[NU Sports] 2011 & Divisions

[Jim Bendat]

Actually, even after Oklahoma got crushed by Kansas State (35-7) in 2003, they still got to play in the BCS championship game (the 2004 Sugar Bowl) against LSU. They lost again. 


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>I've always considered championship games much like conference basketball
>tournaments - just another large money grab and an opportunity for your best
>team not to advance to the next stage.  It your regular season champion is
>forced to play a championship game against a weak divisional championship
>(i.e. the Big XII North) then there your true champion, the one who earned
>it all season long, faces the prospect of losing out due to any myriad of
>factors that could affect a single game.  Think back to Kansas State in
>2003.  KSU went into the championship game with a relatively weak record,
>knocked off a  consensus number one Oklahoma and not only crushed the
>Sooners national title hopes but if I remember correctly knocked them out of
>a BCS bowl altogether.  Now, maybe the Sooners had been overrated but the
>issue remains.  Why penalize your regular season champion - for money of
>course, same reason every decision in college football is being made these
>days.
>Mark
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>On Sat, Jun 12, 2010 at 12:49 AM, <hakirsch at aol.com> wrote:
>
>> I assume if  the Big 12 liquidates or even winds up with 10 teams  there
>> won't be a championship game because of the 12 team minimum. To me that
>> would be a shame. It always was an enjoyable game in december with many
>> upsets and memorable games over the years.
>>
>> The BT "championship" game so many years was simply the michigan/osu game.
>>  It will be tough getting used to
>>
>> Harry
>> Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry
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>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Jonathan Hodges <jonathanwhodges at gmail.com>
>> Date: Fri, 11 Jun 2010 22:05:02
>> To: Jim Leonard<jleonard518 at yahoo.com>
>> Cc: <nwu-sports at romaine.tssi.com>
>> Subject: Re: [NU Sports] 2011 & Divisions
>>
>> I watched the expansion special on the BTN this evening (which was well
>> done
>> despite the short notice) and the issue came up there.  Delany seemed
>> pretty
>> clear that there would be a conference championship game (even though,
>> based
>> on previous comments he has made, he doesn't necessarily like it).  And in
>> terms of scheduling, the following three factors are key (in order of
>> importance):
>>
>> 1. Competitive balance
>> 2. Rivalries (noting some are more important than others)
>> 3. Geography
>>
>> I think we'll hear more about how the conference is divided (they may not
>> even go to permanant divisions) sometime over the next 6 months.
>>
>> I think Delany also made it clear that they will continue to study
>> expansion
>> over the next year or so and will leave the door open to future moves, but
>> right now a lot of the effort will be put into integrating Nebraska into
>> the
>> conference before a very aggressive deadline of July 1, 2011.  Remember
>> that
>> it took Penn State over 3 years to fully integrate into the conference
>> starting in 1990.
>>
>> BUT, Delany and the Big Ten are smart and will move when necessary, as they
>> did in moving their timeline to get Nebraska on board, so if things get
>> crazy over the next few weeks I would imagine they would be open to further
>> moves IF the schools meet all of their criteria.
>>
>>
>> Jonathan
>>
>>
>> On Jun 11, 2010 9:47 PM, "Jim Leonard" <jleonard518 at yahoo.com> wrote:
>>
>> I just read the announcement on bigten.org. There is no mention of two
>> 6-team divisions. I would think this would all be ironed out if the
>> conference management team knew we were stopping at twelve teams.
>>
>> My guess is that we get two more teams before the dust settles.  My gut
>> tells me we lose out on Texas (fine by me) but add Missouri and Notre Dame.
>>
>> Has there been any talk of divisions if Nebraska were the only new team?
>>
>> Go U UN :-)
>> Jim
>>
>>
>>
>>
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