[NU Sports] football and brains

Wed Nov 12 09:21:42 CST 2008

Note that the Alamo Bowl and the Champs Sports Bowl rotate their pick order
(4 and 5, including the Rose Bowl) every year.  I assume that this means
that the Champs Sports Bowl picked first last year.

Also, here are important rules that are taken into consideration in the
selection process:

1. According the NCAA rules, teams with a winning record (7-5 or better)
must be selected before .500 (6-6) teams.  Bowls are also not allowed to
create side deals to circumvent this rule.  This means that if the Insight
Bowl is left with a 7-5 team vs. a 6-6 team in the Big Ten, the 7-5 team
must be chosen first.  This rule also applies to at-large bowl bids (no
conference affiliation or not enough conference teams eligible) where teams
with a winning record must be selected before teams with .500 records -
which is how some MAC and Sun Belt teams have been getting bowl bids for
some of the bottom rung bowls in recent years.

2. According to Big Ten rules, the Capital One, Outback, Alamo, and Champs
Sports Bowls must select the Big Ten team with the highest win total or a
team within one win of them.  This means that an 8-4 team could be selected
before a 9-3 team, but a 7-5 team could not be selected before a 9-3 team.
This rule will be important for the 'Cats down the stretch this season if
they can win out.

Jonathan

On Wed, Nov 12, 2008 at 8:33 AM, <cherron604 at aol.com> wrote:

> The pecking order is
>
> 1 Rose Pasadena
> 2 Citrus Orlando
> 3 Outback Tampa
> 4 Alamo San Antonio
> 5 Champs Orlando
> 6 Insight Tempe
> 7 Motor City Detroit
>
> (Sponsor names may have changed)
>
> Which fuels my next question - I've read two reporters (Herb Gould in
> Monday's Sun-Times and Bob Asmussen (Sunday's Champaign News-Gazette))
>
> http://www.illinihq.com/blogs/fourthandblog/2008/11/09/back_to_detroit
>
> that had Illinois going to the Insight in Tempe with 6 wins.  It would
> appear that if Illinois even got to 6 wins, there would still be 7 teams
> ahead of them with at least 7 wins.  For the Gould/Asmussen scenario to
> work, that means 8 Big Ten bowls, meaning 2 in the BCS.  Then, when it's
> Tempe's time to choose, don't they have to choose the 7 win team before the
> 6 win team ?
>
> Asmussen did mention that both CBS Sportsline and collegefootballnews.comhad a potential 6 win Illini team in Detroit.  That also implies that both
> organizations think a team that lost to Western Michigan will beat us...
>
> On a brighter note, it's nice that you no longer have to pay to see content
> on the News-Gazette...
>
> Chuck Herron   Tech '85
>
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Sportsbiz <sportsbiz at gmail.com>
> To: sjtruog at yahoo.com
> Cc: nwu-sports at tssi.com
> Sent: Wed, 12 Nov 2008 7:53 am
> Subject: Re: [NU Sports] football and brains
>
>
>
> SI.com, in the person of alum  Stuart Mandel, projects us to the second
> rlando bowl against Miami, but he says it is the Big Ten's fourth bowl,
> head of the Alamo and behind the Outback.  Is that right - I thought the
> lamo came ahead of the Champs Bowl, but maybe that changed in the last
> ontract go-around when the Champs Bowl was added.
>
> http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2008/writers/stewart_mandel/11/10/bowl-projections/index.html
> Mark
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> On Tue, Nov 11, 2008 at 10:18 PM, SjT (Stephen J. Truog)
> sjtruog at yahoo.com>wrote:
> > Well, I could see a silver lining there in that it would send us to
>  Phoenix! An Insight Bowl vs. Kansas would be a fun game (I don't think
>  anyone plays defense in the Big XII this year) and much better than an
> Alamo
>  bid against Mizzou or playing Miami in Orlando.
>
>  I do think that we really wrecked Minny's confidence, though, with that
>  last interception return. They just haven't had the swagger since.
>
>  Too bad we couldn't do it to MSU and send them into a self-doubting
>  tailspin a few weeks earlier!
>
>  GO CATS!!!
>  -SjT
>
>  * * * * * * * * *
>  STEPHEN J. TRUOG
>  sjtruog at yahoo.com
>  GO CATS!!!
>
>
>  --- On Tue, 11/11/08, CHerron604 at aol.com <CHerron604 at aol.com> wrote:
>
>
>  > On a more puzzling note...would we call it irony if our
>  > great win over
>  > Minnesota shattered them so totally, that they lost out for
>  > the season - giving
>  > Michigan needed confidence for this week's game ?
>  > Helping Iowa to 8  wins and
>  > Wisconsin to 7 wins ?  Dropping us from the Alamo bowl to
>  > the  Insight bowl ?
>  >
>  > Chuck Herron   Tech '85
>  >
>  >
>  > In a message dated 11/11/2008 7:59:27 P.M. Central Standard
>  > Time,
>  > MHRJGScott at aol.com writes:
>  >
>  > First of  all I would like to thank all the listers for not
>  > getting into
>  > politics during this happy time in America, but I would
>  > like to comment  on
>  > a SI
>  > article which talked about "the revenge of the
>  > nerds"  eggheads, and other
>  > wimp-like braniaks which were having good  season, CATS!!,
>  > Duke, Stanford,
>  > Rice,
>  > Vandy, etc. Just where does it  say that a person with a
>  > high IQ can not kick
>  >
>  > some butt.
>  > I hope  our new Chicago guy can do what he says and from
>  > the NYT:
>  >
>  > "Maybe, just  maybe, the result will be a step away
>  > from the
>  > anti-intellectualism  that has long been a strain in
>  > American life. Smart and
>  >  educated
>  > leadership is no panacea, but we've seen recently that
>  > the converse —  a
>  > White House
>  > that scorns expertise and shrugs at nuance — doesn't
>  > get very far  either.
>  > We can't solve our educational challenges when,
>  > according to polls,
>  > Americans
>  > are approximately as likely to believe in  flying saucers
>  > as in evolution,
>  > and  when one-fifth of Americans  believe that the sun
>  > orbits the  Earth."
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