From WildElk2 at aol.com  Sat Sep  1 06:55:05 2007
From: WildElk2 at aol.com (WildElk2@aol.com)
Date: Sat Sep  1 06:51:54 2007
Subject: [NU Sports] 2007 Predictions
Message-ID: <d35.129bf137.340aad19@aol.com>

When looking at predicting the upcoming season,  I look  at "probable's".   
We can dissect the schedule and see patterns; plug  in our 
strengths/weaknesses, and make accurate predictions. This is what I  see:
1) Northeastern-win
2) Nevada- a "circle" game; also a "swing" game, which in my  vocabulary 
means it's important to how the season will turn out.- win
3) Duke-win
 
4/5) OSU/Michigan-  Losses, with a better chance against Ohio  St.
 
6) Michigan St.-a "circle" game-win
 
7) Minnesota- a "swing" game; a win here and were in the top echelon of the  
conference-win!
 
8) Purdue-loss. 
 
9) E. Michigan-win.
 
10)  Iowa- I believe Iowa, Mich. St. and Minnesota are heading for  sub-.500. 
 We'll win this game where, inexplicably, most list members see  this as a 
loss.
 
11) Indiana- Our situation with RW and Indian'a with Hoeppner are much  
differant. Coach Hep had been sick for a year prior to his passing; I'm not  buying 
Indiana falling apart like we did.  I'm predicting that Indiana will  make a 
push for the first division; as such our Capital One Bowl hopes will be  
dashed by Indiana
 
12) Illinois-a "swing" game. 7-5 means Detroit.  8-4 means Phoenix or  San 
Antonio.  Zooker will see improvement, but the Cats continue to  catch-up in the 
battle for Sweet Siuox;  Wouldn't that be a change- Cats  and Ill-noise 
battling for something other than respectability.  This  series may become more 
intense as the years unfold...
 
 
So there you have it.  8-4 and 4-4 in-conference.  Truog's rule  of 1 loss 
out of conference won't materialize this year, as I see these 07 Cats  as a 
hungry, focused group eager to put 2006 in their rear-view mirror.  I  think 
Dennis's analysis of breaking down positions is correct; when stacked up  against 
the conference we're a .500 club at best, but we'll sure 'nuff run the  ball 
better with an average passing game; something that was missing for the  first 8 
games last year.  
 
Additionally, adding Indiana and Minnesota, as well as dropping Penn St.  and 
Wisconsin (wish this was a "rivalry" game instead of Purdue) and 4 beatable  
non-cons has made this the easiest schedule we've had in ages.   Although I 
predict a loss vs. Indiana, logic tells me we'd have a better shot  vs. Iniana 
rather than PSU or Wisky.
 
As for today, I see a nice start similar to the 2005's season opener vs.  
Ohio; a 38-10 win in which only our own mistakes will prevent us from hanging 50  
on 'em.  Let's face it, New Hampshire was the much better club early  in the 
season last year, and while I know that Northeastern beat UNH , we  answered a 
lot of our own question in last season final 4 games. I say the  Huskies will 
hit the road; the road will hit back.
 
          GO  CATS!!!                  Eric
 



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From HUDHAIFA3 at aol.com  Sat Sep  1 08:01:29 2007
From: HUDHAIFA3 at aol.com (HUDHAIFA3@aol.com)
Date: Sat Sep  1 07:58:21 2007
Subject: [NU Sports] It's Like Christmas Morning
Message-ID: <caa.18945eb8.340abca9@aol.com>

One of my favorite days of the year.
3 hours until kickoff.
 
I have to admit the Big Ten Network is pretty cool
 
38-10 Cats



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From jmccull at insight.rr.com  Sat Sep  1 11:23:27 2007
From: jmccull at insight.rr.com (J.R. McCullough)
Date: Sat Sep  1 11:19:27 2007
Subject: [NU Sports] Defense still needs some work
Message-ID: <000801c7ecb4$6d910f00$6401a8c0@JROFFICEHP>

First drive -- only way we stopped them is because they stopped themselves!

Offense sounds good though. CJ is on fire.

J.R.
From sjtruog at yahoo.com  Sat Sep  1 12:38:56 2007
From: sjtruog at yahoo.com (SjT (Stephen J. Truog))
Date: Sat Sep  1 12:34:43 2007
Subject: [NU Sports] This is frickin' awesome!!!
In-Reply-To: <000801c7ecb4$6d910f00$6401a8c0@JROFFICEHP>
Message-ID: <620646.18569.qm@web52903.mail.re2.yahoo.com>

Big Ten games on FIVE different channels!!!

And more to come!!!

And best of all, every Northwestern game!!!

No, it's not perfect yet ... but I'll take a slouching
DiNardo over that bubble-boy Bowden doing his Porky
Pig imitation and the Domer Dud on ABC weekly!:)

HOORAY BIG TEN NETWORK!!!

GO CATS!!!
-SjT

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From thehaze at earthlink.net  Sat Sep  1 12:45:22 2007
From: thehaze at earthlink.net (Jim Bendat)
Date: Sat Sep  1 12:41:06 2007
Subject: [NU Sports] This is frickin' awesome!!!
In-Reply-To: <620646.18569.qm@web52903.mail.re2.yahoo.com>
References: <620646.18569.qm@web52903.mail.re2.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <46D9A532.7040101@earthlink.net>

Amen.  The BTN is fantastic.  My sincere condolences to all who cannot 
receive it.  -- Jim


SjT (Stephen J. Truog) wrote:
> Big Ten games on FIVE different channels!!!
>
> And more to come!!!
>
> And best of all, every Northwestern game!!!
>
> No, it's not perfect yet ... but I'll take a slouching
> DiNardo over that bubble-boy Bowden doing his Porky
> Pig imitation and the Domer Dud on ABC weekly!:)
>
> HOORAY BIG TEN NETWORK!!!
>
> GO CATS!!!
> -SjT
>
>   

From tmcadams at yahoo.com  Sat Sep  1 12:45:50 2007
From: tmcadams at yahoo.com (Trey McAdams)
Date: Sat Sep  1 12:41:32 2007
Subject: [NU Sports] Angry in Door County
Message-ID: <835994.5247.qm@web52201.mail.re2.yahoo.com>

So I understand that the Big Ten Network has vastly overrated their own market value with Comcast and Charter .

But we have just spent  1 hour in a bar in Door County Wisconsin.  The bar has DirecTV but they are not authorized for BTN.  So it looks like Bars and consumers were not licensed the same way.

I would hate to be in that bar when Wisconsin makes it's BTN first appearance.

I hate this Network.  NU has a lot to lose here.  We will be on the BTN more than most.  How have we allowed this terrible planning with the BTN?  NU fans will suffer more than most.

Is Mark Murphy asleep at the wheel?  Who is protecting our interests?



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From sjtruog at yahoo.com  Sat Sep  1 12:47:10 2007
From: sjtruog at yahoo.com (SjT (Stephen J. Truog))
Date: Sat Sep  1 12:42:54 2007
Subject: [NU Sports] First half thoughts ...
Message-ID: <131102.13571.qm@web52912.mail.re2.yahoo.com>

I wish we had another TD, but overall, not a bad start
to the half. Some thoughts ...

* CJ looks ***sharp*** - he's in midyear form already
and that first drive was perfection and spreading the
ball around.

* Special teams - WHOA! Touchbacks!! Opponent drives
starting inside the 30!! NICE! Not too bad on punts
either. Returns could use some work.

* I'm liking our secondary's attitude this year ...
they're hitting hard, they're pumping the D up and
every time I see a pass, they're right there. No more
cushions! I actually thought we could have been
flagged for interference a couple times ... but hey,
push the limits until they flag you, right?

* Also, Tyrell's thighs look HUGE - he must have done
a ton of squats this summer. Nice power ... now he
needs to keep his balance - he was a shoestring from a
couple touchdowns.

On the down side, we should have more rushing yards -
our O-line needs Rees back next week. And I want to
see some more defensive pressure.

But overall, a good start. Let's keep it up in the
second half! And watching Fitz' pregame talk had me
fired up - GO CATS!!!

Around the league ...

* PSU and OSU look solid
* MSU is surprising me with their offensive openness
* And what the heck is happening in ANN ARBOR?!?!?!
Lloyd may be retiring earlier than expected if they
don't wake up soon.

What a glorious Saturday!
GO CATS!!!
-SjT

* * * * * * * * *
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From Hakirsch at aol.com  Sat Sep  1 12:50:06 2007
From: Hakirsch at aol.com (Hakirsch@aol.com)
Date: Sat Sep  1 12:46:58 2007
Subject: [NU Sports] Angry in Door County
Message-ID: <c77.1a97673d.340b004e@aol.com>

Hey It's great--I have Direct TV and the only bad thing is that it will keep 
me home on Saturday mornings when I should be out bike riding !

Harry


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From sjtruog at yahoo.com  Sat Sep  1 13:01:28 2007
From: sjtruog at yahoo.com (SjT (Stephen J. Truog))
Date: Sat Sep  1 12:57:12 2007
Subject: [NU Sports] PS ...
In-Reply-To: <c77.1a97673d.340b004e@aol.com>
Message-ID: <919897.73259.qm@web52907.mail.re2.yahoo.com>

BTW ...

* Is there a reason Ann Arbor and Columbus both have
field turf this year? I had thought the trend was
toward grass?

We had some stupid penalties to star the half, but NEU
bailed us out with their own stupid penalty. I still
want to see us run the ball with more authority, but
CJ is really getting all the receivers involved and
Sutton is running tough. Gotta score here and make it
24-0.

GO CATS!!!
-SjT

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From sjtruog at yahoo.com  Sat Sep  1 13:11:17 2007
From: sjtruog at yahoo.com (SjT (Stephen J. Truog))
Date: Sat Sep  1 13:07:02 2007
Subject: [NU Sports] Angry in Door County
In-Reply-To: <835994.5247.qm@web52201.mail.re2.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <433016.14468.qm@web52905.mail.re2.yahoo.com>

> So I understand that the Big Ten Network has vastly
> overrated their own market value with Comcast and
> Charter .

Eh, I think it's Comcast who will start feeling the
heat from fans in the midwest. If Comcast hadn't
pushed for their own niche sports networks to be on
basic, they might have a case ... but, nope.
> 
> But we have just spent  1 hour in a bar in Door
> County Wisconsin.  The bar has DirecTV but they are
> not authorized for BTN.  So it looks like Bars and

I thought the Web site said bars would have access the
overflow channels too. If I were a bar owner in
Wisconsin or elsewhere in the midwest, I'd find a way
to get these games fast if the cable companies keep
dropping the ball - could be BIG business.

> I hate this Network.  NU has a lot to lose here.  We
> will be on the BTN more than most.  How have we

I don't see how NU has much to lose - this network
means our games are on TV every week nationwide. Ten
years ago, Notre Dame was pretty much the only one who
had that and five years ago, we had improved to most
Big Ten games each week - now we have all.

I think once the midwest cable thing is settled, this
will be a huge recruiting tool (which is why we need
to get a Coach Fitz show on the air!). Those with a
dish will see NU and Big Ten games nationwide every
week - no other league has that.

Even in the days of ESPN Plus, there would be some
games left out and they were really only available in
local markets unless you paid the GamePlan fee. I
can't see how this is a step back for the visibility
of our football program.

If nothing else, it means that the local Chicago
stations will have footage of the games to run on
their newscasts - I can remember times while in
Evanston where the NU highlights were either a local
camera on the sideline for a quick play or nothing at
all for road games.

BTW, if anyone switches to DirecTV for the Big Ten
Network, spread the wealth and say you were referred
by Stephen Truog in Litchfield Park, AZ. I need the
cash bonus!:) 

And let your cable company know that you switched
because they wouldn't carry BTN - if enough people
start leaving or threatening to leave, they'll work
out a deal in a hurry!

GO CATS!!!
-SjT

PS - Sutton is a "hawse" ... not getting much
blocking, but he's just steamrolling over 2-3 tacklers
each time!

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From sjtruog at yahoo.com  Sat Sep  1 13:33:47 2007
From: sjtruog at yahoo.com (SjT (Stephen J. Truog))
Date: Sat Sep  1 13:29:30 2007
Subject: [NU Sports] Who knew?
Message-ID: <521885.51992.qm@web52909.mail.re2.yahoo.com>

I accidentally hit a button the remote and discovered
that there was a non Big Ten football game on TV
today!

Turns out Michigan isn't the only top 10 team slacking
off big-time, as VaTech is only up 10-7 after three
quarters at home vs. ECU! I also hear there's a
Colorado rivalry game on - but I have no idea why they
would start a game at 10am in Denver!

But anyway, back to the five Big Ten games on TV ...
four solid performances and a shocker in Ann Arbor
that is growing more and more intriguing by the
minute! 

I sure hope we study this tape to look at how
AppState's spread is giving Michigan fits. They have
more option plays than we do, but CJ seems a bit
quicker this year and maybe we can tailor our spread
to mess up Michigan a bit at the end of the month.

GO CATS!!!
-SjT

PS - McManus is making some nice hits and firing up
the D ... we don't really have that linebacker leader
this year it looks like, but McManus is filling in nicely.

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From tbng at comcast.net  Sat Sep  1 14:06:47 2007
From: tbng at comcast.net (Dennis W. Brandt)
Date: Sat Sep  1 14:03:13 2007
Subject: [NU Sports] Cats
References: <521885.51992.qm@web52909.mail.re2.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <001301c7eccb$3eb82440$c402a8c0@DennisMachine>

Man!  I wish I had $10 grand and the points on Appalachin State!

QB - Great job
WR - Very good
RB - A little disappointing
OL - More disappointing - they didn't take charge
DL - Poor!  0 sacks and only 3 TOL, one of those by McManus
DB - So-so - good receivers would have eaten them up
LB - Let that crossing pattern work time after time
ST - WE CAN KICK!  WE CAN COVER!  We can't run back.

I am somewhat disappointed that our lines did not dominate.  This was 
Northeastern, after all.

GO CATS!

From sjtruog at yahoo.com  Sat Sep  1 14:38:18 2007
From: sjtruog at yahoo.com (SjT (Stephen J. Truog))
Date: Sat Sep  1 14:34:03 2007
Subject: [NU Sports] One down, 12 to go ...
In-Reply-To: <001301c7eccb$3eb82440$c402a8c0@DennisMachine>
Message-ID: <697514.54345.qm@web52912.mail.re2.yahoo.com>

First off, perhaps the best thing about the Big Ten
Network? Our designated abbreviation on top of the
screen was NU. Not NW or NWU ... NU. FINALLY!

So, not a great game but a solid first effort all
around with lots to be excited about this year!

The good ...
* CJ Bacher - He was on fire, he was utilizing every
one of his weapons and he was cool under fire. He even
showed some elusiveness (except he seems to spin out
of pressure the opposite way you would naturally). Our
offense is in good hands!

* Special teams - NU fans dreaded the new kickoff rule
- but touchbacks and opponent starting position inside
the 30 were the norm. Good coverage and punts too. Now
let's work on returns.

* The secondary - Tighter coverage and a bit of an
attitude. McManus was flying around the field and
making some nice pump-up plays. Good to see some
aggressiveness (without the stupid penalties, of
course).

The bad ...

* Our O-line - Sutton earned every yard he got through
sheer will and by breaking many, many tackles. Our
line didn't help him or Bacher much. We did wear them
out at the end, but I want that domination to start
early.

* Our front seven on D - Let's hope our secondary's
attitude is contagious because we need some edge and
fire up front. We gotta get some pressure there.

But overall, nice to get the shutout and nice to see
us start to dominate in the second half on both sides
of the ball. We just need to score more points when we
have the chance.

GO CATS!!!
-SjT

Oops - Appalachain State just recovered from their
bout of consevativitis and started playing again -
could come down to a field goal!

* * * * * * * * *
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From sjtruog at yahoo.com  Sat Sep  1 14:49:19 2007
From: sjtruog at yahoo.com (SjT (Stephen J. Truog))
Date: Sat Sep  1 14:45:02 2007
Subject: [NU Sports] Wow ...
Message-ID: <409888.34647.qm@web52904.mail.re2.yahoo.com>

The BTN couldn't have asked for a better debut game!
Looked like AppState was falling into conservatism,
then they woke up, then Michigan might have pulled it
out somehow, but BLOCKED!!!

Not good for the Big Ten's rep nationally ... but fun
to watch. Hopefully we can exploit Michigan's D like
AppState did.

So much for the Lloyd Carr farewell tour - it may be
more like a dash from an angry mob now.

And while Hart showed a lot of it, Henne was
absolutely awful. Goodbye Heisman.

GO CATS!!!
-SjT

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From neonrye at aol.com  Sat Sep  1 14:51:44 2007
From: neonrye at aol.com (neonrye@aol.com)
Date: Sat Sep  1 14:48:40 2007
Subject: [NU Sports] One down, 12 to go ...
In-Reply-To: <697514.54345.qm@web52912.mail.re2.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <8C9BAE8A8B627AD-A28-362A@webmail-me01.sysops.aol.com>


I don't have BT Net (Not available), but "watched" end of Mich. game on "AOL Gamecast".? Apparently, App. St. blocked Wolves FG attempt, and ran it back to Mich. 7 yard line to end game--after FG by App. St. put them ahead by 2 with 26 seconds to go.? Sounds like there were 100,000 plus stunned fans at "The House".? I think Carr just got closer to extinction.? This will not sit well in Ann Arbor.? Now our guys know that Mich. is vulnerable, which should give us a real chance in a month, IF (and it's a big IF) we can take care of business in next 2 Non-Conf. contests and then hold our own against the Bucks.? All in all, a very good afternoon so far.....



Paul Levinson


-----Original Message-----
From: SjT (Stephen J. Truog) <sjtruog@yahoo.com>
To: nwu-sports@tssi.com
Sent: Sat, 1 Sep 2007 3:38 pm
Subject: [NU Sports] One down, 12 to go ...




First off, perhaps the best thing about the Big Ten
Network? Our designated abbreviation on top of the
screen was NU. Not NW or NWU ... NU. FINALLY!

So, not a great game but a solid first effort all
around with lots to be excited about this year!

The good ...
* CJ Bacher - He was on fire, he was utilizing every
one of his weapons and he was cool under fire. He even
showed some elusiveness (except he seems to spin out
of pressure the opposite way you would naturally). Our
offense is in good hands!

* Special teams - NU fans dreaded the new kickoff rule
- but touchbacks and opponent starting position inside
the 30 were the norm. Good coverage and punts too. Now
let's work on returns.

* The secondary - Tighter coverage and a bit of an
attitude. McManus was flying around the field and
making some nice pump-up plays. Good to see some
aggressiveness (without the stupid penalties, of
course).

The bad ...

* Our O-line - Sutton earned every yard he got through
sheer will and by breaking many, many tackles. Our
line didn't help him or Bacher much. We did wear them
out at the end, but I want that domination to start
early.

* Our front seven on D - Let's hope our secondary's
attitude is contagious because we need some edge and
fire up front. We gotta get some pressure there.

But overall, nice to get the shutout and nice to see
us start to dominate in the second half on both sides
of the ball. We just need to score more points when we
have the chance.

GO CATS!!!
-SjT

Oops - Appalachain State just recovered from their
bout of consevativitis and started playing again -
could come down to a field goal!

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From thehaze at earthlink.net  Sat Sep  1 15:08:51 2007
From: thehaze at earthlink.net (Jim Bendat)
Date: Sat Sep  1 15:04:42 2007
Subject: [NU Sports] One down, 12 to go ...
In-Reply-To: <697514.54345.qm@web52912.mail.re2.yahoo.com>
References: <697514.54345.qm@web52912.mail.re2.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <46D9C6D3.6060100@earthlink.net>

Actually, in the past, it was ESPN that referred to us as NW, but ABC 
used NU in its network telecasts.  Check your tape of the 2000 
NU-Michigan game and you'll see what I mean -- Jim


SjT (Stephen J. Truog) wrote:
> First off, perhaps the best thing about the Big Ten
> Network? Our designated abbreviation on top of the
> screen was NU. Not NW or NWU ... NU. FINALLY!
>   

From neonrye at aol.com  Sat Sep  1 15:10:37 2007
From: neonrye at aol.com (neonrye@aol.com)
Date: Sat Sep  1 15:07:24 2007
Subject: [NU Sports] One down, 12 to go ...
In-Reply-To: <8C9BAE8A8B627AD-A28-362A@webmail-me01.sysops.aol.com>
Message-ID: <8C9BAEB4BA4DC19-A28-3694@webmail-me01.sysops.aol.com>

How "sparse" was crowd today at Ryan?? There's photo up on NU FB Home Page showing Bacher throwing pass with all empty seats in background.? Hope we had decent turnout, notwithstanding pronounced handicaps of weak (and "non-sexy") opponent, Holiday Weekend, lack of student body yet on campus.

Paul Levinson

P.S.:? My daughter's?newly-minted Alma Mater, 'Cuse, got crushed on ESPN last night by another team of Huskies (Washington).? We get Orange at home in opener next Fall and play them at the Dome in 2009.? Right now those games look like they can be colored Purple, as the boys from Upstate NY are a very weak group at this point, and Coach Greg Robinson (former D-Coordinator for my NY Jets and the Denver Broncos) looks like a bad fit in "Carrier"-land.

-----Original Message-----
From: neonrye@aol.com
To: sjtruog@yahoo.com; nwu-sports@tssi.com
Sent: Sat, 1 Sep 2007 3:51 pm
Subject: Re: [NU Sports] One down, 12 to go ...




I don't have BT Net (Not available), but "watched" end of Mich. game on "AOL 
Gamecast".? Apparently, App. St. blocked Wolves FG attempt, and ran it back to 
Mich. 7 yard line to end game--after FG by App. St. put them ahead by 2 with 26 
seconds to go.? Sounds like there were 100,000 plus stunned fans at "The 
House".? I think Carr just got closer to extinction.? This will not sit well in 
Ann Arbor.? Now our guys know that Mich. is vulnerable, which should give us a 
real chance in a month, IF (and it's a big IF) we can take care of business in 
next 2 Non-Conf. contests and then hold our own against the Bucks.? All in all, 
a very good afternoon so far.....



Paul Levinson


-----Original Message-----
From: SjT (Stephen J. Truog) <sjtruog@yahoo.com>
To: nwu-sports@tssi.com
Sent: Sat, 1 Sep 2007 3:38 pm
Subject: [NU Sports] One down, 12 to go ...




First off, perhaps the best thing about the Big Ten
Network? Our designated abbreviation on top of the
screen was NU. Not NW or NWU ... NU. FINALLY!

So, not a great game but a solid first effort all
around with lots to be excited about this year!

The good ...
* CJ Bacher - He was on fire, he was utilizing every
one of his weapons and he was cool under fire. He even
showed some elusiveness (except he seems to spin out
of pressure the opposite way you would naturally). Our
offense is in good hands!

* Special teams - NU fans dreaded the new kickoff rule
- but touchbacks and opponent starting position inside
the 30 were the norm. Good coverage and punts too. Now
let's work on returns.

* The secondary - Tighter coverage and a bit of an
attitude. McManus was flying around the field and
making some nice pump-up plays. Good to see some
aggressiveness (without the stupid penalties, of
course).

The bad ...

* Our O-line - Sutton earned every yard he got through
sheer will and by breaking many, many tackles. Our
line didn't help him or Bacher much. We did wear them
out at the end, but I want that domination to start
early.

* Our front seven on D - Let's hope our secondary's
attitude is contagious because we need some edge and
fire up front. We gotta get some pressure there.

But overall, nice to get the shutout and nice to see
us start to dominate in the second half on both sides
of the ball. We just need to score more points when we
have the chance.

GO CATS!!!
-SjT

Oops - Appalachain State just recovered from their
bout of consevativitis and started playing again -
could come down to a field goal!

* * * * * * * * *
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From jason at jasonsinger.com  Sat Sep  1 15:21:36 2007
From: jason at jasonsinger.com (Jason Singer)
Date: Sat Sep  1 15:17:27 2007
Subject: [NU Sports] First telecast...HUGE upset...BTN dropped the ball. And
 how about the name of a tackler once in a while...
Message-ID: <C2FF17E0.CB4D%jason@jasonsinger.com>

Well, the game was fantastic (Mich - App St.), but boy did BTN handle the
end of that game poorly.

1) Nitpicking, but not a word about the late hit non-call when App. St. had
the ball and was driving at the end. In the NU game they were ALL late hits.
Considering that a late hit cost Michigan a shot at the National
Championship last year, you'd think they might have said something, like how
fortunate they were not to have an easy call missed.

2) No real setup for either final field goal attempt , had to find the
scoreline up top to see how far the FG attempts were...

3) ONLY ONE REPLAY OF THE FINAL BLOCKED KICK!

4) Since it's the Big Ten network, you would have thought MAYBE they could
show a reaction shot or two from the Michigan players. Nothing. They talked
about Hart all day and didn't cut to/have a camera on him at the end...or
Lloyd Carr...or the players on the field...NOTHING! One shot of a Michigan
fan looking forlorn. Bad. Very bad.

5) Don't know her name, but the sideline reporter likes to talk instead of
asking questions. Moment was WAY too big for her capabilities.

6) They cut to the winning coach WAY too fast. Not enough time for us, the
TV audience, to take in the moment.

On the plus side...it was their first game. I'm sure they'll figure it out.

BUT...what is it going to take to get OUR announcing team to tell us who
made the tackles!!!! Never heard them say a defensive players name once
right after a play. Aggravating!

Cheers!

- jason singer
Speech '86


From jonathanwhodges at gmail.com  Sat Sep  1 16:00:33 2007
From: jonathanwhodges at gmail.com (Jonathan Hodges)
Date: Sat Sep  1 15:56:31 2007
Subject: [NU Sports] PS ...
In-Reply-To: <919897.73259.qm@web52907.mail.re2.yahoo.com>
References: <c77.1a97673d.340b004e@aol.com>
	<919897.73259.qm@web52907.mail.re2.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <fcb3ee270709011400r58d2a14akb3493fe09440dc67@mail.gmail.com>

The trend nowadays is definitely towards FieldTurf - Michigan had it
installed at least 3 years ago (when NUMB traveled in 2004 they already had
it).  NU has it installed on one of the practice fields on the east side of
Ryan Field and rumors have it that it is being considered for the field.  In
fact, many schools in the B10 have FieldTurf, including UM, Indiana,
Wisconsin, and Illinois.  I wouldn't be surprised to see it at NU soon.  It
has the advantage of easy care/maintenance yet feels much like regular grass
and gives more than the old AstroTurf (and even regular grass when it gets
frigid and the ground is as hard as a rock).  We'll see, though, but today
Ryan Field looked great in person with its natural grass.

Jonathan

On 9/1/07, SjT (Stephen J. Truog) <sjtruog@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> BTW ...
>
> * Is there a reason Ann Arbor and Columbus both have
> field turf this year? I had thought the trend was
> toward grass?
>
> We had some stupid penalties to star the half, but NEU
> bailed us out with their own stupid penalty. I still
> want to see us run the ball with more authority, but
> CJ is really getting all the receivers involved and
> Sutton is running tough. Gotta score here and make it
> 24-0.
>
> GO CATS!!!
> -SjT
>
> * * * * * * * * *
> STEPHEN J. TRUOG
> sjtruog@yahoo.com
> GO CATS!!!
>
>
>
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From jonathanwhodges at gmail.com  Sat Sep  1 16:03:59 2007
From: jonathanwhodges at gmail.com (Jonathan Hodges)
Date: Sat Sep  1 15:59:58 2007
Subject: [NU Sports] Wow ...
In-Reply-To: <409888.34647.qm@web52904.mail.re2.yahoo.com>
References: <409888.34647.qm@web52904.mail.re2.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <fcb3ee270709011403w78e45d12o6160d06cdbd98471@mail.gmail.com>

And you thought NU's loss to UNH last year was embarrassing, but at least
there were some excuses for the 2006 team (with the passing of Coach Walker
and a very inexperienced coaching staff, plus a pathetic offense) - but UM
was definitely supposed to be a top team this year.  We'll have to see how
they fare for the remainder of the year - could this be a down year for them
(they haven't had one in quite a while)?

Jonathan

On 9/1/07, SjT (Stephen J. Truog) <sjtruog@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> The BTN couldn't have asked for a better debut game!
> Looked like AppState was falling into conservatism,
> then they woke up, then Michigan might have pulled it
> out somehow, but BLOCKED!!!
>
> Not good for the Big Ten's rep nationally ... but fun
> to watch. Hopefully we can exploit Michigan's D like
> AppState did.
>
> So much for the Lloyd Carr farewell tour - it may be
> more like a dash from an angry mob now.
>
> And while Hart showed a lot of it, Henne was
> absolutely awful. Goodbye Heisman.
>
> GO CATS!!!
> -SjT
>
> * * * * * * * * *
> STEPHEN J. TRUOG
> sjtruog@yahoo.com
> GO CATS!!!
>
>
>
>
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From jonathanwhodges at gmail.com  Sat Sep  1 16:07:27 2007
From: jonathanwhodges at gmail.com (Jonathan Hodges)
Date: Sat Sep  1 16:03:29 2007
Subject: [NU Sports] One down, 12 to go ...
In-Reply-To: <8C9BAEB4BA4DC19-A28-3694@webmail-me01.sysops.aol.com>
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Attendance is listed at 16,199 - which is by far the worst attendance I've
ever experienced at Northwestern (my NU experience began in 2000).  Last
year's UNH game had about 20,000 which was the worst number in over a
decade.  I wonder how far back one has to go to find a worse attendance than
today.  It was a beautiful day and the 'Cats performed very well (first
shutout in a decade!) - it was great to see in person and a great day for
college football.  Hopefully some more people come out next week for Nevada.

Jonathan

On 9/1/07, neonrye@aol.com <neonrye@aol.com> wrote:
>
> How "sparse" was crowd today at Ryan?? There's photo up on NU FB Home Page
> showing Bacher throwing pass with all empty seats in background.? Hope we
> had decent turnout, notwithstanding pronounced handicaps of weak (and
> "non-sexy") opponent, Holiday Weekend, lack of student body yet on campus.
>
> Paul Levinson
>
> P.S.:? My daughter's?newly-minted Alma Mater, 'Cuse, got crushed on ESPN
> last night by another team of Huskies (Washington).? We get Orange at home
> in opener next Fall and play them at the Dome in 2009.? Right now those
> games look like they can be colored Purple, as the boys from Upstate NY are
> a very weak group at this point, and Coach Greg Robinson (former
> D-Coordinator for my NY Jets and the Denver Broncos) looks like a bad fit in
> "Carrier"-land.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: neonrye@aol.com
> To: sjtruog@yahoo.com; nwu-sports@tssi.com
> Sent: Sat, 1 Sep 2007 3:51 pm
> Subject: Re: [NU Sports] One down, 12 to go ...
>
>
>
>
> I don't have BT Net (Not available), but "watched" end of Mich. game on
> "AOL
> Gamecast".? Apparently, App. St. blocked Wolves FG attempt, and ran it
> back to
> Mich. 7 yard line to end game--after FG by App. St. put them ahead by 2
> with 26
> seconds to go.? Sounds like there were 100,000 plus stunned fans at "The
> House".? I think Carr just got closer to extinction.? This will not sit
> well in
> Ann Arbor.? Now our guys know that Mich. is vulnerable, which should give
> us a
> real chance in a month, IF (and it's a big IF) we can take care of
> business in
> next 2 Non-Conf. contests and then hold our own against the Bucks.? All in
> all,
> a very good afternoon so far.....
>
>
>
> Paul Levinson
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: SjT (Stephen J. Truog) <sjtruog@yahoo.com>
> To: nwu-sports@tssi.com
> Sent: Sat, 1 Sep 2007 3:38 pm
> Subject: [NU Sports] One down, 12 to go ...
>
>
>
>
> First off, perhaps the best thing about the Big Ten
> Network? Our designated abbreviation on top of the
> screen was NU. Not NW or NWU ... NU. FINALLY!
>
> So, not a great game but a solid first effort all
> around with lots to be excited about this year!
>
> The good ...
> * CJ Bacher - He was on fire, he was utilizing every
> one of his weapons and he was cool under fire. He even
> showed some elusiveness (except he seems to spin out
> of pressure the opposite way you would naturally). Our
> offense is in good hands!
>
> * Special teams - NU fans dreaded the new kickoff rule
> - but touchbacks and opponent starting position inside
> the 30 were the norm. Good coverage and punts too. Now
> let's work on returns.
>
> * The secondary - Tighter coverage and a bit of an
> attitude. McManus was flying around the field and
> making some nice pump-up plays. Good to see some
> aggressiveness (without the stupid penalties, of
> course).
>
> The bad ...
>
> * Our O-line - Sutton earned every yard he got through
> sheer will and by breaking many, many tackles. Our
> line didn't help him or Bacher much. We did wear them
> out at the end, but I want that domination to start
> early.
>
> * Our front seven on D - Let's hope our secondary's
> attitude is contagious because we need some edge and
> fire up front. We gotta get some pressure there.
>
> But overall, nice to get the shutout and nice to see
> us start to dominate in the second half on both sides
> of the ball. We just need to score more points when we
> have the chance.
>
> GO CATS!!!
> -SjT
>
> Oops - Appalachain State just recovered from their
> bout of consevativitis and started playing again -
> could come down to a field goal!
>
> * * * * * * * * *
> STEPHEN J. TRUOG
> sjtruog@yahoo.com
> GO CATS!!!
>
>
>
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From CHerron604 at aol.com  Sat Sep  1 16:59:06 2007
From: CHerron604 at aol.com (CHerron604@aol.com)
Date: Sat Sep  1 16:58:35 2007
Subject: [NU Sports] Great News
Message-ID: <cb3.18dc8917.340b3aaa@aol.com>

Georgia Tech 19, Evil Empire 0  (in the 3rd)
 
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From jleonard518 at yahoo.com  Sat Sep  1 17:21:44 2007
From: jleonard518 at yahoo.com (Jim Leonard)
Date: Sat Sep  1 17:17:26 2007
Subject: [NU Sports] Re: Great News in South Bend
Message-ID: <890787.48482.qm@web36811.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

I owuld like to take a momemnt to salute the McSpin Doctors of the NBC machine. I just saw Notre Dame kick a field goal to get on the board 19-3 at home late in the 3rd quarter. If it had been us, or Penn State, or Iowa, the commentators would have said, "and with that kick they are finally on the board." 

But no. This is the broadcast where they don't refer to Coach Weis, they call him "Charlie". So, what do they say after the field goal?, "that was a very productive drive for the Irish." B.S!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I for one hope that the Wramblin' Wreck can keep it going. Any start to the football season that has NU 1-0 and Michigan and Notre Dame 0-1 is a good on in my book.

Victory & Honor,
Jim



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From sjtruog at yahoo.com  Sat Sep  1 18:23:22 2007
From: sjtruog at yahoo.com (SjT (Stephen J. Truog))
Date: Sat Sep  1 18:19:07 2007
Subject: [NU Sports] Round two ...
In-Reply-To: <C2FF17E0.CB4D%jason@jasonsinger.com>
Message-ID: <933794.97428.qm@web52906.mail.re2.yahoo.com>

Love all these "waves" of games coming at fans today
...

Our opponent next week, Nevada, hung in there for
awhile in Lincoln. We'll definitely be tested. Hope we
make that week 1-2 leap in our play.

And it's been fun to flick back to NBC and see the
Irish deeper and deeper in a hole. I didn't catch the
comment after the FG that Jim mentioned, but that's
classic NBC hype of the Evil Empire (though they may
not be as kind seeing as how ND's cranky coach
basically blew off the post-game interview). Enjoy
that "rebuilding year" Domers.

My nomination for comment of the day, though, goes to
the ESPN2 crew doing the Illinois-Mizzou game:

"At the end of last year, Illinois was playing as well
as anyone in the Big Ten."

Really? I seem to remember NU pushing the Ill-ini
around the field yet again at the close of last year.

The game itself has turned quite exciting though ... I
just hope the Illini are as generous in giving us the
ball as they have been to the Tigers.:) But there is
some talent there - they are just going to have a lot
of rookie mistakes as they get used to winning.

Overall, I know the big story will obviously be the
Michigan meltdown - and deservedly so. But I'll be
interested to see how Indiana and Minnesota look
tonight -- the "bottom" of the Big Ten may be better
than expected this year, with MSU looking impressive,
NU pitching a shutout and the Illini rallying against
Mizzou. If the top teams like Michigan and Wisky (who
looked so-so vs. Wazzu) are indeed a bit below
expectations, that could make for a wild year in the
conference race.

But as noted, right now we just gotta beat Nevada and
hopefully get more fans in the seats.

GO CATS!!!
-SjT

PS - Oops on me about the Big House field turf - I do
remember the big hubbub when they switched a few years
back now. I guess it just stuck out today with OSU's
switch.

GO CATS!!!
-SjT

* * * * * * * * *
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From johnadeg at comcast.net  Sat Sep  1 18:39:44 2007
From: johnadeg at comcast.net (johnadeg@comcast.net)
Date: Sat Sep  1 18:36:03 2007
Subject: [NU Sports] One down, 12 to go ...
Message-ID: <090120072339.21184.46D9F8400002D09E000052C02216525806090A0B0E02080106@comcast.net>

The attendance was a disgrace.  The team deserves better suppurt than that.I wish that I had an answer.

Big Blue has some big problems.  What an upset.

John DeGroat
 -------------- Original message ----------------------
From: "Jonathan Hodges" <jonathanwhodges@gmail.com>
> Attendance is listed at 16,199 - which is by far the worst attendance I've
> ever experienced at Northwestern (my NU experience began in 2000).  Last
> year's UNH game had about 20,000 which was the worst number in over a
> decade.  I wonder how far back one has to go to find a worse attendance than
> today.  It was a beautiful day and the 'Cats performed very well (first
> shutout in a decade!) - it was great to see in person and a great day for
> college football.  Hopefully some more people come out next week for Nevada.
> 
> Jonathan
> 
> On 9/1/07, neonrye@aol.com <neonrye@aol.com> wrote:
> >
> > How "sparse" was crowd today at Ryan?? There's photo up on NU FB Home Page
> > showing Bacher throwing pass with all empty seats in background.? Hope we
> > had decent turnout, notwithstanding pronounced handicaps of weak (and
> > "non-sexy") opponent, Holiday Weekend, lack of student body yet on campus.
> >
> > Paul Levinson
> >
> > P.S.:? My daughter's?newly-minted Alma Mater, 'Cuse, got crushed on ESPN
> > last night by another team of Huskies (Washington).? We get Orange at home
> > in opener next Fall and play them at the Dome in 2009.? Right now those
> > games look like they can be colored Purple, as the boys from Upstate NY are
> > a very weak group at this point, and Coach Greg Robinson (former
> > D-Coordinator for my NY Jets and the Denver Broncos) looks like a bad fit in
> > "Carrier"-land.
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: neonrye@aol.com
> > To: sjtruog@yahoo.com; nwu-sports@tssi.com
> > Sent: Sat, 1 Sep 2007 3:51 pm
> > Subject: Re: [NU Sports] One down, 12 to go ...
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > I don't have BT Net (Not available), but "watched" end of Mich. game on
> > "AOL
> > Gamecast".? Apparently, App. St. blocked Wolves FG attempt, and ran it
> > back to
> > Mich. 7 yard line to end game--after FG by App. St. put them ahead by 2
> > with 26
> > seconds to go.? Sounds like there were 100,000 plus stunned fans at "The
> > House".? I think Carr just got closer to extinction.? This will not sit
> > well in
> > Ann Arbor.? Now our guys know that Mich. is vulnerable, which should give
> > us a
> > real chance in a month, IF (and it's a big IF) we can take care of
> > business in
> > next 2 Non-Conf. contests and then hold our own against the Bucks.? All in
> > all,
> > a very good afternoon so far.....
> >
> >
> >
> > Paul Levinson
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: SjT (Stephen J. Truog) <sjtruog@yahoo.com>
> > To: nwu-sports@tssi.com
> > Sent: Sat, 1 Sep 2007 3:38 pm
> > Subject: [NU Sports] One down, 12 to go ...
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > First off, perhaps the best thing about the Big Ten
> > Network? Our designated abbreviation on top of the
> > screen was NU. Not NW or NWU ... NU. FINALLY!
> >
> > So, not a great game but a solid first effort all
> > around with lots to be excited about this year!
> >
> > The good ...
> > * CJ Bacher - He was on fire, he was utilizing every
> > one of his weapons and he was cool under fire. He even
> > showed some elusiveness (except he seems to spin out
> > of pressure the opposite way you would naturally). Our
> > offense is in good hands!
> >
> > * Special teams - NU fans dreaded the new kickoff rule
> > - but touchbacks and opponent starting position inside
> > the 30 were the norm. Good coverage and punts too. Now
> > let's work on returns.
> >
> > * The secondary - Tighter coverage and a bit of an
> > attitude. McManus was flying around the field and
> > making some nice pump-up plays. Good to see some
> > aggressiveness (without the stupid penalties, of
> > course).
> >
> > The bad ...
> >
> > * Our O-line - Sutton earned every yard he got through
> > sheer will and by breaking many, many tackles. Our
> > line didn't help him or Bacher much. We did wear them
> > out at the end, but I want that domination to start
> > early.
> >
> > * Our front seven on D - Let's hope our secondary's
> > attitude is contagious because we need some edge and
> > fire up front. We gotta get some pressure there.
> >
> > But overall, nice to get the shutout and nice to see
> > us start to dominate in the second half on both sides
> > of the ball. We just need to score more points when we
> > have the chance.
> >
> > GO CATS!!!
> > -SjT
> >
> > Oops - Appalachain State just recovered from their
> > bout of consevativitis and started playing again -
> > could come down to a field goal!
> >
> > * * * * * * * * *
> > STEPHEN J. TRUOG
> > sjtruog@yahoo.com
> > GO CATS!!!
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > 
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From johnadeg at comcast.net  Sat Sep  1 18:45:47 2007
From: johnadeg at comcast.net (johnadeg@comcast.net)
Date: Sat Sep  1 18:42:04 2007
Subject: [NU Sports] Angry in Door County
Message-ID: <090120072345.5385.46D9F9AB0000427F000015092216525806090A0B0E02080106@comcast.net>

Never underestimate the arrogance of Comcast.

John DeGroat
 -------------- Original message ----------------------
From: "SjT (Stephen J. Truog)" <sjtruog@yahoo.com>
> > So I understand that the Big Ten Network has vastly
> > overrated their own market value with Comcast and
> > Charter .
> 
> Eh, I think it's Comcast who will start feeling the
> heat from fans in the midwest. If Comcast hadn't
> pushed for their own niche sports networks to be on
> basic, they might have a case ... but, nope.
> > 
> > But we have just spent  1 hour in a bar in Door
> > County Wisconsin.  The bar has DirecTV but they are
> > not authorized for BTN.  So it looks like Bars and
> 
> I thought the Web site said bars would have access the
> overflow channels too. If I were a bar owner in
> Wisconsin or elsewhere in the midwest, I'd find a way
> to get these games fast if the cable companies keep
> dropping the ball - could be BIG business.
> 
> > I hate this Network.  NU has a lot to lose here.  We
> > will be on the BTN more than most.  How have we
> 
> I don't see how NU has much to lose - this network
> means our games are on TV every week nationwide. Ten
> years ago, Notre Dame was pretty much the only one who
> had that and five years ago, we had improved to most
> Big Ten games each week - now we have all.
> 
> I think once the midwest cable thing is settled, this
> will be a huge recruiting tool (which is why we need
> to get a Coach Fitz show on the air!). Those with a
> dish will see NU and Big Ten games nationwide every
> week - no other league has that.
> 
> Even in the days of ESPN Plus, there would be some
> games left out and they were really only available in
> local markets unless you paid the GamePlan fee. I
> can't see how this is a step back for the visibility
> of our football program.
> 
> If nothing else, it means that the local Chicago
> stations will have footage of the games to run on
> their newscasts - I can remember times while in
> Evanston where the NU highlights were either a local
> camera on the sideline for a quick play or nothing at
> all for road games.
> 
> BTW, if anyone switches to DirecTV for the Big Ten
> Network, spread the wealth and say you were referred
> by Stephen Truog in Litchfield Park, AZ. I need the
> cash bonus!:) 
> 
> And let your cable company know that you switched
> because they wouldn't carry BTN - if enough people
> start leaving or threatening to leave, they'll work
> out a deal in a hurry!
> 
> GO CATS!!!
> -SjT
> 
> PS - Sutton is a "hawse" ... not getting much
> blocking, but he's just steamrolling over 2-3 tacklers
> each time!
> 
> * * * * * * * * *
> STEPHEN J. TRUOG
> sjtruog@yahoo.com
> GO CATS!!!
> 
> 
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From JHCCLARK at aol.com  Sat Sep  1 19:02:42 2007
From: JHCCLARK at aol.com (JHCCLARK@aol.com)
Date: Sat Sep  1 19:02:39 2007
Subject: [NU Sports] One down, 12 to go ... [Attendance]
Message-ID: <3EE1F66B.2C057779.006D6456@aol.com>

I have always been an advocate of night games to bring up attendance, especially early in the year.  Which brings me to a question I have had ever since the BTN was created.  

I have always heard that the noon/11am starts are because of television.  But now that the BTN is here, and all Big Tenn schools are no longer beholden to ABC and ESPN, why can't the BTN schedule some of their games (games not appearing on other networks, like NE @ NU) at 4p/3p or 8p/7p?

It would help attendance, everybody knows night games are more fun in the stands, and it spreads out the games on the day's schedule so that you don't NEED 5 channels, all showing noon/11a games.

Just a question.  Any know why?

In a message dated 9/1/2007 7:39:44 PM Eastern Daylight Time, johnadeg@comcast.net writes:

>The attendance was a disgrace.  The team deserves better suppurt than that.I wish that I had an answer.
>
>Big Blue has some big problems.  What an upset.
>
>John DeGroat
> -------------- Original message ----------------------
>From: "Jonathan Hodges" <jonathanwhodges@gmail.com>
>> Attendance is listed at 16,199 - which is by far the worst attendance I've
>> ever experienced at Northwestern (my NU experience began in 2000).  Last
>> year's UNH game had about 20,000 which was the worst number in over a
>> decade.  I wonder how far back one has to go to find a worse attendance than
>> today.  It was a beautiful day and the 'Cats performed very well (first
>> shutout in a decade!) - it was great to see in person and a great day for
>> college football.  Hopefully some more people come out next week for Nevada.
>> 
>> Jonathan
>> 
>> On 9/1/07, neonrye@aol.com <neonrye@aol.com> wrote:
>> >
>> > How "sparse" was crowd today at Ryan?? There's photo up on NU FB Home Page
>> > showing Bacher throwing pass with all empty seats in background.? Hope we
>> > had decent turnout, notwithstanding pronounced handicaps of weak (and
>> > "non-sexy") opponent, Holiday Weekend, lack of student body yet on campus.
>> >
>> > Paul Levinson
>> >
>> > P.S.:? My daughter's?newly-minted Alma Mater, 'Cuse, got crushed on ESPN
>> > last night by another team of Huskies (Washington).? We get Orange at home
>> > in opener next Fall and play them at the Dome in 2009.? Right now those
>> > games look like they can be colored Purple, as the boys from Upstate NY are
>> > a very weak group at this point, and Coach Greg Robinson (former
>> > D-Coordinator for my NY Jets and the Denver Broncos) looks like a bad fit in
>> > "Carrier"-land.
>> >
>> > -----Original Message-----
>> > From: neonrye@aol.com
>> > To: sjtruog@yahoo.com; nwu-sports@tssi.com
>> > Sent: Sat, 1 Sep 2007 3:51 pm
>> > Subject: Re: [NU Sports] One down, 12 to go ...
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > I don't have BT Net (Not available), but "watched" end of Mich. game on
>> > "AOL
>> > Gamecast".? Apparently, App. St. blocked Wolves FG attempt, and ran it
>> > back to
>> > Mich. 7 yard line to end game--after FG by App. St. put them ahead by 2
>> > with 26
>> > seconds to go.? Sounds like there were 100,000 plus stunned fans at "The
>> > House".? I think Carr just got closer to extinction.? This will not sit
>> > well in
>> > Ann Arbor.? Now our guys know that Mich. is vulnerable, which should give
>> > us a
>> > real chance in a month, IF (and it's a big IF) we can take care of
>> > business in
>> > next 2 Non-Conf. contests and then hold our own against the Bucks.? All in
>> > all,
>> > a very good afternoon so far.....
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > Paul Levinson
>> >
>> >
>> > -----Original Message-----
>> > From: SjT (Stephen J. Truog) <sjtruog@yahoo.com>
>> > To: nwu-sports@tssi.com
>> > Sent: Sat, 1 Sep 2007 3:38 pm
>> > Subject: [NU Sports] One down, 12 to go ...
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > First off, perhaps the best thing about the Big Ten
>> > Network? Our designated abbreviation on top of the
>> > screen was NU. Not NW or NWU ... NU. FINALLY!
>> >
>> > So, not a great game but a solid first effort all
>> > around with lots to be excited about this year!
>> >
>> > The good ...
>> > * CJ Bacher - He was on fire, he was utilizing every
>> > one of his weapons and he was cool under fire. He even
>> > showed some elusiveness (except he seems to spin out
>> > of pressure the opposite way you would naturally). Our
>> > offense is in good hands!
>> >
>> > * Special teams - NU fans dreaded the new kickoff rule
>> > - but touchbacks and opponent starting position inside
>> > the 30 were the norm. Good coverage and punts too. Now
>> > let's work on returns.
>> >
>> > * The secondary - Tighter coverage and a bit of an
>> > attitude. McManus was flying around the field and
>> > making some nice pump-up plays. Good to see some
>> > aggressiveness (without the stupid penalties, of
>> > course).
>> >
>> > The bad ...
>> >
>> > * Our O-line - Sutton earned every yard he got through
>> > sheer will and by breaking many, many tackles. Our
>> > line didn't help him or Bacher much. We did wear them
>> > out at the end, but I want that domination to start
>> > early.
>> >
>> > * Our front seven on D - Let's hope our secondary's
>> > attitude is contagious because we need some edge and
>> > fire up front. We gotta get some pressure there.
>> >
>> > But overall, nice to get the shutout and nice to see
>> > us start to dominate in the second half on both sides
>> > of the ball. We just need to score more points when we
>> > have the chance.
>> >
>> > GO CATS!!!
>> > -SjT
>> >
>> > Oops - Appalachain State just recovered from their
>> > bout of consevativitis and started playing again -
>> > could come down to a field goal!
>> >
>> > * * * * * * * * *
>> > STEPHEN J. TRUOG
>> > sjtruog@yahoo.com
>> > GO CATS!!!
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > 
>> ________________________________________________________________________________
>> ____
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From michael.vance at att.net  Sat Sep  1 20:09:58 2007
From: michael.vance at att.net (michael.vance@att.net)
Date: Sat Sep  1 20:06:17 2007
Subject: [NU Sports] One down, 12 to go ... [Attendance]
Message-ID: <090220070109.4886.46DA0D66000386980000131621603763160A0C020E90D2040A0E080C0703@att.net>

That sort of goes back to my scheduling question earlier.  I think that the best two options would be:

1) To show every game live without the need for overflow channels by having ESPN/ABC games at 11:00 & 2:30 (CT), two BTN games at 11:00 and 2:30, and then a BTN night game.

or

2) Eliminate the 11:00am start except for the one ESPN game and go with 1:00pm local time starts for BTN games.  That would stagger most of the starts.  You'd have 11 CT/12 ET starts for ESPN, 1:00 ET starts for BTN for the Michigan, Ohio, Indiana, and Pennsylvanis teams, and then 1:00 CT starts for the rest of the conference.  All except for the 3:30 ET/2:30 CT ABC game and a possible night game.

We do have at least one non-conference game going on every week during the "conference" season, and there is at least one weekend with only four conference games and three mid-season non-conference games (the weekend that we're in Detroit).  So there are usually going to be six games that need to be shown.

--
Michael 
mailto:michael@vance.com


-------------- Original message from JHCCLARK@aol.com: -------------- 


> I have always been an advocate of night games to bring up attendance, especially 
> early in the year. Which brings me to a question I have had ever since the BTN 
> was created. 
> 
> I have always heard that the noon/11am starts are because of television. But 
> now that the BTN is here, and all Big Tenn schools are no longer beholden to ABC 
> and ESPN, why can't the BTN schedule some of their games (games not appearing on 
> other networks, like NE @ NU) at 4p/3p or 8p/7p? 
> 
> It would help attendance, everybody knows night games are more fun in the 
> stands, and it spreads out the games on the day's schedule so that you don't 
> NEED 5 channels, all showing noon/11a games. 
> 
> Just a question. Any know why? 
> 
> In a message dated 9/1/2007 7:39:44 PM Eastern Daylight Time, 
> johnadeg@comcast.net writes: 
> 
> >The attendance was a disgrace. The team deserves better suppurt than that.I 
> wish that I had an answer. 
> > 
> >Big Blue has some big problems. What an upset. 
> > 
> >John DeGroat 
> > -------------- Original message ---------------------- 
> >From: "Jonathan Hodges" 
> >> Attendance is listed at 16,199 - which is by far the worst attendance I've 
> >> ever experienced at Northwestern (my NU experience began in 2000). Last 
> >> year's UNH game had about 20,000 which was the worst number in over a 
> >> decade. I wonder how far back one has to go to find a worse attendance than 
> >> today. It was a beautiful day and the 'Cats performed very well (first 
> >> shutout in a decade!) - it was great to see in person and a great day for 
> >> college football. Hopefully some more people come out next week for Nevada. 
> >> 
> >> Jonathan 
> >> 
> >> On 9/1/07, neonrye@aol.com wrote: 
> >> > 
> >> > How "sparse" was crowd today at Ryan?? There's photo up on NU FB Home Page 
> >> > showing Bacher throwing pass with all empty seats in background.? Hope we 
> >> > had decent turnout, notwithstanding pronounced handicaps of weak (and 
> >> > "non-sexy") opponent, Holiday Weekend, lack of student body yet on campus. 
> >> > 
> >> > Paul Levinson 
> >> > 
> >> > P.S.:? My daughter's?newly-minted Alma Mater, 'Cuse, got crushed on ESPN 
> >> > last night by another team of Huskies (Washington).? We get Orange at home 
> >> > in opener next Fall and play them at the Dome in 2009.? Right now those 
> >> > games look like they can be colored Purple, as the boys from Upstate NY are 
> >> > a very weak group at this point, and Coach Greg Robinson (former 
> >> > D-Coordinator for my NY Jets and the Denver Broncos) looks like a bad fit 
> in 
> >> > "Carrier"-land. 
> >> > 
> >> > -----Original Message----- 
> >> > From: neonrye@aol.com 
> >> > To: sjtruog@yahoo.com; nwu-sports@tssi.com 
> >> > Sent: Sat, 1 Sep 2007 3:51 pm 
> >> > Subject: Re: [NU Sports] One down, 12 to go ... 
> >> > 
> >> > 
> >> > 
> >> > 
> >> > I don't have BT Net (Not available), but "watched" end of Mich. game on 
> >> > "AOL 
> >> > Gamecast".? Apparently, App. St. blocked Wolves FG attempt, and ran it 
> >> > back to 
> >> > Mich. 7 yard line to end game--after FG by App. St. put them ahead by 2 
> >> > with 26 
> >> > seconds to go.? Sounds like there were 100,000 plus stunned fans at "The 
> >> > House".? I think Carr just got closer to extinction.? This will not sit 
> >> > well in 
> >> > Ann Arbor.? Now our guys know that Mich. is vulnerable, which should give 
> >> > us a 
> >> > real chance in a month, IF (and it's a big IF) we can take care of 
> >> > business in 
> >> > next 2 Non-Conf. contests and then hold our own against the Bucks.? All in 
> >> > all, 
> >> > a very good afternoon so far..... 
> >> > 
> >> > 
> >> > 
> >> > Paul Levinson 
> >> > 
> >> > 
> >> > -----Original Message----- 
> >> > From: SjT (Stephen J. Truog) 
> >> > To: nwu-sports@tssi.com 
> >> > Sent: Sat, 1 Sep 2007 3:38 pm 
> >> > Subject: [NU Sports] One down, 12 to go ... 
> >> > 
> >> > 
> >> > 
> >> > 
> >> > First off, perhaps the best thing about the Big Ten 
> >> > Network? Our designated abbreviation on top of the 
> >> > screen was NU. Not NW or NWU ... NU. FINALLY! 
> >> > 
> >> > So, not a great game but a solid first effort all 
> >> > around with lots to be excited about this year! 
> >> > 
> >> > The good ... 
> >> > * CJ Bacher - He was on fire, he was utilizing every 
> >> > one of his weapons and he was cool under fire. He even 
> >> > showed some elusiveness (except he seems to spin out 
> >> > of pressure the opposite way you would naturally). Our 
> >> > offense is in good hands! 
> >> > 
> >> > * Special teams - NU fans dreaded the new kickoff rule 
> >> > - but touchbacks and opponent starting position inside 
> >> > the 30 were the norm. Good coverage and punts too. Now 
> >> > let's work on returns. 
> >> > 
> >> > * The secondary - Tighter coverage and a bit of an 
> >> > attitude. McManus was flying around the field and 
> >> > making some nice pump-up plays. Good to see some 
> >> > aggressiveness (without the stupid penalties, of 
> >> > course). 
> >> > 
> >> > The bad ... 
> >> > 
> >> > * Our O-line - Sutton earned every yard he got through 
> >> > sheer will and by breaking many, many tackles. Our 
> >> > line didn't help him or Bacher much. We did wear them 
> >> > out at the end, but I want that domination to start 
> >> > early. 
> >> > 
> >> > * Our front seven on D - Let's hope our secondary's 
> >> > attitude is contagious because we need some edge and 
> >> > fire up front. We gotta get some pressure there. 
> >> > 
> >> > But overall, nice to get the shutout and nice to see 
> >> > us start to dominate in the second half on both sides 
> >> > of the ball. We just need to score more points when we 
> >> > have the chance. 
> >> > 
> >> > GO CATS!!! 
> >> > -SjT 
> >> > 
> >> > Oops - Appalachain State just recovered from their 
> >> > bout of consevativitis and started playing again - 
> >> > could come down to a field goal! 
> >> > 
> >> > * * * * * * * * * 
> >> > STEPHEN J. TRUOG 
> >> > sjtruog@yahoo.com 
> >> > GO CATS!!! 
> >> > 
> >> > 
> >> > 
> >> > 
> >> > 
> >> 
> ________________________________________________________________________________ 
> >> ____ 
> >> > Moody friends. Drama queens. Your life? Nope! - their life, your story. 
> >> > Play 
> >> > Sims Stories at Yahoo! Games. 
> >> > http://sims.yahoo.com/ 
> >> > 
> >> > _______________________________________________ 
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> >> > nwu-sports@tssi.com 
> >> > http://romaine.tssi.com/mailman/listinfo/nwu-sports 
> >> > 
> >> > 
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> >> 
> >> 
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From s.fridley at comcast.net  Sat Sep  1 20:17:56 2007
From: s.fridley at comcast.net (s.fridley@comcast.net)
Date: Sat Sep  1 20:14:16 2007
Subject: [NU Sports] One down, 12 to go ... [Attendance]
Message-ID: <090220070117.28680.46DA0F4400084CED000070082207001641970A040B079D00D29C@comcast.net>

The Big Ten's contract with ABC/Disney/ESPN gives ABC exclusive rights to the 2:30 time slot.   That helped keep the revenue rolling in from ABC at a high level. The Big Ten can't televise (sell broadcast rights for) any other games during that time slot.  The Big Ten can, and will, schedule more Saturday evening and Friday evening games.


 -------------- Original message ----------------------
From: JHCCLARK@aol.com
> I have always been an advocate of night games to bring up attendance, especially 
> early in the year.  Which brings me to a question I have had ever since the BTN 
> was created.  
> 
> I have always heard that the noon/11am starts are because of television.  But 
> now that the BTN is here, and all Big Tenn schools are no longer beholden to ABC 
> and ESPN, why can't the BTN schedule some of their games (games not appearing on 
> other networks, like NE @ NU) at 4p/3p or 8p/7p?
> 
> It would help attendance, everybody knows night games are more fun in the 
> stands, and it spreads out the games on the day's schedule so that you don't 
> NEED 5 channels, all showing noon/11a games.
> 
> Just a question.  Any know why?
> 
> In a message dated 9/1/2007 7:39:44 PM Eastern Daylight Time, 
> johnadeg@comcast.net writes:
> 
> >The attendance was a disgrace.  The team deserves better suppurt than that.I 
> wish that I had an answer.
> >
> >Big Blue has some big problems.  What an upset.
> >
> >John DeGroat
> > -------------- Original message ----------------------
> >From: "Jonathan Hodges" <jonathanwhodges@gmail.com>
> >> Attendance is listed at 16,199 - which is by far the worst attendance I've
> >> ever experienced at Northwestern (my NU experience began in 2000).  Last
> >> year's UNH game had about 20,000 which was the worst number in over a
> >> decade.  I wonder how far back one has to go to find a worse attendance than
> >> today.  It was a beautiful day and the 'Cats performed very well (first
> >> shutout in a decade!) - it was great to see in person and a great day for
> >> college football.  Hopefully some more people come out next week for Nevada.
> >> 
> >> Jonathan
> >> 
> >> On 9/1/07, neonrye@aol.com <neonrye@aol.com> wrote:
> >> >
> >> > How "sparse" was crowd today at Ryan?? There's photo up on NU FB Home Page
> >> > showing Bacher throwing pass with all empty seats in background.? Hope we
> >> > had decent turnout, notwithstanding pronounced handicaps of weak (and
> >> > "non-sexy") opponent, Holiday Weekend, lack of student body yet on campus.
> >> >
> >> > Paul Levinson
> >> >
> >> > P.S.:? My daughter's?newly-minted Alma Mater, 'Cuse, got crushed on ESPN
> >> > last night by another team of Huskies (Washington).? We get Orange at home
> >> > in opener next Fall and play them at the Dome in 2009.? Right now those
> >> > games look like they can be colored Purple, as the boys from Upstate NY are
> >> > a very weak group at this point, and Coach Greg Robinson (former
> >> > D-Coordinator for my NY Jets and the Denver Broncos) looks like a bad fit 
> in
> >> > "Carrier"-land.
> >> >
> >> > -----Original Message-----
> >> > From: neonrye@aol.com
> >> > To: sjtruog@yahoo.com; nwu-sports@tssi.com
> >> > Sent: Sat, 1 Sep 2007 3:51 pm
> >> > Subject: Re: [NU Sports] One down, 12 to go ...
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > I don't have BT Net (Not available), but "watched" end of Mich. game on
> >> > "AOL
> >> > Gamecast".? Apparently, App. St. blocked Wolves FG attempt, and ran it
> >> > back to
> >> > Mich. 7 yard line to end game--after FG by App. St. put them ahead by 2
> >> > with 26
> >> > seconds to go.? Sounds like there were 100,000 plus stunned fans at "The
> >> > House".? I think Carr just got closer to extinction.? This will not sit
> >> > well in
> >> > Ann Arbor.? Now our guys know that Mich. is vulnerable, which should give
> >> > us a
> >> > real chance in a month, IF (and it's a big IF) we can take care of
> >> > business in
> >> > next 2 Non-Conf. contests and then hold our own against the Bucks.? All in
> >> > all,
> >> > a very good afternoon so far.....
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > Paul Levinson
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > -----Original Message-----
> >> > From: SjT (Stephen J. Truog) <sjtruog@yahoo.com>
> >> > To: nwu-sports@tssi.com
> >> > Sent: Sat, 1 Sep 2007 3:38 pm
> >> > Subject: [NU Sports] One down, 12 to go ...
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > First off, perhaps the best thing about the Big Ten
> >> > Network? Our designated abbreviation on top of the
> >> > screen was NU. Not NW or NWU ... NU. FINALLY!
> >> >
> >> > So, not a great game but a solid first effort all
> >> > around with lots to be excited about this year!
> >> >
> >> > The good ...
> >> > * CJ Bacher - He was on fire, he was utilizing every
> >> > one of his weapons and he was cool under fire. He even
> >> > showed some elusiveness (except he seems to spin out
> >> > of pressure the opposite way you would naturally). Our
> >> > offense is in good hands!
> >> >
> >> > * Special teams - NU fans dreaded the new kickoff rule
> >> > - but touchbacks and opponent starting position inside
> >> > the 30 were the norm. Good coverage and punts too. Now
> >> > let's work on returns.
> >> >
> >> > * The secondary - Tighter coverage and a bit of an
> >> > attitude. McManus was flying around the field and
> >> > making some nice pump-up plays. Good to see some
> >> > aggressiveness (without the stupid penalties, of
> >> > course).
> >> >
> >> > The bad ...
> >> >
> >> > * Our O-line - Sutton earned every yard he got through
> >> > sheer will and by breaking many, many tackles. Our
> >> > line didn't help him or Bacher much. We did wear them
> >> > out at the end, but I want that domination to start
> >> > early.
> >> >
> >> > * Our front seven on D - Let's hope our secondary's
> >> > attitude is contagious because we need some edge and
> >> > fire up front. We gotta get some pressure there.
> >> >
> >> > But overall, nice to get the shutout and nice to see
> >> > us start to dominate in the second half on both sides
> >> > of the ball. We just need to score more points when we
> >> > have the chance.
> >> >
> >> > GO CATS!!!
> >> > -SjT
> >> >
> >> > Oops - Appalachain State just recovered from their
> >> > bout of consevativitis and started playing again -
> >> > could come down to a field goal!
> >> >
> >> > * * * * * * * * *
> >> > STEPHEN J. TRUOG
> >> > sjtruog@yahoo.com
> >> > GO CATS!!!
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > 
> >> 
> ________________________________________________________________________________
> >> ____
> >> > Moody friends. Drama queens. Your life? Nope! - their life, your story.
> >> > Play
> >> > Sims Stories at Yahoo! Games.
> >> > http://sims.yahoo.com/
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> >> >
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> >> 
> >> 
> >> 
> >> -- 
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> >> 1237 Emerson St Apt 2
> >> Evanston, IL  60201-3577
> >> (847) 736-2449
> >> jonathanwhodges@gmail.com
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From JHCCLARK at aol.com  Sat Sep  1 21:20:05 2007
From: JHCCLARK at aol.com (JHCCLARK@aol.com)
Date: Sat Sep  1 21:19:41 2007
Subject: [NU Sports] One down, 12 to go ... [Attendance]
Message-ID: <41E1BA46.243D10EF.006D6456@aol.com>

ABC/ESPN can have the 2:30p time slot.  It was always a time slot created and scheduled solely for television.  Growing up, the games would always start at 1pm, with or without television.  

But again, the energy is ALWAYS higher during night games, even if you start at 5p.  They need to do something to boost attendance at Ryan Field -- 16,000 is embarrassing and ridiculous.

