From sjtruog at yahoo.com  Sun Oct  1 02:21:01 2006
From: sjtruog at yahoo.com (SjT (Stephen J. Truog))
Date: Sun Oct  1 02:21:04 2006
Subject: [NU Sports] Big Ten today ...
Message-ID: <20061001072101.49881.qmail@web52908.mail.yahoo.com>

Well, the evening games didn't quite live up to the
hype, though I have to say that OSU is a clear #1
right now and Michigan is mighty close ... that game
in November could be a colossal #1 vs. #2 showdown if
the games break right. It's tough to see anyone
beating the Buckeyes until Nov. 18 and Michigan looks
like they're going to come focused every week this
year, which is a good thing for them considering they
have Iowa, rival MSU and a night game in Happy Valley
remaining.

For all the credit Kirk Ferentz deservedly gets, I
think he really made a big mistake by taking the ball
first tonight in the game. He had a frenzied crowd as
fired up as I've seen Iowa City, foaming at the mouth
to scream their heads off. So why not kick off, pin
the Bucks deep and keep the roar going? Instead, he
takes the ball, quiets the crowd amd goes 3-and-out,
giving OSU a midfield starting point. Just seemed like
a bad call that started off a bad evening for Iowa. At
least make OSU drive a full 80 yards against the noise
to start.

As for NU, anyone want to fill those of us who didn't
see the game in on what we looked like? At halftime,
it seemed like we were in it, and my brother -- the
PSU alum -- said Nick Roach and the D was killing PSU,
holding them inside the 20 three times for early FGs
and intercepting a pass deep to set up our score. He
said the one TD PSU did get in the first half came
only after a bunch of tries at the 2 and 1 yard line.

So it sounds like the D was strong for a half at least
and the O just couldn't get it going. I'm sure the
pressure and mistakes avalanched in the second half
and  I expect we will face even more difficulties in
the hostile environment of Madison next weekend.

However, while I admit bowl chances are slim and none,
I don't think we'll go 0-8 either. Purdue and MSU both
look beatable if we can get our confidence back as we
return home, and the Illini may be improving, but we
still know we can run on them. But we knew it could be
a rough three-game swing before the season and Fitz
needs to keep the team focused on the next game and
not let things snowball into doubt and disarray before
our return home.

GO CATS!!!
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From tbng at comcast.net  Sun Oct  1 05:43:19 2006
From: tbng at comcast.net (Dennis W. Brandt)
Date: Sun Oct  1 05:43:30 2006
Subject: [NU Sports] Moe Schwartz, where art thou?
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The NU defense played with heart, and I can firmly state that there is 
improvement over last season.  We got little in the way of pass rush, but 
the Cats D played well enough to win until they flat ran out of gas.  That 
said, I'm not sure there were as good defensively as the Penn State offense 
was weak at quarterback.

But oh!  Our offense.  Or shall I say "inoffense?"   There is nothing wrong 
with it that wouldn't be substantially cured by sneaking Brett Basanez back 
in as a freshman and calling him Moe Schwartz.  (Non one would ever know. 
Right?)  Tyrell Sutton is now a wasted resource because we cannot pass the 
ball even a little bit.  We're neither talented enough for a run only 
offense nor does the spread lend itself to that.  Nonetheless, we'd better 
try.  Poor Andrew Brewer looked wide-eyed lost out there against one of the 
best defenses in the Big 10, and it won't get much easier against Wisconsin. 
I expected a drop-off this season at quarterback, just not a plunge into the 
Grand Canyon. 

From johnadeg at bellatlantic.net  Sun Oct  1 06:54:48 2006
From: johnadeg at bellatlantic.net (John A. DeGroat)
Date: Sun Oct  1 06:55:02 2006
Subject: [NU Sports] Moe Schwartz, where art thou?
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I think that you have it pretty much right.  But if Brewer says that he 
was "content" with his performance, that is really scary.

John DeGroat

Dennis W. Brandt wrote:

> The NU defense played with heart, and I can firmly state that there is 
> improvement over last season.  We got little in the way of pass rush, 
> but the Cats D played well enough to win until they flat ran out of 
> gas.  That said, I'm not sure there were as good defensively as the 
> Penn State offense was weak at quarterback.
>
> But oh!  Our offense.  Or shall I say "inoffense?"   There is nothing 
> wrong with it that wouldn't be substantially cured by sneaking Brett 
> Basanez back in as a freshman and calling him Moe Schwartz.  (Non one 
> would ever know. Right?)  Tyrell Sutton is now a wasted resource 
> because we cannot pass the ball even a little bit.  We're neither 
> talented enough for a run only offense nor does the spread lend itself 
> to that.  Nonetheless, we'd better try.  Poor Andrew Brewer looked 
> wide-eyed lost out there against one of the best defenses in the Big 
> 10, and it won't get much easier against Wisconsin. I expected a 
> drop-off this season at quarterback, just not a plunge into the Grand 
> Canyon.
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From DPENDERG at aol.com  Sun Oct  1 08:39:15 2006
From: DPENDERG at aol.com (DPENDERG@aol.com)
Date: Sun Oct  1 08:39:28 2006
Subject: [NU Sports] Moe Schwartz, where art thou?
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D played "with heart" but gave up 500+ yards against an inexperienced,  
mediocre PSU quarterback.  Can you imagine what UM or OSU would do against  the 
spirited Cat defense?  And, with just two starters back from last year,  the PSU 
defense stops the Cats. They don't use excuses and moan about rebuilding  in 
Happy Valley.  They just reload.  Yes, MSU is a troubled program,  but I think 
we have reason to be equally disappointed so far with a Cat team  that should 
have offered much more than we have seen.   To those who dream  about 2007 or 
2008, how can you be so certain when a team loaded with returning  starters 
has played so poorly?  It's so easy to live in the future, but I  expected more 
this season, especially with a supposedly dominant offensive  line and one of 
the best running backs in the country. 
 
 In a message dated 10/1/2006 6:44:13 A.M. Eastern Standard Time,  
tbng@comcast.net writes:

The NU  defense played with heart, and I can firmly state that there is  
improvement over last season.  We got little in the way of pass rush,  but 
the Cats D played well enough to win until they flat ran out of  gas.  That 
said, I'm not sure there were as good defensively as the  Penn State offense 
was weak at quarterback.

But oh!  Our  offense.  Or shall I say "inoffense?"   There is nothing wrong  
with it that wouldn't be substantially cured by sneaking Brett Basanez  back 
in as a freshman and calling him Moe Schwartz.  (Non one would  ever know. 
Right?)  Tyrell Sutton is now a wasted resource because we  cannot pass the 
ball even a little bit.  We're neither talented  enough for a run only 
offense nor does the spread lend itself to  that.  Nonetheless, we'd better 
try.  Poor Andrew Brewer looked  wide-eyed lost out there against one of the 
best defenses in the Big 10,  and it won't get much easier against Wisconsin. 
I expected a drop-off this  season at quarterback, just not a plunge into the 
Grand Canyon.  

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From johnl at mac.com  Sun Oct  1 11:14:53 2006
From: johnl at mac.com (John Labbe)
Date: Sun Oct  1 11:15:03 2006
Subject: [NU Sports] Big Ten today ...
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>
> As for NU, anyone want to fill those of us who didn't
> see the game in on what we looked like? At halftime,
> it seemed like we were in it, and my brother -- the
> PSU alum -- said Nick Roach and the D was killing PSU,
> holding them inside the 20 three times for early FGs
> and intercepting a pass deep to set up our score. He
> said the one TD PSU did get in the first half came
> only after a bunch of tries at the 2 and 1 yard line.


If you missed it, the D played very well inside the red zone in the 
first half.  We held PSU to 9 points on their first 4 trips to the 
redzone, including, I believe, 3 trips inside the 10.  On the first of 
those we forced a fumble at about the 10.  The next three we held PSU 
to field goals.  Then on their 5th trip to the redzone we made them use 
4 downs to get the TD after they had a first and goal from about the 2.

The problem was that we gave up a number of big passes to let PSU get 
into the redzone.  I don't think we expected PSU QB to be able to throw 
as far as he did.  I thought he had a real coming out game against us.  
The one TD PSU got was on their 5th trip to the redzone, and it was 
after they got the ball with only about 2 minutes to play in the half.  
A couple of big plays later, and they were knocking on the door.

Unfortunately, we haven't been able to get our own QB act together.  It 
hurts that we're breaking in a new QB and on top of that the one we 
were going with is now injured so we had to start yet another QB for 
his first start ever at Happy Valley.

I also don't think we can underestimate the loss of our offensive 
mastermind or the fact that we're also starting a new offensive 
coordinator.  I just hope that we continue to see some improvement 
throughout the season.



From mlinhardt at netzero.net  Sun Oct  1 11:23:03 2006
From: mlinhardt at netzero.net (mlinhardt@netzero.net)
Date: Sun Oct  1 15:24:59 2006
Subject: [NU Sports] Big Ten today ...
Message-ID: <20061001.092341.752.422981@webmail08.nyc.untd.com>

Defense:
I thought the defense played very well, although Deante did an 
imitation of burnt bread.
Our run defense was especially good, especially compared to the last 
couple of years.  
We did not get any QB pressure and that hurt a lot.  
We put ourselves in position to acquire 4 turnovers and only could 
turn 2.  Brendan's dropped pick and Cole/Battle deflection to Eddie 
Simpson in the endzone really hurt.  We need those turnovers given our 
offensive ineptitude.

Offense:
Brewer is not the answer.  He is developmently behind Kafka by a wide 
stretch.  I was totally convinced that Bacher was going to start given 
that Fitz was not announcing the QB until gametime.
The only intelligent comment the announcers made was that Tyrell 
really missed BB.  Ain't that the truth!

Special Teams:
Our punting is abysmal!  The only thing saving us was that our 
coverage team is much improved.
Our kickoffs are outstanding.  Too bad the kicker does not get a 
chance to practice in gameday situations -- we don't score ;-(

Overall if we can get Kafka/Bacher back and produced consistent 6+ 
play drives(no 3 and outs) our defense can keep us in it.


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From bwdolphin146 at yahoo.com  Sun Oct  1 15:51:34 2006
From: bwdolphin146 at yahoo.com (Brad Wilson)
Date: Sun Oct  1 15:51:40 2006
Subject: [NU Sports] report from State College
Message-ID: <20061001205134.23264.qmail@web51310.mail.yahoo.com>

Thanks to an old friend of my mother's, a huge PSU
booster, I watched Saturday's debacle from 50-yard
line seats 40 rows up after tailgating in reserved
parking 90 seconds from the Stadium. (chicken, good
beer, fresh veggies, Bloody Marys, the works)

I wish the game had matched the setup. The weather
wasn't ideal, but it wasn't too cold or (quite) too
wet; typical Big Ten weather for grind-it-out
football.

But NU couldn't have ground pepper Saturday. The
offensive line was outquicked and outmatched. There
wasn't a prayer of getting a running back going -- by
the time the handoff was made, the blocking had broken
down. Only Brewer's niftiness allowed any QB runs to
work at all, and most of those were quickly closed off
by PSU's gifted linebackers. If NU can't run, NU can't
win.

And the pass protection was if anything worse --
Brewer had no chance to get set in a rhythm at all.
How he was not sacked 12-15 times is beyond me; only
his speed saved him. Even the PSU fans around us were
stunned at how he got away on several plays. Brewer is
the quickest NU QB I have ever seen. 

On a day when there was no blocking to speak of, it's
hard to judge the skill players. Sutton didn't look
bad when there was some room to run, which there never
was, though he made a nice play on the TD. Brewer
didn't make plays a more experienced QB would have,
and he didn't make some even he should have, but what
can we possibly expect from a redshirt frosh QB with
virtually no experience starting his first Big Ten
game in front of 107,000 people? His first series
started at the 9 in the closed end of the stadium.
Tough, tough task for the kid. The receivers made some
nice plays, esp. Lane, who to me is the best we have.
Good to see Thompson back but he looked tentative.

The defense's numbers were awful by the end of the
game, but I thought they played pretty well until they
got worn down midway through the third quarter;
remember they received no support from the offense at
all, nothing at all to feed off of. 

Take away the one long pass Cole was beaten on and he
played  very well, esp. in run support and on making
tough open-field tackles on Derrick Williams. Roach
and Eaton had their moments, as did Eddie Simpson
(let's see more of him) and Corey Wootton played his
ass off with hustle and intensity. And hold PSU to FGs
four times inside the NU 20 is terrific; the NU
defense took  PSU's best shots and kept us in the
game. They spent way too much time on the field and
were shot by the end, but with a smidge of support
from the offense this  could have been a winning
effort (and certainly would have been in 2005 against,
say, UCLA).

So all the defense's problems came from the lack of
offense? Well, no. 

Biggest problem: no pass rush. Battle doesn't catch
213 yards of passes and PSU doesn't bomb away 4 long
passes (the one right before the half was a killer) if
there was any pass rush. And aside from Wootton, who
PSU quickly double-teamed, there was no rush at all.
Morelli could have had a cup of coffee every pass play
without spilling a drop from the pressure. There has
to be more pass rush. I'd rather send the house and
occasionally get beat while coming up with sacks and
fumbles and picks than sitting back and still getting
beaten.

Other problems: Other than Smith's recovery the
safeties did nothing. Kadela seemed overmatched.
Battle was, charitably, very poor. The middle of the
defensive line was ineffective at run-stopping and
when the LBs couldn't make plays there were a lot of
big cutback runs.

Special teams were fine; Larscheid did fine, returns
were decent and coverage pretty good. This and the
much  lower penalty numbers (though Belding had two,
ouch) are welcome changes from 2005.

Coaching? I liked the decision to go for it on
4th-and-1 and I thought Fitz did some other things
right (punting on a 4th-and-1 from the NU 32 [from the
42 I'd have gone for it]) and declining the
delay-of-game PSU intentionally took on the FG try to
get a better angle. With no blocking the playcalling
hardly mattered; not much will work with no blocking
-- the screens were a nice idea, though. I do think
Colby needed to sell out more to generate pressure and
why we could not stop that little delay-draw to Hunt
that they ran at least 27 times (or so it seemed) for
less than 5 yards I cannot imagine. (My NU friend with
me called it at least 5 times; if he could see it
coming why couldn't Colby?

So, not a pretty picture, but ... the defense is
improved and getting better but still has a way to go.
If the offense can improve and come along, there's
some reason for optimism against MSU, Perdoo,
Illinois. 

But NU simply does not have the experience or moxie
yet to play with teams full of All-Americans like PSU,
Michigan and Ohio State. We have never had and never
will have the talent these schools get, but have been
able to overcome that deficiency with smarts,
experience, savvy, guts and hustle every so often.
Without the experience and the moxie of a Basanez,
Fitzgerald (as player) or Kustok, NU doesn't have much
chance against elite teams this season, I am afraid.
2007 may well be different. 

Brad Wilson




 







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From tbng at comcast.net  Sun Oct  1 17:39:35 2006
From: tbng at comcast.net (Dennis W. Brandt)
Date: Sun Oct  1 17:39:43 2006
Subject: [NU Sports] report from State College
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<We have never had [talent] and never
will have the talent these schools get

The first is true, but I am sick and tired of hearing the second, not that 
the opinion is unique to Brad Wilson.  GET the talent, or switch to a weaker 
conference.  There are plenty of selling points for Northwestern.  Sell 
them. 

From jeffb at hilgraeve.com  Sun Oct  1 18:35:36 2006
From: jeffb at hilgraeve.com (Jeff Beamsley)
Date: Sun Oct  1 18:35:47 2006
Subject: [NU Sports] Moe Schwartz, where art thou?
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As I've pointed out before, if you can't pass the ball, you're basically
toast in this league.

We can't pass the ball.  Until we can, I don't think that you will see much
different in terms of defensive game plans from our opponents.

As far as getting a win in the BT, Illinois looked plenty good enough to
beat us with or without Kafka.

Jeff
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D played "with heart" but gave up 500+ yards against an inexperienced,
mediocre PSU quarterback.  Can you imagine what UM or OSU would do against
the spirited Cat defense?  And, with just two starters back from last year,
the PSU defense stops the Cats. They don't use excuses and moan about
rebuilding  in Happy Valley.  They just reload.  Yes, MSU is a troubled
program,  but I think we have reason to be equally disappointed so far with
a Cat team  that should 
have offered much more than we have seen.   To those who dream  about 2007
or 
2008, how can you be so certain when a team loaded with returning  starters
has played so poorly?  It's so easy to live in the future, but I  expected
more this season, especially with a supposedly dominant offensive  line and
one of the best running backs in the country. 
 
 In a message dated 10/1/2006 6:44:13 A.M. Eastern Standard Time,
tbng@comcast.net writes:

The NU  defense played with heart, and I can firmly state that there is
improvement over last season.  We got little in the way of pass rush,  but
the Cats D played well enough to win until they flat ran out of  gas.  That
said, I'm not sure there were as good defensively as the  Penn State offense
was weak at quarterback.

But oh!  Our  offense.  Or shall I say "inoffense?"   There is nothing wrong

with it that wouldn't be substantially cured by sneaking Brett Basanez  back
in as a freshman and calling him Moe Schwartz.  (Non one would  ever know. 
Right?)  Tyrell Sutton is now a wasted resource because we  cannot pass the
ball even a little bit.  We're neither talented  enough for a run only
offense nor does the spread lend itself to  that.  Nonetheless, we'd better
try.  Poor Andrew Brewer looked  wide-eyed lost out there against one of the
best defenses in the Big 10,  and it won't get much easier against
Wisconsin. 
I expected a drop-off this  season at quarterback, just not a plunge into
the Grand Canyon.  

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From DPENDERG at aol.com  Mon Oct  2 07:25:53 2006
From: DPENDERG at aol.com (DPENDERG@aol.com)
Date: Mon Oct  2 07:25:59 2006
Subject: [NU Sports] report from State College
Message-ID: <473.733a8e4.32525f51@aol.com>

 
I think it may be overstatement to say we've never had the talent to  compete 
with elite football schools.  Our record in the Big Ten  championship years 
certainly illustrates a reasonably high talent level.   Unfortunately, we have 
not been able to consistently sustain that level from  year to year.  
 
Looking back at the PSU game, it must be remembered that the Lions are in a  
basically rebuilding stage.  Only two defensive starters return from  2005 and 
at this point a very average, inexperienced quarterback.  The  Wildcats -- 
with a lot of returning starters -- simply have not performed  anything close to 
their potential this year.  The quarterback position, of  course, remains 
unsettled and uninspiring, but I think the new, young QBs  would be much better 
if our supposedly strong offensive line had played well. 
 
The conventional wisdom that the NU defense is better this year does  not 
convince me. In the UNH, UNR and PSU games, I saw the same sloppy tackling,  pass 
coverage breakdowns, and nonexistent pass rush that we have deplored  for 
several years.  Penn State is at best just an average Big Ten  offense.  Giving 
up 500+ yards to PSU hardly qualifies as "improvement,"  although with so many 
returning starters this year, the Cat defense should be in  fact better, 
although any improvement right now is marginal at best.
 
 
 
In a message dated 10/1/2006 6:40:50 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,  
tbng@comcast.net writes:

<We  have never had [talent] and never
will have the talent these schools  get

The first is true, but I am sick and tired of hearing the second,  not that 
the opinion is unique to Brad Wilson.  GET the talent, or  switch to a weaker 
conference.  There are plenty of selling points  for Northwestern.  Sell 
them.  

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From sjtruog at yahoo.com  Mon Oct  2 08:11:11 2006
From: sjtruog at yahoo.com (SjT (Stephen J. Truog))
Date: Mon Oct  2 08:11:17 2006
Subject: [NU Sports] report from State College
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> I think it may be overstatement to say we've never
> had the talent to  compete 
> with elite football schools.  Our record in the Big
> Ten  championship years 
> certainly illustrates a reasonably high talent

I'm not sure about that - if you judge talent by who's
good enough to play at the next level, we really
didn't have much talent on those teams either. If
anything, our talent has gotten slightly better since
the mid 1990s, with an NFL player or two every year.
But in 1995, Bates was our only real legit NFL
prospect while the teams we were playing had much,
much more talent.

Thankfully, in college football, talent isn't
everything. We used innovation on offense in 2000 to
close the talent gap and tremendous teamwork and a
high football IQ on the field and sidelines in 1995.
In 1996, well, we just had a never-give-up attitude.

> several years.  Penn State is at best just an
> average Big Ten  offense.  Giving 

Don't sell PSU's offense -- or defense -- short. They
have returning talent at wideout and running back and
a lot of speed. If their young QB matures into his
role, they're easily a top 20 team. As for the D, they
lost a lot but are still quite stingy and certainly
played well enough to beat OSU and even Notre Dame -
the O just gave those games away with turnovers and
mistakes.

I'm not happy with our season so far, but I'm
certainly not surprised either. We all knew the
situation going into this season and what I'm really
looking for from Fitz now is the ability to hold this
team together and make noticeable improvement
throughout the rest of the season. Especially at the
quarterback position (though a step-up game by the
O-line would really be appreciated).

GO CATS!!!
-SjT

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From rstetson at capps-assoc.com  Mon Oct  2 10:09:37 2006
From: rstetson at capps-assoc.com (Roy Lamberton)
Date: Mon Oct  2 10:09:41 2006
Subject: [NU Sports] NU Sports News Digest for 10/2
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FOOTBALL

     What can you say about a pounding...
     Wildcats Fall To Nittany Lions, 33-7
      http://nusports.cstv.com/sports/m-footbl/recaps/093006aab.html 
     + Nittany Lions devour Northwestern's QB
 
http://chicagosports.chicagotribune.com/sports/college/northwestern/cs-060930nu,
1,2742407.story?coll=cs-college-headlines 
     + NU's running game still struggling
 
http://chicagosports.chicagotribune.com/sports/college/northwestern/cs-060930nub
its,1,4975327.story?coll=cs-college-headlines 
     + Penn State topples Wildcats
      http://www.suntimes.com/sports/colleges/79158,CST-SPT-nu01.article 
     + Defense Holds Williams While Butler Runs Amok
 
http://www.dailynorthwestern.com/news/2006/10/02/Sports/Defense.Holds.Williams.W
hile.Butler.Runs.Amok.football-2319554.shtml 
     + Brewer 'Excited' For Contest, But First Start Not So Sweet
 
http://www.dailynorthwestern.com/news/2006/10/02/Sports/Brewer.excited.For.Conte
st.But.First.Start.Not.So.Sweet.football-2319614.shtml 
     + The Real Consistency Problem is the NU Fans Stands
 
http://www.dailynorthwestern.com/news/2006/10/02/Sports/The-Real.Consistency.Pro
blem.Is.The.Nu.Fans.Stands-2319505.shtml 
     + 'Linebacker U' Sacks Wildcats
 
http://www.dailynorthwestern.com/news/2006/10/02/Sports/linebacker.U.Sacks.Wildc
ats.football-2319521.shtml 
     + Penn St. takes control of NU in second half
      http://www.dailyherald.com/sports/northwestern.asp?id=233759 
     + NU's Fitzgerald can't find a way to beat Paterno
 
http://news.google.com/news/url?sa=t&ct=us/8-3&fp=4521e534d72eb67f&ei=dwUhRbvfJM
rIHP6E8dIH&url=http%3A//www.nwherald.com/SportsSection/college/311523475446700.p
hp&cid=1109840148&sig2=BtlI2LHwcnX8ke4-44qCNA 
     + Tough times for Wildcats
 
http://www.centredaily.com/mld/centredaily/sports/colleges/pennsylvania_state_un
iversity/15651265.htm 

     But Fitz has JoePa's stamp of approval
     Cronin: Paterno: NU football 'is in good hands' with Fitzgerald
      http://www.dailysouthtown.com/sports/cronin/77502,1SD4-29.article 

     Next up for the Cats:
     10/7@ Wisconsin Badgers
     IU's Hoeppner back, but Badgers prevail
 
http://chicagosports.chicagotribune.com/sports/college/cs-060930wisconsin,1,3067
784.story?coll=cs-college-headlines 
     + Stocco, Badgers air it out
      http://www.suntimes.com/sports/colleges/79270,CST-SPT-wis01.article 
     + Penn State takes consolation in win over Northwestern
 
http://news.google.com/news/url?sa=t&ct=us/0-0&fp=45212cde95a260db&ei=_gIhRcWTMK
iuHPGfrNcH&url=http%3A//www.philly.com/mld/dailynews/sports/15658132.htm&cid=110
9840148&sig2=aiT1n0Prxp8LuG__XwMrnw 
     + PSU walk-on gets his kicks
 
http://www.nj.com/sports/expresstimes/index.ssf?/base/sports-0/115967528596910.x
ml&coll=2 
     + Penn State's star linebacker back up to speed
      http://www.mercurynews.com/mld/mercurynews/sports/15656407.htm 
     + Penn State left tackle Brown sits out with knee injury
      http://www.sportingnews.com/yourturn/viewtopic.php?t=133349 
     + Bye-Bye, Bye; Lions Will Play This Week
      http://pennstate.scout.com/2/574606.html 
     $ One On One With WR Deon Butler
      http://pennstate.scout.com/2/574541.html 
     $ NU: Kevin Kelly Q&A
      http://pennstate.scout.com/2/574414.html 
     $ NU: Game Breakdown
      http://pennstate.scout.com/2/574331.html 
     + Record day for Butler
 
http://www.collegian.psu.edu/archive/2006/10/10-02-06tdc/10-02-06dnews-07.asp 
     + Nittany Lions pounce Wildcats
 
http://www.collegian.psu.edu/archive/2006/10/10-02-06tdc/10-02-06dnews-08.asp 
     + Morelli hopes to rise above
 
http://www.collegian.psu.edu/archive/2006/09/09-29-06tdc/09-29-06dsports-11.asp 
     + Wilkins: Execution key to repeating Big Ten championship run
 
http://www.collegian.psu.edu/archive/2006/09/09-29-06tdc/09-29-06dsports-10.asp 
     $ Badgers trounce hapless Hoosiers
      http://wisconsin.scout.com/2/574361.html 
     $ Miller: Hoosier Daddy, Indiana?
      http://wisconsin.scout.com/2/574345.html 
     + Offensive fireworks, Indiana defense just what Badgers needed
      http://badgerherald.com/sports/2006/10/02/offensive_fireworks.php 
     + Premier passer emerges
      http://badgerherald.com/sports/2006/10/02/premier_passer_emerg.php 
     + 'Invaluable' time for T.D.
      http://badgerherald.com/sports/2006/10/02/invaluable_time_fo.php 
     + UW offense rebounds to bury Hoosiers
 
http://www.dailycardinal.com/sports/uw-offense-rebounds-to-bury-hoosiers.html 
     + Offense a force against Hoosiers
      http://www.dailycardinal.com/sports/offense-a-force-against-hoosiers.html 
     + Decommits, departures, injuries have led to struggles at receiver
      http://www.madison.com/tct/sports/uw/football/index.php?ntid=101051 
     + Defense comes together
      http://www.jsonline.com/story/index.aspx?id=507089 
     + This 'Hoosiers' tale doesn't have happy ending
      http://www.jsonline.com/story/index.aspx?id=506901 
     + UW's passing game grounds up Hoosiers
      http://www.jsonline.com/story/index.aspx?id=506898 
     + Badgers administer kill shot
      http://www.jsonline.com/story/index.aspx?id=506916 

     Penn State Nittany Lions
     WR Butler has record day for Penn State
      http://www.suntimes.com/sports/colleges/79180,CST-SPT-nunt01.article 
     + Bye-Bye, Bye; Lions Will Play This Week
      http://pennstate.scout.com/2/574606.html 
     + Nittany Lions pounce Wildcats
 
http://www.collegian.psu.edu/archive/2006/10/10-02-06tdc/10-02-06dnews-08.asp 
     + Penn State offense gets confidence boost
 
http://www.centredaily.com/mld/centredaily/sports/colleges/pennsylvania_state_un
iversity/15657513.htm 
     + Kelly has feel-good day against Northwestern
 
http://www.centredaily.com/mld/centredaily/sports/colleges/pennsylvania_state_un
iversity/15651273.htm 
     + Morelli's outing should silence critics
 
http://www.centredaily.com/mld/centredaily/sports/colleges/pennsylvania_state_un
iversity/15651264.htm 
     + Butler's effort adds to team's confidence
 
http://www.centredaily.com/mld/centredaily/sports/colleges/pennsylvania_state_un
iversity/15651263.htm 
     + Nittany Lions' defense again rises up
 
http://www.centredaily.com/mld/centredaily/sports/colleges/pennsylvania_state_un
iversity/15651272.htm 
     + Alford's flip didn't impress Paterno
 
http://www.centredaily.com/mld/centredaily/sports/colleges/pennsylvania_state_un
iversity/15651267.htm 
     + Butler serves up Penn State victory on a platter, 33-7
      http://www.post-gazette.com/pg/06274/726562-143.stm 

     Big 10
     SjT:the Big 10 Week 5
      http://northwestern.scout.com/2/574847.html 
     + No. 1 Ohio State, No. 6 Michigan Garner Wins in Nightcap
      http://bigten.cstv.com/sports/m-footbl/spec-rel/093006aaa.html 

RECRUITING

     David Arnold still getting calls
     Recruiters keep knocking after commitment
      http://www.ohio.com/mld/ohio/sports/high_school/15627400.htm 
     Dan Persa -
     Bulletin Board Material
      http://www.hurricanefootball.org/Articles/bulletinboard.htm 
     Recruiting Update: Aaron Springer
      http://story.scout.com/a.z?s=179&p=2&c=574699 
     Jordan Mabin happy with visit to Pitt
      http://story.scout.com/a.z?s=179&p=2&c=574612 
     One of the top women centers has NU on her list
     Jaeschke Has Final Four
      http://story.scout.com/a.z?s=179&p=2&c=574409 

CROSS COUNTRY

     Wildcats Finish Fifth at Loyola Lakefront Invitational
      http://nusports.cstv.com/sports/w-xc/recaps/093006aad.html 
     + Cats Join Sixty-Nine College Teams For Country's Biggest Meet
 
http://www.dailynorthwestern.com/news/2006/09/29/Sports/Cats-Join.SixtyNine.Coll
ege.Teams.For.Countrys.Biggest.Meet.womens.Cross.Country-2316529.shtml 

FIELD HOCKEY

     Wildcats Down Spartans, 3-2, in Overtime
      http://nusports.cstv.com/sports/w-fieldh/recaps/093006aab.html 

GOLF

     Women
     'Cats Shoot Lowest Final Round, Finish in Third
      http://nusports.cstv.com/sports/w-golf/recaps/100106aab.html 
     + Bad Weather Halts Play as 'Cats Sit in Fifth
      http://nusports.cstv.com/sports/w-golf/spec-rel/093006aak.html 

SOCCER

     Men
     No. 26 Northwestern Suffers 2-0 Loss at Wisconsin Sunday
      http://nusports.cstv.com/sports/m-soccer/recaps/100106aaa.html 

     Women
     'Cats Best Ohio State in Double Overtime, 4-3
      http://nusports.cstv.com/sports/w-soccer/recaps/100106aad.html 

     Wildcats Shut Out Minnesota, 1-0
      http://nusports.cstv.com/sports/w-soccer/recaps/092906aac.html 
     + Tough 'D' Lurks In Primetime Matchup
 
http://www.dailynorthwestern.com/news/2006/09/29/Sports/Tough.d.Lurks.In.Primeti
me.Matchup.womens.Soccer-2316446.shtml 

VOLLEYBALL

     Wildcats Rip Through Hawkeyes, 3-0
      http://nusports.cstv.com/sports/w-volley/recaps/092906aab.html 

MISCELLANY

     Auburn laptop stolen
      http://rss.cnn.com/%7Er/rss/si_ncaaf/%7E3/30885591/index.html 

Alumni

     Joe Girardi Sources: Girardi to be let go on Tuesday
 
http://florida.marlins.mlb.com/NASApp/mlb/news/article.jsp?ymd=20061001&content_
id=1694038&vkey=news_fla&fext=.jsp&c_id=fla 
     + Girardi to meet with front office Tuesday
 
http://www.sun-sentinel.com/sports/baseball/marlins/sfl-spmarlins02oct02,0,53398
69.story?coll=sfla-sports-marlins 
     + Girardi's status remains up in the air
 
http://florida.marlins.mlb.com/NASApp/mlb/news/article.jsp?ymd=20060930&content_
id=1691836&vkey=news_fla&fext=.jsp&c_id=fla 
     + Marlins walk off with season-finale win
 
http://florida.marlins.mlb.com/NASApp/mlb/news/gameday_recap.jsp?ymd=20061001&co
ntent_id=1693304&vkey=recap&fext=.jsp&c_id=fla 
     + BERARDINO: Clues key with Girardi
 
http://www.sun-sentinel.com/sports/baseball/marlins/sfl-mikeb02oct02,0,6575830.c
olumn?coll=sfla-sports-marlins 
     + An emotional finale for Marlins, Girardi
      http://www.miami.com/mld/miamiherald/sports/baseball/15657546.htm 

     PGA - WGC American Express Championship
 
http://www.europeantour.com/default.sps?pagegid=%7BAEFB93B0%2DEFF5%2D4C05%2DAB0F
%2DFD08D947D944%7D&infosid=3&eventid=2006078&reportid=53979 
     + Woods cruises to victory in the WGC - American Express Championship
 
http://www.europeantour.com/default.sps?pagegid=%7BECF87964%2DDF48%2D4851%2DBB50
%2D27C15CC10DEE%7D&redirectorid=tournament_page&infosid=3&eventid=2006078&report
id=54043 
     Luke Donald [Scorecard] Finished 6th at -11
      http://www.worldgolfchampionships.com/players/scorecard/291587/r473/2006 
     Official Scores and Prize Money
 
http://www.europeantour.com/default.sps?pagegid=%7BECF87964%2DDF48%2D4851%2DBB50
%2D27C15CC10DEE%7D&redirectorid=tournament_page&eventid=2006078&infosid=1 

     Nationwide Tour h Mark Christopher Charity Classic
      http://www.pgatour.com/tournaments/h046 
     Jess Daley
     Tom Johnson

   2006 Football Opponents

     10/14 Purdue Boilermakers [Family Weekend]
     Deluge of Irish delights: ND routs Purdue
 
http://chicagosports.chicagotribune.com/sports/college/notredame/cs-060930irish,
1,6752728.story?coll=cs-college-headlines 
     + Notre Dame rolls over Purdue
      http://www.suntimes.com/sports/colleges/79167,CST-SPT-nd01.article 

     10/21 Michigan State Spartans 11 AM [HC]
     10/28 @ Michigan Wolverines 11 AM ABC/ESPN
     Wolverines take back the Jug
      http://www.suntimes.com/sports/colleges/79263,CST-SPT-mich01.article 

     11/4 @ Iowa Hawkeyes
     11/11 Ohio State [Lasalle Bank Day]
     No. 1 Buckeyes ace road test
      http://www.suntimes.com/sports/colleges/79268,CST-SPT-osu01.article 
     + Top-ranked Buckeyes cruise to win at Iowa
      http://rss.cnn.com/%7Er/rss/si_ncaaf/%7E3/30360068/index.html 
     + Mandel: Easy does it
 
http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2006/writers/stewart_mandel/10/01/ohiostate.iow
a/index.html 

     11/18 Illinois Fighting Illini [Senior Day]
     Zook considers flag incident overzealous
 
http://chicagosports.chicagotribune.com/sports/college/cs-061001colfootillini,1,
3571485.htmlstory?coll=cs-college-headlines 
     + Stunner on road lifts Illini
 
http://chicagosports.chicagotribune.com/sports/college/illinois/cs-060930illinoi
s,1,3824375.story?coll=cs-college-headlines 
     + Defense, Juice really are big deals 
     http://www.suntimes.com/sports/colleges/79194,CST-SPT-illnt01.article 

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From thehaze at earthlink.net  Mon Oct  2 11:59:48 2006
From: thehaze at earthlink.net (Jim Bendat)
Date: Mon Oct  2 11:59:52 2006
Subject: [NU Sports] NU-Wisconsin game on ESPN 360
Message-ID: <45214584.9020403@earthlink.net>

Anyone know what ESPN 360 is?!  I assume it's internet only.  Do they 
charge?  Thanks, Jim B.

From jonathanwhodges at gmail.com  Mon Oct  2 12:03:06 2006
From: jonathanwhodges at gmail.com (Jonathan Hodges)
Date: Mon Oct  2 12:03:08 2006
Subject: [NU Sports] TV for Wisconsin Game
Message-ID: <fcb3ee270610021003m7e29513dla49c2bdaaafe5802@mail.gmail.com>

The Big Ten has announced the TV schedule for this week's games only
(10/07):

http://bigten.cstv.com/sports/m-footbl/spec-rel/082606aac.html

The Northwestern at Wisconsin game is listed as ESPN360.  Apparently this is
an internet-only TV feed that is available only if your ISP is a partner
(none of the big Chicago providers, Comcast and AT&T DSL, are on the list).
The game is also not on the list of games available on GamePlan this week
(which I would not mind purchasing if the game was on it).

Does anyone have details on how to get the game on TV/internet, or if it is
even possible?

Jonathan

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From johnl at mac.com  Mon Oct  2 13:39:26 2006
From: johnl at mac.com (John Labbe)
Date: Mon Oct  2 13:39:29 2006
Subject: [NU Sports] TV for Wisconsin Game
In-Reply-To: <fcb3ee270610021003m7e29513dla49c2bdaaafe5802@mail.gmail.com>
References: <fcb3ee270610021003m7e29513dla49c2bdaaafe5802@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <428768.1159814366220.JavaMail.johnl@mac.com>

FWIW, here's what Wikipedia has to say about ESPN360:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ESPN360

It sounds like some programming is available to all internet users regardless of ISP.  Does anyone know where to find a listing about that?

I also wonder whether there's a chance that the broadcast would be syndicated and shown on a local station in Madison and/or Chicago.

I think with the 12th game this year, and the fact that there will be 6 Big Ten games every week, we may start to be out of luck with some of these ESPN arrangements.  If we wind up on the U too much, I may have to do some more serious investigation of satellite TV and get rid of Comcast.  But this 360 business is truly for the birds.


 
On Monday, October 02, 2006, at 01:33PM, Jonathan Hodges <jonathanwhodges@gmail.com> wrote:

>The Big Ten has announced the TV schedule for this week's games only
>(10/07):
>
>http://bigten.cstv.com/sports/m-footbl/spec-rel/082606aac.html
>
>The Northwestern at Wisconsin game is listed as ESPN360.  Apparently this is
>an internet-only TV feed that is available only if your ISP is a partner
>(none of the big Chicago providers, Comcast and AT&T DSL, are on the list).
>The game is also not on the list of games available on GamePlan this week
>(which I would not mind purchasing if the game was on it).
>
>Does anyone have details on how to get the game on TV/internet, or if it is
>even possible?
>
>Jonathan
>
>-- 
>Jonathan W. Hodges
>829 Foster St Apt 401
>Evanston, IL  60201-3259
>(847) 736-2449
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From johnl at mac.com  Mon Oct  2 13:53:06 2006
From: johnl at mac.com (John Labbe)
Date: Mon Oct  2 13:53:18 2006
Subject: [NU Sports] TV for Wisconsin Game
In-Reply-To: <428768.1159814366220.JavaMail.johnl@mac.com>
References: <fcb3ee270610021003m7e29513dla49c2bdaaafe5802@mail.gmail.com>
	<428768.1159814366220.JavaMail.johnl@mac.com>
Message-ID: <7971404.1159815186364.JavaMail.johnl@mac.com>

It looks like the "all access" periods are not for certain programs but rather for certain promotional time periods.  I doubt this weekend, the middle football season, will be an "all access" period.  But the irony of it is that there's little reason to promote the service given that there's very little an individual user can do to get it.  Either your ISP subscribes to it or they don't.  Apparently, none of the major Chicago ISPs subscribe.

I don't really understand the logic behind this, but it seems to be the way it goes with ESPN lately.


On Monday, October 02, 2006, at 03:39PM, John Labbe <johnl@mac.com> wrote:

>FWIW, here's what Wikipedia has to say about ESPN360:
>
>http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ESPN360
>
>It sounds like some programming is available to all internet users regardless of ISP.  Does anyone know where to find a listing about that?
>
>I also wonder whether there's a chance that the broadcast would be syndicated and shown on a local station in Madison and/or Chicago.
>
>I think with the 12th game this year, and the fact that there will be 6 Big Ten games every week, we may start to be out of luck with some of these ESPN arrangements.  If we wind up on the U too much, I may have to do some more serious investigation of satellite TV and get rid of Comcast.  But this 360 business is truly for the birds.
>
>
> 
>On Monday, October 02, 2006, at 01:33PM, Jonathan Hodges <jonathanwhodges@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>>The Big Ten has announced the TV schedule for this week's games only
>>(10/07):
>>
>>http://bigten.cstv.com/sports/m-footbl/spec-rel/082606aac.html
>>
>>The Northwestern at Wisconsin game is listed as ESPN360.  Apparently this is
>>an internet-only TV feed that is available only if your ISP is a partner
>>(none of the big Chicago providers, Comcast and AT&T DSL, are on the list).
>>The game is also not on the list of games available on GamePlan this week
>>(which I would not mind purchasing if the game was on it).
>>
>>Does anyone have details on how to get the game on TV/internet, or if it is
>>even possible?
>>
>>Jonathan
>>
>>-- 
>>Jonathan W. Hodges
>>829 Foster St Apt 401
>>Evanston, IL  60201-3259
>>(847) 736-2449
>>jonathanwhodges@gmail.com
>>http://jhodges.org
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>>
>

From rstetson at capps-assoc.com  Mon Oct  2 14:20:28 2006
From: rstetson at capps-assoc.com (Roy Lamberton)
Date: Mon Oct  2 14:20:15 2006
Subject: [NU Sports] TV for Wisconsin Game
In-Reply-To: <fcb3ee270610021003m7e29513dla49c2bdaaafe5802@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <000601c6e657$d25d2220$6601a8c0@DAVIDXP>

I think we're seeing a battle here between ABC/ESPN and the big national ISPs.

ABC is trying to force ESPNU and ESPN360 down the throats of the service
providers along with the rights fees that accompany those services.

The ISPs and Cable companies are resisting adding services that only provide
marginal return.

The answer is the schools putting pressure on ABC/ESPN so that the games get
broadcast, but I think the Big 10 Network is the schools attempt to do that.

Anyway, it sounds like we'll all be listening to WGN this weekend.

rsl

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> -----Original Message-----
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> Sent: Monday, October 02, 2006 1:03 PM
> To: NU Sports Listserv
> Subject: [NU Sports] TV for Wisconsin Game
> 
> 
> The Big Ten has announced the TV schedule for this week's games only
> (10/07):
> 
> http://bigten.cstv.com/sports/m-footbl/spec-rel/082606aac.html
> 
> The Northwestern at Wisconsin game is listed as ESPN360.  
> Apparently this is an internet-only TV feed that is available 
> only if your ISP is a partner (none of the big Chicago 
> providers, Comcast and AT&T DSL, are on the list). The game 
> is also not on the list of games available on GamePlan this 
> week (which I would not mind purchasing if the game was on it).
> 
> Does anyone have details on how to get the game on 
> TV/internet, or if it is even possible?
> 
> Jonathan
> 
> -- 
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From jonathanwhodges at gmail.com  Mon Oct  2 14:45:30 2006
From: jonathanwhodges at gmail.com (Jonathan Hodges)
Date: Mon Oct  2 14:45:32 2006
Subject: [NU Sports] TV for Wisconsin Game
In-Reply-To: <000601c6e657$d25d2220$6601a8c0@DAVIDXP>
References: <fcb3ee270610021003m7e29513dla49c2bdaaafe5802@mail.gmail.com>
	<000601c6e657$d25d2220$6601a8c0@DAVIDXP>
Message-ID: <fcb3ee270610021245h352600c1v4630dc7f7f0c3b87@mail.gmail.com>

Refer to the NU game notes, found here:
http://graphics.fansonly.com/photos/schools/nw/sports/m-footbl/auto_pdf/nuwisconsinnotes2006.pdf

It states that the game will be on ESPN360 to a "worldwide internet
audience," which infers that any ISP will be able to access the game.  I
don't know if this is the case and it will probably require some
clarification.  Note that there is some pre-recorded ESPN360 content
available to anyone regardless of ISP (which I just tested).

Jonathan

On 10/2/06, Roy Lamberton <rstetson@capps-assoc.com> wrote:
>
> I think we're seeing a battle here between ABC/ESPN and the big national
> ISPs.
>
> ABC is trying to force ESPNU and ESPN360 down the throats of the service
> providers along with the rights fees that accompany those services.
>
> The ISPs and Cable companies are resisting adding services that only
> provide
> marginal return.
>
> The answer is the schools putting pressure on ABC/ESPN so that the games
> get
> broadcast, but I think the Big 10 Network is the schools attempt to do
> that.
>
> Anyway, it sounds like we'll all be listening to WGN this weekend.
>
> rsl
>
> ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
> Roy S. Lamberton - Senior Associate
> Computer Applications & Support Associates
> and Publisher of Purple Reign,
> The Scout.com Northwestern University Site
> (http://www.purplewildcats.com)
> AIM Handle: CoachRoy74
> ======== Go Cats -  Beat 'em All ===========
> "You have a Republic Madam --
>      If you can keep it" - Benjamin Franklin
> ============================================
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: nwu-sports-bounces@tssi.com
> > [mailto:nwu-sports-bounces@tssi.com] On Behalf Of Jonathan Hodges
> > Sent: Monday, October 02, 2006 1:03 PM
> > To: NU Sports Listserv
> > Subject: [NU Sports] TV for Wisconsin Game
> >
> >
> > The Big Ten has announced the TV schedule for this week's games only
> > (10/07):
> >
> > http://bigten.cstv.com/sports/m-footbl/spec-rel/082606aac.html
> >
> > The Northwestern at Wisconsin game is listed as ESPN360.
> > Apparently this is an internet-only TV feed that is available
> > only if your ISP is a partner (none of the big Chicago
> > providers, Comcast and AT&T DSL, are on the list). The game
> > is also not on the list of games available on GamePlan this
> > week (which I would not mind purchasing if the game was on it).
> >
> > Does anyone have details on how to get the game on
> > TV/internet, or if it is even possible?
> >
> > Jonathan
> >
> > --
> > Jonathan W. Hodges
> > 829 Foster St Apt 401
> > Evanston, IL  60201-3259
> > (847) 736-2449
> > jonathanwhodges@gmail.com
> > http://jhodges.org _______________________________________________
> > nwu-sports site list
> > nwu-sports@tssi.com
> > http://romaine.tssi.com/mailman/listinfo/nwu-sports
> >
>
>


-- 
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829 Foster St Apt 401
Evanston, IL  60201-3259
(847) 736-2449
jonathanwhodges@gmail.com
http://jhodges.org
From AJWDBW at aol.com  Mon Oct  2 14:56:12 2006
From: AJWDBW at aol.com (AJWDBW@aol.com)
Date: Mon Oct  2 14:56:17 2006
Subject: [NU Sports] TV for Wisconsin Game
Message-ID: <c6a.15f46fa.3252c8dc@aol.com>

I would venture a guess that as we become more competitive we  will appear 
more on the regular ESPN/ABC schedules.
 
Don Williams C55
From jonathanwhodges at gmail.com  Mon Oct  2 15:29:03 2006
From: jonathanwhodges at gmail.com (Jonathan Hodges)
Date: Mon Oct  2 15:29:03 2006
Subject: [NU Sports] TV for Wisconsin Game
In-Reply-To: <c6a.15f46fa.3252c8dc@aol.com>
References: <c6a.15f46fa.3252c8dc@aol.com>
Message-ID: <fcb3ee270610021329s150201c1lf5a0733c194828d7@mail.gmail.com>

Here's the info I got from NU concerning the game on ESPN360:

----
This is all that I know...

http://sports.espn.go.com/espntv/espnJump?showID=360

If you can click on on the "Launch ESPN360" and you get a screen that says
"launch video player," you should be fine.

-- 

Michael J. Wolf
Asst. AD for Media Services
Northwestern University
----

Jonathan

On 10/2/06, AJWDBW@aol.com <AJWDBW@aol.com> wrote:
>
>  I would venture a guess that as we become more competitive we
> will appear more on the regular ESPN/ABC schedules.
>
> Don Williams C55
>



-- 
Jonathan W. Hodges
829 Foster St Apt 401
Evanston, IL  60201-3259
(847) 736-2449
jonathanwhodges@gmail.com
http://jhodges.org
From rstetson at capps-assoc.com  Mon Oct  2 17:15:13 2006
From: rstetson at capps-assoc.com (Roy Lamberton)
Date: Mon Oct  2 17:15:00 2006
Subject: [NU Sports] TV for Wisconsin Game
In-Reply-To: <fcb3ee270610021329s150201c1lf5a0733c194828d7@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <000e01c6e670$3ba8c640$6601a8c0@DAVIDXP>

When I go to the link below, I get into an ESPN screen that has ESPN360 as one
of the program choices. When you click on that particular box, right now it's an
interview with donavan McNabb, a window pops up that says: "Sorry, you need
access to ESPN360 to view the selected content. Don't give up the fight! The
All-Access period for ESPN360 is over, but the battle with sports video
deficiency lasts a lifetime."

Click the "find out more" box, and you get another screen that asks you to help
them get wider access, and at the bottom is another click box, "I Want ESPN36-!"

These are the ISPs that currently have a deal with ESPN: Frontier
US Cable, Verizon, BELD, Charter LA, Charter Stl, Grande, Mediacom, MidHudson,
SMU
StarStream, MTC, Iowa Network Services, Conway, Liberty PR

If you have Verizon as your isp, you can get ESPN360.

If you have Comcast, one of the nation's top providers, you get nothing.

As I said, it's a P*ssing match between ABC/ESPN/Disney and Comcast over
coverage and rights fees.

I've been asking Comcast for ESPNU for two years now, but I'm still waiting. So
much for customer demand.

Does anyone know what the rights fees for ESPN360 are?

rsl


 

++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
Roy S. Lamberton - Senior Associate
Computer Applications & Support Associates
and Publisher of Purple Reign, 
The Scout.com Northwestern University Site
(http://www.purplewildcats.com)
AIM Handle: CoachRoy74
======== Go Cats -  Beat 'em All ===========
"You have a Republic Madam --
     If you can keep it" - Benjamin Franklin
============================================

> -----Original Message-----
> From: nwu-sports-bounces@tssi.com 
> [mailto:nwu-sports-bounces@tssi.com] On Behalf Of Jonathan Hodges
> Sent: Monday, October 02, 2006 4:29 PM
> To: nwu-sports@tssi.com
> Subject: Re: [NU Sports] TV for Wisconsin Game
> 
> 
> Here's the info I got from NU concerning the game on ESPN360:
> 
> ----
> This is all that I know...
> 
> http://sports.espn.go.com/espntv/espnJump?showID=360
> 
> If you can click on on the "Launch ESPN360" and you get a 
> screen that says "launch video player," you should be fine.
> 
> -- 
> 
> Michael J. Wolf
> Asst. AD for Media Services
> Northwestern University
> ----
> 
> Jonathan
> 
> On 10/2/06, AJWDBW@aol.com <AJWDBW@aol.com> wrote:
> >
> >  I would venture a guess that as we become more competitive we will 
> > appear more on the regular ESPN/ABC schedules.
> >
> > Don Williams C55
> >
> 
> 
> 
> -- 
> Jonathan W. Hodges
> 829 Foster St Apt 401
> Evanston, IL  60201-3259
> (847) 736-2449
> jonathanwhodges@gmail.com
> http://jhodges.org _______________________________________________
> nwu-sports site list
> nwu-sports@tssi.com 
> http://romaine.tssi.com/mailman/listinfo/nwu-sports
> 


From rstetson at capps-assoc.com  Mon Oct  2 17:21:29 2006
From: rstetson at capps-assoc.com (Roy Lamberton)
Date: Mon Oct  2 17:21:17 2006
Subject: [NU Sports] Cub's Baker gone,
	Girardi is supposed to be fired tomorrow....
Message-ID: <000f01c6e671$1bb2bf70$6601a8c0@DAVIDXP>

What timing. 

Maybe the Cubbies will actually have a "local boy" to run the team, one who
knows how to win with nothing.

rsl

++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
Roy S. Lamberton - Senior Associate
Computer Applications & Support Associates
and Publisher of Purple Reign, 
The Scout.com Northwestern University Site
(http://www.purplewildcats.com)
AIM Handle: CoachRoy74
======== Go Cats -  Beat 'em All ===========
"You have a Republic Madam --
     If you can keep it" - Benjamin Franklin
============================================

From Hakirsch at aol.com  Mon Oct  2 17:24:30 2006
From: Hakirsch at aol.com (Hakirsch@aol.com)
Date: Mon Oct  2 17:24:38 2006
Subject: [NU Sports] Cub's Baker gone,
	Girardi is supposed to be fired tomorrow....
Message-ID: <516.82b0db6.3252eb9e@aol.com>

In a message dated 10/2/2006 3:21:39 PM Pacific Daylight Time, 
rstetson@capps-assoc.com writes:

> What timing. 
> 
> Maybe the Cubbies will actually have a "local boy" to run the team, one who
> knows how to win with nothing.
> 
> rsl
> 

Hard to believe Joe won't be their next manager--maybe eventually wind up 
with the NYY--But what a job he did with the Fish

I just hope Dusty (ruin my pitchers' arms)   Baker doesn't wind up back with 
the Giants

Harry



Harry
From rstetson at capps-assoc.com  Mon Oct  2 21:56:11 2006
From: rstetson at capps-assoc.com (Roy Lamberton)
Date: Mon Oct  2 21:56:11 2006
Subject: [NU Sports] Cub's Baker gone,
	Girardi is supposed to be fired tomorrow....
In-Reply-To: <516.82b0db6.3252eb9e@aol.com>
Message-ID: <000401c6e697$7bc11760$6601a8c0@DAVIDXP>

The other guy is a coach somewhere....
 
but the fish also claimed Joe G. stressed out a couple of reliever's arms too
too.
 
 
rsl
 

++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
Roy S. Lamberton - Senior Associate
Computer Applications & Support Associates
and Publisher of Purple Reign,
The Scout.com Northwestern University Site
(http://www.purplewildcats.com <http://www.purplewildcats.com/> )
AIM Handle: CoachRoy74
======== Go Cats -  Beat 'em All ===========
"You have a Republic Madam --
     If you can keep it" - Benjamin Franklin
============================================ 

-----Original Message-----
From: Hakirsch@aol.com [mailto:Hakirsch@aol.com] 
Sent: Monday, October 02, 2006 6:25 PM
To: rstetson@capps-assoc.com; nwu-sports@tssi.com
Subject: Re: [NU Sports] Cub's Baker gone, Girardi is supposed to be fired
tomorrow....


In a message dated 10/2/2006 3:21:39 PM Pacific Daylight Time,
rstetson@capps-assoc.com writes:



What timing. 

Maybe the Cubbies will actually have a "local boy" to run the team, one who
knows how to win with nothing.

rsl




Hard to believe Joe won't be their next manager--maybe eventually wind up with
the NYY--But what a job he did with the Fish

I just hope Dusty (ruin my pitchers' arms)   Baker doesn't wind up back with the
Giants

Harry



Harry 

From johnadeg at bellatlantic.net  Mon Oct  2 22:50:10 2006
From: johnadeg at bellatlantic.net (John A. DeGroat)
Date: Mon Oct  2 22:50:33 2006
Subject: [NU Sports] TV for Wisconsin Game
In-Reply-To: <000e01c6e670$3ba8c640$6601a8c0@DAVIDXP>
References: <000e01c6e670$3ba8c640$6601a8c0@DAVIDXP>
Message-ID: <4521DDF2.8020803@bellatlantic.net>

Comcast is arguable the worst cable service going that is why e switched 
to a satellite service.  We could never get answers from Comcast on what 
football games they were showing, etc.  If the service went down for 
whatever reason, we could never expect any kind of a decent response.   
Maybe it's because I worked for a telco for many years I expect good 
service from a cable company, but the kind of lousy service like that we 
experienced from Comcast would have landed a telco in front of a PUC in 
real time.

John DeGroat

Roy Lamberton wrote:

>When I go to the link below, I get into an ESPN screen that has ESPN360 as one
>of the program choices. When you click on that particular box, right now it's an
>interview with donavan McNabb, a window pops up that says: "Sorry, you need
>access to ESPN360 to view the selected content. Don't give up the fight! The
>All-Access period for ESPN360 is over, but the battle with sports video
>deficiency lasts a lifetime."
>
>Click the "find out more" box, and you get another screen that asks you to help
>them get wider access, and at the bottom is another click box, "I Want ESPN36-!"
>
>These are the ISPs that currently have a deal with ESPN: Frontier
>US Cable, Verizon, BELD, Charter LA, Charter Stl, Grande, Mediacom, MidHudson,
>SMU
>StarStream, MTC, Iowa Network Services, Conway, Liberty PR
>
>If you have Verizon as your isp, you can get ESPN360.
>
>If you have Comcast, one of the nation's top providers, you get nothing.
>
>As I said, it's a P*ssing match between ABC/ESPN/Disney and Comcast over
>coverage and rights fees.
>
>I've been asking Comcast for ESPNU for two years now, but I'm still waiting. So
>much for customer demand.
>
>Does anyone know what the rights fees for ESPN360 are?
>
>rsl
>
>
> 
>
>++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
>Roy S. Lamberton - Senior Associate
>Computer Applications & Support Associates
>and Publisher of Purple Reign, 
>The Scout.com Northwestern University Site
>(http://www.purplewildcats.com)
>AIM Handle: CoachRoy74
>======== Go Cats -  Beat 'em All ===========
>"You have a Republic Madam --
>     If you can keep it" - Benjamin Franklin
>============================================
>
>  
>
>>-----Original Message-----
>>From: nwu-sports-bounces@tssi.com 
>>[mailto:nwu-sports-bounces@tssi.com] On Behalf Of Jonathan Hodges
>>Sent: Monday, October 02, 2006 4:29 PM
>>To: nwu-sports@tssi.com
>>Subject: Re: [NU Sports] TV for Wisconsin Game
>>
>>
>>Here's the info I got from NU concerning the game on ESPN360:
>>
>>----
>>This is all that I know...
>>
>>http://sports.espn.go.com/espntv/espnJump?showID=360
>>
>>If you can click on on the "Launch ESPN360" and you get a 
>>screen that says "launch video player," you should be fine.
>>
>>-- 
>>
>>Michael J. Wolf
>>Asst. AD for Media Services
>>Northwestern University
>>----
>>
>>Jonathan
>>
>>On 10/2/06, AJWDBW@aol.com <AJWDBW@aol.com> wrote:
>>    
>>
>>> I would venture a guess that as we become more competitive we will 
>>>appear more on the regular ESPN/ABC schedules.
>>>
>>>Don Williams C55
>>>
>>>      
>>>
>>
>>-- 
>>Jonathan W. Hodges
>>829 Foster St Apt 401
>>Evanston, IL  60201-3259
>>(847) 736-2449
>>jonathanwhodges@gmail.com
>>http://jhodges.org _______________________________________________
>>nwu-sports site list
>>nwu-sports@tssi.com 
>>http://romaine.tssi.com/mailman/listinfo/nwu-sports
>>
>>    
>>
>
>
>_______________________________________________
>nwu-sports site list
>nwu-sports@tssi.com
>http://romaine.tssi.com/mailman/listinfo/nwu-sports
>
>
>  
>
From jonathanwhodges at gmail.com  Tue Oct  3 05:55:40 2006
From: jonathanwhodges at gmail.com (Jonathan Hodges)
Date: Tue Oct  3 05:55:49 2006
Subject: [NU Sports] TV for Wisconsin Game
In-Reply-To: <000e01c6e670$3ba8c640$6601a8c0@DAVIDXP>
References: <fcb3ee270610021329s150201c1lf5a0733c194828d7@mail.gmail.com>
	<000e01c6e670$3ba8c640$6601a8c0@DAVIDXP>
Message-ID: <fcb3ee270610030355q65e3a03bh46844d429d60eec2@mail.gmail.com>

Coach -

Same response here when I try to access the ESPN360 content (although I can
access the other content in the ESPN player).  Looks like no video for the
game (unless anyone knows of an open proxy on the Verizon network).

Jonathan

On 10/2/06, Roy Lamberton <rstetson@capps-assoc.com> wrote:
>
> When I go to the link below, I get into an ESPN screen that has ESPN360 as
> one
> of the program choices. When you click on that particular box, right now
> it's an
> interview with donavan McNabb, a window pops up that says: "Sorry, you
> need
> access to ESPN360 to view the selected content. Don't give up the fight!
> The
> All-Access period for ESPN360 is over, but the battle with sports video
> deficiency lasts a lifetime."
>
> Click the "find out more" box, and you get another screen that asks you to
> help
> them get wider access, and at the bottom is another click box, "I Want
> ESPN36-!"
>
> These are the ISPs that currently have a deal with ESPN: Frontier
> US Cable, Verizon, BELD, Charter LA, Charter Stl, Grande, Mediacom,
> MidHudson,
> SMU
> StarStream, MTC, Iowa Network Services, Conway, Liberty PR
>
> If you have Verizon as your isp, you can get ESPN360.
>
> If you have Comcast, one of the nation's top providers, you get nothing.
>
> As I said, it's a P*ssing match between ABC/ESPN/Disney and Comcast over
> coverage and rights fees.
>
> I've been asking Comcast for ESPNU for two years now, but I'm still
> waiting. So
> much for customer demand.
>
> Does anyone know what the rights fees for ESPN360 are?
>
> rsl
>
>
>
>
> ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
> Roy S. Lamberton - Senior Associate
> Computer Applications & Support Associates
> and Publisher of Purple Reign,
> The Scout.com Northwestern University Site
> (http://www.purplewildcats.com)
> AIM Handle: CoachRoy74
> ======== Go Cats -  Beat 'em All ===========
> "You have a Republic Madam --
>      If you can keep it" - Benjamin Franklin
> ============================================
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: nwu-sports-bounces@tssi.com
> > [mailto:nwu-sports-bounces@tssi.com] On Behalf Of Jonathan Hodges
> > Sent: Monday, October 02, 2006 4:29 PM
> > To: nwu-sports@tssi.com
> > Subject: Re: [NU Sports] TV for Wisconsin Game
> >
> >
> > Here's the info I got from NU concerning the game on ESPN360:
> >
> > ----
> > This is all that I know...
> >
> > http://sports.espn.go.com/espntv/espnJump?showID=360
> >
> > If you can click on on the "Launch ESPN360" and you get a
> > screen that says "launch video player," you should be fine.
> >
> > --
> >
> > Michael J. Wolf
> > Asst. AD for Media Services
> > Northwestern University
> > ----
> >
> > Jonathan
> >
> > On 10/2/06, AJWDBW@aol.com <AJWDBW@aol.com> wrote:
> > >
> > >  I would venture a guess that as we become more competitive we will
> > > appear more on the regular ESPN/ABC schedules.
> > >
> > > Don Williams C55
> > >
> >
> >
> >
> > --
> > Jonathan W. Hodges
> > 829 Foster St Apt 401
> > Evanston, IL  60201-3259
> > (847) 736-2449
> > jonathanwhodges@gmail.com
> > http://jhodges.org _______________________________________________
> > nwu-sports site list
> > nwu-sports@tssi.com
> > http://romaine.tssi.com/mailman/listinfo/nwu-sports
> >
>
>


-- 
Jonathan W. Hodges
829 Foster St Apt 401
Evanston, IL  60201-3259
(847) 736-2449
jonathanwhodges@gmail.com
http://jhodges.org
From spiritu at northwestern.edu  Tue Oct  3 09:46:47 2006
From: spiritu at northwestern.edu (Jonathan Michael Hawkins)
Date: Tue Oct  3 09:47:04 2006
Subject: [NU Sports] TV for Wisconsin Game
In-Reply-To: <fcb3ee270610030355q65e3a03bh46844d429d60eec2@mail.gmail.com>
References: <fcb3ee270610021329s150201c1lf5a0733c194828d7@mail.gmail.com>
	<000e01c6e670$3ba8c640$6601a8c0@DAVIDXP>
	<fcb3ee270610030355q65e3a03bh46844d429d60eec2@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.64.0610030932420.27988@localhost>

This is brain-dead.  I get the stupid ESPN360 ISP pop-up as well, and I'm 
trying to access the page from the Northwestern on-campus network.  Is 
Northwestern University supposed to pay ESPN some fee for the "privilege" 
of using a crappy internet video feed to watch our own football team 
playing football this weekend?

I can see that old people who don't understand the internet might try to 
convince ISPs to pay for a service that ISP subscribers don't really want, 
but why restrict Universities?  Even an internet-ignorant old person (like 
those running ESPN) should be able to figure this out.

Jonathan

On Tue, 3 Oct 2006, Jonathan Hodges wrote:

> Coach -
>
> Same response here when I try to access the ESPN360 content (although I can
> access the other content in the ESPN player).  Looks like no video for the
> game (unless anyone knows of an open proxy on the Verizon network).
>
> Jonathan
>
> On 10/2/06, Roy Lamberton <rstetson@capps-assoc.com> wrote:
>> 
>> When I go to the link below, I get into an ESPN screen that has ESPN360 as
>> one
>> of the program choices. When you click on that particular box, right now
>> it's an
>> interview with donavan McNabb, a window pops up that says: "Sorry, you
>> need
>> access to ESPN360 to view the selected content. Don't give up the fight!
>> The
>> All-Access period for ESPN360 is over, but the battle with sports video
>> deficiency lasts a lifetime."
>> 
>> Click the "find out more" box, and you get another screen that asks you to
>> help
>> them get wider access, and at the bottom is another click box, "I Want
>> ESPN36-!"
>> 
>> These are the ISPs that currently have a deal with ESPN: Frontier
>> US Cable, Verizon, BELD, Charter LA, Charter Stl, Grande, Mediacom,
>> MidHudson,
>> SMU
>> StarStream, MTC, Iowa Network Services, Conway, Liberty PR
>> 
>> If you have Verizon as your isp, you can get ESPN360.
>> 
>> If you have Comcast, one of the nation's top providers, you get nothing.
>> 
>> As I said, it's a P*ssing match between ABC/ESPN/Disney and Comcast over
>> coverage and rights fees.
>> 
>> I've been asking Comcast for ESPNU for two years now, but I'm still
>> waiting. So
>> much for customer demand.
>> 
>> Does anyone know what the rights fees for ESPN360 are?
>> 
>> rsl
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
>> Roy S. Lamberton - Senior Associate
>> Computer Applications & Support Associates
>> and Publisher of Purple Reign,
>> The Scout.com Northwestern University Site
>> (http://www.purplewildcats.com)
>> AIM Handle: CoachRoy74
>> ======== Go Cats -  Beat 'em All ===========
>> "You have a Republic Madam --
>>      If you can keep it" - Benjamin Franklin
>> ============================================
>> 
>> > -----Original Message-----
>> > From: nwu-sports-bounces@tssi.com
>> > [mailto:nwu-sports-bounces@tssi.com] On Behalf Of Jonathan Hodges
>> > Sent: Monday, October 02, 2006 4:29 PM
>> > To: nwu-sports@tssi.com
>> > Subject: Re: [NU Sports] TV for Wisconsin Game
>> >
>> >
>> > Here's the info I got from NU concerning the game on ESPN360:
>> >
>> > ----
>> > This is all that I know...
>> >
>> > http://sports.espn.go.com/espntv/espnJump?showID=360
>> >
>> > If you can click on on the "Launch ESPN360" and you get a
>> > screen that says "launch video player," you should be fine.
>> >
>> > --
>> >
>> > Michael J. Wolf
>> > Asst. AD for Media Services
>> > Northwestern University
>> > ----
>> >
>> > Jonathan
>> >
>> > On 10/2/06, AJWDBW@aol.com <AJWDBW@aol.com> wrote:
>> > >
>> > >  I would venture a guess that as we become more competitive we will
>> > > appear more on the regular ESPN/ABC schedules.
>> > >
>> > > Don Williams C55
>> > >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > --
>> > Jonathan W. Hodges
>> > 829 Foster St Apt 401
>> > Evanston, IL  60201-3259
>> > (847) 736-2449
>> > jonathanwhodges@gmail.com
>> > http://jhodges.org _______________________________________________
>> > nwu-sports site list
>> > nwu-sports@tssi.com
>> > http://romaine.tssi.com/mailman/listinfo/nwu-sports
>> >
>> 
>> 
>
>
>

-- 
Jonathan Michael Hawkins
spiritu@northwestern.edu
Northwestern University
WCAS '03,  Law '09

From spiritu at northwestern.edu  Tue Oct  3 09:56:28 2006
From: spiritu at northwestern.edu (Jonathan Michael Hawkins)
Date: Tue Oct  3 09:56:56 2006
Subject: [NU Sports] TV for Wisconsin Game
In-Reply-To: <4521DDF2.8020803@bellatlantic.net>
References: <000e01c6e670$3ba8c640$6601a8c0@DAVIDXP>
	<4521DDF2.8020803@bellatlantic.net>
Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.64.0610030947240.27988@localhost>

There's really no good choice for cable inside Chicago city limits. 
Comcast and RCN are the only games in town for most areas of the city, and 
they're both atrocious as far as customer service goes.  Everything else 
seems to be okay, as long as you've got a signal.  God help you if the 
signal goes out.

I've officially switched from blaming Comcast and RCN for not carrying 
ESPNU to blaming those jackasses at ESPN.

I am now an ESPN/ABC Sports hater.  First their web site didn't work in 
Firefox for more than a year, now I find out they don't actually 
understand how the internet works (e.g., by trying to base access to their 
ESuckPN360 service on ISP).  They only show my beloved Wildcats on 
networks that they *know* nobody in Chicago gets.  Finally, they moved 
Monday Night Football to their ESuckPN channel from ABC and destroyed a 
modern American tradition.

Jonathan

On Mon, 2 Oct 2006, John A. DeGroat wrote:

> Comcast is arguable the worst cable service going that is why e switched to a 
> satellite service.  We could never get answers from Comcast on what football 
> games they were showing, etc.  If the service went down for whatever reason, 
> we could never expect any kind of a decent response.   Maybe it's because I 
> worked for a telco for many years I expect good service from a cable company, 
> but the kind of lousy service like that we experienced from Comcast would 
> have landed a telco in front of a PUC in real time.
>
> John DeGroat
>
> Roy Lamberton wrote:
>
>> When I go to the link below, I get into an ESPN screen that has ESPN360 as 
>> one
>> of the program choices. When you click on that particular box, right now 
>> it's an
>> interview with donavan McNabb, a window pops up that says: "Sorry, you need
>> access to ESPN360 to view the selected content. Don't give up the fight! 
>> The
>> All-Access period for ESPN360 is over, but the battle with sports video
>> deficiency lasts a lifetime."
>> 
>> Click the "find out more" box, and you get another screen that asks you to 
>> help
>> them get wider access, and at the bottom is another click box, "I Want 
>> ESPN36-!"
>> 
>> These are the ISPs that currently have a deal with ESPN: Frontier
>> US Cable, Verizon, BELD, Charter LA, Charter Stl, Grande, Mediacom, 
>> MidHudson,
>> SMU
>> StarStream, MTC, Iowa Network Services, Conway, Liberty PR
>> 
>> If you have Verizon as your isp, you can get ESPN360.
>> 
>> If you have Comcast, one of the nation's top providers, you get nothing.
>> 
>> As I said, it's a P*ssing match between ABC/ESPN/Disney and Comcast over
>> coverage and rights fees.
>> 
>> I've been asking Comcast for ESPNU for two years now, but I'm still 
>> waiting. So
>> much for customer demand.
>> 
>> Does anyone know what the rights fees for ESPN360 are?
>> 
>> rsl
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
>> Roy S. Lamberton - Senior Associate
>> Computer Applications & Support Associates
>> and Publisher of Purple Reign, The Scout.com Northwestern University Site
>> (http://www.purplewildcats.com)
>> AIM Handle: CoachRoy74
>> ======== Go Cats -  Beat 'em All ===========
>> "You have a Republic Madam --
>>     If you can keep it" - Benjamin Franklin
>> ============================================
>>
>> 
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: nwu-sports-bounces@tssi.com [mailto:nwu-sports-bounces@tssi.com] On 
>>> Behalf Of Jonathan Hodges
>>> Sent: Monday, October 02, 2006 4:29 PM
>>> To: nwu-sports@tssi.com
>>> Subject: Re: [NU Sports] TV for Wisconsin Game
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Here's the info I got from NU concerning the game on ESPN360:
>>> 
>>> ----
>>> This is all that I know...
>>> 
>>> http://sports.espn.go.com/espntv/espnJump?showID=360
>>> 
>>> If you can click on on the "Launch ESPN360" and you get a screen that says 
>>> "launch video player," you should be fine.
>>> 
>>> -- 
>>> 
>>> Michael J. Wolf
>>> Asst. AD for Media Services
>>> Northwestern University
>>> ----
>>> 
>>> Jonathan
>>> 
>>> On 10/2/06, AJWDBW@aol.com <AJWDBW@aol.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>>> I would venture a guess that as we become more competitive we will appear 
>>>> more on the regular ESPN/ABC schedules.
>>>> 
>>>> Don Williams C55
>>>>
>>>> 
>>> 
>>> -- 
>>> Jonathan W. Hodges
>>> 829 Foster St Apt 401
>>> Evanston, IL  60201-3259
>>> (847) 736-2449
>>> jonathanwhodges@gmail.com
>>> http://jhodges.org _______________________________________________
>>> nwu-sports site list
>>> nwu-sports@tssi.com http://romaine.tssi.com/mailman/listinfo/nwu-sports
>>>
>>> 
>> 
>> 
>> _______________________________________________
>> nwu-sports site list
>> nwu-sports@tssi.com
>> http://romaine.tssi.com/mailman/listinfo/nwu-sports
>> 
>>
>> 
> _______________________________________________
> nwu-sports site list
> nwu-sports@tssi.com
> http://romaine.tssi.com/mailman/listinfo/nwu-sports
>

-- 
Jonathan Michael Hawkins
spiritu@northwestern.edu
Northwestern University
WCAS '03,  Law '09

From AJWDBW at aol.com  Tue Oct  3 09:58:22 2006
From: AJWDBW at aol.com (AJWDBW@aol.com)
Date: Tue Oct  3 09:58:29 2006
Subject: [NU Sports] TV for Wisconsin Game
Message-ID: <54e.8300513.3253d48e@aol.com>

 
In a message dated 10/3/2006 9:48:39 A.M. Central Standard Time,  
spiritu@northwestern.edu writes:

I can  see that old people who don't understand the internet might try to  
convince ISPs to pay for a service that ISP subscribers don't really  want

Jonathan



Can I do that?
Don Williams C55
From jonathanwhodges at gmail.com  Tue Oct  3 10:02:51 2006
From: jonathanwhodges at gmail.com (Jonathan Hodges)
Date: Tue Oct  3 10:02:55 2006
Subject: [NU Sports] TV for Wisconsin Game
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.64.0610030932420.27988@localhost>
References: <fcb3ee270610021329s150201c1lf5a0733c194828d7@mail.gmail.com>
	<000e01c6e670$3ba8c640$6601a8c0@DAVIDXP>
	<fcb3ee270610030355q65e3a03bh46844d429d60eec2@mail.gmail.com>
	<Pine.LNX.4.64.0610030932420.27988@localhost>
Message-ID: <fcb3ee270610030802h37ca13d9s1cd4bc521abd987c@mail.gmail.com>

AND they don't even offer the game on ESPN's GamePlan even if you WANTED to
pay the $22 weekly fee to watch the game (which I would have shelled out if
it was available, along with most of you as well, probably).  Instead they
screen out who can watch their internet feed based on IP address - allowing
only those ISPs that pony up the opportunity to watch - and having nothing
to do with "supporting" the service since it can run over any broadband
connection.

Of course this is another way for ESPN to try to circumvent traditional TV
and get more $$$ even though they have already forced about 20 ESPN networks
down the throats of most people, whether they want them or not.

Jonathan (the other one)

On 10/3/06, Jonathan Michael Hawkins <spiritu@northwestern.edu> wrote:
>
> This is brain-dead.  I get the stupid ESPN360 ISP pop-up as well, and I'm
> trying to access the page from the Northwestern on-campus network.  Is
> Northwestern University supposed to pay ESPN some fee for the "privilege"
> of using a crappy internet video feed to watch our own football team
> playing football this weekend?
>
> I can see that old people who don't understand the internet might try to
> convince ISPs to pay for a service that ISP subscribers don't really want,
> but why restrict Universities?  Even an internet-ignorant old person (like
> those running ESPN) should be able to figure this out.
>
> Jonathan
>
> On Tue, 3 Oct 2006, Jonathan Hodges wrote:
>
> > Coach -
> >
> > Same response here when I try to access the ESPN360 content (although I
> can
> > access the other content in the ESPN player).  Looks like no video for
> the
> > game (unless anyone knows of an open proxy on the Verizon network).
> >
> > Jonathan
> >
> > On 10/2/06, Roy Lamberton <rstetson@capps-assoc.com> wrote:
> >>
> >> When I go to the link below, I get into an ESPN screen that has ESPN360
> as
> >> one
> >> of the program choices. When you click on that particular box, right
> now
> >> it's an
> >> interview with donavan McNabb, a window pops up that says: "Sorry, you
> >> need
> >> access to ESPN360 to view the selected content. Don't give up the
> fight!
> >> The
> >> All-Access period for ESPN360 is over, but the battle with sports video
> >> deficiency lasts a lifetime."
> >>
> >> Click the "find out more" box, and you get another screen that asks you
> to
> >> help
> >> them get wider access, and at the bottom is another click box, "I Want
> >> ESPN36-!"
> >>
> >> These are the ISPs that currently have a deal with ESPN: Frontier
> >> US Cable, Verizon, BELD, Charter LA, Charter Stl, Grande, Mediacom,
> >> MidHudson,
> >> SMU
> >> StarStream, MTC, Iowa Network Services, Conway, Liberty PR
> >>
> >> If you have Verizon as your isp, you can get ESPN360.
> >>
> >> If you have Comcast, one of the nation's top providers, you get
> nothing.
> >>
> >> As I said, it's a P*ssing match between ABC/ESPN/Disney and Comcast
> over
> >> coverage and rights fees.
> >>
> >> I've been asking Comcast for ESPNU for two years now, but I'm still
> >> waiting. So
> >> much for customer demand.
> >>
> >> Does anyone know what the rights fees for ESPN360 are?
> >>
> >> rsl
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
> >> Roy S. Lamberton - Senior Associate
> >> Computer Applications & Support Associates
> >> and Publisher of Purple Reign,
> >> The Scout.com Northwestern University Site
> >> (http://www.purplewildcats.com)
> >> AIM Handle: CoachRoy74
> >> ======== Go Cats -  Beat 'em All ===========
> >> "You have a Republic Madam --
> >>      If you can keep it" - Benjamin Franklin
> >> ============================================
> >>
> >> > -----Original Message-----
> >> > From: nwu-sports-bounces@tssi.com
> >> > [mailto:nwu-sports-bounces@tssi.com] On Behalf Of Jonathan Hodges
> >> > Sent: Monday, October 02, 2006 4:29 PM
> >> > To: nwu-sports@tssi.com
> >> > Subject: Re: [NU Sports] TV for Wisconsin Game
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > Here's the info I got from NU concerning the game on ESPN360:
> >> >
> >> > ----
> >> > This is all that I know...
> >> >
> >> > http://sports.espn.go.com/espntv/espnJump?showID=360
> >> >
> >> > If you can click on on the "Launch ESPN360" and you get a
> >> > screen that says "launch video player," you should be fine.
> >> >
> >> > --
> >> >
> >> > Michael J. Wolf
> >> > Asst. AD for Media Services
> >> > Northwestern University
> >> > ----
> >> >
> >> > Jonathan
> >> >
> >> > On 10/2/06, AJWDBW@aol.com <AJWDBW@aol.com> wrote:
> >> > >
> >> > >  I would venture a guess that as we become more competitive we will
> >> > > appear more on the regular ESPN/ABC schedules.
> >> > >
> >> > > Don Williams C55
> >> > >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > --
> >> > Jonathan W. Hodges
> >> > 829 Foster St Apt 401
> >> > Evanston, IL  60201-3259
> >> > (847) 736-2449
> >> > jonathanwhodges@gmail.com
> >> > http://jhodges.org _______________________________________________
> >> > nwu-sports site list
> >> > nwu-sports@tssi.com
> >> > http://romaine.tssi.com/mailman/listinfo/nwu-sports
> >> >
> >>
> >>
> >
> >
> >
>
> --
> Jonathan Michael Hawkins
> spiritu@northwestern.edu
> Northwestern University
> WCAS '03,  Law '09
>
> _______________________________________________
> nwu-sports site list
> nwu-sports@tssi.com
> http://romaine.tssi.com/mailman/listinfo/nwu-sports
>



-- 
Jonathan W. Hodges
829 Foster St Apt 401
Evanston, IL  60201-3259
(847) 736-2449
jonathanwhodges@gmail.com
http://jhodges.org
From rstetson at capps-assoc.com  Tue Oct  3 10:21:10 2006
From: rstetson at capps-assoc.com (Roy Lamberton)
Date: Tue Oct  3 10:21:26 2006
Subject: [NU Sports] Marlins fire Girardi
Message-ID: <000f01c6e6ff$8f293810$6601a8c0@DAVIDXP>

Surprise, right?

