[NU Sports] B-C-MESS!!! B-C-MESS!!!

[johnadeg at comcast.net]

I guess that you have a point but I  wouldn't want to be the guy to justify the cost of putting the company name or logo on a stadium and then have to face the bloviating clowns on a House or Senate committee who want to strut in front of a TV camera.

John DeGroat. 
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From: "Roy Lamberton" <rstetson at capps-assoc.com>
> If I was a carpenter I'd be all worked up about the union "wasting" my money
> on marketing....
> 
> Sorry folks it works both ways - Citi and GM sell products to thekinds of
> people who watch and attend football games. Sponsoring a bowl is a form of
> marketing...
> 
> Unless we want the government to sponsor all these things - oh yes, that was
> tried in Italy around 0 BC.
> 
> rsl
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: nwu-sports-bounces at tssi.com [mailto:nwu-sports-bounces at tssi.com] On
> Behalf Of Beamsley, Jeff
> Sent: Monday, January 05, 2009 1:42 PM
> To: nwu-sports at tssi.com
> Subject: RE: [NU Sports] B-C-MESS!!! B-C-MESS!!!
> 
> I agree that the bowl "formula" seems to work in just about anywhere
> that you have an available stadium, some civic-minded people, available
> holiday hotel space, and some sponsorship.
> 
> The Motor City Bowl, for example, has been going strong for 10 years.
> So even though they have a cold weather location in a "third world" city
> and didn't have a BT team this year, they still drew over 40K.  They
> lost Chrysler as a sponsor and added the Carpenter's Union.  The group
> that runs it is headed up by George Perles and Ken Hoffman (both from
> MSU).  When asked this year about sponsorship, Perles said that they had
> other organizations lined up to step in if Ford and/or GM left.  
> 
> Jeff
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> From: nwu-sports-bounces at tssi.com [mailto:nwu-sports-bounces at tssi.com]
> On Behalf Of Eric West
> Sent: Monday, January 05, 2009 12:44 PM
> To: nwu-sports at tssi.com
> Subject: Re: [NU Sports] B-C-MESS!!! B-C-MESS!!!
> 
> People have been making predictions like this for years and years, and
> they have never come true. I remember being told in the 1990s that 18
> bowls were "too many" and that the number would go down soon for
> economic reasons, etc., etc. Guess what? Now there are almost twice as
> many.
> 
> Obviously there is a ceiling (and we must be getting close to it, since
> many bowls are forced to choose MAC or Sun Belt teams as at-large
> selections because those are the only eligible teams left), and the
> current economy may have an impact, but even that crisis is only "for
> now." Plenty of bowls have died over the years only to be replaced by
> two or three others. Other bowls lose the sponsorship of one corporation
> only to gain the sponsorship of another one. (Oh, and Citicorp and GM
> are primarily taking "heat" for things completely unrelated to their
> sponsorship choices, but that's a topic equally unrelated to this
> list...)
> 
> Getting back to the context of this discussion, if a minor bowl is
> financially viable, it will be viable no matter what the top 4 or 8 or
> 16 teams in the country are doing elsewhere. There's simply nothing in
> reality to suggest that a playoff would kill the minor bowls.
> 
> 
> Eric West
> e-west at northwestern.edu
> 
> 
> johnadeg at comcast.net wrote:
> > The so-called minor bowls are likely to die off as corporations cut
> back on their  spending.  Look at the heat that CitiCorp and GM are
> taking for their sports sponsorship.  Companies don't like unfavorable
> publicity so others will drop their sponsorships of sporting events
> rather than be criticized for spending on sports events..
> >
> > John DeGroat
> >   
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