From rstetson at capps-assoc.com  Wed Feb  1 14:37:36 2006
From: rstetson at capps-assoc.com (Roy Lamberton)
Date: Wed Feb  1 14:37:55 2006
Subject: [NU Sports] Chat During Signing Conference and Indiana Game Tonight
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Same place fans...

http://client1.sigmachat.com/sc.pl?id=122893

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From rstetson at capps-assoc.com  Wed Feb  1 14:36:24 2006
From: rstetson at capps-assoc.com (Roy Lamberton)
Date: Wed Feb  1 14:38:31 2006
Subject: [NU Sports] NU Sports News Digest 2/1
Message-ID: <002c01c6276f$2b4f7ac0$6500a8c0@DAVIDXP>

www.PurpleWildcats.com
for Purple Reign
& the NU Sports List

Signing Day Edition

17 New Cats [we hope] plus a few old ones coming back. Basketball has a tough
test tonight in Bloomington, both sides here, plus other Big 10 news. Miscellany
plus the Alumni Face Off in Detroit...

                                                                  All the News
that Fits We Link
                                                                      Your Index
to News about
                                                                    Northwestern
University Athletics

BASKETBALL

     Men
     'Cats Face No. 22 Indiana Wednesday in Bloomington
      http://nusports.collegesports.com/sports/m-baskbl/spec-rel/013106aac.html 
     + NU on road to face Indy's inside-outside game
 
http://www.dailynorthwestern.com/vnews/display.v/ART/2006/02/01/43e05dc18f20a 

     Vedran Vukusic: Climbing the charts
 
http://chicagosports.chicagotribune.com/sports/college/cs-060130nuvukusicchart,1
,4553428.htmlstory?coll=cs-college-headlines 

     Next game is at the Indiana Hoosiers Wednesday 
     Complete Northwestern Notes in PDF Format
 
http://www.fansonly.com/photos/schools/ind/sports/m-baskbl/auto_pdf/Northwestern
Notes1.pdf 
     + Feisty NU to challenge troubled IU
        http://www.tmnews.com/articles/2006/01/31/sections/sports/sports47.txt 
     + Davis says season far from over
 
http://www.indystar.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20060201/SPORTS0601/602010452

     + Davis confident IU will right ship
 
http://www.courier-journal.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20060201/SPORTS04/6020
10510/1002/SPORTS 

     Followed by Michigan State - Saturday
     Shannon Brown steps up to bail out MSU
      http://michiganstate.scout.com/2/494444.html 
     + Izzo preaches rebounding; Davis still feeling 'lightheaded'
      http://www.statenews.com/article.phtml?pk=34338 
     + Injured Davis might sit again
 
http://www.greenandwhite.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20060131/GW0201/60131034
4/1023/GW 
     + MSU men's notebook: 'Worst rebounding team I've had'
 
http://www.greenandwhite.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20060131/GW0201/60131034
5/1023/GW 
     + Spartan fast break
 
http://www.greenandwhite.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20060131/GW0201/60131034
3/1023/GW 

     Fan Advisory: Plan To Arrive Early Saturday for LaSalle Bank Night vs.
Michigan State
      http://nusports.collegesports.com/sports/m-baskbl/spec-rel/013106aae.html 


     Other Big 10
     Illini grab 1st all alone
 
http://chicagosports.chicagotribune.com/sports/college/cs-060131illinigamer,1,53
01787.story?coll=cs-college-headlines 
     + Now that's more like it for Illini
      http://www.suntimes.com/output/campus/cst-spt-ill01.html 
     + Kohl Center 'special' place for Brown
      http://www.suntimes.com/output/campus/cst-spt-illnt01.html 
     + Could the Final Four be within reach again?
      http://www.dailyherald.com/sports/illinois.asp?id=149213 
     + Illini take Big, Big step
      http://www.dailyherald.com/sports/illinois.asp?id=149210 
     + Foul strategy has payoff for Illinois
      http://www.nwherald.com/SportsSection/nickp/358628769265129.php 

     Michigan's Horton perfect from charity stripe
 
http://www.dailynorthwestern.com/vnews/display.v/ART/2006/02/01/43e05eab76b65 

     Women
      Under development
 
http://www.dailynorthwestern.com/vnews/display.v/ART/2006/02/01/43e0605c92d30 

     Teleconference: January 31
 
http://web.servicebureau.net/conf/meta?i=1112592025&c=16607&m=was&u=/w2.xsl 

FOOTBALL

     Underwhelming recruiting class just part of Walker's plan
 
http://www.dailynorthwestern.com/vnews/display.v/ART/2006/02/01/43e05f58b14d8 

RECRUITING


     #11 Northwestern Wildcats
     http://recruiting.scout.com/2/495523.html

     Defense: Recruiting Chart & Analysis
     http://northwestern.scout.com/2/494748.html

     Defense: Recruiting Chart & Analysis II
     http://northwestern.scout.com/2/495011.html

     Offense: Recruiting Chart & Analysis
     http://northwestern.scout.com/2/495692.html

     Watch Football Signing Day Free With All-Access!
      http://nusports.collegesports.com/sports/m-footbl/spec-rel/013106aaa.html 

     + Greenstein:  A sign of times: Signing day, live!
 
http://chicagosports.chicagotribune.com/sports/columnists/cs-060131greenstein,1,
4462559.column?coll=cs-college-utility 
     + NU's Full Commit List
      http://scout.scout.com/a.z?s=179&p=9&c=8&yr=2006&refid=4930 

     Various Recruiting stories....
     Last-minute news before signing day 
      http://msn.foxsports.com/cfb/story/5296232?CMP=OTC-K9B140813162&ATT=24 
     + Stewart Mandel: How Meyer and Florida won this year's recruiting war 
 
http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/rssclick/2006/writers/stewart_mandel/01/31/fla.
recruiting/index.html?section=si_ncaaf 
     + College recruits are getting the message
      http://msn.foxsports.com/cfb/story/5278294?CMP=OTC-K9B140813162&ATT=36 
     + High-speed recruiting
      http://www.fortwayne.com/mld/journalgazette/sports/13762702.htm 
     We're not as bad as this...
     + Diaper dandies may happen . literally
      http://www.fortwayne.com/mld/journalgazette/sports/13762699.htm 

     Everyone always suspected this "allegation" even if its not true....
     Prep star Rolle is no Lemming
      http://www.suntimes.com/output/quickhits/cst-spt-1hit01.html 
     + Analyst denies pushing recruit toward Notre Dame 
      http://rssfeeds.usatoday.com/UsatodaycomCollegeFootball-TopStories?m=488 

MISCELLANY

     Big Ten Celebrates National Girls and Women in Sports Day
      http://bigten.collegesports.com/genrel/020106aaf.html 
     Illinois appeals to NCAA on mascot
 
http://chicagosports.chicagotribune.com/sports/college/cs-060131illinichief,1,42
53198.story?coll=cs-college-headlines 
     + U. of I. appeal delays NCAA ban on Chief
      http://www.suntimes.com/output/campus/cst-nws-chief01.html 
     Iraq War veteran preparing to resume football career
      http://rssfeeds.usatoday.com/UsatodaycomCollegeFootball-TopStories?m=485 
     Feel good story
     T.J. Duckett:Ex-Spartan goes 'off and away' to promote reading
      http://www.statenews.com/article.phtml?pk=34340 

Alumni

     Trai Essex Wide-eyed Essex in Super groove
      http://www.fortwayne.com/mld/newssentinel/sports/13747562.htm 
     + Best of the Midwest 2001-05
 
http://www.freep.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20060127/SPORTS09/601270392/1057

     + Essex is catching on to his life on the line
      http://www.fortwayne.com/mld/journalgazette/sports/13762701.htm 

     Kevin Bentley: BEHIND THE MASK: Kevin Bentley
      http://seattlepi.nwsource.com/football/257281_hrail27.html 
     Northwestern Alums Face Off in Super Bowl XL
      http://nusports.collegesports.com/sports/m-footbl/spec-rel/013006aaa.html 
     Seattle vs. Pittsburgh: Battle of the brews
 
http://www.sun-sentinel.com/sports/ny-foodcov0201,0,6950127.story?coll=sfla-spor
ts-front 

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From cherron604 at aol.com  Wed Feb  1 17:08:03 2006
From: cherron604 at aol.com (cherron604@aol.com)
Date: Wed Feb  1 17:29:36 2006
Subject: [NU Sports] Recruiting
Message-ID: <8C7F59B7CD8B3CD-1610-14A6E@FWM-R15.sysops.aol.com>

ESPN Radio in Chicago reported the following 'ratings' for the football classes signed today:
 
Northwestern   68th
 
Illinois             39th
 
Notre Dame       5th
 
A few observations.
 
I am not sure what or who their source was (they did not report that).
 
I seem to recall every ND recruiting class being rated in the top 10, but not alot of their teams have finished in the top 10 (lately).
 
If it is believable - 68th is not a rating that we should be achieving, especially if newcomer Ron Zook is coming in 39th.
 
If it is not believable or well-regarded, what ARE some very trustworthy rating services, and how did we finish in those ?
 
Chuck Herron   Tech '85
 
  
From MHRJGScott at aol.com  Wed Feb  1 17:41:15 2006
From: MHRJGScott at aol.com (MHRJGScott@aol.com)
Date: Wed Feb  1 17:54:14 2006
Subject: [NU Sports] Recruiting
Message-ID: <208.11d7fa6f.3112a11b@aol.com>

If the NFL draft is a gamble, the NCAA recruiting is a much bigger one. My  
local paper did a series on the Mr. footballs in Florida over the last 20 years 
 and except for Dante they mostly were injured or  jailed.
From tbng at suscom.net  Wed Feb  1 17:45:44 2006
From: tbng at suscom.net (Dennis W. Brandt)
Date: Wed Feb  1 17:54:30 2006
Subject: [NU Sports] Recruiting
References: <8C7F59B7CD8B3CD-1610-14A6E@FWM-R15.sysops.aol.com>
Message-ID: <008901c62789$9f3d10e0$c102a8c0@DENNISMACHINE>

Here in Pennsylvania, Penn State fans are agog at the quality of its 
recruiting class, and it's a large one that may have an impact for the next 
four or five years.  Northwestern's class is a definite disappointment on 
paper.  Sure, some of those four and five star guys will flunk out, ruin 
their knees, or arrive with bad attitudes, while Northwestern might have 
another Pat Fitzgerald among those mere double-star recruits.  But as long 
as we go year after year getting no top notch players, we can expect to be 
about .500 give or take.  Recruiting HAS to improve. 

From artmiller1 at hotmail.com  Wed Feb  1 18:19:37 2006
From: artmiller1 at hotmail.com (Arthur Miller)
Date: Wed Feb  1 18:20:19 2006
Subject: [NU Sports] Recruiting
In-Reply-To: <8C7F59B7CD8B3CD-1610-14A6E@FWM-R15.sysops.aol.com>
Message-ID: <BAY106-DAV2050CB4B9859F60493E55A8A0A0@phx.gbl>

Rivals currently has NU's as the 78-best class, behind such notable programs
as Louisiana Tech, Ball State, and East Carolina.

I know the inherent flaws of the recruit-ranking process, that many of the
4- and 5-star recruits won't pan out for academic and/or athletic reasons,
and that some of these kids may well turn out to be all-Big Ten players.
Still, taken as a whole and considering the recent relative success of the
program, this recruiting class has to be considered a major disappointment.
Oh how I wish it weren't so.

-Art Miller



-----Original Message-----
From: nwu-sports-bounces@tssi.com [mailto:nwu-sports-bounces@tssi.com] On
Behalf Of cherron604@aol.com
Sent: Wednesday, February 01, 2006 5:08 PM
To: nwu-sports@tssi.com
Subject: [NU Sports] Recruiting

ESPN Radio in Chicago reported the following 'ratings' for the football
classes signed today:
 
Northwestern   68th
 
Illinois             39th
 
Notre Dame       5th
 
A few observations.
 
I am not sure what or who their source was (they did not report that).
 
I seem to recall every ND recruiting class being rated in the top 10, but
not alot of their teams have finished in the top 10 (lately).
 
If it is believable - 68th is not a rating that we should be achieving,
especially if newcomer Ron Zook is coming in 39th.
 
If it is not believable or well-regarded, what ARE some very trustworthy
rating services, and how did we finish in those ?
 
Chuck Herron   Tech '85
 
  
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From johnadeg at bellatlantic.net  Wed Feb  1 18:44:53 2006
From: johnadeg at bellatlantic.net (John A. DeGroat)
Date: Wed Feb  1 18:45:24 2006
Subject: [NU Sports] Recruiting
In-Reply-To: <8C7F59B7CD8B3CD-1610-14A6E@FWM-R15.sysops.aol.com>
References: <8C7F59B7CD8B3CD-1610-14A6E@FWM-R15.sysops.aol.com>
Message-ID: <43E15605.6000208@bellatlantic.net>

They got the rankings from Rivals.Com

John DeGroat

cherron604@aol.com wrote:

>ESPN Radio in Chicago reported the following 'ratings' for the football classes signed today:
> 
>Northwestern   68th
> 
>Illinois             39th
> 
>Notre Dame       5th
> 
>A few observations.
> 
>I am not sure what or who their source was (they did not report that).
> 
>I seem to recall every ND recruiting class being rated in the top 10, but not alot of their teams have finished in the top 10 (lately).
> 
>If it is believable - 68th is not a rating that we should be achieving, especially if newcomer Ron Zook is coming in 39th.
> 
>If it is not believable or well-regarded, what ARE some very trustworthy rating services, and how did we finish in those ?
> 
>Chuck Herron   Tech '85
> 
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From cherron604 at aol.com  Wed Feb  1 18:45:05 2006
From: cherron604 at aol.com (cherron604@aol.com)
Date: Wed Feb  1 19:25:41 2006
Subject: [NU Sports] Recruiting
In-Reply-To: <8C7F59B7CD8B3CD-1610-14A6E@FWM-R15.sysops.aol.com>
References: <8C7F59B7CD8B3CD-1610-14A6E@FWM-R15.sysops.aol.com>
Message-ID: <8C7F5A90B0B777C-10F8-4490@FWM-D30.sysops.aol.com>

Also found this tidbit in today's Sun-Times:
 
 http://www.suntimes.com/output/quickhits/cst-spt-1hit01.html
 
(about halfway down, 'Prep Star Rolle is No Lemming')
 
Surprising that they would let Elliott Harris include this, since the Sun-Times quotes Lemming (and his praise of Notre Dame) endlessly.
 
ESPN's website seemed to be referencing Scout in most of their stories, but I never found the exact ranking there.
 
Chuck Herron   Tech '85
 
-----Original Message-----
From: cherron604@aol.com
To: nwu-sports@tssi.com
Sent: Wed, 01 Feb 2006 18:08:03 -0500
Subject: [NU Sports] Recruiting


ESPN Radio in Chicago reported the following 'ratings' for the football classes 
signed today:
 
Northwestern   68th
 
Illinois             39th
 
Notre Dame       5th
 
A few observations.
 
I am not sure what or who their source was (they did not report that).
 
I seem to recall every ND recruiting class being rated in the top 10, but not 
alot of their teams have finished in the top 10 (lately).
 
If it is believable - 68th is not a rating that we should be achieving, 
especially if newcomer Ron Zook is coming in 39th.
 
If it is not believable or well-regarded, what ARE some very trustworthy rating 
services, and how did we finish in those ?
 
Chuck Herron   Tech '85
 
  
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From prplehaze at insightbb.com  Wed Feb  1 19:25:51 2006
From: prplehaze at insightbb.com (Mark Ament)
Date: Wed Feb  1 20:28:41 2006
Subject: [NU Sports] Recruiting
In-Reply-To: <BAY106-DAV2050CB4B9859F60493E55A8A0A0@phx.gbl>
References: <BAY106-DAV2050CB4B9859F60493E55A8A0A0@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <43E15F9F.1020406@insightbb.com>

By way of comparison, Scout.com has us tied for 69th with Memphis, just 
ahead of noted power Tulane, who as we all should now had to recruit 
without the benefit of knowing if it even had a campus to recruit 
players to attend.  Just ahead of NU in the Scout rankings were 
Cincinnati, Houston and UConn. Indiana was 77, Minnesota 61, Purdue 54, 
MSU 42, Iowa 38,Wisky 36, Illiniois 27,  OSU 13, Mich 10, and PSU 6.  
Overall, the Big Ten was ranked as the fifth best conference, just ahead 
of the Big East.  The SEC was ranked first and Florida was ranked first 
overall.

From thehaze at earthlink.net  Wed Feb  1 23:05:58 2006
From: thehaze at earthlink.net (Jim Bendat)
Date: Wed Feb  1 23:09:51 2006
Subject: [NU Sports] Dunbar leaving NU for Cal
Message-ID: <43E19336.4070005@earthlink.net>

Our offensive coordinator, Mike Dunbar, is taking a similar job at Cal. 
 Apparently, he has family in California.  Wide receivers coach Derrick 
McGee may have the inside track to replace Dunbar.  Any news on the 
defensive side?

http://www.pioneerlocal.com/cgi-bin/ppo-story/sports/current/ev/02-02-06-811020.html


From rstetson at capps-assoc.com  Wed Feb  1 17:59:08 2006
From: rstetson at capps-assoc.com (Roy Lamberton)
Date: Thu Feb  2 05:26:03 2006
Subject: [NU Sports] Recruiting
In-Reply-To: <8C7F59B7CD8B3CD-1610-14A6E@FWM-R15.sysops.aol.com>
Message-ID: <000601c6278b$7d7ae020$6500a8c0@DAVIDXP>

Pool [Scout] had us ranked 11th of 12 [he includes ND]

Read the Daily column about Walker's underachievers

rsl

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> -----Original Message-----
> From: nwu-sports-bounces@tssi.com 
> [mailto:nwu-sports-bounces@tssi.com] On Behalf Of cherron604@aol.com
> Sent: Wednesday, February 01, 2006 6:08 PM
> To: nwu-sports@tssi.com
> Subject: [NU Sports] Recruiting
> 
> 
> ESPN Radio in Chicago reported the following 'ratings' for 
> the football classes signed today:
>  
> Northwestern   68th
>  
> Illinois             39th
>  
> Notre Dame       5th
>  
> A few observations.
>  
> I am not sure what or who their source was (they did not report that).
>  
> I seem to recall every ND recruiting class being rated in the 
> top 10, but not alot of their teams have finished in the top 
> 10 (lately).
>  
> If it is believable - 68th is not a rating that we should be 
> achieving, especially if newcomer Ron Zook is coming in 39th.
>  
> If it is not believable or well-regarded, what ARE some very 
> trustworthy rating services, and how did we finish in those ?
>  
> Chuck Herron   Tech '85
>  
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From rstetson at capps-assoc.com  Thu Feb  2 10:30:16 2006
From: rstetson at capps-assoc.com (Roy Lamberton)
Date: Thu Feb  2 10:45:35 2006
Subject: [NU Sports] Dunbar leaving NU for Cal
In-Reply-To: <43E19336.4070005@earthlink.net>
Message-ID: <000e01c62815$f3377500$6500a8c0@DAVIDXP>

Walker said that the coaching staff was still intact except for Dunbar. I don't
expect any defensive changes, but then I didn't expect Dunbar to leave either.

Then again after this year's recruiting snafu's it seems that I'm the always the
last to know. <g>

rsl

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> -----Original Message-----
> From: nwu-sports-bounces@tssi.com 
> [mailto:nwu-sports-bounces@tssi.com] On Behalf Of Jim Bendat
> Sent: Thursday, February 02, 2006 12:06 AM
> To: nwu-sports@tssi.com
> Subject: [NU Sports] Dunbar leaving NU for Cal
> 
> 
> Our offensive coordinator, Mike Dunbar, is taking a similar 
> job at Cal. 
>  Apparently, he has family in California.  Wide receivers 
> coach Derrick 
> McGee may have the inside track to replace Dunbar.  Any news on the 
> defensive side?
> 
> http://www.pioneerlocal.com/cgi-bin/ppo-story/sports/current/e
v/02-02-06-811020.html


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From spiritu at northwestern.edu  Thu Feb  2 11:15:35 2006
From: spiritu at northwestern.edu (Jonathan Michael Hawkins)
Date: Thu Feb  2 11:19:03 2006
Subject: [NU Sports] Recruiting
In-Reply-To: <43E15F9F.1020406@insightbb.com>
References: <BAY106-DAV2050CB4B9859F60493E55A8A0A0@phx.gbl>
	<43E15F9F.1020406@insightbb.com>
Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.64.0602021048120.27278@localhost>

It's pretty clear to me that the only appropriate response to this 
horrible recruiting class is to immediately fire Walker, whoever his 
obviously inept recruiting coordinator is, and also Mike Dunbar, just for 
good measure.

;-)

On Wed, 1 Feb 2006, Mark Ament wrote:

> By way of comparison, Scout.com has us tied for 69th with Memphis, just ahead 
> of noted power Tulane, who as we all should now had to recruit without the 
> benefit of knowing if it even had a campus to recruit players to attend. 
> Just ahead of NU in the Scout rankings were Cincinnati, Houston and UConn. 
> Indiana was 77, Minnesota 61, Purdue 54, MSU 42, Iowa 38,Wisky 36, Illiniois 
> 27,  OSU 13, Mich 10, and PSU 6.  Overall, the Big Ten was ranked as the 
> fifth best conference, just ahead of the Big East.  The SEC was ranked first 
> and Florida was ranked first overall.
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From jleonard518 at yahoo.com  Thu Feb  2 10:02:49 2006
From: jleonard518 at yahoo.com (Jim Leonard)
Date: Thu Feb  2 11:50:49 2006
Subject: [NU Sports] Recruiting Rankings
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Message-ID: <20060202160249.35893.qmail@web36808.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

Fellow Wildcat Faithful,

I would certainly enjoy seeing 4.0 star recruits headed to NU, but
realistically, not many of them have the near 4.0 GPAs that we require. 

The reality for NU, and other academic schools like Vanderbilt, Stanford, and
the service academies, you have to take what you can get in terms of raw
athletic talent and win through player development (coaching) and a system that
compliments your available talent (coaching). 

I remember reading that the seniors on the '95 Rose Bowl team, as a recruiting
class, were ranked #92. Ever since, I haven't put much stock in recruiting
class rankings. 

Now, whether or not we have the right coaches in place to develop our recruits
is an entirely different conversation. 

Victory & Honor,
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From jeffb at hilgraeve.com  Thu Feb  2 12:22:32 2006
From: jeffb at hilgraeve.com (Jeff Beamsley)
Date: Thu Feb  2 12:26:54 2006
Subject: [NU Sports] Recruiting
In-Reply-To: <000601c6278b$7d7ae020$6500a8c0@DAVIDXP>
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The Daily column was nice, but it also assumes that RW knows something that
nobody else has figured out.  It's dangerous to take something that looks
like failure and predict victory based on a secret plan.

There are really only two ways to evaluate whether this class was a success
or a failure.

The first is how our recruiting classes compare with other schools that have
high admissions standards.  Using that yardstick this was a failure.  On
Rivals Stanford (53) and Duke (55) had virtually identical classes with
Vandy (60) close behind.  As others have pointed out, NU wasn't even in the
neighborhood (80).

The other is what happens on the field.  We won't know that for a year or
two.

The poor class this year does call into question the "wisdom" of coaching
continuity.  That wisdom says that in order to build a consistent winner, we
have to allow a coach to build a program.  Evidence of growth in the program
is posting winning seasons and going to bowl games (which RW has done).
Those wins and bowl game appearances produce a recruiting advantage. That
recruiting advantage translates into more wins and better bowl appearances
and ultimately as long as you don't commit the cardinal sin of firing your
coach, you reach nirvana and have a winning tradition and a consistently
competitive program.  Now many of those same people are saying that
recruiting class rankings don't matter?

If recruiting class rankings don't matter, doesn't that call into question
the supposed advantage of continuity?  Illinois is only the most recent
example that good recruiters CAN attract gifted athletes regardless of
tenure and recent performance.  Also I'm certain that most everyone on this
list is willing to agree that Illinois is like to have a MUCH better team
going forward as a direct result of the quality of this recruiting class.

Were I a betting man, I would also wager virtually any sum that RW would
trade his class in a heartbeat for the class that Ron Zook or Jim Tressel or
Lloyd Carr signed up.

It is possible that RW does more with less than anyone else in the league.
It's also possible that he has had to get good at doing more with less
because he's a bad recruiter.  

Jeff


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From: nwu-sports-bounces@tssi.com [mailto:nwu-sports-bounces@tssi.com] On
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Sent: Wednesday, February 01, 2006 6:59 PM
To: cherron604@aol.com; nwu-sports@tssi.com
Subject: RE: [NU Sports] Recruiting

Pool [Scout] had us ranked 11th of 12 [he includes ND]

Read the Daily column about Walker's underachievers

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> -----Original Message-----
> From: nwu-sports-bounces@tssi.com
> [mailto:nwu-sports-bounces@tssi.com] On Behalf Of cherron604@aol.com
> Sent: Wednesday, February 01, 2006 6:08 PM
> To: nwu-sports@tssi.com
> Subject: [NU Sports] Recruiting
> 
> 
> ESPN Radio in Chicago reported the following 'ratings' for the 
> football classes signed today:
>  
> Northwestern   68th
>  
> Illinois             39th
>  
> Notre Dame       5th
>  
> A few observations.
>  
> I am not sure what or who their source was (they did not report that).
>  
> I seem to recall every ND recruiting class being rated in the top 10, 
> but not alot of their teams have finished in the top 10 (lately).
>  
> If it is believable - 68th is not a rating that we should be 
> achieving, especially if newcomer Ron Zook is coming in 39th.
>  
> If it is not believable or well-regarded, what ARE some very 
> trustworthy rating services, and how did we finish in those ?
>  
> Chuck Herron   Tech '85
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From cherron604 at aol.com  Thu Feb  2 13:05:38 2006
From: cherron604 at aol.com (cherron604@aol.com)
Date: Thu Feb  2 13:11:20 2006
Subject: [NU Sports] 'Class-Act' Coach
Message-ID: <8C7F642C9C96C51-1200-180B@mblk-r11.sysops.aol.com>

Just saw this in this morning's Tribune - here's our 'Class-Act' coach dissing his own fans (page 9, under the headline 'Kicker gives alumni spirits a lift"):
 
The context of the story is that a video of Demos was shown, and greeted with cheers.
 
"I consider the source," coach Randy Walker said later: "Nobody out there has ever walked into an arena with 50,000 people and had to make a kick that meant anything.  He didn't have his best day [in the Sun Bowl], but it's unfair when people have no idea, no clue what it's like in that place."
 
(Can't get the exact link from the Tribune web-site - it is subscribers-only.  Maybe there will be a link to the quote in the Sun-Times or Daily Herald)
 
Apart from the wisdom of a sub-.500 coach, with plummeting attendance, ripping his own fans, did it ever occur to the Central St brain trust that video of a good kicker might make the fans happy, even cheer ?  If they did not want them cheering, why even show the video ?  And this crowd probably included some of the program's most loyal fans - why is he ripping them ?
 
And I do not believe that any fans have anything against Joel Howells.  He is a kicker placed into a bad situation (walk-on), and he did his best.  If they are mad at anybody, it is at a mean-spirited, bunker-mentalitied coaching staff that puts players into bad situations, then blames the fans.
 
Chuck Herron    Tech '85
 
 
 
From cherron604 at aol.com  Thu Feb  2 13:05:38 2006
From: cherron604 at aol.com (cherron604@aol.com)
Date: Thu Feb  2 13:28:57 2006
Subject: [NU Sports] 'Class-Act' Coach
Message-ID: <8C7F642C9C96C51-1200-180B@mblk-r11.sysops.aol.com>

Just saw this in this morning's Tribune - here's our 'Class-Act' coach dissing his own fans (page 9, under the headline 'Kicker gives alumni spirits a lift"):
 
The context of the story is that a video of Demos was shown, and greeted with cheers.
 
"I consider the source," coach Randy Walker said later: "Nobody out there has ever walked into an arena with 50,000 people and had to make a kick that meant anything.  He didn't have his best day [in the Sun Bowl], but it's unfair when people have no idea, no clue what it's like in that place."
 
(Can't get the exact link from the Tribune web-site - it is subscribers-only.  Maybe there will be a link to the quote in the Sun-Times or Daily Herald)
 
Apart from the wisdom of a sub-.500 coach, with plummeting attendance, ripping his own fans, did it ever occur to the Central St brain trust that video of a good kicker might make the fans happy, even cheer ?  If they did not want them cheering, why even show the video ?  And this crowd probably included some of the program's most loyal fans - why is he ripping them ?
 
And I do not believe that any fans have anything against Joel Howells.  He is a kicker placed into a bad situation (walk-on), and he did his best.  If they are mad at anybody, it is at a mean-spirited, bunker-mentalitied coaching staff that puts players into bad situations, then blames the fans.
 
Chuck Herron    Tech '85
 
 
 
From Hakirsch at aol.com  Thu Feb  2 12:35:18 2006
From: Hakirsch at aol.com (Hakirsch@aol.com)
Date: Thu Feb  2 13:42:35 2006
Subject: [NU Sports] Recruiting
Message-ID: <9.5360e457.3113aae6@aol.com>

 I am a money manager and no matter how bad people think my selections are, 
the only yardstick that counts is the performance --and the same goes for 
recruiting classes--Evaluate RW on our record (and graduation rate and if we 
continue to run a clean program)--not on how the "experts" think we did on 
recruiting

Harry 
From johnadeg at bellatlantic.net  Thu Feb  2 12:40:06 2006
From: johnadeg at bellatlantic.net (John A. DeGroat)
Date: Thu Feb  2 13:50:19 2006
Subject: [NU Sports] Recruiting Rankings
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Jim Leonard's comments are typical of the NU mindset that was forged 
during the horrendous losing streak that was  experienced when NU 
students to show how smart they thought that they were reduced to 
yelling at opposing players "you'll be working for us".  Being a top 
athlete doesn't make a person a dope, but that is the message that the 
NU mindset sends.  An imaginative coach, which we don't have, combined 
with a super smart AD like Murphy should be able to draw top athletes 
who can make it academically at NU.  Maybe somone should ask Murphy why 
he chose Colgate over NU.  come to think of it, a great market research 
project would be to ask top athletes with top SATs why they went 
somewhere other than NU.  I can give you a sammpling of one.  There were 
two brothers, top in their classes in Newark, Delaware who chose 
Stanford nad Miami ovr NU.  Why?, no one from NU could even get them 
inteersted.  One kid now plays for the 49ers and the othr kid will 
probablly be a top draft choice.

The fact that Stanford, Duke and Vanderbilt were ranked well above NU 
says a lot .

John DeGroat


Jim Leonard wrote:

>Fellow Wildcat Faithful,
>
>I would certainly enjoy seeing 4.0 star recruits headed to NU, but
>realistically, not many of them have the near 4.0 GPAs that we require. 
>
>The reality for NU, and other academic schools like Vanderbilt, Stanford, and
>the service academies, you have to take what you can get in terms of raw
>athletic talent and win through player development (coaching) and a system that
>compliments your available talent (coaching). 
>
>I remember reading that the seniors on the '95 Rose Bowl team, as a recruiting
>class, were ranked #92. Ever since, I haven't put much stock in recruiting
>class rankings. 
>
>Now, whether or not we have the right coaches in place to develop our recruits
>is an entirely different conversation. 
>
>Victory & Honor,
>Jim
>
>
>
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From mlinhardt at netzero.net  Thu Feb  2 14:22:44 2006
From: mlinhardt at netzero.net (mlinhardt@netzero.net)
Date: Thu Feb  2 14:25:06 2006
Subject: [NU Sports] 'Class-Act' Coach
Message-ID: <20060202.122321.1775.176591@webmail62.nyc.untd.com>

The Northwest Herald
NU coach irked by boosters
http://www.nwherald.com/SportsSection/college/359066922952848.php

This is a article has a much worse quote:
"Nobody out there has ever had to walk into an arena with 50,000 people and had to make a kick that meant anything. Most of them would crap their britches over a $2 Nassau, let alone a kick on national TV. If I hurt somebody's feelings out there, that is too bad." 

We were at the press conference.  We did not clap for the kicker as we believe it is a problem with a lack of a dedicated special teams coach not with talent.

Recruiting rankings are depressing, but obviously GB and RW are able to outproduce many teams with much better recruiting.  To that end either they are better coaches or better recruiters.  Either way you have to give them their due.

Sporting News
Recruiting rankings fun, but don't mean much
Year after year, many top-rated newcomers fail to pan out
http://msnbc.msn.com/id/11030262/

I news.googled -- northwestern recruiting -- It gave me the standard articles, but it also have a few articles of recruits we lost out on.

One guy had a toss-up between us and stanford and eventually chose stanford.  

Another guy was recruited as a defender(DB) and vandy said he could try offense(WR) and he liked that flexibility.  

RW says he plays straight with the recruits.  If that is true maybe RW looked at the depth chart and told him that he had a lot of depth at WR and did not need another one.  For that I would give him credit.  GB used to like to tell the story about D'Wayne Bates and being offerred at NU as a QB.  When D'Wayne came in and was low in the depth chart, GB encouraged/pushed him into WR.  Were GB's intentions good?  What if RW would have told Bates the likely truth and Bates went elsewhere?

An interesting story how the other half lives...

Ann Arbor News
Eastern Michigan forced to do more with less 
Budget constrains many of EMU's recruiting choices 
http://www.mlive.com/eagles/aanews/index.ssf?/base/sports-1/1138806617270860.xml&coll=2

-- cherron604@aol.com wrote:
"I consider the source," coach Randy Walker said later: "Nobody out there has ever walked into an arena with 50,000 people and had to make a kick that meant anything.  He didn't have his best day [in the Sun Bowl], but it's unfair when people have no idea, no clue what it's like in that place."



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From jon at mypalgodrecords.com  Thu Feb  2 12:45:01 2006
From: jon at mypalgodrecords.com (Jon Solomon)
Date: Thu Feb  2 14:32:08 2006
Subject: [NU Sports] Recruiting
In-Reply-To: <085b01c62825$a24aa620$97492745@hilgraeve.com>
References: <085b01c62825$a24aa620$97492745@hilgraeve.com>
Message-ID: <p06230907c0080341c0ef@[140.180.130.46]>

Here's a piece about some of the flaws with the ESPN recruiting rankings:
http://sportsprof.blogspot.com/2006/02/hilarity-in-espns-ratings-of-top.html
-- 

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From rstetson at capps-assoc.com  Thu Feb  2 15:02:05 2006
From: rstetson at capps-assoc.com (Roy Lamberton)
Date: Thu Feb  2 15:02:08 2006
Subject: [NU Sports] NU Sports News Digest 2/2
Message-ID: <001d01c6283b$ec19c090$6500a8c0@DAVIDXP>

www.PurpleWildcats.com
for Purple Reign
& the NU Sports List

Groundhog Day Edition

Signing Day fallout, Court Cats lose to the Hoosiers, now both Men and Women
look to MSU for next game, Softball, Tennis honors, Lots of recruiting fallout, 
        All the News that Fits We Link
            Your Index to News about
      Northwestern University Athletics

BASKETBALL

     Men
     Wildcats Rally, But Come Up Short in 72-63 Setback
      http://nusports.collegesports.com/sports/m-baskbl/recaps/020106aaa.html 
     + Too Much Wilmont, Vader: NU 63 Indy 72
      http://northwestern.scout.com/2/496067.html 
     + Hoosiers' lesser lights step up
      http://www.suntimes.com/output/campus/cst-spt-nu02.html 
     + Hoosier blues continue
 
http://chicagosports.chicagotribune.com/sports/college/northwestern/cs-060202042
9feb02,1,2850280.story?coll=cs-college-nwestern-print 
     + Hoosiers shoot down Cats
 
http://www.dailynorthwestern.com/vnews/display.v/ART/2006/02/02/43e1b339b057e 
     + Hoosiers Top Cats
      http://chicago.comcastsportsnet.com/view_content.asp?ID=24230 
     + Cats can't break streak at Indiana
      http://www.nuhoops.com/2006/02/cats_cant_break_streak_at_indi.html 

     Big 10 Standings
      http://bigten.collegesports.com/sports/m-baskbl/big10-m-baskbl-body.html 
     Tim Doyle: Swingman comes off bench to give spark
 
http://www.dailynorthwestern.com/vnews/display.v/ART/2006/02/02/43e1b462e7ff8 
     Carmody uses bye to get Cats back to basics
 
http://www.pioneerlocal.com/cgi-bin/ppo-story/sports/current/ev/02-02-06-816667.
html 

     From the Indiana Hoosier side 
     No. 22/21 Hoosiers Top Wildcats, 72-63
      http://iuhoosiers.collegesports.com/sports/m-baskbl/recaps/020106aac.html 
     + Indiana Head Coach Quotes
 
http://iuhoosiers.collegesports.com/sports/m-baskbl/spec-rel/020106aab.html 
     + Indiana Player Quotes
 
http://iuhoosiers.collegesports.com/sports/m-baskbl/spec-rel/020106aac.html 
     + Suhr, Wilmont Come To The Rescue
      http://indiana.scout.com/2/496075.html 
     + Hoosiers Welcome Home Cookin'
      http://indiana.scout.com/2/495979.html 
     + IU holds off scrappy Wildcats
      http://www.idsnews.com/news/story.php?id=33680&adid=sports 
     + Suhr, yes Suhr
      http://www.idsnews.com/news/story.php?id=33681&adid=sports 
     + Hoosiers claw past 'Cats
 
http://www.heraldtimesonline.com/stories/2006/02/02/iusports.new.1138856951.sto 
     + Playing Northwestern is never an easy task
 
http://www.heraldtimesonline.com/stories/2006/02/02/iusports.new.1138857042.sto 
     + Suhr's hustle guides Hoosiers
 
http://www.indystar.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20060202/SPORTS0601/602020433
/1004/SPORTS 
     + Smallest change comes up big
      http://www.fortwayne.com/mld/journalgazette/sports/13772569.htm 
     + IU needed home win and got it
      http://www.fortwayne.com/mld/journalgazette/sports/13772571.htm 

     Saturday its Michigan State
     MSU looks at graduated trio for inspiration
 
http://www.mlive.com/spartans/basketball/stories/index.ssf?/base/sports-0/113840
1603153490.xml&coll=1 
     + Brown's second-half show lifts Spartans to win
 
http://www.mlive.com/spartans/basketball/stories/index.ssf?/base/sports-0/113848
6205112640.xml&coll=1 

     Fan Advisory: Plan To Arrive Early Saturday for LaSalle Bank Night vs.
Michigan State
      http://nusports.collegesports.com/sports/m-baskbl/spec-rel/013106aae.html 

     Other Big 10
     Michigan defends its ranking
      http://www.suntimes.com/output/campus/cst-spt-big02.html 

     Women
     Northwestern Hosts No. 17 Michigan State
      http://nusports.collegesports.com/sports/w-baskbl/spec-rel/020106aac.html 

     Northwestern scores first Big Ten victory
 
http://www.pioneerlocal.com/cgi-bin/ppo-story/sports/current/ev/02-02-06-819498.
html 

     From MSU
     Women's Basketball Heads To The Road For Two Games This Week
 
http://msuspartans.collegesports.com/sports/w-baskbl/spec-rel/013106aaa.html 
     + Spartans tackle troubles on road
 
http://www.greenandwhite.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20060202/GW0202/60202036
2/1023/GW 
     + Spartan women's tipoff: No. 17 Michigan State at Northwestern
 
http://www.greenandwhite.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20060202/GW0202/60202035
3/1023/GW 
     + Spartans hit the road to face one of Big Ten's cellar dwellers
      http://www.statenews.com/article.phtml?pk=34376 


FOOTBALL

     Northwestern Announces 2006 Football Signing Class
      http://nusports.collegesports.com/sports/m-footbl/spec-rel/020106aac.html 
     No mention of this on the Cal site...
     Dunbar leaves Northwestern to become Cal offensive coordinator
 
http://www.pioneerlocal.com/cgi-bin/ppo-story/sports/current/ev/02-02-06-811020.
html 

RECRUITING

     Alums cheered when they showed Demos' 51 yard kick
     Kicker gives alumni spirits a lift
 
http://chicagosports.chicagotribune.com/sports/college/cs-060201nurecruiting,1,4
855747.story?coll=cs-college-headlines 
     + Cats see Bryant as quick study
      http://www.suntimes.com/output/campus/cst-spt-nufb02.html 
     + NU signs 17 recruits in class ranked 68th, 80th 
 
http://www.dailynorthwestern.com/vnews/display.v/ART/2006/02/02/43e1b56e4dbb5 
     + NU coach irked by boosters
      http://www.nwherald.com/SportsSection/college/359066922952848.php 
     + Walker picks up 17 in newest recruiting class
 
http://www.pioneerlocal.com/cgi-bin/ppo-story/sports/current/ev/02-02-06-816970.
html 
     + Northwestern Wildcats Sign 17 FB Recruits
      http://chicago.comcastsportsnet.com/view_content.asp?ID=24225 
     + Steve's blog
      http://www.sportingnews.com/member/blog/weblog.php?w=823 

     Zook crows about bumper crop
 
http://chicagosports.chicagotribune.com/sports/college/cs-060201illinirecruiting
,1,1090315.story?coll=cs-college-headlines 
     + Williams doing job already for Illinois
      http://www.dailyherald.com/sports/illinois.asp?id=149587 

     NIU class strong on athleticism
      http://www.dailyherald.com/sports/northern.asp?id=149619 

     Football Signing Day
      http://bigten.collegesports.com/sports/m-footbl/spec-rel/020106aac.html 
     + Stewart Mandel: Making sense of Signing Day 
 
http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/rssclick/2006/writers/stewart_mandel/02/01/recr
uiting.wrap/index.html?section=si_ncaaf 
     + Assessing a recruiting class takes time
      http://rssfeeds.usatoday.com/UsatodaycomCollegeFootball-TopStories?m=500 
     + Bozich: Recruiting ratings are very overrated
 
http://www.courier-journal.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20060202/COLUMNISTS01/
602020427/1002/SPORTS 

     Just a little early folks?
     Nate Oliver  Gives The Buckeyes An Early Start
 
http://scout.scout.com/a.z?s=179&p=9&c=2&cid=495976&nid=2131386&fhn=1&refid=4742


SOFTBALL

     Garland Cooper and Courtnay Foster Named to USA Softball National
Collegiate Player of the Year Watch List
      http://nusports.collegesports.com/sports/w-softbl/spec-rel/020106aab.html 

TENNIS

     No. 4 Northwestern Set For USTA-ITA National Women's Team Indoor
Championships
      http://nusports.collegesports.com/sports/w-tennis/spec-rel/020106aac.html 
     Christian Tempke Tabbed Big Ten Athlete of the Week
      http://nusports.collegesports.com/sports/m-tennis/spec-rel/020106aac.html 
     + Northwestern's Tempke Garners Big Ten Athlete of the Week Laurels
      http://bigten.collegesports.com/sports/m-tennis/spec-rel/020106aaa.html 

MISCELLANY


Alumni

     So NU Alums don't win Superbowls, how about other championships?
     More on the "Curse of the NU Wildcats"
      http://northwestern.scout.com/2/496226.html 
     more on the Knicks and Anucha Browne Sanders
     MSG firing Anucha air ball
 
http://www.newsday.com/sports/basketball/knicks/ny-sphey014609146feb01,0,361109.
column 

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From rstetson at capps-assoc.com  Thu Feb  2 15:05:50 2006
From: rstetson at capps-assoc.com (Roy Lamberton)
Date: Thu Feb  2 15:05:57 2006
Subject: [NU Sports] 'Class-Act' Coach
In-Reply-To: <20060202.122321.1775.176591@webmail62.nyc.untd.com>
Message-ID: <001e01c6283c$7265c9a0$6500a8c0@DAVIDXP>

Not sure, but I think the story was written by the same writer who dumped on
Carmody last week.

Must be trying for the annual Sun-Times "Telander Award"

rsl

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> -----Original Message-----
> From: nwu-sports-bounces@tssi.com 
> [mailto:nwu-sports-bounces@tssi.com] On Behalf Of 
> mlinhardt@netzero.net
> Sent: Thursday, February 02, 2006 3:23 PM
> To: nwu-sports@tssi.com
> Cc: Maureen.Linhardt@plexus.com
> Subject: Re: [NU Sports] 'Class-Act' Coach
> 
> 
> The Northwest Herald
> NU coach irked by boosters 
> http://www.nwherald.com/SportsSection/college/359066922952848.php
> 
> This is a article has a much worse quote:
> "Nobody out there has ever had to walk into an arena with 
> 50,000 people and had to make a kick that meant anything. 
> Most of them would crap their britches over a $2 Nassau, let 
> alone a kick on national TV. If I hurt somebody's feelings 
> out there, that is too bad." 
> 
> We were at the press conference.  We did not clap for the 
> kicker as we believe it is a problem with a lack of a 
> dedicated special teams coach not with talent.
> 
> Recruiting rankings are depressing, but obviously GB and RW 
> are able to outproduce many teams with much better 
> recruiting.  To that end either they are better coaches or 
> better recruiters.  Either way you have to give them their due.
> 
> Sporting News
> Recruiting rankings fun, but don't mean much
> Year after year, many top-rated newcomers fail to pan out 
> http://msnbc.msn.com/id/11030262/
> 
> I news.googled -- northwestern recruiting -- It gave me the 
> standard articles, but it also have a few articles of 
> recruits we lost out on.
> 
> One guy had a toss-up between us and stanford and eventually 
> chose stanford.  
> 
> Another guy was recruited as a defender(DB) and vandy said he 
> could try offense(WR) and he liked that flexibility.  
> 
> RW says he plays straight with the recruits.  If that is true 
> maybe RW looked at the depth chart and told him that he had a 
> lot of depth at WR and did not need another one.  For that I 
> would give him credit.  GB used to like to tell the story 
> about D'Wayne Bates and being offerred at NU as a QB.  When 
> D'Wayne came in and was low in the depth chart, GB 
> encouraged/pushed him into WR.  Were GB's intentions good?  
> What if RW would have told Bates the likely truth and Bates 
> went elsewhere?
> 
> An interesting story how the other half lives...
> 
> Ann Arbor News
> Eastern Michigan forced to do more with less 
> Budget constrains many of EMU's recruiting choices 
> http://www.mlive.com/eagles/aanews/index.ssf?/base/sports-1/11
38806617270860.xml&coll=2

-- cherron604@aol.com wrote:
"I consider the source," coach Randy Walker said later: "Nobody out there has
ever walked into an arena with 50,000 people and had to make a kick that meant
anything.  He didn't have his best day [in the Sun Bowl], but it's unfair when
people have no idea, no clue what it's like in that place."



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From jeffb at hilgraeve.com  Thu Feb  2 14:45:49 2006
From: jeffb at hilgraeve.com (Jeff Beamsley)
Date: Thu Feb  2 15:13:58 2006
Subject: [NU Sports] Recruiting
In-Reply-To: <9.5360e457.3113aae6@aol.com>
Message-ID: <089401c62839$a7102d60$97492745@hilgraeve.com>

Harry,
 
I agree that at the end of the day all that matters is wins and losses.  
 
BUT
 
There also appears to be a good correlation between the quality of the
recruiting classes over time and the future success of the football team.
In fact, it almost becomes self correcting, as Ty Willingham can attest,
because coaches who have consistently good recruiting classes and don't win
end up getting replaced.
 
Just as you use tools which track current metrics to predict future
performance of investments for your customers base, recruiting class ranking
is a tool to predict future football success.  
 
What we have at NU appears to be a coach who under recruits (even compared
to institutions with similar academic rigor) and over performs.  This is
probably a good thing if he is able to consistently produce teams with the
heart that we've seen some of his teams demonstrate.  This is probably a bad
thing when we see our team lose because we are playing teams that are just
way faster than we are.
 
Jeff

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From: Hakirsch@aol.com [mailto:Hakirsch@aol.com] 
Sent: Thursday, February 02, 2006 1:35 PM
To: jeffb@hilgraeve.com; nwu-sports@tssi.com
Subject: Re: [NU Sports] Recruiting


I am a money manager and no matter how bad people think my selections are,
the only yardstick that counts is the performance --and the same goes for
recruiting classes--Evaluate RW on our record (and graduation rate and if we
continue to run a clean program)--not on how the "experts" think we did on
recruiting

Harry 
From MHRJGScott at aol.com  Thu Feb  2 15:10:22 2006
From: MHRJGScott at aol.com (MHRJGScott@aol.com)
Date: Thu Feb  2 15:23:11 2006
Subject: [NU Sports] Recruiting
Message-ID: <e8.24461db3.3113cf3e@aol.com>

All I know is my day started badly when I read in the Orlando paper that  the 
Evil Empire got 4 of the top ten Florida recruits and we got zero of the top  
100, good grief.
From rstetson at capps-assoc.com  Thu Feb  2 14:13:37 2006
From: rstetson at capps-assoc.com (Roy Lamberton)
Date: Thu Feb  2 15:36:30 2006
Subject: [NU Sports] 'Class-Act' Coach
In-Reply-To: <8C7F642C9C96C51-1200-180B@mblk-r11.sysops.aol.com>
Message-ID: <001b01c62835$26b6cdd0$6500a8c0@DAVIDXP>

It was in one of the Sun-Times suburban papers

NU coach irked by boosters
http://www.nwherald.com/SportsSection/college/359066922952848.php

I suspect they caught Randy talking to his "friends."