Not really, especially after you read all the stuff in the Chicago papers about
who follows Dusty Baker.

I wonder if Joe G is already on his way to the airport?

Anyway, the stories will be in the News Digest, which I am presently building.

rsl

++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
Roy S. Lamberton - Senior Associate
Computer Applications & Support Associates
and Publisher of Purple Reign, 
The Scout.com Northwestern University Site
(http://www.purplewildcats.com)
AIM Handle: CoachRoy74
======== Go Cats -  Beat 'em All ===========
"You have a Republic Madam --
     If you can keep it" - Benjamin Franklin
============================================

From jeffb at hilgraeve.com  Tue Oct  3 11:24:09 2006
From: jeffb at hilgraeve.com (Jeff Beamsley)
Date: Tue Oct  3 11:24:16 2006
Subject: [NU Sports] TV for Wisconsin Game
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.64.0610030932420.27988@localhost>
Message-ID: <03bb01c6e708$5aa2c850$97492745@hilgraeve.com>

 
Jonathan wrote <snip>

I can see that old people who don't understand the internet might try to
convince ISPs to pay for a service that ISP subscribers don't really want,
but why restrict Universities?  Even an internet-ignorant old person (like
those running ESPN) should be able to figure this out.

====================

I resemble that remark.

Jeff 

Tech '72


From clzahn at mindspring.com  Tue Oct  3 11:44:10 2006
From: clzahn at mindspring.com (Clark Zahn)
Date: Tue Oct  3 11:44:58 2006
Subject: [NU Sports] TV for Wisconsin Game
Message-ID: <26067172.1159893850913.JavaMail.root@mswamui-backed.atl.sa.earthlink.net>



-----Original Message-----
>From: Jeff Beamsley <jeffb@hilgraeve.com>
>Sent: Oct 3, 2006 9:24 AM
>To: nwu-sports@tssi.com
>Subject: RE: [NU Sports] TV for Wisconsin Game
>
> 
>Jonathan wrote <snip>
>
>I can see that old people who don't understand the internet might try to
>convince ISPs to pay for a service that ISP subscribers don't really want,
>but why restrict Universities?  Even an internet-ignorant old person (like
>those running ESPN) should be able to figure this out.
>
>====================
>
>I resemble that remark.
>
>Jeff 
>
>Tech '72
>


Me too

Clark

Tech '68


From spiritu at northwestern.edu  Tue Oct  3 11:53:18 2006
From: spiritu at northwestern.edu (Jonathan Michael Hawkins)
Date: Tue Oct  3 11:53:23 2006
Subject: [NU Sports] TV for Wisconsin Game
In-Reply-To: <54e.8300513.3253d48e@aol.com>
References: <54e.8300513.3253d48e@aol.com>
Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.64.0610031138520.28405@localhost>

>> I can see that old people who don't understand the internet might try

> Can I do that?
> Don Williams C55

I think that simply by posting on this list you demonstrate that you, an 
individual of presumably superior age, understand the internet - at least 
to the extent that your understanding vastly surpasses that of someone who 
would try to tie a subscription service to an ISP.  My comment would've 
meant something dramatically different had I written this: "old people, 
who don't understand the internet, might try...".  I hope no one read my 
comment in this way - I apologise for not being more clear.

I was referring specifically to the subset of those over 35 who don't 
understand the internet.  This type of individual, with vast personal 
wealth or a position of leadership in a business, and the opportunity to 
make an internet-related business decision, generally makes decisions 
which carry negative consequences for their monetary interests or those of 
their company.  Savvy CEOs will screen out these types so that bad 
business decisions regarding the internet are avoided.  It is important 
that decision makers understand the cultural and technical realities 
underlying the internet.  ESPN clearly does not.

In this case, what's important for ESPN to realize is that the Internet is 
not a cable company.  Yet that's the model ESPN is attempting with 
ESPN360.  That ESPN is even trying this indicates that the executives who 
hatched this brain-dead plan fail to possess even a cursory knowledge of 
how the Internet works to bring information of all forms to a user.

Jonathan

-- 
Jonathan Michael Hawkins
spiritu@northwestern.edu
Northwestern University
WCAS '03,  Law '09

From rstetson at capps-assoc.com  Tue Oct  3 12:14:04 2006
From: rstetson at capps-assoc.com (Roy Lamberton)
Date: Tue Oct  3 12:13:55 2006
Subject: [NU Sports] TV for Wisconsin Game
In-Reply-To: <54e.8300513.3253d48e@aol.com>
Message-ID: <001101c6e70f$541250d0$6601a8c0@DAVIDXP>

The concept of pay per view is a well established one in broadcasting, and
cable/internet video was supposed to open the door to allowing folks to watch
whatever they wanted.

I find it interesting that the radio talk show guys all have internet
subscription services where you can not only listen but watch - imagine someone
paying to watch a radio show....shades of the folks who stand outside WGN's
downtown studio and watch Spike...but I digress

If you have internet over your cell phone thru Verizon you might be able to
watch the game on your phone. I'm exploring the software that allows this since
I will be driving down to Greensboro during the game and would find it a trip if
I could watch NU-Wisconsin from I-95

I'll let you folks know what happens.

rsl

++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
Roy S. Lamberton - Senior Associate
Computer Applications & Support Associates
and Publisher of Purple Reign, 
The Scout.com Northwestern University Site
(http://www.purplewildcats.com)
AIM Handle: CoachRoy74
======== Go Cats -  Beat 'em All ===========
"You have a Republic Madam --
     If you can keep it" - Benjamin Franklin
============================================

> -----Original Message-----
> From: nwu-sports-bounces@tssi.com 
> [mailto:nwu-sports-bounces@tssi.com] On Behalf Of AJWDBW@aol.com
> Sent: Tuesday, October 03, 2006 10:58 AM
> To: spiritu@northwestern.edu; nwu-sports@tssi.com; 
> askespntv@espn.com; mwolf@northwestern.edu
> Subject: Re: [NU Sports] TV for Wisconsin Game
> 
> 
>  
> In a message dated 10/3/2006 9:48:39 A.M. Central Standard Time,  
> spiritu@northwestern.edu writes:
> 
> I can  see that old people who don't understand the internet 
> might try to  
> convince ISPs to pay for a service that ISP subscribers don't 
> really  want
> 
> Jonathan
> 
> 
> 
> Can I do that?
> Don Williams C55 _______________________________________________
> nwu-sports site list
> nwu-sports@tssi.com 
> http://romaine.tssi.com/mailman/listinfo/nwu-sports
> 


From rstetson at capps-assoc.com  Tue Oct  3 12:24:35 2006
From: rstetson at capps-assoc.com (Roy Lamberton)
Date: Tue Oct  3 12:24:40 2006
Subject: [NU Sports] TV for Wisconsin Game
In-Reply-To: <26067172.1159893850913.JavaMail.root@mswamui-backed.atl.sa.earthlink.net>
Message-ID: <001801c6e710$cc405920$6601a8c0@DAVIDXP>

I am also in this group, but part of my business is involved with internet
stuff, not to mention my work with Fox/Scout.

The people at Comcast don't have a clue when you call them either, and they're
supposed to be "experts."

rsl

++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
Roy S. Lamberton - Senior Associate
Computer Applications & Support Associates
and Publisher of Purple Reign, 
The Scout.com Northwestern University Site
(http://www.purplewildcats.com)
AIM Handle: CoachRoy74
======== Go Cats -  Beat 'em All ===========
"You have a Republic Madam --
     If you can keep it" - Benjamin Franklin
============================================

> -----Original Message-----
> From: nwu-sports-bounces@tssi.com 
> [mailto:nwu-sports-bounces@tssi.com] On Behalf Of Clark Zahn
> Sent: Tuesday, October 03, 2006 12:44 PM
> To: nwu-sports@tssi.com
> Subject: RE: [NU Sports] TV for Wisconsin Game
> 
> 
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> >From: Jeff Beamsley <jeffb@hilgraeve.com>
> >Sent: Oct 3, 2006 9:24 AM
> >To: nwu-sports@tssi.com
> >Subject: RE: [NU Sports] TV for Wisconsin Game
> >
> > 
> >Jonathan wrote <snip>
> >
> >I can see that old people who don't understand the internet 
> might try 
> >to convince ISPs to pay for a service that ISP subscribers 
> don't really 
> >want, but why restrict Universities?  Even an internet-ignorant old 
> >person (like those running ESPN) should be able to figure this out.
> >
> >====================
> >
> >I resemble that remark.
> >
> >Jeff
> >
> >Tech '72
> >
> 
> 
> Me too
> 
> Clark
> 
> Tech '68
> 
> 
> _______________________________________________
> nwu-sports site list
> nwu-sports@tssi.com 
> http://romaine.tssi.com/mailman/listinfo/nwu-sports
> 

From rstetson at capps-assoc.com  Tue Oct  3 12:07:49 2006
From: rstetson at capps-assoc.com (Roy Lamberton)
Date: Tue Oct  3 12:35:18 2006
Subject: [NU Sports] NU Sports News Digest for 10/3
Message-ID: <001001c6e70e$76579ed0$6601a8c0@DAVIDXP>

www.PurpleWildcats.com
for Purple Reign & the NU Sports List

Violent weather in Evanston changes some of Northwestern sports coverage, but NU
still getting ready for the Badgers. On the Alumni front, one baseball alum
looking for a new job, but at the top of the list for 
another.

             All the News that Fits We Link
            Your Index to on-line News about
            Northwestern University Athletics

FOOTBALL

     Wildcats, Badgers Meet Saturday in Madison
      http://nusports.cstv.com/sports/m-footbl/spec-rel/100206aaa.html 
     + NU Football Game Notes (vs. Wisconsin)
 
http://www.collegesports.com/auto_pdf/p_hotos/s_chools/nw/sports/m-footbl/auto_p
df/nuwisconsinnotes2006 
     + Sluggish offense in search of spark
 
http://chicagosports.chicagotribune.com/sports/college/cs-061001colfootnu,1,2225
004.htmlstory?coll=cs-college-headlines 
     + Northwestern coach tries to be patient during search
      http://www.suntimes.com/sports/colleges/81187,CST-SPT-nu03.article 
     + Northwestern still seeking clear answer at quarterback
      http://www.dailyherald.com/sports/northwestern.asp?id=234326 
     + Northwestern coach noncommittal about starting quarterback job
      http://www.fortwayne.com/mld/newssentinel/sports/15662821.htm 
     + NU's Brewer 'excited' for contest, but first start not so sweet
 
http://sports.yahoo.com/ncaaf/news;_ylt=AnohhHdf.dTpdvu5HEJmnWC81LYF?slug=uwire-
nusbrewerexcitedforcontest&prov=uwire&type=lgns 
     + Mike Lucas: Fitzgerald, Wildcats tackle life-and-death issues
      http://www.madison.com/tct/sports/lucas/index.php?ntid=101202 
     + Scouting report: The book on Northwestern
      http://www.jsonline.com/story/index.aspx?id=507335 
     + Severe growing pains
      http://www.jsonline.com/story/index.aspx?id=507336 

     After PSU: Monday 2-Deep and Injuries
      http://northwestern.scout.com/2/575300.html 

     Next up for the Cats:
     10/7@ Wisconsin Badgers
     Bielema Addresses Media Monday
 
http://www.uwbadgers.com/sport_news/fb/headlines/story.html?sportid=111&storyid=
9275 
     + Centering the Ball - with Derek Engler Part 1
      http://wisconsin.scout.com/2/575284.html 
     + John Stocco is the Big Ten Player of Week
      http://wisconsin.scout.com/2/574937.html 
     + Stocco claims Big Ten award
      http://badgerherald.com/sports/2006/10/03/stocco_claims_big_te.php 
     + Stocco's performance praised
      http://www.dailycardinal.com/sports/stocco-s-performance-praised.html 
     + Bielema expects Badgers to be better
      http://nbc15.madison.com/sports/headlines/4291172.html 
     +Line making steady progress
      http://www.jsonline.com/story/index.aspx?id=507343 

     Big 10
     Wolverines: Michigan St. always dangerous
      http://rss.cnn.com/%7Er/rss/si_ncaaf/%7E3/31493668/index.html 
     Illinois' Reda, Purdue's Spencer and Wisconsin's Stocco Named Big Ten
Football Players of the Week
      http://bigten.cstv.com/sports/m-footbl/spec-rel/100206aaa.html 
     Big Ten Weekly Football Release - Oct. 2
      http://bigten.cstv.com/sports/m-footbl/spec-rel/100206aad.html 

RECRUITING

     Peters Picks Irish
      http://story.scout.com/a.z?s=179&p=2&c=575196 
     Boyer Enjoys UConn Visit
      http://story.scout.com/a.z?s=179&p=2&c=575193 

SWIMMING

     Three Wildcat Student-Athletes, Two Coaches to Participate in 2007 World
University Games
      http://nusports.cstv.com/sports/m-swim/spec-rel/100206aaa.html 

TENNIS

     Willy Lock Advances to Second Round in All-American Championships
Qualifying Draw
      http://nusports.cstv.com/sports/m-tennis/spec-rel/100206aab.html 

VOLLEYBALL

     Big Ten's Depth Unmatched in Conference History
      http://bigten.cstv.com/sports/w-volley/spec-rel/100206aab.html 

MISCELLANY

     The Daily is very limited in coverage, but no premeds were hurt
     Storm Floods Library, Dorms
 
http://www.dailynorthwestern.com/news/2006/10/03/Campus/Storm.Floods.Library.Dor
ms-2328152.shtml 

     Rowing
     Women's Rowing Sweeps Northwestern, falls To Wash U
      http://www.northpark.edu/athletics/news/story.cfm?ID=1606 

Alumni

     Is he headed back to Chicago?
     Joe Girardi Marlins fire manager Joe Girardi
 
http://www.sun-sentinel.com/sports/baseball/marlins/sfl-103girardi,0,6386137.sto
ry?coll=sfla-sports-marlins 
     + Marlins dismiss Girardi; Gonzalez expected
 
http://florida.marlins.mlb.com/NASApp/mlb/news/article.jsp?ymd=20061003&content_
id=1696581&vkey=news_fla&fext=.jsp&c_id=fla 
     + Marlins Fire Girardi After Rift With Owner
      http://chicago.comcastsportsnet.com/view_content.asp?ID=38016 
     + Source: Gonzalez is Marlins' top choice
 
http://www.sun-sentinel.com/sports/baseball/marlins/sfl-fredi03oct03,0,7165658.s
tory?coll=sfla-sports-marlins 
     + Girardi's dismissal looms
 
http://www.chicagotribune.com/sports/baseball/cubs/cs-061002cubsgirardi,1,257002
6.story?coll=chi-sportstop-hed 
     + Cubs, Baker part ways
 
http://www.chicagotribune.com/sports/baseball/cubs/cs-061002cubsbaker,1,5751332.
story?coll=chi-sportstop-hed 
     + Search begins for new manager
 
http://www.chicagotribune.com/sports/baseball/cubs/cs-061002cubscandidates,1,513
5103.story?coll=chi-sportstop-hed 
     + Hendry wants to hire manager soon
 
http://www.chicagotribune.com/sports/baseball/cubs/cs-061002cubshendry,1,7013818
.story?coll=chi-sportstop-hed 

     Luis Castillo Castillo still forcing the action
      http://story.scout.com/a.z?s=179&p=2&c=575179 
     + Defense gives reason to believe
      http://www.chargers.com/news/headlines/defense-gives-reason.htm 

     PGA -
     Luke Donald  Complete Money Leaders
      http://www.pgatour.com/stats/leaders/r/2006/109 

     Nationwide Tour h Mark Christopher Charity Classic
      http://www.pgatour.com/tournaments/h046 
     Jess Daley - Scheduled
     Tom Johnson - Scheduled

   2006 Football Opponents

     10/14 Purdue Boilermakers [Family Weekend]
     10/21 Michigan State Spartans 11 AM [HC]
     10/28 @ Michigan Wolverines 11 AM ABC/ESPN
     11/4 @ Iowa Hawkeyes
     Fake tickets kept 400 fans from OSU-Iowa
      http://rss.cnn.com/%7Er/rss/si_ncaaf/%7E3/31333081/index.html 
     11/11 Ohio State [Lasalle Bank Day]
     11/18 Illinois Fighting Illini [Senior Day]
     Illini suspend McBride
 
http://chicagosports.chicagotribune.com/sports/college/cs-061002illinimcbride,1,
4624631.story?coll=cs-college-headlines 

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From AJWDBW at aol.com  Tue Oct  3 12:50:46 2006
From: AJWDBW at aol.com (AJWDBW@aol.com)
Date: Tue Oct  3 12:51:59 2006
Subject: [NU Sports] TV for Wisconsin Game
Message-ID: <53a.287bba0d.3253fcf6@aol.com>

 
In a message dated 10/3/2006 11:54:43 A.M. Central Standard Time,  
spiritu@northwestern.edu writes:

I hope  no one read my 
comment in this way - I apologise for not being more  clear.



Please, no apology necessary. I understood your meaning  perfectly. Mine was 
a comment made with my tongue in my cheek.
 
Don Williams
C55
From tkmaycock at yahoo.com  Tue Oct  3 13:09:44 2006
From: tkmaycock at yahoo.com (Tom Maycock)
Date: Tue Oct  3 13:09:45 2006
Subject: [NU Sports] TV for Wisconsin Game
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.64.0610031138520.28405@localhost>
Message-ID: <20061003180944.41996.qmail@web33108.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

> I was referring specifically to the subset of those over 35 who don't
> understand the internet.  

Just FYI--by the time you are my age (38), you definitely won't
consider "35" to be old. Trust me on that. 

Hmm, let's see, I must have been using CompuServe about the time you
were born. Maybe I am old after all....

Tom

From jeffb at hilgraeve.com  Tue Oct  3 13:31:38 2006
From: jeffb at hilgraeve.com (Jeff Beamsley)
Date: Tue Oct  3 13:31:45 2006
Subject: [NU Sports] TV for Wisconsin Game
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.64.0610031138520.28405@localhost>
Message-ID: <045701c6e71a$2a9631d0$97492745@hilgraeve.com>

Jonathan wrote <snip>

I was referring specifically to the subset of those over 35 who don't
understand the internet.  This type of individual, with vast personal wealth
or a position of leadership in a business, and the opportunity to make an
internet-related business decision, generally makes decisions which carry
negative consequences for their monetary interests or those of their
company.  Savvy CEOs will screen out these types so that bad business
decisions regarding the internet are avoided.  It is important that decision
makers understand the cultural and technical realities underlying the
internet.  ESPN clearly does not.

==============================

Might be better to just put down the shovel and walk away. <g>

What about the subset of those under 35 who underestimate the wisdom and
experience of those who (for goodness sake) built the darn Internet for you
young pups?

At least the horizon of youth has extended from 30 (when we were younger
than that) to 35.  I suppose that is progress.

If I knew at 26 what I know now at 56, I wouldn't have made as many
mistakes.  But then what I know now at 56 is the result of all of the
mistakes that I made (and survived) as a younger man.

So on second thought, you can have the shovel back.  Dig away.  Your
youthful myopia will someday produce a wiser man.  

Jeff

From tbng at comcast.net  Tue Oct  3 15:42:30 2006
From: tbng at comcast.net (Dennis W. Brandt)
Date: Tue Oct  3 15:42:38 2006
Subject: [NU Sports] TV for Wisconsin Game
References: <045701c6e71a$2a9631d0$97492745@hilgraeve.com>
Message-ID: <004101c6e72c$72014160$c402a8c0@DennisMachine>

There is always somebody out there who just has to, just must not let the 
day go by without finding someway, somehow to get his feelings hurt over 
nothing.  Whenever that happens, the words "grow up" always come immediately 
to my mind.  Jonathan, you said nothing that required an apology. 

From johnl at mac.com  Tue Oct  3 15:48:02 2006
From: johnl at mac.com (John Labbe)
Date: Tue Oct  3 15:48:08 2006
Subject: [NU Sports] TV for Wisconsin Game
In-Reply-To: <045701c6e71a$2a9631d0$97492745@hilgraeve.com>
References: <045701c6e71a$2a9631d0$97492745@hilgraeve.com>
Message-ID: <4728057.1159908482968.JavaMail.johnl@mac.com>

You can check out the Wisconsin spin and "don't blame us" explanation of the ESPN360 situation at the following link.  I think with this, it's clear that there won't be any other broadcasts.  However, if you want to see the game 11.5 hours later, tune your satelite dish to Wisconsin Public TV at 10:30 pm on Saturday!

http://www.uwbadgers.com/sport_news/fb/headlines/story.html?sportid=111&storyid=9284

From clzahn at mindspring.com  Tue Oct  3 17:10:08 2006
From: clzahn at mindspring.com (Clark Zahn)
Date: Tue Oct  3 17:10:12 2006
Subject: [NU Sports] TV for Wisconsin Game
Message-ID: <15485927.1159913409218.JavaMail.root@mswamui-andean.atl.sa.earthlink.net>



-----Original Message-----
>From: John Labbe <johnl@mac.com>
>Sent: Oct 3, 2006 1:48 PM
>To: nwu-sports@tssi.com
>Subject: RE: [NU Sports] TV for Wisconsin Game
>
>You can check out the Wisconsin spin and "don't blame us" explanation of the ESPN360 situation at the following link.  I think with this, it's clear that there won't be any other broadcasts.  However, if you want to see the game 11.5 hours later, tune your satelite dish to Wisconsin Public TV at 10:30 pm on Saturday!
>


A list member who has access to that broadcast could copy it in case someone absolutely has to see the video.  If we win that might be a long list, otherwise only parents and diehards might want to see it.

Clark



From jthiegs at goldengate.net  Tue Oct  3 18:44:21 2006
From: jthiegs at goldengate.net (Joe Thiegs)
Date: Tue Oct  3 18:44:18 2006
Subject: [NU Sports] Uh-oh
In-Reply-To: <000901c6dd98$512c67f0$fb326580@mnfound.umn.edu>
References: <000901c6dd98$512c67f0$fb326580@mnfound.umn.edu>
Message-ID: <4522F5D5.2010606@goldengate.net>

Just saw this:

The next time your daughter brings home a new boyfriend, be sure to ask 
his middle name (Freakonomics blog)
http://www.freakonomics.com/blog/2006/09/28/the-next-time-your-daughter-brings-home-a-new-boyfriend-be-sure-to-ask-his-middle-name/

-Joe

Joe Thiegs wrote:
> Congratulations to Pat and Stacy Fitzgerald and their first son, Jack, on
> the birth of their newest child/little brother, Ryan Wayne Fitzgerald!
> Vital stats:  8 lbs., 7 oz.; 21-1/2 inches; born yesterday (9/20/2006).
> Best wishes to all.
>
>  
>
> Unfortunately this almost certainly means that our head coach will be
> heading into this game on virtually zero sleep, but maybe that will be
> offset by the inspiration factor.
>
>  
>
> -Joe
>
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From sjtruog at yahoo.com  Wed Oct  4 01:51:40 2006
From: sjtruog at yahoo.com (SjT (Stephen J. Truog))
Date: Wed Oct  4 01:51:45 2006
Subject: [NU Sports] PIGSKIN PICKS - Week 6
Message-ID: <20061004065140.25207.qmail@web52903.mail.yahoo.com>

Another week, another set of big SEC games, a Pac 10
showdown and some intriguing Big Ten matchups. All
picks due by kickoff Saturday ...

PIGSKIN PICKS - WEEK 6
######################
Name: 

BIG TEN
=======
Game  1: Indiana @ Illinois
Winner: 

Game  2: Purdue @ Iowa
Winner: 

Game  3: Michigan State @ Michigan
Winner: 

Game  4: Penn State @ Minnesota
Winner: 

Game  5: Bowling Green @ Ohio State
Winner: 

NATIONAL
========
Game  6: LSU @ Florida
Winner: 

Game  7: Tennessee @ Georgia
Winner: 

Game  8: Arkansas @ Auburn
Winner: 

Game  9: Oregon @ California
Winner: 

Game 10: Oklahoma vs. Texas (@ Dallas, TX)
Winner: 

MY PICKS
========
* ILLINOIS 27, Indiana 17
C: Break up the Illini!!!

* IOWA 20, Purdue 17
C: The Hawkeyes fall behind early with a hangover from
the prime-time egg they laid against the Buckeyes, but
they wake up in time to salvage the win.

* MICHIGAN 45, Michigan State 14
C: Usually this is a good game, but the Spartans are
falling apart while the Wolverines are more focused
than they've been since 1997. That spells blowout.

* PENN STATE 26, Minnesota 21
C: Good game here as the Nits could be looking forward
to the Michigan payback game and Minny's ground game
is strong in the Dome. But I think PSU has enough to
win this road test with some deep passes.

* OHIO STATE 28, Bowling Green 6
C: The scariest thing is that this young defense will
only get better as the year goes on. Number one rolls.

* LSU 17, Florida 13
C: Game of the week, and I'm not sold on Florida as a
title threat yet. LSU has the D and hangs on to a lead
late in the Swamp.

* TENNESSEE 24, Georgia 20
C: The Bulldogs have escaped defeat the past two
weeks, but the third time isn't a charm as they are
exposed by the not-yet-quite-legit Vols in Athens.

* AUBURN 23, Arkansas 3
C: The Tigers rebound at home from the Gamecock scare
and win solidly for the voters watching on TV.

* OREGON 37, California 33
C: Good game in the Pac 10 with the winner a
respectable darkhorse that could shock USC even though
that game will be in the Coliseum. The Bears have
rebounded nicely from the early loss, but the Ducks
really have taken to the spread and win a shootout.

* OKLAHOMA 14, Texas 10
C: For once, both of these teams are coming in with
one loss and not a real risk for the title game with
mostly cupcake schedules after this ... but the game
still means something. Can Mack beat Stoops without
Vince? Texas probably has the better talent, but OU
has the better single player (Petersen) and coach and
I'll go with that in a small upset.

And off the board ...

* WISCONSIN 38, Northwestern 10
C: The Badgers are really starting to grow under their
new coach with the offense catching up to the defense,
while the Cats still have growing pains from the new
quarterback. They'll get in sync in time, but not in
Camp Randall's hostile environment.

Remember, picks in by Saturday kickoff!
GO CATS!!!
-SjT


* * * * * * * * *
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sjtruog@yahoo.com
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From bwdolphin146 at yahoo.com  Wed Oct  4 03:21:09 2006
From: bwdolphin146 at yahoo.com (Brad Wilson)
Date: Wed Oct  4 03:21:14 2006
Subject: [NU Sports] that's the way it is
Message-ID: <20061004082109.2231.qmail@web51306.mail.yahoo.com>

While I yield to no one is my desire to see the NU
football talent pool beefed up in both quantity and
quality, and I quite concur with Dennis that as a
university and a football team NU can match anybody
and need stand in no one's shade, it seems me to be a
willful denial of reality to say that NU will ever
have Ohio State or Michigan's talent.

Leaving aside such matters as academics, players NU
could never recruit and the ability of NU to serve as 
 an NFL training ground -- which alone make the idea
of NU equaling Ohio State in talent improbable at best
-- consider this: 
 
College football is and seemingly always will be about
the grand, traditional powers that stalk the land.
Each major league has 2 or 3 of these, 2 or 3
traditionally very much weaker squads and a bunch of
middling teams in between. Once in a great while some
of the middling teams pop up into powers -- the
occasional forays of West Virginia into the elite come
to mind -- and even less often a traditional weak
sister becomes a power (Kansas State under Bill
Snyder, say).

But the top teams are not much different than they
were  25 years ago (and some go back much farther
before that): OSU, Penn State, Michigan, Clemson,
Georgia, Tennessee, Auburn, LSU, Notre Dame, Oklahoma,
Texas, USC, Alabama, Nebraska. Miami of Florida and
Florida State were beginning their runs in 1981. To
fall from this blessed bunch requires vicious scandal
(SMU) or sustained total incompetence (Notre Dame
under Faust).

For reasons everybody can name -- tradition, ability
to produce NFL players, home-state loyalty, money, the
willingness to debase a great university for the sake
of athletic success -- these teams always have
attracted the top talent. 

Sure, top players slip through their hands (Barry
Sanders, Donovan McNabb, Lawrence Taylor all come to
mind), but these powers get the largest share of
blue-chippers.

Now, this does NOT mean they always win. If it were
so, Notre Dame would have won 15 of the last 20
national championships, if you believe Tom Lemming's
recruiting rankings. Great coaches, players with
hearts as big as Kansas, a little luck and lots of
guts and moxie can overcome the talent deficiency -
and the classic example of that kind of team wore
purple, the '95 team we all love so much, that special
band of brothers that will always  "walk together
forever", to steal a Fred Shero line.

Longer-term efforts against the status quo are harder
to sustain. By using brilliant special teams play and
dazzling skill-position recruiting, Frank Beamer kept
Virginia Tech near the top, but always struggled
against the powers when things got tough. The way ESPN
promotes Captain Kirk at Iowa you'd think he was Amos
Alonzo Stagg, Pop Warner and Bill Belichick rolled
into one, but even his "Genius" doesn't do much with
OSU and Michigan.   Barry Alvarez used monster linemen
and powerhouse backs to take Wisconsin from doormat to
three Rose Bowl wins, but even he struggled mightily
against Michigan. Not even teams such as Texas A&M,
Arkansas and UCLA -- all with traditions that dwarf
NU's -- can keep up with the traditional heavyweights
in their leagues.

I dispute that just because NU can't -- and generally
won't -- be able to match PSU, OSU and Michigan in
talent it should drop to a another league. 'Twere that
so there'd be a lot of teams changing leagues across
the country.

There is no reason not to shoot for a Big Ten title
every season. It may even be possible to win three in
a decade (smile). But it will be done with less talent
that OSU, PSU and Michigan have almost every time,
just as Maryland, Missouri, Cal, Wake, etc., will do
so against the titans in their leagues. It will be
done on guts and glory, and with (somewhat) lesser
players.

I don't like that, but that's the way it is in college
football. And it will likely stay that way.

Brad Wilson















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From johnadeg at bellatlantic.net  Wed Oct  4 05:26:36 2006
From: johnadeg at bellatlantic.net (John A. DeGroat)
Date: Wed Oct  4 05:26:53 2006
Subject: [NU Sports] TV for Wisconsin Game
In-Reply-To: <03bb01c6e708$5aa2c850$97492745@hilgraeve.com>
References: <03bb01c6e708$5aa2c850$97492745@hilgraeve.com>
Message-ID: <45238C5C.2020502@bellatlantic.net>

ESPN and ABC for that matter are in business to make money, they aren't 
charities.  What is so hard about that to understand?

John DeGroat

Jeff Beamsley wrote:

> 
>Jonathan wrote <snip>
>
>I can see that old people who don't understand the internet might try to
>convince ISPs to pay for a service that ISP subscribers don't really want,
>but why restrict Universities?  Even an internet-ignorant old person (like
>those running ESPN) should be able to figure this out.
>
>====================
>
>I resemble that remark.
>
>Jeff 
>
>Tech '72
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From spiritu at northwestern.edu  Wed Oct  4 07:35:07 2006
From: spiritu at northwestern.edu (Jonathan Michael Hawkins)
Date: Wed Oct  4 07:35:27 2006
Subject: [NU Sports] TV for Wisconsin Game
In-Reply-To: <045701c6e71a$2a9631d0$97492745@hilgraeve.com>
References: <045701c6e71a$2a9631d0$97492745@hilgraeve.com>
Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.64.0610040727320.6605@localhost>

>> I was referring specifically to the subset of those over 35 who don't 
>> understand the internet.

> What about the subset of those under 35 who underestimate the wisdom and
> experience of those who (for goodness sake) built the darn Internet for you
> young pups?

Umm... those who "built the internet" (Postel?  Berners-Lee?  JWZ? 
Andreesen?  Norstad?  Pib?) probably don't fall into the class I was 
describing above.  Except for Al Gore. ;-)

Google "dot com bubble" and "destroyed pension plans" for more 
information.  These are the types of people who didn't get it when Homer 
said, "They have the Internet on computers now?"

> So on second thought, you can have the shovel back.  Dig away.  Your
> youthful myopia will someday produce a wiser man.

Ha!  I think my youthful myopia will just result in a stronger 
prescription from my optometrist.

It seems my comment was misunderstood.  If it's pleasing for you to be 
offended by misreading my words, enjoy.  Glad to help.

Jonathan

-- 
Jonathan Michael Hawkins
spiritu@northwestern.edu
Northwestern University
WCAS '03,  Law '09

From spiritu at northwestern.edu  Wed Oct  4 07:49:10 2006
From: spiritu at northwestern.edu (Jonathan Michael Hawkins)
Date: Wed Oct  4 07:49:21 2006
Subject: [NU Sports] TV for Wisconsin Game
In-Reply-To: <45238C5C.2020502@bellatlantic.net>
References: <03bb01c6e708$5aa2c850$97492745@hilgraeve.com>
	<45238C5C.2020502@bellatlantic.net>
Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.64.0610040737340.6605@localhost>

That's my point, John.  By failing to understand the realities of the 
market they've chosen to enter, ESPN and ABC will fail to make money from 
the ESPN360 venture.

I am concerned that the executives in charge over there will blame poor 
viewership on the teams rather than on the fact that their tied-to-ISPs 
subscription model (instead of the more appropriate 
tied-to-individual-users, like MLB) doesn't match the market.  I hope it 
does not affect our ability to get on actual real television in the 
upcoming games.

But back to making money, their continued internet miscues dilute the 
strong brand that ESPN has in television.  Were I a shareholder of the 
Mouse, I'd be unhappy indeed.

Jonathan

On Wed, 4 Oct 2006, John A. DeGroat wrote:

> ESPN and ABC for that matter are in business to make money, they aren't 
> charities.  What is so hard about that to understand?
>
> John DeGroat

-- 
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spiritu@northwestern.edu
Northwestern University
WCAS '03,  Law '09

From jeffb at hilgraeve.com  Wed Oct  4 08:21:12 2006
From: jeffb at hilgraeve.com (Jeff Beamsley)
Date: Wed Oct  4 08:21:17 2006
Subject: [NU Sports] TV for Wisconsin Game
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.64.0610040727320.6605@localhost>
Message-ID: <026801c6e7b7$f66a2260$97492745@hilgraeve.com>

Jonathan,

I wasn't offended.  

Just having a little fun at your expense.

I agree that you owe no one an apology for being proud of being young.

It is your job to change the world.  If you want to start by removing all
those over 35 who are abusing their positions of power, that sounds like a
good plan to me.

Jeff

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From: Jonathan Michael Hawkins [mailto:spiritu@northwestern.edu] 
Sent: Wednesday, October 04, 2006 8:35 AM
To: Jeff Beamsley
Cc: nwu-sports@tssi.com
Subject: RE: [NU Sports] TV for Wisconsin Game

>> I was referring specifically to the subset of those over 35 who don't 
>> understand the internet.

> What about the subset of those under 35 who underestimate the wisdom 
> and experience of those who (for goodness sake) built the darn 
> Internet for you young pups?

Umm... those who "built the internet" (Postel?  Berners-Lee?  JWZ? 
Andreesen?  Norstad?  Pib?) probably don't fall into the class I was
describing above.  Except for Al Gore. ;-)

Google "dot com bubble" and "destroyed pension plans" for more information.
These are the types of people who didn't get it when Homer said, "They have
the Internet on computers now?"

> So on second thought, you can have the shovel back.  Dig away.  Your 
> youthful myopia will someday produce a wiser man.

Ha!  I think my youthful myopia will just result in a stronger prescription
from my optometrist.

It seems my comment was misunderstood.  If it's pleasing for you to be
offended by misreading my words, enjoy.  Glad to help.

Jonathan

--
Jonathan Michael Hawkins
spiritu@northwestern.edu
Northwestern University
WCAS '03,  Law '09

From rstetson at capps-assoc.com  Wed Oct  4 08:34:58 2006
From: rstetson at capps-assoc.com (Roy Lamberton)
Date: Wed Oct  4 08:34:43 2006
Subject: [NU Sports] TV for Wisconsin Game
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.64.0610040737340.6605@localhost>
Message-ID: <000401c6e7b9$e333d9f0$6601a8c0@DAVIDXP>

There always has been a "free internet" theory running about the web. 

But the problem is that advertising, the typical broadcast model, doesn't work
because of the normally small numbers involved in internet access.

A good example is the Senior Softball World Series web site - we had well over a
million hits over the 6 days, but when you look at the actual numbers those hits
represent just over 200 people, not a very attractive market for an IBM or GM
budget.

Major League Baseball, the Porno guysand even ESPN Gameplan have it right - they
charge you a fee [monthly or otherwise] to access the information or now with
better streaming video, the movies. ESPN360 was a off the wall system, primarily
built so ESPN could support gaming. 

While the gameplan images are usually smooth [altho they run about 4 seconds
behind the action], 360 is jerky, even on a P4 with lotsa ram. 

When you call Comcast about carrying 360, they put you into phone loop hell. I
never did get to talk to anyone in authority, and to be honest, I don't have the
time right now to sit on hold for 2 or 3 days.

What has made the web so great is that it supports everything from text [this
board] to live streaming video. All you need is a high speed connection and you
can watch the world, even if half [I'm being generous] the political stuff on
all sides is bogus...

rsl

++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
Roy S. Lamberton - Senior Associate
Computer Applications & Support Associates
and Publisher of Purple Reign, 
The Scout.com Northwestern University Site
(http://www.purplewildcats.com)
AIM Handle: CoachRoy74
======== Go Cats -  Beat 'em All ===========
"You have a Republic Madam --
     If you can keep it" - Benjamin Franklin
============================================

> -----Original Message-----
> From: nwu-sports-bounces@tssi.com 
> [mailto:nwu-sports-bounces@tssi.com] On Behalf Of Jonathan 
> Michael Hawkins
> Sent: Wednesday, October 04, 2006 8:49 AM
> To: nwu-sports@tssi.com
> Subject: Re: [NU Sports] TV for Wisconsin Game
> 
> 
> That's my point, John.  By failing to understand the realities of the 
> market they've chosen to enter, ESPN and ABC will fail to 
> make money from 
> the ESPN360 venture.
> 
> I am concerned that the executives in charge over there will 
> blame poor 
> viewership on the teams rather than on the fact that their 
> tied-to-ISPs 
> subscription model (instead of the more appropriate 
> tied-to-individual-users, like MLB) doesn't match the market. 
>  I hope it 
> does not affect our ability to get on actual real television in the 
> upcoming games.
> 
> But back to making money, their continued internet miscues dilute the 
> strong brand that ESPN has in television.  Were I a 
> shareholder of the 
> Mouse, I'd be unhappy indeed.
> 
> Jonathan
> 
> On Wed, 4 Oct 2006, John A. DeGroat wrote:
> 
> > ESPN and ABC for that matter are in business to make money, they 
> > aren't
> > charities.  What is so hard about that to understand?
> >
> > John DeGroat
> 
> -- 
> Jonathan Michael Hawkins
> spiritu@northwestern.edu
> Northwestern University
> WCAS '03,  Law '09
> 
> _______________________________________________
> nwu-sports site list
> nwu-sports@tssi.com 
> http://romaine.tssi.com/mailman/listinfo/nwu-sports
> 


From johnl at mac.com  Wed Oct  4 09:11:52 2006
From: johnl at mac.com (John Labbe)
Date: Wed Oct  4 09:12:12 2006
Subject: [NU Sports] TV for Wisconsin Game
In-Reply-To: <45238C5C.2020502@bellatlantic.net>
References: <03bb01c6e708$5aa2c850$97492745@hilgraeve.com>
	<45238C5C.2020502@bellatlantic.net>
Message-ID: <4378871.1159971112377.JavaMail.johnl@mac.com>

What's hard to understand is that you've got everyone on this list, plus about half the state of Wisconsin, wanting to watch this game, many of whom would be willing to fork out $10-20 for a crappy internet feed just of this game, but practically no one in this audience will be able to see it.  How is that a plan to make money?


On Wednesday, October 04, 2006, at 06:28AM, John A. DeGroat <johnadeg@bellatlantic.net> wrote:

>ESPN and ABC for that matter are in business to make money, they aren't 
>charities.  What is so hard about that to understand?
>
>John DeGroat
>
>Jeff Beamsley wrote:
>
>> 
>>Jonathan wrote <snip>
>>
>>I can see that old people who don't understand the internet might try to
>>convince ISPs to pay for a service that ISP subscribers don't really want,
>>but why restrict Universities?  Even an internet-ignorant old person (like
>>those running ESPN) should be able to figure this out.
>>
>>====================
>>
>>I resemble that remark.
>>
>>Jeff 
>>
>>Tech '72
>>
>>
>>_______________________________________________
>>nwu-sports site list
>>nwu-sports@tssi.com
>>http://romaine.tssi.com/mailman/listinfo/nwu-sports
>>
>>
>>  
>>
>
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>

From jonathanwhodges at gmail.com  Wed Oct  4 09:20:22 2006
From: jonathanwhodges at gmail.com (Jonathan Hodges)
Date: Wed Oct  4 09:20:28 2006
Subject: [NU Sports] TV for Wisconsin Game
In-Reply-To: <000401c6e7b9$e333d9f0$6601a8c0@DAVIDXP>
References: <Pine.LNX.4.64.0610040737340.6605@localhost>
	<000401c6e7b9$e333d9f0$6601a8c0@DAVIDXP>
Message-ID: <fcb3ee270610040720m7cab94feke94272b79144ff37@mail.gmail.com>

When the web started out everyone basically expected everything to be free -
including internet access.  After the bubble, though, I think most people
have come to their senses, myself included.  I would definitely pony up the
cash to pay for this week's game on ESPN360 if I had the chance. Instead
they are trying to force something else down the throat of the service
provider - just like cable.

Of course with cable there are people trying to bring about change and give
you an a la carte choice for cable channels instead of the 2 or 3 options
you have now, which are basically nothing, everything plus everything you
don't need, and everything plus everything you don't want.

The internet was supposed to speed that change and make it cheaper and
easier for the content providers to get their information to you whenever
you want it.  It's getting there (see on-demand video of primetime shows on
ABC, part of the Disney empire) but still not there yet (ESPN's antics).

Jonathan

PS: Props to ESPN for putting us on TV so many times over the past few years
- I think at this point we may be getting a little spoiled.  At least that
was one good thing they provide.

On 10/4/06, Roy Lamberton <rstetson@capps-assoc.com> wrote:
>
> There always has been a "free internet" theory running about the web.
>
> But the problem is that advertising, the typical broadcast model, doesn't
> work
> because of the normally small numbers involved in internet access.
>
> A good example is the Senior Softball World Series web site - we had well
> over a
> million hits over the 6 days, but when you look at the actual numbers
> those hits
> represent just over 200 people, not a very attractive market for an IBM or
> GM
> budget.
>
> Major League Baseball, the Porno guysand even ESPN Gameplan have it right
> - they
> charge you a fee [monthly or otherwise] to access the information or now
> with
> better streaming video, the movies. ESPN360 was a off the wall system,
> primarily
> built so ESPN could support gaming.
>
> While the gameplan images are usually smooth [altho they run about 4
> seconds
> behind the action], 360 is jerky, even on a P4 with lotsa ram.
>
> When you call Comcast about carrying 360, they put you into phone loop
> hell. I
> never did get to talk to anyone in authority, and to be honest, I don't
> have the
> time right now to sit on hold for 2 or 3 days.
>
> What has made the web so great is that it supports everything from text
> [this
> board] to live streaming video. All you need is a high speed connection
> and you
> can watch the world, even if half [I'm being generous] the political stuff
> on
> all sides is bogus...
>
> rsl
>
> ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
> Roy S. Lamberton - Senior Associate
> Computer Applications & Support Associates
> and Publisher of Purple Reign,
> The Scout.com Northwestern University Site
> (http://www.purplewildcats.com)
> AIM Handle: CoachRoy74
> ======== Go Cats -  Beat 'em All ===========
> "You have a Republic Madam --
>      If you can keep it" - Benjamin Franklin
> ============================================
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: nwu-sports-bounces@tssi.com
> > [mailto:nwu-sports-bounces@tssi.com] On Behalf Of Jonathan
> > Michael Hawkins
> > Sent: Wednesday, October 04, 2006 8:49 AM
> > To: nwu-sports@tssi.com
> > Subject: Re: [NU Sports] TV for Wisconsin Game
> >
> >
> > That's my point, John.  By failing to understand the realities of the
> > market they've chosen to enter, ESPN and ABC will fail to
> > make money from
> > the ESPN360 venture.
> >
> > I am concerned that the executives in charge over there will
> > blame poor
> > viewership on the teams rather than on the fact that their
> > tied-to-ISPs
> > subscription model (instead of the more appropriate
> > tied-to-individual-users, like MLB) doesn't match the market.
> >  I hope it
> > does not affect our ability to get on actual real television in the
> > upcoming games.
> >
> > But back to making money, their continued internet miscues dilute the
> > strong brand that ESPN has in television.  Were I a
> > shareholder of the
> > Mouse, I'd be unhappy indeed.
> >
> > Jonathan
> >
> > On Wed, 4 Oct 2006, John A. DeGroat wrote:
> >
> > > ESPN and ABC for that matter are in business to make money, they
> > > aren't
> > > charities.  What is so hard about that to understand?
> > >
> > > John DeGroat
> >
> > --
> > Jonathan Michael Hawkins
> > spiritu@northwestern.edu
> > Northwestern University
> > WCAS '03,  Law '09
> >
> > _______________________________________________
> > nwu-sports site list
> > nwu-sports@tssi.com
> > http://romaine.tssi.com/mailman/listinfo/nwu-sports
> >
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> nwu-sports site list
> nwu-sports@tssi.com
> http://romaine.tssi.com/mailman/listinfo/nwu-sports
>



-- 
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829 Foster St Apt 401
Evanston, IL  60201-3259
(847) 736-2449
jonathanwhodges@gmail.com
http://jhodges.org
From jonathanwhodges at gmail.com  Wed Oct  4 09:36:52 2006
From: jonathanwhodges at gmail.com (Jonathan Hodges)
Date: Wed Oct  4 09:36:58 2006
Subject: [NU Sports] TV for Wisconsin Game
In-Reply-To: <4378871.1159971112377.JavaMail.johnl@mac.com>
References: <03bb01c6e708$5aa2c850$97492745@hilgraeve.com>
	<45238C5C.2020502@bellatlantic.net>
	<4378871.1159971112377.JavaMail.johnl@mac.com>
Message-ID: <fcb3ee270610040736q48f7c55bkd5e46090f7b639f7@mail.gmail.com>

On 10/4/06, John Labbe <johnl@mac.com> wrote:
>
> What's hard to understand is that you've got everyone on this list, plus
> about half the state of Wisconsin, wanting to watch this game, many of whom
> would be willing to fork out $10-20 for a crappy internet feed just of this
> game, but practically no one in this audience will be able to see it.  How
> is that a plan to make money?


Because ESPN forces the ISP to pay a fee for every subscriber, whether they
watch ESPN360 (or even knows that it exists) or not.  And eventually if they
get enough people to fill out that form and call their ISPs then they'll
pony up.  And everyone's service rates will increase.

Of course they could make the cash now if they put it on GamePlan and well
all dished out the cash for the game.

Doesn't make sense, but welcome to corporate America, I suppose.

Jonathan




-- 
Jonathan W. Hodges
829 Foster St Apt 401
Evanston, IL  60201-3259
(847) 736-2449
jonathanwhodges@gmail.com
http://jhodges.org
From rstetson at capps-assoc.com  Wed Oct  4 10:23:06 2006
From: rstetson at capps-assoc.com (Roy Lamberton)
Date: Wed Oct  4 10:22:54 2006
Subject: [NU Sports] TV for Wisconsin Game
In-Reply-To: <fcb3ee270610040736q48f7c55bkd5e46090f7b639f7@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <000c01c6e7c8$fdd24850$6601a8c0@DAVIDXP>

I've found over the years when dealing with internet stuff, that at times there
are delivery systems that seem to have a life of their own, based on who the
webmaster or MIS director happens to be.

The ESPN360 appears to be part of the flash family of internet programs, and as
such enjoys a following among a large group of guys who learned how to program
there.

Its just like Fortran and Cobol, two old computer languages that continue to
evolve and remain mainstays in business, even though you can hardly find a
training course on either one. The old C language is in a similar boat.

As for the doofus who came up with ESPN360 charging the ISPs instead of the
users, he's probably working for Disneyworld as a programming supervisor, long
gone from internet wars....

rsl

++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
Roy S. Lamberton - Senior Associate
Computer Applications & Support Associates
and Publisher of Purple Reign, 
The Scout.com Northwestern University Site
(http://www.purplewildcats.com)
AIM Handle: CoachRoy74
======== Go Cats -  Beat 'em All ===========
"You have a Republic Madam --
     If you can keep it" - Benjamin Franklin
============================================

> -----Original Message-----
> From: nwu-sports-bounces@tssi.com 
> [mailto:nwu-sports-bounces@tssi.com] On Behalf Of Jonathan Hodges
> Sent: Wednesday, October 04, 2006 10:37 AM
> To: John Labbe
> Cc: nwu-sports@tssi.com
> Subject: Re: [NU Sports] TV for Wisconsin Game
> 
> 
> On 10/4/06, John Labbe <johnl@mac.com> wrote:
> >
> > What's hard to understand is that you've got everyone on this list, 
> > plus about half the state of Wisconsin, wanting to watch this game, 
> > many of whom would be willing to fork out $10-20 for a 
> crappy internet 
> > feed just of this game, but practically no one in this 
> audience will 
> > be able to see it.  How is that a plan to make money?
> 
> 
> Because ESPN forces the ISP to pay a fee for every 
> subscriber, whether they watch ESPN360 (or even knows that it 
> exists) or not.  And eventually if they get enough people to 
> fill out that form and call their ISPs then they'll pony up.  
> And everyone's service rates will increase.
> 
> Of course they could make the cash now if they put it on 
> GamePlan and well all dished out the cash for the game.
> 
> Doesn't make sense, but welcome to corporate America, I suppose.
> 
> Jonathan
> 
> 
> 
> 
> -- 
> Jonathan W. Hodges
> 829 Foster St Apt 401
> Evanston, IL  60201-3259
> (847) 736-2449
> jonathanwhodges@gmail.com
> http://jhodges.org _______________________________________________
> nwu-sports site list
> nwu-sports@tssi.com 
> http://romaine.tssi.com/mailman/listinfo/nwu-sports
> 

From johnadeg at bellatlantic.net  Wed Oct  4 13:35:02 2006
From: johnadeg at bellatlantic.net (John A. DeGroat)
Date: Wed Oct  4 13:35:24 2006
Subject: [NU Sports] TV for Wisconsin Game
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.64.0610040737340.6605@localhost>
References: <03bb01c6e708$5aa2c850$97492745@hilgraeve.com>
	<45238C5C.2020502@bellatlantic.net>
	<Pine.LNX.4.64.0610040737340.6605@localhost>
Message-ID: <4523FED6.5020005@bellatlantic.net>

Sounded to me like you wanted something for nothing.  All companies make 
marketing mistakes, some bigger than others.  Trying to tie a product to 
an ISP provider didn't sound like a bad idea to me.  The ISPs could make 
accessing ESPN360 a marketing gimmick whether it would work or not is a 
different issue.  Companies that think only birds can fly are bound to 
be left behind..  ABC/Disney have screwed up a lot of things in the past 
and will probably do so again but give them credit for trying 
something.  Understanding what the Internet can do is still in its 
infancy in my opinion.

John DeGroat

Jonathan Michael Hawkins wrote:

> That's my point, John.  By failing to understand the realities of the 
> market they've chosen to enter, ESPN and ABC will fail to make money 
> from the ESPN360 venture.
>
> I am concerned that the executives in charge over there will blame 
> poor viewership on the teams rather than on the fact that their 
> tied-to-ISPs subscription model (instead of the more appropriate 
> tied-to-individual-users, like MLB) doesn't match the market.  I hope 
> it does not affect our ability to get on actual real television in the 
> upcoming games.
>
> But back to making money, their continued internet miscues dilute the 
> strong brand that ESPN has in television.  Were I a shareholder of the 
> Mouse, I'd be unhappy indeed.
>
> Jonathan
>
> On Wed, 4 Oct 2006, John A. DeGroat wrote:
>
>> ESPN and ABC for that matter are in business to make money, they 
>> aren't charities.  What is so hard about that to understand?
>>
>> John DeGroat
>
>

From rstetson at capps-assoc.com  Wed Oct  4 22:45:46 2006
From: rstetson at capps-assoc.com (Roy Lamberton)
Date: Wed Oct  4 22:45:42 2006
Subject: [NU Sports] TV for Wisconsin Game
In-Reply-To: <4523FED6.5020005@bellatlantic.net>
Message-ID: <000801c6e830$be3a64d0$6601a8c0@DAVIDXP>

John - 

I can't speak for Jon, but I just want to be able to watch all of NU's football
and basketball games. Either by ppv TV, cable channel, or PPV Internet. Lst year
I bought both the Internet Football Game Plan and the Cable PPV Basketball game
plan because I cannot afford to fly to Chicago every week to attend the games in
person.

While the number of NU alums in the same boat is probably a lot smaller than the
number of dOSU or Wisconsin Alums, I'm sure that there are enough alums from any
two schools who would pay to watch a game, at least enuff to cover the costs
involved.

Given what TV loses on various sports shows, covering one's costs is a good
place to start.

rsl


++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
Roy S. Lamberton - Senior Associate
Computer Applications & Support Associates
and Publisher of Purple Reign, 
The Scout.com Northwestern University Site
(http://www.purplewildcats.com)
AIM Handle: CoachRoy74
======== Go Cats -  Beat 'em All ===========
"You have a Republic Madam --
     If you can keep it" - Benjamin Franklin
============================================

> -----Original Message-----
> From: nwu-sports-bounces@tssi.com 
> [mailto:nwu-sports-bounces@tssi.com] On Behalf Of John A. DeGroat
> Sent: Wednesday, October 04, 2006 2:35 PM
> To: Jonathan Michael Hawkins
> Cc: nwu-sports@tssi.com
> Subject: Re: [NU Sports] TV for Wisconsin Game
> 
> 
> Sounded to me like you wanted something for nothing.  All 
> companies make 
> marketing mistakes, some bigger than others.  Trying to tie a 
> product to 
> an ISP provider didn't sound like a bad idea to me.  The ISPs 
> could make 
> accessing ESPN360 a marketing gimmick whether it would work 
> or not is a 
> different issue.  Companies that think only birds can fly are 
> bound to 
> be left behind..  ABC/Disney have screwed up a lot of things 
> in the past 
> and will probably do so again but give them credit for trying 
> something.  Understanding what the Internet can do is still in its 
> infancy in my opinion.
> 
> John DeGroat
> 
> Jonathan Michael Hawkins wrote:
> 
> > That's my point, John.  By failing to understand the 
> realities of the
> > market they've chosen to enter, ESPN and ABC will fail to 
> make money 
> > from the ESPN360 venture.
> >
> > I am concerned that the executives in charge over there will blame
> > poor viewership on the teams rather than on the fact that their 
> > tied-to-ISPs subscription model (instead of the more appropriate 
> > tied-to-individual-users, like MLB) doesn't match the 
> market.  I hope 
> > it does not affect our ability to get on actual real 
> television in the 
> > upcoming games.
> >
> > But back to making money, their continued internet miscues 
> dilute the
> > strong brand that ESPN has in television.  Were I a 
> shareholder of the 
> > Mouse, I'd be unhappy indeed.
> >
> > Jonathan
> >
> > On Wed, 4 Oct 2006, John A. DeGroat wrote:
> >
> >> ESPN and ABC for that matter are in business to make money, they
> >> aren't charities.  What is so hard about that to understand?
> >>
> >> John DeGroat
> >
> >
> 
> _______________________________________________
> nwu-sports site list
> nwu-sports@tssi.com 
> http://romaine.tssi.com/mailman/listinfo/nwu-sports
> 


From mzilka at sbcglobal.net  Thu Oct  5 09:21:09 2006
From: mzilka at sbcglobal.net (Marilyn J Zilka)
Date: Thu Oct  5 09:21:15 2006
Subject: [NU Sports] Illinois Tickets available
Message-ID: <20061005142109.40398.qmail@web81512.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

I have 6 tickets available for the Illinois game
Upper deck 50 yd line
 
$32 face 
 
Email me directly if anyone has an interest
 
Marilyn
From rstetson at capps-assoc.com  Thu Oct  5 12:33:21 2006
From: rstetson at capps-assoc.com (Roy Lamberton)
Date: Thu Oct  5 12:33:21 2006
Subject: [NU Sports] NU Sports News Digest for 10/5
Message-ID: <000401c6e8a4$5b9834a0$6601a8c0@DAVIDXP>

www.PurpleWildcats.com
for Purple Reign & the NU Sports List

Thursday Late Edition

The other Football shows the way for the Northwestern Wildcats this Thursday -
More Fall sports stories, plus the PGA Cats in action, More other Alumni stories
too.

        All the News that Fits We Link
       Your Index to on-line News about
       Northwestern University Athletics

FOOTBALL

     Brewer remains starter at QB as Kafka heals
 
http://www.chicagotribune.com/sports/chi-0610050311oct05,1,5807105.story?coll=ch
i-sportsnew-hed 
     + Brewer to get 2nd start at QB
      http://www.suntimes.com/sports/colleges/84474,CST-SPT-local05.article 
     + Brewer to start, Heinz hurts foot? (Football)
 
http://www.dailynorthwestern.com/news/2006/10/05/Sports/Brewer.To.Start.Heinz.Hu
rts.Foot.football-2333669.shtml 

     Northwestern-Wisconsin matchup
 
http://chicagosports.chicagotribune.com/sports/college/northwestern/cs-061002nor
thwesternwisconsinmatchup,1,4027794.storylink?coll=cs-college-nwestern-print 
     + Injuries, Inconsistency Blocking O-line
 
http://www.dailynorthwestern.com/news/2006/10/05/Sports/Injuries.Inconsistency.B
locking.OLine.football-2333673.shtml 

     Cats' success starts with six-inch push
 
http://www.pioneerlocal.com/mortongrove/sports/83466,mg-nufbl-100506-s1.article 

     Garcia: Don't hit the panic button
     http://www.wnur.org/sports/analysts/garcia09282006.htm 

Next up for the Cats:

     10/7@ Wisconsin Badgers
     Schreiner's No. 80 Unveiled Saturday
 
http://www.uwbadgers.com/sport_news/fb/headlines/story.html?sportid=111&storyid=
9302 
     $ Youth Is Served - UW vs. Northwestern
      http://wisconsin.scout.com/2/576075.html 
     $ Centering the Ball with Derek Engler Part II
      http://wisconsin.scout.com/2/575683.html 
     + Point / Counterpoint
      http://story.scout.com/a.z?s=193&p=2&c=575667 
     + Smith giving sneak peek
      http://badgerherald.com/sports/2006/10/05/smith_giving_sneak_p.php 
     + Success Stocco's hallmark
      http://www.madison.com/wsj/home/sports/index.php?ntid=101768 
     + Staying cool on the hot seat
      http://www.jsonline.com/story/index.aspx?id=509929 

     Mike Lucas: If we're going to have a 12th game, why not a playoff?
      http://www.madison.com/tct/sports/lucas/index.php?ntid=101584 

     Big 10
     October 3 Teleconference
 
javascript:window.open('http://www.ocsn.com/media_server/play.smil?school=big10&
media_type=audio&content=http://mfile.akamai.com/8108/wma/cstvcbs.download.akama
i.com/8108/open/big10/audio/m-footbl/10oct/1000306_big10_telecon.wma','VideoBroa
dcastMediaPlayer','toolbar=no,resizable=no,scrollbars=no,width=468,height=220');

     void(''); 

RECRUITING

     PSU and the Cats offer a Junior
     Holley adds a pair of Big Ten Offers
      http://story.scout.com/a.z?s=179&p=2&c=575997 

     National View
     Jamie's Mailbag
      http://story.scout.com/a.z?s=179&p=2&c=575866 

     Michael Bolden Bolden carries Kits to OT win
 
http://www.pioneerlocal.com/evanston/sports/83702,ev-nwevfootball-100506-s1.arti
cle 

     Scout's series on how previous classes rate today...
     $ Defense: NU's Class of 2003
      http://northwestern.scout.com/2/576109.html 
     + Class of 2003 Defense
      http://story.scout.com/a.z?s=179&p=2&c=575741 
     + Class of 2003:The Teams
      http://story.scout.com/a.z?s=179&p=2&c=576080 

     Top 10 Uncommitted Basketball Prospects From The Class of 2007 In The State
Of Illinois
      http://www.chicagohoops.com/articles1/uncomoct.html 

BASKETBALL

     WNUR Guys  - argue among yourselves....
     Breaking down the Men's Basketball schedule
      http://www.wnur.org/sports/analysts/benson20060927.htm 
     + Garcia: Benson isn't your best basketball analyst
      http://www.wnur.org/sports/analysts/garcia09292006.htm 

SOCCER

     Women Waiting For Another Shot At Pros
 
http://www.dailynorthwestern.com/news/2006/10/05/Sports/Women.Waiting.For.Anothe
r.Shot.At.Pros.womens.Soccer-2333664.shtml 

     'Gusts' Of Offense Push Cats Past Losing Streak With Victory
 
http://www.dailynorthwestern.com/news/2006/10/05/Sports/gusts.Of.Offense.Push.Ca
ts.Past.Losing.Streak.With.Victory.mens.Soccer-2333666.shtml 
     + Northwestern Blows By Valparaiso, 4-2
      http://nusports.cstv.com/sports/m-soccer/recaps/100406aab.html 
     + Will Nicholas Suffers Season-Ending Knee Injury
      http://nusports.cstv.com/sports/m-soccer/spec-rel/100406aaa.html 
     + Crusaders Fall 4-2 at Northwestern
      http://www.valpo.edu/athletics/index.php?a=s&a2=vnr&sid=5&nrid=2885 

TENNIS

     Wildcats Set to Begin Play at All-American Championships
      http://nusports.cstv.com/sports/m-tennis/spec-rel/100406aab.html 
     Alexis Prousis Ready to Represent Northwestern at All-American
Championships
      http://nusports.cstv.com/sports/w-tennis/spec-rel/100406aaa.html 

VOLLEYBALL

     Northwestern's First Big Ten Road Trip Features the Michigans
      http://nusports.cstv.com/sports/w-volley/spec-rel/100306aab.html 
     Nobilio really digging her role with Wildcats
 
http://www.pioneerlocal.com/evanston/sports/83876,ev-nobilio-100506-s1.article 
     Scouts enjoy a great night at Welsh-Ryan Arena
      http://nusports.cstv.com/genrel/100406aab.html 

MISCELLANY

     Tech Explosion Injures 2
 
http://www.dailynorthwestern.com/news/2006/10/05/Campus/Tech-Explosion.Injures.2
-2333615.shtml 
     NCAA's tax-exempt status questioned
      http://www.dailysouthtown.com/sports/85169,2SD8-05.article 
     New NU Alumni Web Site
      file:///C|/Documents and Settings/rsl/My
Documents/PurpleReign/www.development.northwestern.edu, 

Alumni

     Joe Girardi Cubs candidate: 'I can get along'
 
http://www.chicagotribune.com/sports/baseball/cubs/cs-061004cubs,1,3166524.story
?coll=chi-sportstop-hed 

     PGA
     Luke Donald
     Nationwide Tour h Mark Christopher Charity Classic
      http://www.pgatour.com/tournaments/h046 
     Jess Daley - Full Scorecard
      http://www.pgatour.com/players/scorecard/285331/h046/2006 
     Tom Johnson - Full Scorecard
      http://www.pgatour.com/players/scorecard/466839/h046/2006 

   2006 Football Opponents

     10/14 Purdue Boilermakers [Family Weekend]
     Lack of televised games inconveniences Purdue fans
      http://www.purdueexponent.org/?module=article&story_id=2310 
     + Drew Tate could pose threat for Boilers
      http://www.purdueexponent.org/?module=article&story_id=2308 
     + Purdue shrugs off pink room
 
http://www.boilerstation.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20061004/SPORTS020101/61
0040346/1122/BOILER 
     + Powell's development pivotal to Boilers
 
http://www.boilerstation.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20061004/SPORTS020101/61
0040347/1122/BOILER 
     + Former walk-on earns starting role
 
http://www.boilerstation.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20061005/SPORTS020101/61
0050318/1122/BOILER 



From rstetson at capps-assoc.com  Fri Oct  6 21:08:42 2006
From: rstetson at capps-assoc.com (Roy Lamberton)
Date: Fri Oct  6 21:08:41 2006
Subject: [NU Sports] NU Sports News Digest for 10/6
Message-ID: <000001c6e9b5$84e413d0$6601a8c0@DAVIDXP>

www.PurpleWildcats.com
for Purple Reign & the NU Sports List

Friday Late, Late Edition

Finally, some Football news, but there's more Northwestern Fall Sports action to
follow.

        All the News that Fits We Link
       Your Index to on-line News about
       Northwestern University Athletics

FOOTBALL

     Hey, Young'n, You've Got A Lot To Prove As Coach
 
http://www.dailynorthwestern.com/news/2006/10/06/Gameday/Hey-Youngn.Youve.Got.A.
Lot.To.Prove.As.Coach-2337101.shtml 
     3-4 Nation 
 
http://www.dailynorthwestern.com/news/2006/10/06/Gameday/34.Nation-2337057.shtml


Next up for the Cats:

     10/7@ Wisconsin Badgers
     Do Not Pass On These Badgers
 
http://www.dailynorthwestern.com/news/2006/10/06/Gameday/Do.Not.Pass.On.These.Ba
dgers-2337084.shtml 
     $ Youth Is Served - UW vs. Northwestern
      http://wisconsin.scout.com/2/576075.html 
     + Badgers kick off October homestand
      http://badgerherald.com/sports/2006/10/06/badgers_kick_off_oct.php 
     + Patience vital for Rogers
      http://www.jsonline.com/story/index.aspx?id=510282 
     + Wildcats searching for offense, wins
 
http://www.dailycardinal.com/sports/wildcats-searching-for-offense,-wins.html 
     + Fun-loving senior LB Zalewski all business on the field
      http://www.madison.com/tct/mad/sports//index.php?ntid=102055 
     + Notes: Less fat, more production for Crooks
      http://www.jsonline.com/story/index.aspx?id=510156 
     + Staying cool on the hot seat
      http://www.jsonline.com/story/index.aspx?id=509929 

     Top 5 reasons you can blame ESPN
      http://badgerherald.com/sports/2006/10/06/top_five_reasons_you.php 
     + ESPN's decision to bump Badgers
      http://www.jsonline.com/story/index.aspx?id=510197 

     Big 10
     Harris leads Michigan's D into test vs. State
      http://rss.cnn.com/%7Er/rss/si_ncaaf/%7E3/33028871/index.html 

RECRUITING

     Mabin Announcement Date Set
      http://northwestern.scout.com/2/576422.html 
     Shining in Amherst
      http://scout.scout.com/a.z?s=179&p=9&c=2&cid=576314&nid=2768833&fhn=1 
     Defense: NU's Class of 2003
     http://northwestern.scout.com/2/576109.html 

FIELD HOCKEY

     Star Player Turned Coach Rebuilding Team
 
http://www.dailynorthwestern.com/news/2006/10/06/Sports/Star-Player.Turned.Coach
.Rebuilding.Team.field.Hockey-2336663.shtml 

GOLF

     17th-Ranked Wildcats Ready For Lady Paladin Invitational
      http://nusports.cstv.com/sports/w-golf/spec-rel/100506aaa.html 
     Skokie Golf Course Hosts NU's Only Homestand
 
http://www.dailynorthwestern.com/news/2006/10/06/Sports/Skokie.Golf.Course.Hosts
.Nus.Only.Homestand-2336670.shtml 

SOCCER

     Men
     Game's Sweeter After A Year Out
 
http://www.dailynorthwestern.com/news/2006/10/06/Sports/Games.Sweeter.After.A.Ye
ar.Out.mens.Soccer-2336668.shtml 
     Football Takes Backseat
 
http://www.dailynorthwestern.com/news/2006/10/06/Sports/Football.Takes.Backseat.
mens.Soccer-2336661.shtml 

     Women
     'Cats Ready to Begin Last Homestand
      http://nusports.cstv.com/sports/w-soccer/spec-rel/100506aab.html 

SWIMMING

     NU Assistant Coach to be Inducted into IUPUI Athletics Hall of Fame
      http://nusports.cstv.com/sports/w-swim/spec-rel/100506aab.html 

TENNIS

     Men
     Wildcat Duo Advances to Second Round of All-American Championships
      http://nusports.cstv.com/sports/m-tennis/spec-rel/100506aac.html 
     + New Top Doubles Team Moves To Second Round Of Tournament
 
http://www.dailynorthwestern.com/news/2006/10/06/Sports/New-Top.Doubles.Team.Mov
es.To.Second.Round.Of.Tournament.mens.Tennis-2336672.shtml 

     Women
     Northwestern Set to Host Wildcat Invitational
      http://nusports.cstv.com/sports/w-tennis/spec-rel/100506aac.html 
     Prousis Falls at All-American Championships
      http://nusports.cstv.com/sports/w-tennis/spec-rel/100406aaa.html 

VOLLEYBALL

     All Grown Up, Middle Blocker
 
http://www.dailynorthwestern.com/news/2006/10/06/Sports/All-Grown.Up.Middle.Bloc
ker.volleyball-2336666.shtml 
     Volleyball Hosts Illinois And Northwestern In Weekend Action State ...
      http://www.cstv.com/sports/w-volley/stories/100506aaq.html 

MISCELLANY

     Yale football, hockey players brawl
      http://feeds.feedburner.com/%7Er/Foxsports/rss/CFB/%7E3/32986983/6033632 

Alumni

     Joe Girardi Evaluating the Cubs' top 3 candidates

     PGA
     Luke Donald

     Nationwide Tour h Mark Christopher Charity Classic
      http://www.pgatour.com/tournaments/h046 
     Jess Daley - Full Scorecard  Still on the course, but at -1
      http://www.pgatour.com/players/scorecard/285331/h046/2006 
     Tom Johnson - Full Scorecard In 9th Place after 2 rounds
      http://www.pgatour.com/players/scorecard/466839/h046/2006  

   2006 Football Opponents

     10/14 Purdue Boilermakers [Family Weekend]
     10/21 Michigan State Spartans 11 AM [HC]
     10/28 @ Michigan Wolverines 11 AM ABC/ESPN
     11/4 @ Iowa Hawkeyes
     11/11 Ohio State [Lasalle Bank Day]
     11/18 Illinois Fighting Illini [Senior Day]

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From WildElk2 at aol.com  Fri Oct  6 22:31:59 2006
From: WildElk2 at aol.com (WildElk2@aol.com)
Date: Fri Oct  6 22:32:08 2006
Subject: [NU Sports] Wisky prediction
Message-ID: <2dd.e7632d6.325879af@aol.com>

It's been a long time since a game brought so little  reaction.  All the talk 
has been about ESPN's decision to broadcast the  game online, not about the 
game itself.  Perhaps it's our way of avoiding  this weekend?
   QB- Brewer, Kafka, Bacher vs. Stocco. OUCH.  I really  like Stocco.  He 
reminds me of Schnur.  All accounts say that Brewer  will go tomorrow.  
   I really believe that if Bacher didn't hurt himself, he may  have provided 
stability to our offense.  Add to Bacher going down along  with Mathews and 
Thompson, and we should have seen a slow start  coming.
   I would like to see Bacher start (providing he is healthy, as  most 
sources say he is).  I would like Brewer to play slotback/WR, and  Kafka as the 
backup, who would play 1-2 series per gameto run/stay sharp.   We need to shake 
things up.
   As far as this game goes, I see a 38-17 loss.  I  predicted a 17-31 loss 
last week, and our defense did an admirable job of  keeping us in the game.  
Stocco will hit a few balls that Morelli  missed.
   I see a win at all costs game at home vs. Sparty.  Not a  bad place to be. 
 In 2003 and 2004 we saved our season with huge wins when  we were 2 games 
below .500.  Yes, we'll need to beat MSU and Purdue, and  still need to beat one 
of OSO/Mich/Iowa and Illinois to go 6-6, but  one game at a time.  
   Tomorrow, we need to see improvement on offense.  Our  defense will keep 
us in games, but it's time for our 1998-like offense to look  like our 2003-05 
offense.  As always.,
 
  Trust the Plan,    go  Cats!!!              Eric
From rstetson at capps-assoc.com  Sat Oct  7 08:59:24 2006
From: rstetson at capps-assoc.com (Roy Lamberton)
Date: Sat Oct  7 08:59:14 2006
Subject: [NU Sports] NU Sports News Digest for 10/7
Message-ID: <000701c6ea18$cc1ff940$6601a8c0@DAVIDXP>

www.PurpleWildcats.com
for Purple Reign & the NU Sports List


Special Note - Family Obligations will pull me away from the computer this
weekend. I won't be on the Chat but feel free to use the Purple Reign chat room.

Pregame Edition

Finally, some Football news, but there's more Northwestern Fall Sports action to
follow.

            All the News that Fits We Link
           Your Index to on-line News about
          Northwestern University Athletics

FOOTBALL

     Thompson ready to make some noise
 
http://chicagosports.chicagotribune.com/sports/college/northwestern/cs-061006032
2oct06,1,7699968.story?coll=cs-college-nwestern-print 
     Young coaches, old problem -- winning
      http://www.suntimes.com/sports/colleges/87405,CST-SPT-nu07.article 
     + Youth serves
      http://www.dailyherald.com/sports/northwestern.asp?id=235938 

     But...WHAT ABOUT THE ALUMNI WHO DON'T LIVE ON CAMPUS??????
     Northwestern-Wisconsin ESPN Broadcast Available On Campus
      http://nusports.cstv.com/sports/m-footbl/spec-rel/100506aaa.html 

Next up for the Cats:

     10/7@ Wisconsin Badgers
     + Mike Lucas: Beckum, Kendricks learning to find their niche
      http://www.madison.com/tct/mad/sports//index.php?ntid=102176 
     + Positively catching
      http://www.madison.com/wsj/mad/sports/index.php?ntid=102160 
     + Oates: ESPN's call leaves viewers blindsided again
      http://www.madison.com/wsj/home/column/index.php?ntid=102161 
     + Defending its honor
      http://www.jsonline.com/story/index.aspx?id=510570 
     + Memorable games mark UW-NU rivalry
      http://www.jsonline.com/story/index.aspx?id=510547 
     + Patience vital for Rogers
      http://www.jsonline.com/story/index.aspx?id=510282 
     + Big Ten preview: Wisconsin vs. Northwestern
 
http://www.postcrescent.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20061007/APC0201/61007058
2/1892/APCsports 

     Depth chart
      http://www.jsonline.com/story/index.aspx?id=343818 

     Big 10


RECRUITING

     Blake Sorenson Metro Top 10
      http://www.startribune.com/526/story/727330.html 

GOLF

     Day One at the Wildcat Invitational
      http://nusports.cstv.com/sports/w-tennis/spec-rel/100606aag.html 

SOCCER

     Women
     Spartans Edge Wildcats, 2-1
      http://nusports.cstv.com/sports/w-soccer/recaps/100606aab.html 

SWIMMING



TENNIS

     Men
     Northwestern Duo Bows Out of All-American Championships
      http://nusports.cstv.com/sports/m-tennis/spec-rel/100606aab.html 
     Women
     Day One at the Wildcat Invitational
      http://nusports.cstv.com/sports/w-tennis/spec-rel/100606aag.html 

VOLLEYBALL

     Northwestern Falls in Sweep at Michigan, 3-0
      http://nusports.cstv.com/sports/w-volley/recaps/100606aaa.html 


Alumni

     PGA
     Luke Donald
     Nationwide Tour h Mark Christopher Charity Classic
      http://www.pgatour.com/tournaments/h046 
     Jess Daley - Full Scorecard
      http://www.pgatour.com/players/scorecard/285331/h046/2006 
     Tom Johnson - Full Scorecard
      http://www.pgatour.com/players/scorecard/466839/h046/2006 

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From jleonard518 at yahoo.com  Sat Oct  7 09:29:08 2006
From: jleonard518 at yahoo.com (Jim Leonard)
Date: Sat Oct  7 09:29:12 2006
Subject: [NU Sports] How does espn360 work?
In-Reply-To: <000801c6e830$be3a64d0$6601a8c0@DAVIDXP>
Message-ID: <20061007142908.79863.qmail@web36809.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

Has anyone figured this out? I live in Nashville and suffer with Comcast. I
logged on to the www.espn360.com site and I don't see any link to our game. And
when you click PPV, it isn't listed on the Gameplan. 

Any advice?

Thanks,
Jim

__________________________________________________
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From tbng at comcast.net  Sat Oct  7 10:23:31 2006
From: tbng at comcast.net (Dennis W. Brandt)
Date: Sat Oct  7 10:23:44 2006
Subject: [NU Sports] How does espn360 work?
References: <20061007142908.79863.qmail@web36809.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <000501c6ea24$8c474100$c402a8c0@DennisMachine>

Comcast has no contract with ESPN to carry ESPN360, although how they missed 
that I can't possibly say.  It's Dave Eanet time. 

From jonathanwhodges at gmail.com  Sat Oct  7 14:40:17 2006
From: jonathanwhodges at gmail.com (Jonathan Hodges)
Date: Sat Oct  7 14:40:26 2006
Subject: [NU Sports] NU Sports News Digest for 10/7
In-Reply-To: <000701c6ea18$cc1ff940$6601a8c0@DAVIDXP>
References: <000701c6ea18$cc1ff940$6601a8c0@DAVIDXP>
Message-ID: <fcb3ee270610071240u2802d1ddy506f999afd54ce8@mail.gmail.com>

Turns out that the game was NOT available on campus.  Apparently NUIT did
not give ESPN the correct range of IP addresses and never got it corrected
(I was on campus to check).  In any case, I don't think it would have been
pretty to watch.

Jonathan

On 10/7/06, Roy Lamberton <rstetson@capps-assoc.com> wrote:
>
> www.PurpleWildcats.com
> for Purple Reign & the NU Sports List
>
>
> Special Note - Family Obligations will pull me away from the computer this
> weekend. I won't be on the Chat but feel free to use the Purple Reign chat
> room.
>
> Pregame Edition
>
> Finally, some Football news, but there's more Northwestern Fall Sports
> action to
> follow.
>
>             All the News that Fits We Link
>            Your Index to on-line News about
>           Northwestern University Athletics
>
> FOOTBALL
>
>      Thompson ready to make some noise
>
>
> http://chicagosports.chicagotribune.com/sports/college/northwestern/cs-061006032
> 2oct06,1,7699968.story?coll=cs-college-nwestern-print
>      Young coaches, old problem -- winning
>       http://www.suntimes.com/sports/colleges/87405,CST-SPT-nu07.article
>      + Youth serves
>       http://www.dailyherald.com/sports/northwestern.asp?id=235938
>
>      But...WHAT ABOUT THE ALUMNI WHO DON'T LIVE ON CAMPUS??????
>      Northwestern-Wisconsin ESPN Broadcast Available On Campus
>       http://nusports.cstv.com/sports/m-footbl/spec-rel/100506aaa.html
>
> Next up for the Cats:
>
>      10/7@ Wisconsin Badgers
>      + Mike Lucas: Beckum, Kendricks learning to find their niche
>       http://www.madison.com/tct/mad/sports//index.php?ntid=102176
>      + Positively catching
>       http://www.madison.com/wsj/mad/sports/index.php?ntid=102160
>      + Oates: ESPN's call leaves viewers blindsided again
>       http://www.madison.com/wsj/home/column/index.php?ntid=102161
>      + Defending its honor
>       http://www.jsonline.com/story/index.aspx?id=510570
>      + Memorable games mark UW-NU rivalry
>       http://www.jsonline.com/story/index.aspx?id=510547
>      + Patience vital for Rogers
>       http://www.jsonline.com/story/index.aspx?id=510282
>      + Big Ten preview: Wisconsin vs. Northwestern
>
>
> http://www.postcrescent.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20061007/APC0201/61007058
> 2/1892/APCsports
>
>      Depth chart
>       http://www.jsonline.com/story/index.aspx?id=343818
>
>      Big 10
>
>
> RECRUITING
>
>      Blake Sorenson Metro Top 10
>       http://www.startribune.com/526/story/727330.html
>
> GOLF
>
>      Day One at the Wildcat Invitational
>       http://nusports.cstv.com/sports/w-tennis/spec-rel/100606aag.html
>
> SOCCER
>
>      Women
>      Spartans Edge Wildcats, 2-1
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From tbng at comcast.net  Sat Oct  7 16:32:36 2006
From: tbng at comcast.net (Dennis W. Brandt)
Date: Sat Oct  7 16:32:49 2006
Subject: [NU Sports] Game comment
References: <000701c6ea18$cc1ff940$6601a8c0@DAVIDXP>
	<fcb3ee270610071240u2802d1ddy506f999afd54ce8@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <000301c6ea58$1c4b8210$c402a8c0@DennisMachine>

Yuck!

