games are football teams contending for BT and 
national championships.

OSU doesn't fill The Shoe every game because it wins the title one year, 
then falls to sub .500 the next two seasons, then back up for one or two 
seasons, and then goes 4 - 8.  And losing at Michigan is still perceived as 
an aberration much as I would like to see it become a seasonal expectation. 
It will take a few more lean years for defeatism to congeal permanently in 
Ann Arbor.  As Capt. Picard would say, "Make it so."

<That's where Wrigley Field comes in.  People flock there, not because the 
Cubs are perennial champs, but because it has become a "bucket list" 
destination for serious sports fans.  Virtually anything sports related as 
long as it can be promoted as unique experience will sell out Wrigley Field.

The Loveable Loser Cubbies are an atypical and inexplicable phenomenon.  You 
can find more realistic baseball examples.  Folks used to flock to Oriole 
Park in Camden Yard and Jacobs Field in Cleveland when the stadiums were new 
and O's and Indians were winning games.  Now, there are lots of empty seats. 
Tickets were easy to obtain at Veterans' Stadium in Philadelphia when the 
Phillies wallowed in the image of the losingest franchise in professional 
sports history.  Citizens' Bank Park enjoyed the initial new stadium boost, 
but the attendance boomed in 2007 when the Phillies put themselves among the 
elite of baseball.  Now they sell 3.5 million tickets before the first pitch 
of the season gets thrown.  Believe me, if they fall into a couple of bad 
seasons and appear to be headed downward, getting a ticket for a Phillies 
game will become easy again.  And you might want to check attendance figures 
for the once proud but now annually awful Pittsburgh Pirates.

<As far as college football is concerned, there is no strong correlation in 
the NCAA attendance data between championships and attendance.  The top 
three programs for attendance last year were Michigan (111,825), OSU 
(105,278), and PSU (104,234).  Michigan hasn't won a BT championship for six 
years.  Northwestern has more BT championships in the last twenty years (3) 
than PSU (2) . . .  Outside the BT, Texas had their first losing season in 
13 years but still sold out every game.  Georgia and Florida also had down 
years and sold out.  Notre Dame's last national championship was in 1988 but 
they continue to sell out every home game.

You're kidding with those statements.  Right?  All the programs you 
mentioned are among the most storied in the nation, ones with long 
traditions of winning, where fans view losing as unforgivable.  OSU's last 
"down" year involved four losses (one of them to us), and had they done that 
two seasons in a row, fans would have been calling for the coach's scalp. 
Penn State exemplifies what happens to a storied program when it suffers 
through several seasons struggling to reach .500.  Fans most definitely 
wanted JoePa's scalp back then, and attendance drooped.  Had that mediocrity 
continued, they would yet be struggling to put 50,000 butts on the bleachers 
even with an entire state and a gazillion alums behind them.

<Minny in another good example to disprove the "winning is the only variable 
affecting attendance" theorem.  They had another disappointing year winning 
only one home game but sold 99% of their tickets because they opened a new 
stadium.

No doubt attendance is up in part because students can get to the game more 
easily.  But let's see how the attendance holds up once the stadium's 
newness has worn off and the Gophers still can't win football games.

<There are plenty of examples on the flip side too.  Jim Harbaugh put 
Stanford back on the national map, averaged only 40K per game (80% of 
capacity), and didn't crack the top 30 in year-to-year attendance growth. 
Miami won the MAC championship last year, only averaged 15K a game (60% of 
capacity), and that was a good year (19th on the year-to-year growth list).

Thank you for illustrating my point.  Northwestern and Stanford fans have 
much in common in that neither group has any confidence that their football 
teams will go beyond occasional winning seasons and reach and maintain a 
tradition of winning.  Why?  Because neither of them ever has.  Yes, since 
'95 NU has won a Big Ten title and shared two others, but we've also been at 
or near the bottom of the conference, too.  Did Ohio State fans ever start a 
season thinking that going undefeated wasn't at least a possibility?  If NU 
and Stanford establish traditions where 11 to 13-win seasons are annual 
possibilities and anything less is at least something of a disappointment, 
both universities will finally enjoy a waiting list for season tickets.

<We all want a winning team, but I think we should set our sights higher.

Playing in Wrigley Field is a higher aspiration than winning?

<I think that Phillips and Fitz both know what they are doing.

Agreed, but what does that have to do with playing in a stadium so ill 
equipped for football that you have to alter the game's fundamental rules to 
play there?  We got publicity from playing in Wrigley all right - negative. 
You don't succeed with gimmicks.  Just win, baby.  Build a tradition and 
they will come.

From MHRJGScott at aol.com  Tue Apr 19 13:52:55 2011
From: MHRJGScott at aol.com (MHRJGScott@aol.com)
Date: Tue Apr 19 13:53:04 2011
Subject: [NU Sports] Cats in NFL draft
Message-ID: <56cdf.155d436.3adf3407@aol.com>

Do we have anybody going on the first day, maybe Davie, Stewart or Bryant?  
Predictions? Demos?
From Jeff.Beamsley at covisint.com  Tue Apr 19 14:56:06 2011
From: Jeff.Beamsley at covisint.com (Beamsley, Jeff)
Date: Tue Apr 19 14:56:29 2011
Subject: [NU Sports] NU at Wrigley
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Dennis (with two n's),

Not sure you fully grasp the concept of correlation.  

You said, "One thing and one thing only will guarantee full houses:  vying for the Big Ten title year after year and even having a reasonable shot at the national championship."

For that to be true, attendance data should show that every school vying for a BT title year after year would sell out and every school failing to consistently contend for a BT title would not.  

What the data DOES show and you confirmed in your response is that there are MANY reasons why some teams have good attendance and some teams have poor attendance.  Whether those things are a history of past success, fan skepticism, or even things that are just "atypical" or "inexplicable" doesn't really matter in terms of correlation.  What DOES matter is that, at least according to the data, winning is neither the one thing or the only thing.

I suspect you won't let the data get in the way of a good argument, but then that's why it's so much fun to have you on this list.

Jeff



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From: nwu-sports-bounces@tssi.com [mailto:nwu-sports-bounces@tssi.com] On Behalf Of Dennis W. Brandt
Sent: Tuesday, April 19, 2011 2:53 PM
To: nwu-sports@tssi.com
Subject: Re: [NU Sports] NU at Wrigley

<Denis,

That's "Dennis."

<I challenge your simplistic assertion that the ONLY thing that guarantees 
full houses at football games are football teams contending for BT and 
national championships.

OSU doesn't fill The Shoe every game because it wins the title one year, 
then falls to sub .500 the next two seasons, then back up for one or two 
seasons, and then goes 4 - 8.  And losing at Michigan is still perceived as 
an aberration much as I would like to see it become a seasonal expectation. 
It will take a few more lean years for defeatism to congeal permanently in 
Ann Arbor.  As Capt. Picard would say, "Make it so."

<That's where Wrigley Field comes in.  People flock there, not because the 
Cubs are perennial champs, but because it has become a "bucket list" 
destination for serious sports fans.  Virtually anything sports related as 
long as it can be promoted as unique experience will sell out Wrigley Field.

The Loveable Loser Cubbies are an atypical and inexplicable phenomenon.  You 
can find more realistic baseball examples.  Folks used to flock to Oriole 
Park in Camden Yard and Jacobs Field in Cleveland when the stadiums were new 
and O's and Indians were winning games.  Now, there are lots of empty seats. 
Tickets were easy to obtain at Veterans' Stadium in Philadelphia when the 
Phillies wallowed in the image of the losingest franchise in professional 
sports history.  Citizens' Bank Park enjoyed the initial new stadium boost, 
but the attendance boomed in 2007 when the Phillies put themselves among the 
elite of baseball.  Now they sell 3.5 million tickets before the first pitch 
of the season gets thrown.  Believe me, if they fall into a couple of bad 
seasons and appear to be headed downward, getting a ticket for a Phillies 
game will become easy again.  And you might want to check attendance figures 
for the once proud but now annually awful Pittsburgh Pirates.

