From jleonard518 at yahoo.com  Thu Aug  2 06:20:58 2007
From: jleonard518 at yahoo.com (Jim Leonard)
Date: Thu Aug  2 06:18:52 2007
Subject: [NU Sports] Is the ESPN Game Plan worth it?
Message-ID: <776527.82374.qm@web36808.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

Fellow Wildcat Faithful,

In a few weeks I am making the switch to DirecTV so that I will have access to the Big Ten Network. Comcast may ultimately carry it, but I have learned over the years not to trust that company. 

So now the question is, do I pay the additional $110 for a season of ESPN Game Plan. Prior to the BTN, traditional cable would get you ABC, ESPN, and ESPN2. Then, the additional Big Ten games might be on ESPNU and ESPN+ which you needed the Game Plan to access. With the new BTN network, what is the pecking order of which games will be available on which networks? 

I have looked at information on the BTN website, the DirecTV website, and the ESPN website and no one seems to be able to explain this. Any help would be appreciated.

Victory & Honor,
Jim


       
____________________________________________________________________________________
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From jonathanwhodges at gmail.com  Thu Aug  2 06:35:21 2007
From: jonathanwhodges at gmail.com (Jonathan Hodges)
Date: Thu Aug  2 06:33:31 2007
Subject: [NU Sports] Is the ESPN Game Plan worth it?
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The short answer is no - since ESPN GamePlan will no longer carry many Big
Ten games (no B10 home games in fact).

The pecking order of B10 home games is now: ABC, ESPN/ESPN2, then the BTN
will carry the remainder of the B10 home games.  This means some games will
be multiplexed - in other words will be on at the same time and your local
operator will have the choice of either carrying multiple games (as the case
will probably be on DirecTV) or carrying one "regional" game.  Other games
may then be played on tape delay.  It sounds like DirecTV will be the only
one offering multiple simultaneous game feeds starting out.

In terms of away games, it's all up to that conference.  The only non B10
home game for NU is at EMU which will be carried by ESPNU - which is on
DirecTV's sports tier (extra charge).  Other than that all NU games will be
on ABC/ESPN/ESPN2 or the BTN.

Moving to DirecTV is the only option to get NU games for the vast majority
of people.  For those of us in the Chicago area, even us in Evanston, we are
out in the cold if we don't switch to satellite (which many are not able to
do if you live in an apt. building and can't get approval for the dish).
DirecTV is cheaper, apparently has better customer service, and has the BTN,
but almost everyone is locked into the likes of Comcast - who is embattled
with the BTN over which tier of service the network will be placed into.

My personal opinion is that both sides are to blame - the BTN for their
stubborn insistence that they are a national network and should be on a
normal tier (they're regional whether we like it or not) - and
Comcast/TimeWarner/etc. for not making a deal happen for the sake of their
customers.  I know many of us are more than willing to pay extra to watch NU
football and if any pay option was offered it is much better than leaving us
in the dark.

Jonathan


On 8/2/07, Jim Leonard <jleonard518@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> Fellow Wildcat Faithful,
>
> In a few weeks I am making the switch to DirecTV so that I will have
> access to the Big Ten Network. Comcast may ultimately carry it, but I have
> learned over the years not to trust that company.
>
> So now the question is, do I pay the additional $110 for a season of ESPN
> Game Plan. Prior to the BTN, traditional cable would get you ABC, ESPN, and
> ESPN2. Then, the additional Big Ten games might be on ESPNU and ESPN+ which
> you needed the Game Plan to access. With the new BTN network, what is the
> pecking order of which games will be available on which networks?
>
> I have looked at information on the BTN website, the DirecTV website, and
> the ESPN website and no one seems to be able to explain this. Any help would
> be appreciated.
>
> Victory & Honor,
> Jim
>
>
>
>
> ____________________________________________________________________________________
> Boardwalk for $500? In 2007? Ha! Play Monopoly Here and Now (it's updated
> for today's economy) at Yahoo! Games.
> http://get.games.yahoo.com/proddesc?gamekey=monopolyherenow
>
> _______________________________________________
> nwu-sports site list
> nwu-sports@tssi.com
> http://romaine.tssi.com/mailman/listinfo/nwu-sports
>



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Evanston, IL  60201-3577
(847) 736-2449
jonathanwhodges@gmail.com
From neonrye at aol.com  Thu Aug  2 08:11:26 2007
From: neonrye at aol.com (neonrye@aol.com)
Date: Thu Aug  2 08:10:20 2007
Subject: [NU Sports] Is the ESPN Game Plan worth it?
In-Reply-To: <fcb3ee270708020435l495784f4raa650f6518b799af@mail.gmail.com>
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Anybody know what the story is with my beloved Cablevision in NYC metro area and BTN?
Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry

-----Original Message-----
From: "Jonathan Hodges" <jonathanwhodges@gmail.com>

Date: Thu, 2 Aug 2007 06:35:21 
To:"Jim Leonard" <jleonard518@yahoo.com>
Cc:nwu-sports@tssi.com
Subject: Re: [NU Sports] Is the ESPN Game Plan worth it?


The short answer is no - since ESPN GamePlan will no longer carry many Big
Ten games (no B10 home games in fact).

The pecking order of B10 home games is now: ABC, ESPN/ESPN2, then the BTN
will carry the remainder of the B10 home games.  This means some games will
be multiplexed - in other words will be on at the same time and your local
operator will have the choice of either carrying multiple games (as the case
will probably be on DirecTV) or carrying one "regional" game.  Other games
may then be played on tape delay.  It sounds like DirecTV will be the only
one offering multiple simultaneous game feeds starting out.

In terms of away games, it's all up to that conference.  The only non B10
home game for NU is at EMU which will be carried by ESPNU - which is on
DirecTV's sports tier (extra charge).  Other than that all NU games will be
on ABC/ESPN/ESPN2 or the BTN.

Moving to DirecTV is the only option to get NU games for the vast majority
of people.  For those of us in the Chicago area, even us in Evanston, we are
out in the cold if we don't switch to satellite (which many are not able to
do if you live in an apt. building and can't get approval for the dish).
DirecTV is cheaper, apparently has better customer service, and has the BTN,
but almost everyone is locked into the likes of Comcast - who is embattled
with the BTN over which tier of service the network will be placed into.

My personal opinion is that both sides are to blame - the BTN for their
stubborn insistence that they are a national network and should be on a
normal tier (they're regional whether we like it or not) - and
Comcast/TimeWarner/etc. for not making a deal happen for the sake of their
customers.  I know many of us are more than willing to pay extra to watch NU
football and if any pay option was offered it is much better than leaving us
in the dark.

Jonathan


On 8/2/07, Jim Leonard <jleonard518@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> Fellow Wildcat Faithful,
>
> In a few weeks I am making the switch to DirecTV so that I will have
> access to the Big Ten Network. Comcast may ultimately carry it, but I have
> learned over the years not to trust that company.
>
> So now the question is, do I pay the additional $110 for a season of ESPN
> Game Plan. Prior to the BTN, traditional cable would get you ABC, ESPN, and
> ESPN2. Then, the additional Big Ten games might be on ESPNU and ESPN+ which
> you needed the Game Plan to access. With the new BTN network, what is the
> pecking order of which games will be available on which networks?
>
> I have looked at information on the BTN website, the DirecTV website, and
> the ESPN website and no one seems to be able to explain this. Any help would
> be appreciated.
>
> Victory & Honor,
> Jim
>
>
>
>
> ____________________________________________________________________________________
> Boardwalk for $500? In 2007? Ha! Play Monopoly Here and Now (it's updated
> for today's economy) at Yahoo! Games.
> http://get.games.yahoo.com/proddesc?gamekey=monopolyherenow
>
> _______________________________________________
> nwu-sports site list
> nwu-sports@tssi.com
> http://romaine.tssi.com/mailman/listinfo/nwu-sports
>



-- 
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1237 Emerson St Apt 2
Evanston, IL  60201-3577
(847) 736-2449
jonathanwhodges@gmail.com
_______________________________________________
nwu-sports site list
nwu-sports@tssi.com
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From sjtruog at yahoo.com  Thu Aug  2 08:20:49 2007
From: sjtruog at yahoo.com (SjT (Stephen J. Truog))
Date: Thu Aug  2 08:18:37 2007
Subject: [NU Sports] Is the ESPN Game Plan worth it?
In-Reply-To: <fcb3ee270708020435l495784f4raa650f6518b799af@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <959038.22773.qm@web52912.mail.re2.yahoo.com>

> The short answer is no - since ESPN GamePlan will no
> longer carry many Big

That's right. Gameplan won't be worth it - you can
always do it ala carte for one week if there's a
non-BT game you want to see.

But if you have the basic DirecTV package, you'll have
ABC, ESPN/ESPN2 and the BTN, which should have all of
your Wildcat and conference needs! And yes, DTV has
said they will carry the multiple games simultaneously
on overflow channels. But the only weeks that will
really matter is during the NC slate. Plus, all BTN
games will be replayed later in the week if you missed
it.

> In terms of away games, it's all up to that
> conference.  The only non B10
> home game for NU is at EMU which will be carried by
> ESPNU - which is on

And even there, you don't have to do anything now.
With DirecTV, you can just go online (or call) and add
the sports package right before the game and cancel it
after and pay only a fraction of the montly cost of
the sports package (though it's $12 or so per month,
so if you love the Pac 10 games late night on the Fox
Sports Networks, you may just want it for the month).

> of people.  For those of us in the Chicago area,
> even us in Evanston, we are
> out in the cold if we don't switch to satellite

I feel for those unable to make the switch ... but I
would hope that "hometowns" like Evanston would have
some non-cable access like maybe CBS2 picking up the
game or something (probably not NC ones, but maybe
during the season ... though they'll probably pick up
the Friggin' Illini instead!).

I still think it's just posturing ... after a week or
two of residents across Pennsylvania, Ohio, Wisconsin,
Michigan, etc. missing games and calling Comcast and
BTN, there will be some agreement worked out.

GO CATS!!!
-SjT

PS - The Big Ten Network announced last week that last
year's "1 vs. 2" OSU/Michigan game will be the first
of their "classic" replay football series for the
fall, with 24 games from all schools featured. No word
on what NU games will be chosen, but you gotta think
it's a long list in recent years.

You can also go to the BTN Web site and see some
"localized" school content now - from the NU football
previews to commercials for the network for each
school (NU's will be the second to last unveiled, so
it's not up yet).

* * * * * * * * *
STEPHEN J. TRUOG
sjtruog@yahoo.com
GO CATS!!!


       
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From jonathanwhodges at gmail.com  Thu Aug  2 08:24:27 2007
From: jonathanwhodges at gmail.com (Jonathan Hodges)
Date: Thu Aug  2 08:22:32 2007
Subject: [NU Sports] Is the ESPN Game Plan worth it?
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My guess is that it's a no as well, but you can always check here:
http://www.bigtennetwork.com/

Basically at this point the BTN is carried by DirecTV and a bunch of
minor/small town cable operators.  They do not have an agreement with any of
the big cable companies (Comcast, TimeWarner, MediaComm, Cablevision, etc.),
and the BTN and Comcast have had a war of words over the past few months as
well.

It will probably be next summer before things happen with a lot of these
cable companies.  The NFL Network tried a similar play - requiring its
channel to be carried on the basic tier of service while the operators
wanted it on the sports tier.  After about a year (with many carriers
refusing to carry it at all), the network gave in and allowed its channel to
be put on the sports tier - which virtually every operator did.  Note that
Comcast did carry the NFL Network on the digital standard tier but then
moved it to the sports tier (extra charge) last year.  I expect that a
similar situation will happen with the BTN.

The fact is that the BTN cannot survive without its largest fan base - and
that is here in the Chicago area.  Alums from virtually every B10 school
congregate here and unless they get Comcast and RCN to carry the BTN they
are without their largest market.  The entire city of Chicago is not going
to switch to DirecTV for one football game (especially since many of them
can't due to dish restrictions).

Jonathan

On 8/2/07, neonrye@aol.com <neonrye@aol.com> wrote:
>
> Anybody know what the story is with my beloved Cablevision in NYC metro
> area and BTN?
> Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: "Jonathan Hodges" <jonathanwhodges@gmail.com>
>
> Date: Thu, 2 Aug 2007 06:35:21
> To:"Jim Leonard" <jleonard518@yahoo.com>
> Cc:nwu-sports@tssi.com
> Subject: Re: [NU Sports] Is the ESPN Game Plan worth it?
>
>
> The short answer is no - since ESPN GamePlan will no longer carry many Big
> Ten games (no B10 home games in fact).
>
> The pecking order of B10 home games is now: ABC, ESPN/ESPN2, then the BTN
> will carry the remainder of the B10 home games.  This means some games
> will
> be multiplexed - in other words will be on at the same time and your local
> operator will have the choice of either carrying multiple games (as the
> case
> will probably be on DirecTV) or carrying one "regional" game.  Other games
> may then be played on tape delay.  It sounds like DirecTV will be the only
> one offering multiple simultaneous game feeds starting out.
>
> In terms of away games, it's all up to that conference.  The only non B10
> home game for NU is at EMU which will be carried by ESPNU - which is on
> DirecTV's sports tier (extra charge).  Other than that all NU games will
> be
> on ABC/ESPN/ESPN2 or the BTN.
>
> Moving to DirecTV is the only option to get NU games for the vast majority
> of people.  For those of us in the Chicago area, even us in Evanston, we
> are
> out in the cold if we don't switch to satellite (which many are not able
> to
> do if you live in an apt. building and can't get approval for the dish).
> DirecTV is cheaper, apparently has better customer service, and has the
> BTN,
> but almost everyone is locked into the likes of Comcast - who is embattled
> with the BTN over which tier of service the network will be placed into.
>
> My personal opinion is that both sides are to blame - the BTN for their
> stubborn insistence that they are a national network and should be on a
> normal tier (they're regional whether we like it or not) - and
> Comcast/TimeWarner/etc. for not making a deal happen for the sake of their
> customers.  I know many of us are more than willing to pay extra to watch
> NU
> football and if any pay option was offered it is much better than leaving
> us
> in the dark.
>
> Jonathan
>
>
> On 8/2/07, Jim Leonard <jleonard518@yahoo.com> wrote:
> >
> > Fellow Wildcat Faithful,
> >
> > In a few weeks I am making the switch to DirecTV so that I will have
> > access to the Big Ten Network. Comcast may ultimately carry it, but I
> have
> > learned over the years not to trust that company.
> >
> > So now the question is, do I pay the additional $110 for a season of
> ESPN
> > Game Plan. Prior to the BTN, traditional cable would get you ABC, ESPN,
> and
> > ESPN2. Then, the additional Big Ten games might be on ESPNU and ESPN+
> which
> > you needed the Game Plan to access. With the new BTN network, what is
> the
> > pecking order of which games will be available on which networks?
> >
> > I have looked at information on the BTN website, the DirecTV website,
> and
> > the ESPN website and no one seems to be able to explain this. Any help
> would
> > be appreciated.
> >
> > Victory & Honor,
> > Jim
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> ____________________________________________________________________________________
> > Boardwalk for $500? In 2007? Ha! Play Monopoly Here and Now (it's
> updated
> > for today's economy) at Yahoo! Games.
> > http://get.games.yahoo.com/proddesc?gamekey=monopolyherenow
> >
> > _______________________________________________
> > nwu-sports site list
> > nwu-sports@tssi.com
> > http://romaine.tssi.com/mailman/listinfo/nwu-sports
> >
>
>
>
> --
> Jonathan W. Hodges
> 1237 Emerson St Apt 2
> Evanston, IL  60201-3577
> (847) 736-2449
> jonathanwhodges@gmail.com
> _______________________________________________
> nwu-sports site list
> nwu-sports@tssi.com
> http://romaine.tssi.com/mailman/listinfo/nwu-sports
>



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Evanston, IL  60201-3577
(847) 736-2449
jonathanwhodges@gmail.com
From tbng at comcast.net  Thu Aug  2 09:10:34 2007
From: tbng at comcast.net (Dennis W. Brandt)
Date: Thu Aug  2 09:09:07 2007
Subject: [NU Sports] Is the ESPN Game Plan worth it?
References: <776527.82374.qm@web36808.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <000c01c7d50e$e51e86f0$c402a8c0@DennisMachine>

No, don't pay for an annual subscription if you're only getting it for one 
team's games.  Whenever ESPN Game Plan was the only way to see a 
Northwestern game I just rented it that one day.  At most I paid twice a 
year.  As I understand it, the Big 10 Net will have all the games on 
multiple feeds to deal with the simultaneously-scheduled games.

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Jim Leonard" <jleonard518@yahoo.com>
To: <nwu-sports@tssi.com>
Sent: Thursday, August 02, 2007 7:20 AM
Subject: [NU Sports] Is the ESPN Game Plan worth it?


> Fellow Wildcat Faithful,
>
> In a few weeks I am making the switch to DirecTV so that I will have 
> access to the Big Ten Network. Comcast may ultimately carry it, but I have 
> learned over the years not to trust that company.
>
> So now the question is, do I pay the additional $110 for a season of ESPN 
> Game Plan. Prior to the BTN, traditional cable would get you ABC, ESPN, 
> and ESPN2. Then, the additional Big Ten games might be on ESPNU and ESPN+ 
> which you needed the Game Plan to access. With the new BTN network, what 
> is the pecking order of which games will be available on which networks?
>
> I have looked at information on the BTN website, the DirecTV website, and 
> the ESPN website and no one seems to be able to explain this. Any help 
> would be appreciated.
>
> Victory & Honor,
> Jim
>
>
>
> ____________________________________________________________________________________
> Boardwalk for $500? In 2007? Ha! Play Monopoly Here and Now (it's updated 
> for today's economy) at Yahoo! Games.
> http://get.games.yahoo.com/proddesc?gamekey=monopolyherenow
>
> _______________________________________________
> nwu-sports site list
> nwu-sports@tssi.com
> http://romaine.tssi.com/mailman/listinfo/nwu-sports 

From tbng at comcast.net  Thu Aug  2 09:16:06 2007
From: tbng at comcast.net (Dennis W. Brandt)
Date: Thu Aug  2 09:14:36 2007
Subject: [NU Sports] PS on DirecTV
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ESPNU is on DirecTV's sports package.  Let's deluge them with demands to put 
it on a standard package.  In the meantime, to get the EMU game subscribe to 
the sports package for one month, the minimum time required, which about the 
same price as one day of ESPN Game Plan.  You will enjoy the wonders of 
seeing the same program broadcast simultaneously on nine different channels. 

From rstetson at capps-assoc.com  Thu Aug  2 09:57:04 2007
From: rstetson at capps-assoc.com (Roy Lamberton)
Date: Thu Aug  2 09:49:55 2007
Subject: [NU Sports] PS on DirecTV
In-Reply-To: <001801c7d50f$aa80ec30$c402a8c0@DennisMachine>
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	<001801c7d50f$aa80ec30$c402a8c0@DennisMachine>
Message-ID: <003301c7d515$65005aa0$2f010fe0$@com>

I can't imagine that the CSTV guys won't demand the ability to put it on their
subscription video service if the Cable guys don't come around.

NUSports.com already has video capability - actually quite good when they put
things up - and grabbing the Big 10 feed would be easy.

Of course CSTV is owned by the Tiffany Network, Big 10 is tied in with Fox - a
mortal enemy.

rsl

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> -----Original Message-----
> From: nwu-sports-bounces@tssi.com [mailto:nwu-sports-bounces@tssi.com] On
> Behalf Of Dennis W. Brandt
> Sent: Thursday, August 02, 2007 10:16 AM
> To: nwu-sports@tssi.com
> Subject: [NU Sports] PS on DirecTV
> 
> ESPNU is on DirecTV's sports package.  Let's deluge them with demands to
> put
> it on a standard package.  In the meantime, to get the EMU game subscribe
> to
> the sports package for one month, the minimum time required, which about
> the
> same price as one day of ESPN Game Plan.  You will enjoy the wonders of
> seeing the same program broadcast simultaneously on nine different
> channels.
> 
> _______________________________________________
> nwu-sports site list
> nwu-sports@tssi.com
> http://romaine.tssi.com/mailman/listinfo/nwu-sports

From warneradams at comcast.net  Thu Aug  2 20:38:32 2007
From: warneradams at comcast.net (warneradams)
Date: Thu Aug  2 20:36:55 2007
Subject: [NU Sports] Is the ESPN Game Plan worth it?
In-Reply-To: <776527.82374.qm@web36808.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <20070803013905.1E5DA1C1ED@gw.tssi.com>

I love Game Plan and I think it's worth it but I love all college football
and enjoy watching and TIVOing games from other parts of the country -
especially when ABC preempts the best 2:30 game for my region's game. 

-----Original Message-----
From: nwu-sports-bounces@tssi.com [mailto:nwu-sports-bounces@tssi.com] On
Behalf Of Jim Leonard
Sent: Thursday, August 02, 2007 6:21 AM
To: nwu-sports@tssi.com
Subject: [NU Sports] Is the ESPN Game Plan worth it?

Fellow Wildcat Faithful,

In a few weeks I am making the switch to DirecTV so that I will have access
to the Big Ten Network. Comcast may ultimately carry it, but I have learned
over the years not to trust that company. 

So now the question is, do I pay the additional $110 for a season of ESPN
Game Plan. Prior to the BTN, traditional cable would get you ABC, ESPN, and
ESPN2. Then, the additional Big Ten games might be on ESPNU and ESPN+ which
you needed the Game Plan to access. With the new BTN network, what is the
pecking order of which games will be available on which networks? 

I have looked at information on the BTN website, the DirecTV website, and
the ESPN website and no one seems to be able to explain this. Any help would
be appreciated.

Victory & Honor,
Jim


       
____________________________________________________________________________
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From sjtruog at yahoo.com  Thu Aug  9 01:41:57 2007
From: sjtruog at yahoo.com (SjT (Stephen J. Truog))
Date: Thu Aug  9 01:39:15 2007
Subject: [NU Sports] Get the purple blood pumpin' ...
Message-ID: <44842.58645.qm@web52912.mail.re2.yahoo.com>

I hadn't checked in with the Big Ten site since the NU
commercial was added - love it! I like how OSU, Wisky
and Purdue also featured the bands, but the Cats have
it all - including Noah's OT TD to knock off the
Bucks.

http://www.bigtennetwork.com/managex/index.asp?ArticleSource=431

Less than a month!!!

GO CATS!!!
-SjT

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From MHRJGScott at aol.com  Thu Aug  9 01:49:32 2007
From: MHRJGScott at aol.com (MHRJGScott@aol.com)
Date: Thu Aug  9 01:50:39 2007
Subject: [NU Sports] Get the purple blood pumpin' ...
Message-ID: <ce8.1675ca90.33ec12fc@aol.com>

Got me going, even at 3 AM, back from the Galway races, and not even a  
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From thiegs at umn.edu  Thu Aug  9 08:47:53 2007
From: thiegs at umn.edu (Joe Thiegs)
Date: Thu Aug  9 08:49:04 2007
Subject: [NU Sports] Get the purple blood pumpin' ...
In-Reply-To: <44842.58645.qm@web52912.mail.re2.yahoo.com>
References: <44842.58645.qm@web52912.mail.re2.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <000901c7da8b$e2b376f0$fb326580@mnfound.umn.edu>

Those are great!  I thought all of them were excellent . . . except the one
for Iowa.  Even that wasn't a bad commercial, but it didn't really have
anything specific to the school (other than the emblem), as each of the
other commercials did.

Main lesson learned:  Don't ever have surgery in Madison on a fall Saturday.

-Joe

-----Original Message-----
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Behalf Of SjT (Stephen J. Truog)
Sent: Thursday, August 09, 2007 1:42 AM
To: nwu-sports@tssi.com
Subject: [NU Sports] Get the purple blood pumpin' ...

I hadn't checked in with the Big Ten site since the NU
commercial was added - love it! I like how OSU, Wisky
and Purdue also featured the bands, but the Cats have
it all - including Noah's OT TD to knock off the
Bucks.

http://www.bigtennetwork.com/managex/index.asp?ArticleSource=431

Less than a month!!!

GO CATS!!!
-SjT

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From jleonard518 at yahoo.com  Fri Aug 10 15:54:50 2007
From: jleonard518 at yahoo.com (Jim Leonard)
Date: Fri Aug 10 15:52:07 2007
Subject: [NU Sports] ABC regional games
Message-ID: <818585.41163.qm@web36801.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

Fellow Wildcat Faithful,

I've got all the details on ESPN Game Plan, but I'm still not clear on one issue. If the ESPN Game Plan isn't showing any Big Ten home games this season, then how do people who live outside of the Midwest see the ABC 3:30 PM Eastern game if it's on a regional split?

So, if NU vs. tOSU happened to be the ABC regional game, it won't be shown on ABC in Nashville. Last year, ESPN Game Plan would have solved that problem. Am I out of luck this year?

Regards,
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From jthiegs at goldengate.net  Fri Aug 10 16:01:47 2007
From: jthiegs at goldengate.net (Joe Thiegs)
Date: Fri Aug 10 16:01:08 2007
Subject: [NU Sports] ABC regional games
In-Reply-To: <818585.41163.qm@web36801.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
References: <818585.41163.qm@web36801.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <46BCD23B.4080902@goldengate.net>

Jim:  That's where the Big Ten Network steps in (I think).  My 
understanding is that there no longer will be Big Ten games on ESPN Game 
Plan generally.  Either ABC, ESPN, ESPN2, ESPNU, or Big Ten Network.  I 
could be missing something there.  -Joe

Jim Leonard wrote:
> Fellow Wildcat Faithful,
>
> I've got all the details on ESPN Game Plan, but I'm still not clear on one issue. If the ESPN Game Plan isn't showing any Big Ten home games this season, then how do people who live outside of the Midwest see the ABC 3:30 PM Eastern game if it's on a regional split?
>
> So, if NU vs. tOSU happened to be the ABC regional game, it won't be shown on ABC in Nashville. Last year, ESPN Game Plan would have solved that problem. Am I out of luck this year?
>
> Regards,
> Jim
>
>
>        
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From Alan.Abrahamson at nbcsports.com  Fri Aug 10 16:18:14 2007
From: Alan.Abrahamson at nbcsports.com (Abrahamson, Alan (NBC Universal))
Date: Fri Aug 10 16:16:36 2007
Subject: [NU Sports] Big Ten Network "highlights"
Message-ID: <33C4F11DF8639640A51C79CB484166FF031D1D89@RKFMLVEM02.e2k.ad.ge.com>

One of the funniest columns you'll ever read:
http://chicagosports.chicagotribune.com/sports/college/cs-070808downey,1
,6953838.column?coll=cs-college-headlines
 Pay special attention to the length of the Indiana fb highlights show.
 Feeling very positive about the 2007 Wildcat fb team. Purple to
Pasadena!
 - Alan
 
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From s.fridley at comcast.net  Fri Aug 10 16:35:52 2007
From: s.fridley at comcast.net (s.fridley@comcast.net)
Date: Fri Aug 10 16:33:46 2007
Subject: [NU Sports] ABC regional games
Message-ID: <081020072135.10847.46BCDA380008516C00002A5F2200750438970A040B079D00D29C@comcast.net>

My understanding is a little different.  Gameplan still includes the Big Ten conference in its advertising.  Additionally, its FAQ (on DirecTV's website) states that Gameplan consists of two major components:  the regionalized ABC games (like OSU/Michigan) showing on ABC in some parts of the country and Gameplan in the other areas, and the regional, syndicated games (like NU/Illinois) that aren't on ABC, but were ESPN+ games that would show up sometimes on Gameplan as well as being carried over the air by local broadcasters.

So, it's the second group of games - the former ESPN+ games - that won't be around on Gameplan anymore.  If ABC has the rights to a game - which they will for OSU/Michigan, for example - it will be on ABC for much of the country and Gameplan everywhere else.

Probably those regionalized ABC games are the only Big Ten HOME games that will be on gameplan this year.


 -------------- Original message ----------------------
From: Joe Thiegs <jthiegs@goldengate.net>
> Jim:  That's where the Big Ten Network steps in (I think).  My 
> understanding is that there no longer will be Big Ten games on ESPN Game 
> Plan generally.  Either ABC, ESPN, ESPN2, ESPNU, or Big Ten Network.  I 
> could be missing something there.  -Joe
> 
> Jim Leonard wrote:
> > Fellow Wildcat Faithful,
> >
> > I've got all the details on ESPN Game Plan, but I'm still not clear on one 
> issue. If the ESPN Game Plan isn't showing any Big Ten home games this season, 
> then how do people who live outside of the Midwest see the ABC 3:30 PM Eastern 
> game if it's on a regional split?
> >
> > So, if NU vs. tOSU happened to be the ABC regional game, it won't be shown on 
> ABC in Nashville. Last year, ESPN Game Plan would have solved that problem. Am I 
> out of luck this year?
> >
> > Regards,
> > Jim
> >
> >
> >        
> > 
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From s.fridley at comcast.net  Fri Aug 10 16:38:36 2007
From: s.fridley at comcast.net (s.fridley@comcast.net)
Date: Fri Aug 10 16:36:28 2007
Subject: [NU Sports] Big Ten Network "highlights"
Message-ID: <081020072138.13613.46BCDADC000B52920000352D2200750438970A040B079D00D29C@comcast.net>

I had a different reaction.  I think the column had a lot of potential, but missed the mark on most of its attempts.