From nolan at romaine.tssi.com  Sun Oct  8 20:33:03 2006
From: nolan at romaine.tssi.com (Mike Nolan)
Date: Sun Oct  8 20:33:09 2006
Subject: [NU Sports] Torre probably out in NY, Pinella in?
Message-ID: <200610090133.k991X3wC022045@romaine.tssi.com>

It appears the man who REALLY made "You're Fired!" a part of the New York 
lexicon is about to dump Joe Torre for another retread, Lou Pinella, so I 
guess Joe Girardi is headed back to Wrigley if the Cubbies ever get their
front office staffed.

Pinella and Girardi have my sympathies, both appear to be headed into what 
are likely to be no-win situations.  Any bets on who gets fired first?

The Bears are trying to prosper despite inept ownership, the Sox, Bulls and 
Black Hawks have yet to do that (beyond a fluke year in 2005 for the south 
siders and the MJ years at the Stadium.)  But the Tribune has proven to
be a worse owner than the Wrigley family for the Cubs, and 20 years ago I 
wouldn't have said that was possible!
--
Mike Nolan

From AJWDBW at aol.com  Mon Oct  9 08:38:52 2006
From: AJWDBW at aol.com (AJWDBW@aol.com)
Date: Mon Oct  9 08:38:58 2006
Subject: [NU Sports] Torre probably out in NY, Pinella in?
Message-ID: <407.483f6019.325baaec@aol.com>

There was a squib in the Washington Post that Girardi was on the short list  
for the job as manager of the Washington Nationals. 
Don Williams C55
From Hakirsch at aol.com  Mon Oct  9 09:49:17 2006
From: Hakirsch at aol.com (Hakirsch@aol.com)
Date: Mon Oct  9 09:49:23 2006
Subject: [NU Sports] Torre probably out in NY, Pinella in?
Message-ID: <c67.1e1aeee.325bbb6d@aol.com>

Well if Joe gets offers from the Cubs , Nats and Yankees, which would he pick 
? 

The Yankees would come with more money, very high exposure, an opportunity to 
manage the most storied franchise in the history of baseball, and a chance to 
win the World Series pretty quickly.  The downsides would be working for 
another  crazy ego-maniac, a pressure cooker in NYC, and no cushion for rebuilding 
time. 

 A Cubs offer would  come with the team he played the most, near his hometown 
(and NU), an opprotunity to be real hero in Chicago if he just makes it to 
the Series at some point.

The Nats would only offer him less pressure in DC and probably very little 
downside if the Nats didn't fare well.

Harry
From jeffb at hilgraeve.com  Mon Oct  9 10:27:32 2006
From: jeffb at hilgraeve.com (Jeff Beamsley)
Date: Mon Oct  9 10:27:49 2006
Subject: [NU Sports] Torre probably out in NY, Pinella in?
In-Reply-To: <200610090133.k991X3wC022045@romaine.tssi.com>
Message-ID: <039b01c6ebb7$705fb1e0$97492745@hilgraeve.com>

I think that Pinella will get fired first because George's strategy (the
best team that money can buy) doesn't work anymore.  Baseball is all about
pitching and pitching these days is all about young arms.  Young arms come
from the minor leagues. Small payroll teams have discovered they can be
competitive by investing in minor league salaries rather than major league
salaries.  As a result, smaller payroll teams are holding onto their young
talent rather than selling them to the Yankees.  Look at the twins, sox, and
tigers and you'll see that their AAA teams are successful too.

That's not to say that the Yankee's don't have a good AAA team too, they do.
But the Yankees figure they can be successful because they can afford to
purchase proven talent.  When you look at what was really the key to their
success this year, however, it was the emergence of a couple of their young
pitchers and Cano getting some playing time.

I think that Yankees will always be able to buy their way into the post
season with a great offense, but as long as we continue to see a wealth of
pitching coming out of the minor leagues and drug policies get enforced,
defense and small ball will beat teams that depend on offense to win.

Both the bears and the sox appear to have built a good foundation for future
success.  In the case of the bears, it was investing in defense.  In the
case of the White Sox it remains a strong commitment to pitching.  Unless
you have a player who dominates the league (like Jordan in his prime),
championships are lightning strikes.  Last year the Sox dominated a weak
division, this year it is the bears.  This year the AL Central was the
toughest division in baseball.  Next year the NFC North could recover too
and the bears might have a tough game every week and won't appear so
unbeatable.

The Bulls appear to be on the right track too.  They have a lot of scrappy
young kids, a young coach, and a young GM.  Unfortunately they happen to be
in a division that will likely be dominated by LeBron for as long as he
wants to stay in Cleveland.  So unless LeBron gets injured or traded, I
don't see the Bulls getting far in the post season.  That's not the fault of
ownership, other than not being in the position to draft or trade for
LeBron.

As far as hockey is concerned, living in Michigan, the Red Wings are the
Yankees of hockey and are following pretty much the same pattern.  The
nature of hockey is changing too.  It depends so much more on young fast
forwards and young talented goalies.  Don't know what the Black Hawks are
doing about that, but the Red Wings are working to get a lot younger.

Jeff







-----Original Message-----
From: nwu-sports-bounces@tssi.com [mailto:nwu-sports-bounces@tssi.com] On
Behalf Of Mike Nolan
Sent: Sunday, October 08, 2006 9:33 PM
To: nwu-sports@romaine.tssi.com
Subject: [NU Sports] Torre probably out in NY, Pinella in?

It appears the man who REALLY made "You're Fired!" a part of the New York
lexicon is about to dump Joe Torre for another retread, Lou Pinella, so I
guess Joe Girardi is headed back to Wrigley if the Cubbies ever get their
front office staffed.

Pinella and Girardi have my sympathies, both appear to be headed into what
are likely to be no-win situations.  Any bets on who gets fired first?

The Bears are trying to prosper despite inept ownership, the Sox, Bulls and
Black Hawks have yet to do that (beyond a fluke year in 2005 for the south
siders and the MJ years at the Stadium.)  But the Tribune has proven to be a
worse owner than the Wrigley family for the Cubs, and 20 years ago I
wouldn't have said that was possible!
--
Mike Nolan

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From thiegs at umn.edu  Mon Oct  9 10:48:09 2006
From: thiegs at umn.edu (Joe Thiegs)
Date: Mon Oct  9 10:48:12 2006
Subject: [NU Sports] Sorensen decommits from NU; commits to Wisconsin
Message-ID: <001f01c6ebba$523f4380$fb326580@mnfound.umn.edu>

I just heard about this today, although apparently it was news over the
weekend:  http://www.madison.com/wsj/mad/sports/index.php?ntid=102296

 

There was some discussion about it over on NU's Rivals site message boards,
where the story broke on Friday.  I'm disappointed, as I think Sorensen has
been underrated and will turn out to be a really good player.  He is an
incredible linebacker on the top-ranked large-school team in Minnesota, but
he's been playing offense too and scoring a lot (two more touchdowns on a
reception and a run Friday night).  The story is that he wanted to go to
Wisconsin originally but they weren't interested, so he took the NU offer
this summer.  Now the Badgers have come around, and Sorensen jumped ship.
Reports also indicate that other schools seem to think that means it's now
open season on McNaul too but that McNaul's verbal remains solid.

 

Salt in the wound . . . as if getting demolished on the field Saturday
wasn't enough.

 

-Joe

 

From tbng at comcast.net  Mon Oct  9 11:00:48 2006
From: tbng at comcast.net (Dennis W. Brandt)
Date: Mon Oct  9 11:01:04 2006
Subject: [NU Sports] Damn Yankees!
References: <039b01c6ebb7$705fb1e0$97492745@hilgraeve.com>
Message-ID: <000e01c6ebbc$1656e3d0$c402a8c0@DennisMachine>

When did the New York Yankees start wearing purple?  Did the Wildcats play a 
football game last Saturday?  (Some say no and that they may not for the 
rest of the season.)  As far as baseball playoffs go, GO TIGERS!  They're 
perenniel underdogs.

If the Yankees are the most storied baseball team in history, they are also 
the most hated, and I'm on top of that list (along with the Dallas Cowboys 
in football).  Watching them lose is a joy.  What unmitigated arrogance on 
Frankensteinbrenner's part even to consider firing a manager who has a team 
in the playoffs year after year, a manager who would be gobbled up at any 
price by another team the moment he becomes free to negotiate.  On the other 
hand, I can't hate the Mets.  I still vividly recall 1962 when they were so 
eminently loveable and Casey sat in his rocking chair asking, "Can anybody 
here play this game?"  After this past season, though, I could learn.  Next 
year, the Phillies win the division.  Remember that you read it here first. 

From neil.kaplan at carsdirect.com  Mon Oct  9 11:19:58 2006
From: neil.kaplan at carsdirect.com (Kaplan, Neil)
Date: Mon Oct  9 11:20:05 2006
Subject: [NU Sports] Congratulations!
Message-ID: <668E536337C29445A4EEEA63FC907DD21DBFD6@cdlaex02.carsdirect.win>



I wanted to let my list brethren know that our esteemed listmate and award
winning journalist Alan Abrahamson, has joined NBC Sports and NBCsports.com,
after 17 distinguished years at the Los Angeles Times.  We can look forward
to seeing Alan's brand of investigative reporting throughout NBC's broadcast
vehicles and internet site.  NBCsports.com has recently relaunched and Alan
is the keystone of their new initiatives.  Bookmark the site and return to
it often.

Alan has had several recent appearances on NBC Nightly News and we look
forward to seeing him often, especially in the run up to the 2008 Olympics.
As many of you know, Alan, by most accounts, is the world's leading
journalist on all things Olympic.  Those of you with an eye for detail will
also recall his frequent tv appearances during the last two Olympic games -
wearing Wildcat gear.

I am proud to have Alan as one of my best friends.  Please join me in
congratulating Alan on his exciting new role.

Neil K.
From rstetson at capps-assoc.com  Mon Oct  9 11:35:50 2006
From: rstetson at capps-assoc.com (Roy Lamberton)
Date: Mon Oct  9 11:35:57 2006
Subject: [NU Sports] Congratulations!
In-Reply-To: <668E536337C29445A4EEEA63FC907DD21DBFD6@cdlaex02.carsdirect.win>
Message-ID: <000701c6ebc0$fb40e460$6601a8c0@DAVIDXP>

His first story, I think, ran today 

http://www.nbcsports.com/nfl/146534/detail.html


About the Chargers, but didn't mention Luis C

rsl

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> -----Original Message-----
> From: nwu-sports-bounces@tssi.com 
> [mailto:nwu-sports-bounces@tssi.com] On Behalf Of Kaplan, Neil
> Sent: Monday, October 09, 2006 12:20 PM
> To: nwu-sports@romaine.tssi.com
> Subject: [NU Sports] Congratulations!
> 
> 
> 
> 
> I wanted to let my list brethren know that our esteemed 
> listmate and award winning journalist Alan Abrahamson, has 
> joined NBC Sports and NBCsports.com, after 17 distinguished 
> years at the Los Angeles Times.  We can look forward to 
> seeing Alan's brand of investigative reporting throughout 
> NBC's broadcast vehicles and internet site.  NBCsports.com 
> has recently relaunched and Alan is the keystone of their new 
> initiatives.  Bookmark the site and return to it often.
> 
> Alan has had several recent appearances on NBC Nightly News 
> and we look forward to seeing him often, especially in the 
> run up to the 2008 Olympics. As many of you know, Alan, by 
> most accounts, is the world's leading journalist on all 
> things Olympic.  Those of you with an eye for detail will 
> also recall his frequent tv appearances during the last two 
> Olympic games - wearing Wildcat gear.
> 
> I am proud to have Alan as one of my best friends.  Please 
> join me in congratulating Alan on his exciting new role.
> 
> Neil K.
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From artmiller1 at hotmail.com  Mon Oct  9 12:00:50 2006
From: artmiller1 at hotmail.com (Arthur Miller)
Date: Mon Oct  9 12:01:02 2006
Subject: [NU Sports] Torre probably out in NY, Pinella in?
In-Reply-To: <039b01c6ebb7$705fb1e0$97492745@hilgraeve.com>
Message-ID: <BAY106-DAV97DB08294F0B012C242FC8A160@phx.gbl>

I have been hearing this a lot lately from the commentators, but I don't get
it.  The line of reasoning seems to be that the Yankees' strategy is good
enough to win 97 games in the regular season (best in the AL), but somehow
in the postseason it becomes a flawed approach?

Perhaps a more reasonable answer is this:  The postseason series format
(especially the best-of-5 Division Series) is simply too small a sample
space for the better team to consistently emerge victorious.  In other
words, it's a roll of the dice.  The fact that the Yankees haven't won a WS
in 6 years after winning 3 of 4 could largely be due to random chance, not a
structural problem with the team makeup, lack of motivation, poor managerial
decisions, or all the other drama-tinged reasons we like to use to explain
sports outcomes.

Steinbrenner and most of the sports journalism world seem to ignore this
possibility.  IMHO, if you get your team to the postseason after a grueling
162-game season, you've done nearly all that you can.  After that, fate
takes over...hopefully, your team will hit a hot streak (like the Sox last
year), but in baseball these things are hard to control.

But you're right in that the Yankees are getting their wins the easy way, by
buying proven veterans.  Alas, the easy way is also the most expensive.  One
of these years, Steinbrenner is going to wise up and ask his staff why their
ROI is so poor, i.e. why they have to pay over twice as much per win as any
other team out there.  If/when he gets tired of overpaying for wins, he'll
start building teams the hard way: good drafts and a strong farm system,
coupled with patience and (gasp) acceptance of a sub-.500 season now and
then.

Just my 2 cents.  And trust me, I'm no Yankees fan.

Art Miller

-----Original Message-----
From: nwu-sports-bounces@tssi.com [mailto:nwu-sports-bounces@tssi.com] On
Behalf Of Jeff Beamsley
Sent: Monday, October 09, 2006 10:28 AM
To: nwu-sports@romaine.tssi.com
Subject: RE: [NU Sports] Torre probably out in NY, Pinella in?

I think that Pinella will get fired first because George's strategy (the
best team that money can buy) doesn't work anymore.  Baseball is all about
pitching and pitching these days is all about young arms.  Young arms come
from the minor leagues. Small payroll teams have discovered they can be
competitive by investing in minor league salaries rather than major league
salaries.  As a result, smaller payroll teams are holding onto their young
talent rather than selling them to the Yankees.  Look at the twins, sox, and
tigers and you'll see that their AAA teams are successful too.
[...]

I think that Yankees will always be able to buy their way into the post
season with a great offense, but as long as we continue to see a wealth of
pitching coming out of the minor leagues and drug policies get enforced,
defense and small ball will beat teams that depend on offense to win.
[...]

Jeff







-----Original Message-----
From: nwu-sports-bounces@tssi.com [mailto:nwu-sports-bounces@tssi.com] On
Behalf Of Mike Nolan
Sent: Sunday, October 08, 2006 9:33 PM
To: nwu-sports@romaine.tssi.com
Subject: [NU Sports] Torre probably out in NY, Pinella in?

It appears the man who REALLY made "You're Fired!" a part of the New York
lexicon is about to dump Joe Torre for another retread, Lou Pinella, so I
guess Joe Girardi is headed back to Wrigley if the Cubbies ever get their
front office staffed.

Pinella and Girardi have my sympathies, both appear to be headed into what
are likely to be no-win situations.  Any bets on who gets fired first?

The Bears are trying to prosper despite inept ownership, the Sox, Bulls and
Black Hawks have yet to do that (beyond a fluke year in 2005 for the south
siders and the MJ years at the Stadium.)  But the Tribune has proven to be a
worse owner than the Wrigley family for the Cubs, and 20 years ago I
wouldn't have said that was possible!
--
Mike Nolan

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From rstetson at capps-assoc.com  Mon Oct  9 12:06:22 2006
From: rstetson at capps-assoc.com (Roy Lamberton)
Date: Mon Oct  9 12:06:36 2006
Subject: [NU Sports] NU Sports News Digest for 10/9
Message-ID: <000801c6ebc5$3fd360e0$6601a8c0@DAVIDXP>

www.PurpleWildcats.com
for Purple Reign & the NU Sports List

Weekend Wrapup Edition

A drubbing at Camp Randall for the Northwestern Wildcats.


       All the News that Fits We Link
      Your Index to on-line News about
     Northwestern University Athletics

FOOTBALL

     Northwestern Falls At Wisconsin
      http://nusports.cstv.com/sports/m-footbl/recaps/100706aaa.html 
     + NU troubles adding up
 
http://chicagosports.chicagotribune.com/sports/college/northwestern/cs-061007nu,
1,776323.story?coll=cs-college-headlines 
     + Game not only loss for NU
 
http://chicagosports.chicagotribune.com/sports/college/northwestern/cs-061007nub
its,1,1960667.story?coll=cs-college-headlines 
     + Cats badgered into submission
      http://www.suntimes.com/sports/colleges/88011,CST-SPT-nu08.article 
     + Return man McManis ray of light for Wildcats
      http://www.suntimes.com/sports/colleges/88010,CST-SPT-nunt08.article 
     + 'Hopefully This is Rock Bottom'
 
http://www.dailynorthwestern.com/news/2006/10/09/Sports/hopefully.This.Is.Rock.B
ottom.football-2338820.shtml 
     + Bruising Hill Punishes Porous Defense
 
http://www.dailynorthwestern.com/news/2006/10/09/Sports/Bruising.Hill.Punishes.P
orous.Defense.football-2338829.shtml 
     + Kalan: No Clich?s Necessary: Cats Need to Get Going
 
http://www.dailynorthwestern.com/news/2006/10/09/Sports/No.Clichs.Necessary.Cats
.Need.To.Get.Going-2338841.shtml 
     + Third-Rate Third Quarter Lets Game Slip Away
 
http://www.dailynorthwestern.com/news/2006/10/09/Sports/ThirdRate.Third.Quarter.
Lets.Game.Slip.Away.football-2338882.shtml 
     + Hill piles up yards, highlight-film hits for Wisconsin
      http://www.dailyherald.com/sports/northwestern.asp?id=236298 
     + Youth serves
      http://www.dailyherald.com/sports/northwestern.asp?id=235938 
     + Scary movie II
      http://www.dailyherald.com/sports/northwestern.asp?id=236329 
     + Despite losses, Northwestern trying to remain upbeat [AP]
 
http://news.google.com/news/url?sa=t&ct=us/0-0&fp=452a210c95973469&ei=u0IqReWbM4
GaHP2N6YIM&url=http%3A//www.sportingnews.com/yourturn/viewtopic.php%3Ft%3D136215
&cid=1110047987 
     + Random Thoughts:"Revenge on the Nerds"?
      http://northwestern.scout.com/2/577352.html 

     Tyrell Sutton Nowhere to go but up for Northwestern
      http://www.dailysouthtown.com/sports/89207,2SD4-09.article 
     + Sutton: Mental errors piling up
 
http://chicagosports.chicagotribune.com/sports/college/northwestern/cs-061009col
footnu,1,5660633.htmlstory?coll=cs-college-nwestern-print 

     Wisconsin Badgers
     + Badgers Tame Wildcats
      http://story.scout.com/a.z?s=193&p=2&c=576865 
     + Revenge on the Nerds
      http://badgerherald.com/sports/2006/10/09/revenge_on_the_nerds.php 
     + Strong finish propels UW past Wildcats
 
http://www.dailycardinal.com/sports/strong-finish-propels-uw-past-wildcats.html 
     + Relaxed attitude helps Badgers defeat Northwestern
 
http://www.dailycardinal.com/sports/relaxed-attitude-helps-badgers-defeat-northw
estern.html 
     + Bielema's crew having a blast
      http://www.madison.com/tct/sports/index.php?ntid=102228 
     + It's all fun and games for Badgers
      http://www.madison.com/wsj/mad/sports/index.php?ntid=102287 
     + Badgers overcome errors
      http://www.jsonline.com/story/index.aspx?id=510800 
     + UW 41, Northwestern 9
      http://www.jsonline.com/story/index.aspx?id=510655 

     Stanley can't seem to find his way
      http://www.jsonline.com/story/index.aspx?id=510700 

Next up for the Cats:

     10/14 Purdue Boilermakers [Family Weekend]
     Iowa Splatters Purdue
      http://www.post-trib.com/sports/88450,Purwho.article 
     + Undersized Boilermakers losing up front
 
http://www.boilerstation.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20061009/SPORTS020101/61
0090328/1122/BOILER 
     + Hawkeye humiliation
 
http://www.boilerstation.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20061008/SPORTS020101/61
0080354/1122/BOILER 
     + Painter's mediocre day disappoints
 
http://www.boilerstation.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20061008/SPORTS020101/61
0080349/1122/BOILER 
     + Early deficit shuts down running game
 
http://www.boilerstation.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20061008/SPORTS020101/61
0080348/1122/BOILER 
     + Hawkeyes manhandle defensive line
 
http://www.boilerstation.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20061008/SPORTS020101/61
0080350/1122/BOILER 
     + Summers resolves to improve
 
http://www.boilerstation.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20061008/SPORTS020101/61
0080347/1122/BOILER 
     + Grading the Boilermakers
 
http://www.boilerstation.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20061008/SPORTS020101/61
0080345/1122/BOILER 
     + Tiller sees progress from Boilers
 
http://www.boilerstation.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20061007/COLUMNISTS09/61
0070322/1122/BOILER 
     + Coach calls quarterback's performance 'very average' in defeat
 
http://www.indystar.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20061009/SPORTS06/610090413/1
004/SPORTS 
     + UW cleans up its sloppy play
 
http://www.postcrescent.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20061007/APC02/61007017/1
892http://www.postcrescent.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20061007/APC02/6100701
7/1892 
     + Brett Christopherson Badgers game means little when a friend goes missing
 
http://www.postcrescent.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20061008/APC0201/61008052
8/1010 
     + Badgers figure out how to stop stopping themselves
 
http://www.postcrescent.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20061008/APC0201/61008052
5/1010 

     Big 10
     Late-game Heroics, Solid Rushing Games Highlight Week 3 of Big Ten Football
      http://bigten.cstv.com/sports/m-footbl/spec-rel/100706aaa.html 

RECRUITING

     Blake Sorenson Welcome the newest Badger - Blake Sorensen
      http://wisconsin.scout.com/2/577185.html 

     NU Recruit Update - 10/9
      http://northwestern.scout.com/2/577388.html 

FENCING

     'Cats Dominate Burton Open
      http://nusports.cstv.com/sports/w-fenc/recaps/100806aab.html 

FIELD HOCKEY

     Iowa Outlasts Wildcats 3-1
      http://nusports.cstv.com/sports/w-fieldh/recaps/100806aaa.html 
     + Field Hockey bests Northwestern
 
http://www.hawkcentral.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20061009/HAWKS/610090314/1
053/HAWKS 
     + Hawkeyes Stroll Past Northwestern
      http://www.cstv.com/sports/w-fieldh/stories/100806aax.html 

GOLF

     Men
     'Cats Fight to Stay in Battle at Windon Memorial Classic
      http://nusports.cstv.com/sports/m-golf/recaps/100806aac.html 
     + 'Cats Come Close To Leader In Sunday Rounds
 
http://www.dailynorthwestern.com/news/2006/10/09/Sports/cats-Come.Close.To.Leade
r.In.Sunday.Rounds.mens.Golf-2338765.shtml 
     + Live Scoring
      http://www.golfstatresults.com//public/index.cfm?tournament_id=811 

     Women
     No. 17 Wildcats Take Home Pair of Titles at Lady Paladin
      http://nusports.cstv.com/sports/w-golf/recaps/100806aaa.html 
     + No. 17 'Cats Cruising at Lady Paladin
      http://nusports.cstv.com/sports/w-golf/recaps/100706aab.html 

SOCCER

     Men
     No. 14 Indiana Edges 'Cats, 1-0
      http://nusports.cstv.com/sports/m-soccer/recaps/100706aaa.html 

     Women
     'Cats and Wolverines Battle to Scoreless Tie
      http://nusports.cstv.com/sports/w-soccer/spec-rel/100806aaa.html 

TENNIS

     Women
     Day Three at the Wildcat Invitational
      http://nusports.cstv.com/sports/w-tennis/spec-rel/100806aab.html 
     + Day Two at the Wildcat Invitational
      http://nusports.cstv.com/sports/w-tennis/spec-rel/100706aaa.html 
     + Day One at the Wildcat Invitational
      http://nusports.cstv.com/sports/w-tennis/spec-rel/100606aag.html 

VOLLEYBALL

     Northwestern Wins Wild Match at Michigan State, 3-2
      http://nusports.cstv.com/sports/w-volley/recaps/100706aab.html 

MISCELLANY

     Northwestern Fall Sports Weekly Release #6 in PDF Format
      http://www.fansonly.com/photos/schools/nw/genrel/auto_pdf/0607fallWR6.pdf 
     Knockout: NU Students Take A Shot At Boxing
 
http://www.dailynorthwestern.com/news/2006/10/09/Campus/Knockout.Nu.Students.Tak
e.A.Shot.At.Boxing-2339094.shtml 
     Colleges play, public pays
 
http://www.indystar.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20060330/SPORTS/603300460/100
4/SPORTS 
     Colbert reporting back to NU for homecoming
      http://www.suntimes.com/news/metro/87453,CST-NWS-COLBERT07.article 
     Articles/relax.htm
      http://www.hurricanefootball.org/Articles/relax.htm 
     Football mixes big and small braced with a healthy caution
 
http://www.chicagotribune.com/sports/cs-0610080258oct08,0,6018571.story?coll=cs-
hs-football-print 

Alumni

     Joe Girardi Ex-Cub showing his true colors
 
http://www.chicagotribune.com/sports/baseball/cubs/cs-061008cubs,1,4477248.story
?coll=chi-sportstop-hed 
     + Torre?s future in doubt?
 
http://www.nwherald.com/articles/2006/10/09/sports/mlb/doc452a240d4ac41850204451
.txt 
     + For time being, it appears pinstripes might suit Piniella
 
http://www.indystar.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20061009/SPORTS/610090363/100
4/SPORTS 

     Luis Castillo Chargers defense forces the issue
      http://chargers.scout.com/2/577272.html 
     + Chargers powder blues pack punch
      http://chargers.scout.com/2/577263.html 




     PGA
     Luke Donald
     Nationwide Tour h Mark Christopher Charity Classic
      http://www.pgatour.com/tournaments/h046 
     Jess Daley - Full Scorecard
      http://www.pgatour.com/players/scorecard/285331/h046/2006 
     Tom Johnson - Full Scorecard
      http://www.pgatour.com/players/scorecard/466839/h046/2006 

   2006 Football Opponents

     10/21 Michigan State Spartans 11 AM [HC]
     10/28 @ Michigan Wolverines 11 AM ABC/ESPN
     Michigan best in the state
      http://www.suntimes.com/sports/colleges/88396,CST-SPT-mich08.article 

     11/4 @ Iowa Hawkeyes
     Hawkeyes bounce back big
      http://www.suntimes.com/sports/colleges/88397,CST-SPT-iowa08.article 
     11/11 Ohio State [Lasalle Bank Day]
     Buckeyes keep on rolling
      http://www.suntimes.com/sports/colleges/88404,CST-SPT-osu08.article 
     11/18 Illinois Fighting Illini [Senior Day]
     Illini quickly run out of juice
      http://www.suntimes.com/sports/colleges/88139,CST-SPT-ill08.article 
     + Zook defends decision to go for two early
      http://www.suntimes.com/sports/colleges/88140,CST-SPT-illnt08.article 
     + College Football: Inside the Illini
      http://www.dailysouthtown.com/sports/89202,1SD9-09.article 

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From johnadeg at bellatlantic.net  Mon Oct  9 12:54:21 2006
From: johnadeg at bellatlantic.net (John A. DeGroat)
Date: Mon Oct  9 12:54:27 2006
Subject: [NU Sports] Torre probably out in NY, Pinella in?
In-Reply-To: <BAY106-DAV97DB08294F0B012C242FC8A160@phx.gbl>
References: <BAY106-DAV97DB08294F0B012C242FC8A160@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <452A8CCD.1000803@bellatlantic.net>

In a short series, playoff or world series, good pitching wins out.  My 
Tigers' hitting was not much better than mediocre but they had  better 
pitching than the other teams, never mind that they blew the last series 
against the Royals.  The Yankees pitching wasn't much better if at all 
compared to other teams, but over a long season their superior hitting 
compensated for their so-so pitching.That's my opinion at least

John DeGroat

Arthur Miller wrote:

>I have been hearing this a lot lately from the commentators, but I don't get
>it.  The line of reasoning seems to be that the Yankees' strategy is good
>enough to win 97 games in the regular season (best in the AL), but somehow
>in the postseason it becomes a flawed approach?
>
>Perhaps a more reasonable answer is this:  The postseason series format
>(especially the best-of-5 Division Series) is simply too small a sample
>space for the better team to consistently emerge victorious.  In other
>words, it's a roll of the dice.  The fact that the Yankees haven't won a WS
>in 6 years after winning 3 of 4 could largely be due to random chance, not a
>structural problem with the team makeup, lack of motivation, poor managerial
>decisions, or all the other drama-tinged reasons we like to use to explain
>sports outcomes.
>
>Steinbrenner and most of the sports journalism world seem to ignore this
>possibility.  IMHO, if you get your team to the postseason after a grueling
>162-game season, you've done nearly all that you can.  After that, fate
>takes over...hopefully, your team will hit a hot streak (like the Sox last
>year), but in baseball these things are hard to control.
>
>But you're right in that the Yankees are getting their wins the easy way, by
>buying proven veterans.  Alas, the easy way is also the most expensive.  One
>of these years, Steinbrenner is going to wise up and ask his staff why their
>ROI is so poor, i.e. why they have to pay over twice as much per win as any
>other team out there.  If/when he gets tired of overpaying for wins, he'll
>start building teams the hard way: good drafts and a strong farm system,
>coupled with patience and (gasp) acceptance of a sub-.500 season now and
>then.
>
>Just my 2 cents.  And trust me, I'm no Yankees fan.
>
>Art Miller
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: nwu-sports-bounces@tssi.com [mailto:nwu-sports-bounces@tssi.com] On
>Behalf Of Jeff Beamsley
>Sent: Monday, October 09, 2006 10:28 AM
>To: nwu-sports@romaine.tssi.com
>Subject: RE: [NU Sports] Torre probably out in NY, Pinella in?
>
>I think that Pinella will get fired first because George's strategy (the
>best team that money can buy) doesn't work anymore.  Baseball is all about
>pitching and pitching these days is all about young arms.  Young arms come
>from the minor leagues. Small payroll teams have discovered they can be
>competitive by investing in minor league salaries rather than major league
>salaries.  As a result, smaller payroll teams are holding onto their young
>talent rather than selling them to the Yankees.  Look at the twins, sox, and
>tigers and you'll see that their AAA teams are successful too.
>[...]
>
>I think that Yankees will always be able to buy their way into the post
>season with a great offense, but as long as we continue to see a wealth of
>pitching coming out of the minor leagues and drug policies get enforced,
>defense and small ball will beat teams that depend on offense to win.
>[...]
>
>Jeff
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: nwu-sports-bounces@tssi.com [mailto:nwu-sports-bounces@tssi.com] On
>Behalf Of Mike Nolan
>Sent: Sunday, October 08, 2006 9:33 PM
>To: nwu-sports@romaine.tssi.com
>Subject: [NU Sports] Torre probably out in NY, Pinella in?
>
>It appears the man who REALLY made "You're Fired!" a part of the New York
>lexicon is about to dump Joe Torre for another retread, Lou Pinella, so I
>guess Joe Girardi is headed back to Wrigley if the Cubbies ever get their
>front office staffed.
>
>Pinella and Girardi have my sympathies, both appear to be headed into what
>are likely to be no-win situations.  Any bets on who gets fired first?
>
>The Bears are trying to prosper despite inept ownership, the Sox, Bulls and
>Black Hawks have yet to do that (beyond a fluke year in 2005 for the south
>siders and the MJ years at the Stadium.)  But the Tribune has proven to be a
>worse owner than the Wrigley family for the Cubs, and 20 years ago I
>wouldn't have said that was possible!
>--
>Mike Nolan
>
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From rstetson at capps-assoc.com  Mon Oct  9 13:04:57 2006
From: rstetson at capps-assoc.com (Roy Lamberton)
Date: Mon Oct  9 13:05:00 2006
Subject: [NU Sports] Torre probably out in NY, Pinella in?
In-Reply-To: <452A8CCD.1000803@bellatlantic.net>
Message-ID: <000101c6ebcd$6e538c30$6601a8c0@DAVIDXP>

Rex Barney always said that Baseball was Pitching and Defense

And of course the old maxim about Defense wins championships.


The Red Sox are about to dump all their "offense" to try to find more Offense.

They're probably going to let Mark Loretta go, even though he was part of the
team that played such good defense early in the season and batted just under
.300 for the season.

[or is that why the Red Sox never make it thru the post season, except once?]

rsl

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> -----Original Message-----
> From: nwu-sports-bounces@tssi.com 
> [mailto:nwu-sports-bounces@tssi.com] On Behalf Of John A. DeGroat
> Sent: Monday, October 09, 2006 1:54 PM
> To: Arthur Miller
> Cc: nwu-sports@romaine.tssi.com
> Subject: Re: [NU Sports] Torre probably out in NY, Pinella in?
> 
> 
> In a short series, playoff or world series, good pitching 
> wins out.  My 
> Tigers' hitting was not much better than mediocre but they 
> had  better 
> pitching than the other teams, never mind that they blew the 
> last series 
> against the Royals.  The Yankees pitching wasn't much better 
> if at all 
> compared to other teams, but over a long season their 
> superior hitting 
> compensated for their so-so pitching.That's my opinion at least
> 
> John DeGroat
> 
> Arthur Miller wrote:
> 
> >I have been hearing this a lot lately from the commentators, but I 
> >don't get it.  The line of reasoning seems to be that the Yankees' 
> >strategy is good enough to win 97 games in the regular 
> season (best in 
> >the AL), but somehow in the postseason it becomes a flawed approach?
> >
> >Perhaps a more reasonable answer is this:  The postseason 
> series format 
> >(especially the best-of-5 Division Series) is simply too 
> small a sample 
> >space for the better team to consistently emerge victorious. 
>  In other 
> >words, it's a roll of the dice.  The fact that the Yankees 
> haven't won 
> >a WS in 6 years after winning 3 of 4 could largely be due to random 
> >chance, not a structural problem with the team makeup, lack of 
> >motivation, poor managerial decisions, or all the other drama-tinged 
> >reasons we like to use to explain sports outcomes.
> >
> >Steinbrenner and most of the sports journalism world seem to ignore 
> >this possibility.  IMHO, if you get your team to the 
> postseason after a 
> >grueling 162-game season, you've done nearly all that you 
> can.  After 
> >that, fate takes over...hopefully, your team will hit a hot streak 
> >(like the Sox last year), but in baseball these things are hard to 
> >control.
> >
> >But you're right in that the Yankees are getting their wins the easy 
> >way, by buying proven veterans.  Alas, the easy way is also the most 
> >expensive.  One of these years, Steinbrenner is going to wise up and 
> >ask his staff why their ROI is so poor, i.e. why they have 
> to pay over 
> >twice as much per win as any other team out there.  If/when he gets 
> >tired of overpaying for wins, he'll start building teams the 
> hard way: 
> >good drafts and a strong farm system, coupled with patience 
> and (gasp) 
> >acceptance of a sub-.500 season now and then.
> >
> >Just my 2 cents.  And trust me, I'm no Yankees fan.
> >
> >Art Miller
> >
> >-----Original Message-----
> >From: nwu-sports-bounces@tssi.com 
> [mailto:nwu-sports-bounces@tssi.com] 
> >On Behalf Of Jeff Beamsley
> >Sent: Monday, October 09, 2006 10:28 AM
> >To: nwu-sports@romaine.tssi.com
> >Subject: RE: [NU Sports] Torre probably out in NY, Pinella in?
> >
> >I think that Pinella will get fired first because George's strategy 
> >(the best team that money can buy) doesn't work anymore.  
> Baseball is 
> >all about pitching and pitching these days is all about young arms.  
> >Young arms come from the minor leagues. Small payroll teams have 
> >discovered they can be competitive by investing in minor league 
> >salaries rather than major league salaries.  As a result, smaller 
> >payroll teams are holding onto their young talent rather 
> than selling 
> >them to the Yankees.  Look at the twins, sox, and tigers and 
> you'll see 
> >that their AAA teams are successful too. [...]
> >
> >I think that Yankees will always be able to buy their way 
> into the post 
> >season with a great offense, but as long as we continue to 
> see a wealth 
> >of pitching coming out of the minor leagues and drug policies get 
> >enforced, defense and small ball will beat teams that depend 
> on offense 
> >to win. [...]
> >
> >Jeff
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >-----Original Message-----
> >From: nwu-sports-bounces@tssi.com 
> [mailto:nwu-sports-bounces@tssi.com] 
> >On Behalf Of Mike Nolan
> >Sent: Sunday, October 08, 2006 9:33 PM
> >To: nwu-sports@romaine.tssi.com
> >Subject: [NU Sports] Torre probably out in NY, Pinella in?
> >
> >It appears the man who REALLY made "You're Fired!" a part of the New 
> >York lexicon is about to dump Joe Torre for another retread, Lou 
> >Pinella, so I guess Joe Girardi is headed back to Wrigley if the 
> >Cubbies ever get their front office staffed.
> >
> >Pinella and Girardi have my sympathies, both appear to be 
> headed into 
> >what are likely to be no-win situations.  Any bets on who gets fired 
> >first?
> >
> >The Bears are trying to prosper despite inept ownership, the 
> Sox, Bulls 
> >and Black Hawks have yet to do that (beyond a fluke year in 2005 for 
> >the south siders and the MJ years at the Stadium.)  But the 
> Tribune has 
> >proven to be a worse owner than the Wrigley family for the 
> Cubs, and 20 
> >years ago I wouldn't have said that was possible!
> >--
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From alan.abrahamson at nbcuni.com  Mon Oct  9 13:09:53 2006
From: alan.abrahamson at nbcuni.com (Abrahamson, Alan (NBC Universal))
Date: Mon Oct  9 13:10:13 2006
Subject: FW: [NU Sports] Congratulations!
Message-ID: <33C4F11DF8639640A51C79CB484166FFA413A6@RKFMLVEM02.e2k.ad.ge.com>

 
Thanks to Neil for the nice note. I am also proud to count Neil among
one of my best friends. You should see the two of us at the back of the
synagogue, wondering whether to check Wildcat scores or once again pay
attention to what's going on around us; I am sure we are making our
wives and the rabbi proud. (FYI Neil's oldest son, Max, was just Bar
Mitzvah'd and did an outstanding job.)  At any rate ...
 Thanks to Roy as well for the link. The Charger game is actually not my
first story. I've been at the website for about a month. Those of you
who (understandably) have not been dedicated readers missed, for
instance, a lengthy piece on the 1966 Notre Dame-Michigan State 10-10
classic tie; a very interesting event to recount. If any of you have
heard about Bears defensive back Ricky Manning Jr.'s recent court
appearance in LA, that story was mine, too. List favorite Jay Marriotti
referred to it in his Sunday column in the Sun-Times.
 I hope I can ask each of you to check the site out -- again, it's
www.nbcsports.com. It's still very much a work in progress but we have
lots of interesting stuff, with more to come as the NBA, etc., gets
going. And of course the Olympics; the next Summer Games are coming up
in 2008, in Beijing.
 A note or two about the game last night. I deliberately wore a
Northwestern sweatshirt into the locker rooms. Luis and I had a great
chat. Just didn't find a suitable place for his comments in the story. I
regrettably did not run into Trai Essex on the Steeler side.
 A couple weeks ago, I ran into Barry Cofield in the Giants locker room.
There wasn't much time or inclination for much beyond pleasantries,
however. That was the week the Seahawks pasted the Giants.
 Warm regards to all of you and best wishes for a happy and healthy 5767
(hey, Neil, see -- now we can tell the rabbi we've been paying
attention) - Alan
 
  

-----Original Message-----
From: nwu-sports-bounces@tssi.com [mailto:nwu-sports-bounces@tssi.com]
On Behalf Of Roy Lamberton
Sent: Monday, October 09, 2006 9:36 AM
To: 'Kaplan, Neil'; nwu-sports@romaine.tssi.com
Subject: RE: [NU Sports] Congratulations!

His first story, I think, ran today 

http://www.nbcsports.com/nfl/146534/detail.html


About the Chargers, but didn't mention Luis C

rsl

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> -----Original Message-----
> From: nwu-sports-bounces@tssi.com
> [mailto:nwu-sports-bounces@tssi.com] On Behalf Of Kaplan, Neil
> Sent: Monday, October 09, 2006 12:20 PM
> To: nwu-sports@romaine.tssi.com
> Subject: [NU Sports] Congratulations!
> 
> 
> 
> 
> I wanted to let my list brethren know that our esteemed listmate and 
> award winning journalist Alan Abrahamson, has joined NBC Sports and 
> NBCsports.com, after 17 distinguished years at the Los Angeles Times.
> We can look forward to seeing Alan's brand of investigative reporting 
> throughout NBC's broadcast vehicles and internet site.  NBCsports.com 
> has recently relaunched and Alan is the keystone of their new 
> initiatives.  Bookmark the site and return to it often.
> 
> Alan has had several recent appearances on NBC Nightly News and we 
> look forward to seeing him often, especially in the run up to the 2008

> Olympics. As many of you know, Alan, by most accounts, is the world's 
> leading journalist on all things Olympic.  Those of you with an eye 
> for detail will also recall his frequent tv appearances during the 
> last two Olympic games - wearing Wildcat gear.
> 
> I am proud to have Alan as one of my best friends.  Please join me in 
> congratulating Alan on his exciting new role.
> 
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From Hakirsch at aol.com  Mon Oct  9 13:11:26 2006
From: Hakirsch at aol.com (Hakirsch@aol.com)
Date: Mon Oct  9 13:11:43 2006
Subject: [NU Sports] Torre probably out in NY, Pinella in?
Message-ID: <502.7880344.325beace@aol.com>

In a message dated 10/9/2006 11:05:51 AM Pacific Daylight Time, 
rstetson@capps-assoc.com writes:

> Rex Barney always said that Baseball was Pitching and Defense
> 
> And of course the old maxim about Defense wins championships.
> 
> 
> The Red Sox are about to dump all their "offense" to try to find more 
> Offense.
> 
> They're probably going to let Mark Loretta go, even though he was part of 
> the
> team that played such good defense early in the season and batted just under
> .300 for the season.
> 
> [or is that why the Red Sox never make it thru the post season, except 
> once?]
> 
> rsl
> 

Actually they have made it  "thru the post season" 6 times , but only once in 
recent times probably  because of their lack of pitching ,defense and ability 
to employ small ball when needed, through the years--I will not be happy if 
they let Loretta go--embodies the reason why the Sox  had the best defensive 
infield in the league this year, and hate to not have a  fellow alum to doubly 
root for

Harry
From johnadeg at bellatlantic.net  Mon Oct  9 13:31:14 2006
From: johnadeg at bellatlantic.net (John A. DeGroat)
Date: Mon Oct  9 13:31:52 2006
Subject: [NU Sports] espn360
Message-ID: <452A9572.4000901@bellatlantic.net>

I watched the NU-Wisconsin game on ESPN360 and except for the horrible 
results, I thought that the concept of watching a game on the Internet 
was interesting.  The only advertising were the goofy ESPN ads that I 
think are great.  I came to the conclusion that ESPN360 is an experiment 
to see if they can gin up enough interest to convince other ISPs to 
carry ESPN360.   It seems to me that to succeed they will have to be 
able to create enough advertising to make it pay.  ESPN360 also carries 
reruns of some of their programs that you can see on ESPN. I would like 
to see it succeed because the ESPN Game Plan can't carry all of the 
games.  Did anyone else watch the  game on ESPN 360 an if so what were 
your reactions to it - not the game-the broadcast

John DeGroat

From jonathanwhodges at gmail.com  Mon Oct  9 13:55:54 2006
From: jonathanwhodges at gmail.com (Jonathan Hodges)
Date: Mon Oct  9 13:55:55 2006
Subject: [NU Sports] espn360
In-Reply-To: <452A9572.4000901@bellatlantic.net>
References: <452A9572.4000901@bellatlantic.net>
Message-ID: <fcb3ee270610091155v599be6d0j8bf58198cda782a7@mail.gmail.com>

Well some of us attempted to go back on campus in order to watch (it was
announced on Friday that ESPN360 would be available on the NU campus), but
indeed it was not available.  From the sounds of it there was a goof on NU's
end (they gave ESPN the wrong range of IP addresses), so I can't say
anything regarding ESPN360's handling of the game except for the disgust at
their revenue strategy.

Also note that you can get GamePlan online, which I have personally never
done.  If anyone has seen GamePlan games online I would like to know how
that compares with the regular TV or ESPN360, especially since you can view
archived games for the week that you paid for, which is nice since you can't
record easily from the internet.

Since ESPN360 is obviously does not have any technological limitations
preventing it from reaching a wider audience I would prefer to see it go to
a purely PPV model if they insist on charging for live content.  I would
have been more than willing to pay $10 to view the game, as would many
others.  Hopefully they adjust their distribution strategy, especially if
more games will be included on this in coming seasons.  We'll have to see
what the Big Ten plans to do once they launch their own network - if they
will only televise games on TV or will also use the internet.

Jonathan


On 10/9/06, John A. DeGroat <johnadeg@bellatlantic.net> wrote:
>
> I watched the NU-Wisconsin game on ESPN360 and except for the horrible
> results, I thought that the concept of watching a game on the Internet
> was interesting.  The only advertising were the goofy ESPN ads that I
> think are great.  I came to the conclusion that ESPN360 is an experiment
> to see if they can gin up enough interest to convince other ISPs to
> carry ESPN360.   It seems to me that to succeed they will have to be
> able to create enough advertising to make it pay.  ESPN360 also carries
> reruns of some of their programs that you can see on ESPN. I would like
> to see it succeed because the ESPN Game Plan can't carry all of the
> games.  Did anyone else watch the  game on ESPN 360 an if so what were
> your reactions to it - not the game-the broadcast
>
> John DeGroat
>
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> nwu-sports@tssi.com
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From MHRJGScott at aol.com  Mon Oct  9 13:59:23 2006
From: MHRJGScott at aol.com (MHRJGScott@aol.com)
Date: Mon Oct  9 13:59:26 2006
Subject: FW: [NU Sports] Congratulations!
Message-ID: <c24.603b7f6.325bf60b@aol.com>

Happy new year Alan, I am sure you are glad to be away from the Tribune  
Company (from the same people who brought us the Cubs) and into the GE universe,  
good luck on your new venture.
From rstetson at capps-assoc.com  Mon Oct  9 14:28:43 2006
From: rstetson at capps-assoc.com (Roy Lamberton)
Date: Mon Oct  9 14:28:55 2006
Subject: [NU Sports] espn360
In-Reply-To: <fcb3ee270610091155v599be6d0j8bf58198cda782a7@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <000401c6ebd9$2217e620$6601a8c0@DAVIDXP>

FWIW - I have watched almost every NU game on ESPN+ on my computer for at least
the past 4 years, maybe since they started providing streaming video. I've also
watch games on 360 and while ESPN GamePlan [PPV] is a little fuzzy at high
resolution, at least it doesn't stop and start like ESPN360.

I run a comcast Cable link into my house, and have my laptop [LCD screen] on a
100 BT connection. It runs fine, except that its about 3-5 seconds behind WGN
and the chat. It becomes like an instant replace [with instant replays] and once
you're used to chatting and watching its fine.

360 makes use of game technology and is primarily designed for that usage, altho
you can stream video.

NU Sports and CSTV is using some kind of Flash product that doesn't like any of
my computer configurations [Firefox, IE7, Media Player 12 beta] so I can't
comment on that. I used to be able to watch the press conference, but now it
tells me to reinstall all the older software, which I am not willing to do....

I'd prefer that all the internet streaming guys would settle on either Real
Player or Media Player [or something else that's open code] so those who ould
buy coverage can pay for it, and those who don't can just listen.

While I think Comcast should subscribe to ESPN360 and it would make me happy,
why should a zillion others pay a fee to ESPN so I can watch a couple of games a
year. Gameplan costs me a lot, but its worth it to be able to watch what I want.
I just wish they broadcast all the Div I games on PPV. 

>From a financial perspective, I'd rather have 20 bucks a head from guys at home,
than 100% of the zero bucks they're getting from Comcast right now. Comcast also
doesn't carry ESPN-U, probably because they want to bundle it with 360.

I really thought the "Mouse" was smarter than that....

rsl

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> -----Original Message-----
> From: nwu-sports-bounces@tssi.com 
> [mailto:nwu-sports-bounces@tssi.com] On Behalf Of Jonathan Hodges
> Sent: Monday, October 09, 2006 2:56 PM
> To: John A. DeGroat
> Cc: nwu-sports@romaine.tssi.com
> Subject: Re: [NU Sports] espn360
> 
> 
> Well some of us attempted to go back on campus in order to 
> watch (it was announced on Friday that ESPN360 would be 
> available on the NU campus), but indeed it was not available. 
>  From the sounds of it there was a goof on NU's end (they 
> gave ESPN the wrong range of IP addresses), so I can't say 
> anything regarding ESPN360's handling of the game except for 
> the disgust at their revenue strategy.
> 
> Also note that you can get GamePlan online, which I have 
> personally never done.  If anyone has seen GamePlan games 
> online I would like to know how that compares with the 
> regular TV or ESPN360, especially since you can view archived 
> games for the week that you paid for, which is nice since you 
> can't record easily from the internet.
> 
> Since ESPN360 is obviously does not have any technological 
> limitations preventing it from reaching a wider audience I 
> would prefer to see it go to a purely PPV model if they 
> insist on charging for live content.  I would have been more 
> than willing to pay $10 to view the game, as would many 
> others.  Hopefully they adjust their distribution strategy, 
> especially if more games will be included on this in coming 
> seasons.  We'll have to see what the Big Ten plans to do once 
> they launch their own network - if they will only televise 
> games on TV or will also use the internet.
> 
> Jonathan
> 
> 
> On 10/9/06, John A. DeGroat <johnadeg@bellatlantic.net> wrote:
> >
> > I watched the NU-Wisconsin game on ESPN360 and except for 
> the horrible 
> > results, I thought that the concept of watching a game on 
> the Internet 
> > was interesting.  The only advertising were the goofy ESPN 
> ads that I 
> > think are great.  I came to the conclusion that ESPN360 is an 
> > experiment to see if they can gin up enough interest to 
> convince other ISPs to
> > carry ESPN360.   It seems to me that to succeed they will have to be
> > able to create enough advertising to make it pay.  ESPN360 also 
> > carries reruns of some of their programs that you can see 
> on ESPN. I 
> > would like to see it succeed because the ESPN Game Plan can't carry 
> > all of the games.  Did anyone else watch the  game on ESPN 
> 360 an if 
> > so what were your reactions to it - not the game-the broadcast
> >
> > John DeGroat
> >
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From bwdolphin146 at yahoo.com  Mon Oct  9 14:47:19 2006
From: bwdolphin146 at yahoo.com (Brad Wilson)
Date: Mon Oct  9 14:47:23 2006
Subject: [NU Sports] I can live with losing a game ...
Message-ID: <20061009194719.12418.qmail@web51307.mail.yahoo.com>

... but losing recruits -- especially to a league
rival -- is a recipe for long-term disaster. 

I remember a linebacker de-committing from Rutgers
(and going to Minnesota) that started a avalanche of
bad news for the Terry Shea regime -- I hope this is
not the case here.

I dislike paying intense attention to recruiting --
not enough hours in the day for all that stuff -- but
will this become an issue with more kids, do people
think? A few more 41-9 debacles and we may not have a
recruiting class. 

Brad Wilson



"We must not confuse dissent with disloyalty. We must remember always that accusation is not proof, and that conviction depends upon evidence and due process of law.

"We will not walk in fear, one of another. We will not be driven by fear into an age of unreason, if we dig deep in our history and our doctrine, and remember that we are not descended from fearful men, not from men who feared to write, to speak, to associate, and to defend causes that were for the moment unpopular." -- Edward R. Murrow, 1954.

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From cyrilku at yahoo.com  Mon Oct  9 15:12:35 2006
From: cyrilku at yahoo.com (Cyril S. Ku)
Date: Mon Oct  9 15:12:41 2006
Subject: [NU Sports] I can live with losing a game ...
In-Reply-To: <20061009194719.12418.qmail@web51307.mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <20061009201236.72802.qmail@web53311.mail.yahoo.com>

Well, we've just gotten a commitment today:

http://northwestern.rivals.com/viewprospect.asp?Sport=1&pr_key=41743

Cyril Ku

--- Brad Wilson <bwdolphin146@yahoo.com> wrote:

> ... but losing recruits -- especially to a league
> rival -- is a recipe for long-term disaster. 
> 
> I remember a linebacker de-committing from Rutgers
> (and going to Minnesota) that started a avalanche of
> bad news for the Terry Shea regime -- I hope this is
> not the case here.
> 
> I dislike paying intense attention to recruiting --
> not enough hours in the day for all that stuff --
> but
> will this become an issue with more kids, do people
> think? A few more 41-9 debacles and we may not have
> a
> recruiting class. 
> 
> Brad Wilson
> 
> 
> 
> "We must not confuse dissent with disloyalty. We
> must remember always that accusation is not proof,
> and that conviction depends upon evidence and due
> process of law.
> 
> "We will not walk in fear, one of another. We will
> not be driven by fear into an age of unreason, if we
> dig deep in our history and our doctrine, and
> remember that we are not descended from fearful men,
> not from men who feared to write, to speak, to
> associate, and to defend causes that were for the
> moment unpopular." -- Edward R. Murrow, 1954.
> 
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> 
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From neonrye at aol.com  Mon Oct  9 15:27:22 2006
From: neonrye at aol.com (neonrye@aol.com)
Date: Mon Oct  9 15:27:30 2006
Subject: [NU Sports] Congratulations!
In-Reply-To: <33C4F11DF8639640A51C79CB484166FFA413A6@RKFMLVEM02.e2k.ad.ge.com>
References: <33C4F11DF8639640A51C79CB484166FFA413A6@RKFMLVEM02.e2k.ad.ge.com>
Message-ID: <8C8B9F875C83344-1700-2237@FWM-M18.sysops.aol.com>

Alan,
Congratulations from our NYC contingent.  Speaking of Barry Cofield, I was able (through Roy L.) to get his e-mail address and sent him a short note welcoming him to  New York.  He wrote back a gracious reply.
 
Paul Levinson
 
 
-----Original Message-----
From: alan.abrahamson@nbcuni.com
To: nwu-sports@tssi.com
Sent: Mon, 9 Oct 2006 2:09 PM
Subject: FW: [NU Sports] Congratulations!


 
Thanks to Neil for the nice note. I am also proud to count Neil among
one of my best friends. You should see the two of us at the back of the
synagogue, wondering whether to check Wildcat scores or once again pay
attention to what's going on around us; I am sure we are making our
wives and the rabbi proud. (FYI Neil's oldest son, Max, was just Bar
Mitzvah'd and did an outstanding job.)  At any rate ...
 Thanks to Roy as well for the link. The Charger game is actually not my
first story. I've been at the website for about a month. Those of you
who (understandably) have not been dedicated readers missed, for
instance, a lengthy piece on the 1966 Notre Dame-Michigan State 10-10
classic tie; a very interesting event to recount. If any of you have
heard about Bears defensive back Ricky Manning Jr.'s recent court
appearance in LA, that story was mine, too. List favorite Jay Marriotti
referred to it in his Sunday column in the Sun-Times.
 I hope I can ask each of you to check the site out -- again, it's
www.nbcsports.com. It's still very much a work in progress but we have
lots of interesting stuff, with more to come as the NBA, etc., gets
going. And of course the Olympics; the next Summer Games are coming up
in 2008, in Beijing.
 A note or two about the game last night. I deliberately wore a
Northwestern sweatshirt into the locker rooms. Luis and I had a great
chat. Just didn't find a suitable place for his comments in the story. I
regrettably did not run into Trai Essex on the Steeler side.
 A couple weeks ago, I ran into Barry Cofield in the Giants locker room.
There wasn't much time or inclination for much beyond pleasantries,
however. That was the week the Seahawks pasted the Giants.
 Warm regards to all of you and best wishes for a happy and healthy 5767
(hey, Neil, see -- now we can tell the rabbi we've been paying
attention) - Alan
 
  

-----Original Message-----
From: nwu-sports-bounces@tssi.com [mailto:nwu-sports-bounces@tssi.com]
On Behalf Of Roy Lamberton
Sent: Monday, October 09, 2006 9:36 AM
To: 'Kaplan, Neil'; nwu-sports@romaine.tssi.com
Subject: RE: [NU Sports] Congratulations!

His first story, I think, ran today 

http://www.nbcsports.com/nfl/146534/detail.html


About the Chargers, but didn't mention Luis C

rsl

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> -----Original Message-----
> From: nwu-sports-bounces@tssi.com
> [mailto:nwu-sports-bounces@tssi.com] On Behalf Of Kaplan, Neil
> Sent: Monday, October 09, 2006 12:20 PM
> To: nwu-sports@romaine.tssi.com
> Subject: [NU Sports] Congratulations!
> 
> 
> 
> 
> I wanted to let my list brethren know that our esteemed listmate and 
> award winning journalist Alan Abrahamson, has joined NBC Sports and 
> NBCsports.com, after 17 distinguished years at the Los Angeles Times.
> We can look forward to seeing Alan's brand of investigative reporting 
> throughout NBC's broadcast vehicles and internet site.  NBCsports.com 
> has recently relaunched and Alan is the keystone of their new 
> initiatives.  Bookmark the site and return to it often.
> 
> Alan has had several recent appearances on NBC Nightly News and we 
> look forward to seeing him often, especially in the run up to the 2008

> Olympics. As many of you know, Alan, by most accounts, is the world's 
> leading journalist on all things Olympic.  Those of you with an eye 
> for detail will also recall his frequent tv appearances during the 
> last two Olympic games - wearing Wildcat gear.
> 
> I am proud to have Alan as one of my best friends.  Please join me in 
> congratulating Alan on his exciting new role.
> 
> Neil K.
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From johnl at mac.com  Mon Oct  9 15:44:21 2006
From: johnl at mac.com (John Labbe)
Date: Mon Oct  9 15:44:23 2006
Subject: [NU Sports] I can live with losing a game ...
In-Reply-To: <20061009194719.12418.qmail@web51307.mail.yahoo.com>
References: <20061009194719.12418.qmail@web51307.mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <8097063.1160426661833.JavaMail.johnl@mac.com>

 
On Monday, October 09, 2006, at 03:52PM, Brad Wilson <bwdolphin146@yahoo.com> wrote:

****
A few more 41-9 debacles and we may not have a
>recruiting class. 
>
>Brad Wilson
>

I think a loss like the one we suffered on Saturday is already "built in" to our recruiting capabilities.  In other words, although we've had a number of winning seasons recently, we haven't exactly been a national title contender and we've had some embarrassing losses and embarrassing statistics to our credit in all of those years.

Obviously, improving on these things would help our recruiting, but I don't think a few big losses to Big Ten teams will really worsen our ability to recruit.

It sounds like this one lost recruit to Wisconsin had a preference for Wisconsin, anyway, and just went with it when they offered him a scholarship.

If you're Fitzgerald, I think you have to point to some of our recent winning seasons and tell recruits that this year is a rebuilding season for numerous apparent reasons.  Although Ohio State and Michigan may not have "rebuilding seasons," it's a pretty common phenomenon among most other schools.


From WildElk2 at aol.com  Mon Oct  9 17:51:23 2006
From: WildElk2 at aol.com (WildElk2@aol.com)
Date: Mon Oct  9 17:51:38 2006
Subject: [NU Sports] I can live with losing a game ...
Message-ID: <305.43d9cd7b.325c2c6b@aol.com>

Not much to say except it was a mirror image of the PSU game;  we gave up a 
lot of yards, but for 2 and a half quarters, we got turnovers and  held Bucky 
to FG's.
   My concern is with our offensive line, but then again,  everyone is 
putting 8,9 guys in the box, daring us to beat them.  I  congratulate Brewer for at 
least trying the deep ball to thompson; maybe we'll  do better at home against 
Purdue and Michigan St.
   I think we all know that 6-6 is out of the picture, but I say  it's too 
early to start planning for next season.  In light of all our  knpwn problems, 
5-7 would be a good place to start.  This season reminds me  of 1999; RW's 
first season before the spread.  The defense would keep us in  games...to a point. 
 The offense struggles mightily in Kustok's first  season, just as we did in 
2002 with BB.
   This is where I'm at:  The last 3 years saw a better  grade of ball with a 
lot of big wins.  With all the changes over the last  few months, let's hope
 that 2007 sees the sustained success that RW had brought to the  program.
 
Still trusting the  Plan,             Eric
 
From sjtruog at yahoo.com  Tue Oct 10 00:40:32 2006
From: sjtruog at yahoo.com (SjT (Stephen J. Truog))
Date: Tue Oct 10 00:40:43 2006
Subject: [NU Sports] PIGSKIN PICKS - Week 7
Message-ID: <20061010054032.83310.qmail@web52904.mail.yahoo.com>

Hopefully we'll have standings by this time next week
(kinda like the BCS?:) ), but for now we have the week
7 lineup. We have a THURSDAY NIGHT game this week, so
don't forget to get your picks in by kickoff in the
ACC on THURSDAY.

Another good week here, and even though Auburn lost,
the biggie is still the SEC showdown in Jordan-Hare
Stadium with the Gators. The night game at Happy
Valley ain't too shabby either ... and Thursday's
night's ACC clash is essentially an elimination game
for the title hunt.

PIGSKIN PICKS - WEEK 7
######################
Name: 

BIG TEN
=======
Game  1: Ohio @ Illinois 
Winner: 

Game  2: Iowa @ Indiana
Winner: 

Game  3: Michigan @ Penn State
Winner: 

Game  4: Ohio State @ Michigan State
Winner: 

Game  5: Minnesota @ Wisconsin
Winner: 

NATIONAL
========
Game  6: Virginia Tech @ Boston College
Winner: 

Game  7: Florida @ Auburn
Winner: 

Game  8: Mississippi @ Alabama
Winner: 

Game  9: Arizona State @ Southern Cal
Winner: 

Game 10: UCLA @ Oregon 
Winner: 

MY PICKS
========
* ILLINOIS 30, Ohio 13
C: Bowl fever died quickly in Illiniland, but they
still should beat the Bobcats.

* IOWA 42, Indiana 10
C: Another Hawkeye tuneup as they prepare to visit the
Big House for a big one next week.

* MICHIGAN 21, Penn State 17
C: Could be the game of the day, with another electric
night atmosphere (ala last year's OSU game) in Happy
Valley for a big game. Problem is, Lloyd has JoePa's
number and Michigan has the better talent on both
sides of the ball. The crowd keeps it close, but not
enough.

* OHIO STATE 38, Michigan State 9
C: Sparty didn't put up much fight against rival
Michigan so the boo birds could be out early as
Philly, er, Sparty fans prepare the torches while the
nation's #1 team just plain torches MSU's defense.

* WISCONSIN 27, Minnesota 17
C: Dangerous game here as you figure Minny's gotta get
one of these close ones soon ... but not in Madison,
as the Badgers quietly move to 6-1.

* BOSTON COLLEGE 20, Virginia Tech 17
C: In Blacksburg, this is a Tech rout - especially
under the lights. But at BC, the Eagles luck another
one out.

* AUBURN 13, Florida 9
C: The brutal schedule took its toll on the Tigers
last week, now it's the Gators turn as they slip up in
a brutal defensive slugfest on the Plains at night.

* ALABAMA 23, Mississippi 16
C: Closer than it should be, but the Tide still win in
the SEC day headliner.

* SOUTHERN CAL 30, Arizona State 24
C: The Trojans are living a charmed life and due to
get burned by playing with fire ... but the Sun Devils
are truly a cursed team and blow a big lead here late.

* OREGON 37, UCLA 17
C: The Ducks rebound from last week's prime-time
debacle to rip the Bruins at home.

And off the board ...

* NORTHWESTERN 21, Purdue 13
C: After a rough road stretch, the Cats return home
and get a needed boost at the right time against the
pesky Boilers, still stinging from last week's
whuppin' in Kinnich. I hope ... I hope ... :)

GO CATS!!!
-SjT

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From rstetson at capps-assoc.com  Tue Oct 10 14:09:17 2006
From: rstetson at capps-assoc.com (Roy Lamberton)
Date: Tue Oct 10 14:09:27 2006
Subject: [NU Sports] NU Sports News Digest for 10/10
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Tuesday Late Edition


          All the News that Fits We Link
         Your Index to on-line News about
        Northwestern University Athletics

FOOTBALL

     Pre-Games With Pat Fitzgerald Start This Thursday
      http://nusports.cstv.com/sports/m-footbl/spec-rel/100906aad.html 

     Northwestern Returns to Ryan Field to Entertain Purdue
      http://nusports.cstv.com/sports/m-footbl/spec-rel/100906aab.html 
     + Monday 2-Deep, Injuries, and ????
      http://northwestern.scout.com/2/577725.html 
     + Northwestern tries to focus on basics
 
http://chicagosports.chicagotribune.com/sports/college/northwestern/cs-061009nor
thwesternfootballwires,1,763683.story?coll=cs-college-headlines 
     + CatsSearching For Solution To Halftime Woes
 
http://www.dailynorthwestern.com/news/2006/10/10/Sports/Cats-Searching.For.Solut
ion.To.Halftime.Woes.football-2341288.shtml 
     + Consistency Brewer earn berth as starting QB
      http://www.dailyherald.com/sports/northwestern.asp?id=236702 

Next up for the Cats:

     10/14 Purdue Boilermakers [Family Weekend]
     Eye injury may sideline Lymon 1 game
 
http://www.boilerstation.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20061010/SPORTS020101/61
0100340/1122/BOILER 
     + Depth Chart 
 
http://www.fansonly.com/photos/schools/pur/sports/m-footbl/auto_pdf/depth-chart.
pdf 


     Big 10
     Indiana, Minnesota, Ohio State and Wisconsin Collect Big Ten Football
Weekly Laurels
      http://bigten.cstv.com/sports/m-footbl/spec-rel/100906aaa.html 

RECRUITING

     Mabin makes his choice
      http://northwestern.scout.com/2/577516.html 
     + Nordonia star picks Northwestern
 
http://www.cleveland.com/sports/plaindealer/index.ssf?/base/sports/1160469401282
470.xml&coll=2 
     + Nordonia football standout selects Northwestern
      http://www.ohio.com/mld/beaconjournal/15717380.htm 
     + Nordonia's Mabin picks Northwestern
      http://www.ohio.com/mld/beaconjournal/15721386.htm 

FIELD HOCKEY

     Iowa Ruins NU's Chances At Starting Winning Streak
 
http://www.dailynorthwestern.com/news/2006/10/10/Sports/Iowa-Ruins.Nus.Chances.A
t.Starting.Winning.Streak.field.Hockey-2341298.shtml 

GOLF

     Men
     Frosh Draws Comparison To Donald
 
http://www.dailynorthwestern.com/news/2006/10/10/Sports/Frosh.Draws.Comparison.T
o.Donald-2341294.shtml 

     Frustration Mars Windon
 
http://www.dailynorthwestern.com/news/2006/10/10/Sports/Frustration.Mars.Windon.
mens.Golf-2341248.shtml 

SOCCER

     Men
     Identical Stats Can't Save NU Against Indiana
 
http://www.dailynorthwestern.com/news/2006/10/10/Sports/Identical.Stats.Cant.Sav
e.Nu.Against.Indiana.mens.Soccer-2341253.shtml 

     Women
     'Bittersweet' Home Finale For Wildcats' Bohannon
 
http://www.dailynorthwestern.com/news/2006/10/10/Sports/bittersweet.Home.Finale.
For.Wildcats.Bohannon.womens.Soccer-2341299.shtml 

VOLLEYBALL

     Anderson's 22 Kills Spark NU Comeback
 
http://www.dailynorthwestern.com/news/2006/10/10/Sports/Andersons.22.Kills.Spark
.Nu.Comeback.volleyball-2341300.shtml 

MISCELLANY

     Benge: The time is long overdo for Chief Illiniwek to retire
 
http://www.indystar.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20061010/SPORTS/610100398/100
4/SPORTS 

Alumni

     Joe Girardi Ex-Cub bats leadoff on the interview list
 
http://www.chicagotribune.com/sports/baseball/cubs/cs-061009cubsgirardi,1,75064.
story?coll=chi-sportstop-hed 
     + Ex-Cubs exec analyzes 'mess'
 
http://www.chicagotribune.com/sports/columnists/cs-061009mitchell,1,7739239.colu
mn?coll=chi-sportscolumnistfront-hed 
     + Girardi first in line for interview
      http://www.dailysouthtown.com/sports/90435,1SD2-10.article 

     PGA
     Luke Donald - off this week

     Nationwide Tour Permian Basic Charity Golf Classic
      http://www.pgatour.com/tournaments/h038 
     Jess Daley -Scheduled
     Tom Johnson -  Scheduled

   2006 Football Opponents

     10/21 Michigan State Spartans 11 AM [HC]  - Channel 2
     10/28 @ Michigan Wolverines 11 AM ABC/ESPN
     AP poll: Ohio State #1, Michigan moves to #4
 
http://chicagosports.chicagotribune.com/sports/columnists/cs-061006appoll,1,5681
172.story?coll=cs-college-headlines 
     11/4 @ Iowa Hawkeyes
     11/11 Ohio State [Lasalle Bank Day]
     11/18 Illinois Fighting Illini [Senior Day]

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From bwdolphin146 at yahoo.com  Tue Oct 10 23:39:40 2006
From: bwdolphin146 at yahoo.com (Brad Wilson)
Date: Tue Oct 10 23:39:43 2006
Subject: [NU Sports] good news for Philadelphia Wildcat fans!
Message-ID: <20061011043940.88795.qmail@web51308.mail.yahoo.com>

Perdoo game on WPHL Channel 17, noon. 

Hope it's worth watching ...

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From rstetson at capps-assoc.com  Wed Oct 11 11:53:31 2006
From: rstetson at capps-assoc.com (Roy Lamberton)
Date: Wed Oct 11 11:53:40 2006
Subject: [NU Sports] NU Sports News Digest for 10/10
Message-ID: <002b01c6ed55$c8f8f600$6601a8c0@DAVIDXP>

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Tuesday Late Edition

     All the News that Fits We Link
    Your Index to on-line News about
   Northwestern University Athletics

FOOTBALL

     what's wrong with the NU Offense?
     Disappearing act
 
http://chicagosports.chicagotribune.com/sports/college/northwestern/cs-061010nu,
1,7662198.story?coll=cs-college-headlines 
     + Fitz hopes break will break trend
      http://www.suntimes.com/sports/colleges/91471,CST-SPT-local11.article 
     + Cats Searching For Solution To Halftime Woes
 
http://www.dailynorthwestern.com/news/2006/10/10/Sports/Cats-Searching.For.Solut
ion.To.Halftime.Woes.football-2341288.shtml 

     Where will the game be on the air?
     Purdue vs NU TV Listing
      http://bigten.cstv.com/sports/m-footbl/archive/100306aac.html 

     Monday 2-Deep, Injuries, and ????
      http://northwestern.scout.com/2/577725.html 

     Pre-Games With Pat Fitzgerald Start This Thursday
      http://nusports.cstv.com/sports/m-footbl/spec-rel/100906aad.html 

Next up for the Cats:

     10/14 Purdue Boilermakers [Family Weekend]
     Manningham, Lymon To Miss Action Forced To Face His Fears
 
http://www.dailynorthwestern.com/news/2006/10/11/Sports/Manningham.Lymon.To.Miss
.Action.Forced.To.Face.His.Fears-2343187.shtml 
     + Purdue Prepares for Northwestern
      http://www.fox28.com/Sports/index.php?ID=5958 
     + Purdue defense isn't helping offense
      http://www.sportingnews.com/yourturn/viewtopic.php?t=136981 
     + Run defense has Tiller scrambling
      http://www.post-trib.com/sports/91794,PU11A.article 
     + Receivers a deep option for Painter
 
http://www.boilerstation.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20061011/SPORTS020101/61
0110345/1122/BOILER 
     + Tiller ready to move on
 
http://www.boilerstation.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20061011/SPORTS020101/61
0110341/1122/BOILER 
     + In the huddle: Purdue Boilermakers
 
http://www.indystar.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20061011/SPORTS0602/610110483
/1004/SPORTS 
     + Osipoff: Win or lose? It depends on Painter's game
      http://www.post-trib.com/sports/osipoff/91814,osi11.article 

     Big 10
     Needed: Full disclosure on injuries
      http://www.suntimes.com/sports/colleges/91476,CST-SPT-big11.article 

RECRUITING

     Tallmadge trips Copley in Suburban League shuffle
      http://www.ohio.com/mld/ohio/sports/high_school/15702457.htm 
     Dan Persa Liberty suffers 1st loss


GOLF

     Men
     Wildcats Finish Seventh At Windon Memorial Classic
      http://nusports.cstv.com/sports/m-golf/recaps/100906aaa.html 

LACROSSE

     and you thought #1 took the fall off....
     Fall ball schedule for women's college
 
http://www.insidelacrosse.com/page.cfm?pagerid=2&news=fdetail&storyid=137381 

SOCCER

     Men
     Wildcats Battle No. 17 UIC on the Road Wednesday Night
      http://nusports.cstv.com/sports/m-soccer/spec-rel/101006aaa.html 
     + Win Today Would Help NCAA Bid
 
http://www.dailynorthwestern.com/news/2006/10/11/Sports/Win-Today.Would.Help.Nca
a.Bid.mens.Soccer-2343071.shtml 

     Women
     Freshman Defender Making Early Waves
 
http://www.dailynorthwestern.com/news/2006/10/11/Sports/Freshman.Defender.Making
.Early.Waves.womens.Soccer-2343104.shtml 


VOLLEYBALL

     Northwestern Hosts Pair of Ranked Foes at Welsh-Ryan This Weekend
      http://nusports.cstv.com/sports/w-volley/spec-rel/101006aaa.html 

MISCELLANY

     Baton Twirler Spinning Into The Spotlight Goes Here
 
http://www.dailynorthwestern.com/news/2006/10/11/Sports/Baton.Twirler.Spinning.I
nto.The.Spotlight.Goes.Here-2343153.shtml 
     Son's death should serve as warning: Don't drink too much
      http://www.statenews.com/op_article.phtml?pk=38056 
     Jerry Rice praises New Hampshire receiver who passed him
 
http://rssfeeds.usatoday.com/%7Er/UsatodaycomCollegeFootball-TopStories/%7E3/358
79271/2006-10-10-david-ball_x.htm 
     College football really needs playoff tourney
      http://feeds.feedburner.com/%7Er/Foxsports/rss/CFB/%7E3/35894105/6047944 

Alumni

     Joe Girardi Cubbies don't want to let Girardi fly away
      http://www.sportingnews.com/yourturn/viewtopic.php?t=136843 
     + Named Sporting News NL Manger of the Year
      http://www.sportingnews.com/yourturn/viewtopic.php?t=136793 
     + Cubs interview Girardi for managing job
      http://www.sportingnews.com/yourturn/viewtopic.php?t=136760 
     + Yankees star could be back on Cubs' radar
 
http://www.chicagotribune.com/sports/baseball/cubs/cs-061010sullyoncubs,1,242520
2.story?coll=chi-sportstop-hed 

     PGA
     Luke Donald - off this week

     Nationwide Tour Permian Basic Charity Golf Classic
      http://www.pgatour.com/tournaments/h038 
     Jess Daley -Scheduled
     Tom Johnson -  Scheduled

   2006 Football Opponents

     10/21 Michigan State Spartans 11 AM [HC]  - Channel 2
     Spartans can save season, coaches against No. 1 Ohio State
 
http://rssfeeds.usatoday.com/%7Er/UsatodaycomCollegeFootball-TopStories/%7E3/354
15114/2006-10-09-michigan-state_x.htm 
     10/28 @ Michigan Wolverines 11 AM ABC/ESPN
     No. 4 Michigan will face Penn State without top receiver Manningham
 
http://rssfeeds.usatoday.com/%7Er/UsatodaycomCollegeFootball-TopStories/%7E3/357
42718/2006-10-10-michigan-manningham_x.htm 
     11/4 @ Iowa Hawkeyes
     11/11 Ohio State [Lasalle Bank Day]
     11/18 Illinois Fighting Illini [Senior Day]

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From NEONRye at aol.com  Thu Oct 12 16:27:57 2006
From: NEONRye at aol.com (NEONRye@aol.com)
Date: Thu Oct 12 16:28:02 2006
Subject: [NU Sports] Cory Lidle Remembrance
Message-ID: <cba.904e3b.32600d5d@aol.com>

I know we are a Northwestern-oriented list, but I hope all of you will  
indulge me on this.
 
I just read a wonderful article authored by Mychael Urban, a reporter based  
in Oakland for mlb.com, in which he movingly describes his friendship with 
Cory  Lidle.  Given how often many of us on the list vent about Maronetti and  
other writers with whom we may take issue (often with good reason), I found this 
 writer's account so poignant, I thought I would share it with all of you:
_http://newyork.yankees.mlb.com/NASApp/mlb/news/article_perspectives.jsp?ymd=2
0061011&content_id=1709560&vkey=perspectives&fext=.jsp_ 
(http://newyork.yankees.mlb.com/NASApp/mlb/news/article_perspectives.jsp?ymd=20061011&content_id=170
9560&vkey=perspectives&fext=.jsp) 
 
I rembember when Lidle first came up with the Mets, and followed his  career, 
on and off, over the years until he finally came back to NY with the  Yanks.  
I saw him pitch in pinstripes in August.  The Bombers lost the  game by a 6-5 
score, I think, and he gave up 3 early runs, but he then settled  down with 
his recognized grit and competitiveness, and the Yanks almost came  back to win 
it.  I always thought the mark of a good pitcher was to fight  back after a 
rocky first or second inning, so he made a strong impression.   I also used to 
live a half-block from the crash site, so the whole spectacle  yesterday was 
rather chilling.   And finally, on Columbus Day  (Monday), while off from work 
and driving in my car, I happened to listen  to his last radio interview--with 
the well-known duo on WFAN, "Mike (Francesa)  and the Mad Dog (Chris Russo)", 
who ripped him pretty good for some comments the  day before in which he 
stated, in substance, that the Yanks were less  prepared for the ALDS than the 
Tigers, which they took as a knock on Joe  Torre.  He hung in, despite their 
criticism, but seemed somewhat  shaken.  And now he is gone......
 
Paul Levinson
 
 
From bwdolphin146 at yahoo.com  Thu Oct 12 23:21:15 2006
From: bwdolphin146 at yahoo.com (Brad Wilson)
Date: Thu Oct 12 23:21:18 2006
Subject: [NU Sports] kicking blues
Message-ID: <20061013042115.15319.qmail@web51301.mail.yahoo.com>

>From the Associated Press story of Boston College's
win Thursday night:

"Steve Aponavicius walked onto the field for the first
football game of his life on Thursday night and helped
Boston College walk off with a 22-3 victory over No.
22 Virginia Tech.
The left-footed soccer convert was perfect on two
field goals and two extra points."

This kid HAD NEVER PLAYED FOOTBALL before he came to
college, and, lo, he can kick! 

As NU continues to dork extra points, pass up scoring
tries because the FG kicker can't get it done, etc., I
shake my head and wonder why we can't even find a
walk-on to kick like this kid. Sigh.

Brad Wilson 


"We must not confuse dissent with disloyalty. We must remember always that accusation is not proof, and that conviction depends upon evidence and due process of law.

"We will not walk in fear, one of another. We will not be driven by fear into an age of unreason, if we dig deep in our history and our doctrine, and remember that we are not descended from fearful men, not from men who feared to write, to speak, to associate, and to defend causes that were for the moment unpopular." -- Edward R. Murrow, 1954.