<As far as college football is concerned, there is no strong correlation in 
the NCAA attendance data between championships and attendance.  The top 
three programs for attendance last year were Michigan (111,825), OSU 
(105,278), and PSU (104,234).  Michigan hasn't won a BT championship for six 
years.  Northwestern has more BT championships in the last twenty years (3) 
than PSU (2) . . .  Outside the BT, Texas had their first losing season in 
13 years but still sold out every game.  Georgia and Florida also had down 
years and sold out.  Notre Dame's last national championship was in 1988 but 
they continue to sell out every home game.

You're kidding with those statements.  Right?  All the programs you 
mentioned are among the most storied in the nation, ones with long 
traditions of winning, where fans view losing as unforgivable.  OSU's last 
"down" year involved four losses (one of them to us), and had they done that 
two seasons in a row, fans would have been calling for the coach's scalp. 
Penn State exemplifies what happens to a storied program when it suffers 
through several seasons struggling to reach .500.  Fans most definitely 
wanted JoePa's scalp back then, and attendance drooped.  Had that mediocrity 
continued, they would yet be struggling to put 50,000 butts on the bleachers 
even with an entire state and a gazillion alums behind them.

<Minny in another good example to disprove the "winning is the only variable 
affecting attendance" theorem.  They had another disappointing year winning 
only one home game but sold 99% of their tickets because they opened a new 
stadium.

No doubt attendance is up in part because students can get to the game more 
easily.  But let's see how the attendance holds up once the stadium's 
newness has worn off and the Gophers still can't win football games.

<There are plenty of examples on the flip side too.  Jim Harbaugh put 
Stanford back on the national map, averaged only 40K per game (80% of 
capacity), and didn't crack the top 30 in year-to-year attendance growth. 
Miami won the MAC championship last year, only averaged 15K a game (60% of 
capacity), and that was a good year (19th on the year-to-year growth list).

Thank you for illustrating my point.  Northwestern and Stanford fans have 
much in common in that neither group has any confidence that their football 
teams will go beyond occasional winning seasons and reach and maintain a 
tradition of winning.  Why?  Because neither of them ever has.  Yes, since 
'95 NU has won a Big Ten title and shared two others, but we've also been at 
or near the bottom of the conference, too.  Did Ohio State fans ever start a 
season thinking that going undefeated wasn't at least a possibility?  If NU 
and Stanford establish traditions where 11 to 13-win seasons are annual 
possibilities and anything less is at least something of a disappointment, 
both universities will finally enjoy a waiting list for season tickets.

<We all want a winning team, but I think we should set our sights higher.

Playing in Wrigley Field is a higher aspiration than winning?

<I think that Phillips and Fitz both know what they are doing.

Agreed, but what does that have to do with playing in a stadium so ill 
equipped for football that you have to alter the game's fundamental rules to 
play there?  We got publicity from playing in Wrigley all right - negative. 
You don't succeed with gimmicks.  Just win, baby.  Build a tradition and 
they will come.

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From tkmaycock at yahoo.com  Tue Apr 19 15:05:42 2011
From: tkmaycock at yahoo.com (Tom Maycock)
Date: Tue Apr 19 15:05:46 2011
Subject: [NU Sports] NU at Wrigley
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Forgive me if it's been mentioned already, but:

I think it's pretty clear that the Wrigley move had two basic goals: increase 
season ticket sales and attendance in 2010, and help build that audience in 2011 
and beyond. 

I don't think there is any doubt that it was a HUGE success in terms of 2010 
results. As for how it pans out in 2011, we'll know soon enough. 

Tom

From rstetson at capps-assoc.com  Tue Apr 19 15:13:23 2011
From: rstetson at capps-assoc.com (Roy S. Lamberton)
Date: Tue Apr 19 15:13:16 2011
Subject: [NU Sports] NU at Wrigley
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1. Oriole Park was packed with businesses who bought huge blocks of seats. Now that the tax situation in MD is more anti-biz, the number of seats owned by businesses is way down. The Nationals in DC and a losing record doesn't help either. (or the presence of the team on TV every night in HD)

2. Oklahoma had a waiting list to get on the waiting list. You had to contribute to the athletic dept to get on the first list then hope. The only seat in the stadium harder to get was a space in the broadcast booth.

3. I don't like the layout in Wrigley, and moving everything 10 feet to the west isn't going to make it any more attractive, altho watching on TV showed that Chicago fans love to come out to a football game in a bad layout in cruddy weather. 

I'd prefer to play at Soldier Field, but that invites shots of Univ of Chicago (and all the negative things about big time football they engender) or long lens shots from a tall building, of N**** D***.

I know having the game a Wrigley allows more of Chicago to come to the game since the cemetery is seen as a border to a foreign country (and nobody rides the train beyond Howard) but the walk to Ryan is no longer than the walk to Wrigley and it?s the same train, Doh...

rsl

++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
Roy S. Lamberton - Senior Associate & Unix Guru.
Computer Applications & Support Associates
-------------------- Also ----------------------
"Commissioner" Delaware American Legion Baseball
Director Media Relations - Little League 
  Senior League Softball World Series
CTR2 USN (67-70) - CTRCS USNR (Ret) (64-67/70-95)
Northwestern University - Speech 1974 - 
Chi Phi: Pi 1974, KD 1968
Publisher Emeritus: Purple Reign (Fox Sports)
================================================
Opinions expressed above are mine alone and are not
those of any organizations of which I am a member.
------------------------------------------------
?A gargantuan bureaucratized parochialism leavened by litigiousness 
and political correctness is a scale of decline no developed nation 
has yet attempted.? -- Mark Steyn
==========  Go Cats -  Beat 'em All  ===========

1 - Folks used to flock to Oriole 
Park in Camden Yard and Jacobs Field in Cleveland when the stadiums were new 
and O's and Indians were winning games.  Now, there are lots of empty seats. 

3 - Agreed, but what does that have to do with playing in a stadium so ill 
equipped for football that you have to alter the game's fundamental rules to 
play there?  We got publicity from playing in Wrigley all right - negative. 
You don't succeed with gimmicks.  Just win, baby.  Build a tradition and 
they will come.

_______________________________________________
nwu-sports site list
nwu-sports@tssi.com
http://romaine.tssi.com/mailman/listinfo/nwu-sports


From MHRJGScott at aol.com  Tue Apr 19 17:08:52 2011
From: MHRJGScott at aol.com (MHRJGScott@aol.com)
Date: Tue Apr 19 17:09:01 2011
Subject: [NU Sports] BT network pre season show
Message-ID: <98ba0.45b67b59.3adf61f4@aol.com>

CATS ARE ON 4-21 AT 1 am et, maybe it was on before but I did not see  when
From tbng at comcast.net  Tue Apr 19 18:57:27 2011
From: tbng at comcast.net (Dennis W. Brandt)
Date: Tue Apr 19 18:57:32 2011
Subject: [NU Sports] NU at Wrigley
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<For that to be true, attendance data should show that every school vying 
for a BT title year after year would sell out and every school failing to 
consistently contend for a BT title would not.

Jeff (with two f's)

Did you miss the part where I related how Penn State's attendance fell when 
they weren't in contention?    You mean that Illinois, Northwestern, 
Indiana, and Minnesota have always filled their stands?  Doesn't perennial 
contender OSU always fill their stadium?  Or Michigan, whose recent drop-off 
is an aberration?

<What the data DOES show and you confirmed in your response is that there 
are MANY reasons why some teams have good attendance and some teams have 
poor attendance.  Whether those things are a history of past success, fan 
skepticism, or even things that are just "atypical" or "inexplicable" 
doesn't really matter in terms of correlation.  What DOES matter is that, at 
least according to the data, winning is neither the one thing or the only 
thing.

Your reasoning flies into the wild blue yonder.  Seems to me that "history 
of past success" means that fans of teams who have WON in the past tend to 
believe there is a strong chance of WINNING in the future.  Those who 
express "skepticism" are those who follow teams that have not WON.


