[NU Sports] Re: Holy Orange............
Joe Thiegs
thiegs at umn.edu
Fri Mar 13 13:45:34 CDT 2009
I was on the computer but tuned in at the beginning of the 4th OT after
noticing two Facebook status updates come across almost simultaneously about
the game to that point. I watched from there to the end and was glad I
did--pretty fun . . . for those who were watching and didn't have to play
that long, anyway.
On the Syracuse shot at the end of regulation, it looked awfully close on
the replays I saw, but I think I agree with the call to waive it off--I
couldn't see any separation between the ball and his hand when the clock hit
0.0. As one of the play-by-play or color commentators said later during the
overtimes, if he would have trimmed his fingernails that morning it would
have been good. Both teams battled hard the whole way, and the game
illustrated the importance of being able to hit free throws down the
stretch--both teams did a great job of converting from the charity
stripe--especially when your shots aren't falling (I couldn't believe all of
the point-blank misses on both sides). I'm happy with the way it turned out
too, since I really like Jim Boeheim from what I know of him, at least.
-Joe
-----Original Message-----
From: nwu-sports-bounces at tssi.com [mailto:nwu-sports-bounces at tssi.com] On
Behalf Of John Labbe
Sent: Friday, March 13, 2009 9:02 AM
To: nwu-sports at tssi.com
Subject: [NU Sports] Re: Holy Orange............
I also watched the end of regulation and then got sucked in and stayed up to
watch all the overtimes. It was unreal. Syracuse did lead at times during
regulation, but they never lead during any of the first five overtimes and
trailed by as many as 6 on at least two occasions, but they kept fighting
back to tie it up at the end of each overtime. Then Syracuse dominated the
sixth overtime and never trailed.
However, I thought the refs should have let the final shot at the end of
regulation stand. For those that missed it, the game was tied with 1.6
seconds to play and Syracuse was inbounding the ball under its own basket.
They made a long pass down the court, it was tipped by a UConn player, and a
Syracuse player put up a three in what appeared to be just an instant before
the buzzer. After review, the refs waived off the shot. To me, it wasn't
clear enough on the replay that the ball hadn't left the shooters hand when
the clock went to zero. Even on SportsCenter, where they had the benefit of
the studio and many replays, they didn't sound convinced. To me, they should
only overturn the call on the court if the replay is 100% conclusive.
On Friday, March 13, 2009, at 08:10AM, <hudhaifa3 at aim.com> wrote:
>Who else stayed up to watch one of the best games ever.
>Damn I am tired this morning........
>
>Hate to see someone lose that game.
>Even more unreal that the Cuse didn't lead the game until the 6th OT
>
>
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: hakirsch at aol.com
>To: John Labbe <johnl at mac.com>; nwu-sports-bounces at tssi.com; Tom Maycock
<tkmaycock at yahoo.com>
>Cc: nwu-sports at tssi.com
>Sent: Thu, 12 Mar 2009 10:49 pm
>Subject: Re: [NU Sports] Double possession
>
>
>
>I think we were on the road against OSU in 1983 when tied in OT with a few
>econds left and we had to forfeit a jump ball because of the possession
arrow.
>he Bucks got the ball and made the winning shot
> may have" mis-remembered" my facts so if anyone else remembers the game
fill
>s in
>arry ------Original Message------From: John LabbeSender:
nwu-sports-bounces at tssi.comTo:
>om MaycockCc: nwu-sports at tssi.comSent: Marr 12, 2009 6:42 PMSubject: Re:
[NU
>ports] Double possession
>'ve often wondered about this, too, but just assumed that whichever team
loses
>he initial jump ball gets the possession arrow first and then whoever the
>ossession arrow favors at the beginning of the second half gets the ball
to
>tart the half.
>he NCAA rule book provides the definitive answer:
>ule 6.1.2: The second half shall start with the team that controlled the
>lternating-possession arrow at the end of the first half given disposal of
the
>all at the divisionline opposite the scorers' table.
>ule 6.2.2: The team that does not obtain control of the initial jump 20ball
>hall start thealternating process when the next alternating-possession
>ituation occurs by beingawarded the ball at a designated spot nearest to
where
>he held ball occurred.
>See
http://www.ncaapublications.com/Uploads/PDF/Basketball_Rules_2008-09fb2fc956
-7592-4877-993e-dae20a6f90ed.pdf
>
>n Mar 12, 2009, at 8:11 PM, Tom Maycock wrote:
>>> No, Northwestern did not get possession in the first half.>> Minnesota
got
>he tip. Is the rule not whoever gets the>> opening tip the other team gets
>ossession in the second>> half? If it goes by the possession arrow, I
didn't
>now>> that.>> I think that whoever doesn't get the tip gets the possession
>rrow, > and then it alternates from there. Not 100% sure, but I believe >
>hat's correct.>> Tom>>_______________________________________________>
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