White Sox vs. . . . Everyone (was: [NU Sports] Mariotti web site)

Joe Thiegs thiegs at umn.edu
Wed Jun 28 09:15:27 CDT 2006 

And I, for one, think you're doing a fine job!  :)  -Joe

-----Original Message-----
From: nwu-sports-bounces at tssi.com [mailto:nwu-sports-bounces at tssi.com] On
Behalf Of Jeff Beamsley
Sent: Wednesday, June 28, 2006 8:24 AM
To: nwu-sports at tssi.com
Subject: RE: White Sox vs. . . . Everyone (was: [NU Sports] Mariotti web
site)

 
Joe,

I'm a big fan of the history of baseball as well as the way the game is
played today.

The intercity rivalry between Cubs and Sox fans is an important historical
artifact that most fans outside of Chicago don't understand.  These sorts of
rivalries were a key element in the growth of the professional game through
the first half of the 20th century.

I'm just doing my part to preserve a time-honored tradition and appreciate
any opportunity to do so.

Jeff


-----Original Message-----
From: Joe Thiegs [mailto:thiegs at umn.edu]
Sent: Tuesday, June 27, 2006 5:44 PM
To: jeffb at hilgraeve.com; nwu-sports at tssi.com
Subject: RE: White Sox vs. . . . Everyone (was: [NU Sports] Mariotti web
site)

 
<snip>
As far as your misplaced loyalties, I will refrain from criticizing the
masochistic fetish that is being a Cub's fan.  Chicago is slowly discovering
that there is a difference between soap opera and baseball.  Though I doubt
that those addicted to the Cubs will ever recover, you've already discovered
that the next generation of baseball fans prefer the 
 
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Sox.
^^^^
</snip>

Yikes!  I hope not!  I'll stage an intervention if I ever see symptoms of
that affliction in my kids.  :)  In the case of our very young friend, I'm
afraid it is a hereditary condition.  Probably incurable.  I just pray he
can grow up to lead an otherwise normal, productive, healthy life....

FWIW, I consider the Sox to be a JV version of the Yankees (my second
most-disliked team!).  Overpaid, boorish players (okay, just about all major
leaguers are overpaid, but relatively speaking, I mean); arrogant owners;
fans with chips on their shoulders who treat fans of any other team with
disdain; etc.

I don't experience too much pain from being a Cubs fan.  For one thing, they
are my secondary team and I have been rooting for them only about half my
life, so I don't feel quite the same emotional ups and downs that I do
depending on the Twins' performance.  I just enjoy watching the Cubbies and
remembering great times at and around Wrigley during college and the couple
of years after.  Secondly, I don't let my expectations for the Cubs get too
tremendously high--kind of like being an NU fan before 1996.  When I was at
NU, I had fun at the football games win or lose, and I didn't get too
depressed if we lost because that was what I expected.  Conversely, when we
won it was a huge thrill.  Since the 1995 season and the Rose Bowl (my
senior year), however, my expectations have changed, and now I actually get
upset when we lose.  You know, I'm not sure which is a healthier mentality.
:)

-Joe

P.S.  I'm sure Jeff knows, but for any wryness-impaired list members, my
comments equating being a White Sox fan with having a medical condition are
nothing more than a little tongue-in-cheek intra-conference ribbing.
Probably.

-----Original Message-----
From: nwu-sports-bounces at tssi.com [mailto:nwu-sports-bounces at tssi.com] On
Behalf Of Joe Thiegs
Sent: Tuesday, June 27, 2006 2:20 PM
To: 'Ben Adler'; nwu-sports at tssi.com
Subject: RE: [NU Sports] Mariotti web site

No, Ozzie bought "jaythe[something you can get in trouble for calling
someone].com".  :) Honestly, I had heard snippets about a Guillen-Mariotti
feud over the past few days but never heard what started it.  I did a little
research today and found out.  Two interesting points I noticed from the
blog entries (deadspin.com and jaythejoke.com):

1)  It seems that most of the public hatred is being directed at Mariotti,
when he was the target of Ozzie's outburst.  People don't seem to be as
riled up about what Ozzie said as I might expect.

2)  Here's an excerpt from a Phil Arvia column in the Daily Southtown:

"In the span of 102 seconds, Guillen leveled 25 words one generally cannot
read in a family newspaper at the Sun-Times' Jay Mariotti.

For those scoring at home, there were 14 variations of the f-word, five
s-words, three a-words, a b-word, a G.D. and the straw that broke the
camel's back, a three-letter reference either to Mariotti's sexuality or
British slang for a cigarette."

Is no one complaining about the other 24 vulgarities?

Because the White Sox are the natural enemies of both my AL team (the Twins)
and my NL team (the Cubs), of course it follows that they are my least
favorite team and I root hard for them to lose all of the time--the single
exception being in last season's World Series, in which I wanted them to
uphold the honor of the AL Central--and Guillen as manager makes it that
much easier.  FWIW, one of my four-year-old son's favorite playmates
(probably his favorite) is the four-year-old son of one of our best NU
friends (my wife's former apartment-mate and sorority sister) and her
husband.  Both parents grew up in a town southwest of Chicago, and live in
that vicinity now, so unfortunately we only get to see them a couple of
times a year.  They came to visit us for a long weekend last month, and my
son's friend showed up wearing *gasp* a White Sox cap.  I still let my son
play with him, though, and allowed their family to stay at our home anyway,
despite some personal discomfort (he did take the hat off inside the house).
Just to let you know how magnanimous I can be.  ;)

-Joe

-----Original Message-----
From: nwu-sports-bounces at tssi.com [mailto:nwu-sports-bounces at tssi.com] On
Behalf Of Ben Adler
Sent: Tuesday, June 27, 2006 12:46 PM
To: nwu-sports at tssi.com
Subject: Re: [NU Sports] Mariotti web site

Did Ozzie Guillen buy the domain name?

Jonathan Michael Hawkins <spiritu at northwestern.edu> wrote:  LOL!

Here's the Trib article that let the city know about this incredibly amusing
web site:

http://www.chicagotribune.com/sports/baseball/whitesox/chi-0606270164jun27,1
,1156673.story?coll=chi-sportsnew-hed&ctrack=1&cset=true


Jonathan

On Tue, 27 Jun 2006, MHRJGScott at aol.com wrote:
> Dedicated to the hatred of all things Mariotti:
> jaythejoke.com

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