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> -----Original Message-----
> From: nwu-sports-bounces@tssi.com 
> [mailto:nwu-sports-bounces@tssi.com] On Behalf Of cherron604@aol.com
> Sent: Thursday, February 02, 2006 2:06 PM
> To: nwu-sports@tssi.com
> Subject: [NU Sports] 'Class-Act' Coach
> 
> 
> Just saw this in this morning's Tribune - here's our 
> 'Class-Act' coach dissing his own fans (page 9, under the 
> headline 'Kicker gives alumni spirits a lift"):
>  
> The context of the story is that a video of Demos was shown, 
> and greeted with cheers.
>  
> "I consider the source," coach Randy Walker said later: 
> "Nobody out there has ever walked into an arena with 50,000 
> people and had to make a kick that meant anything.  He didn't 
> have his best day [in the Sun Bowl], but it's unfair when 
> people have no idea, no clue what it's like in that place."
>  
> (Can't get the exact link from the Tribune web-site - it is 
> subscribers-only.  Maybe there will be a link to the quote in 
> the Sun-Times or Daily Herald)
>  
> Apart from the wisdom of a sub-.500 coach, with plummeting 
> attendance, ripping his own fans, did it ever occur to the 
> Central St brain trust that video of a good kicker might make 
> the fans happy, even cheer ?  If they did not want them 
> cheering, why even show the video ?  And this crowd probably 
> included some of the program's most loyal fans - why is he 
> ripping them ?
>  
> And I do not believe that any fans have anything against Joel 
> Howells.  He is a kicker placed into a bad situation 
> (walk-on), and he did his best.  If they are mad at anybody, 
> it is at a mean-spirited, bunker-mentalitied coaching staff 
> that puts players into bad situations, then blames the fans.
>  
> Chuck Herron    Tech '85
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From tbng at suscom.net  Thu Feb  2 15:48:57 2006
From: tbng at suscom.net (Dennis W. Brandt)
Date: Thu Feb  2 16:04:24 2006
Subject: [NU Sports] Talent
References: <001b01c62835$26b6cdd0$6500a8c0@DAVIDXP>
Message-ID: <000b01c62842$7851d7e0$c102a8c0@DENNISMACHINE>

If Randy Walker does this well with average players, imagine how well he'd 
do with great players. 

From rstetson at capps-assoc.com  Thu Feb  2 15:48:29 2006
From: rstetson at capps-assoc.com (Roy Lamberton)
Date: Thu Feb  2 17:22:11 2006
Subject: [NU Sports] 'Class-Act' Coach
In-Reply-To: <20060202.122321.1775.176591@webmail62.nyc.untd.com>
Message-ID: <001f01c62842$67abc220$6500a8c0@DAVIDXP>

At the risk of either reading things into events too much, or being considered a
"shill" for the present coaching staff...

I think one reason we had so many really late commits this year was that some of
these kids were waiting for offers from teams that were recruiting them for
their HS position.

For Example:
McManis is coming as a cornerback, not a running back. 
Lee Coleman is coming as a WR instead of as a QB.

I'm sure both were holding out for offers at their "other" position from other
colleges, but decided eventually to take the shot at the Big 10 in their
"secondary" [in their mind] position.

Incidentally, those who were blaming coach Dunbar for the recruiting class
should remember that Pat Fitzgerald is the recruiting coordinator, not that the
"rc" has that much to do with the actual recruitment of players - that's usually
based on the ability of the area recruiter and the position coach.

Check out the assignments by state in the media guide and you can see who
recruited where and who.

rsl

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> RW says he plays straight with the recruits.  If that is true 
> maybe RW looked at the depth chart and told him that he had a 
> lot of depth at WR and did not need another one.  For that I 
> would give him credit.  GB used to like to tell the story 
> about D'Wayne Bates and being offered at NU as a QB.  When 
> D'Wayne came in and was low in the depth chart, GB 
> encouraged/pushed him into WR.  Were GB's intentions good?  
> What if RW would have told Bates the likely truth and Bates 
> went elsewhere?


From NEONRye at aol.com  Thu Feb  2 17:22:05 2006
From: NEONRye at aol.com (NEONRye@aol.com)
Date: Thu Feb  2 17:23:17 2006
Subject: [NU Sports] Talent
Message-ID: <79.54e718fd.3113ee1d@aol.com>

I have one question to throw out for comment:   Does anyone think  we would 
have fared better if we had kept the momentum in the Sun Bowl,   and won the 
game?  Would that have tipped the scales on a few  potential recruits who may 
have been on the fence, but ended up signing  elsewhere?
 
Paul Levinson
From NEONRye at aol.com  Thu Feb  2 17:37:08 2006
From: NEONRye at aol.com (NEONRye@aol.com)
Date: Thu Feb  2 17:50:00 2006
Subject: [NU Sports] A Different View of Hawkeye Country
Message-ID: <f6.60fa0b48.3113f1a4@aol.com>

I think everyone will enjoy this article about how the Iowa hoops team has  
"adopted" Jesse Weiss, a 7-year-old boy who has undergone a very serious spinal 
 fusion operation in Iowa City for a rare condition (as described in the 
article)  and had to wear a "halo" for many months, while spending much time in 
the land  of the Hawkeyes.  By the way, Jesse's dad is my law partner and 
friend, Rob  Weiss.  Rob told me that in addition to the obvious compassion shown by 
 Steve Alford which is covered in the article, Kirk Ferentz has also been 
amazing  towards Jesse and the Weiss family, even though he is not mentioned.
 
_http://www.press-citizen.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20060130/HAWKS0102/60
1300308/107_ 
(http://www.press-citizen.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20060130/HAWKS0102/601300308/107) 
 
Paul Levinson
 
P.S.:  I told Rob I was going to share this with our List and also  described 
to him some of the taunting that used to go on between NU students and  Iowa 
students back in the Hayden Fry era.  
From NEONRye at aol.com  Thu Feb  2 17:42:56 2006
From: NEONRye at aol.com (NEONRye@aol.com)
Date: Thu Feb  2 18:04:37 2006
Subject: [NU Sports] WISCONSIN DISMISSES RUNNING BACK BOOKER STANLEY
Message-ID: <242.63c95c8.3113f300@aol.com>

This just in on AOL Sports:
 
_http://articles.news.aol.com/sports/article.adp?id=20060202152209990002&cid_ 
(http://articles.news.aol.com/sports/article.adp?id=20060202152209990002&cid) 
=
 
Paul Levinson
From jeffb at hilgraeve.com  Thu Feb  2 15:56:51 2006
From: jeffb at hilgraeve.com (Jeff Beamsley)
Date: Thu Feb  2 18:50:52 2006
Subject: [NU Sports] 'Class-Act' Coach
In-Reply-To: <001b01c62835$26b6cdd0$6500a8c0@DAVIDXP>
Message-ID: <08da01c62843$927c7e30$97492745@hilgraeve.com>

 
He certainly could have been more graceful in his remarks, but I don't have
a problem with this.  In fact, I was a little surprised that he would jump
so quickly to Howells defense.

This is just a coach protecting his player.  Howells had a terrible day and
ended up getting pulled, which is embarrassment enough on national TV.  Now
Howells gets to relive it because of getting the equivalent of the Bronx
cheer on signing day.  IMHO, it was RW's way of telling Howells that he
still had a place on the team.

Jeff

.  
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From: nwu-sports-bounces@tssi.com [mailto:nwu-sports-bounces@tssi.com] On
Behalf Of Roy Lamberton
Sent: Thursday, February 02, 2006 3:14 PM
To: cherron604@aol.com; nwu-sports@tssi.com
Subject: RE: [NU Sports] 'Class-Act' Coach

It was in one of the Sun-Times suburban papers

NU coach irked by boosters
http://www.nwherald.com/SportsSection/college/359066922952848.php

I suspect they caught Randy talking to his "friends."

rsl
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: nwu-sports-bounces@tssi.com
> [mailto:nwu-sports-bounces@tssi.com] On Behalf Of cherron604@aol.com
> Sent: Thursday, February 02, 2006 2:06 PM
> To: nwu-sports@tssi.com
> Subject: [NU Sports] 'Class-Act' Coach
> 
> 
> Just saw this in this morning's Tribune - here's our 'Class-Act' coach 
> dissing his own fans (page 9, under the headline 'Kicker gives alumni 
> spirits a lift"):
>  
> The context of the story is that a video of Demos was shown, and 
> greeted with cheers.
>  
> "I consider the source," coach Randy Walker said later: 
> "Nobody out there has ever walked into an arena with 50,000 people and 
> had to make a kick that meant anything.  He didn't have his best day 
> [in the Sun Bowl], but it's unfair when people have no idea, no clue 
> what it's like in that place."
>  
> (Can't get the exact link from the Tribune web-site - it is 
> subscribers-only.  Maybe there will be a link to the quote in the 
> Sun-Times or Daily Herald)
>  
> Apart from the wisdom of a sub-.500 coach, with plummeting attendance, 
> ripping his own fans, did it ever occur to the Central St brain trust 
> that video of a good kicker might make the fans happy, even cheer ?  
> If they did not want them cheering, why even show the video ?  And 
> this crowd probably included some of the program's most loyal fans - 
> why is he ripping them ?
>  
> And I do not believe that any fans have anything against Joel Howells.  
> He is a kicker placed into a bad situation (walk-on), and he did his 
> best.  If they are mad at anybody, it is at a mean-spirited, 
> bunker-mentalitied coaching staff that puts players into bad 
> situations, then blames the fans.
>  
> Chuck Herron    Tech '85
>  
>  
>  
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From BSchooler at aol.com  Thu Feb  2 20:23:45 2006
From: BSchooler at aol.com (BSchooler@aol.com)
Date: Thu Feb  2 20:25:25 2006
Subject: [NU Sports] Another "Class Act Coach" Comment
Message-ID: <216.120a901c.311418b1@aol.com>

>From the Evanston Review:
 
"When asked about Dunbar following Northwestern's signing day announcements 
Wednesday night, head coach Randy Walker simply said, "He's gone.'' Walker 
refused to answer any further questions until a formal release was made 
available." 
Why does Walker have to wait for a formal press release before saying 
something nice about Mike Dunbar; someone he's worked with for four years and who 
made a positive contribution to Northwestern football? No expressions of 
gratitude. No good wishes. Instead, all we hear is, "He's gone". Nice guy, that Randy 
Walker. 
Comments like this contribute to one's reputation. Perhaps Walker's 
reputation is hindering our ability to attract more highly regarded recruits.  
Bob Schooler 

From nolan at romaine.tssi.com  Thu Feb  2 20:30:45 2006
From: nolan at romaine.tssi.com (Mike Nolan)
Date: Thu Feb  2 20:30:48 2006
Subject: [NU Sports] Recruiting (fwd)
Message-ID: <200602030230.k132UjXG015789@romaine.tssi.com>

> All I know is my day started badly when I read in the Orlando paper that  the 
> Evil Empire got 4 of the top ten Florida recruits and we got zero of the top  
> 100, good grief.

How many top 100 [Florida?] recruits has Northwestern signed in the last 
20 years?
--
Mike Nolan

From warneradams at comcast.net  Thu Feb  2 22:19:15 2006
From: warneradams at comcast.net (warneradams)
Date: Thu Feb  2 22:20:28 2006
Subject: [NU Sports] Recruiting Rankings
In-Reply-To: <43E25206.6040001@bellatlantic.net>
Message-ID: <200602030420.k134KOAT024668@gw.tssi.com>

1) "The fact that Stanford, Duke and Vanderbilt were ranked well above NU 
says a lot."

Average Recruiting Rankings from 2002-2005:

Stanford 35.25
Duke     61.75
Vandy    67.25
NU       60.75

Average Wins from 2002-2005:

Stanford 3.75
Duke     2.25
Vandy    2.75
NU       5.50

2) "no one from NU could even get [Stanford's Kwame Harris] inteersted?"

Is this true?  He only started two years at Stanford (2002-2003) (where they
won a grand total of 6 games).  

Meanwhile, our starting right tackle for much of 2002 and all of 2003 was
just named our first FWAA All American in 5 years and our starting left
tackle in 2002-2003 is playing in the Super Bowl on Sunday.  Maybe we
weren't that interested?

3) "Maybe somone(sic) should ask Murphy why he chose Colgate over NU?"

Mark Murphy went to Clarence High School in western New York and he said
last year in an on-line interview that he chose Colgate for its proximity to
home and its academics.  They offered no scholarships.  Academics were
evidently important to him since he later obtained his MBA in 1983 from
American University while playing in the NFL and a later law degree from
Georgetown University. 



-----Original Message-----
From: nwu-sports-bounces@tssi.com [mailto:nwu-sports-bounces@tssi.com] On
Behalf Of John A. DeGroat
Sent: Thursday, February 02, 2006 12:40 PM
To: Jim Leonard
Cc: nwu-sports@tssi.com
Subject: Re: [NU Sports] Recruiting Rankings

Jim Leonard's comments are typical of the NU mindset that was forged 
during the horrendous losing streak that was  experienced when NU 
students to show how smart they thought that they were reduced to 
yelling at opposing players "you'll be working for us".  Being a top 
athlete doesn't make a person a dope, but that is the message that the 
NU mindset sends.  An imaginative coach, which we don't have, combined 
with a super smart AD like Murphy should be able to draw top athletes 
who can make it academically at NU.  Maybe somone should ask Murphy why 
he chose Colgate over NU.  come to think of it, a great market research 
project would be to ask top athletes with top SATs why they went 
somewhere other than NU.  I can give you a sammpling of one.  There were 
two brothers, top in their classes in Newark, Delaware who chose 
Stanford nad Miami ovr NU.  Why?, no one from NU could even get them 
inteersted.  One kid now plays for the 49ers and the othr kid will 
probablly be a top draft choice.

The fact that Stanford, Duke and Vanderbilt were ranked well above NU 
says a lot .

John DeGroat


Jim Leonard wrote:

>Fellow Wildcat Faithful,
>
>I would certainly enjoy seeing 4.0 star recruits headed to NU, but
>realistically, not many of them have the near 4.0 GPAs that we require. 
>
>The reality for NU, and other academic schools like Vanderbilt, Stanford,
and
>the service academies, you have to take what you can get in terms of raw
>athletic talent and win through player development (coaching) and a system
that
>compliments your available talent (coaching). 
>
>I remember reading that the seniors on the '95 Rose Bowl team, as a
recruiting
>class, were ranked #92. Ever since, I haven't put much stock in recruiting
>class rankings. 
>
>Now, whether or not we have the right coaches in place to develop our
recruits
>is an entirely different conversation. 
>
>Victory & Honor,
>Jim
>
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From rstetson at capps-assoc.com  Fri Feb  3 06:11:59 2006
From: rstetson at capps-assoc.com (Roy Lamberton)
Date: Fri Feb  3 06:18:54 2006
Subject: [NU Sports] Recruiting Rankings
In-Reply-To: <200602030420.k134KOAT024668@gw.tssi.com>
Message-ID: <002501c628bb$08bc2060$6500a8c0@DAVIDXP>

Kwame Harris was only interested in playing on the west coast, as I remember
from his days at Newark HS in Delaware.

He was recruited hard by NU, PSU, Maryland, and Delaware, among others but had
his heart set on playing at Stanford.

In HS he expressed interest in becoming a surgeon.

Everyone that followed Delaware recruiting was really surprised he didn't end up
on the east coast.

Sorry to those who get upset about me talking about Delaware..<g>

rsl

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> 
> 2) "no one from NU could even get [Stanford's Kwame Harris] 
> inteersted?"
> 
> Is this true?  He only started two years at Stanford 
> (2002-2003) (where they won a grand total of 6 games).  
> 
> Meanwhile, our starting right tackle for much of 2002 and all 
> of 2003 was just named our first FWAA All American in 5 years 
> and our starting left tackle in 2002-2003 is playing in the 
> Super Bowl on Sunday.  Maybe we weren't that interested?


From rstetson at capps-assoc.com  Fri Feb  3 08:43:34 2006
From: rstetson at capps-assoc.com (Roy Lamberton)
Date: Fri Feb  3 08:43:37 2006
Subject: [NU Sports] Another "Class Act Coach" Comment
In-Reply-To: <216.120a901c.311418b1@aol.com>
Message-ID: <002901c628d0$35869980$6500a8c0@DAVIDXP>

1. Walker has never commented on former coaches - he said nothing that I
remember about Jeff Genyk or Kevin Wilson until he and Wolf got a press release
out. That's the way he works...

2. From the signing day story about WR Lee Coleman; "The coaching staff was so
loving, it was hard to turn them down,"

Hmmmm

rsl

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> -----Original Message-----
> From: nwu-sports-bounces@tssi.com 
> [mailto:nwu-sports-bounces@tssi.com] On Behalf Of BSchooler@aol.com
> Sent: Thursday, February 02, 2006 9:24 PM
> To: nwu-sports@romaine.tssi.com
> Subject: [NU Sports] Another "Class Act Coach" Comment
> 
> 
> >From the Evanston Review:
>  
> "When asked about Dunbar following Northwestern's signing day 
> announcements 
> Wednesday night, head coach Randy Walker simply said, "He's 
> gone.'' Walker 
> refused to answer any further questions until a formal 
> release was made 
> available." 
> Why does Walker have to wait for a formal press release before saying 
> something nice about Mike Dunbar; someone he's worked with 
> for four years and who 
> made a positive contribution to Northwestern football? No 
> expressions of 
> gratitude. No good wishes. Instead, all we hear is, "He's 
> gone". Nice guy, that Randy 
> Walker. 
> Comments like this contribute to one's reputation. Perhaps Walker's 
> reputation is hindering our ability to attract more highly 
> regarded recruits.  
> Bob Schooler 
> 
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From rstetson at capps-assoc.com  Fri Feb  3 06:18:08 2006
From: rstetson at capps-assoc.com (Roy Lamberton)
Date: Fri Feb  3 08:51:49 2006
Subject: [NU Sports] A Different View of Hawkeye Country
In-Reply-To: <f6.60fa0b48.3113f1a4@aol.com>
Message-ID: <002601c628bb$e4ad0ee0$6500a8c0@DAVIDXP>

I think almost every athlete does things like this, they just don't get
reported.

Maybe the Hawkeyes aren't as bad as we've portrayed them?

<g>

rsl

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> 
> I think everyone will enjoy this article about how the Iowa 
> hoops team has  
> "adopted" Jesse Weiss, a 7-year-old boy who has undergone a 
> very serious spinal 
>  fusion operation in Iowa City for a rare condition (as 
> described in the 
> article)  and had to wear a "halo" for many months, while 
> spending much time in 
> the land  of the Hawkeyes. 

From rstetson at capps-assoc.com  Fri Feb  3 10:46:27 2006
From: rstetson at capps-assoc.com (Roy Lamberton)
Date: Fri Feb  3 10:46:32 2006
Subject: [NU Sports] NU Sports News Digest 2/3
Message-ID: <000501c628e1$605a6f90$6500a8c0@DAVIDXP>

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                 All the News that Fits We Link
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               Northwestern University Athletics

BASKETBALL

     Men
     Still Kicking and shooting
 
http://www.dailynorthwestern.com/vnews/display.v/ART/2006/02/03/43e300b6740fc 

     Saturday its Michigan State
     Tom Izzo's team is absolutely missing in action...

     Other Big 10
     Not much here either...
     Prince:Illini First Team to 20 Wins
      http://illinois.scout.com/2/495756.html 

     Women
     `Cats Bested by Spartans, 79-59
        http://nusports.collegesports.com/sports/w-baskbl/recaps/020206aab.html 
     + Old troubles re-emerge to haunt Cats in home loss
 
http://www.dailynorthwestern.com/vnews/display.v/ART/2006/02/03/43e304a202564 
     + NU's shooting a lone bright spot in defeat
 
http://www.dailynorthwestern.com/vnews/display.v/ART/2006/02/03/43e303d5be8d4 

     From MSU
     Michigan State cruises by Northwestern
 
http://www.detnews.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20060203/SPORTS02/602030361/11
32/SPORTS0202 
     + No. 17 Spartans Tame Wildcats, 79-59
      http://msuspartans.collegesports.com/sports/w-baskbl/recaps/020206aaa.html

     + Spartans refocus, defeat Northwestern 79-59
      http://www.statenews.com/article.phtml?pk=34427 
     + Michigan State cruises past Northwestern
 
http://www.mlive.com/sportsflash/college/index.ssf?/base/sports-6/11389424932347
90.xml&storylist=bigten 
     + Spartans too much for Wildcats
 
http://www.greenandwhite.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20060203/GW0202/60203034
2/1023/GW 
     + Lucas-Perry powers Spartans past 'Cats
 
http://www.freep.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20060203/SPORTS07/602030507/1055


FOOTBALL

     Garrick McGee - a former QB - is reported to be in line to take over...
     California dreamin' for NU coordinator
 
http://chicagosports.chicagotribune.com/sports/college/cs-060202nufb,1,6728367.s
tory?coll=cs-college-headlines 
     + Tedford Hires Northwestern Offensive Coordinator
      http://calbears.collegesports.com/sports/m-footbl/spec-rel/020206aai.html 
     + Dunbar leaves Northwestern to become Cal offensive coordinator
 
http://www.pioneerlocal.com/cgi-bin/ppo-story/sports/current/ev/02-02-06-811020.
html 
     + Northwestern offensive whiz joins Tedford's staff
 
http://sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/chronicle/archive/2006/02/03/SPG0DH2BAE
1.DTL 
     + Cal to spread offense after hiring Dunbar
      http://www.insidebayarea.com/calsports/ci_3471714 
     + Cal Hires NU's Offensive Coordinator Dunbar
      http://chicago.comcastsportsnet.com/view_content.asp?ID=24291 

     Rick Morrissey: NU boosters get their kicks at kid's expense
 
http://chicagosports.chicagotribune.com/sports/college/northwestern/cs-060202mor
rissey,1,5131758.column?coll=cs-college-nwestern-print 

RECRUITING

     Wildcats expect 17 letters of intent
 
http://www.pioneerlocal.com/cgi-bin/ppo-story/sports/current/ev/02-02-06-819626.
html 
     MSU news guys talking a lot about recruiting, even still
     Recruiting rankings often prove inaccurate down road
 
http://www.greenandwhite.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20060203/GW01/602030348/
1023/GW 
     + Elite recruits enrolling early at MSU
 
http://www.freep.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20060201/SPORTS09/602010432/1055
/SPORTS07 

     Lee Coleman: Area's best raise the bar [Slide down to East Hall]
 
http://www.gainesvilletimes.com/news/stories/20060202/localsports/63195.shtml 
     Football Signing Day
      http://bigten.collegesports.com/sports/m-footbl/spec-rel/020106aac.html 

BASEBALL

     Signing Day, can the season start be far behind?
     2006 Schedule
 
http://www.fansonly.com/schools/nw/sports/m-basebl/sched/nw-m-basebl-sched.html 

LACROSSE

     Wildcats tame silver medalists
 
http://www.pioneerlocal.com/cgi-bin/ppo-story/sports/current/ev/02-02-06-818901.
html 

SOFTBALL

     2006 Schedule
 
http://www.fansonly.com/schools/nw/sports/w-softbl/sched/nw-w-softbl-sched.html 

SWIMMING

     Diver made impact on water, team
 
http://www.dailynorthwestern.com/vnews/display.v/ART/2006/02/03/43e2f5cdc6b66 

TENNIS

     No. 4 Northwestern Falls to No. 18 California at USTA-ITA Indoor
Championships
      http://nusports.collegesports.com/sports/w-tennis/recaps/020206aaa.html 

WRESTLING

     16th-Ranked Wildcats Host Ohio State, No. 3 Illinois in Conference
Home-Opening Weekend
      http://nusports.collegesports.com/sports/m-wrestl/spec-rel/020206aac.html 
     + Wrestlers look to peak against No. 3 Illini, Ohio State
 
http://www.dailynorthwestern.com/vnews/display.v/ART/2006/02/03/43e2f61ddc758 
     + Wrestling venue changed for Sunday
 
http://www.pioneerlocal.com/cgi-bin/ppo-story/sports/current/ev/02-02-06-816673.
html 

MISCELLANY

     Bad news for Illinois, Bradley
     Brand stands firm on mascots
      http://www.dailyherald.com/sports/illinois.asp?id=149980 
     + Brand says NCAA won't back down on mascots
      http://rssfeeds.usatoday.com/UsatodaycomCollegeFootball-TopStories?m=503 

     Turn down those i-pods
     Apple sued for future hearing loss
      http://www.electricnews.net/news.html?code=9667312 

Alumni

     Purple Ponderings, v.3 no.3
      http://www.mopsquad.com/artman/publish/article_4799.htm 

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From tbng at suscom.net  Fri Feb  3 11:09:45 2006
From: tbng at suscom.net (Dennis W. Brandt)
Date: Fri Feb  3 11:19:27 2006
Subject: [NU Sports] Morrissey's article
References: <000501c628e1$605a6f90$6500a8c0@DAVIDXP>
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Mr. Morrissey wrote, "But if some of these people would take a step back, 
they might realize they're obsessing on kids playing a kid's sport."

I wish it were so, Rick, but t'ain't.  Frankly, sports writers obsess just 
as much on those collegiate athletes.  If not, they wouldn't have jobs.

Morrissey added, "Please don't tell me that if they're old enough to fight a 
war, they're old enough to be ridiculed."

There are lots of folks in this country saying much worse things about 
Howell-aged boys and girls fighting in Iraq - not the policy, the kids 
themselves.

I say, good for Coach Walker.  He stood up for his player, and that was the 
right thing to do.  I suspect the crowd reaction, tasteless as it may have 
been, was less aimed at Joel Howells than the long string of bad kickers and 
special teams players Walker has recruited.  (Howells did not lose the Sun 
Bowl however badly he kicked; a pathetic defense did.)  But one reason for 
Walker's success in 2000 was a fellow named Tony Long who hit the big ones. 
Since then, special teams on the NU football team hasn't been a job, it's 
been an adventure, too often one with an unhappy ending.


From rstetson at capps-assoc.com  Fri Feb  3 08:56:28 2006
From: rstetson at capps-assoc.com (Roy Lamberton)
Date: Fri Feb  3 12:15:35 2006
Subject: [NU Sports] Another "Class Act Coach" Comment
In-Reply-To: <216.120a901c.311418b1@aol.com>
Message-ID: <002a01c628d2$02d69ba0$6500a8c0@DAVIDXP>

Here's the other side of the "dump RW" over his comments issue...

Rick Morrissey: NU boosters get their kicks at kid's expense
http://chicagosports.chicagotribune.com/sports/college/northwestern/cs-060202mor
rissey,1,5131758.column?coll=cs-college-nwestern-print

It seems to me that the comments about some of the "alums" was made to defend
his player...

That's a good thing

rsl

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Perhaps Walker's 
> reputation is hindering our ability to attract more highly 
> regarded recruits.  
> Bob Schooler 


From cherron604 at aol.com  Fri Feb  3 12:37:29 2006
From: cherron604 at aol.com (cherron604@aol.com)
Date: Fri Feb  3 12:41:23 2006
Subject: [NU Sports] More piling on
Message-ID: <8C7F70805AB4F08-12C8-6F9A@MBLK-M04.sysops.aol.com>

Today the Tribune's Rick Morrissey jumps on the pile:
 
http://www.chicagotribune.com/sports/columnists/cs-060202morrissey,1,2977030.column?coll=chi-sportsnew-hed
 
What he is basically saying is that the boosters in attendance were jerks, not thoughtful compassionate people like he and RW (people who know the real importance of sport).
 
This raises several questions:
 
- Was Rick Morrissey even at the announcement ?  Unlikely, since some other Tribune staffer wrote the original story.  If not, did he base this column on his reading of the Tribune story ?  Or was it planted by RW or someone else on Central St to help cover for RW's crude remarks ?  Or is it just the typical knee-jerk column, written in a fit of self-righteousness, based on no first-hand knowledge whatsoever ?
 
- For anyone who was at the announcement - who exactly interpreted the crowd noise during the Demos video to be "jeering directed against Joel Howells" ?  Could it have been jeering directed at a coaching staff that has ignored the kicking position for a long time ?  Or was it even jeering at all ?   When did the brilliant Randy Walker or Rick Morrissey get degrees or specialized training in interpreting (or even recognizing) "sarcastic cheering" ?
 
- We need an eyewitness to try and describe the cheering, and unless comments were made specifically targetting Howells, who can say who or what the targets of the allegedly "sarcastic cheers" were ?  From what I have read, the only individual to implicitly or explicitly connect Joel Howells to any of this was RW himself, not anybody in the crowd that he later belittled.
 
Unless any of the "sarcastic cheering" was explicitly targetted at Joel Howells BY NAME (indeed, the video was supposed to have been of Demos, and no video of Howells was shown, to my knowledge) then no one can state WITH CERTAINTY that such cheering was directed at anybody other than the people in the room (i.e. the coaches) or the individuals on the screen (i.e. the new recruit).   Since the latter makes no sense, any sarcasm "sensed" in the room (by that master of sensing sarcasm, RW) must have been directed at the coaching staff.  Since sarcasm involves tone and nuance, it by definition cannot be directed at anyone not able to sense that tone or nuance, can it ?
 
And while we are on this topic, why didn't any of the high-priced staff on Central St figure out that this circumstance might have lead to uncomfortable "sarcasm", and maybe spared the audience the videos of the kicker, which probably did not add much substance to the announcement anyway.  (or perhaps save the media (and the world) from the uncomfortable prospect of RW speaking off the cuff)
 
Chuck Herron   Tech '85
   
 
From tkmaycock at yahoo.com  Fri Feb  3 12:47:51 2006
From: tkmaycock at yahoo.com (Tom Maycock)
Date: Fri Feb  3 12:49:01 2006
Subject: [NU Sports] Another "Class Act Coach" Comment
In-Reply-To: <002a01c628d2$02d69ba0$6500a8c0@DAVIDXP>
Message-ID: <20060203184751.8363.qmail@web33111.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

> It seems to me that the comments about some of the "alums" was made
> to defend his player...
> 
> That's a good thing
> 

I thought the same thing.

Of course, I also tend to find all these public internet discussions
about the integrity and character (or perceived lack thereof) of
coaches and administrators, etc. fairly disturbing. I'm probably in the
minority on that too.

Tom



From cherron604 at aol.com  Fri Feb  3 11:12:57 2006
From: cherron604 at aol.com (cherron604@aol.com)
Date: Fri Feb  3 13:16:07 2006
Subject: [NU Sports] Another "Class Act Coach" Comment
In-Reply-To: <002901c628d0$35869980$6500a8c0@DAVIDXP>
Message-ID: <8C7F6FC369FFD6A-1288-6CD2@MBLK-M01.sysops.aol.com>

Today the Tribune's Rick Morrissey jumps on the pile:
 
http://www.chicagotribune.com/sports/columnists/cs-060202morrissey,1,2977030.column?coll=chi-sportsnew-hed
 
What he is basically saying is that the boosters in attendance were jerks, not thoughtful compassionate people like he and RW (people who know the real importance of sport).
 
This raises several questions:
 
- Was Rick Morrissey even at the announcement ?  Unlikely, since some other Tribune staffer wrote the original story.  If not, did he base this column on his reading of the Tribune story ?  Or was it planted by RW or someone else on Central St to help cover for RW's crude remarks ?  Or is it just the typical knee-jerk column, written in a fit of self-righteousness, based on no first-hand knowledge whatsoever ?
 
- For anyone who was at the announcement - who exactly interpreted the crowd noise during the Demos video to be "jeering directed against Joel Howells" ?  Could it have been jeering directed at a coaching staff that has ignored the kicking position for a long time ?  Or was it even jeering at all ?   When did the brilliant Randy Walker or Rick Morrissey get degrees or specialized training in interpreting (or even recognizing) "sarcastic cheering" ?
 
- We need an eyewitness to try and describe the cheering, and unless comments were made specifically targetting Howells, who can say who or what the targets of the allegedly "sarcastic cheers" were ?  From what I have read, the only individual to implicitly or explicitly connect Joel Howells to any of this was RW himself, not anybody in the crowd that he later belittled.
 
Unless any of the "sarcastic cheering" was explicitly targetted at Joel Howells BY NAME (indeed, the video was supposed to have been of Demos, and no video of Howells was shown, to my knowledge) then no one can state WITH CERTAINTY that such cheering was directed at anybody other than the people in the room (i.e. the coaches) or the individuals on the screen (i.e. the new recruit).   Since the latter makes no sense, any sarcasm "sensed" in the room (by that master of sensing sarcasm, RW) must have been directed at the coaching staff.  Since sarcasm involves tone and nuance, it by definition cannot be directed at anyone not able to sense that tone or nuance, can it ?
 
And while we are on this topic, why didn't any of the high-priced staff on Central St figure out that this circumstance might have lead to uncomfortable "sarcasm", and maybe spared the audience the videos of the kicker, which probably did not add much substance to the announcement anyway.  (or perhaps save the media (and the world) from the uncomfortable prospect of RW speaking off the cuff)
 
Chuck Herron   Tech '85
   
 
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From: Roy Lamberton <rstetson@capps-assoc.com>
To: BSchooler@aol.com; nwu-sports@romaine.tssi.com
Sent: Fri, 3 Feb 2006 09:43:34 -0500
Subject: RE: [NU Sports] Another "Class Act Coach" Comment


1. Walker has never commented on former coaches - he said nothing that I
remember about Jeff Genyk or Kevin Wilson until he and Wolf got a press release
out. That's the way he works...

2. From the signing day story about WR Lee Coleman; "The coaching staff was so
loving, it was hard to turn them down,"

Hmmmm

rsl

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> -----Original Message-----
> From: nwu-sports-bounces@tssi.com 
> [mailto:nwu-sports-bounces@tssi.com] On Behalf Of BSchooler@aol.com
> Sent: Thursday, February 02, 2006 9:24 PM
> To: nwu-sports@romaine.tssi.com
> Subject: [NU Sports] Another "Class Act Coach" Comment
> 
> 
> >From the Evanston Review:
>  
> "When asked about Dunbar following Northwestern's signing day 
> announcements 
> Wednesday night, head coach Randy Walker simply said, "He's 
> gone.'' Walker 
> refused to answer any further questions until a formal 
> release was made 
> available." 
> Why does Walker have to wait for a formal press release before saying 
> something nice about Mike Dunbar; someone he's worked with 
> for four years and who 
> made a positive contribution to Northwestern football? No 
> expressions of 
> gratitude. No good wishes. Instead, all we hear is, "He's 
> gone". Nice guy, that Randy 
> Walker. 
> Comments like this contribute to one's reputation. Perhaps Walker's 
> reputation is hindering our ability to attract more highly 
> regarded recruits.  
> Bob Schooler 
> 
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From tbng at suscom.net  Fri Feb  3 13:45:58 2006
From: tbng at suscom.net (Dennis W. Brandt)
Date: Fri Feb  3 13:46:59 2006
Subject: [NU Sports] The Long and the short of it
References: <020320061801.29823.43E39A97000C74030000747F2207021573970A040B079D00D29C@comcast.net>
Message-ID: <001701c628fa$7550ea50$c102a8c0@DENNISMACHINE>

> While giving credit where it's due, let me note a small correction:  our 
> kicker a few years back was Tim Long, not Tony.
>
In any case, he was a Longfellow, never Tim-id, and Tony the Tiger when he 
kicked.  Best of all, he was from Pennsylvania!  (Altoona, where both the 
girls and the train tracks have curves) 

From mlinhardt at netzero.net  Fri Feb  3 14:23:55 2006
From: mlinhardt at netzero.net (mlinhardt@netzero.net)
Date: Fri Feb  3 15:26:05 2006
Subject: [NU Sports] More Trai articles
Message-ID: <20060203.122415.16359.186413@webmail52.nyc.untd.com>

The Fort Wayne Journal Gazette
Essex is catching on to his life on the line
http://www.fortwayne.com/mld/journalgazette/13762701.htm

“It wasn’t my idea. It was definitely coach (Randy) Walker’s decision,” Essex said. “He said it was the best thing for my future, and it turns out he was right. I owe him all the thanks in the world, even though I didn’t like it when he told me (I was being moved). When he told me I wouldn’t be catching balls, I was like, ‘Man.’”


USA Today
Media day hardly a three-ring circus
http://www.usatoday.com/sports/football/super/2006-01-31-media-day-feature_x.htm


Signing Day
The media presence at the press conference was sparse.  In past years there were 3-5 TV cameras with network logos.  This year neither camera had a logo.  Most of the reporters present appeared to be under 25, which suggests Daily, WNUR, etc. or recently out-of-school "cub" reporters.  I did not see any "grizzled" veterans.

Defending his players is very admirable, but he walks a fine line in regards to mocking the "boosters", which in are case are almost guaranted to be alumns.  His comments in regards to the Iowa victory and that Howells made 9/10 within 40 yards were sufficient defense.  He could have followed it up with words that are less derogatory towards the "boosters".

As I said in an earlier post neither of us clapped for Demos.  We both feel our special teams problems go way beyond just a kicker.

We are going to the fast break club reception before the MSU game.  Would it be tacky to ask Murphy a question regarding Dunbar?

Marc Linhardt
Tech '93


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From s.fridley at comcast.net  Fri Feb  3 12:01:59 2006
From: s.fridley at comcast.net (s.fridley@comcast.net)
Date: Fri Feb  3 16:06:35 2006
Subject: [NU Sports] Morrissey's article
Message-ID: <020320061801.29823.43E39A97000C74030000747F2207021573970A040B079D00D29C@comcast.net>

This happens infrequently, so let me note it when it happens.  I agree with everything Dennis said.    Our kicking game hasn't been very good if the last several years.  It was actually more reliable this year with Howells than it's been in the past.

So it's unfortunate that the cheering FOR Demos was [understandably] interpreted not just as cheering for Demos along with a probable swipe at Walker, but also as an attack on Howells.

I also salute Walker for publically standing up for his player.

While giving credit where it's due, let me note a small correction:  our kicker a few years back was Tim Long, not Tony.


 -------------- Original message ----------------------
From: "Dennis W. Brandt" <tbng@suscom.net>
> Mr. Morrissey wrote, "But if some of these people would take a step back, 
> they might realize they're obsessing on kids playing a kid's sport."
> 
> I wish it were so, Rick, but t'ain't.  Frankly, sports writers obsess just 
> as much on those collegiate athletes.  If not, they wouldn't have jobs.
> 
> Morrissey added, "Please don't tell me that if they're old enough to fight a 
> war, they're old enough to be ridiculed."
> 
> There are lots of folks in this country saying much worse things about 
> Howell-aged boys and girls fighting in Iraq - not the policy, the kids 
> themselves.
> 
> I say, good for Coach Walker.  He stood up for his player, and that was the 
> right thing to do.  I suspect the crowd reaction, tasteless as it may have 
> been, was less aimed at Joel Howells than the long string of bad kickers and 
> special teams players Walker has recruited.  (Howells did not lose the Sun 
> Bowl however badly he kicked; a pathetic defense did.)  But one reason for 
> Walker's success in 2000 was a fellow named Tony Long who hit the big ones. 
> Since then, special teams on the NU football team hasn't been a job, it's 
> been an adventure, too often one with an unhappy ending.
> 
> 
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From jeffb at hilgraeve.com  Fri Feb  3 15:44:07 2006
From: jeffb at hilgraeve.com (Jeff Beamsley)
Date: Fri Feb  3 17:09:26 2006
Subject: [NU Sports] More Trai articles
In-Reply-To: <20060203.122415.16359.186413@webmail52.nyc.untd.com>
Message-ID: <014201c6290a$f5fb0b80$97492745@hilgraeve.com>

Marc,

Since you have already been labeled as part of the horde of rude,
insensitive, unreasonable alums, it may be a little late to worry about
decorum. <g>

I'd suggest going in a clown suit and using an air horn.

Jeff
 

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The Fort Wayne Journal Gazette
Essex is catching on to his life on the line
http://www.fortwayne.com/mld/journalgazette/13762701.htm

"It wasn't my idea. It was definitely coach (Randy) Walker's decision,"
Essex said. "He said it was the best thing for my future, and it turns out
he was right. I owe him all the thanks in the world, even though I didn't
like it when he told me (I was being moved). When he told me I wouldn't be
catching balls, I was like, 'Man.'"


USA Today
Media day hardly a three-ring circus
http://www.usatoday.com/sports/football/super/2006-01-31-media-day-feature_x
.htm


Signing Day
The media presence at the press conference was sparse.  In past years there
were 3-5 TV cameras with network logos.  This year neither camera had a
logo.  Most of the reporters present appeared to be under 25, which suggests
Daily, WNUR, etc. or recently out-of-school "cub" reporters.  I did not see
any "grizzled" veterans.

Defending his players is very admirable, but he walks a fine line in regards
to mocking the "boosters", which in are case are almost guaranted to be
alumns.  His comments in regards to the Iowa victory and that Howells made
9/10 within 40 yards were sufficient defense.  He could have followed it up
with words that are less derogatory towards the "boosters".

As I said in an earlier post neither of us clapped for Demos.  We both feel
our special teams problems go way beyond just a kicker.

We are going to the fast break club reception before the MSU game.  Would it
be tacky to ask Murphy a question regarding Dunbar?

Marc Linhardt
Tech '93


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From mlinhardt at netzero.net  Fri Feb  3 14:34:48 2006
From: mlinhardt at netzero.net (mlinhardt@netzero.net)
Date: Fri Feb  3 17:28:00 2006
Subject: [NU Sports] Another "Class Act Coach" Comment
Message-ID: <20060203.123536.16359.186511@webmail52.nyc.untd.com>

I think every year there is a glaring weakness exhibited by one position.  That position always gets a little extra attention from the crowd.  If for example our wide receivers had dropped multiple balls during the bowl game any comment by RW regarding a prospect with soft/sure hands would have gotten some clapping.

I thought the clapping was short and within good taste.  RW "incited" the audience a bit by saying during the video that Demos choose to kick off the ground his senior year, which prepares him for college rules.  A young reporter(Daily/WNUR?) asked a question about Demos and that is where RW initially defended Howells.  That defense talked about the Iowa game and his 9/10 within 40 yards.

-- cherron604@aol.com wrote:
- For anyone who was at the announcement - who exactly interpreted the crowd noise during the Demos video to be "jeering directed against Joel Howells" ?  Could it have been jeering directed at a coaching staff that has ignored the kicking position for a long time ?  Or was it even jeering at all ?   When did the brilliant Randy Walker or Rick Morrissey get degrees or specialized training in interpreting (or even recognizing) "sarcastic cheering" ?
 
- We need an eyewitness to try and describe the cheering, and unless comments were made specifically targetting Howells, who can say who or what the targets of the allegedly "sarcastic cheers" were ?  From what I have read, the only individual to implicitly or explicitly connect Joel Howells to any of this was RW himself, not anybody in the crowd that he later belittled.
 
Unless any of the "sarcastic cheering" was explicitly targetted at Joel Howells BY NAME (indeed, the video was supposed to have been of Demos, and no video of Howells was shown, to my knowledge) then no one can state WITH CERTAINTY that such cheering was directed at anybody other than the people in the room (i.e. the coaches) or the individuals on the screen (i.e. the new recruit).   Since the latter makes no sense, any sarcasm "sensed" in the room (by that master of sensing sarcasm, RW) must have been directed at the coaching staff.  Since sarcasm involves tone and nuance, it by definition cannot be directed at anyone not able to sense that tone or nuance, can it ?
 
And while we are on this topic, why didn't any of the high-priced staff on Central St figure out that this circumstance might have lead to uncomfortable "sarcasm", and maybe spared the audience the videos of the kicker, which probably did not add much substance to the announcement anyway.  (or perhaps save the media (and the world) from the uncomfortable prospect of RW speaking off the cuff)



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From cherron604 at aol.com  Fri Feb  3 17:45:16 2006
From: cherron604 at aol.com (cherron604@aol.com)
Date: Fri Feb  3 17:49:39 2006
Subject: [NU Sports] Curse Meanderings
Message-ID: <8C7F73304F1CDAB-B48-45E7@mblk-r28.sysops.aol.com>

Since the Trib picked up on the 'Curse' topic yesterday, I figured that I had better look into it a little more. 
 
Of the 39 Super Bowl Champions before this year, 8 were repeats, i.e. back-to back titles.  This means it is actually closer to 31 different 'teams' that have won the Super Bowl.  You could also argue that the 4 Steeler wins, the two 49er wins in '81 and '84, the 3 Cowboy wins in 4 years ('92, '93 and '95) and the 3 Patriot wins in 4 years ('01, '03 and '04) makes for 27 'virtual champions'.  At 40 players per winner, thats about 1100 players on winning Super Bowl teams (all vague, back of the envelope calculations).
 
So what is the likelihood that at least one other 'major' University had none of those 1100 players ?
 
(There might be a way to calculate that probabilistically, but I have totally forgotten how...)
 
So I looked at some of our more forlorn peers.
 
Duke and Vanderbilt didn't really have good listings of their NFL Alumni (that I could find).
 
Only eight times has an Indiana Hoosier participated in the Super Bowl
 
VII  Doug Crusan        72 Miami   WIN
VIII Doug Crusan        73 Miami   WIN
XXX Hurvin McCormack  95 Dallas   WIN
 
VI  Terry Cole            71 Miami   Lose
VI  Doug Crusan         71 Miami   Lose
XVIII Babe Laufenberg   83 Washington (Lose - did not play)
XXXIII Don Stryzinski    98 Atlanta  Lose 
XXXVIII Kemp Rasmussen  03 Carolina Lose
 
So having a few Dolphins in the 70's helped the Hossiers.
 
Rice's recent history is pretty bleak, but a Rice alum has played in a surprising 12 Super Bowls
 
And even more surprising, the Rice grad has been on the winning side 9 of those 12 times
 
These both seem pretty high, based on what Rice has done in the last few decades.
 
XI  Rodrigo Barnes     76 Oakland    WIN
XVI Earl Cooper         81 San Francisco   WIN
XVII Darryl Grant       82 Washington   WIN
XIX  Earl Cooper        84 San Francisco   WIN
XXII  Darryl Grant      87 Washington      WIN
XXXV OJ Brigance      00 Baltimore         WIN
XXXVI Larry Izzo        01 New England    WIN
XXXVIII Larry Izzo      03 New England    WIN
XXXIX  Larry Izzo       04 New England    WIN
 
XVIII  Darryl Grant      83 Washington     Lose
XXXIV Spencer George  99 Tennessee    (inactive - Lose)
XXXVI  OJ Brigance      01 St Louis        Lose
 
A big part of this seems to be that the bulk of Super Bowl rosters are linemen (18-20 out of 40).  And for a large portion of the 40 years in question, we were not putting nearly as many legitimate NFL lineman candidates on the field as other programs were (thanks, Bob Strotz).
 
Hoping to rescue our reputation, and find at least one other program without a winner...
 
Chuck Herron   Tech '85
From trip72 at comcast.net  Sat Feb  4 08:54:46 2006
From: trip72 at comcast.net (trip72@comcast.net)
Date: Sat Feb  4 08:55:34 2006
Subject: [NU Sports] Please unsubscribe me.  Thanks. 
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There are just too many e-mails each day clogging up my inbox.  Thanks. 

From becherw at comcast.net  Fri Feb  3 06:30:08 2006
From: becherw at comcast.net (becherw@comcast.net)
Date: Sat Feb  4 10:18:08 2006
Subject: [NU Sports] 'Class-Act' Coach
Message-ID: <020320061230.15946.43E34CD0000A384600003E4A2200758942999D0A080C0A0D@comcast.net>

Hello, boys and girls,

I find myself in agreement with our beloved coach. For the first time since I have been going to NU games, I have to say that I saw quite a bit of boorish behavior from our own fans. Quite frankly, I saw a lot of purple jerks in the stands. And it was their faces that were purple from yelling out their crap at Randy the whole game. We get it already, you hate the coach.  Wow! I can't imagine why Randy would want to "dis" you.

Becher Williams 


 -------------- Original message ----------------------
From: cherron604@aol.com
> Just saw this in this morning's Tribune - here's our 'Class-Act' coach dissing 
> his own fans (page 9, under the headline 'Kicker gives alumni spirits a lift"):
>  
> The context of the story is that a video of Demos was shown, and greeted with 
> cheers.
>  
> "I consider the source," coach Randy Walker said later: "Nobody out there has 
> ever walked into an arena with 50,000 people and had to make a kick that meant 
> anything.  He didn't have his best day [in the Sun Bowl], but it's unfair when 
> people have no idea, no clue what it's like in that place."
>  
> (Can't get the exact link from the Tribune web-site - it is subscribers-only.  
> Maybe there will be a link to the quote in the Sun-Times or Daily Herald)
>  
> Apart from the wisdom of a sub-.500 coach, with plummeting attendance, ripping 
> his own fans, did it ever occur to the Central St brain trust that video of a 
> good kicker might make the fans happy, even cheer ?  If they did not want them 
> cheering, why even show the video ?  And this crowd probably included some of 
> the program's most loyal fans - why is he ripping them ?
>  
> And I do not believe that any fans have anything against Joel Howells.  He is a 
> kicker placed into a bad situation (walk-on), and he did his best.  If they are 
> mad at anybody, it is at a mean-spirited, bunker-mentalitied coaching staff that 
> puts players into bad situations, then blames the fans.
>  
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From spiritu at northwestern.edu  Sat Feb  4 14:29:49 2006
From: spiritu at northwestern.edu (Jonathan Michael Hawkins)
Date: Sat Feb  4 17:40:20 2006
Subject: [NU Sports] Please unsubscribe me.  Thanks.
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From nolan at romaine.tssi.com  Sat Feb  4 17:55:22 2006
From: nolan at romaine.tssi.com (Mike Nolan)
Date: Sat Feb  4 17:55:25 2006
Subject: [NU Sports] Please unsubscribe me.  Thanks. (fwd)
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> As a public service announcement, I'd like to encourage others who are 
> uncomfortable dealing with the amount of email coming from this list to 
> take a few moments and setup an email filter.  This is relatively painless 
> in most email programs.  You can just set it to filter on "if the subject 
> contains [NU Sports], then filter it to my mail folder."  Then you can 
> read when you want! :)

Subscribers can also switch to digest mode.  Most of the time, that will
result in getting just one digest per day, though during really active 
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From NEONRye at aol.com  Sun Feb  5 18:58:31 2006
From: NEONRye at aol.com (NEONRye@aol.com)
Date: Sun Feb  5 19:20:16 2006
Subject: [NU Sports] Kevin Bentley
Message-ID: <1c4.394f62e5.3117f937@aol.com>

Not the best way to get known at the Super Bowl--a flag on a return with a  
Holding Penalty.  NU just has bad karma at Ford Field, I guess.
 