 -------------- Original message ----------------------
From: "Abrahamson, Alan (NBC Universal)" <Alan.Abrahamson@nbcsports.com>
> One of the funniest columns you'll ever read:
> http://chicagosports.chicagotribune.com/sports/college/cs-070808downey,1
> ,6953838.column?coll=cs-college-headlines
>  Pay special attention to the length of the Indiana fb highlights show.
>  Feeling very positive about the 2007 Wildcat fb team. Purple to
> Pasadena!
>  - Alan
>  
>  --
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>  
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From NEONRye at aol.com  Fri Aug 10 16:56:59 2007
From: NEONRye at aol.com (NEONRye@aol.com)
Date: Fri Aug 10 16:55:30 2007
Subject: [NU Sports] Big Ten Network "highlights"
Message-ID: <c50.1913e2c8.33ee392b@aol.com>

I beg to differ.  I agree with Alan.  My reaction was to "lol",  although I 
was laughing through my tears on "1 p.m. Highlights  of NU in NCAA basketball 
tournament", although I think alotting two minutes was  unnecessary.
 
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From clzahn at mindspring.com  Fri Aug 10 17:15:44 2007
From: clzahn at mindspring.com (Clark Zahn)
Date: Fri Aug 10 17:13:00 2007
Subject: [NU Sports] ABC regional games
Message-ID: <2363862.1186784144850.JavaMail.root@mswamui-thinleaf.atl.sa.earthlink.net>

I've also been wondering how those games would be handled.  NU probably won't be in many of them this year, though, so buying the season pass for Gameplan probably wouldn't make sense.  It would probably be cheaper to just buy the individual weeks where NU was on Game plan.

Clark Zahn

-----Original Message-----
>From: s.fridley@comcast.net
>Sent: Aug 10, 2007 2:35 PM
>To: Joe Thiegs <jthiegs@goldengate.net>, Jim Leonard <jleonard518@yahoo.com>
>Cc: nwu-sports@tssi.com
>Subject: Re: [NU Sports] ABC regional games
>
>My understanding is a little different.  Gameplan still includes the Big Ten conference in its advertising.  Additionally, its FAQ (on DirecTV's website) states that Gameplan consists of two major components:  the regionalized ABC games (like OSU/Michigan) showing on ABC in some parts of the country and Gameplan in the other areas, and the regional, syndicated games (like NU/Illinois) that aren't on ABC, but were ESPN+ games that would show up sometimes on Gameplan as well as being carried over the air by local broadcasters.
>
>So, it's the second group of games - the former ESPN+ games - that won't be around on Gameplan anymore.  If ABC has the rights to a game - which they will for OSU/Michigan, for example - it will be on ABC for much of the country and Gameplan everywhere else.
>
>Probably those regionalized ABC games are the only Big Ten HOME games that will be on gameplan this year.
>
>
> -------------- Original message ----------------------
>From: Joe Thiegs <jthiegs@goldengate.net>
>> Jim:  That's where the Big Ten Network steps in (I think).  My 
>> understanding is that there no longer will be Big Ten games on ESPN Game 
>> Plan generally.  Either ABC, ESPN, ESPN2, ESPNU, or Big Ten Network.  I 
>> could be missing something there.  -Joe
>> 
>> Jim Leonard wrote:
>> > Fellow Wildcat Faithful,
>> >
>> > I've got all the details on ESPN Game Plan, but I'm still not clear on one 
>> issue. If the ESPN Game Plan isn't showing any Big Ten home games this season, 
>> then how do people who live outside of the Midwest see the ABC 3:30 PM Eastern 
>> game if it's on a regional split?
>> >
>> > So, if NU vs. tOSU happened to be the ABC regional game, it won't be shown on 
>> ABC in Nashville. Last year, ESPN Game Plan would have solved that problem. Am I 
>> out of luck this year?
>> >
>> > Regards,
>> > Jim
>> >
>> >
>> >        
>> > 
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From johnadeg at comcast.net  Fri Aug 10 18:20:15 2007
From: johnadeg at comcast.net (johnadeg@comcast.net)
Date: Fri Aug 10 18:18:09 2007
Subject: [NU Sports] Get the purple blood pumpin' ...
Message-ID: <081020072320.11.46BCF2AF00018A370000000B2216525856090A0B0E02080106@comcast.net>

I tried to pull up the NU, Uof M, MSU and Illinois sites but all I got was a message that they ere being loaded.  I waited long enough for them to have loaded but never got anything.  Anyone have any help?  By the way the Chicago Tribune had a nice article on NU football.

John DeGroat
 -------------- Original message ----------------------
From: "SjT (Stephen J. Truog)" <sjtruog@yahoo.com>
> I hadn't checked in with the Big Ten site since the NU
> commercial was added - love it! I like how OSU, Wisky
> and Purdue also featured the bands, but the Cats have
> it all - including Noah's OT TD to knock off the
> Bucks.
> 
> http://www.bigtennetwork.com/managex/index.asp?ArticleSource=431
> 
> Less than a month!!!
> 
> GO CATS!!!
> -SjT
> 
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From thiegs at umn.edu  Sat Aug 11 16:45:50 2007
From: thiegs at umn.edu (Joe Thiegs)
Date: Sat Aug 11 16:46:43 2007
Subject: [NU Sports] ABC regional games
In-Reply-To: <081020072135.10847.46BCDA380008516C00002A5F2200750438970A040B079D00D29C@comcast.net>
References: <081020072135.10847.46BCDA380008516C00002A5F2200750438970A040B079D00D29C@comcast.net>
Message-ID: <001201c7dc60$fc82cc30$fb326580@mnfound.umn.edu>

I'd be willing to bet that Steve's understanding is better educated than
mine on this point.  I was writing based on a recollection of a post on a
message board somewhere by someone who seemed to have done some pretty
extensive research on the issue but I haven't researched it myself.  Hence,
my disclaimer at the end.  Maybe it's that we won't be able to get any Big
Ten games on GamePlan that you won't get on ABC/ESPN/ESPN2/ESPNU/BTN but
there might be Big Ten games on BTN that you can't get on GamePlan.  As a
further disclaimer, I'm just speculating again.  -Joe


-----Original Message-----
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Behalf Of s.fridley@comcast.net
Sent: Friday, August 10, 2007 4:36 PM
To: Joe Thiegs; Jim Leonard
Cc: nwu-sports@tssi.com
Subject: Re: [NU Sports] ABC regional games

My understanding is a little different.  Gameplan still includes the Big Ten
conference in its advertising.  Additionally, its FAQ (on DirecTV's website)
states that Gameplan consists of two major components:  the regionalized ABC
games (like OSU/Michigan) showing on ABC in some parts of the country and
Gameplan in the other areas, and the regional, syndicated games (like
NU/Illinois) that aren't on ABC, but were ESPN+ games that would show up
sometimes on Gameplan as well as being carried over the air by local
broadcasters.

So, it's the second group of games - the former ESPN+ games - that won't be
around on Gameplan anymore.  If ABC has the rights to a game - which they
will for OSU/Michigan, for example - it will be on ABC for much of the
country and Gameplan everywhere else.

Probably those regionalized ABC games are the only Big Ten HOME games that
will be on gameplan this year.


 -------------- Original message ----------------------
From: Joe Thiegs <jthiegs@goldengate.net>
> Jim:  That's where the Big Ten Network steps in (I think).  My 
> understanding is that there no longer will be Big Ten games on ESPN Game 
> Plan generally.  Either ABC, ESPN, ESPN2, ESPNU, or Big Ten Network.  I 
> could be missing something there.  -Joe
> 
> Jim Leonard wrote:
> > Fellow Wildcat Faithful,
> >
> > I've got all the details on ESPN Game Plan, but I'm still not clear on
one 
> issue. If the ESPN Game Plan isn't showing any Big Ten home games this
season, 
> then how do people who live outside of the Midwest see the ABC 3:30 PM
Eastern 
> game if it's on a regional split?
> >
> > So, if NU vs. tOSU happened to be the ABC regional game, it won't be
shown on 
> ABC in Nashville. Last year, ESPN Game Plan would have solved that
problem. Am I 
> out of luck this year?
> >
> > Regards,
> > Jim
> >
> >
> >        
> > 
>
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From WildElk2 at aol.com  Sat Aug 11 19:42:26 2007
From: WildElk2 at aol.com (WildElk2@aol.com)
Date: Sat Aug 11 19:41:17 2007
Subject: [NU Sports] ABC regional games
Message-ID: <c92.10209a70.33efb172@aol.com>

Joe and Friends,
 
  We're all not sure how BTN and broadcast rights will pan out .Me  thinks 
that while there isn't a conspiracy, the big 4 (Mich., OSU, Penn St.,  Wisc.) 
will see most of their games on ABC/ESPN/ESPN2, and the other 7 will  scrap for 
TV time on BTN.  
  Of course, no one will admit to this; but maybe we (maybe I?) should  
calculate who is broadcast on which network.  I think BTN will cash in on  selected 
games early in the season featuring non-competitive games featuring The  Big 
4, then the Big 4 will move to the major networks after the non-con season  is 
over.
   While I muse that last year's football games on ESPN plus  were on "free" 
TV and this year we'll pay,  it looks like our basketball  team will be on the 
tube many more times this season, as well as our "totally  excellent" women's 
lacrosse team.  As such, I'm "slightly PO'd" but still  want to give BTN a 
chance.
   That said, I'm a Comcast subscriber, and I'm shocked that no  deal has 
been made, not even on Comcast's tier stations.The past 10 years, NU  has been on 
the tube 7-9 times a year. If no deal is made between BTN and  Comcast, that 
number would be cut to 3-7, depending on our record.
   My 2007 prediction is on hold, but I think we'll be in the  first division 
barring major injuries. My prediction will be forthcoming as  Kenosha unfolds.
 
  As always,    GO  CATS!!!              Eric



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From MHRJGScott at aol.com  Sat Aug 11 21:27:42 2007
From: MHRJGScott at aol.com (MHRJGScott@aol.com)
Date: Sat Aug 11 21:28:34 2007
Subject: [NU Sports] Big Ten Network "highlights"
Message-ID: <c84.17f0722b.33efca1e@aol.com>

Pretty funny, Downey is usually glib without the bombast of Marrioti or the  
sanctity of Telender. Of course the Midwest, and BT by association has endless 
 satiric possibilities, read Garrison Keillor for more evidence.  On a more  
serious note, I think and hope that we have the best defense we have had in  
maybe 10 years, that may be the missing link for a good bowl, like here in  
Orlando.  BTW, we will have a refurbished Citrus bowl as the people have  spoken, 
mo betta football.



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From thehaze at earthlink.net  Sun Aug 12 11:50:59 2007
From: thehaze at earthlink.net (Jim Bendat)
Date: Sun Aug 12 11:48:06 2007
Subject: [NU Sports] ABC regional games
Message-ID: <7022876.1186937460216.JavaMail.root@elwamui-polski.atl.sa.earthlink.net>

Any Big Ten ABC Saturday afternoon games will be shown in out of market areas on ESPN or ESPN2.  Therefore, there will definitely be no Big Ten games on Gameplan during the 330 Eastern Time block.  We will get all those games, no matter where we live.

What I am not sure of is whether the same procedure will be followed for the regionalized Big Ten games at 8 pm Eastern Time.

From jonathanwhodges at gmail.com  Sun Aug 12 12:01:34 2007
From: jonathanwhodges at gmail.com (Jonathan Hodges)
Date: Sun Aug 12 11:58:55 2007
Subject: [NU Sports] ABC regional games
In-Reply-To: <7022876.1186937460216.JavaMail.root@elwamui-polski.atl.sa.earthlink.net>
References: <7022876.1186937460216.JavaMail.root@elwamui-polski.atl.sa.earthlink.net>
Message-ID: <fcb3ee270708121001j16f49a50le54904c52abf35c6@mail.gmail.com>

I believe the ABC Saturday night (8PM) game is a national game, so it would
not be regionalized.  I also read that the ABC afternoon games will be
available for ESPN/ESPN2 to pick up out of market, although I can't tell if
it will be guaranteed or not.  I would imagine that if the games are not
picked up on ESPN/2 they would be on GamePlan - although it has been my
impression all along that no BT home games would be on GamePlan starting
this year.  I may be wrong, but the networks may not know yet either.

Jonathan

On 8/12/07, Jim Bendat <thehaze@earthlink.net> wrote:
>
> Any Big Ten ABC Saturday afternoon games will be shown in out of market
> areas on ESPN or ESPN2.  Therefore, there will definitely be no Big Ten
> games on Gameplan during the 330 Eastern Time block.  We will get all those
> games, no matter where we live.
>
> What I am not sure of is whether the same procedure will be followed for
> the regionalized Big Ten games at 8 pm Eastern Time.
>
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From thehaze at earthlink.net  Mon Aug 13 21:02:19 2007
From: thehaze at earthlink.net (Jim Bendat)
Date: Mon Aug 13 20:59:18 2007
Subject: [NU Sports] ABC regional games
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On September 22, ABC will be showing two games at 8 pm:  SC vs. 
Washington State and Iowa vs. Wisconsin.  They will be regionalized and, 
unlike the 3:30 games, they might well be a part of GamePlan.


Jonathan Hodges wrote:
> I believe the ABC Saturday night (8PM) game is a national game, so it 
> would not be regionalized.  I also read that the ABC afternoon games 
> will be available for ESPN/ESPN2 to pick up out of market, although I 
> can't tell if it will be guaranteed or not.  I would imagine that if 
> the games are not picked up on ESPN/2 they would be on GamePlan - 
> although it has been my impression all along that no BT home games 
> would be on GamePlan starting this year.  I may be wrong, but the 
> networks may not know yet either.
>
> Jonathan
>
> On 8/12/07, *Jim Bendat* <thehaze@earthlink.net 
> <mailto:thehaze@earthlink.net>> wrote:
>
>     Any Big Ten ABC Saturday afternoon games will be shown in out of
>     market areas on ESPN or ESPN2.  Therefore, there will definitely
>     be no Big Ten games on Gameplan during the 330 Eastern Time
>     block.  We will get all those games, no matter where we live.
>
>     What I am not sure of is whether the same procedure will be
>     followed for the regionalized Big Ten games at 8 pm Eastern Time.
>
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From christopher_bailey at yahoo.com  Wed Aug 15 20:59:11 2007
From: christopher_bailey at yahoo.com (Christopher Bailey)
Date: Wed Aug 15 20:55:59 2007
Subject: [NU Sports] Zak's sister
Message-ID: <382517.8615.qm@web60315.mail.yahoo.com>

OK, this is a wee off topic, but has anyone else managed to catch ?Lloyd's BBQ College
Football Preseason Special.?  I saw it this past weekend on what I'm pretty sure was ABC.

On it, they had an occasional spot from "sideline reporter Sarah Kustok"

http://www.ci.south-bend.in.us/2007-07-10-HOFBBQ.asp

Safe to say, this had to be Zak's sister, right?

FWIW, there was ZERO mention of Northwestern on the program (unless I missed it) so unless you want to watch it for all the other stuff (including the rampant SEC boosterism), save yourself from a half-hour you'll never get back.

LETS GO 'CATS!

Christopher Bailey
christopher_bailey@yahoo.com




From mlinhardt at netzero.net  Thu Aug 16 07:45:20 2007
From: mlinhardt at netzero.net (mlinhardt@netzero.net)
Date: Thu Aug 16 07:44:27 2007
Subject: [NU Sports] Zak's sister
Message-ID: <20070816.074520.6535.0@webmail17.dca.untd.com>

We were watching the IHSA championship games(Ill high school football) held at Champaign the week of Thanksgiving and Sarah was the sideline reporter.

She is Zak's sister, but she is also a domer.  I guess only one of them came out of the darkness and into the light ;-)

-- Christopher Bailey <christopher_bailey@yahoo.com> wrote:
OK, this is a wee off topic, but has anyone else managed to catch “Lloyd's BBQ College
Football Preseason Special.”  I saw it this past weekend on what I'm pretty sure was ABC.

On it, they had an occasional spot from "sideline reporter Sarah Kustok"

http://www.ci.south-bend.in.us/2007-07-10-HOFBBQ.asp

Safe to say, this had to be Zak's sister, right?


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From s.fridley at comcast.net  Thu Aug 16 07:52:11 2007
From: s.fridley at comcast.net (s.fridley@comcast.net)
Date: Thu Aug 16 07:49:39 2007
Subject: [NU Sports] Zak's sister
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 Uh, nope!  Sarah played basketball at DePaul.  Zak was the domer!
>  -------------- Original message ----------------------
> From: "mlinhardt@netzero.net" <mlinhardt@netzero.net>
> > We were watching the IHSA championship games(Ill high school football) held at 
> > Champaign the week of Thanksgiving and Sarah was the sideline reporter.
> > 
> > She is Zak's sister, but she is also a domer.  I guess only one of them came 
> out 
> > of the darkness and into the light ;-)
> > 
> > -- Christopher Bailey <christopher_bailey@yahoo.com> wrote:
> > OK, this is a wee off topic, but has anyone else managed to catch “Lloyd's BBQ 
> > College
> > Football Preseason Special.”  I saw it this past weekend on what I'm pretty 
> sure 
> > was ABC.
> > 
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> > 
> > http://www.ci.south-bend.in.us/2007-07-10-HOFBBQ.asp
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From Hakirsch at aol.com  Thu Aug 16 19:04:39 2007
From: Hakirsch at aol.com (Hakirsch@aol.com)
Date: Thu Aug 16 19:05:16 2007
Subject: [NU Sports] Hang  it in the lockeroom Pat
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NU predicted to finish last in BT by Sporting News

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Date: Thu Aug 16 19:42:28 2007
Subject: [NU Sports] Hang  it in the lockeroom Pat
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SI is closer with the CATS! at 7th, I say we go 8-4 and finish 5th, we beat  
Ohio State and Purdue who are having down years.  For once the Illnoise  game 
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From neonrye at aol.com  Thu Aug 16 20:46:30 2007
From: neonrye at aol.com (neonrye@aol.com)
Date: Thu Aug 16 20:47:36 2007
Subject: [NU Sports] Hang  it in the lockeroom Pat
Message-ID: <1362340140-1187315386-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-1787710143-@bxe110.bisx.prod.on.blackberry>

Sports Illustrated predicts NU to finish 6-6 overall, 2-6 in Conference, and to face Western Michigan in Motor City Bowl.

Paul Levinson
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NU predicted to finish last in BT by Sporting News

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From cyrilku at yahoo.com  Thu Aug 16 21:47:21 2007
From: cyrilku at yahoo.com (Cyril S. Ku)
Date: Thu Aug 16 21:50:49 2007
Subject: [NU Sports] Hang  it in the lockeroom Pat
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ESPNU (Ivan Maisel) predicts NU to finish No. 6 in Big
Ten. NU will face Big 12 No. 6 (Texas A&M) in the
Insight Bowl.
http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/preview07/news/story?id=2974110

The best prediction I saw is from Maize N Brew. They
think NU will go 7-5. By the way, this Maize N Brew
Dave really did his homework. Take a look:
http://www.maizenbrew.com/story/2007/8/13/133521/350

Cyril Ku

--- neonrye@aol.com wrote:

> Sports Illustrated predicts NU to finish 6-6
> overall, 2-6 in Conference, and to face Western
> Michigan in Motor City Bowl.
> 
> Paul Levinson
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From nolan at romaine.tssi.com  Fri Aug 17 11:22:22 2007
From: nolan at romaine.tssi.com (Mike Nolan)
Date: Fri Aug 17 11:22:25 2007
Subject: [NU Sports] Hang  it in the lockeroom Pat
In-Reply-To: <c5b.17be0393.33f64017@aol.com> from "Hakirsch@aol.com" at Aug 16,
	2007 08:04:39 PM
Message-ID: <200708171622.l7HGMMwm005203@romaine.tssi.com>

> NU predicted to finish last in BT by Sporting News

Yeah, well of all the annual predictors, TSN always seems to be the most
speculative if not totally off the wall.  One year they tabbed Colorado 
as their pre-season #1, as I recall they had a losing season and didn't 
even go to a bowl game that year.

What that prediction shows, though, is that NU still hasn't made it 
to the middle tier of the conference in reputation.  Fitz has his work
cut out for him.

Too bad with the Big 10's new setup I probably won't be able to see
more than 2 or 3 televised games all season.
--
Mike Nolan

From tmcadams at yahoo.com  Fri Aug 17 11:56:48 2007
From: tmcadams at yahoo.com (Trey McAdams)
Date: Fri Aug 17 11:53:33 2007
Subject: [NU Sports] Ticket Yet???
Message-ID: <394746.84280.qm@web52202.mail.re2.yahoo.com>

Anyone get their 2007 NU Football tickets yet?

I got parking passes but no game tickets.




       
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From jonathanwhodges at gmail.com  Fri Aug 17 12:10:13 2007
From: jonathanwhodges at gmail.com (Jonathan Hodges)
Date: Fri Aug 17 12:08:15 2007
Subject: [NU Sports] Ticket Yet???
In-Reply-To: <394746.84280.qm@web52202.mail.re2.yahoo.com>
References: <394746.84280.qm@web52202.mail.re2.yahoo.com>
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According to the ticket office this morning: "Season tickets have already
been printed and mailed from our printing company out of state."  They are
being sent by UPS.

Unfortunately I forgot to change my address when I moved so they are being
sent to the wrong place and I'll have to wait for them to get returned and
then pick them up at the ticket office.

Jonathan

On 8/17/07, Trey McAdams <tmcadams@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> Anyone get their 2007 NU Football tickets yet?
>
> I got parking passes but no game tickets.
>
>
>
>
>
>
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From tbng at comcast.net  Fri Aug 17 21:49:56 2007
From: tbng at comcast.net (Dennis W. Brandt)
Date: Fri Aug 17 21:47:36 2007
Subject: [NU Sports] Brett blows up
References: <200708171622.l7HGMMwm005203@romaine.tssi.com>
Message-ID: <000d01c7e142$760ec8c0$c402a8c0@DennisMachine>

Brett Basanez just came in the game in the fourth quarter for Carolina 
against the Eagles, dropped back on the first snap, and promptly threw an 
interception. 

From jason at jasonsinger.com  Fri Aug 17 21:58:01 2007
From: jason at jasonsinger.com (Jason Singer)
Date: Fri Aug 17 21:54:47 2007
Subject: [NU Sports] Brett blows up
In-Reply-To: <000d01c7e142$760ec8c0$c402a8c0@DennisMachine>
Message-ID: <200708180258.l7I2w4h8002652@host14.webserver1010.com>

Well, that makes up for what he did last week, when he came in the game
against the Giants, dropped back on the first snap, and promptly threw an
85-yard touchdown.

Yin and Yang.

Jason Singer
Speech '86

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Behalf Of Dennis W. Brandt
Sent: Friday, August 17, 2007 7:50 PM
To: nwu-sports@tssi.com
Subject: [NU Sports] Brett blows up

Brett Basanez just came in the game in the fourth quarter for Carolina 
against the Eagles, dropped back on the first snap, and promptly threw an 
interception. 

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From jason at jasonsinger.com  Fri Aug 17 22:30:12 2007
From: jason at jasonsinger.com (Jason Singer)
Date: Fri Aug 17 22:26:58 2007
Subject: [NU Sports] Brett blows up (PLEASE NOTICE THE TONE OF THIS
	RESPONSE I GOT FROM THIS ANONYMOUS POSTER); 
In-Reply-To: <bcb.16ca8e46.33f7bab1@aol.com>
Message-ID: <200708180330.l7I3UFrK021902@host14.webserver1010.com>

To the NU board: 

I just received this email from someone in response to my post. Does anyone
know this moron? Mike, can we get him off it? I find it offensive, abusive,
uncalled for, and worst of all, written by someone unable to notice the
irony of what I wrote.

 

To Pahayokeensis@aol.com:

Excuse me, I was defending Brett and telling Dennis to look at the bright
side, which I'm sure almost everyone on this board took the right way.

In the meantime I have forwarded your email to the guy who runs this board.
We don't need you here. WE actually engage in real discussion. Not anonymous
hate mail. Nice. 

I hope you NEVER get hit by a truck and I hope for nothing but happiness for
you and yours, but I do hope you never show up on this board again.

With sympathy from a former season ticket holder, former Willie the Wildcat,
N Club member, current NU donor and proud
Go-Cats-license-plate-frame-on-my-car wearer. How much do you show or care
about the success of this program?

Signed with a name:

Jason Singer

Speech '86 AND A MEMBER OF THIS BOARD FOR OVER TEN YEARS!

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From: Pahayokeensis@aol.com [mailto:Pahayokeensis@aol.com] 
Sent: Friday, August 17, 2007 8:00 PM
To: jason@jasonsinger.com
Subject: Re: [NU Sports] Brett blows up

 

That's real positive, douchebag!

 

Sometimes NU deserves the fooball teams they get!

 

Go get hit by a truck or something, asshole!





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From jason at jasonsinger.com  Fri Aug 17 22:40:59 2007
From: jason at jasonsinger.com (Jason Singer)
Date: Fri Aug 17 22:37:46 2007
Subject: [NU Sports] Brett blows up (PLEASE NOTICE THE TONE OF THIS
	RESPONSE I GOT...
In-Reply-To: <d1f.ddc9a17.33f7c32e@aol.com>
Message-ID: <200708180341.l7I3f23m009748@host14.webserver1010.com>

Well, then, if you played you would have seen that I was saying how great
Brett played last week. No? If you played you would have noticed over the
years that I am ALWAYS leaving positive posts here and often get crushed for
being too optimistic about the team, whom I love. If you played, you'd TELL
ME YOUR NAME so I could congratulate you and thank you for the years of
sacrifice you made for Northwestern.

 

Nothing I said in that post REMOTELY called for a request for me to die. So
I await an apology and again, I thank you for playing on Saturdays as I did
nothing but cheer for NU football for the past 25 years.

 

 

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From: Pahayokeensis@aol.com [mailto:Pahayokeensis@aol.com] 
Sent: Friday, August 17, 2007 8:36 PM
To: jason@jasonsinger.com
Subject: Re: [NU Sports] Brett blows up (PLEASE NOTICE THE TONE OF THIS
RESPONSE I GOT...

 

Dear Jason.

 

I used to play for NU, you dork!  

 

My guess is that trumps your WIllie the Wildcat crapola or whatever else you
did that was remotely NU-related.

 

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From jleonard518 at yahoo.com  Fri Aug 17 23:10:54 2007
From: jleonard518 at yahoo.com (Jim Leonard)
Date: Fri Aug 17 23:07:32 2007
Subject: [NU Sports] Sutton's injury?
Message-ID: <289833.51765.qm@web36804.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

Purple Nation,

Does anyone know the severity of Sutton's injury? I just read on Rivals.com that he's been sitting out some sessions in Kenosha. Will he miss games?

Regards,
Jim


       
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From pminerva at sbcglobal.net  Sun Aug 12 13:08:18 2007
From: pminerva at sbcglobal.net (Paul Minerva)
Date: Fri Aug 17 23:10:31 2007
Subject: [NU Sports] Basanez touchdown pass (video)
Message-ID: <296738.51693.qm@web82501.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

http://www.panthers.com/home/  Highlights of the game.
From jonathanwhodges at gmail.com  Sat Aug 18 08:12:13 2007
From: jonathanwhodges at gmail.com (Jonathan Hodges)
Date: Sat Aug 18 08:09:49 2007
Subject: [NU Sports] Sutton's injury?
In-Reply-To: <289833.51765.qm@web36804.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
References: <289833.51765.qm@web36804.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
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Daily Herald Aricle: http://www.dailyherald.com/sports/story.asp?id=339366

Apparently Sutton probably won't be practicing for the rest of camp but
"should be fine" according to Fitz.  Of course, only time will tell because
this is one of those nagging injuries - and Fitz has been known to feed us
coachspeak and cover up injuries.

