From MHRJGScott at aol.com  Sat Oct  1 16:50:06 2005
From: MHRJGScott at aol.com (MHRJGScott@aol.com)
Date: Sat Oct  1 16:54:07 2005
Subject: [NU Sports] our losses
Message-ID: <1a1.3d64d837.30705e8e@aol.com>

As I reluctantly turn off the TV to go to the symphony I note that Penn  
State and AZ St. are working on upsets. Go foes.
From thehaze at earthlink.net  Sun Oct  2 14:25:28 2005
From: thehaze at earthlink.net (Jim Bendat)
Date: Sun Oct  2 14:29:17 2005
Subject: [NU Sports] Attendance predictions, anyone?!
Message-ID: <43403428.8010800@earthlink.net>

Our basketball schedule just came out.  I see where we will be hosting 
Northern Colorado on Sunday, January 1st at 1 pm.  Yes, a big one 
against vaunted Northern Colorado on New Year's Day!


From johnl at mac.com  Sun Oct  2 19:21:19 2005
From: johnl at mac.com (John Labbe)
Date: Sun Oct  2 19:23:14 2005
Subject: [NU Sports] 2 tickets for Wisconsin
Message-ID: <fc849f4a24cb6e1c80f858d75bed6205@mac.com>

I have two extra good tickets for Wisconsin (next Saturday) that I'll 
sell to a Northwestern fan for $80 for the pair (face value), plus the 
cost (if any) for whatever delivery method you choose.

I was planning to unload these at StubHub.com for a profit, but I 
decided I'd rather sell them to an NU fan than make a buck selling them 
to (almost certainly) a Badger fan.

The two seats are west side, lower level, at about the 15-yard line 
(toward the south endzone (i.e., NOT near the student section)).  
They're on row 54, just two in from the aisle.

$40 each is the face value, which was a special season-ticket holder 
individual ticket rate.  Regular tickets for this game are $50 plus 
ticket office handling fees, which I'm not looking to recoup.

Let me know if you're interested.

From jeffb at hilgraeve.com  Mon Oct  3 10:03:13 2005
From: jeffb at hilgraeve.com (Jeff Beamsley)
Date: Mon Oct  3 10:07:31 2005
Subject: [NU Sports] our losses
In-Reply-To: <1a1.3d64d837.30705e8e@aol.com>
Message-ID: <20051003150409.429FF93EBC@mail.hilgraeve.com>

The good news is that PSU appears to be a better team that many imagined and
maybe Minny isn't as good.  More good news is that MSU isn't quite as good
as many thought either, though with the benefit of a really questionable
call they mounted a good comeback.  The bad news is that we don't play Minny
and Michigan with Hart just got a lot better.

Jeff


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As I reluctantly turn off the TV to go to the symphony I note that Penn
State and AZ St. are working on upsets. Go foes.
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From rstetson at capps-assoc.com  Mon Oct  3 10:07:44 2005
From: rstetson at capps-assoc.com (Roy Lamberton)
Date: Mon Oct  3 11:12:56 2005
Subject: [NU Sports] Attendance predictions, anyone?!
In-Reply-To: <43403428.8010800@earthlink.net>
Message-ID: <001e01c5c82c$35a8ac50$6500a8c0@DAVIDXP>

I think it depends on how well the Cats are playing.

If we're winning, a lot of roundball fans with nothing "better" to do will show
up to see NU win another one. If we're mired in the doldrums, ouch...

BTW - the pros play a lot of Jan 1 day games - not sure about average
attendance, but roundball fans seem to come out on New Year's, and sometimes
Christmas!

Go Cats

rsl

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> -----Original Message-----
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> To: nwu-sports@tssi.com
> Subject: [NU Sports] Attendance predictions, anyone?!
> 
> 
> Our basketball schedule just came out.  I see where we will 
> be hosting 
> Northern Colorado on Sunday, January 1st at 1 pm.  Yes, a big one 
> against vaunted Northern Colorado on New Year's Day!
> 
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From Alan.Abrahamson at latimes.com  Mon Oct  3 12:10:26 2005
From: Alan.Abrahamson at latimes.com (Abrahamson, Alan)
Date: Mon Oct  3 12:18:05 2005
Subject: [NU Sports] our losses
Message-ID: <6A0419188B49A54C960893D230C26807084AE3AD@goose.latimes.com>

 How Penn State won that game Saturday is beyond me. They looked awful against Northwestern.
 Realize that doesn't say much about the Wildcats ... alas.
 Ever hopeful in purple, Alan

-----Original Message-----
From: nwu-sports-bounces@tssi.com [mailto:nwu-sports-bounces@tssi.com]On
Behalf Of Jeff Beamsley
Sent: Monday, October 03, 2005 8:03 AM
To: nwu-sports@tssi.com
Subject: RE: [NU Sports] our losses


The good news is that PSU appears to be a better team that many imagined and
maybe Minny isn't as good.  More good news is that MSU isn't quite as good
as many thought either, though with the benefit of a really questionable
call they mounted a good comeback.  The bad news is that we don't play Minny
and Michigan with Hart just got a lot better.

Jeff


-----Original Message-----
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Behalf Of MHRJGScott@aol.com
Sent: Saturday, October 01, 2005 5:50 PM
To: nwu-sports@tssi.com
Subject: [NU Sports] our losses

As I reluctantly turn off the TV to go to the symphony I note that Penn
State and AZ St. are working on upsets. Go foes.
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From sjtruog at yahoo.com  Mon Oct  3 17:41:59 2005
From: sjtruog at yahoo.com (SjT (Stephen J. Truog))
Date: Mon Oct  3 17:43:06 2005
Subject: [NU Sports] our losses
In-Reply-To: <20051003150409.429FF93EBC@mail.hilgraeve.com>
Message-ID: <20051003224159.67179.qmail@web52912.mail.yahoo.com>

> The good news is that PSU appears to be a better
> team that many imagined and maybe Minny isn't

Not many things shock me in the Big Ten anymore - that
game in Happy Valley was a total shocker. Either we
awakened a sleeping giant last week and PSU's frosh
got a boost from the comeback or they're a heck of a
lot better than they looked in Evanston -- we ran on
'em and Minny couldn't. Alas, we don't play the
Gophers this year.

The Big Ten this year is looking wild and
unpredictable -- again, 29 points may not be enough to
win (it wouldn't have on Saturday in any Big Ten game)
-- we're more wide open and offensive ... there are
few defenses that look respectable so far in the
league.

Right now, I still think OSU is the clear class of the
conference -- save for a rare coaching collapse in the
Texas game, they'd be #2 right now and headed to
Pasadena (still, with other losses, they're #6 and
#3/4 play each other and #5 has a brutal road as well
... so they just gotta hope Texas or SC slips and they
win out -- but it's tough to see SC or Texas losing
before Pasadena). The Bucks should be a better gague
of how good PSU is with that prime time thriller in
Happy Valley next week.

And Michigan ain't dead yet - especially with Hart.
Too bad Lloyd clamps up against the Irish each year in
September ... and speaking of an Irish choke, what
happened to Purdooooo? Yikes!

As I said after PSU, I think we have a chance to win
every game left on our schedule save for the trip to
Columbus ... what I have trouble seeing us do is put
together a streak of wins against a schedule that now
includes 8 teams that have been ranked in the polls
already this year. Every week will be a war.

I like our chances against the Badgers. We have to
stop their run and make 'em throw to beat us (which
was kinda our plan vs. PSU and that backfired), but as
long as we hold on to the ball and score on O, it
could be a fun shootout. One game at a time.

GO CATS!!!
-SjT

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From rstetson at capps-assoc.com  Mon Oct  3 19:41:18 2005
From: rstetson at capps-assoc.com (Roy Lamberton)
Date: Mon Oct  3 20:26:39 2005
Subject: [NU Sports] NU Sports News Digest 10/3
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Weekend Wrapup Edition

A Bye Week recap



                                                                  All the News
that Fits We Link
                                                                      Your Index
to News about
                                                                    Northwestern
University Athletics


FOOTBALL

     Kids getting it done on defense
 
http://chicagosports.chicagotribune.com/sports/college/cs-051002colfootnu,1,1962
860.story?coll=cs-college-headlines

     Reflections of 1995
     Still having a big impact
 
http://chicagosports.chicagotribune.com/sports/college/cs-051001nufitz,1,727912.
story?coll=cs-college-headlines
     + Tight NU team has come a long way
      http://www.suntimes.com/output/campus/cst-spt-rose02.html

     SportsXchange: Inside Slant
      http://msn.foxsports.com/cfb/teamReport?categoryId=86065&type=InsideSlant
     + Notes & Quotes
 
http://msn.foxsports.com/cfb/teamReport?categoryId=86065&type=NotesAndQuotes
     + Strategy and Personnel
 
http://msn.foxsports.com/cfb/teamReport?categoryId=86065&type=StrategyAndPersonn
el

Next Up

     GoUPurple: the upcoming Badger game..
      http://hailtopurple.com/cats5a30e.html

     Wisconsin Badgers [10/8]
     Rout not perfect in eyes of Badgers
 
http://chicagosports.chicagotribune.com/sports/college/cs-051001wisconsin,1,2417
014.story?coll=cs-college-headlines
     + Suddenly, he's Mr. Touchdown
      http://wisconsin.scout.com/2/446995.html
     + Monday press conference: Barry Alvarez audio
      http://wisconsin.scout.com/2/447317.html
     + Langford audio, UW/IU postgame
      http://wisconsin.scout.com/2/447143.html
     + Calhoun audio, UW/IU postgame
      http://wisconsin.scout.com/2/447146.html
     + Badgers continue undefeated march
      http://badgerherald.com/sports/2005/10/03/badgers_continue_und.php
     + Badgers win ugly, stay undefeated
 
http://www.dailycardinal.com/news/2005/10/03/Sports/Badgers.Win.Ugly.Stay.Undefe
ated-1006567.shtml
     + Football Analysis
 
http://www.dailycardinal.com/news/2005/10/03/Sports/Football.Analysis-1006570.sh
tml
     + Mike Lucas: Rested 'Cats pose tough test for unbeaten Badgers
      http://www.madison.com/tct/sports/lucas/index.php?ntid=56336
     + Grading the Badgers: Wisconsin 41, Indiana 24
      http://www.madison.com/tct/sports/index.php?ntid=56340
     +  Injuries, road test Badgers
      http://www.madison.com/wsj/mad/sports/index.php?ntid=56276
     + Hoeppner laments IU's bad field position in setback
 
http://www.indystar.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20051003/SPORTS0601/510030444
/1004/SPORTS

Future Big 10 Opponents:

     @ Purdue Boilermakers [10/15]
     + Quinn, Powers-Neal star as Irish cruise
 
http://chicagosports.chicagotribune.com/sports/college/cs-051001irish,1,1993728.
story?coll=cs-college-headlines
     + Irish road streak ranks among best
 
http://chicagosports.chicagotribune.com/sports/college/cs-052003colfootirish,1,1
976755.story?coll=cs-college-headlines
     + Tiller: Expect changes this week
 
http://www.boilerstation.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20051003/SPORTS020101/51
0030318/1122/BOILER
     + Quinn's passing leads Irish in romp
 
http://www.boilerstation.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20051002/SPORTS020101/51
0010356/1122/BOILER
     + Purdue Vs. Notre Dame Game Statistics
 
http://www.boilerstation.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20051002/SPORTS020101/50
922002/1122
     + Purdue dealing with banged-up bodies, loose tongues
 
http://www.indystar.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20051003/SPORTS0602/510030425
/1004/SPORTS

     @ Michigan State Spartans [10/22]
     Spartans vow to "finish" after tough loss
      http://michiganstate.scout.com/2/446491.html
     + It hurts
      http://www.statenews.com/article.phtml?pk=32087
     + Lack of kicking game looms large after loss to U-M
      http://www.statenews.com/article.phtml?pk=32069
     + Wolverines kicker gets second chance and puts away Spartans
      http://www.statenews.com/article.phtml?pk=32070
     + Spartans' fast start was slowed by their rivals to the Southeast
      http://www.statenews.com/article.phtml?pk=32072

     Michigan Wolverines [10/29 Homecoming]
     Wolverines best Spartans again in overtime
 
http://www.dailynorthwestern.com/vnews/display.v/ART/2005/10/03/4340d3bc34941

     Then its:
     Iowa Hawkeyes [11/5]
     @ Ohio State Buckeyes [11/12]
     Illinois Fighting Illini [11/19]

Miscellaneous Football News:

Recruiting

     Gameday Experience
      http://story.scout.com/a.z?s=179&p=2&c=447091
     Loukas Leaving on First Official
      http://story.scout.com/a.z?s=179&p=2&c=446248
     Trevin Cowman Big East Visitor
      http://scout.scout.com/a.z?s=179&p=9&c=2&cid=447092&nid=1990839&fhn=1
     Kris Cooke Makes his verbal commitment
      http://scout.scout.com/a.z?s=179&p=9&c=2&cid=446758&nid=1758388&fhn=1

BASKETBALL

      Northwestern Announces 2005-06 Schedule
      http://nusports.collegesports.com/sports/m-baskbl/spec-rel/092905aac.html
     + NU Basketball Schedule - Non Conference
      http://northwestern.scout.com/2/446287.html

     Women
     Northwestern Announces 2005-06 Schedule
      http://nusports.collegesports.com/sports/w-baskbl/spec-rel/090105aaa.html

CROSS COUNTRY

      Northwestern Finishes 10th at Sean Earl Invitational
      http://www.fansonly.com/schools/nw/sports/w-xc/recaps/100105aab.html
     + Freshman leads Wildcats to 10th-place finish
 
http://www.dailynorthwestern.com/vnews/display.v/ART/2005/10/03/4340d6eb91c5a

FIELD HOCKEY

      Wildcats Edged by No. 10 Buckeyes, 3-2
      http://www.fansonly.com/schools/nw/sports/w-fieldh/recaps/100105aac.html

GOLF

     Northwestern Set to Host One of Golf's Premier Events -- the Big Ten/Pac-10
Challenge
      http://nusports.collegesports.com/sports/m-golf/spec-rel/092205aaa.html
     + Rose Bowl-like tourney tees off
 
http://www.dailynorthwestern.com/vnews/display.v/ART/2005/10/03/4340d50e440a8

SOCCER

     Men
     Wildcats Beat Conference Foe Michigan State, 2-0
      http://nusports.collegesports.com/sports/m-soccer/recaps/100205aab.html
     + Junior makes instant impact in 1st match
 
http://www.dailynorthwestern.com/vnews/display.v/ART/2005/10/03/4340d3089ece6
     + Men's Soccer Blanked At Northwestern Spartans suffer just their ...
      http://www.collegesports.com/sports/m-soccer/stories/100205abt.html

     Women
      Northwestern Falls to Minnesota, 1-0
      http://www.fansonly.com/schools/nw/sports/w-soccer/recaps/100205aaa.html
     + Big Ten slip-ups reveal weak spots
 
http://www.dailynorthwestern.com/vnews/display.v/ART/2005/10/03/4340d044bc9bc
     + Schneider Posts Shutout as Minnesota Upsets No. 28 ...
 
http://www.gophersports.com/sportsNews/press_release.asp?news_id=11228&sport_id=
wsoccer
     + 'U' women's soccer team shuts out Northwestern
      http://www.startribune.com/stories/503/5647385.html
     + Minnesota continues resurgent season
      http://www.mndaily.com/articles/2005/10/03/65401


TENNIS

      Willy Lock and Christian Tempke to Compete in 2005 Polo Ralph Lauren
All-American Tennis Championships
      http://nusports.collegesports.com/sports/m-tennis/spec-rel/092705aab.html

VOLLEYBALL

     No. 21 Boilermakers Beat Northwestern, 3-0
      http://www.fansonly.com/schools/nw/sports/w-volley/recaps/100205aab.html 
     + Boilers pack Mackey, beat Northwestern
 
http://www.purdueexponent.org/index.php/module/Issue/action/Article/article_id/1
146 
     + 8,512 fans turn out for Purdue sweep
 
http://www.indystar.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20051003/SPORTS0602/510030426
/1070 
     + Answering The Call Of The Wild
 
http://purduesports.collegesports.com/sports/w-volley/recaps/100205aaa.html 

     Wildcats Outlast Illini, 3-2
      http://www.fansonly.com/schools/nw/sports/w-volley/recaps/093005aab.html 
     + Illini volleyball struggles in weekend matches
 
http://www.dailyillini.com/news/2005/10/03/News/Illini.Volleyball.Struggles.In.W
eekend.Matches-1007198.shtml 

MISCELLANY

     Storied programs revive tradition
 
http://www.usatoday.com/sports/college/football/2005-10-02-storied-programs_x.ht
m?csp=34 

ALUMNI

      Luis Castillo - Started at Left End in Win
      http://www.chargers.com/news/headline_detail.cfm?news_key=2340 
     Mark Loretta: Cardinals-Padres: Position analysis
 
http://sandiego.padres.mlb.com/NASApp/mlb/news/article.jsp?ymd=20051003&content_
id=1235706&vkey=news_sd&fext=.jsp&c_id=sd 
     + Padres head into playoffs on winning note
 
http://sandiego.padres.mlb.com/NASApp/mlb/news/gameday_recap.jsp?ymd=20051002&co
ntent_id=1234710&vkey=recap&fext=.jsp&c_id=sd 

     PGA: [Links on Player's Name is their live scorecard]
     Luke Donald - will be at the World Golf Championships- American Express
Championship.
      http://www.worldgolfchampionships.com/tournaments/r473 

     At the Oregon Classic
      http://www.pgatour.com/tournaments/h068 
     Jess Daley - Played and Missed the Cut
     Tom Johnson - Missed the Cut

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From rstetson at capps-assoc.com  Tue Oct  4 13:26:19 2005
From: rstetson at capps-assoc.com (Roy Lamberton)
Date: Tue Oct  4 13:26:44 2005
Subject: [NU Sports] NU Sports News Digest 10/4
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Tuesday Edition

 Football - gettin' ready for Wisconsin, There's some recruiting news, and still
more wrapups from the weekend. Alumni Action too...

                                All the News that Fits We Link
                                   Your Index to News about
                               Northwestern University Athletics
FOOTBALL

     Rested Wildcats Brace For Unbeaten and 14th-Ranked Wisconsin
      http://www.fansonly.com/schools/nw/sports/m-footbl/spec-rel/100305aaa.html

     + 2 Deep Changes for Wisconsin
      http://northwestern.scout.com/2/447450.html 
     + Ex-starter Roberson returns from injury
 
http://chicagosports.chicagotribune.com/sports/college/northwestern/cs-051004019
7oct04,1,1469452.story?coll=cs-college-nwestern-print 

     NU's maligned defense faces another potent offense
      http://www.dailyherald.com/sports/sportsstory.asp?id=101641 

     Walker hopes to replicate upset win
 
http://www.dailynorthwestern.com/vnews/display.v/ART/2005/10/04/434210e8c8cff 
     + Walker's connection to '95 not so rosy
      http://www.suntimes.com/output/campus/cst-spt-nu04.html 

     Season full of dismay
      http://www.jsonline.com/badger/fb/oct05/360531.asp 
     + Scouting report: The book on Northwestern 
      http://www.jsonline.com/badger/fb/oct05/360530.asp 

     Monday Morning Quarterbacking...Commentary -
     SjT: View From [10/3]
      http://northwestern.scout.com/2/447459.html 
     Mike Lucas: Rested 'Cats pose tough test for unbeaten Badgers
      http://www.madison.com/tct/sports/index.php?ntid=56336&ntpid=0 
     GoUPurple: we say goodbye to a legend.
      http://hailtopurple.com/cats5j04a.html 
     LowesLine: ode to the late Allen Ginsberg.
      http://hailtopurple.com/features/lowesline5j03.html 
     Hodges: NU Football: Bye Week Report
      http://jhodges.org/archives/2005/10/01/61/ 

Next Up

     Wisconsin Badgers [10/8]
     Monday press conference: Barry Alvarez
      http://story.scout.com/a.z?s=179&p=2&c=447437 
     + Alvarez to change practice format for Northwestern
      http://www.fortwayne.com/mld/newssentinel/12808258.htm 
     + Badgers not happy despite victory
      http://www.wisinfo.com/northwestern/sports/stories/sports_22838488.shtml 
     + Stocco's numbers a victim of inflation
      http://www.jsonline.com/badger/fb/oct05/360182.asp 
     + Football notebook: Williams' Big Ten laurel 
      http://wisconsin.scout.com/2/447542.html 
     + Monday press conference: Mark Johnson
      http://wisconsin.scout.com/2/447446.html 
     + Monday press conference: Mike Eaves
      http://wisconsin.scout.com/2/447415.html 
     + Monday press conference: Pete Waite
      http://wisconsin.scout.com/2/447407.html 
     + Turnovers return to recipe
      http://www.madison.com/wsj/home/sports/index.php?ntid=56416&ntpid=3 
     + Similar challenges face defense 
      http://badgerherald.com/sports/2005/10/04/similar_challenges_f.php 
     + Two Badgers might return
      http://www.jsonline.com/badger/fb/oct05/360532.asp 
     + Williams remembers loss
      http://www.jsonline.com/badger/fb/oct05/360306.asp 

Future Big 10 Opponents:

     @ Purdue Boilermakers [10/15]
     Deuces Wild
 
http://purduesports.collegesports.com/sports/m-footbl/spec-rel/100305aad.html 
     + Game Notes
 
http://purduesports.collegesports.com/sports/m-footbl/spec-rel/100305aac.html 
     + Game Notes in PDF Format
 
http://www.fansonly.com/photos/schools/pur/sports/m-footbl/auto_pdf/weekly-relea
se.pdf 
     + Tiller, Spack vow to fix porous defense
 
http://www.boilerstation.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20051002/SPORTS020101/51
0020343/1046 
     + Murphy: Don't blame players for Purdue's woeful defense
 
http://www.boilerstation.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20051004/COLUMNISTS14/51
0040316/1046/SPORTS020101 

     @ Michigan State Spartans [10/22] Bye Week
     Third-Annual Women's Football Day Scheduled For Oct. 8
 
http://msuspartans.collegesports.com/sports/m-footbl/spec-rel/100305aaa.html 
     + Spartans will use bye week to heal injuries
 
http://www.mlive.com/sportsflash/college/index.ssf?/base/sports-14/1128369842129
921.xml&storylist=bigten 

     Michigan Wolverines [10/29 Homecoming]
     Football's Hart Earns Big Ten Weekly Award on Offense
      http://www.mgoblue.com/document_display.cfm?document_id=19171 
     + Monday Presser Highlights: Week Six
      http://michigan.scout.com/2/447314.html 
     + Henne bounces back in victory
      http://www.michigandaily.com/vnews/display.v/ART/2005/10/04/434212cb90aef 
     + Ali-Frazier fights get Varsity ready to rumble
      http://www.michigandaily.com/vnews/display.v/ART/2005/10/04/434213cb2ab90 
     + Carr happy with team's performance in win over Michigan State
 
http://www.mlive.com/sportsflash/college/index.ssf?/base/sports-14/1128379144203
82.xml&storylist=bigten 
     + U-M plans to build on win
 
http://www.mlive.com/wolverines/aanews/football/index.ssf?/base/sports-1/1128350
433274300.xml&coll=2 
     + Carr miffed by fumble ruling
      http://www.freep.com/sports/umich/um4e_20051004.htm 
     Then its: 


     Iowa Hawkeyes [11/5]
     @ Ohio State Buckeyes [11/12]
     Illinois Fighting Illini [11/19]

Miscellaneous Football News:

     Big Ten Weekly Football Release -- Oct. 3
 
http://www.fansonly.com/schools/big10/sports/m-footbl/spec-rel/100305aad.html 
     Red River Shootout highlights big weekend in football
      http://www.michigandaily.com/vnews/display.v/ART/2005/10/04/4342163145883 

Recruiting

     Daverin Geralds names his Top 3 schools
      http://story.scout.com/a.z?s=179&p=2&c=447540 

     Trevin Cowman Big East Visitor
      http://scout.scout.com/a.z?s=179&p=9&c=2&cid=447092&nid=1990839&fhn=1 
     Jack Brady Holds Two MAC Offers
      http://scout.scout.com/a.z?s=179&p=9&c=2&cid=447232&nid=2198185&fhn=1 

     There's at least one NU Target on the list...
     Flood of Verbal Commitments Turns Top Uncommitted Class of 2006 Prospect
List Upside Down
      http://www.chicagohoops.com/members/uncommitted.html 
     $ Updated Class of 2006 Verbal Commitment Listing
      http://www.chicagohoops.com/members/2006verbals.html 

BASKETBALL

     in case you missed this...
     2005-06 Prospectus
 
http://www.fansonly.com/photos/schools/nw/sports/m-baskbl/auto_pdf/0506mbkprospe
ctus.pdf 

CROSS COUNTRY

     Freshman leads Wildcats to 10th-place finish
      http://www.collegesports.com/sports/c-xc/uwire/100305aak.html 

FIELD HOCKEY

     Northwestern to Face No. 14 Iowa
      http://www.fansonly.com/schools/nw/sports/w-fieldh/spec-rel/100405aaa.html

     NU contains offense until Buckeyes come through in 2nd half (Field Hockey)
 
http://www.dailynorthwestern.com/vnews/display.v/ART/2005/10/04/43420f2eb61ff 

GOLF

     Officially, Northwestern Holds Lead at Big Ten/Pac-10 Challenge
      http://www.fansonly.com/schools/nw/sports/m-golf/recaps/100305aaa.html 
     + Cats sit tied for 3rd, only 2 shots back
 
http://www.dailynorthwestern.com/vnews/display.v/ART/2005/10/04/4342159151bd9 

TENNIS

     Wildcats Wrap Up First Day at 2005 Ralph Lauren All-American Invitational
      http://www.fansonly.com/schools/nw/sports/m-tennis/spec-rel/100305aaa.html


VOLLEYBALL

     Wildcats pick up 1st conference win but can't maintain composure on road
 
http://www.dailynorthwestern.com/vnews/display.v/ART/2005/10/04/43421754c1f58 

WRESTLING

     Wildcats Announce Schedule For 2005 Northwestern Wrestling Annual Coaches
Clinic
      http://www.fansonly.com/schools/nw/sports/m-wrestl/spec-rel/100405aab.html


MISCELLANY

     Aldermen include NU in their vision of Evanston's future
 
http://www.dailynorthwestern.com/vnews/display.v/ART/2005/10/03/4340cb5471deb 
     Bagnato: College football coaches don't let anyone encroach on their turf
-- be it the president of the university or the president of the United States. 
      http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/news/story?id=2179611 

ALUMNI

     In post season for the first time
     Mark Loretta: Padres try to overcome 82-80 record
 
http://sandiego.padres.mlb.com/NASApp/mlb/news/article.jsp?ymd=20051003&content_
id=1236830&vkey=news_sd&fext=.jsp&c_id=sd 
     PGA: [Links on Player's Name is their live scorecard]
     Luke Donald - will be at the World Golf Championships- American Express
Championship.
      http://www.worldgolfchampionships.com/tournaments/r473 
     + "McDowell and Donald will make the Ryder Cup team ahead of Stenson and
Dougherty" - SB 
      http://%20http//www.bbc.co.uk/dna/mbfivelive/F2148569?thread=1143592 

     At the Gila River Golf Classic presented by Wild Horse Pass
      http://www.pgatour.com/tournaments/h076 

     Jess Daley - Not Scheduled
     Tom Johnson - Scheduled to Play

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From sjtruog at yahoo.com  Wed Oct  5 00:15:11 2005
From: sjtruog at yahoo.com (SjT (Stephen J. Truog))
Date: Wed Oct  5 00:16:24 2005
Subject: [NU Sports] PIGSKIN PICKS - Week 6
Message-ID: <20051005051511.27480.qmail@web52905.mail.yahoo.com>

Another week - time is flying! Get those picks in by
kickoff Saturday with those pesky behdgers!

PIGSKIN PICKS - WEEK 6
######################
Name: 

Big Ten
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GAME  1: Illinois @ Indiana         WINNER: 
GAME  2: Iowa @ Purdue              WINNER: 
GAME  3: Minnesota @ Michigan       WINNER: 
GAME  4: Ohio State @ Penn State    WINNER: 

National
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GAME  5: California @ UCLA          WINNER: 
GAME  6: Georgia @ Tennessee        WINNER: 
GAME  7: Oklahoma vs. Texas *       WINNER: 
GAME  8: Oregon @ Arizona State     WINNER: 
GAME  9: Texas Tech @ Nebraska      WINNER: 
GAME 10: Virginia @ Boston College  WINNER: 

Picks due by kickoff Saturday.
GO CATS!!!
-SjT

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From rstetson at capps-assoc.com  Thu Oct  6 06:28:26 2005
From: rstetson at capps-assoc.com (Roy Lamberton)
Date: Thu Oct  6 06:29:10 2005
Subject: [NU Sports] NU Sports News Digest 10/4
Message-ID: <002501c5ca69$12411880$6500a8c0@DAVIDXP>

www.PurpleWildcats.com
for Purple Reign
& the NU Sports List



Over the Hump Edition

 Football - gettin' ready for Wisconsin, Injury bug back, and lots to read about
the Badgers and the rest of the Big 10. There's some recruiting news, and our
Golf Alumni are getting ready for the wekend.

                                                                  All the News
that Fits We Link
                                                                      Your Index
to News about
                                                                    Northwestern
University Athletics


FOOTBALL

     Pain in neck may force Wootton out
 
http://chicagosports.chicagotribune.com/sports/college/cs-051004colfootnu,1,3273
582.story?coll=cs-college-headlines 
     The Elusive "Total Wins by a Starter" Record
      http://northwestern.scout.com/2/447910.html 
     + Basanez one dangerous cat
      http://www.madison.com/wsj/home/sports/index.php?ntid=56559&ntpid=3 
     + Nominated for the Draddy Award - the Academ...
      http://scout.scout.com/a.z?s=179&p=9&c=2&cid=448038&nid=1873165&fhn=1 

     Randy Walker Talking Personnel
      http://northwestern.scout.com/2/447814.html 
     $ Big Ten teleconference: Randy Walker

     SportsXchange: Inside Slant
      http://msn.foxsports.com/cfb/teamReport?categoryId=86065&type=InsideSlant 
     + Notes & Quotes
 
http://msn.foxsports.com/cfb/teamReport?categoryId=86065&type=NotesAndQuotes 
     + Strategy and Personnel
 
http://msn.foxsports.com/cfb/teamReport?categoryId=86065&type=StrategyAndPersonn
el 

     Lowes Line: previews the Wisconsin game!
      http://hailtopurple.com/features/lowesline5j04.html 
     Gusbus: Wisconsin Preview
      http://www.thegusbus.com/2005wildcats/05week5.htm 

Next Up

     Wisconsin Badgers [10/8]
     Big Ten teleconference: Barry Alvarez
      http://story.scout.com/a.z?s=179&p=2&c=447829 
     $ What worries Barry Alvarez ?
      http://northwestern.scout.com/2/448031.html 
     + Alvarez wary of rested Wildcats [2nd Section of story]
      http://www.suntimes.com/output/campus/cst-spt-crep05.html 
     + Northwestern by less than 7
      http://www.jsonline.com/badger/fb/oct05/360940.asp 
     + Badgers Open Key Stretch Against Rested Northwestern
      http://www.collegesports.com/sports/m-footbl/stories/100405aee.html 
     + UW football notebook: Badgers are ready for Northwesterns
     ' ...
http://www.greenbaypressgazette.com/sports/archive/sports_22877240.shtml 
     + Alvarez to change practice format for Northwestern
      http://www.fortwayne.com/mld/newssentinel/12808258.htm 
     + UW banged up heading into Evansville [uh Evanston]
      http://www.collegesports.com/sports/m-footbl/uwire/100405aay.html 
     + Similar challenges face Wisconsin defense
      http://www.collegesports.com/sports/m-footbl/uwire/100405abo.html 
     + Badgers are ready for Northwesterns' ...
      http://www.greenbaypressgazette.com/sports/archive/sports_22877240.shtml 
     + Mandel: Stewart Mandel's Power Rankings: 'Bama rises to No. 5
 
http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2005/writers/stewart_mandel/10/04/power.ranking
s/index.html 
     $ Brandon Williams audio/quotes
      http://wisconsin.scout.com/2/448045.html 
     $ Young fullbacks thrust into spotlight
      http://wisconsin.scout.com/2/448148.html 
     + Backup fullbacks step into spotlight
 
http://www.dailycardinal.com/news/2005/10/05/Sports/Backup.Fullbacks.Step.Into.S
potlight-1009333.shtml 
     + Alvarez hoping to keep players fresh
      http://www.madison.com/tct/sports//index.php?ntid=56439&ntpid=0 
     + Badgers are ready for Northwesterns' spread offfense
      http://www.greenbaypressgazette.com/sports/archive/sports_22877240.shtml 
     + KIRK HERBSTREIT: A DAILY CARDINAL EXCLUSIVE
 
http://www.dailycardinal.com/news/2005/10/05/Sports/Kirk-Herbstreit.A.Daily.Card
inal.Exclusive-1009340.shtml 
     + Stocco prone to awkward throws
      http://www.jsonline.com/badger/fb/oct05/360913.asp 
     + UW winning battle for field position
      http://www.jsonline.com/badger/fb/oct05/360940.asp 
     + Notes: Two Badgers might return
      http://www.jsonline.com/badger/fb/oct05/360532.asp 

Future Big 10 Opponents:

     @ Purdue Boilermakers [10/15] 
     Purdue struggles against ranked opponents under Tiller's lead
 
http://www.purdueexponent.org/index.php/module/Issue/action/Article/article_id/1
172 
     + Football fans maintain unrealistic expectations for mediocre team
 
http://www.purdueexponent.org/index.php/module/Issue/action/Article/article_id/1
186 
     + Weekly Teleconference
 
http://purduesports.collegesports.com/sports/m-footbl/spec-rel/100405aab.html 
     + Deuces Wild
 
http://purduesports.collegesports.com/sports/m-footbl/spec-rel/100305aad.html 
     + Tiller questions team's maturity after 2-2 start
 
http://www.indystar.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20051005/SPORTS0602/510050424
/1004/SPORTS 
     + In the huddle: Purdue Boilermakers
 
http://www.indystar.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20051005/SPORTS0602/510050407
/1004/SPORTS 
     + Tiller expects defense to improve
 
http://www.boilerstation.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20051005/SPORTS020101/51
0050325/1122/BOILER 
     + Losses trouble Boilermakers
 
http://www.boilerstation.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20051005/SPORTS020101/51
0050324/1122/BOILER 

     @ Michigan State Spartans [10/22] Bye Week
     $ Open Competition for Kicking Job?
      http://michiganstate.scout.com/2/447796.html 
     + Smith, Baldwin lambaste Spartans for failing against U-M
 
http://www.mlive.com/spartans/stories/index.ssf?/base/sports-0/1128420633284680.
xml&coll=1 
     + MSU will use bye week to try to regain confidence
 
http://www.mlive.com/spartans/stories/index.ssf?/base/sports-0/1128334238182940.
xml&coll=1 

     Michigan Wolverines [10/29 Homecoming] 
     Michigan's record clearly shows it's gotta have Hart
 
http://chicagosports.chicagotribune.com/sports/college/cs-051004bigtennotes,1,51
70735.story?coll=cs-college-headlines 
     $ Monday Night Chat Highlights - Oct 3 Edition
      http://michigan.scout.com/2/448151.html 
     + After fumbling twice, safety looks to RB's coach for help
      http://www.michigandaily.com/vnews/display.v/ART/2005/10/05/43435fbfbb001 
     + Complacent no more: Barringer lifts U-M 
 
http://www.mlive.com/wolverines/aanews/football/index.ssf?/base/sports-1/1128435
006278310.xml&coll=2 

     Then its: 
     Iowa Hawkeyes [11/5] 
     @ Ohio State Buckeyes [11/12] 
     Illinois Fighting Illini [11/19]
     Lack of big plays is handcuffing offense
 
http://chicagosports.chicagotribune.com/sports/college/cs-051004colfootillini,1,
5144351.story?coll=cs-college-headlines 
     + Illini, Hoosiers don't view meeting as last chance
      http://www.suntimes.com/output/campus/cst-spt-crep05.html 

Miscellaneous Football News:

     Upon further review, replay favored
 
http://www.dailynorthwestern.com/vnews/display.v/ART/2005/10/05/434378c2b152d 

Recruiting

     After Nebraska Trip, It's Down To Two
      http://story.scout.com/a.z?s=179&p=2&c=448024 
     Faulkner Well Worth the Wait
      http://story.scout.com/a.z?s=179&p=2&c=447777 
     Jim O'Neill Tight End Holds Three Offers
      http://scout.scout.com/a.z?s=179&p=9&c=2&cid=447819&nid=1995006&fhn=1 
     Daverin Geralds Likes three
      http://scout.scout.com/a.z?s=179&p=9&c=2&cid=447541&nid=1781325&fhn=1 

BASKETBALL

     Another Purdue basketball player arrested
 
http://www.boilerstation.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20051004/SPORTS02010201/
510040315/1122/BOILER 

FIELD HOCKEY

     Wildcats Fall to No. 12 Hawkeyes, 4-3
      http://www.fansonly.com/schools/nw/sports/w-fieldh/recaps/100405aab.html 
     + Late rally falls short in Hawkeyes' victory
 
http://www.dailynorthwestern.com/vnews/display.v/ART/2005/10/05/43437e563687d 

GOLF

     Northwestern Wins Big Ten/Pac-10 Challenge; David Merkow Claims Individual
Crown
      http://www.fansonly.com/schools/nw/sports/m-golf/recaps/100405aaa.html 
     + Cats best national elite
 
http://www.dailynorthwestern.com/vnews/display.v/ART/2005/10/05/434376da1e2b6 
     More coverage:
     Men's Golf Finishes 6th at Big Ten/Pac-10 Challenge
 
http://ohiostatebuckeyes.collegesports.com/sports/m-golf/recaps/100405aaa.html 

     Silka: Team is central to NU golf
 
http://www.dailynorthwestern.com/vnews/display.v/ART/2005/10/05/43437be38d4f0 

SOCCER

     'U' women's soccer team shuts out Northwestern
      http://www.startribune.com/stories/503/5647385.html 

SWIMMING

     Matt Grevers Named to National 'A' Team
      http://www.fansonly.com/schools/nw/sports/m-swim/spec-rel/100405aaa.html 

TENNIS

     Men
     Northwestern Drops Doubles Match at 2005 Polo Ralph Lauren Championships
      http://www.fansonly.com/schools/nw/sports/m-tennis/recaps/100405aaa.html 
     Northwestern Set to Host Wildcat Invitational
      http://www.fansonly.com/schools/nw/sports/w-tennis/spec-rel/100405aab.html

     Women
     Alexis Prousis and Georgia Rose Compete at 2005 Riviera/ITA All-American
Championships
      http://www.fansonly.com/schools/nw/sports/w-tennis/recaps/100405aaa.html 

MISCELLANY

     DOT awards Northwestern $3.9 million grant
      http://www.wqad.com/Global/story.asp?S=3938064&nav=1sW7 
     NU in the middle of the discussion...
     Debate swirls where free speech and unpopular views merge
 
http://www.myrtlebeachonline.com/mld/myrtlebeachonline/news/nation/12815746.htm 

ALUMNI

     Mark Loretta: Padres, Peavy start off on wrong foot
 
http://sandiego.padres.mlb.com/NASApp/mlb/news/gameday_recap.jsp?ymd=20051004&co
ntent_id=1237350&vkey=recap&fext=.jsp&c_id=sd 
     + Had an RBI
 
http://sandiego.padres.mlb.com/NASApp/mlb/mlb/news/boxscore.jsp?gid=2005_10_04_s
dnmlb_slnmlb_1&c_id=mlb 
     In case you missed it, Ikechuku Ndukwe is still with the Saints - on the
Practice Squad

     PGA: [Links on Player's Name is their live scorecard]
     Luke Donald - is at the World Golf Championships- American Express
Championship.
      http://www.worldgolfchampionships.com/tournaments/r473 
     At the Gila River Golf Classic presented by Wild Horse Pass
      http://www.pgatour.com/tournaments/h076 
     Jess Daley - Not Scheduled 
     Tom Johnson - Apparently has withdrawn

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From thiegs at umn.edu  Thu Oct  6 13:45:32 2005
From: thiegs at umn.edu (Joe Thiegs)
Date: Thu Oct  6 13:49:13 2005
Subject: [NU Sports] NUMB Pregame Concert?
Message-ID: <000e01c5caa6$221bdb40$fb326580@jthiegs2003>

Does NUMB still do pregame concerts prior to home football games?

We're heading to Evanston tomorrow for our annual pilgrimage and we're
bringing our 3-year-old son to the game.  This will be his third NU game but
the first at which he'll have any idea about what's going on (he slept
through most of his first football game at five months, his mother left
early with him when he became too restless at age 1-1/2, and we missed last
year due to the birth of his sister, our second child--she's going to spend
Saturday morning and afternoon with my sister who just moved to Chicago,
while the other three of us go to the game).  Now, though, Jacob gets
excited when he sees football in person or on TV, and he spontaneously
breaks into complete renditions of Go U Northwestern and Rise, Northwestern
(okay, we don't know the words to Push On other than the chorus but I'm sure
we'll fix that thanks to Larry's web site (www.HailtoPurple.com)).  He also
knows all of the Alma Mater--which he calls "Hail to Thee Northwestern"--but
doesn't really sing that unless he hears it.  Every night he goes to sleep
to this CD:  http://www.numbalums.org/cd/.  This is not what I'd ordinarily
consider bedtime music, but, hey, if it works..  Anyway, this is just
background to illustrate why I think he'd get such a kick out of the pregame
concert if it still occurs.  If it will happen, what's the starting time?
An hour before game time?  Lots of thanks to any NUMBalums or others who
have answers.

-Joe


From jonathanwhodges at gmail.com  Thu Oct  6 13:53:52 2005
From: jonathanwhodges at gmail.com (Jonathan Hodges)
Date: Thu Oct  6 13:55:00 2005
Subject: [NU Sports] NUMB Pregame Concert?
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The NUMB pregame concert is 1 hour before kickoff (10AM this Saturday)
outside in Wildcat Alley, which is on the baseball field just beyond
Welsh-Ryan Arena.  There are always other festivities going on in
Wildcat Alley as well, which adds to a great pregame atmosphere.

Jonathan Hodges

On 10/6/05, Joe Thiegs <thiegs@umn.edu> wrote:
> Does NUMB still do pregame concerts prior to home football games?
>
> We're heading to Evanston tomorrow for our annual pilgrimage and we're
> bringing our 3-year-old son to the game.  This will be his third NU game but
> the first at which he'll have any idea about what's going on (he slept
> through most of his first football game at five months, his mother left
> early with him when he became too restless at age 1-1/2, and we missed last
> year due to the birth of his sister, our second child--she's going to spend
> Saturday morning and afternoon with my sister who just moved to Chicago,
> while the other three of us go to the game).  Now, though, Jacob gets
> excited when he sees football in person or on TV, and he spontaneously
> breaks into complete renditions of Go U Northwestern and Rise, Northwestern
> (okay, we don't know the words to Push On other than the chorus but I'm sure
> we'll fix that thanks to Larry's web site (www.HailtoPurple.com)).  He also
> knows all of the Alma Mater--which he calls "Hail to Thee Northwestern"--but
> doesn't really sing that unless he hears it.  Every night he goes to sleep
> to this CD:  http://www.numbalums.org/cd/.  This is not what I'd ordinarily
> consider bedtime music, but, hey, if it works..  Anyway, this is just
> background to illustrate why I think he'd get such a kick out of the pregame
> concert if it still occurs.  If it will happen, what's the starting time?
> An hour before game time?  Lots of thanks to any NUMBalums or others who
> have answers.
>
> -Joe
>
>
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http://jhodges.org

From thiegs at umn.edu  Thu Oct  6 14:02:43 2005
From: thiegs at umn.edu (Joe Thiegs)
Date: Thu Oct  6 14:02:42 2005
Subject: [NU Sports] NUMB Pregame Concert?
In-Reply-To: <fcb3ee270510061153oba502ebj74b689e3059a45e@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <001701c5caa8$8838d6b0$fb326580@jthiegs2003>

Thanks for the info, Jonathan!  We'll plan to be there.  I've never been to
Wildcat Alley (that's been going on for a few years now, right?) because
we're usually getting into Evanston barely early enough to make it to the
game on time.  This time, though, while we're still staying with friends in
more distant suburbs, I'll take the Metra with Jacob early and my wife will
drive down closer to game time.  That's the plan, anyway.  I'm hoping we'll
run into some listserv participants this year.  Go 'Cats!  -Joe

-----Original Message-----
From: Jonathan Hodges [mailto:jonathanwhodges@gmail.com] 
Sent: Thursday, October 06, 2005 1:54 PM
To: Joe Thiegs
Cc: nwu-sports@tssi.com
Subject: Re: [NU Sports] NUMB Pregame Concert?


The NUMB pregame concert is 1 hour before kickoff (10AM this Saturday)
outside in Wildcat Alley, which is on the baseball field just beyond
Welsh-Ryan Arena.  There are always other festivities going on in Wildcat
Alley as well, which adds to a great pregame atmosphere.

Jonathan Hodges

On 10/6/05, Joe Thiegs <thiegs@umn.edu> wrote:
> Does NUMB still do pregame concerts prior to home football games?
>
> We're heading to Evanston tomorrow for our annual pilgrimage and we're 
> bringing our 3-year-old son to the game.  This will be his third NU 
> game but the first at which he'll have any idea about what's going on 
> (he slept through most of his first football game at five months, his 
> mother left early with him when he became too restless at age 1-1/2, 
> and we missed last year due to the birth of his sister, our second 
> child--she's going to spend Saturday morning and afternoon with my 
> sister who just moved to Chicago, while the other three of us go to 
> the game).  Now, though, Jacob gets excited when he sees football in 
> person or on TV, and he spontaneously breaks into complete renditions 
> of Go U Northwestern and Rise, Northwestern (okay, we don't know the 
> words to Push On other than the chorus but I'm sure we'll fix that 
> thanks to Larry's web site (www.HailtoPurple.com)).  He also knows all 
> of the Alma Mater--which he calls "Hail to Thee Northwestern"--but 
> doesn't really sing that unless he hears it.  Every night he goes to 
> sleep to this CD:  http://www.numbalums.org/cd/.  This is not what I'd 
> ordinarily consider bedtime music, but, hey, if it works..  Anyway, 
> this is just background to illustrate why I think he'd get such a kick 
> out of the pregame concert if it still occurs.  If it will happen, 
> what's the starting time? An hour before game time?  Lots of thanks to 
> any NUMBalums or others who have answers.
>
> -Joe
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> nwu-sports site list
> nwu-sports@tssi.com 
> http://romaine.tssi.com/mailman/listinfo/nwu-sports
>


--
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Evanston, IL  60201-3259
(847) 736-2449
jonathanwhodges@gmail.com
http://jhodges.org

From MHRJGScott at aol.com  Fri Oct  7 08:14:44 2005
From: MHRJGScott at aol.com (MHRJGScott@aol.com)
Date: Fri Oct  7 08:49:00 2005
Subject: [NU Sports] Go Sox (white)
Message-ID: <96.316a2ab0.3077cec4@aol.com>

It looks like the NU-Wisky game will be on ESPN unless there is a fourth  
playoff game needed in Boston. Anybody know?
From rstetson at capps-assoc.com  Fri Oct  7 10:01:02 2005
From: rstetson at capps-assoc.com (Roy Lamberton)
Date: Fri Oct  7 10:01:22 2005
Subject: [NU Sports] Go Sox (white)
In-Reply-To: <96.316a2ab0.3077cec4@aol.com>
Message-ID: <003d01c5cb4f$efbbbbc0$6500a8c0@DAVIDXP>

They still have to play a game...tonight, but the weather looks pretty glum for
Boston all weekend.

The MLB site is listing the game as ESPN2 for tonight and ESPN tomorrow, if the
game is needed.

First they have to get the game in this afternoon [4 PM EST] and then the Sox
have to win in wonderful Fenway Park, a tough joint to beat the Red Sox.

BTW - the RedSox are throwing the "king of the knuckleball" Tim Wakefield.

rsl

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> -----Original Message-----
> From: nwu-sports-bounces@tssi.com 
> [mailto:nwu-sports-bounces@tssi.com] On Behalf Of MHRJGScott@aol.com
> Sent: Friday, October 07, 2005 9:15 AM
> To: nwu-sports@tssi.com
> Subject: [NU Sports] Go Sox (white)
> 
> 
> It looks like the NU-Wisky game will be on ESPN unless there 
> is a fourth  
> playoff game needed in Boston. Anybody know? 
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From jleonard518 at yahoo.com  Fri Oct  7 10:46:27 2005
From: jleonard518 at yahoo.com (Jim Leonard)
Date: Fri Oct  7 10:47:34 2005
Subject: [NU Sports] NU for Sale
In-Reply-To: <003d01c5cb4f$efbbbbc0$6500a8c0@DAVIDXP>
Message-ID: <20051007154627.3709.qmail@web30301.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

Fellow Wildcat Faithful,

I assume many of you get the same emails from Northwestern Athletics that I do.
Yesterday I got an email indicating that the 1995 Big Ten Champions flag is up
for auction. I believe the minimum bid is $750. 

I'm not sure what the logic is behind this decision, but something about it
doesn't feel right. This is the kind of item I'd like to see proudly displayed
at Dyche Stadium forever. Are we really in such a dire financial need? 

Victory & Honor,
Jim

PS - For the record, my current bid is $19.95


		
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From jeffb at hilgraeve.com  Fri Oct  7 10:59:24 2005
From: jeffb at hilgraeve.com (Jeff Beamsley)
Date: Fri Oct  7 11:03:43 2005
Subject: [NU Sports] Go Sox (white)
In-Reply-To: <003d01c5cb4f$efbbbbc0$6500a8c0@DAVIDXP>
Message-ID: <000d01c5cb58$167a6dd0$97492745@hilgraeve.com>

For those who aren't following baseball, the White Sox are starting Freddie
Garcia this afternoon.  He has a reputation of being a big game pitcher with
a 3-1 career record in Fenway and a 6-2 record in 12 lifetime starts against
the Red Sox.  

The Cats on the other hand are only 6.5 point underdogs.  The Cats are 10th
in the BT in defending the run.  Wisky is second (just ahead of Penn State).
NU is last defending against the pass but Wisky isn't that much better at
8th.  Wisky is last in pass offense, NU is 2nd.  So to win, NU has to take
away the run, force Wisky to pass, and not give up any big plays from
scrimmage.  Wisky is going to try to do the same thing.  So it comes down to
whether NU can stop the run enough to keep the game close and whether Baz
and his guys can win the game in the air.      

Hopefully both the White Sox and the Cats can move on with victories this
weekend (though I think the Cats face the greater challenge).

Jeff
   

-----Original Message-----
From: nwu-sports-bounces@tssi.com [mailto:nwu-sports-bounces@tssi.com] On
Behalf Of Roy Lamberton
Sent: Friday, October 07, 2005 11:01 AM
To: MHRJGScott@aol.com; nwu-sports@tssi.com
Subject: RE: [NU Sports] Go Sox (white)

They still have to play a game...tonight, but the weather looks pretty glum
for Boston all weekend.

The MLB site is listing the game as ESPN2 for tonight and ESPN tomorrow, if
the game is needed.

First they have to get the game in this afternoon [4 PM EST] and then the
Sox have to win in wonderful Fenway Park, a tough joint to beat the Red Sox.

BTW - the RedSox are throwing the "king of the knuckleball" Tim Wakefield.

rsl

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> -----Original Message-----
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> [mailto:nwu-sports-bounces@tssi.com] On Behalf Of MHRJGScott@aol.com
> Sent: Friday, October 07, 2005 9:15 AM
> To: nwu-sports@tssi.com
> Subject: [NU Sports] Go Sox (white)
> 
> 
> It looks like the NU-Wisky game will be on ESPN unless there is a 
> fourth playoff game needed in Boston. Anybody know?
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From rstetson at capps-assoc.com  Fri Oct  7 10:06:35 2005
From: rstetson at capps-assoc.com (Roy Lamberton)
Date: Fri Oct  7 11:48:03 2005
Subject: [NU Sports] NU Sports News Digest 10/7
Message-ID: <003e01c5cb50$b6e32990$6500a8c0@DAVIDXP>

www.PurpleWildcats.com
for Purple Reign
& the NU Sports List

Friday [more or less on time] Edition

Are you ready for Wisconsin? Or any of the other teams the Wildcats face this
weekend. Here's a slice of what's out there for NU fans.

                    All the News that Fits We Link
                      Your Index to News about
                  Northwestern University Athletics


FOOTBALL

     Beating Badgers could set tone for Northwestern
 
http://chicagosports.chicagotribune.com/sports/college/cs-051006nu,1,2089029.sto
ry?coll=cs-college-headlines 
     Cats' Cole vows to be on his toes vs. Badgers
      http://www.suntimes.com/output/campus/cst-spt-crep07.html 
     Risk Management
 
http://www.dailynorthwestern.com/vnews/display.v/ART/2005/10/07/434623aae4b46 
     Explosive offenses face off 
 
http://www.dailynorthwestern.com/vnews/display.v/ART/2005/10/07/4346313a59338 
     Talkin' with, about Coach Fitz...
     + Mr. Northwestern: Been there, done that
 
http://www.dailynorthwestern.com/vnews/display.v/ART/2005/10/07/43462c836537d 
     + A life-changing experience
      http://www.dailyherald.com/sports/sportsstory.asp?id=102984 

     Pregame Intel: Wisconsin Badgers
      http://northwestern.scout.com/2/449194.html 
     + Wisconsin at Northwestern Preview
 
http://www.realfootball365.com/college/articles/ncaa/wisconsin-northwestern-prev
iew071005.php 
     + (14) Wisconsin (5-0) At Northwestern (2-2)
      http://www.channel3000.com/sports/5060047/detail.html 
     + Basanez, Sutton main concern for UW
 
http://www.dailycardinal.com/news/2005/10/07/Sports/Basanez.Sutton.Main.Concern.
For.Uw-1013529.shtml 
     + Tom Luicci's picks
 
http://www.nj.com/sports/ledger/index.ssf?/base/sports-0/112866089672370.xml&col
l=1 

Next Up

     Wisconsin Badgers [10/8] 
     Zalewski anchors transitioning 'D'
 
http://www.dailynorthwestern.com/vnews/display.v/ART/2005/10/07/434626119cd4c 
     + 'Worst' now almost first
      http://www.madison.com/wsj/home/sports/index.php?ntid=56873&ntpid=2 
     + Badgers are ready for Northwesterns' ...
      http://www.greenbaypressgazette.com/sports/archive/sports_22877240.shtml 
     + UW football: Fullback tag team physical, but still learning 
      http://www.madison.com/tct/sports//index.php?ntid=56796&ntpid=1 
     + UW defense has been amazing after halftime
      http://www.jsonline.com/badger/fb/oct05/361447.asp 
     + UW bracing for Wildcat offense
      http://badgerherald.com/sports/2005/10/07/uw_bracing_for_wildc.php 

     ESPN or ESPN2 depends on the White Sox and the weather
     UW telecast depends on Sox 
      http://www.jsonline.com/badger/fb/oct05/361403.asp 

Future Big 10 Opponents:

     @ Purdue Boilermakers [10/15] Iowa 
     Failure to meet preseason hype daunts Boilermakers, Hawkeyes
 
http://www.purdueexponent.org/index.php/module/Issue/action/Article/article_id/1
215 
     + True character helps freshman through difficult times
 
http://www.purdueexponent.org/index.php/module/Issue/action/Article/article_id/1
234 
     + Several new freshmen will play against Iowa
 
http://www.purdueexponent.org/index.php/module/Issue/action/Article/article_id/1
236 
     + Behind the scenes with the voice of Ross-Ade Stadium, Purdue football
 
http://www.purdueexponent.org/index.php/module/Issue/action/Article/article_id/1
237 
     + Obscene shirts shame football fan
 
http://www.purdueexponent.org/index.php/module/Issue/action/Article/article_id/1
224 

     @ Michigan State Spartans [10/22] Bye Week 

     Michigan Wolverines [10/29 Homecoming] Minnesota 
     MT Looks Back at MSU Game, Ahead to Minnesota
      http://michigan.scout.com/2/449023.html 
     + Josh Turel's Minnesota Scouting Report
      http://michigan.scout.com/2/449178.html 
     + Blue readies for Maroney
      http://www.michigandaily.com/vnews/display.v/ART/2005/10/07/4346086d5768d 
     + Minn. hopes to end losing streak vs. Mich.
 
http://www.mlive.com/sportsflash/college/index.ssf?/base/sports-8/11286806411123
80.xml&storylist=bigten 
     + Minnesota, again, trying to figure out how to beat Michigan
 
http://www.mlive.com/sportsflash/college/index.ssf?/base/sports-14/1128651540771
60.xml&storylist=bigten 

     Then its:
     Iowa Hawkeyes [11/5]  Purdue
     @ Ohio State Buckeyes [11/12] Penn State
     Illinois Fighting Illini [11/19] Indiana


Miscellaneous Football News:

     Paterno's legendary career back on fast track
 
http://www.usatoday.com/sports/college/football/bigten/2005-10-06-paterno_x.htm?
csp=34 
     Katrina damage blows Sugar Bowl to Atlanta 
 
http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/rssclick/2005/football/ncaa/10/06/bc.fbc.bourbo
ntopeachtr.ap/index.html?section=si_ncaaf 

Recruiting

     Ferla lists NU as a favorite
     Anthony Ferla Friday Night Lights - St. Joe's vs Don Bosco
      http://story.scout.com/a.z?s=179&p=2&c=448988 

BASKETBALL

     Former Tennis Doubles player is also a "mad bomber"
     Justin Hoeveler - A word to the wise: The "Overrated!" chant is just that
 
http://daily.stanford.edu/tempo?page=content&id=14706&repository=0001_article 
     [Thanks Greg]

FENCING

     Wildcats Open 2005-06 Season; Host USFA Burton at Patten Gym
      http://www.fansonly.com/schools/nw/sports/w-fenc/spec-rel/100605aaa.html 

FIELD HOCKEY

     No. 7 IU pushing for 7th straight win over Wildcats
      http://www.idsnews.com/subsite/story.php?id=31630&adid=sports 

SOCCER

     Women:
     Women's soccer
 
http://www.dailynorthwestern.com/vnews/display.v/ART/2005/10/07/43460c94c46e7 


     Men:
     Wildcats Hit the Road Again to Face Nittany Lions
      http://www.fansonly.com/schools/nw/sports/m-soccer/spec-rel/100605aaa.html

     + Subs bring same results
 
http://www.dailynorthwestern.com/vnews/display.v/ART/2005/10/07/434607c940def 

TENNIS

     Women At the  Riviera/ITA -
      Alexis Prousis Reaches Round of 16 at 2005 Riviera/ITA All-American
Championships
      http://www.fansonly.com/schools/nw/sports/w-tennis/recaps/100605aag.html 
     + Prousis Advances, Grier doesn't
      http://www.collegetennisonline.com/view/news.aspx?nwId=20549 
     + Saturday and Sunday matches on www.RadioTennis.com
      http://www.radiotennis.com/ 
     + The Draws from ITA
 
http://www.edraws.com/Tournament/Draw_Maker_64.asp?trid=110&evid=WS&ctid=OPE&run
d=1&trnam=Riviera/ITA+Women%60s+All-American+Championships+%28Qualifying%29 

VOLLEYBALL

     All In
 
http://www.dailynorthwestern.com/vnews/display.v/ART/2005/10/07/43460b2180cf6 

     No. 4 Penn State Women's Volleyball Travels To Northwestern, No. ...
 
http://www.gopsusports.com/pressreleases/pressrelease.cfm?anncid=8639&spID=28 

MISCELLANY

     Big story about NU working on Bio detection equipment
     Boeing, Ford and Northwestern University To Launch Technology R&D ...
      http://www.luchtzak.be/article10222.html 
     + Ford, Boeing, Northwestern form alliance
 
http://www.sciencedaily.com/upi/index.php?feed=Science&article=UPI-1-20051006-14
550900-bc-us-alliance.xml 

     NU offers students chance to get 30 seconds of fame
 
http://www.dailynorthwestern.com/vnews/display.v/ART/2005/10/06/4344c9204066c 

ALUMNI

     Luis is now the starter 
     Luis Castillo: talks about wearing the powder blues
      http://www.chargers.com/news/headline_detail.cfm?news_key=2350 

     PGA: [Links on Player's Name is their live scorecard]
     Luke Donald 
      http://www.worldgolfchampionships.com/players/scorecard/291587/r473/2005 
     - is at the World Golf Championships- American Express Championship.
      http://www.worldgolfchampionships.com/tournaments/r473 
     Donald is Even, tied for 27th

     The guys on the Nationwide Tour...
     Jess Daley  + Tom Johnson

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From WildElk2 at aol.com  Fri Oct  7 19:14:08 2005
From: WildElk2 at aol.com (WildElk2@aol.com)
Date: Fri Oct  7 19:21:55 2005
Subject: [NU Sports] The stick will go boom
Message-ID: <da.2e84da19.30786950@aol.com>

   I will give it to Alvarez.   Bucky is 5-0 after 5 games, you can't do 
better.  However, as we know by now, this is the kind of team that can be stopped 
if we put 7-8 in the box, and dare Bucky to beat us by air.  Factor in wins 
vs. under-achieving Bowling Green and Michigan, and retreads Indiana and Temple, 
plus a nice win on the road against a .500 North Carolina team, add a second 
week in a row vs. a rested team, and all signs point to Northwestern winning 
this game.
   Our balanced attack will have an easier time of it than we had vs. State 
Penn, and we'll get enough stops to allow our O to do their thing. I predicted 
that we'll beat either Penn St. or Wiscinsin to achieve a 3-2 start.  I'm not 
backing away from that prediction now;  I predict an easy Northwestern win 
tomorrow; the field goals of 2 weeks ago will turn into touchdowns; the stick 
goes boom; CATS 45 WISKY 28.

GO CATS!!!                 Eric
From MHRJGScott at aol.com  Sat Oct  8 12:05:33 2005
From: MHRJGScott at aol.com (MHRJGScott@aol.com)
Date: Sat Oct  8 12:07:01 2005
Subject: [NU Sports] So much red, so little purple
Message-ID: <7d.72da453b.3079565d@aol.com>

My first CATS! game on my big plasma HDTV and all I see are the empty  seats 
and the Whisky fans. Why doesn't the student body and the third largest  city 
population jam Dyche for the closest thing we have to a rivalry.
Stop the run and we can win this game. 
From NEONRye at aol.com  Sat Oct  8 12:42:13 2005
From: NEONRye at aol.com (NEONRye@aol.com)
Date: Sat Oct  8 12:46:20 2005
Subject: [NU Sports] So much red, so little purple
Message-ID: <9.4e09a37c.30795ef5@aol.com>

I was just thinking the same thing, watching on ESPN--why are there empty  
seats in the end zone and in the upper deck?  This game was always a  sellout or 
a near sellout.   I think the loss to Penn State hurt (the  attendance), but 
this much?
 
Paul Levinson
From nolan at romaine.tssi.com  Sat Oct  8 13:52:57 2005
From: nolan at romaine.tssi.com (Mike Nolan)
Date: Sat Oct  8 13:53:00 2005
Subject: [NU Sports] I went to watch a football game but saw a track meet
Message-ID: <200510081852.j98IqvEI011923@romaine.tssi.com>

Can either defense stop the other side here?

Baz is having one of his best games ever, he should hire the ESPN crew next 
year to help him prepare for the NFL draft, they're falling over with praise.
--
Mike Nolan

From MHRJGScott at aol.com  Sat Oct  8 13:52:12 2005
From: MHRJGScott at aol.com (MHRJGScott@aol.com)
Date: Sat Oct  8 13:56:12 2005
Subject: [NU Sports] So much red, so little purple
Message-ID: <1e9.45f7a51b.30796f5c@aol.com>

Well, they missed seeing in person one of the most entertaining 3rd  quarters 
in NU history. If Baz and Sutton continue to roll we could have us an  upset.
From nolan at romaine.tssi.com  Sat Oct  8 15:08:15 2005
From: nolan at romaine.tssi.com (Mike Nolan)
Date: Sat Oct  8 15:08:17 2005
Subject: [NU Sports] Walker's greatest win?
Message-ID: <200510082008.j98K8FAk012413@romaine.tssi.com>

This one has to rank up there with the Michigan game and last year's
win against the Buckeyes.  That loss to Penn State stings even more now.

What a nice retirement present we gave Barry.  :-)
--
Mike Nolan

From jmccull at insight.rr.com  Sat Oct  8 15:24:18 2005
From: jmccull at insight.rr.com (jmccull@insight.rr.com)
Date: Sat Oct  8 15:24:37 2005
Subject: [NU Sports] Sutton for Heisman
Message-ID: <cf3756cf46d6.cf46d6cf3756@columbus.rr.com>

I have never seen a running back this good. Granted, I don't watch a 
lot of college football, but MAN can he run. He has such field vision 
and elusiveness. It's uncanny how he can get hit three yards behind 
the line and then carry three defenders past the first down marker. If 
he stays healthy, we are going to see our first Heisman trophy winner 
at Northwestern. Bold prediction? Yes, but with our O-line playing 
well (and being relatively young), we can expect big things in the 
next few years.

We might have a difficult year next year with the change in QB. 
However, in 2007 and 2008 the team should be stocked with mature 
talent and Tyrell will be the premiere RB in the nation.

Let's just not have a head coaching change. Sure, let's fire the DC, 
but I don't want a disruption like a coaching change to throw us off 
the path.

J.R.

From NEONRye at aol.com  Sat Oct  8 16:54:31 2005
From: NEONRye at aol.com (NEONRye@aol.com)
Date: Sat Oct  8 16:55:54 2005
Subject: [NU Sports] Sutton for Heisman
Message-ID: <1c1.3271bd59.30799a17@aol.com>

If the Heisman is the goal--and TS will certainly now be among the  
"mentioned" going into next season--then Coach Walker has to stay, as he  understands 
running backs better than most Head Coaches, having been one  himself, and he 
recruited our frosh stud.  The last thing Tyrell needs is  to have the rug 
pulled out from under him with a new HC and new Offensive  Coordinator.  In any 
event, barring a collapse from here to the end of  the season, RW probably saved 
his job with today's upset.  The team  played well and played hard and played 
with heart and spirit, although the lack  of a pass rush is just impossible 
to overlook.  We gave Stocco enough time  to read the Yellow Pages on most 
plays when he dropped back.   
 
 Meanwhile, Mr. Basanez stepped up in class today and may have gotten  
himself into contention in next Spring's NFL Draft.  He can throw and he  can run 
and he can think and react under pressure.   I think a lot of  teams could at 
least envision him as a decent back-up, although at 6'2" and 215,  he is not the 
classic NFL QB size in these days of behemoths behind  center.
 
Paul Levinson
From thehaze at earthlink.net  Sat Oct  8 17:04:05 2005
From: thehaze at earthlink.net (Jim Bendat)
Date: Sat Oct  8 17:07:57 2005
Subject: [NU Sports] I don't mean to tell you "I told you so" but . . .
Message-ID: <43484255.70400@earthlink.net>

  Very exciting win today.  Almost too exciting.  After a lot of people 
on this list were talking doomsday after the last game, here's what I wrote:

-------- Original Message --------
Subject: Re: [NU Sports] Rueful Realist
Date: Sat, 24 Sep 2005 18:09:50 -0700
From: Jim Bendat <thehaze@earthlink.net>
To: nwu-sports@tssi.com
References: <d1.31e49630.3067312e@aol.com>



Tough day indeed.  Much of it was was glorious in the early going, with 
the Cats leading and with me talking with my daughter who was in the 
student section at Ryan for the first time.  She was definitely fired 
up, as we all were at that point.  But forget that 2-9 talk.  We need a 
week off to regroup, then we will be back.  No time for depression.  We 
will beat Wisconsin.  Yes, we will beat Wisconsin.  -- JB


From michael.vance at att.net  Sat Oct  8 17:33:29 2005
From: michael.vance at att.net (michael.vance@att.net)
Date: Sat Oct  8 17:34:16 2005
Subject: [NU Sports] Walker's greatest win?
Message-ID: <100820052233.5313.43484939000751C5000014C121612436460A0C020E90D2040A0E080C0703@att.net>

Speaking of Barry, we saw one of the oddest things I've ever seen after the game today.  We're standing there in the East Lot enjoying some post-game cheer when all of a sudden Barry Alvarez, an older couple, and a priest, all being escorted by two police officers (couldn't tell whether they were Evanston or DPS) walk up to the Cadillac in the row behind us load up and get in.  The elderly gentleman drove, with Barry in the passenger seat and the older lady and the priest in the back.

We had all sorts of theories (the leading one was that the elderly couple were big Chicago-area Wisconsin boosters or just personal friends and Barry was having dinner with them before heading back to Madison), but I have to say that it's the first time I have ever heard of, much less seen, the opposing coach leaving the stadium by wading through a lot filled with tailgaters.  Very odd indeed.

--
Michael 
mailto:michael@vance.com


-------------- Original message from Mike Nolan <nolan@romaine.tssi.com>: -------------- 


> This one has to rank up there with the Michigan game and last year's 
> win against the Buckeyes. That loss to Penn State stings even more now. 
> 
> What a nice retirement present we gave Barry. :-) 
> -- 
> Mike Nolan 
> 
> _______________________________________________ 
> nwu-sports site list 
> nwu-sports@tssi.com 
> http://romaine.tssi.com/mailman/listinfo/nwu-sports --
Michael, CAS '91
mailto:michael@vance.com

From tkmaycock at yahoo.com  Sat Oct  8 19:28:40 2005
From: tkmaycock at yahoo.com (Tom Maycock)
Date: Sat Oct  8 19:29:48 2005
Subject: [NU Sports] I don't mean to tell you "I told you so" but . . .
In-Reply-To: <43484255.70400@earthlink.net>
Message-ID: <20051009002840.68563.qmail@web33109.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

I'd say you're entitled to an "I told you so". And hats off to Eric for
the bold prediction this morning--missed the score by a little bit, but
not a lot. I thought we had a decent chance, but if you had told me
ahead of time that Wisky would post 48 points....

Heck of a game. One of my thoughts at the end was that I was happy that
the '95 guys didn't have to go home having witnessed a really painful
loss. They deserved to see an exciting win like that.

The Cats have hosted some unbelievably exciting games over the last
year and half. No, they haven't won all of them, but they've been
competitive every time out, and THAT is a pleasant, and important,
change. And I'm getting my money's worth on every ticket. 

Tom




--- Jim Bendat <thehaze@earthlink.net> wrote:

>   Very exciting win today.  Almost too exciting.  After a lot of
> people 
> on this list were talking doomsday after the last game, here's what I
> wrote:
> 
> -------- Original Message --------
> Subject: Re: [NU Sports] Rueful Realist
> Date: Sat, 24 Sep 2005 18:09:50 -0700
> From: Jim Bendat <thehaze@earthlink.net>
> To: nwu-sports@tssi.com
> References: <d1.31e49630.3067312e@aol.com>
> 
> 
> 
> Tough day indeed.  Much of it was was glorious in the early going,
> with 
> the Cats leading and with me talking with my daughter who was in the 
> student section at Ryan for the first time.  She was definitely fired
> 
> up, as we all were at that point.  But forget that 2-9 talk.  We need
> a 
> week off to regroup, then we will be back.  No time for depression. 
> We 
> will beat Wisconsin.  Yes, we will beat Wisconsin.  -- JB
> 
> 
> _______________________________________________
> nwu-sports site list
> nwu-sports@tssi.com
> http://romaine.tssi.com/mailman/listinfo/nwu-sports
> 

From warneradams at comcast.net  Sat Oct  8 19:30:33 2005
From: warneradams at comcast.net (warneradams)
Date: Sat Oct  8 19:31:23 2005
Subject: [NU Sports] Epic Game
Message-ID: <200510090031.j990VJbl024365@gw.tssi.com>

Some other thoughts:

 

Outstanding football weather today and 80% NU fans in my section (10 yard
line, south end of west stands).  Northern Illinois seemed to fill the place
more than Wisconsin fans did.  Certainly there was a sea of red but the
purple filled up their block of the east stands too.  How do so many
Wisconsin fans get great tailgating spots in the east and west parking lots?
I thought those spots were reserved for NU season ticket holders who give
extra $$$.

 

Sutton was a big story but so were the special teams.  The missed xp was bad
but our return game is so much better than in previous years. 

Barry Alvarez ends his career 3-5 at Ryan Field.  Since my sophomore year
(1985) when the Cats broke a 13 game losing streak with a win at Camp
Randall, NU is 10-9 against the Badgers.

I thought we missed a great opportunity at the end of the first half when
Baz didn't throw into the end zone on 3rd and goal.  What happened there?  

The fan with the white Wisconsin Calhoun jersey in front of us enjoyed
standing up and saluting every first down to the NU fans around him.
Usually shouting the word "Houn" when he did it.  His final message to us
was the middle finger as he bolted for the tunnel with the score 51-34.  His
girl friend must be proud.

My seven month old daughter is now 3-0 after staying with a baby sitter for
the PSU game.  We'll be heading to Purdue next weekend to make it four in a
row.

 

I like to watch the game again when I get home so it was more than a little
upsetting to find out my TIVO recorded Va Tech-Marshall instead.  What are
the chances I can pay someone to make a tape of the game for me?  This one
needs to go into the vault.

 

David Warner

Evanston

 

 

 

From prplehaze at insightbb.com  Sat Oct  8 19:59:20 2005
From: prplehaze at insightbb.com (Mark S. Ament)
Date: Sat Oct  8 20:00:31 2005
Subject: [NU Sports] Epic Game
In-Reply-To: <200510090031.j990VJbl024365@gw.tssi.com>
References: <200510090031.j990VJbl024365@gw.tssi.com>
Message-ID: <43486B68.3080204@insightbb.com>

Some thoughts after following up the epic win with watching Louisville 
demolish UNC.

I will take back only part of what I have said about Walker in the last 
couple of weeks.  The team came out and played with spirit and fire 
today.  They flew to the ball all over the field.  The offense executed 
about as well as they can possibly execute and the offensive game plan 
was a masterpiece.  While I had believed going in that we had a good 
chance to win, I never dreamed we could put up more than 50 points.

BUT, I also never believed that we were going to have to put up more 
than 50 points to win.  Let's not get too enamored with the win to 
overlook the shortcomings of this defense and its scheme.  While Walker 
undoubtedly erased any doubts about his return next year, I for one 
think almost all of his defensive staff (except Fitz, of course) ought 
to be up for release.  That defense is a disgrace.

Right now, Penn State is up 14-3 with 5 minutes to go in the 2nd 
quarter.  A win here gives them the lead in the Big Ten and a major leg 
up in the race for the title, and if our defense had played halfway 
decent in the second half, NU should have easily beaten PSU.  To me, the 
coaching staff had as much to do with losing the Penn State game as the 
players.

Enough negativity for now.  Let's celebrate a great win with outstanding 
performances by Baz and Tyrell and let's all give thanks that Maurice 
Clarett lost his suit against the NFL so Tyrell will be with us for at 
least two more years.

From rstetson at capps-assoc.com  Sat Oct  8 20:35:29 2005
From: rstetson at capps-assoc.com (Roy Lamberton)
Date: Sat Oct  8 20:36:09 2005
Subject: [NU Sports] Walker's greatest win?
In-Reply-To: <100820052233.5313.43484939000751C5000014C121612436460A0C020E90D2040A0E080C0703@att.net>
Message-ID: <004a01c5cc71$bb64bfc0$6500a8c0@DAVIDXP>

It goes to show that the Roman Catholic church doesn't have the pull in Chicago
that it used to have 

;-]

rsl

++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
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Computer Applications & Support Associates
and Publisher of Purple Reign, 
The Scout.com Northwestern University Site
(http://www.purplewildcats.com)
AIM Handle: CoachRoy74

=============== Go Cats ====================

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Biz handled 
            -- There's another upgrade.

============ Beat 'em All ================== 

> -----Original Message-----
> From: nwu-sports-bounces@tssi.com 
> [mailto:nwu-sports-bounces@tssi.com] On Behalf Of 
> michael.vance@att.net
> Sent: Saturday, October 08, 2005 6:33 PM
> To: nwu-sports@romaine.tssi.com
> Subject: Re: [NU Sports] Walker's greatest win?
> 
> 
> Speaking of Barry, we saw one of the oddest things I've ever 
> seen after the game today.  We're standing there in the East 
> Lot enjoying some post-game cheer when all of a sudden Barry 
> Alvarez, an older couple, and a priest, all being escorted by 
> two police officers (couldn't tell whether they were Evanston 
> or DPS) walk up to the Cadillac in the row behind us load up 
> and get in.  The elderly gentleman drove, with Barry in the 
> passenger seat and the older lady and the priest in the back.
> 
> We had all sorts of theories (the leading one was that the 
> elderly couple were big Chicago-area Wisconsin boosters or 
> just personal friends and Barry was having dinner with them 
> before heading back to Madison), but I have to say that it's 
> the first time I have ever heard of, much less seen, the 
> opposing coach leaving the stadium by wading through a lot 
> filled with tailgaters.  Very odd indeed.
> 
> --
> Michael 
> mailto:michael@vance.com
> 
> 
> -------------- Original message from Mike Nolan 
> <nolan@romaine.tssi.com>: -------------- 
> 
> 
> > This one has to rank up there with the Michigan game and last year's
> > win against the Buckeyes. That loss to Penn State stings 
> even more now. 
> > 
> > What a nice retirement present we gave Barry. :-)
> > -- 
> > Mike Nolan 
> > 
> > _______________________________________________
> > nwu-sports site list 
> > nwu-sports@tssi.com 
> > http://romaine.tssi.com/mailman/listinfo/nwu-sports --
> Michael, CAS '91
> mailto:michael@vance.com
> 
> _______________________________________________
> nwu-sports site list
> nwu-sports@tssi.com 
> http://romaine.tssi.com/mailman/listinfo/nwu-sports
> 

From rstetson at capps-assoc.com  Sat Oct  8 20:44:24 2005
From: rstetson at capps-assoc.com (Roy Lamberton)
Date: Sat Oct  8 20:44:49 2005
Subject: [NU Sports] If you worked for IBM
Message-ID: <004b01c5cc72$fa984b70$6500a8c0@DAVIDXP>

And 2 of your top sales guys quit before the quarter started...

Would you get fired because you lost a couple of close deals?

Then why does everyone want to can Colby because we're in a flux over the
defense.

We're playing 2 frosh because there is nobody else. Highlights of play today
included Mark Koehn making a few plays on the edge, where he'd been lost a year
ago, Decent pressure with a 4 man rush against 5 really good O Linemen.

2 CBs who have not had a lot of starting time, actually 3 CBs without a lot of
start time. Oh yeah, a frosh safety too.

As a guy who just took over a the DC of our youth team, I'm getting tired of the
picking at our NU coaches. With my 12 year olds, I've got kids with more time in
their positions than some of NU's. We can fire everyone but then we have to fire
Fitz 'cause the LBs missed their share of plays today too.

rsl

++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
Roy S. Lamberton - Senior Associate
Computer Applications & Support Associates
and Publisher of Purple Reign, 
The Scout.com Northwestern University Site
(http://www.purplewildcats.com)
AIM Handle: CoachRoy74

=============== Go Cats ====================

Every time I think I've got this Computer 
Biz handled 
            -- There's another upgrade.

============ Beat 'em All ================== 


From nolan at romaine.tssi.com  Sat Oct  8 20:57:01 2005
From: nolan at romaine.tssi.com (Mike Nolan)
Date: Sat Oct  8 20:57:03 2005
Subject: [NU Sports] If you worked for IBM (fwd)
Message-ID: <200510090157.j991v1Yq016687@romaine.tssi.com>

> And 2 of your top sales guys quit before the quarter started...
> 
> Would you get fired because you lost a couple of close deals?

Um, knowing IBM, you'd either get fired or get promoted.  :-)
--
Mike Nolan

From jmccull at insight.rr.com  Sat Oct  8 22:22:02 2005
From: jmccull at insight.rr.com (J.R. McCullough)
Date: Sat Oct  8 22:22:02 2005
Subject: [NU Sports] The long ball
Message-ID: <000e01c5cc80$9e293cb0$6601a8c0@jroffice01>

Looks like the team worked on the long ball during the bye week. This is the most I've seen NU throw down field successfully in a long time. It definitely looked like Baz was being more patient in the pocket -- waiting for things to develop on the longer pass patterns. Hopefully this is a sign of things to come. We will need the long ball later in the season to open up those running lanes for Sutton.

On a different note, I am very confident going into Purdue next week. Iowa made them look awful this week. I don't think they will be able to stop us at all. As of last week, their pass defense was ranked 11th in the Big Ten. Baz should be able to tear them apart. Tiller's program is reeling, while we are on an emotional high coming off the big win. Let's see some senior leadership to sustain the momentum. 

A win at Purdue and Illinois leaves us only one win shy of a bowl game. Michigan under the lights on homecoming is a perfect storm. I also wouldn't count us out of the Iowa game at home on Senior day.

Go Cats!
From johnl at mac.com  Sat Oct  8 22:53:20 2005
From: johnl at mac.com (John Labbe)
Date: Sat Oct  8 23:58:03 2005
Subject: [NU Sports] I don't mean to tell you "I told you so" but . . .
In-Reply-To: <20051009002840.68563.qmail@web33109.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
References: <20051009002840.68563.qmail@web33109.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <91635a020d503bbff94dd5861854725f@mac.com>

But unlike many of our exciting wins, I was happy that we were never 
coming from behind once we took the lead in the third quarter.  
Actually, I can't remember another big win like this (close, exciting, 
and a big upset) where we weren't coming from behind (or trying to 
break a tie) at some point fairly late in the game.

Now, I don't mean to excuse our giving up 2 TDs late, but still, we 
kept the lead once we took it.  Our six straight touchdowns were 
amazing.



On Oct 8, 2005, at 7:28 PM, Tom Maycock wrote:

> I'd say you're entitled to an "I told you so". And hats off to Eric for
> the bold prediction this morning--missed the score by a little bit, but
> not a lot. I thought we had a decent chance, but if you had told me
> ahead of time that Wisky would post 48 points....
>
> Heck of a game. One of my thoughts at the end was that I was happy that
> the '95 guys didn't have to go home having witnessed a really painful
> loss. They deserved to see an exciting win like that.
>
> The Cats have hosted some unbelievably exciting games over the last
> year and half. No, they haven't won all of them, but they've been
> competitive every time out, and THAT is a pleasant, and important,
> change. And I'm getting my money's worth on every ticket.
>
> Tom
>
>
>
>
> --- Jim Bendat <thehaze@earthlink.net> wrote:
>
>>   Very exciting win today.  Almost too exciting.  After a lot of
>> people
>> on this list were talking doomsday after the last game, here's what I
>> wrote:
>>
>> -------- Original Message --------
>> Subject: Re: [NU Sports] Rueful Realist
>> Date: Sat, 24 Sep 2005 18:09:50 -0700
>> From: Jim Bendat <thehaze@earthlink.net>
>> To: nwu-sports@tssi.com
>> References: <d1.31e49630.3067312e@aol.com>
>>
>>
>>
>> Tough day indeed.  Much of it was was glorious in the early going,
>> with
>> the Cats leading and with me talking with my daughter who was in the
>> student section at Ryan for the first time.  She was definitely fired
>>
>> up, as we all were at that point.  But forget that 2-9 talk.  We need
>> a
>> week off to regroup, then we will be back.  No time for depression.
>> We
>> will beat Wisconsin.  Yes, we will beat Wisconsin.  -- JB
>>
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> nwu-sports site list
>> nwu-sports@tssi.com
>> http://romaine.tssi.com/mailman/listinfo/nwu-sports
>>
>
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From TyJLevine at aol.com  Sun Oct  9 00:06:01 2005
From: TyJLevine at aol.com (TyJLevine@aol.com)
Date: Sun Oct  9 00:26:46 2005
Subject: [NU Sports] If you worked for IBM
Message-ID: <45.325e8436.3079ff39@aol.com>

Roy,
 
I tend to agree with you.  In light of the fact that NU doesn't get  "that" 
many top players year in and year out I can't imagine us ever having a  great 
offense and a great defense in the same year.
 
However, I think even Walker was a little miffed when Wiscy scored twice in  
a row in the second half.  The camera was right on walker and you could  read 
his lips and he was talking into his head set saying "that was two long  
scores in a row."
 
Walker clearly knows that there are problems on defense  we all wonder  who 
he holds responsible and would a coaching change in the off-season make any  
difference.
From Alan.Abrahamson at latimes.com  Sun Oct  9 00:19:44 2005
From: Alan.Abrahamson at latimes.com (Abrahamson, Alan)
Date: Sun Oct  9 00:48:37 2005
Subject: [NU Sports] my pal jim's "i told you so"
Message-ID: <6A0419188B49A54C960893D230C26807084AE45E@goose.latimes.com>

 Let's all enjoy Jim Bendat's "I told you so." 
 I believe that was me he was pointing out as one of the primary "doomsayers." Though he is of course much too polite to name names ... :> 
 That was a great win today. A great win.
 Let me again reiterate my significant concerns about this team even as I once again proclaim my fond hope that they run the table. Nothing would make me happier than six more Big Ten wins. 
 It's clear the Big Ten is up for grabs. I still can't believe Penn State won tonight and I'm far from convinced they are for real. So that leaves the Cats right there with, what, six or seven other teams with one loss? OK, so the Cats are in the hunt. Excellent! Sutton appears to be the kind of program-making player Northwestern has not had in years, if ever. (Poor Brandon Roberson. He is Wally Pipp in purple and pads ...)
 My concern, however, to be obvious, is that this Wildcat defense gives up points and yards and big plays in breathtaking gasps and that we can hardly expect the offense to put up 51 in every game. If this team had a tough defense, we'd all be talking Rose Bowl. And I mean this year's Rose Bowl, as in national championship.
 But it doesn't. Alas.
 To whip out one of the most hoary numbers from the cliche bag, it's now one week at a time. 
 Also, just a thought: I have never believed that Walker's job was/is on the line. I don't think this game today did anything one way or the other. My take, without any inside information, is that Mark Murphy thinks the team is generally competitive and, critically, the kids are graduating. If those are the two most common-sense criteria, why would he move to get rid of the coach?
 Let's all enjoy this win -- kudos again to Jim for his optimism ...
 Still your realist -- and would love nothing better than a raft of "I told you so's" at the end of the year -- Alan
 PS: My newest idea for toughening up the defense would be to send them to a Transcendental Meditation class. There they could all learn the same meditation chant. It would go like this: "Is-mae-li, Is-mae-li, o yes Is-mae-li ..."
 
 
 

From sjtruog at yahoo.com  Sun Oct  9 00:47:44 2005
From: sjtruog at yahoo.com (SjT (Stephen J. Truog))
Date: Sun Oct  9 00:48:54 2005
Subject: [NU Sports] Walker's greatest win?
In-Reply-To: <200510082008.j98K8FAk012413@romaine.tssi.com>
Message-ID: <20051009054744.27247.qmail@web52904.mail.yahoo.com>

Nah ... it was a nice win, don't get me wrong (ANY win
over the hated Badgers is good! And as you said, we
can now send Barry out the same way we sent Hayden
out:) ). 

But this one didn't have the feel of Michigan 2000,
Wisconsin 2000 or OSU 2004 ... maybe we're just
getting used to these types of games in Evanston. It
was certainly entertaining to watch (and agonizing for
the ticker and stomach!:) ) but didn't seem as "big"
as those.

As for the attendance on TV - it was gray and overcast
and Chicago now has White Sox fever (some folks even
remember that there's a place called Comiskey Park on
the other side of town:) ) so attention was diverted
elsewhere.  It's certainly not the product on the
field that's hurting attendance, as I'd stack the last
five years of NU home games with any other place in
the nation in terms of big wins, thrilling finishes
and exciting (too exciting at times) football. It's
just the combo of a pro market (ask Minny/ASU), a
small alumni base and the -- deserved or not --
"elitist" view of NU. We're not the state's school.

But who cares ... sending thousands of Badger fans
home sad is always fun.:) Wisconsin didn't send their
usual amount either so I dunno if the Cheeseheads are
still in a Packer mope or just didn't get that excited
about a 5-0 start this year. But the one thing I do
like about when UW visits - their fans seem to get OUR
fans to cheer more and our small numbers made some
nice noise.

Not Walker's greatest win, but perhaps one he needed
the most? Whatever the case a wonderful win over
Wisconsin.:)

GO CATS!!!
-SjT

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From sjtruog at yahoo.com  Sun Oct  9 00:50:29 2005
From: sjtruog at yahoo.com (SjT (Stephen J. Truog))
Date: Sun Oct  9 00:51:41 2005
Subject: [NU Sports] Sutton for Heisman
In-Reply-To: <1c1.3271bd59.30799a17@aol.com>
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> If the Heisman is the goal--and TS will certainly
> now be among the  
> "mentioned" going into next season--then Coach
> Walker has to stay, as he  understands 
> running backs better than most Head Coaches, having

Not only that, but Sutton seems to fit perfectly into
the scheme at NU. I'm just more and more amazed at
this kid each week. He is special.

>  Meanwhile, Mr. Basanez stepped up in class today
> and may have gotten  
> himself into contention in next Spring's NFL Draft. 

I still dunno if he has the size for the NFL, but he's
maturing into one heck of a college QB and a great
leader.