Paul Levinson
From rstetson at capps-assoc.com  Sun Feb  5 22:06:16 2006
From: rstetson at capps-assoc.com (Roy Lamberton)
Date: Sun Feb  5 22:06:29 2006
Subject: [NU Sports] The Curse continues
Message-ID: <000a01c62ad2$ad1103b0$6500a8c0@DAVIDXP>

Unless Trai Essex was actually active for the game, the Seahawks loss to the
Steelers adds another name to the list...

More on Monday

rsl

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From johnl at mac.com  Mon Feb  6 00:19:37 2006
From: johnl at mac.com (John Labbe)
Date: Mon Feb  6 00:20:00 2006
Subject: [NU Sports] The Curse continues
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Hmph.  I think this link answer the question.  Essex was not active for 
the game.

http://www.superbowl.com/gamecenter/gamebook/NFL_20060205_SEA@PIT


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> to the
> Steelers adds another name to the list...
>
> More on Monday
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From rstetson at capps-assoc.com  Mon Feb  6 09:35:21 2006
From: rstetson at capps-assoc.com (Roy Lamberton)
Date: Mon Feb  6 09:42:34 2006
Subject: [NU Sports] NU Sports News Digest 2/6
Message-ID: <000d01c62b32$f0cd8dc0$6500a8c0@DAVIDXP>

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for Purple Reign
& the NU Sports List

Super Bowl Weekend Wrap Edition

Wrapping up Super Bowl weekend for the Wildcats - Basketball has mixed results
as the Lady Court Cats take their 2nd Big 10 win.  Wrestling has a Big Win over
Illinois, Women's Tennis continues their winning 
ways, Miscellany and Alumni news too...

                                                                  All the News
that Fits We Link
                                                                      Your Index
to News about
                                                                    Northwestern
University Athletics

BASKETBALL

     Men
     Wildcats Drop 77-66 Decison to No. 12 Michigan State
      http://nusports.collegesports.com/sports/m-baskbl/recaps/020406aaa.html 
     + Spartans win a foul affair
 
http://chicagosports.chicagotribune.com/sports/college/northwestern/cs-060205030
2feb05,1,818660.story?coll=cs-college-nwestern-print 
     + Push comes to shove, Spartans prevail
      http://www.suntimes.com/output/campus/cst-spt-nu05.html 
     + Wildcats lacking vs. Spartans
      http://www.dailyherald.com/sports/northwestern.asp?id=150913 
     + No. 12 Michigan State 77, Northwestern 66
      http://www.dailysouthtown.com/southtown/dssports/pro/051sd7.htm 
     + McBride too late to save Illinois
      http://www.nwherald.com/SportsSection/college/360472748945826.php 
     + NU can't hang with Michigan St.
      http://www.nwherald.com/SportsSection/college/360474215693108.php 
     + Michigan State?s Big Three slams past NU 
 
http://www.dailynorthwestern.com/vnews/display.v/ART/2006/02/06/43e6e875ac2ac 
     + Cot? posts best game of conference season in loss
 
http://www.dailynorthwestern.com/vnews/display.v/ART/2006/02/06/43e6e94111b4c 
     + Brown, Ager lead No. 12 Spartans past Northwestern
 
http://www.sportsnetwork.com/default.asp?c=sportsnetwork&page=cbask/news/AEN4002
778.htm 
     + Spartans bruise and batter Cats
      http://www.nuhoops.com/2006/02/spartans_bruise_and_batter_cat.html 

     Cats can?t hang with big boys
 
http://www.dailynorthwestern.com/vnews/display.v/ART/2006/02/06/43e6e7d9e2554 

     Michigan State
     No. 12 Michigan State Upends Northwestern, 77-66
      http://msuspartans.collegesports.com/sports/m-baskbl/recaps/020406aaa.html

     $ MSU BEATS NORTHWESTERN
      http://story.scout.com/a.z?s=179&p=2&c=497076 
     + Rebounds key MSU victory vs. Wildcats
      http://www.statenews.com/article.phtml?pk=34465 
     + Davis contributes 16 points in game back after head injury
      http://www.statenews.com/article.phtml?pk=34466 
     + Much-needed road win a sigh of relief
      http://www.statenews.com/article.phtml?pk=34467 
     + Spartans struggle, but hold off Northwestern
 
http://www.mlive.com/spartans/stories/index.ssf?/base/sports-0/113913782793430.x
ml&coll=1 
     + Izzo harps on MSU's subpar rebounding
 
http://www.mlive.com/spartans/stories/index.ssf?/base/sports-0/1139008203201010.
xml&coll=1 
     + Davis back, MSU downs 'Cats
 
http://www.greenandwhite.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20060205/GW0201/60205070
7/1023/GW 
     + Boards are back
 
http://www.greenandwhite.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20060205/GW0201/60205071
0/1023/GW 
     + MSU passes Izzo boards
 
http://www.detnews.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20060205/SPORTS0202/602050313/
1132 

     Next Up is Iowa
     Hawkeyes see red, stand alone atop Big Ten
      http://www.suntimes.com/output/campus/cst-spt-1big05.html 
     $ Haluska: "Coach has got our back"
      http://iowa.scout.com/2/497102.html 
     $ Brunner: "It's going to be fun"
      http://iowa.scout.com/2/497096.html 
     + Hot Hawks continue surge
 
http://www.dailyiowan.com/news/2006/02/06/Sports/Hot-Hawks.Continue.Surge-159926
6.shtml 
     + Hoops are fun again
 
http://www.dailyiowan.com/news/2006/02/06/Sports/Hoops.Are.Fun.Again-1600035.sht
ml 
     + Iowa offense burns Michigan
      http://www.hawkcentral.com/ 
     + Black and gold magic is filling Carver-Hawkeye
 
http://www.hawkcentral.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20060205/HAWKS0102/6020503
15/1053/HAWKS 
     + Hot Hawks hope to avoid February flop
 
http://www.hawkcentral.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20060204/HAWKS0102/6020403
24/1053/HAWKS 
     + Iowa hopes to continue run in second half of Big Ten
 
http://www.radioiowa.com/gestalt/go.cfm?objectid=54F21D42-E9B6-4BBF-95D495CBA127
7ACA&dbtranslator=local.cfm 

     Other Big 10
     Time, streak finally expire for Illini
 
http://chicagosports.chicagotribune.com/sports/college/cs-060204illinigamer,1,60
22684.story?coll=cs-college-headlines 
     + Home streak hits 0.0
      http://www.suntimes.com/output/campus/cst-spt-ill05.html 
     + Penn State stuns Illinois
      http://www.dailyherald.com/sports/illinois.asp?id=150866 
     + Penn State 66, No. 6 Illinois 65
      http://www.dailysouthtown.com/southtown/dssports/pro/051sd6.htm 
     + Shock therapy prescribed for Illini
      http://www.suntimes.com/output/campus/cst-spt-ill06.html 

     Badgers can't undo Boilermakers' early steam
      http://www.suntimes.com/output/campus/cst-spt-3big05.html 

     Foster finds his touch for Buckeyes
      http://www.suntimes.com/output/campus/cst-spt-2big05.html 
     + OSU takes it to IU in rout
      http://www.fortwayne.com/mld/journalgazette/sports/13803667.htm 
     + Hoosiers aim to finish strong - Big Ten title still within reach
 
http://nwitimes.com/articles/2006/02/06/sports/college_sports/aae5201dc30f9ee186
25710d00041e13.txt 

     Indiana can't beat No. 1
      http://www.nwherald.com/SportsSection/college/55242290896969.php 

     Women
     Wildcats Down Badgers, 58-56
      http://nusports.collegesports.com/sports/w-baskbl/recaps/020506aae.html 
     + Late miss gives Cats home win
 
http://www.dailynorthwestern.com/vnews/display.v/ART/2006/02/06/43e6ea35a3f4f 
     + Okonkwo lifts team to victory scores 1,000th
 
http://www.dailynorthwestern.com/vnews/display.v/ART/2006/02/06/43e6e77c5d65e 

     Badger Sports Roundup
      http://story.scout.com/a.z?s=179&p=2&c=497157 
     + Badgers Lose Heartbreaker at Northwestern, 58-56
 
http://www.uwbadgers.com/sport_news/wbb/headlines/full_story.aspx?story_id=2006_
02_05_17_08_43_wbb 


FOOTBALL



RECRUITING

     WNUR: Read more of Dan's Signing Day conclusions here.
      http://sports.wnur.org/analysts/dg020406.html 
     Landry Fields Makes it a Super Sunday
 
http://scout.scout.com/a.z?s=179&p=9&c=2&cid=497082&nid=1677956&fhn=1&refid=4742

     Updates on some of our Female commits [And some Football recruiting news
too]
 
http://www.chicagotribune.com/sports/cs-060204recruitbits,0,6820375.story?coll=c
s-highschool-headlines 

SWIMMING

     No. 6 Michigan Drops No. 15 Northwestern, 166-125
      http://nusports.collegesports.com/sports/m-swim/recaps/020406aad.html 

TENNIS

     No. 4 Northwestern Tops No. 6 Georgia at USTA-ITA Women's Team Indoor
Championships
      http://nusports.collegesports.com/sports/w-tennis/recaps/020406aac.html 

     Wildcats Edge Harvard 4-3
      http://nusports.collegesports.com/sports/m-tennis/recaps/020506aab.html 

WRESTLING

     No. 16 Northwestern Wins Big Versus Buckeyes, 31-6
      http://nusports.collegesports.com/sports/m-wrestl/recaps/020306aad.html 
     No. 6 Michigan Drops No. 15 Northwestern, 166-125
      http://nusports.collegesports.com/sports/m-swim/recaps/020406aad.html 
     16th-Ranked Wildcats Knock Off No. 3 Illinois
      http://nusports.collegesports.com/sports/m-wrestl/recaps/020506aab.html 
     +  Illinois out-Foxed by Northwestern 
      http://www.dailyherald.com/sports/illinois.asp?id=151132 

MISCELLANY

     Northwestern Set To Honor 2005-06 Hall of Fame Induction Class
      http://nusports.collegesports.com/genrel/010906aaf.html 
     Wildcat Basketball Team to Celebrate National Girls and Women in Sports Day
      http://nusports.collegesports.com/sports/w-baskbl/spec-rel/012306aaa.html 
     NCAA ends hearing into OSU allegations; decision could take weeks 
      http://rssfeeds.usatoday.com/UsatodaycomCollegeFootball-TopStories?m=505 

Alumni

     Luke's first of 2006
     Luke Donald AT&T Pebble Beach National Pro-Am
      http://www.pgatour.com/tournaments/r005 
     + Golf Magazine interview
 
http://www.golfonline.com/golfonline/features/features/article/0,17742,1145787,0
0.html 
     + Donald proves he is major prospect with win against the elite
      http://www.timesonline.co.uk/article/0,,378-1922658,00.html 

     Trai Essex/Kevin Bentley: Random Thoughts: The end of the Jinx?
      http://northwestern.scout.com/2/497210.html 

     Mark Loretta: New faces to man Sox's middle infield
 
http://boston.redsox.mlb.com/NASApp/mlb/news/article.jsp?ymd=20060201&content_id
=1304574&vkey=news_bos&fext=.jsp&c_id=bos 

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From Martinitis at aol.com  Mon Feb  6 14:03:15 2006
From: Martinitis at aol.com (Martinitis@aol.com)
Date: Mon Feb  6 14:22:21 2006
Subject: [NU Sports] Please unsubscribe me.  Thanks.
Message-ID: <261.65acac4.31190583@aol.com>

 
In a message dated 2/4/2006 3:42:50 P.M. Pacific Standard Time,  
spiritu@northwestern.edu writes:

There  are just too many e-mails each day clogging up my  inbox.


And they are getting just too negative for my blood as  well.
From spiritu at northwestern.edu  Mon Feb  6 14:27:16 2006
From: spiritu at northwestern.edu (Jonathan Michael Hawkins)
Date: Mon Feb  6 16:36:39 2006
Subject: [NU Sports] Please unsubscribe me.  Thanks.
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On Mon, 6 Feb 2006, Martinitis@aol.com wrote:
> And they are getting just too negative for my blood as well.

<sigh>

Well, that's true.  Between focusing entirely on "The Curse" and the "I 
Love Jay Mariotti and Rick Telander [oh, and Fire Randy Walker, too!]" 
Brigade, I'm not sure how much of a "fan" list this is any more.  It used 
to be like 100% fan.  Maybe now it's 70% fan, 30% "I went to NU and have 
found that incessant negativity wins friends and influences people".

I'm pretty sure I could write "the weather's so nice out today" on the 
list and someone would come back with "No thanks to Randy Walker.  And if 
Mark Murphy doesn't fire him soon I'm going to continue to give my West 
Lot pass away to Michigan fans". ;-)

Okay, enough joking about.  For real, here's some positive ideas and 
commentary:

It's worth noting, and this is partially my fault, no one wrote in to talk 
about our 'Cats incredibly heart-filled performance on Saturday against 
Michigan State at home.  I'll try to rectify that - I was at the game and 
had a great time.

We lost, but I'm not sure I've ever seen a time when everyone played with 
the kind of guts and emotion that were displayed out there on the court on 
Saturday night.

We couldn't seem to get our open shots to fall as much as we wanted them 
to, but we did create those open looks and also gave MSU fits on defense. 
Most of the guys out there looked like they had the fires of hell behind 
their eyes.  At one point Cote was bending over under the basket to tie 
his shoe or something, MSU had gotten the rebound and was about to go down 
the court, and Vedran shoved some MSU guy who'd pissed him off.  The 
Spartan guy goes flying *over* Cote and lands in a heap.  No call. 
Vedran was on fire with anger and passion.  He fouled out with 2 minutes 
left, leaving to a prolonged standing ovation.

That no-call was typical of the evening, actually.  The referees were just 
horrid on both sides of the ball, but it certainly made the game more 
interesting.  Levels of ire increased on both sides due to the poor 
officiating, to the point where MSU tried to get into a fight with us at 
the end of the first half.  Michael Jenkins got a regular old foul (under 
the limit), but then there were offsetting technicals for fighting after 
the foul, and then one of the MSU assistant coaches got into it, which 
resulted in them having two Ts to our one.  So Vedran took two free throws 
and made them both.  Michigan State got the ball after that for Jenkins' 
original foul.  We were quite amused.

Moore drained some nice looking threes, and I think Carmody may be warming 
up to Cote - some of the postgame comments to Eanet indicated that we 
should probably see much more play time out of him in the rest of the 
season.  He went from 6 minutes vs. Indiana to 19 in Saturday's game.

Usually losses just crush me and leave me feeling tired and depressed, but 
this one was so entertaining and scrappy I just couldn't feel bad about 
it.

Hopefully we can translate that passion and intensity into some wins 
against lesser Big Ten teams than MSU.

Go 'Cats,

Jonathan

-- 
Jonathan Michael Hawkins
<http://www.jomiha.com>

From mlinhardt at netzero.net  Mon Feb  6 17:48:38 2006
From: mlinhardt at netzero.net (mlinhardt@netzero.net)
Date: Mon Feb  6 17:50:50 2006
Subject: [NU Sports] Please unsubscribe me.  Thanks.
Message-ID: <20060206.154905.15610.206762@webmail63.nyc.untd.com>

We were at the game also.  

I do not know about horrid on both sides of the ball but the Cats definitely had some calls either go against them or blatant no-calls.  Can somebody explain what a goaltend is?  From my perspective there were 2 on VV's early in the 1st half.

I did not get a chance to ask Murphy about Dunbar at the FBC reception before the game.  I did ask Coach Robinson "What's wrong with Cote?".  I got a coachspeak answer about "rust".  A couple of other "evil boosters" commented privately that the answer seemed evasive.  It is good to see him play better, but 1 rebound.  Ouch!

I loved our aggressive turnover creating defense, but other than MH and VV driving to the hoop, our under the basket presence both defensively and offensively was yucky.

Esch, Bienen, Pomeday, and mini-Esch(Jeff) spoke at the reception also.  The last two speaking about Esch's induction to NU's hall of fame.  Bienen had a few cute stories, but mostly he was asking for the big $$$$$ for athletics.  If you have a million or two lying around please send it to 1501 Central Street.  Esch did mention that everyone of his 32 teammates graduated!

-- Jonathan Michael Hawkins <spiritu@northwestern.edu> wrote:
<snip>
The referees were just horrid on both sides of the ball, but it certainly made the game more interesting. 
<snip> 
I think Carmody may be warming up to Cote - some of the postgame comments to Eanet indicated that we should probably see much more play time out of him in the rest of the season.  He went from 6 minutes vs. Indiana to 19 in Saturday's game.



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From artmiller1 at hotmail.com  Mon Feb  6 18:33:27 2006
From: artmiller1 at hotmail.com (Arthur Miller)
Date: Mon Feb  6 18:36:49 2006
Subject: [NU Sports] good news re: NU athletics
In-Reply-To: <261.65acac4.31190583@aol.com>
Message-ID: <BAY106-DAV129E5F32A45CD1B755A7098A010@phx.gbl>

OK, let's start talking positive:  How about those Wildcat wrestlers?!?!
They knocked off the third-ranked (and defending B10 champion) Illini on
Sunday, sparked by dramatic wins by John Velez (125), Mike Tamillow (184),
and Dustin Fox (Hwt).  Tim Cysewski definitely has this program running with
a head of steam.



-----Original Message-----
From: nwu-sports-bounces@tssi.com [mailto:nwu-sports-bounces@tssi.com] On
Behalf Of Martinitis@aol.com
Sent: Monday, February 06, 2006 2:03 PM
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In a message dated 2/4/2006 3:42:50 P.M. Pacific Standard Time,  
spiritu@northwestern.edu writes:

There  are just too many e-mails each day clogging up my  inbox.


And they are getting just too negative for my blood as  well.
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From jeffb at hilgraeve.com  Mon Feb  6 17:49:48 2006
From: jeffb at hilgraeve.com (Jeff Beamsley)
Date: Mon Feb  6 19:19:34 2006
Subject: [NU Sports] Please unsubscribe me.  Thanks.
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.64.0602061406300.28130@localhost>
Message-ID: <04c001c62b78$03eb25d0$97492745@hilgraeve.com>

IMHO, what has distinguished this list over the 10 or so (can it really have
been that long) years of it's existence is the quality of the discussion.
It is a real challenge for Mike or anyone to encourage free speech,
discourage infantile flaming, have an opinion, while at the same time not
seem like he is always taking sides.   

I agree that the past couple of years the discussions have become more
polarized, perhaps reflecting what's been going on in the country.  We are
less patient and considerate of each other and more willing to characterize
people we disagree with in unflattering disrespectful ways.  I certainly
have been guilty of that, though offline I've at least sought forgiveness
for some of the hurt that I may have thoughtlessly caused online.

It is sad to see people leave this list.  It is even sadder to see people
ridiculed because they voice a minority opinion.  But the worst outcome
would be a list where there was no disagreement at all.  So I've made it my
mission to regularly and arbitrarily disagree, if only to prevent this list
from slipping into Pleasantville.  If that bothers folks, I guess you'll
just have to say so. <g> 

Thanks Mike for your efforts to keep this list interesting (at least for me
<g>).

Jeff








-----Original Message-----
From: nwu-sports-bounces@tssi.com [mailto:nwu-sports-bounces@tssi.com] On
Behalf Of Jonathan Michael Hawkins
Sent: Monday, February 06, 2006 3:27 PM
To: nwu-sports@tssi.com
Subject: Re: [NU Sports] Please unsubscribe me. Thanks.

On Mon, 6 Feb 2006, Martinitis@aol.com wrote:
> And they are getting just too negative for my blood as well.

<sigh>

Well, that's true.  Between focusing entirely on "The Curse" and the "I Love
Jay Mariotti and Rick Telander [oh, and Fire Randy Walker, too!]" 
Brigade, I'm not sure how much of a "fan" list this is any more.  It used to
be like 100% fan.  Maybe now it's 70% fan, 30% "I went to NU and have found
that incessant negativity wins friends and influences people".

I'm pretty sure I could write "the weather's so nice out today" on the list
and someone would come back with "No thanks to Randy Walker.  And if Mark
Murphy doesn't fire him soon I'm going to continue to give my West Lot pass
away to Michigan fans". ;-)

Okay, enough joking about.  For real, here's some positive ideas and
commentary:

It's worth noting, and this is partially my fault, no one wrote in to talk
about our 'Cats incredibly heart-filled performance on Saturday against
Michigan State at home.  I'll try to rectify that - I was at the game and
had a great time.

We lost, but I'm not sure I've ever seen a time when everyone played with
the kind of guts and emotion that were displayed out there on the court on
Saturday night.

We couldn't seem to get our open shots to fall as much as we wanted them to,
but we did create those open looks and also gave MSU fits on defense. 
Most of the guys out there looked like they had the fires of hell behind
their eyes.  At one point Cote was bending over under the basket to tie his
shoe or something, MSU had gotten the rebound and was about to go down the
court, and Vedran shoved some MSU guy who'd pissed him off.  The Spartan guy
goes flying *over* Cote and lands in a heap.  No call. 
Vedran was on fire with anger and passion.  He fouled out with 2 minutes
left, leaving to a prolonged standing ovation.

That no-call was typical of the evening, actually.  The referees were just
horrid on both sides of the ball, but it certainly made the game more
interesting.  Levels of ire increased on both sides due to the poor
officiating, to the point where MSU tried to get into a fight with us at the
end of the first half.  Michael Jenkins got a regular old foul (under the
limit), but then there were offsetting technicals for fighting after the
foul, and then one of the MSU assistant coaches got into it, which resulted
in them having two Ts to our one.  So Vedran took two free throws and made
them both.  Michigan State got the ball after that for Jenkins' 
original foul.  We were quite amused.

Moore drained some nice looking threes, and I think Carmody may be warming
up to Cote - some of the postgame comments to Eanet indicated that we should
probably see much more play time out of him in the rest of the season.  He
went from 6 minutes vs. Indiana to 19 in Saturday's game.

Usually losses just crush me and leave me feeling tired and depressed, but
this one was so entertaining and scrappy I just couldn't feel bad about it.

Hopefully we can translate that passion and intensity into some wins against
lesser Big Ten teams than MSU.

Go 'Cats,

Jonathan

--
Jonathan Michael Hawkins
<http://www.jomiha.com>

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From rstetson at capps-assoc.com  Mon Feb  6 20:24:37 2006
From: rstetson at capps-assoc.com (Roy Lamberton)
Date: Mon Feb  6 20:31:31 2006
Subject: [NU Sports] Please unsubscribe me.  Thanks.
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.64.0602061406300.28130@localhost>
Message-ID: <002401c62b8d$a45e89c0$6500a8c0@DAVIDXP>

Gee, Guys, the "curse of the Wildcats" was just an attempt to put an NU spin on
a national sports story....

I guess it is time for me to pack up and leave too.

rsl

++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
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Computer Applications & Support Associates
and Publisher of Purple Reign, 
The Scout.com Northwestern University Site
(http://www.purplewildcats.com)
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: nwu-sports-bounces@tssi.com 
> [mailto:nwu-sports-bounces@tssi.com] On Behalf Of Jonathan 
> Michael Hawkins
> Sent: Monday, February 06, 2006 3:27 PM
> To: nwu-sports@tssi.com
> Subject: Re: [NU Sports] Please unsubscribe me. Thanks.
> 
> 
> On Mon, 6 Feb 2006, Martinitis@aol.com wrote:
> > And they are getting just too negative for my blood as well.
> 
> <sigh>
> 
> Well, that's true.  Between focusing entirely on "The Curse" 
> and the "I 
> Love Jay Mariotti and Rick Telander [oh, and Fire Randy 
> Walker, too!]" 
> Brigade, I'm not sure how much of a "fan" list this is any 
> more.  It used 
> to be like 100% fan.  Maybe now it's 70% fan, 30% "I went to 
> NU and have 
> found that incessant negativity wins friends and influences people".
> 
> I'm pretty sure I could write "the weather's so nice out 
> today" on the 
> list and someone would come back with "No thanks to Randy 
> Walker.  And if 
> Mark Murphy doesn't fire him soon I'm going to continue to 
> give my West 
> Lot pass away to Michigan fans". ;-)
> 
> Okay, enough joking about.  For real, here's some positive ideas and 
> commentary:
> 
> It's worth noting, and this is partially my fault, no one 
> wrote in to talk 
> about our 'Cats incredibly heart-filled performance on 
> Saturday against 
> Michigan State at home.  I'll try to rectify that - I was at 
> the game and 
> had a great time.
> 
> We lost, but I'm not sure I've ever seen a time when everyone 
> played with 
> the kind of guts and emotion that were displayed out there on 
> the court on 
> Saturday night.
> 
> We couldn't seem to get our open shots to fall as much as we 
> wanted them 
> to, but we did create those open looks and also gave MSU fits 
> on defense. 
> Most of the guys out there looked like they had the fires of 
> hell behind 
> their eyes.  At one point Cote was bending over under the 
> basket to tie 
> his shoe or something, MSU had gotten the rebound and was 
> about to go down 
> the court, and Vedran shoved some MSU guy who'd pissed him off.  The 
> Spartan guy goes flying *over* Cote and lands in a heap.  No call. 
> Vedran was on fire with anger and passion.  He fouled out 
> with 2 minutes 
> left, leaving to a prolonged standing ovation.
> 
> That no-call was typical of the evening, actually.  The 
> referees were just 
> horrid on both sides of the ball, but it certainly made the game more 
> interesting.  Levels of ire increased on both sides due to the poor 
> officiating, to the point where MSU tried to get into a fight 
> with us at 
> the end of the first half.  Michael Jenkins got a regular old 
> foul (under 
> the limit), but then there were offsetting technicals for 
> fighting after 
> the foul, and then one of the MSU assistant coaches got into 
> it, which 
> resulted in them having two Ts to our one.  So Vedran took 
> two free throws 
> and made them both.  Michigan State got the ball after that 
> for Jenkins' 
> original foul.  We were quite amused.
> 
> Moore drained some nice looking threes, and I think Carmody 
> may be warming 
> up to Cote - some of the postgame comments to Eanet indicated that we 
> should probably see much more play time out of him in the rest of the 
> season.  He went from 6 minutes vs. Indiana to 19 in Saturday's game.
> 
> Usually losses just crush me and leave me feeling tired and 
> depressed, but 
> this one was so entertaining and scrappy I just couldn't feel 
> bad about 
> it.
> 
> Hopefully we can translate that passion and intensity into some wins 
> against lesser Big Ten teams than MSU.
> 
> Go 'Cats,
> 
> Jonathan
> 
> -- 
> Jonathan Michael Hawkins
> <http://www.jomiha.com>
> 
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From MHRJGScott at aol.com  Mon Feb  6 21:23:22 2006
From: MHRJGScott at aol.com (MHRJGScott@aol.com)
Date: Mon Feb  6 21:45:00 2006
Subject: [NU Sports] Please unsubscribe me.  Thanks.
Message-ID: <24e.5ee5a35.31196caa@aol.com>

I think this is a common condition mostly observed in north American  males 
in February known as "post football letdown syndrome."  It is  best to lie down 
and make no sudden moves until the numbing effects of baseball  in April set 
in.
 

Have we got a college?  Have we got a football team?....Well we can't afford 
both. 

Tomorrow we start tearing down the college.
Groucho in Horse  Feathers
From spiritu at northwestern.edu  Mon Feb  6 22:10:41 2006
From: spiritu at northwestern.edu (Jonathan Michael Hawkins)
Date: Mon Feb  6 22:12:02 2006
Subject: [NU Sports] Please unsubscribe me.  Thanks.
In-Reply-To: <002401c62b8d$a45e89c0$6500a8c0@DAVIDXP>
References: <002401c62b8d$a45e89c0$6500a8c0@DAVIDXP>
Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.64.0602062208140.29137@localhost>

Hey now, that's not what I meant.  I hoped that my "Okay, enough joking 
about" would've cleared that up.  I apologize for any misconfusion this 
may have caused.

Anyways, is anyone going to see any of our first 22 baseball games, all on 
the road?

Jonathan

On Mon, 6 Feb 2006, Roy Lamberton wrote:

> Gee, Guys, the "curse of the Wildcats" was just an attempt to put an NU spin on
> a national sports story....
>
> I guess it is time for me to pack up and leave too.
>
> rsl
>
> ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
> Roy S. Lamberton - Senior Associate
> Computer Applications & Support Associates
> and Publisher of Purple Reign,
> The Scout.com Northwestern University Site
> (http://www.purplewildcats.com)
> AIM Handle: CoachRoy74
> ======== Go Cats -  Beat 'em All ===========
> Every time I think I've got this Computer
> Biz handled
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> ============================================
>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: nwu-sports-bounces@tssi.com
>> [mailto:nwu-sports-bounces@tssi.com] On Behalf Of Jonathan
>> Michael Hawkins
>> Sent: Monday, February 06, 2006 3:27 PM
>> To: nwu-sports@tssi.com
>> Subject: Re: [NU Sports] Please unsubscribe me. Thanks.
>>
>>
>> On Mon, 6 Feb 2006, Martinitis@aol.com wrote:
>>> And they are getting just too negative for my blood as well.
>>
>> <sigh>
>>
>> Well, that's true.  Between focusing entirely on "The Curse"
>> and the "I
>> Love Jay Mariotti and Rick Telander [oh, and Fire Randy
>> Walker, too!]"
>> Brigade, I'm not sure how much of a "fan" list this is any
>> more.  It used
>> to be like 100% fan.  Maybe now it's 70% fan, 30% "I went to
>> NU and have
>> found that incessant negativity wins friends and influences people".
>>
>> I'm pretty sure I could write "the weather's so nice out
>> today" on the
>> list and someone would come back with "No thanks to Randy
>> Walker.  And if
>> Mark Murphy doesn't fire him soon I'm going to continue to
>> give my West
>> Lot pass away to Michigan fans". ;-)
>>
>> Okay, enough joking about.  For real, here's some positive ideas and
>> commentary:
>>
>> It's worth noting, and this is partially my fault, no one
>> wrote in to talk
>> about our 'Cats incredibly heart-filled performance on
>> Saturday against
>> Michigan State at home.  I'll try to rectify that - I was at
>> the game and
>> had a great time.
>>
>> We lost, but I'm not sure I've ever seen a time when everyone
>> played with
>> the kind of guts and emotion that were displayed out there on
>> the court on
>> Saturday night.
>>
>> We couldn't seem to get our open shots to fall as much as we
>> wanted them
>> to, but we did create those open looks and also gave MSU fits
>> on defense.
>> Most of the guys out there looked like they had the fires of
>> hell behind
>> their eyes.  At one point Cote was bending over under the
>> basket to tie
>> his shoe or something, MSU had gotten the rebound and was
>> about to go down
>> the court, and Vedran shoved some MSU guy who'd pissed him off.  The
>> Spartan guy goes flying *over* Cote and lands in a heap.  No call.
>> Vedran was on fire with anger and passion.  He fouled out
>> with 2 minutes
>> left, leaving to a prolonged standing ovation.
>>
>> That no-call was typical of the evening, actually.  The
>> referees were just
>> horrid on both sides of the ball, but it certainly made the game more
>> interesting.  Levels of ire increased on both sides due to the poor
>> officiating, to the point where MSU tried to get into a fight
>> with us at
>> the end of the first half.  Michael Jenkins got a regular old
>> foul (under
>> the limit), but then there were offsetting technicals for
>> fighting after
>> the foul, and then one of the MSU assistant coaches got into
>> it, which
>> resulted in them having two Ts to our one.  So Vedran took
>> two free throws
>> and made them both.  Michigan State got the ball after that
>> for Jenkins'
>> original foul.  We were quite amused.
>>
>> Moore drained some nice looking threes, and I think Carmody
>> may be warming
>> up to Cote - some of the postgame comments to Eanet indicated that we
>> should probably see much more play time out of him in the rest of the
>> season.  He went from 6 minutes vs. Indiana to 19 in Saturday's game.
>>
>> Usually losses just crush me and leave me feeling tired and
>> depressed, but
>> this one was so entertaining and scrappy I just couldn't feel
>> bad about
>> it.
>>
>> Hopefully we can translate that passion and intensity into some wins
>> against lesser Big Ten teams than MSU.
>>
>> Go 'Cats,
>>
>> Jonathan
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From rstetson at capps-assoc.com  Mon Feb  6 20:20:54 2006
From: rstetson at capps-assoc.com (Roy Lamberton)
Date: Mon Feb  6 22:45:14 2006
Subject: [NU Sports] Patton leaves for Norman, OK
Message-ID: <002301c62b8d$1fb3d4a0$6500a8c0@DAVIDXP>

Jim Patton, NU's O-Line coach was hired by Oklahoma 

http://www.soonersports.com/ViewArticle.dbml?SPSID=2475&SPID=190&SPORT_TAB_SEL=0
1&DB_LANG=C&DB_OEM_ID=300&ATCLID=235048

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From rstetson at capps-assoc.com  Tue Feb  7 06:39:17 2006
From: rstetson at capps-assoc.com (Roy Lamberton)
Date: Tue Feb  7 06:46:20 2006
Subject: [NU Sports] Please unsubscribe me.  Thanks. (fwd)
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FWIW - you could also download mailwasher from http://www.firetrust.com and
filter out your spam if an overload of e-mail is getting you.

While the NU List posts sometimes raises my ire, it's the "russian beauties" and
stock pitches that irritate me....

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From rstetson at capps-assoc.com  Tue Feb  7 06:51:42 2006
From: rstetson at capps-assoc.com (Roy Lamberton)
Date: Tue Feb  7 06:51:49 2006
Subject: [NU Sports] Please unsubscribe me.  Thanks.
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.64.0602062208140.29137@localhost>
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I wish they played closer to the east coast once in a while, might help recruit
some of the better players over here. 

ANYWAY, our Lacrosse Cats look as formidable as last year, we snuck up on a few
of the Northeast teams, this year It ain't gonna happen, but if their recent
exhibition game is any gauge of their talent, we're again going to score early
and often.

Softball is going to be better again this year, based on some of the preseason
rumblings. The problem on the skin diamond will be the evil empire to the
northeast, Michigan. They appear to be as good this year as they were last.

I also am curious how the new assistant coaches will slide into place in
Football. When Jeff Genyk left, taking Pete and Feggins, RW shuffled the
assistants, hired a couple of folks to fill in the holes, bringing back a former
grad student who did a decent job with the running backs last year.

We are going to miss James Patton - he recruited Luis Castillo, along with many
of the new up front folks. His work with Zach Streif, Trai Essex, Ulrich, et.
Al. has definitely borne fruit on Sunday. 

He will be missed.

I was told after Dunbar left that there might be others leaving. I hope Patton
is the only one.

rsl 

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>
> 
> Anyways, is anyone going to see any of our first 22 baseball 
> games, all on 
> the road?
> 
> Jonathan
>


From jeffb at hilgraeve.com  Tue Feb  7 08:52:02 2006
From: jeffb at hilgraeve.com (Jeff Beamsley)
Date: Tue Feb  7 09:29:31 2006
Subject: [NU Sports] coaches leaving
In-Reply-To: <002b01c62be5$3ef61e60$6500a8c0@DAVIDXP>
Message-ID: <060201c62bf6$0e37e090$97492745@hilgraeve.com>

 Roy,

Why do you think so many coaches are leaving?

Out of pure speculation here seem to be the possible reasons.

1. Pure coincidence.  Coaches move on every year as better opportunities
present themselves.  This just happened to be year when more than normal
promoted themselves.  So this is good news that NU is able to attract good
coaches that prove themselves worthy of more responsibility and get better
jobs.
2. They know something we don't.  Good coaches get recruited every year.
Sometimes they take the offers sometimes they don't.  The fact that a lot of
higher profile NU coaches are taking offers this year may indicate that they
think their negotiating leverage has peaked and the post-Baz years aren't
going to be as good.
3. They are uncertain of RW's future.  Hate to put this one in here because
of the general sensitivity to this discussion on this list - but what the
heck.  If you think the team is going to be bad enough that the head coach
is going to get fired and you aren't in line for succession, you might not
want to deal with the uncertainty of what would happen in a coaching change.
4. Dunbar was the glue that held everything together.  Dunbar leaving had a
greater impact on the coaching staff than it might have seemed.

Whatever the reason, all of these coaches leaving is also a much better
explanation than anything else that I've read about why this year's
recruiting class was weak.  

Jeff


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I wish they played closer to the east coast once in a while, might help
recruit some of the better players over here. 

ANYWAY, our Lacrosse Cats look as formidable as last year, we snuck up on a
few of the Northeast teams, this year It ain't gonna happen, but if their
recent exhibition game is any gauge of their talent, we're again going to
score early and often.

Softball is going to be better again this year, based on some of the
preseason rumblings. The problem on the skin diamond will be the evil empire
to the northeast, Michigan. They appear to be as good this year as they were
last.

I also am curious how the new assistant coaches will slide into place in
Football. When Jeff Genyk left, taking Pete and Feggins, RW shuffled the
assistants, hired a couple of folks to fill in the holes, bringing back a
former grad student who did a decent job with the running backs last year.

We are going to miss James Patton - he recruited Luis Castillo, along with
many of the new up front folks. His work with Zach Streif, Trai Essex,
Ulrich, et.
Al. has definitely borne fruit on Sunday. 

He will be missed.

I was told after Dunbar left that there might be others leaving. I hope
Patton is the only one.

rsl 

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>
> 
> Anyways, is anyone going to see any of our first 22 baseball 
> games, all on 
> the road?
> 
> Jonathan
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From mlinhardt at netzero.net  Tue Feb  7 10:26:02 2006
From: mlinhardt at netzero.net (mlinhardt@netzero.net)
Date: Tue Feb  7 10:35:03 2006
Subject: [NU Sports] College football recruiting 101
Message-ID: <20060207.082639.23941.212586@webmail25.nyc.untd.com>

College football recruiting 101
http://msn.foxsports.com/cfb/story/5312496

Fascinating article on how and what to recruit.  It does not take into account our academic requirements, but still fascinating nonetheless.

Quick points
- LBs - recruit athletic over size
- CBs - recruit speed over coverage ability
- Safeties - recruit tackling ability over coverage ability
- WRs - recruit blocking ability over speed & size

With 2+ coaches gone will we get our "super studly" special teams coordinator?


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From rstetson at capps-assoc.com  Tue Feb  7 10:54:06 2006
From: rstetson at capps-assoc.com (Roy Lamberton)
Date: Tue Feb  7 10:59:57 2006
Subject: [NU Sports] Special Edition of the Sports News 2-6
Message-ID: <003101c62c07$21055a70$6500a8c0@DAVIDXP>

Changing the 'Cat: NU revises Willie standards
http://www.dailynorthwestern.com/vnews/display.v/ART/2006/02/07/43e83e7a104a7

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From jonathanwhodges at gmail.com  Tue Feb  7 11:04:55 2006
From: jonathanwhodges at gmail.com (Jonathan Hodges)
Date: Tue Feb  7 11:06:14 2006
Subject: [NU Sports] coaches leaving
In-Reply-To: <060201c62bf6$0e37e090$97492745@hilgraeve.com>
References: <002b01c62be5$3ef61e60$6500a8c0@DAVIDXP>
	<060201c62bf6$0e37e090$97492745@hilgraeve.com>
Message-ID: <fcb3ee270602070904ye7b66d5jcbc0d994dbd90200@mail.gmail.com>

I think you (at least partially) nailed an answer:

> 3. They are uncertain of RW's future.

It is probably true that they are moving on to better opportunities
(moving up to a higher position, more pay, etc.) just as most do at
some point in their careers.  But the fact is that Walker's contract
runs out in 2007 and the University has not extended that, despite
recent successes.  After the 2000 Big Ten Championship, the University
jumped all over him and signed him to a contract extension to that
2007 year, so one would think that they would do the same to keep him
around if they are happy with the recent stability to the program
(i.e. 6+ wins for 3 straight years and 2 bowl appearances).  What does
this mean?  Maybe the University is waiting to see what happens this
year (or, if you are one of the nay-sayers, maybe they have already
decided not to renew his contract and are waiting it out right now). 
In any case maybe the assistants (and possibly some recruits) saw only
1+ years left on the contract of the head coach with no sign of a
renewal so they decided to move on voluntarily before they are forced
to (especially if they have another offer on the table).

Of course my opinion is that Walker should stay - he has brought
positive stability to a program that never had any before except for
one two year span.  He has also shown he can develop players no matter
what kind of recruit they are - he has sent numerous players to the
NFL and has had leaders develop on the field every year (see Kustok,
Anderson, Wright, Herron, Basanez, Durr, McGarigle, etc.).  In terms
of recruiting - NU should be competitive between its peers (i.e. Duke,
Stanford, Vanderbilt) and should recruit to its needs - not just to be
a "top recruiting class."  I think that the record of the past few
years shows that even these "inferior" recruits can compete in the Big
Ten (14-10 record, with wins over some of the big programs).

Jonathan



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From rstetson at capps-assoc.com  Tue Feb  7 11:21:57 2006
From: rstetson at capps-assoc.com (Roy Lamberton)
Date: Tue Feb  7 11:25:34 2006
Subject: [NU Sports] College football recruiting 101
In-Reply-To: <20060207.082639.23941.212586@webmail25.nyc.untd.com>
Message-ID: <003a01c62c0a$ffdd34e0$6500a8c0@DAVIDXP>

In the Sports News digest there's a 2nd story about substance over style...

Also almost required reading - they talk about guys with shots running into the
stadium, making muscles, etc.

Remember that Mark Koehn was recruited by Fitz because of his video, a lot of
game footage.

And a personal note: My son brought a tape of 3 of his games to Greensboro when
they were talking to him and wanted to see how he played. 

All it contained were the game footage, play after play. 3 of the assistants
wandered by at different times, and sat down to watch, one sat thru the entire
hour of tape because he like watching the wing T.

That's where David wound up playing and graduating.

rsl

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> -----Original Message-----
> From: nwu-sports-bounces@tssi.com 
> [mailto:nwu-sports-bounces@tssi.com] On Behalf Of 
> mlinhardt@netzero.net
> Sent: Tuesday, February 07, 2006 11:26 AM
> To: nwu-sports@tssi.com
> Cc: Maureen.Linhardt@plexus.com
> Subject: [NU Sports] College football recruiting 101
> 
> 
> College football recruiting 101 
> http://msn.foxsports.com/cfb/story/5312496
> 
> Fascinating article on how and what to recruit.  It does not 
> take into account our academic requirements, but still 
> fascinating nonetheless.
> 
> Quick points
> - LBs - recruit athletic over size
> - CBs - recruit speed over coverage ability
> - Safeties - recruit tackling ability over coverage ability
> - WRs - recruit blocking ability over speed & size
> 
> With 2+ coaches gone will we get our "super studly" special 
> teams coordinator?
> 
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From rstetson at capps-assoc.com  Tue Feb  7 11:18:28 2006
From: rstetson at capps-assoc.com (Roy Lamberton)
Date: Tue Feb  7 11:42:19 2006
Subject: [NU Sports] coaches leaving
In-Reply-To: <060201c62bf6$0e37e090$97492745@hilgraeve.com>
Message-ID: <003901c62c0a$82fb9a20$6500a8c0@DAVIDXP>

Lets see...

Pure coincidence is probably the closest to the truth.

1. I think Dunbar saw an opportunity to work with a big state school that also
had a big passing game. He's recruited the west coast for several years so he
knows the lay of the land.

2. From reading Jim Patton's comments down in Norman, OK, it appears that Kevin
Wilson made him an offer he couldn't refuse - and I think Wilson is lining up
both his running game staff at OU and a future staff should he get the top job
somewhere. 

I know from experience that OU pays better than NU, the weather's nicer most of
the year, you don't have to send your kids to private school in Norman, and he
can use all the red stuff left over from Miami. 

As an O-Line coach, you can get almost any big kid in Oklahoma to come to Norman
to play. OU doesn't recruit as much as they "reload." 

I also think that he sees an opportunity to move up to a coordinator's slot
eventually, and OU is a better place to get promoted from than NU - there are
more folks watching what you do.

3. Most assistants can't worry about their head coach's future, unless they are
totally tied to that head coach and then they're in trouble. Walker is in the
last two years of his deal, and while we're a collapse away from a new head guy,
I don't see it happening. Walker says the right things inside to keep himself
employed despite what some alumni think around here.

4. Dunbar was a good QB coach, for whom Baz and the other QBs had a great amount
of respect. He was an even better coordinator, working with a limited amount of
talent and along with his assistants, [and the rest of the coaching staff],
getting a lot out the kids we have and can get.

If anything, Dunbar will find it easier to coach at Cal, but will have more
pressure to perform. Like Walker he doesn't get overly upset in public, but you
know that much performance is expected by him.

Was he the glue that held NU's staff together? 

Randy Walker puts on this "good ole' country boy" act, but don't confuse his
public media persona with whatever he does out of the spotlight. NU is very much
Randy Walker's team, despite what you read, and his comments about being the
only assistant left in 10 years is not a negative comment about running off
staff, but a belief that for his assistants and the NU program to continue
growing under his leadership, there has to be turnover among those assistants.

Barry Switzer had a couple of long time assistants - Larry Lacewell on defense,
and a recruiting coordinator, who's name escapes me now.

When they asked Larry to finally leave - many more things than the event that
led to his departure - the team shuddered, then went on and won again.

The Recruiting guy left about the same time. It took Stoops to bring that team
back to a top 10 ranking.

I have every faith that RW will find his new coordinator and maybe will shuffle
assignments to get better guys in the right places. I think the new OC is
already in place, and he probably knows the right WR coach to bring in if there
should be a change there - the new O-Line guy is the one I'm more concerned
about.   

We'll see.

rsl

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> -----Original Message-----
> From: nwu-sports-bounces@tssi.com 
> [mailto:nwu-sports-bounces@tssi.com] On Behalf Of Jeff Beamsley
> Sent: Tuesday, February 07, 2006 9:52 AM
> To: nwu-sports@tssi.com
> Subject: RE: [NU Sports] coaches leaving
> 
> 
>  Roy,
> 
> Why do you think so many coaches are leaving?
> 
> Out of pure speculation here seem to be the possible reasons.
> 
> 1. Pure coincidence.  Coaches move on every year as better 
> opportunities present themselves.  This just happened to be 
> year when more than normal promoted themselves.  So this is 
> good news that NU is able to attract good coaches that prove 
> themselves worthy of more responsibility and get better jobs. 
> 2. They know something we don't.  Good coaches get recruited 
> every year. Sometimes they take the offers sometimes they 
> don't.  The fact that a lot of higher profile NU coaches are 
> taking offers this year may indicate that they think their 
> negotiating leverage has peaked and the post-Baz years aren't 
> going to be as good. 3. They are uncertain of RW's future.  
> Hate to put this one in here because of the general 
> sensitivity to this discussion on this list - but what the 
> heck.  If you think the team is going to be bad enough that 
> the head coach is going to get fired and you aren't in line 
> for succession, you might not want to deal with the 
> uncertainty of what would happen in a coaching change. 4. 
> Dunbar was the glue that held everything together.  Dunbar 
> leaving had a greater impact on the coaching staff than it 
> might have seemed.
> 
> Whatever the reason, all of these coaches leaving is also a 
> much better explanation than anything else that I've read 
> about why this year's recruiting class was weak.  
> 
> Jeff
> 


From jleonard518 at yahoo.com  Tue Feb  7 11:59:56 2006
From: jleonard518 at yahoo.com (Jim Leonard)
Date: Tue Feb  7 12:07:50 2006
Subject: [NU Sports] coaches leaving
In-Reply-To: <fcb3ee270602070904ye7b66d5jcbc0d994dbd90200@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <20060207175956.19780.qmail@web36809.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

The writing is on the wall. Walker finishes out 2007, and Barnett returns in
2008. :-)

--- Jonathan Hodges <jonathanwhodges@gmail.com> wrote:

> I think you (at least partially) nailed an answer:
> 
> > 3. They are uncertain of RW's future.
> 
> It is probably true that they are moving on to better opportunities
> (moving up to a higher position, more pay, etc.) just as most do at
> some point in their careers.  But the fact is that Walker's contract
> runs out in 2007 and the University has not extended that, despite
> recent successes. 