Jonathan

On 8/17/07, Jim Leonard <jleonard518@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> Purple Nation,
>
> Does anyone know the severity of Sutton's injury? I just read on
> Rivals.com that he's been sitting out some sessions in Kenosha. Will he
> miss games?
>
> Regards,
> Jim
>
>
>
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From rstetson at capps-assoc.com  Sat Aug 18 08:35:24 2007
From: rstetson at capps-assoc.com (Roy Lamberton)
Date: Sat Aug 18 08:25:45 2007
Subject: [NU Sports] Brett blows up (PLEASE NOTICE THE TONE OF
	THIS	RESPONSE I GOT...
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Message-ID: <000701c7e19c$a1e25160$e5a6f420$@com>

And this was the one board where you could hang out and not get flamed [ok
except for a few guys who have disappeared]

I've just taken to ignoring them all.

rsl

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> -----Original Message-----
> From: nwu-sports-bounces@tssi.com [mailto:nwu-sports-bounces@tssi.com] On
> Behalf Of Jason Singer
> Sent: Friday, August 17, 2007 11:41 PM
> To: nwu-sports@tssi.com
> Subject: RE: [NU Sports] Brett blows up (PLEASE NOTICE THE TONE OF THIS
> RESPONSE I GOT...
> 
> Well, then, if you played you would have seen that I was saying how great
> Brett played last week. No? If you played you would have noticed over the
> years that I am ALWAYS leaving positive posts here and often get crushed
> for
> being too optimistic about the team, whom I love. If you played, you'd TELL
> ME YOUR NAME so I could congratulate you and thank you for the years of
> sacrifice you made for Northwestern.
> 
> 
> 
> Nothing I said in that post REMOTELY called for a request for me to die. So
> I await an apology and again, I thank you for playing on Saturdays as I did
> nothing but cheer for NU football for the past 25 years.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Jason Singer
> 
> 102 N. Hayworth Ave.
> 
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> 
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> 
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> From: Pahayokeensis@aol.com [mailto:Pahayokeensis@aol.com]
> Sent: Friday, August 17, 2007 8:36 PM
> To: jason@jasonsinger.com
> Subject: Re: [NU Sports] Brett blows up (PLEASE NOTICE THE TONE OF THIS
> RESPONSE I GOT...
> 
> 
> 
> Dear Jason.
> 
> 
> 
> I used to play for NU, you dork!
> 
> 
> 
> My guess is that trumps your WIllie the Wildcat crapola or whatever else
> you
> did that was remotely NU-related.
> 
> 
> 
> Toodles.
> 
> 
> 
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From neonrye at aol.com  Sat Aug 18 09:44:00 2007
From: neonrye at aol.com (neonrye@aol.com)
Date: Sat Aug 18 09:41:48 2007
Subject: [NU Sports] Brett blows up (PLEASE NOTICE THE TONE OF THIS
	RESPONSE I GOT...
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Jason:



As a long-time Board Member, I just want to weigh in with support from NYC.? You are right--you have been positive, and have been a good contributor to the pool of information and, frankly, "electronic friendship" (How's that for a made-up phrase?:-)) that we share.?? I have enjoyed your observations for years.? I wouldn't worry about an apology, as it probably wouldn't mean much, considering the source, and, as a former prosecutor (way back in my middle youth), I have my doubts as to the veracity of the allegation by Mr. Pahayokeensis@aol.com that he played at NU.? Anonymous posts don't impress me, and even if he did wear the Purple and White and pads, that doesn't make his opinion more valuable or credible than yours.? Your post was both supportive and humorous, and anyone who didn't comprehend that probably didn't belong in a lecture hall in Evanston anyway, or possibly never received a degree from our Alma Mater.? 

In the meantime, I suggest we collectively?keep our fingers crossed that the team stay healthy and focused, so Fitz' boys can "run the table" in the first 3 Non-Conf. games, which is what is sorely needed, considering the degree of difficulty of the?BT opener at the Shoe and the follow-up against the Maize and Blue at Ryan.


Paul Levinson



-----Original Message-----
From: Roy Lamberton <rstetson@capps-assoc.com>
To: 'Jason Singer' <jason@jasonsinger.com>; nwu-sports@tssi.com
Sent: Sat, 18 Aug 2007 9:35 am
Subject: RE: [NU Sports] Brett blows up (PLEASE NOTICE THE TONE OF THIS RESPONSE I GOT...




And this was the one board where you could hang out and not get flamed [ok
except for a few guys who have disappeared]

I've just taken to ignoring them all.

rsl

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> -----Original Message-----
> From: nwu-sports-bounces@tssi.com [mailto:nwu-sports-bounces@tssi.com] On
> Behalf Of Jason Singer
> Sent: Friday, August 17, 2007 11:41 PM
> To: nwu-sports@tssi.com
> Subject: RE: [NU Sports] Brett blows up (PLEASE NOTICE THE TONE OF THIS
> RESPONSE I GOT...
> 
> Well, then, if you played you would have seen that I was saying how great
> Brett played last week. No? If you played you would have noticed over the
> years that I am ALWAYS leaving positive posts here and often get crushed
> for
> being too optimistic about the team, whom I love. If you played, you'd TELL
> ME YOUR NAME so I could congratulate you and thank you for the years of
> sacrifice you made for Northwestern.
> 
> 
> 
> Nothing I said in that post REMOTELY called for a request for me to die. So
> I await an apology and again, I thank you for playing on Saturdays as I did
> nothing but cheer for NU football for the past 25 years.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Jason Singer
> 
> 102 N. Hayworth Ave.
> 
> Los Angeles, CA 90048 USA
> 
> 310.903.9602 Cell
> 
> www.jasonsinger.com <http://www.jasonsinger.com/>
> 
> 
> 
>   _____
> 
> From: [mailto:Pahayokeensis@aol.com]
> Sent: Friday, August 17, 2007 8:36 PM
> To: jason@jasonsinger.com
> Subject: Re: [NU Sports] Brett blows up (PLEASE NOTICE THE TONE OF THIS
> RESPONSE I GOT...
> 
> 
> 
> Dear Jason.
> 
> 
> 
> I used to play for NU, you dork!
> 
> 
> 
> My guess is that trumps your WIllie the Wildcat crapola or whatever else
> you
> did that was remotely NU-related.
> 
> 
> 
> Toodles.
> 
> 
> 
> 
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From WildElk2 at aol.com  Sat Aug 18 14:01:54 2007
From: WildElk2 at aol.com (WildElk2@aol.com)
Date: Sat Aug 18 13:59:51 2007
Subject: [NU Sports] Brett blows up (PLEASE NOTICE THE TONE OF THIS
	RESPONSE I GOT...
Message-ID: <bde.18f48e79.33f89c22@aol.com>

Jason,
 
  Please don't let that knucklehead who flamed you stop you from  posting.  
As a 10 year poster, I always enjoy your thought-provoking posts  and polite 
discourse.  What irks me is our list group is something like a  family who 
enjoys talking NU sports without the imbecilic behavior commonly  found on most 
message boards.
   As a fellow list member, I urge Mike N. to do  all he can to block his 
posts.  Jason doesn't deserve to be  hurt by this swine.
 
   BTW, go  Cats;          Eric Kunkel; proud  Wildcat supporter since 1978!



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From thehaze at earthlink.net  Sat Aug 18 16:54:56 2007
From: thehaze at earthlink.net (Jim Bendat)
Date: Sat Aug 18 16:51:34 2007
Subject: [NU Sports] Brett blows up (PLEASE NOTICE THE TONE OF
	THIS	RESPONSE I GOT...
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Writing as one who was flamed last year (by some guy who I hadn't seen 
in more than 35 years, now departed from this board), let me join in my 
support for Jason.  I enjoyed watching a Cats game with Jason at my home 
a number of years ago, and it was great running into him at the NGN 
luncheon on campus last October.  On this board, we know who Jason is, 
and we know where his allegiances lie.  As for this other guy, may he 
peacefully join the departed.  Go Cats! -- Jim B.

From clzahn at mindspring.com  Sat Aug 18 18:25:54 2007
From: clzahn at mindspring.com (Clark Zahn)
Date: Sat Aug 18 18:22:58 2007
Subject: [NU Sports] Brett blows up (PLEASE NOTICE THE TONE
	OF	THIS	RESPONSE I GOT...
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Jim Bendat wrote:
> Writing as one who was flamed last year (by some guy who I hadn't seen 
> in more than 35 years, now departed from this board), let me join in 
> my support for Jason.  I enjoyed watching a Cats game with Jason at my 
> home a number of years ago, and it was great running into him at the 
> NGN luncheon on campus last October.  On this board, we know who Jason 
> is, and we know where his allegiances lie.  As for this other guy, may 
> he peacefully join the departed.  Go Cats! -- Jim B.
>

I'll certainly second that thought.  I've also met Jason.  We attended a 
game together in 1999.  Jason has more Wildcat spirit than just about 
anyone I know.

Clark Zahn


From jason at jasonsinger.com  Sat Aug 18 22:22:11 2007
From: jason at jasonsinger.com (Jason Singer)
Date: Sat Aug 18 22:19:09 2007
Subject: [NU Sports] Brett blows up (PLEASE NOTICE THE TONE OF
	THIS	RESPONSE I GOT...
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I am humbled by and extremely grateful for the support and kind words you
have all shown me in the last 24 hours. I am overjoyed that this community
works as just that, a community. Cheers to all!

More importantly, however - GO CATS!

And GO BAZ (and every other former NU player in whatever chosen life he or
she has tried to make for themselves)!

Jason Singer
Speech '86

From mlinhardt at netzero.net  Sun Aug 19 12:33:11 2007
From: mlinhardt at netzero.net (mlinhardt@netzero.net)
Date: Sun Aug 19 12:31:38 2007
Subject: [NU Sports] Summer Scrimmage
Message-ID: <20070819.123311.17013.0@webmail18.dca.untd.com>

We attended the summer scrimmage, but had to leave at 4pm to have dinner with a fellow NU alumnus.

Bacher looked pretty crisp, but was helped on the first series, by outstanding YAC from Rasheed Ward.  We were yelling for offensive face mask on Ward harkening back to the days Damien got called for one or two.  The only 2 offensive face mask calls I have ever seen called against the guy with the ball.

Kafka had a nice 50+ yard run, but his passing was not as sharp.

Peterman and Ward had catches, but I did not see Brewer or Lane have anything thrown to them.  Ross did have a nice punt block.  Kind of shocking as you figure your small speedy guys are the punt blockers.

The run defense was pretty good, but the pass defense had a lot of holes including a mugging(pass interference).  The only run defense laps was the Kafka run and he beat them around the corner.  I think it was the Michigan post that talked about us being stout up the middle, but weak/slow on the sides.

Special teams was a mixed bag.  Amado MISSED an extra point -- ouch and missed a 45yd field goal and we had a punt blocked.  The coverage looked pretty good and the punt block was nice.  Kind of a split personality -- do you root for offense or defense.

We missed Nick Roach's brother patrolling the sidelines trying to encourage the crowd and making witty remarks.

Other notes:  I hope GB consulted on special teams rather than giving foo-foo rah-rah speeches.  We are beyond the 0-11 days and need tactical help rather than "we're the underdog and no one gives us any credit..."

As always Go Cats!


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From mzilka at sbcglobal.net  Sun Aug 19 13:04:17 2007
From: mzilka at sbcglobal.net (Marilyn J Zilka)
Date: Sun Aug 19 13:00:49 2007
Subject: [NU Sports] Brewer
Message-ID: <781810.75390.qm@web83514.mail.sp1.yahoo.com>

Brewer was on the sidelines yesterday with a broken arm--
He appears to be out for the season
From nolan at romaine.tssi.com  Sun Aug 19 13:38:24 2007
From: nolan at romaine.tssi.com (Mike Nolan)
Date: Sun Aug 19 13:38:27 2007
Subject: [NU Sports] Summer Scrimmage
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	"mlinhardt@netzero.net" at Aug 19, 2007 05:33:11 PM
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> Other notes:  I hope GB consulted on special teams rather than giving foo-foo rah-rah speeches.  We are beyond the 0-11 days and need tactical help rather than "we're the underdog and no one gives us any credit..."

I never considered GB's special teams all that special.

I do agree, though, that his motivational techniques might not be as 
effective as they were in 1995.
--
Mike Nolan

From mlinhardt at netzero.net  Sun Aug 19 14:27:05 2007
From: mlinhardt at netzero.net (mlinhardt@netzero.net)
Date: Sun Aug 19 14:25:26 2007
Subject: [NU Sports] Summer Scrimmage
Message-ID: <20070819.142705.20136.0@webmail09.dca.untd.com>

Placekicker -- Sam V. and Brian G. -- I was CONFIDENT at anything 50yds or less.

Punter -- Paul B. -- 90+ yard punt.  Totally amazing.  Also excellent directional kicker.  Only had one bad game - Miami(OH).  Punt the ball and let the 95 defense work its magic.

Punt Returner -- Brian M.  -- Still my favorite cheer mooooooo-so.  Until the Ohio Bobcats game he was so electrifying.  After getting clocked a trio of times illegally he was never the same returner.

Special teams were NEVER a worry under GB.  This was RWs biggest weakness.  Either he did not know how to recruit them or how to coach them.

GBs biggest faults beyond the wandering eye was overusing trick plays inappropriate situations and playing the "motivational speech" card too often.

-- Mike Nolan <nolan@romaine.tssi.com> wrote:
> Other notes:  I hope GB consulted on special teams rather than giving foo-foo rah-rah speeches.  We are beyond the 0-11 days and need tactical help rather than "we're the underdog and no one gives us any credit..."

I never considered GB's special teams all that special.



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From tbng at comcast.net  Mon Aug 20 19:20:39 2007
From: tbng at comcast.net (Dennis W. Brandt)
Date: Mon Aug 20 19:18:15 2007
Subject: [NU Sports] TV  and sports
References: <200708191838.l7JIcO2E021382@romaine.tssi.com>
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Interesting stat on http://www.bigtennetwork.com/.  In football-mad 
Columbus, Ohio, 39.4% of households watched Ohio State football games during 
2006.  Due to that popularity, Directv adds the Big Ten Network to "basic" 
packages, and a an extended basic package is where, in all likelihood, it 
will wind up once on cable.  Let's put it another way.  61.6% of Columbus 
households don't give a hoot about Ohio State football but still have to pay 
the increased cable or satellite bill. 

From sjtruog at yahoo.com  Mon Aug 20 20:07:56 2007
From: sjtruog at yahoo.com (SjT (Stephen J. Truog))
Date: Mon Aug 20 20:04:28 2007
Subject: [NU Sports] TV  and sports
In-Reply-To: <000401c7e389$1a97d010$c402a8c0@DennisMachine>
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> will wind up once on cable.  Let's put it another
> way.  61.6% of Columbus 
> households don't give a hoot about Ohio State
> football but still have to pay 
> the increased cable or satellite bill. 
> 
Well, I don't think it's fair to lump ALL of that on
the Big Ten. And besides, I'm sure there are a few OSU
fans who may watch for the basketball, hockey,
baseball, etc. that didn't for football.

For instance, on the basic package for the cable I
used to receive and for DirecTV, there are channels
dedicated to golf, racing, motorcross and other sports
that I have no interest in. Not to mention non-sports
channels that I rarely if ever watch. Still, it's all
in the basic fee.

I can see states outside of the midwest balking at
adding the Big Ten Network to basic cable (though I'm
thankful DirecTV has it since I'm one of many Big Ten
alums outside the midwest). But given how big the Big
Ten schools are in their home states, I don't think
it's unreasonable for the football and basketball
games that used to be carried by regional stations
(who happily paid for regional network fee because
they knew their audience wanted the games) -- along
with other sports and non-athletic programming from
these major state institutions (minus NU) should be
part of the basic package.

It's different from the NFL network because it
involves more than one sport and year-round
programming ... and in the midwest states, it will
likely have a larger audience than the sport channels
Comcast runs for the basic package (golf, versus,
comcast sports network, etc.).

NU is a bit of a different situation because of our
private status and small alumni base ... but the other
10 schools are major state institutions. Growing up in
Wisconsin -- when the Badgers stunk in football and
basketball -- people still watched the PBS
re-broadcast of games before the regional Big Ten Plus
came along and had all of the Milwaukee stations
fighting for the game rights. And in NW Indiana, the
local PBS affiliate would basically make their budget
for the year off pledge drives held during the IU and
Purdue basketball games they bought and used to ask
for more money from viewers.

All the joking from Mike Downey aside, there will be a
lot on here for midwest sports fans to see -- for NU
fans, probably more than Michigan or OSU fans -- but
3-4 football games and a dozen hoops games won't be
something easily missed in the midwest. If they don't
get agreements soon, there'll be some heavy pressure
from fans in September.

GO CATS!!!
-SjT

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From WildElk2 at aol.com  Mon Aug 20 21:03:34 2007
From: WildElk2 at aol.com (WildElk2@aol.com)
Date: Mon Aug 20 21:01:32 2007
Subject: [NU Sports] Andrew Brewer
Message-ID: <ce5.18dff04a.33fba1f6@aol.com>

Not much chatter on Andrew Brewer breaking his arm.  Tough  break for a kid 
who's only a soph., and has been through a lot.
  This puts more pressure on Mr. Thompson to step up and become kind  of 
player who changes games.
  At this point, we shouldn't get to worried about Tyrell, and for  goodness 
sake, get him 10 carries, 2-3 receptions and a 28-0 lead vs.  Northeastern, 
and get him the hell out of there.  12 games is a very long  season.
   Getting back to Brewer: I know we have some depth at WR, but  this was a 
big blow; Brewer has the kind of speed that spreads defenses (see OSU  and 
Mich.). Still, there have been worse campaigns at Kenosha, so if we can head  into 
our opener with only 1 player lost, I guess that's pretty good.  Check  on 
any source of NCAA football  information, and injuries during pre-season  
practice are a common occurrence.  
 
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From clzahn at mindspring.com  Tue Aug 21 00:08:18 2007
From: clzahn at mindspring.com (Clark Zahn)
Date: Tue Aug 21 00:05:18 2007
Subject: [NU Sports] TV  and sports
In-Reply-To: <000401c7e389$1a97d010$c402a8c0@DennisMachine>
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Dennis W. Brandt wrote:
> Interesting stat on http://www.bigtennetwork.com/.  In football-mad 
> Columbus, Ohio, 39.4% of households watched Ohio State football games 
> during 2006.  Due to that popularity, Directv adds the Big Ten Network 
> to "basic" packages, and a an extended basic package is where, in all 
> likelihood, it will wind up once on cable.  Let's put it another way.  
> 61.6% of Columbus households don't give a hoot about Ohio State 
> football but still have to pay the increased cable or satellite bill.
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There are lots of channels in the basic package that far less than 39% 
of the subscribers view.  You'd have to be a TV addict to watch even a 
majority of the channels.  In Big Ten country I would expect the BTN to 
be one of the higher rated channels.

Clark Zahn

From tbng at comcast.net  Tue Aug 21 04:50:27 2007
From: tbng at comcast.net (Dennis W. Brandt)
Date: Tue Aug 21 04:47:58 2007
Subject: [NU Sports] TV  and sports
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> There are lots of channels in the basic package that far less than 39% of 
> the subscribers view.

That is precisely my point.  Even an ultra-high viewership translates to 
nearly two-thirds of cable/satellite subscribers NEVER watching.  With the 
unrelenting addition of channel after channel, the cost of cable and 
satellite continues to climb.  The availability of so many channels is 
great, but the industry must start addressing a la carte subscription, at 
least on a tier basis.  If you want the sports channels, Discovery/History 
Channels, shopping networks, etc, pay for them.  Otherwise, don't.  The cost 
of individual channels will go up, but the overall cost for many subscribers 
will drop.  If the industry doesn't do it, Congress will.  That necessarily 
flows back to cable/satellite's contracts with program providers, which 
leads to their contracts with sports franchises, and in the case of pros, 
teams reexamining salaries.  I believe the scale has become grossly 
imbalanced toward those who earn more.  It's time for the playing field to 
tilt back toward those who want to pay less and have a choice.  If we did 
that, you wouldn't be having a Big Ten Network vs. cable battle going on. 

From nolan at romaine.tssi.com  Tue Aug 21 10:02:52 2007
From: nolan at romaine.tssi.com (Mike Nolan)
Date: Tue Aug 21 10:02:57 2007
Subject: [NU Sports] TV  and sports
In-Reply-To: <46CA7342.5000502@mindspring.com> from "Clark Zahn" at Aug 20,
	2007 10:08:18 PM
Message-ID: <200708211502.l7LF2qoC026652@romaine.tssi.com>

> There are lots of channels in the basic package that far less than 39% 
> of the subscribers view.  You'd have to be a TV addict to watch even a 
> majority of the channels.  In Big Ten country I would expect the BTN to 
> be one of the higher rated channels.

The Wall Street Journal site had an article recently talking about how the
NFL may finally have bitten off more than it can chew with their new
NFL Network channel, which many cable operators are not carrying because
of the high cost and low perceived demand.  

This article also mentioned ESPN's (mostly) successful strategy of paying
top-dollar (and in the process redefining what 'top dollar' means) for 
events then jacking up the per-subscriber fee to cable operators
to carry the ESPN family of channels.  (I think it's ironic that now
that my cable operator has finally added ESPNU to the mix, there may not
be any games on it I'm interested in this season.)

It also cited problems that the Big 10 Network is having with cable
operators balking at carrying it.  If that's true, it isn't likely to
be one of the higher rated channels even in Big 10 country.

I'm not convinced ala carte pricing will save me anything on my cable bill,
which currently adds up to several hundred dollars a month.  I've already
decided I will NOT purchase ESPN Game Plan this season, last year I think
I got TWO games I was really interested in on Game Plan all season, and 
fewer games overall than in 2005.

Personally, I think the cable operators should have to pay ME for including 
the shopping channels.  
--
Mike Nolan

From Winkler_Brian_H at cat.com  Tue Aug 21 10:50:56 2007
From: Winkler_Brian_H at cat.com (Brian H. Winkler)
Date: Tue Aug 21 10:50:31 2007
Subject: [NU Sports] TV  and sports
In-Reply-To: <200708211502.l7LF2qoC026652@romaine.tssi.com>
Message-ID: <OFAA5D3748.7BBFD33A-ON8625733E.00562070-8625733E.00570F89@notes.cat.com>

> I'm not convinced ala carte pricing will save me anything on my cable 
bill,
> which currently adds up to several hundred dollars a month.  I've 
already
> decided I will NOT purchase ESPN Game Plan this season, last year I 
think
> I got TWO games I was really interested in on Game Plan all season, and 
> fewer games overall than in 2005.


"Several hundred dollars a month" for cable.  Wow.  I switched to direct 
tv years ago and have lost touch with cable pricing but that seems 
outrageous. 

Does anyone know the breakdown of revenue for a tv network - what percent 
comes from commercials vs fees collected from the cable/satellite 
operators? 

The Big ten network will be short-lived if it is a money-losing venture. I 
suspect they need the subscription fees from the cable companies and are 
hoping customer demand for the BT network will drive cable operators to 
include it. 
Brian




Mike Nolan <nolan@romaine.tssi.com> 
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> There are lots of channels in the basic package that far less than 39% 
> of the subscribers view.  You'd have to be a TV addict to watch even a 
> majority of the channels.  In Big Ten country I would expect the BTN to 
> be one of the higher rated channels.

The Wall Street Journal site had an article recently talking about how the
NFL may finally have bitten off more than it can chew with their new
NFL Network channel, which many cable operators are not carrying because
of the high cost and low perceived demand. 

This article also mentioned ESPN's (mostly) successful strategy of paying
top-dollar (and in the process redefining what 'top dollar' means) for 
events then jacking up the per-subscriber fee to cable operators
to carry the ESPN family of channels.  (I think it's ironic that now
that my cable operator has finally added ESPNU to the mix, there may not
be any games on it I'm interested in this season.)

It also cited problems that the Big 10 Network is having with cable
operators balking at carrying it.  If that's true, it isn't likely to
be one of the higher rated channels even in Big 10 country.

I'm not convinced ala carte pricing will save me anything on my cable 
bill,
which currently adds up to several hundred dollars a month.  I've already
decided I will NOT purchase ESPN Game Plan this season, last year I think
I got TWO games I was really interested in on Game Plan all season, and 
fewer games overall than in 2005.

Personally, I think the cable operators should have to pay ME for 
including 
the shopping channels. 
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From thiegs at umn.edu  Tue Aug 21 11:07:59 2007
From: thiegs at umn.edu (Joe Thiegs)
Date: Tue Aug 21 11:08:13 2007
Subject: [NU Sports] TV  and sports
In-Reply-To: <46CA7342.5000502@mindspring.com>
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	<46CA7342.5000502@mindspring.com>
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Yeah.

For example, did any of you know that there's this channel called C-SPAN?
Just the other day, I saw it in the digital guide.  From the name I assumed
that it must be another ESPN spinoff, so, naturally, I wanted to check it
out.  Let me save you some time:  don't bother.  All it was was a bunch of
guys and a few women standing up and taking turns talking in some huge room
with a lot of chairs.  Blah, blah, blah.  No highlight reels or anything.
They didn't even have instant replay.  Needless to say, I didn't stick with
that for long.

Because I'm an open-minded guy, though, I decided to give it another chance
later that night (thinking perhaps it was an infomercial or something when I
watched before).  I saw there was actually a C-SPAN2 (!) so I figured I'd
give "the Deuce" a look.  Even worse this time, it was a couple of people
sitting around talking about some book.  A BOOK!  If I want to hear about
books, I'll watch The Library Channel, thanks.

There was another channel right next to the C-SPANs on the guide called CNN.
Having never heard of it before, I was guessing maybe it stood for
"Celebrity News Now."  Boy, was I disappointed.  A lot of talk about the
stock market and the economy (something bad, I think), and then some video
of President Bush doing something and shaking someone's hand, and then about
a half hour of people talking about hurricanes.  At least I did see
something scrolling on the bottom of the screen about Lindsay Lohan--you
know, where the score updates are supposed to be.  (Side note--It sounded
like they had that guy from Field of Dreams doing one of their station ID
clips:  "This is CNN."  Weird.)  

Oh well.  Personally, I think it's good to stretch your boundaries every
once in a while, even if it ends up being boring.

What channel number is Comedy Central, again?  I think it was somewhere
between ESPNU and Spike TV . . . .

-Joe

-----Original Message-----
From: nwu-sports-bounces@tssi.com [mailto:nwu-sports-bounces@tssi.com] On
Behalf Of Clark Zahn
Sent: Tuesday, August 21, 2007 12:08 AM
To: nwu-sports@tssi.com
Subject: Re: [NU Sports] TV and sports

Dennis W. Brandt wrote:
> Interesting stat on http://www.bigtennetwork.com/.  In football-mad 
> Columbus, Ohio, 39.4% of households watched Ohio State football games 
> during 2006.  Due to that popularity, Directv adds the Big Ten Network 
> to "basic" packages, and a an extended basic package is where, in all 
> likelihood, it will wind up once on cable.  Let's put it another way.  
> 61.6% of Columbus households don't give a hoot about Ohio State 
> football but still have to pay the increased cable or satellite bill.
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There are lots of channels in the basic package that far less than 39% 
of the subscribers view.  You'd have to be a TV addict to watch even a 
majority of the channels.  In Big Ten country I would expect the BTN to 
be one of the higher rated channels.

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From tbng at comcast.net  Tue Aug 21 11:23:18 2007
From: tbng at comcast.net (Dennis W. Brandt)
Date: Tue Aug 21 11:20:47 2007
Subject: [NU Sports] TV  and sports
References: <200708211502.l7LF2qoC026652@romaine.tssi.com>
Message-ID: <001401c7e40f$95bb9750$c402a8c0@DennisMachine>

> I'm not convinced ala carte pricing will save me anything on my cable 
> bill,
> which currently adds up to several hundred dollars a month.  I

Not if you subscribe to every channel on the planet it won't.  I presume you 
have every premium channel, sports package, HD, and internet.  If you don't 
and you're paying that much, switch to satellite.

By the way, I just got word from DirecTV that they will not be broadcasting 
any games on the Big Ten Network in high-def, although late in the year is 
possible once all the new birds are up.  Hopefully they're not goonies, 
dodos, and albatrosses. 

From nolan at romaine.tssi.com  Tue Aug 21 11:35:01 2007
From: nolan at romaine.tssi.com (Mike Nolan)
Date: Tue Aug 21 11:35:05 2007
Subject: [NU Sports] TV  and sports
In-Reply-To: <001401c7e40f$95bb9750$c402a8c0@DennisMachine> from "Dennis W.
	Brandt" at Aug 21, 2007 12:23:18 PM
Message-ID: <200708211635.l7LGZ1Bi026884@romaine.tssi.com>

> Not if you subscribe to every channel on the planet it won't.  I presume you 
> have every premium channel, sports package, HD, and internet.  If you don't 
> and you're paying that much, switch to satellite.