In a message dated 9/1/2007 9:17:56 PM Eastern Daylight Time, s.fridley@comcast.net writes:

>The Big Ten's contract with ABC/Disney/ESPN gives ABC exclusive rights to the 2:30 time slot.   That helped keep the revenue rolling in from ABC at a high level. The Big Ten can't televise (sell broadcast rights for) any other games during that time slot.  The Big Ten can, and will, schedule more Saturday evening and Friday evening games.
>
>
> -------------- Original message ----------------------
>From: JHCCLARK@aol.com
>> I have always been an advocate of night games to bring up attendance, especially 
>> early in the year.  Which brings me to a question I have had ever since the BTN 
>> was created.  
>> 
>> I have always heard that the noon/11am starts are because of television.  But 
>> now that the BTN is here, and all Big Tenn schools are no longer beholden to ABC 
>> and ESPN, why can't the BTN schedule some of their games (games not appearing on 
>> other networks, like NE @ NU) at 4p/3p or 8p/7p?
>> 
>> It would help attendance, everybody knows night games are more fun in the 
>> stands, and it spreads out the games on the day's schedule so that you don't 
>> NEED 5 channels, all showing noon/11a games.
>> 
>> Just a question.  Any know why?
>> 
>> In a message dated 9/1/2007 7:39:44 PM Eastern Daylight Time, 
>> johnadeg@comcast.net writes:
>> 
>> >The attendance was a disgrace.  The team deserves better suppurt than that.I 
>> wish that I had an answer.
>> >
>> >Big Blue has some big problems.  What an upset.
>> >
>> >John DeGroat
>> > -------------- Original message ----------------------
>> >From: "Jonathan Hodges" <jonathanwhodges@gmail.com>
>> >> Attendance is listed at 16,199 - which is by far the worst attendance I've
>> >> ever experienced at Northwestern (my NU experience began in 2000).  Last
>> >> year's UNH game had about 20,000 which was the worst number in over a
>> >> decade.  I wonder how far back one has to go to find a worse attendance than
>> >> today.  It was a beautiful day and the 'Cats performed very well (first
>> >> shutout in a decade!) - it was great to see in person and a great day for
>> >> college football.  Hopefully some more people come out next week for Nevada.
>> >> 
>> >> Jonathan
>> >> 
>> >> On 9/1/07, neonrye@aol.com <neonrye@aol.com> wrote:
>> >> >
>> >> > How "sparse" was crowd today at Ryan?? There's photo up on NU FB Home Page
>> >> > showing Bacher throwing pass with all empty seats in background.? Hope we
>> >> > had decent turnout, notwithstanding pronounced handicaps of weak (and
>> >> > "non-sexy") opponent, Holiday Weekend, lack of student body yet on campus.
>> >> >
>> >> > Paul Levinson
>> >> >
>> >> > P.S.:? My daughter's?newly-minted Alma Mater, 'Cuse, got crushed on ESPN
>> >> > last night by another team of Huskies (Washington).? We get Orange at home
>> >> > in opener next Fall and play them at the Dome in 2009.? Right now those
>> >> > games look like they can be colored Purple, as the boys from Upstate NY are
>> >> > a very weak group at this point, and Coach Greg Robinson (former
>> >> > D-Coordinator for my NY Jets and the Denver Broncos) looks like a bad fit 
>> in
>> >> > "Carrier"-land.
>> >> >
>> >> > -----Original Message-----
>> >> > From: neonrye@aol.com
>> >> > To: sjtruog@yahoo.com; nwu-sports@tssi.com
>> >> > Sent: Sat, 1 Sep 2007 3:51 pm
>> >> > Subject: Re: [NU Sports] One down, 12 to go ...
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> > I don't have BT Net (Not available), but "watched" end of Mich. game on
>> >> > "AOL
>> >> > Gamecast".? Apparently, App. St. blocked Wolves FG attempt, and ran it
>> >> > back to
>> >> > Mich. 7 yard line to end game--after FG by App. St. put them ahead by 2
>> >> > with 26
>> >> > seconds to go.? Sounds like there were 100,000 plus stunned fans at "The
>> >> > House".? I think Carr just got closer to extinction.? This will not sit
>> >> > well in
>> >> > Ann Arbor.? Now our guys know that Mich. is vulnerable, which should give
>> >> > us a
>> >> > real chance in a month, IF (and it's a big IF) we can take care of
>> >> > business in
>> >> > next 2 Non-Conf. contests and then hold our own against the Bucks.? All in
>> >> > all,
>> >> > a very good afternoon so far.....
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> > Paul Levinson
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> > -----Original Message-----
>> >> > From: SjT (Stephen J. Truog) <sjtruog@yahoo.com>
>> >> > To: nwu-sports@tssi.com
>> >> > Sent: Sat, 1 Sep 2007 3:38 pm
>> >> > Subject: [NU Sports] One down, 12 to go ...
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> > First off, perhaps the best thing about the Big Ten
>> >> > Network? Our designated abbreviation on top of the
>> >> > screen was NU. Not NW or NWU ... NU. FINALLY!
>> >> >
>> >> > So, not a great game but a solid first effort all
>> >> > around with lots to be excited about this year!
>> >> >
>> >> > The good ...
>> >> > * CJ Bacher - He was on fire, he was utilizing every
>> >> > one of his weapons and he was cool under fire. He even
>> >> > showed some elusiveness (except he seems to spin out
>> >> > of pressure the opposite way you would naturally). Our
>> >> > offense is in good hands!
>> >> >
>> >> > * Special teams - NU fans dreaded the new kickoff rule
>> >> > - but touchbacks and opponent starting position inside
>> >> > the 30 were the norm. Good coverage and punts too. Now
>> >> > let's work on returns.
>> >> >
>> >> > * The secondary - Tighter coverage and a bit of an
>> >> > attitude. McManus was flying around the field and
>> >> > making some nice pump-up plays. Good to see some
>> >> > aggressiveness (without the stupid penalties, of
>> >> > course).
>> >> >
>> >> > The bad ...
>> >> >
>> >> > * Our O-line - Sutton earned every yard he got through
>> >> > sheer will and by breaking many, many tackles. Our
>> >> > line didn't help him or Bacher much. We did wear them
>> >> > out at the end, but I want that domination to start
>> >> > early.
>> >> >
>> >> > * Our front seven on D - Let's hope our secondary's
>> >> > attitude is contagious because we need some edge and
>> >> > fire up front. We gotta get some pressure there.
>> >> >
>> >> > But overall, nice to get the shutout and nice to see
>> >> > us start to dominate in the second half on both sides
>> >> > of the ball. We just need to score more points when we
>> >> > have the chance.
>> >> >
>> >> > GO CATS!!!
>> >> > -SjT
>> >> >
>> >> > Oops - Appalachain State just recovered from their
>> >> > bout of consevativitis and started playing again -
>> >> > could come down to a field goal!
>> >> >
>> >> > * * * * * * * * *
>> >> > STEPHEN J. TRUOG
>> >> > sjtruog@yahoo.com
>> >> > GO CATS!!!
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> > 
>> >> 
>> ________________________________________________________________________________
>> >> ____
>> >> > Moody friends. Drama queens. Your life? Nope! - their life, your story.
>> >> > Play
>> >> > Sims Stories at Yahoo! Games.
>> >> > http://sims.yahoo.com/
>> >> >
>> >> > _______________________________________________
>> >> > nwu-sports site list
>> >> > nwu-sports@tssi.com
>> >> > http://romaine.tssi.com/mailman/listinfo/nwu-sports
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> > ________________________________________________________________________
>> >> > Email and AIM finally together. You've gotta check out free AOL Mail! -
>> >> > http://mail.aol.com
>> >> > _______________________________________________
>> >> > nwu-sports site list
>> >> > nwu-sports@tssi.com
>> >> > http://romaine.tssi.com/mailman/listinfo/nwu-sports
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> > ________________________________________________________________________
>> >> > Email and AIM finally together. You've gotta check out free AOL Mail! -
>> >> > http://mail.aol.com
>> >> > _______________________________________________
>> >> > nwu-sports site list
>> >> > nwu-sports@tssi.com
>> >> > http://romaine.tssi.com/mailman/listinfo/nwu-sports
>> >> >
>> >> 
>> >> 
>> >> 
>> >> -- 
>> >> Jonathan W. Hodges
>> >> 1237 Emerson St Apt 2
>> >> Evanston, IL  60201-3577
>> >> (847) 736-2449
>> >> jonathanwhodges@gmail.com
>> >> _______________________________________________
>> >> nwu-sports site list
>> >> nwu-sports@tssi.com
>> >> http://romaine.tssi.com/mailman/listinfo/nwu-sports
>> >
>> >_______________________________________________
>> >nwu-sports site list
>> >nwu-sports@tssi.com
>> >http://romaine.tssi.com/mailman/listinfo/nwu-sports
>> >
>> 
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>
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From s.fridley at comcast.net  Sat Sep  1 22:05:33 2007
From: s.fridley at comcast.net (s.fridley@comcast.net)
Date: Sat Sep  1 22:01:53 2007
Subject: [NU Sports] One down, 12 to go ... [Attendance]
Message-ID: <090220070305.12384.46DA287D0001F6CE000030602207021633970A040B079D00D29C@comcast.net>

I didn't express my point very well.  ABC wants their Big Ten game to be the only one on the tube at the time. Since a game starting at 1 p.m. would not be completed by 2:30, and a game starting at 5 p.m. would start before a 2:30 game would conclude, neither a 1 p.m. or 5 p.m. start for a televised game is permissible under the contract with ABC.    A 6 p.m. or later start would work fine.

 -------------- Original message ----------------------
From: JHCCLARK@aol.com
> ABC/ESPN can have the 2:30p time slot.  It was always a time slot created and 
> scheduled solely for television.  Growing up, the games would always start at 
> 1pm, with or without television.  
> 
> But again, the energy is ALWAYS higher during night games, even if you start at 
> 5p.  They need to do something to boost attendance at Ryan Field -- 16,000 is 
> embarrassing and ridiculous.
> 
> In a message dated 9/1/2007 9:17:56 PM Eastern Daylight Time, 
> s.fridley@comcast.net writes:
> 
> >The Big Ten's contract with ABC/Disney/ESPN gives ABC exclusive rights to the 
> 2:30 time slot.   That helped keep the revenue rolling in from ABC at a high 
> level. The Big Ten can't televise (sell broadcast rights for) any other games 
> during that time slot.  The Big Ten can, and will, schedule more Saturday 
> evening and Friday evening games.
> >
> >
> > -------------- Original message ----------------------
> >From: JHCCLARK@aol.com
> >> I have always been an advocate of night games to bring up attendance, 
> especially 
> >> early in the year.  Which brings me to a question I have had ever since the 
> BTN 
> >> was created.  
> >> 
> >> I have always heard that the noon/11am starts are because of television.  But 
> >> now that the BTN is here, and all Big Tenn schools are no longer beholden to 
> ABC 
> >> and ESPN, why can't the BTN schedule some of their games (games not appearing 
> on 
> >> other networks, like NE @ NU) at 4p/3p or 8p/7p?
> >> 
> >> It would help attendance, everybody knows night games are more fun in the 
> >> stands, and it spreads out the games on the day's schedule so that you don't 
> >> NEED 5 channels, all showing noon/11a games.
> >> 
> >> Just a question.  Any know why?
> >> 
> >> In a message dated 9/1/2007 7:39:44 PM Eastern Daylight Time, 
> >> johnadeg@comcast.net writes:
> >> 
> >> >The attendance was a disgrace.  The team deserves better suppurt than that.I 
> >> wish that I had an answer.
> >> >
> >> >Big Blue has some big problems.  What an upset.
> >> >
> >> >John DeGroat
> >> > -------------- Original message ----------------------
> >> >From: "Jonathan Hodges" <jonathanwhodges@gmail.com>
> >> >> Attendance is listed at 16,199 - which is by far the worst attendance I've
> >> >> ever experienced at Northwestern (my NU experience began in 2000).  Last
> >> >> year's UNH game had about 20,000 which was the worst number in over a
> >> >> decade.  I wonder how far back one has to go to find a worse attendance 
> than
> >> >> today.  It was a beautiful day and the 'Cats performed very well (first
> >> >> shutout in a decade!) - it was great to see in person and a great day for
> >> >> college football.  Hopefully some more people come out next week for 
> Nevada.
> >> >> 
> >> >> Jonathan
> >> >> 
> >> >> On 9/1/07, neonrye@aol.com <neonrye@aol.com> wrote:
> >> >> >
> >> >> > How "sparse" was crowd today at Ryan?? There's photo up on NU FB Home 
> Page
> >> >> > showing Bacher throwing pass with all empty seats in background.? Hope 
> we
> >> >> > had decent turnout, notwithstanding pronounced handicaps of weak (and
> >> >> > "non-sexy") opponent, Holiday Weekend, lack of student body yet on 
> campus.
> >> >> >
> >> >> > Paul Levinson
> >> >> >
> >> >> > P.S.:? My daughter's?newly-minted Alma Mater, 'Cuse, got crushed on ESPN
> >> >> > last night by another team of Huskies (Washington).? We get Orange at 
> home
> >> >> > in opener next Fall and play them at the Dome in 2009.? Right now those
> >> >> > games look like they can be colored Purple, as the boys from Upstate NY 
> are
> >> >> > a very weak group at this point, and Coach Greg Robinson (former
> >> >> > D-Coordinator for my NY Jets and the Denver Broncos) looks like a bad 
> fit 
> >> in
> >> >> > "Carrier"-land.
> >> >> >
> >> >> > -----Original Message-----
> >> >> > From: neonrye@aol.com
> >> >> > To: sjtruog@yahoo.com; nwu-sports@tssi.com
> >> >> > Sent: Sat, 1 Sep 2007 3:51 pm
> >> >> > Subject: Re: [NU Sports] One down, 12 to go ...
> >> >> >
> >> >> >
> >> >> >
> >> >> >
> >> >> > I don't have BT Net (Not available), but "watched" end of Mich. game on
> >> >> > "AOL
> >> >> > Gamecast".? Apparently, App. St. blocked Wolves FG attempt, and ran it
> >> >> > back to
> >> >> > Mich. 7 yard line to end game--after FG by App. St. put them ahead by 2
> >> >> > with 26
> >> >> > seconds to go.? Sounds like there were 100,000 plus stunned fans at "The
> >> >> > House".? I think Carr just got closer to extinction.? This will not sit
> >> >> > well in
> >> >> > Ann Arbor.? Now our guys know that Mich. is vulnerable, which should 
> give
> >> >> > us a
> >> >> > real chance in a month, IF (and it's a big IF) we can take care of
> >> >> > business in
> >> >> > next 2 Non-Conf. contests and then hold our own against the Bucks.? All 
> in
> >> >> > all,
> >> >> > a very good afternoon so far.....
> >> >> >
> >> >> >
> >> >> >
> >> >> > Paul Levinson
> >> >> >
> >> >> >
> >> >> > -----Original Message-----
> >> >> > From: SjT (Stephen J. Truog) <sjtruog@yahoo.com>
> >> >> > To: nwu-sports@tssi.com
> >> >> > Sent: Sat, 1 Sep 2007 3:38 pm
> >> >> > Subject: [NU Sports] One down, 12 to go ...
> >> >> >
> >> >> >
> >> >> >
> >> >> >
> >> >> > First off, perhaps the best thing about the Big Ten
> >> >> > Network? Our designated abbreviation on top of the
> >> >> > screen was NU. Not NW or NWU ... NU. FINALLY!
> >> >> >
> >> >> > So, not a great game but a solid first effort all
> >> >> > around with lots to be excited about this year!
> >> >> >
> >> >> > The good ...
> >> >> > * CJ Bacher - He was on fire, he was utilizing every
> >> >> > one of his weapons and he was cool under fire. He even
> >> >> > showed some elusiveness (except he seems to spin out
> >> >> > of pressure the opposite way you would naturally). Our
> >> >> > offense is in good hands!
> >> >> >
> >> >> > * Special teams - NU fans dreaded the new kickoff rule
> >> >> > - but touchbacks and opponent starting position inside
> >> >> > the 30 were the norm. Good coverage and punts too. Now
> >> >> > let's work on returns.
> >> >> >
> >> >> > * The secondary - Tighter coverage and a bit of an
> >> >> > attitude. McManus was flying around the field and
> >> >> > making some nice pump-up plays. Good to see some
> >> >> > aggressiveness (without the stupid penalties, of
> >> >> > course).
> >> >> >
> >> >> > The bad ...
> >> >> >
> >> >> > * Our O-line - Sutton earned every yard he got through
> >> >> > sheer will and by breaking many, many tackles. Our
> >> >> > line didn't help him or Bacher much. We did wear them
> >> >> > out at the end, but I want that domination to start
> >> >> > early.
> >> >> >
> >> >> > * Our front seven on D - Let's hope our secondary's
> >> >> > attitude is contagious because we need some edge and
> >> >> > fire up front. We gotta get some pressure there.
> >> >> >
> >> >> > But overall, nice to get the shutout and nice to see
> >> >> > us start to dominate in the second half on both sides
> >> >> > of the ball. We just need to score more points when we
> >> >> > have the chance.
> >> >> >
> >> >> > GO CATS!!!
> >> >> > -SjT
> >> >> >
> >> >> > Oops - Appalachain State just recovered from their
> >> >> > bout of consevativitis and started playing again -
> >> >> > could come down to a field goal!
> >> >> >
> >> >> > * * * * * * * * *
> >> >> > STEPHEN J. TRUOG
> >> >> > sjtruog@yahoo.com
> >> >> > GO CATS!!!
> >> >> >
> >> >> >
> >> >> >
> >> >> >
> >> >> > 
> >> >> 
> >> 
> ________________________________________________________________________________
> >> >> ____
> >> >> > Moody friends. Drama queens. Your life? Nope! - their life, your story.
> >> >> > Play
> >> >> > Sims Stories at Yahoo! Games.
> >> >> > http://sims.yahoo.com/
> >> >> >
> >> >> > _______________________________________________
> >> >> > nwu-sports site list
> >> >> > nwu-sports@tssi.com
> >> >> > http://romaine.tssi.com/mailman/listinfo/nwu-sports
> >> >> >
> >> >> >
> >> >> > ________________________________________________________________________
> >> >> > Email and AIM finally together. You've gotta check out free AOL Mail! -
> >> >> > http://mail.aol.com
> >> >> > _______________________________________________
> >> >> > nwu-sports site list
> >> >> > nwu-sports@tssi.com
> >> >> > http://romaine.tssi.com/mailman/listinfo/nwu-sports
> >> >> >
> >> >> >
> >> >> > ________________________________________________________________________
> >> >> > Email and AIM finally together. You've gotta check out free AOL Mail! -
> >> >> > http://mail.aol.com
> >> >> > _______________________________________________
> >> >> > nwu-sports site list
> >> >> > nwu-sports@tssi.com
> >> >> > http://romaine.tssi.com/mailman/listinfo/nwu-sports
> >> >> >
> >> >> 
> >> >> 
> >> >> 
> >> >> -- 
> >> >> Jonathan W. Hodges
> >> >> 1237 Emerson St Apt 2
> >> >> Evanston, IL  60201-3577
> >> >> (847) 736-2449
> >> >> jonathanwhodges@gmail.com
> >> >> _______________________________________________
> >> >> nwu-sports site list
> >> >> nwu-sports@tssi.com
> >> >> http://romaine.tssi.com/mailman/listinfo/nwu-sports
> >> >
> >> >_______________________________________________
> >> >nwu-sports site list
> >> >nwu-sports@tssi.com
> >> >http://romaine.tssi.com/mailman/listinfo/nwu-sports
> >> >
> >> 
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> >
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> >
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From christopher_bailey at yahoo.com  Sat Sep  1 23:03:33 2007
From: christopher_bailey at yahoo.com (Christopher Bailey)
Date: Sat Sep  1 22:59:16 2007
Subject: [NU Sports] Chris Jeske
Message-ID: <831302.24087.qm@web60323.mail.yahoo.com>

Just wondering, has anyone heard anything about the progress of Chris Jeske?  Any chance he'll get to see some action this year?

GO 'CATS!

Christopher Bailey
christopher_bailey@yahoo.com



From sjtruog at yahoo.com  Sat Sep  1 23:07:29 2007
From: sjtruog at yahoo.com (SjT (Stephen J. Truog))
Date: Sat Sep  1 23:03:10 2007
Subject: [NU Sports] Not a bad game to end the day either ...
Message-ID: <163430.31100.qm@web52910.mail.re2.yahoo.com>

... though again, the Big Ten team lost.

Nice comeback by Minny, but a gutsy call to go for the
win by Bowling Green and a pretty nifty throw to get
it.

Not too sure what to make about opening weekend except
to say that the conference title race could be a wild
mess and that I can see all of the teams in the league
making a bowl push, as MSU and Indiana looked
impressive today.

Also, it looks like it will be a big year for offenses
in the Big Ten. Not just because teams like NU, Purdue
and Michigan have so many weapons ... but also it was
tough to find a defense that looked rock solid in week
1. Michigan was abysmal, Wisky looked vulnerable and
the best defensive performance - PSU - got a lot of
help from the butterfingers at FIU.

Next week should tell us a little bit more about the
Cats' chances as the level of opponent takes a step
up. As for attendance, tough to say ... probably the
usual suspects (small alumni base, spread out alumni
base, school not in session, not much excitement over
opponent from walk-up fans) -- though the weather
looked nice.

I don't think there's too much we can do though - this
will be with us forever. NU has been one of (if not
the) more exciting teams to watch in the last decade
or so and gameday weather has been pretty darn nice
most weekends. And yeah, the non-conference opponents
aren't big names, but there's really no incentive to
get tougher and get behind the 8 ball in the bowl
hunt.

The only thing I can really offer is to perhaps resize
the stadium a bit ala Stanford. I've always thought
those northeast bleachers could be torn down - they
don't fit with the "U" design of the stadium, stick
out like sore thumbs and are usually empty. Tear them
down, move the scoreboard closer to the field and
close the circle with the new locker rooms. That
doesn't fix everything, but it does knock the capacity
down a little and get rid of an eyesore that usually
pops up on video highlights (they seem to be in the
background more than the end zone end of the U). So it
at least looks more full. And then just give away huge
blocks of seats in the end zones to local
organizations, youth football teams, high schools,
etc. - we'll eat the cost, but it will look better on
TV and improve community relations to hopefully build
future fans?

GO CATS!!!
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From s.fridley at comcast.net  Sun Sep  2 06:55:08 2007
From: s.fridley at comcast.net (s.fridley@comcast.net)
Date: Sun Sep  2 06:51:25 2007
Subject: [NU Sports] Appalachian State hot, Michigan not (not not)
Message-ID: <090220071155.24590.46DAA49C0008E8290000600E2207021553970A040B079D00D29C@comcast.net>

Some of you may have seen this linked on the Rivals board.  I hope you enjoy it as thoroughly as I did...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pVENWl8uBeg

From tkmaycock at yahoo.com  Sun Sep  2 07:18:09 2007
From: tkmaycock at yahoo.com (Tom Maycock)
Date: Sun Sep  2 07:13:48 2007
Subject: [NU Sports] Appalachian State hot, Michigan not (not not)
In-Reply-To: <090220071155.24590.46DAA49C0008E8290000600E2207021553970A040B079D00D29C@comcast.net>
Message-ID: <512956.20178.qm@web33111.mail.mud.yahoo.com>


--- s.fridley@comcast.net wrote:

> Some of you may have seen this linked on the Rivals board.  I hope
> you enjoy it as thoroughly as I did...
> 
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pVENWl8uBeg
> 

Wow!

Embarrasing video aside, I'm happy for ASU. 

My wife and I have become very attached to that part of North Carolina
(not Boone itself so much, but the general area). We know a few people
that have gone there or have had kids attend ASU, so there was a bit of
extra excitement about the ASU win at our house. 

Tom

From WildElk2 at aol.com  Sun Sep  2 08:28:54 2007
From: WildElk2 at aol.com (WildElk2@aol.com)
Date: Sun Sep  2 08:25:40 2007
Subject: [NU Sports] Wow ...
Message-ID: <d1b.13098e69.340c1496@aol.com>

FWIW, Phil Steele's pre-season magazine said that Michigan's  defense was 
going to be a problem this season, but I doubt PS thought it would  kill 'em in 
the first game...
   NU: I was surprised by the "average" performance on both sides  of our 
linemen, particularly on defense.  With that said, our linebackers  were filling 
holes and getting a lot of tackles; I'm sure PF was pleased about  that.  And 
Rees will be back next week; good thing mon!
 
   I missed the 4th quarter due to prior arrangements.  Did  our back-ups 
play well?    
 
    GO  CATS!!!!                  Eric



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From WildElk2 at aol.com  Sun Sep  2 08:43:39 2007
From: WildElk2 at aol.com (WildElk2@aol.com)
Date: Sun Sep  2 08:43:11 2007
Subject: [NU Sports] One down, 12 to go ... [Attendance]
Message-ID: <bf9.1fde8e4e.340c180b@aol.com>

On the WGN broadcast at half-time, the 7th game was discussed  with Mark 
Murphy.  MM said the 7th game will be here to stay, as he  believes that by 
playing more games at home, our record will be better, we'll go  to more bowls and 
people will come out.
   I was at the Ohio game 2 years ago which drew 20,000 (bad  enough); I 
could only imagine what 16,000 looks like.   As Saturday in  a revenge type of 
game, attendance probably will be closer to 20,000, and the  Duke game at night 
should be between 25-30,000.  
   11 AM vs. Northeastern on Labor Day weekend? I guess we should  have seen 
this coming.
 
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From mlinhardt at netzero.net  Sun Sep  2 09:27:07 2007
From: mlinhardt at netzero.net (mlinhardt@netzero.net)
Date: Sun Sep  2 09:25:56 2007
Subject: [NU Sports] One down, 12 to go ... [Attendance]
Message-ID: <20070902.092707.14855.1@webmail04.dca.untd.com>

Being there the stadium looked EMPTY.

Since the coverage is the Big Ten network do we control the crowd shots?  We should direct the cameramen to show the pep band and the group of students that were on campus and not the empty sections.

Having games played in weather where shorts must be worn is WRONG, but it is here to stay.

I like the suggestion of downsizing the stadium a little.  What I would really like is just making the seats a little bit wider.  Without our seatbacks and our extra seat(3 season tickets for 2 people) we would be crushed during the conference season when the rows are packed.  Americans are getting bigger and this would be a subtle way to make the stadium look a little bit more crowded.

I thought Tyrell, CJ, and our receivers looked good.  Our O-line was fair, but took control late.

Our D-fense was marginal.  I thought we had the guys in the right place, but they did not make the play.  Them missing 2 field goals kept Northeastern from gaining any confidence.  I believe we realy, realy missed Brendan.  Hopefully he will be back for Nevada.

Bravo to our special teams.  We saw quite a few games where the special teams was NOT special and to have ours get 2 field goals, all extra points, EXCELLENT kickoffs, 1 punt inside the 10, and good tackling was a very pleasant surprise.  Our only mistake was Wards gaffe on the 1st punt.

My spouse has family in Michigan and although I hate to see a big ten team lose we can use this forever when they try to harass us about ANYTHING NU does poorly -- MSU 2006, UNL 2000, UNH 2006, no NCAA tourney, etc.

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From tbng at comcast.net  Sun Sep  2 09:45:24 2007
From: tbng at comcast.net (Dennis W. Brandt)
Date: Sun Sep  2 09:41:48 2007
Subject: [NU Sports] The ASU call
References: <20070902.092707.14855.1@webmail04.dca.untd.com>
Message-ID: <000301c7ed6f$e5c145b0$c402a8c0@DennisMachine>

Check out what I presume is ASU's school radio broadcast of the final play.

http://goasu.com/testmedia/audio/689/

From thehaze at earthlink.net  Sun Sep  2 10:01:35 2007
From: thehaze at earthlink.net (Jim Bendat)
Date: Sun Sep  2 09:57:17 2007
Subject: [NU Sports] Night Games 
In-Reply-To: <3EE1F66B.2C057779.006D6456@aol.com>
References: <3EE1F66B.2C057779.006D6456@aol.com>
Message-ID: <46DAD04F.5030101@earthlink.net>

Agreed, night games -- particularly in early September -- would be 
great.  Now, I might be wrong, but I sort of recall that the Evanston 
politicians passed some kind of ordinance that would allow us to have no 
more than one night game each season.  Anyone else remember anything 
like that?


JHCCLARK@aol.com wrote:
> I have always been an advocate of night games to bring up attendance, especially early in the year.  Which brings me to a question I have had ever since the BTN was created.  
>
> I have always heard that the noon/11am starts are because of television.  But now that the BTN is here, and all Big Tenn schools are no longer beholden to ABC and ESPN, why can't the BTN schedule some of their games (games not appearing on other networks, like NE @ NU) at 4p/3p or 8p/7p?
>
> It would help attendance, everybody knows night games are more fun in the stands, and it spreads out the games on the day's schedule so that you don't NEED 5 channels, all showing noon/11a games.
>
> Just a question.  Any know why?
>
>   
>   

From jonathanwhodges at gmail.com  Sun Sep  2 10:01:49 2007
From: jonathanwhodges at gmail.com (Jonathan Hodges)
Date: Sun Sep  2 09:58:28 2007
Subject: [NU Sports] Chris Jeske
In-Reply-To: <831302.24087.qm@web60323.mail.yahoo.com>
References: <831302.24087.qm@web60323.mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <fcb3ee270709020801s78e46d50j61eec2cb4654a2f9@mail.gmail.com>

Jeske was in the game late yesterday (during garbage time) and was in on a
couple plays, although his playing time wasn't really enough to evaluate
anything - but it was encouraging to see him on the field.  In fact, Fitz
used quite a few younger players throughout the game including Grant, Rucks,
Rooks, Dunsmore, Stewart, and a few others.  In fact the big TE Rooks came
in for quite a few drives and looked pretty good in a blocking role.  McGee
changed things up quite often with multiple TE/TE-FB sets and still managed
to deliver some passes and get a little bit of running room (although there
is still a lot left to be desired from the OL - which the return of Rees
should help address).  Anyways hopefully the playing time for the younger
guys will help in the long run.

Jonathan

On 9/1/07, Christopher Bailey <christopher_bailey@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> Just wondering, has anyone heard anything about the progress of Chris
> Jeske?  Any chance he'll get to see some action this year?
>
> GO 'CATS!
>
> Christopher Bailey
> christopher_bailey@yahoo.com
>
>
>
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From jonathanwhodges at gmail.com  Sun Sep  2 10:06:29 2007
From: jonathanwhodges at gmail.com (Jonathan Hodges)
Date: Sun Sep  2 10:02:27 2007
Subject: [NU Sports] Night Games
In-Reply-To: <46DAD04F.5030101@earthlink.net>
References: <3EE1F66B.2C057779.006D6456@aol.com>
	<46DAD04F.5030101@earthlink.net>
Message-ID: <fcb3ee270709020806k23bbcfb1v4c621279f2c661c8@mail.gmail.com>

I believe that this is the case, and since ESPN/ABC decide their night games
in advance of the season they apparently released NU from any home night
games hence the BTN's decision to take a night time for the Duke game.  I
don't see Evanston changing that "one night game per year" ordinance unless
NU forks over some money - just like they did to get rid of the "historic
district" dispute (when the city designated a large portion of campus as a
historic district, severely limiting NU's ability to perform any work on
those buildings - and such "historic" buildings like Blomquist Gym (built in
the 80's), Foster Walker Complex (built in the 70's), and the Hillel Center
(built in the late 90's) were a part of that district - NU paid the city
over $700,000 to get rid of the tag on most of the buildings).  It's all
part of the town gown relationship, although that has been subsiding
recently with the retirement of certain aldermen, but it's still present
(thanks to the fact that NU pays no property taxes).

Jonathan

On 9/2/07, Jim Bendat <thehaze@earthlink.net> wrote:
>
> Agreed, night games -- particularly in early September -- would be
> great.  Now, I might be wrong, but I sort of recall that the Evanston
> politicians passed some kind of ordinance that would allow us to have no
> more than one night game each season.  Anyone else remember anything
> like that?
>
>
> JHCCLARK@aol.com wrote:
> > I have always been an advocate of night games to bring up attendance,
> especially early in the year.  Which brings me to a question I have had ever
> since the BTN was created.
> >
> > I have always heard that the noon/11am starts are because of
> television.  But now that the BTN is here, and all Big Tenn schools are no
> longer beholden to ABC and ESPN, why can't the BTN schedule some of their
> games (games not appearing on other networks, like NE @ NU) at 4p/3p or
> 8p/7p?
> >
> > It would help attendance, everybody knows night games are more fun in
> the stands, and it spreads out the games on the day's schedule so that you
> don't NEED 5 channels, all showing noon/11a games.
> >
> > Just a question.  Any know why?
> >
> >
> >
>
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From jonathanwhodges at gmail.com  Sun Sep  2 10:09:14 2007
From: jonathanwhodges at gmail.com (Jonathan Hodges)
Date: Sun Sep  2 10:05:51 2007
Subject: [NU Sports] Wow ...
In-Reply-To: <d1b.13098e69.340c1496@aol.com>
References: <d1b.13098e69.340c1496@aol.com>
Message-ID: <fcb3ee270709020809j312fcc3ehab801345b07bdcbc@mail.gmail.com>

The backups played well enough to preserve the shutout and not have any
mistakes - which is somewhat encouraging.

Also, in the post-game press conference the coaches confirmed NU was playing
a "vanilla" defense and didn't blitz much - and I hope some different
packages moving forward would make the DL look better because yesterday they
didn't get much pressure on their QB at all - and had no sacks.  Plus,
whenever someone did break free from a block the QB eluded the pressure
every time.

On offense the return of Rees should help immensely, but 3 sacks allowed
plus holding penalties, plus little running room are not encouraging
(although the passing game was running very well).

Jonathan

On 9/2/07, WildElk2@aol.com <WildElk2@aol.com> wrote:
>
>     FWIW, Phil Steele's pre-season magazine said that Michigan's defense
> was going to be a problem this season, but I doubt PS thought it would kill
> 'em in the first game...
>    NU: I was surprised by the "average" performance on both sides of our
> linemen, particularly on defense.  With that said, our linebackers were
> filling holes and getting a lot of tackles; I'm sure PF was pleased about
> that.  And Rees will be back next week; good thing mon!
>
>    I missed the 4th quarter due to prior arrangements.  Did our back-ups
> play well?
>
>     GO CATS!!!!                 Eric
>
>
>
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From MHRJGScott at aol.com  Sun Sep  2 11:17:11 2007
From: MHRJGScott at aol.com (MHRJGScott@aol.com)
Date: Sun Sep  2 11:16:35 2007
Subject: [NU Sports] Notre Dame
Message-ID: <d55.1224114f.340c3c07@aol.com>

I don't know if the ASU upset was the biggest in history, but I almost feel  
sorry for the Irish (not), as their program seems to be on a perpetual  skid.  
End of an era?



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From artmiller1 at hotmail.com  Sun Sep  2 16:33:09 2007
From: artmiller1 at hotmail.com (Arthur Miller)
Date: Sun Sep  2 16:28:58 2007
Subject: [NU Sports] Notre Dame
In-Reply-To: <d55.1224114f.340c3c07@aol.com>
Message-ID: <BAY106-DAV11C867651A34B43C3B091F8AC80@phx.gbl>

Notre Dame hasn't been very good (by their own standards) over the past 13
years but they're coming off of 10-3 season, with a 9-3 season before that.
Not sure how that constitutes a "perpetual skid"...it would appear that
those are roughly equal records to the two greatest years (95-96) in the
last half-century for NU.

Personally, I hope we can someday get the NU program to the point where 19-6
over 2 years equals mediocrity.




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I don't know if the ASU upset was the biggest in history, but I almost feel

sorry for the Irish (not), as their program seems to be on a perpetual
skid.  
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From sjtruog at yahoo.com  Sun Sep  2 17:04:14 2007
From: sjtruog at yahoo.com (SjT (Stephen J. Truog))
Date: Sun Sep  2 16:59:53 2007
Subject: [NU Sports] Notre Dame
In-Reply-To: <d55.1224114f.340c3c07@aol.com>
Message-ID: <623845.5526.qm@web52906.mail.re2.yahoo.com>

> I don't know if the ASU upset was the biggest in
> history, but I almost feel  

I'm a bit surprised our 1995 win in South Bend wasn't
mentioned. I guess I wasn't surprised Musburger failed
to mention it while yakking up the ASU game during
Cal-Rocky Top ... but still, there were a lot of
similarities. ND was top 10, at home and in an opener
where they were huge, mega-huge favorites over a team
just about everyone considered a cupcake. ASU had come
off two I-AA titles at least, where NU was coming off
decades of nothingness.

Plus, looking back it was a pretty major turning point
in two programs. NU went on to capture 3 Big Ten
titles in six years and launched an era where Wildcat
football is no longer irrelevant and where fans expect
victory or at least to be able to compete in the Big
Ten.

And it remains a turning point where Notre Dame has
become somewhat irrelevant by their standards. In
1993, the Irish were essentially national champions,
having beaten champ FSU but fallen to BC and to the
"let's give po' ole Bobby a title" sympathy ... but
that 1995 opener marked the end of Lou Holtz' glory
years and the Irish have been struggling ever since.
Sure, their name and kind schedule have earned them a
few BCS bowls, but they have been soundly spanked in
those bowls and out of the title hunt by early October
pretty much every year.

Yesterday was a huge upset, but I wouldn't vault it to
the top right away. It reminded me a lot of Boise
State's win last year - a big upset to be sure and a
monumental win, but also a sense that this unbeaten
WAC team or two-time I-AA champ wasn't getting the
respect it felt it had earned. 

Northwestern had earned absolutely nothing heading in
to the land of Touchdown Jesus and the Golden Dome to
face a top 10 Notre Dame team on their network. But
the result, and the way we led wire to wire, was
something that absolutely astounded the rest of
America. It certainly deserves a place right up there
with ASU-UM.

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From Hakirsch at aol.com  Sun Sep  2 18:39:08 2007
From: Hakirsch at aol.com (Hakirsch@aol.com)
Date: Sun Sep  2 18:35:50 2007
Subject: [NU Sports] Notre Dame
Message-ID: <c97.17fd0f4b.340ca39c@aol.com>

In a message dated 9/2/2007 3:09:46 PM Pacific Daylight Time, 
sjtruog@yahoo.com writes:

> >I don't know if the ASU upset was the biggest in
> >history, but I almost feel  
> 
> I'm a bit surprised our 1995 win in South Bend wasn't
> mentioned. I guess I wasn't surprised Musburger failed
> to mention it while yakking up the ASU game during
> 

Here here !--Some excellent arguments !

I don't know  where our win over ND ranks, but in typical press fashion, they 
annoint the Michigan loss as the greatest ever--There are probably a good 
dozen games in the past 40 years  (since TV became a factor in the hype) that 
would probably rival both games mentioned


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From MHRJGScott at aol.com  Sun Sep  2 19:23:58 2007
From: MHRJGScott at aol.com (MHRJGScott@aol.com)
Date: Sun Sep  2 19:23:22 2007
Subject: [NU Sports] Notre Dame
Message-ID: <ce4.1a226346.340cae1e@aol.com>

There are probably a good 
dozen games in the past 40 years   (since TV became a factor in the hype) 
that 
would probably rival both games  mentioned


True, here in Orlando they say the 2000 UCF upset that got Alabama coach  
Mike Dubose fired was bigger.



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From rstetson at capps-assoc.com  Sun Sep  2 22:30:32 2007
From: rstetson at capps-assoc.com (Roy Lamberton)
Date: Sun Sep  2 22:19:43 2007
Subject: [NU Sports] Wow ...
In-Reply-To: <fcb3ee270709020809j312fcc3ehab801345b07bdcbc@mail.gmail.com>
References: <d1b.13098e69.340c1496@aol.com>
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Message-ID: <002201c7edda$c8f8caf0$5aea60d0$@com>

FWIW - NU has always played a rather basic D in their openers under Walker/Fitz.
Its usually good enuff to win while the coaches figure out who really deserves
to play a lot. I'm sure the film sessions were both painful and exciting Sunday,
and the Cats will be that much improved to exact some revenge on Nevada.

rsl

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> -----Original Message-----
> From: nwu-sports-bounces@tssi.com [mailto:nwu-sports-bounces@tssi.com] On
> Behalf Of Jonathan Hodges
> Sent: Sunday, September 02, 2007 11:09 AM
> To: WildElk2@aol.com
> Cc: nwu-sports@tssi.com
> Subject: Re: [NU Sports] Wow ...
> 
> The backups played well enough to preserve the shutout and not have any
> mistakes - which is somewhat encouraging.
> 
> Also, in the post-game press conference the coaches confirmed NU was
> playing
> a "vanilla" defense and didn't blitz much - and I hope some different
> packages moving forward would make the DL look better because yesterday
> they
> didn't get much pressure on their QB at all - and had no sacks.  Plus,
> whenever someone did break free from a block the QB eluded the pressure
> every time.
> 
> On offense the return of Rees should help immensely, but 3 sacks allowed
> plus holding penalties, plus little running room are not encouraging
> (although the passing game was running very well).
> 
> Jonathan
> 
> On 9/2/07, WildElk2@aol.com <WildElk2@aol.com> wrote:
> >
> >     FWIW, Phil Steele's pre-season magazine said that Michigan's defense
> > was going to be a problem this season, but I doubt PS thought it would
> kill
> > 'em in the first game...
> >    NU: I was surprised by the "average" performance on both sides of our
> > linemen, particularly on defense.  With that said, our linebackers were
> > filling holes and getting a lot of tackles; I'm sure PF was pleased about
> > that.  And Rees will be back next week; good thing mon!
> >
> >    I missed the 4th quarter due to prior arrangements.  Did our back-ups
> > play well?
> >
> >     GO CATS!!!!                 Eric
> >
> >
> >
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From johnl at mac.com  Mon Sep  3 00:06:04 2007
From: johnl at mac.com (John Labbe)
Date: Mon Sep  3 00:01:42 2007
Subject: [NU Sports] Notre Dame
In-Reply-To: <623845.5526.qm@web52906.mail.re2.yahoo.com>
References: <623845.5526.qm@web52906.mail.re2.yahoo.com>
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I actually did see our 1995 win at Notre Dame mentioned, I think during  
one of the ESPN shows.  They put up a list of the biggest  
season-opening upsets in recent college football history.  Our game was  
one of about 6 on the list and the commentators briefly discussed it.


On Sep 2, 2007, at 5:04 PM, SjT (Stephen J. Truog) wrote:

>> I don't know if the ASU upset was the biggest in
>> history, but I almost feel
>
> I'm a bit surprised our 1995 win in South Bend wasn't
> mentioned. I guess I wasn't surprised Musburger failed
> to mention it while yakking up the ASU game during
> Cal-Rocky Top ... but still, there were a lot of
> similarities. ND was top 10, at home and in an opener
> where they were huge, mega-huge favorites over a team
> just about everyone considered a cupcake. ASU had come
> off two I-AA titles at least, where NU was coming off
> decades of nothingness.
>
> Plus, looking back it was a pretty major turning point
> in two programs. NU went on to capture 3 Big Ten
> titles in six years and launched an era where Wildcat
> football is no longer irrelevant and where fans expect
> victory or at least to be able to compete in the Big
> Ten.
>
> And it remains a turning point where Notre Dame has
> become somewhat irrelevant by their standards. In
> 1993, the Irish were essentially national champions,
> having beaten champ FSU but fallen to BC and to the
> "let's give po' ole Bobby a title" sympathy ... but
> that 1995 opener marked the end of Lou Holtz' glory
> years and the Irish have been struggling ever since.
> Sure, their name and kind schedule have earned them a
> few BCS bowls, but they have been soundly spanked in
> those bowls and out of the title hunt by early October
> pretty much every year.
>
> Yesterday was a huge upset, but I wouldn't vault it to
> the top right away. It reminded me a lot of Boise
> State's win last year - a big upset to be sure and a
> monumental win, but also a sense that this unbeaten
> WAC team or two-time I-AA champ wasn't getting the
> respect it felt it had earned.
>
> Northwestern had earned absolutely nothing heading in
> to the land of Touchdown Jesus and the Golden Dome to
> face a top 10 Notre Dame team on their network. But
> the result, and the way we led wire to wire, was
> something that absolutely astounded the rest of
> America. It certainly deserves a place right up there
> with ASU-UM.
>
> GO CATS!!!
> -SjT
>
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From tbng at comcast.net  Mon Sep  3 09:12:46 2007
From: tbng at comcast.net (Dennis W. Brandt)
Date: Mon Sep  3 09:09:07 2007
Subject: [NU Sports] The Suin Times
References: <623845.5526.qm@web52906.mail.re2.yahoo.com>
	<f7def7adae043ee39e9020e3d82cdc62@mac.com>
Message-ID: <000301c7ee34$80d6cf60$c402a8c0@DennisMachine>

>From the Chicago Sun Times brief story on the Wildcats' win: 
"Northwestern's defense held Northeastern to 260 yards while cornerback 
Sherri McManis led the Wildcats with 10 tackles."

I'll be she's a hit in the locker room. 

From rstetson at capps-assoc.com  Mon Sep  3 12:21:31 2007
From: rstetson at capps-assoc.com (Roy Lamberton)
Date: Mon Sep  3 12:10:37 2007
Subject: [NU Sports] The Suin Times
In-Reply-To: <000301c7ee34$80d6cf60$c402a8c0@DennisMachine>
References: <623845.5526.qm@web52906.mail.re2.yahoo.com>	<f7def7adae043ee39e9020e3d82cdc62@mac.com>
	<000301c7ee34$80d6cf60$c402a8c0@DennisMachine>
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I wonder if they'll deny them credentials because they mis-spelled a players
name?

rsl

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> -----Original Message-----
> From: nwu-sports-bounces@tssi.com [mailto:nwu-sports-bounces@tssi.com] On
> Behalf Of Dennis W. Brandt
> Sent: Monday, September 03, 2007 10:13 AM
> To: nwu-sports@tssi.com
> Subject: [NU Sports] The Suin Times
> 
> >From the Chicago Sun Times brief story on the Wildcats' win:
> "Northwestern's defense held Northeastern to 260 yards while cornerback
> Sherri McManis led the Wildcats with 10 tackles."
> 
> I'll be she's a hit in the locker room.
> 
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From jonathanwhodges at gmail.com  Mon Sep  3 12:45:02 2007
From: jonathanwhodges at gmail.com (Jonathan Hodges)
Date: Mon Sep  3 12:41:36 2007
Subject: [NU Sports] The Suin Times
In-Reply-To: <002a01c7ee4e$df0e3ae0$9d2ab0a0$@com>
References: <623845.5526.qm@web52906.mail.re2.yahoo.com>
	<f7def7adae043ee39e9020e3d82cdc62@mac.com>
	<000301c7ee34$80d6cf60$c402a8c0@DennisMachine>
	<002a01c7ee4e$df0e3ae0$9d2ab0a0$@com>
Message-ID: <fcb3ee270709031045k2a0932e4g917107b0b13f4c31@mail.gmail.com>

Well, apparently the uniform makers may get denied credentials as well since
Corey Wootton's name was misspelled on his jersey on Saturday as "Wootten."

Jonathan

On 9/3/07, Roy Lamberton <rstetson@capps-assoc.com> wrote:
>
> I wonder if they'll deny them credentials because they mis-spelled a
> players
> name?
>
> rsl
>
> ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
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> The Scout.com Northwestern University Site
> (http://www.purplewildcats.com)
> AIM Handle: CoachRoy74
> ======== Go Cats -  Beat 'em All ===========
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>      If you can keep it" - Benjamin Franklin
> ============================================
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: nwu-sports-bounces@tssi.com [mailto:nwu-sports-bounces@tssi.com]
> On
> > Behalf Of Dennis W. Brandt
> > Sent: Monday, September 03, 2007 10:13 AM
> > To: nwu-sports@tssi.com
> > Subject: [NU Sports] The Suin Times
> >
> > >From the Chicago Sun Times brief story on the Wildcats' win:
> > "Northwestern's defense held Northeastern to 260 yards while cornerback
> > Sherri McManis led the Wildcats with 10 tackles."
> >
> > I'll be she's a hit in the locker room.
> >
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From bwdolphin146 at yahoo.com  Mon Sep  3 13:08:42 2007
From: bwdolphin146 at yahoo.com (Brad Wilson)
Date: Mon Sep  3 13:04:16 2007
Subject: [NU Sports] 3 biggest non-ASU-Mich upsets of my lifetime
Message-ID: <585188.27232.qm@web51302.mail.re2.yahoo.com>

1998 Temple over Virginia Tech
1995 NU over Notre Dame (a day that will live
forever!)
1983 Cincinnati over Penn State

CFB.com's Pete Fiutak makes the point that the '98
Temple team was much worse than '07 ASU. True, but
VaTech, as good as they have been, is not Michigan.

bw


       
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From Hakirsch at aol.com  Mon Sep  3 13:13:21 2007
From: Hakirsch at aol.com (Hakirsch@aol.com)
Date: Mon Sep  3 13:10:09 2007
Subject: [NU Sports] 3 biggest non-ASU-Mich upsets of my lifetime
Message-ID: <d13.f940a3d.340da8c1@aol.com>

While not nearly as much on the point spread, the 1969 upset of Ohio State by 
Michigan (24-12)in Bo's first year as head coach,  was a key turning point in 
college football--Not only did it knock off the Bucks as #1 on a 20 or so 
game winning streak, but it established the  OSU/Mich game  as the #1 rivalry in 
college football


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From sjtruog at yahoo.com  Mon Sep  3 15:51:33 2007
From: sjtruog at yahoo.com (SjT (Stephen J. Truog))
Date: Mon Sep  3 15:47:10 2007
Subject: [NU Sports] PIGSKIN PICKS - Week 2
Message-ID: <11026.85673.qm@web52905.mail.re2.yahoo.com>

With the game tonight, standings may not come out
until week 2. However, the taste of first-week
football always leaves one wanting more ... well,
except in Ann Arbor:) ... so here's the week 2 lineup.

All picks due by kickoff on Saturday.

PIGSKIN PICKS - WEEK 2
######################
Name: 

BIG TEN
=======
GAME  1: Western Illinois @ Illinois
WINNER: 

GAME  2: Indiana @ Western Michigan
WINNER: 

GAME  3: Syracuse @ Iowa
WINNER: 

GAME  4: Oregon @ Michigan
WINNER: 

GAME  5: Bowling Green @ Michigan State
WINNER: 

GAME  6: Miami (OH) @ Minnesota
WINNER: 

GAME  7: Akron @ Ohio State
WINNER: 

GAME  8: Notre Dame @ Penn State
WINNER: 

GAME  9: Eastern Illinois @ Purdue
WINNER: 

GAME 10: Wisconsin @ UNLV
WINNER: 

NATIONAL
========
GAME 11: Virginia Tech @ LSU
WINNER: 

GAME 12: Miami (FL) @ Oklahoma
WINNER: 

GAME 13: South Carolina @ Georgia
WINNER: 

GAME 14: TCU @ Texas
WINNER: 

GAME 15: Colorado @ Arizona State
WINNER: 

MY PICKS
========
* ILLINOIS 45, Western Illinois 10
C: The Illini gave one away last week and rebound here
in explosive fashion at home

* INDIANA 37, Western Michigan 17
C: The Hoosiers were a focused group last week and
continue to roll on the road

* IOWA 28, Syracuse 0
C: As Washington showed last week, the Cuse is a big
opponent in name only these days

* MICHIGAN 35, Oregon 13
C: Tough call here - Big Blue will either bounce back
big or pack it in and start 0-2 ... Oregon's spread
will attack Michigan as ASU did, and Chad Henne looked
awful last week - but Michigan rebounds here

* MICHIGAN STATE 31, Bowling Green 21
C: The Spartans impressed last week and it won't be as
big a margin this week, but they comfortably win again
- maybe I should have swapped Sparty and Minny on the
preseason predicitions

* MINNESOTA 42, Miami 14
C: The Gophers slept through the first half last week
and it cost them - they play a full game here

* OHIO STATE 38, Akron 7
C: Another unimpressive but solid win for Bucky

* PENN STATE 41, Notre Dame 10
C: JoePa gets his revenge on Weis running it up last
year in a jubilant and wild Beaver Stadium

* PURDUE 45, Eastern Illinois 20
C: The Boilers continue to outscore opponents

* WISCONSIN 37, Nevada-Las Vegas 10
C: The Badgers tighten up the D a bit and continue to
roll on offense as the Cheeseheads head to the casinos
early here - this one's over at half

* LSU 34, Virginia Tech 7
C: The Hokies looked overrated last week and are
exposed as pretenders -- night games in Baton Rouge
are just about as brutal for opponents as ones in
Blacksburg

* OKLAHOMA 55, Miami 3
C: This one used to be a good matchup - maybe folks
will start to lay off the Big Ten and bash the ACC
after these two ouch-babe games

* GEORGIA 23, South Carolina 20
C: Spurrier comes up just short again - one of these
days he'll pull the upset, but not yet

* TEXAS 31, Texas Christian 17
C: Were the Horns playing possum last week? They'll be
better here, but still not look dominant as the Frogs
are a formidable foe

* ARIZONA STATE 41, Colorado 21
C: The Sun Devils are quietly going to rack up the
wins against their soft early schedule this year and
if they fill some holes on D, could be a Pac 10
spoiler surprise at the end

And off the board ...

* NORTHWESTERN 31, Nevada 21
C: The competition steps up for the Cats this week,
but if CJ stays hot and the running game gets going
with Rees' return, the Cats should pull away in the
second half to get some revenge on the Wolfpack

Picks due by kickoff!
GO CATS!!!
-SjT

* * * * * * * * *
STEPHEN J. TRUOG
sjtruog@yahoo.com
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From jonathanwhodges at gmail.com  Tue Sep  4 08:05:11 2007
From: jonathanwhodges at gmail.com (Jonathan Hodges)
Date: Tue Sep  4 08:01:42 2007
Subject: [NU Sports] PIGSKIN PICKS - Week 2
In-Reply-To: <11026.85673.qm@web52905.mail.re2.yahoo.com>
References: <11026.85673.qm@web52905.mail.re2.yahoo.com>
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>
> PIGSKIN PICKS - WEEK 2
> ######################
> Name: Jonathan Hodges
>
> BIG TEN
> =======
> GAME  1: Western Illinois @ Illinois
> WINNER: Illinois
>
> GAME  2: Indiana @ Western Michigan
> WINNER: Western Michigan
>
> GAME  3: Syracuse @ Iowa
> WINNER: Iowa
>
> GAME  4: Oregon @ Michigan
> WINNER: Michigan
>
> GAME  5: Bowling Green @ Michigan State
> WINNER: Michigan State
>
> GAME  6: Miami (OH) @ Minnesota
> WINNER: Minnesota
>
> GAME  7: Akron @ Ohio State
> WINNER: Ohio State
>
> GAME  8: Notre Dame @ Penn State
> WINNER: Penn State
>
> GAME  9: Eastern Illinois @ Purdue
> WINNER: Purdue
>
> GAME 10: Wisconsin @ UNLV
> WINNER: Wisconsin
>
> NATIONAL
> ========
> GAME 11: Virginia Tech @ LSU
> WINNER: LSU
>
> GAME 12: Miami (FL) @ Oklahoma
> WINNER: Oklahoma
>
> GAME 13: South Carolina @ Georgia
> WINNER: Georgia
>
> GAME 14: TCU @ Texas
> WINNER: TCU
>
> GAME 15: Colorado @ Arizona State
> WINNER: Arizona State
>
>
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Evanston, IL  60201-3577
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From Alan.Abrahamson at nbcsports.com  Tue Sep  4 15:55:14 2007
From: Alan.Abrahamson at nbcsports.com (Abrahamson, Alan (NBC Universal))
Date: Tue Sep  4 15:51:47 2007
Subject: [NU Sports] Buckeyes
Message-ID: <33C4F11DF8639640A51C79CB484166FF031D1FE3@RKFMLVEM02.e2k.ad.ge.com>

After the Northeastern shutout, I gathered my three children about and
decreed that if Northwestern defeats Ohio State on Sept. 22 I would
declare a school holiday.
That next Monday, the 24th, each of them would be excused from school
and we would proceed to Disneyland, I said.
I also announced that in the event of a Northwestern victory I would be
only too glad to walk directly into the principal's office and explain
to her why, exactly, I was yanking my three children out of school for
the day.
This occasioned much glee.
The glee was dampened, of course, when I allowed as the Wildcats have
defeated the Buckeyes only twice in my lifetime. However, since I am an
Ohio native and was in attendance on both occasions (Columbus, 1971;
Evanston, 2004), I reminded the children that I was therefore an expert
on the subject of Wildcat victories over the Buckeyes. And if
Appalachian State could rise up and smite Michigan, the time had come to
expect victory in Columbus, I told them, as idiotic as that might appear
to those more reasonable. Like their mother, who went to Berkeley, and
who fully expects the children to be in school, as usual, on the 24th.
 By the way, speaking of rising up and doing the smite thing, the game
on the 22nd is problematic. It's Yom Kippur. All suggestions, advice,
direction about whether or not to wear purple to the synagogue that
morning: of course welcome. As well as whether I should furtively check
the score during services.
 Also welcome: advice, suggestion, direction about tickets to the
Wildcats-Buckeyes game. Not for me. (!) High school friends of mine in
Dayton who are fundamentally decent people, if adherents of the state
religion of Ohio, Buckeye Football, looking for two. Top row of the Shoe
OK. They just want to get in. Face value, of course ...
 Purple to Pasadena!
 Alan
  
From eschoeman at sbcglobal.net  Tue Sep  4 16:16:12 2007
From: eschoeman at sbcglobal.net (Evans Schoeman)
Date: Tue Sep  4 16:11:43 2007
Subject: [NU Sports] Michigan and the Polls
Message-ID: <001b01c7ef38$d325def0$220110ac@OFFICEDESKTOP2>

According to the AP, prior to Michigan's dropping out of the polls from #5,
the biggest fall was Notre Dame's falling from #9 to #25 after losing to NU
in 1995.

So we have been mentioned among history's major upsets!

 

From Alan.Abrahamson at nbcsports.com  Tue Sep  4 16:26:25 2007
From: Alan.Abrahamson at nbcsports.com (Abrahamson, Alan (NBC Universal))
Date: Tue Sep  4 16:24:04 2007
Subject: [NU Sports] Michigan and the Polls
In-Reply-To: <001b01c7ef38$d325def0$220110ac@OFFICEDESKTOP2>
References: <001b01c7ef38$d325def0$220110ac@OFFICEDESKTOP2>
Message-ID: <33C4F11DF8639640A51C79CB484166FF031D1FEB@RKFMLVEM02.e2k.ad.ge.com>


 See www.laketheposts.com for an excellent recitation of why the 1995
17-15 glorious Northwestern victory may well be the upset of all time.
 
  

-----Original Message-----
From: nwu-sports-bounces@tssi.com [mailto:nwu-sports-bounces@tssi.com]
On Behalf Of Evans Schoeman
Sent: Tuesday, September 04, 2007 2:16 PM
To: nwu-sports@romaine.tssi.com
Subject: [NU Sports] Michigan and the Polls

According to the AP, prior to Michigan's dropping out of the polls from
#5, the biggest fall was Notre Dame's falling from #9 to #25 after
losing to NU in 1995.

So we have been mentioned among history's major upsets!

 

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From MHRJGScott at aol.com  Tue Sep  4 16:28:58 2007
From: MHRJGScott at aol.com (MHRJGScott@aol.com)
Date: Tue Sep  4 16:28:15 2007
Subject: [NU Sports] Buckeyes
Message-ID: <c49.19effdae.340f281a@aol.com>

Good story. reminds me of 1959 when I was 10 and my dad got tickets for  game 
one of the sox - dodgers world series and my mother called up Sister Mary  
(my principal) and told her I was going to be absent from school as I was going  
to the game. The Sister said she understood, and asked my mother if she had  
an extra ticket. As for your Berkeley trained wife, tell her you are taking  
them to protest the treatment of native Americans in adventure  land at 
Disneyland.  
As far as the CATS! game I think it depends on your synagogue,  orthodox - 
no, conservative - maybe,  reform -  absolutely.



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From tbng at comcast.net  Tue Sep  4 17:01:39 2007
From: tbng at comcast.net (Dennis W. Brandt)
Date: Tue Sep  4 16:57:56 2007
Subject: [NU Sports] Scott Graham
References: <001b01c7ef38$d325def0$220110ac@OFFICEDESKTOP2>
	<33C4F11DF8639640A51C79CB484166FF031D1FEB@RKFMLVEM02.e2k.ad.ge.com>
Message-ID: <000901c7ef3f$2bc7c900$c402a8c0@DennisMachine>

For all of you poor folks who do not live in Pennsylvania, Scott Graham was 
the longtime radio voice of the Philadelphia Phillies as well as other 
Philadelphia area sports broadcasts.  His voice was missing this season, but 
he showed up doing the Cats.  That was good for me:  A familiar team with a 
familiar voice.  Lake the Post is right, though.  Derrick Walker was 
basically a waste of time. 

From WildElk2 at aol.com  Tue Sep  4 21:45:30 2007
From: WildElk2 at aol.com (WildElk2@aol.com)
Date: Tue Sep  4 21:44:48 2007
Subject: [NU Sports] Cuts
Message-ID: <d0f.10a8a2f1.340f724a@aol.com>

Bummer. Nick Roach and matt Ulrich were cut, by SD and  Indianapolis .  I 
checked Cleveland's website which shows Jason wright on  their roster.   Any 
other word from our past greats?
 
    go cats          Eric



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From WildElk2 at aol.com  Tue Sep  4 21:50:11 2007
From: WildElk2 at aol.com (WildElk2@aol.com)
Date: Tue Sep  4 21:49:32 2007
Subject: [NU Sports] More NFL roster news
Message-ID: <cf1.195cb6a0.340f7363@aol.com>

Tim McGarigle is on St. Louis' active roster.   Noah  Herron is on injured 
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From prplehaze at insightbb.com  Tue Sep  4 23:09:06 2007
From: prplehaze at insightbb.com (Mark Ament)
Date: Tue Sep  4 23:05:57 2007
Subject: [NU Sports] More NFL roster news
In-Reply-To: <cf1.195cb6a0.340f7363@aol.com>
Message-ID: <000901c7ef72$80a86be0$6900a8c0@PC244461808863>

Napoleon Harris is the starting Middle Linebacker for the Chiefs, of course.

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Tim McGarigle is on St. Louis' active roster.   Noah  Herron is on injured 
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From rstetson at capps-assoc.com  Wed Sep  5 06:36:45 2007
From: rstetson at capps-assoc.com (Roy Lamberton)
Date: Wed Sep  5 06:25:41 2007
Subject: [NU Sports] Cuts
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Scout's NFL Alum list is up to date. You can find it at

http://northwestern.scout.com/a.z?s=179&p=8&c=2&nid=83&csid=127389&yr=2007

rsl

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> -----Original Message-----
> From: nwu-sports-bounces@tssi.com [mailto:nwu-sports-bounces@tssi.com] On
> Behalf Of WildElk2@aol.com
> Sent: Tuesday, September 04, 2007 10:46 PM
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> Subject: [NU Sports] Cuts
> 
> Bummer. Nick Roach and matt Ulrich were cut, by SD and  Indianapolis .  I
> checked Cleveland's website which shows Jason wright on  their roster.
> Any
> other word from our past greats?
> 
>     go cats          Eric
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From rstetson at capps-assoc.com  Wed Sep  5 06:46:27 2007
From: rstetson at capps-assoc.com (Roy Lamberton)
Date: Wed Sep  5 06:35:19 2007
Subject: [NU Sports] More NFL roster news
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Barry Cofield is still with the Giants - he's a major player in their new 4-3
defense which has him in the A gap instead of on the center.

Ike Ndukwe is on the Raven's Practice Squad - I missed him moving over there
from the Skins. The Ravens have a lot of questions about their O-Line, Ndukwe
could be on the big club soon.

The media that follows the Colts were surprised that Ulrich got cut - he could
turn up on another team quickly.

I guess I need to do an omnibus story on the alums now that the cuts are in -
its just that I suspect that some of the more experienced guys who were cut will
turn up elsewhere in a week or two

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> 
> Napoleon Harris is the starting Middle Linebacker for the Chiefs, of
> course.
> 
> 
> SportsBiz - The Business of Sports Illuminated
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> Tim McGarigle is on St. Louis' active roster.   Noah  Herron is on injured
> reserve.(Green Bay)      ek
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From HUDHAIFA3 at aol.com  Wed Sep  5 07:52:42 2007
From: HUDHAIFA3 at aol.com (HUDHAIFA3@aol.com)
Date: Wed Sep  5 07:52:09 2007
Subject: [NU Sports] More NFL roster news
Message-ID: <c2c.19fe25c7.3410009a@aol.com>

I actually went to the STL-KC game and Tim M had an interception on the  goal 
line not to mention it was like his Northwestern days, he was in on every  
tackle.



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From thiegs at umn.edu  Wed Sep  5 14:30:48 2007
From: thiegs at umn.edu (Joe Thiegs)
Date: Wed Sep  5 14:30:02 2007
Subject: [NU Sports] Happy Thought for the Day
Message-ID: <004901c7eff3$434d9dc0$fb326580@mnfound.umn.edu>

Just a mid-week happy thought:
 
Statistically, the top four scoring defenses in FBS college football today
are LSU, Penn State, TCU, and . . . NU.
 
Now, let's see if we can keep that up for another few months!  :)  Didn't
'95 team boast the best scoring defense in the nation at the end of the
regular season that year?
 
BTW, I deplore the term "scoring defense" used as a measure of fewest points
allowed by a team.  I think that term should be used to rank instead the
most points caused or scored by defensive units (i.e., interceptions
returned for touchdowns, fumble recoveries and returns for touchdowns,
safeties, etc.).  Why can't the statisticians simply use "points yielded" or
"points allowed," which would be both more accurate and shorter (15
characters for "scoring defense" vs. 14 characters for "points yielded" or
"points allowed")?  No need for the word "fewest" or "least" before the term
because it is logical that a lower number is better for that statistic and,
accordingly, teams should be ranked on their averages from lowest to
highest.  Similarly, there probably is no need for "average" or "per game"
clarification because it should be obvious from the numbers (or at least as
obvious as with the term "scoring defense").  Thank you for allowing a forum
to voice this pet peeve.  Back to the happy thoughts.
 
-Joe
 
 
From tbng at comcast.net  Wed Sep  5 15:57:08 2007
From: tbng at comcast.net (Dennis W. Brandt)
Date: Wed Sep  5 15:53:22 2007
Subject: [NU Sports] Low scorers
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> Didn't '95 team boast the best scoring defense in the nation at the end of 
> the
> regular season that year?

Second best.  Toledo was first. 


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From thehaze at earthlink.net  Wed Sep  5 21:04:38 2007
From: thehaze at earthlink.net (Jim Bendat)
Date: Wed Sep  5 21:00:02 2007
Subject: [NU Sports] Happy Thought for the Day
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Joe's writing about "scoring defense" caused me to remember a stat from 
my NU days.  In 1970, our basketball team finished 0-14 in the Big Ten.  
Yet, our Sports Information Office made sure that the public was aware 
that we led the Big Ten in "Free Throw Defense" !!!!  No, I am not 
making that one up.

Jim B.


Joe Thiegs wrote:
> BTW, I deplore the term "scoring defense" used as a measure of fewest points
> allowed by a team.  

From mlinhardt at netzero.net  Thu Sep  6 06:44:34 2007
From: mlinhardt at netzero.net (mlinhardt@netzero.net)
Date: Thu Sep  6 06:42:05 2007
Subject: [NU Sports] Happy Thought for the Day
Message-ID: <20070906.064434.21760.0@webmail06.dca.untd.com>

Only 14 big ten games.  Strange.

I don't recall if it was during our tenure('89-'93) or right after, but I recall the stat announced that we were the first Big Ten team to go 0-16 in conference play.

Looks like beautiful weather for Saturday -- chance for rain tapering off before kickoff with low to mid-70s and a light breeze with some humidity.