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From nolan at romaine.tssi.com  Tue Feb  7 12:33:09 2006
From: nolan at romaine.tssi.com (Mike Nolan)
Date: Tue Feb  7 12:33:12 2006
Subject: [NU Sports] coaches leaving 
Message-ID: <200602071833.k17IX9DY004124@romaine.tssi.com>

> Randy Walker's team, despite what you read, and his comments about being the
> only assistant left in 10 years is not a negative comment about running off
> staff, but a belief that for his assistants and the NU program to continue
> growing under his leadership, there has to be turnover among those assistants.

For years (possibly decades) it was an article of faith among Husker fans
that stability within the coaching staff was a large component of the
Nebraska success story, despite quite a bit of evidence to the contrary.

Point 1:
When the head coach (Osborne) retired and Solich was elevated to take over, 
all of the assistant coaches stayed on, and within a few years they 'led' 
the Huskers to a 7-7 record.  Wholesale changes among the assistant coaches 
followed, and the team rebounded to 9-2, but the new AD fired Solich anyway.  

Point 2:
When the head coach (Devaney) retired and Osborne was elevated to take over, 
most of the assistants left.  Osborne never won fewer than 9 games a year
in his 25 seasons at Nebraska.

I find it interesting that the same assistant coaches that so many were
willing to dump are now a cause of concern because they're leaving.
--
Mike Nolan

From rstetson at capps-assoc.com  Tue Feb  7 13:19:58 2006
From: rstetson at capps-assoc.com (Roy Lamberton)
Date: Tue Feb  7 13:20:21 2006
Subject: [NU Sports] coaches leaving
In-Reply-To: <1db.4c2a0764.311a4b96@aol.com>
Message-ID: <004301c62c1b$7c4147f0$6500a8c0@DAVIDXP>

Not to knock north Chicago, but having lived in Norman, and having had a wife
teach just across the river, I can tell you that the Public School of Norman,
OK, with the University of OK there, are as good as anything around Evanston.
 
If the public schools in and around Evanston are so good, why are there so many
private schools?
 
rsl
 
 

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-----Original Message-----
From: CHerron604@aol.com [mailto:CHerron604@aol.com] 
Sent: Tuesday, February 07, 2006 2:15 PM
To: rstetson@capps-assoc.com; jeffb@hilgraeve.com; nwu-sports@tssi.com
Subject: Re: [NU Sports] coaches leaving



I will contest one of Roy's points:
 
"I know from experience that OU pays better than NU, the weather's nicer most of
the year, you don't have to send your kids to private school in Norman, and he
can use all the red stuff left over from Miami. "
 
Any Northwestern staffer who feels that he has to send his kids to private
school is kidding himself - any Public school on the North Shore, including ETHS
and New Trier, is better than its private counterparts - I'd match ETHS, New
Trier or Glenview against North Shore Country Day or Roycemore, or the
parochials like Loyola Academy, and the public schools would win going away.
And they would certainly outperform anything he might find in the public schools
in Norman, Oklahoma.
 
Chuck Herron   Tech '85

From CHerron604 at aol.com  Tue Feb  7 13:14:30 2006
From: CHerron604 at aol.com (CHerron604@aol.com)
Date: Tue Feb  7 14:08:44 2006
Subject: [NU Sports] coaches leaving
Message-ID: <1db.4c2a0764.311a4b96@aol.com>

I will contest one of Roy's points:
 
"I know from experience that OU pays better than NU, the weather's nicer  
most of
the year, you don't have to send your kids to private school in  Norman, and 
he
can use all the red stuff left over from Miami. "
 
Any Northwestern staffer who feels that he has to send his kids to private  
school is kidding himself - any Public school on the North Shore, including 
ETHS  and New Trier, is better than its private counterparts - I'd match ETHS, 
New  Trier or Glenview against North Shore Country Day or Roycemore, or the  
parochials like Loyola Academy, and the public schools would win going  away.  
And they would certainly outperform anything he might find in  the public 
schools in Norman, Oklahoma.
 
Chuck Herron   Tech '85
From rstetson at capps-assoc.com  Tue Feb  7 13:15:52 2006
From: rstetson at capps-assoc.com (Roy Lamberton)
Date: Tue Feb  7 14:24:58 2006
Subject: [NU Sports] coaches leaving 
In-Reply-To: <200602071833.k17IX9DY004124@romaine.tssi.com>
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Interesting Mike, I agreed with that thought about the Husker program - JoPa's
success at State Penn also was an outgrowth of low turnover among his top
assistants, notably Sandusky. Even now Jo Pa doesn't lose many coaches - altho
they're approached all the time.

However, I think the days of coaching stability are almost gone - look at all
the changes happening not only at our place, but up the road in Madison...

rsl

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> -----Original Message-----
> From: nwu-sports-bounces@tssi.com 
> [mailto:nwu-sports-bounces@tssi.com] On Behalf Of Mike Nolan
> Sent: Tuesday, February 07, 2006 1:33 PM
> To: nwu-sports@romaine.tssi.com
> Subject: RE: [NU Sports] coaches leaving 
> 
> 
> > Randy Walker's team, despite what you read, and his comments about 
> > being the only assistant left in 10 years is not a negative comment 
> > about running off staff, but a belief that for his 
> assistants and the 
> > NU program to continue growing under his leadership, there 
> has to be 
> > turnover among those assistants.
> 
> For years (possibly decades) it was an article of faith among 
> Husker fans that stability within the coaching staff was a 
> large component of the Nebraska success story, despite quite 
> a bit of evidence to the contrary.
> 
> Point 1:
> When the head coach (Osborne) retired and Solich was elevated 
> to take over, 
> all of the assistant coaches stayed on, and within a few 
> years they 'led' 
> the Huskers to a 7-7 record.  Wholesale changes among the 
> assistant coaches 
> followed, and the team rebounded to 9-2, but the new AD fired 
> Solich anyway.  
> 
> Point 2:
> When the head coach (Devaney) retired and Osborne was 
> elevated to take over, 
> most of the assistants left.  Osborne never won fewer than 9 
> games a year in his 25 seasons at Nebraska.
> 
> I find it interesting that the same assistant coaches that so 
> many were willing to dump are now a cause of concern because 
> they're leaving.
> --
> Mike Nolan
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From jeffb at hilgraeve.com  Tue Feb  7 13:55:13 2006
From: jeffb at hilgraeve.com (Jeff Beamsley)
Date: Tue Feb  7 14:29:23 2006
Subject: [NU Sports] coaches leaving 
In-Reply-To: <200602071833.k17IX9DY004124@romaine.tssi.com>
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I don't know whether it is a cause for concern.

I don't know whether it is a good thing or a bad thing.

All I know is that more high profile coaches from RW's staff left this year
than in previous years.

Sort of like global warming.  We can all see the evidence, but we can't all
agree on what it means.

Jeff


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Behalf Of Mike Nolan
Sent: Tuesday, February 07, 2006 1:33 PM
To: nwu-sports@romaine.tssi.com
Subject: RE: [NU Sports] coaches leaving 

> Randy Walker's team, despite what you read, and his comments about 
> being the only assistant left in 10 years is not a negative comment 
> about running off staff, but a belief that for his assistants and the 
> NU program to continue growing under his leadership, there has to be
turnover among those assistants.

For years (possibly decades) it was an article of faith among Husker fans
that stability within the coaching staff was a large component of the
Nebraska success story, despite quite a bit of evidence to the contrary.

Point 1:
When the head coach (Osborne) retired and Solich was elevated to take over,
all of the assistant coaches stayed on, and within a few years they 'led' 
the Huskers to a 7-7 record.  Wholesale changes among the assistant coaches
followed, and the team rebounded to 9-2, but the new AD fired Solich anyway.


Point 2:
When the head coach (Devaney) retired and Osborne was elevated to take over,
most of the assistants left.  Osborne never won fewer than 9 games a year in
his 25 seasons at Nebraska.

I find it interesting that the same assistant coaches that so many were
willing to dump are now a cause of concern because they're leaving.
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From nolan at romaine.tssi.com  Tue Feb  7 14:49:52 2006
From: nolan at romaine.tssi.com (Mike Nolan)
Date: Tue Feb  7 14:49:55 2006
Subject: [NU Sports] coaches leaving (fwd)
Message-ID: <200602072049.k17KnqDW007003@romaine.tssi.com>

> If the public schools in and around Evanston are so good, why are 
> there so many private schools?

Private elementary and secondary schools are usually more about who 
attends them (or who sends them) than the quality of education received.

People send their kids to private schools because:

A.  They can (usually) afford to.
B.  They think it will keep their kids from having to mingle with the 
    wrong sort, usually that refers to socioeconomic factors or religion.
C.  In the case of boarding schools, it gets the kids out of the house.
D.  They went to private schools.  (I've been told that over half of the 
    kids at Choate have parents who went there, for example.)
E.  It is considered a ticket to the Ivy League, though I suspect that's 
    nowhere as true now as it was 25 years ago.

It should come as no surprise that most of the members of Congress and
senior government officials who have school-age kids send them to 
private schools, either in the DC area or in their home states.  For 
some (such as Chelsea Clinton) there are some legitimate security issues 
involved, but that's the exception.
--
Mike Nolan

From nolan at romaine.tssi.com  Tue Feb  7 15:13:10 2006
From: nolan at romaine.tssi.com (Mike Nolan)
Date: Tue Feb  7 15:13:14 2006
Subject: [NU Sports] coaches leaving (fwd)
Message-ID: <200602072113.k17LDAbE007546@romaine.tssi.com>

> However, I think the days of coaching stability are almost gone - look at all
> the changes happening not only at our place, but up the road in Madison...

True.  Coaches with the length of tenure of a JoePa, Tom Osborne or Bobby
Bowden are likely to be rare commodities in the next 25 years.  Solich 
couldn't cut it as Osborne's successor (though that's a very complex issue),
I don't know what will happen at Penn State and FSU when those legends
finally hang it up or leave the building feet first, but I'd put money
that their successors will stumble a bit, too.  

How many years did it take for a coach to emerge from the shadows of 
Darryl Royal at Texas?  Has Alabama found a satisfactory replacement for 
the Bear yet?  No coach at Notre Dame since Rocke has made it beyond 11 
years or won more than 100 games (Rocke won 105 in 13 seasons, Holtz 100 
in 11, Parseghian 95 in 11, Leahy 87 in 11.)  I guess the luck of the 
Irish doesn't apply to the head coach.

Ferentz has so far seemed a worthy successor to Hayden Fry, it'll be 
interesting to watch what happens in Madison over the next few years.  
One advantage Osborne had in Lincoln was he had Devaney (fondly known as
the Bobfather) protecting his flank, will Alvarez do that for his chosen 
successor?  What will happen when Lloyd Carr steps down at Michigan?
(15 weeks ago I might have phrased that 'is forced out at Michigan', but
I think he's safe for another year or two.)
--
Mike Nolan

From rstetson at capps-assoc.com  Tue Feb  7 11:32:07 2006
From: rstetson at capps-assoc.com (Roy Lamberton)
Date: Tue Feb  7 15:43:05 2006
Subject: [NU Sports] NU Sports News Digest 2/7
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BASKETBALL

     Men
     Bill Carmody Teleconference 2/6 [$]
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     Next Up is Iowa
     Iowa rules Big Ten
      http://www.nwherald.com/SportsSection/college/57081981568436.php 
     + Iowa Men Put Win Streak on the Line at Northwestern Wednesday
 
http://hawkeyesports.collegesports.com/sports/m-baskbl/spec-rel/020606aac.html 
     $ Coach Alford Presser Northwestern Pregame
      http://iowa.scout.com/2/497416.html 
     + Hawkeye Hoops & Football Recruits
      http://iowa.scout.com/2/497225.html 
     + Alford likes the view
 
http://www.dailyiowan.com/news/2006/02/07/Sports/Alford.Likes.The.View-1601570.s
html 
     + Would Iowa still be in 1st with Pierre?
 
http://www.dailyiowan.com/news/2006/02/07/Sports/Would.Iowa.Still.Be.In.1st.With
.Pierre-1601594.shtml 
     + Hawks enjoy view from top
 
http://www.hawkcentral.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20060207/HAWKS0102/6020703
19/1080 
     + Iowa's Horner and OSU's Foster Share Weekly Laurels
      http://bigten.collegesports.com/sports/m-baskbl/spec-rel/020606aaa.html 
     the Ioway folks are all a twitter
     + Iowa and U-N-I lead the Big 10, M-V-C
 
http://www.radioiowa.com/gestalt/go.cfm?objectid=C5C12DF4-6113-477A-906E739D9E2C
9028&dbtranslator=local.cfm 

     Other Big 10
     Skip Myslenski: Big Ten turns up the heat
 
http://chicagosports.chicagotribune.com/sports/college/northwestern/cs-060205mys
lenski,1,7556579.column?coll=cs-college-nwestern-print 

     Men's Basketball Weekly Release - Feb. 6
      http://bigten.collegesports.com/sports/m-baskbl/spec-rel/020606aac.html 

     Illini tapping some new sources on offense
      http://www.suntimes.com/output/campus/cst-spt-big07.html 
     + Illinois Drops to No. 10 in Latest AP Poll
      http://chicago.comcastsportsnet.com/view_content.asp?ID=24492 

     Beating Illini 'important' for Penn St.
      http://www.nwherald.com/SportsSection/college/361401908729015.php 

     Women
     Strange Schedule Stands Out in This Week's Play
      http://bigten.collegesports.com/sports/w-baskbl/spec-rel/020606aae.html 

FOOTBALL

     "They'll hire a coach that I'm sure he'll be better than me,"  -- yeah
right JP
     O-line coach leaves NU, takes job at Oklahoma
 
http://www.dailynorthwestern.com/vnews/display.v/ART/2006/02/07/43e83ba192cb3 
     + Football Fills Coaching Vacancy
      http://www.soonersports.com/ViewArticle.dbml?DB_OEM_ID=300&&ATCLID=234938 
     + Sooners hire Northwestern assistant
      http://oklahoma.scout.com/2/497403.html 
     + Sooners pick Patton as offensive line coach
 
http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/rssclick/2006/football/ncaa/02/06/bc.fbc.oklaho
ma.patton.ap/index.html?section=si_ncaaf 

RECRUITING

     NU has offered this athlete
     Aaron Nagel Receives first schollie
 
http://scout.scout.com/a.z?s=179&p=9&c=2&cid=497530&nid=2241621&fhn=1&refid=4742


     $ Will Wisniewski follow Tradition?
      http://story.scout.com/a.z?s=179&p=2&c=497472 
     Focus 2007 - LB Bryce McNaul
      http://northwestern.scout.com/2/497571.html 

     College football recruiting 101
      http://msn.foxsports.com/cfb/story/5312496?CMP=OTC-K9B140813162&ATT=24 
     For college coaches, it's substance over style 
      http://rssfeeds.usatoday.com/UsatodaycomCollegeFootball-TopStories?m=508 

LACROSSE

     Northwestern grabs the top spot
 
http://www.insidelacrosse.com/page.cfm?pagerid=2&news=fdetail&storyid=110957 

SOCCER

     Bohannon takes a learning curve to Uganda
 
http://www.postcrescent.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20060207/APC02/602070650/
1892 

SWIMMING

     Wolverines' record-setting day proves to be too much for Cats
 
http://www.dailynorthwestern.com/vnews/display.v/ART/2006/02/07/43e83b0e62336 

TENNIS

     Men's tennis escapes with home win against Harvard 
 
http://www.dailynorthwestern.com/vnews/display.v/ART/2006/02/07/43e83a825d7fc 

     Women
     No. 4 Wildcats upset, win two in consolation play 
 
http://www.dailynorthwestern.com/vnews/display.v/ART/2006/02/07/43e83bf564448 

WRESTLING

     NU knocks off No. 3 Illinois in OT thriller
 
http://www.dailynorthwestern.com/vnews/display.v/ART/2006/02/07/43e83c9533345 

MISCELLANY

     Changing the 'Cat: NU revises Willie standards
 
http://www.dailynorthwestern.com/vnews/display.v/ART/2006/02/07/43e83e7a104a7 
     We're not the only one's losing staff in the Big 10
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http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/rssclick/2006/football/ncaa/02/06/miami.assista
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From rstetson at capps-assoc.com  Tue Feb  7 17:22:47 2006
From: rstetson at capps-assoc.com (Roy Lamberton)
Date: Tue Feb  7 17:29:55 2006
Subject: [NU Sports] coaches leaving (fwd)
In-Reply-To: <200602072113.k17LDAbE007546@romaine.tssi.com>
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A little rambling, but you nailed it Mike....

Walker is one or two coaches away from becoming the "Dean" of Big 10/11 coaches
and I know its eating up a few on this list....

Back when he got the extension to his contract one of things he got from Rick
Taylor was raises for the assistants to bring them closer to the rest of the
league. I think he's still pushing for that and I think the quality of the guys
who have followed the original Miami crew is a reflection of that requirement

However, I think that if he gets a new contract, or extension, he'll do the same
thing for the assistants, and pour a few more bucks into the program. 

FWIW - Randy has stayed 10 years at his last 2 big jobs, but I think he'd like
to finish out at NU and will do whatever it takes to do that.

A little inside stuff: Last year I walked out of the practice facility with RW
and one or two other hanger's on. During our official postgame interviews he
talked about finishing above .500 but as we walked off, we were talking about
winning 7 in 2004 and how I almost bought #7 pins to give to the coaches after
Spring 2005. [we'd finished 6-6 for a couple of years]

He said, almost to himself, that he was tired of just finishing at .500 or even
at 6-6 and wanted better. Its one of the "off the tape" things he's said in my
presence, and since he finished above .500 at 7-4 I feel open to pass it on.

I know there are those who don't like Coach Walker, but I suggest that if you
can, come to a few practices and hang around afterwards. 

Coach Walker is the kind of guy that I'd send my kids to play under. He expects
them to win and will do what it takes to help them get there. If you as a player
put out the effort, he and his staff will try get you there as a winner.

If what I've heard is true, we're in fine shape on the offensive side of the
ball - we'll find the assistants to continue the system. What is encouraging is
that our defensive coaching team is still intact. I had heard rumbles preseason
that at least one besides Fitz was in the crosshairs.

rsl

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> -----Original Message-----
> From: nwu-sports-bounces@tssi.com 
> [mailto:nwu-sports-bounces@tssi.com] On Behalf Of Mike Nolan
> Sent: Tuesday, February 07, 2006 4:13 PM
> To: nwu-sports@romaine.tssi.com
> Subject: RE: [NU Sports] coaches leaving (fwd)
> 
> 
> > However, I think the days of coaching stability are almost 
> gone - look 
> > at all the changes happening not only at our place, but up 
> the road in 
> > Madison...
> 
> True.  Coaches with the length of tenure of a JoePa, Tom 
> Osborne or Bobby Bowden are likely to be rare commodities in 
> the next 25 years.  Solich 
> couldn't cut it as Osborne's successor (though that's a very 
> complex issue), I don't know what will happen at Penn State 
> and FSU when those legends finally hang it up or leave the 
> building feet first, but I'd put money that their successors 
> will stumble a bit, too.  
> 
> How many years did it take for a coach to emerge from the shadows of 
> Darryl Royal at Texas?  Has Alabama found a satisfactory 
> replacement for 
> the Bear yet?  No coach at Notre Dame since Rocke has made it 
> beyond 11 
> years or won more than 100 games (Rocke won 105 in 13 
> seasons, Holtz 100 
> in 11, Parseghian 95 in 11, Leahy 87 in 11.)  I guess the luck of the 
> Irish doesn't apply to the head coach.
> 
> Ferentz has so far seemed a worthy successor to Hayden Fry, it'll be 
> interesting to watch what happens in Madison over the next 
> few years.  
> One advantage Osborne had in Lincoln was he had Devaney 
> (fondly known as the Bobfather) protecting his flank, will 
> Alvarez do that for his chosen 
> successor?  What will happen when Lloyd Carr steps down at 
> Michigan? (15 weeks ago I might have phrased that 'is forced 
> out at Michigan', but I think he's safe for another year or two.)
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From MHRJGScott at aol.com  Tue Feb  7 17:42:51 2006
From: MHRJGScott at aol.com (MHRJGScott@aol.com)
Date: Tue Feb  7 17:44:17 2006
Subject: [NU Sports] Please unsubscribe me.  Thanks.
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Yeah I am going to drive over to Tampa either Sat or Sun depending on the  
weather.
 
 
In a message dated 2/6/2006 11:13:41 PM Eastern Standard Time,  
spiritu@northwestern.edu writes:

Anyways,  is anyone going to see any of our first 22 baseball games, all on 
the  road?





From Sanford_Stein at rush.edu  Tue Feb  7 13:52:04 2006
From: Sanford_Stein at rush.edu (Sanford_Stein@rush.edu)
Date: Tue Feb  7 19:08:56 2006
Subject: [NU Sports] coaches leaving
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Speaking as an Evanston public school parent, I believe that our
schools are among the best in the nation, public or private.

Nonetheless, a surprisingly high number of parents still choose to
send their children to private schools, despite the exorbitant taxes we
all pay to the school district.  Why?  One reason is that Evanston
has a lot of highly educated and affluent people with counterculture
leanings.  They are enamored of alternative programs like
Montessori and Waldorf, as well as home schooling.
And some people will always choose parochial schools, for
personal reasons.

Another reason, I am ashamed to admit, is elitism.  There are children
of all economic classes in the public schools, and some folks feel
that having poor kids in the classroom somehow diminishes the quality
of everybody's education.  Personally, I am thankful that my son
learned to get along with and respect people of all ethnic and income
groups--and this did not keep him from aceing the SATs.
I know nothing about Norman, Oklahoma, but the Evanston schools
should be a selling point in attracting coaches.

(This is probably no longer a "sports" thread so we should keep any
further comments on the subject off-list).

                        SS



                                                                           
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Not to knock north Chicago, but having lived in Norman, and having had a
wife
teach just across the river, I can tell you that the Public School of
Norman,
OK, with the University of OK there, are as good as anything around
Evanston.

If the public schools in and around Evanston are so good, why are there so
many
private schools?

rsl



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I will contest one of Roy's points:

"I know from experience that OU pays better than NU, the weather's nicer
most of
the year, you don't have to send your kids to private school in Norman, and
he
can use all the red stuff left over from Miami. "

Any Northwestern staffer who feels that he has to send his kids to private
school is kidding himself - any Public school on the North Shore, including
ETHS
and New Trier, is better than its private counterparts - I'd match ETHS,
New
Trier or Glenview against North Shore Country Day or Roycemore, or the
parochials like Loyola Academy, and the public schools would win going
away.
And they would certainly outperform anything he might find in the public
schools
in Norman, Oklahoma.

Chuck Herron   Tech '85

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From tkmaycock at yahoo.com  Tue Feb  7 10:32:09 2006
From: tkmaycock at yahoo.com (Tom Maycock)
Date: Tue Feb  7 19:33:24 2006
Subject: [NU Sports] coaches leaving
In-Reply-To: <060201c62bf6$0e37e090$97492745@hilgraeve.com>
Message-ID: <20060207163209.21423.qmail@web33110.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

--- Jeff Beamsley <jeffb@hilgraeve.com> wrote:

>  Roy,
> 
> Why do you think so many coaches are leaving?

I too will be interested in Roy's insight, but I think you forgot one
fairly obvious possibility:

5) Our offense was very good this year, which raised he profile of our
offensive coaches.

Tom

From tbng at suscom.net  Tue Feb  7 21:17:33 2006
From: tbng at suscom.net (Dennis W. Brandt)
Date: Tue Feb  7 21:24:21 2006
Subject: [NU Sports] No ifs and and, hopefully, no Butz
References: <005401c62c3d$6804a580$6500a8c0@DAVIDXP>
Message-ID: <001001c62c5e$341e5970$c102a8c0@DENNISMACHINE>

Who is this Butz (appropriately named) character who goes to Iran and denies 
the holocaust?
Why is a clown like that a professor at my alma mater?

Basketball, football, men's field hockey (obligatory reference to sports)

From sjtruog at yahoo.com  Tue Feb  7 21:18:00 2006
From: sjtruog at yahoo.com (SjT (Stephen J. Truog))
Date: Tue Feb  7 21:26:02 2006
Subject: [NU Sports] coaches leaving (fwd)
In-Reply-To: <200602072113.k17LDAbE007546@romaine.tssi.com>
Message-ID: <20060208031800.45838.qmail@web52908.mail.yahoo.com>

Good points, Mike, but I do believe the Big Ten is a
bit more stable than most other places.

Tressel keeps winning bowl games and beating that team
from up north, and if he gets another title in the
next couple years, he could be set in the Shoe for
life -- the only worry is those NCAA sanctions that
seem to be hovering around Columbus every now and
then.

Ferentz keeps turning down big paydays to stay at Iowa
and is a heck of a coach ... Carr's safe at Michigan a
little longer at least and JoePa seems re-energized at
PSU (succession at UM and PSU are in doubt though --
but that won't come up in '06).

The two interesting ones to watch for me are at Purdue
and Minny. Mason's hit the wall with the Gophers --
six or seven wins on a soft schedule, maybe a nice
upset every now and then (@ Michigan, @PSU, etc.), but
with no new stadium and small fan support, they're not
over that hump as a contender.

As for Purdue, Tiller's the un-Barnett. He took the
Boilers to Pasadena and then stayed longer than I ever
thought he would, passing up offers and no longer
really the buzz-word coach. He's done a nice job
reinventing Purdue, but they're in danger of
plateauing as well. Will the Boiler fans get restless
now that they've tasted success?

As for the rest of the league, Smith's probably on the
biggest hotseat and not just because MSU fans are
notoriously fickle ... the pattern of November
collapses is gonna put a lot of pressure on this year.

But the rest looks stable for awhile. Walker's not
going anywhere. IU and UI are in pretty good
rebuilding mode and Wisky has a hand-picked successor
with -- as Mike said -- Alvarez watching his back from
the AD chair.

GO CATS!!!
-SjT

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From michael.vance at att.net  Tue Feb  7 22:01:53 2006
From: michael.vance at att.net (Michael Vance)
Date: Tue Feb  7 22:02:48 2006
Subject: [NU Sports] coaches leaving
In-Reply-To: <OF788D6701.6F3A6D22-ON8625710E.006B0636-8625710E.006D2352@rsh.net>
References: <OF788D6701.6F3A6D22-ON8625710E.006B0636-8625710E.006D2352@rsh.net>
Message-ID: <43E96D31.40906@att.net>

The public schools in any university town tend to be good because the 
constituents demand it.  These are parents who obviously value 
education.  Comparing Evanston to Norman is probably a completely 
ridiculous prospect.

-Michael

Sanford_Stein@rush.edu wrote:
> Speaking as an Evanston public school parent, I believe that our
> schools are among the best in the nation, public or private.
> 
>"Roy Lamberton" <rstetson@capps-assoc.com> wrote:
> Not to knock north Chicago, but having lived in Norman, and having had a
> wife
> teach just across the river, I can tell you that the Public School of
> Norman,
> OK, with the University of OK there, are as good as anything around
> Evanston.

From s.fridley at comcast.net  Tue Feb  7 22:25:22 2006
From: s.fridley at comcast.net (s.fridley@comcast.net)
Date: Tue Feb  7 22:26:18 2006
Subject: [NU Sports] No ifs and and, hopefully, no Butz
Message-ID: <020820060425.6829.43E972B20005E12C00001AAD2207002953970A040B079D00D29C@comcast.net>

This guy is, indeed, a flippin' clown.  He apparently achieved tenure in 1974.  He is a professor of Electrical Engineering, NOT of history.

Subsequent to receiving tenue, he published (self-published?) his book, which denies the holocaust. 

I don't believe he actually went to Iran but believe he was "interviewed" by their state-run "newspaper."

It is my understanding that over the years NU has watched VERY carefully to ensure that he never mentions his idiotic theories in class.  I'd have to believe he'd be booted out on his ass in a heartbeat if that happened.

Now, why anyone signs up for his class I don't know...  


 -------------- Original message ----------------------
From: "Dennis W. Brandt" <tbng@suscom.net>
> Who is this Butz (appropriately named) character who goes to Iran and denies 
> the holocaust?
> Why is a clown like that a professor at my alma mater?
> 
> Basketball, football, men's field hockey (obligatory reference to sports)
> 
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From johnadeg at bellatlantic.net  Tue Feb  7 22:57:03 2006
From: johnadeg at bellatlantic.net (John A. DeGroat)
Date: Tue Feb  7 22:57:38 2006
Subject: [NU Sports] No ifs and and, hopefully, no Butz
In-Reply-To: <001001c62c5e$341e5970$c102a8c0@DENNISMACHINE>
References: <005401c62c3d$6804a580$6500a8c0@DAVIDXP>
	<001001c62c5e$341e5970$c102a8c0@DENNISMACHINE>
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I raised that question a number of years ago and got the usual  BS about 
being tenured and that what he says hs nothing to do with electrical 
engineering.  The real question is why was as he given tenure in the 
first place.

At the end of World War II, my dad who was a pathologist in the Army 
Medical Corps was supposed to go into Buchenwald and gather medical 
evidence for the Nuremberg trials.  As it turned out, he had so many 
points that they shipped him home for discharge otherwise I doubt that 
he would have gotten home before 1946.  I take offense at guys like 
Butz.  Eisenhower was smart when he had the signal corps take pictures 
at all of the concentration camps that we liberated.  He reasoned that 
after a few years, there would be people denying that they ever 
existed.  I also take offense at Bernardine Dohrn being on teaching at 
the law school, but taht is another story.  Keeping people like that 
around gives Northwestern a bad name.

John DeGroat



Dennis W. Brandt wrote:

> Who is this Butz (appropriately named) character who goes to Iran and 
> denies the holocaust?
> Why is a clown like that a professor at my alma mater?
>
> Basketball, football, men's field hockey (obligatory reference to sports)
>
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From wseliger at aol.com  Tue Feb  7 22:58:21 2006
From: wseliger at aol.com (wseliger@aol.com)
Date: Tue Feb  7 23:02:27 2006
Subject: [NU Sports] coaches leaving
In-Reply-To: <OF788D6701.6F3A6D22-ON8625710E.006B0636-8625710E.006D2352@rsh.net>
Message-ID: <8C7FA836AEC1A27-1300-1963F@mblk-d50.sysops.aol.com>

 Do any of the coaches actually live in or near Evanston?  When I was more familiar with the coaching staff 6 or 8 years ago I was surprised to learn that most of them lived well away from Evanston.  I'm not sure you could afford to live in Evanston on anything other than a Head Coach's salary (unless you wanted to live in an apartment).
 
 - Bill
 
-----Original Message-----
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Sent: Tue, 7 Feb 2006 13:52:04 -0600
Subject: RE: [NU Sports] coaches leaving






Speaking as an Evanston public school parent, I believe that our
schools are among the best in the nation, public or private.

Nonetheless, a surprisingly high number of parents still choose to
send their children to private schools, despite the exorbitant taxes we
all pay to the school district.  Why?  One reason is that Evanston
has a lot of highly educated and affluent people with counterculture
leanings.  They are enamored of alternative programs like
Montessori and Waldorf, as well as home schooling.
And some people will always choose parochial schools, for
personal reasons.

Another reason, I am ashamed to admit, is elitism.  There are children
of all economic classes in the public schools, and some folks feel
that having poor kids in the classroom somehow diminishes the quality
of everybody's education.  Personally, I am thankful that my son
learned to get along with and respect people of all ethnic and income
groups--and this did not keep him from aceing the SATs.
I know nothing about Norman, Oklahoma, but the Evanston schools
should be a selling point in attracting coaches.

(This is probably no longer a "sports" thread so we should keep any
further comments on the subject off-list).

                        SS



                                                                           
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Not to knock north Chicago, but having lived in Norman, and having had a
wife
teach just across the river, I can tell you that the Public School of
Norman,
OK, with the University of OK there, are as good as anything around
Evanston.

If the public schools in and around Evanston are so good, why are there so
many
private schools?

rsl



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Subject: Re: [NU Sports] coaches leaving



I will contest one of Roy's points:

"I know from experience that OU pays better than NU, the weather's nicer
most of
the year, you don't have to send your kids to private school in Norman, and
he
can use all the red stuff left over from Miami. "

Any Northwestern staffer who feels that he has to send his kids to private
school is kidding himself - any Public school on the North Shore, including
ETHS
and New Trier, is better than its private counterparts - I'd match ETHS,
New
Trier or Glenview against North Shore Country Day or Roycemore, or the
parochials like Loyola Academy, and the public schools would win going
away.
And they would certainly outperform anything he might find in the public
schools
in Norman, Oklahoma.

Chuck Herron   Tech '85

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From nolan at romaine.tssi.com  Tue Feb  7 23:21:30 2006
From: nolan at romaine.tssi.com (Mike Nolan)
Date: Tue Feb  7 23:21:33 2006
Subject: [NU Sports] No ifs and and, hopefully, no Butz (
Message-ID: <200602080521.k185LUOR019810@romaine.tssi.com>

As an EE major, I took several courses from Prof. Butz when I was at NU.  
He was not known for having those views at the time, I don't think they
surfaced until after he was awarded tenure.

I'm not sure they would have been a factor in his tenure decision under
AAUP tenure guidelines anyway.  Tenure is supposed to be based on someone's 
research, publishing and teaching skills.  (I wasn't impressed with him 
as a teacher, but I wasn't the most dedicated of students and numerical 
analysis wasn't exactly an exciting subject, either.) 
--
Mike Nolan

From johnadeg at bellatlantic.net  Tue Feb  7 22:15:49 2006
From: johnadeg at bellatlantic.net (John A. DeGroat)
Date: Wed Feb  8 01:17:16 2006
Subject: [NU Sports] coaches leaving
In-Reply-To: <200602071833.k17IX9DY004124@romaine.tssi.com>
References: <200602071833.k17IX9DY004124@romaine.tssi.com>
Message-ID: <43E97075.3020604@bellatlantic.net>

The concern isn't that they are leaving but rather why are they 
leaving.  No one really knows except for them.

John DeGroat

Mike Nolan wrote:

>>Randy Walker's team, despite what you read, and his comments about being the
>>only assistant left in 10 years is not a negative comment about running off
>>staff, but a belief that for his assistants and the NU program to continue
>>growing under his leadership, there has to be turnover among those assistants.
>>    
>>
>
>For years (possibly decades) it was an article of faith among Husker fans
>that stability within the coaching staff was a large component of the
>Nebraska success story, despite quite a bit of evidence to the contrary.
>
>Point 1:
>When the head coach (Osborne) retired and Solich was elevated to take over, 
>all of the assistant coaches stayed on, and within a few years they 'led' 
>the Huskers to a 7-7 record.  Wholesale changes among the assistant coaches 
>followed, and the team rebounded to 9-2, but the new AD fired Solich anyway.  
>
>Point 2:
>When the head coach (Devaney) retired and Osborne was elevated to take over, 
>most of the assistants left.  Osborne never won fewer than 9 games a year
>in his 25 seasons at Nebraska.
>
>I find it interesting that the same assistant coaches that so many were
>willing to dump are now a cause of concern because they're leaving.
>--
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From jonathanwhodges at gmail.com  Wed Feb  8 06:56:15 2006
From: jonathanwhodges at gmail.com (Jonathan Hodges)
Date: Wed Feb  8 07:03:56 2006
Subject: [NU Sports] No ifs and and, hopefully, no Butz
In-Reply-To: <43E97A1F.5050207@bellatlantic.net>
References: <005401c62c3d$6804a580$6500a8c0@DAVIDXP>
	<001001c62c5e$341e5970$c102a8c0@DENNISMACHINE>
	<43E97A1F.5050207@bellatlantic.net>
Message-ID: <fcb3ee270602080456v7f8b0c1dq1cfe3fd4ccafdbe7@mail.gmail.com>

List member Jim Leonard's letter concerning this topic made it into
the Daily today:

http://www.dailynorthwestern.com/vnews/display.v/ART/2006/02/08/43e99cffe1b8a

I am glad that we can bring this up on this list (despite its
non-sports nature), as many list members do have insights into this
topic (especially since we have people who attended NU from many
decades).  It is also good to see that the campus never really forgets
about this professor - about every 4 years or so this topic resurfaces
and the students are as outraged as the ones who came before them.

Jonathan

On 2/7/06, John A. DeGroat <johnadeg@bellatlantic.net> wrote:
> I raised that question a number of years ago and got the usual  BS about
> being tenured and that what he says hs nothing to do with electrical
> engineering.  The real question is why was as he given tenure in the
> first place.
>
> At the end of World War II, my dad who was a pathologist in the Army
> Medical Corps was supposed to go into Buchenwald and gather medical
> evidence for the Nuremberg trials.  As it turned out, he had so many
> points that they shipped him home for discharge otherwise I doubt that
> he would have gotten home before 1946.  I take offense at guys like
> Butz.  Eisenhower was smart when he had the signal corps take pictures
> at all of the concentration camps that we liberated.  He reasoned that
> after a few years, there would be people denying that they ever
> existed.  I also take offense at Bernardine Dohrn being on teaching at
> the law school, but taht is another story.  Keeping people like that
> around gives Northwestern a bad name.
>
> John DeGroat
>
>
>
> Dennis W. Brandt wrote:
>
> > Who is this Butz (appropriately named) character who goes to Iran and
> > denies the holocaust?
> > Why is a clown like that a professor at my alma mater?
> >
> > Basketball, football, men's field hockey (obligatory reference to sports)
> >
> > _______________________________________________
> > nwu-sports site list
> > nwu-sports@tssi.com
> > http://romaine.tssi.com/mailman/listinfo/nwu-sports
> >
>
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From tbng at suscom.net  Wed Feb  8 06:58:15 2006
From: tbng at suscom.net (Dennis W. Brandt)
Date: Wed Feb  8 07:04:12 2006
Subject: [NU Sports] No ifs and and, hopefully, no Butz
References: <005401c62c3d$6804a580$6500a8c0@DAVIDXP>
	<001001c62c5e$341e5970$c102a8c0@DENNISMACHINE>
Message-ID: <002001c62caf$534e57e0$c102a8c0@DENNISMACHINE>

On December 7 past, I attended a breakfast where my father and other 
survivors of Pearl Harbor and the Battle of the Bulge received medals of 
appreciation.  I chanced to sit beside a humble little man from that 
grandest of all cultural centers, Felton, Pennsylvania.  (You better have a 
detailed York County map to find it.)  He served in WWII with an engineering 
battalion that was among those liberating Buchenwald, a horrible memory that 
has never left him.  I guess the Jews must have hypnotized him into seeing 
something that wasn't there, or so Dr. Butts [sic] would say.

What an argument against the practice of tenure. 

From rstetson at capps-assoc.com  Wed Feb  8 09:46:12 2006
From: rstetson at capps-assoc.com (Roy Lamberton)
Date: Wed Feb  8 09:46:32 2006
Subject: [NU Sports] NU Sports News Digest 2/8
Message-ID: <000901c62cc6$c9f19f80$6500a8c0@DAVIDXP>

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BASKETBALL

     Men
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      http://nusports.collegesports.com/sports/m-baskbl/spec-rel/020706aab.html 
     + Hawkeyes soaring into town
 
http://www.dailynorthwestern.com/vnews/display.v/ART/2006/02/08/43e99bbc6008d 
     + BKB Pregame Intel: Iowa Hawkeyes
      http://northwestern.scout.com/2/497920.html 

     Next Up is Iowa
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http://hawkeyesports.collegesports.com/sports/m-baskbl/spec-rel/020606aac.html 
     + Hawks face Cats' jinx
 
http://www.dailyiowan.com/news/2006/02/08/Sports/Hawks.Face.Cats.Jinx-1603320.sh
tml 
     + Hawkeyes hope past is history with 'Cats
 
http://www.hawkcentral.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20060208/HAWKS0102/6020803
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http://www.radioiowa.com/gestalt/go.cfm?objectid=302DA90A-639F-4815-A73B76F7D7B1
67D1&dbtranslator=local.cfm 
     + Iowa aims to fix bumpy Northwestern ride
 
http://www.desmoinesregister.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20060208/SPORTS02050
101/602080368/1003/SPORTS 
     + Not doing it his way
 
http://chicagosports.chicagotribune.com/sports/college/mensbasketball/cs-0602080
231feb08,1,4935912.story?coll=cs-college-mensbball-print 
     + First-Place Hawkeyes Look To Push Winning Streak To Five In Matchup With
Northwestern
      http://www.cstv.com/sports/m-baskbl/stories/020706adp.html 
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      http://bigten.collegesports.com/sports/m-baskbl/spec-rel/020606aaa.html 
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     Other Big 10
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http://chicagosports.chicagotribune.com/sports/college/northwestern/cs-060206big
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http://www.dailynorthwestern.com/vnews/display.v/ART/2006/02/08/43e99ac70b60e 

     Women

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FOOTBALL

     Rakov: Coaching absences won't hurt
 
http://www.dailynorthwestern.com/vnews/display.v/ART/2006/02/08/43e99b39ba5eb 

     The Wildcat offense has lost two of its coaches in a week.
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     Focus 2007 - TE Austin Szafranski
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      http://story.scout.com/a.z?s=179&p=2&c=497836 
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      http://story.scout.com/a.z?s=179&p=2&c=497832 

LACROSSE

     Kristen Kjellman to be Featured in this Month's Sporting News Magazine
      http://nusports.collegesports.com/sports/w-lacros/spec-rel/020706aaa.html 

SOFTBALL

     Let's Get It Started: Wildcats Ready For 2006
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      http://nusports.collegesports.com/sports/m-swim/spec-rel/020706aaa.html 

TENNIS

     Women
     Rose-y start
 
http://www.dailynorthwestern.com/vnews/display.v/ART/2006/02/08/43e99c3bf01a8 

WRESTLING

     Hawkeyes Host Illinois and Northwestern
 
http://hawkeyesports.collegesports.com/sports/m-wrestl/spec-rel/020706aac.html 

Alumni

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From jeffb at hilgraeve.com  Wed Feb  8 11:16:26 2006
From: jeffb at hilgraeve.com (Jeff Beamsley)
Date: Wed Feb  8 12:42:55 2006
Subject: [NU Sports] No ifs and and, hopefully, no Butz
In-Reply-To: <020820060425.6829.43E972B20005E12C00001AAD2207002953970A040B079D00D29C@comcast.net>
Message-ID: <030801c62cd3$64783940$97492745@hilgraeve.com>

 It was admittedly a long time ago, but I recall that he taught at least one
or two required classes for EE majors.  So there wasn't any choice.  

My recollection of his class was that he was one of those seriously bright,
seriously unbalanced, personally disconnected people that could only survive
in academia.

It is the ugly side of free speech, but you have to celebrate the fact that
as long as he abides by the rules of keeping his personal and professional
lives separate, NU has given him an opportunity to earn a living.

Jeff

-----Original Message-----
From: nwu-sports-bounces@tssi.com [mailto:nwu-sports-bounces@tssi.com] On
Behalf Of s.fridley@comcast.net
Sent: Tuesday, February 07, 2006 11:25 PM
To: Dennis W. Brandt; nwu-sports@romaine.tssi.com
Subject: Re: [NU Sports] No ifs and and, hopefully, no Butz

This guy is, indeed, a flippin' clown.  He apparently achieved tenure in
1974.  He is a professor of Electrical Engineering, NOT of history.

Subsequent to receiving tenue, he published (self-published?) his book,
which denies the holocaust. 

I don't believe he actually went to Iran but believe he was "interviewed" by
their state-run "newspaper."

It is my understanding that over the years NU has watched VERY carefully to
ensure that he never mentions his idiotic theories in class.  I'd have to
believe he'd be booted out on his ass in a heartbeat if that happened.

Now, why anyone signs up for his class I don't know...  


 -------------- Original message ----------------------
From: "Dennis W. Brandt" <tbng@suscom.net>
> Who is this Butz (appropriately named) character who goes to Iran and 
> denies the holocaust?
> Why is a clown like that a professor at my alma mater?
> 
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From tbng at suscom.net  Wed Feb  8 12:59:12 2006
From: tbng at suscom.net (Dennis W. Brandt)
Date: Wed Feb  8 13:00:16 2006
Subject: [NU Sports] No ifs and and, hopefully, no Butz
References: <030801c62cd3$64783940$97492745@hilgraeve.com>
Message-ID: <000301c62ce1$c262dac0$c102a8c0@DENNISMACHINE>

<[Butz] is a professor of Electrical Engineering, NOT of history.

No kidding!

From Hakirsch at aol.com  Wed Feb  8 13:39:12 2006
From: Hakirsch at aol.com (Hakirsch@aol.com)
Date: Wed Feb  8 14:18:16 2006
Subject: [NU Sports] No ifs and and, hopefully, no Butz
Message-ID: <e8.24975561.311ba2e0@aol.com>

Yes it was in 1977 that the story boke about his holocaust denial book I was 
a naive student at the time.--Some say he was just a front, that the Nazi 
groups needed a "credible " author- and a prof from NU would provide that. But on 
several  subsequent occasions, he has expoused these views--and all NU can do 
is disavow them


He was interviewed on WNUR and came out as expected--sounding like a complete 
jerk, with a lot of facts wrong--

Unfortunately I think we felt we had to hold our nose and let him stay so 
long as he wasn't teaching that crap--  Funny, around the same time Earl Butz had 
to resign as Sec Of Agriculture for making a racist  and very insensitive 
joke  which was reported  by John Dean (he had overheard him say it)- in the 
Rolling Stone -and some of the Nazi facists overseas thought the 2 guys were the 
same

Harry Kirsch
From jleonard518 at yahoo.com  Wed Feb  8 18:07:09 2006
From: jleonard518 at yahoo.com (Jim Leonard)
Date: Wed Feb  8 18:15:06 2006
Subject: [NU Sports] coaches leaving
In-Reply-To: <8C7FA836AEC1A27-1300-1963F@mblk-d50.sysops.aol.com>
Message-ID: <20060209000709.6766.qmail@web36802.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

Gary Barnett lived in Evanston. I'm pretty sure that his son Clay went to
Loyola Academy or some other private school. His daughter Courtney went to
ETHS. I agree, few assistants could afford Evanston. 

--- wseliger@aol.com wrote:

>  Do any of the coaches actually live in or near Evanston?  When I was more
> familiar with the coaching staff 6 or 8 years ago I was surprised to learn
> that most of them lived well away from Evanston.  I'm not sure you could
> afford to live in Evanston on anything other than a Head Coach's salary
> (unless you wanted to live in an apartment).
>  
>  - Bill
>  
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Sanford_Stein@rush.edu
> To: rstetson@capps-assoc.com
> Cc: nwu-sports-bounces@tssi.com; nwu-sports@tssi.com
> Sent: Tue, 7 Feb 2006 13:52:04 -0600
> Subject: RE: [NU Sports] coaches leaving
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Speaking as an Evanston public school parent, I believe that our
> schools are among the best in the nation, public or private.
> 
> Nonetheless, a surprisingly high number of parents still choose to
> send their children to private schools, despite the exorbitant taxes we
> all pay to the school district.  Why?  One reason is that Evanston
> has a lot of highly educated and affluent people with counterculture
> leanings.  They are enamored of alternative programs like
> Montessori and Waldorf, as well as home schooling.
> And some people will always choose parochial schools, for
> personal reasons.
> 
> Another reason, I am ashamed to admit, is elitism.  There are children
> of all economic classes in the public schools, and some folks feel
> that having poor kids in the classroom somehow diminishes the quality
> of everybody's education.  Personally, I am thankful that my son
> learned to get along with and respect people of all ethnic and income
> groups--and this did not keep him from aceing the SATs.
> I know nothing about Norman, Oklahoma, but the Evanston schools
> should be a selling point in attracting coaches.
> 
> (This is probably no longer a "sports" thread so we should keep any
> further comments on the subject off-list).
> 
>                         SS
> 
> 
> 
>                                                                            
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> 
> 
> 
> 
> Not to knock north Chicago, but having lived in Norman, and having had a
> wife
> teach just across the river, I can tell you that the Public School of
> Norman,
> OK, with the University of OK there, are as good as anything around
> Evanston.
> 
> If the public schools in and around Evanston are so good, why are there so
> many
> private schools?
> 
> rsl
> 
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> 
> 
> 
> I will contest one of Roy's points:
> 
> "I know from experience that OU pays better than NU, the weather's nicer
> most of
> the year, you don't have to send your kids to private school in Norman, and
> he
> can use all the red stuff left over from Miami. "
> 
> Any Northwestern staffer who feels that he has to send his kids to private
> school is kidding himself - any Public school on the North Shore, including
> ETHS
> and New Trier, is better than its private counterparts - I'd match ETHS,
> New
> Trier or Glenview against North Shore Country Day or Roycemore, or the
> parochials like Loyola Academy, and the public schools would win going
> away.
> And they would certainly outperform anything he might find in the public
> schools
> in Norman, Oklahoma.
> 
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From cherron604 at aol.com  Wed Feb  8 22:37:57 2006
From: cherron604 at aol.com (cherron604@aol.com)
Date: Wed Feb  8 22:59:26 2006
Subject: [NU Sports] We beat the #18 Hawks 51-48
Message-ID: <8C7FB49BBD44668-B68-2628@FWM-D16.sysops.aol.com>

A nice victory, though Iowans must be having nightmares about NU games.
 