My son has satellite, I think he spends at least as much a month as I do,
even though he's got just one TV.  I've got 4 cable boxes, one of which is 
a DVR (we also have a TIVO), and each of those boxes increase the total
tab.

I've priced satellites several times, there was no significant savings.
--
Mike Nolan

From CHerron604 at aol.com  Tue Aug 21 11:38:51 2007
From: CHerron604 at aol.com (CHerron604@aol.com)
Date: Tue Aug 21 11:39:07 2007
Subject: [NU Sports] 2 Notes
Message-ID: <c51.189a5c22.33fc6f1b@aol.com>

Saw two notes this morning of some interest.  First, the Miami  Hurricanes 
will leave the Orange Bowl in Miami after this season (and play where  the 
Dolphins play).  With no tenants left (not even the namesake bowl  game), the place 
will probably come down.  So get to Miami this fall if you  want to see it...
 
_http://sports.yahoo.com/ncaaf/news?slug=ap-miami-orangebowl&prov=ap&type=lgns
_ 
(http://sports.yahoo.com/ncaaf/news?slug=ap-miami-orangebowl&prov=ap&type=lgns) 
 
Also, Iowa suspended indefinitely 2 receivers, one of them last year's  
leading receiver, for unauthorized credit card use: 
 
_http://www.allheadlinenews.com/articles/7008257665_ 
(http://www.allheadlinenews.com/articles/7008257665) 
 
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From Alan.Abrahamson at nbcsports.com  Tue Aug 21 11:42:02 2007
From: Alan.Abrahamson at nbcsports.com (Abrahamson, Alan (NBC Universal))
Date: Tue Aug 21 11:39:28 2007
Subject: [NU Sports] TV  and sports
In-Reply-To: <001401c7e40f$95bb9750$c402a8c0@DennisMachine>
References: <200708211502.l7LF2qoC026652@romaine.tssi.com>
	<001401c7e40f$95bb9750$c402a8c0@DennisMachine>
Message-ID: <33C4F11DF8639640A51C79CB484166FF031D1EAF@RKFMLVEM02.e2k.ad.ge.com>

I have DirecTV. Why a football fan would have anything else is beyond
me.
  

-----Original Message-----
From: nwu-sports-bounces@tssi.com [mailto:nwu-sports-bounces@tssi.com]
On Behalf Of Dennis W. Brandt
Sent: Tuesday, August 21, 2007 9:23 AM
To: nwu-sports@tssi.com
Subject: Re: [NU Sports] TV and sports

> I'm not convinced ala carte pricing will save me anything on my cable 
> bill, which currently adds up to several hundred dollars a month.  I

Not if you subscribe to every channel on the planet it won't.  I presume
you have every premium channel, sports package, HD, and internet.  If
you don't and you're paying that much, switch to satellite.

By the way, I just got word from DirecTV that they will not be
broadcasting any games on the Big Ten Network in high-def, although late
in the year is possible once all the new birds are up.  Hopefully
they're not goonies, dodos, and albatrosses. 

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From clzahn at mindspring.com  Tue Aug 21 13:19:43 2007
From: clzahn at mindspring.com (Clark Zahn)
Date: Tue Aug 21 13:16:09 2007
Subject: [NU Sports] TV  and sports
Message-ID: <23787614.1187720383928.JavaMail.root@mswamui-andean.atl.sa.earthlink.net>



-----Original Message-----
>From: "Abrahamson, Alan (NBC Universal)" <Alan.Abrahamson@nbcsports.com>
>Sent: Aug 21, 2007 9:42 AM
>To: "Dennis W. Brandt" <tbng@comcast.net>
>Cc: nwu-sports@tssi.com
>Subject: RE: [NU Sports] TV  and sports
>
>I have DirecTV. Why a football fan would have anything else is beyond
>me.
>  
>


Directv does have fewer HD channels than DISH or cable.  They plan on adding more HD channels in the near future.  I have had Directv for 7+ years.

Clark Zahn


From Alan.Abrahamson at nbcsports.com  Tue Aug 21 13:20:43 2007
From: Alan.Abrahamson at nbcsports.com (Abrahamson, Alan (NBC Universal))
Date: Tue Aug 21 13:18:13 2007
Subject: [NU Sports] TV  and sports
In-Reply-To: <23787614.1187720383928.JavaMail.root@mswamui-andean.atl.sa.earthlink.net>
References: <23787614.1187720383928.JavaMail.root@mswamui-andean.atl.sa.earthlink.net>
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As a sportswriter: with DirecTV you get GamePlan for college and the NFL
package.  
 Who could want more?

-----Original Message-----
From: Clark Zahn [mailto:clzahn@mindspring.com] 
Sent: Tuesday, August 21, 2007 11:20 AM
To: Abrahamson, Alan (NBC Universal); Dennis W. Brandt
Cc: nwu-sports@tssi.com
Subject: RE: [NU Sports] TV and sports



-----Original Message-----
>From: "Abrahamson, Alan (NBC Universal)" 
><Alan.Abrahamson@nbcsports.com>
>Sent: Aug 21, 2007 9:42 AM
>To: "Dennis W. Brandt" <tbng@comcast.net>
>Cc: nwu-sports@tssi.com
>Subject: RE: [NU Sports] TV  and sports
>
>I have DirecTV. Why a football fan would have anything else is beyond 
>me.
>  
>


Directv does have fewer HD channels than DISH or cable.  They plan on
adding more HD channels in the near future.  I have had Directv for 7+
years.

Clark Zahn



From CHerron604 at aol.com  Tue Aug 21 18:05:07 2007
From: CHerron604 at aol.com (CHerron604@aol.com)
Date: Tue Aug 21 18:05:25 2007
Subject: [NU Sports] Tickets
Message-ID: <d46.118f2eeb.33fcc9a3@aol.com>

The tickets are in, delivered to the southwest suburbs of Chicago by UPS  2nd 
Day Air
 
As Andy Williams sang "It's the most wonderful time of the year..."
 
Chuck Herron   Tech '85



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From CHerron604 at aol.com  Tue Aug 21 18:47:52 2007
From: CHerron604 at aol.com (CHerron604@aol.com)
Date: Tue Aug 21 18:48:02 2007
Subject: [NU Sports] Ratings/Rankings
Message-ID: <c98.18d4ae64.33fcd3a8@aol.com>

In waiting for the Sagarin Ratings to appear on the USA Today website, I  
stumbled upon this very interesting website:
 
_http://www.mratings.com/cf/compare.htm_ 
(http://www.mratings.com/cf/compare.htm) 
 
While I realize that rankings and ratings are mostly for amusement purposes  
(especially before any kickoffs), I am encouraged that the consensus of a 
number  of informed parties seems to indicate that our schedule splits into 
roughly  three parts (we fall in at # 67):
 
- BCS caliber opponents (OSU (5), Michigan (8))
 
- Competitive opponents (Purdue (47), Iowa (48), Minnesota (51), Nevada  
(58), Michigan St (71), Indiana (75), Illinois (82))
 
- Weak opponents (Duke (111), Eastern Michigan (114), Northeastern (not Div  
I))
 
It is also encouraging that we host 4 of the 7 'competitive' opponents, and  
we have played well in recent years at East Lansing and at Champaign.
 
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From thehaze at earthlink.net  Tue Aug 21 20:09:17 2007
From: thehaze at earthlink.net (Jim Bendat)
Date: Tue Aug 21 20:05:37 2007
Subject: [NU Sports] TV  and sports
In-Reply-To: <001401c7e40f$95bb9750$c402a8c0@DennisMachine>
References: <200708211502.l7LF2qoC026652@romaine.tssi.com>
	<001401c7e40f$95bb9750$c402a8c0@DennisMachine>
Message-ID: <46CB8CBD.1000106@earthlink.net>

Dennis W. Brandt wrote:
> By the way, I just got word from DirecTV that they will not be 
> broadcasting any games on the Big Ten Network in high-def, although 
> late in the year is possible once all the new birds are up.  Hopefully 
> they're not goonies, dodos, and albatrosses.
Hey, don't knock albatrosses.  I just got back from seeing them in the 
Galapagos.  Their mating dance is unreal! -- Jim

From tbng at comcast.net  Tue Aug 21 20:22:49 2007
From: tbng at comcast.net (Dennis W. Brandt)
Date: Tue Aug 21 20:20:17 2007
Subject: [NU Sports] TV  and sports
References: <200708211502.l7LF2qoC026652@romaine.tssi.com><001401c7e40f$95bb9750$c402a8c0@DennisMachine>
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> Hey, don't knock albatrosses.  I just got back from seeing them in the 
> Galapagos.  Their mating dance is unreal! -- Jim

You went on vacation to watch birds do it?  Ain't that just ducky.  How many 
bills did that cost you?  (And don't crow about it.)

From sjtruog at yahoo.com  Tue Aug 21 20:25:19 2007
From: sjtruog at yahoo.com (SjT (Stephen J. Truog))
Date: Tue Aug 21 20:21:39 2007
Subject: [NU Sports] TV  and sports
In-Reply-To: <200708211635.l7LGZ1Bi026884@romaine.tssi.com>
Message-ID: <642486.55472.qm@web52909.mail.re2.yahoo.com>

> My son has satellite, I think he spends at least as
> much a month as I do,
> even though he's got just one TV.  I've got 4 cable
> boxes, one of which is 
> a DVR (we also have a TIVO), and each of those boxes
> increase the total
> tab.
> 
> I've priced satellites several times, there was no
> significant savings.

I guess it depends. I had Comcast for years in Indiana
before switching to DirecTV. It was definitely less
for the DirecTV basic package compared to Comcast -
plus there were more channels and ... unlike cable ...
if I ordered a sports package or movie package, it was
on all the TVs in the place and not just the one with
the main receiver.

In Arizona, from what I hear Cox is one of the better
cable companies for service. But their base package is
essentially the same price ($42.95 vs. $44.95), but
the DirecTV one has twice as many channels.

Yeah, you miss the local access or CLTV in Chicago,
but as Alan said, with the Big Ten Network here in AZ
and NFL Sunday Ticket, DirecTV is the choice for
football fans (unless you can't put a satellite out on
your apartment deck or something).

GO CATS!!!
-SjT

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From CHerron604 at aol.com  Tue Aug 21 20:24:47 2007
From: CHerron604 at aol.com (CHerron604@aol.com)
Date: Tue Aug 21 20:22:20 2007
Subject: [NU Sports] TV  and sports
Message-ID: <d59.11907195.33fcea5f@aol.com>

I'll ask this as a basic cable guy - is it anticipated that there will be a  
point when you have one 'wire' going into your home, providing very high-speed 
 internet ?  And will we also be able to download this week's episode of  
'House' (or whatever) ?  And/or stream the NU/Iowa game, to be watched in  
real-time, or sent to our digital video recorder ?  I guess I'm asking - do  the 
experts believe we will ever reach a point where we don't need the cable  company 
to bundle programming to our homes ?  Or does HD programming  require too 
much bandwidth ?  And does it have to be a coaxial connection  ?  Can satellite 
provide the bandwidth ?
 
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From tbng at comcast.net  Tue Aug 21 21:03:00 2007
From: tbng at comcast.net (Dennis W. Brandt)
Date: Tue Aug 21 21:00:29 2007
Subject: [NU Sports] TV  and sports
References: <d59.11907195.33fcea5f@aol.com>
Message-ID: <001301c7e460$912da6f0$c402a8c0@DennisMachine>

All this is possible now with fiber optics - if you're willing to pay for it and the cable company thinks there is a profit in it.
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: CHerron604@aol.com 
  To: Alan.Abrahamson@nbcsports.com ; clzahn@mindspring.com ; tbng@comcast.net 
  Cc: nwu-sports@tssi.com 
  Sent: Tuesday, August 21, 2007 9:24 PM
  Subject: Re: [NU Sports] TV and sports


  I'll ask this as a basic cable guy - is it anticipated that there will be a point when you have one 'wire' going into your home, providing very high-speed internet ?  And will we also be able to download this week's episode of 'House' (or whatever) ?  And/or stream the NU/Iowa game, to be watched in real-time, or sent to our digital video recorder ?  I guess I'm asking - do the experts believe we will ever reach a point where we don't need the cable company to bundle programming to our homes ?  Or does HD programming require too much bandwidth ?  And does it have to be a coaxial connection ?  Can satellite provide the bandwidth ?

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From jonathanwhodges at gmail.com  Tue Aug 21 21:26:51 2007
From: jonathanwhodges at gmail.com (Jonathan Hodges)
Date: Tue Aug 21 21:24:13 2007
Subject: [NU Sports] TV and sports
In-Reply-To: <001301c7e460$912da6f0$c402a8c0@DennisMachine>
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Verizon is already doing this in select locations on the East Coast (FiOS
service - fiber optic to the doorstep, basically).  AT&T is approaching it
slightly differently, offering fiber optic to the neighborhood level and
then copper wire into homes, although the bandwidth is much higher - hence
allowing them to offer their U-verse TV option.  In Illinois, the the bill
HB1500/SB678 was signed into law in June, which allows more competition
(cable companies get approval at the state instead of local level) but on
the flipside it allows statewide franchises much more access to public right
of ways to construct their network.  Despite the increased competition, many
consumer groups were against this (although improvements were made over the
original version of the bill).  For more information see here:
http://www.freepress.net/statetracker/=IL

In just a few years, expect regular analog cable to go away completely,
leaving only digital cable (which allows much more efficient use of
bandwidth and therefore more channels and more HD).  This means getting
"free" cable will become virtually impossible as you must have a set top box
and smart card to decrypt the content, and these set top boxes will not
allow digital output at all.  Of course this would make "a la carte" channel
selection quite possible, although since the cable/satellite providers are
so against it, I doubt that will ever happen.

Jonathan

On 8/21/07, Dennis W. Brandt <tbng@comcast.net> wrote:
>
> All this is possible now with fiber optics - if you're willing to pay for
> it and the cable company thinks there is a profit in it.
>   ----- Original Message -----
>   From: CHerron604@aol.com
>   To: Alan.Abrahamson@nbcsports.com ; clzahn@mindspring.com ;
> tbng@comcast.net
>   Cc: nwu-sports@tssi.com
>   Sent: Tuesday, August 21, 2007 9:24 PM
>   Subject: Re: [NU Sports] TV and sports
>
>
>   I'll ask this as a basic cable guy - is it anticipated that there will
> be a point when you have one 'wire' going into your home, providing very
> high-speed internet ?  And will we also be able to download this week's
> episode of 'House' (or whatever) ?  And/or stream the NU/Iowa game, to be
> watched in real-time, or sent to our digital video recorder ?  I guess I'm
> asking - do the experts believe we will ever reach a point where we don't
> need the cable company to bundle programming to our homes ?  Or does HD
> programming require too much bandwidth ?  And does it have to be a coaxial
> connection ?  Can satellite provide the bandwidth ?
>
>   Chuck Herron   Tech '85
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
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From tbng at comcast.net  Wed Aug 22 06:03:09 2007
From: tbng at comcast.net (Dennis W. Brandt)
Date: Wed Aug 22 06:00:37 2007
Subject: [NU Sports] A la carte
References: <d59.11907195.33fcea5f@aol.com>
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<this would make "a la carte" channel selection quite possible, although since the cable/satellite providers are so against it, I doubt that will ever happen.

I disagree.  Everyone I know with cable or satellite complains that they are paying for so much they never watch.  I doubt we'll return to the channel-by-channel option of C-band days, but I do see more tiering of channels by type in the not-too-distant future.  Because the industry won't do it, I see Congress getting involved.  Remember, the automobile manufacturers fought required seat belts, emissions devices, and air bags. They lost.  Business will always fight to keep costs down, but in the end they manage.  If General Motors and Ford are failing, it has nothing to do with safety and emissions equipment.  Might some channels go off the air because of tiering?  Probably.  They call that the free enterprise system.  Laws that deny fair competition ultimately cost the consumer.
From jeff.beamsley at hilgraeve.com  Wed Aug 22 10:12:02 2007
From: jeff.beamsley at hilgraeve.com (Jeff Beamsley)
Date: Wed Aug 22 10:11:23 2007
Subject: [NU Sports] TV  and sports
In-Reply-To: <200708211502.l7LF2qoC026652@romaine.tssi.com>
References: <46CA7342.5000502@mindspring.com> from "Clark Zahn" at Aug 20,
	2007 10:08:18 PM <200708211502.l7LF2qoC026652@romaine.tssi.com>
Message-ID: <4B7B2D00D59EFB4BAF0FAAE7D5B14E0CCEA50E@exchange-prod.hilgraeve.com>

As long as we are tolerating extended discussions about cable let me toss my
two cents in.

I think that this is much ado about nothing.

The only advantage that the cable companies have is an almost monopoly on
transport since there is only one set of fiber/cable coming into your house.
They have leveraged that position into one of providing additional services
like phone and internet and eating some of the phone company's lunch.  They
understand that the Internet is going to quickly displace them as a the
source of content so they are doing their best to control as much of the
content spectrum as they can.  But they are going to fail for all the reasons
that everyone put out here and more.  

As soon as streaming video over the internet becomes simple and inexpensive
and the divide between TV and computer disappears, every content provider
will have the opportunity to stream HD quality content and cut their own
deals directly with consumers.  The choices will multiply quickly and prices
will come back down to levels that more closely reflect cost and value.

The dish networks to some extend demonstrate the premise, but their
deployment costs are such that they are not going to be able to compete once
the Internet becomes the dominant distribution medium.  They will remain a
niche player for that segment of the marketplace that is "unwireable".

This is all dependent, BTW on the Internet remaining a level playing field
for all participants.  There is a strong lobby effort by the current set of
large players to allow those that provide Internet bandwidth to offer
variable access to that bandwidth.  In the context of this discussion, that
would mean that Commcast, my Internet provider, could levy an extra tax on
all those content providers who wanted to compete with Commcast to deliver HD
quality streaming video.  Those who didn't want to pay that tax would be
throughput "throttled" at least on the Commcast network.  Whether that tax
was paid by the provider or the consumer (or both) those fees would
ultimately result in higher costs essentially preserving some form of the
current system.  Make sure your elected representatives are not in the pocket
of some cable or phone company lobbyist the next time this comes up for a
vote.

Jeff

-----Original Message-----
From: nwu-sports-bounces@tssi.com [mailto:nwu-sports-bounces@tssi.com] On
Behalf Of Mike Nolan
Sent: Tuesday, August 21, 2007 11:03 AM
To: Clark Zahn
Cc: nwu-sports@tssi.com
Subject: Re: [NU Sports] TV and sports

> There are lots of channels in the basic package that far less than 39% 
> of the subscribers view.  You'd have to be a TV addict to watch even a 
> majority of the channels.  In Big Ten country I would expect the BTN 
> to be one of the higher rated channels.

The Wall Street Journal site had an article recently talking about how the
NFL may finally have bitten off more than it can chew with their new NFL
Network channel, which many cable operators are not carrying because of the
high cost and low perceived demand.  

This article also mentioned ESPN's (mostly) successful strategy of paying
top-dollar (and in the process redefining what 'top dollar' means) for events
then jacking up the per-subscriber fee to cable operators to carry the ESPN
family of channels.  (I think it's ironic that now that my cable operator has
finally added ESPNU to the mix, there may not be any games on it I'm
interested in this season.)

It also cited problems that the Big 10 Network is having with cable operators
balking at carrying it.  If that's true, it isn't likely to be one of the
higher rated channels even in Big 10 country.

I'm not convinced ala carte pricing will save me anything on my cable bill,
which currently adds up to several hundred dollars a month.  I've already
decided I will NOT purchase ESPN Game Plan this season, last year I think I
got TWO games I was really interested in on Game Plan all season, and fewer
games overall than in 2005.

Personally, I think the cable operators should have to pay ME for including
the shopping channels.  
--
Mike Nolan

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From nolan at romaine.tssi.com  Wed Aug 22 10:50:16 2007
From: nolan at romaine.tssi.com (Mike Nolan)
Date: Wed Aug 22 10:50:19 2007
Subject: [NU Sports] TV  and sports
In-Reply-To: <4B7B2D00D59EFB4BAF0FAAE7D5B14E0CCEA50E@exchange-prod.hilgraeve.com>
	from "Jeff Beamsley" at Aug 22, 2007 11:12:02 AM
Message-ID: <200708221550.l7MFoGEZ029671@romaine.tssi.com>

> I think that this is much ado about nothing.

Oh I disagree here, there are BILLIONS of dollars at stake here!

The current issue is over who gets their pipline into your house.  Many 
if not most people have 3 different wires coming into their house now:  
electricity, phone and cable.  

As I understand it, all three are (or will be) capable of supporting gigabit 
over copper.  (Fiber to the house is IMHO not likely to be a major player
because of the infrastructure costs to string it, and gigabit speeds
over copper isn't likely to be the high end of that protocol either.  When
they figure out how to do terabit over copper, who needs fiber?)

The initial battle will be over who gets control of that pipeline and 
the extent to which it is shared.  (I have both DSL and cable internet,
for example, because I need higher availability than either the phone
company or the cable company can individually delver.)

How will this affect sports viewers?  Hard to say, but in the long run
I doubt we'll see any savings, even with ala carte pricing, because
the REAL money is in the information content, not in the delivery of it.
And as ESPN has already demonstrated, they can pretty much ask whatever 
they want, there are enough people out there who'll pay it.
--
Mike Nolan

From jeff.beamsley at hilgraeve.com  Wed Aug 22 11:00:46 2007
From: jeff.beamsley at hilgraeve.com (Jeff Beamsley)
Date: Wed Aug 22 11:00:03 2007
Subject: [NU Sports] TV  and sports
In-Reply-To: <200708221550.l7MFoGEZ029671@romaine.tssi.com>
References: <4B7B2D00D59EFB4BAF0FAAE7D5B14E0CCEA50E@exchange-prod.hilgraeve.com>
	from "Jeff Beamsley" at Aug 22,
	2007 11:12:02 AM <200708221550.l7MFoGEZ029671@romaine.tssi.com>
Message-ID: <4B7B2D00D59EFB4BAF0FAAE7D5B14E0CCEA51E@exchange-prod.hilgraeve.com>

Mike,

I agree that the stakes are huge.  That's not what I meant.

I meant the carping about pricing and how the cable companies go about their
business is really missing the point.

There is a sea change coming and we have to pay attention to how that rolls
out to make sure that we don't allow all of the things that we don't like in
the cable/phone space to end up being replicated in the high-speed version of
the Internet that's coming.

Jeff


-----Original Message-----
From: Mike Nolan [mailto:nolan@romaine.tssi.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, August 22, 2007 11:50 AM
To: Jeff Beamsley
Cc: nwu-sports@tssi.com
Subject: Re: [NU Sports] TV and sports

> I think that this is much ado about nothing.

Oh I disagree here, there are BILLIONS of dollars at stake here!

The current issue is over who gets their pipline into your house.  Many if
not most people have 3 different wires coming into their house now:  
electricity, phone and cable.  

As I understand it, all three are (or will be) capable of supporting gigabit
over copper.  (Fiber to the house is IMHO not likely to be a major player
because of the infrastructure costs to string it, and gigabit speeds over
copper isn't likely to be the high end of that protocol either.  When they
figure out how to do terabit over copper, who needs fiber?)

The initial battle will be over who gets control of that pipeline and the
extent to which it is shared.  (I have both DSL and cable internet, for
example, because I need higher availability than either the phone company or
the cable company can individually delver.)

How will this affect sports viewers?  Hard to say, but in the long run I
doubt we'll see any savings, even with ala carte pricing, because the REAL
money is in the information content, not in the delivery of it.
And as ESPN has already demonstrated, they can pretty much ask whatever they
want, there are enough people out there who'll pay it.
--
Mike Nolan

From rstetson at capps-assoc.com  Wed Aug 22 17:34:11 2007
From: rstetson at capps-assoc.com (Roy Lamberton)
Date: Wed Aug 22 17:24:40 2007
Subject: [NU Sports] TV  and sports
In-Reply-To: <4B7B2D00D59EFB4BAF0FAAE7D5B14E0CCEA51E@exchange-prod.hilgraeve.com>
References: <4B7B2D00D59EFB4BAF0FAAE7D5B14E0CCEA50E@exchange-prod.hilgraeve.com>	from
	"Jeff Beamsley" at Aug 22,
	2007 11:12:02 AM <200708221550.l7MFoGEZ029671@romaine.tssi.com>
	<4B7B2D00D59EFB4BAF0FAAE7D5B14E0CCEA51E@exchange-prod.hilgraeve.com>
Message-ID: <007c01c7e50c$8ff07fe0$afd17fa0$@com>

I think we miss the point about the two cash flow models that the program
suppliers use. 

1. Is the per subscriber model, the way Weather Channel, CNN, and the base ESPN
channels work - they charge so much per subscriber, originally around a nickel
per month a location. 2. Is the pay per view model, as cable got up to 1000
channels, this has started to become more of a cash stream, but not really.

Verizon is betting the farm on the east coast that fiber down the street and
into the house with TV, Phone and Internet is the way to go. My son had it in
Damascus, MD and it was nothing short of spectacular, altho they don't have the
TV worked out everywhere just yet. The argument about phone lines is also
starting to fade out as more and more folks start using cell phones as primary
phones. The biggest obsticle to this is the cable industry's fighting of any
competition by keeping everything locally franchised.  

Comcast is also trying to play in the VOIP, TV and Internet world but they're
still living on coax everywhere. They would prefer to have more tiers of service
and charge $5-15 per month to watch them. They have to deal with the
programmable box on the top of the set, which is a royal pain at times when the
signals get degraded, but by and large, their system does deliver programming,
altho you can make the case that its expensive.

The mobile phone world is really starting to move in on Cable and the other
Phone services by providing WIFI type services at a fairly reasonable price over
your phone. They already have their equipment installed and don't have to add
more fiber or copper down the street. They also don't have to rent space on the
telephone poles to work.

The rest of the wired world is worried that Verizon will pull down all of their
copper when they get the fiber to each house. Its hard cut prices when you have
to run your own copper instead of renting the phone companies.

The issue in all of the internet TV protocols is that the suppliers want to
charge the ISP's a fixed amount for every subscriber on their service,
regardless of which sub uses which service. Its why ESPN 360 does not run on the
major cable companies, even at 5 cents a sub, a million subscribers is just too
much money [in the minds of the cable outfits] to hand over for something that
eats a lot of bandwidth.

Now, once you get outside the towns and cities, the costs of running cables gets
pretty expensive, which is the entre for the satellite services. Their problem
is that their uplink costs are fairly high compared to using Comcast or Fios.

I wish we could buy sports events on the web by the program, but given the fact
that all these individual service providers [like the Big 10 Network] are
projecting giant profits to get funding, the per subscriber model will be the
one used for a while. I know its BTN, Turner and ESPN's model.


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The Scout.com Northwestern University Site
(http://www.purplewildcats.com)
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: nwu-sports-bounces@tssi.com [mailto:nwu-sports-bounces@tssi.com] On
> Behalf Of Jeff Beamsley
> Sent: Wednesday, August 22, 2007 12:01 PM
> To: nwu-sports@tssi.com
> Subject: RE: [NU Sports] TV and sports
> 
> Mike,
> 
> I agree that the stakes are huge.  That's not what I meant.
> 
> I meant the carping about pricing and how the cable companies go about
> their
> business is really missing the point.
> 
> There is a sea change coming and we have to pay attention to how that rolls
> out to make sure that we don't allow all of the things that we don't like
> in
> the cable/phone space to end up being replicated in the high-speed version
> of
> the Internet that's coming.
> 
> Jeff
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Mike Nolan [mailto:nolan@romaine.tssi.com]
> Sent: Wednesday, August 22, 2007 11:50 AM
> To: Jeff Beamsley
> Cc: nwu-sports@tssi.com
> Subject: Re: [NU Sports] TV and sports
> 
> > I think that this is much ado about nothing.
> 
> Oh I disagree here, there are BILLIONS of dollars at stake here!
> 
> The current issue is over who gets their pipline into your house.  Many if
> not most people have 3 different wires coming into their house now:
> electricity, phone and cable.
> 
> As I understand it, all three are (or will be) capable of supporting
> gigabit
> over copper.  (Fiber to the house is IMHO not likely to be a major player
> because of the infrastructure costs to string it, and gigabit speeds over
> copper isn't likely to be the high end of that protocol either.  When they
> figure out how to do terabit over copper, who needs fiber?)
> 
> The initial battle will be over who gets control of that pipeline and the
> extent to which it is shared.  (I have both DSL and cable internet, for
> example, because I need higher availability than either the phone company
> or
> the cable company can individually delver.)
> 
> How will this affect sports viewers?  Hard to say, but in the long run I
> doubt we'll see any savings, even with ala carte pricing, because the REAL
> money is in the information content, not in the delivery of it.
> And as ESPN has already demonstrated, they can pretty much ask whatever
> they
> want, there are enough people out there who'll pay it.
> --
> Mike Nolan
> 
> _______________________________________________
> nwu-sports site list
> nwu-sports@tssi.com
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From johnadeg at comcast.net  Wed Aug 22 22:11:53 2007
From: johnadeg at comcast.net (johnadeg@comcast.net)
Date: Wed Aug 22 22:08:47 2007
Subject: [NU Sports] A la carte
Message-ID: <082320070311.21531.46CCFAF9000CF94C0000541B2216525806090A0B0E02080106@comcast.net>

If or when Congress gets involved, the only thing that you can be certain of is that whatever "solution" it comes up with will screw things up and only benefit whoever the biggest donors are  to their campaigns.