-- Jim Bendat <thehaze@earthlink.net> wrote:
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From cyrilku at yahoo.com  Thu Sep  6 20:42:26 2007
From: cyrilku at yahoo.com (Cyril S. Ku)
Date: Thu Sep  6 20:37:45 2007
Subject: [NU Sports] Dish Network adds Big Ten Network
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Message-ID: <734690.70123.qm@web53302.mail.re2.yahoo.com>

I have been emailing to Dish Network, ashing for B10
Network many times. Everytime they just gave me a
polite answer. I finally switched to DirecTV so I
could catch our season opener. Now Dish Network adds
B10 Network. I guess my emails worked after all.

http://nusports.cstv.com/genrel/090607aad.html

Cyril Ku

--- "SjT (Stephen J. Truog)" <sjtruog@yahoo.com>
wrote:

> 
> And let your cable company know that you switched
> because they wouldn't carry BTN - if enough people
> start leaving or threatening to leave, they'll work
> out a deal in a hurry!
> 
> GO CATS!!!
> -SjT
> 



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From wseliger at aol.com  Thu Sep  6 21:07:57 2007
From: wseliger at aol.com (wseliger@aol.com)
Date: Thu Sep  6 21:07:02 2007
Subject: [NU Sports] Dish Network adds Big Ten Network
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I have Dish and I walked into the next room, turned on the TV, went to 439 and it's there.? Awesome!

Did any other listers see themselves singing "Go U" on the scoeboard?? They recorded this at the "Meet the Team" night.? There are a few ugly modulations (what's a few half steps between friends), but overall I think it's?pretty cool.?

GO CATS!


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Subject: [NU Sports] Dish Network adds Big Ten Network



I have been emailing to Dish Network, ashing for B10
Network many times. Everytime they just gave me a
polite answer. I finally switched to DirecTV so I
could catch our season opener. Now Dish Network adds
B10 Network. I guess my emails worked after all.

http://nusports.cstv.com/genrel/090607aad.html

Cyril Ku

--- "SjT (Stephen J. Truog)" <sjtruog@yahoo.com>
wrote:

> 
> And let your cable company know that you switched
> because they wouldn't carry BTN - if enough people
> start leaving or threatening to leave, they'll work
> out a deal in a hurry!
> 
> GO CATS!!!
> -SjT
> 



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From johnadeg at comcast.net  Fri Sep  7 13:14:42 2007
From: johnadeg at comcast.net (johnadeg@comcast.net)
Date: Fri Sep  7 13:10:36 2007
Subject: [NU Sports] Dish Network adds Big Ten Network
Message-ID: <090720071814.9831.46E1951200026202000026672215593414090A0B0E02080106@comcast.net>

I thought  that I saw a Comcast TV ad saying that they were going to offer  the Big Ten channel(s).  My guess is that at least in Pennsylvania, they were losing a lot of customers to Direct TV and now  to Dish.

John DeGroat
 -------------- Original message ----------------------
From: wseliger@aol.com
> I have Dish and I walked into the next room, turned on the TV, went to 439 and 
> it's there.? Awesome!
> 
> Did any other listers see themselves singing "Go U" on the scoeboard?? They 
> recorded this at the "Meet the Team" night.? There are a few ugly modulations 
> (what's a few half steps between friends), but overall I think it's?pretty 
> cool.?
> 
> GO CATS!
> 
> 
> - Bill Seliger, CPIM, CSCP
> wseliger@aol.com
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Cyril S. Ku <cyrilku@yahoo.com>
> To: SjT (Stephen J. Truog) <sjtruog@yahoo.com>; nwu-sports@tssi.com
> Sent: Thu, 6 Sep 2007 8:42 pm
> Subject: [NU Sports] Dish Network adds Big Ten Network
> 
> 
> 
> I have been emailing to Dish Network, ashing for B10
> Network many times. Everytime they just gave me a
> polite answer. I finally switched to DirecTV so I
> could catch our season opener. Now Dish Network adds
> B10 Network. I guess my emails worked after all.
> 
> http://nusports.cstv.com/genrel/090607aad.html
> 
> Cyril Ku
> 
> --- "SjT (Stephen J. Truog)" <sjtruog@yahoo.com>
> wrote:
> 
> > 
> > And let your cable company know that you switched
> > because they wouldn't carry BTN - if enough people
> > start leaving or threatening to leave, they'll work
> > out a deal in a hurry!
> > 
> > GO CATS!!!
> > -SjT
> > 
> 
> 
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From s.fridley at comcast.net  Fri Sep  7 13:54:56 2007
From: s.fridley at comcast.net (s.fridley@comcast.net)
Date: Fri Sep  7 13:50:50 2007
Subject: [NU Sports] Dish Network adds Big Ten Network
Message-ID: <090720071854.29377.46E19E80000D58CD000072C12207003201970A040B079D00D29C@comcast.net>

You probably saw a Comcast ad stating how many Big Ten games they'd be carrying - games shown on ABC, ESPN, and ESPN2, that is -- not any of the games on the Big Ten network.  It seems they're feeling the heat a bit.

 -------------- Original message ----------------------
From: johnadeg@comcast.net
> I thought  that I saw a Comcast TV ad saying that they were going to offer  the 
> Big Ten channel(s).  My guess is that at least in Pennsylvania, they were losing 
> a lot of customers to Direct TV and now  to Dish.
> 
> John DeGroat
>  -------------- Original message ----------------------
> From: wseliger@aol.com
> > I have Dish and I walked into the next room, turned on the TV, went to 439 and 
> > it's there.? Awesome!
> > 
> > Did any other listers see themselves singing "Go U" on the scoeboard?? They 
> > recorded this at the "Meet the Team" night.? There are a few ugly modulations 
> > (what's a few half steps between friends), but overall I think it's?pretty 
> > cool.?
> > 
> > GO CATS!
> > 
> > 
> > - Bill Seliger, CPIM, CSCP
> > wseliger@aol.com
> > 
> > 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Cyril S. Ku <cyrilku@yahoo.com>
> > To: SjT (Stephen J. Truog) <sjtruog@yahoo.com>; nwu-sports@tssi.com
> > Sent: Thu, 6 Sep 2007 8:42 pm
> > Subject: [NU Sports] Dish Network adds Big Ten Network
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > I have been emailing to Dish Network, ashing for B10
> > Network many times. Everytime they just gave me a
> > polite answer. I finally switched to DirecTV so I
> > could catch our season opener. Now Dish Network adds
> > B10 Network. I guess my emails worked after all.
> > 
> > http://nusports.cstv.com/genrel/090607aad.html
> > 
> > Cyril Ku
> > 
> > --- "SjT (Stephen J. Truog)" <sjtruog@yahoo.com>
> > wrote:
> > 
> > > 
> > > And let your cable company know that you switched
> > > because they wouldn't carry BTN - if enough people
> > > start leaving or threatening to leave, they'll work
> > > out a deal in a hurry!
> > > 
> > > GO CATS!!!
> > > -SjT
> > > 
> > 
> > 
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From thiegs at umn.edu  Fri Sep  7 14:34:20 2007
From: thiegs at umn.edu (Joe Thiegs)
Date: Fri Sep  7 14:33:20 2007
Subject: [NU Sports] Dish Network adds Big Ten Network
In-Reply-To: <734690.70123.qm@web53302.mail.re2.yahoo.com>
References: <433016.14468.qm@web52905.mail.re2.yahoo.com>
	<734690.70123.qm@web53302.mail.re2.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <007001c7f186$166073c0$fb326580@mnfound.umn.edu>

Woo-hoo!  Great news!  I get to see the 'Cats this weekend!  I have been
e-mailing and calling and signing lists for months, so I'm exceedingly happy
to see an agreement.  I was just asking myself--out loud in front of my
wife--how long I could hold out.  She offered the following thought: "Just
think of all of the time you'll save not being able to watch all of those
games" (only half-teasing). My reply: "Thanks a lot." Well, now I guess I'll
have to change my plans for all of that extra time I was going to have!  :)

-Joe

-----Original Message-----
From: nwu-sports-bounces@tssi.com [mailto:nwu-sports-bounces@tssi.com] On
Behalf Of Cyril S. Ku
Sent: Thursday, September 06, 2007 8:42 PM
To: SjT (Stephen J. Truog); nwu-sports@tssi.com
Subject: [NU Sports] Dish Network adds Big Ten Network

I have been emailing to Dish Network, ashing for B10
Network many times. Everytime they just gave me a
polite answer. I finally switched to DirecTV so I
could catch our season opener. Now Dish Network adds
B10 Network. I guess my emails worked after all.

http://nusports.cstv.com/genrel/090607aad.html

Cyril Ku

--- "SjT (Stephen J. Truog)" <sjtruog@yahoo.com>
wrote:

> 
> And let your cable company know that you switched
> because they wouldn't carry BTN - if enough people
> start leaving or threatening to leave, they'll work
> out a deal in a hurry!
> 
> GO CATS!!!
> -SjT
> 



 
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From WildElk2 at aol.com  Fri Sep  7 17:41:51 2007
From: WildElk2 at aol.com (WildElk2@aol.com)
Date: Fri Sep  7 17:41:00 2007
Subject: [NU Sports] Nevada
Message-ID: <bf2.1efc417f.34132daf@aol.com>

Tomorrow, we'll see if we learned anything.  Encouraging  was no turnovers 
and a limited number of penalties, which represents an  about-face from last 
year.  As we know,  take away a few turnovers in  last year's Nevada game, and we 
win.
   I'm looking for a situation where turnovers and penalties  cause Nevada to 
self-destruct, as they're breaking in a few new skilled-position  players, 
including QB. Kind of a "flip" game where Nevada won and went, what,  8-4?
   I'm anxious to see how the Cats handle LB Butler; one of those  kind with 
NFL potential. Having Rees back will allow everyone to play in their  usual 
positions. Look for Tyrell to bust a few big ones.
   On the other side of the line, can our highly touted defensive  line turn 
in more than an "average" performance?  Nevada mustered only 3  points on 
offense in their 10-52 beat-down. Let's hope we can employ some of the  same 
methods as Nebraska did.
  Intangibles-  This is a definite circle game for  Northwestern. In the last 
few seasons, we've had 2 occasions to administer  payback to good (not great) 
non-conference teams after being waffled the year  before at their house; I'm 
referring to Air Force in 2003 and Arizona St. in  2004.  On both occasions 
we played much better, but came up just short. The  Air Force game was one that 
really got away.
   I don't see this happening as I predict we'll win the turnover  battle as 
well as Tyrell having a huge afternoon.
Let's get 2006 further in the headlights; a flip from last year:  
Northwestern 31 Nevada 21.
 
     GO  CATS!!!              Eric



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From artmiller1 at hotmail.com  Fri Sep  7 19:12:33 2007
From: artmiller1 at hotmail.com (Arthur Miller)
Date: Fri Sep  7 19:07:52 2007
Subject: [NU Sports] Nevada
In-Reply-To: <bf2.1efc417f.34132daf@aol.com>
Message-ID: <BAY106-DAV9E1BA8336A78966A1EE428AC60@phx.gbl>

Eric, I believe you're mistaken about the sequence of events in the Arizona
State series.  In 2004 we fought hard but came up short, 30-21, against a
good ASU team in Evanston.  It was the year after that (2005) when the Cats
went to Tempe and got rolled 52-21.

I agree with your thinking, however, that the Cats' performance tomorrow
will be key in determining the fate of this season.  We need to take this
game, period.

Regards-
Art

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Sent: Friday, September 07, 2007 5:42 PM
To: nwu-sports@tssi.com
Subject: [NU Sports] Nevada


Tomorrow, we'll see if we learned anything.  Encouraging  was no turnovers 
and a limited number of penalties, which represents an  about-face from last

year.  As we know,  take away a few turnovers in  last year's Nevada game,
and we 
win.
   I'm looking for a situation where turnovers and penalties  cause Nevada
to 
self-destruct, as they're breaking in a few new skilled-position  players, 
including QB. Kind of a "flip" game where Nevada won and went, what,  8-4?
   I'm anxious to see how the Cats handle LB Butler; one of those  kind with

NFL potential. Having Rees back will allow everyone to play in their  usual 
positions. Look for Tyrell to bust a few big ones.
   On the other side of the line, can our highly touted defensive  line turn

in more than an "average" performance?  Nevada mustered only 3  points on 
offense in their 10-52 beat-down. Let's hope we can employ some of the  same

methods as Nebraska did.
  Intangibles-  This is a definite circle game for  Northwestern. In the
last 
few seasons, we've had 2 occasions to administer  payback to good (not
great) 
non-conference teams after being waffled the year  before at their house;
I'm 
referring to Air Force in 2003 and Arizona St. in  2004.  On both occasions 
we played much better, but came up just short. The  Air Force game was one
that 
really got away.
   I don't see this happening as I predict we'll win the turnover  battle as

well as Tyrell having a huge afternoon.
Let's get 2006 further in the headlights; a flip from last year:  
Northwestern 31 Nevada 21.
 
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From tbng at comcast.net  Fri Sep  7 21:10:59 2007
From: tbng at comcast.net (Dennis W. Brandt)
Date: Fri Sep  7 21:07:04 2007
Subject: [NU Sports] Nevada
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>  We need to take this game, period.

We need to take this game soundly.  No OT, no close finish.  Control the 
game throughout.  Ohio State is only two weeks away. 


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Date: Fri Sep  7 23:21:25 2007
Subject: [NU Sports] Nevada
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This game could propel team to a really good season, or inject doubt into the locker room and the coaching offices.? If we win, we show we know how to defend home turf against a worthy opponent, whom we owe one to.? If we lose, then how good will we be, since we will have proven nothing with last week's win?? This is a stepping stone game for Fitz.? All of the motivational factors and intangibles favor NU, and it is a game we really need, if we are to be bowl-worthy and take step into the upper half of the conference.? Wish I could be there, instead of 900 miles away.....?Wouldn't it be loverly to open with 3 non-conf wins.....



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Subject: Fwd: [NU Sports] Nevada
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In a message dated 9/7/2007 10:30:36 PM Pacific Daylight Time, Hakirsch 
writes:

> >> We need to take this game, period.
>> 
>> We need to take this game soundly.  No OT, no close finish.  Control the 
>> game throughout.  Ohio State is only two weeks away. 
>> 
> 
> Agree with the top line--if we are 2-0 after tomorrow and no major injuries, 
>  all Cat fans should be happy,--no such thing as winning ugly for us 
> 
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From rstetson at capps-assoc.com  Sat Sep  8 07:55:38 2007
From: rstetson at capps-assoc.com (Roy Lamberton)
Date: Sat Sep  8 07:44:10 2007
Subject: [NU Sports] Nevada
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The key is what every coach tell his kids....

One Play at a time
One Game at a time
Expect Victory

The focus is always on the present game

Let the media guys worry about future opponents - your team has to worry about
how you and your teammates are going to play.

I know Fitz has read that page in the coaching manual.

We'll be chatting in the usual place on Scout - I maybe late. [I have to coach
my team this morning]

Go Cats

rsl

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> 
> 
> This game could propel team to a really good season, or inject doubt into
> the locker room and the coaching offices.? If we win, we show we know how
> to defend home turf against a worthy opponent, whom we owe one to.? If we
> lose, then how good will we be, since we will have proven nothing with last
> week's win?? This is a stepping stone game for Fitz.? All of the
> motivational factors and intangibles favor NU, and it is a game we really
> need, if we are to be bowl-worthy and take step into the upper half of the
> conference.? Wish I could be there, instead of 900 miles away.....?Wouldn't
> it be loverly to open with 3 non-conf wins.....
> 
> 
> 
> Paul Levinson
> 
> 
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From sjtruog at yahoo.com  Sat Sep  8 12:46:07 2007
From: sjtruog at yahoo.com (SjT (Stephen J. Truog))
Date: Sat Sep  8 12:41:21 2007
Subject: [NU Sports] First half thoughts ...
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Not a good half for the Cats ... and that was before
Tyrell's injury. Thankfully he returned, but then the
secondary falls asleep on the final play?!?!?!?!

WAKE UP GUYS!!!

Loved the opening drive, but what happened to Bacher
afterwards? He wasn't the same crisp, accurate passer
and he juuuuust missed a couple big plays. Ross wide
open for a TD being the latest one.

And while I can understand sticking with CJ while he's
hot, when he started losing it, we really needed to
pound the ball a bit with a pre-injury Sutton. We have
yet to establish the running game in the first half of
games this year, and that concerns me with the
offensive line. Actually, it infuriates me - with
three seniors and Rees back, that's inexcusible after
a game and a half!

On defense, we need to get off the bloody field on 3rd
downs - we had them in 3rd and long that first drive
but let them convert and they went on to score. And we
missed chances on two fourth downs later.

Our D (especially the secondary) doesn't seem as
aggressive - part of that may be good coaching by
Nevada in keeping our defense guessing and then double
guessing with their mixed play calling. But still,
someone needs to step up and make a PLAY!

Strange to say it, but our saving grace has been
special teams - nice punts, kickoffs and strong
returns by McManus that have been shoestrings away
from two touchdowns. The field goal at the end was
nice - too bad the D let any momentum slip away.

Until that last half of the 2nd quarter, it appeared
that the officials were letting Nevada get away with a
lot (hey, I don't blame 'em - push until they flag ya)
... but they finally started flagging blatant holds
and interferences. Still, it appears Nevada is
grabbing a lot of purple wide receiver jersey and
getting away with it so far.

Not the most competent crew so far though - the replay
that was overturned looked like a pretty obvious call
and they had officials on both sides looking right at
the play ... then they badly botch the call on the
holding, facemask, second hold call vs. Nevada and
call it on NU at first. They're looking like they flew
into town on the red eye and they never had time to
read the section on pass interference in the playbook.

Oh well, I love seeing Fitz' pre-game pep talks but
he's gonna need to tear these guys a new one at
halftime. Especially the linemen and especially
offense. No running game, no pass blocking - get a
helmet on someone! And our tackling on D needs to
improve in a hurry.

GO CATS!!!
WAKE UP AND POUND THE GOSH DARN BALL!!!
-SjT

PS - Some side thoughts ...

* I see from the highlights Purdooooo has switched
back to turf as well (too many moo moo's eating the
grass?:) ) ... so does this mean it's now basketball
on turf? And by my count, the grass stadiums - NU,
Iowa, MSU, PSU and Indiana (I think they still have
grass at IU) - are now in the minority in the league.

* Hopefully this will be "lay off the Big Ten week"
with ACC powers Miami and VaTech looking to get blown
out down south and Big East powers Louisville and West
Virginia surviving sloppy scares. And between Texas'
struggle last week and Nebraska's first half at Wake,
the Big XII ain't looking too fancy either ...

... but then the Buckeyes decide to play baseball with
Akron? C'mon guys! As long as PSU obliterates the
Domers tonight in what should be a very loud Happy
Valley!

* Oh yeah, because it can't be said enough, the Big
Ten Network is abso-frickin-lutely awesome and is
making Saturdays so much fun for football fans! It's
like having two Sunday Ticket days!

* * * * * * * * *
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From bwdolphin146 at yahoo.com  Sat Sep  8 12:51:06 2007
From: bwdolphin146 at yahoo.com (Brad Wilson)
Date: Sat Sep  8 12:46:18 2007
Subject: [NU Sports] I'm not (can't) watching this,
	just  following on the Internet at the half, but ...
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30 passes to 7 runs? THREE runs by Sutton in the whole
half?

Note the difference in passing games: we have 14
completions for 119 yards, they have 12 -- for 222.
That's the difference between a truly dangerous
passing game and a dink-and-dunk no-threat passing
game.

And see Colby's working his usual magic. 48-yard TD
passes on the last play of the half? Business as
usual. 4-8 again, I'd say, unless things change really
quickly in the second half.

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From tbng at comcast.net  Sat Sep  8 12:50:13 2007
From: tbng at comcast.net (Dennis W. Brandt)
Date: Sat Sep  8 12:46:27 2007
Subject: [NU Sports] First half thoughts ...
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Our defense looks painfully slow.  They're always there a step late.  The DL 
is simply poor, and the OL is no better.  So far, we're outmatched. 


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From Hakirsch at aol.com  Sat Sep  8 12:48:44 2007
From: Hakirsch at aol.com (Hakirsch@aol.com)
Date: Sat Sep  8 12:47:46 2007
Subject: [NU Sports] (no subject)
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UGH--getting burnt at the end of the half  (50 yard pass) just can't 
happen--Days of old !--Well one half to go--we can come back

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From warneradams at comcast.net  Sat Sep  8 14:23:44 2007
From: warneradams at comcast.net (warneradams)
Date: Sat Sep  8 14:19:30 2007
Subject: [NU Sports] Run the Ball!!!
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How can the Cats take over inside their own twenty with a chance to milk the
clock and run only one running play?  Nevada allowed 400+ yards on the
ground last week!  

From nolan at romaine.tssi.com  Sat Sep  8 15:00:53 2007
From: nolan at romaine.tssi.com (Mike Nolan)
Date: Sat Sep  8 15:00:57 2007
Subject: [NU Sports] The Cardiac Cats are Back!
Message-ID: <200709082000.l88K0rYh013746@romaine.tssi.com>

It sounded like an ugly game on the radio, especially the 1st half, but 
even an ugly win is still a win.  

Early in the 4th quarter I said to my son, "Last score wins."  The safety
was just lagniappe.
--
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From tbng at comcast.net  Sat Sep  8 15:08:30 2007
From: tbng at comcast.net (Dennis W. Brandt)
Date: Sat Sep  8 15:04:33 2007
Subject: [NU Sports] Cardiac Cats, pt. XIII
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C. J., you are de MAN!  But you have to pass better than that.

What an exciting game!  Eric and I are both hoarse.

It shouldn't have been an exciting game.  The DL was dreadful until the last 
two plays when at LAST they got the first two sacks of the season.  And big 
ones they were.  But it is not enough.  Too many yards; too many points.

The DBs were beaten all day.  The one INT was a very bad pass right to our 
defender.

The OL was not a lot better.  Two chances to run time off the clock and two 
chances to get one yard, and they fail all three times.  They could not pick 
up blitzes.

The game plan was a puzzle, especially in the first half.

I see future wins against Duke and Eastern Michigan.  All the rest are 
impossible to doubtful to win unless that DL steps up BIG time like they did 
in the last two plays.  They are slow, slow, slow and cannot play off a 
block.

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From Hakirsch at aol.com  Sat Sep  8 15:14:17 2007
From: Hakirsch at aol.com (Hakirsch@aol.com)
Date: Sat Sep  8 15:10:31 2007
Subject: [NU Sports] Cardiac Cats, pt. XIII
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We are 2-0--that's all that matters to me--(Of course hope that Tyrell is 
back next week)

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From thehaze at earthlink.net  Sat Sep  8 15:21:28 2007
From: thehaze at earthlink.net (Jim Bendat)
Date: Sat Sep  8 15:16:36 2007
Subject: [NU Sports] Cardiac Cats, pt. XIII
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I think we should be able to beat Duke even without Tyrell.  But, then 
again, maybe I shouldn't assume anything.  Go Cats!


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> back next week)
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From rstetson at capps-assoc.com  Sat Sep  8 15:35:38 2007
From: rstetson at capps-assoc.com (Roy Lamberton)
Date: Sat Sep  8 15:24:06 2007
Subject: [NU Sports] Run the Ball!!!
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They were obviously embarrassed by their play last week

rsl

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> How can the Cats take over inside their own twenty with a chance to milk
> the
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From jonathanwhodges at gmail.com  Sat Sep  8 15:48:08 2007
From: jonathanwhodges at gmail.com (Jonathan Hodges)
Date: Sat Sep  8 15:43:30 2007
Subject: [NU Sports] Cardiac Cats, pt. XIII
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The problem isn't necessarily the DBs (except on that last second TD of the
first half) but the D-Line who had zero pressure on the QB for most of the
day - during the second half they stepped it up but were still
inconsistent.  That was the most glaring observation I saw at the game
today.

Sutton looked okay, he was running along the sidelines for much of the game
and I would imagine that he should be okay for next week but the coaches
were being cautious (although he did come back in for one catch and long run
following the initial injury).

Jonathan

On 9/8/07, Dennis W. Brandt <tbng@comcast.net> wrote:
>
> C. J., you are de MAN!  But you have to pass better than that.
>
> What an exciting game!  Eric and I are both hoarse.
>
> It shouldn't have been an exciting game.  The DL was dreadful until the
> last
> two plays when at LAST they got the first two sacks of the season.  And
> big
> ones they were.  But it is not enough.  Too many yards; too many points.
>
> The DBs were beaten all day.  The one INT was a very bad pass right to our
> defender.
>
> The OL was not a lot better.  Two chances to run time off the clock and
> two
> chances to get one yard, and they fail all three times.  They could not
> pick
> up blitzes.
>
> The game plan was a puzzle, especially in the first half.
>
> I see future wins against Duke and Eastern Michigan.  All the rest are
> impossible to doubtful to win unless that DL steps up BIG time like they
> did
> in the last two plays.  They are slow, slow, slow and cannot play off a
> block.
>
> Should I be ecstatic or depressed for the rest of the season?
>
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From jonathanwhodges at gmail.com  Sat Sep  8 15:49:51 2007
From: jonathanwhodges at gmail.com (Jonathan Hodges)
Date: Sat Sep  8 15:45:16 2007
Subject: [NU Sports] First half thoughts ...
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Indiana has had field turf since at least 2003, and I believe MSU has field
turf as well.  By my count that makes only PSU, Iowa, and NU with grass left
in the Big Ten.  My how times change.

Also the end of that game was unbelievable.

Jonathan

On 9/8/07, SjT (Stephen J. Truog) <sjtruog@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> Not a good half for the Cats ... and that was before
> Tyrell's injury. Thankfully he returned, but then the
> secondary falls asleep on the final play?!?!?!?!
>
> WAKE UP GUYS!!!
>
> Loved the opening drive, but what happened to Bacher
> afterwards? He wasn't the same crisp, accurate passer
> and he juuuuust missed a couple big plays. Ross wide
> open for a TD being the latest one.
>
> And while I can understand sticking with CJ while he's
> hot, when he started losing it, we really needed to
> pound the ball a bit with a pre-injury Sutton. We have
> yet to establish the running game in the first half of
> games this year, and that concerns me with the
> offensive line. Actually, it infuriates me - with
> three seniors and Rees back, that's inexcusible after
> a game and a half!
>
> On defense, we need to get off the bloody field on 3rd
> downs - we had them in 3rd and long that first drive
> but let them convert and they went on to score. And we
> missed chances on two fourth downs later.
>
> Our D (especially the secondary) doesn't seem as
> aggressive - part of that may be good coaching by
> Nevada in keeping our defense guessing and then double
> guessing with their mixed play calling. But still,
> someone needs to step up and make a PLAY!
>
> Strange to say it, but our saving grace has been
> special teams - nice punts, kickoffs and strong
> returns by McManus that have been shoestrings away
> from two touchdowns. The field goal at the end was
> nice - too bad the D let any momentum slip away.
>
> Until that last half of the 2nd quarter, it appeared
> that the officials were letting Nevada get away with a
> lot (hey, I don't blame 'em - push until they flag ya)
> ... but they finally started flagging blatant holds
> and interferences. Still, it appears Nevada is
> grabbing a lot of purple wide receiver jersey and
> getting away with it so far.
>
> Not the most competent crew so far though - the replay
> that was overturned looked like a pretty obvious call
> and they had officials on both sides looking right at
> the play ... then they badly botch the call on the
> holding, facemask, second hold call vs. Nevada and
> call it on NU at first. They're looking like they flew
> into town on the red eye and they never had time to
> read the section on pass interference in the playbook.
>
> Oh well, I love seeing Fitz' pre-game pep talks but
> he's gonna need to tear these guys a new one at
> halftime. Especially the linemen and especially
> offense. No running game, no pass blocking - get a
> helmet on someone! And our tackling on D needs to
> improve in a hurry.
>
> GO CATS!!!
> WAKE UP AND POUND THE GOSH DARN BALL!!!
> -SjT
>
> PS - Some side thoughts ...
>
> * I see from the highlights Purdooooo has switched
> back to turf as well (too many moo moo's eating the
> grass?:) ) ... so does this mean it's now basketball
> on turf? And by my count, the grass stadiums - NU,
> Iowa, MSU, PSU and Indiana (I think they still have
> grass at IU) - are now in the minority in the league.
>
> * Hopefully this will be "lay off the Big Ten week"
> with ACC powers Miami and VaTech looking to get blown
> out down south and Big East powers Louisville and West
> Virginia surviving sloppy scares. And between Texas'
> struggle last week and Nebraska's first half at Wake,
> the Big XII ain't looking too fancy either ...
>
> ... but then the Buckeyes decide to play baseball with
> Akron? C'mon guys! As long as PSU obliterates the
> Domers tonight in what should be a very loud Happy
> Valley!
>
> * Oh yeah, because it can't be said enough, the Big
> Ten Network is abso-frickin-lutely awesome and is
> making Saturdays so much fun for football fans! It's
> like having two Sunday Ticket days!
>
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From sjtruog at yahoo.com  Sat Sep  8 16:03:18 2007
From: sjtruog at yahoo.com (SjT (Stephen J. Truog))
Date: Sat Sep  8 15:58:30 2007
Subject: [NU Sports] Cats Win!
In-Reply-To: <200709082000.l88K0rYh013746@romaine.tssi.com>
Message-ID: <70634.48933.qm@web52902.mail.re2.yahoo.com>

So it's gonna be one of THOSE years again, eh?

I guess we shouldn't have expected different - more
last-minute thrills and a win's a win. I'll take
2-0.:)

Still, about the only unit I'm pleased with right now
is our special teams. But let's start with the good
...

* Fitz must have been after Colby and the D at the
half because they came out with more pressure and
aggressiveness ... and for the most part it paid off,
so maybe we should do that more often?:)

* Hallelujah - someone finally figured out the key to
the option! Yes, you'll get hit, but if you commit,
it's a big gain. CJ took a lick, but made his move
toward the line early instead of stringing it out -
then a perfect pitch to Roberson and a big gain.

* And give CJ credit for the late drive - he had an
off day, but showed some heart at the end to step up
and lead the team. Not a bad catch by Lane, either!

* Last but not least, how 'bout those special teams?!
Aside from the 2nd half kickoff, they were strong in
all areas - good punts, kickoffs, coverage, returns
and more today. Nice to see that aspect of the game
back in Northwestern's arsenal!

As for the bad ...

* The offensive line and play calling left a lot to be
desired. We got beat too many times on the pass rush
and couldn't get a consistent ground game going. And
after the pickoff to start the third quarter, we had a
horrible series of play calls that kept us only
getting a field goal when we needed that six. And we
had two chances to salt some time away and wrap up the
game late but couldn't get a first down. Ugh.

One more chance to get working on dominating the
trenches vs. Duke next week, fellas.

* Second half antics aside, the defense was horrendous
in the first half. We have a decent enough secondary
to take risks with pressure and mixing up blitzers up
front - we need to get much, much more creative and
aggressive.

But overall, nice to see the comeback after that
unforgivable hail mary at the end of the first half -
and encouraging to see CJ lead a drive to respond
after we gave 'em back the game late. It wasn't
pretty, but it's a win and we'll take it and hopefully
learn from it. Now we need to come out much more
focused against Duke and get Tyrell healthy for the
Big Ten season.

Around the league ...

* Minny looks like they're going for our OT record
from a few years back. I guess, like us, they won't
complain about the win ... but that was another wild
finish in the Dome. At least they're doing their part
to make the Big Ten Network exciting!

* MSU and OSU were a bit less impressive this week ...
but again, it's all about the record and they're 2-0.

* Purdue's veterans on O + turf could mean even more
points and whacks on that world's largest drum this
year. If they had Iowa's schedule, I'd like the
Boilers as a big-time darkhorse. They'll still be a
team to watch with the lax defenses in this league.

* Michigan's not looking too much better so far
against Oregon. I thought that Big Blue would come out
with something to prove and more of an "OK, no more
title pressure, unleash the offensive monster and
screw playing it conservative" approach ... but, no.

* I don't see much trouble in the night games, but you
never know. 

GO CATS!!!
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From nolan at romaine.tssi.com  Sat Sep  8 16:04:02 2007
From: nolan at romaine.tssi.com (Mike Nolan)
Date: Sat Sep  8 16:04:05 2007
Subject: [NU Sports] Hell freezes over in Michigan
Message-ID: <200709082104.l88L42bg014044@romaine.tssi.com>

That's the only explanation I can offer for what's happening in the
Big House--again!

Will Lloyd Carr get fired at halftime or will they wait until Sunday?
--
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From jleonard518 at yahoo.com  Sat Sep  8 16:22:08 2007
From: jleonard518 at yahoo.com (Jim Leonard)
Date: Sat Sep  8 16:17:18 2007
Subject: [NU Sports] Hell freezes over in Michigan
Message-ID: <588339.59620.qm@web36805.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

Awesome. 

Oregon 32, Michigan 7 at the half. If the current trend holds, I expect Llyod Carr will resign after the game.



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Subject: [NU Sports] Hell freezes over in Michigan


That's the only explanation I can offer for what's happening in the
Big House--again!

Will Lloyd Carr get fired at halftime or will they wait until Sunday?
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From sjtruog at yahoo.com  Sat Sep  8 16:43:39 2007
From: sjtruog at yahoo.com (SjT (Stephen J. Truog))
Date: Sat Sep  8 16:38:50 2007
Subject: [NU Sports] Hell freezes over in Michigan
In-Reply-To: <588339.59620.qm@web36805.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <338421.19214.qm@web52909.mail.re2.yahoo.com>

I'm in disbelief.

I just hope Michigan doesn't get rid of all this
suckiness before they come to Evanston at the end of
the month!

I also really don't want Michigan to lose too much
more (especially not to the Evil Empire next week)
because it's just going to keep hammering the league.
An upset in week one is bad enough - two bad games in
a row and these commentators are really going to start
hammering the league. 

We had to deal with the SEC talk all off season after
the title game (nevermind that we were 2-1 vs. the SEC
in bowls last year and that OSU only had 23,000 weeks
off before that title game). Then Michigan's meltdown
in week 1 just keep hammering the league to the point
where more than one talking head said we were the
weakest BCS league. Nevermind that the ACC is getting
spanked in their few tests today and that the Big East
seems to allow 7,000 yards per game.

Don't get me wrong, I want to see us slice through
this Michigan D like Oregon and AppState did ... but
in the pre-conference games I want Michigan and the
rest of the league to look good. The way it's going
now could hurt our league in the polls and ultimately
BCS race later on.

GO CATS!!!
-SjT

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From sjtruog at yahoo.com  Sat Sep  8 16:45:09 2007
From: sjtruog at yahoo.com (SjT (Stephen J. Truog))
Date: Sat Sep  8 16:40:19 2007
Subject: [NU Sports] Hell freezes over in Michigan
In-Reply-To: <588339.59620.qm@web36805.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <182514.64384.qm@web52902.mail.re2.yahoo.com>

BTW ... 

... how can you have 300+ yards of offense in the
first half and be LOSING AT HOME 7-32?!?!?!

Like I said, I just want them to save some of these
turnovers for Ryan Field.:)

GO CATS!!!
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From Alan.Abrahamson at nbcsports.com  Sat Sep  8 16:47:11 2007
From: Alan.Abrahamson at nbcsports.com (Abrahamson, Alan (NBC Universal))
Date: Sat Sep  8 16:43:24 2007
Subject: [NU Sports] Hell freezes over in Michigan
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References: <588339.59620.qm@web36805.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
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The athletic director at the University of Michigan, Bill Martin, has
consistently proven himself to me to be one of the really good guys in
sports. I got to know him in 2003, when he served as the interim head of
the U.S. Olympic Committee. My take is that Martin would be highly
unlikely to make a coaching change in the middle of the season, no
matter how many unthinkable losses or even brutal whippings Michigan
endures.
 There had been a report earlier in the year (Ann Arbor paper, I
believe) that the language in Carr's contract had changed -- a signal
that at the end of this season he was likely to become an associate AD,
or some such thing.
 Given all that, my guess is that Michigan is unlikely to make any
changes -- for a lot of reasons, personal and professional -- until
after this football season.
 Of course, I have been wrong before.
 But as I like to remind my wife: sometimes, I'm right.
   

-----Original Message-----
From: nwu-sports-bounces@tssi.com [mailto:nwu-sports-bounces@tssi.com]
On Behalf Of Jim Leonard
Sent: Saturday, September 08, 2007 2:22 PM
To: nwu-sports@romaine.tssi.com
Subject: Re: [NU Sports] Hell freezes over in Michigan

Awesome. 

Oregon 32, Michigan 7 at the half. If the current trend holds, I expect
Llyod Carr will resign after the game.



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Sent: Saturday, September 8, 2007 4:04:02 PM
Subject: [NU Sports] Hell freezes over in Michigan


That's the only explanation I can offer for what's happening in the Big
House--again!

Will Lloyd Carr get fired at halftime or will they wait until Sunday?
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From Alan.Abrahamson at nbcsports.com  Sat Sep  8 16:56:43 2007
From: Alan.Abrahamson at nbcsports.com (Abrahamson, Alan (NBC Universal))
Date: Sat Sep  8 16:53:58 2007
Subject: [NU Sports] Hell freezes over in Michigan
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Just a thought or two in response to the esteemed Mr. Truog's final
paragraph, and here I want to stress that I am speaking personally, not
as a sportswriter:
 As a Northwestern fan, I am personally happy to see Michigan, Ohio
State, Penn State, Wisconsin, Indiana, Iowa, Illinois, Minnesota and
Michigan State lose anytime, anywhere. In that spirit, you can bet I was
rooting for Akron today, and Appalachian State last week, and so on.
 Why?
 Because, one, it's good for Northwestern in the Big Ten race if these
other teams lose. 
 Further, I could care less whether Ohio State or Michigan or Wisconsin
or Penn State is in some BCS game. I could care less than less if
Illinois or Minnesota are in the Pesky's Combo Weedeater Bowl, or
whatever some lesser bowl might be called. As a Wildcat fan, I only care
if Northwestern is in position to make such a bowl game, particularly a
BCS tilt.
 And if the Wildcats win, the poll numbers and all the other hoo-hah
takes care of itself. As I recall it -- and I realize this was in the
pre-BCS era -- Northwestern had climbed to No. 3 in the rankings going
into the 1996 Rose Bowl. 
  

-----Original Message-----
From: nwu-sports-bounces@tssi.com [mailto:nwu-sports-bounces@tssi.com]
On Behalf Of SjT (Stephen J. Truog)
Sent: Saturday, September 08, 2007 2:44 PM
To: nwu-sports@romaine.tssi.com
Subject: Re: [NU Sports] Hell freezes over in Michigan

I'm in disbelief.

I just hope Michigan doesn't get rid of all this suckiness before they
come to Evanston at the end of the month!

I also really don't want Michigan to lose too much more (especially not
to the Evil Empire next week) because it's just going to keep hammering
the league.
An upset in week one is bad enough - two bad games in a row and these
commentators are really going to start hammering the league. 

We had to deal with the SEC talk all off season after the title game
(nevermind that we were 2-1 vs. the SEC in bowls last year and that OSU
only had 23,000 weeks off before that title game). Then Michigan's
meltdown in week 1 just keep hammering the league to the point where
more than one talking head said we were the weakest BCS league.
Nevermind that the ACC is getting spanked in their few tests today and
that the Big East seems to allow 7,000 yards per game.

Don't get me wrong, I want to see us slice through this Michigan D like
Oregon and AppState did ... but in the pre-conference games I want
Michigan and the rest of the league to look good. The way it's going now
could hurt our league in the polls and ultimately BCS race later on.

GO CATS!!!
-SjT

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From JHCCLARK at aol.com  Sat Sep  8 20:43:23 2007
From: JHCCLARK at aol.com (JHCCLARK@aol.com)
Date: Sat Sep  8 20:39:53 2007
Subject: [NU Sports] Why Root for Big Ten Losses?
Message-ID: <1F452BBD.0B394A9A.006D6456@aol.com>

Why would Big Ten losses in non-conference games be a good thing for Northwestern?  For instance, how does a hypothetical Iowa loss to Iowa State help Northwestern?  As you put it, how does that help Northwestern in the Big Ten race?

I understand the visceral joy of an Iowa loss, but that is PERSONAL joy and does not help Northwestern.  An Iowa loss to Iowa State lowers Northwestern's strength of schedule  and brings the conference's prestige down.  Lowered Big Ten prestige translates into TV revenue losses and diminished Big Ten/BCS Bowl desirability, which leads to diminished bowl revenue and the possible loss of an eighth bowl team, which could be Northwestern.  

Of course this is all academic, as "wishing" for Big Ten losses doesn't make it so.

In a message dated 9/8/2007 5:56:43 PM Eastern Daylight Time, "Abrahamson, Alan" <Alan.Abrahamson@nbcsports.com> writes:

Just a thought or two in response to the esteemed Mr. Truog's final paragraph, and here I want to stress that I am speaking personally, not as a sportswriter:

As a Northwestern fan, I am personally happy to see Michigan, Ohio State, Penn State, Wisconsin, Indiana, Iowa, Illinois, Minnesota and Michigan State lose anytime, anywhere. In that spirit, you can bet I was rooting for Akron today, and Appalachian State last week, and so on.

Why?

Because, one, it's good for Northwestern in the Big Ten race if these other teams lose.... 

From sjtruog at yahoo.com  Sat Sep  8 21:10:58 2007
From: sjtruog at yahoo.com (SjT (Stephen J. Truog))
Date: Sat Sep  8 21:06:10 2007
Subject: [NU Sports] Hell freezes over in Michigan
In-Reply-To: <33C4F11DF8639640A51C79CB484166FF031D2068@RKFMLVEM02.e2k.ad.ge.com>
Message-ID: <761625.65971.qm@web52908.mail.re2.yahoo.com>

>  As a Northwestern fan, I am personally happy to see
> Michigan, Ohio
> State, Penn State, Wisconsin, Indiana, Iowa,
> Illinois, Minnesota and
> Michigan State lose anytime, anywhere. In that

:) ... on one hand I can understand. There is a point
that if it comes down to tiebreakers, overall mark
could be on the list somewhere (though it's much less
of a factor than bowl prestige and fans, which NU
would likely lose to other schools on anyway in
postseason selections) ... plus, you just like seeing
those annoying bullies in your league get some
comeuppance.

But overall, it is far better for NU when our Big Ten
brethren win in the non conference slate. It bolsters
our credibility when we beat them , raises the
league's reputation for those extra BCS bowl slots
(the Notre Dame one has officially just opened up :) )
and keeps our league and by association NU, in good
standing nationally.

It just seems to be a touchy topic now - I don't think
anyone in the Big Ten has ever challenged SEC
supremacy, but the folk down south must have felt
mighty threatened somehow because they began lobbing
pretty big attacks on our conference before and
especially after the BCS title game last year.

Personally, I've never really doubted that the SEC is
the strongest league in football. But the Big Ten has
usually been a clear runner-up and I'll match our
traditions, fans, atmosphere and such with the SEC any
day - both areas are passionate about their pigskin!

And while the SEC and Pac 10 come close, I still don't
think they quite match our depth. The SEC champion has
been pretty select company in the past decade or so,
whereas the Big Ten title has been spread around
nicely. And while the Pac 10 is improving, the SEC and
Big Ten are still the leaders in conference strength
for week by week opponents - with the home field edge
and traditions of both leagues, there are few if any
gimmes on the league slate.

But with the BCS loss and Michigan's madness, we're
now regarded by many as in the bottom half of BCS
leagues. It's hogwash, but perception matters and that
could hurt in a few postseason areas - getting an
extra BCS berth to allow a 6-6 team from our league,
perhaps NU, to go to the postseason. Or, should NU or
another Big Ten team run the table, they could be out
of the title game because of a perceived weakness of
the conference.

Like I said, I was hoping this would be a "get off our
back" weekend ...

* The ACC is getting smacked around in Norman and
Baton Rouge ... plus FSU barely survived at home
against a team Sparty crushed last week.

* The Big Least's top two teams allowed massive chunks
of yardage in unimpressive victories.

* The Big XII is having some struggles outside of OU,
with Texas looking human the first two weeks and
narrow escapes by ATM and UNL ... not to mention
Mizzou's narrow victory over one of our lower teams,
Illinois, despite the Illini doing everything they
could to hand the game over to the Tigers.

... but now all the story will be is Michigan losing
again and how the Big Ten looks weaker than ever. UGH!

And while most Big Ten fans may delight in our
conference rivals losing, a stronger force may be our
collective hatred of the Evil Empire, which means big
cheers for the Maize and Blue in the "very moveable
object of Michigan's defense vs. the very resistable
force of ND's offense" in next week's "someone's gotta
win" showdown. And more cheers for Sparty and MooMoo
to keep digging the hole GaTech and PSU started for
that blasted leprechaun in September!

But of course, the most important thing is a Wildcat
victory. BEAT DUKE!!!

GO CATS!!!
-SjT


> spirit, you can bet I was
> rooting for Akron today, and Appalachian State last
> week, and so on.
>  Why?
>  Because, one, it's good for Northwestern in the Big
> Ten race if these
> other teams lose. 
>  Further, I could care less whether Ohio State or
> Michigan or Wisconsin
> or Penn State is in some BCS game. I could care less
> than less if
> Illinois or Minnesota are in the Pesky's Combo
> Weedeater Bowl, or
> whatever some lesser bowl might be called. As a
> Wildcat fan, I only care
> if Northwestern is in position to make such a bowl
> game, particularly a
> BCS tilt.
>  And if the Wildcats win, the poll numbers and all
> the other hoo-hah
> takes care of itself. As I recall it -- and I
> realize this was in the
> pre-BCS era -- Northwestern had climbed to No. 3 in
> the rankings going
> into the 1996 Rose Bowl. 
>   
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: nwu-sports-bounces@tssi.com
> [mailto:nwu-sports-bounces@tssi.com]
> On Behalf Of SjT (Stephen J. Truog)
> Sent: Saturday, September 08, 2007 2:44 PM
> To: nwu-sports@romaine.tssi.com
> Subject: Re: [NU Sports] Hell freezes over in
> Michigan
> 
> I'm in disbelief.
> 
> I just hope Michigan doesn't get rid of all this
> suckiness before they
> come to Evanston at the end of the month!
> 
> I also really don't want Michigan to lose too much
> more (especially not
> to the Evil Empire next week) because it's just
> going to keep hammering
> the league.
> An upset in week one is bad enough - two bad games
> in a row and these
> commentators are really going to start hammering the
> league. 
> 
> We had to deal with the SEC talk all off season
> after the title game
> (nevermind that we were 2-1 vs. the SEC in bowls
> last year and that OSU
> only had 23,000 weeks off before that title game).
> Then Michigan's
> meltdown in week 1 just keep hammering the league to
> the point where
> more than one talking head said we were the weakest
> BCS league.
> Nevermind that the ACC is getting spanked in their
> few tests today and
> that the Big East seems to allow 7,000 yards per
> game.
> 
> Don't get me wrong, I want to see us slice through
> this Michigan D like
> Oregon and AppState did ... but in the
> pre-conference games I want
> Michigan and the rest of the league to look good.
> The way it's going now
> could hurt our league in the polls and ultimately
> BCS race later on.
> 
> GO CATS!!!
> -SjT
> 
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> 
> 
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From sjtruog at yahoo.com  Sat Sep  8 21:15:57 2007
From: sjtruog at yahoo.com (SjT (Stephen J. Truog))
Date: Sat Sep  8 21:11:08 2007
Subject: [NU Sports] PS ...
Message-ID: <994167.10231.qm@web52912.mail.re2.yahoo.com>

... that white-out in Beaver Stadium was impressive
tonight. They even got the older (i.e. non-student)
fans to buy in and it looks awesome under those
lights.

It would be just incredible to see 49,000 people in
Ryan Field wearing purple and shaking purple poms
making noise for a big night game.

But at least it sounded noisy and they showed fans
standing on third downs in the second half in Evanston
today, so that's a good start!

GO CATS!!!
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From nolan at romaine.tssi.com  Sat Sep  8 21:36:43 2007
From: nolan at romaine.tssi.com (Mike Nolan)
Date: Sat Sep  8 21:36:46 2007
Subject: [NU Sports] Why Root for Big Ten Losses? 
Message-ID: <200709090236.l892ahbM014987@romaine.tssi.com>

> Why would Big Ten losses in non-conference games be a good thing for Northwestern?  For instance, how does a hypothetical Iowa loss to Iowa State help Northwestern?  As you put it, how does that help Northwestern in the Big Ten race?

Aside from the argument of a possible 2nd BCS slot for the conference, 
which is still not out of the question in 2007, though Michigan won't
be one of them, non-conference losses by other Big 10 teams could improve 
what bowl we get.
--
Mike Nolan

From jleonard518 at yahoo.com  Sun Sep  9 08:27:12 2007
From: jleonard518 at yahoo.com (Jim Leonard)
Date: Sun Sep  9 08:22:21 2007
Subject: [NU Sports] Sunday Thoughts
Message-ID: <611925.16265.qm@web36809.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

Fellow Wildcat Faithful,

1) It is hard to not enjoy a Cats' victory, but we really didn't deserve it yesterday. This team is going to have to get a lot more aggressive to compete in the Big Ten.

2) The above comment aside, CJ's control of the last-minute scramble to win was impressive. He knew when to run and when to throw. It reminded me of Zak Kustok. 

3) Fire Greg Colby. I seriously hope he is not back in '08.

4) Who would have ever thought that the storyline in Notre Dame vs. Michigan would be 'Someone has to Win'? I expect it will be Michigan, because despite their problems they have a running game. 

5) Speaking of running games, I wish McGee would run the ball more. He was calling all sorts of passing plays even before Sutton was injured. That being said, I did not like the run up the gut call late in the game that forced us to punt. 

Victory & Honor,
Jim


       
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From tbng at comcast.net  Sun Sep  9 09:38:49 2007
From: tbng at comcast.net (Dennis W. Brandt)
Date: Sun Sep  9 09:34:50 2007
Subject: [NU Sports] Sunday Thoughts
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> 5) Speaking of running games, I wish McGee would run the ball more. He was 
> calling all sorts of passing plays even before Sutton was injured. That 
> being said, I did not like the run up the gut call late in the game that 
> forced us to punt.

I, too, did not understand the virtual absence of a running game.  However, 
we again demonstrated our inability to move the ball on the ground at crunch 
time, and we struggled inside the 5.  Against a better D, we might not have 
scored.  We can run only when the defense can't be sure we won't pass.  This 
I have to blame on the OL.  They did not push Nevada's DL off the line many 
times yesterday and didn't against Northeastern either.  Indeed, this is the 
NU tradition.  They can run for oh so many yards but can't get the one that 
counts the most.  I have trouble believing that is the coach's fault except 
as a recruiter.

Is the D Colby's fault?  Or is it again just lack of talent?  The DL looks 
slow because it gets blocked almost every time and rarely penetrates without 
a blitz.  Initial contact is usually beyond the line of scrimmage.  I think 
it likely that, thanks to rotating eight guys, Nevada's OL was worn down by 
game's end, which explains some of our second half defensive success and the 
three late sacks.  (I'm assuming there was a sack on that grounding call.) 
We must get better before the Big 10 season begins.  Probably is a good idea 
of finding a replacement if only to shake things up.

P.S.  On another topic, didn't Penn State have a quarterback on the field 
last night?  It seems only Notre Dame did, the kid who is the second coming 
of JohnnyJoeJoePeytonSteveTerryDonovanTom 
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From neonrye at aol.com  Sun Sep  9 10:31:35 2007
From: neonrye at aol.com (neonrye@aol.com)
Date: Sun Sep  9 10:27:51 2007
Subject: [NU Sports] Hell freezes over in Michigan
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Stephen:

I usually read your posts and agree with most of your conclusions, but your swipe at the "Big Least" was really undercut by the magnificent showing of USF against Auburn last night.? I watched the game--in disbelief--as the South Florida crew was incredibly talented and well-coached, and played with amazing heart.? There are 4 very good teams atop the Big East this year--Mark Ament's hometown Cardinals, the Scarlet Knights of NJ (who are really putting college football on the map in the NY Metro Area), the Mountaineers in W.Va., and USF.? Syracuse stinks, and the other teams will be lucky to achieve mediocrity, but the league is far from a joke at this point--and the four top teams are all exciting to watch.? Given the BT's stagger out of the gate, I don't think this is the time to hurl brickbats at other leagues.

Paul Levinson--

-----Original Message-----
From: SjT (Stephen J. Truog) <sjtruog@yahoo.com>
To: nwu-sports@tssi.com
Sent: Sat, 8 Sep 2007 10:10 pm
Subject: RE: [NU Sports] Hell freezes over in Michigan



>  As a Northwestern fan, I am personally happy to see
> Michigan, Ohio
> State, Penn State, Wisconsin, Indiana, Iowa,
> Illinois, Minnesota and
> Michigan State lose anytime, anywhere. In that

:) ... on one hand I can understand. There is a point
that if it comes down to tiebreakers, overall mark
could be on the list somewhere (though it's much less
of a factor than bowl prestige and fans, which NU
would likely lose to other schools on anyway in
postseason selections) ... plus, you just like seeing
those annoying bullies in your league get some
comeuppance.

But overall, it is far better for NU when our Big Ten
brethren win in the non conference slate. It bolsters
our credibility when we beat them , raises the
league's reputation for those extra BCS bowl slots
(the Notre Dame one has officially just opened up :) )
and keeps our league and by association NU, in good
standing nationally.

It just seems to be a touchy topic now - I don't think
anyone in the Big Ten has ever challenged SEC
supremacy, but the folk down south must have felt
mighty threatened somehow because they began lobbing
pretty big attacks on our conference before and
especially after the BCS title game last year.

Personally, I've never really doubted that the SEC is
the strongest league in football. But the Big Ten has
usually been a clear runner-up and I'll match our
traditions, fans, atmosphere and such with the SEC any
day - both areas are passionate about their pigskin!

And while the SEC and Pac 10 come close, I still don't
think they quite match our depth. The SEC champion has
been pretty select company in the past decade or so,
whereas the Big Ten title has been spread around
nicely. And while the Pac 10 is improving, the SEC and
Big Ten are still the leaders in conference strength
for week by week opponents - with the home field edge
and traditions of both leagues, there are few if any
gimmes on the league slate.

But with the BCS loss and Michigan's madness, we're
now regarded by many as in the bottom half of BCS
leagues. It's hogwash, but perception matters and that
could hurt in a few postseason areas - getting an
extra BCS berth to allow a 6-6 team from our league,
perhaps NU, to go to the postseason. Or, should NU or
another Big Ten team run the table, they could be out
of the title game because of a perceived weakness of
the conference.

Like I said, I was hoping this would be a "get off our
back" weekend ...

* The ACC is getting smacked around in Norman and
Baton Rouge ... plus FSU barely survived at home
against a team Sparty crushed last week.

* The Big Least's top two teams allowed massive chunks
of yardage in unimpressive victories.

* The Big XII is having some struggles outside of OU,
with Texas looking human the first two weeks and
narrow escapes by ATM and UNL ... not to mention
Mizzou's narrow victory over one of our lower teams,
Illinois, despite the Illini doing everything they
could to hand the game over to the Tigers.

... but now all the story will be is Michigan losing
again and how the Big Ten looks weaker than ever. UGH!

And while most Big Ten fans may delight in our
conference rivals losing, a stronger force may be our
collective hatred of the Evil Empire, which means big
cheers for the Maize and Blue in the "very moveable
object of Michigan's defense vs. the very resistable
force of ND's offense" in next week's "someone's gotta
win" showdown. And more cheers for Sparty and MooMoo
to keep digging the hole GaTech and PSU started for
that blasted leprechaun in September!

But of course, the most important thing is a Wildcat
victory. BEAT DUKE!!!

GO CATS!!!
-SjT


> spirit, you can bet I was
> rooting for Akron today, and Appalachian State last
> week, and so on.
>  Why?
>  Because, one, it's good for Northwestern in the Big
> Ten race if these
> other teams lose. 
>  Further, I could care less whether Ohio State or
> Michigan or Wisconsin
> or Penn State is in some BCS game. I could care less
> than less if
> Illinois or Minnesota are in the Pesky's Combo
> Weedeater Bowl, or
> whatever some lesser bowl might be called. As a
> Wildcat fan, I only care
> if Northwestern is in position to make such a bowl
> game, particularly a
> BCS tilt.
>  And if the Wildcats win, the poll numbers and all
> the other hoo-hah
> takes care of itself. As I recall it -- and I
> realize this was in the
> pre-BCS era -- Northwestern had climbed to No. 3 in
> the rankings going
> into the 1996 Rose Bowl. 
>   
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: nwu-sports-bounces@tssi.com
> [mailto:nwu-sports-bounces@tssi.com]
> On Behalf Of SjT (Stephen J. Truog)
> Sent: Saturday, September 08, 2007 2:44 PM
> To: nwu-sports@romaine.tssi.com
> Subject: Re: [NU Sports] Hell freezes over in
> Michigan
> 
> I'm in disbelief.
> 
> I just hope Michigan doesn't get rid of all this
> suckiness before they
> come to Evanston at the end of the month!
> 
> I also really don't want Michigan to lose too much
> more (especially not
> to the Evil Empire next week) because it's just
> going to keep hammering
> the league.
> An upset in week one is bad enough - two bad games
> in a row and these
> commentators are really going to start hammering the
> league. 
> 
> We had to deal with the SEC talk all off season
> after the title game
> (nevermind that we were 2-1 vs. the SEC in bowls
> last year and that OSU
> only had 23,000 weeks off before that title game).
> Then Michigan's
> meltdown in week 1 just keep hammering the league to
> the point where
> more than one talking head said we were the weakest
> BCS league.
> Nevermind that the ACC is getting spanked in their
> few tests today and
> that the Big East seems to allow 7,000 yards per
> game.
> 
> Don't get me wrong, I want to see us slice through
> this Michigan D like
> Oregon and AppState did ... but in the
> pre-conference games I want
> Michigan and the rest of the league to look good.
> The way it's going now
> could hurt our league in the polls and ultimately
> BCS race later on.
> 
> GO CATS!!!
> -SjT
> 
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> sjtruog@yahoo.com
> GO CATS!!!
> 
> 
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From Hakirsch at aol.com  Sun Sep  9 10:54:26 2007
From: Hakirsch at aol.com (Hakirsch@aol.com)
Date: Sun Sep  9 10:53:22 2007
Subject: [NU Sports] FWIW
Message-ID: <c03.17ec82a0.34157132@aol.com>

NU  2-0
Stanford 0-1
Vandy  1-1
BYU    0-2
ND     0-2


Cal  2-0
Mich 0-2

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From Hakirsch at aol.com  Sun Sep  9 10:55:46 2007
From: Hakirsch at aol.com (Hakirsch@aol.com)
Date: Sun Sep  9 10:54:41 2007
Subject: [NU Sports] FWIW (one more)
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NU? 2-0
Stanford 0-1
Duke     0-2
Vandy? 1-1
BYU??? 0-2
ND???? 0-2


Cal? 2-0
Mich 0-2

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From cyrilku at yahoo.com  Sun Sep  9 11:29:42 2007
From: cyrilku at yahoo.com (Cyril S. Ku)
Date: Sun Sep  9 11:24:52 2007
Subject: [NU Sports] Hell freezes over in Michigan
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Paul,

You are right about the Scarlet Knights put college
football on the map in the NY/NJ area. My neighbor is
a season ticket holder of the Knights and he did not
even attend Rutgers. He had an extra ticket for me on
Friday and five of his friends (including me) went to
see the Navy vs. Rutgers game. Later I found out that
out of these five people, only one is remotely related
to Rutgers (he went to Rutgers-Camden law school).

It's rather annoying to hear them talking about how
great Big East is and how down Big Ten is given the
fact that App. State beat Michigan. However, it is
nice to know that all these people remember the great
Northwestern teams of '95 and '96.

Cyril Ku

--- neonrye@aol.com wrote:

> 
> Stephen:
> 
> I usually read your posts and agree with most of
> your conclusions, but your swipe at the "Big Least"
> was really undercut by the magnificent showing of
> USF against Auburn last night.? I watched the
> game--in disbelief--as the South Florida crew was
> incredibly talented and well-coached, and played
> with amazing heart.? There are 4 very good teams
> atop the Big East this year--Mark Ament's hometown
> Cardinals, the Scarlet Knights of NJ (who are really
> putting college football on the map in the NY Metro
> Area), the Mountaineers in W.Va., and USF.? Syracuse
> stinks, and the other teams will be lucky to achieve
> mediocrity, but the league is far from a joke at
> this point--and the four top teams are all exciting
> to watch.? Given the BT's stagger out of the gate, I
> don't think this is the time to hurl brickbats at
> other leagues.
> 
> Paul Levinson--
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: SjT (Stephen J. Truog) <sjtruog@yahoo.com>
> To: nwu-sports@tssi.com
> Sent: Sat, 8 Sep 2007 10:10 pm
> Subject: RE: [NU Sports] Hell freezes over in
> Michigan
> 
> 
> 
> >  As a Northwestern fan, I am personally happy to
> see
> > Michigan, Ohio
> > State, Penn State, Wisconsin, Indiana, Iowa,
> > Illinois, Minnesota and
> > Michigan State lose anytime, anywhere. In that
> 
> :) ... on one hand I can understand. There is a
> point
> that if it comes down to tiebreakers, overall mark
> could be on the list somewhere (though it's much
> less
> of a factor than bowl prestige and fans, which NU
> would likely lose to other schools on anyway in
> postseason selections) ... plus, you just like
> seeing
> those annoying bullies in your league get some
> comeuppance.
> 
> But overall, it is far better for NU when our Big
> Ten
> brethren win in the non conference slate. It
> bolsters
> our credibility when we beat them , raises the
> league's reputation for those extra BCS bowl slots
> (the Notre Dame one has officially just opened up :)
> )
> and keeps our league and by association NU, in good
> standing nationally.
> 
> It just seems to be a touchy topic now - I don't
> think
> anyone in the Big Ten has ever challenged SEC
> supremacy, but the folk down south must have felt
> mighty threatened somehow because they began lobbing
> pretty big attacks on our conference before and
> especially after the BCS title game last year.
> 
> Personally, I've never really doubted that the SEC
> is
> the strongest league in football. But the Big Ten
> has
> usually been a clear runner-up and I'll match our
> traditions, fans, atmosphere and such with the SEC
> any
> day - both areas are passionate about their pigskin!
> 
> And while the SEC and Pac 10 come close, I still
> don't
> think they quite match our depth. The SEC champion
> has
> been pretty select company in the past decade or so,
> whereas the Big Ten title has been spread around
> nicely. And while the Pac 10 is improving, the SEC
> and
> Big Ten are still the leaders in conference strength
> for week by week opponents - with the home field
> edge
> and traditions of both leagues, there are few if any
> gimmes on the league slate.
> 
> But with the BCS loss and Michigan's madness, we're
> now regarded by many as in the bottom half of BCS
> leagues. It's hogwash, but perception matters and
> that
> could hurt in a few postseason areas - getting an
> extra BCS berth to allow a 6-6 team from our league,
> perhaps NU, to go to the postseason. Or, should NU
> or
> another Big Ten team run the table, they could be
> out
> of the title game because of a perceived weakness of
> the conference.
> 
> Like I said, I was hoping this would be a "get off
> our
> back" weekend ...
> 
> * The ACC is getting smacked around in Norman and
> Baton Rouge ... plus FSU barely survived at home
> against a team Sparty crushed last week.
> 
> * The Big Least's top two teams allowed massive
> chunks
> of yardage in unimpressive victories.
> 
> * The Big XII is having some struggles outside of
> OU,
> with Texas looking human the first two weeks and
> narrow escapes by ATM and UNL ... not to mention
> Mizzou's narrow victory over one of our lower teams,
> Illinois, despite the Illini doing everything they
> could to hand the game over to the Tigers.
> 
> ... but now all the story will be is Michigan losing
> again and how the Big Ten looks weaker than ever.
> UGH!
> 
> And while most Big Ten fans may delight in our
> conference rivals losing, a stronger force may be
> our
> collective hatred of the Evil Empire, which means
> big
> cheers for the Maize and Blue in the "very moveable
> object of Michigan's defense vs. the very resistable
> force of ND's offense" in next week's "someone's
> gotta
> win" showdown. And more cheers for Sparty and MooMoo
> to keep digging the hole GaTech and PSU started for
> that blasted leprechaun in September!
> 
> But of course, the most important thing is a Wildcat
> victory. BEAT DUKE!!!
> 
> GO CATS!!!
> -SjT
> 
> 
> > spirit, you can bet I was
> > rooting for Akron today, and Appalachian State
> last
> > week, and so on.
> >  Why?
> >  Because, one, it's good for Northwestern in the
> Big
> > Ten race if these
> > other teams lose. 
> >  Further, I could care less whether Ohio State or
> > Michigan or Wisconsin
> > or Penn State is in some BCS game. I could care
> less
> > than less if
> > Illinois or Minnesota are in the Pesky's Combo
> > Weedeater Bowl, or
> > whatever some lesser bowl might be called. As a
> > Wildcat fan, I only care
> > if Northwestern is in position to make such a bowl
> > game, particularly a
> > BCS tilt.
> >  And if the Wildcats win, the poll numbers and all
> > the other hoo-hah
> > takes care of itself. As I recall it -- and I
> > realize this was in the
> > pre-BCS era -- Northwestern had climbed to No. 3
> in
> > the rankings going
> > into the 1996 Rose Bowl. 
> >   
> > 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: nwu-sports-bounces@tssi.com
> > [mailto:nwu-sports-bounces@tssi.com]
> > On Behalf Of SjT (Stephen J. Truog)
> > Sent: Saturday, September 08, 2007 2:44 PM
> > To: nwu-sports@romaine.tssi.com
> > Subject: Re: [NU Sports] Hell freezes over in
> > Michigan
> > 
> > I'm in disbelief.
> > 
> > I just hope Michigan doesn't get rid of all this
> > suckiness before they
> > come to Evanston at the end of the month!
> > 
> > I also really don't want Michigan to lose too much
> > more (especially not
> > to the Evil Empire next week) because it's just
> > going to keep hammering
> > the league.
> > An upset in week one is bad enough - two bad games
> > in a row and these
> > commentators are really going to start hammering
> the
> > league. 
> > 
> > We had to deal with the SEC talk all off season
> > after the title game
> > (nevermind that we were 2-1 vs. the SEC in bowls
> > last year and that OSU
> > only had 23,000 weeks off before that title game).
> > Then Michigan's
> > meltdown in week 1 just keep hammering the league
> to
> > the point where
> > more than one talking head said we were the
> weakest
> > BCS league.
> > Nevermind that the ACC is getting spanked in their
> > few tests today and
> > that the Big East seems to allow 7,000 yards per
> > game.
> > 
> > Don't get me wrong, I want to see us slice through
> > this Michigan D like
> > Oregon and AppState did ... but in the
> > pre-conference games I want
> > Michigan and the rest of the league to look good.
> > The way it's going now
> > could hurt our league in the polls and ultimately
> > BCS race later on.
> > 
> > GO CATS!!!
> > -SjT
> > 
> > * * * * * * * * *
> > STEPHEN J. TRUOG
> > sjtruog@yahoo.com
> > GO CATS!!!
> > 
> > 
> >  
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From sjtruog at yahoo.com  Sun Sep  9 14:19:33 2007
From: sjtruog at yahoo.com (SjT (Stephen J. Truog))
Date: Sun Sep  9 14:14:41 2007
Subject: [NU Sports] Hell freezes over in Michigan
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> I usually read your posts and agree with most of
> your conclusions, but your swipe at the "Big Least"
> was really undercut by the magnificent showing of

Sorry - that was honestly an old habit slipping in
there - and was before the USF win. The Big East had a
big week with Cincy and USF's impressive showings,
true. However, their bottom half of the league is just
abysmal and brings the league overall down.