Chuck Herron   Tech '85
From sjtruog at yahoo.com  Wed Feb  8 23:30:24 2006
From: sjtruog at yahoo.com (SjT (Stephen J. Truog))
Date: Wed Feb  8 23:31:39 2006
Subject: [NU Sports] We beat the #18 Hawks 51-48
In-Reply-To: <8C7FB49BBD44668-B68-2628@FWM-D16.sysops.aol.com>
Message-ID: <20060209053024.322.qmail@web52902.mail.yahoo.com>

Wow - nice win for Carmody and the Cats ... though
from the AP article, looks as if the NU fans get a
little (and deserved) lashing from Doyle about the
attendance.:)

And it's great to see Iowa not enjoying their annual
trips to the big city as much as usual! The bumblebees
had gotten far to used to spending the weekend in
Chicago and making themselves at home at Welsh-Ryan or
Dyche Stadium. But a couple hardcourt and gridiron
wins and we can make that long ride on I-80 stink
worse than that Hormel factory near the state line!

GO CATS!!!
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From rstetson at capps-assoc.com  Thu Feb  9 10:47:07 2006
From: rstetson at capps-assoc.com (Roy Lamberton)
Date: Thu Feb  9 13:04:38 2006
Subject: [NU Sports] NU Sports News Digest 2/9
Message-ID: <000601c62d98$7717b880$6500a8c0@DAVIDXP>

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The Jinx continues for the Hawkeyes as NU and VV slam the door. Lots of
Recruting updates, plus a few Football rumbles. Baseball, Soccer signees, Lady
Court Cats on the road to Iowa, Wrestling, Tennis and 
Alumni stuff too.
        All the News that Fits We Link
          Your Index to News about
       Northwestern University Athletics

BASKETBALL

     Men
     Northwestern Upends No. 18 Iowa, 51-48
      http://nusports.collegesports.com/sports/m-baskbl/recaps/020806aaa.html 
     + The Welsh-Ryan Jinx Continues for Iowa [with pictures]
      http://northwestern.scout.com/2/498193.html 
     + The Hawks Go Down at W-R: NU 51 Iowa 48
      http://northwestern.scout.com/2/498081.html 
     + Big man, big upset for Cats/Bad drill leads to NU thrill
 
http://chicagosports.chicagotribune.com/sports/college/cs-060208nu,1,3203145.sto
ry?coll=cs-college-headlines 
     + NU finally finishes big
      http://www.suntimes.com/output/campus/cst-spt-nu09.html 
     + Seniors come to NU?s rescue in victory
 
http://www.dailynorthwestern.com/vnews/display.v/ART/2006/02/09/43eafd042419f 
     + D?j? Vukusic: Cats shock Hawkeyes
 
http://www.dailynorthwestern.com/vnews/display.v/ART/2006/02/09/43eafb69e5970 
     + NU rally puts hurt on Iowa
      http://www.dailyherald.com/sports/northwestern.asp?id=152243 
     + U upsets No. 18 Iowa
      http://www.nwherald.com/SportsSection/362336645995423.php 
     + Vukusic's 26 help Wildcats to upset
      http://msn.foxsports.com/cbk/story/5318070 
     + Box Score
 
http://nusports.collegesports.com/sports/m-baskbl/stats/2005-2006/mb020806.html 
     + More Quotes
      http://nusports.collegesports.com/sports/m-baskbl/recaps/020806aad.html 
     + Notes
      http://nusports.collegesports.com/sports/m-baskbl/recaps/020906aad.html 
     + Photo Gallery
      http://nusports.collegesports.com/sports/m-baskbl/spec-rel/020806aaa.html 

     Tim Doyle: Wild win lost on WildSide
 
http://www.dailynorthwestern.com/vnews/display.v/ART/2006/02/09/43eafe4fdd59c 

     Cote's time running out to make big impression
 
http://www.pioneerlocal.com/cgi-bin/ppo-story/sports/current/ev/02-09-06-823289.
html 

     Notes, Quotes
 
http://www.usatoday.com/sports/college/mensbasketball/bigten/northwestern.htm 

     Iowa
     Road Woes
 
http://hawkeyesports.collegesports.com/sports/m-baskbl/recaps/020806aaa.html 
     + Hawks Lose to Wildcats...Again
      http://iowa.scout.com/2/498208.html 
     + Curse of the Cats continues
 
http://www.dailyiowan.com/news/2006/02/09/Sports/Curse.Of.The.Cats.Continues-160
5338.shtml 
     + Hawk killers again
 
http://www.dailyiowan.com/news/2006/02/09/Sports/Hawk-Killers.Again-1605347.shtm
l 
     + Hawkeye hairball
 
http://www.hawkcentral.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20060209/HAWKS0102/6020903
32/1080 
     + Iowa loss string at Northwestern continues
 
http://www.radioiowa.com/gestalt/go.cfm?objectid=04398CA7-B912-45B8-8D680400E497
F6B5&dbtranslator=local.cfm 
     + Wildcats foil Hawkeyes, again
 
http://www.desmoinesregister.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20060209/SPORTS02050
101/602090391/1003/SPORTS&lead=1 
     + Instant replay: Hawks suffer another heartbreaking loss in Evanston
 
http://www.hawkmania.com/articles/2006/02/09/mens_basketball/doc43eb5ce2d23be233
174536.txt 
     + Hawkeyes caught in Wildcat trap
 
http://www.qctimes.net/articles/2006/02/09/sports/doc43eaeac8c0b77870694600.txt 

     Next Up is Indiana Purdue Fort Wayen [IPFW]
     Purdue likely to give IPFW plenty to gauge
      http://www.fortwayne.com/mld/journalgazette/sports/colleges/13828352.htm 
     + Pompey's 20 Point Night not Enough
      http://www.ipfw.edu/athletics/MBasketball/Press/05-06/Feb04.htm 
     + 'Dons Race Past Jackrabbits
      http://www.ipfw.edu/athletics/MBasketball/Press/05-06/Feb06.htm 

     Other Big 10
     Badgers get back on track vs. Hoosiers
      http://www.suntimes.com/output/campus/cst-spt-big09.html 
     + Indiana's road woes continue
 
http://nwitimes.com/articles/2006/02/09/sports/college_sports/6664fcfb6b8cb02386
257110001786a7.txt 

     Boilers routed on road
 
http://nwitimes.com/articles/2006/02/09/sports/college_sports/906a65dc996a4e7286
2571100017fc38.txt 
     + Purdue freshmen growing into roles
      http://www.fortwayne.com/mld/journalgazette/sports/colleges/13828353.htm 

     Women
     Northwestern Takes To the Road
      http://nusports.collegesports.com/sports/w-baskbl/spec-rel/020806aaa.html 
     + Home not-so-sweet home: Hoops drawing few fans
 
http://www.dailynorthwestern.com/vnews/display.v/ART/2006/02/09/43eaff995db35 
     + Inside Iowa
 
http://hawkeyesports.collegesports.com/sports/w-baskbl/spec-rel/020906aaa.html 
     + Gametracker
 
javascript:window.open('http://livestats.nusports.collegesports.com/livestats/da
ta/w-baskbl/382419/','GameTrackerwbaskbl','toolbar=no,resizeable=no,scrollbars=n
o,width=780,height=540'); void(''); 
     + Listen [May require a subscription]
      http://allaccess.cstv.com/media/school.jsp?sid=2350&gSportId=3 

FOOTBALL

     Cats' Walker counting on work ethic
 
http://www.pioneerlocal.com/cgi-bin/ppo-story/sports/current/ev/02-09-06-822443.
html 

     Two offensive assistants leave Walker's staff
 
http://www.pioneerlocal.com/cgi-bin/ppo-story/sports/current/ev/02-09-06-822656.
html 

     Wisconsin among them...
     New coaches: Top faces in new places
      http://msn.foxsports.com/cfb/story/5316012?CMP=OTC-K9B140813162&ATT=24 

RECRUITING

     Has NU on the top of his list
     Focus 2007 - TE Austin Szafranski
      http://northwestern.scout.com/2/497865.html 

     All coming to Junior Day March 3rd
     Aaron Nagel Talks Big Ten [NU] offer
 
http://scout.scout.com/a.z?s=179&p=9&c=2&cid=498186&nid=2241621&fhn=1&refid=4742

     Austin Szafranski Just the beginning
 
http://scout.scout.com/a.z?s=179&p=9&c=2&cid=497867&nid=2403269&fhn=1&refid=4742


     $ RB Curtis Herzberg Gets Midwest Interest
      http://story.scout.com/a.z?s=179&p=2&c=498111 

BASEBALL

     Northwestern Inks Seven Baseball Signees
      http://nusports.collegesports.com/sports/m-basebl/spec-rel/020806aac.html 

SOCCER

     Haigh Inks Five to National Letters of Intent
      http://nusports.collegesports.com/sports/w-soccer/spec-rel/020806aae.html 

TENNIS

     Women
     Cristelle Grier Earns Big Ten Athlete of the Week Honors
      http://nusports.collegesports.com/sports/w-tennis/spec-rel/020806aac.html 
     + Northwestern's Grier Earns Fifth Player of the Week Honor
      http://bigten.collegesports.com/sports/w-tennis/spec-rel/020806aaa.html 

WRESTLING

     No. 13 Northwestern Ready to Take Mat Versus Pair of Top-20 Opponents
      http://nusports.collegesports.com/sports/m-wrestl/spec-rel/020806aac.html 
     + Big finish leads Wildcats to upset of No. 3 Illinois
 
http://www.pioneerlocal.com/cgi-bin/ppo-story/sports/current/ev/02-09-06-823960.
html 

Miscellany

     'Cats In Your Classroom!
      http://nusports.collegesports.com/sports/w-baskbl/spec-rel/020806aac.html 

Alumni

     Luke Donald
      http://www.pgatour.com/players/scorecard/291587/r005/2006 
     AT&T Pebble Beach National Pro-Am
      http://www.pgatour.com/tournaments/r005 

     Joe Girardi: Girardi prepared to school young Fish
 
http://florida.marlins.mlb.com/NASApp/mlb/news/article.jsp?ymd=20060206&content_
id=1306965&vkey=spt2006news&fext=.jsp&c_id=fla 
     + Marlins' Mitre says he can cut goatee
 
http://www.sun-sentinel.com/sports/sfl-marlins09feb09,0,869272.story?coll=sfla-s
ports-headlines 

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From whosonfirst81 at yahoo.com  Thu Feb  9 18:57:17 2006
From: whosonfirst81 at yahoo.com (Ben Adler)
Date: Thu Feb  9 18:58:37 2006
Subject: [NU Sports] Luke Donald's record day
Message-ID: <20060210005717.93577.qmail@web60720.mail.yahoo.com>

Out here at Pebble Beach -- in brilliantly sunny 70+ degree weather -- Luke Donald tied a Spyglass Hill course record set last year by Phil Mickelson at Spyglass with a 10-under par first round.
   
  Spyglass is generally considered the toughest of the three courses (the others are the Pebble Beach Golf Links and Poppy Hills).
   
  Last year, Mickelson started 10-under at Spyglass and coasted to victory.  But Donald only leads by one stroke over last year's runner-up, Mike Weir (who shot 9-under at Pebble), and by three strokes over a few others.

		
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From jonathanwhodges at gmail.com  Fri Feb 10 08:07:24 2006
From: jonathanwhodges at gmail.com (Jonathan Hodges)
Date: Fri Feb 10 08:08:33 2006
Subject: [NU Sports] Potential Football Rules Changes
Message-ID: <fcb3ee270602100607x13a63150p4c93b6638186782c@mail.gmail.com>

The following article outlines the proposed rules changes that were
brought up by the NCAA rules committee:

http://www.ajc.com/sports/content/sports/stories/0210replay.html

The major changes are:

- Coaches' challenge (for replay):  they would be able to challenge
until one of their challenges is denied.  The official in the booth
can still choose to review a play at any time.

The following will be put in place to help cut down on game length
(which is now at 3.5 hrs. + for regular season games across the NCAA):

- Halftime cut from 20 to 15 minutes unless both teams agree otherwise.

- Starting the clock as soon as the ball is ready for play after a
change of posession.

- Starting the clock on kickoffs as soon as the kicker touches the ball.

- Shortening the kickoff tee from 2" to 1" thereby making a touchback
more difficult.

My opinion:

- Coaches' challenge: a good idea, especially if the NCAA implements
replay uniformly across Division 1A, which is also scheduled to be
done.  This will allow the use of replay, which has generally been a
good addition to the college game, while avoiding Michigan/Iowa bowl
situations where the officials missed a lot of calls and they were not
reviewed.  This would also avoid the situation of a coach having to
use a timeout to get the replay official to review the call.  So far
replay has not increased the length of games much at all, so this
should not affect that matter.

- Length of games:  It is interesting how the length of games has been
increasing recently - probably attributed to the styles of offense
used now - a lot of passing (clock stops on incompletion), lots of
yardage (clock stops after first down until ball is set), and lots of
scoring (clock stops after the score).  The NFL pushes to get its
games into a 3 hr time slot for TV, and its rules have led to the NFL
running significantly fewer plays than college (by about 30 per game).
 The main difference is that in the NFL, the clock doesn't stop after
a first down - it runs but there is a longer play clock.  Will the
proposed changes make that much of an effect?  They will probably
shave a few minutes off, but will not do that much to bring the time
in line with pro football.  Should they try and be in line with pro
football?  I believe college should institute more rules to shave dow
nthe length of the game - at least to bring the number of plays in
line with pro ball.  While more plays means higher scoring and
potentially more excitement, it also means more chances of injury.  In
addition the overtime rules in college allow a close game to go on
even longer, so consideration should be taken to cut down on the time
more.  Besides the first down, there is also the option of not
stopping the clock when the play goes out of bounds except for the
final 5 minutes of each half.

- Halftime: I take great offense to the shortening of halftime in the
college game.  Marching bands are an integral part of the college
football experience (yes, I was in NUMB), and 20 minutes is barely
enough to put one halftime show on the field, let alone 2 if there is
another band there - since a good amount is already consumed with
contests/announcements/presentations anyways.  The intent of the
committee is clear here: the major concern is TV only.  If they were
concerned about the players safety and the atmosphere of the game they
would cut down the number of plays during the game (see suggestions
above) instead of cutting down on the amount of halftime.  Plus, I
don't see them cutting down on the number or length of TV/radio
timeouts, which would have the same effect.  If halftime is indeed cut
to 15 minutes, after they get done with all of the contests (which are
worthless, in my opinion, except for maybe in bowl games when its for
big money, not just a trip to Milwaukee or something) there will be
time for one song and the alma mater, if they are lucky.  Hopefully
someone will realize this situation and will do something to stop this
from going through.

The other changes make sense and accomplish the goal of cutting game
length by allowing more time to run off the clock.  The tee size
reduction may very well help NU since it has already been playing with
a handicapped kickoff style for some time now (i.e. our favorite pooch
kick).  Maybe we'll see more teams going to the pooch if they can't
get it in the end zone.

Jonathan


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From NEONRye at aol.com  Fri Feb 10 08:58:27 2006
From: NEONRye at aol.com (NEONRye@aol.com)
Date: Fri Feb 10 08:59:46 2006
Subject: [NU Sports] Potential Football Rules Changes
Message-ID: <284.56237ed.311e0413@aol.com>

Jonathan's points are all well taken.  
 
Another reason why 15 minutes is wholly insufficient and inappropriate for  
halftime:  It cuts down on the time that fans have to use rest rooms, buy  food 
and beverages, etc.  The trend towards favoring TV over fans in the  seats is 
getting really ugly--especially in the NFL, with late-season night  games in 
the always-balmy Northeast and Midwest, 4 p.m. E.S.T. starts on Sundays  for 
far too many games that should otherwise be played at 1 p.m. (or 12 p.m. in  
C.S.T.), long commercial breaks, etc.  And, of course, my favorite sport,  
baseball, has built a strong future fan base with those wonderful World Series  
night games that stretch into next week.  Not to mention our very own NCAA  with 
its night games on Tuesdays, Wednesdays, Thursdays and Fridays--which fits  
nicely into academic schedules and provides more than ample recovery time for  
the athletes between games.   Yes, the "idiot box" rules the Sports  Kingdom, 
and if anyone doubts this premise, just tune in NBC's coverage of the  
Olympics.  You just might see some competition amidst all of the commercial  clutter.  
 
Paul Levinson
From tbng at suscom.net  Fri Feb 10 09:52:19 2006
From: tbng at suscom.net (Dennis W. Brandt)
Date: Fri Feb 10 09:52:40 2006
Subject: [NU Sports] Potential Football Rules Changes
References: <284.56237ed.311e0413@aol.com>
Message-ID: <000801c62e59$f92c39b0$c102a8c0@DENNISMACHINE>

They forgot some real rule changes, two of which will speed up the game by 
eliminating reviews.

1. Use the NFL rule that states that a ball carrier who falls to the ground 
without being touched may get up and continue the play.  If this rule exists 
to reduce injuries, I have seen no evidence that injuries have occurred in 
the NFL due to the absence of the rule.  It's dumb to say, "Oops!  You 
slipped.  You're down.  Play over."  The idea is for the opposition to stop 
you.

2. NFL, you also listen up:  LET THE GROUND CAUSE A FUMBLE!  It used to, and 
it worked just fine.  It is ridiculous to say that a ball carrier hits the 
ground, loses possession, but - oops! - his knee was down 3 nanoseconds 
before, or he hits the turf headfirst, the ball pops out, and voila! 
Maintain possession.  The result of the rule is to lengthen games with 
reviews because it is often impossible for refs to discern events at real 
speed and/or amid a gang of tacklers.  Either the ball carrier maintains 
possession or he doesn't.  This includes the endzone.

3. Likewise, listen up NFL:  Zap the "breaking the plane" rule.  If we 
needed yet more evidence of how dumb that rule is, think no further than 
Roethlisberger's phantom touchdown in the Super Bowl, just the last of 
thousands of such examples.  Once more, the game halted while the refs 
looked at the replays again and again and again.  If Big Ben had to have 
actually gotten a knee into the endzone, the call was easy.  No TD.  Yes, it 
contradicts the position-of-the-ball-when-the-knee-touches rule.  Use it out 
in the field, but make the ball carrier actually enter the endzone for a 
score.  Inconsistent?  I don't care. 

From jeffb at hilgraeve.com  Fri Feb 10 10:24:10 2006
From: jeffb at hilgraeve.com (Jeff Beamsley)
Date: Fri Feb 10 10:28:46 2006
Subject: [NU Sports] Potential Football Rules Changes
In-Reply-To: <000801c62e59$f92c39b0$c102a8c0@DENNISMACHINE>
Message-ID: <038f01c62e5e$6c5a7970$97492745@hilgraeve.com>

 
The engineer in me says that the game should be perfect.  The only way to do
that is to eliminate the human element.  Instant replay is the first step in
that direction.  There are probably technical solutions to ball position
(end zone or otherwise).  It wouldn't be much harder to identify ball
position when a particular player's knee touched the ground.

The competitor in me, however, says that the games aren't supposed to be
perfect BECAUSE they are played by people.  The refs are part of the
equation just like the players.  This introduces yet one more element of
chance into the equation.  It is part of the celebration of our humanity.   

In the same vein, I applaud the fact that baseball has resisted automating
ball and strike calling.  The technology not only exists, but is regularly
used for TV broadcasts.  

I think that the refs (umps) have to be viewed as part of the game.  Their
mistakes (phantom touchdowns, phantom passed balls, etc.) are often what
make particular games memorable.

Jeff

-----Original Message-----
From: nwu-sports-bounces@tssi.com [mailto:nwu-sports-bounces@tssi.com] On
Behalf Of Dennis W. Brandt
Sent: Friday, February 10, 2006 10:52 AM
To: nwu-sports@tssi.com
Subject: Re: [NU Sports] Potential Football Rules Changes

They forgot some real rule changes, two of which will speed up the game by
eliminating reviews.

1. Use the NFL rule that states that a ball carrier who falls to the ground
without being touched may get up and continue the play.  If this rule exists
to reduce injuries, I have seen no evidence that injuries have occurred in
the NFL due to the absence of the rule.  It's dumb to say, "Oops!  You
slipped.  You're down.  Play over."  The idea is for the opposition to stop
you.

2. NFL, you also listen up:  LET THE GROUND CAUSE A FUMBLE!  It used to, and
it worked just fine.  It is ridiculous to say that a ball carrier hits the
ground, loses possession, but - oops! - his knee was down 3 nanoseconds
before, or he hits the turf headfirst, the ball pops out, and voila! 
Maintain possession.  The result of the rule is to lengthen games with
reviews because it is often impossible for refs to discern events at real
speed and/or amid a gang of tacklers.  Either the ball carrier maintains
possession or he doesn't.  This includes the endzone.

3. Likewise, listen up NFL:  Zap the "breaking the plane" rule.  If we
needed yet more evidence of how dumb that rule is, think no further than
Roethlisberger's phantom touchdown in the Super Bowl, just the last of
thousands of such examples.  Once more, the game halted while the refs
looked at the replays again and again and again.  If Big Ben had to have
actually gotten a knee into the endzone, the call was easy.  No TD.  Yes, it
contradicts the position-of-the-ball-when-the-knee-touches rule.  Use it out
in the field, but make the ball carrier actually enter the endzone for a
score.  Inconsistent?  I don't care. 

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From rstetson at capps-assoc.com  Fri Feb 10 09:20:08 2006
From: rstetson at capps-assoc.com (Roy Lamberton)
Date: Fri Feb 10 10:54:47 2006
Subject: [NU Sports] Potential Football Rules Changes
In-Reply-To: <284.56237ed.311e0413@aol.com>
Message-ID: <000a01c62e55$7a357760$6500a8c0@DAVIDXP>

If it makes no sense...

Follow the money.

I personally don't mind the 4 PM EST starts, especially when I don't go to the
games. Paul has probably suffered thru too many Giant and Jet games in that
wonderful icey wind tunnel in the Meadowlands.

NU's tailgating has been essentially destroyed by all the 11 AM starts but the
one night game a year has turned into a decent game, even if the student boogied
early last year.

Personally, I could handle a 30 minute half time, but the present 20 is just
fine.

IMHO of course

rsl

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> -----Original Message-----
> From: nwu-sports-bounces@tssi.com 
> [mailto:nwu-sports-bounces@tssi.com] On Behalf Of NEONRye@aol.com
> Sent: Friday, February 10, 2006 9:58 AM
> To: jonathanwhodges@gmail.com; nwu-sports@tssi.com
> Subject: Re: [NU Sports] Potential Football Rules Changes
> 
> 
> Jonathan's points are all well taken.  
>  
> Another reason why 15 minutes is wholly insufficient and 
> inappropriate for  
> halftime:  It cuts down on the time that fans have to use 
> rest rooms, buy  food 
> and beverages, etc.  The trend towards favoring TV over fans 
> in the  seats is 
> getting really ugly--especially in the NFL, with late-season 
> night  games in 
> the always-balmy Northeast and Midwest, 4 p.m. E.S.T. starts 
> on Sundays  for 
> far too many games that should otherwise be played at 1 p.m. 
> (or 12 p.m. in  
> C.S.T.), long commercial breaks, etc.  And, of course, my 
> favorite sport,  
> baseball, has built a strong future fan base with those 
> wonderful World Series  
> night games that stretch into next week.  Not to mention our 
> very own NCAA  with 
> its night games on Tuesdays, Wednesdays, Thursdays and 
> Fridays--which fits  
> nicely into academic schedules and provides more than ample 
> recovery time for  
> the athletes between games.   Yes, the "idiot box" rules the 
> Sports  Kingdom, 
> and if anyone doubts this premise, just tune in NBC's 
> coverage of the  
> Olympics.  You just might see some competition amidst all of 
> the commercial  clutter.  
>  
> Paul Levinson
> _______________________________________________
> nwu-sports site list
> nwu-sports@tssi.com 
> http://romaine.tssi.com/mailman/listinfo/nwu-sports
> 


From spiritu at northwestern.edu  Fri Feb 10 10:58:15 2006
From: spiritu at northwestern.edu (Jonathan Michael Hawkins)
Date: Fri Feb 10 11:06:49 2006
Subject: [NU Sports] Potential Football Rules Changes
In-Reply-To: <000801c62e59$f92c39b0$c102a8c0@DENNISMACHINE>
References: <284.56237ed.311e0413@aol.com>
	<000801c62e59$f92c39b0$c102a8c0@DENNISMACHINE>
Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.64.0602101055590.22197@localhost>

> 3. Likewise, listen up NFL:  Zap the "breaking the plane" rule.  If we 
> needed yet more evidence of how dumb that rule is, think no further than 
> Roethlisberger's phantom touchdown in the Super Bowl, just the last of 
> thousands of such examples.  Once more, the game halted while the refs 
> looked at the replays again and again and again.  If Big Ben had to have 
> actually gotten a knee into the endzone, the call was easy.  No TD. 
> Yes, it contradicts the position-of-the-ball-when-the-knee-touches rule. 
> Use it out in the field, but make the ball carrier actually enter the 
> endzone for a score.  Inconsistent?  I don't care.

Rugby has a wonderful way of doing this, that I wish were in American 
Football: it's a touchdown when you get into the end zone and actually, 
you know, touch the ball down onto the turf.  In Rugby you have to apply 
some positive pressure (downwards) on the ball into the turf before you 
can get a try.  This is where the word touchdown comes from, as far as I 
can tell.  Why can't we just go back to this?  I hate the "I stretched my 
arms out real far and got a nanometer of the ball across the plane" crap. 
That's no touchdown, it's a powderpuff league thing.

-- 
Jonathan Michael Hawkins
<http://www.jomiha.com>

From spiritu at northwestern.edu  Fri Feb 10 11:08:53 2006
From: spiritu at northwestern.edu (Jonathan Michael Hawkins)
Date: Fri Feb 10 11:10:16 2006
Subject: [NU Sports] Potential Football Rules Changes
In-Reply-To: <000a01c62e55$7a357760$6500a8c0@DAVIDXP>
References: <000a01c62e55$7a357760$6500a8c0@DAVIDXP>
Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.64.0602101058380.22197@localhost>

> NU's tailgating has been essentially destroyed by all the 11 AM starts

...and Peggy Barr killing the fraternity tailgates.  That, I would 
venture, was a bigger tailgate killer than the 11AM starts.  Unfortunately 
there's no way to put that particular genie back in the bottle.

It would help if tailgating passes were easier to get for actual 
tailgaters.  We had to donate $1000+ to get ours.  It was worth it, but 
this is a pretty high barrier even if you get 10 guys together like we 
did.

We seem to have a fairly good mix on the West side of the West Lot, at 
least this year.  Lots of mature fans with their fancy setups, giving the 
younger ones (like me) something to shoot for.  A few football player 
alums mixed in, and there's a fun environment.  It'd be nice if there 
weren't so many cars just parked there, though.  If a quarter of those 
cars tailgated, it'd be a much more vibrant scene.

Go 'Cats,

Jonathan

From rstetson at capps-assoc.com  Fri Feb 10 10:56:19 2006
From: rstetson at capps-assoc.com (Roy Lamberton)
Date: Fri Feb 10 12:58:28 2006
Subject: [NU Sports] NU Sports News Digest 2/10
Message-ID: <001101c62e62$e9f24800$6500a8c0@DAVIDXP>

www.PurpleWildcats.com
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Hawkeyes get back at the Lady Court Cats, some advance info on the Court Cat's
next opponent, Baseball, Softball and Lacrosse get started this weekend, 

               All the News that Fits We Link
                  Your Index to News about
              Northwestern University Athletics

BASKETBALL

     Men
     'Cats are postseason dreaming
 
http://chicagosports.chicagotribune.com/sports/college/cs-060209nu,1,3399754.sto
ry?coll=cs-college-headlines 
     + Down the stretch
 
http://chicagosports.chicagotribune.com/sports/college/cs-060209nuchart,1,529476
6.story?coll=cs-college-headlines 
     + Cats take break from Big Ten with non-conference contest against IPFW
 
http://www.dailynorthwestern.com/vnews/display.v/ART/2006/02/10/43ec4cabd0410 
     + Carmody gives shout out to Northwestern
      http://www.dailysouthtown.com/southtown/dssports/pro/092sd1.htm 

     If you want to see Seacat's 3 and the end of game....
     DITV - Iowa vs. Northwestern Men's Basketball Highlights
 
http://www.dailyiowan.com/news/2006/02/10/Sports/Ditv-Iowa.Vs.Northwestern.Mens.
Basketball.Highlights-1608160.shtml 

     Next Up is Indiana Purdue Fort Wayne [IPFW]
     The Mastodons [nobody's going to complain about that mascot] have been on
the road for a while...
     'Dons back home again in Indiana
      http://www.fortwayne.com/mld/newssentinel/13839249.htm 

     Then Illinois
     Illini still want to see more of Augustine
      http://www.suntimes.com/output/campus/cst-spt-ill10.html 

     Other Big 10
     Coaches get challenges if NCAA approves plan
      http://www.suntimes.com/output/campus/cst-spt-replay10.html 

     Buckeyes now a traveling team
      http://www.suntimes.com/output/campus/cst-spt-osu10.html 

     Women
     Wildcats Fall to Hawkeyes, 76-61
      http://nusports.collegesports.com/sports/w-baskbl/recaps/020906aac.html 
     + Hawkeyes Defeat Northwestern
 
http://hawkeyesports.collegesports.com/sports/w-baskbl/recaps/020906aac.html 
     + Hawkeyes' late run foils Cats
 
http://www.dailynorthwestern.com/vnews/display.v/ART/2006/02/10/43ec4ddf9531e 
     + Experience always nice, but youth serves Iowa
 
http://desmoinesregister.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20060210/SPORTS02070102/
602100374/1003/SPORTS 
     + Not purr-fect, but lady Hawks rap Cats
 
http://www.dailyiowan.com/news/2006/02/10/Sports/Not-PurrFect.But.Lady.Hawks.Rap
.Cats-1607965.shtml 
     + Taking care of business
 
http://www.hawkcentral.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20060210/HAWKS0201/6021003
21/1080 

FOOTBALL

     NCAA adds coaches' challenges
      http://www.ajc.com/sports/content/sports/stories/0210replay.html 
     [Thanks JH]

RECRUITING

     This is how tight the recruiting rules are - an alum can't say hello to HS
players at a playoff game...
     Mississippi reports four secondary NCAA violations
 
http://www.usatoday.com/sports/college/football/sec/2006-02-09-ole-miss-violatio
ns_x.htm?POE=SPOISVA 

BASEBALL

     Kicks off today against South Florida in Tampa at 6 PM
     Wildcats Open Season Feb. 10 at South Florida
      http://nusports.collegesports.com/sports/m-basebl/spec-rel/020306aab.html 
     + Springing ahead: in dead of winter, baseball players eager to take field
 
http://www.dailynorthwestern.com/vnews/display.v/ART/2006/02/10/43ec4c079b138 

LACROSSE

     Life After
 
http://www.dailynorthwestern.com/vnews/display.v/ART/2006/02/10/43ec347e66a5c 
     + Leader by example
 
http://www.dailynorthwestern.com/vnews/display.v/ART/2006/02/10/43ec35b2aa8e0 
     + Enough with the flip-flops, just give NU props for its championship run 
 
http://www.dailynorthwestern.com/vnews/display.v/ART/2006/02/10/43ec43a1217a3 
     + Q & A: Kristen Boege
 
http://www.dailynorthwestern.com/vnews/display.v/ART/2006/02/10/43ec38804c9ea 

     Terps women open 2006 vs. Northwestern
 
http://www.insidelacrosse.com/page.cfm?pagerid=2&news=fdetail&storyid=111161 

SOFTBALL

     First game of 2006 in the Kajikawa Classic - Tempe
     Let's Get It Started: Wildcats Ready For 2006
      http://nusports.collegesports.com/sports/w-softbl/spec-rel/020706aaa.html 
     + Swinging for fences: Cats have high hopes
 
http://www.dailynorthwestern.com/vnews/display.v/ART/2006/02/10/43ec4d382522b 

WRESTLING

     NU hosts Spartans before going to Iowa to face one of nation's most storied
programs 
 
http://www.dailynorthwestern.com/vnews/display.v/ART/2006/02/10/43ec4e4918834 
     + Hawkeyes mats staring at rare skid in Big Ten
 
http://desmoinesregister.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20060210/SPORTS020503/60
2100382/1022/SPORTS12 

Miscellany

     NCAA committee approves press box replay
 
http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/rssclick/2006/football/ncaa/02/09/bc.fbc.instan
treplay.ap/index.html?section=si_ncaaf 

Alumni

     Luke Donald 
      http://www.pgatour.com/players/scorecard/291587/r005/2006 
     AT&T Pebble Beach National Pro-Am
      http://www.pgatour.com/tournaments/r005 
     Donald matches Spyglass record to take lead at Pebble Beach
      http://www.pgatour.com/story/9220726 
     + LISTEN: Donald on his round
 
http://video.cgi.cbs.com/video/video.pl?url=/pgatour/audio/2006/0209_donald.wmv 
     + Donald cards longest birdie-eagle streak of 2006
      http://www.pgatour.com/story/9220779 
     + Donald 62 equals Spyglass record
 
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/main.jhtml;jsessionid=NOM1FIZB3FGT5QFIQMFCFGGAV
CBQYIV0?xml=/sport/2006/02/10/sgluke10.xml&sSheet=/sport/2006/02/10/ixgolf.html 
     + Donald secures Pro-Am lead 
      http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/golf/4699440.stm 

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From prplehaze at insightbb.com  Fri Feb 10 15:51:36 2006
From: prplehaze at insightbb.com (prplehaze@insightbb.com)
Date: Fri Feb 10 16:08:16 2006
Subject: [NU Sports] Potential Football Rules Changes
Message-ID: <021020062151.7319.43ED0AE80002016C00001C97219792474103010CD20D0D9B0809079C0207BF0A960E080A049F9D9F@insightbb.com>

At least ESPN has decided to push Monday night football ahead to an 8:30 start,
marking one small item of progress.  Particularly strange in that it came from
Bristol.
--
Mark Ament
prplehaze@insightbb.com


> Jonathan's points are all well taken.  
>  
> Another reason why 15 minutes is wholly insufficient and inappropriate for  
> halftime:  It cuts down on the time that fans have to use rest rooms, buy  food 
> and beverages, etc.  The trend towards favoring TV over fans in the  seats is 
> getting really ugly--especially in the NFL, with late-season night  games in 
> the always-balmy Northeast and Midwest, 4 p.m. E.S.T. starts on Sundays  for 
> far too many games that should otherwise be played at 1 p.m. (or 12 p.m. in  
> C.S.T.), long commercial breaks, etc.  And, of course, my favorite sport,  
> baseball, has built a strong future fan base with those wonderful World Series  
> night games that stretch into next week.  Not to mention our very own NCAA  with 
> its night games on Tuesdays, Wednesdays, Thursdays and Fridays--which fits  
> nicely into academic schedules and provides more than ample recovery time for  
> the athletes between games.   Yes, the "idiot box" rules the Sports  Kingdom, 
> and if anyone doubts this premise, just tune in NBC's coverage of the  
> Olympics.  You just might see some competition amidst all of the commercial  
> clutter.  
>  
> Paul Levinson
> _______________________________________________
> nwu-sports site list
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From WildElk2 at aol.com  Sun Feb 12 14:52:23 2006
From: WildElk2 at aol.com (WildElk2@aol.com)
Date: Sun Feb 12 16:16:11 2006
Subject: [NU Sports] Thoughts on our basketball team
Message-ID: <ac.410b30e.3120fa07@aol.com>

   After 15 inched of snow and alot of shoveling, it's a good time to post; 
something I've been doing very little of lately; too damn busy.  That's the 
good spin on heavy snowfalls. Everything was cancelled today, so my thoughts have 
turned to our basketball team.
   We're 12-10, 4-6 in the conference.  A look at our schdule yields that a 
winning season is very possible.  The win over Seton Hall looks much better, as 
well as a chance to redeem ourselves at Penn St. (I'll be there!).
   I'm sure we all thought that Mike Thompson was going to be our premier 
rebounder.  That's the one thing we're missing; someone to clean the glass. 
Carmody made adjustments by tightening our defense; only yielding 48 and 49 points 
in our last two games.  I also liked the balance of our effort yesterday, with 
a handful of players scoring more than 8 points.  The only casualty was VV 
missing double figures; a rarity in thge last 2 seasons.
   My prediction:  we'll finish 15-13, 7-9 in the conference.  Wins at Penn 
St., and at home vs. Ohio St. and Minnesota.  We'll make the NIT's, and Paul 
L., you'll see our beloved Cats in New York for the NIT finals.  I like their 
defense, and I believe that our balance will push us over .500 this season.

               GO CATS!!!!                Eric
From NEONRye at aol.com  Sun Feb 12 17:16:52 2006
From: NEONRye at aol.com (NEONRye@aol.com)
Date: Sun Feb 12 17:47:19 2006
Subject: [NU Sports] Thoughts on our basketball team
Message-ID: <2d3.2c028eb.31211be4@aol.com>

Eric,
Great job.  From your lips.......:-)
 
Paul L.
From WildElk2 at aol.com  Sun Feb 12 21:16:30 2006
From: WildElk2 at aol.com (WildElk2@aol.com)
Date: Sun Feb 12 21:20:31 2006
Subject: [NU Sports] Rule changes/shotening games
Message-ID: <2ea.14ac7d6.3121540e@aol.com>

   Keep it simple Dept.  Keep all rules the same; make the 4 quarters 14 
minutes each.  Why not? Pro basketball has 48 minutes of playing time, college 
ball has 40.
   Besides, this would somewhat make up for the 12th game all Div. 1 teams 
will be playing.   And don't feed me the line that it would cost reserves 
playing time. All Div. 1 teams have loaded up on cupcakes as well as having 1 more 
gane to play each season. Playing time won't be an issue.
  This will shorten games, and keep our college ball uniquely different than 
the NFL.

             GO CATS!!!            Eric
From thehaze at earthlink.net  Sun Feb 12 21:17:09 2006
From: thehaze at earthlink.net (Jim Bendat)
Date: Sun Feb 12 21:21:12 2006
Subject: [NU Sports] Northwestern Olympian
Message-ID: <43EFFA35.5030109@earthlink.net>

I didn't even know about this until today when my daughter told me that 
one of her sorority sisters was competing in Torino.  NU sophomore 
Maggie Crowley competed in the women's 3000 meter speedskating event 
today, finishing 22nd.  She's been taking the winter quarter off, 
obviously, but will return to NU in the spring.  Way to go, Maggie!

Jim Bendat

From jonathanwhodges at gmail.com  Mon Feb 13 12:31:51 2006
From: jonathanwhodges at gmail.com (Jonathan Hodges)
Date: Mon Feb 13 12:33:01 2006
Subject: [NU Sports] Thoughts on our basketball team
In-Reply-To: <ac.410b30e.3120fa07@aol.com>
References: <ac.410b30e.3120fa07@aol.com>
Message-ID: <fcb3ee270602131031n1fe64d91yb4fd870507f1388e@mail.gmail.com>

As you say, right now NU is 12-10, 4-6 Big Ten and the 'Cats have 6
regular season games remaining plus the Big Ten tournament (at least
one game).  Out of the remaining regular season games, only 2 games
would not be an upset if NU won - at Penn State and vs Minnesota,
although NU have already lost to PSU (plus they beat Illinois in
Champaign) and Minnesota has knocked off a couple of big teams (MSU at
home in a blowout) recently after their horrible start to conference
play.  These aren't gimmes but should be wins if NU plays like they
did vs. Iowa and IPFW.  2 more wins would guarantee the 'Cats a .500
record going into the Big Ten tournament.

The following games will be extremely difficult to win: at Illinois
and at Ohio State.  Both of these teams will be in the NCAA tourney
and have a legitimate shot at winning the conference. Winning at
either place is tough for any team, making these games all the more
difficult.

Finally there are home showdowns against Wisconsin and Ohio State. 
Again, I think beating Ohio State will be tough even at home - and the
'Cats don't have a W against OSU on the court in some time. 
Meanwhile, Wisconsin has shown that it is vulnerable and if NU can
pick up an upset win over one of these teams, they can go into the Big
Ten tourney with some small cushion over .500.

The only shot I see NU has at an NIT berth is to beat PSU on the road
and Minnesota at home and to pick up a home win over either OSU or
(most likely) Wisconsin.  The record at that point would be 15-13 (7-9
conference).  They will probably be seeded around 7 or 8 for the Big
Ten tournament (making them the higher seed for the first round game
against either seed 10 or 9), and they must pick up at least one win
in the tournament (making them 1-1 in the tourney) in order to stay
above .500 (16-14 final record).  Given the respectable (top 100) RPI
thanks to the good showing by the conference this season and the fact
that the NIT is now controlled by the NCAA and has a mini selection
committee, the 'Cats should be able to get into the post season.

Of course, NU must not collapse down the stretch and has to take
advantage of its remaining home schedule, as Welsh-Ryan can be a
considerable advantage as shown in recent years.

Go 'Cats!
Jonathan


On 2/12/06, WildElk2@aol.com <WildElk2@aol.com> wrote:
>    After 15 inched of snow and alot of shoveling, it's a good time to post;
> something I've been doing very little of lately; too damn busy.  That's the
> good spin on heavy snowfalls. Everything was cancelled today, so my thoughts have
> turned to our basketball team.
>    We're 12-10, 4-6 in the conference.  A look at our schdule yields that a
> winning season is very possible.  The win over Seton Hall looks much better, as
> well as a chance to redeem ourselves at Penn St. (I'll be there!).
>    I'm sure we all thought that Mike Thompson was going to be our premier
> rebounder.  That's the one thing we're missing; someone to clean the glass.
> Carmody made adjustments by tightening our defense; only yielding 48 and 49 points
> in our last two games.  I also liked the balance of our effort yesterday, with
> a handful of players scoring more than 8 points.  The only casualty was VV
> missing double figures; a rarity in thge last 2 seasons.
>    My prediction:  we'll finish 15-13, 7-9 in the conference.  Wins at Penn
> St., and at home vs. Ohio St. and Minnesota.  We'll make the NIT's, and Paul
> L., you'll see our beloved Cats in New York for the NIT finals.  I like their
> defense, and I believe that our balance will push us over .500 this season.
>
>                GO CATS!!!!                Eric
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From MHRJGScott at aol.com  Mon Feb 13 12:23:39 2006
From: MHRJGScott at aol.com (MHRJGScott@aol.com)
Date: Mon Feb 13 12:36:24 2006
Subject: [NU Sports] baseball
Message-ID: <280.5902c7c.312228ab@aol.com>

Cold and windy at USF yesterday as the CATS dropped the rubber game of the  
series 9-8, Antonio Mule hit the longest HR I have ever seen in a college game, 
 and I used to live next to the Tulane stadium and have seen lots of  games.
From rstetson at capps-assoc.com  Mon Feb 13 11:23:04 2006
From: rstetson at capps-assoc.com (Roy Lamberton)
Date: Mon Feb 13 12:52:13 2006
Subject: [NU Sports] NU Sports News Digest 2/13
Message-ID: <000f01c630c2$261c85f0$6500a8c0@DAVIDXP>

www.PurpleWildcats.com
for Purple Reign
& the NU Sports List

Weekend Wrapup Edition

Court Cats win a balanced game, Ladies drop one to Indiana, Winning start for
both Baseball and Softball,

      All the News that Fits We Link
        Your Index to News about
     Northwestern University Athletics

BASKETBALL

     Men
     Balanced Attack Propels Wildcats Past IPFW
      http://nusports.collegesports.com/sports/m-baskbl/recaps/021106aaa.html
     + Wildcats cruise into key stretch
 
http://chicagosports.chicagotribune.com/sports/college/northwestern/cs-060212020
7feb12,1,949732.story?coll=cs-college-nwestern-print
     + Record 8 Cats can threes in tuneup for Illini
      http://www.suntimes.com/output/campus/cst-spt-nu12.html
     + IPF-Who?: Cats blast 'Dons
 
http://www.dailynorthwestern.com/vnews/display.v/ART/2006/02/13/43f01e37eaca9
     + Vukusic gets rest in Northwestern's easy victory
      http://www.dailyherald.com/sports/northwestern.asp?id=153757

     After 2 close calls, 05-06 NU's best shot at NIT
 
http://www.dailynorthwestern.com/vnews/display.v/ART/2006/02/13/43f01ff4b943a

     Indiana Purdue Fort Wayne [IPFW]
     Fife returns to Welsh- Ryan as a head coach
 
http://www.dailynorthwestern.com/vnews/display.v/ART/2006/02/13/43f01f62a5f37
     + IPFW shot down by Northwestern
      http://www.fortwayne.com/mld/journalgazette/sports/colleges/13855036.htm
     + 'Dons Can't Sustain Quick Start
      http://www.ipfw.edu/athletics/MBasketball/Press/05-06/Feb11.htm
     + Northwestern overpowers IPFW with hot shooting
      http://www.fortwayne.com/mld/newssentinel/13860616.htm

     Then Illinois
     No. 10 Illinois Tripped Up By No. 19 Ohio State 69-53
 
http://fightingillini.collegesports.com/sports/m-baskbl/recaps/021206aab.html
     + No. 19 Ohio St. 69, No. 10 Illinois 53
      http://www.suntimes.com/output/campus/ill12.html
     + No. 19 Ohio State 69, No. 10 Illinois 53
      http://www.dailysouthtown.com/southtown/dssports/pro/131sd3.htm
     + Illinois gets clipped in Columbus
      http://www.nwherald.com/SportsSection/college/287748620442349.php
     + Answering upset loss proves difficult for Illini
      http://www.nwherald.com/SportsSection/nickp/286574945597941.php
     + Buckeyes have their way with No. 10 Illini
 
http://www.indystar.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20060213/SPORTS/602130408
     + Deja Vu: Ohio State Defeats Illinois
      http://chicago.comcastsportsnet.com/view_content.asp?ID=24882

     Other Big 10
     Wacky Big Ten keeps title hopes alive
      http://www.suntimes.com/output/campus/cst-spt-herb13.html

     IU's Davis: I didn't quit
 
http://www.indystar.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20060212/SPORTS0601/602120480
/-1/ARCHIVE
     + Marsh says IU defense must improve
 
http://www.indystar.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20060212/SPORTS0601/602120479
/-1/ARCHIVE
     + Hoosiers deliver sickly effort
 
http://www.indystar.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20060212/SPORTS0601/602120478
/-1/ARCHIVE

     Gophers knock off No. 12 Spartans
 
http://www.indystar.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20060212/SPORTS/602120472/-1/
ARCHIVE

     Women
     'Cats Fall to Hoosiers, 60-46
      http://nusports.collegesports.com/sports/w-baskbl/recaps/021206aaa.html
     + NU loses early lead in defeat
 
http://www.dailynorthwestern.com/vnews/display.v/ART/2006/02/13/43f01f981ab5c

     From the other side
     Seniors have their day with dominant win over Wildcats
      http://www.idsnews.com/news/story.php?id=33934&adid=sports
     + Valentin, Hoosiers rout Northwestern
 
http://www.indystar.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20060213/SPORTS/602130409

FOOTBALL

     Terps' offensive coordinator Taafee resigns
 
http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/rssclick/2006/football/ncaa/02/12/bc.fbc.maryla
nd.taaffe.ap/index.html?section=si_ncaaf
     Clarett indicted on robbery, weapon charges
 
http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/rssclick/2006/football/ncaa/02/10/bc.fbc.claret
tindicted.ap/index.html?section=si_ncaaf

RECRUITING

     Softball - another pitcher for the Cats
     Helias retires Delaney's No. 6 softball jersey
      http://www.newstribune.com/articles/2006/02/12/sports/51delaney.txt

     NU's TE recruit also lighting up the court
     Brendan Mitchell: Boys hoops falls
      http://www.wra.net/newsevents/release.cfm?article=891
     + Boys basketball team follows win with loss
      http://www.wra.net/newsevents/release.cfm?article=880

     Temking: Ethics in sports: An oxymoron
 
http://www.chicagotribune.com/sports/cs-0602120042feb12,0,1435609.column?coll=cs
-highschool-headlines

BASEBALL

     Baseball goes 2-1 on the weekend
     Wildcats Drop Series Finale to South Florida, 9-8
     http://nusports.collegesports.com/sports/m-basebl/recaps/021206aaa.html
     Wildcats Drop Season Opener to South Florida, 5-2
     http://nusports.collegesports.com/sports/m-basebl/recaps/021106aae.html>
     HurlersCombine for 13-Inning Shutout; Wildcats Defeat South Florida 2-0
      http://nusports.collegesports.com/sports/m-basebl/recaps/021106aae.html>

LACROSSE

     Cats snowed out in Maryland...20+ inches in area around College Park
     Northwestern at Maryland Postponed
      http://nusports.collegesports.com/sports/w-lacros/spec-rel/021206aaa.html 

SOFTBALL

     Big Weekend of  Kajikawa Classic Tournament Action - Cats finish 3-2
     No. 16 Wildcats Peel Orange, 7-2
      http://nusports.collegesports.com/sports/w-softbl/recaps/021206aac.html 
     No. 4 Texas Blanks Northwestern, 3-0
      http://nusports.collegesports.com/sports/w-softbl/recaps/021206aab.html 
     No. 16 Northwestern Whips No. 20 Fresno State, 5-0
      http://nusports.collegesports.com/sports/w-softbl/recaps/021106aaa.html 
     No. 5 Arizona Defeats Northwestern, 8-0 (6)
      http://nusports.collegesports.com/sports/w-softbl/recaps/021006aad.html 
     No. 16 Northwestern Opens With Win Over No. 15 Oregon State, 1-0
      http://nusports.collegesports.com/sports/w-softbl/recaps/021006aab.html 

WRESTLING

     No. 9 Iowa Edges 13th-Ranked Northwestern, 20-16
      http://nusports.collegesports.com/sports/m-wrestl/recaps/021206aab.html 
     + Hawkeyes Handle Northwestern
 
http://hawkeyesports.collegesports.com/sports/m-wrestl/recaps/021206aaa.html 
     + Iowa gets even on mat, beats Wildcats
 
http://desmoinesregister.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20060213/SPORTS020503/60
2130343/1091/SPORTS02 

Miscellany

     Every breath you take - For local athletes coping with asthma, winning
sometimes has to come second to breathing
 
http://nwitimes.com/articles/2006/02/13/sports/the_prep_zone_indiana/1e02db09d50
362d28625710e000ccffd.txt 
     A couple of big games a W-R Saturday night
     Surreal scene: Scalping, SRO
 
http://www.chicagotribune.com/sports/highschool/chi-0602120237feb12,1,4882950.st
ory?coll=chi-sportshigh-hed 

Alumni

     Luke Donald 
      http://www.pgatour.com/players/scorecard/291587/r005/2006 
     Tied for 7th at the AT&T Pebble Beach National Pro-Am
     Live Scorecard
      http://www.pgatour.com/players/scorecard/291587/r005/2006 
     See Luke [video] explain his pre-shot routine.
      http://www.titleist.com/mediacenter/routineplayer.asp?id=9&size=lg&adtype=


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From loomis3 at sbcglobal.net  Mon Feb 13 08:17:12 2006
From: loomis3 at sbcglobal.net (Frank F. Loomis III)
Date: Mon Feb 13 17:18:22 2006
Subject: [NU Sports] Alan, You Do Us Proud!
Message-ID: <20060213141712.47788.qmail@web81709.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

How about that!  Last night, our eminent, Alan Abrahamson, appeared on NBC News, reporting on the Olympics, from Italy. He's quite an expert and most impressive.  Add to that, he's handsome!
   
