[NU Sports] Torre probably out in NY, Pinella in?

[John A. DeGroat]

In a short series, playoff or world series, good pitching wins out.  My 
Tigers' hitting was not much better than mediocre but they had  better 
pitching than the other teams, never mind that they blew the last series 
against the Royals.  The Yankees pitching wasn't much better if at all 
compared to other teams, but over a long season their superior hitting 
compensated for their so-so pitching.That's my opinion at least

John DeGroat

Arthur Miller wrote:

>I have been hearing this a lot lately from the commentators, but I don't get
>it.  The line of reasoning seems to be that the Yankees' strategy is good
>enough to win 97 games in the regular season (best in the AL), but somehow
>in the postseason it becomes a flawed approach?
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>Perhaps a more reasonable answer is this:  The postseason series format
>(especially the best-of-5 Division Series) is simply too small a sample
>space for the better team to consistently emerge victorious.  In other
>words, it's a roll of the dice.  The fact that the Yankees haven't won a WS
>in 6 years after winning 3 of 4 could largely be due to random chance, not a
>structural problem with the team makeup, lack of motivation, poor managerial
>decisions, or all the other drama-tinged reasons we like to use to explain
>sports outcomes.
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>Steinbrenner and most of the sports journalism world seem to ignore this
>possibility.  IMHO, if you get your team to the postseason after a grueling
>162-game season, you've done nearly all that you can.  After that, fate
>takes over...hopefully, your team will hit a hot streak (like the Sox last
>year), but in baseball these things are hard to control.
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>But you're right in that the Yankees are getting their wins the easy way, by
>buying proven veterans.  Alas, the easy way is also the most expensive.  One
>of these years, Steinbrenner is going to wise up and ask his staff why their
>ROI is so poor, i.e. why they have to pay over twice as much per win as any
>other team out there.  If/when he gets tired of overpaying for wins, he'll
>start building teams the hard way: good drafts and a strong farm system,
>coupled with patience and (gasp) acceptance of a sub-.500 season now and
>then.
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>Just my 2 cents.  And trust me, I'm no Yankees fan.
>
>Art Miller
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>-----Original Message-----
>From: nwu-sports-bounces at tssi.com [mailto:nwu-sports-bounces at tssi.com] On
>Behalf Of Jeff Beamsley
>Sent: Monday, October 09, 2006 10:28 AM
>To: nwu-sports at romaine.tssi.com
>Subject: RE: [NU Sports] Torre probably out in NY, Pinella in?
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>I think that Pinella will get fired first because George's strategy (the
>best team that money can buy) doesn't work anymore.  Baseball is all about
>pitching and pitching these days is all about young arms.  Young arms come
>from the minor leagues. Small payroll teams have discovered they can be
>competitive by investing in minor league salaries rather than major league
>salaries.  As a result, smaller payroll teams are holding onto their young
>talent rather than selling them to the Yankees.  Look at the twins, sox, and
>tigers and you'll see that their AAA teams are successful too.
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>I think that Yankees will always be able to buy their way into the post
>season with a great offense, but as long as we continue to see a wealth of
>pitching coming out of the minor leagues and drug policies get enforced,
>defense and small ball will beat teams that depend on offense to win.
>[...]
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>Jeff
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>-----Original Message-----
>From: nwu-sports-bounces at tssi.com [mailto:nwu-sports-bounces at tssi.com] On
>Behalf Of Mike Nolan
>Sent: Sunday, October 08, 2006 9:33 PM
>To: nwu-sports at romaine.tssi.com
>Subject: [NU Sports] Torre probably out in NY, Pinella in?
>
>It appears the man who REALLY made "You're Fired!" a part of the New York
>lexicon is about to dump Joe Torre for another retread, Lou Pinella, so I
>guess Joe Girardi is headed back to Wrigley if the Cubbies ever get their
>front office staffed.
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>Pinella and Girardi have my sympathies, both appear to be headed into what
>are likely to be no-win situations.  Any bets on who gets fired first?
>
>The Bears are trying to prosper despite inept ownership, the Sox, Bulls and
>Black Hawks have yet to do that (beyond a fluke year in 2005 for the south
>siders and the MJ years at the Stadium.)  But the Tribune has proven to be a
>worse owner than the Wrigley family for the Cubs, and 20 years ago I
>wouldn't have said that was possible!
>--
>Mike Nolan
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