I'm really trying not to fault Louisville for the weak
schedule, though, as I know the Cardinals have pretty
much gone to everyone and offered series only to be
declined. I'd bet South Florida is off a lot of
schools' call lists after the Auburn game too.

The league is getting better, no doubt, and may even
be better than the league that swiped three of its top
teams in the ACC now, as the ACC also has a pretty
poor bottom half and their top half is struggling. But
I do still think that it's a little overhyped at the
top - and WVU and Louisville didn't do much to
disprove that this week.

A Big Ten-Big East challenge would be pretty
interesting right now, consider the possibilities ...

Wisconsin vs. West Virginia - ground games galore ...
and if both run the table, they could be playing in a
3 vs. 4 bowl as unbeatens left out of the title game
in favor of stronger leagues - or at least perceived
stronger leagues. Wisky struggled with UNLV's spread,
but I think WVU would struggle with UW's ground game
as well.

Penn State vs. Louisville - Fun game, but Paterno has
always seemed to be the one Big Ten coach who
understands how to stop these spread like offenses

Ohio State vs. Rutgers - Hard hitting, but OSU's
defense would take charge

Purdue vs. South Florida - This could be a fun and
high-scoring game.

Michigan State vs. Cincinnati - Hopefully for the Big
Ten, the old coach would still know a few tricks.

Iowa vs. Syracuse - Well, we know how this one turned
out. Make it NU-Cuse and we'll see in the future.

Michigan vs. Notre Dame - The Irish may be begging to
join the league after this year and we'll see who
wants their first win next week.

Indiana vs. UConn - Like when they played last year,
I'd still rather see it on a basketball court.

Illinois vs. Pitt - Can you find two more overhyped
coaches than Zook and Wanny?

So yeah, it's a disrespected league and my slight was
more old habit than the way things are now ... but I
still think that we stack up favorably. We'd better!:)

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From jeff.beamsley at hilgraeve.com  Sun Sep  9 22:51:47 2007
From: jeff.beamsley at hilgraeve.com (Jeff Beamsley)
Date: Sun Sep  9 22:47:47 2007
Subject: [NU Sports] Sunday Thoughts
In-Reply-To: <611925.16265.qm@web36809.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
References: <611925.16265.qm@web36809.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
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Jim wrote <snip>

5) Speaking of running games, I wish McGee would run the ball more. He was
calling all sorts of passing plays even before Sutton was injured. That being
said, I did not like the run up the gut call late in the game that forced us
to punt. 

==============

Since I was only able to listen to the game on WGN's internet feed, I
couldn't tell how many men Nevada was committing to the run.  If their
defensive plan was to sell out and stop the run, then that could explain why
so many pass plays were getting called.  Perhaps someone who was at the game
or at least was able to see the broadcast, could provide more insight.

Jeff

From e-west at northwestern.edu  Mon Sep 10 10:53:02 2007
From: e-west at northwestern.edu (Eric West)
Date: Mon Sep 10 10:48:37 2007
Subject: [NU Sports] Why Root for Big Ten Losses?
In-Reply-To: <1F452BBD.0B394A9A.006D6456@aol.com>
References: <1F452BBD.0B394A9A.006D6456@aol.com>
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At 08:43 PM 9/8/2007, JHCCLARK@aol.com wrote:
>Why would Big Ten losses in non-conference games be a good thing for 
>Northwestern?  For instance, how does a hypothetical Iowa loss to Iowa 
>State help Northwestern?  As you put it, how does that help Northwestern 
>in the Big Ten race?

Someone else (maybe it was Alan, I honestly can't remember) put it this way 
a while ago, and I have to say I agree: the more our Big Ten opponents 
lose, the worse they look. Fewer recruits choose them, which means we have 
a better chance of beating them, which means more recruits might choose us 
over them, which might lead to even more success for us, etc., etc.

>I understand the visceral joy of an Iowa loss, but that is PERSONAL joy 
>and does not help Northwestern.  An Iowa loss to Iowa State lowers 
>Northwestern's strength of schedule  and brings the conference's prestige 
>down.  Lowered Big Ten prestige translates into TV revenue losses and 
>diminished Big Ten/BCS Bowl desirability, which leads to diminished bowl 
>revenue and the possible loss of an eighth bowl team, which could be 
>Northwestern.

I'm not sure Big Ten "prestige" helps NU all that much. What good is a 
"strong schedule" if you don't win against it? Florida State was at the top 
of a very non-prestigious conference for years, and it didn't hurt them at 
all when it came to the polls and "championship" consideration. If the 
reason we want the Big Ten to look good is so a 6-6 Northwestern team might 
be chosen for a bowl, I think we're choosing the wrong model for Wildcat 
success.

[Note: the FSU example is merely to suggest the irrelevance of conference 
prestige, *not* to say I want a program like Florida State's. That should 
be obvious, but you never know.]

>Of course this is all academic, as "wishing" for Big Ten losses doesn't 
>make it so.

True.


---
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From NEONRye at aol.com  Mon Sep 10 11:08:29 2007
From: NEONRye at aol.com (NEONRye@aol.com)
Date: Mon Sep 10 11:07:43 2007
Subject: [NU Sports] Why Root for Big Ten Losses?
Message-ID: <c6e.18f90494.3416c5fd@aol.com>

I don't always root against our BT rivals in Non-Conf. games, as do some of  
us, but I do ALWAYS root against tOSU.  I hate them, but don't feel the  same 
way against schools such as IU or Wisconsin, or, for that matter,  Michigan.  
By the way, under the "root against our Conference rivals"  Theory that some 
of us espouse, for whom did you root for Sat. evening, Joe Pa's  Lions or ND's 
Irish?  
 
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From mlinhardt at netzero.net  Mon Sep 10 11:17:02 2007
From: mlinhardt at netzero.net (mlinhardt@netzero.net)
Date: Mon Sep 10 11:16:05 2007
Subject: [NU Sports] You could be the one...
Message-ID: <20070910.111702.3974.0@webmail19.dca.untd.com>

Is the Duke game a trap.  I know Duke is very, very bad, but at some point they have to win and I don't want us to be that victim.

It reminds me of a talk we had with Jay Peterson(NU LB coach now at EMU) about coming to play Northwestern during his Miami days.  He saw this sign in the stands that said "You could be the one".  He was confused and ask the fan what it meant and was told that your team could be the one the Wildcats finally beat during the streak.  His response "Hell no!" and the Redhawks went on to beat the Cats.

Let's make sure we aren't "the one".

Go Cats!

As for the Nevada game:
Good
Special teams
Final drive
3rd quarter defense
Tonjua Jones -- I talked negatively about him and he proved me wrong by catching a TD and generally playing a good game.
Robes/Omar -- bravo!

Bad
Officiating -- hold hold and hold some more with no flags
Kadela's tackling -- he seemed to miss a lot of tackles
QB vs. Receivers -- can't we talk?
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From jeff.beamsley at hilgraeve.com  Mon Sep 10 11:22:39 2007
From: jeff.beamsley at hilgraeve.com (Jeff Beamsley)
Date: Mon Sep 10 11:18:44 2007
Subject: [NU Sports] Why Root for Big Ten Losses?
In-Reply-To: <c6e.18f90494.3416c5fd@aol.com>
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The only circumstance where I find myself rooting for ND (or OSU for that
matter) is when they play USC.  

They all have fans who seem to exhibit an insufferable sense of superiority
and entitlement.

Jeff

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Subject: Re: [NU Sports] Why Root for Big Ten Losses?

I don't always root against our BT rivals in Non-Conf. games, as do some of
us, but I do ALWAYS root against tOSU.  I hate them, but don't feel the  same
way against schools such as IU or Wisconsin, or, for that matter,  Michigan.

By the way, under the "root against our Conference rivals"  Theory that some
of us espouse, for whom did you root for Sat. evening, Joe Pa's  Lions or
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From rstetson at capps-assoc.com  Mon Sep 10 12:41:29 2007
From: rstetson at capps-assoc.com (Roy Lamberton)
Date: Mon Sep 10 12:30:48 2007
Subject: [NU Sports] Why Root for Big Ten Losses?
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I actually ignored the game, but had I actually cheered for someone, ...

It would have been for the Refs. <g>

I mean, they must have been under some serious pressure from Jo Pa and Mr. Wiess

rsl

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> Behalf Of NEONRye@aol.com
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> Subject: Re: [NU Sports] Why Root for Big Ten Losses?
> 
> I don't always root against our BT rivals in Non-Conf. games, as do some of
> us, but I do ALWAYS root against tOSU.  I hate them, but don't feel the
> same
> way against schools such as IU or Wisconsin, or, for that matter,
> Michigan.
> By the way, under the "root against our Conference rivals"  Theory that
> some
> of us espouse, for whom did you root for Sat. evening, Joe Pa's  Lions or
> ND's
> Irish?
> 
> Paul Levinson
> 
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From Alan.Abrahamson at nbcsports.com  Mon Sep 10 16:39:24 2007
From: Alan.Abrahamson at nbcsports.com (Abrahamson, Alan (NBC Universal))
Date: Mon Sep 10 16:35:45 2007
Subject: [NU Sports] Why Root for Big Ten Losses?
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Neither :> 

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Subject: Re: [NU Sports] Why Root for Big Ten Losses?

I don't always root against our BT rivals in Non-Conf. games, as do some
of us, but I do ALWAYS root against tOSU.  I hate them, but don't feel
the  same way against schools such as IU or Wisconsin, or, for that
matter,  Michigan.  
By the way, under the "root against our Conference rivals"  Theory that
some of us espouse, for whom did you root for Sat. evening, Joe Pa's
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From sjtruog at yahoo.com  Tue Sep 11 08:20:41 2007
From: sjtruog at yahoo.com (SjT (Stephen J. Truog))
Date: Tue Sep 11 08:15:39 2007
Subject: [NU Sports] For laughs ...
Message-ID: <87527.71874.qm@web52906.mail.re2.yahoo.com>

Ran across this infographic from The Onion sports -
thought we could use a good chuckle (the last one in
particular).

http://www.theonion.com/content/infograph/great_college_football

I guess we should be thankful we're not zinged here.

As for this weekend, I agree with the trap game post -
we need the 3-0 start and can't become "the one" where
Duke's streak ends against. Come out strong and put
this one away early, NU!

GO CATS!!!
-SjT

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From bwdolphin146 at yahoo.com  Tue Sep 11 16:19:32 2007
From: bwdolphin146 at yahoo.com (Brad Wilson)
Date: Tue Sep 11 16:14:32 2007
Subject: [NU Sports] never for N*** D***
Message-ID: <793479.66981.qm@web51308.mail.re2.yahoo.com>

I never hope N*** D*** wins, for several reasons:

1) obnoxious front-running fans

2) I think ND struggling helps NU; the recruiting pool
the two share overlaps some, because of academics
(whatever else I think about ND they do things right,
mostly, with academics).

3) Since N*** D*** doesn't/won't play NU, NU can't
beat them. So I hope everybody else does, and then NU
can beat the everybody-elses (well, not PSU this year,
but generally) and that helps NU too.

4) Charlie Weis. What a smug, arrogant, pompous
buffoon. Not all ND coaches have been unpleasant:
Willingham, Davie and Faust all seemed like classy
guys, ditto Devine and Ara. But Weis is almost as
annoying as Lou Holtz.

5) The Notre Dame Network.

So let's go Michigan. And then when NU whips the
Wolverines, the 'Cats are better than both!

Brad Wilson

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From sjtruog at yahoo.com  Tue Sep 11 22:01:38 2007
From: sjtruog at yahoo.com (SjT (Stephen J. Truog))
Date: Tue Sep 11 21:56:36 2007
Subject: [NU Sports] never for N*** D***
In-Reply-To: <793479.66981.qm@web51308.mail.re2.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <302951.48294.qm@web52904.mail.re2.yahoo.com>

> 4) Charlie Weis. What a smug, arrogant, pompous
> buffoon. Not all ND coaches have been unpleasant:

Well, it looks like he has a quarterback to match now
with Clausen - maybe the lack of an offensive line
will take him down a few pegs this year!

> So let's go Michigan. And then when NU whips the
> Wolverines, the 'Cats are better than both!

Amen to that!

Now, as odd as it may seem, should the Evil Empire
that we love to kick around wise up and listen to its
faculty members and common sense and join the Big Ten,
I would root for ND to win their nonconference games.
Granted, it would be like OSU now where I hope they
win but don't lose sleep if they don't in September
and then hope they lose all conference games ... but
still, I'd root for ND against USC and all of the
academies that they played!:)

GO CATS!!!
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From sjtruog at yahoo.com  Tue Sep 11 22:32:33 2007
From: sjtruog at yahoo.com (SjT (Stephen J. Truog))
Date: Tue Sep 11 22:27:32 2007
Subject: [NU Sports] PIGSKIN PICKS - Week 3
Message-ID: <133453.9689.qm@web52910.mail.re2.yahoo.com>

No standings yet, but we have the week 3 lineup. We
won't try and rush to get Thursday's sorta-big game
in, so all picks due by kickoff Saturday ...

PIGSKIN PICKS - WEEK 3
######################
Name: 

BIG TEN
=======
GAME  1: Illinois @ Syracuse
WINNER : 

GAME  2: Akron @ Indiana 
WINNER : 

GAME  3: Iowa @ Iowa State
WINNER : 

GAME  4: Notre Dame @ Michigan
WINNER : 

GAME  5: Pittsburgh @ Michigan State
WINNER : 

GAME  6: Minnesota @ Florida Atlantic
WINNER : 

GAME  7: Ohio State @ Washington
WINNER : 

GAME  8: Buffalo @ Penn State
WINNER : 

GAME  9: Central Michigan @ Purdue
WINNER : 

GAME 10: The Citadel @ Wisconsin
WINNER : 

NATIONAL
========
GAME 11: Tennessee @ Florida
WINNER : 

GAME 12: Arkansas @ Alabama 
WINNER : 

GAME 13: Southern Cal @ Nebraska
WINNER : 

GAME 14: Boston College @ Georgia Tech
WINNER : 

GAME 15: Louisville @ Kentucky
WINNER : 

MY PICKS
========
* ILLINOIS 37, Syracuse 10 - Would be a better
basketball game ... and an even better citrus drink
with the obscene amounts of orange on display

* INDIANA 30, Akron 21 - The Zips hung in there in the
Shoe, and IU's defense was porous last week, so it's
closer than expected.

* IOWA 24, Iowa State 14 - This is usually a trap game
for the Hawks - but they pull away late.

* MICHIGAN 2, Notre Dame 0 - The game someone's gotta
win ... two freshman QBs, an abysmal Michigan D
against an inept Irish offense ... as long as Big Blue
doesn't turn the ball over, they should win here.

* MICHIGAN STATE 35, Pitt 17 - Sparty warms up for
their crack at the Irish with a ho-hum win over the
Panthers.

* FLORIDA INTERNATIONAL 38, Minnesota 34 - Tough call
here, but FIU has played decent and is at home during
the midday Florida heat, while Minny is exhausted from
back-to-back OT games with the MAC.

* OHIO STATE 16, Washington 13 - Could be the game of
the day as Ty Willingham (how good is he looking to
Domers now?) has the Huskies back and OSU's offense is
still working out some kinks. Buckeyes survive barely.

* PENN STATE 49, Buffalo 0 - The Nits found a running
game last week, so if Morelli just gets consistent,
they could be the team to beat in the Big Ten.

* PURDUE 56, Central Michigan 23 - Basketball on turf
is all the rage in West Lafayette now, with the
Boilermaker offense finding its stride.

* WISCONSIN 41, The Citadel 14 - After Bucky almost
lost their big UNLV gamble last week, it's back to
form in Camp Randall.

NATIONAL
========
* FLORIDA 17, Tennessee 16 - Something tells me this
one's ripe for an upset as the Gators are flying a tad
too high ... but I just can't bring myself to pick
Phat Phil in the Swamp against the defending champs.

* ALABAMA 25, Arkansas 22 - This one has been a wild
series in recent years, and this game should be a lot
of fun with Saban and the Tide announcing their return
to big-time football by Hog-tying McFadden.

* USC 38, Nebraska 7 - The Trojans thrive in prime
time games and know they need to look impressive in
Lincoln after LSU's thumping of VaTech last week.

* GEORGIA TECH 27, Boston College 21 - It seems that
just like last year, the wildly mediocre ACC will be
messing up our picks ... GaTech should win here at
home, but who knows.

* LOUISVILLE 48, Kentucky 45 - We know the Cardinals
don't have a D, but they do have an O and survive this
commonwealth shootout.

And off the board ...

* NORTHWESTERN 31, Duke 14 - The Cats woke up in time
last week but need to pounce all over this one early
to avoid Duke getting a whiff of winning. Hopefully
that's just what happens under the lights in Evanston.
Picks in by Saturday!
GO CATS!!!
-SjT

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From sjtruog at yahoo.com  Tue Sep 11 22:36:45 2007
From: sjtruog at yahoo.com (SjT (Stephen J. Truog))
Date: Tue Sep 11 22:31:43 2007
Subject: [NU Sports] Campus programming ...
Message-ID: <598061.57120.qm@web52906.mail.re2.yahoo.com>

My TiVo recorded the Northwestern block of campus
programming on the Big Ten network last night - anyone
else watch?

The stories were interesting and well produced, but
the broadcast's "anchors" and the overall production
needed some work - looked like a high school
journalism class newscast at times ... and hopefully
for Medill's rep, we can do a little better next time.

But it was nice to see some stories from around campus
and great to see that the BTN is not only showcasing
our talented student athletes at NU (especially in the
non-big name sports), it's also allowing some things
that other students are doing to be shown.

And at least it wasn't laughably corny like that
Appalachain State promo video circling on YouTube!:)

GO CATS!!!
-SjT

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From CHerron604 at aol.com  Tue Sep 11 23:07:07 2007
From: CHerron604 at aol.com (CHerron604@aol.com)
Date: Tue Sep 11 23:03:05 2007
Subject: [NU Sports] Campus programming ...
Message-ID: <cba.19626332.3418bfeb@aol.com>

Stephen's post reminded me of the most recent issue of Chicago  Magazine.  I 
don't generally read this magazine, not usually caring which  gala ball was 
attended by who, or which trendy club is opening up this  month.  But a friend 
passed it along to me based on the cover headline 'The  Battle at NU's 
Journalism School' (just below a monkey perched on a woman's  shoulder).
 
Basically, the author, Dirk Johnson, described how new Medill head John  
Lavine was blowing up the Medill curriculum, replacing it with concentrations in  
'new media' and marketing.  It sounded like students, faculty and alums  were 
not happy about this.  
 
Anybody know anything about these developments ?  The story was kind  of 
short, and left me with quite a few questions.  Should we be worried  about Medill 
?  Do we risk losing our very high Journalism School ranking  ?  Could we 
lose our dominant position in sports media ?
 
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From wseliger at aol.com  Tue Sep 11 23:27:52 2007
From: wseliger at aol.com (wseliger@aol.com)
Date: Tue Sep 11 23:26:56 2007
Subject: [NU Sports] Campus programming ...
In-Reply-To: <cba.19626332.3418bfeb@aol.com>
References: <cba.19626332.3418bfeb@aol.com>
Message-ID: <8C9C30C6B1259EE-A54-8800@webmail-me15.sysops.aol.com>

The Chicago Reader "Hot Type" column had?an interesting story back in July:

http://www.chicagoreader.com/features/stories/hottype/070706/


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Stephen's post reminded me of the most recent issue of Chicago  Magazine.  I 
don't generally read this magazine, not usually caring which  gala ball was 
attended by who, or which trendy club is opening up this  month.  But a friend 
passed it along to me based on the cover headline 'The  Battle at NU's 
Journalism School' (just below a monkey perched on a woman's  shoulder).
 
Basically, the author, Dirk Johnson, described how new Medill head John  
Lavine was blowing up the Medill curriculum, replacing it with concentrations in  

'new media' and marketing.  It sounded like students, faculty and alums  were 
not happy about this.  
 
Anybody know anything about these developments ?  The story was kind  of 
short, and left me with quite a few questions.  Should we be worried  about 
Medill 
?  Do we risk losing our very high Journalism School ranking  ?  Could we 
lose our dominant position in sports media ?
 
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From Alan.Abrahamson at nbcsports.com  Wed Sep 12 01:18:31 2007
From: Alan.Abrahamson at nbcsports.com (Abrahamson, Alan (NBC Universal))
Date: Wed Sep 12 01:15:33 2007
Subject: [NU Sports] Medill
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 I will try to provide at least one perspective to the questions raised
by Mr. Herron. Mr. Nolan: I seek your approval for this post, which is
not related to football or sports.
 From where I sit, the dean is a visionary. Visionaries, by definition,
are not unanimous approval-getters. Nor are they seeking such approval.
Disagreement and even dissent are vital pieces of the dialogue.
 In that regard, the dean is exercising significant leadership. He has
what experts in leadership study call the "double vision thing." He can
see where we are now and where he believes the school ought to be x
years down the line, and he is trying amid the clamor and dissent to
secure buy-in -- from a variety of constituencies -- to implement
change.
 The dean is seeking to implement that change because the journalism
landscape is undergoing a fundamental evolution. Technological and
demographic change are formidable currents but hardly the only factors
reshaping businesses in which Medill grads are expected not only to
compete for jobs but, as their careers progress, assume leading roles.  
 It's unclear whether the steps the dean is taking are the "right" ones.
No one can tell the future. 
 But I admire his self-confidence and his willingness to take action.
 I would also suggest he is ahead, maybe way ahead, of the power curve.
This -- in concert with the confidence he projects -- may well be
another reason the changes he is proposing are generating push-back,
sometimes considerable.
 Dean Lavine was out in Los Angeles last month and gave a talk to the
Medill Club of Southern California, which I attended.
 There is ample material on the Medill website explaining the direction,
intent and details of the revised curriculum, and I would urge any and
all interested to give it a long and thoughtful read. You can also read
there about intriguing proposals aimed at taking the Medill and
Northwestern brands overseas -- to places such as Qatar, for instance.
 I did not hear at the Medill event that day in the Mulholland hills,
nor have I heard at any point in the process, the dean say anything that
would suggest even the slightest retreat from the basics of good
journalism -- the essence of a Medill education, with its emphasis on
fairness and accuracy.
 However, he did make plain that Medill must find ways to enable
students to learn how to tell a story -- on whatever platform -- that
will engage readers, listeners and watchers. 
 By platform, he said, he means newspapers, radio, TV, the web, cellular
phones, video games. That's right -- phones, games, whatever.
 I used "readers, listeners and watchers" deliberately. Here is the word
that seems to really alarm his critics: consumers.
 Even though we are all consumers of news, of sports, of whatever.
 Traditionally, of course, there is a "wall" between the business and
editorial sides of news operations. A major concern appears to be
whether Lavine is suggesting the "wall" ought to be breached or
weakened.
 I do not believe he is so suggesting.
 What he is trying to get at, I believe, is the exact thing all of us in
the business are trying to figure out. Which is: how to produce content
that will compel people to pay for it, on one or multiple platforms --
without pandering, without condescending, without violating the basics
of journalism.
 It's hardly a disaster, or even new, to acknowledge that newspapers
(and by extension other platforms) must make money to survive. I learned
that in theory and then most emphatically in practice when I was at
Medill, in the late 1970s -- when, during March of my sophomore year,
one of the last of the afternoon newspapers, the Chicago Daily News,
went out of business. The world had changed around it and the paper
couldn't respond. 
 Any/all thoughts, observations welcome. After all, we've got three more
days 'til the Duke tilt.
 Alan - Medill '80  
    




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Sent: Tuesday, September 11, 2007 9:07 PM
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Subject: Re: [NU Sports] Campus programming ...

Stephen's post reminded me of the most recent issue of Chicago
Magazine.  I don't generally read this magazine, not usually caring
which  gala ball was attended by who, or which trendy club is opening up
this  month.  But a friend passed it along to me based on the cover
headline 'The  Battle at NU's Journalism School' (just below a monkey
perched on a woman's  shoulder).
 
Basically, the author, Dirk Johnson, described how new Medill head John
Lavine was blowing up the Medill curriculum, replacing it with
concentrations in 'new media' and marketing.  It sounded like students,
faculty and alums  were not happy about this.  
 
Anybody know anything about these developments ?  The story was kind  of
short, and left me with quite a few questions.  Should we be worried
about Medill ?  Do we risk losing our very high Journalism School
ranking  ?  Could we lose our dominant position in sports media ?
 
Chuck Herron   Tech (NOT McCormick)  '85 



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From rstetson at capps-assoc.com  Wed Sep 12 07:37:40 2007
From: rstetson at capps-assoc.com (Roy Lamberton)
Date: Wed Sep 12 07:25:47 2007
Subject: [NU Sports] Medill
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Alan sums it up beautifully [well, he is after all, a Medill guy]

A few years back I tried to get interest in having a couple of sports interns
for Purple Reign. I kept getting names of folks who might be interested in
providing interns for a totally internet site, but never could make a real
connection with someone up there who could help me out.

I basically gave up as my schedule changed.

The point of using Medill and the Speech guys is to give them real world
experience. The guys who cover NU for the Daily do a good job, so do the WNUR
folks, but they seem to be trying to get a controversy going. [My biggest case
in point is this year's preseason analysis by our "student media" - they seem to
be hell bent on convincing folks that our present talent level stinks but that
for another time]

When I was 17, growing up, I read three newspapers every day. My parents
subscribed to the Daily News, the Trib, and Newsday. All three were delivered to
our house. Now my dad still takes the regional daily and we get two weekly
papers, but I read almost everything on-line, I guess you could say I'm one of
the converts to the "new media."

Working on media liason for the Softball World Series, I have found that our web
site, written by me and a couple of other volunteers, had more coverage on the
event than any of the local daily papers, with only the local weekly going all
out. Our local TV stations were very interested until the host team lost and
missed the finals. Coverage in the daily papers also disappeared.

The news biz is rapidly changing and Medill, for all its long list of alums,
needs to expand its vision to include new media. Broadcasters have figured out
how to leverage their local news coverage into full service web sites - wbal.com
is a good example. I would also venture that numbers of people reading stories
on-line for some publications, exceeds the actual news stand readership.

In other areas, Advertising on the web is more like Billboard advertising than
running spots on TV or placing half page ads in the paper. If Medill's
advertising guys are looking at ways to better use web and other advertising
vehicles to support reporting efforts, great. If they're still concerned over
full page issue ads in the Tribune, then they're missing the boat.

Our ability to produce writers of substance is borne out by the number of Medill
[and other program's NU grads] who are writing for the new media. We only see
the two or three alums working Chicago and the Wildcats, and the one or two
folks who have achieved a national presence [Abrahamson, Mandel, etc.]. Some
grads are making the move to the new media - some are actually making money and
supporting themselves at it - embracing the "new media" despite all the classes
at Medill that only stressed magazine and newsprint.

Above all, the Medill guys [and girls] can still write - which is the strength
of the program at NU.

And the job market for webmasters, and writers on the internet is still growing.
Almost every sports web site is check each day [except the "official ones"] are
looking for people who can write and also work in the new media. FWIW, more and
more news outlets are using reader shot video. The amateur web sites, like You
Tube, [along with -gag- the Daily Show] are becoming the primary source of
information for the 12-24 generation. 

But if Medill focus only stays in the present, providing cub reporters for local
newspapers, Medill will eventually be viewed as just another dinosaur program,
to be surpassed by another with leaders who figure out where Journalism is truly
headed. 

IMHO of course.... <g>

rsl 

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> -----Original Message-----
> From: nwu-sports-bounces@tssi.com [mailto:nwu-sports-bounces@tssi.com] On
> Behalf Of Abrahamson, Alan (NBC Universal)
> Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2007 2:19 AM
> To: CHerron604@aol.com; nwu-sports@tssi.com
> Subject: [NU Sports] Medill
> 
> 
>  I will try to provide at least one perspective to the questions raised
> by Mr. Herron. Mr. Nolan: I seek your approval for this post, which is
> not related to football or sports.
>  From where I sit, the dean is a visionary. Visionaries, by definition,
> are not unanimous approval-getters. Nor are they seeking such approval.
> Disagreement and even dissent are vital pieces of the dialogue.
>  In that regard, the dean is exercising significant leadership. He has
> what experts in leadership study call the "double vision thing." He can
> see where we are now and where he believes the school ought to be x
> years down the line, and he is trying amid the clamor and dissent to
> secure buy-in -- from a variety of constituencies -- to implement
> change.
>  The dean is seeking to implement that change because the journalism
> landscape is undergoing a fundamental evolution. Technological and
> demographic change are formidable currents but hardly the only factors
> reshaping businesses in which Medill grads are expected not only to
> compete for jobs but, as their careers progress, assume leading roles.
>  It's unclear whether the steps the dean is taking are the "right" ones.
> No one can tell the future.
>  But I admire his self-confidence and his willingness to take action.
>  I would also suggest he is ahead, maybe way ahead, of the power curve.
> This -- in concert with the confidence he projects -- may well be
> another reason the changes he is proposing are generating push-back,
> sometimes considerable.
>  Dean Lavine was out in Los Angeles last month and gave a talk to the
> Medill Club of Southern California, which I attended.
>  There is ample material on the Medill website explaining the direction,
> intent and details of the revised curriculum, and I would urge any and
> all interested to give it a long and thoughtful read. You can also read
> there about intriguing proposals aimed at taking the Medill and
> Northwestern brands overseas -- to places such as Qatar, for instance.
>  I did not hear at the Medill event that day in the Mulholland hills,
> nor have I heard at any point in the process, the dean say anything that
> would suggest even the slightest retreat from the basics of good
> journalism -- the essence of a Medill education, with its emphasis on
> fairness and accuracy.
>  However, he did make plain that Medill must find ways to enable
> students to learn how to tell a story -- on whatever platform -- that
> will engage readers, listeners and watchers.
>  By platform, he said, he means newspapers, radio, TV, the web, cellular
> phones, video games. That's right -- phones, games, whatever.
>  I used "readers, listeners and watchers" deliberately. Here is the word
> that seems to really alarm his critics: consumers.
>  Even though we are all consumers of news, of sports, of whatever.
>  Traditionally, of course, there is a "wall" between the business and
> editorial sides of news operations. A major concern appears to be
> whether Lavine is suggesting the "wall" ought to be breached or
> weakened.
>  I do not believe he is so suggesting.
>  What he is trying to get at, I believe, is the exact thing all of us in
> the business are trying to figure out. Which is: how to produce content
> that will compel people to pay for it, on one or multiple platforms --
> without pandering, without condescending, without violating the basics
> of journalism.
>  It's hardly a disaster, or even new, to acknowledge that newspapers
> (and by extension other platforms) must make money to survive. I learned
> that in theory and then most emphatically in practice when I was at
> Medill, in the late 1970s -- when, during March of my sophomore year,
> one of the last of the afternoon newspapers, the Chicago Daily News,
> went out of business. The world had changed around it and the paper
> couldn't respond.
>  Any/all thoughts, observations welcome. After all, we've got three more
> days 'til the Duke tilt.
>  Alan - Medill '80
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: nwu-sports-bounces@tssi.com [mailto:nwu-sports-bounces@tssi.com]
> On Behalf Of CHerron604@aol.com
> Sent: Tuesday, September 11, 2007 9:07 PM
> To: sjtruog@yahoo.com; nwu-sports@tssi.com
> Subject: Re: [NU Sports] Campus programming ...
> 
> Stephen's post reminded me of the most recent issue of Chicago
> Magazine.  I don't generally read this magazine, not usually caring
> which  gala ball was attended by who, or which trendy club is opening up
> this  month.  But a friend passed it along to me based on the cover
> headline 'The  Battle at NU's Journalism School' (just below a monkey
> perched on a woman's  shoulder).
> 
> Basically, the author, Dirk Johnson, described how new Medill head John
> Lavine was blowing up the Medill curriculum, replacing it with
> concentrations in 'new media' and marketing.  It sounded like students,
> faculty and alums  were not happy about this.
> 
> Anybody know anything about these developments ?  The story was kind  of
> short, and left me with quite a few questions.  Should we be worried
> about Medill ?  Do we risk losing our very high Journalism School
> ranking  ?  Could we lose our dominant position in sports media ?
> 
> Chuck Herron   Tech (NOT McCormick)  '85
> 
> 
> 
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From jeff.beamsley at hilgraeve.com  Wed Sep 12 08:25:03 2007
From: jeff.beamsley at hilgraeve.com (Jeff Beamsley)
Date: Wed Sep 12 08:21:06 2007
Subject: [NU Sports] Medill
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	<33C4F11DF8639640A51C79CB484166FF031D20B9@RKFMLVEM02.e2k.ad.ge.com>
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Alan,

Thanks for the thoughtful post.

The role that news media in general and newspapers in particular are playing
in the marketplace is clearly changing.  So the role of those who write for
those news sources is going to have to change too.

The unstoppable force is the ease with which any individual can post their
own content on the web.  So just being able to write is no longer sufficient
to label someone a journalist.

Those who do have a formal education in journalism, however, understand the
ethical responsibilities associated with reporting the news.  That's where I
think there is opportunity.  Those who just have a point of view can usually
find sources on the net to support that point of view.  Those who are
interested in information free of personal bias are eventually going to tire
of trying to sort that out on their own.  They will gravitate to sources that
they can trust.  Those sources will rely on journalists who not only can
write, but also understand their role in society.  So though newspapers may
not survive as entities who distribute content on paper, there will be a role
for trusted organizations who will help their subscribers make sense of the
world (I'm working hard here to not use any Fox News tag lines).  

Hopefully Medill will continue to produce talented writers who have both
vision and integrity.

Jeff



-----Original Message-----
From: nwu-sports-bounces@tssi.com [mailto:nwu-sports-bounces@tssi.com] On
Behalf Of Abrahamson, Alan (NBC Universal)
Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2007 2:19 AM
To: CHerron604@aol.com; nwu-sports@tssi.com
Subject: [NU Sports] Medill


 I will try to provide at least one perspective to the questions raised by
Mr. Herron. Mr. Nolan: I seek your approval for this post, which is not
related to football or sports.
 From where I sit, the dean is a visionary. Visionaries, by definition, are
not unanimous approval-getters. Nor are they seeking such approval.
Disagreement and even dissent are vital pieces of the dialogue.
 In that regard, the dean is exercising significant leadership. He has what
experts in leadership study call the "double vision thing." He can see where
we are now and where he believes the school ought to be x years down the
line, and he is trying amid the clamor and dissent to secure buy-in -- from a
variety of constituencies -- to implement change.
 The dean is seeking to implement that change because the journalism
landscape is undergoing a fundamental evolution. Technological and
demographic change are formidable currents but hardly the only factors
reshaping businesses in which Medill grads are expected not only to compete
for jobs but, as their careers progress, assume leading roles.  
 It's unclear whether the steps the dean is taking are the "right" ones.
No one can tell the future. 
 But I admire his self-confidence and his willingness to take action.
 I would also suggest he is ahead, maybe way ahead, of the power curve.
This -- in concert with the confidence he projects -- may well be another
reason the changes he is proposing are generating push-back, sometimes
considerable.
 Dean Lavine was out in Los Angeles last month and gave a talk to the Medill
Club of Southern California, which I attended.
 There is ample material on the Medill website explaining the direction,
intent and details of the revised curriculum, and I would urge any and all
interested to give it a long and thoughtful read. You can also read there
about intriguing proposals aimed at taking the Medill and Northwestern brands
overseas -- to places such as Qatar, for instance.
 I did not hear at the Medill event that day in the Mulholland hills, nor
have I heard at any point in the process, the dean say anything that would
suggest even the slightest retreat from the basics of good journalism -- the
essence of a Medill education, with its emphasis on fairness and accuracy.
 However, he did make plain that Medill must find ways to enable students to
learn how to tell a story -- on whatever platform -- that will engage
readers, listeners and watchers. 
 By platform, he said, he means newspapers, radio, TV, the web, cellular
phones, video games. That's right -- phones, games, whatever.
 I used "readers, listeners and watchers" deliberately. Here is the word that
seems to really alarm his critics: consumers.
 Even though we are all consumers of news, of sports, of whatever.
 Traditionally, of course, there is a "wall" between the business and
editorial sides of news operations. A major concern appears to be whether
Lavine is suggesting the "wall" ought to be breached or weakened.
 I do not believe he is so suggesting.
 What he is trying to get at, I believe, is the exact thing all of us in the
business are trying to figure out. Which is: how to produce content that will
compel people to pay for it, on one or multiple platforms -- without
pandering, without condescending, without violating the basics of journalism.
 It's hardly a disaster, or even new, to acknowledge that newspapers (and by
extension other platforms) must make money to survive. I learned that in
theory and then most emphatically in practice when I was at Medill, in the
late 1970s -- when, during March of my sophomore year, one of the last of the
afternoon newspapers, the Chicago Daily News, went out of business. The world
had changed around it and the paper couldn't respond. 
 Any/all thoughts, observations welcome. After all, we've got three more days
'til the Duke tilt.
 Alan - Medill '80  
    




-----Original Message-----
From: nwu-sports-bounces@tssi.com [mailto:nwu-sports-bounces@tssi.com]
On Behalf Of CHerron604@aol.com
Sent: Tuesday, September 11, 2007 9:07 PM
To: sjtruog@yahoo.com; nwu-sports@tssi.com
Subject: Re: [NU Sports] Campus programming ...

Stephen's post reminded me of the most recent issue of Chicago Magazine.  I
don't generally read this magazine, not usually caring which  gala ball was
attended by who, or which trendy club is opening up this  month.  But a
friend passed it along to me based on the cover headline 'The  Battle at NU's
Journalism School' (just below a monkey perched on a woman's  shoulder).
 
Basically, the author, Dirk Johnson, described how new Medill head John
Lavine was blowing up the Medill curriculum, replacing it with concentrations
in 'new media' and marketing.  It sounded like students, faculty and alums
were not happy about this.  
 
Anybody know anything about these developments ?  The story was kind  of
short, and left me with quite a few questions.  Should we be worried about
Medill ?  Do we risk losing our very high Journalism School ranking  ?  Could
we lose our dominant position in sports media ?
 
Chuck Herron   Tech (NOT McCormick)  '85 



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From nolan at romaine.tssi.com  Wed Sep 12 10:36:23 2007
From: nolan at romaine.tssi.com (Mike Nolan)
Date: Wed Sep 12 10:36:27 2007
Subject: [NU Sports] Medill
In-Reply-To: <33C4F11DF8639640A51C79CB484166FF031D20B9@RKFMLVEM02.e2k.ad.ge.com>
	from "Abrahamson, Alan (NBC Universal)" at Sep 12,
	2007 02:18:31 AM
Message-ID: <200709121536.l8CFaNLY005417@romaine.tssi.com>

>  I will try to provide at least one perspective to the questions raised
> by Mr. Herron. Mr. Nolan: I seek your approval for this post, which is
> not related to football or sports.

Approval not needed, topics relevant to Northwestern itself have always
been allowed, as long as they don't cross over into discussions
about politics or religion, issues about which opinions tend to be even
more intense than sports.  :-)
--
Mike Nolan

From mlinhardt at netzero.net  Wed Sep 12 10:44:20 2007
From: mlinhardt at netzero.net (mlinhardt@netzero.net)
Date: Wed Sep 12 10:41:58 2007
Subject: [NU Sports] Medill
Message-ID: <20070912.104420.16591.0@webmail10.dca.untd.com>

As purely a consumer of news I find my habits have changed.

Last year I dropped my daily newspaper(Trib or Daily Herald -- who ever made me the least mad in regards to delivery and coverage), which I subscribed to since junior year of college.

This year I find that I no longer visit content sites directly with the exception of ESPN.  I now use news.google.com for topic searches and based on experience choose among the different sources.

The only 2 direct news sources I visit are the economist and the chosun ilbo(korean news in english).

I do still subscribe to magazines, but entirely hobby related(running/triathlon) and not news.  If the subscription fees weren't so cheap and if it wasn't such convenient "bathroom" reading I would defintely be completely online.

My only other concession to "old" media is NPR during the daily 
commute.

Medill has to do what it takes to keep current.  The same way tech keeps rearranging my department(Computer Science) to keep it current with technology's advance.  If my department did not look considerably different 10 years from now I would be highly disappointed.
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From neilkaplan at yahoo.com  Mon Sep 10 11:37:31 2007
From: neilkaplan at yahoo.com (Neil Kaplan)
Date: Wed Sep 12 12:49:06 2007
Subject: [NU Sports] Our coaching shortfalls
Message-ID: <134829.1439.qm@web54103.mail.re2.yahoo.com>


_________________________________________
https://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=3537793710081435156&postID=7747887502271697221


Some interesting discussion on Lake the Posts.

I am of two minds re: our coaching situation:

Our offensive and defensive game plans were awful as has been talked about.

OTOH, the reason we won is that we did not beat ourselves as we so often do.  Minimal penalties and we all can agree on the importance of special teams.  We miss those FG's, have a few bad punts and we lose easily.  



That said, a win is a win and the particulars will be long forgotten on this one.  I am also intrigued by cjb's newfound mobility.  The spread offense is totally hampered if the QB cannot run.  Seems like we should throw deep on the first play and run the option on the second play every game.....


From neilkaplan at yahoo.com  Wed Sep 12 12:19:21 2007
From: neilkaplan at yahoo.com (Neil Kaplan)
Date: Wed Sep 12 12:49:07 2007
Subject: [NU Sports] Medill
Message-ID: <833241.57585.qm@web54107.mail.re2.yahoo.com>

The other unstoppable force is the fundamental restructuring of the advertising market which is changing the world of journalism - especially print.

The reality is that the news operations of virtually every newspaper in america have been subsidized by classified advertising (among other forms of advertising).  When I was Alan's business side compadre at the LA Times - gross profit margins from classified were $210M/year.  The entire net profits of the paper that year (1999) were around 165M.  You can imagine what has happened to revenues (and margins) since then.  Like it or not, the majority of journalistic enterprises in this country are now faced with economic realities that will get worse - with no chance of getting better.

There will always be a market for the best of the best, a la our colleague Alan, however, the longer term implications of this and the impact that the press will continue to have in our country is a great debate and one that I'm glad is being discussed at Medill (I'm a Kellogg grad myself).   Also, there are no people who protest more than journalists who are laid off -such that public perception may be worse than reality.   To Roy's point, we see bloggers and amateurs with far more depth on subjects we care about (see SJT and lake the posts).  I'm not sure that we are any worse off from having more choice.  If you are a mediocre journalist, you are definitely worse off.

NK
 
_________________________________________
NEIL KAPLAN
neilkaplan@yahoo.com

----- Original Message ----
From: Jeff Beamsley <jeff.beamsley@hilgraeve.com>
To: nwu-sports@tssi.com
Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2007 6:25:03 AM
Subject: RE: [NU Sports] Medill

Alan,

Thanks for the thoughtful post.

The role that news media in general and newspapers in particular are playing
in the marketplace is clearly changing.  So the role of those who write for
those news sources is going to have to change too.

The unstoppable force is the ease with which any individual can post their
own content on the web.  So just being able to write is no longer sufficient
to label someone a journalist.

Those who do have a formal education in journalism, however, understand the
ethical responsibilities associated with reporting the news.  That's where I
think there is opportunity.  Those who just have a point of view can usually
find sources on the net to support that point of view.  Those who are
interested in information free of personal bias are eventually going to tire
of trying to sort that out on their own.  They will gravitate to sources that
they can trust.  Those sources will rely on journalists who not only can
write, but also understand their role in society.  So though newspapers may
not survive as entities who distribute content on paper, there will be a role
for trusted organizations who will help their subscribers make sense of the
world (I'm working hard here to not use any Fox News tag lines).  

Hopefully Medill will continue to produce talented writers who have both
vision and integrity.

Jeff



-----Original Message-----
From: nwu-sports-bounces@tssi.com [mailto:nwu-sports-bounces@tssi.com] On
Behalf Of Abrahamson, Alan (NBC Universal)
Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2007 2:19 AM
To: CHerron604@aol.com; nwu-sports@tssi.com
Subject: [NU Sports] Medill


 I will try to provide at least one perspective to the questions raised by
Mr. Herron. Mr. Nolan: I seek your approval for this post, which is not
related to football or sports.
 From where I sit, the dean is a visionary. Visionaries, by definition, are
not unanimous approval-getters. Nor are they seeking such approval.
Disagreement and even dissent are vital pieces of the dialogue.
 In that regard, the dean is exercising significant leadership. He has what
experts in leadership study call the "double vision thing." He can see where
we are now and where he believes the school ought to be x years down the
line, and he is trying amid the clamor and dissent to secure buy-in -- from a
variety of constituencies -- to implement change.
 The dean is seeking to implement that change because the journalism
landscape is undergoing a fundamental evolution. Technological and
demographic change are formidable currents but hardly the only factors
reshaping businesses in which Medill grads are expected not only to compete
for jobs but, as their careers progress, assume leading roles.  
 It's unclear whether the steps the dean is taking are the "right" ones.
No one can tell the future. 
 But I admire his self-confidence and his willingness to take action.
 I would also suggest he is ahead, maybe way ahead, of the power curve.
This -- in concert with the confidence he projects -- may well be another
reason the changes he is proposing are generating push-back, sometimes
considerable.
 Dean Lavine was out in Los Angeles last month and gave a talk to the Medill
Club of Southern California, which I attended.
 There is ample material on the Medill website explaining the direction,
intent and details of the revised curriculum, and I would urge any and all
interested to give it a long and thoughtful read. You can also read there
about intriguing proposals aimed at taking the Medill and Northwestern brands
overseas -- to places such as Qatar, for instance.
 I did not hear at the Medill event that day in the Mulholland hills, nor
have I heard at any point in the process, the dean say anything that would
suggest even the slightest retreat from the basics of good journalism -- the
essence of a Medill education, with its emphasis on fairness and accuracy.
 However, he did make plain that Medill must find ways to enable students to
learn how to tell a story -- on whatever platform -- that will engage
readers, listeners and watchers. 
 By platform, he said, he means newspapers, radio, TV, the web, cellular
phones, video games. That's right -- phones, games, whatever.
 I used "readers, listeners and watchers" deliberately. Here is the word that
seems to really alarm his critics: consumers.
 Even though we are all consumers of news, of sports, of whatever.
 Traditionally, of course, there is a "wall" between the business and
editorial sides of news operations. A major concern appears to be whether
Lavine is suggesting the "wall" ought to be breached or weakened.
 I do not believe he is so suggesting.
 What he is trying to get at, I believe, is the exact thing all of us in the
business are trying to figure out. Which is: how to produce content that will
compel people to pay for it, on one or multiple platforms -- without
pandering, without condescending, without violating the basics of journalism.
 It's hardly a disaster, or even new, to acknowledge that newspapers (and by
extension other platforms) must make money to survive. I learned that in
theory and then most emphatically in practice when I was at Medill, in the
late 1970s -- when, during March of my sophomore year, one of the last of the
afternoon newspapers, the Chicago Daily News, went out of business. The world
had changed around it and the paper couldn't respond. 
 Any/all thoughts, observations welcome. After all, we've got three more days
'til the Duke tilt.
 Alan - Medill '80  
    




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On Behalf Of CHerron604@aol.com
Sent: Tuesday, September 11, 2007 9:07 PM
To: sjtruog@yahoo.com; nwu-sports@tssi.com
Subject: Re: [NU Sports] Campus programming ...

Stephen's post reminded me of the most recent issue of Chicago Magazine.  I
don't generally read this magazine, not usually caring which  gala ball was
attended by who, or which trendy club is opening up this  month.  But a
friend passed it along to me based on the cover headline 'The  Battle at NU's
Journalism School' (just below a monkey perched on a woman's  shoulder).
 
Basically, the author, Dirk Johnson, described how new Medill head John
Lavine was blowing up the Medill curriculum, replacing it with concentrations
in 'new media' and marketing.  It sounded like students, faculty and alums
were not happy about this.  
 
Anybody know anything about these developments ?  The story was kind  of
short, and left me with quite a few questions.  Should we be worried about
Medill ?  Do we risk losing our very high Journalism School ranking  ?  Could
we lose our dominant position in sports media ?
 
Chuck Herron   Tech (NOT McCormick)  '85 



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From nolan at romaine.tssi.com  Wed Sep 12 13:37:10 2007
From: nolan at romaine.tssi.com (Mike Nolan)
Date: Wed Sep 12 13:37:14 2007
Subject: [NU Sports] Medill
In-Reply-To: <20070912.104420.16591.0@webmail10.dca.untd.com> from
	"mlinhardt@netzero.net" at Sep 12, 2007 03:44:20 PM
Message-ID: <200709121837.l8CIbAOZ006142@romaine.tssi.com>

> Last year I dropped my daily newspaper(Trib or Daily Herald -- who ever made me the least mad in regards to delivery and coverage), which I subscribed to since junior year of college.
> 
> This year I find that I no longer visit content sites directly with the exception of ESPN.  I now use news.google.com for topic searches and based on experience choose among the different sources.

Except to see if the Cubs lost and on football Saturdays, I don't visit 
ESPN.com as much as I used to.  Their site keeps getting more annoying.

We still get the daily newspaper here, though I doubt I look at it more than 
2 or 3 times a week except maybe to glance at the front page if it's still
on the table at supper time.  I probably hit that paper's website more often 
than that.  I don't even read the comics every day.  Sometimes I think the 
main reason we still get it is that my wife likes to do the crossword 
puzzle and jumble.

I look at several newspaper websites more frequently, my personal favorite 
being New Jersey Online, not because of any relationship I have with New 
Jersey, but because I think it's one of the better organized such sites,
and they don't make me register for access!  http://www.nj.com/newsflash

I also subscribe to the Wall Street Journal's online site (the only news
site I pay for access to, I wonder how Rupert Murdoch's acquisition of Dow
Jones will affect that), and I tend to look at the Washington Post's 
website every day or two, because it tends to have more political news on
the front page than most newspaper websites.   

I'm glad to hear Medill is trying to keep up with the times, though 
journalism skills should remain a constant regardless of the medium.
(Journalism is still 'literature in a hurry', as Matthew Arnold noted
in the 19th century.)

At times I have my doubts that really happens, but maybe that's a 
discussion for a different time, and possibly a different place.  A few 
years was invited to lecture to the 'Sports Journalism' class at the 
University of Nebraska (because of my long experience with online sports 
forums), the attitudes of the students towards online journalism and the
standards that should apply to it worried me, hopefully they've changed 
since then.

Several ago a List member thought he was being daring when he included
some of his posts to the list about the Cats in his portfolio.  (I don't 
know if that helped him get a job or not.)  I wonder if having online 
experience is still considered unusual?  I suspect not, if Medill is any 
gauge.
--
Mike Nolan

From johnadeg at comcast.net  Wed Sep 12 18:37:03 2007
From: johnadeg at comcast.net (johnadeg@comcast.net)
Date: Wed Sep 12 18:32:34 2007
Subject: [NU Sports] Medill
Message-ID: <091220072337.28829.46E8781E000D77E80000709D2215575114090A0B0E02080106@comcast.net>

People, especially those  in the news/TV business ignore the fact that their employers are there to make money.  It doesn't help either that there is little to chose from among the networks and major newspapers and magazines.  The all mouth the liberal/democrat party line.   Maybe that is the reason too that local newspapers seem to be doing reasonably well.  They cover local news and pick up syndicated columnists to fill in their editorial pages.  But, primarily their focus is local news.

I don't know how many liberal arts courses or Medilll students are require to take, but I'm too often appalled by the ignorance of their subject matter that newspaper and magazine writers show too frequently.


John DeGroat
 -------------- Original message ----------------------
From: Neil Kaplan <neilkaplan@yahoo.com>
> The other unstoppable force is the fundamental restructuring of the advertising 
> market which is changing the world of journalism - especially print.
> 
> The reality is that the news operations of virtually every newspaper in america 
> have been subsidized by classified advertising (among other forms of 
> advertising).  When I was Alan's business side compadre at the LA Times - gross 
> profit margins from classified were $210M/year.  The entire net profits of the 
> paper that year (1999) were around 165M.  You can imagine what has happened to 
> revenues (and margins) since then.  Like it or not, the majority of journalistic 
> enterprises in this country are now faced with economic realities that will get 
> worse - with no chance of getting better.
> 
> There will always be a market for the best of the best, a la our colleague Alan, 
> however, the longer term implications of this and the impact that the press will 
> continue to have in our country is a great debate and one that I'm glad is being 
> discussed at Medill (I'm a Kellogg grad myself).   Also, there are no people who 
> protest more than journalists who are laid off -such that public perception may 
> be worse than reality.   To Roy's point, we see bloggers and amateurs with far 
> more depth on subjects we care about (see SJT and lake the posts).  I'm not sure 
> that we are any worse off from having more choice.  If you are a mediocre 
> journalist, you are definitely worse off.
> 
> NK
>  
> _________________________________________
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> neilkaplan@yahoo.com
> 
> ----- Original Message ----
> From: Jeff Beamsley <jeff.beamsley@hilgraeve.com>
> To: nwu-sports@tssi.com
> Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2007 6:25:03 AM
> Subject: RE: [NU Sports] Medill
> 
> Alan,
> 
> Thanks for the thoughtful post.
> 
> The role that news media in general and newspapers in particular are playing
> in the marketplace is clearly changing.  So the role of those who write for
> those news sources is going to have to change too.
> 
> The unstoppable force is the ease with which any individual can post their
> own content on the web.  So just being able to write is no longer sufficient
> to label someone a journalist.
> 
> Those who do have a formal education in journalism, however, understand the
> ethical responsibilities associated with reporting the news.  That's where I
> think there is opportunity.  Those who just have a point of view can usually
> find sources on the net to support that point of view.  Those who are
> interested in information free of personal bias are eventually going to tire
> of trying to sort that out on their own.  They will gravitate to sources that
> they can trust.  Those sources will rely on journalists who not only can
> write, but also understand their role in society.  So though newspapers may
> not survive as entities who distribute content on paper, there will be a role
> for trusted organizations who will help their subscribers make sense of the
> world (I'm working hard here to not use any Fox News tag lines).  
> 
> Hopefully Medill will continue to produce talented writers who have both
> vision and integrity.
> 
> Jeff
> 
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: nwu-sports-bounces@tssi.com [mailto:nwu-sports-bounces@tssi.com] On
> Behalf Of Abrahamson, Alan (NBC Universal)
> Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2007 2:19 AM
> To: CHerron604@aol.com; nwu-sports@tssi.com
> Subject: [NU Sports] Medill
> 
> 
>  I will try to provide at least one perspective to the questions raised by
> Mr. Herron. Mr. Nolan: I seek your approval for this post, which is not
> related to football or sports.
>  From where I sit, the dean is a visionary. Visionaries, by definition, are
> not unanimous approval-getters. Nor are they seeking such approval.
> Disagreement and even dissent are vital pieces of the dialogue.
>  In that regard, the dean is exercising significant leadership. He has what
> experts in leadership study call the "double vision thing." He can see where
> we are now and where he believes the school ought to be x years down the
> line, and he is trying amid the clamor and dissent to secure buy-in -- from a
> variety of constituencies -- to implement change.
>  The dean is seeking to implement that change because the journalism
> landscape is undergoing a fundamental evolution. Technological and
> demographic change are formidable currents but hardly the only factors
> reshaping businesses in which Medill grads are expected not only to compete
> for jobs but, as their careers progress, assume leading roles.  
>  It's unclear whether the steps the dean is taking are the "right" ones.
> No one can tell the future. 
>  But I admire his self-confidence and his willingness to take action.
>  I would also suggest he is ahead, maybe way ahead, of the power curve.
> This -- in concert with the confidence he projects -- may well be another
> reason the changes he is proposing are generating push-back, sometimes
> considerable.
>  Dean Lavine was out in Los Angeles last month and gave a talk to the Medill
> Club of Southern California, which I attended.
>  There is ample material on the Medill website explaining the direction,
> intent and details of the revised curriculum, and I would urge any and all
> interested to give it a long and thoughtful read. You can also read there
> about intriguing proposals aimed at taking the Medill and Northwestern brands
> overseas -- to places such as Qatar, for instance.
>  I did not hear at the Medill event that day in the Mulholland hills, nor
> have I heard at any point in the process, the dean say anything that would
> suggest even the slightest retreat from the basics of good journalism -- the
> essence of a Medill education, with its emphasis on fairness and accuracy.
>  However, he did make plain that Medill must find ways to enable students to
> learn how to tell a story -- on whatever platform -- that will engage
> readers, listeners and watchers. 
>  By platform, he said, he means newspapers, radio, TV, the web, cellular
> phones, video games. That's right -- phones, games, whatever.
>  I used "readers, listeners and watchers" deliberately. Here is the word that
> seems to really alarm his critics: consumers.
>  Even though we are all consumers of news, of sports, of whatever.
>  Traditionally, of course, there is a "wall" between the business and
> editorial sides of news operations. A major concern appears to be whether
> Lavine is suggesting the "wall" ought to be breached or weakened.
>  I do not believe he is so suggesting.
>  What he is trying to get at, I believe, is the exact thing all of us in the
> business are trying to figure out. Which is: how to produce content that will
> compel people to pay for it, on one or multiple platforms -- without
> pandering, without condescending, without violating the basics of journalism.
>  It's hardly a disaster, or even new, to acknowledge that newspapers (and by
> extension other platforms) must make money to survive. I learned that in
> theory and then most emphatically in practice when I was at Medill, in the
> late 1970s -- when, during March of my sophomore year, one of the last of the
> afternoon newspapers, the Chicago Daily News, went out of business. The world
> had changed around it and the paper couldn't respond. 
>  Any/all thoughts, observations welcome. After all, we've got three more days
> 'til the Duke tilt.
>  Alan - Medill '80  
>     
> 
> 
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: nwu-sports-bounces@tssi.com [mailto:nwu-sports-bounces@tssi.com]
> On Behalf Of CHerron604@aol.com
> Sent: Tuesday, September 11, 2007 9:07 PM
> To: sjtruog@yahoo.com; nwu-sports@tssi.com
> Subject: Re: [NU Sports] Campus programming ...
> 
> Stephen's post reminded me of the most recent issue of Chicago Magazine.  I
> don't generally read this magazine, not usually caring which  gala ball was
> attended by who, or which trendy club is opening up this  month.  But a
> friend passed it along to me based on the cover headline 'The  Battle at NU's
> Journalism School' (just below a monkey perched on a woman's  shoulder).
>  
> Basically, the author, Dirk Johnson, described how new Medill head John
> Lavine was blowing up the Medill curriculum, replacing it with concentrations
> in 'new media' and marketing.  It sounded like students, faculty and alums
> were not happy about this.  
>  
> Anybody know anything about these developments ?  The story was kind  of
> short, and left me with quite a few questions.  Should we be worried about
> Medill ?  Do we risk losing our very high Journalism School ranking  ?  Could
> we lose our dominant position in sports media ?
>  
> Chuck Herron   Tech (NOT McCormick)  '85 
> 
> 
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From johnadeg at comcast.net  Wed Sep 12 18:47:26 2007
From: johnadeg at comcast.net (johnadeg@comcast.net)
Date: Wed Sep 12 18:42:55 2007
Subject: [NU Sports] Our coaching shortfalls
Message-ID: <091220072347.13556.46E87A8E0008F59D000034F42215575114090A0B0E02080106@comcast.net>

Look on the bright side.  At half time, NU made some adjustments instead of sticking with what didn't' work in the first half.  Also, we have a kicking game for the first time in years.  That can make the difference between winning and losing.  I agree there were some unfathomable plays called, but considering everything it could have been a loss.  I agree with whoever said it, but Duke will eventually win a game.  The trick is to make sure that it doesn't happen on Saturday.

John DeGroat
 -------------- Original message ----------------------
From: Neil Kaplan <neilkaplan@yahoo.com>
> 
> _________________________________________
> https://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=3537793710081435156&postID=774788750227
> 1697221
> 
> 
> Some interesting discussion on Lake the Posts.
> 
> I am of two minds re: our coaching situation:
> 
> Our offensive and defensive game plans were awful as has been talked about.
> 
> OTOH, the reason we won is that we did not beat ourselves as we so often do.  
> Minimal penalties and we all can agree on the importance of special teams.  We 
> miss those FG's, have a few bad punts and we lose easily.  
> 
> 
> 
> That said, a win is a win and the particulars will be long forgotten on this 
> one.  I am also intrigued by cjb's newfound mobility.  The spread offense is 
> totally hampered if the QB cannot run.  Seems like we should throw deep on the 
> first play and run the option on the second play every game.....
> 
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From rstetson at capps-assoc.com  Thu Sep 13 07:28:20 2007
From: rstetson at capps-assoc.com (Roy Lamberton)
Date: Thu Sep 13 07:16:27 2007
Subject: [NU Sports] Our coaching shortfalls
In-Reply-To: <134829.1439.qm@web54103.mail.re2.yahoo.com>
References: <134829.1439.qm@web54103.mail.re2.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <001801c7f601$91f018e0$b5d04aa0$@com>

Well, C.J. was recruited because he was both a runner [in the Baz/Kustok] style
and a good passer. NU has concentrated on his passing abilities, but his first
Spring appearance, in the practice building, Coach Walker let him take off the
green no contact jersey - he mainly ran the ball with full contact. Not sure if
I still have the post game interview with him, but I seem to recall he was 10
feet off the ground because he was able to hit and get hit.

I also remember Dubar talking about how the spread used the QB as the 2nd
running back to open up the game for the RB and make the packed box spread out
because the QB could take off an run.

The next game, after they all watch the film of CJ and the big score, 

Now, I don't denigrate the efforts of our coordinators. McGee is no dolt
[neither is Colby] - his game plans are designed to take advantage things they
see in the opponent's video. He knows that teams coming to play the Cats will
stack the box against Sutton, and play some kind of zone-man coverage to counter
our WR's. They try to disguise what they do, but that's the way defenses go
against the spread.

The way you open up the field is to pass the ball. Most of the QB runs are
designed to be on scrambles or on option plays without the fullback dive. No
dive back allows the linebackers to pursue the QB/RB Pitch guy but as Roberson
showed last Saturday, that pitch guy can really get loose if the D is thinking
pass - something set up by all the passing in the first half.

Watching the game on TV is deceptive since the camera zooms into the ball
carrier as the play develops - we never see what the guys down field are doing
unless the QB throws to one of them, or the color guy knows defenses and grabs a
replay of the wide angle camera.

I'm sure McGee is calling the plays based on what the guys upstairs see. If they
see one of the WR's on single coverage, they'll throw to him regardless of the
down because that's how the spread works - the pass sets up the run.

At least that's what it says in the book I read.... <g>

rsl

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> -----Original Message-----
> From: nwu-sports-bounces@tssi.com [mailto:nwu-sports-bounces@tssi.com] On
> Behalf Of Neil Kaplan
> Sent: Monday, September 10, 2007 12:38 PM
> To: nwu-sports@tssi.com
> Subject: [NU Sports] Our coaching shortfalls
> 
> 
> _________________________________________
> https://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=3537793710081435156&postID=7747887
> 502271697221
> 
> 
> Some interesting discussion on Lake the Posts.
> 
> I am of two minds re: our coaching situation:
> 
> Our offensive and defensive game plans were awful as has been talked about.
> 
> OTOH, the reason we won is that we did not beat ourselves as we so often
> do.  Minimal penalties and we all can agree on the importance of special
> teams.  We miss those FG's, have a few bad punts and we lose easily.
> 
> 
> 
> That said, a win is a win and the particulars will be long forgotten on
> this one.  I am also intrigued by cjb's newfound mobility.  The spread
> offense is totally hampered if the QB cannot run.  Seems like we should
> throw deep on the first play and run the option on the second play every
> game.....
> 
> 
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From CHerron604 at aol.com  Thu Sep 13 09:30:54 2007
From: CHerron604 at aol.com (CHerron604@aol.com)
Date: Thu Sep 13 09:29:35 2007
Subject: [NU Sports] Some Duke thoughts
Message-ID: <c6d.169b481e.341aa39e@aol.com>

- Duke hasn't won in 2 years (beat VMI 40-14 September 17, 2005 - 21 game  
losing streak)
 
- Duke hasn't beaten a D-I team since November 13, 2004 (beat Clemson  16-13)
 
- Duke ran for 15 yards against UConn
 
- Duke rushed for 84 yards against Virginia (99 in two games, so a 50-yard  
per game average)
 
- Duke lost a 'close' one to Virginia, 24-13, despite being outgained  324-229
 
- Virginia fumbled 3, lost 2
 
- 2 Virginia bad punt snaps led to 10 points for Duke
 
- 1 Virginia fumbled kickoff led to Duke's other 3 points
 
- Virginia also had a bad field goal snap, Duke blocked it, returned 61  
yards, but could not score
 
- Duke missed 3 field goals (26, 45 and 40 yards)
 
All this tells me that we MUST:
 
- limit Duke's ground game to their average - 50 or so
 
- limit Duke's offense to its average or less (they've been averaging 199  
yards/game on offense)
 
- perform well on special teams, no bad snaps, no turnovers (this I have  
high confidence in)
 
Duke has been giving up 400+ yards/game, we've been averaging 424  yards/game 
on offense
 
I am still concerned that Nevada had 185 yards against Nebraska, and 541  
yards against us
 
Our O-line and D-line need to show some dominance in this game - especially  
sacks and quarterback pressure
 
Chuck Herron   Tech '85
 
 



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From mlinhardt at netzero.net  Thu Sep 13 10:07:38 2007
From: mlinhardt at netzero.net (mlinhardt@netzero.net)
Date: Thu Sep 13 10:06:09 2007
Subject: [NU Sports] Our coaching shortfalls
Message-ID: <20070913.100738.25522.1@webmail03.dca.untd.com>

While I agree with 90% of what you wrote I just would like to add that with Baz we had designed runs, which I don't think you will see with CJ.

Options - yes
Roll-outs that turn into runs when the receivers are covered - yes
Broken play runs - yes
QB sneaks - we should, but we have refused, which I can not understand

I think this is both to protect CJ and that CJ is a stronger passer than Baz, but a weaker runner.  

-- "Roy Lamberton" <rstetson@capps-assoc.com> wrote:
Well, C.J. was recruited because he was both a runner [in the Baz/Kustok] style
and a good passer. NU has concentrated on his passing abilities, but his first
Spring appearance, in the practice building, Coach Walker let him take off the
green no contact jersey - he mainly ran the ball with full contact. Not sure if
I still have the post game interview with him, but I seem to recall he was 10
feet off the ground because he was able to hit and get hit.

I also remember Dubar talking about how the spread used the QB as the 2nd
running back to open up the game for the RB and make the packed box spread out
because the QB could take off an run.

The next game, after they all watch the film of CJ and the big score, 

Now, I don't denigrate the efforts of our coordinators. McGee is no dolt
[neither is Colby] - his game plans are designed to take advantage things they
see in the opponent's video. He knows that teams coming to play the Cats will
stack the box against Sutton, and play some kind of zone-man coverage to counter
our WR's. They try to disguise what they do, but that's the way defenses go
against the spread.

The way you open up the field is to pass the ball. Most of the QB runs are
designed to be on scrambles or on option plays without the fullback dive. No
dive back allows the linebackers to pursue the QB/RB Pitch guy but as Roberson
showed last Saturday, that pitch guy can really get loose if the D is thinking
pass - something set up by all the passing in the first half.

Watching the game on TV is deceptive since the camera zooms into the ball
carrier as the play develops - we never see what the guys down field are doing
unless the QB throws to one of them, or the color guy knows defenses and grabs a
replay of the wide angle camera.

