[NU Sports] Season (was: Hoeppner)

cherron604 at aol.com cherron604 at aol.com
Wed Sep 13 22:12:13 CDT 2006


A little knowledge is a dangerous thing...
 
Northwestern has NOT historically 'sucked' in football.  Up until Bob Strotz et al threw in the towel, Northwestern had a very competitive program, as a private school in the Big Ten.  In fact a case can be made that Northwestern showed far more courage and integrity by commiting to be a member of the Big Ten than Notre Dame, which thrived as an independent, where they could craft more comfortable schedules, and were not subject to the same academic and athletic scrutiny as members of the Western Conference.
 
Most would call ND's 'superior attitude' excessive pride which, if I'm not mistaken, is one of the seven deadly sins... 
 
To deny a media bias in favor of ND is laughable.  The Chicago Sun-Times alone is practically an organ of the SID's office in South Bend.  And their owned-and-operated network (NBC) is firmly in their corner.
 
To argue that their larger fan base justifies more coverage is to argue that since more people read People Magazine than have read Shakespeare, then People ought to be studied more at the university level.
 
Notre Dame has always, and will always represent the worst in interscholastic athletics (imho).
 
Chuck Herron   Tech 85
 
-----Original Message-----
From: johnl at mac.com
To: s.fridley at comcast.net
Cc: nwu-sports at tssi.com
Sent: Wed, 13 Sep 2006 1:49 PM
Subject: Re: [NU Sports] Season (was: Hoeppner)


I think what you really hate is not Notre Dame but the fact that Northwestern 
has historically sucked in football.  It's unfortunate if your hatred for 
another school is so strong that you can't be proud of your own school despite 
the relative success of another.

If someone has a "superior attitude" it usually doesn't help if you have an 
inferior attitude.  That's why I say to expect victory and support our own team, 
win or lose.  What does it matter what happens to Notre Dame (unless we're 
playing them, of course)?

The notion of a media bias toward Notre Dame is silly.  For every person in the 
media who has a bias in favor of Notre Dame, you can find at least as many as 
have a bias against Notre Dame.  Just watch the coverage on any Saturday.  The 
reason that Notre Dame gets more coverage (good and bad) than we do is 
obvious---they're more successful and have a larger fan base.

John Labbe




On Wednesday, September 13, 2006, at 11:48AM, <s.fridley at comcast.net> wrote:

>> Oh, please, growing up in Chicago, going to NU twice, and having to endure  
>> the holier than anybody, superior attitude of the domers, the media fawning 
all 
>>  over them, and the joke that their jocks actually have to maintain academic  

>> standards give me the perfect right to hate ND.
>
>I couldn't agree more.  Oh, I have no problem acknowledging that ND has 
sustained football success to a degree we can only dream of.  And it looks like 
they're genuinely back after a bad (for them) decade or so.  And they've done so 
while paying at least passing attention to academic standards - particularly 
compared to any of the other elite tier all-time programs.  All of that I 
stipulate.
>
>But having grown up in the Chicago area with the insufferability of the domers 
I've known over four decades, I also have the perfect right to hate ND.
>
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