GO CATS!!!
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From sjtruog at yahoo.com  Sun Oct  9 01:04:21 2005
From: sjtruog at yahoo.com (SjT (Stephen J. Truog))
Date: Sun Oct  9 01:12:10 2005
Subject: [NU Sports] my pal jim's "i told you so"
In-Reply-To: <6A0419188B49A54C960893D230C26807084AE45E@goose.latimes.com>
Message-ID: <20051009060421.43669.qmail@web52912.mail.yahoo.com>

>  Let me again reiterate my significant concerns
> about this team even as I once again proclaim my
> fond hope that they run the table. Nothing would
> make me happier than six more Big Ten wins. 

Six might do it this year.:) As I said after PSU
though -- I can see NU beating anyone left on the
schedule save OSU (and maybe even them now - but they
still have the D to shut us down), but it's tough for
me to see us putting together a string of rows against
a schedule that's so brutal week in and week out.

But it's clear for ND and Iowa that Purdue's passing
defense is as porous as ours, so we could be in for
another thriller next week. Take it one week at a time
and beat Purdue and we'll see what happens.

>  It's clear the Big Ten is up for grabs. I still
> can't believe Penn State won tonight and I'm far
> from convinced they are for real. So that leaves the

But it's getting tougher and tougher to doubt 'em --
they crushed Minny who won at Ann Arbor. At least it
makes our loss to them look a bit more respectable,
even if we should have won that game (too bad ASU is
falling apart vs. the Quacks).

>  My concern, however, to be obvious, is that this
> Wildcat defense gives up points and yards and big
> plays in breathtaking gasps and that we can hardly
> expect the offense to put up 51 in every game. If

Welcome to the new Big Ten ... looks like the Pac 10
last decade.:) Seriously, OSU and PSU appear to be the
class of the Big Ten defenses this year. MSU, Purdue,
Wisconsin, Minnesota and more have given up huge
chunks via air and land this year. 29 just isn't
enough to win anymore ... 39 might not be enough.:)

>  Also, just a thought: I have never believed that
> Walker's job was/is on the line. I don't think this
> game today did anything one way or the other. My

But I think Walker may have at least been using that
as a motivator -- he was fired up on the sidelines, he
opened up the O a LOT and he thrives on this "us
against the world" mentality.

>  PS: My newest idea for toughening up the defense
> would be to send them to a Transcendental Meditation
> class. There they could all learn the same
> meditation chant. It would go like this: "Is-mae-li,
> Is-mae-li, o yes Is-mae-li ..."

:) - mine is to use our alumni clout to successfully
rally congress to pass a law reducing the number of
downs from 4 to 3 ... we seem to get to 3rd down a lot
but then give up 3rd and 16 or 3rd and 12 too easy. I
almost feel better if we have a 3rd and 2 against us
because McGarrigle and Roach might make a play.

But a nice win over our hated rivals from the north -
3 of the last 4 in the series too.

GO CATS!!!
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From sjtruog at yahoo.com  Sun Oct  9 01:28:07 2005
From: sjtruog at yahoo.com (SjT (Stephen J. Truog))
Date: Sun Oct  9 01:29:17 2005
Subject: [NU Sports] WILDCAT WRAP - NU 51, #14 Wisconsin 48
Message-ID: <20051009062807.43227.qmail@web52901.mail.yahoo.com>

Northwestern opened up the offense 
 and the offense
opened a can of whuppin? on 14th-ranked Wisconsin?s
defense Saturday in a 51-48 shootout win for the Cats.
It was a football score that topped many of the
basketball scores these two have played in recent
years with Bill Carmody and Dick Bennet in charge 

and the funny thing is that when the teams went to the
locker room at halftime, it was a 17-10 slugfest that
gave fans no warning of the wild shootout it was about
to become.

The only clue might have been on the last couple
drives each team had the second quarter. Wisconsin
found success pounding the ball with a two-headed
rushing attack and the Cats were starting to move it
with a  nice mix of slashing runs up the middle and
deep passes ? but NU?s last two drives resulted in
only 3 points despite all the movement because of a
bad snap fumble at midfield and an ill-advised spike
on third down by Brett Basanez to kill the clock with
9 seconds left before half instead of trying for the
end zone. But it was obvious heading into halftime
that NU?s offensive coordinators had seen something to
exploit in the Wisconsin defense and they continued to
hammer it after the break in one of the more
impressive second halves put together by an NU
offense. There were just too many scores to keep track
of and the action was as fast as a tennis return,
giving the crowd whiplash at times.

But this is Dyche Stadium, and nothing comes easy.
Both teams decided to send their defenses home early
for the second half (seriously, I think the yardlines
made more tackles on the day than the D, tripping Baz
and a couple other runners up) and what we got was an
offensive blitz unrivaled since the 54-51 classic with
Michigan in 2000 that ? as usual ? kept Wildcat fans
holding their breath until the final seconds. There
were so many big plays by both offenses after the
break ? and so many displays of atrocious defense on
both sides ? that old lady mo?s head was on a swivel
and neither side could seize on the chance to gain
momentum fully.

Going back to our discussion after Penn State, 29
points just isn?t enough to win in the Big Ten
anymore. It?s a year of offense and after a 37-point
outburst from both teams in the third quarter, it was
clear that 40 wasn?t going to be enough on this day.
Thankfully for NU fans, Brett Basanez was up to the
task and led six consecutive scoring drives and six
second-half touchdown drives for the Wildcats.

The biggest difference (aside from Baz getting back to
spreading it around to a variety of receivers) was
NU?s aggressiveness in throwing the deep ball. We
threw it downfield 10 or more yards in addition to the
short curls, and Baz was pinpoint in his accuracy on a
pretty windy and overcast day in Evanston. The deep
ball success kept the D from stacking the box and the
O-line and superfrosh Tyrell Sutton took advantage
with some huge runs and big yards-after-contact
numbers in the second half. This in turn led to some
nice play-action calls to spring more deep balls and
the offense was clicking in perfection for the second
half.

Wisconsin kept pace until the end and mounted a
comeback that fell short in the final minutes with a
perfect coffin-corner punt by NU and a defensive
interception (at least we got one stop!), but the
Badgers were playing from behind from the early third
quarter on and NU never gave up the lead after it was
23-17. It was an amazing offensive display, aided by
solid special teams and a couple plays from the D in
terms of sacks by Tim McGarrigle and turnovers 
 but
the D still needs to improve. A lot. A heckuva lot.

But it was heartening to see the Cats come out with a 
lot of fire after the bye week and it was obvious they
worked on adding new wrinkles on offense and defense.
The offense wasn?t going to settle for field goals
this week and the coaching was much more aggressive in
play calling.

One other side note ? a good amount of players from
the 1995 Championship team were on the field at
halftime. It?s hard to believe a decade has passed
already, but between the introductions at halftime and
highlights on the video board, it was a good day for
good memories. It was also remarkable to look at the
group on the field and think of how few of them would
be recognized by name outside of Evanston 
 and how
few of them ever took a snap in the NFL. Probably
fewer than any other league champ in that decade span.
It just goes to show what an amazing group of student
athletes we had then and how they can still serve as
an inspiration to teams today ? it?s not all
recruiting or speed times. If you play together and
play with heart, the sky?s the limit. Great to see the
team again and encouraging to see a lot of the Cats
players on the field today displaying that same
grittiness and fire.

Any win over Wisconsin is a good win and it?s
especially sweet to send Barry Alvarez out the same
way we sent our old pal Hayden out on his last visit
to Evanston. It?s true that we?re a couple plays from
being 1-4 at this point, but we?re also a play from
being 4-1 
 so at this point we?ll have to take 3-2
and head forward one week at a time. Purdue is
beatable if we stay on fire on O and bring a little D
at least. Great day, (another) great finish and a
great win.

GAME BALLS
* Tyrell Sutton ? I can?t express how much I love this
kid right now ? and I find more to love every game I
see him. Against PSU, he showed that ability to squirt
through small holes and slip under tackles. Against
Wisconsin, Sutton showed surprising strength ? often
driving piles of Badger tackles forward 3 or 4 yards
before going down. This kid gets more amazing every
game and it?s not too early to start mentioning him in
the ?freshman of the year? talks. A special player who
fits perfectly into NU?s attack and is growing by
leaps and bounds every week. Cats fans are gonna love
watching this kid the next four years.
* Brett Basanez ? Baz needed to be on his game today
and he was razor sharp ? great accuracy, poise and he
spread it all around the field. And he followed
Sutton?s lead and would drag the pile forward on a few
of his runs today. He didn?t let the mistake of
spiking it right before half get to him and led his
team to an amazing second half of offensive
near-perfection. THAT?s what a senior
quarterback/leader is supposed to do ? well done, Baz!
* Tim McGarrigle ? OK, it wasn?t a banner day for the
defense, but it sure wasn?t because of a lack of
effort from #41. It seemed like the PA announcer was
calling his name every play and he got some nice
pressure and made a lot of hustle plays. Every week,
this guy resembles his coact Fitz more and more ? a
tireless worker who was passed over by other schools
for lack of size or speed but makes up for it in his
heart and smarts.

THINGS TO WORK ON
* Defense. We seem to get to 3rd down fine, but then
give up huge chunks of yardage on 3rd and 12 or 3rd
and 16. The front seven was decent today, but these
secondary problems are really starting to hurt.
* Stupid penalties. After not having many this year so
far, we saw them return today ? wiping out a big
kickoff return from the non-play side of the field
with holding, some drive-killing penalties early, etc.
Get smart, guys!
* Keeping momentum ? in a game and in the season. The
second half was the longest our O has sustained being
in the zone 
 let?s keep extending that next week in
West Lafayette.

AROUND THE LEAGUE
* This is shaping up to be one unbelievably wild Big
Ten race! PENN STATE looks like they?ve grown by leaps
and bounds since they were in Evanston two weeks ago
and got JoePa a HUGE win against OHIO STATE in Happy
Valley. Their reward? A trip to traditional nemesis
and freshly embarrassed Michigan.
* Speaking of Big Blue, how can they explode on O
against MSU and then clam up again at home against a
MINNESOTA squad coming off a thrashing at PSU? Nice
bounceback by the Gophers (who?ll get the angry
Badgers next week), but it?s still puzzling how Lloyd
wastes such offensive talent every other week. This
may have been an elimination game in the Big Ten race,
just as MSU/OSU could be next week.
* And speaking of elimination, IOWA stayed alive but
PURDUE continued to crumble. Hopefully their funk
continues at least one more week and we can exploit
their passing D like ND and Iowa have done the last
couple weeks.
* And don?t look now, but INDIANA is 4-1. They don?t
play the Cats, but if they can pull off an upset in
the next few weeks (and given the way the Big Ten is
going, who knows what an upset is anymore?!), the old
buckey game could be worth a bowl bid for the
Hoosiers.

Another wild week in the league. As I said last week,
I think we have the capabilities to beat anyone left
on our schedule (except OSU, but even they look human
now???) 
 it?s all going to come down to how well we
can put a streak together against a rough schedule.
Gotta just focus on Purdue and beat the Boilers this
week ? then worry about the rest.

But it does go to show the depth (and
unpredictability) of the league that 8 teams have been
ranked from the Big Ten so far this year and at least
8 appear to be bowl bound ? but 10 still appear to
have legit hopes of heading someplace warm for
Christmas and it?s mid-October.

Just another wild day at Ryan Field.
GO CATS!!!
-SjT

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From nolan at romaine.tssi.com  Sun Oct  9 01:30:07 2005
From: nolan at romaine.tssi.com (Mike Nolan)
Date: Sun Oct  9 01:30:31 2005
Subject: [NU Sports] todays games
Message-ID: <200510090630.j996U7pJ019791@romaine.tssi.com>

Well, after watching Oregon contain ASU, in the desert at night, I can see
just how far this year's team has to go to be considered 'great', though
after today's game they're not going to be overlooked by their upcoming
Big 10 opponents.  Let's hope Purdue looks as inconsistent next week as
they did this week, and both Baz and the D look as sharp as in the 3rd 
quarter today.  

I think Penn State's real enough, I just don't know if any school in the
Big 10 has the ability to go undefeated this year.  

The Big XII is looking like Texas and the 11 dwarves, the only reason Texas
Tech is still undefeated is they got a lucky break in Lincoln today when a
Husker defender intercepted a pass with about a minute to go in the game
and didn't fall down with it, enabling TT to knock it out of his hands
and get the ball back to score the winning TD with 12 seconds left.

Would somebody, ANYBODY (even N*D*) PLEASE knock off USC!!  
--
Mike Nolan

From jleonard518 at yahoo.com  Sun Oct  9 10:35:51 2005
From: jleonard518 at yahoo.com (Jim Leonard)
Date: Sun Oct  9 10:43:37 2005
Subject: [NU Sports] Sutton and Walker
In-Reply-To: <200510090630.j996U7pJ019791@romaine.tssi.com>
Message-ID: <20051009153551.4235.qmail@web30312.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

Fellow Wildcat Faithful,

This is for entertainment purposes only.

1) NCAA marks for most rushing yards by a freshman (1,616)
ESPN currently projects Sutton to have 1,698

2) most 200-yard games by a freshman (four)
Sutton already has 2 (NIU and Wisconsin)

3) average yards per game by a freshman (146.9)
Sutton's current average is 154.4

4) most all-purpose yards by a freshman (1,805) 
ESPN currently projects Sutton to have 176 receiving (1,874 all purpose)

5) and most rushing touchdowns by a freshman (15)
Sutton already has 11 and ESPN projects 24

6)...finished third in Heisman balloting as a freshman...
TBD in December

Oh, and this post isn't about Randy Walker. The stats above are from 
Herschel Walker's 1980 freshman season. 

Victory & Honor,
Jim


	
		
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From BSchooler at aol.com  Sun Oct  9 12:20:27 2005
From: BSchooler at aol.com (BSchooler@aol.com)
Date: Sun Oct  9 12:24:23 2005
Subject: [NU Sports] Need Tape of Wisconsin Game
Message-ID: <159.5b25a410.307aab5b@aol.com>

I will pay all costs associated with mailing, etc. I tried to kill two birds 
with one stone and have a combined tape of the Northwestern and Texas wins 
yesterday. Unfortunately, the Northwestern portion omits the third quarter and 
that win deserves a complete game tape. Thanks.

Bob Schooler
From thehaze at earthlink.net  Sun Oct  9 12:27:12 2005
From: thehaze at earthlink.net (Jim Bendat)
Date: Sun Oct  9 12:31:31 2005
Subject: [NU Sports] my pal jim's "i told you so"
References: <6A0419188B49A54C960893D230C26807084AE45E@goose.latimes.com>
Message-ID: <434952F0.5030406@earthlink.net>

Okay, okay, I was optimistic that we'd beat Wisconsin.  But what I was 
really saying after the Penn State loss was that there was no way we'd 
finish 2-9.  We obviously have big holes on defense, but it looks like 
much of the Big Ten has similar issues.  I don't think we'll run the 
table.  We're 3-2 now.  All I want is for us to win at least 3 of our 
last 6 games, finish at least 6-5, go to a bowl game -- and win it.  If 
we do better than that, great.  But if this team -- with so few 
returning starters -- can actually win a bowl game, that would be 
something for our history books -- Jim B.
Abrahamson, Alan wrote:

> Let's all enjoy Jim Bendat's "I told you so." 
> I believe that was me he was pointing out as one of the primary "doomsayers." Though he is of course much too polite to name names ... :> 
> That was a great win today. A great win.
>
>  
>



From BSchooler at aol.com  Sun Oct  9 19:13:08 2005
From: BSchooler at aol.com (BSchooler@aol.com)
Date: Sun Oct  9 19:25:54 2005
Subject: [NU Sports] Internet Interaction Between Texas and Michigan & tOSU
	Fans
Message-ID: <60.5f832455.307b0c14@aol.com>

It's been interesting to see the difference between how Michigan and Ohio 
State fans interact with Texas fans on the internet. In short, there is a virtual 
love fest going on between the Texas and Michigan fans and on going antipathy 
between the Texas and Ohio State fans. It's like night and day. 

Bob Schooler
From sjtruog at yahoo.com  Sun Oct  9 21:21:56 2005
From: sjtruog at yahoo.com (SjT (Stephen J. Truog))
Date: Sun Oct  9 21:23:07 2005
Subject: [NU Sports] todays games
In-Reply-To: <200510090630.j996U7pJ019791@romaine.tssi.com>
Message-ID: <20051010022157.59500.qmail@web52913.mail.yahoo.com>

> Well, after watching Oregon contain ASU, in the
> desert at night, I can see
> just how far this year's team has to go to be
> considered 'great', though

Yeah - that surprised me a bit. I think ASU had a
really big USC hangover and just laid a big ole egg.

> Big 10 opponents.  Let's hope Purdue looks as
> inconsistent next week as
> they did this week, and both Baz and the D look as
> sharp as in the 3rd 

Purdue worries me because an 0-2 Big Ten team at home
is really a cornered dog waiting to attack. We're
gonna have to be real sharp and come out smoking like
we did out of the locker room Saturday (I'm still
amazed when I read the stats and all today).

> I think Penn State's real enough, I just don't know
> if any school in the
> Big 10 has the ability to go undefeated this year.  

Yup - facing Michigan in Ann Arbor after a loss when
Lloyd Carr has your number to begin with is a tough
task. Win that and they should be OK until the final
game at MSU, but it's gonna be tough in the Big Ten.

I really don't see anyone in the Big Ten or SEC making
it through unscathed this year (yet another reason
Auburn deserved to be in the title game last year --
anyone who makes it through the Big Ten or SEC
unbeaten and is not #1 or #2 is an outrage). But I'm
sure the old-guard would love to see a return to the
top 5 of Bama and PSU.

> The Big XII is looking like Texas and the 11
> dwarves, the only reason Texas
> Tech is still undefeated is they got a lucky break
> in Lincoln today when a

Yikes - saw that finish in O'Hare. Tough break for UNL
after that big loss last year at Tech. It's hard to
see anybody in the Little 12 knocking off Texas this
year. 

What could be interesting is that if VaTech and FSU
run the table (which is doubtful for both IMO) and
then play each other in a whopper of an opening for
the new ACC title game, does that give them the clout
to leap ahead of Texas ... especially since the Horns'
biggest win this year may wind up being OSU and the
Bucks may not win the Big Ten? Hmm ...

> Would somebody, ANYBODY (even N*D*) PLEASE knock off
> USC!!  

UGH - I hate this game every year. Who do you root
against more?:) My only fear is that if it's ND who
knocks off the Trojan machine, the Irish will be
vaulted up to #1 and we'll hear even more yakking in
the media about those darned leprechauns.

Personally, I hope for an SC pasting of the Irish and
a ND slip later (maybe Tennessee?) to keep them out of
the BCS and get someone else an open bid (it's bad
enough the Big Least will still get a bid).

As for SC, that December showdown with UCLA gets
bigger and bigger each week. The Bruins get ASU at
home and could roll into that LA showdown unbeaten as
well.

And as for the Sutton Heisman talk -- I think it's
safe to say he's not going to be invited to New York
(heck, Vince Young may be the only non-Trojan invited
at this pace). But he sure is a special kid and if he
continues to grow each week, we may have the national
freshman of the year in purple and something big to
build on for next year.

Gonna be a fun year ... the Big Ten race alone looks
like a lot of fun. And just think, if we'd have gotten
7 instead of 3 against PSU right now, we'd be alone
atop the league standings unbeaten!

GO CATS!!!
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From r.beckwith at sbcglobal.net  Sun Oct  9 22:53:47 2005
From: r.beckwith at sbcglobal.net (Roger Beckwith)
Date: Sun Oct  9 23:20:38 2005
Subject: [NU Sports] ESPNU Rebroadcast
Message-ID: <000201c5cd4e$3837a080$210110ac@DELL>

The ESPNU schedule shows the Wisconsin game being rebroadcast on Monday from
2:00 - 5:00pm Central time.  Their schedule seems to be pretty changeable,
however.

 

Roger Beckwith 

From clzahn at mindspring.com  Sun Oct  9 23:15:01 2005
From: clzahn at mindspring.com (Clark Zahn)
Date: Sun Oct  9 23:32:29 2005
Subject: [NU Sports] Game tape wanted?
Message-ID: <4349EAC5.1060601@mindspring.com>

I believe someone besides BSchooler wanted a tape of the game, but I 
deleted the email.  If anothe list member would like a tape send me an 
email.

Clark

From rstetson at capps-assoc.com  Mon Oct 10 06:24:29 2005
From: rstetson at capps-assoc.com (Roy Lamberton)
Date: Mon Oct 10 06:25:02 2005
Subject: [NU Sports] Internet Interaction Between Texas and Michigan &
	tOSUFans
In-Reply-To: <60.5f832455.307b0c14@aol.com>
Message-ID: <004c01c5cd8d$2e5e1e10$6500a8c0@DAVIDXP>

I wonder why?

Could it come down to school colors? - OU/OSU both red [ok Scarlet]

Idle speculation on a Monday morning...

rsl

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> Sent: Sunday, October 09, 2005 8:13 PM
> To: nwu-sports@romaine.tssi.com
> Subject: [NU Sports] Internet Interaction Between Texas and 
> Michigan & tOSUFans
> 
> 
> It's been interesting to see the difference between how 
> Michigan and Ohio 
> State fans interact with Texas fans on the internet. In 
> short, there is a virtual 
> love fest going on between the Texas and Michigan fans and on 
> going antipathy 
> between the Texas and Ohio State fans. It's like night and day. 
> 
> Bob Schooler
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From rstetson at capps-assoc.com  Mon Oct 10 06:41:38 2005
From: rstetson at capps-assoc.com (Roy Lamberton)
Date: Mon Oct 10 06:48:44 2005
Subject: [NU Sports] NU Sports News Digest 10/9
Message-ID: <004d01c5cd8f$94802290$6500a8c0@DAVIDXP>

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Game/Weekend Wrap Edition

                                              All the News that Fits We Link
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     Northwestern Knocks Off No. 14 Wisconsin!
      http://nusports.collegesports.com/sports/m-footbl/recaps/100805aaa.html 
     + Box Score
      http://nusports.collegesports.com/sports/m-footbl/stats/100805aaa.html 
     + Quotes
      http://nusports.collegesports.com/sports/m-footbl/recaps/100805aao.html 
     + Notes
      http://nusports.collegesports.com/sports/m-footbl/recaps/100805aai.html 
     + Photo Gallery
      http://nusports.collegesports.com/sports/m-footbl/spec-rel/100805aab.html 
     + Vote For Sutton! Tyrell One of Four Players Nominated for the
Cingular/ABC Sports All-America Player of the Week Award
      http://www.fansonly.com/schools/nw/sports/m-footbl/spec-rel/100905aab.html

     + Tim McGarigle Named Walter Camp National Defensive Player of the Week
      http://www.fansonly.com/schools/nw/sports/m-footbl/spec-rel/100905aac.html


     "We have some weapons" NU 51 UW 48
      http://northwestern.scout.com/2/449652.html 
     $ Talking Northwestern Offense
      http://northwestern.scout.com/2/449699.html 
     + SjT: View From the Stands
      http://northwestern.scout.com/2/449822.html 

     Northwestern rocks Wisky
 
http://chicagosports.chicagotribune.com/sports/college/cs-051008northwesterngame
r,1,4090068.story?coll=cs-college-headlines 
     + Teddy Greenstein: 2nd-half stampede
 
http://chicagosports.chicagotribune.com/sports/college/cs-051008teddy,1,3107842.
column?coll=cs-college-headlines 
     + Almost defenseless
 
http://chicagosports.chicagotribune.com/sports/college/cs-051008nubits,1,2431844
.story?coll=cs-college-headlines 
     + Resilient Cats win slugfest
      http://www.suntimes.com/output/campus/cst-spt-nu09.html 
     + Monster bash: Sutton life of offense's party
      http://www.suntimes.com/output/campus/cst-spt-jenn09.html 
     + Basanez, Sutton try out new stand-up routine
      http://www.dailyherald.com/sports/northwestern.asp?id=103614 
     + NU wins another thriller
      http://www.dailyherald.com/sports/northwestern.asp?id=103661 
     + College Football: Northwestern 51, No. 14 Wisconsin 48
      http://www.dailysouthtown.com/southtown/dssports/pro/092sd1.htm 
     + Northwestern Notebook
      http://www.dailysouthtown.com/southtown/dssports/pro/092sd2.htm 
     + Defense rests in NU's upset
      http://www.nwherald.com/SportsSection/366325156859420.php 
     + NU hands No. 14 UW first loss in 51-48 shootout
 
http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2005/football/ncaa/10/08/uw.northwestern.ap/ 
     + Northwestern upsets #14 Wisconsin in 51-48 shootout
 
http://www.realfootball365.com/college/articles/ncaa/northwestern-wisconsin-reca
p081005.php 
     + Northwestern outlasts Wisconsin in Big Ten shootout
 
http://www.sportsnetwork.com/default.asp?c=sportsnetwork&page=/cfoot/news/AFN398
3498.htm 
     + Running back leads Wildcat strike
      http://www.jsonline.com/badger/fb/oct05/361827.asp 
     + hammering Wisconsin for 674 yards
      http://hailtopurple.com/cats5j09a.html 

     Wisconsin Badgers
     NU 51 - Badgers 48
      http://northwestern.scout.com/2/449633.html 
     + Nightmare in Evanston
      http://story.scout.com/a.z?s=179&p=2&c=449692 
     + No defense: Badgers drop 51-48 shootout
      http://story.scout.com/a.z?s=179&p=2&c=449695 
     $ Badger trio's huge day overshadowed
      http://story.scout.com/a.z?s=179&p=2&c=449700 
     + Football postgame notes
      http://story.scout.com/a.z?s=179&p=2&c=449703 
     + Reaches 8,000 yards
      http://scout.scout.com/a.z?s=179&p=9&c=2&cid=449607&nid=1873165&fhn=1 
     + Football notebook: Offense held by call
      http://story.scout.com/a.z?s=179&p=2&c=449848 
     + Mike Lucas: Wondering about the Wonderlic, and Calhoun
      http://www.madison.com/tct/sports//index.php?ntid=57064&ntpid=0 
     + COMMENTARY: Bielema receives humbling initiation
      http://www.madison.com/wsj/home/sports/index.php?ntid=57105&ntpid=2 
     + Northwestern 51, No. 14 Wisconsin 48+
      http://www.madison.com/tct/sports//index.php?ntid=57084&ntpid=19 
     + UW defense ground into submission 
      http://www.jsonline.com/badger/fb/oct05/361824.asp 
     + Hunt: Bielema's 'D' breaks down 
      http://www.jsonline.com/badger/fb/oct05/361820.asp 
     + NU keeps Williams from getting kicks 
      http://www.jsonline.com/badger/fb/oct05/361822.asp 
     + Report Card: Grading the Badgers
      http://www.jsonline.com/badger/fb/oct05/361823.asp 
     + Deteriorating defense
      http://www.wisinfo.com/postcrescent/sports/archive/sports_22925889.shtml 
     + Badgers waste outburst on offense
      http://www.wisinfo.com/postcrescent/sports/archive/sports_22927566.shtml 
     + UW Q&A: 
      http://www.wisinfo.com/postcrescent/sports/archive/sports_22927605.shtml 

Next Up

     @ Purdue Boilermakers [10/15] 
     Tate, Iowa have a lot to celebrate
      http://www.suntimes.com/output/campus/cst-spt-purd09.html 
     + Boilermakers' struggles continue with loss to Iowa
 
http://www.indystar.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20051009/SPORTS0602/510090470
/1004/SPORTS 
     + Iowa duo too elusive for Purdue defense
 
http://www.boilerstation.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20051009/SPORTS020101/51
0090353/1122/BOILER 
     + Boilers not taking loss well
 
http://www.boilerstation.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20051009/SPORTS020101/51
0090356/1122/BOILER 
     + Don't blame players for Purdue's woeful defense
 
http://www.boilerstation.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20051004/COLUMNISTS14/51
0040316/1122/BOILER 

Future Big 10 Opponents:

     @ Michigan State Spartans [10/22] Bye Week 

     Michigan Wolverines [10/29 Homecoming] Minnesota 
     Gophers claim prize with last-second victory
      http://www.suntimes.com/output/campus/cst-spt-mich09.html 
     + Can Michigan regroup after jug-ular hit?
      http://www.detnews.com/2005/um/0510/09/C01-342065.htm 
     + Gophers dig deep to get historic win
      http://www.detnews.com/2005/um/0510/09/C09-342047.htm 
     + Flag planting irks U-M's Hart 
      http://www.detnews.com/2005/um/0510/09/C09-342046.htm 
     + Gophers take the Jug 
      http://www.twincities.com/mld/twincities/sports/colleges/12855197.htm 

     Then its: 
     Iowa Hawkeyes [11/5]  Purdue 
     @ Ohio State Buckeyes [11/12] Penn State
     Penn State back among the elite
      http://www.suntimes.com/output/campus/cst-spt-osu09.html 

     Illinois Fighting Illini [11/19] Indiana 
     Illini out of step
 
http://chicagosports.chicagotribune.com/sports/college/cs-051008illinoisgamer,1,
7503643.story?coll=cs-college-headlines 
     + Illini, Hoosiers battle of lightweights
 
http://chicagosports.chicagotribune.com/sports/college/cs-051007illini,1,6237512
.story?coll=cs-college-headlines 
     + Hoosiers feast on Illini mistakes
      http://www.suntimes.com/output/campus/cst-spt-ill09.html 
     + Ugly loss makes Zook realize it's worse than he thought
      http://www.suntimes.com/output/campus/cst-spt-herb09.html 
     + Illini can't find answers at Indiana
      http://www.dailyherald.com/sports/illinois.asp?id=103638 
     + Indiana 36, Illinois 13
      http://www.dailysouthtown.com/southtown/dssports/pro/092sd3.htm 
     + Powers has career day to lead Hoosiers over Illini
 
http://www.indystar.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20051009/SPORTS0601/510090424
/1004/SPORTS 

     College Football: Big Ten/State Roundup
      http://www.dailysouthtown.com/southtown/dssports/pro/092sd4.htm 

Miscellaneous Football News:

     Northwestern College plays football doubleheader
      http://www.startribune.com/stories/503/5659009.html 

Recruiting

     John Lubischer Senior Video of Rising Fla. Tight End
      http://scout.scout.com/a.z?s=179&p=9&c=2&cid=449212&nid=1848355&fhn=1 

     Brendan Mitchell - 3 More TDs in 53-14 win over Lake Forest [IL]
      http://www.ohio.com/mld/ohio/sports/high_school/12858120.htm 
     + Reserve logs convincing win over Culver Academy
      http://www.wra.net/newsevents/release.cfm?article=758 

FENCING

     Wildcats Hosted the Burton Open Saturday at Patten Gym
      http://www.fansonly.com/schools/nw/sports/w-fenc/recaps/100805aaa.html 

FIELD HOCKEY

     Wildcats Edged by No. 7 Indiana
      http://www.fansonly.com/schools/nw/sports/w-fieldh/recaps/100805aab.html 
     + No. 7 Hoosiers Down Northwestern, 3-1
      http://www.collegesports.com/sports/w-fieldh/stories/100805aar.html 

SOCCER

     Women:
     Wildcats Come Up Short at Michigan State, 2-1
      http://www.fansonly.com/schools/nw/sports/w-soccer/recaps/100905aaa.html 
     Northwestern Suffers 3-2 Loss at Michigan
      http://nusports.collegesports.com/sports/w-soccer/recaps/100705aab.html 

     Men:
     Match With Princeton Postponed
      http://www.fansonly.com/schools/nw/sports/m-soccer/spec-rel/100805aab.html

     Wildcats Fall to Conference Foe Penn State, 4-1
      http://nusports.collegesports.com/sports/m-soccer/recaps/100705aaa.html 
     + Nittany Lions pour it on in win over Northwestern 
     http://www.centredaily.com/mld/centredaily/sports/12849694.htm 

TENNIS

     Women
     Day One at the Wildcat Invitational
      http://www.fansonly.com/schools/nw/sports/w-tennis/recaps/100805aab.html 
     Alexis Prousis Reaches Round of 16 at 2005 Riviera/ITA All-American
Championships
      http://nusports.collegesports.com/sports/w-tennis/recaps/100605aag.html 

VOLLEYBALL

     No. 18 Ohio State Escapes Northwestern, 3-2
      http://www.fansonly.com/schools/nw/sports/w-volley/recaps/100805aab.html 
     + No. 18 Women's Volleyball Wins, 3-2, at Northwestern
 
http://ohiostatebuckeyes.collegesports.com/sports/w-volley/recaps/100805aaa.html


     No. 4 Penn State Tops Northwestern, 3-0
      http://www.collegesports.com/sports/w-volley/stories/100705acj.html 

MISCELLANY

     Three Women Lawyers Better Qualified Than Supreme Court
      http://gopliberty.redstate.org/story/2005/10/8/222634/085 

ALUMNI

     Joe Girardi - Interviewing for Devil Rays Post
      http://www.dailysouthtown.com/southtown/dssports/pro/091sd6.htm 
     Mark Loretta - Padres reach the end of the road
 
http://sandiego.padres.mlb.com/NASApp/mlb/news/article.jsp?ymd=20051009&content_
id=1243620&vkey=news_sd&fext=.jsp&c_id=sd 
     + Padres swept by Cards in Game 3
 
http://sandiego.padres.mlb.com/NASApp/mlb/news/gameday_recap.jsp?ymd=20051008&co
ntent_id=1243151&vkey=recap&fext=.jsp&c_id=sd 
     + Short 'n' sweep
      http://www.signonsandiego.com/sports/padres/20051009-9999-1bb9padres.html 
     + A longer ride just wasn't in the Cards
 
http://www.signonsandiego.com/sports/sullivan/20051009-9999-1bb9sullivan.html 

     PGA: [Links on Player's Name is their live scorecard]
     Luke Donald 
      http://www.worldgolfchampionships.com/players/scorecard/291587/r473/2005 
     -at the World Golf Championships- American Express Championship.
      http://www.worldgolfchampionships.com/tournaments/r473 
     finished Tied for 11th at -2

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From spiritu at northwestern.edu  Mon Oct 10 10:57:24 2005
From: spiritu at northwestern.edu (Jonathan Michael Hawkins)
Date: Mon Oct 10 10:58:38 2005
Subject: [NU Sports] polling
Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.62.0510101049020.19272@localhost>

We got 3 votes in the AP, 13 votes in the Coaches'.

My favorite thing, from a personal amusement standpoing: Michigan and NU 
got the same number of votes in the AP, but NU got 13 to Michigan's 10 in 
the Coaches' (tying Iowa).  Second favorite - our only Big Ten loss is to 
the highest-ranked team in the Big Ten.

On the flip side, ASU has dropped to 27 in both the AP and the Coaches' 
poll.  At least they're still on the radar.

A convincing win against Tiller and his Broiler Chickens could be good for 
our polling hopes, especially if PSU beats the Wolverines.

A question for the list: if PSU beats the Wolverines, does that make them 
more or less difficult to beat come Homecoming?  I'm thinking from a 
"demoralized and depressed" versus "scrappy and fighting their hardest" 
standpoint.

Go 'Cats,

Jonathan

From NEONRye at aol.com  Mon Oct 10 11:32:13 2005
From: NEONRye at aol.com (NEONRye@aol.com)
Date: Mon Oct 10 11:33:42 2005
Subject: [NU Sports] polling
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We also received 11 votes in the Harris Interactive Poll, in  which Iowa got 
42 votes and Mich. got 22 votes.  We were just behind  Virginia (with 18 
votes) and ahead of Maryland (10).  There's little doubt  that had McGarrigle had 
about 3-6 more inches to tipp the pass away on 4th &  15 against Joe Pa, we'd 
be in the Top 25.  So we can be happy where we are,  while realizing how close 
our team came to getting off to a phenomenal  start.   If we can bust the 
Boilers, this season could become very  sweet indeed.  This week's game may be the 
fulcrum on which our bowl hopes  rest, as a 4-2 start will put us in really 
fine shape to achieve a winning  record, given the schedule that lies ahead.
 
Paul Levinson
From spiritu at northwestern.edu  Mon Oct 10 12:04:18 2005
From: spiritu at northwestern.edu (Jonathan Michael Hawkins)
Date: Mon Oct 10 12:07:14 2005
Subject: [NU Sports] polling
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College Football News has us ranked #25:

<http://www.collegefootballnews.com/2005/Rankings/CFN_Rankings.htm>
http://www.collegefootballnews.com/2005/Rankings/CFN_Rankings.htm

The sked does look brutal from here until Illinois, but I think Purdue and 
Iowa are eminently winnable, and perhaps with some magic under the 
lights...

On Mon, 10 Oct 2005 NEONRye@aol.com wrote:

> We also received 11 votes in the Harris Interactive Poll, in  which Iowa got
> 42 votes and Mich. got 22 votes.  We were just behind  Virginia (with 18
> votes) and ahead of Maryland (10).  There's little doubt  that had McGarrigle had
> about 3-6 more inches to tipp the pass away on 4th &  15 against Joe Pa, we'd
> be in the Top 25.  So we can be happy where we are,  while realizing how close
> our team came to getting off to a phenomenal  start.   If we can bust the
> Boilers, this season could become very  sweet indeed.  This week's game may be the
> fulcrum on which our bowl hopes  rest, as a 4-2 start will put us in really
> fine shape to achieve a winning  record, given the schedule that lies ahead.
>
> Paul Levinson
>

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From neil.kaplan at carsdirect.com  Mon Oct 10 12:23:27 2005
From: neil.kaplan at carsdirect.com (Kaplan, Neil)
Date: Mon Oct 10 12:24:14 2005
Subject: [NU Sports] polling
Message-ID: <5D23CF7CDF3DA74DA2DB587F621B5FAB0A2AD20F@cdlaex02.carsdirect.win>

http://www.collegefootballnews.com/2005/Columnists/MZ/MondayMorningQuarterba
ck.htm

this analysis is pretty insightful..



-----Original Message-----
From: Jonathan Michael Hawkins [mailto:spiritu@northwestern.edu]
Sent: Monday, October 10, 2005 10:04 AM
To: NEONRye@aol.com
Cc: nwu-sports@romaine.tssi.com
Subject: Re: [NU Sports] polling


College Football News has us ranked #25:

<http://www.collegefootballnews.com/2005/Rankings/CFN_Rankings.htm>
http://www.collegefootballnews.com/2005/Rankings/CFN_Rankings.htm

The sked does look brutal from here until Illinois, but I think Purdue and 
Iowa are eminently winnable, and perhaps with some magic under the 
lights...

On Mon, 10 Oct 2005 NEONRye@aol.com wrote:

> We also received 11 votes in the Harris Interactive Poll, in  which Iowa
got
> 42 votes and Mich. got 22 votes.  We were just behind  Virginia (with 18
> votes) and ahead of Maryland (10).  There's little doubt  that had
McGarrigle had
> about 3-6 more inches to tipp the pass away on 4th &  15 against Joe Pa,
we'd
> be in the Top 25.  So we can be happy where we are,  while realizing how
close
> our team came to getting off to a phenomenal  start.   If we can bust the
> Boilers, this season could become very  sweet indeed.  This week's game
may be the
> fulcrum on which our bowl hopes  rest, as a 4-2 start will put us in
really
> fine shape to achieve a winning  record, given the schedule that lies
ahead.
>
> Paul Levinson
>

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From rstetson at capps-assoc.com  Mon Oct 10 09:58:19 2005
From: rstetson at capps-assoc.com (Roy Lamberton)
Date: Mon Oct 10 12:47:27 2005
Subject: [NU Sports] NU Sports News Digest 10/10
Message-ID: <004f01c5cdab$0eb21260$6500a8c0@DAVIDXP>

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Some Weekend with a big win at home, and a lot of change in the Big 10
standings.

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FOOTBALL

     Honors for the Seniors!
     Brett Basanez, Tim McGarigle Pick Up Big Ten Player of the Week Honors
      http://www.fansonly.com/schools/nw/sports/m-footbl/spec-rel/101005aad.html

     + NU's Basanez and McGarigle, PSU's Posluszny and Minnesota's Giannini Pick
Up Weekly Big Ten Accolades
      http://bigten.collegesports.com/sports/m-footbl/spec-rel/101005aaa.html 

     Safety's late-game interception eases some bad memories
 
http://www.dailynorthwestern.com/vnews/display.v/ART/2005/10/10/434a0cb006ec5 
     + Basanez, Sutton steal NU's show
 
http://www.dailynorthwestern.com/vnews/display.v/ART/2005/10/10/434a0c61dc253 
     + The Great Midwestern Shootout
 
http://www.dailynorthwestern.com/vnews/display.v/ART/2005/10/10/434a0d2f85960 
     + GoUPurple: hammering Wisconsin for 674 yards
      http://hailtopurple.com/cats5j09a.html 
     + Hodges: NU beats #14 Wisconsin!!
      http://jhodges.org/archives/2005/10/09/63/ 

     Tim McGarigle Named Walter Camp National Defensive Player of the Week
      http://nusports.collegesports.com/sports/m-footbl/spec-rel/100905aac.html 

     Tyrell Sutton Tops the Big 10 Rushing List
      http://scout.scout.com/a.z?s=179&p=9&c=2&cid=450193&nid=1864509&fhn=1 
     + Sitting Atop the Big 10 Rushing Averages
      http://northwestern.scout.com/2/450199.html 
     + USATODAY.com college football player of the week  [vote here]
 
http://www.usatoday.com/sports/college/football/2005-10-10-player-of-week_x.htm?
csp=34 

     Alvarez finishes NU series losing 3 of 4
 
http://www.dailynorthwestern.com/vnews/display.v/ART/2005/10/10/434a0e02914d1 
     Wildcats gear up for road test
      http://www.dailyherald.com/sports/northwestern.asp?id=103821 
     Big Ten title in Northwestern's thoughts
      http://www.dailysouthtown.com/southtown/dssports/pro/103sd9.htm 
     More Badger whining
     Football: Close before halftime
     Football: Close before halftime

Next Up

     @ Purdue Boilermakers [10/15]
     Boilermakers Fall To The Hawkeyes
 
http://purduesports.collegesports.com/sports/m-footbl/recaps/100805aaa.html
     + Boilers continue losing streak to Iowa 34-17
 
http://www.purdueexponent.org/index.php/module/Issue/action/Article/article_id/1
239
     + Boiler defense features new faces, has better results
 
http://www.purdueexponent.org/index.php/module/Issue/action/Article/article_id/1
240
     + Looking for anything to spark struggling team, Tiller alters schedule
 
http://www.indystar.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20051010/SPORTS0602/510100419
/1004/SPORTS
     + Senior isn't ready to give up hope


     Somebody's on the "race card" move in Lafayette
     Discrimination of subtle, not-so-subtle nature can bedevil student-athletes

     + Purdue sees progress in race relations

     + Black athletes' concerns monitored by Big Ten

     + Behind the uniforms


Future Big 10 Opponents:

     @ Michigan State Spartans [10/22]  Ohio State
     Eric Smith: Defeating Adversity
 
http://msuspartans.collegesports.com/sports/m-footbl/spec-rel/100305aac.html
     + All Eyes On Center
 
http://msuspartans.collegesports.com/sports/m-footbl/spec-rel/100305aab.html

     Michigan Wolverines [10/29 Homecoming] Penn State
     Michigan Again Falls from Top 25
      http://michigan.scout.com/2/449929.html
     + Minnesota Post Game: Coach Carr
      http://michigan.scout.com/2/449823.html
     + U-M at 3-3 ... Has it ever happened before?
      http://michigan.scout.com/2/449690.html
     + Minnesota takes Jug for first time in 19 years
      http://www.michigandaily.com/vnews/display.v/ART/2005/10/10/4349f901174ec
     + No longer a Jug-ernaut
      http://www.michigandaily.com/vnews/display.v/ART/2005/10/10/434a01f83b86b
     + Minnesota takes Jug from Michigan
 
http://www.mlive.com/sportsflash/college/index.ssf?/base/sports-14/1128903243218
801.xml&storylist=bigten
     + Gophers seize jug Second Big Ten loss puts U-M's chances for a title run
in doubt
 
http://www.mlive.com/wolverines/aanews/football/index.ssf?/base/sports-1/1128852
70672031.xml&coll=2
     + U-M: It's one ugly scene in Ann Arbor
      http://www.freep.com/sports/umich/cfbticker10e_20051010.htm
     + DREW SHARP: Coaches are going pass happy
      http://www.freep.com/sports/umich/drew8e_20051008.htm

     Then its:
     Iowa Hawkeyes [11/5]  Play Indiana
     $ Solomon Delivers Key Performance
      http://iowa.scout.com/2/449868.html
     $ Rob Report: Purdue
      http://iowa.scout.com/2/449876.html
     +  Iowa earns first win at Purdue in 14 years
      http://www.dailyiowansports.com/football/purduesungs.htm
     + The bullies are back
      http://www.hawkcentral.com/
     + IOWA BOILS PURDUE
      http://www.hawkcentral.com/
     + Hinkel injury puts a damper on Iowa's win
 
http://www.desmoinesregister.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20051010/SPORTS02050
2/510100319/1003/SPORTS
     + Iowa seizes uplifting victory
 
http://www.desmoinesregister.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20051009/SPORTS02050
2/510090351/1065

     @ Ohio State Buckeyes [11/12]  at MSU
     Buckeyes Try To Put Pieces Back Together
      http://ohiostate.scout.com/2/450086.html
     + Inconsistent Offense Sputters In PSU Loss
      http://ohiostate.scout.com/2/449871.html
     + PD: Buckeyes say on the record they're better than 3-2
 
http://www.cleveland.com/osufootball/plaindealer/index.ssf?/base/sports/11289369
71246751.xml&coll=2
     + PD: Big Ten is a mess, except at the bottom
 
http://www.cleveland.com/osufootball/plaindealer/index.ssf?/base/sports/11289369
32246750.xml&coll=2

     Illinois Fighting Illini [11/19] Bye Week
     Hoeppner's power of persuasion? Officials change call in IU's favor
 
http://www.indystar.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20051010/SPORTS0601/510100437
/1004/SPORTS

Miscellaneous Football News:

     Nittany Lions wrest Big Ten lead from Buckeyes
 
http://www.dailynorthwestern.com/vnews/display.v/ART/2005/10/10/434a0bfdd1f4b

     Upsets Abound In Week Three of Conference Play
 
http://www.fansonly.com/schools/big10/sports/m-footbl/spec-rel/100805aaf.html

Recruiting

     Rumors of another commit abound also...

     Chicago Hales Franciscan Star Jerome Randle Gives A Verbal Commitment To
Play College Basketball For The University of California
      http://www.chicagohoops.com/randlecommits.html

     Jeff Roehl and Fitz in this one...
     Cold-calling college
 
http://www.chicagotribune.com/sports/cs-051008recruitesell,1,466847.story?coll=c
s-highschool-newspapers

GOLF

     No. 15 Wildcats in Fifth Place at Coca-Cola Duke Classic
      http://www.fansonly.com/schools/nw/sports/m-golf/recaps/100905aaa.html

SOCCER

     Women:
     Wildcats Come Up Short at Michigan State, 2-1
      http://www.fansonly.com/schools/nw/sports/w-soccer/recaps/100905aaa.html

TENNIS

     Women
     Day Three of the Wildcat Invitational
      http://www.fansonly.com/schools/nw/sports/w-tennis/recaps/100905aab.html

VOLLEYBALL

     No. 18 Ohio State Escapes Northwestern, 3-2
      http://www.fansonly.com/schools/nw/sports/w-volley/recaps/100805aab.html

ALUMNI

     Luis Castillo San Diego will host its first Monday Night Football
      http://www.chargers.com/news/headline_detail.cfm?news_key=2353
     + Depth Chart
      http://www.chargers.com/team/depth_chart_print.cfm

     PGA: [Links on Player's Name is their live scorecard]
     Luke Donald - Next scheduled for the Volvo Masters Oct 27th
      http://www.europeantour.com/Tournaments/latest.sps?iTourNo=2005076

     The guys on the Nationwide Tour...
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      http://www.pgatour.com/tournaments/h038
     Tom Johnson - Back in action - scheduled to appear

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From MHRJGScott at aol.com  Mon Oct 10 12:56:58 2005
From: MHRJGScott at aol.com (MHRJGScott@aol.com)
Date: Mon Oct 10 13:00:57 2005
Subject: Fwd: [NU Sports] polling
Message-ID: <20.4effa5ae.307c056a@aol.com>


From MHRJGScott at aol.com  Mon Oct 10 13:45:48 2005
From: MHRJGScott at aol.com (MHRJGScott@aol.com)
Date: Mon Oct 10 13:58:33 2005
Subject: [NU Sports] polling
Message-ID: <29.7d643cf4.307c10dc@aol.com>

try again
 
 

I hope we can pull another upset, our offense is going to score, but Barry  
gave our defense a break by trying to run the ball. The announcers said that  
Wisconsin basically says "here we come, try to stop our run."  If they had  
gone with the passing game more I am afraid we would have lost. Go  CATS!!

From tmcadams at yahoo.com  Mon Oct 10 15:41:34 2005
From: tmcadams at yahoo.com (Trey McAdams)
Date: Mon Oct 10 16:08:22 2005
Subject: [NU Sports] So much red, so little purple
In-Reply-To: <7d.72da453b.3079565d@aol.com>
Message-ID: <20051010204134.31439.qmail@web52214.mail.yahoo.com>

Having been there in person, I would have to say I was
expecting to be outnumberd 2-1 by the Wisconsin fans. 
In fact, I think that it was pretty evenly split.

It was great seeing the Badger fans go through the
tunnels and head for the exits after we went up 17. 
People in my section were wishing them "a safe trip
home".  Luckily, the Wisconsin fans did not return
when Wisconsin cut it to 3.

--- MHRJGScott@aol.com wrote:

> My first CATS! game on my big plasma HDTV and all I
> see are the empty  seats 
> and the Whisky fans. Why doesn't the student body
> and the third largest  city 
> population jam Dyche for the closest thing we have
> to a rivalry.
> Stop the run and we can win this game. 
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From tkmaycock at yahoo.com  Mon Oct 10 16:21:20 2005
From: tkmaycock at yahoo.com (Tom Maycock)
Date: Mon Oct 10 16:29:06 2005
Subject: [NU Sports] So much red, so little purple
In-Reply-To: <20051010204134.31439.qmail@web52214.mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <20051010212120.5379.qmail@web33109.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

> It was great seeing the Badger fans go through the
> tunnels and head for the exits after we went up 17. 

I was yelling "Have you seen our defense?". 

Regarding attendance, all I can say is that the single-game ticket
price was $50. That's a LOT of cash for a college football game. I have
to believe there are folks out there who would pay $20 for a ticket,
but for $50, they'll stay home and watch it on TV, or just do something
else.

Tom

From Willie.Weinbaum at espn.com  Mon Oct 10 16:34:49 2005
From: Willie.Weinbaum at espn.com (Weinbaum, Willie)
Date: Mon Oct 10 17:19:44 2005
Subject: [NU Sports] ABC News Nightline tonight - Wheeler/Will
Message-ID: <200510102219.j9AMJhbl017001@gw.tssi.com>

Feature scheduled on Rashidi Wheeler tragedy and Linda Will's ongoing legal battles.  Show airs at approximately 12:30am Eastern time, 30 minutes after Monday Night Football (different times elsewhere).

Sent from my GoodLink synchronized handheld (www.good.com)
From thiegs at umn.edu  Mon Oct 10 16:56:32 2005
From: thiegs at umn.edu (Joe Thiegs)
Date: Mon Oct 10 17:38:29 2005
Subject: [NU Sports] So much red, so little purple
In-Reply-To: <20051010212120.5379.qmail@web33109.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <003e01c5cde5$79ff5a70$fb326580@jthiegs2003>

Yes.  That's too much.  I paid it ($150 for three tickets), but I have an
atypically high interest in the 'Cats, as do many or most of the people on
this list.  At that price, I was hemming and hawing about getting the season
ticket family pack, even though this was my only Evanston trip this year!
Maybe that's the objective of the ticket office (the season tickets are a
tremendous value), and I do understand that if it is going to be, say,
Badger fans buying the tickets we want to maximize revenue, but it sure is a
raw deal for casual fans and die-hards for whom season tickets won't make
sense under any circumstances.  I can't say we didn't get our money's worth
on Saturday.  However, for those of us with young families and who are
trying to stick to a budget it makes things a bit tougher.  Maybe the ticket
office could implement a single-game discount program for NUAA and NGN
members or something for repeat ticket-buyers.  Just a thought.  -Joe

-----Original Message-----
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Behalf Of Tom Maycock
Sent: Monday, October 10, 2005 4:21 PM
To: nwu-sports@tssi.com
Subject: Re: [NU Sports] So much red, so little purple


> It was great seeing the Badger fans go through the
> tunnels and head for the exits after we went up 17.

I was yelling "Have you seen our defense?". 

Regarding attendance, all I can say is that the single-game ticket price was
$50. That's a LOT of cash for a college football game. I have to believe
there are folks out there who would pay $20 for a ticket, but for $50,
they'll stay home and watch it on TV, or just do something else.

Tom

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From jleonard518 at yahoo.com  Mon Oct 10 17:42:47 2005
From: jleonard518 at yahoo.com (Jim Leonard)
Date: Mon Oct 10 17:43:53 2005
Subject: [NU Sports] 6-5 plus 1
In-Reply-To: <20051010204134.31439.qmail@web52214.mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <20051010224247.87746.qmail@web30309.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

Fellow Wildcat Faithful,

Second only to a win over Ohio State is a win over Wisconsin. Saturday's game
was a thrill. Has it been deemed an "Instant Classic" yet? 

I have been vocal before about NU needing a coaching change, but I think
Saturday's win may have saved Randy Walker's job. Honestly, after what I saw
Saturday, I'll give him another year just for recruiting Tyrell Sutton. 

As someone else on the list pointed out, 6 wins and bowl game victory
(preferrably the Music City Bowl) would be an amazing accomplishment for this
team and coaching staff. If Walker can acheive that, I'd be happy to see him on
the sidelines next year. 

I feel good aout our chances against Purdue this weekend. I'm guessing the
under/over in Vegas will be about 104. I also like our chances over Michigan,
Iowa and Illinois. 

One thing is certain, the spread offense is fun to watch. 

Victory & Honor,
Jim


		
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From nolan at romaine.tssi.com  Mon Oct 10 17:59:20 2005
From: nolan at romaine.tssi.com (Mike Nolan)
Date: Mon Oct 10 17:59:23 2005
Subject: [NU Sports] 6-5 plus 1 (fwd)
Message-ID: <200510102259.j9AMxKEM021790@romaine.tssi.com>

> Second only to a win over Ohio State is a win over Wisconsin. Saturday's game
> was a thrill. Has it been deemed an "Instant Classic" yet? 

I just paged through the ESPN Classic listings for the next several days,
there doesn't appear to be an 'Instant Classic' game out there though there
are several USC/N*D* games being replayed this week.

My cable company doesn't carry ESPNU, and that seems to be where ESPN is
placing their emphasis on college replays this season.  :-(

> As someone else on the list pointed out, 6 wins and bowl game victory
> (preferrably the Music City Bowl) would be an amazing accomplishment for this
> team and coaching staff. If Walker can acheive that, I'd be happy to see 
> him on the sidelines next year. 

Why is the Music City Bowl preferable (or to what is it preferable)?
 
> I feel good aout our chances against Purdue this weekend. I'm guessing the
> under/over in Vegas will be about 104. 

Is that ALL?  :-)

> I also like our chances over Michigan,

Michigan is an enigma this year.  What are are chances against Michigan State?
--
Mike Nolan

From spiritu at northwestern.edu  Mon Oct 10 18:08:48 2005
From: spiritu at northwestern.edu (Jonathan Michael Hawkins)
Date: Mon Oct 10 18:12:11 2005
Subject: [NU Sports] ABC News Nightline tonight - Wheeler/Will
In-Reply-To: <200510102219.j9AMJhbl017001@gw.tssi.com>
References: <200510102219.j9AMJhbl017001@gw.tssi.com>
Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.62.0510101802130.20755@localhost>

Wow.  ABC News sinks to a new low.  NU beats Wisconsin on national 
television and Nightline host and Wisconsin alum Chris Bury decides to 
bring up the Rashidi Wheeler tragedy.

On Mon, 10 Oct 2005, Weinbaum, Willie wrote:

> Feature scheduled on Rashidi Wheeler tragedy and Linda Will's ongoing legal battles.  Show airs at approximately 12:30am Eastern time, 30 minutes after Monday Night Football (different times elsewhere).
>
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From jonathanwhodges at gmail.com  Mon Oct 10 15:00:15 2005
From: jonathanwhodges at gmail.com (Jonathan Hodges)
Date: Mon Oct 10 19:22:34 2005
Subject: [NU Sports] polling
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.62.0510101049020.19272@localhost>
References: <Pine.LNX.4.62.0510101049020.19272@localhost>
Message-ID: <fcb3ee270510101300s3583d995weaa3f112da19d8a@mail.gmail.com>

Even after facing PSU at home, Michigan must face Iowa on the road, a
team that does not look as bad as their early season losses (after
pummeling both Illinois and Purdue).  Also, Iowa is notorious for
coming off of early season losses and winning out the season, which is
very possible considering the talent level they were supposed to have
this year.  Could Michigan come in on Oct. 29 with 3 consecutive
losses?  It's quite possible.

Michigan does have top level talent but this doesn't seem to be a year
they put it all together, and have been taking some hits.  Despite my
hatred for them, they will probably pull it together enough to grab 6
wins and continue their currently longest active bowl game streak. 
Hopefully we can be one of the teams that grabs a W from them, though.
 This year it looks like virtually any team can win any week (except
for Illinois).

Jonathan

On 10/10/05, Jonathan Michael Hawkins <spiritu@northwestern.edu> wrote:
> We got 3 votes in the AP, 13 votes in the Coaches'.
>
> My favorite thing, from a personal amusement standpoing: Michigan and NU
> got the same number of votes in the AP, but NU got 13 to Michigan's 10 in
> the Coaches' (tying Iowa).  Second favorite - our only Big Ten loss is to
> the highest-ranked team in the Big Ten.
>
> On the flip side, ASU has dropped to 27 in both the AP and the Coaches'
> poll.  At least they're still on the radar.
>
> A convincing win against Tiller and his Broiler Chickens could be good for
> our polling hopes, especially if PSU beats the Wolverines.
>
> A question for the list: if PSU beats the Wolverines, does that make them
> more or less difficult to beat come Homecoming?  I'm thinking from a
> "demoralized and depressed" versus "scrappy and fighting their hardest"
> standpoint.
>
> Go 'Cats,
>
> Jonathan
>
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From pcw at warnerpatents.com  Tue Oct 11 00:29:17 2005
From: pcw at warnerpatents.com (Peter Warner)
Date: Tue Oct 11 04:30:37 2005
Subject: [NU Sports] 3 NU players made Sports Illustrated's top-10 NCAA
	players of the week.
Message-ID: <200510110930.j9B9USbl027144@gw.tssi.com>

See:

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/multimedia/photo_gallery/2005/10/10/gallery
.performers/content.1.html?cnn=yes


From jleonard518 at yahoo.com  Mon Oct 10 21:43:33 2005
From: jleonard518 at yahoo.com (Jim Leonard)
Date: Tue Oct 11 04:51:21 2005
Subject: [NU Sports] 6-5 plus 1 (fwd)
In-Reply-To: <200510102259.j9AMxKEM021790@romaine.tssi.com>
Message-ID: <20051011024333.46938.qmail@web30309.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

I should have clarified. I live in Nashville, less than 2 miles from the
stadium. The Music City Bowl is a personal preference. 

Jim
 
> > As someone else on the list pointed out, 6 wins and bowl game victory
> > (preferrably the Music City Bowl) would be an amazing accomplishment for
> this
> > team and coaching staff. If Walker can acheive that, I'd be happy to see 
> > him on the sidelines next year. 
> 
> Why is the Music City Bowl preferable (or to what is it preferable)?
>  



		
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From MHRJGScott at aol.com  Tue Oct 11 05:20:42 2005
From: MHRJGScott at aol.com (MHRJGScott@aol.com)
Date: Tue Oct 11 05:24:34 2005
Subject: [NU Sports] NU for Sale
Message-ID: <e6.7393c816.307cebfa@aol.com>

 
I got another email solicitation for the championship flag, I agree it  seems 
like we are selling a trophy, it is supposed to benefit the athletic  
scholarship fund, but CSTV and ebay are doing the auction, I wonder what their  cut 
is. Last bid was $2900.
 
 
 
In a message dated 10/7/2005 10:48:41 AM US Eastern Standard Time,  
jleonard518@yahoo.com writes:

assume  many of you get the same emails from Northwestern Athletics that I  
do.
Yesterday I got an email indicating that the 1995 Big Ten Champions  flag is 
up
for auction. I believe the minimum bid is $750. 

I'm not  sure what the logic is behind this decision, but something about it
doesn't  feel right. This is the kind of item I'd like to see proudly 
displayed
at  Dyche Stadium forever. Are we really in such a dire financial need?  

Victory & Honor,
Jim




From sjtruog at yahoo.com  Mon Oct 10 23:31:45 2005
From: sjtruog at yahoo.com (SjT (Stephen J. Truog))
Date: Tue Oct 11 06:39:38 2005
Subject: [NU Sports] 6-5 plus 1
In-Reply-To: <20051010224247.87746.qmail@web30309.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <20051011043146.3708.qmail@web52907.mail.yahoo.com>

Wow - it's amazing what 51 points will do for a mood
around this list.:) Suddenly the talk has gone from
2-9 and a coaching change to a bowl bid and Heisman
talk.

As our not-so-friend on TV says ... not so fast,
friends. It's nice to see the purple pride back -- and
a win over Wisconsin certainly feels great -- but I'm
not sure we should get ahead of ourselves yet.

Far more encouraging than the 51 points, IMO, have
been Penn State's two wins over two pretty darn good
teams the last two weeks. That loss still stings given
we'd be 4-1 and alone atop the league ... but at least
it feels a little more respectable than it did when I
left Dyche two weeks ago feeling that we had blown a
game against a mediocre and turnover-prone team.

That said, let's not kid ourselves about the road
ahead. Purdue is a cornered animal at 0-2 in the
league. OSU and Michigan have already lost more games
than folks around there accept in a 2-year span. And
as mentioned, Iowa seems to always be a far better
team in November than in September with Ferentz
coaching. Not to mention that MSU may be one of the
few teams in the league capable of matching us blow
for blow on scoring.

Is it an impossible task? No - we certainly can beat
anybody left on the slate if Baz and Tyrell are on
their games. And maybe if we can put on some shamrock
or something, Lloyd Carr and Joe Tiller will do their
usual Notre Dame clamp-up job and try to run the ball
even when they should be throwing. But this is still a
formidable schedule remaining. Even Illinois isn't as
bad as they were last year.

It's gonna be a real fun October in this league
because it really is wide open and everyone but
Illinois can legitimately talk about bowl bids if they
get a break or two.

So I love to see the purple-colored glasses back in
fashion :) ... but I think I'll keep my eyes closed
until Saturday and look through 'em hopefully after
our win in West Lafayette.

GO CATS!!!
-SjT

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From DPENDERG at aol.com  Tue Oct 11 08:00:25 2005
From: DPENDERG at aol.com (DPENDERG@aol.com)
Date: Tue Oct 11 08:02:03 2005
Subject: [NU Sports] 6-5 plus 1
Message-ID: <7d.730cd557.307d1169@aol.com>

 
I think in the euphoria of the great Wisconsin victory, we should take a  
breath and not make any bowl travel plans yet.  We have the second worst  defense 
in D-IA football and we must improve there or we will be staying  home for 
the holidays. Period.  We cannot expect -- especially in the Big  Ten -- that 
the offense will put up 51 points and 600+ yards every game. The  Purdue game 
will be defining.  If we win on the road (and Cats have not  traveled well, 
historically) at West Lafayette, especially with some improved  defense, then we 
can start dreaming, I think.  Until then, let's just stay  calm and hope Walker 
focuses this week on the defense as much as the offense. 
 
In a message dated 10/10/2005 6:44:41 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,  
jleonard518@yahoo.com writes:

Fellow  Wildcat Faithful,

Second only to a win over Ohio State is a win over  Wisconsin. Saturday's game
was a thrill. Has it been deemed an "Instant  Classic" yet? 

I have been vocal before about NU needing a coaching  change, but I think
Saturday's win may have saved Randy Walker's job.  Honestly, after what I saw
Saturday, I'll give him another year just for  recruiting Tyrell Sutton. 

As someone else on the list pointed out, 6  wins and bowl game victory
(preferrably the Music City Bowl) would be an  amazing accomplishment for this
team and coaching staff. If Walker can  acheive that, I'd be happy to see him 
on
the sidelines next year. 

I  feel good aout our chances against Purdue this weekend. I'm guessing  the
under/over in Vegas will be about 104. I also like our chances over  Michigan,
Iowa and Illinois. 

One thing is certain, the spread  offense is fun to watch. 

Victory & Honor,
Jim



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From thehaze at earthlink.net  Tue Oct 11 08:03:51 2005
From: thehaze at earthlink.net (Jim Bendat)
Date: Tue Oct 11 08:07:42 2005
Subject: [NU Sports] 6-5 plus 1 (fwd)
References: <20051011024333.46938.qmail@web30309.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <434BB837.4090501@earthlink.net>

If we go to the Music City Bowl, I hereby nominate Jim Leonard to host a 
pre-game party!

Jim Leonard wrote:

>I should have clarified. I live in Nashville, less than 2 miles from the
>stadium. The Music City Bowl is a personal preference. 
>
>Jim
> 
>



From cherron604 at aol.com  Tue Oct 11 13:39:20 2005
From: cherron604 at aol.com (cherron604@aol.com)
Date: Tue Oct 11 14:01:04 2005
Subject: [NU Sports] Walker's greatest win?
In-Reply-To: <200510082008.j98K8FAk012413@romaine.tssi.com>
References: <200510082008.j98K8FAk012413@romaine.tssi.com>
Message-ID: <8C79CAA3A720357-304-1126C@FWM-R35.sysops.aol.com>

Three points:
 
1 -  can any game in which you yield 500+ yards and 48 points on defense be considered great ? (even if you rack up 650+ yards and 51 points on offense).
 
2 - After a feeble coaching effort like that, Barry Alvarez should be forcibly retired.
 
3 - Can a game be considered 'great' (or even 'well-coached') if a 17 point lead with just over 4 minutes remaining nearly evaporates ?
 
There is a mind-set starting to settle in to Evanston (it has already infected the athletic office) that equates wide-open scoring (on both sides) with great football.  I think the empty seats in the end zone (and the red seats on both sides) indicate that true Football fans can recognize the difference between quality football and two bad teams playing football.
 
All of that being said, however, the blown game against Penn State (also a Walker masterpiece ?) stings terribly now.  With it, and the upcoming Illinois game, the Cats would only have to find 1 win between Purdue, Michigan State, Michigan, Iowa and Ohio State to get to a bowl.  Now it will require two 'found victories' - tougher, but based on some of the Big Ten defenses out there, possible.
 
Chuck Herron, Tech '85
 
-----Original Message-----
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To: nwu-sports@romaine.tssi.com
Sent: Sat, 8 Oct 2005 15:08:15 -0500 (CDT)
Subject: [NU Sports] Walker's greatest win?


This one has to rank up there with the Michigan game and last year's
win against the Buckeyes.  That loss to Penn State stings even more now.

What a nice retirement present we gave Barry.  :-)
--
Mike Nolan

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From spiritu at northwestern.edu  Tue Oct 11 14:29:51 2005
From: spiritu at northwestern.edu (Jonathan Michael Hawkins)
Date: Tue Oct 11 14:33:08 2005
Subject: [NU Sports] Walker's greatest win?
In-Reply-To: <8C79CAA3A720357-304-1126C@FWM-R35.sysops.aol.com>
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> 1 - can any game in which you yield 500+ yards and 48 points on defense 
> be considered great ? (even if you rack up 650+ yards and 51 points on 
> offense).

http://www.usatoday.com/sports/scores100/100309/100309402.htm
<http://www.usatoday.com/sports/scores100/100309/100309402.htm>

I'll give you this.  It's not an accurate comparison because there were 
some different things about that game.  In that game, we yielded *51* 
points on defense, and *54* points on offense.  And it was Michigan, not 
Wisconsin.  But the 500+ for the D and 650+ for the O were about the same.

Yes, I considered that to be a great game.  So much so that me and my 
buddy decided that since we were sitting next to each other at graduation 
(I was on the left), we would put a sculpted N and a 54 on my mortarboard, 
and an upside-down M and a 51 on his.  Jason Wright saw it from the stands 
and thanked us for it later on that summer.

It was the greatest football game of our student careers, and I saw many. 
This one ranks up there with it.

> 3 - Can a game be considered 'great' (or even 'well-coached') if a 17 
> point lead with just over 4 minutes remaining nearly evaporates ?

I dunno.  We had lost the 2000 Michigan game, and the A-Train had rumbled 
into our secondary, on his way for the game-sealing TD, but then he 
decided to hand the ball off to an NU defender.  Similar thing for the 
Wisconsin win in 1996.  Also in 2000.  And there's something I remember 
about a certain day in Minnesota.  It was their homecoming, actually. 
Victory-something. ;-)

The Cardiac 'Cats ride again.  We won, didn't we?  Let's be happy for a 
week. :)

Go 'Cats,

Jonathan

p.s.  Yes, I would've rather the 1995 version of beating Wisconsin, but 
I'll take this one.

From cherron604 at aol.com  Tue Oct 11 14:45:37 2005
From: cherron604 at aol.com (cherron604@aol.com)
Date: Tue Oct 11 15:26:37 2005
Subject: [NU Sports] If you worked for IBM
In-Reply-To: <004b01c5cc72$fa984b70$6500a8c0@DAVIDXP>
References: <004b01c5cc72$fa984b70$6500a8c0@DAVIDXP>
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 If you worked for IBM, and you had consistently (7 years) been ranked near the bottom nationally, and were currently ranked 116th out of 117th nationally, I hope (as a shareholder) that they would not excuse that kind of bottom quartile performance.
 
Chuck Herron   Tech '85
 
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Sent: Sat, 8 Oct 2005 21:44:24 -0400
Subject: [NU Sports] If you worked for IBM


And 2 of your top sales guys quit before the quarter started...

Would you get fired because you lost a couple of close deals?

Then why does everyone want to can Colby because we're in a flux over the
defense.

We're playing 2 frosh because there is nobody else. Highlights of play today
included Mark Koehn making a few plays on the edge, where he'd been lost a year
ago, Decent pressure with a 4 man rush against 5 really good O Linemen.

2 CBs who have not had a lot of starting time, actually 3 CBs without a lot of
start time. Oh yeah, a frosh safety too.

As a guy who just took over a the DC of our youth team, I'm getting tired of the
picking at our NU coaches. With my 12 year olds, I've got kids with more time in
their positions than some of NU's. We can fire everyone but then we have to fire
Fitz 'cause the LBs missed their share of plays today too.

rsl

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From cherron604 at aol.com  Tue Oct 11 14:37:43 2005
From: cherron604 at aol.com (cherron604@aol.com)
Date: Tue Oct 11 15:34:10 2005
Subject: [NU Sports] Epic Game
In-Reply-To: <200510090031.j990VJbl024365@gw.tssi.com>
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 Was this game truly 'Epic' ?
 
The definitions seem to cluster around:
 
- very imposing or impressive
- surpassing the ordinary (especially in size or scale)
- constituting or having to do with or suggestive of a literary epic
 
I would probably not consider it imposing (distinguished ?), but it was impressive that a 6.5-7 point underdog was able to win.
 
It definitely surpassed the ordinary game in duration (and yards).
 
The question is, given that we all want wins - do we want Epic games, or brilliantly played games ?
 
For games against Barry Alvarez, the yardstick is always going to be October 21, 1995, When an excellent Badger team was shutout 35-0 at Dyche.
 
Chuck Herron   Tech '85 
 
-----Original Message-----
From: warneradams <warneradams@comcast.net>
To: nwu-sports@romaine.tssi.com
Sent: Sat, 8 Oct 2005 19:30:33 -0500
Subject: [NU Sports] Epic Game


Some other thoughts:

 

Outstanding football weather today and 80% NU fans in my section (10 yard
line, south end of west stands).  Northern Illinois seemed to fill the place
more than Wisconsin fans did.  Certainly there was a sea of red but the
purple filled up their block of the east stands too.  How do so many
Wisconsin fans get great tailgating spots in the east and west parking lots?
I thought those spots were reserved for NU season ticket holders who give
extra $$$.

 

Sutton was a big story but so were the special teams.  The missed xp was bad
but our return game is so much better than in previous years. 

Barry Alvarez ends his career 3-5 at Ryan Field.  Since my sophomore year
(1985) when the Cats broke a 13 game losing streak with a win at Camp
Randall, NU is 10-9 against the Badgers.

I thought we missed a great opportunity at the end of the first half when
Baz didn't throw into the end zone on 3rd and goal.  What happened there?  

The fan with the white Wisconsin Calhoun jersey in front of us enjoyed
standing up and saluting every first down to the NU fans around him.
Usually shouting the word "Houn" when he did it.  His final message to us
was the middle finger as he bolted for the tunnel with the score 51-34.  His
girl friend must be proud.

My seven month old daughter is now 3-0 after staying with a baby sitter for
the PSU game.  We'll be heading to Purdue next weekend to make it four in a
row.

 

I like to watch the game again when I get home so it was more than a little
upsetting to find out my TIVO recorded Va Tech-Marshall instead.  What are
the chances I can pay someone to make a tape of the game for me?  This one
needs to go into the vault.

 

David Warner

Evanston

 

 

 

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From hakirsch at aol.com  Tue Oct 11 15:46:42 2005
From: hakirsch at aol.com (hakirsch@aol.com)
Date: Tue Oct 11 16:06:27 2005
Subject: Fwd: [NU Sports] Epic Game
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-----Original Message-----
From: Hakirsch
To: CHerron604
Sent: Tue, 11 Oct 2005 16:46:06 -0400
Subject: Re: [NU Sports] Epic Game


Let me also comment--the game was not epic, very exciting yes, a big win, absolutely, and I would take 7 of them the rest of the season.  However just as a12-11 baseball game can be exciting and thrilling, particularly to the casual fan, the true fan understands that a 1-0  7th game  will almost always be more "epic".  (Having said that I think one of the worst overall game i had ever witnessed by NU football was the 0-0 tie to Illinois in 1978--I think there were at least 4 turnovers by the driving team inside the other's 20 yard line that game)
 
 
Harry Kirsch
-----Original Message-----
From: cherron604@aol.com
To: nwu-sports@tssi.com
Sent: Tue, 11 Oct 2005 15:37:43 -0400
Subject: Re: [NU Sports] Epic Game


 Was this game truly 'Epic' ?
 
The definitions seem to cluster around:
 
- very imposing or impressive
- surpassing the ordinary (especially in size or scale)
- constituting or having to do with or suggestive of a literary epic
 
I would probably not consider it imposing (distinguished ?), but it was 
impressive that a 6.5-7 point underdog was able to win.
 
It definitely surpassed the ordinary game in duration (and yards).
 
The question is, given that we all want wins - do we want Epic games, or 
brilliantly played games ?
 
For games against Barry Alvarez, the yardstick is always going to be October 21, 
1995, When an excellent Badger team was shutout 35-0 at Dyche.
 
Chuck Herron   Tech '85 
 
-----Original Message-----
From: warneradams <warneradams@comcast.net>
To: nwu-sports@romaine.tssi.com
Sent: Sat, 8 Oct 2005 19:30:33 -0500
Subject: [NU Sports] Epic Game


Some other thoughts:

 

Outstanding football weather today and 80% NU fans in my section (10 yard
line, south end of west stands).  Northern Illinois seemed to fill the place
more than Wisconsin fans did.  Certainly there was a sea of red but the
purple filled up their block of the east stands too.  How do so many
Wisconsin fans get great tailgating spots in the east and west parking lots?
I thought those spots were reserved for NU season ticket holders who give
extra $$$.

 

Sutton was a big story but so were the special teams.  The missed xp was bad
but our return game is so much better than in previous years. 

Barry Alvarez ends his career 3-5 at Ryan Field.  Since my sophomore year
(1985) when the Cats broke a 13 game losing streak with a win at Camp
Randall, NU is 10-9 against the Badgers.

I thought we missed a great opportunity at the end of the first half when
Baz didn't throw into the end zone on 3rd and goal.  What happened there?  

The fan with the white Wisconsin Calhoun jersey in front of us enjoyed
standing up and saluting every first down to the NU fans around him.
Usually shouting the word "Houn" when he did it.  His final message to us
was the middle finger as he bolted for the tunnel with the score 51-34.  His
girl friend must be proud.

My seven month old daughter is now 3-0 after staying with a baby sitter for
the PSU game.  We'll be heading to Purdue next weekend to make it four in a
row.

 

I like to watch the game again when I get home so it was more than a little
upsetting to find out my TIVO recorded Va Tech-Marshall instead.  What are
the chances I can pay someone to make a tape of the game for me?  This one
needs to go into the vault.

 

David Warner

Evanston

 

 

 

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From thiegs at umn.edu  Tue Oct 11 16:15:30 2005
From: thiegs at umn.edu (Joe Thiegs)
Date: Tue Oct 11 16:38:13 2005
Subject: [NU Sports] Epic Game
In-Reply-To: <8C79CB262029B2F-304-11A96@FWM-R35.sysops.aol.com>
Message-ID: <001501c5cea8$e96539c0$fb326580@jthiegs2003>

"For games against Barry Alvarez, the yardstick is always going to be
October 21, 1995, When an excellent Badger team was shutout 35-0 at Dyche."

That is a pretty good benchmark for games against ANYONE.  That game remains
for me the most impressive and satisfying one I have ever attended--or have
ever seen, for that matter (I only caught the fourth quarter of the 1995
NU-ND game on WGN radio while I was in Grant Park that September day).  The
Wisconsin game was homecoming my senior year, and our house placed high in
the float-building competition the night before (which effort I headed for
our fraternity), my family was there for their second game (the first being
a blowout loss to Michigan on Parents' Weekend in 1992), and it was my
grandma's first and only time at a D-I football game.  Sadly, my grandpa had
passed away at the end of the previous school year, so it was a big deal for
her to make a trek as far away as Chicago.  I still remember standing
through most of the game (in the rain?) and the crowd pouring onto the field
after time expired.  Also, the next day was my golden birthday, so that made
for one great weekend.  Ah, the memories....

Back to the present, I was happy to attend last weekend's circus.  It was
exciting and a big win but, as others have said, didn't feel as momentous as
last year's OSU win or the Michigan win in 2000.  Could the defense be
better?  Of course.  For the record, I'd take a lock-down defense and a
mediocre offense (see Ohio State in 2002) over a high-powered offense and a
mediocre defense (us in 2000) any day.  I think, though, that I'd rather
have a high-powered offense and a really bad defense (us this year?) than a
lock-down defense and a really bad offense (Penn State last year).  In any
event, I'll take a victory over a 5-0 team without too much complaint,
notwithstanding obvious the obvious room for improvement on defense.

-Joe

-----Original Message-----
From: nwu-sports-bounces@tssi.com [mailto:nwu-sports-bounces@tssi.com] On
Behalf Of cherron604@aol.com
Sent: Tuesday, October 11, 2005 2:38 PM
To: nwu-sports@tssi.com
Subject: Re: [NU Sports] Epic Game


 Was this game truly 'Epic' ?
 
The definitions seem to cluster around:
 
- very imposing or impressive
- surpassing the ordinary (especially in size or scale)
- constituting or having to do with or suggestive of a literary epic
 
I would probably not consider it imposing (distinguished ?), but it was
impressive that a 6.5-7 point underdog was able to win.
 
It definitely surpassed the ordinary game in duration (and yards).
 
The question is, given that we all want wins - do we want Epic games, or
brilliantly played games ?
 
For games against Barry Alvarez, the yardstick is always going to be October
21, 1995, When an excellent Badger team was shutout 35-0 at Dyche.
 
Chuck Herron   Tech '85 
 
-----Original Message-----
From: warneradams <warneradams@comcast.net>
To: nwu-sports@romaine.tssi.com
Sent: Sat, 8 Oct 2005 19:30:33 -0500
Subject: [NU Sports] Epic Game


Some other thoughts:

 

Outstanding football weather today and 80% NU fans in my section (10 yard
line, south end of west stands).  Northern Illinois seemed to fill the place
more than Wisconsin fans did.  Certainly there was a sea of red but the
purple filled up their block of the east stands too.  How do so many
Wisconsin fans get great tailgating spots in the east and west parking lots?
I thought those spots were reserved for NU season ticket holders who give
extra $$$.

 

Sutton was a big story but so were the special teams.  The missed xp was bad
but our return game is so much better than in previous years. 

Barry Alvarez ends his career 3-5 at Ryan Field.  Since my sophomore year
(1985) when the Cats broke a 13 game losing streak with a win at Camp
Randall, NU is 10-9 against the Badgers.

I thought we missed a great opportunity at the end of the first half when
Baz didn't throw into the end zone on 3rd and goal.  What happened there?  

The fan with the white Wisconsin Calhoun jersey in front of us enjoyed
standing up and saluting every first down to the NU fans around him. Usually
shouting the word "Houn" when he did it.  His final message to us was the
middle finger as he bolted for the tunnel with the score 51-34.  His girl
friend must be proud.

My seven month old daughter is now 3-0 after staying with a baby sitter for
the PSU game.  We'll be heading to Purdue next weekend to make it four in a
row.

 

I like to watch the game again when I get home so it was more than a little
upsetting to find out my TIVO recorded Va Tech-Marshall instead.  What are
the chances I can pay someone to make a tape of the game for me?  This one
needs to go into the vault.

 

David Warner

Evanston

 

 

 

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From jeffb at hilgraeve.com  Tue Oct 11 16:48:35 2005
From: jeffb at hilgraeve.com (Jeff Beamsley)
Date: Tue Oct 11 17:13:33 2005
Subject: [NU Sports] Epic Game
In-Reply-To: <8C79CB262029B2F-304-11A96@FWM-R35.sysops.aol.com>
Message-ID: <036e01c5cead$881ad0d0$97492745@hilgraeve.com>

Honestly, all that really matters is whether we won or lost.

Our pass defense still stinks, but the run defense held up better than most
people including Barry thought it would.  Fortunately, Barry kept trying to
run the ball.  Don't you love ego!

Wisky's dirty little secret is that their pass defense stinks too.

What should no longer be a secret to anyone is that NU can run the ball.
Don't know where Walker finds these kids every year, but you have to hand it
to him.  He knows how to recruit running backs.

The bad news coming up is that Purdue has a much better pass offense than
Wisky and won't be so nearly invested in the run as Wisky was.  The good
news is that their pass defense is even worse than ours (is that possible?).

Looks like a "whomever has the ball last" sort of game.  At least we're used
to that.

Jeff




-----Original Message-----
From: nwu-sports-bounces@tssi.com [mailto:nwu-sports-bounces@tssi.com] On
Behalf Of cherron604@aol.com
Sent: Tuesday, October 11, 2005 3:38 PM
To: nwu-sports@tssi.com
Subject: Re: [NU Sports] Epic Game

 Was this game truly 'Epic' ?
 
The definitions seem to cluster around:
 
- very imposing or impressive
- surpassing the ordinary (especially in size or scale)
- constituting or having to do with or suggestive of a literary epic
 
I would probably not consider it imposing (distinguished ?), but it was
impressive that a 6.5-7 point underdog was able to win.
 
It definitely surpassed the ordinary game in duration (and yards).
 
The question is, given that we all want wins - do we want Epic games, or
brilliantly played games ?
 
For games against Barry Alvarez, the yardstick is always going to be October
21, 1995, When an excellent Badger team was shutout 35-0 at Dyche.
 
Chuck Herron   Tech '85 
 
-----Original Message-----
From: warneradams <warneradams@comcast.net>
To: nwu-sports@romaine.tssi.com
Sent: Sat, 8 Oct 2005 19:30:33 -0500
Subject: [NU Sports] Epic Game


Some other thoughts:

 

Outstanding football weather today and 80% NU fans in my section (10 yard
line, south end of west stands).  Northern Illinois seemed to fill the place
more than Wisconsin fans did.  Certainly there was a sea of red but the
purple filled up their block of the east stands too.  How do so many
Wisconsin fans get great tailgating spots in the east and west parking lots?
I thought those spots were reserved for NU season ticket holders who give
extra $$$.

 

Sutton was a big story but so were the special teams.  The missed xp was bad
but our return game is so much better than in previous years. 

Barry Alvarez ends his career 3-5 at Ryan Field.  Since my sophomore year
(1985) when the Cats broke a 13 game losing streak with a win at Camp
Randall, NU is 10-9 against the Badgers.

I thought we missed a great opportunity at the end of the first half when
Baz didn't throw into the end zone on 3rd and goal.  What happened there?  

The fan with the white Wisconsin Calhoun jersey in front of us enjoyed
standing up and saluting every first down to the NU fans around him.
Usually shouting the word "Houn" when he did it.  His final message to us
was the middle finger as he bolted for the tunnel with the score 51-34.  His
girl friend must be proud.

My seven month old daughter is now 3-0 after staying with a baby sitter for
the PSU game.  We'll be heading to Purdue next weekend to make it four in a
row.

 

I like to watch the game again when I get home so it was more than a little
upsetting to find out my TIVO recorded Va Tech-Marshall instead.  What are
the chances I can pay someone to make a tape of the game for me?  This one
needs to go into the vault.

 

David Warner

Evanston

 

 

 

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From lvaccher at comcast.net  Mon Oct 10 14:11:18 2005
From: lvaccher at comcast.net (Louie Vaccher)
Date: Tue Oct 11 17:19:49 2005
Subject: [NU Sports] Big weekend on/off field for Cats
Message-ID: <001501c5cdce$64c4bfe0$c0d7b043@Louie>

The Cats posted a big win over Wisconsin and also bagged a commitment from Farmington (MI) Harrison WR Sidney Stewart on Saturday. The 6-foot, 165-pounder was at the game on an unofficial visit and is Rivals' 15th-ranked prospect in Michigan.

Here's my story on Stewart but it requires a Rivals subscription: http://northwestern.rivals.com/content.asp?CID=464722  

You can get a glimpse of him on the WildcatReport front page: www.wildcatreport.com 

Be aware that Rivals seems to be experiencing some server issues today, though.

Thanks,

Louie Vaccher
WildcatReport.com

From rstetson at capps-assoc.com  Tue Oct 11 20:11:40 2005
From: rstetson at capps-assoc.com (Roy Lamberton)
Date: Tue Oct 11 20:11:55 2005
Subject: [NU Sports] Epic Game
In-Reply-To: <8C79CB262029B2F-304-11A96@FWM-R35.sysops.aol.com>
Message-ID: <007901c5cec9$e6b706b0$6500a8c0@DAVIDXP>

I would not consider this an "epic" game but there were things that rated being
"epic" performances.

Sutton's rushing, particularly in the 3rd quarter was spectacular. He owes a big
thank you to the middle of the NU O-Line, but still it was quite a performance.

Basanez' passing and rushin complemented Sutton to a T. He deserves the "epic
performance" label.

McGarigle put on a tremendous performance, especially when you closely watch how
good the Wisconsin O-Line actually played. They trapped, cut out, cut blocked,
they did everything they needed to do to give Stocco time to throw. Their
Screens were perfect and the NU defense suffered for it.

The fact that we beat Barry in his last NU game [for now] was a plus.

No the game wasn't Epic but there sure were a few Epic Performances.

rsl

++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
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The Scout.com Northwestern University Site
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: nwu-sports-bounces@tssi.com 
> [mailto:nwu-sports-bounces@tssi.com] On Behalf Of cherron604@aol.com
> Sent: Tuesday, October 11, 2005 3:38 PM
> To: nwu-sports@tssi.com
> Subject: Re: [NU Sports] Epic Game
> 
> 
>  Was this game truly 'Epic' ?
>  
> The definitions seem to cluster around:
>  
> - very imposing or impressive
> - surpassing the ordinary (especially in size or scale)
> - constituting or having to do with or suggestive of a literary epic
>  
> I would probably not consider it imposing (distinguished ?), 
> but it was impressive that a 6.5-7 point underdog was able to win.
>  
> It definitely surpassed the ordinary game in duration (and yards).
>  
> The question is, given that we all want wins - do we want 
> Epic games, or brilliantly played games ?
>  
> For games against Barry Alvarez, the yardstick is always 
> going to be October 21, 1995, When an excellent Badger team 
> was shutout 35-0 at Dyche.
>  
> Chuck Herron   Tech '85 
>  
> -----Original Message-----
> From: warneradams <warneradams@comcast.net>
> To: nwu-sports@romaine.tssi.com
> Sent: Sat, 8 Oct 2005 19:30:33 -0500
> Subject: [NU Sports] Epic Game
> 
> 
> Some other thoughts:
> 
>  
> 
> Outstanding football weather today and 80% NU fans in my 
> section (10 yard line, south end of west stands).  Northern 
> Illinois seemed to fill the place more than Wisconsin fans 
> did.  Certainly there was a sea of red but the purple filled 
> up their block of the east stands too.  How do so many 
> Wisconsin fans get great tailgating spots in the east and 
> west parking lots? I thought those spots were reserved for NU 
> season ticket holders who give extra $$$.
> 
>  
> 
> Sutton was a big story but so were the special teams.  The 
> missed xp was bad but our return game is so much better than 
> in previous years. 
> 
> Barry Alvarez ends his career 3-5 at Ryan Field.  Since my 
> sophomore year
> (1985) when the Cats broke a 13 game losing streak with a win 
> at Camp Randall, NU is 10-9 against the Badgers.
> 
> I thought we missed a great opportunity at the end of the 
> first half when Baz didn't throw into the end zone on 3rd and 
> goal.  What happened there?  
> 
> The fan with the white Wisconsin Calhoun jersey in front of 
> us enjoyed standing up and saluting every first down to the 
> NU fans around him. Usually shouting the word "Houn" when he 
> did it.  His final message to us was the middle finger as he 
> bolted for the tunnel with the score 51-34.  His girl friend 
> must be proud.
> 
> My seven month old daughter is now 3-0 after staying with a 
> baby sitter for the PSU game.  We'll be heading to Purdue 
> next weekend to make it four in a row.
> 
>  
> 
> I like to watch the game again when I get home so it was more 
> than a little upsetting to find out my TIVO recorded Va 
> Tech-Marshall instead.  What are the chances I can pay 
> someone to make a tape of the game for me?  This one needs to 
> go into the vault.
> 
>  
> 
> David Warner
> 
> Evanston
> 
>  
> 
>  
> 
>  
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From sjtruog at yahoo.com  Tue Oct 11 21:59:09 2005
From: sjtruog at yahoo.com (SjT (Stephen J. Truog))
Date: Tue Oct 11 22:00:18 2005
Subject: [NU Sports] Epic Game
In-Reply-To: <8C79CB262029B2F-304-11A96@FWM-R35.sysops.aol.com>
Message-ID: <20051012025909.85547.qmail@web52913.mail.yahoo.com>

Well, I think like Roy said, there were epic
performances -- any time you score six straight
touchdowns on six straight possessions, it's something
extraordinary - and Baz, Sutton and McGarrigle were on
fire.