I'm sure McGee is calling the plays based on what the guys upstairs see. If they
see one of the WR's on single coverage, they'll throw to him regardless of the
down because that's how the spread works - the pass sets up the run.

At least that's what it says in the book I read.... <g>

rsl

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> -----Original Message-----
> From: nwu-sports-bounces@tssi.com [mailto:nwu-sports-bounces@tssi.com] On
> Behalf Of Neil Kaplan
> Sent: Monday, September 10, 2007 12:38 PM
> To: nwu-sports@tssi.com
> Subject: [NU Sports] Our coaching shortfalls
> 
> 
> _________________________________________
> https://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=3537793710081435156&postID=7747887
> 502271697221
> 
> 
> Some interesting discussion on Lake the Posts.
> 
> I am of two minds re: our coaching situation:
> 
> Our offensive and defensive game plans were awful as has been talked about.
> 
> OTOH, the reason we won is that we did not beat ourselves as we so often
> do.  Minimal penalties and we all can agree on the importance of special
> teams.  We miss those FG's, have a few bad punts and we lose easily.
> 
> 
> 
> That said, a win is a win and the particulars will be long forgotten on
> this one.  I am also intrigued by cjb's newfound mobility.  The spread
> offense is totally hampered if the QB cannot run.  Seems like we should
> throw deep on the first play and run the option on the second play every
> game.....
> 
> 
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From rstetson at capps-assoc.com  Thu Sep 13 12:17:25 2007
From: rstetson at capps-assoc.com (Roy Lamberton)
Date: Thu Sep 13 12:05:25 2007
Subject: [NU Sports] Our coaching shortfalls
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Well, the option is a designed run, its just that the QB has to take his cue
from the DE and CB to see what he does with the ball.

Baz did have a QB draw play, but I think McGee's background as an option/rushing
QB who was injured a lot effects some of his planning. Dunbar didn't have that
worry of injury on his mind, but he still didn't like the QB Sneak - even though
Trevor Rees was a master at opening up the middle down in Texas [with Roberson
also running thru the center of their line.]

I would like to see the QB draw back in the book, maybe its just not time to run
it. That first spring game, where CJ got a chance to show his rushing, was
highlighted by several QB Draws, but I think McGee was more concerned with WR's
back then.

rsl 

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> From: nwu-sports-bounces@tssi.com [mailto:nwu-sports-bounces@tssi.com] On
> Behalf Of mlinhardt@netzero.net
> Sent: Thursday, September 13, 2007 11:08 AM
> To: nwu-sports@tssi.com
> Cc: Maureen.Linhardt@plexus.com
> Subject: RE: [NU Sports] Our coaching shortfalls
> 
> While I agree with 90% of what you wrote I just would like to add that with
> Baz we had designed runs, which I don't think you will see with CJ.
> 
> Options - yes
> Roll-outs that turn into runs when the receivers are covered - yes
> Broken play runs - yes
> QB sneaks - we should, but we have refused, which I can not understand
> 
> I think this is both to protect CJ and that CJ is a stronger passer than
> Baz, but a weaker runner.
> 
> -- "Roy Lamberton" <rstetson@capps-assoc.com> wrote:
> Well, C.J. was recruited because he was both a runner [in the Baz/Kustok]
> style
> and a good passer. NU has concentrated on his passing abilities, but his
> first
> Spring appearance, in the practice building, Coach Walker let him take off
> the
> green no contact jersey - he mainly ran the ball with full contact. Not
> sure if
> I still have the post game interview with him, but I seem to recall he was
> 10
> feet off the ground because he was able to hit and get hit.
> 
> I also remember Dubar talking about how the spread used the QB as the 2nd
> running back to open up the game for the RB and make the packed box spread
> out
> because the QB could take off an run.
> 
> The next game, after they all watch the film of CJ and the big score,
> 
> Now, I don't denigrate the efforts of our coordinators. McGee is no dolt
> [neither is Colby] - his game plans are designed to take advantage things
> they
> see in the opponent's video. He knows that teams coming to play the Cats
> will
> stack the box against Sutton, and play some kind of zone-man coverage to
> counter
> our WR's. They try to disguise what they do, but that's the way defenses go
> against the spread.
> 
> The way you open up the field is to pass the ball. Most of the QB runs are
> designed to be on scrambles or on option plays without the fullback dive.
> No
> dive back allows the linebackers to pursue the QB/RB Pitch guy but as
> Roberson
> showed last Saturday, that pitch guy can really get loose if the D is
> thinking
> pass - something set up by all the passing in the first half.
> 
> Watching the game on TV is deceptive since the camera zooms into the ball
> carrier as the play develops - we never see what the guys down field are
> doing
> unless the QB throws to one of them, or the color guy knows defenses and
> grabs a
> replay of the wide angle camera.
> 
> I'm sure McGee is calling the plays based on what the guys upstairs see. If
> they
> see one of the WR's on single coverage, they'll throw to him regardless of
> the
> down because that's how the spread works - the pass sets up the run.
> 
> At least that's what it says in the book I read.... <g>
> 
> rsl
> 
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> (http://www.purplewildcats.com)
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> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: nwu-sports-bounces@tssi.com [mailto:nwu-sports-bounces@tssi.com] On
> > Behalf Of Neil Kaplan
> > Sent: Monday, September 10, 2007 12:38 PM
> > To: nwu-sports@tssi.com
> > Subject: [NU Sports] Our coaching shortfalls
> >
> >
> > _________________________________________
> >
> https://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=3537793710081435156&postID=7747887
> > 502271697221
> >
> >
> > Some interesting discussion on Lake the Posts.
> >
> > I am of two minds re: our coaching situation:
> >
> > Our offensive and defensive game plans were awful as has been talked
> about.
> >
> > OTOH, the reason we won is that we did not beat ourselves as we so often
> > do.  Minimal penalties and we all can agree on the importance of special
> > teams.  We miss those FG's, have a few bad punts and we lose easily.
> >
> >
> >
> > That said, a win is a win and the particulars will be long forgotten on
> > this one.  I am also intrigued by cjb's newfound mobility.  The spread
> > offense is totally hampered if the QB cannot run.  Seems like we should
> > throw deep on the first play and run the option on the second play every
> > game.....
> >
> >
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From jeff.beamsley at hilgraeve.com  Thu Sep 13 12:37:03 2007
From: jeff.beamsley at hilgraeve.com (Jeff Beamsley)
Date: Thu Sep 13 12:33:02 2007
Subject: [NU Sports] Our coaching shortfalls
In-Reply-To: <000301c7f629$f7179b80$e546d280$@com>
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I agree that the game is quickly moving to the "vince young" model of QB.  

The challenge for NU is that because these guys are currently "freaks" of
nature - big, fast, smart, and can throw - we are not likely to be in the
running for many of them.  We are likely to get a shot at those who are
lacking in one of those categories.  Since "smart" is a given, then we are
likely to get those who are slow and or small.  The ones that can't throw get
converted into receivers <g>.

The problem with small is if they are part of the running game, they are more
fragile.  Baz is great example of someone with great heart, not great speed,
and played hurt most of his career.  

So I don't have a problem early in the season with CJ throwing a lot of
passes.  That part of the game has to work anyway and it keeps him healthy.
Wait until the BT season to show the rest of the playbook.

Jeff
 
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Behalf Of Roy Lamberton
Sent: Thursday, September 13, 2007 1:17 PM
To: mlinhardt@netzero.net; nwu-sports@tssi.com
Cc: Maureen.Linhardt@plexus.com
Subject: RE: [NU Sports] Our coaching shortfalls

Well, the option is a designed run, its just that the QB has to take his cue
from the DE and CB to see what he does with the ball.

Baz did have a QB draw play, but I think McGee's background as an
option/rushing QB who was injured a lot effects some of his planning. Dunbar
didn't have that worry of injury on his mind, but he still didn't like the QB
Sneak - even though Trevor Rees was a master at opening up the middle down in
Texas [with Roberson also running thru the center of their line.]

I would like to see the QB draw back in the book, maybe its just not time to
run it. That first spring game, where CJ got a chance to show his rushing,
was highlighted by several QB Draws, but I think McGee was more concerned
with WR's back then.

rsl 

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> From: nwu-sports-bounces@tssi.com [mailto:nwu-sports-bounces@tssi.com] 
> On Behalf Of mlinhardt@netzero.net
> Sent: Thursday, September 13, 2007 11:08 AM
> To: nwu-sports@tssi.com
> Cc: Maureen.Linhardt@plexus.com
> Subject: RE: [NU Sports] Our coaching shortfalls
> 
> While I agree with 90% of what you wrote I just would like to add that 
> with Baz we had designed runs, which I don't think you will see with CJ.
> 
> Options - yes
> Roll-outs that turn into runs when the receivers are covered - yes 
> Broken play runs - yes QB sneaks - we should, but we have refused, 
> which I can not understand
> 
> I think this is both to protect CJ and that CJ is a stronger passer 
> than Baz, but a weaker runner.
> 
> -- "Roy Lamberton" <rstetson@capps-assoc.com> wrote:
> Well, C.J. was recruited because he was both a runner [in the 
> Baz/Kustok] style and a good passer. NU has concentrated on his 
> passing abilities, but his first Spring appearance, in the practice 
> building, Coach Walker let him take off the green no contact jersey - 
> he mainly ran the ball with full contact. Not sure if I still have the 
> post game interview with him, but I seem to recall he was 10 feet off 
> the ground because he was able to hit and get hit.
> 
> I also remember Dubar talking about how the spread used the QB as the 
> 2nd running back to open up the game for the RB and make the packed 
> box spread out because the QB could take off an run.
> 
> The next game, after they all watch the film of CJ and the big score,
> 
> Now, I don't denigrate the efforts of our coordinators. McGee is no 
> dolt [neither is Colby] - his game plans are designed to take 
> advantage things they see in the opponent's video. He knows that teams 
> coming to play the Cats will stack the box against Sutton, and play 
> some kind of zone-man coverage to counter our WR's. They try to 
> disguise what they do, but that's the way defenses go against the 
> spread.
> 
> The way you open up the field is to pass the ball. Most of the QB runs 
> are designed to be on scrambles or on option plays without the fullback
dive.
> No
> dive back allows the linebackers to pursue the QB/RB Pitch guy but as 
> Roberson showed last Saturday, that pitch guy can really get loose if 
> the D is thinking pass - something set up by all the passing in the 
> first half.
> 
> Watching the game on TV is deceptive since the camera zooms into the 
> ball carrier as the play develops - we never see what the guys down 
> field are doing unless the QB throws to one of them, or the color guy 
> knows defenses and grabs a replay of the wide angle camera.
> 
> I'm sure McGee is calling the plays based on what the guys upstairs 
> see. If they see one of the WR's on single coverage, they'll throw to 
> him regardless of the down because that's how the spread works - the 
> pass sets up the run.
> 
> At least that's what it says in the book I read.... <g>
> 
> rsl
> 
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> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: nwu-sports-bounces@tssi.com 
> > [mailto:nwu-sports-bounces@tssi.com] On Behalf Of Neil Kaplan
> > Sent: Monday, September 10, 2007 12:38 PM
> > To: nwu-sports@tssi.com
> > Subject: [NU Sports] Our coaching shortfalls
> >
> >
> > _________________________________________
> >
> https://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=3537793710081435156&postID=77
> 47887
> > 502271697221
> >
> >
> > Some interesting discussion on Lake the Posts.
> >
> > I am of two minds re: our coaching situation:
> >
> > Our offensive and defensive game plans were awful as has been talked
> about.
> >
> > OTOH, the reason we won is that we did not beat ourselves as we so 
> > often do.  Minimal penalties and we all can agree on the importance 
> > of special teams.  We miss those FG's, have a few bad punts and we lose
easily.
> >
> >
> >
> > That said, a win is a win and the particulars will be long forgotten 
> > on this one.  I am also intrigued by cjb's newfound mobility.  The 
> > spread offense is totally hampered if the QB cannot run.  Seems like 
> > we should throw deep on the first play and run the option on the 
> > second play every game.....
> >
> >
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From DPENDERG at aol.com  Thu Sep 13 14:07:11 2007
From: DPENDERG at aol.com (DPENDERG@aol.com)
Date: Thu Sep 13 14:06:01 2007
Subject: [NU Sports] Some Duke thoughts
Message-ID: <c3f.1c572683.341ae45f@aol.com>

 
Yes, we should beat Duke easily (and at last report were 16 point  
favorites), but I'm still uneasy.  The Blue Devils would just love to end  their streak 
in Evanston and will arrive highly motivated and revved up to  play.
The Wildcats?  Will they be looking ahead to Columbus?  Will they  come out 
flat and distracted as heavy favorites sometimes can be?  Will  Colby's "Swiss 
cheese" defense give confidence and yards to Duke's offense and  the game 
suddenly becomes a shoot-out?   
 
In some ways, frankly, this game will be more of a test for Fitz and staff  
to get the team ready than the two Big Ten games to follow.  If they are  not 
ready, this could be one of the worst Cat embarrassments ever. I'm not  
pessimistic but just want to point out that NU will not win simply showing  up.  
That's obvious, but we were 10-point favorites against Nevada and  barely won that 
game.
 
 
 
 
 
In a message dated 9/13/2007 10:35:34 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time,  
CHerron604@aol.com writes:

- Duke  hasn't won in 2 years (beat VMI 40-14 September 17, 2005 - 21 game   
losing streak)

- Duke hasn't beaten a D-I team since November 13,  2004 (beat Clemson  16-13)

- Duke ran for 15 yards against  UConn

- Duke rushed for 84 yards against Virginia (99 in two games, so  a 50-yard  
per game average)

- Duke lost a 'close' one to  Virginia, 24-13, despite being outgained  
324-229

- Virginia  fumbled 3, lost 2

- 2 Virginia bad punt snaps led to 10 points for  Duke

- 1 Virginia fumbled kickoff led to Duke's other 3 points

-  Virginia also had a bad field goal snap, Duke blocked it, returned 61   
yards, but could not score

- Duke missed 3 field goals (26, 45 and  40 yards)

All this tells me that we MUST:

- limit Duke's ground  game to their average - 50 or so

- limit Duke's offense to its average  or less (they've been averaging 199  
yards/game on offense)

-  perform well on special teams, no bad snaps, no turnovers (this I have   
high confidence in)

Duke has been giving up 400+ yards/game, we've  been averaging 424  
yards/game 
on offense

I am still concerned  that Nevada had 185 yards against Nebraska, and 541  
yards against  us

Our O-line and D-line need to show some dominance in this game -  especially  
sacks and quarterback pressure

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From mlinhardt at netzero.net  Fri Sep 14 06:12:20 2007
From: mlinhardt at netzero.net (mlinhardt@netzero.net)
Date: Fri Sep 14 06:09:49 2007
Subject: [NU Sports] Re:  Bad Coaching Decisions
Message-ID: <20070914.061220.15189.0@webmail19.dca.untd.com>

Zak and Baz BOTH had happy feet early in their careers as a starter (1st and early parts of their 2nd seasons as starters).  Neither was particularly stellar at letting the play develop/rolling away from pressure and still making the play through the air early in their careers.  If the idea is to work with CJ early in his 2nd season as a starter to NOT run when he's in trouble by calling designed short drop pass plays early in the game and then checking down to receiving options 3/4 to open up the run later in the game, then you have taught him how to stand in there and take the shot if he has to while also making the play AND not lock in on a particular receiver.  He will learn it earlier in his career than his Senior year which is when both Kustok and Basanez seemed to catch on to that aspect of the game.  I am not knocking either of CJ's predecessors, I am only stating what I consider to be an "obvious" fact (at least IMO) about their happy feet in their early careers.  

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From rstetson at capps-assoc.com  Fri Sep 14 07:07:11 2007
From: rstetson at capps-assoc.com (Roy Lamberton)
Date: Fri Sep 14 06:55:02 2007
Subject: [NU Sports] Re:  Bad Coaching Decisions
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I remember guys on the chat literally screaming from their keyboards about both
Baz and Kustok's tendency to take off running when it appeared the play had been
blown up, but hadn't.

Its hard not to take off running when it appears your primary [and secondary]
rcvrs are covered - The QB has to learn to look off beyond #1 and #2 - there are
few under classmen who do that well.

rsl

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> Subject: [NU Sports] Re: Bad Coaching Decisions
> 
> Zak and Baz BOTH had happy feet early in their careers as a starter (1st
> and early parts of their 2nd seasons as starters).  Neither was
> particularly stellar at letting the play develop/rolling away from pressure
> and still making the play through the air early in their careers.  If the
> idea is to work with CJ early in his 2nd season as a starter to NOT run
> when he's in trouble by calling designed short drop pass plays early in the
> game and then checking down to receiving options 3/4 to open up the run
> later in the game, then you have taught him how to stand in there and take
> the shot if he has to while also making the play AND not lock in on a
> particular receiver.  He will learn it earlier in his career than his
> Senior year which is when both Kustok and Basanez seemed to catch on to
> that aspect of the game.  I am not knocking either of CJ's predecessors, I
> am only stating what I consider to be an "obvious" fact (at least IMO)
> about their happy feet in their early careers.
> 
> Maureen Linhardt
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From WildElk2 at aol.com  Fri Sep 14 17:43:02 2007
From: WildElk2 at aol.com (WildElk2@aol.com)
Date: Fri Sep 14 17:41:39 2007
Subject: [NU Sports] Some Duke thoughts
Message-ID: <bd1.18d75dd1.341c6876@aol.com>

Good stuff on being nervous about Duke. This is a  classic "doughnut" game 
where there was an incentive to play well against  Nevada, as well as next 
week's affair. 
   If we need any more proof, let me take you for a rather  unpleasant trip 
down Memory Lane.  It was 1998, and we just polished off  UNLV 41-7 to get a 
false sense of security.  As exciting as last week's win  was, let's not kid 
ourselves. We were "C" or "D" in many areas, such as our  defensive line which 
needed blitz help all game long.
   Duke waxed us 44-10. I remember listening to the internet feed  in 
absolute shock and horror.  Coach Fred Goldsmith explained that his team  benefited 
from an abundance of upper-classmen who"knew football".   fast-forward to 2007: 
Duke comes into town downtrodden, but returns the entire  offense in-tact.
   My head says this will be one of those brain-numbing  non-conference 
losses that we'll ramble on all off-season as "the one that got  away."
   However, CJ and the entire team must have been ecstatic that  they pulled 
one out of the fire, and our special teams have been stellar.   Despite last 
week's heroics,  I think Duke knows that if they don't get it  done tomorrow, 
0-12 is a distinct possibility.  I see Duke pulling this one  out. They played 
well vs. UVA. and lead at half vs. UConn. Great googla-mooglee;  Duke 31 NU 
27. Ouch, I hope I'm wrong.
 
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From WildElk2 at aol.com  Fri Sep 14 17:46:15 2007
From: WildElk2 at aol.com (WildElk2@aol.com)
Date: Fri Sep 14 17:44:44 2007
Subject: [NU Sports] Truog's Rule
Message-ID: <ca0.1bdcf9d9.341c6937@aol.com>

Please also apply Truog's rule of scrubby play vs. poor  non-conference 
teams. It happens every year that we stink and get beaten by  someone crappy. Damn 
you, Steve!
 
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From prplehaze at insightbb.com  Fri Sep 14 19:58:15 2007
From: prplehaze at insightbb.com (Mark Ament)
Date: Fri Sep 14 19:55:32 2007
Subject: [NU Sports] Truog's Rule
In-Reply-To: <ca0.1bdcf9d9.341c6937@aol.com>
Message-ID: <000f01c7f733$81e91f40$6900a8c0@PC244461808863>

As probably one of the only people on this list (in the country?) who spend
any time following Duke football - it's another one of my alma maters - I
share the concerns of many about the classic trap game.  However, Duke is
without question the worse BCS team in the country, a school that Syracuse
should immediately get on its schedule for next year.  The Cats will have to
be worse than flat to blow this game.  It's not impossible, just not likely.

 

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Please also apply Truog's rule of scrubby play vs. poor  non-conference 

teams. It happens every year that we stink and get beaten by  someone
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From johnadeg at comcast.net  Fri Sep 14 20:04:05 2007
From: johnadeg at comcast.net (johnadeg@comcast.net)
Date: Fri Sep 14 19:59:26 2007
Subject: [NU Sports] Some Duke thoughts
Message-ID: <091520070104.1599.46EB2F850004873A0000063F2216525856090A0B0E02080106@comcast.net>

The last time that Duke played NU in Evanston, they were a poor team but beat us pretty badly as I recall..  Let's hope that we don't repeat the past.

John DeGroat -------------- Original message ----------------------
From: DPENDERG@aol.com
>  
> Yes, we should beat Duke easily (and at last report were 16 point  
> favorites), but I'm still uneasy.  The Blue Devils would just love to end  their 
> streak 
> in Evanston and will arrive highly motivated and revved up to  play.
> The Wildcats?  Will they be looking ahead to Columbus?  Will they  come out 
> flat and distracted as heavy favorites sometimes can be?  Will  Colby's "Swiss 
> cheese" defense give confidence and yards to Duke's offense and  the game 
> suddenly becomes a shoot-out?   
>  
> In some ways, frankly, this game will be more of a test for Fitz and staff  
> to get the team ready than the two Big Ten games to follow.  If they are  not 
> ready, this could be one of the worst Cat embarrassments ever. I'm not  
> pessimistic but just want to point out that NU will not win simply showing  up.  
> That's obvious, but we were 10-point favorites against Nevada and  barely won 
> that 
> game.
>  
>  
>  
>  
>  
> In a message dated 9/13/2007 10:35:34 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time,  
> CHerron604@aol.com writes:
> 
> - Duke  hasn't won in 2 years (beat VMI 40-14 September 17, 2005 - 21 game   
> losing streak)
> 
> - Duke hasn't beaten a D-I team since November 13,  2004 (beat Clemson  16-13)
> 
> - Duke ran for 15 yards against  UConn
> 
> - Duke rushed for 84 yards against Virginia (99 in two games, so  a 50-yard  
> per game average)
> 
> - Duke lost a 'close' one to  Virginia, 24-13, despite being outgained  
> 324-229
> 
> - Virginia  fumbled 3, lost 2
> 
> - 2 Virginia bad punt snaps led to 10 points for  Duke
> 
> - 1 Virginia fumbled kickoff led to Duke's other 3 points
> 
> -  Virginia also had a bad field goal snap, Duke blocked it, returned 61   
> yards, but could not score
> 
> - Duke missed 3 field goals (26, 45 and  40 yards)
> 
> All this tells me that we MUST:
> 
> - limit Duke's ground  game to their average - 50 or so
> 
> - limit Duke's offense to its average  or less (they've been averaging 199  
> yards/game on offense)
> 
> -  perform well on special teams, no bad snaps, no turnovers (this I have   
> high confidence in)
> 
> Duke has been giving up 400+ yards/game, we've  been averaging 424  
> yards/game 
> on offense
> 
> I am still concerned  that Nevada had 185 yards against Nebraska, and 541  
> yards against  us
> 
> Our O-line and D-line need to show some dominance in this game -  especially  
> sacks and quarterback pressure
> 
> Chuck  Herron   Tech  '85
> 
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From thehaze at earthlink.net  Fri Sep 14 20:23:43 2007
From: thehaze at earthlink.net (Jim Bendat)
Date: Fri Sep 14 20:18:27 2007
Subject: [NU Sports] Some Duke thoughts
In-Reply-To: <bd1.18d75dd1.341c6876@aol.com>
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Yikes -- you'd better be wrong! -- Expect victory! 

WildElk2@aol.com wrote:
> I see Duke pulling this one  out. They played 
> well vs. UVA. and lead at half vs. UConn. Great googla-mooglee;  Duke 31 NU 
> 27. Ouch, I hope I'm wrong.

From rstetson at capps-assoc.com  Sat Sep 15 08:11:28 2007
From: rstetson at capps-assoc.com (Roy Lamberton)
Date: Sat Sep 15 08:08:15 2007
Subject: [NU Sports] Some Duke thoughts
In-Reply-To: <bd1.18d75dd1.341c6876@aol.com>
References: <bd1.18d75dd1.341c6876@aol.com>
Message-ID: <001401c7f799$ed2a2e50$c77e8af0$@com>

As I noted in my pregame intel report on Scout:

Duke has a very experienced O-Line
Three good runners who have been kept in check because of O-Line play
At QB who can't seem to find receivers
Some very good Defensive Line players
At least one linebacker who is decent
And a d-back group that seems to be unable to cover people

I don't think we're going run up the gut on these guys, but CJ should have a
ball passing.

I also think that if our Defense plays like they did the last 2 quarters, this
should be an easy win.

HOWEVER, if anyone is looking ahead, we're in deep whatever.

Go Cats

rsl

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> From: nwu-sports-bounces@tssi.com [mailto:nwu-sports-bounces@tssi.com] On
> Behalf Of WildElk2@aol.com
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> To: DPENDERG@aol.com; nwu-sports@tssi.com
> Subject: Re: [NU Sports] Some Duke thoughts
> 
> Good stuff on being nervous about Duke. This is a  classic "doughnut" game
> where there was an incentive to play well against  Nevada, as well as next
> week's affair.
>    If we need any more proof, let me take you for a rather  unpleasant trip
> down Memory Lane.  It was 1998, and we just polished off  UNLV 41-7 to get
> a
> false sense of security.  As exciting as last week's win  was, let's not
> kid
> ourselves. We were "C" or "D" in many areas, such as our  defensive line
> which
> needed blitz help all game long.
>    Duke waxed us 44-10. I remember listening to the internet feed  in
> absolute shock and horror.  Coach Fred Goldsmith explained that his team
> benefited
> from an abundance of upper-classmen who"knew football".   fast-forward to
> 2007:
> Duke comes into town downtrodden, but returns the entire  offense in-tact.
>    My head says this will be one of those brain-numbing  non-conference
> losses that we'll ramble on all off-season as "the one that got  away."
>    However, CJ and the entire team must have been ecstatic that  they
> pulled
> one out of the fire, and our special teams have been stellar.   Despite
> last
> week's heroics,  I think Duke knows that if they don't get it  done
> tomorrow,
> 0-12 is a distinct possibility.  I see Duke pulling this one  out. They
> played
> well vs. UVA. and lead at half vs. UConn. Great googla-mooglee;  Duke 31 NU
> 27. Ouch, I hope I'm wrong.
> 
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From bwdolphin146 at yahoo.com  Sat Sep 15 12:55:09 2007
From: bwdolphin146 at yahoo.com (Brad Wilson)
Date: Sat Sep 15 12:49:51 2007
Subject: [NU Sports] duke
Message-ID: <858081.27254.qm@web51301.mail.re2.yahoo.com>

John is incorrect; last game in Evanston was 2002 and
NU won 26-21. NU has 5 in a row vs. the Dookies.

Duke creamed NU in Evanston in 1998, 44-10, the last
Blue Devil win in the series.

If you look at the Dook-UVa game it was UVa's awful
special teams that gave Duke a chance; the Blue Devils
did not do much on their own. If NU limits its
mistakes tonight, they should be OK.

And given what's going on in Madison -- another
warning not to take weaker teams lightly -- NU better
limit its mistakes.

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From sjtruog at yahoo.com  Sat Sep 15 20:31:53 2007
From: sjtruog at yahoo.com (SjT (Stephen J. Truog))
Date: Sat Sep 15 20:26:35 2007
Subject: [NU Sports] First half thoughts ...
Message-ID: <855515.64925.qm@web52912.mail.re2.yahoo.com>

We're letting the Dookies hang in and it's frustrating
because we look like we're dominating physically and
should be up big. Ugh. Some thoughts ...

* Love the purple helmets under the lights - black
pants look better than the white ones as well.

* I HATE ACC REFS. We came out aggressive on D and got
pressure and a boatload of quick flags early took that
away.

* I like rollouts for CJ, but why do we always seem to
roll him out to the wrong side? His first INT and a
later miss at the goal line were rolled out opposite
of his throwing arm, so he has to turn all the way
around to get the throw off. NU seems to have done
this with QBs for years and it has yet to make sense.

* I HATE ACC REFS. I'm going to super glue the bloody
whistle to their lips! Let the kids play!

* Nice response drive by CJ. I really like Roberson
and Conteh as backups (and perhaps to use with
Tyrell?) and our core of wideouts is the best it's
been in years.

* Our pass D has backed off the aggressiveness and is
getting shredded - that 4th down conversion hurt.

* I HATE ACC REFS. Some pretty poor spots both ways so
far - are they using the metric system in that league?

* Hang on to the goshdarn ball - the only way Duke
wins here is if we keep giving it to them.

* I HATE ACC REFS. Bogus call on offensive
interference ruined what looked like our second
scoring drive.

* We need to get off the field on 3rd down more.

* Dunno about the 4th down call - we had been running
fairly well.

Pathetic officiating aside, we're doing all we can to
give this game away right now. Dumb mistakes,
turnovers and porous D on third down. We look like
we're in clear control of the trenches tonight aside
for a few pass protection mixups, but have been
hindered by the zebras and our own mistakes. If we
keep letting them hang around we're going to give them
the game.

Better wake up fast!

GO CATS!!!
-SjT

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From jmccull at insight.rr.com  Sat Sep 15 20:32:59 2007
From: jmccull at insight.rr.com (J.R. McCullough)
Date: Sat Sep 15 20:28:03 2007
Subject: [NU Sports] Our worst nightmare
Message-ID: <003b01c7f801$84828330$6501a8c0@JROFFICEHP>

We're getting homered by the refs, can't stop their QB, turning the ball over, and committing stupid penalties. We better get this fixed NOW!
From neonrye at aol.com  Sat Sep 15 20:31:14 2007
From: neonrye at aol.com (neonrye@aol.com)
Date: Sat Sep 15 20:29:39 2007
Subject: [NU Sports] Ugh
Message-ID: <8C9C61867BE985B-440-4B23@WEBMAIL-MA08.sysops.aol.com>

How could Fitz take the 3 pts from FG off the board?? I can't believe this.? I never imagined we could lose to the Blue Devils.? This could put a damper on entire season.? 

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From MHRJGScott at aol.com  Sat Sep 15 20:38:55 2007
From: MHRJGScott at aol.com (MHRJGScott@aol.com)
Date: Sat Sep 15 20:37:20 2007
Subject: [NU Sports] First half thoughts ...
Message-ID: <c3f.1c927372.341de32f@aol.com>

Let's see how Fitz adjusts, it is his team now.



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From tbng at comcast.net  Sat Sep 15 20:44:41 2007
From: tbng at comcast.net (Dennis W. Brandt)
Date: Sat Sep 15 20:39:59 2007
Subject: [NU Sports] First half thoughts ...
References: <855515.64925.qm@web52912.mail.re2.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <001701c7f803$263c8800$c402a8c0@DennisMachine>

<We look like we're in clear control of the trenches tonight

You're watching a different game than I am.  There has been some TFL, but 
Duke is giving good pass protection and opening holes in our slow, weak DL. 
Watch a replay of the Penn State game.  Their DLs and LBs hit a ball 
carrier, and SMACK! they go down.  I rated the DL a C a few weeks back.  I'm 
struggling not to give them an F.  We may come back, but this is sad to 
watch.  We will be hammered the next two weeks. 


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From thehaze at earthlink.net  Sat Sep 15 20:47:21 2007
From: thehaze at earthlink.net (Jim Bendat)
Date: Sat Sep 15 20:42:01 2007
Subject: [NU Sports] First half thoughts ...
In-Reply-To: <855515.64925.qm@web52912.mail.re2.yahoo.com>
References: <855515.64925.qm@web52912.mail.re2.yahoo.com>
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Have to disagree about the black pants -- we lose to Ohio State, 54-10 
in them -- and now this.  Burn the black pants.

SjT (Stephen J. Truog) wrote:
> * Love the purple helmets under the lights - black
> pants look better than the white ones as well.
>
>   

From sjtruog at yahoo.com  Sat Sep 15 21:26:53 2007
From: sjtruog at yahoo.com (SjT (Stephen J. Truog))
Date: Sat Sep 15 21:21:32 2007
Subject: [NU Sports] 4th down ...
Message-ID: <134832.75785.qm@web52910.mail.re2.yahoo.com>

... they call a run and make it.

What the heck has happened to our play calling and
offensive rhythm? Did every run play except that delay
counter get ripped out of the playbook? An option with
CJ would have been nice on one of those two 4th downs.

We've had chances to get back in despite the atrocious
3rd down defense and we keep blowing them. Aside from
these moronic ACC refs blowing a pass interference
call in our favor for once (I guess we were due to
benefit from their ineptitude for once), we haven't
gotten anything going and our line play on both sides
in the 3rd quarter was a big step back from the first
half.

We need a heck of a fourth quarter.

GO CATS!!!
-SjT

PS - I guess the review officials must be an ACC crew
as well because they replayed it and said no first
down for the Dookies. I guess we'll take it (and
again, we're due after the first half flagfest on us),
but again, it looks like a horrible call. They had the first.

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From sjtruog at yahoo.com  Sat Sep 15 21:34:22 2007
From: sjtruog at yahoo.com (SjT (Stephen J. Truog))
Date: Sat Sep 15 21:29:01 2007
Subject: [NU Sports] I dunno how ...
Message-ID: <704028.38387.qm@web52907.mail.re2.yahoo.com>

... but we're still very much in this game after 3
quarters. In fact, statistically, we're more than just
in it. PUNCH THE FRIGGIN' BALL OVER THE LINE HERE to
start the fourth and we're at 20-14. No need to panic
or abandon the run - just get off the field on 3rd
down!

GO CATS!!!
-SjT

PS - I want a #10 jersey! Peterman seemed to be the
only Cat playing on offense for a long time in the
quarter with those big 3rd down catches ... not to
mention a nifty block on the reverse that SHOULD have
been a touchdown, but (you guessed it) was called back
by a flag. UGH!

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From sjtruog at yahoo.com  Sat Sep 15 21:58:10 2007
From: sjtruog at yahoo.com (SjT (Stephen J. Truog))
Date: Sat Sep 15 21:52:49 2007
Subject: [NU Sports] So we stop Duke ...
Message-ID: <752877.72074.qm@web52904.mail.re2.yahoo.com>

... and go 3 and out? Our play calling leaves a lot to
be desired today. It's not just rhythm, it's a 2 yard
route on 3rd and 5.

And we get another stop by the D only to have Duke get
an astroturf bounce on the punt.

And as I send this, a first down is ... wiped out by
another flag. C'mon Cats!!!

GO CATS!!!
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From nolan at romaine.tssi.com  Sat Sep 15 22:24:41 2007
From: nolan at romaine.tssi.com (Mike Nolan)
Date: Sat Sep 15 22:24:45 2007
Subject: [NU Sports] A football maxim proves to be true--again
Message-ID: <200709160324.l8G3OfoD016491@romaine.tssi.com>

Never take points off the scoreboard.  Had NU taken the field goal, they
could have tied the game and possibly have been going for the win. 

Hopefully Pat Fitzgerald learned a painfull lesson tonight.
--
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From tbng at comcast.net  Sat Sep 15 22:31:05 2007
From: tbng at comcast.net (Dennis W. Brandt)
Date: Sat Sep 15 22:26:24 2007
Subject: [NU Sports] Groan!
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Why the hell can't we beat weak teams in the pre-season?  What a 
disappointment.  We'll get killed the next two weeks.  Every aspect of the 
team stunk tonight except the kicking game. 


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From Alan.Abrahamson at nbcsports.com  Sat Sep 15 22:31:56 2007
From: Alan.Abrahamson at nbcsports.com (Abrahamson, Alan (NBC Universal))
Date: Sat Sep 15 22:28:39 2007
Subject: [NU Sports] Yech
Message-ID: <33C4F11DF8639640A51C79CB484166FF031D20F8@RKFMLVEM02.e2k.ad.ge.com>

 I just want to puke. 
 And now the Buckeyes. Ugh. 

From sjtruog at yahoo.com  Sat Sep 15 22:34:49 2007
From: sjtruog at yahoo.com (SjT (Stephen J. Truog))
Date: Sat Sep 15 22:29:29 2007
Subject: [NU Sports] Ugh ...
Message-ID: <929704.96412.qm@web52908.mail.re2.yahoo.com>

Crappy officiating aside, we deserved to lose this
one.

Yeah, it looked like a pass interference or two in the
end zone there. But we really never should have had it
be that close.

Just a lousy game all around - coaching, execution,
blocking, mentally, etc. CJ did stick in there and
show some guts taking hits, but he just wasn't on his
game.

Really disappointing to see us blow this one. Gotta
win the gottawins to get to a bowl game and this puts
us in a hole.

It's always tough heading into Columbus, but we better
get our focus going from the first snap or we'll be in
trouble.

This one hurts. We really blew a good chance tonight.

GO CATS!!!
-SjT

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From bwdolphin146 at yahoo.com  Sat Sep 15 22:45:01 2007
From: bwdolphin146 at yahoo.com (Brad Wilson)
Date: Sat Sep 15 22:39:44 2007
Subject: [NU Sports] Alan said it best;
Message-ID: <983398.92726.qm@web51309.mail.re2.yahoo.com>

I'm on line for the puke station.

and now ... now what?

Why does it take a half for the defense to wake up?
Why can't we cover deep routes on obvious passing
downs?

500-plus yards and 14 points? Are you kidding? As
usual, NU can't score inside the 20. Perhaps plays
need to be inserted into the playbook to do so? 

Why take the FG off the board? Keep that one, kick
another instead of going for it once and the final
drive ends in a game-winning FG, probably. What is the
thought there?

Why not run the ball more in the first half? Does
Sutton make that much of a difference?

I can't believe all the flags were because of bad
officiating. What's with all the penalties?

Closing thought: at least NU's national record is
safe. 

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From christopher_bailey at yahoo.com  Sat Sep 15 22:46:34 2007
From: christopher_bailey at yahoo.com (Christopher Bailey)
Date: Sat Sep 15 22:41:14 2007
Subject: [NU Sports] offensive play calling
Message-ID: <829223.12030.qm@web60315.mail.yahoo.com>

Is anyone else concerned at the ratio of rushes to passes?

v. Northeastern    31 pass, 49 run (3.3 average)
v. Nevada            45 pass, 26 run (7.8 average)
v. Duke               51 pass, 34 run (4.1 average)

I'm not going to complain about the defensive line, the secondary or the officials (though I could), for now I'm going to stick to one thing that I would have to think would help in most other areas of the game plan: RUN MORE.  

Control the ball.
Balance the attack.
Rest the defense.

RUN!
.
Oy.

OK, shake it off, get ready for next week.

LETS GO 'CATS!
Christopher Bailey
christopher_bailey@yahoo.com




From johnl at mac.com  Sat Sep 15 22:49:40 2007
From: johnl at mac.com (John Labbe)
Date: Sat Sep 15 22:44:20 2007
Subject: [NU Sports] Ugh
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Just back from the game:  At the time, I thought Fitz made the right  
call to go for the first down, but he probably should have known not to  
take the 3 points off the board.  We would have been able to tie or win  
at the end if we had those three points.

Having said that, the offense really should have been able to score two  
touchdowns in the second half, so it's hard to hang too much on this  
decision.




On Sep 15, 2007, at 8:31 PM, neonrye@aol.com wrote:

> How could Fitz take the 3 pts from FG off the board?? I can't believe  
> this.? I never imagined we could lose to the Blue Devils.? This could  
> put a damper on entire season.?
>
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From sjtruog at yahoo.com  Sun Sep 16 00:00:12 2007
From: sjtruog at yahoo.com (SjT (Stephen J. Truog))
Date: Sat Sep 15 23:54:52 2007
Subject: [NU Sports] offensive play calling
In-Reply-To: <829223.12030.qm@web60315.mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <392728.89970.qm@web52907.mail.re2.yahoo.com>

> Is anyone else concerned at the ratio of rushes to
> passes?

Definitely. Nice stats - I know we like to say that we
"take what the defense gives us" - but I think some
defenses are lulling us into abandoning the run and
they still cover the pass.

And it's not just the lack of running - but lack of
imagination in the runs. We ran that delayed counter
most of the time - doesn't Roberson know another run?
We're not an option team, but against Northeastern we
ran it once and it worked well. Surely one of the 4th
downs called for it?

> I'm not going to complain about the defensive line,
> the secondary or the officials (though I could), for

Actually, the D line was one of the few bright spots
today ... mostly thanks to Lloyd Carr stepping in as
Duke's offensive play caller in the second half. Yeesh
did they try not to lose!

And it can't be said enough that this ACC crew was
awful. And it wasn't just against us - we benefitted
from two pretty lousy calls in the second half. But
their quick flags took us out of our game at the start
and their lack of flags at the end for interference
was puzzling - NOW they swallow it?

We dominated the second half statistically - and held
our own in the first save the turnovers. It was a loss
we can spread around, but our penalties, lack of red
zone production and play calling really stick out.

I know you don't take points off the board - but I
don't blame Fitz too much for going for it - we needed
a spark (the play call could have been better, though)
- and honestly, it shouldn't have made a difference.
The D (and replay) held Duke scoreless in the second
half. All we had to do was score two touchdowns.

Bottom line is we were flat all around and didn't
deserve the victory. It was still there for the taking
somehow, but we couldn't even take the gift!

UGH!
GO CATS!!!
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From pminerva at sbcglobal.net  Sat Sep 15 22:45:48 2007
From: pminerva at sbcglobal.net (Paul Minerva)
Date: Sun Sep 16 09:43:13 2007
Subject: [NU Sports] A football maxim proves to be true--again
In-Reply-To: <200709160324.l8G3OfoD016491@romaine.tssi.com>
Message-ID: <96042.95453.qm@web82508.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

Mike is right.  I admire aggressivness but with 20 points on the board the field goal was the proper choice.  I also have noticed that QB draws and the option have not been emphasized much this year.  
   
  I have a theory that w/o the QB running our offense is not as effective.  Isn't one of the features of the spread that the QB is the second back?  Didn't we have a really big gain off an option play last week?  
   
  I wonder if McGee is favoring the passing game because that is what he is familiar with.
   
  

Mike Nolan <nolan@romaine.tssi.com> wrote:
  Never take points off the scoreboard. Had NU taken the field goal, they
could have tied the game and possibly have been going for the win. 

Hopefully Pat Fitzgerald learned a painfull lesson tonight.
--
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From nolan at romaine.tssi.com  Sun Sep 16 10:02:15 2007
From: nolan at romaine.tssi.com (Mike Nolan)
Date: Sun Sep 16 10:02:19 2007
Subject: [NU Sports] A football maxim proves to be true--again (fwd)
Message-ID: <200709161502.l8GF2F8Z028675@romaine.tssi.com>

>   I have a theory that w/o the QB running our offense is not as effective.  Isn't one of the features of the spread that the QB is the second back?  Didn't we have a really big gain off an option play last week?  

In the post-game press conference, one of the Michigan players said that
there were two words that expressed why they felt confident heading into 
the conference season;  No Spread Offenses.
--
Mike Nolan

From neonrye at aol.com  Sun Sep 16 10:27:55 2007
From: neonrye at aol.com (neonrye@aol.com)
Date: Sun Sep 16 10:23:29 2007
Subject: [NU Sports] Ugh
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You should only give back FG and points if penalty gives you first down.  That was not the case here.

Paul Levinson
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Subject: Re: [NU Sports] Ugh


Just back from the game:  At the time, I thought Fitz made the right  
call to go for the first down, but he probably should have known not to  
take the 3 points off the board.  We would have been able to tie or win  
at the end if we had those three points.

Having said that, the offense really should have been able to score two  
touchdowns in the second half, so it's hard to hang too much on this  
decision.




On Sep 15, 2007, at 8:31 PM, neonrye@aol.com wrote:

> How could Fitz take the 3 pts from FG off the board?? I can't believe  
> this.? I never imagined we could lose to the Blue Devils.? This could  
> put a damper on entire season.?
>
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From michael.vance at att.net  Sun Sep 16 10:59:09 2007
From: michael.vance at att.net (Michael Vance)
Date: Sun Sep 16 10:54:21 2007
Subject: [NU Sports] Ugh
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Especially since the real yards-to-go was closer to three than the 
official two.  If it had been fourth and a real two or a short two, then 
maybe.  But it was a very long two, probably even a short three.  You 
have to admire aggressiveness, but sometimes you just have to take what 
you can get.

-Michael

neonrye@aol.com wrote:
> You should only give back FG and points if penalty gives you first down.  That was not the case here.
>
> Paul Levinson
> Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry
>
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> From: John Labbe <johnl@mac.com>
>
> Date: Sat, 15 Sep 2007 22:49:40 
> To:"'nwu-sports@romaine.tssi.com'" <nwu-sports@romaine.tssi.com>
> Subject: Re: [NU Sports] Ugh
>
>
> Just back from the game:  At the time, I thought Fitz made the right  
> call to go for the first down, but he probably should have known not to  
> take the 3 points off the board.  We would have been able to tie or win  
> at the end if we had those three points.
>
> Having said that, the offense really should have been able to score two  
> touchdowns in the second half, so it's hard to hang too much on this  
> decision.
>
>
>
>
> On Sep 15, 2007, at 8:31 PM, neonrye@aol.com wrote:
>
>   
>> How could Fitz take the 3 pts from FG off the board?? I can't believe  
>> this.? I never imagined we could lose to the Blue Devils.? This could  
>> put a damper on entire season.?
>>
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From johnl at mac.com  Sun Sep 16 11:13:21 2007
From: johnl at mac.com (John Labbe)
Date: Sun Sep 16 11:08:00 2007
Subject: [NU Sports] Penalties
Message-ID: <aca7bfd0440e173eb754fd0206e375c7@mac.com>

Naturally I booed the refs a lot last night for all the penalties 
called against us.  But from the stands, it's hard to really judge the 
calls.  For those watching from home, did we really deserve 125 yards 
in penalties or were there a lot of bad calls?  Given that we were the 
least penalized team in the Big Ten last year, and in the first two 
games of this season we were averaging 4 penalties for 40 yards, I 
thought 125 yards of penalties was a lot.  I was especially annoyed by 
a couple of the refs last night who would throw in a flag after the 
play was over and call holding or a block in the back.  I mean, what 
took so long to decide to throw the flag?  (I thought there were also a 
couple of bad penalty calls that went in our favor, but many more calls 
and no calls went against us.)

From mlinhardt at netzero.net  Sun Sep 16 11:20:28 2007
From: mlinhardt at netzero.net (mlinhardt@netzero.net)
Date: Sun Sep 16 11:17:04 2007
Subject: [NU Sports] Finish!
Message-ID: <20070916.112028.26766.0@webmail05.dca.untd.com>

I think after the Michigan State game last year the emphasis was on Finishing games.

The problem in the Duke game is we did not finish drives either on the offense or defensive sides.  We did not 3-and-out them until the very end and we seemed to fail on 4th down conversions.

Duke was a trap game and we fell into it.

The officiating from the stands left a lot to be desired, but the game felt just like Nevada and this time we got too close to the fire and actually did get burned.

Positives:
I thought Robes played really well.  
I thought the DL got pressure, but again very few sacks.
I thought CJ stood in there and took some hits to make the throw.

Negatives:
When Conteh is in we are clearly passing and I think they knew that in 4 and 2.
Corner play was not good.
Our fieldgoal kicking is spot on.  Why, why, why, why, why(The 5 whys)?  1 made field goal off the board and an attempt at 4th and 12 with 2+ minutes to go when we could have pulled it within a field goal.

We looked exactly like the team that played Nevada.  Shouldn't we fix/work on at least some of our mistakes/weaknesses in practice?
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From johnadeg at comcast.net  Sun Sep 16 11:58:46 2007
From: johnadeg at comcast.net (johnadeg@comcast.net)
Date: Sun Sep 16 11:53:59 2007
Subject: [NU Sports] I dunno how ...
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I get the Big Ten Network and thus, have seen a lot of games this year.  Based upon the Duke fiasco, forget about any bowl game and I think that we will be lucky to win two more games.  Indiana looks good, Illinois is always a toss up because of the tradition.  So who are we going to beat?  Minnesota maybe and Central Michigan.  

John DeGroat
 -------------- Original message ----------------------
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> ... but we're still very much in this game after 3
> quarters. In fact, statistically, we're more than just
> in it. PUNCH THE FRIGGIN' BALL OVER THE LINE HERE to
> start the fourth and we're at 20-14. No need to panic
> or abandon the run - just get off the field on 3rd
> down!
> 
> GO CATS!!!
> -SjT
> 
> PS - I want a #10 jersey! Peterman seemed to be the
> only Cat playing on offense for a long time in the
> quarter with those big 3rd down catches ... not to
> mention a nifty block on the reverse that SHOULD have
> been a touchdown, but (you guessed it) was called back
> by a flag. UGH!
> 
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From mlinhardt at netzero.net  Sun Sep 16 12:58:49 2007
From: mlinhardt at netzero.net (mlinhardt@netzero.net)
Date: Sun Sep 16 12:55:23 2007
Subject: [NU Sports] I dunno how ...
Message-ID: <20070916.125849.17581.0@webmail19.dca.untd.com>

I know we can't beat Central Michigan as they aren't on our schedule.  We are playing the Gennyk led Eastern Michigan Eagles on Friday, October 19th.

My seat neighbor(class of 58) talks negatively like that when we are down a score or two, but I always ask him when the last time we went 3-0 non-conference and he jumps right into his Ara stories.  He is an Hamilton, Ohio guy so he knows everything about us vs. Ohio State.

We play to our level of competition and I think we have a shot of pulling out everything except for tOSU.  I thought tOSU was a possibility at the beginning of the season, but they have matured rapidly and won a tough road game.

Our next 2 games might be extremely frustrating possible blow-out losses, but once we get past that I think we will be okay, but not top-tier big ten.

-- johnadeg@comcast.net wrote:
I get the Big Ten Network and thus, have seen a lot of games this year.  Based upon the Duke fiasco, forget about any bowl game and I think that we will be lucky to win two more games.  Indiana looks good, Illinois is always a toss up because of the tradition.  So who are we going to beat?  Minnesota maybe and Central Michigan.  

John DeGroat
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> ... but we're still very much in this game after 3
> quarters. In fact, statistically, we're more than just
> in it. PUNCH THE FRIGGIN' BALL OVER THE LINE HERE to
> start the fourth and we're at 20-14. No need to panic
> or abandon the run - just get off the field on 3rd
> down!
> 
> GO CATS!!!
> -SjT
> 
> PS - I want a #10 jersey! Peterman seemed to be the
> only Cat playing on offense for a long time in the
> quarter with those big 3rd down catches ... not to
> mention a nifty block on the reverse that SHOULD have
> been a touchdown, but (you guessed it) was called back
> by a flag. UGH!
> 
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From sjtruog at yahoo.com  Sun Sep 16 13:51:52 2007
From: sjtruog at yahoo.com (SjT (Stephen J. Truog))
Date: Sun Sep 16 13:46:30 2007
Subject: [NU Sports] A football maxim proves to be true--again (fwd)
In-Reply-To: <200709161502.l8GF2F8Z028675@romaine.tssi.com>
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> In the post-game press conference, one of the
> Michigan players said that
> there were two words that expressed why they felt
> confident heading into 
> the conference season;  No Spread Offenses.

Maybe Jim Harbaugh was right about Michigan!:)

Not only do their math skills need some work, but
Indiana and Northwestern run versions of the spread -
and OSU did against them last year (who's to say they
won't again).

Plus you have a few mobile quarterbacks in league play
- notably Juice Williams - who could give them
trouble.

It could be a wild Big Ten race. I'm not too down
about NU overall (yesterday still stings), because we
do tend to play to our level of competition and for
all the disappointing NC losses we've had in the last
decade or so, we have more upset wins against Big Ten
teams we know and don't fear.

Sizing up the league heading into the season, I'd put
it like this ...

CONTENDERS: Penn State, Wisconsin, Ohio State, Purdue

I thought the Wisky @ PSU game would be for the second
BCS bid, but it may now be for the league title. No
clear favorite here and I could see a massive 7-1 tie
at the top, but the Nits have to have the edge because
of the schedule - they get all three of these teams in
Happy Valley. If they can get over their Michigan
mental block next week and stop turning it over, watch
out!

As for the rest, Purdue is up there because no team
west of Toledo seems to have a defense this year in
the Big Ten and the Boilers can put up points despite
their defense. Wisky's up there for their experience
and ability to wear opponents down with the offense.
As for OSU, don't count the Bucks out with an
improving O and the only other solid D in the league
outside of PSU. Plus, their schedule is nicely
backloaded to give them time to find some weapons,
which you know they have stockpiled in Columbus.

And yes, despite our woes, I think the Big Ten will
get two BCS bids. For starters, just about every
league will this year with ND out of it already and no
real non-BCS team stepping up (Hawaii's close win at
LaTech could damage them and Boise State and TCU
slipped up already). So that leaves four bids out
there for six leagues. The SEC will surely get two and
it's tough to see the ACC or Big East getting two.

SPOILER: Michigan

Tough to see Michigan winning the league - but it's
easy to see the Wolverines knocking off PSU, Wisconsin
and anybody else if they come to play on a Saturday.
They could have a role in the Rose Bowl race by who
they manage to knock off along the way.

BOWL BUBBLE: Michigan State, Iowa, Indiana, Illinois,
Northwestern

MSU and Indiana are in good shape with the 3-0 start
and a win in South Bend would really help Sparty's
case even if I'm not a believer yet. As for Indiana
and Illinois - next week's game will be huge. And Iowa
should still get in despite the ISU loss because they
skip Michigan and OSU. As for NU, it gets tougher
without the Duke win, but we still can do it by
beating EMU and Minnesota, along with splitting the
MSU, Iowa, Illinois and Indiana games. Homecoming vs.
Minny may make or break the season for us.

NEXT YEAR: Minnesota

With two non conference losses already and a defense
that looks porous even by Big Ten standards this year,
it's going to be long wait for hockey season to begin
up north. But the Gophers could definitely be a bowl
spoiler to the bubble teams above.

Last night would have really helped - but we gotta put
it behind us and get ready for a tough game in the
Shoe.

GO CATS!!!
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From Martinitis at aol.com  Sun Sep 16 14:02:34 2007
From: Martinitis at aol.com (Martinitis@aol.com)
Date: Sun Sep 16 14:01:45 2007
Subject: [NU Sports] Big 10 HD TV
Message-ID: <d13.10e74894.341ed7ca@aol.com>

Anyone know what happened to the HD broadcasts on the Big 10 Network?  They 
keep promoting them, including last nite's debacle, but I haven't seen one yet 
on DirecTV.  Are they on some alternate channel?
 
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From: rstetson at capps-assoc.com (Roy Lamberton)
Date: Sun Sep 16 15:56:47 2007
Subject: [NU Sports] Groan!
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IMHO, Duke was a better team on paper than many gave them credit.

Give them a good FG kicker and last night's game might have been their 2nd win,
instead of first.

Also - any time you have 5 returning O-Linemen [and your entire offense back]
they have to get better. They gave Lewis the time to throw and he used it well.
And weren't a lot of throws down the sidelines? No chance for INTs if you
overthrow.

We should have played better - I don't know why we keep trying to play
non-conference night games anyway - we didn't and now we have to bear the onus
heading into the conference season...

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> Why the hell can't we beat weak teams in the pre-season?  What a
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From rstetson at capps-assoc.com  Sun Sep 16 16:02:14 2007
From: rstetson at capps-assoc.com (Roy Lamberton)
Date: Sun Sep 16 15:58:51 2007
Subject: [NU Sports] Alan said it best;
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It seemed to me that the ACC crew was determined to make the Big 10 team play to
the "other than Florida" ACC rules. 

When Ted A starts railing on the calls by the refs, its got to be pretty
ticky-tacky. He got pretty hot over a couple of them.

rsl

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> Sent: Saturday, September 15, 2007 11:45 PM
> To: nwu-sports@tssi.com
> Subject: [NU Sports] Alan said it best;
> 
> I'm on line for the puke station.
> 
> and now ... now what?
> 
> Why does it take a half for the defense to wake up?
> Why can't we cover deep routes on obvious passing
> downs?
> 
> 500-plus yards and 14 points? Are you kidding? As
> usual, NU can't score inside the 20. Perhaps plays
> need to be inserted into the playbook to do so?
> 
> Why take the FG off the board? Keep that one, kick
> another instead of going for it once and the final
> drive ends in a game-winning FG, probably. What is the
> thought there?
> 
> Why not run the ball more in the first half? Does
> Sutton make that much of a difference?
> 
> I can't believe all the flags were because of bad
> officiating. What's with all the penalties?
> 
> Closing thought: at least NU's national record is
> safe.
> 
> bw
> 
> 
> 
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From rstetson at capps-assoc.com  Sun Sep 16 16:04:58 2007
From: rstetson at capps-assoc.com (Roy Lamberton)
Date: Sun Sep 16 16:01:35 2007
Subject: [NU Sports] Big 10 HD TV
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They're on one of the Comcast Channels, 

Oh no, they're not

rsl

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> Anyone know what happened to the HD broadcasts on the Big 10 Network?  They
> keep promoting them, including last nite's debacle, but I haven't seen one
> yet
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> 
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From DPENDERG at aol.com  Sun Sep 16 16:07:04 2007
From: DPENDERG at aol.com (DPENDERG@aol.com)
Date: Sun Sep 16 16:05:29 2007
Subject: [NU Sports] Penalties
Message-ID: <d2d.170f3f45.341ef4f8@aol.com>

 
I know there's a temptation to play the loss on the refs, but the fact is  
that we did not deserve to win. As I feared, the Cats came out flat and  
uninspired, while the Blue Devils were prepared, motivated, and ready to break  their 
streak.  The Cats undoubtedly were the better team, but last night  the 
difference was coaching (similar to the UNH debacle last year).  There  should be 
some real soul-searching by Fitz and his staff on why they did not  have had 
the team better prepared for a game that was certainly winnable  (in contrast to 
what we face the next two weeks).  Our bowl hopes are now  in ruins.  Maybe 
our talent is not at the OSU level. but we're definitely  better than Duke.  
The coaches -- not the refs -- were our downfall.
 
As a former high school football official, I have to defend the  zebras.  
Especially at the college level, these guys are experienced,  constantly 
evaluated, and trying hard to do the best they can in a fast-paced  blur you cannot 
imagine.  They will miss some (and they really missed that  pass interference in 
the end zone at the end), but any deliberate bias toward  one team is 
impossible.  
 
 
In a message dated 9/16/2007 12:14:25 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,  
johnl@mac.com writes:

Naturally I booed the refs a lot last night for all the penalties  
called against us.  But from the stands, it's hard to really judge  the 
calls.  For those watching from home, did we really deserve 125  yards 
in penalties or were there a lot of bad calls?  Given that we  were the 
least penalized team in the Big Ten last year, and in the first  two 
games of this season we were averaging 4 penalties for 40 yards, I  
thought 125 yards of penalties was a lot.  I was especially annoyed  by 
a couple of the refs last night who would throw in a flag after the  
play was over and call holding or a block in the back.  I mean, what  
took so long to decide to throw the flag?  (I thought there were also  a 
couple of bad penalty calls that went in our favor, but many more calls  
and no calls went against  us.)

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From DPENDERG at aol.com  Sun Sep 16 16:16:13 2007
From: DPENDERG at aol.com (DPENDERG@aol.com)
Date: Sun Sep 16 16:14:41 2007
Subject: [NU Sports] Groan!
Message-ID: <cd0.19676899.341ef71d@aol.com>

 
I know we grope to find some convenient excuse for last night's  
embarrassment (whether the officials or an "undervalued" Duke  team).  I would wager 
better than even money Duke does not win  one ACC game this year.  The loss was an 
NU coaching failure.   Period.  Fitz shows his head coach inexperience.  Colby 
is a minor  league defensive coordinator.  McGhee is also inexperienced and 
his play  calling uninspired (especially in those last two drives near the Duke 
end  zone).  Our players deserve better. 
 
 
In a message dated 9/16/2007 5:03:18 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,  
rstetson@capps-assoc.com writes:

IMHO,  Duke was a better team on paper than many gave them credit.

Give them a  good FG kicker and last night's game might have been their 2nd 
win,
instead  of first.

Also - any time you have 5 returning O-Linemen [and your  entire offense back]
they have to get better. They gave Lewis the time to  throw and he used it 
well.
And weren't a lot of throws down the sidelines?  No chance for INTs if you
overthrow.

We should have played better -  I don't know why we keep trying to play
non-conference night games anyway -  we didn't and now we have to bear the 
onus
heading into the conference  season...

rsl

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> Subject: [NU Sports] Groan!
> 
> Why  the hell can't we beat weak teams in the pre-season?  What a
>  disappointment.  We'll get killed the next two weeks.  Every aspect  of the
> team stunk tonight except the kicking game.
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From MHRJGScott at aol.com  Sun Sep 16 16:26:13 2007
From: MHRJGScott at aol.com (MHRJGScott@aol.com)
Date: Sun Sep 16 16:24:36 2007
Subject: [NU Sports] Groan!
Message-ID: <c10.1c14d3a1.341ef975@aol.com>

Yes NU made an emotional pick when Fitz got the job, look at the cubs who  
got Piniella instead of Girardi, Fitz probably needs to go back to asst. coach  
somewhere and NU needs to spend for better coaches.



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From pminerva at sbcglobal.net  Sun Sep 16 16:37:39 2007
From: pminerva at sbcglobal.net (Paul Minerva)
Date: Sun Sep 16 16:32:13 2007
Subject: [NU Sports] Groan!
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I agree with your analysis of the game!

DPENDERG@aol.com wrote:  
I know we grope to find some convenient excuse for last night's 
embarrassment (whether the officials or an "undervalued" Duke team). I would wager 
better than even money Duke does not win one ACC game this year. The loss was an 
NU coaching failure. Period. Fitz shows his head coach inexperience. Colby 
is a minor league defensive coordinator. McGhee is also inexperienced and 
his play calling uninspired (especially in those last two drives near the Duke 
end zone). Our players deserve better. 


In a message dated 9/16/2007 5:03:18 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, 
rstetson@capps-assoc.com writes:

IMHO, Duke was a better team on paper than many gave them credit.

Give them a good FG kicker and last night's game might have been their 2nd 
win,
instead of first.

Also - any time you have 5 returning O-Linemen [and your entire offense back]
they have to get better. They gave Lewis the time to throw and he used it 
well.
And weren't a lot of throws down the sidelines? No chance for INTs if you
overthrow.

We should have played better - I don't know why we keep trying to play
non-conference night games anyway - we didn't and now we have to bear the 
onus
heading into the conference season...

rsl

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> Subject: [NU Sports] Groan!
> 
> Why the hell can't we beat weak teams in the pre-season? What a
> disappointment. We'll get killed the next two weeks. Every aspect of the
> team stunk tonight except the kicking game.
> 
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From neilkaplan at yahoo.com  Sun Sep 16 19:34:02 2007
From: neilkaplan at yahoo.com (Neil Kaplan)
Date: Sun Sep 16 19:28:37 2007
Subject: [NU Sports] Groan!
Message-ID: <246166.57244.qm@web54108.mail.re2.yahoo.com>

Totally agree that much of the issue here is Fitz's inexperience - this is a the price we pay for having a coach that bleeds purple.
Strongly disagree that he is not the person for the job.  Over the next few years we are going to have several of these 'learning experience' games that we will forget about after he is here for 10+ years.
The key for Fitz is to have enough self-awareness to beef up his coaching staff with ex-head coaches with some gray hair.  Think of Don Zimmer as the Yanks bench coach or the ex-college HC's in coordinator roles in the NFL.  He needs a 'bench coach' that can mentor him into his role.
 
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To: DPENDERG@aol.com; nwu-sports@tssi.com
Sent: Sunday, September 16, 2007 2:37:39 PM
Subject: Re: [NU Sports] Groan!

I agree with your analysis of the game!

DPENDERG@aol.com wrote:  
I know we grope to find some convenient excuse for last night's 
embarrassment (whether the officials or an "undervalued" Duke team). I would wager 
better than even money Duke does not win one ACC game this year. The loss was an 
NU coaching failure. Period. Fitz shows his head coach inexperience. Colby 
is a minor league defensive coordinator. McGhee is also inexperienced and 
his play calling uninspired (especially in those last two drives near the Duke 
end zone). Our players deserve better. 


In a message dated 9/16/2007 5:03:18 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, 
rstetson@capps-assoc.com writes:

IMHO, Duke was a better team on paper than many gave them credit.

Give them a good FG kicker and last night's game might have been their 2nd 
win,
instead of first.

Also - any time you have 5 returning O-Linemen [and your entire offense back]
they have to get better. They gave Lewis the time to throw and he used it 
well.
And weren't a lot of throws down the sidelines? No chance for INTs if you
overthrow.

We should have played better - I don't know why we keep trying to play
non-conference night games anyway - we didn't and now we have to bear the 
onus
heading into the conference season...

rsl

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From CHerron604 at aol.com  Sun Sep 16 19:42:28 2007
From: CHerron604 at aol.com (CHerron604@aol.com)
Date: Sun Sep 16 19:38:09 2007
Subject: [NU Sports] Groan!
Message-ID: <d51.11dafbac.341f2774@aol.com>

He needs to develop a better sense of who his assistants should be...He  
already has one gray hair - quite possibly the worst DC in Div-I...This team has  
been horribly prepared for 2 games now.   
 
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From thehaze at earthlink.net  Sun Sep 16 20:34:01 2007
From: thehaze at earthlink.net (Jim Bendat)
Date: Sun Sep 16 20:28:35 2007
Subject: [NU Sports] Big 10 HD TV
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DirecTV says it's coming . . . but possibly not in time for this 
football season.

Martinitis@aol.com wrote:
> Anyone know what happened to the HD broadcasts on the Big 10 Network?  They 
> keep promoting them, including last nite's debacle, but I haven't seen one yet 
> on DirecTV.  Are they on some alternate channel?
>  
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From rstetson at capps-assoc.com  Sun Sep 16 21:11:43 2007
From: rstetson at capps-assoc.com (Roy Lamberton)
Date: Sun Sep 16 21:08:19 2007
Subject: [NU Sports] Penalties
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I thought we came out pretty fired up - especially after getting a turnover
right after CJ's first INT.

But then the flags started flying, and our D had to back down from being overly
aggressive.

Its seemed that the D was flat after Dinard's 15 yarder, and played poorly until
the 2nd half.

rsl

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> Behalf Of DPENDERG@aol.com
> Sent: Sunday, September 16, 2007 5:07 PM
> To: nwu-sports@romaine.tssi.com
> Subject: Re: [NU Sports] Penalties
> 
> 
> I know there's a temptation to play the loss on the refs, but the fact is
> that we did not deserve to win. As I feared, the Cats came out flat and
> uninspired, while the Blue Devils were prepared, motivated, and ready to
> break  their
> streak.  The Cats undoubtedly were the better team, but last night  the
> difference was coaching (similar to the UNH debacle last year).  There
> should be
> some real soul-searching by Fitz and his staff on why they did not  have
> had
> the team better prepared for a game that was certainly winnable  (in
> contrast to
> what we face the next two weeks).  Our bowl hopes are now  in ruins.  Maybe
> our talent is not at the OSU level. but we're definitely  better than Duke.
> The coaches -- not the refs -- were our downfall.
> 
> As a former high school football official, I have to defend the  zebras.
> Especially at the college level, these guys are experienced,  constantly
> evaluated, and trying hard to do the best they can in a fast-paced  blur
> you cannot
> imagine.  They will miss some (and they really missed that  pass
> interference in
> the end zone at the end), but any deliberate bias toward  one team is
> impossible.
> 
> 
> In a message dated 9/16/2007 12:14:25 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
> johnl@mac.com writes:
> 
> Naturally I booed the refs a lot last night for all the penalties
> called against us.  But from the stands, it's hard to really judge  the
> calls.  For those watching from home, did we really deserve 125  yards
> in penalties or were there a lot of bad calls?  Given that we  were the
> least penalized team in the Big Ten last year, and in the first  two
> games of this season we were averaging 4 penalties for 40 yards, I
> thought 125 yards of penalties was a lot.  I was especially annoyed  by
> a couple of the refs last night who would throw in a flag after the
> play was over and call holding or a block in the back.  I mean, what
> took so long to decide to throw the flag?  (I thought there were also  a
> couple of bad penalty calls that went in our favor, but many more calls
> and no calls went against  us.)
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From jeff.beamsley at hilgraeve.com  Sun Sep 16 21:38:38 2007
From: jeff.beamsley at hilgraeve.com (Jeff Beamsley)
Date: Sun Sep 16 21:35:32 2007
Subject: [NU Sports] Groan!
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We all knew this would be a "learn on the job" sort of engagement.  You know
he is going to get better.

