[NU Sports] And then there's this

[Jonathan Hodges]

NU students may be bad, but Evanston hates those chickens, too:

http://www.cityofevanston.org/assets/23-O-10%20Hen%20ordinance%20w%20%20floor%20amendments.pdf

Jonathan

On Fri, Oct 15, 2010 at 1:20 PM, mlinhardt at netzero.com <
mlinhardt at netzero.com> wrote:

> I understand your statement, but the question to the Evanstoner residents
> should be the same as the question to the Wrigleyville residents -- why did
> you buy here knowing the proclivity for boisterousness?
> I like peace and quite more than most, but I would not expect a quiet
> street scene if I lived in Lincoln Park vs. living in Kenilworth.
> When you buy a house you have to assume that any nuisance will only get
> worse, not better over time.  Only in the city limits of Chicago, NYC, and
> San Francisco do some neighborhoods get better over time as the population
> gentrifies.  Everywhere else established suburbs and most cities are
> generally headed into decline at varying rates.
>
> ---------- Original Message ----------
> From: "Beamsley, Jeff"
>
> As many on this list know, I don't often agree with Dennis, but this is an
> exception.
>
> As much as we may want it to be, Evanston is not will likely never be a
> college town.
>
> I can list off the reasons, if anyone cares to dispute this.  Everyone who
> has attended the Evanston campus can testify how different it is from
> virtually any other Big Ten Univeristy because of the absence of the student
> ghetto buffer between the university and the rest of the town.
>
> As a result of not being a college town, Evanston and Northwestern have
> always found themselves at odds over things like Northwestern taking
> property off the Evanston tax rolls and Evanston providing Northwestern
> services that it does not get reimbursed for.
>
> There has also been an uneasy truce between those non-university people who
> live in very nice houses very close to campus, and students who live in not
> so nice houses very close to campus.  Evanston does not want to see their
> existing old housing stock turned into a student ghetto.  They feel it is
> Northwestern's responsibility to provide housing for their students.  Those
> students who choose not to live in Northwesten housing are expected to
> behave as any other member of thier off-campus neighborhood.  Those who have
> spent a lot of money to buy one of the wonderful old houses in the
> neighborhoods near campus have every right to complain about a noisy,
> disruptive neighbor regardless of their age or affiliation.  They also have
> every right, when it is a student, to let the University know that some of
> their students are being rude and irresponsible.  Just as they have every
> right to complain to the city if the police or firefighters held a similar
> party, or complain to the church if a revival meeting got out of hand.
>
> None of these rules apply to college towns where the boundaries of the
> student ghetto are usually well known and the city and their residents have
> long ago agreed that the primary purpose of the city is to host the school.
>  Even a place like Ann Arbor which has grown well past it's roots as the
> home of UoM still retains that student-friendly vibe which has never been
> present in Evanston.
>
> Jeff
>
>
>
> ________________________________
>
> From: nwu-sports-bounces at tssi.com on behalf of Dennis W. Brandt
> Sent: Fri 10/15/2010 12:57 PM
> To: SjT (Stephen J. Truog); Joe Thiegs
> Cc: Northwestern Wildcats
> Subject: Re: [NU Sports] And then there's this
>
>
>
> > They [Evanston residents] obviously knew there were students there, so
> use
> > common sense on the evening of the one night football game allowed each
> > year! :) And honestly, those pictures are indistinguishable from any
> > backyard in Chicagoland after the Fourth of July or Labor Day weekend.
>
> Ah, yes.  The old justification of bad behavior by pointing to other bad
> behavior.  We had a similar problem here in York with York College
> students,
> who have no football games to attend.  The cops clamped down, and they
> should have.  No homeowner should have to tolerate such intolerable
> behavior.  Don't make excuses for them.
>
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