[NU Sports] Keyshawn in RB HOF?

Sun Jan 4 10:39:48 CST 2009

I remember when Brent M was doing a game with Ira Parseghian and laughing about an NU score where we were getting blown out and laughing about it.  Ira asked him what was so funny since NU was his school.  That shut him up briefly.  That guy is a dolt and the fewer people who know he went to NU th better.  someone should take any reference to him out of future football media guides.  Both  Herbstreit who went to OSU Griese who went to Purdue show more class then Brent.

John DeGroat 

John DeGroat
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From: "Roy Lamberton" <rstetson at capps-assoc.com>
> Not to cast doubt on Mr. Johnson, but I wonder how much he's contributed to both 
> his Alma Mater's sports program, AND the Rose Committee over the years?
> 
> The ineligible tag only works if the game was played AFTER the start of spring 
> or winter classes, unless the coach chooses to pull a kid's eligibility prior to 
> those dates. 
> 
> Mr. Johnson was obviously a high draft pick going into that game. No coach of 
> any college (except NU, State Penn, Rice, SMU, Vandy, and maybe Duke) would 
> screw up a kid's chances to reflect well on their school on Sunday.
> 
> Someof our big line recruits point to Luis Castillo and Barry Cofield as reasons 
> they considered the Cats. The USC guys back then knew that Keyshawn was going to 
> be a good recruiting tool for more wide outs. They took the only course 
> possible, interpret the "rules" so Johnson could play.
> 
> Randy Walker was the only coach I can remember, who removed a kid from the bowl 
> team due to academics. Florida may have done the same thing a few years back.
> 
> In any case, I haven't seen any attempt to force the NCAA or Rose Committee to 
> change the outcome of that game, not that Brett (don't tell anyone I went to NU) 
> Mussberger would ever mention Johnson's academic status. He's too busy trying to 
> help Texas into the BCS title game every year.
> 
> It is too bad Brett didn't call the Alamo Bowl. I wonder if we'd have seen so 
> many pictures of Mom at the end of the game and it's too bad they couldn't find 
> any NU families on the sidelines - I know we have a few moms who are just as 
> animated....
> 
> rsl 
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: nwu-sports-bounces at tssi.com [mailto:nwu-sports-bounces at tssi.com] On Behalf 
> Of Beamsley, Jeff
> Sent: Saturday, January 03, 2009 11:21 AM
> To: nwu-sports at tssi.com
> Subject: [NU Sports] Keyshawn in RB HOF?
> 
> In the run up to the Rose Bowl, the announcers mentioned that Keyshawn Johnson 
> was recently inducted into the Rose Bowl Hall of Fame.  I seem to recall that he 
> was academically ineligible for that game, so how did he qualify for the Hall of 
> Fame?
> 
> Jeff
> 
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: nwu-sports-bounces at tssi.com <nwu-sports-bounces at tssi.com>
> To: sjtruog at yahoo.com <sjtruog at yahoo.com>
> Cc: NUSPORTS <nwu-sports at tssi.com>
> Sent: Sat Jan 03 00:43:27 2009
> Subject: Re: [NU Sports] B-C-MESS!!! B-C-MESS!!!
> 
> I am still a proponent of the bowl system with some slight modifications
> (i.e. Plus One) as a playoff system would further divide college football
> into "haves" (traditional powers, like OSU, USC, Texas, Florida, etc.) and
> "have nots" - year in and year out there would be 7 "popular" teams and one
> outsider who managed to sneak in (this year, Utah) and the playoffs would
> look like NFL minor league.  The bowls allow the opportunity to put some
> interesting matchups on the field and reward teams that are part of a 120
> team league with absolutely no schedule balance - something that no other
> major sport has.  Yes, NCAA basketball tourney works well, but they can also
> play 2 games/week - something impossible in football.  Oh, and for those who
> want to run a playoff in conjunction with a bowls - get ready for stadiums
> much emptier than they are now - the bowls that are not part of the playoff
> will be worth even less than they are now - and neutral site games for
> anything but the national championship will sell precious few tickets
> (Minnesota is scrambling to sell tickets for its first home NFL playoff game
> in 8 years).
> 
> I would favor a reduction in the number of bowls and upping the requirement
> back up to a winning record in addition to the Plus One, but I realize the
> likelihood of either happening is close to nil.  The fact is that for the
> Plus One or any playoff system to work, it would require the vote of ALL
> NCAA Div. I presidents, which means for it to fly the revenue sharing would
> have to be much more equal than it is now.  The BCS is essentially collusion
> amongst the football powers to stage what they can without adding additional
> games to the schedule and keeping most of the money in house (obviously
> Congress forced them to give non-BCS schools an easier "in" and distribute
> the money annually).  It will basically take something drastic to push the
> BCS conferences into a position to give up the cash that's on the table now
> - especially after ESPN forked over a ton more cash than FOX.
> 
> Jonathan
> 
> On Fri, Jan 2, 2009 at 10:40 PM, SjT (Stephen J. Truog)
> <sjtruog at yahoo.com>wrote:
> 
> > Back to football (yes, the interminable bowl season is still going on) ...
> >
> > Utah has just intercepted the Tide, sealing a win over mighty Alabama and
> > the untouchable SEC. All that speed and talent was ... on Utah tonight.
> >
> > They have dominated a team that was neck-in-neck with Florida just a month
> > ago in the "SEC title game for the ages."
> >
> > They are going to finish the season unbeaten. No one else will.
> >
> > So the question now goes to AP voters - how can you NOT rank Utah #1?
> >
> > As for the coaches and Harris/joke voters, how can you call your vote for
> > #1 a champion? Computers aren't the problem anymore with the BCS, the media
> > assistants who fill out the coaches poll and the made-up voters in the
> > Harris poll are.
> >
> > Especially if Florida wins the so-called title game next week?
> >
> > I guess the B(C)S folk have to hope Oklahoma beats Florida and Texas loses
> > to OSU ... but even then, how can you leave out Utah from the title mix (or
> > SC, who would have pounded the team that just beat Texas).
> >
> > B-C-MESS!!! B-C-MESS!!!
> >
> > Too bad Fox' announcers chose to suck-up to the company line that the BCS
> > is magical, wonderful and great for college football. ABC at least spent the
> > second half yesterday trashing the BCS system for not giving USC a shot. The
> > entire second half in New Orleans should have at least had ONE mention of
> > how Utah will be the sole unbeaten and manhandled a team from the SEC that
> > was #1 for weeks and went toe-to-toe with Florida. Nary a peep from the
> > puppets.
> >
> > Interesting how the only two relatively close or entertaining BCS games in
> > the last three years have involved the BCS busters. Even more reason for a
> > playoff for college football, the "great movie with a bad ending" as one
> > journalist described it this week.
> >
> > GO CATS!!!
> > -SjT
> >
> > PS - Kudos to John Hodges and Carl Rossi for picking the ultimate upset
> > special in the bowl pool with Utah!
> >
> > * * * * * * * * *
> > STEPHEN J. TRUOG
> > sjtruog at yahoo.com
> > GO CATS!!!
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > 
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