I think that we have to see how he recruits before we pass judgment.

Among other things, hopefully he learned that he could have won this game by
kicking field goals.  

I also thought taking the field goal off the board and going for the
touchdown sent the message to his defense that he didn't trust they were
going to be able to hold Duke in the second half (which they did with Duke's
help).

Not kicking the second field goal told his defense that the didn't think that
they could get the ball back and his offense that he didn't think they would
give the team another scoring opportunity (both wrong).

Jeff



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Yes NU made an emotional pick when Fitz got the job, look at the cubs who got
Piniella instead of Girardi, Fitz probably needs to go back to asst. coach
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From sjtruog at yahoo.com  Sun Sep 16 22:43:11 2007
From: sjtruog at yahoo.com (SjT (Stephen J. Truog))
Date: Sun Sep 16 22:37:48 2007
Subject: [NU Sports] Fitz (was: Groan!)
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> We all knew this would be a "learn on the job" sort
> of engagement.  You know
> he is going to get better.

Exactly - I'm perfectly comfortable with Fitz as our
coach. In fact, I love that we have a coach who is a
"Northwestern man" (to borrow Bo's phrase), will be
here hopefully for a long time and will do everything
he can to build a winning program. He has the
optimism, enthusiasm and ability to be a head coach
and we need to make sure he's our coach.

The coordinators, however, are where we need help.
Fitz is young and understandably relies on his
coordinators - which is fine for many coaches new and
experienced. But our coordinators have not been up to
the task this year - both lack innovation and
imagination so far.

> Among other things, hopefully he learned that he
> could have won this game by
> kicking field goals.  

Hard to argue with that, but I still won't fault Fitz
for taking the points off the board. We should be able
to make 4th and 2 against Duke. And we had chance
after chance to score after the decision. At the time,
our D was allowing big plays and our O was stagnant -
trading 3 for 7 wasn't good and we needed a TD to
swing back momentum. Who knew Duke would go
uber-conservative in the play calling in the second
half?!

And let's not forget that more experienced coaches
have made similar mistakes - most notably in NU's
history is Barnett's 2-point conversion decisions
before the 4th quarter in the Rose Bowl.

The 4th down decision was way down the list of
problems yesterday and regardless, I'm 100 percent
sure Fitz is our man and proud to have him in purple.

If things don't start changing soon, however, I think
we need to do some serious re-evaluating of the
assistants and either pony up some money to bring in
big-name assistants with the lure of near total
control over their side of the ball (which I don't
think Fitz would object to) ... or scour the MAC for
some up-and-coming assistants who may not be on our
staff for long but could teach a few tricks while Fitz
grows into the job.

GO CATS!!!
-SjT

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From jonathanwhodges at gmail.com  Sun Sep 16 22:47:05 2007
From: jonathanwhodges at gmail.com (Jonathan Hodges)
Date: Sun Sep 16 22:41:57 2007
Subject: [NU Sports] Penalties
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I would argue that the D was pretty bad right off the bat: the only
"takeaway" by NU was a dropped ball by Duke's QB Lewis in the backfield with
no pressure on him - basically an unforced error.  The next 3 times duke had
the ball they drove 86, 70, and 80 yards, respectively for TDs.  NU didn't
force a punt until after the half.  I would say that is not a good start.

In any case I don't want to get dragged too far into this discussion.  I
would rather move on and get over this mess than dwell on the negatives.

Jonathan

On 9/16/07, Roy Lamberton <rstetson@capps-assoc.com> wrote:
>
> I thought we came out pretty fired up - especially after getting a
> turnover
> right after CJ's first INT.
>
> But then the flags started flying, and our D had to back down from being
> overly
> aggressive.
>
> Its seemed that the D was flat after Dinard's 15 yarder, and played poorly
> until
> the 2nd half.
>
> rsl
>
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> > Behalf Of DPENDERG@aol.com
> > Sent: Sunday, September 16, 2007 5:07 PM
> > To: nwu-sports@romaine.tssi.com
> > Subject: Re: [NU Sports] Penalties
> >
> >
> > I know there's a temptation to play the loss on the refs, but the fact
> is
> > that we did not deserve to win. As I feared, the Cats came out flat and
> > uninspired, while the Blue Devils were prepared, motivated, and ready to
> > break  their
> > streak.  The Cats undoubtedly were the better team, but last night  the
> > difference was coaching (similar to the UNH debacle last year).  There
> > should be
> > some real soul-searching by Fitz and his staff on why they did not  have
> > had
> > the team better prepared for a game that was certainly winnable  (in
> > contrast to
> > what we face the next two weeks).  Our bowl hopes are now  in
> ruins.  Maybe
> > our talent is not at the OSU level. but we're definitely  better than
> Duke.
> > The coaches -- not the refs -- were our downfall.
> >
> > As a former high school football official, I have to defend the  zebras.
> > Especially at the college level, these guys are experienced,  constantly
> > evaluated, and trying hard to do the best they can in a fast-paced  blur
> > you cannot
> > imagine.  They will miss some (and they really missed that  pass
> > interference in
> > the end zone at the end), but any deliberate bias toward  one team is
> > impossible.
> >
> >
> > In a message dated 9/16/2007 12:14:25 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
> > johnl@mac.com writes:
> >
> > Naturally I booed the refs a lot last night for all the penalties
> > called against us.  But from the stands, it's hard to really judge  the
> > calls.  For those watching from home, did we really deserve 125  yards
> > in penalties or were there a lot of bad calls?  Given that we  were the
> > least penalized team in the Big Ten last year, and in the first  two
> > games of this season we were averaging 4 penalties for 40 yards, I
> > thought 125 yards of penalties was a lot.  I was especially annoyed  by
> > a couple of the refs last night who would throw in a flag after the
> > play was over and call holding or a block in the back.  I mean, what
> > took so long to decide to throw the flag?  (I thought there were also  a
> > couple of bad penalty calls that went in our favor, but many more calls
> > and no calls went against  us.)
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From Alan.Abrahamson at nbcsports.com  Sun Sep 16 23:04:30 2007
From: Alan.Abrahamson at nbcsports.com (Abrahamson, Alan (NBC Universal))
Date: Sun Sep 16 23:01:04 2007
Subject: [NU Sports] Buckeyes
Message-ID: <33C4F11DF8639640A51C79CB484166FF031D2106@RKFMLVEM02.e2k.ad.ge.com>

OK, rather than dwell on the (many) negatives of the Duke game, I will
take Mr. Hodges up on his offer. Candidly, I am still trying not to
puke. But I will attempt to move on.
 To wit:
 What would it take for this group of Wildcats to beat the Buckeyes this
Saturday in Columbus?
 You're game-planning. How do you beat Ohio State? 
 As an Ohio native, let me also reiterate -- as I do every year at this
juncture -- how much I would truly love to see the Wildcats dump the
Buckeyes. Twice in one's lifetime is simply not enough. 
 Go Wildcats!
 Alan
  
From jonathanwhodges at gmail.com  Mon Sep 17 06:21:41 2007
From: jonathanwhodges at gmail.com (Jonathan Hodges)
Date: Mon Sep 17 06:16:32 2007
Subject: [NU Sports] Buckeyes
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Regarding the OSU game, while I haven't done a whole lot of research yet -
NU has a few things they will need to do in order to have a shot:

- Win the turnover battle (or at least don't lose it): last year the 'Cats'
5 turnovers against OSU killed them before they even had a shot.  You can't
give a better team that kind of advantage.  The 'Cats must be more
aggressive on defense and force turnovers, while continuing to protect the
ball on offense - the only bad mistake of the year so far for NU was the
pick on the 3rd play of the last game which Duke fortunately gave right
back.

- Generate a pass rush: NU MUST get to the QB.  If this means constantly
blitzing, then so be it.  OSU still has a first-year starter who can't have
all day to throw otherwise NU will be looking at Heisman-esque passing
numbers.

- Continue to play great special teams.  This is what good teams
consistently do well - and so far NU kicking/punting has been great.  The
only area needing some improvement appears to be the punt return team that
hasn't had a significant return in some time (since Fitz took over the
longest return has been Smith's 21 yard return against OSU last year).

- Protect Bacher: CJ had to make some crazy scrambles over the first 3 games
to elude pressure - even the over-sized and over-matched I-AA/FCS
Northeastern had 3 sacks.  The OL must do a better job protecting Bacher
especially with the pass-heavy offense NU has shown thus far.

- Establish offensive rhythm.  The 'Cats must run the ball along with
passing in the right mix to keep time of possession on their side and
sustain drives.  Oh, and NU must finish off drives, something it didn't have
a problem doing until Fitz mysteriously took 3 points off the board last
week.

Finally, NU needs to out-coach an opponent.  Of course OSU is a tough team
to out-coach, but thus far the 'Cats have been out-coached by everyone - and
were lucky that they could out-play the first 2 opponents.  The defensive
game plan needs adjustment prior to the game, not at halftime.  And the
offense should be able to move the ball and score effectively without
pulling out every play in the book.  Also, reducing those penalties back to
a typical Fitz-coached level would be nice (NU was #1 in least penalties and
yards last year) - although considering what we saw this past week that is
probably more a function of the officials than anything else.

Also a native of Ohio, I would love to see an NU win in Columbus more than
just about anything, and thus far here are the scores against OSU in their
house since 2000: 20-38, 0-20, and 7-48.  I hope the 'Cats find a way to at
least make this one a game.

Go 'Cats!!!
Jonathan

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On 9/16/07, Abrahamson, Alan (NBC Universal) <Alan.Abrahamson@nbcsports.com>
wrote:
>
> OK, rather than dwell on the (many) negatives of the Duke game, I will
> take Mr. Hodges up on his offer. Candidly, I am still trying not to
> puke. But I will attempt to move on.
> To wit:
> What would it take for this group of Wildcats to beat the Buckeyes this
> Saturday in Columbus?
> You're game-planning. How do you beat Ohio State?
> As an Ohio native, let me also reiterate -- as I do every year at this
> juncture -- how much I would truly love to see the Wildcats dump the
> Buckeyes. Twice in one's lifetime is simply not enough.
> Go Wildcats!
> Alan
>
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From christopher_bailey at yahoo.com  Mon Sep 17 09:16:23 2007
From: christopher_bailey at yahoo.com (Christopher Bailey)
Date: Mon Sep 17 09:11:04 2007
Subject: [NU Sports] Re: offensive play calling
Message-ID: <758730.87699.qm@web60319.mail.yahoo.com>

NB: I originally asked:

> Is anyone else concerned at the ratio of rushes to
> passes?

Turns out, as I reread the last several digests worth of posts, that more than a handful of you were.  Sorry to have asked a question previously answered.  

That said, I do want to clarify why I'm concerned about the defensive line.  As I only caught the game over the internet, I might have missed the impact the d-line had, but when you make (at one point) 12 consecutive passes, the impression is that the opposing d-line isn't causing you any worries.

Here's hoping that mistakes are learned from and the team plays to the best of their abilities this weekend and for the rest of the season.

LETS GO 'CATS
Christopher Bailey
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----- Original Message ----

From: "SjT \(Stephen J. Truog\)" <sjtruog@yahoo.com>

Actually, the D line was one of the few bright spots
today ... mostly thanks to Lloyd Carr stepping in as
Duke's offensive play caller in the second half. Yeesh
did they try not to lose!






From johnadeg at comcast.net  Mon Sep 17 12:56:41 2007
From: johnadeg at comcast.net (johnadeg@comcast.net)
Date: Mon Sep 17 12:51:49 2007
Subject: [NU Sports] Groan!
Message-ID: <091720071756.27887.46EEBFD9000A273100006CEF2215567074090A0B0E02080106@comcast.net>

The reason for playing a night game is to try to make the attendance look better than for a high school  game.

John DeGroat
 -------------- Original message ----------------------
From: "Roy Lamberton" <rstetson@capps-assoc.com>
> IMHO, Duke was a better team on paper than many gave them credit.
> 
> Give them a good FG kicker and last night's game might have been their 2nd win,
> instead of first.
> 
> Also - any time you have 5 returning O-Linemen [and your entire offense back]
> they have to get better. They gave Lewis the time to throw and he used it well.
> And weren't a lot of throws down the sidelines? No chance for INTs if you
> overthrow.
> 
> We should have played better - I don't know why we keep trying to play
> non-conference night games anyway - we didn't and now we have to bear the onus
> heading into the conference season...
> 
> rsl
> 
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> > Sent: Saturday, September 15, 2007 11:31 PM
> > To: nwu-sports@tssi.com
> > Subject: [NU Sports] Groan!
> > 
> > Why the hell can't we beat weak teams in the pre-season?  What a
> > disappointment.  We'll get killed the next two weeks.  Every aspect of the
> > team stunk tonight except the kicking game.
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From MHRJGScott at aol.com  Mon Sep 17 12:58:04 2007
From: MHRJGScott at aol.com (MHRJGScott@aol.com)
Date: Mon Sep 17 12:57:32 2007
Subject: [NU Sports] Buckeyes
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Maybe we could pay them off? I'll contribute....I just hope we make a game  
of it...on national TV no less ESPNHD.



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From clzahn at mindspring.com  Mon Sep 17 13:22:06 2007
From: clzahn at mindspring.com (Clark Zahn)
Date: Mon Sep 17 13:16:38 2007
Subject: [NU Sports] Buckeyes
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-----Original Message-----
>From: MHRJGScott@aol.com
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>
>Maybe we could pay them off? I'll contribute....I just hope we make a game  
>of it...on national TV no less ESPNHD.
>
>
>


I worry that these repeated coaching failures are going to make the team lose confidence in the coaching staff and just give up.  I'm beginning to think to that Fitz is in over his head.  Either that or Murphy won't let him change his staff.

Clark Zahn



From jleonard518 at yahoo.com  Mon Sep 17 17:50:18 2007
From: jleonard518 at yahoo.com (Jim Leonard)
Date: Mon Sep 17 17:44:49 2007
Subject: [NU Sports] Buckeyes
Message-ID: <634399.67148.qm@web36814.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

Fellow Wildcat Faithful,

I  believe we can beat Ohio State. Just like our game with Duke was a classic 'trap' game, I think we represent the same obstacle for teh Buckeyes. They are coming off a big road win and I think the right game plan by NU could sneak up on them. 

Offensively, I hope we use the real spread - set 4 WRs wide so that the defense is stretched thin. Then, run the ball, both Sutton and Bacher, until the passing opportunities open up. My biggest criticism of McGee so far is that he seems to like the tightly bunched formations. I'm sure they give the defense a different look, but they don't force the defenders to cover more real estate. 

To win in the horseshoe we're going to need a few breaks and we'll have to gamble a few times. But, if our coaches can get the team focused (and RUN THE BALL) we can play with the Bucks. 

Victory & Honor,
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From Hakirsch at aol.com  Mon Sep 17 18:02:13 2007
From: Hakirsch at aol.com (Hakirsch@aol.com)
Date: Mon Sep 17 17:57:47 2007
Subject: [NU Sports] Buckeyes
Message-ID: <d49.11f77e42.34206175@aol.com>

Well I would love to beat them--but just can't see it at the Shoe--If we were 
a real solid team this year--perhaps thinking about .500 in conf--I could 
possibly believe we could pull a surprise--But we were lucky to beat a poor to 
mediocre Nevada team-,-lost at home to one of the poorer Div 1  teams in the 
country(or whatever it is called now !)  . tOSU may not be what is has been , but 
sorry to sound like a party pooper to the Wildcat faithful listening out 
there, but I think we will be lucky to be in the game at the half

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From tbng at comcast.net  Mon Sep 17 18:19:19 2007
From: tbng at comcast.net (Dennis W. Brandt)
Date: Mon Sep 17 18:14:33 2007
Subject: [NU Sports] Big 10 Network non-sports
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I currently have the old DVR cranking out a performance of the Mozart Mass 
in C Minor performed in Alice Millar Chapel by the NU Chapel Choir and 
members of the NU Symphony Orchestra.  Not great recorded sound but a fine 
performance with some good orchestral playing and excellent college-level 
vocalists.  They had a real snobby but funny commercial for the school 
involving (allegedly) some of the football players, the band, cheerleaders, 
and a fans.  Clearly they didn't use anyone from the School of Speech acting 
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From CHerron604 at aol.com  Mon Sep 17 18:29:53 2007
From: CHerron604 at aol.com (CHerron604@aol.com)
Date: Mon Sep 17 18:25:43 2007
Subject: [NU Sports] Buckeyes
Message-ID: <c40.1dcff2e3.342067f1@aol.com>

My prediction (unfortunately)...
 
Monday-Thursday: Garrick McGee and Greg Colby sit in their well-appointed  
offices and admire the walls (maybe Colby stares at some Kent memorabilia from  
the late 90's)
 
Friday: Fly to Columbus.  Colby still not altogether sure who we are  playing 
('Somebody East ?  Maybe it's Kent !').
 
1st half Saturday: tOSU piles up anywhere from 1 time to 3 times their  
average offensive output (this number is now referred to as the 'Colby Factor')  en 
route to a 35-3 score.  McGee, sticking to recent trends, doesn't bother  to 
try a running play, since 'he's more comfortable with the passing  game'.
 
Halftime: Now aware of the opponent, Colby makes a flurry  of adjustments.  
Seeing the team trailing, McGee resolves to open up  the offense a bit.
 
2nd half: O manages to move the ball better (based more on the guts and  
talents of individual players than on play-calling), D makes some stops (again  
based more on the heart of the players than on any insight from the coaches),  
it's all too late, 42-10 OSU
 
I hope I am wrong, but it's hard to look at the last 2 games and predict  
anything different.
 
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From jmccull at insight.rr.com  Mon Sep 17 18:33:44 2007
From: jmccull at insight.rr.com (J.R. McCullough)
Date: Mon Sep 17 18:28:37 2007
Subject: [NU Sports] Buckeye prediction
Message-ID: <002a01c7f983$302aece0$6401a8c0@JROFFICEHP>

We just do not have the horses to run with the Buckeyes. I feel it will be another blow-out in the 'shoe this weekend. Thank God I didn't buy tickets when I had  the chance, because this is going to be a major league butt-kicking. I predict us losing 54-9.

Sorry to be such a downer, but I am just totally demoralized after this weekend's loss. That loss was just totally unacceptable. Why, oh why didn't we realize that the blitz was not working and make adjustment DURING THE FIRST HALF? It seemed every pass that kid completed was to the man running where the blitzing linebacker used to be. What a disappointment. Why didn't we run the ball -- including the QB draw? Why didn't we run more varied plays when we did rush the football? Let's not even talk about the field goal. I've seen better coaching at the high school level.

The Buckeyes are FAST, well-coached, and deep on defense. They are solid on the offensive line, and have a QB coming off of a major confidence-inspiring win. I just hope we don't get anyone hurt.
From bwdolphin146 at yahoo.com  Mon Sep 17 19:41:57 2007
From: bwdolphin146 at yahoo.com (Brad Wilson)
Date: Mon Sep 17 19:36:29 2007
Subject: [NU Sports] osu game plan
Message-ID: <357759.60167.qm@web51301.mail.re2.yahoo.com>

Alan offers a challenge. OK ...

1) Big plays. We need them. 80-yard drives against the
OSU defense are not that likely. Try some passes that
could go for big yards. A trick play or two. Some of
kind of reverse? A nifty screen?

2) Take some chances on defense. We need turnovers. Go
for it. Don't sit back and be picked apart. Rush 9
guys on 3rd-and-11. If they hit a big one or two,
fine, as long as we get one or two back.

3) Emphasize field position. Tressel is conservative
in his own end. Tell Demos to punt to pin them inside
the 25 or so, not just for distance. Avoid really long
FG tries.

4) Big plays from special teams. Go for a punt block,
set up something nifty on kick returns.

bw 

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From michael.vance at att.net  Mon Sep 17 21:49:08 2007
From: michael.vance at att.net (Michael Vance)
Date: Mon Sep 17 21:44:14 2007
Subject: [NU Sports] Big 10 HD TV
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DirecTV's HD capacity is maxxed out until (supposedly) mid-October.  
I've heard that all of the new satellites are in the air, but that it 
will be October before the additional capacity comes on-line.  Whether 
they will immediately start showing BTN in HD remains to be seen.  Write 
or call them to let them know that you want it ASAP.

-Michael

Jim Bendat wrote:
> DirecTV says it's coming . . . but possibly not in time for this 
> football season.
>
> Martinitis@aol.com wrote:
>> Anyone know what happened to the HD broadcasts on the Big 10 
>> Network?  They keep promoting them, including last nite's debacle, 
>> but I haven't seen one yet on DirecTV.  Are they on some alternate 
>> channel?
>>  
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From sjtruog at yahoo.com  Mon Sep 17 23:33:16 2007
From: sjtruog at yahoo.com (SjT (Stephen J. Truog))
Date: Mon Sep 17 23:27:47 2007
Subject: [NU Sports] PIGSKIN PICKS - Week 4
Message-ID: <486144.18903.qm@web52902.mail.re2.yahoo.com>

Standings coming soon (maybe:) ), but with the slim
pickings this week, we're going to take the THURSDAY
night game, so make sure you get your picks in on
time.

It's time for the conference season to start, and to
once again show which leagues are the deepest, it's
the SEC and Big Ten games that really keep the folks
watching the television this weekend. Remember, picks
are due by kickoff THURSDAY.

PIGSKIN PICKS - WEEK 4
######################
Name: 

BIG TEN
=======
GAME  1: Illinois @ Indiana
WINNER : 

GAME  2: Iowa @ Wisconsin
WINNER : 

GAME  3: Michigan State @ Notre Dame
WINNER : 

GAME  4: Penn State @ Michigan
WINNER : 

GAME  5: Purdue @ Minnesota
WINNER : 

NATIONAL
========
GAME  6: Texas A&M @ Miami (FL)
WINNER : 

GAME  7: South Carolina @ Louisiana State
WINNER : 

GAME  8: Georgia @ Alabama
WINNER : 

GAME  9: Kentucky @ Arkansas
WINNER : 

GAME 10: Washington State @ Southern Cal
WINNER : 

MY PICKS
========
* INDIANA 34, Illinois 31 - Fun game with two bowl
hopefuls with high-powered offenses. Indy wins at
home.

* WISCONSIN 37, Iowa 17 - Wisky's red-out was pretty
lame compared to PSU's white-out, but Camp Randall
under the lights is still intimidating and Iowa's
reeling from losing the Cy-Hawk last week.

* MICHIGAN STATE 17, Notre Dame 7 - If the Irish are
gonna get a win before November, this is the likely
game at home. But their offense is horrible, and as
long as Sparty can hold on to the ball, they win.

* PENN STATE 20, Michigan 14 - The Nits may be the
class of the Big Ten, but they still have a giant M
mental block, so winning in Ann Arbor will be tough.
This time, though, the late pass to Manningham fails
and the Lions get the Lloyd Carr monkey off their
back.

* PURDUE 56, Minnesota 21 - That bloody train whistle
will get a lot of work this year as Minny's D may be
the worst in the Big Ten (and that's saying a lot)
while Purdue's O may be the best.

* TEXAS A&M 23, Miami 20 - The Canes at least look
respectable at home this time against the Big XII, but
ATM should still be able to power over a mid-ACC team.

* LSU 33, South Carolina 13 - If Spurrier can pull
this one off, he's an uber-genius. At least it's not
Death Valley at night.

* ALABAMA 28, Georgia 24 - Tempted to go with the
Dawgs here, but the Tide will still be on a roll after
last week and use the home crowd -- already erecting a
statue of Saban that's almost as large as Nick's ego
-- to ride to victory.

* ARKANSAS 35, Kentucky 24 - Back to reality and the
SEC as the Wildcats discover not every defense is as
porous as Louisville's and fall in Hog Heaven.

* USC 45, Washington State 10 - C'mon ... go with the
AppState size upset. I dare ya!:) Nah!

And off the board ...

* OHIO STATE 31, Northwestern 13 - The Cats should
have won last week but are overmatched this week in
the Shoe. If they want to have a chance, they need to
weather the first quarter storm better than the last
few NU teams that visited Columbus.

Picks due by kickoff THURSDAY!
GO CATS!!!
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From WildElk2 at aol.com  Tue Sep 18 18:29:31 2007
From: WildElk2 at aol.com (WildElk2@aol.com)
Date: Tue Sep 18 18:28:04 2007
Subject: [NU Sports] Groan!
Message-ID: <c05.1fe85252.3421b95b@aol.com>

As usual, after losses like this, wildelk needs time to digest  posts, get 
back to work on Monday and take abuse, etc.  I had a feeling  this was coming, 
as I posted on our list that I felt Duke would win. I predicted  a 24-31 
setback.
   Even so, I've felt miserable since Saturday.   With  that said, I was able 
to watch the Nevada game (with fellow list member  Dennis) and determined 
that our defensive line is too slow.  I think  we need to sacrifice experience 
for speed.  Napo Harris and Kevin bentley  lined up left, right, at LB, all over 
the place.  A good place to start is  with Brad Phillips, as here he can fly. 
  We need someone to disrupt  rhythem!
   So has anyone figured out why we allowed 44 points  collectively in the 
first half the past 2 games, and 7 in the second?
   Offense: as we allowed 20 points vs. Duke and roll up 500  yards and score 
14 points, our offense should have bailed us out.  Take the  FG, run more, 
whatever.
   Coaches: Im provement must be made.  If may have to wait  until after 
Michigan and OSU if your looking for wins.  I knew after the  Nevada game my 
prediction of 8-4 was going to be a reach.  However, our  coaches need to get us 
better. There's a lot of wins out there, and we need to  get to 6 wins for extra 
practices, exposure , etc.  Save Mich and OSU, we  should be in every game.
   We all know that our schedule is the weakest it's been in  years.  It may 
be the thing that saves us
 
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From WildElk2 at aol.com  Tue Sep 18 18:36:57 2007
From: WildElk2 at aol.com (WildElk2@aol.com)
Date: Tue Sep 18 18:35:14 2007
Subject: [NU Sports] Let's remember
Message-ID: <c7b.18ca8661.3421bb19@aol.com>

Last season we Kafka and Brewer were 2-4 with wins over the  worst Miami(OH) 
in decades (2-10) and E. michigan (2-10).  CJ was 2-3 with  the Michigan St. 
debacle mixed in.  Providing Sutton returns and McGee  pulls his head out of 
his butt, we have the ability to pass as well as run;  something that we didn't 
possess the first 6 games.
   I still believe this season will turn out fine; although I was  hoping for 
Phoenix or Orlando instead of Detroit!
 
   GO CATS!!!  
 
PS- Minnesota game could be a "save the season" game ala 2003 and  2004.



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From sjtruog at yahoo.com  Tue Sep 18 21:44:36 2007
From: sjtruog at yahoo.com (SjT (Stephen J. Truog))
Date: Tue Sep 18 21:39:03 2007
Subject: [NU Sports] Programming alert ...
Message-ID: <810267.6572.qm@web52904.mail.re2.yahoo.com>

I'll add my kudos to NU's second round of campus
programming on the Big Ten Network. The Mozart Mass in
Alice Millar Chapel was just wonderful. My TiVo picked
it up last night and it sounds and looks fantastic -
great to see Northwestern's talented student musicians
and vocalists get their showcase! It will be on again
tomorrow morning at 9am Wildcat time.

I see that NU also has another show next week
featuring Waa-Mu ... so looks like we're getting more
play on the campus programming part than most other
schools early on (Maybe because we don't have a
coaches show? Or just because we were more prepared?)

Love the NU commercial of the football players,
cheerleaders, band and fans in the stand waxing
educational during the game!:)

Also, I noticed that football fans in need of some
cheering up (aren't we all!:) ) can relive not one,
but two NU-Michigan games next week! ESPN Classic will
showcase the 1995 win in Ann Arbor (9/28 @ noon Purple
Clock Tower time) and the 2000 classic in Evanston
(9/25 @ 2pm NU time). The 54-51 game will also be
featured as the BTN's "greatest games" feature 9/25 at
5pm Evanston time with retrospective from journalists,
players, etc. mixed in with the highlights.

That late afternoon contest still gives me goosebumps
as I can see the sure TD on fourth down slip out of
DA2's hands only to be followed by my second-favorite
fumble in history (Ron Dayne's one in Camp Randall was
pretty sweet). Maybe it will inspire the team for
Michigan week!:)

Tonight's 1999 Illinois-Indiana game may be stretching
the "greatest games" definition of the BTN a bit, but
the 2000 NU-Michigan game certainly fits that bill.
One of many that should be on their programming list
featuring the purple over the next few months!

GO CATS!!!
-SjT

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From nolan at romaine.tssi.com  Thu Sep 20 13:05:46 2007
From: nolan at romaine.tssi.com (Mike Nolan)
Date: Thu Sep 20 13:05:51 2007
Subject: [NU Sports] Fact-checking on an AP wire story
Message-ID: <200709201805.l8KI5kgD012758@romaine.tssi.com>

The Sporting News website has an AP story about Oklahoma State coach 
Mike Gundy's call for the Big XII to junk their divisions and go to 
a nine-game conference schedule.

In that story, it states that both the Pac 10 and the Big 10 have nine
game conference schedules.

The last time I checked (a few minutes ago), the Big 10 only has an 
eight game conference schedule, which is why Northwestern doesn't play 
either Wisconsin or Penn State this year.  

Unfortunately, the AP story doesn't have a byline, so I'm not sure
who forgot to do some basic fact-checking here.
--
Mike Nolan

From szeller at comcast.net  Thu Sep 20 13:30:43 2007
From: szeller at comcast.net (szeller@comcast.net)
Date: Thu Sep 20 13:25:41 2007
Subject: [NU Sports] Fact-checking on an AP wire story
Message-ID: <092020071830.13312.46F2BC53000A5F400000340022165514069D0A04040A969C@comcast.net>

Makes sense for Oklahoma State to want more conference games. After being slaughtered last week by previously winless Sun Belt Conference juggernaut Troy, they probably want some winnable games on their schedule. The Big 12 is likely the only place to get those.

Scott Zeller MD
Med '86

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> The Sporting News website has an AP story about Oklahoma State coach 
> Mike Gundy's call for the Big XII to junk their divisions and go to 
> a nine-game conference schedule. 
> 
> In that story, it states that both the Pac 10 and the Big 10 have nine 
> game conference schedules. 
> 
> The last time I checked (a few minutes ago), the Big 10 only has an 
> eight game conference schedule, which is why Northwestern doesn't play 
> either Wisconsin or Penn State this year. 
> 
> Unfortunately, the AP story doesn't have a byline, so I'm not sure 
> who forgot to do some basic fact-checking here. 
> -- 
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From CHerron604 at aol.com  Thu Sep 20 13:28:38 2007
From: CHerron604 at aol.com (CHerron604@aol.com)
Date: Thu Sep 20 13:26:46 2007
Subject: [NU Sports] Fact-checking on an AP wire story
Message-ID: <c9c.198a3e8b.342415d6@aol.com>

Maybe the same guys who fact-checked the NU Football Media Guide this  year.  
>From the section on Greg Colby:
 
"Since coming to Northwestern, the Wildcat defense has seen steady  
improvement under Colby."
 
(If there are any English Majors on here - is this sentence even written  
correctly ?  As a Tech guy, it looks like 'The defense, since coming to  
Northwestern, has seen steady improvement...', even though I think they mean  'since 
Colby has come to Northwestern')
 
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From s.fridley at comcast.net  Thu Sep 20 14:08:27 2007
From: s.fridley at comcast.net (s.fridley@comcast.net)
Date: Thu Sep 20 14:03:22 2007
Subject: [NU Sports] Fact-checking on an AP wire story
Message-ID: <092020071908.11085.46F2C52B0002AE5D00002B4D2207021573970A040B079D00D29C@comcast.net>

I thought the same thing on first reading the sentence, but it is true that the Wildcat defense was missing from Northwestern for a time.  


 -------------- Original message ----------------------
From: CHerron604@aol.com
> Maybe the same guys who fact-checked the NU Football Media Guide this  year.  
> >From the section on Greg Colby:
>  
> "Since coming to Northwestern, the Wildcat defense has seen steady  
> improvement under Colby."
>  
> (If there are any English Majors on here - is this sentence even written  
> correctly ?  As a Tech guy, it looks like 'The defense, since coming to  
> Northwestern, has seen steady improvement...', even though I think they mean  
> 'since 
> Colby has come to Northwestern')
>  
> Chuck Herron   Tech '85
> 
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From MHRJGScott at aol.com  Thu Sep 20 14:09:27 2007
From: MHRJGScott at aol.com (MHRJGScott@aol.com)
Date: Thu Sep 20 14:07:41 2007
Subject: [NU Sports] Fact-checking on an AP wire story
Message-ID: <c2b.179b74d8.34241f67@aol.com>

Being a double major in English and philosophy, as well as an MBA from  
Kellogg, I feel uniquely qualified to give you a totally  ambiguous response.  
According to transformational grammar (according  to Chomsky) is that syntax is 
entirely distinct from the question of whether a  sentence is meaningful, or can 
be understood. It is possible for a sentence to  be both grammatical and 
meaningless, as in Chomsky's famous example "_colourless  green ideas sleep 
furiously_ (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Colourless_green_ideas_sleep_furiously) ". 
But such sentences manifest a linguistic  problem distinct from that posed by 
meaningful but ungrammatical (non)-sentences  such as "man the bit sandwich 
the", the meaning of which is fairly clear, but  which no _native speaker_ 
(http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Native_speaker)  would  accept as being well formed. 
In other words it is a badly formed sentence, but  you know what he meant.



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From tbng at comcast.net  Thu Sep 20 15:09:05 2007
From: tbng at comcast.net (Dennis W. Brandt)
Date: Thu Sep 20 15:04:06 2007
Subject: [NU Sports] Fact-checking on an AP wire story
References: <c2b.179b74d8.34241f67@aol.com>
Message-ID: <001801c7fbc2$1877f390$c402a8c0@DennisMachine>

Man!  I write books and I still don't understand this.  Wasn't the media 
guide's statement just an old-fashioned dangling participle?  How many 
points did the Cats give up before the defense arrived?

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> Being a double major in English and philosophy, as well as an MBA from
> Kellogg, I feel uniquely qualified to give you a totally  ambiguous 
> response.
> According to transformational grammar (according  to Chomsky) is that 
> syntax is
> entirely distinct from the question of whether a  sentence is meaningful, 
> or can
> be understood. It is possible for a sentence to  be both grammatical and
> meaningless, as in Chomsky's famous example "_colourless  green ideas 
> sleep
> furiously_ 
> (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Colourless_green_ideas_sleep_furiously) ".
> But such sentences manifest a linguistic  problem distinct from that posed 
> by
> meaningful but ungrammatical (non)-sentences  such as "man the bit 
> sandwich
> the", the meaning of which is fairly clear, but  which no _native speaker_
> (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Native_speaker)  would  accept as being well 
> formed.
> In other words it is a badly formed sentence, but  you know what he meant.
>
>
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From jleonard518 at yahoo.com  Fri Sep 21 06:28:45 2007
From: jleonard518 at yahoo.com (Jim Leonard)
Date: Fri Sep 21 06:23:03 2007
Subject: [NU Sports] Expectations for Saturday
Message-ID: <181511.32688.qm@web36802.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

Fellow Wildcat Faithful,

I believe that the young Buckeye quarterback is due for a bad game and that the team in general is prime for a letdown game. That being said, we haven't played even close to a complete game yet this season, so a lot of things have to go our way tomorrow for the Cats to win.

Beyond a victory, my one expectation (largely of the coaches) is that we look prepared. I am sick of watching the 51-9 drubbings where we look surprised by nearly every aspect of the game. There were far too many of these games when Walker was our coach (but I think Jerry Brown & Greg Colby are mostly to blame). 

I want to see the Cats come out fired up, unafraid, and ready to take some changes. Spread the field wide. Let Bacher and Sutton run the option a little. Let Sutton be Sutton! And on defense, please get aggressive and look prepared. If they beat us with better athletes, I can accept that. If they beat us with better coaches, that's when I start throwing things around the living room. 

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From sjtruog at yahoo.com  Fri Sep 21 08:15:09 2007
From: sjtruog at yahoo.com (SjT (Stephen J. Truog))
Date: Fri Sep 21 08:09:26 2007
Subject: [NU Sports] For those wondering about the BTN and Gameplan ...
Message-ID: <388661.95758.qm@web52903.mail.re2.yahoo.com>

... the Wisky-Iowa game at 8pm on ABC regional is also
on the ESPN game plan lineup. The 2:30 games are not
because if you don't get UM-PSU on ABC (in Ohio), it's
on ESPN.

So should the Cats ever be in that position - looks
like you will have a chance to get Big Ten games on
Gameplan when not on ABC or ESPN.

GO CATS!!!
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From nolan at romaine.tssi.com  Fri Sep 21 10:24:17 2007
From: nolan at romaine.tssi.com (Mike Nolan)
Date: Fri Sep 21 10:24:21 2007
Subject: [NU Sports] For those wondering about the BTN and Gameplan ... (fwd)
Message-ID: <200709211524.l8LFOHHl016032@romaine.tssi.com>

> So should the Cats ever be in that position - looks
> like you will have a chance to get Big Ten games on
> Gameplan when not on ABC or ESPN.

I chose not to pay $100+ for a GamePlan season pass in the hopes that 
I MIGHT get a Northwestern game.

If the Big Ten Network survives until next fall I _may_ get a dish next 
August.  
--
Mike Nolan

From tbng at comcast.net  Fri Sep 21 16:20:26 2007
From: tbng at comcast.net (Dennis W. Brandt)
Date: Fri Sep 21 16:15:27 2007
Subject: [NU Sports] Bad taste
References: <181511.32688.qm@web36802.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <000801c7fc95$3a981300$c402a8c0@DennisMachine>

The local morning newspaper here in York prints a big story every Friday on Penn State's next opponent, which is Michigan this week.  They always have a blurb about the opponent.  This day it was the story and photos of two Michigan graduates:  Jack Kevorkian and Ted Kaczynski.  I guess they ran out of photos of Gerald Ford.

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From tbng at comcast.net  Fri Sep 21 16:32:43 2007
From: tbng at comcast.net (Dennis W. Brandt)
Date: Fri Sep 21 16:27:45 2007
Subject: [NU Sports] Recruits
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It's a bit early, but I note we have nine verbals for next season, two 
three-star offensive linemen and everyone else a two-star rating.  One of 
the two-stars is 6' 9", 342 lb. Neil Deiters from Elmhurst.  He runs a 5.2 
forty, which is pretty good for an OL.  (How would you like to feed him!) 
Seems like he ought to be rated higher.  Then there is 6' 5", 298 lb. Nick 
Adamle from Wheaton.  Wonder if he's any relation to a much smaller Adamle 
who once played for the Cats?

In case you're wondering, Ohio State has 11 verbal commits.  Only two are 
three-star guys.  The rest are four-star except the two five-star.  Michigan 
has 15 verbals, four three-stars and the rest four.  The Evil Empire has 19, 
four three-stars and the rest fours.  Damn, I'd like to see that kind of 
talent come to NU.

I don't see us being even close tomorrow.  We'll get pounded.  Would I love 
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From s.fridley at comcast.net  Fri Sep 21 21:17:55 2007
From: s.fridley at comcast.net (s.fridley@comcast.net)
Date: Fri Sep 21 21:12:46 2007
Subject: [NU Sports] Recruits
Message-ID: <092220070217.12081.46F47B530003293200002F312200734840970A040B079D00D29C@comcast.net>

Yes, Nick Adamle is Mike's nephew.  Also "Julescat's" nephew for those of you who frequent the Rivals board.


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> It's a bit early, but I note we have nine verbals for next season, two 
> three-star offensive linemen and everyone else a two-star rating.  One of 
> the two-stars is 6' 9", 342 lb. Neil Deiters from Elmhurst.  He runs a 5.2 
> forty, which is pretty good for an OL.  (How would you like to feed him!) 
> Seems like he ought to be rated higher.  Then there is 6' 5", 298 lb. Nick 
> Adamle from Wheaton.  Wonder if he's any relation to a much smaller Adamle 
> who once played for the Cats?
> 
> In case you're wondering, Ohio State has 11 verbal commits.  Only two are 
> three-star guys.  The rest are four-star except the two five-star.  Michigan 
> has 15 verbals, four three-stars and the rest four.  The Evil Empire has 19, 
> four three-stars and the rest fours.  Damn, I'd like to see that kind of 
> talent come to NU.
> 
> I don't see us being even close tomorrow.  We'll get pounded.  Would I love 
> to eat crow on that statement. 
> 
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From WildElk2 at aol.com  Fri Sep 21 21:50:30 2007
From: WildElk2 at aol.com (WildElk2@aol.com)
Date: Fri Sep 21 21:48:38 2007
Subject: [NU Sports] Buckeye prediction
Message-ID: <d19.12a4dda9.3425dcf6@aol.com>

I read the transcript of PF's news conference this week.   Pat is still as 
enthusiastic as ever, and makes the point that despite our  trials and 
tribulations, our offense has moved the ball well (which is true),  and the defense has 
played well in the 2nd half of the last two games.  
   As Jim Bendat pointed out, we have yet to play a complete game  this 
season, so I suppose we should be glad we're not 1-2.
   I think we'll play our typical 2, 2 and a half good quarters  tomorrow, 
and hopefully the Bucks will be on cruise control.  I didn't  see much of the 
Wash.-OSU game, but hopefully State' QB will look more  like Justin Zwick than 
Troy Smith.  I heard that OSU played well; hence  their 34-14 win on the road.
   I read that OSU has some sort of streak of winning by 20 or  more points 
against us at the Shoe; maybe 4,5 games running, perhaps  longer.  I think 
we'll stay in the game until the 3rd quarter, but our  defense won't be able to 
keep OSU down forever.  Bacher and Sutton will  have a good day, but we'll wear 
down in the 2nd half; 20-41.  Let's not get  steam rolled and tank the season; 
I have a feeling that won't happen as our  offense will do better in the red 
zone.
 
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From MHRJGScott at aol.com  Sat Sep 22 10:54:12 2007
From: MHRJGScott at aol.com (MHRJGScott@aol.com)
Date: Sat Sep 22 10:52:10 2007
Subject: [NU Sports] Buckeye prediction
Message-ID: <c14.22db33b1.342694a4@aol.com>

 
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From sjtruog at yahoo.com  Sat Sep 22 14:32:48 2007
From: sjtruog at yahoo.com (SjT (Stephen J. Truog))
Date: Sat Sep 22 14:26:59 2007
Subject: [NU Sports] Can we lay off the Big Ten now?
Message-ID: <304907.44568.qm@web52911.mail.re2.yahoo.com>

There was more talk on ESPN this morning how the Big
East was so much improved and how the Big Ten was so
far below the SEC and Pac 10 and even the Big East.

Well, Louisville - one of the Big East powers - is
getting smoked at home by Syracuse. The same Cuse who
lost big to middle-of-the-pack Big Ten teams Iowa and
Illinois. And USF's win at Auburn has lost some of its
luster.

And Nebraska (in Lincoln!) and Florida are in trouble.
Bottom line, there's a lot of parity out there. And
there are still some pretty good teams - and excellent
depth - in the Big Ten.

As for Indiana/Illinois - I alternate between thinking
that NU can beat these guys and that we're in trouble.
They both have some talent but not consistency yet.
Hopefully we can right our coaching woes and use our
experience at winning recently over them.

As for today's game ... I just want to see us play
smarter, more focused football than we did last week
when we gave that game away. That's for our players
and our coaches.

GO CATS!!!
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From MHRJGScott at aol.com  Sat Sep 22 14:51:37 2007
From: MHRJGScott at aol.com (MHRJGScott@aol.com)
Date: Sat Sep 22 14:49:32 2007
Subject: [NU Sports] oh no
Message-ID: <ce5.1c358b53.3426cc49@aol.com>

I think it is going to be very bad.  Why did we give them the  ball????



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From bwdolphin146 at yahoo.com  Sat Sep 22 15:33:23 2007
From: bwdolphin146 at yahoo.com (Brad Wilson)
Date: Sat Sep 22 15:27:33 2007
Subject: [NU Sports] that was the worst
Message-ID: <375159.92155.qm@web51304.mail.re2.yahoo.com>

... quarter I can ever remember.

This looks like 1979 again. 

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From JHCCLARK at aol.com  Sat Sep 22 16:16:51 2007
From: JHCCLARK at aol.com (JHCCLARK@aol.com)
Date: Sat Sep 22 16:14:50 2007
Subject: [NU Sports] Throw the Ball DOWNFIELD
Message-ID: <6C54DFB1.7386217E.006D6456@aol.com>

Even if it is incomplete, at least then they will have something else to think about and you won't have the &%#!-eyes lining up just 5 yards off the line of scrimmage.  Right now, it's screens and draws and sweeps.  Stretch the field.

Shameful.


From MHRJGScott at aol.com  Sat Sep 22 18:15:24 2007
From: MHRJGScott at aol.com (MHRJGScott@aol.com)
Date: Sat Sep 22 18:13:19 2007
Subject: [NU Sports] ESPN bias?
Message-ID: <be9.1d2895f8.3426fc0c@aol.com>

 
Joe Laurinaitis, better known as "The Animal" of pro wrestling fame, the  
surviving half of his sport's most fabled tag team, the Road Warriors/Legion of  
Doom, did the dOSU player introductions in full makeup and with the usual WWE  
theatrics.  His son James is star LB for dOSU, but should ESPN, a neutral  
reporter have given such a biased, indeed idiotic, and classless  platform to 
this clown (apologies to clowns everywhere).  



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From jleonard518 at yahoo.com  Sat Sep 22 19:38:21 2007
From: jleonard518 at yahoo.com (Jim Leonard)
Date: Sat Sep 22 19:32:29 2007
Subject: [NU Sports] ESPN b.s.?
Message-ID: <833130.55326.qm@web36805.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

I'm not so sure that I care if they are 'neutral' especially since I carry such a bias against them and their Disney-ness. But, beyond the issue of neutrality, it was classless and stupid. 

Victory & Honor,
Jim


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Subject: [NU Sports] ESPN bias?


Joe Laurinaitis, better known as "The Animal" of pro wrestling fame, the  
surviving half of his sport's most fabled tag team, the Road Warriors/Legion of  
Doom, did the dOSU player introductions in full makeup and with the usual WWE  
theatrics.  His son James is star LB for dOSU, but should ESPN, a neutral  
reporter have given such a biased, indeed idiotic, and classless  platform to 
this clown (apologies to clowns everywhere).  



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From nolan at romaine.tssi.com  Sat Sep 22 20:14:12 2007
From: nolan at romaine.tssi.com (Mike Nolan)
Date: Sat Sep 22 20:14:16 2007
Subject: [NU Sports] ESPN bias?
Message-ID: <200709230114.l8N1ECCH021487@romaine.tssi.com>

The ESPN player intros are insipid and an embarassment to the school, but 
then most of the other ways of introducing the players have gotten shopworn.
--
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From MHRJGScott at aol.com  Sat Sep 22 21:05:29 2007
From: MHRJGScott at aol.com (MHRJGScott@aol.com)
Date: Sat Sep 22 21:03:23 2007
Subject: [NU Sports] ESPN bias?
Message-ID: <c93.14ecea16.342723e9@aol.com>

Well I was insulted by the big intro of their players and not of  ours.  I 
had no idea who this guy was so I looked him up, I guess an  education comes in 
handy sometimes.  I do not know much about the WWE  except for Hulk Hogan and 
the guy who killed his family, but I do not think it  is appropriate to give 
this kind of exposure to a phony sport when dOSU comes on  an hour later with a 
commercial about their commitment to academic and moral  excellence.



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From johnl at mac.com  Sat Sep 22 22:55:27 2007
From: johnl at mac.com (John Labbe)
Date: Sat Sep 22 22:49:37 2007
Subject: [NU Sports] ESPN bias?
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I thought it was bs just because there was never a similar introduction 
of the NU players.   At one point, they said that Michael Wilbom was 
going to do an intro of the NU defense, but it never materialized.  It 
didn't help that our first two defensive outings were very short, but 
just the same, it wasn't a neutral broadcast in that respect.


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> Well I was insulted by the big intro of their players and not of  
> ours.  I
> had no idea who this guy was so I looked him up, I guess an  education 
> comes in
> handy sometimes.  I do not know much about the WWE  except for Hulk 
> Hogan and
> the guy who killed his family, but I do not think it  is appropriate 
> to give
> this kind of exposure to a phony sport when dOSU comes on  an hour 
> later with a
> commercial about their commitment to academic and moral  excellence.
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From tbng at comcast.net  Sun Sep 23 06:00:02 2007
From: tbng at comcast.net (Dennis W. Brandt)
Date: Sun Sep 23 05:54:58 2007
Subject: [NU Sports] Who cares about bias?
References: <200709230114.l8N1ECCH021487@romaine.tssi.com>
Message-ID: <003101c7fdd0$e436f3e0$c402a8c0@DennisMachine>

Yes, Laurinaitis the Road Bore-yer was a joke.  All of pro wrestling is a joke.  Yes, it is dangerous.  So is Jackass.  Yet it draws huge audiences even though the industry admits they script everything.  ESPN doesn't have to lend it credibility.

No one mentioned the game.  Perhaps that is because there was no game.  There was Thermopylae with wimpy Spartans; Pickett in need of a charge.  We were unqualified to be on the same field as Ohio State.  Speed and quickness they have; we don't.  Size and strength they have; we don't.  Athleticism they have; we don't.  Depth they have; we don't.  It doesn't matter who is making the in-game coaching decisions.  As I posted earlier this week, recruiting charts show it's not going to change in the near future.  Tyrell Sutton's absence was no factor even if he had been upbeat along the sidelines.  (You were hang-dogging it, Tyrell.)  This was a disgraceful but likely inevitable performance that points out the inadequate talent on the NU football team (as if Duke, losers yesterday to Navy and allowing 46 points, hadn't done that already).  I fully expect the same treatment next week.  Hart will run for 200+ yards in less than three quarters, and whoever plays quarterback will humiliate our defense.  We will be lucky to score one offensive touchdown against Michigan's first-string defense.  Again, I would dearly love to be wrong, but I don't think I will be.

RECRUITING!!!!  RECRUITING!!!!  RECRUITING!!!!  But do we even have a chance at the best players with our ancient, rarely filled stadium, losing tradition, and academic requirements?

On an unrelated note, how 'bout them Wofford Terriers!  More reason to doubt the quality of Big 10 football.

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From artmiller1 at hotmail.com  Sun Sep 23 07:16:46 2007
From: artmiller1 at hotmail.com (Arthur Miller)
Date: Sun Sep 23 07:10:39 2007
Subject: [NU Sports] Who cares about bias?
In-Reply-To: <003101c7fdd0$e436f3e0$c402a8c0@DennisMachine>
Message-ID: <BAY106-DAV2B1379CC7BFBCF80E43228AB50@phx.gbl>

Rants are boring, Dennis--and too easy after a day like yesterday.  So what
is your proposal?  Drop out of the Big Ten?  Throw more money into trying to
build a competitive program in the face of so many inherent disadvantages?

And what does Wofford have to do with the Big Ten?  Did they play a Big Ten
team yesterday?  Don't apply the Law of Transitivity; that doesn't work in
football.

Those watching the telecast yesterday heard the comment that the Buckeye
football team's annual budget exceeds the that of the entire NU athletic
department.  As if to reinforce the point, yesterday Ohio State announced a
raise for Thad Matta, so they are now paying their BASKETBALL coach $2.5M a
year.  Personally, I am starting to despair that we can ever be consistently
competitive in this conference.  Money is everything in this game, people,
and frankly we just don't have the numbers.




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Behalf Of Dennis W. Brandt
Sent: Sunday, September 23, 2007 6:00 AM
To: nwu-sports@romaine.tssi.com
Subject: [NU Sports] Who cares about bias?


No one mentioned the game.  Perhaps that is because there was no game.
There was Thermopylae with wimpy Spartans; Pickett in need of a charge.  We
were unqualified to be on the same field as Ohio State.  Speed and quickness
they have; we don't.  Size and strength they have; we don't.  Athleticism
they have; we don't.  Depth they have; we don't.  It doesn't matter who is
making the in-game coaching decisions.  As I posted earlier this week,
recruiting charts show it's not going to change in the near future.  Tyrell
Sutton's absence was no factor even if he had been upbeat along the
sidelines.  (You were hang-dogging it, Tyrell.)  This was a disgraceful but
likely inevitable performance that points out the inadequate talent on the
NU football team (as if Duke, losers yesterday to Navy and allowing 46
points, hadn't done that already).  I fully expect the same treatment next
week.  Hart will run for 200+ yards in less than three quarters, and whoever
plays quarterback will humiliate our defense.  We will be lucky to score one
offensive touchdown against Michigan's first-string defense.  Again, I would
dearly love to be wrong, but I don't think I will be.

RECRUITING!!!!  RECRUITING!!!!  RECRUITING!!!!  But do we even have a chance
at the best players with our ancient, rarely filled stadium, losing
tradition, and academic requirements?

On an unrelated note, how 'bout them Wofford Terriers!  More reason to doubt
the quality of Big 10 football.


From MHRJGScott at aol.com  Sun Sep 23 08:13:36 2007
From: MHRJGScott at aol.com (MHRJGScott@aol.com)
Date: Sun Sep 23 08:11:30 2007
Subject: [NU Sports] Who cares about bias?
Message-ID: <be0.1eb6be3a.3427c080@aol.com>

 
In a message dated 9/23/2007 8:17:14 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time,  
artmiller1@hotmail.com writes:

Money is  everything in this game, people,
and frankly we just don't have the  numbers


Oh yes we have the scratch, the faculty and  administration does not have the 
itch. That's why I quit giving except to  athletics 4 years ago.
 
 
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From tbng at comcast.net  Sun Sep 23 08:35:19 2007
From: tbng at comcast.net (Dennis W. Brandt)
Date: Sun Sep 23 08:30:15 2007
Subject: [NU Sports] Who cares about bias?
References: <BAY106-DAV2B1379CC7BFBCF80E43228AB50@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <000701c7fde6$95ae9320$c402a8c0@DennisMachine>

A frequent definition of rant:  I can't debate you, so I'll shoot the 
messenger.  Bang!  I'm not dead.

I "ranted" because we were utterly outmatched in every facet of the game, 
which should no longer be the case.  For twelve years we have had hopes that 
yesterday would have been consigned to far distant "yesterdays," yet here we 
are again.  Being a Big 10 football doormat is no longer acceptable to 
Northwestern football fans, and our football team has streaks of mud and 
cleat marks all over it today.  I very much fear we could be slipping back 
into those pathetic days of Mildcat-ism.

Funny how you hammered my argument and then made my case.  I agree with you. 
Either do the job correctly or get out.  Back-sliding cannot be permitted. 
If NU wants to play with the big boys, then it has to do what it must to 
compete.  I am not for dropping academic standards into the tank, but if it 
means bringing in a few on-the-bubble students and shepherding them through 
academically, then do it.  If we will not or cannot compete, save the money, 
play with the littler boys, and be content with it.  That hasn't exactly 
hurt Harvard and Yale.  But for God's sake quit humiliating Northwestern 
University with performances such as we saw yesterday.

No, Wofford did not play a Big Ten team yesterday.  Had you read the sports 
pages you would have seen that Wofford defeated Appalachian State.  Remember 
Appalachian State?  I believe they defeated Michigan, a pre-season pick to 
win the Big Ten and still in the running for that honor.  If Wofford can 
beat the team that beat Michigan, what does that say about Big Ten football?

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From: "Arthur Miller" <artmiller1@hotmail.com>
To: "'Dennis W. Brandt'" <tbng@comcast.net>; <nwu-sports@romaine.tssi.com>
Sent: Sunday, September 23, 2007 8:16 AM
Subject: RE: [NU Sports] Who cares about bias?


Rants are boring, Dennis--and too easy after a day like yesterday.  So what
is your proposal?  Drop out of the Big Ten?  Throw more money into trying to
build a competitive program in the face of so many inherent disadvantages?

And what does Wofford have to do with the Big Ten?  Did they play a Big Ten
team yesterday?  Don't apply the Law of Transitivity; that doesn't work in
football.

Those watching the telecast yesterday heard the comment that the Buckeye
football team's annual budget exceeds the that of the entire NU athletic
department.  As if to reinforce the point, yesterday Ohio State announced a
raise for Thad Matta, so they are now paying their BASKETBALL coach $2.5M a
year.  Personally, I am starting to despair that we can ever be consistently
competitive in this conference.  Money is everything in this game, people,
and frankly we just don't have the numbers.




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From: nwu-sports-bounces@tssi.com [mailto:nwu-sports-bounces@tssi.com] On
Behalf Of Dennis W. Brandt
Sent: Sunday, September 23, 2007 6:00 AM
To: nwu-sports@romaine.tssi.com
Subject: [NU Sports] Who cares about bias?


No one mentioned the game.  Perhaps that is because there was no game.
There was Thermopylae with wimpy Spartans; Pickett in need of a charge.  We
were unqualified to be on the same field as Ohio State.  Speed and quickness
they have; we don't.  Size and strength they have; we don't.  Athleticism
they have; we don't.  Depth they have; we don't.  It doesn't matter who is
making the in-game coaching decisions.  As I posted earlier this week,
recruiting charts show it's not going to change in the near future.  Tyrell
Sutton's absence was no factor even if he had been upbeat along the
sidelines.  (You were hang-dogging it, Tyrell.)  This was a disgraceful but
likely inevitable performance that points out the inadequate talent on the
NU football team (as if Duke, losers yesterday to Navy and allowing 46
points, hadn't done that already).  I fully expect the same treatment next
week.  Hart will run for 200+ yards in less than three quarters, and whoever
plays quarterback will humiliate our defense.  We will be lucky to score one
offensive touchdown against Michigan's first-string defense.  Again, I would
dearly love to be wrong, but I don't think I will be.

RECRUITING!!!!  RECRUITING!!!!  RECRUITING!!!!  But do we even have a chance
at the best players with our ancient, rarely filled stadium, losing
tradition, and academic requirements?

On an unrelated note, how 'bout them Wofford Terriers!  More reason to doubt
the quality of Big 10 football.


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From Hakirsch at aol.com  Sun Sep 23 11:27:07 2007
From: Hakirsch at aol.com (Hakirsch@aol.com)
Date: Sun Sep 23 11:22:14 2007
Subject: [NU Sports] Who cares about bias?
Message-ID: <c3f.1d64cdc5.3427eddb@aol.com>

In a message dated 9/23/2007 6:36:57 AM Pacific Daylight Time, 
tbng@comcast.net writes:

> , but if it 
> means bringing in a few on-the-bubble students and shepherding them through 
> academically, then do it. 

I suspect we do this already--and I am ok with it--If we can get an "on the 
bubble"  guy through school with tutors/summer school/etc etc, it is 
acceptable- Not everyone who gets accepted to NU has high academic numbers--NU like all 
top schools look for other top attributes as well --(thankfully)

What  would be un-accaptable, is if we knew there was a high probablity that 
we couldnt get a kid through school and we were just taking  a long shot 
chance on a kid because we knew he had great athletic talent

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From sjtruog at yahoo.com  Sun Sep 23 12:04:33 2007
From: sjtruog at yahoo.com (SjT (Stephen J. Truog))
Date: Sun Sep 23 11:58:40 2007
Subject: [NU Sports] Rants and bias ...
Message-ID: <206651.80661.qm@web52901.mail.re2.yahoo.com>

I dunno ... I guess you need to rant sometimes and
after yesterday seems as good as any. And I don't
really care about bias or who announces our team. I
think it still all boils down to the Duke game - we
win that, as we should have with 500+ yards in
offense, and we're 3-1 now after a tough loss at a
tough place. Instead, we're stinging and 2-2 with a
rejuvenated Michigan next.

I can understand the rant. I hope someone's lighting a
fire under the team and coaches right now as well.

As for what we can do - we will never have the
athletic budget, support or recruits of Ohio State.
I'm glad and proud that NU puts its fund-raising focus
on education instead of these obscene coaching
salaries these days. Though I'm sure if a wealthy NU
alum wanted to pony up a couple million to hire Jimmy
Johnson or Bill Belicheat, the school would gladly
take it. As an educator still paying off NU loans
myself, it won't be coming from me!:) I give NGN what
I can and buy my season tickets even though I'm in
Arizona, but that's about all I can do. And that's
fine - personally, I'd rather have a state-of-the-art
lab or media facility on campus anyway.

As for the players, we've been over this before. NU
does get marginal recruits sometime, but we really
can't go any further, nor would I want the school to.
Besides, unless we were paying kids under the table or
something, most world-class athletes are going to want
to head to OSU or LSU instead of NU.

But the point is that we have won three Big Ten titles
in recent history and none of these were factors in
those championships. Did we have a roster of five star
recruits in 1995, 1996 or 2000? Nope. Did we have a
coach making millions that we lured away from the NFL
and was branded a genius? No. Did we have full
stadiums the year before those titles or even the
first half of those years? No.

We had teams that believed in each other, played as a
team, cut down on mistakes and (95/96 defense and 00
offense) used coaching innovation to outthink our
opponents.

That's what we can focus on now. Fitz has Barnett's
optimism and our renewed focus on special teams is
refreshing (A return TD? NICE! Touchbacks? GREAT!).
But I'm not sure the players have bought in yet. That
should change once the team becomes more Fitz' in the
coming years.

What we can change immediately though are the mistakes
- penalties and turnovers have doomed us the past two
games - and coaching innovation. Our spread doesn't
even spread out the field anymore - Big Ten defenses
have adjusted and know the flat pass laterally or draw
is coming. We need to rejuvenate our play calling and
look for some areas to exploit. We have a good crop of
receivers, a good back (when healthy) and an
experienced quarterback. We should be able to move the
ball better.

We'll see what kind of improvement we get next week.
Ohio Stadium is the most intimidating environment in
the Big Ten and with us coming in moping from last
week still, we got our butts kicked early and often.
Now we get Big Bad Blue ... we need to truly run the
spread to exploit the weaknesses AppState and Oregon
did against their defense. And on D, make the kid
throw. He has great receivers, but we can't let Hart
run all over us.

Northwestern will always be different from schools
like Ohio State - not a bad thing, but it doesn't mean
we can't compete either. And yesterday we just never
believed we had a chance.

GO CATS!!!
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From mlinhardt at netzero.net  Sun Sep 23 12:17:32 2007
From: mlinhardt at netzero.net (mlinhardt@netzero.net)
Date: Sun Sep 23 12:13:54 2007
Subject: [NU Sports] Rants and bias ...
Message-ID: <20070923.121732.13759.1@webmail15.dca.untd.com>

I have the game on tape in case anyone wants a copy ;-(

Yuck.

I think our season has been a disappointment so far.  Even the Northeastern game I came out feeling like we played poorly.

So far the bright spot is special teams, although it took a hit with the poor punting(including the block).

Whatever happens next week vs. Michigan is not relevant.  Our season starts the last 7 game as they are all winnable -- yes even Pur-don't.

Did anyone notice how much the turf affected our guys.  I saw Bacher and other slip multiple times, yet the dOSU players seemed to be fine.  This is something that needs to be deal with in the walkthrough, possibly getting different spikes.
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From Hakirsch at aol.com  Sun Sep 23 12:28:23 2007
From: Hakirsch at aol.com (Hakirsch@aol.com)
Date: Sun Sep 23 12:23:30 2007
Subject: [NU Sports] Rants and bias ...
Message-ID: <d01.1afb1957.3427fc37@aol.com>

The announcers made the point about slippage on the first TD--not sure if 
it's cleats or unfamliar feeling afoot

I saw most of the other BT games  yesterday- on the tube- (couldnt get 
Wisc/Iowa though on the West Coast)and I believe outside of Mich, we could beat 
anyone ,though every one of them could beat us as well--as all of the  BT teams 
seem to show bouts of both weakenss and brilliance--at this point I am 
predicting 2-6 in conf.

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From michael.vance at att.net  Sun Sep 23 13:22:31 2007
From: michael.vance at att.net (Michael Vance)
Date: Sun Sep 23 13:17:12 2007
Subject: [NU Sports] Who cares about bias?
In-Reply-To: <003101c7fdd0$e436f3e0$c402a8c0@DennisMachine>
References: <200709230114.l8N1ECCH021487@romaine.tssi.com>
	<003101c7fdd0$e436f3e0$c402a8c0@DennisMachine>
Message-ID: <46F6AEE7.60604@att.net>

In direct answer to your subject line, Dennis, I care.  ESPN's bias 
towards dOSU manifested itself in more than just the Laurinaitis intro.  
That intro would have been fine (I actually would've been embarrassed by 
it if I were an OSU fan, but then again, amybe if I was an OSU fan, I'd 
also be more inclined to be a rasslin' fan), had they managed to find 
someone to do one for NU.  But to have a live intro, and one so 
completely over the top, followed by an N-Cat logo and the announcer was 
unacceptable.  If you're going to be an impartial broadcaster, you have 
to treat the teams equally.

But as I said, it was more than that.  The announcing tandem was 
completely unfamiliar with the NU personnel.  One of kept pronouncing 
CJ's last name "Boo-shay", and called Kevin Mims "Calvin." And they put 
Kadela at defensive end.  Announcers butchering players' names is almost 
a tradition, but getting his position wrong is just being unprepared.

-Michael

Dennis W. Brandt wrote:
> Yes, Laurinaitis the Road Bore-yer was a joke.  All of pro wrestling is a joke.  Yes, it is dangerous.  So is Jackass.  Yet it draws huge audiences even though the industry admits they script everything.  ESPN doesn't have to lend it credibility.
>
> No one mentioned the game.  Perhaps that is because there was no game.  There was Thermopylae with wimpy Spartans; Pickett in need of a charge.  We were unqualified to be on the same field as Ohio State.  Speed and quickness they have; we don't.  Size and strength they have; we don't.  Athleticism they have; we don't.  Depth they have; we don't.  It doesn't matter who is making the in-game coaching decisions.  As I posted earlier this week, recruiting charts show it's not going to change in the near future.  Tyrell Sutton's absence was no factor even if he had been upbeat along the sidelines.  (You were hang-dogging it, Tyrell.)  This was a disgraceful but likely inevitable performance that points out the inadequate talent on the NU football team (as if Duke, losers yesterday to Navy and allowing 46 points, hadn't done that already).  I fully expect the same treatment next week.  Hart will run for 200+ yards in less than three quarters, and whoever plays quarterback will humiliate our defense.  We will be lucky to score one offensive touchdown against Michigan's first-string defense.  Again, I would dearly love to be wrong, but I don't think I will be.
>
> RECRUITING!!!!  RECRUITING!!!!  RECRUITING!!!!  But do we even have a chance at the best players with our ancient, rarely filled stadium, losing tradition, and academic requirements?
>
> On an unrelated note, how 'bout them Wofford Terriers!  More reason to doubt the quality of Big 10 football.
>
>   


From nolan at romaine.tssi.com  Sun Sep 23 13:22:32 2007
From: nolan at romaine.tssi.com (Mike Nolan)
Date: Sun Sep 23 13:22:36 2007
Subject: [NU Sports] Rants and bias ... (fwd)
Message-ID: <200709231822.l8NIMWuW002540@romaine.tssi.com>

> I saw most of the other BT games  yesterday- on the tube- (couldnt get 
> Wisc/Iowa though on the West Coast)and I believe outside of Mich, we could beat 
> anyone ,though every one of them could beat us as well--as all of the  BT teams 
> seem to show bouts of both weakenss and brilliance--at this point I am 
> predicting 2-6 in conf.

