[NU Sports] Asking the impossible

Beamsley, Jeff Jeff.Beamsley at covisint.com
Mon Mar 16 15:28:54 CDT 2009


Roy,

I wasn't looking for anyone else to blame at all.

Just providing some insight on why coaches get involved, because of the suggestion that coaches were somehow getting dragged into situations unwillingly.  We've both done a log of coaching and can appreciate the relationships that develop.

I agree that experience, good or bad, is always the best teacher and those who aren't allowed to experience the consequences failure often end up suffering some character issues.

As far as the rest of the post, I'll paraphrase Stephen - It's March - let's party.

Jeff



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From: Roy Lamberton [mailto:rstetson at capps-assoc.com] 
Sent: Monday, March 16, 2009 3:53 PM
To: Beamsley, Jeff; nwu-sports at tssi.com
Subject: RE: [NU Sports] Asking the impossible

Ahhh, spoken like one who wants to find someone other than the perp to blame....

The guys who rented the strippers were over 21 and living in a private residence. They invited a bunch of the buddies over for a party - the buddies just happened to be members of the Lacrosse team, a team they played on also.

One of the strippers turned out to be a well known (to the Durham police) head case. She picked the height of a hotly contested primary to file a complaint of rape, one of the charges where you are automatically guilty until proved innocent in today's society, against the guys in the house. She also played the "race" card since she was of African heritage, and the 20 athletes in the house were of Anglo-European descent.

The DA proceeded as if everyone in the house, all 20 or so, had been ready and able to successfully commit rape in less than 10 minutes, an event that would have set a new world record had it been videotaped for mass distribution as a porno film. They were reported to have all crowded into a small powder room to commit this act.

But because it was a primary time, and the DA needed something to set himself apart, he ignored the DNA evidence clearing everyone in the house of any sexual intercourse, much less rape and proceeded to destroy the reputations of the players.

Two of these kids had prior issues with law enforcement and were on probation - they wound up serving sentences unrelated to the event because they had been arrested - of the crime that never happened.

I'll ignore the idiotic rantings of the Marxist profs who claimed racism that didn't exist in a crime that never happened, etc. etc.

But the final result was the DA was removed from office, removed from the bar and was faced with jail time for ignoring evidence, and trying to cover up other evidence - which made me wonder why anyone would want to live in Durham, or go to Duke.

I'm sure that my middle son was involved in parties serving alcohol run by fellow members of the football team where he attended school - a good North Carolina Methodist (read we don't Drink) school. I never blamed the coaches of the team for his hangovers. I'm pretty sure he helped break up a few fights at these parties - they used to invite him to these affairs (as he told us) because he was considered a good/bad cop when things got tense between players.

As you guys may remember, I never blamed Randy Walker for player's problems
- if anything Randy went out of his way to rehab guys who got crosswise with the law. I don't blame any coach for things kids over 21 do, because it isn't my fault if my 21 year old, out of college, sons do something wrong.

It is called Personal Responsibility.

Div I athletes never had to sign an oath to behave. They took their lumps from the law when they broke it, and came out better citizens. Some screwed up so badly, they never recovered, but that was their fault, not the fault of their position or head coach.

As long as we're always looking for scapegoats, we will fail. 

You can't litigate morality and you can't legislate it either. When you try you just get a bunch of petty rules that people go out of their way to ignore. What do we have now, 80% use of seatbelts?

rsl

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So it becomes natural for the institution and law enforcement to engage the coaches because in many other situations that don't make it into the paper, the coaching staff has volunteered to be engaged.

Jeff



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