From rstetson at capps-assoc.com  Tue Sep  1 07:27:36 2009
From: rstetson at capps-assoc.com (Roy Lamberton)
Date: Tue Sep  1 07:27:42 2009
Subject: [NU Sports] UMich Investigating Allegations
	of	ImproperPractices--Rich Rod in Deep Doo Doo
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Remember back when Randy Walker came in and shook things up in Evanston?

Don't you guys remember all of the whining and crying as RW shook the tree
to see who would fall and who would hang on and stay? And there were
allegations of impropriety surrounding the summer workouts prior to
Rashidi's sad end.

I can remember reading (and hearing) reports that players were in near
revolt (for NU) over some of the coaches' attitudes about playing intensity,
etc.

Every time a new coach come in and changes something, the players who were
recruited for the old system start to whine and cry because they don't know
how to play in the new setup. But football is football, you still have to
block, run and tackle.

Michigan was a top team, but never one to reach the very top. Can Rod do it?
Won't know until he gets his ducks lined up, but every time you sit a
starter today, it seems that the grumbling is on the web and in the papers
within minutes.

rsl 

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-----Original Message-----
From: nwu-sports-bounces@tssi.com [mailto:nwu-sports-bounces@tssi.com] On
Behalf Of SjT (Stephen J. Truog)
Sent: Tuesday, September 01, 2009 12:45 AM
To: nwu-sports@romaine.tssi.com
Subject: Re: [NU Sports] UMich Investigating Allegations of
ImproperPractices--Rich Rod in Deep Doo Doo

> While the investigation may or may
> not turn out to be big trouble for Big
> Blue, what their fans should be worried about is how many
> players RichRod
> has thoroughly ticked off.? Multiple players were

Exactly - this is just one of several reports that have come from Ann Arbor
during his brief tenure. It may not be Calapari-esqe in nature, but for a
place like Michigan football, this is bad.

Whether we like Michigan or not, their football (not basketball) program has
had a reputation similar to IU basketball under Bob Knight -- winners who
were clean and took pride in winning the right way. Moeller tarnished that a
bit off the field personally and was let go. Carr was more in the
Schembechler tradition.

So for a new coach to come in and change everything about this tradition
rich program and then get into some NCAA heat on top of it while suffering a
losing record may be too much. RichRod better get rid of this fast and not
let it become a season-long story or the already daunting task of beating
Notre Dame and OSU might not even be enough to save his job.

GO CATS!!!
-SjT


      

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From tbng at comcast.net  Tue Sep  1 07:49:20 2009
From: tbng at comcast.net (Dennis W. Brandt)
Date: Tue Sep  1 07:49:51 2009
Subject: [NU Sports] Wanna bet?
Message-ID: <FEFE2EC568F5492E9B25C4F5DC50E6F7@DennisMachine>

Anyone care to wager as to which coach made the worst career move in college football?  Barnett or Rodriguez?  It sure went downhill for both of them after they left their comfy positions.
From sjtruog at yahoo.com  Tue Sep  1 08:27:38 2009
From: sjtruog at yahoo.com (SjT (Stephen J. Truog))
Date: Tue Sep  1 08:27:45 2009
Subject: [NU Sports] UMich Investigating Allegations of
	ImproperPractices--Rich Rod in Deep Doo Doo
In-Reply-To: <004801ca2aff$96e5cc70$c4b16550$@com>
Message-ID: <452421.22816.qm@web52909.mail.re2.yahoo.com>

Well, there's rumblings in Evanston and then there's rumblings in Ann Arbor and a bubbling NCAA investigation to go with it.

To me this seems more like the changeover at Nebraska -- a successful program that wanted a bit more so it brought in someone new ... someone with people skills somewhat lacking and who suffered some losing seasons in the transition. That's a tough enough task in Lincoln or Ann Arbor ... but now RichRod has NCAA scandal talk dogging the program too.

The Huskers are just now starting to emerge from those rough transition years (and that's mostly because of a favorable Big XII structure that has UNL as a title game favorite even though they'd likely finish in the upper-middle of the pack if all teams were together).

Part of this is players griping about changes ... but a big part of this is also RichRod rubbing the establishment in Ann Arbor the wrong way. And while college coaches can pretty much treat their players however they want, ticking off the alumni and boosters is not a recipe for long-term survival.

GO CATS!!!
-SjT

* * * * * * * * *
STEPHEN J. TRUOG
sjtruog@yahoo.com
GO CATS!!!


      

From Jeff.Beamsley at covisint.com  Tue Sep  1 08:30:49 2009
From: Jeff.Beamsley at covisint.com (Beamsley, Jeff)
Date: Tue Sep  1 08:31:13 2009
Subject: [NU Sports] Wanna bet?
In-Reply-To: <FEFE2EC568F5492E9B25C4F5DC50E6F7@DennisMachine>
References: <FEFE2EC568F5492E9B25C4F5DC50E6F7@DennisMachine>
Message-ID: <E7219AB80B8E354C9A22B0D2CB1EF5AE06485D90@nasa-dtw-ex004.nasa.cpwr.corp>

Again, you underestimate that power and influence of Michigan.

They have already said that they have a full-time compliance officer who
checks on all of their programs regularly.  

The AD and alums were onboard with the need to make a radical coaching
change and shake up the program.  That includes pushing kids harder than
Carr may have been willing to do.  

They understand as Coach pointed out that these transitions are always
challenging for players recruited by previous coach.  

There may be smoke here, but by the time the investigation is done,
there will be no fire (pun intended).

Jeff


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From: nwu-sports-bounces@tssi.com [mailto:nwu-sports-bounces@tssi.com]
On Behalf Of Dennis W. Brandt
Sent: Tuesday, September 01, 2009 8:49 AM
To: nwu-sports@tssi.com
Subject: [NU Sports] Wanna bet?

Anyone care to wager as to which coach made the worst career move in
college football?  Barnett or Rodriguez?  It sure went downhill for both
of them after they left their comfy positions.
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From Jeff.Beamsley at covisint.com  Tue Sep  1 08:36:05 2009
From: Jeff.Beamsley at covisint.com (Beamsley, Jeff)
Date: Tue Sep  1 08:36:13 2009
Subject: [NU Sports] UMich Investigating Allegations
	ofImproperPractices--Rich Rod in Deep Doo Doo
In-Reply-To: <452421.22816.qm@web52909.mail.re2.yahoo.com>
References: <004801ca2aff$96e5cc70$c4b16550$@com>
	<452421.22816.qm@web52909.mail.re2.yahoo.com>
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The only trouble RichRod will be in is if his team continues to perform
poorly on the field.

No one expects them to win the BT this year, but they do expect
significant improvement over last year with a lot of underclassmen
playing and some glimmers of hope from this recruiting class.

Jeff


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From: nwu-sports-bounces@tssi.com [mailto:nwu-sports-bounces@tssi.com]
On Behalf Of SjT (Stephen J. Truog)
Sent: Tuesday, September 01, 2009 9:28 AM
To: nwu-sports@romaine.tssi.com; Roy Lamberton
Subject: RE: [NU Sports] UMich Investigating Allegations
ofImproperPractices--Rich Rod in Deep Doo Doo

Well, there's rumblings in Evanston and then there's rumblings in Ann
Arbor and a bubbling NCAA investigation to go with it.

To me this seems more like the changeover at Nebraska -- a successful
program that wanted a bit more so it brought in someone new ... someone
with people skills somewhat lacking and who suffered some losing seasons
in the transition. That's a tough enough task in Lincoln or Ann Arbor
... but now RichRod has NCAA scandal talk dogging the program too.

The Huskers are just now starting to emerge from those rough transition
years (and that's mostly because of a favorable Big XII structure that
has UNL as a title game favorite even though they'd likely finish in the
upper-middle of the pack if all teams were together).

Part of this is players griping about changes ... but a big part of this
is also RichRod rubbing the establishment in Ann Arbor the wrong way.
And while college coaches can pretty much treat their players however
they want, ticking off the alumni and boosters is not a recipe for
long-term survival.

GO CATS!!!
-SjT

* * * * * * * * *
STEPHEN J. TRUOG
sjtruog@yahoo.com
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From johnadeg at comcast.net  Tue Sep  1 09:19:52 2009
From: johnadeg at comcast.net (johnadeg@comcast.net)
Date: Tue Sep  1 09:20:10 2009
Subject: [NU Sports] Wanna bet?
In-Reply-To: <E7219AB80B8E354C9A22B0D2CB1EF5AE06485D90@nasa-dtw-ex004.nasa.cpwr.corp>
Message-ID: <1935905786.6133111251814792401.JavaMail.root@sz0080a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net>

Rich came to Ann Arbor with a less than clean reputation.  If the past is prologue, look out Michigan.  He recruited some pretty unsavory players at WV an even tried to bring a couple of them to Ann Arbor.  Rich wasn't Michigan's first choice to replace Carr.  The guy at LSU, a Michigan player, was and he turned them down.

John DeGroat
----- Original Message -----
From: Jeff Beamsley 
To: nwu-sports@tssi.com
Sent: Tue, 1 Sep 2009 13:30:49 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: RE: [NU Sports] Wanna bet?

Again, you underestimate that power and influence of Michigan.

They have already said that they have a full-time compliance officer who
checks on all of their programs regularly.  

The AD and alums were onboard with the need to make a radical coaching
change and shake up the program.  That includes pushing kids harder than
Carr may have been willing to do.  

They understand as Coach pointed out that these transitions are always
challenging for players recruited by previous coach.  

There may be smoke here, but by the time the investigation is done,
there will be no fire (pun intended).

Jeff


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From: nwu-sports-bounces@tssi.com [mailto:nwu-sports-bounces@tssi.com]
On Behalf Of Dennis W. Brandt
Sent: Tuesday, September 01, 2009 8:49 AM
To: nwu-sports@tssi.com
Subject: [NU Sports] Wanna bet?

Anyone care to wager as to which coach made the worst career move in
college football?  Barnett or Rodriguez?  It sure went downhill for both
of them after they left their comfy positions.
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From nolan at romaine.tssi.com  Tue Sep  1 12:44:33 2009
From: nolan at romaine.tssi.com (Mike Nolan)
Date: Tue Sep  1 12:44:37 2009
Subject: [NU Sports] Wanna bet?
In-Reply-To: <E7219AB80B8E354C9A22B0D2CB1EF5AE06485D90@nasa-dtw-ex004.nasa.cpwr.corp>
	from "Beamsley, Jeff" at Sep 01, 2009 09:30:49 AM
Message-ID: <200909011744.n81HiXLE025720@romaine.tssi.com>

> They have already said that they have a full-time compliance officer who
> checks on all of their programs regularly.  

I think that's an NCAA requirement for Division 1 schools these days,
so Michigan saying they have one is unimpressive.  But the compliance
officer may deal mostly with paperwork for recruits and eligiblity
issues for athletes in the program.  

There's a lot of peer pressure at most schools for kids to put in extra
hours in the weight room, watching films, etc.  As long as the coaches
aren't mandating that, I think it complies with NCAA rules.  The
players who were brought in by Lloyd Carr but aren't high on RichRod's 
dance card are likely the ones doing most of the grumbling.
--
Mike Nolan

From sportsbiz at gmail.com  Tue Sep  1 12:49:59 2009
From: sportsbiz at gmail.com (Sportsbiz)
Date: Tue Sep  1 12:50:06 2009
Subject: [NU Sports] Wanna bet?
In-Reply-To: <200909011744.n81HiXLE025720@romaine.tssi.com>
References: <E7219AB80B8E354C9A22B0D2CB1EF5AE06485D90@nasa-dtw-ex004.nasa.cpwr.corp>
	<200909011744.n81HiXLE025720@romaine.tssi.com>
Message-ID: <223fce250909011049h4fd3dd7bs7597847d25a798ba@mail.gmail.com>

A compliance officer is a requirement for a Division I school.
Grumbling by one or two players would not impress the NCAA or the Big Ten.
 It's when the number grows to 7 and their stories are remarkably
consistent, even among those that have transferred out that the NCAA and the
Big Ten get interested.  That's what has happened and that's why it may not
be something that can be brushed off with the idea that it's just fallout
from a new coach, even if that is all that it really is.  Sometimes,
grumbling turns into NCAA violations.

On Tue, Sep 1, 2009 at 1:44 PM, Mike Nolan <nolan@romaine.tssi.com> wrote:

> > They have already said that they have a full-time compliance officer who
> > checks on all of their programs regularly.
>
> I think that's an NCAA requirement for Division 1 schools these days,
> so Michigan saying they have one is unimpressive.  But the compliance
> officer may deal mostly with paperwork for recruits and eligiblity
> issues for athletes in the program.
>
> There's a lot of peer pressure at most schools for kids to put in extra
> hours in the weight room, watching films, etc.  As long as the coaches
> aren't mandating that, I think it complies with NCAA rules.  The
> players who were brought in by Lloyd Carr but aren't high on RichRod's
> dance card are likely the ones doing most of the grumbling.
> --
> Mike Nolan
>
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From nolan at romaine.tssi.com  Tue Sep  1 14:02:45 2009
From: nolan at romaine.tssi.com (Mike Nolan)
Date: Tue Sep  1 14:02:48 2009
Subject: [NU Sports] Wanna bet?
In-Reply-To: <FEFE2EC568F5492E9B25C4F5DC50E6F7@DennisMachine> from "Dennis W.
	Brandt" at Sep 01, 2009 08:49:20 AM
Message-ID: <200909011902.n81J2jiT026194@romaine.tssi.com>

> Anyone care to wager as to which coach made the worst career move in college football?  Barnett or Rodriguez?  It sure went downhill for both of them after they left their comfy positions.

At the moment, my money's on Barnett, RichRod is still coaching.

At times it occurs to me we may have dodged a bullet when Colorado hired 
Barnett away from us.
--
Mike Nolan

From NEONRye at aol.com  Wed Sep  2 12:50:48 2009
From: NEONRye at aol.com (NEONRye@aol.com)
Date: Wed Sep  2 12:51:08 2009
Subject: [NU Sports] Big Ten Bowl Game at YANKEE STADIUM? 'CATS at YANKEE
	STADIUM?
Message-ID: <d29.4d127e04.37d00a78@aol.com>

Ladies and Gents, there is so much in this article I just found online, I  
don't know where to begin.....
_http://www.post-gazette.com/pg/09245/994887-143.stm?cmpid=psu.xml_ 
(http://www.post-gazette.com/pg/09245/994887-143.stm?cmpid=psu.xml) 
 
1) BT Officials are contemplating bowl game at Yankee Stadium, possibly vs. 
 Big East.
 
2) Yankee Officials & Jim Phillips are contemplating Northwestern game  at 
Yankee Stadium.  George Steinbrenner "wants it to happen".  Article  notes 
connections between NU & Bronx Bombers, including "Big Stein's" stint  as 
Asst. FB Coach and Joe Girardi as alum.
 
3) Other potential BT bowl link changes are also discussed.
 
In shock in NY (actually in ecstasy, if true),
 
Paul Levinson
From nolan at romaine.tssi.com  Wed Sep  2 13:24:02 2009
From: nolan at romaine.tssi.com (Mike Nolan)
Date: Wed Sep  2 13:24:08 2009
Subject: [NU Sports] Big Ten Bowl Game at YANKEE STADIUM? 'CATS at YANKEE
In-Reply-To: <d29.4d127e04.37d00a78@aol.com> from "NEONRye@aol.com" at Sep 02,
	2009 01:50:48 PM
Message-ID: <200909021824.n82IO2PX031031@romaine.tssi.com>

> 1) BT Officials are contemplating bowl game at Yankee Stadium, possibly vs. 
>  Big East.

It takes a lot to get a new bowl game certified these days.   You have
to have a TV contract and a sponsor.  The number of bowl games may actually
go down in 2010 or 2011 because of financial problems at the sponsoring 
companies.  
  
> 2) Yankee Officials & Jim Phillips are contemplating Northwestern game  at 
> Yankee Stadium.  George Steinbrenner "wants it to happen".  Article  notes 
> connections between NU & Bronx Bombers, including "Big Stein's" stint  as 
> Asst. FB Coach and Joe Girardi as alum.

How well will a football field shoehorn into the new stadium?  Wrigley
Field was always a bit of a tight fit.  
--
Mike Nolan

From tbng at comcast.net  Wed Sep  2 13:34:41 2009
From: tbng at comcast.net (Dennis W. Brandt)
Date: Wed Sep  2 13:34:49 2009
Subject: [NU Sports] Big Ten Bowl Game at YANKEE STADIUM? 'CATS at YANKEE
References: <200909021824.n82IO2PX031031@romaine.tssi.com>
Message-ID: <60427ED88BFC4E6AB67BF0D14F56762F@DennisMachine>

May all plans to play an NU home game in Yankee Stadium go up in flames.  A) 
I have no admiration for Yankee Stadium, old or new; B) Don't tear up 
baseball fields playing football on them; C) We're NorthWESTern, not 
NorthEASTern.  Let them play there or maybe Rutgers-Connecticut. 

From e-west at northwestern.edu  Wed Sep  2 13:45:12 2009
From: e-west at northwestern.edu (Eric West)
Date: Wed Sep  2 13:45:41 2009
Subject: [NU Sports] Big Ten Bowl Game at YANKEE STADIUM? 'CATS at YANKEE
In-Reply-To: <200909021824.n82IO2PX031031@romaine.tssi.com>
References: <200909021824.n82IO2PX031031@romaine.tssi.com>
Message-ID: <4A9EBD38.108@northwestern.edu>

Yes, it takes so much that we *only* have 34 bowl games. :) Seriously, 
though, people have been predicting a decrease in the number of bowls 
for decades. I'll believe it when it actually happens. Corporations 
aside, we now are dealing with wealthy conferences who are used to 
sending all their bowl-eligible teams somewhere. A way will be found.

Not that I'm thrilled with the idea of this bowl -- an open-air northern 
bowl in winter? no thanks -- but if the EagleBank and St. Petersburg 
Bowls can get certified, so can this one.


Eric West
e-west@northwestern.edu


Mike Nolan wrote:
> It takes a lot to get a new bowl game certified these days.   You have
> to have a TV contract and a sponsor.  The number of bowl games may actually
> go down in 2010 or 2011 because of financial problems at the sponsoring 
> companies.
>   

From NEONRye at aol.com  Wed Sep  2 13:45:25 2009
From: NEONRye at aol.com (NEONRye@aol.com)
Date: Wed Sep  2 13:45:57 2009
Subject: [NU Sports] Big Ten Bowl Game at YANKEE STADIUM? 'CATS at YANKEE
Message-ID: <c04.687c7dcb.37d01745@aol.com>

Mike:
 
I just went to the "new" Yankee Stadium for the first time last Thursday  
(One of few games they have lost at home since All-Star Break!).  It is  
certainly large enough for gridiron.  The dimensions in the outfield are  the 
same as the "old" (renovated) Yankee Stadium across E. 161st Street, and  
there were FB games played there periodically, although there is less room from  
home plate to the screen.  It will be tight, but not dangerous, as far as I 
 can tell.   Certainly, the Stadium has more room for pigskin play than  
Wrigley does.  
 
I think Northwestern playing at the "House That Jeter Built" (a/k/a "The  
House That George Built") would be an incredible boost for the visibility of 
the  University in a number of areas--recruiting (of students and student 
athletes),  highlighting the University's contributions to Broadway (You could 
have somebody  like Craig Bierko  sing the National Anthem.) and NYC in 
general (Maybe  Barry Cofield of the Giants could flip the coin.), etc.--right 
in the bailiwick  of the Ivy League.  Sort of showing how we combine the 
best in academics  with a high profile in athletics, done the right way (Hear 
that Rich  Rod????)--with Fitz and Girardi at the core--both exemplary 
representatives of  successful student athletes & coaches who have matriculated in 
Evanston and  who demonstrate the value of an NU education.   If the game 
is, in  fact, against Army or another notable East Coast team (such as 
Rutgers or 'Cuse  or maybe Duke [since we have played them so often]), that would 
serve to  increase the interest in this neck of the woods.  
 
By the way, the "new" Stadium is very nice, indeed--but I miss the "old"  
one nonetheless.  The field is pretty, but is not the hallowed ground where  
the Bambino, the Iron Horse, Joltin' Joe, the Mick, Yogi, Whitey,  Thurman, 
Reggie, Donnie Baseball, etc., created their legends.  I once  went to a U-2 
Concert there, and had seats in center field, and was as excited  about 
sitting where my hero, Mr. Mantle, had played, as I was in seeing Bono and  
Company.
 
One last thought, on an NU note:  Read an article online the other day  
predicting J.A. Happ will cop Rookie of the Year honors in the National  
League.  He is having a wonderful year.  Not bad for a product of our  baseball 
team, which our colleague John DeGroat has advocated should be  scrapped, for 
lack of success.:-)
 
Paul Levinson
From NEONRye at aol.com  Wed Sep  2 13:54:24 2009
From: NEONRye at aol.com (NEONRye@aol.com)
Date: Wed Sep  2 13:54:53 2009
Subject: [NU Sports] Big Ten Bowl Game at YANKEE STADIUM? 'CATS at YANKEE
Message-ID: <c7e.37d2f018.37d01960@aol.com>

May all plans to play an NU home game in Yankee Stadium go up in  flames.  
A) 
I have no admiration for Yankee Stadium, old or new; B)  Don't tear up 
baseball fields playing football on them; C) We're  NorthWESTern, not 
NorthEASTern.  Let them play there or maybe  Rutgers-Connecticut. 
 
 
Considering that our retiring President, Mr. Bienen, is originally from  
this area, and that our incoming President, Mr. Shapiro, is currently from up  
the road a bit (Massachusetts), they might well disagree with your  
statement.
 
I don't know why people on this list are so negative about Jim Phillips  
trying to boost the program's visibility by playing in famous baseball 
stadiums  (stadia?), unless we lose true "home" games (at Ryan) as a consequence.  
If  we can make NU football a recognized "brand" by doing this, and provided 
that  the Administration and the Athletic Dept. continue to adhere to the 
principles  that have made our program a standard-bearer for doing things the 
right way, how  can that be a 'bad" thing?  
 
Paul Levinson
From jonathanwhodges at gmail.com  Wed Sep  2 14:04:27 2009
From: jonathanwhodges at gmail.com (Jonathan Hodges)
Date: Wed Sep  2 14:10:26 2009
Subject: [NU Sports] Big Ten Bowl Game at YANKEE STADIUM? 'CATS at YANKEE
In-Reply-To: <c7e.37d2f018.37d01960@aol.com>
References: <c7e.37d2f018.37d01960@aol.com>
Message-ID: <fcb3ee270909021204t66483374ub6b58df98f7470a2@mail.gmail.com>

The biggest objection I have to moving an NU home game to a neutral site,
especially one far away, has to do with removing potential revenue from NU.
Phillips knows that the 'Cats need 7 home games a year, and at the very
least 6 + one neutral site game and will hopefully be protecting the most
valuable revenue stream in NU athletics - football gate receipts.  While a
game at Yankee Stadium would be nice in drawing interest, NU must be able to
ensure that it retains some sort of advantage and the game doesn't turn into
a pure sellout (like NU moving a home game vs. OSU to Cleveland Stadium in
'91 or Indiana moving a home game in 2010 to Washington D.C. vs. PSU).

I agree that a bowl game in late December in New York would not be kind,
remember that the time period in question is in the heart of the NFL season,
and 2 NY teams manage to make do in an outdoor stadium.  Yes, it wouldn't be
typical bowl weather, but maybe it will help the Big Ten's cause by getting
a bowl game played in familiar elements to this conference rather than
traveling to the other guys' backyard every year (think about the annual
losses to USC in southern cal).

In any case, Phillips talking up these events at Wrigley and Yankee Stadium
are helping generate some talk about NU, and that's not a bad thing.  I
would like to see him stick to following through on one of these potential
games and focusing the rest of the effort on filling up Ryan Field any given
Saturday.

Jonathan

On Wed, Sep 2, 2009 at 1:54 PM, <NEONRye@aol.com> wrote:

> May all plans to play an NU home game in Yankee Stadium go up in  flames.
> A)
> I have no admiration for Yankee Stadium, old or new; B)  Don't tear up
> baseball fields playing football on them; C) We're  NorthWESTern, not
> NorthEASTern.  Let them play there or maybe  Rutgers-Connecticut.
>
>
> Considering that our retiring President, Mr. Bienen, is originally from
> this area, and that our incoming President, Mr. Shapiro, is currently from
> up
> the road a bit (Massachusetts), they might well disagree with your
> statement.
>
> I don't know why people on this list are so negative about Jim Phillips
> trying to boost the program's visibility by playing in famous baseball
> stadiums  (stadia?), unless we lose true "home" games (at Ryan) as a
> consequence.
> If  we can make NU football a recognized "brand" by doing this, and
> provided
> that  the Administration and the Athletic Dept. continue to adhere to the
> principles  that have made our program a standard-bearer for doing things
> the
> right way, how  can that be a 'bad" thing?
>
> Paul Levinson
> _______________________________________________
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> nwu-sports@tssi.com
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>
From nolan at romaine.tssi.com  Wed Sep  2 14:11:57 2009
From: nolan at romaine.tssi.com (Mike Nolan)
Date: Wed Sep  2 14:12:01 2009
Subject: [NU Sports] Big Ten Bowl Game at YANKEE STADIUM? 'CATS at YANKEE
In-Reply-To: <c04.687c7dcb.37d01745@aol.com> from "NEONRye@aol.com" at Sep 02,
	2009 02:45:25 PM
Message-ID: <200909021911.n82JBvrw031370@romaine.tssi.com>

> By the way, the "new" Stadium is very nice, indeed--but I miss the "old"  
> one nonetheless.  The field is pretty, but is not the hallowed ground where  
> the Bambino, the Iron Horse, Joltin' Joe, the Mick, Yogi, Whitey,  Thurman, 
> Reggie, Donnie Baseball, etc., created their legends.  I once  went to a U-2 
> Concert there, and had seats in center field, and was as excited  about 
> sitting where my hero, Mr. Mantle, had played, as I was in seeing Bono and  
> Company.

The 'real' Yankee Stadium disappeared in the last renovation.

I'm not quite old enough to actually remember the Gotham Bowl, which lasted 
two years.  The 1961 game, between Baylor and Utah State, was at the 
Polo Grounds (sigh), the 1962 game, between Nebraska and Miami (FL), was 
at Yankee Stadium.

As to the issue of their being too many bowl games, it's close, but I
actually enjoy some of the lesser bowl games over the mid-majors, in part
because for the most part the schools are delighted to be there rather than 
grumbling that they should be in a BCS bowl.  (I'm still hoping for a 
southern school, or better yet, Hawaii, to have to play in the Humanitarian
bowl in Boise Idaho.)

Two of the bowl games are on shakey ground with the NCAA at the moment, 
with the local convention and visitors board now being their sponsors.  
I think the Seattle Bowl and the Silicon Valley Bowl both died a couple 
of years ago, and the Pilgrim's Pride Bowl (not for Division I teams) died 
last year after their title sponsor filed for bankruptcy.  

The Aloha Bowl was discontinued and replaced with the Hawaii Bowl, I think,
but I think it is run by a separate organization.

And even though they haven't been sponsoring the bowl game in years, I think
Poulan still gets some marketing 'oomph' from the old Weedeater Bowl.  
 --
Mike Nolan 

From johnadeg at comcast.net  Wed Sep  2 14:17:37 2009
From: johnadeg at comcast.net (johnadeg@comcast.net)
Date: Wed Sep  2 14:17:55 2009
Subject: [NU Sports] Big Ten Bowl Game at YANKEE STADIUM? 'CATS at YANKEE
In-Reply-To: <c04.687c7dcb.37d01745@aol.com>
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When was the last time NU won the Big Ten baseball championship?  Has NU ever made it to Omaha?  There is a baseball website (Sporting News?) that lists all the  players from NU that made it to the majors it is not a very long list and only a few had any kind of a long term career.  Could NU be more successful? sure if the school was willing to pay the money to upgrade the program, i.e. better coaches and more scholarships.

I was watching the BTN program on NU football at Camp Kenosha and heard one of the coaches getting on a player telling him "You've got a $42,000 scholarship so hustle"  A $42K ride to NU should be one hell of an incentive to play baseball (or any other sport) for NU) so why isn't the baseball program more successful? 

John DeGroat
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Sent: Wed, 2 Sep 2009 18:45:25 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: Re: [NU Sports] Big Ten Bowl Game at YANKEE STADIUM? 'CATS at YANKEE

Mike:
 
I just went to the "new" Yankee Stadium for the first time last Thursday  
(One of few games they have lost at home since All-Star Break!).  It is  
certainly large enough for gridiron.  The dimensions in the outfield are  the 
same as the "old" (renovated) Yankee Stadium across E. 161st Street, and  
there were FB games played there periodically, although there is less room from  
home plate to the screen.  It will be tight, but not dangerous, as far as I 
 can tell.   Certainly, the Stadium has more room for pigskin play than  
Wrigley does.  
 
I think Northwestern playing at the "House That Jeter Built" (a/k/a "The  
House That George Built") would be an incredible boost for the visibility of 
the  University in a number of areas--recruiting (of students and student 
athletes),  highlighting the University's contributions to Broadway (You could 
have somebody  like Craig Bierko  sing the National Anthem.) and NYC in 
general (Maybe  Barry Cofield of the Giants could flip the coin.), etc.--right 
in the bailiwick  of the Ivy League.  Sort of showing how we combine the 
best in academics  with a high profile in athletics, done the right way (Hear 
that Rich  Rod????)--with Fitz and Girardi at the core--both exemplary 
representatives of  successful student athletes & coaches who have matriculated in 
Evanston and  who demonstrate the value of an NU education.   If the game 
is, in  fact, against Army or another notable East Coast team (such as 
Rutgers or 'Cuse  or maybe Duke [since we have played them so often]), that would 
serve to  increase the interest in this neck of the woods.  
 
By the way, the "new" Stadium is very nice, indeed--but I miss the "old"  
one nonetheless.  The field is pretty, but is not the hallowed ground where  
the Bambino, the Iron Horse, Joltin' Joe, the Mick, Yogi, Whitey,  Thurman, 
Reggie, Donnie Baseball, etc., created their legends.  I once  went to a U-2 
Concert there, and had seats in center field, and was as excited  about 
sitting where my hero, Mr. Mantle, had played, as I was in seeing Bono and  
Company.
 
One last thought, on an NU note:  Read an article online the other day  
predicting J.A. Happ will cop Rookie of the Year honors in the National  
League.  He is having a wonderful year.  Not bad for a product of our  baseball 
team, which our colleague John DeGroat has advocated should be  scrapped, for 
lack of success.:-)
 
Paul Levinson
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From tbng at comcast.net  Wed Sep  2 14:38:11 2009
From: tbng at comcast.net (Dennis W. Brandt)
Date: Wed Sep  2 14:38:17 2009
Subject: [NU Sports] Big Ten Bowl Game at YANKEE STADIUM? 'CATS at YANKEE
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<I don't know why people on this list are so negative about Jim Phillips trying to boost the program's visibility by playing in famous baseball stadiums


You want visibility?  Win football games.  Lots of them.  And go to big bowls and win them.
From tbng at comcast.net  Wed Sep  2 14:39:43 2009
From: tbng at comcast.net (Dennis W. Brandt)
Date: Wed Sep  2 14:39:59 2009
Subject: [NU Sports] Big Ten Bowl Game at YANKEE STADIUM? 'CATS at YANKEE
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> I was watching the BTN program on NU football at Camp Kenosha and heard 
> one of the coaches getting on a player telling him "You've got a $42,000 
> scholarship so hustle"

You sure Fitz didn't say $52,000? 

From jonathanwhodges at gmail.com  Wed Sep  2 14:42:21 2009
From: jonathanwhodges at gmail.com (Jonathan Hodges)
Date: Wed Sep  2 14:42:53 2009
Subject: [NU Sports] Big Ten Bowl Game at YANKEE STADIUM? 'CATS at YANKEE
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I'm pretty sure Fitz did say $52k, which is the approximate annual tuition +
room & board rate nowadays.  The BTN talking heads made a comment about that
as well.

Jonathan

On Wed, Sep 2, 2009 at 2:39 PM, Dennis W. Brandt <tbng@comcast.net> wrote:

> I was watching the BTN program on NU football at Camp Kenosha and heard one
>> of the coaches getting on a player telling him "You've got a $42,000
>> scholarship so hustle"
>>
>
> You sure Fitz didn't say $52,000?
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From tkmaycock at yahoo.com  Wed Sep  2 14:46:42 2009
From: tkmaycock at yahoo.com (Tom Maycock)
Date: Wed Sep  2 14:46:48 2009
Subject: [NU Sports] Big Ten Bowl Game at YANKEE STADIUM? 'CATS at YANKEE
In-Reply-To: <E7A7DB6CDFA34FFAB16DC7AB128B6411@DennisMachine>
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> You sure Fitz didn't say $52,000? 

That's the number I recall hearing. It was pretty amusing either way. 

A game in Yankee Stadium is fine with me as long as it is NOT replacing an NU home game. 

If NU can get Army , Syracuse, or similar to switch a home game there, I say go for it. 

Tom

From johnadeg at comcast.net  Wed Sep  2 14:50:54 2009
From: johnadeg at comcast.net (johnadeg@comcast.net)
Date: Wed Sep  2 14:51:10 2009
Subject: [NU Sports] Big Ten Bowl Game at YANKEE STADIUM? 'CATS at YANKEE
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I don't know either why anyone would be down on Phillips he has been pretty innovative so far,i.e. giving free tickets to eighth graders with A-B averages and I found the new football media guide to be terrific, lot of good stuff in it. The guy knows how to market.

John DeGroat
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Sent: Wed, 2 Sep 2009 18:54:24 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: Re: [NU Sports] Big Ten Bowl Game at YANKEE STADIUM? 'CATS at YANKEE

May all plans to play an NU home game in Yankee Stadium go up in  flames.  
A) 
I have no admiration for Yankee Stadium, old or new; B)  Don't tear up 
baseball fields playing football on them; C) We're  NorthWESTern, not 
NorthEASTern.  Let them play there or maybe  Rutgers-Connecticut. 
 
 
Considering that our retiring President, Mr. Bienen, is originally from  
this area, and that our incoming President, Mr. Shapiro, is currently from up  
the road a bit (Massachusetts), they might well disagree with your  
statement.
 
I don't know why people on this list are so negative about Jim Phillips  
trying to boost the program's visibility by playing in famous baseball 
stadiums  (stadia?), unless we lose true "home" games (at Ryan) as a consequence.  
If  we can make NU football a recognized "brand" by doing this, and provided 
that  the Administration and the Athletic Dept. continue to adhere to the 
principles  that have made our program a standard-bearer for doing things the 
right way, how  can that be a 'bad" thing?  
 
Paul Levinson
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From e-west at northwestern.edu  Wed Sep  2 14:51:02 2009
From: e-west at northwestern.edu (Eric West)
Date: Wed Sep  2 14:51:16 2009
Subject: [NU Sports] Big Ten Bowl Game at YANKEE STADIUM? 'CATS at YANKEE
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Jonathan Hodges wrote:
> I agree that a bowl game in late December in New York would not be kind,
> remember that the time period in question is in the heart of the NFL season,
> and 2 NY teams manage to make do in an outdoor stadium.

I was mainly talking about travel issues. Presumably, most of the 
Giants' and Jets' fans do not fly in each week to see their games. I 
regret that I haven't traveled to an NU bowl since the '97 Citrus and 
I'd like to see another one soon, but I wouldn't break the streak just 
to deal with LaGuardia or Newark in a holiday blizzard.

I wouldn't trade a home game for Yankee Stadium either; Soldier Field 
was inconvenient enough, and I'm not overly convinced of Wrigley as it 
is. If our AD wants it so bad, it should be an away game against 
whatever eastern school might be interested.


Eric West
e-west@northwestern.edu

From johnadeg at comcast.net  Wed Sep  2 15:00:42 2009
From: johnadeg at comcast.net (johnadeg@comcast.net)
Date: Wed Sep  2 15:00:57 2009
Subject: [NU Sports] Big Ten Bowl Game at YANKEE STADIUM? 'CATS at YANKEE
In-Reply-To: <E7A7DB6CDFA34FFAB16DC7AB128B6411@DennisMachine>
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If it was/is $52K, it makes my point even more.  That kind of ride should have players demanding to get into NU (unless they are VT or WV types).

Maybe the 52K number is one of the erasons that the rcruiting ha improved as much as it has.

John DeGroat
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Cc: ssacks71@optonline.net, nwu-sports@romaine.tssi.com, nolan@romaine.tssi.com
Sent: Wed, 2 Sep 2009 19:39:43 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: Re: [NU Sports] Big Ten Bowl Game at YANKEE STADIUM? 'CATS at YANKEE

> I was watching the BTN program on NU football at Camp Kenosha and heard 
> one of the coaches getting on a player telling him "You've got a $42,000 
> scholarship so hustle"

You sure Fitz didn't say $52,000? 


From Alan.Abrahamson at nbcsports.com  Wed Sep  2 15:06:29 2009
From: Alan.Abrahamson at nbcsports.com (Abrahamson, Alan (NBC Universal))
Date: Wed Sep  2 15:06:42 2009
Subject: [NU Sports] Yankee Stadium
Message-ID: <33C4F11DF8639640A51C79CB484166FF0AC70A9C@RKFMLVEM02.e2k.ad.ge.com>

My two cents:

 

If there's gonna be a Big Ten game there, and Northwestern has the
chance to be one of the teams, and if I were the athletic director, I
would jump on that opportunity immediately.

 

That is a publicity gold mine in the media capital of the world. 

 

Switching gears: I am totally upbeat about our chances this year.
Totally upbeat. 

 

Go Wildcats!

 

From jonathanwhodges at gmail.com  Wed Sep  2 15:16:50 2009
From: jonathanwhodges at gmail.com (Jonathan Hodges)
Date: Wed Sep  2 15:17:19 2009
Subject: [NU Sports] Big Ten Bowl Game at YANKEE STADIUM? 'CATS at YANKEE
In-Reply-To: <1862565270.6796191251921642311.JavaMail.root@sz0080a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net>
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The problem is that for the vast majority of Div. I-A/FBS football players,
the cost of an education doesn't mean much (instead, they are concerned
about winning, playing time, and/or a pipeline to the NFL).  Thankfully, NU
sifts through the players and picks out those that DO value an education and
appreciate the $200k+ that they get from a scholarship at Northwestern.
Fitz is really helping the recruiting, IMHO, and we'll see more and more
guys choosing NU to win and get a great education.

Jonathan

On Wed, Sep 2, 2009 at 3:00 PM, <johnadeg@comcast.net> wrote:

> If it was/is $52K, it makes my point even more.  That kind of ride should
> have players demanding to get into NU (unless they are VT or WV types).
>
> Maybe the 52K number is one of the erasons that the rcruiting ha improved
> as much as it has.
>
> John DeGroat
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Dennis W. Brandt
> To: johnadeg@comcast.net, NEONRye@aol.com
> Cc: ssacks71@optonline.net, nwu-sports@romaine.tssi.com,
> nolan@romaine.tssi.com
> Sent: Wed, 2 Sep 2009 19:39:43 +0000 (UTC)
> Subject: Re: [NU Sports] Big Ten Bowl Game at YANKEE STADIUM? 'CATS at
> YANKEE
>
> > I was watching the BTN program on NU football at Camp Kenosha and heard
> > one of the coaches getting on a player telling him "You've got a $42,000
> > scholarship so hustle"
>
> You sure Fitz didn't say $52,000?
>
>
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From rstetson at capps-assoc.com  Wed Sep  2 15:27:57 2009
From: rstetson at capps-assoc.com (Roy Lamberton)
Date: Wed Sep  2 15:28:10 2009
Subject: [NU Sports] Big Ten Bowl Game at YANKEE STADIUM? 'CATS at YANKEE
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Few baseball players get a full ride - Div I teams have 12-13 full scholarships to award across 25+ players.

You can get a full ride at some schools if they think you will be drafted after 2 years - being a lefty throwing 85+ doesn't hurt.

Football and Basketball are the only 2 full schollie sports. The rest are partials which is why NU has trouble getting top talent.

There is also the amateur draft of 18 year olds in Baseball that dilutes the pool, and then there is grades, something baseball players seem to have trouble maintaining at the end of the school year in HS.

rsl

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Subject: Re: [NU Sports] Big Ten Bowl Game at YANKEE STADIUM? 'CATS at YANKEE

When was the last time NU won the Big Ten baseball championship?  Has NU ever made it to Omaha?  There is a baseball website (Sporting News?) that lists all the  players from NU that made it to the majors it is not a very long list and only a few had any kind of a long term career.  Could NU be more successful? sure if the school was willing to pay the money to upgrade the program, i.e. better coaches and more scholarships.

I was watching the BTN program on NU football at Camp Kenosha and heard one of the coaches getting on a player telling him "You've got a $42,000 scholarship so hustle"  A $42K ride to NU should be one hell of an incentive to play baseball (or any other sport) for NU) so why isn't the baseball program more successful? 

John DeGroat
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Sent: Wed, 2 Sep 2009 18:45:25 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: Re: [NU Sports] Big Ten Bowl Game at YANKEE STADIUM? 'CATS at YANKEE

Mike:
 
I just went to the "new" Yankee Stadium for the first time last Thursday  
(One of few games they have lost at home since All-Star Break!).  It is  
certainly large enough for gridiron.  The dimensions in the outfield are  the 
same as the "old" (renovated) Yankee Stadium across E. 161st Street, and  
there were FB games played there periodically, although there is less room from  
home plate to the screen.  It will be tight, but not dangerous, as far as I 
 can tell.   Certainly, the Stadium has more room for pigskin play than  
Wrigley does.  
 
I think Northwestern playing at the "House That Jeter Built" (a/k/a "The  
House That George Built") would be an incredible boost for the visibility of 
the  University in a number of areas--recruiting (of students and student 
athletes),  highlighting the University's contributions to Broadway (You could 
have somebody  like Craig Bierko  sing the National Anthem.) and NYC in 
general (Maybe  Barry Cofield of the Giants could flip the coin.), etc.--right 
in the bailiwick  of the Ivy League.  Sort of showing how we combine the 
best in academics  with a high profile in athletics, done the right way (Hear 
that Rich  Rod????)--with Fitz and Girardi at the core--both exemplary 
representatives of  successful student athletes & coaches who have matriculated in 
Evanston and  who demonstrate the value of an NU education.   If the game 
is, in  fact, against Army or another notable East Coast team (such as 
Rutgers or 'Cuse  or maybe Duke [since we have played them so often]), that would 
serve to  increase the interest in this neck of the woods.  
 
By the way, the "new" Stadium is very nice, indeed--but I miss the "old"  
one nonetheless.  The field is pretty, but is not the hallowed ground where  
the Bambino, the Iron Horse, Joltin' Joe, the Mick, Yogi, Whitey,  Thurman, 
Reggie, Donnie Baseball, etc., created their legends.  I once  went to a U-2 
Concert there, and had seats in center field, and was as excited  about 
sitting where my hero, Mr. Mantle, had played, as I was in seeing Bono and  
Company.
 
One last thought, on an NU note:  Read an article online the other day  
predicting J.A. Happ will cop Rookie of the Year honors in the National  
League.  He is having a wonderful year.  Not bad for a product of our  baseball 
team, which our colleague John DeGroat has advocated should be  scrapped, for 
lack of success.:-)
 
Paul Levinson
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From NEONRye at aol.com  Wed Sep  2 15:30:05 2009
From: NEONRye at aol.com (NEONRye@aol.com)
Date: Wed Sep  2 15:30:33 2009
Subject: [NU Sports] Big Ten Bowl Game at YANKEE STADIUM? 'CATS at YANKEE
Message-ID: <d15.515540ed.37d02fcd@aol.com>

One thing about you, John.  You can't keep a good man down.:-)  I  knew 
you'd have an immediate, and cogent, rejoinder.
 
Paul
From rstetson at capps-assoc.com  Wed Sep  2 15:31:44 2009
From: rstetson at capps-assoc.com (Roy Lamberton)
Date: Wed Sep  2 15:31:43 2009
Subject: [NU Sports] Big Ten Bowl Game at YANKEE STADIUM? 'CATS at YANKEE
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The NY Giants played the "best game ever" in the old Yankee Stadium in
December.

A football field fits in there just fine - with the sideline parallel to the
3rd base line. 

I'll take a bowl there - NU would get at least :20 a night during the week
prior on each of the local TV outlets. <g> :20 more than we get there now,
and in Chicago most nights. 

(does Fitz have a regular TV or Radio show yet?)

rsl

++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
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Computer Applications & Support Associates
-------------------- Also ----------------------
Commissioner Delaware American Legion Baseball
Retired Senior Chief Cryptologic Technician [R]
Northwestern University - Speech 1974 - 
Chi Phi: Pi 1974, KD 1968
Publisher Emeritus: Purple Reign (Fox Sports)
==========  Go Cats -? Beat 'em All  ===========
So...
     How's that "hope" and "Change"
     Working for ya?

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================================================


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Subject: Re: [NU Sports] Big Ten Bowl Game at YANKEE STADIUM? 'CATS at
YANKEE

May all plans to play an NU home game in Yankee Stadium go up in  flames.  
A) 
I have no admiration for Yankee Stadium, old or new; B)  Don't tear up 
baseball fields playing football on them; C) We're  NorthWESTern, not 
NorthEASTern.  Let them play there or maybe  Rutgers-Connecticut. 
 
 
Considering that our retiring President, Mr. Bienen, is originally from  
this area, and that our incoming President, Mr. Shapiro, is currently from
up  
the road a bit (Massachusetts), they might well disagree with your  
statement.
 
I don't know why people on this list are so negative about Jim Phillips  
trying to boost the program's visibility by playing in famous baseball 
stadiums  (stadia?), unless we lose true "home" games (at Ryan) as a
consequence.  
If  we can make NU football a recognized "brand" by doing this, and provided

that  the Administration and the Athletic Dept. continue to adhere to the 
principles  that have made our program a standard-bearer for doing things
the 
right way, how  can that be a 'bad" thing?  
 
Paul Levinson
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From rstetson at capps-assoc.com  Wed Sep  2 15:36:49 2009
From: rstetson at capps-assoc.com (Roy Lamberton)
Date: Wed Sep  2 15:36:49 2009
Subject: [NU Sports] Chat during game....
Message-ID: <002e01ca2c0d$191bcdd0$4b536970$@com>

Will be back with your's truly - publisher emeritus of Purple Reign - back
at the controls of the new and improved Java Chat room.

You can reach it using the front page of Purple Reign -> Forums -> Chat
Or this URL
http://chat.scout.com/rooms/default.asp?s=179&room=northwestern

Pick your handle and c'mon in. I'll be there about time for the WGN Pregame,
altho I may not respond until just before game time.

Spread the word. The Cat Chat is Back!

rsl

++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
Roy S. Lamberton - Senior Associate & Unix Guru.
Computer Applications & Support Associates
-------------------- Also ----------------------
Commissioner Delaware American Legion Baseball
Retired Senior Chief Cryptologic Technician [R]
Northwestern University - Speech 1974 - 
Chi Phi: Pi 1974, KD 1968
Publisher Emeritus: Purple Reign (Fox Sports)
==========  Go Cats -? Beat 'em All  ===========
So...
     How's that "hope" and "Change"
     Working for ya?

Don't re-elect nobody, not even yo mama!
================================================




From neonrye at aol.com  Wed Sep  2 17:50:40 2009
From: neonrye at aol.com (neonrye@aol.com)
Date: Wed Sep  2 17:50:56 2009
Subject: [NU Sports] Motor City Bowl
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It has now been renamed The Little Caesar's Bowl, thereby commemorating my number one indulgence back in '70 and '71 as a new member of the NU community:

http://www.google.com/hostednews/ap/article/ALeqM5gFmlBJuYqhniPh_7WMIkDh7PNZhgD9AFDRB80


Chrysler and GM are totally out as sponsors.? Maybe they should have renamed it "The Clunkers Bowl".



Paul Levinson
From sportsbiz at gmail.com  Wed Sep  2 18:16:16 2009
From: sportsbiz at gmail.com (Sportsbiz)
Date: Wed Sep  2 18:17:26 2009
Subject: [NU Sports] Big Ten Bowl Game at YANKEE STADIUM? 'CATS at YANKEE
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As for the bowl game, the Big East has been working with Yankee officials to
get a bowl game certified for the new Yankee Stadium.  If that doesn't
happen, expect it to move to the new Giants Stadium.  The league wants a
bowl game in New York because they are trying to build up college football
in NYC and  think a bowl game in NYC will attract media attention.  I rather
doubt it if the Giants are still in the playoffs.  If not, then it probably
will attract some attention, especially if the Rangers aren't playing so
hot.

One of the new commissioner's goals is to change the mix and raise the
profile of the Big East's bowl games and he sees this as one possibility.
The Big Ten is seen as the best opponent both geographically and for media
attention.

As for NU playing a home game in Yankee Stadium, I don't know that it was
ever proposed that NU give up a home game.  Both 'cuse and Army are playing
home games there so I would think it would be a Syracuse home game not a NU
home game that we would be playing.  It would just mean a higher, much
higher, guarantee for NU to play the game, or perhaps, a split of the gate
instead of a guarantee.
Mark


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On Wed, Sep 2, 2009 at 4:31 PM, Roy Lamberton <rstetson@capps-assoc.com>wrote:

> The NY Giants played the "best game ever" in the old Yankee Stadium in
> December.
>
> A football field fits in there just fine - with the sideline parallel to
> the
> 3rd base line.
>
> I'll take a bowl there - NU would get at least :20 a night during the week
> prior on each of the local TV outlets. <g> :20 more than we get there now,
> and in Chicago most nights.
>
> (does Fitz have a regular TV or Radio show yet?)
>
> rsl
>
> ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
> Roy S. Lamberton - Senior Associate & Unix Guru.
> Computer Applications & Support Associates
> -------------------- Also ----------------------
> Commissioner Delaware American Legion Baseball
> Retired Senior Chief Cryptologic Technician [R]
> Northwestern University - Speech 1974 -
> Chi Phi: Pi 1974, KD 1968
> Publisher Emeritus: Purple Reign (Fox Sports)
> ==========  Go Cats -  Beat 'em All  ===========
> So...
>     How's that "hope" and "Change"
>     Working for ya?
>
> Don't re-elect nobody, not even yo mama!
> ================================================
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: nwu-sports-bounces@tssi.com [mailto:nwu-sports-bounces@tssi.com] On
> Behalf Of NEONRye@aol.com
> Sent: Wednesday, September 02, 2009 2:54 PM
> To: tbng@comcast.net; nwu-sports@tssi.com
> Subject: Re: [NU Sports] Big Ten Bowl Game at YANKEE STADIUM? 'CATS at
> YANKEE
>
> May all plans to play an NU home game in Yankee Stadium go up in  flames.
> A)
> I have no admiration for Yankee Stadium, old or new; B)  Don't tear up
> baseball fields playing football on them; C) We're  NorthWESTern, not
> NorthEASTern.  Let them play there or maybe  Rutgers-Connecticut.
>
>
> Considering that our retiring President, Mr. Bienen, is originally from
> this area, and that our incoming President, Mr. Shapiro, is currently from
> up
> the road a bit (Massachusetts), they might well disagree with your
> statement.
>
> I don't know why people on this list are so negative about Jim Phillips
> trying to boost the program's visibility by playing in famous baseball
> stadiums  (stadia?), unless we lose true "home" games (at Ryan) as a
> consequence.
> If  we can make NU football a recognized "brand" by doing this, and
> provided
>
> that  the Administration and the Athletic Dept. continue to adhere to the
> principles  that have made our program a standard-bearer for doing things
> the
> right way, how  can that be a 'bad" thing?
>
> Paul Levinson
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From jhcclark at aol.com  Wed Sep  2 19:17:20 2009
From: jhcclark at aol.com (jhcclark@aol.com)
Date: Wed Sep  2 19:17:48 2009
Subject: [NU Sports] How do you unsubcribe?
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From wildelk2 at aol.com  Wed Sep  2 21:31:02 2009
From: wildelk2 at aol.com (wildelk2@aol.com)
Date: Wed Sep  2 21:31:26 2009
Subject: [NU Sports] Big Ten Bowl Game at YANKEE STADIUM? 'CATS at YANKEE
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?? After reading the posts pro and con in regards to a home game at Yankee Stadium, my .02 is that as long as we keep 6 games in Evanston, if we schueduled the 7th home game?in Lower Gibbip , I'm fine with it. 

?? Facts are that a home game atmosphere can be created in the east, as many NU alums reside in the Eastern time zone.? As most of you know, I'm in the minority on our list (non NU alum) ?as I got hooked on NU in the Dark Ages as a Chicago resident, and have bled purple since my move to Pennsylvania years ago.? I would assume that ticket sales would be offered (first) to season ticket holders, alums, and financial supporters (Which I am one of).? 

?? Games at Wrigley, Yankee Stadium will increase revenues and exposure. As long as we keep 6 games in Evanston, including games vs. Mich, OSU, PSU, lets do it!

?? PS- I would not agree if we move high profile games vs. above-said opponents. This is "selling out"? No more "home" games vs. Ohio St. in Cleveland.



?? Doug DeCinces Dept:? As Coach Roy knows,? Doug DeCinces was an excellant third baseman for the O's who took over for...Brooks Robinson.? I was going to post some info for us east coast Cats pertaining to the 7 PM (EDT) game on 9/19/09 game?at Syracuse, but this news pales in comparison to the story about Yankee Stadium!? But here goes...

?? Ticket prices are stiff; ranging from $38-68 dollars.? Prices on Subhub are much more manageable, about 1/2 what is offered at face value.? Additionally,? SU's website exclaims that they are only 9700 tickets short of a sell -out for Coach Marrone's first game.? I would assume that if the Goph's beat 'em, and they get hammered by PSU, tickets will be cheap and plentiful.

?? However, if SU beats either Minnesota or PSU (not) , tickets could be expensive. For the record, I expect Minnesota to put aside their excitement of opening their own stadium and beat SU. Lord knows they have experience playing in domes.

? Early Towson prognostication:? Wildelk has good news. My son attends Robert Morris U. (freshman)?outside Pittsburgh, as he's majoring in Business, with an emphasis in Sports Mgmt.? RMU has an excellant program, and lots of opportunities with the Pirates and Penquins. (Internships, work, etc.)

? Anyway, Wild's wife miises her first child terribly, and has dictated that we will be in Pittsburgh with him (he started 8/20/09...early!) over the Labor day weekend, so how much of the "scrimmage" on Saturday I will see is debateable.? Get carries to someone,? get Persa in, no one hurt...NU 41 Towson 10.? I'm interested in how the defense looks, as that unit will determine how far we will go.



????????????? GO CATS!!!????????????? Eric


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To: NEONRye@aol.com; tbng@comcast.net; nwu-sports@tssi.com
Sent: Wed, Sep 2, 2009 4:31 pm
Subject: RE: [NU Sports] Big Ten Bowl Game at YANKEE STADIUM? 'CATS at YANKEE




The NY Giants played the "best game ever" in the old Yankee Stadium in
December.

A football field fits in there just fine - with the sideline parallel to the
3rd base line. 

I'll take a bowl there - NU would get at least :20 a night during the week
prior on each of the local TV outlets. <g> :20 more than we get there now,
and in Chicago most nights. 

(does Fitz have a regular TV or Radio show yet?)

rsl

++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
Roy S. Lamberton - Senior Associate & Unix Guru.
Computer Applications & Support Associates
-------------------- Also ----------------------
Commissioner Delaware American Legion Baseball
Retired Senior Chief Cryptologic Technician [R]
Northwestern University - Speech 1974 - 
Chi Phi: Pi 1974, KD 1968
Publisher Emeritus: Purple Reign (Fox Sports)
==========  Go Cats -? Beat 'em All  ===========
So...
     How's that "hope" and "Change"
     Working for ya?

Don't re-elect nobody, not even yo mama!
================================================


-----Original Message-----
From: nwu-sports-bounces@tssi.com [mailto:nwu-sports-bounces@tssi.com] On
Behalf Of NEONRye@aol.com
Sent: Wednesday, September 02, 2009 2:54 PM
To: tbng@comcast.net; nwu-sports@tssi.com
Subject: Re: [NU Sports] Big Ten Bowl Game at YANKEE STADIUM? 'CATS at
YANKEE

May all plans to play an NU home game in Yankee Stadium go up in  flames.  
A) 
I have no admiration for Yankee Stadium, old or new; B)  Don't tear up 
baseball fields playing football on them; C) We're  NorthWESTern, not 
NorthEASTern.  Let them play there or maybe  Rutgers-Connecticut. 
 
 
Considering that our retiring President, Mr. Bienen, is originally from  
this area, and that our incoming President, Mr. Shapiro, is currently from
up  
the road a bit (Massachusetts), they might well disagree with your  
statement.
 
I don't know why people on this list are so negative about Jim Phillips  
trying to boost the program's visibility by playing in famous baseball 
stadiums  (stadia?), unless we lose true "home" games (at Ryan) a
s a
consequence.  
If  we can make NU football a recognized "brand" by doing this, and provided

that  the Administration and the Athletic Dept. continue to adhere to the 
principles  that have made our program a standard-bearer for doing things
the 
right way, how  can that be a 'bad" thing?  
 
Paul Levinson
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nwu-sports@tssi.com
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From sjtruog at yahoo.com  Wed Sep  2 23:26:04 2009
From: sjtruog at yahoo.com (SjT (Stephen J. Truog))
Date: Wed Sep  2 23:26:24 2009
Subject: [NU Sports] NU football, bowl games, etc.
Message-ID: <267656.95595.qm@web52901.mail.re2.yahoo.com>

LOVE to come home and see hordes of FOOTBALL posts on this list! I'm getting PSYCHED!!!