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From rstetson at capps-assoc.com  Fri Oct 13 07:29:34 2006
From: rstetson at capps-assoc.com (Roy Lamberton)
Date: Fri Oct 13 07:29:34 2006
Subject: [NU Sports] kicking blues
In-Reply-To: <20061013042115.15319.qmail@web51301.mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <006d01c6eec3$3de9be40$6601a8c0@DAVIDXP>

I'm not sure we have a "kicking" problem this year, or down the road.

We have a very good group of kickers in Evanston, one in particular should
emerge next year as a star.

There's a punter or two visiting over the next few weeks who should challenge at
that position.

Outside of the men's soccer team, I'm not sure we have undiscovered "soccer"
talent wandering the campus. I'm pretty sure the soccer coaches check out the
Saturday pickup games. 

I can remember when teams gave a kicker a scholarship out of HS almost every
year. Then they found out that because of the change from tee to grass, lost of
guys couldn't do the job. You'd waste one of your 85 on guys who never panned
out.

My son's team in Greensboro found a kicking coach who ran camps, etc. He was an
older man, who I think was semi-retired. They went from never kicking the ball
right to the 35 yard pooch kick to the end cover guy, and hitting 40+ FGs.

He instilled more than just kicking the ball into the kickers. They came out at
halftime and kicked FG's from the 20, back to the 50, always into the wind.

I'm sorry to say that I never got to see him practice his guys, but most kickers
go off by themselves and practice except for the actual kick team practices.

rsl

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> -----Original Message-----
> From: nwu-sports-bounces@tssi.com 
> [mailto:nwu-sports-bounces@tssi.com] On Behalf Of Brad Wilson
> Sent: Friday, October 13, 2006 12:21 AM
> To: nwu-sports@tssi.com
> Subject: [NU Sports] kicking blues
> 
> 
> >From the Associated Press story of Boston College's
> win Thursday night:
> 
> "Steve Aponavicius walked onto the field for the first
> football game of his life on Thursday night and helped
> Boston College walk off with a 22-3 victory over No.
> 22 Virginia Tech.
> The left-footed soccer convert was perfect on two
> field goals and two extra points."
> 
> This kid HAD NEVER PLAYED FOOTBALL before he came to
> college, and, lo, he can kick! 
> 
> As NU continues to dork extra points, pass up scoring
> tries because the FG kicker can't get it done, etc., I
> shake my head and wonder why we can't even find a
> walk-on to kick like this kid. Sigh.
> 
> Brad Wilson 
> 
> 
> "We must not confuse dissent with disloyalty. We must 
> remember always that accusation is not proof, and that 
> conviction depends upon evidence and due process of law.
> 
> "We will not walk in fear, one of another. We will not be 
> driven by fear into an age of unreason, if we dig deep in our 
> history and our doctrine, and remember that we are not 
> descended from fearful men, not from men who feared to write, 
> to speak, to associate, and to defend causes that were for 
> the moment unpopular." -- Edward R. Murrow, 1954.
> 
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From rstetson at capps-assoc.com  Fri Oct 13 08:16:37 2006
From: rstetson at capps-assoc.com (Roy Lamberton)
Date: Fri Oct 13 08:16:41 2006
Subject: [NU Sports] NU Sports News Digest for 10/12
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In fourteen hundred and ninety two, Columbus sailed the ocean blue:  As the Cats
get ready to play Purdue; Soccer, Girardi, V-Ball, and Loretta; the Sports News
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FOOTBALL

     Scaling back won't become practice
      http://www.suntimes.com/sports/colleges/92782,CST-SPT-local12.article 
     Injuries Forcing Changes
 
http://www.dailynorthwestern.com/news/2006/10/12/Sports/Injuries.Forcing.Changes
.football-2346579.shtml 
     + Fitzgerald introduces halftime to Wildcats
 
http://www.pioneerlocal.com/mortongrove/sports/93453,mg-nufbl-101206-s1.article 
     + Wildcats may change their return policy
 
http://www.chicagotribune.com/sports/chi-0610120185oct12,1,231949.story?coll=chi
-sportsnew-hed 

     TV info on the game
     Purdue vs NU TV Listing
      http://bigten.cstv.com/sports/m-footbl/archive/100306aac.html 
     come hear Fitz
     Pregames With Pat Fitzgerald Start This Thursday
      http://nusports.cstv.com/sports/m-footbl/spec-rel/100906aad.html 

Next up for the Cats:

     10/14 Purdue Boilermakers [Family Weekend]
     Sudden impact - Purdue's future is bright, but Boilermakers hope this year
is one to remember
 
http://nwitimes.com/articles/2006/10/12/sports/college_sports/2455667d4768a75c86
2572040071c272.txt 
     + Purdue's Lymon injures eye in paintball game
 
http://www.rotoworld.com/content/playerpages/playerbreakingnews.asp?sport=CFB&id
=95417&line=3958&spln=1 
     + Offensive inconsistency hinders team
      http://www.purdueexponent.org/?module=article&story_id=2372 
     + Iowa's strength overpowers Purdue's defense
      http://www.purdueexponent.org/?module=article&story_id=2370 
     + Avril embraces new role on defense
 
http://www.boilerstation.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20061012/SPORTS020101/61
0120309/1122/BOILER 
     + Avril gets new spot on Purdue defense
      http://www.post-trib.com/sports/93166,fdpu.article 
     + Receivers a deep option for Painter
 
http://www.boilerstation.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20061011/SPORTS020101/61
0110345/1122/BOILER 

     Big 10
     Fox Complete Midterm Report
      http://msn.foxsports.com/cfb/story/6049442 

     Randy Walker the hook on this story....
     Coaches' health a bigger concern
 
http://www.usatoday.com/sports/college/football/bigten/2006-10-11-coach-awarenes
s_x.htm?csp=34 

RECRUITING

     Speed, Give me more Speed! 
     http://northwestern.scout.com/2/578212.html 

SOCCER

     Men
     Northwestern Falls to No. 17 UIC 1-0
      http://nusports.cstv.com/sports/m-soccer/recaps/101106aaa.html 
     + Goals Elusive In Defeat Shutout (Men's Soccer)
 
http://www.dailynorthwestern.com/news/2006/10/12/Sports/Goals.Elusive.In.Defeat.
Shutout.mens.Soccer-2346573.shtml 

SWIMMING

     Northwestern Season Jumps off the Blocks Thursday at Norris Aquatics Center
      http://nusports.cstv.com/sports/w-swim/spec-rel/101106aab.html 
     + Seven Freshmen Bring Hope Into Season Opener
 
http://www.dailynorthwestern.com/news/2006/10/12/Sports/Seven.Freshmen.Bring.Hop
e.Into.Season.Opener-2346594.shtml 

VOLLEYBALL

     CLC volleyball player Chrystal commits to NU
 
http://www.mchenrycountysports.com/articles/2006/10/11/columnists/doc452dc6756b6
5b706745875.txt 

MISCELLANY

     Stewart Mandel: It's time to revisit last summer's 'worst coaches' list
 
http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2006/writers/stewart_mandel/10/11/oct11.cfb.mai
lbag/index.html?section=si_ncaaf 

Alumni

     Joe G top candidate for the Nationals, but what about the Cubbies?
     Joe Girardi: Mitchell: Ex-Cubs MVP a fan of Girardi
 
http://www.chicagotribune.com/sports/baseball/cubs/cs-061011mitchell,1,5266113.c
olumn?coll=chi-sportstop-hed 
     +  Nats, Girardi Talk Again About Manager Vacancy
 
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2006/10/12/AR2006101200016.
html 

     Mark Loretta Red Sox season in review
 
http://boston.redsox.mlb.com/NASApp/mlb/news/article.jsp?ymd=20060927&content_id
=1686170&vkey=news_bos&fext=.jsp&c_id=bos 
     + Vote for the Red Sox play of the year
 
http://boston.redsox.mlb.com/NASApp/mlb/mlb/fan_forum/tyib/y2006/play.jsp?c_id=b
os 

     PGA
     Luke Donald - off this week

     Nationwide Tour Permian Basic Charity Golf Classic
      http://www.pgatour.com/tournaments/h038 
     Jess Daley - Full Scorecard
      http://www.pgatour.com/players/scorecard/285331/h038/2006 
     Tom Johnson - Full Scorecard
      http://www.pgatour.com/players/scorecard/466839/h038/2006 

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From Hakirsch at aol.com  Fri Oct 13 09:16:47 2006
From: Hakirsch at aol.com (Hakirsch@aol.com)
Date: Fri Oct 13 09:17:02 2006
Subject: [NU Sports] Cory Lidle Remembrance
Message-ID: <392.c9da94d.3260f9cf@aol.com>

I sadly remember when the father and 2 brothers of Mike Weitzman , a football 
player and wrestler for NU in the late 70's , died after crashing in a  small 
plane after seeing their son and brother in play in  Northwestern-Illinois 
0-0 game in 1978.  While I didn't know Mike well, he lived next door to me off 
campus and was just a really nice guy--He was quoted in the Daily  as saying 
that wrestling in the winter quarter following the tragic loss was the only 
thing that allowed him to keep going 

Harry
From rstetson at capps-assoc.com  Fri Oct 13 09:47:19 2006
From: rstetson at capps-assoc.com (Roy Lamberton)
Date: Fri Oct 13 09:47:17 2006
Subject: [NU Sports] Cory Lidle Remembrance
In-Reply-To: <392.c9da94d.3260f9cf@aol.com>
Message-ID: <000601c6eed6$7c082b40$6401a8c0@DAVIDXP>

Of course our Radio Flagship, WGN, suffered a devastating loss when Bob Collins
crashed into a building north of Chicago while flying his plane after a mid-air
collision with a student pilot.

WGN's deep air staff made his replacement possible by moving Spike to the
mornings, but Chicago lost one of the great local AM Drive talk talents on that
afternoon.

rsl



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> -----Original Message-----
> From: nwu-sports-bounces@tssi.com 
> [mailto:nwu-sports-bounces@tssi.com] On Behalf Of Hakirsch@aol.com
> Sent: Friday, October 13, 2006 10:17 AM
> To: NEONRye@aol.com; nwu-sports@romaine.tssi.com
> Subject: Re: [NU Sports] Cory Lidle Remembrance
> 
> 
> I sadly remember when the father and 2 brothers of Mike 
> Weitzman , a football 
> player and wrestler for NU in the late 70's , died after 
> crashing in a  small 
> plane after seeing their son and brother in play in  
> Northwestern-Illinois 
> 0-0 game in 1978.  While I didn't know Mike well, he lived 
> next door to me off 
> campus and was just a really nice guy--He was quoted in the 
> Daily  as saying 
> that wrestling in the winter quarter following the tragic 
> loss was the only 
> thing that allowed him to keep going 
> 
> Harry
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From rstetson at capps-assoc.com  Fri Oct 13 09:48:29 2006
From: rstetson at capps-assoc.com (Roy Lamberton)
Date: Fri Oct 13 09:48:30 2006
Subject: [NU Sports] Cory Lidle Remembrance
In-Reply-To: <392.c9da94d.3260f9cf@aol.com>
Message-ID: <000701c6eed6$a6232150$6401a8c0@DAVIDXP>

The other thing was that Thurmon Munson, one of the Yank's great catchers and
captains crashed his jet flying into Canton-Akron one morning after a game. He
used to commute from NYC to the Canton area when the yankees were at home.

rsl

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> -----Original Message-----
> From: nwu-sports-bounces@tssi.com 
> [mailto:nwu-sports-bounces@tssi.com] On Behalf Of Hakirsch@aol.com
> Sent: Friday, October 13, 2006 10:17 AM
> To: NEONRye@aol.com; nwu-sports@romaine.tssi.com
> Subject: Re: [NU Sports] Cory Lidle Remembrance
> 
> 
> I sadly remember when the father and 2 brothers of Mike 
> Weitzman , a football 
> player and wrestler for NU in the late 70's , died after 
> crashing in a  small 
> plane after seeing their son and brother in play in  
> Northwestern-Illinois 
> 0-0 game in 1978.  While I didn't know Mike well, he lived 
> next door to me off 
> campus and was just a really nice guy--He was quoted in the 
> Daily  as saying 
> that wrestling in the winter quarter following the tragic 
> loss was the only 
> thing that allowed him to keep going 
> 
> Harry
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From NEONRye at aol.com  Fri Oct 13 09:51:06 2006
From: NEONRye at aol.com (NEONRye@aol.com)
Date: Fri Oct 13 09:51:20 2006
Subject: [NU Sports] NU-PURDUE on ESPN PLUS
Message-ID: <391.bf87346.326101da@aol.com>

Good news for those of us in NY and points East, South and even West.   
Tomorrow's game is on ESPN-PLUS, and the feed will be picked up in several major  
markets outside the Big 10 Heartland, including NY, Philly, Houston, Denver,  
etc:
_http://bigten.cstv.com/sports/m-footbl/archive/100306aac.html_ 
(http://bigten.cstv.com/sports/m-footbl/archive/100306aac.html) 
 
Now hopefully the 'Cats will make me a happy alum by playing big at home in  
a game on the tube in a "winnable" game.
 
Paul Levinson
From rstetson at capps-assoc.com  Fri Oct 13 10:28:51 2006
From: rstetson at capps-assoc.com (Roy Lamberton)
Date: Fri Oct 13 10:29:02 2006
Subject: [NU Sports] NU Sports News Digest for 10/13
Message-ID: <000801c6eedc$49d88420$6401a8c0@DAVIDXP>

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          All the News that Fits We Link
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        Northwestern University Athletics

FOOTBALL

     Time To Make Statement
 
http://www.dailynorthwestern.com/news/2006/10/13/Gameday/Time-To.Make.Statement-
2349365.shtml
     Fitzgerald introduces halftime to Wildcats
 
http://www.pioneerlocal.com/mortongrove/sports/93453,mg-nufbl-101206-s1.article
     from the Purdue Boilerstation:
     Coach's death never far from Wildcats' thoughts
 
http://www.boilerstation.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20061013/SPORTS020101/61
0130333/1122/BOILER
     Player stories in the Daily Gameday
     Sherrick McManis 'Batman' Returns, Plays Defense Too
 
http://www.dailynorthwestern.com/news/2006/10/13/Gameday/batman.Returns.Plays.De
fense.Too-2349392.shtml
     Q&A: Nick Roach
 
http://www.dailynorthwestern.com/news/2006/10/13/Gameday/Qa.Nick.Roach-2349403.s
html
     Corey Wootton Ends' Stock, Athleticism On The Rise
 
http://www.dailynorthwestern.com/news/2006/10/13/Gameday/Ends-Stock.Athleticism.
On.The.Rise-2349373.shtml

     Commentary
     Dorsey So Much To Say, Yet So Little Space
 
http://www.dailynorthwestern.com/news/2006/10/13/Gameday/So.Much.To.Say.Yet.So.L
ittle.Space-2349360.shtml
     Cronin: Fitzgerald getting put to test
      http://www.dailysouthtown.com/sports/cronin/95655,1SD5-13.article
     Whitehead Questioning Fitzgerald
      http://sports.wnur.org/analysts/whitehead20061011.htm

     Purdue at Northwestern, 11 a.m., Saturday
      http://www.dailysouthtown.com/sports/95640,1SD6-13.article

     Later Friday - the Purple Reign Pregame Intel Report

Next up for the Cats:

     10/14 Purdue Boilermakers [Family Weekend]
     Paint Purdue Impressed: QB Dazzling
 
http://www.dailynorthwestern.com/news/2006/10/13/Gameday/Paint.Purdue.Impressed.
Qb.Dazzling-2349381.shtml
     + Boilermakers are upbeat heading into pivotal game
      http://www.fortwayne.com/mld/newssentinel/sports/15750088.htm
     + Receiving corps lead Boilers to Northwestern
      http://www.purdueexponent.org/?module=article&story_id=2390
     +  Avril embraces new role on defense
 
http://www.boilerstation.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20061012/SPORTS020101/61
0120309/1122/BOILER

     Big 10
     Five games may set stage for college football's national title
 
http://rssfeeds.usatoday.com/%7Er/UsatodaycomCollegeFootball-TopStories/%7E3/366
27726/2006-10-12-whiteside_x.htm

     Big Ten Weekly Football Release - Oct. 9
      http://bigten.cstv.com/sports/m-footbl/spec-rel/100906aad.html
     + 2006 Composite Schedule/Results
      http://bigten.cstv.com/sports/m-footbl/sched/big10-m-footbl-sched.html
     + ESPN Plus NU-Purdue Clearances
      http://bigten.cstv.com/sports/m-footbl/archive/100306aac.html

RECRUITING

     Chris Hagerup Visiting Northwestern this weekend
      http://scout.scout.com/a.z?s=179&p=9&c=2&cid=578914&nid=2531647&fhn=1

BASKETBALL

     Goodman: Off-season rule should be changed
      http://feeds.feedburner.com/%7Er/foxsports/rss/cbk/%7E3/36630960/6052812
     Myslenski: Fun is about to begin
 
http://chicagosports.chicagotribune.com/sports/college/illinois/cs-061012skiponc
bk,1,6711414.column?coll=cs-college-headlines
     Hoops, here it almost is
      http://www.suntimes.com/sports/colleges/95042,CST-SPT-cage13.article
     + National stories, local links
 
http://www.indystar.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20061013/SPORTS/610130436/100
4

     You know you really loved him, deep down inside
     Legends of Coaching award goes to Keady
 
http://www.boilerstation.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20061013/SPORTS02010201/
610130323/1122/BOILER

CROSS COUNTRY

     Freshman Attracted Coach Showing 'Fight', Now Running In NU's Top Five
 
http://www.dailynorthwestern.com/news/2006/10/13/Sports/Freshman.Attracted.Coach
.Showing.fight.Now.Running.In.Nus.Top.Five.cross.Country-2349144.shtml

FIELD HOCKEY

     'Dynamic Duo' Looking For Weekend Win
 
http://www.dailynorthwestern.com/news/2006/10/13/Sports/dynamic.Duo.Looking.For.
Weekend.Win.field.Hockey-2349140.shtml

GOLF

     No. 16 'Cats Carry Momentum to Mercedes-Benz Collegiate Championships
      http://nusports.cstv.com/sports/w-golf/spec-rel/101206aab.html

LACROSSE

     2007 Schedule Announced for Back-to-Back National Champs
      http://nusports.cstv.com/sports/w-lacros/spec-rel/101206aaa.html

SOCCER

     Men
     'October Slump' Plaguing Wildcats
 
http://www.dailynorthwestern.com/news/2006/10/13/Sports/october.Slump.Plaguing.W
ildcats.mens.Soccer-2349103.shtml
     + Goals Elusive In Defeat Shutout
 
http://www.dailynorthwestern.com/news/2006/10/12/Sports/Goals.Elusive.In.Defeat.
Shutout.mens.Soccer-2346573.shtml

     Women
     NU Hoosier Carries Team On Road
 
http://www.dailynorthwestern.com/news/2006/10/13/DailyOnline/Nu.Hoosier.Carries.
Team.On.Road.womens.Soccer-2349073.shtml


SWIMMING

     Northwestern Drops Season Opener to California, 191-102
      http://nusports.cstv.com/sports/w-swim/recaps/101206aab.html 

VOLLEYBALL

     New Setter Plays Hard Ball
 
http://www.dailynorthwestern.com/news/2006/10/13/DailyOnline/New-Setter.Plays.Ha
rd.Ball.volleyball-2349044.shtml

MISCELLANY

     Faculty to recruits: Think twice because of Chief
 
http://chicagosports.chicagotribune.com/sports/college/illinois/cs-061012chief,1
,2382550.story?coll=cs-college-headlines

     Big Ten and Fox Announce Official Name and Unveil Logo for Big Ten Network
      http://bigten.cstv.com/genrel/101206aaa.html

Alumni

     Barry Cofield Rookie Report - Week 5
      http://story.scout.com/a.z?s=179&p=2&c=578615

     Joe Girardi Padres manager enters Cubs mix
 
http://www.chicagotribune.com/sports/baseball/cubs/cs-061012cubs,1,2904379.story
?coll=chi-sportstop-hed

     PGA
     Luke Donald - off this week

     Nationwide Tour Permian Basic Charity Golf Classic
      http://www.pgatour.com/tournaments/h038
     Jess Daley - Full Scorecard
      http://www.pgatour.com/players/scorecard/285331/h038/2006
     Tom Johnson - Full Scorecard
      http://www.pgatour.com/players/scorecard/466839/h038/2006

   2006 Football Opponents

     10/21 Michigan State Spartans 11 AM [HC]  - Channel 2
     10/28 @ Michigan Wolverines 11 AM ABC/ESPN
     11/4 @ Iowa Hawkeyes
     11/11 Ohio State [Lasalle Bank Day]
     11/18 Illinois Fighting Illini [Senior Day]
     Reasons to keep eyes on Illini
      http://www.suntimes.com/sports/colleges/92744,CST-SPT-ill12.article 

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From rstetson at capps-assoc.com  Sat Oct 14 10:53:09 2006
From: rstetson at capps-assoc.com (Roy Lamberton)
Date: Sat Oct 14 10:53:04 2006
Subject: [NU Sports] Chat during the game
Message-ID: <002c01c6efa8$d9254380$6401a8c0@DAVIDXP>

Same Spot - the Scout Message Boards

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From tbng at comcast.net  Sat Oct 14 14:03:52 2006
From: tbng at comcast.net (Dennis W. Brandt)
Date: Sat Oct 14 14:04:18 2006
Subject: [NU Sports] Ineptitude
Message-ID: <000801c6efc3$7d766490$c402a8c0@DennisMachine>

Purdue said, "Take this game, Northwestern.  We don't want it.  We'll miss field goals, fumble, muff punts, throw interceptions right into your defenders' hands, anything you want.  It's yours for the taking."  We didn't want it.

The offensive line, reputed by some to among the best in the Big 10 pre-season, remains a sieve.  Desmond Taylor played without doubt the worst game I've ever seen from an offensive lineman.  He looked utterly lost, and the coaching staff made no adjustments to assist him.  Andrew Brewer was no better.  He simply cannot find a receiver.  The coaching seems lost in the fog, too.  Nothing but soft corner coverage, and it rarely works.  One quarterback run after another in an offense that has nothing else going for it.  The one deep pass was a honey, but it was one and done.  Meanwhile. while we were on defense, it was like experiencing Chinese water torture.  Dink pass - first down.  Dink pass - first down, etc. ad infinitum.  The defensive line mounted nothing resembling a pass rush.  I had no idea it would be this bad.  Worse, it doesn't appear to be improving in the least.

Sigh.
From neonrye at aol.com  Sat Oct 14 14:36:13 2006
From: neonrye at aol.com (neonrye@aol.com)
Date: Sat Oct 14 14:36:17 2006
Subject: [NU Sports] Fwd: Let's Play to Win
In-Reply-To: <c06.6c74b86.32628b0a@aol.com>
References: <c06.6c74b86.32628b0a@aol.com>
Message-ID: <8C8BDDF24C80DB5-3A8-2D8F@FWM-M03.sysops.aol.com>

 I tried to send thisw about an hour ago, but sent it to wrong "address".  My comments follow:
 
 
-----Original Message-----
From: NEONRye@aol.com
To: nwu-sports-bounces@tssi.com
Sent: Sat, 14 Oct 2006 2:48 PM
Subject: Let's Play to Win


  
This game is agony to watch on ESPN-PLUS.  I don't know what it is like at Ryan, but seeing us afraid to use Brewer to throw, afraid of a mistake at all on offense, so totally predicatable is frustrating beyond belief.  You can hear the boos quite clearly on TV, so I think I am not alone.   I swore I would not utter any negative words about the 'Cats on the list, in the wake of Coach Walker's death and to give Fitz and his staff the Honeymoon to which they are entitled, but I can't take it any longer.   We just wasted Tyrell Sutton's wonderful 54-yard run with offensive play calling that is straight out of the Amos Alonzo Stagg Era--or maybe Jim Thorpe's.  Whatever happened to a pass on first or second down?  Do we have a Tight End?  If so, does McGhee have any calls that use his skills?    When I was at NU our big cheers were "Let's Go North" or "Let's Go South".  Now it's a Hobson's Choice:  "Let's Go East (or West)" or the always-popular "Let's Go Nowhere" or "Let's Go Backwards".  
 
It's Homecoming, the sun is shining, the wind is blowing, and the Lake and Evanston look gorgeous on the tube.  Why can't we PLAY TO WIN?
 
If anyone thinks I'm out of line or being too tough, I'll accept that verdict, but I just had to vent.  I really thought we had a chance today, and with the missed field goals, I was hoping that a little magic was in the air.  But our failure of nerve has seemingly doomed us--although there are still 9 minutes or so left to play.  And I refuse to give up on a 'Cat team with that much time left.......And Indiana is in process of possibly upsetting the Hawkeyes, so who knows.....
 
By the way, anyone think Glen Mason may be in trouble up at Minny, due to their abysmal showing today against the Badgers?
 
 
Paul Levinson
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From johnl at mac.com  Sat Oct 14 19:12:39 2006
From: johnl at mac.com (John Labbe)
Date: Sat Oct 14 19:12:51 2006
Subject: [NU Sports] Fwd: Let's Play to Win
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Yeah, it was a rough day.  The offense can't get anything done.  I called the one long pass, although I thought it would go to Kim Thompson.  It was the one beautiful play of the day.  The Sutton run was nice, too, but the Purdue defense lined up unlike any other time in the day as though they were certain we would pass.  Sutton showed them what would happen if they did that.

I think we have to get our best passer in as quarterback.  I've heard that Bacher may be our best passer.  Brewer is supposed to be our best rushing quarterback.  Well, we don't need a rushing quarterback.  We have plenty of talented running backs.  We need a passing game.  If Bacher is healthy and can do a better job passing, I think we need to give him a chance.  Given that this season looks like a loss, there's no point in trying to focus on one QB.  We may as well try them all out.




On Saturday, October 14, 2006, at 03:40PM, <neonrye@aol.com> wrote:

> I tried to send thisw about an hour ago, but sent it to wrong "address".  My comments follow:
> 
> 
>-----Original Message-----
>From: NEONRye@aol.com
>To: nwu-sports-bounces@tssi.com
>Sent: Sat, 14 Oct 2006 2:48 PM
>Subject: Let's Play to Win
>
>
>  
>This game is agony to watch on ESPN-PLUS.  I don't know what it is like at Ryan, but seeing us afraid to use Brewer to throw, afraid of a mistake at all on offense, so totally predicatable is frustrating beyond belief.  You can hear the boos quite clearly on TV, so I think I am not alone.   I swore I would not utter any negative words about the 'Cats on the list, in the wake of Coach Walker's death and to give Fitz and his staff the Honeymoon to which they are entitled, but I can't take it any longer.   We just wasted Tyrell Sutton's wonderful 54-yard run with offensive play calling that is straight out of the Amos Alonzo Stagg Era--or maybe Jim Thorpe's.  Whatever happened to a pass on first or second down?  Do we have a Tight End?  If so, does McGhee have any calls that use his skills?    When I was at NU our big cheers were "Let's Go North" or "Let's Go South".  Now it's a Hobson's Choice:  "Let's Go East (or West)" or the always-popular "Let's Go Nowhere" or "Let's Go B!
 a!
> ckwards".  
> 
>It's Homecoming, the sun is shining, the wind is blowing, and the Lake and Evanston look gorgeous on the tube.  Why can't we PLAY TO WIN?
> 
>If anyone thinks I'm out of line or being too tough, I'll accept that verdict, but I just had to vent.  I really thought we had a chance today, and with the missed field goals, I was hoping that a little magic was in the air.  But our failure of nerve has seemingly doomed us--although there are still 9 minutes or so left to play.  And I refuse to give up on a 'Cat team with that much time left.......And Indiana is in process of possibly upsetting the Hawkeyes, so who knows.....
> 
>By the way, anyone think Glen Mason may be in trouble up at Minny, due to their abysmal showing today against the Badgers?
> 
> 
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From michael.vance at att.net  Sat Oct 14 19:29:31 2006
From: michael.vance at att.net (Michael Vance)
Date: Sat Oct 14 19:29:42 2006
Subject: [NU Sports] Fwd: Let's Play to Win
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The only thing I'll disagree with is to point out that Homecoming is 
next week.

neonrye@aol.com wrote:
> This game is agony to watch on ESPN-PLUS.  I don't know what it is like at Ryan, but seeing us afraid to use Brewer to throw, afraid of a mistake at all on offense, so totally predicatable is frustrating beyond belief.  You can hear the boos quite clearly on TV, so I think I am not alone.   I swore I would not utter any negative words about the 'Cats on the list, in the wake of Coach Walker's death and to give Fitz and his staff the Honeymoon to which they are entitled, but I can't take it any longer.   We just wasted Tyrell Sutton's wonderful 54-yard run with offensive play calling that is straight out of the Amos Alonzo Stagg Era--or maybe Jim Thorpe's.  Whatever happened to a pass on first or second down?  Do we have a Tight End?  If so, does McGhee have any calls that use his skills?    When I was at NU our big cheers were "Let's Go North" or "Let's Go South".  Now it's a Hobson's Choice:  "Let's Go East (or West)" or the always-popular "Let's Go Nowhere" or "Let's Go Ba!
>  ckwards".  
>  
> It's Homecoming, the sun is shining, the wind is blowing, and the Lake and Evanston look gorgeous on the tube.  Why can't we PLAY TO WIN?
>  
> If anyone thinks I'm out of line or being too tough, I'll accept that verdict, but I just had to vent.  I really thought we had a chance today, and with the missed field goals, I was hoping that a little magic was in the air.  But our failure of nerve has seemingly doomed us--although there are still 9 minutes or so left to play.  And I refuse to give up on a 'Cat team with that much time left.......And Indiana is in process of possibly upsetting the Hawkeyes, so who knows.....
>  
> By the way, anyone think Glen Mason may be in trouble up at Minny, due to their abysmal showing today against the Badgers?
>  
>  
> Paul Levinson
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From rstetson at capps-assoc.com  Sat Oct 14 20:49:14 2006
From: rstetson at capps-assoc.com (Roy Lamberton)
Date: Sat Oct 14 20:49:09 2006
Subject: [NU Sports] Fwd: Let's Play to Win
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I thought CJ played well enuff to start next week, or was it that Brewer played
that badly.

CJs first two passes were dropped, maybe because the receivers didn't expect the
ball since Brew was running for his life so much.

Interesting that PU later started blitzing CJ and he had trouble but he looked
more like Baz in there.

Just my observations.

rsl

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> -----Original Message-----
> From: nwu-sports-bounces@tssi.com 
> [mailto:nwu-sports-bounces@tssi.com] On Behalf Of John Labbe
> Sent: Saturday, October 14, 2006 8:13 PM
> To: neonrye@aol.com
> Cc: nwu-sports@romaine.tssi.com
> Subject: Re: [NU Sports] Fwd: Let's Play to Win
> 
> 
> Yeah, it was a rough day.  The offense can't get anything 
> done.  I called the one long pass, although I thought it 
> would go to Kim Thompson.  It was the one beautiful play of 
> the day.  The Sutton run was nice, too, but the Purdue 
> defense lined up unlike any other time in the day as though 
> they were certain we would pass.  Sutton showed them what 
> would happen if they did that.
> 
> I think we have to get our best passer in as quarterback.  
> I've heard that Bacher may be our best passer.  Brewer is 
> supposed to be our best rushing quarterback.  Well, we don't 
> need a rushing quarterback.  We have plenty of talented 
> running backs.  We need a passing game.  If Bacher is healthy 
> and can do a better job passing, I think we need to give him 
> a chance.  Given that this season looks like a loss, there's 
> no point in trying to focus on one QB.  We may as well try 
> them all out.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> On Saturday, October 14, 2006, at 03:40PM, <neonrye@aol.com> wrote:
> 
> > I tried to send thisw about an hour ago, but sent it to wrong 
> > "address".  My comments follow:
> > 
> > 
> >-----Original Message-----
> >From: NEONRye@aol.com
> >To: nwu-sports-bounces@tssi.com
> >Sent: Sat, 14 Oct 2006 2:48 PM
> >Subject: Let's Play to Win
> >
> >
> >  
> >This game is agony to watch on ESPN-PLUS.  I don't know what 
> it is like at Ryan, but seeing us afraid to use Brewer to 
> throw, afraid of a mistake at all on offense, so totally 
> predicatable is frustrating beyond belief.  You can hear the 
> boos quite clearly on TV, so I think I am not alone.   I 
> swore I would not utter any negative words about the 'Cats on 
> the list, in the wake of Coach Walker's death and to give 
> Fitz and his staff the Honeymoon to which they are entitled, 
> but I can't take it any longer.   We just wasted Tyrell 
> Sutton's wonderful 54-yard run with offensive play calling 
> that is straight out of the Amos Alonzo Stagg Era--or maybe 
> Jim Thorpe's.  Whatever happened to a pass on first or second 
> down?  Do we have a Tight End?  If so, does McGhee have any 
> calls that use his skills?    When I was at NU our big cheers 
> were "Let's Go North" or "Let's Go South".  Now it's a 
> Hobson's Choice:  "Let's Go East (or West)" or the 
> always-popular "Let's Go Nowhere" or "Let's Go B!
>  a!
> > ckwards".
> > 
> >It's Homecoming, the sun is shining, the wind is blowing, 
> and the Lake 
> >and Evanston look gorgeous on the tube.  Why can't we PLAY TO WIN?
> > 
> >If anyone thinks I'm out of line or being too tough, I'll 
> accept that 
> >verdict, but I just had to vent.  I really thought we had a 
> chance today, and with the missed field goals, I was hoping 
> that a little magic was in the air.  But our failure of nerve 
> has seemingly doomed us--although there are still 9 minutes 
> or so left to play.  And I refuse to give up on a 'Cat team 
> with that much time left.......And Indiana is in process of 
> possibly upsetting the Hawkeyes, so who knows.....
> > 
> >By the way, anyone think Glen Mason may be in trouble up at 
> Minny, due 
> >to their abysmal showing today against the Badgers?
> > 
> > 
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From johnl at mac.com  Sun Oct 15 00:24:43 2006
From: johnl at mac.com (John Labbe)
Date: Sun Oct 15 00:24:56 2006
Subject: [NU Sports] Fwd: Let's Play to Win
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I agree that CJ looked better when he was in there, but he wasn't 
getting as much pressure, which I think was due to the fact that Purdue 
had pulled its starters and/or just weren't playing as hard with a 3-TD 
lead with a minute to play.  But he did look more confident and more 
able to get out of the pocket and still make a play.  In any case, I've 
heard he's our best passer, so if that's true and he's playing well 
enough in practice, I say give him the call for the next game.  What do 
we have to lose?


On Oct 14, 2006, at 8:49 PM, Roy Lamberton wrote:

> I thought CJ played well enuff to start next week, or was it that 
> Brewer played
> that badly.
>
> CJs first two passes were dropped, maybe because the receivers didn't 
> expect the
> ball since Brew was running for his life so much.
>
> Interesting that PU later started blitzing CJ and he had trouble but 
> he looked
> more like Baz in there.
>
> Just my observations.
>
> rsl
>
> ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
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> (http://www.purplewildcats.com)
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>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: nwu-sports-bounces@tssi.com
>> [mailto:nwu-sports-bounces@tssi.com] On Behalf Of John Labbe
>> Sent: Saturday, October 14, 2006 8:13 PM
>> To: neonrye@aol.com
>> Cc: nwu-sports@romaine.tssi.com
>> Subject: Re: [NU Sports] Fwd: Let's Play to Win
>>
>>
>> Yeah, it was a rough day.  The offense can't get anything
>> done.  I called the one long pass, although I thought it
>> would go to Kim Thompson.  It was the one beautiful play of
>> the day.  The Sutton run was nice, too, but the Purdue
>> defense lined up unlike any other time in the day as though
>> they were certain we would pass.  Sutton showed them what
>> would happen if they did that.
>>
>> I think we have to get our best passer in as quarterback.
>> I've heard that Bacher may be our best passer.  Brewer is
>> supposed to be our best rushing quarterback.  Well, we don't
>> need a rushing quarterback.  We have plenty of talented
>> running backs.  We need a passing game.  If Bacher is healthy
>> and can do a better job passing, I think we need to give him
>> a chance.  Given that this season looks like a loss, there's
>> no point in trying to focus on one QB.  We may as well try
>> them all out.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Saturday, October 14, 2006, at 03:40PM, <neonrye@aol.com> wrote:
>>
>>> I tried to send thisw about an hour ago, but sent it to wrong
>>> "address".  My comments follow:
>>>
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: NEONRye@aol.com
>>> To: nwu-sports-bounces@tssi.com
>>> Sent: Sat, 14 Oct 2006 2:48 PM
>>> Subject: Let's Play to Win
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> This game is agony to watch on ESPN-PLUS.  I don't know what
>> it is like at Ryan, but seeing us afraid to use Brewer to
>> throw, afraid of a mistake at all on offense, so totally
>> predicatable is frustrating beyond belief.  You can hear the
>> boos quite clearly on TV, so I think I am not alone.   I
>> swore I would not utter any negative words about the 'Cats on
>> the list, in the wake of Coach Walker's death and to give
>> Fitz and his staff the Honeymoon to which they are entitled,
>> but I can't take it any longer.   We just wasted Tyrell
>> Sutton's wonderful 54-yard run with offensive play calling
>> that is straight out of the Amos Alonzo Stagg Era--or maybe
>> Jim Thorpe's.  Whatever happened to a pass on first or second
>> down?  Do we have a Tight End?  If so, does McGhee have any
>> calls that use his skills?    When I was at NU our big cheers
>> were "Let's Go North" or "Let's Go South".  Now it's a
>> Hobson's Choice:  "Let's Go East (or West)" or the
>> always-popular "Let's Go Nowhere" or "Let's Go B!
>>  a!
>>> ckwards".
>>>
>>> It's Homecoming, the sun is shining, the wind is blowing,
>> and the Lake
>>> and Evanston look gorgeous on the tube.  Why can't we PLAY TO WIN?
>>>
>>> If anyone thinks I'm out of line or being too tough, I'll
>> accept that
>>> verdict, but I just had to vent.  I really thought we had a
>> chance today, and with the missed field goals, I was hoping
>> that a little magic was in the air.  But our failure of nerve
>> has seemingly doomed us--although there are still 9 minutes
>> or so left to play.  And I refuse to give up on a 'Cat team
>> with that much time left.......And Indiana is in process of
>> possibly upsetting the Hawkeyes, so who knows.....
>>>
>>> By the way, anyone think Glen Mason may be in trouble up at
>> Minny, due
>>> to their abysmal showing today against the Badgers?
>>>
>>>
>>> Paul Levinson
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From sjtruog at yahoo.com  Sun Oct 15 02:12:47 2006
From: sjtruog at yahoo.com (SjT (Stephen J. Truog))
Date: Sun Oct 15 02:12:51 2006
Subject: [NU Sports] WILDCAT WRAP: Purdue 31, Northwestern 10
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WILDCAT WRAP ? PURDUE 31, NORTHWESTERN 10

Someone scripted a perfect first few plays for the
Northwestern Wildcats on their first offensive series
against Purdue on Saturday. Unfortunately, it didn?t
appear to be the same person who called the rest of
the offensive game for NU, as the same tired script
failed again and again to generate offense in a 31-10
defeat to the Boilermakers that was actually much more
lopsided than the score.

It was a familiar story for Wildcat fans this year ?
the Cats actually were in the game at halftime, just
like they were at Penn State and Wisconsin the
previous Big Ten games. But the second half saw
virtually zero offense and a tired defense that
eventually crumbled as the floodgates opened and routs
ensued to lead to an 0-3 Big Ten start. The defense
looked frustrated, the receivers who kept running
routes downfield for naught showed frustration and the
fans became downright furious ? and rightly so ? at
offensive playcalling that basically seemed to
alternate between quarterback draws and screen passes
all day. And while I never condone booing amateur
student athletes and have preached patience with this
young coaching staff in this transition year ? the
chorus of boos for the offensive offensive series from
the second quarter on was well deserved.

The beautiful, crisp autumn day in Evanston actually
began promising despite a couple of lackluster tackles
by the defense on Purdue?s opening drive. The Boilers
moved the ball in small chunks downfield as they would
all day, but a chip-shot field goal attempt went
further vertically than horizontally and missed,
giving the Cats life and the ball.

Our first offensive series was a thing of beauty ? it
may have been scripted, but it certainly didn?t seem
to be scripted by the same coaches who called the rest
of the game. It effectively different types of runs, a
screen pass and even featured a beautiful deep ball
from Andrew Brewer to Shaun Herbert to set up the
opening touchdown by Brandon Roberson. 

But that would be it for the NU offense on the day.
The second possession ended on an interception where
Brewer was asked to roll out against his body, then
twist around and throw and it sailed away. An
interception generated by the Cats defense led to an
impressive 43-yard field goal by Joel Howells into the
same windy end zone where Purdue?s kicker missed a
chip shot, but after getting the ball in Boiler
territory, we should have scored six.

As for the defense, they gave up huge amounts of
yardage in small chunks as Purdue consistently nickel
and dimed down the field 
 sometimes missing scoring
chances with bad kicks or turnovers, but converting
enough to head into halftime with a 17-10 lead. They
added another touchdown in the third and wrapped up
the scoring with a flea-flicker bomb with six minutes
remaining to rub a bit of salt in the wound. It wasn?t
the best day tackling or yardage wise 
 or covering
slant routes over the middle, but the defense did show
a few blitz packages and covered the fade route well.
The time of possession wasn?t big in Purdue?s favor
because they went out of bounds a lot, but as far as
time on the field, the NU defense had to have been on
the field more than two-thirds of the game and the
fatigue showed at the end.

But it was the offense that drew the ire of the fans
and showed little signs of progressing after that
opening drive. The offensive line continued to be the
biggest disappointment of the year, failing to block
downfield on a couple of well set up screens and
allowing constant pressure and a blindside hit
untouched on Brewer. But it was the playcalling that
was particularly maddening. The screens would not work
? Purdue?s defense is somewhat fast, but not
Buckeye-fast, yet we kept going to that well long
after it became obvious that our linemen couldn?t
block the Boilers on the play. And there were so many
quarterback draws today that it was reminiscent of the
Ron Meyer era ? Brewer is a tough kid and has a lot of
guts, but if he keeps taking the beating he?s getting
game after game, he won?t last until November. Some of
the fault may lie with Brewer pulling it down early
under pressure, but most seemed to be called. And
there were no deep passes (or even medium passes)
after that first drive. Receivers looked upset that
they were constantly working against single coverage
and open downfield but never getting a chance.

A series that typified the day for the Cats offense
was their final one of the first half. It seemed like
after long drives in the first quarter both ways (and
no punts), each team had the ball 20 times in the
final 10:00 of the second quarter. Despite having
field position around midfield thanks to kick
interference and all timeouts left, the Cats tried
draws on 2nd and 9 and 3rd and 5 and punted. Purdue
got it back on their own 14 with a minute left but
didn?t sit on it. A few passes later, they had a field
goal. They wanted it more and they got it. I?m not
saying throw all the time, but we didn?t even seem to
try a throw after the first drive except those screens
that just were not working. As a friend of mine
sitting next to me said, ?is John Schoop back and
calling the plays?? If the definition of insanity is
trying the same thing that fails again and again and
expecting different results, then our playcalling on
Saturday was utterly insane.

It got worse from there. After being down 17-10 at
half, the Cats came out of the locker room with the
ball and ran a pitch, a QB draw and then failed to
even touch Purdue?s top pass rusher on 3rd and 5 as he
blindsided Brewer in what could easily have been a
fumble. And down 24-10 heading into the fourth, the
Cats were still miraculously in the game despite a
huge day of yardage for Purdue and a 54-yard run by
Sutton set up the Cats at the Purdue 25. The Cats
followed with two straight runs up the gut for nothing
and then ran a painful 3rd and 10 play that combined
not only the failed screen pass idea of the day but
also had Brewer roll out and throw against his body
for a loss of four. And what was a 1st and 10 at the
25 turned in to a 42-yard field goal attempt 
 that
turned into a 47-yard attempt after a delay of game 

that turned into a 52-yard attempt that was nixed for
a punt after a SECOND straight delay of game. WAKE UP
COACHES!

And Tyrell Sutton was again sorely underused. I don?t
know if he?s been in Fitz? doghouse or there?s another
reason, but he?s just not getting the carries this
year. And as he showed with that 54-yard burst where
he single-handedly seemed to fight off the Purdue
team, he?s still a threat to go all the way on every
carry. So in the words of some SC flunkie we?d rather
forget in Evanston, just give Tyrell the bleepin? ball
already! If anyone?s gonna get 20 carries up the gut
in purple, better #19 than a quarterback.

GAME BALLS
* Joel Howells. Not many options today, so the one
game ball goes to the guy who shocked me and kicked a
43-yard field goal into the swirling wind that caused
Purdue to miss two gimmes at that same goalpost.
Overall, not a bad day for special teams as our kick
and punt coverage made tackles right away and kickoffs
were deep. The one bad spot ? and it was BAD ? was the
punting game. These were knuckleball quacks with the
hangtime of an elephant on a trapeze wire. Yes, one
was downed at the 3, but that was more the coverage
than the kick.

THINGS TO WORK ON
* Play calling. Play calling. Play calling. If they
put nine in the box, you need to pass. And a screen
for ?2 does not count. And a draw may catch the
offense by surprise once or twice, but not on EVERY
second-and-long or third-and-long. A play action fake
or a fake draw-to-pullback and pass down the middle
would have been BIG since every Boilermaker seemed to
be heading toward the line of scrimmage at the snap.
Sooner or later the training wheels have to come off
and you have to let the freshman QB throw. The midway
mark in the season might be a good time for that.
* Where?s Tyrell? Get the reigning freshman of the
year the ball. Jordan may make for a good breather or
short-yardage back, but there?s no way that we should
keep neglecting this fine talent for quarterback draw
after quarterback draw. Yes, we have three
quarterbacks, but if you keep feeding them to the
wolves, we?ll be down to one in a hurry.
* Offensive line play. This is the biggest
disappointment of the year so far. And they?re not
getting better at run blocking or pass protecting 

and it didn?t even look like they had practiced
blocking on the screen. Someone?s gotta protect our
young quarterback and that?s SUPPOSED to be the line.
Get together and start working as one.

AROUND THE LEAGUE
* It should be pretty clear now that the Big Ten has
the top two teams in the land. Michigan wins without
Manningham in a frenzied Happy Valley and the Bucks
take care of business against the nose-diving
Spartans. Unless there?s a major upset, that November
game should be 11-0 vs. 11-0 and #1 vs. #2 and
possibly the biggest Big Game in history.
* Iowa looked like they were a threat to Michigan, but
they were just looking ahead to Michigan and got
ambushed by Indiana. With MSU, Minnesota and Purdue
left, the Hoosiers may even begin to utter the B-word
in a couple weeks.
* While Iowa has fallen, the biggest darkhorse left is
the one in Badger clothing. Wisconsin rolled over a
reeling Gopher squad and could run the table with no
OSU on the schedule to finish 11-1. They played
Michigan tough but have been forgotten since ? but
don?t overlook them in the title talk if the big two
stumble and they?ll certainly be a BCS contender if
they win out and the hordes of Cheeseheads ? trying to
forget a dismal Packer season ? wave big ticket sales
in front of the bowl officials.
* So much for Illinois? rebirth 
 a heartbreaking loss
to Indiana followed by a loss to Ohio? Ouch.

I saw a lot of effort on our defense and special teams
today 
 and a lot of heart from some members of the
offense, especially Brewer and Sutton 
 and a lot of
promise from that opening drive. But the Cats were
really let down by the O-line and coaching staff
today. Homecoming is winnable with MSU in turmoil 

but we have to get a big-time change in the coaching
calls to give the team a chance. No more kid gloves ?
let the frosh try and fail or try and succeed, just
let ?em try something other than a draw or screen that
DID NOT WORK ANY OF THE TWENTY FIVE OTHER TIMES IT WAS
CALLED TODAY! I don?t blame the receivers for their
frustration, nor the fans. This was a frustrating game
that we were still in for most of the second half but
never seemed to try to win. Granted it would have been
tough to repeat the Iowa game last year without Baz,
but the setup was similar to that game except we
didn?t try and snatch it away at the end and it seemed
like our players? hands were tied by the coaches.

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From sjtruog at yahoo.com  Sun Oct 15 02:27:11 2006
From: sjtruog at yahoo.com (SjT (Stephen J. Truog))
Date: Sun Oct 15 02:27:14 2006
Subject: [NU Sports] Fwd: Let's Play to Win
In-Reply-To: <8C8BDDF24C80DB5-3A8-2D8F@FWM-M03.sysops.aol.com>
Message-ID: <20061015072711.84770.qmail@web52907.mail.yahoo.com>

> This game is agony to watch on ESPN-PLUS.  I don't
> know what it is like at Ryan, but seeing us afraid
> to use Brewer to throw, afraid of a mistake at all
> on offense, so totally predicatable is frustrating
> beyond belief.  You can hear the boos quite clearly
> on TV, so I think I am not alone.   I swore I would
> not utter any negative words about the 'Cats on the
> list, in the wake of Coach Walker's death and to
> give Fitz and his staff the Honeymoon to which they
> are entitled, but I can't take it any longer.   We

Never thought I'd say it, but I agree (though I did
not boo - still seems odd to do that at a college game
to your home team). The coaches are fair game to boo
and today ours just did not do the job.

>  Do we have a Tight End?  If so, does McGhee have
> any calls that use his skills?    When I was at NU

And we set up a fake-draw pass to the TE so well ...
but we never thought of faking the QB draw nor do we
seem to have a TE.

> the tube.  Why can't we PLAY TO WIN?

Definitely - with the top two teams in America left on
the schedule, bowl dreams are long gone. So let's let
the kid try. If he throws a pick or two, at least he
threw.

> If anyone thinks I'm out of line or being too tough,
> I'll accept that verdict, but I just had to vent.  I
> really thought we had a chance today, and with the

No doubt we had a chance despite Purdue's big yardage
- if I were on the D or a wideout, I'd be frustrated
too that we didn't try.

> By the way, anyone think Glen Mason may be in
> trouble up at Minny, due to their abysmal showing
> today against the Badgers?

Could be - with a game at Columbus left, he can't lose
to Iowa or anywhere else to make a bowl and no bowl
trip at all would probably be even worse for Minny
fans than the perennial trips to Nashville and El
Paso. But if they get to 6-6, I don't think they'll be
left out since the Big Ten will likely have two BCS
teams this year and six ... maybe seven bowl-eligible
teams, so there will be plenty of spots.

I believe we can beat MSU and Illinois at home ... but
only if we TRY, and that's directed more at the
coaches than players (though maybe some at the
O-line).

GO CATS!!!
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From johnadeg at bellatlantic.net  Sun Oct 15 06:37:57 2006
From: johnadeg at bellatlantic.net (John A. DeGroat)
Date: Sun Oct 15 06:39:59 2006
Subject: [NU Sports] Fwd: Let's Play to Win
In-Reply-To: <20061015072711.84770.qmail@web52907.mail.yahoo.com>
References: <20061015072711.84770.qmail@web52907.mail.yahoo.com>
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The problem starts with the fact that we have a running back that 
masquerades as a quarterback.  He can't throw which is why there is no 
running game anymore.

John DeGroat

SjT (Stephen J. Truog) wrote:

>>This game is agony to watch on ESPN-PLUS.  I don't
>>know what it is like at Ryan, but seeing us afraid
>>to use Brewer to throw, afraid of a mistake at all
>>on offense, so totally predicatable is frustrating
>>beyond belief.  You can hear the boos quite clearly
>>on TV, so I think I am not alone.   I swore I would
>>not utter any negative words about the 'Cats on the
>>list, in the wake of Coach Walker's death and to
>>give Fitz and his staff the Honeymoon to which they
>>are entitled, but I can't take it any longer.   We
>>    
>>
>
>Never thought I'd say it, but I agree (though I did
>not boo - still seems odd to do that at a college game
>to your home team). The coaches are fair game to boo
>and today ours just did not do the job.
>
>  
>
>> Do we have a Tight End?  If so, does McGhee have
>>any calls that use his skills?    When I was at NU
>>    
>>
>
>And we set up a fake-draw pass to the TE so well ...
>but we never thought of faking the QB draw nor do we
>seem to have a TE.
>
>  
>
>>the tube.  Why can't we PLAY TO WIN?
>>    
>>
>
>Definitely - with the top two teams in America left on
>the schedule, bowl dreams are long gone. So let's let
>the kid try. If he throws a pick or two, at least he
>threw.
>
>  
>
>>If anyone thinks I'm out of line or being too tough,
>>I'll accept that verdict, but I just had to vent.  I
>>really thought we had a chance today, and with the
>>    
>>
>
>No doubt we had a chance despite Purdue's big yardage
>- if I were on the D or a wideout, I'd be frustrated
>too that we didn't try.
>
>  
>
>>By the way, anyone think Glen Mason may be in
>>trouble up at Minny, due to their abysmal showing
>>today against the Badgers?
>>    
>>
>
>Could be - with a game at Columbus left, he can't lose
>to Iowa or anywhere else to make a bowl and no bowl
>trip at all would probably be even worse for Minny
>fans than the perennial trips to Nashville and El
>Paso. But if they get to 6-6, I don't think they'll be
>left out since the Big Ten will likely have two BCS
>teams this year and six ... maybe seven bowl-eligible
>teams, so there will be plenty of spots.
>
>I believe we can beat MSU and Illinois at home ... but
>only if we TRY, and that's directed more at the
>coaches than players (though maybe some at the
>O-line).
>
>GO CATS!!!
>-SjT
>
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From DPENDERG at aol.com  Sun Oct 15 08:35:44 2006
From: DPENDERG at aol.com (DPENDERG@aol.com)
Date: Sun Oct 15 08:35:50 2006
Subject: [NU Sports] What needs to be said...
Message-ID: <c8f.38c083.32639330@aol.com>

We all want Fitz to succeed, but at this point it really does seem  that he's 
in over his head. Cats have been out-coached in  every game they've played 
(excluding the opener perhaps).  This season is  done.  With our schedule, we 
will be lucky to win one more game and that  may be a stretch (MSU desperate now 
for a W and Illinois is improved).  
 
Of course, Fitz's job is secure for now (anybody know length of his  
contract??), but if the team is performing at the  same level at midpoint next season, 
then his future will really be  under serious review.  I don't care that he's 
one of the best ever to  wear purple?  I don't care that he's an engaging, 
enthusiastic  guy?  He may have -- as some of us feared last July -- simply 
taken on  too much too soon.  Admittedly, he is not getting help from his 
assistants  and I expect we'll see major staff changes after the season.  That may  be 
a step in the right direction.  I hope so, but it will not suppress my  
disappointment with the play of a Wildcat team that had most starters  returning 
and which should have generated a much better record than the  2-10 or 3-9 where 
we are now headed.  
From tbng at comcast.net  Sun Oct 15 10:02:08 2006
From: tbng at comcast.net (Dennis W. Brandt)
Date: Sun Oct 15 10:02:30 2006
Subject: [NU Sports] Fitz's honeymoon isn't over yet
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Message-ID: <000f01c6f06a$e2b01cf0$c402a8c0@DennisMachine>

I'm not ready to jump all over Fitz yet, but honeymoons don't last forever. 
The quarterback-superior play has become tiresome.  It's time to go deeper. 
It hasn't helped that the only QB with any experience began the season on 
crutches.  Kafka showed some flashes of ability during his stint, but 
clearly Brewer should never take another snap from center.  Make a wide 
receiver out of him.  Bacher must start next week.  I am VERY concerned with 
the play of the offensive line.  I theorized last season that Basanez may 
have made the offensive line look better than it was, but with five 
returning starters (counting Trevor Rees) we should be getting much better 
play from them this season.  The number of missed blocks yesterday was 
painful to behold.  I actually pitied Desmond Taylor yesterday - while I was 
swearing at him - but he wasn't alone, just the worst of the bunch. 

From NEONRye at aol.com  Sun Oct 15 10:58:40 2006
From: NEONRye at aol.com (NEONRye@aol.com)
Date: Sun Oct 15 10:59:01 2006
Subject: [NU Sports] WILDCAT WRAP: Purdue 31, Northwestern 10
Message-ID: <c70.26ad98e.3263b4b0@aol.com>

To follow up on two of Stephen's always-interesting thoughts:
 
1) According to the ESPN + announcers, Sutton hurt his shoulder early, and  
that's why, at least yesterday, his "touches" were limited.  However, there  
does not seem to be the same magic chemistry between TS and Fitz that there was  
with Coach Walk, who, of course, was himself a running back, and a good one,  
from Ohio, who didn't go to tOSU.  And I agree that I'd rather ride  
TS--assuming he is relatively healthy--than Brewer.  One is a proven  thoroughbred, 
the other simply unproven.
 
2) Something special may be happening at, of all places, Indiana.   
Watching(on ESPN 2) their players celebrate in the stands and on the field  with their 
fans--and with Coach Hoeppner's recovery from his serious brain  surgery--you 
can see a program building and a commitment to football  competitiveness that 
hasn't been present in many, many years in  Bloomington.  They probably will 
get crushed by the Buckeyes this week,  only because the Bucks are doing that 
to everyone, but IU, at least for now, is  no longer a "patsy" and missing them 
on the schedule this year is not missing  the "gimme" it was in the past.  I 
would rather have Minny right now at  Ryan than IU.
 
Paul Levinson
From sjtruog at yahoo.com  Sun Oct 15 11:01:33 2006
From: sjtruog at yahoo.com (SjT (Stephen J. Truog))
Date: Sun Oct 15 11:01:43 2006
Subject: [NU Sports] What needs to be said...
In-Reply-To: <c8f.38c083.32639330@aol.com>
Message-ID: <20061015160133.39038.qmail@web52911.mail.yahoo.com>

> We all want Fitz to succeed, but at this point it
> really does seem  that he's 
> in over his head. Cats have been out-coached in 

What's important to remember, though, is Fitz was
pretty clear at the start of the year that he'd let
his coaches coach. It's a great philosophy, IMO ... if
you have the personnel in the coaching ranks to do
that.

>From what I saw yesterday, Fitz is doing his job of
firing up the kids and keeping the team motivated --
but the offensive coordinator is not doing his job.
Now McGee is new as well, but I would say he's clearly
the one in over his head right now and if he keeps
performing like this, Fitz needs to step in and become
more hands-on.

> done.  With our schedule, we 
> will be lucky to win one more game and that  may be
> a stretch (MSU desperate now 

I still think we can get two more W's if we open up
the offense. The defense was trying new things
(blitzes, bump coverages on the fades, etc.) - let the
O try as well and we can get those W's or at least set
up for next season. This season was going to be tough
anyway and probably a loss -- but it's a total loss if
we keep failing to use it to improve for next year.

> Of course, Fitz's job is secure for now (anybody
> know length of his  
> contract??), but if the team is performing at the 
> same level at midpoint next season, 
> then his future will really be  under serious

I want Fitz on the sidelines in Evanston for a long
time. He is the right man for the job. Yes, there will
be growing pains, but he gets at least five years
before he's even thought of as "under review," IMO.
The coordinators, OTOH, have really gotta show that
they deserve this freedom Fitz is giving them and so
far they have not. I've at least seen Colby trying new
things - I need to see McGee open up that offense.

> will not suppress my  
> disappointment with the play of a Wildcat team that
> had most starters  returning 

Well, losing a head coach, offensive coordinator,
offensive leader and defensive leader would be
devastating for most teams regardless of whether or
not the rest of the team returned.

I'm willing to give Fitz a lot of slack and think he's
doing most of what he should this year as a head coach
- represent the program well, recruit hard, not have
his team quit and motivate them through hard times.
But if he's giving his coordinators this much freedom
(again, a good idea in most circumstances), they
really need to show that they've earned it and Fitz'
biggest mistake may be not having his coordinators
prove themselves worthy. If he needs to become more
hands on, I'm sure he will, but I won't blame him for
trying the other way and while I'm frustrated and
disappointed, there's no way his job is even in
jeopardy of being in jeopary for a long time. This is
our guy and I expect to see Coach Fitz in purple for
decades in Evanston.

GO CATS!!!
-SjT

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From tkmaycock at yahoo.com  Sun Oct 15 11:04:04 2006
From: tkmaycock at yahoo.com (Tom Maycock)
Date: Sun Oct 15 11:04:19 2006
Subject: [NU Sports] The one bright spot....
In-Reply-To: <000f01c6f06a$e2b01cf0$c402a8c0@DennisMachine>
Message-ID: <20061015160405.14854.qmail@web33101.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

Sherrick McManis

We've all seen what he can do on kickoffs, but I think he's well on his
way to becoming a monster player on defense and kick coverage. NU had 3
corners on the field most of the game, so McManis got a lot of playing
time. And more often than not, he had his guy covered like a glove.  

Granted, Cole was probably assigned to the best receiver most of the
time, and I believe McManis did give up the touchdown pass in the
corner of the endzone, but that was after a stumble, and another case
of no pressure on the QB. 

He looks to have all the tools, and I wouldn't be surprised if he
passes up Battle as the #2 corner before the year is out. 

And on punt and kick coverages, he was everywhere. A lot of guys can be
the first one to reach (and then miss) the punt returner. McManis is
the first guy there, and actually tackles them. 

I don't think I've been as excited about an NU defensive player since
Hudaifa Ismaeli started making his presence felt. 

Tom

From mlinhardt at netzero.net  Sun Oct 15 12:22:42 2006
From: mlinhardt at netzero.net (mlinhardt@netzero.net)
Date: Sun Oct 15 12:24:08 2006
Subject: [NU Sports] Fitz's honeymoon isn't over yet
Message-ID: <20061015.102318.1008.663170@webmail02.nyc.untd.com>

Gimme a break!

I am as disgusted by our playcalling as anyone, but Fitz is CLEARLY 
still in the honeymoon period.

Fitz was put in such a difficult position and he and his OC are making 
rookie mistakes.

I always have hope for a successful season, but give me one year(at 
NU) where a 1st year starter showed promise(successful season).  If we 
come out of this season with a solid number 1 quarterback we will have 
accomplished a lot.

I doubt a team coached by RW would be in much better position -- see 
1st year BB.

I am disappointed in individuals more than the coaching staff:
* Kevin Mims -- What happened after a super Sun Bowl?  Sophomore slump?
* Marquice Cole -- Hello!  Where are you?
* OL -- I thought that was our one strength.  Maybe BB was covering up 
their deficiencies.
* Nick Roach -- I thought he would have a monster season.  The next 
Napo.

The positive surprises:
* Demterious Eaton -- Wow!
* Sharrick McMannis -- get him in to do a reverse.  It seems he can do 
everything else.
* Terrell Jordan -- survived Tyrell's freshman year and is still 
playing hard.
* Chris Malleo -- turned his play around and got control of his 
temper.  A few quiet, but important plays.
* Run defense -- I do think it is better than last year.
* Penalties -- Our team is playing under control and minimizing the 
stupid penalties.



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From sjtruog at yahoo.com  Sun Oct 15 15:03:14 2006
From: sjtruog at yahoo.com (SjT (Stephen J. Truog))
Date: Sun Oct 15 15:03:18 2006
Subject: [NU Sports] The one bright spot....
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Excellent point - I totally forgot to give him a game
ball as I was fuming over the play calling on the
flight home. My friend Sue (the one who made the
Schoop comment:) ) said he was her player of the day
-- he looked good all around. And while the punts may
have been ugly, punt and kick coverage -- led by
McManis -- were excellent all day.

GO CATS!!!
-SjT

--- Tom Maycock <tkmaycock@yahoo.com> wrote:

> Sherrick McManis
> 
> We've all seen what he can do on kickoffs, but I
> think he's well on his
> way to becoming a monster player on defense and kick
> coverage. NU had 3
> corners on the field most of the game, so McManis
> got a lot of playing
> time. And more often than not, he had his guy
> covered like a glove.  
> 
> Granted, Cole was probably assigned to the best
> receiver most of the
> time, and I believe McManis did give up the
> touchdown pass in the
> corner of the endzone, but that was after a stumble,
> and another case
> of no pressure on the QB. 
> 
> He looks to have all the tools, and I wouldn't be
> surprised if he
> passes up Battle as the #2 corner before the year is
> out. 
> 
> And on punt and kick coverages, he was everywhere. A
> lot of guys can be
> the first one to reach (and then miss) the punt
> returner. McManis is
> the first guy there, and actually tackles them. 
> 
> I don't think I've been as excited about an NU
> defensive player since
> Hudaifa Ismaeli started making his presence felt. 
> 
> Tom
> 
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From mlinhardt at netzero.net  Sun Oct 15 16:24:16 2006
From: mlinhardt at netzero.net (mlinhardt@netzero.net)
Date: Sun Oct 15 16:25:27 2006
Subject: [NU Sports] Fitz's honeymoon isn't over yet
Message-ID: <20061015.142435.26494.1032027@webmail51.nyc.untd.com>

I forgot to mention Corey Wooten.  He is the other defender besides 
Demeterious Eaton that has been a positive surprise.


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From DPENDERG at aol.com  Sun Oct 15 20:25:12 2006
From: DPENDERG at aol.com (DPENDERG@aol.com)
Date: Sun Oct 15 20:25:24 2006
Subject: [NU Sports] What needs to be said...
Message-ID: <27a.106057b6.32643978@aol.com>

 
As I said, I want Fitz to succeed, but as in any job situation, there is  
always the possibility that he's simply not the right one for the position of  
running a major college football program regardless of his purple credentials.  
Give him five years?  No, that will not (and should not)  happen.  We simply 
cannot tolerate a series of poor (2-10, 3-9, or 4-8)  seasons and I doubt the 
University will either.  
 
I think this season's disaster clearly invites major changes in  the coaching 
staff, which I am convinced will happen, the first really important  
management decision Fitz will make.  The status quo is simply  unacceptable. The 
coaching staff -- both offense and defense -- has failed  despite a lot of veterans 
returning on both sides of the ball.   Northwestern football is not a job 
training program for young, inexperienced  coaches.
 
 
In a message dated 10/15/2006 12:06:25 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,  
sjtruog@yahoo.com writes:

> We  all want Fitz to succeed, but at this point it
> really does seem   that he's 
> in over his head. Cats have been out-coached in  

What's important to remember, though, is Fitz was
pretty clear at  the start of the year that he'd let
his coaches coach. It's a great  philosophy, IMO ... if
you have the personnel in the coaching ranks to  do
that.

>From what I saw yesterday, Fitz is doing his job  of
firing up the kids and keeping the team motivated --
but the  offensive coordinator is not doing his job.
Now McGee is new as well, but I  would say he's clearly
the one in over his head right now and if he  keeps
performing like this, Fitz needs to step in and become
more  hands-on.

> done.  With our schedule, we 
> will be lucky  to win one more game and that  may be
> a stretch (MSU desperate  now 

I still think we can get two more W's if we open up
the  offense. The defense was trying new things
(blitzes, bump coverages on the  fades, etc.) - let the
O try as well and we can get those W's or at least  set
up for next season. This season was going to be tough
anyway and  probably a loss -- but it's a total loss if
we keep failing to use it to  improve for next year.

> Of course, Fitz's job is secure for now  (anybody
> know length of his  
> contract??), but if the  team is performing at the 
> same level at midpoint next season,  
> then his future will really be  under serious

I want Fitz  on the sidelines in Evanston for a long
time. He is the right man for the  job. Yes, there will
be growing pains, but he gets at least five  years
before he's even thought of as "under review," IMO.
The  coordinators, OTOH, have really gotta show that
they deserve this freedom  Fitz is giving them and so
far they have not. I've at least seen Colby  trying new
things - I need to see McGee open up that offense.

>  will not suppress my  
> disappointment with the play of a Wildcat  team that
> had most starters  returning 

Well, losing a  head coach, offensive coordinator,
offensive leader and defensive leader  would be
devastating for most teams regardless of whether or
not the  rest of the team returned.

I'm willing to give Fitz a lot of slack and  think he's
doing most of what he should this year as a head coach
-  represent the program well, recruit hard, not have
his team quit and  motivate them through hard times.
But if he's giving his coordinators this  much freedom
(again, a good idea in most circumstances), they
really  need to show that they've earned it and Fitz'
biggest mistake may be not  having his coordinators
prove themselves worthy. If he needs to become  more
hands on, I'm sure he will, but I won't blame him for
trying the  other way and while I'm frustrated and
disappointed, there's no way his job  is even in
jeopardy of being in jeopary for a long time. This is
our guy  and I expect to see Coach Fitz in purple for
decades in Evanston.

GO  CATS!!!
-SjT

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From MHRJGScott at aol.com  Sun Oct 15 21:26:40 2006
From: MHRJGScott at aol.com (MHRJGScott@aol.com)
Date: Sun Oct 15 21:26:52 2006
Subject: [NU Sports] What needs to be said...
Message-ID: <c5f.4209212.326447e0@aol.com>

 
In a message dated 10/15/2006 9:26:28 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,  
DPENDERG@aol.com writes:

Give him  five years?  No, that will not (and should not)  happen.  We  
simply 
cannot tolerate a series of poor (2-10, 3-9, or 4-8)  seasons  and I doubt 
the 
University will either.  



Not reasonable, I am not a football coach, but am a kgsm and cas nu guy who  
turned around 3 companies and retired at 56. He needs at least 2 years to get  
his bearings, his coaching team, and philosophy together. Give him a break 
due  to the difficult circumstances he inherited. I hate losing as much as 
anybody,  but cut some slack here.
From bwdolphin146 at yahoo.com  Mon Oct 16 00:13:50 2006
From: bwdolphin146 at yahoo.com (Brad Wilson)
Date: Mon Oct 16 00:14:06 2006
Subject: [NU Sports] now what?
Message-ID: <20061016051350.47145.qmail@web51307.mail.yahoo.com>

I completely concur with the analysis of Mr. Levinson
and Mr. Truog and Mr. Labbe on the Perdoo disaster, so
I won't be (too) repetitive, I hope.

I'm willing to give the coaching staff a few
mulligans, given the dreadful situation that brought
them to where they are, esp. on things such as
playcalling -- Mike Dunbar was a tested, grizzled
veteran, and what NU has now is nothing like that.
McGhee may be the real deal, but now he's almost as
green as the QBs, which, had Randy Walker still been
around, would have been OK, but with an even less
experienced coach than McGhee supervising, isn't the
ideal situation.

I can see how the coaches can think this team should
be able to run the ball, esp. vs. a defense like
Perdoo's. However, screens and draws only work as
changeups to power running plays and an effective
passing game. In baseball terms, if you don't have the
fastball, the changeup looks awfully hittable. Thus,
NU's problems. 

But what I am not willing to forgive a coaching staff
is things like the back-to-back delay of game
penalties that cost NU a scoring chance. That, to me,
is pure incompetence, and it just continues the
inattention to and incompetence of special teams play
that has characterized the Walker/Fitz era for all too
long. Hire a special-teams guru and turn him loose: a
team with so little margin for error as NU MUST be
highly competent at special teams. I am tired of all
the excuses and obfuscations as to why NU cannot excel
on special teams. Just do it. Now.

I thought Neil Hayes in the Sun-Times made an
excellent point Sunday: the NU defense is good enough
to win games with a high-scoring offense but not good
enough to win by itself. I was at Penn State, listened
to the whole UW game and saw the Perdoo game, and I
insist that the D's effort was, while by no means '85
Bears-ish, good enough to win all three. They create
turnovers and can make enough stops to win if the
offense had a pulse. Since it doesn't, the d gets worn
down and eventually conks out. That, I understand. 

That said, NU clearly has some defenders, such as
Reggie McPherson, who aren't Big Ten caliber. Let's
hope they get weeded out. Can we see more of McManis? 

I do think NU needs to attack more on defense and not
let QBs sit there and pick away. The blitzes and
aggressive defense seem to work when they are used,
much more so than the passive pick-us-apart schemes
that we can't cover adequately to make work.

But until the offense shows a pulse not much of this
matters. Yes, Sutton should unquestionably get the
ball more, but if there's no blocking, what good will
that do? Yes, Brewer seems to have a problem passing,
and the playcalling doesn't help, but when the QB has
.001 second to throw before six defenders are in the
backfield, does it matter who's the QB? Does anyone
else think Lane and Thompson are underutilized? What
about lining Jordan or Roberson or even McManis up at
a wideout spot? How about Peterman as an "H" back? 

So my query: now what? My answers:

1) tell Colby to sell out and do anything possible to
rush the passer. This may lead to big plays against NU
but may also lead to big plays FOR the Cats (picks,
fumbles, sacks), critical when the offense is
struggling so; short fields would be nice.

2) Dump the screens and draws and that kind of
gimmick, put in Abernethy and Cobb and use the
Illinois-game 2003 second-half game plan: power
running with Sutton, Jordan and Roberson. If nothing
else it will take some burden off the defense.

3) If Kafka's healthy, play him. He looked much more
secure (albeit against non-Big Ten foes) than Brewer
has. I am not a Bacher fan, based on what I have seen,
but he deserves a chance.

4) Don't worry about wins and losses. NU isn't
touching UM, OSU and Iowa and I doubt NU can stay with
Michigan State's offense. Illinois, maybe, but not if
NU tops out at 10 points. Just teach, instruct, and
hope for improvement and if the end result is 2-10
with a team ready to compete in 2007, well, not ideal,
but maybe the best we can expect.

5) And hire a special teams coach, now. Now!

Brad Wilson 





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From cherron604 at aol.com  Mon Oct 16 02:57:38 2006
From: cherron604 at aol.com (cherron604@aol.com)
Date: Mon Oct 16 02:57:42 2006
Subject: [NU Sports] Questions
Message-ID: <8C8BF0FE21D5740-1080-1D6E@MBLK-M34.sysops.aol.com>

1 - Quarterbacks
 
Everybody involved in the program has known for 2 or three years that BB was not going to be around in 2006.  If the expectation was to continue to play a very quarterback-centric offense, shouldn't the expectation have been that the pipeline would contain as many strong QB candidates (with real solid credentials) as possible ?  Yet all we had in the pipeline for 2006 was Bacher, Kafka and Brewer.  Should we have made the calculation a few years ago that, since this offense requires such a high-level of QB skill, if we could not maintain that skill level in the recruiting pipeline, we should move to a more typical Big-Ten type offense that was less dependent on highly-skilled (hard to find) quarterbacks...?  Is it as simple as saying spread offense=lots of QB talent=lots of talented QB recruits, or, if you can't bring those recruits in, migrate toward a more typical offense ?
 
2 - Offensive Coordinators
 
Kevin Wilson took over as OC in 1999 with 9 years head coach or OC experience.  He had great success for 3 years, then left, not for a head coaching job, but to be OC at Oklahoma (where he remains).  In 2002 Mike Dunbar took over as OC with 17 years head coach or OC experience.  He had a great run for 4 years before leaving for another lateral move (OC at Cal).  Now we have promoted an OC with no head coaching or OC experience.  This raises a couple of questions:
 
a) Why have 2 very accomplished OC's left the program, since they were not leaving to become head coaches ?  Was it money ?  If it was purely money, does the university need to review the pay for the assistant coaches ?  Or did they leave for some other reason ?  If we are not going to pay adequately to retain good OC talent, do we have to reconsider our commitment to playing football at the Big Ten level ?
 
b) Isn't it safe to assume that the offense we have been using requires exceptional OC talent as well as exceptional QB talent ?  We might further assume that exceptional OC talent is at least as hard to find as (if not harder to find than) excepional QB talent.  Given both of these, should a calculation have been made that unless the supply of exceptional OC talent could be maintained and guaranteed, we might need to transition to a more standard offense, not requiring such exceptional OC talent to implement ?
 
c) Is it reasonable to assume that you could replace two OC's with a combined 26 years of head coach or OC experience prior to their arrival with an OC with no head coach or OC experience ?  Why exactly did we think we needed to be an OC training ground when for the last seven years we had been more of a finishing school for highly-experienced, highly-talented OC's ?  Did we even consider hiring anybody with HC or OC experience when Dunbar left ?  
 
Garrick McGee is probably a great guy, and he might be a good OC someday, but why exactly did we determine that he should get his on-the-job training here ?  Shouldn't that training happen at some place like Toledo or Western Illinois ? 
 
Greg Colby is another issue entirely, to be discussed separately.
 
Chuck Herron   Tech '85
 
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From DPENDERG at aol.com  Mon Oct 16 05:43:56 2006
From: DPENDERG at aol.com (DPENDERG@aol.com)
Date: Mon Oct 16 05:44:04 2006
Subject: [NU Sports] What needs to be said...
Message-ID: <58d.5346e02.3264bc6c@aol.com>

 
If Fitz is truly in over his head and we see two or three very poor seasons  
without any improvement,  then I think the University will look for an  
alternative. A five-year honeymoon is, I think, not in the cards.  The  problem is 
that repeated bad performances adversely affects everything from  stadium 
attendance and alumni support to recruitment, a spiral outcome we  saw in the 80s 
and do not want to repeat.
 
Avoiding that unpleasant prospect, however, will require Fitz's leadership  
in staff management and restructuring starting after this season.  The  likely 
2-10 or 3-9 record will scream for change.  The status quo will not  stand.  
What Fitz does with his coaching roster could  be the most important factor 
governing his own future at Northwestern.   




In a message dated 10/15/2006 10:27:49 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,  
MHRJGScott@aol.com writes:


Not  reasonable, I am not a football coach, but am a kgsm and cas nu guy who  
 
turned around 3 companies and retired at 56. He needs at least 2 years to  
get  
his bearings, his coaching team, and philosophy together. Give  him a break 
due  to the difficult circumstances he inherited. I hate  losing as much as 
anybody,  but cut some slack  here.
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From johnadeg at bellatlantic.net  Mon Oct 16 06:33:50 2006
From: johnadeg at bellatlantic.net (John A. DeGroat)
Date: Mon Oct 16 06:34:02 2006
Subject: [NU Sports] Questions
In-Reply-To: <8C8BF0FE21D5740-1080-1D6E@MBLK-M34.sysops.aol.com>
References: <8C8BF0FE21D5740-1080-1D6E@MBLK-M34.sysops.aol.com>
Message-ID: <45336E1E.8010104@bellatlantic.net>

Walker or no Walker, they knew the  pantry was empty and they could go 
to ranked programs rather than live through what is going on now..

John DeGroat

cherron604@aol.com wrote:

>1 - Quarterbacks
> 
>Everybody involved in the program has known for 2 or three years that BB was not going to be around in 2006.  If the expectation was to continue to play a very quarterback-centric offense, shouldn't the expectation have been that the pipeline would contain as many strong QB candidates (with real solid credentials) as possible ?  Yet all we had in the pipeline for 2006 was Bacher, Kafka and Brewer.  Should we have made the calculation a few years ago that, since this offense requires such a high-level of QB skill, if we could not maintain that skill level in the recruiting pipeline, we should move to a more typical Big-Ten type offense that was less dependent on highly-skilled (hard to find) quarterbacks...?  Is it as simple as saying spread offense=lots of QB talent=lots of talented QB recruits, or, if you can't bring those recruits in, migrate toward a more typical offense ?
> 
>2 - Offensive Coordinators
> 
>Kevin Wilson took over as OC in 1999 with 9 years head coach or OC experience.  He had great success for 3 years, then left, not for a head coaching job, but to be OC at Oklahoma (where he remains).  In 2002 Mike Dunbar took over as OC with 17 years head coach or OC experience.  He had a great run for 4 years before leaving for another lateral move (OC at Cal).  Now we have promoted an OC with no head coaching or OC experience.  This raises a couple of questions:
> 
>a) Why have 2 very accomplished OC's left the program, since they were not leaving to become head coaches ?  Was it money ?  If it was purely money, does the university need to review the pay for the assistant coaches ?  Or did they leave for some other reason ?  If we are not going to pay adequately to retain good OC talent, do we have to reconsider our commitment to playing football at the Big Ten level ?
> 
>b) Isn't it safe to assume that the offense we have been using requires exceptional OC talent as well as exceptional QB talent ?  We might further assume that exceptional OC talent is at least as hard to find as (if not harder to find than) excepional QB talent.  Given both of these, should a calculation have been made that unless the supply of exceptional OC talent could be maintained and guaranteed, we might need to transition to a more standard offense, not requiring such exceptional OC talent to implement ?
> 
>c) Is it reasonable to assume that you could replace two OC's with a combined 26 years of head coach or OC experience prior to their arrival with an OC with no head coach or OC experience ?  Why exactly did we think we needed to be an OC training ground when for the last seven years we had been more of a finishing school for highly-experienced, highly-talented OC's ?  Did we even consider hiring anybody with HC or OC experience when Dunbar left ?  
> 
>Garrick McGee is probably a great guy, and he might be a good OC someday, but why exactly did we determine that he should get his on-the-job training here ?  Shouldn't that training happen at some place like Toledo or Western Illinois ? 
> 
>Greg Colby is another issue entirely, to be discussed separately.
> 
>Chuck Herron   Tech '85
> 
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From NEONRye at aol.com  Mon Oct 16 07:01:47 2006
From: NEONRye at aol.com (NEONRye@aol.com)
Date: Mon Oct 16 07:01:53 2006
Subject: [NU Sports] Questions
Message-ID: <c35.552b56d.3264ceab@aol.com>

Let's not start blaming our Administration.  How can it only be money  when 
the OC's went to Oklahoma and Cal, two Top-25 programs?  Let's be  realistic, 
those are high-profile Asst. Coaching Positions, much higher in  profile than 
NU, like it or not, and much more of a launching pad to a HC  Position.
 
