[NU Sports] Torre probably out in NY, Pinella in?
Roy Lamberton
rstetson at capps-assoc.com
Mon Oct 9 13:04:57 CDT 2006
Rex Barney always said that Baseball was Pitching and Defense
And of course the old maxim about Defense wins championships.
The Red Sox are about to dump all their "offense" to try to find more Offense.
They're probably going to let Mark Loretta go, even though he was part of the
team that played such good defense early in the season and batted just under
.300 for the season.
[or is that why the Red Sox never make it thru the post season, except once?]
rsl
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: nwu-sports-bounces at tssi.com
> [mailto:nwu-sports-bounces at tssi.com] On Behalf Of John A. DeGroat
> Sent: Monday, October 09, 2006 1:54 PM
> To: Arthur Miller
> Cc: nwu-sports at romaine.tssi.com
> Subject: Re: [NU Sports] Torre probably out in NY, Pinella in?
>
>
> In a short series, playoff or world series, good pitching
> wins out. My
> Tigers' hitting was not much better than mediocre but they
> had better
> pitching than the other teams, never mind that they blew the
> last series
> against the Royals. The Yankees pitching wasn't much better
> if at all
> compared to other teams, but over a long season their
> superior hitting
> compensated for their so-so pitching.That's my opinion at least
>
> John DeGroat
>
> Arthur Miller wrote:
>
> >I have been hearing this a lot lately from the commentators, but I
> >don't get it. The line of reasoning seems to be that the Yankees'
> >strategy is good enough to win 97 games in the regular
> season (best in
> >the AL), but somehow in the postseason it becomes a flawed approach?
> >
> >Perhaps a more reasonable answer is this: The postseason
> series format
> >(especially the best-of-5 Division Series) is simply too
> small a sample
> >space for the better team to consistently emerge victorious.
> In other
> >words, it's a roll of the dice. The fact that the Yankees
> haven't won
> >a WS in 6 years after winning 3 of 4 could largely be due to random
> >chance, not a structural problem with the team makeup, lack of
> >motivation, poor managerial decisions, or all the other drama-tinged
> >reasons we like to use to explain sports outcomes.
> >
> >Steinbrenner and most of the sports journalism world seem to ignore
> >this possibility. IMHO, if you get your team to the
> postseason after a
> >grueling 162-game season, you've done nearly all that you
> can. After
> >that, fate takes over...hopefully, your team will hit a hot streak
> >(like the Sox last year), but in baseball these things are hard to
> >control.
> >
> >But you're right in that the Yankees are getting their wins the easy
> >way, by buying proven veterans. Alas, the easy way is also the most
> >expensive. One of these years, Steinbrenner is going to wise up and
> >ask his staff why their ROI is so poor, i.e. why they have
> to pay over
> >twice as much per win as any other team out there. If/when he gets
> >tired of overpaying for wins, he'll start building teams the
> hard way:
> >good drafts and a strong farm system, coupled with patience
> and (gasp)
> >acceptance of a sub-.500 season now and then.
> >
> >Just my 2 cents. And trust me, I'm no Yankees fan.
> >
> >Art Miller
> >
> >-----Original Message-----
> >From: nwu-sports-bounces at tssi.com
> [mailto:nwu-sports-bounces at tssi.com]
> >On Behalf Of Jeff Beamsley
> >Sent: Monday, October 09, 2006 10:28 AM
> >To: nwu-sports at romaine.tssi.com
> >Subject: RE: [NU Sports] Torre probably out in NY, Pinella in?
> >
> >I think that Pinella will get fired first because George's strategy
> >(the best team that money can buy) doesn't work anymore.
> Baseball is
> >all about pitching and pitching these days is all about young arms.
> >Young arms come from the minor leagues. Small payroll teams have
> >discovered they can be competitive by investing in minor league
> >salaries rather than major league salaries. As a result, smaller
> >payroll teams are holding onto their young talent rather
> than selling
> >them to the Yankees. Look at the twins, sox, and tigers and
> you'll see
> >that their AAA teams are successful too. [...]
> >
> >I think that Yankees will always be able to buy their way
> into the post
> >season with a great offense, but as long as we continue to
> see a wealth
> >of pitching coming out of the minor leagues and drug policies get
> >enforced, defense and small ball will beat teams that depend
> on offense
> >to win. [...]
> >
> >Jeff
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >-----Original Message-----
> >From: nwu-sports-bounces at tssi.com
> [mailto:nwu-sports-bounces at tssi.com]
> >On Behalf Of Mike Nolan
> >Sent: Sunday, October 08, 2006 9:33 PM
> >To: nwu-sports at romaine.tssi.com
> >Subject: [NU Sports] Torre probably out in NY, Pinella in?
> >
> >It appears the man who REALLY made "You're Fired!" a part of the New
> >York lexicon is about to dump Joe Torre for another retread, Lou
> >Pinella, so I guess Joe Girardi is headed back to Wrigley if the
> >Cubbies ever get their front office staffed.
> >
> >Pinella and Girardi have my sympathies, both appear to be
> headed into
> >what are likely to be no-win situations. Any bets on who gets fired
> >first?
> >
> >The Bears are trying to prosper despite inept ownership, the
> Sox, Bulls
> >and Black Hawks have yet to do that (beyond a fluke year in 2005 for
> >the south siders and the MJ years at the Stadium.) But the
> Tribune has
> >proven to be a worse owner than the Wrigley family for the
> Cubs, and 20
> >years ago I wouldn't have said that was possible!
> >--
> >Mike Nolan
> >
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