As for the topic of the day, lots of things to say ...

* Bowl game in NYC in December: Love it. LOVE IT! Why the whining about a cold-weather bowl. We need MORE of those. This is REAL football weather and may be our best chance to get an SEC team out of its humid, cozy, sweaty home and in our weather for a game! Let's see if Gator gums can still flap in 10 below.

But seriously - NYC is a destination any time of year (certainly more than Boise, Nashville, Jacksonville or El Paso) and no matter what the weather, it's a fantastic idea -- big market, big bowl and weather. TV audiences LOVE the weather (see the NHL winter classic!).

* NU playing in Yankee Stadium: Not so wild about this idea, especially if it would cost us a home game. Like the idea of east coast exposure and developing rivalries out east for recruiting, but not at the expense of a home game. And besides, playing at the "House that 'Roids Built" isn't as big of a deal as Wrigley or Fenway ... and with the wind tunnel there our passes would soar into the stands. The Yankees and their new $tadium and team of bought mercs with needles still sticking out of their arms represent everything that sucks about baseball in the modern era. Why the push to move football games to baseball stadiums (see the NHL winter classic? Guess I had that coming :) ).

* Our new AD's marketing campaign: Can't fault a guy for trying and I love the energy ... but sometimes you can't just throw everything at a wall. LOVE the idea of giving tickets away to scholar students. We have a good team. We have exciting games (more than any stadium in the country over the past decade or so). We HAVE a good product. Do whatever it takes to get people into the stands and we'll start to build a base in the Chicagoland area. But don't move home games to NYC.

* Finally, on the realignment of bowls ... looks like the Alamo ditched us for the Pac 10. Good luck with that, San Antonio. We brought hordes of fans and big games/ratings. I doubt the Pac 10 will bring that. Still, while San Antonio was a wonderful destination, the stadium sort of sucked.

On the plus side, it appears Phoenix is poised to move up in the Big Ten pecking order for the insight bowl. They run a good bowl over in Tempe. We have perfect weather in December here (same golf and old people as Florida, minus the humidity), the Insight is a bowl on the rise and it should be a good matchup with the Big XII outside of their home turf.

Hopefully the league uses this annual shakeup to keep doing what we did right with bowls (big $$$ and destinations) while eliminating some of the bad (too many road matchups and uneven "Big Ten #6 vs. Pac 10 #3 or so" matchups).

Well, that's a lot to digest. So great to have college football BACK!
GO CATS!!!
-SjT

* * * * * * * * *
STEPHEN J. TRUOG
sjtruog@yahoo.com
GO CATS!!!


      

From sjtruog at yahoo.com  Wed Sep  2 23:28:18 2009
From: sjtruog at yahoo.com (SjT (Stephen J. Truog))
Date: Wed Sep  2 23:28:23 2009
Subject: [NU Sports] REMINDER: Picks due tomorrow!
Message-ID: <670158.25745.qm@web52905.mail.re2.yahoo.com>

YES! College football kicks off tomorrow night in what should be a fantastic game between the Broncos and Ducks on the Smurf Turf.

Remember that picks are due by kickoff ... fire up the slow-cooker chili, stock the fridge, put extra pillows by the couch, check the satellite reception and get ready for pigskin perfection on Saturday.

Aaaaaah, football.

GO CATS!!!
-SjT

* * * * * * * * *
STEPHEN J. TRUOG
sjtruog@yahoo.com
GO CATS!!!


      

From johnadeg at comcast.net  Thu Sep  3 00:16:12 2009
From: johnadeg at comcast.net (johnadeg@comcast.net)
Date: Thu Sep  3 00:16:37 2009
Subject: [NU Sports] Big Ten Bowl Game at YANKEE STADIUM? 'CATS at YANKEE
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Maybe I am biased, but the best players, especially pitchers, seem tocome out of college.  Schilling and Darling are good examples.
Bonderman is a good example of the non-college players.  He hasn't been able to learn any new pitches despite being tutored by Kenny Rogers. Today, pitchers have to be smart to win in my opinion.

John DeGroat
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Cc: ssacks71@optonline.net, nwu-sports@romaine.tssi.com, nolan@romaine.tssi.com
Sent: Wed, 2 Sep 2009 20:27:57 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: RE: [NU Sports] Big Ten Bowl Game at YANKEE STADIUM? 'CATS at YANKEE

Few baseball players get a full ride - Div I teams have 12-13 full scholarships to award across 25+ players.

You can get a full ride at some schools if they think you will be drafted after 2 years - being a lefty throwing 85+ doesn't hurt.

Football and Basketball are the only 2 full schollie sports. The rest are partials which is why NU has trouble getting top talent.

There is also the amateur draft of 18 year olds in Baseball that dilutes the pool, and then there is grades, something baseball players seem to have trouble maintaining at the end of the school year in HS.

rsl

++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
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Computer Applications & Support Associates
-------------------- Also ----------------------
Commissioner Delaware American Legion Baseball
Retired Senior Chief Cryptologic Technician [R]
Northwestern University - Speech 1974 - 
Chi Phi: Pi 1974, KD 1968
Publisher Emeritus: Purple Reign (Fox Sports)
==========  Go Cats -  Beat 'em All  ===========
So...
     How's that "hope" and "Change"
     Working for ya?

Don't re-elect nobody, not even yo mama!
================================================

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Sent: Wednesday, September 02, 2009 3:18 PM
To: NEONRye@aol.com
Cc: ssacks71@optonline.net; nwu-sports@romaine.tssi.com; nolan@romaine.tssi.com
Subject: Re: [NU Sports] Big Ten Bowl Game at YANKEE STADIUM? 'CATS at YANKEE

When was the last time NU won the Big Ten baseball championship?  Has NU ever made it to Omaha?  There is a baseball website (Sporting News?) that lists all the  players from NU that made it to the majors it is not a very long list and only a few had any kind of a long term career.  Could NU be more successful? sure if the school was willing to pay the money to upgrade the program, i.e. better coaches and more scholarships.

I was watching the BTN program on NU football at Camp Kenosha and heard one of the coaches getting on a player telling him "You've got a $42,000 scholarship so hustle"  A $42K ride to NU should be one hell of an incentive to play baseball (or any other sport) for NU) so why isn't the baseball program more successful? 

John DeGroat
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Sent: Wed, 2 Sep 2009 18:45:25 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: Re: [NU Sports] Big Ten Bowl Game at YANKEE STADIUM? 'CATS at YANKEE

Mike:
 
I just went to the "new" Yankee Stadium for the first time last Thursday  
(One of few games they have lost at home since All-Star Break!).  It is  
certainly large enough for gridiron.  The dimensions in the outfield are  the 
same as the "old" (renovated) Yankee Stadium across E. 161st Street, and  
there were FB games played there periodically, although there is less room from  
home plate to the screen.  It will be tight, but not dangerous, as far as I 
 can tell.   Certainly, the Stadium has more room for pigskin play than  
Wrigley does.  
 
I think Northwestern playing at the "House That Jeter Built" (a/k/a "The  
House That George Built") would be an incredible boost for the visibility of 
the  University in a number of areas--recruiting (of students and student 
athletes),  highlighting the University's contributions to Broadway (You could 
have somebody  like Craig Bierko  sing the National Anthem.) and NYC in 
general (Maybe  Barry Cofield of the Giants could flip the coin.), etc.--right 
in the bailiwick  of the Ivy League.  Sort of showing how we combine the 
best in academics  with a high profile in athletics, done the right way (Hear 
that Rich  Rod????)--with Fitz and Girardi at the core--both exemplary 
representatives of  successful student athletes & coaches who have matriculated in 
Evanston and  who demonstrate the value of an NU education.   If the game 
is, in  fact, against Army or another notable East Coast team (such as 
Rutgers or 'Cuse  or maybe Duke [since we have played them so often]), that would 
serve to  increase the interest in this neck of the woods.  
 
By the way, the "new" Stadium is very nice, indeed--but I miss the "old"  
one nonetheless.  The field is pretty, but is not the hallowed ground where  
the Bambino, the Iron Horse, Joltin' Joe, the Mick, Yogi, Whitey,  Thurman, 
Reggie, Donnie Baseball, etc., created their legends.  I once  went to a U-2 
Concert there, and had seats in center field, and was as excited  about 
sitting where my hero, Mr. Mantle, had played, as I was in seeing Bono and  
Company.
 
One last thought, on an NU note:  Read an article online the other day  
predicting J.A. Happ will cop Rookie of the Year honors in the National  
League.  He is having a wonderful year.  Not bad for a product of our  baseball 
team, which our colleague John DeGroat has advocated should be  scrapped, for 
lack of success.:-)
 
Paul Levinson
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From johnadeg at comcast.net  Thu Sep  3 00:24:36 2009
From: johnadeg at comcast.net (johnadeg@comcast.net)
Date: Thu Sep  3 00:24:43 2009
Subject: [NU Sports] Motor City Bowl
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Little Caesar's is one of the few businesses that isn't flat broke in Detroit.  The Stryker Bowl wouldn't have been too cool since they manufacture orthopedic devices.  You old guys on the list probably know about some of their products.

John DeGroat
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Sent: Wed, 2 Sep 2009 22:50:40 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [NU Sports] Motor City Bowl


It has now been renamed The Little Caesar's Bowl, thereby commemorating my number one indulgence back in '70 and '71 as a new member of the NU community:

http://www.google.com/hostednews/ap/article/ALeqM5gFmlBJuYqhniPh_7WMIkDh7PNZhgD9AFDRB80


Chrysler and GM are totally out as sponsors.? Maybe they should have renamed it "The Clunkers Bowl".



Paul Levinson
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From johnadeg at comcast.net  Thu Sep  3 01:15:10 2009
From: johnadeg at comcast.net (johnadeg@comcast.net)
Date: Thu Sep  3 01:15:29 2009
Subject: [NU Sports] Wooten
Message-ID: <1488960323.6982401251958510014.JavaMail.root@sz0080a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net>

Good article on Wooten in the Sun-Times.
John DeGroat
From johnadeg at comcast.net  Thu Sep  3 04:19:00 2009
From: johnadeg at comcast.net (johnadeg@comcast.net)
Date: Thu Sep  3 04:19:18 2009
Subject: [NU Sports] U of M soap opera
Message-ID: <552881330.6987021251969540678.JavaMail.root@sz0080a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net>

Go to freep.com. This guy, Rich, is a gem.

John DeGroat
From jonathanwhodges at gmail.com  Thu Sep  3 08:16:49 2009
From: jonathanwhodges at gmail.com (Jonathan Hodges)
Date: Thu Sep  3 08:17:23 2009
Subject: [NU Sports] Watching NU from overseas?
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BTW, the Big Ten Ticket, which allows overseas fans to watch the BTN live,
is now up:

http://www.bigtenticket.com

The "school pass" is $69.95 for the year, which allows one to watch ALL
content from that school for the 09-10 school year (i.e. football,
basketball, other sports & shows).  There are also options for a single
event and for an all-access pass.

This seems like a great step forward; I don't know of any other TV networks
offering legal content to those overseas (I lived overseas before enrolling
in NU and my parents still live there - you're basically stuck with whatever
cable/satellite offering there is in your region, which varies - and I know
that college football offerings are slim).

Also, the BTN put a bunch of its "greatest games" (NU/UM 2000, NU/Minnesota
2000, NU/MSU 2001, etc. are on there) on full-length streaming @ hulu:
http://www.hulu.com/network/big-ten-network

And for those of you using twitter, the BTN shows/hosts are very responsive
to tweets sent their way.

I'd say the BTN has an excellent web-integration strategy going and
hopefully it will lead to more success for the network, especially now that
all of the cable contract haggling is behind them.

Jonathan

On Fri, Aug 21, 2009 at 5:40 AM, Jim Leonard <jleonard518@yahoo.com> wrote:

> Fellow Wildcat Faithful,
>
> I am in the process of making a career transition. I have left (fled)
> Corporate America and I hoping to start teaching English overseas. My first
> choice is Korea, though I haven't landed a job yet.
>
> I know there are websites out there like Hulu that allow you to watch TV
> over the web. Has anyone found a good way to watch NU specifically (Big Ten
> Network, ESPN family, etc.) from outside the US?
>
> Victory & Honor,
> Jim
>
>
>
>
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From tbng at comcast.net  Thu Sep  3 08:29:26 2009
From: tbng at comcast.net (Dennis W. Brandt)
Date: Thu Sep  3 08:29:46 2009
Subject: [NU Sports] Watching NU from overseas?
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> BTW, the Big Ten Ticket, which allows overseas fans to watch the BTN live,
> is now up:
>
> http://www.bigtenticket.com

At $24.95, they don't want to sell a lot of single game PPV when a school's 
entire football and men's basketball televised schedule is $69.95.  For 
those of use within the borders of the U.S., the question is how many games 
this would get over standard TV.  Would it include the Syracuse game, for 
example?  Are there televised NU preseason basketball games that are not 
available nationally? 

From cherron604 at aol.com  Thu Sep  3 08:31:39 2009
From: cherron604 at aol.com (cherron604@aol.com)
Date: Thu Sep  3 08:32:25 2009
Subject: [NU Sports] Big Ten Bowl Game at YANKEE STADIUM? 'CATS at YANKEE
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http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2009/writers/stewart_mandel/08/13/bowl.arrangements/index.html



Read some of the articles on the Bowl talk.? Does anyone have any thoughts on the likely Bowl switches ?? Out for the Alamo and Champs, in for the Gator and Texas ?



I will miss San Antonio, always a great town to visit.? I have not spent a lot of time in Jacksonville, but I remember their recent Super Bowl had some less-than-nice weather.? Champs was only here for a few years, and we already have an Orlando presence.? Houston seems like a nice addition.? Other than lousy traffic, it is a nice city to visit, and Galveston and Padre Island/Corpus Christi are a short drive away.



Reading about the Holiday Bowl 'dropping a notch' is kind of sad - I attended a Holiday Bowl one year, and few places are nicer than San Diego in December.



In an interesting note - the college football guy on KFAN in Minneapolis was touting the Gophers this morning, but he only predicted a 7-5 finish for them, due to a tough schedule.? He mentioned that Penn State and Ohio State were the obvious favorites, but mentioned Northwestern as a sleepr choice.



Chuck Herron?? Tech '85


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As for the bowl game, the Big East has been working with Yankee officials to
get a bowl game certified for the new Yankee Stadium.  If that doesn't
happen, expect it to move to the new Giants Stadium.  The league wants a
bowl game in New York because they are trying to build up college football
in NYC and  think a bowl game in NYC will attract media attention.  I rather
doubt it if the Giants are still in the playoffs.  If not, then it probably
will attract some attention, especially if the Rangers aren't playing so
hot.

One of the new commissioner's goals is to change the mix and raise the
profile of the Big East's bowl games and he sees this as one possibility.
The Big Ten is seen as the best opponent both geographically and for media
attention.

As for NU playing a home game in Yankee Stadium, I don't know that it was
ever proposed that NU give up a home game.  Both 'cuse and Army are playing
home games there so I would think it would be a Syracuse home game not a NU
home game that we would be playing.  It would just mean a higher, much
higher, guarantee for NU to play the game, or perhaps, a split of the gate
instead of a guarantee.
Mark


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On Wed, Sep 2, 2009 at 4:31 PM, Roy Lamberton <rstetson@capps-assoc.com>wrote:

> The NY Giants played the "best game ever" in the old Yankee Stadium in
> December.
>
> A football field fits in there just fine - with the sideline parallel to
> the
> 3rd base line.
>
> I'll take a bowl there - NU would get at least :20 a night during the week
> prior on each of the local TV outlets. <g> :20 more than we get there now,
> and in Chicago most nights.
>
> (does Fitz have a regular TV or Radio show yet?)
>
> rsl
>
> ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
> Ro
y S. Lamberton - Senior Associate & Unix Guru.
> Computer Applications & Support Associates
> -------------------- Also ----------------------
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> Retired Senior Chief Cryptologic Technician [R]
> Northwestern University - Speech 1974 -
> Chi Phi: Pi 1974, KD 1968
> Publisher Emeritus: Purple Reign (Fox Sports)
> ==========  Go Cats -  Beat 'em All  ===========
> So...
>     How's that "hope" and "Change"
>     Working for ya?
>
> Don't re-elect nobody, not even yo mama!
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>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: nwu-sports-bounces@tssi.com [mailto:nwu-sports-bounces@tssi.com] On
> Behalf Of NEONRye@aol.com
> Sent: Wednesday, September 02, 2009 2:54 PM
> To: tbng@comcast.net; nwu-sports@tssi.com
> Subject: Re: [NU Sports] Big Ten Bowl Game at YANKEE STADIUM? 'CATS at
> YANKEE
>
> May all plans to play an NU home game in Yankee Stadium go up in  flames.
> A)
> I have no admiration for Yankee Stadium, old or new; B)  Don't tear up
> baseball fields playing football on them; C) We're  NorthWESTern, not
> NorthEASTern.  Let them play there or maybe  Rutgers-Connecticut.
>
>
> Considering that our retiring President, Mr. Bienen, is originally from
> this area, and that our incoming President, Mr. Shapiro, is currently from
> up
> the road a bit (Massachusetts), they might well disagree with your
> statement.
>
> I don't know why people on this list are so negative about Jim Phillips
> trying to boost the program's visibility by playing in famous baseball
> stadiums  (stadia?), unless we lose true "home" games (at Ryan) as a
> consequence.
> If  we can make NU football a recognized "brand" by doing this, and
> provided
>
> that  the Administration and the Athletic Dept. continue to adhere to the
> principles  that have made our program a standard-bearer for doing things
> the
> right way, how  can that be a 'bad" thing?
>
> Paul Levinson
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ssi.com
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From jonathanwhodges at gmail.com  Thu Sep  3 08:36:07 2009
From: jonathanwhodges at gmail.com (Jonathan Hodges)
Date: Thu Sep  3 08:36:36 2009
Subject: [NU Sports] Watching NU from overseas?
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I don't think this includes anything that one can't get on the BTN on
cable/satellite if they are living in the U.S. (i.e. they should be showing
the same content).  The BTN doesn't have rights to the Syracuse game (not a
BT home game) so it won't be available there.  (Although, as previously
mentioned here, the Syracuse game will be at least available streaming from
the SU sports website SUathletics.com - available both within and outside
the US.)  In terms of basketball, I know the BTN televised at least some
preseason/exhibition games before and they do televise EVERY home men's
basketball game (if not already on CBS or ESPN/2) - so one can get many of
the NU games that way.

I'm almost positive that the BTN has restrictions on who can actually stream
from the site to effectively block those within the U.S. from watching the
Big Ten Ticket since it is available to anyone in the US via their cable
operator or by switching to satellite.  There are ways to get around those
restrictions, sure, but it's probably too much effort relative to just
getting it on cable/satellite.

Jonathan

On Thu, Sep 3, 2009 at 8:29 AM, Dennis W. Brandt <tbng@comcast.net> wrote:

>  BTW, the Big Ten Ticket, which allows overseas fans to watch the BTN live,
>> is now up:
>>
>> http://www.bigtenticket.com
>>
>
> At $24.95, they don't want to sell a lot of single game PPV when a school's
> entire football and men's basketball televised schedule is $69.95.  For
> those of use within the borders of the U.S., the question is how many games
> this would get over standard TV.  Would it include the Syracuse game, for
> example?  Are there televised NU preseason basketball games that are not
> available nationally?
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From cherron604 at aol.com  Thu Sep  3 08:38:34 2009
From: cherron604 at aol.com (cherron604@aol.com)
Date: Thu Sep  3 08:38:59 2009
Subject: [NU Sports] Big Ten Bowl Game at YANKEE STADIUM? 'CATS at YANKEE
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Does anybody know - is the Carrier Dome still not air conditioned ?? I attended a September game there once and the heat was miserable (in the stands anyway).? I remember somebody in print mentioning the irony of a dome with naming rights owned by Carrier not being air conditioned.



Chuck Herron?? Tech '85


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Sent: Wed, Sep 2, 2009 9:31 pm
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?? After reading the posts pro and con in regards to a home game at Yankee 
Stadium, my .02 is that as long as we keep 6 games in Evanston, if we schueduled 
the 7th home game?in Lower Gibbip , I'm fine with it. 

?? Facts are that a home game atmosphere can be created in the east, as many NU 
alums reside in the Eastern time zone.? As most of you know, I'm in the minority 
on our list (non NU alum) ?as I got hooked on NU in the Dark Ages as a Chicago 
resident, and have bled purple since my move to Pennsylvania years ago.? I would 
assume that ticket sales would be offered (first) to season ticket holders, 
alums, and financial supporters (Which I am one of).? 

?? Games at Wrigley, Yankee Stadium will increase revenues and exposure. As long 
as we keep 6 games in Evanston, including games vs. Mich, OSU, PSU, lets do it!

?? PS- I would not agree if we move high profile games vs. above-said opponents. 
This is "selling out"? No more "home" games vs. Ohio St. in Cleveland.



?? Doug DeCinces Dept:? As Coach Roy knows,? Doug DeCinces was an excellant 
third baseman for the O's who took over for...Brooks Robinson.? I was going to 
post some info for us east coast Cats pertaining to the 7 PM (EDT) game on 
9/19/09 game?at Syracuse, but this news pales in comparison to the story about 
Yankee Stadium!? But here goes...

?? Ticket prices are stiff; ranging from $38-68 dollars.? Prices on Subhub are 
much more manageable, about 1/2 what is offered at face value.? Additionally,? 
SU's website exclaims that they are only 9700 tickets short of a sell -out for 
Coach Marrone's first game.? I would assume that if the Goph's beat 'em, and 
they get hammered by PSU, tickets will be cheap and plentiful.

?? However, if SU beats either Minnesota or PSU (not) , tickets could be 
expensive. For the record, I expect Minnesota to put aside their excitement of 
opening their own stadium and beat SU. Lord knows they have experience playing 
in domes.

? Early Towson prognostication:? Wildelk has good news. My son attends Robert 
M
orris U. (freshman)?outside Pittsburgh, as he's majoring in Business, with an 
emphasis in Sports Mgmt.? RMU has an excellant program, and lots of 
opportunities with the Pirates and Penquins. (Internships, work, etc.)

? Anyway, Wild's wife miises her first child terribly, and has dictated that we 
will be in Pittsburgh with him (he started 8/20/09...early!) over the Labor day 
weekend, so how much of the "scrimmage" on Saturday I will see is debateable.? 
Get carries to someone,? get Persa in, no one hurt...NU 41 Towson 10.? I'm 
interested in how the defense looks, as that unit will determine how far we will 
go.



????????????? GO CATS!!!????????????? Eric


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To: NEONRye@aol.com; tbng@comcast.net; nwu-sports@tssi.com
Sent: Wed, Sep 2, 2009 4:31 pm
Subject: RE: [NU Sports] Big Ten Bowl Game at YANKEE STADIUM? 'CATS at YANKEE




The NY Giants played the "best game ever" in the old Yankee Stadium in
December.

A football field fits in there just fine - with the sideline parallel to the
3rd base line. 

I'll take a bowl there - NU would get at least :20 a night during the week
prior on each of the local TV outlets. <g> :20 more than we get there now,
and in Chicago most nights. 

(does Fitz have a regular TV or Radio show yet?)

rsl

++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
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Computer Applications & Support Associates
-------------------- Also ----------------------
Commissioner Delaware American Legion Baseball
Retired Senior Chief Cryptologic Technician [R]
Northwestern University - Speech 1974 - 
Chi Phi: Pi 1974, KD 1968
Publisher Emeritus: Purple Reign (Fox Sports)
==========  Go Cats -? Beat 'em All  ===========
So...
     How's that "hope" and "Change"
     Working for ya?

Don't re-elect nobody, not even yo mama!
================================================


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Behalf Of NEON
Rye@aol.com
Sent: Wednesday, September 02, 2009 2:54 PM
To: tbng@comcast.net; nwu-sports@tssi.com
Subject: Re: [NU Sports] Big Ten Bowl Game at YANKEE STADIUM? 'CATS at
YANKEE

May all plans to play an NU home game in Yankee Stadium go up in  flames.  
A) 
I have no admiration for Yankee Stadium, old or new; B)  Don't tear up 
baseball fields playing football on them; C) We're  NorthWESTern, not 
NorthEASTern.  Let them play there or maybe  Rutgers-Connecticut. 
 
 
Considering that our retiring President, Mr. Bienen, is originally from  
this area, and that our incoming President, Mr. Shapiro, is currently from
up  
the road a bit (Massachusetts), they might well disagree with your  
statement.
 
I don't know why people on this list are so negative about Jim Phillips  
trying to boost the program's visibility by playing in famous baseball 
stadiums  (stadia?), unless we lose true "home" games (at Ryan) a
s a
consequence.  
If  we can make NU football a recognized "brand" by doing this, and provided

that  the Administration and the Athletic Dept. continue to adhere to the 
principles  that have made our program a standard-bearer for doing things
the 
right way, how  can that be a 'bad" thing?  
 
Paul Levinson
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From jonathanwhodges at gmail.com  Thu Sep  3 08:43:06 2009
From: jonathanwhodges at gmail.com (Jonathan Hodges)
Date: Thu Sep  3 08:43:48 2009
Subject: [NU Sports] Big Ten Bowl Game at YANKEE STADIUM? 'CATS at YANKEE
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On the bowl switches:

- It's always good to switch up the lower bowl sites (i.e. anything below
the Capital One Bowl) to bring some variety, especially when some teams end
up going to the same locales on a regular basis.  In light of this, I think
switching 2 of the bowls is a good idea from the conference perspective.

- San Antonio is a nice place, but the Gator Bowl is a nice addition - it's
been around a while and Florida is never a bad place to visit that time of
year.

- The Champs Sports Bowl appears to be out (although the aforementioned
Gator will keep 3 B10 bowls in Florida), and the Texas bowl would be an
interesting addition; the Texas bowl would also keep a Big XII opponent and
also keep a B10 presence in Texas.

- 7 bowl tie-ins is just about the right number for the conference (although
the B10 has only sent 2 teams to the Motor City Bowl since signing that
agreement in 2002, and in 2007 saw 2 bowl-eligible teams sit at home) - the
conference has had 2 BCS representatives more time than any other
conference, and it's difficult to expect more than 7/8 teams to be bowl
eligible in any given year.

I hope that in the future there is more rotation in the bowl lineup,
especially if NU can become a regular at bowls - that way us fans can get a
chance to see different areas and opponents.

Jonathan

On Thu, Sep 3, 2009 at 8:31 AM, <cherron604@aol.com> wrote:

>
>
> http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2009/writers/stewart_mandel/08/13/bowl.arrangements/index.html
>
>
>
> Read some of the articles on the Bowl talk.? Does anyone have any thoughts
> on the likely Bowl switches ?? Out for the Alamo and Champs, in for the
> Gator and Texas ?
>
>
>
> I will miss San Antonio, always a great town to visit.? I have not spent a
> lot of time in Jacksonville, but I remember their recent Super Bowl had some
> less-than-nice weather.? Champs was only here for a few years, and we
> already have an Orlando presence.? Houston seems like a nice addition.?
> Other than lousy traffic, it is a nice city to visit, and Galveston and
> Padre Island/Corpus Christi are a short drive away.
>
>
>
> Reading about the Holiday Bowl 'dropping a notch' is kind of sad - I
> attended a Holiday Bowl one year, and few places are nicer than San Diego in
> December.
>
>
>
> In an interesting note - the college football guy on KFAN in Minneapolis
> was touting the Gophers this morning, but he only predicted a 7-5 finish for
> them, due to a tough schedule.? He mentioned that Penn State and Ohio State
> were the obvious favorites, but mentioned Northwestern as a sleepr choice.
>
>
>
> Chuck Herron?? Tech '85
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Sportsbiz <sportsbiz@gmail.com>
> To: Roy Lamberton <rstetson@capps-assoc.com>
> Cc: tbng@comcast.net; nwu-sports@tssi.com
> Sent: Wed, Sep 2, 2009 6:16 pm
> Subject: Re: [NU Sports] Big Ten Bowl Game at YANKEE STADIUM? 'CATS at
> YANKEE
>
>
>
>
> As for the bowl game, the Big East has been working with Yankee officials
> to
> get a bowl game certified for the new Yankee Stadium.  If that doesn't
> happen, expect it to move to the new Giants Stadium.  The league wants a
> bowl game in New York because they are trying to build up college football
> in NYC and  think a bowl game in NYC will attract media attention.  I
> rather
> doubt it if the Giants are still in the playoffs.  If not, then it probably
> will attract some attention, especially if the Rangers aren't playing so
> hot.
>
> One of the new commissioner's goals is to change the mix and raise the
> profile of the Big East's bowl games and he sees this as one possibility.
> The Big Ten is seen as the best opponent both geographically and for media
> attention.
>
> As for NU playing a home game in Yankee Stadium, I don't know that it was
> ever proposed that NU give up a home game.  Both 'cuse and Army are playing
> home games there so I would think it would be a Syracuse home game not a NU
> home game that we would be playing.  It would just mean a higher, much
> higher, guarantee for NU to play the game, or perhaps, a split of the gate
> instead of a guarantee.
> Mark
>
>
> Mark S. Ament
> sportsbiz@gmail.com
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> On Wed, Sep 2, 2009 at 4:31 PM, Roy Lamberton <rstetson@capps-assoc.com
> >wrote:
>
> > The NY Giants played the "best game ever" in the old Yankee Stadium in
> > December.
> >
> > A football field fits in there just fine - with the sideline parallel to
> > the
> > 3rd base line.
> >
> > I'll take a bowl there - NU would get at least :20 a night during the
> week
> > prior on each of the local TV outlets. <g> :20 more than we get there
> now,
> > and in Chicago most nights.
> >
> > (does Fitz have a regular TV or Radio show yet?)
> >
> > rsl
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> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: nwu-sports-bounces@tssi.com [mailto:nwu-sports-bounces@tssi.com]
> On
> > Behalf Of NEONRye@aol.com
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> > To: tbng@comcast.net; nwu-sports@tssi.com
> > Subject: Re: [NU Sports] Big Ten Bowl Game at YANKEE STADIUM? 'CATS at
> > YANKEE
> >
> > May all plans to play an NU home game in Yankee Stadium go up in  flames.
> > A)
> > I have no admiration for Yankee Stadium, old or new; B)  Don't tear up
> > baseball fields playing football on them; C) We're  NorthWESTern, not
> > NorthEASTern.  Let them play there or maybe  Rutgers-Connecticut.
> >
> >
> > Considering that our retiring President, Mr. Bienen, is originally from
> > this area, and that our incoming President, Mr. Shapiro, is currently
> from
> > up
> > the road a bit (Massachusetts), they might well disagree with your
> > statement.
> >
> > I don't know why people on this list are so negative about Jim Phillips
> > trying to boost the program's visibility by playing in famous baseball
> > stadiums  (stadia?), unless we lose true "home" games (at Ryan) as a
> > consequence.
> > If  we can make NU football a recognized "brand" by doing this, and
> > provided
> >
> > that  the Administration and the Athletic Dept. continue to adhere to the
> > principles  that have made our program a standard-bearer for doing things
> > the
> > right way, how  can that be a 'bad" thing?
> >
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From cherron604 at aol.com  Thu Sep  3 08:46:52 2009
From: cherron604 at aol.com (cherron604@aol.com)
Date: Thu Sep  3 08:47:28 2009
Subject: [NU Sports] NU football, bowl games, etc.
In-Reply-To: <267656.95595.qm@web52901.mail.re2.yahoo.com>
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Have to part with Stephen on one point.? While Wrigley may look good on television, the stadium itself is a dump - seats pointing in bad directions, horrible restrooms, crumbling concrete, lousy concessions, miserable parking.? The amenities at New Comiskey on the south side are far superior.



Though I haven't been there yet, I would have to imagine that the amenities at New Yankee Stadium are as good as any in baseball.? And I especially like the 'George Steinbrenner wants it to happen' angle.? Good to see our one-time assistant still has a soft spot for us.



Chuck Herron?? Tech '85


-----Original Message-----
From: SjT (Stephen J. Truog) <sjtruog@yahoo.com>
To: nwu-sports@tssi.com
Sent: Wed, Sep 2, 2009 11:26 pm
Subject: [NU Sports] NU football, bowl games, etc.




LOVE to come home and see hordes of FOOTBALL posts on this list! I'm getting 
PSYCHED!!!

As for the topic of the day, lots of things to say ...

* Bowl game in NYC in December: Love it. LOVE IT! Why the whining about a 
cold-weather bowl. We need MORE of those. This is REAL football weather and may 
be our best chance to get an SEC team out of its humid, cozy, sweaty home and in 
our weather for a game! Let's see if Gator gums can still flap in 10 below.

But seriously - NYC is a destination any time of year (certainly more than 
Boise, Nashville, Jacksonville or El Paso) and no matter what the weather, it's 
a fantastic idea -- big market, big bowl and weather. TV audiences LOVE the 
weather (see the NHL winter classic!).

* NU playing in Yankee Stadium: Not so wild about this idea, especially if it 
would cost us a home game. Like the idea of east coast exposure and developing 
rivalries out east for recruiting, but not at the expense of a home game. And 
besides, playing at the "House that 'Roids Built" isn't as big of a deal as 
Wrigley or Fenway ... and with the wind tunnel there our passes would soar into 
the stands. The Yankees and their new $tadium and team of bought mercs with 
needles still sticking out of their arms represent everything that sucks about 
baseball in the modern era. Why the push to move football games to baseball 
stadiums (see the NHL winter classic? Guess I had that coming :) ).

* Our new AD's marketing campaign: Can't fault a guy for trying and I love the 
energy ... but sometimes you can't just throw everything at a wall. LOVE the 
idea of giving tickets away to scholar students. We have a good team. We have 
exciting games (more than any stadium in the country over the past decade or 
so). We HAVE a good product. Do whatever it takes to get people into the stands 
and we'll start to build a base in the Chicagoland area. But don't move home 
games to NYC.

* Finally, on the realignment of bowls ... looks like the Alamo ditched us for 
the Pac 10. Good luck with that, San Antonio
. We brought hordes of fans and big 
games/ratings. I doubt the Pac 10 will bring that. Still, while San Antonio was 
a wonderful destination, the stadium sort of sucked.

On the plus side, it appears Phoenix is poised to move up in the Big Ten pecking 
order for the insight bowl. They run a good bowl over in Tempe. We have perfect 
weather in December here (same golf and old people as Florida, minus the 
humidity), the Insight is a bowl on the rise and it should be a good matchup 
with the Big XII outside of their home turf.

Hopefully the league uses this annual shakeup to keep doing what we did right 
with bowls (big $$$ and destinations) while eliminating some of the bad (too 
many road matchups and uneven "Big Ten #6 vs. Pac 10 #3 or so" matchups).

Well, that's a lot to digest. So great to have college football BACK!
GO CATS!!!
-SjT

* * * * * * * * *
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sjtruog@yahoo.com
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From nolan at romaine.tssi.com  Thu Sep  3 11:58:22 2009
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Date: Thu Sep  3 11:58:25 2009
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From NEONRye at aol.com  Thu Sep  3 18:16:29 2009
From: NEONRye at aol.com (NEONRye@aol.com)
Date: Thu Sep  3 18:16:04 2009
Subject: [NU Sports] Big Ten Bowl Game at YANKEE STADIUM? 'CATS at YANKEE
Message-ID: <d14.527f91e1.37d1a84d@aol.com>

I can confirm that as of two years ago (May, 2007), when my daughter,  
Lauren, graduated from Newhouse, the Dome, despite being named for Carrier  
(which used to produce air conditioning units in Syracuse, but now has virtually 
 no presence there), is not air conditioned.   Fortunately, it wasn't a  
very hot day for the Commencement exercises.  However.....
 
When we first took Lauren to campus Fall of her freshman year, there was a  
Convocation/Family Picnic in the Dome (in late August), and it was hot as  
blazes.
 
I'm sure the Dome is a great place for hoops (albeit with bad sight lines), 
 but I didn't like it much for FB, when, for Parents Weekend, we were 
treated to  the exciting matchup between 'Cuse and Temple.  And it was hot then,  
too.
 
Paul Levinson
From jmccull at insight.rr.com  Thu Sep  3 21:31:40 2009
From: jmccull at insight.rr.com (J.R. McCullough)
Date: Thu Sep  3 21:32:48 2009
Subject: [NU Sports] Baz looks GOOD
Message-ID: <16CD18A46D4948008FBFD1B6B38640E7@JRPC>

Too bad he's 2nd string. Baz looks very good tonight. He's making all the reads and all the throws. He had a perfectly placed slant for a TD, a 21 yard strike on 3rd down, and several check downs to secondary receivers. He even threw one from the outside hash to the sideline on a rope. 

On another note, IU and EKU are BAD football teams. 
From sjtruog at yahoo.com  Thu Sep  3 22:51:36 2009
From: sjtruog at yahoo.com (SjT (Stephen J. Truog))
Date: Thu Sep  3 22:51:44 2009
Subject: [NU Sports] Bowl swappin ...
In-Reply-To: <fcb3ee270909030643y6da80b57s57658381fb80610f@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <968463.96234.qm@web52907.mail.re2.yahoo.com>

> - It's always good to switch up the lower bowl sites (i.e.
> anything below

Perhaps - not wild on Jacksonville and Houston replacing San Antonio and Orlando from any standpoint (family vacation, destination city, prestige, etc.).

It really just goes to show how decimated the bowl system is with the B(C)S error in full effect - this is a system on life support right now trying desperate tricks that are the equivalent of stunt casting on a low-rated TV sitcom.

If they're smart, the bowl folk will see the writing on the wall and get into these early season "Chick-fil-A Classic" or the new game in Dallas as a football version of the preseason NIT. Those games sell more tickets and draw bigger ratings than a meaningless December bowl game.

> - San Antonio is a nice place, but the Gator Bowl is a nice
> addition - it's
> been around a while and Florida is never a bad place to

Jacksonville??? I'll take central Texas any time. This is a New Year's game ... true ... but the stadium's been half empty there more often than not recently. And I assume it will move away from Jan. 1 so it doesn't compete with the Big Ten games in Tampa/Orlando.

> Gator will keep 3 B10 bowls in Florida), and the Texas bowl
> would be an
> interesting addition; the Texas bowl would also keep a Big

Houston??? As my NU geography prof said in one of the all-time classic lines: "Houston is the 4th largest city in America, and the 400th most interesting city in America."

The stadium's gotta be a step up from San Antonio, but that's it. The game is NFL Network, right? So lower TV availability plus a city that really doesn't care about sports.

I'm not sure I like all of the shuffling -- one of the few things the bowls had left was that tradition. This removes that from some of the bowls left out by the B(C)S system.

The biggest example is the Holiday Bowl. This was one of the best pre-January bowls every year with great tradition and exciting matchups. Now pffft???

One one hand, I'm glad because this is another nail in the bowl system's coffin -- but sad to see some of the bowls that had managed to hang on to tradition like the Holiday or Gator ... or those who had built a decent tradition like the Alamo ... have to start over from scratch.

GO CATS!!!
-SjT


      

From mlinhardt at netzero.com  Fri Sep  4 05:57:32 2009
From: mlinhardt at netzero.com (mlinhardt@netzero.com)
Date: Fri Sep  4 06:00:06 2009
Subject: [NU Sports] Bowl swappin ...
Message-ID: <20090904.055732.8827.0@webmail04.dca.untd.com>

We have been to every bowl excluding '49.

SA/Alamo was the worst.  We learned this time to fly into Houston and stay in Galveston, but SA was such a dog.  The only thing SA has going for itself is layered margaritas.  With the Houston bowl we avoid the 2 1/2 hour drive from Galveston to SA.

The gator bowl seems fine, although we probably will stay along the coast farther south.

I look forward to the Insight bowl as I really thought Tempe was nice when the weather was not blazing.  Good ethnic and ecclectic dining and inexpensive places to stay.

I think the TV could get upgraded on the Texas bowl with a Big Ten addition.

As for wishing for the bowl system demise I disagree with you.  The ROSE BOWL - Big 10 vs. Pac 10 is the ONLY thing that matters.  BCS be darned.  The rest of the bowls be darned.

---------- Original Message ----------
From: "SjT \(Stephen J. Truog\)" <sjtruog@yahoo.com>
To: nwu-sports@tssi.com
Subject: [NU Sports] Bowl swappin ...
Date: Thu, 3 Sep 2009 20:51:36 -0700 (PDT)

> - It's always good to switch up the lower bowl sites (i.e.
> anything below

Perhaps - not wild on Jacksonville and Houston replacing San Antonio and Orlando from any standpoint (family vacation, destination city, prestige, etc.).

It really just goes to show how decimated the bowl system is with the B(C)S error in full effect - this is a system on life support right now trying desperate tricks that are the equivalent of stunt casting on a low-rated TV sitcom.

If they're smart, the bowl folk will see the writing on the wall and get into these early season "Chick-fil-A Classic" or the new game in Dallas as a football version of the preseason NIT. Those games sell more tickets and draw bigger ratings than a meaningless December bowl game.

> - San Antonio is a nice place, but the Gator Bowl is a nice
> addition - it's
> been around a while and Florida is never a bad place to

Jacksonville??? I'll take central Texas any time. This is a New Year's game ... true ... but the stadium's been half empty there more often than not recently. And I assume it will move away from Jan. 1 so it doesn't compete with the Big Ten games in Tampa/Orlando.

> Gator will keep 3 B10 bowls in Florida), and the Texas bowl
> would be an
> interesting addition; the Texas bowl would also keep a Big

Houston??? As my NU geography prof said in one of the all-time classic lines: "Houston is the 4th largest city in America, and the 400th most interesting city in America."

The stadium's gotta be a step up from San Antonio, but that's it. The game is NFL Network, right? So lower TV availability plus a city that really doesn't care about sports.

I'm not sure I like all of the shuffling -- one of the few things the bowls had left was that tradition. This removes that from some of the bowls left out by the B(C)S system.

The biggest example is the Holiday Bowl. This was one of the best pre-January bowls every year with great tradition and exciting matchups. Now pffft???

One one hand, I'm glad because this is another nail in the bowl system's coffin -- but sad to see some of the bowls that had managed to hang on to tradition like the Holiday or Gator ... or those who had built a decent tradition like the Alamo ... have to start over from scratch.

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From tbng at comcast.net  Fri Sep  4 06:12:02 2009
From: tbng at comcast.net (Dennis W. Brandt)
Date: Fri Sep  4 06:12:21 2009
Subject: [NU Sports] Bowl swappin ...
References: <20090904.055732.8827.0@webmail04.dca.untd.com>
Message-ID: <73DEDF4D941447DEB4DF5652DC773C58@DennisMachine>

<The only thing SA has going for itself is layered margaritas.

Nonsense!  San Antonio is one of my favorite cities because in many regards 
it is more like a small town.  No tall buildings, and there's the Alamo 
sitting midtown.  The Riverwalk is beautiful, and la comida es magn?fico. 
No se permita una actitud tan ?spera hacia San Antonio cuate. 

From MHRJGScott at aol.com  Fri Sep  4 06:56:24 2009
From: MHRJGScott at aol.com (MHRJGScott@aol.com)
Date: Fri Sep  4 06:56:42 2009
Subject: [NU Sports] Bowl swappin ...
Message-ID: <bcd.5503679d.37d25a68@aol.com>

Gator swap with champs is ok with me, but SI picks us tied for 4th in the  
BT and projects us going to the motor city bowl, sheesh.
 
Peace  















































and  Love  

 
In a message dated 9/4/2009 7:12:47 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time,  
tbng@comcast.net writes:

<The  only thing SA has going for itself is layered  margaritas.

Nonsense!  San Antonio is one of my favorite cities  because in many 
regards 
it is more like a small town.  No tall  buildings, and there's the Alamo 
sitting midtown.  The Riverwalk is  beautiful, and la comida es magn?fico. 
No se permita una actitud tan  ?spera hacia San Antonio cuate.  

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From MHRJGScott at aol.com  Fri Sep  4 06:57:23 2009
From: MHRJGScott at aol.com (MHRJGScott@aol.com)
Date: Fri Sep  4 06:57:36 2009
Subject: [NU Sports] Baz looks GOOD
Message-ID: <c52.58ce69f9.37d25aa3@aol.com>

Especially on the strike to Peterman, old CATS! hook up.
 
Peace  















































and  Love  

 
In a message dated 9/3/2009 10:33:17 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,  
jmccull@insight.rr.com writes:

Too bad  he's 2nd string. Baz looks very good tonight. He's making all the 
reads and  all the throws. He had a perfectly placed slant for a TD, a 21 
yard strike on  3rd down, and several check downs to secondary receivers. He 
even threw one  from the outside hash to the sideline on a rope. 

On another note, IU  and EKU are BAD football teams.  
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From Jeff.Beamsley at covisint.com  Fri Sep  4 08:23:50 2009
From: Jeff.Beamsley at covisint.com (Beamsley, Jeff)
Date: Fri Sep  4 08:24:07 2009
Subject: [NU Sports] Bowl swappin ...
In-Reply-To: <bcd.5503679d.37d25a68@aol.com>
References: <bcd.5503679d.37d25a68@aol.com>
Message-ID: <8BB9E796-6397-4ABC-A166-E0CCB1981E7A@covisint.com>

Little Ceasars Bowl

Sent from my iPhone

On Sep 4, 2009, at 7:56 AM, "MHRJGScott@aol.com" <MHRJGScott@aol.com>  
wrote:

> Gator swap with champs is ok with me, but SI picks us tied for 4th  
> in the
> BT and projects us going to the motor city bowl, sheesh.
>
> Peace
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> and  Love
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>
> In a message dated 9/4/2009 7:12:47 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
> tbng@comcast.net writes:
>
> <The  only thing SA has going for itself is layered  margaritas.
>
> Nonsense!  San Antonio is one of my favorite cities  because in many
> regards
> it is more like a small town.  No tall  buildings, and there's the  
> Alamo
> sitting midtown.  The Riverwalk is  beautiful, and la comida es magn 
> ?fico.
> No se permita una actitud tan  ?spera hacia San Antonio cuate.
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From sjtruog at yahoo.com  Fri Sep  4 08:31:14 2009
From: sjtruog at yahoo.com (SjT (Stephen J. Truog))
Date: Fri Sep  4 08:31:20 2009
Subject: [NU Sports] Bowl swappin ...
In-Reply-To: <20090904.055732.8827.0@webmail04.dca.untd.com>
Message-ID: <339500.25153.qm@web52909.mail.re2.yahoo.com>

> SA/Alamo was the worst.? We learned this time to fly
> into Houston and stay in Galveston, but SA was such a

Wow, you guys really had a bad SA experience.:) I've been to Houston and San Antonio and have the opposite view -- I can see no earthly reason to ever have to visit Houston again.

> I look forward to the Insight bowl as I really thought
> Tempe was nice when the weather was not blazing.? Good

I think that -- one again -- Phoenix is the big winner here. They are the only ones to emerge from the B(C)S mess for the better and this deal should pump up the Tempe bowl with a better matchup and bigger names.

Tempe ran the Fiesta Bowl extremely well and they do with this as well - they'll try and have it Dec. 31 as much as possible as Tempe has a huge New Year's Eve blowout by their "lake" -- all is within walking distance of the stadium and the Mill Avenue restaurants/bars. And Phoenix should have wonderful weather then.

> I think the TV could get upgraded on the Texas bowl with a
> Big Ten addition.

Sure hope so.

> As for wishing for the bowl system demise I disagree with
> you.? The ROSE BOWL - Big 10 vs. Pac 10 is the ONLY
> thing that matters.? BCS be darned.? The rest of
> the bowls be darned.

Well, we agree here. But as I've said before, the Rose Bowl is slowly being destroyed by the B(C)S -- and the new rule forcing it to take a Boise State or Utah is just the latest attempt to destroy that Big Ten/Pac 10 tradition. A couple years of that and we'll start hearing how unfair it is that they always get the Jan. 1 afternoon slot and they'll be moved into the rotation or have to share it with the Jerry Jones Bowl.

GO CATS!!!
-SjT

* * * * * * * * *
STEPHEN J. TRUOG
sjtruog@yahoo.com
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From tkmaycock at yahoo.com  Fri Sep  4 08:35:37 2009
From: tkmaycock at yahoo.com (Tom Maycock)
Date: Fri Sep  4 08:35:54 2009
Subject: [NU Sports] Baz looks GOOD
In-Reply-To: <16CD18A46D4948008FBFD1B6B38640E7@JRPC>
Message-ID: <293909.6987.qm@web33103.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

> Too bad he's 2nd string. 

3rd string, actually. 

But yeah, he was awesome last night. I think Hanie is still locked into the #2 spot, and there's a big question as to whether the Bears will even keep a 3rd QB. But I have to think B.B.'s scored some points for himself last night.

Tom

 

From jleonard518 at yahoo.com  Fri Sep  4 08:41:31 2009
From: jleonard518 at yahoo.com (Jim Leonard)
Date: Fri Sep  4 08:41:38 2009
Subject: [NU Sports] BTN and Comcast
In-Reply-To: <339500.25153.qm@web52909.mail.re2.yahoo.com>
References: <339500.25153.qm@web52909.mail.re2.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <866113.19059.qm@web36806.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

Happy NU Year's Eve to everyone. 

Does anyone know if Comcast will be carrying the Big Ten Network overflow channels this season?

Victory & Honor,
Jim


      

From jonathanwhodges at gmail.com  Fri Sep  4 08:48:18 2009
From: jonathanwhodges at gmail.com (Jonathan Hodges)
Date: Fri Sep  4 08:48:46 2009
Subject: [NU Sports] BTN and Comcast
In-Reply-To: <866113.19059.qm@web36806.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
References: <339500.25153.qm@web52909.mail.re2.yahoo.com>
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Yes, the BTN and Comcast came to an agreement in August of last year and it
is carried on the lowest cable tier in Big Ten states (minus Philadelphia),
and outside of the Big Ten footprint it's available on Comcast's Sports and
Entertainment Package (extra monthly fee).  I've been watching the BTN in
Evanston on Comcast for over a year now (I have the lowest digital cable
package, "Digital Starter").  Note that there was a possibility that Comcast
could move the BTN to higher level (more costly) cable tiers starting this
year, but that hasn't happened yet.  The BTN website has a ton more
information about its availability.

Jonathan

On Fri, Sep 4, 2009 at 8:41 AM, Jim Leonard <jleonard518@yahoo.com> wrote:

> Happy NU Year's Eve to everyone.
>
> Does anyone know if Comcast will be carrying the Big Ten Network overflow
> channels this season?
>
> Victory & Honor,
> Jim
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From tbng at comcast.net  Fri Sep  4 09:25:09 2009
From: tbng at comcast.net (Dennis W. Brandt)
Date: Fri Sep  4 09:25:17 2009
Subject: [NU Sports] BTN and Comcast
References: <339500.25153.qm@web52909.mail.re2.yahoo.com>
	<866113.19059.qm@web36806.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <57F109C6B15F4C2FB9D5325222D4A2A1@DennisMachine>

> Does anyone know if Comcast will be carrying the Big Ten Network overflow 
> channels this season?

They do here in York Pa - with the digital package.  DirecTV always has 
carried the overflows and in HD, too. 

From MHRJGScott at aol.com  Fri Sep  4 09:33:23 2009
From: MHRJGScott at aol.com (MHRJGScott@aol.com)
Date: Fri Sep  4 09:33:49 2009
Subject: [NU Sports] BTN and Comcast
Message-ID: <d1a.4915d449.37d27f33@aol.com>

In Orlando, maybe everywhere the Towson game is on at PM est on Sunday, the 
 last of the delayed Saturday games, no respect.
 
Peace  















































and  Love  

 
In a message dated 9/4/2009 10:25:47 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time,  
tbng@comcast.net writes:

>  Does anyone know if Comcast will be carrying the Big Ten Network 
overflow  
> channels this season?

They do here in York Pa - with the  digital package.  DirecTV always has 
carried the overflows and in HD,  too. 

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From mlinhardt at netzero.com  Fri Sep  4 11:34:21 2009
From: mlinhardt at netzero.com (mlinhardt@netzero.com)
Date: Fri Sep  4 11:35:50 2009
Subject: [NU Sports] Bowl swappin ...
Message-ID: <20090904.113421.25341.0@webmail04.dca.untd.com>

We are not parading Houston, but Galveston.  Beyond Pollo Campero(Guatemalan chicken chain) we did not stop or spend any time in Houston.

SA's riverwalk is a tourist trap.  
The Mexican food in SA is poor.  Strange, but true.  The locals must be from a poor cuisine area in Mexico.  And yes we know Mexican food.  We even looked for advice from hispanic locals and got chain restaurant suggestions.
SA stadium is awful.  The lesser $ seats were too low to have any view of the action.
The Alamo is overrated.  I read historical accounts before visiting so I made an effort.
Their lone ice rink is part of a bowling alley.
Flights to SA are expensive and inconvenient.
I could go on.

In 2000 we spent a day in Corpus Christi/South Padre Island and had much more fun than the 3 days on the Riverwalk.
In 2008 we spent a day in Galveston and drove across went to dinner, the game, slept in SA, and drove to Houston's airport the next morning.

We looked for the best parts of SA in 2000 and found little.

We will have to agree to disagree on SA.
---------- Original Message ----------
From: "Dennis W. Brandt" <tbng@comcast.net>

<The only thing SA has going for itself is layered margaritas.

Nonsense!  San Antonio is one of my favorite cities because in many regards 
it is more like a small town.  No tall buildings, and there's the Alamo 
sitting midtown.  The Riverwalk is beautiful, and la comida es magn?fico. 
No se permita una actitud tan ?spera hacia San Antonio cuate. 


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From cherron604 at aol.com  Fri Sep  4 11:45:41 2009
From: cherron604 at aol.com (cherron604@aol.com)
Date: Fri Sep  4 11:46:04 2009
Subject: [NU Sports] Bowl swappin ...
In-Reply-To: <bcd.5503679d.37d25a68@aol.com>
References: <bcd.5503679d.37d25a68@aol.com>
Message-ID: <8CBFB9645E506E9-2260-4429@webmail-d036.sysops.aol.com>


As others have mentioned - would like to see Delaney use his considerable talents to swap out Motor City for almost anything.? No Big Ten school wants to go there.? Find us anything outside the Midwest.



Chuck Herron?? Tech '85


-----Original Message-----
From: MHRJGScott@aol.com
To: nwu-sports@tssi.com
Sent: Fri, Sep 4, 2009 6:56 am
Subject: Re: [NU Sports] Bowl swappin ...




Gator swap with champs is ok with me, but SI picks us tied for 4th in the  
T and projects us going to the motor city bowl, sheesh.

eace  























and  Love  
 
n a message dated 9/4/2009 7:12:47 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time,  
bng@comcast.net writes:
<The  only thing SA has going for itself is layered  margaritas.
Nonsense!  San Antonio is one of my favorite cities  because in many 
egards 
t is more like a small town.  No tall  buildings, and there's the Alamo 
itting midtown.  The Riverwalk is  beautiful, and la comida es magn?fico. 
o se permita una actitud tan  ?spera hacia San Antonio cuate.  
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From bwdolphin146 at yahoo.com  Fri Sep  4 13:18:05 2009
From: bwdolphin146 at yahoo.com (bwdolphin146@yahoo.com)
Date: Fri Sep  4 13:18:07 2009
Subject: [NU Sports] San Antonio was great
Message-ID: <853717563-1252088282-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-476152169-@bda846.bisx.prod.on.blackberry>

I much preferred going there than Orlando as the city went -- didn't like dumb dome but city was fabulous. 

Jacksonville, eh, stay in Savannah. Much more interesting. 

Bw
Sent on the Sprint? Now Network from my BlackBerry?

From rstetson at capps-assoc.com  Fri Sep  4 21:36:22 2009
From: rstetson at capps-assoc.com (Roy Lamberton)
Date: Fri Sep  4 21:36:13 2009
Subject: [NU Sports] Chat on Saturday
Message-ID: <003001ca2dd1$a8613c80$f923b580$@com>

Use this link instead of the one on the front of Purple Reign

<a href="http://client1.addonchat.com/sc.php?id=122893">Purple Reign Free
PurpleChat</a>

rsl

++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
Roy S. Lamberton - Senior Associate & Unix Guru.
Computer Applications & Support Associates
-------------------- Also ----------------------
Commissioner Delaware American Legion Baseball
Retired Senior Chief Cryptologic Technician [R]
Northwestern University - Speech 1974 - 
Chi Phi: Pi 1974, KD 1968
Publisher Emeritus: Purple Reign (Fox Sports)
==========  Go Cats -? Beat 'em All  ===========
So...
     How's that "hope" and "Change"
     Working for ya?

Don't re-elect nobody, not even yo mama!
================================================




From sjtruog at yahoo.com  Sat Sep  5 13:09:22 2009
From: sjtruog at yahoo.com (SjT (Stephen J. Truog))
Date: Sat Sep  5 13:09:42 2009
Subject: [NU Sports] So what have we learned?
Message-ID: <6598.5685.qm@web52908.mail.re2.yahoo.com>

(Part I from Saturday ...)

Not too much can be told about this weekend with the cupcake matchups on most Big Ten team schedules (and most schedules nationwide - thanks B(C)S for removing any incentive to schedule good games!). Still, we can take away a few things ...

For Northwestern ...

