[NU Sports] Kicking (fwd)

Fri Oct 23 13:13:39 CDT 2009

Members of my family who remember those loooong drop kicks would second Chuck's information. 

One reason Thorpe and others could kick so far was that they did the kicking on a dead run as
they were heading towards the goal line. 

It was a pretty good way to get 3 points, especially as time ran out and you didn't really need
a TD to win.

rsl

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From: cherron604 at aol.com [mailto:cherron604 at aol.com] 
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Subject: Re: [NU Sports] Kicking (fwd)

To put Roy's skill in perspective, most sources claim that Wilbur 'Pete' Henry had a 45 yard
drop kick, then the NFL record, in a game vs Toledo in December of 1922.

I have seen some sources that claim the college record is 65 yards, by JP Ross of the Birmingham
AC in a game against Alabama in November of 1892.

There are anecdotal accounts of Jim Thorpe 'routinely' drop-kicking field goals of 50 yards, and
of long drop kicks by Paddy Driscoll, but not a lot of documentation.

Doug Flutie's recent drop kick for the Patriots was an extra point.  Flutie kicked from about
the 12 yard line.

Prior to Flutie, the last drop kick for points was Scooter McLean's conversion in the 1941 NFL
Championship game, helping the Bears beat the Giants 37-9.

Chuck Herron   Tech 85

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Subject: RE: [NU Sports] Kicking (fwd)

I used to be able to drop kick about 30 yds, but not far enough to make sense in 
a game. My Dad,
who is 90, could drop kick about 40 yards, with accuracy. It is not that 
difficult, altho the
good kickers used to do it on a dead run.

rsl

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From: Jonathan Hodges [mailto:jonathanwhodges at gmail.com <mailto:jonathanwhodges at gmail.com?> ] 
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Subject: Re: [NU Sports] Kicking (fwd)

Drop kicks, defined as "a kick by a player who drops the ball and kicks it as it 
touches the
ground" is still legal in college football and the NFL.  In fact, QB Doug 
Flutie's last play in
the NFL was converting a drop kick for an extra point for the Patriots a few 
years back.

I honestly haven't seen a drop kick in college football in my experience.  I 
assume it went of
of style mainly due to issues with its accuracy relative to a place kick as well 
as its
difficulty (it must be more difficult to time the kick so as to hit with your 
foot simultaneous
to when it hits the ground).

Jonathan

On Thu, Oct 22, 2009 at 10:11 AM, <AJWDBW at aol.com> wrote:

When I was a youngster (Just prior to the Civil War) we would, on
occasion, drop kick the ball for extra points. Whatever happened to  that?
Don Williams
C55

In a message dated 10/22/2009 8:21:27 A.M. Central Standard Time,

rstetson at capps-assoc.com writes:

My  observations on kicking these days is that they are really trying to
aim the  kicks but get in
trouble when they don't hit the ball properly. Place  kickers try to miss
certain guys on the

defense who are known for jumping  up for a tip. (I've seen several missed
FG's in the pros where
the kicker  was trying to avoid the pyramid setting up on the other side of
the  line)

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