From tbng at comcast.net  Tue Apr 19 19:01:19 2011
From: tbng at comcast.net (Dennis W. Brandt)
Date: Tue Apr 19 19:01:23 2011
Subject: [NU Sports] NU at Wrigley
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< Oriole Park was packed with businesses who bought huge blocks of seats. 
Now that the tax situation in MD is more anti-biz, the number of seats owned 
by businesses is way down. The Nationals in DC and a losing record doesn't 
help either. (or the presence of the team on TV every night in HD)

Attendance at Oriole Park had dipped long before the Nationals came to town. 
By the way, every time the Phillies play in Washington, it is literally a 
Phillies home game minus about 30,000 because Washington is not supporting 
the Nationals and won't until they start to win.

< Oklahoma had a waiting list to get on the waiting list. You had to 
contribute to the athletic dept to get on the first list then hope. The only 
seat in the stadium harder to get was a space in the broadcast booth.

And except for a brief period in the late 90s, Oklahoma has always been a 
perenniel winner and candidate for the national championship.


From rstetson at capps-assoc.com  Tue Apr 19 21:53:08 2011
From: rstetson at capps-assoc.com (Roy S. Lamberton)
Date: Tue Apr 19 21:53:26 2011
Subject: [NU Sports] NU at Wrigley
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Just the way every Yankee and Red Sox game in Baltimore is a home team for them.

Many thing conspired to cause the drop in Camden Yards attendance, changes in the tax laws helped cut down the number of business meetings that were held at the yards - when the park was new you could take people to the park and you didn't run afoul of the various rules against "entertaining" government buyers.

Had the Birds maintained a winning tradition (and maybe Cal Ripkin for another few years) the falloff of attendance might not have been so bad. Mr. Angelos' Sports Network, on every Comcast cable system in HD didn't help either.

Last night, on a beautiful evening with the Twins in town, the birds drew a whopping 13,000 people, about a quarter of those who watched on TV.

rsl

++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
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Computer Applications & Support Associates
-------------------- Also ----------------------
"Commissioner" Delaware American Legion Baseball
Director Media Relations - Little League 
  Senior League Softball World Series
CTR2 USN (67-70) - CTRCS USNR (Ret) (64-67/70-95)
Northwestern University - Speech 1974 - 
Chi Phi: Pi 1974, KD 1968
Publisher Emeritus: Purple Reign (Fox Sports)
================================================
Opinions expressed above are mine alone and are not
those of any organizations of which I am a member.
------------------------------------------------
?A gargantuan bureaucratized parochialism leavened by litigiousness 
and political correctness is a scale of decline no developed nation 
has yet attempted.? -- Mark Steyn
==========  Go Cats -  Beat 'em All  ===========

By the way, every time the Phillies play in Washington, it is literally a 
Phillies home game minus about 30,000 because Washington is not supporting 
the Nationals and won't until they start to win.


From tbng at comcast.net  Tue Apr 19 22:18:01 2011
From: tbng at comcast.net (Dennis W. Brandt)
Date: Tue Apr 19 22:18:20 2011
Subject: [NU Sports] NU at Wrigley
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<Just the way every Yankee and Red Sox game in Baltimore is a home team for 
them.

<Many thing conspired to cause the drop in Camden Yards attendance, changes 
in the tax laws helped cut down the number of business meetings that were 
held at the yards - when the park was new you could take people to the park 
and you didn't run afoul of the various rules against "entertaining" 
government buyers.

<Had the Birds maintained a winning tradition (and maybe Cal Ripkin for 
another few years) the falloff of attendance might not have been so bad. Mr. 
Angelos' Sports Network, on every Comcast cable system in HD didn't help 
either.

<Last night, on a beautiful evening with the Twins in town, the birds drew a 
whopping 13,000 people, about a quarter of those who watched on TV.

And if the Orioles found the latest round of Brooks, Frank, and Boog and 
that marvelous starting pitching they used to have, the seats will fill up 
again.  People will not pay to watch losing teams. 

From Jeff.Beamsley at covisint.com  Wed Apr 20 12:55:23 2011
From: Jeff.Beamsley at covisint.com (Beamsley, Jeff)
Date: Wed Apr 20 12:55:35 2011
Subject: [NU Sports] Definitive College Football attendance study
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After taking a run at Dennis' claim that winning conference
championships was the one and only thing that affects college football
attendance, I thought I would do a little more research to see if anyone
else had actually done a rigorous analysis of the data.
Someone at Harvard did and earlier this year posted a very interesting
article.
http://harvardsportsanalysis.wordpress.com/2011/01/17/what-factors-contr
ibute-to-attendance-in-college-football/
As it turns out, you don't have to win championships, although those
that do so do get rewarded.  Having just a winning percentage over a
number of years has the highest correlation to attendance.  Attendance
is a trailing indicator lagging performance by about a year for both
positive and negative changes.  
Here are the other factors that significantly correlate to attendance
over the three year period of this study.  Those of you on this list who
have thrown out one or more of these factors in our past discussions
about attendance can now feel free to pat yourselves on the back.
BCS conference participation
BCS schools average 61K/game. Non-BCS average 24K/game
Undergraduate population
Schools >40K undergrads average 91% capacity (69K/game).  
Schools between 30K-40K undergrads average 84% capacity (54K/game).  
Schools between 10K-20K undergrads average 73.2% capacity.  
Schools <10K undergrads average 77% capacity.
Proximity to large cities (access to pro sports)
100K-500K population average 83.7% capacity
500K-1M population average 83% capacity
1M-4M population average 75% capacity
4M+ population average 70% capacity
Private versus Public
Private averages 76.5% capacity
Public averages 80.5% capacity
On this last point they attribute the differences to four factors.
1. Public schools are less geographically diverse and so create stronger
generational state and school loyalty.
2. Private schools are smaller (on average half the size of public
schools).  So there are fewer undergrads and alumni to draw from.
3. The average private school is located in a 3M+ city with 2+ pro
teams.  The average public school is located in a 1M+ city with 1 pro
team.
So what does this mean for NU?
Three years of winning football has resulted in growing attendance as
predicted (77% of capacity in 2010).  We are part of the BCS, but we are
averaging 24K/game less than the average BCS school.  We are right on
target for a school with an undergrad population under 10K.  We are a
little better than predicted for a private school near a 1M-4M city.  
Bottom line is that according to this study, NU has many more challenges
as far as football attendance than the rest of our BT brothers.  The bad
news is that key parts of who we are as a school will likely prevent us
from ever approaching the 61K/game BCS average.   The good news is that
savvy marketing and consistent on-field performance already have us
beating the average attendance of schools facing similar challenges.

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From pcw at warnerpatents.com  Wed Apr 20 12:59:09 2011
From: pcw at warnerpatents.com (Peter C. Warner)
Date: Wed Apr 20 13:00:27 2011
Subject: [NU Sports] First Shurna, Now Henderson
Message-ID: <000501cbff84$a63072b0$f2915810$@warnerpatents.com>

Shurna declared for the NBA draft yesterday (although he may still stay);
Mitch Henderson (Carmody's assistant coach since 2000) took the head
coaching job at Princeton today.  This can't help NU in its quest for John
Cannon, the 6'11" center from North Carolina who has narrowed his college
list to NU, Georgia and Old Dominion.

From Jeff.Beamsley at covisint.com  Wed Apr 20 13:01:58 2011
From: Jeff.Beamsley at covisint.com (Beamsley, Jeff)
Date: Wed Apr 20 13:02:10 2011
Subject: [NU Sports] Definitive College Football attendance study
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Here's another version that hopefully will be easier to read.

After taking a run at Dennis' claim that winning conference
championships was the one and only thing that affects college football
attendance, I thought I would do a little more research to see if anyone
else had actually done a rigorous analysis of the data.