- Kafka is looking nice and mature as a leader
- The O-line looks good, granted it's Towson, but still, going against Wootten and company every day in Kenosha has toughened them up
- I was going to say that the defense looks in midseason form, but they're slacking off a bit after the 30-0 lead

So yes, it's Towson, but nice to see the Cats rise up and perform like an upper-level Big Ten team should in September. Gotta keep that drive going for a full game, though.

As for what we've learned around the league ...

- IOWA is the Big Ten's version of Ole Miss: Lots of hype based on what they did last year but with little actual reason to expect similar results this year. You had to know they'd struggle to score TDs without Green, but you also had to think the D would do better against UNI.

- SYRACUSE is going to be a tougher game than Cats fans imagined 24 hours ago ... a new coach and new attitude can work wonders for a long dormant team and the Orange are playing with fire against a sloppy Minnesota team. Still a lot of time left for Minny to win, but NU better be ready for the dome in two weeks.

- PURDUE's offense may still have hope of scoring in bunches ... however, their defense still is hopeless (yes, there's a running competition among writers to see who can use the new coach's name the most in Boiler stories this year ... you have to find some way to make Purdue football fun again!).

- New turf at IOWA? Anyone else have grass in the league now?

- PENN STATE has the league's best combo of offensive leader in Clark and defensive leader in Lee and they're playing like it. Why aren't they the favorites again???

- OHIO STATE still needs to unleash Pryor -- they need the O more than ever this year and can't keep hampering him with play calling.

- I really like MSU's transfer QB from Oklahoma. Sparty's gonna be fine without Ringer.

- (From Thursday) INDIANA is not a very good football team.

And finally ...
- The bright glowing red zone of the Big Ten Network is the worst idea in sports television since the glowing hockey puck

More to come after the midday games. GREAT to have college football BACK!

GO CATS!!!
-SjT

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From tbng at comcast.net  Sat Sep  5 14:09:43 2009
From: tbng at comcast.net (Dennis W. Brandt)
Date: Sat Sep  5 14:09:54 2009
Subject: [NU Sports] Cats win!
References: <6598.5685.qm@web52908.mail.re2.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <DA5D5FADDCD34091818E1FAA2DE37F96@DennisMachine>

It took a while for me to write this.  I went blind thanks to the Evanston 
Chainsaw Red Zone Massacre.  Man!  Cool the red color graphics!  We all know 
where the red zone is.

Nice to see the Cats put it to a weaker team, something they rarely have 
done, and great to see the third-string every position in the game without 
injuries to the starters.  One thing for certain: we have depth at running 
back.  The Cats seemed to go to sleep after going up 30 -0, but there is 
little to complain about except, perhaps, for some dumb penalties and a 
not-so-hot kickoff game. 

From draney06 at hotmail.com  Sat Sep  5 14:47:17 2009
From: draney06 at hotmail.com (draney06@hotmail.com)
Date: Sat Sep  5 14:47:51 2009
Subject: [NU Sports] Cats win!
In-Reply-To: <DA5D5FADDCD34091818E1FAA2DE37F96@DennisMachine>
References: <6598.5685.qm@web52908.mail.re2.yahoo.com>
	<DA5D5FADDCD34091818E1FAA2DE37F96@DennisMachine>
Message-ID: <COL123-DS231F3795085EEB71722717CCED0@phx.gbl>

Amen! Well said!

--------------------------------------------------
From: "Dennis W. Brandt" <tbng@comcast.net>
Sent: Saturday, September 05, 2009 2:09 PM
To: <nwu-sports@tssi.com>
Subject: [NU Sports] Cats win!

> It took a while for me to write this.  I went blind thanks to the Evanston 
> Chainsaw Red Zone Massacre.  Man!  Cool the red color graphics!  We all 
> know where the red zone is.
>
> Nice to see the Cats put it to a weaker team, something they rarely have 
> done, and great to see the third-string every position in the game without 
> injuries to the starters.  One thing for certain: we have depth at running 
> back.  The Cats seemed to go to sleep after going up 30 -0, but there is 
> little to complain about except, perhaps, for some dumb penalties and a 
> not-so-hot kickoff game.
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From johnl at mac.com  Sat Sep  5 15:27:33 2009
From: johnl at mac.com (Labbe John)
Date: Sat Sep  5 15:27:44 2009
Subject: [NU Sports] BTN and Comcast
In-Reply-To: <56E1CA2F-27FE-4B83-9CF7-3663EA1F20D8@me.com>
References: <339500.25153.qm@web52909.mail.re2.yahoo.com>
	<866113.19059.qm@web36806.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
	<fcb3ee270909040648h12447b2bpa506e52c13bd407f@mail.gmail.com>
	<56E1CA2F-27FE-4B83-9CF7-3663EA1F20D8@me.com>
Message-ID: <A1D7B1BD-11E1-4988-B9BE-D7D8FFA1480B@mac.com>

You can use the "Game Finder" feature on the Big Ten Network website  
to find the channels for all games for all systems in all areas.  You  
just enter your zip code and select your cable or satellite provider,  
and it gives you a list of games and channels for the upcoming Saturday:

http://www.bigtennetwork.com/gamefinder/index.html


> You can use the "Game Finder" feature on the Big Ten Network website  
> to find the channels for all games for all systems in all areas.   
> You just enter your zip code and select your cable or satellite  
> provider, and it gives you a list of games and channels for the  
> upcoming Saturday:
>
> http://www.bigtennetwork.com/gamefinder/index.html
>
>
>
>
> On Sep 4, 2009, at 8:48 AM, Jonathan Hodges wrote:
>
>> Yes, the BTN and Comcast came to an agreement in August of last  
>> year and it
>> is carried on the lowest cable tier in Big Ten states (minus  
>> Philadelphia),
>> and outside of the Big Ten footprint it's available on Comcast's  
>> Sports and
>> Entertainment Package (extra monthly fee).  I've been watching the  
>> BTN in
>> Evanston on Comcast for over a year now (I have the lowest digital  
>> cable
>> package, "Digital Starter").  Note that there was a possibility  
>> that Comcast
>> could move the BTN to higher level (more costly) cable tiers  
>> starting this
>> year, but that hasn't happened yet.  The BTN website has a ton more
>> information about its availability.
>>
>> Jonathan
>>
>> On Fri, Sep 4, 2009 at 8:41 AM, Jim Leonard <jleonard518@yahoo.com>  
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Happy NU Year's Eve to everyone.
>>>
>>> Does anyone know if Comcast will be carrying the Big Ten Network  
>>> overflow
>>> channels this season?
>>>
>>> Victory & Honor,
>>> Jim
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
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From rstetson at capps-assoc.com  Sat Sep  5 15:46:47 2009
From: rstetson at capps-assoc.com (Roy Lamberton)
Date: Sat Sep  5 15:46:51 2009
Subject: [NU Sports] BTN and Comcast
In-Reply-To: <A1D7B1BD-11E1-4988-B9BE-D7D8FFA1480B@mac.com>
References: <339500.25153.qm@web52909.mail.re2.yahoo.com>	<866113.19059.qm@web36806.mail.mud.yahoo.com>	<fcb3ee270909040648h12447b2bpa506e52c13bd407f@mail.gmail.com>	<56E1CA2F-27FE-4B83-9CF7-3663EA1F20D8@me.com>
	<A1D7B1BD-11E1-4988-B9BE-D7D8FFA1480B@mac.com>
Message-ID: <000301ca2e69$fcba6c00$f62f4400$@com>

I hate to say it, but while Comcast did have all of the games up, the Big 10
Gamefinder had the WRONG channel for every one.

Way to go guys

rsl

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Commissioner Delaware American Legion Baseball
Retired Senior Chief Cryptologic Technician [R]
Northwestern University - Speech 1974 - 
Chi Phi: Pi 1974, KD 1968
Publisher Emeritus: Purple Reign (Fox Sports)
==========  Go Cats -? Beat 'em All  ===========
So...
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-----Original Message-----
From: nwu-sports-bounces@tssi.com [mailto:nwu-sports-bounces@tssi.com] On
Behalf Of Labbe John
Sent: Saturday, September 05, 2009 4:28 PM
To: NU nwu-sports@tssi.com
Subject: Re: [NU Sports] BTN and Comcast

You can use the "Game Finder" feature on the Big Ten Network website  
to find the channels for all games for all systems in all areas.  You  
just enter your zip code and select your cable or satellite provider,  
and it gives you a list of games and channels for the upcoming Saturday:

http://www.bigtennetwork.com/gamefinder/index.html


> You can use the "Game Finder" feature on the Big Ten Network website  
> to find the channels for all games for all systems in all areas.   
> You just enter your zip code and select your cable or satellite  
> provider, and it gives you a list of games and channels for the  
> upcoming Saturday:
>
> http://www.bigtennetwork.com/gamefinder/index.html
>
>
>
>
> On Sep 4, 2009, at 8:48 AM, Jonathan Hodges wrote:
>
>> Yes, the BTN and Comcast came to an agreement in August of last  
>> year and it
>> is carried on the lowest cable tier in Big Ten states (minus  
>> Philadelphia),
>> and outside of the Big Ten footprint it's available on Comcast's  
>> Sports and
>> Entertainment Package (extra monthly fee).  I've been watching the  
>> BTN in
>> Evanston on Comcast for over a year now (I have the lowest digital  
>> cable
>> package, "Digital Starter").  Note that there was a possibility  
>> that Comcast
>> could move the BTN to higher level (more costly) cable tiers  
>> starting this
>> year, but that hasn't happened yet.  The BTN website has a ton more
>> information about its availability.
>>
>> Jonathan
>>
>> On Fri, Sep 4, 2009 at 8:41 AM, Jim Leonard <jleonard518@yahoo.com>  
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Happy NU Year's Eve to everyone.
>>>
>>> Does anyone know if Comcast will be carrying the Big Ten Network  
>>> overflow
>>> channels this season?
>>>
>>> Victory & Honor,
>>> Jim
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> nwu-sports site list
>>> nwu-sports@tssi.com
>>> http://romaine.tssi.com/mailman/listinfo/nwu-sports
>>>
>> _______________________________________________
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From sjtruog at yahoo.com  Sat Sep  5 17:11:14 2009
From: sjtruog at yahoo.com (SjT (Stephen J. Truog))
Date: Sat Sep  5 17:11:20 2009
Subject: [NU Sports] What have we learned? Part II
Message-ID: <20532.65437.qm@web52907.mail.re2.yahoo.com>

>From the afternoon games, we can add to the earlier list ...

- ILLINOIS is still Illinois. There's talent there, but they just don't play together, they are not well coached and they fall apart mentally. All recruiting hype and no results on the field -- call them the Notre Dame of the West. Either that or Mizzou is much, much better than the team that barely beat Northwestern with Maclin, Chase Daniels and company. Sure, maybe that's it.

- MICHIGAN is not still Michigam ... at least the Michigan of last year. They're not back to the traditional maize and blue yet, but they have the energy back and are playing better overall football (not having your heads hanging in shame/bewilderment all game helps). They're going to get a big upset win this year - could be the Irish next week, but something tells me it might be time for the Michigan/OSU rivalry to return to a contest.

So assuming the Badgers take care of business tonight and keep the smug smile on Bielema's face (or is that just an effect from that hot seat?), we have a 10-1 week for the league, but the loss was against the only team who really played a respectable BCS conference foe.

THE GOOD: Penn State, Michigan, Michigan State and Northwestern 
- All four looked sharp against subpar opponents. Still, they didn't let up off the gas and with a lot of new starters for all four teams, played relatively smart and sound football with few mistakes.

THE BAD: Illinois, Indiana, Ohio State
- Two escaped with a win but little dignity and the third couldn't even manage to scrounge up the W in what, given the Illini tendency to fall apart and point fingers, could be a season-defining loss.

THE LUCKY: Iowa and Minnesota
- Sloppy, ugly and lucky to win, but they'll take the W. Iowa's was worse because it was at home and many saw them as a league darkhorse (not me ... I went with the Illini ... yeah, that was smart too :) ). Both need to do some major work before they hit league play.

THE UGLY: The glowing red zone graphic from the Big Ten Network that looked like something out of the early era of technicolor television. This is what the hi-def age brings us? I feel irradiated ... and suddenly see what all the communist conspiracy nuts were shouting about all summer!:) The reds weren't taking over the earth, they were taking over the turf! It's all happening!!! :)

THE ???: Purdue
- They showed a bit more explosiveness than last year, but it was a sloppy victory still and the defense seems to have taken a step back. Still, compared to how the debut went for the new coach of their next opponent (Oregon) went on Thursday, Danny Hope will take it.

Good to see football back! The UGa-Cowpoke game isn't a masterpiece, but it is a hard-fought contest living up to billing. Given the other blowouts on the tube now, I'll take it.

GO CATS!!!
-SjT

* * * * * * * * *
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From tbng at comcast.net  Sat Sep  5 17:59:58 2009
From: tbng at comcast.net (Dennis W. Brandt)
Date: Sat Sep  5 18:00:10 2009
Subject: [NU Sports] Smacking around punters
References: <20532.65437.qm@web52907.mail.re2.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <EA771EF1882A4F4EA81FF800956A97A4@DennisMachine>

Anyone care to 'splain why we didn't get called for roughing the kicker on 
Towson's first punt?  Our guy might have needed surgery to remove the 
punter's spikes from his chest.  Yet, no flag.  I surely do appreciate it, 
Mr. Referee, Sir. 

From jonathanwhodges at gmail.com  Sat Sep  5 18:06:53 2009
From: jonathanwhodges at gmail.com (Jonathan Hodges)
Date: Sat Sep  5 18:07:33 2009
Subject: [NU Sports] Smacking around punters
In-Reply-To: <EA771EF1882A4F4EA81FF800956A97A4@DennisMachine>
References: <20532.65437.qm@web52907.mail.re2.yahoo.com>
	<EA771EF1882A4F4EA81FF800956A97A4@DennisMachine>
Message-ID: <fcb3ee270909051606w4fc0961dj194caef347817279@mail.gmail.com>

A new rule this year is that there's no roughing the kicker if the punter
leaves the "tackle box."  This rule change was made to counter the popular
use of rugby-style punting which has created a competitive advantage for the
kicking team.  I don't remember the exact play, but I assume the punter left
the tackle box.

Jonathan

On Sat, Sep 5, 2009 at 5:59 PM, Dennis W. Brandt <tbng@comcast.net> wrote:

> Anyone care to 'splain why we didn't get called for roughing the kicker on
> Towson's first punt?  Our guy might have needed surgery to remove the
> punter's spikes from his chest.  Yet, no flag.  I surely do appreciate it,
> Mr. Referee, Sir.
> _______________________________________________
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From tbng at comcast.net  Sat Sep  5 19:22:50 2009
From: tbng at comcast.net (Dennis W. Brandt)
Date: Sat Sep  5 19:23:03 2009
Subject: [NU Sports] Smacking around punters
References: <20532.65437.qm@web52907.mail.re2.yahoo.com>
	<EA771EF1882A4F4EA81FF800956A97A4@DennisMachine>
	<fcb3ee270909051606w4fc0961dj194caef347817279@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <FEB87BD360AB4AFB8AE3BCEB33A8EBE1@DennisMachine>

>I don't remember the exact play, but I assume the punter left the tackle box.


I wasn't aware of the rule change, but it didn't apply here.  The punter stepped straight forward to kick the ball.
From tkmaycock at yahoo.com  Sat Sep  5 19:55:09 2009
From: tkmaycock at yahoo.com (Tom Maycock)
Date: Sat Sep  5 19:55:18 2009
Subject: [NU Sports] Smacking around punters
In-Reply-To: <FEB87BD360AB4AFB8AE3BCEB33A8EBE1@DennisMachine>
Message-ID: <73686.71688.qm@web33105.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

> 
> I wasn't aware of the rule change, but it didn't apply
> here.? The punter stepped straight forward to kick the
> ball.

Yep. I saw at least 2 cases where we might have been called for running into the kicker, but in both cases the ref was watching and didn't make the call. The contact was minimal in both cases, and no call seemed like the right call to me although I held my breath a bit both times.

Good, strong game by the Cats. A few mistakes, but they looked well-prepared overall. Kafka was everything I hoped he would be in terms of accuracy and decision-making, and aside from one mistake, Persa looked strong as well. 

Receiving corps looked especially good, making pretty much all the catches.

And Arby Fields showed why he's worked his way up to the #2 spot.

Defense was certainly solid, although it's hard to evaluate them given the opponent (same could be said of the offense of course).

Tom


From neonrye at aol.com  Sun Sep  6 11:54:03 2009
From: neonrye at aol.com (neonrye@aol.com)
Date: Sun Sep  6 11:54:24 2009
Subject: [NU Sports] BTN and Comcast
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Thanks, John, for the tip.



Just checked for next week.? As I suspected, Cablevision is not picking up any of the "extra" BTN channels, so I am in the same "boat" as last year--off to Buffalo Wild Wings to watch 'Cat games when they are on BTN.? Fortunately, NU alums in my area are now going to gather at BWW in Stamford, CT, so I won't have to watch alone, but my disappointment at not being able to watch at home is huge.? Unless 'Cats can move up into national rankings, we will presumably only be "featured" BTN game of the week when we play more recognizable conference opponents, not the Eastern Michigans of the world.? 



Paul Levinson


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You can use the "Game Finder" feature on the Big Ten Network website to find the channels for all games for all systems in all areas. You just enter your zip code and select your cable or satellite provider, and it gives you a list of games and channels for the upcoming Saturday:?
?
http://www.bigtennetwork.com/gamefinder/index.html?
?
> You can use the "Game Finder" feature on the Big Ten Network website > to find the channels for all games for all systems in all areas. > You just enter your zip code and select your cable or satellite > provider, and it gives you a list of games and channels for the > upcoming Saturday:?
>?
> http://www.bigtennetwork.com/gamefinder/index.html?
>?
>?
>?
>?
> On Sep 4, 2009, at 8:48 AM, Jonathan Hodges wrote:?
>?
>> Yes, the BTN and Comcast came to an agreement in August of last >> year and it?
>> is carried on the lowest cable tier in Big Ten states (minus >> Philadelphia),?
>> and outside of the Big Ten footprint it's available on Comcast's >> Sports and?
>> Entertainment Package (extra monthly fee). I've been watching the >> BTN in?
>> Evanston on Comcast for over a year now (I have the lowest digital >> cable?
>> package, "Digital Starter"). Note that there was a possibility >> that Comcast?
>> could move the BTN to higher level (more costly) cable tiers >> starting this?
>> year, but that hasn't happened yet. The BTN website has a ton more?
>> information about its availability.?
>>?
>> Jonathan?
>>?
>> On Fri, Sep 4, 2009 at 8:41 AM, Jim Leonard <jleonard518@yahoo.com> >> wrote:?
>>?
>>> Happy NU Year's Eve to everyone.?
>>>?
>>> Does anyone know if Comcast will be carrying the Big Ten Network >>> overflow?
>>> channels this season??
>>>?
>>> Victory & Honor,?
>>> Jim?
>>>?
>>>?
>>>?
>>>?
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From tbng at comcast.net  Sun Sep  6 13:16:45 2009
From: tbng at comcast.net (Dennis W. Brandt)
Date: Sun Sep  6 13:16:59 2009
Subject: [NU Sports] BTN and Comcast
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<As I suspected, Cablevision is not picking up any of the "extra" BTN 
channels

Repeat after me:  DirecTV, DirecTV, etc.  Say it over and over and soon the 
cableitis will vanish, and you will be watching all the Cat games on the Big 
Ten Network and in glorious HD.

Interestingly and strangely, ESPN broadcast the Alabama/VT game last night 
in glories MONOPHONIC sound.  Mono?  In this day and age?  And a big time 
game at that? 

From tbng at comcast.net  Sun Sep  6 18:57:43 2009
From: tbng at comcast.net (Dennis W. Brandt)
Date: Sun Sep  6 18:57:57 2009
Subject: [NU Sports] Red Zone Chainsaw Massacre
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I just watched a few minutes of the Iowa-Northern Iowa replay on the Big Ten Network.  They had the Honda red zone moment but no red on the field.  One would think they did not alter the replay.  Or was the network just using our game as a feeling-out process for that garish presentation?  Now, had they initiated a movement to change the term to the purple zone, that would have been something!
From tbng at comcast.net  Sun Sep  6 19:16:16 2009
From: tbng at comcast.net (Dennis W. Brandt)
Date: Sun Sep  6 19:16:27 2009
Subject: [NU Sports] Baltimore's opinion
Message-ID: <F60DC362E8994BEAB9A6FD161256AF84@DennisMachine>

>From the Baltimore Sun

"Northwestern was so dominant in the first quarter Saturday, the Wildcats barely had to flip to Chapter 2 of their playbook."
From sjtruog at yahoo.com  Mon Sep  7 22:39:49 2009
From: sjtruog at yahoo.com (SjT (Stephen J. Truog))
Date: Mon Sep  7 22:40:03 2009
Subject: [NU Sports] PIGSKIN PICKS - Week 2
Message-ID: <478982.14727.qm@web52908.mail.re2.yahoo.com>

PIGSKIN PICKS ? WEEK TWO
########################
Hope everyone enjoyed the football feast over the weekend ? aside from being blinded by the Big Ten Network?s new ?red zone? graphic straight out of the early days of color television, it was thoroughly enjoyable to see the Cats finally play like a team that should coast to victory in a cupcake game. Hopefully they continue that through September.

A couple more intriguing matchups this weekend, thanks to some Big Ten ?gotta win to get respect? showdowns with other BCS conferences. We?ll see how the league fares come Sunday.

Picks due by kickoff Thursday!

PIGSKIN PICKS ? WEEK 2
======================
Name: 

BIG TEN
-------
GAME 1: Illinois State @ Illinois
WINNER: 

GAME 2: Western Michigan @ Indiana
WINNER: 

GAME 3: Iowa @ Iowa State
WINNER: 

GAME 4: Notre Dame @ Michigan
WINNER: 

GAME 5: Central Michigan @ Michigan State
WINNER: 

GAME 6: Air Force @ Minnesota
WINNER: 

GAME 7: Southern Cal @ Ohio State
WINNER: 

GAME 8: Syracuse @ Penn State
WINNER: 

GAME 9: Purdue @ Oregon
WINNER: 

GAME 10: Fresno State @ Wisconsin
WINNER: 

NATIONAL
--------
GAME 11: Clemson @ Georgia Tech
WINNER: 

GAME 12: UCLA @ Tennessee
WINNER: 

GAME 13: South Carolina @ Georgia
WINNER: 

GAME 14: North Carolina @ Connecticut
WINNER: 

GAME 15: TCU @ Virginia
WINNER: 

MY PICKS
========
* ILLINOIS 42, Illinois State 17 ? After a pathetic showing last week, the Illini better roll here or their season could be over before it begins.

* WESTERN MICHIGAN 20, Indiana 16 ? Neither team looked good last week and the Hoosiers are at home, but I?m smelling upset.

* IOWA 24, Iowa State 16 ? Another narrow escape for the overrated bumblebees.

* MICHIGAN 38, Notre Dame 31 ? Tough call here as both teams looked slightly better than expected against opening-round creampuffs ? the folks in Provo, Boise and Fort Worth are praying for a Michigan victory so a 10-2 overrated Irish squad doesn?t backdoor into the B(C)S, and I think RichRod?s crew may just be good enough to answer those prayers.

* MICHIGAN STATE 37, Central Michigan 17 ? Could be a close one at the half, but Sparty kicks it in gear for the second half in their Irish tune-up.

* MINNESOTA 28, Air Force 14 ? After looking sloppy last week, the Gophers come out on fire and get a convincing victory to open their sparkling new stadium.

* OHIO STATE 33, Southern Cal 30 ? I feel like Charlie Brown getting ready to kick the football again and Pete Carroll is that blasted Lucy ? still, here I go. I see a high-scoring, mistake-filled game and I?ll go with the experienced quarterback at home over the freshman on the road. If SC is ever going to lose, this is the year and sooner or later the OSU coaches have to let Pryor be Pryor and unleash him, right?

* PENN STATE 45, Syracuse 7 ? All those good feelings from last week disappear in a hurry for the ?Cuse in Happy Valley.

* OREGON 26, Purdue 20 ? The very stoppable force of Oregon?s limp offense meets the extremely moveable object of Purdue?s pushover defense. Flip a coin ? and go with the Quacks at home.

* WISCONSIN 28, Fresno State 23 ? Bucky almost got burned last week after letting up and if this one were at Fresno, I?d like the upset ? but not at Camp Randall.

* GEORGIA TECH 31, Clemson 21 ? Honestly, I could just throw darts at the ACC board this year and have just as much good luck.

* TENNESSEE 23, Ucla 10 ? The Vols get revenge for last year at home.

* GEORGIA 24, South Carolina 7 ? The Dawgs bounce back at home.

* NORTH CAROLINA 37, UConn 21 ? Wish this were a basketball game, but we're low on good national games so an ACC-BigLeast game is it.

* TCU 41, Virginia 14 ? After losing to a FCS foe last week, the Cavs get waxed by the Frogs ? let?s give the Big Least and ACC berths in the B(C)S to the Mountain West and WAC already (and that way we keep them out of OUR Rose Bowl!)

And off the board ?

* NORTHWESTERN 38, Eastern Michigan 17 ? Like the way the offense looked last week ? it?s not an early route this week, but NU pulls away late to get another win.

Picks in Thursday by kickoff!
GO CATS!!!
- SjT

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STEPHEN J. TRUOG
sjtruog@yahoo.com
GO CATS!!!


      

From jonathanwhodges at gmail.com  Tue Sep  8 13:48:36 2009
From: jonathanwhodges at gmail.com (Jonathan Hodges)
Date: Tue Sep  8 13:49:08 2009
Subject: [NU Sports] Smacking around punters
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I watched those punts again, I think they were borderline running into the
kicker (5 yard penalty) calls, but apparently weren't called for one or both
of the following reasons:

- incidental contact
- kicker had reasonable time to regain his balance

I would guess that Fitz saw the fact that it was too close and discussed it
with the offending players in film review.  Typically players going for the
block are taught to move to one side of the kicker and not right at him,
since there is the risk of a roughing penalty that results in an automatic
first down.

Jonathan

On Sat, Sep 5, 2009 at 7:55 PM, Tom Maycock <tkmaycock@yahoo.com> wrote:

> >
> > I wasn't aware of the rule change, but it didn't apply
> > here.  The punter stepped straight forward to kick the
> > ball.
>
> Yep. I saw at least 2 cases where we might have been called for running
> into the kicker, but in both cases the ref was watching and didn't make the
> call. The contact was minimal in both cases, and no call seemed like the
> right call to me although I held my breath a bit both times.
>
> Good, strong game by the Cats. A few mistakes, but they looked
> well-prepared overall. Kafka was everything I hoped he would be in terms of
> accuracy and decision-making, and aside from one mistake, Persa looked
> strong as well.
>
> Receiving corps looked especially good, making pretty much all the catches.
>
> And Arby Fields showed why he's worked his way up to the #2 spot.
>
> Defense was certainly solid, although it's hard to evaluate them given the
> opponent (same could be said of the offense of course).
>
> Tom
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From cherron604 at aol.com  Wed Sep  9 10:11:00 2009
From: cherron604 at aol.com (cherron604@aol.com)
Date: Wed Sep  9 10:11:37 2009
Subject: [NU Sports] Two Contrasting Views, both Positive
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Saw these this morning.? In the first, a Baltimore report has their coach singing our praises (a Top 20 program, a model for their program).? In the second, Fitz is angry, and the players are also...



http://www.pressboxonline.com/story.cfm?id=5196



http://www.dailyherald.com/story/?id=319571



A great day when other schools want to strive to be like us, yet we never stop striving to be better.



Chuck Herron?? Tech '85
From cherron604 at aol.com  Fri Sep 11 13:57:49 2009
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Date: Fri Sep 11 13:58:56 2009
Subject: [NU Sports] PIGSKIN PICKS - Week 2
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No NU List email since Tues 9/8 ?? In football season ?? Anybody else having issues ?



Chuck Herron?? Tech '85




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PIGSKIN PICKS ? WEEK TWO
#######################
ope everyone enjoyed the football feast over the weekend ? aside from being 
linded by the Big Ten Network?s new ?red zone? graphic straight out of the 
arly days of color television, it was thoroughly enjoyable to see the Cats 
inally play like a team that should coast to victory in a cupcake game. 
opefully they continue that through September.
A couple more intriguing matchups this weekend, thanks to some Big Ten ?gotta 
in to get respect
 showdowns with other BCS conferences. We?ll see how the 
eague fares come Sunday.
Picks due by kickoff Thursday!
PIGSKIN PICKS ? WEEK 2
=====================
ame: 
BIG TEN
------
AME 1: Illinois State @ Illinois
INNER: 
GAME 2: Western Michigan @ Indiana
INNER: 
GAME 3: Iowa @ Iowa State
INNER: 
GAME 4: Notre Dame @ Michigan
INNER: 
GAME 5: Central Michigan @ Michigan State
INNER: 
GAME 6: Air Force @ Minnesota
INNER: 
GAME 7: Southern Cal @ Ohio State
INNER: 
GAME 8: Syracuse @ Penn State
INNER: 
GAME 9: Purdue @ Oregon
INNER: 
GAME 10: Fresno State @ Wisconsin
INNER: 
NATIONAL
-------
AME 11: Clemson @ Georgia Tech
INNER: 
GAME 12: UCLA @ Tennessee
INNER: 
GAME 13: South Carolina @ Georgia
INNER: 
GAME 14: North Carolina @ Connecticut
INNER: 
GAME 15: TCU @ Virginia
INNER: 
MY PICKS
=======
 ILLINOIS 42, Illinois State 17 ? After a pathetic showing last week, the 
llini better roll here or their season could be over before it begins.
* WESTERN MICHIGAN 20, Indiana 16 ? Neither team looked good last week and the 
oosiers are at home, but I?m smelling upset.
* IOWA 24, Iowa State 16 ? Another narrow escape for the overrated bumblebees.
* MICHIGAN 38, Notre Dame 31 ? Tough call here as both teams looked slightly 
etter than expected against opening-round creampuffs ? the folks in Provo, 
oise and Fort Worth are praying for a Michigan victory so a 10-2 overrated 
rish s
quad doesn?t backdoor into the B(C)S, and I think RichRod?s crew may just 
e good enough to answer those prayers.
* MICHIGAN STATE 37, Central Michigan 17 ? Could be a close one at the half, but 
party kicks it in gear for the second half in their Irish tune-up.
* MINNESOTA 28, Air Force 14 ? After looking sloppy last week, the Gophers come 
ut on fire and get a convincing victory to open their sparkling new stadium.
* OHIO STATE 33, Southern Cal 30 ? I feel like Charlie Brown getting ready to 
ick the football again and Pete Carroll is that blasted Lucy ? still, here I 
o. I see a high-scoring, mistake-filled game and I?ll go with the experienced 
uarterback at home over the freshman on the road. If SC is ever going to lose, 
his is the year and sooner or later the OSU coaches have to let Pryor be Pryor 
nd unleash him, right?
* PENN STATE 45, Syracuse 7 ? All those good feelings from last week disappear 
n a hurry for the ?Cuse in Happy Valley.
* OREGON 26, Purdue 20 ? The very stoppable force of Oregon?s limp offense meets 
he extremely moveable object of Purdue?s pushover defense. Flip a coin ? and go 
ith the Quacks at home.
* WISCONSIN 28, Fresno State 23 ? Bucky almost got burned last week after 
etting up and if this one were at Fresno, I?d like the upset ? but not at Camp 
andall.
* GEORGIA TECH 31, Clemson 21 ? Honestly, I could ju
st throw darts at the ACC 
oard this year and have just as much good luck.
* TENNESSEE 23, Ucla 10 ? The Vols get revenge for last year at home.
* GEORGIA 24, South Carolina 7 ? The Dawgs bounce back at home.
* NORTH CAROLINA 37, UConn 21 ? Wish this were a basketball game, but we're low 
n good national games so an ACC-BigLeast game is it.
* TCU 41, Virginia 14 ? After losing to a FCS foe last week, the Cavs get waxed 
y the Frogs ? let?s give the Big Least and ACC berths in the B(C)S to the 
ountain West and WAC already (and that way we keep them out of OUR Rose Bowl!)
And off the board ?
* NORTHWESTERN 38, Eastern Michigan 17 ? Like the way the offense looked last 
eek ? it?s not an early route this week, but NU pulls away late to get another 
in.
Picks in Thursday by kickoff!
O CATS!!!
 SjT
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TEPHEN J. TRUOG
jtruog@yahoo.com
O CATS!!!

     
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From jleonard518 at yahoo.com  Sat Sep 12 07:54:11 2009
From: jleonard518 at yahoo.com (Jim Leonard)
Date: Sat Sep 12 07:54:17 2009
Subject: [NU Sports] It's Game Day
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Fellow Wildcat Faithful,

I'll be at Dyche today to see our Cats play EMU. Granted, EMU is not an exciting opponent, but I'll take any chance I can to see the Wildcats play football. I expect we'll put this one away early.

Victory & Honor,
Jim


      

From tbng at comcast.net  Sat Sep 12 08:16:38 2009
From: tbng at comcast.net (Dennis W. Brandt)
Date: Sat Sep 12 08:17:10 2009
Subject: [NU Sports] ATTENTION DirecTV subscribers
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The Cats are on overflow channel 612 today.

From sjtruog at yahoo.com  Sat Sep 12 12:32:17 2009
From: sjtruog at yahoo.com (SjT (Stephen J. Truog))
Date: Sat Sep 12 12:32:58 2009
Subject: [NU Sports] First half thoughts ...
Message-ID: <236578.19402.qm@web52910.mail.re2.yahoo.com>

Another solid half of football from the Cats and it's great to see. Even if the last few minutes got a bit sloppy, we're still dominating a team we should dominate. A few quick hits ...

- The O-line is really doing a nice job and their seal job on some of the runs is excellent.
- The defense is tackling better and flying to the ball better than they have in yeeeeeeeears. Credit Coach Hank!
- I also love the defensive response late - the INT return after EMU got good field position (their punter's having a heck of a day) and the stuff by the goal line after the fumble.

It also looks like Coach McCall is starting to get in a comfortable rhythm as OC, though it's been a bit vanilla (especially in the passing game) so far - hopefully that's just because we're saving stuff for later.

Around the league ...

- Right now, every NU's spidey sense is tingling that next week's game at Syracuse is a gigantic trap for the Cats. The Orange played Minny solid and now have done the same at PENN STATE. Is it sloppiness by the Nits or are the Orange really that improved? Whatever the case, we need to be on full upset alert next week.
- Someone forgot to tell WISKY and MSU that it's "step up Saturday" for the Big Ten, as they're both stinking it up at home on the ESPN channels most of the country is watching as they wait for the big ones in the Big House and the Shoe.
- Actually, the only team looking like they improved from week 1 to week 2 in the league is INDIANA. It's not like we're stepping back or anything, we've looked like a good football team for six straight quarters now ... but you'd expect some steps forward from the likes of IOWA and others.

Oh well, Cats need to come out and drive it down to keep EMU from getting any momentum. Finish strong and then worry about the 'Cuse while the rest of us enjoy two huge games for conference respect in the afternoon.

And since those two games are against the Evil Empire and the cockier than ever freshmen of Spoiled Children, I have no problem shouting GO BLUE! and GO BUCKS! ... offer good for the next 12 hours only.:)

GO CATS!!!
-SjT

* * * * * * * * *
STEPHEN J. TRUOG
sjtruog@yahoo.com
GO CATS!!!


      

From neonrye at aol.com  Sat Sep 12 13:42:34 2009
From: neonrye at aol.com (neonrye@aol.com)
Date: Sat Sep 12 13:42:45 2009
Subject: [NU Sports] First half thoughts ...
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What in the heck is going on here?

Paul Levinspn
Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry

-----Original Message-----
From: "SjT \(Stephen J. Truog\)" <sjtruog@yahoo.com>

Date: Sat, 12 Sep 2009 10:32:17 
To: <nwu-sports@tssi.com>
Subject: [NU Sports] First half thoughts ...


Another solid half of football from the Cats and it's great to see. Even if the last few minutes got a bit sloppy, we're still dominating a team we should dominate. A few quick hits ...

- The O-line is really doing a nice job and their seal job on some of the runs is excellent.
- The defense is tackling better and flying to the ball better than they have in yeeeeeeeears. Credit Coach Hank!
- I also love the defensive response late - the INT return after EMU got good field position (their punter's having a heck of a day) and the stuff by the goal line after the fumble.

It also looks like Coach McCall is starting to get in a comfortable rhythm as OC, though it's been a bit vanilla (especially in the passing game) so far - hopefully that's just because we're saving stuff for later.

Around the league ...

- Right now, every NU's spidey sense is tingling that next week's game at Syracuse is a gigantic trap for the Cats. The Orange played Minny solid and now have done the same at PENN STATE. Is it sloppiness by the Nits or are the Orange really that improved? Whatever the case, we need to be on full upset alert next week.
- Someone forgot to tell WISKY and MSU that it's "step up Saturday" for the Big Ten, as they're both stinking it up at home on the ESPN channels most of the country is watching as they wait for the big ones in the Big House and the Shoe.
- Actually, the only team looking like they improved from week 1 to week 2 in the league is INDIANA. It's not like we're stepping back or anything, we've looked like a good football team for six straight quarters now ... but you'd expect some steps forward from the likes of IOWA and others.

Oh well, Cats need to come out and drive it down to keep EMU from getting any momentum. Finish strong and then worry about the 'Cuse while the rest of us enjoy two huge games for conference respect in the afternoon.

And since those two games are against the Evil Empire and the cockier than ever freshmen of Spoiled Children, I have no problem shouting GO BLUE! and GO BUCKS! ... offer good for the next 12 hours only.:)

GO CATS!!!
-SjT

* * * * * * * * *
STEPHEN J. TRUOG
sjtruog@yahoo.com
GO CATS!!!


      

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From tbng at comcast.net  Sat Sep 12 14:07:19 2009
From: tbng at comcast.net (Dennis W. Brandt)
Date: Sat Sep 12 14:07:49 2009
Subject: [NU Sports] Thank you, Stephan!
Message-ID: <CF161C88673D4890A6D513106D8A5C3B@DennisMachine>

And thank you, Ben for that great interception.  But Fitz, your game plan in the 2nd and 3rd quarters put your team to sleep.  Once up 21 - 3, they looked as if they were running out the clock.  Hopefully they will have learned something as the '95 team did in losing to Miami.  Gotta look better next week.
From sjtruog at yahoo.com  Sat Sep 12 14:32:26 2009
From: sjtruog at yahoo.com (SjT (Stephen J. Truog))
Date: Sat Sep 12 14:32:33 2009
Subject: [NU Sports] One big frickin' "whew" ...
Message-ID: <893431.98088.qm@web52904.mail.re2.yahoo.com>

So much for the six quarters of quality football.

I dunno what happened at the half, but we came out winded on defense and sloppy on offense. We were lucky to win.

Good to be 2-0. But we need some major improvement before Syracuse next week.

About the only good thing in the second half was our special teams - both in return/field position and in Demos' kick at the end.

As for the rest of the early games, they may not have LOOKED like good games on paper, but ...

* INDIANA held on to beat Western Michigan
* The third time was the charm, though, for weather vane Michigan schools as Central Michigan knicked MSU in a heck of a finish. The big question now is whether this is the Sparty of old (or Illini of present) where one tough loss can cascade into an avalanche of defeat.
* IOWA, however, woke up. Ouch.
* PENN STATE didn't exactly blow 'Cuse away, but won handily.
* Finally, WISCONSIN survives a second week over a pesky Bulldog bunch. 

So seeing how some of those other games finished, maybe we should feel lucky.:) Nah, still ticked off and hopefully Fitz and the Cats are as well. They know they let a game they were coasting in nearly get away. That should hopefully get them focused and fired up as we hit the road.

As for the rest of the afternoon, now the feast begins ... Maize & Blue vs. the Golden Domers and OSU-SC (plus what should be an interesting game outdoors in Minneapolis). Enjoy!

GO CATS!!!
-SjT

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STEPHEN J. TRUOG
sjtruog@yahoo.com
GO CATS!!!


      

From rstetson at capps-assoc.com  Sat Sep 12 16:22:59 2009
From: rstetson at capps-assoc.com (Roy Lamberton)
Date: Sat Sep 12 16:22:50 2009
Subject: [NU Sports] So What did you Expect?
Message-ID: <000301ca33ef$341a2750$9c4e75f0$@com>

As I pointed out in my "Random Thoughts" yesterday....

1. EMU could throw the ball when they had to, especially behind that big
O-Line (which I expected to get better from game 1 to game 2). Meanwhile,
they were going to stress the run (again behind that big offensive line)
which they did. (at least at the end of the game when they put up 14)

2. NU still isn't going to show all of their stunts and blitz packages
because the rest of the Big 10 will be taking these films apart to see what
we're going to do once it counts. 

3. Missing McManis is important, so is Hahn. Put them out there and maybe we
don't get penalties for pass interference and the #1 receiver doesn't catch
the ball because the #1 defender is out there. And maybe we get some sacks
because Hahn is a load in the middle.

4. EMU came in to run, and to stop our running. Which they did 5.2 ypc vs
3.9 ypc. BTW, they out gained us per play by about a yard.

5. Once again, Simmons was the guy who toted the rock. Maybe there will be a
"lightning" guy come out of all this but Simmons is going to be "thunder"
this year.

I had a meeting that I had to attend as the Baseball Commissioner - I cam
out and put the game on my phone and watched NU blow a 2 TD lead. I almost
drove off the road when Demos (who is the real deal with 9 pts) won the
game.

On to 'cuse!

rsl

++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
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Computer Applications & Support Associates
-------------------- Also ----------------------
Commissioner Delaware American Legion Baseball
Retired Senior Chief Cryptologic Technician [R]
Northwestern University - Speech 1974 - 
Chi Phi: Pi 1974, KD 1968
Publisher Emeritus: Purple Reign (Fox Sports)
==========  Go Cats -? Beat 'em All  ===========
So...
     How's that "hope" and "Change"
     Working for ya?

Don't re-elect nobody, not even yo mama!
================================================



From jonathanwhodges at gmail.com  Sat Sep 12 17:04:42 2009
From: jonathanwhodges at gmail.com (Jonathan Hodges)
Date: Sat Sep 12 17:05:23 2009
Subject: [NU Sports] So What did you Expect?
In-Reply-To: <000301ca33ef$341a2750$9c4e75f0$@com>
References: <000301ca33ef$341a2750$9c4e75f0$@com>
Message-ID: <fcb3ee270909121504x2e89f6a4o4540ea31571b50ee@mail.gmail.com>

I agree that the loss of McManis and Hahn was a factor in the D's second
half letdown.  Hahn would normally be in the D-Line rotation, so Bryant and
Thomas had a lot more reps (especially when compared to last week when they
played little in the second half).  Meanwhile, the loss of McManis and then
Vaughn late in the 4th quarter forced redshirt freshman Dugar onto the field
at CB.  In any case, no excuse for the poor play against the run.

Regarding NU's running game - the 'Cats plan on using Simmons as "lightning"
and Schmidt as "thunder."  Schmidt has routinely come in as the short
yardage back and done a respectable job (he had 13 carries for 61 yards
today; he had NU's first TD of the season against Towson as well).  We'll
see how effective this RB by committee is against tougher defensive fronts,
but it's chugging along right now.

It seems like NU tried to put things on cruise control a little early and
were trying a little to hard not to show anything to future opponents -
meanwhile EMU literally ran right at NU's weak point on defense and took
advantage of uninspired 2nd half play to make it close.  Thankfully Demos
showed that he has the confidence to go with that leg of his as he nailed a
49 yard FG to win with plenty of room to spare.

Jonathan

On Sat, Sep 12, 2009 at 4:22 PM, Roy Lamberton <rstetson@capps-assoc.com>wrote:

> As I pointed out in my "Random Thoughts" yesterday....
>
> 1. EMU could throw the ball when they had to, especially behind that big
> O-Line (which I expected to get better from game 1 to game 2). Meanwhile,
> they were going to stress the run (again behind that big offensive line)
> which they did. (at least at the end of the game when they put up 14)
>
> 2. NU still isn't going to show all of their stunts and blitz packages
> because the rest of the Big 10 will be taking these films apart to see what
> we're going to do once it counts.
>
> 3. Missing McManis is important, so is Hahn. Put them out there and maybe
> we
> don't get penalties for pass interference and the #1 receiver doesn't catch
> the ball because the #1 defender is out there. And maybe we get some sacks
> because Hahn is a load in the middle.
>
> 4. EMU came in to run, and to stop our running. Which they did 5.2 ypc vs
> 3.9 ypc. BTW, they out gained us per play by about a yard.
>
> 5. Once again, Simmons was the guy who toted the rock. Maybe there will be
> a
> "lightning" guy come out of all this but Simmons is going to be "thunder"
> this year.
>
> I had a meeting that I had to attend as the Baseball Commissioner - I cam
> out and put the game on my phone and watched NU blow a 2 TD lead. I almost
> drove off the road when Demos (who is the real deal with 9 pts) won the
> game.
>
> On to 'cuse!
>
> rsl
>
> ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
> Roy S. Lamberton - Senior Associate & Unix Guru.
> Computer Applications & Support Associates
> -------------------- Also ----------------------
> Commissioner Delaware American Legion Baseball
> Retired Senior Chief Cryptologic Technician [R]
> Northwestern University - Speech 1974 -
> Chi Phi: Pi 1974, KD 1968
> Publisher Emeritus: Purple Reign (Fox Sports)
> ==========  Go Cats -  Beat 'em All  ===========
> So...
>     How's that "hope" and "Change"
>     Working for ya?
>
> Don't re-elect nobody, not even yo mama!
> ================================================
>
>
>
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From sjtruog at yahoo.com  Sat Sep 12 18:24:59 2009
From: sjtruog at yahoo.com (SjT (Stephen J. Truog))
Date: Sat Sep 12 18:25:17 2009
Subject: [NU Sports] Go Blue!
Message-ID: <563669.45710.qm@web52902.mail.re2.yahoo.com>

WILD game in Ann Arbor and for once the luck o' the Irish ain't with Charlie's boys.

Dunno if ND and Michigan are "back" or just two teams with porous defenses, but Michigan certainly has a playmaker QB again in Forcier and it's definitely exciting to watch.

THANK YOU Wolverines, for saving us from endless Notre Dame BCS talk.

Now GO BUCKS!!! I think OSU needs the same style of game - high-scoring, sloppy D with a playmaker QB winning it in the end over a punk QB who likes to talk.

C'mon OSU - do it just to shut the insufferable studio smugness of John Saunders and "The Bachelor" and their anti-Big Ten yapping (the Big XII has seen a top five team drop to a non-BCS conference foe two straight weeks now - no talk of them not being as good as advertised, the SEC loses when they play outside of their comfy home region ... yet all they can talk about is OSU and the gall of them losing to GOOD teams in the top 5 all the time! Ugh!).

Great day for exciting football and as insufferable as RichRod may be, he's still better than Charlie Weis' smug mug and it's a good thing for college football and the Big Ten to have Michigan back in the spotlight.

GO BIG TEN!!!
GO CATS!!!
-SjT


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sjtruog@yahoo.com
GO CATS!!!


      

From Hakirsch at aol.com  Sat Sep 12 19:24:46 2009
From: Hakirsch at aol.com (Hakirsch@aol.com)
Date: Sat Sep 12 19:25:19 2009
Subject: [NU Sports] Go Blue!
Message-ID: <cf8.61defbb7.37dd95ce@aol.com>

For those who didnt watch the game, it seems obvious that Charlie Weiss  is 
a terrible game coach--With a 3 point lead and the ball at his 30  with 3 
minutes left to play,  rather than running the clock down with run plays (or  
forcing the Wolves to call TO ) he chose to have 2 passes (both 
incomplete)---Maybe he was an offensive genius with the Pats, but forget college--he 
needs to go back to the NFL--Or maybe I should just wish he stays at ND--and 
continue to collect the most overpaid salary in college football


Harry
From sjtruog at yahoo.com  Sat Sep 12 19:33:01 2009
From: sjtruog at yahoo.com (SjT (Stephen J. Truog))
Date: Sat Sep 12 19:33:09 2009
Subject: [NU Sports] Go Blue!
In-Reply-To: <cf8.61defbb7.37dd95ce@aol.com>
Message-ID: <187954.39465.qm@web52911.mail.re2.yahoo.com>

I'm hoping Charlie stays in South Bend for life!:)

He had a good game plan coming in, but Michigan clearly made better adjustments and owned the second half aside from the little tightness there late before the final drive. You're right, though, smarter play calling would have at least made Michigan rush more at the end.

OSU had about the worst start imaginable against SC - but they just bounced back with a solid drive ... maybe they are different from the Buckeye teams of recent years who would point fingers at each other when done.

Hopefully it's a good game. Tressel needs to open up a bit and it looks like he has initially at least.

GO CATS!!!
-SjT

* * * * * * * * *
STEPHEN J. TRUOG
sjtruog@yahoo.com
GO CATS!!!




      

From neonrye at aol.com  Sat Sep 12 22:42:41 2009
From: neonrye at aol.com (neonrye@aol.com)
Date: Sat Sep 12 22:43:13 2009
Subject: [NU Sports] Buckeyes-Trojans
Message-ID: <8CC023B61990920-3668-4B64F@webmail-d093.sysops.aol.com>

Well, a game I couldn't root for either side.? But you have to hand it to USC.? An absolutely amazing final drive, with clutch plays by the kid QB and McKnight, and fantastic blocking.? Jim Tressel proved that he is just NOT a big-game coach.? He is tooooooo conservative, and plays not to lose, while Pete Carroll (whom my beloved, idiot Jets fired after one season many years ago) always plays to win.? He takes risks because he believes in his players and his system.? It is inconceivable to me that with the field position that they enjoyed throughout, the Bucks only scored 15, of which 2 were on the gift safety.? tOSU is just as risk-aversive and just as prone to choke as it was back in the day when I was at NU and Woody was their HC.? The only thing that has changed is that the SHOE holds many more people than it used to.? Is it just me, or Terrell Pryor regressing?? He looked more and more tentative as the night went on.?? I think part of the reason is that in Tressel's syst
 em, Pryor is scared to make a mistake, while Matt Barkley was unleashed as the game got into the final stages.? I know that SJT wanted a Big Ten win here, but forgive me for a huge dose of Schadenfrude; I hate the Bucks that much.

Paul Levinson
From jleonard518 at yahoo.com  Sat Sep 12 22:48:08 2009
From: jleonard518 at yahoo.com (Jim Leonard)
Date: Sat Sep 12 22:48:16 2009
Subject: [NU Sports] Buckeyes-Trojans
In-Reply-To: <8CC023B61990920-3668-4B64F@webmail-d093.sysops.aol.com>
Message-ID: <706762.33502.qm@web36808.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

I'm with Paul. I know that a Buckeye win would have been good for the conference, but I don't care. I hate Buckeye fans (collectively). I think we got the best of both worlds, a close game that earns the Big Ten some respect and a Buckeye loss. 

Add in a Cats victory and an ND loss and this has been a pretty good day.

Go Cats!
Jim



--- On Sat, 9/12/09, neonrye@aol.com <neonrye@aol.com> wrote:

> From: neonrye@aol.com <neonrye@aol.com>
> Subject: [NU Sports] Buckeyes-Trojans
> To: nwu-sports@romaine.tssi.com
> Date: Saturday, September 12, 2009, 10:42 PM
> Well, a game I couldn't root for
> either side.? But you have to hand it to USC.? An absolutely
> amazing final drive, with clutch plays by the kid QB and
> McKnight, and fantastic blocking.? Jim Tressel proved that
> he is just NOT a big-game coach.? He is tooooooo
> conservative, and plays not to lose, while Pete Carroll
> (whom my beloved, idiot Jets fired after one season many
> years ago) always plays to win.? He takes risks because he
> believes in his players and his system.? It is inconceivable
> to me that with the field position that they enjoyed
> throughout, the Bucks only scored 15, of which 2 were on the
> gift safety.? tOSU is just as risk-aversive and just as
> prone to choke as it was back in the day when I was at NU
> and Woody was their HC.? The only thing that has changed is
> that the SHOE holds many more people than it used to.? Is it
> just me, or Terrell Pryor regressing?? He looked more and
> more tentative as the night went on.?? I think part of the
> reason is that in Tressel's syst
>  em, Pryor is scared to make a mistake, while Matt Barkley
> was unleashed as the game got into the final stages.? I know
> that SJT wanted a Big Ten win here, but forgive me for a
> huge dose of Schadenfrude; I hate the Bucks that much.
> 
> Paul Levinson
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From sjtruog at yahoo.com  Sat Sep 12 22:55:14 2009
From: sjtruog at yahoo.com (SjT (Stephen J. Truog))
Date: Sat Sep 12 22:55:31 2009
Subject: [NU Sports] Evening edition ...
Message-ID: <426660.5688.qm@web52912.mail.re2.yahoo.com>

You almost want to feel sorry for those Buckeye fans on TV. Almost.

You do feel bad for the Big Ten, though, because it will just give the idiots at ABC a chance to hammer the league more (though the ACC, Big Least and overrated Big XII are far better targets).

Interesting that the one time all night Tressel does NOT go conservative (right before the half) is the one that cost 'em a cheap FG before intermission that wound up being the difference. The rest of the night -- especially the second half -- OSU was dominating on the field but tightened up in scoring range and settled for a field goal. Painful to watch because USC was not playing very well and you won't get a chance like that often.

The other big loser is Penn State because they needed OSU to win out until their match in November to give them a big win. Now even if the Nits go 12-0, it's tough to see them making the title game. Very frustrating to watch as a Big Ten fan. OSU's D held SC to essentially two good drives all game (and the O gave them a TD to start) ... you have to take advantage of that with Pryor and the offense. On that last series with 1:00 left, the Buckeyes looked totally unprepared.

Elsewhere ...

* MINNESOTA is really having trouble scoring - not sure what happened because the dome team had plenty of problems, but scoring was never one of them. A narrow win today and a juggernaut from Cal (the only Pac 10 team to really look impressive so far this year) up next. Ouch!

* ILLINOIS rebounded. Yawn. Especially given how bad Mizzou looked tonight, that loss will haunt the Illini all year.

* PURDUE is either better than expected or the Ducks really, really suck this year.

So a split verdict on step-up weekend for the Big Ten ...

* THE GOOD: Michigan impressed again, Illinois and Iowa bounced back.

* THE BAD: Michigan State blew one, Minnesota looked sloppy again and Penn State was surprisingly lifeless.

* THE UGLY: The red zone graphic (of course) ... and Ohio State's offensive play calling and composure on that final drive (did they not see the 300 Trojans crowding the line waiting to blitz??)

* THE LUCKY: Northwestern, Wisconsin and Indiana all escaped upset bids today, but in different ways. The Cats blew a big lead, the Badgers came from behind and the Hoosiers are giving new life to that classic 1983 White Sox t-shirt: "winnin' ugly." Still, 2-0 is a better place than 1-1 and they'll take it.

* THE ???: Mostly because they're the late game, but still it's tough to get a read on these guys. You gotta be impressed with anyone who can hang in there for a half at Autzen Stadium, but then again, Oregon seems to have lost more than a coach and their composure this year. Surprisingly, though, with the black wings not showing up on TV much, these may be the least offensive Duck uniforms in years for the fashion police!

Great Saturday of football. The SEC can crow all they want from the safety of the south - which they barely leave to play a game - and Florida and Texas can feast on creampuffs until the end of the season, but there's still nothing like a Saturday afternoon in the Big House with midwestern rivals and an evening under the lights in Columbus with a Pac 10 power in town.

GO CATS!!!
-SjT

* * * * * * * * *
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sjtruog@yahoo.com
GO CATS!!!


      

From sjtruog at yahoo.com  Sat Sep 12 23:15:36 2009
From: sjtruog at yahoo.com (SjT (Stephen J. Truog))
Date: Sat Sep 12 23:15:45 2009
Subject: [NU Sports] Buckeyes-Trojans
In-Reply-To: <8CC023B61990920-3668-4B64F@webmail-d093.sysops.aol.com>
Message-ID: <199425.11567.qm@web52904.mail.re2.yahoo.com>

> believes in his players and his system.? It is inconceivable
> to me that with the field position that they enjoyed
> throughout, the Bucks only scored 15, of which 2 were on the

AND they gave the Trojans seven to start the game!

It's amazing to think about how big of an advantage a normal coach would have had in that game.

It's not often that you hold SC to only two legit drives all game (both at the end of the half when they were playing not to lose on D) ... you better take advantage of that and win.

> that SJT wanted a Big Ten win here, but forgive me for a
> huge dose of Schadenfrude; I hate the Bucks that much.

I just want the chuckleheads to shut up.:) The Big XII drops a top 5 team two weeks in a row to non-BCS foes and the SEC gets waxed in their few challenging out-of-league matchups recently (UCLA even wins AT Rocky Top!) ... but they still walk on water and get 10-2 teams in the title game or 5-loss teams in the top 25.

Seriously, though, until we win back that respect, it hurts everyone else in the league. Right now we have two teams ranked (Michigan may sneak in next week) - we should have 4-5. That gives us fewer chances to get a big win and move up ourselves. That gives us fewer contenders for B(C)S bowl slots and more money as a league. That weakens our TV placement negotiations.

Really, it's just a big overreaction ... it's not like OSU's losing to division II teams here, and most of those games were road games ... but the league needs to step up and win these showcase games for all of us to get that respect back. And we need to smack Notre Dame down early and often. Michigan did their part, now Sparty needs to wake up and do the same in South Bend next week.