John DeGroat 
 -------------- Original message ----------------------
From: "Dennis W. Brandt" <tbng@comcast.net>
> <this would make "a la carte" channel selection quite possible, although since 
> the cable/satellite providers are so against it, I doubt that will ever happen.
> 
> I disagree.  Everyone I know with cable or satellite complains that they are 
> paying for so much they never watch.  I doubt we'll return to the 
> channel-by-channel option of C-band days, but I do see more tiering of channels 
> by type in the not-too-distant future.  Because the industry won't do it, I see 
> Congress getting involved.  Remember, the automobile manufacturers fought 
> required seat belts, emissions devices, and air bags. They lost.  Business will 
> always fight to keep costs down, but in the end they manage.  If General Motors 
> and Ford are failing, it has nothing to do with safety and emissions equipment.  
> Might some channels go off the air because of tiering?  Probably.  They call 
> that the free enterprise system.  Laws that deny fair competition ultimately 
> cost the consumer.
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From tmcadams at yahoo.com  Fri Aug 24 13:08:52 2007
From: tmcadams at yahoo.com (Trey McAdams)
Date: Fri Aug 24 13:05:07 2007
Subject: [NU Sports] Top 100 Beatdowns
Message-ID: <495705.49876.qm@web52206.mail.re2.yahoo.com>


I think that we dodged a bullet by not being listed in the attached link to this list of Top 100 Beatdowns.

http://sports.espn.go.com/espn/page2/story?page=schoenfield/070823

Unfortunately, I think that we have a couple of games that are worthy of consideration:

- Sun Bowl versus UCLA
- 2nd Half of Michigan State Game in 2006
 - but most likely would be the 2000 Alamo Bowl versus Nebraska.  We gave up 31(easily could have been 42) in the 2nd period and a bowl record of 66 points.  I remember overhearing a couple of guys talking at the consession stand.  Guy #1 "When was the last time you saw a team hang 31 on someone in a quarter?".  Guy 2 "I saw the Spurs do it last night."

On the plus side - It was nice to see the evil empire get a couple of mentions on the wrong side of a beatdown.






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From jmccull at insight.rr.com  Fri Aug 24 13:28:41 2007
From: jmccull at insight.rr.com (J.R. McCullough)
Date: Fri Aug 24 13:25:20 2007
Subject: [NU Sports] Madden 2008
Message-ID: <001c01c7e67c$9947ef30$6701a8c0@JROFFICEHP>

I picked up Madden 2008, which has a new feature this year called "weapons." Players with dominant skills are singled out for their unique abilities. During the pre-game introductions, the game highlights key players on each team, and identifies their weapon.

I was playing against San Diego, and our own Luis Castillo was highlighted as a dominant "power move" D-lineman. The announcer even said "...from Northwestern...."

Very cool.


On a related note, I refuse to buy the NCAA football game until they correctly model Ryan Field. You would think that a Big Ten stadium would be modeled before some of the WAC stadiums. Very frustrating...even more so because it was modeled in earlier versions (2006 and prior).

J.R.
From jmccull at insight.rr.com  Fri Aug 24 13:34:19 2007
From: jmccull at insight.rr.com (J.R. McCullough)
Date: Fri Aug 24 13:30:57 2007
Subject: [NU Sports] New content on Fox Sports
Message-ID: <002501c7e67d$626d9e00$6701a8c0@JROFFICEHP>

http://msn.foxsports.com/cfb/story/7142886

http://msn.foxsports.com/cfb/story/7142408

http://msn.foxsports.com/cfb/story/7142410
From CHerron604 at aol.com  Fri Aug 24 22:37:42 2007
From: CHerron604 at aol.com (CHerron604@aol.com)
Date: Fri Aug 24 22:37:57 2007
Subject: [NU Sports] Weather
Message-ID: <c22.1c991a62.3400fe06@aol.com>

Anybody seen the campus today ?  Chicago local newscasts showed trees  
uprooted and other storm damage in Kenilworth, Park Ridge, DesPlaines and  Lakeview 
in the city.  Also power outages all over the North Suburbs.   Did our campus 
come out ok ?
 
Chuck Herron   Tech '85



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From jonathanwhodges at gmail.com  Sat Aug 25 08:24:55 2007
From: jonathanwhodges at gmail.com (Jonathan Hodges)
Date: Sat Aug 25 08:21:28 2007
Subject: [NU Sports] Weather
In-Reply-To: <c22.1c991a62.3400fe06@aol.com>
References: <c22.1c991a62.3400fe06@aol.com>
Message-ID: <fcb3ee270708250624i7eaee7a0td0008dc1329d8723@mail.gmail.com>

I live a couple blocks away and Evanston got off pretty easy - some areas
were without power (although I never lost power at my place) and generally
there weren't any big trees/limbs down, only some minor debris.  Wilmette
and north got it bad though, and Winnetka looked like a disaster area with
trees and big limbs down in every yard, power lines down, and most of the
roads flooded (on Thursday evening; I drove through on my way home from
work, not a good idea).  They are still working on restoring power to many
areas.

Jonathan

On 8/24/07, CHerron604@aol.com <CHerron604@aol.com> wrote:
>
> Anybody seen the campus today ?  Chicago local newscasts showed trees
> uprooted and other storm damage in Kenilworth, Park Ridge, DesPlaines
> and  Lakeview
> in the city.  Also power outages all over the North Suburbs.   Did our
> campus
> come out ok ?
>
> Chuck Herron   Tech '85
>
>
>
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From CHerron604 at aol.com  Sat Aug 25 15:03:43 2007
From: CHerron604 at aol.com (CHerron604@aol.com)
Date: Sat Aug 25 15:01:22 2007
Subject: [NU Sports] Sagarins are in...
Message-ID: <c63.1899c81e.3401e51f@aol.com>

And they're predicting we will go 6-6, 2-6 in the conference.  They  
predicted 4-8, 1-7 for the Hoosiers, and 2-10, 0-8 for Illinois.  NU and  Indiana 
caught breaks, NU missing Wisconsin and Penn State, and IU missing OSU  and 
Michigan.  Illinois doesn't fare so well, missing Purdue and Michigan  State.  
 
Also encouraging is the fact that 3 of our predicted mid-season defeats  look 
like they could be close games (at MSU, we're 7 point underdogs, hosting  the 
Gophers, we're 6 point underdogs, and hosting Iowa, we're predicted to be 8  
point underdogs.  And, since we beat the Spartans 2 years ago at their  place, 
and beat Iowa last year at their place, we have some recent success  against 
those programs)
 
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From christopher_bailey at yahoo.com  Sun Aug 26 12:35:24 2007
From: christopher_bailey at yahoo.com (Christopher Bailey)
Date: Sun Aug 26 12:31:30 2007
Subject: [NU Sports] news items (and a question)
Message-ID: <368275.47853.qm@web60322.mail.yahoo.com>

Not sure if Coach Roy caught these or not

Future Wildcat Brian Mulroe protects Loyola's most valuable asset









Chicago Sun-Times
August 22, 2007



By Patrick Z. McGavin
http://highschoolsports.suntimes.com/recruiting/520487,082407mulroe.article

Northwestern's Alaskan pipeline
Chicago Tribune


	
	August 23, 2007

By Skip Myslenski

http://chicagosports.chicagotribune.com/sports/college/cs-070823nu,1,5169229.story?coll=cs-college-headlines

No camp, no worries: Sutton is feeling frisky


Chicago Tribune

	
	August 23, 2007
By Skip Myslenski
http://chicagosports.chicagotribune.com/sports/college/cs-070824nubits,1,7150443.story?coll=cs-college-headlines





QUESTION: I know the Tribune and Sun-Times both rotate their reporters so that no one reporter is on the same beat for an extended period of time (a habit, as far as I can tell, that is unusual in the industry).  What I'm wondering, what my mother more to the point is wondering, is this: is Myslenski the new NU beat writer this year?  Yes, he's covered them in the past on individual pieces, but will he be the regular NU guy for the Trib this year?

Thanks in advance from myself and my parents back in Chicago.

LETS GO 'CATS!
Christopher Bailey
christopher_bailey@yahoo.com




From rstetson at capps-assoc.com  Sun Aug 26 17:47:31 2007
From: rstetson at capps-assoc.com (Roy Lamberton)
Date: Sun Aug 26 17:37:31 2007
Subject: [NU Sports] news items (and a question)
In-Reply-To: <368275.47853.qm@web60322.mail.yahoo.com>
References: <368275.47853.qm@web60322.mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <000201c7e833$166dcfe0$43496fa0$@com>

Skip has always had part of the NU beat - he's been the columnist on our stories
for quite a while, and you can often find him in the same watering holes as the
NU coaches, not that any of the drink to excess....

However, it appears that he's now the regular NU reporter, at least since August
since he's been the only writer covering NU for the Trib.

FWIW - Alan Sutton seems to be covering basketball recruiting on the women's
side for the Trib.


rsl


++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
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> 
> QUESTION: I know the Tribune and Sun-Times both rotate their reporters so
> that no one reporter is on the same beat for an extended period of time (a
> habit, as far as I can tell, that is unusual in the industry).  What I'm
> wondering, what my mother more to the point is wondering, is this: is
> Myslenski the new NU beat writer this year?  Yes, he's covered them in the
> past on individual pieces, but will he be the regular NU guy for the Trib
> this year?
> 
> Thanks in advance from myself and my parents back in Chicago.
> 
> LETS GO 'CATS!
> Christopher Bailey
> christopher_bailey@yahoo.com
> 
> 
> 
> 
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From tbng at comcast.net  Sun Aug 26 19:10:14 2007
From: tbng at comcast.net (Dennis W. Brandt)
Date: Sun Aug 26 19:06:56 2007
Subject: [NU Sports] Big 10 Network
References: <368275.47853.qm@web60322.mail.yahoo.com>
	<000201c7e833$166dcfe0$43496fa0$@com>
Message-ID: <000601c7e83e$a4f53c20$c402a8c0@DennisMachine>

I got a clarification from Directv today.  They actually called me on a 
Sunday in response to an e-mail question.  There will only be channel 220, 
no alternate channels, no multiple simultaneous broadcasts.  That means 
whatever one game the Big 10 Network decides to show is what you get, 
although there may be taped delays.  Directv, unlike my local cable, will 
not permit one weekend of ESPN+.  It's all season or nothing.  It's not 
looking good for NU football on TV this season. 

From thehaze at earthlink.net  Sun Aug 26 19:18:50 2007
From: thehaze at earthlink.net (Jim Bendat)
Date: Sun Aug 26 19:15:12 2007
Subject: [NU Sports] Big 10 Network
In-Reply-To: <000601c7e83e$a4f53c20$c402a8c0@DennisMachine>
References: <368275.47853.qm@web60322.mail.yahoo.com>	<000201c7e833$166dcfe0$43496fa0$@com>
	<000601c7e83e$a4f53c20$c402a8c0@DennisMachine>
Message-ID: <46D2186A.8010702@earthlink.net>

I believe -- and hope -- that the person with whom Dennis spoke is 
wrong.   Everything we've heard from Mark Silverman (head of the BTN)  
has  led us to believe that there will be alternate channels.  We'll 
find out soon enough.  And,  I'm sure  Dennis meant  ESPN Game Plan, 
rather than ESPN+.


Dennis W. Brandt wrote:
> I got a clarification from Directv today.  They actually called me on 
> a Sunday in response to an e-mail question.  There will only be 
> channel 220, no alternate channels, no multiple simultaneous 
> broadcasts.  That means whatever one game the Big 10 Network decides 
> to show is what you get, although there may be taped delays.  Directv, 
> unlike my local cable, will not permit one weekend of ESPN+.  It's all 
> season or nothing.  It's not looking good for NU football on TV this 
> season.

From sjtruog at yahoo.com  Sun Aug 26 19:21:23 2007
From: sjtruog at yahoo.com (SjT (Stephen J. Truog))
Date: Sun Aug 26 19:17:29 2007
Subject: [NU Sports] PIGSKIN PICKS - Week 1
Message-ID: <663971.49925.qm@web52910.mail.re2.yahoo.com>

Hopefully everyone on the list knows about the Pigskin
Picks by now - if not, here's a short invitation to
join. We do this for fun and bragging rights only and
the Hall of Fame you'll see at the end of this message
is becoming extensive as we're entering our second
decade! The basics - all for fun, consider yourself
invited to join and have a great time! We just pick
winners (no point spreads) of all Big Ten games and
some national games of note - basically reply and fill
in the form below. Picks due to me (please, NOT to the
list) by the due date listed and standings will come
out weekly (hopefully ... for those who don't know,
I'm now teaching at the high school level, so year one
is pretty work heavy and standings may be delayed at
times:) ).

So let's get things going with the week 1 lineup ...

PIGSKIN PICKS - WEEK 1
########################
Name: 

BIG TEN
=======
GAME 1: Illinois vs. Missouri (@ St. Louis, MO)
WINNER: 

GAME 2: Indiana State @ Indiana
WINNER: 

GAME 3: Iowa @ Northern Illinois
WINNER: 

GAME 4: Appalachain State @ Michigan
WINNER: 

GAME 5: UAB @ Michigan State
WINNER: 

GAME 6: Bowling Green @ Minnesota
WINNER: 

GAME 7: Youngstown State @ Ohio State
WINNER: 

GAME 8: Florida International @ Penn State
WINNER: 

GAME 9: Purdue @ Toledo
WINNER: 

GAME 10: Washington State @ Wisconsin
WINNER: 

NATIONAL
========
GAME 11: Tennessee @ California
WINNER: 

GAME 12: Kansas State @ Auburn
WINNER: 

GAME 13: Florida State @ Clemson
WINNER: 

GAME 14: Oklahoma State @ Georgia
WINNER: 

GAME 15: Georgia Tech @ Notre Dame
WINNER: 

MY PICKS
=======
* ILLINOIS 24, Missouri 21 - Not on the Illini hype
wagon, but they will surprise a team or two this year,
starting with an overrated Big XII North contender
* INDIANA 38, Indiana State 7 - The Hoosiers come out
focused and win one for their beloved coach
* IOWA 27, Northern Illinois 23 - Give the Hawks
credit for visiting a MAC contender ... the Huskies
come close, but just miss the upset
* MICHIGAN 48, Appalachain State 0 - The Wolverines
come out looking like a contender
* MICHIGAN STATE 22, UAB 20 - So tempted to pick the
upset here, but Sparty's gotta have this one at home
... winnin' ugly!
* MINNESOTA 31, Bowling Green 21 - Gophers come alive
in the second half to win at home
* OHIO STATE 24, Youngstown State 6 - Close for a
half, but the young Buckeyes pull away late
* PENN STATE 33, Florida International 10 - Lions roll
and await the Irish
* PURDUE 46, Toledo 34 - Could be one of the more
entertaining games of the weekend ... lots of
fireworks
* WISCONSIN 27, Washington State 3 - Bucky looks
physical and dominant at home
* CALIFORNIA 30, Tennessee 23 - This time the Bears
show up for the big nonconference game
* AUBURN 20, Kansas State 14 - The Wildcats nearly
pull the upset in SEC country, but Auburn prevails
* CLEMSON 28, Florida State 24 - Big game for the ACC
... Clemson always plays well early and folds late, so
they get the win
* GEORGIA 26, Oklahoma State 21 - Another near upset
at home for an SEC power, but the Dawgs survivie late
like last year's Colorado game
* GEORGIA TECH 23, Notre Dame 17 - I'm hoping here,
because a loss means it's gonna be a disastrous
September and October for the Domers - they need to
win this one, but a new QB means early mistakes

And off the board ...
* NORTHWESTERN 27, Northeastern 17 - The Cats are
never a sure thing in the nonconference campaigns, but
they should have enough power to wear down
Northeastern in the second half.

Picks due by kickoff Saturday - have a great holiday
weekend!
GO CATS!!!
-SjT

PS - Here's the updated Hall of Fame

##################################
## PIGSKIN PICKS - HALL OF FAME ##
##################################

Winners of past years, whose names shall live forever
in immortality... (online at least):)

MATT HARTL "OVERALL EXCELLENCE" AWARD
Overall Pigskin Picks Champion
########################################
1997 - Eric J. Steffe
1998 - Carl Pilger
1999 - Eric J. Steffe
2000 - Bill Praast
2001 - Harlan Heiber
2002 - Chuck Herron
2003 - Chuck Herron
2004 - Marilyn Zilka
2005 - Alan Wolfson
2006 - Marilyn Zilka

ROB JOHNSON "IRONMAN" AWARD
Best record of those who have competed every week
####################################################
1997 - Eric J. Steffe (135-40)
1998 - Trey McAdams (120-40)
1999 - Bruce Taylor (111-39)
2000 - Steve Kandelman and Bruce Taylor (109-44)
2001 - Trey McAdams (107-43)
2002 - Chuck Herron (132-48)
2003 - Chuck Herron (130-40)
2004 - Marilyn Zilka (129-36)
2005 - Alan Wolfson (112-38)
2006 - Chuck Herron (113-37)

STEVE SCHNUR "ACCURACY" AWARD
Highest percentage - min. 5 weeks
######################################
1997 - Eric J. Steffe (.771)
1998 - Carl Pilger (.792)
1999 - Eric J. Steffe (.756)
2000 - Bill Praast (.714)
2001 - Harlan Heiber (.744)
2002 - Greg Kane (.738)
2003 - Chuck Herron (.765)
2004 - Marilyn Zilka (.782)
2005 - Alan Wolfson (.747)
2006 - Marilyn Zilka (.764)

PAT FITZGERALD "MOST HITS" AWARD
Most correct picks overall
####################################
1997 - NA
1998 - Trey McAdams (120)
1999 - Bruce Taylor (111)
2000 - Steve Kandelman and Bruce Taylor (109)
2001 - Trey McAdams (107)
2002 - Chuck Herron (132)
2003 - Chuck Herron (130)
2004 - Marilyn Zilka (129)
2005 - Alan Wolfson (112)
2006 - Chuck Herron (113)

BRIAN MUSSO "GUTSY" AWARD
Most upset special picks
############################
1997 - NA
1998 - Kelly Sevilla (10)
1999 - Jim Bendat (12)
2000 - Jim Bendat and Kelly Sevilla (13)
2001 - Jim Bendat (15)
2002 - Jim Bendat (18)
2003 - Bill O'Connor (14)
2004 - Carl Rossi (10)
2005 - Ace McInturff (14)
2006 - Ace McInturff (10)

D'WAYNE BATES "BOWL MVP" AWARD
Best performance in the postseason pool
#######################################
1997 - Mark Loach (20-1)
1998 - Jeff Larson (18-4)
1999 - Roger Bradshaw (15-8)
2000 - Carl Rossi (18-6)
2001 - Kenn Ruby (19-6)
2002 - Ty Levine (18-10)
2003 - Ryan Farney (19-8)
2004 - Ace McInturff and Ivars Embrekts (19-8)
2005 - Bob Waldele (19-8)
2006 - Mark Ament and Neil Kaplan (15-5)

* * * * * * * * *
STEPHEN J. TRUOG
sjtruog@yahoo.com
GO CATS!!!


       
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From jonathanwhodges at gmail.com  Sun Aug 26 19:21:35 2007
From: jonathanwhodges at gmail.com (Jonathan Hodges)
Date: Sun Aug 26 19:17:55 2007
Subject: [NU Sports] Big 10 Network
In-Reply-To: <000601c7e83e$a4f53c20$c402a8c0@DennisMachine>
References: <368275.47853.qm@web60322.mail.yahoo.com>
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Not good news, especially considering that the BTN officials have been
advertising that DirecTV would be carrying multiple feeds for some time -
and it seems odd that this is in direct contradiction to those statements.
It also doesn't make sense that multiple feeds would not be offered since
they will be produced and transmitted - and the only thing that DirecTV can
do is "regionalize" or only allow subscribers in certain zip codes access to
games - although with the satellite technology used all of the other games
would be transmitted but blocked (much like local channels now that are all
transmitted but only certain channels are allowed to be pickedu p depending
on the region).

Jonathan

On 8/26/07, Dennis W. Brandt <tbng@comcast.net> wrote:
>
> I got a clarification from Directv today.  They actually called me on a
> Sunday in response to an e-mail question.  There will only be channel 220,
> no alternate channels, no multiple simultaneous broadcasts.  That means
> whatever one game the Big 10 Network decides to show is what you get,
> although there may be taped delays.  Directv, unlike my local cable, will
> not permit one weekend of ESPN+.  It's all season or nothing.  It's not
> looking good for NU football on TV this season.
>
> _______________________________________________
> nwu-sports site list
> nwu-sports@tssi.com
> http://romaine.tssi.com/mailman/listinfo/nwu-sports
>



-- 
Jonathan W. Hodges
1237 Emerson St Apt 2
Evanston, IL  60201-3577
(847) 736-2449
jonathanwhodges@gmail.com
From clzahn at mindspring.com  Sun Aug 26 19:46:24 2007
From: clzahn at mindspring.com (Clark Zahn)
Date: Sun Aug 26 19:43:03 2007
Subject: [NU Sports] Big 10 Network
In-Reply-To: <000601c7e83e$a4f53c20$c402a8c0@DennisMachine>
References: <368275.47853.qm@web60322.mail.yahoo.com>	<000201c7e833$166dcfe0$43496fa0$@com>
	<000601c7e83e$a4f53c20$c402a8c0@DennisMachine>
Message-ID: <46D21EE0.1020401@mindspring.com>

Dennis W. Brandt wrote:
> I got a clarification from Directv today.  They actually called me on 
> a Sunday in response to an e-mail question.  There will only be 
> channel 220, no alternate channels, no multiple simultaneous 
> broadcasts.  That means whatever one game the Big 10 Network decides 
> to show is what you get, although there may be taped delays.  Directv, 
> unlike my local cable, will not permit one weekend of ESPN+.  It's all 
> season or nothing.  It's not looking good for NU football on TV this 
> season.
> _______________________________________________
>

That sounds strange!  In the past Directv has never had the offering on 
a particular channel vary from area to area.  Some games were blacked 
out but they were still there.  Since all of the BIg10 home games will 
be televised that means they would have to invent a new technology that 
hasn't been used before to show all of the games live yet use only one 
channel.  Either that or only one game would be shown live and all the 
rest would be tape delayed.  I can't imagine that happening.  We'll have 
to wait and see what happens.

Clark Zahn




From michael.vance at att.net  Sun Aug 26 23:26:03 2007
From: michael.vance at att.net (Michael Vance)
Date: Sun Aug 26 23:22:47 2007
Subject: [NU Sports] Big 10 Network
In-Reply-To: <46D21EE0.1020401@mindspring.com>
References: <368275.47853.qm@web60322.mail.yahoo.com>	<000201c7e833$166dcfe0$43496fa0$@com>	<000601c7e83e$a4f53c20$c402a8c0@DennisMachine>
	<46D21EE0.1020401@mindspring.com>
Message-ID: <46D2525B.5040706@att.net>

Has anyone heard what the schedule will be?  I figure that it won't be 
that difficult to show every conference game live most Saturdays *if* -- 
and I realize that this is a big if -- they have two 3:30 (Eastern) 
games and a night game each week.  You simply have a 12:00 ESPN game, a 
3:30 ABC game, and games in each of those timeslots on BTN, then a night 
game at 8:00 on either ABC or BTN, whichever picks it up.

The team that has their conference off-week, which everyone has filled 
with their 12th game, would be the odd man out.  I haven't checked to 
see how many of those look to be good games.  I doubt very many since 
they were mostly relatively last-minute fills when the 12th game was 
permitted.

If anyone has seen or heard details on kickoff times, I'd love to hear them.

BTW, my wife and I ditched Insight Cable and switched to DirecTV for BTN 
and because we got $300 off a new HDTV at Best Buy (Circuit City and 
others have the same offer) when you sign up for DirecTV when you buy 
the TV.  DirecTV also has a deal going where you can get their top 
channel lineup free for four months if you buy NFL Sunday Ticket.  It 
ends up costing about the same as the mid-level channel lineup and you 
get football out the wazoo!  The only downside is that it's not the HD 
version of Sunday Ticket and you have to remember to downgrade your 
channel lineup at the end of the offer or you end up having to pay full 
price for it.

-Michael

Clark Zahn wrote:
> Dennis W. Brandt wrote:
>> I got a clarification from Directv today.  They actually called me on 
>> a Sunday in response to an e-mail question.  There will only be 
>> channel 220, no alternate channels, no multiple simultaneous 
>> broadcasts.  That means whatever one game the Big 10 Network decides 
>> to show is what you get, although there may be taped delays.  
>> Directv, unlike my local cable, will not permit one weekend of 
>> ESPN+.  It's all season or nothing.  It's not looking good for NU 
>> football on TV this season.
>> _______________________________________________
>>
>
> That sounds strange!  In the past Directv has never had the offering 
> on a particular channel vary from area to area.  Some games were 
> blacked out but they were still there.  Since all of the BIg10 home 
> games will be televised that means they would have to invent a new 
> technology that hasn't been used before to show all of the games live 
> yet use only one channel.  Either that or only one game would be shown 
> live and all the rest would be tape delayed.  I can't imagine that 
> happening.  We'll have to wait and see what happens.
>
> Clark Zahn
>
>
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> nwu-sports site list
> nwu-sports@tssi.com
> http://romaine.tssi.com/mailman/listinfo/nwu-sports
>

From jonathanwhodges at gmail.com  Mon Aug 27 06:04:40 2007
From: jonathanwhodges at gmail.com (Jonathan Hodges)
Date: Mon Aug 27 06:01:04 2007
Subject: [NU Sports] Big 10 Network
In-Reply-To: <46D2525B.5040706@att.net>
References: <368275.47853.qm@web60322.mail.yahoo.com>
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	<46D21EE0.1020401@mindspring.com> <46D2525B.5040706@att.net>
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I found this site with a matrix of all games and starting times for college
football 2007:

http://www.strangestbrew.com/cfb_sched/cfb.html

Apparently they have all of NU's starting times listed (despite the fact
that NU athletics has only confirmed 6 of them).  Here is the list (*
denotes NU confirmation):

NU vs. Northeastern - 11AM*
NU vs. Nevada - 11AM*
NU vs. Duke - 7PM*
NU @ OSU - 2:30PM
NU vs. Michigan - 12PM
NU @ MSU - 11AM
NU vs. Minnesota - 11AM*
NU @ EMU - 6PM (Fri)*
NU @ Purdue - 11AM*
NU vs. Iowa - 11AM
NU vs. Indiana - 11AM
NU @ Illinois - 7PM

This is an interesting revelation as game times are typically announced
after TV network/time selection (2 weeks in advance of game) except for
pre-announced night games and homecoming games.  Interesting game times to
note: 2:30 @ OSU - probably an ABC game.  12PM @ UM - unknown, but an
unusual start time.  7PM @ Illinois - interesting night game choice;
probably a BTN Game as I'm sure ESPN wouldn't select that for a night game
as of now.

Of course I have no idea where these game times came from so they could very
well be wrong, but it is interesting that they are already filled in.

In terms of the BTN, it will probably be a wait and see if you get the games
type thing, and I wouldn't doubt fans getting left in the dark again - even
those who switched to BTN.  Imagine how angry fans will get if they went
through the hassle of switching to DTV only to find out their game of choice
isn't being broadcast live?  If that happens (since the BTN has already
promised simulcasting games) then the BTN will be on the quick road to
failure.