Someone at Harvard did and earlier this year posted a very interesting
article.

http://harvardsportsanalysis.wordpress.com/2011/01/17/what-factors-contribute-to-attendance-in-college-football/

As it turns out, you don't have to win championships, although those
that do so do get rewarded.  Having just a winning percentage over a
number of years has the highest correlation to attendance.  Attendance
is a trailing indicator lagging performance by about a year for both
positive and negative changes.  


Here are the other factors that significantly correlate to attendance
over the three year period of this study.  Those of you on this list who
have thrown out one or more of these factors in our past discussions
about attendance can now feel free to pat yourselves on the back.


BCS conference participation
BCS schools average 61K/game. Non-BCS average 24K/game


Undergraduate population
Schools >40K undergrads average 91% capacity (69K/game).  
Schools between 30K-40K undergrads average 84% capacity (54K/game).  
Schools between 10K-20K undergrads average 73.2% capacity.  
Schools <10K undergrads average 77% capacity.


Proximity to large cities (access to pro sports)
100K-500K population average 83.7% capacity
500K-1M population average 83% capacity
1M-4M population average 75% capacity
4M+ population average 70% capacity


Private versus Public
Private averages 76.5% capacity
Public averages 80.5% capacity


On this last point they attribute the differences to four factors.


1. Public schools are less geographically diverse and so create stronger
generational state and school loyalty.
2. Private schools are smaller (on average half the size of public
schools).  So there are fewer undergrads and alumni to draw from.
3. The average private school is located in a 3M+ city with 2+ pro
teams.  The average public school is located in a 1M+ city with 1 pro
team.


So what does this mean for NU?
Three years of winning football has resulted in growing attendance as
predicted (77% of capacity in 2010).  We are part of the BCS, but we are
averaging 24K/game less than the average BCS school.  We are right on
target for a school with an undergrad population under 10K.  We are a
little better than predicted for a private school near a 1M-4M city.  


Bottom line is that according to this study, NU has many more challenges
as far as football attendance than the rest of our BT brothers.  The bad
news is that key parts of who we are as a school will likely prevent us
from ever approaching the 61K/game BCS average.   The good news is that
savvy marketing and consistent on-field performance already have us
beating the average attendance of schools facing similar challenges.



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From thehaze at earthlink.net  Wed Apr 20 18:09:14 2011
From: thehaze at earthlink.net (Jim Bendat)
Date: Wed Apr 20 18:09:38 2011
Subject: [NU Sports] NU, Stanford set up 4-game FB series
Message-ID: <28570601.1303340955391.JavaMail.root@wamui-hunyo.atl.sa.earthlink.net>

Just read that we'll be hosting Stanford in 2019 and 2021, and we'll travel to Stanford in 2020 and 2022. I'm looking forward to those west coast games, but I don't even want to think about how old I'll be then! - Jim B.

From sjtruog at yahoo.com  Wed Apr 20 18:36:47 2011
From: sjtruog at yahoo.com (Stephen Truog)
Date: Wed Apr 20 18:38:22 2011
Subject: [NU Sports] NU, Stanford set up 4-game FB series
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Give our AD (and coach - for raising our profile) credit! We have some GOOD NC games the next few years! Heck, BC, the Treez, the Evil Empire ... We're back in the mid-'90s ... hope the end result is the same! :)

Stanford is a natural rival for us and Cal & Stanford are great series for NU.

As for ND, Mike is right ... I think the Big 10 should play hardball and freeze them out if we really want to make them join ... And yes, their profile has dropped recently ... but this is still ND *and* Phillips was able to get a 1-for-1 deal with the return game IN Evanston. That, as our VP would say, is one big f'ing deal! :)

Go Cats!!!
- SjT

STEPHEN J. TRUOG
sjtruog@yahoo.com


On Apr 20, 2011, at 4:09 PM, Jim Bendat <thehaze@earthlink.net> wrote:

> Just read that we'll be hosting Stanford in 2019 and 2021, and we'll travel to Stanford in 2020 and 2022. I'm looking forward to those west coast games, but I don't even want to think about how old I'll be then! - Jim B.
> 
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From scottzel at gmail.com  Wed Apr 20 19:46:06 2011
From: scottzel at gmail.com (Scott Zeller, M.D.)
Date: Wed Apr 20 19:46:12 2011
Subject: [NU Sports] NU, Stanford set up 4-game FB series
In-Reply-To: <28570601.1303340955391.JavaMail.root@wamui-hunyo.atl.sa.earthlink.net>
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You won't be that old in 2022. And think of the bright side -- we can all go
to the games in our flying jet cars!

On Wed, Apr 20, 2011 at 4:09 PM, Jim Bendat <thehaze@earthlink.net> wrote:

> Just read that we'll be hosting Stanford in 2019 and 2021, and we'll travel
> to Stanford in 2020 and 2022. I'm looking forward to those west coast games,
> but I don't even want to think about how old I'll be then! - Jim B.
>
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From tbng at comcast.net  Wed Apr 20 19:58:16 2011
From: tbng at comcast.net (Dennis W. Brandt)
Date: Wed Apr 20 19:58:24 2011
Subject: [NU Sports] Misquoting and other pasttimes
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<After taking a run at Dennis' claim that winning conference championships was the one and only thing [emphasis added] that affects college football attendance.

If you're going to try to refute an argument, try attacking the argument that was actually made.  Please cite the post in which I said "winning conference championships was the one and only thing that affects college football attendance."

Save your time.  I never said it.

What I did say was (emphases added):

"One thing and one thing only will guarantee full houses [at NU]:  VYING for the Big en title year after year."  Monday, April 18, 2011 9:53 PM

"All the programs you mentioned are among the most storied in the nation, ones with long traditions of winning" [period - "championships" was not there]  Tuesday, April 19, 2011 2:52 PM

"Penn State's attendance fell when they weren't IN CONTENTION" and "Doesn't PERENNIAL CONTENDER OSU always fill their stadium?   Tuesday, April 19, 2011 7:57 PM

Winning championships as the "only" factor in attendance is your terminology, not mine.  I do insist that a consistent winning tradition will always be the overriding factor in obtaining high attendance figures and that number two factor doesn't appear in the rear view mirror.  Otherwise, Baylor, Vanderbilt, Duke, Iowa State, and Indiana annually would fill their stadiums as surely as Texas, Florida, Florida State, Oklahoma, and Ohio State.

I'm done with this discussion.  As far as I'm concerned, I'm just repeating the obvious.

From rstetson at capps-assoc.com  Wed Apr 20 22:16:52 2011
From: rstetson at capps-assoc.com (Roy S. Lamberton)
Date: Wed Apr 20 22:16:43 2011
Subject: [NU Sports] First Shurna, Now Henderson
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References: <000501cbff84$a63072b0$f2915810$@warnerpatents.com>
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Henderson should have been on a bunch of short lists for a while. Glad to see he finally
got the call to return to his Alma Mater.

I seem to remember that Henderson's strength was with guards once Lee left, not sure how
he'll hurt us getting a couple of big guys - I'd be more worried about Shurna getting
drafted if he had averaged 25 pts all season. His ankle probably cost him a draft spot
this year.

Anyway, I hope he hasn't been listening to Tony Parker. We all remember how that worked
out for T.J. a few years back.

rsl

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Computer Applications & Support Associates
-------------------- Also ----------------------
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Director Media Relations - Little League 
  Senior League Softball World Series
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and political correctness is a scale of decline no developed nation 
has yet attempted.? -- Mark Steyn
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-----Original Message-----
From: nwu-sports-bounces@tssi.com [mailto:nwu-sports-bounces@tssi.com] On Behalf Of Peter
C. Warner
Sent: Wednesday, April 20, 2011 1:59 PM
To: nwu-sports@tssi.com
Subject: [NU Sports] First Shurna, Now Henderson

Shurna declared for the NBA draft yesterday (although he may still stay);
Mitch Henderson (Carmody's assistant coach since 2000) took the head
coaching job at Princeton today.  This can't help NU in its quest for John
Cannon, the 6'11" center from North Carolina who has narrowed his college
list to NU, Georgia and Old Dominion.

