[NU Sports] From the NYT -- News Alert: Notre Dame Hires BrianKell y as New Coach

Michael Vance michael.vance at att.net
Sat Dec 12 21:10:43 CST 2009


The last team whose coach bolted just before they played Florida in a 
bowl game (MSU, 2000 Citrus Bowl) won that game.  Maybe it will be a trend.

-Michael

Evans Schoeman wrote:
> By all reports, Kelly's Cincinnati players seem to have pretty hard feelings about how he handled this.  It will be interesting to see how that plays out against Florida.
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> From: Jonathan Hodges <jonathanwhodges at gmail.com>
> To: "mlinhardt at netzero.com" <mlinhardt at netzero.com>
> Cc: Maureen.Linhardt at plexus.com; nwu-sports at tssi.com
> Sent: Fri, December 11, 2009 8:23:25 AM
> Subject: Re: [NU Sports] >From the NYT -- News Alert: Notre Dame Hires BrianKell y as New Coach
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> Note that Kelly didn't outright lie when it came to the Notre Dame job - in
> all of his comments, he left the door open to future contact and for the
> most part focused on his current job since Cincy had a game the last week of
> the season to worry about.  His comments were nowhere close to, say, Saban
> at Miami (NFL) where he blatantly lied about the Alabama job before taking
> it.  Kelly was a politician earlier in life and obviously knows how to
> handle himself well - that in itself will be a big departure from the last
> guy at ND.
>
> Regarding Barnett, this piece by Haugh in the Trib is a must read as it goes
> into the details behind the predicament many of these coaches are in when it
> comes to movement:
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> http://www.chicagotribune.com/sports/chi-09-haugh-notre-dame-dec09,0,879702.column
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> It says that Barnett told the team he was staying AFTER Colorado had decided
> on Kubiak.  Then Kubiak decided to stay in the NFL, Colorado came back to
> Barnett, and the rest was history.
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> And today things are even worse with the rise of the mobile internet,
> texting, and twitter that make communications to large numbers of people
> truly instant.  So, everyone expects to hear something as soon as anyone
> knows anything.  That puts quite a burden on these coaches who are fellow
> human beings and have to make important decisions that affect their own
> lives more than anyone else's.
>
> Blatantly lying isn't the way to go, but there's no way a coach can keep it
> all under wraps.  I think Kelly handled it the best way he could, and don't
> tell me if you were a coach that you wouldn't move from a school that was
> paying you in the six digits with little tradition and a stadium that holds
> about 30,000 to one that will pay you over double your current salary with
> the biggest tradition in college football and a stadium that holds 80,000+
> and has been sold out hundreds of consecutive games (not to mention the
> other resources that are available).  I dislike ND as much as the next guy,
> but I can't blame Kelly.
>
> Jonathan
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> On Fri, Dec 11, 2009 at 6:23 AM, mlinhardt at netzero.com <
> mlinhardt at netzero.com> wrote:
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>> Maybe I missed some of it, but from what I read Kelly was the #1 realistic
>> candidate as of a month ago.  I think most of his players truly knew that
>> if/when Weiss was fired Kelly was going.
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>> With GB I don't begrudge him at all for leaving just the way he left.  Once
>> a coach flirts and this flirtation becomes public he MUST go.  GB destroyed
>> at least 1 full season of NU football and possibly 2 or 3 with the recruit
>> meddling.  I think this is why many people dislike him.  I don't think Utah
>> fans hate Urban Meyer due to the fact he was offerred and he left without
>> being wishy-washy like GB.
>>
>> My belief in regard to the team in south bend is that put out feelers and
>> only Kelly responded.  This does not say much for that program.  Kelly could
>> be a Tressel-like coach, which would be good for them, but bad for the rest
>> of the world.  OTOH the Tressel aspects maybe don't translate where there
>> are still some academic requirements.
>>
>> ---------- Original Message ----------
>> As I read more about the circumstances of Kelly's hire and departure from