I DID watch most of the Iowa-Wisconsin game, it seemed like a contest of
which team wanted to lose the least rather than which team wanted to
win the most.  I was not surprised to see the Badgers drop 2 slots in the
coaches poll (from 7th to 9th.)  Their upcoming game against Michigan State 
may show if they're really Top 10 material or not.

I think the last 3 games on the schedule are winnable this year if the team
doesn't collapse after taking what is likely to be another whupping from
Michigan, which will NOT be looking past Northwestern.

The MSU, Minnesota and Purdue games may all be winnable, too, but will take
some serious jelling, especially on a defense that looks to be porous even
by Northwestern standards.  :-(
--
Mike Nolan

From sjtruog at yahoo.com  Sun Sep 23 14:59:57 2007
From: sjtruog at yahoo.com (SjT (Stephen J. Truog))
Date: Sun Sep 23 14:54:05 2007
Subject: [NU Sports] Around the league (was: Rants and bias ...)
In-Reply-To: <d01.1afb1957.3427fc37@aol.com>
Message-ID: <129767.96296.qm@web52905.mail.re2.yahoo.com>

> I saw most of the other BT games  yesterday- on the
> tube- (couldnt get 
> Wisc/Iowa though on the West Coast)and I believe
> outside of Mich, we could beat 
> anyone ,though every one of them could beat us as

Exactly. I agree that our season really starts in the
final seven games. We should be 3-2, but will likely
be 2-3, meaning four is a must, but five wins are
probably necessary.

Can we do that? Absolutely. The best team on the
Oct/Nov slate is likely Purdue, but their defense is
pretty porous and we could hang with them if our
offense plays well and defense tightens up. Minny and
EMU are gotta wins, Illinois, Indiana, Iowa and MSU
are all could wins and Purdooo a maybe ... but we have
to stop the turnovers, penalties and
inconsistent/uninspired play.

As for a trip around the league yesterday ...

* PSU just has to be heartbroken (no pun intended).
Their D, despite being on the field most of the game,
played amazing and well enough to win. But blasted
turnovers early (for the first TD) and some
questionable play calling kept them from the W and
allowed Mike Hart to will Michigan to victory. With
OSU, Wisky and Purdue all visiting Happy Valley, I
still like the Nits to go 11-1 and get into the BCS,
but they really need to get over the Michigan mental
block and this was the year to do it.

* WISCONSIN has been flirting with disaster lately and
sooner or later will get burned. Somehow, lowly Iowa
got a player two steps behind the Badger secondary on
fourth and forever at the end of the game but the pass
was a hair too long. Iowa's young and will be tough by
the end of the season, but will lose some games they
should win, too (like the last two weeks). As for UW,
they're 4-0 right now, but unimpressive.

* OHIO STATE is probably the most impressive team so
far in the league with a solid D and improving O. They
can coast for awhile, but that game at PSU will be a
huge test to see if they're legit.

* ILLINOIS was inconsistent, but showed a lot of
potential. If they cut down the turnovers, they're 4-0
right now and could give PSU fits next week.

* PURDUE was impressive on O as expected, but their D
really disappointed me in allowing Minny to hang in
the game. As I said, it's lucky for them that only
teams east of Toledo seem to be able to play defense
in the league this year, but they gotta improve on
that.

* MSU is 4-0, but are games against ND and the Big
East really proving much these days? We'll see with
Wisky coming into Spartan Stadium. But unlike a lot of
teams, they seem to be maximizing the talent they have
now with minimal mistakes and smart coaching.

And how appropriate was it to see the Irish fans
waving white flags yesterday? Hopefully Purdue can
complete the Big Ten sweep next week and make the
Irish remember why they don't want to join our league
again.:) Bet they're glad they negotiated that bogus
B(C)S payout for years they don't make the bowl scene
... too bad there isn't a clause in there for no money
if they aren't even bowl eligible.

Right now, I'd have OSU/PSU and Wisky still fighting
it out for the Big Ten title. Michigan is dangerous
and will be a factor, but really they shouldn't have
won that game yesterday aside for Hart's heart and
PSU's mental block against big M. I think two of them
get BCS bids and one heads to Orlando. But with PSU
slipping up again at Michigan and OSU and UW visiting
Beaver Stadium, I doubt we'll have an unbeaten champ
this year. Probably at least a two-team tie at the
top.

Michigan probably heads to Tampa now unless they slip
up somewhere besides UW/OSU at the end (maybe MSU?)
and that leaves Purdue for the Alamo. All five are
bowl locks.

The rest of the picture is a mess. MSU, Illinois and
Iowa seem likely to be headed for the postseason,
while Indiana and NU still have a shot if they get
their acts together. Minny is the longest of
longshots.

So let's hope for improvement next week (maybe even
steal a game if Michigan's still celebrating PSU) and
then come out firing for the final two months.

GO CATS!!!
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From christopher_bailey at yahoo.com  Sun Sep 23 15:26:01 2007
From: christopher_bailey at yahoo.com (Christopher Bailey)
Date: Sun Sep 23 15:20:07 2007
Subject: [NU Sports] Re: Who cares about bias?
Message-ID: <428785.39701.qm@web60325.mail.yahoo.com>

I'm not going to disagree with any of this, but rather make a suggestion:  

Follow my lead, something I learned from my father years ago, and put the television on with the sound down, then listen to WGN (in my case, online).

No, it doesn't solve the problem for non-Northwestern fans tuning into a game, but it saves me from getting an ulcer.

Let's hope play next week doesn't give me one either.

GO 'CATS!

Christopher Bailey
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----- Original Message ----
From: Michael Vance <michael.vance@att.net>
Subject: Re: [NU Sports] Who cares about bias?

<snip>

But to have a live intro, and one so 
completely over the top, followed by an N-Cat logo and the announcer was 
unacceptable.  If you're going to be an impartial broadcaster, you have 
to treat the teams equally.

But as I said, it was more than that.  The announcing tandem was 
completely unfamiliar with the NU personnel.  One of kept pronouncing 
CJ's last name "Boo-shay", and called Kevin Mims "Calvin." And they put 
Kadela at defensive end.  Announcers butchering players' names is almost 
a tradition, but getting his position wrong is just being unprepared.





From rstetson at capps-assoc.com  Sun Sep 23 17:10:56 2007
From: rstetson at capps-assoc.com (Roy Lamberton)
Date: Sun Sep 23 17:04:58 2007
Subject: [NU Sports] ESPN bias?
In-Reply-To: <f2b43fe77a8da85c53d6c88acc9cc9d9@mac.com>
References: <c93.14ecea16.342723e9@aol.com>
	<f2b43fe77a8da85c53d6c88acc9cc9d9@mac.com>
Message-ID: <000301c7fe2e$9def39c0$d9cdad40$@com>

Wilbon probably saw the rehearsal and decided that he wasn't that big a "clown."
?????

rsl

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> From: nwu-sports-bounces@tssi.com [mailto:nwu-sports-bounces@tssi.com] On
> Behalf Of John Labbe
> Sent: Saturday, September 22, 2007 11:55 PM
> To: 'nwu-sports@romaine.tssi.com'
> Subject: Re: [NU Sports] ESPN bias?
> 
> I thought it was bs just because there was never a similar introduction
> of the NU players.   At one point, they said that Michael Wilbom was
> going to do an intro of the NU defense, but it never materialized.  It
> didn't help that our first two defensive outings were very short, but
> just the same, it wasn't a neutral broadcast in that respect.
> 
> 
> On Sep 22, 2007, at 9:05 PM, MHRJGScott@aol.com wrote:
> 
> > Well I was insulted by the big intro of their players and not of
> > ours.  I
> > had no idea who this guy was so I looked him up, I guess an  education
> > comes in
> > handy sometimes.  I do not know much about the WWE  except for Hulk
> > Hogan and
> > the guy who killed his family, but I do not think it  is appropriate
> > to give
> > this kind of exposure to a phony sport when dOSU comes on  an hour
> > later with a
> > commercial about their commitment to academic and moral  excellence.
> >
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From rstetson at capps-assoc.com  Sun Sep 23 17:15:38 2007
From: rstetson at capps-assoc.com (Roy Lamberton)
Date: Sun Sep 23 17:09:41 2007
Subject: [NU Sports] Sorry I missed the debacle
Message-ID: <000401c7fe2f$45dedd20$d19c9760$@com>

I was driving to Maryland to see my new Grandson - Edward James Lamberton II -
burn at 2:35 yesterday afternoon

However, I listened to Duke vs Navy - Navy did finally prevail, but the Dookies
came out throwing and scored long passing TDs on their first two plays from
scrimmage.

Navy Escaped because they played better ball control offense, and had their D
step up in the 2nd half. BTW - the Navy announcers were griping about the ACC
refs flagging the Middies.

rsl

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From tbng at comcast.net  Sun Sep 23 18:24:05 2007
From: tbng at comcast.net (Dennis W. Brandt)
Date: Sun Sep 23 18:18:59 2007
Subject: [NU Sports] Winning tradition
Message-ID: <000801c7fe38$d59e6620$c402a8c0@DennisMachine>

<Did we have a roster of five star recruits in 1995, 1996 or 2000? Nope. . .  We had teams that believed in each other, played as a team, cut down on mistakes and (95/96 defense and 00 offense) used coaching innovation to outthink our opponents.

But that won't cut it in the long run.  Sooner or later if you're going to be good consistently, you have to have the talent.  I don't want to slip back into the marshmallows-in-the-tubas era, which looks to be on the horizon.  I want to get better, not worse.  Perhaps the coaching staff can squeeze more out of our talent, but ultimately - CLICHE ALERT! - you can't squeeze blood out of a turnip.



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From NEONRye at aol.com  Sun Sep 23 19:02:08 2007
From: NEONRye at aol.com (NEONRye@aol.com)
Date: Sun Sep 23 18:57:21 2007
Subject: [NU Sports] Sorry I missed the debacle
Message-ID: <c8a.118f15c0.34285880@aol.com>

I missed the disaster, too. I was in synagogue for Yom Kippur.  Never  has 
this "tradition" been so welcome.:-)  And this is 30 years after I went  to 
Dyche Stadium the afternoon of Yom Kippur to see 'Cats rout Minny (or maybe  it 
was Illini) by something like 48-0, after attending services at Cahn  
Auditorium.  The irony is inescapable.  
 
I have OSU game on tape, but I have no interest now in watching it.   Why 
double the pain?!!
 
Fitz is now in a position of having to rally the troops.  If we play  well, 
and with pride and poise against UM, then the season can still reach a  
successful conclusion, but if we get routed again, then I fear the snowball  effect 
will be severe.
 
Paul



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From eschoeman at sbcglobal.net  Sun Sep 23 19:13:12 2007
From: eschoeman at sbcglobal.net (Evans Schoeman)
Date: Sun Sep 23 19:07:18 2007
Subject: [NU Sports] Texas Tech Fires DC
In-Reply-To: <c8a.118f15c0.34285880@aol.com>
Message-ID: <009601c7fe3f$b28b8030$220110ac@OFFICEDESKTOP2>

After losing 49-45 to Oklahoma State yesterday, Texas Tech coach Mike Leach
called the result "unacceptable" and fired his Defensive Coordinator this
morning.

So, you don't have to wait until after the season to do it.


From WildElk2 at aol.com  Sun Sep 23 19:49:05 2007
From: WildElk2 at aol.com (WildElk2@aol.com)
Date: Sun Sep 23 19:46:58 2007
Subject: [NU Sports] OUCH
Message-ID: <cdb.18bcf2d9.34286381@aol.com>

What has been such a bummer has been the play on both  sides of the line.  I 
know that we may be a tad slower than the OSU's of  the world, but I expected 
drastic improvement on our defensive line, and the  ability to control the 
clock on offense.  While the offensive line has  (before Saturday) given an "OK" 
grade, the DL has been a constant letdown.
   We get no pressure. We blitz to help. Robiske feasts on Battle  and 
McPhearson 1 on 1. We know these 2 guys won't make their way to Canton, and  there 
they are guarding OSU receivers 1 on 1.
   Now we take on Michigan, which has yielded 9 points in 2  games.  The 
spread won't be such a mystery after App. St. and Oregon.
   However,  one similarity may be this: Michigan was  shocked by App. St.; 
looked Maized and confused for the next game, then got over  it.  NU was 
shocked by Duke, was in a purple haze at the Shoe; now it's  time we get over it.
   It looks like Sutton and Simpson will be back for next week.  McManis was 
banged up, but the Daily-Herald and Sun Times didn't report it was  serious, 
so at least we didn't take a hit on our depth.  
   I think we all recognize that we are not a first division ball  club. But 
I see a lot of our last 7 games being tight, tedious affairs, as I'm  
steadfast in believing that save Purdue, 6 games could be had.  We circled  the wagons 
in 2003 and 2004 and dug in for a bunch of good wins.  Even if  we go 2-4, we 
beat Minnesota (I've said from the beginning of the season they  are 
terrible) and E. Michigan, we have Iowa, Indiana , Purdue and  Illinois.  Still hope 
this season.
 
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From jeff.beamsley at hilgraeve.com  Sun Sep 23 20:02:02 2007
From: jeff.beamsley at hilgraeve.com (Jeff Beamsley)
Date: Sun Sep 23 19:56:55 2007
Subject: [NU Sports] Around the league (was: Rants and bias ...)
In-Reply-To: <129767.96296.qm@web52905.mail.re2.yahoo.com>
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I watched the Michigan/PSU game and the Iowa/Wisky game.

We don't play PSU or Wisky.  The only one that I think we have a chance
against is Iowa and only because they are teetering on the edge of not having
enough players to really field a team.  A few more injuries and they will be
playing mainly true and red shirted freshmen, but we also play them late in
the season so those freshmen will have more game experience than they did
against Wisky when they wilted down the stretch.

Michigan isn't going to look past us.  They've already made that mistake and
won't make it again.  They are on a mission to win out in the BT.  That's all
they have to salvage their season.  The big difference in Michigan between
the first two games and the last two games is that their defense found a
second gear.  We've already seen how our offense deals with a high pressure
defense.  The only possibility to keep the game close is if Henne doesn't
play again, Mallet has a bad game, and we get some points on turnovers.
Right now that seems to be a long shot.

What bothers me most about the OSU game is something I've complained about in
the past.  It's the "deer in the headlights" look of the whole team.  They
weren't ready and they knew they weren't ready.  Rather than flying around as
if they had nothing to lose, they played scared.  NU was a 22 point dog, what
did we have to lose?  Youngstown State and Akron who don't have nearly the
same caliber athletes as NU, were better prepared to give OSU a game than we
were.

IMHO, you have to hang this one on the coaching staff, not on the kids.

Hopefully the coaches will get it together for next week and convince our
kids that they belong on the same field with Michigan.  

Jeff

-----Original Message-----
From: nwu-sports-bounces@tssi.com [mailto:nwu-sports-bounces@tssi.com] On
Behalf Of SjT (Stephen J. Truog)
Sent: Sunday, September 23, 2007 4:00 PM
To: nwu-sports@tssi.com
Subject: [NU Sports] Around the league (was: Rants and bias ...)

> I saw most of the other BT games  yesterday- on the
> tube- (couldnt get
> Wisc/Iowa though on the West Coast)and I believe outside of Mich, we 
> could beat anyone ,though every one of them could beat us as

Exactly. I agree that our season really starts in the final seven games. We
should be 3-2, but will likely be 2-3, meaning four is a must, but five wins
are probably necessary.

Can we do that? Absolutely. The best team on the Oct/Nov slate is likely
Purdue, but their defense is pretty porous and we could hang with them if our
offense plays well and defense tightens up. Minny and EMU are gotta wins,
Illinois, Indiana, Iowa and MSU are all could wins and Purdooo a maybe ...
but we have to stop the turnovers, penalties and inconsistent/uninspired
play.

As for a trip around the league yesterday ...

* PSU just has to be heartbroken (no pun intended).
Their D, despite being on the field most of the game, played amazing and well
enough to win. But blasted turnovers early (for the first TD) and some
questionable play calling kept them from the W and allowed Mike Hart to will
Michigan to victory. With OSU, Wisky and Purdue all visiting Happy Valley, I
still like the Nits to go 11-1 and get into the BCS, but they really need to
get over the Michigan mental block and this was the year to do it.

* WISCONSIN has been flirting with disaster lately and sooner or later will
get burned. Somehow, lowly Iowa got a player two steps behind the Badger
secondary on fourth and forever at the end of the game but the pass was a
hair too long. Iowa's young and will be tough by the end of the season, but
will lose some games they should win, too (like the last two weeks). As for
UW, they're 4-0 right now, but unimpressive.

* OHIO STATE is probably the most impressive team so far in the league with a
solid D and improving O. They can coast for awhile, but that game at PSU will
be a huge test to see if they're legit.

* ILLINOIS was inconsistent, but showed a lot of potential. If they cut down
the turnovers, they're 4-0 right now and could give PSU fits next week.

* PURDUE was impressive on O as expected, but their D really disappointed me
in allowing Minny to hang in the game. As I said, it's lucky for them that
only teams east of Toledo seem to be able to play defense in the league this
year, but they gotta improve on that.

* MSU is 4-0, but are games against ND and the Big East really proving much
these days? We'll see with Wisky coming into Spartan Stadium. But unlike a
lot of teams, they seem to be maximizing the talent they have now with
minimal mistakes and smart coaching.

And how appropriate was it to see the Irish fans waving white flags
yesterday? Hopefully Purdue can complete the Big Ten sweep next week and make
the Irish remember why they don't want to join our league
again.:) Bet they're glad they negotiated that bogus B(C)S payout for years
they don't make the bowl scene ... too bad there isn't a clause in there for
no money if they aren't even bowl eligible.

Right now, I'd have OSU/PSU and Wisky still fighting it out for the Big Ten
title. Michigan is dangerous and will be a factor, but really they shouldn't
have won that game yesterday aside for Hart's heart and PSU's mental block
against big M. I think two of them get BCS bids and one heads to Orlando. But
with PSU slipping up again at Michigan and OSU and UW visiting Beaver
Stadium, I doubt we'll have an unbeaten champ this year. Probably at least a
two-team tie at the top.

Michigan probably heads to Tampa now unless they slip up somewhere besides
UW/OSU at the end (maybe MSU?) and that leaves Purdue for the Alamo. All five
are bowl locks.

The rest of the picture is a mess. MSU, Illinois and Iowa seem likely to be
headed for the postseason, while Indiana and NU still have a shot if they get
their acts together. Minny is the longest of longshots.

So let's hope for improvement next week (maybe even steal a game if
Michigan's still celebrating PSU) and then come out firing for the final two
months.

GO CATS!!!
-SjT

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From CHerron604 at aol.com  Sun Sep 23 20:31:15 2007
From: CHerron604 at aol.com (CHerron604@aol.com)
Date: Sun Sep 23 20:26:25 2007
Subject: [NU Sports] Around the league (was: Rants and bias ...)
Message-ID: <c35.1de28538.34286d63@aol.com>

It is very hard to conclude anything other than the fact that we have a  
pathetic coaching staff.  It is truly criminal that at least three of them  still 
have jobs.  They are:
 
- Asst Coach (and D-backs) Jerry Brown
- OC Garrick McGee
- DC Greg Colby

These three men have shown themselves to be total incompetents - and  our 
hiring any of them has shown that we have not exercised good judgement in  hiring.

- Brown was an awful DC, dumped as DC and 'kicked upstairs' to  handle 
D-backs, because apparently the best man to handle the secondary is a man  who 
couldn't handle the defense.
 
- McGee was an undistinguished WR coach at 'perennial powerhouse'  UNLV, then 
the same here before he was elevated to OC after the unexplained  departure 
of Mike Dunbar.  Dunbar was a proven OC who designed a pretty  good offense.  
McGee had shown no prior ability to coordinate a Big  Ten offense, and has 
shown none here.  Why did we name an OC with NO  experience coordinating an 
offense ?
 
- Colby's resume is pathetic.  4 years as the DC at Kent resulted in  over 33 
points a game and almost 400 yards a game, mostly against 'powerhouse'  MAC 
teams.  So who decided he had the talent to coordinate a Big Ten  defense ?  
One that regularly faces Michigan and Ohio State - not  Eastern Michigan and 
Ohio U.
 
Our horrific hiring and promotion over the last few years has left us with  a 
coaching staff that most Division II schools would be ashamed of.  But we  
keep bringing them back, year after year after year.
 
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From jeff.beamsley at hilgraeve.com  Sun Sep 23 21:41:59 2007
From: jeff.beamsley at hilgraeve.com (Jeff Beamsley)
Date: Sun Sep 23 21:36:43 2007
Subject: Better recruits and better coaching (was [NU Sports] Who cares about
	bias?)
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When you sell out big football stadiums, you can afford to spend a lot of
money on the program.

As we all know, though, money doesn't buy you happiness.

In the case of NU, happiness comes from recruiting the kids who don't want to
go to OSU.  OSU is going for the kids with the stars after their names on the
rating charts.  NU is going for the kids with the "stars" after their names
on the academic charts.  When we find them, NU has the recruiting advantage.


Fortunately football is a team sport and we've seen NU put teams of "no name"
kids on the field that can win because they believe in the program and they
believe in each other.  That means good coaches and good recruiting.  

As best as we've been able to figure in past years, NU has been willing to
pay at least RW a competitive salary, but I suspect that Fitz is probably the
lowest paid coach in the BT right now.  That is likely going to make it more
difficult to attract "star quality" assistants because their salary to some
degree is set by what you are paying the HC.

I also suspect the current problem with attracting "star quality" coaching is
that Fitz is so young and inexperienced, and at the same time also coach for
life.  Assistants with ambition have two ways to advance, either they move up
when the head coach leaves, or they move out when they have demonstrated
success at their current job.  Fitz isn't going to be fired any time soon, so
NU isn't going to attract guys ready to make the next step to HC.  But it
appears that it is those sorts of guys that Fitz really needs right now.

Fitz also hasn't demonstrated, yet, that he knows how to win.  So any new
coaching blood is really going to have to be convinced that Fitz is the guy
that can get them to the next level.  He doesn't have the network or the
track record that RW did when he came here, so he doesn't have many of those
"experienced" hands to call on either.  So Fitz's only options are to work
with what he has, or look to take bigger chances with unproven assistants who
are willing to take a chance on him.  The former strategy doesn't appear to
be working.  It will be interesting if we start to see some evidence of the
later strategy.

Jeff


-----Original Message-----
From: nwu-sports-bounces@tssi.com [mailto:nwu-sports-bounces@tssi.com] On
Behalf Of Arthur Miller
Sent: Sunday, September 23, 2007 8:17 AM
To: 'Dennis W. Brandt'; nwu-sports@romaine.tssi.com
Subject: RE: [NU Sports] Who cares about bias?

Rants are boring, Dennis--and too easy after a day like yesterday.  So what
is your proposal?  Drop out of the Big Ten?  Throw more money into trying to
build a competitive program in the face of so many inherent disadvantages?

And what does Wofford have to do with the Big Ten?  Did they play a Big Ten
team yesterday?  Don't apply the Law of Transitivity; that doesn't work in
football.

Those watching the telecast yesterday heard the comment that the Buckeye
football team's annual budget exceeds the that of the entire NU athletic
department.  As if to reinforce the point, yesterday Ohio State announced a
raise for Thad Matta, so they are now paying their BASKETBALL coach $2.5M a
year.  Personally, I am starting to despair that we can ever be consistently
competitive in this conference.  Money is everything in this game, people,
and frankly we just don't have the numbers.




-----Original Message-----
From: nwu-sports-bounces@tssi.com [mailto:nwu-sports-bounces@tssi.com] On
Behalf Of Dennis W. Brandt
Sent: Sunday, September 23, 2007 6:00 AM
To: nwu-sports@romaine.tssi.com
Subject: [NU Sports] Who cares about bias?


No one mentioned the game.  Perhaps that is because there was no game.
There was Thermopylae with wimpy Spartans; Pickett in need of a charge.  We
were unqualified to be on the same field as Ohio State.  Speed and quickness
they have; we don't.  Size and strength they have; we don't.  Athleticism
they have; we don't.  Depth they have; we don't.  It doesn't matter who is
making the in-game coaching decisions.  As I posted earlier this week,
recruiting charts show it's not going to change in the near future.  Tyrell
Sutton's absence was no factor even if he had been upbeat along the
sidelines.  (You were hang-dogging it, Tyrell.)  This was a disgraceful but
likely inevitable performance that points out the inadequate talent on the NU
football team (as if Duke, losers yesterday to Navy and allowing 46 points,
hadn't done that already).  I fully expect the same treatment next week.
Hart will run for 200+ yards in less than three quarters, and whoever plays
quarterback will humiliate our defense.  We will be lucky to score one
offensive touchdown against Michigan's first-string defense.  Again, I would
dearly love to be wrong, but I don't think I will be.

RECRUITING!!!!  RECRUITING!!!!  RECRUITING!!!!  But do we even have a chance
at the best players with our ancient, rarely filled stadium, losing
tradition, and academic requirements?

On an unrelated note, how 'bout them Wofford Terriers!  More reason to doubt
the quality of Big 10 football.


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From nolan at romaine.tssi.com  Sun Sep 23 22:45:00 2007
From: nolan at romaine.tssi.com (Mike Nolan)
Date: Sun Sep 23 22:45:04 2007
Subject: [NU Sports] Texas Tech Fires DC (fwd)
Message-ID: <200709240345.l8O3j00d005301@romaine.tssi.com>

> After losing 49-45 to Oklahoma State yesterday, Texas Tech coach Mike Leach
> called the result "unacceptable" and fired his Defensive Coordinator this
> morning.
> 
> So, you don't have to wait until after the season to do it.

Yeah, but about the only time a coach makes such a drastic move like 
that mid-season is when he's concerned about his own neck being on the
chopping block before the end of the season.  Among other things, it 
leaves the school a coach short during a key part of the recruiting season, 
because they aren't likely to add someone to the coaching staff mid-season 
(and anyone they find probably has to be unemployed at the moment, so 
the pickings are likely to be slim.)

Fitz's job is secure for a few years, so I wouldn't expect any
desperation measures.
--
Mike Nolan

From johnadeg at comcast.net  Mon Sep 24 06:54:39 2007
From: johnadeg at comcast.net (johnadeg@comcast.net)
Date: Mon Sep 24 06:49:09 2007
Subject: [NU Sports] Rants and bias ...
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Note that Navy beat Duke which jut adds to the absurdity of losing to Duke.

John DeGroat
 -------------- Original message ----------------------
From: "SjT (Stephen J. Truog)" <sjtruog@yahoo.com>
> I dunno ... I guess you need to rant sometimes and
> after yesterday seems as good as any. And I don't
> really care about bias or who announces our team. I
> think it still all boils down to the Duke game - we
> win that, as we should have with 500+ yards in
> offense, and we're 3-1 now after a tough loss at a
> tough place. Instead, we're stinging and 2-2 with a
> rejuvenated Michigan next.
> 
> I can understand the rant. I hope someone's lighting a
> fire under the team and coaches right now as well.
> 
> As for what we can do - we will never have the
> athletic budget, support or recruits of Ohio State.
> I'm glad and proud that NU puts its fund-raising focus
> on education instead of these obscene coaching
> salaries these days. Though I'm sure if a wealthy NU
> alum wanted to pony up a couple million to hire Jimmy
> Johnson or Bill Belicheat, the school would gladly
> take it. As an educator still paying off NU loans
> myself, it won't be coming from me!:) I give NGN what
> I can and buy my season tickets even though I'm in
> Arizona, but that's about all I can do. And that's
> fine - personally, I'd rather have a state-of-the-art
> lab or media facility on campus anyway.
> 
> As for the players, we've been over this before. NU
> does get marginal recruits sometime, but we really
> can't go any further, nor would I want the school to.
> Besides, unless we were paying kids under the table or
> something, most world-class athletes are going to want
> to head to OSU or LSU instead of NU.
> 
> But the point is that we have won three Big Ten titles
> in recent history and none of these were factors in
> those championships. Did we have a roster of five star
> recruits in 1995, 1996 or 2000? Nope. Did we have a
> coach making millions that we lured away from the NFL
> and was branded a genius? No. Did we have full
> stadiums the year before those titles or even the
> first half of those years? No.
> 
> We had teams that believed in each other, played as a
> team, cut down on mistakes and (95/96 defense and 00
> offense) used coaching innovation to outthink our
> opponents.
> 
> That's what we can focus on now. Fitz has Barnett's
> optimism and our renewed focus on special teams is
> refreshing (A return TD? NICE! Touchbacks? GREAT!).
> But I'm not sure the players have bought in yet. That
> should change once the team becomes more Fitz' in the
> coming years.
> 
> What we can change immediately though are the mistakes
> - penalties and turnovers have doomed us the past two
> games - and coaching innovation. Our spread doesn't
> even spread out the field anymore - Big Ten defenses
> have adjusted and know the flat pass laterally or draw
> is coming. We need to rejuvenate our play calling and
> look for some areas to exploit. We have a good crop of
> receivers, a good back (when healthy) and an
> experienced quarterback. We should be able to move the
> ball better.
> 
> We'll see what kind of improvement we get next week.
> Ohio Stadium is the most intimidating environment in
> the Big Ten and with us coming in moping from last
> week still, we got our butts kicked early and often.
> Now we get Big Bad Blue ... we need to truly run the
> spread to exploit the weaknesses AppState and Oregon
> did against their defense. And on D, make the kid
> throw. He has great receivers, but we can't let Hart
> run all over us.
> 
> Northwestern will always be different from schools
> like Ohio State - not a bad thing, but it doesn't mean
> we can't compete either. And yesterday we just never
> believed we had a chance.
> 
> GO CATS!!!
> -SjT
> 
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From rstetson at capps-assoc.com  Mon Sep 24 06:59:09 2007
From: rstetson at capps-assoc.com (Roy Lamberton)
Date: Mon Sep 24 06:53:03 2007
Subject: [NU Sports] Around the league (was: Rants and bias ...)
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I don't think anyone "looks past" Northwestern any more.

Gary Barnet and Randy Walker created that atmosphere by beating dOSU, Michigan,
Iowa, Wisconsin and others. We may be responsible for the improvement at other
Big 10 schools - after all - in the minds of the alumni -, if Northwestern can
do it, why can't they.

Anyway, as I always tell my coaches - nobody said it was going to be easy.

rsl
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: nwu-sports-bounces@tssi.com [mailto:nwu-sports-bounces@tssi.com] On
> Behalf Of Jeff Beamsley
> Sent: Sunday, September 23, 2007 9:02 PM
> To: SjT (Stephen J. Truog); nwu-sports@tssi.com
> Subject: RE: [NU Sports] Around the league (was: Rants and bias ...)
> 
> I watched the Michigan/PSU game and the Iowa/Wisky game.
> 
> We don't play PSU or Wisky.  The only one that I think we have a chance
> against is Iowa and only because they are teetering on the edge of not
> having
> enough players to really field a team.  A few more injuries and they will
> be
> playing mainly true and red shirted freshmen, but we also play them late in
> the season so those freshmen will have more game experience than they did
> against Wisky when they wilted down the stretch.
> 
> Michigan isn't going to look past us.  They've already made that mistake
> and
> won't make it again.  They are on a mission to win out in the BT.  That's
> all
> they have to salvage their season.  The big difference in Michigan between
> the first two games and the last two games is that their defense found a
> second gear.  We've already seen how our offense deals with a high pressure
> defense.  The only possibility to keep the game close is if Henne doesn't
> play again, Mallet has a bad game, and we get some points on turnovers.
> Right now that seems to be a long shot.
> 
> What bothers me most about the OSU game is something I've complained about
> in
> the past.  It's the "deer in the headlights" look of the whole team.  They
> weren't ready and they knew they weren't ready.  Rather than flying around
> as
> if they had nothing to lose, they played scared.  NU was a 22 point dog,
> what
> did we have to lose?  Youngstown State and Akron who don't have nearly the
> same caliber athletes as NU, were better prepared to give OSU a game than
> we
> were.
> 
> IMHO, you have to hang this one on the coaching staff, not on the kids.
> 
> Hopefully the coaches will get it together for next week and convince our
> kids that they belong on the same field with Michigan.
> 
> Jeff
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: nwu-sports-bounces@tssi.com [mailto:nwu-sports-bounces@tssi.com] On
> Behalf Of SjT (Stephen J. Truog)
> Sent: Sunday, September 23, 2007 4:00 PM
> To: nwu-sports@tssi.com
> Subject: [NU Sports] Around the league (was: Rants and bias ...)
> 
> > I saw most of the other BT games  yesterday- on the
> > tube- (couldnt get
> > Wisc/Iowa though on the West Coast)and I believe outside of Mich, we
> > could beat anyone ,though every one of them could beat us as
> 
> Exactly. I agree that our season really starts in the final seven games. We
> should be 3-2, but will likely be 2-3, meaning four is a must, but five
> wins
> are probably necessary.
> 
> Can we do that? Absolutely. The best team on the Oct/Nov slate is likely
> Purdue, but their defense is pretty porous and we could hang with them if
> our
> offense plays well and defense tightens up. Minny and EMU are gotta wins,
> Illinois, Indiana, Iowa and MSU are all could wins and Purdooo a maybe ...
> but we have to stop the turnovers, penalties and inconsistent/uninspired
> play.
> 
> As for a trip around the league yesterday ...
> 
> * PSU just has to be heartbroken (no pun intended).
> Their D, despite being on the field most of the game, played amazing and
> well
> enough to win. But blasted turnovers early (for the first TD) and some
> questionable play calling kept them from the W and allowed Mike Hart to
> will
> Michigan to victory. With OSU, Wisky and Purdue all visiting Happy Valley,
> I
> still like the Nits to go 11-1 and get into the BCS, but they really need
> to
> get over the Michigan mental block and this was the year to do it.
> 
> * WISCONSIN has been flirting with disaster lately and sooner or later will
> get burned. Somehow, lowly Iowa got a player two steps behind the Badger
> secondary on fourth and forever at the end of the game but the pass was a
> hair too long. Iowa's young and will be tough by the end of the season, but
> will lose some games they should win, too (like the last two weeks). As for
> UW, they're 4-0 right now, but unimpressive.
> 
> * OHIO STATE is probably the most impressive team so far in the league with
> a
> solid D and improving O. They can coast for awhile, but that game at PSU
> will
> be a huge test to see if they're legit.
> 
> * ILLINOIS was inconsistent, but showed a lot of potential. If they cut
> down
> the turnovers, they're 4-0 right now and could give PSU fits next week.
> 
> * PURDUE was impressive on O as expected, but their D really disappointed
> me
> in allowing Minny to hang in the game. As I said, it's lucky for them that
> only teams east of Toledo seem to be able to play defense in the league
> this
> year, but they gotta improve on that.
> 
> * MSU is 4-0, but are games against ND and the Big East really proving much
> these days? We'll see with Wisky coming into Spartan Stadium. But unlike a
> lot of teams, they seem to be maximizing the talent they have now with
> minimal mistakes and smart coaching.
> 
> And how appropriate was it to see the Irish fans waving white flags
> yesterday? Hopefully Purdue can complete the Big Ten sweep next week and
> make
> the Irish remember why they don't want to join our league
> again.:) Bet they're glad they negotiated that bogus B(C)S payout for years
> they don't make the bowl scene ... too bad there isn't a clause in there
> for
> no money if they aren't even bowl eligible.
> 
> Right now, I'd have OSU/PSU and Wisky still fighting it out for the Big Ten
> title. Michigan is dangerous and will be a factor, but really they
> shouldn't
> have won that game yesterday aside for Hart's heart and PSU's mental block
> against big M. I think two of them get BCS bids and one heads to Orlando.
> But
> with PSU slipping up again at Michigan and OSU and UW visiting Beaver
> Stadium, I doubt we'll have an unbeaten champ this year. Probably at least
> a
> two-team tie at the top.
> 
> Michigan probably heads to Tampa now unless they slip up somewhere besides
> UW/OSU at the end (maybe MSU?) and that leaves Purdue for the Alamo. All
> five
> are bowl locks.
> 
> The rest of the picture is a mess. MSU, Illinois and Iowa seem likely to be
> headed for the postseason, while Indiana and NU still have a shot if they
> get
> their acts together. Minny is the longest of longshots.
> 
> So let's hope for improvement next week (maybe even steal a game if
> Michigan's still celebrating PSU) and then come out firing for the final
> two
> months.
> 
> GO CATS!!!
> -SjT
> 
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From johnadeg at comcast.net  Mon Sep 24 06:59:28 2007
From: johnadeg at comcast.net (johnadeg@comcast.net)
Date: Mon Sep 24 06:53:57 2007
Subject: [NU Sports] Who cares about bias?
Message-ID: <092420071159.11562.46F7A6A000006AB200002D2A2216525856090A0B0E02080106@comcast.net>

The announcers were desperate to keep their audience since it was obvious early in th first quarter that the game was gong to be a huge blowout.

John DeGroat
 -------------- Original message ----------------------
From: Michael Vance <michael.vance@att.net>
> In direct answer to your subject line, Dennis, I care.  ESPN's bias 
> towards dOSU manifested itself in more than just the Laurinaitis intro.  
> That intro would have been fine (I actually would've been embarrassed by 
> it if I were an OSU fan, but then again, amybe if I was an OSU fan, I'd 
> also be more inclined to be a rasslin' fan), had they managed to find 
> someone to do one for NU.  But to have a live intro, and one so 
> completely over the top, followed by an N-Cat logo and the announcer was 
> unacceptable.  If you're going to be an impartial broadcaster, you have 
> to treat the teams equally.
> 
> But as I said, it was more than that.  The announcing tandem was 
> completely unfamiliar with the NU personnel.  One of kept pronouncing 
> CJ's last name "Boo-shay", and called Kevin Mims "Calvin." And they put 
> Kadela at defensive end.  Announcers butchering players' names is almost 
> a tradition, but getting his position wrong is just being unprepared.
> 
> -Michael
> 
> Dennis W. Brandt wrote:
> > Yes, Laurinaitis the Road Bore-yer was a joke.  All of pro wrestling is a 
> joke.  Yes, it is dangerous.  So is Jackass.  Yet it draws huge audiences even 
> though the industry admits they script everything.  ESPN doesn't have to lend it 
> credibility.
> >
> > No one mentioned the game.  Perhaps that is because there was no game.  There 
> was Thermopylae with wimpy Spartans; Pickett in need of a charge.  We were 
> unqualified to be on the same field as Ohio State.  Speed and quickness they 
> have; we don't.  Size and strength they have; we don't.  Athleticism they have; 
> we don't.  Depth they have; we don't.  It doesn't matter who is making the 
> in-game coaching decisions.  As I posted earlier this week, recruiting charts 
> show it's not going to change in the near future.  Tyrell Sutton's absence was 
> no factor even if he had been upbeat along the sidelines.  (You were 
> hang-dogging it, Tyrell.)  This was a disgraceful but likely inevitable 
> performance that points out the inadequate talent on the NU football team (as if 
> Duke, losers yesterday to Navy and allowing 46 points, hadn't done that 
> already).  I fully expect the same treatment next week.  Hart will run for 200+ 
> yards in less than three quarters, and whoever plays quarterback will h!
>  umiliate our defense.  We will be lucky to score one offensive touchdown 
> against Michigan's first-string defense.  Again, I would dearly love to be 
> wrong, but I don't think I will be.
> >
> > RECRUITING!!!!  RECRUITING!!!!  RECRUITING!!!!  But do we even have a chance 
> at the best players with our ancient, rarely filled stadium, losing tradition, 
> and academic requirements?
> >
> > On an unrelated note, how 'bout them Wofford Terriers!  More reason to doubt 
> the quality of Big 10 football.
> >
> >   
> 
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From rstetson at capps-assoc.com  Mon Sep 24 07:09:19 2007
From: rstetson at capps-assoc.com (Roy Lamberton)
Date: Mon Sep 24 07:03:00 2007
Subject: [NU Sports] Rants and bias ...
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Duke gave Navy quite a game on the road Saturday. I happened to be listening to
the first half and the Navy announcers were somewhat upset at half time because
Duke was up 10 Points. 

Duke picked Navy's defense apart, and the only thing the middies could do was
match them TD for TD [which they did], using their spread option to move the
football.

Duke had only run 2 plays and it was 12-3 [they missed the PATs]. They used
almost the same offense they used against us, lots of play action, and
tremendous reads by the QB - Duke's going to surprise a couple of teams in ACC
play this year [my only prediction]

rsl

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> 
> Note that Navy beat Duke which jut adds to the absurdity of losing to Duke.

From mlinhardt at netzero.net  Mon Sep 24 07:10:02 2007
From: mlinhardt at netzero.net (mlinhardt@netzero.net)
Date: Mon Sep 24 07:06:13 2007
Subject: Better recruits and better coaching (was [NU Sports] Who cares abo
	ut bias?)
Message-ID: <20070924.071002.14453.4@webmail07.dca.untd.com>

The ideal scenario for a young inexperienced head coach is strong coordinators.  

Fitz has plenty to deal with without having to be a control freak in regards to offense and defense.  He needs to sell the program to recruits, media, and most especially the big dollar alumni.  He is the face of Northwestern football and for him that is a full-time job.

Unfortunately McGhee is almost as green as Fitz and although Colby is a veteran I don't believe he is regarded as "the answer" or if he is then it is a very silly question.

If we can find an older, retired DC that is big on fundamentals and get a 2-3 year committment where he an mentor some young guy into that position it would be perfect.

The recruiting is going in the right direction, which makes me confident for the future.  Rumors floated that many IL HS coaches did not like RW and whether true or not we must be accessible to all HS coaches that have intelligent good citizens who play quality football.

-- "Jeff Beamsley" <jeff.beamsley@hilgraeve.com> wrote:
<snip>
As best as we've been able to figure in past years, NU has been willing to pay at least RW a competitive salary, but I suspect that Fitz is probably the lowest paid coach in the BT right now.  That is likely going to make it more difficult to attract "star quality" assistants because their salary to some degree is set by what you are paying the HC.

I also suspect the current problem with attracting "star quality" coaching is that Fitz is so young and inexperienced, and at the same time also coach for life.  Assistants with ambition have two ways to advance, either they move up when the head coach leaves, or they move out when they have demonstrated success at their current job.  Fitz isn't going to be fired any time soon, so NU isn't going to attract guys ready to make the next step to HC.  But it appears that it is those sorts of guys that Fitz really needs right now.

Fitz also hasn't demonstrated, yet, that he knows how to win.  So any new coaching blood is really going to have to be convinced that Fitz is the guy that can get them to the next level.  He doesn't have the network or the track record that RW did when he came here, so he doesn't have many of those "experienced" hands to call on either.  So Fitz's only options are to work with what he has, or look to take bigger chances with unproven assistants who are willing to take a chance on him.  The former strategy doesn't appear to be working.  It will be interesting if we start to see some evidence of the later strategy.

Jeff

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From johnadeg at comcast.net  Mon Sep 24 07:15:06 2007
From: johnadeg at comcast.net (johnadeg@comcast.net)
Date: Mon Sep 24 07:09:37 2007
Subject: [NU Sports] Around the league (was: Rants and bias ...)
Message-ID: <092420071215.26754.46F7AA4A00015CE3000068822216525856090A0B0E02080106@comcast.net>

Brown is still around because he played for NU and avoids EEO issues.  Dunbar left allegedly to be closer to his family in California, but now he is back at another Big Ten school, Minnesota I think.  He eithr didn't want to work for Fitzgerald or else he knew the pantry was  empty. 
John DeGroat
 -------------- Original message ----------------------
From: CHerron604@aol.com
> It is very hard to conclude anything other than the fact that we have a  
> pathetic coaching staff.  It is truly criminal that at least three of them  
> still 
> have jobs.  They are:
>  
> - Asst Coach (and D-backs) Jerry Brown
> - OC Garrick McGee
> - DC Greg Colby
> 
> These three men have shown themselves to be total incompetents - and  our 
> hiring any of them has shown that we have not exercised good judgement in  
> hiring.
> 
> - Brown was an awful DC, dumped as DC and 'kicked upstairs' to  handle 
> D-backs, because apparently the best man to handle the secondary is a man  who 
> couldn't handle the defense.
>  
> - McGee was an undistinguished WR coach at 'perennial powerhouse'  UNLV, then 
> the same here before he was elevated to OC after the unexplained  departure 
> of Mike Dunbar.  Dunbar was a proven OC who designed a pretty  good offense.  
> McGee had shown no prior ability to coordinate a Big  Ten offense, and has 
> shown none here.  Why did we name an OC with NO  experience coordinating an 
> offense ?
>  
> - Colby's resume is pathetic.  4 years as the DC at Kent resulted in  over 33 
> points a game and almost 400 yards a game, mostly against 'powerhouse'  MAC 
> teams.  So who decided he had the talent to coordinate a Big Ten  defense ?  
> One that regularly faces Michigan and Ohio State - not  Eastern Michigan and 
> Ohio U.
>  
> Our horrific hiring and promotion over the last few years has left us with  a 
> coaching staff that most Division II schools would be ashamed of.  But we  
> keep bringing them back, year after year after year.
>  
> Chuck Herron   Tech '85
> 
> 
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From johnadeg at comcast.net  Mon Sep 24 07:21:25 2007
From: johnadeg at comcast.net (johnadeg@comcast.net)
Date: Mon Sep 24 07:15:57 2007
Subject: Better recruits and better coaching (was [NU Sports] Who cares
	about bias?)
Message-ID: <092420071221.17366.46F7ABC5000D182A000043D62216525856090A0B0E02080106@comcast.net>

NU can't peg the salaries of assistant coaches to what Fitz is earning.  NU will have to pay them more than he is making, but so what.  I knew of a number of situations in the corporate world where people were making more than their bosses.  

John DeGroat
 -------------- Original message ----------------------
From: "Jeff Beamsley" <jeff.beamsley@hilgraeve.com>
> When you sell out big football stadiums, you can afford to spend a lot of
> money on the program.
> 
> As we all know, though, money doesn't buy you happiness.
> 
> In the case of NU, happiness comes from recruiting the kids who don't want to
> go to OSU.  OSU is going for the kids with the stars after their names on the
> rating charts.  NU is going for the kids with the "stars" after their names
> on the academic charts.  When we find them, NU has the recruiting advantage.
> 
> 
> Fortunately football is a team sport and we've seen NU put teams of "no name"
> kids on the field that can win because they believe in the program and they
> believe in each other.  That means good coaches and good recruiting.  
> 
> As best as we've been able to figure in past years, NU has been willing to
> pay at least RW a competitive salary, but I suspect that Fitz is probably the
> lowest paid coach in the BT right now.  That is likely going to make it more
> difficult to attract "star quality" assistants because their salary to some
> degree is set by what you are paying the HC.
> 
> I also suspect the current problem with attracting "star quality" coaching is
> that Fitz is so young and inexperienced, and at the same time also coach for
> life.  Assistants with ambition have two ways to advance, either they move up
> when the head coach leaves, or they move out when they have demonstrated
> success at their current job.  Fitz isn't going to be fired any time soon, so
> NU isn't going to attract guys ready to make the next step to HC.  But it
> appears that it is those sorts of guys that Fitz really needs right now.
> 
> Fitz also hasn't demonstrated, yet, that he knows how to win.  So any new
> coaching blood is really going to have to be convinced that Fitz is the guy
> that can get them to the next level.  He doesn't have the network or the
> track record that RW did when he came here, so he doesn't have many of those
> "experienced" hands to call on either.  So Fitz's only options are to work
> with what he has, or look to take bigger chances with unproven assistants who
> are willing to take a chance on him.  The former strategy doesn't appear to
> be working.  It will be interesting if we start to see some evidence of the
> later strategy.
> 
> Jeff
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: nwu-sports-bounces@tssi.com [mailto:nwu-sports-bounces@tssi.com] On
> Behalf Of Arthur Miller
> Sent: Sunday, September 23, 2007 8:17 AM
> To: 'Dennis W. Brandt'; nwu-sports@romaine.tssi.com
> Subject: RE: [NU Sports] Who cares about bias?
> 
> Rants are boring, Dennis--and too easy after a day like yesterday.  So what
> is your proposal?  Drop out of the Big Ten?  Throw more money into trying to
> build a competitive program in the face of so many inherent disadvantages?
> 
> And what does Wofford have to do with the Big Ten?  Did they play a Big Ten
> team yesterday?  Don't apply the Law of Transitivity; that doesn't work in
> football.
> 
> Those watching the telecast yesterday heard the comment that the Buckeye
> football team's annual budget exceeds the that of the entire NU athletic
> department.  As if to reinforce the point, yesterday Ohio State announced a
> raise for Thad Matta, so they are now paying their BASKETBALL coach $2.5M a
> year.  Personally, I am starting to despair that we can ever be consistently
> competitive in this conference.  Money is everything in this game, people,
> and frankly we just don't have the numbers.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: nwu-sports-bounces@tssi.com [mailto:nwu-sports-bounces@tssi.com] On
> Behalf Of Dennis W. Brandt
> Sent: Sunday, September 23, 2007 6:00 AM
> To: nwu-sports@romaine.tssi.com
> Subject: [NU Sports] Who cares about bias?
> 
> 
> No one mentioned the game.  Perhaps that is because there was no game.
> There was Thermopylae with wimpy Spartans; Pickett in need of a charge.  We
> were unqualified to be on the same field as Ohio State.  Speed and quickness
> they have; we don't.  Size and strength they have; we don't.  Athleticism
> they have; we don't.  Depth they have; we don't.  It doesn't matter who is
> making the in-game coaching decisions.  As I posted earlier this week,
> recruiting charts show it's not going to change in the near future.  Tyrell
> Sutton's absence was no factor even if he had been upbeat along the
> sidelines.  (You were hang-dogging it, Tyrell.)  This was a disgraceful but
> likely inevitable performance that points out the inadequate talent on the NU
> football team (as if Duke, losers yesterday to Navy and allowing 46 points,
> hadn't done that already).  I fully expect the same treatment next week.
> Hart will run for 200+ yards in less than three quarters, and whoever plays
> quarterback will humiliate our defense.  We will be lucky to score one
> offensive touchdown against Michigan's first-string defense.  Again, I would
> dearly love to be wrong, but I don't think I will be.
> 
> RECRUITING!!!!  RECRUITING!!!!  RECRUITING!!!!  But do we even have a chance
> at the best players with our ancient, rarely filled stadium, losing
> tradition, and academic requirements?
> 
> On an unrelated note, how 'bout them Wofford Terriers!  More reason to doubt
> the quality of Big 10 football.
> 
> 
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From tbng at comcast.net  Mon Sep 24 07:24:50 2007
From: tbng at comcast.net (Dennis W. Brandt)
Date: Mon Sep 24 07:19:33 2007
Subject: Better recruits and better coaching (was [NU Sports] Who cares
	aboutbias?)
References: <003101c7fdd0$e436f3e0$c402a8c0@DennisMachine><000201c7fddb$9c674ff0$0401a8c0@Sauron>
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Message-ID: <000901c7fea5$e7277450$c402a8c0@DennisMachine>

> When you sell out big football stadiums, you can afford to spend a lot of
> money on the program.
>
Problem is, you don't sell out stadiums with poor football teams.  Catch 22. 
A new, on-campus stadium might be - CLICHE ALERT - just what the doctor 
ordered.

> As we all know, though, money doesn't buy you happiness.

You get a fifteen-word penalty for use of an unforewarned cliche.  You have 
to spend money to make money.  (OK, I'll edit out fifteen words, too.)
>
> In the case of NU, happiness comes from recruiting the kids who don't want 
> to
> go to OSU.  OSU is going for the kids with the stars after their names on 
> the
> rating charts.  NU is going for the kids with the "stars" after their 
> names
> on the academic charts.  When we find them, NU has the recruiting 
> advantage.

And OSU gets the wins.  OSU, as one example of many, is a superior academic 
institution, and their sports facilities dwarf NU's.  The best we can offer 
from a high school kid's perspective is small class size and Chicago.  (The 
latter got me to matriculate.)  NU offers no physical education or 
recreation degrees that draw many academically margainal players.  Do we 
even have a sports management program?
>
> Fortunately football is a team sport and we've seen NU put teams of "no 
> name"
> kids on the field that can win because they believe in the program and 
> they
> believe in each other.  That means good coaches and good recruiting.

1995 was a dream come true.  So was 2000 when we garnered some pretty good 
offensive talent.  But you can't count on doing it often.  Talent is the 
key, which is why in more than three decades we've beaten OSU just once and 
Michigan just three times.  The spread offense has grown whiskers and takes 
few by surprise anymore.  If we brought back Zack, Sam, and the gang back, 
would they score like they did in 2000?  I don't think so.  We have to 
execute it better, and that requires increased physical talent.

> As best as we've been able to figure in past years, NU has been willing to
> pay at least RW a competitive salary, but I suspect that Fitz is probably 
> the
> lowest paid coach in the BT right now.  That is likely going to make it 
> more
> difficult to attract "star quality" assistants because their salary to 
> some
> degree is set by what you are paying the HC.

Good point and another Catch 22.

To those of you crying for new coaches:  Maybe you're right.  There is only 
one way to find out, and cleaning house would be easy to justify.  But I'm 
not convinced Ara Parseghian, Woody Hayes, and Joe Paterno combined could do 
much more with this group.  The "deer in the headlights" appearance to which 
someone else referred can occur due to poor preparation, but it can also 
happen when you're a lightweight and they throw you into the cage with a 
super-heaveyweight.  You slay one Goliath only to realize there are ten more 
of those suckers out there.  If we're going be Davids, we need .44 caliber, 
rapid-fire slingshots.  Right now we have a rubber band and a paper clip.


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From mlinhardt at netzero.net  Mon Sep 24 13:57:10 2007
From: mlinhardt at netzero.net (mlinhardt@netzero.net)
Date: Mon Sep 24 13:53:04 2007
Subject: [NU Sports] Around the league (was: Rants and bias ...)
Message-ID: <20070924.135710.23089.0@webmail17.dca.untd.com>

Dunbar left when RW was still the HC for Cal.  RW promoted McGee 
with the assumption that he was going to be around to bring McGee along to a top level OC (promoted Jan 06 - before RW's death) with HIS knowledge of the offense (since RW really designed it, NOT Wilson and NOT Dunbar).  

I agree, Colby is terrible.  I think the new LB coach should get a shot at DC.  He PROVED himself at his last position as DC by bringing his defense from terrible (110th ish) to decent - 35th ish in 3 seasons.

I think Jerry does a good job as DB coach with the little he has to work with (since DBs are notoriously the "dumbest" position).  I think this year the corners are "worse" than usual because the LBs are the worst they have been in a long time.  
I see the safeties and CBs cheating to help run stop and then are getting burned on the pass play when we generate no pass rush.  

Maureen Linhardt

---------- Forwarded Message ----------
Brown is still around because he played for NU and avoids EEO issues.  Dunbar left 
allegedly to be closer to his family in California, but now he is back at another Big Ten 
school, Minnesota I think.  He eithr didn't want to work for Fitzgerald or else he knew 
the pantry was  empty. 
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From MHRJGScott at aol.com  Mon Sep 24 15:26:01 2007
From: MHRJGScott at aol.com (MHRJGScott@aol.com)
Date: Mon Sep 24 15:24:01 2007
Subject: [NU Sports] More media bias
Message-ID: <d36.13a12b39.34297759@aol.com>

The Chicago tribune has a lot of blogs, including one "Around the bend"  
which is about Notre Dame football.  It is written by an NU alum. Why  doesn't our 
hometown paper have a blog for the Cats?



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From nolan at romaine.tssi.com  Mon Sep 24 15:35:57 2007
From: nolan at romaine.tssi.com (Mike Nolan)
Date: Mon Sep 24 15:36:00 2007
Subject: [NU Sports] More media bias
In-Reply-To: <d36.13a12b39.34297759@aol.com> from "MHRJGScott@aol.com" at Sep
	24, 2007 04:26:01 PM
Message-ID: <200709242035.l8OKZvfs009371@romaine.tssi.com>

> The Chicago tribune has a lot of blogs, including one "Around the bend"  
> which is about Notre Dame football.  It is written by an NU alum. Why  doesn't our 
> hometown paper have a blog for the Cats?

Has anyone offered to write one?
--
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From rstetson at capps-assoc.com  Mon Sep 24 15:58:19 2007
From: rstetson at capps-assoc.com (Roy Lamberton)
Date: Mon Sep 24 15:52:05 2007
Subject: [NU Sports] More media bias
In-Reply-To: <d36.13a12b39.34297759@aol.com>
References: <d36.13a12b39.34297759@aol.com>
Message-ID: <001d01c7feed$a34ec060$e9ec4120$@com>

WNUR has a blog - but its usually about the announcers not the teams and players

The Daily has a blog - but until they start publishing, there won't be anything
new

J. Hodges used to blog, but his stuff is now on Go U Purple with the Waterboy,
sort of equal time?

You can consider many of Adam's things in the Herald kindof a blog - at the
bottom of his stories, he usually has lots of tidbits, etc.

Usually bloggers are guys "in the know" who don't have press credentials -
everyone who hangs at practice these days has credentials so there's no sword to
hang over folks who go to watch, also many of NU's practices have been closed
since Fitz took over. You have to call ahead to get into the area and I'm sure
they're keeping casual observers away from the action.

Personally, I'd rather have a coach's show, but NU Sports now puts the Monday
press conference up for all to see - that's usually the stuff that makes the
coach's show.

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> To: nwu-sports@tssi.com
> Subject: [NU Sports] More media bias
> 
> The Chicago tribune has a lot of blogs, including one "Around the bend"
> which is about Notre Dame football.  It is written by an NU alum. Why
> doesn't our
> hometown paper have a blog for the Cats?
> 
> 
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From sjtruog at yahoo.com  Mon Sep 24 22:46:59 2007
From: sjtruog at yahoo.com (SjT (Stephen J. Truog))
Date: Mon Sep 24 22:41:02 2007
Subject: [NU Sports] PIGSKIN PICKS - Week 5
Message-ID: <424402.60126.qm@web52901.mail.re2.yahoo.com>

Probably won't have standings until fall break at this
point - oh well, not much in a football mood lately
between the Saints and Cats. UGH.

We have a big game in the Big East ... I know, I can't
believe it's not Louisville-WVU either ... on Friday,
so picks will be due by kickoff in Tampa on Friday
night.

PIGSKIN PICKS - WEEK 5
######################
Name: 

BIG TEN
=======
Game  1: Penn State @ Illinois
Winner : 

Game  2: Indiana @ Iowa
Winner : 

Game  3: Michigan State @ Wisconsin
Winner : 

Game  4: Ohio State @ Minnesota
Winner : 

Game  5: Notre Dame @ Purdue
Winner : 

NATIONAL
========
Game  6: Auburn @ Florida
Winner : 

Game  7: Alabama vs. Florida State (@ Jacksonville,
FL)
Winner : 

Game  8: Clemson @ Georgia Tech
Winner : 

Game  9: California @ Oregon
Winner : 

Game 10: West Virginia @ South Florida
Winner : 

MY PICKS
========
* PENN STATE 26, Illinois 21 - Good game, but the Nits
rebound and usually play mobile quarterbacks well,
while the Illini make just enough mistakes to come up
short again.

* IOWA 21, Indiana 14 - So tempted to go with the
upset here, but the Hoosiers played worse than I
expected last week while Iowa played better. Hawks at
home.

* WISCONSIN 34, Michigan State 24 - Good clash here,
and if Sparty wins, they finally make their case for
the top 20, but Wisky's at home and once again finds a
way to keep winning.

* OHIO STATE 56, Minnesota 7 - Why is ESPN grabbing
this night game from the Big Ten Network?

* PURDUE 48, Notre Dame 14 - To see how far the Irish
have fallen, this looks like a sure-fire Saturday
Night national game preseason and now isn't even
picked up by ABC (opting instead for yet another USC
blowout of a mid-level Pac 10 team ... is ABC Saturday
Night now the unofficial USC network?). This one might
be as ugly as the USC game with Purdue's offense, but
the woeful Boiler D keeps it closer.

* FLORIDA 28, Auburn 13 - This might be a trap game at
Jordan-Hare, but not at the Swamp.

* FLORIDA STATE 35, Alabama 31 - The Tide are still
stinging from last week while po' Bobby don't want to
be plum embarassed on national televisioney thingy
again, dag gummit.

* GEORGIA TECH 23, Clemson 20 - The leaves are
starting to turn, which means it's time for yet
another promising Clemson start to fizzle in the wacky
ACC.

* OREGON 47, California 41 - Now someone tell ABC that
*this* is the Pac 10 game that deserves a national
prime-time audience and will bring in the big numbers
this week. This shootout should be fun, and the Ducks
get the win at home.

* WEST VIRGINIA 41, South Florida 21 - Not a believer
in the Mountaineers as MNC contenders, but they are
the class of the Big East still.

And off the board ...

* MICHIGAN 38, Northwestern 17 - Hopefully the Cats
don't come out mopey and shell shocked like last week,
but even if they play well, Mike Hart and Michigan
look to have righted the shop and pull away in the
second half.

Remember, picks in by FRIDAY!

GO CATS!!!
-SjT

* * * * * * * * *
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From bwdolphin146 at yahoo.com  Tue Sep 25 01:12:31 2007
From: bwdolphin146 at yahoo.com (Brad Wilson)
Date: Tue Sep 25 01:06:32 2007
Subject: [NU Sports] a thought
Message-ID: <813215.7739.qm@web51311.mail.re2.yahoo.com>

I have been listening to WGN's archive of the great
games  of the 2000-2005 era to buck myself up after
the last two  debacles, and one things stands out:

The great NU teams ran the ball. Ran it on Wisconsin,
ran it on Michigan, ran it on Ohio State. Ran it down
their throats. 

Sure, Zac and Brett were great QBs and they had
terrific receivers when they did. But that success
came from the ground game.

It seems to me that McGhee has it backward: pass then
run. It needs to be the reverse. I don't know about
Conteh, but Roberson seems like a solid back.
Obviously, Sutton's return would really help, but even
without him, NU has to run the ball better.

This NU team has no prayer of moving the ball in the
Big Ten on those little passes into the flat. NU has
to run the ball: it keeps the defense off the field
(good), sets up the screens and dinky passes and sets
the tempo.

I really think it's just about that simple: run the
damned ball. Spend this week having the OL work on the
run and pound the ball at Michigan.

The great wins of the past came from DA, DA2, Wright,
Herron, Sutton grinding the ball out. Let's get back
to that.

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From rstetson at capps-assoc.com  Tue Sep 25 07:02:20 2007
From: rstetson at capps-assoc.com (Roy Lamberton)
Date: Tue Sep 25 06:56:05 2007
Subject: [NU Sports] a thought
In-Reply-To: <813215.7739.qm@web51311.mail.re2.yahoo.com>
References: <813215.7739.qm@web51311.mail.re2.yahoo.com>
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Even Randy Walker's early spread team ran the ball well.

The Cats had a fairly long string of 1,000+ rushers during his tenure, several
are still running around in the NFL.

There's some kind of a disconnect with that style of offense - maybe it's the
O-line - maybe its that our honored opponents in the Big 10 have figured out how
to stop NU's running game. I know that I'd certainly spy a back like Sutton but
I might have been distracted by Kustok and Baz in earlier years.

My kids always want to know what play I'm going to run first in a game. Its
almost always a 31 or 32 dive - its gets the entire line hitting.

If I was the coach, I'd sure look more closely at my game plan. NU always was
50-50 run-pass. While Ross Lane mentioned that in a recent interview, the Cats
are nowhere near that ratio this year.

rsl

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> From: nwu-sports-bounces@tssi.com [mailto:nwu-sports-bounces@tssi.com] On
> Behalf Of Brad Wilson
> Sent: Tuesday, September 25, 2007 2:13 AM
> To: nu list
> Subject: [NU Sports] a thought
> 
> I have been listening to WGN's archive of the great
> games  of the 2000-2005 era to buck myself up after
> the last two  debacles, and one things stands out:
> 
> The great NU teams ran the ball. Ran it on Wisconsin,
> ran it on Michigan, ran it on Ohio State. Ran it down
> their throats.
> 
> Sure, Zac and Brett were great QBs and they had
> terrific receivers when they did. But that success
> came from the ground game.
> 
> It seems to me that McGhee has it backward: pass then
> run. It needs to be the reverse. I don't know about
> Conteh, but Roberson seems like a solid back.
> Obviously, Sutton's return would really help, but even
> without him, NU has to run the ball better.
> 
> This NU team has no prayer of moving the ball in the
> Big Ten on those little passes into the flat. NU has
> to run the ball: it keeps the defense off the field
> (good), sets up the screens and dinky passes and sets
> the tempo.
> 
> I really think it's just about that simple: run the
> damned ball. Spend this week having the OL work on the
> run and pound the ball at Michigan.
> 
> The great wins of the past came from DA, DA2, Wright,
> Herron, Sutton grinding the ball out. Let's get back
> to that.
> 
> bw
> 
> 
> 
> "Happy are those who see beauty in the modest spots where others see
> nothing." -- Camille Pissaro
> 
> "Quis ipsos custodes custodiet?" -- Juvenal
> 
> 
> 
> ___________________________________________________________________________
> _________
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From johnadeg at comcast.net  Tue Sep 25 10:03:56 2007
From: johnadeg at comcast.net (johnadeg@comcast.net)
Date: Tue Sep 25 09:58:29 2007
Subject: [NU Sports] a thought
Message-ID: <092520071503.9261.46F9235B000F2D000000242D2216549976090A0B0E02080106@comcast.net>

I guess what bothers me is watching the tackling or rather lack thereof.  Fitz was a whiz at it and you would think that he could teach that.  Watching Penn State, when they tackle someone they go down, not so with NU.

