[NU Sports] I'm Unsubscribing; I've Had Enough

[BSchooler at aol.com]

After sending this e-mail, I'm unsubscribing to this List Serve. I've been a 
subscriber since 1995 and have been among the most prolific and substantive 
contributors to this List. But over the years, my contributions have 
increasingly been met with resentment, personal attacks and, most troubling, censorship. 
Most resentful have been Mike Nolan, Stephen Truog and Roy Lamberton who think 
they have priveleged status on this List and need not adhere to the same 
standards as do the rest of us. Also unacceptable to me are: 1.) The double 
standard afforded liberals on this List, like Jim Bendat. They are allowed to attack 
conservatives, Texas, Bush, Republicans and the religious right from their 
self-ascribed position of moral superiority with relative impunity and 2.) The 
double standard afforded Randy Walker supporters on this List. Mike Nolan, 
Stephen Truog and Roy Lamberton immediately rise to stamp out any criticism of 
Randy Walker. Now that I think of it, nearly all the Randy Walker critics have 
quit this List in disgust. About fifteen of them left about three years ago and 
formed their own list serve.

But worst of all is the censorship to which I've been subjected. I should 
have unsubscribed last December when I was placed on "permanent review mode" by 
Mike Nolan for objecting privately to Mike Nolan about 1.) Jim Bendat's use of 
the term "Jesus music" and 2.) Mike Nolan's public accusation that Frank 
Loomis had fabricated a quote; an accusation that was not true.

Here's the chain of correspondence, in red, that led to the censorship 
action:

Subj: Re: [NU Sports] Dispatch from El Paso  
Date: 12/31/2005 1:46:59 PM Central Standard Time 
From: B Schooler 
To: nolan at romaine.tssi.com 

In a message dated 12/31/2005 1:04:53 PM Central Standard Time, 
thehaze at earthlink.net writes:

> I agree with everything Chuck wrote, except for 
> the country music band.  I felt their Jesus music was inappropriate, 
> particularly with the game being held on a state university campus.
> 

Mike, I am offended by the pejorative term "Jesus music". I feel this is 
political correctness run amok. I was at the game and didn't even hear a reference 
to Jesus during the performance. It was country western; nothing more. This 
is the public expression of liberal cultural bias and has no place on a 
non-sectarian public forum like your list serve. This is what happens when you 
continually look the other way when people make pejorative statements about Bush, 
Texas, conservatives and, in this case, "Jesus music". But when someone makes a 
crack about liberals, well . . .

By the way, I lived with Bendat for one year when I was a student at 
Northwestern. I now regret that I told him about the existence of your list serve. I 
could tell you some stories . . .

Bob Schooler 

Subj: Re: [NU Sports] Dispatch from El Paso  
Date: 12/31/2005 1:54:13 PM Central Standard Time 
From: nolan at romaine.tssi.com 
To: BSchooler at aol.com 
Sent from the Internet (Details) 

Computers come with delete keys.  Learn to use them and stop trying to
be the net police, you've posted more than your share of borderline or
beyond-the-line stuff.
--
Mike Nolan

Subj: Re: [NU Sports] Dispatch from El Paso  
Date: 12/31/2005 2:03:19 PM Central Standard Time 
From: B Schooler 
To: nolan at romaine.tssi.com 

In a message dated 12/31/2005 1:54:13 PM Central Standard Time, 
nolan at romaine.tssi.com writes:

> Computers come with delete keys.  Learn to use them and stop trying to
> be the net police, you've posted more than your share of borderline or
> beyond-the-line stuff.
> 

Hmmm . . . So when folks make religiously offensive remarks, we're to delete 
the message after reading the offensive remark? Doesn't seem to make a lot of 
sense. And this coming from the same person who falsely accused Frank Loomis 
just last month of making up quotes? Of course, I stuck up for Frank. And was 
punished accordingly. Same old pattern. 

Bob Schooler 

Subj: Re: [NU Sports] Dispatch from El Paso  
Date: 12/31/2005 2:22:51 PM Central Standard Time 
From: nolan at romaine.tssi.com 
To: BSchooler at aol.com 
Sent from the Internet (Details) 

> Hmmm . . . So when folks make religiously offensive remarks, we're to 
delete 
> the message after reading the offensive remark? Doesn't seem to make a lot 
of 
> sense. And this coming from the same person who falsely accused Frank 
Loomis 
> just last month of making up quotes? Of course, I stuck up for Frank. And 
was 
> punished accordingly. Same old pattern. 

