[NU Sports] Rant on broadcasting: (Was: White Sox vs. . .
.Everyone)
Roy Lamberton
rstetson at capps-assoc.com
Wed Jun 28 16:40:46 CDT 2006
No apologies here, but the absolute best Baseball PBP guys are still Vince
Scully and John Miller. Right behind are Chuck Thompson, Harry Carey [after 4 or
5 beers] and Brickhouse - there was a pretty good guy in St. Louis for years
also, Jack Buck.
NU Alum Josh Lewin was a decent PBP guy in AAA Rochester. He didn't have the
deep pipes that the Orioles like [Miller, Joe Angel] but some of his talk show
stuff was absolutely hilarious. He used his music background to produce parodies
that skewered [sic] the various foibles of sports in Baltimore.
And the funniest audio you will ever hear is Jon Miller doing a sendup of Vince
Scully during a rain delay in Baltimore. He went on for over 20 minutes about
the "zen" of baseball - if you love Scully, its fabulous. I still haven't
forgiven Peter Angelos for losing Jon here in Balto - he is truly one of a kind.
If I can find a link to the bit - it used to be on the web somewhere - I'll post
it.
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: nwu-sports-bounces at tssi.com
> [mailto:nwu-sports-bounces at tssi.com] On Behalf Of Ben Adler
> Sent: Wednesday, June 28, 2006 1:23 PM
> To: nwu-sports at tssi.com
> Subject: [NU Sports] Rant on broadcasting: (Was: White Sox
> vs. . . .Everyone)
>
>
> Yeah, as someone who spent a summer in the minors
> broadcasting baseball and loves to hear (and critique)
> broadcasters around the country, I've never heard a worse
> announcing team than Hawk Harrelson and Darren Jackson.
>
> They say "we" on the air -- a MAJOR pet peeve of mine (as a
> player once told Reds broadcaster Marty Brennaman after he
> said "we sure played well today," "how many guys did YOU
> strike out?") -- and Hawk's home run call is unprofessional
> and makes me cringe every time I hear it.
>
> But it's more than that, and I can extend this criticism in
> general to a lot of play-by-play folks ... it's not just the
> rooting on the air, but the tone of voice when the other team
> gets a big hit or big out. Talk about letting paint dry --
> the calls are so flat..."high fly, left field, gone. Sox
> lose." Or worse, "uh oh, there's trouble...Sox lose." How
> bout raising your voice for an important moment in the game?
> Keep some hollowness in your voice, since you DO work for the
> other team ... but make it a hollow excitement.
>
> Sorry, I'll get off my soapbox now. Never get a radio guy
> started on other radio guys...
>
> -- Ben
>
>
> "John A. DeGroat" <johnadeg at bellatlantic.net> wrote:
> If there is a worse announcing team than the one the White
> Sox have, I
> don't know who it is. They are the most biased announcers that I have
> ever heard and I've heard Rizzuto, Bob Prince and a few other
> homers in
> my time. I sort of liked watching the White Sox do well last year but
> couldn't stand the announcers so would hit the mute button.
>
> John DeGroat
>
> Joe Thiegs wrote:
>
> >
> >
> >As far as your misplaced loyalties, I will refrain from
> criticizing the
> >masochistic fetish that is being a Cub's fan. Chicago is slowly
> >discovering that there is a difference between soap opera
> and baseball.
> >Though I doubt that those addicted to the Cubs will ever recover,
> >you've already discovered that the next generation of baseball fans
> >prefer the
> >
> >^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
> >Sox.
> >^^^^
> >
> >
> >Yikes! I hope not! I'll stage an intervention if I ever see
> symptoms of
> >that affliction in my kids. :) In the case of our very young friend,
> >I'm afraid it is a hereditary condition. Probably incurable. I just
> >pray he can grow up to lead an otherwise normal, productive, healthy
> >life....
> >
> >FWIW, I consider the Sox to be a JV version of the Yankees
> (my second
> >most-disliked team!). Overpaid, boorish players (okay, just
> about all
> >major leaguers are overpaid, but relatively speaking, I
> mean); arrogant
> >owners; fans with chips on their shoulders who treat fans of
> any other
> >team with disdain; etc.