GO CATS!!!
-SjT


      

From tbng at comcast.net  Sun Sep 13 06:19:59 2009
From: tbng at comcast.net (Dennis W. Brandt)
Date: Sun Sep 13 06:20:18 2009
Subject: [NU Sports] Chainsaw Massacre Red Zone
Message-ID: <240634CB29D1475D818EB8C51A3317D5@DennisMachine>

Someone must have gotten to the Big Ten Network and convinced them how garish that bright red zone was.  It became the Chainsaw Massacre RUST Zone yesterday, and they didn't keep it on as long.  A little easier on the eyes but annoying nonetheless.  Attention Big Ten Network:  We know where the red zone is.  Honest!
From jleonard518 at yahoo.com  Sun Sep 13 11:28:01 2009
From: jleonard518 at yahoo.com (Jim Leonard)
Date: Sun Sep 13 11:28:08 2009
Subject: [NU Sports] Yesterday's video review
In-Reply-To: <240634CB29D1475D818EB8C51A3317D5@DennisMachine>
Message-ID: <590540.1760.qm@web36801.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

Does anyone have a clear explanation of what happened in the second half yesterday when we turned the ball over on the punt? 

It looked like Brendan Smith called for a fair catch and an EMU player interfered with his ability to catch it. That was lame, but it happens. So they give the ball to EMU 1st and 10. EMU runs a play. My understanding is that once you have another snap, the previous play cannot be reviewed. 

So the refs set the ball up for 2nd and 7 (thereby clearly acknowledging that an official play had been run) and THEN say that the punt/turnover play is under review. After the turnover stood, they set it up as EMU's ball 1st and 10 AGAIN. They basically erased a play that occurred on the field. 

I don't understand how that was possible.

Go Cats!
Jim





      

From jason at jasonsinger.com  Sun Sep 13 11:55:37 2009
From: jason at jasonsinger.com (jason)
Date: Sun Sep 13 11:56:12 2009
Subject: [NU Sports] Chainsaw Massacre Red Zone
In-Reply-To: <240634CB29D1475D818EB8C51A3317D5@DennisMachine>
References: <240634CB29D1475D818EB8C51A3317D5@DennisMachine>
Message-ID: <20090913165537.M55186@jasonsinger.com>

They know we know, but Honda is paying them a lot of money to pretend we don't. 

And I forgot to add time to my recording yesterday and missed the last :35 of
the game. I still haven't seen the winning field goal. URGH!!!

Jason Singer
jason@jasonsinger.com




> Someone must have gotten to the Big Ten Network and convinced them 
> how garish that bright red zone was.  It became the Chainsaw 
> Massacre RUST Zone yesterday, and they didn't keep it on as long.  A 
> little easier on the eyes but annoying nonetheless.  Attention Big 
> Ten Network:  We know where the red zone is.  Honest!
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From sjtruog at yahoo.com  Sun Sep 13 12:00:34 2009
From: sjtruog at yahoo.com (SjT (Stephen J. Truog))
Date: Sun Sep 13 12:00:43 2009
Subject: [NU Sports] Yesterday's video review
In-Reply-To: <590540.1760.qm@web36801.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <775220.79520.qm@web52903.mail.re2.yahoo.com>

Technically, it shouldn't be possible but they'll probably use that "we got the buzzer right as the play was going off" argument.

It would be interesting to see how they would have handled that if the play had been more meaningful than a 3-yard run, like a TD or INT.

GO CATS!!!
-SjT

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sjtruog@yahoo.com
GO CATS!!!


--- On Sun, 9/13/09, Jim Leonard <jleonard518@yahoo.com> wrote:

> From: Jim Leonard <jleonard518@yahoo.com>
> Subject: [NU Sports] Yesterday's video review
> To: nwu-sports@tssi.com
> Date: Sunday, September 13, 2009, 9:28 AM
> Does anyone have a clear explanation
> of what happened in the second half yesterday when we turned
> the ball over on the punt? 
> 
> It looked like Brendan Smith called for a fair catch and an
> EMU player interfered with his ability to catch it. That was
> lame, but it happens. So they give the ball to EMU 1st and
> 10. EMU runs a play. My understanding is that once you have
> another snap, the previous play cannot be reviewed. 
> 
> So the refs set the ball up for 2nd and 7 (thereby clearly
> acknowledging that an official play had been run) and THEN
> say that the punt/turnover play is under review. After the
> turnover stood, they set it up as EMU's ball 1st and 10
> AGAIN. They basically erased a play that occurred on the
> field. 
> 
> I don't understand how that was possible.
> 
> Go Cats!
> Jim
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> ? ? ? 
> 
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From thehaze at earthlink.net  Sun Sep 13 12:00:29 2009
From: thehaze at earthlink.net (Jim Bendat)
Date: Sun Sep 13 12:00:56 2009
Subject: [NU Sports] Yesterday's video review
Message-ID: <33106247.1252861229425.JavaMail.root@wamui-bucket.atl.sa.earthlink.net>

Jim, everything you wrote is true. I think the refs screwed up. It would be in keeping with the tenor of the entire broadcast, actually. Before they kicked off, the graphics read, EMU 3, NU 0. Just before we scored our first TD, the graphics went up as EMU 0, NU 6, as if we'd already scored. When we then went into the end zone, the graphics read EMU 0, NU 7 - before we'd kicked an extra point. When we then lined up for the PAT, the graphics read EMU 0, NU 9. -- Jim B.



-----Original Message-----
>From: Jim Leonard <jleonard518@yahoo.com>
>Sent: Sep 13, 2009 12:28 PM
>To: nwu-sports@tssi.com
>Subject: [NU Sports] Yesterday's video review
>
>Does anyone have a clear explanation of what happened in the second half yesterday when we turned the ball over on the punt? 
>
>It looked like Brendan Smith called for a fair catch and an EMU player interfered with his ability to catch it. That was lame, but it happens. So they give the ball to EMU 1st and 10. EMU runs a play. My understanding is that once you have another snap, the previous play cannot be reviewed. 
>
>So the refs set the ball up for 2nd and 7 (thereby clearly acknowledging that an official play had been run) and THEN say that the punt/turnover play is under review. After the turnover stood, they set it up as EMU's ball 1st and 10 AGAIN. They basically erased a play that occurred on the field. 
>
>I don't understand how that was possible.
>
>Go Cats!
>Jim
>
>
>
>
>
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From clzahn at mindspring.com  Sun Sep 13 13:05:35 2009
From: clzahn at mindspring.com (Clark Zahn)
Date: Sun Sep 13 13:06:14 2009
Subject: [NU Sports] Yesterday's video review
In-Reply-To: <590540.1760.qm@web36801.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
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The "halo rule" was repealed and it appeared that an NU blocker caused 
the EMU guy to collide with Brendan

Jim Leonard wrote:
> Does anyone have a clear explanation of what happened in the second half yesterday when we turned the ball over on the punt? 
>
> It looked like Brendan Smith called for a fair catch and an EMU player interfered with his ability to catch it. That was lame, but it happens. So they give the ball to EMU 1st and 10. EMU runs a play. My understanding is that once you have another snap, the previous play cannot be reviewed. 
>
> So the refs set the ball up for 2nd and 7 (thereby clearly acknowledging that an official play had been run) and THEN say that the punt/turnover play is under review. After the turnover stood, they set it up as EMU's ball 1st and 10 AGAIN. They basically erased a play that occurred on the field. 
>
> I don't understand how that was possible.
>
> Go Cats!
> Jim
>
>
>
>   

From bwdolphin146 at yahoo.com  Sun Sep 13 13:28:22 2009
From: bwdolphin146 at yahoo.com (Brad Wilson)
Date: Sun Sep 13 13:28:40 2009
Subject: [NU Sports] thoughts from near disaster
Message-ID: <927545.74526.qm@web51309.mail.re2.yahoo.com>

Had a shot at the end of that one ... and needed it.
My thoughts:
1) the running defense had best get a whole lot better in a hurry. When EMU dominates upfront, look out. 5.5 ypc by EMU? Ralph Bolden could have 200 by halftime.
2) the running ?offense had best get a whole lot better in a hurry. Penn State had, what, 79 rushing yards against Syracuse? With blocking like NU had Saturday, 'Cats won't get half that.?
3) If Hankwitz and McCall were being "vanilla" to not show much, they best not be this week. Syracuse is shaping up as a tough, tough game, now that the Orange have a coach with a clue. Time to put full packages on display.
4) Three turnovers is two too many.?
5) The defense should have some swagger after Johnson's TD and the good stop after the fumble that led to the EMU field goal. Instead it seemed flat and lazy. Is leadership lacking?
6) On the plus side, Simmons looked fine, Demos was huge, Johnson looked like a star and what happened to Michigan State did not happen to NU.
See anybody in Syracuse??
Brad Wilson


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From tbng at comcast.net  Sun Sep 13 14:10:23 2009
From: tbng at comcast.net (Dennis W. Brandt)
Date: Sun Sep 13 14:20:13 2009
Subject: [NU Sports] DeSean Jackson
Message-ID: <53A997FF5CCD4D79817EC33FA555B63B@DennisMachine>

DeSean just did to the Carolina Panthers what he did to the Cats last December, only this time he hot-dogged it into the endzone.  GO EAGLES!
From tbng at comcast.net  Sun Sep 13 14:20:12 2009
From: tbng at comcast.net (Dennis W. Brandt)
Date: Sun Sep 13 14:20:31 2009
Subject: [NU Sports] Oops!
Message-ID: <0FE7A95E65F6451091416DD214A188FE@DennisMachine>

Of course DeSean Jackson did NOT play for Missouri last December.  My bad.
From cyril at alumni.northwestern.edu  Sun Sep 13 14:23:30 2009
From: cyril at alumni.northwestern.edu (Cyril S. Ku)
Date: Sun Sep 13 14:23:37 2009
Subject: [NU Sports] thoughts from near disaster
In-Reply-To: <927545.74526.qm@web51309.mail.re2.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <914400.66332.qm@web53306.mail.re2.yahoo.com>

--- On Sun, 9/13/09, Brad Wilson <bwdolphin146@yahoo.com> wrote:

> See anybody in Syracuse??
> Brad Wilson
> 

I will be at the Syracuse game with another NU alum. We will be in Section 110, Row P, Seat 109 (I was told that Section 110 is the Wildcats Section). Stop by so I can finally meet some of the people on this list. Any pre-game activities that we can join?

Yes, that CATS need to open up the playbook this week.

GO CATS!
Cyril Ku


      

From mlinhardt at netzero.com  Sun Sep 13 14:35:24 2009
From: mlinhardt at netzero.com (mlinhardt@netzero.com)
Date: Sun Sep 13 14:39:08 2009
Subject: [NU Sports] Buckeyes-Trojans
Message-ID: <20090913.143524.5298.0@webmail10.dca.untd.com>

Why does everybody hate the buckeyes?

I went to high school in Kansas and I have no Ohio connection.  

I thought cooper was kind of a butthead, but tressel just wins.  I don't believe he plays dirty and they have been relatively ncaa clean.  The fans are among the most knowledgable.  While in columbus for the night game everybody was friendly and many people were asking how Jeff Backes was doing and knew about everyone of our players from Ohio.  As the tOSU game approaches many of the Ohio newspapers cover our Ohio players.

Michigan fans seem to be predominantly "professional team fans".  In Iowa city we have been f-bombed, mooned, etc. by all ages and sexs.  Purdue fans seem nice at least in '95 when the state troopers could have shot us for storming the field.  Indiana fans seem mixed with the kentucky based ones being a little bit more drunk.  Minnesota fans are similar to NU fans not living and dying based on the outcome.  Wisonsin fans are out-of-control if young and drunk, but sober are fine.  MSU seem okay and PSU we don't have enough experience with to judge.  Illini fans vary.  We have had some give us tickets while we were walking towards the stadium and talking about scalping.  Others deny any interest in football -- basketball is the only sport.  Still others had a hint of rabidness, but generally under control.

We must root for our conference mates especially vs. the team from south bend and against our real rivals(not the SEC) but the Pac-10.

In regards to the game.  Attendance was awful and the second half play was worse.  Schmidt moved ahead of Arby in my opinion, but Simmons is still the number 1.  I liked the plays with Persa.  Our superbacks/tight ends played awful -- too many drops. 

---------- Original Message ----------
From: Jim Leonard <jleonard518@yahoo.com>

I'm with Paul. I know that a Buckeye win would have been good for the conference, but I don't care. I hate Buckeye fans (collectively). I think we got the best of both worlds, a close game that earns the Big Ten some respect and a Buckeye loss. 

Add in a Cats victory and an ND loss and this has been a pretty good day.




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From sjtruog at yahoo.com  Sun Sep 13 14:57:45 2009
From: sjtruog at yahoo.com (SjT (Stephen J. Truog))
Date: Sun Sep 13 14:57:52 2009
Subject: [NU Sports] Buckeyes-Trojans
In-Reply-To: <20090913.143524.5298.0@webmail10.dca.untd.com>
Message-ID: <205903.14225.qm@web52908.mail.re2.yahoo.com>

Well said! However ...

> Why does everybody hate the buckeyes?
> 
I think a lot of it still stems back to Woody Hayes. He was the "bad guy" in the Woody/Bo rivalry for most fans -- especially those outside of Ohio. Bo was the likable legend, Woody the gruff angry old man (both were fantastic football coaches!).

For modern fans, I think a lot of people still associate OSU with the out-of-control Bucks of the John Cooper era, where they were essentially an "SEC team in Big Ten clothing" with brash, cocky athletes (especially at WR - ahead of their time at today's diva position) who didn't really seem to care about classes, respect for the game or class -- it was just an NFL factory.

But I agree that Tressel has changed a lot of that. He came in there and cleaned house a bit, won with class and a team attitude (something they got away from a bit in recent years) and has run a pretty good program. If anything, he's gonna be under fire for being too quiet, conservative clean and safe.

As for their fans - they were pretty insufferable a few years ago but seem to have been humbled a bit as of late.:) Same with Michigan fans -- can't really say the same of Iowa/Wisky fans as they may have been humbled but are drowning their sorrows and often turn out to be mean drunks.:)

> Michigan fans seem to be predominantly "professional team
> fans".? In Iowa city we have been f-bombed, mooned,
> etc. by all ages and sexs.? Purdue fans seem nice at

:) - as I've said many times, you find drunken, crass fratboys everywhere ... but drunken, crass, f-bomb launching grannys seem to be in Madison and Iowa City especially. They can be great fans for home field advantages and no one claps in unison with their band like Badger fans ... but I would not take my kids to either of those stadiums for a game.

As for the other fans - similar experiences except for PSU - even before my brother went there and we just were visiting, I found Nittany Lion fans to be the most knowledgable and most courteous hosts in the league. Besides, you can get the students to do a "white out" ... but where else can you get 100,000+ alums and adult fans to join in??? Fall weekends in Happy Valley are a special experience -- the town is great the night before the game, the atmosphere is unrivaled on gameday and it's just like a giant midwest suburban high school who gets all psyched up on Friday nights for football but it lasts all weekend.

> We must root for our conference mates especially vs. the
> team from south bend and against our real rivals(not the
> SEC) but the Pac-10.

Agreed! Purdue came close last night and we have one more crack with Minny and a surging Cal team next week. But we need more Big Ten-Pac 10 games! And we need to keep beating that school in South Bend so they stay far away from the B(C)S and eventually come to us on our terms. Then we can say no.:)

GO CATS!!!
-SjT


      

From jonathanwhodges at gmail.com  Sun Sep 13 16:28:38 2009
From: jonathanwhodges at gmail.com (Jonathan Hodges)
Date: Sun Sep 13 16:29:22 2009
Subject: [NU Sports] Yesterday's video review
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I'll have to watch the replay because it was really tough to see what
happened live at the game.  It appeared as though the ball hit an NU blocker
(the kick didn't seem to get that close to Smith), followed by an EMU
recovery.  The problem with the kick was that it was so short and there were
multiple NU blockers near the ball where it came down.  The issue seemed to
be that Smith never really made a big effort to approach the ball - if he
would have been closer a fair catch interference call could have been a
possibility, but he was just too far away.

Jonathan

On Sun, Sep 13, 2009 at 1:05 PM, Clark Zahn <clzahn@mindspring.com> wrote:

> The "halo rule" was repealed and it appeared that an NU blocker caused the
> EMU guy to collide with Brendan
>
>
> Jim Leonard wrote:
>
>> Does anyone have a clear explanation of what happened in the second half
>> yesterday when we turned the ball over on the punt?
>> It looked like Brendan Smith called for a fair catch and an EMU player
>> interfered with his ability to catch it. That was lame, but it happens. So
>> they give the ball to EMU 1st and 10. EMU runs a play. My understanding is
>> that once you have another snap, the previous play cannot be reviewed.
>> So the refs set the ball up for 2nd and 7 (thereby clearly acknowledging
>> that an official play had been run) and THEN say that the punt/turnover play
>> is under review. After the turnover stood, they set it up as EMU's ball 1st
>> and 10 AGAIN. They basically erased a play that occurred on the field.
>> I don't understand how that was possible.
>>
>> Go Cats!
>> Jim
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
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From jonathanwhodges at gmail.com  Sun Sep 13 16:32:58 2009
From: jonathanwhodges at gmail.com (Jonathan Hodges)
Date: Sun Sep 13 16:33:27 2009
Subject: [NU Sports] DeSean Jackson
In-Reply-To: <53A997FF5CCD4D79817EC33FA555B63B@DennisMachine>
References: <53A997FF5CCD4D79817EC33FA555B63B@DennisMachine>
Message-ID: <fcb3ee270909131432s650b6e45j24c86bcd2ca02bc@mail.gmail.com>

I assume you're referencing former Mizzou WR/returner Jeremy Maclin, who is
on Philly, but didn't appear in the box score.  DeSean Jackson went to Cal
and came into the NFL a couple of years ago.  But if they can get those two
on the field at the same time once Maclin gets up to NFL speed, they can be
very dangerous.

Jonathan

On Sun, Sep 13, 2009 at 2:10 PM, Dennis W. Brandt <tbng@comcast.net> wrote:

> DeSean just did to the Carolina Panthers what he did to the Cats last
> December, only this time he hot-dogged it into the endzone.  GO EAGLES!
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From tbng at comcast.net  Sun Sep 13 17:31:49 2009
From: tbng at comcast.net (Dennis W. Brandt)
Date: Sun Sep 13 17:32:21 2009
Subject: [NU Sports] Cats v. 'Cuse
Message-ID: <3B8D1289171842049667C580A7DCD1CC@DennisMachine>

Here is the link to sign up for Orange All Access to see the Cats beat the Orangemen this Saturday.  The six-dollar 24-hour pass appears to be audio only.  You'll need the ten-dollar monthly recurring subscription and then cancel it unless you want to be a Syracuse fan for the rest of your life.

http://www.suathletics.com/member/aa_signup.aspx
From rstetson at capps-assoc.com  Sun Sep 13 21:39:25 2009
From: rstetson at capps-assoc.com (Roy Lamberton)
Date: Sun Sep 13 21:39:37 2009
Subject: [NU Sports] Yesterday's video review
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Wilhite in his blog reported that the ball hit Brewer in the "backside" 

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-----Original Message-----
From: nwu-sports-bounces@tssi.com [mailto:nwu-sports-bounces@tssi.com] On
Behalf Of Jonathan Hodges
Sent: Sunday, September 13, 2009 5:29 PM
To: Clark Zahn
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Subject: Re: [NU Sports] Yesterday's video review

I'll have to watch the replay because it was really tough to see what
happened live at the game.  It appeared as though the ball hit an NU blocker
(the kick didn't seem to get that close to Smith), followed by an EMU
recovery.  The problem with the kick was that it was so short and there were
multiple NU blockers near the ball where it came down.  The issue seemed to
be that Smith never really made a big effort to approach the ball - if he
would have been closer a fair catch interference call could have been a
possibility, but he was just too far away.

Jonathan

On Sun, Sep 13, 2009 at 1:05 PM, Clark Zahn <clzahn@mindspring.com> wrote:

> The "halo rule" was repealed and it appeared that an NU blocker caused the
> EMU guy to collide with Brendan
>
>
> Jim Leonard wrote:
>
>> Does anyone have a clear explanation of what happened in the second half
>> yesterday when we turned the ball over on the punt?
>> It looked like Brendan Smith called for a fair catch and an EMU player
>> interfered with his ability to catch it. That was lame, but it happens.
So
>> they give the ball to EMU 1st and 10. EMU runs a play. My understanding
is
>> that once you have another snap, the previous play cannot be reviewed.
>> So the refs set the ball up for 2nd and 7 (thereby clearly acknowledging
>> that an official play had been run) and THEN say that the punt/turnover
play
>> is under review. After the turnover stood, they set it up as EMU's ball
1st
>> and 10 AGAIN. They basically erased a play that occurred on the field.
>> I don't understand how that was possible.
>>
>> Go Cats!
>> Jim
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
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From michael.vance at att.net  Sun Sep 13 22:27:39 2009
From: michael.vance at att.net (Michael Vance)
Date: Sun Sep 13 22:28:07 2009
Subject: [NU Sports] Yesterday's video review
In-Reply-To: <fcb3ee270909131428g5870ac7et9500ec9646ebc96a@mail.gmail.com>
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The other problem is that you can't call a penalty on a replay.  So even 
if the refs missed the call and the EMU guy wasn't blocked into Smith's 
way (I haven't gone back and looked yet), they couldn't call the penalty 
and give the ball to NU.  All they could do at that point was see who it 
hit first and make the appropriate call from there.

I agree that it seemed like an awfully late replay buzz though.  When 
the signal comes down at the last minute, you can usually see the ref 
running in with his arms waving as the ball is snapped and the play 
usually gets blown dead well before it finishes.  This time, the play 
finished and they were spotting the result when all of a sudden it got 
called back.  Once again, I need to go back and watch.

-Michael

Jonathan Hodges wrote:
> I'll have to watch the replay because it was really tough to see what
> happened live at the game.  It appeared as though the ball hit an NU blocker
> (the kick didn't seem to get that close to Smith), followed by an EMU
> recovery.  The problem with the kick was that it was so short and there were
> multiple NU blockers near the ball where it came down.  The issue seemed to
> be that Smith never really made a big effort to approach the ball - if he
> would have been closer a fair catch interference call could have been a
> possibility, but he was just too far away.
>
> Jonathan
>
> On Sun, Sep 13, 2009 at 1:05 PM, Clark Zahn <clzahn@mindspring.com> wrote:
>
>   
>> The "halo rule" was repealed and it appeared that an NU blocker caused the
>> EMU guy to collide with Brendan
>>
>>
>> Jim Leonard wrote:
>>
>>     
>>> Does anyone have a clear explanation of what happened in the second half
>>> yesterday when we turned the ball over on the punt?
>>> It looked like Brendan Smith called for a fair catch and an EMU player
>>> interfered with his ability to catch it. That was lame, but it happens. So
>>> they give the ball to EMU 1st and 10. EMU runs a play. My understanding is
>>> that once you have another snap, the previous play cannot be reviewed.
>>> So the refs set the ball up for 2nd and 7 (thereby clearly acknowledging
>>> that an official play had been run) and THEN say that the punt/turnover play
>>> is under review. After the turnover stood, they set it up as EMU's ball 1st
>>> and 10 AGAIN. They basically erased a play that occurred on the field.
>>> I don't understand how that was possible.
>>>
>>> Go Cats!
>>> Jim
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>       
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From sportsbiz at gmail.com  Mon Sep 14 02:47:58 2009
From: sportsbiz at gmail.com (Sportsbiz)
Date: Mon Sep 14 02:48:19 2009
Subject: [NU Sports] Yesterday's video review
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The replay showed that the EMU player either hit Smith or was in his way
sufficiently to call a penalty for interfering with a fair catch but as
Michael points out, you can't call a penalty on a replay.  I imagine that
the reason the play was disallowed was that the booth had signallled it was
reviewing the play before the ball was put into play while the line judge
put the ball down and the play was run.  The ref then started over after the
booth told him it was OK.  Totally in sync with one of the worst officiated
games I have seen in some time - I think these officials must have been Big
East officials (easily the worst in major college football, a word of
warning for next week,  in a previous life.

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On Sun, Sep 13, 2009 at 11:27 PM, Michael Vance <michael.vance@att.net>wrote:

> The other problem is that you can't call a penalty on a replay.  So even if
> the refs missed the call and the EMU guy wasn't blocked into Smith's way (I
> haven't gone back and looked yet), they couldn't call the penalty and give
> the ball to NU.  All they could do at that point was see who it hit first
> and make the appropriate call from there.
>
> I agree that it seemed like an awfully late replay buzz though.  When the
> signal comes down at the last minute, you can usually see the ref running in
> with his arms waving as the ball is snapped and the play usually gets blown
> dead well before it finishes.  This time, the play finished and they were
> spotting the result when all of a sudden it got called back.  Once again, I
> need to go back and watch.
>
> -Michael
>
>
> Jonathan Hodges wrote:
>
>> I'll have to watch the replay because it was really tough to see what
>> happened live at the game.  It appeared as though the ball hit an NU
>> blocker
>> (the kick didn't seem to get that close to Smith), followed by an EMU
>> recovery.  The problem with the kick was that it was so short and there
>> were
>> multiple NU blockers near the ball where it came down.  The issue seemed
>> to
>> be that Smith never really made a big effort to approach the ball - if he
>> would have been closer a fair catch interference call could have been a
>> possibility, but he was just too far away.
>>
>> Jonathan
>>
>> On Sun, Sep 13, 2009 at 1:05 PM, Clark Zahn <clzahn@mindspring.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>>> The "halo rule" was repealed and it appeared that an NU blocker caused
>>> the
>>> EMU guy to collide with Brendan
>>>
>>>
>>> Jim Leonard wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>> Does anyone have a clear explanation of what happened in the second half
>>>> yesterday when we turned the ball over on the punt?
>>>> It looked like Brendan Smith called for a fair catch and an EMU player
>>>> interfered with his ability to catch it. That was lame, but it happens.
>>>> So
>>>> they give the ball to EMU 1st and 10. EMU runs a play. My understanding
>>>> is
>>>> that once you have another snap, the previous play cannot be reviewed.
>>>> So the refs set the ball up for 2nd and 7 (thereby clearly acknowledging
>>>> that an official play had been run) and THEN say that the punt/turnover
>>>> play
>>>> is under review. After the turnover stood, they set it up as EMU's ball
>>>> 1st
>>>> and 10 AGAIN. They basically erased a play that occurred on the field.
>>>> I don't understand how that was possible.
>>>>
>>>> Go Cats!
>>>> Jim
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
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From rstetson at capps-assoc.com  Mon Sep 14 06:13:51 2009
From: rstetson at capps-assoc.com (Roy Lamberton)
Date: Mon Sep 14 06:14:10 2009
Subject: [NU Sports] The Fumble Saturday
Message-ID: <000f01ca352c$70902b10$51b08130$@com>

I reported the Willhite had said that the ball hit Brewer -it was actually
the Sun Times

rsl

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Computer Applications & Support Associates
-------------------- Also ----------------------
Commissioner Delaware American Legion Baseball
Retired Senior Chief Cryptologic Technician [R]
Northwestern University - Speech 1974 - 
Chi Phi: Pi 1974, KD 1968
Publisher Emeritus: Purple Reign (Fox Sports)
==========  Go Cats -? Beat 'em All  ===========
So...
     How's that "hope" and "Change"
     Working for ya?

Don't re-elect nobody, not even yo mama!
================================================



From e-west at northwestern.edu  Mon Sep 14 09:12:23 2009
From: e-west at northwestern.edu (Eric West)
Date: Mon Sep 14 09:12:52 2009
Subject: [NU Sports] Buckeyes-Trojans
In-Reply-To: <20090913.143524.5298.0@webmail10.dca.untd.com>
References: <20090913.143524.5298.0@webmail10.dca.untd.com>
Message-ID: <4AAE4F47.90608@northwestern.edu>

mlinhardt@netzero.com wrote:
> Why does everybody hate the buckeyes?
>   

Why ask why?

Seriously, though, for me it started in 1995. Everywhere I went, if I 
happened to be wearing a Northwestern T-shirt, I couldn't go twenty feet 
without being accosted by an Ohio State fan telling me how they "would 
have" pulverized us. (This was in CHICAGO, mind you -- not central 
Ohio.) There are a zillion more reasons, but it starts and ends there.

I might as well make my annual assertion that I view every loss by 
another Big Ten team as good for us. I don't care if everyone views our 
conference as weak; being part of the awful ACC in the 1990s never 
seemed to hurt Florida State.


Eric West
e-west@northwestern.edu

From Jeff.Beamsley at covisint.com  Mon Sep 14 09:48:10 2009
From: Jeff.Beamsley at covisint.com (Beamsley, Jeff)
Date: Mon Sep 14 09:48:21 2009
Subject: [NU Sports] Buckeyes-Trojans
In-Reply-To: <4AAE4F47.90608@northwestern.edu>
References: <20090913.143524.5298.0@webmail10.dca.untd.com>
	<4AAE4F47.90608@northwestern.edu>
Message-ID: <E7219AB80B8E354C9A22B0D2CB1EF5AE066FC1DD@nasa-dtw-ex004.nasa.cpwr.corp>

What's wrong with rivalry?

I suggest that it is part of the competitive nature of sport to try to
demonize those who dominate.  

It is also a fairly natural reaction of the dominant to marginalize
those who to aspire to change the pecking order.

Jeff 


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mlinhardt@netzero.com wrote:
> Why does everybody hate the buckeyes?
>   

Why ask why?

Seriously, though, for me it started in 1995. Everywhere I went, if I
happened to be wearing a Northwestern T-shirt, I couldn't go twenty feet
without being accosted by an Ohio State fan telling me how they "would
have" pulverized us. (This was in CHICAGO, mind you -- not central
Ohio.) There are a zillion more reasons, but it starts and ends there.

I might as well make my annual assertion that I view every loss by
another Big Ten team as good for us. I don't care if everyone views our
conference as weak; being part of the awful ACC in the 1990s never
seemed to hurt Florida State.


Eric West
e-west@northwestern.edu

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From Alan.Abrahamson at nbcsports.com  Mon Sep 14 10:08:23 2009
From: Alan.Abrahamson at nbcsports.com (Abrahamson, Alan (NBC Universal))
Date: Mon Sep 14 10:09:22 2009
Subject: [NU Sports] Buckeyes-Trojans
In-Reply-To: <4AAE4F47.90608@northwestern.edu>
References: <20090913.143524.5298.0@webmail10.dca.untd.com>
	<4AAE4F47.90608@northwestern.edu>
Message-ID: <33C4F11DF8639640A51C79CB484166FF0AE460BF@RKFMLVEM02.e2k.ad.ge.com>

I hereby provide my annual assertion as well that every other team in
the Big Ten can lose every game they play, and I would be thrilled.

Just as a for instance -- let's say Iowa had lost one more game than we
had last year. Who would have gone to the Florida bowl in that instance?


Because the Big Ten teams are (more or less) assigned to bowls one
through six based on the order of finish, every non-conference loss by
every other Big Ten team is a good thing for Northwestern.

As for the assertion that it's bad for Big Ten teams to lose out of
conference because, gee, then the prestige of the conference might be
eroded and thus Ohio State or Penn State would face longer odds in
getting to play for the national championship -- big whoop. I could
seriously care less. 



-----Original Message-----
From: nwu-sports-bounces@tssi.com [mailto:nwu-sports-bounces@tssi.com]
On Behalf Of Eric West
Sent: Monday, September 14, 2009 7:12 AM
To: nwu-sports@tssi.com
Subject: Re: [NU Sports] Buckeyes-Trojans

mlinhardt@netzero.com wrote:
> Why does everybody hate the buckeyes?
>   

Why ask why?

Seriously, though, for me it started in 1995. Everywhere I went, if I 
happened to be wearing a Northwestern T-shirt, I couldn't go twenty feet

without being accosted by an Ohio State fan telling me how they "would 
have" pulverized us. (This was in CHICAGO, mind you -- not central 
Ohio.) There are a zillion more reasons, but it starts and ends there.

I might as well make my annual assertion that I view every loss by 
another Big Ten team as good for us. I don't care if everyone views our 
conference as weak; being part of the awful ACC in the 1990s never 
seemed to hurt Florida State.


Eric West
e-west@northwestern.edu

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From jonathanwhodges at gmail.com  Mon Sep 14 11:28:22 2009
From: jonathanwhodges at gmail.com (Jonathan Hodges)
Date: Mon Sep 14 11:28:51 2009
Subject: [NU Sports] Cats v. 'Cuse
In-Reply-To: <3B8D1289171842049667C580A7DCD1CC@DennisMachine>
References: <3B8D1289171842049667C580A7DCD1CC@DennisMachine>
Message-ID: <fcb3ee270909140928g27b4c8cdx828708698c5aca3f@mail.gmail.com>

NU game release is now up:
http://nusports.cstv.com/sports/m-footbl/spec-rel/091409aaf.html and
confirms that the game is only on All Access.  It specifically says that the
24 hour pass DOES have access to the game, though.  Make sure you don't sign
up until Saturday, though, if you're going with the 24 hour option as the
clock starts when you sign up.

Jonathan

On Sun, Sep 13, 2009 at 5:31 PM, Dennis W. Brandt <tbng@comcast.net> wrote:

> Here is the link to sign up for Orange All Access to see the Cats beat the
> Orangemen this Saturday.  The six-dollar 24-hour pass appears to be audio
> only.  You'll need the ten-dollar monthly recurring subscription and then
> cancel it unless you want to be a Syracuse fan for the rest of your life.
>
> http://www.suathletics.com/member/aa_signup.aspx
> _______________________________________________
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From rstetson at capps-assoc.com  Mon Sep 14 13:56:23 2009
From: rstetson at capps-assoc.com (Roy Lamberton)
Date: Mon Sep 14 13:56:46 2009
Subject: [NU Sports] Where do the Bands Sit?
Message-ID: <000001ca356d$0e3fa580$2abef080$@com>

All you NUMBalums - where abouts do the Bands sit in the various Big 10
Stadii?

We have a principal here who claims to be from Michigan and who claims they
sit inside the goal lines. (he also claims they make the visiting band stand
in the end zone).

But seriously, I thought the bands were all next to the student sections
outside of the 10 yard line....

Where do they sit?

rsl

++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
Roy S. Lamberton - Senior Associate & Unix Guru.
Computer Applications & Support Associates
-------------------- Also ----------------------
Commissioner Delaware American Legion Baseball
Retired Senior Chief Cryptologic Technician [R]
Northwestern University - Speech 1974 - 
Chi Phi: Pi 1974, KD 1968
Publisher Emeritus: Purple Reign (Fox Sports)
==========  Go Cats -? Beat 'em All  ===========
So...
     How's that "hope" and "Change"
     Working for ya?

Don't re-elect nobody, not even yo mama!
================================================



From jonathanwhodges at gmail.com  Mon Sep 14 14:15:26 2009
From: jonathanwhodges at gmail.com (Jonathan Hodges)
Date: Mon Sep 14 14:15:55 2009
Subject: [NU Sports] Where do the Bands Sit?
In-Reply-To: <000001ca356d$0e3fa580$2abef080$@com>
References: <000001ca356d$0e3fa580$2abef080$@com>
Message-ID: <fcb3ee270909141215h4544ea8eubd4da5c942b9940a@mail.gmail.com>

Here are the ones that I know of (I'm not positive about a few of these but
I'll do my best):

Michigan - sit opposite of the student section (which actually curves around
the northwest corner of the stadium) on the northeast side at around the
goal line.  The opposing band is located on bleachers at the field level on
the southeast side at around the 10 yard line (NUMB visited in 2004 and
2008).

Ohio State - sits in the south end zone, with the student section directly
behind them.

Penn State - I think they sit in the end zone directly adjoining the student
section (which is in the southeast corner).

Wisconsin - is on field level in the end zone directly below the student
section (north end).

Minnesota - used to sit in the end zone in the Metrodome; not sure where
they're at in the new stadium.

Illinois - sit in the end zone in the newly constructed north end zone
section, below the scoreboard.  The student section is directly above them.
The opposing band sits at about the 10 yard line in the southeast corner
(NUMB visited in 2007).

Iowa - I believe they sit in the south end zone, but I'm not positive.  I
know that when NUMB visited in 2000 we sat in the north end zone.

Indiana - I believe they sit directly below the student section on the
southeast side at about the 20 yard line, similar to NUMB.  When NUMB last
visited we sat in the south end zone (which has now been reconstructed).

Purdue - I don't remember very well where they sat but I think it was the
north end zone (bowl portion).  NUMB sat in the south end zone bleachers.

Michigan State - Don't remember them very well, either, but I think they sit
on the west side at one of the ends.

I will check into the ones that I'm not sure about.  Assuming this concerns
being able to better hear NUMB relative to other Big Ten bands, note that
other schools don't have as pronounced of a "home side" (west stands) which
also contain the band.  Also, Ryan Field is one of the most "open" Big Ten
stadiums - most of the others are basically fully enclosed, helping to keep
the sound in the stadium.  And, of course, with the other bands being larger
that also helps the sound in the stands (note that OSU and Michigan have
portions of the band that don't march but play in the stands).

Jonathan

On Mon, Sep 14, 2009 at 1:56 PM, Roy Lamberton <rstetson@capps-assoc.com>wrote:

> All you NUMBalums - where abouts do the Bands sit in the various Big 10
> Stadii?
>
> We have a principal here who claims to be from Michigan and who claims they
> sit inside the goal lines. (he also claims they make the visiting band
> stand
> in the end zone).
>
> But seriously, I thought the bands were all next to the student sections
> outside of the 10 yard line....
>
> Where do they sit?
>
> rsl
>
> ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
> Roy S. Lamberton - Senior Associate & Unix Guru.
> Computer Applications & Support Associates
> -------------------- Also ----------------------
> Commissioner Delaware American Legion Baseball
> Retired Senior Chief Cryptologic Technician [R]
> Northwestern University - Speech 1974 -
> Chi Phi: Pi 1974, KD 1968
> Publisher Emeritus: Purple Reign (Fox Sports)
> ==========  Go Cats -  Beat 'em All  ===========
> So...
>     How's that "hope" and "Change"
>     Working for ya?
>
> Don't re-elect nobody, not even yo mama!
> ================================================
>
>
>
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From tbng at comcast.net  Mon Sep 14 14:48:07 2009
From: tbng at comcast.net (Dennis W. Brandt)
Date: Mon Sep 14 14:48:29 2009
Subject: [NU Sports] Cats v. 'Cuse
References: <3B8D1289171842049667C580A7DCD1CC@DennisMachine>
	<fcb3ee270909140928g27b4c8cdx828708698c5aca3f@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <4F76D71A710E415399C3D14E42399E41@DennisMachine>

But does the 24-hour pass have access to the video of the game or just audio?  My impression was that it was just audio.
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Jonathan Hodges 
  To: Dennis W. Brandt 
  Cc: nwu-sports@tssi.com 
  Sent: Monday, September 14, 2009 12:28 PM
  Subject: Re: [NU Sports] Cats v. 'Cuse


  NU game release is now up: http://nusports.cstv.com/sports/m-footbl/spec-rel/091409aaf.html and confirms that the game is only on All Access.  It specifically says that the 24 hour pass DOES have access to the game, though.  Make sure you don't sign up until Saturday, though, if you're going with the 24 hour option as the clock starts when you sign up.

  Jonathan


  On Sun, Sep 13, 2009 at 5:31 PM, Dennis W. Brandt <tbng@comcast.net> wrote:

    Here is the link to sign up for Orange All Access to see the Cats beat the Orangemen this Saturday.  The six-dollar 24-hour pass appears to be audio only.  You'll need the ten-dollar monthly recurring subscription and then cancel it unless you want to be a Syracuse fan for the rest of your life.

    http://www.suathletics.com/member/aa_signup.aspx
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From tbng at comcast.net  Mon Sep 14 14:49:00 2009
From: tbng at comcast.net (Dennis W. Brandt)
Date: Mon Sep 14 14:49:21 2009
Subject: [NU Sports] Where do the Bands Sit?
References: <000001ca356d$0e3fa580$2abef080$@com>
Message-ID: <1E902A74825D47FBB6CBCA4306D2D551@DennisMachine>

Penn State Blue Band sits in the endzone.

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Roy Lamberton" <rstetson@capps-assoc.com>
To: <nwu-sports@tssi.com>
Sent: Monday, September 14, 2009 2:56 PM
Subject: [NU Sports] Where do the Bands Sit?


> All you NUMBalums - where abouts do the Bands sit in the various Big 10
> Stadii?
>
> We have a principal here who claims to be from Michigan and who claims 
> they
> sit inside the goal lines. (he also claims they make the visiting band 
> stand
> in the end zone).
>
> But seriously, I thought the bands were all next to the student sections
> outside of the 10 yard line....
>
> Where do they sit?
>
> rsl
>
> ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
> Roy S. Lamberton - Senior Associate & Unix Guru.
> Computer Applications & Support Associates
> -------------------- Also ----------------------
> Commissioner Delaware American Legion Baseball
> Retired Senior Chief Cryptologic Technician [R]
> Northwestern University - Speech 1974 -
> Chi Phi: Pi 1974, KD 1968
> Publisher Emeritus: Purple Reign (Fox Sports)
> ==========  Go Cats - Beat 'em All  ===========
> So...
>     How's that "hope" and "Change"
>     Working for ya?
>
> Don't re-elect nobody, not even yo mama!
> ================================================
>
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> nwu-sports site list
> nwu-sports@tssi.com
> http://romaine.tssi.com/mailman/listinfo/nwu-sports
> 

From jonathanwhodges at gmail.com  Mon Sep 14 16:20:26 2009
From: jonathanwhodges at gmail.com (Jonathan Hodges)
Date: Mon Sep 14 16:21:10 2009
Subject: [NU Sports] Cats v. 'Cuse
In-Reply-To: <4F76D71A710E415399C3D14E42399E41@DennisMachine>
References: <3B8D1289171842049667C580A7DCD1CC@DennisMachine> 
	<fcb3ee270909140928g27b4c8cdx828708698c5aca3f@mail.gmail.com> 
	<4F76D71A710E415399C3D14E42399E41@DennisMachine>
Message-ID: <fcb3ee270909141420n151f83fby853156e5f363c034@mail.gmail.com>

I asked the NU athletic department and they confirmed (via Twitter) that the
24 hour pass does indeed include video.

Jonathan

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On Mon, Sep 14, 2009 at 2:48 PM, Dennis W. Brandt <tbng@comcast.net> wrote:

> But does the 24-hour pass have access to the video of the game or just
> audio?  My impression was that it was just audio.
>   ----- Original Message -----
>  From: Jonathan Hodges
>  To: Dennis W. Brandt
>  Cc: nwu-sports@tssi.com
>  Sent: Monday, September 14, 2009 12:28 PM
>  Subject: Re: [NU Sports] Cats v. 'Cuse
>
>
>  NU game release is now up:
> http://nusports.cstv.com/sports/m-footbl/spec-rel/091409aaf.html and
> confirms that the game is only on All Access.  It specifically says that the
> 24 hour pass DOES have access to the game, though.  Make sure you don't sign
> up until Saturday, though, if you're going with the 24 hour option as the
> clock starts when you sign up.
>
>  Jonathan
>
>
>  On Sun, Sep 13, 2009 at 5:31 PM, Dennis W. Brandt <tbng@comcast.net>
> wrote:
>
>    Here is the link to sign up for Orange All Access to see the Cats beat
> the Orangemen this Saturday.  The six-dollar 24-hour pass appears to be
> audio only.  You'll need the ten-dollar monthly recurring subscription and
> then cancel it unless you want to be a Syracuse fan for the rest of your
> life.
>
>    http://www.suathletics.com/member/aa_signup.aspx
>    _______________________________________________
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>
>
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From sjtruog at yahoo.com  Tue Sep 15 00:35:12 2009
From: sjtruog at yahoo.com (SjT (Stephen J. Truog))
Date: Tue Sep 15 00:35:34 2009
Subject: [NU Sports] Buckeyes-Trojans
In-Reply-To: <33C4F11DF8639640A51C79CB484166FF0AE460BF@RKFMLVEM02.e2k.ad.ge.com>
Message-ID: <743200.70286.qm@web52907.mail.re2.yahoo.com>

> I might as well make my annual assertion that I view every
> loss by another Big Ten team as good for us. I don't care if
> everyone views our conference as weak; being part of the
> awful ACC in the 1990s never seemed to hurt Florida State.

Well, that was a pretty different scenario. FSU came into the conference with a great rep from their bucketful of 10-1 years (daggum Miami!), so they didn't need to earn respect. In fact, you could say that a mediocre ACC has dragged down FSU's once mighty rep significantly.

NU doesn't have FSU's history. Winning a strong league helps our bowl position much more than winning one perceived as weak (or even going 9-3 or 10-2 in a "weak" league, not being in the top 25 and not earning recognition).

> I hereby provide my annual assertion
> as well that every other team in
> the Big Ten can lose every game they play, and I would be

:) - well, normally I wouldn't argue too much - but the OSU/USC game was built up with so much hype nationally that the rep of the league was also on the line there.

Again, not my rules - and not fair. No one bashes the SEC because Tennessee loses to UCLA two years straight, gets waxed at Cal or UGa loses to OkieState. No one denegrates the Big XII because OU drops games against Boise State, West Virginia and BYU or when Okie State loses to Houston.

But for some reason (cough... John Saunders and the dimwitted bachelor ...cough), our fortunes seem to be tied to OSU. Nevermind that they're losing close games against top 5 teams, their losses somehow mean that the Big Ten is a weak league. PSU and OSU will be underranked in the polls all year after this and as we saw with Michigan (#25 in one poll, not ranked in another), a third team is going to have to beat PSU/OSU or go 11-1 to get ranked and some respect.

> Just as a for instance -- let's say Iowa had lost one more
> game than we
> had last year. Who would have gone to the Florida bowl in

They did. And they still went ahead of us. And they will forever until we earn respect. Beating Iowa on the field didn't get that. Going 10-2 in a weak league won't get that. Going 10-2 in a strong league or winning a bowl game will get that.

Look at our 9-win seasons in '96 and '08. When the Big Ten was seen as strong, we were highly ranked (even though we lost to OSU in '96 and didn't play OSU) ... last year, we barely got noticed.

> Because the Big Ten teams are (more or less) assigned to
> bowls one
> through six based on the order of finish, every

How often has THAT happened in the last decade???

If every team we play in league play is perceived as weak, we don't get a chance to earn that respect -- that's why we needed an OSU win. Or a Purdue win at Autzen. Or an MSU win in South Bend this weekend. And plenty of bowl wins in the SEC's backyard (though that Michigan smackdown of the glass-jawed Gators in Orlando seems to be conveniently forgotten in all this Big Ten bashing ... because OSU lost to LSU and USC on the road??? And now last-minute losses to #2 Texas and #3 USC???).

Besides, as competitors we should want to beat the best. I wanted to play OSU in 1995 (maybe not '96 :) ) - we had a team that would have matched up quite well with them. I want to win the Big Ten and have it be a worthwhile accomplishment. I understand why we play the NC schedule we do (it's smart under the stupid B(C)S system) ... but a narrow win over EMU doesn't mean a fraction of as much as a narrow win over a top 10 ranked Michigan or OSU or PSU.

GO CATS!!!
And for a couple more weeks at least, GO BIG TEN!!!:)
-SjT


      

From mlinhardt at netzero.com  Tue Sep 15 06:56:01 2009
From: mlinhardt at netzero.com (mlinhardt@netzero.com)
Date: Tue Sep 15 06:58:11 2009
Subject: [NU Sports] Cats v. 'Cuse
Message-ID: <20090915.065601.4981.2@webmail03.dca.untd.com>

Shouldn't it be part of the away game contract that those games must be televised?

I would not schedule a future home-and-home series with anybody who can't get TV coverage.

If they can't provide coverage we should have the option at their(Syracuse) expense to bring the Big Ten network out to cover the game.

---------- Original Message ----------
I asked the NU athletic department and they confirmed (via Twitter) that the
24 hour pass does indeed include video.

Jonathan

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From tbng at comcast.net  Tue Sep 15 07:00:47 2009
From: tbng at comcast.net (Dennis W. Brandt)
Date: Tue Sep 15 07:01:08 2009
Subject: [NU Sports] Cats v. 'Cuse
References: <20090915.065601.4981.2@webmail03.dca.untd.com>
Message-ID: <8FD7BE773ABA4F77940129AC79F4A43D@DennisMachine>

> If they can't provide coverage we should have the option at 
> their(Syracuse) expense to bring the Big Ten network out to cover the 
> game.

Right on!  Power to the Purple!  It's crazy not to televise every game in 
this day and age. 

From sportsbiz at gmail.com  Tue Sep 15 07:41:05 2009
From: sportsbiz at gmail.com (Sportsbiz)
Date: Tue Sep 15 07:42:11 2009
Subject: [NU Sports] Cats v. 'Cuse
In-Reply-To: <8FD7BE773ABA4F77940129AC79F4A43D@DennisMachine>
References: <20090915.065601.4981.2@webmail03.dca.untd.com>
	<8FD7BE773ABA4F77940129AC79F4A43D@DennisMachine>
Message-ID: <223fce250909150541m5c1bcc2bi7c23b50fc0ee873b@mail.gmail.com>

It's a great sentiment, but it's not practical as most television contracts
these days are now in the hands of the conferences and not the member
institutions, leaving the school's little to no room to maneuver.  For
example, if the situation were reversed and the game was in Evanston and on
the BTN, which happened not to be carried by the local cable company in
Syracuse, there would be nothing NU or anyone else could do to get it picked
up there if the BTN chose not to allow it.  The BTN could have any number of
reasons for choosing not to show the game, but just to choose one, as was
the case with Comcast previously, it was pressuring the local cable company
to start carrying the BTN and was using local fan outrage as a bargaining
tool.

Mark

Mark S. Ament
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On Tue, Sep 15, 2009 at 8:00 AM, Dennis W. Brandt <tbng@comcast.net> wrote:

> If they can't provide coverage we should have the option at their(Syracuse)
>> expense to bring the Big Ten network out to cover the game.
>>
>
> Right on!  Power to the Purple!  It's crazy not to televise every game in
> this day and age.
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From tbng at comcast.net  Tue Sep 15 08:15:49 2009
From: tbng at comcast.net (Dennis W. Brandt)
Date: Tue Sep 15 08:16:11 2009
Subject: [NU Sports] Cats v. 'Cuse
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<It's a great sentiment, but it's not practical as most television contracts these days are now in the hands of the conferences and not the member institutions, <leaving the school's little to no room to maneuver.  For example, if the situation were reversed and the game was in Evanston and on the BTN, which happened <not to be carried by the local cable company in Syracuse, there would be nothing NU or anyone else could do to get it picked up there if the BTN chose not to <allow it.  The BTN could have any number of reasons for choosing not to show the game, but just to choose one, as was the case with Comcast previously, it <was pressuring the local cable company to start carrying the BTN and was using local fan outrage as a bargaining tool.

But in this case, the game is not being televised anywhere except on the Internet.  It should be that if a game is not telecast by the home team's television network, then the other team's network gets the opportunity.  It would be in Syracuse's and the Big East's best interests to allow the game to be televised.
From clzahn at mindspring.com  Tue Sep 15 09:55:11 2009
From: clzahn at mindspring.com (Clark Zahn)
Date: Tue Sep 15 09:55:40 2009
Subject: [NU Sports] Cats v. 'Cuse
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Dennis W. Brandt wrote:
> <It's a great sentiment, but it's not practical as most television contracts these days are now in the hands of the conferences and not the member institutions, <leaving the school's little to no room to maneuver.  For example, if the situation were reversed and the game was in Evanston and on the BTN, which happened <not to be carried by the local cable company in Syracuse, there would be nothing NU or anyone else could do to get it picked up there if the BTN chose not to <allow it.  The BTN could have any number of reasons for choosing not to show the game, but just to choose one, as was the case with Comcast previously, it <was pressuring the local cable company to start carrying the BTN and was using local fan outrage as a bargaining tool.
>
> But in this case, the game is not being televised anywhere except on the Internet.  It should be that if a game is not telecast by the home team's television network, then the other team's network gets the opportunity.  It would be in Syracuse's and the Big East's best interests to allow the game to be televised.
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The game is being telecast on the local Time Warner sports channel.  The 
game was just not picked  up by anyone else.  I don't know whether or 
not Time Warner made it available.

Clark Zahn

From mlinhardt at netzero.com  Tue Sep 15 10:10:37 2009
From: mlinhardt at netzero.com (mlinhardt@netzero.com)
Date: Tue Sep 15 10:13:53 2009
Subject: [NU Sports] Cats v. 'Cuse
Message-ID: <20090915.101037.28231.0@webmail05.dca.untd.com>

The Big Ten network is accessible at most quality sports bars throughout the nation.  No you can't buy it with some cable systems in some areas, but you can find a place that has it.

If the syracuse game were on television even on a rinky-dink local network you could find it at some sports bar in Chicagoland.

The Big Least is a disgrace as a conference if they can't get a TV crew to a vs. BCS opponent game.

I just think we should insist that if you want a Big Ten team to travel your conference MUST provide TV coverage.

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It's a great sentiment, but it's not practical as most television contracts
these days are now in the hands of the conferences and not the member
institutions, leaving the school's little to no room to maneuver.  For
example, if the situation were reversed and the game was in Evanston and on
the BTN, which happened not to be carried by the local cable company in
Syracuse, there would be nothing NU or anyone else could do to get it picked
up there if the BTN chose not to allow it.  The BTN could have any number of
reasons for choosing not to show the game, but just to choose one, as was
the case with Comcast previously, it was pressuring the local cable company
to start carrying the BTN and was using local fan outrage as a bargaining
tool.

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On Tue, Sep 15, 2009 at 8:00 AM, Dennis W. Brandt <tbng@comcast.net> wrote:

> If they can't provide coverage we should have the option at their(Syracuse)
>> expense to bring the Big Ten network out to cover the game.
>>
>
> Right on!  Power to the Purple!  It's crazy not to televise every game in
> this day and age.
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From mlinhardt at netzero.com  Tue Sep 15 10:23:19 2009
From: mlinhardt at netzero.com (mlinhardt@netzero.com)
Date: Tue Sep 15 10:27:32 2009
Subject: [NU Sports] Cats v. 'Cuse
Message-ID: <20090915.102319.28231.1@webmail05.dca.untd.com>

I found it. 

http://www.timewarnercable.com/CustomerService/Clu/Clu.ashx?linkid=62
College Football - Northwestern at Syracuse
Saturday 7:00pm ? 10:30pm 26 TWSYSPO
Time Warner Cable Sports

Maybe I don't understand this new-fangled TV thang, but shouldn't it be available nationwide if you have a sportsbar with the right package?

Dennis W. Brandt wrote:
> <It's a great sentiment, but it's not practical as most television contracts these days are now in the hands of the conferences and not the member institutions, <leaving the school's little to no room to maneuver.  For example, if the situation were reversed and the game was in Evanston and on the BTN, which happened <not to be carried by the local cable company in Syracuse, there would be nothing NU or anyone else could do to get it picked up there if the BTN chose not to <allow it.  The BTN could have any number of reasons for choosing not to show the game, but just to choose one, as was the case with Comcast previously, it <was pressuring the local cable company to start carrying the BTN and was using local fan outrage as a bargaining tool.
>
> But in this case, the game is not being televised anywhere except on the Internet.  It should be that if a game is not telecast by the home team's television network, then the other team's network gets the opportunity.  It would be in Syracuse's and the Big East's best interests to allow the game to be televised.
>   
Clark Zahn wrote:
The game is being telecast on the local Time Warner sports channel.  The 
game was just not picked  up by anyone else.  I don't know whether or 
not Time Warner made it available.



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From cherron604 at aol.com  Tue Sep 15 11:02:28 2009
From: cherron604 at aol.com (cherron604@aol.com)
Date: Tue Sep 15 11:03:16 2009
Subject: [NU Sports] Buckeyes-Trojans
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The only 'Bowl-bump' that would upset me would be missing the Rose Bowl, and having to settle for Orlando.? I believe this one can't happen, the team that by rule gets to go there, will go there.



The other would be getting bumped to Detroit, if you legitimately deserved someplace better.



I was not saddened the time we got bumped to El Paso, had a great time in El Paso, the people were wonderful.? I was kind of sad to see it go out of the Big Ten Rotation.? And last year's bump to San Antonio didn't sadden me either - Had a good time, played a great game against a very good team.



I know that I should care about 'How the leage is perceived' by the likes of ESPN people, but I don't.? We get two teams into the BCS almost every year, and our champion plays, most years, in the best game out there.? I do feel bad for Big Ten?champions that miss the Rose Bowl (and the Rose Bowl experience).??We get tons of money from the bowl every year.? We get tons of money from the Big Ten network every year.? If some ESPN talking head thinks that the SEC or Big 12 is better, let them think that.? I think that ESPN has ruined a lot of great things about? sports -?1:00 o'clock football start times, more concern about artfully filmed home runs or slam dunks than about who won the game,?supposed experts (Lee Corso ?) tossing off opinions, etc.?



Chuck Herron??? Tech (not McCormick) '85? 


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> I might as well make my annual assertion that I view every
> loss by another Big Ten team as good for us. I don't care if
> everyone views our conference as weak; being part of the
> awful ACC in the 1990s never seemed to hurt Florida State.

Well, that was a pretty different scenario. FSU came into the conference with a 
great rep from their bucketful of 10-1 years (daggum Miami!), so they didn't 
need to earn respect. In fact, you could say that a mediocre ACC has dragged 
down FSU's once mighty rep significantly.