Oh, please.  I DID NOT accuse Frank of making up a quote, I accused
the source he quoted of making up the quote.

Happy New Year!
--
Mike Nolan

Subj: Re: [NU Sports] Dispatch from El Paso  
Date: 12/31/2005 3:17:02 PM Central Standard Time 
From: B Schooler 
To: nolan at romaine.tssi.com 

In a message dated 12/31/2005 2:22:51 PM Central Standard Time, 
nolan at romaine.tssi.com writes:

> Oh, please.  I DID NOT accuse Frank of making up a quote, I accused
> the source he quoted of making up the quote.
> 
> 

Okay, Mike. Here's what you wrote in your December 4 email posted publicly to 
the List:

<<So, either the Rocky Mountain News writer got the facts VERY wrong, or
someone made the story up out of thin air.>>

Mike, there's no way you can escape the fact that you accused Frank Loomis of 
making the story up. It happened. It was unfortunate. Just about everyone 
gave you the benefit of the doubt, particularly Frank and me, and dropped the 
matter. But the truth of the matter is that you should privately e-mail Frank and 
apologize if you haven't already done so.

You accuse me of "posting more than your share of borderline or 
beyond-the-line stuff". Maybe that's the case. But I'd like to think that I've posted more 
than my share of provocative and informative stuff over the years. And no one 
has stuck up or been more supportive of you over the years, than me. Four 
people I can think of off the top of my head who are members of your list due to 
my referrals are: Jim Bendat, Alan Abrahamson, Mark Ament and John Scott. 

Mike, I deserve a little more respect from you after all I've contributed to 
the list and all the support I've given you personally since 1995. 
Technically, I was wrong to make the Walker crack that he must be a liberal because  . . 
. So I apologize for that. But you and everyone else, I'm sure, must have 
known that I was trying to be funny rather than make a political statement with 
that remark. Yet I get publicly slammed by you. I'm beginning to wonder if some 
things are being said behind the scenes that are not accuarate. And now Bendat 
makes a pejorative comment about "Jesus music", which truly is offensive, and 
you blow it off. 

What kind of message does that send to everyone on your List? Liberals can 
say whatever they want but conservatives can't? I don't know what your political 
viewpoint is, Mike, but one of the things that is driving political 
correctness is the notion liberals have that they are morally superior; that the end 
justifies the means when it comes to the actions and words of liberals, because, 
after all, they care more than the rest of us about the human predicament. It 
has been shown that feelings of moral superiority among one group is one of 
the most dangerous things in human history. I hope that political correctness 
isn't driving your decisions on what comments are acceptable and which comments 
are not acceptable on this List.

Happy New Year, Mike. And I mean that.

Bob Schooler  

Subj: Re: [NU Sports] Dispatch from El Paso  
Date: 12/31/2005 3:21:40 PM Central Standard Time 
From: nolan at romaine.tssi.com 
To: BSchooler at aol.com 
Sent from the Internet (Details) 

> Okay, Mike. Here's what you wrote in your December 4 email posted publicly 
to 
> the List:
> 
> <<So, either the Rocky Mountain News writer got the facts VERY wrong, or
> someone made the story up out of thin air.>>

That does NOT accuse Frank.  Frank wrote me privately that he DID NOT
think I was accusing him of making it up.  You're the only one left with
that bee in your bonnet.  I don't care one way or the other if you stay
on the list, but you are on permanent review mode, because your posts
cross the line too often.
--
Mike Nolan

After this exchange of e-mails, I think most of you will understand why I'm 
unsubscribing and, in fact, wonder why I didn't do so last December. Please 
note the recurring theme of a double standard for liberals. And by the way, I 
e-mailed Frank Loomis and he told me that Mike Nolan's statement that he (Loomis) 
"wrote me privately that he DID NOT think I was accusing him of making it up" 
is false.

I enjoyed corresponding with many of you about Northwestern sports. I've 
gotten to know some of you personally and hope to continue the relationship.

Bob Schooler