But as I said Sunday, it didn't have that 54-51 feel
-- maybe because it wasn't Michigan or have the
comeback. It didn't even feel as "epic" as the 47-44
OT thriller in Madison in 2000. But it was still a
great win and a heart-stopping game.

Is NU football "great" football - no, but it is
exciting and fans love to see the offense. You can
blame a lot of things and people for the lack of folks
in the stands in Evanston on Saturday - but you
certainly can't blame what's on the field. NU has
consistently provided entertaining, heart-stopping
football games and more than their share of upsets
over ranked teams during the last decade at Dyche
Stadium. I don't think you can even come close to
finding another college venue (or pro) that has
witnessed as many upsets, last-minute finishes and
"wow" endings as Dyche/Ryan since 1995.

> For games against Barry Alvarez, the yardstick is
> always going to be October 21, 1995, When an
> excellent Badger team was shutout 35-0 at Dyche.
>  
Meh ... a shutout is nice and the homecoming shutout
of Wisconsin was wonderful. But I never felt that we
totally dominated that game like the '96 Iowa
thrashing. And in terms of memorable games, that one
isn't even in the top 5 for 1995 (ND, Michigan, PSU,
Illinois, Iowa would be mine). A satisfying shutout,
but it certainly didn't feel like an epic -- aside
from the goal line stand at the end by the second team
D, not much seems to stand out.

My benchmark Wisconsin game is the following year in
Madison. It was a well-played, back-and-forth game
with good performances on both sides, but when Gowins
missed the long FG and the Badger fans started
celebrating, it looked like a loss ... until that
beautiful Ron Dayne fumble. That got the cheeseheads
worried. And the absolutely perfect stop-and-go call
to D'Wayne after the Schnur scramble (going for the
win and not OT) made it even sweeter. It was the
miracle in Madison and that's my Barry benchmark.

But hey, all the wins over Barry have been sweet for
this Wisconsinite (NOT Cheesehead) ... the '92 one to
knock 'em out of a bowl after I knew I was going to
Evanston ... the '95 shutout ... the '96 miracle ...
the '00 thriller ... the '03 triumph of will and this
'05 shootout.

GO CATS!!!
-SjT

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From michael.vance at att.net  Tue Oct 11 23:11:02 2005
From: michael.vance at att.net (michael.vance@att.net)
Date: Tue Oct 11 23:27:25 2005
Subject: [NU Sports] 3 NU players made Sports Illustrated's top-10 NCAA
	players of the week.
Message-ID: <101220050411.1052.434C8CD60002DD3A0000041C21602807480A0C020E90D2040A0E080C0703@att.net>

It would have been nice if they could've found a picture of McGarigle without his fingers in Calhoun's facemask.  :-)

--
Michael 
mailto:michael@vance.com


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> See: 
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> .performers/content.1.html?cnn=yes 
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From sjtruog at yahoo.com  Tue Oct 11 23:39:40 2005
From: sjtruog at yahoo.com (SjT (Stephen J. Truog))
Date: Tue Oct 11 23:40:54 2005
Subject: [NU Sports] PIGSKIN PICKS - Week 7
Message-ID: <20051012043940.6557.qmail@web52913.mail.yahoo.com>

We have our first THURSDAY NIGHT game of the season,
so make sure your picks are in by kickoff in Carolina
on Thursday night. Another week, another set of
intriguing games in the Big Ten race ... another SEC
whoppah and the annual "do I have to cheer for
someone" game in South Bend.

PIGSKIN PICKS - WEEK 7
######################
Name: 

Big Ten
-------
GAME  1: Indiana @ Iowa             WINNER: 
GAME  2: Michigan St. @ Ohio St.    WINNER: 
GAME  3: Penn State @ Michigan      WINNER: 
GAME  4: Wisconsin @ Minnesota      WINNER: 

National
--------
GAME  5: Southern Cal @ Notre Dame  WINNER: 
GAME  6: Florida @ LSU              WINNER: 
GAME  7: Florida State @ Virginia   WINNER: 
GAME  8: Colorado @ Texas           WINNER: 
GAME  9: Louisville @ W. Virginia   WINNER: 
GAME 10: Clemson @ NC State         WINNER: 

My Picks
========
* Iowa 42, Indiana 14 - Not so fast on the bowl plans,
Hoosiers. The Hawks continue to gain momentum against
the soft center of their Big Ten schedule.

* Ohio St. 20, Michigan St. 17 - Tough call here with
MSU off a bye week and rough loss and OSU off a tough
defeat of their own. Go with the better D and home
team.

* Penn St. 24, Michigan 20 - Great game as a cornered
Wolverine is dangerous ... but PSU's kids are too
young to know they should be scared and pull off
another win.

* Minnesota 35, Wisconsin 31 - A "defensive struggle"
for the Badgers this week as Minny prefers to pound
the ball and grinds out a win for the axe.

* USC 45, Notre Dame 21 - Leinhart shreds the Irish
pass defense and this one's over by half with the
Trojans coming out focused for the national audience.

* LSU 23, Florida 13 - The SEC heavies are beating
each other up this year and Urban feels the wrath of
Death Valley and that Tiger speed on D vs. his spread.

* Florida St. 28, Virginia 20 - FSU's overrated, but
the Cavs are as well and won't be able to expose the
Noles. Their crossstate rivals from VPI might, though.

* Texas 41, Colorado 10 - No stoppin' the Horns in the
Little 12 this year.

* Louisville 47, West Virginia 31 - A Big Least title
game? Why does that league still get a BCS berth? This
game would be more fun if there were a Pittsnoggle
chucking the ball from deep.

* NC State 26, Clemson 23 - Looks like Clemson's
trying for our OT game record and this one could go
extra time as well, but the Pack win at home.

And off the board ...
* Northwestern 49, Purdue 42 - Whoever has the ball
last wins! NU's gotta keep throwing deep to open up
the run for superfrosh Sutton ... and Purdue's O is
still dangerous but not as mature as in the past -
hopefully they'll fumble a couple times to help our
cause.

Remember - picks in by kickoff Thursday!
GO CATS!!!
-SjT

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From bwdolphin146 at yahoo.com  Wed Oct 12 04:54:59 2005
From: bwdolphin146 at yahoo.com (Brad Wilson)
Date: Wed Oct 12 04:56:08 2005
Subject: [NU Sports] defense
Message-ID: <20051012095459.29401.qmail@web51311.mail.yahoo.com>

The hope I have for the defense is that since it is so
young and green, it can still grow and improve. The
run defense has gotten better since the NIU game --
after what NIU did to the defense running I thought
Wisconsin would gain 800 yards rushing -- and as it
firms up the pass defense may well be getting better
too. 

I did think there was slightly better pressure on the
QB vs. Wisconsin (at least listening to WGN) and the
defense came up with two picks. I realize massive
improvement is necessary, but if this bunch learns and
becomes stronger and more confident, I see good
things. After all, with Baz, Sutton, etc., the defense
does not need to be the steel curtain II; steel wool
will do.

Brad Wilson

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From szeller at comcast.net  Wed Oct 12 07:18:21 2005
From: szeller at comcast.net (szeller@comcast.net)
Date: Wed Oct 12 07:34:46 2005
Subject: [NU Sports] FW: Reply of your quote
Message-ID: <101220051218.25743.434CFF0D000D2C520000648F22007507849D0A04040A969C@comcast.net>

>From your Juvenal, translated into English:

"'Who is to guard the guards themselves"

Please elaborate on your obscure reference and how it applys to the Cats.

Scott Zeller MD
From jeffb at hilgraeve.com  Wed Oct 12 08:14:28 2005
From: jeffb at hilgraeve.com (Jeff Beamsley)
Date: Wed Oct 12 08:18:59 2005
Subject: [NU Sports] FW: Reply of your quote
In-Reply-To: <101220051218.25743.434CFF0D000D2C520000648F22007507849D0A04040A969C@comcast.net>
Message-ID: <04a701c5cf2e$e01f9aa0$97492745@hilgraeve.com>

I wouldn't presume to speak for Brad, but I would assume that it is fairly
obvious that the tackles guard the guards. <g>

Jeff


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Behalf Of szeller@comcast.net
Sent: Wednesday, October 12, 2005 8:18 AM
To: nwu-sports@tssi.com
Subject: [NU Sports] FW: Reply of your quote

>From your Juvenal, translated into English:

"'Who is to guard the guards themselves"

Please elaborate on your obscure reference and how it applys to the Cats.

Scott Zeller MD
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From rstetson at capps-assoc.com  Wed Oct 12 08:31:06 2005
From: rstetson at capps-assoc.com (Roy Lamberton)
Date: Wed Oct 12 08:31:22 2005
Subject: [NU Sports] NU Sports News Digest 10/12
Message-ID: <008001c5cf31$34267590$6500a8c0@DAVIDXP>

www.PurpleWildcats.com
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The Real Columbus Day Edition

More Football, Big 10 etc., Midweek Volleyball and Soccer, and Alumni updates
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         All the News that Fits We Link
            Your Index to News about
       Northwestern University Athletics


FOOTBALL

     NU's Walker concerned after ego-statistical win
      http://www.suntimes.com/output/campus/cst-spt-crep12.html
     Midterms
 
http://www.dailynorthwestern.com/vnews/display.v/ART/2005/10/12/434cb8fe19df8
     SportsXchange: Inside Slant
      http://msn.foxsports.com/cfb/teamReport?categoryId=86065&type=InsideSlant
     + Strategy and Personnel
 
http://msn.foxsports.com/cfb/teamReport?categoryId=86065&type=StrategyAndPersonn
el
     + Notes and Quotes
 
http://msn.foxsports.com/cfb/teamReport?categoryId=86065&type=NotesAndQuotes

     Big Ten burying postgame flag plantings
 
http://www.usatoday.com/sports/college/football/bigten/2005-10-12-flag-planting-
ban_x.htm?csp=34

Next Up

     @ Purdue Boilermakers [10/15]
     Purdue needs wins to keep bowl streak alive
      http://www.fortwayne.com/mld/newssentinel/sports/12876036.htm
     + In the huddle: Purdue Boilermakers
 
http://www.indystar.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20051012/SPORTS/510120418/100
4/SPORTS
     + Purdue getting beat up front, then on the ...
 
http://www.post-trib.com/cgi-bin/pto-story/sports/z1/10-12-05_z1_spor_09.html
     + Defensive changes yield best performance to date
 
http://www.purdueexponent.org/index.php/module/Issue/action/Article/article_id/1
260
     + Coach on secondary's play
      http://www.purdueexponent.org/mojavi/Update/audio/DM100720.mp3
     + Coach on Ray Williams' play
      http://www.purdueexponent.org/mojavi/Update/audio/DM100721.mp3
     + Coach on Kyle Ingraham's impact
      http://www.purdueexponent.org/mojavi/Update/audio/DM100727.mp3
     + Coach on team's emotions
      http://www.purdueexponent.org/mojavi/Update/audio/DM100728.mp3
     + Boilers must regain focus to make bowl game
 
http://www.purdueexponent.org/index.php/module/Issue/action/Article/article_id/1
265

Future Big 10 Opponents:

     @ Michigan State Spartans [10/22]  Ohio State
     Defense feels mistakes corrected
      http://michiganstate.scout.com/2/450872.html

     Michigan Wolverines [10/29 Homecoming] Penn State
     Michael Taylor: The Losses, The Offense
      http://michigan.scout.com/2/451415.html
     + Breaking down 'the run'
      http://www.michigandaily.com/vnews/display.v/ART/2005/10/12/434c9ad61e890

     Then its:
     Iowa Hawkeyes [11/5]  Play Indiana
     Hawkeyes rekindle their passion
 
http://www.hawkcentral.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20051012/HAWKS0104/5101203
18/1080
     + Kirk on the Side Transcript: 10/11
      http://iowa.scout.com/2/451079.html
     + Iowa Football: Fall Rising
      http://iowa.scout.com/2/451403.html
     + Getting to know the Hawks
 
http://www.hawkcentral.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20051012/HAWKS0104/5101203
19/1080
     + This campaign looks like Iowa's 2004 bowl quest
 
http://www.desmoinesregister.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20051012/SPORTS02050
2/510120355/1003/SPORTS

     @ Ohio State Buckeyes [11/12]  at MSU
     Illinois Fighting Illini [11/19] Bye Week
     Illinois' 'O' breaks down
      http://www.dailyherald.com/sports/illinois.asp?id=103816

Miscellaneous Football News:

     Speedy linebackers dot conference
 
http://www.dailynorthwestern.com/vnews/display.v/ART/2005/10/12/434cb4e10febb
     UW returns to the basics after defeat
      http://www.beloitdailynews.com/articles/2005/10/11/sports/sports03.txt
     Big Ten Weekly Football Release -- Oct. 10
 
http://www.fansonly.com/schools/big10/sports/m-footbl/spec-rel/101005aac.html
     Player of the Week award goes to UCLA's Drew
 
http://www.usatoday.com/sports/college/football/2005-10-10-player-of-week_x.htm?
csp=34
     Parity flip-flops standings
      http://www.statenews.com/article.phtml?pk=32302

Recruiting



BASKETBALL

     Big 10:
     Iowa's Brunner eyes major role
 
http://www.desmoinesregister.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20051012/SPORTS02050
101/510120352/1003/SPORTS&lead=1

GOLF

     Led By Dan Doyle, 15th-Ranked Northwestern Surges and Nearly Wins Duke
Classic
      http://www.fansonly.com/schools/nw/sports/m-golf/recaps/101005aac.html

SOCCER

     Men
     Northwestern to Rumble with the Ramblers
      http://www.fansonly.com/schools/nw/sports/m-soccer/spec-rel/101205aab.html
     Defensive inefficiency haunts Wildcats
 
http://www.dailynorthwestern.com/vnews/display.v/ART/2005/10/12/434cb6e8e6c1e

SWIMMING & DIVING

     Women's Swimming and Diving Gets Under Way
 
http://www.fansonly.com/schools/big10/sports/w-swim/spec-rel/101105aaa.html


VOLLEYBALL

     Northwestern Set for Midweek Matchup in Madison
      http://www.fansonly.com/schools/nw/sports/w-volley/spec-rel/101005aab.html

     + NU takes road trip to No. 8 Wisconsin
 
http://www.dailynorthwestern.com/vnews/display.v/ART/2005/10/12/434cb7d185192 

     From the UW Side...
      Volleyball Hosts Northwestern Wednesday
 
http://www.uwbadgers.com/sport_news/vb/headlines/full_story.aspx?story_id=2005_1
0_11_13_45_14_vb 
     + Waite's squad looking to rebound
      http://badgerherald.com/sports/2005/10/12/waites_squad_lookin.php 

ALUMNI

     Luis Castillo: Steelers relieved Roethlisberger's injury not serious
      http://www.dailysouthtown.com/southtown/dssports/pro/122sd9.htm 
     + Bolts happy with draft picks despite loss
      http://www.chargers.com/news/headline_detail.cfm?news_key=2358 

     Mark Loretta: Padres aim to acquire bigger offense
 
http://sandiego.padres.mlb.com/NASApp/mlb/news/article.jsp?ymd=20051009&content_
id=1244364&vkey=news_sd&fext=.jsp&c_id=sd 

     PGA: [Links on Player's Name is their live scorecard]
     Luke Donald - Next scheduled for the Volvo Masters Oct 27th
      http://www.europeantour.com/Tournaments/latest.sps?iTourNo=2005076 
     The guys on the Nationwide Tour...
     The Permian Basin Charity Golf Classic
      http://www.pgatour.com/tournaments/h038 
     Tom Johnson - Back in action - scheduled to appear

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From: rstetson at capps-assoc.com (Roy Lamberton)
Date: Wed Oct 12 08:32:33 2005
Subject: [NU Sports] NU Sports News Digest 10/12
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FOOTBALL

     NU's Walker concerned after ego-statistical win
      http://www.suntimes.com/output/campus/cst-spt-crep12.html
     Midterms
 
http://www.dailynorthwestern.com/vnews/display.v/ART/2005/10/12/434cb8fe19df8
     SportsXchange: Inside Slant
      http://msn.foxsports.com/cfb/teamReport?categoryId=86065&type=InsideSlant
     + Strategy and Personnel
 
http://msn.foxsports.com/cfb/teamReport?categoryId=86065&type=StrategyAndPersonn
el
     + Notes and Quotes
 
http://msn.foxsports.com/cfb/teamReport?categoryId=86065&type=NotesAndQuotes

     Big Ten burying postgame flag plantings
 
http://www.usatoday.com/sports/college/football/bigten/2005-10-12-flag-planting-
ban_x.htm?csp=34

Next Up

     @ Purdue Boilermakers [10/15]
     Purdue needs wins to keep bowl streak alive
      http://www.fortwayne.com/mld/newssentinel/sports/12876036.htm
     + In the huddle: Purdue Boilermakers
 
http://www.indystar.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20051012/SPORTS/510120418/100
4/SPORTS
     + Purdue getting beat up front, then on the ...
 
http://www.post-trib.com/cgi-bin/pto-story/sports/z1/10-12-05_z1_spor_09.html
     + Defensive changes yield best performance to date
 
http://www.purdueexponent.org/index.php/module/Issue/action/Article/article_id/1
260
     + Coach on secondary's play
      http://www.purdueexponent.org/mojavi/Update/audio/DM100720.mp3
     + Coach on Ray Williams' play
      http://www.purdueexponent.org/mojavi/Update/audio/DM100721.mp3
     + Coach on Kyle Ingraham's impact
      http://www.purdueexponent.org/mojavi/Update/audio/DM100727.mp3
     + Coach on team's emotions
      http://www.purdueexponent.org/mojavi/Update/audio/DM100728.mp3
     + Boilers must regain focus to make bowl game
 
http://www.purdueexponent.org/index.php/module/Issue/action/Article/article_id/1
265

Future Big 10 Opponents:

     @ Michigan State Spartans [10/22]  Ohio State
     Defense feels mistakes corrected
      http://michiganstate.scout.com/2/450872.html

     Michigan Wolverines [10/29 Homecoming] Penn State
     Michael Taylor: The Losses, The Offense
      http://michigan.scout.com/2/451415.html
     + Breaking down 'the run'
      http://www.michigandaily.com/vnews/display.v/ART/2005/10/12/434c9ad61e890

     Then its:
     Iowa Hawkeyes [11/5]  Play Indiana
     Hawkeyes rekindle their passion
 
http://www.hawkcentral.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20051012/HAWKS0104/5101203
18/1080
     + Kirk on the Side Transcript: 10/11
      http://iowa.scout.com/2/451079.html
     + Iowa Football: Fall Rising
      http://iowa.scout.com/2/451403.html
     + Getting to know the Hawks
 
http://www.hawkcentral.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20051012/HAWKS0104/5101203
19/1080
     + This campaign looks like Iowa's 2004 bowl quest
 
http://www.desmoinesregister.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20051012/SPORTS02050
2/510120355/1003/SPORTS

     @ Ohio State Buckeyes [11/12]  at MSU
     Illinois Fighting Illini [11/19] Bye Week
     Illinois' 'O' breaks down
      http://www.dailyherald.com/sports/illinois.asp?id=103816

Miscellaneous Football News:

     Speedy linebackers dot conference
 
http://www.dailynorthwestern.com/vnews/display.v/ART/2005/10/12/434cb4e10febb
     UW returns to the basics after defeat
      http://www.beloitdailynews.com/articles/2005/10/11/sports/sports03.txt
     Big Ten Weekly Football Release -- Oct. 10
 
http://www.fansonly.com/schools/big10/sports/m-footbl/spec-rel/101005aac.html
     Player of the Week award goes to UCLA's Drew
 
http://www.usatoday.com/sports/college/football/2005-10-10-player-of-week_x.htm?
csp=34
     Parity flip-flops standings
      http://www.statenews.com/article.phtml?pk=32302

Recruiting



BASKETBALL

     Big 10:
     Iowa's Brunner eyes major role
 
http://www.desmoinesregister.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20051012/SPORTS02050
101/510120352/1003/SPORTS&lead=1

GOLF

     Led By Dan Doyle, 15th-Ranked Northwestern Surges and Nearly Wins Duke
Classic
      http://www.fansonly.com/schools/nw/sports/m-golf/recaps/101005aac.html

SOCCER

     Men
     Northwestern to Rumble with the Ramblers
      http://www.fansonly.com/schools/nw/sports/m-soccer/spec-rel/101205aab.html
     Defensive inefficiency haunts Wildcats
 
http://www.dailynorthwestern.com/vnews/display.v/ART/2005/10/12/434cb6e8e6c1e

SWIMMING & DIVING

     Women's Swimming and Diving Gets Under Way
 
http://www.fansonly.com/schools/big10/sports/w-swim/spec-rel/101105aaa.html


VOLLEYBALL

     Northwestern Set for Midweek Matchup in Madison
      http://www.fansonly.com/schools/nw/sports/w-volley/spec-rel/101005aab.html

     + NU takes road trip to No. 8 Wisconsin
 
http://www.dailynorthwestern.com/vnews/display.v/ART/2005/10/12/434cb7d185192 

     From the UW Side...
      Volleyball Hosts Northwestern Wednesday
 
http://www.uwbadgers.com/sport_news/vb/headlines/full_story.aspx?story_id=2005_1
0_11_13_45_14_vb 
     + Waite's squad looking to rebound
      http://badgerherald.com/sports/2005/10/12/waites_squad_lookin.php 

ALUMNI

     Luis Castillo: Steelers relieved Roethlisberger's injury not serious
      http://www.dailysouthtown.com/southtown/dssports/pro/122sd9.htm 
     + Bolts happy with draft picks despite loss
      http://www.chargers.com/news/headline_detail.cfm?news_key=2358 

     Mark Loretta: Padres aim to acquire bigger offense
 
http://sandiego.padres.mlb.com/NASApp/mlb/news/article.jsp?ymd=20051009&content_
id=1244364&vkey=news_sd&fext=.jsp&c_id=sd 

     PGA: [Links on Player's Name is their live scorecard]
     Luke Donald - Next scheduled for the Volvo Masters Oct 27th
      http://www.europeantour.com/Tournaments/latest.sps?iTourNo=2005076 
     The guys on the Nationwide Tour...
     The Permian Basin Charity Golf Classic
      http://www.pgatour.com/tournaments/h038 
     Tom Johnson - Back in action - scheduled to appear

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From warneradams at comcast.net  Wed Oct 12 09:03:21 2005
From: warneradams at comcast.net (warneradams)
Date: Wed Oct 12 09:03:56 2005
Subject: [NU Sports] Favorite Wisconsin Win
In-Reply-To: <20051012025909.85547.qmail@web52913.mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <200510121403.j9CE3rbl032426@gw.tssi.com>

My favorite Wisconsin win might be the 1985 game I listened to over the
radio at Norris during my sophomore year.  The game was piped in over the
speakers and with about ten people (whom I never saw again) we listened to
the second half of our upset win.   



From sjtruog at yahoo.com  Wed Oct 12 08:11:42 2005
From: sjtruog at yahoo.com (SjT (Stephen J. Truog))
Date: Wed Oct 12 09:11:51 2005
Subject: [NU Sports] defense
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> young and green, it can still grow and improve. The
> run defense has gotten better since the NIU game --
> after what NIU did to the defense running I thought

Well, the last few years, we've been a decent
one-dimensional defense. We have been trying to take
the run game away to make an opponent one-dimensional.
When balanced teams exploit that (Michigan?), then we
get in trouble.

> I did think there was slightly better pressure on
> the

Definitely - McGarrigle had two sacks (sacks?! never
thought I'd see that from NU:) ) and that final pick
was partially the result of pressure in the end zone
from the D-line. One more second and we'd have had a
safety, so Stocco had to throw.

> does not need to be the steel curtain II; steel wool
> will do.

Amen to that.:)

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From rstetson at capps-assoc.com  Wed Oct 12 10:48:56 2005
From: rstetson at capps-assoc.com (Roy Lamberton)
Date: Wed Oct 12 10:55:45 2005
Subject: [NU Sports] defense
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That pressure was one of Barry C's QB hurries - he had 2 in the game.

rsl

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>  and that final pick
> was partially the result of pressure in the end zone
> from the D-line. One more second and we'd have had a
> safety, so Stocco had to throw.

From rstetson at capps-assoc.com  Fri Oct 14 09:54:49 2005
From: rstetson at capps-assoc.com (Roy Lamberton)
Date: Fri Oct 14 09:55:01 2005
Subject: [NU Sports] NU Sports News Digest 10/14
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Boil the Boilers Edition

Its the wounded Boilermakers for the resurgent Wildcats this week, plus lots of
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FOOTBALL

     Defense seeking boost vs. Boilers
 
http://chicagosports.chicagotribune.com/sports/college/cs-051012colfootnu,1,2683
757.story?coll=cs-college-headlines
     + Walker: Time to get aggressive
 
http://www.pioneerlocal.com/cgi-bin/ppo-story/sports/current/ev/10-13-05-711341.
html
     Walker not quite ready to call this 'O' NU's best
      http://www.suntimes.com/output/campus/cst-spt-crep14.html
     + Spreading it Out
 
http://www.dailynorthwestern.com/vnews/display.v/ART/2005/10/14/434f5db64544f
     He's 1 cool Cat
 
http://chicagosports.chicagotribune.com/sports/college/northwestern/cs-051012022
1oct12,1,3833335.story?coll=cs-college-nwestern-print
     Pregame Reports:
     WNUR: Pregame Report
      http://sports.wnur.org/football/gppurdue05.html
     The Daily: Defenseless teams face off
 
http://www.dailynorthwestern.com/vnews/display.v/ART/2005/10/14/434f688784a55

Next Up

     @ Purdue Boilermakers [10/15]
     Receiver preps before Purdue fame

     + Victory against Northwestern could start winning trend
 
http://www.purdueexponent.org/index.php/module/Issue/action/Article/article_id/1
307
     + Purdue struggles to maintain Ross-Ade's damaged turf
 
http://www.purdueexponent.org/index.php/module/Issue/action/Article/article_id/1
304
     + Switch good for senior, Purdue
 
http://www.boilerstation.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20051014/SPORTS020101/51
0140335/1122/BOILER
     + Ends realize improvement needed
 
http://www.boilerstation.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20051013/SPORTS020101/51
0130333/1122/BOILER

Future Big 10 Opponents:

     @ Michigan State Spartans [10/22]  Ohio State
     Michigan Wolverines [10/29 Homecoming] Penn State
     Iowa Hawkeyes [11/5]  Play Indiana
      @ Ohio State Buckeyes [11/12]  at MSU
     Illinois Fighting Illini [11/19] Bye Week

Miscellaneous Football News:

     It's season-salvaging time again
 
http://www.dailynorthwestern.com/vnews/display.v/ART/2005/10/14/434f62e8d2ba2 

Recruiting

     Recruit Update 10/13
      http://northwestern.scout.com/2/452024.html 
     NU nabs possible heir to Basanez
 
http://chicagosports.chicagotribune.com/sports/college/cs-051011colfootnu,1,2028
396.story?coll=cs-college-headlines 
     Regional Football Rankings
      http://story.scout.com/a.z?s=179&p=2&c=451755 
     Lubischer taking it all in stride
      http://story.scout.com/a.z?s=179&p=2&c=452299 

BASKETBALL

     Big 10:
     IU's expectations 'should be high' in Davis' 6th season
 
http://www.indystar.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20051014/SPORTS0601/510140551
/1004/SPORTS 
     'Mackey Magic' not in this team's best interests
 
http://www.boilerstation.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20051013/COLUMNISTS11/51
0130334/1122/BOILER 

CROSS COUNTRY

     Leinart and Maroney and Avant - O my!
 
http://www.dailynorthwestern.com/vnews/display.v/ART/2005/10/14/434f5b1a66729 

FIELD HOCKEY

     Wildcats Host No. 12 Hawkeyes in Conference Showdown
      http://www.fansonly.com/schools/nw/sports/w-fieldh/spec-rel/101305aab.html


     Cats take mulligan against Hawkeyes
 
http://www.dailynorthwestern.com/vnews/display.v/ART/2005/10/14/434f5807d13af 

GOLF

     Men
     Wildcats Continue Busy Stretch With Bank of Tennessee Intercollegiate at
the Ridges
      http://www.fansonly.com/schools/nw/sports/m-golf/spec-rel/101305aaa.html 

     Women
     Wildcats Return to Action at 35th Lady Paladin Invitational
      http://www.fansonly.com/schools/nw/sports/w-golf/spec-rel/101305aaa.html 

SOCCER

     Women
     Northwestern Looks to Make Up Ground Against Indiana, No. 23 Purdue
      http://www.fansonly.com/schools/nw/sports/w-soccer/spec-rel/101305aaa.html

     + Wildcats look to crawl out of Big Ten cellar in 2 weekend games (Women's
soccer)
 
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     Men
     NU attempts to prove win was no fluke
 
http://www.dailynorthwestern.com/vnews/display.v/ART/2005/10/14/434f59440b772 

VOLLEYBALL

     Wildcats Host Hoosiers Saturday at Welsh-Ryan Arena
      http://www.fansonly.com/schools/nw/sports/w-volley/spec-rel/101305aae.html

     + Youth promote hope for future team success
 
http://www.dailynorthwestern.com/vnews/display.v/ART/2005/10/14/434f5d9386d7e 
     No. 8 Wisconsin Sweeps Northwestern, 3-0
      http://www.fansonly.com/schools/nw/sports/w-volley/recaps/101205aaa.html 
     All In The Family
      http://www.fansonly.com/schools/nw/sports/w-volley/spec-rel/101305aab.html


ALUMNI

     Luis Castillo Lewin: 24-22 and Blue
      http://www.chargers.com/news/headline_detail.cfm?news_key=2360 
     PGA: [Links on Player's Name is their live scorecard]
     Luke Donald - Next scheduled for the Volvo Masters Oct 27th
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     The Nationwide Tour...
     The Permian Basin Charity Golf Classic
      http://www.pgatour.com/tournaments/h038 
     Tom Johnson - At even par after his first round. Tied for 71st
     http://www.pgatour.com/players/scorecard/466839/h038/2005 

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From jleonard518 at yahoo.com  Fri Oct 14 19:33:44 2005
From: jleonard518 at yahoo.com (Jim Leonard)
Date: Fri Oct 14 19:34:52 2005
Subject: [NU Sports] Purdon't Purdiction
In-Reply-To: <004601c5d0cf$3ac00e80$6500a8c0@DAVIDXP>
Message-ID: <20051015003344.26471.qmail@web30305.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

Fellow Wildcat Faithful,

I think the Cats are due for their first victory in West Lafayette since 1995.
I predict a Cats victory of 47-30. Sutton will have a monster day.

Victory & Honor,
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From johnl at mac.com  Fri Oct 14 22:17:53 2005
From: johnl at mac.com (John Labbe)
Date: Fri Oct 14 22:18:04 2005
Subject: [NU Sports] Purdon't Purdiction
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I think you're about right on the money.  Personally, I think our 
defense is going to have a "career" day tomorrow.  Our defense is 
motivated by the team's overall success last week, yet challenged by 
their inability to keep Wisconsin from scoring 48 points.  I think a 
good day for our defense will be giving up about 30 points, so I like 
your prediction.

I'm making the trek down tomorrow morning expecting to witness my first 
win at Ross-Ade.




On Oct 14, 2005, at 7:33 PM, Jim Leonard wrote:

> Fellow Wildcat Faithful,
>
> I think the Cats are due for their first victory in West Lafayette 
> since 1995.
> I predict a Cats victory of 47-30. Sutton will have a monster day.
>
> Victory & Honor,
> Jim
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From michael.vance at att.net  Fri Oct 14 22:54:44 2005
From: michael.vance at att.net (Michael Vance)
Date: Fri Oct 14 22:56:28 2005
Subject: [NU Sports] Purdon't Purdiction
In-Reply-To: <20051015003344.26471.qmail@web30305.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
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The Indianapolis Star had a sidebar to an article about the USC-ND matchup 
talking about SC's powerful offense, and rhetorically raising the question 
of whether it is the best ever.  To help answer the question, they offered 
a list of "five other outstanding college offenses to consider":

1) Nebraska 1995
2) Miami 2001
3) Florida 1996
4) Oklahoma 1956
5) Any team that plays Purdue this season

I think that Jim's prediction is close.  Since it's homecoming, I'll give 
Purdue another TD to make it 47-37.  I'll be there for my first trip to 
Ross-Ade, a Purple beacon in a sea of Old Gold and Black in the south end zone.

Go 'Cats!

-Michael

At 10/14/2005 07:33 PM, Jim Leonard wrote:
>Fellow Wildcat Faithful,
>
>I think the Cats are due for their first victory in West Lafayette since 1995.
>I predict a Cats victory of 47-30. Sutton will have a monster day.
>
>Victory & Honor,
>Jim

From DPENDERG at aol.com  Sat Oct 15 08:08:04 2005
From: DPENDERG at aol.com (DPENDERG@aol.com)
Date: Sat Oct 15 08:09:31 2005
Subject: [NU Sports] Purdon't Purdiction
Message-ID: <9a.2f8e36b9.30825934@aol.com>

 
All of the euphoria from the Wisconsin victory evidently has blurred the  
reality that the Cat defense is very suspect and no one knows what will show up  
today in West Lafayette. I worry also that the word LETDOWN  may be a  factor, 
too.  I hesitate to predict a W or a L.  It probably will be a  close, 
high-scoring game.  I just hope that Randy and staff have the team  ready for a 
tough battle on the road (where Cats usually have not done  well).   A victory 
today could well make the difference staying home or  bowling in December. 
 
In a message dated 10/14/2005 8:36:33 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,  
jleonard518@yahoo.com writes:

Fellow  Wildcat Faithful,

I think the Cats are due for their first victory in  West Lafayette since 
1995.
I predict a Cats victory of 47-30. Sutton will  have a monster day.

Victory & Honor,
Jim




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From sjtruog at yahoo.com  Sat Oct 15 12:50:50 2005
From: sjtruog at yahoo.com (SjT (Stephen J. Truog))
Date: Sat Oct 15 12:51:59 2005
Subject: [NU Sports] One quarter done in Moo-Moo Land ...
Message-ID: <20051015175051.31073.qmail@web52913.mail.yahoo.com>

Random thoughts from watching the TV coverage (in
chronological order) ...

- Play action! I LOVE play action! We used it last
week and again for a big TD here. Nice call! 7-0!

- SOOOOO close to a couple picks on Purdue's first two
drives, so at least we're getting closer.:)

- Let the track meet begin ... 4th down is even worse
than 3rd down for our defense.

- Right call on the replay - the announcers kept
calling it a TD and I'm screaming "touchback!
touchback!" with the fumble.

- Looks like Purdue is really focusing on TS. Gotta
get that running game going soon.

- Great 3rd down scramble by Baz ... bad drop by Kim.
That was a first down right in the hands. DOH! That
was one early chance by the O to put some distance and
go up two scores wasted ... hopefully it won't hurt
us.

- Can we get Purdue backed up BEHIND their 40 to start
a drive? Sheesh.

- Nice pick - thanks Kirsch. We really need to win the
turnover battle today and gotta capitalize on this TO.

- When Baz and the O get clicking, it's a lot of fun
to watch. Still need to get Sutton going on the
ground, but nice call to get him involved via the
pass.

- We have a fullback? Cool! Next you'll tell me we
have a tight end! In any case, GREAT DRIVE and
TOUCHDOWN -- excellent O-line protection all drive!
14-0!

- Already you see Baz spreading it around -- both TDs
were not to our top 5 receivers (Philmore, Herbert,
Fields, Thompson and Sutton) and Lane is moving up on
Baz's favorite list quickly as well. Nice to see the
depth and that Baz is looking at all his options (6
different receivers in the first quarter alone).

- Some nice hustle plays on D - but we're still too
inconsistent to put together three stops in a row. At
least it was just a FG. 14-3.

So a promising start - the O is still clicking and the
D is hustling ... but I still think we'll need 40+ to
win this game, so keep going O!

End of 1 ... NORTHWESTERN 14, Purdue 3.

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From sjtruog at yahoo.com  Sat Oct 15 13:49:01 2005
From: sjtruog at yahoo.com (SjT (Stephen J. Truog))
Date: Sat Oct 15 13:50:11 2005
Subject: [NU Sports] Halftime in Cornland ...
Message-ID: <20051015184901.32932.qmail@web52907.mail.yahoo.com>

Quarter number 2 ...

- Nice to see Baz still engineering an effective
drive, but I hope we're using the pass to set up the
run and get Sutton going sooner or later.

- Speaking of our fab frosh ... it's only a 5 yard run
down to the 7, but he had to have broken 10 tackles.
WOW!

- Baz for SIX!!! 200+ yards, 3 touchdowns already.
This is a senior leader who is just seeing the whole
game in slow motion right now and has his offense on a
roll. 21-3 ... keep it going, O. Don't let up and let
Baz cool down.

- Some hard hits and at least the D isn't making it
easy all in a big play or two ... but they're still
giving up 1st down after 1st down as the opponent
keeps marching downfield. UGH!

- Did my eyes deceive me, or did we get a 3rd down
stop? Uh oh ... 4th down ... dang. Stupid holding call
... double dang. And then we get fooled on that statue
of liberty reverse again for a TD. 21-9.

- Dumb penalty stops us deep after the kickoff - DOH!

- NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO! Get up Baz! PLEASE!!!

- Perfect call on the screen with Baz out to get the
first down and keep from losing momentum.

- Still can't get TS going.

- Thank goodness Brett's back in. Whew. But make the
friggin' catch wideouts to help him out.

- C'mon D ... need a stop or turnover to keep the
Boilers from sneaking back in this.

- TIMMY!!! What a much-needed fumble recovery by our
all-American linebacker. Just what we needed before
the half!

- TYRELL!!! We finally break one on the ground.

- Right call on 4th and 1 ... Tiller's going for it
all day, so we'll have to when we can.

- NOOOOOOOOOOOO! Now Tyrell's down. UGH!

- Nice finish of the drive (since that PSU game, we've
learned our lesson on O -- get six, not three). 28-9.
Now hold on before half!

- C'mon D! Our secondary may not be able to cover yet,
but they are hitting HARD today!

- McGarrigle = Fitz Jr. If I could just block out the
rest of the D and watch #41 play, I think I'd be a lot
happier when the opponent has the ball.

- Looks like both QBs could have 500 yards today.

- A FOURTH DOWN STOP!!!!!!!!!!! WOOHOO!!!!!!!!!!!!

- Didn't like the use of time at the end of the half
... second week in a row Baz and the O wasted time at
the end of the half.

And that's the half. We lead 28-9, but there's a long
way to go and Purdue has the ball first in the 3rd.

So Purdue could have been right in this if they hadn't
had the turnovers and we could have blown it out if we
didn't have a couple inopportune penalties in the 2nd
quarter. Overall, I guess we'll have to take it at the
half.

Elsewhere in the league, looks like another wild
weekend with MSU/OSU and UM/UW flipping back and forth
... and even Indiana's hanging in there with the
Hog-eyes in Kinnick.

Couple notes heading into the locker room ...

What I do like about our D is their aggressiveness
this week. Yes, we're giving up yards and not stopping
them yet ... but we've chucked out the soft-cover
zones and play-it-safe mentality. We're blitizing,
covering aggressively and making plays to almost tip
balls. Sooner or later, we'll make those tips and get
more of those turnovers and I like that mentality to
attack on D just like we attack on O. Will it give up
big plays? Yes, but we gotta have that aggressiveness.

After our "epic" discussion last week, I was thinking
all week about what the game reminded me of ... it was
not as thrilling as the 47-44 or 54-51 wins in 2000
even though the score was as close -- what it reminded
me of more was that thrashing at East Lansing in
between those Wisconsin and Michigan wins of 2000. In
that game, I just remember Zak and DA2 looking
unstoppable on O and the rest of the game didn't
matter because they were going to keep scoring.

Keep it up for one more half guys.

GO CATS!!!
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From sjtruog at yahoo.com  Sat Oct 15 14:52:51 2005
From: sjtruog at yahoo.com (SjT (Stephen J. Truog))
Date: Sat Oct 15 14:54:00 2005
Subject: [NU Sports] Through three at West Lafayette ...
Message-ID: <20051015195251.43205.qmail@web52907.mail.yahoo.com>

And the second half begins ...

- 95 yard return ... untouched ... ouch! Guess we'd
better stick with those pooch kicks.

- There we go O ... feed Sutton.

- Dangit ... the O line couldn't hold the blitz. Gotta
punt.

- Hey ... a sack! Too bad it couldn't come on a 3rd
down.

- Whew ... we dodged a big-time momentum bullet with
the missed FG.

- WILD! momentum swings and finishes in Minneapolis
and Columbus. This Big Ten race gets more bizarre each
week.

- Dang dropped balls - c'mon wideouts!

- QB change? Uh oh - this almost cost us last year in
the Purdoo game. Let's rattle the kid, D!

- Horrible interference call to keep the drive alive
at midfield ... hope that doesn't bite us later.

- McGarrigle is EVERYWHERE! Nice coverage.

- C'mon O ... time to wake up and quit letting the
Boilers hang around.

- We still haven't got the ground game going. Ugh.

- Well ... the D hasn't allowed the Boilers to come
back, but slow O and special teams nightmares have
Purdue right back in the darn game.

- TD Boilers. Dangit. 28-23.

- This game is starting to resemble the PSU game more
than the Wisky game ... we started hot on O and then
fell asleep to allow Purdue back in the game. And this
time nobody should be able to blame the D.

- Another ineffective offensive series ... we've lost
all momentum on offense and have too many dropped
balls.

- We're fortunate Purdue's having as many passing
problems as we are to still be ahead at the end of
three.

- Nice screen call to try and keep Sutton involved,
but the O-line's gotta get the ground game going.

WAKE UP OFFENSE!!!

One very Rolaids-worthy quarter to go. We shoulda had
this thing locked up by now. UGH!!!

GO CATS!!!
-SjT

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From sjtruog at yahoo.com  Sat Oct 15 15:52:17 2005
From: sjtruog at yahoo.com (SjT (Stephen J. Truog))
Date: Sat Oct 15 15:53:25 2005
Subject: [NU Sports] And it's over ...
Message-ID: <20051015205217.61195.qmail@web52913.mail.yahoo.com>

Buckle your seats, Cat fans ...

- What's with all these drops!!! Baz is putting it
right on the money but his receivers are dropping the
game.

- Gotta love Baz's heart ... but hope he's not getting
too frustrated. Bad kick and no points from the drive.
UGH!

- Is this a defensive struggle or an offensive
nightmare in the second half? Next mistake wins???
Let's make a play, offense!!!

- Love how the announcers are calling him "Baz" now
too - ya gotta love this kid and this ESPN2 team can't
stop gushing about him the last couple weeks.

- That fumble loss hurts a lot. A heckuva lot because
we were this/close to reclaiming momentum.

- 98 yards later, we lose the lead. This is looking
more and more like the PSU collapse. What the heck
happened to the offense? Dropped passes, penalties,
turnovers - this has been an atrocious second half on
offense. 28-29.

- 3rd and 10 ... better pick up the blitz ... nice
catch (finally!) by Fields. Now GO O!!!

- Hope this doesn't come down to a field goal with the
atrocious kicking by both sides today.

- More drops ... these are in the end zone. Baz has to
be pizzed. Waaaaay too much time left as well. Ugh.

- Sooooooo close for Baz at the goal line ... Tough
call to go for it or the FG with our D. But with
almost 2 minutes left, a 2-point lead is nothing. Good
call - good touchdown (where were those in the 2nd
half?) ... now the conversion. Nope. 34-29. Woulda
liked to have that conversion. Dang.

- C'mon D! DE-FENSE! DE-FENSE!

- Risky kickoff to not pooch after the return - Walker
and Tiller are both gamblers. Thank goodness it didn't
backfire.

- That poor clock management at the end of the 1st
half looms large now.

-
YESSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Another BIG pick by the D late!!! COLE!!! COLE!!!
COLE!!!

The much-maligned defense comes up BIG for a second
straight week (remember, the first two TDs in the
second half were off special teams) to bail out a
sputtering offense in the second half.

Folks, this is a BIG win. This puts us at 2-1 in
league play, 4-2 overall and in position to get to
that 6-win mark again that would really signal a
consistent program. And we're a play away from 5-1 and
the inside track to the league title. A BIG win for
this team and for Coach Walker - congrats on hanging
on, Cats!

Next week, MSU ... hopefully after two hard losses,
Sparty will go into its usual midseason funk. In any
case, we'll need to be a lot more sharp on offense to
play with Sparty's Spread up in East Lansing.

BIG win for the Cats and a big game next week in East
Lansing before we return home. Can't look ahead though
... one game at a time and it's time to BEAT MSU!!!

GO CATS!!!
-SjT

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From NEONRye at aol.com  Sat Oct 15 15:56:42 2005
From: NEONRye at aol.com (NEONRye@aol.com)
Date: Sat Oct 15 16:00:39 2005
Subject: [NU Sports] Cardiac Cats Do It Again
Message-ID: <1de.45ce14a2.3082c70a@aol.com>

I love being the first post.....My 87-year-old dad, who has only attended 2  
NU games in person--an Opening Day Loss vs. N*** D*** in Sept., 1970 and the  
Peyton Manning Citrus Bowl, calls me with a minute plus to go after we grab 
the  lead to tell me his heart can't take it.  And I, at age 52, am forced to  
agree.....
 
What can you say other than let's keep this up for 5 more games and run the  
table and show the country that we have a gutty, gritty wonderfully talented  
offense and a defense that at least is starting to make some plays (not a lot, 
 mind you).  BB for Heisman....
 
Paul Levinson
From HUDHAIFA3 at aol.com  Sat Oct 15 16:01:59 2005
From: HUDHAIFA3 at aol.com (HUDHAIFA3@aol.com)
Date: Sat Oct 15 16:03:16 2005
Subject: [NU Sports] Baz is the man
Message-ID: <7d.7373052e.3082c847@aol.com>

 
 

I remember Lenny Williams at Northwestern and thought he had a lot of  heart, 
well of course he did and he was a tough kid. Brett Basanez is unreal,  the 
composure after having so many drops today was unreal. He kept leading the  
team down the field. I was suspect of his arm, but running to his left and  
consistantly gunning the football to where it needed to be today was  incredible.  
 
Many PROPS to BRETT
 
Also was it only me or did it seem like the secondary was drilling the  
purdue receivers today, I dont remember our secondary hitting people like that  in 
a long time. Every time a receiver caught a ball they were getting hit  hard.
 
The defense was also very good today..
 
Wow I am only 26 and that is about the 14th heart attach the Cardiac Cats  
have given me.
I like the new way to seal a game thought with a interception
 
4-2 baby


From sjtruog at yahoo.com  Sat Oct 15 16:11:58 2005
From: sjtruog at yahoo.com (SjT (Stephen J. Truog))
Date: Sat Oct 15 16:13:06 2005
Subject: [NU Sports] Re: Baz is the man
In-Reply-To: <7d.7373052e.3082c847@aol.com>
Message-ID: <20051015211158.35606.qmail@web52911.mail.yahoo.com>

> well of course he did and he was a tough kid. Brett
> Basanez is unreal,  the 

Yup - any sputtering with the offense in the second
half was not Baz's fault. He placed the ball on the
money all day, even if being chased or rolling out
against his body. Wow! He willed us to a win despite a
tough day running the ball (I think it's because
Purdue knows our spread game all too well ... I hope
that's the reason).

> Also was it only me or did it seem like the
> secondary was drilling the  
> purdue receivers today, I dont remember our

It sure seemed like it. We aren't close to a dominant
D by any means, but I loved our attitude change today
from the first part of the season. We weren't going to
play it safe. If we give up a big play, so be it, but
we're hitting hard, hustling to try and make a play or
a tip, putting pressure and blitizing and just playing
aggressive defense. It paid off at the end with the
pick and four turnovers on the day.

> I like the new way to seal a game thought with a
> interception

Yeah - I could go for that every week. Big yardage?
Yes, but we also have been getting big turnovers from
the D lately.

> 4-2 baby

Exactly (and soooooo close to 5-1). No easy games
left, but we're in position to have a chance at the
postseason in mid October and that's where we've been
the last few years with Walker ... and where NU was
seldom at before that 1995 Rose Bowl team changed the
rules on football expectations and Evanston.

GO CATS!!!
-SjT


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From NEONRye at aol.com  Sat Oct 15 16:22:49 2005
From: NEONRye at aol.com (NEONRye@aol.com)
Date: Sat Oct 15 16:26:37 2005
Subject: [NU Sports] Next Weeks' BT TV Schedule
Message-ID: <201.c4b8297.3082cd29@aol.com>

A good test of how far we will have come in the eyes of the "powers that  be" 
will be how the TV assignments go next week.  Currently, the Big Ten  website 
lists the following schedule, with many games "TBA":
 
    10/22/2005 Michigan at Iowa  Iowa City, Iowa TBA 11:00 AM EDT   
10/22/2005 Northwestern at Michigan State  East Lansing, Mich. TBA 11:00 AM EDT   
10/22/2005 Ohio State at Indiana  Bloomington, Ind.  _ESPN  Plus_ 
(http://bigten.collegesports.com/sports/m-footbl/archive/101405aaa.html)  (inside Big Ten 
states)
TBA (outside Big Ten states)  11:00 AM EDT   10/22/2005 Purdue at Wisconsin  
Madison, Wis.  ABC Sports  11:00 AM EDT   10/22/2005 Penn State at Illinois  
Champaign, Ill.  ESPN or ESPN2  11:00 AM EDT 
 
 
Will we get a shot at MSU for either ESPN or "The Deuce", or will UM v.  IU?  
If Mich. beats JoePa, I think we get passed over, but if they lose,  perhaps 
Willie v. Sparty will be the pick.
 
Paul Levinson
From sjtruog at yahoo.com  Sat Oct 15 18:21:09 2005
From: sjtruog at yahoo.com (SjT (Stephen J. Truog))
Date: Sat Oct 15 18:22:18 2005
Subject: [NU Sports] Big Ten today ...
Message-ID: <20051015232109.17424.qmail@web52906.mail.yahoo.com>

Things certainly got even more interesting today ...

Pretty big :02 Lloyd Carr whined for on that final
drive, eh?

* Big win for Michigan - big loss for PSU. Still, it's
tough to see PSU losing the rest of the way, with a
game at Illinois, Purdue and Wisky visiting Happy
Valley and two weeks to prepare for the finale at MSU.
Folks here in Phoenix are already drooling about a
"Rose Bowl away from the Rose Bowl" with UCLA and PSU.

* Ohio State also looks in good position to run the
table ... or at least roll into Ann Arbor at the end
of the year at 8-2.

So now we'll see who's in a race to get those extra
BCS bids. Notre Dame might still sneak away with one
and the Big Least winner will absurdly get one --
leaving the Pac 10, Big Ten and SEC (maybe ACC too) in
a wild race for the 1 or 2 bids left. A 9-2 Ohio State
team in the top 10 would be tough to ignore because,
well, SOMEBODY's gotta sell tickets against the Big
Least champ.

But after those two, you still have 9 teams dreaming
of a Big Ten title and with bowl hopes ... even Purdue
could potentially sneak in to a bowl if they get on
track.

Wisconsin, Iowa, Michigan and MSU all look like pretty
solid bowl bets. NU, Minnesota and even Indiana have
decent shots at the six-win mark as well.

Gonna be one heck of a November! For now, PSU lost and
it's a whole new-game as we're in a big ole' log jam
at the top of the league with a team we beat, a team
we lost to and a couple others who are left on the
schedule.

GO CATS!!!
-SjT

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From sjtruog at yahoo.com  Sat Oct 15 18:43:10 2005
From: sjtruog at yahoo.com (SjT (Stephen J. Truog))
Date: Sat Oct 15 18:44:20 2005
Subject: [NU Sports] In the game where there are no winners ...
Message-ID: <20051015234310.88136.qmail@web52913.mail.yahoo.com>

... about the only thing close to SC and ND both
losing when they play each other (the impossible
dream:) ) is watching the Irish fans and team/coaches
THINK they've won and storm the field, only to
(correctly) be sent back to the sidelines and watch
their team lose on the next play.

Seems the holier-than-thou Domers aren't above
chanting "bull****" and will no doubt be crying all
week about the final seconds ... beautiful!:)
Hopefully they mope enough and slip again to open up
the BCS spot.

What a wild day of football finishes!

GO CATS!!!
-SjT

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From nolan at romaine.tssi.com  Sat Oct 15 18:55:52 2005
From: nolan at romaine.tssi.com (Mike Nolan)
Date: Sat Oct 15 18:55:56 2005
Subject: [NU Sports] ND was faked out of their jockstraps!
Message-ID: <200510152355.j9FNtqRQ019868@romaine.tssi.com>

First I got to thinking USC was the luckiest team in football, then I
looked at the tape again:  They faked ND out of their jockstraps with
the QB acting like he was going to spike the ball then going left
instead.  

Gutsy call, I wonder if it came from the bench, was a prepared play,
or just something the USC QB made up on the field?
--
Mike Nolan


From NEONRye at aol.com  Sat Oct 15 19:06:58 2005
From: NEONRye at aol.com (NEONRye@aol.com)
Date: Sat Oct 15 19:08:08 2005
Subject: [NU Sports] Big Ten today ...
Message-ID: <2b.7dc28036.3082f3a2@aol.com>

I spent the last quarter of the PSU-UM game trying to figure out for whom  to 
root (Have to get the grammar correct, so my NU education means  
something.)--although on a personal note Joe Pa is certainly more sympathetic to  me than 
Carr.  On the one hand, we are now closer to first place; on the  other, Mich. 
is now another team nipping at our heels.  If we can get by  MSU, the game in 
2 weeks will be very big indeed.
 
Paul Levinson
From Alan.Abrahamson at latimes.com  Sat Oct 15 19:47:50 2005
From: Alan.Abrahamson at latimes.com (Abrahamson, Alan)
Date: Sat Oct 15 19:55:33 2005
Subject: [NU Sports] Big Ten today ...
Message-ID: <6A0419188B49A54C960893D230C26807084AE505@goose.latimes.com>

 Absolutely all Wildcat fans should have been rooting for Michigan. Cats lost to Penn State; now that Penn State has lost, we need them to lose again and Cats to win out :>
 Oh, if it were only that simple!
 Great win by the Wildcats today. Nice to see the defense step it up -- very nice.
 Go Cats!
 Alan
 

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I spent the last quarter of the PSU-UM game trying to figure out for whom  to 
root (Have to get the grammar correct, so my NU education means  
something.)--although on a personal note Joe Pa is certainly more sympathetic to  me than 
Carr.  On the one hand, we are now closer to first place; on the  other, Mich. 
is now another team nipping at our heels.  If we can get by  MSU, the game in 
2 weeks will be very big indeed.
 
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From NEONRye at aol.com  Sat Oct 15 20:15:34 2005
From: NEONRye at aol.com (NEONRye@aol.com)
Date: Sat Oct 15 20:16:49 2005
Subject: [NU Sports] Big Ten today ...
Message-ID: <c.4f4cbb5a.308303b6@aol.com>

I agree with you, Alan; I guess I just needed someone to put it in print  for 
me.
 
Paul
From Hakirsch at aol.com  Sat Oct 15 20:33:15 2005
From: Hakirsch at aol.com (Hakirsch@aol.com)
Date: Sat Oct 15 20:34:47 2005
Subject: [NU Sports] Big Ten today ...
Message-ID: <64.5fa003f9.308307db@aol.com>

Of course if we are hoping for 2nd or 3rd place and figure we won't be first 
, then maybe a PSU win would have been better--

Since the Rose Bowl is the BCS championship game this year, I think all of 
the Big 10 bowl game move down one. So I think , (someone correct me here) that 
makes  the Citrus for the #1 finisher in the conference, Outback as #2 --( I 
know not always when we got jobbed in 2000)


Harry Kirsch
From nolan at romaine.tssi.com  Sat Oct 15 20:51:28 2005
From: nolan at romaine.tssi.com (Mike Nolan)
Date: Sat Oct 15 20:51:35 2005
Subject: [NU Sports] Big Ten today ...
In-Reply-To: <64.5fa003f9.308307db@aol.com> from "Hakirsch@aol.com" at Oct 15,
	2005 09:33:15 PM
Message-ID: <200510160151.j9G1pS2b020768@romaine.tssi.com>

> Since the Rose Bowl is the BCS championship game this year, I think all of 
> the Big 10 bowl game move down one. So I think , (someone correct me here) that 
> makes  the Citrus for the #1 finisher in the conference, Outback as #2 --( I 
> know not always when we got jobbed in 2000)

No, the Big 10 Champion will be in a BCS bowl as will the champions of 
the other BCS conferences.  
--
Mike Nolan

From Alan.Abrahamson at latimes.com  Sat Oct 15 20:48:46 2005
From: Alan.Abrahamson at latimes.com (Abrahamson, Alan)
Date: Sat Oct 15 20:56:47 2005
Subject: [NU Sports] Big Ten today ...
Message-ID: <6A0419188B49A54C960893D230C26807084AE50A@goose.latimes.com>

Why should the aim be for anything but first?
 If this team gets any defense it will be tough to beat. 
 Because this team can and will score. 
 The ongoing question is whether a defense that is statistically abysmal - but seemed today to make real strides, albeit against a lesser opponent - is up to the task. 
 I hope so. 
 - Alan



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Of course if we are hoping for 2nd or 3rd place and figure we won't be first , then maybe a PSU win would have been better--

Since the Rose Bowl is the BCS championship game this year, I think all of the Big 10 bowl game move down one. So I think , (someone correct me here) that makes  the Citrus for the #1 finisher in the conference, Outback as #2 --( I know not always when we got jobbed in 2000)


Harry Kirsch

From johnl at mac.com  Sat Oct 15 22:45:54 2005
From: johnl at mac.com (John Labbe)
Date: Sat Oct 15 22:46:06 2005
Subject: [NU Sports] Third Quarter & Wind
Message-ID: <f4b201a39e5ca04194e44d798b25e597@mac.com>

The wind played a big factor in the third quarter today.  At the 
beginning of the second half, Purdue got the ball so we got to choose 
which endzone to defend first.  I would have chosen to have the wind at 
our backs for the third quarter, but we chose the more conventional 
approach so we had the wind at our backs in the fourth quarter.

This meant that our opening kickoff was into the win, and it was 
returned for a TD.  True, we still should have stopped that guy, but 
had we been kicking into the wind, the ball would have been out of the 
endzone.  Then, later, we were punting into the wind multiple times, 
which ultimately set Purdue up at our 7 yard line after a big punt 
return.  So Purdue was able to score 14 on 7 yards of offense, thanks 
in large part to the wind (and breakdown on our special teams coverage 
(they took forever to get down there on that punt)).

I would have taken the wind in the third quarter to keep the momentum 
and build on the lead, and hopefully have the game out of reach by the 
fourth quarter.

From cherron604 at aol.com  Sat Oct 15 23:25:11 2005
From: cherron604 at aol.com (cherron604@aol.com)
Date: Sat Oct 15 23:26:39 2005
Subject: [NU Sports] Back from the Cow Pasture
Message-ID: <8C7A020BBA258B2-1280-44EF@FWM-R44.sysops.aol.com>

Some quick observations after the pleasant trip to Lafayette:
 
- The playing surface at Ross-Ade was an embarrassment.  There are Chicago Public League fields in far better shape.  Divots, ruts, bare dirt, feeble grass - I have not seen a field in such awful condition since the Bears Soldier field a few years back - and that was after a Rolling Stones concert in a downpour.  Purdue should be ashamed of hosting a game on such a miserable surface.
 
- Ross-Ade remains a place of mixed feelings - the new pressbox is impressive, but almost overpowering.  And I miss the old block letters PURDUE in the North end-zone.  The bigger down-side is probably the Purdue fans - despite the programs limited success (certainly between the Agase and Tiller eras), the fans, with their cutesy 'synchronized' chants and cheers, the silly cheerleading PA announcer, and the inane steam whistle are a pretty annoying bunch.  I must say, however, that everyone in the parking lots was very polite, they only seem to get cloying when they are in a group, chanting en-masse.
 
- I love the victories, and BB and TS are special talents, but this defense is maddening.  I know they hit some people harder today, and ball-hawked better on some interceptions, but remember that in the past three weeks:
 
   - we blew a 16 point lead just before the half to Penn State.  Part of this mess (that I hadn't seen mentioned previously) was that, with that 16 point lead, and the clock running, the Cats faced a 4th down pretty deep in their end of the field.  With under two minutes remaining in the half (and the clock RUNNING), RW punted the ball with 23 seconds showing on the play clock.  Couldn't he have waited til 5 or 6 seconds remained ?  As it was, Penn State scored just before the half, and the collapse had begun.
 
   - we almost blew a 17 point lead with something like 4 minutes remaining in the game against the Badgers.  No defense should ever do that.
 
  - Today we succeeded in blowing an 18 point half-time lead (topped off by a 98 yard TD drive) before recovering with the late touchdown to win.
 
It would be very interesting to see if any other program had blown (or nearly blown) three double-digit leads in as many weeks.  It would be different if this were a one-time glitch, an unexpected bad stretch that the program hadn't experienced previously.  Unfortunately, it is just a continuation of the trend of RW defenses - frequently in the bottom 5 or ten defenses nationally.
 
No program that aspires to be of championship caliber can countenance such regular disarray and chaos in their defense.  While it might make for exciting games, cardiac finishes and and the like, it is a sign of a definite weakness in the program.
 
In fact, a cynic might argue that the large double digit leads are an indicator that the skilled positions - the talent on the field that some keep telling us can't possibly compare with the talent that our conference mates can recruit - are as good as or better than their conference opponents, while the double digit collapses point to great weaknesses in coaching and managing the leads in those ballgames.
 
Let's hope RW can right the ship heading into Lansing next week - or maybe we can try blowing a 20- or 21-point lead ?
 
Chuck Herron   Tech '85
 
 
From r.beckwith at sbcglobal.net  Sun Oct 16 00:01:27 2005
From: r.beckwith at sbcglobal.net (Roger Beckwith)
Date: Sun Oct 16 00:03:15 2005
Subject: [NU Sports] ND was faked out of their jockstraps!
In-Reply-To: <200510152355.j9FNtqRQ019868@romaine.tssi.com>
Message-ID: <000001c5d20e$bc84ebd0$210110ac@DELL>

Pete Carroll on ESPN after the game said that he wanted Leinhart to go for
the TD and gave him the signal to make his own decision.  He then made the
signal to spike the ball when Leinhart was not looking at him just to try to
fake out ND.  It worked - that and Bush's push.  What a great way for ND to
lose.

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From: nwu-sports-bounces@tssi.com [mailto:nwu-sports-bounces@tssi.com] On
Behalf Of Mike Nolan
Sent: Saturday, October 15, 2005 6:56 PM
To: nwu-sports@romaine.tssi.com
Subject: [NU Sports] ND was faked out of their jockstraps!

First I got to thinking USC was the luckiest team in football, then I
looked at the tape again:  They faked ND out of their jockstraps with
the QB acting like he was going to spike the ball then going left
instead.  

Gutsy call, I wonder if it came from the bench, was a prepared play,
or just something the USC QB made up on the field?
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From r.beckwith at sbcglobal.net  Sun Oct 16 00:01:58 2005
From: r.beckwith at sbcglobal.net (Roger Beckwith)
Date: Sun Oct 16 00:03:23 2005
Subject: [NU Sports] ND was faked out of their jockstraps!
In-Reply-To: <200510152355.j9FNtqRQ019868@romaine.tssi.com>
Message-ID: <000101c5d20e$bfcbd970$210110ac@DELL>

Pete Carroll on ESPN after the game said that he wanted Leinhart to go for
the TD and gave him the signal to make his own decision.  He then made the
signal to spike the ball when Leinhart was not looking at him just to try to
fake out ND.  It worked - that and Bush's push.  What a great way for ND to
lose.

-----Original Message-----
From: nwu-sports-bounces@tssi.com [mailto:nwu-sports-bounces@tssi.com] On
Behalf Of Mike Nolan
Sent: Saturday, October 15, 2005 6:56 PM
To: nwu-sports@romaine.tssi.com
Subject: [NU Sports] ND was faked out of their jockstraps!

First I got to thinking USC was the luckiest team in football, then I
looked at the tape again:  They faked ND out of their jockstraps with
the QB acting like he was going to spike the ball then going left
instead.  

Gutsy call, I wonder if it came from the bench, was a prepared play,
or just something the USC QB made up on the field?
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From sjtruog at yahoo.com  Sun Oct 16 00:37:29 2005
From: sjtruog at yahoo.com (SjT (Stephen J. Truog))
Date: Sun Oct 16 00:38:37 2005
Subject: [NU Sports] Back from the Cow Pasture
In-Reply-To: <8C7A020BBA258B2-1280-44EF@FWM-R44.sysops.aol.com>
Message-ID: <20051016053729.14755.qmail@web52911.mail.yahoo.com>

> the Purdue fans - despite the programs limited
> success (certainly between the Agase and Tiller
> eras), the fans, with their cutesy 'synchronized'
> chants and cheers, the silly cheerleading PA
> announcer, and the inane steam whistle are a pretty
> annoying bunch.  I must say, however, that everyone

I actually kinda like that -- kinda like the KSU fans
in the Big XII. Hokey? Yeah. But you can't leave West
Lafayette and not hear two toots of a whistle and
instinctively yell "Boiler up!" :) And now that I've
moved from NW Indiana, I haven't heard a train whistle
in ages.

> - I love the victories, and BB and TS are special
> talents, but this defense is maddening.  I know they
> hit some people harder today, and ball-hawked better
> on some interceptions, but remember that in the past
> three weeks:

I won't try and defend the D for the Wisconsin game,
but I will defend them vs. PSU and especially today.
Against PSU and Purdue, the D succeeded in creating
turnovers and in setting up the offense to score and
put the game away many times. Agsinst the Nits, we
settled for FGs and didn't go for the end zone.
Against Purdue, we never got the ground game going and
again disappeared after halftime on offense.

Look at the league games and find out how many 29 will
win you this year in the Big Ten. The offense has to
continue to be aggressive and can't rest on its
laurels after scoring 28 in the first half. Thankfully
we awoke in time today to save it (and remember, the
Boilers got back in it on a kickoff return and a punt
return to the 5 - not the D's fault).

Would I love to have a shutdown D that pitches
shutouts and never lets the opponent cross midfield?
Of course. But those are few and far between
(especially this year -- look around the nation and
see how offenses have again leapt ahead of defenses).
I'll settle for a hustling, aggressive D that forces
turnovers (and has gotten two to end games the last
two weeks) and hope that the offense manages to keep
that same aggressiveness and awesomeness throughout
the game and doesn't get complacent with a lead.

I wouldn't expect much defense next week in East
Lansing either. MSU's pass D may be as poor as
Wisconsin's ... hopefully Baz is on early and often
and we continue to spread the field vertically and
horizontally to keep scoring with Sparty.

GO CATS!!!
-SjT

* * * * * * * * *
STEPHEN J. TRUOG
sjtruog@yahoo.com
GO CATS!!!


		
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From bwdolphin146 at yahoo.com  Sun Oct 16 04:40:35 2005
From: bwdolphin146 at yahoo.com (Brad Wilson)
Date: Sun Oct 16 04:41:48 2005
Subject: [NU Sports] actually, alan
Message-ID: <20051016094035.69287.qmail@web51306.mail.yahoo.com>

.., it IS that simple ... win the rest and NU wins the
Big 10,or at least a share, and I'll gladly take the
share. Gladly!!!

Look, quite honestly: did Michigan scare you Saturday?
They did not scare me. (I am glad they won -- though I
generally like to see PSU do well -- because now NU is
tied for first in the Big 10. Tied for first! Did
anybody think, after ASU, this would be the case?
[Yes, I know, NU is one play away from BEING in first
all by ourselves. Spilled milk, etc.])

Did Michigan State scare you? Did Iowa -- ahead of
Indiana by just 24-21 AT HOME late -- scare you?
Frankly, did Ohio State? (I suspect NU can count to
11, unlike Sparty.) Illinois? Get serious. I agree
with Paul -- why not a Big Ten title?

As flawed as this NU team is -- and it is, we all know
that -- these kids are two wins from a bowl and five
wins from a Big Ten title. Crack down on special
teams, cover a little better ... ah, let's dream for a
while.

bw




  

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From bwdolphin146 at yahoo.com  Sun Oct 16 04:45:02 2005
From: bwdolphin146 at yahoo.com (Brad Wilson)
Date: Sun Oct 16 04:46:08 2005
Subject: [NU Sports] fellow white sox fans....
Message-ID: <20051016094502.52088.qmail@web51314.mail.yahoo.com>

And there have to be some of you on this list ... do
October Saturdays get any better than an huge NU win
in the afternoon followed by the White Sox winning an
ALCS game at night?

Well, not much better -- except NEXT Saturday, when
the Wildcats hammer Michigan State and the Sox win
Game 1 of the World Series.

And the Saturday following ... when NU smacks Michigan
under the lights to clinch a bowl bid and the Sox win
the series (or already have won it). 

Nirvana, baby. 

bw





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From bwdolphin146 at yahoo.com  Sun Oct 16 05:02:02 2005
From: bwdolphin146 at yahoo.com (Brad Wilson)
Date: Sun Oct 16 05:03:08 2005
Subject: [NU Sports] what a day
Message-ID: <20051016100202.55252.qmail@web51314.mail.yahoo.com>

Can there be, after 15 Oct., any doubt that college
football is the best game there is?

Today, in multiple stadiums -- in South Bend, Ann
Arbor, West Lafayette (YAY!), Columbus, Minneapolis,
Oxford, Morgantown, Pullman, Baton Rouge,
Charlottesville, Columbia, Berkeley and more -- there
were thrilling finishes and epic endings. 

Couch potatoes who saw (for example) the endings in
Minneapolis, West Lafayette, Ann Arbor, South Bend and
Charlottesville (as I did) -- can it get any better? I
wonder.

This may have been the best CFB single day I can
remember in 35 years of loving this game.

And the White Sox won to move within a game of the
Series, too.

What a day!

bw

   

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From DPENDERG at aol.com  Sun Oct 16 06:21:49 2005
From: DPENDERG at aol.com (DPENDERG@aol.com)
Date: Sun Oct 16 06:25:44 2005
Subject: [NU Sports] actually, alan
Message-ID: <e1.1e1fae73.308391cd@aol.com>

 
No one enjoyed the thrilling victory over the Boilers more than I,  
especially the defense's big plays when needed.  At the same time, let's  stare reality 
in the face. Purdue -- with the WORST quarterback the Cats will  face this 
season -- still rolled up 40-65 completions and 378 yards this  season.  Stanton 
and Michigan State will present a much more intimidating  offense than did 
the Boilers. So, the defense's improvement ("only" 505 total  yards yielded) 
will have to continue or we could just as easily lose every  remaining game on 
our schedule except Illinois.  We cannot count on the  offense always rescuing 
us after the weekly defensive meltdowns.  
 
In a message dated 10/16/2005 5:43:47 A.M. Eastern Standard Time,  
bwdolphin146@yahoo.com writes:

.., it  IS that simple ... win the rest and NU wins the
Big 10,or at least a share,  and I'll gladly take the
share. Gladly!!!

Look, quite honestly: did  Michigan scare you Saturday?
They did not scare me. (I am glad they won --  though I
generally like to see PSU do well -- because now NU is
tied for  first in the Big 10. Tied for first! Did
anybody think, after ASU, this  would be the case?
[Yes, I know, NU is one play away from BEING in  first
all by ourselves. Spilled milk, etc.])

Did Michigan State  scare you? Did Iowa -- ahead of
Indiana by just 24-21 AT HOME late -- scare  you?
Frankly, did Ohio State? (I suspect NU can count to
11, unlike  Sparty.) Illinois? Get serious. I agree
with Paul -- why not a Big Ten  title?

As flawed as this NU team is -- and it is, we all know
that  -- these kids are two wins from a bowl and five
wins from a Big Ten title.  Crack down on special
teams, cover a little better ... ah, let's dream for  a
while.

bw






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From jmccull at insight.rr.com  Sun Oct 16 07:44:55 2005
From: jmccull at insight.rr.com (J.R. McCullough)
Date: Sun Oct 16 07:45:15 2005
Subject: [NU Sports] Baz's maturity
Message-ID: <001801c5d24f$6971eb50$6601a8c0@jroffice01>

I noticed something in yesterday's victory that indicates just why our offense is such a juggernaut. Forgive me if this is very elementary analysis. 

Baz is reading defenses prior to the snap better than ever, and is also checking down to his third or fourth option on most pass plays. He looks like a pro quarterback out there. His head is on a swivel out there as he reads the whole field. Add to this the protection the O-line is giving him, and it's no wonder why he can't be stopped. 

Why is he so much better this year? I'm sure it has a lot to do with experience and maturity. However, he also graduated in August. He's probably not carrying more than one or two graduate-level courses now. That leaves him plenty of time to study game film. 

I'm sure there are QBs with better arm strength out there, but I wouldn't trade Baz for anyone in the country right now.
From jmccull at insight.rr.com  Sun Oct 16 08:10:42 2005
From: jmccull at insight.rr.com (J.R. McCullough)
Date: Sun Oct 16 08:11:03 2005
Subject: [NU Sports] Next week -- stat breakdown
Message-ID: <001f01c5d253$036e0e70$6601a8c0@jroffice01>

In looking at the MSU vs. NU stat breakdown on bigten.org, I see some things to give us confidence. 

* MSU is last in the conference in sacks allowed 
* MSU is last in the conference in FGs
* MSU is 9th in the conference in pass defense (we're 10th)

Looks like it's going to be a scoring fest again through the air next week. 

Things that concern me. 

* MSU is third in the conference in rush defense. We're 10th (ouch)

They also seem to have two legitimate running backs. 

We might be able to steal one up there if we get some turnovers, keep the pedal down on offense, and contain their running attack. Also, if it comes down to special teams, I think we have the edge.
From Hakirsch at aol.com  Sun Oct 16 08:35:19 2005
From: Hakirsch at aol.com (Hakirsch@aol.com)
Date: Sun Oct 16 08:54:13 2005
Subject: [NU Sports] what a day
Message-ID: <19d.3e9ecafa.3083b117@aol.com>

In a message dated 10/16/2005 3:03:49 AM Pacific Daylight Time, 
bwdolphin146@yahoo.com writes:

> Can there be, after 15 Oct., any doubt that college
> football is the best game there is?
> 

It certainly beats the pros--funny that most of my friends are big sports 
fans, but those that didn't go to a big time college, could care less about 
college football--

Harry
From Alan.Abrahamson at latimes.com  Sun Oct 16 10:34:36 2005
From: Alan.Abrahamson at latimes.com (Abrahamson, Alan)
Date: Sun Oct 16 10:42:41 2005
Subject: [NU Sports] actually, alan
Message-ID: <6A0419188B49A54C960893D230C26807084AE50D@goose.latimes.com>

 Couldn't agree more about the defense ...
 Slightly different topic, if everyone will permit me to make an observation about the Wildcat offense.
 It was great to see the Wildcats throwing on first down. As explosive as the NU offense is, the run-first, pass-second thing had become predictable.
 Will be interesting to see whether this reflects a maturation of the Cat offensive scheme and personalities, or whether it was a one-game variation owing to some weakness the Wildcat coaches saw in the Purdue defense.
 Also, I would love the Wildcats to come out early and throw deep. I mean, Raider-style deep. When was the last time any of us saw anything like that? Just a little something to say a pleasant good afternoon and offer a warm welcome to the opposing defense.
 Five more in a row ... ! Go defense!
 

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Sent: Sunday, October 16, 2005 4:22 AM
To: nwu-sports@tssi.com
Subject: Re: [NU Sports] actually, alan


 
No one enjoyed the thrilling victory over the Boilers more than I,  
especially the defense's big plays when needed.  At the same time, let's  stare reality 
in the face. Purdue -- with the WORST quarterback the Cats will  face this 
season -- still rolled up 40-65 completions and 378 yards this  season.  Stanton 
and Michigan State will present a much more intimidating  offense than did 
the Boilers. So, the defense's improvement ("only" 505 total  yards yielded) 
will have to continue or we could just as easily lose every  remaining game on 
our schedule except Illinois.  We cannot count on the  offense always rescuing 
us after the weekly defensive meltdowns.  
 
In a message dated 10/16/2005 5:43:47 A.M. Eastern Standard Time,  
bwdolphin146@yahoo.com writes:

.., it  IS that simple ... win the rest and NU wins the
Big 10,or at least a share,  and I'll gladly take the
share. Gladly!!!

Look, quite honestly: did  Michigan scare you Saturday?
They did not scare me. (I am glad they won --  though I
generally like to see PSU do well -- because now NU is
tied for  first in the Big 10. Tied for first! Did
anybody think, after ASU, this  would be the case?
[Yes, I know, NU is one play away from BEING in  first
all by ourselves. Spilled milk, etc.])

Did Michigan State  scare you? Did Iowa -- ahead of
Indiana by just 24-21 AT HOME late -- scare  you?
Frankly, did Ohio State? (I suspect NU can count to
11, unlike  Sparty.) Illinois? Get serious. I agree
with Paul -- why not a Big Ten  title?

As flawed as this NU team is -- and it is, we all know
that  -- these kids are two wins from a bowl and five
wins from a Big Ten title.  Crack down on special
teams, cover a little better ... ah, let's dream for  a
while.

bw






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From tkmaycock at yahoo.com  Sun Oct 16 11:04:04 2005
From: tkmaycock at yahoo.com (Tom Maycock)
Date: Sun Oct 16 11:05:12 2005
Subject: [NU Sports] actually, alan
In-Reply-To: <6A0419188B49A54C960893D230C26807084AE50D@goose.latimes.com>
Message-ID: <20051016160404.19099.qmail@web33114.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

Enjoyed the comments from everyone--and I have to agree it was a great
day of college football yesterday.

Some random thoughts:

* Baz has matured wonderfully, and is really playing at a very, very
high level right now. He's always had tools, but now has more accuracy,
great zip and the ball, and is truly seeing the whole field. 

Kudos to the O-line for giving him the time to do that. I think we all
feared a weakness there, and they have turned out to be a strength. Are
they ready for an Ohio State caliber defense? Maybe--we'll see.

* The defense--well, they're still pretty bad. But I have to say, they
are busting their butts on every single play. And they do seem to be
getting better, albeit slowly. To some extent, that's all we can ask,
although I'm getting sore from slapping myself in the forehead after
every converted 3rd down. :-)

>  It was great to see the Wildcats throwing on first down. As
> explosive as the NU offense is, the run-first, pass-second thing had
> become predictable.

I think this was mostly a matter of a perceived weakness in the Purdue
D--they definitely looked stronger against the run and very vulnerable
to the pass.

The exciting thing about that, is that we have so many weapons and ways
of using them that we can attack whatever the perceived weakness may
be. You have to love a team that can rely heavily on the run, heavily
on the pass, or run a balance of the two depending on the situation.

Huge tip o' the hat to Dunbar--I've loved watching the play calls all
year. Power running, 'inside' option, 'outside' option, screen passes,
deep balls, and on and on. 

Also, some GREAT calls in cases in crucial 3rd down situations--they've
regularly called pass plays that pop a receiver open just far enough
downfield to get the first down (kind of the anti-John Shoop approach).

No illusions here--this team could easily have just 1 win, or just 1
loss, so we're fortunate to be where we are. But it's been a hell of a
lot of fun to watch!

Tom

From MHRJGScott at aol.com  Sun Oct 16 12:02:10 2005
From: MHRJGScott at aol.com (MHRJGScott@aol.com)
Date: Sun Oct 16 12:06:09 2005
Subject: [NU Sports] Big Ten today ...
Message-ID: <19a.3eaa7995.3083e192@aol.com>

Enjoyed reading all the comments. My top 3:
1) After the loss to Penn State some of our dear listers thought we would  
lose all our tough BT games.  Repent!
2)  Seeing ND lose the way they did warms my heart.
3)  Baz is the best NU QB in the modern era, we are going bowling, if  not 
BCS, weather is great in Orlando.
From prplehaze at insightbb.com  Sun Oct 16 12:57:46 2005
From: prplehaze at insightbb.com (Mark S. Ament)
Date: Sun Oct 16 12:58:42 2005
Subject: [NU Sports] Next Weeks' BT TV Schedule
In-Reply-To: <201.c4b8297.3082cd29@aol.com>
References: <201.c4b8297.3082cd29@aol.com>
Message-ID: <4352949A.5050801@insightbb.com>

NEONRye@aol.com wrote:

>A good test of how far we will have come in the eyes of the "powers that  be" 
>will be how the TV assignments go next week.  Currently, the Big Ten  website 
>lists the following schedule, with many games "TBA":
> 
>    10/22/2005 Michigan at Iowa  Iowa City, Iowa TBA 11:00 AM EDT   
>10/22/2005 Northwestern at Michigan State  East Lansing, Mich. TBA 11:00 AM EDT   
>10/22/2005 Ohio State at Indiana  Bloomington, Ind.  _ESPN  Plus_ 
>(http://bigten.collegesports.com/sports/m-footbl/archive/101405aaa.html)  (inside Big Ten 
>states)
>TBA (outside Big Ten states)  11:00 AM EDT   10/22/2005 Purdue at Wisconsin  
>Madison, Wis.  ABC Sports  11:00 AM EDT   10/22/2005 Penn State at Illinois  
>Champaign, Ill.  ESPN or ESPN2  11:00 AM EDT 
> 
> 
>Will we get a shot at MSU for either ESPN or "The Deuce", or will UM v.  IU?  
>If Mich. beats JoePa, I think we get passed over, but if they lose,  perhaps 
>Willie v. Sparty will be the pick.
> 
>Paul Levinson
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>  
>
I thought I saw on the crawl last night that next week's game has been 
picked up by ABC.  Now, this was during overtime of the Louisville game 
so I wasn't in complete control of my faculties at the time so don't 
hold me to that.

-- 
Mark

Mark S. Ament
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From johnl at mac.com  Sun Oct 16 13:51:28 2005
From: johnl at mac.com (John Labbe)
Date: Sun Oct 16 13:51:39 2005
Subject: [NU Sports] Next week -- stat breakdown
In-Reply-To: <001f01c5d253$036e0e70$6601a8c0@jroffice01>
References: <001f01c5d253$036e0e70$6601a8c0@jroffice01>
Message-ID: <3ff29e3e2c9c9f5a274db9f41c42d86c@mac.com>

Special teams?  Did you see our special teams give up 1 touchdown 
(kickoff return) and nearly another yesterday (punt return to the 7, 
which led to a TD),  not to mention our short punting and missed field 
goals.  True, there were some wind conditions that contributed heavily 
yesterday, but the fact of the matter is that somehow or D, despite 
giving up lots of yards, really only yielded two TDs.  Special teams 
yielded the other 2.  (Even the best D is going to give up a TD from 
time to time when you spot them the ball on the 7, so I'm not counting 
that one.)




>
> We might be able to steal one up there if we get some turnovers, keep 
> the pedal down on offense, and contain their running attack. Also, if 
> it comes down to special teams, I think we have the edge.
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From johnl at mac.com  Sun Oct 16 13:59:44 2005
From: johnl at mac.com (John Labbe)
Date: Sun Oct 16 13:59:53 2005
Subject: [NU Sports] Back from the Cow Pasture
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I definitely agree with you that Ross-Ade is an annoying place for a 
visiting fan.  I think the fans are polite enough, etc.  In fact, 
numerous people were congratulating us on the way out, and not just the 
drunk guy.

But the problem is that the fans are annoying with their cheers and 
that darn drum booming all the time, not to mention the train whistle.  
Every first down, the announcer calls the first down, then the band 
plays a little tune, then everyone shouts "1, 2, 3, 4, FIRST DOWN" 
while the drum booms along with the chant.  It's a lot better though to 
be on the winning side.  Most of the noise was kept down during the 
first half while we kept a big lead.  But the second half got bad 
again.

I was also shocked by the fact that the fans at Ross-Ade repeatedly 
booed their own team.  They weren't just booing calls, like whether to 
go for it on 4th down, and things like that, but they were booing the 
quarterback, booing the kicker, etc.  I know some devoted football fans 
who tend to hold their teams to high standards, but I've never known 
them to express their frustration by actually booing their own team.

> - Ross-Ade remains a place of mixed feelings - the new pressbox is 
> impressive, but almost overpowering.  And I miss the old block letters 
> PURDUE in the North end-zone.  The bigger down-side is probably the 
> Purdue fans - despite the programs limited success (certainly between 
> the Agase and Tiller eras), the fans, with their cutesy 'synchronized' 
> chants and cheers, the silly cheerleading PA announcer, and the inane 
> steam whistle are a pretty annoying bunch.  I must say, however, that 
> everyone in the parking lots was very polite, they only seem to get 
> cloying when they are in a group, chanting en-masse.
>

From NEONRye at aol.com  Sun Oct 16 14:49:31 2005
From: NEONRye at aol.com (NEONRye@aol.com)
Date: Sun Oct 16 14:50:59 2005
Subject: [NU Sports] Big Ten today ...
Message-ID: <f.4f52e473.308408cb@aol.com>

I favor the weather in Tampa myself.  Take a look at Bucs game on TV  today.  
Nice stadium, too.
 
Paul Levinson
From jonathanwhodges at gmail.com  Sun Oct 16 14:51:30 2005
From: jonathanwhodges at gmail.com (Jonathan Hodges)
Date: Sun Oct 16 14:52:32 2005
Subject: [NU Sports] Let the Bowl Speculations Begin
Message-ID: <fcb3ee270510161251nac3729dve77b629883a72cc3@mail.gmail.com>

CFN has us slated for the Peach Bowl in Atlanta (CFN also has us
ranked at 22 on their list, we are still not ranked in either the
Coaches or AP poll):

http://www.collegefootballnews.com/2005/Bowls/Bowl_Projections.htm

This is extremely premature, as we need to pick up those 2 more wins
(see last season when we had the Music City Bowl "locked up" before
the Hawaii debacle), but it is encouraging.  With the way Big Ten play
has gone thus far this season, nobody knows where we'll end up in the
pack - and as Coach Walker said, we are tied with 4 other teams with
only one conference loss right now.

Go 'Cats!!!

--
Jonathan W. Hodges
829 Foster St. Apt. 401
Evanston, IL  60201-3259
(847) 736-2449
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From tbng at suscom.net  Sun Oct 16 14:53:20 2005
From: tbng at suscom.net (Dennis W. Brandt)
Date: Sun Oct 16 14:54:01 2005
Subject: [NU Sports] Back from the Cow Pasture
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<I know some devoted football fans 
who tend to hold their teams to high standards, but I've never known 
them to express their frustration by actually booing their own team.>

Haven't spent a lot of time in Philadelphia.  Have you?

From sjtruog at yahoo.com  Sun Oct 16 15:02:42 2005
From: sjtruog at yahoo.com (SjT (Stephen J. Truog))
Date: Sun Oct 16 15:03:51 2005
Subject: [NU Sports] Big Ten today ...
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> I favor the weather in Tampa myself.  Take a look at
> Bucs game on TV  today.  
> Nice stadium, too.

Nah - I've become a big believer in the desert
southwest myself after a few months here. Perfect
weather - all the sun of Florida without that yucky
humidity. None of those pesky bugs, gnats, mosquitoes,
etc. flying around either.

So with the Perfection of Pasadena out of the picture,
let's go for the Fiesta Bowl!:)

And next year, the Insight Bowl will bring a Big Ten
team to the Valley of the Sun as well ... a nice step
up from El Paso, IMO.

But seriously ... it's fun to look ahead, but it's
tough to see PSU and OSU losing the rest of the way,
so let's just take our games one at a time and get the
win at MSU to move closer to bowl eligibility --
anywhere would be great, and winning a bowl -- any
bowl -- would be even better.

GO CATS!!!
-SjT

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From sjtruog at yahoo.com  Sun Oct 16 14:56:57 2005
From: sjtruog at yahoo.com (SjT (Stephen J. Truog))
Date: Sun Oct 16 15:04:46 2005
Subject: [NU Sports] Back from the Cow Pasture
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> But the problem is that the fans are annoying with
> their cheers and 
> that darn drum booming all the time, not to mention
> the train whistle.  

Now see, I love that. I love it when home fans create
a unique home atmosphere and cheer on their team. You
have a train whistle ... the roar of the train chug
(drum) ... all that stuff is great, IMO. Just like the
Nittany Lion roar. Some fans get annoyed - I love it.