  This is the second time I've seen him on national news in the last two months or so.
   
  Wow!
   
  Frank Loomis
From johnl at mac.com  Mon Feb 13 23:32:53 2006
From: johnl at mac.com (John Labbe)
Date: Mon Feb 13 23:33:15 2006
Subject: [NU Sports] Northwestern Olympian
In-Reply-To: <43EFFA35.5030109@earthlink.net>
References: <43EFFA35.5030109@earthlink.net>
Message-ID: <4e8c3348c20e9df77f7cf8b7222555ed@mac.com>

Although it's obviously not an NU sports event, Mark Murphy did have a 
little blip about this in one of his recent "Murphy's Mark" columns.  
It doesn't really provide much more info than you've already provided, 
however.  Quite impressive.

http://nusports.collegesports.com/genrel/010306aae.html


On Feb 12, 2006, at 9:17 PM, Jim Bendat wrote:

> I didn't even know about this until today when my daughter told me 
> that one of her sorority sisters was competing in Torino.  NU 
> sophomore Maggie Crowley competed in the women's 3000 meter 
> speedskating event today, finishing 22nd.  She's been taking the 
> winter quarter off, obviously, but will return to NU in the spring.  
> Way to go, Maggie!
>
> Jim Bendat
>
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From Hakirsch at aol.com  Mon Feb 13 23:59:18 2006
From: Hakirsch at aol.com (Hakirsch@aol.com)
Date: Tue Feb 14 00:43:26 2006
Subject: [NU Sports] Northwestern Olympian
Message-ID: <227.62b794a.3122cbb6@aol.com>

In a message dated 2/13/2006 9:34:42 PM Pacific Standard Time, johnl@mac.com 
writes:

> Although it's obviously not an NU sports event, Mark Murphy did have a 
> little blip about this in one of his recent "Murphy's Mark" columns.  
> It doesn't really provide much more info than you've already provided, 
> however.  Quite impressive.
> 
> http://nusports.collegesports.com/genrel/010306aae.html
> 
> 

Does anyone know if we have had any Olympians since the Dean brothers 1976 
Handball participation in Montreal ?

Harry
From rstetson at capps-assoc.com  Tue Feb 14 07:00:08 2006
From: rstetson at capps-assoc.com (Roy Lamberton)
Date: Tue Feb 14 07:00:40 2006
Subject: [NU Sports] Northwestern Olympian
In-Reply-To: <227.62b794a.3122cbb6@aol.com>
Message-ID: <000d01c63166$955a0dd0$6500a8c0@DAVIDXP>

We had a speed skater enrolled at one point a few years back.

rsl

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> 
> 
> In a message dated 2/13/2006 9:34:42 PM Pacific Standard 
> Time, johnl@mac.com 
> writes:
> 
> > Although it's obviously not an NU sports event, Mark Murphy 
> did have a
> > little blip about this in one of his recent "Murphy's Mark" 
> columns.  
> > It doesn't really provide much more info than you've 
> already provided, 
> > however.  Quite impressive.
> > 
> > http://nusports.collegesports.com/genrel/010306aae.html
> > 
> > 
> 
> Does anyone know if we have had any Olympians since the Dean 
> brothers 1976 
> Handball participation in Montreal ?
> 
> Harry
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From szeller at comcast.net  Tue Feb 14 09:44:52 2006
From: szeller at comcast.net (szeller@comcast.net)
Date: Tue Feb 14 10:01:15 2006
Subject: [NU Sports] Northwestern Olympian
Message-ID: <021420061544.28600.43F1FAF40003D0CB00006FB822069997359D0A04040A969C@comcast.net>

Wasn't an NU swimmer in the last Olympics?
I know Dr. Debi Thomas, the medal-winning figure skater, went to NU Med School but that was after her Olympics.
I had a classmate at NUMS, Gordon Downie, who had won a bronze medal in swimming at the Olympics (also before med school). He was the star of our champion med school intermurals innertube water team!

Scott Zeller MD
Med '86

-------------- Original message -------------- 
From: Hakirsch@aol.com 

> In a message dated 2/13/2006 9:34:42 PM Pacific Standard Time, johnl@mac.com 
> writes: 
> 
> > Although it's obviously not an NU sports event, Mark Murphy did have a 
> > little blip about this in one of his recent "Murphy's Mark" columns. 
> > It doesn't really provide much more info than you've already provided, 
> > however. Quite impressive. 
> > 
> > http://nusports.collegesports.com/genrel/010306aae.html 
> > 
> > 
> 
> Does anyone know if we have had any Olympians since the Dean brothers 1976 
> Handball participation in Montreal ? 
> 
> Harry 
> _______________________________________________ 
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From rstetson at capps-assoc.com  Tue Feb 14 11:18:19 2006
From: rstetson at capps-assoc.com (Roy Lamberton)
Date: Tue Feb 14 11:41:55 2006
Subject: [NU Sports] Northwestern Olympian
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Message-ID: <002301c6318a$a6986190$6500a8c0@DAVIDXP>

http://nusports.collegesports.com/sports/m-swim/mtt/alexandrov_mike00.html
Mike Alexandrov swam in the Athen's olympics, but as a member of the Bulgaria
National team.

The link above will get you all of NU Sports' stories on him in Athens

rsl

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> Sent: Tuesday, February 14, 2006 10:45 AM
> To: Hakirsch@aol.com; johnl@mac.com; nwu-sports@tssi.com
> Subject: Re: [NU Sports] Northwestern Olympian
> 
> 
> Wasn't an NU swimmer in the last Olympics?
> I know Dr. Debi Thomas, the medal-winning figure skater, went 
> to NU Med School but that was after her Olympics. I had a 
> classmate at NUMS, Gordon Downie, who had won a bronze medal 
> in swimming at the Olympics (also before med school). He was 
> the star of our champion med school intermurals innertube water team!
> 
> Scott Zeller MD
> Med '86
> 
> -------------- Original message -------------- 
> From: Hakirsch@aol.com 
> 
> > In a message dated 2/13/2006 9:34:42 PM Pacific Standard Time, 
> > johnl@mac.com
> > writes: 
> > 
> > > Although it's obviously not an NU sports event, Mark 
> Murphy did have 
> > > a
> > > little blip about this in one of his recent "Murphy's 
> Mark" columns. 
> > > It doesn't really provide much more info than you've 
> already provided, 
> > > however. Quite impressive. 
> > > 
> > > http://nusports.collegesports.com/genrel/010306aae.html
> > > 
> > > 
> > 
> > Does anyone know if we have had any Olympians since the 
> Dean brothers 
> > 1976
> > Handball participation in Montreal ? 
> > 
> > Harry
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From rstetson at capps-assoc.com  Tue Feb 14 09:57:01 2006
From: rstetson at capps-assoc.com (Roy Lamberton)
Date: Tue Feb 14 15:33:25 2006
Subject: [NU Sports] NU Sports News Digest 2/14
Message-ID: <001c01c6317f$4b3acc30$6500a8c0@DAVIDXP>

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Valentine's Day Edition

                    All the News that Fits We Link
                      Your Index to News about
                   Northwestern University Athletics

LACROSSE

     Top-Ranked Wildcats Down No. 9 Maryland in Season Opener, 13-8
      http://nusports.collegesports.com/sports/w-lacros/recaps/021306aab.html 
     + Still Perfect: NU wins Dubut
 
http://www.dailynorthwestern.com/vnews/display.v/ART/2006/02/14/43f183f9b2d15 
     + And the Streak Goes On
      http://northwestern.scout.com/2/499312.html 
     + Northwestern Plows Maryland
 
http://laxmagazine.collegesports.com/sports/w-lacros/spec-rel/021306aah.html 
     + A 13-8 Wildcat win
 
http://www.insidelacrosse.com/page.cfm?pagerid=2&news=fdetail&storyid=111435 

     From the Other Side
     Northwestern tops UM women
 
http://www.baltimoresun.com/sports/college/lacrosse/bal-sp.terpswlax14feb14,0,57
35359.story?coll=bal-sports-more 
     + Top-ranked Wildcats too much for Terps
 
http://www.insidelacrosse.com/page.cfm?pagerid=2&news=fdetail&storyid=111452 
     + No. 1 Northwestern Holds Off Maryland, 13-8
      http://umterps.collegesports.com/sports/w-lacros/recaps/021306aab.html 
     + Women lose opener to Wildcats
 
http://www.diamondbackonline.com/vnews/display.v/ART/2006/02/14/43f186dcc0e28 
     + Wildcats top Terps in women's lacrosse
 
http://www.baltimoresun.com/sports/college/lacrosse/bal-lax13,0,1018893.story?co
ll=bal-college-lacrosse 

BASKETBALL

     Men
     Wildcats cruise into key stretch
 
http://chicagosports.chicagotribune.com/sports/college/northwestern/cs-060212020
7feb12,1,949732.story?coll=cs-college-nwestern-print 
     + Vukusic gets rest in Northwestern's easy victory
      http://www.dailyherald.com/sports/northwestern.asp?id=153757 

     Northwestern Names Hilton Garden Inn Athletes of the Week
      http://nusports.collegesports.com/genrel/021306aaa.html 
     Random Thoughts: While in the Snow
      http://northwestern.scout.com/2/499175.html 

     Early College Basketball TV
     Young Einhorn was pioneer in coverage of college hoops 
 
http://www.suntimes.com/cgi-bin/print.cgi?getReferrer=http://www.suntimes.com/ou
tput/rapoport/cst-spt-rapside12.html 

     Next up - Wed at  Illinois
     Illinois Falls to No. 14 in Latest AP Poll
      http://chicago.comcastsportsnet.com/view_content.asp?ID=24951 
     + Fifteen questions with Brian Randle
 
http://www.dailyillini.com/news/2006/02/14/Sports/Fifteen.Questions.With.Brian.R
andle-1612049.shtml 
     + Weber sympathizes with situations of Davis, Snyder
      http://www.sj-r.com/sections/sports/stories/78788.asp 
     + Ohio State remains arc enemy to Illinois
      http://www.pjstar.com/stories/021306/ILL_B8VIOLF8.W02.shtml 
     $ From here, Illini can sink or swim
 
http://www.news-gazette.com/sportsfacts/mens_basketball/2006/02/13/from_here_ill
ini_can_sink_or_swim/ 
     $ TATE: Illinois endures early knockout
 
http://www.news-gazette.com/sportsfacts/mens_basketball/2006/02/13/illinois_endu
res_early_knockout/ 
     $ Brown doesn't get on a role
 
http://www.news-gazette.com/sportsfacts/mens_basketball/2006/02/13/brown_doesnt_
get_on_a_role/ 
     + Buckeyes bomb Illini
 
http://www.stltoday.com/stltoday/sports/stories.nsf/illini/story/5AD8528C43B8A1E
E86257114001E5434?OpenDocument 
     + Weber keeps Illini aloft
 
http://www.stltoday.com/stltoday/sports/stories.nsf/illini/story/3DF3E964695DBB8
F8625710F001E947F?OpenDocument 

     Saturday its at dOSU
     Butler Named Big Ten Player of the Week
 
http://ohiostatebuckeyes.collegesports.com/sports/m-baskbl/spec-rel/021306aaa.ht
ml 
     + Weekend Basketball Photo Gallery
      http://ohiostate.scout.com/2/499258.html 
     + Journal: Buckeyes pound Illini
 
http://www.mansfieldnewsjournal.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20060213/SPORTS/6
02130331/1006 
     + Rock'em Sock'em Buckeyes
 
http://www.zwire.com/site/news.cfm?newsid=16115456&BRD=1699&PAG=461&dept_id=4637
0&rfi=6 
     + Buckeyes' Butler keeps getting better
 
http://www.daytondailynews.com/sports/content/sports/osu/daily/0213osunotes.html

     + Merrill gives it a shot in OSU victory
 
http://www.cleveland.com/osubasketball/plaindealer/index.ssf?/base/sports/113982
321299290.xml&coll=2 

     Other Big 10
     Men's Basketball Weekly Release - Feb. 13
      http://bigten.collegesports.com/sports/m-baskbl/spec-rel/021306aab.html 

     Hoosiers' Davis critical of all the critics
      http://www.suntimes.com/output/campus/cst-spt-big14.html 

     Women
     NU Goes 1-2 in Frantic week
      http://www.wnur.org/sports/ 

FOOTBALL

     College football panel likes challenge system 
      http://rssfeeds.usatoday.com/UsatodaycomCollegeFootball-TopStories?m=517 

RECRUITING

     $ NU Recruit Update - 2/14
      http://northwestern.scout.com/2/499490.html 

     Sean Lees Focus 2007 - WR/DB Sean Lees
      http://story.scout.com/a.z?s=179&p=2&c=499483 
     + Shines at San Antonio Combine
 
http://scout.scout.com/a.z?s=179&p=9&c=2&cid=499485&nid=2415421&fhn=1&refid=4742


BASEBALL

     A little late but...
     Northwestern Opens 2006 Big Ten Baseball Season This Weekend

FENCING

     Weak field no match for Cats in NU Duels
 
http://www.dailynorthwestern.com/vnews/display.v/ART/2006/02/14/43f186659c75e 

SOFTBALL

     No. 16 Wildcats Peel Orange, 7-2
      http://nusports.collegesports.com/sports/w-softbl/recaps/021206aac.html 

TENNIS

     Women get sweep, Men grab 1 of 2
 
http://www.dailynorthwestern.com/vnews/display.v/ART/2006/02/14/43f188246aeb9 

WRESTLING

     Cats split weekend, now 4th in Big Ten
 
http://www.dailynorthwestern.com/vnews/display.v/ART/2006/02/14/43f187a07eb9e 

Miscellany

     Prince: When Is It Enough?
      http://illinois.scout.com/2/499294.html 

Alumni

     Luke Donald scheduled for the Nissan Open
      http://www.pgatour.com/tournaments/r007 
     Riviera return
      http://www.pgatour.com/story/9230691 
     Then the next week Accenture Match Play Championship 
      http://www.worldgolfchampionships.com/ 
     McDowell gets Tiger in Match Play 
      http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/golf/4710164.stm 

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From cherron604 at aol.com  Tue Feb 14 15:33:57 2006
From: cherron604 at aol.com (cherron604@aol.com)
Date: Tue Feb 14 15:46:37 2006
Subject: [NU Sports] New OC Concerns
Message-ID: <8C7FFC57F50C2EB-1638-9730@FWM-D34.sysops.aol.com>

Do we have an official word yet on Garrick McGee as the new OC ?  A concern I would have would be the experience factor.
 
When KW came on-board in 99, he had 8 years experience as an OC (88 OC/OL NCA&T, 92-97 OC/OL Miami(O) and 98 OC/QB for Miami).
 
When MD was named in 02, he had 20 years experience as a head coach or Coordinator (80-82 DC Cent Wash, 83 HC Cent Wash, 84-85 OC UMass, 87-91 HC Cent Wash, 92-96 OC Toledo, and 97-00 HC at Northern Iowa).
 
GM has not had any coordinator or HC experience.  Indeed, other than Brown and Colby, the coaching experience (non-GA) on the rest of the staff is disconcertingly light:
 
Cushing - 3 years
Fitz - 4 years
Johns - 5 years
McGee - 9 years
Washington - 5 years
 
Also, I know GM has somewhat followed MD from UNI to NU (with a stop in Toledo).  Can we deduce from this that he will run the dunbar offense ?  Or will he try and put his own stamp on the offense ?
 
Chuck Herron   Tech '85 
From spiritu at northwestern.edu  Tue Feb 14 13:04:57 2006
From: spiritu at northwestern.edu (Jonathan Michael Hawkins)
Date: Tue Feb 14 18:17:29 2006
Subject: [NU Sports] Northwestern Olympian
In-Reply-To: <002301c6318a$a6986190$6500a8c0@DAVIDXP>
References: <002301c6318a$a6986190$6500a8c0@DAVIDXP>
Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.64.0602141301390.9108@localhost>

Former NU student Jamie Schroeder was on the US Olympic Rowing Team in 
Athens.

He transferred from NU to Stanford about midway through his career at NU 
because of the better rowing opportunities (and his increasing talent).

I'm not sure if you count him as an NU guy, but me and my friends sure do. 
In '04 about 20 of us got together at 1am to watch his heats, and 
celebrated his return from Greece when he stopped back into Ev,IL to say 
hello.

Best,

Jonathan

On Tue, 14 Feb 2006, Roy Lamberton wrote:

> http://nusports.collegesports.com/sports/m-swim/mtt/alexandrov_mike00.html
> Mike Alexandrov swam in the Athen's olympics, but as a member of the Bulgaria
> National team.
>
> The link above will get you all of NU Sports' stories on him in Athens
>
> rsl
>
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>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: nwu-sports-bounces@tssi.com
>> [mailto:nwu-sports-bounces@tssi.com] On Behalf Of szeller@comcast.net
>> Sent: Tuesday, February 14, 2006 10:45 AM
>> To: Hakirsch@aol.com; johnl@mac.com; nwu-sports@tssi.com
>> Subject: Re: [NU Sports] Northwestern Olympian
>>
>>
>> Wasn't an NU swimmer in the last Olympics?
>> I know Dr. Debi Thomas, the medal-winning figure skater, went
>> to NU Med School but that was after her Olympics. I had a
>> classmate at NUMS, Gordon Downie, who had won a bronze medal
>> in swimming at the Olympics (also before med school). He was
>> the star of our champion med school intermurals innertube water team!
>>
>> Scott Zeller MD
>> Med '86
>>
>> -------------- Original message --------------
>> From: Hakirsch@aol.com
>>
>>> In a message dated 2/13/2006 9:34:42 PM Pacific Standard Time,
>>> johnl@mac.com
>>> writes:
>>>
>>>> Although it's obviously not an NU sports event, Mark
>> Murphy did have
>>>> a
>>>> little blip about this in one of his recent "Murphy's
>> Mark" columns.
>>>> It doesn't really provide much more info than you've
>> already provided,
>>>> however. Quite impressive.
>>>>
>>>> http://nusports.collegesports.com/genrel/010306aae.html
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>> Does anyone know if we have had any Olympians since the
>> Dean brothers
>>> 1976
>>> Handball participation in Montreal ?
>>>
>>> Harry
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From jonathanwhodges at gmail.com  Tue Feb 14 11:18:15 2006
From: jonathanwhodges at gmail.com (Jonathan Hodges)
Date: Tue Feb 14 18:53:21 2006
Subject: [NU Sports] Northwestern Olympian
In-Reply-To: <021420061544.28600.43F1FAF40003D0CB00006FB822069997359D0A04040A969C@comcast.net>
References: <021420061544.28600.43F1FAF40003D0CB00006FB822069997359D0A04040A969C@comcast.net>
Message-ID: <fcb3ee270602140918h7b184c9dod7bca343d666c32b@mail.gmail.com>

Former NU student James Schroeder was on the US rowing team in the
2004 Greece games - he was at NU for 2 years before transferring to
Stanford (since NU's crew team is only a club sport while Stanford's
is varsity).

Jonathan

On 2/14/06, szeller@comcast.net <szeller@comcast.net> wrote:
> Wasn't an NU swimmer in the last Olympics?
> I know Dr. Debi Thomas, the medal-winning figure skater, went to NU Med School but that was after her Olympics.
> I had a classmate at NUMS, Gordon Downie, who had won a bronze medal in swimming at the Olympics (also before med school). He was the star of our champion med school intermurals innertube water team!
>
> Scott Zeller MD
> Med '86
>
> -------------- Original message --------------
> From: Hakirsch@aol.com
>
> > In a message dated 2/13/2006 9:34:42 PM Pacific Standard Time, johnl@mac.com
> > writes:
> >
> > > Although it's obviously not an NU sports event, Mark Murphy did have a
> > > little blip about this in one of his recent "Murphy's Mark" columns.
> > > It doesn't really provide much more info than you've already provided,
> > > however. Quite impressive.
> > >
> > > http://nusports.collegesports.com/genrel/010306aae.html
> > >
> > >
> >
> > Does anyone know if we have had any Olympians since the Dean brothers 1976
> > Handball participation in Montreal ?
> >
> > Harry
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From rstetson at capps-assoc.com  Tue Feb 14 16:53:12 2006
From: rstetson at capps-assoc.com (Roy Lamberton)
Date: Wed Feb 15 09:41:55 2006
Subject: [NU Sports] New OC Concerns
In-Reply-To: <8C7FFC57F50C2EB-1638-9730@FWM-D34.sysops.aol.com>
Message-ID: <004901c631b9$6ec087a0$6500a8c0@DAVIDXP>


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> 
> Do we have an official word yet on Garrick McGee as the new 
> OC ? 
No, however there is a rumble that Johns is going to be the new WR coach, so
connect the dots

> A concern I would have would be the experience factor.

Having talked with McGee over the last few years, he's a very bright, talented
guy who knows how to whip WR's in shape. I'd expect his offense to be even
sharper than Dunbar's. He's also an old QB so he kinda knows the position.
>
> When KW came on-board in 99, he had 8 years experience as an 
> OC 
Most important was the connection with RW at Miami and NC.

> When MD was named in 02, he had 20 years experience as a head 
> coach or Coordinator 
When he was hired as a TE coach, I think I commented that he seemed
overqualified to be a TE coach....

> GM has not had any coordinator or HC experience. 

McGee has experience in the pros, however, as a QC guy for the Jaguars - he
knows how to critique an offenses performance and his sessions with the WR's are
known for his toughness. 

>  I know GM has somewhat followed MD from UNI to NU (with 
> a stop in Toledo).  Can we deduce from this that he will run 
> the dunbar offense ? 

Or the spread?

> Or will he try and put his own stamp on 
> the offense ?

IMHO  -Yes


From rstetson at capps-assoc.com  Wed Feb 15 09:51:48 2006
From: rstetson at capps-assoc.com (Roy Lamberton)
Date: Wed Feb 15 09:58:39 2006
Subject: [NU Sports] NU Sports News Digest 2/15
Message-ID: <005201c63247$baec1a20$6500a8c0@DAVIDXP>

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Over the Hump Edition

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BASKETBALL

     Men
     Wildcats Take On Illinois In Champaign Wednesday Night
      http://nusports.collegesports.com/sports/m-baskbl/spec-rel/021406aac.html 
     + Wildcats have chance to add to Illini's pain
 
http://chicagosports.chicagotribune.com/sports/college/northwestern/cs-060215024
3feb15,1,3374570.story?coll=cs-college-nwestern-print 
     + Cat nouveau
 
http://www.dailynorthwestern.com/vnews/display.v/ART/2006/02/15/43f2c951a18b9 
     + NU takes rematch on road
 
http://www.dailynorthwestern.com/vnews/display.v/ART/2006/02/15/43f2c6dfd47fa 
     + This point is clear: Wildcats? Vukusic will score his share
      http://www.dailyherald.com/sports/northwestern.asp?id=156070

     Pregame INtel
     http://northwestern.Scout.com/2/499797.html

     Tilman: Crowd Control
      http://sports.wnur.org/analysts/ht021006.html 

     Next up - Wed at  Illinois
     Illinois Game Notes vs. Northwestern
 
http://fightingillini.collegesports.com/sports/m-baskbl/spec-rel/021406aaa.html 
     + Two-game skid has Illini 'alarmed'
      http://www.suntimes.com/output/campus/cst-spt-ill15.html 
     + Can Brown push Illini forward?
      http://www.dailyherald.com/sports/illinois.asp?id=156011 
     + Illini aim to tame Wildcats
 
http://www.dailyillini.com/news/2006/02/15/Sports/Illini.Aim.To.Tame.Wildcats-16
13777.shtml 
     + Guard Dee Brown to be considered for the Naismith
 
http://www.dailyillini.com/news/2006/02/15/Sports/Guard.Dee.Brown.To.Be.Consider
ed.For.The.Naismith-1613783.shtml 
     + Illini ask for more from less of Brown
      http://www.sj-r.com/sections/sports/stories/78864.asp 
     + Illini fall in Big Ten jumble
 
http://www.stltoday.com/stltoday/sports/stories.nsf/illini/story/80A50E66520F146
6862571160025730A?OpenDocument 
     + Game Day: Illini vs. Northwestern
 
http://www.stltoday.com/stltoday/sports/stories.nsf/illini/story/29486DA0B5C7A33
D8625711600257390?OpenDocument 
     + Weber: Dee, Augie feeling senior pressure
      http://www.herald-review.com/blogs/marktupper/?p=191 

     Saturday its at dOSU
     Buckeyes Looking For Rare Win At Wisconsin
      http://ohiostate.scout.com/2/499574.html 
     + Judge says former OSU coach fired improperly
 
http://www.daytondailynews.com/sports/content/sports/osu/daily/0215suitweb.html 

     Other Big 10
     Iowa Beats Spartans to Stay Atop Big Ten
      http://chicago.comcastsportsnet.com/view_content.asp?ID=25032 
     + Iowa takes down all comers
      http://www.suntimes.com/output/campus/cst-spt-iowa15.html 

     Hoosier distress call
 
http://chicagosports.chicagotribune.com/sports/college/cs-060213colbkiudavis,1,9
32761.story?coll=cs-college-headlines 
     + Davis? seat getting hotte
 
http://www.dailynorthwestern.com/vnews/display.v/ART/2006/02/15/43f2c9f11fe34 
     + Davis Not Planning to Quit on Hoosiers
      http://chicago.comcastsportsnet.com/view_content.asp?ID=25009 

     Skip Myslenski: Buckeyes, Hawkeyes in thick of race
 
http://chicagosports.chicagotribune.com/sports/college/cs-060212myslenski,1,1186
59.column?coll=cs-college-headlines 

FOOTBALL

     New Coaches?
      http://mb4.scout.com/fnorthwesternfrm3.showMessage?topicID=1041.topic 

RECRUITING

     Aaron Nagel Two more scholarship offers
 
http://scout.scout.com/a.z?s=179&p=9&c=2&cid=499622&nid=2241621&fhn=1&refid=4742


BASEBALL

     Schwartz and Mul? Named Big Ten Pitcher and Player of the Week
      http://nusports.collegesports.com/sports/m-basebl/spec-rel/021406aac.html 
     + Northwestern's Mul? and Schwartz Named Big Ten Player and Pitcher of the
Week
      http://bigten.collegesports.com/sports/m-basebl/spec-rel/021406aaa.html 

SWIMMING

     Northwestern Has High Hopes for Big Ten Championships
      http://nusports.collegesports.com/sports/w-swim/spec-rel/021406aab.html 
     + NU to face Big Ten's best in NCAA prelude
 
http://www.dailynorthwestern.com/vnews/display.v/ART/2006/02/15/43f2c7d470e57 
     + 2006 Big Ten Women's Swimming and Diving Championships kick off Wednesday
      http://bigten.collegesports.com/sports/w-swim/spec-rel/013006aaa.html 

     Engineering wins while immersed in school
 
http://www.dailynorthwestern.com/vnews/display.v/ART/2006/02/15/43f2cbd312f13 

Miscellany

     2006 College Academic All-Stars First Team
 
http://www.usatoday.com/news/education/2006-02-14-college-allstars-first-team_x.
htm 

Alumni

     Luke Donald scheduled for the Nissan Open
      http://www.pgatour.com/tournaments/r007 
     Then the next week Accenture Match Play Championship
      http://www.worldgolfchampionships.com/ 

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From NEONRye at aol.com  Wed Feb 15 11:47:39 2006
From: NEONRye at aol.com (NEONRye@aol.com)
Date: Wed Feb 15 11:51:41 2006
Subject: [NU Sports] OL Coaching Opening
Message-ID: <248.6fbdbd7.3124c33b@aol.com>

A week or two back, one of our listers had a post suggesting that RW should  
seek to hire Toledo's OL coach.  Well, I saw the other day in a short blurb  
in the NY POST (not the most reliable source) that Eric Mangini, the New York  
Jets' new Head Coach and Belichick disciple, has already snapped him up--I 
think  his name is Devlin, if memory serves.  However, when I checked the Jets 
web  site today, there was no OL Coach listed, so who knows....
 
Paul Levinson
From rstetson at capps-assoc.com  Thu Feb 16 11:13:01 2006
From: rstetson at capps-assoc.com (Roy Lamberton)
Date: Thu Feb 16 11:13:17 2006
Subject: [NU Sports] NU Sports News Digest 2/16
Message-ID: <000001c6331c$3dc920d0$6500a8c0@DAVIDXP>

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Tough loss Edition

Basketball loses a tough one, lots more changes in big 10. Women have Senior
night tonight, Football Assistant coaching changes [but not ours] Swimming,
Softball, Recruiting and Alumni stuff too...,

           All the News that Fits We Link
              Your Index to News about
          Northwestern University Athletics

BASKETBALL

     Men
     Minus Vukusic, Wildcats Fall on Road to No. 14 Illinois, 63-47
      http://nusports.collegesports.com/sports/m-baskbl/recaps/021506aaa.html 
     + Illini don't back down
 
http://chicagosports.chicagotribune.com/sports/college/northwestern/cs-060216031
1feb16,1,2457064.story?coll=cs-college-nwestern-print 
     + No Vedran, No Win NU 47 ILL 63
      http://northwestern.scout.com/2/500076.html 
     + Great Scott: Center has best game of conference season
 
http://www.dailynorthwestern.com/vnews/display.v/ART/2006/02/16/43f42bb0d6144 
     + Star-less NU can't keep up
 
http://www.dailynorthwestern.com/vnews/display.v/ART/2006/02/16/43f42cad75a42 
     + Northwestern's effort falls short
      http://www.dailyherald.com/sports/northwestern.asp?id=156414 
     + NU's Vukusic sits out defeat
      http://www.nwherald.com/SportsSection/college/290426199044795.php 

     Tao: 'Just tired' does not excuse loss
 
http://www.dailynorthwestern.com/vnews/display.v/ART/2006/02/16/43f42af0e6137 
     Lamberton: Random Thoughts: A Team without VV?
      http://northwestern.scout.com/2/500096.html 
     Watts: Postseason still possible for Wildcats
 
http://www.pioneerlocal.com/cgi-bin/ppo-story/sports/current/ev/02-16-06-830308.
html 

     Vedran Vukusic Day to Day for OSU [and beyond?]
 
http://scout.scout.com/a.z?s=179&p=9&c=2&cid=500066&nid=1899365&fhn=1&refid=4742

     From the Illinois Fighting Illini
     No. 14 Illini Defeat Northwestern, 63-47
 
http://fightingillini.collegesports.com/sports/m-baskbl/recaps/021506aaa.html
     + 2nd Half shooting Stymies Northwestern
      http://illinois.scout.com/2/500054.html
     + Illini don't back down
 
http://chicagosports.chicagotribune.com/sports/college/cs-060215nuillinigamer,1,
5074211.story?coll=cs-college-headlines
     + Guess who's Dee spark for Illini
      http://www.suntimes.com/output/campus/cst-spt-ill16.html
     + Weber wary of backed-into-corner opponent
      http://www.suntimes.com/output/campus/cst-spt-illnt16.html
     + Weber's message works for Illini
      http://www.dailyherald.com/sports/illinois.asp?id=156415
     + College Basketball: No. 14 Illinois 63, Northwestern 47
      http://www.dailysouthtown.com/southtown/dssports/pro/161sd1.htm
     + Weber unsure of what to expect from Indiana
      http://www.dailysouthtown.com/southtown/dssports/pro/161sd2.htm
     + To Scream for
      http://www.nwherald.com/SportsSection/287924846824956.php
     + Brown takes out 'Cats
      http://www.sj-r.com/sections/sports/stories/78960.asp
     + Brown's late run speaks for itself
 
http://www.stltoday.com/stltoday/sports/stories.nsf/illini/story/57B39222FCADB32
E8625711700219D0F?OpenDocument
     + Weber keeps Illini aloft
 
http://www.stltoday.com/stltoday/sports/stories.nsf/illini/story/3DF3E964695DBB8
F8625710F001E947F?OpenDocument
     + Finally finding what they're looking for
 
http://www.herald-review.com/articles/2006/02/16/sports/mark_tupper/1013120.txt
     + Illinois Pulls Away Late to Beat Northwestern
      http://chicago.comcastsportsnet.com/view_content.asp?ID=25090

     Saturday its at dOSU
     Badgers Upend No. 12 Buckeyes In Madison
 
http://ohiostatebuckeyes.collegesports.com/sports/m-baskbl/recaps/021506aaa.html
     + OSU Falls At Wisconsin, 78-73
      http://ohiostate.scout.com/2/499962.html
     + Wisconsin holds off Ohio State
      http://www.cantonrep.com/index.php?ID=269633&Category=17
     + Buckeyes Fall to Badgers in Wisconsin
      http://www.10tv.com/Global/story.asp?S=4510263&nav=LUEU
     + Wisconsin rallies past No. 12 OSU
 
http://www.daytondailynews.com/sports/content/shared-gen/ap/College_Sports_Game_
Stories/BKC_T25_Ohio_St_Wisconsin.html

     Statements From The Ohio State University Regarding O'Brien Decision
      http://ohiostatebuckeyes.collegesports.com/genrel/021506aaa.html
     + O'Brien happy with ruling, sorry court fight necessary
 
http://www.daytondailynews.com/sports/content/sports/osu/daily/0216obrien.html
     + How does ruling affect ex-assistant, current WSU coach Biancardi?
 
http://www.daytondailynews.com/sports/content/sports/wsu/daily/0216biancardi.htm
l

     Other Big 10
     IU's road slide continues
 
http://www.indystar.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20060216/SPORTS0601/602160457
/1004/SPORTS

     Report: Davis on his way out at Indiana
      http://www.nwherald.com/SportsSection/college/287924848330493.php
     + Mike Davis resigns
 
http://www.indystar.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20060216/SPORTS0601/602160474
/1004/SPORTS
     + Make no mistake: It was time for Davis to go
 
http://www.indystar.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20060216/COLUMNISTS01/6021604
62/1004/SPORTS
     + Vitale criticizes IU for Davis situation
 
http://www.indystar.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20060216/SPORTS0601/602160456
/1004/SPORTS

     WOMEN
     Wildcats Set for Final Home Game of 2005-06 Season
      http://nusports.collegesports.com/sports/w-baskbl/spec-rel/021506aac.html
     + Cats counting on home court to provide edge against Illini
 
http://www.pioneerlocal.com/cgi-bin/ppo-story/sports/current/ev/02-16-06-833342.
html

     Grateful NU bids 'Foamy' farewell
 
http://www.dailynorthwestern.com/vnews/display.v/ART/2006/02/16/43f429c632507

FOOTBALL

     Purdue promotes Legg to offensive coordinator
      http://msn.foxsports.com/cfb/story/5334234?CMP=OTC-K9B140813162&ATT=24
     Michigan promotes one assistant, hires two
 
http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/rssclick/2006/football/ncaa/02/14/bc.fbc.michig
an.coaches.ap/index.html?section=si_ncaaf
     Wilson & Dunbar on this list
     20 coordinators you should know for 2006
      http://msn.foxsports.com/cfb/story/5334446?CMP=OTC-K9B140813162&ATT=24
     UW football could play a game at Lambeau
 
http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/rssclick/2006/football/ncaa/02/14/bc.fbc.wiscon
sin.lambeau.ap/index.html?section=si_ncaaf

RECRUITING

     Pittsburgh OL: Three Junior Days, Incl. U-M
      http://story.scout.com/a.z?s=179&p=2&c=500039
     Aaron Nagel Keep the offers comin'
 
http://scout.scout.com/a.z?s=179&p=9&c=2&cid=500093&nid=2241621&fhn=1&refid=4742

SOFTBALL

     Drohan charts rugged slate for softball squad
 
http://www.pioneerlocal.com/cgi-bin/ppo-story/sports/current/ev/02-16-06-831279.
html

SWIMMING

     Day Two prelims underway at 2006 Big Ten Women's Swimming and Diving
Championships
      http://bigten.collegesports.com/sports/w-swim/spec-rel/013006aaa.html
     + Live Stats [click your favorite event]
      http://ohiostatebuckeyes.collegesports.com/livestats/m-swim/
     Big Ten Championships Under Way in Columbus
      http://nusports.collegesports.com/sports/w-swim/recaps/021506aaa.html

Miscellany

     Murphy's Mark: Fund-raising Effort Underway
      http://nusports.collegesports.com/genrel/021506aab.html
     Panel considers college standardized testing
      http://www.dailycolonial.com/go.dc?p=3&s=2192
     Crowley finishes 22nd
 
http://www.pioneerlocal.com/cgi-bin/ppo-story/sports/current/ev/02-16-06-830910.
html

     not our problem, is it?
     NCAA aims for tougher position on 'diploma-mill' schools
      http://rssfeeds.usatoday.com/UsatodaycomCollegeFootball-TopStories?m=528

Alumni

     Missouri has 10 sacks in 3 games...
     Dwayne Missouri: Week 4 Soul Game Notes vs. New York
      http://www.philadelphiasoul.com/documents/SOUL%20Notes%20-%20Week%204.pdf
     But scores last week
     SOUL DROP FIRST GAME OF THE SEASON, 47-33 TO THE ORLANDO PREDATORS
      http://www.philadelphiasoul.com/news/current_news/506927.html

     Luke Donald
      http://www.pgatour.com/players/scorecard/291587/r007/2006
     Tee Time 8:45 PT at the Nissan Open
      http://www.pgatour.com/players/scorecard/291587/r007/2006

     Then the next week Accenture Match Play Championship
      http://www.worldgolfchampionships.com/

     from last week's tourney...
     Oberholser breaks duck
 
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/main.jhtml;jsessionid=RYDSWT1C0IEOHQFIQMFCFF4AV
CBQYIV0?xml=/sport/2006/02/13/sgarts13.xml&sSheet=/sport/2006/02/16/ixgolf.html
     + 12 February 2006: Rocks keep Donald rolling along in third place
 
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/main.jhtml?xml=/sport/2006/02/12/sgus12.xml

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From rstetson at capps-assoc.com  Fri Feb 17 11:06:45 2006
From: rstetson at capps-assoc.com (Roy Lamberton)
Date: Fri Feb 17 15:31:34 2006
Subject: [NU Sports] NU Sports News Digest 2/17
Message-ID: <000701c633e4$8866db00$6500a8c0@DAVIDXP>

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Another Tough loss Edition

Women finish home stand with loss, Good news from the Men's side however.
Indiana Coaching fallout, Football, Recruiting, plus Wrestiling, Tennis,
Swimming, softball, Baseball, Fencing, even Miscellany and the 
Alumni today...


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BASKETBALL

     Men
     Cats Take on No. 12 Ohio State Saturday in Columbus
      http://nusports.collegesports.com/sports/m-baskbl/spec-rel/021606aab.html 
     + Vukusic says he'll face OSU
 
http://chicagosports.chicagotribune.com/sports/college/cs-060216nu,1,3072072.sto
ry?coll=cs-college-headlines 
     + Vedran's status uncertain for Saturday
 
http://www.dailynorthwestern.com/vnews/display.v/ART/2006/02/17/43f57faba1dcf 
     + Wildcats' Vukusic expects he'll be OK for Ohio State
      http://www.dailyherald.com/sports/northwestern.asp?id=157099 
     $ Northwestern @ Illinois: Photo Gallery
      http://story.scout.com/a.z?s=179&p=2&c=500154 

     Purple Ponderings: A word to Mr. Tim Doyle.
      http://www.mopsquad.com/ncaa/index.htm 

     Saturday its at dOSU
     Buckeyes Welcome Wildcats to Value City Arena
 
http://ohiostatebuckeyes.collegesports.com/sports/m-baskbl/spec-rel/021606aaa.ht
ml 


     Other Big 10
     Davis resigns, says IU program needs to reunite
      http://www.suntimes.com/output/campus/cst-spt-ind17.html 
     + Prying Alford away from Iowa might not be hard
      http://www.suntimes.com/output/campus/cst-spt-herb17.html 
     + Kindred: Hoosiers hire has Greenspan on the hot seat
 
http://www.pantagraph.com/articles/2006/02/17/sports/doc43f56e2b96e8e613889510.t
xt 
     + Doxie: for Alford, but do the fans care?
 
http://www.qctimes.net/articles/2006/02/17/sports/doc43f56821a2ea2787180581.txt 
     + Mutka:  Zero tolerance is what some IU rooters had for Davis
 
http://www.post-trib.com/cgi-bin/pto-story/sports/z1/02-17-06_z1_spor_01.html 

     Brown's call gives Augustine a boost
      http://www.dailyherald.com/sports/illinois.asp?id=157041 

     WOMEN
     Illinois Edges 'Cats
      http://nusports.collegesports.com/sports/w-baskbl/recaps/021606aac.html 
     + Foul play does in Cats
 
http://www.dailynorthwestern.com/vnews/display.v/ART/2006/02/17/43f580733d755 
     + Sour send-off for Wildcats' lone senior
 
http://www.dailynorthwestern.com/vnews/display.v/ART/2006/02/17/43f58303e9dde 

     Gordon's Three-Point Play Lifts Illini Over Wildcats
 
http://fightingillini.collegesports.com/sports/w-baskbl/recaps/021606aaa.html 

FOOTBALL

     Notes: Settle named Wisconsin's RB coach
      http://rssfeeds.usatoday.com/UsatodaycomCollegeFootball-TopStories?m=529 

RECRUITING

     Justin Siller Two Big Ten offers
 
http://scout.scout.com/a.z?s=179&p=9&c=2&cid=500177&nid=2408836&fhn=1&refid=4742


BASEBALL

     For the Good of the Commonwealth; Wildcats Travel to Richmond
      http://nusports.collegesports.com/sports/m-basebl/spec-rel/021606aab.html 

FENCING

     Fencing love came on a whim
 
http://www.dailynorthwestern.com/vnews/display.v/ART/2006/02/17/43f57f23d7c88 

SOFTBALL

     3-2 Cats up to #12
     Michigan Continues Hold on Top Spot in USA Today/NFCA Top 25 Poll
      http://www.nfca.org/news/?id=2353 
     Louie Traub's UNLV game of the week
      http://www.unlvrebelyell.com/article.php?ID=8843 

SWIMMING

     Northwestern in Ninth at Big Ten Championships
      http://nusports.collegesports.com/sports/w-swim/recaps/021706aaa.html 
     Matt Grevers Featured in Sports Illustrated's Faces in the Crowd
      http://nusports.collegesports.com/sports/m-swim/spec-rel/021606aaa.html 

TENNIS

     No. 8 Northwestern to Host No. 9 Harvard and No. 50 Wisconsin
      http://nusports.collegesports.com/sports/w-tennis/spec-rel/021706aaa.html 
     + Badgers Visit Marquette and Northwestern
 
http://www.uwbadgers.com/sport_news/wtns/headlines/full_story.aspx?story_id=2006
_02_16_14_33_51_wtns 

WRESTLING

     13th-Ranked Wildcats Host No. 17 Indiana in Regular-Season Finale
      http://nusports.collegesports.com/sports/m-wrestl/spec-rel/021706aac.html 
     + Cats cap best league season in years with final home match
 
http://www.dailynorthwestern.com/vnews/display.v/ART/2006/02/17/43f58422966a6 

Miscellany

     Halftime, kickoffs seen as places to cut back long football games
      http://rssfeeds.usatoday.com/UsatodaycomCollegeFootball-TopStories?m=531 
     Chicago to Get Indoor Lacrosse Team Too
      http://chicago.comcastsportsnet.com/view_content.asp?ID=25165 

Alumni


     Luke Donald 
      http://www.pgatour.com/players/scorecard/291587/r007/2006 
     1st round -2 at the Nissan Open
      http://www.pgatour.com/tournaments/r007 
     Rose driving hard to revive career
 
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/main.jhtml;jsessionid=H4XVLBASF103DQFIQMFCFFOAV
CBQYIV0?xml=/sport/2006/02/17/sgspan17.xml&sSheet=/sport/2006/02/17/ixgolf.html 
     + Rose shares lead at Nissan Open
      http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/golf/4722314.stm 

     Then the next week Accenture Match Play Championship
      http://www.worldgolfchampionships.com/ 

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From mckhome at bright.net  Fri Feb 17 18:04:29 2006
From: mckhome at bright.net (mckhome)
Date: Fri Feb 17 18:21:22 2006
Subject: [NU Sports] please unsubscribe me
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From rstetson at capps-assoc.com  Sat Feb 18 10:31:00 2006
From: rstetson at capps-assoc.com (Roy Lamberton)
Date: Sat Feb 18 10:31:27 2006
Subject: [NU Sports] Chat during the Basketball Game
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If you're interested ...

http://client1.sigmachat.com/sc.pl?id=122893

rsl

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From WildElk2 at aol.com  Sun Feb 19 18:17:48 2006
From: WildElk2 at aol.com (WildElk2@aol.com)
Date: Sun Feb 19 18:52:09 2006
Subject: [NU Sports] NU-OSU
Message-ID: <8.79a318d9.312a64ac@aol.com>

   Courageous efforts in the last 2 games, especially at Ill. without VV.  
Presuming VV stays healthy, we go 3-1 down the stretch.  I like our defense and 
Hachad has turned it up the past few weeks.
   I know the NUMBers will love this:  I was listening to Purdue-Penn St. 
yesterday; the Purdue pep band was playing, " I wish I were an Oscar Meyer 
Weiner."  Yes, it's true; they bang a big drum and they're really dumb.