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From tbng at comcast.net  Thu Apr 21 07:20:54 2011
From: tbng at comcast.net (Dennis W. Brandt)
Date: Thu Apr 21 07:21:01 2011
Subject: [NU Sports] On John Shurna
Message-ID: <2FD2F0069EA246E4AB872EDF265C2CCB@dennismachine>

Johnny, me lad, listen to me.  You're not going to succeed in the NBA.  You will not be a high draft pick, and your talent, while very good, isn't up to NBA standards.  Your career will be a short one, assuming you have one at all.  You will more likely end up playing in a European pro league or in the WBA for chump change.  Stay in school and get your degree.  Call Darnell Autry and ask his advice on the subject going pro early.
From j-hodges at alumni.northwestern.edu  Thu Apr 21 07:50:44 2011
From: j-hodges at alumni.northwestern.edu (Jonathan Hodges)
Date: Thu Apr 21 07:51:07 2011
Subject: [NU Sports] On John Shurna
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I believe Shurna declaring for the draft is more about getting contact with
the NBA scouts and figuring out where he is now (most likely not a draft
pick, since there are only 2 rounds) and what he needs to improve before
next year.  You can tell when players are doing this when they specifically
do not hire an agent, since that is what forces one to forfeit their college
eligibility (in fact, one could even actually be drafted and come back to
college as long as they don't sign a contract and actually play).  As this
is the case, I don't blame him at all for testing the waters.

Jonathan

On Thu, Apr 21, 2011 at 7:20 AM, Dennis W. Brandt <tbng@comcast.net> wrote:

> Johnny, me lad, listen to me.  You're not going to succeed in the NBA.  You
> will not be a high draft pick, and your talent, while very good, isn't up to
> NBA standards.  Your career will be a short one, assuming you have one at
> all.  You will more likely end up playing in a European pro league or in the
> WBA for chump change.  Stay in school and get your degree.  Call Darnell
> Autry and ask his advice on the subject going pro early.
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From tkmaycock at yahoo.com  Thu Apr 21 09:15:25 2011
From: tkmaycock at yahoo.com (Tom Maycock)
Date: Thu Apr 21 09:15:31 2011
Subject: [NU Sports] On John Shurna
In-Reply-To: <BANLkTi=hVFCSfcc6UQKzC52Fq75ApQ6Stw@mail.gmail.com>
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	<BANLkTi=hVFCSfcc6UQKzC52Fq75ApQ6Stw@mail.gmail.com>
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> I believe Shurna declaring for the draft is more about getting contact  with
> the NBA scouts and figuring out where he is now (most likely not a  draft
> pick, since there are only 2 rounds) and what he needs to improve  before
> next year.  

I have to believe that's exactly what he's doing here. And (assuming he does 
indeed come back), the exercise will probably benefit NU next year, because 
Shurna will get some expert advice on how to improve his game. 

I think that if John continues to improve over the next year, he will have a 
decent shot at a real NBA career. 

Tom

From Jeff.Beamsley at covisint.com  Thu Apr 21 10:00:18 2011
From: Jeff.Beamsley at covisint.com (Beamsley, Jeff)
Date: Thu Apr 21 10:00:49 2011
Subject: [NU Sports] On John Shurna
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Couldn't agree more.

Shurna strikes me as a smart kid.

His experience playing on the US Select Team last summer convinced him
that he had enough game to play with anyone.  I think that's why he was
able to slide so gracefully into the role of "the man" when Coble didn't
return.

Reading a draft report on him, NBA insiders are impressed with how much
he improved his game from his sophomore to junior years.  His biggest
assets to play the small forward spot are his length, basketball smarts,
and coachability.  If he is going to play in the NBA he has to add
strength and lateral quickness because he will have to guard smaller
players on the perimeter and also be expected to rebound.

It would be very exciting to see a quicker stronger Shurna on the floor
next year, 'cause you can bet that he is going to get pounded again in
conference play.  If he can continue to score at the pace that he did
when he was healthy, improve his perimeter defense, and rebound a lot
better - he'll have a real shot at the NBA in 2012.

Jeff 


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From: nwu-sports-bounces@tssi.com [mailto:nwu-sports-bounces@tssi.com]
On Behalf Of Tom Maycock
Sent: Thursday, April 21, 2011 10:15 AM
To: nwu-sports@tssi.com
Subject: Re: [NU Sports] On John Shurna

> I believe Shurna declaring for the draft is more about getting contact
with
> the NBA scouts and figuring out where he is now (most likely not a
draft
> pick, since there are only 2 rounds) and what he needs to improve
before
> next year.  

I have to believe that's exactly what he's doing here. And (assuming he
does 
indeed come back), the exercise will probably benefit NU next year,
because 
Shurna will get some expert advice on how to improve his game. 

I think that if John continues to improve over the next year, he will
have a 
decent shot at a real NBA career. 

Tom

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From hakirsch at aol.com  Thu Apr 21 10:04:44 2011
From: hakirsch at aol.com (hakirsch@aol.com)
Date: Thu Apr 21 10:04:48 2011
Subject: [NU Sports] On John Shurna
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I hope you guys are spot in. As a fan I don't want to see him go. But I also hope that he realizes a key reason to go to NU is that he has (or could have) a prestigious degree to fall back on if he doesn't make it. And he certainly isn't a slam dunk to make it or make a ton of money attempting to go pro. I suppose he could always finish the degree in the off season if he does play pro but then again he might not.  As Dennis pointed out, Autrey ,as a Heisman finalist (I think) is Exhibit A

Harry
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To: <nwu-sports@tssi.com>
Subject: Re: [NU Sports] On John Shurna

> I believe Shurna declaring for the draft is more about getting contact  with
> the NBA scouts and figuring out where he is now (most likely not a  draft
> pick, since there are only 2 rounds) and what he needs to improve  before
> next year.  

I have to believe that's exactly what he's doing here. And (assuming he does 
indeed come back), the exercise will probably benefit NU next year, because 
Shurna will get some expert advice on how to improve his game. 

I think that if John continues to improve over the next year, he will have a 
decent shot at a real NBA career. 

Tom

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From rstetson at capps-assoc.com  Thu Apr 21 11:20:20 2011
From: rstetson at capps-assoc.com (Roy S. Lamberton)
Date: Thu Apr 21 11:20:14 2011
Subject: [NU Sports] On John Shurna
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Shurna is a junior with another year of eligibility.

It sounds like both Thompson (who wants a workout buddy to get ready for the NBA scouts)
and Carmody encouraged him to look at the pros.

I'm pretty sure that Carmody expects him to be back - it would probably take the Bulls (or
his favorite team) to draft him early for him to go pro (IMHO)

Besides, he was scoring 25+ points per game before he hurt his ankle. Just imagine what he
might do as a Senior without any injuries.... 

rsl

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Director Media Relations - Little League 
  Senior League Softball World Series
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Northwestern University - Speech 1974 - 
Chi Phi: Pi 1974, KD 1968
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Opinions expressed above are mine alone and are not
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and political correctness is a scale of decline no developed nation 
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-----Original Message-----
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hakirsch@aol.com
Sent: Thursday, April 21, 2011 11:05 AM
To: Tom Maycock; nwu-sports-bounces@tssi.com; nwu-sports@tssi.com
Subject: Re: [NU Sports] On John Shurna

I hope you guys are spot in. As a fan I don't want to see him go. But I also hope that he
realizes a key reason to go to NU is that he has (or could have) a prestigious degree to
fall back on if he doesn't make it. And he certainly isn't a slam dunk to make it or make
a ton of money attempting to go pro. I suppose he could always finish the degree in the
off season if he does play pro but then again he might not.  As Dennis pointed out, Autrey
,as a Heisman finalist (I think) is Exhibit A

Harry
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From: Tom Maycock <tkmaycock@yahoo.com>
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Date: Thu, 21 Apr 2011 07:15:25 
To: <nwu-sports@tssi.com>
Subject: Re: [NU Sports] On John Shurna

> I believe Shurna declaring for the draft is more about getting contact  with
> the NBA scouts and figuring out where he is now (most likely not a  draft
> pick, since there are only 2 rounds) and what he needs to improve  before
> next year.  