> >
> >I don't experience too much pain from being a Cubs fan. For
> one thing,
> >they are my secondary team and I have been rooting for them
> only about
> >half my life, so I don't feel quite the same emotional ups and downs
> >that I do depending on the Twins' performance. I just enjoy watching
> >the Cubbies and remembering great times at and around Wrigley during
> >college and the couple of years after. Secondly, I don't let my
> >expectations for the Cubs get too tremendously high--kind of
> like being
> >an NU fan before 1996. When I was at NU, I had fun at the football
> >games win or lose, and I didn't get too depressed if we lost because
> >that was what I expected. Conversely, when we won it was a
> huge thrill.
> >Since the 1995 season and the Rose Bowl (my senior year),
> however, my
> >expectations have changed, and now I actually get upset when
> we lose.
> >You know, I'm not sure which is a healthier mentality.
> >:)
> >
> >-Joe
> >
> >P.S. I'm sure Jeff knows, but for any wryness-impaired list
> members, my
> >comments equating being a White Sox fan with having a
> medical condition
> >are nothing more than a little tongue-in-cheek intra-conference
> >ribbing. Probably.
> >
> >-----Original Message-----
> >From: nwu-sports-bounces at tssi.com
> [mailto:nwu-sports-bounces at tssi.com]
> >On Behalf Of Joe Thiegs
> >Sent: Tuesday, June 27, 2006 2:20 PM
> >To: 'Ben Adler'; nwu-sports at tssi.com
> >Subject: RE: [NU Sports] Mariotti web site
> >
> >No, Ozzie bought "jaythe[something you can get in trouble
> for calling
> >someone].com". :) Honestly, I had heard snippets about a
> >Guillen-Mariotti feud over the past few days but never heard what
> >started it. I did a little research today and found out. Two
> >interesting points I noticed from the blog entries (deadspin.com and
> >jaythejoke.com):
> >
> >1) It seems that most of the public hatred is being directed at
> >Mariotti, when he was the target of Ozzie's outburst. People
> don't seem
> >to be as riled up about what Ozzie said as I might expect.
> >
> >2) Here's an excerpt from a Phil Arvia column in the Daily Southtown:
> >
> >"In the span of 102 seconds, Guillen leveled 25 words one generally
> >cannot read in a family newspaper at the Sun-Times' Jay Mariotti.
> >
> >For those scoring at home, there were 14 variations of the
> f-word, five
> >s-words, three a-words, a b-word, a G.D. and the straw that
> broke the
> >camel's back, a three-letter reference either to Mariotti's
> sexuality
> >or British slang for a cigarette."
> >
> >Is no one complaining about the other 24 vulgarities?
> >
> >Because the White Sox are the natural enemies of both my AL
> team (the
> >Twins) and my NL team (the Cubs), of course it follows that
> they are my
> >least favorite team and I root hard for them to lose all of the
> >time--the single exception being in last season's World Series, in
> >which I wanted them to uphold the honor of the AL
> Central--and Guillen
> >as manager makes it that much easier. FWIW, one of my four-year-old
> >son's favorite playmates (probably his favorite) is the
> four-year-old
> >son of one of our best NU friends (my wife's former
> apartment-mate and
> >sorority sister) and her husband. Both parents grew up in a town
> >southwest of Chicago, and live in that vicinity now, so
> unfortunately
> >we only get to see them a couple of times a year. They came
> to visit us
> >for a long weekend last month, and my son's friend showed up wearing
> >*gasp* a White Sox cap. I still let my son play with him,
> though, and
> >allowed their family to stay at our home anyway, despite
> some personal
> >discomfort (he did take the hat off inside the house). Just
> to let you
> >know how magnanimous I can be. ;)
> >
> >-Joe
> >
> >-----Original Message-----
> >From: nwu-sports-bounces at tssi.com
> [mailto:nwu-sports-bounces at tssi.com]
> >On Behalf Of Ben Adler
> >Sent: Tuesday, June 27, 2006 12:46 PM
> >To: nwu-sports at tssi.com
> >Subject: Re: [NU Sports] Mariotti web site
> >
> >Did Ozzie Guillen buy the domain name?
> >
> >Jonathan Michael Hawkins wrote: LOL!
> >
> >Here's the Trib article that let the city know about this incredibly
> >amusing web site:
> >
> >http://www.chicagotribune.com/sports/baseball/whitesox/chi-06
> 06270164ju
> >n27,1
> >,1156673.story?coll=chi-sportsnew-hed&ctrack=1&cset=true
> >
> >
> >Jonathan
> >
> >On Tue, 27 Jun 2006, MHRJGScott at aol.com wrote:
> >
> >
> >>Dedicated to the hatred of all things Mariotti: jaythejoke.com
> >>
> >>
> >
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