Paul Levinson
From NEONRye at aol.com  Mon Oct 16 07:04:31 2006
From: NEONRye at aol.com (NEONRye@aol.com)
Date: Mon Oct 16 07:04:42 2006
Subject: [NU Sports] Cubs Managerial Job
Message-ID: <c1f.6e2e34a.3264cf4f@aol.com>

According to Buster Olney, ESPN Baseball Analyst, on "Mike & Mike" this  
morning, Lou Piniella's agent has apparently reached agreement with Cubs  
management on contract terms for "Sweet Lou".  Thus, Joe Girardi, who  looked like the 
best fit for Wrigleyville, will have to look elsewhere.   Too bad, another 
lost opportunity for the Cubs, IMHO, although I have never  liked the anyway, as 
a Mets fan, preferring the South Siders.
 
Paul Levinson
From rstetson at capps-assoc.com  Mon Oct 16 09:06:31 2006
From: rstetson at capps-assoc.com (Roy Lamberton)
Date: Mon Oct 16 09:09:51 2006
Subject: [NU Sports] NU Sports News Digest for 10/16
Message-ID: <003301c6f12c$488ccd40$6401a8c0@DAVIDXP>

www.PurpleWildcats.com
for Purple Reign & the NU Sports List
Weekend Wrapup Edition

For the Northwestern Wildcats, the Soccer Teams got on a winning track, so did
Volleyball, but not so Football. All the fallout, plus news from Purdue and our
homecoming opponent, MSU.


     All the News that Fits We Link
    Your Index to on-line News about
    Northwestern University Athletics

FOOTBALL

     Northwestern Suffers a 31-10 Setback to Purdue
      http://nusports.cstv.com/sports/m-footbl/recaps/101406aaa.html 
     + Moving the ball continue to slow NU
 
http://chicagosports.chicagotribune.com/sports/college/cs-061014nu,1,2416709.sto
ry?coll=cs-college-headlines 
     + Fitzgerald: "Communication issues" did NU in
 
http://chicagosports.chicagotribune.com/sports/college/cs-061014nunotes,1,207891
9.story?coll=cs-college-headlines 
     + Bacher back in the QB picture
 
http://chicagosports.chicagotribune.com/sports/college/cs-061016colfootnu,1,6222
706.htmlstory?coll=cs-college-headlines 
     + SjT: View from the Stands - Purdue 31, NU 10
      http://northwestern.scout.com/2/579600.html 
     + QB continues to be area of concern for Wildcats
      http://www.suntimes.com/sports/colleges/97104,CST-SPT-nunt15.article 
     + Cats Drop 3rd Straight Game to Big Ten Foe (football)
 
http://www.dailynorthwestern.com/news/2006/10/16/Sports/Cats-Drop.3rd.Straight.G
ame.To.Big.Ten.Foe.football-2351810.shtml 
     + Each Loss Moves Cats Closer to Bad Reputation
 
http://www.dailynorthwestern.com/news/2006/10/16/Sports/Each-Loss.Moves.Cats.Clo
ser.To.Bad.Reputation-2351817.shtml 
     + Early Shoulder Injury Fails to Sideline Sutton (Football)
 
http://www.dailynorthwestern.com/news/2006/10/16/Sports/Early.Shoulder.Injury.Fa
ils.To.Sideline.Sutton.football-2351840.shtml 
     + Ups and Downs Mark Defense's Day
 
http://www.dailynorthwestern.com/news/2006/10/16/Sports/Ups-And.Downs.Mark.Defen
ses.Day-2351820.shtml 
     + Third-down stops remain a problem
      http://www.dailyherald.com/sports/northwestern.asp?id=238610 
     + Northwestern's woes continue
      http://www.dailyherald.com/sports/northwestern.asp?id=238609 

     From the Message board: The Big Picture
      http://mb4.scout.com/fnorthwesternfrm3.showMessage?topicID=1451.topic 

Purdue Boilermakers

     Boilermakers return to Ross-Ade with a little confidence
      http://www.post-trib.com/sports/98315,purdue.article 
     + Purdue Takes Down Northwestern 31-10
      http://purduesports.cstv.com/sports/m-footbl/recaps/101406aac.html 
     + Painter's 431 passing yards leads Boilers to win
      http://www.purdueexponent.org/?module=article&story_id=2395 
     + Defense looks to stop physical rushing attack
      http://www.purdueexponent.org/?module=article&story_id=2349 
     + Defensive line earns praise
 
http://www.boilerstation.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20061016/SPORTS020101/61
0160328/1122/BOILER 
     + Boilers back on track
 
http://www.boilerstation.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20061015/SPORTS020101/61
0150339/1122/BOILER 
     + Many hands contribute on offense
 
http://www.boilerstation.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20061015/SPORTS020101/61
0150340/1122/BOILER 
     + Defense rebounds against Wildcats
 
http://www.boilerstation.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20061015/SPORTS020101/61
0150338/1122/BOILER 
     + Calm Painter steadies Boiler offense
 
http://www.boilerstation.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20061015/SPORTS020101/61
0150342/1122/BOILER 
     + Healthy Orton another weapon for offense
 
http://www.boilerstation.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20061015/SPORTS020101/61
0150341/1122/BOILER 
     + Grading the Boilermakers
 
http://www.boilerstation.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20061015/SPORTS020101/61
0150354/1122/BOILER 
     + Orton becomes threat for Purdue in its prolific passing game
 
http://www.indystar.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20061016/SPORTS0602/610160391
/1004/SPORTS 
     + Painter's 431 passing yards leads Boilers to win
      http://www.purdueexponent.org/?module=article&story_id=2395 

Next up for the Cats:

     10/21 Michigan State Spartans 11 AM [Homecoming] - Channel 2
     OSU adds to Smith's coaching woes
 
http://chicagosports.chicagotribune.com/sports/college/cs-061014ohiostate,1,1106
286.story?coll=cs-college-headlines 
     + Spartans Fall To No. 1 Buckeyes
      http://msuspartans.cstv.com/sports/m-footbl/recaps/101406aaa.html 
     + State pounded 38-7 by Buckeyes
      http://michiganstate.scout.com/2/579342.html 
     $ Cox: Team positive, must eliminate big plays
      http://michiganstate.scout.com/2/578942.html 
     + Sea of red
      http://www.statenews.com/article.phtml?pk=38172 
     + Heisman hopeful Smith shines
      http://www.statenews.com/article.phtml?pk=38160 
     + MSU squanders opportunities
      http://www.statenews.com/article.phtml?pk=38161 
     + MSU might not win again this season
      http://www.statenews.com/article.phtml?pk=38162 
     + No more talk, Spartans - just win
      http://www.statenews.com/article.phtml?pk=38163 
     + It's time for Spartans to pick up the pieces
 
http://www.mlive.com/spartans/stories/index.ssf?/base/sports-0/1160955602325510.
xml&coll=1 
     + Losing, mistakes, injuries continue in MSU's loss to Buckeyes
 
http://www.mlive.com/spartans/stories/index.ssf?/base/sports-0/1160874606292120.
xml&coll=1 
     + Spartan injuries continue to mount
 
http://www.mlive.com/spartans/stories/index.ssf?/base/sports-0/116087640237100.x
ml&coll=1 
     + That was then, this is interesting
 
http://www.mlive.com/spartans/weblog/index.ssf?/mtlogs/mlive_grinzongreen/archiv
es/2006_10.html#194329 
     + Bullied by the Buckeyes: No. 1 Ohio State easily sends Spartans to fourth
straight loss
 
http://www.greenandwhite.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20061015/GW01/610150635/
1023/GW 
     + MSU-Ohio State notebook: Buckeyes add to MSU's pain
 
http://www.greenandwhite.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20061015/GW01/610150637/
1023/GW 
     + Early errors cost MSU any chance
 
http://www.greenandwhite.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20061015/GW01/610150636/
1023/GW 
     + Smith too much for MSU
 
http://www.greenandwhite.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20061015/GW01/610150638/
1023/GW 

     Big 10 [The rest of NU's schedule]
      file:///C|/Documents and Settings/rsl/My Documents/PurpleReign/NU Sports
News.html#Spring_Ftbl 
     Teddy Greenstein: Big Ten pair in good standing
 
http://chicagosports.chicagotribune.com/sports/columnists/cs-061015greenstein,1,
5838817.column?coll=cs-college-headlines 
     + Michigan AP No. 2 behind Ohio State
 
http://chicagosports.chicagotribune.com/sports/columnists/cs-061013appoll,1,4829
202.story?coll=cs-college-headlines 
     + OSU-Michigan winner likely to end up in title game
      http://www.dailysouthtown.com/sports/98560,1SPT7-16.article 
     + With Ohio State on top, BCS ratings debut with many 'what-ifs'
 
http://rssfeeds.usatoday.com/%7Er/UsatodaycomCollegeFootball-TopStories/%7E3/375
46125/2006-10-15-bcs-standings_x.htm 

RECRUITING

     the Illini lose a big commit
     Gordon: No problem with Weber, Illinois
 
http://chicagosports.chicagotribune.com/sports/college/cs-061015gordon,1,7810384
.story?coll=cs-college-headlines 

BASKETBALL

     Tipoff right around corner
 
http://chicagosports.chicagotribune.com/sports/college/northwestern/cs-061013col
legebasketballpreseasonpreviews,1,3641205.htmlstory?coll=cs-college-nwestern-pri
nt 


FIELD HOCKEY

     'Cats Fall to Buckeyes, 4-0
      http://nusports.cstv.com/sports/w-fieldh/recaps/101506aab.html 

GOLF

     No. 16 Northwestern Finishes 14th at Mercedes-Benz Championships
      http://nusports.cstv.com/sports/w-golf/recaps/101506aaa.html 
     + 16th-Ranked Wildcats Move Up at Mercedes-Benz
      http://nusports.cstv.com/sports/w-golf/recaps/101406aaa.html 

LACROSSE

     This one was out earlier ...
     Top ten women's classes released
 
http://www.insidelacrosse.com/page.cfm?pagerid=2&news=fdetail&storyid=137092 

SOCCER

     Men
     Wildcats Halt Two-Game Skid With 2-0 Victory Over Michigan
      http://nusports.cstv.com/sports/m-soccer/recaps/101506aab.html 
     + Northwestern Gets Its 'Groove' Back, Defeats Michigan
 
http://www.dailynorthwestern.com/news/2006/10/16/Sports/Northwestern.Gets.Its.gr
oove.Back.Defeats.Michigan-2351835.shtml 
     + Goals Elusive In Defeat Shutout
 
http://www.dailynorthwestern.com/news/2006/10/12/Sports/Goals.Elusive.In.Defeat.
Shutout.mens.Soccer-2346573.shtml 
     + Men's Soccer Shut Out by Northwestern in Road Action
      http://www.mgoblue.com/document_display.cfm?document_id=22388 

     Women
     'Cats Knock Off No. 16 Indiana, 1-0
      http://nusports.cstv.com/sports/w-soccer/recaps/101506aaa.html 

     'Cats Fall to Purdue, 2-1
      http://nusports.cstv.com/sports/w-soccer/recaps/101306aac.html 
     + Team kicks up the intensity
      http://www.purdueexponent.org/?module=article&story_id=2386 

VOLLEYBALL

     Wildcats Block By No. 16 Buckeyes, 3-2
      http://nusports.cstv.com/sports/w-volley/recaps/101406aab.html 
     + Game Four Comeback Saves Wildcats From Weekend Sweep
 
http://www.dailynorthwestern.com/news/2006/10/16/Sports/Game-Four.Comeback.Saves
.Wildcats.From.Weekend.Sweep.volleyball-2351839.shtml 

     Wildcats Fall to No. 2 Nittany Lions, 3-0, in Front of 1,002 Fans
      http://nusports.cstv.com/sports/w-volley/recaps/101306aab.html 

MISCELLANY

     Forget The Myth; NU Can Party
 
http://www.dailynorthwestern.com/news/2006/10/16/Forum/Forget.The.Myth.Nu.Can.Pa
rty-2351380.shtml 
     Good, bad and ugly all present in college football Saturday
 
http://rssfeeds.usatoday.com/%7Er/UsatodaycomCollegeFootball-TopStories/%7E3/375
92339/2006-10-15-lopresti-college-weekend_x.htm 

Alumni

     Joe Girardi No Joe at Wrigley?
      http://www.suntimes.com/sports/baseball/cubs/98282,CST-SPT-cub16.article 
     + Cubs' choice appears to be made
 
http://www.chicagotribune.com/sports/baseball/cubs/cs-061015cubs,1,3887422.story
?coll=chi-sportstop-hed 

     PGA
     Luke Donald - off this week

     Nationwide Tour Permian Basic Charity Golf Classic
      http://www.pgatour.com/tournaments/h038 
     Jess Daley - Full Scorecard  48th at +1
      http://www.pgatour.com/players/scorecard/285331/h038/2006 
     Tom Johnson - Full Scorecard  Missed the cut
      http://www.pgatour.com/players/scorecard/466839/h038/2006 

   2006 Football Opponents

     10/28 @ Michigan Wolverines 11 AM ABC/ESPN
     Football Sacks Penn State Behind Swarming Defense
      http://www.mgoblue.com/document_display.cfm?document_id=22381 

     11/4 @ Iowa Hawkeyes
     Indiana 31, #15 Iowa 28
 
http://chicagosports.chicagotribune.com/sports/college/cs-061014indianabox,1,160
5289.storylink?coll=cs-college-headlines 
     + Upset of Iowa sparks Hoosier hysteria
      http://www.suntimes.com/sports/colleges/97249,CST-SPT-iowa15.article 
     + Hoeppner had a feeling Indiana was capable of beating ranked foe
 
http://www.indystar.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20061016/SPORTS0601/610160387
/1004/SPORTS 

     11/11 Ohio State [Lasalle Bank Day]
     Ohio State improves on many records
 
http://chicagosports.chicagotribune.com/sports/college/cs-061014ohiostatebits,1,
4877619.story?coll=cs-college-headlines 
     + Buckeyes''D' stuffs Spartans
      http://www.suntimes.com/sports/colleges/97251,CST-SPT-osu15.article 

     11/18 Illinois Fighting Illini [Senior Day]
     Mendenhall's big day goes bust
 
http://chicagosports.chicagotribune.com/sports/college/cs-061016colfootillini,1,
1142058.htmlstory?coll=cs-college-headlines 
     + Illini tough-luck victims again
 
http://chicagosports.chicagotribune.com/sports/college/illinois/cs-061014illini,
1,1453514.story?coll=cs-college-headlines 
     + Giveaway night at Illinois
      http://www.suntimes.com/sports/colleges/97586,CST-SPT-ill15.article 

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From rstetson at capps-assoc.com  Mon Oct 16 09:10:18 2006
From: rstetson at capps-assoc.com (Roy Lamberton)
Date: Mon Oct 16 09:26:31 2006
Subject: [NU Sports] Cubs Managerial Job
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The Washington Post is reporting this AM that Girardi will wind up with the
Nats.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2006/10/14/AR2006101401022.
html

Now all they have to do is decide to use either the Expo's or the Senator's
records.

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> According to Buster Olney, ESPN Baseball Analyst, on "Mike & 
> Mike" this  
> morning, Lou Piniella's agent has apparently reached 
> agreement with Cubs  
> management on contract terms for "Sweet Lou".  Thus, Joe 
> Girardi, who  looked like the 
> best fit for Wrigleyville, will have to look elsewhere.   Too 
> bad, another 
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From jeffb at hilgraeve.com  Mon Oct 16 09:51:48 2006
From: jeffb at hilgraeve.com (Jeff Beamsley)
Date: Mon Oct 16 09:52:14 2006
Subject: [NU Sports] Questions
In-Reply-To: <8C8BF0FE21D5740-1080-1D6E@MBLK-M34.sysops.aol.com>
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Chuck,

All reasonable questions that have somewhat reasonable answers.

1. QB's - This is the good news and bad news of college FB.  If you have a
stud QB, your opportunity to recruit a stud replacement doesn't start until
the third eligibility year of your current stud.  If you look at recent
Michigan history, Gonzales was the back-up to Navarre for two years, but
Michigan was able to recruit Henne because he knew he was going to get a
chance to play. If Navarre had two years of eligibility left, Henne probably
would have gone to Penn State. Because of a pre-season injury to Gonzales
and Henne's quick success, Gonzales, even after he was healthy again, never
factored in the QB mix.  But you ended up with an interesting contrast on
Saturday night where Henne was the third year starter for UoM and Morelli
(who graduated the same year as Henne) was a first year starter for PSU and
looked the part.  There is just no substitute for on-field experience.

The situation at NU is a little more challenging because our offense is so
QB dependent.  It may turn out that none of our current three will be "the
guy".  Our next stud may be a senior in HS who wants to be a star and will
respond to the opportunity to start.  

As far as the nature of the offense is concerned, virtually everyone is
running some form of the spread.  So I think that there is just a whole lot
more demand for the sort of kid who can run this kind of offense.  So I
think that NU, like a lot of schools, just runs the risk of having a down
year until they find the "right" kid.  The good news is that the "right" kid
can have a dramatic effect (e.g. Illinois is a much better team this year
with Juice Williams). But I agree with many of the previous posters, it
doesn't appear that Brewer is the guy.  

2. Coaches effect the quality of play and also the quality of the player.
Henne's HS coach was interviewed during the game Saturday night and said
that Henne went to Michigan because they have the best QB coach in the
country.  Guys who have aspirations to play on Sunday are going to make
those sorts of choices.  Even though we aren't currently getting the results
on the field, we don't know yet what impact McGee is going to have on
recruiting.  I think we have to give him an opportunity to recruit before we
pass judgment.

NU doesn't release much on what assistants get paid, but we do know that RW
was well paid.  I suspect that our assistant coaches are also paid salaries
competitive to other BT schools.  Fitz was a relatively young assistant, but
he is living in a nice house in an upscale neighborhood, and is making
babies.  So I suspect even before RW's passing, that he was doing fine.  

I think that the coaches who left did so for two reasons.

1. They assumed that RW was a coach for life at NU and Fitz was his
designated heir.  Their chance to become a HC most likely required a move.
So why not promote yourself to a program where there was a chance to move up
in ranks?

2. They knew they had maximized their value during the Baz years and that NU
was going to struggle offensively for at least a year trying to find the
next Baz.  So if they were going to have to leave eventually anyway, might
as well leave when you have maximum bargaining power.

The challenge for Fitz, if he does become a coach for life, is to build a
program where the assistant coaches have a lot of say in how things run and
ultimately can get the sort of national recognition that the assistants at
Penn State or UoM get.  That, success, and money of course, are the reasons
why turn-over is so low in these programs.  I think Fitz is trying to do
that, but of course, the results have to follow.  

If the results (both wins and recruiting) don't follow, you should see those
coaches held accountable, just as they were at UoM for example where, after
a 7-5 season, there was a big shakeup in the ranks including a new DC and
OC.  The team and coaches appear to have responded with a team that will
content for the NC.

Jeff
   

-----Original Message-----
From: nwu-sports-bounces@tssi.com [mailto:nwu-sports-bounces@tssi.com] On
Behalf Of cherron604@aol.com
Sent: Monday, October 16, 2006 3:58 AM
To: nwu-sports@tssi.com
Subject: [NU Sports] Questions

1 - Quarterbacks
 
Everybody involved in the program has known for 2 or three years that BB was
not going to be around in 2006.  If the expectation was to continue to play
a very quarterback-centric offense, shouldn't the expectation have been that
the pipeline would contain as many strong QB candidates (with real solid
credentials) as possible ?  Yet all we had in the pipeline for 2006 was
Bacher, Kafka and Brewer.  Should we have made the calculation a few years
ago that, since this offense requires such a high-level of QB skill, if we
could not maintain that skill level in the recruiting pipeline, we should
move to a more typical Big-Ten type offense that was less dependent on
highly-skilled (hard to find) quarterbacks...?  Is it as simple as saying
spread offense=lots of QB talent=lots of talented QB recruits, or, if you
can't bring those recruits in, migrate toward a more typical offense ?
 
2 - Offensive Coordinators
 
Kevin Wilson took over as OC in 1999 with 9 years head coach or OC
experience.  He had great success for 3 years, then left, not for a head
coaching job, but to be OC at Oklahoma (where he remains).  In 2002 Mike
Dunbar took over as OC with 17 years head coach or OC experience.  He had a
great run for 4 years before leaving for another lateral move (OC at Cal).
Now we have promoted an OC with no head coaching or OC experience.  This
raises a couple of questions:
 
a) Why have 2 very accomplished OC's left the program, since they were not
leaving to become head coaches ?  Was it money ?  If it was purely money,
does the university need to review the pay for the assistant coaches ?  Or
did they leave for some other reason ?  If we are not going to pay
adequately to retain good OC talent, do we have to reconsider our commitment
to playing football at the Big Ten level ?
 
b) Isn't it safe to assume that the offense we have been using requires
exceptional OC talent as well as exceptional QB talent ?  We might further
assume that exceptional OC talent is at least as hard to find as (if not
harder to find than) excepional QB talent.  Given both of these, should a
calculation have been made that unless the supply of exceptional OC talent
could be maintained and guaranteed, we might need to transition to a more
standard offense, not requiring such exceptional OC talent to implement ?
 
c) Is it reasonable to assume that you could replace two OC's with a
combined 26 years of head coach or OC experience prior to their arrival with
an OC with no head coach or OC experience ?  Why exactly did we think we
needed to be an OC training ground when for the last seven years we had been
more of a finishing school for highly-experienced, highly-talented OC's ?
Did we even consider hiring anybody with HC or OC experience when Dunbar
left ?  
 
Garrick McGee is probably a great guy, and he might be a good OC someday,
but why exactly did we determine that he should get his on-the-job training
here ?  Shouldn't that training happen at some place like Toledo or Western
Illinois ? 
 
Greg Colby is another issue entirely, to be discussed separately.
 
Chuck Herron   Tech '85
 
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From cherron604 at aol.com  Mon Oct 16 10:28:22 2006
From: cherron604 at aol.com (cherron604@aol.com)
Date: Mon Oct 16 10:27:39 2006
Subject: [NU Sports] Questions
In-Reply-To: <c35.552b56d.3264ceab@aol.com>
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I'll allow that the Oklahoma program is higher profile than ours, but Cal has not been a perennial top-25 program.  They haven't won the Pac-10 since Mike White tied for the Pac-8 title in 1975.  Before that they last won a conference in 1958 when Pete Elliott won the PCC title.  Before Jeff Tedford arrived in 2002 and brought winning seasons, Cal had managed only 4 winning seasons since 1980 (Joe Kapp 7-4 '82, Bruce Snyder 7-4-1 '90, 10-2 '91, Keith Gilbertson 9-4 '93).  
 
Did Wilson or Dunbar ever go on the record explaining their reasons for leaving ?  We need to be a place where veteran skilled assistants arrive at, not a place that they pass through.
 
Chuck Herron   Tech '85 
 
 
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Sent: Mon, 16 Oct 2006 7:01 AM
Subject: Re: [NU Sports] Questions


Let's not start blaming our Administration.  How can it only be money when the OC's went to Oklahoma and Cal, two Top-25 programs?  Let's be realistic, those are high-profile Asst. Coaching Positions, much higher in profile than NU, like it or not, and much more of a launching pad to a HC Position.
 
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From cherron604 at aol.com  Mon Oct 16 10:48:09 2006
From: cherron604 at aol.com (cherron604@aol.com)
Date: Mon Oct 16 10:47:36 2006
Subject: [NU Sports] Questions
In-Reply-To: <15bd01c6f132$9b58ba60$97492745@hilgraeve.com>
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Hopefully Dunbar is not waiting on Tedford to retire - Dunbar is about 57, Tedford is about 45 (unless the NFL comes calling for Tedford).  Does anybody know - was Tedford considered for the Raiders job before Al Davis settled on Art Shell - or is Tedford too beloved in Berkeley to leave ?
 
A whole generation of assistants seemed to have gotten old and retired waiting for Paterno to retire.
 
Chuck Herron   Tech '85 
 
 
-----Original Message-----
From: jeffb@hilgraeve.com
To: nwu-sports@tssi.com
Sent: Mon, 16 Oct 2006 9:51 AM
Subject: RE: [NU Sports] Questions


Chuck,

All reasonable questions that have somewhat reasonable answers.

1. QB's - This is the good news and bad news of college FB.  If you have a
stud QB, your opportunity to recruit a stud replacement doesn't start until
the third eligibility year of your current stud.  If you look at recent
Michigan history, Gonzales was the back-up to Navarre for two years, but
Michigan was able to recruit Henne because he knew he was going to get a
chance to play. If Navarre had two years of eligibility left, Henne probably
would have gone to Penn State. Because of a pre-season injury to Gonzales
and Henne's quick success, Gonzales, even after he was healthy again, never
factored in the QB mix.  But you ended up with an interesting contrast on
Saturday night where Henne was the third year starter for UoM and Morelli
(who graduated the same year as Henne) was a first year starter for PSU and
looked the part.  There is just no substitute for on-field experience.

The situation at NU is a little more challenging because our offense is so
QB dependent.  It may turn out that none of our current three will be "the
guy".  Our next stud may be a senior in HS who wants to be a star and will
respond to the opportunity to start.  

As far as the nature of the offense is concerned, virtually everyone is
running some form of the spread.  So I think that there is just a whole lot
more demand for the sort of kid who can run this kind of offense.  So I
think that NU, like a lot of schools, just runs the risk of having a down
year until they find the "right" kid.  The good news is that the "right" kid
can have a dramatic effect (e.g. Illinois is a much better team this year
with Juice Williams). But I agree with many of the previous posters, it
doesn't appear that Brewer is the guy.  

2. Coaches effect the quality of play and also the quality of the player.
Henne's HS coach was interviewed during the game Saturday night and said
that Henne went to Michigan because they have the best QB coach in the
country.  Guys who have aspirations to play on Sunday are going to make
those sorts of choices.  Even though we aren't currently getting the results
on the field, we don't know yet what impact McGee is going to have on
recruiting.  I think we have to give him an opportunity to recruit before we
pass judgment.

NU doesn't release much on what assistants get paid, but we do know that RW
was well paid.  I suspect that our assistant coaches are also paid salaries
competitive to other BT schools.  Fitz was a relatively young assistant, but
he is living in a nice house in an upscale neighborhood, and is making
babies.  So I suspect even before RW's passing, that he was doing fine.  

I think that the coaches who left did so for two reasons.

1. They assumed that RW was a coach for life at NU and Fitz was his
designated heir.  Their chance to become a HC most likely required a move.
So why not promote yourself to a program where there was a chance to move up
in ranks?

2. They knew they had maximized their value during the Baz years and that NU
was going to struggle offensively for at least a year trying to find the
next Baz.  So if they were going to have to leave eventually anyway, might
as well leave when you have maximum bargaining power.

The challenge for Fitz, if he does become a coach for life, is to build a
program where the assistant coaches have a lot of say in how things run and
ultimately can get the sort of national recognition that the assistants at
Penn State or UoM get.  That, success, and money of course, are the reasons
why turn-over is so low in these programs.  I think Fitz is trying to do
that, but of course, the results have to follow.  

If the results (both wins and recruiting) don't follow, you should see those
coaches held accountable, just as they were at UoM for example where, after
a 7-5 season, there was a big shakeup in the ranks including a new DC and
OC.  The team and coaches appear to have responded with a team that will
content for the NC.

Jeff
   

-----Original Message-----
From: nwu-sports-bounces@tssi.com [mailto:nwu-sports-bounces@tssi.com] On
Behalf Of cherron604@aol.com
Sent: Monday, October 16, 2006 3:58 AM
To: nwu-sports@tssi.com
Subject: [NU Sports] Questions

1 - Quarterbacks
 
Everybody involved in the program has known for 2 or three years that BB was
not going to be around in 2006.  If the expectation was to continue to play
a very quarterback-centric offense, shouldn't the expectation have been that
the pipeline would contain as many strong QB candidates (with real solid
credentials) as possible ?  Yet all we had in the pipeline for 2006 was
Bacher, Kafka and Brewer.  Should we have made the calculation a few years
ago that, since this offense requires such a high-level of QB skill, if we
could not maintain that skill level in the recruiting pipeline, we should
move to a more typical Big-Ten type offense that was less dependent on
highly-skilled (hard to find) quarterbacks...?  Is it as simple as saying
spread offense=lots of QB talent=lots of talented QB recruits, or, if you
can't bring those recruits in, migrate toward a more typical offense ?
 
2 - Offensive Coordinators
 
Kevin Wilson took over as OC in 1999 with 9 years head coach or OC
experience.  He had great success for 3 years, then left, not for a head
coaching job, but to be OC at Oklahoma (where he remains).  In 2002 Mike
Dunbar took over as OC with 17 years head coach or OC experience.  He had a
great run for 4 years before leaving for another lateral move (OC at Cal).
Now we have promoted an OC with no head coaching or OC experience.  This
raises a couple of questions:
 
a) Why have 2 very accomplished OC's left the program, since they were not
leaving to become head coaches ?  Was it money ?  If it was purely money,
does the university need to review the pay for the assistant coaches ?  Or
did they leave for some other reason ?  If we are not going to pay
adequately to retain good OC talent, do we have to reconsider our commitment
to playing football at the Big Ten level ?
 
b) Isn't it safe to assume that the offense we have been using requires
exceptional OC talent as well as exceptional QB talent ?  We might further
assume that exceptional OC talent is at least as hard to find as (if not
harder to find than) excepional QB talent.  Given both of these, should a
calculation have been made that unless the supply of exceptional OC talent
could be maintained and guaranteed, we might need to transition to a more
standard offense, not requiring such exceptional OC talent to implement ?
 
c) Is it reasonable to assume that you could replace two OC's with a
combined 26 years of head coach or OC experience prior to their arrival with
an OC with no head coach or OC experience ?  Why exactly did we think we
needed to be an OC training ground when for the last seven years we had been
more of a finishing school for highly-experienced, highly-talented OC's ?
Did we even consider hiring anybody with HC or OC experience when Dunbar
left ?  
 
Garrick McGee is probably a great guy, and he might be a good OC someday,
but why exactly did we determine that he should get his on-the-job training
here ?  Shouldn't that training happen at some place like Toledo or Western
Illinois ? 
 
Greg Colby is another issue entirely, to be discussed separately.
 
Chuck Herron   Tech '85
 
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From johnl at mac.com  Mon Oct 16 10:54:48 2006
From: johnl at mac.com (John Labbe)
Date: Mon Oct 16 10:54:58 2006
Subject: [NU Sports] Questions
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It's also true that at the time McGee was promoted to OC, we had an offensive mastermind as a head coach.  Accordingly, we didn't need as much talent at OC.  Times have changed, and we lost much of our offensive coaching talent when Randy Walker died.

I think this leaves Fitgerald in a tough position.  He probably needs to replace McGee with someone with more experience, but it would probably be a diffifult move for him to make.  We'll have to wait and see, but hopefully there will be support from the administration to help hire a more talented and experienced OC if that's what Fitz decides to do.

 
On Monday, October 16, 2006, at 11:37AM, <cherron604@aol.com> wrote:

>I'll allow that the Oklahoma program is higher profile than ours, but Cal has not been a perennial top-25 program.  They haven't won the Pac-10 since Mike White tied for the Pac-8 title in 1975.  Before that they last won a conference in 1958 when Pete Elliott won the PCC title.  Before Jeff Tedford arrived in 2002 and brought winning seasons, Cal had managed only 4 winning seasons since 1980 (Joe Kapp 7-4 '82, Bruce Snyder 7-4-1 '90, 10-2 '91, Keith Gilbertson 9-4 '93).  
> 
>Did Wilson or Dunbar ever go on the record explaining their reasons for leaving ?  We need to be a place where veteran skilled assistants arrive at, not a place that they pass through.
> 
>Chuck Herron   Tech '85 
> 
> 
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>To: CHerron604@aol.com; nwu-sports@tssi.com
>Sent: Mon, 16 Oct 2006 7:01 AM
>Subject: Re: [NU Sports] Questions
>
>
>Let's not start blaming our Administration.  How can it only be money when the OC's went to Oklahoma and Cal, two Top-25 programs?  Let's be realistic, those are high-profile Asst. Coaching Positions, much higher in profile than NU, like it or not, and much more of a launching pad to a HC Position.
> 
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From jonathanwhodges at gmail.com  Mon Oct 16 13:57:11 2006
From: jonathanwhodges at gmail.com (Jonathan Hodges)
Date: Mon Oct 16 13:57:24 2006
Subject: [NU Sports] Questions
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I believe if I remember correctly that Dunbar was a native of Washington or
some other Pacific state, so he probably feels more at home out west.  Also
I'm sure he's probably attempting to put himself into a position to move up
to head coach again sometime, as it is obvious that Walker was going to be
the guy at NU for some time before he left.  Walker himself admitted that he
liked to see his coordinators move on after spending some time here (it was
the same when he was at Miami as well).

If Walker was here things would have probably looked a bit different on the
offensive side of the ball this year.  I would think that with a first time
OC Walker himself may have doen a good amount of play calling during the
games.  Obviously with Fitz in charge he has no offensive experience
coaching and it has made it much more difficult.

After this season, Fitz does have a bit of a challenge as it's obvious NU
needs to bring in more coaching experience.  The question is does he want to
essentially demote McGee and bring in someone with more experience?  I think
this is the only option as we have seen McGee just isn't ready yet.
Hopefully he can bring in another asst. coach with some experience as well -
either on the defensive side or for the special teams.  It'll be the first
huge decision he'll have to deal with.

Jonathan


On 10/16/06, cherron604@aol.com <cherron604@aol.com> wrote:
>
> Hopefully Dunbar is not waiting on Tedford to retire - Dunbar is about 57,
> Tedford is about 45 (unless the NFL comes calling for Tedford).  Does
> anybody know - was Tedford considered for the Raiders job before Al Davis
> settled on Art Shell - or is Tedford too beloved in Berkeley to leave ?
>
> A whole generation of assistants seemed to have gotten old and retired
> waiting for Paterno to retire.
>
> Chuck Herron   Tech '85
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: jeffb@hilgraeve.com
> To: nwu-sports@tssi.com
> Sent: Mon, 16 Oct 2006 9:51 AM
> Subject: RE: [NU Sports] Questions
>
>
> Chuck,
>
> All reasonable questions that have somewhat reasonable answers.
>
> 1. QB's - This is the good news and bad news of college FB.  If you have a
> stud QB, your opportunity to recruit a stud replacement doesn't start
> until
> the third eligibility year of your current stud.  If you look at recent
> Michigan history, Gonzales was the back-up to Navarre for two years, but
> Michigan was able to recruit Henne because he knew he was going to get a
> chance to play. If Navarre had two years of eligibility left, Henne
> probably
> would have gone to Penn State. Because of a pre-season injury to Gonzales
> and Henne's quick success, Gonzales, even after he was healthy again,
> never
> factored in the QB mix.  But you ended up with an interesting contrast on
> Saturday night where Henne was the third year starter for UoM and Morelli
> (who graduated the same year as Henne) was a first year starter for PSU
> and
> looked the part.  There is just no substitute for on-field experience.
>
> The situation at NU is a little more challenging because our offense is so
> QB dependent.  It may turn out that none of our current three will be "the
> guy".  Our next stud may be a senior in HS who wants to be a star and will
> respond to the opportunity to start.
>
> As far as the nature of the offense is concerned, virtually everyone is
> running some form of the spread.  So I think that there is just a whole
> lot
> more demand for the sort of kid who can run this kind of offense.  So I
> think that NU, like a lot of schools, just runs the risk of having a down
> year until they find the "right" kid.  The good news is that the "right"
> kid
> can have a dramatic effect (e.g. Illinois is a much better team this year
> with Juice Williams). But I agree with many of the previous posters, it
> doesn't appear that Brewer is the guy.
>
> 2. Coaches effect the quality of play and also the quality of the player.
> Henne's HS coach was interviewed during the game Saturday night and said
> that Henne went to Michigan because they have the best QB coach in the
> country.  Guys who have aspirations to play on Sunday are going to make
> those sorts of choices.  Even though we aren't currently getting the
> results
> on the field, we don't know yet what impact McGee is going to have on
> recruiting.  I think we have to give him an opportunity to recruit before
> we
> pass judgment.
>
> NU doesn't release much on what assistants get paid, but we do know that
> RW
> was well paid.  I suspect that our assistant coaches are also paid
> salaries
> competitive to other BT schools.  Fitz was a relatively young assistant,
> but
> he is living in a nice house in an upscale neighborhood, and is making
> babies.  So I suspect even before RW's passing, that he was doing fine.
>
> I think that the coaches who left did so for two reasons.
>
> 1. They assumed that RW was a coach for life at NU and Fitz was his
> designated heir.  Their chance to become a HC most likely required a move.
> So why not promote yourself to a program where there was a chance to move
> up
> in ranks?
>
> 2. They knew they had maximized their value during the Baz years and that
> NU
> was going to struggle offensively for at least a year trying to find the
> next Baz.  So if they were going to have to leave eventually anyway, might
> as well leave when you have maximum bargaining power.
>
> The challenge for Fitz, if he does become a coach for life, is to build a
> program where the assistant coaches have a lot of say in how things run
> and
> ultimately can get the sort of national recognition that the assistants at
> Penn State or UoM get.  That, success, and money of course, are the
> reasons
> why turn-over is so low in these programs.  I think Fitz is trying to do
> that, but of course, the results have to follow.
>
> If the results (both wins and recruiting) don't follow, you should see
> those
> coaches held accountable, just as they were at UoM for example where,
> after
> a 7-5 season, there was a big shakeup in the ranks including a new DC and
> OC.  The team and coaches appear to have responded with a team that will
> content for the NC.
>
> Jeff
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: nwu-sports-bounces@tssi.com [mailto:nwu-sports-bounces@tssi.com] On
> Behalf Of cherron604@aol.com
> Sent: Monday, October 16, 2006 3:58 AM
> To: nwu-sports@tssi.com
> Subject: [NU Sports] Questions
>
> 1 - Quarterbacks
>
> Everybody involved in the program has known for 2 or three years that BB
> was
> not going to be around in 2006.  If the expectation was to continue to
> play
> a very quarterback-centric offense, shouldn't the expectation have been
> that
> the pipeline would contain as many strong QB candidates (with real solid
> credentials) as possible ?  Yet all we had in the pipeline for 2006 was
> Bacher, Kafka and Brewer.  Should we have made the calculation a few years
> ago that, since this offense requires such a high-level of QB skill, if we
> could not maintain that skill level in the recruiting pipeline, we should
> move to a more typical Big-Ten type offense that was less dependent on
> highly-skilled (hard to find) quarterbacks...?  Is it as simple as saying
> spread offense=lots of QB talent=lots of talented QB recruits, or, if you
> can't bring those recruits in, migrate toward a more typical offense ?
>
> 2 - Offensive Coordinators
>
> Kevin Wilson took over as OC in 1999 with 9 years head coach or OC
> experience.  He had great success for 3 years, then left, not for a head
> coaching job, but to be OC at Oklahoma (where he remains).  In 2002 Mike
> Dunbar took over as OC with 17 years head coach or OC experience.  He had
> a
> great run for 4 years before leaving for another lateral move (OC at Cal).
> Now we have promoted an OC with no head coaching or OC experience.  This
> raises a couple of questions:
>
> a) Why have 2 very accomplished OC's left the program, since they were not
> leaving to become head coaches ?  Was it money ?  If it was purely money,
> does the university need to review the pay for the assistant coaches ?  Or
> did they leave for some other reason ?  If we are not going to pay
> adequately to retain good OC talent, do we have to reconsider our
> commitment
> to playing football at the Big Ten level ?
>
> b) Isn't it safe to assume that the offense we have been using requires
> exceptional OC talent as well as exceptional QB talent ?  We might further
> assume that exceptional OC talent is at least as hard to find as (if not
> harder to find than) excepional QB talent.  Given both of these, should a
> calculation have been made that unless the supply of exceptional OC talent
> could be maintained and guaranteed, we might need to transition to a more
> standard offense, not requiring such exceptional OC talent to implement ?
>
> c) Is it reasonable to assume that you could replace two OC's with a
> combined 26 years of head coach or OC experience prior to their arrival
> with
> an OC with no head coach or OC experience ?  Why exactly did we think we
> needed to be an OC training ground when for the last seven years we had
> been
> more of a finishing school for highly-experienced, highly-talented OC's ?
> Did we even consider hiring anybody with HC or OC experience when Dunbar
> left ?
>
> Garrick McGee is probably a great guy, and he might be a good OC someday,
> but why exactly did we determine that he should get his on-the-job
> training
> here ?  Shouldn't that training happen at some place like Toledo or
> Western
> Illinois ?
>
> Greg Colby is another issue entirely, to be discussed separately.
>
> Chuck Herron   Tech '85
>
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From jeffb at hilgraeve.com  Mon Oct 16 14:44:23 2006
From: jeffb at hilgraeve.com (Jeff Beamsley)
Date: Mon Oct 16 14:44:49 2006
Subject: [NU Sports] Questions
In-Reply-To: <8C8BF519D531F22-86C-F5B@MBLK-M33.sysops.aol.com>
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Couple of points.
 
Dunbar is a west coast guy (born in Tacoma, graduated from Washington in
'72)
 
He was in line to be HC at Toledo, but Gary Pinkel stayed on the job a
little too long and he jumped at the chance to be the HC at Northern Iowa in
97.  He left Toledo after a great season too.  Toledo finished the 96 season
in the top 25 nationally with a senior running back (Wasean Tait) ranked
second in the country in total yards.  
 
He didn't really get the job done at Northern Iowa (Div I-AA).  He had a
winning record overall but posted a .500 in conference record for his four
years with no championships.  The year after he left, though, Northern Iowa
won their conference.  
 
His first year at NU was 2001.
 
Beyond that it is just speculation.  
 
Tedford may have told him that he doesn't plan to stay at Cal.
 
Maybe Tedford offered to give him a larger say in the offensive scheme than
RW.
 
Maybe he just wants to end his career on the west coast.
 
The longest coaching stint in his whole career was the five years he spent
at Toledo.  He may just be one of those guys who likes building better than
operating.  
 
Just raised all of these because it wasn't at all clear that money was his
primary motivation.
 
Jeff
 


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From: cherron604@aol.com [mailto:cherron604@aol.com] 
Sent: Monday, October 16, 2006 11:48 AM
To: jeffb@hilgraeve.com; nwu-sports@tssi.com
Subject: Re: [NU Sports] Questions


Hopefully Dunbar is not waiting on Tedford to retire - Dunbar is about 57,
Tedford is about 45 (unless the NFL comes calling for Tedford).  Does
anybody know - was Tedford considered for the Raiders job before Al Davis
settled on Art Shell - or is Tedford too beloved in Berkeley to leave ?
 
A whole generation of assistants seemed to have gotten old and retired
waiting for Paterno to retire.
 
Chuck Herron   Tech '85 
 
 
-----Original Message-----
From: jeffb@hilgraeve.com
To: nwu-sports@tssi.com
Sent: Mon, 16 Oct 2006 9:51 AM
Subject: RE: [NU Sports] Questions


Chuck,



All reasonable questions that have somewhat reasonable answers.



1. QB's - This is the good news and bad news of college FB.  If you have a

stud QB, your opportunity to recruit a stud replacement doesn't start until

the third eligibility year of your current stud.  If you look at recent

Michigan history, Gonzales was the back-up to Navarre for two years, but

Michigan was able to recruit Henne because he knew he was going to get a

chance to play. If Navarre had two years of eligibility left, Henne probably

would have gone to Penn State. Because of a pre-season injury to Gonzales

and Henne's quick success, Gonzales, even after he was healthy again, never

factored in the QB mix.  But you ended up with an interesting contrast on

Saturday night where Henne was the third year starter for UoM and Morelli

(who graduated the same year as Henne) was a first year starter for PSU and

looked the part.  There is just no substitute for on-field experience.



The situation at NU is a little more challenging because our offense is so

QB dependent.  It may turn out that none of our current three will be "the

guy".  Our next stud may be a senior in HS who wants to be a star and will

respond to the opportunity to start.  



As far as the nature of the offense is concerned, virtually everyone is

running some form of the spread.  So I think that there is just a whole lot

more demand for the sort of kid who can run this kind of offense.  So I

think that NU, like a lot of schools, just runs the risk of having a down

year until they find the "right" kid.  The good news is that the "right" kid

can have a dramatic effect (e.g. Illinois is a much better team this year

with Juice Williams). But I agree with many of the previous posters, it

doesn't appear that Brewer is the guy.  



2. Coaches effect the quality of play and also the quality of the player.

Henne's HS coach was interviewed during the game Saturday night and said

that Henne went to Michigan because they have the best QB coach in the

country.  Guys who have aspirations to play on Sunday are going to make

those sorts of choices.  Even though we aren't currently getting the results

on the field, we don't know yet what impact McGee is going to have on

recruiting.  I think we have to give him an opportunity to recruit before we

pass judgment.



NU doesn't release much on what assistants get paid, but we do know that RW

was well paid.  I suspect that our assistant coaches are also paid salaries

competitive to other BT schools.  Fitz was a relatively young assistant, but

he is living in a nice house in an upscale neighborhood, and is making

babies.  So I suspect even before RW's passing, that he was doing fine.  



I think that the coaches who left did so for two reasons.



1. They assumed that RW was a coach for life at NU and Fitz was his

designated heir.  Their chance to become a HC most likely required a move.

So why not promote yourself to a program where there was a chance to move up

in ranks?



2. They knew they had maximized their value during the Baz years and that NU

was going to struggle offensively for at least a year trying to find the

next Baz.  So if they were going to have to leave eventually anyway, might

as well leave when you have maximum bargaining power.



The challenge for Fitz, if he does become a coach for life, is to build a

program where the assistant coaches have a lot of say in how things run and

ultimately can get the sort of national recognition that the assistants at

Penn State or UoM get.  That, success, and money of course, are the reasons

why turn-over is so low in these programs.  I think Fitz is trying to do

that, but of course, the results have to follow.  



If the results (both wins and recruiting) don't follow, you should see those

coaches held accountable, just as they were at UoM for example where, after

a 7-5 season, there was a big shakeup in the ranks including a new DC and

OC.  The team and coaches appear to have responded with a team that will

content for the NC.



Jeff

   



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Sent: Monday, October 16, 2006 3:58 AM

To: nwu-sports@tssi.com <mailto:nwu-sports%40tssi.com> 

Subject: [NU Sports] Questions



1 - Quarterbacks

 

Everybody involved in the program has known for 2 or three years that BB was

not going to be around in 2006.  If the expectation was to continue to play

a very quarterback-centric offense, shouldn't the expectation have been that

the pipeline would contain as many strong QB candidates (with real solid

credentials) as possible ?  Yet all we had in the pipeline for 2006 was

Bacher, Kafka and Brewer.  Should we have made the calculation a few years

ago that, since this offense requires such a high-level of QB skill, if we

could not maintain that skill level in the recruiting pipeline, we should

move to a more typical Big-Ten type offense that was less dependent on

highly-skilled (hard to find) quarterbacks...?  Is it as simple as saying

spread offense=lots of QB talent=lots of talented QB recruits, or, if you

can't bring those recruits in, migrate toward a more typical offense ?

 

2 - Offensive Coordinators

 

Kevin Wilson took over as OC in 1999 with 9 years head coach or OC

experience.  He had great success for 3 years, then left, not for a head

coaching job, but to be OC at Oklahoma (where he remains).  In 2002 Mike

Dunbar took over as OC with 17 years head coach or OC experience.  He had a

great run for 4 years before leaving for another lateral move (OC at Cal).

Now we have promoted an OC with no head coaching or OC experience.  This

raises a couple of questions:

 

a) Why have 2 very accomplished OC's left the program, since they were not

leaving to become head coaches ?  Was it money ?  If it was purely money,

does the university need to review the pay for the assistant coaches ?  Or

did they leave for some other reason ?  If we are not going to pay

adequately to retain good OC talent, do we have to reconsider our commitment

to playing football at the Big Ten level ?

 

b) Isn't it safe to assume that the offense we have been using requires

exceptional OC talent as well as exceptional QB talent ?  We might further

assume that exceptional OC talent is at least as hard to find as (if not

harder to find than) excepional QB talent.  Given both of these, should a

calculation have been made that unless the supply of exceptional OC talent

could be maintained and guaranteed, we might need to transition to a more

standard offense, not requiring such exceptional OC talent to implement ?

 

c) Is it reasonable to assume that you could replace two OC's with a

combined 26 years of head coach or OC experience prior to their arrival with

an OC with no head coach or OC experience ?  Why exactly did we think we

needed to be an OC training ground when for the last seven years we had been

more of a finishing school for highly-experienced, highly-talented OC's ?

Did we even consider hiring anybody with HC or OC experience when Dunbar

left ?  

 

Garrick McGee is probably a great guy, and he might be a good OC someday,

but why exactly did we determine that he should get his on-the-job training

here ?  Shouldn't that training happen at some place like Toledo or Western

Illinois ? 

 

Greg Colby is another issue entirely, to be discussed separately.

 

Chuck Herron   Tech '85

 

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From rstetson at capps-assoc.com  Mon Oct 16 14:47:33 2006
From: rstetson at capps-assoc.com (Roy Lamberton)
Date: Mon Oct 16 14:47:53 2006
Subject: [NU Sports] Questions
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FWIW - 

1. Wilson left because he was supposed to get a HC job after putting in the
spread and instead the Cats tanked. He took Oklahoma [originally as the running
coordinator and O-Line coach with the idea he'd move up eventually which he did.

2. Patton left because Wilson called him and asked him to go to OK to take over
the O-Line. Coaching the O-Line at NU vs OU? No contest, the quality of the
linemen OU recruits easily is very hard to attain at NU.

3. Nobody is 100% sure publically why Dunbar left except he's from the West
Coast and possibly wanted to get closer to the rest of his family. His departure
took RW off guard, however. I honestly don't think he had HC aspirations at NU
altho he certainly could talk like one. 

Maybe he expected to get an offer while he was in Evanston, maybe he did, too,
but wanted to stick with Baz. I know he was instrumental in getting C.J. to come
to NU.

Every time Walker negotiated a renewal, he asked for and got decent raises for
his assistants. I suspect NU's are among the better paid in Div I, if not the
Big 10 given most of their short experience.

One of Fitz' limitations as a young head coach is a short list of guys he's
worked with who might come to Evanston to help. Our new LB coach came here
because he was a pal of Colby and saw an opportunity to rebuild the defenses he
had at Kent with a better class of kid. IN any case, I can see where the defense
is trying to go, and a fair amount of success as the younger players gain
experience.

While Coach Walker may have told Fitz he would be the "next" HC, I don't think
he told any of the other assistants. Doing that would invite disaster as the
others would start to bail out early for other jobs.

I've written at length about the offense and the issue of getting kids to run
what you call elsewhere. Suffice to say that from what I've seen, as much of the
blame for the offenses lack of production and predictability lies on the field
as on the sidelines.

rsl





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> -----Original Message-----
> From: nwu-sports-bounces@tssi.com 
> [mailto:nwu-sports-bounces@tssi.com] On Behalf Of Jeff Beamsley
> Sent: Monday, October 16, 2006 10:52 AM
> To: nwu-sports@tssi.com
> Subject: RE: [NU Sports] Questions
> 
> 
> Chuck,
> 
> All reasonable questions that have somewhat reasonable answers.
> 
> 1. QB's - This is the good news and bad news of college FB.  
> If you have a stud QB, your opportunity to recruit a stud 
> replacement doesn't start until the third eligibility year of 
> your current stud.  If you look at recent Michigan history, 
> Gonzales was the back-up to Navarre for two years, but 
> Michigan was able to recruit Henne because he knew he was 
> going to get a chance to play. If Navarre had two years of 
> eligibility left, Henne probably would have gone to Penn 
> State. Because of a pre-season injury to Gonzales and Henne's 
> quick success, Gonzales, even after he was healthy again, 
> never factored in the QB mix.  But you ended up with an 
> interesting contrast on Saturday night where Henne was the 
> third year starter for UoM and Morelli (who graduated the 
> same year as Henne) was a first year starter for PSU and 
> looked the part.  There is just no substitute for on-field experience.
> 
> The situation at NU is a little more challenging because our 
> offense is so QB dependent.  It may turn out that none of our 
> current three will be "the guy".  Our next stud may be a 
> senior in HS who wants to be a star and will respond to the 
> opportunity to start.  
> 
> As far as the nature of the offense is concerned, virtually 
> everyone is running some form of the spread.  So I think that 
> there is just a whole lot more demand for the sort of kid who 
> can run this kind of offense.  So I think that NU, like a lot 
> of schools, just runs the risk of having a down year until 
> they find the "right" kid.  The good news is that the "right" 
> kid can have a dramatic effect (e.g. Illinois is a much 
> better team this year with Juice Williams). But I agree with 
> many of the previous posters, it doesn't appear that Brewer 
> is the guy.  
> 
> 2. Coaches effect the quality of play and also the quality of 
> the player. Henne's HS coach was interviewed during the game 
> Saturday night and said that Henne went to Michigan because 
> they have the best QB coach in the country.  Guys who have 
> aspirations to play on Sunday are going to make those sorts 
> of choices.  Even though we aren't currently getting the 
> results on the field, we don't know yet what impact McGee is 
> going to have on recruiting.  I think we have to give him an 
> opportunity to recruit before we pass judgment.
> 
> NU doesn't release much on what assistants get paid, but we 
> do know that RW was well paid.  I suspect that our assistant 
> coaches are also paid salaries competitive to other BT 
> schools.  Fitz was a relatively young assistant, but he is 
> living in a nice house in an upscale neighborhood, and is 
> making babies.  So I suspect even before RW's passing, that 
> he was doing fine.  
> 
> I think that the coaches who left did so for two reasons.
> 
> 1. They assumed that RW was a coach for life at NU and Fitz 
> was his designated heir.  Their chance to become a HC most 
> likely required a move. So why not promote yourself to a 
> program where there was a chance to move up in ranks?
> 
> 2. They knew they had maximized their value during the Baz 
> years and that NU was going to struggle offensively for at 
> least a year trying to find the next Baz.  So if they were 
> going to have to leave eventually anyway, might as well leave 
> when you have maximum bargaining power.
> 
> The challenge for Fitz, if he does become a coach for life, 
> is to build a program where the assistant coaches have a lot 
> of say in how things run and ultimately can get the sort of 
> national recognition that the assistants at Penn State or UoM 
> get.  That, success, and money of course, are the reasons why 
> turn-over is so low in these programs.  I think Fitz is 
> trying to do that, but of course, the results have to follow.  
> 
> If the results (both wins and recruiting) don't follow, you 
> should see those coaches held accountable, just as they were 
> at UoM for example where, after a 7-5 season, there was a big 
> shakeup in the ranks including a new DC and OC.  The team and 
> coaches appear to have responded with a team that will 
> content for the NC.
> 
> Jeff
>    
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: nwu-sports-bounces@tssi.com 
> [mailto:nwu-sports-bounces@tssi.com] On Behalf Of cherron604@aol.com
> Sent: Monday, October 16, 2006 3:58 AM
> To: nwu-sports@tssi.com
> Subject: [NU Sports] Questions
> 
> 1 - Quarterbacks
>  
> Everybody involved in the program has known for 2 or three 
> years that BB was not going to be around in 2006.  If the 
> expectation was to continue to play a very 
> quarterback-centric offense, shouldn't the expectation have 
> been that the pipeline would contain as many strong QB 
> candidates (with real solid
> credentials) as possible ?  Yet all we had in the pipeline 
> for 2006 was Bacher, Kafka and Brewer.  Should we have made 
> the calculation a few years ago that, since this offense 
> requires such a high-level of QB skill, if we could not 
> maintain that skill level in the recruiting pipeline, we 
> should move to a more typical Big-Ten type offense that was 
> less dependent on highly-skilled (hard to find) 
> quarterbacks...?  Is it as simple as saying spread 
> offense=lots of QB talent=lots of talented QB recruits, or, 
> if you can't bring those recruits in, migrate toward a more 
> typical offense ?
>  
> 2 - Offensive Coordinators
>  
> Kevin Wilson took over as OC in 1999 with 9 years head coach 
> or OC experience.  He had great success for 3 years, then 
> left, not for a head coaching job, but to be OC at Oklahoma 
> (where he remains).  In 2002 Mike Dunbar took over as OC with 
> 17 years head coach or OC experience.  He had a great run for 
> 4 years before leaving for another lateral move (OC at Cal). 
> Now we have promoted an OC with no head coaching or OC 
> experience.  This raises a couple of questions:
>  
> a) Why have 2 very accomplished OC's left the program, since 
> they were not leaving to become head coaches ?  Was it money 
> ?  If it was purely money, does the university need to review 
> the pay for the assistant coaches ?  Or did they leave for 
> some other reason ?  If we are not going to pay adequately to 
> retain good OC talent, do we have to reconsider our 
> commitment to playing football at the Big Ten level ?
>  
> b) Isn't it safe to assume that the offense we have been 
> using requires exceptional OC talent as well as exceptional 
> QB talent ?  We might further assume that exceptional OC 
> talent is at least as hard to find as (if not harder to find 
> than) excepional QB talent.  Given both of these, should a 
> calculation have been made that unless the supply of 
> exceptional OC talent could be maintained and guaranteed, we 
> might need to transition to a more standard offense, not 
> requiring such exceptional OC talent to implement ?
>  
> c) Is it reasonable to assume that you could replace two OC's 
> with a combined 26 years of head coach or OC experience prior 
> to their arrival with an OC with no head coach or OC 
> experience ?  Why exactly did we think we needed to be an OC 
> training ground when for the last seven years we had been 
> more of a finishing school for highly-experienced, 
> highly-talented OC's ? Did we even consider hiring anybody 
> with HC or OC experience when Dunbar left ?  
>  
> Garrick McGee is probably a great guy, and he might be a good 
> OC someday, but why exactly did we determine that he should 
> get his on-the-job training here ?  Shouldn't that training 
> happen at some place like Toledo or Western Illinois ? 
>  
> Greg Colby is another issue entirely, to be discussed separately.
>  
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From nolan at romaine.tssi.com  Mon Oct 16 17:42:50 2006
From: nolan at romaine.tssi.com (Mike Nolan)
Date: Mon Oct 16 17:43:00 2006
Subject: [NU Sports] hire a special teams coach?
Message-ID: <200610162242.k9GMgoHN012022@romaine.tssi.com>

Um, as I recall NU has the full complement of assistant coaches permitted
under NCAA rules.

Hiring a special teams coach would mean some other coach has to be fired.
--
Mike Nolan                    

From MHRJGScott at aol.com  Mon Oct 16 18:01:22 2006
From: MHRJGScott at aol.com (MHRJGScott@aol.com)
Date: Mon Oct 16 18:01:28 2006
Subject: [NU Sports] Cubs Managerial Job
Message-ID: <3fd.76aca80.32656942@aol.com>

I have gotten increasingly uninterested after more than 50 years as a cubs  
fan. This year I hardly watched a game much to the delight of my girlfriend.  
After the bone headed decision to hire a new York/Florida guy instead of a  
Chicago/NU guy I don't think I can watch the laughable losers anymore at  all.
From mlinhardt at netzero.net  Tue Oct 17 06:43:41 2006
From: mlinhardt at netzero.net (mlinhardt@netzero.net)
Date: Tue Oct 17 06:45:30 2006
Subject: [NU Sports] Cubs Managerial Job
Message-ID: <20061017.044426.26276.687823@webmail49.nyc.untd.com>

I am quite glad Girardi did not get the Cubs job.  

To be successful in Chicago he would have to dump almost the entire 
roster and start over, which takes time.  With the Cubs you have a lot 
of money invested in a bunch of unhealthy/old stiffs.

I think he is a better manager with a younger(cheaper) team that he 
can mold to his personality vs. jaded veterans who won't change.

-- MHRJGScott@aol.com wrote:
I have gotten increasingly uninterested after more than 50 years as a 
cubs  
fan. This year I hardly watched a game much to the delight of my 
girlfriend.  
After the bone headed decision to hire a new York/Florida guy instead 
of a  
Chicago/NU guy I don't think I can watch the laughable losers anymore 
at  all.



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From AJWDBW at aol.com  Tue Oct 17 08:50:37 2006
From: AJWDBW at aol.com (AJWDBW@aol.com)
Date: Tue Oct 17 08:50:46 2006
Subject: [NU Sports] Cubs Managerial Job
Message-ID: <bd8.5daf8cb.326639ad@aol.com>

 
In a message dated 10/17/2006 6:46:43 A.M. Central Standard Time,  
mlinhardt@netzero.net writes:

think he  is a better manager with a younger(cheaper) team that he 
can mold to his  personality vs. jaded veterans who won't change.



I agree completely and think that is why he would be a good fit with the  
Washington Nationals organization.
Don Williams
C55
From bwdolphin146 at yahoo.com  Tue Oct 17 23:45:40 2006
From: bwdolphin146 at yahoo.com (Brad Wilson)
Date: Tue Oct 17 23:45:44 2006
Subject: [NU Sports] I gather we generally agree with this?
Message-ID: <20061018044540.70573.qmail@web51305.mail.yahoo.com>

I do, I must say:

http://www.suntimes.com/sports/colleges/99062,CST-SPT-nu17.article

Brad Wilson

ps -- to Mike Nolan: I didn't mean go out and get a
special teams coach. I meant have somebody in charge
of it like another coordinator -- there are enough
assistants, one could certainly do it (Jerry Brown)?

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From sjtruog at yahoo.com  Wed Oct 18 02:25:30 2006
From: sjtruog at yahoo.com (SjT (Stephen J. Truog))
Date: Wed Oct 18 02:25:44 2006
Subject: [NU Sports] PIGSKIN PICKS - Week 8
Message-ID: <20061018072530.41967.qmail@web52908.mail.yahoo.com>

Standings should be out later today (for real! :) ) on
Wed., but first here's the lineup for next week.
Normal week, so all picks due by kickoff Saturday.

PIGSKIN PICKS - WEEK 8
######################
Name: 

BIG TEN
=======
GAME  1: Illinois @ Penn State 
WINNER: 

GAME  2: Indiana @ Ohio State
WINNER: 

GAME  3: Iowa @ Michigan
WINNER: 

GAME  4: North Dakota State @ Minnesota
WINNER: 

GAME  5: Wisconsin @ Purdue
WINNER: 

NATIONAL
========
GAME  6: Alabama @ Tennessee
WINNER: 

GAME  7: Texas @ Nebraska
WINNER: 

GAME  8: Boston College @ Florida State
WINNER: 

GAME  9: Georgia Tech @ Clemson
WINNER: 

GAME 10: Rutgers @ Pittsburgh
WINNER: 

MY PICKS
========
* PENN STATE 31, Illinois 13
C: Lions start slow after last week's tough loss, but
finish strong to pull away.

* OHIO STATE 38, Indiana 6
C: The Hoosiers are on a roll ... but they aren't
ready to win at the Shoe yet.

* MICHIGAN 23, Iowa 10
C: The Hawks are dangerous after being wounded last
week by the Hoosier upset and now cornered by Michigan
- but Big Blue's D and focus are too much.

* MINNESOTA 56, North Dakota State 0
C: Should be a hockey game instead.

* WISCONSIN 28, Purdue 17
C: Dangerous trap game here. The Boilers put up a
fight for a half at home, but the Badgers are starting
to gain confidence in leaps and bounds and could start
sniffing a BCS bid soon if they win out.

* TENNESSEE 42, Alabama 9
C: Speaking of BCS bids, if Tennessee runs the table
and doesn't have to play the SEC title game, they
might be a strong candidate for an at-large berth.

* TEXAS 35, Nebraska 17
C: The Huskers aren't back yet. Horns cruise in
Lincoln.

* FLORIDA STATE 21, Boston College 10
C: The Eagles might win this one up north, but not in
Tallahassee.

* CLEMSON 37, Georgia Tech 30
C: Dandy of a game in the ACC, but the Tigers are at
home and will have just enough to squeak by the
Jackets.

* PITTSBURGH 21, Rutgers 14
C: The dream season comes to an end for the Knights as
the Panthers are on a legit roll.

And off the board ...

* NORTHWESTERN 24, Michigan State 21
C: Last time I'll be able to pick the Cats for awhile
- always tough to know which MSU team will show up ...
but if the Cats open up the offense a bit, they should
be able to compete for homecoming.

Standings soon and picks due by Saturday!
GO CATS!!!
-SjT

* * * * * * * * *
STEPHEN J. TRUOG
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From wseliger at aol.com  Wed Oct 18 11:09:39 2006
From: wseliger at aol.com (wseliger@aol.com)
Date: Wed Oct 18 11:09:48 2006
Subject: [NU Sports] NU - Illinois Football Tickets available
Message-ID: <8C8C0E6F2BB5780-998-7FFA@WEBMAIL-MB18.sysops.aol.com>

 A coworker of mine has 4 NU-Illinois tickets available.  Please contact me off-list and I can put you in touch with her.  
 
The seats are:
 
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From rstetson at capps-assoc.com  Wed Oct 18 12:39:54 2006
From: rstetson at capps-assoc.com (Roy Lamberton)
Date: Wed Oct 18 12:40:22 2006
Subject: [NU Sports] NU Sports News Digest for 10/18
Message-ID: <001f01c6f2dc$6c9440e0$6401a8c0@DAVIDXP>

www.PurpleWildcats.com
for Purple Reign & the NU Sports List


Midweek Homecoming Prep Edition

Lots of news out of Lansing as Northwestern preps for the Spartans and
Homecoming. There's also a good article on one of our PGA 
Alums, plus one on Luis C. Other Fall Sports too...

                                      All the News that Fits We Link
                                       Your Index to on-line News about
                                       Northwestern University Athletics

FOOTBALL

     Michigan State Visits Ryan Field This Saturday For Homecoming
      http://nusports.cstv.com/sports/m-footbl/spec-rel/101606aab.html 
     + Random Thoughts:Time for C.J.
      http://story.scout.com/a.z?s=179&p=2&c=579900 
     + Needed: NU approach
      http://www.suntimes.com/sports/colleges/99062,CST-SPT-nu17.article 
     + NU staying with Brewer at QB
      http://www.dailyherald.com/sports/northwestern.asp?id=239167 
     + Northwestern stumbles against Purdue
 
http://www.nwherald.com/articles/2006/10/15/sports/college/northwestern/doc4531f
64d64dd6628808183.txt 
     + Northwestern desperately seeks victory
      http://www.sportingnews.com/yourturn/viewtopic.php?t=139040 

     Monday 2-Deep, Injuries, and ???? - 10/16
      http://northwestern.scout.com/2/580305.html 

     TV Clearances for Saturday
      http://bigten.cstv.com/sports/m-baskbl/archive/100906aaa.html 

Next up for the Cats:

     10/21 Michigan State Spartans 11 AM [Homecoming] - Channel 2
     Vacancies expected at MSU, Miami
 
http://chicagosports.chicagotribune.com/sports/college/cs-061017teddyim,1,306653
5.story?coll=cs-college-headlines 
     + Jones booted from team; Injury Update
      http://story.scout.com/a.z?s=179&p=2&c=580272 
     $ Which Spartans will show Saturday?
      http://story.scout.com/a.z?s=179&p=2&c=580326 
     + Season continues, skid can't for Spartans
 
http://wwmt.com/engine.pl?station=wwmt&id=31241&template=breakout_sports.html 
     + Season continues, skid can't for Spartans [different story]
      http://www.sportingnews.com/yourturn/viewtopic.php?t=139051 
     + Season continues, skid can't for Spartans
 
http://www.mlive.com/sportsflash/college/index.ssf?/base/sports-19/1161046446206
980.xml&storylist=micollegefb 
     + John L. Smith Weekly Press Conference
      http://msuspartans.cstv.com/sports/m-footbl/spec-rel/101606aaa.html 
     + 6 weeks in, MSU still has passing grade - barely
      http://www.statenews.com/article.phtml?pk=38112 
     + Spartan coaches defend leadership of players
 
http://www.mlive.com/spartans/stories/index.ssf?/base/sports-0/1161126603184650.
xml&coll=1 
     + Smith upbeat while dealing with myriad of problems
 
http://www.mlive.com/spartans/stories/index.ssf?/base/sports-0/116104020818540.x
ml&coll=1 
     + That was then, this is interesting
 
http://www.mlive.com/spartans/weblog/index.ssf?/mtlogs/mlive_grinzongreen/archiv
es/2006_10.html#194329 
     + Analysis: It's up to MSU's offense to deliver
 
http://www.greenandwhite.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20061018/GW01/610180351/
1023/GW 
     + Injury list still long for MSU
 
http://www.greenandwhite.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20061017/GW01/610170326/
1023/GW 
     + Aching Stanton should be OK
 
http://www.detnews.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20061017/SPORTS0202/610170309/
1132 
     + Dye: MSU faithful skip out on another thrashing
 
http://www.detnews.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20061015/SPORTS08/610150338/11
32/SPORTS0202 

     Just some of the Spartan's distractions
     Davis, Andino arraigned on assault charges
 
http://www.mlive.com/spartans/stories/index.ssf?/base/sports-0/1161128406250760.
xml&coll=1 
     + Two MSU players charged in fight
 
http://www.greenandwhite.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20061018/GW01/610180352/
1023/GW 

     Big 10 [The rest of NU's schedule]

     Ohio State and Michigan Ranked 1-2 in AP Poll
      http://bigten.cstv.com/sports/m-footbl/spec-rel/101606aac.html
     + Ohio State and Michigan Both Ranked Among Top Three in First BCS Poll
      http://bigten.cstv.com/sports/m-footbl/spec-rel/101606aaa.html
     + BCS captures Big Ten flavor
      http://www.suntimes.com/sports/colleges/98471,CST-SPT-bcs16.article

RECRUITING

     Our Weekly Football Commit Update
     NU Recruit Update - 10/14
      http://northwestern.scout.com/2/579924.html 
     Women's Basketball picks up a commit
     Stedman to play at Northwestern
 
http://www.mlive.com/sports/fljournal/index.ssf?/base/sports-2/1161093077148480.
xml&coll=5 

FIELD HOCKEY

     Northwestern Downs Kent State, 2-1
      http://nusports.cstv.com/sports/w-fieldh/recaps/101606aaa.html 
     + Cats make up for heartbreak with dominance
      http://www.cstv.com/sports/w-fieldh/uwire/101706aad.html 

SOCCER

     Men
     Goals Elusive In Defeat Shutout 
 
http://www.dailynorthwestern.com/news/2006/10/12/Sports/Goals.Elusive.In.Defeat.
Shutout.mens.Soccer-2346573.shtml 

     Women
     A New Attitude Five Months Later
 
http://www.dailynorthwestern.com/news/2006/10/18/Sports/A.New.Attitude.Five.Mont
hs.Later-2374171.shtml 

VOLLEYBALL

     Road Trip to Indiana Concludes First Half of Big Ten Schedule

     Kate Nobilio Named Big Ten Defensive Player of the Week
     + Michigan State and Northwestern Earn Weekly Volleyball Honors

MISCELLANY

     Murphy's Mark: New Lacrosse/Soccer Field Will Be Built in the Coming Months
      http://nusports.cstv.com/genrel/101606aab.html 
     Midseason Report
 
http://www.dailynorthwestern.com/news/2006/10/18/Sports/Midseason.Report-2374180
.shtml 
     Oh no, no Coffee?
     Study says caffeine abuse can be serious
 
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2006/10/16/AR2006101601070.
html 

Alumni

     Luis Castillo Dancing Bear on a tear
      http://story.scout.com/a.z?s=179&p=2&c=580566 

     Joe Girardi  Girardi Apparent Front-Runner
 
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2006/10/14/AR2006101401022.
html 
     + St. Claire Will Stay
 
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2006/10/16/AR2006101601070.
html 

     PGA
     Luke Donald - off this week
     9th on the Complete Money Leaders list
      http://www.pgatour.com/stats/leaders/r/2006/109 

     Nationwide Tour PalmettoPride Classic
      http://www.pgatour.com/tournaments/h091 
     Jess Daley - Daley and his Travel Supreme still a team -- for now
      http://www.pgatour.com/story/9732505 
     + 21st on the Complete Money Leaders list
      http://www.pgatour.com/stats/leaders/h/2006/109 

     Tom Johnson -  Also scheduled

   2006 Football Opponents

     10/28 @ Michigan Wolverines 11 AM ABC/ESPN
     11/4 @ Iowa Hawkeyes
     Injuries, loss to Indiana has Iowa limping into the Big House
 
http://www.mlive.com/sportsflash/college/index.ssf?/base/sports-19/1161135858154
760.xml&storylist=micollegefb 

     11/11 Ohio State [Lasalle Bank Day]
     11/18 Illinois Fighting Illini [Senior Day]
     Illini need to learn how to win
 
http://nwitimes.com/articles/2006/10/18/sports/college_sports/c01a4a2c72228c5086
25720b000980c1.txt 

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From sjtruog at yahoo.com  Wed Oct 18 17:52:51 2006
From: sjtruog at yahoo.com (SjT (Stephen J. Truog))
Date: Wed Oct 18 17:53:09 2006
Subject: [NU Sports] PIGSKIN PICKS - Standings and polls
Message-ID: <20061018225251.7390.qmail@web52901.mail.yahoo.com>

Just like last year, we had to wait for the BCS
Standings (and fall break) to get the standings out ?
I apologize, and will try and do better the following
weeks. If you have any questions, please e-mail me
off-list.

First up, a list of the unanimous picks and upset
specials that cashed in for the first seven weeks (a
game where fewer than 1/3 of the participants picked
the winner).

UNANIMOUS PICKS
All of our unanimous picks (mostly the pre-conference
cupcake games ? and since they were Big Ten games, we
HAD to pick ?em!) hit, except in recent weeks. We all
missed 


Week 5
* Illinois over Michigan State

Week 7
* Indiana over Iowa

UPSET SPECIAL WINNERS
=====================
Week 1
* Florida State over Miami

Week 2
* Boston College over Clemson

Week 3
* Southern Illinois over Indiana
* Michigan over Notre Dame

Week 4
* NC State over Boston College

Week 5
* Texas Tech over Texas A&M
* Georgia Tech over Virginia Tech

Week 6
* Indiana over Illinois
* Arkansas over Auburn

Week 7
* Ohio over Illinois

And now to the big board 


TW  Name	        Record   Pct.   Upset  Weeks
====================================================
 1) Trey McAdams	68-17	.800	2	7
 2) Chris Bailey	66-19	.776	2	7
 2) Stephen Truog	66-19	.776	3	7
 2) Marilyn Zilka	66-19	.776	4	7
 5) Ivars Embrekts	54-16	.771	2	6
 6) Mark Ament	        50-15	.769	0	5
 7) Chuck Herron	65-20	.765	3	7
 7) Brian Winkler	65-20	.765	3	7
 7) Alan Wolfson	65-20	.765	0	7
10) Matt Barnard	57-18	.760	0	6
10) Brad Wilson		57-18	.760	1	6
12) Michael Vance	49-16	.754	1	5
13) Jim Bendat		64-21	.753	1	7
13) Ryan Farney	        64-21	.753	0	7
15) Clark Zahn		55-20	.733	1	6
16) Jonathan Hodges	62-23	.729	1	7
16) John Labbe		62-23	.729	1	7
16) Eric Steffe		62-23	.729	0	7
19) Phredd Groves	61-24	.718	2	7
19) John Lieske		61-24	.718	3	7
21) Peg Wolfe		46-19	.708	2	5
22) Ray Stahl		60-25	.706	3	7
23) Bruce Taylor	49-21	.700	0	6
24) Kelly Sevilla	59-26	.694	2	7
24) Sam Wolfson	        59-26	.694	2	7
26) Bob Waldele		39-21	.650	2	5
27) Jim Leonard	        57-28	.671	3	7
28) Ace McInturff	51-34	.600	5	7

Not eligible at this time (must be in 2/3 of weeks)
---------------------------------------------------
xx) Joe Thiegs		44-11	.800	0	4
xx) Michael Whelan	44-11	.800	0	4
xx) David Warner	39-16	.709	0	4
xx) Carl Rossi		32-13	.711	5	4
xx) Arthur Miller	31- 9	.775	1	3
xx) Neil Kaplan		26- 4	.867	1	2
xx) T. Haleas		14- 1	.933	0	1
xx) Jason Singer	14- 1	.933	1	1
xx) Roger Bradshaw	13- 2	.867	0	1
xx) Harlan Hieber	11- 4	.733	0	1

And before we go, since I can't get to my old Web site
to update it, the rankings this week ...

LW TW  SjTOP 25
========================
 1  1) OHIO STATE - Rolling like a #1 team should
 2  2) MICHIGAN - Wounded Iowa last threat 'til Bucks
 4  3) SOUTHERN CAL - Another sloppy, unimpressive win
 5  4) WEST VIRGINIA - Play somebody! Please!
 6  5) TEXAS - Started slow, but ran it up late
10  6) AUBURN - Redemption at home ... rematch in ATL?
 3  7) FLORIDA - Brutal SEC schedule claims another
 8  8) TENNESSEE - Getting more impressive each week
 9  9) CALIFORNIA - Like Vols, back in BCS hunt
 7 10) LOUISVILLE - Barely beat Cincy? Unproven.
11 11) NOTRE DAME - Soft middle of schedule continues
12 12) CLEMSON - Huge showdown with Georgia Tech ...
14 13) GEORGIA TECH - ... could be for a BCS bid
15 14) OREGON - Hideous unis get quack attack on track
19 15) ARKANSAS - Auburn win puts pressure on piggies
16 16) LSU - Could be a big spoiler in SEC race
17 17) OKLAHOMA - Won, but lost hope for season with
AP
18 18) BOISE STATE - Last hope to crack the BCS
23 19) WISCONSIN - Could run table and be BCS
darkhorse
NR 20) BOSTON COLLEGE - Lurking in ACC, but FSU next
22 21) NEBRASKA - Chance for statement win vs. Texas
24 22) RUTGERS - Unbeaten, but still unproven
NR 23) WAKE FOREST - Late collapse away from 7-0
13 24) IOWA - Were they looking ahead to Big Blue?
NR 25) ALABAMA - Living on edge, but mostly winning

DROPPED OUT: (20) Georgia, (21) Virginia Tech, (25)
Penn State

OTHERS TO WATCH: Florida State, Missouri, Pittsburgh,
Texas A&M

Get those picks in by Saturday!
GO CATS!!!
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From WildElk2 at aol.com  Thu Oct 19 20:19:31 2006
From: WildElk2 at aol.com (WildElk2@aol.com)
Date: Thu Oct 19 20:19:48 2006
Subject: [NU Sports] Questions
Message-ID: <bf6.79024b4.32697e23@aol.com>

Purple Gang,
 
   I was out of town , rather, out of the planet, which is Potter  County, 
Pa. at my buddy's hunting lodge.  It sits between 2 mountains, and  has no TV.  
Yes, it has electricity and running water, but information  is....scarce.
   Anyway, I read "the accounts and description", and one thought  came to 
mind:SOS.  The defense made enough plays and kept them in the game  for 2 and 
1/2 quarters, but...nothing.  We scored 10 points on a team that  gave up 35 
points to Indiana STATE, and 31 to Miami (Oh.).
   As Mike N. says in his bi-monthly posts, say something  original; 
something that you would ask yourself, would you pay $ to read this  post?  I can't, 
but I'll try.  Our offensive line is a   disappointment,  but with all the 
changes, I can't believe that Brewer is  starting. The situation screams for 
Bacher.  Brewer and Kafka someday may  be good, but both are WAY over their heads. 
We need a passer.  I must be  missing something.
   I'm afraid that we'll be reading about another QB battle next  summer.  I 
concur with Brad Wilson; find a QB before the end of the  year.
   As far as Fitz's situation, he is owed this year as a  honeymoon.  I 
believe Mark Murphy will help our young coach.  He's the  type who doesn't like to 
lose, so he can help Fitz in the area of coaching  changes.
   From what I've read, our recruiting seems to be going better  than usual, 
although that may grind to a screeching halt.
  The fallout from RW's passing has been painful; more painful than  what I 
thought.  I saw a .500 season coming, but I didn't think the bottom  would drop 
out.  It has, and it will continue.  All I want is a "W"  against MSU or 
Ill-noise (or both!) and to find a QB.  I've rambled  enough....
 
       GO  CATS!!!           Trust the  Plan,                Eric
From jeffb at hilgraeve.com  Fri Oct 20 07:18:21 2006
From: jeffb at hilgraeve.com (Jeff Beamsley)
Date: Fri Oct 20 07:19:55 2006
Subject: [NU Sports] Questions
In-Reply-To: <bf6.79024b4.32697e23@aol.com>
Message-ID: <249301c6f441$d57a6e20$97492745@hilgraeve.com>

 
Just a little gossip to add to the mix.

