[NU Sports] Penn State and Bowl hopes
Brian H. Winkler
Winkler_Brian_H at cat.com
Wed Oct 28 10:46:22 CDT 2009
Dennis brings up an interesting point about injuries being up all around.
With teams playing 12 games now, the "bye week" that occurred during the
Big ten season given 11 teams is being filled with a non-conference foe.
Even the NFL has bye weeks which allow nagging injuries to heal and
provide a break. Maybe NU should considering building in a bye week mid
season in future scheduling given we can now go later into the Fall.
"Dennis W. Brandt" <tbng at comcast.net>
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Wel-l-l-l, ya might wanna look at some of those weak teams you're
comparin' our schedule to. Notre Dame isn't a pushover, much as we wish
they were. Navy and their triple option is always a challenge as Ohio
State learned and nearly lost. Southern Cal? 'Nuff said about them. Cal
and Missouri are no milquetoasts, and Cincinnati and Oregon are ranked in
the top ten. And ask Michigan State about Central Michigan.
And on an unrelated note, anyone catch Fitz's comments about injuries in
the post-game press conference. Injuries are up all around, he said, and
it's because teams are playing a twelve-game schedule with only 85
players. Was he lobbying for fewer games or larger rosters?
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From: cherron604 at aol.com
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Sent: Tuesday, October 27, 2009 2:28 PM
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I agree with Dennis that we have to do better. I am afraid, however
that the era of the tough non-conf game is gone. As examples, here are
the three teams Dennis mentioned:
Penn State - Akron, Syracuse, Temple, Eastern Illinois
Michigan - Western Michigan, Notre Dame, Eastern Michigan, Delaware
State
Ohio State - Navy, Southern Cal, Toledo, New Mexico State
And the rest of our mates:
Iowa - Northern Iowa, Iowa State, Arizona, Arkansas St
Wisconsin - Northern Illinois, Fresno St, Wofford, Hawaii
Michigan State - Montana St, Central Michigan, Notre Dame, Western
Michigan
Minnesota - Syracuse, Air Force, Cal, South Dakota St
Purdue - Toledo, Oregon, Northern Illinois, Notre Dame
Indiana - Eastern Kentucky, Western Michigan, Akron, Virginia
Illinois - Missouri, Illinois St, Cincinnati, Fresno St
And I believe that we have to play a non-conference schedule that is
equivalent to those of our conference mates, and it would seem that we do.
Everybody is playing the
a) 'win 4 n-c, go 6-2 in conference and make a big bowl' game or
b) 'win 4 n-c, go 2-6 in conference and just make a bowl' game, so we
have to as well.
Chuck Herron Tech '85
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From: Dennis W. Brandt <tbng at comcast.net>
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<Fitz is succeeding in making us a 'Bowl caliber' team every year, that
gets us recognition from fans, media and prospective recruits.
We may become "bowl-eligible" principally because we schedule wimp
pre-season opponents like Towson, Eastern Michigan, Miami of Ohio, and
Syracuse. Even then, only once in the last fifteen years have we beaten
all four of our wimp non-conference opponents and often struggle even when
we do win. Quite a contrast from my senior year ('67) when we played
number-one ranked Miami (and won) and highly ranked Missouri, and the year
following we took on O. J. Simpson's USC team. A weak pre-season schedule
doesn't make NU unusual, but it doesn't make us a quality program either.
What we clearly have accomplished is not being the doormat we were in the
past, but that is not good enough anymore. I want a legitimate shot at
beating Penn State, Michigan, and especially Ohio State every season, and
I want to see some pre-season games against quality teams and have a good
chance at winning those, too. Anything less is a loser's mentality.
Recruiting better talent is the only way that can happen. It may take
another five to ten seasons for Fitz to pull it off, but once the stream
starts flowing, it will tend to keep flowing.
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