[NU Sports] RE: nwu-sports Digest, Vol 4, Issue 340

Mon Nov 26 05:58:20 CST 2007

Does anyone really want our Cats to sneak into a bowl this year -- and lose
again? Sure, we might have an advantage on paper, but that pathetic loss to
Duke plus our chokes against Purdue and Iowa just leave a bad taste in my
mouth for the 2007 season. Let's save our energy for next year.

Dennis 

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Today's Topics:

   1. Re: Bowl eligible teams (Jonathan Hodges)
   2. Re: Basketball (fwd) (SjT (Stephen J. Truog))
   3. Re: Basketball (fwd) (Hakirsch at aol.com)

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Message: 1
Date: Sun, 25 Nov 2007 20:54:44 -0600
From: "Jonathan Hodges" <jonathanwhodges at gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [NU Sports] Bowl eligible teams
To: "Mike Nolan" <nolan at romaine.tssi.com>
Cc: nwu-sports at romaine.tssi.com
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If Hawaii loses, it's almost guaranteed that Illinois will get into a BCS
bowl, thereby bumping everyone "up" a spot and guaranteeing all Big Ten
teams with winning records a spot in a bowl.

Anyways, the best case scenario for NU would be if Hawaii does lose, giving
the Big Ten, Big 12, SEC, and Pac-10 an extra "at-large" BCS spot - which
would open up 2 "at-large" bowl bids (Texas Bowl's Big 12 spot and Bell
Helicopter Armed Forces Bowl's Pac-10 spot), assuming a few more things
happen, and would leave room for at least one 6-6 "at-large" bid to be
handed out.  Here's what would have to happen:

Arizona (5-6) loses to Arizona State
Hawaii (11-0) loses to Washington
Florida Atlantic (6-5) loses to Troy
Miami (OH) (6-6) loses to Central Michigan in the MAC Championship

If any of these teams wins, it will essentially close up one available spot.

If the best case scenario does happen, there will be 2 available spots, with
the following teams in competition for the spot (7-5 teams get in ahead of
6-6 teams per the bowl eligibility rules):

Iowa (6-6)
Northwestern (6-6)
Ohio (6-6)
TCU (7-5)
Alabama (6-6) OR South Carolina (6-6)
Florida Atlantic (6-6, if they lose)
Louisiana-Monroe (6-6)
Louisiana Tech OR Nevada (6-6)
Louisville (6-6 if they beat Rutgers)

So, best case scenario - NU would have to "beat out" Iowa, Alabama/South
Carolina, (potentially) Louisville, and some mid-majors in order to get a
bowl berth - a tall order but still theoretically possible.  Anyways we'll
see what the last weekend in the "year of the upset" brings.

Jonathan

On Nov 25, 2007 6:24 PM, Mike Nolan <nolan at romaine.tssi.com> wrote:

> > Navy has already committed to the Poinsettia Bowl.
> >
> >
> http://www.poinsettiabowl.net/news/navy-to-play-in-3rd-san-diego-count
> y-credit-union-poinsettia-bowl.html
>
> I'm very happy for them, they've earned it.
>
> That may affect the non-BCS conferences more than the BCS conferences, 
> though it may sink completely any chance of a 9th Big 10 team going 
> unless OSU gets into the NC game, and possibly not even then, because 
> we may not get 2 BCS slots.  If the Rose Bowl loses OSU and thus gets 
> pick of the litter, would they look towards Hawaii's fan base instead 
> of Illinois (#15 on the latest BCS list?)
> --
> Mike Nolan
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Message: 2
Date: Sun, 25 Nov 2007 20:51:27 -0800 (PST)
From: "SjT \(Stephen J. Truog\)" <sjtruog at yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: [NU Sports] Basketball (fwd)
To: "Dennis W. Brandt" <tbng at comcast.net>, nwu-sports at romaine.tssi.com
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Why pull out of the league?

NU is more than competing in football over the past
10-15 years and excelling in most other sports.

Basketball seems to be the exception, not the rule, at
this time.

I appreciate the hardcourt frustration, and an
on-campus hoops facility would be nice ... but there's
no need to throw the baby out with the bathwater and
withdraw from the league or lower our standards.

GO CATS!!!
-SjT

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STEPHEN J. TRUOG
sjtruog at yahoo.com
GO CATS!!!

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Message: 3
Date: Mon, 26 Nov 2007 00:15:35 EST
From: Hakirsch at aol.com
Subject: Re: [NU Sports] Basketball (fwd)
To: sjtruog at yahoo.com, nwu-sports at tssi.com
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In a message dated 11/25/2007 8:52:06 PM Pacific Standard Time, 
sjtruog at yahoo.com writes:

> I appreciate the hardcourt frustration, and an
> on-campus hoops facility would be nice ... but there's
> no need to throw the baby out with the bathwater and
> withdraw from the league or lower our standards.
> 
> 

I can't imagine this is even being considered,--The last time I think there 
was any serious move afoot to drop out of the BT was during the Strotz years
in 
the 70's --(and maybe with good reason, given how little NU cared about 
athletics then)  --NU will be getting a new president fairly soon and it wil
be 
intersting to see what his or her feelings will be on our overall athletic 
program--After all it was Arnold Webber --(Strotz' successor) who brought in
Gary 
Barnett

Harry

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