[NU Sports] RE: Brandon and student-on-student crimes

[warneradams]

Just off the top of my head I can remember my friends doing the following
things while I was at NU:

Cheating off each other during tests
Writing papers for other students
Pulling fire alarms at dorms and fraternity houses
Stealing a parking meter from in front of Burger King
Breaking windows on campus housing
Taking alcohol and drugs from other people's rooms
Dealing pot, cocaine, acid, mushrooms, and hash
Stealing street signs and signs from businesses
Borrowing notes because they missed a "day" and copying the entire quarter
Getting copies of tests ahead of time
Renting or buying furniture and electronics under assumed names
Tossing a television off of the top floor of Elder

Any of these will get you suspended from the basketball team and written up
in the papers.  Especially if you're a star player.  



-----Original Message-----
From: nwu-sports-bounces at tssi.com [mailto:nwu-sports-bounces at tssi.com] On
Behalf Of mlinhardt at netzero.net
Sent: Friday, February 09, 2007 6:45 AM
To: nwu-sports at romaine.tssi.com
Cc: Maureen.Linhardt at plexus.com
Subject: [NU Sports] RE: Brandon and student-on-student crimes

Warner,

Assuming the fact I consider substance abuse forgivable.  What is 
worse than stealing from other students?  

The only four "campus-related" things I can think of off hand are 
sexual assault of fellow students, physical assault of fellow 
students, dealing drugs on campus, or possibly cheating their way 
through NU.  Could you give examples of "much worse" without ratting 
out on your friends?

-- "warneradams" <warneradams at comcast.net> wrote:
I suppose although my friends did much worse at NU and no one cared 
because
they weren't athletes.  They turned out to be good law-abiding people.

-----Original Message-----
From: nwu-sports-bounces at tssi.com [mailto:nwu-sports-bounces at tssi.com] 
On
Behalf Of Hakirsch at aol.com
Sent: Thursday, February 08, 2007 12:04 PM
To: nwu-sports at romaine.tssi.com
Subject: [NU Sports] (no subject)

 
I  disagree completely.

I feel bad for him, but his mistakes were pretty  big.

The substance abuse I can forgive, but bringing back an athlete  with 
a 
breaking and entry conviction(especially in campus housing) is not  
the 
message NU wants to send out to perspective students.  Campus  safety 
is already an important issue and this would aggravate the  issue.



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I agree with most of  the others here.  Every institution in  America 
seems 
to give 2nd chances-(in my mind ,unfortunately 3rd and 4th chances  as 
well--see NBA, MLB, etc, etc) -NU would be  setting a higher 
statndard  by
requiring 
that there is some evidence that he has learned and desreves a 2nd  
chance,
not 
just to give a second chance--Do it with a zero and i mean zero  
tolerance 
level--Heck even IU gave the General a 2nd chance (and he was quite a  
bit
older 
when he made his mistakes-)- and throwing a plate or a vase at a
secretary's 
head is more egregious than breaking and entering--not to mention  
about a 
half dozen other mistakes made by Knight for whcih he was given another
chance
 
Harry

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