Jonathan


On 8/26/07, Michael Vance <michael.vance@att.net> wrote:
>
> Has anyone heard what the schedule will be?  I figure that it won't be
> that difficult to show every conference game live most Saturdays *if* --
> and I realize that this is a big if -- they have two 3:30 (Eastern)
> games and a night game each week.  You simply have a 12:00 ESPN game, a
> 3:30 ABC game, and games in each of those timeslots on BTN, then a night
> game at 8:00 on either ABC or BTN, whichever picks it up.
>
> The team that has their conference off-week, which everyone has filled
> with their 12th game, would be the odd man out.  I haven't checked to
> see how many of those look to be good games.  I doubt very many since
> they were mostly relatively last-minute fills when the 12th game was
> permitted.
>
> If anyone has seen or heard details on kickoff times, I'd love to hear
> them.
>
> BTW, my wife and I ditched Insight Cable and switched to DirecTV for BTN
> and because we got $300 off a new HDTV at Best Buy (Circuit City and
> others have the same offer) when you sign up for DirecTV when you buy
> the TV.  DirecTV also has a deal going where you can get their top
> channel lineup free for four months if you buy NFL Sunday Ticket.  It
> ends up costing about the same as the mid-level channel lineup and you
> get football out the wazoo!  The only downside is that it's not the HD
> version of Sunday Ticket and you have to remember to downgrade your
> channel lineup at the end of the offer or you end up having to pay full
> price for it.
>
> -Michael
>
> Clark Zahn wrote:
> > Dennis W. Brandt wrote:
> >> I got a clarification from Directv today.  They actually called me on
> >> a Sunday in response to an e-mail question.  There will only be
> >> channel 220, no alternate channels, no multiple simultaneous
> >> broadcasts.  That means whatever one game the Big 10 Network decides
> >> to show is what you get, although there may be taped delays.
> >> Directv, unlike my local cable, will not permit one weekend of
> >> ESPN+.  It's all season or nothing.  It's not looking good for NU
> >> football on TV this season.
> >> _______________________________________________
> >>
> >
> > That sounds strange!  In the past Directv has never had the offering
> > on a particular channel vary from area to area.  Some games were
> > blacked out but they were still there.  Since all of the BIg10 home
> > games will be televised that means they would have to invent a new
> > technology that hasn't been used before to show all of the games live
> > yet use only one channel.  Either that or only one game would be shown
> > live and all the rest would be tape delayed.  I can't imagine that
> > happening.  We'll have to wait and see what happens.
> >
> > Clark Zahn
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > _______________________________________________
> > nwu-sports site list
> > nwu-sports@tssi.com
> > http://romaine.tssi.com/mailman/listinfo/nwu-sports
> >
>
> _______________________________________________
> nwu-sports site list
> nwu-sports@tssi.com
> http://romaine.tssi.com/mailman/listinfo/nwu-sports
>



-- 
Jonathan W. Hodges
1237 Emerson St Apt 2
Evanston, IL  60201-3577
(847) 736-2449
jonathanwhodges@gmail.com
From tbng at comcast.net  Mon Aug 27 06:18:57 2007
From: tbng at comcast.net (Dennis W. Brandt)
Date: Mon Aug 27 06:15:40 2007
Subject: [NU Sports] Big 10 Network
References: <368275.47853.qm@web60322.mail.yahoo.com><000201c7e833$166dcfe0$43496fa0$@com>
	<000601c7e83e$a4f53c20$c402a8c0@DennisMachine>
Message-ID: <001801c7e89c$0ff89500$c402a8c0@DennisMachine>

Here is a copied sentenced from the Big Ten Network's website:  "Cable and 
satellite providers that have agreed to carry the network will be offered 
the chance to carry the additional games via 'overflow' channels."   So 
let's hope that the woman who called me is clueless. 

From rstetson at capps-assoc.com  Mon Aug 27 07:24:28 2007
From: rstetson at capps-assoc.com (Roy Lamberton)
Date: Mon Aug 27 07:14:37 2007
Subject: [NU Sports] Big 10 Network
In-Reply-To: <001801c7e89c$0ff89500$c402a8c0@DennisMachine>
References: <368275.47853.qm@web60322.mail.yahoo.com><000201c7e833$166dcfe0$43496fa0$@com>	<000601c7e83e$a4f53c20$c402a8c0@DennisMachine>
	<001801c7e89c$0ff89500$c402a8c0@DennisMachine>
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I think the operant word in that statement is "offered"

Just because they are "offered" doesn't mean they will accept the chance to
carry additional games on overflow channels. Especially ones featuring two teams
that are nowhere near their coverage area.

Personally, I do not expect to be able to watch any of NU's games this year
unless they're carried nationally. In the past few years I've been able to watch
most games on the web. I do not expect that to be a viable option this year.

One of the largest groups of NU alums lives in the Washington DC area - you can
be sure they'll continue to be fed a constant diet of State Penn and will
continue to drift away from the Cats.

rsl

++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
Roy S. Lamberton - Senior Associate
Computer Applications & Support Associates
and Publisher of Purple Reign, 
The Scout.com Northwestern University Site
(http://www.purplewildcats.com)
AIM Handle: CoachRoy74
======== Go Cats -  Beat 'em All ===========
"You have a Republic Madam --
     If you can keep it" - Benjamin Franklin
============================================

> -----Original Message-----
> From: nwu-sports-bounces@tssi.com [mailto:nwu-sports-bounces@tssi.com] On
> Behalf Of Dennis W. Brandt
> Sent: Monday, August 27, 2007 7:19 AM
> To: nwu-sports@tssi.com
> Subject: Re: [NU Sports] Big 10 Network
> 
> Here is a copied sentenced from the Big Ten Network's website:  "Cable and
> satellite providers that have agreed to carry the network will be offered
> the chance to carry the additional games via 'overflow' channels."   So
> let's hope that the woman who called me is clueless.
> 
> _______________________________________________
> nwu-sports site list
> nwu-sports@tssi.com
> http://romaine.tssi.com/mailman/listinfo/nwu-sports

From tbng at comcast.net  Mon Aug 27 07:48:47 2007
From: tbng at comcast.net (Dennis W. Brandt)
Date: Mon Aug 27 07:45:26 2007
Subject: [NU Sports] Big 10 Network
References: <368275.47853.qm@web60322.mail.yahoo.com><000201c7e833$166dcfe0$43496fa0$@com>	<000601c7e83e$a4f53c20$c402a8c0@DennisMachine>
	<001801c7e89c$0ff89500$c402a8c0@DennisMachine>
	<000901c7e8a5$36cf4670$a46dd350$@com>
Message-ID: <000601c7e8a8$9c988720$c402a8c0@DennisMachine>

I should have noted that the woman said that there would be games available 
pay-per-view.  I am suspecting that means I'll get the Penn State game free 
and have to rent the Northwestern game.

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Roy Lamberton" <rstetson@capps-assoc.com>
To: "'Dennis W. Brandt'" <tbng@comcast.net>; <nwu-sports@tssi.com>
Sent: Monday, August 27, 2007 8:24 AM
Subject: RE: [NU Sports] Big 10 Network


>I think the operant word in that statement is "offered"
>
> Just because they are "offered" doesn't mean they will accept the chance 
> to
> carry additional games on overflow channels. Especially ones featuring two 
> teams
> that are nowhere near their coverage area.
>
> Personally, I do not expect to be able to watch any of NU's games this 
> year
> unless they're carried nationally. In the past few years I've been able to 
> watch
> most games on the web. I do not expect that to be a viable option this 
> year.
>
> One of the largest groups of NU alums lives in the Washington DC area - 
> you can
> be sure they'll continue to be fed a constant diet of State Penn and will
> continue to drift away from the Cats.
>
> rsl
>
> ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
> Roy S. Lamberton - Senior Associate
> Computer Applications & Support Associates
> and Publisher of Purple Reign,
> The Scout.com Northwestern University Site
> (http://www.purplewildcats.com)
> AIM Handle: CoachRoy74
> ======== Go Cats -  Beat 'em All ===========
> "You have a Republic Madam --
>     If you can keep it" - Benjamin Franklin
> ============================================
>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: nwu-sports-bounces@tssi.com [mailto:nwu-sports-bounces@tssi.com] On
>> Behalf Of Dennis W. Brandt
>> Sent: Monday, August 27, 2007 7:19 AM
>> To: nwu-sports@tssi.com
>> Subject: Re: [NU Sports] Big 10 Network
>>
>> Here is a copied sentenced from the Big Ten Network's website:  "Cable 
>> and
>> satellite providers that have agreed to carry the network will be offered
>> the chance to carry the additional games via 'overflow' channels."   So
>> let's hope that the woman who called me is clueless.
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> nwu-sports site list
>> nwu-sports@tssi.com
>> http://romaine.tssi.com/mailman/listinfo/nwu-sports
> 

From jeff.beamsley at hilgraeve.com  Mon Aug 27 08:44:16 2007
From: jeff.beamsley at hilgraeve.com (Jeff Beamsley)
Date: Mon Aug 27 08:44:37 2007
Subject: [NU Sports] Sagarins are in...
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That also assumes 4-0 against non conference teams.  Something we haven't
figured out how to do.  I think that running the noncon table will be a good
indication of how Fitz is doing with focus and discipline.  

All things considered, though, it appears that we'll have a good shot at a
bowl this year if we take care of business.

Jeff
 

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And they're predicting we will go 6-6, 2-6 in the conference.  They predicted
4-8, 1-7 for the Hoosiers, and 2-10, 0-8 for Illinois.  NU and  Indiana
caught breaks, NU missing Wisconsin and Penn State, and IU missing OSU  and
Michigan.  Illinois doesn't fare so well, missing Purdue and Michigan  State.

 
Also encouraging is the fact that 3 of our predicted mid-season defeats  look
like they could be close games (at MSU, we're 7 point underdogs, hosting  the
Gophers, we're 6 point underdogs, and hosting Iowa, we're predicted to be 8
point underdogs.  And, since we beat the Spartans 2 years ago at their
place, and beat Iowa last year at their place, we have some recent success
against those programs)
 
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From sjtruog at yahoo.com  Sun Aug 26 18:45:58 2007
From: sjtruog at yahoo.com (SjT (Stephen J. Truog))
Date: Mon Aug 27 09:28:45 2007
Subject: [NU Sports] SjT College Football preview ...
Message-ID: <282619.11321.qm@web52906.mail.re2.yahoo.com>

It's that most wonderful time of the year again ... I
can hear the bands marching, tailgates sizzling and
crisp autumn Saturdays of pigskin perfection are just
around the corner! The Week 1 picks lineup will be
coming up next, but first we get the annual Big Ten
preview and pre-season SjTop 25 rankings. Enjoy!

SjT BIG TEN PREVIEW 2007
####################

1) MICHIGAN
* Projected finish: 12-0 (8-0) / BCS Title Game vs.
USC
* Why they?ll win it: An offense that is arguably the
league?s best at every skill position, along with
sentiment that it may be Lloyd Carr?s swan song and
the sting of last year's final two games providing
motivation for a resurgence of Maize and Blue.
* Why they won?t: A rebuilt defense and O-line 
 plus
a September trio of games (Oregon, ND, PSU) where Carr
has stumbled in the past and a final triple play of
visits to MSU and Madison along with a visit from that
team to the South that has beaten Michigan 4 of the
last 5 games.
* Outlook: Michigan seems to be set up to be the Ohio
State of last year, with Hesiman candidates galore on
offense, the host spot in that annual rivalry game and
some sting from just missing the BCS title game last
year. Add to that a push by a focused coaching staff
(possibly a final push for Carr?) and it could be a
rematch with the Trojans in New Orleans.

2) PENN STATE
* Projected finish: 11-1 (7-1) / Rose Bowl vs.
California
* Why they?ll win it: One of the two Big Ten teams to
beat the SEC in last year?s bowl games, PSU is hoping
that Tampa was Anthony Morelli?s coming out party ?
with a lot of talent on offense and a favorable
schedule, it could be another ?roar restored? year for
JoePa in Happy Valley.
* Why they won?t: The off-field problems could be
distracting, though JoePa?s solution actually could be
one that brings the team closer together. There?s also
some key losses on defense to contend with and that
gigantic mental road block in Maize and Blue that has
tripped up PSU for a decade now.
* Outlook: If PSU can beat Michigan, look out! But
even if they don?t, that game?s in September and there
are plenty of marquee contests with Notre Dame, Ohio
State, Iowa and Wisconsin at home. That Badger game
could be for a second BCS berth from the league. Beat
the Badgers and an 11-1 team on an 8-game winning
streak could mean a return to Roses for Nittany fans.

3) WISCONSIN
* Projected finish: 10-2 (6-2) / Citrus Bowl vs.
Georgia
* Why they?ll win it: After last year?s surprising
campaign, the Badgers are a fashionable sleeper pick
for the title game, with loads of offensive talent
returning and a favorable schedule that could have
Bucky 10-0 with Michigan coming in to Camp Randall for
a huge November showdown.
* Why they won?t: A new quarterback will be rough, and
Coach Bielema won?t be surprising anyone this year.
Plus, the road isn?t exactly a cakewalk with visits to
OSU and PSU.
* Outlook: Bucky?s tough, and probably more of a
threat to win the league than PSU because they don?t
fear Michigan as much ? but I still see them third in
a close race at the top because the PSU game is in
Happy Valley. That?s their biggest obstacle to a
perfect season, not Michigan in Madison.

4) OHIO STATE
* Projected finish: 9-3 (5-3) / Outback Bowl vs.
Auburn
* Why they?ll finish higher: There are a lot of shoes
to fill with the talented departures on offense 
 but
at least the Bucks will have some time to break in the
new starters. No early game with Texas here, so OSU
can rely on defense until late October and the D
should be solid. Plus, last year?s puzzling title game
gaffes aside, Tressel?s still the top coach in the
league.
* Why they won?t: No Smith. No Ginn. No Pittman (that
one really hurts). No Gonzalez. Yes, the D is solid
like it was a few years ago, but OSU also relied
big-time on special teams to eke out those games with
the D, and Aaron Pettrey is no Mike Nugent. They could
slip up early while the newbies on offense make
mistakes.
* Outlook: The Buckeyes were probably the best team in
the nation last year and just were rusty and
ill-prepared for their final game ? they simply lost
too much talent to win the league this year. But
they?ll definitely have a say in who takes home the
trophy, as they play PSU, Wisconsin and Michigan in
their final four games. If they can build  confidence
and avoid big mistakes early, they could be 8-0
heading into Happy Valley and pull an upset or two to
spoil one of the Big Three?s chances.

5) IOWA
* Projected finish: 9-3 (5-3) / Champs Bowl vs. Miami
(FL)
* Why they?ll finish higher: No Michigan. No Ohio
State. The schedule is kind and the Hawkeyes have a
lot returning on D and also have a lot to prove after
a couple of disappointing seasons that have taken the
glow off of Kirk Ferentz? halo.
* Why they won?t: A new quarterback, O-line and big
questions on special teams hurt. So does road games in
Madison, Happy Valley and West Lafayette.
* Outlook: The Hawks? record will be inflated a big
this year thanks to the schedule and they could go
10-2 if they can upset Wisky, PSU or Purdue on the
road. They could slip up elsewhere early, but the
schedule is made for a strong finish and Iowa could
use that big close and solid record to lock up a
strong second-tier bowl berth.

6) PURDUE
* Projected finish: 9-3 (5-3) / Alamo Bowl vs. Texas
A&M
* Why they?ll finish higher: The Boilers will be a
dangerous team that will score plenty of points this
year. They also have something to prove after a couple
of disappointing years.
* Why they won?t: The defense has most starters back,
but is that a good thing? Plus a six-game stretch in
the middle of the season that includes visits from
Notre Dame, OSU and Iowa along with trips to Michigan
and PSU will be brutal.
* Outlook: I like the Boilers as a spoiler surprise
this year to win one game they shouldn?t, but also to
lose one game they should win in un Tiller like
fashion. They?ll score a lot and if the D can hold up
just a bit better than last year, this will be a
dangerous squad that?s fun to watch that will be in
every game.

7) NORTHWESTERN
* Projected finish: 7-5 (3-5) / Insight Bowl vs.
Kansas State
* Why they?ll finish higher: The Cats have their
quarterback in C.J. Bacher and should once again be
explosive on offense. Plus, a host of returning
starters should help toughen a defense that is
starting to get some speed in the secondary.
* Why they won?t: Some O-line and D-line questions
loom large, and depth questions, as usual, are a
concern (see Bacher?s injury last year that likely
cost them a bowl berth).
* Outlook: Last year was already a rebuilding one
before the tragedy of Coach Walker?s death and Coach
Fitz did an admirable job of holding the ship
together, with solid improvement at the end of the
season. If they stay healthy, the Cats should build on
that and return to the bowl scene. Winning all of the
four non-conference games is crucial to that, however,
along with defending home turf with Minnesota and
Indiana. That?s six wins 
 meaning road games at MSU,
Purdue and Illinois, along with a home date with Iowa
will likely hold the key to a bowl berth.

8) MINNESOTA
* Projected finish: 6-6 (2-6) / Motor City Bowl vs.
Miami (OH)
* Why they?ll win it: Glen Mason didn?t exactly leave
the cupboard bare for new coach Tim Brewster and the
schedule is set up nicely with four creampuffs for the
nonconference and some key Big Ten games at home.
* Why they won?t: A new coach and a new quarterback
usually spells trouble, not to mention the off-season
off-field troubles in the program this year. Plus the
defense has some holes.
* Outlook: Like Northwestern, Minnesota needs a 4-0
mark outside of the Big Ten to have a reasonable bowl
chance 
 then the key games become home dates with
Purdue, Illinois, OSU (early in the year ? a plus) and
road games at Indiana and Northwestern. Get three of
those and you?re in, two and you?re sweating it out,
hoping for two BCS bids for the league. Things may get
better for the Gophers with a strong recruiter like
Brewster in the future, but this year?s going to be a
tough transition and Mason may not look that bad by
November.

9) ILLINOIS
* Projected finish: 5-7 (1-7)
* Why they?ll finish higher: Ron Zook has assembled a
lot of talent in Champaign, raised the excitement
level and has a load of starters returning, including
playmaker Juice Williams.
* Why they won?t: Despite all the hype and fashionable
bowl pick status, the Illini may still be a year away.
They haven?t shown they know how to win the close
games yet, and with a schedule that includes OSU,
Michigan, PSU, Wisconsin, Iowa and early games vs.
Missouri and at Syracuse, they need to win those close
ones.
* Outlook: Memorial Stadium and any home field edge
the Illini can muster may hold the key to a bowl berth
this season. PSU, Wisconsin, Michigan and rival
Northwestern visit Champaign along with Ball State and
Western Illinois, and Illinois likely needs four of
those to guarantee a bowl berth. Otherwise, it may
come down to hoping the Big Ten gets two BCS teams and
beating NU on the final day of the season 
 and even
that might not cut it. But next year, this is a
breakout team.

10) INDIANA
* Projected finish: 5-7 (1-7)
* Why they?ll finish higher: There?s a lot of talent
returning in Bloomington and the Hoosiers have become
a mentally tough team in recent years and were poised
for a breakout in 2007.
* Why they won?t: The tragic death of Coach Hoeppner
meant that for the second straight year, an improving
Big Ten program with a former Miami of Ohio head coach
will be under tremendous emotional stress after losing
their leader and, even more, an all-around good guy
who was a father figure for many. Indiana is a bit
more prepared than Northwestern was because of Coach
Hoeppner?s illness last year and missing practices,
but that doesn?t make the loss any easier.
* Outlook: Indiana, like NU last year, will be playing
this year on pure emotion as a tribute to their
beloved coach. That means an upset or two is likely,
but also that the strain and burnout will come
quicker. Everyone will be cheering for IU to get those
six wins and a bowl, but like the Cats in 2006, I see
them coming up just short.

11) MICHIGAN STATE
* Projected finish: 4-8 (1-7)
* Why they?ll finish higher: Javon Ringer is a
talented running back and the defense returns a lot of
starters for new coach Mark Dantonio. Plus, a change
in attitude on the coaching staff has to help.
* Why they won?t: New coach. New quarterback. A tough
schedule that includes visits to South Bend, Madison,
Columbus, Iowa City and West Lafayette 
 in addition
to home dates with Michigan and Penn State.
* Outlook: Sparty may pull an upset or two, but if
they stumble early to UAB or Pitt 
 or get down after
games at ND and Wisky and slip up against
Northwestern, it could be a long season full of
Spartan fans? usual chorus of boos and ugly scores
during a brutal home stretch. A new coach may
ultimately wake this sleeping giant of a program, but
they have to dig out of a pretty big hole first.

And now for the poll ...

SjTop 25 ? PRESEASON
##################
1	SOUTHERN CAL ? Trojans loaded and ready to get back
to top
2	MICHIGAN ? Offense is loaded, but schedule is full
of traps
3	LSU ? Toughies at home, but new QB and SEC make 12-0
tough
4	WEST VIRGINIA ? Again, Big Least sked tailor made
for 12-0
5	TEXAS ? Horns talented 
 could be MNC darkhorse if
beat OU
6	FLORIDA ? Defending champs lost a lot, but still
loaded
7	WISCONSIN ? Win at PSU and could be 10-0 for
Michigan visit
8	VIRGINIA TECH ? Upset at LSU would restore some ACC
cred
9	GEORGIA ? Lightest schedule of SEC contenders =
darkhorse?
10	CALIFORNIA ? Vols and SC visit Berkeley ? put up or
shut up
11	PENN STATE ? Biggies at home, but still have
Michigan block
12	AUBURN ? Dangerous, but have murderous SEC road
games
13	UCLA ? Still not a believer, but SC win last year a
start
14	OKLAHOMA ? Sooners still only real threat to Horns
in Big XII
15	LOUISVILLE ? New coach, but same QB and weak
conference
16	FLORIDA STATE ? As always, talent?s there 
 but in
a slump
17	OHIO STATE ? Young, but have time to learn before
big games
18	ARKANSAS ? In turmoil, but still have best back in
nation
19	NEBRASKA ? Order restored? We?ll find out when SC
visits
20	HAWAII ? Will be favored in every game, and win
most big
21	TENNESSEE ? Another Cal drubbing would improve Vols
status
22	ARIZONA STATE ? Have schedule, cocky coach for big
year
23	IOWA ? No Michigan? No OSU? Thank you,
schedulemaker!
24	TCU ? Probably best non-BCS team, but visit Texas 

ugh!
25	RUTGERS ? Will win 9 or 10, but can they beat WV or
UL?

TEN MORE TO WATCH
XX	BOISE STATE ? Cinderella?s back, but must visit
Hawaii
XX	SOUTH CAROLINA ? Spurrier makes them dangerous
XX	BOSTON COLLEGE ? Could be surprise in so-so ACC
race
XX	OREGON ? Ducks still tough at home and Pac 10
darkhorse
XX	CLEMSON ? Are Tigers ready to step up to ACC elite?
XX	TEXAS A&M ? Coach Fran needs a big year to survive
XX	PURDUE ? Will score plenty, but will the D hold up?
XX	TEXAS TECH ? See Purdue
XX    OKLAHOMA STATE - See Purdue
XX	ALABAMA ? Saban will have Tide back soon

Picks coming up! Good to have football back!
GO CATS!!!
-SjT

* * * * * * * * *
STEPHEN J. TRUOG
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From s.fridley at comcast.net  Mon Aug 27 14:33:19 2007
From: s.fridley at comcast.net (s.fridley@comcast.net)
Date: Mon Aug 27 14:29:57 2007
Subject: [NU Sports] Big 10 Network
Message-ID: <082720071933.4774.46D326FF0003E6B6000012A62202888744970A040B079D00D29C@comcast.net>

The Big Ten Network today reiterated that DirecTV will indeed carry all of the overflow games.  That's in the website FAQ, updated today.

There would really be no earthly reason for DirecTV not to do so - first, the additional games are being provided to them absolutely free; second, DirecTV has the additional channel space available and uses these regularly for additional sports coverage; and finally, it's a great opportunity to keep all of their existing Big Ten customers happy at a time when much of the competition won't have the games at all.  Seems like a no-brainer to me.


 -------------- Original message ----------------------
From: "Dennis W. Brandt" <tbng@comcast.net>
> Here is a copied sentenced from the Big Ten Network's website:  "Cable and 
> satellite providers that have agreed to carry the network will be offered 
> the chance to carry the additional games via 'overflow' channels."   So 
> let's hope that the woman who called me is clueless. 
> 
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From johnl at mac.com  Mon Aug 27 16:09:49 2007
From: johnl at mac.com (John Labbe)
Date: Mon Aug 27 16:05:54 2007
Subject: [NU Sports] Big 10 Network
In-Reply-To: <082720071933.4774.46D326FF0003E6B6000012A62202888744970A040B079D00D29C@comcast.net>
References: <082720071933.4774.46D326FF0003E6B6000012A62202888744970A040B079D00D29C@comcast.net>
Message-ID: <F3A86E9B-0114-1000-A5AA-66893C6CF57B-Webmail-10022@mac.com>

Did anyone attend the reception for season ticket holders on Saturday afternoon (before "Meet-the-Team Night") with the president of the Big Ten Network and Jim Delaney?  I was planning to attend, but ironically, I was stuck at home while I had DirectTV installed.  The DirectTV seems great so far, but I'm just hoping the big dish now on top of my house doesn't blow away.

In any event, if anyone attended the Big Ten Network presentation, did you learn anything new?  I think we've learned that most of the coverage on the BTN will be in high definition, but will anyone actually be carrying the HD broadcasts?  I think I heard on this List that DirectTV won't be carrying any of the broadcasts in HD.  If DirectTV isn't carrying the broadcasts in HD, then who the heck is?

John




On Monday, August 27, 2007, at 02:38PM, <s.fridley@comcast.net> wrote:
>The Big Ten Network today reiterated that DirecTV will indeed carry all of the overflow games.  That's in the website FAQ, updated today.
>
>There would really be no earthly reason for DirecTV not to do so - first, the additional games are being provided to them absolutely free; second, DirecTV has the additional channel space available and uses these regularly for additional sports coverage; and finally, it's a great opportunity to keep all of their existing Big Ten customers happy at a time when much of the competition won't have the games at all.  Seems like a no-brainer to me.
>
>
> -------------- Original message ----------------------
>From: "Dennis W. Brandt" <tbng@comcast.net>
>> Here is a copied sentenced from the Big Ten Network's website:  "Cable and 
>> satellite providers that have agreed to carry the network will be offered 
>> the chance to carry the additional games via 'overflow' channels."   So 
>> let's hope that the woman who called me is clueless. 
>> 
>> _______________________________________________
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From mlinhardt at netzero.net  Mon Aug 27 16:32:18 2007
From: mlinhardt at netzero.net (mlinhardt@netzero.net)
Date: Mon Aug 27 16:31:38 2007
Subject: [NU Sports] Big 10 Network
Message-ID: <20070827.163218.18850.0@webmail06.dca.untd.com>

We attended the "Meet The Team", but not the Big Ten Network reception.  

We generally ignore the cable/dish discussion as we watch so little TV that an antenna is perfectly fine for us.  Also with season tickets and going to at least one away game we only have to find a bar for the one or two games that don't make it on an OTA network.

The president of the Big Ten Network Silverstein(UCLA undergrad and Michgan grad) and Delaney both spoke at Meet-The-Team.  Basically it was negative towards Comcast.  They talked about all the games being broadcast, including every one of the basketball games.  My spouse and I were not sure that was a good thing ;-) at least in regards to bball.

Meet-The-Team was fun.  It is surprising they don't have better attendence with free goose island beer -- we love the 312.  Fitz had a good rah rah speech and all the position seniors were well-spoken.  Mims was particularly amusing revealing or making up nicknames for all the D-line -- Corey "woo-woo" Wooten.

We are still amazed that Tonjua Jones is a captain after displaying the surprising lack of ability to make a catch -- see Sun Bowl.  We love our players, but some will never be ready to play major college football.

-- John Labbe <johnl@mac.com> wrote:
Did anyone attend the reception for season ticket holders on Saturday afternoon (before "Meet-the-Team Night") with the president of the Big Ten Network and Jim Delaney?  I was planning to attend, but ironically, I was stuck at home while I had DirectTV installed.  The DirectTV seems great so far, but I'm just hoping the big dish now on top of my house doesn't blow away.

In any event, if anyone attended the Big Ten Network presentation, did you learn anything new?  I think we've learned that most of the coverage on the BTN will be in high definition, but will anyone actually be carrying the HD broadcasts?  I think I heard on this List that DirectTV won't be carrying any of the broadcasts in HD.  If DirectTV isn't carrying the broadcasts in HD, then who the heck is?

