[NU Sports] football and brains

Wed Nov 12 10:16:41 CST 2008

For the TV fans, the Big Ten weekly press release says Pam Ward and Ray Bentley will be doing the game in Ann Arbor at noon Eastern, and that the Illinois game will be 2:30 CST on the Big Ten Network.

Hooray - a late start !

Chuck Herron   Tech '85

-----Original Message-----
From: Jonathan Hodges <jonathanwhodges at gmail.com>
To: cherron604 at aol.com
Cc: nwu-sports at tssi.com
Sent: Wed, 12 Nov 2008 9:21 am
Subject: Re: [NU Sports] football and brains

Note that the Alamo Bowl and the Champs Sports Bowl rotate their pick order
4 and 5, including the Rose Bowl) every year.  I assume that this means
hat the Champs Sports Bowl picked first last year.
Also, here are important rules that are taken into consideration in the
election process:
1. According the NCAA rules, teams with a winning record (7-5 or better)
ust be selected before .500 (6-6) teams.  Bowls are also not allowed to
reate side deals to circumvent this rule.  This means that if the Insight
owl is left with a 7-5 team vs. a 6-6 team in the Big Ten, the 7-5 team
ust be chosen first.  This rule also applies to at-large bowl bids (no
onference affiliation or not enough conference teams eligible) where teams
ith a winning record must be selected before teams with .500 records -
hich is how some MAC and Sun Belt teams have been getting bowl bids for
ome of the bottom rung bowls in recent years.
2. According to Big Ten rules, the Capital One, Outback, Alamo, and Champs
ports Bowls must select the Big Ten team with the highest win total or a
eam within one win of them.  This means that an 8-4 team could be selected
efore a 9-3 team, but a 7-5 team could not be selected before a 9-3 team.
his rule will be important for the 'Cats down the stretch this season if
hey can win out.
Jonathan
On Wed, Nov 12, 2008 at 8:33 AM, <cherron604 at aol.com> wrote:
> The pecking order is

 1 Rose Pasadena
 2 Citrus Orlando
 3 Outback Tampa
 4 Alamo San Antonio
 5 Champs Orlando
 6 Insight Tempe
 7 Motor City Detroit

 (Sponsor names may have changed)

 Which fuels my next question - I've read two reporters (Herb Gould in
 Monday's Sun-Times and Bob Asmussen (Sunday's Champaign News-Gazette))

 http://www.illinihq.com/blogs/fourthandblog/2008/11/09/back_to_detroit

 that had Illinois going to the Insight in Tempe with 6 wins.  It would
 appear that if Illinois even got to 6 wins, there would still be 7 teams
 ahead of them with at least 7 wins.  For the Gould/Asmussen scenario to
 work, that means 8 Big Ten bowls, meaning 2 in the BCS.  Then, when it's
 Tempe's time to choose, don't they have to choose the 7 win team before the
 6 win team ?

 Asmussen did mention that both CBS Sportsline and collegefootballnews.comhad a 
otential 6 win Illini team in Detroit.  That also implies that both
 organizations think a team that lost to Western Michigan will beat us...

 On a brighter note, it's nice that you no longer have to pay to see content
 on the News-Gazette...

 Chuck Herron   Tech '85

 -----Original Message-----
 From: Sportsbiz <sportsbiz at gmail.com>
 To: sjtruog at yahoo.com
 Cc: nwu-sports at tssi.com
 Sent: Wed, 12 Nov 2008 7:53 am
 Subject: Re: [NU Sports] football and brains

 SI.com, in the person of alum  Stuart Mandel, projects us to the second
 rlando bowl against Miami, but he says it is the Big Ten's fourth bowl,
 head of the Alamo and behind the Outback.  Is that right - I thought the
 lamo came ahead of the Champs Bowl, but maybe that changed in the last
 ontract go-around when the Champs Bowl was added.

 http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2008/writers/stewart_mandel/11/10/bowl-projections/index.html
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 On Tue, Nov 11, 2008 at 10:18 PM, SjT (Stephen J. Truog)
 sjtruog at yahoo.com>wrote:
 > Well, I could see a silver lining there in that it would send us to
  Phoenix! An Insight Bowl vs. Kansas would be a fun game (I don't think
  anyone plays defense in the Big XII this year) and much better than an
 Alamo
  bid against Mizzou or playing Miami in Orlando.

  I do think that we really wrecked Minny's confidence, though, with that
  last interception return. They just haven't had the swagger since.

  Too bad we couldn't do it to MSU and send them into a self-doubting
  tailspin a few weeks earlier!

  GO CATS!!!
  -SjT

  * * * * * * * * *
  STEPHEN J. TRUOG
  sjtruog at yahoo.com
  GO CATS!!!

  --- On Tue, 11/11/08, CHerron604 at aol.com <CHerron604 at aol.com> wrote:

  > On a more puzzling note...would we call it irony if our
  > great win over
  > Minnesota shattered them so totally, that they lost out for
  > the season - giving
  > Michigan needed confidence for this week's game ?
  > Helping Iowa to 8  wins and
  > Wisconsin to 7 wins ?  Dropping us from the Alamo bowl to
  > the  Insight bowl ?
  >
  > Chuck Herron   Tech '85
  >
  >
  > In a message dated 11/11/2008 7:59:27 P.M. Central Standard
  > Time,
  > MHRJGScott at aol.com writes:
  >
  > First of  all I would like to thank all the listers for not
  > getting into
  > politics during this happy time in America, but I would
  > like to comment  on
  > a SI
  > article which talked about "the revenge of the
  > nerds"  eggheads, and other
  > wimp-like braniaks which were having good  season, CATS!!,
  > Duke, Stanford,
  > Rice,
  > Vandy, etc. Just where does it  say that a person with a
  > high IQ can not kick
  >
  > some butt.
  > I hope  our new Chicago guy can do what he says and from
  > the NYT:
  >
  > "Maybe, just  maybe, the result will be a step away
  > from the
  > anti-intellectualism  that has long been a strain in
  > American life. Smart and
  >  educated
  > leadership is no panacea, but we've seen recently that
  > the converse —  a
  > White House
  > that scorns expertise and shrugs at nuance — doesn't
  > get very far  either.
  > We can't solve our educational challenges when,
  > according to polls,
  > Americans
  > are approximately as likely to believe in  flying saucers
  > as in evolution,
  > and  when one-fifth of Americans  believe that the sun
  > orbits the  Earth."
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