I do see how it can tend to get annoying when done
every friggin play, like the USC band's 3-note tune,
but I wish NU had more of that zest and cheer from
their fans.

Wisconsin fans may be rude, crude and obnoxious ...
but I always say that no fans wear their team colors
more, clap in unison better (it's thunderous when
their band comes out pregame and the crowd claps in
unison) and create an intimidating home field
advantage as much as Badger fans. About the only thing
I like about when the sea of red comes to invade
Evanston every few years is that it usually spurs NU
fans to cheer a little more and we could certainly do
that more often (STAND UP ON THIRD DOWN!!!!!!! Bring
back the PURPLE mountain majesty and America the
Beautiful for pregame! CLAP AND STAND for Go U! etc.).

And I think NU has the best game announcer in the biz
(and best band announcer in the biz) -- so what if
it's cheering for the home team? I love hearing "FIRST
AND GOOOOOOOAAAAAAALLLLLL Northwestern!" boom from the
speakers!

> I was also shocked by the fact that the fans at
> Ross-Ade repeatedly 
> booed their own team.  They weren't just booing

Now that I won't defend. Boo coaches, boo bad calls
but there's never a good enough reason, IMO, to boo
college student athletes who are working their butts
off to give us the world's greatest sport every
Saturday in the fall. They're still not pros and
mistakes will happen - no reason to boo.

GO CATS!!!
-SjT

* * * * * * * * *
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From MHRJGScott at aol.com  Sun Oct 16 15:36:18 2005
From: MHRJGScott at aol.com (MHRJGScott@aol.com)
Date: Sun Oct 16 15:40:13 2005
Subject: [NU Sports] Big Ten today ...
Message-ID: <d.4eb228b5.308413c2@aol.com>

     
Tampa has the same weather as  here. We have a better bowl and mice for the 
children. 38% is not  humid.
 
 
Current Conditions

Clear
83?     Heat index: 82?  Wind: Variable 7 mph  Dewpoint: 55?  Humidity: 38%  
Visibility: 10.0 miles  Barometer: 29.89  in
From BSchooler at aol.com  Sun Oct 16 16:41:55 2005
From: BSchooler at aol.com (BSchooler@aol.com)
Date: Sun Oct 16 16:43:12 2005
Subject: [NU Sports] Back from the Cow Pasture
Message-ID: <148.4eb1d31d.30842323@aol.com>

In a message dated 10/16/2005 3:13:45 PM Central Daylight Time, 
sjtruog@yahoo.com writes:

> And I think NU has the best game announcer in the biz
> (and best band announcer in the biz) -- so what if
> it's cheering for the home team? I love hearing "FIRST
> AND GOOOOOOOAAAAAAALLLLLL Northwestern!" boom from the
> speakers!
> 
> 

As I posted a few years ago, my girlfriend, a Texas Tech graduate, attended 
the Wisconsin win two years ago and found it interesting that the Northwestern 
fans cheered the PA announcer's call of the first down more than the actual 
first down play.

Bob Schooler 
From spiritu at northwestern.edu  Sun Oct 16 19:17:56 2005
From: spiritu at northwestern.edu (Jonathan Michael Hawkins)
Date: Sun Oct 16 19:19:12 2005
Subject: [NU Sports] Back from the Cow Pasture
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That is pretty odd, actually.  We liked the Purdue first down cheer so 
much on Saturday that we incorporated it into our own "from-the-stands" 
first-and-ten call.  They weren't counting 1-2-3-4, though, except when 
they converted 4th down.  They counted the downs it took, which I thought 
was pretty cool.

Who knows, we might keep it.

Jonathan

On Sun, 16 Oct 2005, BSchooler@aol.com wrote:

> In a message dated 10/16/2005 3:13:45 PM Central Daylight Time,
> sjtruog@yahoo.com writes:
>
>> And I think NU has the best game announcer in the biz
>> (and best band announcer in the biz) -- so what if
>> it's cheering for the home team? I love hearing "FIRST
>> AND GOOOOOOOAAAAAAALLLLLL Northwestern!" boom from the
>> speakers!
>>
>>
>
> As I posted a few years ago, my girlfriend, a Texas Tech graduate, attended
> the Wisconsin win two years ago and found it interesting that the Northwestern
> fans cheered the PA announcer's call of the first down more than the actual
> first down play.
>
> Bob Schooler
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From michael.vance at att.net  Mon Oct 17 00:04:51 2005
From: michael.vance at att.net (Michael Vance)
Date: Mon Oct 17 00:07:00 2005
Subject: [NU Sports] Back from the Cow Pasture
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Hearing the "1,2,3,4,FIRST DOWN!" thing was strange.  Very early in the 
game I turned to the PU alum friend that I was with and said, "Do you do 
that every time?"  "Yep!" she enthusiastically responded.  I said, "You do 
realize that we're the 116th-ranked defense in Division I-A?  It's going to 
get old really quickly!"  And it did.

And the damn whistle?  I was still stuck in a concession line when the 
second half started (I left the stands late because I wanted to see the 
band).  It just happened to be the concession stand that is directly below 
the scoreboard in the south end zone.  The one that is directly below the 
damn whistle.  Three-quarters of the people in line, including those in 
black and gold, jumped, and the two toddlers with their mom in front of me 
in line started crying.  If you're going to do something like that, put it 
on top of the press box, or next to an existing loudspeaker, not someplace 
where you end up making a sizable portion of your fans soil themselves.

-Michael

At 10/16/2005 02:56 PM, SjT \(Stephen J. Truog\) wrote:
> > But the problem is that the fans are annoying with
> > their cheers and
> > that darn drum booming all the time, not to mention
> > the train whistle.
>
>Now see, I love that. I love it when home fans create
>a unique home atmosphere and cheer on their team. You
>have a train whistle ... the roar of the train chug
>(drum) ... all that stuff is great, IMO. Just like the
>Nittany Lion roar. Some fans get annoyed - I love it.
>
>I do see how it can tend to get annoying when done
>every friggin play, like the USC band's 3-note tune,
>but I wish NU had more of that zest and cheer from
>their fans.
>
>Wisconsin fans may be rude, crude and obnoxious ...
>but I always say that no fans wear their team colors
>more, clap in unison better (it's thunderous when
>their band comes out pregame and the crowd claps in
>unison) and create an intimidating home field
>advantage as much as Badger fans. About the only thing
>I like about when the sea of red comes to invade
>Evanston every few years is that it usually spurs NU
>fans to cheer a little more and we could certainly do
>that more often (STAND UP ON THIRD DOWN!!!!!!! Bring
>back the PURPLE mountain majesty and America the
>Beautiful for pregame! CLAP AND STAND for Go U! etc.).
>
>And I think NU has the best game announcer in the biz
>(and best band announcer in the biz) -- so what if
>it's cheering for the home team? I love hearing "FIRST
>AND GOOOOOOOAAAAAAALLLLLL Northwestern!" boom from the
>speakers!
>
> > I was also shocked by the fact that the fans at
> > Ross-Ade repeatedly
> > booed their own team.  They weren't just booing
>
>Now that I won't defend. Boo coaches, boo bad calls
>but there's never a good enough reason, IMO, to boo
>college student athletes who are working their butts
>off to give us the world's greatest sport every
>Saturday in the fall. They're still not pros and
>mistakes will happen - no reason to boo.
>
>GO CATS!!!
>-SjT
>
>* * * * * * * * *
>STEPHEN J. TRUOG
>sjtruog@yahoo.com
>GO CATS!!!
>
>
>
>
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From Alan.Abrahamson at latimes.com  Mon Oct 17 00:31:53 2005
From: Alan.Abrahamson at latimes.com (Abrahamson, Alan)
Date: Mon Oct 17 00:39:48 2005
Subject: [NU Sports] Big Ten today ...
Message-ID: <6A0419188B49A54C960893D230C26807084AE514@goose.latimes.com>

 As perhaps the primary "dear lister" (thanks!) who suggested we could lose all our Big Ten games, I would also like to point out that I took pains to note that I would nonetheless be rooting hard for the Wildcats to win.
 My outlook has not changed despite these past two incredible victories.
 The offense is great.
 The defense is not.
 For us to win consistently, the defense has to step up. 
 If it does, we could run the table.
 If it doesn't, we could lose every one of the next five games. 
 Believe me, nothing would give me greater joy than to "repent" were we to go bowling. 
 Different subject: for those of you who don't live in LA, try to take a moment to appreciate how good USC really is. Even if you don't like USC -- and, yes, I am first in line to shout from the mountaintops that the Cats got jobbed big-time in the 1996 Rose Bowl -- one of the joys of sport is appreciating greatness when it is present before you. This team -- this run over the past three seasons -- may end up being talked about for generations to come. And this guy Reggie Bush is the No. 1 pick in next year's draft -- ahead of Leinart, the Heisman winner. Try to enjoy it ... if you can.
 Warm regards to all on our list -- Alan
 
  

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Enjoyed reading all the comments. My top 3:
1) After the loss to Penn State some of our dear listers thought we would  
lose all our tough BT games.  Repent!
2)  Seeing ND lose the way they did warms my heart.
3)  Baz is the best NU QB in the modern era, we are going bowling, if  not 
BCS, weather is great in Orlando.
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From nolan at romaine.tssi.com  Mon Oct 17 01:16:51 2005
From: nolan at romaine.tssi.com (Mike Nolan)
Date: Mon Oct 17 01:16:59 2005
Subject: [NU Sports] Big Ten today ...
In-Reply-To: <6A0419188B49A54C960893D230C26807084AE514@goose.latimes.com> from
	"Abrahamson, Alan" at Oct 16, 2005 10:31:53 PM
Message-ID: <200510170616.j9H6Gpfp014596@romaine.tssi.com>

>  Different subject: for those of you who don't live in LA, try to take a moment to appreciate how good USC really is. Even if you don't like USC -- and, yes, I am first in line to shout from the mountaintops that the Cats got jobbed big-time in the 1996 Rose Bowl -- one of the joys of sport is appreciating greatness when it is present before you. This team -- this run over the past three seasons -- may end up being talked about for generations to come. And this guy Reggie Bush is the No. 1 pick in next year's draft -- ahead of Leinart, the Heisman winner. Try to enjoy it ... if you can.

Yesterday may have been one of the best days of college football watching
in many years.  So many games went down to the wire!  Right now there
appear to be 3 unstoppable teams:  USC, Texas, and Virginia Tech, and there's
a reasonable chance that there will be 4 undefeated teams from BCS
conferences come bowl season.  (It couldn't happen soon enough, the
new BCS system is more screwed up than ever before.)

I do have to agree that USC is one of the best offensive teams I've seen 
in years, though possibly not quite as good as the 1995 Huskers, a couple
of Miami squads and one or two of Barry Switzer's Oklahoma teams.  (I'm 
not quite old enough to remember the 1950's OU teams.)   

All of those great teams had a championship caliber defense, too.  I think 
USC's defense is suspect, though I'm not sure who'll prove it until
January.  Fresno State may get a chance to be the giant killer of the decade,
and the USC-UCLA game could be one for the books too, though I think
USC could be favored by at least 10 points in both games.

OTOH (and it REALLY hurts to write this), I think Notre Dame is (finally) 
back, they'll be a force to contend with in a year or two.  IMHO, they're 
only 2 plays away from being ranked no worse than #2 today.  

With Boston's World Series win last year lifting the curse of the Bambino
and the White Sox on track to banish the ghost of Shoeless Joe this year, 
can Rocky Colavito's Curse or the Chicago Cubs' Goat be far behind?

Now, what can we do about the curse of Dyche Stadium?
--
Mike Nolan

From sjtruog at yahoo.com  Mon Oct 17 01:46:15 2005
From: sjtruog at yahoo.com (SjT (Stephen J. Truog))
Date: Mon Oct 17 01:47:29 2005
Subject: [NU Sports] Big Ten today ...
In-Reply-To: <6A0419188B49A54C960893D230C26807084AE514@goose.latimes.com>
Message-ID: <20051017064616.65698.qmail@web52912.mail.yahoo.com>

>  My outlook has not changed despite these past two
> incredible victories.
>  The offense is great.

... but has a tendency to get complacent.

>  The defense is not.

... but has a tendency to force turnovers.:)

>  For us to win consistently, the defense has to step
> up. 
>  If it does, we could run the table.
>  If it doesn't, we could lose every one of the next
> five games. 

I agree with that completely.

>  Different subject: for those of you who don't live
> in LA, try to take a moment to appreciate how good
> USC really is. Even if you don't like USC -- and,

Appreciate? Yes. Enjoy? No.:) Though I'm still smiling
thinking how all those Subway Alumni back in
Chicagoland will be moping all week about the ending
of the game (Lou couldn't stop whining on ESPN
Saturday night) ... at least they'll be drowned out by
all the new-found White Sox fans in Chicagoland (hey,
we have a team on the south side? who knew?:) )

> you. This team -- this run over the past three
> seasons -- may end up being talked about for
> generations to come. And this guy Reggie Bush is the

Actually, it could go back about a half season before
that -- USC really picked it up about midway through
the 2002 season and by the time top 10 teams Notre
Dame and Iowa came their way, Carson Palmer shredded
the Irish and #3 Hawkeyes in the Orange Bowl. If
college football had a playoff, Pete Carroll might be
working on a 4th straight title, as impressive as tOSU
and Miami were in 2002.

> No. 1 pick in next year's draft -- ahead of Leinart,
> the Heisman winner. Try to enjoy it ... if you can.

Nah ... I do like Pete Carroll -- he really seems to
"get" the college game in a way few coaches do. Maybe
it's because he was at the pros and sees that the
grass isn't always greener. He has fun, is a heck of a
game planner and isn't even thinking about leaving -
he knows how good he has it. So he makes it an itsy
bitsy bit tougher to hate the Trojans (he's no evil
John Robinson) ... but then you just have to hear that
band again, see the fans flashing the V of arrogance
and it all comes roaring back.:)

Next week should be more fun in the Big Ten ... I
think PSU and OSU should win handily (and should run
the table to possible BCS bids -- but nothing's for
sure in this year's league), but have a sneaking
suspicion that Purdue's due for an upset in Madison.
And the other two games are huge for bowl position.
The  loser of UM/Iowa probably says goodbye to January
1 hopes and the NU/MSU winner could be on their way to
one of the bigger bowls.

GO CATS!!!
-SjT

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From mzilka at sbcglobal.net  Mon Oct 17 05:42:49 2005
From: mzilka at sbcglobal.net (Marilyn J Zilka)
Date: Mon Oct 17 05:43:57 2005
Subject: [NU Sports] Michigan State tickets -
Message-ID: <20051017104249.17109.qmail@web81509.mail.yahoo.com>

I have 3 tickets available for Michigan State
 
Sec 4 
Row 13 
seats 30, 31, 32
 
face value $46 plus shipping
 
Please email me back if interested--
fyi-I will not be able to respond back to anyone until Tues night --will have no access to
this email address until then
 
marilyn
From ddave at nusports.com  Mon Oct 17 07:08:57 2005
From: ddave at nusports.com (dave bradley)
Date: Mon Oct 17 07:29:23 2005
Subject: [NU Sports] Big Ten today ...
Message-ID: <20051017050857.9F836156@dm20.mta.everyone.net>

I'm with you Alan. After the Penn State loss (when we all assumed Penn State wasn't very good), I also questioned if the Cats could any other games. I'm not sure about running the table but with these two wins, I am optimistic that they will give everyone a run for their money and - if the D shows - they might win a few more.

It truly was a grand weekend, what with the Cats winning, Penn State losing (I live in the heart of PA...the band on the PSU bandwagon has been keeping me up nights since early September when PSU "thrashed" South Florida), ND losing < gotta love the Trojans if only for that>, and great finishes to so many games. Kept me from finishing my basement remodeling project as I kept going back and forth to the TV flipping channels trying to watch all the finishes....

dave bradley
(717) 687-5355
ddave@NUsports.com


--- "Abrahamson, Alan" <Alan.Abrahamson@latimes.com> wrote:

From: "Abrahamson, Alan" <Alan.Abrahamson@latimes.com>
Date: Sun, 16 Oct 2005 22:31:53 -0700
To: "'MHRJGScott@aol.com'" <MHRJGScott@aol.com>, nwu-sports@tssi.com
Subject: RE: [NU Sports] Big Ten today ...

 As perhaps the primary "dear lister" (thanks!) who suggested we could lose all our Big Ten games, I would also like to point out that I took pains to note that I would nonetheless be rooting hard for the Wildcats to win.
 My outlook has not changed despite these past two incredible victories.
 The offense is great.
 The defense is not.
 For us to win consistently, the defense has to step up. 
 If it does, we could run the table.
 If it doesn't, we could lose every one of the next five games. 
 Believe me, nothing would give me greater joy than to "repent" were we to go bowling. 
 Different subject: for those of you who don't live in LA, try to take a moment to appreciate how good USC really is. Even if you don't like USC -- and, yes, I am first in line to shout from the mountaintops that the Cats got jobbed big-time in the 1996 Rose Bowl -- one of the joys of sport is appreciating greatness when it is present before you. This team -- this run over the past three seasons -- may end up being talked about for generations to come. And this guy Reggie Bush is the No. 1 pick in next year's draft -- ahead of Leinart, the Heisman winner. Try to enjoy it ... if you can.
 Warm regards to all on our list -- Alan
 
  

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Sent: Sunday, October 16, 2005 10:02 AM
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Subject: Re: [NU Sports] Big Ten today ...


Enjoyed reading all the comments. My top 3:
1) After the loss to Penn State some of our dear listers thought we would  
lose all our tough BT games.  Repent!
2)  Seeing ND lose the way they did warms my heart.
3)  Baz is the best NU QB in the modern era, we are going bowling, if  not 
BCS, weather is great in Orlando.
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From Hakirsch at aol.com  Mon Oct 17 07:59:43 2005
From: Hakirsch at aol.com (Hakirsch@aol.com)
Date: Mon Oct 17 08:00:56 2005
Subject: [NU Sports] Big Ten today ...
Message-ID: <196.49377e01.3084fa3f@aol.com>

Alan is "spot on"

I don't know how we can compete at the highest levels in the conference 
without a secondary--We will get burned by the teams who have deep threats if we 
don't figure it out soon. Having said that , I am thrilled that it looks likely 
we will be going bowling somewhere--even if it one that they have to give out 
free tickets .


Harry
From lvaccher at comcast.net  Mon Oct 17 08:56:42 2005
From: lvaccher at comcast.net (Louie Vaccher)
Date: Mon Oct 17 09:13:01 2005
Subject: [NU Sports] More good news for the Cats
Message-ID: <002801c5d322$9aeded40$c0d7b043@Louie>

The Cats got a verbal commitment from Bolingbrook (IL) wide receiver prospect Carl Fisher on Sunday. Fisher is a 6-foot-2, 205-pounder with 4.4 speed and is a big fish in the Chicago area. He's the sixth member of NU's Class of 2006.

Thanks,

Louie Vaccher
WildcatReport.com
From jeffb at hilgraeve.com  Mon Oct 17 09:19:29 2005
From: jeffb at hilgraeve.com (Jeff Beamsley)
Date: Mon Oct 17 09:24:04 2005
Subject: [NU Sports] fellow white sox fans....
In-Reply-To: <20051016094502.52088.qmail@web51314.mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <06ca01c5d325$c9599870$97492745@hilgraeve.com>

Personally it was a wonderful day to be a couch potato.  I didn't get much
physical exercise, but I figured that the elevated heart rate for the
NU/Pdoo, UoM/PSU, ND/USC, and Sox/Angels games were probably the equivalent
of a marathon.

It's a great day to be a Sox fan.  

For all those bitter Cubbie fans out there, I'd recommend a little onion
with that liver. <g>

Jeff






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Behalf Of Brad Wilson
Sent: Sunday, October 16, 2005 5:45 AM
To: nwu-sports@tssi.com
Subject: [NU Sports] fellow white sox fans....

And there have to be some of you on this list ... do October Saturdays get
any better than an huge NU win in the afternoon followed by the White Sox
winning an ALCS game at night?

Well, not much better -- except NEXT Saturday, when the Wildcats hammer
Michigan State and the Sox win Game 1 of the World Series.

And the Saturday following ... when NU smacks Michigan under the lights to
clinch a bowl bid and the Sox win the series (or already have won it). 

Nirvana, baby. 

bw





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From jeffb at hilgraeve.com  Mon Oct 17 10:03:37 2005
From: jeffb at hilgraeve.com (Jeff Beamsley)
Date: Mon Oct 17 10:43:36 2005
Subject: [NU Sports] Big Ten today ...
In-Reply-To: <200510170616.j9H6Gpfp014596@romaine.tssi.com>
Message-ID: <06f101c5d32b$f3e2aae0$97492745@hilgraeve.com>


Mike wrote <snip>
With Boston's World Series win last year lifting the curse of the Bambino
and the White Sox on track to banish the ghost of Shoeless Joe this year,
can Rocky Colavito's Curse or the Chicago Cubs' Goat be far behind?

===========================

No I think that there is something timeless and classic about the Cubs
approach to postseason baseball.  It has become as much a tradition on the
northside as ivy.  Every decade or so, a new crop of Cub fans (and players)
with no memory of past disappointments feel that their hope and pure
thoughts are going to make the difference this year.  When the season
inevitably ends in another heartbreaking loss, they are officially turned to
the dark side.  Their only hope of redemption is to pour more delusional
hope into next year.  Thus begins a lifetime of bitter masochistic
codependency that is being a Cub fan.    

Though this year is particularly sweet, observing this pattern is one of the
great things about being a lifelong Sox fan.  We only rarely have the Sox to
support in the post season, but get to enjoy the Cubs passion play every
year.

Jeff

From jeffb at hilgraeve.com  Mon Oct 17 10:40:59 2005
From: jeffb at hilgraeve.com (Jeff Beamsley)
Date: Mon Oct 17 10:45:32 2005
Subject: [NU Sports] Big Ten today ...
In-Reply-To: <19a.3eaa7995.3083e192@aol.com>
Message-ID: <070b01c5d331$2c129240$97492745@hilgraeve.com>

 
I'm happy to chime in as one who had real (and has) real concerns about how
our D is going to hold up against our tough schedule.

What I've seen over the past couple of weeks is an interesting development
(particularly the Wisky game).

Big Ten teams have an expectation to be able to run the ball.  They look at
NU and think that they are going to have a field day and often they do, but
no one has been able to shut down our offense.  Our offense gets some quick
scores, gets a lead, doesn't turn the ball over, and begins to trade
touchdowns.  All of a sudden it's the second half and these teams that have
been running all over us, feel like they have to start passing to catch up.
The fact that our pass defense is weak and gives them an opportunity
re-enforces that choice, but now the game has become a one-dimensional shoot
out.  In a shoot out, we have as good an opportunity as anyone to win, and
probably better as the season goes along because we have more experience
with it.

It's a return to 2000 with the exception of the no huddle.  

MSU should be an interesting game because they like to score too.  Hopefully
it will be another case of whomever has the ball last.

Jeff



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Behalf Of MHRJGScott@aol.com
Sent: Sunday, October 16, 2005 1:02 PM
To: nwu-sports@tssi.com
Subject: Re: [NU Sports] Big Ten today ...

Enjoyed reading all the comments. My top 3:
1) After the loss to Penn State some of our dear listers thought we would
lose all our tough BT games.  Repent!
2)  Seeing ND lose the way they did warms my heart.
3)  Baz is the best NU QB in the modern era, we are going bowling, if  not
BCS, weather is great in Orlando.
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From DPENDERG at aol.com  Mon Oct 17 11:27:12 2005
From: DPENDERG at aol.com (DPENDERG@aol.com)
Date: Mon Oct 17 11:31:08 2005
Subject: [NU Sports] Big Ten today ...
Message-ID: <12a.680f5e7d.30852ae0@aol.com>

 
I expect that Stanton and MSU will come out early and throw the ball around  
the NU secondary, which they see (plausibly, of course) as vulnerable. I  also 
anticipate another close scoring festival with both teams marching up and  
down the field.  I just don't think, however, that we can continue  indefinitely 
to see the Offense bail us out in the final drive. We saw some  signs of 
improvement in the secondary against Purdue (although that was against  a very 
weak QB), but they will have to play much better for us to stay in the  game 
against a potent MSU offense. 
 
In a message dated 10/17/2005 11:50:45 A.M. Eastern Standard Time,  
jeffb@hilgraeve.com writes:


I'm  happy to chime in as one who had real (and has) real concerns about how
our  D is going to hold up against our tough schedule.

What I've seen over  the past couple of weeks is an interesting development
(particularly the  Wisky game).

Big Ten teams have an expectation to be able to run the  ball.  They look at
NU and think that they are going to have a field  day and often they do, but
no one has been able to shut down our  offense.  Our offense gets some quick
scores, gets a lead, doesn't  turn the ball over, and begins to trade
touchdowns.  All of a sudden  it's the second half and these teams that have
been running all over us,  feel like they have to start passing to catch up.
The fact that our pass  defense is weak and gives them an opportunity
re-enforces that choice, but  now the game has become a one-dimensional shoot
out.  In a shoot out,  we have as good an opportunity as anyone to win, and
probably better as the  season goes along because we have more experience
with it.

It's a  return to 2000 with the exception of the no huddle.  

MSU should  be an interesting game because they like to score too.  Hopefully
it  will be another case of whomever has the ball  last.

Jeff



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Behalf  Of MHRJGScott@aol.com
Sent: Sunday, October 16, 2005 1:02 PM
To:  nwu-sports@tssi.com
Subject: Re: [NU Sports] Big Ten today  ...

Enjoyed reading all the comments. My top 3:
1) After the loss to  Penn State some of our dear listers thought we would
lose all our tough BT  games.  Repent!
2)  Seeing ND lose the way they did warms my  heart.
3)  Baz is the best NU QB in the modern era, we are going  bowling, if  not
BCS, weather is great in  Orlando.
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From sjtruog at yahoo.com  Mon Oct 17 13:21:44 2005
From: sjtruog at yahoo.com (SjT (Stephen J. Truog))
Date: Mon Oct 17 13:22:52 2005
Subject: [NU Sports] Big Ten today ...
In-Reply-To: <200510170616.j9H6Gpfp014596@romaine.tssi.com>
Message-ID: <20051017182144.66868.qmail@web52903.mail.yahoo.com>

>  Right now there
> appear to be 3 unstoppable teams:  USC, Texas, and
> Virginia Tech, and there's
> a reasonable chance that there will be 4 undefeated
> teams from BCS

Well, don't jump ahead too far. FSU slipped up, and
VaTech has a killer finish of Virginia, Miami and FSU
(probably) in a month's span. As for the SEC
unbeatens, I dunno if anyone can get through that
league unscathed - kind of like the Big Ten (again -
Auburn last year was special and deserved a shot at
SC).

I don't think anyone left on Texas' schedule will give
the Horns much of a scare, so they're safe ... but the
interesting thing will be if someone topples SC. They
still have to go to Cal and face a UCLA team that
shoulda beat 'em last year and is not scared of SC.

> I do have to agree that USC is one of the best
> offensive teams I've seen 
> in years, though possibly not quite as good as the
> 1995 Huskers, a couple
> of Miami squads and one or two of Barry Switzer's

Don't forget those '94 Nittany Lions -- I know Husker
fans overlook 'em:) -- but they seem like a pretty apt
comparison to this SC team. An amazing offense that
can score on any play and doesn't get phased when
down, plus an underrated defense that is tough but has
holes.

> defense, too.  I think 
> USC's defense is suspect, though I'm not sure who'll
> prove it until January.

And the thing is, if it gets to January, it won't be
proven. You give Pete Carroll a month to prepare for
Vince Young or anyone else and that D will be rock
solid (ask OU last year ... or Iowa a few years back).

Don't count out UCLA though. Smart move by the Pac 10
to move that to December -- gives the league a
national game that could be two unbeatens (too bad FSU
lost, or the dream of a Dec. 3 with unbeatens
UGa-Bama, VaTech-FSU and UCLA-USC all facing each
other, plus unbeaten Texas playing would have been
amazing).

> OTOH (and it REALLY hurts to write this), I think
> Notre Dame is (finally) 
> back, they'll be a force to contend with in a year

Eh, again I'll say "not so fast" on the Irish --
remember they had the same boost from Willingham (how
many times are the Irish allowed to "be back" in a
decade?:) ). They have some BIG issues on defense
(even Purdue shredded 'em - they just turned it over
too much) and have yet to beat a team ranked in
today's Top 25. Pitt and Washington are awful awful
teams. Purdue is sloppy and Michigan was overrated at
#4 and that's before the usual Lloyd Carr
clam-up-vs.-the-Irish strategy came into play. Their
two toughest games were at home and they lost both.

I think a lot of Weis' offense is catching people by
surprise this year because it's a novelty act from the
pros that a lot of DCs haven't seen before. I suspect
Pete Carroll will have it broken down next year in LA
and most other defenses will be ready for it better as
well in the future. Kind of like the spread -- we'll
see how well Weis adapts his O to keep other teams off
balance. The recruiting will never be a problem, but
I'm not set to say they're back yet. I see one more
loss in 'em this year yet -- maybe not Tennessee, but
some slip up.

GO CATS!!! BEAT MSU!!!
-SjT

* * * * * * * * *
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From rstetson at capps-assoc.com  Mon Oct 17 13:37:39 2005
From: rstetson at capps-assoc.com (Roy Lamberton)
Date: Mon Oct 17 13:47:03 2005
Subject: [NU Sports] Big Ten today ...
In-Reply-To: <20051017182144.66868.qmail@web52903.mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <000001c5d349$da143d40$6500a8c0@DAVIDXP>

On Weis:

I think I read somewhere [might have been here] that Weis is one of those
coaches who takes what the other team's defense gives and builds his offenses
around that. 

I know that up in New England, the technique was to put together a team of solid
players, and use those player's ability to adjust to your D to beat you.

If this style of offense are successful at ND, we'll see a whole bunch of teams
change over to the pro set, and the entire cycle of stealing offenses will begin
again.

Sounds interesting...

rsl

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> I think a lot of Weis' offense is catching people by
> surprise this year because it's a novelty act from the
> pros that a lot of DCs haven't seen before. I suspect
> Pete Carroll will have it broken down next year in LA
> and most other defenses will be ready for it better as
> well in the future. Kind of like the spread -- we'll
> see how well Weis adapts his O to keep other teams off
> balance. The recruiting will never be a problem, but
> I'm not set to say they're back yet. I see one more
> loss in 'em this year yet -- maybe not Tennessee, but
> some slip up.
> 
> GO CATS!!! BEAT MSU!!!
> -SjT
> 
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> STEPHEN J. TRUOG
> sjtruog@yahoo.com
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From michael.vance at att.net  Mon Oct 17 14:01:46 2005
From: michael.vance at att.net (michael.vance@att.net)
Date: Mon Oct 17 14:02:31 2005
Subject: [NU Sports] Where was Hamlett?
Message-ID: <101720051901.27547.4353F51A000270E000006B9B21612436460A0C020E90D2040A0E080C0703@att.net>

Where was Gerard Hamlett on Saturday?  I noticed before the opening kickoff went up that he was not there, and definitely missed his KOR ability.  Does anyone have the scoop?

--
Michael 
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From rstetson at capps-assoc.com  Mon Oct 17 13:36:58 2005
From: rstetson at capps-assoc.com (Roy Lamberton)
Date: Mon Oct 17 14:05:52 2005
Subject: [NU Sports] Big Ten today ...
In-Reply-To: <20051017182144.66868.qmail@web52903.mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <000001c5d349$c2358d50$6500a8c0@DAVIDXP>

On Weis:

I think I read somewhere [might have been here] that Weis is one of those
coaches who takes what the other team's defense gives and builds his offenses
around that. 

I know that up in New England, the technique was to put together a team of solid
players, and use those player's ability to adjust to your D to beat you.

If this style of offense are successful at ND, we'll see a whole bunch of teams
change over to the pro set, and the entire cycle of stealing offenses will begin
again.

Sounds interesting...

rsl

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> I think a lot of Weis' offense is catching people by
> surprise this year because it's a novelty act from the
> pros that a lot of DCs haven't seen before. I suspect
> Pete Carroll will have it broken down next year in LA
> and most other defenses will be ready for it better as
> well in the future. Kind of like the spread -- we'll
> see how well Weis adapts his O to keep other teams off
> balance. The recruiting will never be a problem, but
> I'm not set to say they're back yet. I see one more
> loss in 'em this year yet -- maybe not Tennessee, but
> some slip up.
> 
> GO CATS!!! BEAT MSU!!!
> -SjT
> 
> * * * * * * * * *
> STEPHEN J. TRUOG
> sjtruog@yahoo.com
> GO CATS!!!
> 
> 
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From MHRJGScott at aol.com  Mon Oct 17 14:11:21 2005
From: MHRJGScott at aol.com (MHRJGScott@aol.com)
Date: Mon Oct 17 14:15:20 2005
Subject: [NU Sports] Big Ten today ...
Message-ID: <da.2f3d7a4f.30855159@aol.com>

 
Now, what can we do about the curse of Dyche Stadium?
--
Mike  Nolan

 
 
I wish we could tear it down and build a real big stadium with 100,000 fans  
on Saturdays. I have been watching "fields of glory" since I got a HDTV I will 
 watch anything in HDTV (even with the annoying alum Musberger) and those 
places,  the swamp, big house, etc. make our poor little dyche look like a high 
school  field. I mean NU raised like $2 billion in the last fund raising, what's
 $100  million for a nice place to play.
 
 
INHD BRINGS COLLEGE FOOTBALL?S MOST HALLOWED ARENAS TO  LIFE WITH THE NEW 
HDTV SERIES FIELDS OF GLORY 
Renowned Voice Of College Sports Brent Musburger To Narrate  Series, Which 
Debuts on Wednesday, October 20th at 8pm (EST) 
NEW YORK, October 11, 2004 ? INHD, cable?s most widely distributed all  
high-definition network, announced today the premiere of its new series produced  
in the 1080i high definition format, Fields of Glory. Narrated by iconic  
broadcast veteran Brent Musburger, Fields of Glory is a 10-part series that will  
showcase college football?s most awe-inspiring stadiums and take viewers on a  
vivid tour of the game?s grand history and time-honored traditions.  
Louisiana State University: Tiger Stadium October 20th 
Notre Dame Stadium  October 27th 
University of Tennessee: Neyland Stadium November 3rd  
University of Florida: Ben Hill Griffin Stadium at Florida Field November  
10th 
University of Oregon: Autzen Stadium November 17th 
Ohio State  University: Ohio Stadium November 24th 
Auburn University: Jordan-Hare  Stadium December 1st 
Texas A&M: Kyle Field December 8th 
University  of Texas: Darrell K Royal Texas Memorial Stadium December 15th 
University of  Michigan: Michigan Stadium December 22nd 
 




From jonathanwhodges at gmail.com  Mon Oct 17 15:02:37 2005
From: jonathanwhodges at gmail.com (Jonathan Hodges)
Date: Mon Oct 17 15:03:40 2005
Subject: [NU Sports] Where was Hamlett?
In-Reply-To: <101720051901.27547.4353F51A000270E000006B9B21612436460A0C020E90D2040A0E080C0703@att.net>
References: <101720051901.27547.4353F51A000270E000006B9B21612436460A0C020E90D2040A0E080C0703@att.net>
Message-ID: <fcb3ee270510171302k1cbf13d5we808cc8f3dfadc39@mail.gmail.com>

If you check out the injury status it says he is questionable because
of an ankle injury.  What is interesting about Hamlett is that against
Wisconsin (when he had the 81 yard return), he was in as the blocking
back - Roberson was supposed to take the kickoffs.  Roberson did get a
75 yard return taken back due to a holding penalty earlier that day,
but Wisconsin continually kicked to the opposite side.  The ended up
getting burned by Hamlett on that amazing return.  I don't expect that
he will play until he is recovered since Conteh and Roberson are still
available at RB/KR.

Jonathan

On 10/17/05, michael.vance@att.net <michael.vance@att.net> wrote:
> Where was Gerard Hamlett on Saturday?  I noticed before the opening kickoff went up that he was not there, and definitely missed his KOR ability.  Does anyone have the scoop?
>
> --
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From DPENDERG at aol.com  Mon Oct 17 16:27:25 2005
From: DPENDERG at aol.com (DPENDERG@aol.com)
Date: Mon Oct 17 16:31:27 2005
Subject: [NU Sports] Big Ten today ...
Message-ID: <1ef.46800e83.3085713d@aol.com>

 
I can just see 20-30k scattered in a 100,000-seat stadium!  That would  look 
great on television, wouldn't it?   Except of course when  Michigan or OSU 
came to town and filled the place. 
 
In a message dated 10/17/2005 3:16:49 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,  
MHRJGScott@aol.com writes:


Now,  what can we do about the curse of Dyche Stadium?
--
Mike   Nolan



I wish we could tear it down and build a real big stadium  with 100,000 fans  
on Saturdays. I have been watching "fields of  glory" since I got a HDTV I 
will 
watch anything in HDTV (even with the  annoying alum Musberger) and those 
places,  the swamp, big house,  etc. make our poor little dyche look like a 
high 
school  field. I  mean NU raised like $2 billion in the last fund raising, 
what's
$100   million for a nice place to play.


INHD BRINGS COLLEGE FOOTBALL?S  MOST HALLOWED ARENAS TO  LIFE WITH THE NEW 
HDTV SERIES FIELDS OF  GLORY 
Renowned Voice Of College Sports Brent Musburger To Narrate   Series, Which 
Debuts on Wednesday, October 20th at 8pm (EST) 
NEW YORK,  October 11, 2004 ? INHD, cable?s most widely distributed all   
high-definition network, announced today the premiere of its new series  
produced  
in the 1080i high definition format, Fields of Glory.  Narrated by iconic  
broadcast veteran Brent Musburger, Fields of  Glory is a 10-part series that 
will  
showcase college football?s most  awe-inspiring stadiums and take viewers on 
a  
vivid tour of the  game?s grand history and time-honored traditions.  
Louisiana State  University: Tiger Stadium October 20th 
Notre Dame Stadium  October  27th 
University of Tennessee: Neyland Stadium November 3rd   
University of Florida: Ben Hill Griffin Stadium at Florida Field  November  
10th 
University of Oregon: Autzen Stadium November 17th  
Ohio State  University: Ohio Stadium November 24th 
Auburn  University: Jordan-Hare  Stadium December 1st 
Texas A&M: Kyle  Field December 8th 
University  of Texas: Darrell K Royal Texas  Memorial Stadium December 15th 
University of  Michigan: Michigan  Stadium December 22nd  





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From jleonard518 at yahoo.com  Mon Oct 17 18:35:52 2005
From: jleonard518 at yahoo.com (Jim Leonard)
Date: Mon Oct 17 18:37:09 2005
Subject: [NU Sports] Mid-Season Predictions
In-Reply-To: <430BC03B.9080808@earthlink.net>
Message-ID: <20051017233552.56554.qmail@web30303.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

Fellow Wildcat Faithful,

Below are the predictions I made before the game against Ohio. This was back
when I thought MSU would be middle-of-the-pack and Purdue, Iowa, and Michigan
were solid contenders. I think we're due for a let down this week, but we'll
rally with a strong Homecoming victory against Michigan. 

Victory & Honor,
Jim

09/03/05 (H) Ohio               - WIN    (we won)
09/10/05 (H) Northern Illinois  - WIN    (we won)
09/17/05 (a) Arizona State      - Loss   (we lost HUGE)
09/24/05 (H) Penn State         - WIN    (we lost)
10/08/05 (H) Wisconsin          - WIN    (we won)
10/15/05 (a) Purdue             - Loss   (we won)
10/22/05 (a) Michigan State     - WIN    (Updated - loss)
10/29/05 (H) Michigan           - Loss   (Updated - WIN)
11/05/05 (H) Iowa               - Loss   (Updated - WIN)
11/12/05 (a) Ohio State         - Loss   (Updated - loss)
11/19/05 (a) Illinois           - WIN    (Updated - WIN)
---------------------------------------------------------------
             OVERALL: 6-5                OVERALL: 7-4

Our "Bowl Bubble" game will be stealing a road win at Michigan State. 



		
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From NEONRye at aol.com  Mon Oct 17 18:51:46 2005
From: NEONRye at aol.com (NEONRye@aol.com)
Date: Mon Oct 17 18:53:09 2005
Subject: [NU Sports] Mid-Season Predictions
Message-ID: <218.bab38a6.30859312@aol.com>

Jim,
Not just "Bowl Bubble"; the game this week may have more impact than  that.  
I predict that if we upset the Spartans, who are currently ranked in  the Top 
25 in all of the polls, we will see a Purple presence in those polls a  week 
from today, as we would have 2 wins over ranked teams plus the  heartbreaking 
loss to PSU.   And our Big 3 playmakers are garnering  enough positive 
recognition to help our cause with the pollsters as well.
 
Paul Levinson
From hakirsch at aol.com  Mon Oct 17 19:09:03 2005
From: hakirsch at aol.com (hakirsch@aol.com)
Date: Mon Oct 17 19:10:17 2005
Subject: [NU Sports] Mid-Season Predictions
In-Reply-To: <218.bab38a6.30859312@aol.com>
References: <218.bab38a6.30859312@aol.com>
Message-ID: <8C7A18F4828329B-15DC-29EA@MBLK-M17.sysops.aol.com>

Boy is we upset MSU --and are not ranked, then something would really be amiss--It is a foregone conclusion in mind that beating MSU would get us ranked. Then the game the following week vs Michigan in the evening on ESPN would be watched by many throughout the country (though might have to compete with the World Series)
 
Harry Kirsch 
 
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Sent: Mon, 17 Oct 2005 19:51:46 EDT
Subject: Re: [NU Sports] Mid-Season Predictions


Jim,
Not just "Bowl Bubble"; the game this week may have more impact than  that.  
I predict that if we upset the Spartans, who are currently ranked in  the Top 
25 in all of the polls, we will see a Purple presence in those polls a  week 
from today, as we would have 2 wins over ranked teams plus the  heartbreaking 
loss to PSU.   And our Big 3 playmakers are garnering  enough positive 
recognition to help our cause with the pollsters as well.
 
Paul Levinson
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From spiritu at northwestern.edu  Mon Oct 17 19:10:35 2005
From: spiritu at northwestern.edu (Jonathan Michael Hawkins)
Date: Mon Oct 17 19:11:48 2005
Subject: [NU Sports] Mid-Season Predictions
In-Reply-To: <218.bab38a6.30859312@aol.com>
References: <218.bab38a6.30859312@aol.com>
Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.64.0510171906220.9571@localhost>

> And our Big 3 playmakers are garnering enough positive recognition to 
> help our cause with the pollsters as well.

Brett Basanez received his second straight B10 Offensive Player of the 
Week award today:

http://bigten.collegesports.com/sports/m-footbl/spec-rel/101705aab.html
<http://bigten.collegesports.com/sports/m-footbl/spec-rel/101705aab.html>

Jonathan

From Pskinas at aol.com  Mon Oct 17 19:51:46 2005
From: Pskinas at aol.com (Pskinas@aol.com)
Date: Mon Oct 17 19:55:40 2005
Subject: [NU Sports] ESPN Bowl Predictions
Message-ID: <208.bd377d9.3085a122@aol.com>

Two expert opinions, and two Northwestern appearances at the midway  juncture.
 
_http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/news/story?id=2194032_ 
(http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/news/story?id=2194032) 
 
Patrick Kinas
aka - The only Raleigh resident who flies a NU flag and drives with NU  
windsocks on gamedays!   Go Cats!
 
From sjtruog at yahoo.com  Mon Oct 17 20:03:15 2005
From: sjtruog at yahoo.com (SjT (Stephen J. Truog))
Date: Mon Oct 17 20:04:26 2005
Subject: [NU Sports] Tears, Tears for old Notre Dame ...
Message-ID: <20051018010315.20947.qmail@web52913.mail.yahoo.com>

Waaaaaaaaaah! Waaaaaaaaaaaah!

Sheesh - even all the way out in the desert I can
still hear all the whining from South Bend this
weekend ... but even worse is all this "greatest game
ever" hype.

Yeah, it was a wonderful finish - but greatest game
ever? Sorry Chicago columnists, Regis and Domer lovers
-- this isn't even the greatest game played in Notre
Dame Stadium (the '88 Miami game easily had more drama
throughout and that's not even going back more than a
couple decades).

And now all the BCS sour grapes is sure to come out --
without the notoriously Irish-biased AP poll in the
mix, they're #16 ... and with few big games left, they
may need help to get the BCS bid they feel so entitled
to. Awwwww.

Are the Big XII/Bowden Computers biased? Not really
... let's just look at who the Irish have beaten:

Pitt: 3-4 - awful team
Michigan: 4-3 - most mediocre Michigan team in years
Washington: 1-5 - worse than Pitt, but a better coach
Purdue: 2-4 - Tiller's worst team in Moo Moo Land

And with no B.C. on the schedule, the rest of the
slate looks pretty thin, save for a November home date
with Tennessee, who could be out of the top 20 if they
don't win at Alabama this weekend. Syracuse, BYU and
Stanford are pretty poor this year and Navy -- though
always tough -- won't help those BCS rankings either.

I think a win over Tennessee and some serious Mack
Brown-esque lobbying from the national press :) will
get ND over the hump and up in the polls for a BCS
bid. But if they fall to the Vols in November at home,
they just won't have a quality win and a poor SOS will
ruin any BCS hopes. GO ROCKY TOP!!! (Though I don't
think Phat Phil can exploit the Irish secondary like
$C and MSU did and will try to run it instead).

If I had to guess at the BCS now, I'd say ...

* ROSE: USC vs. Texas - Could have the top 4 Heisman
finishers, three wearing the maroon and gold. A big
game and SC has the hometown edge.

* FIESTA: Penn State vs. Notre Dame - I think the
Irish beat the Vols to sneak in and PSU shouldn't lose
the rest of the way, so with their Pac 10 and Big XII
ties gone, the Fiesta uses those first picks to take
the best matchup and make up for having to take Pitt
last year.

* ORANGE: Virginia Tech vs. Alabama - Not playing in
the SEC title game could help the Tide (or Gators) get
into the BCS ... though a 9-2 OSU team would be tough
for the BCS to pass up as well.

* SUGAR: LSU vs. West Virginia - Somebody's gotta play
the Big Least champ and WV and VaTech have already
met. At least they can play up the LSU and Sugar Bowl
away-from-New Orleans theme to generate interest.

The contest for that extra bid will be strong between
the Big Four (Big Ten, Pac 10, SEC and ACC). With the
SEC having the most top 10 teams all year and the open
bid probably coming in Miami or Atlanta, it's a pretty
safe call that the SEC gets the 1st extra slot for
now.

If ND doesn't get a bid, then the Fiesta would
probably LOVE to take a 10-1 UCLA and match 'em up
with 10-1 PSU in a Rose Bowl away from the Rose Bowl.

As for the Big Ten bowl picture, I hope to put
together a midterm report card later this week with
bowl predictions. Could be a real interesting year
with the upheaval in some conferences though (the
Alamo, for example, would probably have NEVER thought
they could have a Michigan vs. Oklahoma matchup when
this season began and both were in the top 10).

GO CATS!!!
-SjT

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From NEONRye at aol.com  Mon Oct 17 23:07:01 2005
From: NEONRye at aol.com (NEONRye@aol.com)
Date: Mon Oct 17 23:27:27 2005
Subject: [NU Sports] Cardiac Cards
Message-ID: <a1.699f1a7f.3085cee5@aol.com>

Query:  Did Albert Pujols ever take any classes at NU?  He sure  could be a 
Cardiac 'Cat, couldn't he?  I am not particularly an Astros fan,  but I was 
rooting for them and their fans to get off of the schneid after 43  years and 
make the World Series.  Watching that painful ninth inning, all I  could think of 
was (a) the Boston Red Sox every year until last year (1986 vs.  the Mets 
comes immediately to mind) and (b) the late Donnie Moore of the Angels  who gave 
up a similarly ill-timed Gopher Ball and ended up committing  suicide.  I 
certainly hope Brad Lidge gets a quick chance at  redemption.
 
In any event, I became a Sox fan in my time in Evanston and want them to go  
all the way vs. whichever opponent they play.  I only wish the games could  be 
in that old barn on the South Side, Comiskey.  
 
Paul Levinson
From Hakirsch at aol.com  Mon Oct 17 23:50:54 2005
From: Hakirsch at aol.com (Hakirsch@aol.com)
Date: Mon Oct 17 23:54:54 2005
Subject: [NU Sports] Cardiac Cards
Message-ID: <79.5021cd89.3085d92e@aol.com>

In a message dated 10/17/2005 9:28:38 PM Pacific Daylight Time, 
NEONRye@aol.com writes:

> Query:  Did Albert Pujols ever take any classes at NU?  He sure  could be a 
> 
> Cardiac 'Cat, couldn't he?  I am not particularly an Astros fan,  but I was 
> rooting for them and their fans to get off of the schneid after 43  years 
> and 
> make the World Series.  Watching that painful ninth inning, all I  could 
> think of 
> was (a) the Boston Red Sox every year until last year (1986 vs.  the Mets 
> comes immediately to mind) and (b) the late Donnie Moore of the Angels  who 
> gave 
> up a similarly ill-timed Gopher Ball and ended up committing  suicide.  I 
> certainly hope Brad Lidge gets a quick chance at  redemption.
> 

Yep--as a Red Sox fan I remember  both  games quite well-, (except I  was the 
one who almost comitted suicide after the Met game!)-This could be a re-run 
of the 1986 CS where the Sox won in Anaheim game 5 one strike away and then 
were able to clock the Angels with the next 2 games at home.  

Just as Kim of Arizona got redemption when the D Backs came back and won  the 
2001 WS and saved his psyche --let's hope Lidge can do the same-

Harry
From rstetson at capps-assoc.com  Tue Oct 18 10:47:57 2005
From: rstetson at capps-assoc.com (Roy Lamberton)
Date: Tue Oct 18 10:50:21 2005
Subject: [NU Sports] Where was Hamlett?
In-Reply-To: <101720051901.27547.4353F51A000270E000006B9B21612436460A0C020E90D2040A0E080C0703@att.net>
Message-ID: <000001c5d3fb$4ff893b0$6500a8c0@DAVIDXP>

I think he had some injury from the Wisconsin game that kept him off the field.

According to this week's release, he's questionable with an ankle sprain.

rsl

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> -----Original Message-----
> From: nwu-sports-bounces@tssi.com 
> [mailto:nwu-sports-bounces@tssi.com] On Behalf Of 
> michael.vance@att.net
> Sent: Monday, October 17, 2005 3:02 PM
> To: nwu-sports@romaine.tssi.com
> Subject: [NU Sports] Where was Hamlett?
> 
> 
> Where was Gerard Hamlett on Saturday?  I noticed before the 
> opening kickoff went up that he was not there, and definitely 
> missed his KOR ability.  Does anyone have the scoop?
> 
> --
> Michael 
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From cp2m at enterprisesw.com  Tue Oct 18 11:30:57 2005
From: cp2m at enterprisesw.com (Chris Patterson)
Date: Tue Oct 18 11:37:15 2005
Subject: [NU Sports] Michigan Game - Tickets Needed
Message-ID: <004b01c5d401$52a15dd0$7000a8c0@Audubon.local>

Hi Everyone,
    I'm in need of one or two tickets for the Michigan game. Thanks!
 
    Go CATS!
Chris Patterson
Knoxville, TN
 
From cp2m at enterprisesw.com  Tue Oct 18 11:59:32 2005
From: cp2m at enterprisesw.com (Chris Patterson)
Date: Tue Oct 18 12:05:53 2005
Subject: [NU Sports] NU vs Michigan State on ESPN2 
Message-ID: <005901c5d405$513d1610$7000a8c0@Audubon.local>

FYI.    NU vs Michigan State on ESPN2 again at noon EST.
 
http://bigten.collegesports.com/sports/m-footbl/spec-rel/082804aad.html
From clzahn at mindspring.com  Tue Oct 18 12:36:32 2005
From: clzahn at mindspring.com (Clark Zahn)
Date: Tue Oct 18 12:40:35 2005
Subject: [NU Sports] NU vs Michigan State on ESPN2
Message-ID: <30543380.1129656992617.JavaMail.root@mswamui-thinleaf.atl.sa.earthlink.net>



-----Original Message-----
From: Chris Patterson <cp2m@enterprisesw.com>
Sent: Oct 18, 2005 9:59 AM
To: NU Sports List <nwu-sports@tssi.com>
Subject: [NU Sports] NU vs Michigan State on ESPN2 

FYI.    NU vs Michigan State on ESPN2 again at noon EST.
 
http://bigten.collegesports.com/sports/m-footbl/spec-rel/082804aad.html
_______________________________________________


Does ESPN really like us?  We seem to be on either ESPN or ESPN2 an  awful lot of the time.  If they do like us why can't they figure out that we are NU and not NW?

Clark Zahn


From cp2m at enterprisesw.com  Tue Oct 18 13:55:22 2005
From: cp2m at enterprisesw.com (Chris Patterson)
Date: Tue Oct 18 14:01:47 2005
Subject: [NU Sports] NU vs Michigan State on ESPN2
In-Reply-To: <30543380.1129656992617.JavaMail.root@mswamui-thinleaf.atl.sa.earthlink.net>
Message-ID: <006a01c5d415$82cbc040$7000a8c0@Audubon.local>

Good point!

It's awesome having the CATS on TV so much (excluding ESPN Plus which costs
$20)!

I have had a few Knoxville friends (SEC Fans) tell me they have watched some
NU games on TV now, too. Sutton & Baz = offense +  interceptions to seal a
game  = ratings. 


-----Original Message-----
From: nwu-sports-bounces@tssi.com [mailto:nwu-sports-bounces@tssi.com] On
Behalf Of Clark Zahn
Sent: Tuesday, October 18, 2005 1:37 PM
To: NU Sports List
Subject: Re: [NU Sports] NU vs Michigan State on ESPN2




-----Original Message-----
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Sent: Oct 18, 2005 9:59 AM
To: NU Sports List <nwu-sports@tssi.com>
Subject: [NU Sports] NU vs Michigan State on ESPN2 

FYI.    NU vs Michigan State on ESPN2 again at noon EST.
 
http://bigten.collegesports.com/sports/m-footbl/spec-rel/082804aad.html
_______________________________________________


Does ESPN really like us?  We seem to be on either ESPN or ESPN2 an  awful
lot of the time.  If they do like us why can't they figure out that we are
NU and not NW?

Clark Zahn


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From artmiller1 at hotmail.com  Tue Oct 18 14:39:49 2005
From: artmiller1 at hotmail.com (Arthur Miller)
Date: Tue Oct 18 14:40:08 2005
Subject: [NU Sports] need parking pass for Michigan game
In-Reply-To: <30543380.1129656992617.JavaMail.root@mswamui-thinleaf.atl.sa.earthlink.net>
Message-ID: <BAY106-DAV9FF726086F4C4BE543F5B8A710@phx.gbl>

I'm looking for a West Lot parking pass for the Michigan game, and am
willing to pay a premium to get one so my group can tailgate.  Let me know
if you have one to sell.

Thanks, and go Wildcats!

Art Miller
artmiller1@hotmail.com


From cp2m at enterprisesw.com  Tue Oct 18 14:47:04 2005
From: cp2m at enterprisesw.com (Chris Patterson)
Date: Tue Oct 18 14:53:28 2005
Subject: [NU Sports] Coaches, Fire Them'all
Message-ID: <006e01c5d41c$bb663e60$7000a8c0@Audubon.local>

Hi Everybody,
    I wrote this email in the week after the PSU game (remember some on this
list were calling for Walker's resignation -- their annual "how-to-solve"
everything).  I have updated this email  (in Blue) after the Purdue game.
I"m not a writer by trade (Tech grad) so I better inform you this email is
meant to be somewhat satirical.
 
    This email is to honor all those select fans that are quick to deliver
the pink slip to their team's coaches.
 
    In any case, let's get on with it and fire some coaches!!
 
    So, by the end of  the first half of the NU-PSU game, the Penn State
nation was more than ready for JoePa to retire! He was 2-6 in the Big Ten
last year and crashing in his first Big 10 game of 2005. Was PSU as bad as
they looked on TV in the first half? Retire JoePa; retire.
 
   That game flip-flopped quickly. NU still hasn't yet learned to put it
away; it's coaching. It's time for Walker to take a hike.
 
    Given the flop in the PSU - NU game, I was surprised no one made any
comments about the Tennessee - LSU game which was remarkable similar to the
PSU-NU game. It was the game UT won in OT a week ago Monday night in Baton
Rouge. Didn't anybody watch it? ...Generally Tennessee football is fairly
boring, so I understand.
 
    In that Monday night game, Tennessee visited Death Valley and their play
was moribund in the first half. Bad? Yes and I've been watching the Vols
(Fulmer) for 10 years now. It was typical Fulmer ball on a bad day. Poor
passing, terrible ownership of the ball (turnovers served up like a buffet).
Needless to say, there were no sleepy heads Tuesday in Knoxville (because
everybody went to bed at the half) and most dreaming that Fulmer would be
retiring in the morning.
 
    But, during the second half, LSU delivered the sugarplums and instead,
on Tuesday, it was Louisiana talk radio getting calls regarding their
coaching staff and the needed hiring/firing changes. We've heard that talk
before (in different accents, of course), "Not putting the game out of
reach... poor coaching, etc, etc".  So, we've fired four coaches now. 
 
    Speaking of flip-flops, ASU was slaughtering the LSU Tigers (first half)
in their prior game, but allowed the Tigers to make the final kill. How did
a powerhouse team like ASU allow that? Obviously poor coaching is not a
regional problem, is it? Five coaches fired now.
 
    But let's just stick to the Big Ten since that is what we really care
about. 
 
    Michigan blows it against Notre Dame. "Too-Conservative" Carr (his
heyday is over); besides Carr makes Fulmer look like Spurrier. And a
Michigan loss to Minnesota!? First time in 20+ years and in the Big House?
Where is Michigan's spread offense? Is Michigan even ranked any more?
 
    Can Michigan State ever beat Michigan (ever?) And this coach even admits
how terrible his coaches are. It's a no brainer here.
 
    Mason is over-rated. He has always had an easy non-conference schedule.
His Big Ten record in 2004 was  3-5!  I've always wondered how he has
managed to stay on so long. Fire him; it's time for a January bowl game! ...
Looks like Mason just won the biggest game of his coaching career. ... even
so I look for Minnesota to fade as usual down the stretch, but because of
Gopher's easy non-C schedule they'll get to play again in December.
 
    Tiller. -- I've always liked what Tiller has done with his talent. But
when was the last time he won the Big Ten? And being in the middle of the
pack isn't good enough any more. It's January or bust! Anybody know of a
nice place in Wyoming? And now Purdue has dropped from being ranked 11th to
losing 4 straight. It's ranch time and I'm not talking salad.
 
    Alveraz - Another coach who I think has done a lot with the talent he
has. Too bad he is retiring.  Oops. I didn't do my historical homework. Any
coach who only has a 50% win percentage against Northwestern should be
retired. What a legacy.
 
    Iowa, Ferentz -- h'mm a preseason favorite for the Big Ten and they've
already lost 2, including against their in-state rival. I think Ferentz
should be on the hot seat. Good-bye unless he smells the Roses.
 
    OSU - Didn't S.T. allude to OSU's loss being due to poor coaching.  Poor
coaching again in the Big Ten.  And OSU's Big Ten record last year was 4-4.
I'm sorry Tressel, but that type of record is like Illinois going 0-11 or
1-10?
   
    Indiana and Illinois -- they are now like the old NU (dead end coaching
careers - four years and out). When was the last time either team had a
winning record in the Big Ten?  I mean, "when was the last time they had a
winning record?", period. No improvement here.
 
    And if you look at at the big picture, since the Big Ten in the last few
years has been unable to consistently beat the non-conference foes... the
conference bosses should be encouraging a change-over of all the Big Ten
coaches. For heaven's sake, we need a national champ out of the Big Ten....
and in something other than lacrosse.  :)
 
    So my hat's off to all those pink slip slinging fans; it's time we get
rid of all 11 Big Ten coaches (unless Ferentz wins the Big Ten)! And in two
years each team will win the conference! (Did I say I have a tech degree?:) 
 
    Or isn't the real point that we are tired of all this imperfection in
college football!  ... Here's a parting idea; maybe college games should all
be played on Sunday? Games played on Sunday always seems to have fewer
errors.  Just a thought. :)
 
 
    Go CATS!  
Chris Patterson
Knoxville, TN
Season ticket holder (Northwestern that is)
NU, Tech '81
UT, Master's, '93
 
PS. The Wildcats are still better entertainment than the Tennessee
Volunteers!
 
 
 
  
 
    
From hakirsch at aol.com  Tue Oct 18 15:05:49 2005
From: hakirsch at aol.com (hakirsch@aol.com)
Date: Tue Oct 18 15:08:09 2005
Subject: [NU Sports] NU vs Michigan State on ESPN2
In-Reply-To: <30543380.1129656992617.JavaMail.root@mswamui-thinleaf.atl.sa.earthlink.net>
References: <30543380.1129656992617.JavaMail.root@mswamui-thinleaf.atl.sa.earthlink.net>
Message-ID: <8C7A236780719CF-784-B6D4@MBLK-M02.sysops.aol.com>

I can tell you one reason--we have alums working there in high places--comes with  good J- and RTF schools ! 
 
-----Original Message-----
From: Clark Zahn <clzahn@mindspring.com>
To: NU Sports List <nwu-sports@tssi.com>
Sent: Tue, 18 Oct 2005 10:36:32 -0700 (GMT-07:00)
Subject: Re: [NU Sports] NU vs Michigan State on ESPN2




-----Original Message-----
From: Chris Patterson <cp2m@enterprisesw.com>
Sent: Oct 18, 2005 9:59 AM
To: NU Sports List <nwu-sports@tssi.com>
Subject: [NU Sports] NU vs Michigan State on ESPN2 

FYI.    NU vs Michigan State on ESPN2 again at noon EST.
 
http://bigten.collegesports.com/sports/m-footbl/spec-rel/082804aad.html
_______________________________________________


Does ESPN really like us?  We seem to be on either ESPN or ESPN2 an  awful lot 
of the time.  If they do like us why can't they figure out that we are NU and 
not NW?

Clark Zahn


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From sjtruog at yahoo.com  Tue Oct 18 16:01:45 2005
From: sjtruog at yahoo.com (SjT (Stephen J. Truog))
Date: Tue Oct 18 16:03:45 2005
Subject: [NU Sports] NU vs Michigan State on ESPN2
In-Reply-To: <30543380.1129656992617.JavaMail.root@mswamui-thinleaf.atl.sa.earthlink.net>
Message-ID: <20051018210145.63164.qmail@web52909.mail.yahoo.com>

> Does ESPN really like us?  We seem to be on either
> ESPN or ESPN2 an  awful lot of the time.  If they do

Well, if they like us, then the ABC/ESPN family likes
Purdue even more. TWO straight 2:30 kickoffs for a
team that hasn't won a Big Ten game yet? Sheesh! They
can't fill their stadium and don't have a big fan base
either. Ugh.

But ESPN and ESPN2 are national, so that's all the
better for us (plus the NIU game on ESPN Classic was
national - so only Ohio and ASU were not national so
far).

I think it's a combo of our exciting offense and games
(though we've had that for the past decade) and ESPN
picking up more Big Ten games. It seems ESPN is taking
more evening and 2:30 or 3:30 Big Ten games and ABC
has had a couple cases of having both an 11 and 2:30
game from the Big Ten as well. So it helps to be in
the league I guess -- with all the TV markets and fan
base the Big Ten has, it certainly helps our exposure.

I'm just thrilled because it means I can see the Cats
again in Arizona on cable. Woohoo!

GO CATS!!! BEAT MSU!!!
-SjT

* * * * * * * * *
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From johnl at mac.com  Tue Oct 18 16:54:11 2005
From: johnl at mac.com (John Labbe)
Date: Tue Oct 18 16:55:14 2005
Subject: [NU Sports] NU vs Michigan State on ESPN2
In-Reply-To: <30543380.1129656992617.JavaMail.root@mswamui-thinleaf.atl.sa.earthlink.net>
References: <30543380.1129656992617.JavaMail.root@mswamui-thinleaf.atl.sa.earthlink.net>
Message-ID: <6712220.1129672451552.JavaMail.johnl@mac.com>

ESPN should like us with our exciting games, but they're also contractually obligated to carry our games.  According to the Big Ten website, every intraconference Big Ten game is televised on ABC or one of the ESPN stations.  So unless we're on ABC, we're either on ESPN, ESPN2, or ESPN Plus.  We've been fortunate so far this year to not be on ESPN Plus yet.  Those appearances on ESPN Classic and ESPNU were nonconference games, so I think those are probably covered differently.

In any event, just to clarify, the game this week is actually at noon EDT, not noon EST, unlike last week when we started at the somewhat unusual hour of noon EST or 1:00 EDT.  The only reason the game was listed last week as noon EST, not 1:00 EDT is because Indiana doesn't observe daylight savings time.  Believe me, I triple checked those times last week before deciding what time I needed to leave Chicago.

If this is all too complicated for you, suffice it to say, the game this week will be on at 11:00 in Chicago, not noon like last week.

Go Cats.

John


On Tuesday, October 18, 2005, at 01:42PM, Clark Zahn <clzahn@mindspring.com> wrote:

>
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: Chris Patterson <cp2m@enterprisesw.com>
>Sent: Oct 18, 2005 9:59 AM
>To: NU Sports List <nwu-sports@tssi.com>
>Subject: [NU Sports] NU vs Michigan State on ESPN2 
>
>FYI.    NU vs Michigan State on ESPN2 again at noon EST.
> 
>http://bigten.collegesports.com/sports/m-footbl/spec-rel/082804aad.html
>_______________________________________________
>
>
>Does ESPN really like us?  We seem to be on either ESPN or ESPN2 an  awful lot of the time.  If they do like us why can't they figure out that we are NU and not NW?
>
>Clark Zahn
>
>
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From nolan at romaine.tssi.com  Tue Oct 18 20:57:26 2005
From: nolan at romaine.tssi.com (Mike Nolan)
Date: Tue Oct 18 20:57:29 2005
Subject: [NU Sports] NU vs Michigan State on ESPN2
In-Reply-To: <20051018210145.63164.qmail@web52909.mail.yahoo.com> from "SjT
	\(Stephen J. Truog\)" at Oct 18, 2005 02:01:45 PM
Message-ID: <200510190157.j9J1vQMe007121@romaine.tssi.com>

> Well, if they like us, then the ABC/ESPN family likes
> Purdue even more. TWO straight 2:30 kickoffs for a
> team that hasn't won a Big Ten game yet? Sheesh! They
> can't fill their stadium and don't have a big fan base
> either. Ugh.

If the choice is between a regional ABC telecast at 2:30 and a national 
telecast on ESPN2 at 11 (central), I think the Cats got the better deal!
--
Mike Nolan

From michael.vance at att.net  Tue Oct 18 21:23:32 2005
From: michael.vance at att.net (Michael Vance)
Date: Tue Oct 18 21:24:19 2005
Subject: [NU Sports] NU vs Michigan State on ESPN2
In-Reply-To: <200510190157.j9J1vQMe007121@romaine.tssi.com>
References: <20051018210145.63164.qmail@web52909.mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <5.2.0.9.0.20051018211808.03f17420@ipostoffice.worldnet.att.net>

I agree.  It used to be that national cable had a smaller potential 
audience than a regional over-the-air broadcast, but I highly doubt that's 
true anymore.  I'm not sure how much of an audience the 11:00 CT games get 
in the Pacific time zone, but the 70% of the population of the country that 
lives in Eastern or Central sure seem to tune in to them.

The late ABC game still has a bit of glamor to it, but that's faded 
somewhat since Keith Jackson stopped doing anything but west coast 
games.  One of my big regrets from 1995 is that I missed PSU@NU on ABC 
because we were in East Lansing for Michigan@MSU.

-Michael

At 10/18/2005 08:57 PM, Mike Nolan wrote:
> > Well, if they like us, then the ABC/ESPN family likes
> > Purdue even more. TWO straight 2:30 kickoffs for a
> > team that hasn't won a Big Ten game yet? Sheesh! They
> > can't fill their stadium and don't have a big fan base
> > either. Ugh.
>
>If the choice is between a regional ABC telecast at 2:30 and a national
>telecast on ESPN2 at 11 (central), I think the Cats got the better deal!
>--
>Mike Nolan

From bwdolphin146 at yahoo.com  Wed Oct 19 02:54:46 2005
From: bwdolphin146 at yahoo.com (Brad Wilson)
Date: Wed Oct 19 02:55:57 2005
Subject: [NU Sports] annoying fans and PA announcers
Message-ID: <20051019075446.74240.qmail@web51301.mail.yahoo.com>

It's funny about this kind of thing. We like the NU PA
announcer -- though I find him over the top -- but my
Wisconsin friends who come to Evanston can't stand
him.

I can't stand Penn State's lion growl but our 'Cat
roar doesn't bother me.

I suspect we like what's "ours" and dislike what
isn't.

On that front, could we get more out-of-town scores
announced at Dyche? BT, ND, Top 25, would be nice. And
about every 15 minutes would be good.

bw

 





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From sjtruog at yahoo.com  Wed Oct 19 02:56:16 2005
From: sjtruog at yahoo.com (SjT (Stephen J. Truog))
Date: Wed Oct 19 02:57:39 2005
Subject: [NU Sports] PIGSKIN PICKS - Standings
Message-ID: <20051019075616.55797.qmail@web52903.mail.yahoo.com>

Well, the BCS beat me by a day, but fall break has
finally allowed me to catch up on the standings for
the season. Hopefully we'll resume our weekly updates
now that I'm caught up. As always, if you have any
questions, e-mail me off-list.

Before we get to the standings, a list of the upset
special picks (fewer than 1/3 of the participants had
'em right) for the year so far ... looks like none of
us could figure out when ND and Michigan would show up
to play either ... :)

Week 1
* Notre Dame over Pitt
* Georgia Tech over Auburn
* Florida State over Miami

Week 2
* Notre Dame over Michigan

Week 3
* Indiana over Kentucky

Week 4
* Wisconsin over Michigan
* Boston College over Clemson
* Tennessee over LSU

Week 5
* Michigan over MSU
* Penn State over Minnesota
* Alabama over Florida

Week 6
* Minnesota over Michigan
* Penn State over Ohio State
* Georgia over Tennessee
* Oregon over Arizona State

Week 7
* Virginia over Florida State
* West Virginia over Louisville

And now the big board ...

TW  Name              Record   Pct.   Upsets  Wks
=================================================
 1) Brad Wilson	      64-21    .753      2      7
 2) Karen Capria      63-22    .741      6      7
 3) John Labbe        62-23    .729      7      7
 4) Jim Bendat        54-21    .720      5      6
 5) Jonathan Hodges   61-24    .718      3      7
 5) Brad May          61-24    .718      3      7
 5) Alan Wolfson      61-24    .718      3      7
 8) Harlan Heiber     32-13    .711      0      3
 9) Stephen Truog     60-25    .706      2      7
10) Chuck Herron      59-26    .694      2      7
10) Bob Schooler      59-26    .694      2      7
10) Eric Steffe       59-26    .694      4      7
13) Thomas Kettler    48-22    .686      6      6
14) Ivars Embrekts    58-27    .682      4      7
14) John Lieske       58-27    .682      3      7
14) Arthur Miller     58-27    .682      6      7
17) Matt Barnard      51-24    .680      1      6
17) Scott Zeller      51-24    .680      4      6
19) Trey McAdams      57-28    .671      1      7
19) David Warner      57-28    .671      3      7
21) Bob Waldele       47-23    .671      2      6
22) Denny Elsen       50-25    .667      2	6
23) Ray Stahl         20-10    .667      0	2
24) John Luken        56-29    .659      2	7
25) Marilyn Zilka     56-29    .659      3	7
26) Bruce Taylor      46-24    .657      3	6
27) Michael Vance     49-26    .653      2	6
28) Phredd Groves     55-30    .647      1	7
29) Sam Wolfson       55-30    .647      6	7
30) Mark Ament        54-31    .635      1	7
31) Ryan Farney       54-31    .635      1	7
32) Kelly Sevilla     54-31    .635      7	7
33) Ty Levine         19-11    .633      1	2
34) Jim Leonard       47-28    .627      5	6
35) Ace McInturff     52-33    .612     10	7
36) Brian Winkler     52-33    .612      1	7
37) Carol Rossi       41-29    .586      3	6
38) Neil Cub          23-17    .575      1	3
39) Jason Singer      43-32    .573      1	6

Picks coming up ...

GO CATS!!!
-SjT

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From sjtruog at yahoo.com  Wed Oct 19 03:09:23 2005
From: sjtruog at yahoo.com (SjT (Stephen J. Truog))
Date: Wed Oct 19 03:10:32 2005
Subject: [NU Sports] PIGSKIN PICKS - Week 8
Message-ID: <20051019080923.199.qmail@web52907.mail.yahoo.com>

A big weekend in SEC country and Big Ten land as these
leagues again show how deep they are by featuring
great matchups week in and week out. We have another
Thursday night game in ACC land, so picks are due by
kickoff Thursday night.

PIGSKIN PICKS - WEEK 8
######################
Name: 

Big Ten
-------
GAME  1: Michigan @ Iowa            WINNER: 
GAME  2: Ohio State @ Indiana       WINNER: 
GAME  3: Penn State @ Illinois      WINNER: 
GAME  4: Purdue @ Wisconsin         WINNER: 

National
--------
GAME  5: Auburn @ LSU               WINNER: 
GAME  6: Tennessee @ Alabama        WINNER: 
GAME  7: Georgia Tech @ Miami (FL)  WINNER: 
GAME  8: Texas Tech @ Texas         WINNER: 
GAME  9: Oregon State @ UCLA        WINNER: 
GAME 10: Virginia Tech @ Maryland   WINNER: 

My Picks
========
* MICHIGAN 27, Iowa 23 - Will the Wolverines finally
put two good games back to back? It'll be tough at
Kinnick, but the Hawks have been feasting on a light
schedule and won't be able to contain Hart.

* OHIO STATE 23, Indiana 7 - Hoosiers are improved,
but not enough to beat the Bucks.

* PENN STATE 34, Illinois 14 - The Nits bounce back
under the lights (and empty seats) of Champaign.

* PURDUE 45, Wisconsin 41 - Dunno why, but I feel that
Bucky's due for a letdown and that Tiller breaks
through finally in league play.

* LSU 20, Auburn 13 - Should be a heck of a game, but
Baton Rouge at night is a tough place to win.

* TENNESSEE 16, Alabama 10 - The Tide will be pumped
at home, but the Vols are battle tested.

* MIAMI 26, Georgia Tech 17 - No upsetting the Canes
this time.

* TEXAS 55, Texas Tech 31 - The Raiders don't have the
horses (or defense) to keep up with the Horns in this
track meet.

* UCLA 37, Oregon State 33 - Bruins need to be careful
and not look ahead to SC just yet.

* VIRGINIA TECH 24, Maryland 10 - Good odds for a
special teams touchdown or two in this one.

And off the board ...

* NORTHWESTERN 41, Michigan State 38 - Another wild
one with the Cats jumping out early while MSU is still
moping and hanging on for dear life late. Should see a
LOT of yardage and big plays. I hope we hang on and
the O doesn't let up!

Remember - picks due by Thursday's kickoff.
GO CATS!!!
-SjT

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From jonathanwhodges at gmail.com  Wed Oct 19 08:03:44 2005
From: jonathanwhodges at gmail.com (Jonathan Hodges)
Date: Wed Oct 19 08:04:51 2005
Subject: [NU Sports] annoying fans and PA announcers
In-Reply-To: <20051019075446.74240.qmail@web51301.mail.yahoo.com>
References: <20051019075446.74240.qmail@web51301.mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <fcb3ee270510190603k251ac2cy9a75b1adf90a0a75@mail.gmail.com>

Obviously the announcers always give a home-team slant and it's hard
to go into another stadium and appreciate their announcers.  I do
agree that the Big Ten/Top 25 scores should be posted more regularly. 
Right now they appear during some timeouts and between the quarters
depending on if a promotion is going on at the time.  I don't see why
they couldn't dedicate one half of the south end zone board to scores
and the other half to the promotion.  Also, the scores sometimes seem
to be delayed significantly at times.  They added the on-the-field
reporter recently as well for the trivia quiz and score reports, which
really doesn't do much in the stands where you can see the whole field
anyways and can't hear it really well.

Jonathan

On 10/19/05, Brad Wilson <bwdolphin146@yahoo.com> wrote:
> It's funny about this kind of thing. We like the NU PA
> announcer -- though I find him over the top -- but my
> Wisconsin friends who come to Evanston can't stand
> him.
>
> I can't stand Penn State's lion growl but our 'Cat
> roar doesn't bother me.
>
> I suspect we like what's "ours" and dislike what
> isn't.
>
> On that front, could we get more out-of-town scores
> announced at Dyche? BT, ND, Top 25, would be nice. And
> about every 15 minutes would be good.
>
> bw
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> "Entertainment is what which you receive without effort. Art is something where you must make some kind of effort, and you get more than you had before." -- Charles Wuorinen
>
> "Quis ipsos custodes custodiet?" -- Juvenal
>
>
>
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From michael.vance at att.net  Wed Oct 19 08:58:18 2005
From: michael.vance at att.net (michael.vance@att.net)
Date: Wed Oct 19 08:59:05 2005
Subject: [NU Sports] annoying fans and PA announcers
Message-ID: <101920051358.5691.435650FA0006B3220000163B21602807480A0C020E90D2040A0E080C0703@att.net>

Michigan State's PA announcer used to be at the opposite extreme.  His tone used to be total deadpan, no matter who had the ball and no matter what they did with it.  He made comedian Steven Wright and Ben Stein's "Bueller... Bueller" look lively.  We haven't been up there in a couple of years, but if I remember correctly, last time we were there he had a little more inflection.  It may have even been a different guy.

And NU's out-of-town score updates are downright frequent compared to what you get at Ross-Ade.  Some Purdue fans were complaining about it before the game last week and sure enough, they were right.

I'm not sure I like the reporter on the field at Dyche though.  It strikes me as someone's RTVF project and without accompanying video (which would make it cool) it doesn't add anything.
 
--
Michael 
mailto:michael@vance.com


-------------- Original message from Jonathan Hodges <jonathanwhodges@gmail.com>: -------------- 


> Obviously the announcers always give a home-team slant and it's hard 
> to go into another stadium and appreciate their announcers. I do 
> agree that the Big Ten/Top 25 scores should be posted more regularly. 
> Right now they appear during some timeouts and between the quarters 
> depending on if a promotion is going on at the time. I don't see why 
> they couldn't dedicate one half of the south end zone board to scores 
> and the other half to the promotion. Also, the scores sometimes seem 
> to be delayed significantly at times. They added the on-the-field 
> reporter recently as well for the trivia quiz and score reports, which 
> really doesn't do much in the stands where you can see the whole field 
> anyways and can't hear it really well. 
> 
> Jonathan 
> 
> On 10/19/05, Brad Wilson wrote: 
> > It's funny about this kind of thing. We like the NU PA 
> > announcer -- though I find him over the top -- but my 
> > Wisconsin friends who come to Evanston can't stand 
> > him. 
> > 
> > I can't stand Penn State's lion growl but our 'Cat 
> > roar doesn't bother me. 
> > 
> > I suspect we like what's "ours" and dislike what 
> > isn't. 
> > 
> > On that front, could we get more out-of-town scores 
> > announced at Dyche? BT, ND, Top 25, would be nice. And 
> > about every 15 minutes would be good. 
> > 
> > bw 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > "Entertainment is what which you receive without effort. Art is something 
> where you must make some kind of effort, and you get more than you had before." 
> -- Charles Wuorinen 
> > 
> > "Quis ipsos custodes custodiet?" -- Juvenal 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > __________________________________ 
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> > 
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> 
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From thiegs at umn.edu  Wed Oct 19 09:24:10 2005
From: thiegs at umn.edu (Joe Thiegs)
Date: Wed Oct 19 09:27:59 2005
Subject: [NU Sports] annoying fans and PA announcers
In-Reply-To: <101920051358.5691.435650FA0006B3220000163B21602807480A0C020E90D2040A0E080C0703@att.net>
Message-ID: <002d01c5d4b8$c6025600$fb326580@jthiegs2003>

I, too, dislike the new on-the-field reports but primarily because they turn
what could be (and used to be) a somewhat suspenseful moment into something
much more boring.  It was a little disappointing for me to see that at the
Wisconsin game.  I'm referring to the way in which the scores are delivered.
I used to love it when the PA announcer would say something like:

"Some updates from around the country:

[Insert team here] 21, Notre Dame [dramatic pause] 7." [crowd cheers]

This could well be done with the student on-the-field reporters.  Just don't
say something as blas? as "Michigan State leads Ohio State 24-21 through
three quarters...."  Instead, a lot more drama can be added simply by
reading the teams and number of points scored with appropriate timing.
Recaps of highlights would be fine after that.  Just don't blow all of the
suspense in the first two words (e.g., "Wisconsin trails....").  Give the
crowd reason to pay attention!

Again, this isn't a knock on the reporters themselves, just the way the
scores have been scripted for delivery so far in this new experiment.

-Joe

-----Original Message-----
From: nwu-sports-bounces@tssi.com [mailto:nwu-sports-bounces@tssi.com] On
Behalf Of michael.vance@att.net
Sent: Wednesday, October 19, 2005 8:58 AM
To: nwu-sports@tssi.com
Subject: Re: [NU Sports] annoying fans and PA announcers


Michigan State's PA announcer used to be at the opposite extreme.  His tone
used to be total deadpan, no matter who had the ball and no matter what they
did with it.  He made comedian Steven Wright and Ben Stein's "Bueller...
Bueller" look lively.  We haven't been up there in a couple of years, but if
I remember correctly, last time we were there he had a little more
inflection.  It may have even been a different guy.

And NU's out-of-town score updates are downright frequent compared to what
you get at Ross-Ade.  Some Purdue fans were complaining about it before the
game last week and sure enough, they were right.

I'm not sure I like the reporter on the field at Dyche though.  It strikes
me as someone's RTVF project and without accompanying video (which would
make it cool) it doesn't add anything.
 
--
Michael 
mailto:michael@vance.com


-------------- Original message from Jonathan Hodges
<jonathanwhodges@gmail.com>: -------------- 


> Obviously the announcers always give a home-team slant and it's hard
> to go into another stadium and appreciate their announcers. I do 
> agree that the Big Ten/Top 25 scores should be posted more regularly. 
> Right now they appear during some timeouts and between the quarters 
> depending on if a promotion is going on at the time. I don't see why 
> they couldn't dedicate one half of the south end zone board to scores 
> and the other half to the promotion. Also, the scores sometimes seem 
> to be delayed significantly at times. They added the on-the-field 
> reporter recently as well for the trivia quiz and score reports, which 
> really doesn't do much in the stands where you can see the whole field 
> anyways and can't hear it really well. 
> 
> Jonathan
> 
> On 10/19/05, Brad Wilson wrote:
> > It's funny about this kind of thing. We like the NU PA
> > announcer -- though I find him over the top -- but my 
> > Wisconsin friends who come to Evanston can't stand 
> > him. 
> > 
> > I can't stand Penn State's lion growl but our 'Cat
> > roar doesn't bother me. 
> > 
> > I suspect we like what's "ours" and dislike what
> > isn't. 
> > 
> > On that front, could we get more out-of-town scores
> > announced at Dyche? BT, ND, Top 25, would be nice. And 
> > about every 15 minutes would be good. 
> > 
> > bw
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > "Entertainment is what which you receive without effort. Art is 
> > something
> where you must make some kind of effort, and you get more than you had 
> before."
> -- Charles Wuorinen 
> > 
> > "Quis ipsos custodes custodiet?" -- Juvenal
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > __________________________________
> > Yahoo! Music Unlimited 
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> > 
> 
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From rstetson at capps-assoc.com  Wed Oct 19 09:30:15 2005
From: rstetson at capps-assoc.com (Roy Lamberton)
Date: Wed Oct 19 09:32:42 2005
Subject: [NU Sports] NU Sports News Digest 10/19
Message-ID: <001801c5d4b9$9f8a81e0$6500a8c0@DAVIDXP>

www.PurpleWildcats.com
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MidWeek Edition

Back to practice for Cats and Spartans, as midterms take hold in Evanston.

                                              All the News that Fits We Link
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FOOTBALL

     Do-what-it-takes Wildcat
 
http://chicagosports.chicagotribune.com/sports/college/cs-051018nu,1,2744392.sto
ry?coll=cs-college-headlines 
     Hard stretch pivotal for Cats' chances
 
http://chicagosports.chicagotribune.com/sports/college/cs-0510180180oct18,1,3801
001.story?coll=cs-college-headlines 
     Baz makes one of these...
     2005 midseason awards
      http://msn.foxsports.com/cfb/story/5003668?CMP=OTC-K9B140813162&ATT=24 
     Inside Slant
      http://msn.foxsports.com/cfb/teamReport?categoryId=86065&type=InsideSlant 
     CFN
      http://www.collegefootballnews.com/Big_Ten/Northwestern.htm 
     Oh Ye of Little Faith...
     Preview: NU at Michigan State
      http://jhodges.org/archives/2005/10/18/66/ 
     Larcom: Enjoy all those crazy ups and downs in the BigTen
 
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     @ Michigan State Spartans
     MSU-Northwestern matchup has makings of offensive show
 
http://news.google.com/url?sa=t&ct=us/2-0&fp=43568f13c9317c50&ei=mTRWQ5fWKMDyFdO
dlK8J&url=http%3A//wwmt.com/engine.pl%3Fstation%3Dwwmt%26id%3D20353%26template%3
Dbreakout_sports.html&cid=1101701382 
     + Spartan secondary still trying to put it together
 
http://www.mlive.com/spartans/stories/index.ssf?/base/sports-0/1129716610181020.
xml&coll=1 
     + Special teams star makes it personal
 
http://www.greenandwhite.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20051019/GW01/510190367/
1023/GW 

Future Big 10 Opponents:

     Michigan Wolverines [10/29 Homecoming]
     Iowa Hawkeyes [11/5]
     @ Ohio State Buckeyes [11/12]
     Illinois Fighting Illini [11/19]

Miscellaneous Football News:

     Room for everyone in conference race
      http://www.suntimes.com/output/campus/cst-spt-big19.html 
     + Not-so-special teams affect games
 
http://www.dailynorthwestern.com/vnews/display.v/ART/2005/10/19/4355e17e6a873 
     + Standings muddled after PSU defeat
 
http://news.google.com/url?sa=t&ct=us/0-1&fp=43564a34b91f7558&ei=ZDVWQ4T8KsGOFsL
r-ZwF&url=http%3A//www.statenews.com/article.phtml%3Fpk%3D32463&cid=1101701382 

     Zook pushing for bye weeks
      http://www.dailysouthtown.com/southtown/dssports/pro/191sd8.htm 

Recruiting

     Top 25 Uncommitted Class of 2006 Basketball Prospects In The State of
Illinois
      http://www.chicagohoops.com/members/uncommitted.html 

BASKETBALL

     Big 10 Notes
     Expectations high for Illini despite key departures
      http://www.dailyherald.com/sports/illinois.asp?id=106849 
     Mike Davis And The Indiana Hoosiers Land 6-10 Turkish Big Man Cem Dinc 
      http://www.indianapolishoops.com/articles/dinc.html 

SOCCER

     Men
     Midterms
 
http://www.dailynorthwestern.com/vnews/display.v/ART/2005/10/19/4355dee4dfd0c 

WRESTLING

     Northwestern Notches National Rankings
      http://www.fansonly.com/schools/nw/sports/m-wrestl/spec-rel/101805aad.html


MISCELLANY



ALUMNI

     Luis Castillo Castillo tackles new role
 
http://chicagosports.chicagotribune.com/sports/college/cs-051018nuside,1,4397912
.story?coll=cs-college-headlines 

     PGA: [Links on Player's Name is their live scorecard]
     Luke Donald - Next scheduled for the Volvo Masters Oct 27th
      http://www.europeantour.com/Tournaments/latest.sps?iTourNo=2005076 

     Miccosukee Championship Next Stop on Nationwide Tour
      http://www.pgatour.com/tournaments/h083 
     Tom Johnson - Tee Times 
     http://www.pgatour.com/tournaments/h083/teetimes 

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From rstetson at capps-assoc.com  Wed Oct 19 09:47:08 2005
From: rstetson at capps-assoc.com (Roy Lamberton)
Date: Wed Oct 19 09:49:22 2005
Subject: [NU Sports] annoying fans and PA announcers
In-Reply-To: <002d01c5d4b8$c6025600$fb326580@jthiegs2003>
Message-ID: <002001c5d4bb$fb2fe4c0$6500a8c0@DAVIDXP>

At the risk of offending those who think I never have much to say....

The on the field guy is probably coming from minor league baseball, where they
have one, sometimes two or three yahoos [a guy and gal, sometimes appearing to
be refugees from the local pop music station] who run around trying to add some
"excitement" with wireless mics doing promotions, etc. Their presence is
primarily about money - the stuff they do is usually a tie-in with sponsors and
ads along the fence. 

As a bit of a PA purist, I find that stuff offensive, but then there are those
who find the pop music that I play between innings at baseball/softball games I
announce offensive, prefering the old theater organ style of music. 

Speaking from personal experience, its still possible to do a credible job at
baseball by yourself, provided you have a good computer scoring program and a
lot of pre-recorded audio. It really helps to have an official scorekeeper
sitting with you, and a scoreboard operator too, altho I've done games where I
was the only guy in the booth.

