[NU Sports] Penn State and Bowl hopes

Brian H. Winkler Winkler_Brian_H at cat.com
Wed Oct 28 10:46:22 CDT 2009


Dennis brings up an interesting point about injuries being up all around. 
With  teams playing 12 games now, the "bye week" that occurred during the 
Big ten season given 11 teams is being filled with a non-conference foe. 
Even the NFL has bye weeks which allow nagging injuries to heal and 
provide a break.  Maybe NU should considering building in a bye week mid 
season in future scheduling given we can now go later into the Fall.





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Wel-l-l-l, ya might wanna look at some of those weak teams you're 
comparin' our schedule to.  Notre Dame isn't a pushover, much as we wish 
they were.  Navy and their triple option is always a challenge as Ohio 
State learned and nearly lost.  Southern Cal?  'Nuff said about them.  Cal 
and Missouri are no milquetoasts, and Cincinnati and Oregon are ranked in 
the top ten.  And ask Michigan State about Central Michigan.

And on an unrelated note, anyone catch Fitz's comments about injuries in 
the post-game press conference.  Injuries are up all around, he said, and 
it's because teams are playing a twelve-game schedule with only 85 
players.  Was he lobbying for fewer games or larger rosters?
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  I agree with Dennis that we have to do better.  I am afraid, however 
that the era of the tough non-conf game is gone.  As examples, here are 
the three teams Dennis mentioned:

  Penn State - Akron, Syracuse, Temple, Eastern Illinois
  Michigan - Western Michigan, Notre Dame, Eastern Michigan, Delaware 
State
  Ohio State - Navy, Southern Cal, Toledo, New Mexico State

  And the rest of our mates:

  Iowa - Northern Iowa, Iowa State, Arizona, Arkansas St
  Wisconsin - Northern Illinois, Fresno St, Wofford, Hawaii
  Michigan State - Montana St, Central Michigan, Notre Dame, Western 
Michigan

  Minnesota - Syracuse, Air Force, Cal, South Dakota St
  Purdue - Toledo, Oregon, Northern Illinois, Notre Dame
  Indiana - Eastern Kentucky, Western Michigan, Akron, Virginia
  Illinois - Missouri, Illinois St, Cincinnati, Fresno St

  And I believe that we have to play a non-conference schedule that is 
equivalent to those of our conference mates, and it would seem that we do.

  Everybody is playing the 
  a) 'win 4 n-c, go 6-2 in conference and make a big bowl' game or
  b) 'win 4 n-c, go 2-6 in conference and just make a bowl' game, so we 
have to as well.


  Chuck Herron   Tech '85


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  From: Dennis W. Brandt <tbng at comcast.net>
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  <Fitz is succeeding in making us a 'Bowl caliber' team every year, that 
gets us recognition from fans, media and prospective recruits. 
 
  We may become "bowl-eligible" principally because we schedule wimp 
pre-season opponents like Towson, Eastern Michigan, Miami of Ohio, and 
Syracuse. Even then, only once in the last fifteen years have we beaten 
all four of our wimp non-conference opponents and often struggle even when 
we do win. Quite a contrast from my senior year ('67) when we played 
number-one ranked Miami (and won) and highly ranked Missouri, and the year 
following we took on O. J. Simpson's USC team. A weak pre-season schedule 
doesn't make NU unusual, but it doesn't make us a quality program either. 
What we clearly have accomplished is not being the doormat we were in the 
past, but that is not good enough anymore. I want a legitimate shot at 
beating Penn State, Michigan, and especially Ohio State every season, and 
I want to see some pre-season games against quality teams and have a good 
chance at winning those, too. Anything less is a loser's mentality. 
Recruiting better talent is the only way that can happen. It may take 
another five to ten seasons for Fitz to pull it off, but once the stream 
starts flowing, it will tend to keep flowing. 
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