[NU Sports] A disgrace

[cherron604 at aol.com]

 When we are debating words, our question should be 'What would the programs that we want to be like call a game like this ?'  What would Michigan, Ohio State, Nebraska, Iowa, or Wisconsin say ?

I believe that those schools would say that dominating a solid team for 29 minutes, on the road, then collapsing and giving up 35 unanswered points, would be 

- embarassing
- a disgrace

As well as a few other choice terms

Chuck Herron   Tech '85


 


 

 

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Yeah. I pretty much agree that an undefeated TCU team should get the nod over a 

1 loss team.  Not sure I feel the same way about Boise as they don't have a 

blowout win (on the road no less) of a top 5 team. But as for entertainment,  

who besides TCU fans wouldn't prefer Boise?  The Fiesta bowl win over OK was one 

of the most enjoyable games many of us had ever seen. Too bad for those East 

coast fans who didn't stay awake for it



Yes the Rose Bowl rule seems a bit nuts. Of course those from the BT and Pac 1O 

are so used to the standard match up most of the past 65 years that the 

tradition seems sacrosanct.  



And I still think NU should be embarrassed. Not just losing by 14 in Happy 

Valley but doing just about everything wrong the last 31 minutes of the game.  

It had to be more than just out-talented 



Harry

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Subject: Re: [NU Sports] A disgrace



> With yesterdays embarrassing loss by

> our Cats, I only wish to discuss the BCS title game. 



Frustrating? Yes. Maddening? Sure. Embarrassing? Not so much for me - Happy 

Valley is a tough place and once they scored before half, you could feel that 

momentum avalanche coming on JoePa's special day.



But anyway, I'd love to talk B(C)S. :)



> Does TCU's blowout of Utah imply they are that good or is

> Utah that bad ? (Or some of both ?) 



It was a heck of a statement - but the other games of the day seemed to have 

more of an impact overall. Bama losing was huge because the Tide almost 

certainly would have jumped over unbeaten Boise and TCU at the end. Ditto for 

Oklahoma's loss. On the flip side, Oregon State's loss hurts as that's one of 

the few quality wins TCU and Boise both have (though Boise's win vs. VaTech 

looks better now).



> If  Oregon,Auburn

> ,BSU,and TCU all run the table does that make it easy to

> have a Duck/Tiger title game ?  Does an Auburn loss in

> their own title game allow TCU in ?   



Yeah, it's in Oregon/Auburn's court now - but both have tough tests at their 

arch rival's to end the year (and the claim of SEC superiority is losing steam 

every week with 60+ point shootouts against porous defenses and .500 teams in 

the title game from the east).



Right now, it appears TCU is set to jump in should someone slip, though Boise 

has a slightly tougher schedule left and did beat the Froggies last year in the 

Fiesta Bowl. I think if you asked most fans, they'd rather see Boise get a crack 

at Oregon than TCU.



The list of 1-loss teams who could jump TCU/Boise is pretty much at zero right 

now with Bama and Oklahoma losing. Wisconsin and MSU don't have any real big 

games left. Ohio State has one at Iowa but needs that Big Ten title game to come 

early. Nebraska and Oklahoma State have a shot, but I think even the computers 

are seeing the Big XII as overrated at this point. And LSU might have a case, 

but they won't even make it into the SEC title game barring a miracle ... though 

that's happened before.



My question is what happens if Oregon and a non-AQ get in the title game while 

Boise is still #3 or #4 - does that make the Rose Bowl obligated to take the AQ 

team over Stanford? Since the Fiesta is pretty much stuck with the Big Least 

team, the Treez need the Rose as they don't have the fans (couldn't even fill 

half their stadium for a prime time showdown last night!) for Orange or Sugar 

at-large selection.



I think the real question the B(C)S folks need to look at (besides that absurd 

Rose Bowl rule) is why the Big Least and ACC are allowed automatic bids at all. 

The Mountain West is clearly more deserving of a bid and was the last couple 

years. Right now, the ACC and Big East will be lucky to have as many teams 

ranked combined as the Mountain West.



TCU may deserve it, but Auburn's gonna get the bid unless they lose. Ditto for 

the Ducks. But the other games yesterday pretty much ensure that if the Tigers 

fall to the Tide or if the Ducks drop one to the Beavers, a non-AQ team will get 

their Butler-esque shot at the title. I just wish it were Boise, as I think they 

would have a great game with Oregon whereas I think TCU will get blitzed like a 

deer in the headlights.



GO CATS!!!

-SjT