[NU Sports]

Sun Feb 15 22:45:58 CST 2009

...and eventually lost in OT.  But this was a much better game than the 
Illinois game.  Manny Harris was a one-man show in the 2nd and in OT and 
Michigan needed every bit of it.  They also kept Craig Moore bottled up 
for most of the game, too.  Still, we can kiss the Big T good bye with 
two home losses, but the NIT should still come calling.  And I'm with 
those who say that this is young team that has exceeded expectations 
this year.  Carmody gets another year to build on these guys.  The last 
thing we need now is an exodus caused by a coaching change.  If players 
leave in the off-season unexpectedly, or if they don't improve next 
year, then that's a different story, but right now, BC comes back.

hakirsch at aol.com wrote:
> Nu forces ot with a 3 pointer with 25 seconds left
>
> Harry
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: "Roy Lamberton" <rstetson at capps-assoc.com>
>
> Date: Sat, 14 Feb 2009 15:23:04 
> To: 'Eric West'<e-west at northwestern.edu>; <nwu-sports at tssi.com>
> Subject: RE: [NU Sports] The John Wooden myth
>
>
> The sad thing about the "dump Carmody" idea is that it just might get more
> credence from the new administration at the north end of Ryan, but might not
> be a good idea.
>
> Whoever comes in will wind up losing half of the players to Div II schools
> much the way KON's crowd all bailed out for, and excelled at, lower ranked
> schools. (I would make the case that most deserved to be in Div I but that
> fight is unwinnable so....).
>
> A new coach will have to make the decision to play a variation of Princeton,
> to use the talent assembled, or shift to another style of play, however,
> many successful teams are now running variations of the Princeton, and
> credit that offense for giving them the tempo that allows victory most of
> the time.
>
> NU is running a quicker version of the Princeton now that we have more
> shooters.
>
> That said, IMHO, our weakness is in rebounding in the middle, breaking a
> full court press, and defending against a team with more than one long range
> shooter. (yeah, we also have trouble inside at times, but when the 1-3-1 is
> clicking, the inside is pretty well covered.)
>
> Luka, to his credit seems to be picking up more offensive rebounds lately. I
> think Rowley, once he stops thinking about what he's doing underneath will
> also. On the defensive end, Moore and Coble, and Luka all seem to get their
> share of defensive boards. 
>
> A new coach would play with the same guys for a couple of years, and would
> probably have a lot of success because the kids are there right now, but
> that coach would probably lose Mitch, and Tavaras and lose a lot of the
> recruiting contacts in Chicago that are bringing the better middle talent
> kids to Evanston.
>
> Personally, I would rather base BC's future on next year's team, than go
> through the complete shuffle that we'd see if there was a change this
> Spring. Besides, we'd probably get another "coach on the way up" who would
> win with BC's recruits for 2 years, then move on to a bigger job elsewhere.
>
> I know it’s a Cubbie Joke [like an Aggie Joke in Texas] but "wait 'til next
> year" makes sense to me.
>
> Go Cats - win out and dance
>
> rsl
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: nwu-sports-bounces at tssi.com [mailto:nwu-sports-bounces at tssi.com] On
> Behalf Of Eric West
> Sent: Friday, February 13, 2009 5:02 PM
> To: nwu-sports at tssi.com
> Subject: Re: [NU Sports] The John Wooden myth
>
> It's hardly a "myth." By 1961 John Wooden had won exactly one NCAA 
> tournament game (and that was a consolation game), he hadn't won his 
> conference in five years, and the 20-win seasons were long gone. Though 
> he was still the most successful coach at his school in decades (like, 
> you know...Carmody), there's no doubt quite a few folks on this list 
> would have been moaning that he'd lost his touch, he was regressing, he 
> couldn't sustain his early success, the program was clearly heading in 
> the wrong direction, it's time for new blood, etc., etc.
>
> Beyond that, if our most successful coach since the 1960s -- by FAR -- 
> can be called a "failure," then we are simply talking past each other. 
> It's great to expect something that has never ever happened, but there's 
> zero evidence to suggest that we will get there faster by firing 
> Carmody, *especially* at this particular point in this particular season.
>
> I'm starting to repeat myself, so I won't weigh in on Carmody again 
> until after the season is over. It will be telling how the team responds 
> to this jarring loss; the parallel might be the football team's loss to 
> Indiana this year. Will the basketball team fizzle out, or will they 
> buckle down, adjust, and get even better? The rest of the season will be 
> interesting.
>
>
> Eric West
> e-west at northwestern.edu
>
>
> Dennis W. Brandt wrote:
>   
>> Let's put to rest this it-took-John-Wooden-forever myth as an excuse 
>> for Carmody's failure.  The Wizard of Westwood's lifetime record at 
>> UCLA was 620 - 147, an overall winning percentage of .808, and it was 
>> .823 in conference.  He won 22 and 24 games his first two years at 
>> UCLA (1948-1950). Prior to his 1964 championship win over Michigan (my 
>> freshman year - we blew a game to Michigan at home that season, too, 
>> when Cazzie Russell took over late), he won 20 or more games in six 
>> seasons, 19 twice, and 18 three times. He never had a losing season at 
>> UCLA.  His worst year was 1959-60 when he was 14-12.  By the playoff 
>> rules of today, he would have been in the NCAAs the vast majority of 
>> times prior to 1964.  He was even 47 - 14 in the two years at Indiana 
>> State before he went to UCLA.
>>
>> We're not asking Carmody to win the NCAA championship at this point, 
>> just get us the hell into it!  He hasn't even gotten his team into the 
>> NIT with the also-rans, which makes us never-beens.
>>     
>
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