[NU Sports] CFB Postseason...Survey Says...

Brian H. Winkler Winkler_Brian_H at cat.com
Tue Jan 13 16:43:38 CST 2009


I forgot my worst grade at NU was a very painful "economic stats class." 

Though I still think of those who responded about half favor the current 
bowl system and the other half favor SOME FORM of a playoff. 

What's the saying, "you can always find a statistic to prove your point," 
unless you are my mother--in-law and it that case - she is always right.

Regards,

Brian Winkler




Clark Zahn <clzahn at mindspring.com> 
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01/13/2009 01:51 PM
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I certainly wasn't trying to "burn his butt".  I appreciated the effort of 
gathering the results.  I just didn't agree with the interpretation.

Clark Zahn

-----Original Message-----
>From: johnadeg at comcast.net
>Sent: Jan 13, 2009 9:07 AM
>To: Clark Zahn <clzahn at mindspring.com>, nwu-sports at tssi.com
>Subject: Re: [NU Sports] CFB Postseason...Survey Says...
>
>I think a lot of people on this list belong in the Cynics Hall of Fame. 
Someone tries to do something and they get their butts nailed.
>
>John DeGroat
> -------------- Original message ----------------------
>From: Clark Zahn <clzahn at mindspring.com>
>> I think you are spinning the results.  I would say that 76% are opposed 
to full 
>> playoffs.
>> 
>> Clark Zahn
>> 
>> 
>> >To put a little facts and data to the CFB post season debate on this 
list, 
>> >there were 25 responses to the survey. 
>> >
>> >Roughly half of you favor some form of playoffs, either a full playoff 
or 
>> >a hybrid (Plus One Playoff for Top 4 BCS seeds).   The other half 
>> >preferred to keep the current bowl system.  It was not an option but 
two 
>> >individuals would prefer to go back to the old traditional bowl system 

>> >(pre-BCS).
>> >
>> >
>> >The Final Results (25 responses)
>> >
>> > 52% = Current Bowl System (13 responses)
>> >
>> > 24% = Full Playoffs (6 responses)
>> >
>> > 24% = Hybrid -Current Bowls & Plus One Playoff for Top 4 BCS seeds (6 

>> >responses)
>> >
>> >These results reflect well the healthy debate on the list and the 
multiple 
>> >opinions on both sides of having a playoff or not.   They do dispute 
the 
>> >earlier claim that 75%+ of fans want to keep the current system. 
>> >
>> >My vote was for the Hybrid, I think it provides the best opportunity 
to 
>> >keep the spirit of the traditional bowl system, provides NU as a BCS 
>> >school an easier path to compete for a national title (which we will 
>> >achieve before I die), offers a short playoff to decide the national 
>> >title, and still leaves a subjective debate to the process 
(Determining 
>> >the Top 4 to compete for the national title) which I enjoy.
>> >
>> >If we had a few more thousand responses, I would have sent the survey 
>> >results to our elected officials for them to consider in setting our 
>> >country's priorities but we fell short.
>> >
>> >Regards,
>> >
>> >Brian Winkler
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >----- Original Message ----
>> >From: Brian H. Winkler <Winkler_Brian_H at cat.com>
>> >To: nwu-sports at tssi.com
>> >Sent: Thursday, January 8, 2009 9:11:16 AM
>> >Subject: [NU Sports] Bowl vs Playoff Survey - Very Scientific Sample 
Size 
>> >- Please Respond
>> >
>> >In the spirit of facts and data, I am curious what our list would 
favor 
>> >for the CFB post season.
>> >
>> >Please reply back directly to me and choose one of the three options 
>> >below.  I will compile the results.
>> >
>> >
>> >CFB Postseason Options:
>> >
>> >
>> >___  Current Bowl System
>> >
>> >___  Full Playoffs (Similar to I-AA)
>> >
>> >___  Hybrid (Current Bowls and Plus One Playoff for Top 4 BCS seeds)
>> >
>> >
>> >I realize there are other options but let's go with these to keep it 
>> >simple and they seem to be the ones most discussed.
>> >
>> >Let's find out where our group is.
>> >
>> >
>> >Brian Winkler, CAS '91
>> >
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