[NU Sports] Season (was: Hoeppner)
Jeff Beamsley
jeffb at hilgraeve.com
Wed Sep 13 12:29:26 CDT 2006
I don't have any friends who went to ND, but my uncle (now passed) was a big
fan.
I do know some kids that I have coached in the past who are at ND and are
very happy. One had an opportunity to go to Duke and chose ND instead.
>From all that I have heard, the undergrad experience at ND is very similar
to the one at Duke and that sort of kid (with perhaps a little Catholic
background thrown in) is who they are looking for.
They have become quite a selective school too. I know a couple of kids who
had very good grades, good activities including varsity sports, good board
scores, and the "right" religion (just a joke please) and didn't get
accepted.
Don't know how many jock majors they have, but every school these days
(including NU) has a jock major and a way to "value" athletic talent in the
admissions process, so I don't think we can feel particularly superior about
that. The important measurement is whether or not the kids who attend on
scholarship actually graduate and the 2005 report on the NCAA site shows
that they are actually doing slightly better than NU in that regard.
They admittedly don't invest as much money in their grad school as schools
like NU, but if you are an undergrad, perhaps that is good news.
I think that they have proven that changing football coaches isn't a bad
thing as long as you end up with the right one in the end, because they now
have a shot at a NC and only a handful of the kids starting were recruited
by Weis, and in his first year there he got a recruiting class ranked in the
top five. But I'm also willing to concede, that because of their history
they may be a special case.
ND fans can be obnoxious whether they are winning or losing. Beating ND in
1995 is one of my fondest memories right after beating Michigan in AA.
Compared with OSU, however, I think that we have much more in common with ND
than we have in difference. Our kids (and the ND kids) don't regularly
torch their furniture, for example, when the football teams plays a big
game. I don't watch many ND games because I have a hard time listening the
Brent Mushburger. I do watch some of the OSU games though because I want to
see them lose. When watching the OSU Texas game, however, I found my self
rooting for OSU only because I knew that would make their defeat at the
hands of NU or some other BT team (UoM?) later in the year that much
sweeter.
Jeff
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Sent: Wednesday, September 13, 2006 12:01 PM
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Subject: Re: [NU Sports] Season (was: Hoeppner)
In a message dated 9/13/2006 8:46:34 A.M. Pacific Standard Time,
s.fridley at comcast.net writes:
But having grown up in the Chicago area with the insufferability of the
domers I've known over four decades, I also have the perfect right to hate
ND.
Having graduated from such a fine institution as NU, we all should have
learned by now that we shouldn't Hate anyone...much less a football
program.
Just pity the pitiful fools that are so insufferable.
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