John DeGroat
 -------------- Original message ----------------------
From: "Roy Lamberton" <rstetson@capps-assoc.com>
> Even Randy Walker's early spread team ran the ball well.
> 
> The Cats had a fairly long string of 1,000+ rushers during his tenure, several
> are still running around in the NFL.
> 
> There's some kind of a disconnect with that style of offense - maybe it's the
> O-line - maybe its that our honored opponents in the Big 10 have figured out how
> to stop NU's running game. I know that I'd certainly spy a back like Sutton but
> I might have been distracted by Kustok and Baz in earlier years.
> 
> My kids always want to know what play I'm going to run first in a game. Its
> almost always a 31 or 32 dive - its gets the entire line hitting.
> 
> If I was the coach, I'd sure look more closely at my game plan. NU always was
> 50-50 run-pass. While Ross Lane mentioned that in a recent interview, the Cats
> are nowhere near that ratio this year.
> 
> rsl
> 
> ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
> Roy S. Lamberton - Senior Associate
> Computer Applications & Support Associates
> and Publisher of Purple Reign, 
> The Scout.com Northwestern University Site
> (http://www.purplewildcats.com)
> AIM Handle: CoachRoy74
> ======== Go Cats -  Beat 'em All ===========
> "You have a Republic Madam --
>      If you can keep it" - Benjamin Franklin
> ============================================
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: nwu-sports-bounces@tssi.com [mailto:nwu-sports-bounces@tssi.com] On
> > Behalf Of Brad Wilson
> > Sent: Tuesday, September 25, 2007 2:13 AM
> > To: nu list
> > Subject: [NU Sports] a thought
> > 
> > I have been listening to WGN's archive of the great
> > games  of the 2000-2005 era to buck myself up after
> > the last two  debacles, and one things stands out:
> > 
> > The great NU teams ran the ball. Ran it on Wisconsin,
> > ran it on Michigan, ran it on Ohio State. Ran it down
> > their throats.
> > 
> > Sure, Zac and Brett were great QBs and they had
> > terrific receivers when they did. But that success
> > came from the ground game.
> > 
> > It seems to me that McGhee has it backward: pass then
> > run. It needs to be the reverse. I don't know about
> > Conteh, but Roberson seems like a solid back.
> > Obviously, Sutton's return would really help, but even
> > without him, NU has to run the ball better.
> > 
> > This NU team has no prayer of moving the ball in the
> > Big Ten on those little passes into the flat. NU has
> > to run the ball: it keeps the defense off the field
> > (good), sets up the screens and dinky passes and sets
> > the tempo.
> > 
> > I really think it's just about that simple: run the
> > damned ball. Spend this week having the OL work on the
> > run and pound the ball at Michigan.
> > 
> > The great wins of the past came from DA, DA2, Wright,
> > Herron, Sutton grinding the ball out. Let's get back
> > to that.
> > 
> > bw
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > "Happy are those who see beauty in the modest spots where others see
> > nothing." -- Camille Pissaro
> > 
> > "Quis ipsos custodes custodiet?" -- Juvenal
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > ___________________________________________________________________________
> > _________
> > Moody friends. Drama queens. Your life? Nope! - their life, your story.
> > Play Sims Stories at Yahoo! Games.
> > http://sims.yahoo.com/
> > 
> > _______________________________________________
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> > nwu-sports@tssi.com
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> 
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From jeff.beamsley at hilgraeve.com  Tue Sep 25 10:19:15 2007
From: jeff.beamsley at hilgraeve.com (Jeff Beamsley)
Date: Tue Sep 25 10:13:59 2007
Subject: [NU Sports] a thought
In-Reply-To: <092520071503.9261.46F9235B000F2D000000242D2216549976090A0B0E02080106@comcast.net>
References: <092520071503.9261.46F9235B000F2D000000242D2216549976090A0B0E02080106@comcast.net>
Message-ID: <4B7B2D00D59EFB4BAF0FAAE7D5B14E0CDD8776@exchange-prod.hilgraeve.com>

John wrote <snip>
 Watching Penn State, when they tackle someone they go down, not so with NU.

====================

I saw the same thing in the Wisky Iowa game.  Both defenses were so
fundamentally sound that neither team could score and there were only a
couple of first downs for the first 28 minutes or so of the first half.

The Michigan defense had to lose a couple of games before they figured out
how to tackle, but the last two games they also exhibited that same
characteristic.

I think that it also has something to do with scheme and game plan.  When the
players believe in the plan, they are going to play their position and trust
that everyone else is also going to play theirs.  That means that if it is a
good plan, the defensive player will be in position to make a good tackle.
That's when the fundamentals kick in and you see those great take downs. 

Right now, the NU football team is playing without a lot of confidence in
either themselves, the plan, or their coaches.

Jeff 




From rstetson at capps-assoc.com  Tue Sep 25 20:35:54 2007
From: rstetson at capps-assoc.com (Roy Lamberton)
Date: Tue Sep 25 20:29:46 2007
Subject: [NU Sports] a thought
In-Reply-To: <092520071503.9261.46F9235B000F2D000000242D2216549976090A0B0E02080106@comcast.net>
References: <092520071503.9261.46F9235B000F2D000000242D2216549976090A0B0E02080106@comcast.net>
Message-ID: <002101c7ffdd$959c4410$c0d4cc30$@com>

Sorry to say this, but players learn this on their Middle School Teams....

Its why some guys are 5 star defenders and others are 2 star defenders.

In our kiddy league [13U] we run several tackle drills all the time - almost
every practice - because that's what we preach, good tackling.

But it still takes our kids 2 or 3 years to learn it - turn up the speed and its
really too late when you get to Div I. 

Hit - Wrap - Lift - Drive [to the dirt] is how you tackle, but you'd be amazed
at how many decent football players never figure it out. They're the ones who go
play only offense, usually.

rsl

++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
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Computer Applications & Support Associates
and Publisher of Purple Reign, 
The Scout.com Northwestern University Site
(http://www.purplewildcats.com)
AIM Handle: CoachRoy74
======== Go Cats -  Beat 'em All ===========
"You have a Republic Madam --
     If you can keep it" - Benjamin Franklin
============================================

> -----Original Message-----
> From: johnadeg@comcast.net [mailto:johnadeg@comcast.net]
> Sent: Tuesday, September 25, 2007 11:04 AM
> To: rstetson@capps-assoc.com; 'Brad Wilson'; 'nu list'
> Cc: Roy Lamberton
> Subject: RE: [NU Sports] a thought
> 
> I guess what bothers me is watching the tackling or rather lack thereof.
> Fitz was a whiz at it and you would think that he could teach that.
> Watching Penn State, when they tackle someone they go down, not so with NU.
> 
> John DeGroat
>  -------------- Original message ----------------------
> From: "Roy Lamberton" <rstetson@capps-assoc.com>
> > Even Randy Walker's early spread team ran the ball well.
> >
> > The Cats had a fairly long string of 1,000+ rushers during his tenure,
> several
> > are still running around in the NFL.
> >
> > There's some kind of a disconnect with that style of offense - maybe it's
> the
> > O-line - maybe its that our honored opponents in the Big 10 have figured
> out how
> > to stop NU's running game. I know that I'd certainly spy a back like
> Sutton but
> > I might have been distracted by Kustok and Baz in earlier years.
> >
> > My kids always want to know what play I'm going to run first in a game.
> Its
> > almost always a 31 or 32 dive - its gets the entire line hitting.
> >
> > If I was the coach, I'd sure look more closely at my game plan. NU always
> was
> > 50-50 run-pass. While Ross Lane mentioned that in a recent interview, the
> Cats
> > are nowhere near that ratio this year.
> >
> > rsl
> >
> > ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
> > Roy S. Lamberton - Senior Associate
> > Computer Applications & Support Associates
> > and Publisher of Purple Reign,
> > The Scout.com Northwestern University Site
> > (http://www.purplewildcats.com)
> > AIM Handle: CoachRoy74
> > ======== Go Cats -  Beat 'em All ===========
> > "You have a Republic Madam --
> >      If you can keep it" - Benjamin Franklin
> > ============================================
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: nwu-sports-bounces@tssi.com [mailto:nwu-sports-bounces@tssi.com]
> On
> > > Behalf Of Brad Wilson
> > > Sent: Tuesday, September 25, 2007 2:13 AM
> > > To: nu list
> > > Subject: [NU Sports] a thought
> > >
> > > I have been listening to WGN's archive of the great
> > > games  of the 2000-2005 era to buck myself up after
> > > the last two  debacles, and one things stands out:
> > >
> > > The great NU teams ran the ball. Ran it on Wisconsin,
> > > ran it on Michigan, ran it on Ohio State. Ran it down
> > > their throats.
> > >
> > > Sure, Zac and Brett were great QBs and they had
> > > terrific receivers when they did. But that success
> > > came from the ground game.
> > >
> > > It seems to me that McGhee has it backward: pass then
> > > run. It needs to be the reverse. I don't know about
> > > Conteh, but Roberson seems like a solid back.
> > > Obviously, Sutton's return would really help, but even
> > > without him, NU has to run the ball better.
> > >
> > > This NU team has no prayer of moving the ball in the
> > > Big Ten on those little passes into the flat. NU has
> > > to run the ball: it keeps the defense off the field
> > > (good), sets up the screens and dinky passes and sets
> > > the tempo.
> > >
> > > I really think it's just about that simple: run the
> > > damned ball. Spend this week having the OL work on the
> > > run and pound the ball at Michigan.
> > >
> > > The great wins of the past came from DA, DA2, Wright,
> > > Herron, Sutton grinding the ball out. Let's get back
> > > to that.
> > >
> > > bw
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > "Happy are those who see beauty in the modest spots where others see
> > > nothing." -- Camille Pissaro
> > >
> > > "Quis ipsos custodes custodiet?" -- Juvenal
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> ___________________________________________________________________________
> > > _________
> > > Moody friends. Drama queens. Your life? Nope! - their life, your story.
> > > Play Sims Stories at Yahoo! Games.
> > > http://sims.yahoo.com/
> > >
> > > _______________________________________________
> > > nwu-sports site list
> > > nwu-sports@tssi.com
> > > http://romaine.tssi.com/mailman/listinfo/nwu-sports
> >
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From spiritu at northwestern.edu  Wed Sep 26 22:33:55 2007
From: spiritu at northwestern.edu (Jonathan Michael Hawkins)
Date: Wed Sep 26 22:28:02 2007
Subject: [NU Sports] BTN on DirectTV in HD?
Message-ID: <d477ce9c0709262033j20b70a1y585c5f6ef99bd686@mail.gmail.com>

This thread seems to say that Channel 220 (BTN - Main) is in HD as of today,
with more to come.

http://www.dbstalk.com/showthread.php?t=99482
<http://www.dbstalk.com/showthread.php?t=99482>

Can list members confirm?

Jonathan
From michael.vance at att.net  Wed Sep 26 22:42:22 2007
From: michael.vance at att.net (Michael Vance)
Date: Wed Sep 26 22:36:45 2007
Subject: [NU Sports] BTN on DirectTV in HD?
In-Reply-To: <d477ce9c0709262033j20b70a1y585c5f6ef99bd686@mail.gmail.com>
References: <d477ce9c0709262033j20b70a1y585c5f6ef99bd686@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <46FB269E.4070400@att.net>

It is!  For those with HD, there are now two channel 220s listed, "BTNH" 
and "BTN".  If you have HD, it automatically tunes to the HD channel if 
you just put in the number.

-Michael

Jonathan Michael Hawkins wrote:
> This thread seems to say that Channel 220 (BTN - Main) is in HD as of today,
> with more to come.
>
> http://www.dbstalk.com/showthread.php?t=99482
> <http://www.dbstalk.com/showthread.php?t=99482>
>
> Can list members confirm?
>
> Jonathan
> _______________________________________________
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>   

From jthiegs at goldengate.net  Fri Sep 28 12:05:34 2007
From: jthiegs at goldengate.net (Joe Thiegs)
Date: Fri Sep 28 12:00:49 2007
Subject: [NU Sports] Big Ten Friday Night Tailgate
Message-ID: <46FD345E.4070207@goldengate.net>

The Big Ten Network's "Big Ten Friday Night Tailgate" show covers 
NU/Evanston and U of Ill/Champaign tonight.  I love this show.  It's a 
two-hour program hosted and loosely moderated by former ESPN/ESPNU 
anchor Mike Hall.  In case you haven't seen it, they use two amusing 
road reporters, Andy and Jordan, who each cover one campus and "compete" 
for the best overall atmosphere in a number of categories.  So far 
they've done Michigan-PSU, Minnesota-Iowa, Wisconsin-Indiana, 
Michigan-tOSU, and now NU-Illinois. I like it because you learn a lot 
about each of the schools--history and traditions, unique events or 
attributes, school spirit-related items, a segment on a prominent 
academic field or specialty at the school, and other tidbits.  I'll be 
interested to see what they pick up about Northwestern.

-Joe

From nolan at romaine.tssi.com  Fri Sep 28 12:18:24 2007
From: nolan at romaine.tssi.com (Mike Nolan)
Date: Fri Sep 28 12:18:27 2007
Subject: [NU Sports] Big Ten Friday Night Tailgate (fwd)
Message-ID: <200709281718.l8SHIOW2022022@romaine.tssi.com>

> Michigan-tOSU, and now NU-Illinois. I like it because you learn a lot 
> about each of the schools--history and traditions, unique events or 
> attributes, school spirit-related items, a segment on a prominent 
> academic field or specialty at the school, and other tidbits.  I'll be 
> interested to see what they pick up about Northwestern.

I remember someone running a (print media) piece about comparative campus 
life in the Big 10 during my years at Northwestern, and the on-campus 
reaction to it was "These other Big 10 schools close their LIBRARY on 
Friday evening??"
--
Mike Nolan

From neilkaplan at yahoo.com  Fri Sep 28 20:12:06 2007
From: neilkaplan at yahoo.com (Neil Kaplan)
Date: Fri Sep 28 20:05:50 2007
Subject: [NU Sports] Interesting article in the daily
Message-ID: <535438.68400.qm@web54112.mail.re2.yahoo.com>

http://sports.yahoo.com/ncaaf/news?slug=uwire-catsseeingchangesinfootbal&prov=uwire&type=lgns


"While Walker was the offensive maestro who powered NU's spread attack,
Fitzgerald's ideas rest on the defensive side of the ball. Colby
described Coach Walker's defensive checkups as walking in, seeing how
the coordinators were doing, and leaving if all systems were good. A
change of pace has occurred in Fitzgerald's first 16 games as head man
-- the presence of a head coach in defensive film sessions, with a
supply of ideas and a wealth of expectations."


Found this really interesting given our incredibly innovative offense and our usually pathetic defense and spec teams in the Walker era.  In retrospect, the level of offensive innovation was a once in a generation thing.  The level of surprise that we had in 2000 with our version of the spread in the B10 was almost unprecedented.  Remember how completely unprepared people were to play us?  Now everyone else has caught up.  Because of our talent pool, we need to consistently be innovators - that is our key to success.  
 
_________________________________________



From rstetson at capps-assoc.com  Fri Sep 28 22:17:21 2007
From: rstetson at capps-assoc.com (Roy Lamberton)
Date: Fri Sep 28 22:10:48 2007
Subject: [NU Sports] Interesting article in the daily
In-Reply-To: <535438.68400.qm@web54112.mail.re2.yahoo.com>
References: <535438.68400.qm@web54112.mail.re2.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <000001c80247$3fb2dfc0$bf189f40$@com>

Raises a couple of questions:

1. Did Dunbar leave because he thought Walker was moving away from the Spread to
something else?
2. I Fitz is more hands-on the defense, who is watching over the offense, since
he's also the special teams coach.
3. When does Fitz sleep?

rsl

++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
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and Publisher of Purple Reign, 
The Scout.com Northwestern University Site
(http://www.purplewildcats.com)
AIM Handle: CoachRoy74
======== Go Cats -  Beat 'em All ===========
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     If you can keep it" - Benjamin Franklin
============================================

> -----Original Message-----
> From: nwu-sports-bounces@tssi.com [mailto:nwu-sports-bounces@tssi.com] On
> Behalf Of Neil Kaplan
> Sent: Friday, September 28, 2007 9:12 PM
> To: nwu-sports@tssi.com
> Subject: [NU Sports] Interesting article in the daily
> 
> http://sports.yahoo.com/ncaaf/news?slug=uwire-
> catsseeingchangesinfootbal&prov=uwire&type=lgns
> 
> 
> "While Walker was the offensive maestro who powered NU's spread attack,
> Fitzgerald's ideas rest on the defensive side of the ball. Colby
> described Coach Walker's defensive checkups as walking in, seeing how
> the coordinators were doing, and leaving if all systems were good. A
> change of pace has occurred in Fitzgerald's first 16 games as head man
> -- the presence of a head coach in defensive film sessions, with a
> supply of ideas and a wealth of expectations."
> 
> 
> Found this really interesting given our incredibly innovative offense and
> our usually pathetic defense and spec teams in the Walker era.  In
> retrospect, the level of offensive innovation was a once in a generation
> thing.  The level of surprise that we had in 2000 with our version of the
> spread in the B10 was almost unprecedented.  Remember how completely
> unprepared people were to play us?  Now everyone else has caught up.
> Because of our talent pool, we need to consistently be innovators - that is
> our key to success.
> 
> _________________________________________
> 
> 
> 
> _______________________________________________
> nwu-sports site list
> nwu-sports@tssi.com
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From rstetson at capps-assoc.com  Sat Sep 29 07:19:38 2007
From: rstetson at capps-assoc.com (Roy Lamberton)
Date: Sat Sep 29 07:13:01 2007
Subject: [NU Sports] Interesting article in the daily
In-Reply-To: <000001c80247$3fb2dfc0$bf189f40$@com>
References: <535438.68400.qm@web54112.mail.re2.yahoo.com>
	<000001c80247$3fb2dfc0$bf189f40$@com>
Message-ID: <000201c80293$014ef920$03eceb60$@com>

Correction: #2 should be "If Fitz...."

One further idea for your consideration:

Duke's Head Coach is also their defensive coordinator, freeing up an additional
coaching slot. Roof got a top flight offensive guy to run that side and
essentially game plans the D - as a big time former LB and Coordinator, he knows
exactly what to do. He's the guy who recruited those big, fast D-linemen from
all over the US for the Dookies.

While many of the Duke players recruited were not considered "good enough" to
play in the Big 10, they did get their share of 3 star folks over the past 3
years and its starting to bear fruit, much the same way GB chipped away at the
recruiting wars to build the 1995 team at NU.

In Pat Fitzgerald, Northwestern has that elusive commodity - an Alum who can
coach and wants to coach for his old school. I honestly believe that the entire
assistant coaching issue will resolve itself at the end of the season with a few
changes that will amaze, astound, and anger many of the more vocal alumni.

Because Fitz was the heir apparent to a coach who would have filled out his last
contract, he's going to be very hard to just fire for a bad season. When Murphy
and Beinen picked Fitz to replace Walker, they did something that FDR did when
he chose Eisenhower and Nimitz to lead the major commands in WWII. Both were
fairly junior Flag rank officers, much like position coaches on a football team.


Fitz proved he was a fast learner, and was the defensive field general during
games [Colby was usually upstairs] and they made a decent team. I know some
folks wish Colby had left when Fitz was promoted, but I think the ties between
Fitz and Colby are stronger than anyone knows - remember that Fitz sits in on
defensive meetings, something Head guys don't do regularly [at least that's what
the article suggests].

These Cats still have an upset or two inside - Cardiac Catism is not dead in
Evanston, and we've got a QB who seems to love playing that game.

I was on one of the radio stations in Ann Arbor Thursday - I predicted NU over
Michigan in a "victory right" type finish.


Go Cats

rsl



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and Publisher of Purple Reign, 
The Scout.com Northwestern University Site
(http://www.purplewildcats.com)
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======== Go Cats -  Beat 'em All ===========
"You have a Republic Madam --
     If you can keep it" - Benjamin Franklin
============================================

> -----Original Message-----
> From: nwu-sports-bounces@tssi.com [mailto:nwu-sports-bounces@tssi.com] On
> Behalf Of Roy Lamberton
> Sent: Friday, September 28, 2007 11:17 PM
> To: 'Neil Kaplan'; nwu-sports@tssi.com
> Subject: RE: [NU Sports] Interesting article in the daily
> 
> Raises a couple of questions:
> 
> 1. Did Dunbar leave because he thought Walker was moving away from the
> Spread to
> something else?
> 2. I Fitz is more hands-on the defense, who is watching over the offense,
> since
> he's also the special teams coach.
> 3. When does Fitz sleep?
> 
> rsl
> 
> ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
> Roy S. Lamberton - Senior Associate
> Computer Applications & Support Associates
> and Publisher of Purple Reign,
> The Scout.com Northwestern University Site
> (http://www.purplewildcats.com)
> AIM Handle: CoachRoy74
> ======== Go Cats -  Beat 'em All ===========
> "You have a Republic Madam --
>      If you can keep it" - Benjamin Franklin
> ============================================
> 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: nwu-sports-bounces@tssi.com [mailto:nwu-sports-bounces@tssi.com] On
> > Behalf Of Neil Kaplan
> > Sent: Friday, September 28, 2007 9:12 PM
> > To: nwu-sports@tssi.com
> > Subject: [NU Sports] Interesting article in the daily
> >
> > http://sports.yahoo.com/ncaaf/news?slug=uwire-
> > catsseeingchangesinfootbal&prov=uwire&type=lgns
> >
> >
> > "While Walker was the offensive maestro who powered NU's spread attack,
> > Fitzgerald's ideas rest on the defensive side of the ball. Colby
> > described Coach Walker's defensive checkups as walking in, seeing how
> > the coordinators were doing, and leaving if all systems were good. A
> > change of pace has occurred in Fitzgerald's first 16 games as head man
> > -- the presence of a head coach in defensive film sessions, with a
> > supply of ideas and a wealth of expectations."
> >
> >
> > Found this really interesting given our incredibly innovative offense and
> > our usually pathetic defense and spec teams in the Walker era.  In
> > retrospect, the level of offensive innovation was a once in a generation
> > thing.  The level of surprise that we had in 2000 with our version of the
> > spread in the B10 was almost unprecedented.  Remember how completely
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From jleonard518 at yahoo.com  Sat Sep 29 07:52:51 2007
From: jleonard518 at yahoo.com (Jim Leonard)
Date: Sat Sep 29 07:46:30 2007
Subject: [NU Sports] Bring on Michigan...
Message-ID: <680159.39472.qm@web36810.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

Fellow Wildcat Faithful,

Despite the Duke Debacle and the Columbus Collapse, I think our Cats have a chance against Michigan today. We'd have a much better chance if Sutton were playing, but our game plan depends more on defense, especially of Mallett starts at QB.

A freshman QB making his first start on the road is going to stick to the safe short passes. Michigan will want to run the ball 45 times. If we had any DC other than Greg Colby, I imagine we'd bring 8 people up and have 2 LBs spy Michael Hart. If he can be kept under 100 yards, we will win. 

On offense, we need to let CJ run: options, designed QB running plays, and scrambles. Michigan has trouble with spread offenses that feature mobile QBs. 

My hunch is that Michigan will get a 14-point lead in the first half and then Llyod Carr will try to sit on the lead by running Hart between the tackles. If the Cats can stay focused and find the end zone at least twice, I think we can win the rest with field goals.

Victory & Honor,
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From WildElk2 at aol.com  Sat Sep 29 10:43:16 2007
From: WildElk2 at aol.com (WildElk2@aol.com)
Date: Sat Sep 29 10:40:51 2007
Subject: [NU Sports] Mich. prediction
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Cats get offense going, but Hart has a big day. Mich. wins  38-20.           
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From nolan at romaine.tssi.com  Sat Sep 29 11:59:40 2007
From: nolan at romaine.tssi.com (Mike Nolan)
Date: Sat Sep 29 11:59:44 2007
Subject: [NU Sports] Kitty cats???
Message-ID: <200709291659.l8TGxe3K025641@romaine.tssi.com>

ESPN just showed Conteh's TD run (which looked great), but then followed that
up with this asinine remark:  "The kitty cats are making some noise."
--
Mike Nolan

From nolan at romaine.tssi.com  Sat Sep 29 14:30:09 2007
From: nolan at romaine.tssi.com (Mike Nolan)
Date: Sat Sep 29 14:30:12 2007
Subject: [NU Sports] More turnovers than at Bennison's
Message-ID: <200709291930.l8TJU9oL026012@romaine.tssi.com>

Argh, turning the ball over on FOUR STRAIGHT SERIES??
--
Mike Nolan

From NEONRye at aol.com  Sat Sep 29 15:28:10 2007
From: NEONRye at aol.com (NEONRye@aol.com)
Date: Sat Sep 29 15:25:55 2007
Subject: [NU Sports] More turnovers than at Bennison's
Message-ID: <cc4.1ce3767e.34300f5a@aol.com>

Well, we hung tough for three quarters.  Just had my first exposure to  BT 
Network--at a Buffalo Wild Wings near my house.  Made some new 'Cat  friends, 
and had a great afternoon, even though we lost, with my 2 favorite  teams in the 
world--NY Mets and NU 'Cats--side by side on TV screens.  This  is a game we 
coulda, shoulda won, but still, I saw a lot of good things (even  though I 
only actually saw second half of game).   Our defense is  playing much tougher, 
and if we only had Tyrell out there, and could spell him  with Conteh, we'd 
have been that much better.  We played hard and with  passion, but our O-Line was 
just woeful from mid-Third Quarter on, and CJ has to  get rid of ball 
quicker, when under pressure, even if he just flings it out of  bounds.
 
Still, it didn't look for once like we got out-coached, just  "out-athleted", 
to coin an awkward phrase. 
 
And Ryan/Dyche looked beautiful on the tube.   Meanwhile, Big Ten  is 
"upside-down", with Illini and Hoosiers winning, and PSU in cellar with  us.
 
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From johnadeg at comcast.net  Sat Sep 29 16:26:53 2007
From: johnadeg at comcast.net (johnadeg@comcast.net)
Date: Sat Sep 29 16:21:09 2007
Subject: [NU Sports] Defense
Message-ID: <092920072126.21891.46FEC31D0004C6E0000055832216525856090A0B0E02080106@comcast.net>

I have yet to understand why the defense plays wide receivers  ten yard away instead of close to the line of scrimmage.  It just about guarantees them at least five yards or more on each reception.  IN my opinion that i  main resson that teams get big plays against us.  Maybe I'm nuts but that's my  view.  

Both Illinois and Indiana proved today that they won't be push overs any more.

John DeGroat

From tmcadams at yahoo.com  Sat Sep 29 16:29:19 2007
From: tmcadams at yahoo.com (Trey McAdams)
Date: Sat Sep 29 16:22:56 2007
Subject: [NU Sports] Angry in Roscoe Village
Message-ID: <91751.61880.qm@web52209.mail.re2.yahoo.com>

Does anyone have any questions why Lloyd Carr has not won more National Championships?

What a incredibly poor coach this man is?  Does he have an aggressive bone in his body?  He had a better team at 22 of 22 starting positions, Yet he "coached" his team to be trailing to a undermanned (yet inspired) NU team.

Carr has been a disgrace to the Big 10 for years.  How many National titles would Michigan have won in the last 10 years with an average coach? 3? 4?  They certainly would have played for 3 or 4.

I credit our team for playing hard today.  They truly seemed like they wanted the win and played for it.  We were 1-2 plays away from winning the game despite the turnovers.  I am disappointed we were not able to execute consistently.

But seriously, WHY WERE WE EVEN IN THE GAME??????  Carr clearly does not show his teams how to dominate or have any heart.  In the first quarter he is up 7-3 and calls run plays on the first and second down.  He could have put us away right there by throwing the ball.  We have some talent in the secondary, but rarely have we shown any pass rush.   How does he not throw more on us?  At the end of the 1st half - he was letting the clock run down before kicking the field goal.  He should have pulled his D on the field and said - make NU go 3 and out and use his timeouts to get the ball back and try to score again before half time.

As a football fan, I could barely watch the game today.  To watch a Michigan team that is so talented simply leave a hugely inferior opponent in the game was really hard to watch.

Would Michigan win more than 4 games a year in the SEC?  I think not.

Michigan - please do us a favor and fire Carr immediately so that this conference can get back to respectability.  I would rather see us lose 56-7 than get beat by an underachiever like Carr.

Angry in Roscoe Village.



       
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From johnadeg at comcast.net  Sat Sep 29 16:35:14 2007
From: johnadeg at comcast.net (johnadeg@comcast.net)
Date: Sat Sep 29 16:29:30 2007
Subject: [NU Sports] Kitty cats???
Message-ID: <092920072135.12709.46FEC512000EA988000031A52216525856090A0B0E02080106@comcast.net>

Until NU starts winning more games and has a stadium that has more fans from the visiting school than NU fans, we can expect derogatory comments like "kitty cats"

John DeGroat
 -------------- Original message ----------------------
From: Mike Nolan <nolan@romaine.tssi.com>
> ESPN just showed Conteh's TD run (which looked great), but then followed that
> up with this asinine remark:  "The kitty cats are making some noise."
> --
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From jonathanwhodges at gmail.com  Sat Sep 29 16:58:52 2007
From: jonathanwhodges at gmail.com (Jonathan Hodges)
Date: Sat Sep 29 16:52:48 2007
Subject: [NU Sports] Defense
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While I do not agree with the decision to put the corners back 10 yards on
virtually every play, it makes sense given the overall defensive strategy.
Today NU kept a lot of men "in the box" and that went a long way towards
stopping the run - in fact Hart was pretty well contained for most of the
day.  This meant less safety help on the edges and therefore the need to
play it safe.  Also, it doesn't help having guys who can't cover the
opponents' fastest receivers (except maybe McManis who had a couple of nice
plays today).

Unfortunately we continue to see the result of that - QBs who can always
find an open receiver and a team that almost never gets interceptions.  Oh,
and Carr will continue to have them throw quick passes to the outside
receiver who has the big cushion.  Obviously stopping the run is nice, but
the thing that is really hurting NU is the lack of a pass rush.  Even when
our DL can get pressure on the QB it's usually too late.

Jonathan

On 9/29/07, johnadeg@comcast.net <johnadeg@comcast.net> wrote:
>
> I have yet to understand why the defense plays wide receivers  ten yard
> away instead of close to the line of scrimmage.  It just about guarantees
> them at least five yards or more on each reception.  IN my opinion that
> i  main resson that teams get big plays against us.  Maybe I'm nuts but
> that's my  view.
>
> Both Illinois and Indiana proved today that they won't be push overs any
> more.
>
> John DeGroat
>
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From nolan at romaine.tssi.com  Sat Sep 29 16:53:23 2007
From: nolan at romaine.tssi.com (Mike Nolan)
Date: Sat Sep 29 16:53:26 2007
Subject: [NU Sports] Angry in Roscoe Village (fwd)
Message-ID: <200709292153.l8TLrNYG026622@romaine.tssi.com>

> I credit our team for playing hard today.  They truly seemed like 
> they wanted the win and played for it.  We were 1-2 plays away from 
> winning the game despite the turnovers.  I am disappointed we were not 
> able to execute consistently.

Our 2nd half series were as follows:

8 plays, 34 yards, punt
9 plays, 37 yards, punt
6 plays, 15 yards, fumble
6 plays, 15 yards, fumble
3 plays, 3 yards, interception
3 plays, -10 yards, fumble

So much for us being a '2nd half team' today.  

Michigan scored 21 points off those 2nd half turnovers, and that was the
difference in the game.  It reminded me a bit too much of the collapse
against MSU last year.  
--
Mike Nolan

From tkmaycock at yahoo.com  Sat Sep 29 17:21:13 2007
From: tkmaycock at yahoo.com (Tom Maycock)
Date: Sat Sep 29 17:14:51 2007
Subject: [NU Sports] Michigan game
In-Reply-To: <cc4.1ce3767e.34300f5a@aol.com>
Message-ID: <874293.92512.qm@web33106.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

My 2 cents:

The defense played a great football game. Yes, they allowed some 3rd
down completions on out patterns, and ultimately didn't put enough
pressure on the QB to really take over the game. But they played well
enough to win, and even bailed out the offense after some of the
turnovers. 

This was, I think, a defensive game plan in the classic mid-90's
defense of bend-but-don't-break. No big plays. Make them snap it 3
times for every 7 yards. Eventually you stop them. And it worked out
that way more often than not. Without the turnovers, we win.

Michigan clearly has issues, but I'm entirely comfortable with the
defensive effort. We totally shut down Hart until after it didn't
really matter any more. The D play all-out to the last tick of the
clock.

The offense was pretty solid, but ultimately CJ made some critical
mistakes, and the O-line couldn't protect him well enough. Conteh
played very well, but it would have been nice to have Sutton in this
game--there were a few plays where you just know that Sutton could have
made something special out of nothing.

A very disappointing lost, but ultimately I'm left with a much better
feeling than the last two weeks. This was a well-coached, competent
football team that should have a shot at beating any of the teams left
on the schedule.

As for Carr, I do question why they weren't more agressive throwing the
ball, especially given the way we absolutely stoned their running game
most of the game. And, I have no idea why they didn't blitz us more
early on, which is clearly the weak spot in our offense. 

Tom

From johnl at mac.com  Sat Sep 29 18:18:53 2007
From: johnl at mac.com (John Labbe)
Date: Sat Sep 29 18:12:31 2007
Subject: [NU Sports] Angry in Roscoe Village (fwd)
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The offense was not a second half team, but I thought the D continued 
to play well.

Not that it really matters, but Michigan only scored 14 points off the 
four 2nd half turnovers, all in the fourth quarter.  Their first 
touchdown of the second half was after a punt and a long Michigan 
drive.  But then after the offense sputtered again, the D stopped 
Michigan one more time, before the offense took over and went into 
turnover mode.

Michigan's final two touchdowns came on drives of just 26 and 16 yards. 
  You can't fault the defense too much for those, especially given that 
they stopped Michigan on two other turnover drives (albeit Michigan's 
poor field goal kicking helped out on those drives).

All five of our turnovers today were Bacher's.  That hurts for him, but 
he's really gotta protect the ball better in the backfield.


On Sep 29, 2007, at 4:53 PM, Mike Nolan wrote:

>> I credit our team for playing hard today.  They truly seemed like
>> they wanted the win and played for it.  We were 1-2 plays away from
>> winning the game despite the turnovers.  I am disappointed we were not
>> able to execute consistently.
>
> Our 2nd half series were as follows:
>
> 8 plays, 34 yards, punt
> 9 plays, 37 yards, punt
> 6 plays, 15 yards, fumble
> 6 plays, 15 yards, fumble
> 3 plays, 3 yards, interception
> 3 plays, -10 yards, fumble
>
> So much for us being a '2nd half team' today.
>
> Michigan scored 21 points off those 2nd half turnovers, and that was 
> the
> difference in the game.  It reminded me a bit too much of the collapse
> against MSU last year.
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From DPENDERG at aol.com  Sat Sep 29 20:53:21 2007
From: DPENDERG at aol.com (DPENDERG@aol.com)
Date: Sat Sep 29 20:51:15 2007
Subject: [NU Sports] Michigan game
Message-ID: <d37.158ce962.34305b91@aol.com>

 
I agree the loss was encouraging in many respects (and minus a few critical  
turnovers it could have been a W), but as the Big Ten results today 
illustrated,  every game remaining in the schedule (excluding Eastern Michigan) will be 
a  dogfight.  If Cats play flat or commit the mistakes we saw in the second  
half, we may not win another conference game.  I hope the game today will  
inspire confidence that they can play with top teams in the league, but any  lapse 
will result in defeat even against teams we thought might be likely  W's.  
Starting next Saturday in East Lansing (and in following weeks), the  Cats must 
play better than they did in the second half today or they will  lose.  Period.
 
 
In a message dated 9/29/2007 6:21:55 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,  
tkmaycock@yahoo.com writes:

My 2  cents:

The defense played a great football game. Yes, they allowed some  3rd
down completions on out patterns, and ultimately didn't put  enough
pressure on the QB to really take over the game. But they played  well
enough to win, and even bailed out the offense after some of  the
turnovers. 

This was, I think, a defensive game plan in the  classic mid-90's
defense of bend-but-don't-break. No big plays. Make them  snap it 3
times for every 7 yards. Eventually you stop them. And it worked  out
that way more often than not. Without the turnovers, we  win.

Michigan clearly has issues, but I'm entirely comfortable with  the
defensive effort. We totally shut down Hart until after it  didn't
really matter any more. The D play all-out to the last tick of  the
clock.

The offense was pretty solid, but ultimately CJ made some  critical
mistakes, and the O-line couldn't protect him well enough.  Conteh
played very well, but it would have been nice to have Sutton in  this
game--there were a few plays where you just know that Sutton could  have
made something special out of nothing.

A very disappointing  lost, but ultimately I'm left with a much better
feeling than the last two  weeks. This was a well-coached, competent
football team that should have a  shot at beating any of the teams left
on the schedule.

As for Carr,  I do question why they weren't more agressive throwing the
ball, especially  given the way we absolutely stoned their running game
most of the game.  And, I have no idea why they didn't blitz us more
early on, which is  clearly the weak spot in our offense.  

Tom

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From artmiller1 at hotmail.com  Sat Sep 29 21:15:45 2007
From: artmiller1 at hotmail.com (Arthur Miller)
Date: Sat Sep 29 21:09:43 2007
Subject: [NU Sports] Angry in Roscoe Village
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> From: tmcadams@yahoo.com> Subject: [NU Sports] Angry in Roscoe Village> > Michigan - please do us a favor and fire Carr immediately so that this conference can get back to respectability. I would rather see us lose 56-7 than get beat by an underachiever like Carr.
Not me.  I'd just as soon see Michigan keep Lloyd Carr for as long as possible.  Do you really want some Urban Meyer- or Bob Stoops-caliber coach to come in and resurrect that program to what it's capable of achieving?  No thanks...overfunded public universities like that have every advantage NU doesn't, and the Michigan program can rot in hell as far as I'm concerned.
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From sjtruog at yahoo.com  Sun Sep 30 02:08:09 2007
From: sjtruog at yahoo.com (SjT (Stephen J. Truog))
Date: Sun Sep 30 02:01:49 2007
Subject: [NU Sports] WILDCAT WRAP: Michigan 28, Northwestern 16
Message-ID: <619119.40545.qm@web52901.mail.re2.yahoo.com>

Where?s Dennis Green when you need him? As the former
Northwestern coach and current star of beer
commercials would have screamed, ?we let ?em off the
hook!?

The Northwestern Wildcats rebounded impressively from
a dismal showing last week at Ohio State to outhustle,
outcoach and outplay Michigan for most of Saturday?s
game in Evanston, before letting Big Blue off the hook
with a trio of fourth quarter turnovers in a 28-16
loss.

The encouraging news for purple-clad fans was that NU
stopped what had been a steady regression each game
this year from the season-opening win over
Northeastern. The bad news, however, is that for the
second straight home game, the Cats outgained their
opponent and played well enough to win. Penalties did
them in against Duke and turnovers were the chief
culprit against Michigan.

It was a picture-perfect day in sunny Evanston as the
Cats took the field for the Big Ten opener. Ryan Field
was packed, mostly by Maize and Blue fans, but the
Michigan faithful really didn?t make themselves heard
until the fourth quarter. It?s actually not all that
bad when visiting fans outnumber NU fans in Ryan Field
(embarrassing, but not all bad), because it really
seems to fire up the folks in purple. The crowd was
standing on third down today, making noise and helped
fire up the team as much as I can recall in recent
years.

One other note ? maybe it?s the resurgence of turf in
the Big Ten this year, but the grass at Ryan Field
looked awfully rough and spotty ? not the lush green
bed it had been in recent years. Dunno if it?s the
weather, trying to cut it shorter for a faster track
or what, but it didn?t look too good.

As for the game, things started out well for the Cats,
with an opening out route to Ward that wound up being
a 64-yard gain. Unfortunately, the Cats could only get
a field goal out of the drive, but it got the team and
fans fired up and showed a new aggressiveness from the
coaches that was much needed in putting the OSU
debacle behind them.

On defense, the Cats keyed in on Michigan?s main man,
Mike Hart, all day and shut him down as well as
anybody has this year. He wound up barely topping 100
yards on 30 carries, but the only reason he topped the
century mark was a late scamper aided considerably by
a wide receiver hold that was uncalled. Speaking of
our zebra friends, this crew was the exact opposite of
the Duke crew ? several seemingly obvious holds on
both sides went uncalled and only a few flags delayed
the action all day. As long as it?s consistent, I have
no problem with that.

The down side of the Cats? focus on Hart was that it
opened up the passing game. Michigan zipped down the
field on the first drive with the pass and scored a
quick six to go up 7-3. It would, however, be their
only real drive of the first half. The NU defense
continued to clamp down on Hart the rest of the day
and even got some pressure on Michigan?s passing game
later in the half to keep the Wolverines off the board
for the rest of the half and really until the very end
of the third quarter. They didn?t convert many third
downs (and the one fourth down they made was by
penalty) and given how talented their receivers are,
we played about as well as we could on defense by
shutting down Hart and keeping the passing game in
check ? the fourth quarter scores were short field
ones. They really only had one drive after that
initial score. Nice job, defense.

After Michigan scored, Northwestern did something they
haven?t done in awhile ? respond. They did it with a
nicely called drive that mixed up the plays and kept
the Wolverines guessing on defense. The balanced
attack led to a 49 yard scamper up the middle by Omar
Conteh to put the Cats ahead 10-7 at the end of the
first.

Special teams continued to be a welcome strength for
Northwestern in the second quarter, as Amado
Villarreal nailed a 49-yard field goal along with a
27-yarder at the end of the half, while his Michigan
counterpart missed an easy chip shot (and would miss
another later). Unfortunately, however, these were the
only points the Cats could muster in the second
quarter despite dominating in plays, yards and time of
possession. Michigan was out of sync on offense, out
of answers on defense yet only down 16-7 heading into
the locker room.

The third quarter again saw the Cats squander some
chances, as promising drives that started to get a
rhythm going fizzled out near midfield. Michigan
continued to struggle on offense as well, until Chad
Henne was put back in the game and led a drive late in
the third to cut the NU lead to 16-14.

Northwestern-Michigan games have pretty much followed
two patterns over the past 15 years. Either Michigan
wins big, or Northwestern wins a close game. Through
three quarters, the Michigan fans had to have a
nagging feeling in their gut that this year was going
to be one of the latter examples. The Cats had come to
play and Michigan was not looking too good. Hart and
the O line was not wearing down the purple rushing
defense and Northwestern was racking up a lot of yards
on offense. You could see signs of hope on the faces
of NU fans and players as well as the teams came out
fired up for the last 15 minutes of play.

And here?s where you would insert Dennis Green?s
postgame rant, now famous in commercials, after his
Arizona Cardinals surrendered a flurry of late
touchdowns off turnovers and special teams play to the
Chicago Bears to let a win slip away last year on
Monday Night Football. Northwestern was well prepared
for this game. Michigan was exactly who we thought
they were 
 and we let ?em off the hook.

After another nice defensive stand near midfield, the
Cats set the unfortunate chain of events in motion by
Ward bobbling a punt and barely recovering to start
the drive in the 1 yard line. We dug out of that hole
thanks to a gutsy call and nice pass from C.J. Bacher
to Ross Lane on 3rd and 10 
 only to give the ball
right back to Michigan a few plays later as Bacher was
carrying the ball loosely on a scramble, was stripped
and Shawn Crable recovered the fumble at the 15.
Michigan still couldn?t get Hart going, and had to
work for every inch despite the short field, but
eventually scored to take a 21-16 lead.

Northwestern still had plenty of time to drive down
with nine minutes left, and was putting together
another nice drive with a  couple of nifty first-down
catches by Kim Thompson and Eric Peterman. But Bacher
was hit on a blindside blitz and the ball popped out.
Any hope of a ?tuck play? replay made famous by
another Michigan alum was dashed when the Wolverines
picked the ball up before it hit the ground and
returned it again to around the NU 25. But three plays
and one yard later, Michigan missed another field goal
and the Cats still had hope with 6 minutes remaining.

But the Cats? ensuing drive ended in, you guessed it,
a turnover. A pass behind the receiver bounced off
Wildcat hands into a Michigan defender?s arms and for
the third time in half a quarter, the Wolverines were
starting a drive inside the Wildcat 30. The D held
last time, but you just can?t keep giving an offense
with as many weapons as Michigan a short field. Here?s
where Hart had his one long run of the game ? aided by
some jersey grabbing downfield ? to get it to the 1
yard line and set up a touchdown later to seal the
game with 4 minutes to go.

Any hopes of a comeback were dashed by yet another
Wildcat turnover on offense when Bacher fumbled after
being hit, and the Wolverines ran out the clock to
escape Evanston with 28-16 win. They didn?t play near
as well as they had the past two weeks, but they took
advantages of NU generosity to get the win.

As for the Cats, it was their best overall effort of
the season and showed so many signs of growth 
 but
they panicked in the fourth and started to make
similar mistakes to the Duke loss before collapsing.
They could easily be 4-1 right now, but are 2-3
instead and will be kicking themselves about these
last two home losses and how they let them slip away
at the end. Hopefully the can rebound to catch a
Michigan State team coming off a heartbreaking loss
napping next week.

GAME BALLS
* The coaches. The play calling and game plans against
Duke and Ohio State justly deserved weeks worth of
criticism. So today?s game plan and motivation are
just as deserving of praise. We mixed up the offense
well to keep Michigan off kilter (even put in some
nice runs for CJ ? but HANG ON TO THE BALL!), we made
them one-dimensional on defense and even got a little
pressure when needed and ? a big credit to Fitz ? we
put that embarrassing loss to OSU behind us and came
to play against one of the nation?s most talented
teams.
* Special teams. Aside from the muffed punt and an
opening kickoff out of bounds, we again played solid
in this phase of the game and clearly outplayed
Michigan. Great field goal kicking by Villarreal. Good
returns. Solid coverage.
* Omar Conteh. With Sutton out, Conteh really stepped
up nicely to outplay Mike Hart and give our offense
balance with a running attack.

THINGS TO WORK ON
* Finish. Finish drives. Finish games. We had this one
gentlemen. We had this one cold. But our second half
drives fizzled out around midfield and our fourth
quarter was awful ? and it wasn?t conservative style
play calling (we were nice and aggressive still), it
was our execution. We looked like we believed we could
win for three quarters and then all of a sudden had
doubt.
* Hold on to the ball. Three fumbles. Two
interceptions. You just don?t win with those numbers
and most of those came in the fourth quarter.
* Capitalize on chances. This goes along with the
finishing drives theme. We had 500+ yards on Duke and
14 points. We had 400+ on Michigan and only 16 points.
Even one more TD on those second and third quarter
drives that fizzled out would have really had Michigan
hitting the panic button.

AROUND THE LEAGUE
* Can we finally lay off the Big Ten now national
media? After a wild weekend of upsets around the
country that makes you realize just why you gotta LOVE
college football, it?s pretty clear that you can?t
judge our league by the 0-2 Michigan start and place
us near the end of the BCS conferences. The ACC is a
mediocre mess, the Big East?s Big Three have all lost
one game already and the Big XII?s Big Two both lost
in shockers today. Even the Mighty Gators choked one
away at home against an Auburn team that was in
disarray after two home losses to unranked teams. We
may not have the heavy hitters the SEC does or USC,
but I?ll put our depth alongside anyone ? even this
year.
* As for the top teams, OHIO STATE is starting to look
like the one to beat. The defense is the league?s best
(by default?) and the offense is coming along. The
Bucks have some tough road tests coming up, though.
* And WISCONSIN keeps surviving and advancing 
 and
winning. Yeah, their D is pretty porous and they
haven?t been impressive, but all that counts is the W
and beating Michigan State is no easy task this year.
* PURDUE called off the dogs a bit and allowed a few
late scores to make it closer than it was, but still
easily rolled to a quiet 5-0 by beating Notre Dame.
* As for our depth, the Big Ten looks to have a solid
middle this year of bowl contenders. ILLINOIS would be
5-0 right now if they could have even hung on to one
of the 55 turnovers against Mizzou in the opener. Nice
win over Penn State for Zook?s resurgence. And INDIANA
is sniffing the postseason as well after an impressive
win in Iowa City. There are just no easy Ws in this
league.

I hate to keep harping on it, but the mood of Cats?
fans right now still goes back to that Duke game. Last
week?s embarrassment felt even worse because it
knocked us to 2-2 when we should have been 3-1. And
despite a vastly improved game plan and effort this
week against Michigan, it?s still hard to feel
anything but empty and disappointed because we let
Michigan and Duke get away. If we had beaten Duke, 3-2
with a solid game against Michigan might be less
mopey, but now it?s 2-3 with a tough game ahead in
East Lansing. We really don?t have much more margin
for error this year and as noble an effort as today
was, it doesn?t cut it anymore. No more letting teams
off the hook ? time to step up and finish, Cats. Start
next week against Sparty!

GO CATS!!!
-SjT

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From sjtruog at yahoo.com  Sun Sep 30 02:39:38 2007
From: sjtruog at yahoo.com (SjT (Stephen J. Truog))
Date: Sun Sep 30 02:33:15 2007
Subject: [NU Sports] Two more cents ...
Message-ID: <695290.45471.qm@web52912.mail.re2.yahoo.com>

Not too much to add after reading the posts except a
few more points ...

First, just an observation. In 1994, I was at the
NU-OSU game where the Buckeyes got outplayed,
outhustled and outcoached and escaped Evanston with a
17-15 victory. After the game, the scarley and grey
fans migrated toward the OSU tunnel to hurl insults
and shower boos on Coach Coop.

After today's game, where Michigan was outplayed,
outhustled and outcoached only to escape 28-16 after
four straight turnovers in the final quarter, the
maize and blue fans migrated toward the Michigan
tunnel to ... celebrate and cheer their "victors."

Have expectations at Michigan really changed that
much?:) If this had happened last year, I would think
the OSU scene would have been repeated by Michigan
fans. But maybe it's a humbling after Appalachain
State or just being resigned to letting Lloyd have his
final year before a new coach??? I dunno.

If it hadn't been so saddening for me watching NU give
away the game, I might have taken time to chuckle at
the Michigan fans in attendance who were so quiet
through three quarters doing celebratory chest bumps
and "yeah baby" or "THAT's what I'm talkin' about!"
shouts after their team escapes Evanston.

Kinda like the Irish faithful in South Bend last week
waiving those white flags. Times have changed.:)

As for NU's game a couple quick replies ...

* Nothing but love for the D today. Michigan had only
one real drive after the opening drive. We got off the
field on 3rd down most of the day. Yeah, we gave
cushions, but we knocked a pass down, got pressure a
few times and totally shut down the nation's best
running back, making them one-dimensional. This wasn't
the D's fault. Giving Michigan the ball four times in
the fourth on a short field will doom anybody.

* Love the gameplan all around - we ran CJ more, we
did some pump fakes on offense to set up crossing
routes and deeper throws downfield and we mixed it up.

* Our execution, however, got worse. I was hoping that
after the Nevada game, CJ had that confidence that we
all saw Zak and Baz have to come through in the
clutch, but the Duke and Michigan games have hurt that
hope. He's still our QB, but he has to develop that
leadership and confidence in crunch time (some help
from the O line would help, too).

* On Carr, I don't fault his plan here too much -
though I was surprised he didn't try play action deep
more. But I'm sure he never expected us to shut down
Hart like we did. His O line wore down PSU's tough
defense last week despite every Nittany Lion in the
world focusing on #20 ... he had been criticized
(rightly) for forgetting about Hart in the first two
losses, so I wasn't surprised to see him keep going to
#20. I think he was shocked that his talented O line
didn't open up huge holes for Hart to run through.

* Finally, I agree with Tom's assessment: 

"A very disappointing  lost, but ultimately I'm left
with a much better feeling than the last two  weeks."

Exactly - if we play like this the rest of the season,
we can beat anyone. We just need to finish. Love Fitz'
job of getting the team focused after such a
devastating loss. Love the game plan of the coaches.
But we've already let two wins slip away - we don't
have room for any more shouldawons ... BEAT SPARTY!!!

GO CATS!!!
-SjT

* * * * * * * * *
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From mhrjgscott at aol.com  Sun Sep 30 04:36:01 2007
From: mhrjgscott at aol.com (mhrjgscott@aol.com)
Date: Sun Sep 30 04:31:07 2007
Subject: [NU Sports] Two more cents ...
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thanks for the recap as I am in Pondicherry and do not get any NU news here, btw for any Kellogg alums I spoke to a class at the Great Lakes Institute in Chennai yesterday which is a biz school founded by Bala Ballacharan a great prof in his hometown. go cats!


-----Original Message-----
From: SjT (Stephen J. Truog) <sjtruog@yahoo.com>
To: nwu-sports@tssi.com
Sent: Sun, 30 Sep 2007 1:09 pm
Subject: [NU Sports] Two more cents ...



Not too much to add after reading the posts except a
few more points ...

First, just an observation. In 1994, I was at the
NU-OSU game where the Buckeyes got outplayed,
outhustled and outcoached and escaped Evanston with a
17-15 victory. After the game, the scarley and grey
fans migrated toward the OSU tunnel to hurl insults
and shower boos on Coach Coop.

After today's game, where Michigan was outplayed,
outhustled and outcoached only to escape 28-16 after
four straight turnovers in the final quarter, the
maize and blue fans migrated toward the Michigan
tunnel to ... celebrate and cheer their "victors."

Have expectations at Michigan really changed that
much?:) If this had happened last year, I would think
the OSU scene would have been repeated by Michigan
fans. But maybe it's a humbling after Appalachain
State or just being resigned to letting Lloyd have his
final year before a new coach??? I dunno.

If it hadn't been so saddening for me watching NU give
away the game, I might have taken time to chuckle at
the Michigan fans in attendance who were so quiet
through three quarters doing celebratory chest bumps
and "yeah baby" or "THAT's what I'm talkin' about!"
shouts after their team escapes Evanston.

Kinda like the Irish faithful in South Bend last week
waiving those white flags. Times have changed.:)

As for NU's game a couple quick replies ...

* Nothing but love for the D today. Michigan had only
one real drive after the opening drive. We got off the
field on 3rd down most of the day. Yeah, we gave
cushions, but we knocked a pass down, got pressure a
few times and totally shut down the nation's best
running back, making them one-dimensional. This wasn't
the D's fault. Giving Michigan the ball four times in
the fourth on a short field will doom anybody.

* Love the gameplan all around - we ran CJ more, we
did some pump fakes on offense to set up crossing
routes and deeper throws downfield and we mixed it up.

* Our execution, however, got worse. I was hoping that
after the Nevada game, CJ had that confidence that we
all saw Zak and Baz have to come through in the
clutch, but the Duke and Michigan games have hurt that
hope. He's still our QB, but he has to develop that
leadership and confidence in crunch time (some help
from the O line would help, too).

* On Carr, I don't fault his plan here too much -
though I was surprised he didn't try play action deep
more. But I'm sure he never expected us to shut down
Hart like we did. His O line wore down PSU's tough
defense last week despite every Nittany Lion in the
world focusing on #20 ... he had been criticized
(rightly) for forgetting about Hart in the first two
losses, so I wasn't surprised to see him keep going to
#20. I think he was shocked that his talented O line
didn't open up huge holes for Hart to run through.

* Finally, I agree with Tom's assessment: 

"A very disappointing  lost, but ultimately I'm left
with a much better feeling than the last two  weeks."

Exactly - if we play like this the rest of the season,
we can beat anyone. We just need to finish. Love Fitz'
job of getting the team focused after such a
devastating loss. Love the game plan of the coaches.
But we've already let two wins slip away - we don't
have room for any more shouldawons ... BEAT SPARTY!!!

GO CATS!!!
-SjT

* * * * * * * * *
STEPHEN J. TRUOG
sjtruog@yahoo.com
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From mlinhardt at netzero.net  Sun Sep 30 08:04:01 2007
From: mlinhardt at netzero.net (mlinhardt@netzero.net)
Date: Sun Sep 30 08:00:02 2007
Subject: [NU Sports] Mims
Message-ID: <20070930.080401.401.0@webmail08.dca.untd.com>

Anybody see Kevin Mims on the sideline?

He was animated and involved throughout the game even if the stats don't show it.

He was playing pitch-and-catch with Bacher during the warmup standing next to Bacher catching the throwbacks.  Usually defense and offense are oil and water and they just don't mix.

He was encouraging the offense when they went on the field and congratulating/consoling them when they came off.

I am sure I missed other examples.

I think it is important to have the upperclassmen make a leadership statement and to me this is an example of that.

Btw I felt most "happy" coming out of this game than any other game this season, including our two wins.  Agreed every coach won't be as dumb as Carr, but I believe we are finally playing the way I expected when the season began.  For 3 quarters we held a lead and if the offensive line had not fallen apart in quarter 4 we would won with less suspense than normal victories.
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From DPENDERG at aol.com  Sun Sep 30 10:00:08 2007
From: DPENDERG at aol.com (DPENDERG@aol.com)
Date: Sun Sep 30 09:57:31 2007
Subject: [NU Sports] Mims
Message-ID: <ca7.1b63d0d4.343113f8@aol.com>

 
Despite the positives against UM, I'm really worried about the MSU  game.  
They will be tough and eager to avenge last year's defeat.  If  the Cats lose 
their fourth consecutive game, I wonder about the psychological  impact on the 
team and how it will affect the rest of the season with now so  many good teams 
on the schedule.  Cats desperately need a W or we  could be headed toward 
another losing season.  Spartans will be very  challenging, especially on their 
home turf.  This game, in my view, is  pivotal. 
 
 
In a message dated 9/30/2007 9:07:02 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time,  
mlinhardt@netzero.net writes:

Anybody  see Kevin Mims on the sideline?

He was animated and involved throughout  the game even if the stats don't 
show it.

He was playing  pitch-and-catch with Bacher during the warmup standing next 
to Bacher catching  the throwbacks.  Usually defense and offense are oil and 
water and they  just don't mix.

He was encouraging the offense when they went on the  field and 
congratulating/consoling them when they came off.

I am sure I  missed other examples.

I think it is important to have the  upperclassmen make a leadership 
statement and to me this is an example of  that.

Btw I felt most "happy" coming out of this game than any other  game this 
season, including our two wins.  Agreed every coach won't be as  dumb as Carr, 
but I believe we are finally playing the way I expected when the  season began.  
For 3 quarters we held a lead and if the offensive line  had not fallen apart 
in quarter 4 we would won with less suspense than normal  victories.
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From tbng at comcast.net  Sun Sep 30 11:12:05 2007
From: tbng at comcast.net (Dennis W. Brandt)
Date: Sun Sep 30 11:06:38 2007
Subject: [NU Sports] I don't get it
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Message-ID: <001301c8037c$a503b210$c402a8c0@DennisMachine>

Everyone is saying the Cats gave the game away.  Is everyone wearing such 
rose-colored glasses that they missed Michigan pounding on a worn-down 
Northwestern team in the fourth quarter?  That we played our best game of 
the year does not change the fact that the size, speed, strength, and 
athleticism differential finally caught up with us.  We didn't give Michigan 
the game.  They took it.  It once more goes back to talent.  They have more 
of it than we do.

In one area we are definitely more talented than Michigan:  place-kicking. 
We finally got a good one.  Unfortunately, we're still looking for a punter. 


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From mlinhardt at netzero.net  Sun Sep 30 11:33:38 2007
From: mlinhardt at netzero.net (mlinhardt@netzero.net)
Date: Sun Sep 30 11:29:01 2007
Subject: [NU Sports] Mims
Message-ID: <20070930.113338.5909.0@webmail17.dca.untd.com>

You must have left when we were up by 32 points and did not read the sports page the next day ;-)  This was the game we blew the largest lead EVER in division 1 football.

You might have been thinking the Iowa game which we dominated from down 1.

If we put together the Michigan game 1st 3 quarters I think the team will finish extremely tough against State.
-- DPENDERG@aol.com wrote:
 
Despite the positives against UM, I'm really worried about the MSU  game.  
They will be tough and eager to avenge last year's defeat.
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From nolan at romaine.tssi.com  Sun Sep 30 11:33:09 2007
From: nolan at romaine.tssi.com (Mike Nolan)
Date: Sun Sep 30 11:33:12 2007
Subject: [NU Sports] Mims (fwd)
Message-ID: <200709301633.l8UGX92S007413@romaine.tssi.com>

> Despite the positives against UM, I'm really worried about the MSU  game.  
> They will be tough and eager to avenge last year's defeat.  


Um, didn't MSU win that game last year with an NCAA record comeback?

I agree with the comment about Michigan basically overpowering the Cats 
in the 4th quarter (CJ must be in great pain today), but I recall some 
recent Cats teams that won in similarly outmanned situations.  That's what
'finishing the game' is all about.  Michigan did, Northwestern didn't.
--
Mike Nolan

From clzahn at mindspring.com  Sun Sep 30 12:14:17 2007
From: clzahn at mindspring.com (Clark Zahn)
Date: Sun Sep 30 12:08:39 2007
Subject: [NU Sports] I don't get it
In-Reply-To: <001301c8037c$a503b210$c402a8c0@DennisMachine>
References: <ca7.1b63d0d4.343113f8@aol.com>
	<001301c8037c$a503b210$c402a8c0@DennisMachine>
Message-ID: <46FFD969.6040002@mindspring.com>

Dennis W. Brandt wrote:
> Everyone is saying the Cats gave the game away.  Is everyone wearing 
> such rose-colored glasses that they missed Michigan pounding on a 
> worn-down Northwestern team in the fourth quarter?  That we played our 
> best game of the year does not change the fact that the size, speed, 
> strength, and athleticism differential finally caught up with us.  We 
> didn't give Michigan the game.  They took it.  It once more goes back 
> to talent.  They have more of it than we do.
>
> In one area we are definitely more talented than Michigan:  
> place-kicking. We finally got a good one.  Unfortunately, we're still 
> looking for a punter.
>
The turnovers contributed to the defense breaking down.  They just were 
asked to perform heroics too many times.

Clark Zahn

From sjtruog at yahoo.com  Sun Sep 30 13:51:21 2007
From: sjtruog at yahoo.com (SjT (Stephen J. Truog))
Date: Sun Sep 30 13:44:55 2007
Subject: [NU Sports] I don't get it
In-Reply-To: <001301c8037c$a503b210$c402a8c0@DennisMachine>
Message-ID: <548197.16768.qm@web52908.mail.re2.yahoo.com>

> Everyone is saying the Cats gave the game away.  Is

Four turnovers on four straight possessions in the
fourth quarter - giving Michigan four drives inside
the NU 30 yardline.

So I think it's pretty fair to say we gave this one
away.

> everyone wearing such 
> rose-colored glasses that they missed Michigan
> pounding on a worn-down 
> Northwestern team in the fourth quarter?  That we

I really didn't see that. I saw Michigan pounding on a
worn down PSU team in the second half last week, but
our D held up well. Especially given that those four
short field drives only resulted in two scores and
that Hart was only able to break that one cutback run
at the very very end of the game for 20 yards.
Otherwise, we held up well against their much bigger,
much more talented O line.

As for our O line, they did break down late - but we
still didn't have to give them short fields and easy
scores at the end of the game. We still had our
receivers consistently beating them for 12 yard
catches on 3rd and 10. But the Michigan blitz did get
to us late.

> We didn't give Michigan 
> the game.  They took it.  It once more goes back to
> talent.  They have more 
> of it than we do.

That's the case every time we play Michigan. It was
the case last week and we buckled to it early and
often. But yesterday against Michigan, our effort more
than matched their talent edge and we just gave away
the game in the fourth.

I don't know what else you call four turnovers on our
final four possessions. And most of those weren't even
the D taking it away. The tipped pass was a bad throw
that bounced off our hands into theirs. Two fumbles
were sloppy and loose carrying of the ball. Only the
blindside blitz that popped it out of CJ's hands and
was picked off was really the D making a play. We gave
it to 'em.

Whatever the case, it's two straight home games where
we outplayed the opposition and lost. We can't let any
more wins slip out of our hands. I agree that MSU is a
crucial game. We've moved the ball well on the
Spartans in the past but this is a different coach and
different team. They put a lot more pressure on the
QB, so we'll have to protect better and get rid of the
ball quicker. Hopefully they'll overlook us or still
be moping about the game in Madison and we can jump
out early to build up our confidence and shake theirs.
It's certainly a game we can win - but we gotta finish
the job this time.

GO CATS!!!
-SjT

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From johnl at mac.com  Sun Sep 30 14:22:48 2007
From: johnl at mac.com (John Labbe)
Date: Sun Sep 30 14:16:24 2007
Subject: [NU Sports] I don't get it
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On Sep 30, 2007, at 1:51 PM, SjT (Stephen J. Truog) wrote:

> ***** Only the
> blindside blitz that popped it out of CJ's hands and
> was picked off was really the D making a play. We gave
> it to 'em.
>
>

I agree, and after that particular turnover, our D stopped Michigan for 
no points, despite the short field.


From rstetson at capps-assoc.com  Sun Sep 30 21:52:12 2007
From: rstetson at capps-assoc.com (Roy Lamberton)
Date: Sun Sep 30 21:45:24 2007
Subject: [NU Sports] Defense
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We play them off because we feel they are that much faster than our guys - if we
could go stride for stride, we'd run man coverage.

The Cats play a lot of zone. Those coverages are off the WR because they're
protecting an area, not that particular player.

rsl

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> Sent: Saturday, September 29, 2007 5:27 PM
> To: nwu-sports@romaine.tssi.com
> Subject: [NU Sports] Defense
> 
> I have yet to understand why the defense plays wide receivers  ten yard
> away instead of close to the line of scrimmage.  It just about guarantees
> them at least five yards or more on each reception.  IN my opinion that i
> main resson that teams get big plays against us.  Maybe I'm nuts but that's
> my  view.
> 
> Both Illinois and Indiana proved today that they won't be push overs any
> more.
> 
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From rstetson at capps-assoc.com  Sun Sep 30 21:52:37 2007
From: rstetson at capps-assoc.com (Roy Lamberton)
Date: Sun Sep 30 21:54:04 2007
Subject: [NU Sports] Kitty cats???
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But from our won network?

rsl

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> -----Original Message-----
> From: nwu-sports-bounces@tssi.com [mailto:nwu-sports-bounces@tssi.com] On
> Behalf Of johnadeg@comcast.net
> Sent: Saturday, September 29, 2007 5:35 PM
> To: Mike Nolan; nwu-sports@romaine.tssi.com
> Subject: Re: [NU Sports] Kitty cats???
> 
> Until NU starts winning more games and has a stadium that has more fans
> from the visiting school than NU fans, we can expect derogatory comments
> like "kitty cats"
> 
> John DeGroat
>  -------------- Original message ----------------------
> From: Mike Nolan <nolan@romaine.tssi.com>
> > ESPN just showed Conteh's TD run (which looked great), but then followed
> that
> > up with this asinine remark:  "The kitty cats are making some noise."
> > --
> > Mike Nolan
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From spiritu at northwestern.edu  Sun Sep 30 22:06:33 2007
From: spiritu at northwestern.edu (Jonathan Michael Hawkins)
Date: Sun Sep 30 22:00:23 2007
Subject: [NU Sports] Defense
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Well, whatever the excuse or explanation, from I sit in Section 226, it
isn't working.  And it hasn't been for about 8 years now.  Opposing coaches'
inexplicable unwillingness to throw 8 yard pass to the flats after 8 yard
pass to the flats doesn't really factor into whether or not our defense is
any good.  The schemes are bad.  The defensive secondary is beyond
terrible.  Good high school tacklers come into our system and leave as
terrible, terrible tacklers.  These are signs of poor coaching.  Nothing a
little mid-season coaching-staff shakeup can't fix.

Jonathan

On 9/30/07, Roy Lamberton <rstetson@capps-assoc.com> wrote:
>
> We play them off because we feel they are that much faster than our guys -
> if we
> could go stride for stride, we'd run man coverage.
>
> The Cats play a lot of zone. Those coverages are off the WR because
> they're
> protecting an area, not that particular player.
>
> rsl
>
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> The Scout.com Northwestern University Site
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>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: nwu-sports-bounces@tssi.com [mailto:nwu-sports-bounces@tssi.com]
> On
> > Behalf Of johnadeg@comcast.net
> > Sent: Saturday, September 29, 2007 5:27 PM
> > To: nwu-sports@romaine.tssi.com
> > Subject: [NU Sports] Defense
> >
> > I have yet to understand why the defense plays wide receivers  ten yard
> > away instead of close to the line of scrimmage.  It just about
> guarantees
> > them at least five yards or more on each reception.  IN my opinion that
> i
> > main resson that teams get big plays against us.  Maybe I'm nuts but
> that's
> > my  view.
> >
> > Both Illinois and Indiana proved today that they won't be push overs any
> > more.
> >
> > John DeGroat
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