NU doesn't have FSU's history. Winning a strong league helps our bowl position 
much more than winning one perceived as weak (or even going 9-3 or 10-2 in a 
"weak" league, not being in the top 25 and not earning recognition).

> I hereby provide my annual assertion
> as well that every other team in
> the Big Ten can lose every game they play, and I would be

:) - well, normally I wouldn't argue too much - but the OSU/USC game was built 
up with so much hype nationally that the rep of the league was also on the line 
there.

Again, not my rules - and not fair. No one bashes the SEC because Tennessee 
loses to UCLA two years straight, gets waxed at Cal or UGa loses to OkieState. 
No one denegrates the Big XII because OU drops games against Boise State, West 
Virginia and BYU or when Okie State loses to Houston.

But for some reason (cough... John Saunders and the dimwitted bachelor 
...cough), our fortunes seem to be tied to OSU. Nevermind that they're losing 
close games against top 5 teams, their losses somehow mean that the Big Ten is a 
weak league. PSU and OSU will be underranked in the polls all year after this 
and as we saw with Michigan (#25 in one poll, not ranked in another), a third 
team is going to have to beat PSU/OSU or go 11-1 to get ranked and some respect.

> Just as a for instance -- let's say Iowa had lost one more
> game than we
> had last year. Who would have gone to the Florida bowl in

They did. And they still went ahead of us. And they will forever until we earn 
respect.
 Beating Iowa on the field didn't get that. Going 10-2 in a weak league 
won't get that. Going 10-2 in a strong league or winning a bowl game will get 
that.

Look at our 9-win seasons in '96 and '08. When the Big Ten was seen as strong, 
we were highly ranked (even though we lost to OSU in '96 and didn't play OSU) 
... last year, we barely got noticed.

> Because the Big Ten teams are (more or less) assigned to
> bowls one
> through six based on the order of finish, every

How often has THAT happened in the last decade???

If every team we play in league play is perceived as weak, we don't get a chance 
to earn that respect -- that's why we needed an OSU win. Or a Purdue win at 
Autzen. Or an MSU win in South Bend this weekend. And plenty of bowl wins in the 
SEC's backyard (though that Michigan smackdown of the glass-jawed Gators in 
Orlando seems to be conveniently forgotten in all this Big Ten bashing ... 
because OSU lost to LSU and USC on the road??? And now last-minute losses to #2 
Texas and #3 USC???).

Besides, as competitors we should want to beat the best. I wanted to play OSU in 
1995 (maybe not '96 :) ) - we had a team that would have matched up quite well 
with them. I want to win the Big Ten and have it be a worthwhile accomplishment. 
I understand why we play the NC schedule we do (it's smart under the stupid 
B(C)S system) ... but a narrow win over EMU doesn't mean a fraction of as much 
as a narrow win over a top 10 ranked Michigan or OSU or PSU.

GO CATS!!!
And for a couple more weeks at least, GO BIG TEN!!!:)
-SjT


      

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From: cherron604 at aol.com (cherron604@aol.com)
Date: Tue Sep 15 11:12:37 2009
Subject: [NU Sports] Cats v. 'Cuse
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Since 'The Cuse' can't even manage to get their game out there on broadcast television, this raises the?question 'Why did we enter in to this arrangement ?'



- We should play cupcakes at our place (Towson, EMU), so we get a win and their players get a chance to enjoy a Big Ten stage.



?- For home and away foes, we should stick with programs steeped in tradition (which Syracuse is), near great travel destinations (which Syracuse is not), and schools that are as respected for scholarship as for athletics.? Stick with Army, Navy, Duke, Vanderbilt, Rice - and maybe add a few 'destination opponents' - San Diego State, Stanford, Tulane, etc.



Chuck Herron?? Tech? '85


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Shouldn't it be part of the away game contract that those games must be 
televised?

I would not schedule a future home-and-home series with anybody who can't get TV 
coverage.

If they can't provide coverage we should have the option at their(Syracuse) 
expense to bring the Big Ten network out to cover the game.

---------- Original Message ----------
I asked the NU athletic department and they confirmed (via Twitter) that the
24 hour pass does indeed include video.

Jonathan

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From jonathanwhodges at gmail.com  Tue Sep 15 11:25:30 2009
From: jonathanwhodges at gmail.com (Jonathan Hodges)
Date: Tue Sep 15 11:25:59 2009
Subject: [NU Sports] Cats v. 'Cuse
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> ?- For home and away foes, we should stick with programs steeped in
> tradition (which Syracuse is), near great travel destinations (which
> Syracuse is not), and schools that are as respected for scholarship as for
> athletics.? Stick with Army, Navy, Duke, Vanderbilt, Rice - and maybe add a
> few 'destination opponents' - San Diego State, Stanford, Tulane, etc.
>


The funny thing is that out of all of the potential opponents listed above
(some of which NU does have agreements to play in the near future, like
Army, Vanderbilt, Rice, and Stanford), a game with NU would be very unlikely
to be televised for any of them.  Vanderbilt in the SEC is the most likely,
although under their agreement with ESPN it would likely be an
ESPN+/GamePlan/ESPN360.com game, meaning it still may be tough for some
people to get (although ESPN360.com is really cool if your internet service
provider has signed up for it, especially on Saturdays during college FB
season).

I think now with the BTN in its third season and agreements that have it
available throughout the Big Ten footprint as well as nationwide on
satellite and sports tiers, we Big Ten fans are taking TV exposure for
granted.  Remember just a few years back when multiple games (nonconference
games, in particular) weren't televised at all (with no internet streaming
options, either).  Now, we are demanding that every game be televised
(meanwhile, attendance is at its lowest levels since the "dark ages" and has
failed to eclipse 20,000 FIVE times since the start of the 2007 season).

Jonathan


>
>
>
> Chuck Herron?? Tech? '85
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
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> To: nwu-sports@tssi.com
> Cc: Maureen.Linhardt@plexus.com
> Sent: Tue, Sep 15, 2009 6:56 am
> Subject: Re: [NU Sports] Cats v. 'Cuse
>
>
>
>
> Shouldn't it be part of the away game contract that those games must be
> televised?
>
> I would not schedule a future home-and-home series with anybody who can't
> get TV
> coverage.
>
> If they can't provide coverage we should have the option at their(Syracuse)
> expense to bring the Big Ten network out to cover the game.
>
> ---------- Original Message ----------
> I asked the NU athletic department and they confirmed (via Twitter) that
> the
> 24 hour pass does indeed include video.
>
> Jonathan
>
> PS: Shameless plug: Twitter is a great way to keep up with sports stuff,
> for
> NU football related content feel free to follow me at
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From nolan at romaine.tssi.com  Tue Sep 15 13:33:20 2009
From: nolan at romaine.tssi.com (Mike Nolan)
Date: Tue Sep 15 13:33:24 2009
Subject: [NU Sports] Cats v. 'Cuse
In-Reply-To: <8FD7BE773ABA4F77940129AC79F4A43D@DennisMachine> from "Dennis W.
	Brandt" at Sep 15, 2009 08:00:47 AM
Message-ID: <200909151833.n8FIXK6r013228@romaine.tssi.com>

> > If they can't provide coverage we should have the option at 
> > their(Syracuse) expense to bring the Big Ten network out to cover the 
> > game.
> 
> Right on!  Power to the Purple!  It's crazy not to televise every game in 
> this day and age. 

If that's really what you want, then pay-per-view is probably the long
term solution, and that's where the Big 10 Network has us headed, IMHO.  

Nebraska's first three home games are all on PPV this year, at $29.95 per 
game.  

I've been told that Nebraska makes quite a tidy profit from those PPV
games, and I think that's above and beyond the guaranteed conference TV 
payments.  

Those games are all against Sun Belt conference teams (Florida Atlantic, 
Arkansas State and and Louisiana-Lafayette), so I don't imagine ABC or Fox
was all that interested in them, since the Huskers aren't a top 5 team.  
(If Texas played those 3 schools, I bet they'd all be on TV.) 
--
Mike Nolan

From cherron604 at aol.com  Tue Sep 15 13:34:02 2009
From: cherron604 at aol.com (cherron604@aol.com)
Date: Tue Sep 15 13:34:43 2009
Subject: [NU Sports] Cats v. 'Cuse
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Precisely the reason all Big Ten teams should tell prospective Big East opponents to 'take a walk' - your conference is third-rate, and you signed a shameful bowl agreement with the Evil Empire.? It is time that that we as a conference quit lending our prestige to second- and third-rate opponents, and quit lending our prestige to the Evil Empire AT ALL...



Chuck Herron?? Tech '85


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The Big Ten network is accessible at most quality sports bars throughout the 
nation.  No you can't buy it with some cable systems in some areas, but you can 
find a place that has it.

If the syracuse game were on television even on a rinky-dink local network you 
could find it at some sports bar in Chicagoland.

The Big Least is a disgrace as a conference if they can't get a TV crew to a vs. 
BCS opponent game.

I just think we should insist that if you want a Big Ten team to travel your 
conference MUST provide TV coverage.

---------- Original Message ----------
From: Sportsbiz <sportsbiz@gmail.com>

It's a great sentiment, but it's not practical as most television contracts
these days are now in the hands of the conferences and not the member
institutions, leaving the school's little to no room to maneuver.  For
example, if the situation were reversed and the game was in Evanston and on
the BTN, which happened not to be carried by the local cable company in
Syracuse, there would be nothing NU or anyone else could do to get it picked
up there if the BTN chose not to allow it.  The BTN could have any number of
reasons for choosing not to show the game, but just to choose one, as was
the case with Comcast previously, it was pressuring the local cable company
to start carrying the BTN and was using local fan outrage as a bargaining
tool.

Mark

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> If they can't provide coverage we should have the option at their(Syracuse)
>> expense to bring the Big Ten network out to cover the game.
>>
>
> Right on!  Power to the Purple!  It's crazy not to televise every game in
> this day and age.
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From tkmaycock at yahoo.com  Tue Sep 15 13:48:29 2009
From: tkmaycock at yahoo.com (Tom Maycock)
Date: Tue Sep 15 13:48:35 2009
Subject: [NU Sports] Cats v. 'Cuse
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> Precisely the reason all Big Ten teams should tell
> prospective Big East opponents to 'take a walk' - your
> conference is third-rate, and you signed a shameful bowl
> agreement with the Evil Empire.? It is time that that we as
> a conference quit lending our prestige to second- and
> third-rate opponents, and quit lending our prestige to the
> Evil Empire AT ALL...

Well, yeah, but....given that we've drawn less than 40,000 fans in our first two games *combined*, I'm not sure NU is in any position to talk down to any team or conference. :-)

> Nebraska's first three home games are all on PPV this year, at $29.95 
> per game. 

Holy crap, that's a lot of cash to watch a game against, for example, FAU. Actually, that's a lot of cash to watch a game against anyone. That price seems insane to me. 

Tom


 

From jonathanwhodges at gmail.com  Tue Sep 15 14:08:15 2009
From: jonathanwhodges at gmail.com (Jonathan Hodges)
Date: Tue Sep 15 14:16:09 2009
Subject: [NU Sports] Cats v. 'Cuse
In-Reply-To: <426660.34104.qm@web33102.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
References: <8CC044A3B4417C3-C38-13A20@webmail-d093.sysops.aol.com> 
	<426660.34104.qm@web33102.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <fcb3ee270909151208i298d3de7l6115df21b01e3bcc@mail.gmail.com>

> Holy crap, that's a lot of cash to watch a game against, for example, FAU.
> Actually, that's a lot of cash to watch a game against anyone. That price
> seems insane to me.
>

That's apparently not a lot of cash to Huskers fans who have been selling
out their stadium for decades and are perfectly willing to shell out cash to
watch their team (they wouldn't be doing PPV if people weren't paying for
it, especially at such a high price).

Be thankful that the Big Ten decided to launch its own cable/satellite
network that keeps games accessible to the vast majority of people (at least
once the squabbling with cable companies was over) at a minimal additional
cost (compared to PPV).  As we're seeing with schools such as Duke and
Syracuse, many schools are going to online streaming to get their games out
there, so at least there is an option here.

Jonathan
From rstetson at capps-assoc.com  Tue Sep 15 16:42:20 2009
From: rstetson at capps-assoc.com (Roy Lamberton)
Date: Tue Sep 15 16:42:20 2009
Subject: [NU Sports] Cats v. 'Cuse
In-Reply-To: <200909151833.n8FIXK6r013228@romaine.tssi.com>
References: <8FD7BE773ABA4F77940129AC79F4A43D@DennisMachine> from "Dennis
	W.	Brandt" at Sep 15,
	2009 08:00:47 AM <200909151833.n8FIXK6r013228@romaine.tssi.com>
Message-ID: <003601ca364d$673504b0$359f0e10$@com>

Just as a point of reference.

We webcast the first 25 games of the Little League Senior Softball World
Series, charging $6 per game or $30 for the entire series.

We sold over $3,500 in PPV subscriptions for just this little event, and
people are still signing up and paying to download the games.

PPV is the way to go, altho I think the price at $30 is a little steep. Then
again, flying to Syracuse for the game would cost a hell of a lot more,
wouldn't it.

rsl

++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
Roy S. Lamberton - Senior Associate & Unix Guru.
Computer Applications & Support Associates
-------------------- Also ----------------------
Commissioner Delaware American Legion Baseball
Retired Senior Chief Cryptologic Technician [R]
Northwestern University - Speech 1974 - 
Chi Phi: Pi 1974, KD 1968
Publisher Emeritus: Purple Reign (Fox Sports)
==========  Go Cats -? Beat 'em All  ===========
So...
     How's that "hope" and "Change"
     Working for ya?

Don't re-elect nobody, not even yo mama!
================================================

-----Original Message-----
From: nwu-sports-bounces@tssi.com [mailto:nwu-sports-bounces@tssi.com] On
Behalf Of Mike Nolan
Sent: Tuesday, September 15, 2009 2:33 PM
To: Dennis W. Brandt
Cc: nwu-sports@tssi.com
Subject: Re: [NU Sports] Cats v. 'Cuse

> > If they can't provide coverage we should have the option at 
> > their(Syracuse) expense to bring the Big Ten network out to cover the 
> > game.
> 
> Right on!  Power to the Purple!  It's crazy not to televise every game in 
> this day and age. 

If that's really what you want, then pay-per-view is probably the long
term solution, and that's where the Big 10 Network has us headed, IMHO.  

Nebraska's first three home games are all on PPV this year, at $29.95 per 
game.  

I've been told that Nebraska makes quite a tidy profit from those PPV
games, and I think that's above and beyond the guaranteed conference TV 
payments.  

Those games are all against Sun Belt conference teams (Florida Atlantic, 
Arkansas State and and Louisiana-Lafayette), so I don't imagine ABC or Fox
was all that interested in them, since the Huskers aren't a top 5 team.  
(If Texas played those 3 schools, I bet they'd all be on TV.) 
--
Mike Nolan

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From cdueltgen at alumni.northwestern.edu  Tue Sep 15 17:27:49 2009
From: cdueltgen at alumni.northwestern.edu (Cynthia Dueltgen)
Date: Tue Sep 15 17:28:59 2009
Subject: [NU Sports] Cats v. 'Cuse
In-Reply-To: <003601ca364d$673504b0$359f0e10$@com>
References: <8FD7BE773ABA4F77940129AC79F4A43D@DennisMachine>
	<200909151833.n8FIXK6r013228@romaine.tssi.com>
	<003601ca364d$673504b0$359f0e10$@com>
Message-ID: <2268a9e80909151527g3e5b16dfh877d4c34feb867e3@mail.gmail.com>

I just got a tweet from NU_Sports saying the Syracuse game will be
carried on ESPN Gameplan and ESPN360. Excellent!

-Cynthia

On Tue, Sep 15, 2009 at 2:42 PM, Roy Lamberton <rstetson@capps-assoc.com> wrote:
> Just as a point of reference.
>
> We webcast the first 25 games of the Little League Senior Softball World
> Series, charging $6 per game or $30 for the entire series.
>
> We sold over $3,500 in PPV subscriptions for just this little event, and
> people are still signing up and paying to download the games.
>
> PPV is the way to go, altho I think the price at $30 is a little steep. Then
> again, flying to Syracuse for the game would cost a hell of a lot more,
> wouldn't it.
>
> rsl
>
> ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
> Roy S. Lamberton - Senior Associate & Unix Guru.
> Computer Applications & Support Associates
> -------------------- Also ----------------------
> Commissioner Delaware American Legion Baseball
> Retired Senior Chief Cryptologic Technician [R]
> Northwestern University - Speech 1974 -
> Chi Phi: Pi 1974, KD 1968
> Publisher Emeritus: Purple Reign (Fox Sports)
> ========== ?Go Cats -? Beat 'em All ?===========
> So...
> ? ? How's that "hope" and "Change"
> ? ? Working for ya?
>
> Don't re-elect nobody, not even yo mama!
> ================================================
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: nwu-sports-bounces@tssi.com [mailto:nwu-sports-bounces@tssi.com] On
> Behalf Of Mike Nolan
> Sent: Tuesday, September 15, 2009 2:33 PM
> To: Dennis W. Brandt
> Cc: nwu-sports@tssi.com
> Subject: Re: [NU Sports] Cats v. 'Cuse
>
>> > If they can't provide coverage we should have the option at
>> > their(Syracuse) expense to bring the Big Ten network out to cover the
>> > game.
>>
>> Right on! ?Power to the Purple! ?It's crazy not to televise every game in
>> this day and age.
>
> If that's really what you want, then pay-per-view is probably the long
> term solution, and that's where the Big 10 Network has us headed, IMHO.
>
> Nebraska's first three home games are all on PPV this year, at $29.95 per
> game.
>
> I've been told that Nebraska makes quite a tidy profit from those PPV
> games, and I think that's above and beyond the guaranteed conference TV
> payments.
>
> Those games are all against Sun Belt conference teams (Florida Atlantic,
> Arkansas State and and Louisiana-Lafayette), so I don't imagine ABC or Fox
> was all that interested in them, since the Huskers aren't a top 5 team.
> (If Texas played those 3 schools, I bet they'd all be on TV.)
> --
> Mike Nolan
>
> _______________________________________________
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>
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>

From NEONRye at aol.com  Tue Sep 15 17:44:35 2009
From: NEONRye at aol.com (NEONRye@aol.com)
Date: Tue Sep 15 17:44:53 2009
Subject: [NU Sports] Bowl Game At Yankee Stadium Is Likely (But Not With Big
	10)
Message-ID: <d28.52031a6f.37e172d3@aol.com>

>From today's NY TIMES, looks like Big East vs. Big 12 at the new Yankee  
Stadium in a bowl game.  The Big 10 powers that be must have figured that  the 
conference teams play enough cold weather games during the regular  season. 
 Bring your mittens, long johns, etc.
 
_http://www.nytimes.com/2009/09/15/sports/ncaafootball/15newbowl.html?ref=sp
orts_ 
(http://www.nytimes.com/2009/09/15/sports/ncaafootball/15newbowl.html?ref=sports) 
 
Paul Levinson
From sjtruog at yahoo.com  Tue Sep 15 23:23:25 2009
From: sjtruog at yahoo.com (SjT (Stephen J. Truog))
Date: Tue Sep 15 23:23:33 2009
Subject: [NU Sports] Cats v. 'Cuse
In-Reply-To: <8CC044A3B4417C3-C38-13A20@webmail-d093.sysops.aol.com>
Message-ID: <803014.9251.qm@web52907.mail.re2.yahoo.com>

> Precisely the reason all Big Ten teams should tell
> prospective Big East opponents to 'take a walk' - your
> conference is third-rate, and you signed a shameful bowl
> agreement with the Evil Empire.? It is time that that we as
> a conference quit lending our prestige to second- and
> third-rate opponents, and quit lending our prestige to the
> Evil Empire AT ALL...

AMEN!

I actually think that the Big Ten Network has spoiled fans and we may soon demand TV for all games.

What I wonder is how the Oregon-Purdue game last week (on FSN) was rebroadcast on the BTN later in the week -- could that perhaps happen with NU-Cuse???

GO CATS!!!
-SjT


      

From sjtruog at yahoo.com  Wed Sep 16 00:12:00 2009
From: sjtruog at yahoo.com (SjT (Stephen J. Truog))
Date: Wed Sep 16 00:12:22 2009
Subject: [NU Sports] PIGSKIN PICKS - Week 3
Message-ID: <287787.36142.qm@web52908.mail.re2.yahoo.com>

Not a bad few days of football last week ? exciting Big Ten games (some good games, some unnecessarily close!) and all the NFL prime time games came down to the last minute, from Thursday through Monday.

And Notre Dame lost!

Who could ask for anything more? Well, this weekend may lack the mega-matchups in the Big House and Shoe of last week, but the overall depth of good games should be better. The Big Ten middle pack has some danger games and a lot of the BCS buster darlings face stern tests. I didn?t even have to put the games involving the top three ranked teams on the slate ? they?re all on TV, and some might even be good (USC @ UDub is interesting as the Huskies have impressed and outside of the final drive, SC looked sluggish last wee) ? but really, was anyone going to pick the Vols in the Swamp or Texas Tech to pull the upset in Austin???

So let?s get to a lineup of close games and some picks that should separate the pack a bit in our contest this year ?

Picks due by kickoff Thursday!

PIGSKIN PICKS ? WEEK 3
======================
Name: 

BIG TEN
-------
GAME 1: Indiana @ Akron
WINNER: 

GAME 2: Arizona @ Iowa
WINNER: 

GAME 3: Eastern Michigan @ Michigan
WINNER: 

GAME 4: Michigan State @ Notre Dame
WINNER: 

GAME 5: California @ Minnesota
WINNER: 

GAME 6: Ohio State vs. Toledo (@ Cleveland)
WINNER: 

GAME 7: Temple @ Penn State
WINNER: 

GAME 8: Northern Illinois @ Purdue
WINNER: 

GAME 9: Wofford @ Wisconsin
WINNER: 

NATIONAL
--------
GAME 10: Georgia Tech @ Miami (Fla.)
WINNER: 

GAME 11: Boise State @ Fresno State
WINNER: 

GAME 12: Nebraska @ Virginia Tech
WINNER: 

GAME 13: Florida State @ Brigham Young
WINNER: 

GAME 14: Cincinnati @ Oregon State
WINNER: 

GAME 15: Utah @ Oregon
WINNER: 

MY PICKS
========
* INDIANA 26, Akron 17 ? Another ugly win for IU, but 3-0 is 3-0, right? I?m still not sure the Hoosiers will win a league game, but I do like their D-line more each week.

* ARIZONA 24, Iowa 21 ? This could be one of the better games of the day and just like the two Pac 10/Big Ten games last week (why aren?t there MORE of those in September!!!), it?s a close win for the Pac 10 as Iowa?s living on the edge and Zona?s better than a lot of people think this year.

* MICHIGAN 42, Eastern Michigan 17 ? There?s a chance for a letdown, but I think the ND win was a turning point for the Maize and Blue on their way to a big season.

* NOTRE DAME 37, Michigan State 30 ? I?d love to see Sparty continue their mastery over the Irish, but after watching CMU carve up MSU last week, I think the F?ing Irish will probably do the same in South Bend. Gag.

* CALIFORNIA 41, Minnesota 21 ? The Gophers have a beautiful new stadium, but they seem to have left their offense in the Dome ? they need the Weber-Decker connection to show up again if they have any hope against Cal, who has been the most impressive Pac 10 team so far.

* OHIO STATE 35, Toledo 7 ? The defense deserved the win last week, but Pryor made the big mistake early and looked lost late ? Tressel will probably open up the offense now, a week too late.

* PENN STATE 56, Temple 3 ? After a sluggish win last week, JoePa?s team gets back on track with a thumping of Temple.

* PURDUE 38, Northern Illinois 23 ? A week ago, I?d have picked the Huskies, but the spunky Boilers have impressed me so far (either that or Oregon is really, really bad).

* WISCONSIN 34, Wofford 10 ? If the Badgers merely scrape by in this one, then Bielema may not last through November.

* MIAMI 41, Georgia Tech 27 ? Should be a fun shootout between ACC leaders and while I like GaTech?s effort, the Canes are a step above in talent.

* BOISE STATE 30, Fresno State 27 ? The Bulldogs are never an easy win, but the Broncos know that this is their toughest test remaining and come through late.

* VIRGINIA TECH 26, Nebraska 14 ? Last week it was the Big Ten, this week the ACC has some big-time respect games and none bigger than this showdown. The Hokies get back in the big win column at home over a spunky Husker squad.

* FLORIDA STATE 17, Brigham Young 13 ? Another big test for the ACC, and something tells me that it?s midnight in Provo and the game Cougars are going to come up just short against the talent-rich but disorganized Noles.

* OREGON STATE 45, Cincinnati 28 ? A big game for the Big East to get respect here, but the Beavers at home roll.

* UTAH 23, Oregon 20 ? Another tough call and it could be curtains for Utah?s BCS bid as they?ve opened sluggish ? but Oregon has just not looked like a good team this year and they fall at home.

And off the board ?

* NORTHWESTERN 28, Syracuse 24 ? The Cats need to bring the team that played the first six quarters of the year to western New York and not the one that stunk up the place the last two quarters against EMU because the ?Cuse has proven they won?t go down without a fight this year. (Also, are they trying to rival Notre Dame for wannabe Big Ten member with this scheduling?). NU always seems to have a road trap in the nonconference slate ? last year we barely survived and hopefully we?re able to escape this year.

Remember, picks in Thursday by kickoff!
GO CATS!!!
- SjT



* * * * * * * * *
STEPHEN J. TRUOG
sjtruog@yahoo.com
GO CATS!!!


      

From sjtruog at yahoo.com  Wed Sep 16 00:15:59 2009
From: sjtruog at yahoo.com (SjT (Stephen J. Truog))
Date: Wed Sep 16 00:16:11 2009
Subject: [NU Sports] PIGSKIN PICKS - Standings 'n' Polls
Message-ID: <499463.69892.qm@web52901.mail.re2.yahoo.com>

No standings yet, but the first edition of the rankings will have to suffice ...

LW TW SjTop 25
========================
01 01 FLORIDA ? Can cruise on autopilot for a month with easy schedule
02 02 TEXAS ? Rest of the Big XII self-destructing around the Horns
03 03 SOUTHERN CAL ? Didn?t play well, but came out with big W
04 04 PENN STATE ? Sluggish in putting away Syracuse
05 05 LSU ? Two wins, but haven?t looked as impressive as rivals ?
07 06 ALABAMA ? ? such as Bama, who got a big win in Atlanta
09 07 BYU ? Irish loss opens up room in the BCS for Cougars ?
10 08 BOISE STATE ? ? or the Broncos, who have a clear path ?
11 09 UTAH ? ? or the Utes, who haven?t looked sharp yet, but 2-0
13 10 CALIFORNIA ? Have looked great, but will it play on the road?
08 11 OHIO STATE ? Outplayed SC, but played it too safe at end
12 12 MISSISSIPPI ? Still not a believer until they beat somebody
14 13 OKLAHOMA ? Sooners bounced back, but need to beat Texas now
06 14 OKLAHOMA STATE ? What happened? Yeesh!
15 15 GEORGIA ? Another SEC defensive struggle, eh?
16 16 VIRGINIA TECH ? Best coach in the ACC ? but it?s still weak
17 17 MIAMI ? Best talent in the ACC ? but it?s still weak
19 18 GEORGIA TECH ? Best team effort in the ACC ? but it?s still weak
20 19 TCU ? The Mountain West looks darn good this year
NR 20 MICHIGAN ? Big win gets big blue back on big stage
21 21 KANSAS ? Someone?s gotta win the north, right?
22 22 SOUTH FLORIDA ? Does anyone from the Big Least ?
23 23 PITTSBURGH - ? feel like actually proving they deserve
24 24 CINCINNATI - ? a BCS berth this season?
NR 25 UCLA ? If only they could play Tennessee every week!

DROPPED OUT: (18) Michigan State, (25) Florida State
ON THE VERGE: Arizona, Houston, North Carolina, Northwestern, Oregon State

LW TW NFC RANKS
=========================
02 01 PHILADELPHIA ? Gotta get McNabb back, but looking good
03 02 NEW YORK ? D is ready to go ? is Eli?
04 03 ATLANTA ? Not impressive, but a solid foe
06 04 NEW ORLEANS ? Impressive, but not a solid foe
NR 05 GREEN BAY ? Nice win at the end, easy road left
NR 06 DALLAS ? May be better without PO

DROPPED OUT: (1) Arizona, (5) Chicago (this just in ? Cutler sucks!)
ON THE VERGE: Minnesota, San Francisco, Seattle

LW TW AFC RANKS
==========================
01 01 PITTSBURGH ? Rugged win over tough foe
03 02 TENNESSEE ? Tough opener, but impressive still
02 03 NEW ENGLAND ? A virtual loss and extremely fortunate
04 04 SAN DIEGO ? Almost lucked out as much as Pats
05 05 BALTIMORE ? Where did the D go??? 24 points???
06 06 INDIANAPOLIS ? A close win ? too close

DROPPED OUT: None
ON THE VERGE: New York

Remember, college picks in by Thursday!
And for those of you in the NFL picks, get 'em in by Sunday!

GO CATS!!!
GEAUX SAINTS!!!
-SjT

* * * * * * * * *
STEPHEN J. TRUOG
sjtruog@yahoo.com
GO CATS!!!


      

From jonathanwhodges at gmail.com  Wed Sep 16 08:24:17 2009
From: jonathanwhodges at gmail.com (Jonathan Hodges)
Date: Wed Sep 16 08:24:48 2009
Subject: [NU Sports] Cats v. 'Cuse
In-Reply-To: <803014.9251.qm@web52907.mail.re2.yahoo.com>
References: <8CC044A3B4417C3-C38-13A20@webmail-d093.sysops.aol.com> 
	<803014.9251.qm@web52907.mail.re2.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <fcb3ee270909160624q5a49aa6bybe6821a17321a004@mail.gmail.com>

Really good news; as I mentioned earlier ESPN360.com is really great
assuming your ISP offers it.  And, of course, you can always go the PPV
route to watch on the TV.  Along with the BTN, you can get a ton of games
every Saturday with that combo.

I know the Oregon/Purdue game was on FSN out west but was carried on Comcast
Sports Net in Chicago; Versus has some west coast games as well (although
both networks are owned by Comcast so their availability on other systems is
spotty at best).

Jonathan

On Tue, Sep 15, 2009 at 11:23 PM, SjT (Stephen J. Truog)
<sjtruog@yahoo.com>wrote:

> > Precisely the reason all Big Ten teams should tell
> > prospective Big East opponents to 'take a walk' - your
> > conference is third-rate, and you signed a shameful bowl
> > agreement with the Evil Empire.? It is time that that we as
> > a conference quit lending our prestige to second- and
> > third-rate opponents, and quit lending our prestige to the
> > Evil Empire AT ALL...
>
> AMEN!
>
> I actually think that the Big Ten Network has spoiled fans and we may soon
> demand TV for all games.
>
> What I wonder is how the Oregon-Purdue game last week (on FSN) was
> rebroadcast on the BTN later in the week -- could that perhaps happen with
> NU-Cuse???
>
> GO CATS!!!
> -SjT
>
>
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> nwu-sports site list
> nwu-sports@tssi.com
> http://romaine.tssi.com/mailman/listinfo/nwu-sports
>
From sportsbiz at gmail.com  Wed Sep 16 09:42:06 2009
From: sportsbiz at gmail.com (Sportsbiz)
Date: Wed Sep 16 09:42:28 2009
Subject: [NU Sports] Cats v. 'Cuse
In-Reply-To: <fcb3ee270909160624q5a49aa6bybe6821a17321a004@mail.gmail.com>
References: <8CC044A3B4417C3-C38-13A20@webmail-d093.sysops.aol.com>
	<803014.9251.qm@web52907.mail.re2.yahoo.com>
	<fcb3ee270909160624q5a49aa6bybe6821a17321a004@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <223fce250909160742j2544e57chf729a3c346649e97@mail.gmail.com>

FSN has a national agreement with the Pac-10.  ESPN has an agreement with
the Pac-10 for a few games but the conference's primary TV deal is with FSN,
which is distributed to all FSN and Comcast regionals nationally,  It's the
primary reason that the Pac-10 has had such little visibility in recent
years (well, that and their games are played at 11:00pm in the east).Mark

On Wed, Sep 16, 2009 at 9:24 AM, Jonathan Hodges
<jonathanwhodges@gmail.com>wrote:

> Really good news; as I mentioned earlier ESPN360.com is really great
> assuming your ISP offers it.  And, of course, you can always go the PPV
> route to watch on the TV.  Along with the BTN, you can get a ton of games
> every Saturday with that combo.
>
> I know the Oregon/Purdue game was on FSN out west but was carried on
> Comcast
> Sports Net in Chicago; Versus has some west coast games as well (although
> both networks are owned by Comcast so their availability on other systems
> is
> spotty at best).
>
> Jonathan
>
> On Tue, Sep 15, 2009 at 11:23 PM, SjT (Stephen J. Truog)
> <sjtruog@yahoo.com>wrote:
>
> > > Precisely the reason all Big Ten teams should tell
> > > prospective Big East opponents to 'take a walk' - your
> > > conference is third-rate, and you signed a shameful bowl
> > > agreement with the Evil Empire.? It is time that that we as
> > > a conference quit lending our prestige to second- and
> > > third-rate opponents, and quit lending our prestige to the
> > > Evil Empire AT ALL...
> >
> > AMEN!
> >
> > I actually think that the Big Ten Network has spoiled fans and we may
> soon
> > demand TV for all games.
> >
> > What I wonder is how the Oregon-Purdue game last week (on FSN) was
> > rebroadcast on the BTN later in the week -- could that perhaps happen
> with
> > NU-Cuse???
> >
> > GO CATS!!!
> > -SjT
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > _______________________________________________
> > nwu-sports site list
> > nwu-sports@tssi.com
> > http://romaine.tssi.com/mailman/listinfo/nwu-sports
> >
> _______________________________________________
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> nwu-sports@tssi.com
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>
From jleonard518 at yahoo.com  Wed Sep 16 13:25:06 2009
From: jleonard518 at yahoo.com (Jim Leonard)
Date: Wed Sep 16 13:25:18 2009
Subject: [NU Sports] A big test for Fitz this week
In-Reply-To: <2268a9e80909151527g3e5b16dfh877d4c34feb867e3@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <647207.73662.qm@web36808.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

Fellow Wildcat Faithful,

This is by no means a 'must win' game for the 2009 Cats, but I think it will serve as a good gauge of how far Fitz has come as a coach. 

We've seen the Cats play some excellent football so far this season and we've also seen the collapsing Wildcats of old on the field. A good coach will use a focused week of practice to correct the mistakes and tighten up for a big road game. 

Fitz has better all-around talent than Syracuse and his players aren't distracted with classes yet. I am hoping and expecting that Fitz can coach his way to a victory this Saturday. 

Victory & Honor,
Jim





      

From nolan at romaine.tssi.com  Wed Sep 16 13:48:33 2009
From: nolan at romaine.tssi.com (Mike Nolan)
Date: Wed Sep 16 13:48:36 2009
Subject: [NU Sports] A big test for Fitz this week
In-Reply-To: <647207.73662.qm@web36808.mail.mud.yahoo.com> from "Jim Leonard"
	at Sep 16, 2009 11:25:06 AM
Message-ID: <200909161848.n8GImXiF019000@romaine.tssi.com>

> Fitz has better all-around talent than Syracuse and his players aren't distracted with classes yet. I am hoping and expecting that Fitz can coach his way to a victory this Saturday. 

I'm not so convinced that NU has noticeably more talent on its roster 
than Syracuse does.   How many 2, 3 and 4 star recruits are on both squads?

Classes not having started is not always a positive.  I know there is a limit
to the number of players who can practice before the first day of classes,
but maybe that limit goes away after the first game as well?

Having said that I agree that this is a big game for Fitz and the Cats,
in a stadium that has often been a hard place to earn a road victory.

There's a theory that a team improves the most between the first and
second games.  I can't say that I noticed any improvement based on the
radio play-by-play call, if anything the second game was a bit shakier 
than the first one, though at least the team now knows it has a field 
goal kicker that can come through in the clutch.  
--
Mike Nolan

From spiritu at northwestern.edu  Wed Sep 16 14:12:49 2009
From: spiritu at northwestern.edu (Jonathan Michael Hawkins)
Date: Wed Sep 16 14:12:58 2009
Subject: [NU Sports] Cats v. 'Cuse
In-Reply-To: <223fce250909160742j2544e57chf729a3c346649e97@mail.gmail.com>
References: <8CC044A3B4417C3-C38-13A20@webmail-d093.sysops.aol.com>
	<803014.9251.qm@web52907.mail.re2.yahoo.com>
	<fcb3ee270909160624q5a49aa6bybe6821a17321a004@mail.gmail.com>
	<223fce250909160742j2544e57chf729a3c346649e97@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <d477ce9c0909161212h30cb15b6o4f7a593e6deed072@mail.gmail.com>

Anyone in Austin meeting up for the game?  Is Legends still the place to
go?  I'm visiting family here this week and weekend and hate to miss the
game; I'd planned on watching it on the Syracuse All-Access site but of
course that's not available anymore so I'm hoping there's a watch party
somewhere.

If there's no watch party, looks like Time Warner in Austin offers one
weekend (Sat/Sun) of ESPN Gameplan for $24.99, the whole season is $135.00.
In case anyone would like to plan one. ;-)

Jon

On Wed, Sep 16, 2009 at 9:42 AM, Sportsbiz <sportsbiz@gmail.com> wrote:

> FSN has a national agreement with the Pac-10.  ESPN has an agreement with
> the Pac-10 for a few games but the conference's primary TV deal is with
> FSN,
> which is distributed to all FSN and Comcast regionals nationally,  It's the
> primary reason that the Pac-10 has had such little visibility in recent
> years (well, that and their games are played at 11:00pm in the east).Mark
>
> On Wed, Sep 16, 2009 at 9:24 AM, Jonathan Hodges
> <jonathanwhodges@gmail.com>wrote:
>
> > Really good news; as I mentioned earlier ESPN360.com is really great
> > assuming your ISP offers it.  And, of course, you can always go the PPV
> > route to watch on the TV.  Along with the BTN, you can get a ton of games
> > every Saturday with that combo.
> >
> > I know the Oregon/Purdue game was on FSN out west but was carried on
> > Comcast
> > Sports Net in Chicago; Versus has some west coast games as well (although
> > both networks are owned by Comcast so their availability on other systems
> > is
> > spotty at best).
> >
> > Jonathan
> >
> > On Tue, Sep 15, 2009 at 11:23 PM, SjT (Stephen J. Truog)
> > <sjtruog@yahoo.com>wrote:
> >
> > > > Precisely the reason all Big Ten teams should tell
> > > > prospective Big East opponents to 'take a walk' - your
> > > > conference is third-rate, and you signed a shameful bowl
> > > > agreement with the Evil Empire.? It is time that that we as
> > > > a conference quit lending our prestige to second- and
> > > > third-rate opponents, and quit lending our prestige to the
> > > > Evil Empire AT ALL...
> > >
> > > AMEN!
> > >
> > > I actually think that the Big Ten Network has spoiled fans and we may
> > soon
> > > demand TV for all games.
> > >
> > > What I wonder is how the Oregon-Purdue game last week (on FSN) was
> > > rebroadcast on the BTN later in the week -- could that perhaps happen
> > with
> > > NU-Cuse???
> > >
> > > GO CATS!!!
> > > -SjT
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > _______________________________________________
> > > nwu-sports site list
> > > nwu-sports@tssi.com
> > > http://romaine.tssi.com/mailman/listinfo/nwu-sports
> > >
> > _______________________________________________
> > nwu-sports site list
> > nwu-sports@tssi.com
> > http://romaine.tssi.com/mailman/listinfo/nwu-sports
> >
> _______________________________________________
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>
From jeffharristx at hotmail.com  Wed Sep 16 14:28:23 2009
From: jeffharristx at hotmail.com (Jeffrey M. Harris)
Date: Wed Sep 16 14:29:11 2009
Subject: [NU Sports] Cats v. 'Cuse
In-Reply-To: <d477ce9c0909161212h30cb15b6o4f7a593e6deed072@mail.gmail.com>
References: <8CC044A3B4417C3-C38-13A20@webmail-d093.sysops.aol.com>
	<803014.9251.qm@web52907.mail.re2.yahoo.com>
	<fcb3ee270909160624q5a49aa6bybe6821a17321a004@mail.gmail.com>
	<223fce250909160742j2544e57chf729a3c346649e97@mail.gmail.com> 
	<d477ce9c0909161212h30cb15b6o4f7a593e6deed072@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <BLU144-W226019A46A994D4D2DBE08DFE20@phx.gbl>


Jonathan:  NU Club of Austin still watches the games at Legends.  I'm pretty sure we're going to be there this Saturday; have been for the first 2 games.

Jeff Harris
WCAS 1993

> Date: Wed, 16 Sep 2009 14:12:49 -0500
> Subject: Re: [NU Sports] Cats v. 'Cuse
> From: spiritu@northwestern.edu
> To: nwu-sports@romaine.tssi.com
> CC: 
> 
> Anyone in Austin meeting up for the game?  Is Legends still the place to
> go?  I'm visiting family here this week and weekend and hate to miss the
> game; I'd planned on watching it on the Syracuse All-Access site but of
> course that's not available anymore so I'm hoping there's a watch party
> somewhere.
> 
> If there's no watch party, looks like Time Warner in Austin offers one
> weekend (Sat/Sun) of ESPN Gameplan for $24.99, the whole season is $135.00.
> In case anyone would like to plan one. ;-)
> 
> Jon
> 
> On Wed, Sep 16, 2009 at 9:42 AM, Sportsbiz <sportsbiz@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> > FSN has a national agreement with the Pac-10.  ESPN has an agreement with
> > the Pac-10 for a few games but the conference's primary TV deal is with
> > FSN,
> > which is distributed to all FSN and Comcast regionals nationally,  It's the
> > primary reason that the Pac-10 has had such little visibility in recent
> > years (well, that and their games are played at 11:00pm in the east).Mark
> >
> > On Wed, Sep 16, 2009 at 9:24 AM, Jonathan Hodges
> > <jonathanwhodges@gmail.com>wrote:
> >
> > > Really good news; as I mentioned earlier ESPN360.com is really great
> > > assuming your ISP offers it.  And, of course, you can always go the PPV
> > > route to watch on the TV.  Along with the BTN, you can get a ton of games
> > > every Saturday with that combo.
> > >
> > > I know the Oregon/Purdue game was on FSN out west but was carried on
> > > Comcast
> > > Sports Net in Chicago; Versus has some west coast games as well (although
> > > both networks are owned by Comcast so their availability on other systems
> > > is
> > > spotty at best).
> > >
> > > Jonathan
> > >
> > > On Tue, Sep 15, 2009 at 11:23 PM, SjT (Stephen J. Truog)
> > > <sjtruog@yahoo.com>wrote:
> > >
> > > > > Precisely the reason all Big Ten teams should tell
> > > > > prospective Big East opponents to 'take a walk' - your
> > > > > conference is third-rate, and you signed a shameful bowl
> > > > > agreement with the Evil Empire.? It is time that that we as
> > > > > a conference quit lending our prestige to second- and
> > > > > third-rate opponents, and quit lending our prestige to the
> > > > > Evil Empire AT ALL...
> > > >
> > > > AMEN!
> > > >
> > > > I actually think that the Big Ten Network has spoiled fans and we may
> > > soon
> > > > demand TV for all games.
> > > >
> > > > What I wonder is how the Oregon-Purdue game last week (on FSN) was
> > > > rebroadcast on the BTN later in the week -- could that perhaps happen
> > > with
> > > > NU-Cuse???
> > > >
> > > > GO CATS!!!
> > > > -SjT
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > _______________________________________________
> > > > nwu-sports site list
> > > > nwu-sports@tssi.com
> > > > http://romaine.tssi.com/mailman/listinfo/nwu-sports
> > > >
> > > _______________________________________________
> > > nwu-sports site list
> > > nwu-sports@tssi.com
> > > http://romaine.tssi.com/mailman/listinfo/nwu-sports
> > >
> > _______________________________________________
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> > nwu-sports@tssi.com
> > http://romaine.tssi.com/mailman/listinfo/nwu-sports
> >
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> nwu-sports@tssi.com
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From Hakirsch at aol.com  Wed Sep 16 14:40:05 2009
From: Hakirsch at aol.com (Hakirsch@aol.com)
Date: Wed Sep 16 14:40:42 2009
Subject: [NU Sports] A big test for Fitz this week
Message-ID: <cfe.5f79053d.37e29915@aol.com>

Looks like Cats are favored --and on the road  -4

Harry
From thiegs at umn.edu  Wed Sep 16 14:49:51 2009
From: thiegs at umn.edu (Joe Thiegs)
Date: Wed Sep 16 14:49:58 2009
Subject: [NU Sports] A big test for Fitz this week
In-Reply-To: <200909161848.n8GImXiF019000@romaine.tssi.com>
References: <647207.73662.qm@web36808.mail.mud.yahoo.com> from "Jim
	Leonard"	at Sep 16,
	2009 11:25:06 AM <200909161848.n8GImXiF019000@romaine.tssi.com>
Message-ID: <004001ca3706$daff5b20$90fe1160$@edu>

I have a theory--well, several of them, I suppose.  One of them, though, is
that Syracuse is better than anyone outside of upstate New York--and
probably most anyone in upstate New York--believes.  I'm not saying they're
necessarily good, just significantly better than almost everyone assumes in
light of their record the past couple of years, new coach, new starting QB,
etc.  

Consider exhibit 1:  Opening game vs. Minnesota.  After Minnesota scored
quickly and easily to start the game, the Orange really stiffened up, took a
lead, and took the Gophers to overtime before falling.  Minnesota, despite a
brutal schedule this season, by most accounts looks significantly improved
over last year's 7-6 team.  In Week 2, even with worries about distraction
with all the hubbub of the grand opening celebration for the new stadium,
the Gophers beat triple-option threat Air Force 20-13, holding the Falcons
to just three first half-points a week after AFA won 72-0 (sure, it was
against Nicholls State, but scoring over 70 against anyone not in D-II or
-III is still impressive in my book).

Consider exhibit 2:  Second game @ Penn State.  While the Orange only scored
seven points in a 28-7 loss, they had other opportunities to score (dropped
pass in the end zone) and held PSU to no more than a touchdown in any
quarter.  I read that at one point they kept PSU out of the end zone on four
straight plays when the Nittany Lions had 1st-and-goal at the Syracuse
2-yard line.  Against a top-10 team on the road, it could have been a lot
worse.

I fully expect the 'Cats to win, but I believe it will be a significantly
tougher test for NU than Towson and EMU (and considering we have had a hard
time putting opponents away, things could get interesting).

-Joe


-----Original Message-----
From: nwu-sports-bounces@tssi.com [mailto:nwu-sports-bounces@tssi.com] On
Behalf Of Mike Nolan
Sent: Wednesday, September 16, 2009 1:49 PM
To: Jim Leonard
Cc: Northwestern Wildcats
Subject: Re: [NU Sports] A big test for Fitz this week

> Fitz has better all-around talent than Syracuse and his players aren't
distracted with classes yet. I am hoping and expecting that Fitz can coach
his way to a victory this Saturday. 

I'm not so convinced that NU has noticeably more talent on its roster 
than Syracuse does.   How many 2, 3 and 4 star recruits are on both squads?

Classes not having started is not always a positive.  I know there is a
limit
to the number of players who can practice before the first day of classes,
but maybe that limit goes away after the first game as well?

Having said that I agree that this is a big game for Fitz and the Cats,
in a stadium that has often been a hard place to earn a road victory.

There's a theory that a team improves the most between the first and
second games.  I can't say that I noticed any improvement based on the
radio play-by-play call, if anything the second game was a bit shakier 
than the first one, though at least the team now knows it has a field 
goal kicker that can come through in the clutch.  
--
Mike Nolan

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From jonathanwhodges at gmail.com  Wed Sep 16 14:58:41 2009
From: jonathanwhodges at gmail.com (Jonathan Hodges)
Date: Wed Sep 16 14:59:11 2009
Subject: [NU Sports] A big test for Fitz this week
In-Reply-To: <004001ca3706$daff5b20$90fe1160$@edu>
References: <647207.73662.qm@web36808.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
	<200909161848.n8GImXiF019000@romaine.tssi.com> 
	<004001ca3706$daff5b20$90fe1160$@edu>
Message-ID: <fcb3ee270909161258s63b67e54hba011cf896fb1e8c@mail.gmail.com>

I agree that this will be a tough test for the Wildcats (note that the line
has dropped to NU -3 today); Syracuse is improved from last year and looks
to be a fundamentally sound team than NU saw last year, plus they have
playmaking WR Mike Williams back on the team, who has next-level talent.
They'll be fired up to win one for their new coach, and NU obviously did not
play well in the 2nd half last week.

We'll learn a lot about NU though, as the offense will finally open up the
playbook; through 2 weeks NU has run over twice the number of times that it
has attempted passes (and is 7th in FBS/I-A in number of rushing attempts
now) - don't expect that to continue.  The D will have to show up in this
game too, especially against the run.

In any case it will be interesting, and I'm thankful its available on
ESPN360.com.

Jonathan

On Wed, Sep 16, 2009 at 2:49 PM, Joe Thiegs <thiegs@umn.edu> wrote:

> I have a theory--well, several of them, I suppose.  One of them, though, is
> that Syracuse is better than anyone outside of upstate New York--and
> probably most anyone in upstate New York--believes.  I'm not saying they're
> necessarily good, just significantly better than almost everyone assumes in
> light of their record the past couple of years, new coach, new starting QB,
> etc.
>
> Consider exhibit 1:  Opening game vs. Minnesota.  After Minnesota scored
> quickly and easily to start the game, the Orange really stiffened up, took
> a
> lead, and took the Gophers to overtime before falling.  Minnesota, despite
> a
> brutal schedule this season, by most accounts looks significantly improved
> over last year's 7-6 team.  In Week 2, even with worries about distraction
> with all the hubbub of the grand opening celebration for the new stadium,
> the Gophers beat triple-option threat Air Force 20-13, holding the Falcons
> to just three first half-points a week after AFA won 72-0 (sure, it was
> against Nicholls State, but scoring over 70 against anyone not in D-II or
> -III is still impressive in my book).
>
> Consider exhibit 2:  Second game @ Penn State.  While the Orange only
> scored
> seven points in a 28-7 loss, they had other opportunities to score (dropped
> pass in the end zone) and held PSU to no more than a touchdown in any
> quarter.  I read that at one point they kept PSU out of the end zone on
> four
> straight plays when the Nittany Lions had 1st-and-goal at the Syracuse
> 2-yard line.  Against a top-10 team on the road, it could have been a lot
> worse.
>
> I fully expect the 'Cats to win, but I believe it will be a significantly
> tougher test for NU than Towson and EMU (and considering we have had a hard
> time putting opponents away, things could get interesting).
>
> -Joe
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: nwu-sports-bounces@tssi.com [mailto:nwu-sports-bounces@tssi.com] On
> Behalf Of Mike Nolan
> Sent: Wednesday, September 16, 2009 1:49 PM
> To: Jim Leonard
> Cc: Northwestern Wildcats
> Subject: Re: [NU Sports] A big test for Fitz this week
>
> > Fitz has better all-around talent than Syracuse and his players aren't
> distracted with classes yet. I am hoping and expecting that Fitz can coach
> his way to a victory this Saturday.
>
> I'm not so convinced that NU has noticeably more talent on its roster
> than Syracuse does.   How many 2, 3 and 4 star recruits are on both squads?
>
> Classes not having started is not always a positive.  I know there is a
> limit
> to the number of players who can practice before the first day of classes,
> but maybe that limit goes away after the first game as well?
>
> Having said that I agree that this is a big game for Fitz and the Cats,
> in a stadium that has often been a hard place to earn a road victory.
>
> There's a theory that a team improves the most between the first and
> second games.  I can't say that I noticed any improvement based on the
> radio play-by-play call, if anything the second game was a bit shakier
> than the first one, though at least the team now knows it has a field
> goal kicker that can come through in the clutch.
> --
> Mike Nolan
>
> _______________________________________________
> nwu-sports site list
> nwu-sports@tssi.com
> http://romaine.tssi.com/mailman/listinfo/nwu-sports
>
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From NEONRye at aol.com  Wed Sep 16 16:33:53 2009
From: NEONRye at aol.com (NEONRye@aol.com)
Date: Wed Sep 16 16:34:02 2009
Subject: [NU Sports] Tressel Under Heavy Fire
Message-ID: <d1f.4928ea13.37e2b3c1@aol.com>

As I noted right after the loss to USC, Tressel's approach was just too  
darned conservative.  Well, apparently "Buckeye Nation" agrees and "Sweater  
Vest Man" is now getting heavy flak:  
_http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/news/story?id=4477250_ (http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/news/story?id=4477250) 
 
Paul Levinson
From rstetson at capps-assoc.com  Wed Sep 16 22:37:00 2009
From: rstetson at capps-assoc.com (Roy Lamberton)
Date: Wed Sep 16 22:36:57 2009
Subject: [NU Sports] A big test for Fitz this week
In-Reply-To: <004001ca3706$daff5b20$90fe1160$@edu>
References: <647207.73662.qm@web36808.mail.mud.yahoo.com> from
	"Jim	Leonard"	at Sep 16,
	2009 11:25:06 AM <200909161848.n8GImXiF019000@romaine.tssi.com>
	<004001ca3706$daff5b20$90fe1160$@edu>
Message-ID: <004601ca3748$1dce1ae0$596a50a0$@com>

I think that Paulus is a better QB than anyone expected, and as Minny found
out, its hard to defense a guy you've never seen play anywhere before.

Fitz & Hank have the advantage here - they at least have seen him play
twice, and should have a decent idea of how to defend against his base
offense. Of course 'cuse's OC will also have a few new tricks up his sleeve
- and so the chess game continues.

The big question for Saturday about Syracuse is: "Who is the better judge of
QB talent, the Duke guys or the Syracuse guys?"

rsl

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-----Original Message-----
From: nwu-sports-bounces@tssi.com [mailto:nwu-sports-bounces@tssi.com] On
Behalf Of Joe Thiegs
Sent: Wednesday, September 16, 2009 3:50 PM
To: 'Northwestern Wildcats'
Subject: RE: [NU Sports] A big test for Fitz this week

I have a theory--well, several of them, I suppose.  One of them, though, is
that Syracuse is better than anyone outside of upstate New York--and
probably most anyone in upstate New York--believes.  I'm not saying they're
necessarily good, just significantly better than almost everyone assumes in
light of their record the past couple of years, new coach, new starting QB,
etc.  

Consider exhibit 1:  Opening game vs. Minnesota.  After Minnesota scored
quickly and easily to start the game, the Orange really stiffened up, took a
lead, and took the Gophers to overtime before falling.  Minnesota, despite a
brutal schedule this season, by most accounts looks significantly improved
over last year's 7-6 team.  In Week 2, even with worries about distraction
with all the hubbub of the grand opening celebration for the new stadium,
the Gophers beat triple-option threat Air Force 20-13, holding the Falcons
to just three first half-points a week after AFA won 72-0 (sure, it was
against Nicholls State, but scoring over 70 against anyone not in D-II or
-III is still impressive in my book).

Consider exhibit 2:  Second game @ Penn State.  While the Orange only scored
seven points in a 28-7 loss, they had other opportunities to score (dropped
pass in the end zone) and held PSU to no more than a touchdown in any
quarter.  I read that at one point they kept PSU out of the end zone on four
straight plays when the Nittany Lions had 1st-and-goal at the Syracuse
2-yard line.  Against a top-10 team on the road, it could have been a lot
worse.

I fully expect the 'Cats to win, but I believe it will be a significantly
tougher test for NU than Towson and EMU (and considering we have had a hard
time putting opponents away, things could get interesting).

-Joe


-----Original Message-----
From: nwu-sports-bounces@tssi.com [mailto:nwu-sports-bounces@tssi.com] On
Behalf Of Mike Nolan
Sent: Wednesday, September 16, 2009 1:49 PM
To: Jim Leonard
Cc: Northwestern Wildcats
Subject: Re: [NU Sports] A big test for Fitz this week

> Fitz has better all-around talent than Syracuse and his players aren't
distracted with classes yet. I am hoping and expecting that Fitz can coach
his way to a victory this Saturday. 

I'm not so convinced that NU has noticeably more talent on its roster 
than Syracuse does.   How many 2, 3 and 4 star recruits are on both squads?

Classes not having started is not always a positive.  I know there is a
limit
to the number of players who can practice before the first day of classes,
but maybe that limit goes away after the first game as well?

Having said that I agree that this is a big game for Fitz and the Cats,
in a stadium that has often been a hard place to earn a road victory.

There's a theory that a team improves the most between the first and
second games.  I can't say that I noticed any improvement based on the
radio play-by-play call, if anything the second game was a bit shakier 
than the first one, though at least the team now knows it has a field 
goal kicker that can come through in the clutch.  
--
Mike Nolan

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From Jeff.Beamsley at covisint.com  Thu Sep 17 07:06:29 2009
From: Jeff.Beamsley at covisint.com (Beamsley, Jeff)
Date: Thu Sep 17 07:06:42 2009
Subject: [NU Sports] A big test for Fitz this week
In-Reply-To: <004601ca3748$1dce1ae0$596a50a0$@com>
References: <647207.73662.qm@web36808.mail.mud.yahoo.com> from"Jim	Leonard"	at
	Sep 16, 2009 11:25:06 AM
	<200909161848.n8GImXiF019000@romaine.tssi.com><004001ca3706$daff5b20$90fe1160$@edu>
	<004601ca3748$1dce1ae0$596a50a0$@com>
Message-ID: <E7219AB80B8E354C9A22B0D2CB1EF5AE066FCB2D@nasa-dtw-ex004.nasa.cpwr.corp>

Even if he were the next coming of Joe Montana, you've only got him for a year.  Wouldn't most established programs defer to the younger guy with more eligibility?