The role of the Football PA announcer has really changed lately. There's an
article that I linked a few weeks back, about the 4 other people it takes to
coordinate the activities of the PA announcer at one of the Big 10 statia, with
spotters, and stats and getting the paid for announcements done on time, a far
cry from the old "one man and an organist" PA crew at most major league games in
the past. I often thought it would be fun to announce just one NU game, to say
I'd done it, but I'm not sure you can just jump in and do that anymore.

Even the press box at a High School football game almost requires 5 people to
announce, spot, and run the scoreboard. Add coordination of things on the
jumbotron or other video, and it can get tricky.

I really like the one man on the mic idea, one of the best NFL games on TV once
was the one where they just broadcast the PA announcer after each play.

rsl


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From nolan at romaine.tssi.com  Wed Oct 19 10:03:55 2005
From: nolan at romaine.tssi.com (Mike Nolan)
Date: Wed Oct 19 10:03:58 2005
Subject: [NU Sports] annoying fans and PA announcers
In-Reply-To: <002001c5d4bb$fb2fe4c0$6500a8c0@DAVIDXP> from "Roy Lamberton" at
	Oct 19, 2005 10:47:08 AM
Message-ID: <200510191503.j9JF3tU9015195@romaine.tssi.com>

> The role of the Football PA announcer has really changed lately. There's an
> article that I linked a few weeks back, about the 4 other people it takes to
> coordinate the activities of the PA announcer at one of the Big 10 statia, with
> spotters, and stats and getting the paid for announcements done on time, a far
> cry from the old "one man and an organist" PA crew at most major league games in
> the past. I often thought it would be fun to announce just one NU game, to say
> I'd done it, but I'm not sure you can just jump in and do that anymore.

A friend of mine teaches a course at Nebraska for sports journalism.  That's
become a very difficult field, for the reasons Roy cites.  Everybody thinks
they can do play-by-play well, few can, even among those doing it for-real.  

And of course, everybody trying to break into the field wants to be the next
Brent Musberger or Al Michaels, and that's pretty select company.  (Even
those who don't like Brent have to admit he does the job superbly.  Al 
Michaels could broadcast the phone book and make it seem dramatic, though 
IMHO he's slipping in recent years, too much Monday Night Football?) 

I've also seen the commercial log sheet for a typical Nebraska game, it takes 
a real motor-mouth at the mike to get in anything other than promos these days.

The reason for all those promos is the multi-million dollar rights fee
that is associated with a major football school's media contract, though I
have my suspicions that Northwestern gets a lot less than that from WGN,
part of the problem with being in one of the top media markets in the country
and not being a 'draw' either in the stadium or on the airwaves.
--
Mike Nolan

From jonathanwhodges at gmail.com  Wed Oct 19 10:09:03 2005
From: jonathanwhodges at gmail.com (Jonathan Hodges)
Date: Wed Oct 19 10:10:07 2005
Subject: [NU Sports] annoying fans and PA announcers
In-Reply-To: <002001c5d4bb$fb2fe4c0$6500a8c0@DAVIDXP>
References: <002d01c5d4b8$c6025600$fb326580@jthiegs2003>
	<002001c5d4bb$fb2fe4c0$6500a8c0@DAVIDXP>
Message-ID: <fcb3ee270510190809r488c5fe1j7307f1e56a6aee3d@mail.gmail.com>

Since we are discussing thoughts of the way things are run during the
game, I have to commend Wisconsin for showing the replay of every
single play on their multiple video boards during the game.  They do
it for every play, including ones that aren't so good for the home
team.  I think it's good use of the video board since you may not have
a great viewing angle for the play that just happened, or if you just
got back to your seat for some reason.  NU's video board operators
show the replay at times, but it's usually a little delayed.  I think
I like the replay shown after every play, though.

Jonathan

On 10/19/05, Roy Lamberton <rstetson@capps-assoc.com> wrote:
> At the risk of offending those who think I never have much to say....
>
> The on the field guy is probably coming from minor league baseball, where they
> have one, sometimes two or three yahoos [a guy and gal, sometimes appearing to
> be refugees from the local pop music station] who run around trying to add some
> "excitement" with wireless mics doing promotions, etc. Their presence is
> primarily about money - the stuff they do is usually a tie-in with sponsors and
> ads along the fence.
>
> As a bit of a PA purist, I find that stuff offensive, but then there are those
> who find the pop music that I play between innings at baseball/softball games I
> announce offensive, prefering the old theater organ style of music.
>
> Speaking from personal experience, its still possible to do a credible job at
> baseball by yourself, provided you have a good computer scoring program and a
> lot of pre-recorded audio. It really helps to have an official scorekeeper
> sitting with you, and a scoreboard operator too, altho I've done games where I
> was the only guy in the booth.
>
> The role of the Football PA announcer has really changed lately. There's an
> article that I linked a few weeks back, about the 4 other people it takes to
> coordinate the activities of the PA announcer at one of the Big 10 statia, with
> spotters, and stats and getting the paid for announcements done on time, a far
> cry from the old "one man and an organist" PA crew at most major league games in
> the past. I often thought it would be fun to announce just one NU game, to say
> I'd done it, but I'm not sure you can just jump in and do that anymore.
>
> Even the press box at a High School football game almost requires 5 people to
> announce, spot, and run the scoreboard. Add coordination of things on the
> jumbotron or other video, and it can get tricky.
>
> I really like the one man on the mic idea, one of the best NFL games on TV once
> was the one where they just broadcast the PA announcer after each play.
>
> rsl
>
>
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From thiegs at umn.edu  Wed Oct 19 10:27:32 2005
From: thiegs at umn.edu (Joe Thiegs)
Date: Wed Oct 19 10:33:09 2005
Subject: [NU Sports] annoying fans and PA announcers
In-Reply-To: <002001c5d4bb$fb2fe4c0$6500a8c0@DAVIDXP>
Message-ID: <003701c5d4c1$a060eb10$fb326580@jthiegs2003>

Roy, I didn't get the impression that this is one of those deals, but maybe
I didn't pay attention to the plug at the end if there was one.  It seemed
to me that they were from Medill's student broadcast news program or
something of the sort (they were wearing sportscoats and ties).  I really
don't mind it as a concept; I just didn't care for the way the updates were
presented.  -Joe

-----Original Message-----
From: Roy Lamberton [mailto:rstetson@capps-assoc.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, October 19, 2005 9:47 AM
To: 'Joe Thiegs'; michael.vance@att.net; nwu-sports@tssi.com
Subject: RE: [NU Sports] annoying fans and PA announcers


<snip>

The on the field guy is probably coming from minor league baseball, where
they have one, sometimes two or three yahoos [a guy and gal, sometimes
appearing to be refugees from the local pop music station] who run around
trying to add some "excitement" with wireless mics doing promotions, etc.
Their presence is primarily about money - the stuff they do is usually a
tie-in with sponsors and ads along the fence. 

</snip>



From rstetson at capps-assoc.com  Wed Oct 19 10:44:04 2005
From: rstetson at capps-assoc.com (Roy Lamberton)
Date: Wed Oct 19 10:46:19 2005
Subject: [NU Sports] annoying fans and PA announcers
In-Reply-To: <003701c5d4c1$a060eb10$fb326580@jthiegs2003>
Message-ID: <002101c5d4c3$ef3eaae0$6500a8c0@DAVIDXP>

NU sells the signage at Ryan and I have to assume they also sell spots on the
video system too.

As I recall, the folks who are responsible for that fund raising used to be
members of this list server so I'm sure your constructive criticism has already
been noted ;)

For the record, I don't have a problem with NU making a few more bucks for the
athletic dept thru stadium announcements. I just wonder about the presentation,
and the eventual change from kids in suits and ties to guys in sweatshirts
jumping around the sidelines between plays trying to stir up more excitement.

Thank goodness that WGN hasn't decided to put a field guy out talking to fans
the way some of the NFL teams have done recently. Talk about a distraction. 

The excitement is supposed to be down on the field.

rsl

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> 
> Roy, I didn't get the impression that this is one of those 
> deals, but maybe I didn't pay attention to the plug at the 
> end if there was one.  It seemed to me that they were from 
> Medill's student broadcast news program or something of the 
> sort (they were wearing sportscoats and ties).  I really 
> don't mind it as a concept; I just didn't care for the way 
> the updates were presented.  -Joe
> 
>

From rstetson at capps-assoc.com  Wed Oct 19 11:00:12 2005
From: rstetson at capps-assoc.com (Roy Lamberton)
Date: Wed Oct 19 11:02:37 2005
Subject: [NU Sports] annoying fans and PA announcers
In-Reply-To: <002101c5d4c3$ef3eaae0$6500a8c0@DAVIDXP>
Message-ID: <002401c5d4c6$30602e70$6500a8c0@DAVIDXP>

I should correct the one paragraph below - the way some of the the NFL radio
broadcast stations have done...

rsl

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> 
> Thank goodness that WGN hasn't decided to put a field guy out 
> talking to fans the way some of the NFL teams have done 
> recently. Talk about a distraction. 

From tkmaycock at yahoo.com  Wed Oct 19 11:05:48 2005
From: tkmaycock at yahoo.com (Tom Maycock)
Date: Wed Oct 19 11:09:22 2005
Subject: [NU Sports] annoying fans and PA announcers
In-Reply-To: <002101c5d4c3$ef3eaae0$6500a8c0@DAVIDXP>
Message-ID: <20051019160548.37360.qmail@web33103.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

--- Roy Lamberton <rstetson@capps-assoc.com> wrote:
> NU sells the signage at Ryan and I have to assume they also sell
> spots on the
> video system too.

There's definitely advertising both on the board and via the PA, not to
mention sponsored promotions (like the pass, punt, and kick
competition, etc.), nothing new there. And I don't really have a
problem with it.

With respect to the score updates (and the trivia quiz), those are now
being delivered by some who I definitely think is a student, who
appears on the big screen. He's usually stationed up on the "touchdown
terrace" part of the time and in the south endzone part of the time.
Scores are also shown on both the north and south scoreboards--and more
frequently now than in the past. 

The student does an OK job with the updates, but until it was mentioned
here, it didn't occur to me how much I enjoyed our wonderful PA
announcer's suspenseful delivery of the "big" scores. I'll bet he
misses doing them. 

But I would agree that we don't need boneheaded fan interviews,
fireworks or other artificial noisemakers, or any of the other stuff
that is becoming all too prevelant at professional stadiums. 

Tom



From cp2m at enterprisesw.com  Tue Oct 18 10:58:57 2005
From: cp2m at enterprisesw.com (Chris Patterson)
Date: Wed Oct 19 11:12:21 2005
Subject: [NU Sports] TV:  NU vs Michigan State on ESPN2 
Message-ID: <003a01c5d3fc$dd1c35c0$7000a8c0@Audubon.local>

vs Michigan State on ESPN2 again at noon EST.
 
http://bigten.collegesports.com/sports/m-footbl/spec-rel/082804aad.html
From Sanford_Stein at rush.edu  Wed Oct 19 11:09:14 2005
From: Sanford_Stein at rush.edu (Sanford_Stein@rush.edu)
Date: Wed Oct 19 11:17:39 2005
Subject: [NU Sports] annoying fans and PA announcers
In-Reply-To: <20051019160548.37360.qmail@web33103.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <OF229E8119.37F38001-ON8625709F.005849F5-8625709F.0059542C@rsh.net>





I attended the Michigan-Penn State game last week at the
"Big House" in Ann Arbor.  There is NO advertising anywhere--
not on billboards nor the scoreboard nor over the PA system.
I know that their revenue stream situation cannot be compared
to Northwestern's, but still . . . it was WONDERFUL.

The two scoreboards do replays, but ONLY for plays that were
positive for Michigan--none of the Penn State touchdowns or
negative-yardage defensive plays were shown.

                  SS



                                                                           
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--- Roy Lamberton <rstetson@capps-assoc.com> wrote:
> NU sells the signage at Ryan and I have to assume they also sell
> spots on the
> video system too.

There's definitely advertising both on the board and via the PA, not to
mention sponsored promotions (like the pass, punt, and kick
competition, etc.), nothing new there. And I don't really have a
problem with it.





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From nolan at romaine.tssi.com  Wed Oct 19 11:52:57 2005
From: nolan at romaine.tssi.com (Mike Nolan)
Date: Wed Oct 19 11:53:01 2005
Subject: [NU Sports] annoying fans and PA announcers (fwd)
Message-ID: <200510191652.j9JGqvCL016570@romaine.tssi.com>

> I think
> I like the replay shown after every play, though.

I wonder if the NCAA is going to stick its nose into this issue because of
instant replay?  
--
Mike Nolan

From jonathanwhodges at gmail.com  Wed Oct 19 12:46:15 2005
From: jonathanwhodges at gmail.com (Jonathan Hodges)
Date: Wed Oct 19 12:47:20 2005
Subject: [NU Sports] annoying fans and PA announcers (fwd)
In-Reply-To: <200510191652.j9JGqvCL016570@romaine.tssi.com>
References: <200510191652.j9JGqvCL016570@romaine.tssi.com>
Message-ID: <fcb3ee270510191046l26322c8el866fe7fe3cc95cb3@mail.gmail.com>

I think the only issue with replay is that they are not allowed to
show the replay on the video board when the play is being officially
reviewed by the technical advisor.  Showing the replay after every
play does not affect this as long as they stop it when the referee
calls the review timeout on the field.

Actually, last year in our game at Wisconsin, we had a catch (by
Herbert) overturned because he stepped out of bounds.  The play was
called a catch on the field but then the replay on the video screens
showed that his foot was out of bounds, and of course the crowd
started booing like crazy.  The play was subsequently reviewed and the
call on the field overturned.

I don't think showing the replay on the board will affect the
review/replay at all since the technical advisor watches every play in
the booth on the system they have set up.  They are taking time to
review every close play, which I believe is a good system so that
there is no bias to eitehr side and you don't have to worry about
coaches using timeouts or whatever.

Jonathan

On 10/19/05, Mike Nolan <nolan@romaine.tssi.com> wrote:
> > I think
> > I like the replay shown after every play, though.
>
> I wonder if the NCAA is going to stick its nose into this issue because of
> instant replay?
> --
> Mike Nolan
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From Hakirsch at aol.com  Wed Oct 19 13:51:06 2005
From: Hakirsch at aol.com (Hakirsch@aol.com)
Date: Wed Oct 19 13:55:04 2005
Subject: [NU Sports] (no subject)
Message-ID: <1f0.46afd32a.3087ef9a@aol.com>

How co-incidental !

--The person who was astute enough to remind us to distinguish between EST 
and EDT  might be interested in reading the front page of today's WSJ outlining 
Indiana's time zone problem--Good timing ! 
From spiritu at northwestern.edu  Wed Oct 19 14:20:07 2005
From: spiritu at northwestern.edu (Jonathan Michael Hawkins)
Date: Wed Oct 19 14:21:24 2005
Subject: [NU Sports] annoying fans and PA announcers (fwd)
In-Reply-To: <fcb3ee270510191046l26322c8el866fe7fe3cc95cb3@mail.gmail.com>
References: <200510191652.j9JGqvCL016570@romaine.tssi.com>
	<fcb3ee270510191046l26322c8el866fe7fe3cc95cb3@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.64.0510191411210.14662@localhost>

> I think the only issue with replay is that they are not allowed to
> show the replay on the video board when the play is being officially
> reviewed by the technical advisor.

...which is absolutely ridiculous.  I *hate* having to wait until I get 
home to make a determination for myself whether or not the replay showed 
anything.

I just don't buy the "we don't want to get the fans riled up" excuse.  It 
seems pansy and pandering.

We're not all troglodytes in the Big Ten.  Well, except for those idiots 
who seem to burn down East Lansing at the drop of a hat during the 
basketball season.

http://www.detnews.com/2003/schools/0304/02/e07w-125618.htm
<http://www.detnews.com/2003/schools/0304/02/e07w-125618.htm>

Anyhoo, let's beat their Spartans this weekend.

Go 'Cats,

Jonathan

From nolan at romaine.tssi.com  Wed Oct 19 14:59:29 2005
From: nolan at romaine.tssi.com (Mike Nolan)
Date: Wed Oct 19 14:59:32 2005
Subject: [NU Sports] annoying fans and PA announcers (fwd)
Message-ID: <200510191959.j9JJxT0O018939@romaine.tssi.com>

> > I think the only issue with replay is that they are not allowed to
> > show the replay on the video board when the play is being officially
> > reviewed by the technical advisor.
> 
> ...which is absolutely ridiculous.  I *hate* having to wait until I get 
> home to make a determination for myself whether or not the replay showed 
> anything.
> 
> I just don't buy the "we don't want to get the fans riled up" excuse.  It 
> seems pansy and pandering.

That's why it won't surprise me if the NCAA tries to set some rules, they
excel in trying to regulate the unregulatable.  

See the NCAA football rulebook on 'excessive celebration' and 'sideline 
warnings' for classic examples.  

BTW, a STRICT enforcement of the rulebook would have required Penn State 
to have been found guilty of having too many players (and coaches) on the 
field when they scored the winning TD against us a few weeks ago, the 
replay angle from the endzone CLEARLY showed a dozen or more players 
and coaches on the field, including JoePa, when the receiver was still 
at the 5 yard line.  Did they even get an 'excessive celebration' penalty?

IMHO, one of the dumber NCAA regulations in recent years is to limit the
number of pages in a school's media guide.
--
Mike Nolan

From cherron604 at aol.com  Wed Oct 19 16:59:52 2005
From: cherron604 at aol.com (cherron604@aol.com)
Date: Wed Oct 19 17:03:51 2005
Subject: [NU Sports] annoying fans and PA announcers
In-Reply-To: <fcb3ee270510190603k251ac2cy9a75b1adf90a0a75@mail.gmail.com>
References: <20051019075446.74240.qmail@web51301.mail.yahoo.com>
	<fcb3ee270510190603k251ac2cy9a75b1adf90a0a75@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <8C7A30F9149FF36-CA0-2A74@FWM-R38.sysops.aol.com>

 AMEN !
 
Whoever's son, son-in-law, nephew or boyfriend he might be, WE HAVE TO LOSE THE SIDELINE REPORTER !
 
We don't need him to describe the game for us - we have all been watching it.
 
The audio quality is horrible - all kinds of interference and 'slap-back' as you hear everything twice
 
I have been to games all over the country - nobody else does this.
 
Is there an inside story ?  Does anybody know, is this guy somebody connected ?  Are the higher-ups pulling strings to get this guy a plum job somewhere ?
 
Just show the scores - Top 25, Big Ten, other 'name schools' (I remember the late 80s-early 90s, when you were much more likely to hear a Farleigh Dickinson-Lehigh score at old Dyche), and have the PA announcer read them clearly.  Plus the crowd always appreciates a dramatic pause, or the score given in reverse (i.e. 'And from South Bend...Notre Dame 31, Southern Cal...(dramatic pause)...34 !' followed by much cheering).
 
Just lose the 'sideline reporter', PLEASE !
 
Chuck Herron   Tech '85  
 
-----Original Message-----
From: Jonathan Hodges <jonathanwhodges@gmail.com>
To: Brad Wilson <bwdolphin146@yahoo.com>
Cc: nwu-sports@tssi.com
Sent: Wed, 19 Oct 2005 08:03:44 -0500
Subject: Re: [NU Sports] annoying fans and PA announcers


Obviously the announcers always give a home-team slant and it's hard
to go into another stadium and appreciate their announcers.  I do
agree that the Big Ten/Top 25 scores should be posted more regularly. 
Right now they appear during some timeouts and between the quarters
depending on if a promotion is going on at the time.  I don't see why
they couldn't dedicate one half of the south end zone board to scores
and the other half to the promotion.  Also, the scores sometimes seem
to be delayed significantly at times.  They added the on-the-field
reporter recently as well for the trivia quiz and score reports, which
really doesn't do much in the stands where you can see the whole field
anyways and can't hear it really well.

Jonathan

On 10/19/05, Brad Wilson <bwdolphin146@yahoo.com> wrote:
> It's funny about this kind of thing. We like the NU PA
> announcer -- though I find him over the top -- but my
> Wisconsin friends who come to Evanston can't stand
> him.
>
> I can't stand Penn State's lion growl but our 'Cat
> roar doesn't bother me.
>
> I suspect we like what's "ours" and dislike what
> isn't.
>
> On that front, could we get more out-of-town scores
> announced at Dyche? BT, ND, Top 25, would be nice. And
> about every 15 minutes would be good.
>
> bw
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> "Entertainment is what which you receive without effort. Art is something 
where you must make some kind of effort, and you get more than you had before." 
-- Charles Wuorinen
>
> "Quis ipsos custodes custodiet?" -- Juvenal
>
>
>
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From MHRJGScott at aol.com  Wed Oct 19 17:28:41 2005
From: MHRJGScott at aol.com (MHRJGScott@aol.com)
Date: Wed Oct 19 17:41:26 2005
Subject: [NU Sports] Girardi 
Message-ID: <104.6b77f73f.30882299@aol.com>

Joe Girardi will become the _Florida Marlins_ 
(http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/clubhouse?team=fla) ' new manager, the team announced  Wednesday. He'll be 
introduced by the Marlins at a news conference Thursday. 
 
Is he the first Wildcat major league manager?
From bondscoop at megapathdsl.net  Wed Oct 19 17:26:20 2005
From: bondscoop at megapathdsl.net (Michael Jackson)
Date: Wed Oct 19 17:47:49 2005
Subject: [NU Sports] Joe Girardi
Message-ID: <002901c5d4fc$24e06520$0302a8c0@Mike>

Joe Girardi has been appointed the new manager for the Florida Marlins.
It couldn't happen to a nicer guy.  
From nolan at romaine.tssi.com  Wed Oct 19 17:50:21 2005
From: nolan at romaine.tssi.com (Mike Nolan)
Date: Wed Oct 19 17:50:25 2005
Subject: [NU Sports] Girardi (fwd)
Message-ID: <200510192250.j9JMoLAx020555@romaine.tssi.com>

> Joe Girardi will become the _Florida Marlins_ 
> (http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/clubhouse?team=fla) ' new manager, the team announced  Wednesday. He'll be 
> introduced by the Marlins at a news conference Thursday. 
>  
> Is he the first Wildcat major league manager?

Probably in baseball.  Or does George Steinbrenner count?  :-)

I'd offer Joe my congratulations, but I'm not sure I'd wish the Marlins job 
on my worst enemy.  It's got to be the only job in baseball worse than managing
the Cubs.  
--
Mike Nolan

From Hakirsch at aol.com  Wed Oct 19 17:54:17 2005
From: Hakirsch at aol.com (Hakirsch@aol.com)
Date: Wed Oct 19 17:55:47 2005
Subject: [NU Sports] Girardi (fwd)
Message-ID: <1d8.4801e224.30882899@aol.com>

In a message dated 10/19/2005 3:50:51 PM Pacific Daylight Time, 
nolan@romaine.tssi.com writes:

> 
> >Joe Girardi will become the _Florida Marlins_ 
> >(http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/clubhouse?team=fla) ' new manager, the team 
> announced  Wednesday. He'll be 
> >introduced by the Marlins at a news conference Thursday. 
> > 
> >Is he the first Wildcat major league manager?
> 
> Probably in baseball.  Or does George Steinbrenner count?  :-)
> 
> I'd offer Joe my congratulations, but I'm not sure I'd wish the Marlins job 
> on my worst enemy.  It's got to be the only job in baseball worse than 
> managing
> the Cubs.  
> --
> Mike Nolan
> 

Great for Joe--class act and we should all be proud of him--More good press 
for NU student /athlete also 

As for Steinbrenner, he  may have coached at NU , but  no way would we want 
to claim him--Williams  College can have that  dubious honor !


Harry
From NEONRye at aol.com  Wed Oct 19 18:13:30 2005
From: NEONRye at aol.com (NEONRye@aol.com)
Date: Wed Oct 19 18:17:24 2005
Subject: [NU Sports] Girardi (fwd)
Message-ID: <12b.67edc1a6.30882d1a@aol.com>

My friend Lori Chase, who was a contemporary of Joe G. at NU, and who was  
the first President and driving force behind the establishment of the  
Northwestern University Entertainment Alliance East (NUEA), based in NYC,  introduced 
him to his wife, her good friend and, I believe sorority sister, at  NU.  So 
Joe's NU roots run very deep indeed.
 
Paul Levinson
From MHRJGScott at aol.com  Wed Oct 19 19:01:25 2005
From: MHRJGScott at aol.com (MHRJGScott@aol.com)
Date: Wed Oct 19 19:05:26 2005
Subject: [NU Sports] Girardi (fwd)
Message-ID: <215.bdf1b12.30883855@aol.com>

 
:I'd offer Joe my congratulations, but I'm not sure I'd wish the Marlins  job 
on my worst enemy.  It's got to be the only job in baseball worse  than 
managing
the Cubs.  
--
Mike Nolan




Uh Mike, our Marlins have won 2 world series titles in the past 8  years.  
Let's see the Cubs won in 1918.  Go  Joe!!
From nolan at romaine.tssi.com  Wed Oct 19 19:15:16 2005
From: nolan at romaine.tssi.com (Mike Nolan)
Date: Wed Oct 19 19:15:19 2005
Subject: [NU Sports] Girardi (fwd)
Message-ID: <200510200015.j9K0FGHS021583@romaine.tssi.com>

> Uh Mike, our Marlins have won 2 world series titles in the past 8  years.  
> Let's see the Cubs won in 1918.  Go  Joe!!

Uh, what happened to the managers of those world series champion teams?

The team is doing fairly well, possibly the best expansion team in major sports
history, so why has the team had 7 managers in 13 years?

Don't sign any long term apartment leases, Joe.
--
Mike Nolan

From Hakirsch at aol.com  Wed Oct 19 19:08:07 2005
From: Hakirsch at aol.com (Hakirsch@aol.com)
Date: Wed Oct 19 19:20:48 2005
Subject: [NU Sports] Girardi (fwd)
Message-ID: <13e.1e2fd65a.308839e7@aol.com>

In a message dated 10/19/2005 5:06:43 PM Pacific Daylight Time, 
MHRJGScott@aol.com writes:

> 
> Uh Mike, our Marlins have won 2 world series titles in the past 8  years.  
> Let's see the Cubs won in 1918.  Go  Joe!!
> 

Sorry the Cubs only won the pennant in 1918--Red Sox won WS that year behind 
a pitcher named Ruth
From MHRJGScott at aol.com  Wed Oct 19 21:08:09 2005
From: MHRJGScott at aol.com (MHRJGScott@aol.com)
Date: Wed Oct 19 21:09:36 2005
Subject: [NU Sports] Girardi (fwd)
Message-ID: <ae.7c81cac7.30885609@aol.com>

 
the Cubs only won the pennant in 1918--Red Sox won WS that year behind a  
pitcher named Ruth


 
 
Sorry, 1908, what's 10 years of losing when you are the lovable  losers.
Go go white sox.

From michael.vance at att.net  Wed Oct 19 23:57:21 2005
From: michael.vance at att.net (Michael Vance)
Date: Thu Oct 20 00:29:19 2005
Subject: [NU Sports] annoying fans and PA announcers (fwd)
In-Reply-To: <fcb3ee270510191046l26322c8el866fe7fe3cc95cb3@mail.gmail.co
 m>
References: <200510191652.j9JGqvCL016570@romaine.tssi.com>
	<200510191652.j9JGqvCL016570@romaine.tssi.com>
Message-ID: <5.2.0.9.0.20051019235353.03dc40d0@ipostoffice.worldnet.att.net>

At 10/19/2005 12:46 PM, Jonathan Hodges wrote:
>I think the only issue with replay is that they are not allowed to
>show the replay on the video board when the play is being officially
>reviewed by the technical advisor.  Showing the replay after every
>play does not affect this as long as they stop it when the referee
>calls the review timeout on the field.

I didn't think there was a rule on this.  I didn't have a constant clear 
view of the JumboTron at Purdue (I was sitting more or less under it), but 
thanks to their annoying "whoosh" sound effect whenever they started 
showing a reply, I was able to tell that they showed fairly immediate 
replays for everything, including plays that were reviewed.  Maybe they got 
the reply in soon enough before the end of the play that the review hadn't 
started yet, but I thought that they showed a couple (re-replayed them) 
while they were actually under review.  The goal line fumble on Purdue's 
first drive and Baz getting tackled at the one on our last drive come to mind.

-Michael 

From rstetson at capps-assoc.com  Thu Oct 20 07:24:52 2005
From: rstetson at capps-assoc.com (Roy Lamberton)
Date: Thu Oct 20 07:27:17 2005
Subject: [NU Sports] Girardi (fwd)
In-Reply-To: <200510200015.j9K0FGHS021583@romaine.tssi.com>
Message-ID: <000501c5d571$457f0460$6500a8c0@DAVIDXP>

The new owner of the Marlins after the first WS sold off the team.

The manager left soon after he couldn't win with the new improved team.

rsl

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> -----Original Message-----
> From: nwu-sports-bounces@tssi.com 
> [mailto:nwu-sports-bounces@tssi.com] On Behalf Of Mike Nolan
> Sent: Wednesday, October 19, 2005 8:15 PM
> To: nwu-sports@romaine.tssi.com
> Subject: Re: [NU Sports] Girardi (fwd)
> 
> 
> > Uh Mike, our Marlins have won 2 world series titles in the past 8  
> > years.
> > Let's see the Cubs won in 1918.  Go  Joe!!
> 
> Uh, what happened to the managers of those world series 
> champion teams?
> 
> The team is doing fairly well, possibly the best expansion 
> team in major sports history, so why has the team had 7 
> managers in 13 years?
> 
> Don't sign any long term apartment leases, Joe.
> --
> Mike Nolan
> 
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From MHRJGScott at aol.com  Thu Oct 20 15:21:34 2005
From: MHRJGScott at aol.com (MHRJGScott@aol.com)
Date: Thu Oct 20 15:25:28 2005
Subject: [NU Sports] Girardi (fwd)
Message-ID: <21c.8034a1.3089564e@aol.com>

Born to manage
 
_http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/news/story?id=2197491_ 
(http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/news/story?id=2197491) 
From Willie.Weinbaum at espn.com  Thu Oct 20 17:34:36 2005
From: Willie.Weinbaum at espn.com (Weinbaum, Willie)
Date: Thu Oct 20 17:36:55 2005
Subject: [NU Sports] Girardi story/Wildcat history
Message-ID: <CB1AAC9F8648B145AF7A09385AE590D90E74CEC3@xchgnym1.corp.espn.pvt>

What other NU alums became MLB managers or head coaches in the pros
(NBA, AFL/NFL, NHL)?

--Paddy Driscoll, NFL (Bears) - - he was a Hall of Fame NFL player and
also played major league baseball for the Cubs!  
http://www.azcardinals.com/history/legacy.html?sid=39 &
http://www.chicagobears.com/history/hof-driscoll.jsp &
http://www.baseball-almanac.com/players/player.php?p=driscpa01

--Otto Graham, NFL (Redskins) - -
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Otto_Graham

--Joe Collier, AFL (Bills) - -
http://www.jt-sw.com/football/pro/players.nsf/ID/04700001

--Rick Venturi, NFL (brief stints as head coach of Colts & Saints, well
after 1-31-1 record as head coach at NU) - - 
http://www.neworleanssaints.com/coachbio.cfm?coachid=32

Who else, if anybody?

NU, of course, has had non-alum head coaches & assistant coaches who
went on to become pro head coaches (examples: Lou Saban, Dennis Green,
Jeff Bzdelik, Kevin O'Neill).  George Steinbrenner was an NU football
assistant coach who became a pro team owner - not just of the Yankees,
but of the American Basketball League's Cleveland Pipers (they were not
at the level of the NBA, but had many interesting aspects:
http://www.absoluteastronomy.com/encyclopedia/a/am/american_basketball_l
eague_1961-63.htm)

Of interest, though he didn't fit the bill...

NU's baseball coach from 1947-60, Fred Lindstrom, was a Hall of Fame
major league player, but neither an NU alum nor a manager in the big
leagues (his son, Chuck, played for NU & made it to the majors) - - 
http://www.hickoksports.com/biograph/lindstromfred.shtml &
http://www.baseball-reference.com/l/lindsfr01.shtml

Parting notes...

Jay Hook achieved notoriety with the original Mets:
http://www.baseballlibrary.com/baseballlibrary/ballplayers/H/Hook_Jay.st
m & http://www.baseball-reference.com/h/hookja01.shtml

A site that claims to list all NU players who made it to the majors:
http://www.baseball-almanac.com/college/northwestern_university_baseball
_players.shtml

One of the great baseball quotes came from George McKinnon, the longtime
NU baseball coach.  He said, after an opponent scored a double-figure
rout of the Cats (not a rare occurrence), "their balls had eyes."


From prplehaze at insightbb.com  Thu Oct 20 20:02:10 2005
From: prplehaze at insightbb.com (Mark S. Ament)
Date: Thu Oct 20 20:34:35 2005
Subject: [NU Sports] Unitas Award
Message-ID: <43583E12.6060009@insightbb.com>

Baz was named today as one of the seven finalists for the Johnny Unitas 
Golden Arm Award which is given annually to the best senior quarterback 
in the country.

http://www.courier-journal.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20051020/SPORTS/510200447/1002/SPORTS

-- 
Mark

Mark S. Ament
http://thesportsbizblog.blogspot.com


From jleonard518 at yahoo.com  Fri Oct 21 07:41:44 2005
From: jleonard518 at yahoo.com (Jim Leonard)
Date: Fri Oct 21 07:42:51 2005
Subject: [NU Sports] MSU - Michigan State Upset?
In-Reply-To: <200510192250.j9JMoLAx020555@romaine.tssi.com>
Message-ID: <20051021124144.2792.qmail@web30304.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

Fellow Wildcat Faithful,

It's "Beat the Spartans Saturday!"

I am personnally think the Cats are going to come up short this week and rally
for a huge Homecoming victory over Michigan. 

Does anyone out there disagree? I'd really like to be wrong on this one.

Victory & Honor,
Jim


		
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From jmccull at insight.rr.com  Fri Oct 21 08:31:53 2005
From: jmccull at insight.rr.com (J.R. McCullough)
Date: Fri Oct 21 08:31:58 2005
Subject: [NU Sports] MSU - Michigan State Upset?
References: <20051021124144.2792.qmail@web30304.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <000e01c5d643$ccd6cfb0$6601a8c0@jroffice01>

Jim -- I can't say I'm optimistic about this weekend, but I have learned to 
never count out the team with Basanez at the helm. If we can force a few 
turnovers and keep the pedal down on offense, we will have a shot. This is 
going to be one of those games where the team that punts most will lose.

I certainly hope you're right about next week, though. My wife and I are 
coming up for the game, and are hoping for a magical night light the one in 
2000.

J.R.

P.S. Great story in the Daily Herald today about Basanez: 
http://www.dailyherald.com/sports/northwestern.asp?id=109035 

From rstetson at capps-assoc.com  Fri Oct 21 09:09:05 2005
From: rstetson at capps-assoc.com (Roy Lamberton)
Date: Fri Oct 21 09:11:41 2005
Subject: [NU Sports] NU Sports News Digest 10/21
Message-ID: <000d01c5d648$ffa63840$6500a8c0@DAVIDXP>

www.PurpleWildcats.com
for Purple Reign
& the NU Sports List

Friday Edition

Back to practice for Cats and Spartans, as midterms take hold in Evanston.
Alumni in the news, plus the Fall sports pickup.
                                                                  All the News
that Fits We Link
                                                                      Your Index
to News about
                                                                    Northwestern
University Athletics


FOOTBALL

     Cats hope new road routine works again
 
http://chicagosports.chicagotribune.com/sports/college/northwestern/cs-051020017
4oct20,1,6192636.story?coll=cs-college-nwestern-print 
     + Walker trying to keep NU focused on Spartans
      http://www.suntimes.com/output/campus/cst-spt-crep21.html 
     + Hard stretch pivotal for Cats' chances
 
http://chicagosports.chicagotribune.com/sports/college/cs-0510180180oct18,1,3801
001.story?coll=cs-college-headlines 
     + Walker refuses to think beyond Michigan State
 
http://www.pioneerlocal.com/cgi-bin/ppo-story/sports/current/ev/10-20-05-719900.
html 
     + Wildcats heed Walker's wishes about turnovers
      http://www.dailyherald.com/sports/northwestern.asp?id=107968 

     Player Stories: Cofield
     Do-what-it-takes Wildcat
 
http://chicagosports.chicagotribune.com/sports/college/cs-051018nu,1,2744392.sto
ry?coll=cs-college-headlines 
     Basanez glad to follow in Kustok's footsteps
      http://www.dailyherald.com/sports/northwestern.asp?id=109035 
     Baz makes one of these...
     2005 midseason awards
      http://msn.foxsports.com/cfb/story/5003668?CMP=OTC-K9B140813162&ATT=24 
     Tim McGarigle Tabbed One of 10 Butkus Award Semifinalists
      http://www.fansonly.com/schools/nw/sports/m-footbl/spec-rel/102005aaa.html

     Inside Slant
      http://msn.foxsports.com/cfb/teamReport?categoryId=86065&type=InsideSlant 
     CFN
      http://www.collegefootballnews.com/Big_Ten/Northwestern.htm 
     Oh Ye of Little Faith...
     Preview: NU at Michigan State
      http://jhodges.org/archives/2005/10/18/66/ 
     Larcom:Enjoy all those crazy ups and downs in the BigTen
 
http://news.google.com/url?sa=t&ct=us/9-0&fp=4356b9d7853b3fd8&ei=wzRWQ9ejMKbGFLL
GjdAB&url=http%3A//www.mlive.com/news/aanews/index.ssf%3F/base/news-14/112964642
5121520.xml%26coll%3D2&cid=1101685045 

Next Up

     @ Michigan State Spartans
     MSU-Northwestern matchup has makings of offensive show
 
http://news.google.com/url?sa=t&ct=us/2-0&fp=43568f13c9317c50&ei=mTRWQ5fWKMDyFdO
dlK8J&url=http%3A//wwmt.com/engine.pl%3Fstation%3Dwwmt%26id%3D20353%26template%3
Dbreakout_sports.html&cid=1101701382 
     + Spartan secondary still trying to put it together
 
http://www.mlive.com/spartans/stories/index.ssf?/base/sports-0/1129716610181020.
xml&coll=1 
     + Special teams star makes it personal
 
http://www.greenandwhite.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20051019/GW01/510190367/
1023/GW 

     $ Pregame Intel: Michigan State Spartans
      http://northwestern.scout.com/2/455671.html 
     $ Preview: Michigan State vs. Northwestern
      http://michiganstate.scout.com/2/455237.html 
     $ Mirror images? Michigan State vs.Northwestern
      http://michiganstate.scout.com/2/454672.html 
     $ Basanez, 'Cats pose threat to MSU bowl hopes
      http://michiganstate.scout.com/2/454193.html 
     + Smith expects MSU's intensity to remain high
 
http://www.mlive.com/spartans/stories/index.ssf?/base/sports-0/112988940337510.x
ml&coll=1 
     + Overlooked freshman sparks Wildcat offense
 
http://www.greenandwhite.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20051020/GW01/510200355/
1023/GW 

Future Big 10 Opponents:

     Michigan Wolverines [10/29 Homecoming]
     Iowa Hawkeyes [11/5]
     @ Ohio State Buckeyes [11/12]
     Illinois Fighting Illini [11/19]

Miscellaneous Football News:

     Big Ten Weekly Football Release - Oct. 17
 
http://www.fansonly.com/schools/big10/sports/m-footbl/spec-rel/101705aaf.html 

     Room for everyone in conference race
      http://www.suntimes.com/output/campus/cst-spt-big19.html 
     + Not-so-special teams affect games
 
http://www.dailynorthwestern.com/vnews/display.v/ART/2005/10/19/4355e17e6a873 
     + Standings muddled after PSU defeat
 
http://news.google.com/url?sa=t&ct=us/0-1&fp=43564a34b91f7558&ei=ZDVWQ4T8KsGOFsL
r-ZwF&url=http%3A//www.statenews.com/article.phtml%3Fpk%3D32463&cid=1101701382 

     Zook pushing for bye weeks
      http://www.dailysouthtown.com/southtown/dssports/pro/191sd8.htm 

Recruiting

     Top 25 Uncommitted Class of 2006 Basketball Prospects In The State of
Illinois
      http://www.chicagohoops.com/members/uncommitted.html 

BASKETBALL

     ESPN's Michael Wilbon Highlights 2005 Halloween HOOP-la Saturday Oct. 29
      http://www.fansonly.com/schools/nw/sports/m-baskbl/spec-rel/102005aab.html


     Big 10 Notes
     Expectations high for Illini despite key departures
      http://www.dailyherald.com/sports/illinois.asp?id=106849 
     Mike Davis And The Indiana Hoosiers Land 6-10 Turkish Big Man Cem Dinc
      http://www.indianapolishoops.com/articles/dinc.html 

FIELD HOCKEY

     Field Hockey
 
http://www.dailynorthwestern.com/vnews/display.v/ART/2005/10/21/435890969b019 

SOCCER

     Men
     Midterms
 
http://www.dailynorthwestern.com/vnews/display.v/ART/2005/10/19/4355dee4dfd0c 
     Northwestern Goes Coast-to-Coast For Weekend's Nonconference Action
      http://www.fansonly.com/schools/nw/sports/m-soccer/spec-rel/102005aaa.html

     + NU going coast-to-coast
 
http://www.dailynorthwestern.com/vnews/display.v/ART/2005/10/21/4358880f9d3d0 
     Women
     'Cats Look to Keep Postseason Hopes Alive
      http://www.fansonly.com/schools/nw/sports/w-soccer/spec-rel/102005aab.html

     + Injuries force frosh to step up their roles
 
http://www.dailynorthwestern.com/vnews/display.v/ART/2005/10/21/43587e8da013b 


SWIMMING

     Wildcats Begin Quest To Top Remarkable Season This Weekend
      http://www.fansonly.com/schools/nw/sports/m-swim/spec-rel/102005aab.html 

TENNIS

     Alexis Conill Begins Play For Northwestern at 2005 ITA Midwest Regional
Championships
      http://www.fansonly.com/schools/nw/sports/w-tennis/recaps/102105aab.html 
     Alexey Evstratenkov and Juan Gomez Complete First Day at ITA Midwest
Regional Championships
      http://www.fansonly.com/schools/nw/sports/m-tennis/spec-rel/102105aab.html


VOLLEYBALL

     Setting Up
 
http://www.dailynorthwestern.com/vnews/display.v/ART/2005/10/21/43588d44192ba 

WRESTLING

     Northwestern Notches National Rankings
      http://www.fansonly.com/schools/nw/sports/m-wrestl/spec-rel/101805aad.html


MISCELLANY

     Tim Cronin 'BCS' still rhymes with 'mess'
      http://www.dailysouthtown.com/southtown/dssports/pro/212sd7.htm 

ALUMNI

     Luis Castillo Castillo tackles new role
 
http://chicagosports.chicagotribune.com/sports/college/cs-051018nuside,1,4397912
.story?coll=cs-college-headlines 
     Joe Girardi Marlins' Girardi believes he's ready to manage
      http://www.dailysouthtown.com/southtown/dssports/pro/213sd4.htm 
     + Marlins introduce Girardi as manager
 
http://florida.marlins.mlb.com/NASApp/mlb/news/article.jsp?ymd=20051020&content_
id=1255829&vkey=news_fla&fext=.jsp&c_id=fla 
     PGA: [Links on Player's Name is their live scorecard]
     Luke Donald - Next scheduled for the Volvo Masters Oct 27th
      http://www.europeantour.com/Tournaments/latest.sps?iTourNo=2005076 
     Miccosukee Championship Cancelled by the Hurricane
      http://www.pgatour.com/tournaments/h083 
     Tom Johnson -

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From spiritu at northwestern.edu  Fri Oct 21 10:08:02 2005
From: spiritu at northwestern.edu (Jonathan Michael Hawkins)
Date: Fri Oct 21 10:09:06 2005
Subject: [NU Sports] MSU - Michigan State Upset?
In-Reply-To: <000e01c5d643$ccd6cfb0$6601a8c0@jroffice01>
References: <20051021124144.2792.qmail@web30304.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
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Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.64.0510210955530.24648@localhost>

> P.S. Great story in the Daily Herald today about Basanez: 
> <http://www.dailyherald.com/sports/northwestern.asp?id=109035>

Mr. Rittenberg's been covering the 'Cats for a long time, first for the 
Daily Northwestern and recently of the Daily Herald.  Great writer, and 
I'm glad to see alums (like Adam - also Stewart Mandel, and of course the 
journalists on this list) succeeding in the world of professional sports 
journalism.

As for the article - wow.  Great stuff!

Jonathan

From WildElk2 at aol.com  Fri Oct 21 19:08:25 2005
From: WildElk2 at aol.com (WildElk2@aol.com)
Date: Fri Oct 21 19:12:26 2005
Subject: [NU Sports] The stick went boom!
Message-ID: <1d7.47d8dbac.308adcf9@aol.com>

  I started this post after the Wisconsin game. I didn't get the post done, 
and with work and a long weekend out of town, I missed the Purdue game 
entirely. But I digress...
  Before I forget, nice work from the poster who dug up that we are 10-9 vs. 
Wiskey since 1985.  Why can't we play them every year as one of our designated 
rivals?
   On to business.  Sutton Tyrell; is this guy unbelievable or what?  We all 
saw how he quick he hits the hole, but the last two weeks, he was hit behind 
the line of scrimmage and carried defenders until he got the required yardage 
needed for a first down.
   Matt Hayes of TSN cited him as one of five new, bright stars, but felt as 
the Big Ten season wore on, he would wear down.  That didn't happen yesterday, 
and methinks someone has found a crack in the vaunted Purdue defense; NDU and 
Iowa has torched the daylights out of them on their home field.  They didn't 
seem to be playing with any confidence in either one of those games, and their 
offense stunk as well.  Now I don't follow Purdue too much, but I would be 
willing to bet there is trouble festering in West Lafayette; just like last 
year, let's get while the gettin' good before they get things squared away.
   A critique- Raise your hand if you've had enough of Marquis Coles' 
adventures deciding when or when not to make a fair catch...a suggestion; when the 
punt retrner is standing at his own 10 yard line, maybe Philmore can help out; 
didn't he return punts the past few years?  "Fair Catch Capers" has cost us 
extremely poor field position; that field position has lead to 17 easy points in 
the past 2 games. Our defense needs the help!
10/21/05:  I pegged this team as "Son of 2001," a team that put up bombastic 
numbers on offense, but gave up alarming numbers on defense. Alas, I'm not too 
far off.  But there are some differences; 1) Sutton has been better than hurt 
DA2/breaking in Jason Wright, as was the case in 2001. 2) despite our foibles 
on defense, they get turnovers, and that has been their saving grace. That 
didn't happen in 2001.
   So we're 4-2; most of us were figuring a way to split at Purdue/at Sparty; 
what the hell, let's sweep them both?
   Thought: I've been an NU fan since 1978, so I missed some very good years 
prior, but this is the best offense I've seen in my time, 6 games into the 
season, followed only by 2000 and 2001.  I will suggest only on this list, do we 
have an offense only rivaled by USC?  With all our short-comings on defense, 
will it matter? Are we so in the groove, that we'll put up the 48 points 
neccesary, and finish 9-2?  In the late 1990's, UCLA started 1-2, then got red-hot 
and finished 9-2, but because of their 2 losses, they were nowhere near a bowl 
to challenge for the NC. But, they were so red-hot that no one in their right 
mind would have wanted to face them late in the season.
   Thought: The defense played well in 1st half; we only allowed 22 points, 
as there was a Purdue special teams TD.  Raise your hand if you would like our 
defense to avg. 22 points ppg. the rest of the season!  That equals 9-2.
   I will suggest that tomorrow will separATE THE CONTENDERS from the 
pretenders (for the Big 10 title)  We will either win 49-27 or lose 49-27. I will 
suggest that Sparty will not survive "Onslaugt Evanston", Cats 49; Sparty 27.
   On to business: In September, I suggested a little hootenanny for Cat fans 
within shouting distance of Philadelphia.  There was a decent amount of 
enthusiasm, and I expected atleast 15-20 people to watch the Cats vs. Ohio.  
   However, I had the chance to go to the game (my son's 1st Cats  game) vs. 
Ohio, so I went to the game.  
   The Iowa game is the 1st Saturday in November, so I'm putting out feelers 
for getting together at Winner's Tavern on Rt.3 west of Philadelphia. Lot's of 
TV's and the food is good; also, I spoke to the manager, and ge was very 
enthusiastic about the idea of his facility being "Wildcat east."  
   Please , let me know if there is interest.  I will set it up. I plan to 
leave posts on all NU related sites.  There's alot of Cat fans on the east 
coast; it would be fun to get together.

                    GO CATS!!!                  Eric

        
From jason at jasonsinger.com  Fri Oct 21 20:36:42 2005
From: jason at jasonsinger.com (Jason Singer)
Date: Fri Oct 21 20:54:15 2005
Subject: [NU Sports] PIGSKIN PICKS - Standings
In-Reply-To: <20051019075616.55797.qmail@web52903.mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <200510220136.j9M1afZH013821@host14.webserver1010.com>

38) Neil Cub          23-17    .575      1	3
39) Jason Singer      43-32    .573      1	6

How fitting that a Red Sox fan and a man with the last name Cub are in last
place!

Jason Singer SP'86

From rstetson at capps-assoc.com  Sat Oct 22 10:55:52 2005
From: rstetson at capps-assoc.com (Roy Lamberton)
Date: Sat Oct 22 10:56:41 2005
Subject: [NU Sports] Time for a Chat on the Purple Reign Message Board
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From sjtruog at yahoo.com  Sat Oct 22 11:51:44 2005
From: sjtruog at yahoo.com (SjT (Stephen J. Truog))
Date: Sat Oct 22 11:59:32 2005
Subject: [NU Sports] MSU: First quarter ...
Message-ID: <20051022165144.4603.qmail@web52904.mail.yahoo.com>

Random thoughts in chronological order ...

- Dang that was fast -- looks like Coach Smith, unlike
Coach Alvarez, actually scouted our defense and came
out throwing. 7-0 MSU.

- STUPID PENALTIES! They killed our O on that first
drive (though the key call on Sutton on 3rd down
looked suspect - he seemed to be moving lateral).
Looks like we're fighting the zebras and mental
mistakes today.

- Hey, a 3rd down stop! And a missed FG -- dodged a
big bullet there.

- And they're booing already in East Lansing -- I tell
ya, there's something about the forest green (think:
Eagles fans). I remember a game there in the late 90s
when we were down 3 or 4 scores at half and they booed
Saban because he took a knee with 10 seconds left in
the half instead of hurling an 80 pass to try for
another score. BRUTAL!

- Looks like Herbert came to play today - that's a
good sign.

- Hmm, we're #4 in total offense (MSU is #3) and two
of the teams that got to face our defense (ASU and
NIU) are #5 and #6. Draw your own conclusions.:)

- That late hit penalty helps avoid a 3rd and 10.
Thanks Sparty. Close call though - looks like the refs
are whistle-happy on each side. Uh-oh.

- Looks like Walker scouted the MSU defense as well
and we're throwing downfield. Go Herbert!

- Seems like MSU's scorekeeper is feeling generous -
giving Sutton six before it was signaled a TD. Better
watch this guy - MSU doesn't have the best history
with  scoreboards and time.:) But you can't blame the
guy for being ready to light up the board today.

- Rats - we could have used that gimme with Sutton's
fumble at the goal line. UGH! That's one chance blown.

- Hey, the D HELD!!! I was expecting another 90+ yard
drive by an opponent after the fumble. BIG stop for
the D --- now LET'S GO O!!!

- QUACK! Guess the MSU punter isn't used to kicking
much this year.

- Herbert is da MAN! Bailing the O out on 2nd and 15
... he hasn't looked this sharp since the opener. Good
sign. In the red zone again.

- BAZ FOR SIX!!! YES!!! All tied up at 7-7. We needed
that after fumbling down there before.

- A touchback! Yaa!

- That Ringer's a pretty good back as well --
superfrosh all over the Big Ten! How did both those
guys get out of Ohio when the Buckeyes desperately
need a consistent running back?

- I hate 4th down!:)

- Refs seem to be giving some generous spots today.

- We're not getting fooled by MSU's trick plays, which
is good ... but we're not stuffing them for losses
either.

- INTERCEPTION!!! Needed that to even the turnover
battle. Brendan Smith has made some nice plays today.
Hope he's not too hurt.

- End of the first ... only 7-7? Well, each team has a
turnover by the goal line. Maybe they're just warming
up.

GO CATS!!!
-SjT

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From Hakirsch at aol.com  Sat Oct 22 12:08:12 2005
From: Hakirsch at aol.com (Hakirsch@aol.com)
Date: Sat Oct 22 12:09:41 2005
Subject: [NU Sports] MSU: First quarter ...
Message-ID: <2b.7e4389bd.308bcbfc@aol.com>

Can't belive MSU isn't working all day on the replaced safety--we'll take 
21-7  
From sjtruog at yahoo.com  Sat Oct 22 12:39:00 2005
From: sjtruog at yahoo.com (SjT (Stephen J. Truog))
Date: Sat Oct 22 12:45:50 2005
Subject: [NU Sports] Q2: Michigan State ...
Message-ID: <20051022173900.12802.qmail@web52904.mail.yahoo.com>

And quarter #2 ...

- Doesn't look good for Smith (OUCH! That hit by
Stanton just looked painful).

- Nice drive after the pick ... Sutton is just super!
Great run after the reception to set up the plungs.
14-7.

- Gotta keep up the pressure O because the D will be
hurting even more with Smith out. Plus, if we can keep
up the pressure, the crowd will be a factor in the
opposite direction, booing the home team.

- Rhythm is everything for our O and it looks like Baz
is getting in sync ... STAY IN THAT ZONE ALL GAME,
BAZ!

- I know Ringer's a stud and you want to have balance,
but I'm surprised MSU isn't passing more, especially
with our secondary even more hurt.

- YES!!! WHAT A FUMBLE!!! WHAT A RETURN!!! GO
DEFENSE!!! 21-7 CATS!!! HUGE GAME SWING!!! YES!!!

- Our defense has been run all over, shredded by air
and rightfully bemoaned ... but they do have a knack
for causing turnovers and have come up big twice today
despite all the newcomers and injuries. That's gutsy.
Now let's hope the O keeps the foot on the pedal.

- Gotta give Coach Smith credit - he's sticking to the
gameplan and running Ringer.

- Refs (or us?) are sure trying to help MSU get going
with penalties on us. Ugh! But that's the first on the
D and Roach rebounded with a nice tackle for loss.

- PICK BY HENDERSON!!! The D's been out there most of
the second quarter but we now have three turnovers
generated in the red zone. Good call by Henderson to
run as well -- I don't think he'd have gotten the call
for a touchback by momentum. NOW GO O!!! Give the D a
rest and some cushion -- let's get a long drive for a
score!

- Man, Baz had ALLLLLLL DAY to make that 2nd down
throw from the end zone. GREAT JOB O-LINE!!! And who
makes the catch? Herbert of course!

- Dang holding call! Our O is really racking up the
penalty yardage as well - UGH!

- You'd hope Herbert's work would open some running
lanes for Sutton sooner or later.

- Big 3rd and 11 after the penalty ... this could
really be a big point in the game ... but we can't
convert. That was a big stop for MSU, especially if
they can get something before the half to close the
gap. Dang - we had a chance to go up 28-7 and blew it.

- Well, MSU may be turning it over, but we're
committing umpteen penalties to their zero, so that's
not good.

- We gotta take away that running game from MSU.
They're relying on that with Stanton struggling.

- The D isn't stopping the run, but they sure are
getting in some hard licks that you can hear all the
way from the field.

- Nice stop for the D before the half. If the O failed
to take advantage and go up 28-7, at least the D kept
it from being 21-14. But that MSU running game is
really milking the clock and keeping our O on the
sidelines (so we gotta score every chance we get!).

- Another missed FG!!! Bring out the boo-birds (though
I dunno if that's good because MSU will now be going
for it every 4th down in our territory regardless of
distance).

- Gotta love Sutton! What a superfrosh banging the
pile forward and pushing out of sheer will.

- Dang holding call ... we had a chance to maybe get a
FG in the final seconds. How many penalties on the
offense is that? UGH!

So we head to the half, leading 21-7. The D allowed a
quick score and then made some nice adjustments to
shut out the Spartans the rest of the half, thanks to
those BIG turnovers forced (and that 3-and-out stop
after we fumbled to get the ball back in good field
position was key as well).

The story of the game may well be our first drive of
the second half. We get the ball first -- if we can
march it downfield and go up 28-7, then we make MSU
one-dimensional and the crowd really starts to groan.
If we fail to score and MSU gets the ball back, they
can get momentum.

Halftime: NU 21, MSU 7

GO CATS!!!
-SjT

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From MHRJGScott at aol.com  Sat Oct 22 12:45:47 2005
From: MHRJGScott at aol.com (MHRJGScott@aol.com)
Date: Sat Oct 22 12:49:43 2005
Subject: [NU Sports] MSU: First quarter ...
Message-ID: <214.c2354c3.308bd4cb@aol.com>

 
Sparty has met the enemy and it is them, I am impressed by Walker's ability  
to let good teams self destruct against us.  I think teams get into a good  
game with the CATS! think  "WE CANT' LOSE TO NORTHWESTERN" and freak. Seems  
like a lot of the good players on both teams are from Ohio.

That  Ringer's a pretty good back as well --
superfrosh all over the Big Ten! How  did both those
guys get out of Ohio when the Buckeyes desperately
need a  consistent running back?





From jmccull at insight.rr.com  Sat Oct 22 13:15:15 2005
From: jmccull at insight.rr.com (jmccull@insight.rr.com)
Date: Sat Oct 22 13:15:35 2005
Subject: [NU Sports] MSU: First quarter ...
Message-ID: <8d5a88ecc6.8ecc68d5a8@columbus.rr.com>

My prediction was we win if we capitalize on TOs and keep the hammer 
down on offense. So far so good. Let's bury them on this drive. 28-7 
now -- LETS GO FOR 35-7!!!!

GO CATS!!!

BAZ RULES

J.R.

----- Original Message -----
From: MHRJGScott@aol.com
Date: Saturday, October 22, 2005 1:45 pm
Subject: Re: [NU Sports] MSU: First quarter ...

> 
> Sparty has met the enemy and it is them, I am impressed by 
> Walker's ability  
> to let good teams self destruct against us.  I think teams get 
> into a good  
> game with the CATS! think  "WE CANT' LOSE TO NORTHWESTERN" and 
> freak. Seems  
> like a lot of the good players on both teams are from Ohio.
> 
> That  Ringer's a pretty good back as well --
> superfrosh all over the Big Ten! How  did both those
> guys get out of Ohio when the Buckeyes desperately
> need a  consistent running back?
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
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From jmccull at insight.rr.com  Sat Oct 22 13:24:49 2005
From: jmccull at insight.rr.com (jmccull@insight.rr.com)
Date: Sat Oct 22 13:25:09 2005
Subject: [NU Sports] 35-7 BABY!!!!
Message-ID: <8ba3088b43.88b438ba30@columbus.rr.com>

Keep the pedal down, baby! 35-7!!!!

I'll say it again, BAZ is the MAN. I think he's showing the world who 
the better Big Ten QB is this year.

J.R.

From Hakirsch at aol.com  Sat Oct 22 13:26:46 2005
From: Hakirsch at aol.com (Hakirsch@aol.com)
Date: Sat Oct 22 13:27:59 2005
Subject: [NU Sports] 35-7 BABY!!!!
Message-ID: <145.5017c205.308bde66@aol.com>

In a message dated 10/22/2005 11:25:58 AM Pacific Daylight Time, 
jmccull@insight.rr.com writes:

> Keep the pedal down, baby! 35-7!!!!
> 
> I'll say it again, BAZ is the MAN. I think he's showing the world who 
> the better Big Ten QB is this year.
> 
> J.R.
> 
> 

Give crdit to the defense--MSU QB had 72% completion rate prior to game !
From thehaze at earthlink.net  Sat Oct 22 13:27:38 2005
From: thehaze at earthlink.net (Jim Bendat)
Date: Sat Oct 22 13:31:25 2005
Subject: [NU Sports] 35-7 - and it's beautiful in London!
Message-ID: <32751897.1130005658316.JavaMail.root@elwamui-polski.atl.sa.earthlink.net>

Hi everybody - I've been in London for a week, visiting my oldest son (a refugee from Tulane) - and right now I'm in an internet cafe listening to WGN radio -- and it is indeed a beautiful thing.  Let's hope we hold on.  You've gotta expect MSU to mount some sort of a comeback.  

I said we'd go 8-3 before the season started.  I'm standing by it.  Go Cats!  -- Jim B.

From nolan at romaine.tssi.com  Sat Oct 22 13:41:29 2005
From: nolan at romaine.tssi.com (Mike Nolan)
Date: Sat Oct 22 13:41:32 2005
Subject: [NU Sports] 35-7 - and it's beautiful in London! (fwd)
Message-ID: <200510221841.j9MIfTdN025797@romaine.tssi.com>

42-7 and the modern-day record for scoring 55 points in a conference game 
is in sight.

Way to keep the pressure on, D!

This is a team that believes in itself.
--
Mike Nolan

From sjtruog at yahoo.com  Sat Oct 22 13:40:53 2005
From: sjtruog at yahoo.com (SjT (Stephen J. Truog))
Date: Sat Oct 22 13:42:04 2005
Subject: [NU Sports] 3Q: Michigan State ...
Message-ID: <20051022184053.33279.qmail@web52905.mail.yahoo.com>

And continuing the game ...

- Finally, a penalty on MSU! That was a big offsides
to keep our initial drive of the half alive. NOW TAKE
ADVANTAGE AND SCORE, O!!!

- Looks like MSU, as Purdue last week, is really
keying in on Sutton (after that Wisky game, who
wouldn't?!). So good thing Baz has the downfield touch
to take what's being given.

- BIG touchdown on the opening drive to go up 28-7.
THAT'S just what the offense needed to do coming out
of the locker room! The game's not over by a longshot,
but we gotta keep MSU playing from behind and not let
up on O.

- Again this week, Baz is on ... and it's just an
absolute pleasure to watch him spread the ball --
vertically and horizontally -- all over the field. If
the D focuses on Sutton, Baz will shred 'em. He gets
all receivers involved (even if Herbert is his fave),
keeps the D off balance and gets Sutton involved by
passing if he's bottled up running. Baz is the Big Ten
MVP this year. No doubt in my mind.

- A defensive stop! WOW! C'mon O ... keep it GOING!!!
You gotta applaud the D ... after the zip-bang opening
MSU drive and the early injury, they've fought back
with spunk!

- Finally some MSU laundry ... are they getting
frustrated? The fans sure are.

- Doh! We give the penalty right back. C'mon O!!!

- TOUCHDOWN BAZ!!! 35-7!!!

- Now THAT'S how you go for the jugular, offense! Big
plays by Sutton, Philmore and -- of course -- Baz on
that drive. KEEP IT UP OFFENSE!!!

- Does this mean we would beat Notre Dame by four
scores?:)

- I don't think I've ever seen a more exciting run for
negligible gain as those by Sutton. This guy keeps
fighting for every inch!

- BAZ IS ON FIRE!!! I think Baz is making himself the
Big Ten MVP frontrunner in this game and if he keeps
getting these ESPN2 (NU's new network?:) ) announcers,
he may be able to get to New York.

- Give Dunbar a lot of credit as well for perfect
playcalling the last few games. I think the difference
this year has been our ability to go downfield with
Baz. We've had good running games and spread bubble
screens, but the deep threats and the best middle man
in Herbert since ole #22 and his big smile was in
purple has just let this offense go to a new level.

- SUTTON FOR SIX!!! 42-7!!! THREE STRAIGHT TD DRIVES
FOR THE OFFENSE OUT OF THE LOCKER ROOM!!! YES!!!
YES!!! YES!!!

- MSU may be more of a mental team than anyone in the
Big Ten. They always have been, and so have their
fans. We've just beaten down any will to win and their
fans -- and many of their players -- have already left
the building on this Saturday.

- How much do you love those shots of Fitz on the
sidelines. This guy coaches with as much passion as he
played. Let's hope his backers bring it again next
week and force a few turnovers from the Maize and
Blue.

- Sack of Stanton to end the 3rd. WOW! Less than 50
yards given up by the D and three consecutive scoring
drives from the O. You can't ask for anything more
than that!

NU 42, MSU 7 after three.

Something to think about heading into the fourth ...

(and yes, I know we still have 15 minutes to play, but
blowing a 35 point lead in 15 minutes would be a new
low even for our D ... and our D is playing well
today, so ...) ...

In 1995 and 2000, it was a big two-game road swing
that propelled us to being serious contenders for the
Big Ten title. In 1995, we beat ranked Michigan and
Minnesota on the road before coming home for
homecoming against Wisconsin. In 2000, we beat ranked
Wisconsin and ranked MSU on the road before a
homestand that included homecoming (and a killer loss)
to Purdue. Now it looks like 2005 will also see the
Cats coming back to Evanston for Homecoming off a BIG
two-game road swing over ranked MSU and Purdue.
Hopefully the results will be more 1995 than 2000 for
homecoming against Michigan.:)

GO CATS!!!
-SjT

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From sjtruog at yahoo.com  Sat Oct 22 13:48:39 2005
From: sjtruog at yahoo.com (SjT (Stephen J. Truog))
Date: Sat Oct 22 13:49:47 2005
Subject: [NU Sports] We need a "purple-out"!!!
Message-ID: <20051022184839.32494.qmail@web52915.mail.yahoo.com>

OK - surely someone (most of you:) ) on this list have
more clout and pull with the athletic department than
I do, so make sure this gets to Mark Murphy's eyes for
me:) ...

We've seen the "white out" at PSU for the OSU game ...
the "Black Out" at Maryland for their prime time
Thursday game.

Well, next Saturday is perhaps the biggest game in
Dyche Stadium since we played Michigan in 2000 or PSU
in 1995. We are on a roll with three wins (two over
ranked teams) a 5-2 record, a (probable) ranking, Big
Ten co-leaders and one play from being 6-1 and alone
atop the league.

WE NEED A PURPLE-OUT in the stands.

We have a prime time audience, we have crazed alums
for homecoming, we SHOULD have a sellout at Ryan Field
and we have a HUGE chance to show Northwestern
football in all its prime time glory.

PLEASE ...

1) WEAR PURPLE! EVERYONE IN THE STANDS!!! WEAR
PURPLE!!!

2) For our "freebie" giveaway as folks enter the
stadium, GIVE AWAY THE SHINY PURPLE SHAKERS THATS HOW
UP WELL ON TV.

3) MAKE NOISE!!! MAKE NOISE!!! MAKE NOISE!!!

We need to have a national audience see a PURPLE
FRENZY in Ryan Field, with everything purple,
everything jumping and everything LOUD!!! WE need to
promote Baz for Heisman and Sutton the Superfrosh and
McGarrigle for Butkus.

Let's make Saturday night a PURPLE HAZE in Evanston
with EVERYTHING PURPLE AND EVERYTHING NOISY!!!

I'm getting excited - spread the word to fans and the
AD and everyone else in Evanston. PAINT THE TOWN
PURPLE! PURPLE HAZE! PURPLE CRAZE!!!

We need a purple-out in Evanston next week. Anyone
without purple on should be sent away at the gate!:)

GO CATS!!!
-SjT

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From MHRJGScott at aol.com  Sat Oct 22 13:48:01 2005
From: MHRJGScott at aol.com (MHRJGScott@aol.com)
Date: Sat Oct 22 13:52:07 2005
Subject: [NU Sports] 3Q: Michigan State ...49 - 7
Message-ID: <1a0.3f2691d5.308be361@aol.com>

We spanked Sparty good. I think the D has found itself. 3 picks against  
Sutton and it could have been 5, we need 3 more wins with 3 tough games in a  row, 
GO CATS! I am lovin it.
From thehaze at earthlink.net  Sat Oct 22 13:55:28 2005
From: thehaze at earthlink.net (Jim Bendat)
Date: Sat Oct 22 13:55:31 2005
Subject: [NU Sports] 35-7 - and it's beautiful in London! (fwd)
Message-ID: <2866286.1130007328551.JavaMail.root@elwamui-polski.atl.sa.earthlink.net>

hi mike, even here in london i remember we scored 61 against illinois in 2000 !

-----Original Message-----
From: Mike Nolan <nolan@romaine.tssi.com>
Sent: Oct 22, 2005 7:41 PM
To: nwu-sports@romaine.tssi.com
Subject: [NU Sports] 35-7 - and it's beautiful in London! (fwd)

42-7 and the modern-day record for scoring 55 points in a conference game 
is in sight.

Way to keep the pressure on, D!

This is a team that believes in itself.
--
Mike Nolan

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From NEONRye at aol.com  Sat Oct 22 13:53:30 2005
From: NEONRye at aol.com (NEONRye@aol.com)
Date: Sat Oct 22 13:57:27 2005
Subject: [NU Sports] 35-7 - and it's beautiful in London! (fwd)
Message-ID: <dc.307fade5.308be4aa@aol.com>

This is heaven.  Now take out all the starters, keep them healthy, and  beat 
the crap out of the Wolves next Sat. night.  And....watch for the  rankings 
tomorrow.  There will be a Purple presence.
 
Paul Levinson
From nolan at romaine.tssi.com  Sat Oct 22 14:11:09 2005
From: nolan at romaine.tssi.com (Mike Nolan)
Date: Sat Oct 22 14:11:11 2005
Subject: [NU Sports] 35-7 - and it's beautiful in London! (fwd)
In-Reply-To: <2866286.1130007328551.JavaMail.root@elwamui-polski.atl.sa.earthlink.net>
	from "Jim Bendat" at Oct 22, 2005 07:55:28 PM
Message-ID: <200510221911.j9MJB94Z026240@romaine.tssi.com>

> hi mike, even here in london i remember we scored 61 against illinois in 2000 !

I could only find an older copy of the media guide, sorry about that.

However, the record is for points against a 'major college team', maybe
the 2000 Illini team doesn't count?  :-)

Baz is taking a well-deserved rest on this drive, and it appears Sutton
is done for the day, too.  Nice to have a game where we can give some
the reserves some experience.
--
Mike Nolan

From jleonard518 at yahoo.com  Sat Oct 22 13:45:09 2005
From: jleonard518 at yahoo.com (Jim Leonard)
Date: Sat Oct 22 14:11:56 2005
Subject: [NU Sports] they say no lead is safe....
In-Reply-To: <32751897.1130005658316.JavaMail.root@elwamui-polski.atl.sa.earthlink.net>
Message-ID: <20051022184509.71802.qmail@web30306.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

Can they Cats hang on to a 35 point lead in the 4th? I am really enjoying this
one. I'd like to see our back-up QB get some experience. 

Oh, new drinking game. Every time Pam Ward refers to our defense as "much
maligned" drink a shot of your favorite booze. Same for every time David Norrie
says "you live by the sword, you die by the sword". 

Victory & Honor,
Jim


		
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From sjtruog at yahoo.com  Sat Oct 22 14:19:57 2005
From: sjtruog at yahoo.com (SjT (Stephen J. Truog))
Date: Sat Oct 22 14:27:45 2005
Subject: [NU Sports] they say no lead is safe....
In-Reply-To: <20051022184509.71802.qmail@web30306.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <20051022191957.84778.qmail@web52908.mail.yahoo.com>

> Oh, new drinking game. Every time Pam Ward refers to
> our defense as "much
> maligned" drink a shot of your favorite booze. Same
> for every time David Norrie
> says "you live by the sword, you die by the sword". 

Hey, don't knock these two -- they're becoming more of
a home announcing team than Notre Dame's NBC cronies
-- every game we're on ESPN2, they keep hyping Baz and
getting more positive pub for the purple.

If they only had a vote in the polls, they'd probably
put us in the top 10.:)

OT in Kinnick - hopefully these two can wear each
other out for our next two games in a HUGE HOMESTAND!

PURPLE HAZE NEXT SATURDAY -- WEAR PURPLE! MAKE NOISE!

GO CATS!!!
-SjT

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From sjtruog at yahoo.com  Sat Oct 22 14:15:53 2005
From: sjtruog at yahoo.com (SjT (Stephen J. Truog))
Date: Sat Oct 22 14:42:45 2005
Subject: [NU Sports] 4Q: Michigan State game ...
Message-ID: <20051022191553.29140.qmail@web52904.mail.yahoo.com>

For once, I don't think we need to buckle up for a
cardiac finish.

- A fine drive to start off the quarter (four straight
scoring drives!) ... Baz is still in an absolute
friggin' ZONE and Sutton is just running over people.

- 49 unanswered after a quick MSU start. 49-7 Cats and
there's 11+ minutes left.

- Howells makes a nice TD-saving tackle on the
kickoff.

- This team is really coming together ... the D knows
it has weak spots but is forcing the issue with
pressure and hard hustle instead of letting other
teams pick 'em apart. The O is just on an unbelievable
roll (and unlike the 2000 team, I don't think you shut
the O down by stopping the run because Baz and the
deep game are too good).

- We would have never though this a month ago, but
Walker's a frontrunner for Big Ten coach of the year
now and Baz is the frontrunner for player of the year
and Sutton is THE freshman of the year. After that
heartbreaking PSU loss coming off the ASU debacle to
slip to 2-2, this team could have packed it in easy.
But they regrouped during the bye week and have come
out on fire ever since. That PSU loss stings still,
but we're using it as fuel instead of a detriment.

- SHOULD be another turnover by the D, but the refs
bailed MSU out with forward progress. Tenacious D!!!

- Sparty finally ends the streak (to a sarcastic
ovation from the stands) and gets a TD, but the D
didn't make it easy. 49-14.

- Love that aerial shot of a half-empty Spartan
Stadium. We're homecoming wreckers once again!

- Four drives in the second half, at least 6 plays and
at least 60 yards on each. GREAT JOB O-LINE!!!

- Good to see C.J. getting some practice for the last
7 minutes. It's gonna be a shock to lose Baz next year
and in our cardiac games, the backup QB doesn't get
much game-time practice, so this will be helpful.

- This is a dominating performance and with the O
clicking and the D improving, it really speaks volumes
about the leadership -- coaches and players -- on this
team and bodes well for the future.

- Some garbage yards late will hurt the stats, but
this was a BIG day for the young defense and hopefully
a sign that they've turned the corner for the year.

- Final Score: NORTHWESTERN 49, Michigan State 14

CATS!!! WIN!!! CATS!!! WIN!!! CATS!!! WIN!!!

Nice to breathe easy for a fourth quarter for once.:)
HUGE win for the Cats, and it sets up a MONSTER
MATCHUP for homecoming next week with Michigan under
the lights (and a possible Game 6 in Chicago as well
that night? Could be a dandy weekend in the Windy
City).

Between Michigan's penchant for last-second finishes
this year (looks like OT in Iowa City) and the Cardiac
Cats' history in Evanston for the past decade, this
should be one hum-dinger next week!

WEAR PURPLE!!!
GIVE OUT SOMETHING PURPLE AS FANS WALK IN!!!
MAKE NOISE!!!

I want a PURPLE HAZE in the stands next week and a big
win over the Wolverines to keep the momentum going!

GO CATS!!!
-SjT

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From nolan at romaine.tssi.com  Sat Oct 22 14:46:57 2005
From: nolan at romaine.tssi.com (Mike Nolan)
Date: Sat Oct 22 14:47:00 2005
Subject: [NU Sports] they say no lead is safe.... (fwd)
Message-ID: <200510221946.j9MJkvHR026655@romaine.tssi.com>

> Hey, don't knock these two -- they're becoming more of
> a home announcing team than Notre Dame's NBC cronies
> -- every game we're on ESPN2, they keep hyping Baz and
> getting more positive pub for the purple.

And here I thought ESPN2 was letting Baz's mom do the game.  :-)

Michigan beat Iowa in overtime, but I don't think they'll be ranked,
which means that the only ranked team in the NU-Michigan game is likely to
be NU, I wonder if that's happened before?
--
Mike Nolan

From jmccull at insight.rr.com  Sat Oct 22 15:45:16 2005
From: jmccull at insight.rr.com (jmccull@insight.rr.com)
Date: Sat Oct 22 15:45:36 2005
Subject: [NU Sports] Game Day crew next week?
Message-ID: <9a9a095630.956309a9a0@columbus.rr.com>

With the game next week being on ESPN, I'm wondering if we'll get the 
College Game Day crew. Looking at next week's national schedule, there 
is no bigger game than ours. The only game featuring two top 25 teams 
(Georgia at Florida) is showing on CBS. I doubt ESPN would send a crew 
to a game televised by a rival network. 

I predict we'll be about 17th or 18th, and Michigan will crack the top 
25 as well. Wouldn't that be sweet to have the extra hype before the 
game? Of course, they could take the week off too. They've done that 
in the past.

Also, I wonder if we'll be favored? I expect we will, but not by much -
- maybe 3.5 points. 

Whatever the case, I know the stands will be rockin' next week. I'll 
be there cheering my lungs out. 

Go Cats!

J.R.

From Hakirsch at aol.com  Sat Oct 22 15:59:49 2005
From: Hakirsch at aol.com (Hakirsch@aol.com)
Date: Sat Oct 22 16:01:02 2005
Subject: [NU Sports] Game Day crew next week?
Message-ID: <223.b200df.308c0245@aol.com>

In a message dated 10/22/2005 1:46:38 PM Pacific Daylight Time, 
jmccull@insight.rr.com writes:

> With the game next week being on ESPN, I'm wondering if we'll get the 
> College Game Day crew. Looking at next week's national schedule, there 
> is no bigger game than ours. The only game featuring two top 25 teams 
> (Georgia at Florida) is showing on CBS. I doubt ESPN would send a crew 
> to a game televised by a rival network. 
> 
> I predict we'll be about 17th or 18th, and Michigan will crack the top 
> 25 as well. Wouldn't that be sweet to have the extra hype before the 
> game? Of course, they could take the week off too. They've done that 
> in the past.
> 
> Also, I wonder if we'll be favored? I expect we will, but not by much -
> - maybe 3.5 points. 
> 
> Whatever the case, I know the stands will be rockin' next week. I'll 
> 

Hard to believe that we will be favored, even though we should--Betting 
public loves big name teams--but we'll see
From sjtruog at yahoo.com  Sat Oct 22 16:14:20 2005
From: sjtruog at yahoo.com (SjT (Stephen J. Truog))
Date: Sat Oct 22 16:15:28 2005
Subject: [NU Sports] Game Day crew next week?
In-Reply-To: <223.b200df.308c0245@aol.com>
Message-ID: <20051022211420.17203.qmail@web52907.mail.yahoo.com>

> > (Georgia at Florida) is showing on CBS. I doubt
> ESPN would send a crew 
> > to a game televised by a rival network. 

Well, they have in the past to SEC games and to Notre
Dame, such as last week's game. Still, it'd be great
if they made it to Evanston. I think the only time
they were there was 1995 for Iowa and they got forced
inside by the snow and cold.

> > I predict we'll be about 17th or 18th, and
> Michigan will crack the top 

I think we'll both be in the 20-25 range. No respect
for us until we beat a "big name" like Michigan.

> > Also, I wonder if we'll be favored? I expect we
> will, but not by much -

I doubt it. Michigan may have 3 losses, but they're a
dangerous team and have been coming on lately. I think
they'll be favored.

> > Whatever the case, I know the stands will be
> rockin' next week. I'll 

Exactly -- it'd be great to see Gameday there or NU
favored, but regardless it'll be a huge game. Since
the 2000 Michigan game came after the Purdue loss (and
hence a slight loss of momentum), I'd say this is
shaping up to be the biggest since the 1995 Penn State
contest in ole' Dyche Stadium in terms of trying to
win national respect against a traditional power.

WEAR PURPLE!!!
MAKE NOISE!!!

GO CATS!!!
-SjT

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From michael.vance at att.net  Sat Oct 22 17:12:52 2005
From: michael.vance at att.net (michael.vance@att.net)
Date: Sat Oct 22 17:13:39 2005
Subject: [NU Sports] 4Q: Michigan State game ...
Message-ID: <102220052212.14133.435AB9620004DEFF0000373521602806510A0C020E90D2040A0E080C0703@att.net>

I wish Walker had let him pass it a couple of times, at least on the third and long.  It's only good practice for next year if he gets a chance to run the offense.  I'd have sat Baz for the entire fourth quarter and let C.J. run the complete show.  This was a great opportunity to get him some real playing experience without much pressure.

--
Michael 
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- Good to see C.J. getting some practice for the last
7 minutes. It's gonna be a shock to lose Baz next year
and in our cardiac games, the backup QB doesn't get
much game-time practice, so this will be helpful.

From sjtruog at yahoo.com  Sat Oct 22 18:25:48 2005
From: sjtruog at yahoo.com (SjT (Stephen J. Truog))
Date: Sat Oct 22 18:27:00 2005
Subject: [NU Sports] Big Ten breakdown ...
Message-ID: <20051022232548.78322.qmail@web52913.mail.yahoo.com>

Another day for fantastic finishes -- Iowa/Mich OT and
now the defensive slugfest in the SEC (who knew there
was a place in college football that still plays
defense!) between Bama and Rocky Top.

Assuming PSU wins tonight, the Big Ten is starting to
sort out a bit in the race. A brief breakdown ...

THE FAVORITES
=============
PENN STATE (7-1 / 4-1 * if they win tonight)
----------
* REMAINING GAMES: Purdue, Wisconsin, @MSU
* SjT PROJECTION: 10-1 - Fiesta Bowl vs. Notre
Dame/UCLA

The Nits are young, but the schedule is favorable for
them to run the table. Their toughest game --
Wisconsin -- is senior day at Happy Valley (and JoePa
always likes to go out strong at home) and then they
have two weeks to prepare for MSU, and no one in the
Big Ten has defensed the spread attacks as well as
PSU. If they beat the Badgers, they hold all the
tiebreakers and are the team to beat.

OHIO STATE (5-2 / 3-1)
----------
* REMAINING GAMES: @ Minnesota, Illinois, NU, @ Mich.
* SjT PROJECTION: 10-1 - Citrus Bowl vs. Florida

The Bucks have the league's best defense (by
default?), and that should be enough to get them past
a rough road game at Minny and the usual season-ender
in Ann Arbor. They do need to watch out about looking
ahead to Michigan though and overlooking NU in
Columbus, but it's Senior Day there and that will
probably be enough for them to run the table.

The tiebreaker (which is against OSU against both PSU
and Wisconsin because OSU lost out of conference and
lost to PSU) keeps 'em from the automatic BCS berth,
but if Notre Dame slips up and there are two open BCS
spots, don't count out an OSU Orange Bowl berth vs.
Alabama or Georgia.

WISCONSIN (7-1 / 4-1)
---------
* REMAINING GAMES: @ Illinois, @ PSU, Iowa, @ Hawaii
* SjT PROJECTION: 10-2 - Outback Bowl vs. Tennessee

Bucky would love to send Barry out with a Big Ten
title, and if they can win at Happy Valley, they
probably will, since they don't face OSU and hold the
tiebreak (overall record). But that's a tall task.
More likely, they'll win at Illinois, slip up at PSU,
rally for Barry's home finale vs. Iowa and outscore
Hawaii for a January 1 sendoff for Coach Alvarez.

THE DARKHORSES
==============
NORTHWESTERN (5-2 / 3-1)
------------
* REMAINING GAMES: Michigan, Iowa, @ OSU, @ Illinois
* SjT PROJECTION: 7-4 - Music City Bowl vs. S.Carolina
(though the Alamo vs. Texas Tech might be more fun for
a promotional standpoint - first one to 100 wins!
YEEHAW!)

The Cats are the team nobody wants to play right now -
PSU was fortunate to escape and since then, the
offense has been ON FIRE! A split of the homestand
coming up and a win over Illinois would get the Cats
to 7 wins, but lack of respect keeps us from the big
bowls again. If we miss the Alamo, we could slip down
to Nashville because ASU may be headed to the Sun Bowl
yet again. But if Baz stays on fire and the defense
improves, who knows? 8-3 or 9-2 are not out of the
question.

MICHIGAN (5-3 / 3-2)
--------
* REMAINING: @ Northwestern, Indiana, Ohio State
* SjT PROJECTION: 7-4 - Alamo Bowl vs. Oklahoma

If NU is the team nobody wants to face, Michigan is
the team that's back from the dead who people thought
they had gotten rid of. But after a poor start,
Michigan is rebounding and still has the most
offensive talent in the league. They need help to win
the Big Ten, and I don't think they'll run the table,
but they will get 2 of 3, slipping either (hopefully)
at NU or vs. their nemesis from Columbus.

Still, a 7-4 record, a strong finish and the Michigan
name is enough to get the Wolverines the top non-Jan.
1 bowl in the league in a "preseason top 10 but what
happened to 'em" Alamo Bowl vs. Oklahoma. They could
even sneak into Tampa with a 3-0 finish or if we get a
BCS bid in the league.

BOWL CONTENDERS
===============
IOWA (5-3 / 3-2)
----
* REMAINING: @ Northwestern, @ Wisconsin, Minnesota
* SjT PROJECTION: 6-5 - Sun Bowl vs. Oregon

The loss to Michigan ended a lot of hopes in Iowa
City, and a tough three game stretch to close the
season makes a bowl bid anything but a lock. They do
get a week off to prepare for the Cats in Evanston,
but then have to face Wisconsin in Barry Alvarez' home
finale and then face a rested Minnesota in the pig
game. I think they win at Kinnick, but slip up on the
road to squeak into the bowl picture.

MINNESOTA (5-2 / 2-2)
---------
* REMAINING: Ohio State, @ Indiana, MSU, @ Iowa
* SjT PROJECTION: 6-5 - Motor City Bowl vs. Bowling
Green

Will the week off be good or bad for the Gophers after
that heartbreaking loss to Wisconsin? The schedule is
tough the rest of the way, with the angry Bucks coming
into the Dome and a road game at Iowa to close things
out. I think they drop both of those and split the two
in the middle (losing on the road at IU but rebounding
at home vs. MSU) to sneak into Detroit for an
entertaining Motor City Bowl.

MICHIGAN STATE (4-3 / 1-3)
--------------
* REMAINING: Indiana, @ Purdue, @ Minnesota, PSU
* SjT PROJECTION: 5-6

Traditionally, MSU has been the most mentally-affected
team in the Big Ten ... and when they get in a funk
after losing the Michigan and OSU games, it stays
around and affects their performance the rest of the
year. I think they still have enough talent to beat
Indiana at home, but will slip up at Purdue and Minny
and blow the home finale to PSU to let a season that
started so promising result in no bowl. If they can
win at Purdue, however, the Motor City Bowl will take
them in a heartbeat over Minnesota.

INDIANA (4-3 / 1-3)
-------
* REMAINING: @ MSU, Minnesota, @ Michigan, Purdue
* SjT PROJECTION: 6-5 - Insight vs. California

The Hoosiers have a different attitude under Hoeppner
(you can tell he was on Walker's staff - he has the
same hard-nosed, us-against-the-world approach) and
are tough enough to win their two remaining home games
and sneak in a bowl. Where is the big question --
could be San Francisco, but I think with the Big Least
struggling, Phoenix starts its Insight Bowl
association with the Big Ten a year early.

THE SPOILERS
============
PURDUE (2-5 / 0-4)
------
* REMAINING: @ PSU, MSU, Illinois, @ Indiana
* SjT PROJECTION: 4-7

The Boilers, once ranked #11, won't make it to a bowl
game (they'll need a perfect finish), but could play a
big role in the conference bowl picture. For starters,
they get a chance to spoil PSU's title hopes next week
and then have big games against MSU and Indiana down
the stretch that Sparty and the Hoosiers will NEED for
any postseason hopes. I think the Boilers win their
two at home and lose the two on the road.

ILLINOIS (2-5 / 0-4)
--------
* REMAINING: Wisconsin, @ OSU, @ Purdue, Northwestern
* SjT PROJECTION: 2-9

The Illini are improved under Zook, and it's tough to
see them losing the rest of the way (but it's even
more difficult to pick who they'll beat, with their
best chance -- Purdue -- on the road ... hopefully
it's not NU in the finale). They won't be in the bowl
hunt, but they could play spoiler to both Wisconsin
and NU, who will be on upset alert when they visit
Champaign.

Of course, I'd LOVE to be wrong, have the Nits slip
somewhere along the way and NU win out and see the
CATS win the league title. The only things for sure --
it's gonna be a WILD finish and our game Saturday
night against Michigan will be HUGE in determining
whether we make it to a first-tier bowl or have to
hope to make a second-tier one.

GO CATS!!!
-SjT

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From NEONRye at aol.com  Sat Oct 22 18:33:35 2005
From: NEONRye at aol.com (NEONRye@aol.com)
Date: Sat Oct 22 18:34:50 2005
Subject: [NU Sports] 4Q: Michigan State game ...
Message-ID: <1a0.3f297d6f.308c264f@aol.com>

I agree with your thoughts, Michael, but am happy that RW did not pass in  
the latter stages.  I never want to rub our opponents' noses in the  dirt, since 
what goes around comes around.  As I said to my son when it  became 49-14, 
I'm used to seeing NU (or NW on ESPN) on the wrong side of that  equation.  
Let's savor the huge win, but let's not see Mr. Walker ever turn  into "Steve 
Superior" (even though our offense is beginning to look like  something Spurrier 
could have designed, albeit with a much better running  attack!).  Speaking of 
our Head Coach, I think RW's affect on the sideline  has been terrific, at 
least from the TV shots--upbeat, intense, yet stoic.   With GB, you always got 
the feeling he knew the camera was on him and his  "Hollywood" looks and he 
played to it during the good years.     The best shot of RW today was when he took 
his headset off with a little over a  minute left in the game.   No gloating, 
no glory, just a calm,  satisfied look that this was what he expected.  I've 
never seen an NU team  better prepared--our kicking game was superb; our 
tackling for the most part,  was awesome.  Just one bad play-call from where I 
sat--on my couch--and I  said it to my son before the snap and ultimate fumble.  
No way I call a  shotgun from the 1 1/2 yard line on 1st and Goal.  And then 
Tyrell put the  ball on the ground.   I was really scared at that point that he  
had put the season on the ground, too, but the defense rose up and smite  the 
Spartan empire (Troy--i.e., USC--couldn't have done it better  today.).   
Hope everyone doesn't get too nauseous with my hyperbole  here, but this team is 
just plain fun to pontificate about at this point.
 