I have to believe that's exactly what he's doing here. And (assuming he does 
indeed come back), the exercise will probably benefit NU next year, because 
Shurna will get some expert advice on how to improve his game. 

I think that if John continues to improve over the next year, he will have a 
decent shot at a real NBA career. 

Tom

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From nolan at romaine.tssi.com  Thu Apr 21 13:22:59 2011
From: nolan at romaine.tssi.com (Mike Nolan)
Date: Thu Apr 21 13:23:00 2011
Subject: [NU Sports] NU schedules a 4 game series with Stanford
Message-ID: <201104211822.p3LIMxS7012995@romaine.tssi.com>

Northwestern has scheduled a 4 game series with Stanford, from 2019 to 2022.

Stanford comes to Evanston in 2019 and 2021.
--
Mike Nolan

From mzilka at sbcglobal.net  Thu Apr 21 13:57:30 2011
From: mzilka at sbcglobal.net (Marilyn)
Date: Thu Apr 21 13:58:06 2011
Subject: [NU Sports] NU schedules a 4 game series with Stanford
In-Reply-To: <201104211822.p3LIMxS7012995@romaine.tssi.com>
References: <201104211822.p3LIMxS7012995@romaine.tssi.com>
Message-ID: <A7017DE0-28A2-4F08-B4A4-51AFB6C6B2F0@sbcglobal.net>

Army kickoff just announced for 3:30 eastern

Ticket office said away game ticket ordering available early May

On Apr 21, 2011, at 1:22 PM, Mike Nolan <nolan@romaine.tssi.com> wrote:

> Northwestern has scheduled a 4 game series with Stanford, from 2019 to 2022.
> 
> Stanford comes to Evanston in 2019 and 2021.
> --
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From hakirsch at aol.com  Thu Apr 21 13:57:02 2011
From: hakirsch at aol.com (hakirsch@aol.com)
Date: Thu Apr 21 13:59:16 2011
Subject: [NU Sports] NU schedules a 4 game series with Stanford
Message-ID: <709637091-1303412350-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-1108633731-@bda2184.bisx.prod.on.blackberry>

Good to know even if I'm retired by then and have moved from the Bay

Harry
------Original Message------
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To: nwu-sports@romaine.tssi.com
Subject: [NU Sports] NU schedules a 4 game series with Stanford
Sent: Apr 21, 2011 1:22 PM

Northwestern has scheduled a 4 game series with Stanford, from 2019 to 2022.

Stanford comes to Evanston in 2019 and 2021.
--
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From wildelk2 at aol.com  Thu Apr 21 19:48:31 2011
From: wildelk2 at aol.com (wildelk2@aol.com)
Date: Thu Apr 21 19:48:58 2011
Subject: [NU Sports] NU schedules a 4 game series with Stanford
In-Reply-To: <709637091-1303412350-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-1108633731-@bda2184.bisx.prod.on.blackberry>
References: <709637091-1303412350-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-1108633731-@bda2184.bisx.prod.on.blackberry>
Message-ID: <8CDCE9E22575F4F-24B4-D9AB@webmail-m102.sysops.aol.com>

Well, go back to the Bay for the weekend?   Nice 3:30 start at Army BTW.      Go Cats!!    Eric





-----Original Message-----
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To: Mike Nolan <nolan@romaine.tssi.com>; nwu-sports-bounces <nwu-sports-bounces@tssi.com>; nwu-sports <nwu-sports@romaine.tssi.com>
Sent: Thu, Apr 21, 2011 10:59 am
Subject: Re: [NU Sports] NU schedules a 4 game series with Stanford


Good to know even if I'm retired by then and have moved from the Bay

Harry
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To: nwu-sports@romaine.tssi.com
Subject: [NU Sports] NU schedules a 4 game series with Stanford
Sent: Apr 21, 2011 1:22 PM

Northwestern has scheduled a 4 game series with Stanford, from 2019 to 2022.

Stanford comes to Evanston in 2019 and 2021.
--
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From rstetson at capps-assoc.com  Thu Apr 21 22:07:35 2011
From: rstetson at capps-assoc.com (Roy S. Lamberton)
Date: Thu Apr 21 22:07:24 2011
Subject: [NU Sports] Henderson leaving for Princeton....
Message-ID: <003a01cc009a$6e2f50e0$4a8df2a0$@com>

Since coach H was responsible for the guards...

Anyone know where Jitim is now?

rsl

++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
Roy S. Lamberton - Senior Associate & Unix Guru.
Computer Applications & Support Associates
-------------------- Also ----------------------
"Commissioner" Delaware American Legion Baseball
Director Media Relations - Little League 
  Senior League Softball World Series
CTR2 USN (67-70) - CTRCS USNR (Ret) (64-67/70-95)
Northwestern University - Speech 1974 - 
Chi Phi: Pi 1974, KD 1968
Publisher Emeritus: Purple Reign (Fox Sports)
================================================
Opinions expressed above are mine alone and are not
those of any organizations of which I am a member.
------------------------------------------------
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and political correctness is a scale of decline no developed nation 
has yet attempted.? -- Mark Steyn
==========  Go Cats -? Beat 'em All  ===========





From sportsbiz at gmail.com  Sat Apr 23 08:19:53 2011
From: sportsbiz at gmail.com (Sportsbiz)
Date: Sat Apr 23 08:20:28 2011
Subject: [NU Sports] Luke Donald
Message-ID: <BANLkTimXMU8N8jJ9273eM_qwPLG1kTxfPQ@mail.gmail.com>

With a win at The Heritage at Hilton Head this weekend, where this morning
Luke holds a one stroke lead heading into today's third round, he will
ascend to the world's number one rank, knocking out Martin Kaymer and
overtaking Lee Westwood, who is currently second.  Luke started the weekend
ranked number three in the world rankings.  The possibility of being number
one is apparently not much of a distraction as he shot a 65 yesterday.
Mark

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From nolan at romaine.tssi.com  Sat Apr 23 12:41:33 2011
From: nolan at romaine.tssi.com (Mike Nolan)
Date: Sat Apr 23 12:41:35 2011
Subject: [NU Sports] NWU Sports List going offline, possibly for a few days
Message-ID: <201104231741.p3NHfX8A004675@romaine.tssi.com>

I'm in the process of doing some upgrades to the server that runs the
NWU Sports List, and am about to the point where I will need to shut 
it down while I install a new mail server and update the list server.

I'll send out a message when things are working again.  (There could be
a few test messages, but I may not need to do that.)

Any messages that get sent to the list while the server is shut 
down should get queued up on my gateway mail server.
--
Mike Nolan

From rstetson at capps-assoc.com  Mon Apr 25 11:44:55 2011
From: rstetson at capps-assoc.com (Roy S. Lamberton)
Date: Mon Apr 25 23:52:06 2011
Subject: [NU Sports] Mandel on the dOSU "problems..."
Message-ID: <000201cc0368$1d168900$57439b00$@com>

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2011/writers/stewart_mandel/04/25/ohio-state-tressel-ncaa
/index.html

Could there be a new had guy in Columbus come October?