   GET WISKY!!!            go Cats!  Eric
From rstetson at capps-assoc.com  Mon Feb 20 10:35:41 2006
From: rstetson at capps-assoc.com (Roy Lamberton)
Date: Mon Feb 20 10:41:57 2006
Subject: [NU Sports] NU Sports News Digest 2/20
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Weekend Wrapup Edition

        All the News that Fits We Link
           Your Index to News about
       Northwestern University Athletics

BASKETBALL

     Men
     Northwestern Drops A Close One To No. 12 Ohio State
      http://nusports.collegesports.com/sports/m-baskbl/recaps/021806aaa.html
     + Back to .500 NU 52 OSU 61
      http://northwestern.scout.com/2/500671.html
     + Buckeyes shake off Wildcats, Hachad
 
http://chicagosports.chicagotribune.com/sports/college/cs-060218nugamer,1,536029
6.story?coll=cs-college-headlines
     + Sleepy Buckeyes wake up to stop Cats' upset bid
      http://www.suntimes.com/output/campus/cst-spt-1big19.html
     + Ohio St. wakes up in time to defeat Northwestern
      http://www.dailyherald.com/sports/northwestern.asp?id=157822
     + NCAA Game Summary - Northwestern At Ohio State
      http://www.nbc5.com/cbaskc07/7194132/detail.html
     + Vukusic scores 17 in game back from injury
 
http://www.dailynorthwestern.com/vnews/display.v/ART/2006/02/20/43f959d978cd0
     + Buckling down the stretch
 
http://www.dailynorthwestern.com/vnews/display.v/ART/2006/02/20/43f958a587eb7

     Dorsey:  Princeton O isn't best fit for Mo
 
http://www.dailynorthwestern.com/vnews/display.v/ART/2006/02/20/43f9580aa82a2

     at dOSU
     Dials Leads Buckeyes Past Northwestern
 
http://ohiostatebuckeyes.collegesports.com/sports/m-baskbl/recaps/021806aaa.html
     + OSU Pulls It Together, Holds Off Northwestern
      http://ohiostate.scout.com/2/500625.html
     + Buckeyes subdue Wildcats after slow start
 
http://www.dispatch.com/bball/bball.php?story=dispatch/2006/02/19/20060219-E1-03
.html
     + Bob Hunter: Speculation won't end until Matta says no to IU
 
http://www.dispatch.com/bball/bball.php?story=dispatch/2006/02/19/20060219-E1-00
.html
     + Buckeyes Hold Off Northwestern
      http://www.10tv.com/Global/story.asp?S=4522270&nav=LUEU
     + Buckeyes get sloppy win
 
http://www.daytondailynews.com/sports/content/shared-gen/ap/College_Sports_Game_
Stories/BKC_T25_Northwestern_Ohio_St.html
     + Misfiring Bucks ride defense past NU
      http://www.limaohio.com/story.php?IDnum=22712

     Thursday with Wisconsin
     Taylor coming into his own
      http://wisconsin.scout.com/2/500787.html

     Other Big 10
     Illini rock Hoosiers
 
http://chicagosports.chicagotribune.com/sports/college/cs-060219illinigamer,1,28
06825.story?coll=cs-college-headlines
     + Illinois adds to Indiana's suffering
      http://www.suntimes.com/output/campus/cst-spt-ill20.html
     + Big Ten title there for the taking
      http://www.suntimes.com/output/campus/cst-spt-herb20.html
     + Illini tune up for big stretch
      http://www.dailyherald.com/sports/sportsstory.asp?id=158154
     + After scare, Randle returns and thrives
      http://www.dailyherald.com/sports/sportsstory.asp?id=158156
     + College Basketball: No. 14 Illinois 70, Indiana 58
      http://www.dailysouthtown.com/southtown/dssports/pro/201sd2.htm
     + Illinois Notebook
      http://www.dailysouthtown.com/southtown/dssports/pro/201sd3.htm
     + Illinois took advantage early and dealt the Hoosiers its fifth
consecutive loss with a 70-58 victory at Assembly Hall
      http://chicago.comcastsportsnet.com/view_content.asp?ID=25305

     Advantage goes to Illini
 
http://chicagosports.chicagotribune.com/sports/college/cs-060218illini,1,465747.
story?coll=cs-college-headlines
     + Wrong time and place in Weber's eyes
      http://www.suntimes.com/output/campus/cst-spt-ill19.html
     + Illini to face huge challenge down stretch
      http://www.dailyherald.com/sports/illinois.asp?id=157918

     Hoosiers Set To Face No. 14/13 Illinois
 
http://iuhoosiers.collegesports.com/sports/m-baskbl/spec-rel/021706aac.html
     + Glory has eluded Hoosiers for a while
 
http://www.post-trib.com/cgi-bin/pto-story/sports/z1/02-19-06_z1_spor_03.html
     Upstart Gophers stall Iowa title run
      http://www.suntimes.com/output/campus/cst-spt-nu19.html

     Michigan St. mashes Michigan
      http://www.suntimes.com/output/campus/cst-spt-2big19.html

     Nittany Lions zone out Boilermakers
      http://www.suntimes.com/output/campus/cst-spt-3big19.html

     WOMEN
     Off until Thursday

FOOTBALL
RECRUITING

     Aaron Nagel ScoutTV - Hot Chicago prospect
 
http://scout.scout.com/a.z?s=179&p=9&c=2&cid=500634&nid=2241621&fhn=1&refid=4742
     ScoutTV - RB Aaron Nagel
      http://story.scout.com/a.z?s=179&p=2&c=500630
     + Versatility leads to offers
 
http://scout.scout.com/a.z?s=179&p=9&c=2&cid=500804&nid=2241621&fhn=1&refid=4742
     + Brings it like John Lynch!
 
http://scout.scout.com/a.z?s=179&p=9&c=2&cid=500846&nid=2241621&fhn=1&refid=4742
     + Another visit; another offer
 
http://scout.scout.com/a.z?s=179&p=9&c=2&cid=501016&nid=2241621&fhn=1&refid=4742
     + Lemont's Nagel becomes hot commodity
 
http://www.chicagotribune.com/sports/cs-060218recruitbits,0,2818083.story?coll=c
s-highschool-newspapers

     Austin Szafranski ScoutTV - San Antonio standout
 
http://scout.scout.com/a.z?s=179&p=9&c=2&cid=500615&nid=2403269&fhn=1&refid=4742

     Chris Shannon
      http://scout.scout.com/a.z?s=179&p=8&c=1&nid=2391296&refid=4741 

BASEBALL

     Wildcats Win 6-5 Extra-Inning Thriller Over Virginia Commonwealth
      http://nusports.collegesports.com/sports/m-basebl/recaps/021806aac.html 
     Sunday Baseball Canceled
      http://nusports.collegesports.com/sports/m-basebl/spec-rel/021906aaa.html 

FENCING

     Ross and Nemecek Place at USFA National Junior Olympics
      http://nusports.collegesports.com/sports/w-fenc/recaps/021906aaa.html 

GOLF

     Teeing off from sunny Florida
 
http://www.dailynorthwestern.com/vnews/display.v/ART/2006/02/20/43f95b8b44d87 

\LACROSSE

     Wildcats Picked to Repeat in ALC; Kjellman Preseason Player of the Year
      http://nusports.collegesports.com/sports/w-lacros/spec-rel/021806aaa.html 

SOCCER

     2006 Spring Slate Begins Sunday
      http://nusports.collegesports.com/sports/w-soccer/spec-rel/021806aaa.html 

SOFTBALL

     No. 12 Northwestern Swats Central Michigan, 11-3, in Six Innings
      http://nusports.collegesports.com/sports/w-softbl/recaps/021906aab.html 
     + Long Ball Propels No. 12 Northwestern to 11-3 Win
 
http://cmuchippewas.collegesports.com/sports/w-softbl/recaps/021906aaa.html 

     Eileen Canney, No. 12 Wildcats Shut Down No. 8 California, 3-0
      http://nusports.collegesports.com/sports/w-softbl/recaps/021806aah.html 

     No. 14 Oregon State Bests No. 12 Northwestern, 6-2
      http://nusports.collegesports.com/sports/w-softbl/recaps/021806aaf.html 
     + Softball makes eight straight wins at UNLV Desert Classic
      http://barometer.orst.edu/vnews/display.v/ART/2006/02/20/43f97699e9688 

SWIMMING

     Many divers must confront a dive that goes wrong
      http://www.miami.com/mld/miamiherald/sports/13908622.htm 
     Northwestern Finishes Eighth at Big Ten Championships
      http://nusports.collegesports.com/sports/w-swim/recaps/021806aab.html 

TENNIS

     WOMEN
     No. 8 Northwestern Blows By Wisconsin in Conference Opener, 6-1
      http://nusports.collegesports.com/sports/w-tennis/recaps/021806aaa.html 
     + Women's Tennis Falls to No. 8 Northwestern in Big Ten Opener
 
http://www.uwbadgers.com/sport_news/wtns/headlines/full_story.aspx?story_id=2006
_02_18_21_19_28_wtns 

     MEN
     Wisconsin Edges Northwestern in Conference Opener, 4-3
      http://nusports.collegesports.com/sports/m-tennis/recaps/021806aac.html 
     + Badgers Upset Wildcats in Big Ten Opener
 
http://www.uwbadgers.com/sport_news/mtns/headlines/full_story.aspx?story_id=2006
_02_18_17_31_56_mtns 

WRESTLING

     Wildcats Cruise to Comeback Win Over Hoosiers, 19-15
      http://nusports.collegesports.com/sports/m-wrestl/recaps/021706aac.html 

Miscellany
Alumni

     Nothing like keeping it close
     Dwayne Missouri SOUL KNOCK OFF DRAGONS; 75-59
      http://www.philadelphiasoul.com/news/current_news/507828.html 

     Sam Simmons KANSAS CITY BRIGADE DOWNS COLUMBUS DESTROYERS 45-24 FOR
FIRST-EVER VICTORY
      http://www.kcbrigade.com/firstwin.htm 
     + There's a big D in Brigade
 
http://www.kansascity.com/mld/kansascity/sports/special_packages/kansas_city_bri
gade/13914636.htm 

     Levelle Brown RUSH GETS BLOWOUT WIN IN LA
      http://www.chicagorush.com/news.asp?ID=570 

     Luke Donald Finished tied for 12th at the Nissan Open
      http://www.pgatour.com/tournaments/r007 

     This week: Accenture Match Play Championship
      http://www.worldgolfchampionships.com/ 
     + La Costa's last stand
      http://www.signonsandiego.com/sports/golf/20060220-9999-1s20lacosta.html 

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From rstetson at capps-assoc.com  Wed Feb 22 09:37:35 2006
From: rstetson at capps-assoc.com (Roy Lamberton)
Date: Wed Feb 22 09:37:44 2006
Subject: [NU Sports] NU Sports News Digest 2/22
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The Real Washington's Birthday Edition

One more day to Basketball rematch with Wiscy, Women playing at Penn State too,
Draft Combine info, Golf, Recruit updates, Softball, Lacrosse, Wrestling and
Miscellany too..

       All the News that Fits We Link
          Your Index to News about
     Northwestern University Athletics

BASKETBALL

     Men
     NIT changes could nix NU
 
http://chicagosports.chicagotribune.com/sports/college/cs-060221nu,1,2351172.sto
ry?coll=cs-college-headlines 
     + Vedran Vukusic: a different breed of Big Ten big man
      http://www.dailycardinal.com/article.php?storyid=1028875 

     Thursday with Wisconsin
     Big Ten notes: Difficult road ahead
      http://www.jsonline.com/story/index.aspx?id=403232 
     + Weekly Badgers report
      http://www.jsonline.com/story/index.aspx?id=403207 

     Its Revenge time at  Penn State
     Men's Basketball Heads To Indiana For 7 p.m. Tip-off Tonight
      http://www.gopsusports.com/pressreleases/pressrelease.cfm?anncid=9600 
     + Big Ten Roundup: Penn State zones in on win
      http://www.post-gazette.com/pg/06050/657890.stm 
     + Zone scheme improving perimeter defense
 
http://www.collegian.psu.edu/archive/2006/02/02-22-06tdc/02-22-06dsports-01.asp 
     + Lions seeking third straight
 
http://www.collegian.psu.edu/archive/2006/02/02-22-06tdc/02-22-06dsports-03.asp 
     + Hoosiers hope ball gets rolling right way
 
http://www.indystar.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20060222/SPORTS0601/602220425
/1004/SPORTS 

     Other Big 10
     Horton has a hoot, hurts Illini's hopes
      http://www.suntimes.com/output/campus/cst-spt-ill22.html 
     + Illini hopes spring big leak
 
http://www.chicagotribune.com/sports/college/cs-060221illinigamer,0,6222656.stor
y?coll=chi-sportsnew-hed 

     WOMEN
     Learning from an old bull
 
http://www.dailynorthwestern.com/vnews/display.v/ART/2006/02/22/43fc08e0e5d69 

FOOTBALL

     NFL Draft Combine notes in Alumni

RECRUITING

     Kevin Coble  End of 2 year run - Ariz. Lutheran wins
      http://www.azcentral.com/sports/preps/articles/02212Abhoops0221.html 

GOLF

     Alice Kim Places Fifth, Wildcats Ninth at Central District Invitational
      http://nusports.collegesports.com/sports/w-golf/recaps/022106aaa.html 

SOFTBALL

     Kristen Amegin Named Big Ten Player of the Week
      http://nusports.collegesports.com/sports/w-softbl/spec-rel/022106aaa.html 
     Pitcher drafted by Philly softball team
 
http://www.dailynorthwestern.com/vnews/display.v/ART/2006/02/22/43fc03ea89a5a 

SWIMMING

     Big Ten Championships Preview
      http://bigten.collegesports.com/sports/m-swim/spec-rel/022106aaa.html 
     + 2006 Men's Swimming & Diving Championships Begin Thursday
      http://bigten.collegesports.com/sports/m-swim/spec-rel/022006aaa.html 
     + 2006 Championships Information
      http://bigten.collegesports.com/sports/m-swim/spec-rel/020106aab.html 

     Matt Gevers in on some of these
     + 2005-06 Top Performances
      http://www.directathletics.com/lists/swimming/65_47.html 

WRESTLING

     One for all
 
http://www.dailynorthwestern.com/vnews/display.v/ART/2006/02/22/43fc062e420ba 

Miscellany

     Lawsuit: NCAA should pay 'full cost'
 
http://www.indystar.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20060222/SPORTS/602220460/100
4/SPORTS 

Alumni

     NU Cats at the 2006 NFL Draft Combine
      http://northwestern.scout.com/2/501685.html 
     Courtnay Foster Drafted by Philadelphia Force
      http://nusports.collegesports.com/sports/w-softbl/spec-rel/022006aaa.html 

     Luke Donald: This week: Accenture Match Play Championship
      http://www.worldgolfchampionships.com/ 
     + Accenture Match Play Championship Leaderboard
      http://www.worldgolfchampionships.com/scoring/r470 
     + Luke's Bracket
      http://www.worldgolfchampionships.com/scoring/brackets/r470/snead 

     Tim Johnson 
      http://www.pgatour.com/players/scorecard/466839/h078/2006 
     at the ING New Zealand PGA Championship
      http://www.pgatour.com/tournaments/h078 

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From rstetson at capps-assoc.com  Thu Feb 23 20:51:52 2006
From: rstetson at capps-assoc.com (Roy Lamberton)
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From rstetson at capps-assoc.com  Fri Feb 24 07:28:17 2006
From: rstetson at capps-assoc.com (Roy Lamberton)
Date: Fri Feb 24 08:38:54 2006
Subject: [NU Sports] NU Sports News Digest 2/24
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                     Northwestern University Athletics
BASKETBALL

     Men
     Northwestern Knocks Off Wisconsin, 62-51
      http://nusports.collegesports.com/sports/m-baskbl/recaps/022306aaa.html 
     + Lucky 13 & Mo's 25: NU 62 Wiscy 51
      http://northwestern.scout.com/2/502290.html 
     + Hachad takes over for Cats
 
http://chicagosports.chicagotribune.com/sports/college/northwestern/cs-060224029
5feb24,1,6585841.story?coll=cs-college-nwestern-print 
     + 'Over the hump' at last 
 
http://www.dailynorthwestern.com/vnews/display.v/ART/2006/02/24/43febf1b4f73d 
     + Guard's career night propels Cats
 
http://www.dailynorthwestern.com/vnews/display.v/ART/2006/02/24/43febeb0852ab 
     + Hachad (25 points) helps Wildcats produce victory
      http://www.dailyherald.com/sports/sportsstory.asp?id=159671 
     + NU trips another contender
      http://www.nwherald.com/SportsSection/college/291662699151164.php 

     Duncan: National TV brings out best in everyone
 
http://www.dailynorthwestern.com/vnews/display.v/ART/2006/02/24/43febe3e6f4b4 
     Watts: Final stretch holds key to Wildcats' postseason
 
http://www.pioneerlocal.com/cgi-bin/ppo-story/sports/current/ev/02-23-06-839114.
html 
     Men's hoops photo gallery 
      http://story.scout.com/a.z?s=179&p=2&c=502285 
     + Men's hoops photo gallery 2
      http://wisconsin.scout.com/2/502344.html 

     From the Wisconsin side
     Badgers Stopped by Wildcats, 62-51
 
http://www.uwbadgers.com/sport_news/mbb/headlines/full_story.aspx?story_id=2006_
02_23_22_05_02_mbb 
     + Northwestern 62, Wisconsin 51
      http://story.scout.com/a.z?s=179&p=2&c=502283 
     $  Linder: Eye on Evanston 
      http://story.scout.com/a.z?s=179&p=2&c=502057 
     $ Road woe: Badgers fall behind in title chase
      http://wisconsin.scout.com/2/502336.html 
     $ Men's hoops press conference audio
      http://wisconsin.scout.com/2/502303.html 
     $ Taylor/Tucker/Butch audio
      http://wisconsin.scout.com/2/502316.html 
     + Badgers halted by pesky Wildcats
      http://badgerherald.com/sports/2006/02/24/badgers_halted_by_pe.php 
     + Blunders burn Badgers on road
      http://www.dailycardinal.com/article.php?storyid=1028953 
     + Wisconsin versus Northwestern analysis
      http://www.dailycardinal.com/article.php?storyid=1028956 
     + Trap springs defeat
 
http://www.madison.com/wsj/home/sports/badgersBBm/gallery/index.php?ntid=73931 
     + Badgers can't tame 'Cats
      http://nbc15.madison.com/sports/headlines/2362921.html 
     + Tucker committed to UW's cause, this year and next
      http://www.madison.com/tct/sports/uw/basketball/men/index.php?ntid=73793 
     + Cats' scratch really hurts
      http://www.jsonline.com/story/index.aspx?id=403794 
     + Thursday game report
      http://www.jsonline.com/story/index.aspx?id=403822 
     + Northwestern 62, UW 51
      http://www.jsonline.com/story/index.aspx?id=403794 

     Its Revenge time at  Penn State
     Indiana Rallies to Edge Nittany Lions, 69-65
      http://www.gopsusports.com/pressreleases/pressrelease.cfm?anncid=9620 
     + "Fan Appreciation Day" Set for This Weekend as Basketball Teams Conclude
Home Slates
      http://www.gopsusports.com/pressreleases/pressrelease.cfm?anncid=9625 
     + Lions Fall to Hoosiers
      http://pennstate.scout.com/2/501896.html 
     + Nittany Lions remain winless at Assembly Hall
 
http://www.centredaily.com/mld/centredaily/sports/colleges/pennsylvania_state_un
iversity/13938353.htm 

     Other Big 10
     The face of the Illini
      http://www.dailyherald.com/sports/sportsstory.asp?id=159657 

     WOMEN
     'Cats Edged By Lady Lions, 72-64
     http://nusports.collegesports.com/sports/w-baskbl/recaps/022306aaa.html 
     + Penn State's free throw barrage downs NU
 
http://www.dailynorthwestern.com/vnews/display.v/ART/2006/02/24/43febc7719bea 
     + Team fights past 'Cats
 
http://www.collegian.psu.edu/archive/2006/02/02-24-06tdc/02-24-06dsports-10.asp 
     + Brown, foul shots push Lady Lions to narrow victory
 
http://www.centredaily.com/mld/centredaily/sports/colleges/pennsylvania_state_un
iversity/13947911.htm 

     Wildcats unable to stop Illinois
 
http://www.pioneerlocal.com/cgi-bin/ppo-story/sports/current/ev/02-23-06-840298.
html 

FOOTBALL

     Northwestern Hires Two Coaches; Promotes Garrick McGee to Offensive
Coordinator
      http://nusports.collegesports.com/sports/m-footbl/spec-rel/022306aab.html 
     + Cats hire Miami (Ohio) coach to lead O-line
 
http://www.dailynorthwestern.com/vnews/display.v/ART/2006/02/24/43febc244d038 
     + McGee officially becomes Cats' offensive coordinator
 
http://www.pioneerlocal.com/cgi-bin/ppo-story/sports/current/ev/02-23-06-842787.
html 

     Northwestern Announces 2006 Football Schedule
      http://nusports.collegesports.com/sports/m-footbl/spec-rel/022306aaa.html 

GOLF

     Alice Kim Named Big Ten Golfer of the Week
      http://nusports.collegesports.com/sports/w-golf/spec-rel/022306aaa.html 

LACROSSE

     3 Cats on Tewaaraton Watch List
      http://northwestern.scout.com/2/502201.html 

SOFTBALL

     Northwestern scores another big series
      http://northwestern.scout.com/2/502201.html 

SWIMMING

     Wildcats Win Three Big Ten Titles at First Day of Championships
      http://nusports.collegesports.com/sports/m-swim/recaps/022406aaa.html 

     Freshman brings Northwestern Big Ten diving championship
 
http://www.pioneerlocal.com/cgi-bin/ppo-story/sports/current/ev/02-23-06-837477.
html 

TENNIS

     MEN
     Wildcats Welcome Pair of Conference Foes
      http://nusports.collegesports.com/sports/m-tennis/spec-rel/022306aac.html 

     WOMEN
     No. 6 Northwestern Travels East to Face a Pair of Top-10 Opponents
      http://nusports.collegesports.com/sports/w-tennis/spec-rel/022306aac.html 

Miscellany

     Ex-athletes sue NCAA over scholarship cap 
 
http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/rssclick/2006/football/ncaa/02/23/bc.ncaasuit.a
p/index.html?section=si_ncaaf 

Alumni

     J.A. Happ: Top Prospect #7: J.A. Happ
      http://story.scout.com/a.z?s=179&p=2&c=502066 
     $ PBN Q & A: J.A. Happ
      http://story.scout.com/a.z?s=179&p=2&c=502055 

     Luke Donald: This week: Accenture Match Play Championship
      http://www.worldgolfchampionships.com/ 

     Tim Johnson 
      http://www.pgatour.com/players/scorecard/466839/h078/2006 
     at the ING New Zealand PGA Championship
      http://www.pgatour.com/tournaments/h078 

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From NEONRye at aol.com  Fri Feb 24 14:22:55 2006
From: NEONRye at aol.com (NEONRye@aol.com)
Date: Fri Feb 24 14:26:37 2006
Subject: [NU Sports] Last Night's Win
Message-ID: <c4.36e630a8.3130c51f@aol.com>

OK, we have a very silent (too silent, some might say) List.  Here we  go and 
beat a team that is just out of the Top 25, and we beat them pretty  handily. 
 And on ESPN 2, no less.  Yet nary a word from any of  us.  Since I was a 
"Doubting Thomas" back in December when I saw the 'Cats  barely claw past Seton 
Hall in New Jersey, let me say that I found last night's  win over Bucky to be 
really impressive.  If we can beat the Lions tomorrow  night in Happy Valley, 
the NIT will be in range, which, if we make it, will make  for a successful 
hoops campaign and will certainly solidify Coach Carmody's  position and 
stature.  
 
I really like how the team is improving as the season progresses.   Their 
defense and rebounding was much better than what I saw back before  Christmas.  
And they are playing with poise and confidence that were sorely  lacking early 
in the season.  
 
I'm not suggesting that this team is going to walk off with any titles or  
glory, but surely we can all appreciate the pluck and grit they have  displayed. 
 Then why do we all seem to be so indifferent........Is it just  that we only 
care about the Purple and White on the gridiron?
 
Paul Levinson
 
 
From thehaze at earthlink.net  Fri Feb 24 18:35:32 2006
From: thehaze at earthlink.net (Jim Bendat)
Date: Fri Feb 24 18:39:22 2006
Subject: [NU Sports] Last Night's Win
In-Reply-To: <c4.36e630a8.3130c51f@aol.com>
References: <c4.36e630a8.3130c51f@aol.com>
Message-ID: <43FFA654.7040905@earthlink.net>

Paul makes a lot of valid points re the lack of comment on our 
basketball team.  I would say that last night's victory was pretty 
impressive, but on the whole, I have generally felt that our team is 
boring when we win and boring when we lose.  We recently beat Iowa by a 
score of 51-48.  I watched that game, too, and it was as boring as the 
final score would tend to indicate.  51-48 -- wasn't that the same exact 
score of our FOOTBALL victory over Wisconsin?!

We get excited about our football team, not only because we've been 
winning, but also because our football team is exciting.  Slowdown 
basketball just doesn't cut it with a lot of people who otherwise enjoy 
sports.  I would imagine that slowdown basketball also doesn't entice a 
whole lot of recruits to consider NU. 

We might make it to the NIT, but I have to admit I won't be impressed if 
we do.  We've been to the NIT before and, when all is said and done, who 
really cares about the NIT?  Schools like NU (referring to Duke, 
Stanford and Vanderbilt, to name some obvious ones) have succeeded in 
basketball.  Isn't 68 years of waiting to get to the NCAA tournament enough?

Jim Bendat


NEONRye@aol.com wrote:
> OK, we have a very silent (too silent, some might say) List.  Here we  go and 
> beat a team that is just out of the Top 25, and we beat them pretty  handily. 
>  And on ESPN 2, no less.  Yet nary a word from any of  us.  Since I was a 
> "Doubting Thomas" back in December when I saw the 'Cats  barely claw past Seton 
> Hall in New Jersey, let me say that I found last night's  win over Bucky to be 
> really impressive.  If we can beat the Lions tomorrow  night in Happy Valley, 
> the NIT will be in range, which, if we make it, will make  for a successful 
> hoops campaign and will certainly solidify Coach Carmody's  position and 
> stature.  
>  
> I really like how the team is improving as the season progresses.   Their 
> defense and rebounding was much better than what I saw back before  Christmas.  
> And they are playing with poise and confidence that were sorely  lacking early 
> in the season.  
>  
> I'm not suggesting that this team is going to walk off with any titles or  
> glory, but surely we can all appreciate the pluck and grit they have  displayed. 
>  Then why do we all seem to be so indifferent........Is it just  that we only 
> care about the Purple and White on the gridiron?
>  
> Paul Levinson
>  

From rstetson at capps-assoc.com  Fri Feb 24 15:32:30 2006
From: rstetson at capps-assoc.com (Roy Lamberton)
Date: Fri Feb 24 20:59:18 2006
Subject: [NU Sports] Last Night's Win
In-Reply-To: <c4.36e630a8.3130c51f@aol.com>
Message-ID: <000701c63989$d0ddafd0$6500a8c0@DAVIDXP>

> 
> OK, we have a very silent (too silent, some might say) List.  
> 
>  Then why do we all seem to be so indifferent........Is it 
> just  that we only 
> care about the Purple and White on the gridiron?
>  
> Paul Levinson

I can't even raise a couple of folks to chat during the games.

And I now have a chat room that will hold everyone who wants to come in [unlike
the old one that was limited to 25.]

I'll be at the save Chat place in front of my TV Saturday at 3:30 PM

Here's the link to the chat
http://client1.sigmachat.com/sc.pl?id=122893

BTW - did you guys see that we have 3 Lacrosse Cats on the Tewaareton Award
[Lacrosse Heisman] watch list this year?

Go Cats

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From sjtruog at yahoo.com  Fri Feb 24 23:39:05 2006
From: sjtruog at yahoo.com (SjT (Stephen J. Truog))
Date: Fri Feb 24 23:46:54 2006
Subject: [NU Sports] NU-Wisconsin
Message-ID: <20060225053905.9614.qmail@web52909.mail.yahoo.com>

Gotta admit that I forgot it was on TV with work and
all - darn! Hard to stay in the thick of Big Ten hoops
out here in Pac 10 land!

But I will disagree with the "boring" comment about
the style. I love the Princeton offense and think it
can be quite an exciting style of play to watch for
fans. The key is executing the fundamentals and we
seem to have finally figured out the free throws, so
it's a tough style to beat when things are clicking!

I will agree though on the NIT -- it's nice to see
postseason action (though it's not guaranteed with a
winning record - we've been snubbed before), but not a
huge step for NU hoops.

Maybe we're just cursed on the court? I mean, this was
set to be a big leap forward year for NU ... but then
TJ Parker makes an ill-advised decision to leave early
for the draft and Mike Thompson's departure was a big
blow. You just gotta wonder what might have been with
a senior point guard and a true big man in the post!
VV and Hachad have played some great games and VV
especially has become a true leader. But in a sport
where few teams have that senior leadership, having
all four of those guys on the court might have been
what we needed to get into that elusive dance.

But I guess it wasn't meant to be this year ... I
still think Carmody's a perfect fit for NU and the
same rule from football applies - any season where you
beat Iowa and Wisconsin is a GOOD season in my books
and sending the hated Hawkeyes and Behdgers out of
Welsh-Ryan with a big ole L in a year when both are
ranked and NCAA bound can't be all that bad!!:)

GO CATS!!!
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From Alan.Abrahamson at latimes.com  Sat Feb 25 06:47:17 2006
From: Alan.Abrahamson at latimes.com (Abrahamson, Alan)
Date: Sat Feb 25 06:55:16 2006
Subject: [NU Sports] basketball
Message-ID: <6A0419188B49A54C960893D230C268070CBEACCF@goose.latimes.com>

 If I may take a moment away from the 2006 Olympics and weigh in here from far-away Italy on the matter of the Northwestern men's basketball team:
 Seems to me the reason there's so little traffic on our list is because the team is not good, they haven't ever been good, it's not clear when they're going to be good ... so why get excited over what seems like a fluke win over a quality opponent?
 Each of the past few years has seen the men's basketball team deliver one win, maybe two wins, maybe even a couple more, over a ranked opponent. It's not that I don't appreciate such wins. But so what?
 It's consistent winning that counts. And the men's basketball team has a history of horridness. I say again: it is straight-out unacceptable that the Northwestern men's basketball team has never made the NCAA tournament.
 For those who may be wondering: I am not ragging on Carmody. I still believe he's the right fit for the university. 
 After all these years together on the same list, I hope, too, that everyone realizes my underlying expectation. I expect the men's basketball team -- like every other sport at Northwestern and just like the academic programs -- can and will demonstrate sustained excellence.
 Go Cats - Alan

From loomis3 at sbcglobal.net  Sat Feb 25 10:02:14 2006
From: loomis3 at sbcglobal.net (Frank F. Loomis III)
Date: Sat Feb 25 10:03:30 2006
Subject: [NU Sports] basketball
In-Reply-To: <6A0419188B49A54C960893D230C268070CBEACCF@goose.latimes.com>
Message-ID: <20060225160214.7702.qmail@web81711.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

  Touche, Alan! 
   
  As usual, you always make sense.
   
  I sure do agree with you about the basketball program. There?s something amiss. I don?t know what, but you?re right, it?s not the coach. Carmondy is a fit. 
   
  There?s also something wrong with our football program. But it is the coach. His methods beg excellence and consistency.  At times, he?s just plain inept. Knocking off biggies now and then and having three six-win seasons in a row do not pass muster. His-seven-year-losing record palpably and conclusively reflects that with him, at best we?re going to border 500.
   
  That?s not good enough. Northwestern should demand excellence, if not in results, in effort. We?re not getting that with Walker. I could go on and on detailing shortcomings. But I won?t bother. We all know them.
   
  Most of us opt to overlook them, because after all we?re Northwestern. "Geez, be happy with 500.  For us, that's winning the national championship!  We can't expect excellence in our coaching. That only applies to our academics. There we demand it and get it." 
   
  But we did get it in lacrosse coaching. Was that just luck? Could have been, but nonetheless, it shows that coaching excellence is obtainable for us. But like we do with academics, we have to demand and assiduously pursue it. 
   
  So, to put our football program where it belongs, we need an Amonte-Hiller (spelling?) type football coach. 
   
  Or putting it another way, we got coaching excellence for lacrosse, so, why not demand and work our butts off to get it for football as well?
   
  Finally: Alan, we?re so proud of you and your reporting from Italy. I keep pointing at the TV and saying: "Alan is a Northwestern grad!" 
   
  Frank Loomis 


"Abrahamson, Alan" <Alan.Abrahamson@latimes.com> wrote:  If I may take a moment away from the 2006 Olympics and weigh in here from far-away Italy on the matter of the Northwestern men's basketball team:
Seems to me the reason there's so little traffic on our list is because the team is not good, they haven't ever been good, it's not clear when they're going to be good ... so why get excited over what seems like a fluke win over a quality opponent?
Each of the past few years has seen the men's basketball team deliver one win, maybe two wins, maybe even a couple more, over a ranked opponent. It's not that I don't appreciate such wins. But so what?
It's consistent winning that counts. And the men's basketball team has a history of horridness. I say again: it is straight-out unacceptable that the Northwestern men's basketball team has never made the NCAA tournament.
For those who may be wondering: I am not ragging on Carmody. I still believe he's the right fit for the university. 
After all these years together on the same list, I hope, too, that everyone realizes my underlying expectation. I expect the men's basketball team -- like every other sport at Northwestern and just like the academic programs -- can and will demonstrate sustained excellence.
Go Cats - Alan

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From thehaze at earthlink.net  Sat Feb 25 17:09:36 2006
From: thehaze at earthlink.net (Jim Bendat)
Date: Sat Feb 25 17:13:34 2006
Subject: [NU Sports] Carmody
Message-ID: <4400E3B0.1010705@earthlink.net>

We lost another one today, 68-55 to Penn State.  We're now at .500, 
still having a possible chance at the NIT.  For NU, I guess that's an 
accomplishment in basketball.

A number of people on the list -- people whose opinions are worth 
respecting -- have indicated their belief that Carmody is the right man 
for the job at NU, some calling him a "perfect fit."

Can you explain why you feel this way about him?  He seems like a good 
guy, the players are graduating, our teams play decent fundamentals.  
But he's been here for six years.  With our style of play, we have 
difficulty recruiting good players.  He's had to find players from other 
countries to fill our roster spots.  How are things going to improve? 

Jim B.

From jonathanwhodges at gmail.com  Sat Feb 25 18:15:08 2006
From: jonathanwhodges at gmail.com (Jonathan Hodges)
Date: Sat Feb 25 18:16:19 2006
Subject: [NU Sports] Carmody
In-Reply-To: <4400E3B0.1010705@earthlink.net>
References: <4400E3B0.1010705@earthlink.net>
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What has been typical of NU the past few years was evident again today
- NU picks up a big win (usually at home) over a top Big Ten school
then follows up with a poor performance.  This has happened 2 times
this year against PSU.  First, the 'Cats had a chance to go 3-0 in the
Big Ten and dropped one at home to PSU.

Now, after beating the Badgers handily at home, they drop a big road
game that could have put them well into NIT consideration.  Instead,
Seacat was the only offensive spark for the 'Cats - Vukusic was once
again well covered and esentially shut down, Hachad went back to his
old inconsistent self (possibly due to PSU's zone).  The only way to
break the zone they were running was to hit 3's, and Seacat did that,
although it was too late.  The 'Cats were within 6 points until they
couldn't knock down a shot and watched PSU build a 19 point lead at
the end.

A couple observations:

- The 'Cats can never seem to put together a long enough winning
streak to push into the postseason.  They can pick up a few wins, a
couple marquee wins, but they can never build a long winning streak -
even in nonconference play.  The teams that make it to the tourney get
hot - in the conference tourneys or during conference play in order to
pick up those needed wins.  NU must overcome this in order to reach
the postseason in any form.

- Possibly a cause for the first point, NU rarely has multiple players
step up in a game.  Also, NU has lacked depth almost all of Carmody's
tenure (this year it was due to Parker leaving and Thompson's
unfortunate situation); he rarely has a bench full of players he could
confidently put on the court.  This leaves the starting 5 worn down as
the season goes on, and one big loss puts the brakes on any progress. 
Today we saw that Seacat was the only one stepping up at the end -
Hachad and Vukusic were quiet.  If NU had that deep bench, maybe they
could run off a long win streak, but we haven't had that deep bench
recently.

- Style of play: When executed well from the beginning of the game, NU
can put up big wins.  When the other team tries to play our style, the
'Cats succeed.  When the other team uses the fast break and size to
outplay the 'Cats, they get beat (like today - when they mostly did it
by size).  The 'Cats 1-3-1 defense has worked well, as long as the
other team can't get it inside to the big guns.  The offense worked
well with Wisconsin who tried to beat us at our own game, but against
PSU's zone it fizzled.  Also, if the outside shot gets cold, it is
doomsday.

Despite these observations, I think Carmody is a quality coach and has
implemented a system that can succeed (some sort of consistency by
finishing around .500 every year and pulling off a decent conference
record while doing a great job defending the home court). 
Unfortunately, he has had to deal with many untimely injuries and/or
players leaving.  There is hope, though, seeing the freshmen this year
(Williams, Moore) who are very solid.  Hopefully Carmody can build the
team with more players like these (and get some good big men) and see
continued improvement.  Remember that he didn't have much left when he
arrived (outside of Jitim Young) after the mass exodus during/after
O'Neill's tenure.

Jonathan


On 2/25/06, Jim Bendat <thehaze@earthlink.net> wrote:
> We lost another one today, 68-55 to Penn State.  We're now at .500,
> still having a possible chance at the NIT.  For NU, I guess that's an
> accomplishment in basketball.
>
> A number of people on the list -- people whose opinions are worth
> respecting -- have indicated their belief that Carmody is the right man
> for the job at NU, some calling him a "perfect fit."
>
> Can you explain why you feel this way about him?  He seems like a good
> guy, the players are graduating, our teams play decent fundamentals.
> But he's been here for six years.  With our style of play, we have
> difficulty recruiting good players.  He's had to find players from other
> countries to fill our roster spots.  How are things going to improve?
>
> Jim B.
>
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From sjtruog at yahoo.com  Sat Feb 25 20:01:39 2006
From: sjtruog at yahoo.com (SjT (Stephen J. Truog))
Date: Sat Feb 25 20:02:48 2006
Subject: [NU Sports] Carmody
In-Reply-To: <fcb3ee270602251615s672cee0w918a5fbd7e19c594@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <20060226020139.17462.qmail@web52906.mail.yahoo.com>

I'm not trying to trash Carmody - I do think he is
both a class act and a quality coach and I have faith
that he will get NU into the NCAAs, but that it's a
massive task to build a hoops program in Evanston from
scratch - curses or whatever it is.

I am, however, intrigued by the difference in
attitudes of list members toward our two "money sport"
coaches. We fall all over ourselves to praise Carmody
and yet some can't even resist taking a swipe at
Walker in a basketball post. Why is this?

Walker's finished 3rd and 4th in the Big Ten the past
two seasons, taken the Cats to three bowl games and
accomplished three straight 6-win seasons. Carmody, by
contrast, has never finished in the upper division of
the Big Ten, taken us to one (is it one or am I
including the snub?) postseason appearance and hasn't
reached 17-18 wins in Evanston, I believe.

Yet we can't wait to trash Walker while praising
Carmody. Both seem to be honest, good individuals who
run solid programs and graduate their players. They're
clearly innovators who are trying anything they can
think of -- new offensive schemes or recruiting
worldwide -- to try and win at a school with no
history of winning, so the effort and drive are there.
And they're not using NU as a stepping stone either to
gaze at greener grass and bigger paydays.

Is it because Walker won't kiss the butt of some
alumni and isn't as engaging of a speaker? Or is it
something I'm missing. Because really, folks, if we're
judging a football or basketball coach by how many
schmoozefests they hold with alumni and how
charismatically they tell a story instead of coaching,
then that's pretty sad.

As for the Carmody love, I think it comes from the
recognition that he is tackling a monumental task by
trying to do something never done before. We've had
some pretty good coaches on the sidelines at
Welsh-Ryan who have made names for themselves in
college and pros and coached in NCAA final fours and
NBA finals. So this is a big job. And Carmody's class
and personality (especially coming after, and
contrasting to, Kevin O'Neill) have probably won him
some bonus points, too.

That being said, when VV and Hachad are gone next
year, things could get rough and it could be a cold,
long winter in Welsh-Ryan. So if those fans on the
anti-Walker kick put their pigskin hatchets in
hibernation and look toward the basketball court, they
may find more fuel for their fire and make Bill's seat
truly a hot one. Again, not that I want this to
happen, just that I'm kind of surprised it hasn't
already. Maybe Carmody should send Walker a thank-you
note for keeping the heat off for so long.:)

As for the NIT this year, we obviously must beat Minny
at home and if we can beat OSU -- certainly within
reach -- at home, we make a good case. If not, it's
off to the tourney and while the Big Ten is plenty
deep this year, there is no true powerhouse and it
will probably be the most wide open Big Ten tournament
yet, so who knows what could happen if we can just
avoid those darn Illini on our side of the bracket!:)

GO CATS!!!
-SjT

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From thehaze at earthlink.net  Sat Feb 25 23:15:14 2006
From: thehaze at earthlink.net (Jim Bendat)
Date: Sat Feb 25 23:36:51 2006
Subject: [NU Sports] NU-Nevada game to conflict with Rosh Hashanah
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So, I see that NU announced its football schedule this past week.  We 
already knew the 12 games, but the one change is the date of the game at 
Nevada.  Previously scheduled for September 23rd, that game has now been 
moved up to Friday night September 22nd and will be televised by ESPN2.

That Friday night is the first night of Rosh Hashanah.  This change 
doesn't sit well with me at all.  I wonder whether our administration 
even bothered to check out the possibility of a conflict with a 
significant religious holiday.

Jim B.

From jonathanwhodges at gmail.com  Sun Feb 26 00:03:43 2006
From: jonathanwhodges at gmail.com (Jonathan Hodges)
Date: Sun Feb 26 00:04:48 2006
Subject: [NU Sports] NU-Nevada game to conflict with Rosh Hashanah
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I'm sure he Nevada athletic department had more to do with the
scheduling of the game to Friday, but I wouldn't see the NU AD nixing
a nationally televised date for many reasons.  Especially since
college football is all about the money, as we all know by now.  NU's
academic schedule does get adjusted for some holidays (when the Jewish
high holidays fall later in the year, the start of fall quarter gets
pushed back a little), although the university still does not make it
an official holiday (Good Friday/Easter weekend also gives no extra
holidays unless it happens to fall during spring break).  So many
sports are purposely scheduled on holidays now (lots of football on
Thanksgiving, basketball on Christmas, more football on New Years),
that I don't think they really give much regard to time spent by
people doing things other than watching tv on any given holiday.

Jonathan


On 2/25/06, Jim Bendat <thehaze@earthlink.net> wrote:
> http://nusports.collegesports.com/sports/m-footbl/spec-rel/022306aaa.html
>
> So, I see that NU announced its football schedule this past week.  We
> already knew the 12 games, but the one change is the date of the game at
> Nevada.  Previously scheduled for September 23rd, that game has now been
> moved up to Friday night September 22nd and will be televised by ESPN2.
>
> That Friday night is the first night of Rosh Hashanah.  This change
> doesn't sit well with me at all.  I wonder whether our administration
> even bothered to check out the possibility of a conflict with a
> significant religious holiday.
>
> Jim B.
>
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From johnl at mac.com  Sun Feb 26 15:13:38 2006
From: johnl at mac.com (John Labbe)
Date: Sun Feb 26 15:13:50 2006
Subject: [NU Sports] NU-Nevada game to conflict with Rosh Hashanah
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Whether they checked for a conflict or not, I don't know, but I don't see that it would have mattered, as Jonathan points out.  For better or for worse, I can't think of any religious holidays when college games aren't played.  Just last year, games in the NCAA tournament were played on every single day of the Christian "High Holy" days, i.e., Holy Thursday, Good Friday, Holy Saturday, and Easter Sunday.  And bowl games are routinely played on Christmas Eve and Christmas Day.  I'd be surprised to learn that other spring sports such as tennis, baseball, softball, golf, etc. are slowed down by the Easter holiday.

Again, maybe they should, but they don't.

I really wish we weren't playing a game on a Friday night, though.  Now we have to deal with the bad press again about interfering with high school games.  And the last time we played on a Friday night we had an aweful season (2001), not to mention the other bad things I associate with that season (Rashidi Wheeler, 9-11).


On Sunday, February 26, 2006, at 01:06AM, Jonathan Hodges <jonathanwhodges@gmail.com> wrote:

>I'm sure he Nevada athletic department had more to do with the
>scheduling of the game to Friday, but I wouldn't see the NU AD nixing
>a nationally televised date for many reasons.  Especially since
>college football is all about the money, as we all know by now.  NU's
>academic schedule does get adjusted for some holidays (when the Jewish
>high holidays fall later in the year, the start of fall quarter gets
>pushed back a little), although the university still does not make it
>an official holiday (Good Friday/Easter weekend also gives no extra
>holidays unless it happens to fall during spring break).  So many
>sports are purposely scheduled on holidays now (lots of football on
>Thanksgiving, basketball on Christmas, more football on New Years),
>that I don't think they really give much regard to time spent by
>people doing things other than watching tv on any given holiday.
>
>Jonathan
>
>
>On 2/25/06, Jim Bendat <thehaze@earthlink.net> wrote:
>> http://nusports.collegesports.com/sports/m-footbl/spec-rel/022306aaa.html
>>
>> So, I see that NU announced its football schedule this past week.  We
>> already knew the 12 games, but the one change is the date of the game at
>> Nevada.  Previously scheduled for September 23rd, that game has now been
>> moved up to Friday night September 22nd and will be televised by ESPN2.
>>
>> That Friday night is the first night of Rosh Hashanah.  This change
>> doesn't sit well with me at all.  I wonder whether our administration
>> even bothered to check out the possibility of a conflict with a
>> significant religious holiday.
>>
>> Jim B.
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> nwu-sports site list
>> nwu-sports@tssi.com
>> http://romaine.tssi.com/mailman/listinfo/nwu-sports
>>
>
>
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>829 Foster St. Apt. 401
>Evanston, IL  60201-3259
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From cherron604 at aol.com  Sun Feb 26 16:12:20 2006
From: cherron604 at aol.com (cherron604@aol.com)
Date: Sun Feb 26 16:13:57 2006
Subject: [NU Sports] Last Night's Win
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With all due respect, I think it is less an issue of our football team being 'exciting' and our basketball team being 'boring'.  In either sport, I would always accept a boring victory over an exciting defeat.  Also, the falling attendance figures in NU football might tend to deduct credence from the oft-stated 'excitement' defense (i.e. if NU football is so exciting, why is attendance so bad ?)
 
Instead, it is probably a combination of heartbreak (NU hoops have raised our hopes for years, with wins over good teams followed, almost invariably, by losses to less stellar opponents) and the fact that through the BF, RB, KO and BC eras, almost no one on the list has ever had that much passion for the basketball team.  As was discussed earlier, football posts have almost always outnumbered basketball posts by a very big margin.
 
Chuck Herron   Tech '85 
 
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Sent: Fri, 24 Feb 2006 16:35:32 -0800
Subject: Re: [NU Sports] Last Night's Win


Paul makes a lot of valid points re the lack of comment on our basketball team. I would say that last night's victory was pretty impressive, but on the whole, I have generally felt that our team is boring when we win and boring when we lose. We recently beat Iowa by a score of 51-48. I watched that game, too, and it was as boring as the final score would tend to indicate. 51-48 -- wasn't that the same exact score of our FOOTBALL victory over Wisconsin?! 
 
We get excited about our football team, not only because we've been winning, but also because our football team is exciting. Slowdown basketball just doesn't cut it with a lot of people who otherwise enjoy sports. I would imagine that slowdown basketball also doesn't entice a whole lot of recruits to consider NU.  
We might make it to the NIT, but I have to admit I won't be impressed if we do. We've been to the NIT before and, when all is said and done, who really cares about the NIT? Schools like NU (referring to Duke, Stanford and Vanderbilt, to name some obvious ones) have succeeded in basketball. Isn't 68 years of waiting to get to the NCAA tournament enough? 
 
Jim Bendat 
 
NEONRye@aol.com wrote: 
> OK, we have a very silent (too silent, some might say) List. Here we go and > beat a team that is just out of the Top 25, and we beat them pretty handily. > And on ESPN 2, no less. Yet nary a word from any of us. Since I was a > "Doubting Thomas" back in December when I saw the 'Cats barely claw past Seton > Hall in New Jersey, let me say that I found last night's win over Bucky to be > really impressive. If we can beat the Lions tomorrow night in Happy Valley, > the NIT will be in range, which, if we make it, will make for a successful > hoops campaign and will certainly solidify Coach Carmody's position and > stature. > > I really like how the team is improving as the season progresses. Their > defense and rebounding was much better than what I saw back before Christmas. > And they are playing with poise and confidence that were sorely lacking early > in the season. > > I'm not suggesting that this team is going to walk off with any titles or > glory, but surely we can a!
ll appreciate the pluck and grit they have displayed. > Then why do we all seem to be so indifferent........Is it just that we only > care about the Purple and White on the gridiron? 
> > Paul Levinson 
>  
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From whosonfirst81 at yahoo.com  Sun Feb 26 16:12:49 2006
From: whosonfirst81 at yahoo.com (Ben Adler)
Date: Sun Feb 26 16:14:06 2006
Subject: [NU Sports] NU-Nevada game to conflict with Rosh Hashanah
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It's not unprecedented.  NU hosted TCU on Rosh HaShana in 2002 -- and that was a Saturday.

John Labbe <johnl@mac.com> wrote:  Whether they checked for a conflict or not, I don't know, but I don't see that it would have mattered, as Jonathan points out. For better or for worse, I can't think of any religious holidays when college games aren't played. Just last year, games in the NCAA tournament were played on every single day of the Christian "High Holy" days, i.e., Holy Thursday, Good Friday, Holy Saturday, and Easter Sunday. And bowl games are routinely played on Christmas Eve and Christmas Day. I'd be surprised to learn that other spring sports such as tennis, baseball, softball, golf, etc. are slowed down by the Easter holiday.

Again, maybe they should, but they don't.

I really wish we weren't playing a game on a Friday night, though. Now we have to deal with the bad press again about interfering with high school games. And the last time we played on a Friday night we had an aweful season (2001), not to mention the other bad things I associate with that season (Rashidi Wheeler, 9-11).