Paul Levinson
From Hakirsch at aol.com  Sat Oct 22 18:36:16 2005
From: Hakirsch at aol.com (Hakirsch@aol.com)
Date: Sat Oct 22 18:37:43 2005
Subject: [NU Sports] Big Ten breakdown ...
Message-ID: <e2.1eca7a71.308c26f0@aol.com>

Does NU get hurt in the BCS rankings by Stanford upsetting ASU ?

Harry
From clzahn at mindspring.com  Sun Oct 23 00:54:54 2005
From: clzahn at mindspring.com (Clark Zahn)
Date: Sun Oct 23 00:57:36 2005
Subject: [NU Sports] Tickets for next game?
Message-ID: <435B25AE.2050702@mindspring.com>

My wife is finally getting interested in coming back for the homecoming 
game.  What are the chances of getting some decent tickets?

Thanks,

Clark Zahn

From bwdolphin146 at yahoo.com  Sun Oct 23 04:12:56 2005
From: bwdolphin146 at yahoo.com (Brad Wilson)
Date: Sun Oct 23 04:14:09 2005
Subject: [NU Sports] wow
Message-ID: <20051023091256.94580.qmail@web51309.mail.yahoo.com>

I have been a NU fan since 1984 and I cannot remember
a more dominating road win, especially in the league,
and very few home ones (2000 vs. Illinois would be
one).

I flipped through the media guide and I believe
Saturday's win is the largest margin of victory in a
BT road game for NU since 6 November 1943 (41-0 at
Wisconsin).

Saturday was our largest margin of victory EVER,
anywhere, vs. Michigan State -- surpassing 39-6 in
1917, which, for those of us WHITE SOX fans on the
list, is an excellent omen!!! (Sox/NU fans: this
Saturday was awesome. Next Saturday will be nirvana, I
predict.)

All hail these kids in purple and white. After ASU,
did anybody expect this? What a treat we have this
fall -- now let's finish the job. (Hint: Big Ten
title!)

Any guesses on what happened between ASU and PSU?
After the humiliation in the desert, our 'Cats have
been a different team -- one stop vs. PSU and they're
unbeaten in the league. What happened? What made the
difference? I suspect part of the defense's
improvement is just gaining experience, but that can't
explain everything. 

In the end, no analysis here -- just reveling in the
delight that is 2005 NU football. Bliss!!

bw













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From jmccull at insight.rr.com  Sun Oct 23 08:29:43 2005
From: jmccull at insight.rr.com (J.R. McCullough)
Date: Sun Oct 23 08:30:06 2005
Subject: [NU Sports] Tickets for next game?
References: <435B25AE.2050702@mindspring.com>
Message-ID: <000301c5d7d5$d498b270$6601a8c0@jroffice01>

WGN said there were still a few tickets remaining. 

J.R.
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Clark Zahn" <clzahn@mindspring.com>
To: "nulist" <nwu-sports@tssi.com>
Sent: Sunday, October 23, 2005 1:54 AM
Subject: [NU Sports] Tickets for next game?


> My wife is finally getting interested in coming back for the homecoming 
> game.  What are the chances of getting some decent tickets?
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> Clark Zahn
> 
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From jmccull at insight.rr.com  Sun Oct 23 08:53:52 2005
From: jmccull at insight.rr.com (J.R. McCullough)
Date: Sun Oct 23 08:54:13 2005
Subject: [NU Sports] wow
References: <20051023091256.94580.qmail@web51309.mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <000a01c5d7d9$343d6100$6601a8c0@jroffice01>

What happened?

* The coaches finally got the right mix of people in the secondary
* The youngsters got some experience
* The bye week allowed the coaches to analyze the game film and spring some 
surprises on our next foes

Also, Baz has taken a more vocal leadership role in the team since the Big 
Ten season began.

Most impressive, though, has been Baz. Only 1 INT all season, and that came 
during desperation time at the end of the PSU game. I suspect his stellar 
numbers have been a direct reflection on the opposition (we have not played 
a good defense since the PSU game). However, although it gets tougher the 
rest of the season, the O-line is seasoned now. They should be up to the 
task.


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Brad Wilson" <bwdolphin146@yahoo.com>
To: <nwu-sports@tssi.com>
Sent: Sunday, October 23, 2005 5:12 AM
Subject: [NU Sports] wow


>I have been a NU fan since 1984 and I cannot remember
> a more dominating road win, especially in the league,
> and very few home ones (2000 vs. Illinois would be
> one).
>
> I flipped through the media guide and I believe
> Saturday's win is the largest margin of victory in a
> BT road game for NU since 6 November 1943 (41-0 at
> Wisconsin).
>
> Saturday was our largest margin of victory EVER,
> anywhere, vs. Michigan State -- surpassing 39-6 in
> 1917, which, for those of us WHITE SOX fans on the
> list, is an excellent omen!!! (Sox/NU fans: this
> Saturday was awesome. Next Saturday will be nirvana, I
> predict.)
>
> All hail these kids in purple and white. After ASU,
> did anybody expect this? What a treat we have this
> fall -- now let's finish the job. (Hint: Big Ten
> title!)
>
> Any guesses on what happened between ASU and PSU?
> After the humiliation in the desert, our 'Cats have
> been a different team -- one stop vs. PSU and they're
> unbeaten in the league. What happened? What made the
> difference? I suspect part of the defense's
> improvement is just gaining experience, but that can't
> explain everything.
>
> In the end, no analysis here -- just reveling in the
> delight that is 2005 NU football. Bliss!!
>
> bw
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> "Entertainment is what which you receive without effort. Art is something 
> where you must make some kind of effort, and you get more than you had 
> before." -- Charles Wuorinen
>
> "Quis ipsos custodes custodiet?" -- Juvenal
>
>
>
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From jmccull at insight.rr.com  Sun Oct 23 08:57:22 2005
From: jmccull at insight.rr.com (J.R. McCullough)
Date: Sun Oct 23 08:57:42 2005
Subject: [NU Sports] Remaining Big Ten schedule
Message-ID: <000e01c5d7d9$b0fca6b0$6601a8c0@jroffice01>

We're tied for first with OSU, Wisconsin, and Penn State. Wisconsin and Penn State play each other, and we play OSU. Assuming we beat OSU, we need a PSU loss. They also host Purdue and finish away at MSU. Go Spartans! Go Badgers!

I'm not sure we should write off the OSU game. We match up very well with them. Their offense is average. They win with defense and special teams. I have confidence that Baz will be able to move the ball on them. He might not be able to do so at will, but at least we won't have to shut down an offensive machine every time we give the ball back. 

The key to the OSU game will be to contain them on special teams (their kick and punt return teams are killer), eliminate any drive-killing penalties, and force turnovers. We do that and we win the game. Of the three, the special teams containment will be the most challenging. 

J.R.
From Hakirsch at aol.com  Sun Oct 23 09:52:52 2005
From: Hakirsch at aol.com (Hakirsch@aol.com)
Date: Sun Oct 23 09:55:24 2005
Subject: [NU Sports] Remaining Big Ten schedule
Message-ID: <19c.3ed22683.308cfdc4@aol.com>

Going to be extremely tough to beat the Bucks at the 'Shoe--maybe can't write 
it off, but pretty close to sure thing

Harry
From tkmaycock at yahoo.com  Sun Oct 23 10:04:00 2005
From: tkmaycock at yahoo.com (Tom Maycock)
Date: Sun Oct 23 10:05:08 2005
Subject: [NU Sports] wow
In-Reply-To: <20051023091256.94580.qmail@web51309.mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <20051023150400.36375.qmail@web33115.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

> 
> Any guesses on what happened between ASU and PSU?
> After the humiliation in the desert, our 'Cats have
> been a different team 

I do think that the Cats have gotten better each and every week, which
has been very gratifying to watch. The offense (and offensive coaching
staff) are operating at an *extremely* high level. And the defense IS
getting better all the time

However, I also think ASU and PSU are probably the best teams we have
played so far, and that there's been a drop in the quality of the
opponents these last 3 weeks.

Purdue and MSU, and Wisconsin to a degree, all seem to have serious
issues on defense. Purdue has major issues on offense as well. MSU has
been terrific on offense up to now, but they shot themselves in the
foot on a number of occassions on Saturday, and that's a big part of
why the game turned into a blowout rather than a shootout.

So, while it has been tremendous to watch this NU team improve each
week, I think the level of competition goes way up the next 3 weeks.
We'll get a chance to see just how good this team can be. 

Can the O-line (perhaps the biggest surprise of the season so far?)
handle the Michigan/Iowa/Ohio State caliber of defensive line? Can our
receivers continue to get open against those folks? Can our defense
continue to improve enough to keep those games close? 

Personally, I think they can, and that we'll snare at least one of
those 3 games, maybe more. But it ain't gonna be easy. 

I actually think the Illinois game is going to be a big challenge as
well--lots at stake, and it's generally a "throw out the records" sort
of game.

Tom


From sjtruog at yahoo.com  Sun Oct 23 10:36:51 2005
From: sjtruog at yahoo.com (SjT (Stephen J. Truog))
Date: Sun Oct 23 10:38:00 2005
Subject: [NU Sports] wow
In-Reply-To: <20051023150400.36375.qmail@web33115.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <20051023153651.77956.qmail@web52907.mail.yahoo.com>

> > Any guesses on what happened between ASU and PSU?

I think the biggest difference on offense was the
addition of the downfield pass and Baz's ability to
throw it so well on the run. We were spreading the
field out horizontally to create running lanes, but
the Ds still kept 9 or 10 guys by the line of
scrimmage because we weren't throwing deep. Now if
they stack the box, Baz can go over the top and that's
spread things vertically as well as horizontally.

That's also the biggest difference between 2000 and
2005, IMO. In 2000, teams started to figure out that
if they stack the box and stop DA2, they could contain
this juggernaut offense. We've seen Purdue and MSU try
the last few weeks to do that and it's just given Baz
more highlight footage.

As for the D, I think the experience has helped. We
started a LOT of new kids on the line and in the
secondary, so they've gained experience. Also, we seem
to have changed philosophy there as well -- more
blitzes, more pressure and more hard-hitting coverage.
We'll be beaten at times, but we're forcing the issue
with pressure and press coverage instead of waiting
for the opposing team to pick us apart.

Finally, I think the senior leaders (#14 and #41) and
the coaches have really rallied the team. Walker seems
to thrive on this "us against the world" mentality and
the team has rallied around it after all those
questions following the 2-2 start.

> However, I also think ASU and PSU are probably the
> best teams we have
> played so far, and that there's been a drop in the

Dunno about that -- ASU has turned into the MSU of the
west and, after a strong start, fizzled as they moped
over the USC loss. But ASU did match up best against
us with a QB and receivers against our young
secondary.

Wisconsin's a pretty darn good team though, and PSU
looks better each week. So we're playing at a high
level this past month (MSU's got talent too -- they
just are quitting on the season, like ASU).

> So, while it has been tremendous to watch this NU
> team improve each
> week, I think the level of competition goes way up
> the next 3 weeks.

No doubt - Michigan and Iowa are always better teams
at the end of the season than in September, and OSU is
always tough at the Shoe.

> Can the O-line (perhaps the biggest surprise of the
> season so far?)

I'd agree there -- there were times yesterday that Baz
had time to make a call, tie his shoes and then find
which one of his 20 receivers he wanted to throw to
this down.

A split the rest of the way would be great -- 3-1 even
better and 4-0 perfect. But it all starts one game at
a time with Meeeeeeeechigan.

WEAR PURPLE!!!
MAKE NOISE!!!

GO CATS!!!
-SjT

* * * * * * * * *
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From nolan at romaine.tssi.com  Sun Oct 23 11:10:30 2005
From: nolan at romaine.tssi.com (Mike Nolan)
Date: Sun Oct 23 11:10:33 2005
Subject: [NU Sports] #23
Message-ID: <200510231610.j9NGAURY014991@romaine.tssi.com>

The coaches poll is out.  Northwestern is #23.

Michigan is not ranked but has 59 points, 10 points more than they had 
last week.
--
Mike Nolan


From Hakirsch at aol.com  Sun Oct 23 11:13:45 2005
From: Hakirsch at aol.com (Hakirsch@aol.com)
Date: Sun Oct 23 11:17:44 2005
Subject: [NU Sports] #23
Message-ID: <1a1.3f2ff452.308d10b9@aol.com>

In a message dated 10/23/2005 9:11:40 AM Pacific Daylight Time, 
nolan@romaine.tssi.com writes:

> The coaches poll is out.  Northwestern is #23.
> 
> Michigan is not ranked but has 59 points, 10 points more than they had 
> last week.
> --
> Mike Nolan
> 

Great to see we get soeme respect out there. Still predict Wolves  will be 
favored--If so it will be  a benefit --what better way to get team up for the 
game 

Harry Kirsch
From HUDHAIFA3 at aol.com  Sun Oct 23 11:19:54 2005
From: HUDHAIFA3 at aol.com (HUDHAIFA3@aol.com)
Date: Sun Oct 23 11:23:56 2005
Subject: [NU Sports] Chris Martin
Message-ID: <6a.60b5a4e2.308d122a@aol.com>

Congrats to the newly ranked NU Wildcats. 
 
After that great win yesterday I was flipping threw the gameplan and  noticed 
ex cornerback and Rose Bowl player #16 Chris Martin was announcing the  
Rutgers-Uconn game.
Thought it was kind of interesting
 
go Cats
From rstetson at capps-assoc.com  Sun Oct 23 12:05:39 2005
From: rstetson at capps-assoc.com (Roy Lamberton)
Date: Sun Oct 23 12:06:26 2005
Subject: [NU Sports] NU Sports News Digest 10/23
Message-ID: <000501c5d7f3$fedd2de0$6500a8c0@DAVIDXP>

www.PurpleWildcats.com
for Purple Reign
& the NU Sports List


Expect Victory (III) Edition

"Katie Bar the Door" - here comes the Northwestern Wildcat Defense. Lots of post
game stories, and analysis from both sides of the field, Plus, Links to Field
Hockey, Golf, Soccer, Swimming, Tennis Volleyball, plus Alumni reports too...

                                              All the News that Fits We Link
                                                  Your Index to News about
                                               Northwestern University Athletics


FOOTBALL

     Game Stories
     Basanez, Wildcats Bury No. 22 Spartans, 49-14
      http://www.fansonly.com/schools/nw/sports/m-footbl/recaps/102205aaa.html 
     + Roll 'em Up - NU 49 - MSU 14
      http://northwestern.foxsports.scout.com/2/456151.html?refid=400 
     + Wildcats in tune on road
 
http://chicagosports.chicagotribune.com/sports/college/cs-051022nugamer,1,142812
9.story?coll=cs-college-headlines 
     + Good play, bad luck for Smith
 
http://chicagosports.chicagotribune.com/sports/college/cs-051022nubits,1,727904.
story?coll=cs-college-headlines 
     + NU puts it all together
      http://www.suntimes.com/output/campus/cst-spt-nu23.html 
     + Basanez gives an arm and two legs in victory
      http://www.suntimes.com/output/campus/cst-spt-jenn23.html 
     + 'Cats Spoil Spartan Homecoming.
      http://www.wnur.org/sports/ 
     + Wildcats do everything right
      http://www.dailyherald.com/sports/sportsstory.asp?id=110109 
     + College Football: Northwestern 49, No. 22 Michigan State 14
      http://www.dailysouthtown.com/southtown/dssports/pro/232sd6.htm 
     + Basanez, Sutton combine for 6 of Northwestern's TDs in rout
 
http://www.mercurynews.com/mld/mercurynews/sports/12973026.htm&cid=1101916450 
     + Basanez drives Wildcats' rout
 
http://www.indystar.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article%3FAID%3D/20051023/SPORTS/510230415
/1004/SPORTS&cid=0 
     + Wildcats wallop sputtering Spartans
 
http://www.cleveland.com/sports/plaindealer/index.ssf%3F/base/sports/11300600793
13170.xml%26coll%3D2&cid=0 
     + Northwestern 49, Michigan State 14
 
http://www.upi.com/NewsTrack/view.php%3FStoryID%3D20051022-053859-5295r&cid=0 
     + "We finally...put an entire game together"
      http://northwestern.scout.com/2/456243.html 
     $ "The offense is clicking" -- Brett Basanez
      http://northwestern.scout.com/2/456233.html 
     $ What Defensive Woes? Northwestern Wins Big
      http://northwestern.scout.com/2/456164.html 
     + Northwestern Trounces No. 22 Michigan St.
      http://chicago.comcastsportsnet.com/view_content.asp?ID=17816 
     + Basanez powers Northwestern rout of reeling Spartans
      http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/recap?gameId=252950127 
     + CFN Update
      http://www.collegefootballnews.com/Big_Ten/Northwestern.htm 
     + winning a huge game
      http://hailtopurple.com/cats5j22a.html 

     Guy Benson responds to Northwestern's Big Win
      http://sports.wnur.org/analysts/gb102205.html 
     GoUPurple Central Street Football.
      http://hailtopurple.com/features/centralstreet100.html 
     Kubat Northwestern QB, OSU linebacker my top players
 
http://www.lafayettejc.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20051022/COLUMNISTS09/5102
20328/1037/SPORTS 

     Schultz enjoying Wildcats' success
 
http://www.battlecreekenquirer.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article%3FAID%3D/20051023/SPORT
S/510230333/1006&cid=0 

     Basanez, Stanton could be twins
      http://www.freep.com/sports/michstate/msu22e_20051022.htm 
     + Player of the game: Brett Basanez
      http://www.detnews.com/2005/msu/0510/23/C07-358102.htm 
     + Breaks QB Starting Win Record
      http://scout.scout.com/a.z?s=179&p=9&c=2&cid=456149&nid=1873165&fhn=1 

>From the Spartan side Michigan State Spartans

     Spartans Fall To Wildcats
      http://www.fansonly.com/schools/msu/sports/m-footbl/recaps/102205aaa.html 
     + Northwestern surges past slumping Spartans, 29-14
      http://www.freep.com/news/latestnews/pm6862_20051022.htm&cid=1101916450 
     + Wildcats pressure Stanton all game
      http://www.detnews.com/2005/msu/0510/22/C07-358024.htm&cid=0 
     + Northwestern charters new road path in rout of Michigan State
      http://www.mercurynews.com/mld/mercurynews/sports/12973012.htm&cid=0 
     + Stanton, Spartans ugly in 49-14 blowout loss
      http://michiganstate.scout.com/2/456264.html 
     + ONLINE UPDATE: Not again
      http://www.statenews.com/article.phtml?pk=32552 
     + Basanez outshines Stanton as MSU gets pummeled
 
http://www.mlive.com/spartans/stories/index.ssf?/base/sports-0/1130019001204560.
xml&coll=1 
     + One bright note for MSU: Secondary allows only 2 TD passes
 
http://www.mlive.com/spartans/stories/index.ssf?/base/sports-0/113006221984860.x
ml&coll=1 
     + Homecoming horror show
 
http://www.greenandwhite.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20051023/GW01/510230713/
1023/GW 
     + For once, Stanton turns in a clunker
 
http://www.greenandwhite.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20051023/GW01/510230718/
1023/GW 
     + Wildcats QB keeps wanting more
 
http://www.greenandwhite.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20051023/GW01/510230711/
1023/GW 
     + Spartan season collapsing
      http://www.mlive.com/spartans/football/stories/index.ssf 
     + 1965 team watches as MSU displays all-too-familiar collapse 
 
http://www.mlive.com/spartans/grpress/football/index.ssf?/base/sports-0/11300625
42102940.xml&coll=6 
     + Why Is It?
 
http://www.mlive.com/spartans/weblog/index.ssf?/mtlogs/mlive_grinzongreen/archiv
es/2005_10.html#088754 
     + DREW SHARP: Smith seems to be losing his grip
      http://www.freep.com/sports/michstate/drew22e_20051022.htm 
     + Stanton, Spartans collapse
      http://www.detnews.com/2005/msu/0510/23/C01-358114.htm 
     + MSU's collapse is 'shock'
      http://www.detnews.com/2005/msu/0510/23/C07-358106.htm 
     + Henning: Spartans' list of shortcomings is long
      http://www.detnews.com/2005/msu/0510/23/C07-358105.htm 
     + Wildcats pressure flusters Stanton
      http://www.detnews.com/2005/msu/0510/23/C07-358107.htm 

Next Up

     Michigan Wolverines [10/29 Homecoming] 

     Football Snaps Iowa Home Winning Streak in Overtime
      http://www.mgoblue.com/document_display.cfm?document_id=19385 
     + U-M plays home wrecker
      http://www.detnews.com/2005/um/0510/23/C01-358288.htm 
     + Wojnowski U-M shows guts in face of adversity
      http://www.detnews.com/2005/um/0510/23/C01-358289.htm 
     + Running game key for Varsity
      http://www.michigandaily.com/vnews/display.v/ART/2005/10/21/435878a9514f5 
     + Nonstop drama Fourth-string tailback is the difference in overtime
thriller 
 
http://www.mlive.com/wolverines/aanews/football/index.ssf?/base/sports-1/1130062
32884900.xml&coll=2 
     + Carr hits 100 mark in victories
      http://www.detnews.com/2005/um/0510/23/C06-358099.htm 
     + Player of the game: Jerome Jackson
      http://www.detnews.com/2005/um/0510/23/C06-358096.htm 

Future Big 10 Opponents:

     Iowa Hawkeyes [11/5] - Lost to Michigan
     @ Ohio State Buckeyes [11/12]  Beat Indiana 41-10
     Illinois Fighting Illini [11/19]
     College Football: No. 12 Penn State 63, Illinois 10
      http://www.dailysouthtown.com/southtown/dssports/pro/232sd8.htm 

     College Football Big Ten/State Roundup
      http://www.dailysouthtown.com/southtown/dssports/pro/232sd9.htm 

Miscellaneous Football News:

     First Place remains a tight race in the Big Ten through Week Five
 
http://www.fansonly.com/schools/big10/sports/m-footbl/spec-rel/102205aad.html 
     USC rolls to 29th straight victory 
 
http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/rssclick/2005/football/ncaa/10/22/bc.fbc.t25.us
c.washington.ap/index.html?section=si_ncaaf 

Recruiting

     Osahon Tongo Enjoys First Visit
      http://scout.scout.com/a.z?s=179&p=9&c=2&cid=455498&nid=1803305&fhn=1 

BASKETBALL

     2005-06 Conference Schedule
 
http://www.cstv.com/auto_pdf/p_hotos/s_chools/big10/sports/m-baskbl/auto_pdf/06B
igTenMBBSchedule 

FIELD HOCKEY

     Spartans Slip Past Northwestern, 4-1
      http://www.fansonly.com/schools/nw/sports/w-fieldh/recaps/102205aab.html 
     + Northwestern Set to Square Off With Spartans
      http://nusports.collegesports.com/sports/w-fieldh/spec-rel/102105aaa.html 

GOLF

     Wildcats in 13th Place at Mercedes
      http://www.fansonly.com/schools/nw/sports/w-golf/recaps/102205aaa.html 
     + Northwestern in 12th Place at Mercedes-Benz Championships
      http://nusports.collegesports.com/sports/w-golf/recaps/102105aaa.html 

SOCCER

     Men
     Wilcats Tame Lions, 2-0
      http://nusports.collegesports.com/sports/m-soccer/recaps/102105aab.html 

     Women
     Lowey's Late Heroics Lift Northwestern Past Ohio State, 2-1
      http://nusports.collegesports.com/sports/w-soccer/recaps/102105aaa.html 
     + Injuries force frosh to step up their roles
 
http://www.dailynorthwestern.com/vnews/display.v/ART/2005/10/21/43587e8da013b 

SWIMMING

     Texas A&M Edges Northwestern, 149.5-144.5
      http://www.fansonly.com/schools/nw/sports/m-swim/recaps/102205aac.html 

TENNIS

     Wildcats Advance on First Day of Main Draw Singles Play at the 2005 ITA
Midwest Regional Championships
      http://www.fansonly.com/schools/nw/sports/w-tennis/recaps/102305aab.html 
     + Wildcat Doubles Teams Wrap Up Second Day at ITA Midwest Regional
Championships
      http://www.fansonly.com/schools/nw/sports/w-tennis/spec-rel/102205aaa.html



      Day Three at the 2005 ITA Midwest Regional Championships
      http://www.fansonly.com/schools/nw/sports/m-tennis/recaps/102305aaa.html 
     + Wildcats Doubles Teams Compete in Second Day of 2005 ITA Midwest Regional
Championships
      http://www.fansonly.com/schools/nw/sports/m-tennis/recaps/102205aaa.html 

VOLLEYBALL

     Northwestern Falls in Five at Michigan State
      http://www.fansonly.com/schools/nw/sports/w-volley/recaps/102205aab.html 
     + Spartan Volleyball Downs Northwestern In Five
      http://www.fansonly.com/schools/msu/sports/w-volley/recaps/102205aaa.html 

MISCELLANY

     Student dies after goal-post accident 
      http://msn.foxsports.com/cfb/story/5017020?CMP=OTC-K9B140813162&ATT=24 

ALUMNI

     Chris Hinton: Former NU star goes from line to wine
      http://www.suntimes.com/output/campus/cst-spt-joe23.html&cid=0 

     Luis Castillo [Audio] talks to the media about the Philadelphia Eagles
 
http://play.rbn.com/?url=nfl/nfl/open/chargers/demand/2005/season/101905_castill
o.rm 

     Joe Girardi Girardi offers Marlins aggressive style
 
http://florida.marlins.mlb.com/NASApp/mlb/news/article.jsp?ymd=20051021&content_
id=1256473&vkey=news_fla&fext=.jsp&c_id=fla 
     + Girardi eager to bring workaholic attitude
      http://www.miami.com/mld/miamiherald/sports/baseball/12958190.htm 
     + Linda Robertson A natural leader, Girardi ready to impart lessons
      http://www.miami.com/mld/miamiherald/sports/baseball/12958189.htm 
     + Girardi not your ordinary Joe
      http://www.miami.com/mld/miamiherald/sports/baseball/12947723.htm 
     + Greg Cote Girardi brings team a needed breath of fresh air
      http://www.miami.com/mld/miamiherald/sports/baseball/12947716.htm 

     PGA: [Links on Player's Name is their live scorecard]
     Luke Donald - Next scheduled for the Volvo Masters Andalucia
      http://www.sponsorship.volvo.com/vma2004/ 

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From NEONRye at aol.com  Sun Oct 23 13:00:25 2005
From: NEONRye at aol.com (NEONRye@aol.com)
Date: Sun Oct 23 13:04:24 2005
Subject: [NU Sports] No. 21 in Sportswriters' Poll
Message-ID: <12f.68645392.308d29b9@aol.com>

That's right, folks--as of 1:38 p.m. E.D.T. the poll is out.  Shout it  loud 
and proud:  We're No. 21.  Here's the link:  
_http://www.sportsline.com/collegefootball/polls_ (http://www.sportsline.com/collegefootball/polls) 
 
Paul Levinson
From NEONRye at aol.com  Sun Oct 23 13:13:03 2005
From: NEONRye at aol.com (NEONRye@aol.com)
Date: Sun Oct 23 13:14:31 2005
Subject: [NU Sports] No. 21 in Sportswriters' Poll
Message-ID: <86.335c0668.308d2caf@aol.com>

Make sure you click on "Polls" for link.  By the way Mich. is No.  25.
From rstetson at capps-assoc.com  Sun Oct 23 17:49:40 2005
From: rstetson at capps-assoc.com (Roy Lamberton)
Date: Sun Oct 23 17:56:51 2005
Subject: [NU Sports] #23
In-Reply-To: <200510231610.j9NGAURY014991@romaine.tssi.com>
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Interesting that we beat #22, and #15, but we're no higher than 23?

I guess we'll just have to humble Michigan, and dOSU to get any respect.

Go Cats

rsl

  

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> -----Original Message-----
> From: nwu-sports-bounces@tssi.com 
> [mailto:nwu-sports-bounces@tssi.com] On Behalf Of Mike Nolan
> Sent: Sunday, October 23, 2005 12:11 PM
> To: nwu-sports@romaine.tssi.com
> Subject: [NU Sports] #23
> 
> 
> The coaches poll is out.  Northwestern is #23.
> 
> Michigan is not ranked but has 59 points, 10 points more than 
> they had 
> last week.
> --
> Mike Nolan
> 
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From cherron604 at aol.com  Sun Oct 23 22:22:36 2005
From: cherron604 at aol.com (cherron604@aol.com)
Date: Sun Oct 23 22:35:22 2005
Subject: [NU Sports] Michigan
Message-ID: <8C7A661508DE817-120C-D79@FWM-R25.sysops.aol.com>

Michigan opened at minus 4, and in some lines now they are at -3
 
Chuck Herron   Tech 85
From Hakirsch at aol.com  Sun Oct 23 22:56:42 2005
From: Hakirsch at aol.com (Hakirsch@aol.com)
Date: Sun Oct 23 23:00:46 2005
Subject: [NU Sports] Michigan
Message-ID: <db.3096560e.308db57a@aol.com>

In a message dated 10/23/2005 8:36:03 PM Pacific Daylight Time, 
cherron604@aol.com writes:

> Michigan opened at minus 4, and in some lines now they are at -3
> 
> Chuck Herron   Tech 85
> 

May drop to 1 1/2 -2 points by game time but I knew there was no way we would 
open up as a favorite--too many people love betting on the big names

Harry Kirsch
From michael.vance at att.net  Sun Oct 23 23:16:15 2005
From: michael.vance at att.net (Michael Vance)
Date: Mon Oct 24 00:13:09 2005
Subject: [NU Sports] 4Q: Michigan State game ...
In-Reply-To: <1a0.3f297d6f.308c264f@aol.com>
Message-ID: <5.2.0.9.0.20051023230406.045477e8@ipostoffice.worldnet.att.net>

And that's exactly why my preference would have been to put Bacher in for 
the entire fourth quarter, when it was 42-7.  We were still passing on that 
drive, but at that point, up by 35 with 15:00 to go, I finally felt 
comfortable with the lead.  So get the backup get some valuable reps with 
the chance to score.  I would have liked for C.J. to have gotten one real 
drive; we most likely won't get any more chances for that until the 
Illinois game (although that's what anyone would have said about 
yesterday's game, too).  I think we missed out on a valuable opportunity, 
one that we hopefully won't regret next year.  That's one thing that the 
insiders of the big-time programs will tell you helps keep the programs 
going, is being able to get next year's starters real game-situation 
experience for an entire drive, if not an entire quarter.

-Michael

At 10/22/2005 06:33 PM, NEONRye@aol.com wrote:
>I agree with your thoughts, Michael, but am happy that RW did not pass in 
>the latter stages.  I never want to rub our opponents' noses in the dirt, 
>since what goes around comes around.

From michael.vance at att.net  Mon Oct 24 00:12:27 2005
From: michael.vance at att.net (Michael Vance)
Date: Mon Oct 24 00:13:12 2005
Subject: [NU Sports] Big Ten breakdown ...
In-Reply-To: <20051022232548.78322.qmail@web52913.mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <5.2.0.9.0.20051023234031.0454b9f0@ipostoffice.worldnet.att.net>

I'm going to differ with Stephen on a couple of things (and correct one 
minor error).

First the error: The Buckeyes will finish 9-2/7-1 if they win out, not 10-1

I truly believe, after watching the 'Cats improve on both sides of the ball 
over the last three weeks, that we will win both remaining home games and 
the game @ Illinois to finish 8-3/6-2.  I pretty much agree with the rest 
of your analysis, which makes the final standings, in order by conference 
tie-breakers (which I realize only apply to the BCS bid):

PSU             10-1    7-1 (Fiesta)
dOSU            9-2     7-1 (Citrus; I don't think the second BCS bid is 
happening this year)
NU              8-3     6-2 (If life is fair, we go to Tampa; I know, bowl 
bids aren't fair, but a guy can hope)
Wisconsin       9-2     6-2 (Alamo)
Minnesota       8-3     5-3 (Sun)
Michigan        6-5     4-4 (Music City)
MSU             6-5     3-5 (Motor City)
Iowa            5-6     3-5
Indiana 5-6     2-6
Purdue  3-8     1-7
Illinois                2-9     0-8

Key differences: I think Minny only loses one more and Purdue only wins one 
more.  MSU benefits from the total demoralization of Purdue to squeak into 
bowl qualification, but Iowa slips out by losing Floyd to the Gophers after 
two tough road losses to NU and Wisconsin.  The only upset that Indiana 
pulls is in the Bucket game, and that probably won't be considered an upset 
by then.

I want us playing on New Year's Day.  If we beat Michigan and Iowa, play 
tough in the 'Shoe, and beat Illinois, our offense will be too exciting for 
the Outback to turn down, especially in favor of a team we beat, even if it 
is the Traveling Cheeseheads.

Am I looking through purple colored glasses?  Maybe, but the team I saw 
yesterday can not be stopped cold by any defense in this conference except 
for maybe OSU in the 'Shoe.  And our own defense is improving 
steadily.  They are still giving up a ton of yards between the 20s, but 
they have a +2 turnover margin in conference games and have been generating 
75% of their turnovers in the red zone, so I'm OK with that.

-Michael

At 10/22/2005 06:25 PM, SjT \(Stephen J. Truog\) wrote:
>THE FAVORITES
>=============
>PENN STATE (7-1 / 4-1 * if they win tonight)
>----------
>* REMAINING GAMES: Purdue, Wisconsin, @MSU
>* SjT PROJECTION: 10-1 - Fiesta Bowl vs. Notre
>Dame/UCLA
>
>OHIO STATE (5-2 / 3-1)
>----------
>* REMAINING GAMES: @ Minnesota, Illinois, NU, @ Mich.
>* SjT PROJECTION: 10-1 - Citrus Bowl vs. Florida
>
>WISCONSIN (7-1 / 4-1)
>---------
>* REMAINING GAMES: @ Illinois, @ PSU, Iowa, @ Hawaii
>* SjT PROJECTION: 10-2 - Outback Bowl vs. Tennessee
>
>THE DARKHORSES
>==============
>NORTHWESTERN (5-2 / 3-1)
>------------
>* REMAINING GAMES: Michigan, Iowa, @ OSU, @ Illinois
>* SjT PROJECTION: 7-4 - Music City Bowl vs. S.Carolina
>(though the Alamo vs. Texas Tech might be more fun for
>a promotional standpoint - first one to 100 wins!
>YEEHAW!)
>
>MICHIGAN (5-3 / 3-2)
>--------
>* REMAINING: @ Northwestern, Indiana, Ohio State
>* SjT PROJECTION: 7-4 - Alamo Bowl vs. Oklahoma
>
>BOWL CONTENDERS
>===============
>IOWA (5-3 / 3-2)
>----
>* REMAINING: @ Northwestern, @ Wisconsin, Minnesota
>* SjT PROJECTION: 6-5 - Sun Bowl vs. Oregon
>
>MINNESOTA (5-2 / 2-2)
>---------
>* REMAINING: Ohio State, @ Indiana, MSU, @ Iowa
>* SjT PROJECTION: 6-5 - Motor City Bowl vs. Bowling
>Green
>
>MICHIGAN STATE (4-3 / 1-3)
>--------------
>* REMAINING: Indiana, @ Purdue, @ Minnesota, PSU
>* SjT PROJECTION: 5-6
>
>INDIANA (4-3 / 1-3)
>-------
>* REMAINING: @ MSU, Minnesota, @ Michigan, Purdue
>* SjT PROJECTION: 6-5 - Insight vs. California
>
>THE SPOILERS
>============
>PURDUE (2-5 / 0-4)
>------
>* REMAINING: @ PSU, MSU, Illinois, @ Indiana
>* SjT PROJECTION: 4-7
>
>ILLINOIS (2-5 / 0-4)
>--------
>* REMAINING: Wisconsin, @ OSU, @ Purdue, Northwestern
>* SjT PROJECTION: 2-9

From spiritu at northwestern.edu  Mon Oct 24 00:40:56 2005
From: spiritu at northwestern.edu (Jonathan Michael Hawkins)
Date: Mon Oct 24 00:42:10 2005
Subject: [NU Sports] Big Ten breakdown ...
In-Reply-To: <5.2.0.9.0.20051023234031.0454b9f0@ipostoffice.worldnet.att.net>
References: <5.2.0.9.0.20051023234031.0454b9f0@ipostoffice.worldnet.att.net>
Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.64.0510240035350.1197@localhost>

> PSU             10-1    7-1 (Fiesta)
> dOSU            9-2     7-1 (Citrus; I don't think the second BCS bid is 
> happening this year)
> NU              8-3     6-2 (If life is fair, we go to Tampa; I know, bowl 
> bids aren't fair, but a guy can hope)
> Wisconsin       9-2     6-2 (Alamo)
> Minnesota       8-3     5-3 (Sun)
> Michigan        6-5     4-4 (Music City)
> MSU             6-5     3-5 (Motor City)

Michael, a guy *can* hope, but short of winning the B10 outright, I think 
Alamo's the best we can do.  The bowl committees just don't like us and I 
don't see that changing any time soon.

Beating the snot out of Michigan this week on national TV might help that 
cause out, however.  Here's hoping we spank Michigan's other cheek this 
week.

Go 'Cats,

Jonathan

From Hakirsch at aol.com  Mon Oct 24 00:49:35 2005
From: Hakirsch at aol.com (Hakirsch@aol.com)
Date: Mon Oct 24 07:07:50 2005
Subject: [NU Sports] Big Ten breakdown ...
Message-ID: <dd.309d2c06.308dcfef@aol.com>

In a message dated 10/23/2005 10:43:13 PM Pacific Daylight Time, 
spiritu@northwestern.edu writes:

> PSU        10-1   7-1 (Fiesta)
> >dOSU       9-2    7-1 (Citrus; I don't think the second BCS bid is 
> >happening this year)
> >NU        8-3    6-2 (If life is fair, we go to Tampa; I know, bowl 
> >bids aren't fair, but a guy can hope)
> >Wisconsin     9-2    6-2 (Alamo)
> >Minnesota     8-3    5-3 (Sun)
> >Michigan     6-5    4-4 (Music City)
> >MSU        6-5    3-5 (Motor City)
> 
> Michael, a guy *can* hope, but short of winning the B10 outright, I think 
> Alamo's the best we can do.  The bowl committees just don't like us and I 
> don't see that changing any time soon.
> 
> Beating the snot out of Michigan this week on national TV might help that 
> cause out, however.  Here's hoping we spank Michigan's other cheek this 
> week.
> 
> 

Though remember when we got screwed in 2000 it was that Michigan and Ohio 
State got better bowl bids than us--those are big name programs --If we deserve 
to go to the Citrus Bowl based on record or head to head tie-breaker they won't 
take Wisky over us

Harry
From jeffb at hilgraeve.com  Mon Oct 24 10:20:18 2005
From: jeffb at hilgraeve.com (Jeff Beamsley)
Date: Mon Oct 24 10:25:08 2005
Subject: [NU Sports] No. 21 in Sportswriters' Poll
In-Reply-To: <12f.68645392.308d29b9@aol.com>
Message-ID: <031d01c5d8ae$710b4400$97492745@hilgraeve.com>

We are definitely not in Kansas any more.

The White Sox are 2-0 in the WS.
The Bears are tied for first in the NFC North.
The Cats are ranked in the top 25, appear to have a legit chance to have the
first winning season since 2000, go to a bowl, and beat UoM.

What a country!

Jeff


 

-----Original Message-----
From: nwu-sports-bounces@tssi.com [mailto:nwu-sports-bounces@tssi.com] On
Behalf Of NEONRye@aol.com
Sent: Sunday, October 23, 2005 2:00 PM
To: nwu-sports@romaine.tssi.com
Subject: [NU Sports] No. 21 in Sportswriters' Poll

That's right, folks--as of 1:38 p.m. E.D.T. the poll is out.  Shout it  loud
and proud:  We're No. 21.  Here's the link:  
_http://www.sportsline.com/collegefootball/polls_
(http://www.sportsline.com/collegefootball/polls) 
 
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From jleonard518 at yahoo.com  Mon Oct 24 14:02:27 2005
From: jleonard518 at yahoo.com (Jim Leonard)
Date: Mon Oct 24 14:03:36 2005
Subject: [NU Sports] 6-2 wins it......
In-Reply-To: <5.2.0.9.0.20051023234031.0454b9f0@ipostoffice.worldnet.att.net>
Message-ID: <20051024190227.21275.qmail@web30301.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

Fellow Wildcat Faithful,

I am predicting that there will be a 4-way split of the Big Ten title this
year. Penn State will beat Wisconsin on Senior Day and lose to MSU. The MSU v.
PSU games have led to several upsets in recent years. I think NU wins 3 of 4,
losing to OSU. And of course, no matter what the record, OSU loses at Michigan.


That being said, I bet we are passed over until we play somewhere in Texas. 

Victory & Honor,
Jim


> >PENN STATE (7-1 / 4-1 * if they win tonight)
> >----------
> >* REMAINING GAMES: Purdue, Wisconsin, @MSU

> >OHIO STATE (5-2 / 3-1)
> >----------
> >* REMAINING GAMES: @ Minnesota, Illinois, NU, @ Mich.

> >WISCONSIN (7-1 / 4-1)
> >---------
> >* REMAINING GAMES: @ Illinois, @ PSU, Iowa, @ Hawaii

> >NORTHWESTERN (5-2 / 3-1)
> >------------
> >* REMAINING GAMES: Michigan, Iowa, @ OSU, @ Illinois



	
		
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From whosonfirst81 at yahoo.com  Mon Oct 24 14:17:36 2005
From: whosonfirst81 at yahoo.com (Ben Adler)
Date: Mon Oct 24 14:18:51 2005
Subject: [NU Sports] Basanez/NU feature in today's NY Times
In-Reply-To: <031d01c5d8ae$710b4400$97492745@hilgraeve.com>
Message-ID: <20051024191737.21274.qmail@web60715.mail.yahoo.com>

The story
http://www.nytimes.com/2005/10/24/sports/ncaafootball/24colleges.html
includes this quote:
 
"I don't want to take anything away from anyone," the Penn State defensive coordinator, Tom Bradley, said by phone, "but if [Basanez is] not the best quarterback in the country, wow, I don't know who is."


		
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From jleonard518 at yahoo.com  Mon Oct 24 15:52:48 2005
From: jleonard518 at yahoo.com (Jim Leonard)
Date: Mon Oct 24 15:53:57 2005
Subject: [NU Sports] Hart's Status?
In-Reply-To: <86.335c0668.308d2caf@aol.com>
Message-ID: <20051024205248.38759.qmail@web30305.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

All,

Below is from an article on rivals.com. Has anyone heard anything more about
Hart's status? Michigan is a completely different team when he is not on the
field. 

Jim

Michael Hart ? He insisted after the game that he'll be ready to go for
Northwestern. How much of that was just bravado will be proven this week,
obviously. Both Hart and wideout Jason Avant will be healing some serious hurts
this week. At this time of year, most every regular has something, but the
Wolverines need these two in order to keep their scramble back into the Big Ten
race going.


	
		
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From jeffb at hilgraeve.com  Mon Oct 24 16:13:32 2005
From: jeffb at hilgraeve.com (Jeff Beamsley)
Date: Mon Oct 24 16:18:20 2005
Subject: [NU Sports] Hart's Status?
In-Reply-To: <20051024205248.38759.qmail@web30305.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <047901c5d8df$ca1e30d0$97492745@hilgraeve.com>

Carr is usually very reluctant to say anything about the status of players.

The fact that Jackson played well toward the end of the game will probably
keep Hart on the sidelines.  If it is possible, Carr wants to have him
healthy for the OSU game and if that means keeping him out of the NU and
Indiana games, I think he'll do it.

Jeff


-----Original Message-----
From: nwu-sports-bounces@tssi.com [mailto:nwu-sports-bounces@tssi.com] On
Behalf Of Jim Leonard
Sent: Monday, October 24, 2005 4:53 PM
To: nwu-sports@romaine.tssi.com
Subject: [NU Sports] Hart's Status?

All,

Below is from an article on rivals.com. Has anyone heard anything more about
Hart's status? Michigan is a completely different team when he is not on the
field. 

Jim

Michael Hart - He insisted after the game that he'll be ready to go for
Northwestern. How much of that was just bravado will be proven this week,
obviously. Both Hart and wideout Jason Avant will be healing some serious
hurts this week. At this time of year, most every regular has something, but
the Wolverines need these two in order to keep their scramble back into the
Big Ten race going.


	
		
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From rstetson at capps-assoc.com  Mon Oct 24 17:32:53 2005
From: rstetson at capps-assoc.com (Roy S. Lamberton)
Date: Mon Oct 24 17:33:09 2005
Subject: [NU Sports] Hart's Status?
In-Reply-To: <047901c5d8df$ca1e30d0$97492745@hilgraeve.com>
References: <047901c5d8df$ca1e30d0$97492745@hilgraeve.com>
Message-ID: <435D6115.7050103@capps-assoc.com>

FWIW - we'll put up anything about UM Players being hurt on Friday in 
the Intel Report.

Before that, I'm reluctant to say anything because we just won't know. 
Carr keeps everything under wraps anyway.

rsl

Jeff Beamsley wrote:

>Carr is usually very reluctant to say anything about the status of players.
>
>The fact that Jackson played well toward the end of the game will probably
>keep Hart on the sidelines.  If it is possible, Carr wants to have him
>healthy for the OSU game and if that means keeping him out of the NU and
>Indiana games, I think he'll do it.
>
>Jeff
>
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: nwu-sports-bounces@tssi.com [mailto:nwu-sports-bounces@tssi.com] On
>Behalf Of Jim Leonard
>Sent: Monday, October 24, 2005 4:53 PM
>To: nwu-sports@romaine.tssi.com
>Subject: [NU Sports] Hart's Status?
>
>All,
>
>Below is from an article on rivals.com. Has anyone heard anything more about
>Hart's status? Michigan is a completely different team when he is not on the
>field. 
>
>Jim
>
>Michael Hart - He insisted after the game that he'll be ready to go for
>Northwestern. How much of that was just bravado will be proven this week,
>obviously. Both Hart and wideout Jason Avant will be healing some serious
>hurts this week. At this time of year, most every regular has something, but
>the Wolverines need these two in order to keep their scramble back into the
>Big Ten race going.
>
>
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From nolan at romaine.tssi.com  Mon Oct 24 17:46:13 2005
From: nolan at romaine.tssi.com (Mike Nolan)
Date: Mon Oct 24 17:46:18 2005
Subject: [NU Sports] Hart's Status? (fwd)
Message-ID: <200510242246.j9OMkDsC001322@romaine.tssi.com>

> FWIW - we'll put up anything about UM Players being hurt on Friday in 
> the Intel Report.

Maybe I missed it, but any injury reports on our guys?  (And am I the only
one who thought that MSU took a bit of a cheap shot on that post-interception
tackle of Brendan Smith?)
--
Mike Nolan

From NEONRye at aol.com  Mon Oct 24 18:09:07 2005
From: NEONRye at aol.com (NEONRye@aol.com)
Date: Mon Oct 24 18:13:03 2005
Subject: [NU Sports] Michigan
Message-ID: <110.552c5b0f.308ec393@aol.com>

As others have stated, I hope we stay as 'dogs.  The more RW has to  motivate 
them, the better--although National TV, under the lights, Homecoming  and in 
the Top 25 are a pretty good place to start.:-)
 
Paul Levinson
From Hakirsch at aol.com  Mon Oct 24 18:14:23 2005
From: Hakirsch at aol.com (Hakirsch@aol.com)
Date: Mon Oct 24 18:18:23 2005
Subject: [NU Sports] Michigan
Message-ID: <1d8.486cd186.308ec4cf@aol.com>

Wonder if a ranked team has ever been underdog to an unranked team at 
home--(at least in one poll)

Harry
From jonathanwhodges at gmail.com  Mon Oct 24 18:51:35 2005
From: jonathanwhodges at gmail.com (Jonathan Hodges)
Date: Mon Oct 24 18:52:40 2005
Subject: [NU Sports] Hart's Status? (fwd)
In-Reply-To: <200510242246.j9OMkDsC001322@romaine.tssi.com>
References: <200510242246.j9OMkDsC001322@romaine.tssi.com>
Message-ID: <fcb3ee270510241651o4f8014bat91b0c4422eb42c27@mail.gmail.com>

Brendan Smith had an MRI Saturday night after returning, according to
Coach Walker, who also admitted that our defensive secondary is
becoming rather thin in terms of depth.  I was at the stadium on
Saturday when the team returned along with some current students (all
in NUMB), as mentioned in this New York Times article:

http://www.nytimes.com/2005/10/24/sports/ncaafootball/24colleges.html

The hit on Smith did not look dirty, Stanton was just tackling at the
knees and happened to hit him in the wrong spot.  In any case, I'm
sure Smith's status will be released later this week.

Jonathan

On 10/24/05, Mike Nolan <nolan@romaine.tssi.com> wrote:
> > FWIW - we'll put up anything about UM Players being hurt on Friday in
> > the Intel Report.
>
> Maybe I missed it, but any injury reports on our guys?  (And am I the only
> one who thought that MSU took a bit of a cheap shot on that post-interception
> tackle of Brendan Smith?)
> --
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From sjtruog at yahoo.com  Mon Oct 24 20:11:19 2005
From: sjtruog at yahoo.com (SjT (Stephen J. Truog))
Date: Mon Oct 24 20:12:27 2005
Subject: [NU Sports] Again, the "B" in BCS stands for ...
Message-ID: <20051025011119.18370.qmail@web52913.mail.yahoo.com>

... Big XII.

It used to stand for the Bowden Computer System after
it favored 1-loss FSU year after year over other
1-loss teams, despite the weak ACC (pre-Big East
raid).

But in the last few years, it seems to have stood for
Big XII. 

* In 2001, it placed Nebraska in the title game ...
even though the Huskers didn't even play in their own
conference's title game and were destroyed by Colorado
in their season finale. UNL lost to Miami in the Rose
Bowl. The main victim? Pac 10 champ Oregon.

* In 2003, it placed Oklahoma in the title game ...
even though the Sooners lost their conference title
game to KSU in humbling fashion. The Sooners lost to
LSU. The main victim? Pac 10 champ USC.

* In 2004, it placed Oklahoma in the title game over
equally unbeaten (and from a much stronger league)
Auburn and the Sooners were squashed in the title
game. But it also bumped Texas up a spot in the final
poll to earn the automatic at-large berth. The main
victim? Pac 10 runner-up Cal.

And now the BCS has Texas as the #1 team in the nation
over USC. The same USC who hasn't lost in a couple
years, is a two-time defending champion and has
perhaps the best offense in college football in a
decade. 

Texas' most impressive wins? At Ohio State is big, but
on par with the USC win at Notre Dame. And I guess
Oregon is on par with Texas Tech (though playing at
Autzen Stadium is different than playing at home vs.
the overrated Red Raiders). And I don't think there's
any question the Pac 10 is a better league this year
than the Big XII. So it is close, but a win over TTech
flips the 1/2 spot? Please!

The good news? At least this time it's 1/2 flopping
and it shouldn't affect the national title game, so
we'll settle this on the field.

Still, I know I'm new to this Pac 10 territory thing
in Arizona, but I'm starting to see this "West Coast
Bias" thing ... and Pac 10 fans really gotta be ticked
over the Big XII bias in the BCS that's hurt them the
past few years.

On the plus side, the BCS still ranks ND #15 (we gotta
HOPE the Vols can salvage their season and win in
South Bend in 2 weeks to keep ND out of the BCS) and
NU is up to #21 (with Michigan #25)!

I will give the B(C)S one thing - it does create
controversey over its befuddling logic!

GO CATS!!!
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From sjtruog at yahoo.com  Mon Oct 24 20:19:19 2005
From: sjtruog at yahoo.com (SjT (Stephen J. Truog))
Date: Mon Oct 24 20:20:30 2005
Subject: [NU Sports] 6-2 wins it......
In-Reply-To: <20051024190227.21275.qmail@web30301.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <20051025011919.9361.qmail@web52904.mail.yahoo.com>

> Fellow Wildcat Faithful,
> 
> I am predicting that there will be a 4-way split of
> the Big Ten title this

I'd love to see your scenario come true -- but with
four teams having one loss, it's real tough to see all
four dropping another game the rest of the way.

Right now, PSU and OSU are in the best positions to
run the table, because they get the other two teams --
UW and NU -- in Happy Valley and the Shoe. However,
PSU is in the drivers' seat with tiebreakers and OSU
needs the most help.

Unfortunately, OSU and UW don't face each other this
year (Barry usually does well vs. the Bucks) to give
one another loss -- but the Badgers beat the Bucks in
the tiebreak because of the OSU loss to Texas (OSU's
overall mark would be 1 more loss than UW). So in
terms of tiebreakers ...

PSU: Beat NU, beat OSU ... still to play UW (at home)
OSU: Lost to PSU, loses to UW ... still to play NU (at
home)
UW: Beats OSU, lost to NU ... still to play @ PSU
NU: Beats UW, lost to PSU ... still to play @ OSU

If the home teams win the head-to-head matchups, I
guess MSU and Michigan could muck things up that final
weekend (though JoePa has two weeks to prep for MSU
and Tressel has Carr's number lately), but it'll be
tough.

If the away teams win the head-to-heads, it's great
for us since we beat UW head-to-head.:)

So in terms of controlling destiny ...

PSU - needs to win out
NU - needs to win out and a PSU loss
UW - needs to win out and an NU loss
OSU - needs to win out and have a PSU and UW loss

But anything's possible in the Big Ten this year, I
guess.:) One step at a time - BEAT MICHIGAN!!!

WEAR PURPLE!!!
MAKE NOISE!!!

GO CATS!!!
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From thehaze at earthlink.net  Mon Oct 24 20:19:54 2005
From: thehaze at earthlink.net (Jim Bendat)
Date: Mon Oct 24 20:23:45 2005
Subject: [NU Sports] Michigan
References: <110.552c5b0f.308ec393@aol.com>
Message-ID: <435D883A.6030603@earthlink.net>

Just caught part of Lloyd Carr's show on cable.  In previewing 
Northwestern, he said all the right things.  Stuff like "their offense 
is unbelievable.  We can't stop them.  Nobody can stop them."  He went 
on to say that UM's goal is to maintain ball control, trying to keep 
NU's offense off the field.  He said he doesn't want to get into a 
shootout with NU (a la 54-51 in 2000), but then he smiled and said, "But 
sometimes those things happen."  -- Jim B.


From thehaze at earthlink.net  Mon Oct 24 20:25:46 2005
From: thehaze at earthlink.net (Jim Bendat)
Date: Mon Oct 24 20:25:51 2005
Subject: [NU Sports] Again, the "B" in BCS stands for ...
References: <20051025011119.18370.qmail@web52913.mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <435D899A.1030507@earthlink.net>

Well stated, Stephen.  The Pac-10 does get screwed by the national media 
on a regular basis.  But you know what, it's sort of nice that the Big 
Ten isn't involved in all that BCS junk this season.  We can just enjoy 
our team play in a highly entertaining and competitive Big Ten title 
chase.  -- Jim B.

SjT (Stephen J. Truog) wrote:

>... Big XII.
>
>It used to stand for the Bowden Computer System after
>it favored 1-loss FSU year after year over other
>1-loss teams, despite the weak ACC (pre-Big East
>raid).
>
>But in the last few years, it seems to have stood for
>Big XII. 
>
>* In 2001, it placed Nebraska in the title game ...
>even though the Huskers didn't even play in their own
>conference's title game and were destroyed by Colorado
>in their season finale. UNL lost to Miami in the Rose
>Bowl. The main victim? Pac 10 champ Oregon.
>
>* In 2003, it placed Oklahoma in the title game ...
>even though the Sooners lost their conference title
>game to KSU in humbling fashion. The Sooners lost to
>LSU. The main victim? Pac 10 champ USC.
>
>* In 2004, it placed Oklahoma in the title game over
>equally unbeaten (and from a much stronger league)
>Auburn and the Sooners were squashed in the title
>game. But it also bumped Texas up a spot in the final
>poll to earn the automatic at-large berth. The main
>victim? Pac 10 runner-up Cal.
>
>And now the BCS has Texas as the #1 team in the nation
>over USC. The same USC who hasn't lost in a couple
>years, is a two-time defending champion and has
>perhaps the best offense in college football in a
>decade. 
>
>Texas' most impressive wins? At Ohio State is big, but
>on par with the USC win at Notre Dame. And I guess
>Oregon is on par with Texas Tech (though playing at
>Autzen Stadium is different than playing at home vs.
>the overrated Red Raiders). And I don't think there's
>any question the Pac 10 is a better league this year
>than the Big XII. So it is close, but a win over TTech
>flips the 1/2 spot? Please!
>
>The good news? At least this time it's 1/2 flopping
>and it shouldn't affect the national title game, so
>we'll settle this on the field.
>
>Still, I know I'm new to this Pac 10 territory thing
>in Arizona, but I'm starting to see this "West Coast
>Bias" thing ... and Pac 10 fans really gotta be ticked
>over the Big XII bias in the BCS that's hurt them the
>past few years.
>
>On the plus side, the BCS still ranks ND #15 (we gotta
>HOPE the Vols can salvage their season and win in
>South Bend in 2 weeks to keep ND out of the BCS) and
>NU is up to #21 (with Michigan #25)!
>
>I will give the B(C)S one thing - it does create
>controversey over its befuddling logic!
>
>GO CATS!!!
>-SjT
>
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>sjtruog@yahoo.com
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From Alan.Abrahamson at latimes.com  Mon Oct 24 21:05:25 2005
From: Alan.Abrahamson at latimes.com (Abrahamson, Alan)
Date: Mon Oct 24 21:13:07 2005
Subject: [NU Sports] beating a dead horse
Message-ID: <6A0419188B49A54C960893D230C26807084AE5FD@goose.latimes.com>

 Hey, Lloyd Carr has it right! Our offense is indeed incredible. 
 The current NCAA stats show us at fourth in the country in team offense -- behind only USC, Texas Tech and Michigan State. 
 It's our defense that it is also incredible. As in, 'Uh-oh, it is incredible that Northwestern could be 5-2 with that defense.' We are now ranked dead last in the country -- 117th out of 117, giving up a magnanimous 504.43 yards per game. We give up a generous 6.55 yards per play.
 At the risk of beating the life out of the horse I've been whipping all season, I now bring out the whip: 
 This defense is painful to watch. If my grandfather was still alive, he would watch, shake his head and mutter, 'Oy vey.' 
 But this offense is absolutely unstoppable. Basanez has ONE interception in seven games and that was a chickshirt pick -- as I recall the play from my vantage point in the south end zone, the NU receiver fell down and the PSU d-back got himself an easy ball to end the game.
 I happily concede that the defense is playing with more aggressiveness. I watched the game this last weekend in Vegas, surrounded by a bunch of Michigan honks who were furiously rooting on the maize and blue over the Hawkeyes. After Michigan won, I said to them, bring it on, Wolverines. They looked at me in amazement: 'You talking to me?' Yep. Bring it on, blue. 
 Let's say for the sake of argument that we beat Michigan (45th in team defense, 48th in offense). Then the statistical rubber really meets the road. Because Ohio State is ranked third in the country in defense. 
 How's this for a couple thoughts?
 The defense has to keep coming up with big plays. Or we will -- despite our phenomenal offense -- lose.  
 But if the big plays keep coming, we will win out. We will thereupon find ourselves in January in -- good lord, I can barely make my fingers type the sentence because it's so unthinkable -- the Fiesta or Orange bowls. I'm keeping my fingers crossed that Penn State will lose to Wisconsin or Michigan State.
 Of course, it would be just our luck to go to the Sugar Bowl the year it's in Baton Rouge or Bentonville, Ark., or wherever. 
 But that would be a nice problem to have, yes?
 Yours in purple, Alan
  

-----Original Message-----
From: nwu-sports-bounces@tssi.com [mailto:nwu-sports-bounces@tssi.com]On
Behalf Of Jim Bendat
Sent: Monday, October 24, 2005 6:20 PM
To: nwu-sports@romaine.tssi.com
Subject: Re: [NU Sports] Michigan


Just caught part of Lloyd Carr's show on cable.  In previewing 
Northwestern, he said all the right things.  Stuff like "their offense 
is unbelievable.  We can't stop them.  Nobody can stop them."  He went 
on to say that UM's goal is to maintain ball control, trying to keep 
NU's offense off the field.  He said he doesn't want to get into a 
shootout with NU (a la 54-51 in 2000), but then he smiled and said, "But 
sometimes those things happen."  -- Jim B.


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From michael.vance at att.net  Mon Oct 24 21:22:52 2005
From: michael.vance at att.net (Michael Vance)
Date: Mon Oct 24 21:39:13 2005
Subject: [NU Sports] Basanez/NU feature in today's NY Times
In-Reply-To: <20051024191737.21274.qmail@web60715.mail.yahoo.com>
References: <031d01c5d8ae$710b4400$97492745@hilgraeve.com>
Message-ID: <5.2.0.9.0.20051024211816.03d8d698@ipostoffice.worldnet.att.net>

And this one from Friday's Times Travel section that mentions our own 
friendly confines:

http://travel2.nytimes.com/2005/10/21/travel/21stadium.html?fta=y (Requires 
free registration)

An abridged, syndicated version appeared in the Indianapolis Star, and can 
probably be found in other papers as well:
http://www.indystar.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20051022/LIVING/510220350&SearchID=73224376879840

-Michael

At 10/24/2005 02:17 PM, Ben Adler wrote:
>The story
>http://www.nytimes.com/2005/10/24/sports/ncaafootball/24colleges.html
>includes this quote:
>
>"I don't want to take anything away from anyone," the Penn State defensive 
>coordinator, Tom Bradley, said by phone, "but if [Basanez is] not the best 
>quarterback in the country, wow, I don't know who is."

From brian.h.winkler at accenture.com  Mon Oct 24 23:21:39 2005
From: brian.h.winkler at accenture.com (brian.h.winkler@accenture.com)
Date: Mon Oct 24 23:27:52 2005
Subject: [NU Sports] Two Tickets Available for the Michigan 
Message-ID: <CBE0C91AC1DE7245B4A9444B2F1A7058CCB8DE@AMRXM1112.dir.svc.accenture.com>

 
I had some friends cancel last minute and have two extra tickets to the
NU-Michigan game.  Nice seats - sec 128, row 60 (NU Side).  $40 a piece.

If you are interested, please send me an email quickly.

Go Cats,
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From nolan at romaine.tssi.com  Mon Oct 24 23:32:53 2005
From: nolan at romaine.tssi.com (Mike Nolan)
Date: Mon Oct 24 23:32:55 2005
Subject: [NU Sports] beating a dead horse (fwd)
Message-ID: <200510250432.j9P4Wr86005193@romaine.tssi.com>

>  Of course, it would be just our luck to go to the Sugar Bowl the year it's in Baton Rouge or Bentonville, Ark., or wherever. 

The Sugar Bowl will be in Atlanta this year.
--
Mike Nolan

From sjtruog at yahoo.com  Mon Oct 24 23:41:33 2005
From: sjtruog at yahoo.com (SjT (Stephen J. Truog))
Date: Mon Oct 24 23:42:42 2005
Subject: [NU Sports] beating a dead horse
In-Reply-To: <6A0419188B49A54C960893D230C26807084AE5FD@goose.latimes.com>
Message-ID: <20051025044133.76880.qmail@web52905.mail.yahoo.com>

>  It's our defense that it is also incredible. As in,
> 'Uh-oh, it is incredible that Northwestern could be
> 5-2 with that defense.' We are now ranked dead last
> in the country -- 117th out of 117, giving up a
> magnanimous 504.43 yards per game. We give up a
> generous 6.55 yards per play.

OK, I will again beat the dead horse in support of
this lost cause ... i.e. our defense.:) 

Yes, the stats are woeful ... but I remember being a
little kid as my dad, a high school football coach,
ran through all his team's stats for the season.
"Dad,' I said, "isn't the only stat that really counts
the score?"

>  This defense is painful to watch. If my grandfather
> was still alive, he would watch, shake his head and
> mutter, 'Oy vey.' 

Our D suffered some great losses before the season
began -- Howard, Heinz, Backes, etc. -- and has been
hit again during the season. With the exception of
LBs, we are quite young on D.

I'm not saying that as an excuse - just as a fact. All
you can really ask for with a young D is hustle, heart
and improvement as the season goes on. I've seen all
three from the student athletes in purple the last
month. So I have no problem defending the D here.

And if you want stats, how many turnovers has the D
caused this year?

The ASU game was a total loss by O, D and everyone
else in purple. And I maintain that the PSU loss was
also a team loss and not one to pin on the D. Yes, the
4th and 15 hurt ... but it should have never come down
to that. The defense forced turnover after turnover in
the first half, only to watch the offense walk away
with 3. We blew that game long before the last drive
by the Nits.

The stats are dreadful - but skewed by the style of
offense we play. And yeah, I may watch 3rd downs
peeking through my hands. But these guys are playing a
more aggressive style and I see effort and
improvement.

> blue over the Hawkeyes. After Michigan won, I said
> to them, bring it on, Wolverines. They looked at me
> in amazement: 'You talking to me?' Yep. Bring it on,

I'd be careful about kicking a Wolverine when down:)
... Michigan may be the most balanced and explosive
offensive team we'll face this year and they have a
lot of talent on D as well. They blew some games
early, but this is a team that was in the top 5 when
the season began.

And Iowa will be entering off a week's rest to regroup
... and OSU is, well, OSU and in the Shoe and their
WRs are even faster than PSUs. So it's a brutal
three-game stretch ahead. One game at a time!

>  The defense has to keep coming up with big plays.
> Or we will -- despite our phenomenal offense --
> lose.  

I'll agree with that -- the turnovers have saved us a
couple games because a defensive stop is tough to come
by. Also, I'll add that Baz and the O can't let up --
which it seems Baz himself realizes, as the ESPN2 crew
had him rallying the team in the second half on the
sidelines saying that they can't stop scoring now just
because they're ahead.

Let's help 'em out Saturday night - I expect to see
nothing but a Purple Haze over Evanston with an
electric atmosphere that I won't even be able to hear
myself think in while the game is on. And if you even
THINK of sitting on third down, well, hang your head
in shame!:)

WEAR PURPLE!!!
MAKE NOISE!!!

GO CATS!!!
-SjT

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From Hakirsch at aol.com  Mon Oct 24 23:50:14 2005
From: Hakirsch at aol.com (Hakirsch@aol.com)
Date: Mon Oct 24 23:51:23 2005
Subject: [NU Sports] beating a dead horse
Message-ID: <192.4b44cc92.308f1386@aol.com>

In a message dated 10/24/2005 9:43:36 PM Pacific Daylight Time, 
sjtruog@yahoo.com writes:

> It's our defense that it is also incredible. As in,
> >'Uh-oh, it is incredible that Northwestern could be
> >5-2 with that defense.' We are now ranked dead last
> >in the country -- 117th out of 117, giving up a
> >magnanimous 504.43 yards per game. We give up a
> >generous 6.55 yards per play.
> 

Maybe it was just a bad day for Stanton but he came in came in with a 70% + 
completion rate--and was only 50% vs NU's D with 3 picks--so maybe we are 
really improving .
From Alan.Abrahamson at latimes.com  Mon Oct 24 23:44:26 2005
From: Alan.Abrahamson at latimes.com (Abrahamson, Alan)
Date: Mon Oct 24 23:52:27 2005
Subject: [NU Sports] beating a dead horse (fwd)
Message-ID: <6A0419188B49A54C960893D230C26807084AE60A@goose.latimes.com>

Like I said ... :>




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Sent: Mon Oct 24 21:32:53 2005
Subject: [NU Sports] beating a dead horse (fwd)

>  Of course, it would be just our luck to go to the Sugar Bowl the year it's in Baton Rouge or Bentonville, Ark., or wherever. 

The Sugar Bowl will be in Atlanta this year.
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From sjtruog at yahoo.com  Tue Oct 25 00:13:41 2005
From: sjtruog at yahoo.com (SjT (Stephen J. Truog))
Date: Tue Oct 25 00:21:49 2005
Subject: [NU Sports] PIGSKIN PICKS - Week 9
Message-ID: <20051025051341.89511.qmail@web52903.mail.yahoo.com>

That's right! 9 ... 9 ... 9 ... 9 ... 9 ... 9
Will lucky #9 be lucky for the Cats on the night of
the biggest home game in years? Let's hope so!

Also a big ole' game down in Jacksonville for SEC
braggin' rights and a dandy in the ACC on Thursday
night (so yes, picks are due early again!). Standings
will be out next, so let's get down to business ...

PIGSKIN PICKS - WEEK 9
######################
Name: 

Big Ten
-------
GAME  1: Indiana @ Michigan St.     WINNER: 
GAME  2: Ohio State @ Minnesota     WINNER: 
GAME  3: Purdue @ Penn State        WINNER: 
GAME  4: Wisconsin @ Illinois       WINNER: 

National
--------
GAME  5: Boston Coll. @ Va. Tech    WINNER: 
GAME  6: Clemson @ Georgia Tech     WINNER: 
GAME  7: Florida vs. Georgia *      WINNER: 
GAME  8: Oklahoma @ Nebraska        WINNER: 
GAME  9: S. Carolina @ Tennessee    WINNER: 
GAME 10: UCLA @ Stanford            WINNER: 

MY PICKS
========
* MSU 27, Indiana 20 - Sparty still has enough to
squeak by the improved Hoosiers at home? Right?
* OHIO ST. 17, Minnesota 7 - The Buckeye D keeps
Mulroney in check and dominates the Gophs.
* PENN STATE 31, Purdue 13 - PSU has the better O,
better D and Happy Valley on its side.
* WISCONSIN 45, Illinois 20 - Bucky runs left, right
and all over that hapless Illini defense.
* VA TECH 24, Boston College 16 - Could be the Hokies
toughest test of the year, but it's still in
Blacksburg
* GA TECH 28, Clemson 27 - The Tigers make it close,
but the rested Jackets win at home
* FLORIDA 20, Georgia 10 - Even with a healthy
Shockley, the Gator D has the chops to beat UGa again
* NEBRASKA 30, Oklahoma 21 - Just like the old days?
Not quite, but the Huskers bounce back at home.
* TENNESSEE 21, South Carolina 7 - The Vols are in
disarray, but still have the athletes to win at home
* UCLA 49, Stanford 17 - The Cardinal have been a big
surprise lately, but can't stay with the mighty
Bruins.

And off the board ...

* NORTHWESTERN 49, Michigan 45 - Why not? The Cats are
on a roll and confident they can beat the mighty Maize
and Blue ... both teams like to take it down to the
wire and the team in purple escapes with a win again.

Picks in by THURSDAY NIGHT'S GAME!

WEAR PURPLE!!!
MAKE NOISE!!!

GO CATS!!!
-SjT

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From rstetson at capps-assoc.com  Tue Oct 25 00:30:35 2005
From: rstetson at capps-assoc.com (Roy S. Lamberton)
Date: Tue Oct 25 00:30:53 2005
Subject: [NU Sports] Hart's Status? (fwd)
In-Reply-To: <fcb3ee270510241651o4f8014bat91b0c4422eb42c27@mail.gmail.com>
References: <200510242246.j9OMkDsC001322@romaine.tssi.com>
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I happen to be in Evanston tonite for the Fast break Tip off - they 
raised 8K on an auction to help the roundball team, however, I happened 
to see Smitty walking around wearing a knee brace.

He mentioned to the folks I was with that it was a lot better, but given 
the size of the brace, etc, I doubt he'll be on the field Saturday.

FWIW - David had a similar hit his senior year, he recovered enuff in a 
week to start the next week, but I think Smith's injury is a lot worse 
than David's.

Go Cats

rsl

Jonathan Hodges wrote:

>Brendan Smith had an MRI Saturday night after returning, according to
>Coach Walker, who also admitted that our defensive secondary is
>becoming rather thin in terms of depth.  I was at the stadium on
>Saturday when the team returned along with some current students (all
>in NUMB), as mentioned in this New York Times article:
>
>http://www.nytimes.com/2005/10/24/sports/ncaafootball/24colleges.html
>
>The hit on Smith did not look dirty, Stanton was just tackling at the
>knees and happened to hit him in the wrong spot.  In any case, I'm
>sure Smith's status will be released later this week.
>
>Jonathan
>
>On 10/24/05, Mike Nolan <nolan@romaine.tssi.com> wrote:
>  
>
>>>FWIW - we'll put up anything about UM Players being hurt on Friday in
>>>the Intel Report.
>>>      
>>>
>>Maybe I missed it, but any injury reports on our guys?  (And am I the only
>>one who thought that MSU took a bit of a cheap shot on that post-interception
>>tackle of Brendan Smith?)
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From rstetson at capps-assoc.com  Tue Oct 25 00:33:27 2005
From: rstetson at capps-assoc.com (Roy S. Lamberton)
Date: Tue Oct 25 00:33:42 2005
Subject: [NU Sports] beating a dead horse
In-Reply-To: <6A0419188B49A54C960893D230C26807084AE5FD@goose.latimes.com>
References: <6A0419188B49A54C960893D230C26807084AE5FD@goose.latimes.com>
Message-ID: <435DC3A7.4050201@capps-assoc.com>

We may be dead last in yardage, but not in points allowed.

We let MSU run up and down the field but humiliated them on the 
scoreboard. Purdue ran up a lot of yardage, but we kept them off the board.

As I said somewhere last week, our D is not as bad as some may think, 
their O is not as great as some may think.

The truth is still in the middle somewhere.

Go Cats

rsl

Abrahamson, Alan wrote:

> Hey, Lloyd Carr has it right! Our offense is indeed incredible. 
> The current NCAA stats show us at fourth in the country in team offense -- behind only USC, Texas Tech and Michigan State. 
> It's our defense that it is also incredible. As in, 'Uh-oh, it is incredible that Northwestern could be 5-2 with that defense.' We are now ranked dead last in the country -- 117th out of 117, giving up a magnanimous 504.43 yards per game. We give up a generous 6.55 yards per play.
> At the risk of beating the life out of the horse I've been whipping all season, I now bring out the whip: 
> This defense is painful to watch. If my grandfather was still alive, he would watch, shake his head and mutter, 'Oy vey.' 
> But this offense is absolutely unstoppable. Basanez has ONE interception in seven games and that was a chickshirt pick -- as I recall the play from my vantage point in the south end zone, the NU receiver fell down and the PSU d-back got himself an easy ball to end the game.
> I happily concede that the defense is playing with more aggressiveness. I watched the game this last weekend in Vegas, surrounded by a bunch of Michigan honks who were furiously rooting on the maize and blue over the Hawkeyes. After Michigan won, I said to them, bring it on, Wolverines. They looked at me in amazement: 'You talking to me?' Yep. Bring it on, blue. 
> Let's say for the sake of argument that we beat Michigan (45th in team defense, 48th in offense). Then the statistical rubber really meets the road. Because Ohio State is ranked third in the country in defense. 
> How's this for a couple thoughts?
> The defense has to keep coming up with big plays. Or we will -- despite our phenomenal offense -- lose.  
> But if the big plays keep coming, we will win out. We will thereupon find ourselves in January in -- good lord, I can barely make my fingers type the sentence because it's so unthinkable -- the Fiesta or Orange bowls. I'm keeping my fingers crossed that Penn State will lose to Wisconsin or Michigan State.
> Of course, it would be just our luck to go to the Sugar Bowl the year it's in Baton Rouge or Bentonville, Ark., or wherever. 
> But that would be a nice problem to have, yes?
> Yours in purple, Alan
>  
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: nwu-sports-bounces@tssi.com [mailto:nwu-sports-bounces@tssi.com]On
>Behalf Of Jim Bendat
>Sent: Monday, October 24, 2005 6:20 PM
>To: nwu-sports@romaine.tssi.com
>Subject: Re: [NU Sports] Michigan
>
>
>Just caught part of Lloyd Carr's show on cable.  In previewing 
>Northwestern, he said all the right things.  Stuff like "their offense 
>is unbelievable.  We can't stop them.  Nobody can stop them."  He went 
>on to say that UM's goal is to maintain ball control, trying to keep 
>NU's offense off the field.  He said he doesn't want to get into a 
>shootout with NU (a la 54-51 in 2000), but then he smiled and said, "But 
>sometimes those things happen."  -- Jim B.
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From DPENDERG at aol.com  Tue Oct 25 07:12:58 2005
From: DPENDERG at aol.com (DPENDERG@aol.com)
Date: Tue Oct 25 07:16:55 2005
Subject: [NU Sports] beating a dead horse
Message-ID: <191.4aa6d961.308f7b4a@aol.com>

I hate to dampen this giddy exuberance about the Cat offense, our high  
national stat ranking, Baz's superlatives, etc.  I think,  however, we face the 
best defense on Saturday that we have encountered  all season.  A big, strong, 
quick DL especially will be a challenge.   I certainly want to think that our 
offense is just a well-oiled, relentless  machine, but I'm waiting to see how we 
will handle the UM defense. I expect they  will try to get a lot of pressure 
on Baz.  His success in recent games has  been that he's been getting great 
protection and the time to find his  receivers.  Let's remember the take on Baz 
once was that he did not handle  pressure well and made bad throws when 
rushed.  We haven't seen that  lately, of course, but UM will be a major test for 
Baz and the entire  offense.
From jleonard518 at yahoo.com  Tue Oct 25 14:05:41 2005
From: jleonard518 at yahoo.com (Jim Leonard)
Date: Tue Oct 25 14:06:49 2005
Subject: [NU Sports] gambling and college athletes
In-Reply-To: <6A0419188B49A54C960893D230C26807084AE60A@goose.latimes.com>
Message-ID: <20051025190542.44832.qmail@web30301.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

This is just for the sake of discussion on an otherwise slow day.

I have recently worked with a guy who played at a weak Division 1A school. It
is not in the same conference, nor even the same time zone, as NU - so this is
not in any way related to the Cats (I hope). 

Anyhow, he said that many players on his team regularly bet on college
football. One of the players essentially acted as the team bookie and placed
the bets online. He did say that they never bet on their own games (and I
believe him) and that the bets were small ($5-$10 a wager).

Maybe this shouldn't surprise me, but it does. Is the NCAA failing this badly
in it's attempts to keep the student-athletes away from gambling? I'd like to
hear what the rest of you think. 

Regards,
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From spiritu at northwestern.edu  Tue Oct 25 14:12:31 2005
From: spiritu at northwestern.edu (Jonathan Michael Hawkins)
Date: Tue Oct 25 14:13:42 2005
Subject: [NU Sports] gambling and college athletes
In-Reply-To: <20051025190542.44832.qmail@web30301.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
References: <20051025190542.44832.qmail@web30301.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.64.0510251409370.9743@localhost>

> Maybe this shouldn't surprise me, but it does. Is the NCAA failing this 
> badly in it's attempts to keep the student-athletes away from gambling? 
> I'd like to hear what the rest of you think.

In the old days, transactions of this nature required some sort of human 
contact.  These days, what's to stop some guy from logging onto one of the 
many, many online wagering sites and putting money down on a game? 
Answer: nothing.  It's not really traceable, either.  Any attempts to 
prevent online gambling by NCAA student athletes is going to have to rest 
on convincing the athletes not to do it.  Now that the human contact is 
out of the gambling equation, there's no one to spill the beans.

Jonathan

From hakirsch at aol.com  Tue Oct 25 14:16:43 2005
From: hakirsch at aol.com (hakirsch@aol.com)
Date: Tue Oct 25 14:17:51 2005
Subject: [NU Sports] gambling and college athletes
In-Reply-To: <20051025190542.44832.qmail@web30301.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <8C7A7AFC4C54F54-B3C-62FA@MBLK-M10.sysops.aol.com>

Obviously they shouldn't--if it's guys betting among themselves for $5 or $10 on a game unrelated to theirs, i am opposed, but not outraged.
 
The note said they actually did it on-line--I have been told that on-line book sites require higher minimums than $5-or $10 --so I question whether they are really doing that.  If anyone is talking to a  live bookie, then I have real concerns, since they became easy prey for information and, of course worse, influence. 
 
The betting scandal at NU certainly gave a black -eye to one of the cleanest programs in the country--and I never want to see even a hint of that on us again
 
Harry
 
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Sent: Tue, 25 Oct 2005 12:05:41 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [NU Sports] gambling and college athletes


This is just for the sake of discussion on an otherwise slow day.

I have recently worked with a guy who played at a weak Division 1A school. It
is not in the same conference, nor even the same time zone, as NU - so this is
not in any way related to the Cats (I hope). 

Anyhow, he said that many players on his team regularly bet on college
football. One of the players essentially acted as the team bookie and placed
the bets online. He did say that they never bet on their own games (and I
believe him) and that the bets were small ($5-$10 a wager).

Maybe this shouldn't surprise me, but it does. Is the NCAA failing this badly
in it's attempts to keep the student-athletes away from gambling? I'd like to
hear what the rest of you think. 

Regards,
Jim


        
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From jleonard518 at yahoo.com  Tue Oct 25 14:42:23 2005
From: jleonard518 at yahoo.com (Jim Leonard)
Date: Tue Oct 25 14:50:11 2005
Subject: [NU Sports] gambling and college athletes
In-Reply-To: <8C7A7AFC4C54F54-B3C-62FA@MBLK-M10.sysops.aol.com>
Message-ID: <20051025194223.41364.qmail@web30306.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

Harry,

Thanks for the insight. I am completely ignorant of how on-line betting works,
so I didn't know about the minimums. The guy I know could have misled me on
that point, or it could have been 5-10 guys each throwing in $5-$10 to clear a
$50 minimum bet. I don't know. 

What scares me is if it was like this at one school, then (other then the three
service academies) it can easily happen at the other 114. It could still happen
at the service academies, but it would be harder to conceal and likely an honor
code violation. 

I guess NCAA coaches are really up the creek here. They will no doubt be held
accounatble (or at least have to live with the resulting black eye), but they
are powerless to stop on-line wagering. Scary.

Jim


--- hakirsch@aol.com wrote:

> Obviously they shouldn't--if it's guys betting among themselves for $5 or $10
> on a game unrelated to theirs, i am opposed, but not outraged.
>  
> The note said they actually did it on-line--I have been told that on-line
> book sites require higher minimums than $5-or $10 --so I question whether
> they are really doing that.  If anyone is talking to a  live bookie, then I
> have real concerns, since they became easy prey for information and, of
> course worse, influence. 
>  
> The betting scandal at NU certainly gave a black -eye to one of the cleanest
> programs in the country--and I never want to see even a hint of that on us
> again
>  
> Harry
>  
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Jim Leonard <jleonard518@yahoo.com>
> To: nwu-sports@romaine.tssi.com
> Sent: Tue, 25 Oct 2005 12:05:41 -0700 (PDT)
> Subject: [NU Sports] gambling and college athletes
> 
> 
> This is just for the sake of discussion on an otherwise slow day.
> 
> I have recently worked with a guy who played at a weak Division 1A school. It
> is not in the same conference, nor even the same time zone, as NU - so this
> is
> not in any way related to the Cats (I hope). 
> 
> Anyhow, he said that many players on his team regularly bet on college
> football. One of the players essentially acted as the team bookie and placed
> the bets online. He did say that they never bet on their own games (and I
> believe him) and that the bets were small ($5-$10 a wager).
> 
> Maybe this shouldn't surprise me, but it does. Is the NCAA failing this badly
> in it's attempts to keep the student-athletes away from gambling? I'd like to
> hear what the rest of you think. 
> 
> Regards,
> Jim
> 
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From nolan at romaine.tssi.com  Tue Oct 25 14:52:39 2005
From: nolan at romaine.tssi.com (Mike Nolan)
Date: Tue Oct 25 14:52:40 2005
Subject: [NU Sports] gambling and college athletes (fwd)
Message-ID: <200510251952.j9PJqdXt013549@romaine.tssi.com>

> In the old days, transactions of this nature required some sort of human 
> contact.  These days, what's to stop some guy from logging onto one of the 
> many, many online wagering sites and putting money down on a game? 
> Answer: nothing.  It's not really traceable, either.  Any attempts to 
> prevent online gambling by NCAA student athletes is going to have to rest 
> on convincing the athletes not to do it.  Now that the human contact is 
> out of the gambling equation, there's no one to spill the beans.

I have a friend who plays poker online, based on what he's told me about
the way things work I think any athlete who gambles online leaves a trail 
back to himself, if only in the form of credit card informaiton.

An unscrupulous gambling site adminstrator (and that's almost redundant) may
be able to figure out if any scholarship athletes are using his site, thus
this is really no more secure or confidential than using a bookie.  

While I have very little confidence that the NCAA can control or monitor
online gambling, I predict that sooner or later some athlete will get caught 
doing this and the NCAA will stomp on that person, and probably his school.
--
Mike Nolan

From jeffb at hilgraeve.com  Tue Oct 25 15:19:08 2005
From: jeffb at hilgraeve.com (Jeff Beamsley)
Date: Tue Oct 25 15:23:57 2005
Subject: [NU Sports] gambling and college athletes (fwd)
In-Reply-To: <200510251952.j9PJqdXt013549@romaine.tssi.com>
Message-ID: <078401c5d9a1$5ad7eeb0$97492745@hilgraeve.com>

Mike wrote <snip>

While I have very little confidence that the NCAA can control or monitor
online gambling, I predict that sooner or later some athlete will get caught
doing this and the NCAA will stomp on that person, and probably his school.

===========

Any individual transaction like anything else on the Internet is traceable,
just like any individual grain of sand is traceable if you want to work hard
enough.  The shear volume of transactions assures practical anonymity.  That
said, I agree with Mike.  This is just one of a number of scandals brewing
out there in the Internet soup.

In a flat world, we have perfect frictionless markets.  Consumers are able
to gain easy access from multiple vendors to whatever it is that they want
to consume.  The good news is that you can find anything you want on-line.
The bad news for those concerned about the effects of exploitation and
addiction is that you can find anything you want on-line.

Jeff

From nolan at romaine.tssi.com  Tue Oct 25 15:30:39 2005
From: nolan at romaine.tssi.com (Mike Nolan)
Date: Tue Oct 25 15:30:42 2005
Subject: [NU Sports] gambling and college athletes (fwd)
In-Reply-To: <200510252013.j9PKD4bl018840@gw.tssi.com> from "Peter C. Warner"
	at Oct 25, 2005 01:11:52 PM
Message-ID: <200510252030.j9PKUd4Z014064@romaine.tssi.com>

> The US gov't got credit card companies to agree (or by law, I'm not sure
> which) a couple of years ago to refuse to deal with the off-shore gambling
> companies.  In order to gamble, one needs to make wire transfers into an
> account with the gambling company.  That account is then made to make wagers
> and receive winnings.  I assume there is some way to get the money out if
> one wins, but I don't know how it works.

I just checked several online gambling sites, they're all still showing 
VISA, Mastercard and American Express icons or indicating that they accept
those credit cards to fund your account.

Even with a wire transfer there's still a paper trail.
--
Mike Nolan

From jonathanwhodges at gmail.com  Tue Oct 25 16:01:51 2005
From: jonathanwhodges at gmail.com (Jonathan Hodges)
Date: Tue Oct 25 16:02:56 2005
Subject: [NU Sports] gambling and college athletes (fwd)
In-Reply-To: <200510252030.j9PKUd4Z014064@romaine.tssi.com>
References: <200510252013.j9PKD4bl018840@gw.tssi.com>
	<200510252030.j9PKUd4Z014064@romaine.tssi.com>
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What is interesting is that these gambling sites are almost all run
out of the country (i.e. Cayman Islands, etc.) where they are not
subject to any specific country's laws.  This makes tracking down the
gamblers and the bookies extremely difficult, if not impossible, to
find, particularly by the NCAA.  This is probably a reason why this
issue has not come up recently although the amount of betting on
college sports has increased by vast amounts over the past decade or
so.  Many college students have gone into gambling, leading to many
gambling addiction problems and lots of debt, especially due to the
popularity resurgance of poker recently.  No doubt that many college
athletes are in the same boat and have fallen into betting on sports
as well.  I don't think there is much that the coaches can do besides
tell them not to do it and force them to acknowledge the policy (like
alcohol policies that prohibit drinking in season, which are broken by
virtually everyone and also virtually non enforceable).  I would say
it is a greater issue to the college population at large than
specifically athletes since many college students fall into massive
gambling debt these days.  Unfortunately, the NCAA will just tell the
institutions to stop it somehow and then will jump on the chance to
punish the first violation that they find instead of designing a
program or steps to help the problem.

Jonathan

On 10/25/05, Mike Nolan <nolan@romaine.tssi.com> wrote:
> > The US gov't got credit card companies to agree (or by law, I'm not sure
> > which) a couple of years ago to refuse to deal with the off-shore gambling
> > companies.  In order to gamble, one needs to make wire transfers into an
> > account with the gambling company.  That account is then made to make wagers
> > and receive winnings.  I assume there is some way to get the money out if
> > one wins, but I don't know how it works.
>
> I just checked several online gambling sites, they're all still showing
> VISA, Mastercard and American Express icons or indicating that they accept
> those credit cards to fund your account.
>
> Even with a wire transfer there's still a paper trail.
> --
> Mike Nolan
>
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From nolan at romaine.tssi.com  Tue Oct 25 16:19:19 2005
From: nolan at romaine.tssi.com (Mike Nolan)
Date: Tue Oct 25 16:19:23 2005
Subject: [NU Sports] gambling and college athletes (fwd)
In-Reply-To: <fcb3ee270510251401p1d54d843t12d578c04f6f5353@mail.gmail.com>
	from "Jonathan Hodges" at Oct 25, 2005 04:01:51 PM
Message-ID: <200510252119.j9PLJJ0K014679@romaine.tssi.com>

> What is interesting is that these gambling sites are almost all run
> out of the country (i.e. Cayman Islands, etc.) where they are not
> subject to any specific country's laws.  This makes tracking down the
> gamblers and the bookies extremely difficult, if not impossible, to
> find, particularly by the NCAA.  