John




On Monday, August 27, 2007, at 02:38PM, <s.fridley@comcast.net> wrote:
>The Big Ten Network today reiterated that DirecTV will indeed carry all of the overflow games.  That's in the website FAQ, updated today.
>
>There would really be no earthly reason for DirecTV not to do so - first, the additional games are being provided to them absolutely free; second, DirecTV has the additional channel space available and uses these regularly for additional sports coverage; and finally, it's a great opportunity to keep all of their existing Big Ten customers happy at a time when much of the competition won't have the games at all.  Seems like a no-brainer to me.
>
>
> -------------- Original message ----------------------
>From: "Dennis W. Brandt" <tbng@comcast.net>
>> Here is a copied sentenced from the Big Ten Network's website:  "Cable and 
>> satellite providers that have agreed to carry the network will be offered 
>> the chance to carry the additional games via 'overflow' channels."   So 
>> let's hope that the woman who called me is clueless. 
>> 
>> _______________________________________________
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From jonathanwhodges at gmail.com  Mon Aug 27 16:48:07 2007
From: jonathanwhodges at gmail.com (Jonathan Hodges)
Date: Mon Aug 27 16:44:26 2007
Subject: [NU Sports] Big 10 Network
In-Reply-To: <20070827.163218.18850.0@webmail06.dca.untd.com>
References: <20070827.163218.18850.0@webmail06.dca.untd.com>
Message-ID: <fcb3ee270708271448x6e31a3ffk49ff8584454f037c@mail.gmail.com>

It's interesting to note that TJ Jones is listed as a starter for this
week's game along with Ward, Peterman, and Lane as the other wide receivers
(Thompson is listed as a backup despite his previous experience).

It's good to hear that the BTN has cleared up this issue, although fans
won't get the true feeling of how it will be until the games actually start
up this week (and many of them can't watch).

Jonathan

On 8/27/07, mlinhardt@netzero.net <mlinhardt@netzero.net> wrote:
>
> We attended the "Meet The Team", but not the Big Ten Network reception.
>
> We generally ignore the cable/dish discussion as we watch so little TV
> that an antenna is perfectly fine for us.  Also with season tickets and
> going to at least one away game we only have to find a bar for the one or
> two games that don't make it on an OTA network.
>
> The president of the Big Ten Network Silverstein(UCLA undergrad and
> Michgan grad) and Delaney both spoke at Meet-The-Team.  Basically it was
> negative towards Comcast.  They talked about all the games being broadcast,
> including every one of the basketball games.  My spouse and I were not sure
> that was a good thing ;-) at least in regards to bball.
>
> Meet-The-Team was fun.  It is surprising they don't have better attendence
> with free goose island beer -- we love the 312.  Fitz had a good rah rah
> speech and all the position seniors were well-spoken.  Mims was particularly
> amusing revealing or making up nicknames for all the D-line -- Corey
> "woo-woo" Wooten.
>
> We are still amazed that Tonjua Jones is a captain after displaying the
> surprising lack of ability to make a catch -- see Sun Bowl.  We love our
> players, but some will never be ready to play major college football.
>
> -- John Labbe <johnl@mac.com> wrote:
> Did anyone attend the reception for season ticket holders on Saturday
> afternoon (before "Meet-the-Team Night") with the president of the Big Ten
> Network and Jim Delaney?  I was planning to attend, but ironically, I was
> stuck at home while I had DirectTV installed.  The DirectTV seems great so
> far, but I'm just hoping the big dish now on top of my house doesn't blow
> away.
>
> In any event, if anyone attended the Big Ten Network presentation, did you
> learn anything new?  I think we've learned that most of the coverage on the
> BTN will be in high definition, but will anyone actually be carrying the HD
> broadcasts?  I think I heard on this List that DirectTV won't be carrying
> any of the broadcasts in HD.  If DirectTV isn't carrying the broadcasts in
> HD, then who the heck is?
>
> John
>
>
>
>
> On Monday, August 27, 2007, at 02:38PM, <s.fridley@comcast.net> wrote:
> >The Big Ten Network today reiterated that DirecTV will indeed carry all
> of the overflow games.  That's in the website FAQ, updated today.
> >
> >There would really be no earthly reason for DirecTV not to do so - first,
> the additional games are being provided to them absolutely free; second,
> DirecTV has the additional channel space available and uses these regularly
> for additional sports coverage; and finally, it's a great opportunity to
> keep all of their existing Big Ten customers happy at a time when much of
> the competition won't have the games at all.  Seems like a no-brainer to me.
> >
> >
> > -------------- Original message ----------------------
> >From: "Dennis W. Brandt" <tbng@comcast.net>
> >> Here is a copied sentenced from the Big Ten Network's website:  "Cable
> and
> >> satellite providers that have agreed to carry the network will be
> offered
> >> the chance to carry the additional games via 'overflow' channels."   So
> >> let's hope that the woman who called me is clueless.
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From jleonard518 at yahoo.com  Mon Aug 27 17:17:12 2007
From: jleonard518 at yahoo.com (Jim Leonard)
Date: Mon Aug 27 17:13:12 2007
Subject: [NU Sports] Big 10 Network
Message-ID: <112396.55349.qm@web36802.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

I have an email from a guy who works at the Big Ten Network (friend of a friend) stating that the games are on overflow channels. DirecTV employees are generally clueless. I honestly find that I have to call and ask the same question 5 times and go with the response that comes up 3 our of 5 as being 'most likely accurate'.

I just switched to DirecTV on Friday, specifically for the BTN (and overflow channels). I am going to assume that the DirecTV folks on the phone are saying 'only one channel' because they haven't yet been given the numbers for the overflow channels.

Go Cats!
Jim


----- Original Message ----
From: "s.fridley@comcast.net" <s.fridley@comcast.net>
To: nwu-sports@tssi.com
Sent: Monday, August 27, 2007 2:33:19 PM
Subject: Re: [NU Sports] Big 10 Network


The Big Ten Network today reiterated that DirecTV will indeed carry all of the overflow games.  That's in the website FAQ, updated today.

There would really be no earthly reason for DirecTV not to do so - first, the additional games are being provided to them absolutely free; second, DirecTV has the additional channel space available and uses these regularly for additional sports coverage; and finally, it's a great opportunity to keep all of their existing Big Ten customers happy at a time when much of the competition won't have the games at all.  Seems like a no-brainer to me.


-------------- Original message ----------------------
From: "Dennis W. Brandt" <tbng@comcast.net>
> Here is a copied sentenced from the Big Ten Network's website:  "Cable and 
> satellite providers that have agreed to carry the network will be offered 
> the chance to carry the additional games via 'overflow' channels."   So 
> let's hope that the woman who called me is clueless. 
> 
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From tbng at comcast.net  Mon Aug 27 17:39:23 2007
From: tbng at comcast.net (Dennis W. Brandt)
Date: Mon Aug 27 17:36:00 2007
Subject: [NU Sports] Big 10 Network
References: <112396.55349.qm@web36802.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <000901c7e8fb$1dc7fef0$c402a8c0@DennisMachine>

>I have an email from a guy who works at the Big Ten Network (friend of a 
>friend) stating that the games are on overflow channels. DirecTV employees 
>are generally clueless.

Did he mention which channels they would be?  I still find nothing on the 
website. 

From Alan.Abrahamson at nbcsports.com  Mon Aug 27 22:33:52 2007
From: Alan.Abrahamson at nbcsports.com (Abrahamson, Alan (NBC Universal))
Date: Mon Aug 27 22:31:54 2007
Subject: [NU Sports] 2007 Wildcats fb poster
Message-ID: <33C4F11DF8639640A51C79CB484166FF031D1F5C@RKFMLVEM02.e2k.ad.ge.com>

Check it out at one of the best college fb sites on the internet:
http://thewizardofodds.blogspot.com/2007/08/power-to-purple.html
From ddave at nusports.com  Tue Aug 28 12:19:11 2007
From: ddave at nusports.com (dave bradley)
Date: Tue Aug 28 12:16:48 2007
Subject: [NU Sports] 2007 Wildcats fb poster
Message-ID: <20070828101911.9127EBF0@resin09.mta.everyone.net>

this poster and another similar one are  available at the NUsport.com page: 

http://nusports.cstv.com/ot/nw-wallpaper-06.html

(They took photos for these last spring at the end of the school year..my daughter Lauren ('07) is in the photo - to the right, her face is obscured by the guy holding the drum stick...)

Go Cats!


dave bradley
(717) 687-5355
ddave@NUsports.com



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To: <nwu-sports@tssi.com>
Subject: [NU Sports] 2007 Wildcats fb poster
Date: Mon, 27 Aug 2007 23:33:52 -0400

Check it out at one of the best college fb sites on the internet:
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From jleonard518 at yahoo.com  Tue Aug 28 17:19:44 2007
From: jleonard518 at yahoo.com (Jim Leonard)
Date: Tue Aug 28 17:15:40 2007
Subject: [NU Sports] BTN on DirecTV
Message-ID: <652917.33042.qm@web36813.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

Fellow Wildcat Faithful,

I emailed my contact at the Big Ten Network today. He is still certain that all overflow games will be shown on DirecTV. Please see his response below. I expect that the channels will all be visible on the DirecTV menu on Friday morning. 

Victory & Honor,
Jim



=======================================================
----- Original Message -----
From: Leonard, Jim 
Sent: Tue Aug 28 07:38:14 2007
Subject: DirecTV overflow channels

Mike,

I'm sure the energy has to be running high up there as you get ready to launch. I hope it is all going well.

My fellow Northwestern fans and I are wondering what the DirecTV overflow channels are? I see on the BTN website that 220 is the primary channel. Do you know when they will announce the others?

Best Regards,
Jim

=======================================================
From: [mailto:mike@btn.com] 
Sent: Tuesday, August 28, 2007 10:01 AM
To: Jim Leonard
Subject: Re: DirecTV overflow channels
 
They will be in the neighborhood of 220. Check the program guide as we get closer to saturday.

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From michael.vance at att.net  Tue Aug 28 18:59:05 2007
From: michael.vance at att.net (Michael Vance)
Date: Tue Aug 28 18:55:36 2007
Subject: [NU Sports] BTN on DirecTV
In-Reply-To: <652917.33042.qm@web36813.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
References: <652917.33042.qm@web36813.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <46D4B6C9.5000909@att.net>

I also switched to DirecTV (with HD-DVR) over the weekend and, aside 
from a bit of a nightmare with installation, have been pleased so far.  
I had also confirmed channel 220 with a call to Tech Support, but hadn't 
asked about overflow games.  DirecTV is a bit tight on HD bandwidth at 
the moment, but they have a plan that is supposedly almost complete.  I 
heard, once again from Tech Support (not just Customer Service), that 
the last satellite went up last week and that expanded HD capacity is 
supposed to come on-line in mid-to-late October.  I won't hold my 
breath, but I would certainly hope that the BTN would be one of the 
first beneficiaries.  DirecTV and owner Fox have a lot to gain by 
providing the best possible experience to BTN viewers, but also a lot to 
lose.

-Michael

Jim Leonard wrote:
> Fellow Wildcat Faithful,
>
> I emailed my contact at the Big Ten Network today. He is still certain that all overflow games will be shown on DirecTV. Please see his response below. I expect that the channels will all be visible on the DirecTV menu on Friday morning. 
>
> Victory & Honor,
> Jim
>
>
>
> =======================================================
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Leonard, Jim 
> Sent: Tue Aug 28 07:38:14 2007
> Subject: DirecTV overflow channels
>
> Mike,
>
> I'm sure the energy has to be running high up there as you get ready to launch. I hope it is all going well.
>
> My fellow Northwestern fans and I are wondering what the DirecTV overflow channels are? I see on the BTN website that 220 is the primary channel. Do you know when they will announce the others?
>
> Best Regards,
> Jim
>
> =======================================================
> From: [mailto:mike@btn.com] 
> Sent: Tuesday, August 28, 2007 10:01 AM
> To: Jim Leonard
> Subject: Re: DirecTV overflow channels
>  
> They will be in the neighborhood of 220. Check the program guide as we get closer to saturday.
>
> Mike
>
>
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From johnl at mac.com  Tue Aug 28 19:11:16 2007
From: johnl at mac.com (John Labbe)
Date: Tue Aug 28 19:07:16 2007
Subject: [NU Sports] BTN on DirecTV
In-Reply-To: <46D4B6C9.5000909@att.net>
References: <652917.33042.qm@web36813.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
	<46D4B6C9.5000909@att.net>
Message-ID: <44F36C9B-0114-1000-C5C8-7D09678C4AF7-Webmail-10015@mac.com>

This just in:

Apparently, our game this week will be on DirectTV Channel 219.

If you get DirectTV, check out your guide for the following channels that are currently showing upcoming broadcasts for this Saturday (it's not necessary to flip forward to the Saturday listings, because there's no other programming slated for these channels):
218-Youngstown State at Ohio State
219-Northeastern at Northwestern**
221-Florida Int'l at Penn State

All of these three are slated for 11:00 am CDT.  Additional programming is listed for 218 later in the day.

No listings are appearing yet for 220, as far as I can tell.

This seems to confirm everyone's understanding of the past few days, with the exception of the one person Dennis spoke with at DirectTV.

John

 
On Tuesday, August 28, 2007, at 07:01PM, "Michael Vance" <michael.vance@att.net> wrote:
>I also switched to DirecTV (with HD-DVR) over the weekend and, aside 
>from a bit of a nightmare with installation, have been pleased so far.  
>I had also confirmed channel 220 with a call to Tech Support, but hadn't 
>asked about overflow games.  DirecTV is a bit tight on HD bandwidth at 
>the moment, but they have a plan that is supposedly almost complete.  I 
>heard, once again from Tech Support (not just Customer Service), that 
>the last satellite went up last week and that expanded HD capacity is 
>supposed to come on-line in mid-to-late October.  I won't hold my 
>breath, but I would certainly hope that the BTN would be one of the 
>first beneficiaries.  DirecTV and owner Fox have a lot to gain by 
>providing the best possible experience to BTN viewers, but also a lot to 
>lose.
>
>-Michael
>
>Jim Leonard wrote:
>> Fellow Wildcat Faithful,
>>
>> I emailed my contact at the Big Ten Network today. He is still certain that all overflow games will be shown on DirecTV. Please see his response below. I expect that the channels will all be visible on the DirecTV menu on Friday morning. 
>>
>> Victory & Honor,
>> Jim
>>
>>
>>
>> =======================================================
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: Leonard, Jim 
>> Sent: Tue Aug 28 07:38:14 2007
>> Subject: DirecTV overflow channels
>>
>> Mike,
>>
>> I'm sure the energy has to be running high up there as you get ready to launch. I hope it is all going well.
>>
>> My fellow Northwestern fans and I are wondering what the DirecTV overflow channels are? I see on the BTN website that 220 is the primary channel. Do you know when they will announce the others?
>>
>> Best Regards,
>> Jim
>>
>> =======================================================
>> From: [mailto:mike@btn.com] 
>> Sent: Tuesday, August 28, 2007 10:01 AM
>> To: Jim Leonard
>> Subject: Re: DirecTV overflow channels
>>  
>> They will be in the neighborhood of 220. Check the program guide as we get closer to saturday.
>>
>> Mike
>>
>>
>>        
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From johnl at mac.com  Tue Aug 28 19:24:03 2007
From: johnl at mac.com (John Labbe)
Date: Tue Aug 28 19:20:03 2007
Subject: [NU Sports] BTN on DirecTV
In-Reply-To: <44F36C9B-0114-1000-C5C7-7D09678C4AF7-Webmail-10015@mac.com>
References: <44F36C9B-0114-1000-C5C7-7D09678C4AF7-Webmail-10015@mac.com>
Message-ID: <44F36C9B-0114-1000-C613-7D09678C4AF7-Webmail-10015@mac.com>

Further confirmation of my last observation is also now on the Big Ten Network's website with complete schedule information:

DIRECTV ANNOUNCES OVERFLOW CHANNELS FOR THIS SATURDAY
DIRECTV subscribers to the Choice programming package and above will receive all six football games televised by Big Ten Network this coming Saturday.  Channel assignments are as follows:

12:00 p.m. EDT
Appalachian State at Michigan (Ch. 220 - Primary Game)
Youngstown State at Ohio State (Ch. 218 - Overflow Game)
Northeastern at Northwestern (Ch. 219 - Overflow Game)
Florida International at Penn State (Ch. 221 - Overflow Game)

8:00 p.m. EDT
Bowling Green at Minnesota (Ch. 220 - Primary Game)
Indiana State at Indiana (Ch. 218 - Overflow Game)



On Tuesday, August 28, 2007, at 07:11PM, "John Labbe" <johnl@mac.com> wrote:
>This just in:
>
>Apparently, our game this week will be on DirectTV Channel 219.
>
>If you get DirectTV, check out your guide for the following channels that are currently showing upcoming broadcasts for this Saturday (it's not necessary to flip forward to the Saturday listings, because there's no other programming slated for these channels):
>218-Youngstown State at Ohio State
>219-Northeastern at Northwestern**
>221-Florida Int'l at Penn State
>
>All of these three are slated for 11:00 am CDT.  Additional programming is listed for 218 later in the day.
>
>No listings are appearing yet for 220, as far as I can tell.
>
>This seems to confirm everyone's understanding of the past few days, with the exception of the one person Dennis spoke with at DirectTV.
>
>John
>
> 
>On Tuesday, August 28, 2007, at 07:01PM, "Michael Vance" <michael.vance@att.net> wrote:
>>I also switched to DirecTV (with HD-DVR) over the weekend and, aside 
>>from a bit of a nightmare with installation, have been pleased so far.  
>>I had also confirmed channel 220 with a call to Tech Support, but hadn't 
>>asked about overflow games.  DirecTV is a bit tight on HD bandwidth at 
>>the moment, but they have a plan that is supposedly almost complete.  I 
>>heard, once again from Tech Support (not just Customer Service), that 
>>the last satellite went up last week and that expanded HD capacity is 
>>supposed to come on-line in mid-to-late October.  I won't hold my 
>>breath, but I would certainly hope that the BTN would be one of the 
>>first beneficiaries.  DirecTV and owner Fox have a lot to gain by 
>>providing the best possible experience to BTN viewers, but also a lot to 
>>lose.
>>
>>-Michael
>>
>>Jim Leonard wrote:
>>> Fellow Wildcat Faithful,
>>>
>>> I emailed my contact at the Big Ten Network today. He is still certain that all overflow games will be shown on DirecTV. Please see his response below. I expect that the channels will all be visible on the DirecTV menu on Friday morning. 
>>>
>>> Victory & Honor,
>>> Jim
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> =======================================================
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: Leonard, Jim 
>>> Sent: Tue Aug 28 07:38:14 2007
>>> Subject: DirecTV overflow channels
>>>
>>> Mike,
>>>
>>> I'm sure the energy has to be running high up there as you get ready to launch. I hope it is all going well.
>>>
>>> My fellow Northwestern fans and I are wondering what the DirecTV overflow channels are? I see on the BTN website that 220 is the primary channel. Do you know when they will announce the others?
>>>
>>> Best Regards,
>>> Jim
>>>
>>> =======================================================
>>> From: [mailto:mike@btn.com] 
>>> Sent: Tuesday, August 28, 2007 10:01 AM
>>> To: Jim Leonard
>>> Subject: Re: DirecTV overflow channels
>>>  
>>> They will be in the neighborhood of 220. Check the program guide as we get closer to saturday.
>>>
>>> Mike
>>>
>>>
>>>        
>>> ____________________________________________________________________________________
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From sjtruog at yahoo.com  Tue Aug 28 19:56:24 2007
From: sjtruog at yahoo.com (SjT (Stephen J. Truog))
Date: Tue Aug 28 19:52:20 2007
Subject: [NU Sports] BTN on DirecTV
In-Reply-To: <44F36C9B-0114-1000-C5C8-7D09678C4AF7-Webmail-10015@mac.com>
Message-ID: <995217.80634.qm@web52908.mail.re2.yahoo.com>

Woohoo!!!

This is really gonna make Saturday's better than ever!
I'm only gonna be able to get to a few NU games this
year with stupid airline prices and the new job ...
but now I can flick from conference game to conference
game on Saturdays and not miss the Cats! Now, if I
dare to dream, I can hope the BTN showcases our
amazing marching band and the rest of the great bands
in the conference during halftime. Well, it's fun to
dream.:)

GO CATS!!!
-SjT

* * * * * * * * *
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From clzahn at mindspring.com  Tue Aug 28 22:27:21 2007
From: clzahn at mindspring.com (Clark Zahn)
Date: Tue Aug 28 22:23:20 2007
Subject: [NU Sports] BTN on DirecTV
In-Reply-To: <44F36C9B-0114-1000-C613-7D09678C4AF7-Webmail-10015@mac.com>
References: <44F36C9B-0114-1000-C5C7-7D09678C4AF7-Webmail-10015@mac.com>
	<44F36C9B-0114-1000-C613-7D09678C4AF7-Webmail-10015@mac.com>
Message-ID: <46D4E799.4040401@mindspring.com>

John Labbe wrote:
> Further confirmation of my last observation is also now on the Big Ten Network's website with complete schedule information:
>
> DIRECTV ANNOUNCES OVERFLOW CHANNELS FOR THIS SATURDAY
> DIRECTV subscribers to the Choice programming package and above will receive all six football games televised by Big Ten Network this coming Saturday.  Channel assignments are as follows:
>
> 12:00 p.m. EDT
> Appalachian State at Michigan (Ch. 220 - Primary Game)
> Youngstown State at Ohio State (Ch. 218 - Overflow Game)
> Northeastern at Northwestern (Ch. 219 - Overflow Game)
> Florida International at Penn State (Ch. 221 - Overflow Game)
>
> 8:00 p.m. EDT
> Bowling Green at Minnesota (Ch. 220 - Primary Game)
> Indiana State at Indiana (Ch. 218 - Overflow Game)
>
>
>
>   
I just set my Directv Tivo to record our game.  I had to go to the 
record by channel and date screen, but it identified it as our game once 
I chose the time!
Clark Zahn

From tbng at comcast.net  Wed Aug 29 06:49:08 2007
From: tbng at comcast.net (Dennis W. Brandt)
Date: Wed Aug 29 06:45:42 2007
Subject: [NU Sports] BTN on DirecTV
References: <652917.33042.qm@web36813.mail.mud.yahoo.com><46D4B6C9.5000909@att.net>
	<44F36C9B-0114-1000-C5C8-7D09678C4AF7-Webmail-10015@mac.com>
Message-ID: <002101c7ea32$9c011710$c402a8c0@DennisMachine>

> This seems to confirm everyone's understanding of the past few days, with 
> the exception of the one person Dennis spoke with at DirectTV.
>

The lady from Directv told me that there would be games for which we could 
pay to see.  She did not say Big Ten Network games, just "games."  Unfolding 
events this Saturday should be interesting.  Nothing like not educating in 
your people whose job it is to communicate with the public. 

From jason at jasonsinger.com  Wed Aug 29 10:05:08 2007
From: jason at jasonsinger.com (Jason Singer)
Date: Wed Aug 29 10:01:17 2007
Subject: [NU Sports] Brett can't get a break!
Message-ID: <200708291505.l7TF5GTV011650@host14.webserver1010.com>

http://www.panthers.com/Common/Article.aspx?id=23514

 

Jason Singer

www.jasonsinger.com <http://www.jasonsinger.com/> 

 

From johnadeg at comcast.net  Wed Aug 29 10:13:15 2007
From: johnadeg at comcast.net (johnadeg@comcast.net)
Date: Wed Aug 29 10:09:45 2007
Subject: [NU Sports] BTN on DirecTV
Message-ID: <082920071513.9300.46D58D0B00037811000024542215593414090A0B0E02080106@comcast.net>

Too many times when you call Direct TV, or Dish for that matter, you get someone in a call answering center in the Philippines who is clue less.

John DeGroat
 -------------- Original message ----------------------
From: "Dennis W. Brandt" <tbng@comcast.net>
> > This seems to confirm everyone's understanding of the past few days, with 
> > the exception of the one person Dennis spoke with at DirectTV.
> >
> 
> The lady from Directv told me that there would be games for which we could 
> pay to see.  She did not say Big Ten Network games, just "games."  Unfolding 
> events this Saturday should be interesting.  Nothing like not educating in 
> your people whose job it is to communicate with the public. 
> 
> _______________________________________________
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From jmccull at insight.rr.com  Wed Aug 29 18:02:26 2007
From: jmccull at insight.rr.com (J.R. McCullough)
Date: Wed Aug 29 17:58:32 2007
Subject: [NU Sports] Insight cable offering BTN -- good news and bad news
Message-ID: <002701c7ea90$ab3a66b0$6701a8c0@JROFFICEHP>

I live in Columbus, and my cable operator just announced an agreement with the BTN. It will be available on the basic cable tier in Columbus and Evansville, IN. That's the good news. 

The bad news is that they are only showing the local feed. That means I will have to watch the Cats on tape delay. Does anyone know when the tape delay games will be shown? I can't find a think on the BTN web site.

J.R.
From s.fridley at comcast.net  Wed Aug 29 18:18:19 2007
From: s.fridley at comcast.net (s.fridley@comcast.net)
Date: Wed Aug 29 18:14:46 2007
Subject: [NU Sports] Insight cable offering BTN -- good news and bad news
Message-ID: <082920072318.13771.46D5FEBB0008671F000035CB2200762302970A040B079D00D29C@comcast.net>

I just checked for you in the tv listings and the NU game isn't being replayed on the main channel until 2 a.m. Central on Monday morning.  

I hope for your sake you can put some pressure on your cable company to carry the extra channels - remind them that BTN isn't charging them anything extra for the additional games.

 -------------- Original message ----------------------
From: "J.R. McCullough" <jmccull@insight.rr.com>
> I live in Columbus, and my cable operator just announced an agreement with the 
> BTN. It will be available on the basic cable tier in Columbus and Evansville, 
> IN. That's the good news. 
> 
> The bad news is that they are only showing the local feed. That means I will 
> have to watch the Cats on tape delay. Does anyone know when the tape delay games 
> will be shown? I can't find a think on the BTN web site.
> 
> J.R.
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From jonathanwhodges at gmail.com  Wed Aug 29 20:23:41 2007
From: jonathanwhodges at gmail.com (Jonathan Hodges)
Date: Wed Aug 29 20:19:47 2007
Subject: [NU Sports] Insight cable offering BTN -- good news and bad news
In-Reply-To: <082920072318.13771.46D5FEBB0008671F000035CB2200762302970A040B079D00D29C@comcast.net>
References: <082920072318.13771.46D5FEBB0008671F000035CB2200762302970A040B079D00D29C@comcast.net>
Message-ID: <fcb3ee270708291823q3b6a22b3w82dd8c7f22e18223@mail.gmail.com>

While it is good that Insight has decided to carry the BTN (for you, at
least), the issue with having it on extended (analog) cable is that there is
no possibility for overflow channels (due to the availability of
channels/bandwidth on analog cable).  If you had digital cable and the BTN
was offered on that, then there is indeed the possibility of overflow
channels as there are many more channels available.  This would have been an
advantage to putting the BTN on a digital standard or premium tier - any
subscriber to that service could get all available games.

Of course Insight is still a relatively small player in the midwest cable
game - Comcast and TimeWarner along with DISH network look to be duking it
out for the foreseeable future (Comcast has confirmed that it definitely
will NOT have the BTN to start the season).  Hopefully once fans realize the
can't get this weekend's games they will begin to revolt and force some
negotiations.

Jonathan

On 8/29/07, s.fridley@comcast.net <s.fridley@comcast.net> wrote:
>
> I just checked for you in the tv listings and the NU game isn't being
> replayed on the main channel until 2 a.m. Central on Monday morning.
>
> I hope for your sake you can put some pressure on your cable company to
> carry the extra channels - remind them that BTN isn't charging them anything
> extra for the additional games.
>
> -------------- Original message ----------------------
> From: "J.R. McCullough" <jmccull@insight.rr.com>
> > I live in Columbus, and my cable operator just announced an agreement
> with the
> > BTN. It will be available on the basic cable tier in Columbus and
> Evansville,
> > IN. That's the good news.
> >
> > The bad news is that they are only showing the local feed. That means I
> will
> > have to watch the Cats on tape delay. Does anyone know when the tape
> delay games
> > will be shown? I can't find a think on the BTN web site.
> >
> > J.R.
> > _______________________________________________
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From prplehaze at insightbb.com  Wed Aug 29 21:01:41 2007
From: prplehaze at insightbb.com (Mark Ament)
Date: Wed Aug 29 20:58:17 2007
Subject: [NU Sports] Insight cable offering BTN -- good news and bad news
In-Reply-To: <fcb3ee270708291823q3b6a22b3w82dd8c7f22e18223@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <000601c7eaa9$b5baf690$7100a8c0@PC244461808863>

The good news for me is that Insight has put the BTN on the digital tier in
Kentucky on the rationale that there are no Big Ten teams in Kentucky.  Of
course, Louisville is an Indiana University market but that's another story.
For me, as a digital customer, it means I don't have to move to Direct TV
until the two new birds are active and the full list of HD channels are
active.  What I don't know yet is how many channels we'll get or how many
games we'll get.  I'll just have to wait and see.  No official announcement
has been made in Louisville yet - the information has been released so far
on local blogs.
Mark

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-----Original Message-----
From: nwu-sports-bounces@tssi.com [mailto:nwu-sports-bounces@tssi.com] On
Behalf Of Jonathan Hodges
Sent: Wednesday, August 29, 2007 9:24 PM
To: s.fridley@comcast.net
Cc: NU Sports List
Subject: Re: [NU Sports] Insight cable offering BTN -- good news and bad
news

While it is good that Insight has decided to carry the BTN (for you, at
least), the issue with having it on extended (analog) cable is that there is
no possibility for overflow channels (due to the availability of
channels/bandwidth on analog cable).  If you had digital cable and the BTN
was offered on that, then there is indeed the possibility of overflow
channels as there are many more channels available.  This would have been an
advantage to putting the BTN on a digital standard or premium tier - any
subscriber to that service could get all available games.