On Sunday, February 26, 2006, at 01:06AM, Jonathan Hodges wrote:

>I'm sure he Nevada athletic department had more to do with the
>scheduling of the game to Friday, but I wouldn't see the NU AD nixing
>a nationally televised date for many reasons. Especially since
>college football is all about the money, as we all know by now. NU's
>academic schedule does get adjusted for some holidays (when the Jewish
>high holidays fall later in the year, the start of fall quarter gets
>pushed back a little), although the university still does not make it
>an official holiday (Good Friday/Easter weekend also gives no extra
>holidays unless it happens to fall during spring break). So many
>sports are purposely scheduled on holidays now (lots of football on
>Thanksgiving, basketball on Christmas, more football on New Years),
>that I don't think they really give much regard to time spent by
>people doing things other than watching tv on any given holiday.
>
>Jonathan
>
>
>On 2/25/06, Jim Bendat wrote:
>> http://nusports.collegesports.com/sports/m-footbl/spec-rel/022306aaa.html
>>
>> So, I see that NU announced its football schedule this past week. We
>> already knew the 12 games, but the one change is the date of the game at
>> Nevada. Previously scheduled for September 23rd, that game has now been
>> moved up to Friday night September 22nd and will be televised by ESPN2.
>>
>> That Friday night is the first night of Rosh Hashanah. This change
>> doesn't sit well with me at all. I wonder whether our administration
>> even bothered to check out the possibility of a conflict with a
>> significant religious holiday.
>>
>> Jim B.
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> nwu-sports site list
>> nwu-sports@tssi.com
>> http://romaine.tssi.com/mailman/listinfo/nwu-sports
>>
>
>
>--
>Jonathan W. Hodges
>829 Foster St. Apt. 401
>Evanston, IL 60201-3259
>(847) 736-2449
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>http://jhodges.org
>
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From NEONRye at aol.com  Sun Feb 26 16:56:25 2006
From: NEONRye at aol.com (NEONRye@aol.com)
Date: Sun Feb 26 17:15:13 2006
Subject: [NU Sports] NU-Nevada game to conflict with Rosh Hashanah
Message-ID: <21b.8c9fa5c.31338c19@aol.com>

I have to weigh in on this one, being Jewish and having a very strong  
Freshman Year memory to relate that bears on this subject.
 
When I went out to NU  after growing up in Great Neck, LI (a heavily  Jewish 
suburban community), I dove headlong into an "assimilation" mode, where I  
sought not to hide my religious background, but wasn't always able to juggle the  
conflicting impulses of wanting to "fit in" among the diverse student body in 
 Evanston.  I pledged a mostly non-Jewish fraternity (Theta Delta Chi), from  
which I later dropped out at the end of my freshman year.  Through a frat  
party I met a girl from Minnesota, whom I started dating.  Of course, she  
wasn't Jewish, in keeping with my theme.
 
I went to services at Cahn Auditorium on Rosh Hashana--like a good Jewish  
boy.:-)   And then came Yom Kippur--the holiest day on the Jewish  calendar.  
And once again, I went to services at Cahn.  But with Yom  Kippur came a "Sandy 
Koufax-like" conflict for Yours Truly.  The 'Cats, led  by Mike Adamle, and 
playing quite well at the time (leading the Big Ten, with  OSU, if I am not 
mistaken) were scheduled to play a home game that afternoon,  and "Cathy's" 
parents were coming down for the game, which I think was against  their beloved 
Gophers.  
 
Well, I couldn't resist going to the game and watching it with Cathy and  her 
folks--and that's just what I did.  We won in a rout--48-0 if memory  serves. 
 But I have carried the guilt (and there's nothing like "Jewish  guilt" for 
those keeping score at home) for more than 30 years.  In fact, I  actually 
spoke about this situation to my entire Synagogue Congregation about 5  years ago 
when called upon to give sort of a "lay" sermon on Yom Kippur by our  
then-Rabbi, Rachel Mikva (the daughter of our former Congressman in Evanston,  Abner 
Mikva).
 
So, the moral of the story is:  NU has always scheduled games on the  Jewish  
High Holidays, for better or worse, so I wouldn't read to much into  the 
rescheduling of the Nevada game.
 
 
Northwestern may have had some serious issues as a community in years past  
with regards to its hospitability  to certain ethnic, racial and religious  
groups, but I would like to believe that our alma mater is now a tolerant place  
with as heterogeneous a student body as can be found in any premier academic  
institution in this country.   
 
Hope I haven't sounded too preachy here. but I thought this debate should  
not get out of hand.
 
 
Paul Levinson
From cherron604 at aol.com  Sun Feb 26 18:41:34 2006
From: cherron604 at aol.com (cherron604@aol.com)
Date: Sun Feb 26 18:43:00 2006
Subject: [NU Sports] NU-Nevada game to conflict with Rosh Hashanah
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Another problem with Friday football is that additional classroom time would have to be missed.
 
However, as we all know, ESPN (or TV in general) could say 'play this game at 3am on Sunday', and every (money-driven) athletic department in the country would say 'yes, sir'.
 
For an excellent discussion of how intercollegiate football lost its innocence to television, grab Keith Dunnavant's 'The Fifty-Year Seduction'.
 
Chuck Herron   Tech '85
 
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From: Ben Adler <whosonfirst81@yahoo.com>
To: John Labbe <johnl@mac.com>; nwu-sports@tssi.com
Sent: Sun, 26 Feb 2006 14:12:49 -0800 (PST)
Subject: Re: [NU Sports] NU-Nevada game to conflict with Rosh Hashanah


It's not unprecedented.  NU hosted TCU on Rosh HaShana in 2002 -- and that was a 
Saturday.

John Labbe <johnl@mac.com> wrote:  Whether they checked for a conflict or not, I 
don't know, but I don't see that it would have mattered, as Jonathan points out. 
For better or for worse, I can't think of any religious holidays when college 
games aren't played. Just last year, games in the NCAA tournament were played on 
every single day of the Christian "High Holy" days, i.e., Holy Thursday, Good 
Friday, Holy Saturday, and Easter Sunday. And bowl games are routinely played on 
Christmas Eve and Christmas Day. I'd be surprised to learn that other spring 
sports such as tennis, baseball, softball, golf, etc. are slowed down by the 
Easter holiday.

Again, maybe they should, but they don't.

I really wish we weren't playing a game on a Friday night, though. Now we have 
to deal with the bad press again about interfering with high school games. And 
the last time we played on a Friday night we had an aweful season (2001), not to 
mention the other bad things I associate with that season (Rashidi Wheeler, 
9-11).


On Sunday, February 26, 2006, at 01:06AM, Jonathan Hodges wrote:

>I'm sure he Nevada athletic department had more to do with the
>scheduling of the game to Friday, but I wouldn't see the NU AD nixing
>a nationally televised date for many reasons. Especially since
>college football is all about the money, as we all know by now. NU's
>academic schedule does get adjusted for some holidays (when the Jewish
>high holidays fall later in the year, the start of fall quarter gets
>pushed back a little), although the university still does not make it
>an official holiday (Good Friday/Easter weekend also gives no extra
>holidays unless it happens to fall during spring break). So many
>sports are purposely scheduled on holidays now (lots of football on
>Thanksgiving, basketball on Christmas, more football on New Years),
>that I don't think they really give much regard to time spent by
>people doing things other than watching tv on any given holiday.
>
>Jonathan
>
>
>On 2/25/06, Jim Bendat wrote:
>> http://nusports.collegesports.com/sports/m-footbl/spec-rel/022306aaa.html
>>
>> So, I see that NU announced its football schedule this past week. We
>> already knew the 12 games, but the one change is the date of the game at
>> Nevada. Previously scheduled for September 23rd, that game has now been
>> moved up to Friday night September 22nd and will be televised by ESPN2.
>>
>> That Friday night is the first night of Rosh Hashanah. This change
>> doesn't sit well with me at all. I wonder whether our administration
>> even bothered to check out the possibility of a conflict with a
>> significant religious holiday.
>>
>> Jim B.
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> nwu-sports site list
>> nwu-sports@tssi.com
>> http://romaine.tssi.com/mailman/listinfo/nwu-sports
>>
>
>
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From bwdolphin146 at yahoo.com  Sun Feb 26 18:57:57 2006
From: bwdolphin146 at yahoo.com (Brad Wilson)
Date: Sun Feb 26 18:59:10 2006
Subject: [NU Sports] hoops and walker
Message-ID: <20060227005757.35050.qmail@web51312.mail.yahoo.com>

Gee, Frank Loomis doesn't like Randy Walker. Point
taken. Point understood. Point bludgeoned to death.
Tell you what, Frank, why don't you wait to post until
you have something different to say? That would be
news. I am sick of the lunatic, relentless negativity.
It was appropriate when NU hadn't had a winning season
in 25 years. It is not now. Criticism is always
welcome, singleminded, obessive near-hatred is not. 

Especially when, as SjT points out, Carmody gets a
free pass for continued mediocity, inconsistency and
outright failure. That is hard for me to say, because
I have a year's personal experience with Carmody and
like him as a person and a coach. But is becoming
increasingly clear that he may not be the right fit
for NU.

Carmody's kids graduate and there are no off-court
embarrassments that hurt so many other teams. Good.
They occasionally beat a Wisconsin or Iowa. Very good!

But that's not quite enough. It is generally
established that turning around a pitiful hoops
program can be done in much less time, with much less
pain, than football. Take a look at Wisconsin --
before Dick Bennett they were awful at hoops. Now
they're a Top-25 regular. Ohio State went from
probation-inflicted awfulness to the top of the
league. Two years ago La Salle was the laughingstock
of the Atlantic 10 -- now they're one of its top
teams. Such examples abound.

And yet in Evanston it's 14-14, 13-15, etc, etc. As
usual the team is totally dependent on the 3-point
shot and has no inside game on offense (NU shot 3 free
throws ALL GAME at Penn State Saturday) or defense.
The result is the occasional nice win when we shoot
well followed by the two or three losses when we
don't. 

To me, that's not good enough. And it shouldn't be
good enough for those who lambaste Walker for
upper-echelon BT finishes and postseason appearances
that the hoops team can only dream of. Why the double
standard? Got me.

Brad Wilson 






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From cherron604 at aol.com  Sun Feb 26 19:05:30 2006
From: cherron604 at aol.com (cherron604@aol.com)
Date: Sun Feb 26 19:24:27 2006
Subject: [NU Sports] hoops and walker
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It is strange, and somewhat hard to figure, given their recent results...
 
But ask 100 'basketball experts', and 95 of them will say that BC is 'very good', 'brilliant' or 'a genius'.
 
Ask 100 football experts, and most will say RW is 'competent', 'acceptable'.
 
I would venture to guess that almost none of the experts would rate him as highly as Carmody.
 
Perhaps not fair, but that is the way of the world.
 
Chuck Herron   Tech '85
 
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Sent: Sun, 26 Feb 2006 16:57:57 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [NU Sports] hoops and walker


Gee, Frank Loomis doesn't like Randy Walker. Point
taken. Point understood. Point bludgeoned to death.
Tell you what, Frank, why don't you wait to post until
you have something different to say? That would be
news. I am sick of the lunatic, relentless negativity.
It was appropriate when NU hadn't had a winning season
in 25 years. It is not now. Criticism is always
welcome, singleminded, obessive near-hatred is not. 

Especially when, as SjT points out, Carmody gets a
free pass for continued mediocity, inconsistency and
outright failure. That is hard for me to say, because
I have a year's personal experience with Carmody and
like him as a person and a coach. But is becoming
increasingly clear that he may not be the right fit
for NU.

Carmody's kids graduate and there are no off-court
embarrassments that hurt so many other teams. Good.
They occasionally beat a Wisconsin or Iowa. Very good!

But that's not quite enough. It is generally
established that turning around a pitiful hoops
program can be done in much less time, with much less
pain, than football. Take a look at Wisconsin --
before Dick Bennett they were awful at hoops. Now
they're a Top-25 regular. Ohio State went from
probation-inflicted awfulness to the top of the
league. Two years ago La Salle was the laughingstock
of the Atlantic 10 -- now they're one of its top
teams. Such examples abound.

And yet in Evanston it's 14-14, 13-15, etc, etc. As
usual the team is totally dependent on the 3-point
shot and has no inside game on offense (NU shot 3 free
throws ALL GAME at Penn State Saturday) or defense.
The result is the occasional nice win when we shoot
well followed by the two or three losses when we
don't. 

To me, that's not good enough. And it shouldn't be
good enough for those who lambaste Walker for
upper-echelon BT finishes and postseason appearances
that the hoops team can only dream of. Why the double
standard? Got me.

Brad Wilson 






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you must make some kind of effort, and you get more than you had before." -- 
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From clzahn at mindspring.com  Sun Feb 26 20:13:34 2006
From: clzahn at mindspring.com (Clark Zahn)
Date: Sun Feb 26 20:17:29 2006
Subject: [NU Sports] hoops and walker
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-----Original Message-----
>From: cherron604@aol.com
>Sent: Feb 26, 2006 5:05 PM
>To: bwdolphin146@yahoo.com, nwu-sports@tssi.com
>Subject: Re: [NU Sports] hoops and walker
>
>It is strange, and somewhat hard to figure, given their recent results...
> 
>But ask 100 'basketball experts', and 95 of them will say that BC is 'very good', 'brilliant' or 'a genius'.
> 
>Ask 100 football experts, and most will say RW is 'competent', 'acceptable'.
> 
>I would venture to guess that almost none of the experts would rate him as highly as Carmody.
> 
>Perhaps not fair, but that is the way of the world.
> 
>Chuck Herron   Tech '85
> 


BC had significant success at Princeton.  RW had success at a lower level school.

In both cases they have suffered from the usual problem of lack of depth.  Both the BB and FB programs lost some key players to injury or early departure and couldn't recover.  The big name schools have guys sitting on the bench who are almost as good as the starters.

I would think that it should be easier to build up the BB program, however.


Clark Zahn



From sjtruog at yahoo.com  Sun Feb 26 21:16:52 2006
From: sjtruog at yahoo.com (SjT (Stephen J. Truog))
Date: Sun Feb 26 21:18:03 2006
Subject: [NU Sports] Chuck times two
In-Reply-To: <8C8094DB1F41978-338-681D@FWM-D04.sysops.aol.com>
Message-ID: <20060227031652.3801.qmail@web52908.mail.yahoo.com>

Interesting post on the football/basketball question,
Chuck. I remember a few years back at work when we
were snubbed by the NIT and someone tried to rib me
about it and I replied -- with a straight face -- that
we were a football school anyway.:) And while we may
not be pigskin crazy like folks in some other places,
it is a worth noting that football is king -- as much
of a king as you can be at NU -- in Evanston. On the
list, in town and campus enthusiasm, etc. So perhaps
that's the reason. I really hope it's that and not
some vendetta.

As for the Friday football post ...

> Another problem with Friday football is that
> additional classroom time would have to be missed.

Will we miss class? I'm not sure NU won't still be in
new student week then with the late start. In any
case, it's not ideal, but it does get us more TV
exposure. At least we don't totally have to screw up
our schedule with Thursday, Friday and even Tuesday
games like the smaller conferences have done in past
years.

GO CATS!!!
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From sjtruog at yahoo.com  Sun Feb 26 21:24:56 2006
From: sjtruog at yahoo.com (SjT (Stephen J. Truog))
Date: Sun Feb 26 21:27:04 2006
Subject: [NU Sports] hoops and walker
In-Reply-To: <20060227005757.35050.qmail@web51312.mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <20060227032456.27884.qmail@web52910.mail.yahoo.com>

> Especially when, as SjT points out, Carmody gets a
> free pass for continued mediocity, inconsistency and
> outright failure. That is hard for me to say,

See, this is why I was reluctant to post that -- just
to clear it up, I am not NOT NOT calling for Carmody's
head and I maintain that he is a good fit for the
sidelines in Evanston. I was merely commenting how
some folks are so fixated on firing the football coach
that they've given Carmody -- who has a worse resume
in Evanston than Walker by any measure -- a free pass.

> pain, than football. Take a look at Wisconsin --
> before Dick Bennett they were awful at hoops. Now
> they're a Top-25 regular. Ohio State went from

Well, not quite. They were NCAA contenders pre-Bennett
in the mid-90s with Michael Finely and Rashard
Griffith. But again, it helps to be a state university
with a big alumni base to pack that old barn called
the Fieldhouse pre Kohl Center (our attendance figures
at Welsh-Ryan are pretty poor - which is sad because
when that place is packed, it ROCKS!).

With so many kids leaving early, college basketball
has been turned upside down in recent years and
recruiting is a really tough game and risky. The
smaller names that make runs in March seem to have a
solid core of seniors -- something we could have had
this year if bad luck hadn't hit Thompson and Parker
hadn't been a idiot. But the lack of depth really
showed when the bad luck hit. Still, I think Carmody
deserves a little longer to build this program from
scratch.

GO CATS!!!
-SjT

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From szeller at comcast.net  Sun Feb 26 21:50:43 2006
From: szeller at comcast.net (szeller@comcast.net)
Date: Sun Feb 26 21:51:32 2006
Subject: [NU Sports] hoops and walker
Message-ID: <022720060350.15761.4402771300046FAA00003D9122007503309D0A04040A969C@comcast.net>

One thing missing from this discussion has been the big hope for the future in terms of depth and quality; namely, the basketball signees for the coming year. This looks like an outstanding class, and NU has a great shot at one of the best remaining unsigned players -- if he is landed, this might be the top basketball recruiting year in NU history. He would join two great Chicago area players, a multi-year Arizona Player of the Year, and a new Croatian (a countryman of Vedran Vukusic).
Scott Zeller MD
Med '86
From johnl at mac.com  Sun Feb 26 23:01:28 2006
From: johnl at mac.com (John Labbe)
Date: Sun Feb 26 23:05:01 2006
Subject: [NU Sports] hoops and walker
In-Reply-To: <20060227005757.35050.qmail@web51312.mail.yahoo.com>
References: <20060227005757.35050.qmail@web51312.mail.yahoo.com>
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On Feb 26, 2006, at 6:57 PM, Brad Wilson wrote:

>  As
> usual the team is totally dependent on the 3-point
> shot and has no inside game on offense (NU shot 3 free
> throws ALL GAME at Penn State Saturday) or defense.
>

I don't know why there's the perception that we're "totally dependent 
on the 3-point shot."  It often seems that way when we lose, like we 
did against Penn State.  For one thing, we got behind big and started 
to rely on 3s to get back in the game (which we were successful at for 
a while, thanks to Seacat).  But when we WIN, it's often not due to 
3-point shooting.  Look at the Wisconsin game.  We shot 18 of 24 from 
the free thrown line, and we only had 12 (of 62) points from the 
3-point line.  Unfortunately, we don't always seem to be able to pull 
off the "backdoor cut," which greatly limits our ability to get inside 
(or the other teams seem to figure it out as the game goes on).

From michael.vance at att.net  Sun Feb 26 23:35:18 2006
From: michael.vance at att.net (Michael Vance)
Date: Sun Feb 26 23:36:05 2006
Subject: [NU Sports] hoops and walker
In-Reply-To: <20060227032456.27884.qmail@web52910.mail.yahoo.com>
References: <20060227032456.27884.qmail@web52910.mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <44028F96.5020606@att.net>

SjT (Stephen J. Truog) wrote:
> With so many kids leaving early, college basketball
> has been turned upside down in recent years and
> recruiting is a really tough game and risky. The
> smaller names that make runs in March seem to have a
> solid core of seniors -- something we could have had
> this year if bad luck hadn't hit Thompson and Parker
> hadn't been a idiot. But the lack of depth really
> showed when the bad luck hit.

I think that you've hit the nail on the head here, Stephen.  What has 
hurt us in basketball more than anything else is a lack of seniors 
playing.  The teams with the stud recruiting classes can afford for 
their best players to bolt as sophomores or juniors every year, but the 
NUs of the world need their seniors to stick around.  When was the last 
time we had an entire class go from freshmen to seniors without anyone 
transferring, getting hurt, going on their Mormon mission, etc.?  Heck, 
even allowing one guy to drop, I think you've got to go back to the Bill 
Foster era, or pretty close.  That's fifteen years!

-Michael

From michael.vance at att.net  Sun Feb 26 23:40:40 2006
From: michael.vance at att.net (Michael Vance)
Date: Sun Feb 26 23:41:21 2006
Subject: [NU Sports] hoops and walker
In-Reply-To: <19fe361cc92c7aca6bf2a6979c670011@mac.com>
References: <20060227005757.35050.qmail@web51312.mail.yahoo.com>
	<19fe361cc92c7aca6bf2a6979c670011@mac.com>
Message-ID: <440290D8.5050206@att.net>

Penn State beat us because they forced us to be dependent on the 3-point 
shot.  We couldn't get the ball inside against their zone.  When we can 
get the ball inside, and make the three a part of our arsenal instead of 
the whole thing, we are a much better team.

The other way to beat a zone is to reverse the ball and penetrate 
quickly.  I thought that we didn't reverse it enough, and when we tried 
we either weren't crisp enough and they picked off the pass, or we 
hesitated too long and missed the opportunity to drive against the zone. 
  But it's a lot easier to see the openings from the camera-eye view, too.

-Michael

John Labbe wrote:
> 
> On Feb 26, 2006, at 6:57 PM, Brad Wilson wrote:
> 
>>  As
>> usual the team is totally dependent on the 3-point
>> shot and has no inside game on offense (NU shot 3 free
>> throws ALL GAME at Penn State Saturday) or defense.
>>
> 
> I don't know why there's the perception that we're "totally dependent on 
> the 3-point shot."  It often seems that way when we lose, like we did 
> against Penn State.

From bwdolphin146 at yahoo.com  Mon Feb 27 00:42:51 2006
From: bwdolphin146 at yahoo.com (Brad Wilson)
Date: Mon Feb 27 00:50:43 2006
Subject: [NU Sports] friday games
Message-ID: <20060227064251.13821.qmail@web51309.mail.yahoo.com>

I dislike Friday games because I as an old fogey think
college football should be played on Saturdays,
preferably in the afternoon, maybe occasionally at
night, never in the AM!!!

I also think it's just bad all around to infringe on
high school football Fridays.

But I doubt NU had much to say about this anyway. The
home team is in control and they play when they want
to.

Brad Wilson

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From sjtruog at yahoo.com  Mon Feb 27 07:18:18 2006
From: sjtruog at yahoo.com (SjT (Stephen J. Truog))
Date: Mon Feb 27 07:19:27 2006
Subject: [NU Sports] hoops and walker
In-Reply-To: <44028F96.5020606@att.net>
Message-ID: <20060227131818.6377.qmail@web52909.mail.yahoo.com>

--- Michael Vance <michael.vance@att.net> wrote:

> I think that you've hit the nail on the head here,
> Stephen.  What has 
> hurt us in basketball more than anything else is a
> lack of seniors 

>  When was the last 
> time we had an entire class go from freshmen to
> seniors without anyone 
> transferring, getting hurt, going on their Mormon

I dunno about the transfers we lost, but the 1994 NIT
team was a bunch of seniors who were playing well
together and really fun to watch at the end of the
year. Despite earlier transfers, coaching changes,
etc. they were on fire at the end of the season,
beating top 20 teams Michigan and Wisconsin at home to
secure the NIT bid. Had the Big Ten had a tournament
back then, I think that was our best shot at the NCAAs
given how hot and confident that team was at the
moment heading into March.

The NIT game vs. DePaul was awesome and showcased the
kind of atmosphere Welsh-Ryan can be when it's packed.
The next game vs. Xavier unfortunately came while
students were gone on spring break. Pete Gillen was a
pretty good coach and the Musketeers escaped, but that
93-94 team of seniors was one heck of a team.

Glad to hear we have a good recruiting class coming in
- hopefully they can stay together with no injuries,
transfers, inflated NBA dreams, etc. and be THE team
remembered forever in Evanston as our first NCAA team.

GO CATS!!!
-SjT

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From bondscoop at megapathdsl.net  Mon Feb 27 08:02:45 2006
From: bondscoop at megapathdsl.net (Michael Jackson)
Date: Mon Feb 27 08:06:17 2006
Subject: [NU Sports] hoops and walker
Message-ID: <012401c63ba6$7f292290$0a01a8c0@Mike>

Our BB team has a number of deficiencies that never seem to go away no
matter who is playing for us.  We are consistently a poor rebounding
team.  Our offense is designed to get the open shot.  In the process,
most of the players are out of position for the rebound.  Our defense, a
match-up 1-3-1 zone, should give us a better chance for the boards, but
we don't block out well.  If you always rely on only one shot each time
down the court, our shooting must be perfect for us to have a chance to
win the tough games.  Our free throw shooting is also weak.  Too many
close games are decided by only a few points.  We need to get and make
our free throws.  In the Penn St game we only shot three free throws and
made none I think.  PS made 20 out of 26 if I'm not mistaken.  It is
hard to win that way.  Our third major fault is that our offense works
better against a man-to-man defense than against a zone.  Wisky played
us man-to-man.  We were able to work the ball and get either an open
jumper or a back-door lay up.  If you will notice, most of our tough
losses are against teams that play a tough zone defense.  I don't
understand why any team plays us man.  
 
BC has an outstanding class coming in next year.  What he does well is
develop the talent he gets as the year goes on.  Our teams always
improve as the season goes on.  If we can work on our deficiencies and
improve, I see no reason why we can't make the next step up to
consistency.  We have come a long way.  Many good coaches have failed at
NU BB.  I think our best chance is to allow BC a chance to build
something here.  We seem to forget how miserable NU was at football a
few decades ago.  Our BB team is quite competitive in the B10.  We just
need to be more consistent.  Have faith.  
 
Mike
 
 
 
 
 
 
Penn State beat us because they forced us to be dependent on the 3-point

shot.  We couldn't get the ball inside against their zone.  When we can 
get the ball inside, and make the three a part of our arsenal instead of

the whole thing, we are a much better team.
 
The other way to beat a zone is to reverse the ball and penetrate 
quickly.  I thought that we didn't reverse it enough, and when we tried 
we either weren't crisp enough and they picked off the pass, or we 
hesitated too long and missed the opportunity to drive against the zone.

  But it's a lot easier to see the openings from the camera-eye view,
too.
 
-Michael
 
John Labbe wrote:
> 
> On Feb 26, 2006, at 6:57 PM, Brad Wilson wrote:
> 
>>  As
>> usual the team is totally dependent on the 3-point
>> shot and has no inside game on offense (NU shot 3 free throws ALL 
>> GAME at Penn State Saturday) or defense.
>>
> 
> I don't know why there's the perception that we're "totally dependent 
> on
> the 3-point shot."  It often seems that way when we lose, like we did 
> against Penn State.
 
 
From rstetson at capps-assoc.com  Mon Feb 27 07:52:09 2006
From: rstetson at capps-assoc.com (Roy Lamberton)
Date: Mon Feb 27 08:21:25 2006
Subject: [NU Sports] hoops and walker
In-Reply-To: <440290D8.5050206@att.net>
Message-ID: <001201c63ba5$00bf7db0$6500a8c0@DAVIDXP>

>From where I sat, on my couch watching on TV, it appeared that PSU was more
animated in their play than we were. They were going to get every rebound [they
had practiced that all week] and made us contest every shot.

I almost never saw an opening in the middle, I don't think Mo and Vedran ever
got losse inside, and Jenkins and Williams seemed to get stripped every time
they tried to drive in.

Doyle had a few plays inside but it seemed that once Craig Moore missed his 3rd
straight 3 from the corner, the game was sealed as a loss.

We didn't get any help from the refs either.

Maybe we need to run the same rebounding drills PSU did last week?

rsl 

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> -----Original Message-----
> From: nwu-sports-bounces@tssi.com 
> [mailto:nwu-sports-bounces@tssi.com] On Behalf Of Michael Vance
> Sent: Monday, February 27, 2006 12:41 AM
> To: nwu-sports@tssi.com
> Subject: Re: [NU Sports] hoops and walker
> 
> 
> Penn State beat us because they forced us to be dependent on 
> the 3-point 
> shot.  We couldn't get the ball inside against their zone.  
> When we can 
> get the ball inside, and make the three a part of our arsenal 
> instead of 
> the whole thing, we are a much better team.
> 
> The other way to beat a zone is to reverse the ball and penetrate 
> quickly.  I thought that we didn't reverse it enough, and 
> when we tried 
> we either weren't crisp enough and they picked off the pass, or we 
> hesitated too long and missed the opportunity to drive 
> against the zone. 
>   But it's a lot easier to see the openings from the 
> camera-eye view, too.
> 
> -Michael
> 
> John Labbe wrote:
> > 
> > On Feb 26, 2006, at 6:57 PM, Brad Wilson wrote:
> > 
> >>  As
> >> usual the team is totally dependent on the 3-point
> >> shot and has no inside game on offense (NU shot 3 free throws ALL 
> >> GAME at Penn State Saturday) or defense.
> >>
> > 
> > I don't know why there's the perception that we're "totally 
> dependent 
> > on
> > the 3-point shot."  It often seems that way when we lose, 
> like we did 
> > against Penn State.
> 
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From ddave at nusports.com  Mon Feb 27 08:41:03 2006
From: ddave at nusports.com (dave bradley)
Date: Mon Feb 27 08:42:08 2006
Subject: [NU Sports] hoops and walker
Message-ID: <20060227064103.23B044E8@dm22.mta.everyone.net>

Rebounding practice will help - and maybe find out what Seacat ate/drank for breakfast or lunch Saturday and be sure he and everyone else gets the same before the Buckeyes game on Wednesday :-)

dave bradley
(717) 687-5355
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From: "Roy Lamberton" <rstetson@capps-assoc.com>
Date: Mon, 27 Feb 2006 08:52:09 -0500
To: "'Michael Vance'" <michael.vance@att.net>, <nwu-sports@tssi.com>
Subject: RE: [NU Sports] hoops and walker

>From where I sat, on my couch watching on TV, it appeared that PSU was more
animated in their play than we were. They were going to get every rebound [they
had practiced that all week] and made us contest every shot.

I almost never saw an opening in the middle, I don't think Mo and Vedran ever
got losse inside, and Jenkins and Williams seemed to get stripped every time
they tried to drive in.

Doyle had a few plays inside but it seemed that once Craig Moore missed his 3rd
straight 3 from the corner, the game was sealed as a loss.

We didn't get any help from the refs either.

Maybe we need to run the same rebounding drills PSU did last week?

rsl 

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> From: nwu-sports-bounces@tssi.com 
> [mailto:nwu-sports-bounces@tssi.com] On Behalf Of Michael Vance
> Sent: Monday, February 27, 2006 12:41 AM
> To: nwu-sports@tssi.com
> Subject: Re: [NU Sports] hoops and walker
> 
> 
> Penn State beat us because they forced us to be dependent on 
> the 3-point 
> shot.  We couldn't get the ball inside against their zone.  
> When we can 
> get the ball inside, and make the three a part of our arsenal 
> instead of 
> the whole thing, we are a much better team.
> 
> The other way to beat a zone is to reverse the ball and penetrate 
> quickly.  I thought that we didn't reverse it enough, and 
> when we tried 
> we either weren't crisp enough and they picked off the pass, or we 
> hesitated too long and missed the opportunity to drive 
> against the zone. 
>   But it's a lot easier to see the openings from the 
> camera-eye view, too.
> 
> -Michael
> 
> John Labbe wrote:
> > 
> > On Feb 26, 2006, at 6:57 PM, Brad Wilson wrote:
> > 
> >>  As
> >> usual the team is totally dependent on the 3-point
> >> shot and has no inside game on offense (NU shot 3 free throws ALL 
> >> GAME at Penn State Saturday) or defense.
> >>
> > 
> > I don't know why there's the perception that we're "totally 
> dependent 
> > on
> > the 3-point shot."  It often seems that way when we lose, 
> like we did 
> > against Penn State.
> 
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From jleonard518 at yahoo.com  Mon Feb 27 08:11:04 2006
From: jleonard518 at yahoo.com (Jim Leonard)
Date: Mon Feb 27 09:11:17 2006
Subject: [NU Sports] NU-Nevada game to conflict with Rosh Hashanah
In-Reply-To: <44013962.8090605@earthlink.net>
Message-ID: <20060227141104.48790.qmail@web36813.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

Jim,

I agreed with your point about El Paso, but I think it conflicts with your
point about Nevada. If the Christian (Jesus) music on a state campus was an
overlap of church and state, then from where I stand, considering one
religion's holidays when scheduling a game on a state campus would also be a
conflict. So long as we win, I'll enjoy the game whenever it is played. 

Regards,
Jim



> Jim Bendat wrote:
>
>> Back home from El Paso.  I agree with everything Chuck wrote, except 
>> for the country music band.  I felt their Jesus music was 
>> inappropriate, particularly with the game being held on a state 
>> university campus.

--- Jim Bendat <thehaze@earthlink.net> wrote:
> 
> That Friday night is the first night of Rosh Hashanah.  This change 
> doesn't sit well with me at all.  I wonder whether our administration 
> even bothered to check out the possibility of a conflict with a 
> significant religious holiday.
> 
> Jim B.


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From rstetson at capps-assoc.com  Mon Feb 27 09:32:25 2006
From: rstetson at capps-assoc.com (Roy Lamberton)
Date: Mon Feb 27 09:34:50 2006
Subject: [NU Sports] hoops and walker
In-Reply-To: <20060227064103.23B044E8@dm22.mta.everyone.net>
Message-ID: <001401c63bb3$02f47dc0$6500a8c0@DAVIDXP>

Seacat was magnificent. 

It was a nice turnaround in that he did all of the scoring against the team that
almost finished his career.

I wonder if BC will do the rebounding drills that PSU did last week.

rsl

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> -----Original Message-----
> From: dave bradley [mailto:ddave@nusports.com] 
> Sent: Monday, February 27, 2006 9:41 AM
> To: rstetson@capps-assoc.com; 'Michael Vance'; nwu-sports@tssi.com
> Subject: RE: [NU Sports] hoops and walker
> 
> 
> Rebounding practice will help - and maybe find out what 
> Seacat ate/drank for breakfast or lunch Saturday and be sure 
> he and everyone else gets the same before the Buckeyes game 
> on Wednesday :-)
>


From rstetson at capps-assoc.com  Mon Feb 27 09:41:13 2006
From: rstetson at capps-assoc.com (Roy Lamberton)
Date: Mon Feb 27 09:58:37 2006
Subject: [NU Sports] NU Sports News Digest 2/25
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BASKETBALL

     Men
     Northwestern Tripped Up by Penn State, 68-55
      http://nusports.collegesports.com/sports/m-baskbl/recaps/022506aac.html 
     + Lions' FTs push Cats back to .500
 
http://chicagosports.chicagotribune.com/sports/college/northwestern/cs-060226027
3feb26,1,6323697.story?coll=cs-college-nwestern-print 
     + Seacat Leading Scorer: PSU 68 NU 55
      http://northwestern.scout.com/2/502806.html 
     + NU can't keep up the pace
      http://www.suntimes.com/output/campus/cst-spt-nu26.html 
     + Penn St. takes freebie from NU
 
http://chicagosports.chicagotribune.com/sports/college/cs-060225nugamer,1,437725
4.story?coll=cs-college-headlines 
     + NU can't 'fight back' in loss
 
http://www.dailynorthwestern.com/vnews/display.v/ART/2006/02/27/44029f6640240 

     Cats must win next two games
 
http://www.dailynorthwestern.com/vnews/display.v/ART/2006/02/27/44029c301f6c0 

     Penn State
     Nittany Lions Roll To 14th Win, 68-55 Over Northwestern
      http://www.gopsusports.com/pressreleases/pressrelease.cfm?anncid=9647 
     + Travis Parker's Last Hurrah?
      http://pennstate.scout.com/2/502825.html 
     + Big Ten Roundup: PSU pounds Northwestern, 68-55
      http://www.post-gazette.com/pg/06057/661440.stm 
     + PSU shoots down Northwestern at line
      http://www.pittsburghlive.com/x/tribune-review/sports//s_427722.html 
     + Lions' three guards play paramount roles in win
 
http://www.collegian.psu.edu/archive/2006/02/02-27-06tdc/02-27-06dsports-02.asp 

     Ohio State
     Ohio State defense makes the difference
      http://www.suntimes.com/output/campus/cst-spt-mich26.html 
     + Buckeyes Win Defensive Battle Over Michigan
      http://ohiostate.scout.com/2/502735.html 
     + Backups bolster Buckeyes
 
http://www.dispatch.com/bball/bball.php?story=dispatch/2006/02/26/20060226-E1-00
.html 
     + Bob Hunter Commentary: With shots not falling, OSU cranks up defense
 
http://www.dispatch.com/bball/bball.php?story=dispatch/2006/02/26/20060226-E1-03
.html 
     + Buckeyes take care of business at home
      http://o-h-i-o.net/2006/02/buckeyes-take-care-of-business-at-home.html 
     + Big Ten title in sight, but OSU sees only Northwestern
 
http://www.columbusdispatch.com/bball/bball.php?story=dispatch/2006/02/27/200602
27-D1-01.html 

     1Other Big 10
     Illini manage goodbye gift for standouts
      http://www.suntimes.com/output/campus/cst-spt-ill26.html 
     + Illinois' home emotion makes mean sixth man
      http://www.suntimes.com/output/campus/cst-spt-herb26.html 
     + Brown, Augustine bid farewell with a win
      http://www.dailyherald.com/sports/illinois.asp?id=160457 
     + Twists in Illini home finale
 
http://chicagosports.chicagotribune.com/sports/college/cs-060224illini,1,7155017
.story?coll=cs-college-headlines 
     + Champaign toast for 2
 
http://chicagosports.chicagotribune.com/sports/college/cs-060225illinigamer,1,51
3062.story?coll=cs-college-headlines 

     Emotional Davis says goodbye to IU fans after win
 
http://nwitimes.com/articles/2006/02/27/sports/college_sports/800c910389c98e0886
2571220000ed04.txt 


     WOMEN
     Wildcats Fall to Gophers, 71-33
      http://nusports.collegesports.com/sports/w-baskbl/recaps/022606aaa.html 
     + Cats blown out on road in finale
 
http://www.dailynorthwestern.com/vnews/display.v/ART/2006/02/27/4402a0174e7fc 

     Gophers send their seniors out in style
      http://www.twincities.com/mld/twincities/sports/13970362.htm 

FOOTBALL

     His Alma Mater is excited...
     Matt MacPherson '99 Named Running Backs Coach at Northwestern University
      http://www.depauw.edu/news/index.asp?id=17108 
     Spring preview 2006: Big Ten storylines
      http://msn.foxsports.com/cfb/story/5358430?CMP=OTC-K9B140813162&ATT=24 
     + Northwestern
      http://msn.foxsports.com/cfb/story/5357746#nw 

BASEBALL

     Wildcats Lose 8-7 in 11 innings
      http://nusports.collegesports.com/sports/m-basebl/recaps/022506aaa.html 

FENCING

     Wildcats Complete Day One of Midwest Fencing Competition
      http://nusports.collegesports.com/sports/w-fenc/recaps/022606aaa.html 

GOLF

     Spring season begins in Puerto Rico with lofty expectations
 
http://www.dailynorthwestern.com/vnews/display.v/ART/2006/02/27/44029d74a9e0d 

LACROSSE

     No. 1 Northwestern Crushes Rutgers, 18-3
      http://nusports.collegesports.com/sports/w-lacros/recaps/022606aab.html 

SOFTBALL

     Rain Washes Away Rest of NFCA Leadoff Classic
      http://nusports.collegesports.com/sports/w-softbl/spec-rel/022506aab.html 
     Softball Tames No. 12 Northwestern Wildcats 2-0
      http://uoflsports.collegesports.com/sports/w-softbl/recaps/022406aab.html 

SWIMMING

     Northwestern Finishes With Seven Big Ten Championships
      http://nusports.collegesports.com/sports/m-swim/recaps/022506aac.html 
     + Four Wildcats Named First-Team All-Big Ten
      http://nusports.collegesports.com/sports/m-swim/spec-rel/022606aaa.html 

TENNIS

     MEN
     'Cats Sweep Spartans 7-0
      http://nusports.collegesports.com/sports/m-tennis/recaps/022506aaa.html 

     WOMEN
     Duke Opens Home Schedule With No. 6 Northwestern Sunday
 
http://www.goduke.com/ViewArticle.dbml?SPSID=22607&SPID=1840&DB_OEM_ID=4200&ATCL
ID=242911 

Miscellany

     Its good to be a badger
     Two Badgers have suspensions overturned
 
http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/rssclick/2006/football/ncaa/02/25/bc.fbc.wiscon
sinsuspens.ap/index.html?section=si_ncaaf 
     Medical Scho
     Alternative Remedies Fail Government Tests
 
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2006/02/26/AR2006022600379.
html 

Alumni

     Mark Loretta  Wears no. 3 to honor Foxx
 
http://scout.scout.com/a.z?s=179&p=9&c=2&cid=502725&nid=2313797&fhn=1&refid=4742

     Sam Simmons: Brigade offense produces just 19 points in bad loss
 
http://www.kansascity.com/mld/kansascity/sports/special_packages/kansas_city_bri
gade/13958345.htm 

     Joe Girardi SKOLNICK: Girardi's teal has tinges of green
 
http://www.sun-sentinel.com/sports/baseball/marlins/sfl-skolnick21feb21,0,549043
4.column?coll=sfla-sports-utility-marlins 
     + Marlins: 'One big competition'
 
http://www.palmbeachpost.com/marlins/content/sports/epaper/2006/02/26/a24b_marli
nstruck_0226.html 

     Luke Donald: This week: Accenture Match Play Championship
      http://www.worldgolfchampionships.com/ 
     + Scoring
      http://www.worldgolfchampionships.com/scoring/r470/ 

     Tim Johnson missed the cut at the ING New Zealand PGA Championship
      http://www.pgatour.com/tournaments/h078 

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From yevb00 at gmail.com  Mon Feb 27 09:58:17 2006
From: yevb00 at gmail.com (Evan Bradley)
Date: Mon Feb 27 09:59:22 2006
Subject: [NU Sports] NU-Nevada game to conflict with Rosh Hashanah
In-Reply-To: <20060227141104.48790.qmail@web36813.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
References: <44013962.8090605@earthlink.net>
	<20060227141104.48790.qmail@web36813.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <914d6aa90602270758v6749acfbhb09ec054926d4e35@mail.gmail.com>

Respectfully, I have to delurk to make a point in this discussion. 
Regardless of my (or anyone else's) opinion on when games are
scheduled, religiously-oriented music at a game and scheduling around
holidays don't contitute the same overlap of church and state/school. 
In the latter case, the religious content isn't brought into the
arena, whereas in the former, it is.

I don't think Jim B's points are mutually exclusive.  His opinion on
whether games should be scheduled on holidays shouldn't negate his
preference that, when he goes to a game (on a holiday or not), he not
encounter religious content.  Respecting the religious beliefs of
others isn't the same as including those beliefs in a program.

This is probably getting further and further off-topic, but I just
wanted to make that distinction before this devolved into something
unrecognizable as a sports discussion...

Evan

On 2/27/06, Jim Leonard <jleonard518@yahoo.com> wrote:
> Jim,
>
> I agreed with your point about El Paso, but I think it conflicts with your
> point about Nevada. If the Christian (Jesus) music on a state campus was an
> overlap of church and state, then from where I stand, considering one
> religion's holidays when scheduling a game on a state campus would also be a
> conflict. So long as we win, I'll enjoy the game whenever it is played.
>
> Regards,
> Jim
>
>
>
> > Jim Bendat wrote:
> >
> >> Back home from El Paso.  I agree with everything Chuck wrote, except
> >> for the country music band.  I felt their Jesus music was
> >> inappropriate, particularly with the game being held on a state
> >> university campus.
>
> --- Jim Bendat <thehaze@earthlink.net> wrote:
> >
> > That Friday night is the first night of Rosh Hashanah.  This change
> > doesn't sit well with me at all.  I wonder whether our administration
> > even bothered to check out the possibility of a conflict with a
> > significant religious holiday.
> >
> > Jim B.
>
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From thehaze at earthlink.net  Mon Feb 27 10:25:56 2006
From: thehaze at earthlink.net (Jim Bendat)
Date: Mon Feb 27 10:49:35 2006
Subject: [NU Sports] Basketball recruits for next year
Message-ID: <24851302.1141057556877.JavaMail.root@elwamui-muscovy.atl.sa.earthlink.net>

A couple of list members have mentioned that we have a good class entering NU next year.  Can some of you give us some more details on those new players?  Thanks!  -- Jim B.

From mlinhardt at netzero.net  Mon Feb 27 10:02:47 2006
From: mlinhardt at netzero.net (mlinhardt@netzero.net)
Date: Mon Feb 27 12:04:03 2006
Subject: [NU Sports] hoops and walker
Message-ID: <20060227.080343.28298.364549@webmail50.nyc.untd.com>

The rebounding drills question was brought up at the Fast Break Club event.

The answer:  Rebounding drills have a great potential to cause injury so are not done during the season.  A mention of lack of depth went with that answer.

Basketball is a strange beast.  I often imagine a "dream team" with Jitim(Point Guard), EE(Center), VV(Shooting Forward), Tavaras Hardy(Power Forward) with Collier Drayton(defensive stud) and Sean Wink(3-point guy) alternating at the 5th position.  Note:  I did graduate in '93 so I am limited with past players.

On the other hand in football the teams are unique/special and I never try to imagine a "dream team".

-- "Roy Lamberton" <rstetson@capps-assoc.com> wrote:
<snip>
I wonder if BC will do the rebounding drills that PSU did last week.



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From jeffb at hilgraeve.com  Mon Feb 27 09:57:54 2006
From: jeffb at hilgraeve.com (Jeff Beamsley)
Date: Mon Feb 27 19:03:22 2006
Subject: [NU Sports] hoops and walker
In-Reply-To: <012401c63ba6$7f292290$0a01a8c0@Mike>
Message-ID: <01d801c63bb6$926e0bd0$97492745@hilgraeve.com>

Carmody's Princeton offense is built around a couple of fundamental ideas -
force the defense to play man to man, create an open shot, pull the defense
out from under the basket, use the backdoor cut to keep the defender honest,
and force the defense to play solid for the full thirty-five seconds.  So
the focus of a whole offensive set may be to get one open shot or get one
favorable matchup where if our guy beats their guy, he can drive to the
basket for an easy layup because there is no help.  

Though it isn't supposed to, this offense ultimately lives and dies on the
strength of its outside shooting.  You have to make the open outside shots
early enough in the game to force the defense to play man to man.  Then the
offense with all of it's picks and cuts can start scoring points on easy
drives to the basket or medium range jumpers.  If you can't make the open
outside shots, then the defense can afford to sit back in a zone protecting
the basket.  That makes it tough to get an offensive rebound. 

The teams that have played this offense well almost always have five players
on the floor who have an outside shot.  This is not an offense built around
a big guy in the post who touches the ball at least once in every offensive
sequence.  This is another reason why it is tough to get an offensive
rebound.  But I agree with earlier posters, if you don't box out, you won't
get any rebounds at all regardless of whether or not you are under the
basket.

The difference in those teams that don't play this offense is that they have
at least one or two individual players with sufficient athletic talent that
they can't be effectively guarded man to man.  The game in these
circumstances becomes one of matchups on the floor.  When a coach can depend
on one or two gifted players to force the defense to react by
double-teaming, they build an offense around taking advantage of those
reactions.  Northwestern has not been able to recruit the sort of talent
that allows Carmody this luxury. 

So what we see instead is a team that on a good day can beat pretty much
anyone in the conference because the offensive scheme works.  Good days are
defined by the outside shot falling early and maximum effort on defense.  On
a bad day, however, it can be pretty ugly.

Jeff
 



-----Original Message-----
From: nwu-sports-bounces@tssi.com [mailto:nwu-sports-bounces@tssi.com] On
Behalf Of Michael Jackson
Sent: Monday, February 27, 2006 9:03 AM
To: NU Sports List 
Subject: Re: [NU Sports] hoops and walker

Our BB team has a number of deficiencies that never seem to go away no
matter who is playing for us.  We are consistently a poor rebounding team.
Our offense is designed to get the open shot.  In the process, most of the
players are out of position for the rebound.  Our defense, a match-up 1-3-1
zone, should give us a better chance for the boards, but we don't block out
well.  If you always rely on only one shot each time down the court, our
shooting must be perfect for us to have a chance to win the tough games.
Our free throw shooting is also weak.  Too many close games are decided by
only a few points.  We need to get and make our free throws.  In the Penn St
game we only shot three free throws and made none I think.  PS made 20 out
of 26 if I'm not mistaken.  It is hard to win that way.  Our third major
fault is that our offense works better against a man-to-man defense than
against a zone.  Wisky played us man-to-man.  We were able to work the ball
and get either an open jumper or a back-door lay up.  If you will notice,
most of our tough losses are against teams that play a tough zone defense.
I don't understand why any team plays us man.  
 
BC has an outstanding class coming in next year.  What he does well is
develop the talent he gets as the year goes on.  Our teams always improve as
the season goes on.  If we can work on our deficiencies and improve, I see
no reason why we can't make the next step up to consistency.  We have come a
long way.  Many good coaches have failed at NU BB.  I think our best chance
is to allow BC a chance to build something here.  We seem to forget how
miserable NU was at football a few decades ago.  Our BB team is quite
competitive in the B10.  We just need to be more consistent.  Have faith.  
 
Mike
 
 
 
 
 
 
Penn State beat us because they forced us to be dependent on the 3-point

shot.  We couldn't get the ball inside against their zone.  When we can get
the ball inside, and make the three a part of our arsenal instead of

the whole thing, we are a much better team.
 
The other way to beat a zone is to reverse the ball and penetrate quickly.
I thought that we didn't reverse it enough, and when we tried we either
weren't crisp enough and they picked off the pass, or we hesitated too long
and missed the opportunity to drive against the zone.

  But it's a lot easier to see the openings from the camera-eye view, too.
 
-Michael
 
John Labbe wrote:
> 
> On Feb 26, 2006, at 6:57 PM, Brad Wilson wrote:
> 
>>  As
>> usual the team is totally dependent on the 3-point shot and has no 
>> inside game on offense (NU shot 3 free throws ALL GAME at Penn State 
>> Saturday) or defense.
>>
> 
> I don't know why there's the perception that we're "totally dependent 
> on the 3-point shot."  It often seems that way when we lose, like we 
> did against Penn State.
 
 
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