The secrecy of accounts in the Caymans is highly overrated, especially when
the FBI decides to get involved.  They're capable of tracking much more
sophisticated money laundering schemes than what most college students
are likely to try.  

And I don't buy the 'grain of sand' argument at all, because grains of sand 
aren't made part of a relational database and virtually every non-anonymous 
money transfer is.  It's not very hard for the police or the FBI to search 
for a transaction once they suspect it exists.

The biggest reason this hasn't hit the fan yet is that for the most part
these are small potatoes transactions, and these days it takes a really BIG
number or some other factor (like terrorism or murder) to get the FBI 
interested.

My best guess:  When a scandal along these lines surfaces at the NCAA, 
it'll be uncovered while investigating something else.  
--
Mike Nolan

From thiegs at umn.edu  Tue Oct 25 16:16:41 2005
From: thiegs at umn.edu (Joe Thiegs)
Date: Tue Oct 25 16:20:29 2005
Subject: [NU Sports] gambling and college athletes (fwd)
In-Reply-To: <200510252030.j9PKUd4Z014064@romaine.tssi.com>
Message-ID: <001e01c5d9a9$64eb74a0$fb326580@jthiegs2003>

I think there's almost zero chance of enforcement of an NCAA student-athlete
gambling ban unless the student-athletes participating in the gambling are
openly talking about it.  Even if the gambling student-athlete uses a credit
card, how is that going to get noticed?  Say your name is Michael Robinson.
(Not that Michael Robinson of Penn State would wager on games; I'm just
using his name hypothetically.)  Even if credit card transactions are being
screened for student-athlete names, how many Michael Robinsons are there
besides the PSU quarterback?  Probably a lot, and I doubt there's a great
way to differentiate student-athletes from non-student-athletes.  Plus, I
don't think any of that information would surface without a subpoena or some
other form of legal discovery, and you're not going to get into that in the
first place without a good reason to investigate.  So if gambling
student-athletes keep their mouths shut, no instances of their gambling are
ever likely to come to light.

I have a more basic question, though:  What is it, exactly, that some find
so abhorrent about an athlete betting on a game in which he/she is not
participating?  I'm not talking about placing bets with money students can't
afford to lose (which rules out a lot of student gambling anyway...well, if
not at NU, at a lot of schools).  I'm talking about casual betting of truly
disposable income.  I have to admit that I'm having a hard time coming up
with good reasons to oppose the practice when narrowed to those parameters.
Perhaps the answer--if there is one--lies to some extent in the assumed fact
that student-athlete gambling rarely stays within those parameters.
However, I would feel a little hypocritical condemning a student placing
bets on games in which he/she isn't involved.  I mean, in my one trip to
Vegas so far in my life I spent most of the time in various sports books
(during the opening three days of March Madness a couple of years
ago--absolute Nirvana!), and I placed more than a couple of bets--ranging
from $11 to $44--on a number of college basketball games.  I hope that
doesn't make me a bad person, and I don't think it does.  I'd do it again,
gosh darn it!

-Joe

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Sent: Tuesday, October 25, 2005 3:31 PM
To: Peter C. Warner
Cc: nwu-sports@romaine.tssi.com
Subject: Re: [NU Sports] gambling and college athletes (fwd)


> The US gov't got credit card companies to agree (or by law, I'm not 
> sure
> which) a couple of years ago to refuse to deal with the off-shore gambling
> companies.  In order to gamble, one needs to make wire transfers into an
> account with the gambling company.  That account is then made to make
wagers
> and receive winnings.  I assume there is some way to get the money out if
> one wins, but I don't know how it works.

I just checked several online gambling sites, they're all still showing 
VISA, Mastercard and American Express icons or indicating that they accept
those credit cards to fund your account.

Even with a wire transfer there's still a paper trail.
--
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From johnl at mac.com  Tue Oct 25 17:19:57 2005
From: johnl at mac.com (John Labbe)
Date: Tue Oct 25 17:39:15 2005
Subject: [NU Sports] gambling and college athletes (fwd)
In-Reply-To: <001e01c5d9a9$64eb74a0$fb326580@jthiegs2003>
References: <001e01c5d9a9$64eb74a0$fb326580@jthiegs2003>
Message-ID: <4505639.1130278797229.JavaMail.johnl@mac.com>

Are you kidding me?  Betting on a sport in which you participate is verboten.  Ever heard of Pete Rose?  True, I think he bet on his own team (to win, never to lose), but he also bet on lots of other baseball teams, and it's prohibited regardless of which teams he bet on.

This rule has to do with a lot of things.  Mainly, I think it has to do with avoiding the appearance of impropriety and upholding the integrity of the institution.  Can you imagine how much it would degrade college sports if players were betting on each other all the time?  If they were trying to get inside information on other teams to place bets?  If it appeared that they were placing bets for friends on other teams or possibly throwing games?  I can't imagine what that would look like.  The same thing goes for professional sports for players in the same league.

Betting on college sports by everyone else is OK, so I don't think you're a bad person, although I've always thought it was a little odd, and I personally wouldn't approve except in moderation.  It's a sad thing, in my opinion, to see people mad at college athletes because they lost money on a game.

On Tuesday, October 25, 2005, at 05:21PM, Joe Thiegs <thiegs@umn.edu> wrote:

>
>I have a more basic question, though:  What is it, exactly, that some find
>so abhorrent about an athlete betting on a game in which he/she is not
>participating?  I'm not talking about placing bets with money students can't
>afford to lose (which rules out a lot of student gambling anyway...well, if
>not at NU, at a lot of schools).  I'm talking about casual betting of truly
>disposable income.  I have to admit that I'm having a hard time coming up
>with good reasons to oppose the practice when narrowed to those parameters.
>Perhaps the answer--if there is one--lies to some extent in the assumed fact
>that student-athlete gambling rarely stays within those parameters.
>However, I would feel a little hypocritical condemning a student placing
>bets on games in which he/she isn't involved.  I mean, in my one trip to
>Vegas so far in my life I spent most of the time in various sports books
>(during the opening three days of March Madness a couple of years
>ago--absolute Nirvana!), and I placed more than a couple of bets--ranging
>from $11 to $44--on a number of college basketball games.  I hope that
>doesn't make me a bad person, and I don't think it does.  I'd do it again,
>gosh darn it!
>
>-Joe
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: nwu-sports-bounces@tssi.com [mailto:nwu-sports-bounces@tssi.com] On
>Behalf Of Mike Nolan
>Sent: Tuesday, October 25, 2005 3:31 PM
>To: Peter C. Warner
>Cc: nwu-sports@romaine.tssi.com
>Subject: Re: [NU Sports] gambling and college athletes (fwd)
>
>
>> The US gov't got credit card companies to agree (or by law, I'm not 
>> sure
>> which) a couple of years ago to refuse to deal with the off-shore gambling
>> companies.  In order to gamble, one needs to make wire transfers into an
>> account with the gambling company.  That account is then made to make
>wagers
>> and receive winnings.  I assume there is some way to get the money out if
>> one wins, but I don't know how it works.
>
>I just checked several online gambling sites, they're all still showing 
>VISA, Mastercard and American Express icons or indicating that they accept
>those credit cards to fund your account.
>
>Even with a wire transfer there's still a paper trail.
>--
>Mike Nolan
>
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From jleonard518 at yahoo.com  Tue Oct 25 16:41:23 2005
From: jleonard518 at yahoo.com (Jim Leonard)
Date: Tue Oct 25 18:29:13 2005
Subject: [NU Sports] gambling and college athletes (fwd)
In-Reply-To: <200510252119.j9PLJJ0K014679@romaine.tssi.com>
Message-ID: <20051025214123.14958.qmail@web30304.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

On the surface, I think an athlete wagering $5 - $10 on games he/she isn't
participating in is rather harmless. However, gambling rarely stays in control.


If you start to win on the $5 bets, you think 'heck, this is easy money' and
start making larger bets. Then, a few don't go your way so you double the
amount to try to recover (See the film "Two for the Money" for some excellent
examples). Then, when a student-athlete gets in over his head, he is more
likely to cut a deal with a bookie/low-life to start shaving points to get out
of debt. I think that is why the NCAA has a blanket rule against it. 

This is obviously going on at numerous NCAA schools across numerous sports. I'm
not trying to pick a fight here, but I've heard baseball players' habits are
worse. And, as others have pointed out, the NCAA won't do anything to help
school's prevent it, but they nail a school to the wall when it finds out. 

Jim




		
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From jleonard518 at yahoo.com  Tue Oct 25 17:40:52 2005
From: jleonard518 at yahoo.com (Jim Leonard)
Date: Tue Oct 25 18:41:03 2005
Subject: [NU Sports] Re: gambling and college athletes (update)
In-Reply-To: <200510252119.j9PLJJ0K014679@romaine.tssi.com>
Message-ID: <20051025224053.70166.qmail@web30307.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

All,

I found out a little bit more about how my co-worker and his teammates did/do
their gambling. It was online using a site hosted in the Cayman Islands. They
apparently allow you to bet as little as $5 per game so long as you have at
least $20 in your account. You can add money using a wire tranfer, money order,
or credit card. 

The scary/stupid part of this guy's college experience was how easily they
could have been caught by the NCAA (or any law enforcement agency). One guy on
the team would collect the bets and the money. Then, the guy's wife (ie - same
last name, address, and probably a joint checking account) would go online and
place the bets. I asked this guy if it was traceable and he said "absolutely". 

So, from what I gather, NCAA athletes are not only ignoring the NCAA's
warnings, but they aren't really taking the NCAA seriously in terms of being
caught. This is probably a looming crisis on many campuses. 

Jim




	
		
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From nolan at romaine.tssi.com  Tue Oct 25 18:48:33 2005
From: nolan at romaine.tssi.com (Mike Nolan)
Date: Tue Oct 25 18:48:36 2005
Subject: [NU Sports] gambling and college athletes (fwd)
Message-ID: <200510252348.j9PNmXhd015801@romaine.tssi.com>

> Betting on college sports by everyone else is OK.

Notwithstanding the unclear legality of online betting, by far the majority 
of all sports betting is done illegally.  
--
Mike Nolan

From sjtruog at yahoo.com  Wed Oct 26 00:34:21 2005
From: sjtruog at yahoo.com (SjT (Stephen J. Truog))
Date: Wed Oct 26 00:42:30 2005
Subject: [NU Sports] PIGSKIN PICKS - Standings
Message-ID: <20051026053422.24864.qmail@web52907.mail.yahoo.com>

I see they're handing out purple rally towels Saturday
(but only for the first 10,000 - BOO!!!) ... not the
shiny purple shakers, but a start (now add shakers and
purple thundersticks for LaSalle homecoming). Also saw
that there are still seats left?!?!?!

Can't wait for Saturday night ... Michigan 2000 was
big, and any night game is electric, but this one
really feels more and more like PSU 1995. Defending
champs coming into town under the lights ... a chance
to get the nation's attention to take us seriously ...
a team coming into its own. I just hope it ends like
that PSU '95 game.

As for the picks, here are the updated standings. Anu
questions - e-mail me.

No upset specials came through this week and all of ue
enjoyed some pretty good marks, so no much shakeup.

    NAME                WK 8  OVRL    PCT.  UPSET  WKS
======================================================
 1) Brad Wilson		8-2   72-23   .758    2     8
 2) Karen Capria	8-2   71-24   .747    6     8
 2) Alan Wolfson       10-0   71-24   .747    3     8
 4) Jonathan Hodges	9-1   70-25   .737    3     8
 4) Brad May		9-1   70-25   .737    3     8
 6) Jim Bendat		8-2   62-23   .729    5     7
 6) John Labbe		---   62-23   .729    7     7
 8) Chuck Herron	9-1   68-27   .716    2     8
 8) Eric Steffe		9-1   68-27   .716    4     8
 8) Stephen Truog	8-2   68-27   .716    2     8
 8) Ivars Embrekts     10-0   68-27   .716    4     8
 8) Eric Steffe	        9-1   68-27   .716    4     8
13) Matt Barnard	9-1   60-25   .706    1     7
14) Trey McAdams       10-0   67-28   .705    1     8
14) Arthur Miller	9-1   67-28   .705    6     8
14) Bob Schooler	8-2   67-28   .705    2     8
17) Michael Vance      10-0   59-26   .694    2     7
17) Scott Zeller	8-2   59-26   .694    4     7
19) Thomas Kettler	7-3   55-25   .688    6     7
19) Bruce Taylor	9-1   55-25   .688    3     7
19) Bob Waldele		8-2   55-25   .688    2     7
22) John Lieske		7-3   65-30   .684    3     8
22) Marilyn Zilka	9-1   65-30   .684    3     8
24) Denny Elsen		8-2   58-27   .682    2     7
25) John Luken		8-2   64-31   .674    2     8
25) David Warner	7-3   64-31   .674    3     8
27) Ryan Farney		9-1   63-32   .663    1     8
27) Kelly Sevilla	9-1   63-32   .663    7     8
29) Mark Ament		8-2   62-33   .653    1     8
29) Ace McInturff      10-0   62-33   .653   10     8
29) Sam Wolfson		7-3   62-33   .653    6     8
32) Phredd Groves	---   55-30   .647    1     7
32) Jim Leonard		8-2   55-30   .647    5     7
34) Brian Winkler	8-2   60-35   .632    1     8
35) Carol Rossi		8-2   49-31   .613    3     7
36) Jason Singer	---   43-32   .573    1     6

NOT ELIGIBLE AT THIS TIME
-------------------------
xx) Harlan Heiber	---   32-13   .711    0     3xx) Ray
Stahl		---   20-10   .667    0     2xx) Ty Levine		---
  19-11   .633    1     2
xx) Neil Cub		---   23-17   .575    1     3

WEAR PURPLE!!!
MAKE NOISE!!!

GO CATS!!!
-SjT

* * * * * * * * *
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From rstetson at capps-assoc.com  Wed Oct 26 08:07:24 2005
From: rstetson at capps-assoc.com (Roy Lamberton)
Date: Wed Oct 26 08:34:20 2005
Subject: [NU Sports] gambling and college athletes (fwd)
In-Reply-To: <200510252348.j9PNmXhd015801@romaine.tssi.com>
Message-ID: <000f01c5da2e$3529a680$6500a8c0@DAVIDXP>

While I don't have any personal first hand knowledge, I'm sure that college
athletes play a lot of poker, etc. in the dorm after hours. 

What I don't understand is where all this money comes from. ???

rsl

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> -----Original Message-----
> From: nwu-sports-bounces@tssi.com 
> [mailto:nwu-sports-bounces@tssi.com] On Behalf Of Mike Nolan
> Sent: Tuesday, October 25, 2005 7:49 PM
> To: nwu-sports@romaine.tssi.com
> Subject: RE: [NU Sports] gambling and college athletes (fwd)
> 
> 
> > Betting on college sports by everyone else is OK.
> 
> Notwithstanding the unclear legality of online betting, by 
> far the majority 
> of all sports betting is done illegally.  
> --
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From rstetson at capps-assoc.com  Wed Oct 26 09:27:22 2005
From: rstetson at capps-assoc.com (Roy Lamberton)
Date: Wed Oct 26 09:34:13 2005
Subject: [NU Sports] beating a dead horse
In-Reply-To: <6A0419188B49A54C960893D230C26807084AE5FD@goose.latimes.com>
Message-ID: <001301c5da39$615b6da0$6500a8c0@DAVIDXP>

Had a chance to talk with one of the defensive coaches Monday - mainly about my
youth team's antics in D-Linemen learning how to run stunts, but we agreed that
what is now different about the NU D is that we're reacting to situations
instead of think through them.

To put it in the frame of reference with 12 year olds, we have to teach them how
to read certain plays and then react to them. The kids who have to do this,
mainly our 3 D-Backs and middle linebacker, are still learning two or three
reads a play, facing a known offense, a variation of the Wing-T.

In any more complex defense, the kids behind the line have to pick up the WR's
coming out and watch for sweeps, runs up the middle, essentially 4 or 5 [or more
things] that they personally have to do to shut down another team's offense. The
more things the offense does, the harder it is for the defense, and the main
thing that lets you stop most of today's multi faceted offenses is a fast read
and reaction by the folks down field.

If there's one thing that our defensive backs are doing differently right now is
that instead of trying to remember all the different reads, they're just
reacting to what is thrown at them.

The one second difference in reaction time is why we're making the picks and
getting what the pros call coverage sacks and keeping teams out of the end zone.

Yes, I'd like to see NU ranked higher in yards given up, but our points allowed
number is heading down, and if we're going to win a few more games, that trend
will have to continue. 

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> -----Original Message-----
> From: nwu-sports-bounces@tssi.com 
> [mailto:nwu-sports-bounces@tssi.com] On Behalf Of Abrahamson, Alan
> Sent: Monday, October 24, 2005 10:05 PM
> To: 'Jim Bendat'
> Cc: 'nwu-sports@tssi.com'
> Subject: [NU Sports] beating a dead horse
> 
> 
>  Hey, Lloyd Carr has it right! Our offense is indeed incredible. 
>  The current NCAA stats show us at fourth in the country in 
> team offense -- behind only USC, Texas Tech and Michigan State. 
>  It's our defense that it is also incredible. As in, 'Uh-oh, 
> it is incredible that Northwestern could be 5-2 with that 
> defense.' We are now ranked dead last in the country -- 117th 
> out of 117, giving up a magnanimous 504.43 yards per game. We 
> give up a generous 6.55 yards per play. 


From brian.h.winkler at accenture.com  Wed Oct 26 10:43:59 2005
From: brian.h.winkler at accenture.com (brian.h.winkler@accenture.com)
Date: Wed Oct 26 10:49:11 2005
Subject: [NU Sports] Bears' Lovie Smith and NU
Message-ID: <CBE0C91AC1DE7245B4A9444B2F1A7058D0ED6B@AMRXM1112.dir.svc.accenture.com>

A friend mentioned during the Bears post game last week that Lovie Smith
said it was a great weekend, the Bears win, and NU won where his son is
a student.  It got me to wonder if there is any relationship between the
Bears and NU coaching staff.  Given the proximity of Bears to NU, you
would think NU could get coaching support, clinics, etc.   

Are there NCAA rules against this?  I recognize the NFL/NCAA seasons are
concurrent so in season it would be tough, but there could be
opportunities in the offseason.  

Why wouldn't Murphy/Walker try to leverage this resource?  (No comments
on Bears on-the-field performance!)



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From jonathanwhodges at gmail.com  Wed Oct 26 09:59:41 2005
From: jonathanwhodges at gmail.com (Jonathan Hodges)
Date: Wed Oct 26 10:59:20 2005
Subject: [NU Sports] gambling and college athletes (fwd)
In-Reply-To: <000f01c5da2e$3529a680$6500a8c0@DAVIDXP>
References: <200510252348.j9PNmXhd015801@romaine.tssi.com>
	<000f01c5da2e$3529a680$6500a8c0@DAVIDXP>
Message-ID: <fcb3ee270510260759t558ca52h8e1babfc53b101c2@mail.gmail.com>

> What I don't understand is where all this money comes from. ???

Those credit cards that are peddled all over campus that put college
students in debt.  This is a particular issue now that students can
gamble over the internet via credit card.  Usually, the gambling that
takes place is relatively small scale (a few guys from the hallway
throwing a game together for a few bucks), although I knew of some
people that routinely went down to the casinos in Indiana and/or
played online.  That obviously led to more problems due to the amount
of money involved.  I guess some people use their spending money/food
money to gamble, and some others may get a lot of extra money from
their parents or something, but the fact is that typically it just
puts college students into a lot of debt.

I don't see anything wrong with it as entertainment (although I
personally see better things to do with my money), although it seems
to be out of control on unregulated web sites that are run in another
country.  Of course, the NCAA or any particular university doesn't and
shouldn't have the power to investigate every student's transactions,
and I don't think policing the matter would do any good.  In terms of
athletes, they really shouldn't be treated any differently than any
other student as long as they aren't affecting the outcome of games
that they put money on.  Of course, this is difficult to discover as
well since the NCAA doesn't have the resources of a law enforcement
organization.

I personally think the NCAA, conferences, and member institutions
should be creating programs to help those with gambling problems and
working at the root cause instead of just policing and punishing those
who get caught.  The big gamblers and the ones whoe have the biggest
problems know how to avoid getting caught.

Jonathan
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> > [mailto:nwu-sports-bounces@tssi.com] On Behalf Of Mike Nolan
> > Sent: Tuesday, October 25, 2005 7:49 PM
> > To: nwu-sports@romaine.tssi.com
> > Subject: RE: [NU Sports] gambling and college athletes (fwd)
> >
> >
> > > Betting on college sports by everyone else is OK.
> >
> > Notwithstanding the unclear legality of online betting, by
> > far the majority
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From jeffb at hilgraeve.com  Wed Oct 26 11:21:57 2005
From: jeffb at hilgraeve.com (Jeff Beamsley)
Date: Wed Oct 26 11:26:51 2005
Subject: [NU Sports] gambling and college athletes (fwd)
In-Reply-To: <fcb3ee270510260759t558ca52h8e1babfc53b101c2@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <0a0901c5da49$6352dd90$97492745@hilgraeve.com>

Jonathan wrote <snip>

I don't see anything wrong with it as entertainment (although I personally
see better things to do with my money), although it seems to be out of
control on unregulated web sites that are run in another country.  Of
course, the NCAA or any particular university doesn't and shouldn't have the
power to investigate every student's transactions, and I don't think
policing the matter would do any good.  In terms of athletes, they really
shouldn't be treated any differently than any other student as long as they
aren't affecting the outcome of games that they put money on.  Of course,
this is difficult to discover as well since the NCAA doesn't have the
resources of a law enforcement organization.

I personally think the NCAA, conferences, and member institutions should be
creating programs to help those with gambling problems and working at the
root cause instead of just policing and punishing those who get caught.  The
big gamblers and the ones whoe have the biggest problems know how to avoid
getting caught.

===================================

The issue isn't gambling as entertainment.  The issue is athletes (college
or otherwise) betting on the outcome of their own games.  That's where the
NCAA and every other body governing sport has a responsibility to get
involved.  It is their job to make sure that the games they sanction meet a
particular standard of fairness and transparency.  The alternative is the
world of pseudo-sports like WWF and NASCAR (just kidding).  

The easiest thing to do, as the NCAA has done, is to say that you just can't
place sports bets and expect to participate in NCAA sanctioned events.  Just
like you can't take performance enhancing drugs or skip school.  

Beyond that, I agree that the NCAA should be just as proactive in helping
students and coaches deal with the issues of gambling addiction as they are
in helping them deal with all of the other special pressures of being (or
coaching) a student athlete.

Jeff



From Alan.Abrahamson at latimes.com  Wed Oct 26 11:33:57 2005
From: Alan.Abrahamson at latimes.com (Abrahamson, Alan)
Date: Wed Oct 26 11:41:51 2005
Subject: [NU Sports] interesting story in the daily
Message-ID: <6A0419188B49A54C960893D230C26807084AE65B@goose.latimes.com>

 The story is about senior safety Frederic Tarver due back in the starting lineup this weekend against big bad blue.
 But the real news is the follow-on item, at the bottom of the layout, about how Nick Roach is healthy. Healthy, he is a force at linebacker -- 19 tackles over the past two games as opposed to 21 in the first five games. "His improved play has coincided with better defensive performance for the Cats," the article notes. Hmm. You think?
 Also, this ironic nugget, for those who would -- at the risk of raining on a parade -- keep pointing out the Cats' hilarious defensive statistics. (Who? Me?!) Senior safety Herschel Henderson was named the Bronko Nagurski national defensive player of the week for his performance against Sparty. Tim McGarigle earned the nod two weeks ago. Since we are all Northwestern graduates (or students), I will assume that everyone understand the irony keenly. Obviously, I would have to explain if this list were, say, Ohio State rooters ...  
 I also feel compelled, since most of us on this list are college fb junkies, to point out an excellent college fb blog. Go to http://thewizardofodds.blogspot.com. No www in the URL. Down the list you'll find a mid-season report card from a writer in Iowa City that gives the Wildcats top marks. Surprisingly (I mean this for real), McGarigle isn't mentioned as a defensive standout (because lord knows he truly is outstanding).
 Yours in purple, Alan

From Sanford_Stein at rush.edu  Wed Oct 26 11:59:43 2005
From: Sanford_Stein at rush.edu (Sanford_Stein@rush.edu)
Date: Wed Oct 26 12:06:33 2005
Subject: [NU Sports] gambling and college athletes (fwd)
In-Reply-To: <fcb3ee270510260759t558ca52h8e1babfc53b101c2@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <OF5D611896.599189E2-ON862570A6.005C998B-862570A6.005DF725@rsh.net>





It seems unfair to me to dump on college athletes who engage
in Internet betting (assuming that they stay away from any game
over which their participation has an influence) when gambling has
become so pervasive in our economic system:   State lotteries to
fund education, casinos in almost every state, etc.  After all, what is
the stock market but one big casino?

I don't condone any of this (the lotteries in particular constitute a
regressive tax on the poor), but that's the way society has been
moving in the lifetime of these college kids, so it is not hard to see
why they find nothing wrong with sports betting.

From spiritu at northwestern.edu  Wed Oct 26 13:02:11 2005
From: spiritu at northwestern.edu (Jonathan Michael Hawkins)
Date: Wed Oct 26 13:03:29 2005
Subject: [NU Sports] PIGSKIN PICKS - Standings
In-Reply-To: <20051026053422.24864.qmail@web52907.mail.yahoo.com>
References: <20051026053422.24864.qmail@web52907.mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.64.0510261218590.10650@localhost>

> (but only for the first 10,000 - BOO!!!) ... not the
> shiny purple shakers, but a start (now add shakers and
> purple thundersticks for LaSalle homecoming). Also saw
> that there are still seats left?!?!?!

First, thundersticks?  Thundersticks!?!?  Please g-d, no.  Unless they 
come with a free set of ear plugs and an actual stick to beat the person 
behind you with when they won't stop blowing your eardrums out.  ;-)

There being seats left is an embarassment to the University, its alums, 
and especially the Wildcat Athletics Marketing department.  Let's hope 
those guys figure it out by Friday so there can be a nice full stadium on 
Saturday night.  I know it's hard to sell out Dyche, but two ranked teams 
at night on national TV, and with one of them being a local team on 
Homecoming, and the other team being Michigan, in the beautiful city of 
Chicago... well, the AD might want to call on NU's fine B-School to get 
some assistance in selling what should be an easy game to sell.

I just talked to the Wildcat ticket office and they have not sold out yet, 
but they say they've got "very limited" seats remaining.  Hope springs 
eternal.

Gameday has decided to go from Florida, to help publicize the Cocktail 
Party for CBS.  Good work, ESPN.

Go 'Cats,

Jonathan

From thiegs at umn.edu  Wed Oct 26 13:43:55 2005
From: thiegs at umn.edu (Joe Thiegs)
Date: Wed Oct 26 13:47:50 2005
Subject: [NU Sports] PIGSKIN PICKS - Standings
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.64.0510261218590.10650@localhost>
Message-ID: <001e01c5da5d$383b6f00$fb326580@jthiegs2003>


>> (but only for the first 10,000 - BOO!!!) ... not the
>> shiny purple shakers, but a start (now add shakers and
>> purple thundersticks for LaSalle homecoming). Also saw
>> that there are still seats left?!?!?!

> First, thundersticks?  Thundersticks!?!?  Please g-d, no.  Unless they 
> come with a free set of ear plugs and an actual stick to beat the person 
> behind you with when they won't stop blowing your eardrums out.  ;-)

Amen, Jonathan.  Those stupid things and a couple of not-quite-yet-mature
pre-teens just about ruined our annual trip to Dyche/Ryan three years ago.
My wife actually left our seats for a while.  As I recall, I politely
mentioned to the offenders that it was all right to bang the sticks together
periodically but asked if they would hold off on doing it non-stop.  I don't
think they responded verbally but stopped for a little while.  Later, when
they started in again and kept at it continuously, I again asked them to
tone it down and later had to shoot them a few really dirty looks (I'm not
too menacing, but I tried) before they'd quit.  I am not at all prone to
violence--in fact, I consider myself quite the pacifist most of the time and
I've never experienced road rage beyond annoyance--but that was probably the
closest I've ever come to really losing it.  For those of us with acute
hearing it's pretty painful.

I was determined to write the company that provided those awful things an
angry letter (I think it was LaSalle Bank that day too, come to think of it)
but never followed through.  Here's a guideline for any and all
promotional/marketing people:  NO LOUD ARTIFICIAL NOISEMAKERS!*  Hand-claps,
stomps, yells, and whistles (even loud, fingers-in-the-mouth whistles)
unaided by manufactured materials are okay.  Thundersticks are not.  If
others think thundersticks are okay, then I suggest we provide portable amps
and microphones to fans so we can create ear-splitting feedback loops.
Either that or airhorns for everyone.  Sure, we'd have to start selling
clean underwear at the concession stands, a number of fans might have heart
attacks, and children would be crying everywhere.  But I bet it would make
things difficult for opposing offenses, and isn't that really the most
important thing?  [eye roll] 

Okay, that's the end of that rant (for now)....  :)

-Joe


* Band members exempt


From tkmaycock at yahoo.com  Wed Oct 26 14:17:02 2005
From: tkmaycock at yahoo.com (Tom Maycock)
Date: Wed Oct 26 14:18:11 2005
Subject: [NU Sports] PIGSKIN PICKS - Standings
In-Reply-To: <001e01c5da5d$383b6f00$fb326580@jthiegs2003>
Message-ID: <20051026191702.51242.qmail@web33111.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

> > First, thundersticks?  Thundersticks!?!?  Please g-d, no.  Unless
> they 
> > come with a free set of ear plugs and an actual stick to beat the
> person 
> > behind you with when they won't stop blowing your eardrums out. 
> ;-)
> 
> Amen, Jonathan.  

Another ditto on the thundersticks. Those should only be used to bash
the inventor of said thunderstick repeatedly about the head.

Note that, at least as far as I've seen, no real schools has to rely on
such contraptions in order for the fans to make noise. They are merely
crutches for the lame and unmotivated. 

Yes, Ryan has been far too quiet this year. But I've heard Dyche/Ryan
echo with the roar of excited NU fans using only their hands, feat, and
vocal chords, and I'm sure I'll hear it again. No artificial aids,
stimulants, or toys required.

Tom

From sjtruog at yahoo.com  Wed Oct 26 14:52:50 2005
From: sjtruog at yahoo.com (SjT (Stephen J. Truog))
Date: Wed Oct 26 14:54:06 2005
Subject: [NU Sports] PIGSKIN PICKS - Standings
In-Reply-To: <20051026191702.51242.qmail@web33111.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <20051026195251.46957.qmail@web52912.mail.yahoo.com>

> > > First, thundersticks?  Thundersticks!?!?  Please
> g-d, no.  Unless

YES! YES! They're purple (or can be made purple) and
they MAKE NOISE!!! We're not at a tennis match or in
church - this is a football game. MAKE NOISE!!!

> Note that, at least as far as I've seen, no real
> schools has to rely on
> such contraptions in order for the fans to make
> noise. They are merely
> crutches for the lame and unmotivated. 

Really? Ever see an SEC game? They ALL have
team-colored shakers and they shake 'em like CRAZY
making noise. I've seen thundersticks at a few college
games this year (I think Purdue game 'em out vs. us if
I remember). And PSU for the OSU game had 15,000
students in solid white and lots of blue and white
objects to shake and yell with.

It's school spirit - it's college football.

WEAR PURPLE!!! MAKE NOISE!!!

> echo with the roar of excited NU fans using only
> their hands, feat, and
> vocal chords, and I'm sure I'll hear it again. No
> artificial aids,
> stimulants, or toys required.

Back in '95 for the PSU game and '00 for Michigan, I
believe, they gave out the purple shakers (pom pons)
at the gate. I know for some of the homecoming games
(Purdue a few years back) we had thundersticks. It
adds to the fun and noise.

I'd love it if our fans all wore the team colors,
stood on third down, clapped in unison and made noise
like the Cheeseheads in Madison just out of their own
spirit too ... but if we can do something else to help
and have a flash of Purple Haze on national TV, even
better!

WEAR PURPLE!!!
MAKE NOISE!!!
GO CATS!!!
- SjT

* * * * * * * * *
STEPHEN J. TRUOG
sjtruog@yahoo.com
GO CATS!!!


		
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From sjtruog at yahoo.com  Wed Oct 26 15:03:53 2005
From: sjtruog at yahoo.com (SjT (Stephen J. Truog))
Date: Wed Oct 26 15:05:04 2005
Subject: [NU Sports] Bears' Lovie Smith and NU
In-Reply-To: <CBE0C91AC1DE7245B4A9444B2F1A7058D0ED6B@AMRXM1112.dir.svc.accenture.com>
Message-ID: <20051026200353.28764.qmail@web52902.mail.yahoo.com>

> Bears and NU coaching staff.  Given the proximity of
> Bears to NU, you
> would think NU could get coaching support, clinics,
> etc.   
> 
> Why wouldn't Murphy/Walker try to leverage this
> resource?  (No comments
> on Bears on-the-field performance!)

Actually, Lovie's a heck of a defensive coach and
Walker's shown his ability on offense ... put the two
heads together and Chicagoland might have one helluva
team!:)

I dunno that there's any rule against just sittin' and
talkin' (Lord knows NBC hits us over the head every
Notre Dame game about how many times Tom Brady has
called Brady Quinn and how Charlie Weis and his
ring-toting Patriot buddies have offered advice). 

There probably (?) are regulations against tangible
aid in equipment, coaching sessions, workout
facilities or such (???) but two coaches could always
just talk and swap ideas.

Might be a good idea for both to help the other out.

WEAR PURPLE!!!
MAKE NOISE!!!
GO CATS!!!
-SjT

* * * * * * * * *
STEPHEN J. TRUOG
sjtruog@yahoo.com
GO CATS!!!


		
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From jleonard518 at yahoo.com  Wed Oct 26 15:07:05 2005
From: jleonard518 at yahoo.com (Jim Leonard)
Date: Wed Oct 26 15:08:12 2005
Subject: [NU Sports] Thundersticks 
In-Reply-To: <20051026195251.46957.qmail@web52912.mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <20051026200705.90771.qmail@web30314.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

I know this all too well from experience. The only thing more annoying than the
general concept of thundersticks, is standing in the NUMBalum section at
Homecoming next to Stephen Truog when he has a pair of them. 

On the off chance that thundersticks are distributed on Saturday, I hearby
designate the Michigan game as "Thumbtack Night at Dyche".

Respectfully,
Jim

--- "SjT (Stephen J. Truog)" <sjtruog@yahoo.com> wrote:
> YES! YES! They're purple (or can be made purple) and
> they MAKE NOISE!!! We're not at a tennis match or in
> church - this is a football game. MAKE NOISE!!!



	
		
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From szeller at comcast.net  Wed Oct 26 15:12:48 2005
From: szeller at comcast.net (szeller@comcast.net)
Date: Wed Oct 26 15:13:48 2005
Subject: [NU Sports] PIGSKIN PICKS - Standings
Message-ID: <102620052012.23643.435FE33F000F100A00005C5B22070016419D0A04040A969C@comcast.net>

Wow -- couldn't agree more. No offense to the previous poster, but it sounds like he wants to attend a chamber music concert, not a game. 
Much of a home field advantage comes from boisterous fans rockin' the house. 
Fans who constantly "shhh!" and yell "sit down!" on a big play should really reconsider their entertainment choices. That certainly wouldn't fly at Happy Valley or the Big House.

Scott Zeller MD
Med '86

-------------- Original message -------------- 

> > > > First, thundersticks? Thundersticks!?!? Please 
> > g-d, no. Unless 
> 
> YES! YES! They're purple (or can be made purple) and 
> they MAKE NOISE!!! We're not at a tennis match or in 
> church - this is a football game. MAKE NOISE!!! 
> 
> > Note that, at least as far as I've seen, no real 
> > schools has to rely on 
> > such contraptions in order for the fans to make 
> > noise. They are merely 
> > crutches for the lame and unmotivated. 
> 
> Really? Ever see an SEC game? They ALL have 
> team-colored shakers and they shake 'em like CRAZY 
> making noise. I've seen thundersticks at a few college 
> games this year (I think Purdue game 'em out vs. us if 
> I remember). And PSU for the OSU game had 15,000 
> students in solid white and lots of blue and white 
> objects to shake and yell with. 
> 
> It's school spirit - it's college football. 
> 
> WEAR PURPLE!!! MAKE NOISE!!! 
> 
> > echo with the roar of excited NU fans using only 
> > their hands, feat, and 
> > vocal chords, and I'm sure I'll hear it again. No 
> > artificial aids, 
> > stimulants, or toys required. 
> 
> Back in '95 for the PSU game and '00 for Michigan, I 
> believe, they gave out the purple shakers (pom pons) 
> at the gate. I know for some of the homecoming games 
> (Purdue a few years back) we had thundersticks. It 
> adds to the fun and noise. 
> 
> I'd love it if our fans all wore the team colors, 
> stood on third down, clapped in unison and made noise 
> like the Cheeseheads in Madison just out of their own 
> spirit too ... but if we can do something else to help 
> and have a flash of Purple Haze on national TV, even 
> better! 
> 
> WEAR PURPLE!!! 
> MAKE NOISE!!! 
> GO CATS!!! 
> - SjT 
> 
> * * * * * * * * * 
> STEPHEN J. TRUOG 
> sjtruog@yahoo.com 
> GO CATS!!! 
> 
> 
> 
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From tkmaycock at yahoo.com  Wed Oct 26 15:17:56 2005
From: tkmaycock at yahoo.com (Tom Maycock)
Date: Wed Oct 26 15:19:03 2005
Subject: [NU Sports] PIGSKIN PICKS - Standings
In-Reply-To: <20051026195251.46957.qmail@web52912.mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <20051026201756.28293.qmail@web33104.mail.mud.yahoo.com>



--- "SjT (Stephen J. Truog)" <sjtruog@yahoo.com> wrote:

> > > > First, thundersticks?  Thundersticks!?!?  Please
> > g-d, no.  Unless
> 
> YES! YES! They're purple (or can be made purple) and
> they MAKE NOISE!!! We're not at a tennis match or in
> church - this is a football game. MAKE NOISE!!!

Make Noise, yes. But good noise, not bad, shrill, annoying noise. 

Thundersticks == painful and annoying. 

49,000 yelling in unison = cool.


> Really? Ever see an SEC game? 

Note that I said "real school".... :-)

> games this year (I think Purdue game 'em out vs. us if
> I remember). 

And look how well that worked out.

> It's school spirit - it's college football.
> 
> WEAR PURPLE!!! MAKE NOISE!!!

Yes, but I would contend thundersticks==marketing gimmick for some
sponsor, not school spirit.

> 
> Back in '95 for the PSU game and '00 for Michigan, I
> believe, they gave out the purple shakers (pom pons)
> at the gate. 

Pom poms, yes, fine. I'm all for pom poms. Not thundersticks.

> (Purdue a few years back) we had thundersticks. It
> adds to the fun and noise.

But it wasn't anywhere near as loud as it was, say, in '96 against
Michigan. Repeat after me:

Thundersticks==annoying, shrill, ear damage. 

Real crowd roar==real intimdation.

Accept no substitute.

Tom

From tkmaycock at yahoo.com  Wed Oct 26 15:23:02 2005
From: tkmaycock at yahoo.com (Tom Maycock)
Date: Wed Oct 26 15:30:51 2005
Subject: [NU Sports] PIGSKIN PICKS - Standings
In-Reply-To: <102620052012.23643.435FE33F000F100A00005C5B22070016419D0A04040A969C@comcast.net>
Message-ID: <20051026202303.73102.qmail@web33103.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

--- szeller@comcast.net wrote:
> Wow -- couldn't agree more. No offense to the previous poster, but it
> sounds like he wants to attend a chamber music concert, not a game. 

No, no, no--I'm way in favor of the crowd making noise. It has been FAR
too quiet at Ryan this year. In fact, if you've been to a game this
year, you've probably heard me yelling, and just didn't know it.

What I'm opposed to is gimmicky noise makers. They're just an admission
of failure: "Hey, we're way too pathetic to make enough racket on our
own so we have to sit here like idiots clapping two stiff balloons
together to try to make up for it."

> That certainly
> wouldn't fly at Happy Valley or the Big House.

Niether should thundersticks--those are exactly the sort of places that
don't NEED gimmicky noisemakers!!!!

(I'm sure someone will now tell me that thundersticks have in fact
invaded PSU or Michigan games--and I will just have to shake my head in
disappointment).

Tom

From nolan at romaine.tssi.com  Wed Oct 26 15:38:05 2005
From: nolan at romaine.tssi.com (Mike Nolan)
Date: Wed Oct 26 15:38:07 2005
Subject: [NU Sports] Thundersticks (fwd)
Message-ID: <200510262038.j9QKc52q027868@romaine.tssi.com>

> I know this all too well from experience. The only thing more annoying than the
> general concept of thundersticks, is standing in the NUMBalum section at
> Homecoming next to Stephen Truog when he has a pair of them. 

It could be worse, Jim, you could be BEHIND Stephen Truog.  Then you wouldn't
be able to hear OR see.  :-)

I've been to one game where thundersticks were handed out, the visual
distraction was worse than the sound, IMHO.  But I'd still take them over
the wave, because my wife once suffered a mild concussion due to the wave 
when the [censored] in front of us bashed her in the head.

I've also seen someone in the upper deck lose his binoculars jumping up 
to do the wave.  The person sitting in the lower section who 'found' them
was not amused.
--
Mike Nolan 

From rstetson at capps-assoc.com  Wed Oct 26 17:15:35 2005
From: rstetson at capps-assoc.com (Roy Lamberton)
Date: Wed Oct 26 17:15:54 2005
Subject: [NU Sports] NU Sports News Digest 10/26
Message-ID: <001201c5da7a$ca384dc0$6500a8c0@DAVIDXP>

www.PurpleWildcats.com
for Purple Reign
& the NU Sports List


Back from the Road - Midweek Edition

Football at the top of the list, as 

                                              All the News that Fits We Link
                                                  Your Index to News about
                                               Northwestern University Athletics
FOOTBALL

     One more look back...
     Herschel Henderson Named Bronko Nagurski National Defensive Player of the
Week
      http://www.fansonly.com/schools/nw/sports/m-footbl/spec-rel/102505aaa.html

     + Northwestern is Tostitos Fiesta Bowl National Team of the Week
      http://www.fansonly.com/schools/nw/sports/m-footbl/spec-rel/102405aaa.html

     + Wildcats in tune on road
 
http://chicagosports.chicagotribune.com/sports/college/northwestern/cs-051023020
7oct23,1,6847999.story?coll=cs-college-nwestern-print 
     + Nearly purr-fect
 
http://chicagosports.chicagotribune.com/sports/college/northwestern/cs-051023021
2oct23,1,5340667.story?coll=cs-college-nwestern-print 
     + 4th-and-15 provided a necessary turning point 
 
http://www.dailynorthwestern.com/vnews/display.v/ART/2005/10/24/435c87f0c5107?in
_archive=1 
     + Cats notch road knockout
 
http://www.dailynorthwestern.com/vnews/display.v/ART/2005/10/24/435c8a9a8e06b?in
_archive=1 
     + Cats' defense shows its dominant side
 
http://www.dailynorthwestern.com/vnews/display.v/ART/2005/10/24/435c835228bc6?in
_archive=1 
     + QB leads team to 1st road victory over ranked opponent in 4 years
 
http://www.dailynorthwestern.com/vnews/display.v/ART/2005/10/24/435c83ff76860?in
_archive=1 

     Hey We're ranked!
     Wildcats Move Into AP and USA Today Top 25 Polls
      http://www.fansonly.com/schools/nw/sports/m-footbl/spec-rel/102305aab.html

     + Wildcats enter BCS standings at No. 21
 
http://chicagosports.chicagotribune.com/sports/college/northwestern/cs-051025022
8oct25,1,1600525.story?coll=cs-college-nwestern-print 
     + Wildcats find No. 21 heaven after rough start
 
http://chicagosports.chicagotribune.com/sports/college/northwestern/cs-051024013
7oct24,1,420874.story?coll=cs-college-nwestern-print 
     + Confident Wildcats ranked No. 21 in poll
      http://www.suntimes.com/output/campus/cst-spt-cats24.html 

     Back in the Swing of things
     No. 21 Northwestern Hosts No. 25 Michigan in PrimeTime
      http://www.fansonly.com/schools/nw/sports/m-footbl/spec-rel/102405aag.html

     + Secondary concern diminishing for NU
      http://www.suntimes.com/output/campus/cst-spt-nu25.html 
     + Henderson brings safety to NU defense
 
http://chicagosports.chicagotribune.com/sports/college/cs-051024nu,1,2220101.sto
ry?coll=cs-college-headlines 
     + Michigan coach Lloyd Carr doesn't want his offense to get too excited
about playing Northwestern's defense
 
http://chicagosports.chicagotribune.com/sports/college/northwestern/cs-051026023
5oct26,1,1600525.story?coll=cs-college-nwestern-print 
     + Defensive backfield reloads with veterans
 
http://www.dailynorthwestern.com/vnews/display.v/ART/2005/10/26/435f17f9b4564 
     + Walker: team can't become
 
http://www.dailynorthwestern.com/vnews/display.v/ART/2005/10/25/435dbe532a3c7?in
_archive=1 
     + Suddenly, outlook's rosy for Walker, Northwestern
      http://www.dailyherald.com/sports/northwestern.asp?id=110639 
     + Michigan vs. Northwestern
 
http://www.collegefootballnews.com/2005/Columnists/MZ/Week9/PP_Mich_NW.htm&cid=1
101988682 
     + Big Ten midterm grades posted
 
http://www.hawkcentral.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article%3FAID%3D/20051026/HAWKS0104/510
260308/1058&cid=1101988682 

     Last day for this one...
     Vote for Demetrius Eaton and his 'Pontiac Game Changing Performance'
      http://www.fansonly.com/schools/nw/sports/m-footbl/spec-rel/102305aag.html


     Quarterback Leads Northwestern Uprising
 
http://msn.foxsports.com/cfb/teamReport?categoryId=86065&type=StrategyAndPersonn
el 
     + Mature Basanez top Cat
      http://www.freep.com/sports/umich/um26e_20051026.htm&cid=1101916450 

     Sports Xchange: Inside Slant
      http://msn.foxsports.com/cfb/teamReport?categoryId=86065&type=InsideSlant 
     + Notes & Quotes
 
http://msn.foxsports.com/cfb/teamReport?categoryId=86065&type=NotesAndQuotes 
     + Strategy and Personnel
 
http://msn.foxsports.com/cfb/teamReport?categoryId=86065&type=StrategyAndPersonn
el 
     Monday 2-Deep 10/24
      http://northwestern.scout.com/2/457333.html 

Next Up

     Michigan Wolverines [10/29 Homecoming]
     Paterno, Carr hit win milestones
 
http://www.dailynorthwestern.com/vnews/display.v/ART/2005/10/26/435f15b44049d 
     + Wolverines end Hawkeyes' home winning streak
 
http://www.dailynorthwestern.com/vnews/display.v/ART/2005/10/24/435c8190978e1?in
_archive=1 
     + Wolverines' offense on spot against streaking Wildcats
      http://msnbc.msn.com/id/9820831/&cid=1101916450 
     + Michigan defense expects true test
      http://www.detnews.com/2005/um/0510/25/D06-359789.htm 
     + Defense finally earning respect
      http://www.freep.com/sports/umich/um25e_20051025.htm&cid=1101916450 
     + Coach Lloyd Carr Press Conference
      http://www.mgoblue.com/document_display.cfm?document_id=19430 
     + Monday Presser Highlights: Week Nine
      http://michigan.scout.com/2/457356.html 
     + Adams's eyes key in Blue's road win
      http://www.michigandaily.com/vnews/display.v/ART/2005/10/26/435f109c90d5b 
     + Singer: Other conferences have nothing on the Big Ten
      http://www.michigandaily.com/vnews/display.v/ART/2005/10/26/435f1117671f7 
     + Carty: U-M's primary strength - its secondary 
 
http://www.mlive.com/wolverines/aanews/football/index.ssf?/base/sports-1/1130337
758196010.xml&coll=2 
     + Michigan needs offense to deliver against Northwestern
 
http://www.mlive.com/sportsflash/college/index.ssf?/base/sports-14/1130190843212
860.xml&storylist=bigten 
     + Defense finally earning respect
      http://www.freep.com/sports/umich/um25e_20051025.htm 
     + Michigan grades
      http://www.detnews.com/2005/um/0510/26/D03-358755.htm 

     Sports Xchange on UM: Inside Slant
      http://msn.foxsports.com/cfb/teamReport?categoryId=86059&type=InsideSlant 
     + Notes and Quotes
 
http://msn.foxsports.com/cfb/teamReport?categoryId=86059&type=NotesAndQuotes 
     + Strategy and Personnel
 
http://msn.foxsports.com/cfb/teamReport?categoryId=86059&type=StrategyAndPersonn
el 

Future Big 10 Opponents:

     Iowa Hawkeyes [11/5] - Lost to Michigan 
     @ Ohio State Buckeyes [11/12]  Beat Indiana 41-10 
     Illinois Fighting Illini [11/19] 

Miscellaneous Football News:

     Big Ten Weekly Football Release - Oct. 24
 
http://www.fansonly.com/schools/big10/sports/m-footbl/spec-rel/102405aaf.html 

     How's that for offense/defense?
     D-II Central Wash. scores 27 in 79 seconds 
 
http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/rssclick/2005/football/ncaa/10/25/bc.fbc.scorin
grecord.ap/index.html?section=si_ncaaf 

Recruiting

     Top 5 Defensive Prospects

     Andrew Phillips New Offer Ends the Journey
      http://scout.scout.com/a.z?s=179&p=9&c=2&cid=457569&nid=1758561&fhn=1 
     John Ferrara Big Blue lands New York prospect
      http://scout.scout.com/a.z?s=179&p=9&c=2&cid=457388&nid=1775482&fhn=1 

BASKETBALL

     ESPN's Michael Wilbon Highlights 2005 Halloween HOOP-La Saturday Oct. 29
      http://www.fansonly.com/schools/nw/sports/m-baskbl/spec-rel/102005aab.html


     Fast Break Club Tip Off Dinner
      http://northwestern.scout.com/2/457316.html 

FIELD HOCKEY

     NU's offense absent in Big Ten season finale
 
http://www.dailynorthwestern.com/vnews/display.v/ART/2005/10/25/435dbd9fa0bef?in
_archive=1 

GOLF

     Wildcats Finish Strong, Place Seventh at Mercedes-Benz
      http://nusports.collegesports.com/sports/w-golf/recaps/102305aaa.html 

LACROSSE

     Former Wildcat McMahon Named Head Coach at Bentley
      http://nusports.collegesports.com/sports/w-lacros/spec-rel/101505aaa.html 

     Northwestern Releases 2005 Fall Schedule
      http://nusports.collegesports.com/sports/w-lacros/spec-rel/101205aaa.html 

SOCCER

     Men
     Northwestern Ties Tigers, 1-1
     + Wildcats go undefeated on both coasts to stay in contention for NCAA
berth

     Women
     Jones Named Big Ten Defensive Player of the Week
      http://www.fansonly.com/schools/nw/sports/w-soccer/spec-rel/102405aaa.html

     + Penn State and Northwestern Honored This Week
 
http://www.fansonly.com/schools/big10/sports/w-soccer/spec-rel/102405aab.html 

     Northwestern Falls to Loyola, 1-0
      http://nusports.collegesports.com/sports/w-soccer/recaps/102305aaa.html 
     NU captures overtime win to sustain hope for Big Tens
 
http://www.dailynorthwestern.com/vnews/display.v/ART/2005/10/25/435dc0cb9989b?in
_archive=1 

SWIMMING

     Matt Grevers Named to U.S. World Short Course Championships Squad
      http://www.fansonly.com/schools/nw/sports/m-swim/spec-rel/102505aab.html 

TENNIS

     Women [They have another tope #1 and 2 - again]
     Alexis Prousis Wins 2005 ITA Midwest Regional Singles Crown
      http://www.fansonly.com/schools/nw/sports/w-tennis/recaps/102505aab.html 

     Cristelle Grier and Alexis Prousis Capture Doubles Title at 2005 ITA
Midwest Regional Championships
      http://www.fansonly.com/schools/nw/sports/w-tennis/spec-rel/102405aab.html

     + Cristelle Grier and Alexis Prousis Roll Into Doubles Final at the 2005
ITA Midwest Regional Championships
      http://nusports.collegesports.com/sports/w-tennis/recaps/102405aab.html 
     + Pair of Wildcats dominate tourney
 
http://www.dailynorthwestern.com/vnews/display.v/ART/2005/10/26/435f19c989f29 

     Men
     Wildcats Conclude Play at 2005 ITA Regional Championships
      http://nusports.collegesports.com/sports/m-tennis/recaps/102305aac.html 

VOLLEYBALL

     Spartans spoil Cats' sweep of Michigan in a 'heartbreaker' 
 
http://www.dailynorthwestern.com/vnews/display.v/ART/2005/10/25/435dbf95f1e34?in
_archive=1 

WRESTLING

     Squad poised to continue success
 
http://www.dailynorthwestern.com/vnews/display.v/ART/2005/10/26/435f1aa8627c3 

MISCELLANY

     Naw, its not about the money...yeah, right
     Wheeler's dad portrayed as a deadbeat
 
http://chicagosports.chicagotribune.com/sports/college/cs-051025nuwheeler,1,3989
870.story?coll=cs-college-headlines 
     + Judge to decide how to split $16 mil. in NU player's death
      http://www.suntimes.com/output/news/cst-nws-rashidi26.html&cid=1101978473 
     Mara, 'moral conscience' of NFL, dead after 80 years with Giants
      http://www.dailysouthtown.com/southtown/dssports/pro/262sd3.htm 

     Here we go again!
     Air Force examining coach's comments on race
      http://msn.foxsports.com/cfb/story/5025942?CMP=OTC-K9B140813162&ATT=24 
     + DeBerry: AFA football lacks minority athletes 
 
http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/rssclick/2005/football/ncaa/10/26/bc.fbc.airfor
ce.coachco.ap/index.html?section=si_ncaaf 

ALUMNI

     Joe Girardi: Mailbag: What impact will Girardi have?
 
http://florida.marlins.mlb.com/NASApp/mlb/news/article.jsp?ymd=20051022&content_
id=1256845&vkey=news_fla&fext=.jsp&c_id=fla 

     PGA: [Links on Player's Name is their live scorecard]
     Luke Donald - The Volvo Masters Andalucia 
     http://www.sponsorship.volvo.com/vma2004/ 

     Order of Merit Race Reaches Spectacular Climax at Valderrama
 
http://www.europeantour.com/tournaments/fullreport.sps?id=1145123&iTourNo=200507
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From neil.kaplan at carsdirect.com  Wed Oct 26 17:25:38 2005
From: neil.kaplan at carsdirect.com (Kaplan, Neil)
Date: Wed Oct 26 18:49:01 2005
Subject: [NU Sports] NU Sports News Digest 10/26
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The margin of victory was the largest for Northwestern in a Big Ten game
away from home since in a 41-0 win at Wisconsin on Nov. 6, 1943. 


----What have been other occasions where we have really whupped a B10 team
on the road in recent memory (terrible Illini teams do not count)?
I can remember an Iowa game in the barnett era, but other than that.....

-----Original Message-----
From: Roy Lamberton [mailto:rstetson@capps-assoc.com]
Sent: Wednesday, October 26, 2005 3:16 PM
To: NU Sports List
Subject: [NU Sports] NU Sports News Digest 10/26


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Athletics
FOOTBALL

     One more look back...
     Herschel Henderson Named Bronko Nagurski National Defensive Player of
the
Week
 
http://www.fansonly.com/schools/nw/sports/m-footbl/spec-rel/102505aaa.html

     + Northwestern is Tostitos Fiesta Bowl National Team of the Week
 
http://www.fansonly.com/schools/nw/sports/m-footbl/spec-rel/102405aaa.html

     + Wildcats in tune on road
 
http://chicagosports.chicagotribune.com/sports/college/northwestern/cs-05102
3020
7oct23,1,6847999.story?coll=cs-college-nwestern-print 
     + Nearly purr-fect
 
http://chicagosports.chicagotribune.com/sports/college/northwestern/cs-05102
3021
2oct23,1,5340667.story?coll=cs-college-nwestern-print 
     + 4th-and-15 provided a necessary turning point 
 
http://www.dailynorthwestern.com/vnews/display.v/ART/2005/10/24/435c87f0c510
7?in
_archive=1 
     + Cats notch road knockout
 
http://www.dailynorthwestern.com/vnews/display.v/ART/2005/10/24/435c8a9a8e06
b?in
_archive=1 
     + Cats' defense shows its dominant side
 
http://www.dailynorthwestern.com/vnews/display.v/ART/2005/10/24/435c835228bc
6?in
_archive=1 
     + QB leads team to 1st road victory over ranked opponent in 4 years
 
http://www.dailynorthwestern.com/vnews/display.v/ART/2005/10/24/435c83ff7686
0?in
_archive=1 

     Hey We're ranked!
     Wildcats Move Into AP and USA Today Top 25 Polls
 
http://www.fansonly.com/schools/nw/sports/m-footbl/spec-rel/102305aab.html

     + Wildcats enter BCS standings at No. 21
 
http://chicagosports.chicagotribune.com/sports/college/northwestern/cs-05102
5022
8oct25,1,1600525.story?coll=cs-college-nwestern-print 
     + Wildcats find No. 21 heaven after rough start
 
http://chicagosports.chicagotribune.com/sports/college/northwestern/cs-05102
4013
7oct24,1,420874.story?coll=cs-college-nwestern-print 
     + Confident Wildcats ranked No. 21 in poll
      http://www.suntimes.com/output/campus/cst-spt-cats24.html 

     Back in the Swing of things
     No. 21 Northwestern Hosts No. 25 Michigan in PrimeTime
 
http://www.fansonly.com/schools/nw/sports/m-footbl/spec-rel/102405aag.html

     + Secondary concern diminishing for NU
      http://www.suntimes.com/output/campus/cst-spt-nu25.html 
     + Henderson brings safety to NU defense
 
http://chicagosports.chicagotribune.com/sports/college/cs-051024nu,1,2220101
.sto
ry?coll=cs-college-headlines 
     + Michigan coach Lloyd Carr doesn't want his offense to get too excited
about playing Northwestern's defense
 
http://chicagosports.chicagotribune.com/sports/college/northwestern/cs-05102
6023
5oct26,1,1600525.story?coll=cs-college-nwestern-print 
     + Defensive backfield reloads with veterans
 
http://www.dailynorthwestern.com/vnews/display.v/ART/2005/10/26/435f17f9b456
4 
     + Walker: team can't become
 
http://www.dailynorthwestern.com/vnews/display.v/ART/2005/10/25/435dbe532a3c
7?in
_archive=1 
     + Suddenly, outlook's rosy for Walker, Northwestern
      http://www.dailyherald.com/sports/northwestern.asp?id=110639 
     + Michigan vs. Northwestern
 
http://www.collegefootballnews.com/2005/Columnists/MZ/Week9/PP_Mich_NW.htm&c
id=1
101988682 
     + Big Ten midterm grades posted
 
http://www.hawkcentral.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article%3FAID%3D/20051026/HAWKS0104
/510
260308/1058&cid=1101988682 

     Last day for this one...
     Vote for Demetrius Eaton and his 'Pontiac Game Changing Performance'
 
http://www.fansonly.com/schools/nw/sports/m-footbl/spec-rel/102305aag.html


     Quarterback Leads Northwestern Uprising
 
http://msn.foxsports.com/cfb/teamReport?categoryId=86065&type=StrategyAndPer
sonn
el 
     + Mature Basanez top Cat
      http://www.freep.com/sports/umich/um26e_20051026.htm&cid=1101916450 

     Sports Xchange: Inside Slant
 
http://msn.foxsports.com/cfb/teamReport?categoryId=86065&type=InsideSlant 
     + Notes & Quotes
 
http://msn.foxsports.com/cfb/teamReport?categoryId=86065&type=NotesAndQuotes

     + Strategy and Personnel
 
http://msn.foxsports.com/cfb/teamReport?categoryId=86065&type=StrategyAndPer
sonn
el 
     Monday 2-Deep 10/24
      http://northwestern.scout.com/2/457333.html 

Next Up

     Michigan Wolverines [10/29 Homecoming]
     Paterno, Carr hit win milestones
 
http://www.dailynorthwestern.com/vnews/display.v/ART/2005/10/26/435f15b44049
d 
     + Wolverines end Hawkeyes' home winning streak
 
http://www.dailynorthwestern.com/vnews/display.v/ART/2005/10/24/435c8190978e
1?in
_archive=1 
     + Wolverines' offense on spot against streaking Wildcats
      http://msnbc.msn.com/id/9820831/&cid=1101916450 
     + Michigan defense expects true test
      http://www.detnews.com/2005/um/0510/25/D06-359789.htm 
     + Defense finally earning respect
      http://www.freep.com/sports/umich/um25e_20051025.htm&cid=1101916450 
     + Coach Lloyd Carr Press Conference
      http://www.mgoblue.com/document_display.cfm?document_id=19430 
     + Monday Presser Highlights: Week Nine
      http://michigan.scout.com/2/457356.html 
     + Adams's eyes key in Blue's road win
 
http://www.michigandaily.com/vnews/display.v/ART/2005/10/26/435f109c90d5b 
     + Singer: Other conferences have nothing on the Big Ten
 
http://www.michigandaily.com/vnews/display.v/ART/2005/10/26/435f1117671f7 
     + Carty: U-M's primary strength - its secondary 
 
http://www.mlive.com/wolverines/aanews/football/index.ssf?/base/sports-1/113
0337
758196010.xml&coll=2 
     + Michigan needs offense to deliver against Northwestern
 
http://www.mlive.com/sportsflash/college/index.ssf?/base/sports-14/113019084
3212
860.xml&storylist=bigten 
     + Defense finally earning respect
      http://www.freep.com/sports/umich/um25e_20051025.htm 
     + Michigan grades
      http://www.detnews.com/2005/um/0510/26/D03-358755.htm 

     Sports Xchange on UM: Inside Slant
 
http://msn.foxsports.com/cfb/teamReport?categoryId=86059&type=InsideSlant 
     + Notes and Quotes
 
http://msn.foxsports.com/cfb/teamReport?categoryId=86059&type=NotesAndQuotes

     + Strategy and Personnel
 
http://msn.foxsports.com/cfb/teamReport?categoryId=86059&type=StrategyAndPer
sonn
el 

Future Big 10 Opponents:

     Iowa Hawkeyes [11/5] - Lost to Michigan 
     @ Ohio State Buckeyes [11/12]  Beat Indiana 41-10 
     Illinois Fighting Illini [11/19] 

Miscellaneous Football News:

     Big Ten Weekly Football Release - Oct. 24
 
http://www.fansonly.com/schools/big10/sports/m-footbl/spec-rel/102405aaf.htm
l 

     How's that for offense/defense?
     D-II Central Wash. scores 27 in 79 seconds 
 
http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/rssclick/2005/football/ncaa/10/25/bc.fbc.sc
orin
grecord.ap/index.html?section=si_ncaaf 

Recruiting

     Top 5 Defensive Prospects

     Andrew Phillips New Offer Ends the Journey
      http://scout.scout.com/a.z?s=179&p=9&c=2&cid=457569&nid=1758561&fhn=1 
     John Ferrara Big Blue lands New York prospect
      http://scout.scout.com/a.z?s=179&p=9&c=2&cid=457388&nid=1775482&fhn=1 

BASKETBALL

     ESPN's Michael Wilbon Highlights 2005 Halloween HOOP-La Saturday Oct.
29
 
http://www.fansonly.com/schools/nw/sports/m-baskbl/spec-rel/102005aab.html


     Fast Break Club Tip Off Dinner
      http://northwestern.scout.com/2/457316.html 

FIELD HOCKEY

     NU's offense absent in Big Ten season finale
 
http://www.dailynorthwestern.com/vnews/display.v/ART/2005/10/25/435dbd9fa0be
f?in
_archive=1 

GOLF

     Wildcats Finish Strong, Place Seventh at Mercedes-Benz
      http://nusports.collegesports.com/sports/w-golf/recaps/102305aaa.html 

LACROSSE

     Former Wildcat McMahon Named Head Coach at Bentley
 
http://nusports.collegesports.com/sports/w-lacros/spec-rel/101505aaa.html 

     Northwestern Releases 2005 Fall Schedule
 
http://nusports.collegesports.com/sports/w-lacros/spec-rel/101205aaa.html 

SOCCER

     Men
     Northwestern Ties Tigers, 1-1
     + Wildcats go undefeated on both coasts to stay in contention for NCAA
berth

     Women
     Jones Named Big Ten Defensive Player of the Week
 
http://www.fansonly.com/schools/nw/sports/w-soccer/spec-rel/102405aaa.html

     + Penn State and Northwestern Honored This Week
 
http://www.fansonly.com/schools/big10/sports/w-soccer/spec-rel/102405aab.htm
l 

     Northwestern Falls to Loyola, 1-0
 
http://nusports.collegesports.com/sports/w-soccer/recaps/102305aaa.html 
     NU captures overtime win to sustain hope for Big Tens
 
http://www.dailynorthwestern.com/vnews/display.v/ART/2005/10/25/435dc0cb9989
b?in
_archive=1 

SWIMMING

     Matt Grevers Named to U.S. World Short Course Championships Squad
 
http://www.fansonly.com/schools/nw/sports/m-swim/spec-rel/102505aab.html 

TENNIS

     Women [They have another tope #1 and 2 - again]
     Alexis Prousis Wins 2005 ITA Midwest Regional Singles Crown
 
http://www.fansonly.com/schools/nw/sports/w-tennis/recaps/102505aab.html 

     Cristelle Grier and Alexis Prousis Capture Doubles Title at 2005 ITA
Midwest Regional Championships
 
http://www.fansonly.com/schools/nw/sports/w-tennis/spec-rel/102405aab.html

     + Cristelle Grier and Alexis Prousis Roll Into Doubles Final at the
2005
ITA Midwest Regional Championships
 
http://nusports.collegesports.com/sports/w-tennis/recaps/102405aab.html 
     + Pair of Wildcats dominate tourney
 
http://www.dailynorthwestern.com/vnews/display.v/ART/2005/10/26/435f19c989f2
9 

     Men
     Wildcats Conclude Play at 2005 ITA Regional Championships
 
http://nusports.collegesports.com/sports/m-tennis/recaps/102305aac.html 

VOLLEYBALL

     Spartans spoil Cats' sweep of Michigan in a 'heartbreaker' 
 
http://www.dailynorthwestern.com/vnews/display.v/ART/2005/10/25/435dbf95f1e3
4?in
_archive=1 

WRESTLING

     Squad poised to continue success
 
http://www.dailynorthwestern.com/vnews/display.v/ART/2005/10/26/435f1aa8627c
3 

MISCELLANY

     Naw, its not about the money...yeah, right
     Wheeler's dad portrayed as a deadbeat
 
http://chicagosports.chicagotribune.com/sports/college/cs-051025nuwheeler,1,
3989
870.story?coll=cs-college-headlines 
     + Judge to decide how to split $16 mil. in NU player's death
 
http://www.suntimes.com/output/news/cst-nws-rashidi26.html&cid=1101978473 
     Mara, 'moral conscience' of NFL, dead after 80 years with Giants
      http://www.dailysouthtown.com/southtown/dssports/pro/262sd3.htm 

     Here we go again!
     Air Force examining coach's comments on race
      http://msn.foxsports.com/cfb/story/5025942?CMP=OTC-K9B140813162&ATT=24

     + DeBerry: AFA football lacks minority athletes 
 
http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/rssclick/2005/football/ncaa/10/26/bc.fbc.ai
rfor
ce.coachco.ap/index.html?section=si_ncaaf 

ALUMNI

     Joe Girardi: Mailbag: What impact will Girardi have?
 
http://florida.marlins.mlb.com/NASApp/mlb/news/article.jsp?ymd=20051022&cont
ent_
id=1256845&vkey=news_fla&fext=.jsp&c_id=fla 

     PGA: [Links on Player's Name is their live scorecard]
     Luke Donald - The Volvo Masters Andalucia 
     http://www.sponsorship.volvo.com/vma2004/ 

     Order of Merit Race Reaches Spectacular Climax at Valderrama
 
http://www.europeantour.com/tournaments/fullreport.sps?id=1145123&iTourNo=20
0507
6 

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From sjtruog at yahoo.com  Wed Oct 26 21:30:29 2005
From: sjtruog at yahoo.com (SjT (Stephen J. Truog))
Date: Wed Oct 26 21:31:38 2005
Subject: [NU Sports] Thundersticks (fwd)
In-Reply-To: <200510262038.j9QKc52q027868@romaine.tssi.com>
Message-ID: <20051027023029.9253.qmail@web52901.mail.yahoo.com>

> > I know this all too well from experience. The only
> thing more annoying than the
> > general concept of thundersticks, is standing in
> the NUMBalum section at
> > Homecoming next to Stephen Truog when he has a
> pair of them. 

Har-de-har har. Remember that that was the year of the
Rally Monkey. I LOVED the thundersticks!:) Would they
get old every game? Yes. But for special occasions?
COOL!!!

> It could be worse, Jim, you could be BEHIND Stephen
> Truog.  Then you wouldn't
> be able to hear OR see.  :-)

Hey - I've mello-ed in my old age and I do try and sit
down most of the game so the folks behind me can see.
But I'll be darned if I'll sit on third down this game
(plus I'll be in the NUMBalum section where it's
EXPECTED that you stand).

I dunno - maybe it's a student/NUMB mentality still
that you stand all game and make as much noise as
possible. And I'll take a thunderstick over a trumpet
any day!:)

> distraction was worse than the sound, IMHO.  But I'd
> still take them over
> the wave, because my wife once suffered a mild

AMEN! I **HATE** the wave. It's basically 70,000
people with ADD who say they're bored and want to do
something stupid. Watch the friggin' game and cheer!

As for other schools and noisemakers ... I'll add to
the list the cowbells at Mississippi State, the
airhorns at the old Jungle in Cincinnati.

And remember - at least you're outdoors at Ryan Field.
When Coach Carmody gets the Cats into the NCAAs,
you'll have 8,000+ purple frenzied fans in Welsh-Ryan
making it a box that REALLY rocks!

>On the off chance that thundersticks are distributed
>on Saturday, I hearby designate the Michigan game as
>"Thumbtack Night at Dyche".

Fine with me - I've still got a bounty out for anyone
who can throw a dart and let the air out of that
STUPID, INSUFFERABLE "Air Willie" bobbledoll.

Now **THAT** is a stupid, tacky and unnecessary extra
to the college game.

WEAR PURPLE!!!
MAKE NOISE!!!
GO CATS!!!
-SjT

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From sjtruog at yahoo.com  Wed Oct 26 23:49:45 2005
From: sjtruog at yahoo.com (SjT (Stephen J. Truog))
Date: Wed Oct 26 23:50:54 2005
Subject: [NU Sports] So ...
Message-ID: <20051027044945.99992.qmail@web52903.mail.yahoo.com>

1985 - Bears win the Super Bowl
1995 - Purple heads to Pasadena
2005 - Sox win the World Series

Maybe in 2015, the Cubbies will finally make it.:)

A Game 6 Saturday night might have been nice for
Chicago sports fans, but I'm glad the Sox swept. Now
they can celebrate, be giddy and all ... and when it
comes down to Saturday night, all of Chicago and the
nation can turn on ESPN for the big game.

Hopefully we can make it a great week for Chicago and
get the big win that could add a little more to that
2005 above, like another Big Ten title!:)

As for the Sox fans -- having worked with many
die-hards during my days in NW Indiana -- I'm happy
for you and congrats - enjoy it.

I'm also happy that baseball is over, because not only
does that mean The Simpsons and Fox Sunday are back:),
but it gets baseball out of the way for America's TRUE
sport, FOOTBALL! And we got a whopper of a game on
deck for Saturday night!

BTW - I also saw on the Web site about the Halloween
HOOP-la promotion. Nice to see NU getting some kind of
"Midnight Madness"-esque thing going to support our
cagers ... and doing it in the afternoon before the
big night game was also a good idea. Also kudos to
Michael Wilbon for coming back to emcee the event.
Some of our alums like to tote out the purple when
it's fashionable (I'm looking at you, Musburger!:) ),
but I saw Wilbon at the game in Tempe and he was just
quietly out there supporting the Cats -- no fanfare,
just a fan.

WEAR PURPLE!!!
MAKE NOISE!!!
GO CATS!!!
-SjT

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From rstetson at capps-assoc.com  Thu Oct 27 09:16:34 2005
From: rstetson at capps-assoc.com (Roy Lamberton)
Date: Thu Oct 27 09:16:52 2005
Subject: [NU Sports] NU Sports News Digest 10/27
Message-ID: <002001c5db01$09810db0$6500a8c0@DAVIDXP>

www.PurpleWildcats.com
for Purple Reign
& the NU Sports List

If you are a Red Sox fan who also rooted for the White Sox, are you now a
bi-soxual?

The almost impossible happens, a Chicago team wins the World Series, but...this
weekend it will be an NU town with Michigan at Northwestern Homecoming. Alumni
updates, plus a few notes from Soccer, 
Lacrosse, Basketball and Swimming..

                                                                  All the News
that Fits We Link
                                                                      Your Index
to News about
                                                                    Northwestern
University Athletics

FOOTBALL

     Hoping against hype: Wildcats' pub worries Walker
      http://www.suntimes.com/output/campus/cst-spt-crep27.html 
     + Wildcats deal with national attention
      http://www.dailyherald.com/sports/northwestern.asp?id=111338 
     + Wildcat gridders break into national rankings
 
http://www.pioneerlocal.com/cgi-bin/ppo-story/sports/current/ev/10-27-05-723786.
html 
     + Basanez's passing has NU making a run
 
http://www.mcall.com/sports/college/all-fbcbigtenoct27,0,4670556.story?coll=all-
sports-hed 
     + Basanez, Sutton fuel explosive Northwestern offense to top of Big Ten
 
http://www.dailyorange.com/media/paper522/news/2005/10/27/Sports/National.Notebo
ok.Basanez.Sutton.Fuel.Explosive.Northwestern.Offense.To.Top.Of-1035571.shtml 
     + Randy Walker may have helped do away with the full-time role of the
fullback
 
http://www.zwire.com/site/news.cfm?newsid=15461872&BRD=2185&PAG=461&dept_id=4160
49&rfi=6 
     + Big 10 underdogs bite back
      http://www.covers.com/articles/articles.aspx?theArt=59328&tid=30&t=1 
     + Teleconference: October 25
      http://web.servicebureau.net/conf/meta?i=1112618015&c=16607&m=was&u=/w.xsl

     + Quarterback adds to stature
      http://www.detnews.com/2005/um/0510/27/D01-363242.htm 

     Previews/Reflections/Commentaries
     + Random Thoughts: On The NU Defense
 
http://sports.yahoo.com/ncaaf/news;_ylt=AlTmV7eeUzDfJrQWjpIz5UC81LYF?slug=citade
l-2_457829_179&prov=citadel&type=story 
     + Waterboy: the victory over MSU.
      http://hailtopurple.com/waterboy 
     + JHodges: Preview: NU vs. Michigan on Homecoming
      http://jhodges.org/archives/2005/10/24/70/ 
     + GoUPurple: a very big game.
      http://hailtopurple.com/cats5a30h.html 
     + Lowes Line prediction for the game with Michigan.
      http://hailtopurple.com/features/lowesline5j26.html 

     Fan Reminders For Saturday's Homecoming Game vs. Michigan
      http://www.fansonly.com/schools/nw/sports/m-footbl/spec-rel/102605aab.html


Next Up

     Michigan Wolverines [10/29 Homecoming]
     Michigan cautioned on `misleading' NU
 
http://chicagosports.chicagotribune.com/sports/college/cs-0510260235oct26,1,3407
784.story?coll=cs-college-headlines 
     $ MT: The Offense at Game Nine
      http://michigan.scout.com/2/458116.html 
     $ Mike Taylor: Crediting Michigan's Defense
      http://michigan.scout.com/2/457818.html 
     + Thompson shines in 'M' victory
      http://www.michigandaily.com/vnews/display.v/ART/2005/10/27/436064939544a 
     + Edelson: Long's importance tough to overstate
      http://www.michigandaily.com/vnews/display.v/ART/2005/10/27/4360651fe0abd 
     + Andrews has speedy start to 'M' career
      http://www.michigandaily.com/vnews/display.v/ART/2005/10/27/436069198e608 
     + GETTING PERSONAL WITH ... U-M's Darnell Hood
      http://www.freep.com/sports/umich/um27e_20051027.htm 
     + Return of Long is huge for U-M
      http://www.detnews.com/2005/um/0510/27/D03-362372.htm 

Future Big 10 Opponents:

     Iowa Hawkeyes [11/5] - Lost to Michigan
     @ Ohio State Buckeyes [11/12]  Beat Indiana 41-10
     Illinois Fighting Illini [11/19]

Miscellaneous Football News:

     Big Ten title still up for grabs
 
http://www.mlive.com/sportsflash/college/index.ssf?/base/sports-8/11303624471701
90.xml&storylist=bigten 
     Plenty of reasons for Purdue collapse
 
http://chicagosports.chicagotribune.com/sports/college/cs-0510260232oct26,1,2228
133.story?coll=cs-college-headlines 
     + Illini, Purdue need more than shovels
 
http://nwitimes.com/articles/2005/10/27/columnists/al_hamnik/965fa78c8018707a862
570a6000e1491.txt 

     Air Force reprimands DeBerry for comments 
 
http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/rssclick/2005/football/ncaa/10/26/bc.fbc.airfor
ce.coachco.ap/index.html?section=si_ncaaf 

Recruiting

     He's playing D-End too
     Brendan Mitchell: Reserve football extends win record
      http://www.wra.net/newsevents/release.cfm?article=793 
     + WRA football stretches record to 6-0 
     http://www.wra.net/newsevents/release.cfm?article=785 

     Stefan Demos Check out the FG's
 
http://www.azcentral.com/sports/preps/prep_stats.php?gameID=49739&schoolID=166&s
portID=1 

     Brad Philllips FR on point for home playoff game
      http://www.gatewaynewspapers.com/murrysvillestar/53835/ 

CROSS COUNTRY

     Curbing the injury bug
 
http://www.dailynorthwestern.com/vnews/display.v/ART/2005/10/27/43608210991c7 

BASKETBALL

     Wilbon to emcee Halloween HOOP-la
 
http://www.pioneerlocal.com/cgi-bin/ppo-story/sports/current/ev/10-27-05-722205.
html 

     Sports XChange: Inside Slant
      http://msn.foxsports.com/cbk/teamReport?categoryId=71639&type=InsideSlant 
     + Notes & Quotes
 
http://msn.foxsports.com/cbk/teamReport?categoryId=71639&type=NotesAndQuotes 
     + Strategy and Personnel
 
http://msn.foxsports.com/cbk/teamReport?categoryId=71639&type=StrategyAndPersonn
el 

     Future Opponents:
     Delay may hurt DSU in review by NCAA
 
http://www.delawareonline.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20051027/SPORTS08/51027
0359/1002/SPORTS 

LACROSSE

     From the Tewaaraton Award Foundation
     Free maax and West Coast Lacrosse Gear
      http://www.tewaaraton.com/cgi-data/news/files/33.shtml 

SOCCER

     Men - Cats pick up a soccer player
     O'Neill's decision to commit to Northwestern comes from the gut
 
http://www.delawareonline.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20051025/SPORTS1406/510
250329/-1/HOMES 

     Women
     'Cats Look to Punch Big Ten Tournament Ticket With Win Over Wisconsin
      http://www.fansonly.com/schools/nw/sports/w-soccer/spec-rel/102605aaa.html


SWIMMING

     Men
     Whirlwind weekend results in Cats jumping to quick starts
 
http://www.dailynorthwestern.com/vnews/display.v/ART/2005/10/27/436084724eb7d 

MISCELLANY

     Crowley earns World Cup berth
 
http://www.pioneerlocal.com/cgi-bin/ppo-story/sports/current/ev/10-27-05-725096.
html 
     Guillen: Chicago still a Cubs town
 
http://nwitimes.com/articles/2005/10/26/sports/top_sports/10b42b9b6353d947862570
a600090ca5.txt 
     Businesses sought for 'Evanstonopoly' game
 
http://www.pioneerlocal.com/cgi-bin/ppo-story/localnews/current/ev/10-27-05-6455
15.html 


ALUMNI

     Luis Castillo: Luis Castillo Q&A
      http://www.chargers.com/news/headline_detail.cfm?news_key=2385 

     PGA: [Links on Player's Name is their live scorecard]
     Luke Donald -
 
http://scores.europeantour.com/scorecard.sps?iTourNo=2005076&iPlayerNo=30357&iTo
urID=1 
     In the Lead, tied for 1st at -4 at The Volvo Masters Andalucia
      http://www.sponsorship.volvo.com/vma2004/ 
     +  Live: Volvo Masters
      http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/golf/4381316.stm 

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From spiritu at northwestern.edu  Thu Oct 27 12:01:35 2005
From: spiritu at northwestern.edu (Jonathan Michael Hawkins)
Date: Thu Oct 27 12:02:44 2005
Subject: [NU Sports] PIGSKIN PICKS - Standings
In-Reply-To: <102620052012.23643.435FE33F000F100A00005C5B22070016419D0A04040A969C@comcast.net>
References: <102620052012.23643.435FE33F000F100A00005C5B22070016419D0A04040A969C@comcast.net>
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> Wow -- couldn't agree more. No offense to the previous poster, but it 
> sounds like he wants to attend a chamber music concert, not a game.

Scott--

I'm sure if you knew me or Mr. Leonard you'd understand how... amusing 
your "sounds like" assertion is.

> Fans who constantly "shhh!" and yell "sit down!" on a big play should 
> really reconsider their entertainment choices.

So true.  I am opposed to fans who don't stand up on big third downs, bury 
their hands in their pockets the whole game, and generally don't seem to 
be having much fun at the game.  Also anyone who doesn't sing the fight 
song whenever it's being played (but that one's just my own personal pet 
peeve).  I consider it my personal quest to make sure that at least 
somebody outside the band knows the lyrics to the "Rise Northwestern" and 
"Push on Northwestern" songs.  That doesn't mean we shouldn't all hate 
Thunderstix. ;-)

Ultimately, though, this isn't about Thunderstix (unfortunately a native 
product of Lake Villa, IL), it's about cheering your donkey off this 
weekend, wherever you might be.

Wedding reception?  Follow the game on your phone (or just ditch out - you 
didn't want to talk to that ugly bridesmaid/groomsman anyway)!

Complicated surgical procedure?  Those scrubs had better be purple!

In a bar full of Michigan fans?  I hope that's why the aforementioned NU 
fan is doing the complicated surgical procedure! ;-)

Go 'Cats, sweep the State of Michigan!

Jonathan

From thiegs at umn.edu  Thu Oct 27 12:37:46 2005
From: thiegs at umn.edu (Joe Thiegs)
Date: Thu Oct 27 12:41:37 2005
Subject: [NU Sports] PIGSKIN PICKS - Standings
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.64.0510271145590.26001@localhost>
Message-ID: <001001c5db1d$251fc220$fb326580@jthiegs2003>

> I consider it my personal quest to make sure that at least 
> somebody outside the band knows the lyrics to the "Rise Northwestern" and 
> "Push on Northwestern" songs.  That doesn't mean we shouldn't all hate 
> Thunderstix. ;-)

Well, my three-year-old son sings "Rise Northwestern" (main part of "Push
On") and other NU songs--and Minnesota songs--all the time!  As I think I
might have mentioned here before at some point, he goes to sleep every night
listening to the "Hail to Purple" NUMB retrospective CD.  Coincidentally,
just this morning as I was ironing my shirt before going to work, he asked
(presumably because he remembered that we are going to the Minnesota/tOSU
game on Saturday morning):  "So when the Gophers tackle somebody or have a
good run or get a touchdown, do we sing 'Rise, Northwestern'?"  I laughed
and said, "Well, usually when the Gophers make a good play we sing the
'Minnesota Rouser.'  When Northwestern makes a good play, we sing 'Rise,
Northwestern' or 'Go U Northwestern.'"  He responded, "Oh. But when the
Gophers make a good play, can I still sing 'Rise, Northwestern'?  Me
(laughing again):  "Sure."

> Wedding reception?  Follow the game on your phone (or just ditch out - you

> didn't want to talk to that ugly bridesmaid/groomsman anyway)!

Actually, I am going to be at a wedding reception during the game.
Arrggghhh!!  If it was on broadcast television I would take my little
mini-LCD TV but, alas, I think I'm going to have to resort to taping the
game and trying to avoid all media until I see it.  Uh-oh, wait--that may be
impossible, as we will be staying at my parents' place Saturday night after
the wedding, and they don't have cable!  But wait again--my brother lives
only a few minutes from my parents, and I bet I can have him record the game
and I can pick up the tape on the way back from the wedding.  I knew I'd
think of something.  (I'm sure you all loved reading through my
stream-of-consciousness problem solving.  Sorry.)  :)

-Joe


From jonathanwhodges at gmail.com  Thu Oct 27 14:16:09 2005
From: jonathanwhodges at gmail.com (Jonathan Hodges)
Date: Thu Oct 27 14:17:13 2005
Subject: [NU Sports] PIGSKIN PICKS - Standings
In-Reply-To: <001001c5db1d$251fc220$fb326580@jthiegs2003>
References: <Pine.LNX.4.64.0510271145590.26001@localhost>
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> listening to the "Hail to Purple" NUMB retrospective CD

Speaking of the NUMB CD, I don't know if the word is out yet, but NUMB
has a recording session scheduled this season (actually, the day of
the OSU game).  The band sounds really good this year from what I've
heard in the stands and is the biggest it's been since 2000 in terms
of number of members (which helps the sound).  Hopefully they'll have
a CD out with some new recordings to add to the retrospective CD that
came out last year (the last newly recorded NUMB CD was made during
the 1994 season).

It's nice that a few people know the words to the other NU spirit
songs.  Another entertaining song is the "Wildcat Song," and the
lyrics are posted on the HailtoPurple website, I believe.

Go 'Cats!!!
Jonathan


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From NEONRye at aol.com  Thu Oct 27 20:14:31 2005
From: NEONRye at aol.com (NEONRye@aol.com)
Date: Thu Oct 27 20:18:31 2005
Subject: [NU Sports] Some Thoughts on Saturday Night's Game
Message-ID: <5b.74f23f0b.3092d577@aol.com>

I was pondering the game vs. Mich. and have decided that this is perhaps  the 
defining moment of the Randy Walker Era (unless someone counters with  
Rashidi Wheeler's death).   The NU Football program is at a true fork  in the 
road--one way (a good, solid win over the Wolves in the national  spotlight and with 
a bowl game and continued presence in the National Rankings  as the "cookies" 
if we prevail) leads to a major boost in recruiting, as young  HS studs (with 
good SAT's, of course) see how Baz and Tyrell and our other  standouts are 
thriving in the NU "System".  The other way is a loss,  especially a bad loss.  
It won't ruin our season or doom us to mediocrity  forever, but it will be a 
setback nonetheless and will reinforce the impression  that most fans have that 
we are an academic institution that can't  really compete with the big boys.  
Yes, I know we beat tOSU last year and  have had other dramatic wins.  But we 
never had a QB who might make the  "Final 5" for the Heisman, nor have we had 
a RB who might actually win the  trophy.  They give us validation and 
visibility.  Hence, this is the  moment for a "Perfect Storm" (actually, if Stephen 
is right, a "Purple  Blizzard") of NU Football dominance.  Seize the moment, 
'Cats.  Claw  the Wolves and the glory is yours!
 
Oh, how I wish I could be there.....
 
Paul Levinson (From NY, of course)
 
P.S.:  To our friends and fellow alums in the "Windy City", we loved  the Sox 
win from here.
From thehaze at earthlink.net  Thu Oct 27 20:55:21 2005
From: thehaze at earthlink.net (Jim Bendat)
Date: Thu Oct 27 20:59:13 2005
Subject: [NU Sports] PIGSKIN PICKS - Standings
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Beautiful -- my latest suggestion for taking the Purple with you 
wherever you are on game day is to get XM radio.  They carry the Big 
Ten, and you can be walking down the street anywhere in this country, 
listening to XM's portable radio (known as a MyFi)  -- and you can get 
better reception of the game than you could if you were in Evanston or 
Chicago!  -- Jim B.