Or will they cut bait and get a new guy for the start of the season.

rsl

++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
Roy S. Lamberton - Senior Associate & Unix Guru.
Computer Applications & Support Associates
-------------------- Also ----------------------
"Commissioner" Delaware American Legion Baseball
Director Media Relations - Little League 
  Senior League Softball World Series
CTR2 USN (67-70) - CTRCS USNR (Ret) (64-67/70-95)
Northwestern University - Speech 1974 - 
Chi Phi: Pi 1974, KD 1968
Publisher Emeritus: Purple Reign (Fox Sports)
================================================
Opinions expressed above are mine alone and are not
those of any organizations of which I am a member.
------------------------------------------------
If you think that there might be some form of practical 'clean energy'
that could appease the environmentalists--say, geothermal--you're 
missing the point. The whole environmentalist idea of a minimal 
'footprint' is fundamentally anti-energy." --Alex Epstein
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From rstetson at capps-assoc.com  Mon Apr 25 11:38:32 2011
From: rstetson at capps-assoc.com (Roy S. Lamberton)
Date: Mon Apr 25 23:52:19 2011
Subject: [NU Sports] Tressell LIED?
Message-ID: <000101cc0367$37b8e240$a72aa6c0$@com>

The NCAA is accusing Ohio State coach Jim Tressel of lying to hide violations by players
who traded memorabilia for cash and tattoos.

http://www.suntimes.com/sports/colleges/5013201-419/ncaa-alleges-osu-coach-jim-tressel-lie
d.html

St. James didn't tell the truth - what will the dOSU faithful do now?

rsl

++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
Roy S. Lamberton - Senior Associate & Unix Guru.
Computer Applications & Support Associates
-------------------- Also ----------------------
"Commissioner" Delaware American Legion Baseball
Director Media Relations - Little League 
  Senior League Softball World Series
CTR2 USN (67-70) - CTRCS USNR (Ret) (64-67/70-95)
Northwestern University - Speech 1974 - 
Chi Phi: Pi 1974, KD 1968
Publisher Emeritus: Purple Reign (Fox Sports)
================================================
Opinions expressed above are mine alone and are not
those of any organizations of which I am a member.
------------------------------------------------
If you think that there might be some form of practical 'clean energy'
that could appease the environmentalists--say, geothermal--you're 
missing the point. The whole environmentalist idea of a minimal 
'footprint' is fundamentally anti-energy." --Alex Epstein
==========  Go Cats -? Beat 'em All  ===========





From nolan at romaine.tssi.com  Tue Apr 26 11:41:01 2011
From: nolan at romaine.tssi.com (Mike Nolan)
Date: Tue Apr 26 11:41:03 2011
Subject: [NU Sports] Mandel on the dOSU "problems..."
In-Reply-To: <000201cc0368$1d168900$57439b00$@com> from "Roy S. Lamberton" at
	Apr 25, 2011 12:44:55 PM
Message-ID: <201104261641.p3QGf1Z4009870@romaine.tssi.com>

> http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2011/writers/stewart_mandel/04/25/ohio-state-tressel-ncaa
> /index.html
> 
> Could there be a new had guy in Columbus come October?
> 
> Or will they cut bait and get a new guy for the start of the season.

Mandel is always quick to jump on someone else's bandwagon, and SI
is behind ESPN in 'coaches fired' at the moment. :-)

Do I expect OSU to fire their coach?  Nope.  
--
Mike Nolan

PS.  The testing on the new server is going slower than I thought, so
what I'm probably going to do is keep the old server online except when
I'm working on the new one, probably in the evening, so email
doesn't get backed up badly.  

From hakirsch at aol.com  Tue Apr 26 11:50:34 2011
From: hakirsch at aol.com (hakirsch@aol.com)
Date: Tue Apr 26 11:50:38 2011
Subject: [NU Sports] Mandel on the dOSU "problems..."
Message-ID: <2094973136-1303836634-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-1510319405-@bda2184.bisx.prod.on.blackberry>

Mike

 I think I speak for all of us in thanking you for the work you do for our list serve. Not only nice to share the banter but it has been nice meeting some fellow listers from our little family at bowl games.  Don't work too hard on the upgrade !

Harry
------Original Message------
From: Mike Nolan
Sender: nwu-sports-bounces@tssi.com
To: Roy S. Lamberton
Cc: nwu-sports@tssi.com
Subject: Re: [NU Sports] Mandel on the dOSU "problems..."
Sent: Apr 26, 2011 9:41 AM

> http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2011/writers/stewart_mandel/04/25/ohio-state-tressel-ncaa
> /index.html
> 
> Could there be a new had guy in Columbus come October?
> 
> Or will they cut bait and get a new guy for the start of the season.

Mandel is always quick to jump on someone else's bandwagon, and SI
is behind ESPN in 'coaches fired' at the moment. :-)

Do I expect OSU to fire their coach?  Nope.  
--
Mike Nolan

PS.  The testing on the new server is going slower than I thought, so
what I'm probably going to do is keep the old server online except when
I'm working on the new one, probably in the evening, so email
doesn't get backed up badly.  

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From eschoeman at sbcglobal.net  Tue Apr 26 12:07:53 2011
From: eschoeman at sbcglobal.net (Evans Schoeman)
Date: Tue Apr 26 12:07:56 2011
Subject: [NU Sports] Mandel on the dOSU "problems..."
In-Reply-To: <201104261641.p3QGf1Z4009870@romaine.tssi.com>
References: <201104261641.p3QGf1Z4009870@romaine.tssi.com>
Message-ID: <907408.97063.qm@web83909.mail.sp1.yahoo.com>

Regarding Mandel's comment on tOSU fan support of Tressel, I took a look at the 
Columbus Dispatch web site yesterday and found the feed-back on Tressel to be 
surprisingly negative.

Most comments were of the sort, "It's time for him to step down".? There were a 
couple who said something like, ""When it's revealed that Tressel was 
cooperating with the FBI, he will be exonerated".






________________________________
From: Mike Nolan <nolan@romaine.tssi.com>
To: Roy S. Lamberton <rstetson@capps-assoc.com>
Cc: nwu-sports@tssi.com
Sent: Tue, April 26, 2011 11:41:01 AM
Subject: Re: [NU Sports] Mandel on the dOSU "problems..."

>http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2011/writers/stewart_mandel/04/25/ohio-state-tressel-ncaa
>a
> /index.html
> 
> Could there be a new had guy in Columbus come October?
> 
> Or will they cut bait and get a new guy for the start of the season.

Mandel is always quick to jump on someone else's bandwagon, and SI
is behind ESPN in 'coaches fired' at the moment. :-)

Do I expect OSU to fire their coach?? Nope.? 
--
Mike Nolan

PS.? The testing on the new server is going slower than I thought, so
what I'm probably going to do is keep the old server online except when
I'm working on the new one, probably in the evening, so email
doesn't get backed up badly.? 

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From Willie.Weinbaum at espn.com  Tue Apr 26 12:13:03 2011
From: Willie.Weinbaum at espn.com (Weinbaum, Willie)
Date: Tue Apr 26 12:14:20 2011
Subject: [NU Sports] Mandel on the dOSU "problems..."
In-Reply-To: <2094973136-1303836634-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-1510319405-@bda2184.bisx.prod.on.blackberry>
Message-ID: <1F89BB2CE7A5B94D969618E8CC769CC36AA6627B@XCHGBRS4.corp.espn.pvt>

I second Harry's motion - thanks very much for all that you do for all of us!

>From Blackberry - please excuse typos

W. Weinbaum
Producer
212-916-9864 (24-hour voicemail)
willie.weinbaum@espn.com

----- Original Message -----
From: nwu-sports-bounces@tssi.com <nwu-sports-bounces@tssi.com>
To: Mike Nolan <nolan@romaine.tssi.com>; nwu-sports-bounces@tssi.com <nwu-sports-bounces@tssi.com>; Roy S. Lamberton <rstetson@capps-assoc.com>
Cc: nwu-sports@tssi.com <nwu-sports@tssi.com>
Sent: Tue Apr 26 12:50:34 2011
Subject: Re: [NU Sports] Mandel on the dOSU "problems..."

Mike

 I think I speak for all of us in thanking you for the work you do for our list serve. Not only nice to share the banter but it has been nice meeting some fellow listers from our little family at bowl games.  Don't work too hard on the upgrade !

