[NU Sports] Slurs and other musical notations

[johnadeg at comcast.net]

Everyone who complained about my comments which were based upon a good article in The Weekly Standard on economic conditions in Detroit and Michigan plus my being from Motown with relatives who still live in that area gives me a  pretty good perspective on economic conditions in Detroit and Michigan.  The fact that Detroit's population is about half what it was the last time the Lions won the NFL Championship in 1957 should tell you something. Reading something other than the usual media can be informative.

John DeGroat 
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From: Jason Singer <jason at jasonsinger.com>
> Wow! I have an opinion about John's posts and that makes me someone who
> doesn't know enough to make that judgment...and I'M the elitist? Okay. The
> remark was in defense of someone else on the board that you were attacking.
> It was not an attack on you, but clearly you took it as such and for that I
> apologize. I am an actor so I have certainly been accused of being
> hyper-sensitive most of my life. Don't mind that part at all. Elitist? No,
> not really. Disagreeing does not make one elitist. Suggesting that I have no
> right to write a differing point of view (something I, BTW, did NOT suggest
> in my remarks - John can and should write whatever he feels like), or that
> that somehow makes me elitist is kinda funny. Calling a mostly
> African-American inner-city struggling to find anything to economically grab
> onto a "third-world country" is the very definition of an elitist comment,
> unless he didn't mean it that way. If he didn't mean that, he has had ample
> time to clarify, just as most people do when they are misunderstood (and as
> I have done above). So, I suggest he meant it exactly as a number of us read
> it and hence I'll stick to the comment that his remarks were borderline
> elitist/racist. Mine, on the other hand, were not. Sorry if you think they
> were. Again, just telling you that Paul was not alone in reading into it and
> that I take John's silence as affirmation that we are correct. No biggie.
> I'll still cheer standing next to you for the Cats and hoist a brew. I don't
> take much of this too personally. It's not why we are here.
> 
> Cheers!
> 
> - jason
> 
> 
> On 1/2/09 4:59 PM, "Dennis W. Brandt" <tbng at comcast.net> wrote:
> 
> > 
> >> For the record, Dennis, Paul is not alone in seeing something tat in my
> >> eyes
> >> WAS there. Not by a little bit. I have just taken to ignoring such posts
> >> from John. But don't for a minute take my silence to mean I don't find a
> >> good portion of his posts incendiary, incredibly pessimistic,
> >> mean-spirited
> >> and oft-times borderline elitist and/or racist. I'm not saying he is any
> >> of
> >> those things, but 90% of his posts are.
> >> 
> >> And I'm sure he feels not such great things about me either, which I
> >> assure
> >> you I have no problem living with. In fact, I take it as a compliment.
> >> 
> >> Cheers!
> >> 
> >> Jason Singer SP'86
> >> 
> > If you find what John DeGroat has said on this board to be "incendiary,"
> > "mean-spirited" and "borderline elitist and/or racist," you don't know one
> > person who truly fits those terms.  I suggest that elitism and
> > hypersensitivity exists elsewhere here.
> > 
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