I've heard through a third party close to a football parent that at least
one of the kids on the team describes serious "problems" with the new OC and
DC. 

Don't know anything more than that, but the poor performances that we've
seen appear to be causing our kids to ask some of the same questions that
are being asked on this list.

Jeff 

-Original Message-----
From: nwu-sports-bounces@tssi.com [mailto:nwu-sports-bounces@tssi.com] On
Behalf Of WildElk2@aol.com
Sent: Thursday, October 19, 2006 9:20 PM
To: rstetson@capps-assoc.com; nwu-sports@tssi.com
Subject: Re: [NU Sports] Questions

Purple Gang,
 
   I was out of town , rather, out of the planet, which is Potter  County,
Pa. at my buddy's hunting lodge.  It sits between 2 mountains, and  has no
TV.  
Yes, it has electricity and running water, but information  is....scarce.
   Anyway, I read "the accounts and description", and one thought  came to
mind:SOS.  The defense made enough plays and kept them in the game  for 2
and
1/2 quarters, but...nothing.  We scored 10 points on a team that  gave up 35
points to Indiana STATE, and 31 to Miami (Oh.).
   As Mike N. says in his bi-monthly posts, say something  original;
something that you would ask yourself, would you pay $ to read this  post?
I can't, 
but I'll try.  Our offensive line is a   disappointment,  but with all the 
changes, I can't believe that Brewer is  starting. The situation screams for
Bacher.  Brewer and Kafka someday may  be good, but both are WAY over their
heads. 
We need a passer.  I must be  missing something.
   I'm afraid that we'll be reading about another QB battle next  summer.  I
concur with Brad Wilson; find a QB before the end of the  year.
   As far as Fitz's situation, he is owed this year as a  honeymoon.  I
believe Mark Murphy will help our young coach.  He's the  type who doesn't
like to lose, so he can help Fitz in the area of coaching  changes.
   From what I've read, our recruiting seems to be going better  than usual,
although that may grind to a screeching halt.
  The fallout from RW's passing has been painful; more painful than  what I
thought.  I saw a .500 season coming, but I didn't think the bottom  would
drop out.  It has, and it will continue.  All I want is a "W"  against MSU
or Ill-noise (or both!) and to find a QB.  I've rambled  enough....
 
       GO  CATS!!!           Trust the  Plan,                Eric
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From rstetson at capps-assoc.com  Fri Oct 20 09:37:36 2006
From: rstetson at capps-assoc.com (Roy Lamberton)
Date: Fri Oct 20 09:37:52 2006
Subject: [NU Sports] Questions
In-Reply-To: <249301c6f441$d57a6e20$97492745@hilgraeve.com>
Message-ID: <000301c6f455$49b7af10$6401a8c0@DAVIDXP>

Over the years I've learned that when a team isn't winning there are almost
always problems with the coaches and coordinators when you talk to the kids who
aren't starting or playing regularly.

I've had parents question my choices, and last night I heard an earful about
player choices made by coaches at the lower levels of our HS program. [Which I
didn't agree with, but kept my silence] 

What I always tell my kids who raise the playing issue is that they need to stop
asking to play, and start stepping it up in practice. If they can step it up
against the starters, it makes them all better players.

I think Walker approached "problems" differently than Fitz does - he'd have to
because he's a different guy, but I think RW was approachable when a kid had a
problem. [altho Webb and Walker apparently never "bonded."]

Anyway, parents are the first to hear the griping from their kids and will tend
to share it with others who are in the same boat. I've always said that on a
football team there are between 15-25 sets of parents who think the head coach
is a genius. The rest think he's an idiot for not playing their kid!

rsl

++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
Roy S. Lamberton - Senior Associate
Computer Applications & Support Associates
and Publisher of Purple Reign, 
The Scout.com Northwestern University Site
(http://www.purplewildcats.com)
AIM Handle: CoachRoy74
======== Go Cats -  Beat 'em All ===========
"You have a Republic Madam --
     If you can keep it" - Benjamin Franklin
============================================

> -----Original Message-----
> From: nwu-sports-bounces@tssi.com 
> [mailto:nwu-sports-bounces@tssi.com] On Behalf Of Jeff Beamsley
> Sent: Friday, October 20, 2006 8:18 AM
> To: nwu-sports@tssi.com
> Subject: RE: [NU Sports] Questions
> 
> 
>  
> Just a little gossip to add to the mix.
> 
> I've heard through a third party close to a football parent 
> that at least one of the kids on the team describes serious 
> "problems" with the new OC and DC. 
> 


From jeffb at hilgraeve.com  Fri Oct 20 10:55:31 2006
From: jeffb at hilgraeve.com (Jeff Beamsley)
Date: Fri Oct 20 10:56:06 2006
Subject: [NU Sports] Questions
In-Reply-To: <000301c6f455$49b7af10$6401a8c0@DAVIDXP>
Message-ID: <003901c6f460$2c5dcb60$97492745@hilgraeve.com>

Roy,

I agree that this is the case on virtually any competitive team where you
have starters and reserves.  This particular piece of gossip (that's all it
is at this point) came from the parents of a starter so it suggests a little
more serious discontent.  But given everything that everyone on this team is
going through, I'm not surprised that they are having a tough time
rediscovering their team unity.  They aren't playing as well as they are
capable of playing.  As a result, they aren't competitive.  The good news is
that they don't like to lose.  The bad news is that some may be thinking
along the lines of, "If _____ (you fill in the blank) were here we wouldn't
be having these problems."  

They (and we) need to trust that Fitz will lead them out of this, but it
could easily take most of the season do it.

Jeff


-----Original Message-----
From: Roy Lamberton [mailto:rstetson@capps-assoc.com] 
Sent: Friday, October 20, 2006 10:38 AM
To: jeffb@hilgraeve.com; nwu-sports@tssi.com
Subject: RE: [NU Sports] Questions

Over the years I've learned that when a team isn't winning there are almost
always problems with the coaches and coordinators when you talk to the kids
who aren't starting or playing regularly.

I've had parents question my choices, and last night I heard an earful about
player choices made by coaches at the lower levels of our HS program. [Which
I didn't agree with, but kept my silence] 

What I always tell my kids who raise the playing issue is that they need to
stop asking to play, and start stepping it up in practice. If they can step
it up against the starters, it makes them all better players.

I think Walker approached "problems" differently than Fitz does - he'd have
to because he's a different guy, but I think RW was approachable when a kid
had a problem. [altho Webb and Walker apparently never "bonded."]

Anyway, parents are the first to hear the griping from their kids and will
tend to share it with others who are in the same boat. I've always said that
on a football team there are between 15-25 sets of parents who think the
head coach is a genius. The rest think he's an idiot for not playing their
kid!

rsl

++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
Roy S. Lamberton - Senior Associate
Computer Applications & Support Associates and Publisher of Purple Reign,
The Scout.com Northwestern University Site
(http://www.purplewildcats.com)
AIM Handle: CoachRoy74
======== Go Cats -  Beat 'em All =========== "You have a Republic Madam --
     If you can keep it" - Benjamin Franklin
============================================

> -----Original Message-----
> From: nwu-sports-bounces@tssi.com
> [mailto:nwu-sports-bounces@tssi.com] On Behalf Of Jeff Beamsley
> Sent: Friday, October 20, 2006 8:18 AM
> To: nwu-sports@tssi.com
> Subject: RE: [NU Sports] Questions
> 
> 
>  
> Just a little gossip to add to the mix.
> 
> I've heard through a third party close to a football parent that at 
> least one of the kids on the team describes serious "problems" with 
> the new OC and DC.
> 

From DPENDERG at aol.com  Fri Oct 20 11:54:19 2006
From: DPENDERG at aol.com (DPENDERG@aol.com)
Date: Fri Oct 20 11:54:28 2006
Subject: [NU Sports] Questions
Message-ID: <cc4.b15484.326a593b@aol.com>

 
While gossip certainly remains gossip until we know the facts, there is  
something seriously wrong with the coaching on both sides of the ball.   This team 
has simply not played anywhere near its potential this season and the  
coaching, I think, is the primary reason.  Yes, perhaps it's partly an  
inexperienced head coach still finding his way.  But it's mainly a  defensive coordinator 
who has presided over one of the worst D-IA  defenses over the last five years 
 and a new OC whose play selection  and preparation have been questionable at 
best.  I see some  big-time changes coming after the season.
 
 
In a message dated 10/20/2006 11:57:07 A.M. Eastern Standard Time,  
jeffb@hilgraeve.com writes:

Roy,

I agree that this is the case on virtually any competitive  team where you
have starters and reserves.  This particular piece of  gossip (that's all it
is at this point) came from the parents of a starter  so it suggests a little
more serious discontent.  But given everything  that everyone on this team is
going through, I'm not surprised that they  are having a tough time
rediscovering their team unity.  They aren't  playing as well as they are
capable of playing.  As a result, they  aren't competitive.  The good news is
that they don't like to  lose.  The bad news is that some may be thinking
along the lines of,  "If _____ (you fill in the blank) were here we wouldn't
be having these  problems."  

They (and we) need to trust that Fitz will lead them  out of this, but it
could easily take most of the season do  it.

Jeff


-----Original Message-----
From: Roy Lamberton  [mailto:rstetson@capps-assoc.com] 
Sent: Friday, October 20, 2006 10:38  AM
To: jeffb@hilgraeve.com; nwu-sports@tssi.com
Subject: RE: [NU Sports]  Questions

Over the years I've learned that when a team isn't winning  there are almost
always problems with the coaches and coordinators when you  talk to the kids
who aren't starting or playing regularly.

I've had  parents question my choices, and last night I heard an earful about
player  choices made by coaches at the lower levels of our HS program. [Which
I  didn't agree with, but kept my silence] 

What I always tell my kids who  raise the playing issue is that they need to
stop asking to play, and start  stepping it up in practice. If they can step
it up against the starters, it  makes them all better players.

I think Walker approached "problems"  differently than Fitz does - he'd have
to because he's a different guy, but  I think RW was approachable when a kid
had a problem. [altho Webb and  Walker apparently never "bonded."]

Anyway, parents are the first to  hear the griping from their kids and will
tend to share it with others who  are in the same boat. I've always said that
on a football team there are  between 15-25 sets of parents who think the
head coach is a genius. The  rest think he's an idiot for not playing  their
kid!

rsl

++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
Roy  S. Lamberton - Senior Associate
Computer Applications & Support  Associates and Publisher of Purple Reign,
The Scout.com Northwestern  University Site
(http://www.purplewildcats.com)
AIM Handle:  CoachRoy74
======== Go Cats -  Beat 'em All =========== "You have a  Republic Madam --
If you can keep it" - Benjamin  Franklin
============================================

>  -----Original Message-----
> From: nwu-sports-bounces@tssi.com
>  [mailto:nwu-sports-bounces@tssi.com] On Behalf Of Jeff Beamsley
> Sent:  Friday, October 20, 2006 8:18 AM
> To: nwu-sports@tssi.com
>  Subject: RE: [NU Sports] Questions
> 
> 
>  
>  Just a little gossip to add to the mix.
> 
> I've heard through a  third party close to a football parent that at 
> least one of the kids  on the team describes serious "problems" with 
> the new OC and  DC.
>  

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From mlinhardt at netzero.net  Fri Oct 20 12:59:19 2006
From: mlinhardt at netzero.net (mlinhardt@netzero.net)
Date: Fri Oct 20 13:01:00 2006
Subject: [NU Sports] Brendan Smith's cousin
Message-ID: <20061020.105948.1008.706785@webmail02.nyc.untd.com>

'You just have to make yourself small'
Lowell Massachusettes Sun
http://www.lowellsun.com/sports/ci_4505630

Brendan Smith's cousin who is coached by a customer of my wife's 
company.

Supposedly a really, really great kid.  He seems like he would make an 
awesome addition to the Wildcat family in a few years.

Marc Linhardt
Tech '93
Go Cats!  -- Sneak Past the Spartans ;-)


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From rstetson at capps-assoc.com  Fri Oct 20 14:16:46 2006
From: rstetson at capps-assoc.com (Roy Lamberton)
Date: Fri Oct 20 14:17:00 2006
Subject: [NU Sports] Questions
In-Reply-To: <003901c6f460$2c5dcb60$97492745@hilgraeve.com>
Message-ID: <000201c6f47c$49a4ffb0$6401a8c0@DAVIDXP>

If the Blank is "Randy Walker" then its almost to be expected.

If the Blank is someone else, then I don't know what to tell you.

All I know is that these kinds of rumors swirled around the team during RW's two
bad years also, and quickly disappeared [except on the message boards] once the
team started winning.

rsl

++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
Roy S. Lamberton - Senior Associate
Computer Applications & Support Associates
and Publisher of Purple Reign, 
The Scout.com Northwestern University Site
(http://www.purplewildcats.com)
AIM Handle: CoachRoy74
======== Go Cats -  Beat 'em All ===========
"You have a Republic Madam --
     If you can keep it" - Benjamin Franklin
============================================

> -----Original Message-----
> From: nwu-sports-bounces@tssi.com 
> [mailto:nwu-sports-bounces@tssi.com] On Behalf Of Jeff Beamsley
> Sent: Friday, October 20, 2006 11:56 AM
> To: nwu-sports@tssi.com
> Subject: RE: [NU Sports] Questions
> 
> 
> Roy,
> 
> I agree that this is the case on virtually any competitive 
> team where you have starters and reserves.  This particular 
> piece of gossip (that's all it is at this point) came from 
> the parents of a starter so it suggests a little more serious 
> discontent.  But given everything that everyone on this team 
> is going through, I'm not surprised that they are having a 
> tough time rediscovering their team unity.  They aren't 
> playing as well as they are capable of playing.  As a result, 
> they aren't competitive.  The good news is that they don't 
> like to lose.  The bad news is that some may be thinking 
> along the lines of, "If _____ (you fill in the blank) were 
> here we wouldn't be having these problems."  
> 
> They (and we) need to trust that Fitz will lead them out of 
> this, but it could easily take most of the season do it.
> 
> Jeff
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Roy Lamberton [mailto:rstetson@capps-assoc.com] 
> Sent: Friday, October 20, 2006 10:38 AM
> To: jeffb@hilgraeve.com; nwu-sports@tssi.com
> Subject: RE: [NU Sports] Questions
> 
> Over the years I've learned that when a team isn't winning 
> there are almost always problems with the coaches and 
> coordinators when you talk to the kids who aren't starting or 
> playing regularly.
> 
> I've had parents question my choices, and last night I heard 
> an earful about player choices made by coaches at the lower 
> levels of our HS program. [Which I didn't agree with, but 
> kept my silence] 
> 
> What I always tell my kids who raise the playing issue is 
> that they need to stop asking to play, and start stepping it 
> up in practice. If they can step it up against the starters, 
> it makes them all better players.
> 
> I think Walker approached "problems" differently than Fitz 
> does - he'd have to because he's a different guy, but I think 
> RW was approachable when a kid had a problem. [altho Webb and 
> Walker apparently never "bonded."]
> 
> Anyway, parents are the first to hear the griping from their 
> kids and will tend to share it with others who are in the 
> same boat. I've always said that on a football team there are 
> between 15-25 sets of parents who think the head coach is a 
> genius. The rest think he's an idiot for not playing their kid!
> 
> rsl
> 
> ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
> Roy S. Lamberton - Senior Associate
> Computer Applications & Support Associates and Publisher of 
> Purple Reign, The Scout.com Northwestern University Site
> (http://www.purplewildcats.com)
> AIM Handle: CoachRoy74
> ======== Go Cats -  Beat 'em All =========== "You have a 
> Republic Madam --
>      If you can keep it" - Benjamin Franklin 
> ============================================
> 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: nwu-sports-bounces@tssi.com 
> [mailto:nwu-sports-bounces@tssi.com] 
> > On Behalf Of Jeff Beamsley
> > Sent: Friday, October 20, 2006 8:18 AM
> > To: nwu-sports@tssi.com
> > Subject: RE: [NU Sports] Questions
> > 
> > 
> >  
> > Just a little gossip to add to the mix.
> > 
> > I've heard through a third party close to a football parent that at
> > least one of the kids on the team describes serious "problems" with 
> > the new OC and DC.
> > 
> 
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From jeffb at hilgraeve.com  Fri Oct 20 16:14:33 2006
From: jeffb at hilgraeve.com (Jeff Beamsley)
Date: Fri Oct 20 16:15:06 2006
Subject: [NU Sports] Questions
In-Reply-To: <000201c6f47c$49a4ffb0$6401a8c0@DAVIDXP>
Message-ID: <01b701c6f48c$bdb01470$97492745@hilgraeve.com>

I think that it is all of the above including Baz.

I agree that winning will resolve this, but it will take leadership from
Fitz to earn the trust of the team.  It will also take the team to realize
that they are part of the equation here too.  They have to be willing to
commit before anything good is going to happen.

I know that we all hoped that Fitz would be able to fill the void left by
RW. As much as he may want to be, Fitz is not RW and the team is going to
have to change as a result.  They haven't all figured that out yet.

Jeff

BTW, I'm not sure the player/parent issues with RW ever completely
disappeared. But we covered some of the reasons for that in a previous post.

-----Original Message-----
From: Roy Lamberton [mailto:rstetson@capps-assoc.com] 
Sent: Friday, October 20, 2006 3:17 PM
To: jeffb@hilgraeve.com; nwu-sports@tssi.com
Subject: RE: [NU Sports] Questions

If the Blank is "Randy Walker" then its almost to be expected.

If the Blank is someone else, then I don't know what to tell you.

All I know is that these kinds of rumors swirled around the team during RW's
two bad years also, and quickly disappeared [except on the message boards]
once the team started winning.

rsl

++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
Roy S. Lamberton - Senior Associate
Computer Applications & Support Associates and Publisher of Purple Reign,
The Scout.com Northwestern University Site
(http://www.purplewildcats.com)
AIM Handle: CoachRoy74
======== Go Cats -  Beat 'em All =========== "You have a Republic Madam --
     If you can keep it" - Benjamin Franklin
============================================

> -----Original Message-----
> From: nwu-sports-bounces@tssi.com
> [mailto:nwu-sports-bounces@tssi.com] On Behalf Of Jeff Beamsley
> Sent: Friday, October 20, 2006 11:56 AM
> To: nwu-sports@tssi.com
> Subject: RE: [NU Sports] Questions
> 
> 
> Roy,
> 
> I agree that this is the case on virtually any competitive team where 
> you have starters and reserves.  This particular piece of gossip 
> (that's all it is at this point) came from the parents of a starter so 
> it suggests a little more serious discontent.  But given everything 
> that everyone on this team is going through, I'm not surprised that 
> they are having a tough time rediscovering their team unity.  They 
> aren't playing as well as they are capable of playing.  As a result, 
> they aren't competitive.  The good news is that they don't like to 
> lose.  The bad news is that some may be thinking along the lines of, 
> "If _____ (you fill in the blank) were here we wouldn't be having 
> these problems."
> 
> They (and we) need to trust that Fitz will lead them out of this, but 
> it could easily take most of the season do it.
> 
> Jeff
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Roy Lamberton [mailto:rstetson@capps-assoc.com]
> Sent: Friday, October 20, 2006 10:38 AM
> To: jeffb@hilgraeve.com; nwu-sports@tssi.com
> Subject: RE: [NU Sports] Questions
> 
> Over the years I've learned that when a team isn't winning there are 
> almost always problems with the coaches and coordinators when you talk 
> to the kids who aren't starting or playing regularly.
> 
> I've had parents question my choices, and last night I heard an earful 
> about player choices made by coaches at the lower levels of our HS 
> program. [Which I didn't agree with, but kept my silence]
> 
> What I always tell my kids who raise the playing issue is that they 
> need to stop asking to play, and start stepping it up in practice. If 
> they can step it up against the starters, it makes them all better 
> players.
> 
> I think Walker approached "problems" differently than Fitz does - he'd 
> have to because he's a different guy, but I think RW was approachable 
> when a kid had a problem. [altho Webb and Walker apparently never 
> "bonded."]
> 
> Anyway, parents are the first to hear the griping from their kids and 
> will tend to share it with others who are in the same boat. I've 
> always said that on a football team there are between 15-25 sets of 
> parents who think the head coach is a genius. The rest think he's an 
> idiot for not playing their kid!
> 
> rsl
> 
> ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
> Roy S. Lamberton - Senior Associate
> Computer Applications & Support Associates and Publisher of Purple 
> Reign, The Scout.com Northwestern University Site
> (http://www.purplewildcats.com)
> AIM Handle: CoachRoy74
> ======== Go Cats -  Beat 'em All =========== "You have a Republic 
> Madam --
>      If you can keep it" - Benjamin Franklin 
> ============================================
> 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: nwu-sports-bounces@tssi.com
> [mailto:nwu-sports-bounces@tssi.com]
> > On Behalf Of Jeff Beamsley
> > Sent: Friday, October 20, 2006 8:18 AM
> > To: nwu-sports@tssi.com
> > Subject: RE: [NU Sports] Questions
> > 
> > 
> >  
> > Just a little gossip to add to the mix.
> > 
> > I've heard through a third party close to a football parent that at 
> > least one of the kids on the team describes serious "problems" with 
> > the new OC and DC.
> > 
> 
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From rstetson at capps-assoc.com  Fri Oct 20 17:53:01 2006
From: rstetson at capps-assoc.com (Roy Lamberton)
Date: Fri Oct 20 17:53:12 2006
Subject: [NU Sports] Questions
In-Reply-To: <01b701c6f48c$bdb01470$97492745@hilgraeve.com>
Message-ID: <000001c6f49a$7f00af10$6401a8c0@DAVIDXP>

Last night I had a long conversation with a couple of parents, one of whom is
the mother of one of my starting halfbacks.

This kid and my QB [and another player] were all cut from the Middle School Team
- they're 7th graders.

The Halfback has grown quite a bit, but is still 5 or 6 inches shorter than the
kid from our team that made the middle school and is now one of their primary
RBs. My QB is still fairly short, altho he is lightning fast [scored 2 TDs last
week, both on broken plays].

The other parent, who also helps coach the HS's Frosh Team, told me that none of
the 7th graders who were cut will ever play football here in town because [here
follows a long litany of stuff that we've all heard before.]

If my QB grows 6 inches next winter, he'd be nuts not to go out for the middle
school next year as an 8th grader - he'll make it. The other kid is still
growing and will be big enough to be a force on defense next year, he's that
good and fast. 

There are parents who think that if their kid doesn't start immediately at the
next level, there is something wrong with the coaches who make the cuts. Having
just come from a game where this middle school team was manhandled by a much
bigger team, I tried to explain that 5-2 tailbacks get killed in a 5-11 world,
but never mind...

In any case, ALL of my 6th and 7th graders have been told that Coach Roy EXPECTS
them to try out for, and if at all possible MAKE the middle school team next
year, and to follow last year's MVP on to the Varsity and beyond. I don't know
what I'll do with their parents, but if you can write a script for failure,
they're doing it big time.

[BTW - most of the minority kids, particularly linemen, know about my links to
NU, The Big 10 and Scout recruiting. I still have kids check in from 7 or 8
years to see how to go about getting recruited. I wish I could get to more of
them, but my son David was the last kid from around here to play College
football and start at any level.]

[BTW2 - The team that beat us, Sussex Central is the home HS to Luke Pettigout,
and the OT who just graduated from Wisconsin. They have several kids on their
Middle School team that look like good prospects. As usual, I'll be sending
their names along when they're more recruitable - something that ALL OF US on
this list should be doing.]

Go Cats - Sparty is hurt WORSE than we are! 
All that's hurt with our Cats is Pride - they've got serious injuries...

rsl


++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
Roy S. Lamberton - Senior Associate
Computer Applications & Support Associates
and Publisher of Purple Reign, 
The Scout.com Northwestern University Site
(http://www.purplewildcats.com)
AIM Handle: CoachRoy74
======== Go Cats -  Beat 'em All ===========
"You have a Republic Madam --
     If you can keep it" - Benjamin Franklin
============================================

> -----Original Message-----
> From: nwu-sports-bounces@tssi.com 
> [mailto:nwu-sports-bounces@tssi.com] On Behalf Of Jeff Beamsley
> Sent: Friday, October 20, 2006 5:15 PM
> To: nwu-sports@tssi.com
> Subject: RE: [NU Sports] Questions
> 
> 
> I think that it is all of the above including Baz.
> 
> I agree that winning will resolve this, but it will take 
> leadership from Fitz to earn the trust of the team.  It will 
> also take the team to realize that they are part of the 
> equation here too.  They have to be willing to commit before 
> anything good is going to happen.
> 
> I know that we all hoped that Fitz would be able to fill the 
> void left by RW. As much as he may want to be, Fitz is not RW 
> and the team is going to have to change as a result.  They 
> haven't all figured that out yet.
> 
> Jeff
> 
> BTW, I'm not sure the player/parent issues with RW ever 
> completely disappeared. But we covered some of the reasons 
> for that in a previous post.
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Roy Lamberton [mailto:rstetson@capps-assoc.com] 
> Sent: Friday, October 20, 2006 3:17 PM
> To: jeffb@hilgraeve.com; nwu-sports@tssi.com
> Subject: RE: [NU Sports] Questions
> 
> If the Blank is "Randy Walker" then its almost to be expected.
> 
> If the Blank is someone else, then I don't know what to tell you.
> 
> All I know is that these kinds of rumors swirled around the 
> team during RW's two bad years also, and quickly disappeared 
> [except on the message boards] once the team started winning.
> 
> rsl
> 
> ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
> Roy S. Lamberton - Senior Associate
> Computer Applications & Support Associates and Publisher of 
> Purple Reign, The Scout.com Northwestern University Site
> (http://www.purplewildcats.com)
> AIM Handle: CoachRoy74
> ======== Go Cats -  Beat 'em All =========== "You have a 
> Republic Madam --
>      If you can keep it" - Benjamin Franklin 
> ============================================
> 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: nwu-sports-bounces@tssi.com 
> [mailto:nwu-sports-bounces@tssi.com] 
> > On Behalf Of Jeff Beamsley
> > Sent: Friday, October 20, 2006 11:56 AM
> > To: nwu-sports@tssi.com
> > Subject: RE: [NU Sports] Questions
> > 
> > 
> > Roy,
> > 
> > I agree that this is the case on virtually any competitive 
> team where
> > you have starters and reserves.  This particular piece of gossip 
> > (that's all it is at this point) came from the parents of a 
> starter so 
> > it suggests a little more serious discontent.  But given everything 
> > that everyone on this team is going through, I'm not surprised that 
> > they are having a tough time rediscovering their team unity.  They 
> > aren't playing as well as they are capable of playing.  As 
> a result, 
> > they aren't competitive.  The good news is that they don't like to 
> > lose.  The bad news is that some may be thinking along the 
> lines of, 
> > "If _____ (you fill in the blank) were here we wouldn't be having 
> > these problems."
> > 
> > They (and we) need to trust that Fitz will lead them out of 
> this, but
> > it could easily take most of the season do it.
> > 
> > Jeff
> > 
> > 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Roy Lamberton [mailto:rstetson@capps-assoc.com]
> > Sent: Friday, October 20, 2006 10:38 AM
> > To: jeffb@hilgraeve.com; nwu-sports@tssi.com
> > Subject: RE: [NU Sports] Questions
> > 
> > Over the years I've learned that when a team isn't winning there are
> > almost always problems with the coaches and coordinators 
> when you talk 
> > to the kids who aren't starting or playing regularly.
> > 
> > I've had parents question my choices, and last night I 
> heard an earful
> > about player choices made by coaches at the lower levels of our HS 
> > program. [Which I didn't agree with, but kept my silence]
> > 
> > What I always tell my kids who raise the playing issue is that they
> > need to stop asking to play, and start stepping it up in 
> practice. If 
> > they can step it up against the starters, it makes them all better 
> > players.
> > 
> > I think Walker approached "problems" differently than Fitz 
> does - he'd
> > have to because he's a different guy, but I think RW was 
> approachable 
> > when a kid had a problem. [altho Webb and Walker apparently never 
> > "bonded."]
> > 
> > Anyway, parents are the first to hear the griping from 
> their kids and
> > will tend to share it with others who are in the same boat. I've 
> > always said that on a football team there are between 15-25 sets of 
> > parents who think the head coach is a genius. The rest 
> think he's an 
> > idiot for not playing their kid!
> > 
> > rsl
> > 
> > ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
> > Roy S. Lamberton - Senior Associate
> > Computer Applications & Support Associates and Publisher of Purple
> > Reign, The Scout.com Northwestern University Site
> > (http://www.purplewildcats.com)
> > AIM Handle: CoachRoy74
> > ======== Go Cats -  Beat 'em All =========== "You have a Republic 
> > Madam --
> >      If you can keep it" - Benjamin Franklin 
> > ============================================
> > 
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: nwu-sports-bounces@tssi.com
> > [mailto:nwu-sports-bounces@tssi.com]
> > > On Behalf Of Jeff Beamsley
> > > Sent: Friday, October 20, 2006 8:18 AM
> > > To: nwu-sports@tssi.com
> > > Subject: RE: [NU Sports] Questions
> > > 
> > > 
> > >  
> > > Just a little gossip to add to the mix.
> > > 
> > > I've heard through a third party close to a football 
> parent that at
> > > least one of the kids on the team describes serious 
> "problems" with 
> > > the new OC and DC.
> > > 
> > 
> > _______________________________________________
> > nwu-sports site list
> > nwu-sports@tssi.com 
> > http://romaine.tssi.com/mailman/listinfo/nwu-sports
> > 
> 
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From prplehaze at insightbb.com  Fri Oct 20 20:37:02 2006
From: prplehaze at insightbb.com (Mark Ament)
Date: Fri Oct 20 20:37:06 2006
Subject: [NU Sports] Questions
In-Reply-To: <cc4.b15484.326a593b@aol.com>
References: <cc4.b15484.326a593b@aol.com>
Message-ID: <453979BE.5010502@insightbb.com>

I've been mostly silent through the last week's commentary but I think 
this sums it up.  There ought to be changes in both coordinators at the 
end of the season and we are stuck with what we have through this year. 
Fitz is going to have to make sure he doesn't lose the team over it and 
I don't mean just players not playing up to their abilities but making 
sure we don't have an exodus of transfers.  If we have two new 
coordinators and don't lose any key players over the winter, life will 
look a whole lot better next spring and fall.
Mark

DPENDERG@aol.com wrote:

> 
>While gossip certainly remains gossip until we know the facts, there is  
>something seriously wrong with the coaching on both sides of the ball.   This team 
>has simply not played anywhere near its potential this season and the  
>coaching, I think, is the primary reason.  Yes, perhaps it's partly an  
>inexperienced head coach still finding his way.  But it's mainly a  defensive coordinator 
>who has presided over one of the worst D-IA  defenses over the last five years 
> and a new OC whose play selection  and preparation have been questionable at 
>best.  I see some  big-time changes coming after the season.
> 
> 
>In a message dated 10/20/2006 11:57:07 A.M. Eastern Standard Time,  
>jeffb@hilgraeve.com writes:
>
>Roy,
>
>I agree that this is the case on virtually any competitive  team where you
>have starters and reserves.  This particular piece of  gossip (that's all it
>is at this point) came from the parents of a starter  so it suggests a little
>more serious discontent.  But given everything  that everyone on this team is
>going through, I'm not surprised that they  are having a tough time
>rediscovering their team unity.  They aren't  playing as well as they are
>capable of playing.  As a result, they  aren't competitive.  The good news is
>that they don't like to  lose.  The bad news is that some may be thinking
>along the lines of,  "If _____ (you fill in the blank) were here we wouldn't
>be having these  problems."  
>
>They (and we) need to trust that Fitz will lead them  out of this, but it
>could easily take most of the season do  it.
>
>Jeff
>
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: Roy Lamberton  [mailto:rstetson@capps-assoc.com] 
>Sent: Friday, October 20, 2006 10:38  AM
>To: jeffb@hilgraeve.com; nwu-sports@tssi.com
>Subject: RE: [NU Sports]  Questions
>
>Over the years I've learned that when a team isn't winning  there are almost
>always problems with the coaches and coordinators when you  talk to the kids
>who aren't starting or playing regularly.
>
>I've had  parents question my choices, and last night I heard an earful about
>player  choices made by coaches at the lower levels of our HS program. [Which
>I  didn't agree with, but kept my silence] 
>
>What I always tell my kids who  raise the playing issue is that they need to
>stop asking to play, and start  stepping it up in practice. If they can step
>it up against the starters, it  makes them all better players.
>
>I think Walker approached "problems"  differently than Fitz does - he'd have
>to because he's a different guy, but  I think RW was approachable when a kid
>had a problem. [altho Webb and  Walker apparently never "bonded."]
>
>Anyway, parents are the first to  hear the griping from their kids and will
>tend to share it with others who  are in the same boat. I've always said that
>on a football team there are  between 15-25 sets of parents who think the
>head coach is a genius. The  rest think he's an idiot for not playing  their
>kid!
>
>rsl
>
>++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
>Roy  S. Lamberton - Senior Associate
>Computer Applications & Support  Associates and Publisher of Purple Reign,
>The Scout.com Northwestern  University Site
>(http://www.purplewildcats.com)
>AIM Handle:  CoachRoy74
>======== Go Cats -  Beat 'em All =========== "You have a  Republic Madam --
>If you can keep it" - Benjamin  Franklin
>============================================
>
>  
>
>> -----Original Message-----
>>From: nwu-sports-bounces@tssi.com
>> [mailto:nwu-sports-bounces@tssi.com] On Behalf Of Jeff Beamsley
>>Sent:  Friday, October 20, 2006 8:18 AM
>>To: nwu-sports@tssi.com
>> Subject: RE: [NU Sports] Questions
>>
>>
>> 
>> Just a little gossip to add to the mix.
>>
>>I've heard through a  third party close to a football parent that at 
>>least one of the kids  on the team describes serious "problems" with 
>>the new OC and  DC.
>> 
>>    
>>
>
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From NEONRye at aol.com  Sat Oct 21 11:39:38 2006
From: NEONRye at aol.com (NEONRye@aol.com)
Date: Sat Oct 21 11:39:48 2006
Subject: [NU Sports] We Have A QB!!!!
Message-ID: <488.f583971.326ba74a@aol.com>

What a great opening drive.  Bacher looks like the real deal--a worthy  
successor to Zak and Brett.  Look no more, Fitz, your leader is now healthy  and 
ready to rumble.  Who cares if he is not the second coming of Michael  Vick as a 
runner, he knows how to throw the football, make decisions and run the  "O".  
Let's go 'Cats, the turning point in the season is at hand.....
 
 
Paul Levinson
From alan.abrahamson at nbcuni.com  Sat Oct 21 12:30:26 2006
From: alan.abrahamson at nbcuni.com (Abrahamson, Alan (NBC Universal))
Date: Sat Oct 21 12:31:38 2006
Subject: [NU Sports] Update help, por favor
Message-ID: <33C4F11DF8639640A51C79CB484166FFA414F6@RKFMLVEM02.e2k.ad.ge.com>

 Greetings, fellow Wildcat listmates,
 1. It is my birthday. 
 2. I am now stuck at kid soccer games til end of Wildcat game. 
 3. When I left the radio, it was 14-3 and Wildcats had a qb. 
 4. Could anyone offer semi-regular list updates so I can revel in birthday-wish whipping of Sparty? I have BlackBerry so regular e-mail access. 
 Go Cats! Alan
 

From bondscoop at megapathdsl.net  Sat Oct 21 12:46:23 2006
From: bondscoop at megapathdsl.net (Michael Jackson)
Date: Sat Oct 21 12:46:38 2006
Subject: [NU Sports] Update help, por favor
In-Reply-To: <33C4F11DF8639640A51C79CB484166FFA414F6@RKFMLVEM02.e2k.ad.ge.com>
Message-ID: <000001c6f538$d6d45090$0a01a8c0@Mike>

Halftime  24-3  NU has not punted yet.  Missed a late field goal.
Defense has stiffened after first MSU drive, with a late turnover.  WE
HAVE A QB!!

-----Original Message-----
From: nwu-sports-bounces@tssi.com [mailto:nwu-sports-bounces@tssi.com]
On Behalf Of Abrahamson, Alan (NBC Universal)
Sent: Saturday, October 21, 2006 12:30 PM
To: nwu-sports@tssi.com
Subject: [NU Sports] Update help, por favor

 Greetings, fellow Wildcat listmates,
 1. It is my birthday. 
 2. I am now stuck at kid soccer games til end of Wildcat game. 
 3. When I left the radio, it was 14-3 and Wildcats had a qb. 
 4. Could anyone offer semi-regular list updates so I can revel in
birthday-wish whipping of Sparty? I have BlackBerry so regular e-mail
access. 
 Go Cats! Alan
 

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From bondscoop at megapathdsl.net  Sat Oct 21 13:01:02 2006
From: bondscoop at megapathdsl.net (Michael Jackson)
Date: Sat Oct 21 13:01:09 2006
Subject: [NU Sports] Bad News
Message-ID: <000901c6f53a$df265f20$0a01a8c0@Mike>

Nick Roach taken off field on a stretcher.
From alan.abrahamson at nbcuni.com  Sat Oct 21 13:04:56 2006
From: alan.abrahamson at nbcuni.com (Abrahamson, Alan (NBC Universal))
Date: Sat Oct 21 13:05:05 2006
Subject: [NU Sports] Thx, everyone!
Message-ID: <33C4F11DF8639640A51C79CB484166FFA414F7@RKFMLVEM02.e2k.ad.ge.com>

 Keep 'em coming!
  Go Wildcats!

From MHRJGScott at aol.com  Sat Oct 21 13:08:40 2006
From: MHRJGScott at aol.com (MHRJGScott@aol.com)
Date: Sat Oct 21 13:08:49 2006
Subject: [NU Sports] Update help, por favor
Message-ID: <c00.798fe7e.326bbc28@aol.com>

happy birthday, 38-3, yes really.
From bondscoop at megapathdsl.net  Sat Oct 21 13:18:24 2006
From: bondscoop at megapathdsl.net (Michael Jackson)
Date: Sat Oct 21 13:18:30 2006
Subject: [NU Sports] Update
Message-ID: <000f01c6f53d$4c5ecfd0$0a01a8c0@Mike>

38-10  MSU scores despite a total of 5 dropped passes by receivers.
From bondscoop at megapathdsl.net  Sat Oct 21 13:30:59 2006
From: bondscoop at megapathdsl.net (Michael Jackson)
Date: Sat Oct 21 13:31:05 2006
Subject: [NU Sports] Score
Message-ID: <001401c6f53f$0e2701e0$0a01a8c0@Mike>

38-17 2:47 left in third.  We miss Roach and their receivers are holding
on to the ball.
From bondscoop at megapathdsl.net  Sat Oct 21 13:35:57 2006
From: bondscoop at megapathdsl.net (Michael Jackson)
Date: Sat Oct 21 13:36:08 2006
Subject: [NU Sports] update
Message-ID: <001901c6f53f$c3208170$0a01a8c0@Mike>

Interception in end zone by MSU!  
64 yd run by Sutton.  He has over 150 yards on 17 carries.  Over 9 yards
per carry.
From nolan at romaine.tssi.com  Sat Oct 21 13:45:15 2006
From: nolan at romaine.tssi.com (Mike Nolan)
Date: Sat Oct 21 13:45:19 2006
Subject: [NU Sports] Another update
Message-ID: <200610211845.k9LIjFeF031001@romaine.tssi.com>

MSU scores again, NU gets to the red zone with a great run by Sutton, then
MSU intercepts a ball in the end zone on a deflection. 

Stanton is now out after getting pushed out of bounds, drawing the flag,
so it's 38-17 at the start of the 4th quarter.  Stanton's replacement is 
moving the team down the field, but the Cats intercept it and have the 
ball around midfield.
--
Mike Nolan

From nolan at romaine.tssi.com  Sat Oct 21 13:48:05 2006
From: nolan at romaine.tssi.com (Mike Nolan)
Date: Sat Oct 21 13:48:09 2006
Subject: [NU Sports] MSU scores again
Message-ID: <200610211848.k9LIm5SJ031178@romaine.tssi.com>

Blocked punt, now it's 24-38, hold on to your hats!
--
Mike Nolan

From bondscoop at megapathdsl.net  Sat Oct 21 13:49:37 2006
From: bondscoop at megapathdsl.net (Michael Jackson)
Date: Sat Oct 21 13:49:48 2006
Subject: [NU Sports] MSU scores
Message-ID: <001e01c6f541$ac018d20$0a01a8c0@Mike>

38-24  MSU blocks punt for score after NU interception.  11:22 left in
fourth.  Trevor Reese down with injury.  
From alan.abrahamson at nbcuni.com  Sat Oct 21 13:54:20 2006
From: alan.abrahamson at nbcuni.com (Abrahamson, Alan (NBC Universal))
Date: Sat Oct 21 13:54:25 2006
Subject: [NU Sports] Aieee
Message-ID: <33C4F11DF8639640A51C79CB484166FFA414FC@RKFMLVEM02.e2k.ad.ge.com>

 Let's go, Wildcats!

From bondscoop at megapathdsl.net  Sat Oct 21 14:01:15 2006
From: bondscoop at megapathdsl.net (Michael Jackson)
Date: Sat Oct 21 14:01:29 2006
Subject: [NU Sports] Oh oh
Message-ID: <002301c6f543$4c0e5720$0a01a8c0@Mike>

38-31  7:54 to go.  Stanton back in game and scores.  Led drive of 60
yards.  NU missing Roach.
From bondscoop at megapathdsl.net  Sat Oct 21 14:06:57 2006
From: bondscoop at megapathdsl.net (Michael Jackson)
Date: Sat Oct 21 14:07:09 2006
Subject: [NU Sports] 5:48 to go
Message-ID: <002801c6f544$17880810$0a01a8c0@Mike>

MSU ball on their 41 yd line after third straight 3 and out for
Wildcats.
From nolan at romaine.tssi.com  Sat Oct 21 14:12:01 2006
From: nolan at romaine.tssi.com (Mike Nolan)
Date: Sat Oct 21 14:12:19 2006
Subject: [NU Sports] Are we TRYING to save John L's job??
Message-ID: <200610211912.k9LJC1Jk000529@romaine.tssi.com>

This is getting ridiculous!

Let's get a defensive stop, or do something other than a 3 and out on
offense!

Can we win this game if it goes to overtime?
--
Mike Nolan

From HUDHAIFA3 at aol.com  Sat Oct 21 14:13:24 2006
From: HUDHAIFA3 at aol.com (HUDHAIFA3@aol.com)
Date: Sat Oct 21 14:13:31 2006
Subject: [NU Sports] 5:48 to go
Message-ID: <4aa.361e256e.326bcb54@aol.com>

I can't believe this shit.
Tied up at 38.........
UNREAL
From bondscoop at megapathdsl.net  Sat Oct 21 14:14:12 2006
From: bondscoop at megapathdsl.net (Michael Jackson)
Date: Sat Oct 21 14:14:25 2006
Subject: [NU Sports] 3:43
Message-ID: <002f01c6f545$1ad6ef80$0a01a8c0@Mike>

Tied up!  Stanton with a great throw and a great catch to tie it up.  NU
D back to its usual self.  No rush with only 3 down linemen.  And no
coverage either!
From cdm at goodshow.net  Sat Oct 21 14:25:57 2006
From: cdm at goodshow.net (Colette Marine)
Date: Sat Oct 21 14:26:18 2006
Subject: [NU Sports] ugliest game ever?
Message-ID: <55193507de6f5324871a1fb38db1f9c0@goodshow.net>

Gotta be right up there.

Unbelievable.

From nolan at romaine.tssi.com  Sat Oct 21 14:32:52 2006
From: nolan at romaine.tssi.com (Mike Nolan)
Date: Sat Oct 21 14:32:56 2006
Subject: [NU Sports] ugliest game ever? (fwd)
Message-ID: <200610211932.k9LJWqf0001871@romaine.tssi.com>

> Gotta be right up there.
> 
> Unbelievable.

Yeah, blowing a 38-3 lead to lose 41-38 is going to send sportswriters
scrambling for the record books.
--
Mike Nolan

From MHRJGScott at aol.com  Sat Oct 21 14:33:25 2006
From: MHRJGScott at aol.com (MHRJGScott@aol.com)
Date: Sat Oct 21 14:33:34 2006
Subject: [NU Sports] record setting collapse
Message-ID: <c71.2f8c1a2.326bd005@aol.com>

Well we set 2 ncaa records, most points blown, and most points blown in the  
second half, can it get worse?
From alan.abrahamson at nbcuni.com  Sat Oct 21 14:35:44 2006
From: alan.abrahamson at nbcuni.com (Abrahamson, Alan (NBC Universal))
Date: Sat Oct 21 14:36:56 2006
Subject: [NU Sports] Birthday bummer
Message-ID: <33C4F11DF8639640A51C79CB484166FFA414FE@RKFMLVEM02.e2k.ad.ge.com>

 Thx to everyone for the updates.  Unbelievable collapse. 

From johnadeg at bellatlantic.net  Sat Oct 21 14:39:28 2006
From: johnadeg at bellatlantic.net (John A. DeGroat)
Date: Sat Oct 21 14:39:34 2006
Subject: [NU Sports] We Have A QB!!!!
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We may have a quarterback but we still have the same rotten defense and 
special teams that we have had going back as many years as you care to go.

Fitzgerald needs to replace all of his defense and special teams coaches 
and start all over Otherwise, we go back to the 1980's.  It shouldn't  
take a Ph.D. in logic  t o figure out that the defense plays way too far 
of of the receivers.  This is the same problem that has plagued NU going 
back to when Walker arrived.

It's too bad that the game was on national TV because it will scare off 
players that might otherwise have an nteret in NU.

John DeGroat

NEONRye@aol.com wrote:

>What a great opening drive.  Bacher looks like the real deal--a worthy  
>successor to Zak and Brett.  Look no more, Fitz, your leader is now healthy  and 
>ready to rumble.  Who cares if he is not the second coming of Michael  Vick as a 
>runner, he knows how to throw the football, make decisions and run the  "O".  
>Let's go 'Cats, the turning point in the season is at hand.....
> 
> 
>Paul Levinson
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From cdm at goodshow.net  Sat Oct 21 14:45:27 2006
From: cdm at goodshow.net (Colette Marine)
Date: Sat Oct 21 14:45:36 2006
Subject: [NU Sports] ugliest game ever? (fwd)
In-Reply-To: <200610211932.k9LJWqf0001871@romaine.tssi.com>
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On Oct 21, 2006, at 2:32 PM, Mike Nolan wrote:

>> Gotta be right up there.
>>
>> Unbelievable.
>
> Yeah, blowing a 38-3 lead to lose 41-38 is going to send sportswriters
> scrambling for the record books.

When I pulled into the driveway after coming home from the grocery 
store, the Spartans had just tied the game.  I walked in the house, put 
a few things in the freezer, flipped on WGN, and the Spartans were at 
something-and-goal again.  WTF happened?  I really had to spend a 
minute parsing the fact that WGN actually wasn't re-playing the last 
touchdown.  Hard to fathom a collapse like that.

From nolan at romaine.tssi.com  Sat Oct 21 14:58:22 2006
From: nolan at romaine.tssi.com (Mike Nolan)
Date: Sat Oct 21 14:58:25 2006
Subject: [NU Sports] We Have A QB!!!! (fwd)
Message-ID: <200610211958.k9LJwMF7003362@romaine.tssi.com>

> It's too bad that the game was on national TV because it will scare off 
> players that might otherwise have an nteret in NU.

Not necessarily.  I think it shows the potential, and more importantly
the need for additional talent.

The Sporting News says that NU is quietly putting together its best
recruiting class in years.  
--
Mike Nolan

From cherron604 at aol.com  Sat Oct 21 15:45:29 2006
From: cherron604 at aol.com (cherron604@aol.com)
Date: Sat Oct 21 15:45:33 2006
Subject: [NU Sports] Oh oh
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Who exactly made the decision to put Nick Roach out on a punt coverage team ?
 
The Bears don't send Brian Urlacher out for punts, the Ravens don't send Ray Lewis out there.
 
Whoever made that decision oughta be composing his letter of resignation NOW
 
Chuck Herron   Tech '85 
 
 
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Subject: [NU Sports] Oh oh


38-31  7:54 to go.  Stanton back in game and scores.  Led drive of 60
yards.  NU missing Roach.
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From cherron604 at aol.com  Sat Oct 21 15:49:59 2006
From: cherron604 at aol.com (cherron604@aol.com)
Date: Sat Oct 21 15:50:06 2006
Subject: [NU Sports] record setting collapse
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Greg Colby would like to remind you...
 
He also set the record last year for the biggest lead blown in a bowl game - UCLA overcame the early 22 point lead to storm back and win 50-38
 
Congrats again, Coach Colby !
 
Chuck Herron   Tech '85 
 
 
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Sent: Sat, 21 Oct 2006 2:33 PM
Subject: [NU Sports] record setting collapse


Well we set 2 ncaa records, most points blown, and most points blown in the  
second half, can it get worse?
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From cherron604 at aol.com  Sat Oct 21 16:01:21 2006
From: cherron604 at aol.com (cherron604@aol.com)
Date: Sat Oct 21 16:01:26 2006
Subject: [NU Sports] We Have A QB!!!! (fwd)
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If it scares off a few recruits, maybe that will get some coaching changes made
 
God knows, simple ineptitude in the past has not threatened the jobs of Greg Colby, Jerry Brown, et al
 
If it takes some embarrassing losses to get rid of an incompetent staff, then so be it.
 
A list to start:
 
- Jerry Brown, DB coach - probably the worst-coached DB's in the nation
 
- Greg Colby, DC - author of the nation's worst defense SEVERAL TIMES
 
- Garrick McGee, OC - zero experience as an OC, and no indication that he can do the job
 
- Brett Ingalls, OL coach - Inherited a large, veteran O-line - which can neither pass block nor run block
 
- Eric Washington, DL coach - veteran unit also (24 starts ?) but cannot pressure any QB
 
Chuck Herron   Tech '85 
 
 
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Subject: Re: [NU Sports] We Have A QB!!!! (fwd)


> It's too bad that the game was on national TV because it will scare off 
> players that might otherwise have an nteret in NU.

Not necessarily.  I think it shows the potential, and more importantly
the need for additional talent.

The Sporting News says that NU is quietly putting together its best
recruiting class in years.  
--
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From rstetson at capps-assoc.com  Sat Oct 21 16:03:20 2006
From: rstetson at capps-assoc.com (Roy Lamberton)
Date: Sat Oct 21 16:03:13 2006
Subject: [NU Sports] We Have A QB!!!!
In-Reply-To: <453A7770.4050301@bellatlantic.net>
Message-ID: <000601c6f554$57006720$6401a8c0@DAVIDXP>

Since Fitz is the special teams coach....

And I think we'd be short sighted to blow out Washington, Colby and Bates given
the state of the kids coming up.

If you actually look at what happened, MSU exploited Nick Roach's early
departure by throwing to the spot where Malleo, who was the only backup there
[Simpson is hurt], putting a WR up on a LB. I don't care how good you are as a
LB coach, you can't produce a Nick Roach out of the air - it takes 5 years.
Malleo's been a LB for 1.

MSU's O-line, which had been shakey all game suddenly decided they were going to
block. Once again, 3 D-Line, 4 D-Line, hell, we could have rushed 6 D-Linemen.
They were going to give Stanton the 2 or 3 seconds he needed to make the play in
the 2nd half.

NU has been on a mission over the past 2 years to recruit speed. The kind of
speed that it takes to play in the Big 10. My point Thursday in the Scout.com
article was that all of our guys coming in are as fast, if not faster than the
starters now, and maybe as fast as some of the MSU guys who were out there
breaking up passes at the end of the game.

The O-Line, which looked decent, suddenly lost their middle, the glue that was
holding it together, and we saw errant snaps, after Trevor got hurt.

Some will say these are excuses. As a coach, they're things we need to work on.

Anyway, I'm tired of 5 years of fire this coach or fire that coach based on how
the team plays on a given Saturday. I'm always amazed at how great an assistant
can be when the team is winning, then the next week he's a dunce because....

rsl

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and Publisher of Purple Reign, 
The Scout.com Northwestern University Site
(http://www.purplewildcats.com)
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: nwu-sports-bounces@tssi.com 
> [mailto:nwu-sports-bounces@tssi.com] On Behalf Of John A. DeGroat
> Sent: Saturday, October 21, 2006 3:39 PM
> To: NEONRye@aol.com
> Cc: nwu-sports@romaine.tssi.com
> Subject: Re: [NU Sports] We Have A QB!!!!
> 
> 
> We may have a quarterback but we still have the same rotten 
> defense and 
> special teams that we have had going back as many years as 
> you care to go.
> 
> Fitzgerald needs to replace all of his defense and special 
> teams coaches 
> and start all over Otherwise, we go back to the 1980's.  It 
> shouldn't  
> take a Ph.D. in logic  t o figure out that the defense plays 
> way too far 
> of of the receivers.  This is the same problem that has 
> plagued NU going 
> back to when Walker arrived.
> 
> It's too bad that the game was on national TV because it will 
> scare off 
> players that might otherwise have an nteret in NU.
> 
> John DeGroat
> 
> NEONRye@aol.com wrote:
> 
> >What a great opening drive.  Bacher looks like the real 
> deal--a worthy
> >successor to Zak and Brett.  Look no more, Fitz, your leader 
> is now healthy  and 
> >ready to rumble.  Who cares if he is not the second coming 
> of Michael  Vick as a 
> >runner, he knows how to throw the football, make decisions 
> and run the  "O".  
> >Let's go 'Cats, the turning point in the season is at hand.....
> > 
> > 
> >Paul Levinson
> >_______________________________________________
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> >nwu-sports@tssi.com 
> http://romaine.tssi.com/mailman/listinfo/nwu-sports
> >
> >
> >  
> >
> 
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From NEONRye at aol.com  Sat Oct 21 16:03:10 2006
From: NEONRye at aol.com (NEONRye@aol.com)
Date: Sat Oct 21 16:03:16 2006
Subject: [NU Sports] Oh oh
Message-ID: <cb2.1575b21.326be50e@aol.com>

I was thinking the same thing, Chuck.  Glad you said it, although  since Fitz 
coaches the Special Teams, if memory serves, it looks like the arrow  is 
pointing at the HC.
 
Paul Levinson
From cherron604 at aol.com  Sat Oct 21 16:11:03 2006
From: cherron604 at aol.com (cherron604@aol.com)
Date: Sat Oct 21 16:11:08 2006
Subject: [NU Sports] Oh oh
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I was particularly disturbed by a post-game comment in the locker room, something like 'we really missed Nick Roach out there'...
 
Then DON'T send him out on punt coverage, especially when so many returns feature clips and illegal blocks
 
You're just asking for trouble when you do that
 
(Sorry for so many e-mails...still steaming after the drive home from Dyche...)
 
Chuck Herron   Tech '85 
 
 
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Sent: Sat, 21 Oct 2006 4:03 PM
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I was thinking the same thing, Chuck.  Glad you said it, although since Fitz coaches the Special Teams, if memory serves, it looks like the arrow is pointing at the HC.
 
Paul Levinson
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From cherron604 at aol.com  Sat Oct 21 16:40:56 2006
From: cherron604 at aol.com (cherron604@aol.com)
Date: Sat Oct 21 16:41:02 2006
Subject: [NU Sports] We Have A QB!!!!
In-Reply-To: <000601c6f554$57006720$6401a8c0@DAVIDXP>
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It has NOT been 5 years of fire/don't fire Colby and Brown
 
It has been a consistent 5-year call to get both of them as far away from Evanston as possible
 
Many on this list questioned Colby's credentials when he got here (i.e. the stellar Kent defense)
 
Many also have questioned JB (constantly, consistently and correctly) since his horrific days as co-DC
 
So nobody should pretend that calls to get rid of Colby and Brown are hot-and-cold things that change by week
 
The drumbeat on this list to fire Colby has been a constant throughout his sorry tenure
 
In fact, I cannot recall one game in which anyone was so impressed by Colby that they said - 'Let's ofer that man an extension !  So OSU doesn't steal him away !'
 
Are we to understand that after 4 years of Colby (and 13 years of Brown), that both men have suddenly realized that speed is good, and that they're gonna get to work on that right away, and everything will be sunshine and rainbows ?
 
So we should ignore 17 combined years of incompetence, because, hey - they're recruiting SPEED, now !
 
Chuck Herron   Tech '85
 
 
 
 
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Cc: nwu-sports@romaine.tssi.com
Sent: Sat, 21 Oct 2006 4:03 PM
Subject: RE: [NU Sports] We Have A QB!!!!


Since Fitz is the special teams coach....

And I think we'd be short sighted to blow out Washington, Colby and Bates given
the state of the kids coming up.

If you actually look at what happened, MSU exploited Nick Roach's early
departure by throwing to the spot where Malleo, who was the only backup there
[Simpson is hurt], putting a WR up on a LB. I don't care how good you are as a
LB coach, you can't produce a Nick Roach out of the air - it takes 5 years.
Malleo's been a LB for 1.

MSU's O-line, which had been shakey all game suddenly decided they were going to
block. Once again, 3 D-Line, 4 D-Line, hell, we could have rushed 6 D-Linemen.
They were going to give Stanton the 2 or 3 seconds he needed to make the play in
the 2nd half.

NU has been on a mission over the past 2 years to recruit speed. The kind of
speed that it takes to play in the Big 10. My point Thursday in the Scout.com
article was that all of our guys coming in are as fast, if not faster than the
starters now, and maybe as fast as some of the MSU guys who were out there
breaking up passes at the end of the game.

The O-Line, which looked decent, suddenly lost their middle, the glue that was
holding it together, and we saw errant snaps, after Trevor got hurt.

Some will say these are excuses. As a coach, they're things we need to work on.

Anyway, I'm tired of 5 years of fire this coach or fire that coach based on how
the team plays on a given Saturday. I'm always amazed at how great an assistant
can be when the team is winning, then the next week he's a dunce because....

rsl

++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
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Computer Applications & Support Associates
and Publisher of Purple Reign, 
The Scout.com Northwestern University Site
(http://www.purplewildcats.com)
AIM Handle: CoachRoy74
======== Go Cats -  Beat 'em All ===========
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============================================

> -----Original Message-----
> From: nwu-sports-bounces@tssi.com 
> [mailto:nwu-sports-bounces@tssi.com] On Behalf Of John A. DeGroat
> Sent: Saturday, October 21, 2006 3:39 PM
> To: NEONRye@aol.com
> Cc: nwu-sports@romaine.tssi.com
> Subject: Re: [NU Sports] We Have A QB!!!!
> 
> 
> We may have a quarterback but we still have the same rotten 
> defense and 
> special teams that we have had going back as many years as 
> you care to go.
> 
> Fitzgerald needs to replace all of his defense and special 
> teams coaches 
> and start all over Otherwise, we go back to the 1980's.  It 
> shouldn't  
> take a Ph.D. in logic  t o figure out that the defense plays 
> way too far 
> of of the receivers.  This is the same problem that has 
> plagued NU going 
> back to when Walker arrived.
> 
> It's too bad that the game was on national TV because it will 
> scare off 
> players that might otherwise have an nteret in NU.
> 
> John DeGroat
> 
> NEONRye@aol.com wrote:
> 
> >What a great opening drive.  Bacher looks like the real 
> deal--a worthy
> >successor to Zak and Brett.  Look no more, Fitz, your leader 
> is now healthy  and 
> >ready to rumble.  Who cares if he is not the second coming 
> of Michael  Vick as a 
> >runner, he knows how to throw the football, make decisions 
> and run the  "O".  
> >Let's go 'Cats, the turning point in the season is at hand.....
> > 
> > 
> >Paul Levinson
> >_______________________________________________
> >nwu-sports site list
> >nwu-sports@tssi.com 
> http://romaine.tssi.com/mailman/listinfo/nwu-sports
> >
> >
> >  
> >
> 
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From johnl at mac.com  Sat Oct 21 16:48:05 2006
From: johnl at mac.com (John Labbe)
Date: Sat Oct 21 16:48:22 2006
Subject: [NU Sports] Roach
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Anyone seen anything about Roach's status?

He wasn't actually taken out on a stretcher; he was driven out on the 
cart, but he was sitting up.

Later, he was back out on the field sitting on a table on the sideline 
with his lower leg and foot heavily bandaged.

The defense may have collapsed in the second half, but you can't blame 
it all on them.  The D did a great job to hold a good Spartan offense 
to 3 points in the first half.  The D also had several takeaways that 
led to scores.

After Bacher threw that interception for a touchback in the third 
quarter we didn't have another first down on our final 5 drives.  No 
first downs the entire 4th quarter, and a total of I believe 15 yards 
of offense.  Throw in a couple of first downs, and MSU wouldn't have 
had the ball as much.

The blocked punt was a total mental breakdown.  We let the clock run 
down too far before we snapped it, while the snapper appeared to be 
doing calisthenics in the middle of the field.  Simply get that punt 
off and we probably would have won the game.

From NEONRye at aol.com  Sat Oct 21 17:04:07 2006
From: NEONRye at aol.com (NEONRye@aol.com)
Date: Sat Oct 21 17:04:13 2006
Subject: [NU Sports] We Have A QB!!!!
Message-ID: <374.c50e0f4.326bf357@aol.com>

I liked the 3-man rush for what seemed like an eternity throughout the  
Second Half as the lead slipped steadily away, thereby eliminating even the  
possibility of a pass rush.  It sure worked, didn't It?
 
Paul Levinson
From NEONRye at aol.com  Sat Oct 21 17:09:48 2006
From: NEONRye at aol.com (NEONRye@aol.com)
Date: Sat Oct 21 17:09:51 2006
Subject: [NU Sports] We Have A New Record
Message-ID: <c92.4716a0.326bf4ac@aol.com>

MSU's comeback was, according to this AP wire story, the biggest comeback  in 
NCAA Div. I-AA history.  Who needs records like this!
 
_http://sports.aol.com/ncaafb/story/_a/spartans-stage-biggest-division-i-a/200
61021163809990001?cid=592_ 
(http://sports.aol.com/ncaafb/story/_a/spartans-stage-biggest-division-i-a/20061021163809990001?cid=592) 
 
Paul Levinson
From cherron604 at aol.com  Sat Oct 21 17:22:10 2006
From: cherron604 at aol.com (cherron604@aol.com)
Date: Sat Oct 21 17:22:18 2006
Subject: [NU Sports] Roach
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I'm not so sure it was our good defense holding down State in the first half - many of their issues seemed to be dropped passes and John L's insistence on trying to establish the run.
 
On the blocked punt I have a question - why did the official stand over the ball as MSU ran-off their 4th down D and ran-on their punt-blocking unit ?  Does the defense have a right to  get their desired team out there ?  If so, why do we play that silly game where we send out the 4th-down unit (to the hashmarks) while the punter stands in his place, then we quickly swap units ?
 
If the officials are always going to let the defense substitute like that, why bother trying to fool the D ?
 
Chuck Herron   Tech '85 
 
 
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Sent: Sat, 21 Oct 2006 4:48 PM
Subject: [NU Sports] Roach


Anyone seen anything about Roach's status? 
 
He wasn't actually taken out on a stretcher; he was driven out on the cart, but he was sitting up. 
 
Later, he was back out on the field sitting on a table on the sideline with his lower leg and foot heavily bandaged. 
 
The defense may have collapsed in the second half, but you can't blame it all on them. The D did a great job to hold a good Spartan offense to 3 points in the first half. The D also had several takeaways that led to scores. 
 
After Bacher threw that interception for a touchback in the third quarter we didn't have another first down on our final 5 drives. No first downs the entire 4th quarter, and a total of I believe 15 yards of offense. Throw in a couple of first downs, and MSU wouldn't have had the ball as much. 
 
The blocked punt was a total mental breakdown. We let the clock run down too far before we snapped it, while the snapper appeared to be doing calisthenics in the middle of the field. Simply get that punt off and we probably would have won the game. 
 
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From szeller at comcast.net  Sat Oct 21 17:26:27 2006
From: szeller at comcast.net (szeller@comcast.net)
Date: Sat Oct 21 17:26:28 2006
Subject: [NU Sports] We Have A New Record
Message-ID: <102120062226.8217.453A9E93000731D40000201922058891169D0A04040A969C@comcast.net>

I'll say this for NU football: we seem to have a knack for being newsworthy, no matter what is going on.

This is not the way to be in the headlines, however. I am already expecting years of teasing and trash talking about this game.

Scott Zeller MD
Med '86

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> MSU's comeback was, according to this AP wire story, the biggest comeback in 
> NCAA Div. I-AA history. Who needs records like this! 
> 
> _http://sports.aol.com/ncaafb/story/_a/spartans-stage-biggest-division-i-a/200 
> 61021163809990001?cid=592_ 
> (http://sports.aol.com/ncaafb/story/_a/spartans-stage-biggest-division-i-a/20061 
> 021163809990001?cid=592) 
> 
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From nolan at romaine.tssi.com  Sat Oct 21 17:40:41 2006
From: nolan at romaine.tssi.com (Mike Nolan)
Date: Sat Oct 21 17:40:46 2006
Subject: [NU Sports] We Have A New Record (fwd)
Message-ID: <200610212240.k9LMefET013516@romaine.tssi.com>

> This is not the way to be in the headlines, however. I am already expecting years of teasing and trash talking about this game.

If it comes from MSU fans, just remind them that we probably saved John L.
Smith's job for another year.  That ought to shut them up, regardless of
what they think of John L.

Personally, I think it's carmic payback for the Bears win on Monday.

However, it appears that this is a team (and/or coaching staff) that does not 
yet know how to win a game that the other team is giving you.  I think 
they made progress in the first half today, especially at QB, but we're
almost back to square one in terms of having a QB with game experience.
--
Mike Nolan

From bwdolphin146 at yahoo.com  Sat Oct 21 18:00:02 2006
From: bwdolphin146 at yahoo.com (Brad Wilson)
Date: Sat Oct 21 18:00:09 2006
Subject: [NU Sports] sorry, coach roy, but ...  
Message-ID: <20061021230002.83170.qmail@web51311.mail.yahoo.com>

Still don't think we need a special teams coach?

And Brown has to go. Now. I have exhausted myself over
the years complaining about whatever unit Brown was
ineptly in charge of and I will say no more other than
he needs to go. If he has to stay at NU, which I get,
make him assistant deputy AD in charge of the flower
beds outside of Dyche or whatever. 

If Colby had any honor he'd have quit on the spot
today. 

I don't care if the offense did nothing after taking a
38-3 lead, 38-3 leads should be safe.

This is the worst loss I can ever remember, period.
For those who were there, my condolences. Had I been
there, I'd have killed somebody. Maybe myself.

Brad Wilson




 

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From tbng at comcast.net  Sat Oct 21 18:02:09 2006
From: tbng at comcast.net (Dennis W. Brandt)
Date: Sat Oct 21 18:02:39 2006
Subject: [NU Sports] You are kidding.  Right?
Message-ID: <001d01c6f564$f040ef80$c402a8c0@DennisMachine>

Was C. J. Bacher that much better today, or did Michigan State just not give a damn for a long while?  It was probably a little bit of the former and one whopping amount of the latter.  Once MSU started caring, Bacher vanished along with the offensive line.
  Once again, the pass rush from the defensive line was nonexistent.  Someone no doubt will grouse that it was because we only rushed three for so long.  What difference did it make?  We rushed three, four, five six. . .  Hell, the entire student body could have charged the field, and we still would not have sacked Stanton.  WE HAVE NO TALENT ON THE DEFENSIVE LINE!  WHEN ARE WE GOING TO GET SOME?  We don't have any great cover men in the secondary, but their problems began with the front four.

  Once again - once too DAMN many times - our special teams SUCKED!  Year after mournful year we are forced to watch kickoffs go out of bounds, field goals get missed, punts get blocked or hardly go anywhere, and kick returners go nowhere.  Special teams was strong reason the '95 team succeeded, the Miami of Ohio debacle notwithstanding.

  Once again, we blew opportunity after opportunity to put this game away, then just stood at the bottom of the mountain once the avalanche started and watched it to crash down on us.

  A game that could have made this a worthwhile year has instead probably utterly destroyed it and no doubt will have a detrimental effect on recruiting.
From cherron604 at aol.com  Sat Oct 21 18:16:10 2006
From: cherron604 at aol.com (cherron604@aol.com)
Date: Sat Oct 21 18:16:19 2006
Subject: [NU Sports] Ohio
Message-ID: <8C8C37E07731486-97C-724B@WEBMAIL-MB07.sysops.aol.com>

Is there any way the Nov 11th game can be moved back to the daylight hours ?  It plays out as an awful game - Ohio will be something like a 40-point favorite.  No one will watch outside of Ohio.  We can only HOPE that no one watches...5 minutes of the GM offense and/or the GC/JB defense, and recruits will be scrambling to read up on Lehigh and North Dakota State.
 
As it is now, the Sat night game will feature terrible traffic, terrible parking, awful concessions, cold weather, too many scarlet and gray fans spread out all over Dyche, and an awful game.  Can we play it at noon, and hope that the outcome goes largely unnoticed ?
 
I am surprised that ESPN (or whoever might want to televise it) hasn't ordered the Big Ten to provide a better game for the time slot.
 
Chuck Herron   Tech '85 
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From johnadeg at bellatlantic.net  Sat Oct 21 18:31:30 2006
From: johnadeg at bellatlantic.net (John A. DeGroat)
Date: Sat Oct 21 18:31:59 2006
Subject: [NU Sports] ugliest game ever? (fwd)
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They won't have to look far, that was the biggest blown lead in Division 
I-A history.  NU will now be remembered for two ignominious records, 
this one and the longest losing streak in Division I-A history unless 
Columbia took that record away a couple of years ago.  Murphy should 
call a coaches meeting and tell them that no one's job is safe next 
year, especially the defense and special teams coaches.  Fitzgerald gets 
a pass for now because of the circumstances surrounding how he became 
head coach.  Think about this too, MSU at at lest five starters out  
because of legal problems and injuries,  There is no excuse for losing 
this game. What a disgrace.

John DeGroat

Mike Nolan wrote:

>>Gotta be right up there.
>>
>>Unbelievable.
>>    
>>
>
>Yeah, blowing a 38-3 lead to lose 41-38 is going to send sportswriters
>scrambling for the record books.
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From mzilka at sbcglobal.net  Sat Oct 21 19:08:07 2006
From: mzilka at sbcglobal.net (Marilyn J Zilka)
Date: Sat Oct 21 19:08:10 2006
Subject: [NU Sports] Roach
Message-ID: <20061022000807.27672.qmail@web81504.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

Roach has a broken ankle and will have surgery Sunday morning---

The OSU game is not a night game - ABC wanted it and so did NU but Ohio State said no


----- Original Message ----
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Sent: Saturday, October 21, 2006 4:48:05 PM
Subject: [NU Sports] Roach


Anyone seen anything about Roach's status?

He wasn't actually taken out on a stretcher; he was driven out on the 
cart, but he was sitting up.

Later, he was back out on the field sitting on a table on the sideline 
with his lower leg and foot heavily bandaged.

The defense may have collapsed in the second half, but you can't blame 
it all on them.  The D did a great job to hold a good Spartan offense 
to 3 points in the first half.  The D also had several takeaways that 
led to scores.

After Bacher threw that interception for a touchback in the third 
quarter we didn't have another first down on our final 5 drives.  No 
first downs the entire 4th quarter, and a total of I believe 15 yards 
of offense.  Throw in a couple of first downs, and MSU wouldn't have 
had the ball as much.

The blocked punt was a total mental breakdown.  We let the clock run 
down too far before we snapped it, while the snapper appeared to be 
doing calisthenics in the middle of the field.  Simply get that punt 
off and we probably would have won the game.

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From jonathanwhodges at gmail.com  Sat Oct 21 20:15:44 2006
From: jonathanwhodges at gmail.com (Jonathan Hodges)
Date: Sat Oct 21 20:15:48 2006
Subject: [NU Sports] You are kidding. Right?
In-Reply-To: <001d01c6f564$f040ef80$c402a8c0@DennisMachine>
References: <001d01c6f564$f040ef80$c402a8c0@DennisMachine>
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1. CJ was just what the doctor ordered.  Unfortunately we lost Rees in the
3rd quarter and it went downhill from there - the MSU DL got in his face and
the running game didn't go much of anywhere (outside of Tyrell's long run).
This was probably the only positive coming out of this game - the offense
finally knows how to move the ball.

2. Our pass rush has been virtually non existent and has hurt - big time.
Stanton had all day to throw to one of the WRs running free in the
secondary.

3. Coaching - NU was well prepared in the first half.  They were completely
out coached in the second.

Credit to MSU for playing for 60 minutes despite their notorious collapses
earlier this year.  The 'Cats looked like they were out of gas half way
through the 3rd quarter.

A quote I heard from someone behind me today when MSU scored a couple of TDs
"this feels like the '95 Miami game."

Jonathan


On 10/21/06, Dennis W. Brandt <tbng@comcast.net> wrote:
>
> Was C. J. Bacher that much better today, or did Michigan State just not
> give a damn for a long while?  It was probably a little bit of the former
> and one whopping amount of the latter.  Once MSU started caring, Bacher
> vanished along with the offensive line.
>   Once again, the pass rush from the defensive line was
> nonexistent.  Someone no doubt will grouse that it was because we only
> rushed three for so long.  What difference did it make?  We rushed three,
> four, five six. . .  Hell, the entire student body could have charged the
> field, and we still would not have sacked Stanton.  WE HAVE NO TALENT ON THE
> DEFENSIVE LINE!  WHEN ARE WE GOING TO GET SOME?  We don't have any great
> cover men in the secondary, but their problems began with the front four.
>
>   Once again - once too DAMN many times - our special teams SUCKED!  Year
> after mournful year we are forced to watch kickoffs go out of bounds, field
> goals get missed, punts get blocked or hardly go anywhere, and kick
> returners go nowhere.  Special teams was strong reason the '95 team
> succeeded, the Miami of Ohio debacle notwithstanding.
>
>   Once again, we blew opportunity after opportunity to put this game away,
> then just stood at the bottom of the mountain once the avalanche started and
> watched it to crash down on us.
>
>   A game that could have made this a worthwhile year has instead probably
> utterly destroyed it and no doubt will have a detrimental effect on
> recruiting.
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From jonathanwhodges at gmail.com  Sat Oct 21 20:20:28 2006
From: jonathanwhodges at gmail.com (Jonathan Hodges)
Date: Sat Oct 21 20:20:32 2006
Subject: [NU Sports] Roach
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References: <20061022000807.27672.qmail@web81504.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
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Anyone seen any update on Rees (who came out in the 3rd quarter, I think)
and Bacher (who was being attended to after the last play of the game)?
Those guys are obviously key to our offense.

It really hurts to see Roach and Heinz sidelined for the rest of the season
(most likely) - those guys are great on and off the field and are a major
part of this year's leadership on the team.

Jonathan

On 10/21/06, Marilyn J Zilka <mzilka@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
>
> Roach has a broken ankle and will have surgery Sunday morning---
>
> The OSU game is not a night game - ABC wanted it and so did NU but Ohio
> State said no
>
>
> ----- Original Message ----
> From: John Labbe <johnl@mac.com>
> To: "nwu-sports@romaine.tssi.com" <nwu-sports@romaine.tssi.com>
> Sent: Saturday, October 21, 2006 4:48:05 PM
> Subject: [NU Sports] Roach
>
>
> Anyone seen anything about Roach's status?
>
> He wasn't actually taken out on a stretcher; he was driven out on the
> cart, but he was sitting up.
>
> Later, he was back out on the field sitting on a table on the sideline
> with his lower leg and foot heavily bandaged.
>
> The defense may have collapsed in the second half, but you can't blame
> it all on them.  The D did a great job to hold a good Spartan offense
> to 3 points in the first half.  The D also had several takeaways that
> led to scores.
>
> After Bacher threw that interception for a touchback in the third
> quarter we didn't have another first down on our final 5 drives.  No
> first downs the entire 4th quarter, and a total of I believe 15 yards
> of offense.  Throw in a couple of first downs, and MSU wouldn't have
> had the ball as much.
>
> The blocked punt was a total mental breakdown.  We let the clock run
> down too far before we snapped it, while the snapper appeared to be
> doing calisthenics in the middle of the field.  Simply get that punt
> off and we probably would have won the game.
>
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From spiritu at northwestern.edu  Sat Oct 21 20:27:31 2006
From: spiritu at northwestern.edu (Jonathan Michael Hawkins)
Date: Sat Oct 21 20:27:41 2006
Subject: [NU Sports] Blocked Punt?
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Can any rulebook mavens explain this hypothetical situation to me?

Team A has 4th and 2.  Ball is set, play clock rolls.  Team A offense 
stays on field until 18 seconds remain on play clock.  Team A makes a 
change and the punt unit comes on, offense comes off.  This is done by the 
time there is 10-12 seconds left on the play clock.  Team B defense comes 
off the field, Team B special teams comes onto the field, in disarray.

Umpire remains standing over the ball, preventing its snap, and preventing 
the offensive line from getting into their final stance, until 3 seconds 
remain on the play clock.  Punter, fearing a penalty, without time to 
survey the defense and check for punt blockers, and without time for his 
line to see a shown block attempt, calls for the snap.  Snap is high, 
punter kicks, kick is blocked, touchdown is scored by Team B.

Game ends with Team B's margin of victory less than 6.

Can the outcome of the game be reviewed by league officials for gross 
incompetence by the officiating staff?

-- 
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spiritu@northwestern.edu
Northwestern University
WCAS '03,  Law '09

From eschoeman at sbcglobal.net  Sat Oct 21 20:27:33 2006
From: eschoeman at sbcglobal.net (Evans Schoeman)
Date: Sat Oct 21 20:27:49 2006
Subject: [NU Sports] Ohio
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Message-ID: <003d01c6f579$43396280$220110ac@OFFICEDESKTOP2>

I haven't seen that the game with OSU is at night.  I had heard that OSU
turned it down, and we'll be playing in our usual 11AM slot.

The Big Ten site has no listings for TV after next week-end.





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To: nwu-sports@tssi.com
Subject: [NU Sports] Ohio

Is there any way the Nov 11th game can be moved back to the daylight hours ?
It plays out as an awful game - Ohio will be something like a 40-point
favorite.  No one will watch outside of Ohio.  We can only HOPE that no one
watches...5 minutes of the GM offense and/or the GC/JB defense, and recruits
will be scrambling to read up on Lehigh and North Dakota State.
 
As it is now, the Sat night game will feature terrible traffic, terrible
parking, awful concessions, cold weather, too many scarlet and gray fans
spread out all over Dyche, and an awful game.  Can we play it at noon, and
hope that the outcome goes largely unnoticed ?
 
I am surprised that ESPN (or whoever might want to televise it) hasn't
ordered the Big Ten to provide a better game for the time slot.
 
Chuck Herron   Tech '85 
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From jonathanwhodges at gmail.com  Sat Oct 21 20:33:24 2006
From: jonathanwhodges at gmail.com (Jonathan Hodges)
Date: Sat Oct 21 20:33:27 2006
Subject: [NU Sports] Blocked Punt?
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No, just like the notorious Oklahoma-Oregon gaffe can't be recalled, despite
the fact that OU's president called for such a thing.  Not that this
"hypothetical" situation would have made that big of a difference, even if
the punt got off, considering "Team A"'s defense that looked helpless during
the entire "hypothetical second half."

And I believe that the punter doesn't actually call for the snap - the
hypothetical #54 on special teams for "Team A" actually calls the snap
count.  And they were right beside the "Team A" bench, who allowed this
entire event unfold before them without doing anything besides watching the
clock tick down.

Jonathan

On 10/21/06, Jonathan Michael Hawkins <spiritu@northwestern.edu> wrote:
>
> Can any rulebook mavens explain this hypothetical situation to me?
>
> Team A has 4th and 2.  Ball is set, play clock rolls.  Team A offense
> stays on field until 18 seconds remain on play clock.  Team A makes a
> change and the punt unit comes on, offense comes off.  This is done by the
> time there is 10-12 seconds left on the play clock.  Team B defense comes
> off the field, Team B special teams comes onto the field, in disarray.
>
> Umpire remains standing over the ball, preventing its snap, and preventing
> the offensive line from getting into their final stance, until 3 seconds
> remain on the play clock.  Punter, fearing a penalty, without time to
> survey the defense and check for punt blockers, and without time for his
> line to see a shown block attempt, calls for the snap.  Snap is high,
> punter kicks, kick is blocked, touchdown is scored by Team B.
>
> Game ends with Team B's margin of victory less than 6.
>
> Can the outcome of the game be reviewed by league officials for gross
> incompetence by the officiating staff?
>
> --
> Jonathan Michael Hawkins
> spiritu@northwestern.edu
> Northwestern University
> WCAS '03,  Law '09
>
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From nolan at romaine.tssi.com  Sat Oct 21 20:51:30 2006
From: nolan at romaine.tssi.com (Mike Nolan)
Date: Sat Oct 21 20:51:31 2006
Subject: [NU Sports] ugliest game ever? (fwd)
Message-ID: <200610220151.k9M1pUvC023116@romaine.tssi.com>

>  Murphy should 
> call a coaches meeting and tell them that no one's job is safe next 
> year, especially the defense and special teams coaches.  Fitzgerald gets 
> a pass for now because of the circumstances surrounding how he became 
> head coach.  

