[NU Sports] I see an 8th Bowl spot slipping away...

Mon Nov 12 21:46:43 CST 2007

Fitz is going to be one of the great ones.

But he's still kicking his way out of the incubator - actually, I think this
year he's doing things better, and next year will be even better than last.

Both Fitz and I took over our respective teams last year. He was under .500, I
was 4-2. This year, he's at least 6-6, my kids were 0-5-1. 

The moral is that he's building on previous years, my previous year's class
graduated - they were 5-2 in middle school - and I'm back rebuilding. At least
Fitz doesn't have to start over next year.

rsl

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Roy S. Lamberton - Senior Associate
& sometime Unix Guru....
Computer Applications & Support Associates 
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: nwu-sports-bounces at tssi.com [mailto:nwu-sports-bounces at tssi.com] On
> Behalf Of neonrye at aol.com
> Sent: Monday, November 12, 2007 9:30 PM
> To: Jeff Beamsley; nwu-sports-bounces at tssi.com; nwu-sports at tssi.com
> Subject: Re: [NU Sports] I see an 8th Bowl spot slipping away...
> 
> No disrespect to Fitz, but RW is looking better and better in hindsight.
> We always got 60 minutes worth of second and third effort.  And he brought
> us a continuum of respect in the conference.  I always felt --except vs.
> OSU (and maybe Joe Pa) that we would be in the game until the end,
> regardless of the opponent.  We have that mindset with Fitz, but not to the
> same degree--yet.  Experience and a track record does count.
> 
> Paul Levinson
> Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: "Jeff Beamsley" <jeff.beamsley at hilgraeve.com>
> 
> Date: Mon, 12 Nov 2007 21:08:32
> To:<nwu-sports at tssi.com>
> Subject: RE: [NU Sports] I see an 8th Bowl spot slipping away...
> 
> 
> Roy,
> 
> Hey lighten up on my tech brother Chuck.
> 
> We tech guys aren't always known for tact, but if you want to solve hard
> problems, you have to have folks who are analytical, persistent, and
> passionate.  When it comes to NU sports, Chuck displays all of those
> admirable qualities.  I don't always agree with his conclusions either, but
> I
> welcome his posts and the detail and research that he provides to support
> his
> positions.
> 
> As far Coach Walker is concerned, we all were shocked by his sudden
> passing,
> but the nature of his death shouldn't result in his elevation to sainthood
> (no disrespect intended to either RW or saints).  We have to be careful to
> avoid the temptation to revise history in his honor.  His death didn't
> automatically make him a better coach, it just made us all realize how
> short
> life is an how we need to cherish those that are living it with us.
> 
> Jeff
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: nwu-sports-bounces at tssi.com [mailto:nwu-sports-bounces at tssi.com] On
> Behalf Of Roy Lamberton
> Sent: Monday, November 12, 2007 7:17 PM
> To: CHerron604 at aol.com; NEONRye at aol.com; johnadeg at comcast.net;
> DPENDERG at aol.com; nwu-sports at tssi.com
> Subject: RE: [NU Sports] I see an 8th Bowl spot slipping away...
> 
> I believe the saying is: "you can't go home again..."
> 
> I'd love to see Dunbar back here, but I doubt it will happen - he wants to
> be
> head coach again, that was obvious when he left and with his resume, I
> can't
> see why he's not at a Div I program - in charge right now. Had he been here
> when RW died, he'd probably be the head man right now.
> 
> As for the constant ripping of the assistants...
> 
> Jerry Brown is a long standing alum who just happens to be very good at
> working with our young black athletes. His recruiting areas dictate how
> well
> he recruits, but I know he's a presence in his areas.
> 
> McGee is turning into one of the better young OCs out there - I can see him
> leaving for another school and being the absolute spread Guru, and all of
> you
> nay sayers calling for Fitz head for letting him go.
> 
> Colby is doing the best job anyone can given the talent level. At most
> other
> schools, our kids would just now be starting to play regularly, not start.
> Our guys have been starting, getting hurt, and building strength for 3
> years.
> They are just now coming into their own.
> 
> I'm pretty sure that Colby will be moving on...Fitz will probably either
> take
> the DC job himself or give it to one of the present assistants.
> 
> In any case, I wouldn't go out and do a wholesale housecleaning. Any top
> assistant would pass on NU due to the academics. The guys we want are ones
> who are on their way up who want the challenge of building an NU type
> program. And given that Duke, Vandy and Stanford are all pretty stable
> right
> now, maybe we'll have a shot at getting one - if there are openings.
> 
> Mr. Herron is an outspoken [and maybe monotonous] critic of the present
> staff.
> I'm sure we can find e-mails where he wanted to fire Walker too. Some
> people
> always see the glass half empty.
> 
> rsl
> 
> ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
> Roy S. Lamberton - Senior Associate
> & sometime Unix Guru....
> Computer Applications & Support Associates =============  Go Cats -  Beat
> 'em
> All  ============= "You have a Republic Madam --
>      If you can keep it" - Benjamin Franklin
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> 
> 
> > -----Original Message-----
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> > Behalf Of CHerron604 at aol.com
> > Sent: Monday, November 12, 2007 6:49 PM
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> > sports at tssi.com
> > Subject: Re: [NU Sports] I see an 8th Bowl spot slipping away...
> >
> > I hate more than anything to be negative, especially this late in the
> > season.  But it seems we are burdened constantly with coaches that can't
> > coach,
> > can't recruit, can't coordinate.  This probably has alot to do with
> > terrible
> > attendance at Dyche Stadium - it is not real enjoyable to watch as late
> > 10-point
> > leads evaporate in a flash, or as silly mistakes lead to penalties that
> > are
> > unwarrented in game #11, or as a team gets into the red zone, and can't
> > fathom how to punch it in to the endzone (this was also a BIG problem in
> > the  Duke
> > game).  Fans of other football programs don't seem to have to deal  with
> > all
> > this coaching incompetence, and we should expect and demand  better.
> >
> > We as a University would never build our Chemistry faculty, or the
> Cardiac
> > Surgery staff at Northwestern Memorial in the same way we put together
> our
> > coaching staffs, but we should - look for the best people out there
> > (outstanding
> > skills and integrity), and bring them in.  RW's passing was tragic, but
> if
> > the head of the Philosophy Department passed, we would not tolerate two
> > years
> > of  departmental malaise.
> >
> > PS - Could we hope that anybody on Central St. maybe has given Mike
> Dunbar
> > a
> > call ?  He was great as our OC, then he made 2 bad decisions - going to
> > Cal
> > (allegedly to be closer to his family), then separating from Cal - to
> come
> > to
> > hopeless/hapless Minnesota ?  I know he wants to be a head coach, but
> > staying on the Gopher's sinking ship probably isn't going to help that
> > hope.  Come
> > back here, where you have had success.
> >
> > Chuck Herron   Tech '85
> >
> >
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