I think it says a lot about how bare the cupboard was at Syracuse and how much the football program needed the PR boost of this move.

Don't get me wrong. I think it is great that Paulus has an opportunity to live out a dream and sell a few tickets for Syracuse.

I'm much more comfortable with the strategy we're seeing play out at NU.  We've got a "one year" QB too, but he's been in the program, earned the right to start, and his replacement is getting an opportunity to gain some experience without the pressure of having to win a game.

Jeff 


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To: 'Joe Thiegs'; 'Northwestern Wildcats'
Subject: RE: [NU Sports] A big test for Fitz this week

I think that Paulus is a better QB than anyone expected, and as Minny found out, its hard to defense a guy you've never seen play anywhere before.

Fitz & Hank have the advantage here - they at least have seen him play twice, and should have a decent idea of how to defend against his base offense. Of course 'cuse's OC will also have a few new tricks up his sleeve
- and so the chess game continues.

The big question for Saturday about Syracuse is: "Who is the better judge of QB talent, the Duke guys or the Syracuse guys?"

rsl

++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
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From: nwu-sports-bounces@tssi.com [mailto:nwu-sports-bounces@tssi.com] On Behalf Of Joe Thiegs
Sent: Wednesday, September 16, 2009 3:50 PM
To: 'Northwestern Wildcats'
Subject: RE: [NU Sports] A big test for Fitz this week

I have a theory--well, several of them, I suppose.  One of them, though, is that Syracuse is better than anyone outside of upstate New York--and probably most anyone in upstate New York--believes.  I'm not saying they're necessarily good, just significantly better than almost everyone assumes in light of their record the past couple of years, new coach, new starting QB, etc.  

Consider exhibit 1:  Opening game vs. Minnesota.  After Minnesota scored quickly and easily to start the game, the Orange really stiffened up, took a lead, and took the Gophers to overtime before falling.  Minnesota, despite a brutal schedule this season, by most accounts looks significantly improved over last year's 7-6 team.  In Week 2, even with worries about distraction with all the hubbub of the grand opening celebration for the new stadium, the Gophers beat triple-option threat Air Force 20-13, holding the Falcons to just three first half-points a week after AFA won 72-0 (sure, it was against Nicholls State, but scoring over 70 against anyone not in D-II or -III is still impressive in my book).

Consider exhibit 2:  Second game @ Penn State.  While the Orange only scored seven points in a 28-7 loss, they had other opportunities to score (dropped pass in the end zone) and held PSU to no more than a touchdown in any quarter.  I read that at one point they kept PSU out of the end zone on four straight plays when the Nittany Lions had 1st-and-goal at the Syracuse 2-yard line.  Against a top-10 team on the road, it could have been a lot worse.

I fully expect the 'Cats to win, but I believe it will be a significantly tougher test for NU than Towson and EMU (and considering we have had a hard time putting opponents away, things could get interesting).

-Joe


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Sent: Wednesday, September 16, 2009 1:49 PM
To: Jim Leonard
Cc: Northwestern Wildcats
Subject: Re: [NU Sports] A big test for Fitz this week

> Fitz has better all-around talent than Syracuse and his players aren't
distracted with classes yet. I am hoping and expecting that Fitz can coach his way to a victory this Saturday. 

I'm not so convinced that NU has noticeably more talent on its roster 
than Syracuse does.   How many 2, 3 and 4 star recruits are on both squads?

Classes not having started is not always a positive.  I know there is a limit to the number of players who can practice before the first day of classes, but maybe that limit goes away after the first game as well?

Having said that I agree that this is a big game for Fitz and the Cats, in a stadium that has often been a hard place to earn a road victory.

There's a theory that a team improves the most between the first and second games.  I can't say that I noticed any improvement based on the radio play-by-play call, if anything the second game was a bit shakier than the first one, though at least the team now knows it has a field goal kicker that can come through in the clutch.  
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From hakirsch at aol.com  Thu Sep 17 07:51:10 2009
From: hakirsch at aol.com (hakirsch@aol.com)
Date: Thu Sep 17 07:51:10 2009
Subject: [NU Sports] A big test for Fitz this week
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One year QB'S can turn programs around.  Wilson did it for The Illini in the 80's and recently  AAron Rodgers  did it for Cal 

Harry
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Date: Thu, 17 Sep 2009 08:06:29 
To: Northwestern Wildcats<nwu-sports@tssi.com>
Subject: RE: [NU Sports] A big test for Fitz this week


Even if he were the next coming of Joe Montana, you've only got him for a year.  Wouldn't most established programs defer to the younger guy with more eligibility?

I think it says a lot about how bare the cupboard was at Syracuse and how much the football program needed the PR boost of this move.

Don't get me wrong. I think it is great that Paulus has an opportunity to live out a dream and sell a few tickets for Syracuse.

I'm much more comfortable with the strategy we're seeing play out at NU.  We've got a "one year" QB too, but he's been in the program, earned the right to start, and his replacement is getting an opportunity to gain some experience without the pressure of having to win a game.

Jeff 


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I think that Paulus is a better QB than anyone expected, and as Minny found out, its hard to defense a guy you've never seen play anywhere before.

Fitz & Hank have the advantage here - they at least have seen him play twice, and should have a decent idea of how to defend against his base offense. Of course 'cuse's OC will also have a few new tricks up his sleeve
- and so the chess game continues.

The big question for Saturday about Syracuse is: "Who is the better judge of QB talent, the Duke guys or the Syracuse guys?"

rsl

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-----Original Message-----
From: nwu-sports-bounces@tssi.com [mailto:nwu-sports-bounces@tssi.com] On Behalf Of Joe Thiegs
Sent: Wednesday, September 16, 2009 3:50 PM
To: 'Northwestern Wildcats'
Subject: RE: [NU Sports] A big test for Fitz this week

I have a theory--well, several of them, I suppose.  One of them, though, is that Syracuse is better than anyone outside of upstate New York--and probably most anyone in upstate New York--believes.  I'm not saying they're necessarily good, just significantly better than almost everyone assumes in light of their record the past couple of years, new coach, new starting QB, etc.  

Consider exhibit 1:  Opening game vs. Minnesota.  After Minnesota scored quickly and easily to start the game, the Orange really stiffened up, took a lead, and took the Gophers to overtime before falling.  Minnesota, despite a brutal schedule this season, by most accounts looks significantly improved over last year's 7-6 team.  In Week 2, even with worries about distraction with all the hubbub of the grand opening celebration for the new stadium, the Gophers beat triple-option threat Air Force 20-13, holding the Falcons to just three first half-points a week after AFA won 72-0 (sure, it was against Nicholls State, but scoring over 70 against anyone not in D-II or -III is still impressive in my book).

Consider exhibit 2:  Second game @ Penn State.  While the Orange only scored seven points in a 28-7 loss, they had other opportunities to score (dropped pass in the end zone) and held PSU to no more than a touchdown in any quarter.  I read that at one point they kept PSU out of the end zone on four straight plays when the Nittany Lions had 1st-and-goal at the Syracuse 2-yard line.  Against a top-10 team on the road, it could have been a lot worse.

I fully expect the 'Cats to win, but I believe it will be a significantly tougher test for NU than Towson and EMU (and considering we have had a hard time putting opponents away, things could get interesting).

-Joe


-----Original Message-----
From: nwu-sports-bounces@tssi.com [mailto:nwu-sports-bounces@tssi.com] On Behalf Of Mike Nolan
Sent: Wednesday, September 16, 2009 1:49 PM
To: Jim Leonard
Cc: Northwestern Wildcats
Subject: Re: [NU Sports] A big test for Fitz this week

> Fitz has better all-around talent than Syracuse and his players aren't
distracted with classes yet. I am hoping and expecting that Fitz can coach his way to a victory this Saturday. 

I'm not so convinced that NU has noticeably more talent on its roster 
than Syracuse does.   How many 2, 3 and 4 star recruits are on both squads?

Classes not having started is not always a positive.  I know there is a limit to the number of players who can practice before the first day of classes, but maybe that limit goes away after the first game as well?

Having said that I agree that this is a big game for Fitz and the Cats, in a stadium that has often been a hard place to earn a road victory.

There's a theory that a team improves the most between the first and second games.  I can't say that I noticed any improvement based on the radio play-by-play call, if anything the second game was a bit shakier than the first one, though at least the team now knows it has a field goal kicker that can come through in the clutch.  
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From Jeff.Beamsley at covisint.com  Thu Sep 17 08:03:27 2009
From: Jeff.Beamsley at covisint.com (Beamsley, Jeff)
Date: Thu Sep 17 08:03:35 2009
Subject: [NU Sports] A big test for Fitz this week
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Harry,

I agree that those programs that need a turn around are willing to take
those chances.  Rodgers, however, was a JC transfer and played for Cal
for two years.  Wilson was a more complicated situation.  He intended to
play for two years but the NCAA objected to his JUCO transfer and he
ended up entering the NCAA supplemental draft.

Jeff



-----Original Message-----
From: hakirsch@aol.com [mailto:hakirsch@aol.com] 
Sent: Thursday, September 17, 2009 8:51 AM
To: Beamsley, Jeff; nwu-sports-bounces@tssi.com; Northwestern Wildcats
Subject: Re: [NU Sports] A big test for Fitz this week

One year QB'S can turn programs around.  Wilson did it for The Illini in
the 80's and recently  AAron Rodgers  did it for Cal 

Harry
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-----Original Message-----
From: "Beamsley, Jeff" <Jeff.Beamsley@covisint.com>

Date: Thu, 17 Sep 2009 08:06:29
To: Northwestern Wildcats<nwu-sports@tssi.com>
Subject: RE: [NU Sports] A big test for Fitz this week


Even if he were the next coming of Joe Montana, you've only got him for
a year.  Wouldn't most established programs defer to the younger guy
with more eligibility?

I think it says a lot about how bare the cupboard was at Syracuse and
how much the football program needed the PR boost of this move.

Don't get me wrong. I think it is great that Paulus has an opportunity
to live out a dream and sell a few tickets for Syracuse.

I'm much more comfortable with the strategy we're seeing play out at NU.
We've got a "one year" QB too, but he's been in the program, earned the
right to start, and his replacement is getting an opportunity to gain
some experience without the pressure of having to win a game.

Jeff 


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From: nwu-sports-bounces@tssi.com [mailto:nwu-sports-bounces@tssi.com]
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Sent: Wednesday, September 16, 2009 11:37 PM
To: 'Joe Thiegs'; 'Northwestern Wildcats'
Subject: RE: [NU Sports] A big test for Fitz this week

I think that Paulus is a better QB than anyone expected, and as Minny
found out, its hard to defense a guy you've never seen play anywhere
before.

Fitz & Hank have the advantage here - they at least have seen him play
twice, and should have a decent idea of how to defend against his base
offense. Of course 'cuse's OC will also have a few new tricks up his
sleeve
- and so the chess game continues.

The big question for Saturday about Syracuse is: "Who is the better
judge of QB talent, the Duke guys or the Syracuse guys?"

rsl

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-----Original Message-----
From: nwu-sports-bounces@tssi.com [mailto:nwu-sports-bounces@tssi.com]
On Behalf Of Joe Thiegs
Sent: Wednesday, September 16, 2009 3:50 PM
To: 'Northwestern Wildcats'
Subject: RE: [NU Sports] A big test for Fitz this week

I have a theory--well, several of them, I suppose.  One of them, though,
is that Syracuse is better than anyone outside of upstate New York--and
probably most anyone in upstate New York--believes.  I'm not saying
they're necessarily good, just significantly better than almost everyone
assumes in light of their record the past couple of years, new coach,
new starting QB, etc.  

Consider exhibit 1:  Opening game vs. Minnesota.  After Minnesota scored
quickly and easily to start the game, the Orange really stiffened up,
took a lead, and took the Gophers to overtime before falling.
Minnesota, despite a brutal schedule this season, by most accounts looks
significantly improved over last year's 7-6 team.  In Week 2, even with
worries about distraction with all the hubbub of the grand opening
celebration for the new stadium, the Gophers beat triple-option threat
Air Force 20-13, holding the Falcons to just three first half-points a
week after AFA won 72-0 (sure, it was against Nicholls State, but
scoring over 70 against anyone not in D-II or -III is still impressive
in my book).

Consider exhibit 2:  Second game @ Penn State.  While the Orange only
scored seven points in a 28-7 loss, they had other opportunities to
score (dropped pass in the end zone) and held PSU to no more than a
touchdown in any quarter.  I read that at one point they kept PSU out of
the end zone on four straight plays when the Nittany Lions had
1st-and-goal at the Syracuse 2-yard line.  Against a top-10 team on the
road, it could have been a lot worse.

I fully expect the 'Cats to win, but I believe it will be a
significantly tougher test for NU than Towson and EMU (and considering
we have had a hard time putting opponents away, things could get
interesting).

-Joe


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On Behalf Of Mike Nolan
Sent: Wednesday, September 16, 2009 1:49 PM
To: Jim Leonard
Cc: Northwestern Wildcats
Subject: Re: [NU Sports] A big test for Fitz this week

> Fitz has better all-around talent than Syracuse and his players aren't
distracted with classes yet. I am hoping and expecting that Fitz can
coach his way to a victory this Saturday. 

I'm not so convinced that NU has noticeably more talent on its roster 
than Syracuse does.   How many 2, 3 and 4 star recruits are on both
squads?

Classes not having started is not always a positive.  I know there is a
limit to the number of players who can practice before the first day of
classes, but maybe that limit goes away after the first game as well?

Having said that I agree that this is a big game for Fitz and the Cats,
in a stadium that has often been a hard place to earn a road victory.

There's a theory that a team improves the most between the first and
second games.  I can't say that I noticed any improvement based on the
radio play-by-play call, if anything the second game was a bit shakier
than the first one, though at least the team now knows it has a field
goal kicker that can come through in the clutch.  
--
Mike Nolan

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From mlinhardt at netzero.com  Thu Sep 17 08:08:33 2009
From: mlinhardt at netzero.com (mlinhardt@netzero.com)
Date: Thu Sep 17 08:11:13 2009
Subject: [NU Sports] Syracuse watching in the north burbs
Message-ID: <20090917.080833.12505.0@webmail07.dca.untd.com>

We are headed to Buffalo Wild Wings in Vernon Hills if we can't find any other north/northwest suburban group watching the game.

We have no desire to head into the city(Lion's Head) especially for a night game.

Does anybody know of any north/northwest suburban watching places?

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From CHerron604 at aol.com  Thu Sep 17 19:50:30 2009
From: CHerron604 at aol.com (CHerron604@aol.com)
Date: Thu Sep 17 19:50:57 2009
Subject: [NU Sports] A big test for Fitz this week
Message-ID: <d5c.49ffba86.37e43356@aol.com>

The line opening at minus 4 means wiser people than us consider that the  
Cats are better than the Orange
 
The line moving to minus 3 doesn't reflect on either team's quality - it  
means too much money was flowing into the Syracuse side.
 
Dropping the NU number should help more money to flow to that side.
 
Chuck Herron   Tech '85
 
 
In a message dated 9/16/2009 2:59:49 P.M. Central Daylight Time,  
jonathanwhodges@gmail.com writes:

I agree  that this will be a tough test for the Wildcats (note that the line
has  dropped to NU -3 today); Syracuse is improved from last year and looks
to  be a fundamentally sound team than NU saw last year, plus they  have
playmaking WR Mike Williams back on the team, who has next-level  talent.
They'll be fired up to win one for their new coach, and NU  obviously did 
not
play well in the 2nd half last week.

We'll learn a  lot about NU though, as the offense will finally open up the
playbook;  through 2 weeks NU has run over twice the number of times that it
has  attempted passes (and is 7th in FBS/I-A in number of rushing attempts
now)  - don't expect that to continue.  The D will have to show up in  this
game too, especially against the run.

In any case it will be  interesting, and I'm thankful its available  on
ESPN360.com.

Jonathan

On Wed, Sep 16, 2009 at 2:49 PM, Joe  Thiegs <thiegs@umn.edu> wrote:

> I have a theory--well,  several of them, I suppose.  One of them, though, 
is
> that  Syracuse is better than anyone outside of upstate New York--and
>  probably most anyone in upstate New York--believes.  I'm not saying  
they're
> necessarily good, just significantly better than almost  everyone assumes 
in
> light of their record the past couple of years,  new coach, new starting 
QB,
> etc.
>
> Consider exhibit  1:  Opening game vs. Minnesota.  After Minnesota scored
>  quickly and easily to start the game, the Orange really stiffened up,  
took
> a
> lead, and took the Gophers to overtime before  falling.  Minnesota, 
despite
> a
> brutal schedule this  season, by most accounts looks significantly 
improved
> over last year's  7-6 team.  In Week 2, even with worries about 
distraction
> with  all the hubbub of the grand opening celebration for the new stadium,
>  the Gophers beat triple-option threat Air Force 20-13, holding the  
Falcons
> to just three first half-points a week after AFA won 72-0  (sure, it was
> against Nicholls State, but scoring over 70 against  anyone not in D-II or
> -III is still impressive in my  book).
>
> Consider exhibit 2:  Second game @ Penn  State.  While the Orange only
> scored
> seven points in a  28-7 loss, they had other opportunities to score 
(dropped
> pass in the  end zone) and held PSU to no more than a touchdown in any
>  quarter.  I read that at one point they kept PSU out of the end zone  on
> four
> straight plays when the Nittany Lions had 1st-and-goal  at the Syracuse
> 2-yard line.  Against a top-10 team on the road,  it could have been a lot
> worse.
>
> I fully expect the  'Cats to win, but I believe it will be a significantly
> tougher test  for NU than Towson and EMU (and considering we have had a 
hard
> time  putting opponents away, things could get interesting).
>
>  -Joe
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From:  nwu-sports-bounces@tssi.com [mailto:nwu-sports-bounces@tssi.com] On
>  Behalf Of Mike Nolan
> Sent: Wednesday, September 16, 2009 1:49  PM
> To: Jim Leonard
> Cc: Northwestern Wildcats
> Subject:  Re: [NU Sports] A big test for Fitz this week
>
> > Fitz has  better all-around talent than Syracuse and his players aren't
>  distracted with classes yet. I am hoping and expecting that Fitz can  
coach
> his way to a victory this Saturday.
>
> I'm not so  convinced that NU has noticeably more talent on its roster
> than  Syracuse does.   How many 2, 3 and 4 star recruits are on both  
squads?
>
> Classes not having started is not always a  positive.  I know there is a
> limit
> to the number of  players who can practice before the first day of 
classes,
> but maybe  that limit goes away after the first game as well?
>
> Having said  that I agree that this is a big game for Fitz and the Cats,
> in a  stadium that has often been a hard place to earn a road  victory.
>
> There's a theory that a team improves the most  between the first and
> second games.  I can't say that I noticed  any improvement based on the
> radio play-by-play call, if anything the  second game was a bit shakier
> than the first one, though at least the  team now knows it has a field
> goal kicker that can come through in the  clutch.
> --
> Mike Nolan
>
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From CHerron604 at aol.com  Thu Sep 17 19:52:12 2009
From: CHerron604 at aol.com (CHerron604@aol.com)
Date: Thu Sep 17 19:52:15 2009
Subject: [NU Sports] Tressel Under Heavy Fire
Message-ID: <c7b.5dc79d9c.37e433bc@aol.com>

We can only pray that they chase him out of Columbus - the probability of  
bringing in somebody better than Tressel has to be incredibly low...
 
Chuck Herron   Tech '85
 
 
In a message dated 9/16/2009 4:34:22 P.M. Central Daylight Time,  
NEONRye@aol.com writes:

As I  noted right after the loss to USC, Tressel's approach was just too   
darned conservative.  Well, apparently "Buckeye Nation" agrees and  
"Sweater  
Vest Man" is now getting heavy flak:   
_http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/news/story?id=4477250_  
(http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/news/story?id=4477250) 

Paul  Levinson
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From spiritu at northwestern.edu  Thu Sep 17 22:23:48 2009
From: spiritu at northwestern.edu (Jonathan Michael Hawkins)
Date: Thu Sep 17 22:24:57 2009
Subject: [NU Sports] Syracuse watching in the north burbs
In-Reply-To: <20090917.080833.12505.0@webmail07.dca.untd.com>
References: <20090917.080833.12505.0@webmail07.dca.untd.com>
Message-ID: <d477ce9c0909172023i1799f008u46b3f5b6651f965e@mail.gmail.com>

Late word from Lion's Head is that the game isn't on there; they recommended
checking Mullen's or Finn McCool's.  And there's always Tommy Nevin's, I
suppose.

I have no idea why Lion's Head wouldn't be able to get ESPN Gameplan; does
anyone know about this?

Jon

On Thu, Sep 17, 2009 at 8:08 AM, mlinhardt@netzero.com <
mlinhardt@netzero.com> wrote:

> We are headed to Buffalo Wild Wings in Vernon Hills if we can't find any
> other north/northwest suburban group watching the game.
>
> We have no desire to head into the city(Lion's Head) especially for a night
> game.
>
> Does anybody know of any north/northwest suburban watching places?
>
> ____________________________________________________________
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>
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From tkmaycock at yahoo.com  Fri Sep 18 07:33:55 2009
From: tkmaycock at yahoo.com (Tom Maycock)
Date: Fri Sep 18 07:34:01 2009
Subject: [NU Sports] Ugh, injuries
In-Reply-To: <d477ce9c0909172023i1799f008u46b3f5b6651f965e@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <518684.4315.qm@web33105.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

According to the Trib, Jeravin Matthews, Stephen Simmons, Sherrick McManis, and Justan Vaughan are all listed as "questionable". Ouch. The CB situation is particularly scary, but losing Simmons is also disconcerting. I noticed he was limping a bit after his nifty TD run last week. 

Hoping at least some of them can be ready to go on Saturday. 

Tom

From jonathanwhodges at gmail.com  Fri Sep 18 07:50:53 2009
From: jonathanwhodges at gmail.com (Jonathan Hodges)
Date: Fri Sep 18 07:51:34 2009
Subject: [NU Sports] Ugh, injuries
In-Reply-To: <518684.4315.qm@web33105.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
References: <d477ce9c0909172023i1799f008u46b3f5b6651f965e@mail.gmail.com> 
	<518684.4315.qm@web33105.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <fcb3ee270909180550w11024096w1109957973e3147d@mail.gmail.com>

Not good news on the injury front, especially after losing so many guys last
season (although NU did have a lot of backups who stepped up on the way to 9
wins).

McManis has had a hamstring issue since camp and has been limited and was
held out last week (and we saw EMU pick on what was his side a lot).  Vaughn
came out in the 4th quarter, which meant redshirt freshman Demetrius Dugar
is the CB - which won't be good against a team with some talent at the WR
position like Syracuse.

And despite having an RB by committee, losing your most experienced runner
is never good, hopefully Simmons can see the field Saturday (he's also
pretty solid on kickoff returns).

Jonathan

On Fri, Sep 18, 2009 at 7:33 AM, Tom Maycock <tkmaycock@yahoo.com> wrote:

> According to the Trib, Jeravin Matthews, Stephen Simmons, Sherrick McManis,
> and Justan Vaughan are all listed as "questionable". Ouch. The CB situation
> is particularly scary, but losing Simmons is also disconcerting. I noticed
> he was limping a bit after his nifty TD run last week.
>
> Hoping at least some of them can be ready to go on Saturday.
>
> Tom
>
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From rstetson at capps-assoc.com  Fri Sep 18 08:18:49 2009
From: rstetson at capps-assoc.com (Roy Lamberton)
Date: Fri Sep 18 08:18:41 2009
Subject: [NU Sports] Ugh, injuries
In-Reply-To: <fcb3ee270909180550w11024096w1109957973e3147d@mail.gmail.com>
References: <d477ce9c0909172023i1799f008u46b3f5b6651f965e@mail.gmail.com>
	<518684.4315.qm@web33105.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
	<fcb3ee270909180550w11024096w1109957973e3147d@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <011801ca3862$8f877490$ae965db0$@com>

At issue is whether our guys in the defensive backfield step up and play, or
get picked on and show why they are #2.

A good game plan always tries out both sides of the defense early in the
game to see who is covering what and how well they are doing. EMU knew early
on apparently, that McManis would not be out there, and they visited his
zone early and often (by news accounts). Expect 'Cuse to do the same

BTW we will be chatting from my grandson's birthday party - maybe even
watching if we can get the cable to work right.

rsl 

++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
Roy S. Lamberton - Senior Associate & Unix Guru.
Computer Applications & Support Associates
-------------------- Also ----------------------
Commissioner Delaware American Legion Baseball
Retired Senior Chief Cryptologic Technician [R]
Northwestern University - Speech 1974 - 
Chi Phi: Pi 1974, KD 1968
Publisher Emeritus: Purple Reign (Fox Sports)
==========  Go Cats -? Beat 'em All  ===========
So...
     How's that "hope" and "Change"
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================================================


-----Original Message-----
From: nwu-sports-bounces@tssi.com [mailto:nwu-sports-bounces@tssi.com] On
Behalf Of Jonathan Hodges
Sent: Friday, September 18, 2009 8:51 AM
To: Tom Maycock
Cc: nwu-sports@tssi.com
Subject: Re: [NU Sports] Ugh, injuries

Not good news on the injury front, especially after losing so many guys last
season (although NU did have a lot of backups who stepped up on the way to 9
wins).

McManis has had a hamstring issue since camp and has been limited and was
held out last week (and we saw EMU pick on what was his side a lot).  Vaughn
came out in the 4th quarter, which meant redshirt freshman Demetrius Dugar
is the CB - which won't be good against a team with some talent at the WR
position like Syracuse.

And despite having an RB by committee, losing your most experienced runner
is never good, hopefully Simmons can see the field Saturday (he's also
pretty solid on kickoff returns).

Jonathan

On Fri, Sep 18, 2009 at 7:33 AM, Tom Maycock <tkmaycock@yahoo.com> wrote:

> According to the Trib, Jeravin Matthews, Stephen Simmons, Sherrick
McManis,
> and Justan Vaughan are all listed as "questionable". Ouch. The CB
situation
> is particularly scary, but losing Simmons is also disconcerting. I noticed
> he was limping a bit after his nifty TD run last week.
>
> Hoping at least some of them can be ready to go on Saturday.
>
> Tom
>
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From tbng at comcast.net  Fri Sep 18 08:33:32 2009
From: tbng at comcast.net (Dennis W. Brandt)
Date: Fri Sep 18 08:33:53 2009
Subject: [NU Sports] DirecTV ESPN Game Plan
Message-ID: <F1393BF2D3C44683B721DC779D5BD5AA@DennisMachine>

Tune in to channel 791 after you fork over your $25.  Ouch!
From tkmaycock at yahoo.com  Fri Sep 18 09:19:48 2009
From: tkmaycock at yahoo.com (Tom Maycock)
Date: Fri Sep 18 09:20:06 2009
Subject: [NU Sports] Ugh, injuries
In-Reply-To: <fcb3ee270909180550w11024096w1109957973e3147d@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <452706.62992.qm@web33105.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

> McManis has had a hamstring issue since camp and has been
> limited and was held out last week (and we saw EMU pick on
> what was his side a lot).? Vaughn came out in the 4th
> quarter, which meant redshirt freshman Demetrius Dugar is
> the CB - which won't be good against a team with some
> talent at the WR position like Syracuse.
> 
> And despite having an RB by committee, losing your most
> experienced runner is never good, hopefully Simmons can see
> the field Saturday (he's also pretty solid on kickoff
> returns).

Yeah, my thoughts exactly. I figure McManis is probably the MVP on defense right now--top of my list of guys I didn't want to see miss any snaps. To be down to a 3rd string CB is really unfortunate, but Dugar seemed to do OK when he was in there. 

I was really impressed with Simmons last week, both running and returning kicks. Really hope he is able to go. Especially if Matthews is still out. 

Tom


From tbng at comcast.net  Fri Sep 18 09:26:01 2009
From: tbng at comcast.net (Dennis W. Brandt)
Date: Fri Sep 18 09:26:09 2009
Subject: [NU Sports] Ugh, injuries
References: <452706.62992.qm@web33105.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <3D2732EC3953456989025B7D420A3483@DennisMachine>

> I was really impressed with Simmons last week, both running and returning 
> kicks. Really hope he is able to go. Especially if Matthews is still out.

We may get to see if Mr. Fields can be the next Mr. Sutton.  And, if nothing 
else, are subs will be getting plenty of playing time.  Win this game and it 
is only for the best long-term. 

From NEONRye at aol.com  Fri Sep 18 12:55:32 2009
From: NEONRye at aol.com (NEONRye@aol.com)
Date: Fri Sep 18 12:55:48 2009
Subject: [NU Sports] Update on 'Cats Hoops Recruiting
Message-ID: <bcc.55fd66ac.37e52394@aol.com>

Carmody and company have some top prospects in their recruiting  sights.  
Let's hope they bag their targets:
 
_http://www.chicagotribune.com/sports/college/northwestern/chi-18-northweste
rn-basketball-web-sep18,0,1965001.story_ 
(http://www.chicagotribune.com/sports/college/northwestern/chi-18-northwestern-basketball-web-sep18,0,1965001.s
tory) 
 
Paul Levinson
From martinitis at aol.com  Fri Sep 18 16:49:40 2009
From: martinitis at aol.com (martinitis@aol.com)
Date: Fri Sep 18 16:43:28 2009
Subject: [NU Sports] Ugh, injuries
Message-ID: <2010268934-1253310222-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-785173018-@bda546.bisx.prod.on.blackberry>

Just for  the record Gentlemen .. I don't fret too much Saturday's game and am very excited about the prospects.  Of course you never know what might happen....but I for one believe we will beat SYR handily.
The defense will get serious,  and the combination of last year's Kafka , and change up that is Persa will far outshine Paulas.  And I'm as impressed with Beef n Chedder, Schmidt and Concannon as I am with Simmons.  Smith can handle returns.
This week the Wildcats turn it on.
Lou Martinaitis------Original Message------From: Jonathan HodgesSender: nwu-sports-bounces@tssi.comTo: Tom MaycockCc: nwu-sports@tssi.comSubject: Re: [NU Sports] Ugh, injuriesSent: Sep 18, 2009 5:50 AM
Not good news on the injury front, especially after losing so many guys lastseason (although NU did have a lot of backups who stepped up on the way to 9wins).
McManis has had a hamstring issue since camp and has been limited and washeld out last week (and we saw EMU pick on what was his side a lot).  Vaughncame out in the 4th quarter, which meant redshirt freshman Demetrius Dugaris the CB - which won't be good against a team with some talent at the WRposition like Syracuse.
And despite having an RB by committee, losing your most experienced runneris never good, hopefully Simmons can see the field Saturday (he's alsopretty solid on kickoff returns).
Jonathan
On Fri, Sep 18, 2009 at 7:33 AM, Tom Maycock <tkmaycock@yahoo.com> wrote:
> According to the Trib, Jeravin Matthews, Stephen Simmons, Sherrick McManis,> and Justan Vaughan are all listed as "questionable". Ouch. The CB situation> is particularly scary, but losing Simmons is also disconcerting. I noticed> he was limping a bit after his nifty TD run last week.>> Hoping at least some of them can be ready to go on Saturday.>> Tom>> _______________________________________________> nwu-sports site list> nwu-sports@tssi.com> http://romaine.tssi.com/mailman/listinfo/nwu-sports>_______________________________________________nwu-sports site listnwu-sports@tssi.comhttp://romaine.tssi.com/mailman/listinfo/nwu-sports

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From johnl at mac.com  Fri Sep 18 23:32:53 2009
From: johnl at mac.com (Labbe John)
Date: Fri Sep 18 23:33:01 2009
Subject: [NU Sports] Syracuse watching in the north burbs
In-Reply-To: <7690A8B9-98F8-449F-85BE-1D6CD7D066E9@me.com>
References: <20090917.080833.12505.0@webmail07.dca.untd.com>
	<d477ce9c0909172023i1799f008u46b3f5b6651f965e@mail.gmail.com>
	<7690A8B9-98F8-449F-85BE-1D6CD7D066E9@me.com>
Message-ID: <8377BDA9-5704-42B4-BAE9-546F5C049FDA@mac.com>

FWIW, regarding Lion Head Pub, I did receive the following message in  
an NU Club of Chicago e-mail on Thursday afternoon:

CANCELLED - Syracuse Game Watch at Lion Head Pub - Saturday, September  
19

The 'Cats are playing Syracuse this Saturday on ESPN GAME PLAN  
package.  Unfortunately, Lion Head Pub does not carry this package and  
it was a "last second" decision for the game to be aired on this  
station.   As a result, the NU CLUB of CHICAGO and the Northwestern  
Gridiron Network will NOT be hosting a Lion Head  Game Watch Party  
this weekend.  However, we do want to invite you to the Lion Head Pub  
on Oct. 3rd to wear the purple and watch the 'Cats take on Purdue!

You can still watch the game at a few locations in Evanston and  
Chicago. Tommy Nevin's, Mullen'sand Finn McCool's.


>
> On Sep 17, 2009, at 10:23 PM, Jonathan Michael Hawkins wrote:
>
>> Late word from Lion's Head is that the game isn't on there; they  
>> recommended
>> checking Mullen's or Finn McCool's.  And there's always Tommy  
>> Nevin's, I
>> suppose.
>>
>> I have no idea why Lion's Head wouldn't be able to get ESPN  
>> Gameplan; does
>> anyone know about this?
>>
>> Jon
>>
>> On Thu, Sep 17, 2009 at 8:08 AM, mlinhardt@netzero.com <
>> mlinhardt@netzero.com> wrote:
>>
>>> We are headed to Buffalo Wild Wings in Vernon Hills if we can't  
>>> find any
>>> other north/northwest suburban group watching the game.
>>>
>>> We have no desire to head into the city(Lion's Head) especially  
>>> for a night
>>> game.
>>>
>>> Does anybody know of any north/northwest suburban watching places?
>>>
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From johnl at mac.com  Sat Sep 19 09:30:05 2009
From: johnl at mac.com (Labbe John)
Date: Sat Sep 19 09:30:26 2009
Subject: [NU Sports] DirecTV ESPN Game Plan
In-Reply-To: <F1393BF2D3C44683B721DC779D5BD5AA@DennisMachine>
References: <F1393BF2D3C44683B721DC779D5BD5AA@DennisMachine>
Message-ID: <990A00A4-878B-4E06-BC5F-C43E3B5077FE@mac.com>

Dennis,

So it sounds like you were able to buy the GamePlan package for just  
this weekend without subscribing for the season?  Did you have to call  
or did you subscribe online?  I had only looked online and I only saw  
the season subscription.

I'll have to decide whether to fork over the $25 or just watch it on  
ESPN360, which I can hook up to my TV, but the picture isn't great,  I  
can't use the DVR that way, and I can't watch if I run out to the  
kitchen.  Then again, I hate the prospect of paying for what will  
likely be a Syracuse-biased broadcast.

John




On Sep 18, 2009, at 8:33 AM, Dennis W. Brandt wrote:

> Tune in to channel 791 after you fork over your $25.  Ouch!
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From rstetson at capps-assoc.com  Sat Sep 19 12:07:19 2009
From: rstetson at capps-assoc.com (Roy Lamberton)
Date: Sat Sep 19 12:07:10 2009
Subject: [NU Sports] Chat during the Game
Message-ID: <000601ca394b$a56153f0$f023fbd0$@com>

Will be on the Scout.com web chat - 

http://client1.addonchat.com/sc.php?id=122893

see ya there.

rsl

++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
Roy S. Lamberton - Senior Associate & Unix Guru.
Computer Applications & Support Associates
-------------------- Also ----------------------
Commissioner Delaware American Legion Baseball
Retired Senior Chief Cryptologic Technician [R]
Northwestern University - Speech 1974 - 
Chi Phi: Pi 1974, KD 1968
Publisher Emeritus: Purple Reign (Fox Sports)
==========  Go Cats -? Beat 'em All  ===========
So...
     How's that "hope" and "Change"
     Working for ya?

Don't re-elect nobody, not even yo mama!
================================================



From neonrye at aol.com  Sat Sep 19 14:16:49 2009
From: neonrye at aol.com (neonrye@aol.com)
Date: Sat Sep 19 14:17:11 2009
Subject: [NU Sports] Minnesota Injury Alert
Message-ID: <8CC0774DF1AC676-7714-3DB3@webmail-d089.sysops.aol.com>

Watching last few minutes of Cal's win over Gophers.? Before giving the news, Cal looks very good.? Decent effort by Minny, but they finally lost to a bettter team.? Jahvid Best is a stud back.

But here's the key for 'Cat fans:? Eric Decker, Gophers' outstanding wide receiver, hurt his ankle when tackled on sideline with a little over 2 minutes to play.? He was shown getting ankle iced on Minny bench.? We'll see whether he is back for next week's home BT against the Gophers.? If he is out, Minny attack will be extremely hampered.


Paul Levinson
From sjtruog at yahoo.com  Sat Sep 19 14:20:24 2009
From: sjtruog at yahoo.com (SjT (Stephen J. Truog))
Date: Sat Sep 19 14:20:32 2009
Subject: [NU Sports] Big Ten early games ...
Message-ID: <498311.58555.qm@web52905.mail.re2.yahoo.com>

Well, after the two mega-matchups and other close games in league play last weekend, this one seems like a downer ... maybe we're all just itchin' for conference play to begin next week. Instead, we get endless discussion on how much Florida is going to beat Tennessee by this week.

And going off on an aside there ... I just don't get this story. For one, what did Kiffin say that was so offensive to Gator Nation??? That they were looking forward to beating the Gators? What is he supposed to do, never speak of daring to defeat the sacred Urban Meyer and Florida???

And secondly, for someone who wears his morality on his sleeve almost as much as his quarterback, why is Urban Meyer such a "duck without the U" as a football coach? He has a history of running it up, or calling timeouts late or throwing with huge leads or kicking field goals with seconds left ... etc. You can't be the good guy AND the bad guy at the same time, Urban. Either quit with the sanctimonious attitude or start behaving more sportsmanlike on the field!

But anyway, what does it say about a league when there's such a gap between top and ... well, not bottom but middle??? Back to the Big Ten!

* MINNESOTA put up a heck of a fight against Cal, especially after looking like they'd get blown out early ... but they just couldn't pull it out late. Still, a strong performance and if nothing else, it gave us views of the new stadium in the daylight and it looks spectacular! LOVE the brick, love the skyline view and love the big board. After a sluggish opening, the Gophers finally came to play today and Decker stepped up big time on the big stage.

* Speaking of teams that finally opened up their offenses, where was this OHIO STATE team last week? The D dominated the Trojans and sure didn't get this type of help. A nice thumping of Toledo for OSU, though.

* MICHIGAN followed up their big win with a clobbering of EMU. I think I need to revise that preseason prediction and put the Wolverines right up there in the Rose Bowl mix.

* PENN STATE won another game unimpressively - they better get their focus fast with Iowa coming in next week.

* WISCONSIN also finally crushed a cupcake ... but they're looking a good step and a half behind all of the league teams mentioned above.

* And finally, just when I start to think PURDUE won't be so bad without Joe Tiller, they flop at home to Northern Illinois. Ugh!

Hopefully the afternoon games will be better. I think Zona-Iowa will be a nailbiter and could be trouble for the bumblebees ... and I hope MSU can stay close to the Evil Empire in South Bend and maybe start to put a nail in their B(C)S hopes, because Purdue sure won't.

GO CATS!!!
-SjT



* * * * * * * * *
STEPHEN J. TRUOG
sjtruog@yahoo.com
GO CATS!!!


      

From hakirsch at aol.com  Sat Sep 19 14:36:59 2009
From: hakirsch at aol.com (hakirsch@aol.com)
Date: Sat Sep 19 14:37:07 2009
Subject: [NU Sports] Big Ten early games ...
In-Reply-To: <498311.58555.qm@web52905.mail.re2.yahoo.com>
References: <498311.58555.qm@web52905.mail.re2.yahoo.com>
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Steven

Its called hype.  Absolutely agree with you that kiffen's comments were hardly anything.  The bulletin board stuff normally occurs the week prior

Harry
Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry

-----Original Message-----
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Date: Sat, 19 Sep 2009 12:20:24 
To: <nwu-sports@tssi.com>
Subject: [NU Sports] Big Ten early games ...


Well, after the two mega-matchups and other close games in league play last weekend, this one seems like a downer ... maybe we're all just itchin' for conference play to begin next week. Instead, we get endless discussion on how much Florida is going to beat Tennessee by this week.

And going off on an aside there ... I just don't get this story. For one, what did Kiffin say that was so offensive to Gator Nation??? That they were looking forward to beating the Gators? What is he supposed to do, never speak of daring to defeat the sacred Urban Meyer and Florida???

And secondly, for someone who wears his morality on his sleeve almost as much as his quarterback, why is Urban Meyer such a "duck without the U" as a football coach? He has a history of running it up, or calling timeouts late or throwing with huge leads or kicking field goals with seconds left ... etc. You can't be the good guy AND the bad guy at the same time, Urban. Either quit with the sanctimonious attitude or start behaving more sportsmanlike on the field!

But anyway, what does it say about a league when there's such a gap between top and ... well, not bottom but middle??? Back to the Big Ten!

* MINNESOTA put up a heck of a fight against Cal, especially after looking like they'd get blown out early ... but they just couldn't pull it out late. Still, a strong performance and if nothing else, it gave us views of the new stadium in the daylight and it looks spectacular! LOVE the brick, love the skyline view and love the big board. After a sluggish opening, the Gophers finally came to play today and Decker stepped up big time on the big stage.

* Speaking of teams that finally opened up their offenses, where was this OHIO STATE team last week? The D dominated the Trojans and sure didn't get this type of help. A nice thumping of Toledo for OSU, though.

* MICHIGAN followed up their big win with a clobbering of EMU. I think I need to revise that preseason prediction and put the Wolverines right up there in the Rose Bowl mix.

* PENN STATE won another game unimpressively - they better get their focus fast with Iowa coming in next week.

* WISCONSIN also finally crushed a cupcake ... but they're looking a good step and a half behind all of the league teams mentioned above.

* And finally, just when I start to think PURDUE won't be so bad without Joe Tiller, they flop at home to Northern Illinois. Ugh!

Hopefully the afternoon games will be better. I think Zona-Iowa will be a nailbiter and could be trouble for the bumblebees ... and I hope MSU can stay close to the Evil Empire in South Bend and maybe start to put a nail in their B(C)S hopes, because Purdue sure won't.

GO CATS!!!
-SjT



* * * * * * * * *
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sjtruog@yahoo.com
GO CATS!!!


      

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From MHRJGScott at aol.com  Sat Sep 19 14:40:11 2009
From: MHRJGScott at aol.com (MHRJGScott@aol.com)
Date: Sat Sep 19 14:40:27 2009
Subject: [NU Sports] Big Ten early games ...
Message-ID: <d56.37220e2d.37e68d9b@aol.com>

 
Kiffen has a big mouth, a too cute wife and no cred, Gators have back to  
back national championships, chomp chomp

From hakirsch at aol.com  Sat Sep 19 14:57:27 2009
From: hakirsch at aol.com (hakirsch@aol.com)
Date: Sat Sep 19 14:57:47 2009
Subject: [NU Sports] Minnesota Injury Alert
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Paul

NU's win over minny last year also came with decker hurt part of the game. With it so close it could have cost the Gophers

Assume you are rooting for the Cats today even though your daughter went to 'Cuse

Harry
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Watching last few minutes of Cal's win over Gophers.? Before giving the news, Cal looks very good.? Decent effort by Minny, but they finally lost to a bettter team.? Jahvid Best is a stud back.

But here's the key for 'Cat fans:? Eric Decker, Gophers' outstanding wide receiver, hurt his ankle when tackled on sideline with a little over 2 minutes to play.? He was shown getting ankle iced on Minny bench.? We'll see whether he is back for next week's home BT against the Gophers.? If he is out, Minny attack will be extremely hampered.


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From neonrye at aol.com  Sat Sep 19 14:58:51 2009
From: neonrye at aol.com (neonrye@aol.com)
Date: Sat Sep 19 14:58:55 2009
Subject: [NU Sports] Minnesota Injury Alert
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Of course.  Cats all the way.
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Paul

NU's win over minny last year also came with decker hurt part of the game. With it so close it could have cost the Gophers

Assume you are rooting for the Cats today even though your daughter went to 'Cuse

Harry
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Watching last few minutes of Cal's win over Gophers.? Before giving the news, Cal looks very good.? Decent effort by Minny, but they finally lost to a bettter team.? Jahvid Best is a stud back.

But here's the key for 'Cat fans:? Eric Decker, Gophers' outstanding wide receiver, hurt his ankle when tackled on sideline with a little over 2 minutes to play.? He was shown getting ankle iced on Minny bench.? We'll see whether he is back for next week's home BT against the Gophers.? If he is out, Minny attack will be extremely hampered.


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From MHRJGScott at aol.com  Sat Sep 19 15:12:03 2009
From: MHRJGScott at aol.com (MHRJGScott@aol.com)
Date: Sat Sep 19 15:12:15 2009
Subject: [NU Sports] Big Ten early games ...
Message-ID: <d0c.5d66e485.37e69513@aol.com>

Will be watching, I hope, or listening to the CATS! from Ullapool in the  
highlands after sailing in from Lewis Island, I am near John a' Groats, not 
to  be confused with John DeGroet.  Listened to the Shinty world championship 
 final from Oban on BBC Scotland on the way in after the Rangers game. was 
over.  These Scots are sports mad.
From sjtruog at yahoo.com  Sat Sep 19 17:03:33 2009
From: sjtruog at yahoo.com (SjT (Stephen J. Truog))
Date: Sat Sep 19 17:03:39 2009
Subject: [NU Sports] Big Ten early games ...
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> Steven
> 
> Its called hype.? Absolutely agree with you that
> kiffen's comments were hardly anything.? The bulletin

I know - that's what I meant ... this was ALL they could do to try and make this week exciting? Seemed like a letdown after last week's SC-OSU and ND-Michigan natural hype.:) And also, this is all it takes for Urban Meyer to act like a jerk? If he's so thin-skinned and offended, it may be a good thing he didn't go to South Bend.

Also a sorry statement about this "rivalry" -- Spurrier said 99 things more outrageous than that in his sleep!

On the plus side, I did notice that the Big Ten Network has removed the painful glow from the corporate-sponsored "red zone" now down to merely an outline of a "red square." So someone's reading/listening!

GO CATS!!!
-SjT


      

From sjtruog at yahoo.com  Sat Sep 19 18:11:54 2009
From: sjtruog at yahoo.com (SjT (Stephen J. Truog))
Date: Sat Sep 19 18:12:00 2009
Subject: [NU Sports] Big Ten afternoon games ...
Message-ID: <153577.38227.qm@web52906.mail.re2.yahoo.com>

Well, things certainly picked up a bit!

What a finish in Seattle ... I though UDub might keep it close with SC, but never thought they'd pull out the win! It was exactly the clutch QB playmaking ability that Ohio State COULD have had last week to go along with solid D against SC's one-dimensional offense. Congrats Huskies! Plus, it's just nice to see a swarm of purple rush the field with those cocky Trojan players, fans and band stunned while they watch.:)

As for the league games ...

* IOWA was impressive, darn impressive, in trouncing Arizona. They stuck with what they do best, didn't worry about the speed or get down after the INT. It should be a heck of a game with the Hawkeyes heading into Beaver Stadium for the White Out next week.

* INDIANA is also looking good heading into Big Ten play. But with Michigan and OSU to open the league slate, it could be a quick trip back to reality.

* MICHIGAN STATE just doesn't have the offensive firepower Michigan does - they needed to have more of a defensive game against the Irish. Once it turned into a scorefest, they were in trouble. Nice comeback after getting burned early, but still a predictable outcome and a "typical Sparty" moment at the end -- missing the wide open TD and following it up with the INT. 

I thought MSU was over their history of mental block season-killers, but after close heartbreak games with CMU and ND, they could be ready to spiral into a funk.

One more game left - we need our best effort to win in the Dome.

GO CATS!!!
-SjT

* * * * * * * * *
STEPHEN J. TRUOG
sjtruog@yahoo.com
GO CATS!!!


      

From Alan.Abrahamson at nbcsports.com  Sat Sep 19 18:12:47 2009
From: Alan.Abrahamson at nbcsports.com (Abrahamson, Alan (NBC Universal))
Date: Sat Sep 19 18:13:00 2009
Subject: [NU Sports] What a godawful picture
Message-ID: <33C4F11DF8639640A51C79CB484166FF08A7BDD6@RKFMLVEM02.e2k.ad.ge.com>

Channel 791, DirecTV. 

At least it's on. 

But no HD!

From sjtruog at yahoo.com  Sat Sep 19 21:43:21 2009
From: sjtruog at yahoo.com (SjT (Stephen J. Truog))
Date: Sat Sep 19 21:43:41 2009
Subject: [NU Sports] Blast!
Message-ID: <182804.98678.qm@web52902.mail.re2.yahoo.com>

Seems like our dreaded September curse has reappeared.

Yahoo's game updater was particularly cruel - having NU up 35-27 and then 35-34 until revising it to 34-34 for the missed PAT. Looked like we battled back from a horrible start but couldn't seal the game off at the end and collapsed with a late INT ... very Sparty-esque.:(

It also seemed from the stats that our secondary got torched with all the injuries.

Hopefully this refocuses the team - but much like SC's game today, we knew it was a trap game and we stepped right in it. UGH!

GO CATS!!!
-SjT

* * * * * * * * *
STEPHEN J. TRUOG
sjtruog@yahoo.com
GO CATS!!!


      

From tbng at comcast.net  Sat Sep 19 22:07:32 2009
From: tbng at comcast.net (Dennis W. Brandt)
Date: Sat Sep 19 22:07:41 2009
Subject: [NU Sports] The good, the bad, the ugly
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The good?  Kafka's passing - until the last one.

The bad?  Our defense and running game

The ugly?  This game and my disposition.

Sigh

From jonathanwhodges at gmail.com  Sat Sep 19 22:16:31 2009
From: jonathanwhodges at gmail.com (Jonathan Hodges)
Date: Sat Sep 19 22:17:00 2009
Subject: [NU Sports] The good, the bad, the ugly
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Although right after the game I have basically felt like I did following
Duke in '07 and Indiana in '08, Syracuse is a much more fundamentally sound
team under Marrone than those 4 years under Robinson and they'll win a few
more games this season.  Although there were some things to be glad about
and more things to be worried about, hopefully NU can learn from this game
going into Big Ten play next week.

Go 'Cats!!!
Jonathan

On Sat, Sep 19, 2009 at 10:07 PM, Dennis W. Brandt <tbng@comcast.net> wrote:

> The good?  Kafka's passing - until the last one.
>
> The bad?  Our defense and running game
>
> The ugly?  This game and my disposition.
>
> Sigh
>
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From thehaze at earthlink.net  Sat Sep 19 23:34:45 2009
From: thehaze at earthlink.net (Jim Bendat)
Date: Sat Sep 19 23:35:11 2009
Subject: [NU Sports] Despite the loss, why I'm happy tonight
Message-ID: <22826098.1253421285303.JavaMail.root@wamui-hunyo.atl.sa.earthlink.net>

Sure, I hope NU wins every game. But, every football season, I have one main goal: that SC NOT win the the national championship. That team, and particularly its fans, have this sense of entitlement that forever makes me want to puke. The Trojans' loss today should hopefully eliminate them from any national title hopes. And, with Ohio State also having lost a game already this season, it's hard to ask for more. Now, let's hope the Cats turn it around as conference play begins next week. - Jim B.

From cyril at alumni.northwestern.edu  Sun Sep 20 11:09:28 2009
From: cyril at alumni.northwestern.edu (Cyril S. Ku)
Date: Sun Sep 20 11:09:39 2009
Subject: [NU Sports] Blast!
Message-ID: <626043.48029.qm@web53301.mail.re2.yahoo.com>

Just woke up - drove back to New Jersey at 3:00 AM. Here is my brief report:

(1) Nice drive from Central Jersey to Syracuse. The fall foliage however, is not showing yet. Saw plenty of purple flowers on the way - thought it was good omen.
(2) The Syracuse fans were generally nice before and especially after the game because we lost.
(3) The dome was not hot inside and actually comfortable.
(4) NU came out flat, down 0-17 in the first quarter, ouch. Where's our defense? I thought defense is supposed to be the strength of this year's team.
(5) I am not an expert, but I think Kafka played very well. I don't blamed the last interception that lost the game. I blamed the early deficit of 0-17. The miss PAT was hugh as it changed the complexity of the game. I noticed many starters were not in the game (injuries?).
(6) You should be all proud of our student-athletes. They never gave up and fought back.
(7) It was an exciting game. The NU alumni section was loud, many pieces of fight song were sung.
(8) Althought we lost, I got the feeling that we have a good team. I am sure Coach Fritz will put it all together next week.

GO CATS!
Cyril Ku

--- On Sat, 9/19/09, SjT (Stephen J. Truog) <sjtruog@yahoo.com> wrote:

> From: SjT (Stephen J. Truog) <sjtruog@yahoo.com>
> Subject: [NU Sports] Blast!
> To: nwu-sports@tssi.com
> Date: Saturday, September 19, 2009, 10:43 PM
> Seems like our dreaded September
> curse has reappeared.
> 
> Yahoo's game updater was particularly cruel - having NU up
> 35-27 and then 35-34 until revising it to 34-34 for the
> missed PAT. Looked like we battled back from a horrible
> start but couldn't seal the game off at the end and
> collapsed with a late INT ... very Sparty-esque.:(
> 
> It also seemed from the stats that our secondary got
> torched with all the injuries.
> 
> Hopefully this refocuses the team - but much like SC's game
> today, we knew it was a trap game and we stepped right in
> it. UGH!
> 
> GO CATS!!!
> -SjT
> 
> * * * * * * * * *
> STEPHEN J. TRUOG
> sjtruog@yahoo.com
> GO CATS!!!
> 
> 
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> 
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From cyril at alumni.northwestern.edu  Sun Sep 20 11:21:00 2009
From: cyril at alumni.northwestern.edu (Cyril S. Ku)
Date: Sun Sep 20 11:21:06 2009
Subject: [NU Sports] Blast!
In-Reply-To: <626043.48029.qm@web53301.mail.re2.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <150074.16610.qm@web53306.mail.re2.yahoo.com>

I meant the "miss PAT was huge" not "hugh". I need to sleep more...

--- On Sun, 9/20/09, Cyril S. Ku <cyril@alumni.northwestern.edu> wrote:

> From: Cyril S. Ku <cyril@alumni.northwestern.edu>
> Subject: Re: [NU Sports] Blast!
> To: nwu-sports@tssi.com, "SjT (Stephen J. Truog)" <sjtruog@yahoo.com>
> Date: Sunday, September 20, 2009, 12:09 PM
> Just woke up - drove back to New
> Jersey at 3:00 AM. Here is my brief report:
> 
> (1) Nice drive from Central Jersey to Syracuse. The fall
> foliage however, is not showing yet. Saw plenty of purple
> flowers on the way - thought it was good omen.
> (2) The Syracuse fans were generally nice before and
> especially after the game because we lost.
> (3) The dome was not hot inside and actually comfortable.
> (4) NU came out flat, down 0-17 in the first quarter, ouch.
> Where's our defense? I thought defense is supposed to be the
> strength of this year's team.
> (5) I am not an expert, but I think Kafka played very well.
> I don't blamed the last interception that lost the game. I
> blamed the early deficit of 0-17. The miss PAT was hugh as
> it changed the complexity of the game. I noticed many
> starters were not in the game (injuries?).
> (6) You should be all proud of our student-athletes. They
> never gave up and fought back.
> (7) It was an exciting game. The NU alumni section was
> loud, many pieces of fight song were sung.
> (8) Althought we lost, I got the feeling that we have a
> good team. I am sure Coach Fritz will put it all together
> next week.
> 
> GO CATS!
> Cyril Ku
> 
> --- On Sat, 9/19/09, SjT (Stephen J. Truog) <sjtruog@yahoo.com>
> wrote:
> 
> > From: SjT (Stephen J. Truog) <sjtruog@yahoo.com>
> > Subject: [NU Sports] Blast!
> > To: nwu-sports@tssi.com
> > Date: Saturday, September 19, 2009, 10:43 PM
> > Seems like our dreaded September
> > curse has reappeared.
> > 
> > Yahoo's game updater was particularly cruel - having
> NU up
> > 35-27 and then 35-34 until revising it to 34-34 for
> the
> > missed PAT. Looked like we battled back from a
> horrible
> > start but couldn't seal the game off at the end and
> > collapsed with a late INT ... very Sparty-esque.:(
> > 
> > It also seemed from the stats that our secondary got
> > torched with all the injuries.
> > 
> > Hopefully this refocuses the team - but much like SC's
> game
> > today, we knew it was a trap game and we stepped right
> in
> > it. UGH!
> > 
> > GO CATS!!!
> > -SjT
> > 
> > * * * * * * * * *
> > STEPHEN J. TRUOG
> > sjtruog@yahoo.com
> > GO CATS!!!
> > 
> > 
> > ? ? ? 
> > 
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> 
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From hakirsch at aol.com  Sun Sep 20 11:23:03 2009
From: hakirsch at aol.com (hakirsch@aol.com)
Date: Sun Sep 20 11:23:11 2009
Subject: [NU Sports] Blast!
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Thanks for the re cap. And I guessed as much about the missed PAT which initially I wasn't sure about on yahoo since they had messed up the score earlier

Harry
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-----Original Message-----
From: "Cyril S. Ku" <cyril@alumni.northwestern.edu>

Date: Sun, 20 Sep 2009 09:21:00 
To: <nwu-sports@tssi.com>; SjT \(Stephen J. Truog\)<sjtruog@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: [NU Sports] Blast!