If Murphy is dumb enough to call such a meeting or make such a statement, 
he should be fired! 

The only decision Murphy should be allowed to make is whether or not to 
fire Fitz.  

Let Fitz decide who he wants his coaches to be, in consultation with Murphy,
but it should be Fitz's call.  There obviously wasn't time to make any 
adjustments before this season, and whether or not there are any changes
after the season should be Fitz's call.  The success or failure of Fitz's
tenure as coach will depend largely on his choices for assistant coaches.

Thankfully, none of us will have any impact on any of those decisions, 
and none of the negativity boiling over after today's game should have 
any impact on recruiting, either.   (Recruits DO read the fan boards, but 
most of them are smart enough to know that most fans know very little about 
how football is played.) 

FWIW, I've already heard two 'talking heads' on TV say that Smith is toast
at the end of the season despite today's record-breaking game.  We'll see.
--
Mike Nolan

From johnadeg at bellatlantic.net  Sat Oct 21 21:23:29 2006
From: johnadeg at bellatlantic.net (John A. DeGroat)
Date: Sat Oct 21 21:23:34 2006
Subject: [NU Sports] ugliest game ever? (fwd)
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Murph should take the load off of Fitzgerald at this time that's why 
Murphy should call such a meeting, not Fitz.  Murph should also be 
running his rolodex to find assistant coaches; maybe the jucos have some 
up and coming assistants.  If assistant coaches don't want to work for a 
coach who is substantially younger, he ought to adopt the philosophy of 
a friend of mine who worked for IBM in Endicott.  IBM liked to run 
marketing guys through the manufacturing operations to give them a sense 
of what goes on when they get an order.  My friend had a policy of never 
hiring someone coming in that way who was making less money than he 
was.  He was looking for people who saw going through manufacturing as a 
career enhancer.  Same concept here.  NU will have to pay more than the 
going rate to get some quality assistants that don't get hung up in 
their underwear worrying about working for a head coach that may be 
substantially younger than they are.  The other alternative is to sit by 
and watch Fitz drown because of the lousy coaches that he inherited.

John DeGroat

Mike Nolan wrote:

>> Murphy should 
>>call a coaches meeting and tell them that no one's job is safe next 
>>year, especially the defense and special teams coaches.  Fitzgerald gets 
>>a pass for now because of the circumstances surrounding how he became 
>>head coach.  
>>    
>>
>
>If Murphy is dumb enough to call such a meeting or make such a statement, 
>he should be fired! 
>
>The only decision Murphy should be allowed to make is whether or not to 
>fire Fitz.  
>
>Let Fitz decide who he wants his coaches to be, in consultation with Murphy,
>but it should be Fitz's call.  There obviously wasn't time to make any 
>adjustments before this season, and whether or not there are any changes
>after the season should be Fitz's call.  The success or failure of Fitz's
>tenure as coach will depend largely on his choices for assistant coaches.
>
>Thankfully, none of us will have any impact on any of those decisions, 
>and none of the negativity boiling over after today's game should have 
>any impact on recruiting, either.   (Recruits DO read the fan boards, but 
>most of them are smart enough to know that most fans know very little about 
>how football is played.) 
>
>FWIW, I've already heard two 'talking heads' on TV say that Smith is toast
>at the end of the season despite today's record-breaking game.  We'll see.
>--
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From yevb0 at alumni.northwestern.edu  Sat Oct 21 21:35:28 2006
From: yevb0 at alumni.northwestern.edu (Evan Bradley)
Date: Sat Oct 21 21:36:06 2006
Subject: [NU Sports] Oh oh
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Did I also hear correctly (I was listening on WGN, no tv here in DC)
near the end of the game that we had Sutton in on returns?

On 10/21/06, cherron604@aol.com <cherron604@aol.com> wrote:
> I was particularly disturbed by a post-game comment in the locker room, something like 'we really missed Nick Roach out there'...
>
> Then DON'T send him out on punt coverage, especially when so many returns feature clips and illegal blocks
>
> You're just asking for trouble when you do that
>
> (Sorry for so many e-mails...still steaming after the drive home from Dyche...)
>
> Chuck Herron   Tech '85
>
>
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> I was thinking the same thing, Chuck.  Glad you said it, although since Fitz coaches the Special Teams, if memory serves, it looks like the arrow is pointing at the HC.
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From nolan at romaine.tssi.com  Sat Oct 21 21:40:49 2006
From: nolan at romaine.tssi.com (Mike Nolan)
Date: Sat Oct 21 21:40:52 2006
Subject: [NU Sports] ugliest game ever? (fwd)
Message-ID: <200610220240.k9M2ene4025926@romaine.tssi.com>

> Murph should take the load off of Fitzgerald at this time that's why 
> Murphy should call such a meeting, not Fitz.  

And while he's at it, he should fire Fitz and appoint himself the head
coach, or maybe just take pliers and emasculate Fitz, because that's what
such a move would do to Fitz's coaching career at NU.

The HEAD COACH has to be in charge of the program, including decisions about
assistant coaches, otherwise he's a head coach in name only.  

Name me ONE successful program where the AD calls the shots in the football 
program (unless he's also the head football coach.)
--
Mike Nolan

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From: neonrye at aol.com (neonrye@aol.com)
Date: Sat Oct 21 22:36:17 2006
Subject: [NU Sports] Oh oh
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Yes, Tyrell was in at the end, trying to run back the final kickoff.  Not sure about any others.
 
Paul Levinson 
 
 
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Did I also hear correctly (I was listening on WGN, no tv here in DC) 
near the end of the game that we had Sutton in on returns? 
 
On 10/21/06, cherron604@aol.com <cherron604@aol.com> wrote: 
> I was particularly disturbed by a post-game comment in the locker room, something like 'we really missed Nick Roach out there'... 
> 
> Then DON'T send him out on punt coverage, especially when so many returns feature clips and illegal blocks 
> 
> You're just asking for trouble when you do that 
> 
> (Sorry for so many e-mails...still steaming after the drive home from Dyche...) 
> 
> Chuck Herron Tech '85 
> 
> 
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> Sent: Sat, 21 Oct 2006 4:03 PM 
> Subject: Re: [NU Sports] Oh oh 
> 
> 
> I was thinking the same thing, Chuck. Glad you said it, although since Fitz coaches the Special Teams, if memory serves, it looks like the arrow is pointing at the HC. 
> 
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From bwdolphin146 at yahoo.com  Sat Oct 21 22:57:27 2006
From: bwdolphin146 at yahoo.com (Brad Wilson)
Date: Sat Oct 21 22:57:31 2006
Subject: [NU Sports] what next?
Message-ID: <20061022035727.67905.qmail@web51315.mail.yahoo.com>

... I find myself in the less-harsh camp, after a
loss, but I must agree with Dennis and Chuck. An utter
disgrace. I will never be ashamed of our young men who
play the game (unless their behavior is
unsportsmanlike or classless) but today I am close to
being ashamed of the men who "lead" them. 

Now: where do we go from here? 

I cannot imagine a more daunting situation -- coming
off a horrid, emotionally draining collapse with road
games at Ann Arbor and Iowa City followed by a trip to
Columbus. (I am going to assume Bacher is OK -- let's
hope so.) I cringe at the thought of what is to come.
Imagine how tough those games would be even coming off
a rousing win -- and now ... 

I would say this: try and remember that what you're
doing on offense is to nuture confidence and make
Bacher feel like he's going to be a good Big Ten QB.
So try and keep him in good situations (while trying
to win, of course). It does appear that with the
passing game better, running appears possible, so make
every effort to get Sutton going. Use Lane and
Peterman more. Perhaps start to play kids who figure
in the future -- i.e. next season when the schedule
becomes easier.

On defense -- for God's sake, attack. I don't care if
big plays get made every now and then. Attack, attack,
attack. Scrap the sit-back-and-watch-us-lose
wait-and-see defense; since the odds are heavily
against us, what do we have to lose? Blitz safeties
and corners, try stunts and tricks, keep attacking.
I'd rather go down swinging than passively taking
haymakers in the face.

Special teams -- What, don't get punts blocked? Make
field goals? Don't let kickoffs die at the 1? In
short, get a clue!!!! Anything else?

Coaches: I think this is a real test for Fitzgerald.
If his strengths are motivation, enthusiasm and
personality management, as have been said by many, we
will see; somehow he has to get the 'Cats off the mat
and back ready to play. If he can do that, it will be
a very good sign. But if the next three games are
62-3, 38-7 and 55-6, well, I wonder ... 

Brad Wilson







 

 

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From nolan at romaine.tssi.com  Sat Oct 21 23:33:29 2006
From: nolan at romaine.tssi.com (Mike Nolan)
Date: Sat Oct 21 23:33:34 2006
Subject: [NU Sports] Oh oh (fwd)
Message-ID: <200610220433.k9M4XTEN031378@romaine.tssi.com>

> Yes, Tyrell was in at the end, trying to run back the final kickoff.  Not sure about any others.

And if he'd succeeded, it would have been a brilliant move.  However, you
can probably can count on one hand the number of times last second 
desperation plays work.  Let's see, the Stanford Band play, Hail Flutie
Colorado vs Michigan, what else?  (Victory Right in Minnesota a few years 
ago was different, the score was tied at the time.)

I think the decision to have Roach in on punt coverage was valid, even if 
that's when he got injured.

Watch Virginia Tech games, they have plenty of starters on special teams.
And I think Beamer Ball had its 100th blocked kick earlier this season.

Yeah, there's risk, but as I recall we had a kicker hurt his knee just 
jumping up and down at midfield a few years ago.  

Injuries will happen, the coaches make the personnel decisions they think 
will give the team the best chance to win, and there are always risks 
involved.  

If they work, the coach doesn't always get the credit, but if they don't
work, the coach always gets the blame,  That's why the coach makes more than
the guys flipping burgers under the stands.
--
Mike Nolan

From MarkL71444 at aol.com  Sat Oct 21 23:47:49 2006
From: MarkL71444 at aol.com (MarkL71444@aol.com)
Date: Sat Oct 21 23:47:58 2006
Subject: [NU Sports] Oh oh (fwd)
Message-ID: <304.112238ad.326c51f5@aol.com>

As I recall, Sutton was back on kickoffs that NU felt might be onsides  kicks 
several times in the second half.   Kind of strange since he was  back with 
one other return man while the other nine guys were up defending the  onside 
kick so whatever returns he might have had would involve no blockers and  a 
whole bunch of fellas in green and white heading his direction looking to  inflict 
pain.
 
I'm not clear on why we felt there would be onsides kicks since MSU clearly  
had momentum and plenty of time and we were doing nothing.  For some reason  
MSU initially continued to kick the ball into the end zone, but eventually  
John L. figured out that we had everyone up and they simply kicked the ball to  
the goal line over our onside kick defense, we returned the ball to the nine or 
 so, and had lousy field position resulting in good field position for MSU 
after  our three and out and another MSU score.
 
I do appreciate that our offense appeared to be much more imaginative and  
aggressive then they have been all season (at least for 2.5 quarters anyway),  
but I'm thinking that after MSU tied the game at 38, I would consider playing  
for overtime and take my chances instead of throwing that first down pass that 
 was picked.
 
I've been attending NU games regularly for about 35 years and I've never  
seen anything like this.  I realize we had some injuries, but fer cryin'  out 
loud, 35 points?
 
Mark
 
 
From sjtruog at yahoo.com  Sun Oct 22 02:39:56 2006
From: sjtruog at yahoo.com (SjT (Stephen J. Truog))
Date: Sun Oct 22 02:39:58 2006
Subject: [NU Sports] WILDCAT WRAP: MSU 41, NU 38
Message-ID: <20061022073956.1293.qmail@web52901.mail.yahoo.com>

Former Northwestern coach Randy Walker used to have a
favorite slogan: finish. Walker?s Wildcat teams
rallied around that mantra again and again, coming
from behind to win games over countless Big Ten foes
that thought they had the Cats beaten. How sad that
when the Wildcats sprinted to a unseen humongous lead
on Saturday against Michigan State that the NU players
and coaches couldn?t follow their departed mentor?s
words and finish the job.

I guess what goes around comes around and after
witnessing all those last-second rallies by the Cats
during the years ? including a rather miraculous 27-26
win over Sparty in 2001 ? it was time for the Evanston
faithful to experience the other side of the coin. It
was a reversal of fortune for MSU as well, who let a
huge lead against Notre Dame slip away earlier this
year at home but became the first division I-A team to
rally from a 35-point deficit against NU on Saturday,
scoring 38 unanswered second-half points to turn a
38-3 hole into a 41-38 triumph. So maybe there was
some karma coming around to bite the Cats in the rear,
but did it have to happen on homecoming?

Blowing a 38-3 third-quarter lead in front of the
alumni? Inexcusable. Heartbreaking. Devastating. And
as the stunned homecoming crowd watched the events
unfold on Saturday, they all seemed to have the same
question: why go to a prevent defense in the middle of
the third quarter?

After defending the D all season and calling for the
offensive playbook to be opened, the trend of
opposites continued Saturday as the Wildcat offense
exploded and looked very much like the machine of last
year while this loss falls squarely on the defensive
players and coaches.

And the kicker is you never even saw this coming at
halftime 
 or five minutes into the third quarter for
that matter. The tale of two halves was a dream for NU
fans in the first but a nightmare in the second. Give
Michigan State credit for defying their rep and not
quitting 
 but this was also a tale of collapse on a
record scale by the Cats. MSU made some plays, but it
was more about the plays the Cats didn?t make.

The vultures were circling in the first half though.
Well, maybe they were seagulls, but it was still
looking like an open when a couple dozen birds began
circling around head coach John L. Smith and the MSU
sideline in the second quarter. Sparty could do
nothing right, failing to move the ball, surrendering
huge chunks of yardage on D and down 24-3. The fans
spelled out ?FIRE JOHN L? and it looked very much like
the MSU team folks had come to expect recently,
phoning it in ? the big question was whether Smith
would even make the trip back on the team bus or be
fired at halftime.

The story on the opposite sideline was anything but
what fans had come to expect this season. What a
difference a quarterback makes to this offense!
Sophomore C.J. Bacher was back from injury and played
a near flawless first half ? hitting the slant,
throwing a deep ball or two, standing in the pocket to
take a big hit but deliver the ball. It all opened the
running lanes up by keeping defenses honest and made
the NU offense into something that resembled what
Brett Basanez directed the last few years in Evanston.
 The receivers, especially Shaun Herbert and Ross
Lane, really seemed to appreciate being involved in
the offense again and made some nice plays. The
Wildcats scored on their first four possessions,
driving 71, 74 and 88 yards for touchdowns and adding
a field goal. About the only thing that went wrong was
failing to get the touchdown in the red zone at the
end of the half and then missing the field goal to let
MSU off the hook trailing only 24-3 in a half where ?
aside from MSU?s initial series and field goal ? they
were completely and utterly dominated by Northwestern.

The second half began to look like more of the same. A
3-and-out by NU and a punt return to change the game
for MSU blew apart in one ?typical Sparty? play when
wet grass tackled the punt returner yards from the end
zone and it was all for naught anyway because Sparty
roughed the punter. A couple plays later (including a
nifty tipped pass for big yardage by Eric Peterman),
NU seized their chance and was in the end zone and it
was 31-3. The one downside of the punt play was that
defensive leader Nick Roach was taken off the field
with a broken leg. It didn?t seem like it could hurt
us at the time, but would play a role later as Roach?s
leadership and hustle were sorely missed.

Marquis Cole intercepted MSU on the next series and
set up another TD pass for Herbert and it was 38-3
Wildcats with 9:54 remaining. Midway through the
third, it was still 38-3 when everything came apart.
Senior MSU quarterback Drew Stanton took advantage of
soft coverage to nickel-and-dime down the field for a
score to make it 38-10 with 7:03 left in the third.
Another zip drive down the field after an NU 3-and-out
made it 38-17 with 2:47 to go in the third and this is
when the first inkling of the impending disaster came.
Yes, the offense got a bit conservative ? but it was
still working, as evidenced by Tyrell Sutton?s burst
up the middle for 64 yards the next series to put the
Cats in the red zone. But two NU receivers collided on
Bacher?s pass to the end zone (and Bacher was also
knicked) and a chance for a 45-17 lead slipped away.

The defense showed signs of the collapse with a
questionable late hit on Stanton that put the QB out a
couple series, but fired up the Spartans. Brendon
Smith baited Stanton?s replacement into a pick to calm
fears for awhile, but the offense struggled all day on
3rd and short and after failing to pick up a first
down after the pickoff, a high snap on the Wildcat
punt led to a block and return that made the score
38-24 with 11:22 remaining in the fourth and the Green
and White were starting to believe. 

A poor kick return decision had the Cats starting
their next possession inside the 10 and after failing
to generate a first, it was another punt ? this time
from the end zone. Stanton returned from the injury to
zip down the field against more soft defense to score
on a run with 7:54 to go, making it 38-31. With less
than 7 minutes to go, the Cats again failed to convert
a 3rd and short and Stanton and the Spartans moved
with ease downfield to score with 3:43 remaining.

The collapse was complete when a poor return started
the Cats deep and Bacher?s deep throw ? more like a
loft and nothing like the crisp slants he had been
throwing ? was picked off. MSU converted their key 3rd
and short, ran down the clock and kicked the chip shot
field goal with seconds left to complete the new
record for NCAA I-A comeback. The green faithful who
remained in the stands in Evanston didn?t even care
that this might allow John L. Smith to keep his job
and celebrated the amazing win with their team (after
the Spartans tried to dance at midfield but were
quickly redirected to their fans by the coaches ?
smart move after previous incidents with MSU and
midfield at Notre Dame and vs. Illinois).

Northwestern had won virtually every aspect of the
game except the final score. It was a game they
dominated and should have easily won, but forgot to
finish. Unlike last week, this one is squarely on
defensive coordinator Colby?s shoulders. Yes, the
offense didn?t do much late ? but there?s no way you
should lose when you win the turnover battle, win time
of possession and have a 35-point lead with a quarter
and a half remaining. We played soft instead of
playing to win and a senior quarterback like Stanton
(and even their backup when Stanton was hurt for a
bit) just picked the defense apart. For most teams,
being up by 35 means its time to pin the ears back and
blitz a bit without worrying about the run ? and MSU
only had 91 net yards rushing. But we played not to
lose and wound up with one of the more heartbreaking
defeats in recent NU memory, especially after the day
began with so much promise.

GAME BALLS
* C.J. Bacher. We have our quarterback! And the good
news is that Bacher will be around for a couple more
years and should really grow into the offensive leader
role the last month of the season. Bacher essentially
did more in one half of football passing than NU had
done in the first six games through the air. Four TD
passes, staying in to take the hit while delivering
his first TD, running when proper 
 he was a lot of
fun to watch. He went a bit cold at the end, but it
shouldn?t have mattered. The running game was working
and we had a huge lead ? maybe a few more slants
instead of deep chucks late, but that?s not CJ?s
fault.
* Tyrell Sutton. Even when he has a hurting
collarbone, this kid is special and a joy to watch. We
gave Sutton 21 carries and he responded with 171 yards
and an 8.1 average per play ? when the opposing D is
kept honest by a good quarterback, Sutton can really
put up some big numbers.
* Ross Lane. Herbert and Peterman had good games as
well, but Lane was really the catalyst on the early
drives and with Herbert?s hands and Lane?s height, we
had a nice 1-2 punch at wideout and Bacher knew how to
use it.

THINGS TO WORK ON
* FINISH. No excuse for blowing a 35-point lead.
Especially when we?ve seen other teams do it against
our O in the past. You have to finish your foe off.
* Defensive play calling. The offense opened the book
this week and showed what can happen when you take
chances. The D sat on a lead and hoped prevent would
be enough and it was a nightmare. Something?s gotta
change here.
* Special teams. A missed field goal. A blocked punt.
A couple poor kickoff returns to start us off in bad
field position. Bad snaps all around. Win this portion
of the game and we win despite a soft D.

AROUND THE LEAGUE
* Ohio State and Michigan are now clear for a mammoth
November showdown in the Shoe between unbeaten #1 and
#2 barring a major, MAJOR upset. It will be
interesting to see if the game is close and other
breaks happen if they meet again in Arizona in January
for all the marbles.
* Another solid win by Wisconsin, who is quietly 7-1.
The way the cheeseheads travel to support their team,
it?s going to be hard for a BCS bowl to ignore them if
they finish 11-1. Where?s the love from the polls
though?
* Not a great win over North Dakota State for
Minnesota ? Sparty showed fight but the Gophers appear
to have packed it in for the season.
* It wasn?t pretty, but Penn State avoided a hangover
loss after that tough defeat to Michigan to move to
5-3. They visit Camp Randall in a couple weeks, which
could be a huge game for the Florida bowls to watch.

Such an awesome start, such a horrible finish.
Hopefully the Cats aren?t as devastated as the fans
because the next three games are brutal, but we can do
a lot to build toward next year by working around
Bacher being our man at quarterback and we certainly
have enough to beat Illinois. Heck, if the defense had
been able to hold on to a 35-point lead, we?d be
asking how many games we could have won this year with
a healthy Bacher (at least two, IMO). But instead
we?re left with homecoming horror and trying to pick
up the pieces from an epic choke by a team known for
amazing comebacks 
 to a team known more for chokes
and packing it in. Maybe we entered a bizarre would
this week. Whatever it is, it just plain old stinks.

GO CATS!!!
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From sjtruog at yahoo.com  Sun Oct 22 03:21:36 2006
From: sjtruog at yahoo.com (SjT (Stephen J. Truog))
Date: Sun Oct 22 03:21:38 2006
Subject: [NU Sports] Late-night replies ...
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Tyrell was in on a couple returns.

I remember posts in previous weeks calling for special
teams to be taken more seriously and for starters to
be playing on special teams to show that they were
important.

Roach's injury was one of those freak things that
could have happened on a running plan on 2nd down or
on a kickoff return. Can't blame the fact that he's on
special teams, IMO.

As for the rest of the frustration - I feel it. This
one just plain old sucked. However, remember that
we've been on the other side of that scenario (maybe
not 35 points - but Iowa '05, Michigan '00, Wisconsin
'00, etc. were all pretty darn improbable) ... so we
were due for one of these. Doesn't excuse our
defensive play calling or make it better, just an
observation.

As for the punt/ref thing ... I dunno what the college
rule is, but I know that the NFL has been paying
particular attention recently to the "fair
substitution" and how if one team substitutes
no-huddle, the D gets a chance to counter sub without
a penalty. Maybe it's something with that???

As for CJ - yes, the real deal. We didn't really give
him a chance to continue that late - we called some
deep passes but none of those slants. But the run
focus was working with Sutton's burst. CJ was awesome
in the first quarter in opening up our O and keeping
the D honest, setting up Sutton's big day.

Oh well - sucky day, sucky flight back with a load of
crying kids on the flight and parents who haven't a
clue ... but that 38-3 score just keeps gnawing at me.
This one's gonna hurt for awhile and the next three
weeks are brutal and we had a lot of big injuries.
Dang - really could have used that nice homecoming win
to give us something to hold on to until the Illini.
38-3. UGH!

GO CATS!!!
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From rstetson at capps-assoc.com  Sun Oct 22 07:27:18 2006
From: rstetson at capps-assoc.com (Roy Lamberton)
Date: Sun Oct 22 07:27:12 2006
Subject: [NU Sports] ugliest game ever? (fwd)
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When did the George Steinbrenner school of management take over in Evanston?

Or are many of you trying to take a page from the Redskins ownership, or even
the Marlins?

I know there are a few of you who seem to actually hate some of our coaches and
long for the days of Barnett and a few trusted assistants who actually had 2
good years. Get over it, those guys are not coming back to Evanston, even if
Fitz cleans house in December.

NU has only recently been able to attract the kind of defensive linemen that can
put pressure on a QB. Last year we had Barry Cofield and a bunch of frosh, and
fans were griping that there was no pass rush. The year before we had a one
armed Luis Castillo and Barry C, and a DE with both a bad ankle, and an
attitude.

Its an old reality in pass defense - you shut down the pass by getting a pass
rush, because good fast receivers will eventually get open.

Drew Stanton showed what an experienced QB can do, even if he doesn't have the 3
seconds to set up and throw. He went to the 3rd and 4th receivers on plays and
really picked on the one sub on the defense Chris Malleo, a hard hitting
linebacker who is usually 3rd behind Roach as the Will. Eddie Simpson, who
normally is the pass coverage guy on the weak side is also injured.

The 3-4 defense, which is actually a 6-2 when the linebackers come from the
corners is usually good at getting that pressure on the QB. Until Roach got
hurt, it sure looked like it was working.

Now, about firing everyone.

Unless NU is able to attract a defensive guru, changing the entire defensive
staff will only give us a very bad defense as the kids adjust to an entirely new
way of playing.

And Mike's comment about undercutting a head coach is dead on. 

Of course some of you seem to have a death wish - lets go out and find another
Gary Barnett, who will ignore the gambling and other problems, have a good year
and take the next job that comes along.

I'd rather do it one play at a time, one game at a time, follow the plan...
That's how I do it...

rsl

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> -----Original Message-----
> From: nwu-sports-bounces@tssi.com 
> [mailto:nwu-sports-bounces@tssi.com] On Behalf Of John A. DeGroat
> Sent: Saturday, October 21, 2006 10:23 PM
> To: Mike Nolan
> Cc: nwu-sports@romaine.tssi.com
> Subject: Re: [NU Sports] ugliest game ever? (fwd)
> 
> 
> Murph should take the load off of Fitzgerald at this time that's why 
> Murphy should call such a meeting, not Fitz.  Murph should also be 
> running his rolodex to find assistant coaches; maybe the 
> jucos have some 
> up and coming assistants.  


From tbng at comcast.net  Sun Oct 22 07:38:53 2006
From: tbng at comcast.net (Dennis W. Brandt)
Date: Sun Oct 22 07:39:24 2006
Subject: [NU Sports] I wonder
Message-ID: <005b01c6f5d7$08d94bb0$c402a8c0@DennisMachine>

Based on some comments from other posters, I wonder: .

1. Why Fitz didn't just fire all the assistant coaches the day of his hire, immediately get new ones in time for training camp, or just coach the whole team all by himself.
2. Why anyone would think that Murphy calling a meeting to show up Fitz and the entire coaching staff could possibly think that loving experience would "take the load off" Fitz.  To save time, why not just go into the post-game locker room and scream, "Loser!" in Fitz's face.
3. If Nick Roach would have put a big hit on the punt returner, knocked the ball loose, and the Cats had scored would anyone be griping about his presence on the return team.  I believe we might be reading, "It's about time we took special teams seriously."
4. Why do I seem to be the only person (based on previous posts on this topic) who recognizes that Michigan State fell way behind because they didn't give a damn and played like it.  That is why the halftime commentators said, "Larry Smith has lost his team."  He found them temporarily - until the next MSU debacle.
5. Why an entire team collapses just because the starting center gets hurt.  (See 6 below.)
6. How come so many refuse to admit the truth that our football problems forever have stemmed from a paucity of athletic talent.  If we don't play perfectly for 60 minutes, we can't win.  While talent has improved from the hellish days of yesteryear, a much-coveted football player at Northwestern is still pretty much the Lone Ranger on campus, and political correctness obviates the presence of a faithful Indian companion who can pass rush.  MSU won because their talent is much better up and down the line.  Give talent enough time, and the juices will begin to flow sufficiently to overcome a rotten attitude.  It did.
7. Why it is that we blow a 35-point lead with only 25 minutes of football remaining, and some bring up a referee's handling of a punt.  (I'm amazed no one mentioned the probably bogus late hit call on Cory Wooten even though it made no difference in the game, thanks to a subsequent interception.)  The horrible specifics of disintegration are irrelevant when a team is in a total state of collapse.  If "A" doesn't take place, "B" will.
8. Why, after seeing that missed field goal at the end of the first half, were the first words out of my mouth, "We are going to lose this game."  Making that field goal would likely have done no good (MSU would have just scored a TD at the end), but making that one and another instead of suffering that interception in the endzone, would have.  (The interception was hardly Sutton's fault.  Just one of those things:  a good hit at the right time and that damn bad bounce into the defender's hands.)

Assisting in recruiting?  Now that's something that Murphy can - and probably does- do.
From Hakirsch at aol.com  Sun Oct 22 10:01:47 2006
From: Hakirsch at aol.com (Hakirsch@aol.com)
Date: Sun Oct 22 10:01:54 2006
Subject: [NU Sports] For What It is Worth
Message-ID: <3af.80c2fa6.326ce1db@aol.com>

This is not an excuse for yesterday nor  for the dismal season, but just 
wanted to list the W-L records of  some of our academic competitors. Even though 
it can be done, it is obviously very difficult  to get enough top student 
athletes to have a good football program.

Vandy  3-5
Stanford 0-8
Duke 0-7

As an aside UNH lost to Northeastern yesterday--ugh !

Harry
From mlinhardt at netzero.net  Sun Oct 22 12:46:10 2006
From: mlinhardt at netzero.net (mlinhardt@netzero.net)
Date: Sun Oct 22 12:47:56 2006
Subject: [NU Sports] Bright side...
Message-ID: <20061022.104706.6134.1084504@webmail06.nyc.untd.com>

We(Maureen and I) actually came out of this weeks game more optimistic 
about the future.

For the past 3 games prior to this Saturday we have had NO offense.  
This week we found an offense that includes passing, running, and 
scoring.

We all knew our defense had issues last year and this year they have 
played a little better, but are still very, very weak.

Ditto with the special teams.

I think we are really hosed for the next three weeks, but if we can 
avoid any more injuries I am optimistic about the Ill-whine-i game and 
next season.



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From johnadeg at bellatlantic.net  Sun Oct 22 13:48:42 2006
From: johnadeg at bellatlantic.net (John A. DeGroat)
Date: Sun Oct 22 13:48:49 2006
Subject: [NU Sports] ugliest game ever? (fwd)
In-Reply-To: <001501c6f5d5$6a8f4050$6401a8c0@DAVIDXP>
References: <001501c6f5d5$6a8f4050$6401a8c0@DAVIDXP>
Message-ID: <453BBD0A.3030001@bellatlantic.net>

Fitzgerald didn't hire these guys, he inherited them so why should he 
stuck with coaches that have had the worst defense in Division I-A for 
the past several years? makes no sense to me.

John DeGroat

Roy Lamberton wrote:

>When did the George Steinbrenner school of management take over in Evanston?
>
>Or are many of you trying to take a page from the Redskins ownership, or even
>the Marlins?
>
>I know there are a few of you who seem to actually hate some of our coaches and
>long for the days of Barnett and a few trusted assistants who actually had 2
>good years. Get over it, those guys are not coming back to Evanston, even if
>Fitz cleans house in December.
>
>NU has only recently been able to attract the kind of defensive linemen that can
>put pressure on a QB. Last year we had Barry Cofield and a bunch of frosh, and
>fans were griping that there was no pass rush. The year before we had a one
>armed Luis Castillo and Barry C, and a DE with both a bad ankle, and an
>attitude.
>
>Its an old reality in pass defense - you shut down the pass by getting a pass
>rush, because good fast receivers will eventually get open.
>
>Drew Stanton showed what an experienced QB can do, even if he doesn't have the 3
>seconds to set up and throw. He went to the 3rd and 4th receivers on plays and
>really picked on the one sub on the defense Chris Malleo, a hard hitting
>linebacker who is usually 3rd behind Roach as the Will. Eddie Simpson, who
>normally is the pass coverage guy on the weak side is also injured.
>
>The 3-4 defense, which is actually a 6-2 when the linebackers come from the
>corners is usually good at getting that pressure on the QB. Until Roach got
>hurt, it sure looked like it was working.
>
>Now, about firing everyone.
>
>Unless NU is able to attract a defensive guru, changing the entire defensive
>staff will only give us a very bad defense as the kids adjust to an entirely new
>way of playing.
>
>And Mike's comment about undercutting a head coach is dead on. 
>
>Of course some of you seem to have a death wish - lets go out and find another
>Gary Barnett, who will ignore the gambling and other problems, have a good year
>and take the next job that comes along.
>
>I'd rather do it one play at a time, one game at a time, follow the plan...
>That's how I do it...
>
>rsl
>
>++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
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>Computer Applications & Support Associates
>and Publisher of Purple Reign, 
>The Scout.com Northwestern University Site
>(http://www.purplewildcats.com)
>AIM Handle: CoachRoy74
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>  
>
>>-----Original Message-----
>>From: nwu-sports-bounces@tssi.com 
>>[mailto:nwu-sports-bounces@tssi.com] On Behalf Of John A. DeGroat
>>Sent: Saturday, October 21, 2006 10:23 PM
>>To: Mike Nolan
>>Cc: nwu-sports@romaine.tssi.com
>>Subject: Re: [NU Sports] ugliest game ever? (fwd)
>>
>>
>>Murph should take the load off of Fitzgerald at this time that's why 
>>Murphy should call such a meeting, not Fitz.  Murph should also be 
>>running his rolodex to find assistant coaches; maybe the 
>>jucos have some 
>>up and coming assistants.  
>>    
>>
>
>
>
>  
>
From johnadeg at bellatlantic.net  Sun Oct 22 13:52:13 2006
From: johnadeg at bellatlantic.net (John A. DeGroat)
Date: Sun Oct 22 13:52:29 2006
Subject: [NU Sports] For What It is Worth
In-Reply-To: <3af.80c2fa6.326ce1db@aol.com>
References: <3af.80c2fa6.326ce1db@aol.com>
Message-ID: <453BBDDD.2030806@bellatlantic.net>

That's the same old excuse we hear when things go sour.  That thinking 
is why some thought that NU should join the Ivy League.

John DeGroat

Hakirsch@aol.com wrote:

>This is not an excuse for yesterday nor  for the dismal season, but just 
>wanted to list the W-L records of  some of our academic competitors. Even though 
>it can be done, it is obviously very difficult  to get enough top student 
>athletes to have a good football program.
>
>Vandy  3-5
>Stanford 0-8
>Duke 0-7
>
>As an aside UNH lost to Northeastern yesterday--ugh !
>
>Harry
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From johnadeg at bellatlantic.net  Sun Oct 22 13:55:24 2006
From: johnadeg at bellatlantic.net (John A. DeGroat)
Date: Sun Oct 22 13:55:34 2006
Subject: [NU Sports] Bright side...
In-Reply-To: <20061022.104706.6134.1084504@webmail06.nyc.untd.com>
References: <20061022.104706.6134.1084504@webmail06.nyc.untd.com>
Message-ID: <453BBE9C.10707@bellatlantic.net>

Anyone who saw the Illinois - Penn State game knows that Illinois is on 
the way back and that given what this year has been like, NU will be 
lucky to beat Illinois.   If we don't we'll have another 0 win Big Ten 
season like in the bad old days.

John DeGroat

mlinhardt@netzero.net wrote:

>We(Maureen and I) actually came out of this weeks game more optimistic 
>about the future.
>
>For the past 3 games prior to this Saturday we have had NO offense.  
>This week we found an offense that includes passing, running, and 
>scoring.
>
>We all knew our defense had issues last year and this year they have 
>played a little better, but are still very, very weak.
>
>Ditto with the special teams.
>
>I think we are really hosed for the next three weeks, but if we can 
>avoid any more injuries I am optimistic about the Ill-whine-i game and 
>next season.
>
>
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From sjtruog at yahoo.com  Sun Oct 22 14:13:06 2006
From: sjtruog at yahoo.com (SjT (Stephen J. Truog))
Date: Sun Oct 22 14:13:10 2006
Subject: [NU Sports] I wonder
In-Reply-To: <005b01c6f5d7$08d94bb0$c402a8c0@DennisMachine>
Message-ID: <20061022191306.47731.qmail@web52905.mail.yahoo.com>

> Based on some comments from other posters, I wonder:

> 1. Why Fitz didn't just fire all the assistant
> coaches the day of his hire, immediately get new
> ones in time for training camp, or just coach the
> whole team all by himself.

:) - Well, I think the reason the heat is really
falling on the coordinators is because Fitz made it
clear when he came in that he'd let his OC and DC run
their show. Also, I think everyone realizes the
unenviable position they all were in and wants to give
Fitz some slack. But he will be under pressure to
become more involved if these results continue.

McGee opened up the book this week, tried to fix the
problem and it led to some nice results. We want to
see Colby show he is trying something to fix the D as
well.

> 4. Why do I seem to be the only person (based on
> previous posts on this topic) who recognizes that
> Michigan State fell way behind because they didn't
> give a damn and played like it.  That is why the
> halftime commentators said, "Larry Smith has lost
> his team."  He found them temporarily - until the
> next MSU debacle.

I just don't believe that's the case. MSU may have
"quit" a bit on offense with the dropped passes, but
our big chunks of yardage in the first half were not
because MSU was allowing it. All year, we had been a
player away from exploding on O - the QB position.
Having a QB who can hit the outs, slants and keep a
defense honest made all the difference. The receivers
ran their routes knowing CJ would stay in the pocket
and deliver. The running lanes opened because 9
defenders weren't in the box anymore.

We went away from that in the final quarter and a half
to try and take up more clock. Yeah, it's a bit of a
"prevent offense" but it's the best way to burn clock
with a 35-point lead. Plus, we still had the big run
by Sutton we failed to convert and two 3rd and shorts
that we failed to convert, so it's not like the
conservative play calling killed the O as much as poor
execution (more on the O-line than CJ). By the time we
needed CJ again, he was out of rhythm and cold.

> 6. How come so many refuse to admit the truth that
> our football problems forever have stemmed from a
> paucity of athletic talent.  If we don't play

I think we all know that we don't have the talent of
other teams - it's why we're vulnerable to lose games
against lowly nonconference foes in the same year as
we topple top 20 powers. There are no sure wins for
NU, but we usually overcome that with team play,
coaching and heart. I dunno if I can remember NU being
up by so much in the second half since the 2000
Illinois game -- we just didn't finish and played too
cautiously.

We don't have to play a perfect 60 minutes, but we do
have to play hard FOR a full 60 minutes. We forgot
that on Saturday.

> 7. Why it is that we blow a 35-point lead with only
> 25 minutes of football remaining, and some bring up
> a referee's handling of a punt.  (I'm amazed no one
> mentioned the probably bogus late hit call on Cory
> Wooten even though it made no difference in the

I mentioned it a bit - questionable call for sure. But
that, as you say, really didn't affect the game much
aside for firing up Stanton. The punt was a big
momentum swing, even though we'd been flirting with
punting disasters all day.

I dunno - it's just a frustrating game and even when
the signs started creeping up - the missed FG at the
end of the half, the punt block, the INT after
Sutton's run - I kept thinking that we really couldn't
blow a 35-point lead with a quarter and a half of
football left, could we? Sadly we did.

I agree with the Linhardt's that there was a lot of
positive to take away with CJ and the O's performance
in the first half -- but that just got overshadowed in
the monumental collapse. And I think we all realize
that our only hope to pull of an upset the next three
games is Iowa and that's a slim hope - so we really
wanted this game to give Fitz and the Cats some hope
and close the season on a high note by beating
Illinois. Hopefully we can sit down this week and
shake off that devastation to see those positives and
keep building toward the Illinois win and next year
... but that's going to be a tough task seeing as how
I'm still shaking my head and muttering "35 friggin'
point lead" the morning after. I can only imagine what
the players and coaches are doing.

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From mlinhardt at netzero.net  Sun Oct 22 14:15:39 2006
From: mlinhardt at netzero.net (mlinhardt@netzero.net)
Date: Sun Oct 22 14:17:28 2006
Subject: [NU Sports] Bright side...
Message-ID: <20061022.121626.5451.1083857@webmail56.nyc.untd.com>

Please.  

The bad old days were much worse than this and my experience begins 
only in the Francis Peay era.

-- "John A. DeGroat" <johnadeg@bellatlantic.net> wrote:
Anyone who saw the Illinois - Penn State game knows that Illinois is 
on 
the way back and that given what this year has been like, NU will be 
lucky to beat Illinois.   If we don't we'll have another 0 win Big Ten 
season like in the bad old days.

John DeGroat

mlinhardt@netzero.net wrote:

>We(Maureen and I) actually came out of this weeks game more 
optimistic 
>about the future.
>
>For the past 3 games prior to this Saturday we have had NO offense.  
>This week we found an offense that includes passing, running, and 
>scoring.
>
>We all knew our defense had issues last year and this year they have 
>played a little better, but are still very, very weak.
>
>Ditto with the special teams.
>
>I think we are really hosed for the next three weeks, but if we can 
>avoid any more injuries I am optimistic about the Ill-whine-i game 
and 
>next season.
>
>
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From prplehaze at insightbb.com  Sun Oct 22 15:49:34 2006
From: prplehaze at insightbb.com (Mark Ament)
Date: Sun Oct 22 15:49:36 2006
Subject: [NU Sports] For What It is Worth
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and Wake Forest is 6-1 and ranked 24th in the country.  You're right, 
it's not an excuse and it can be done.  Wake is smaller than NU and 
faces many of the same obstacles.  It takes commitment, which we have, 
facilities, which we finally have, recruiting, which apparently is going 
better than ever and leaves me hopeful for the future.  You have to look 
for hope somewhere after yesterday.  I am also one that believes changes 
should be made in the defensive coaches and have thought that for some 
time, but that doesn't mean I am not optimistic about the future - just 
not the immediate future.
Mark

Hakirsch@aol.com wrote:

>This is not an excuse for yesterday nor  for the dismal season, but just 
>wanted to list the W-L records of  some of our academic competitors. Even though 
>it can be done, it is obviously very difficult  to get enough top student 
>athletes to have a good football program.
>
>Vandy  3-5
>Stanford 0-8
>Duke 0-7
>
>As an aside UNH lost to Northeastern yesterday--ugh !
>
>Harry
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From jeffb at hilgraeve.com  Sun Oct 22 17:26:23 2006
From: jeffb at hilgraeve.com (Jeff Beamsley)
Date: Sun Oct 22 17:27:05 2006
Subject: [NU Sports] Get over it!
Message-ID: <081801c6f629$1b47a510$97492745@hilgraeve.com>

I've been saying for months that this was going to be a difficult season for
us.
 
IMHO there was WAY more good news coming out of yesterday's game than bad.
 
We have a QB who can run the O and score some points.  We may not win
another game this year, but we will score some points and prove that we are
dangerous.  Without a QB, we are toast regardless of how well everyone else
plays.  With a QB we can have a team next year that can be competitive.
 
Surprised and disappointed at the weak D and special teams?  Where you been
the past seven years?  Tell me what sort of magic was going to turn these
historic weaknesses to strengths particularly this year.  The issues we have
been dealing with may have something to do with coaching, but as I've posted
before, play on the field is only part of their job.
 
Substantive change in the D is going to come from better recruiting as well
as better coaching.  From what I've read, we ARE recruiting better.  Who
gets the credit for that?  Might be these same guys getting toasted for the
team's poor play.
 
IMHO what happened on Saturday was a young team (and a young coaching staff)
finding themselves way ahead in a game they weren't supposed to win.  They
didn't know what to do and played the second half worried about losing
rather than playing to win.  This was a BIG learning experience for
everyone, but particularly Fitz.  I suspect no one is hurting more than he
is.
 
At the end of the day, the coaches lost this game because the kids weren't
prepared for playing with a big lead.  But it is this sort of experience
that most BT coaches bring to the job with them.  In our case, we've got a
great HC who is going to be gaining some of this experience on the job, but
I sense he is the sort of guy who will use this loss to win a lot more games
in the future.  
 
Jeff
 
 
 
 
From MHRJGScott at aol.com  Sun Oct 22 17:33:11 2006
From: MHRJGScott at aol.com (MHRJGScott@aol.com)
Date: Sun Oct 22 17:33:16 2006
Subject: [NU Sports] Get over it!
Message-ID: <c75.30bf02b.326d4ba7@aol.com>

Jeff, I agree with most of what you say, but yesterday's game was a NCAA  
record for blowing a lead, this was a world class screw up that will live in the  
record books for a long time. I am not going to get over it for a  while.
From sjtruog at yahoo.com  Sun Oct 22 19:21:05 2006
From: sjtruog at yahoo.com (SjT (Stephen J. Truog))
Date: Sun Oct 22 19:21:07 2006
Subject: [NU Sports] Happy thoughts ...
Message-ID: <20061023002105.93355.qmail@web52906.mail.yahoo.com>

Jeff's right about getting over it - it will take
time, but you're right about the good news and few
surprises. The real surprise was that we had a 38-3
lead, perhaps - it certainly seemed like we didn't
know what to do with it.:) 

But anyway, for those of us who need something to
smile about this season, ESPN Classic is replaying
some of the Michigan-Northwestern games this week as
we prepare to face the #2 team in the nation.

* Wednesday: 1995 NU win, 19-13
* Friday: 2000 NU win, 54-51

Just remembering that NUMB trip to the Big House in
1995 and watching the 2000 game from the stands with a
truly electric atmosphere under the lights in Evanston
brings a smile to my face.:)

GO CATS!!!
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From johnadeg at bellatlantic.net  Mon Oct 23 05:22:04 2006
From: johnadeg at bellatlantic.net (John A. DeGroat)
Date: Mon Oct 23 05:22:32 2006
Subject: [NU Sports] Get over it!
In-Reply-To: <081801c6f629$1b47a510$97492745@hilgraeve.com>
References: <081801c6f629$1b47a510$97492745@hilgraeve.com>
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I the recruiting has improved over the past couple of years, which it 
seems to have, the credit doe got to Fitz.  That is one of his real pluses.

John DeGroat

Jeff Beamsley wrote:

>I've been saying for months that this was going to be a difficult season for
>us.
> 
>IMHO there was WAY more good news coming out of yesterday's game than bad.
> 
>We have a QB who can run the O and score some points.  We may not win
>another game this year, but we will score some points and prove that we are
>dangerous.  Without a QB, we are toast regardless of how well everyone else
>plays.  With a QB we can have a team next year that can be competitive.
> 
>Surprised and disappointed at the weak D and special teams?  Where you been
>the past seven years?  Tell me what sort of magic was going to turn these
>historic weaknesses to strengths particularly this year.  The issues we have
>been dealing with may have something to do with coaching, but as I've posted
>before, play on the field is only part of their job.
> 
>Substantive change in the D is going to come from better recruiting as well
>as better coaching.  From what I've read, we ARE recruiting better.  Who
>gets the credit for that?  Might be these same guys getting toasted for the
>team's poor play.
> 
>IMHO what happened on Saturday was a young team (and a young coaching staff)
>finding themselves way ahead in a game they weren't supposed to win.  They
>didn't know what to do and played the second half worried about losing
>rather than playing to win.  This was a BIG learning experience for
>everyone, but particularly Fitz.  I suspect no one is hurting more than he
>is.
> 
>At the end of the day, the coaches lost this game because the kids weren't
>prepared for playing with a big lead.  But it is this sort of experience
>that most BT coaches bring to the job with them.  In our case, we've got a
>great HC who is going to be gaining some of this experience on the job, but
>I sense he is the sort of guy who will use this loss to win a lot more games
>in the future.  
> 
>Jeff
> 
> 
> 
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From DPENDERG at aol.com  Mon Oct 23 05:30:25 2006
From: DPENDERG at aol.com (DPENDERG@aol.com)
Date: Mon Oct 23 05:30:35 2006
Subject: [NU Sports] Get over it!
Message-ID: <cd3.e3e56c.326df3c1@aol.com>

 
Whatever Fitz's recruiting skill, continued poor, even  embarrassing 
performances on the field will diminish our appeal to  blue-chip prospects.
 
 
In a message dated 10/23/2006 6:24:12 A.M. Eastern Standard Time,  
johnadeg@bellatlantic.net writes:

I the  recruiting has improved over the past couple of years, which it 
seems to  have, the credit doe got to Fitz.  That is one of his real  pluses.

John DeGroat

Jeff Beamsley wrote:

>I've been  saying for months that this was going to be a difficult season  
for
>us.
> 
>IMHO there was WAY more good news coming out of  yesterday's game than bad.
> 
>We have a QB who can run the O and  score some points.  We may not win
>another game this year, but we  will score some points and prove that we are
>dangerous.  Without a  QB, we are toast regardless of how well everyone else
>plays.  With  a QB we can have a team next year that can be competitive.
>  
>Surprised and disappointed at the weak D and special teams?   Where you been
>the past seven years?  Tell me what sort of magic  was going to turn these
>historic weaknesses to strengths particularly  this year.  The issues we have
>been dealing with may have  something to do with coaching, but as I've posted
>before, play on the  field is only part of their job.
> 
>Substantive change in the D  is going to come from better recruiting as well
>as better  coaching.  From what I've read, we ARE recruiting better.   Who
>gets the credit for that?  Might be these same guys getting  toasted for the
>team's poor play.
> 
>IMHO what happened on  Saturday was a young team (and a young coaching staff)
>finding  themselves way ahead in a game they weren't supposed to win.   They
>didn't know what to do and played the second half worried about  losing
>rather than playing to win.  This was a BIG learning  experience for
>everyone, but particularly Fitz.  I suspect no one  is hurting more than he
>is.
> 
>At the end of the day, the  coaches lost this game because the kids weren't
>prepared for playing  with a big lead.  But it is this sort of experience
>that most BT  coaches bring to the job with them.  In our case, we've got  a
>great HC who is going to be gaining some of this experience on the  job, but
>I sense he is the sort of guy who will use this loss to win a  lot more games
>in the future.  
> 
>Jeff
>  
> 
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From tkmaycock at yahoo.com  Mon Oct 23 15:35:35 2006
From: tkmaycock at yahoo.com (Tom Maycock)
Date: Mon Oct 23 15:35:36 2006
Subject: [NU Sports] Oh oh (fwd)
In-Reply-To: <200610220433.k9M4XTEN031378@romaine.tssi.com>
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> > Yes, Tyrell was in at the end, trying to run back the final
> kickoff.  Not sure about any others.

As I recall, Sutton and Cole were in only when NU was in a "possible
on-side kick" formation. They were positioned at about the 15. (No, I
don't think anyone expected MSU to onside kick, but it was an obvious
possiblity that had to be respected).

This formation ended up being unfortunate with the one MSU kick that
kind of stopped dead just short of the goal line (previous kicks had
gone in the end-zone), as Sutton had to scramble to pick it up and was
tacked deep in out territory. 

On the last two kicks, I believe our regular return team (McManis and,
I think, Conteh) were back deep. 

My only other comment is that I hope we won't hear any more of the
absolutely ridiculous calls to fire McGee (after only half a season,
WTF?????).  

McGee put on a masterpiece of offensive play calling that lasted up
until the players stopped executing. I think Rees' absence really ended
up hurting them down the stretch.

Very tough loss, but I hope the Cats take something positive from it.
It's a brutal road ahead, but it would be nice to see them squeeze out
another couple of wins. 

Tom

From thehaze at earthlink.net  Mon Oct 23 20:04:54 2006
From: thehaze at earthlink.net (Jim Bendat)
Date: Mon Oct 23 20:05:00 2006
Subject: [NU Sports] Oh oh (fwd)
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Tom Maycock wrote:
> My only other comment is that I hope we won't hear any more of 
> theabsolutely ridiculous calls to fire McGee (after only half a 
> season,WTF?????).
> McGee put on a masterpiece of offensive play calling that lasted up until the players stopped executing. I think Rees' absence really ended up hurting them down the stretch.
>
> Very tough loss, but I hope the Cats take something positive from it. It's a brutal road ahead, but it would be nice to see them squeeze out another couple of wins. 
>
>   
Have to agree about McGee.  Fitz and McGee are growing with the job.  We 
need to have the patience to grow with them.  CJ threw 3 TDs, and 
Roberson threw one on a nice trick play.  Had we seen any offense like 
that in the seven previous games?

Colby may be another matter, however.  Fitz is very big on loyalty.  At 
some point, he may need to put that future of the program ahead of 
feelings of loyalty.

Can we win two more games?  I don't know.  But we do need to at least 
finish the season with a victory in the 100th NU-UI matchup.

One more thing about Saturday:  I listened to the game on WGN while I 
was sitting in Notre Dame Stadium for the ND-UCLA game.  I was 
completely decked out in purple NU gear.  The ND fans -- they still 
remember '95, I'm pleased to report.  Throughout the games, I was in 
touch with my NU student daughter was who in the stands at Ryan.  We 
suffered together.  Then, late that night, I watched as the NU and ND 
games were the first two stories on ESPN Sportscenter.  Tough to take. 
== Jim B.

From cherron604 at aol.com  Mon Oct 23 22:11:22 2006
From: cherron604 at aol.com (cherron604@aol.com)
Date: Mon Oct 23 22:11:42 2006
Subject: [NU Sports] Oh oh (fwd)
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Calls to replace McGee aren't ridiculous - he has zero experience as an OC, and until Bacher started taking snaps, he hadn't shown very much this year.  Either he got real good AT THE EXACT moment that Bacher showed up, or a reasonable person might credit Bacher with the improvement (intead of McGee).
 
It looks alot more like McGee has developed an offense that functions fairly well with a good quarterback and skilled running backs, but once the opponent adjusts, McGee has few (or no) answers.
 
To label a game 'A Masterpiece' for the OC when he goes 23 minutes without scoring seems to be a reach.
 
And to say that OUR players stopped executing McGee's 'Masterpiece' (sic) is patently insulting to our players.
 
Ridiculous is siding with an inexperienced journeyman coordinator and implying that it was our players who failed by not executing his plan.  All season long it has not been our players not executing - it has been lousy (inherited) assistants not doing their job, and in the process letting down our players.
 
Chuck Herron   Tech '85 
 
 
 
 
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> > Yes, Tyrell was in at the end, trying to run back the final
> kickoff.  Not sure about any others.

As I recall, Sutton and Cole were in only when NU was in a "possible
on-side kick" formation. They were positioned at about the 15. (No, I
don't think anyone expected MSU to onside kick, but it was an obvious
possiblity that had to be respected).

This formation ended up being unfortunate with the one MSU kick that
kind of stopped dead just short of the goal line (previous kicks had
gone in the end-zone), as Sutton had to scramble to pick it up and was
tacked deep in out territory. 

On the last two kicks, I believe our regular return team (McManis and,
I think, Conteh) were back deep. 

My only other comment is that I hope we won't hear any more of the
absolutely ridiculous calls to fire McGee (after only half a season,
WTF?????).  

McGee put on a masterpiece of offensive play calling that lasted up
until the players stopped executing. I think Rees' absence really ended
up hurting them down the stretch.

Very tough loss, but I hope the Cats take something positive from it.
It's a brutal road ahead, but it would be nice to see them squeeze out
another couple of wins. 

Tom

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From sjtruog at yahoo.com  Mon Oct 23 22:35:12 2006
From: sjtruog at yahoo.com (SjT (Stephen J. Truog))
Date: Mon Oct 23 22:35:29 2006
Subject: [NU Sports] PIGSKIN PICKS - Week 9
Message-ID: <20061024033512.95879.qmail@web52902.mail.yahoo.com>

Standings will hopefully be out by tomorrow night, but
we have a big Thursday night showdown in the ACC so I
wanted to get the lineup out for week 9.

PIGSKIN PICKS - WEEK 9
######################
Name: 

BIG TEN
=======
Game  1: Illinois @ Wisconsin 
Winner: 

Game  2: Michigan State @ Indiana
Winner: 

Game  3: Northern Illinois @ Iowa
Winner: 

Game  4: Minnesota @ Ohio State
Winner: 

Game  5: Penn State @ Purdue
Winner: 

NATIONAL
========
Game  6: Clemson @ Virginia Tech
Winner: 

Game  7: Florida vs. Georgia (@ Jacksonville, FL)
Winner: 

Game  8: Tennessee @ South Carolina
Winner: 

Game  9: Miami (FL) @ Georgia Tech
Winner: 

Game 10: Oklahoma @ Missouri
Winner: 

MY PICKS
========
* WISCONSIN 41, Illinois 10
C: The much-improved Badgers are rolling and the
Illini may be improved, but they're not up to winning
at Camp Randall yet.

* MICHIGAN STATE 30, Indiana 20
C: The Hoosiers will make it tough, but MSU will use
the momentum from last week to get up early and win.

* IOWA 23, Northern Illinois 16
C: The Hawks need a breather from the Big Ten, but the
Huskies won't be intimidated after playing well at the
Shoe earlier this season. Bumblebees survive a scare.

* OHIO STATE 34, Minnesota 7
C: Glen Mason's pulled off big upsets at Columbus and
Happy Valley in the past and the hard-luck Gophers are
due for a win ... but this is a pretty darn good
Buckeye team and they're not stumbling here.

* PENN STATE 27, Purdue 17
C: Good game and could be for a New Year's Day bowl
berth in Tampa, but JoePa's had Tiller's number more
than anybody and the Lions are underrated, losing only
to three pretty darn good teams this year.

* CLEMSON 38, Virginia Tech 30
C: Real dangerous game for the Tigers on a short week
here as Blacksburg is tough at night ... but it's a
new ACC this year and Clemson seems to be the cream of
the crop. Surviving at Tech would be a huge boost.

* FLORIDA 24, Georgia 3
C: One of these teams is legit, one is a major
pretender. Gators roll and Urban improves his record
against the Gator's big rivals to 5-0.

* TENNESSEE 21, South Carolina 10
C: Every game's a struggle in the SEC and this is a
dangerous trip for the Vols, but a late drive seals
the fate and Phat Phil gets some revenge on Spurrier.

* GEORGIA TECH 28, Miami 14
C: The Canes shouldn't have half their players on the
sidelines here and have become a joke both on the
field and in terms of a university running a football
program. Here's hoping the Jackets win by a hundred
over these tiresome thugs.

* MISSOURI 26, Oklahoma 21
C: Good game in the Big XII as the Sooners are still
adjusting to life without AP and the Tigers are still
adjusting to being a good team - Mizzou is fun to
watch and despite some errors, wins a big one at home.

And off the board ...

* MICHIGAN 34, Northwestern 7
C: C.J. is our answer at quarterback, but even Baz in
a sixth year would have trouble moving the ball
against Big Blue's defense. The #2 team in the country
rolls.

Remember, picks in by THURSDAY.
GO CATS!!!
-SjT

* * * * * * * * *
STEPHEN J. TRUOG
sjtruog@yahoo.com
GO CATS!!!

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From bwdolphin146 at yahoo.com  Tue Oct 24 02:21:24 2006
From: bwdolphin146 at yahoo.com (Brad Wilson)
Date: Tue Oct 24 02:21:26 2006
Subject: [NU Sports] I don't hate the coaches ...
Message-ID: <20061024072124.16486.qmail@web51314.mail.yahoo.com>

... Roy, I really don't. They seem like nice people
and are doing the best they can in a tough spot.

But if I had done as poorly at my job as Colby and
Brown have over the years, I'd have been rightfully
fired years ago.

I certainly have no desire to replace most of the
staff. The recruiting has been terrific, from what I
can see (though one never knows until the kids
actually play how good a class is). McGee's offense
looked just fine for about 36 minutes Saturday, so
maybe he's rounding into form and getting his legs.
And, though some of my NU friends are beginning to
grumble about Fitz, he's obviously the man for quite a
while.

But Colby and Brown ... college coaching is not a
field where jobs are guaranteed for life. Look at
Michigan: Carr didn't like what he saw, heave-hoed his
coordinators last offseason and he's in the national
title hunt. Or Tennessee: Phil Fulmer canned his
o-coordinator in midseason, brought back the highly
competent David Cutcliffe (what dunces they were at
Ole Miss to let this guy go) and UT is having a fine
season. Of course NU lacks the sheer talent of those
teams, but that makes the case for having the best
coordinators possible even stronger.

In no way do I want the duplicitious, double-talking
Barnett back in any way, or any one like him (I agree
the stepping-stone mentality is a disaster; those
pointing to Wake's success should note they have been
patient with Jim Grobe and it's paid off). But I do
want competent coaches, and having watched Colby and
Brown's units for years I think changes are called
for. I think many fair-minded people would agree, and
the evidence on the field strongly suggests so.
Midseason moves are not necessary, but I suggest the
shakeup start Nov. 19.

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From johnadeg at bellatlantic.net  Tue Oct 24 07:59:36 2006
From: johnadeg at bellatlantic.net (John A. DeGroat)
Date: Tue Oct 24 09:00:37 2006
Subject: [NU Sports] I don't hate the coaches ...
In-Reply-To: <20061024072124.16486.qmail@web51314.mail.yahoo.com>
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I don't know why people have to keep bad mouthing Barnett.  Withug him, 
no Rose Bowl and no Pat Fitzgerald who would have ended up at ND and 
probably NU out of the Big Ten.

John DeGroat

Brad Wilson wrote:

>... Roy, I really don't. They seem like nice people
>and are doing the best they can in a tough spot.
>
>But if I had done as poorly at my job as Colby and
>Brown have over the years, I'd have been rightfully
>fired years ago.
>
>I certainly have no desire to replace most of the
>staff. The recruiting has been terrific, from what I
>can see (though one never knows until the kids
>actually play how good a class is). McGee's offense
>looked just fine for about 36 minutes Saturday, so
>maybe he's rounding into form and getting his legs.
>And, though some of my NU friends are beginning to
>grumble about Fitz, he's obviously the man for quite a
>while.
>
>But Colby and Brown ... college coaching is not a
>field where jobs are guaranteed for life. Look at
>Michigan: Carr didn't like what he saw, heave-hoed his
>coordinators last offseason and he's in the national
>title hunt. Or Tennessee: Phil Fulmer canned his
>o-coordinator in midseason, brought back the highly
>competent David Cutcliffe (what dunces they were at
>Ole Miss to let this guy go) and UT is having a fine
>season. Of course NU lacks the sheer talent of those
>teams, but that makes the case for having the best
>coordinators possible even stronger.
>
>In no way do I want the duplicitious, double-talking
>Barnett back in any way, or any one like him (I agree
>the stepping-stone mentality is a disaster; those
>pointing to Wake's success should note they have been
>patient with Jim Grobe and it's paid off). But I do
>want competent coaches, and having watched Colby and
>Brown's units for years I think changes are called
>for. I think many fair-minded people would agree, and
>the evidence on the field strongly suggests so.
>Midseason moves are not necessary, but I suggest the
>shakeup start Nov. 19.
>
>Brad Wilson
>
>
>
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From tkmaycock at yahoo.com  Tue Oct 24 08:41:12 2006
From: tkmaycock at yahoo.com (Tom Maycock)
Date: Tue Oct 24 09:07:59 2006
Subject: [NU Sports] Oh oh (fwd)
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--- cherron604@aol.com wrote:
> Calls to replace McGee aren't ridiculous - 

Yes, they were. 

> he has zero experience as an OC, 

Exactly. Expecting him to be perfect right out of the gate is just
silly. I'm sure he would be the first to tell you that he plans to get
better. 

The whole university is based on the premise that it is possible to
learn, to teach, and to get better. So how can it possibly make sense
to can a coach halfway through his first season as OC, particularly
when he starts with a rookie QB, then faces 3 Big Ten games with yet
another rookie QB? And a banged-up offensive line?

> Bacher showed up, or a reasonable person might credit Bacher with the
> improvement (intead of McGee).

Or might credit Bacher with actually executing well enough to allow
McGee to do his job?

Did you *see* the play calling in the first half/early 3rd quarter? It
was brilliant. Period.

>  
> It looks alot more like McGee has developed an offense that functions
> fairly well with a good quarterback and skilled running backs, 

As opposed to all those vaunted offenses that run well *without* a good
QB and skilled RBs????

> And to say that OUR players stopped executing McGee's 'Masterpiece'
> (sic) is patently insulting to our players.

I'm pretty sure the players will be the first to say they stopped
executing. In fact, they did--see C.J.'s comments after the game. 

And the interception knocked out of Sutton's hand? Happened because
another receiver ran the wrong route. 

I'm sure McGee made mistakes too. Most of us probably made mistakes
last week. 

Tom

From jeffb at hilgraeve.com  Tue Oct 24 10:04:40 2006
From: jeffb at hilgraeve.com (Jeff Beamsley)
Date: Tue Oct 24 10:05:23 2006
Subject: [NU Sports] Oh oh (fwd)
In-Reply-To: <20061024134112.84940.qmail@web33105.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <0ece01c6f77d$bb2cdcd0$97492745@hilgraeve.com>

IMHO, there are way too many variables this year to hold any particular
individual (coach or player) accountable.

The nature and timing of the coaching change.

The fact that we were auditioning new QB's in a QB-dependent offense.

The fact that the most experienced QB was injured in the pre-season.

The fact that his backup was also injured before the BT season started.

None of these are excuses for poor play, but another fact is that we haven't
seen this team play a complete game yet either.  It isn't fair to expect the
defense to win the game if the offense can't score and turns the ball
over(unless you're the Bears).  It also isn't fair to expect the offense to
win the game if the defense can't keep the other team out of the end zone.
It also isn't fair to expect the offense and defense to keep the game close
if the special teams regularly give up field position and points.  

With the injuries starting to pile up on both offense and defense, and the
teams that we are playing over the next couple of weeks, I don't know if we
will see a complete game where we can accurately judge whether or not the
defense (for example) is making progress.

The only facts that we do know is that we are likely to have a losing
season, we have found a QB, and our defense and special teams continue to
struggle.  I was predicting a losing season even before RW passed.  The only
BT win I had on my list was Illinois and that was a maybe. So if someone had
said in the days after his passing that we would end the season with Fitz
firmly in HC seat, a solid Baz successor on the field, continued struggle on
defense and special teams, and no BT wins - I would have said "I'll take it"
because it certainly could easily have been much worse.

Some other posters have suggested that this season is going to hurt
recruiting.  It certainly seems logical, but at the same time, that would
mean that losing teams would never have an opportunity to get better, and
yet many (including NU) regularly do.  

So I think we have to wait until the end at least this season after the
recruiting class is announced before we attempt to grade Fitz and his
assistants.  Their mid-term grade is certainly going to be marginal, but I
think that they may still be able to pull out a passing grade by doing good
on the final.

Jeff

 

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--- cherron604@aol.com wrote:
> Calls to replace McGee aren't ridiculous -

Yes, they were. 

> he has zero experience as an OC,

Exactly. Expecting him to be perfect right out of the gate is just silly.
I'm sure he would be the first to tell you that he plans to get better. 

The whole university is based on the premise that it is possible to learn,
to teach, and to get better. So how can it possibly make sense to can a
coach halfway through his first season as OC, particularly when he starts
with a rookie QB, then faces 3 Big Ten games with yet another rookie QB? And
a banged-up offensive line?

> Bacher showed up, or a reasonable person might credit Bacher with the 
> improvement (intead of McGee).

Or might credit Bacher with actually executing well enough to allow McGee to
do his job?

Did you *see* the play calling in the first half/early 3rd quarter? It was
brilliant. Period.

>  
> It looks alot more like McGee has developed an offense that functions 
> fairly well with a good quarterback and skilled running backs,

As opposed to all those vaunted offenses that run well *without* a good QB
and skilled RBs????

> And to say that OUR players stopped executing McGee's 'Masterpiece'
> (sic) is patently insulting to our players.

I'm pretty sure the players will be the first to say they stopped executing.
In fact, they did--see C.J.'s comments after the game. 

And the interception knocked out of Sutton's hand? Happened because another
receiver ran the wrong route. 

I'm sure McGee made mistakes too. Most of us probably made mistakes last
week. 

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From Martinitis at aol.com  Tue Oct 24 13:04:13 2006
From: Martinitis at aol.com (Martinitis@aol.com)
Date: Tue Oct 24 13:04:20 2006
Subject: [NU Sports] I don't hate the coaches ...
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In a message dated 10/24/2006 9:03:53 A.M. Pacific Standard Time,  
johnadeg@bellatlantic.net writes:

I don't  know why people have to keep bad mouthing Barnett.  Without him, 
no  Rose Bowl and no Pat Fitzgerald who would have ended up at ND and 
probably  NU out of the Big Ten.


Well, though I rarely agree with you John, but I definitely do here.   The 
guy turned around our program.  How many on this list really paid any  attention 
to NU football before ND in '95?  I for one would have no problem  with him 
helping Fitz get his sea legs.  Fitz is the long term solution,  but we don't 
want to give up all the excellent recruiting equity we have  achieved because 
we can't be respectable short term.  If Murphy is fine  with a role for 
Barnett, I think it would be a positive move.  He not  only won, but ran a clean 
program.  The Colorado stuff was B.S.   That's why they didn't fire him until he 
was losing....Of course, it's probably  moot because I believe he is moving in 
other directions.
 
Lou
From phredd+gounu.12ce50 at ursus-lente.org  Tue Oct 24 13:24:37 2006
From: phredd+gounu.12ce50 at ursus-lente.org (Phredd Groves)
Date: Tue Oct 24 13:24:43 2006
Subject: [NU Sports] I don't hate the coaches ...
In-Reply-To: <ccc.1040fec.326faf9d@aol.com>
References: <ccc.1040fec.326faf9d@aol.com>
Message-ID: <20061024182437.GD29663@ursus-lente.org>

Barnett could have single handedly won the Rose Bowl, the NCAA basketball
tournament and the DARPA robot vehicle challenge for Northwestern and he'd
still deserve nothing but comtempt after this, "It was obvious Katie was not
very good, she was awful, you know what guys do, they respect your ability ...
if you can go out and play they respect you. Well Katie was a girl, not only
was she a girl, she was terrible."



From jeffb at hilgraeve.com  Tue Oct 24 16:19:19 2006
From: jeffb at hilgraeve.com (Jeff Beamsley)
Date: Tue Oct 24 16:19:59 2006
Subject: [NU Sports] I don't hate the coaches ...
In-Reply-To: <20061024182437.GD29663@ursus-lente.org>
Message-ID: <105401c6f7b2$119318d0$97492745@hilgraeve.com>

There is a good book out about this whole incident called Buffaloed by Bruce
Plasket.  You should really read it before you continue to damn Barnett for
this particular comment.

Jeff

-----Original Message-----
From: nwu-sports-bounces@tssi.com [mailto:nwu-sports-bounces@tssi.com] On
Behalf Of Phredd Groves
Sent: Tuesday, October 24, 2006 2:25 PM
To: nwu-sports@tssi.com
Subject: Re: [NU Sports] I don't hate the coaches ...

Barnett could have single handedly won the Rose Bowl, the NCAA basketball
tournament and the DARPA robot vehicle challenge for Northwestern and he'd
still deserve nothing but comtempt after this, "It was obvious Katie was not
very good, she was awful, you know what guys do, they respect your ability
...
if you can go out and play they respect you. Well Katie was a girl, not only
was she a girl, she was terrible."



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From sjtruog at yahoo.com  Wed Oct 25 01:16:55 2006
From: sjtruog at yahoo.com (SjT (Stephen J. Truog))
Date: Wed Oct 25 01:17:19 2006
Subject: [NU Sports] PIGSKIN PICKS - Standings
Message-ID: <20061025061655.72923.qmail@web52907.mail.yahoo.com>

It may have been a rough week for Cats fans, but at
least we can take solace in a solid week in the picks.
Honor roll, here we go ...

UNANIMOUS PICKS

* OHIO STATE over Indiana - we were right (duh!:) )

UPSET SPECIALS

* BOSTON COLLEGE over Florida State: Picked by Carl
Rossi, Ace McInturff, Peg Wolfe, Brad Wilson, Phredd
Groves, Jim Leonard and Chuck Herron.

Now to the big board ...

                     PICKS RECORD        UPSETS
LW TW  Name	     Wk 8  Overall Pct.  W8 Ovrl  Wks
=====================================================
 1  1) Trey McAdams   9-1   77-18  .811   0   2	  8
 2  2) Chris Bailey   9-1   75-20  .789   0   2   8
 7  2) Chuck Herron  10-0   75-20  .789   1   4   8
 2  2) Marilyn Zilka  9-1   75-20  .789   0   4   8
 2  5) Stephen Truog  8-2   74-21  .779   0   3   8
10  6) Brad Wilson    9-1   66-19  .776   1   2   7
 5  7) Ivars Embrekts 8-2   62-18  .775   0   2   7
 6  8) Mark Ament     8-2   58-17  .773   0   0   6
 7  9) Alan Wolfson   8-2   73-22  .768   0   0   8
10 10) Matt Barnard   8-2   65-20  .765   0   0   7
12 11) Michael Vance  8-2   57-18  .760   0   1   6
13 12) Ryan Farney    8-2   72-23  .758   0   0   8
 7 12) Brian Winkler  7-3   72-23  .758   0   3   8
13 14) Jim Bendat     ---   64-21  .753   -   1   7
16 15) John Labbe     8-2   70-25  .737   0   1   8
21 16) Peg Wolfe      9-1   55-20  .733   1   3   6
15 16) Clark Zahn     ---   55-20  .733   -   1   6
19 18) Phredd Groves  8-2   69-26  .726   1   3   8
16 18) John Hodges    7-3   69-26  .726   0   1   8
16 18) Eric Steffe    7-3   69-26  .726   0   0   8
19 21) John Lieske    ---   61-24  .718   -   3   7
24 22) Kelly Sevilla  9-1   68-27  .716   0   2   8
23 23) Bruce Taylor   8-2   57-23  .713   0   0   7
22 24) Ray Stahl      7-3   67-28  .705   0   3   8
24 25) Sam Wolfson    7-3   66-29  .695   0   2   8
27 26) Jim Leonard    8-2   65-30  .684   1   4   8
26 27) Bob Waldele    6-4   45-25  .643   0   2   6
28 28) Ace McInturff  7-3   58-37  .611   1   6   8

Not eligible at this time (must be in 2/3 of weeks)
---------------------------------------------------
xx xx) Carl Rossi     8-2   40-15  .727   1   6   5
xx xx) Joe Thiegs     ---   44-11  .800	  -   0   4
xx xx) Michael Whelan ---   44-11  .800   -   0   4
xx xx) David Warner   ---   39-16  .709	  -   0   4
xx xx) Arthur Miller  ---   31- 9  .775   -   1   3
xx xx) Neil Kaplan    ---   26- 4  .867   -   1   2
xx xx) T. Haleas      ---   14- 1  .933	  -   0   1
xx xx) Jason Singer   ---   14- 1  .933   -   1   1
xx xx) Roger Bradshaw ---   13- 2  .867   -   0   1
xx xx) Harlan Hieber  ---   11- 4  .733   -   0	  1

And now to the rankings for this week ...

LW TW  SjTOP 25 COLLEGE RANKINGS
================================
 1  1) OHIO STATE - Gophers have bitten Bucks before
 2  2) MICHIGAN - Solid D stifles Hawkeyes
 3  3) SOUTHERN CAL - Even bye week almost beat SC
 4  4) WEST VIRGINIA - Sluggish win at lowly Huskies
 5  5) TEXAS - Big win at Nebraska - rematch later?
 6  6) AUBURN - Should steamroll to Iron Bowl
 7  7) FLORIDA - Week off to lick wounds for UGa
 8  8) TENNESSEE - Survived Bama scare - Spurrier next
 9  9) CALIFORNIA - OT scare almost ruined Pac 10 race
12 10) CLEMSON - Big win vs. Tech makes Tigers ACC #1
10 11) LOUISVILLE - Can earn respect vs. Mountaineers
15 12) ARKANSAS - Hogs wild now, but Vols, LSU left
11 13) NOTRE DAME - Lucky win vs. UCLA's backup QB
16 14) LSU - Tigers can still move up with games left
17 15) OKLAHOMA - Sooners running on fumes now
20 16) BOSTON COLLEGE - Win at Tallahassee still big
19 17) WISCONSIN - Most underrated team in America?
18 18) BOISE STATE - Not enough to earn BCS bid yet
13 19) GEORGIA TECH - Tough loss gives Canes hope
22 20) RUTGERS - Pitt win a start toward respect
23 21) WAKE FOREST - Still lurking in ACC race
21 22) NEBRASKA - Tough loss, but earned respect
NR 23) TEXAS A&M - Franchione still needs a big win
NR 24) PENN STATE - Three losses to top 10 teams
14 25) OREGON - Ducks fell in to Wazzu trap
	
DROPPED OUT: (24) Iowa, (25) Alabama
OTHERS TO WATCH: Georgia, Missouri, Pittsburgh,
Virginia Tech

GO CATS!!!
-SjT

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From cherron604 at aol.com  Wed Oct 25 20:08:03 2006
From: cherron604 at aol.com (cherron604@aol.com)
Date: Wed Oct 25 20:08:12 2006
Subject: [NU Sports] WARNING
Message-ID: <8C8C6B25273A839-F8-2546@WEBMAIL-MB09.sysops.aol.com>

Warning to all -
 
Do not tune to ESPN Classic - they are replaying Saturday's debacle with John L Smith
 
(How it qualifies as a 'classic' is anybody's guess)
 
It was impossibly painful to watch in person
 
I can only hope that all videotapes are destroyed
 
Chuck Herron   Tech '85
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From cherron604 at aol.com  Wed Oct 25 22:42:47 2006
From: cherron604 at aol.com (cherron604@aol.com)
Date: Wed Oct 25 22:42:54 2006
Subject: [NU Sports] Oh Canada
Message-ID: <8C8C6C7EFDE942F-F8-2ABC@WEBMAIL-MB09.sysops.aol.com>

Canadian schools to join the NCAA ?
 
http://www.usatoday.com/sports/college/2006-10-25-ncaa-canada_x.htm
 
Chuck Herron   Tech '85 
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From johnl at mac.com  Wed Oct 25 22:46:15 2006
From: johnl at mac.com (John Labbe)
Date: Wed Oct 25 22:46:25 2006
Subject: [NU Sports] WARNING
In-Reply-To: <8C8C6B25273A839-F8-2546@WEBMAIL-MB09.sysops.aol.com>
References: <8C8C6B25273A839-F8-2546@WEBMAIL-MB09.sysops.aol.com>
Message-ID: <2ef0aeb06e70c30d1453dbfa90dff312@mac.com>

You should have tuned in earlier today when they were replaying the  
1995 Michigan game.  I recorded it and watched it this evening.  That  
was our only win in Michigan Stadium in the past 47 years.  I believe  
they're also showing Michigan 2000 sometime this week, as well.


On Oct 25, 2006, at 8:08 PM, cherron604@aol.com wrote:

> Warning to all -
>
> Do not tune to ESPN Classic - they are replaying Saturday's debacle  
> with John L Smith
>
> (How it qualifies as a 'classic' is anybody's guess)
>
> It was impossibly painful to watch in person
>
> I can only hope that all videotapes are destroyed
>
> Chuck Herron   Tech '85
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From rstetson at capps-assoc.com  Wed Oct 25 23:14:49 2006
From: rstetson at capps-assoc.com (Roy Lamberton)
Date: Wed Oct 25 23:14:49 2006
Subject: [NU Sports] Oh Canada
In-Reply-To: <8C8C6C7EFDE942F-F8-2ABC@WEBMAIL-MB09.sysops.aol.com>
Message-ID: <002501c6f8b5$47bf82a0$6701a8c0@DAVIDXP>

Why Not, give the bands something new to learn, and give those SEC teams some
cold weather venutes.

rsl

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> -----Original Message-----
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> [mailto:nwu-sports-bounces@tssi.com] On Behalf Of cherron604@aol.com
> Sent: Wednesday, October 25, 2006 11:43 PM
> To: nwu-sports@tssi.com
> Subject: [NU Sports] Oh Canada
> 
> 
> Canadian schools to join the NCAA ?
>  
> http://www.usatoday.com/sports/college/2006-10-25-ncaa-canada_x.htm
>  
> Chuck Herron   Tech '85 
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From nolan at romaine.tssi.com  Wed Oct 25 23:25:03 2006
From: nolan at romaine.tssi.com (Mike Nolan)
Date: Wed Oct 25 23:25:07 2006
Subject: [NU Sports] WARNING (fwd)
Message-ID: <200610260425.k9Q4P3qb014034@romaine.tssi.com>

> Do not tune to ESPN Classic - they are replaying Saturday's debacle with John L Smith
>  
> (How it qualifies as a 'classic' is anybody's guess)

Aww, c'mon.

If the roles had been reversed and the Cats had been the team that came
back from a 35 point deficit, you'd be delighted ESPN Classic was running 
it again.  