Harry
------Original Message------
From: Mike Nolan
Sender: nwu-sports-bounces@tssi.com
To: Roy S. Lamberton
Cc: nwu-sports@tssi.com
Subject: Re: [NU Sports] Mandel on the dOSU "problems..."
Sent: Apr 26, 2011 9:41 AM

> http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2011/writers/stewart_mandel/04/25/ohio-state-tressel-ncaa
> /index.html
>
> Could there be a new had guy in Columbus come October?
>
> Or will they cut bait and get a new guy for the start of the season.

Mandel is always quick to jump on someone else's bandwagon, and SI
is behind ESPN in 'coaches fired' at the moment. :-)

Do I expect OSU to fire their coach?  Nope.
--
Mike Nolan

PS.  The testing on the new server is going slower than I thought, so
what I'm probably going to do is keep the old server online except when
I'm working on the new one, probably in the evening, so email
doesn't get backed up badly.

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From tbng at comcast.net  Tue Apr 26 15:14:21 2011
From: tbng at comcast.net (Dennis W. Brandt)
Date: Tue Apr 26 15:14:31 2011
Subject: [NU Sports] Sports list
References: <1F89BB2CE7A5B94D969618E8CC769CC36AA6627B@XCHGBRS4.corp.espn.pvt>
Message-ID: <5032A8E49BCD436991F4448B96CD295F@dennismachine>

>I second Harry's motion - thanks very much for all that you do for all of 
>us!

And I third it.  All in favor say, "Aye!" 

From tkmaycock at yahoo.com  Tue Apr 26 15:19:43 2011
From: tkmaycock at yahoo.com (Tom Maycock)
Date: Tue Apr 26 15:19:58 2011
Subject: [NU Sports] Sports list
In-Reply-To: <5032A8E49BCD436991F4448B96CD295F@dennismachine>
References: <1F89BB2CE7A5B94D969618E8CC769CC36AA6627B@XCHGBRS4.corp.espn.pvt>
	<5032A8E49BCD436991F4448B96CD295F@dennismachine>
Message-ID: <768887.533.qm@web33101.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

Aye!

Seriously, it's easy to take for granted, and we don't say "thank you" nearly 
enough, but "Thank You!". 

Tom

From rstetson at capps-assoc.com  Tue Apr 26 16:44:43 2011
From: rstetson at capps-assoc.com (Roy S. Lamberton)
Date: Tue Apr 26 16:44:34 2011
Subject: [NU Sports] Mandel on the dOSU "problems..."
In-Reply-To: <201104261641.p3QGf1Z4009870@romaine.tssi.com>
References: <000201cc0368$1d168900$57439b00$@com> from "Roy S. Lamberton" at
	Apr 25,
	2011 12:44:55 PM <201104261641.p3QGf1Z4009870@romaine.tssi.com>
Message-ID: <002801cc045b$27d7f060$7787d120$@com>

Ahh, the joy of the upgrade with equipment change. Know it well, and am glad I don't have
any scheduled for the foreseeable future.

Most of us remember when this was the ONLY Northwestern University chat board - I'm amazed
that it is still here, running 100% and full of life.

Mike provided us a platform that has never wavered - it's still running 24/7, unlike many
of the other boards that I've had a hand in.

Thanks again for all you do Mike - NU would be hard to follow without this place.

rsl



++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
Roy S. Lamberton - Senior Associate & Unix Guru.
Computer Applications & Support Associates
-------------------- Also ----------------------
"Commissioner" Delaware American Legion Baseball
Director Media Relations - Little League 
  Senior League Softball World Series
CTR2 USN (67-70) - CTRCS USNR (Ret) (64-67/70-95)
Northwestern University - Speech 1974 - 
Chi Phi: Pi 1974, KD 1968
Publisher Emeritus: Purple Reign (Fox Sports)
================================================
Opinions expressed above are mine alone and are not
those of any organizations of which I am a member.
------------------------------------------------
If you think that there might be some form of practical 'clean energy'
that could appease the environmentalists--say, geothermal--you're 
missing the point. The whole environmentalist idea of a minimal 
'footprint' is fundamentally anti-energy." --Alex Epstein
==========  Go Cats -? Beat 'em All  ===========


PS.  The testing on the new server is going slower than I thought, so
what I'm probably going to do is keep the old server online except when
I'm working on the new one, probably in the evening, so email
doesn't get backed up badly.  



From nolan at romaine.tssi.com  Tue Apr 26 18:13:38 2011
From: nolan at romaine.tssi.com (Mike Nolan)
Date: Tue Apr 26 18:13:39 2011
Subject: [NU Sports] Mandel on the dOSU "problems..."
In-Reply-To: <002801cc045b$27d7f060$7787d120$@com> from "Roy S. Lamberton" at
	Apr 26, 2011 05:44:43 PM
Message-ID: <201104262313.p3QNDcPB011045@romaine.tssi.com>

> Ahh, the joy of the upgrade with equipment change. Know it well, and am glad I don't have
> any scheduled for the foreseeable future.

I have several upgrades possible this year for clients (depending on
budgeting), this is actually something of a trial run for me.  

But getting all the tools I'm used to working with running again is 
always time-consuming, especially if there are upgrades to them that 
mean you have to figure out what changed.  
 
> Most of us remember when this was the ONLY Northwestern University chat board - I'm amazed
> that it is still here, running 100% and full of life.
> 
> Mike provided us a platform that has never wavered - it's still running 24/7, unlike many
> of the other boards that I've had a hand in.
> 
> Thanks again for all you do Mike - NU would be hard to follow without this place.

I'm hoping that the upgrade will provide some more visibility than what
we've had in the past, maybe a publicly accessible archive on the web, 
though most likely not one in a 'blog' format.  
--
Mike Nolan

From sjtruog at yahoo.com  Tue Apr 26 20:25:51 2011
From: sjtruog at yahoo.com (SjT (Stephen J. Truog))
Date: Tue Apr 26 20:25:56 2011
Subject: [NU Sports] Beano???
Message-ID: <280365.29798.qm@web121703.mail.ne1.yahoo.com>

I've kind of been watching this OSU mess from the sidelines - more as schadenfraude and shedding no tears - but this story on PTI today caught my eye:

http://content.usatoday.com/communities/campusrivalry/post/2011/04/beano-cook-urban-meyer-ohio-state-jim-tressel/1

So your answer to a program under NCAA scrutiny is to hire a coach who had a couple dozen players arrested during a brief tenure in Gainesville??? Give me a break.

And as a second reaction ... thank goodness Lloyd Carr is gone or else OSU/Michigan week with Carr and Meyer would drown under all the whine coming from the two coaches.

But thanks for the laugh, Beano. How many Heismans is Ron Powlus going to win again? :) Between that and RichRod's interview saying it was a "mistake" to leave Morgantown for Michigan, it's been a good week for humor in the college football world.

Seriously though, this OSU mess is not going away - the one Buckeye fan I teach with is getting worried. I don't think they'll get rid of Tressel, but I do think this could impact the team over the next few years in recruiting and such.

GO CATS!!!
-SjT

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GO CATS!!! GEAUX SAINTS!!!
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From MHRJGScott at aol.com  Tue Apr 26 21:15:18 2011
From: MHRJGScott at aol.com (MHRJGScott@aol.com)
Date: Tue Apr 26 21:15:32 2011
Subject: [NU Sports] Beano???
Message-ID: <891c.5568ff84.3ae8d636@aol.com>

Yes a lot of talk here about Urban going to dOSU, he is from Toledo (which  
may explain his charm) and was an asst. at dOSU early on. could happen as I 
 think Tressel is a goner. 
From Willie.Weinbaum at espn.com  Fri Apr 29 10:34:03 2011
From: Willie.Weinbaum at espn.com (Weinbaum, Willie)
Date: Fri Apr 29 10:35:38 2011
Subject: [NU Sports] FW: Northwestern pitcher Luke Farrell strikes out
	adversity 
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http://www.suntimes.com/sports/colleges/5078539-417/northwestern-pitcher-luke-farrell-strikes-out-adversity.html