I meant the "miss PAT was huge" not "hugh". I need to sleep more...

--- On Sun, 9/20/09, Cyril S. Ku <cyril@alumni.northwestern.edu> wrote:

> From: Cyril S. Ku <cyril@alumni.northwestern.edu>
> Subject: Re: [NU Sports] Blast!
> To: nwu-sports@tssi.com, "SjT (Stephen J. Truog)" <sjtruog@yahoo.com>
> Date: Sunday, September 20, 2009, 12:09 PM
> Just woke up - drove back to New
> Jersey at 3:00 AM. Here is my brief report:
> 
> (1) Nice drive from Central Jersey to Syracuse. The fall
> foliage however, is not showing yet. Saw plenty of purple
> flowers on the way - thought it was good omen.
> (2) The Syracuse fans were generally nice before and
> especially after the game because we lost.
> (3) The dome was not hot inside and actually comfortable.
> (4) NU came out flat, down 0-17 in the first quarter, ouch.
> Where's our defense? I thought defense is supposed to be the
> strength of this year's team.
> (5) I am not an expert, but I think Kafka played very well.
> I don't blamed the last interception that lost the game. I
> blamed the early deficit of 0-17. The miss PAT was hugh as
> it changed the complexity of the game. I noticed many
> starters were not in the game (injuries?).
> (6) You should be all proud of our student-athletes. They
> never gave up and fought back.
> (7) It was an exciting game. The NU alumni section was
> loud, many pieces of fight song were sung.
> (8) Althought we lost, I got the feeling that we have a
> good team. I am sure Coach Fritz will put it all together
> next week.
> 
> GO CATS!
> Cyril Ku
> 
> --- On Sat, 9/19/09, SjT (Stephen J. Truog) <sjtruog@yahoo.com>
> wrote:
> 
> > From: SjT (Stephen J. Truog) <sjtruog@yahoo.com>
> > Subject: [NU Sports] Blast!
> > To: nwu-sports@tssi.com
> > Date: Saturday, September 19, 2009, 10:43 PM
> > Seems like our dreaded September
> > curse has reappeared.
> > 
> > Yahoo's game updater was particularly cruel - having
> NU up
> > 35-27 and then 35-34 until revising it to 34-34 for
> the
> > missed PAT. Looked like we battled back from a
> horrible
> > start but couldn't seal the game off at the end and
> > collapsed with a late INT ... very Sparty-esque.:(
> > 
> > It also seemed from the stats that our secondary got
> > torched with all the injuries.
> > 
> > Hopefully this refocuses the team - but much like SC's
> game
> > today, we knew it was a trap game and we stepped right
> in
> > it. UGH!
> > 
> > GO CATS!!!
> > -SjT
> > 
> > * * * * * * * * *
> > STEPHEN J. TRUOG
> > sjtruog@yahoo.com
> > GO CATS!!!
> > 
> > 
> > ? ? ? 
> > 
> >_______________________________________________
> > nwu-sports site list
> > nwu-sports@tssi.com
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> > 
> >
> 
> 
> 
> ? ? ? 
> 
> 
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From thiegs at umn.edu  Sun Sep 20 13:04:29 2009
From: thiegs at umn.edu (Joe Thiegs)
Date: Sun Sep 20 13:04:37 2009
Subject: [NU Sports] Despite the loss, why I'm happy tonight
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Yeah, both my teams lost yesterday in games they were in position to win late in the fourth quarter, losing because of pivotal, frustrating plays.  Still, I'm not devastated and even optimistic looking forward.

With the NU game, I was listening to WGN's web audio feed and following the stats on ESPN GameCast after the kids went to bed.  From the post-game interview, I took away that Fitz will use this as a teaching moment.  Remember, the Rose Bowl team blew a (big) fourth-quarter lead and lost to Miami yet rebounded to run the table in the Big Ten.  I don't think we have that kind of team this year, but we can still have a successful season.

I was at the Minnesota-Cal game, and the Gophers showed a lot of poise and toughness in clawing back from 14-0 and 21-7 holes to have the game tied 21-all late into the fourth quarter, even sacking Cal on third and long in Gopher territory, which was nullified by a Cal false start (play never happened).  Cal converted on the second-chance 3rd-and-even-longer on the way to their game-winning TD.  A late pick by Weber (much like Kafka's) stopped what could have been the tying drive for Minnesota and led to the final Cal TD.  (An aside:  Jahvid Best is an absolutely unreal football player.  Lots of fun and a privilege to watch--too bad we were on the other side.)  The point is, though, that the Gophers showed they could hang with and be in a position to win against one of the very best teams in the nation until the very end.  The game was a lot closer than it looked from the box score.

Next week should be very interesting.  The Gophers have shown no rushing game, and the 'Cats haven't shown much of one either.  In the Gophers' case, it seems to be largely because of (a) the absence of a back that can take the game on his shoulders, and (b) an o-line that's big and strong but too often doesn't seem to be able to block very effectively.  Both teams have a strong passing attack, with Kafka spreading it out quite a bit, while Weber-to-Decker is very hard to stop (even when opponents know it's coming and Weber is blitzed or Decker is double or triple covered).  I don't know if there is a more impressive player in the Big Ten than Eric Decker--I can't think of one, at least.  Brandon Green (No. 1) seems to be stepping up a little bit as a decent second threat.  Stoudemire is lightning fast when he gets the ball but has had trouble with drops.  The nice surprise for Minnesota has been the defense.  The front seven has been pretty impressive for the most part, and they've finally got some athletes in the secondary.  Linebacker Nate Triplett won National Defensive Player of the Week honors for his work against Air Force (17 tackles, PBU, and fumble return for game-winning TD).

The teams should be pretty evenly matched.  Using the common road trip to Syracuse as a measuring stick, Minnesota might have a slight edge:  The Gophers beat the Orange in overtime, while the 'Cats lost to the Orange on the last-second field goal.  Of course, it could go either way.

-Joe



-----Original Message-----
From: nwu-sports-bounces@tssi.com [mailto:nwu-sports-bounces@tssi.com] On Behalf Of Jim Bendat
Sent: Saturday, September 19, 2009 11:35 PM
To: nwu-sports@tssi.com
Subject: [NU Sports] Despite the loss, why I'm happy tonight

Sure, I hope NU wins every game. But, every football season, I have one main goal: that SC NOT win the the national championship. That team, and particularly its fans, have this sense of entitlement that forever makes me want to puke. The Trojans' loss today should hopefully eliminate them from any national title hopes. And, with Ohio State also having lost a game already this season, it's hard to ask for more. Now, let's hope the Cats turn it around as conference play begins next week. - Jim B.

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From tbng at comcast.net  Sun Sep 20 13:05:38 2009
From: tbng at comcast.net (Dennis W. Brandt)
Date: Sun Sep 20 13:05:47 2009
Subject: [NU Sports] Preparation S
Message-ID: <0E1FFDAC68414F3087AA12D77A5A4BCC@DennisMachine>

Did anyone else notice that Syracuse was well prepared for our speed-up game?  Each time we went into fast mode, they countered with a good defensive play.  And what was Fitz doing trying to throw a pass at the end of the 2nd quarter?  It nearly caused disaster.  We played badly on defense.  It's time to be worried, but not about Kafka's passing.  He shined.
From nolan at romaine.tssi.com  Sun Sep 20 13:28:36 2009
From: nolan at romaine.tssi.com (Mike Nolan)
Date: Sun Sep 20 13:28:40 2009
Subject: [NU Sports] Despite the loss, why I'm happy tonight (fwd)
Message-ID: <200909201828.n8KISa7K018509@romaine.tssi.com>

> Yeah, both my teams lost yesterday in games they were in position to win late in the fourth quarter, losing because of pivotal, frustrating plays.  Still, I'm not devastated and even optimistic looking forward.

Same here, both NU and Nebraska lost in the last minute with several failed
opportunities to put the game away, and I'm still frustrated over the 
Bears-Packers game from last Sunday.  (That snap to the up-back in punt 
formation doomed them.)

But I have to admit that when the Cats were down 17-0, I was worried they'd
never close the gap, much less be leading and in a position to win late in 
the game.  The Cardiac Cats have won more than their share of close games,
I suppose the laws of probability say we have to lose some of them too.

The Minnesota will be an interesting test and one that will show which
team wants be a factor in the Big 10 this year and which will just be 
hoping to limp to a pre-Christmas bowl game.

I'm still waiting for Fitz to have what I would call a 'signature' win,
but I'm not sure Randy Walker ever had one either.  (Fitz's teams remind
me a lot of RW's teams, a smattering of really talented players with
a few strong areas and a few weak ones, but never reaching the level of 
greatness or overachievement that we saw under GB.)  
--
Mike Nolan

From MHRJGScott at aol.com  Sun Sep 20 14:00:41 2009
From: MHRJGScott at aol.com (MHRJGScott@aol.com)
Date: Sun Sep 20 14:00:59 2009
Subject: [NU Sports] Despite the loss, why I'm happy tonight
Message-ID: <c58.511e16a5.37e7d5d9@aol.com>

Well at least Celtic beats Hearts today in Glasgow, I have always wanted to 
 go to a Celtic game preferably an old firm with Rangers but this was a 
real  football game. my feed of the CATS! game on justin tv was awful so I gave 
up  around 3am.
From tmcadams at yahoo.com  Sun Sep 20 14:05:04 2009
From: tmcadams at yahoo.com (Trey McAdams)
Date: Sun Sep 20 14:05:12 2009
Subject: [NU Sports] Despite the loss, why I'm happy tonight (fwd)
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I would put in a strong vote for 54-51 as a signature win.




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Sent: Sunday, September 20, 2009 1:28:36 PM
Subject: RE: [NU Sports] Despite the loss, why I'm happy tonight (fwd)

> Yeah, both my teams lost yesterday in games they were in position to win late in the fourth quarter, losing because of pivotal, frustrating plays.  Still, I'm not devastated and even optimistic looking forward.

Same here, both NU and Nebraska lost in the last minute with several failed
opportunities to put the game away, and I'm still frustrated over the 
Bears-Packers game from last Sunday.  (That snap to the up-back in punt 
formation doomed them.)

But I have to admit that when the Cats were down 17-0, I was worried they'd
never close the gap, much less be leading and in a position to win late in 
the game.  The Cardiac Cats have won more than their share of close games,
I suppose the laws of probability say we have to lose some of them too.

The Minnesota will be an interesting test and one that will show which
team wants be a factor in the Big 10 this year and which will just be 
hoping to limp to a pre-Christmas bowl game.

I'm still waiting for Fitz to have what I would call a 'signature' win,
but I'm not sure Randy Walker ever had one either.  (Fitz's teams remind
me a lot of RW's teams, a smattering of really talented players with
a few strong areas and a few weak ones, but never reaching the level of 
greatness or overachievement that we saw under GB.)  
--
Mike Nolan

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From hakirsch at aol.com  Sun Sep 20 14:10:38 2009
From: hakirsch at aol.com (hakirsch@aol.com)
Date: Sun Sep 20 14:10:43 2009
Subject: [NU Sports] Despite the loss, why I'm happy tonight (fwd)
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Agree

Harry
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From: Trey McAdams <tmcadams@yahoo.com>

Date: Sun, 20 Sep 2009 12:05:04 
To: Mike Nolan<nolan@romaine.tssi.com>; <nwu-sports@romaine.tssi.com>
Subject: Re: [NU Sports] Despite the loss, why I'm happy tonight (fwd)


I would put in a strong vote for 54-51 as a signature win.




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From: Mike Nolan <nolan@romaine.tssi.com>
To: nwu-sports@romaine.tssi.com
Sent: Sunday, September 20, 2009 1:28:36 PM
Subject: RE: [NU Sports] Despite the loss, why I'm happy tonight (fwd)

> Yeah, both my teams lost yesterday in games they were in position to win late in the fourth quarter, losing because of pivotal, frustrating plays.  Still, I'm not devastated and even optimistic looking forward.

Same here, both NU and Nebraska lost in the last minute with several failed
opportunities to put the game away, and I'm still frustrated over the 
Bears-Packers game from last Sunday.  (That snap to the up-back in punt 
formation doomed them.)

But I have to admit that when the Cats were down 17-0, I was worried they'd
never close the gap, much less be leading and in a position to win late in 
the game.  The Cardiac Cats have won more than their share of close games,
I suppose the laws of probability say we have to lose some of them too.

The Minnesota will be an interesting test and one that will show which
team wants be a factor in the Big 10 this year and which will just be 
hoping to limp to a pre-Christmas bowl game.

I'm still waiting for Fitz to have what I would call a 'signature' win,
but I'm not sure Randy Walker ever had one either.  (Fitz's teams remind
me a lot of RW's teams, a smattering of really talented players with
a few strong areas and a few weak ones, but never reaching the level of 
greatness or overachievement that we saw under GB.)  
--
Mike Nolan

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From nolan at romaine.tssi.com  Sun Sep 20 14:48:00 2009
From: nolan at romaine.tssi.com (Mike Nolan)
Date: Sun Sep 20 14:48:05 2009
Subject: [NU Sports] Preparation S
In-Reply-To: <0E1FFDAC68414F3087AA12D77A5A4BCC@DennisMachine> from "Dennis W.
	Brandt" at Sep 20, 2009 02:05:38 PM
Message-ID: <200909201948.n8KJm0m6019019@romaine.tssi.com>

> Did anyone else notice that Syracuse was well prepared for our speed-up 
> game?  Each time we went into fast mode, they countered with a good 
> defensive play.  And what was Fitz doing trying to throw a pass at the 
> end of the 2nd quarter?  It nearly caused disaster.  We played badly 
> on defense.  It's time to be worried, but not about Kafka's passing.  He 
> shined.

So many teams run variations of the spread and hurry-up offenses that most
defenses are reasonably prepared for both these days, because they will 
face them week after week.

The trick is to either be so doggoned good at it that they just can't
stop it or have some new wrinkles, which I don't know that NU has yet.

The biggest positive to take out of yesterday's game is that the Cats
can come back from 3 score deficits (though it would be better not to
ever have to.)  The biggest negative is that they still haven't learned 
how to slam the door shut at the end.   We've seen that time and again
in for quite a few seasons, both under RW and under Fitz.  And what that
means is that the other team knows they still have a shot as long as
they're close, and sometimes even if they're not (aka the Michigan State
fiasco.)
--
Mike Nolan

From jonathanwhodges at gmail.com  Sun Sep 20 15:02:37 2009
From: jonathanwhodges at gmail.com (Jonathan Hodges)
Date: Sun Sep 20 15:03:20 2009
Subject: [NU Sports] Preparation S
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I would argue that Syracuse was not prepared for the hurry-up offense - NU's
offense performed its best when it got in a good rhythm and got away quick
passes.  Most of Kafka's errors came when he held onto the ball too long or
when the NU offense took too long of a break.  More than once the 'Cats got
nice gains when the Syracuse defense wasn't completely set.  In any case, it
was nice to see NU finally open up the playbook and see some good things
from them.  The defense, well, that's another story.  Hopefully NU can get
some health at the CB position - they'll need McManis to go up against
Decker next week.

Jonathan

On Sun, Sep 20, 2009 at 2:48 PM, Mike Nolan <nolan@romaine.tssi.com> wrote:

> > Did anyone else notice that Syracuse was well prepared for our speed-up
> > game?  Each time we went into fast mode, they countered with a good
> > defensive play.  And what was Fitz doing trying to throw a pass at the
> > end of the 2nd quarter?  It nearly caused disaster.  We played badly
> > on defense.  It's time to be worried, but not about Kafka's passing.  He
> > shined.
>
> So many teams run variations of the spread and hurry-up offenses that most
> defenses are reasonably prepared for both these days, because they will
> face them week after week.
>
> The trick is to either be so doggoned good at it that they just can't
> stop it or have some new wrinkles, which I don't know that NU has yet.
>
> The biggest positive to take out of yesterday's game is that the Cats
> can come back from 3 score deficits (though it would be better not to
> ever have to.)  The biggest negative is that they still haven't learned
> how to slam the door shut at the end.   We've seen that time and again
> in for quite a few seasons, both under RW and under Fitz.  And what that
> means is that the other team knows they still have a shot as long as
> they're close, and sometimes even if they're not (aka the Michigan State
> fiasco.)
> --
> Mike Nolan
>
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From jonathanwhodges at gmail.com  Sun Sep 20 15:06:25 2009
From: jonathanwhodges at gmail.com (Jonathan Hodges)
Date: Sun Sep 20 15:06:55 2009
Subject: [NU Sports] Despite the loss, why I'm happy tonight (fwd)
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I would argue that Walker had quite a few signature wins: Wisconsin and
Michigan in 2000 (Wisconsin was in the top 5 at the time), and even Ohio
State in 2004 (they, too, were in the top 5, although they would go on to
have a "down" year).  Meanwhile, Fitz's best win is likely the Minnesota
game last year.  He'll need to beat an "elite" team at some point, but I'm
confident it will come eventually.  Like Fitz said in some postgame comments
reported in the Trib - health was obviously an issue and he noted that the
team fought back and put themselves in a position to win despite falling in
a 17-0 hole early.

Jonathan

On Sun, Sep 20, 2009 at 1:28 PM, Mike Nolan <nolan@romaine.tssi.com> wrote:

> > Yeah, both my teams lost yesterday in games they were in position to win
> late in the fourth quarter, losing because of pivotal, frustrating plays.
>  Still, I'm not devastated and even optimistic looking forward.
>
> Same here, both NU and Nebraska lost in the last minute with several failed
> opportunities to put the game away, and I'm still frustrated over the
> Bears-Packers game from last Sunday.  (That snap to the up-back in punt
> formation doomed them.)
>
> But I have to admit that when the Cats were down 17-0, I was worried they'd
> never close the gap, much less be leading and in a position to win late in
> the game.  The Cardiac Cats have won more than their share of close games,
> I suppose the laws of probability say we have to lose some of them too.
>
> The Minnesota will be an interesting test and one that will show which
> team wants be a factor in the Big 10 this year and which will just be
> hoping to limp to a pre-Christmas bowl game.
>
> I'm still waiting for Fitz to have what I would call a 'signature' win,
> but I'm not sure Randy Walker ever had one either.  (Fitz's teams remind
> me a lot of RW's teams, a smattering of really talented players with
> a few strong areas and a few weak ones, but never reaching the level of
> greatness or overachievement that we saw under GB.)
> --
> Mike Nolan
>
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>
From sjtruog at yahoo.com  Sun Sep 20 17:03:35 2009
From: sjtruog at yahoo.com (SjT (Stephen J. Truog))
Date: Sun Sep 20 17:03:40 2009
Subject: [NU Sports] Despite the loss, why I'm happy tonight (fwd)
In-Reply-To: <fcb3ee270909201306o2bc007f4g2cb87419f1039313@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <105577.56735.qm@web52901.mail.re2.yahoo.com>

> I would argue that Walker had quite a
> few signature wins: Wisconsin and
> Michigan in 2000 (Wisconsin was in the top 5 at the time),
> and even Ohio
> State in 2004 (they, too, were in the top 5, although they

Definitely -- all three of those were signature wins. Wisky didn't get as much attention, but they were top ten and unbeaten. Michigan was a nationwide game that made big-time highlights and OSU was an evening game against an unbeaten and top five team

I do agree, though, in that Fitz and Walker teams are similar in the majority of their big-time showcase games (see MSU last year) and not ready to make that step up in general.

However, Syracuse wasn't a big-time game and we blew it ... as Barnett did with Miami and Wake and as Walker did.

We're just never going to be that football factory school that can come out against a MAC-like foe, put on the jersey and have a 28-point win. We can compete with anyone, and we can lose to anyone. Last night, it didn't seem like we came out ready and dug a huge early hole. Granted, we dug out of it, but that takes a lot of the energy and we seemed to be lacking that late.

Looking at our Big Ten slate, we're capable of beating any team on there (we skip OSU, our mental block game where they win by putting on their unis, and Michigan who seems to be playing with the most energy now) -- even PSU because they have momentary lapses of focus as well. However, we can lose to any team as well - especially given how Indiana and Purdue have shown they can play at times.

I understand the defensive injuries, but the overall defensive game just disappointed me. We need them to set the tone early. We need to avoid those 17-0 holes. But if anyone knows that league play is a whole new slate, it should be NU after the last decade or so. Go get them Gophers!

GO CATS!!!
-SjT


      

From Jeff.Beamsley at covisint.com  Mon Sep 21 08:32:32 2009
From: Jeff.Beamsley at covisint.com (Beamsley, Jeff)
Date: Mon Sep 21 08:32:45 2009
Subject: [NU Sports] Despite the loss, why I'm happy tonight (fwd)
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We seem to regularly find our team in this position after the non-con
sched.

As others have said, if you live by the sword of late game heroics, you
sometimes die by the same sword.

Didn't see the game and only heard the last quarter on WGN driving back
to Michigan from Indiana.

Sounded like our d was gassed.  Also sounded like we avoided a worse
fate only because Paulus missed a lot of open receivers.  

I defer to those who listened to the whole game, but the fact that we
only ran the ball for 52 yards says something about the Syracuse game
plan.  For those who saw the game, was there something about their
scheme that revealed a weakness in our run game?

But when you wash everything out, this was a story of turnovers. They
scored on two of the three turnovers we gave them.  We scored on one of
the turnovers they gave us.

I think it was a great demonstration of character to come back after
being down three scores.

The disturbing fact from the non-con season, is that the team hasn't yet
demonstrated that they know to put a team away early when they have a
big lead, or seal the deal when they get the lead late.  Evidence of the
former was the way that Michigan shut Eastern out in the second half of
their game even though Eastern had the ball twice as long as Michigan.

Jeff

  


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From: nwu-sports-bounces@tssi.com [mailto:nwu-sports-bounces@tssi.com]
On Behalf Of SjT (Stephen J. Truog)
Sent: Sunday, September 20, 2009 6:04 PM
To: nwu-sports@romaine.tssi.com
Subject: Re: [NU Sports] Despite the loss, why I'm happy tonight (fwd)

> I would argue that Walker had quite a
> few signature wins: Wisconsin and
> Michigan in 2000 (Wisconsin was in the top 5 at the time), and even 
> Ohio State in 2004 (they, too, were in the top 5, although they

Definitely -- all three of those were signature wins. Wisky didn't get
as much attention, but they were top ten and unbeaten. Michigan was a
nationwide game that made big-time highlights and OSU was an evening
game against an unbeaten and top five team

I do agree, though, in that Fitz and Walker teams are similar in the
majority of their big-time showcase games (see MSU last year) and not
ready to make that step up in general.

However, Syracuse wasn't a big-time game and we blew it ... as Barnett
did with Miami and Wake and as Walker did.

We're just never going to be that football factory school that can come
out against a MAC-like foe, put on the jersey and have a 28-point win.
We can compete with anyone, and we can lose to anyone. Last night, it
didn't seem like we came out ready and dug a huge early hole. Granted,
we dug out of it, but that takes a lot of the energy and we seemed to be
lacking that late.

Looking at our Big Ten slate, we're capable of beating any team on there
(we skip OSU, our mental block game where they win by putting on their
unis, and Michigan who seems to be playing with the most energy now) --
even PSU because they have momentary lapses of focus as well. However,
we can lose to any team as well - especially given how Indiana and
Purdue have shown they can play at times.

I understand the defensive injuries, but the overall defensive game just
disappointed me. We need them to set the tone early. We need to avoid
those 17-0 holes. But if anyone knows that league play is a whole new
slate, it should be NU after the last decade or so. Go get them Gophers!

GO CATS!!!
-SjT


      

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From jonathanwhodges at gmail.com  Mon Sep 21 08:51:02 2009
From: jonathanwhodges at gmail.com (Jonathan Hodges)
Date: Mon Sep 21 08:51:31 2009
Subject: [NU Sports] Despite the loss, why I'm happy tonight (fwd)
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Regarding the NU running game, the fact is that the 'Cats committed to the
passing game early and stuck with it.  Although NU did run it from time to
time to try and keep SU honest, NU came into the game knowing that Syracuse
wasn't good against the pass and the best chance was to throw the ball.

Syracuse's nose tackle Arthur Jones is a force in the middle of the field
and proved it by taking up a lot of blocks and still getting into the
backfield.

I would say it was more of a game plan by NU than Syracuse just shutting NU
down.  I believe having the starting RB Simmons out also affected NU's game
plan.  Think of last year at the Minnesota game where NU ran Kafka almost 30
times - with Bacher and Sutton out, NU changed its offensive game plan.  I'd
say the 'Cats did pretty well minus the one ill-advised Kafka throw at the
end and it sure wasn't the offense's fault that NU lost.

Jonathan

On Mon, Sep 21, 2009 at 8:32 AM, Beamsley, Jeff
<Jeff.Beamsley@covisint.com>wrote:

> We seem to regularly find our team in this position after the non-con
> sched.
>
> As others have said, if you live by the sword of late game heroics, you
> sometimes die by the same sword.
>
> Didn't see the game and only heard the last quarter on WGN driving back
> to Michigan from Indiana.
>
> Sounded like our d was gassed.  Also sounded like we avoided a worse
> fate only because Paulus missed a lot of open receivers.
>
> I defer to those who listened to the whole game, but the fact that we
> only ran the ball for 52 yards says something about the Syracuse game
> plan.  For those who saw the game, was there something about their
> scheme that revealed a weakness in our run game?
>
> But when you wash everything out, this was a story of turnovers. They
> scored on two of the three turnovers we gave them.  We scored on one of
> the turnovers they gave us.
>
> I think it was a great demonstration of character to come back after
> being down three scores.
>
> The disturbing fact from the non-con season, is that the team hasn't yet
> demonstrated that they know to put a team away early when they have a
> big lead, or seal the deal when they get the lead late.  Evidence of the
> former was the way that Michigan shut Eastern out in the second half of
> their game even though Eastern had the ball twice as long as Michigan.
>
> Jeff
>
>
>
>
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> From: nwu-sports-bounces@tssi.com [mailto:nwu-sports-bounces@tssi.com]
> On Behalf Of SjT (Stephen J. Truog)
> Sent: Sunday, September 20, 2009 6:04 PM
> To: nwu-sports@romaine.tssi.com
> Subject: Re: [NU Sports] Despite the loss, why I'm happy tonight (fwd)
>
> > I would argue that Walker had quite a
> > few signature wins: Wisconsin and
> > Michigan in 2000 (Wisconsin was in the top 5 at the time), and even
> > Ohio State in 2004 (they, too, were in the top 5, although they
>
> Definitely -- all three of those were signature wins. Wisky didn't get
> as much attention, but they were top ten and unbeaten. Michigan was a
> nationwide game that made big-time highlights and OSU was an evening
> game against an unbeaten and top five team
>
> I do agree, though, in that Fitz and Walker teams are similar in the
> majority of their big-time showcase games (see MSU last year) and not
> ready to make that step up in general.
>
> However, Syracuse wasn't a big-time game and we blew it ... as Barnett
> did with Miami and Wake and as Walker did.
>
> We're just never going to be that football factory school that can come
> out against a MAC-like foe, put on the jersey and have a 28-point win.
> We can compete with anyone, and we can lose to anyone. Last night, it
> didn't seem like we came out ready and dug a huge early hole. Granted,
> we dug out of it, but that takes a lot of the energy and we seemed to be
> lacking that late.
>
> Looking at our Big Ten slate, we're capable of beating any team on there
> (we skip OSU, our mental block game where they win by putting on their
> unis, and Michigan who seems to be playing with the most energy now) --
> even PSU because they have momentary lapses of focus as well. However,
> we can lose to any team as well - especially given how Indiana and
> Purdue have shown they can play at times.
>
> I understand the defensive injuries, but the overall defensive game just
> disappointed me. We need them to set the tone early. We need to avoid
> those 17-0 holes. But if anyone knows that league play is a whole new
> slate, it should be NU after the last decade or so. Go get them Gophers!
>
> GO CATS!!!
> -SjT
>
>
>
>
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From jleonard518 at yahoo.com  Tue Sep 22 11:49:12 2009
From: jleonard518 at yahoo.com (Jim Leonard)
Date: Tue Sep 22 11:49:22 2009
Subject: [NU Sports] Ok, It's a new week
Message-ID: <424827.46013.qm@web36805.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

Fellow Wildcat Faithful,

I am still stinging from the Syracuse loss. It's one thing to get blown out by a much better team, it's another to leave a win on the field. However, it's time to move on. 

I think we match up pretty well against the Gophers. They certainly looked beatable when they played Air Force. And if they are without Decker, I like our chances even more. Kafka has shown a lot of progress this season, and I really like what happened in Syracuse when we were willing to throw on first downs. 

I hate to be in this position, but following last week's loss this is a must-win game for our bowl hopes. 

Victory & Honor,
Jim


      

From sjtruog at yahoo.com  Wed Sep 23 01:10:21 2009
From: sjtruog at yahoo.com (SjT (Stephen J. Truog))
Date: Wed Sep 23 01:10:42 2009
Subject: [NU Sports] PIGSKIN PICKS - Week 4
Message-ID: <135828.60375.qm@web52904.mail.re2.yahoo.com>

I tell ya, we?ve been blessed with some terrific football these past few weeks. All of the prime time and national games seem to come down to the wire and even last week?s slate of college games with few big matchups on paper produced some notable upsets. Too bad we didn?t pick that Washington-SC game!

So maybe it?s time we all start paying attention to football instead of the sanctimonious whinings of Urban Meyer and anyone who dare refuses to bow to the Gators ? including that court jester from Rocky Top.

About the only thing that went wrong was stupid NU walking right into that trap road game at Syracuse. We all saw it coming, and an early 17-0 hole sure didn?t help. Nice comeback, but tough to give away the game at the end. But no time to mope! It?s time for that ?Big Ten tingly feeling? as my old college roommate Jim used to say as conference play begins. And don?t look now, but the ACC may be starting to become relevant again! It?s a pretty good lineup this week, so let?s get to the games!

No Thursday night game this week ? we have enough to fill our slate without another overhyped SEC game with an Ole Miss team I just don?t believe in yet.

PIGSKIN PICKS ? WEEK 4
======================
Name: 

BIG TEN
-------
GAME 1: Illinois @ Ohio State
WINNER: 

GAME 2: Indiana @ Michigan
WINNER: 

GAME 3: Iowa @ Penn State
WINNER: 

GAME 4: Michigan State @ Wisconsin
WINNER: 

GAME 5: Notre Dame @ Purdue
WINNER: 

NATIONAL
--------
GAME 6: Miami (Fla.) @ Virginia Tech
WINNER: 

GAME 7: South Florida @ Florida State
WINNER: 

GAME 8: California @ Oregon
WINNER: 

GAME 9: North Carolina @ Georgia Tech
WINNER: 

GAME 10: Arizona State @ Georgia
WINNER: 

MY PICKS
========
* OHIO STATE 38, Illinois 17 ? The Buckeyes have finally opened up the offense while the Illini have quietly faded from relevance.

* MICHIGAN 42, Indiana 20 ? The clock strikes midnight for one of these 3-0 Cinderellas ? the smart money?s on Michigan still dancing at 12:01.

* PENN STATE 20, Iowa 16 ? Should be a heck of a game under the lights and it will be great to see the PSU White Out in full effect ? they?ll need all 100,000+ of those fans to finally get past the pesky Hawkeyes, who are coming in on a roll with that win over Arizona. PSU gets it done at home ? barely.

* MICHIGAN STATE 29, Wisconsin 27 ? This may be the toughest call of the week ? all the signs point to the Badgers shaking off their sluggish start and Sparty going into mental meltdown after blowing two games they should have won ? but I sense the Badgers are a tad overrated and MSU needs this one more.

* NOTRE DAME 45, Purdue 28 ? The F?ing Irish finally get a breather against the Big Ten, scoring a lot, but allowing a lot ? the Boilers just can?t keep up.

* MIAMI 27, Virginia Tech 17 ? Another tough call here ? under the lights, I?d take the Hokies in Blacksburg, but the Canes are used to tough environments and have too much offense. Tech needs to keep it ugly to stay close.

* FLORIDA STATE 31, South Florida 27 ? Not sure what happened to the Noles in Provo last week, but they better hope they remember how to do it. The Bulls will keep it close in Tallahassee and are looking for some Big Least respect, but ole crafty Bobby escapes, just in the plum of daggum time.

* CALIFORNIA 49, Oregon 27 ? Have the Quacks turned the corner? Nah. Bears roll and get ready for a visit from SC.

* GEORGIA TECH 24, North Carolina 20 ? One of those ACC toss-up games.

* GEORGIA 33, Arizona State 26 ? The Dawgs can?t play D and the SEC is a tad overrated, but I got burned believing the hype about a local team last week!

And off the board ?

* NORTHWESTERN 35, Minnesota 31 ? The Cats can?t get off to a slow start this week with the Gophers coming off a nice effort against Cal. Still, with Decker banged up a bit and NU fully focused after last week?s embarrassment, I?m hoping they rebound at home.

Those of you in the pro picks, don?t forget to log on and make your selections! As for the rest of you, get the picks in by kickoff Saturday.

GO CATS!!!
- SjT



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sjtruog@yahoo.com
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From jleonard518 at yahoo.com  Wed Sep 23 09:11:19 2009
From: jleonard518 at yahoo.com (Jim Leonard)
Date: Wed Sep 23 09:11:25 2009
Subject: [NU Sports] The cruelty of BTN programming
Message-ID: <828331.57019.qm@web36801.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

This morning I was channel surfing and saw that the Big Ten Network had an hour of Northwestern programming. I always get a kick out of the 'Northwestern - Good Thinking' commercial that features some of my Class of '97 friends from NUMB. However, the first story of the hour was about an NU theatre group doing a play called 'The Men from Syracuse'. 

I'm now watching Ocean's 13. 

Go Cats!
Jim




      

From jleonard518 at yahoo.com  Fri Sep 25 08:07:45 2009
From: jleonard518 at yahoo.com (Jim Leonard)
Date: Fri Sep 25 08:07:52 2009
Subject: [NU Sports] Minnesota Prediction
Message-ID: <371833.7161.qm@web36806.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

Fellow Wildcat Faithful,

Like I said earlier this week, I believe this is a must-win game for our bowl hopes. Assuming that the Cats have learned from last weeks mistakes, I think we are capable of beating the Gophers. Decker is one of the best receivers I've seen in my 16 seasons of Big Ten play, but McManis is back and that should help us considerably. 

On offense we should be alright moving the ball. I hope we see a little more of Persa running the option as a change of pace. Kafka has matured considerably this year and he should be able to get the ball in the end zone. 

Minnesota:           24
Northwestern:   31

Victory & Honor,
Jim



      

From Jeff.Beamsley at covisint.com  Fri Sep 25 08:35:33 2009
From: Jeff.Beamsley at covisint.com (Beamsley, Jeff)
Date: Fri Sep 25 08:35:46 2009
Subject: [NU Sports] Minnesota Prediction
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References: <371833.7161.qm@web36806.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
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Really hope you are correct in your prediction.

I'm concerned because of the points we gave up.  It could have been much
worse if Paulus had more experience and his receivers dropped fewer
passes.

Good that McManis is back.  We'll see if he is 100% and can cover
Decker.  Hopefully Decker is also less than 100%.  

There is rain in the forecast for the afternoon.  Maybe that will slow
Minny's passing game down.

I'd prefer to see a low scoring game where we run the ball, eat a lot of
clock, keep their offense on the sidelines, and keep our D fresh for a
strong pass rush.

Jeff


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From: nwu-sports-bounces@tssi.com [mailto:nwu-sports-bounces@tssi.com]
On Behalf Of Jim Leonard
Sent: Friday, September 25, 2009 9:08 AM
To: Northwestern Wildcats
Subject: [NU Sports] Minnesota Prediction

Fellow Wildcat Faithful,

Like I said earlier this week, I believe this is a must-win game for our
bowl hopes. Assuming that the Cats have learned from last weeks
mistakes, I think we are capable of beating the Gophers. Decker is one
of the best receivers I've seen in my 16 seasons of Big Ten play, but
McManis is back and that should help us considerably. 

On offense we should be alright moving the ball. I hope we see a little
more of Persa running the option as a change of pace. Kafka has matured
considerably this year and he should be able to get the ball in the end
zone. 

Minnesota:           24
Northwestern:   31

Victory & Honor,
Jim



      

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From tkmaycock at yahoo.com  Fri Sep 25 10:45:12 2009
From: tkmaycock at yahoo.com (Tom Maycock)
Date: Fri Sep 25 10:45:20 2009
Subject: [NU Sports] Any extra tix for Minny game?
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This is sort of pathetic, but...somehow we've managed to lose two extra tickets we were given for the Minn. game. That's unfortunate, because we were actually successful in recruiting a couple of friends to come to the game and use the tickets.

So, wondering if anyone has one or two extra tickets for the game? We don't actually need the seats themselves (as we'll be sitting in the spaces associated with the lost tickets). If so, drop me a note or give me a call.

On a semi-related note, it's actually tricky to find folks who have Saturday mornings free for a game. I'm more and more inclined to think that the prevalence of 11am start times is a big factor in attendance issues. 

Tom
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From tkmaycock at yahoo.com  Fri Sep 25 11:15:09 2009
From: tkmaycock at yahoo.com (Tom Maycock)
Date: Fri Sep 25 11:15:16 2009
Subject: [NU Sports] Any extra tix for Minny game?
In-Reply-To: <820244.86447.qm@web33107.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <638846.32120.qm@web33105.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

Looks like I've got a couple options already, thanks folks!


Tom

From nolan at romaine.tssi.com  Fri Sep 25 11:51:11 2009
From: nolan at romaine.tssi.com (Mike Nolan)
Date: Fri Sep 25 11:51:15 2009
Subject: [NU Sports] Any extra tix for Minny game?
In-Reply-To: <820244.86447.qm@web33107.mail.mud.yahoo.com> from "Tom Maycock"
	at Sep 25, 2009 08:45:12 AM
Message-ID: <200909251651.n8PGpBMW013848@romaine.tssi.com>

> On a semi-related note, it's actually tricky to find folks who have Saturday mornings free for a game. I'm more and more inclined to think that the prevalence of 11am start times is a big factor in attendance issues. 

The prevalence of 11AM start times was a factor in our decision not to
renew our season tickets several years ago.  
--
Mike Nolan

From wildelk2 at aol.com  Fri Sep 25 22:01:36 2009
From: wildelk2 at aol.com (wildelk2@aol.com)
Date: Fri Sep 25 22:02:05 2009
Subject: [NU Sports] Minnesota prediction
In-Reply-To: <200909251651.n8PGpBMW013848@romaine.tssi.com>
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?? Per Suntimes.com,? McManus, Nate Williams and S. Simmons should be playing on Saturday.? I didn't know all three were out vs. Syracuse; I picked NU to win a close one; still got close.? 

?? At the beginning of the season, I fretted that the offense wouldn't score, and the defense would have to "do the work."? That has not been the case!? I'm not convinced Wooten is 100%, or teams are double and triple teaming him, and the other defenders aren't getting pressure.? Simply put, a dreadful last 6 quarters by our defense.? McManus and Williams back will help.

?? I'm putting on my purple sunglasses, but Decker isn't 100%.? I say we win tomorrow, but don't bet the mortgage on it.? Cats 28? Minnesota 24.? Time to get defensive!! 

??????????????? GO CATS!!?????????????? Eric
-----Original Message-----
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To: Tom Maycock <tkmaycock@yahoo.com>
Cc: nwu-sports@tssi.com
Sent: Fri, Sep 25, 2009 12:51 pm
Subject: Re: [NU Sports] Any extra tix for Minny game?




> On a semi-related note, it's actually tricky to find folks who have Saturday 
mornings free for a game. I'm more and more inclined to think that the 
prevalence of 11am start times is a big factor in attendance issues. 

The prevalence of 11AM start times was a factor in our decision not to
renew our season tickets several years ago.  
--
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From tbng at comcast.net  Sat Sep 26 11:13:21 2009
From: tbng at comcast.net (Dennis W. Brandt)
Date: Sat Sep 26 11:13:41 2009
Subject: [NU Sports] After the first drive
Message-ID: <C986DAF99AB84F5B92E097D0CF34A761@DennisMachine>

1) The crowd is pathetic
2) The kick coverage was pathetic
3) The defense was even worse

Did Fitz bring back the '91 team?  I don't mean the young, in-shape '91 team.  I mean the way they are NOW.
From tbng at comcast.net  Sat Sep 26 12:43:11 2009
From: tbng at comcast.net (Dennis W. Brandt)
Date: Sat Sep 26 12:43:28 2009
Subject: [NU Sports] At the half
Message-ID: <480688DC031345BDB817BF980F56CC02@DennisMachine>

Better play but still not what we expected from this team.  Running is below average.  McManis is playing very well.  So is Kafka except for that boneheaded grounding and the interception that cost us a lead.  Gotta get much, MUCH better.  If we can.
From tbng at comcast.net  Sat Sep 26 14:07:16 2009
From: tbng at comcast.net (Dennis W. Brandt)
Date: Sat Sep 26 14:07:34 2009
Subject: [NU Sports] At the end
References: <480688DC031345BDB817BF980F56CC02@DennisMachine>
Message-ID: <9FEC3385CA044749B499A93551BB2DA6@DennisMachine>

DAMN!  Another week of poor run defense and critical QB turnovers have 
killed us.  I was certain we had a legitimate shot to be undefeated going 
into the Penn State game.  Instead, we'll be lucky to play .500 this season. 
This team is a disappointment. 

From Alan.Abrahamson at nbcsports.com  Sat Sep 26 14:10:56 2009
From: Alan.Abrahamson at nbcsports.com (Abrahamson, Alan (NBC Universal))
Date: Sat Sep 26 14:11:24 2009
Subject: [NU Sports] At the end
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I agree all around. Ugh.

-----Original Message-----
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On Behalf Of Dennis W. Brandt
Sent: Saturday, September 26, 2009 12:07 PM
To: nwu-sports@tssi.com
Subject: [NU Sports] At the end

DAMN!  Another week of poor run defense and critical QB turnovers have 
killed us.  I was certain we had a legitimate shot to be undefeated
going 
into the Penn State game.  Instead, we'll be lucky to play .500 this
season. 
This team is a disappointment. 

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From sjtruog at yahoo.com  Sat Sep 26 14:33:45 2009
From: sjtruog at yahoo.com (SjT (Stephen J. Truog))
Date: Sat Sep 26 14:33:53 2009
Subject: [NU Sports] The morning report ...
Message-ID: <723148.30559.qm@web52901.mail.re2.yahoo.com>

Tough game for Cats fans to swallow - it seems like we have the pieces in place (a dangerous inference to our old friend Wanny), but just don't have that confidence to close the deal.

We just don't seize momentum on offense -- it's a double-whammy where most of the game, we're more comfortable playing catch-up and then at the end, we're caught like a deer in the headlights. In the past, we've embraced the former but done the opposite for the latter, but we can't play with fire this year.

For example, after the opening drives of each team left the score at 7-3 Minny, our D makes a stand and it's a great time to take control ... but fizzle. Again, we come out after halftime with a great chance to seize the lead and ... zip, nada, punt. It was the same story with Syracuse. We do a decent job ANSWERING them (until the final minutes), but can't get over that hump when we aren't playing from behind.

But this is not solely an offensive problem - the D can be described as schizophrenic at best, looking great one series and terrible the next. And toward the end, we just got wore down. And the special teams lost the battle of field position all day. So the late turnovers hurt again, but this loss -- like last week -- was a team effort in all three areas. At least this time it's to a better team, but on the bad side, it's a conference loss.

We're a team in need of Kyra Sedgwick -- someone to close the deal. We hung right there with Minnesota despite that horrible start and we had every opportunity to win this game, but we just couldn't seal the deal on those key drives late (though the 4th and 1 touchdown play was a step in that direction). Time to dig deep and suck it up for Purdue next week.

On the plus side, PURPLE FIELDS FOREVER! We need to find ways to get the ball to Arby Fields and Demetrius Fields as many times as possible - Dunsmore, too. And it was nice to see Wootten get some pressure as well. Good, but not good enough.

On the bad side, besides the special teams and boom-or-bust defense, it was nice to see SOMEONE (alum Chris Martin) notice how stupid a call it is to have Kafka roll to his left and throw a floater across the body that is interception bait ... yet we call that play time after time.

As for Minnesota, I think we can safely say that Eric Decker is the best receiver in the league and perhaps even the nation. They need to find a less predictable way to use their version of the Wildcat, but with the opening jitters of the new stadium over and their physicality to go along with Decker, Minny could be a big factor in the Big Ten race. They get a couple winnable games at home and should be 5-1 before a brutal two-game road stretch at OSU and PSU. After that, though, they could run the table if they win at Iowa and be 9-3 with all losses against top 10 teams.

Around the league ...

* Along with Decker on the all-league team, I think we can reserve a spot for Brandon Minor of Michigan as the best running back ... at least until Royster at PSU decides to step up and play.

* Speaking of Michigan, welcome to the gut-wrenching world of the spread offense, Michigan fans. Ask your friends in Evanston for tips on stocking up with extra TUMS. The spread can help you win just about any game you're in, but it can also make every game a close one - even against teams like Indiana that you should beat handily. It took another gutsy performance by Forcier and a homer official call on a late interception to put away Indiana. Still 4-0 looks darn good.

* On the flip side, I think we can start to forecast a Sparty slide -- and it's coming earlier than usual this year. I honestly thought MSU was past this and had the mental toughness, but after two heartbreakers, they laid an absolute egg in Madison. With Michigan and a road trip to Illinois up next, it could quickly go to 1-5 and those Eagles-fan-like boos could rain down in Spartan Stadium.

* Wisconsin, on the other hand, finally looked like a decent team after a sluggish cupcake schedule. It should be real interesting to see the Badgers/Gophers next week and see who steps up as a darkhorse and who is relegated to Motor City Bowl watch status.

Frustrating morning, but we've got the Illini and Buckeyes on deck from Columbus in what is usually a good ole' slobberknocker and then the main event in Happy Valley with the Hog-eyes and Nits. I sure hope the rain stops so we can see the White Out in full effect. It is, far and away, the best atmosphere in sports and an incredible setting for a game -- hopefully the play on the field matches the surroundings.

GO CATS!!!
And GO PURDUE! <For tonight's game with the Evil Empire ONLY>
-SjT

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STEPHEN J. TRUOG
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From scottzel at gmail.com  Sat Sep 26 15:32:20 2009
From: scottzel at gmail.com (Scott Zeller)
Date: Sat Sep 26 15:32:42 2009
Subject: [NU Sports] At the end
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The good news is, think of how much money we will all save by not having to
travel to a bowl game this year.

On Sat, Sep 26, 2009 at 12:10 PM, Abrahamson, Alan (NBC Universal) <
Alan.Abrahamson@nbcsports.com> wrote:

> I agree all around. Ugh.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: nwu-sports-bounces@tssi.com [mailto:nwu-sports-bounces@tssi.com]
> On Behalf Of Dennis W. Brandt
> Sent: Saturday, September 26, 2009 12:07 PM
> To: nwu-sports@tssi.com
> Subject: [NU Sports] At the end
>
> DAMN!  Another week of poor run defense and critical QB turnovers have
> killed us.  I was certain we had a legitimate shot to be undefeated
> going
> into the Penn State game.  Instead, we'll be lucky to play .500 this
> season.
> This team is a disappointment.
>
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From jleonard518 at yahoo.com  Sat Sep 26 16:06:49 2009
From: jleonard518 at yahoo.com (Jim Leonard)
Date: Sat Sep 26 16:07:07 2009
Subject: [NU Sports] %$@#
Message-ID: <542682.73988.qm@web36802.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

Fellow Wildcat Faithful,

Somewhere in the world Tony Stauss is having a good laugh. Kafka has come A LONG WAY from his freshman year, but when the game is on the line (like at Indiana last year) he really looks confused and out of place.

For the second week in a row we left a W on the field. This was painful to watch. 

Victory & Honor,
Jim



      

From jonathanwhodges at gmail.com  Sat Sep 26 16:18:59 2009
From: jonathanwhodges at gmail.com (Jonathan Hodges)
Date: Sat Sep 26 16:19:40 2009
Subject: [NU Sports] %$@#
In-Reply-To: <542682.73988.qm@web36802.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
References: <542682.73988.qm@web36802.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
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Although Kafka could use improvement (that second quarter red zone INT cost
NU), don't blame all of the failures on him.  The OL play and play-calling
deserve at least a share of the blame.

The right side of the offensive line seemingly collapsed on both of those
late Kafka fumbles.  And the fact that NU was passing over 60% of the time
allowed the Minnesota defense to tee up and send the blitz without any
regard to the run.

The 'Cats were in a position to try and win at the end (like last week), so
hopefully there will be some positive changes going into next week's winable
game at Purdue.

The most frustrating things, though, were points left off the board.  A
holding call on the first NU drive that negated first and goal at the four.
The Kafka red zone INT.  And the Kafka pass that went just off the
fingertips of Stewart in the 4th that would have likely gone all the way.

Go 'Cats!!!
Jonathan

On Sat, Sep 26, 2009 at 4:06 PM, Jim Leonard <jleonard518@yahoo.com> wrote:

> Fellow Wildcat Faithful,
>
> Somewhere in the world Tony Stauss is having a good laugh. Kafka has come A
> LONG WAY from his freshman year, but when the game is on the line (like at
> Indiana last year) he really looks confused and out of place.
>
> For the second week in a row we left a W on the field. This was painful to
> watch.
>
> Victory & Honor,
> Jim
>
>
>
>
>
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From jleonard518 at yahoo.com  Sat Sep 26 16:24:41 2009
From: jleonard518 at yahoo.com (Jim Leonard)
Date: Sat Sep 26 16:24:49 2009
Subject: [NU Sports] %$@#
In-Reply-To: <fcb3ee270909261418t3ec4b1afp98cb56d69e52018f@mail.gmail.com>
References: <542682.73988.qm@web36802.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
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Message-ID: <887774.86277.qm@web36802.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

I agree. This isn't Kafka's loss. The 0-line was weak, the defense didn't do much, and some of the play calling was bad.

Still sucks though.

Jim




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To: Jim Leonard <jleonard518@yahoo.com>
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Sent: Saturday, September 26, 2009 4:18:59 PM
Subject: Re: [NU Sports] %$@#

Although Kafka could use improvement (that second quarter red zone INT cost NU), don't blame all of the failures on him.  The OL play and play-calling deserve at least a share of the blame.

The right side of the offensive line seemingly collapsed on both of those late Kafka fumbles.  And the fact that NU was passing over 60% of the time allowed the Minnesota defense to tee up and send the blitz without any regard to the run.

The 'Cats were in a position to try and win at the end (like last week), so hopefully there will be some positive changes going into next week's winable game at Purdue.

The most frustrating things, though, were points left off the board.  A holding call on the first NU drive that negated first and goal at the four.  The Kafka red zone INT.  And the Kafka pass that went just off the fingertips of Stewart in the 4th that would have likely gone all the way.

Go 'Cats!!!
Jonathan


On Sat, Sep 26, 2009 at 4:06 PM, Jim Leonard <jleonard518@yahoo.com> wrote:

>
>Fellow Wildcat Faithful,
>
>>Somewhere in the world Tony Stauss is having a good laugh. Kafka has come A LONG WAY from his freshman year, but when the game is on the line (like at Indiana last year) he really looks confused and out of place.
>
>>For the second week in a row we left a W on the field. This was painful to watch.
>
>>Victory & Honor,
>>Jim
>
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From sjtruog at yahoo.com  Sat Sep 26 17:35:51 2009
From: sjtruog at yahoo.com (SjT (Stephen J. Truog))
Date: Sat Sep 26 17:35:58 2009
Subject: [NU Sports] Afternoon report ...
Message-ID: <618107.11711.qm@web52904.mail.re2.yahoo.com>

Not much of a game in Columbus for the afternoon. The Illini just do not have this "team concept" down yet and looked completely disorganized and disinterested. Also, Ohio State's defense is looking better than last year, despite all those losses to the NFL draft. The D played well enough to beat USC save for one drive - if the offense ever starts playing ball, they could be back in the top spot and get a rematch in Pasadena.

Elsewhere ...

- Miami and FSU have to come north to play in the weather in Blacksburg. Pity we can't force the SEC schools to travel up north for some weather games.

- Out west, whaaaaaaaaaa??? Cal blew a big time chance to set up the SC game next week and once again, the Ducks because USC's best friend (last year vs. Oregon State) to help the Trojans back to the Rose Bowl. But after the suspension of that KO-throwing punk and the payback for the fan's trip to Boise, Chip Kelley is quickly becoming a popular coach and this is a nice turnaround from week 1!

So does that mean Minny and Cal are all overrated ... or that Purdue has a chance tonight with the DOH!mers? What a crazy game.

On to the main event in Happy Valley!

GO CATS!!!
-SjT

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From sjtruog at yahoo.com  Sat Sep 26 22:46:38 2009
From: sjtruog at yahoo.com (SjT (Stephen J. Truog))
Date: Sat Sep 26 22:46:57 2009
Subject: [NU Sports] Evening report ...
Message-ID: <186795.45940.qm@web52908.mail.re2.yahoo.com>

A couple of good ole' defensive games among the late games.

* Kirk Ferentz is the new Lloyd Carr and just has JoePa's number. Talk about a great first quarter for PSU ... but when they couldn't go up 14-0 and settled for three and Iowa hung around, you kind of got the feeling where the story was going. The Nittany Lions' senior leadership faded down the stretch while Iowa's youth came up with a big win. Should be a fun game with Michigan in two weeks under the lights at Kinnick.

As for PSU, it will be interesting to see how they rebound. Their schedule is still set up well for a Rose Bowl run with OSU visiting, but they can't afford any more slips.

* Meanwhile in West Lafayette, both of the offensive juggernauts somehow played a low-scoring game. Every time I flipped over, it seemed like the Irish were getting some help from the zebras, but Purdue still had plenty of chances. After three straight tough losses, it will be interesting to see how the Boilers respond next week against NU. Hopefully for us, they take the Sparty route and some out emotionally flat.

So what do we know of the Big Ten after this reshuffling first week?

* Team to beat: Ohio State. The big question coming into the year was the D, but it appears to be better than ever. If Pryor and Herron catch fire, it's tough to see anyone staying close until their big stretch run in November of PSU, Iowa and Michigan.

* Darkhorse: Michigan. I know Iowa's been the popular pick for weeks and will be even more now, but I still don't believe in them. They just have PSU's number. The Maize and Blue have much more fire and explosiveness - they get PSU and OSU at home and if they can survive their next two against Sparty and the Hawkeyes, they could move up to the team to beat.

* Pretender: Wisconsin. I'm not a Hawkeye believer, but Iowa's a 9-win team. The Badgers are living a charmed existence right now and the clock could strike midnight in Minneapolis next week.

* Still in the hunt: Penn State and Minnesota. The Lions still have a favorable schedule and I like the Gophers' physicality for the October and November home stretch.

* Stick a fork in them: Illinois and Michigan State. I haven't put NU in here yet, but that could change after next week. However, Sparty and the Illini both have a recent history of packing it in after tough losses and they're on the verge of collapse.

And one thing we know for sure is that nothing will be easy in the Big Ten this year. Purdue and especially Indiana appear much better than expected. I don't expect either to be bowling this year, but I could see an upset or two from each.

Should be a fun ride - hopefully Fitz can get NU back on track next week.

GO CATS!!!
-SjT

* * * * * * * * *
STEPHEN J. TRUOG
sjtruog@yahoo.com
GO CATS!!!


      

From dpenderg at aol.com  Sun Sep 27 06:50:03 2009
From: dpenderg at aol.com (dpenderg@aol.com)
Date: Sun Sep 27 06:50:24 2009
Subject: [NU Sports] At the end
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It is not only a pathetic defense (absolutely terrible tackling) and?an error-prone offense, but special teams -- notably kickoff return and coverage -- which make this team at best mediocre.? With exception of Miami game, Cats plausibly could lose the rest of their games without dramatic turnaround.? We all love Fitz, but what I saw at Ryan Field? yesterday?is simply not a very well-coached team.? Both coaches and players must step up quickly starting at Purdue or this season could unravel completely.? 









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The good news is, think of how much money we will all save by not having to
travel to a bowl game this year.

On Sat, Sep 26, 2009 at 12:10 PM, Abrahamson, Alan (NBC Universal) <
Alan.Abrahamson@nbcsports.com> wrote:

> I agree all around. Ugh.
>
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> On Behalf Of Dennis W. Brandt
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> To: nwu-sports@tssi.com
> Subject: [NU Sports] At the end
>
> DAMN!  Another week of poor run defense and critical QB turnovers have
> killed us.  I was certain we had a legitimate shot to be undefeated
> going
> into the Penn State game.  Instead, we'll be lucky to play .500 this
> season.
> This team is a disappointment.
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From tbng at comcast.net  Sun Sep 27 07:52:24 2009
From: tbng at comcast.net (Dennis W. Brandt)
Date: Sun Sep 27 07:52:43 2009
Subject: [NU Sports] At the end
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<[From] what I saw at Ryan Field yesterday is simply not a very well-coached 
team.  Both coaches and players must step up quickly starting at Purdue or 
this season could unravel completely.