>> Cincy, I am saddened and angry at the way this played out.  And this is
>> coming from someone who enjoyed watching him and felt he is a tremendous
>> coach.  What if Colt McCoy had held the ball another second, and the
>> Bearcats would have been paired with 'Bama for the BCS Crown?  Would Kelly
>> still have left his team in the lurch?  He is walking away from a squad that
>> is on the verge of an undefeated season, playing the biggest game they ever
>> had.  Yes, it is his "dream" job, but the fact remains that he spent the
>> past 10 days or so lying to his team.  I don't believe for a second that the
>> Irish didn't send him feelers prior to the Pitt game, and certainly
>> afterwards, he had to know he was probably going, and yet he told his
>> players otherwise.  Maybe I am being naive, but when I heard Kelly on ESPN
>> (on a web replay) saying that this was being handled with "integrity", I
>> almost had to laugh.  Just read his p!
>>   layer's quotes in tonight's news reports.
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>> I choose to believe that Fitz would never do this kind of thing and that if
>> he ever decided to leave NU--God help us--he would be up-front about it.
>> Kelly is a great coach and yes, possibly a miracle worker, but he is far,
>> very far, from being a great man.  I choose to believe that Fitz is both.  I
>> really think his parents raised him right, and that his NU education just
>> built on a very solid foundation.  He is class personified, and emboides
>> everything that is good and true about NU.  I cannot imagine him walking
>> away from his "young men" like Kelly just did.  President Schapiro and the
>> Board of Trustees must make every effort to keep his compensation package
>> competititive and to provide the ancillary things (like good pay for
>> assistant coaches and upgrading facilities as needed) to go the extra miles
>> (not just mile) to keep Fitz clothed in Purple Pride.  He is truly a rare
>> breed, and we are so lucky to have him.  Coach Walker's death was a true
>> tragedy, but he left a lega!
>>   cy in a program that was on the rise and he left us Fitz as his most
>> worthy and honorable successor to carry the 'Cats to greater heights.
>>
>> By the way, I'd love to see Fitz challenge his fellow Irish-American to a
>> home and home series (South Bend & Evanston) in the next few years.  Or one
>> game--winner take all--at Soldier Field.
>>
>> See you in Tampa.  Go 'Cats!  Go Fitz!
>>
>> Paul Levinson
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>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Jim Bendat <thehaze at earthlink.net>
>> To: nwu-sports at tssi.com
>> Sent: Thu, Dec 10, 2009 9:45 pm
>> Subject: Re: [NU Sports] From the NYT -- News Alert: Notre Dame Hires
>> BrianKelly as New Coach
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>> It'll be a far cry from Faust who came from a Cincinnati high school, not a
>> niversity. I think that what Kelly accomplished at Cincinnati -- turning a
>> joke
>> f a program into a good one -- was nothing short of a miracle, and I think
>> e'll be a good fit for ND. As long as ND didn't go after Fitz, it's fine
>> with
>> e. - Jim
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: hakirsch at aol.com
>> Sent: Dec 10, 2009 6:58 PM
>> To: "Abrahamson, Alan (NBC Universal)" <Alan.Abrahamson at nbcsports.com>,
>> wu-sports-bounces at tssi.com, nwu-sports at tssi.com
>> Subject: Re: [NU Sports] From the NYT -- News Alert: Notre Dame Hires
>> rianKelly as New Coach
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>> Last time they hired a guy connected with cinncinati The Domers were
>> isappointed with 31-26 Gerry Faust.  Let's hope kelly last less than 5
>> years
>> ue to performance
>>
>> Harry
>> ------Original Message------
>> From: Abrahamson, Alan (NBC Universal)
>> Sender: nwu-sports-bounces at tssi.com
>> To: nwu-sports at tssi.com
>> Subject: [NU Sports] From the NYT -- News Alert: Notre Dame Hires
>> BrianKelly as
>> ew Coach
>> Sent: Dec 10, 2009 2:54 PM
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>> Breaking News Alert
>> The New York Times
>> Thu, December 10, 2009 -- 5:42 PM ET
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>> Notre Dame Hires Brian Kelly as New Coach
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>> Cincinnati Coach Brian Kelly will be introduced as Notre
>> Dame's next coach at a news conference in South Bend, Ind.,
>> on Friday.
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