Of course Insight is still a relatively small player in the midwest cable
game - Comcast and TimeWarner along with DISH network look to be duking it
out for the foreseeable future (Comcast has confirmed that it definitely
will NOT have the BTN to start the season).  Hopefully once fans realize the
can't get this weekend's games they will begin to revolt and force some
negotiations.

Jonathan

On 8/29/07, s.fridley@comcast.net <s.fridley@comcast.net> wrote:
>
> I just checked for you in the tv listings and the NU game isn't being
> replayed on the main channel until 2 a.m. Central on Monday morning.
>
> I hope for your sake you can put some pressure on your cable company to
> carry the extra channels - remind them that BTN isn't charging them
anything
> extra for the additional games.
>
> -------------- Original message ----------------------
> From: "J.R. McCullough" <jmccull@insight.rr.com>
> > I live in Columbus, and my cable operator just announced an agreement
> with the
> > BTN. It will be available on the basic cable tier in Columbus and
> Evansville,
> > IN. That's the good news.
> >
> > The bad news is that they are only showing the local feed. That means I
> will
> > have to watch the Cats on tape delay. Does anyone know when the tape
> delay games
> > will be shown? I can't find a think on the BTN web site.
> >
> > J.R.
> > _______________________________________________
> > nwu-sports site list
> > nwu-sports@tssi.com
> > http://romaine.tssi.com/mailman/listinfo/nwu-sports
>
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From tbng at comcast.net  Wed Aug 29 21:06:14 2007
From: tbng at comcast.net (Dennis W. Brandt)
Date: Wed Aug 29 21:02:47 2007
Subject: [NU Sports] Note to Directv newbies
References: <082920072318.13771.46D5FEBB0008671F000035CB2200762302970A040B079D00D29C@comcast.net>
	<fcb3ee270708291823q3b6a22b3w82dd8c7f22e18223@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <000501c7eaaa$5888f8e0$c402a8c0@DennisMachine>

Don't forget to add at least a 1/2 hour (an hour is better) to your 
recording time in case the game goes long and/or into overtime.  I always 
add 1 1/2 hours to a baseball game.  Throw in a rain delay or a 16 inning 
affair, and that's not enough.  Nothing like missing the big finish.

BTW, interesting that Directv has channels 218, 219, and 221 up but not yet 
the main 220 channel.  My game is set to record.  GO CATS! 

From HUDHAIFA3 at aol.com  Thu Aug 30 09:48:02 2007
From: HUDHAIFA3 at aol.com (HUDHAIFA3@aol.com)
Date: Thu Aug 30 09:45:40 2007
Subject: [NU Sports] BT Network Channel 220 is on.
Message-ID: <c6a.155d9d5a.340832a2@aol.com>

If you go to channel 220 now it says Launch of BT Network 8 eastern. And  
channel 219 shows Northwestern as upcoming games
 
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From michael.vance at att.net  Thu Aug 30 22:30:53 2007
From: michael.vance at att.net (Michael Vance)
Date: Thu Aug 30 22:27:14 2007
Subject: [NU Sports] BT Network Channel 220 is on.
In-Reply-To: <c6a.155d9d5a.340832a2@aol.com>
References: <c6a.155d9d5a.340832a2@aol.com>
Message-ID: <46D78B6D.2060707@att.net>

Well, the launch of BTN had its plusses and minuses, but it was mostly 
unimpressive.

The leadup, at least on DirecTV was sort of cool.  They had a countdown 
timer going and were repeating the extended versions of every school's 
fight song.  Unfortunately, we had to run to an event at the kids' 
school so I didn't get to hear Go U.  That was mainly because every 
couple of fight songs, they would show a 3-5 minute clip about how they 
built BTN HQ on the west side of downtown Chicago, near the old 
Montgomery Ward headquarters building.

The Football Preview show was OK, but not spectacular.  The recorded 
segments with Tom Brenaman were the same ones that Fox Sports had been 
using for their Big Ten Preview show.  They also interspersed that with 
previously recorded studio footage of Dave Revsine from the same show.  
But they edited that rather well with the new studio footage of Revsine 
(in the same suit, shirt, and tie) with Gerry DiNardo (who needs to 
learn to sit up straight if he's ever going to be successful on 
television) and former Illini RB Howard Griffith.

The good: The original studio work was solid, but nothing 
earth-shattering. Couldn't tell whether it was live or not.  Probably 
taped, but if it was, it was taped especially for the segment because 
they had a couple of mentions of the time and the next segment.

The bad: Griffith slipped up and used the first person plural pronoun 
"we" when talking about the Illini instead of the more journalistically 
proper "they."  And at the beginning of each segment, they had a graphic 
with a spinning helmet.  The Gopher helmet magically turned into a 
Wisconsin helmet for a fraction of a second before turning maroon and 
gold again.  Ooops!

The ugly: Not sure if this was BTN or DirecTV, but there was a major 
flub with tape going back and forth fast forward and rewind during one 
of the segments (I forget who), then it went to black, then to 
commercial.  When they returned, it was to taped studio footage of 
Revsine from the Fox show, so they didn't even acknowledge it or 
apologize for it.  That may also be an indicator that it was a DirecTV 
problem, but I don't think so.

One of the regular features is going to be "The Big Ten's Greatest 
Games."  They were kicking off with last year's Michigan-OSU contest.  
They're re-running that multiple times over the next few days.  On 
Monday or Tuesday, they introduce the 1999 Minnesota-PSU game which, I 
believe, was the first of a couple of upsets of the Nits by the Goophs 
over the span of a few years.  For the next two weeks, those are the 
only games we get, but stay tuned for a wide variety of Cardiac Cat 
Classics, I'm sure.  Unfortunately, I'm guessing that last year's MSU 
game will be shown at some point, too.

I look forward to live game coverage.

-Michael

HUDHAIFA3@aol.com wrote:
> If you go to channel 220 now it says Launch of BT Network 8 eastern. And  
> channel 219 shows Northwestern as upcoming games
>  
> Joe Amore
>
>
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From thehaze at earthlink.net  Fri Aug 31 00:28:03 2007
From: thehaze at earthlink.net (Jim Bendat)
Date: Fri Aug 31 00:23:44 2007
Subject: [NU Sports] BT Network Channel 220 is on.
In-Reply-To: <46D78B6D.2060707@att.net>
References: <c6a.155d9d5a.340832a2@aol.com> <46D78B6D.2060707@att.net>
Message-ID: <46D7A6E3.5060200@earthlink.net>

Then, there was Gerry DiNardo going over NU's schedule.  While our 
schedule was on the screen, he told the audience that we would have two 
winnable games at Minnesota and at Indiana.  Those two games, in 
reality, are home games.  I also noticed that, on the scrolling upcoming 
schedule, the BTN abbreviated our upcoming game vs. Northeastern as "NU 
vs. NW".  -- Jim

From sjtruog at yahoo.com  Fri Aug 31 00:56:27 2007
From: sjtruog at yahoo.com (SjT (Stephen J. Truog))
Date: Fri Aug 31 00:52:07 2007
Subject: [NU Sports] BT Network Channel 220 is on.
In-Reply-To: <46D7A6E3.5060200@earthlink.net>
Message-ID: <438870.25069.qm@web52901.mail.re2.yahoo.com>

We'll see how the games go this weekend ... all I know
is that it was great to come home from work and find
Big Ten football on the TV!:)

I peeked ahead on TiVo and it looks like NU's first
hour of campus programming is Thursday at 3pm Wildcat
time - it appears NU and Michigan are the first two
schools to go at this, so it will be interesting to
see what they put on from Evanston.

Also, sadly it looks like NU and Indiana are the only
two without coach's shows. Now that we have an outlet,
we gotta get something going there. Let WNUR's Sports
Voice guys host or have it as a Medill project but to
not have Fitz on the airwaves weekly is a shame. I
could see before when we couldn't get a Chicago
outlet, but now we need one. A good recruiting and PR
tool!

GO CATS!!!
-SjT

* * * * * * * * *
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From jleonard518 at yahoo.com  Fri Aug 31 07:45:22 2007
From: jleonard518 at yahoo.com (Jim Leonard)
Date: Fri Aug 31 07:41:05 2007
Subject: [NU Sports] Welcome BTN
Message-ID: <112442.85320.qm@web36809.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

Fellow Wildcat Faithful,

Maybe I missed something last night as I was watching the innuagural 'Big Ten Tonight' show. Apparently there were all sorts of mishaps with graphics, editing, and poor commentary. But not in my living room. 

What I saw was perhaps the best addition to modern TV since DirecTV & digital cable technology. We have an entire network dedicated to our conference!!!! They can make a lot more mistakes with graphics before I'll get tired of watching Big Ten football highlights. 

Bring on the show about Big Ten marching bands!

With the exception of recapping NU v. MSU last year, I enjoyed every minute of it. I fully expect the SEC Network will be out next year and other conferences will soon follow. What an awesome idea. 

Victory & Honor,
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From tbng at comcast.net  Fri Aug 31 08:08:55 2007
From: tbng at comcast.net (Dennis W. Brandt)
Date: Fri Aug 31 08:05:27 2007
Subject: [NU Sports] NU vs. NE
References: <112442.85320.qm@web36809.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <002401c7ebd0$16490e80$c402a8c0@DennisMachine>

You know what we need to do tomorrow?  Put a good ol' fashioned whoopin' on 
Northeastern the way Big 10 teams are supposed to do to second class 
programs.  Black flag all the way!  (Keeps the bugs down, too.)  I want to 
see 52 - 7 with the scrubs playing the second half.

?Viva los gatos! 

From MHRJGScott at aol.com  Fri Aug 31 08:20:29 2007
From: MHRJGScott at aol.com (MHRJGScott@aol.com)
Date: Fri Aug 31 08:20:13 2007
Subject: [NU Sports] NU vs. NE
Message-ID: <c6a.1576cf08.34096f9d@aol.com>

I don't know about the 52 but I  would be very happy to see only  7 points 
scored, our defense is the key this year, IMHO, and they need to get  good 
quickly.



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From tbng at comcast.net  Fri Aug 31 08:44:01 2007
From: tbng at comcast.net (Dennis W. Brandt)
Date: Fri Aug 31 08:40:35 2007
Subject: [NU Sports] Cat pre-season report card
References: <112442.85320.qm@web36809.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
	<002401c7ebd0$16490e80$c402a8c0@DennisMachine>
Message-ID: <000301c7ebd4$fd85b1a0$c402a8c0@DennisMachine>

I always do this at the end of the season, but I thought I would try to 
offer realistic expectations of what I expect them to do this season.  It 
will be interesting to compare pre-season predictions with actual scores 
(mine, that is)between the Illinois and bowl games.  May I be on the low 
side in every case.

OL - C+  There are returning starters here that should improve play.  (Will 
Rees play or not?)  They will not be in the Michigan or Wisconsin class but 
should be adequate barring injury.  Better play here will obviously affect 
the QB and RB ratings.  Depth, as usual, is an issue.

QB - C+  Bacher has the potential to be a B if he cuts down on the mistakes 
and gets help from the OL.

RB - A-  Sutton will get his 1,500 yards barring injury to him or Bacher. 
The question is his backups and who will carry the ball on 3rd and 1, an 
area that has haunted the Cats.

WR - C  There is depth here but no one spectacular.  The loss of Brewer has 
hurt.  Someone has to step up and be the guy who defenses must cover.

DL - C  Lots of returners from on a line that was dreadful last season in 
the first half but improved in the second.  They MUST generate a pass rush, 
something that is not traditional on NU's DLs.  How the DL plays. as usual, 
will be the key to the Cats' overall success.

LB - C  Kadela should be steady, and perhaps Jeske will live up to his 
billing, but there are ifs here.

DB - B-  Could be even better if the DL plays well.

ST - I  Who the heck knows how we'll kick?  Who knows about ther coverage 
and return teams?

Depth - D  What else is new?

Coaching - B-  Will improve over last season's tragic start.  Fitz will 
become one of the nation's best - eventually.

Intangibles - C  Playing three home games before mostly empty seats will not 
help enthusiasm.  We will need three out-of-conference victories and an 
upset over Ohio State to really get the motor revving.

From MHRJGScott at aol.com  Fri Aug 31 08:51:50 2007
From: MHRJGScott at aol.com (MHRJGScott@aol.com)
Date: Fri Aug 31 08:52:06 2007
Subject: [NU Sports] Cat pre-season report card
Message-ID: <ce1.1964e258.340976f6@aol.com>

I wonder how the extra 5 yards with the new kickoff rule will affect our  
games?  I have read that a lot of teams have worked especially hard on  kickoff 
returns and coverage.



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From mlinhardt at netzero.net  Fri Aug 31 10:06:46 2007
From: mlinhardt at netzero.net (mlinhardt@netzero.net)
Date: Fri Aug 31 10:04:33 2007
Subject: [NU Sports] Cat pre-season report card
Message-ID: <20070831.100646.16869.0@webmail16.dca.untd.com>

Are these grades relative to us in the past or to every other team in the country?

I can't compare us to the rest of the nation, because not only do I not see everybody else play, but because there is still a talent gap.

By most definitions A+ NFL pro-bowler, A multi-year NFL starter, A- NFL backup, B+ NFL draftee, B superior college player, B- good college player, etc.  By those ratings Castillo might be our only A in recent memory, but he needs more time in the league.  Napo(A-), Gardner(B+), Bates(B+), Fitz(B), etc.

Relative to us:
QB - B- Bacher is evolving and has played 1/2 of a season.  The sweetspot(A- grade) for NU qbs starts after a full season under center -- Zak and Bas are notable examples.

OL - B- IMO they have been a fairly anonymous crew, which can be good -- no holding penalties.  Sacks are low, but our short yardage rushing could use some work.  A lot of this was a RW thing -- I cringed when I saw the power-I on third and short.

RB - B Sutton has to stop fumbling, otherwise he looks to be on track for a good year similar to Jason or Noah, but not '95 DA or '00 DA2.

WR - B We have a pair of WRs in Lane and Peterman that could approach the Bates-Musso combo.  With KT as the Teddy Johhson look-a-like we potentially will have a breakout season assuming Bacher evolves and the O-line protects.

DL - A- We might have the second best D-line that I recall with '95 being the tip-top.

LB - D None of the returnees are anywhere near our average '95 on crews.  No Napo, Bentley, Gardner, Roach, etc.  Kadela just does not impress me.

DB - C without Brendan B with him.  We have no proven lockdown corner, but Brendan makes things happen.

ST - Incomplete We have no Sam V, Brian G, or Paul B on our team.  Sharrick needs to concentrate on evolving as a corner.  Who knows?

Coaching - B- recruiting looks good, but given the MSU meltdown gameday might need some work.

Relative to the rest of the nation our coaching always gets a bump of at least one grade given our academic requirements.  On a pure talent level there is no way we can compete with any strong football school, yet we manage to hold our own since '95.


-- "Dennis W. Brandt" <tbng@comcast.net> wrote:
I always do this at the end of the season, but I thought I would try to 
offer realistic expectations of what I expect them to do this season.  It 
will be interesting to compare pre-season predictions with actual scores 
(mine, that is)between the Illinois and bowl games.  May I be on the low 
side in every case.

OL - C+  There are returning starters here that should improve play.  (Will 
Rees play or not?)  They will not be in the Michigan or Wisconsin class but 
should be adequate barring injury.  Better play here will obviously affect 
the QB and RB ratings.  Depth, as usual, is an issue.

QB - C+  Bacher has the potential to be a B if he cuts down on the mistakes 
and gets help from the OL.

RB - A-  Sutton will get his 1,500 yards barring injury to him or Bacher. 
The question is his backups and who will carry the ball on 3rd and 1, an 
area that has haunted the Cats.

WR - C  There is depth here but no one spectacular.  The loss of Brewer has 
hurt.  Someone has to step up and be the guy who defenses must cover.

DL - C  Lots of returners from on a line that was dreadful last season in 
the first half but improved in the second.  They MUST generate a pass rush, 
something that is not traditional on NU's DLs.  How the DL plays. as usual, 
will be the key to the Cats' overall success.

LB - C  Kadela should be steady, and perhaps Jeske will live up to his 
billing, but there are ifs here.

DB - B-  Could be even better if the DL plays well.

ST - I  Who the heck knows how we'll kick?  Who knows about ther coverage 
and return teams?

Depth - D  What else is new?

Coaching - B-  Will improve over last season's tragic start.  Fitz will 
become one of the nation's best - eventually.

Intangibles - C  Playing three home games before mostly empty seats will not 
help enthusiasm.  We will need three out-of-conference victories and an 
upset over Ohio State to really get the motor revving.

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From tbng at comcast.net  Fri Aug 31 10:51:23 2007
From: tbng at comcast.net (Dennis W. Brandt)
Date: Fri Aug 31 10:47:43 2007
Subject: [NU Sports] Cat pre-season report card
References: <20070831.100646.16869.0@webmail16.dca.untd.com>
Message-ID: <000501c7ebe6$c8388060$c402a8c0@DennisMachine>

> Are these grades relative to us in the past or to every other team in the 
> country?
>
Neither.  Just what I'm predicting I'll give them at the end of the season. 
The DL is going to have to improve a lot over last year to merit a B.  I 
hope you're right about the wideouts, but I've got to see it to believe it. 
I hope you're wrong about the DBs.  I hope to give them all a grade of A at 
season's end, but I doubt I will. 

From s.fridley at comcast.net  Fri Aug 31 13:21:52 2007
From: s.fridley at comcast.net (s.fridley@comcast.net)
Date: Fri Aug 31 13:18:16 2007
Subject: [NU Sports] Cat pre-season report card
Message-ID: <083120071821.4662.46D85C4000052C72000012362207001641970A040B079D00D29C@comcast.net>

To answer a question you asked in an earlier post, Rees is suspended for the Northeastern game only.  He will play all of the remaining games, including the bowl game.

 -------------- Original message ----------------------
From: "Dennis W. Brandt" <tbng@comcast.net>
> > Are these grades relative to us in the past or to every other team in the 
> > country?
> >
> Neither.  Just what I'm predicting I'll give them at the end of the season. 
> The DL is going to have to improve a lot over last year to merit a B.  I 
> hope you're right about the wideouts, but I've got to see it to believe it. 
> I hope you're wrong about the DBs.  I hope to give them all a grade of A at 
> season's end, but I doubt I will. 
> 
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From jleonard518 at yahoo.com  Fri Aug 31 15:02:53 2007
From: jleonard518 at yahoo.com (Jim Leonard)
Date: Fri Aug 31 14:58:43 2007
Subject: [NU Sports] 2007 Predictions
Message-ID: <728910.78249.qm@web36807.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

Fellow Wildcat Faithful,

Below is my prediction for the season. I see us at 8-4. 

Enjoy,
Jim



2007 Schedule
=======================
09/01/07 vs. Northeastern     - Evanston, Ill.       (WIN)
09/08/07 vs. Nevada             - Evanston, Ill.       (WIN)
09/15/07 vs. Duke                - Evanston, Ill.       (WIN)
09/22/07 at Ohio State         - Columbus, OH     (LOSS)
09/29/07 vs. Michigan          - Evanston, Ill.        (LOSS) 
10/06/07 at Michigan State  - E. Lansing, MI      (WIN)
10/13/07 vs. Minnesota        - Evanston, Ill.        (WIN)
10/19/07 vs. EMU                - Detroit, MI           (WIN)
10/27/07 at Purdue              - W. Lafayette, IN   (LOSS)
11/03/07 vs. Iowa                - Evanston, Ill.        (LOSS)
11/10/07 vs. Indiana            - Evanston, Ill.         (WIN)
11/17/07 at Illinois             - Champaign, Ill.       (WIN)


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From tkmaycock at yahoo.com  Fri Aug 31 15:22:36 2007
From: tkmaycock at yahoo.com (Tom Maycock)
Date: Fri Aug 31 15:18:24 2007
Subject: [NU Sports] 2007 Predictions
In-Reply-To: <728910.78249.qm@web36807.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
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> =======================
> 09/01/07 vs. Northeastern     - Evanston, Ill.       (WIN)
> 09/08/07 vs. Nevada             - Evanston, Ill.       (WIN)
> 09/15/07 vs. Duke                - Evanston, Ill.       (WIN)
> 09/22/07 at Ohio State         - Columbus, OH     (LOSS)
> 09/29/07 vs. Michigan          - Evanston, Ill.        (LOSS) 
> 10/06/07 at Michigan State  - E. Lansing, MI      (WIN)
> 10/13/07 vs. Minnesota        - Evanston, Ill.        (WIN)
> 10/19/07 vs. EMU                - Detroit, MI           (WIN)
> 10/27/07 at Purdue              - W. Lafayette, IN   (LOSS)
> 11/03/07 vs. Iowa                - Evanston, Ill.        (LOSS)
> 11/10/07 vs. Indiana            - Evanston, Ill.         (WIN)
> 11/17/07 at Illinois             - Champaign, Ill.       (WIN)

This matches my prediction fairly closely, although in true NU fashion,
I predict the Cats will lose to someone they shouldn't, but also beat
someone they shouldn't. I could see a loss to Nevada but a win over
Iowa, for example. 

This is all assuming we stay relatively healthy. I expect big things
from Sutton, Bacher, McManis, Ross Lane, Eric Peterman, in particular,
and I think the D as a whole has a chance to be really solid this year.

Tom

From jeff.beamsley at hilgraeve.com  Fri Aug 31 15:52:34 2007
From: jeff.beamsley at hilgraeve.com (Jeff Beamsley)
Date: Fri Aug 31 15:52:03 2007
Subject: [NU Sports] 2007 Predictions
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I like the sound of 8-4, but I have absolutely no idea.

I agree with others that the D will be better because of the natural
tendencies of our head coach, but we are also losing the LB strength and
leadership that we had last year, so it's hard to predict how we are going to
do particularly against the run.  I can only hope that we get at least to
point where we are average.

On offense we're in the same boat.  We thought we were going to have a
dominant O line last year and it took them most of the season to figure out
how to play together.  We have to be able to reliably run the ball for three
or four yards on first down in order for our offense to work.  Until I see
that happening this year, I won't feel comfortable predicting any success
against BT teams.

Finally, I have no idea where we are going to be on special teams.  Our
return game was about the only part of special teams last year that showed
significant improvement.  The new rules should help that, but we also have to
be able to defend against the return, and our short kickoff strategy of last
year isn't going to work as well this year.

I really hope that those who have been paying more attention to the preseason
have a good handle on where this team is.  We only need six wins to go
bowling and they are certainly out there.  

As Roy says, at this point let's go win 'em all.

Jeff
 


-----Original Message-----
From: nwu-sports-bounces@tssi.com [mailto:nwu-sports-bounces@tssi.com] On
Behalf Of Jim Leonard
Sent: Friday, August 31, 2007 4:03 PM
To: nwu-sports@tssi.com
Subject: [NU Sports] 2007 Predictions

Fellow Wildcat Faithful,

Below is my prediction for the season. I see us at 8-4. 

Enjoy,
Jim



2007 Schedule
=======================
09/01/07 vs. Northeastern     - Evanston, Ill.       (WIN)
09/08/07 vs. Nevada             - Evanston, Ill.       (WIN)
09/15/07 vs. Duke                - Evanston, Ill.       (WIN)
09/22/07 at Ohio State         - Columbus, OH     (LOSS)
09/29/07 vs. Michigan          - Evanston, Ill.        (LOSS) 
10/06/07 at Michigan State  - E. Lansing, MI      (WIN)
10/13/07 vs. Minnesota        - Evanston, Ill.        (WIN)
10/19/07 vs. EMU                - Detroit, MI           (WIN)
10/27/07 at Purdue              - W. Lafayette, IN   (LOSS)
11/03/07 vs. Iowa                - Evanston, Ill.        (LOSS)
11/10/07 vs. Indiana            - Evanston, Ill.         (WIN)
11/17/07 at Illinois             - Champaign, Ill.       (WIN)


 
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From jonathanwhodges at gmail.com  Fri Aug 31 19:00:00 2007
From: jonathanwhodges at gmail.com (Jonathan Hodges)
Date: Fri Aug 31 18:56:03 2007
Subject: [NU Sports] 2007 Predictions
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Here's my preview:

http://hailtopurple.com/features/jhodges7g21.html

To summarize:

Opponent, NU's position in the game, (prediction)

vs. Northeastern, gimme, (W)
vs. Nevada, slight advantage, (W)
vs. Duke, should-win, (W)
at Ohio State, underdog, (L)
vs. Michigan, large underdog, (L)
at Michigan State, toss-up, (W)
vs. Minnesota, slight advantage, (W)
at Eastern Michigan, should-win, (W)
at Purdue, disadvantage, (L)
vs. Iowa, disadvantage, (L)
vs. Indiana, advantage, (W)
at Illinois, slight disadvantage, (L)

Predicted: 7-5 (3-5 Big Ten), Insight or Champs Sports Bowl

Basically, as the season unfolds we should have a much better idea of how NU
stands: since it is still to be seen if the offense clicks, the defense
lives up to expectations, and special teams do anything.

Can't wait until tomorrow, Go 'Cats!!!

Jonathan

On 8/31/07, Jeff Beamsley <jeff.beamsley@hilgraeve.com> wrote:
>
>
> I like the sound of 8-4, but I have absolutely no idea.
>
> I agree with others that the D will be better because of the natural
> tendencies of our head coach, but we are also losing the LB strength and
> leadership that we had last year, so it's hard to predict how we are going
> to
> do particularly against the run.  I can only hope that we get at least to
> point where we are average.
>
> On offense we're in the same boat.  We thought we were going to have a
> dominant O line last year and it took them most of the season to figure
> out
> how to play together.  We have to be able to reliably run the ball for
> three
> or four yards on first down in order for our offense to work.  Until I see
> that happening this year, I won't feel comfortable predicting any success
> against BT teams.
>
> Finally, I have no idea where we are going to be on special teams.  Our
> return game was about the only part of special teams last year that showed
> significant improvement.  The new rules should help that, but we also have
> to
> be able to defend against the return, and our short kickoff strategy of
> last
> year isn't going to work as well this year.
>
> I really hope that those who have been paying more attention to the
> preseason
> have a good handle on where this team is.  We only need six wins to go
> bowling and they are certainly out there.
>
> As Roy says, at this point let's go win 'em all.
>
> Jeff
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: nwu-sports-bounces@tssi.com [mailto:nwu-sports-bounces@tssi.com] On
> Behalf Of Jim Leonard
> Sent: Friday, August 31, 2007 4:03 PM
> To: nwu-sports@tssi.com
> Subject: [NU Sports] 2007 Predictions
>
> Fellow Wildcat Faithful,
>
> Below is my prediction for the season. I see us at 8-4.
>
> Enjoy,
> Jim
>
>
>
> 2007 Schedule
> =======================
> 09/01/07 vs. Northeastern     - Evanston, Ill.       (WIN)
> 09/08/07 vs. Nevada             - Evanston, Ill.       (WIN)
> 09/15/07 vs. Duke                - Evanston, Ill.       (WIN)
> 09/22/07 at Ohio State         - Columbus, OH     (LOSS)
> 09/29/07 vs. Michigan          - Evanston, Ill.        (LOSS)
> 10/06/07 at Michigan State  - E. Lansing, MI      (WIN)
> 10/13/07 vs. Minnesota        - Evanston, Ill.        (WIN)
> 10/19/07 vs. EMU                - Detroit, MI           (WIN)
> 10/27/07 at Purdue              - W. Lafayette, IN   (LOSS)
> 11/03/07 vs. Iowa                - Evanston, Ill.        (LOSS)
> 11/10/07 vs. Indiana            - Evanston, Ill.         (WIN)
> 11/17/07 at Illinois             - Champaign, Ill.       (WIN)
>
>
>
>
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