For example, I recall the delight on the List when our wins over Michigan 
were replayed.
--
Mike Nolan

From DPENDERG at aol.com  Thu Oct 26 05:24:18 2006
From: DPENDERG at aol.com (DPENDERG@aol.com)
Date: Thu Oct 26 05:24:24 2006
Subject: [NU Sports] WARNING
Message-ID: <c93.a9b2fc.3271e6d2@aol.com>

 
I watched the first half but could not rally the strength to endure  the 
second.  Cats played so well in the first half that I am even more  amazed with 
the total collapse -- offense and defense -- in the second  half.  Spartans 
deserve credit, of course, for not folding, but all we  needed to do was hold the 
ball for one sustained drive, which we did  not.  
 
 
In a message dated 10/25/2006 9:10:40 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,  
cherron604@aol.com writes:

Warning  to all -

Do not tune to ESPN Classic - they are replaying Saturday's  debacle with 
John L Smith

(How it qualifies as a 'classic' is anybody's  guess)

It was impossibly painful to watch in person

I can only  hope that all videotapes are destroyed

Chuck Herron   Tech  '85
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From rstetson at capps-assoc.com  Thu Oct 26 07:25:51 2006
From: rstetson at capps-assoc.com (Roy Lamberton)
Date: Thu Oct 26 07:26:02 2006
Subject: [NU Sports] NU Sports News Digest for 10/22
Message-ID: <002a01c6f8f9$e0a9fe20$6701a8c0@DAVIDXP>

www.PurpleWildcats.com
for Purple Reign & the NU Sports List

Sorry guys, I went to Evanston for the Fast Break Club and didn't send this out
Monday...Too many football games..


Homecoming Weekend Wrapup Edition



                                      All the News that Fits We Link
                                       Your Index to on-line News about
                                       Northwestern University Athletics

FOOTBALL

     Spartans' rally stuns NU
 
http://chicagosports.chicagotribune.com/sports/college/northwestern/cs-061021nor
thwesternmichiganstatefootballgamer,1,1615192.story?coll=cs-college-headlines 
     + SjT View from - MSU 41 NU 38
      http://northwestern.scout.com/2/581953.html 
     + Northwestern update from CFN
      http://cfn.scout.com/2/557808.html 
     + Hot Start, But Historic Collapse
 
http://www.dailynorthwestern.com/news/2006/10/23/Sports/Hot-Start.But.Historic.C
ollapse.football-2382131.shtml 
     + 'Hit By A Haymaker'
 
http://www.dailynorthwestern.com/news/2006/10/23/Sports/hit-By.A.Haymaker.footba
ll-2382120.shtml 
     + Wildcats collapse
 
http://www.nwherald.com/articles/2006/10/22/sports/college/northwestern/doc453b4
bdfe570b134679159.txt 

     Leg Injury Could Sideline Roach For Good
 
http://www.dailynorthwestern.com/news/2006/10/23/Sports/Leg-Injury.Could.Sidelin
e.Roach.For.Good-2382139.shtml 

     Bacher's QB play a highlight
 
http://chicagosports.chicagotribune.com/sports/college/northwestern/cs-061023009
1oct23,1,486408.story?coll=cs-college-nwestern-print 

     another fire the assistants coaches guy....
     Dorsey: Changes Must Be Made Before Fitzgerald's Tenure Slips Away
 
http://www.dailynorthwestern.com/news/2006/10/23/Sports/Changes.Must.Be.Made.Bef
ore.Fitzgeralds.Tenure.Slips.Away-2382134.shtml 
     Lamberton: Random Thoughts: How Things Go Downhill Fast
      http://northwestern.scout.com/2/582318.html 

Next up for the Cats:

     10/28 @ Michigan Wolverines 11 AM ABC/ESPN
     Michigan Moves To No. 2 in BCS Poll
      http://story.scout.com/a.z?s=179&p=2&c=582177 
     + CFN update for Michigan
      http://cfn.scout.com/2/557811.html 
     + Bacher wakes up dormant offense
      http://www.dailyherald.com/sports/northwestern.asp?id=241168 


     Big 10 [The rest of NU's schedule]
     Big Ten Roundup - Week Eight Standings & More
      http://story.scout.com/a.z?s=179&p=2&c=582284 
     + Big Ten Boasts Top Two Teams in Second BCS Poll
      http://bigten.cstv.com/sports/m-footbl/spec-rel/102306aaa.html 

RECRUITING

     Scott Concannon: Center's injury very big blow for Bruins
      http://www.columbiatribune.com/2006/Oct/20061022Spor004.asp 
     David Arnold Copley beats Wadsworth
      http://www.ohio.com/mld/ohio/sports/high_school/15814809.htm 
     Jordan Mabin Senior running back dominates in Nordonia win
      http://www.ohio.com/mld/ohio/sports/high_school/15805047.htm 
     Cameron Joplin Pioneers playoff-bound
 
http://www.mlive.com/preps/aanews/football/index.ssf?/base/sports-1/116141324324
1810.xml&coll=2 
     + Two more teams join the party Pioneer, Whitmore Lake make the playoffs,
Howell on the bubble
 
http://www.mlive.com/preps/aanews/football/index.ssf?/base/sports-1/116141435024
1810.xml&coll=2 

BASKETBALL


     Big 10
     Matta agrees to contract extension at OSU
      http://feeds.feedburner.com/%7Er/foxsports/rss/cbk/%7E3/40167942/6086798 

FIELD HOCKEY

     Hawkeyes Nip 'Cats, 2-1, In Final Home Contest
      http://nusports.cstv.com/sports/w-fieldh/recaps/102206aad.html 

SOCCER

     Men
     Wildcats Fall in Double Overtime at Michigan State
      http://nusports.cstv.com/sports/m-soccer/recaps/102206aaa.html 
     Women
     Wildcats Fall to No. 9 Penn State, 2-1
      http://nusports.cstv.com/sports/w-soccer/recaps/102206aaa.html 

TENNIS

     Men
     'Cats Eliminated from ITA Midwest Regional Championships
      http://nusports.cstv.com/sports/m-tennis/spec-rel/102206aaa.html 
     Women
     Duo Reaches Finals of ITA Midwest Regional Championships
      http://nusports.cstv.com/sports/w-tennis/spec-rel/102206aac.html 
     + Day Four Of ITA Midwest Regionals
      http://msuspartans.cstv.com/sports/w-tennis/recaps/102206aaa.html 
     + Bottom 32 Doubles
 
http://www.collegesports.com/auto_pdf/p_hotos/s_chools/msu/sports/w-tennis/auto_
pdf/bottom32sunday 

VOLLEYBALL

     Northwestern Falls at No. 14 Purdue, 3-1
      http://nusports.cstv.com/sports/w-volley/recaps/102106aab.html 

MISCELLANY

     In the Zone
      http://ww.tmz.com/2006/10/22/britneys-tot-sutton-p-or-jayden-j/ 

     Beer keg explosion in Connecticut kills 1, injures 7 partygoers
      http://www.startribune.com/484/story/760058.html 

     Huskies get daring to shock 'Cats in OT
      http://sports.bostonherald.com/college/football/view.bg?articleid=163523 

Alumni

     Todd Martin will play a charity event next Sunday at Louisiana State
University (LSU in the Duel Under the Oaks, an 
     event to help raise money for LSU Health Sciences Center students impacted
by Hurricanes Katrina and Rita.

     Willie Weinbaum, et al: Medill Club of NYC--Sports Journalism: Thinking
Outside the (Press) Box
      http://www.alumni.northwestern.edu/nyc/calendar_nyc.html?Event=1015 

     PGA
     Luke Donald - off this week

     Nationwide Tour PalmettoPride Classic
      http://www.pgatour.com/story/9744623 
     + Sim and Duke will have to wait until Monday at PalmettoPride Classic
      http://www.pgatour.com/story/9744623 
     Jess Daley - Full Scorecard - Tied for 34th
      http://www.pgatour.com/players/scorecard/285331/h091/2006 
     Tom Johnson - Full Scorecard - in the Clubhouse tied for 4th
      http://www.pgatour.com/players/scorecard/466839/h091/2006 

   2006 Football Opponents

     11/4 @ Iowa Hawkeyes
     11/11 Ohio State [Lasalle Bank Day]
     Ohio State's run at No. 1 reached 9 weeks
 
http://chicagosports.chicagotribune.com/sports/college/cs-061022appoll,1,6040909
.story?coll=cs-college-headlines 
     $ One Goal, One Objective For 2006 Buckeyes
      http://story.scout.com/a.z?s=179&p=2&c=582236 

     11/18 Illinois Fighting Illini [Senior Day]

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From thiegs at umn.edu  Thu Oct 26 08:52:54 2006
From: thiegs at umn.edu (Joe Thiegs)
Date: Thu Oct 26 08:53:03 2006
Subject: [NU Sports] WARNING (fwd)
In-Reply-To: <200610260425.k9Q4P3qb014034@romaine.tssi.com>
Message-ID: <000c01c6f906$094b2f00$fb326580@mnfound.umn.edu>


Mike's right.  Not only the Michigan games, but the 2000 "Victory Right"
game (was that NU's greatest comeback of all time?) still gets replayed from
time to time, and no one on this board complains then....  :)  -Joe

-----Original Message-----
From: nwu-sports-bounces@tssi.com [mailto:nwu-sports-bounces@tssi.com] On
Behalf Of Mike Nolan
Sent: Wednesday, October 25, 2006 11:25 PM
To: nwu-sports@romaine.tssi.com
Subject: [NU Sports] WARNING (fwd)

> Do not tune to ESPN Classic - they are replaying Saturday's debacle with
John L Smith
>  
> (How it qualifies as a 'classic' is anybody's guess)

Aww, c'mon.

If the roles had been reversed and the Cats had been the team that came
back from a 35 point deficit, you'd be delighted ESPN Classic was running 
it again.  

For example, I recall the delight on the List when our wins over Michigan 
were replayed.
--
Mike Nolan

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From christopher_bailey at yahoo.com  Sat Oct 21 14:45:18 2006
From: christopher_bailey at yahoo.com (Christopher Bailey)
Date: Thu Oct 26 08:55:26 2006
Subject: [NU Sports] Any bigger?
Message-ID: <20061021194518.29490.qmail@web60311.mail.yahoo.com>

Has anyone come back from more to beat NU?

On the bright side, I felt as confident (in the first half) as I
did for a good chunk of last season.  I'm numb right now, but I
have faith that Bacher is the man.

Christopher Bailey
christopher_bailey@yahoo.com



From christopher_bailey at yahoo.com  Sat Oct 21 20:57:30 2006
From: christopher_bailey at yahoo.com (Christopher Bailey)
Date: Thu Oct 26 08:55:40 2006
Subject: [NU Sports] plaudits from fellow Conference members
Message-ID: <20061022015730.32936.qmail@web60311.mail.yahoo.com>

I suspect you're right, Mike.

I'm also of the opinion that all other Conference members should
be writing checks to N Club in gratitude.

:-)

Christopher Bailey
christopher_bailey@yahoo.com

------------------------------

From: Mike Nolan <nolan@romaine.tssi.com>

If it comes from MSU fans, just remind them that we probably saved
John L. Smith's job for another year.

From thiegs at umn.edu  Thu Oct 26 10:01:10 2006
From: thiegs at umn.edu (Joe Thiegs)
Date: Thu Oct 26 10:01:15 2006
Subject: [NU Sports] Any bigger?
In-Reply-To: <20061021194518.29490.qmail@web60311.mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <002001c6f90f$92c6b700$fb326580@mnfound.umn.edu>

No one has come back to beat ANYONE by more, EVER in the history of Div. I-A
college football.  The old record was 31 points, when Minnesota blew a 31-0
lead over Ohio State in 1989 (that tied the blown lead record set in a
Maryland-Miami game in the mid-80s).

 

Here's a link to an interesting take on NU's crushing loss:

 

'89 Gophers are off the hook

http://www.twincities.com/mld/twincities/sports/columnists/charley_walters/1
5832759.htm

 

-Joe

 

P.S.  As painful as that loss was to witness (we came back for Homecoming
and everything!), I still feel better about our team after last Saturday's
game than I did after every other game this year except the opening win at
Miami of Ohio.  So I think there is at least some bright side too.

 

-----Original Message-----
From: nwu-sports-bounces@tssi.com [mailto:nwu-sports-bounces@tssi.com] On
Behalf Of Christopher Bailey
Sent: Saturday, October 21, 2006 2:45 PM
To: nwu-sports@tssi.com
Subject: [NU Sports] Any bigger?

 

Has anyone come back from more to beat NU?

 

On the bright side, I felt as confident (in the first half) as I

did for a good chunk of last season.  I'm numb right now, but I

have faith that Bacher is the man.

 

Christopher Bailey

christopher_bailey@yahoo.com

 

 

 

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From NEONRye at aol.com  Thu Oct 26 12:42:38 2006
From: NEONRye at aol.com (NEONRye@aol.com)
Date: Thu Oct 26 12:42:48 2006
Subject: [NU Sports] WARNING
Message-ID: <cd7.137c052.32724d8e@aol.com>

By the way, the point spread in today's NY POST on the upcoming game at  "The 
Big House" is 33.  Yesterday it was 34, so I guess the "Big  Money" is 
starting to shift to the Purple and White.
 
Paul Levinson
From rstetson at capps-assoc.com  Thu Oct 26 12:54:48 2006
From: rstetson at capps-assoc.com (Roy Lamberton)
Date: Thu Oct 26 12:54:43 2006
Subject: [NU Sports] WARNING
In-Reply-To: <cd7.137c052.32724d8e@aol.com>
Message-ID: <003c01c6f927$d4a59520$6701a8c0@DAVIDXP>

Isn't that called "hedging you bets?"

Maybe the big money is looking at the first half of last week's game saying,
hmmmmm, the spread is too wide.

rsl

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======== Go Cats -  Beat 'em All ===========
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============================================
 so I guess the "Big  
> Money" is 
> starting to shift to the Purple and White.

From rstetson at capps-assoc.com  Thu Oct 26 12:58:34 2006
From: rstetson at capps-assoc.com (Roy Lamberton)
Date: Thu Oct 26 12:58:48 2006
Subject: [NU Sports] NU Sports News Digest for 10/25
Message-ID: <003d01c6f928$5ba6bd60$6701a8c0@DAVIDXP>

www.PurpleWildcats.com
for Purple Reign & the NU Sports List

Midweek Catch up Edition

                                      All the News that Fits We Link
                                       Your Index to on-line News about
                                       Northwestern University Athletics

FOOTBALL

     Learning from a nightmare
 
http://chicagosports.chicagotribune.com/sports/college/northwestern/cs-061024023
6oct24,1,1469451.story?coll=cs-college-nwestern-print
     + Matchup: Wildcats vs. Wolverines
 
http://chicagosports.chicagotribune.com/sports/college/northwestern/cs-061025num
atchup,1,1330650.storylink?coll=cs-college-nwestern-print

     Wildcats lack defensive leaders
 
http://chicagosports.chicagotribune.com/sports/college/northwestern/cs-061024022
2oct24,1,7437823.story?coll=cs-college-nwestern-print
     + NU searches to replace Roach
      http://www.suntimes.com/sports/colleges/108175,CST-SPT-nunt24.article
     + Fitz Yo Drop It Like It's 'Hot' (Football)
 
http://www.dailynorthwestern.com/news/2006/10/26/Sports/Fitz-Yo.Drop.It.Like.Its
.hot.football-2403844.shtml
     + NU banking on QB Bacher
 
http://sports.yahoo.com/ncaaf/news;_ylt=AoPhPA6NOv5s2T0o1dGtBfa81LYF?slug=uwire-
nubankingonqbbacher&prov=uwire&type=lgns

     Ross Lane: Lane catches on for Wildcats
 
http://chicagosports.chicagotribune.com/sports/college/northwestern/cs-061027col
footnu,1,5791705.htmlstory?coll=cs-college-nwestern-print

     C.J. Bacher: Bacher's QB play a highlight
 
http://chicagosports.chicagotribune.com/sports/college/northwestern/cs-061023009
1oct23,1,486408.story?coll=cs-college-nwestern-print
     + Amid rubble, Cats find QB
      http://www.suntimes.com/sports/colleges/108243,CST-SPT-nu24.article
     + Bacher boost earns him another start
      http://www.dailyherald.com/sports/northwestern.asp?id=241852
     + NU s Bacher to start again at QB against Michigan
 
http://www.nwherald.com/articles/2006/10/24/sports/college/northwestern/doc453de
4909bbdc199292411.txt

     Tyrell Sutton: Hilton Garden Inn Athlete of the Week
      http://nusports.cstv.com/genrel/102306aab.html

     NU Game Notes (vs. Michigan)
 
http://www.fansonly.com/photos/schools/nw/sports/m-footbl/auto_pdf/numichigan200
6notes.pdf
     + Inside Slant
      http://msn.foxsports.com/cfb/teamReport?categoryId=86065&type=InsideSlant
     + Notes & Quotes
 
http://msn.foxsports.com/cfb/teamReport?categoryId=86065&type=NotesAndQuotes
     + Strategy and Personnel
     Strategy and Personnel
     $ Random Thoughts: Heard around the Table
      http://northwestern.scout.com/2/583536.html

Next up for the Cats:

     10/28 @ Michigan Wolverines 11 AM ABC/ESPN
     Michigan in 2nd in BCS, but USC still in control
      http://www.suntimes.com/sports/colleges/107210,CST-SPT-nation23.article
     + FBC Northwestern Michigan Preview
 
http://www.the-dispatch.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20061025/APS/610251033&ca
chetime=5
     $ Carson Butler Embraces Change
      http://story.scout.com/a.z?s=179&p=2&c=583290
     + 'M'wide receiver charged with domestic violence
 
http://www.michigandaily.com/news/2006/10/25/Football/m.Wide.Receiver.Charged.Wi
th.Domestic.Violence-2400378.shtml
     + Court case forces difficult decision
 
http://www.michigandaily.com/news/2006/10/25/Football/Court.Case.Forces.Difficul
t.Decision-2400232.shtml
     + Left guard stays strong
 
http://media.www.michigandaily.com/media/storage/paper851/news/2006/10/26/Footba
ll/Left-Guard.Stays.Strong-2403561.shtml?sourcedomain=www.michigandaily.com&MIIH
ost=media.collegepublisher.com
     + U-M's Butler relishes opportunity as starter
 
http://www.mlive.com/wolverines/aanews/football/index.ssf?/base/sports-1/1161873
72758610.xml&coll=2
     + Carr and Michigan change for the better
 
http://www.mlive.com/sportsflash/college/index.ssf?/base/sports-20/1161812353478
10.xml&storylist=micollegefb
     + U-M will gain from working hard to beat Iowa
 
http://www.mlive.com/wolverines/grpress/football/index.ssf?/base/sports-0/116149
4104235260.xml&coll=6
     + Yes, there are a few things more important than football
 
http://www.mlive.com/wolverines/aanews/football/index.ssf?/base/sports-0/1161533
776254930.xml&coll=2
     + Arrington pleads not guilty to charge
 
http://www.mlive.com/wolverines/aanews/football/index.ssf?/base/sports-1/1151230
386273790.xml&coll=2
     + Carr standing by Arrington
 
http://www.mlive.com/wolverines/weblog/index.ssf?/mtlogs/mlive_wolverines/archiv
es/2006_10.html#198138
     + Chengelis: Is Hart Heisman material?
 
http://www.detnews.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20061024/SPORTS08/610240353/11
31/SPORTS0201

RECRUITING

     Christopher Hagerup ScoutTV: Junior Highlights
      http://scout.scout.com/a.z?s=179&p=9&c=2&cid=583482&nid=2531647&fhn=1 

BASKETBALL

     Random Thoughts:Northwestern Basketball 2006
      http://northwestern.scout.com/2/583560.html 

FIELD HOCKEY

     Senior To Get Last Hurrah At All-Star Game 
 
http://www.dailynorthwestern.com/news/2006/10/26/Sports/Senior.To.Get.Last.Hurra
h.At.AllStar.Game.field.Hockey-2403868.shtml 

GOLF

     Wildcats Move Up, Finish Fourth at Big Ten/Pac-10 Challenge
      http://nusports.cstv.com/sports/m-golf/recaps/102406aad.html 

SOCCER

     Men
     Senior Day Friday as 'Cats Battle No. 24 Northern Illinois
      http://nusports.cstv.com/sports/m-soccer/spec-rel/102506aaa.html 
     + Roth Converts His Skills Into Performance
 
http://www.dailynorthwestern.com/news/2006/10/26/Sports/Roth-Converts.His.Skills
.Into.Performance.mens.Soccer-2403875.shtml 

SWIMMING

     Men
     No. 8 Northwestern Opens Season at No. 12 Indiana
      http://nusports.cstv.com/sports/m-swim/spec-rel/102606aab.html 
     Women
     Northwestern Continues Season at No. 17 Indiana
     http://nusports.cstv.com/sports/w-swim/spec-rel/102606aab.html 

VOLLEYBALL

     Northwestern Begins Second Half of Big Ten Season at Welsh-Ryan Arena
      http://nusports.cstv.com/sports/w-volley/spec-rel/102306aab.html 

WRESTLING

     Two Top-Ranked Wildcats Invited to NWCA All-Star Classic
      http://nusports.cstv.com/sports/m-wrestl/spec-rel/102306aaa.html 

MISCELLANY

     Big Ten Network Announces Branding Committee Members
      http://nusports.cstv.com/genrel/102506aaa.html 
     Graduate Internship in Sports Marketing
      http://nusports.cstv.com/genrel/102406aah.html 
     The 'Not My Fault' Crowd
      http://www.uschamber.com/publications/weekly/commentary/061024.htm 
     Football's Great, But Other Sports Need Love
 
http://www.dailynorthwestern.com/news/2006/10/19/Sports/Footballs.Great.But.Othe
r.Sports.Need.Love-2376905.shtml 
     Win Tickets to the Historic Centennial Game Between Northwestern and
Illinois
      http://nusports.cstv.com/sports/m-footbl/spec-rel/102606aaa.html 
     NCAA weighing membership expansion to Canadian schools
 
http://rssfeeds.usatoday.com/%7Er/UsatodaycomCollegeFootball-TopStories/%7E3/415
84778/2006-10-25-ncaa-canada_x.htm 
     LSU coach arrested for assisting sports agent
      http://feeds.feedburner.com/%7Er/Foxsports/rss/CFB/%7E3/41015968/6092208 

Alumni

     D'Wayne Bates Life Lessons
 
http://www.dailynorthwestern.com/news/2006/10/26/Sports/Life-Lessons-2403854.sht
ml 

     PGA
     Luke Donald - off this week

     Nationwide Tour  Miccosukee Championship
      http://www.pgatour.com/tournaments/h083 
     + Preview
      http://www.pgatour.com/story/9754477 
     + The heat is on
      http://www.pgatour.com/story/9754477 
     Playing for a shot at Nationwide Tour Championship at The Houstonian
      http://www.pgatour.com/tournaments/h045 
     Jess Daley - Full Scorecard
      http://www.pgatour.com/players/scorecard/285331/h083/2006 
     Tom Johnson -Full Scorecard
      http://www.pgatour.com/players/scorecard/466839/h083/2006 

   2006 Football Opponents

     11/4 @ Iowa Hawkeyes
     11/11 Ohio State [Lasalle Bank Day]
     Tressel says he's not interested in the NFL
 
http://www.freep.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20061026/SPORTS06/610260399/1054

     11/18 Illinois Fighting Illini [Senior Day]
     Illinois suspends McBride
      http://www.dailyherald.com/sports/illinois.asp?id=241845 
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From rstetson at capps-assoc.com  Fri Oct 27 11:24:26 2006
From: rstetson at capps-assoc.com (Roy Lamberton)
Date: Fri Oct 27 11:24:48 2006
Subject: [NU Sports] NU Sports News Digest for 10/26
Message-ID: <000401c6f9e4$6000e950$6701a8c0@DAVIDXP>

www.PurpleWildcats.com
for Purple Reign & the NU Sports List


Friday Weekend Previews Edition

                                      All the News that Fits We Link
                                        Your Index to on-line News about
                                       Northwestern University Athletics

FOOTBALL

     Northwestern Hits the Road, Faces No. 2 Michigan in Ann Arbor
      http://nusports.cstv.com/sports/m-footbl/spec-rel/102306aaa.html 
     + Is C.J. Bach?r The Man?
 
http://www.dailynorthwestern.com/news/2006/10/27/Gameday/Is.C-j.Bachr.The.Man-24
06741.shtml 
     + Northwestern couldn?t escape cold, hard facts
      http://www.dailyherald.com/sports/northwestern.asp?id=243080 
     + NU s Bacher to start again at QB against Michigan
 
http://www.nwherald.com/articles/2006/10/24/sports/college/northwestern/doc453de
4909bbdc199292411.txt 
     + Haymaker
 
http://www.pioneerlocal.com/evanston/sports/112841,mg-nufbl-102606-s1.article 
     + Fitzgerald returns to Big House
 
http://www.michigandaily.com/news/2006/10/27/Football/Fitzgerald.Returns.To.Big.
House-2406278.shtml 
     + Behind enemy lines: WR Shawn Herbert
 
http://www.michigandaily.com/news/2006/10/27/Football/Behind.Enemy.Lines.Wr.Shaw
n.Herbert-2406312.shtml 
     + 30-point underdog at No. 2 Michigan
 
http://www.freep.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20061027/SPORTS06/610270451/1054

     + Tough-luck Northwestern meets Michigan
      http://www.mercurynews.com/mld/mercurynews/sports/15857576.htm 
     + Hamnik Northwestern can't afford another 'gift'
 
http://nwitimes.com/articles/2006/10/27/columnists/al_hamnik/d2a59510d350ae9e862
572120004fdb8.txt 
     + NU's LB Roach gone from team
 
http://sports.yahoo.com/ncaaf/news;_ylt=AkSqFvFyIUOxRZlmR756.Wm81LYF?slug=uwire-
nuslbroachgonefromteam&prov=uwire&type=lgns 
     WNUR Click here for the Sports Voice Podcast
      http://phobos.apple.com/WebObjects/MZStore.woa/wa/viewPodcast?id=202654685


Next up for the Cats:

     10/28 @ Michigan Wolverines 11 AM ESPN
     Football Tandem Named Quarterfinalists for Lott Trophy
      http://www.mgoblue.com/document_display.cfm?document_id=22526 
     + NU Hopes To Drag Down Hart
 
http://www.dailynorthwestern.com/news/2006/10/27/Gameday/Nu.Hopes.To.Drag.Down.H
art-2406748.shtml 
     + Woodley, Wolverines Are Back After Tough 2005
 
http://www.dailynorthwestern.com/news/2006/10/27/Gameday/Woodley.Wolverines.Are.
Back.After.Tough.2005-2406756.shtml 
     + Burgess Rumors Untrue
      http://michigan.scout.com/2/583636.html 
     + Wolverines prepared to dominate Northwestern
 
http://www.michigandaily.com/news/2006/10/27/Football/Wolverines.Prepared.To.Dom
inate.Northwestern-2406283.shtml 
     + Rocking the Crable
 
http://www.michigandaily.com/news/2006/10/27/Football/Rocking.The.Crable-2406202
.shtml 
     + Two-minute drill
 
http://www.detnews.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20061026/SPORTS0201/610260413/
1131 
     + The Wolverines can only lose against Northwestern Wildcats
      http://www.theonlinewire.com/articleView.aspx?ID=1848 
     + Northwestern-Michigan Preview
      http://msn.foxsports.com/cfb/story/6094056 
     + Notes & Quotes
 
http://msn.foxsports.com/cfb/teamReport?categoryId=86059&type=NotesAndQuotes 
     + Strategy and Personnel
 
http://msn.foxsports.com/cfb/teamReport?categoryId=86059&type=StrategyAndPersonn
el 
     + Inside Slant
      http://msn.foxsports.com/cfb/teamReport?categoryId=86059&type=InsideSlant 
     + Wary Michigan emphasizing 'cruise' control
 
http://chicagosports.chicagotribune.com/sports/columnists/cs-061022greenstein,1,
4462559.column?coll=cs-college-utility 

Big 10 etc.

     Fearless predictions for every game
      http://feeds.feedburner.com/%7Er/Foxsports/rss/CFB/%7E3/20452327/173612 


RECRUITING

     Story about an upcoming team
     Colin Armstrong With the game on the line, Lacey's the man
 
http://prepsports.stltoday.com/ssi/prep/stories2007.nsf/football/story/FE4699D7F
E48F5AE862572130013FF98?OpenDocument 

BASKETBALL

     Women
     Big Ten Announces Bracket Changes for Women's Basketball Tournament
      http://bigten.cstv.com/sports/w-baskbl/spec-rel/102606aaa.html 

SOCCER

     Men
     Senior Day Friday as 'Cats Battle No. 24 Northern Illinois
      http://nusports.cstv.com/sports/m-soccer/spec-rel/102506aaa.html 
     Women
     'Cats Travel to Wisconsin for Regular-Season Final
      http://nusports.cstv.com/sports/w-soccer/spec-rel/102606aac.html 

TENNIS

     Doubles Pair Gains Entry into ITA National Indoor Championships
      http://nusports.cstv.com/sports/w-tennis/spec-rel/102706aab.html 

MISCELLANY

     Win Tickets to the Historic Centennial Game Between Northwestern and
Illinois
      http://nusports.cstv.com/sports/m-footbl/spec-rel/102606aaa.html 
     Hey Fox, just show us the game!
      http://www.theoaklandpress.com/stories/102706/spo_2006102737.shtml 
     Northwestern University Team Wins Dell-Microsoft National ...
      http://biz.yahoo.com/prnews/061026/clth091.html?.v=29 

Alumni

     Josh Lewin Found amid the rubble in KC: Marques Harris
      http://www.chargers.com/news/headlines/found-amid-the.htm 

     PGA
     Luke Donald - off this week
     Nationwide Tour  Miccosukee Championship
      http://www.pgatour.com/tournaments/h083 
     Playing for a shot at Nationwide Tour Championship at The Houstonian
      http://www.pgatour.com/tournaments/h045 

     Jess Daley - Full Scorecard
      http://www.pgatour.com/players/scorecard/285331/h083/2006 
     Tom Johnson -Full Scorecard
      http://www.pgatour.com/players/scorecard/466839/h083/2006 

   2006 Football Opponents

     11/4 @ Iowa Hawkeyes
     11/11 Ohio State [Lasalle Bank Day]
     11/18 Illinois Fighting Illini [Senior Day]
     Illinois' renovated 'D' progresses
 
http://chicagosports.chicagotribune.com/sports/college/illinois/cs-061026illini,
1,2895309.story?coll=cs-college-headlines 
     + Red zone? A breeze. Getting there? Tough 
 
http://chicagosports.chicagotribune.com/sports/college/illinois/cs-061026colfbil
lini,1,2182559.story?coll=cs-college-headlines 

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From WildElk2 at aol.com  Sat Oct 28 09:17:13 2006
From: WildElk2 at aol.com (WildElk2@aol.com)
Date: Sat Oct 28 09:17:26 2006
Subject: [NU Sports] Cat Commentary
Message-ID: <cf0.4a56ad.3274c069@aol.com>

I, like all our list,  was mortified by last week's  result.  I watched the 
replay on ESPN Classic, and everything that could go  wrong did. Turnovers, 
poor special teams play, a porous defense, bad  luck, and the offense clammed up.
   With that said, it's a new week, and at 2-6, losing to Purdue  and 
Michigan St., the time is officially here to sacrifice wins this year vs.  increased 
playing time for people like Phillips and McManis.  As we all  know, we're 
young to begin with, so there isn't too many young, untested players  to get 
ready.  Another change should be on special teams. It's time for  Howells to sit.
   Coaching changes:  McGee hasn't been a Steve Spurrier,  but what with all 
that's happened, he deserves more than one year.   However,  Colby has been 
given 4 years with 2 HC and still the same  result.  I know Heinz and Roach's 
absences have hurt, but we've been bad on  defense since...with the exception of 
2003, for one hell of a long time. I'm not  savvy enough to figure out if 
Brown needs a new job, but the weaknesses on  defense have persisted for quite 
some time.
   Offensive Line:  make no changes, despite inconsistent  play.  Injuries 
have had this unit shuffling around people all year, as  well as a non-existent 
passing threat (until last week).  BTW: In the 4th  Q. at the 50 yard line 
right before the blocked punt, we ran the ball on 3rd and  2.  In the 3rd Q. on 
3rd and 2, we ran the ball as Spart sold out on  stopping the run; 8,9 men in 
the box.  OK, we didn't make it; credit the  defense.  
   But 1 quarter later; same situation; 8 men in the box; we call  the same 
play?  YIKES! Maybe in the maturation process, Bacher would call  time in the 
next situation like that. But it was a bad call to begin with.   Enough of 
that...
   Michigan game:  I'm really interested in this game from  an offensive 
perspective.  I want to see us score at least 17 points and  maintain decent 
drives.  Bacher will be passing, as Mich. gives up an  average of 34 yards on the 
ground.  I think Michigan will be flat as  pancakes, but still win easily; I'll 
say 38-17.  This game opened as MU 34  point favorites; it was 29.5 last 
night, so the betting public thinks that NU  will score some points today.
 
   Still trusting the plan,    GO  CATS!!!         Eric
From johnl at mac.com  Sat Oct 28 11:45:18 2006
From: johnl at mac.com (John Labbe)
Date: Sat Oct 28 11:45:22 2006
Subject: [NU Sports] UM 4th Down Conversion--Nonsense
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I think we got robbed on that 4th down conversion.  It would have been huge to have stopped Michigan right there.  They have the balls to go for it on fourth down, and they fumble it backward, but the refs say "forward progress"---give me a break!

From HUDHAIFA3 at aol.com  Sat Oct 28 12:26:40 2006
From: HUDHAIFA3 at aol.com (HUDHAIFA3@aol.com)
Date: Sat Oct 28 12:26:50 2006
Subject: [NU Sports] UM 4th Down Conversion--Nonsense
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Yeah great call refs.
Just like at the end of the first half holding penalty. We had a 2nd and 3  
then it turns into a 2nd and 13. 
Just give them the game.
From neonrye at aol.com  Sat Oct 28 13:36:26 2006
From: neonrye at aol.com (neonrye@aol.com)
Date: Sat Oct 28 13:36:30 2006
Subject: [NU Sports] Our "D"
Message-ID: <8C8C8D71C17D91B-E44-37B5@WEBMAIL-MC02.sysops.aol.com>

Whatever the final result--and with a little over 9:00 to go, it looks like an "L" will be posted, down 17-3 and showing little "O"--our defense (sans Roach) has been absolutely magnificent. Stops on 3rd, and 4th down (except for bad spots), turnovers, swarming to the ball, you name it.  I finally have a glimmer of hope for next year, if Bacher learns to look off his primary receiver, and also to deliver the ball sooner--and if we get some pass-blocking.  This is one of our best efforts of the season, so we can't be too upset--especially after last Saturday's debacle.
 
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From tbng at comcast.net  Sat Oct 28 14:15:59 2006
From: tbng at comcast.net (Dennis W. Brandt)
Date: Sat Oct 28 14:16:03 2006
Subject: [NU Sports] Our "D"
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> our defense (sans Roach) has been absolutely magnificent. Stops on 3rd, 
> and 4th down (except for bad spots), turnovers, swarming to the ball, you 
> name it.  I finally have a glimmer of hope for next year,

I hope you're right, and the Cats appeared to play a gutty game.  But I am 
dubious that this game offered proof that we will have a good defense next 
season.  (May I please be wrong.)  I think what we saw today was an 
uninspired Michigan offense playing conservatively in deference to horrible 
weather conditions and a defense that knew it could stop us at will.  Their 
DL was embarrassingly better than our OL. 

From rstetson at capps-assoc.com  Sat Oct 28 16:30:03 2006
From: rstetson at capps-assoc.com (Roy Lamberton)
Date: Sat Oct 28 16:29:55 2006
Subject: [NU Sports] Our "D"
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Well....

I think we saw a glimmer of the younger LBs activity in both a 3-4 and 4-3
lineup. More speed coming from the frosh, plus further development by John Gill
and Adam Hahn may cause a rethinking of the 3-4, or maybe the conversion of Hahn
to DE, but who knows...

I would really like our younger linebackers to continue to step up - Simpson [8
tackles] showed how important the Will LB is in our system, and that he is a
good bet to be a fixture there for a year or two. NU's 3-4 makes Smith into
another linebacker and he led the team in tackles. Gill and Wootton both had
TFL's, Corey also forced a fumble.

NU is coming back from a very deep hole defensively. Our overall talent gets
better every year and I can see improvements over last year as this season
progresses.

But those who were upset last week can now see the difference that Fast Eddie's
speed makes in the play of the Will LB.

rsl

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  But I am 
> dubious that this game offered proof that we will have a good 
> defense next 
> season.  (May I please be wrong.)  I think what we saw today was an 
> uninspired Michigan offense playing conservatively in 
> deference to horrible 
> weather conditions and a defense that knew it could stop us 
> at will.  Their 
> DL was embarrassingly better than our OL. 
> 
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From neonrye at aol.com  Sat Oct 28 17:41:57 2006
From: neonrye at aol.com (neonrye@aol.com)
Date: Sat Oct 28 17:42:03 2006
Subject: [NU Sports] Our "D"
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Can't say I disagree with anything you said, but I am trying to find the silver lining in a giant cloud of a season. 
 
 
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Subject: Re: [NU Sports] Our "D"


> our defense (sans Roach) has been absolutely magnificent. Stops on 3rd, > and 4th down (except for bad spots), turnovers, swarming to the ball, you > name it. I finally have a glimmer of hope for next year, 
 
I hope you're right, and the Cats appeared to play a gutty game. But I am dubious that this game offered proof that we will have a good defense next season. (May I please be wrong.) I think what we saw today was an uninspired Michigan offense playing conservatively in deference to horrible weather conditions and a defense that knew it could stop us at will. Their DL was embarrassingly better than our OL.  
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From jeffb at hilgraeve.com  Sat Oct 28 20:27:27 2006
From: jeffb at hilgraeve.com (Jeff Beamsley)
Date: Sat Oct 28 20:28:21 2006
Subject: [NU Sports] Our "D"
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Happy to help you find the silver lining.

1. We have a QB.

Hopefully he didn't get too seriously dinged toward the end of the game, but
he showed a lot of guts out there.  He made mistakes, but those are the sort
of mistakes that we would rather him make this season as he learns his
position.

2. We have a defense

It may not be the best in the league, but they were flying around today.
They stuffed the run on a team that would gladly have run on every down.

3. We can play in this league

The mistakes of a young QB are going to continue to make it difficult to win
this year, but we can definitely field a team that is going to compete. 

4. We can play four quarters

This team was out there competing the whole game today.  I'm really looking
forward to the OSU game.  

Jeff

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Can't say I disagree with anything you said, but I am trying to find the
silver lining in a giant cloud of a season. 
 
 
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Subject: Re: [NU Sports] Our "D"


> our defense (sans Roach) has been absolutely magnificent. Stops on 
> 3rd, > and 4th down (except for bad spots), turnovers, swarming to the 
> ball, you > name it. I finally have a glimmer of hope for next year,
 
I hope you're right, and the Cats appeared to play a gutty game. But I am
dubious that this game offered proof that we will have a good defense next
season. (May I please be wrong.) I think what we saw today was an uninspired
Michigan offense playing conservatively in deference to horrible weather
conditions and a defense that knew it could stop us at will. Their DL was
embarrassingly better than our OL.  
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From rstetson at capps-assoc.com  Sat Oct 28 21:11:18 2006
From: rstetson at capps-assoc.com (Roy Lamberton)
Date: Sat Oct 28 21:11:09 2006
Subject: [NU Sports] An old story about Joe G.
Message-ID: <003001c6faff$85bbce00$6701a8c0@DAVIDXP>

>From last Tuesday... 

Joe G decides he's not interested in the Nationals.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2006/10/23/AR2006102301089.
html


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From sjtruog at yahoo.com  Sat Oct 28 22:37:58 2006
From: sjtruog at yahoo.com (SjT (Stephen J. Truog))
Date: Sat Oct 28 22:38:02 2006
Subject: [NU Sports] Big Ten bowls ...
Message-ID: <20061029033758.83649.qmail@web52915.mail.yahoo.com>

Interesting day as the bowl picture starts to shape
up. 

I was encouraged by our QB and defensive play ... part
of it may have been the weather, but I saw hustle and
a team that has most certainly not quit on the coaches
or season and that's a nice testament to Coach Fitz
after such a tough loss last week. Of course, had we
played like this on D and had a healthy CJ all year, I
think we have at least 3-4 more wins now.

Around the rest of the league, some real interesting
happenings to see if we will fill out our bowl
committments.

BCS
---
Barring a major, major, MAJOR upset, the league will
have two BCS teams this year. Michigan and Ohio State
should enter their showdown in Columbus at 11-0 and
ranked #1 and #2 for what could be the biggest Big
Game of 'em all. 

Depending on the closeness of the game and other
factors, they could meet again in the BCS title game
(remember that Oklahoma and Nebraska did not drop out
of the 1-2 matchup after late losses in recent years
and that the loser will be done on 11/18 while other
teams have 2 more weeks to lose). A close OSU loss
would especially increase chances of a repeat match.
But unless it's a total blowout, the loser still
should get a BCS at-large bid, probably from the folks
in Pasadena who really want that Rose Bowl tradition
back.

OTHER BOWLS
-----------
* WISCONSIN could still slip into a BCS bowl if the
cards fall right, but after the close escape today,
it's likely Florida for the Cheeseheads. They play PSU
and Iowa in their final two Big Ten games. Two wins
and it's a repeat visit to Orlando ... probably
against the SEC Championship loser (Tennessee probably
wins out and won't have the title game so they could
get a BCS at-large as well).

* PENN STATE is another bowl lock and if they win in
Camp Randall, could be thinking Citrus as well. But
it's more likely a trip to Tampa for the Outback Bowl,
perhaps against an old-school SEC power -- Georgia or
Bama? -- to relive those classic Sugar Bowl matchups.

* IOWA still has faint hopes of a Citrus bid if they
beat the Badgers at home, but their stock is sliding
lately and it may be a drop down to the heart of Texas
for the bumblebees for an Alamo Bowl game against
Mizzou or Texas A&M.

* PURDUE is on the bowl bubble right now with a
dangerous game at MSU next week, a tougher-than-usual
Bucket game vs. IU and trips to Illinois and Hawaii.
They should have enough to earn an Insight Bowl bid (a
shootout against Texas Tech or Okie State perhaps?),
but if they get upset along the way, they may need
that Island Trap game against Hawaii to be eligible.

* INDIANA appears to be bowl bound right now despite
those early losses to Southern Illinois and UConn.
It's a nice run and a nice story of a team rallying
around the coach ... the Michigan game is a loss, so
then they should just need a win against Minny or
Purdue (both on the road) to reach six wins. A trip to
Detroit against Central Michigan or Kent State could
be a nice cap on the season ... or if MSU makes a run,
perhaps a trip to Orlando for the Champs Bowl.

* MSU/MINNY still have hope because there'll likely be
the Champs Bowl spot open if they get to six wins (or
a Motor City trip for MSU) ... but they play each
other so that probably eliminates one, and they may
both stumble. Minnesota has no room for error, needing
to beat Iowa, MSU and Indiana. Sparty can lose the
finale at PSU, but must win the next two at home
against Purdue and Minnesota.

Should be an interesting November with three main
races: the BCS title race between Big Blue and the
Bucks, the Citrus race with Wisky/Iowa/PSU and the
bowl bubble races in West Lafayette, Bloomington (yes,
Bloomington!), East Lansing and Minneapolis.

As for NU and the Illini, we'll have the Sweet Sioux
game to play for and both teams really want to build
toward next year now that they've found their
quarterbacks of the future.

GO CATS!!!
-SjT

* * * * * * * * *
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From neonrye at aol.com  Sat Oct 28 23:32:00 2006
From: neonrye at aol.com (neonrye@aol.com)
Date: Sat Oct 28 23:32:37 2006
Subject: [NU Sports] An old story about Joe G.
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According to NY papers, he will do "color" analysis on Yankee telecasts on YES Network.
Sent from my BlackBerry? wireless handheld  

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Date: Sat, 28 Oct 2006 22:11:18 
To:"NU Sports List" <nwu-sports@tssi.com>
Subject: [NU Sports] An old story about Joe G.

>From last Tuesday... 

Joe G decides he's not interested in the Nationals.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2006/10/23/AR2006102301089.
html


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From rstetson at capps-assoc.com  Sun Oct 29 06:12:56 2006
From: rstetson at capps-assoc.com (Roy Lamberton)
Date: Sun Oct 29 06:12:57 2006
Subject: [NU Sports] An old story about Joe G.
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The Post story suggests he's waiting until Joe Torre retires next year to make a
run for the Yankee Job.

Neonrye will get free tickets to Yankee games for life.... <g>

rsl

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> -----Original Message-----
> From: neonrye@aol.com [mailto:neonrye@aol.com] 
> Sent: Sunday, October 29, 2006 12:32 AM
> To: rstetson@capps-assoc.com; NU Sports List
> Subject: Re: [NU Sports] An old story about Joe G.
> 
> 
> According to NY papers, he will do "color" analysis on Yankee 
> telecasts on YES Network. Sent from my BlackBerryR wireless handheld  
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: "Roy Lamberton" <rstetson@capps-assoc.com>
> Date: Sat, 28 Oct 2006 22:11:18 
> To:"NU Sports List" <nwu-sports@tssi.com>
> Subject: [NU Sports] An old story about Joe G.
> 
> >From last Tuesday...
> 
> Joe G decides he's not interested in the Nationals. 
> http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2006/10/2
3/AR2006102301089.
html


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From tbng at comcast.net  Sun Oct 29 06:24:42 2006
From: tbng at comcast.net (Dennis W. Brandt)
Date: Sun Oct 29 06:24:52 2006
Subject: [NU Sports] Our D yesterday
References: <20061029033758.83649.qmail@web52915.mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <002001c6fb55$36ae91c0$c402a8c0@DennisMachine>

> I was encouraged by our QB and defensive play ... Had we
> played like this on D and had a healthy CJ all year, I
> think we have at least 3-4 more wins now.

>We have a defense.  They stuffed the run on a team that would gladly have 
>run on every down.

I hope these two opinions are right, but I doubt it.  Yes, this year's 
defensive line is improved over last season against the run.  The pass rush 
remains its dismal - make that non-existent - self.  That said, let's look 
at the reality of yesterday's game.  The combination of rain and driving 
wind provided ripe conditions for an upset, so Michigan went to a 
conservative ground game, secure in the knowledge they we were never going 
to move the ball on them.  They won with an uninspired effort, and that is 
all that was required.  That approach does occasionally provide the 
ingredients for upset, but usually, like Texas-Texas Tech yesterday and 
1,000 games before it, the better team comes back in the end to frustrate 
its physically weaker opponent.  Michigan is a far, FAR more talented team 
with athletic skills and depth of which Northwestern can only dream.  Based 
on the ratings of this year's committed recruits, that will not be changing 
much next season.

Someone said that he couldn't wait for the Ohio State game.  If the weather 
conditions are favorable, we won't get within 40 points unless OSU plays 
their third-string during the second half.  If the impossible happens, I 
like my crow plucked and basted in garlic-butter sauce.  I would greatly 
enjoy eating it.

From jeffb at hilgraeve.com  Sun Oct 29 08:33:26 2006
From: jeffb at hilgraeve.com (Jeff Beamsley)
Date: Sun Oct 29 08:34:17 2006
Subject: [NU Sports] Our D yesterday
In-Reply-To: <002001c6fb55$36ae91c0$c402a8c0@DennisMachine>
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There is no question that Michigan was the better team yesterday.

It is also highly unlikely that NU will beat OSU this year.

What I saw yesterday was an NU defense that forced Michigan to put the ball
in the air because they couldn't overpower us on the ground.  In this
league, that is the first thing the virtually every defense attempts to do
with virtually every offense.  We haven't had a defense that was able to do
that since the Barnett/Fitz rose bowl years.  

I agree that the weather helped us stay in the game, but only because it
made it difficult to pass.  If our D had not been able to stuff the run, you
would have seen a blowout in Ann Arbor similar to the OSU/Minny massacre.  

Though we have a long way to go defending the pass, there was even
improvement there.  I don't think that we got any sacks, but there were
several hurries.  Henne had to scramble a number of times because everyone
was covered.  It wasn't a masterpiece, but it was solid improvement over
where we have been.  Part of that improvement is overall team speed, which
speaks to better recruiting.

I'm looking forward to the OSU game because I want to see if this D can
prove to themselves that they can play with anyone.  If so, this year will
be a building block for this success this young team will enjoy for the next
three years.   

Jeff 

-----Original Message-----
From: nwu-sports-bounces@tssi.com [mailto:nwu-sports-bounces@tssi.com] On
Behalf Of Dennis W. Brandt
Sent: Sunday, October 29, 2006 7:25 AM
To: nwu-sports@tssi.com
Subject: [NU Sports] Our D yesterday

> I was encouraged by our QB and defensive play ... Had we played like 
> this on D and had a healthy CJ all year, I think we have at least 3-4 
> more wins now.

>We have a defense.  They stuffed the run on a team that would gladly 
>have run on every down.

I hope these two opinions are right, but I doubt it.  Yes, this year's
defensive line is improved over last season against the run.  The pass rush
remains its dismal - make that non-existent - self.  That said, let's look
at the reality of yesterday's game.  The combination of rain and driving
wind provided ripe conditions for an upset, so Michigan went to a
conservative ground game, secure in the knowledge they we were never going
to move the ball on them.  They won with an uninspired effort, and that is
all that was required.  That approach does occasionally provide the
ingredients for upset, but usually, like Texas-Texas Tech yesterday and
1,000 games before it, the better team comes back in the end to frustrate
its physically weaker opponent.  Michigan is a far, FAR more talented team
with athletic skills and depth of which Northwestern can only dream.  Based
on the ratings of this year's committed recruits, that will not be changing
much next season.

Someone said that he couldn't wait for the Ohio State game.  If the weather
conditions are favorable, we won't get within 40 points unless OSU plays
their third-string during the second half.  If the impossible happens, I
like my crow plucked and basted in garlic-butter sauce.  I would greatly
enjoy eating it.

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From rstetson at capps-assoc.com  Mon Oct 30 09:41:25 2006
From: rstetson at capps-assoc.com (Roy Lamberton)
Date: Mon Oct 30 09:41:25 2006
Subject: [NU Sports] NU Sports News Digest for 10/30
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FOOTBALL

     Wildcats Hang Tough With No. 2 Wolverines
      http://nusports.cstv.com/sports/m-footbl/recaps/102806aaa.html 
     + NU can't weather storm of turnovers
 
http://chicagosports.chicagotribune.com/sports/college/cs-061028nu,1,3465290.sto
ry?coll=cs-college-headlines 
     + Northwestern-Michigan game notes
 
http://chicagosports.chicagotribune.com/sports/college/cs-061028nubits,1,4201319
.story?coll=cs-college-headlines 
     + Cats take pride in defense
 
http://chicagosports.chicagotribune.com/sports/college/cs-061029colfootnu,1,9096
93.htmlstory?coll=cs-college-headlines 
     + New position for Kadela: Leader
 
http://chicagosports.chicagotribune.com/sports/college/northwestern/cs-061027031
3oct27,1,2059277.story?coll=cs-college-nwestern-print 
     + 5 turnovers torpedo NU
      http://www.suntimes.com/sports/colleges/115572,CST-SPT-nu29.article 
     + Hayes: Bowl-less Cats want to spoil party for OSU
      http://www.suntimes.com/sports/colleges/115497,CST-SPT-nunt29.article 
     + Dragged Down In The Big House
 
http://www.dailynorthwestern.com/news/2006/10/30/Sports/Dragged.Down.In.The.Big.
House.football-2409254.shtml 
     + Wildcats Record Season-Low Rushing Total
 
http://www.dailynorthwestern.com/news/2006/10/30/Sports/Wildcats.Record.SeasonLo
w.Rushing.Total-2409260.shtml 
     + Cole Misses Game With Hamstring Injury
 
http://www.dailynorthwestern.com/news/2006/10/30/Sports/Cole-Misses.Game.With.Ha
mstring.Injury-2409278.shtml 
     + Sutton Isn't Toeing The Company Line for Cats
 
http://www.dailynorthwestern.com/news/2006/10/30/Sports/Sutton.Isnt.Toeing.The.C
ompany.Line.For.Cats-2409275.shtml 
     + Purdue Shut Out For First Time In 10 Years
 
http://www.dailynorthwestern.com/news/2006/10/30/Sports/Purdue.Shut.Out.For.Firs
t.Time.In.10.Years-2409263.shtml 
     + Fishbain: Coaching staff owes an apology
      http://www.wnur.org/sports/analysts/fishbain20061027.htm 
     + Wildcats hang tough, but No. 2 Michigan reigns
      http://www.dailyherald.com/sports/northwestern.asp?id=244240 
     + Michigan sends NU to 6th straight loss
 
http://www.nwherald.com/articles/2006/10/29/sports/college/northwestern/doc45449
0dd58ae4641812158.txt 
     + N'Western runs into brick 'Hall'
 
http://www.michigandaily.com/news/2006/10/30/Football/Nwestern.Runs.Into.Brick.h
all-2409101.shtml 

     SportsXchange: Inside Slant
      http://msn.foxsports.com/cfb/teamReport?categoryId=86065&type=InsideSlant 
     + Notes & Quotes
 
http://msn.foxsports.com/cfb/teamReport?categoryId=86065&type=NotesAndQuotes 
     + Strategy and Personnel
 
http://msn.foxsports.com/cfb/teamReport?categoryId=86065&type=StrategyAndPersonn
el 

     From the Michigan Wolverines
     Separation Saturday
      http://www.suntimes.com/sports/colleges/116757,CST-SPT-mich30.article 
     + Football Earns Homecoming Victory Over Northwestern
      http://www.mgoblue.com/document_display.cfm?document_id=22556 
     + Michigan Stays at No. 2 in BCS Poll
      http://michigan.scout.com/2/582177.html 
     + U-M Solidifies #2 Spot in AP, Coach Polls
      http://michigan.scout.com/2/582079.html 
     + Postgame Audio - Week 9: Off. Players React
      http://michigan.scout.com/2/584552.html 
     + Postgame Audio - Week 9: Def. Players React
      http://michigan.scout.com/2/584550.html 
     + Too 'd'-pendent: Offense stalls in rainy win
 
http://www.michigandaily.com/news/2006/10/30/Football/Too-dPendent.Offense.Stall
s.In.Rainy.Win-2409088.shtml 
     + Stephanie Wright:'O' must improve before OSU
 
http://www.michigandaily.com/news/2006/10/30/Football/Stephanie.Wright.o.Must.Im
prove.Before.Osu-2409093.shtml 
     + Defense cashes in on Cats' turnovers
 
http://www.michigandaily.com/news/2006/10/30/Football/Defense.Cashes.In.On.Cats.
Turnovers-2409108.shtml 
     + In wind and rain, defense keeps season on course
 
http://www.mlive.com/wolverines/aanews/football/index.ssf?/base/sports-1/1162109
371182910.xml&coll=2 
     + Talk is cheap when it comes to Michigan-Ohio State
 
http://www.mlive.com/sportsflash/college/index.ssf?/base/sports-20/1162212552262
990.xml&storylist=micollegefb 
     + MARK SNYDER Offense thrown off balance
 
http://www.freep.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20061030/SPORTS06/610300433/1054

     + U-M remains No. 2 in BCS
 
http://www.freep.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20061030/SPORTS08/610300329/1054
/SPORTS06 
     + NO. 2 MICHIGAN 17, NORTHWESTERN 3: What a rush
 
http://www.freep.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20061029/SPORTS06/610290662/1054

     +Chengelis  Wolverines methodically roll on
 
http://www.detnews.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20061029/SPORTS08/610290350/11
31/SPORTS0201 
     + Michigan recap
 
http://www.detnews.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20061030/SPORTS0201/610300340/
1131 
     + Column: Let the BCS Chaos Begin
 
http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories/F/FBC_ON_FOOTBALL_BCS_CHAOS?SITE=MIPON&SECT
ION=FOOTBALL&TEMPLATE=DEFAULT&CTIME=2006-10-29-16-37-39 
     + Wolverine defense is dominating
      http://www.theoaklandpress.com/stories/103006/spo_2006103031.shtml 
     + Defense staying strong for Michigan
 
http://www.dailypressandargus.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20061030/SPORTS/610
300311 

Next up for the Cats:

     11/4 @ Iowa Hawkeyes ESPN+
     Bowl Polling: A Look at Iowa's Bowl Future
      http://story.scout.com/a.z?s=179&p=2&c=584704 
     $ Iowa Offense Drives Team to Victory
      http://iowa.scout.com/2/584316.html 
     $ NIU Postgame: Kirk Ferentz Transcript
      http://iowa.scout.com/2/584356.html 
     + Sack time piling up for English
 
http://chicagosports.chicagotribune.com/sports/college/cs-061029colfootstate,1,3
151812.htmlstory?coll=cs-college-headlines 
     + NIU's comeback thwarted
 
http://chicagosports.chicagotribune.com/sports/college/cs-061028niu,1,2475397.st
ory?coll=cs-college-headlines 
     +'New kid' shows off his cool
 
http://www.dailyiowan.com/news/2006/10/30/Sports/new-Kid.Shows.Off.His.Cool-2408
596.shtml 
     + Ferentz: Hawkeyes need dramatic improvement
 
http://www.hawkcentral.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20061030/HAWKS0104/6103003
14/1053/HAWKS 
     + Starting linebacker arrested for assault
 
http://www.hawkcentral.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20061029/HAWKS0104/6102900
1/1053/HAWKS 
     + Glimpse of the future
 
http://gazetteonline.com/2006/10/28/Home/sportssection/iowanorthernillinoismain.
htm 
     + Fourth-down gamble pays off
      http://gazetteonline.com/2006/10/28/Home/sportssection/iowafourthdown.htm 
     + With Tate sidelined, Chandler takes over
      http://gazetteonline.com/2006/10/28/Home/sportssection/iowanotebook.htm 
     + IowaQB Christensen big help in recruiting
      http://gazetteonline.com/2006/10/28/Home/sportssection/iowachristensen.htm

     + Change of heart for Ferentz
      http://gazetteonline.com/2006/10/25/Home/sportssection/instantreplay.htm 
     + Tate sitting one out
      http://gazetteonline.com/2006/10/24/Home/sportssection/tatethumb.htm 
     + Chances are, Iowa on TV - somewhere
 
http://www.desmoinesregister.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20061030/SPORTS02050
2/610300348/1003/SPORTS 

Big 10 etc.

     SjT View from - BCS Bowling after NU-UM
      http://northwestern.scout.com/2/584459.html 
     One more win could end 13-year curse - Hoosiers in position for first bowl
in over a decade
 
http://nwitimes.com/articles/2006/10/30/sports/college_sports/af90fe93589c67f686
25721600805cdb.txt 
     Statements Made in Week Five
      http://bigten.cstv.com/sports/m-footbl/spec-rel/102806aaa.html 

RECRUITING

     DT Jordain Brown Watch Video
      javascript: OpenMediaPlayer(
'http://scout.scout.com/a.z?s=179&p=11&&nid=2515659&playlist=' + 
     escape('http://scout.scout.com/asxplaylist.aspx?s=179&mediaids=327330') ) 

BASKETBALL

     Men
     Ohio State Named Men's Basketball Preseason Favorite by Media
      http://bigten.cstv.com/sports/m-baskbl/spec-rel/102906aab.html 
     Women
     Ohio State a Unanimous Big Ten Women's Basketball Preseason Favorite by
Coaches and Media
      http://bigten.cstv.com/sports/w-baskbl/spec-rel/102906aaa.html 

CROSS COUNTRY

     'Cats Compete at Big Ten Cross Country Championships
      http://nusports.cstv.com/sports/w-xc/recaps/102906aab.html 
     + Big Ten Women's Cross Country Championships Release
      http://bigten.cstv.com/sports/w-xc/spec-rel/102506aaa.html 

FENCING

     Wildcats Enjoy Successful Remenyik Open
      http://nusports.cstv.com/sports/w-fenc/recaps/102906aaa.html 

FIELD HOCKEY

     Wildcats Drop Final Regular-Season Contest, 3-1, to Michigan
      http://nusports.cstv.com/sports/w-fieldh/recaps/102906aab.html 

SOCCER

     Men
     NU is the #5 Seed
     2006 Men's Soccer Championship Bracket Set
      http://nusports.cstv.com/sports/m-soccer/spec-rel/102906aab.html 

     Women
     Field Set For 2006 Big Ten Women's Soccer Tournament
      http://nusports.cstv.com/sports/w-soccer/spec-rel/102906aaa.html 
     + Badgers Top 'Cats in Regular-Season Finale, 5-0
      http://nusports.cstv.com/sports/w-soccer/recaps/102706aab.html 

SWIMMING

     Men
     No. 8 Wildcats Open Season with 163.5-136.5 Victory Over No. 12 Hoosiers
      http://nusports.cstv.com/sports/m-swim/recaps/102706aaa.html 
     Women
     'Cats Fall at No. 17 Indiana, 170-124
      http://nusports.cstv.com/sports/w-swim/recaps/102706aaa.html 

TENNIS

     Doubles Pair Gains Entry into ITA National Indoor Championships
      http://nusports.cstv.com/sports/w-tennis/spec-rel/102706aab.html 

VOLLEYBALL

     Wildcats Dispatch Wolverines, 3-2, Behind Chelsy Hyser's School-Record 15
Blocks
      http://nusports.cstv.com/sports/w-volley/recaps/102806aab.html 

MISCELLANY

     N. Colorado president stresses rules to athletes
      http://sports.espn.go.com/espn/wire?section=ncf&id=2643216 

Alumni

     PGA
     Luke Donald - off this week

     Nationwide Tour  Miccosukee Championship
      http://www.pgatour.com/tournaments/h083 
     Results And Earnings
      http://www.pgatour.com/tournaments/h083/results 

     Playing for a shot at Nationwide Tour Championship at The Houstonian
      http://www.pgatour.com/tournaments/h045 
     Jess Daley - Full Scorecard  finishes 22nd on money list
      http://www.pgatour.com/players/scorecard/285331/h083/2006 
     Tom Johnson -Full Scorecard finishes 77th on money list
      http://www.pgatour.com/players/scorecard/466839/h083/2006 

   2006 Football Opponents

     11/11 Ohio State [Lasalle Bank Day]
     Greenstein: Buckeyes go for the throat
 
http://chicagosports.chicagotribune.com/sports/columnists/cs-061029greenstein,1,
1508845.column?coll=cs-college-headlines 
     + Myslenski: Columbus eyes 2 title voyages
 
http://chicagosports.chicagotribune.com/sports/columnists/cs-061029myslenski,1,5
091470.column?coll=cs-college-headlines 
     + Buckeyes keep rolling
      http://www.suntimes.com/sports/colleges/116121,CST-SPT-osu29.article 

     11/18 Illinois Fighting Illini [Senior Day]
     Illini Nearly Upset Badgers
      http://story.scout.com/a.z?s=179&p=2&c=584718 
     + Illini coaches had hope for last-ditch play
 
http://chicagosports.chicagotribune.com/sports/columnists/cs-061029colfootillini
,1,1316830.htmlstory?coll=cs-college-headlines 
     + Hoosiers duo explodes
      http://www.suntimes.com/sports/colleges/116115,CST-SPT-msu29.article 

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From sjtruog at yahoo.com  Mon Oct 30 21:40:54 2006
From: sjtruog at yahoo.com (SjT (Stephen J. Truog))
Date: Mon Oct 30 21:41:09 2006
Subject: [NU Sports] PIGSKIN PICKS - Week 10
Message-ID: <20061031034054.3294.qmail@web52910.mail.yahoo.com>

Standings will hopefully be out tomorrow - but in the
meantime, we have a big game in the Big East this week
on Thursday night, so I wanted to get the lineup out
ASAP.

Interesting week - not as big as that showdown
Saturday earlier this year, but we still had some big
games that didn't make the list -- Nebraska vs.
Missouri's game to see who backs into the Big XII
title game and a prime-time UCLA-Cal game for example
-- so it should be a fine Saturday of pigskin
watchin'. And while the Big Ten slate may not be as
marquee as Nov. 18 will be, the PSU-Wisky game could
be for a trip to Orlando while MSU-Purdue could be a
for a bowl trip period, so there's a lot still at
stake.

Remember, picks due by THURSDAY kickoff!

PIGSKIN PICKS - WEEK 10
#######################
Name: 

BIG TEN
=======
Game  1: Ohio State @ Illinois
Winner: 

Game  2: Indiana @ Minnesota
Winner: 

Game  3: Ball State @ Michigan
Winner: 

Game  4: Purdue @ Michigan State
Winner: 

Game  5: Penn State @ Wisconsin
Winner: 

NATIONAL
========
Game  6: West Virginia @ Louisville
Winner: 

Game  7: LSU @ Tennessee
Winner: 

Game  8: Oklahoma @ Texas A&M
Winner: 

Game  9: Boston College @ Wake Forest
Winner: 

Game 10: Virginia Tech @ Miami (FL)
Winner: 

MY PICKS
========
* OHIO STATE 42, Illinois 10
C: The Illini might be in it for a quarter, but these
Bucks seem to keep focus on one game at a time and
Tressel has them ready each week. No overlooking here.

* MINNESOTA 24, Indiana 23
C: The Gophers have had some hard-luck losses and are
due for a win ... the Hoosiers are on a good-vibe roll
and due for a crash.

* MICHIGAN 35, Ball State 0
C: The Wolverines may have looked sloppy last week,
but they'll get that focus back with more nasty D and
a boost in O from the return of Manningham.

* MICHIGAN STATE 39, Purdue 37
C: So tough to call this game - will Sparty collapse
after the IU debacle and what's sure to be an
unfriendly welcome home? Probably, but the only more
certain bet is that Purdue's kicker will miss a
clutch-time kick to win it.

* WISCONSIN 20, Penn State 17
C: This could be the game of the day in the league
with a trip to Orlando likely on the line. The Badgers
were exposed a bit last week and PSU's D is solid with
their O improving ... but it's tough to pick against
Bucky in Camp Randall.

* LOUISVILLE 27, West Virginia 24
C: Free pizza all around! And the BCS nightmare gets
more real as a 1-loss team probably wouldn't have
leapfrogged the Mountaineers, but the Cardinals ...
well, down with the BCS!!! Louisville wants revenge
after blowing last year's game and at home under the
lights, a frenzied redbird crowd gets to go wild.

* TENNESSEE 14, LSU 10
C: Should be a heck of a game in Rocky Top with the
Tigers a very dangerous spoiler to Tennessee's BCS
hopes, but the Vols hanging on for a thrillah late.

* TEXAS A&M 35, Oklahoma 31
C: Sooner or later, the Sooners gotta slip up without
AP, right? The Aggies still control their fate with
three whopper games to close the Big XII slate. They
get a big win at home here and start to get illusions
that they can beat the Horns.

* BOSTON COLLEGE 30, Wake Forest 20
C: The Eagles slipped up earlier on Tobacco Row and
won't drop the ball again.

* VIRGINIA TECH 22, Miami 12
C: The only more uncomfortable seat than John L.'s in
East Lansing may be Larry Coker's in Miami -- the
gobblers aren't afraid of the thugs and Miami mystique
and roll over the self-destructing Canes now.

BTW, watching Miami and FSU implode this year after
years of questionable character in building
thug-driven programs? Priceless.

And off the board ...

* IOWA 26, Northwestern 14
C: It could be a close one again with the Hawkeyes
banged up and NU playing much, much better with
Bacher, but Ferentz has had our number and wants
revenge after letting that one slip away in Evanston
last year.

Remember ... picks in THURSDAY!
GO CATS!!!
-SjT

* * * * * * * * *
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From rstetson at capps-assoc.com  Tue Oct 31 12:59:56 2006
From: rstetson at capps-assoc.com (Roy Lamberton)
Date: Tue Oct 31 13:02:14 2006
Subject: [NU Sports] NU Sports News Digest for 10/31
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FOOTBALL

     Northwestern Plays Final 2006 Road Game at Iowa
      http://nusports.cstv.com/sports/m-footbl/spec-rel/103006aac.html 
     + Cats hope he's worth the wait
 
http://chicagosports.chicagotribune.com/sports/college/northwestern/cs-061030col
footnu,1,1925075.story?coll=cs-college-headlines 
     + Crum leaving little doubt
      http://www.suntimes.com/sports/colleges/117540,CST-SPT-nu31.article 
     + Leg Injury Kept Sutton Out
 
http://www.dailynorthwestern.com/home/news/2006/10/31/Sports/Leg-Injury.Kept.Sut
ton.Out.football-2411742.shtml 
     + Coach sees encouraging signs in Wildcats' play
      http://www.belleville.com/mld/belleville/news/state/15887489.htm 
     + Wildcats Record Season-Low Rushing Total
 
http://www.dailynorthwestern.com/media/storage/paper853/news/2006/10/30/Sports/W
ildcats.Record.SeasonLow.Rushing.Total-2409260.shtml?norewrite200610311333&sourc
edomain=www.dailynorthwestern.com 

     Monday 2-Deep, Injuries, and ???? - 10/30
      http://northwestern.scout.com/2/585191.html 


Next up for the Cats:

     11/4 @ Iowa Hawkeyes ESPN+
     Hey, they're already thinking bowl?
     Bowl Polling: A Look at Iowa's Bowl Future
      http://story.scout.com/a.z?s=179&p=2&c=584704 
     + Iowa Remains Home
      http://hawkeyesports.cstv.com/sports/m-footbl/spec-rel/103006aaa.html 
     + Complete Release in PDF Format
 
http://www.fansonly.com/photos/schools/iowa/sports/m-footbl/auto_pdf/103006.pdf 
     + 'New kid" shows off his cool
      http://www.dailyiowansports.com/football/ 
     + Sellout doesn't mean Kinnick is full
 
http://www.hawkcentral.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20061031/HAWKS0104/6103103
13/1053/HAWKS 
     + Tate listed as Saturday starter
 
http://www.hawkcentral.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20061030/HAWKS0104/6103000
1/1053/HAWKS 
     + Ferentz: Hawkeyes need dramatic improvement
 
http://www.hawkcentral.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20061030/HAWKS0104/6103003
14/1053/HAWKS 
     + Starting linebacker arrested for assault
 
http://www.hawkcentral.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20061029/HAWKS0104/6102900
1/1053/HAWKS 
     + Glimpse of the future
 
http://gazetteonline.com/2006/10/28/Home/sportssection/iowanorthernillinoismain.
htm 
     + Hlas: Jake, not rattled, rolls
      http://gazetteonline.com/2006/10/28/Home/sportssection/iowahlas.htm 
     + Tate will face Wildcats after one-game absence
 
http://www.desmoinesregister.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20061031/SPORTS02050
2/610310380/1003/SPORTS 
     + Ferentz says Hawkeyes still have much to play for
 
http://www.hawkmania.com/articles/2006/10/31/football/doc4542c13540db1242061374.
txt 

Big 10 etc.

     Big Ten Weekly Football Release - Oct. 30
      http://bigten.cstv.com/sports/m-footbl/spec-rel/103006aad.html 

RECRUITING

     Arnold Ready to Reconsider - or Reaffirm?
      http://story.scout.com/a.z?s=179&p=2&c=585022 

BASKETBALL

     Men
     First game is November 10 against Cornell
     Men's Basketball 2006-07 Outlook
      http://cornellbigred.cstv.com/sports/m-baskbl/spec-rel/101306aaa.html 
     + Mark Vershaw Named Assistant Men's Basketball Coach
      http://cornellbigred.cstv.com/sports/m-baskbl/spec-rel/080406aaa.html 
     + Men's Basketball Announces Six Additions To Class of 2010
      http://cornellbigred.cstv.com/sports/m-baskbl/spec-rel/060106aaa.html 
     + Trying to Bear With a Big Red Identity Crisis
      http://www.cornellsun.com/node/19361 

     Women
     2006 Big Ten Media Day
      http://nusports.cstv.com/sports/w-baskbl/spec-rel/103106aaa.html 
     + Purple Hair Dare on January 7!
      http://nusports.cstv.com/sports/w-baskbl/spec-rel/101906aaa.html 

     Big 10
     Illini's Weber licks his wounds
 
http://chicagosports.chicagotribune.com/sports/college/illinois/cs-061029illini,
1,4271568.story?coll=cs-college-headlines 

FIELD HOCKEY

     Regular Season Finale Not-So-Bright For Cats
 
http://www.dailynorthwestern.com/home/news/2006/10/31/Sports/Regular.Season.Fina
le.NotSoBright.For.Cats.field.Hockey-2411771.shtml 

SOCCER

     Men
     Brad North Named Big Ten Co-Offensive Player of the Week
      http://nusports.cstv.com/sports/m-soccer/spec-rel/103006aab.html 
     + Wildcat, Hoosier and Wolverine Named Players of the Week
      http://bigten.cstv.com/sports/m-soccer/spec-rel/103006aac.html 

     NU Earns Marquee Victory Over NIU
 
http://www.dailynorthwestern.com/home/news/2006/10/31/Sports/Nu.Earns.Marquee.Vi
ctory.Over.Niu.mens.Soccer-2411745.shtml 

     Women
     Tough Big Ten Tournament Looms After Loss
 
http://www.dailynorthwestern.com/home/news/2006/10/31/Sports/Tough.Big.Ten.Tourn
ament.Looms.After.Loss.womens.Soccer-2411768.shtml 

VOLLEYBALL

     Chelsy Hyser Named Big Ten Defensive Player of the Week
      http://nusports.cstv.com/sports/w-volley/spec-rel/103006aaa.html 
     School Record Broken In Cats' Split Weekend
 
http://www.dailynorthwestern.com/home/news/2006/10/31/Sports/School.Record.Broke
n.In.Cats.Split.Weekend.volleyball-2411760.shtml 
     Northwestern Faces Illinois Wednesday, Iowa Saturday in Road Contests
      http://nusports.cstv.com/sports/w-volley/spec-rel/103006aac.html 

WRESTLING

     2006-07 Wrestling Season Preview
      http://nusports.cstv.com/sports/m-wrestl/spec-rel/103006aac.html 

MISCELLANY

     NCAA seeks to limit sports spending
      http://www.dailysouthtown.com/sports/117861,2SPT5-31.article 

     Fan behavior still a concern
 
http://www.dailyiowan.com/news/2006/10/31/Sports/Fan-Behavior.Still.A.Concern-24
11484.shtml 

Alumni

     PGA
     Luke Donald - Actually played in Europe last week finishing 2nd at the
Volvo Masters
     + Official Scores and Prize Money
 
http://www.europeantour.com/default.sps?pagegid=%7BECF87964%2DDF48%2D4851%2DBB50
%2D27C15CC10DEE%7D&redirectorid=tournament_page&eventid=2006086&infosid=1 

     Nationwide Tour  Nationwide Tour Championship at The Houstonian - starts
Nov 6th
      http://www.pgatour.com/tournaments/h045 
     Jess Daley -
     Tom Johnson -

   2006 Football Opponents

     11/11 Ohio State [Lasalle Bank Day]
     11/18 Illinois Fighting Illini [Senior Day]

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From sjtruog at yahoo.com  Tue Oct 31 23:48:05 2006
From: sjtruog at yahoo.com (SjT (Stephen J. Truog))
Date: Tue Oct 31 23:48:24 2006
Subject: [NU Sports] PIGSKIN PICKS - Standings
Message-ID: <20061101054805.2094.qmail@web52902.mail.yahoo.com>

The weekend before Halloween didn't scare up the
standings much, but there are some big showdowns
coming up in November that could still flip the races
around a bit. To the honor roll ...

UNANIMOUS PICKS

* WISCONSIN over Illinois
* OHIO STATE over Minnesota

We had to sweat out the Badgers, but the Buckeyes
never looked threatened.

UPSET SPECIALS

* VIRGINIA TECH over Clemson: The wacky ACC continues
to provide the bulk of our upset specials this year.
The Gobbler triumph was predicted only by Bob Waldele,
Mike Whelan, Ace McInturff, Ray Stahl, Eric Steffe and
Clark Zahn.

Now to the big board ...

                     PICKS RECORD        UPSETS
LW TW  Name	     Wk 9  Overall Pct.  W9 Ovrl  Wks
=====================================================
 1  1) Trey McAdams   8-2   85-20  .810   0   2	  9
 2  2) Chris Bailey   7-3   82-23  .781   0   2   9
 2  2) Chuck Herron   7-3   82-23  .781   0   4   9
 2  2) Marilyn Zilka  7-3   82-23  .781   0   4   9
 8  5) Mark Ament     8-2   66-19  .776   0   0   7
 7  6) Ivars Embrekts ---   62-18  .775   -   2   7
 5  7) Stephen Truog  7-3   81-24  .771   0   3   9
 6  8) Brad Wilson    7-3   73-22  .768   0   2   8
11  9) Michael Vance  8-2   65-20  .765   0   1   7
12 10) Ryan Farney    8-2   80-25  .762   0   0   9
12 10) Brian Winkler  8-2   80-25  .762   0   3   9
10 12) Matt Barnard   7-3   72-23  .758   0   0   8
 9 13) Alan Wolfson   6-4   79-26  .752   0   0   9
18 14) John Hodges    9-1   78-27  .743   0   1   9
15 14) John Labbe     8-2   78-27  .743   0   1   9
18 14) Eric Steffe    9-1   78-27  .743   1   1   9
16 17) Clark Zahn     8-2   63-22  .741   1   2   7
xx 18) Carl Rossi     8-2   48-17  .738   0   6   6
14 19) Jim Bendat     6-4   70-25  .737   0   1   8
21 19) John Lieske    9-1   70-25  .737   0   3   8
18 21) Phredd Groves  8-2   77-28  .733   0   3   9
22 21) Kelly Sevilla  9-1   77-28  .733   0   2   9
24 23) Ray Stahl      9-1   76-29  .724   1   4   9
23 24) Bruce Taylor   ---   57-23  .713   -   0   7
25 25) Sam Wolfson    9-1   75-30  .714   0   2   9
16 26) Peg Wolfe      5-5   60-25  .706   0   3   7
26 27) Jim Leonard    ---   65-30  .684   -   4   8
27 28) Bob Waldele    8-2   53-27  .663   1   3   7
28 29) Ace McInturff  7-3   65-40  .619   1   7   9

Not eligible at this time (must be in 2/3 of weeks)
---------------------------------------------------
xx xx) Michael Whelan 9-1   53-12  .815   1   1   5
xx xx) Joe Thiegs     ---   44-11  .800	  -   0   4
xx xx) David Warner   ---   39-16  .709	  -   0   4
xx xx) Arthur Miller  ---   31- 9  .775   -   1   3
xx xx) Neil Kaplan    ---   26- 4  .867   -   1   2
xx xx) T. Haleas      ---   14- 1  .933	  -   0   1
xx xx) Jason Singer   ---   14- 1  .933   -   1   1
xx xx) Roger Bradshaw ---   13- 2  .867   -   0   1
xx xx) Harlan Hieber  ---   11- 4  .733   -   0	  1

And now to the rankings for this week ...

LW TW  SjTOP 25 COLLEGE RANKINGS
================================
 1  1) OHIO STATE - Looking almost unbeatable
 2  2) MICHIGAN - Mediocre effort, but still a win
 4  3) WEST VIRGINIA - Time to put up or shut up
 5  4) TEXAS - Lucky in Lubbock, but still alive
 6  5) AUBURN - Sluggish and almost blew SEC hopes
 7  6) FLORIDA - D looks dominant, but O is a mess
 8  7) TENNESSEE - Nice road win to stay in the hunt
 9  8) CALIFORNIA - Rose Bowl theirs to lose now
11  9) LOUISVILLE - Chance for BCS bid is there
 3 10) SOUTHERN CAL - Finally got burned on close call
12 11) ARKANSAS - Still control SEC title fate
13 12) NOTRE DAME - Looked bad vs. backup QB ... again
14 13) LSU - Everybody in SEC has forgotten Tigers
15 14) OKLAHOMA - Impressive win for injured OU
16 15) BOSTON COLLEGE - Are they the ACC's best now?
17 16) WISCONSIN - Dug big hole early, but won
10 17) CLEMSON - Not ready for prime time yet
18 18) BOISE STATE - Not deserving of BCS bid
19 19) GEORGIA TECH - See ya in Jacksonville
20 20) RUTGERS - Unbeaten but totally unproven
21 21) WAKE FOREST - Chance to move up vs. BC
NR 22) VIRGINIA TECH - Magic under lights continues
23 23) TEXAS A&M - Now the big part of sked begins
24 24) PENN STATE - Badger battle for a Citrus bid?
NR 25) WASHINGTON STATE - Cougin'em no more at Wazzu

DROPPED OUT: (22) Nebraska, (25) Oregon
OTHERS TO WATCH: Alabama, Georgia, Missouri,
Pittsburgh

Remember, picks in by Thursday's game!
GO CATS!!!
-SjT

* * * * * * * * *
STEPHEN J. TRUOG
sjtruog@yahoo.com
GO CATS!!!


 
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