All true.  Not only was our tackling horrible, but we were physically 
dominated, too.  We still lack that extra measure of strength, speed, and 
quickness that separates the average teams from the good.  To beat a team 
like Minnesota, you have to tackle in the open field, and we did little of 
that.  Of course, we didn't do it in the interior line either.  High 
expectations, low results.

From tkmaycock at yahoo.com  Sun Sep 27 09:14:10 2009
From: tkmaycock at yahoo.com (Tom Maycock)
Date: Sun Sep 27 09:14:17 2009
Subject: [NU Sports] At the end
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My 2 cents:

For the second week in a row, if a couple of plays had turned out differently, we'd be talking about one of the great QB performances in NU history. Unfortunately, the plays Kafka didn't make overshadowed those he did again this week. Same for the receivers--huge games from Fields, Markshausen, Dunsmore, etc. But a couple of drops really hurt.

But those few misconnections shouldn't have been the difference. Kafka and the gang didn't play championship football, but what they did should have been enough. 

The big problem was our inability to stop the run up the middle, poor tackling, and a lack of...something (energy? focus? enthusiasm?) on a couple of key drives. 

Ultimately, I suspect we miss Mims and Gill way more than I thought we would. I really think that if you plugged those two back into this defense, we'd be in a very different situation.

The reality is that we are now talented enough to hang with most teams, but we have a very small margin for error. Last year was no different in that respect, but the 2008 Cats made just enough plays to put Ws on the board.

I'm certainly not jumping off the bowl bandwagon yet, but a bunch of things need to improve. The Cats really need to shore up that interior defense, work on both ends of the kickoff game, and start making those one or two extra plays on offense.

Oh, and play Arby Fields more. Wow, he's got a huge upside.

Tom

From Jeff.Beamsley at covisint.com  Sun Sep 27 11:33:54 2009
From: Jeff.Beamsley at covisint.com (Beamsley, Jeff)
Date: Sun Sep 27 11:40:03 2009
Subject: [NU Sports] At the end
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Amen!

Other teams have seen our challenges with run exploited by eastern and  
are going to make us stop the run.

On offense, we're living through the first year of a new qb. He  
happens to be a senior, but this is new territory for him and it  
shows. I have hopes that we will see his decision making improve, but  
I'm not sure that life is going to get a lot better on D. We may have  
to live with high scoring as our gameplan for the rest of the season.

Jeff

Sent from my iPhone

On Sep 27, 2009, at 10:14 AM, "Tom Maycock" <tkmaycock@yahoo.com> wrote:

> My 2 cents:
>
> For the second week in a row, if a couple of plays had turned out  
> differently, we'd be talking about one of the great QB performances  
> in NU history. Unfortunately, the plays Kafka didn't make  
> overshadowed those he did again this week. Same for the receivers-- 
> huge games from Fields, Markshausen, Dunsmore, etc. But a couple of  
> drops really hurt.
>
> But those few misconnections shouldn't have been the difference.  
> Kafka and the gang didn't play championship football, but what they  
> did should have been enough.
>
> The big problem was our inability to stop the run up the middle,  
> poor tackling, and a lack of...something (energy? focus?  
> enthusiasm?) on a couple of key drives.
>
> Ultimately, I suspect we miss Mims and Gill way more than I thought  
> we would. I really think that if you plugged those two back into  
> this defense, we'd be in a very different situation.
>
> The reality is that we are now talented enough to hang with most  
> teams, but we have a very small margin for error. Last year was no  
> different in that respect, but the 2008 Cats made just enough plays  
> to put Ws on the board.
>
> I'm certainly not jumping off the bowl bandwagon yet, but a bunch of  
> things need to improve. The Cats really need to shore up that  
> interior defense, work on both ends of the kickoff game, and start  
> making those one or two extra plays on offense.
>
> Oh, and play Arby Fields more. Wow, he's got a huge upside.
>
> Tom
>
> 
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From thehaze at earthlink.net  Sun Sep 27 20:05:01 2009
From: thehaze at earthlink.net (Jim Bendat)
Date: Sun Sep 27 20:05:28 2009
Subject: [NU Sports] %$@#
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Totally agree. When the game is a close one, Kafka sure doesn't remind me of Schnur, Kustok or Basanez. - Jim B.

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>
>Somewhere in the world Tony Stauss is having a good laugh. Kafka has come A LONG WAY from his freshman year, but when the game is on the line (like at Indiana last year) he really looks confused and out of place.
>
>Victory & Honor,
>Jim
>

From mlinhardt at netzero.com  Mon Sep 28 05:59:55 2009
From: mlinhardt at netzero.com (mlinhardt@netzero.com)
Date: Mon Sep 28 06:02:11 2009
Subject: [NU Sports] At the end
Message-ID: <20090928.055955.5142.2@webmail09.dca.untd.com>

Yes, yes, and yes.  You hit the nail on the head.

We miss the graduated parts of the D-line.  They were able to free up Woo-woo to be a menace to the backfield.

If you asked me before the season I would have been most worried about he QB and whether he was a one-trick pony(run).  Kafka has been a PLEASANT surprise.  He is NOT the reason why we are losing.  He is prolific, but he just needs to work on his internal clock.  CJ threw just as many or more picks, but after his first full year he stopped fumbling.  Kafka will be an amazing all-around game-dominating QB next year...oh wait he doesn't have a next year, which means the other parts of the team have to step up.  Maureen thinks you pull Kafka, not to get better results(probably worse results), but to season him for next year, otherwise we will repeat the brilliance/turnovers with Persa in '10.

Our defense can't tackle, excluding Sherrick and Brendan.  Brad is even a bigger disappointment than woo-woo -- check the film.

As one of the < 20K fans I am embarassed.  Even during my years(89-93) I thought we had better attendance and we didn't win more than a handful of games.

---------- Original Message ----------
From: Tom Maycock <tkmaycock@yahoo.com>

My 2 cents:

For the second week in a row, if a couple of plays had turned out differently, we'd be talking about one of the great QB performances in NU history. Unfortunately, the plays Kafka didn't make overshadowed those he did again this week. Same for the receivers--huge games from Fields, Markshausen, Dunsmore, etc. But a couple of drops really hurt.

But those few misconnections shouldn't have been the difference. Kafka and the gang didn't play championship football, but what they did should have been enough. 

The big problem was our inability to stop the run up the middle, poor tackling, and a lack of...something (energy? focus? enthusiasm?) on a couple of key drives. 

Ultimately, I suspect we miss Mims and Gill way more than I thought we would. I really think that if you plugged those two back into this defense, we'd be in a very different situation.

The reality is that we are now talented enough to hang with most teams, but we have a very small margin for error. Last year was no different in that respect, but the 2008 Cats made just enough plays to put Ws on the board.

I'm certainly not jumping off the bowl bandwagon yet, but a bunch of things need to improve. The Cats really need to shore up that interior defense, work on both ends of the kickoff game, and start making those one or two extra plays on offense.

Oh, and play Arby Fields more. Wow, he's got a huge upside.

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From cherron604 at aol.com  Mon Sep 28 13:12:33 2009
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Date: Mon Sep 28 13:13:15 2009
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Does anybody else have a problem with Kafka getting Big Ten honors last week against Syracuse despite losing the game ?? Doesn't this reinforce many of the bad things about football (i.e. stats are everything).? The Big Ten needs to amend its rules so that only players on teams that win that week are considered for Big Ten player of the week honors



Chuck Herron?? Tech '85


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Amen!?
?
Other teams have seen our challenges with run exploited by eastern and are going to make us stop the run.?
?
On offense, we're living through the first year of a new qb. He happens to be a senior, but this is new territory for him and it shows. I have hopes that we will see his decision making improve, but I'm not sure that life is going to get a lot better on D. We may have to live with high scoring as our gameplan for the rest of the season.?
?
Jeff?
?
Sent from my iPhone?
?
On Sep 27, 2009, at 10:14 AM, "Tom Maycock" <tkmaycock@yahoo.com> wrote:?
?
> My 2 cents:?
>?
> For the second week in a row, if a couple of plays had turned out > differently, we'd be talking about one of the great QB performances > in NU history. Unfortunately, the plays Kafka didn't make > overshadowed those he did again this week. Same for the receivers--> huge games from Fields, Markshausen, Dunsmore, etc. But a couple of > drops really hurt.?
>?
> But those few misconnections shouldn't have been the difference. > Kafka and the gang didn't play championship football, but what they > did should have been enough.?
>?
> The big problem was our inability to stop the run up the middle, > poor tackling, and a lack of...something (energy? focus? > enthusiasm?) on a couple of key drives.?
>?
> Ultimately, I suspect we miss Mims and Gill way more than I thought > we would. I really think that if you plugged those two back into > this defense, we'd be in a very different situation.?
>?
> The reality is that we are now talented enough to hang with most > teams, but we have a very small margin for error. Last year was no > different in that respect, but the 2008 Cats made just enough plays > to put Ws on the board.?
>?
> I'm certainly not jumping off the bowl bandwagon yet, but a bunch of > things need to improve. The Cats really need to shore up that > interior defense, work on both ends of the kickoff game, and start > making those one or two extra plays on offense.?
>?
> Oh, and play Arby Fields more. Wow, he's got a huge upside.?
>?
> Tom?
>?
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From jonathanwhodges at gmail.com  Mon Sep 28 13:20:48 2009
From: jonathanwhodges at gmail.com (Jonathan Hodges)
Date: Mon Sep 28 13:21:19 2009
Subject: [NU Sports] At the end
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He was a "co-offensive POW" shared with Michigan's RB Carlos Brown last
week, for the record.  But, it's hard to argue against a guy that completed
16 consecutive passes to start the game and set a school record for
completion percentage while throwing for almost 400 yards and became the
first Big Ten player in 5 years to record a TD passing, rushing, and
receiving.

I concur that guys really only deserve awards if in winning efforts,
although I acknowledge that in today's "fantasy football" world, huge stats
carry a ton of weight.  He did have a big error on the night (the INT that
turned into Syracuse's game winning FG drive) and NU lost, but in today's
stat-driven world it's hard to dismiss those numbers, especially when there
wasn't a ton of other performances as well rounded as his that week.

Jonathan

On Mon, Sep 28, 2009 at 1:12 PM, <cherron604@aol.com> wrote:

>
> Does anybody else have a problem with Kafka getting Big Ten honors last
> week against Syracuse despite losing the game ?? Doesn't this reinforce many
> of the bad things about football (i.e. stats are everything).? The Big Ten
> needs to amend its rules so that only players on teams that win that week
> are considered for Big Ten player of the week honors
>
>
>
> Chuck Herron?? Tech '85
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Beamsley, Jeff <Jeff.Beamsley@covisint.com>
> To: Tom Maycock <tkmaycock@yahoo.com>
> Cc: nwu-sports@tssi.com
> Sent: Sun, Sep 27, 2009 11:33 am
> Subject: Re: [NU Sports] At the end
>
>
>
> Amen!?
> ?
> Other teams have seen our challenges with run exploited by eastern and are
> going to make us stop the run.?
> ?
> On offense, we're living through the first year of a new qb. He happens to
> be a senior, but this is new territory for him and it shows. I have hopes
> that we will see his decision making improve, but I'm not sure that life is
> going to get a lot better on D. We may have to live with high scoring as our
> gameplan for the rest of the season.?
> ?
> Jeff?
> ?
> Sent from my iPhone?
> ?
> On Sep 27, 2009, at 10:14 AM, "Tom Maycock" <tkmaycock@yahoo.com> wrote:?
> ?
> > My 2 cents:?
> >?
> > For the second week in a row, if a couple of plays had turned out >
> differently, we'd be talking about one of the great QB performances > in NU
> history. Unfortunately, the plays Kafka didn't make > overshadowed those he
> did again this week. Same for the receivers--> huge games from Fields,
> Markshausen, Dunsmore, etc. But a couple of > drops really hurt.?
> >?
> > But those few misconnections shouldn't have been the difference. > Kafka
> and the gang didn't play championship football, but what they > did should
> have been enough.?
> >?
> > The big problem was our inability to stop the run up the middle, > poor
> tackling, and a lack of...something (energy? focus? > enthusiasm?) on a
> couple of key drives.?
> >?
> > Ultimately, I suspect we miss Mims and Gill way more than I thought > we
> would. I really think that if you plugged those two back into > this
> defense, we'd be in a very different situation.?
> >?
> > The reality is that we are now talented enough to hang with most > teams,
> but we have a very small margin for error. Last year was no > different in
> that respect, but the 2008 Cats made just enough plays > to put Ws on the
> board.?
> >?
> > I'm certainly not jumping off the bowl bandwagon yet, but a bunch of >
> things need to improve. The Cats really need to shore up that > interior
> defense, work on both ends of the kickoff game, and start > making those one
> or two extra plays on offense.?
> >?
> > Oh, and play Arby Fields more. Wow, he's got a huge upside.?
> >?
> > Tom?
> >?
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From tkmaycock at yahoo.com  Mon Sep 28 13:34:24 2009
From: tkmaycock at yahoo.com (Tom Maycock)
Date: Mon Sep 28 13:34:31 2009
Subject: [NU Sports] At the end
In-Reply-To: <fcb3ee270909281120u4cba16cbo56744bdf87c94a53@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <316568.97552.qm@web33101.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

> But, it's hard to argue against a guy that
> completed 16 consecutive passes to start the game and set a
> school record for completion percentage while throwing for
> almost 400 yards and became the first Big Ten player in 5
> years to record a TD passing, rushing, and receiving.

Exactly. That performance was easily deserving of the POW recognition in my opinion. 

It was a Hesiman-trophy caliber performance, albeit overshadowed a bit by the turnovers. Even with the turnovers, he played well enought to win. It wasn't Kafka's fault half the defense was out with injuries and the other half didn't play well. 

Tom
 

From Jeff.Beamsley at covisint.com  Mon Sep 28 13:40:19 2009
From: Jeff.Beamsley at covisint.com (Beamsley, Jeff)
Date: Mon Sep 28 13:41:23 2009
Subject: [NU Sports] At the end
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Sorry guys, but I disagree.  
 
You could use the same argument to claim that, because it is a team
game, it is inappropriate to recognize any individual achievements.
 
The reality is that it IS a stats-driven world and many of these kids
have aspirations to play on Sunday.
 
The stats at least provide those who are INDIVIDUALLY playing  above the
level of their competitors the opportunity to shine even though they may
be on a losing team.  That is good news for teams like NU that want to
recruit top level players but can't promise the same winning percentage
as the "powerhouse" schools.
 
I do agree with you that the world would be simpler and more pleasant
place if we just kept track of wins and losses.  W win by 1 point would
count no more or less than a win by 50.  I think that it could make the
game a little more civilized.  As a result, I doubt it would ever
happen.
 
Jeff
 
 
 

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From: Jonathan Hodges [mailto:jonathanwhodges@gmail.com] 
Sent: Monday, September 28, 2009 2:21 PM
To: cherron604@aol.com
Cc: Beamsley, Jeff; tkmaycock@yahoo.com; nwu-sports@tssi.com
Subject: Re: [NU Sports] At the end


He was a "co-offensive POW" shared with Michigan's RB Carlos Brown last
week, for the record.  But, it's hard to argue against a guy that
completed 16 consecutive passes to start the game and set a school
record for completion percentage while throwing for almost 400 yards and
became the first Big Ten player in 5 years to record a TD passing,
rushing, and receiving.

I concur that guys really only deserve awards if in winning efforts,
although I acknowledge that in today's "fantasy football" world, huge
stats carry a ton of weight.  He did have a big error on the night (the
INT that turned into Syracuse's game winning FG drive) and NU lost, but
in today's stat-driven world it's hard to dismiss those numbers,
especially when there wasn't a ton of other performances as well rounded
as his that week.

Jonathan


On Mon, Sep 28, 2009 at 1:12 PM, <cherron604@aol.com> wrote:



	Does anybody else have a problem with Kafka getting Big Ten
honors last week against Syracuse despite losing the game ?? Doesn't
this reinforce many of the bad things about football (i.e. stats are
everything).? The Big Ten needs to amend its rules so that only players
on teams that win that week are considered for Big Ten player of the
week honors
	
	
	
	Chuck Herron?? Tech '85
	


	-----Original Message-----
	From: Beamsley, Jeff <Jeff.Beamsley@covisint.com>
	To: Tom Maycock <tkmaycock@yahoo.com>
	Cc: nwu-sports@tssi.com
	Sent: Sun, Sep 27, 2009 11:33 am
	Subject: Re: [NU Sports] At the end
	
	
	
	
	Amen!?
	?
	Other teams have seen our challenges with run exploited by
eastern and are going to make us stop the run.?
	?
	On offense, we're living through the first year of a new qb. He
happens to be a senior, but this is new territory for him and it shows.
I have hopes that we will see his decision making improve, but I'm not
sure that life is going to get a lot better on D. We may have to live
with high scoring as our gameplan for the rest of the season.?
	?
	Jeff?
	?
	Sent from my iPhone?
	?
	On Sep 27, 2009, at 10:14 AM, "Tom Maycock"
<tkmaycock@yahoo.com> wrote:?
	?
	> My 2 cents:?
	>?
	> For the second week in a row, if a couple of plays had turned
out > differently, we'd be talking about one of the great QB
performances > in NU history. Unfortunately, the plays Kafka didn't make
> overshadowed those he did again this week. Same for the receivers-->
huge games from Fields, Markshausen, Dunsmore, etc. But a couple of >
drops really hurt.?
	>?
	> But those few misconnections shouldn't have been the
difference. > Kafka and the gang didn't play championship football, but
what they > did should have been enough.?
	>?
	> The big problem was our inability to stop the run up the
middle, > poor tackling, and a lack of...something (energy? focus? >
enthusiasm?) on a couple of key drives.?
	>?
	> Ultimately, I suspect we miss Mims and Gill way more than I
thought > we would. I really think that if you plugged those two back
into > this defense, we'd be in a very different situation.?
	>?
	> The reality is that we are now talented enough to hang with
most > teams, but we have a very small margin for error. Last year was
no > different in that respect, but the 2008 Cats made just enough plays
> to put Ws on the board.?
	>?
	> I'm certainly not jumping off the bowl bandwagon yet, but a
bunch of > things need to improve. The Cats really need to shore up that
> interior defense, work on both ends of the kickoff game, and start >
making those one or two extra plays on offense.?
	>?
	> Oh, and play Arby Fields more. Wow, he's got a huge upside.?
	>?
	> Tom?
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From cherron604 at aol.com  Mon Sep 28 13:59:41 2009
From: cherron604 at aol.com (cherron604@aol.com)
Date: Mon Sep 28 14:00:05 2009
Subject: [NU Sports] At the end
In-Reply-To: <316568.97552.qm@web33101.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <8CC0E84F7EBF284-5F2C-2191C@webmail-m028.sysops.aol.com>


I don't want NU to develop a culture where personal accomplishment ever overshadows group accomplishment, however.? The concept of football as a team game must never be compromised.



I think of ESPN showing a big home run - hit by a guy whose team lost 6-1 or something.? ESPN hails it as a great shot, but it isn't.



It would be far better to recognize the second baseman, who moved a runner up with a deep fly ball after battling back from an 0-2 count.? Or a offensive lineman, whose key block early in the game helped produce a 6 yd run, and kept a drive alive.



Would?Vince Lombardi?let a player keep an honor if his team had lost ?



Chuck Herron?? Tech '85


-----Original Message-----
From: Tom Maycock <tkmaycock@yahoo.com>
To: cherron604@aol.com; Jonathan Hodges <jonathanwhodges@gmail.com>
Cc: Jeff.Beamsley@covisint.com; nwu-sports@tssi.com
Sent: Mon, Sep 28, 2009 1:34 pm
Subject: Re: [NU Sports] At the end




> But, it's hard to argue against a guy that
> completed 16 consecutive passes to start the game and set a
> school record for completion percentage while throwing for
> almost 400 yards and became the first Big Ten player in 5
> years to record a TD passing, rushing, and receiving.

Exactly. That performance was easily deserving of the POW recognition in my 
opinion. 

It was a Hesiman-trophy caliber performance, albeit overshadowed a bit by the 
turnovers. Even with the turnovers, he played well enought to win. It wasn't 
Kafka's fault half the defense was out with injuries and the other half didn't 
play well. 

Tom
 

From e-west at northwestern.edu  Mon Sep 28 14:12:37 2009
From: e-west at northwestern.edu (Eric West)
Date: Mon Sep 28 14:13:09 2009
Subject: [NU Sports] At the end
In-Reply-To: <316568.97552.qm@web33101.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
References: <316568.97552.qm@web33101.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <4AC10AA5.4040406@northwestern.edu>

Tom Maycock wrote:
> It was a Hesiman-trophy caliber performance, albeit overshadowed a bit by the turnovers.

I agree, if by "overshadowed a bit" you mean "completely nullified."

I've no problem with someone winning an individual honor in a losing 
cause, but this wasn't just a case of one person playing well despite 
the team losing. Kafka's mistakes played a significant role in both 
losses, and if he doesn't acknowledge that and work to change things we 
might as well write off the season.

Not to pick on him -- he's certainly not the only one who needs to 
improve -- but I would hope all awards received thus far have been 
thrown in the proverbial trash can (a la Barnett before the 1996 season).


Eric West
e-west@northwestern.edu

From jonathanwhodges at gmail.com  Mon Sep 28 14:14:52 2009
From: jonathanwhodges at gmail.com (Jonathan Hodges)
Date: Mon Sep 28 14:15:23 2009
Subject: [NU Sports] At the end
In-Reply-To: <8CC0E84F7EBF284-5F2C-2191C@webmail-m028.sysops.aol.com>
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I think that most people including most of the members of the NU football
team and Coach Fitz as well would agree with you.  In fact, here's a
postgame quote (from the Trib):

"I don't know what records I'm breaking," Kafka said, "but I know we lost."

Also, we're basically already handing out the big awards (Heisman) to the
top QB (and sometimes RB) of the nation's top team (albeit before the
bowls).  Unless you want to just get rid of all awards (which will never
happen in today's media-run football world), it's either hand out some
awards to top performers on losing teams, or hand the awards to mediocre to
good players on teams that won (but likely won because of the other 10 guys
on the field and/or the defense, too).

In any case, the awards, like the polls, BCS, rest of the bowls, etc. are
great for starting conversations about college football.  It's what makes
CFB so much different than all of those pro leagues where all that matters
is making the playoffs and then getting lucky in a few games.  Or who you
should start on your fantasy team.

Jonathan

On Mon, Sep 28, 2009 at 1:59 PM, <cherron604@aol.com> wrote:

> I don't want NU to develop a culture where personal accomplishment ever
> overshadows group accomplishment, however.  The concept of football as a
> team game must never be compromised.
>
> I think of ESPN showing a big home run - hit by a guy whose team lost 6-1
> or something.  ESPN hails it as a great shot, but it isn't.
>
> It would be far better to recognize the second baseman, who moved a runner
> up with a deep fly ball after battling back from an 0-2 count.  Or a
> offensive lineman, whose key block early in the game helped produce a 6 yd
> run, and kept a drive alive.
>
> Would Vince Lombardi let a player keep an honor if his team had lost ?
>
> Chuck Herron   Tech '85
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Tom Maycock <tkmaycock@yahoo.com>
> To: cherron604@aol.com; Jonathan Hodges <jonathanwhodges@gmail.com>
> Cc: Jeff.Beamsley@covisint.com; nwu-sports@tssi.com
> Sent: Mon, Sep 28, 2009 1:34 pm
> Subject: Re: [NU Sports] At the end
>
>  > But, it's hard to argue against a guy that
> > completed 16 consecutive passes to start the game and set a
> > school record for completion percentage while throwing for
> > almost 400 yards and became the first Big Ten player in 5
> > years to record a TD passing, rushing, and receiving.
>
> Exactly. That performance was easily deserving of the POW recognition in my
> opinion.
>
> It was a Hesiman-trophy caliber performance, albeit overshadowed a bit by the
> turnovers. Even with the turnovers, he played well enought to win. It wasn't
> Kafka's fault half the defense was out with injuries and the other half didn't
> play well.
>
> Tom
>
>
>
From tkmaycock at yahoo.com  Mon Sep 28 14:39:31 2009
From: tkmaycock at yahoo.com (Tom Maycock)
Date: Mon Sep 28 14:39:51 2009
Subject: [NU Sports] At the end
In-Reply-To: <4AC10AA5.4040406@northwestern.edu>
Message-ID: <143545.1058.qm@web33108.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

> > It was a Hesiman-trophy caliber performance, albeit
> overshadowed a bit by the turnovers.
> 
> I agree, if by "overshadowed a bit" you mean "completely
> nullified."

No, I meant exactly what I said. 

Completely agree that Kafka needs to improve, and I'm pretty sure he'd sincerely and gladly trade the huge stats from the last two games for a win. 

Trust me, I wish as much as any other fan that Mike had avoided the handful of mistakes, and shown a bit more of a magic touch down the stretch. 

But I still think the Syracuse performance was bordering on the epic, even with the mistakes and the lack of a W. That is, of course, a matter of opinion.

Tom
 

From rstetson at capps-assoc.com  Mon Sep 28 15:51:14 2009
From: rstetson at capps-assoc.com (Roy Lamberton)
Date: Mon Sep 28 15:51:18 2009
Subject: [NU Sports] At the end
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When I used to hire sales reps, I didn't care how much or what they'd done
in the past, I was just looking for guys and gals who wanted to win.

They had to play fair, stay within the bounds of the law and ethics, but I
only wanted winners on my sales staffs.

Most football programs with men playing in the NFL also are winners as are
their players.

rsl

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-----Original Message-----
From: nwu-sports-bounces@tssi.com [mailto:nwu-sports-bounces@tssi.com] On
Behalf Of Tom Maycock
Sent: Monday, September 28, 2009 3:40 PM
To: nwu-sports@tssi.com
Subject: Re: [NU Sports] At the end

> > It was a Hesiman-trophy caliber performance, albeit
> overshadowed a bit by the turnovers.
> 
> I agree, if by "overshadowed a bit" you mean "completely
> nullified."

No, I meant exactly what I said. 

Completely agree that Kafka needs to improve, and I'm pretty sure he'd
sincerely and gladly trade the huge stats from the last two games for a win.


Trust me, I wish as much as any other fan that Mike had avoided the handful
of mistakes, and shown a bit more of a magic touch down the stretch. 

But I still think the Syracuse performance was bordering on the epic, even
with the mistakes and the lack of a W. That is, of course, a matter of
opinion.

Tom
 

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From NEONRye at aol.com  Tue Sep 29 10:46:46 2009
From: NEONRye at aol.com (NEONRye@aol.com)
Date: Tue Sep 29 10:47:23 2009
Subject: [NU Sports] John DeGroat
Message-ID: <d50.592b1e6a.37f385e6@aol.com>

Dear Fellow List Members,
 
I have some sad news to report.  Sandy Sacks, the "Godfather" of the  NU 
Club of New York, and a former Wildcat lineman (in the 1950's), as well as my  
good friend, and a longtime friend of John DeGroat, forwarded to me an  
email from John's son, Carl, with John's obituary (which I am "pasting"  
below).  I then wrote an email to Carl, expressing my sympathy and  informing him 
of John's importance to the List and of my feelings about John's  passing.  
Carl, in turn, graciously wrote back and provided details about  John's 
untimely loss, which I will also share with all of you (below).  
 
John was someone who one minute could infuriate me with a stray comment in  
an email, while then putting a smile on my face in the next paragraph of 
the  same email.  From time to time he would email me privately (in response 
to  one of my emails), suggesting (always in a friendly, mentoring kind of 
manner)  that I read such and such book or article, if I hadn't already done 
so.  He  will be sorely missed on this list--for his passionate devotion to 
NU and  Wildcat sports (except for baseball--which as all of know--he wanted 
dropped,  since he felt the University would never commit sufficient 
resources to the team  to permit it to compete effectively), as well as for his 
opinions on many  relevant issues, relevant and otherwise.  He was always a 
straight  shooter, and you knew where he stood--and that is a trait that I 
value very  much.   
 
Here's the Obituary:
 
 
John A. DeGroat?s  Obituary 
DeGroat, John Albert died September 25, 2009.  Born  December 18,  1931, he 
was the husband of Gail B. DeGroat.  He is survived by two sons, Carl of  
Purcellville, VA and Eric of Bromma, Sweden plus four grandsons, Axel, John  
(Jack), Nick and August and two granddaughters, Jackie and Elsa.  He was 
pre-deceased by his sister  Jacqueline DiPiero and his father and mother Dr. 
Albert DeGroat and Andre`  DeGroat, all from the Detroit area. A graduate of 
Northwestern University and the Wharton Graduate School, he spent his career 
in various  corporate financial positions including, investor relations with 
GTE and later  as a consultant in that field before retiring.  He served in 
the US Army?s Counter  Intelligence Corps during the Cold War from 
1955-1957, much of that time with  the 66th CIC Detachment in Berlin, Germany. 
He  thoroughly enjoyed traveling with his wife Gail as well as collecting 
antiques.  Pheasant hunting and clay target shooting with friends were 
favorite  pastimes.  He loved watching  Northwestern  University football and  
basketball much to the chagrin of Gail, a Penn State graduate. He was also a 
life long  fan of the Detroit Tigers and Detroit Lions. 
A memorial  service will be held later. Donations may be made to the 
Otterbein United  Methodist Church 647 Forge Road Carlisle, PA 17015 or to Hospice 
of Central  Pennsylvania, PO Box  266 Enola, PA 17025 or to the 
Northwestern University  Wild Cat Fund in Evanston,  Illinois. 
****************************************************************************
*** 
And here's the Email from Carl De Groat: 
The passing of my dad was actually a surprise.   He complained of a sore 
throat about a month ago and it just would not go  away.  It hurt so much, he 
really was not eating and as a result, probably  got a little weak.  About 
two weeks ago he fell reaching for the chain on  the ceiling fan and could 
not get himself back up.  Gail had to call an  ambulance and they took him to 
the hospital.  There were no injuries from  the fall, but he told them of 
his sore throat.  He was very weak, so they  admitted him to the hospital.  No 
one could figure out what was  wrong.  The doctors assumed it was just some 
virus.  His tonsils were  swollen but that was it. I visited on the 16th or 
17th and he was in a lot of  pain and could barely speak.  The doctors all 
assumed he would get  better.  Finally an ENT saw him and even he could not 
figure out what was  up.  He did a CT Scan of his neck and still saw 
nothing.  The doctor  ended up sedating my dad so he could go in and clean up my 
dad's throat to get a  better look.  Turned out he had cancer of the lymph 
nodes.  I was able  to see him on Thursday, but by then he could not speak.  I 
spent the night  with him at the hospital and fortunately was with him when 
died on Friday  afternoon. 
The hospice people were wonderful while my dad was  in the hospital.  They 
are the ones who instructed the doctors and nurses  on how to care for my 
dad and to make sure he was comfortable.  They  checked in on him everyday and 
answered all of Gail's questions.  The  hospice nurses explained what to 
expect as he slipped away.  My dad donated  his body to the Hershey Medical 
Center and the hospice folks even made all the  arrangements for the 
transportation of my dad's body. 
May he rest in peace, 
Paul Levinson 



From Hakirsch at aol.com  Tue Sep 29 11:10:26 2009
From: Hakirsch at aol.com (Hakirsch@aol.com)
Date: Tue Sep 29 11:10:37 2009
Subject: [NU Sports] John DeGroat
Message-ID: <cbe.4939124e.37f38b72@aol.com>

We will all miss his list contributions---He livened up the postings and I 
am sorry I never met him--Those of us at San Antonio last year were 
dissappointed that he apparantly didnt travel to the Alamo Bowl last year and 
therefore couldnt join us at our meet and greet fellow list servers--He probably 
was the contributor that everyone at the gathering asked most about

Harry
From Jeff.Beamsley at covisint.com  Tue Sep 29 11:51:51 2009
From: Jeff.Beamsley at covisint.com (Beamsley, Jeff)
Date: Tue Sep 29 11:52:47 2009
Subject: [NU Sports] John DeGroat
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Paul,

Thanks for the note.

I didn't often agree with John either and also enjoyed some lively "off
list" exchanges.  

I'm sure his kids knew what a passionate and feisty guy he was.  Well he
was the same way with all the folks he never met in person here on this
list.

I'm sorry that I didn't have the opportunity to meet him in person.  But
perhaps if I live a good life too, I may yet have that opportunity in
the next life.  The thought of engaging in an eternal daily tussle of
ideas could very well be his heaven and might be a good one for me too.


Jeff 


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On Behalf Of NEONRye@aol.com
Sent: Tuesday, September 29, 2009 11:47 AM
To: nwu-sports@romaine.tssi.com
Cc: ssacks71@optonline.net; carl_degroat@msn.com
Subject: [NU Sports] John DeGroat

Dear Fellow List Members,
 
I have some sad news to report.  Sandy Sacks, the "Godfather" of the  NU
Club of New York, and a former Wildcat lineman (in the 1950's), as well
as my good friend, and a longtime friend of John DeGroat, forwarded to
me an email from John's son, Carl, with John's obituary (which I am
"pasting"  
below).  I then wrote an email to Carl, expressing my sympathy and
informing him of John's importance to the List and of my feelings about
John's  passing.  
Carl, in turn, graciously wrote back and provided details about  John's
untimely loss, which I will also share with all of you (below).  
 
John was someone who one minute could infuriate me with a stray comment
in an email, while then putting a smile on my face in the next paragraph
of the  same email.  From time to time he would email me privately (in
response to  one of my emails), suggesting (always in a friendly,
mentoring kind of
manner)  that I read such and such book or article, if I hadn't already
done so.  He  will be sorely missed on this list--for his passionate
devotion to NU and  Wildcat sports (except for baseball--which as all of
know--he wanted dropped,  since he felt the University would never
commit sufficient resources to the team  to permit it to compete
effectively), as well as for his opinions on many  relevant issues,
relevant and otherwise.  He was always a straight  shooter, and you knew
where he stood--and that is a trait that I 
value very  much.   
 
Here's the Obituary:
 
 
John A. DeGroat's  Obituary
DeGroat, John Albert died September 25, 2009.  Born  December 18,  1931,
he was the husband of Gail B. DeGroat.  He is survived by two sons, Carl
of Purcellville, VA and Eric of Bromma, Sweden plus four grandsons,
Axel, John (Jack), Nick and August and two granddaughters, Jackie and
Elsa.  He was pre-deceased by his sister  Jacqueline DiPiero and his
father and mother Dr. 
Albert DeGroat and Andre`  DeGroat, all from the Detroit area. A
graduate of Northwestern University and the Wharton Graduate School, he
spent his career in various  corporate financial positions including,
investor relations with GTE and later  as a consultant in that field
before retiring.  He served in the US Army's Counter  Intelligence Corps
during the Cold War from 1955-1957, much of that time with  the 66th CIC
Detachment in Berlin, Germany. 
He  thoroughly enjoyed traveling with his wife Gail as well as
collecting antiques.  Pheasant hunting and clay target shooting with
friends were favorite  pastimes.  He loved watching  Northwestern
University football and basketball much to the chagrin of Gail, a Penn
State graduate. He was also a life long  fan of the Detroit Tigers and
Detroit Lions. 
A memorial  service will be held later. Donations may be made to the
Otterbein United  Methodist Church 647 Forge Road Carlisle, PA 17015 or
to Hospice of Central  Pennsylvania, PO Box  266 Enola, PA 17025 or to
the Northwestern University  Wild Cat Fund in Evanston,  Illinois. 
************************************************************************
****
***
And here's the Email from Carl De Groat: 
The passing of my dad was actually a surprise.   He complained of a sore

throat about a month ago and it just would not go  away.  It hurt so
much, he really was not eating and as a result, probably  got a little
weak.  About two weeks ago he fell reaching for the chain on  the
ceiling fan and could not get himself back up.  Gail had to call an
ambulance and they took him to the hospital.  There were no injuries
from  the fall, but he told them of his sore throat.  He was very weak,
so they  admitted him to the hospital.  No one could figure out what was
wrong.  The doctors assumed it was just some virus.  His tonsils were
swollen but that was it. I visited on the 16th or 17th and he was in a
lot of  pain and could barely speak.  The doctors all assumed he would
get  better.  Finally an ENT saw him and even he could not figure out
what was  up.  He did a CT Scan of his neck and still saw nothing.  The
doctor  ended up sedating my dad so he could go in and clean up my dad's
throat to get a  better look.  Turned out he had cancer of the lymph
nodes.  I was able  to see him on Thursday, but by then he could not
speak.  I spent the night  with him at the hospital and fortunately was
with him when died on Friday  afternoon. 
The hospice people were wonderful while my dad was  in the hospital.
They are the ones who instructed the doctors and nurses  on how to care
for my dad and to make sure he was comfortable.  They  checked in on him
everyday and answered all of Gail's questions.  The  hospice nurses
explained what to expect as he slipped away.  My dad donated  his body
to the Hershey Medical Center and the hospice folks even made all the
arrangements for the transportation of my dad's body. 
May he rest in peace,
Paul Levinson 



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From NEONRye at aol.com  Tue Sep 29 11:54:20 2009
From: NEONRye at aol.com (NEONRye@aol.com)
Date: Tue Sep 29 11:54:54 2009
Subject: [NU Sports] John DeGroat
Message-ID: <d12.2c8a0c6d.37f395bc@aol.com>

I am sorry that he won't be able to make it to the game at "Happy Valley"  
next Fall, since I believe he lived in or near Carlisle, PA--which isn't 
that  far from Penn State.  I intend to go to that game, and it would have 
given  me the opportunity to meet, and greet, John.  
 
Paul Levinson
From NEONRye at aol.com  Tue Sep 29 11:57:08 2009
From: NEONRye at aol.com (NEONRye@aol.com)
Date: Tue Sep 29 11:57:46 2009
Subject: [NU Sports] John DeGroat
Message-ID: <c34.60c23139.37f39664@aol.com>

Actually, his son, Carl, also included in his email to me the following  
sentence (in response to my statements regarding John's status on the list),  
which speaks volumes about John's penchant for taking a stand on issues,  
regardless of whether his position might be a popular one:
 
"Yes, if you met my dad it did not take too long to figure out where he  
stood on an issue."
 
Paul
From ivars at radioskonto.lv  Tue Sep 29 13:34:37 2009
From: ivars at radioskonto.lv (Ivars Embrekts)
Date: Tue Sep 29 13:34:48 2009
Subject: [NU Sports] John DeGroat
In-Reply-To: <c34.60c23139.37f39664@aol.com>
References: <c34.60c23139.37f39664@aol.com>
Message-ID: <4AC2533D.9060902@radioskonto.lv>

I lurk more than I post here but I have to chime in to remember John.

I was very saddened to read about his passing. He certainly was a feisty 
poster on this list, but people like that make the list (and life) more 
interesting and fun. I also admire people who take a stand and stick 
with it come heck or high water and no matter what "everyone" thinks. 
The world could use more people like that.

We exchanged a few emails off the board on some occasions and he seemed 
like a very passionate and good-hearted fan who really loved his Cats.

I am saddened that I never had the chance to meet him fact to face but I 
am glad I at least got to "know" him (for lack of a better term) in this 
venue.

May he rest in peace.

I.E.


NEONRye@aol.com wrote:
> Actually, his son, Carl, also included in his email to me the following  
> sentence (in response to my statements regarding John's status on the list),  
> which speaks volumes about John's penchant for taking a stand on issues,  
> regardless of whether his position might be a popular one:
>  
> "Yes, if you met my dad it did not take too long to figure out where he  
> stood on an issue."
>  
> Paul
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>
>
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From sjtruog at yahoo.com  Wed Sep 30 01:16:56 2009
From: sjtruog at yahoo.com (SjT (Stephen J. Truog))
Date: Wed Sep 30 01:17:06 2009
Subject: [NU Sports] PIGSKIN PICKS - Week 5
Message-ID: <879197.16840.qm@web52902.mail.re2.yahoo.com>

Tough game for the Cats to start the Big Ten slate ? two weeks in a row with the lead going into the fourth and a final drive to win, but a turnover each time doomed us. Hopefully we can get off the slide and not ?pull a Sparty.?

Things are going much better in the pros, where the Saints found a way to make me both furious (I have Brees in all fantasy leagues), and thrilled (a running game and defense!) at the same time. Just as long as they find a way to beat those two teams from New York in the next two games. Ugh ? there?s a tall order.

No Thursday game again this week (Colorado and West Virginia just ain?t who they used to be!), so picks due by kickoff Saturday. And for those of you playing the pro version, don?t forget to get those picks in!

PIGSKIN PICKS ? WEEK 5
======================
Name: 

BIG TEN
-------
GAME 1: Penn State @ Illinois
WINNER: 

GAME 2: Ohio State @ Indiana
WINNER: 

GAME 3: Arkansas State @ Iowa
WINNER: 

GAME 4: Michigan @ Michigan State
WINNER: 

GAME 5: Wisconsin @ Minnesota
WINNER: 

NATIONAL
--------
GAME 6: Oklahoma @ Miami (FL)
WINNER: 

GAME 7: Southern Cal @ California
WINNER: 

GAME 8: Louisiana State @ Georgia
WINNER: 

GAME 9: Auburn @ Tennessee
WINNER: 

GAME 10: Washington @ Notre Dame
WINNER: 

MY PICKS
========
* PENN STATE 30, Illinois 10 ? The Lions had a great first quarter last week and a terrible final three ? but that was Iowa. They play defense and play well as a team ? two things the Illini do not do well.

* OHIO STATE 35, Indiana 3 ? After putting up a tough fight against Michigan, the Hoosiers get crushed under the lights as OSU?s defense is on a mission this year.

* IOWA 42, Arkansas State 10 ? The Hawkeyes won?t have a letdown, will they?

* MICHIGAN 48, Michigan State 45 ? Something tells me this one will be one of those wild scorefests, as Sparty is literally fighting for their postseason lives after a rough three-game stretch ? but the Spartans don?t have Forcier.

* MINNESOTA 28, Wisconsin 23 ? Another great rivalry game for the Axe ? and on the same weekend as Packers-Vikings?!?! That?s scheduling GENIUS! Should be a fun weekend in the Twin Cities for these border ?buddies? ? but the Gophers are on a physical streak and ready to send Bucky back to earth after their charmed start.

* OKLAHOMA 37, Miami 27 ? Tough call here as a lot depends on whether Bradford?s back or not. Still, the Sooners should have just enough offense to outscore the Canes.

* USC 24, California 17 ? The Bears may have been looking ahead last week, but they still laid a colossal egg at Oregon ? SC had their hiccup and play well for games under the lights, so they put away the Bears yet again.

* LSU 42, Georgia 38 ? Big danger here of the Mad Hatter looking ahead to St. Urban?s Sanctimonious School of the Insufferables ? and no one in the SEC seems to play defense anymore, so it should be a fun shootout, but still can?t quite pull the trigger on the upset.

* TENNESSEE 33, Auburn 30 ? Lane Kiffin is the perfect coach for the SEC ? he won?t shut up, he?s mostly full of crap and every once and awhile he just gets lucky ? like here.

* WASHINGTON 45, Notre Dame 35 ? Speaking of not playing defense, maybe Charlie Weis should reunite with Romeo Cornell? The Irish barely survived shootouts with Purdoooo and MSU but drop this home game because they just can?t corral Jake Locker. Plus, if UDub is the new SC, they just had their hiccup and should rebound now to save us from a B(C)S bid for the Irish and two weeks of nonstop yapping about Notre Dame being ?back? before they get crushed by SC again.

And off the board ?

* NORTHWESTERN 34, Purdue 29 ? Two teams that have been close in recent weeks but just haven?t been able to close the deal. Hopefully it?s the Cats who put it together in the fourth quarter this time (maybe we can convince Kafka that it?s still the third quarter because he?s having a great season aside from the final two minutes!) ? or maybe someone will play some defense??? Nah ? Cats outscore ?em (hopefully).

Have a great weekend and get those picks in by kickoff!

GO CATS!!!
GEAUX SAINTS!!!
-SjT

* * * * * * * * *
STEPHEN J. TRUOG
sjtruog@yahoo.com
GO CATS!!!


      

From sjtruog at yahoo.com  Wed Sep 30 01:23:18 2009
From: sjtruog at yahoo.com (SjT (Stephen J. Truog))
Date: Wed Sep 30 01:23:26 2009
Subject: [NU Sports] PIGSKIN PICKS - Standings 'n' Polls
Message-ID: <38889.32478.qm@web52905.mail.re2.yahoo.com>

The good news is that fall break is only a few days away, so I should have standings next week!

The better news is that I do have new rankings to tide you over!:)

SJT RANKINGS 2009-10 SEASON

LW TW SjTOP 25
--------------
01 01 FLORIDA (4-0) ? Big game at LSU next, but Tebow a big ???
02 02 TEXAS (4-0) ? Creaming the cupcakes ? play somebody!
04 03 LSU (4-0) ? Winning close games so far, but tests coming
05 04 ALABAMA (4-0) ? Rolling along, but still not sold on their O
07 05 BOISE STATE (4-0) ? May be only unbeaten left in a month
08 06 SOUTHERN CAL (3-1) ? Getting lots of help to sneak back up
09 07 OHIO STATE (3-1) ? Defense has been impressive this year
11 08 OKLAHOMA (2-1) ? Like SC, moving up fast after early loss
13 09 VIRGINIA TECH (3-1) ? Impressive win to shut up Canes
14 10 OKLAHOMA STATE (3-1) ? Also sneaking back into the hunt
15 11 GEORGIA (3-1) ? Lucked out a win against ASU
16 12 MICHIGAN (4-0) ? Survived close call, big Sparty game next
18 13 CINCINNATI (4-0) ? Big wins by Cats last week ?
22 14 SOUTH FLORIDA (4-0) ? ? and Bulls gives Big East big hopes
23 15 IOWA (4-0) ? Ferentz just has JoePa?s number
03 16 PENN STATE (3-1) ? Great start, but then fell apart
17 17 TCU (4-0) ? Nice win, but still a long way from BCS buster
NR 18 OREGON (3-1) ? Have rebounded from Boise loss impressively
19 19 KANSAS (4-0) ? Survived a close call with Eagles
06 20 CALIFORNIA (3-1) ? A loss would be OK, but a blowout? Ugh!
10 21 MIAMI (2-1) ? Ditto ? can?t talk all week and then lose big
NR 22 SOUTH CAROLINA (3-1) ? One shootout away from 4-0
12 23 MISSISSIPPI (3-1) ? At least I was right about them!
24 24 UCLA (3-0) ? Had the week off to prepare for wild Pac 10
25 25 HOUSTON (3-0) ? Lucked out against Tech, but still 3-0

DROPPED OUT: (20) Florida State, (21) BYU
ON THE VERGE: Auburn, Minnesota, Nebraska

LW TW NFC RANKS
---------------
01 01 NEW YORK (3-0) ? Have made it look easy so far
03 02 NEW ORLEANS (3-0) ? Nice to see ?em win when O struggles
04 03 MINNESOTA (3-0) ? Favre came through in a dome for once
06 04 PHILADELPHIA (2-1) ? Will be dangerous when healthy
05 05 SAN FRANCISCO (2-1) ? Tough way to lose a game
02 06 ATLANTA (2-1) ? Guess Matt Ryan is human after all!

DROPPED OUT: None
ON THE VERGE: Chicago, Dallas, Green Bay

LW TW AFC RANKS
---------------
01 01 BALTIMORE (3-0) ? Winning, but not looking all that good
02 02 NEW YORK (3-0) ? Winning, and looking better each week
04 03 INDIANAPOLIS (3-0) ? Getting more comfortable every week
NR 04 NEW ENGLAND (2-1) ? They?re (almost) baaaaack
06 05 DENVER (3-0) ? The worst 3-0 team in history?
NR 06 CINCINNATI (2-1) ? Who dey? A miracle away from 3-0?!?!

DROPPED OUT: (3) Pittsburgh, (5) Houston
ON THE VERGE: San Diego

GO CATS!!!
GEAUX SAINTS!!!
-SjT

* * * * * * * * *
STEPHEN J. TRUOG
sjtruog@yahoo.com
GO CATS!!!


      

From tkmaycock at yahoo.com  Wed Sep 30 09:45:43 2009
From: tkmaycock at yahoo.com (Tom Maycock)
Date: Wed Sep 30 09:45:51 2009
Subject: [NU Sports] John DeGroat
In-Reply-To: <c34.60c23139.37f39664@aol.com>
Message-ID: <371940.95806.qm@web33103.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

Sorry to hear of John's passing. I too regret that we won't have a chance to meet in person. RIP John.

Tom

From mlinhardt at netzero.com  Wed Sep 30 11:31:15 2009
From: mlinhardt at netzero.com (mlinhardt@netzero.com)
Date: Wed Sep 30 11:35:40 2009
Subject: [NU Sports] John DeGroat
Message-ID: <20090930.113115.1474.0@webmail11.dca.untd.com>

I keep thinking that Paul Stevens lost his biggest fan ;-)

Everytime I saw his name on the post I eagerly awaited the response posts.

"Passion rebuilds the world for the youth. It makes all things alive and significant."
- Ralph Waldo Emerson 

My sympathies go out to his family.  They lost a very passionate man.

Below our Maureen's thoughts.

---------- Original Message ----------
From: "Maureen Linhardt" <Maureen.Linhardt@plexus.com>

While I didn't always agree with what John said and while some of what
he said infuriated and angered me from time to time, I am saddened by
his passing.  We didn't even get a chance as a group to say goodbye nor
to actually meet F2F.  It seems as if he had a full life beyond his
passion for NU and NU sports reading his obituary and his son's comment
about knowing where John stood on any issue was SO true....

His contributions to the NU Sports List community will be missed,
especially since they sparked so many discussions and debates.  Here's
hoping the FB team wins this week for John.

Go Cats



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From dale.kipp at matweb.com  Wed Sep 30 12:21:37 2009
From: dale.kipp at matweb.com (Dale Kipp)
Date: Wed Sep 30 12:22:04 2009
Subject: [NU Sports] Inauguration of Morton Schapiro
In-Reply-To: <20090930.113115.1474.0@webmail11.dca.untd.com>
References: <20090930.113115.1474.0@webmail11.dca.untd.com>
Message-ID: <1C9342CE9AB3214A86EE7BC205D0AA7B392E7B@GALAXY.ACI.local>

Off topic of sports, but the inauguration of Morton Schapiro as NU
president takes place next Friday.  I will coincidentally be in Evanston
that day and was wondering if anyone on the list has special insight
into the activities surrounding the inauguration.
http://www.northwestern.edu/inauguration/newsrelease.html


From wildelk2 at aol.com  Wed Sep 30 21:08:30 2009
From: wildelk2 at aol.com (wildelk2@aol.com)
Date: Wed Sep 30 21:09:09 2009
Subject: [NU Sports] John DeGroat
In-Reply-To: <371940.95806.qm@web33103.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <8CC10533476979D-1190-13E69@webmail-d046.sysops.aol.com>


?? List Gang,?? I haven't been on-line since last week, so suffice to say it was a punch in the stomach when I heard of John's passing.? I'm sorry I never met him, but being from Central Pa. I always thought that sometime I'd run into him.? My brother has been treated for lymph node cancer once, was in remission, but now is fighting it again. He's in the Navy and is in treatment in San Diego.? 

?? He's a huge football fan; Temple and Eagles (a TU grad).? Get this:? I have an old H.S. buddy who arranges public speakers with big events.? He set me up to meet Jerome Bettis in Hershey 2 weeks ago; I asked Jerome to call my brother; he eagerly accepted, and spoke with Tony for 3-4 minutes about football, this and that.? Jerome is awesome!? I can't hate Notre dame after that day.

?? More about our woebegon' defense later.?????? Eric


-----Original Message-----
From: Tom Maycock <tkmaycock@yahoo.com>
To: nwu-sports@romaine.tssi.com
Sent: Wed, Sep 30, 2009 10:45 am
Subject: Re: [NU Sports] John DeGroat




Sorry to hear of John's passing. I too regret that we won't have a chance to 
meet in person. RIP John.

Tom

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From rstetson at capps-assoc.com  Wed Sep 30 22:52:36 2009
From: rstetson at capps-assoc.com (Roy Lamberton)
Date: Wed Sep 30 22:52:32 2009
Subject: [NU Sports] John DeGroat
In-Reply-To: <d50.592b1e6a.37f385e6@aol.com>
References: <d50.592b1e6a.37f385e6@aol.com>
Message-ID: <000001ca424a$9d2cea20$d786be60$@com>

A sad day for all we Wildcat Fans...

John DeGroat was one of the "regulars" on this list (and maybe some others) and always rose to the defense of the kids who represent us on all of the fields of the Big 10.

He'll be missed. 

My condolences to all his family and as always we look forward to meeting again.

rsl

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-----Original Message-----
From: nwu-sports-bounces@tssi.com [mailto:nwu-sports-bounces@tssi.com] On Behalf Of NEONRye@aol.com
Sent: Tuesday, September 29, 2009 11:47 AM
To: nwu-sports@romaine.tssi.com
Cc: ssacks71@optonline.net; carl_degroat@msn.com
Subject: [NU Sports] John DeGroat

Dear Fellow List Members,
 
I have some sad news to report.  Sandy Sacks, the "Godfather" of the  NU 
Club of New York, and a former Wildcat lineman (in the 1950's), as well as my  
good friend, and a longtime friend of John DeGroat, forwarded to me an  
email from John's son, Carl, with John's obituary (which I am "pasting"  
below).  I then wrote an email to Carl, expressing my sympathy and  informing him 
of John's importance to the List and of my feelings about John's  passing.  
Carl, in turn, graciously wrote back and provided details about  John's 
untimely loss, which I will also share with all of you (below).  
 
John was someone who one minute could infuriate me with a stray comment in  
an email, while then putting a smile on my face in the next paragraph of 
the  same email.  From time to time he would email me privately (in response 
to  one of my emails), suggesting (always in a friendly, mentoring kind of 
manner)  that I read such and such book or article, if I hadn't already done 
so.  He  will be sorely missed on this list--for his passionate devotion to 
NU and  Wildcat sports (except for baseball--which as all of know--he wanted 
dropped,  since he felt the University would never commit sufficient 
resources to the team  to permit it to compete effectively), as well as for his 
opinions on many  relevant issues, relevant and otherwise.  He was always a 
straight  shooter, and you knew where he stood--and that is a trait that I 
value very  much.   
 
Here's the Obituary:
 
 
John A. DeGroat?s  Obituary 
DeGroat, John Albert died September 25, 2009.  Born  December 18,  1931, he 
was the husband of Gail B. DeGroat.  He is survived by two sons, Carl of  
Purcellville, VA and Eric of Bromma, Sweden plus four grandsons, Axel, John  
(Jack), Nick and August and two granddaughters, Jackie and Elsa.  He was 
pre-deceased by his sister  Jacqueline DiPiero and his father and mother Dr. 
Albert DeGroat and Andre`  DeGroat, all from the Detroit area. A graduate of 
Northwestern University and the Wharton Graduate School, he spent his career 
in various  corporate financial positions including, investor relations with 
GTE and later  as a consultant in that field before retiring.  He served in 
the US Army?s Counter  Intelligence Corps during the Cold War from 
1955-1957, much of that time with  the 66th CIC Detachment in Berlin, Germany. 
He  thoroughly enjoyed traveling with his wife Gail as well as collecting 
antiques.  Pheasant hunting and clay target shooting with friends were 
favorite  pastimes.  He loved watching  Northwestern  University football and  
basketball much to the chagrin of Gail, a Penn State graduate. He was also a 
life long  fan of the Detroit Tigers and Detroit Lions. 
A memorial  service will be held later. Donations may be made to the 
Otterbein United  Methodist Church 647 Forge Road Carlisle, PA 17015 or to Hospice 
of Central  Pennsylvania, PO Box  266 Enola, PA 17025 or to the 
Northwestern University  Wild Cat Fund in Evanston,  Illinois. 
****************************************************************************
*** 
And here's the Email from Carl De Groat: 
The passing of my dad was actually a surprise.   He complained of a sore 
throat about a month ago and it just would not go  away.  It hurt so much, he 
really was not eating and as a result, probably  got a little weak.  About 
two weeks ago he fell reaching for the chain on  the ceiling fan and could 
not get himself back up.  Gail had to call an  ambulance and they took him to 
the hospital.  There were no injuries from  the fall, but he told them of 
his sore throat.  He was very weak, so they  admitted him to the hospital.  No 
one could figure out what was  wrong.  The doctors assumed it was just some 
virus.  His tonsils were  swollen but that was it. I visited on the 16th or 
17th and he was in a lot of  pain and could barely speak.  The doctors all 
assumed he would get  better.  Finally an ENT saw him and even he could not 
figure out what was  up.  He did a CT Scan of his neck and still saw 
nothing.  The doctor  ended up sedating my dad so he could go in and clean up my 
dad's throat to get a  better look.  Turned out he had cancer of the lymph 
nodes.  I was able  to see him on Thursday, but by then he could not speak.  I 
spent the night  with him at the hospital and fortunately was with him when 
died on Friday  afternoon. 
The hospice people were wonderful while my dad was  in the hospital.  They 
are the ones who instructed the doctors and nurses  on how to care for my 
dad and to make sure he was comfortable.  They  checked in on him everyday and 
answered all of Gail's questions.  The  hospice nurses explained what to 
expect as he slipped away.  My dad donated  his body to the Hershey Medical 
Center and the hospice folks even made all the  arrangements for the 
transportation of my dad's body. 
May he rest in peace, 
Paul Levinson 



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