>
> Ultimately, though, this isn't about Thunderstix (unfortunately a 
> native product of Lake Villa, IL), it's about cheering your donkey off 
> this weekend, wherever you might be.
>
> Wedding reception?  Follow the game on your phone (or just ditch out - 
> you didn't want to talk to that ugly bridesmaid/groomsman anyway)!
>
> Complicated surgical procedure?  Those scrubs had better be purple!
>
> In a bar full of Michigan fans?  I hope that's why the aforementioned 
> NU fan is doing the complicated surgical procedure! ;-)
>
> Go 'Cats, sweep the State of Michigan!
>
> Jonathan
>



From DPENDERG at aol.com  Fri Oct 28 07:09:52 2005
From: DPENDERG at aol.com (DPENDERG@aol.com)
Date: Fri Oct 28 07:22:34 2005
Subject: [NU Sports] Some Thoughts on Saturday Night's Game
Message-ID: <9f.6adc7b43.30936f10@aol.com>

I agree completely that this will be a (if not the) defining moment for the  
Walker program: to sustained national status or just another Big Ten team.   
And, it will be interesting if the Cats can perform well after all of the  
post-MSU hype. That 117th-ranked defense still bothers me. I do not think  we'll 
score 40+ points against the UM defense, so our D will have to  play its best 
game of the season to win.   
From rstetson at capps-assoc.com  Fri Oct 28 11:31:33 2005
From: rstetson at capps-assoc.com (Roy Lamberton)
Date: Fri Oct 28 11:31:56 2005
Subject: [NU Sports] NU Sports News Digest 10/28
Message-ID: <003001c5dbdd$0f617df0$6500a8c0@DAVIDXP>

www.PurpleWildcats.com
for Purple Reign
& the NU Sports List

Pre PurpleOut Edition

Lots more Football, but there's a full weekend of NU Sports activity on in
Evanston [and elsewhere]  and Homecoming 
gets really rolling. There's also some alumni info too.


                                 All the News that Fits We Link
                                    Your Index to News about
                                  Northwestern University Athletics

FOOTBALL

     SjT and da Coach Delare a "Purple Out"
      http://northwestern.scout.com/2/458364.html 
     Josh Turel Scouts the Northwestern Offense
      http://michigan.scout.com/2/458697.html 
     Up from the depths
 
http://www.dailynorthwestern.com/vnews/display.v/ART/2005/10/28/4361dba7aceae 
     Wildcats deal with national attention
      http://www.dailyherald.com/sports/northwestern.asp?id=111338 
     Pregame Intel: Michigan Wolverines
      http://northwestern.scout.com/2/458804.html 
     Northwestern piles up the points and accolades
      http://www.startribune.com/stories/503/5693920.html 

     talking to Gary B here...
     Brooks: Northwestern Charts new Direction
 
http://rockymountainnews.com/drmn/sports_columnists/article/0,1299,DRMN_83_41924
22,00.html 
     Surging Northwestern set for showdown vs. Michigan
 
http://www.usatoday.com/sports/college/football/bigten/2005-10-27-northwestern_x
.htm?csp=34 

     Player Stories:
     Nick Roach: Roach's play spurs Wildcats' defense
 
http://chicagosports.chicagotribune.com/sports/college/cs-0510270123oct27,1,2359
206.story?coll=cs-college-headlines 

     Brett Basanez: Cats QB ready for close-up
 
http://chicagosports.chicagotribune.com/sports/college/cs-051027nu,1,2809928.sto
ry?coll=cs-college-headlines 
     + Call him the Golden Brett
      http://www.suntimes.com/output/campus/cst-spt-nu28.html 
     + Wildcat Fans Can Cast a Heisman Vote for Brett Basanez
      http://www.fansonly.com/schools/nw/sports/m-footbl/spec-rel/102705aab.html

     + Quarterback adds to stature
      http://www.detnews.com/2005/um/0510/28/D01-363242.htm 

     This is where you vote - you can cast one vote per week
      http://www.voteforheisman.com/index.php 

     Frederic Tarver: From Germany to Evanston, a senior's last hurrah
 
http://www.dailynorthwestern.com/vnews/display.v/ART/2005/10/28/4361d5bd672f6 

     Herschel Henderson: Senior surviving ?rollercoaster? ride
 
http://www.dailynorthwestern.com/vnews/display.v/ART/2005/10/28/4361dade26fa2 

     Tyrell Sutton: Short Northwestern tailback proves critics wrong
 
http://www.mlive.com/wolverines/aanews/football/index.ssf?/base/sports-1/1130510
550250180.xml&coll=2 

Next Up

     Michigan Wolverines
     Final road test on tap for Varsity
      http://www.michigandaily.com/vnews/display.v/ART/2005/10/28/4361b2287d3e3 
     + Procrastination Station
      http://www.michigandaily.com/vnews/display.v/ART/2005/10/28/4361b82078b74 
     + Despite dad's protests, Riley fine with U-M role
      http://www.freep.com/sports/umich/um28e_20051028.htm 
     + U-M renews Big Ten hopes
      http://www.detnews.com/2005/um/0510/28/G01-364364.htm 
     + Wojnowski: Northwestern is still a pest
      http://www.detnews.com/2005/um/0510/28/G01-364378.htm 

Future Big 10 Opponents:

     Iowa Hawkeyes [11/5] -
     @ Ohio State Buckeyes [11/12]  41-10
     Illinois Fighting Illini [11/19]
     Fighting Illini football stung by sanctions
 
http://chicagosports.chicagotribune.com/sports/college/cs-051027illini,1,7286090
.story?coll=cs-college-headlines 
     + Complete NCAA report on Illinois' violation
 
http://chicagosports.chicagotribune.com/sports/college/cs-051027illinoisncaarepo
rt,1,4369465.storylink?coll=cs-college-headlines 
     + Booster incident lands Illini on probation
      http://www.suntimes.com/output/campus/cst-spt-ill28.html 
     + Turner - It wasn't me
      http://www.dailysouthtown.com/southtown/dssports/pro/281sd5.htm 

Miscellaneous Football News:

     4th-and-long in Big Ten
 
http://chicagosports.chicagotribune.com/sports/college/cs-051027rowcenter,1,6480
250.story?coll=cs-college-headlines 
     Momentum swings both ways
 
http://www.dailynorthwestern.com/vnews/display.v/ART/2005/10/28/4361d499c3ed8 

Recruiting

     Big Ten Football Commitments
      http://story.scout.com/a.z?s=179&p=2&c=458473 
     Anterio Jackson Illinois commit gives an update
      http://scout.scout.com/a.z?s=179&p=9&c=2&cid=457938&nid=2056529&fhn=1 
     Alex Loukas Stanford's Turn Coming
      http://scout.scout.com/a.z?s=179&p=9&c=2&cid=457987&nid=1758488&fhn=1 
     Brad Phillips Fifth-seeded Panthers draw Ambridge
      http://www.gatewaynewspapers.com/murrysvillestar/54182/ 
     Roundball "officials"
     On Campus: Oct. 28 Weekend Visitors
      http://story.scout.com/a.z?s=179&p=2&c=458736 

BASKETBALL

     ESPN's Michael Wilbon Highlights 2005 Halloween HOOP-La Saturday Oct. 29
      http://nusports.collegesports.com/sports/m-baskbl/spec-rel/102005aab.html 

CROSS COUNTRY

     Wildcats Head To Big Ten Championships
      http://www.fansonly.com/schools/nw/sports/w-xc/spec-rel/102705aaa.html 
     + Conference championships present tough competition
 
http://www.dailynorthwestern.com/vnews/display.v/ART/2005/10/28/4361c7ff2fe5d 

FENCING

     En guarde, touch?
 
http://www.dailynorthwestern.com/vnews/display.v/ART/2005/10/28/4361c990c4136 

FIELD HOCKEY

     Wildcats to Play Nation's Two Top-Ranked Teams in Final Regular-Season
Weekend
      http://www.fansonly.com/schools/nw/sports/w-fieldh/spec-rel/102705aad.html


LACROSSE

     Former Wildcat McMahon Named Head Coach at Bentley
      http://nusports.collegesports.com/sports/w-lacros/spec-rel/101505aaa.html 

SOCCER

     Men
     Wildcats Resume Play at Ohio State
      http://www.fansonly.com/schools/nw/sports/m-soccer/spec-rel/102805aab.html

     + Another road trip provides NU chance to solidify tourney bid
 
http://www.dailynorthwestern.com/vnews/display.v/ART/2005/10/28/4361c2a9506f7 

     Women
     Final conference contest holds last slot in Big Tens
 
http://www.dailynorthwestern.com/vnews/display.v/ART/2005/10/28/4361c98592948 

SWIMMING

     Men
     Coach forced to cut walk-on
 
http://www.dailynorthwestern.com/vnews/display.v/ART/2005/10/28/4361c78f8370e 

VOLLEYBALL

     NU still hopeful about 2nd-half chances
 
http://www.dailynorthwestern.com/vnews/display.v/ART/2005/10/28/4361c8383a313 

WRESTLING

     Tim Cysewski Invited to Coach at 2005 NWCA All-Star Classic
      http://www.fansonly.com/schools/nw/sports/m-wrestl/spec-rel/102705aad.html


     Takedown Wrestling Radio Live From the Ken Kraft Wrestling Center
      http://www.fansonly.com/schools/nw/sports/m-wrestl/spec-rel/102705aac.html


MISCELLANY

     NCAA proposes academic incentive program
 
http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/rssclick/2005/basketball/ncaa/10/27/ncaa.academ
ic.reform.ap/index.html?section=si_ncaaf 


ALUMNI

     Darren Rovell: Gatorade And ESPN Blur Blogging, Reporting
 
http://www.webpronews.com/topnews/topnews/wpn-60-20051024GatoradeAndESPNBlurBlog
gingReporting.html 
     + Brand Blogs Capture the Attention of Some Companies
      http://www.nytimes.com/2005/10/24/technology/24blog.html?8dpc 

     PGA: [Links on Player's Name is their live scorecard]
     Luke Donald - 
 
http://scores.europeantour.com/scorecard.sps?iTourNo=2005076&iPlayerNo=30357&iTo
urID=1 
     At -3, Tied for 3rd at The Volvo Masters Andalucia
      http://www.sponsorship.volvo.com/vma2004/ 
     + Montgomerie and Poulter Take Charge at Valderrama
 
http://www.europeantour.com/tournaments/fullreport.sps?iTourno=2005076&id=114522
0&iTourID=1 
     + First Round Scores
 
http://www.europeantour.com/Tournaments/roundscores.sps?iRound=1&iTourNo=2005076

     + Day One Video Highlights
      http://www.europeantour.com/mediaworld/get_asset.sps?iImageID=1145214 

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From pcw at warnerpatents.com  Fri Oct 28 14:39:57 2005
From: pcw at warnerpatents.com (Peter C. Warner)
Date: Fri Oct 28 14:41:18 2005
Subject: [NU Sports] Business Week Review of HDTVs
Message-ID: <200510281941.j9SJfHbl031877@gw.tssi.com>

In the 11/7/05 Business Week, p. 76, there is an article reviewing HDTVs.
It starts off talking about memorable TV moments - J.R. getting shot, the
space shuttle Challenger exploding.  For the author, NU-alum Cliff Edwards,
it was a more recent one:  watching his alma mater beat then-undefeated UW
on Oct. 8 on ESPN HD.  


From cherron604 at aol.com  Fri Oct 28 17:46:01 2005
From: cherron604 at aol.com (cherron604@aol.com)
Date: Fri Oct 28 17:47:32 2005
Subject: [NU Sports] PIGSKIN PICKS - Standings
In-Reply-To: <43618509.4070301@earthlink.net>
References: <102620052012.23643.435FE33F000F100A00005C5B22070016419D0A04040A969C@comcast.net>	<Pine.LNX.4.64.0510271145590.26001@localhost>
	<43618509.4070301@earthlink.net>
Message-ID: <8C7AA2881A2ACE6-13D0-EF91@FWM-R31.sysops.aol.com>

I concur - xm is great, in the car especially - big ten audio feeds, also pac-10 and ACC (using the local announcers).
 
Was also nice hearing the MLB local feeds (California, Boston, Houston) during the post-season.
 
Chuck Herron  Tech 85
 
-----Original Message-----
From: Jim Bendat <thehaze@earthlink.net>
To: nwu-sports@tssi.com
Sent: Thu, 27 Oct 2005 18:55:21 -0700
Subject: Re: [NU Sports] PIGSKIN PICKS - Standings


Beautiful -- my latest suggestion for taking the Purple with you wherever you are on game day is to get XM radio. They carry the Big Ten, and you can be walking down the street anywhere in this country, listening to XM's portable radio (known as a MyFi) -- and you can get better reception of the game than you could if you were in Evanston or Chicago! -- Jim B. 
 
> 
> Ultimately, though, this isn't about Thunderstix (unfortunately a > native product of Lake Villa, IL), it's about cheering your donkey off > this weekend, wherever you might be. 
> 
> Wedding reception? Follow the game on your phone (or just ditch out - > you didn't want to talk to that ugly bridesmaid/groomsman anyway)! 
> 
> Complicated surgical procedure? Those scrubs had better be purple! 
> 
> In a bar full of Michigan fans? I hope that's why the aforementioned > NU fan is doing the complicated surgical procedure! ;-) 
> 
> Go 'Cats, sweep the State of Michigan! 
> 
> Jonathan 
> 
 
 
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From cherron604 at aol.com  Fri Oct 28 18:19:08 2005
From: cherron604 at aol.com (cherron604@aol.com)
Date: Fri Oct 28 18:23:05 2005
Subject: [NU Sports] Some Thoughts on Saturday Night's Game
In-Reply-To: <5b.74f23f0b.3092d577@aol.com>
References: <5b.74f23f0b.3092d577@aol.com>
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 We must remember the 95 Heisman voting
 
Eddie George    1460
Tommie Frazier  1196
Danny Wuerffel   987
Darnell Autry      535
 
And the 2000 voting
 
Chris Weinke    1628
Josh Heupl       1552
Drew Brees        619
LaDanian Tomlinson  566
Damien Anderson 101
 
So there is some recent precedent for a top-5 finish
 
Though it is scary to look at recent Heisman totals, and compare them to NFL success
 
Chuck Herron   Tech 85
 
-----Original Message-----
From: NEONRye@aol.com
To: nwu-sports@romaine.tssi.com
Sent: Thu, 27 Oct 2005 21:14:31 EDT
Subject: [NU Sports] Some Thoughts on Saturday Night's Game


I was pondering the game vs. Mich. and have decided that this is perhaps  the 
defining moment of the Randy Walker Era (unless someone counters with  
Rashidi Wheeler's death).   The NU Football program is at a true fork  in the 
road--one way (a good, solid win over the Wolves in the national  spotlight and 
with 
a bowl game and continued presence in the National Rankings  as the "cookies" 
if we prevail) leads to a major boost in recruiting, as young  HS studs (with 
good SAT's, of course) see how Baz and Tyrell and our other  standouts are 
thriving in the NU "System".  The other way is a loss,  especially a bad loss.  
It won't ruin our season or doom us to mediocrity  forever, but it will be a 
setback nonetheless and will reinforce the impression  that most fans have that 
we are an academic institution that can't  really compete with the big boys.  
Yes, I know we beat tOSU last year and  have had other dramatic wins.  But we 
never had a QB who might make the  "Final 5" for the Heisman, nor have we had 
a RB who might actually win the  trophy.  They give us validation and 
visibility.  Hence, this is the  moment for a "Perfect Storm" (actually, if 
Stephen 
is right, a "Purple  Blizzard") of NU Football dominance.  Seize the moment, 
'Cats.  Claw  the Wolves and the glory is yours!
 
Oh, how I wish I could be there.....
 
Paul Levinson (From NY, of course)
 
P.S.:  To our friends and fellow alums in the "Windy City", we loved  the Sox 
win from here.
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From NEONRye at aol.com  Fri Oct 28 22:13:05 2005
From: NEONRye at aol.com (NEONRye@aol.com)
Date: Fri Oct 28 22:16:56 2005
Subject: [NU Sports] Some Thoughts on Saturday Night's Game
Message-ID: <219.cb5745e.309442c1@aol.com>

I didn't forget the DA's, but I specifically mentioned that Baz plays the  QB 
position.    The only QB NU has ever had with more deserved  notoriety that I 
can recall is Otto Graham.   No knock here on Steve  Schnur, Zak Kustok, or 
even Maurie Daigneau (from the early '70's, who led NU to  two second -place 
finishes in the Big 10 during my years there).
 
Paul Levinson
From rstetson at capps-assoc.com  Sat Oct 29 11:19:28 2005
From: rstetson at capps-assoc.com (Roy Lamberton)
Date: Sat Oct 29 11:20:32 2005
Subject: [NU Sports] ESPN Coverage of the Homecoming Game
Message-ID: <000401c5dca4$8abbd500$6500a8c0@DAVIDXP>

One of my spies tells me that

College GameDay will have alum Rachel Nichols's nearly three-minute feature on
Basanez, and after the game tonight, ESPNews will have postgame coverage to go
along with the WGN post game interviews.

I'm going to need two tape recorders tonight!

Don't forget the Cat Chat room 
http://pub43.bravenet.com/chat/show.php?usernum=3660815782&cpv=2

I'll be there, maybe late, but I'm on the road in Greensboro, NC tonight!

Go Cats, Waste the Wolves

rsl

From rstetson at capps-assoc.com  Sat Oct 29 11:25:55 2005
From: rstetson at capps-assoc.com (Roy Lamberton)
Date: Sat Oct 29 11:26:25 2005
Subject: [NU Sports] Some Thoughts on Saturday Night's Game
In-Reply-To: <219.cb5745e.309442c1@aol.com>
Message-ID: <000501c5dca5$7009c450$6500a8c0@DAVIDXP>

Don't forget that Baz has said that he patterns his play after Zak...

But the long line of NU QBs who labored in the trenches before Zak and Baz need
to be recognized - starting back with the late Mitch Anderson, who had to work
thru the dark days of NU.

rsl 

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> [mailto:nwu-sports-bounces@tssi.com] On Behalf Of NEONRye@aol.com
> Sent: Friday, October 28, 2005 11:13 PM
> To: CHerron604@aol.com; nwu-sports@tssi.com
> Subject: Re: [NU Sports] Some Thoughts on Saturday Night's Game
> 
> 
> I didn't forget the DA's, but I specifically mentioned that 
> Baz plays the  QB 
> position.    The only QB NU has ever had with more deserved  
> notoriety that I 
> can recall is Otto Graham.   No knock here on Steve  Schnur, 
> Zak Kustok, or 
> even Maurie Daigneau (from the early '70's, who led NU to  
> two second -place 
> finishes in the Big 10 during my years there).
>  
> Paul Levinson
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From MHRJGScott at aol.com  Sat Oct 29 11:42:52 2005
From: MHRJGScott at aol.com (MHRJGScott@aol.com)
Date: Sat Oct 29 11:46:50 2005
Subject: [NU Sports] ESPN Coverage of the Homecoming Game
Message-ID: <110.55a57086.3095008c@aol.com>

 
In a message dated 10/29/2005 11:21:09 AM US Eastern Standard Time,  
rstetson@capps-assoc.com writes:

College  GameDay will have alum Rachel Nichols's nearly three-minute feature  
on
Basanez


Yeah I saw it, what a great kid, RW was funny also. Go  CATS!
From thehaze at earthlink.net  Sat Oct 29 11:51:39 2005
From: thehaze at earthlink.net (Jim Bendat)
Date: Sat Oct 29 11:55:31 2005
Subject: [NU Sports] ESPN Coverage of the Homecoming Game
References: <110.55a57086.3095008c@aol.com>
Message-ID: <4363A89B.1020104@earthlink.net>

Did you catch those goggles BB was wearing for his vision exercises.  He 
sort of looked like Da Ali G !!

MHRJGScott@aol.com wrote:

> 
>In a message dated 10/29/2005 11:21:09 AM US Eastern Standard Time,  
>rstetson@capps-assoc.com writes:
>
>College  GameDay will have alum Rachel Nichols's nearly three-minute feature  
>on
>Basanez
>
>
>Yeah I saw it, what a great kid, RW was funny also. Go  CATS!
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From WildElk2 at aol.com  Sat Oct 29 14:16:54 2005
From: WildElk2 at aol.com (WildElk2@aol.com)
Date: Sat Oct 29 14:20:48 2005
Subject: [NU Sports] Defining game
Message-ID: <42.74aa075e.309524a6@aol.com>

   Paul and gang,

   A big game? Yes. Actually, a very big game.  A defining game? No. I have a 
problem with the "all the marbles" philosophy. Rather, I believe in the 
saying yhat your not as good as you think you are when you win; your not as bad as 
you think you are when you lose.
   Yes, this is a big step, but as we found out after the 1995 and 1996 
seasons, and again after the 2000 season, a big, heart-stopping win against 
Michigan does not make us consistantly topped rank.
   We've all seen Michigan plenty of times. Defensively, they're the best 
since Penn St.  As we all know, 5 FG's and 2 TD's equaled a loss.  Tonight, I 
predict 5 TD's and 2 FG's as well as a spirited, if not flawed performance on D.  
McGarigle will haunt the Wolves tonight. I predict a wild 41-38 win.  
   It's 3 PM now; I've been cool all day, but I'm starting to get a little 
weird now. Beat the #@!(&F^6778 out of 'em Cats!!!                 

    GO CATS!!!               Eric
From NEONRye at aol.com  Sat Oct 29 17:26:23 2005
From: NEONRye at aol.com (NEONRye@aol.com)
Date: Sat Oct 29 17:30:22 2005
Subject: [NU Sports] Defining game
Message-ID: <1e0.47cae7d8.3095510f@aol.com>

The NY Post Pigskin Picks expert has it 38-37 'Cats, so Eric and he see eye  
to eye.  I'm going over to watch the game at a friend's home.  His son  is a 
frosh in Ann Arbor, so we will be at odds all night.  But I have an  edge:  I 
am wearing my 1996 Rose Bowl hat!
 
Paul Levinson
From nolan at romaine.tssi.com  Sat Oct 29 21:45:43 2005
From: nolan at romaine.tssi.com (Mike Nolan)
Date: Sat Oct 29 21:45:46 2005
Subject: [NU Sports] Is this the Walker legacy?
Message-ID: <200510300245.j9U2jhNx007198@romaine.tssi.com>

This was a game where the Cats just weren't hitting on all cylinders.  Too
many self-inflicted wounds, penalties, missed plays, a killer fumble/TD.

For those of you wondering about the Walker Legacy, I think maybe ESPN 
summed it up by noting that under Walker NU has never won 4 games in a row.
--
Mike Nolan

From warneradams at comcast.net  Sat Oct 29 23:40:58 2005
From: warneradams at comcast.net (warneradams)
Date: Sat Oct 29 23:57:16 2005
Subject: [NU Sports] Is this the Walker legacy?
In-Reply-To: <200510300245.j9U2jhNx007198@romaine.tssi.com>
Message-ID: <200510300457.j9U4vFbl002743@gw.tssi.com>

Randy Walker's "legacy" is that his Northwestern teams have never won four
in a row?  I hope that was said in the heat of the moment.  

He has the best winning percentage of any football coach at Northwestern
since Ara Parseghian. 
He is on the verge of winning 6 games in a season for the third straight
year, something the Cats have done exactly once in their 124 year history.
He runs a clean program.
He has won a Big Ten Title.
He has taken the Cats to two of the five bowl games in the school's history.
He is well-respected by his fellow coaches in the Big Ten.
He is well-respected by the administration.
He appears to be well-respected by his players.

THAT's his legacy to date. 
 

-----Original Message-----
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Sent: Saturday, October 29, 2005 9:46 PM
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Subject: [NU Sports] Is this the Walker legacy?

This was a game where the Cats just weren't hitting on all cylinders.  Too
many self-inflicted wounds, penalties, missed plays, a killer fumble/TD.

For those of you wondering about the Walker Legacy, I think maybe ESPN 
summed it up by noting that under Walker NU has never won 4 games in a row.
--
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From thehaze at earthlink.net  Sun Oct 30 00:09:14 2005
From: thehaze at earthlink.net (Jim Bendat)
Date: Sun Oct 30 00:13:04 2005
Subject: [NU Sports] Defining game
References: <1e0.47cae7d8.3095510f@aol.com>
Message-ID: <4364557A.30605@earthlink.net>

Well, I'd now have to say that next week's game against Iowa will be the 
defining game of the season.  How will we react to a disappointing loss, 
coupled with playing an excellent Iowa team coming into town with a 
week's rest?  If we win it, we're bowl eligible.  But if we lose it, 
we're highly likely to go into the Illinois game with a three-game 
losing streak and a 5-5 record, needing to defeat the Illini to get any 
bowl big and to avoid a losing season.  -- Jim B.  


From nolan at romaine.tssi.com  Sun Oct 30 01:26:04 2005
From: nolan at romaine.tssi.com (Mike Nolan)
Date: Sun Oct 30 01:26:07 2005
Subject: [NU Sports] Is this the Walker legacy? (fwd)
Message-ID: <200510300626.j9U6Q4L1008669@romaine.tssi.com>

> Randy Walker's "legacy" is that his Northwestern teams have never won four
> in a row?  I hope that was said in the heat of the moment.  

No, it was said in the light of public opinion, since the comment came from
the announcers on ESPN.  Public opinion is where a legacy comes from, much 
though we might wish to define it among ourselves.

The good news is that it appears Walker is on the verge of moving beyond 
his legacy being the death of Rashidi Wheeler, I don't recall ESPN mentioning 
it even once tonight.  But it'll take more than a few 6 win seasons to write 
a brighter one.

> He has the best winning percentage of any football coach at Northwestern
> since Ara Parseghian. 

And a cumulative record that would probably get him fired at over half of
the schools in the conference.

After 9 years at Miami of Ohio, Walker was 59-35-5, he's not likely to 
eclipse that percentage anytime soon in Evanston, since he was 30-41 at 
the end of his 6th season.  

Gary Barnett raised expectations by showing that Northwestern COULD
compete, the challenge Walker has is in some respects much harder--to 
compete on a year-in and year-out basis, and we're not there yet.  

> He is on the verge of winning 6 games in a season for the third straight
> year, something the Cats have done exactly once in their 124 year history.

Let's not count that chicken quite yet.  I still think they could/should win 
2 more games, and a win in Columbus is not totally out of the question, but 
they could also finish 5-6.  In retrospect, next week's game is possibly 
more critical than this week's was (though perhaps on a more short-term scale.)

This wasn't a BAD game (ASU was), it just wasn't a very good one, especially 
after all the buildup on ESPN.  

However, it may still turn out to be good for recruiting.  The post-Basanez 
era is coming, and there were probably high school players watching tonight's 
game that liked what they saw happening in the purple uniforms even though 
the Cats lost.  We'll always have the quality of a Northwestern education 
on our side, but ESPN kept pointing out that there are players on this team 
who have the potential to play on Sundays, and that never hurts recruiting, 
either.  

> He runs a clean program.

Big deal, every coach is supposed to do that, and most do.  It's just that
we only remember the exceptions.

> He has won a Big Ten Title.

Big deal, so has nearly every other team in the conference in the last
12-15 years, including a few coaches who were subsequently fired.
I think the only exceptions are Indiana and Minnesota.  

> He has taken the Cats to two of the five bowl games in the school's history.

And lost both games.

> He is well-respected by his fellow coaches in the Big Ten.

That never keeps a coach from getting fired, does it?

> He is well-respected by the administration.

That hasn't kept a lot of coaches from getting fired, either.  There are 
probably only 2 people at Northwestern whose opinion matters in that
regard, and maybe really only one.  However, it appears he does have the
support that matters.

> He appears to be well-respected by his players.

I did not get that impression in the two seasons following Wheeler's death.
If that's changed, that's very good news, if it stays that way.  
 
> THAT's his legacy to date. 

Great coaches get their teams to bounce back from losses.  The Cats came up
one play short of a complete bounce-back from the pummelling in the desert, 
and then put together a nice string after the frustrating loss to Penn State, 
if they can do that again, THEN Walker will be starting to write his enduring
legacy.
--
Mike Nolan


From johnl at mac.com  Sun Oct 30 01:38:30 2005
From: johnl at mac.com (John Labbe)
Date: Sun Oct 30 01:38:42 2005
Subject: [NU Sports] Putting it into perspective
Message-ID: <7217344b843e4f66d01383d1984ddea9@mac.com>

I don't think I had been quite as excited about a game since the Penn 
State game in 1995.  Maybe that's why after Cole's interception down by 
the endzone in the first quarter, I commented that it reminded me of 
Ismaeli's interception in that game.  Ismaeli's was down along the same 
sideline, but at about midfield.  I remember thinking interception on 
both plays when the ball was in the air.

A win today, coupled with another win next week, would have cemented us 
in the rankings for the season.

But frankly, even had we won today, our chances of a Big Ten 
championship were slim.  I think we all recognized how hard it will be 
to win in Columbus, and odds are that either Wisconsin or Penn State 
(probably Penn State) will win out with a 7-1 record.

So we lost another one under the lights to a surging Michigan team, who 
played a great game of defense today.  Kirk Herbstreit tonight said he 
thought the Michigan defense had the number one performance today in 
all of college football.  I would agree.  In the second half, Basanez 
never had open receivers downfield.  We killed ourselves with holding 
penalties, but it was really the Michigan D that did us in.

If we recover from this game and secure a victory next week against 
Iowa, we will likely finish 5-3 in the conference and 7-4 overall.  
That's not too bad at all.  Much better than most people were 
predicting before the season began.  I think we will regroup and get 
the win next week.  Maybe our offense got a little full of itself this 
week.  It's hard to say.  But I think we'll be ready to play next week. 
  We know what's on the line.

As I watch the game on DVD while I write this, that darn no-call pass 
interference play in the second quarter was a real killer, and one of 
the worst no-calls I can recall.  We were driving to tie the game, 
something we never did.  Michigan then took their ensuing drive for a 
TD to go ahead 14.  Although I'd have to say the fumble return wound up 
being the real thing that killed the game for us.  That was essentially 
a 14-point swing, if you assume that we would have found the endzone 
had we not fumbled.

Who thought that if we could hold them to 6 points in the second half, 
we would lose?

Well, if you're still reading, here's the stat that tells the story of 
the game:  Our average drive in the second half was 6.3 yards.  We had 
7 drives in the second half.  Four of them were three and out for a net 
loss of 9, 6, 6, and 1 yards.  Our longest drive of the half was 23 
yards.  The other two were 22 and 21.  We got into Michigan territory 
on just two of those drives, the deepest drive to the Michigan 42.

From herms at hotmail.com  Sun Oct 30 01:01:36 2005
From: herms at hotmail.com (Herman Wang)
Date: Sun Oct 30 01:01:59 2005
Subject: [NU Sports] Putting it into perspective
In-Reply-To: <7217344b843e4f66d01383d1984ddea9@mac.com>
Message-ID: <BAY108-F3666E685C84A2293C64CE8AE6D0@phx.gbl>

I wasn't able to watch the game, since I was in Knoxville watching Tennessee 
blunder its way into a loss against South Carolina.  Can someone explain why 
we only had 18 rushing attempts the whole game?  I found it odd that we ran 
the ball so few times, when our ground attack is so potent.  In the box 
score, Sutton averaged 5 yards a carry, and Roberson had 10.5 yards a carry. 
  Was there a reason our offensive gameplan didn't include more runs?

Herman


From nolan at romaine.tssi.com  Sun Oct 30 01:15:45 2005
From: nolan at romaine.tssi.com (Mike Nolan)
Date: Sun Oct 30 01:15:49 2005
Subject: [NU Sports] Putting it into perspective (fwd)
Message-ID: <200510300715.j9U7Fj0b009241@romaine.tssi.com>

> I wasn't able to watch the game, since I was in Knoxville watching Tennessee 
> blunder its way into a loss against South Carolina.  Can someone explain why 
> we only had 18 rushing attempts the whole game?  I found it odd that we ran 
> the ball so few times, when our ground attack is so potent.  In the box 
> score, Sutton averaged 5 yards a carry, and Roberson had 10.5 yards a carry. 
>   Was there a reason our offensive gameplan didn't include more runs?

I think another post points out the main reason, the Cats were stifled in
the 2nd half, a combination of great defense, dropped or slightly off-target
passes and too many holding calls wiping out the few good plays they DID 
have.  When you're facing 2nd or 3rd and long and down by 14 or more points, 
the running game isn't at the top of the playlist.

In other words, the answer to your question is that we don't really know
how much the running game figured in the offensive game plan, because the 
games situation threw that book out the window.
--
Mike Nolan

From tkmaycock at yahoo.com  Sun Oct 30 09:20:23 2005
From: tkmaycock at yahoo.com (Tom Maycock)
Date: Sun Oct 30 09:21:32 2005
Subject: [NU Sports] Putting it into perspective (fwd)
In-Reply-To: <200510300715.j9U7Fj0b009241@romaine.tssi.com>
Message-ID: <20051030152023.86582.qmail@web33110.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

> have.  When you're facing 2nd or 3rd and long and down by 14 or more
> points, 
> the running game isn't at the top of the playlist.

Yep. The holding penalties really killed any chance we had. I can't
remember now if it was 5 or 6 consecutive drive-killing holding
penalties. That took away the running game entirely, and we simply were
not going to to convert 2nd and 20 or 3rd and 20 against Michigan.

We spotted them 10 points, which was probably more than could be
overcome. Baz was off at times, the receivers dropped a bunch of
crucial passes. And the O-line didn't hold up quite as well as they
needed too, killing any chance for a comeback with the holding
penalties. Basically, the NU offense had to play really well to win
this game, and instead played poorly for big chunks of the game.

The one scary thing was seeing how effective stunts and blitzes were at
disrupting the passing game. They were bring guys all the way around
from one side of the D-line to the other, pretty much ensuring that
they would have an unimpeded path to the QB when they rounded the
corner. Baz wasn't finding anyone open early, and then the pressure
would come and he would have to scramble and improvise. The coaches
will need to address that tactic or Iowa and OSU will do the same.

The good news:

* The defense made huge strides. I have no idea how they managed to
hold up in the 2nd half, but they did. This loss was all on the
offense. 

* Special teams--despite lots of punts from bad field position, we
never gave up a decisive return. I still wish we could drop KO's in the
endzoen, but given the limitation, we executed the KO strategy pretty
much perfectly--again, no killer returns.

* We are generally close to matching up physically with Michigan.
That's an amazing change from 20 years ago.

The bad news: the offense picked a bad time to make bunches of
mistakes. Certainly a lot of credit goes to Michigan's defense--they
forced those mistakes by covering receivers and pressuring the QB.

The Iowa game is now really huge. Drop that, and we probably get killed
at OSU, and will face a real, real tough game at Illinois. Beat Iowa,
and you go into an OSU with a nothing-to-lose attitude and probably
have a lot more confidence going down to Champaign.

Tom


From DPENDERG at aol.com  Sun Oct 30 09:42:50 2005
From: DPENDERG at aol.com (DPENDERG@aol.com)
Date: Sun Oct 30 09:46:57 2005
Subject: [NU Sports] Is this the Walker legacy?
Message-ID: <111.5616d995.309643fa@aol.com>

I think we can talk at the end of the season about the Walker legacy and  
this season's outcome.  My immediate concern is that we occupied the  national 
stage against one of the country's legendary football programs and  did not 
seize the moment.  I, frankly, was not overly impressed by  Michigan.  They're 
good but not close to some of the great teams they have  had in the past.  With 
an offensive performance comparable to what we've  seen earlier, the Cats could 
have won that game but their unfocused play  (penalties, turnovers, sloppy 
blocking/tackling, bad or dropped passes) just  handed the game to the Wolves.  
I think we lost it more than they won  it.  How much was letdown after MSU or 
poor preparation by coaches and  players is hard to say, but it was very 
disappointing to any Wildcat fan who  knows we can play much better.
 
The big question for the so-called Walker Legacy is how we handle this loss  
and play against Iowa next Saturday.  It will be again another winnable  game, 
but no one knows which Wildcat team will show up.  
From NEONRye at aol.com  Sun Oct 30 11:52:24 2005
From: NEONRye at aol.com (NEONRye@aol.com)
Date: Sun Oct 30 11:53:55 2005
Subject: [NU Sports] Is this the Walker legacy?
Message-ID: <21a.1623124.30966258@aol.com>

I agree with the comments made so far, but feel the need to point out  
something else, in my state of disappointment:  Our "O" line was, for the  most 
part, manhandled by UM's "D" line.  To me, that probably tipped the  scales even 
more than our obvious dropped balls, penalties, and  fumbles.  BB had "happy 
feet" a few times in the 2nd half, due to the  pressure he was getting.  He made 
some beautiful throws on the run (and a  few ducks as well), but most of 
those, alas, were dropped.   Our  inability to even move the chains in the 2nd 
half was astounding.  Also,  UM's kicking game was unbelievable.  They really 
siezed field advantage  throughout, with excellent punting and the best kickoffs 
at the college level I  have I ever seen, not to mention a perfect night in 
the PK dept.
 
Paul Levinson
From sjtruog at yahoo.com  Sun Oct 30 12:55:32 2005
From: sjtruog at yahoo.com (SjT (Stephen J. Truog))
Date: Sun Oct 30 12:56:41 2005
Subject: [NU Sports] WILDCAT WRAP: #25 Michigan 33, #21 Northwestern 17
Message-ID: <20051030185532.26927.qmail@web52912.mail.yahoo.com>

As the lights went on at Ryan Field Saturday night,
the crowd was ready. The students were in a frenzy.
The weather was perfect for an autumn clash between
ranked teams. The sky-cam of ESPN prime time national
football was whizzing by overhead. And everything was
in place for the Northwestern Wildcats to make a
statement. Just one thing was missing.

The offense.

Brett Basanez, Tyrell Sutton and the rest of the
purple-powered attack that had carved up defenses the
last month was not ready for prime time and had their
worst game of the year at the worst time as
Northwestern fell to Michigan, 17-33.

The game started like a shootout, with Basanez looking
every bit like the best quarterback in the league,
perfect on his first 7 attempts, eclipsing 100 yards
with ease and making several ?wow!?
needle-in-a-haystack throws. Early turnovers, however,
slowed the Wildcat momentum.

A late surge before half gave the fans hope that the
shootout would resume, but both teams came out of the
locker room to play perhaps the most boring second
half of football in the last decade at Ryan Field. The
Cats were hampered by penalties on offense while
Michigan was hampered by Lloyd Carr?s usual
conservative play calling. After scoring a combined 21
points in the first seven minutes of the game, there
were a grand total of two field goals in the last 30
minutes as NU?s homecoming limped to a disappointing
finish.

The story of the first half was turnovers by the
offense ? a key fumble on the Cats? first drive by
Sutton turned what was about to be a 7-7 game into a
14-0 Michigan lead. And a mixup of communications on
the route by Shaun Herbert and Basanez led to an early
interception. The Wolverines did their best to even
things out with a few turnovers of their own, but the
early miscues clearly shook the confidence of the NU
offense ? one that had come out of the locker room on
fire and electrified by a purple-frenzied crowd.

The story of the second half was penalties by the
offense ? each of the five drives in the third quarter
contained a crucial holding call to turn a first down
or 2nd and short into 2nd and 20 or 3rd and long. Some
were earned, but some of those whistles sure seemed
suspicious in their timing. After a first half where
literally anything went and nothing was called (even a
late hit on Baz that brought Coach Walker 15 yards on
to the field to protest a shot on his star senior),
the refs came out of the locker room and seemed intent
on killing any momentum the Cats got going in the
third. Was it the difference in the game? I know we
didn?t deserve to win, but I also know we weren?t the
only ones committing penalties in the second half. And
the way it came once on each drive just destroyed any
attempts to find a rhythm.

But the story of the game overall was the NU offense.
It was almost as if someone had swapped Mike Dunbar?s
playbook from last year with his one from this year
before the game, We never established a running game.
We seldom threw it downfield (and the times we did
resulted in two big touchdowns) or over the middle.
And the second half was chock full of 3-yard outs that
Michigan?s defense was jumping on all day, miserably
executed screen attempts and strung out runs that went
laterally but not vertically.

We just had the wrong game plan for Michigan?s quick
linebackers and defense. We didn?t punch it up the
middle or pass over the middle deep. We played right
into their strength. A typical groan-inducing call
came late in the game when we were still in the game
and had 3rd and long and proceeded to run a backwards
pass on another failed screen attempt.

The amazing thing is that Northwestern was still in
the game until midway through the fourth quarter. The
defense didn?t play a good game, but they did get a
few stops (but credit much of that to Michigan?s
conservative play calling) and forced their usual
amount of turnovers ? including a dazzling
interception by Marques Cole and a gritty pick by Tim
McGarrigle in the second half that should have ignited
a rally. But as much as the purple-clad crowd wanted
to get back into the game, the offense just sputtered
and fizzled. The special teams did a good job of
keeping Wolverine Steve Breaston in check despite
numerous punts from the shadow of our goal post.

The one bright spot for the O aside from Baz? sizzling
start was Mark Philmore. He came to play Saturday,
making some great catches and did everything in his
power to spark the team. After Sutton?s early fumble
and Michigan?s defensive touchdown made it 14-0, Baz
quickly spotted a mismatch and hit Philmore for a long
pass (one of our few deep throws on the day) to cut
the deficit in half. And after the D held Michigan to
a field goal before half with the score 27-10, Baz hit
Philmore again on a perfectly thrown ball and
incredible catch to cap a 50-second scoring drive and
make it 27-17 heading into the locker room.

But the 3-and-out as we came out of halftime was just
the start of the miserable final 30 minutes. Michigan
got two field goals and the NU defense kept it within
striking distance, but we never had a chance with our
dink-and-dunk play calling against Michigan?s
linebackers. We never stretched the field vertically
or got Sutton and the ground game going in the second
half.

By the time the lights went out, the Cats had let a
big opportunity slip away and were held to under 20
points for the first time all season.

After the ASU and PSU losses, expectations sank for
this team and they were clearly not as bad as feared.
But after the last three weeks and two wins over
ranked teams, expectations soared just as quickly and
the Cats were not as good as we hoped. At the end of
the day, the loss hurts 
 but I think at the start of
the season, most NU fans would have been encouraged to
see the team at 5-3 at this point. 

We need to bounce back in a hurry to catch a rested
Iowa team at home next week in the Dyche Stadium
finale for the season. I hope that the fans who showed
up in purple and made all the noise for Saturday?s
game don?t take the loss too hard and jump off the
bandwagon, because #14, #41 and the rest of our
seniors deserve to be saluted and thanked for their
years of play in purple on Senior Day. We?re still one
win from a bowl (and from our third straight 6-win and
non-losing conference season) and it would be sweet to
get that postseason-clinching victory over the hated
Hawkeyes who have had our number lately.

One other note on the crowd last night ? they wore
purple, the stood on third down and they created an
electrifying atmosphere for the recruits, alumni and
national audience. WELL DONE! We kept waiting for a
second half spark to bring them back in, but it never
came ? still, the effort was appreciated. And Michigan
brought more fans than I remember them bringing to
Evanston before (which is odd because a 3-loss season
is a big disappointment for them, yet they still came
so they deserve credit) ? they were vocal yet
courteous and classy for the most part and it was just
a great atmosphere for college football and great to
see that environment in Evanston (of course, I?d have
preferred if Michigan had played that way against
NOTRE DAME instead!).

GAME BALLS
* Mark Philmore ? He may have had a clash or two with
the coaches earlier in the year, but Philmore?s
stepped it up lately and really showcased his skills
for the prime time audience. His leadership and
example can only benefit our deep group of receivers
for next year.
* The secondary ? I?ll give this much-maligned group a
game ball for a solid game. Whether it was by gameplan
or not, Michigan never hit the deep backbreaker on us
that PSU did in their game, and Avant and Breaston are
two of the more talented wideouts in the nation. They
tried once and Cole made them pay by using his speed
to simply want the ball more and come up with the
pick. And there was one play in the first half down by
the goal line on third down where one of our backs
(didn?t catch the number) got an amazing jam on Avant
at the line. Chad Henne and Lloyd Carr cried foul for
a flag, but it was such a strong jam (and within 5
yards before the ball was thrown) that it just stunned
Avant.
* The fans ? Great atmosphere and great energy. Sadly,
the offense couldn?t feed off of it and get back in
the game in the second half. Ryan Field was one play
away from exploding in pandemonium all night and you
could feel the anticipation, but no one ever got that
spark. Still, watching the ESPN rebroadcast and seeing
that sea of purple haze still gives me goosebumps!

THINGS TO WORK ON
* Mental attitude ? The early turnovers and the
second-half zebras really affected our offense more
than any maize and blue scheme. We were supposed to be
tougher than that and overcome that ? bounce back next
week, gentlemen!
* Offensive play calling ? After near flawless game
plans the last month, the coaching staff laid a giant
egg with the Michigan game plan ? feeding into their
defensive strengths and never adjusting once they took
our short outs and screens away to spread the ball
vertically or get the ground game going forward and
not strung out laterally.
* Turnovers ? When the defense forces four turnovers
and only allows two touchdowns despite Michigan
enjoying great field position all day, we should win
with our offense. But we turned it over almost as many
times and even worse, allowed Michigan to score off of
the turnovers.

AROUND THE LEAGUE
* WISCONSIN struggled a bit with the defenseless
ILLINI and PENN STATE didn?t exactly crush PURDUE, but
it?s gonna be a dandy of a showdown in Happy Valley
next week as the Badgers and Lions (who both hold
tiebreaks over Ohio State) battle for what very well
could be the Big Ten title and BCS berth.
* Speaking of OHIO STATE, their offense exploded 
 but
how did they allow 31 to MINNESOTA?
* MSU kept Motor City hopes alive by beating INDIANA,
but the Hoosiers just need to win those home dates
with Minny and Purdue to get themselves into a bowl.
&#8721; So only Purdue and Illinois are eliminated
from the bowl chase and since the next lowest team has
only 4 losses, no one will be next week. Thus, with
two weeks left in the season in mid-November, the Big
Ten will 3-4 or more teams within a game of first and
nine teams with legitimate shots at a bowl. What a
league!

Well, if we were comparing this run to 1995 and 2000
where the Cats came into homecoming off a big 2-game
roadtrip and with momentum to prove itself nationally,
then homecoming 2005 felt much more like the 2000
disappointment against Purdue than the 1995 shutout of
Wisconsin. It was a shame to waste such a beautiful
night and amazing atmosphere with our worst offensive
game of the year.

Yet, we still need to keep things in perspective and
remember that the Cats are 5-3. The big game now
becomes Iowa. Nothing?s a given in the Big Ten for
sure, but it?s going to be tough to win in Columbus on
Senior Day and it?s also tough to see Illinois?
defense stopping the Cats. So our home finale with
Iowa becomes what could be the difference in a 7-4
season that could see a bowl trip to Texas (perhaps as
high as a return to beautiful San Antonio? Though I
still think Nashville may be our destination with the
reps of other teams ahead of us) 
 and a 6-5 campaign
that could end with a Motor City rematch with Bowling
Green. Beating the Hawkeyes alone should be motivation
enough, but the big difference in bowl placement is a
factor as well. Bounce back Cats! Shake it off O!

GO CATS!!!
-SjT

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From sjtruog at yahoo.com  Sun Oct 30 13:16:20 2005
From: sjtruog at yahoo.com (SjT (Stephen J. Truog))
Date: Sun Oct 30 13:17:29 2005
Subject: [NU Sports] Is this the Walker legacy? (fwd)
In-Reply-To: <200510300626.j9U6Q4L1008669@romaine.tssi.com>
Message-ID: <20051030191620.60478.qmail@web52903.mail.yahoo.com>

> > Randy Walker's "legacy" is that his Northwestern
> teams have never won four

Well, we appear to have covered the Randy Walker
spectrum in the last month are now back at ASU "fire
the bum" status?:)

> > He has the best winning percentage of any football
> coach at Northwestern
> > since Ara Parseghian. 
> 
> And a cumulative record that would probably get him
> fired at over half of
> the schools in the conference.

But you need to take everything in context. A 10-2
mark may get you fired at Nebraska but nominated for
Sainthood at 90% of the other schools.

Flip it around - if you swapped Walker and Carr,
Walker would probably win as many games as Carr with
Michigan's talent (especially opening up their
offensive game to use those talented wideouts) ... but
would Carr have won as many games at NU as Walker?

> > He is on the verge of winning 6 games in a season
> for the third straight
> > year, something the Cats have done exactly once in
> their 124 year history.
> 
> Let's not count that chicken quite yet.  I still
> think they could/should win 

I agree on not counting the chickens ... but IF we can
get to 6 wins for the third straight year, that is a
BIG step for consistency in the program. You build a
program by gradually increasing the level of
expectations and making the 6-win mark for three
straight years would do that. Is it the brilliant
flash Barnett was in 95 and 96? No. But it's also not
a flash in the pan when you do it consistently.

> This wasn't a BAD game (ASU was), it just wasn't a
> very good one, especially 
> after all the buildup on ESPN.  

Exactly - heartbreaking because we had the golden
apple there, set on a prime time table for us by ESPN,
and couldn't grasp it. (Thank goodness ASU wasn't on
TV:) )

> However, it may still turn out to be good for
> recruiting.  The post-Basanez 
> era is coming, and there were probably high school
> players watching tonight's 

I can tell from walking on the field pregame with the
NUMBalums that the high school recruits on the field
were looking around at the atmosphere -- as I was --
with a smile. To see the student section filled to the
rafters and screaming their heads off 30 minutes
before kickoff was AWESOME!

> > He runs a clean program.
> 
> Big deal, every coach is supposed to do that, and

Maybe it is expected, but is it really something most
do? (I include graduating players in the "clean
program" definition). Maybe in Big Ten land where you
have great academic institutions, but certainly not
all over (I'm looking at you, "probation rotation"
SEC!).

And even if most do, you still have to commend a coach
for that and not dismiss a clean, strong
graduation-rate program with a "so what"!!!!!!!

> > He has won a Big Ten Title.
> 
> Big deal, so has nearly every other team in the
> conference in the last

Again, what you're saying may be true (all but IU and
Minnesota) ... but still, IT **IS** A BIG DEAL TO WIN
A BIG TEN CHAMPIONSHIP! Especially when the number of
coaches who have done so at the school you coach can
be counted on one hand.

> > He has taken the Cats to two of the five bowl
> games in the school's history.
> 
> And lost both games.

As did Saint Gary. But a bowl trip involves much more
with extra practices, exposure, etc.

> > He is well-respected by his fellow coaches in the
> Big Ten.
> 
> That never keeps a coach from getting fired, does
> it?

:) - if that were the case, Bill Mallory may still
have a job. Come to think of it, how did that work out
for IU?

> > He appears to be well-respected by his players.
> 
> I did not get that impression in the two seasons
> following Wheeler's death.
> If that's changed, that's very good news, if it
> stays that way.  

I didn't see that after Wheeler as well (the 2001
collapse of a season was clearly a loss of the team,
IMO) ... but I do think that his players have rallied
around him the last couple seasons and really buy into
that "us against the world" mentality Walker has.

I agree though that the Iowa game will be BIG in
defining the season. Hopefully we can bounce back (or
at least find that offensive playbook we were using
prior to last night ... the one at MSU, Purdue, vs.
UW, etc.).

GO CATS!!!
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From sjtruog at yahoo.com  Sun Oct 30 13:25:01 2005
From: sjtruog at yahoo.com (SjT (Stephen J. Truog))
Date: Sun Oct 30 13:26:09 2005
Subject: [NU Sports] UM's D vs. NU's O
In-Reply-To: <21a.1623124.30966258@aol.com>
Message-ID: <20051030192501.50692.qmail@web52914.mail.yahoo.com>

> I agree with the comments made so far, but feel the
> need to point out  
> something else, in my state of disappointment:  Our
> "O" line was, for the  most 
> part, manhandled by UM's "D" line.  To me, that

I didn't get that impression from the field. We had a
few plays of pressure from Michigan, but I thought the
O-line did decent. What killed us was the Michigan
linebackers. Instead of running at them, we ran
sideways and they never allowed us to turn the corner
(except on that one option play). And their DBs and
LBs were ALL OVER our 3-yard-outs and screens.

> more than our obvious dropped balls, penalties, and 

Oh yeah, I had repressed those dropped balls.

OOOOOOOOUUUUUUUUCCCCCCCCHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!

Those hurt a lot, too!


> fumbles.  BB had "happy 
> feet" a few times in the 2nd half, due to the 

I did see happy feet ... I didn't take that as much of
pressure as Baz growing a bit trigger-jumpy after
those picks.

> those, alas, were dropped.   Our  inability to even
> move the chains in the 2nd 
> half was astounding. 

UGH! No kidding. And I have NO idea why we ran so few
times. It wasn't like we were down big in the second
half and had to abandon the run to air it out (because
we DIDN'T THROW DOWNFIELD DANGIT!!!!) ... those
penalties and 2nd and long played a role, but still,
we just never ran it right at Michigan.

> Also,  UM's kicking game was
> unbelievable.  They really 

Definitely. Even some of the Michigan fans I talked to
were shocked with that, having been used to a kicker
who missed a chip shot FG or two every game for the
last decade or so.

Still, we played with fire big-time with all those
punts and Breaston standing at midfield ... but never
got burned. We lost field position, but it didn't
explode in a return TD as I feared all night.

Whatever that game plan was ... BURN IT! Come back
with a vengeance on O next week because we gotta beat
those Hawkeyes!

GO CATS!!!
-SjT

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From thehaze at earthlink.net  Sun Oct 30 14:36:11 2005
From: thehaze at earthlink.net (Jim Bendat)
Date: Sun Oct 30 14:40:04 2005
Subject: [NU Sports] Last home game - March of the Steel Men
Message-ID: <43652EBB.308@earthlink.net>

Last year, I purchased the NU Marching Band CD "Hail to Purple." In 
reading the CD's extensive liner notes, I learned about a Northwestern 
tradition that isn't well known. At the last home game of each football 
season, the band plays an old song called "March of the Steel Men" in 
tribute to the departing seniors. This coming week's game against Iowa 
is, of course, our last home game. For me, it will be the first time I 
will be present at a season's final home game since 1970, and I'm 
definitely looking forward to both the game and the halftime show

NUMB announcer Pete Friedmann sent me an email with the history behind 
the "Steel Men," and I'd like to share it now:

Some of the details on the history of the ?March of the Steel Men? and how
it became a Northwestern tradition are sketchy and somewhat conflicting.
Here is some background information on the composer, the march, the arranger
and the tradition.  Basic information below is borrowed liberally from
Norman E. Smith?s ?Program Notes for Band.?  Addition information is from my
own experience, personal inquiries of those connected with the Northwestern
University and Joliet High School Bands, and long-ago conversations with
Forrest and Archie McAllister, sons of former Joliet Band Director A.R.
McAllister.


?March of the Steel Men?

By Charles S. Belsterling, arranged by Harry L. Alford


The Composer

Charles Starne Belsterling was born in Philadelphia on May 31, 1874 and died
in New York City on December 26, 1959.  Belsterling was a successful lawyer,
steel executive (Vice President of U.S. Steel from 1932 to 1942) and amateur
musician.

According to family history, Belsterling?s great-grandfather, Hans Jakob
B?lsterli, emigrated from Switzerland and was a descendant of French
statesman-soldier Marquis de Lafayette.  Belsterling?s grandfather, John
Fonderlet Belsterling, who anglicized the family?s Swiss surname, was a
five-term mayor of Philadelphia.  Belsterling?s father, William F.
Belsterling, was a founder of the oldest title insurance company in the
United States.

As a youth, Charles Belsterling spent a lot of time at the piano and
eventually began composing.  He grew up in Philadelphia, went to Neff
College (also in Philadelphia), and earned a law degree from the University
of Pittsburgh.  Between 1892 and 1914 he lived in New York, Pittsburgh and
Philadelphia while working for the structural iron and bridge fabricator
company A. & P. Roberts and then the American Bridge Company.  In 1914 he
began his long tenure with U.S. Steel Corporation, starting out as a general
commerce attorney.

Belsterling was a member of the Shriners for more than 50 years, the Masons
and numerous historical, industrial and legal associations in New York and
Philadelphia.  He also wrote at least three books on genealogical subjects.

During his high school years, Belsterling is believed to have written a
series of marches for piano and an Easter cantata.  The marches were played
mostly for family and friends, but the cantata was performed at a church in
Philadelphia.  However, like many other composers, he will be remembered for
only one composition.  In Belsterling?s case, it is ?March of the Steel
Men.?

The March

Music historians believe Belsterling initially wrote the music for ?March of
the Steel Men? to be used in a torchlight procession by a political marching
club of Philadelphia.  Its original title was ?The Ambassador? and
reportedly became popular as a piano solo.

Years later, in 1936, Belsterling was impressed by the quality of a concert
presented at New York?s Radio City Music Hall by the Joliet (Illinois) High
School Band, under the direction of A.R. McAllister.  For many years, U.S.
Steel had a sizable facility in Joliet, and the giant corporation helped
subsidize the Joliet High School Band?s trip and performance in New York.

In 1935 Joliet Township High School adopted the nickname ?Steelmen? in
conjunction with the high school acquiring a large steel statue from the
Chicago World?s Fair of 1933-1934.  The statue is still on display in the
school?s original (now Central Campus) building ? also site of the nation?s
first junior college ? and the high school?s teams are still called the
Steelmen.

McAllister learned about Belsterling?s interest and early musical ability
and asked him for a score.  Belsterling provided his music from ?The
Ambassador,? and McAllister asked noted composer/arranger Harry Alford to
arrange the piece for symphonic band.

On March 19, 1937, with Belsterling and publisher/composer Henry Fillmore in
the concert audience, McAllister and the Joliet Band presented the ?world
premiere? of Alford?s full band arrangement.  ?March of the Steel Men? was
dedicated ?To the Joliet High School Bands, Joliet, IL."

The Arranger

Harry L. Alford was born in Hudson, Michigan on August 3, 1875 and died in
Chicago on March 4, 1939.  As a composer and arranger, his many clients
included John Philip Sousa, Arthur Pryor, Patrick Conway, Scott Joplin, W.C.
Handy, University of Illinois Director of Bands A.A. Harding and
Northwestern University Director of Bands Glenn Cliffe Bainum.  Alford wrote
?The Purple Carnival March? in 1933 and dedicated it to Bainum and the
Northwestern University Band.

The Tradition

Bainum studied at the University of Illinois and for a time was A.A.
Harding?s assistant.  Bainum, Harding and A.R. McAllister were from
generally the same era ? a critical time in the development of today?s
American concert and marching bands.  Bainum knew McAllister well and had a
lot of respect for the quality and tradition of the Joliet bands.  Also,
many of the leading Midwestern band directors of that era studied and/or
worked together, sharing a close, common bond.  It is, therefore,
understandable that they would share a passion for some of the same music.

Many Joliet residents and natives associate "March of the Steel Men" with
the Joliet Bands.  The march has also been a staple of the Northwestern
University ?Wildcat? Marching Band for nearly half a century.  Northwestern
fans may think of ?March of the Steel Men? as an official school song
because of its honored tradition as the final march of the ?Wildcat? Band?s
last home football game halftime performance each season.

However, the march is not the sole property of any school, ensemble or city.
A quick search of the Internet will produce many band concerts that include
this delightful march in their programs.

Exactly how and when it was adopted by Northwestern is uncertain.  Since the
early 1980s, the announcer?s introduction of the march has stated that,
?Since 1928 ? two years after the dedication of Dyche Stadium (now Ryan
Field) ? the ?Old Plus Four? was unveiled for the first time.  Since then,
it has closed each home football season . . .?  It is believed that the ?Old
Plus Four? actually refers to the marching drill (maneuver) performed by the
band, not the march music itself.  

All of the people involved in the history provided above are now gone.
Tracking down and verifying a more complete and accurate story would be
difficult if not impossible.  At the very least, it would take considerable
digging and detective work to determine what music was originally performed
to the ?Old Plus Four? and when ?March of the Steel Men? was adopted in its
place, continuing to this day as a cherished Northwestern tradition.










From nolan at romaine.tssi.com  Sun Oct 30 15:06:02 2005
From: nolan at romaine.tssi.com (Mike Nolan)
Date: Sun Oct 30 15:06:05 2005
Subject: [NU Sports] Is this the Walker legacy? (fwd)
Message-ID: <200510302106.j9UL626w027707@romaine.tssi.com>

> Well, we appear to have covered the Randy Walker
> spectrum in the last month are now back at ASU "fire
> the bum" status?:)

I suggested no such thing, I merely noted that among the various stats that
ESPN threw at us last night was 'Walker has never won 4 games in a row
at Northwestern'.  Perception becomes reality.

On Friday, at least one of the sports sites had Randy Walker as a name 
that will be on some coaching vacancy short lists at the end of the season.  
Of course, some of those same pundits say that Bill Callahan is on 
the bubble at Nebraska, and that just won't be the case this year or even
next year, even if the Huskers go 0-4 to finish the season, which is not 
out of the question.  

A NU-UNL rematch in San Antonio is not out of the question, either, though
at this point that's a stretch for either team.  (I think Baz would pick the
Husker secondary apart.)
--
Mike Nolan




From MHRJGScott at aol.com  Sun Oct 30 15:14:13 2005
From: MHRJGScott at aol.com (MHRJGScott@aol.com)
Date: Sun Oct 30 15:18:07 2005
Subject: [NU Sports] beat Iowa
Message-ID: <193.4bab8cc2.309691a5@aol.com>

I do not claim to be a football expert but after watching the game again on  
HDTV, (I saw the first quarter last night before heading out to a Halloween  
party.) it is clear that after the Sutton fumble RW switched gears into a 
"let's  not get blown out offense" which may have been appropriate but played right 
into  Carr's game plan. Any year we beat Iowa is a great year to me, but I 
hope our  run and gun spread offense comes back to life next week and on and  
on...
From sjtruog at yahoo.com  Sun Oct 30 16:05:43 2005
From: sjtruog at yahoo.com (SjT (Stephen J. Truog))
Date: Sun Oct 30 16:06:51 2005
Subject: [NU Sports] Is this the Walker legacy? (fwd)
In-Reply-To: <200510302106.j9UL626w027707@romaine.tssi.com>
Message-ID: <20051030220544.89527.qmail@web52903.mail.yahoo.com>

> > Well, we appear to have covered the Randy Walker
> > spectrum in the last month are now back at ASU
> "fire
> > the bum" status?:)
> 
> I suggested no such thing, I merely noted that among
> the various stats that

Sorry - I didn't mean to say that you said that --
just that I heard the usual grumblings after the game
... not to mention I think we were greatly outcoached
on offense as well. But I suggest no such thing either
-- just that I don't think this will be his legacy
game.

> A NU-UNL rematch in San Antonio is not out of the
> question, either, though

It'd be kind of interesting, but I'm not sure we'd
make San Antonio even if we win out.

Notre Dame appears to have a BCS bid sewn up --
Tennessee has absolutely tanked their season, Syracuse
and Navy can't compete. Only Stanford appears to offer
ND a test the rest of the way. Now that Michigan
appears to be ranked, though, the Irish will have at
least beaten one top 20 team this year.

Funny how quickly things change -- this year even more
than most -- with top 10 preseason teams like
Oklahoma, Michigan, Iowa, etc. falling off the face of
the earth. Looking back at Notre Dame's schedule now,
what was perceived as a murderous start of a tough
schedule is now a much lighter slate with only USC and
Michigan as ranked foes and others -- Purdue, Pitt,
UDub -- just looking downright awful.

But anyway, with the Irish headed to the BCS, I doubt
we can get an extra BCS bid for the Big Ten. The SEC
and Pac 10 are going to have a couple of solid
candidates and the ACC could fit in the mix as well --
not to mention any upsets in championship games (if
Texas somehow loses to Colorado and the BCS computers
still have 'em in Pasadena ... well ... :) ).

So our three New Year's Day bowls would appear to be
locked between a resurgent Penn State, a
coaching-farewell-tour Wisconsin and the winner of the
OSU-Michigan game at the end of the year. The loser of
that game probably goes to San Antonio.

That leaves Iowa, NU, Minnesota, MSU and Indiana in
contention for the three remaining conference tie
bids. Of those, we're 3 or 4 in terms of traveling
fans and ratings marketability.

So each game left is pretty crucial for bowl position
among those five -- gotta beat those Hog-eyes!

GO CATS!!!
-SjT

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From Martinitis at aol.com  Sun Oct 30 16:19:11 2005
From: Martinitis at aol.com (Martinitis@aol.com)
Date: Sun Oct 30 16:31:54 2005
Subject: Fwd: [NU Sports] Is this the Walker legacy? (fwd)
Message-ID: <216.cd6374a.3096a0df@aol.com>

In a message dated 10/30/2005 11:18:17 AM Pacific Standard Time, 
sjtruog@yahoo.com writes:
And even if most do, you still have to commend a coach
for that and not dismiss a clean, strong
graduation-rate program with a "so what"!!!!!!!
AMEN TO THAT IN BOLD TYPE!  

I'd hate to think that we have become so jaded by our recent successes and 
high expectations over the past 10 years that we go right back to trashing the 
coach as soon as we have a set back ...and then even dismissing a clean program 
with an AA+ graduation rate.

I for one will be delighted if we can go 6-5 and appreciative of a 
coach/program that delivers 3 bowls in 5 years + the promise, the hope and the 
excitement given us by Saturday night's game and Walker's teams over the past several 
years.

I remember when.....................

Lou Martinaitis, '69
From thehaze at earthlink.net  Sun Oct 30 17:03:02 2005
From: thehaze at earthlink.net (Jim Bendat)
Date: Sun Oct 30 17:06:54 2005
Subject: [NU Sports] ESPN telecast
Message-ID: <43655126.50006@earthlink.net>

It was great listening to ESPN's analyst, Bob Davie.  He sounded like 
he's ready to become a P.R. guy for Northwestern.  Throughout the 
broadcast, he praised our school, talking about high GPAs and SAT 
scores, the small size of the school, the type of person who attends NU, 
etc.  -- Jim B.


From NEONRye at aol.com  Sun Oct 30 17:13:41 2005
From: NEONRye at aol.com (NEONRye@aol.com)
Date: Sun Oct 30 17:15:11 2005
Subject: [NU Sports] ESPN telecast
Message-ID: <20f.d133a7e.3096ada5@aol.com>

I know what you are talking about, Jim.  He kept calling us an "IVY  
LEAGUE"-type school.  The only thing he didn't call us was "The Harvard of  the 
Midwest".  He also seems to be a fan of RW.
 
Paul L.
From bwdolphin146 at yahoo.com  Sun Oct 30 19:30:48 2005
From: bwdolphin146 at yahoo.com (Brad Wilson)
Date: Sun Oct 30 19:31:59 2005
Subject: [NU Sports] Michigan's d-line and some perspective
Message-ID: <20051031013048.3239.qmail@web51315.mail.yahoo.com>

I agree with Paul and disagree with Steve on this one
-- Michigan's defensive line made a huge difference.
They got a rush with just four linemen rushing, a huge
plus in that they could drop linebackers into coverage
and not blitz d-backs. This accounted for the tight
coverage on our shorter routes that act as "runs". 

We can all agree the holding penalties were
devastating, and they all looked like good calls. And
all but one (the one on Herbert) were on o-linemen
holding Michigan d-linemen. I would suggest that if
the Michigan d-linemen had been less effective we
would not have had to hold and thus would have avoided
the holding penalties.

And it was Michigan's ability to control the line of
scrimmage that limited the running game's
effectiveness.

(I am impressed by the progress our young o-line has
made so far -- they are much better than I imagined
they'd be -- but this game just showed they have a
ways to go.)

I think this illustrates the difference between
Michigan and NU as programs. Great defensive linemen
are perhaps the rarest commodities in football.
Michigan gets plenty. At best, NU has 2 at once,
maybe, maybe 3. These kind of athletes are going to be
the hardest for NU to get, as they are the scarcest
and the power teams don't miss many. On the other
hand, as OSU fans are griping re Sutton, the power
teams do miss top-shelf running backs all the time.

Finally, please, people, a little perspective. Losing
this game was not the end of the world. It does not
mean Randy Walker is a dunce -- any more than the
three BT wins in a row made him a genius. It does not
mean the season is over. It was a game NU could have
won -- the fumble return was the absolute killer --
even when NU did not play terribly well. Other BT
teams have this kind of loss all the time -- take
Minnesota's win at Michigan, or Ohio State's at
Minnesota, just to name two. How teams react is the
key. There's a lot to play for -- a BT title could
still happen. A bowl game could -- should! -- still
happen. First win over Iowa since '99. First win at
Columbus since '71. The tomahawk. They are all out
there. 

While I was disappointed by the loss, I was not
disheartened; this wasn't a catastrophic disaster
like, say, Indiana in 2001. Neither should anybody
else be disheartened -- tough game, let's move on. 

Beat Iowa!

Brad Wilson 



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From tulip1999 at sbcglobal.net  Sun Oct 30 13:56:24 2005
From: tulip1999 at sbcglobal.net (Melissa & Brian J. Glenn)
Date: Sun Oct 30 20:03:53 2005
Subject: [NU Sports] Is this the Walker legacy? (fwd)
In-Reply-To: <200510300626.j9U6Q4L1008669@romaine.tssi.com>
Message-ID: <20051030195624.75771.qmail@web81608.mail.yahoo.com>

Super offenses, miserable defenses, poor kicking, lousy special teams play, poor clock management, unbalanced recruiting, and a LOSING RECORD!
 
Mike Nolan is right on, Walker's won/loss record alone would get him fired at most competitive DIV I schools. 
 
---  B.J. Glenn


Mike Nolan <nolan@romaine.tssi.com> wrote:
> Randy Walker's "legacy" is that his Northwestern teams have never won four
> in a row? I hope that was said in the heat of the moment. 

No, it was said in the light of public opinion, since the comment came from
the announcers on ESPN. Public opinion is where a legacy comes from, much 
though we might wish to define it among ourselves.

The good news is that it appears Walker is on the verge of moving beyond 
his legacy being the death of Rashidi Wheeler, I don't recall ESPN mentioning 
it even once tonight. But it'll take more than a few 6 win seasons to write 
a brighter one.

> He has the best winning percentage of any football coach at Northwestern
> since Ara Parseghian. 

And a cumulative record that would probably get him fired at over half of
the schools in the conference.

After 9 years at Miami of Ohio, Walker was 59-35-5, he's not likely to 
eclipse that percentage anytime soon in Evanston, since he was 30-41 at 
the end of his 6th season. 

Gary Barnett raised expectations by showing that Northwestern COULD
compete, the challenge Walker has is in some respects much harder--to 
compete on a year-in and year-out basis, and we're not there yet. 

> He is on the verge of winning 6 games in a season for the third straight
> year, something the Cats have done exactly once in their 124 year history.

Let's not count that chicken quite yet. I still think they could/should win 
2 more games, and a win in Columbus is not totally out of the question, but 
they could also finish 5-6. In retrospect, next week's game is possibly 
more critical than this week's was (though perhaps on a more short-term scale.)

This wasn't a BAD game (ASU was), it just wasn't a very good one, especially 
after all the buildup on ESPN. 

However, it may still turn out to be good for recruiting. The post-Basanez 
era is coming, and there were probably high school players watching tonight's 
game that liked what they saw happening in the purple uniforms even though 
the Cats lost. We'll always have the quality of a Northwestern education 
on our side, but ESPN kept pointing out that there are players on this team 
who have the potential to play on Sundays, and that never hurts recruiting, 
either. 

> He runs a clean program.

Big deal, every coach is supposed to do that, and most do. It's just that
we only remember the exceptions.

> He has won a Big Ten Title.

Big deal, so has nearly every other team in the conference in the last
12-15 years, including a few coaches who were subsequently fired.
I think the only exceptions are Indiana and Minnesota. 

> He has taken the Cats to two of the five bowl games in the school's history.

And lost both games.

> He is well-respected by his fellow coaches in the Big Ten.

That never keeps a coach from getting fired, does it?

> He is well-respected by the administration.

That hasn't kept a lot of coaches from getting fired, either. There are 
probably only 2 people at Northwestern whose opinion matters in that
regard, and maybe really only one. However, it appears he does have the
support that matters.

> He appears to be well-respected by his players.

I did not get that impression in the two seasons following Wheeler's death.
If that's changed, that's very good news, if it stays that way. 

> THAT's his legacy to date. 

Great coaches get their teams to bounce back from losses. The Cats came up
one play short of a complete bounce-back from the pummelling in the desert, 
and then put together a nice string after the frustrating loss to Penn State, 
if they can do that again, THEN Walker will be starting to write his enduring
legacy.
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From artmiller1 at hotmail.com  Sun Oct 30 20:37:49 2005
From: artmiller1 at hotmail.com (Arthur Miller)
Date: Sun Oct 30 20:56:16 2005
Subject: [NU Sports] Michigan's d-line and some perspective
In-Reply-To: <20051031013048.3239.qmail@web51315.mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <BAY106-DAV137AF20FE839BC02BE2C198A6C0@phx.gbl>



Thank you, Brad, for a well-reasoned post.

Indiana 2001...man, that was ugly.  I had to leave the WGN broadcast right
after kickoff, and when I tuned back in at the end of the first quarter I
could tell from the tone in Dave Eanet's voice that someone was going
horribly awry.  The score was Indiana 28, NU 0.

We still have a shot at a 7-4 season.  Let's make it happen, Wildcats!

Art Miller

-----Original Message-----
From: nwu-sports-bounces@tssi.com [mailto:nwu-sports-bounces@tssi.com] On
Behalf Of Brad Wilson
Sent: Sunday, October 30, 2005 7:31 PM
To: nwu-sports@tssi.com
Subject: [NU Sports] Michigan's d-line and some perspective
[...]
Finally, please, people, a little perspective. Losing
this game was not the end of the world. It does not
mean Randy Walker is a dunce -- any more than the
three BT wins in a row made him a genius. It does not
mean the season is over. It was a game NU could have
won -- the fumble return was the absolute killer --
even when NU did not play terribly well. Other BT
teams have this kind of loss all the time -- take
Minnesota's win at Michigan, or Ohio State's at
Minnesota, just to name two. How teams react is the
key. There's a lot to play for -- a BT title could
still happen. A bowl game could -- should! -- still
happen. First win over Iowa since '99. First win at
Columbus since '71. The tomahawk. They are all out
there. 

While I was disappointed by the loss, I was not
disheartened; this wasn't a catastrophic disaster
like, say, Indiana in 2001. Neither should anybody
else be disheartened -- tough game, let's move on. 

Beat Iowa!

Brad Wilson 

From michael.vance at att.net  Sun Oct 30 20:39:31 2005
From: michael.vance at att.net (Michael Vance)
Date: Sun Oct 30 20:56:22 2005
Subject: [NU Sports] Putting it into perspective (fwd)
In-Reply-To: <20051030152023.86582.qmail@web33110.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
References: <200510300715.j9U7Fj0b009241@romaine.tssi.com>
Message-ID: <5.2.0.9.0.20051030213559.03e92c30@ipostoffice.worldnet.att.net>

At 10/30/2005 10:20 AM, Tom Maycock wrote:
> > have.  When you're facing 2nd or 3rd and long and down by 14 or more
> > points,
> > the running game isn't at the top of the playlist.
>
>Yep. The holding penalties really killed any chance we had. I can't
>remember now if it was 5 or 6 consecutive drive-killing holding
>penalties. That took away the running game entirely, and we simply were
>not going to to convert 2nd and 20 or 3rd and 20 against Michigan.

And, the one second half drive where we decided to run on first down, an 
option right, we got called for holding there, too.  I think that the 
O-Line, for all their talent, showed their age and inexperience compared 
against Michigan's D-Line.  Halftime adjustments to line play, especially 
on passing plays, are always going to favor the defensive line unless the 
O-Line can adjust on the fly.  Ours couldn't.

-Michael 

From sjtruog at yahoo.com  Sun Oct 30 21:25:06 2005
From: sjtruog at yahoo.com (SjT (Stephen J. Truog))
Date: Sun Oct 30 21:26:17 2005
Subject: [NU Sports] Michigan's d-line and some perspective
In-Reply-To: <20051031013048.3239.qmail@web51315.mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <20051031032506.6170.qmail@web52904.mail.yahoo.com>

> I agree with Paul and disagree with Steve on this
> one
> -- Michigan's defensive line made a huge difference.
> They got a rush with just four linemen rushing, a
> huge
> plus in that they could drop linebackers into
> coverage
> and not blitz d-backs. This accounted for the tight
> coverage on our shorter routes that act as "runs". 

Good point. I was thinking in pressure only and
thought the line did OK, but you're right in that they
got adequate pressure with just the line and I thought
coming in that UM would throw every blitz in the book
at us, so it did make a big difference. You guys are
right.

> We can all agree the holding penalties were
> devastating, and they all looked like good calls.

I only saw a couple and they were good calls -- but it
was just a sudden lack of consistency that irked me.
The first half was survival of the fittest. Nothing
was called and Michigan was jumping on offense and
committing a few other flag-worthy penalties you could
see from the stands. But they didn't call it and were
fair both ways - that's fine. It's fair and the
players adjust.

But then out of the locker room, it seemed like any
time we'd get a play or start the O in rhythm, a
yellow flag would come out for something that may have
been let go in the first half.

It didn't make or break the game - it's just
frustrating for players and coaches when the rules
seem to change at half and you're the one getting
called on it. A couple late flags on UM were too
little, too late in the fourth.

As for the running game, the self-inflicted penalty
wounds and UM D-line played a role ... but you still
gotta TRY! We were pretty much down around 10 points
most of the game. That's no time to abandon the
running game. We just gave up on the run and the
woefully low number of attempts shows it.

> While I was disappointed by the loss, I was not
> disheartened; this wasn't a catastrophic disaster
> like, say, Indiana in 2001. Neither should anybody

True - it's a tough loss and hurts, but wasn't a
collapse or even the ASU debacle. We just had an off
game offensively. Hopefully they got all the drops,
penalties, etc. out of their system.:) We may have
leaped too far after the wins of the last three weeks
and this was a setback but hopefully just a one-week
setback.

> Beat Iowa!

Definitely. It's been FAR too long since we've tasted
victory over those darned bumblebees!!

GO CATS!!!
-SjT

* * * * * * * * *
STEPHEN J. TRUOG
sjtruog@yahoo.com
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From jeffb at hilgraeve.com  Mon Oct 31 07:35:37 2005
From: jeffb at hilgraeve.com (Jeff Beamsley)
Date: Mon Oct 31 07:40:32 2005
Subject: [NU Sports] Putting it into perspective (fwd)
In-Reply-To: <20051030152023.86582.qmail@web33110.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <041701c5de1f$fa38b520$97492745@hilgraeve.com>

Tom wrote <snip?

The good news:

* The defense made huge strides. I have no idea how they managed to hold up
in the 2nd half, but they did. This loss was all on the offense. 

=======================

You obviously haven't seen a lot of UoM games this year.

Carr is a very conservative coach.  If it were possible to win a game 1-0,
he would. He feels much more comfortable letting his defense shut the other
team out than outscoring the other team.  I agree that our defense has been
playing much better as they gained experience through the season.  Carr's
plan in the second half of he game, however, was based on not taking any
chances, keeping NU pinned deep in their own territory, and letting the
defense continue to shut NU down.  So you saw a lot of runs up the gut and
just enough pass plays to move the chains and keep the defense honest.  He
could have put up a lot more points if he wanted to, but he knew at half
time that all he had to do is not give up the big play and he had the game
won.  That's what his team did. 

Jeff





From tkmaycock at yahoo.com  Mon Oct 31 08:16:14 2005
From: tkmaycock at yahoo.com (Tom Maycock)
Date: Mon Oct 31 08:17:22 2005
Subject: [NU Sports] Putting it into perspective (fwd)
In-Reply-To: <041701c5de1f$fa38b520$97492745@hilgraeve.com>
Message-ID: <20051031141614.67703.qmail@web33103.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

--- Jeff Beamsley <jeffb@hilgraeve.com> wrote:
> Tom wrote <snip?
> 
> The good news:
> 
> * The defense made huge strides. I have no idea how they managed to
> hold up
> in the 2nd half, but they did. This loss was all on the offense. 
> 
> =======================
> 
> You obviously haven't seen a lot of UoM games this year.
> 
> Carr is a very conservative coach.  

There's no question they played it conservatively in the 2nd half, and
wisely so in my opinion. And their passing game is nowhere near as
dangerous as, say, Penn State's. But that doesn't change the fact that
this was the best our D has played all year. Several huge stops on 3rd
and 4th down, generally good coverage, and essentially NO big plays. 

Who knows what might have happened if Michigan had been forced to heave
the ball downfield more often--we might have seen more breakdowns in
the secondary. But from what I saw, the defense played more than well
enough to win, *especially* given that they were on the field almost
the entire second half.

Tom


If it were possible to win a game
> 1-0,
> he would. He feels much more comfortable letting his defense shut the
> other
> team out than outscoring the other team.  I agree that our defense
> has been
> playing much better as they gained experience through the season. 
> Carr's
> plan in the second half of he game, however, was based on not taking
> any
> chances, keeping NU pinned deep in their own territory, and letting
> the
> defense continue to shut NU down.  So you saw a lot of runs up the
> gut and
> just enough pass plays to move the chains and keep the defense
> honest.  He
> could have put up a lot more points if he wanted to, but he knew at
> half
> time that all he had to do is not give up the big play and he had the
> game
> won.  That's what his team did. 
> 
> Jeff
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
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From jeffb at hilgraeve.com  Mon Oct 31 09:39:05 2005
From: jeffb at hilgraeve.com (Jeff Beamsley)
Date: Mon Oct 31 09:44:04 2005
Subject: [NU Sports] Putting it into perspective (fwd)
In-Reply-To: <20051031141614.67703.qmail@web33103.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <045501c5de31$39bba610$97492745@hilgraeve.com>

You only got a hint of the whole UoM playbook in their first two drives.

Once UoM got a lead and found that they could stop our offense, Carr closed
the playbook and handed the ball to his defense.  The key to the game IMHO
was their ability to play a nickel defense the whole game, still get a pass
rush, and shut down the run.  We had nothing up the middle (Watson), they
were too fast for us to get to the corner, they blew up every screen play we
tried to run, and STILL got a good pass rush.  That's because, as a result
of penalties and drops, we found ourselves in obvious passing situations way
too often.  The only way to force them to change was to complete some passes
into the seams of their zone, which we never did.  As a result, we spent the
whole second half punting and playing defense.

Carr is playing for the OSU game.  They have a bye next week and Indiana the
week after that.  So we won't see the whole playbook (and probably Hart)
until the OSU game.  Then I will guarantee you that if Hart is healthy, he
will be on the field.

Jeff




-----Original Message-----
From: nwu-sports-bounces@tssi.com [mailto:nwu-sports-bounces@tssi.com] On
Behalf Of Tom Maycock
Sent: Monday, October 31, 2005 9:16 AM
To: nwu-sports@tssi.com
Subject: RE: [NU Sports] Putting it into perspective (fwd)

--- Jeff Beamsley <jeffb@hilgraeve.com> wrote:
> Tom wrote <snip?
> 
> The good news:
> 
> * The defense made huge strides. I have no idea how they managed to 
> hold up in the 2nd half, but they did. This loss was all on the 
> offense.
> 
> =======================
> 
> You obviously haven't seen a lot of UoM games this year.
> 
> Carr is a very conservative coach.  

There's no question they played it conservatively in the 2nd half, and
wisely so in my opinion. And their passing game is nowhere near as dangerous
as, say, Penn State's. But that doesn't change the fact that this was the
best our D has played all year. Several huge stops on 3rd and 4th down,
generally good coverage, and essentially NO big plays. 

Who knows what might have happened if Michigan had been forced to heave the
ball downfield more often--we might have seen more breakdowns in the
secondary. But from what I saw, the defense played more than well enough to
win, *especially* given that they were on the field almost the entire second
half.

Tom


If it were possible to win a game
> 1-0,
> he would. He feels much more comfortable letting his defense shut the 
> other team out than outscoring the other team.  I agree that our 
> defense has been playing much better as they gained experience through 
> the season.
> Carr's
> plan in the second half of he game, however, was based on not taking 
> any chances, keeping NU pinned deep in their own territory, and 
> letting the defense continue to shut NU down.  So you saw a lot of 
> runs up the gut and just enough pass plays to move the chains and keep 
> the defense honest.  He could have put up a lot more points if he 
> wanted to, but he knew at half time that all he had to do is not give 
> up the big play and he had the game won.  That's what his team did.
> 
> Jeff
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
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From rstetson at capps-assoc.com  Mon Oct 31 07:44:23 2005
From: rstetson at capps-assoc.com (Roy Lamberton)
Date: Mon Oct 31 10:39:29 2005
Subject: [NU Sports] Michigan's d-line and some perspective
In-Reply-To: <20051031032506.6170.qmail@web52904.mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <000001c5de21$33e80d60$6500a8c0@DAVIDXP>

A couple of things:

1. I thought the game was close, they just scored 10 points on turnovers, just
what we did to MSU last week.

2. The zebras blew the call on the 12 when they spotted the out of bounds play
on the 10 for a first down.

3. I'm starting to believe that NU is once again getting into that "they can't
be that good template" with the refs, and we're getting called for things that
other teams don't get called for because NU just couldn't be that good without
holding, etc....

4. Then again, maybe Michigan's D-Line was playing that well and our guys had to
hold to give Baz another second. In a game, the O-Line coach doesn't necessarily
tell the linemen specifically how to keep the D-Line out, he just says "keep
them out." That sometimes leads to holding calls and maybe that's what actually
happened. All I know is that too many times I saw a guy in white running loose
in our backfield.

5. Michigan put in exactly the right defense to stop a spread attack, and they
have the right LB corps to pull it off. They rushed 4, and kept the LBs out in
space to stop the run, and short passing. They mixed up their coverage such that
they had most receivers covered, and Baz running for his life more than in other
games. 

I'm sure they had several guys blitzing, but I didn't note any one particular
guy. 

NU's offense runs off a progression of plays - the short dump off to Herbert and
Fields in the right flat, the inside handoff on that zone trap play up the
middle, the out pattern to Philmore, and the slant route between the safeties.
Michigan's D seemed to be able to take away virtually all of those routes,
forcing NU to go to secondary receivers. When we don't get that progression
established, we seem to break down. 

What the Michigan LBs and D-backs did do was keep to their coverages. Instead of
trying to be the hero, each guy played his man, or zone. That's how you play
defense and more important the spread. If you get drops, so much the better, but
play your guy and let the other defenders play theirs and it usually works out.

6. I love all the "legacy" talk. Hey guys RW is under contract until 2007. Lets
save all the BS legacy crap for his retirement, whenever it is, and just worry
about next week - ya know? One Game at a time, one Week at a time....

 
Go Cats, Ionize Iowa

rsl

  

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From rstetson at capps-assoc.com  Mon Oct 31 10:24:25 2005
From: rstetson at capps-assoc.com (Roy Lamberton)
Date: Mon Oct 31 10:53:59 2005
Subject: [NU Sports] NU Sports News Digest 10/31
Message-ID: <000301c5de37$8fb41b00$6500a8c0@DAVIDXP>

www.PurpleWildcats.com
for Purple Reign
& the NU Sports List

Boo - Halloween Edition

Feel spooky without a win last Saturday, but there's a lot of Football,
Recruiting, Basketball, Soccer, Cross country and 
even more Alumni News on this  2005 "Eve of All Hallows"

                                All the News that Fits We Link
                                    Your Index to News about
                                  Northwestern University Athletics

FOOTBALL

     Big Ten title out of picture, not bowl
 
http://chicagosports.chicagotribune.com/sports/college/cs-051030colfootnu,1,2814
829.story?coll=cs-college-headlines 

     Post Game Stories
     21st-Ranked Wildcats Fall to 25th-Ranked Wolverines, 33-17
      http://www.fansonly.com/schools/nw/sports/m-footbl/recaps/102905aaa.html 
     + Despite allowing 427 yards, Walker lauds defense
      http://www.suntimes.com/output/campus/cst-spt-jenn30.html 
     + NU suffers stage fright
 
http://chicagosports.chicagotribune.com/sports/college/cs-051029nugamer,1,509815
2.story?coll=cs-college-headlines 
     + SjT: NU 17 Michigan 33
      http://northwestern.scout.com/2/459623.html 
     + Strief: Line ill-prepared for Michigan
      http://www.suntimes.com/output/campus/cst-spt-nu31.html 
     + Complacency leads to line's poor play
 
http://www.dailynorthwestern.com/vnews/display.v/ART/2005/10/31/4365c817da863 
     + Week of distractions leads to unfocused performance
 
http://www.dailynorthwestern.com/vnews/display.v/ART/2005/10/31/4365bbb1c4e76 
     + NU wilts in spotlight
      http://www.dailyherald.com/sports/northwestern.asp?id=112679 
     + College Football: Inside Northwestern
 
http://news.google.com/url?sa=t&ct=us/1-0&fp=43662f4351f613b6&ei=8DNmQ925J5LgFdK
39Y0N&url=http%3A//www.dailysouthtown.com/southtown/dssports/pro/313sd5.htm&cid=
1102007069 
     + Michigan Stops Northwestern Cold
      http://jhodges.org/archives/2005/10/31/72/ 

     Players
     Wildcat Fans Can Cast a Heisman Vote for Brett Basanez
      http://www.fansonly.com/schools/nw/sports/m-footbl/spec-rel/102705aab.html

     + Loss to Michigan won't get NU down
      http://www.dailyherald.com/sports/northwestern.asp?id=112956 
     + Basanez takes blame for mishaps 
 
http://www.dailynorthwestern.com/vnews/display.v/ART/2005/10/31/4365c8f2ea61e 

     Opinion & Commentary
     + Ganguli: Wildcats squander attention
 
http://www.dailynorthwestern.com/vnews/display.v/ART/2005/10/31/4365bcadbd99b 
     + Samuels: Fair-weather fans hurt community feeling
 
http://www.dailynorthwestern.com/vnews/display.v/ART/2005/10/31/4365c74bda8ec 
     + Hodges More thoughts on this past week's game
      http://jhodges.org/archives/2005/10/31/73/ 

>From the Michigan Wolverines

     Defense Keys Football Victory at No. 21 Northwestern
      http://www.mgoblue.com/document_display.cfm?document_id=19484 
     + Wolverines put secondary 1st
 
http://chicagosports.chicagotribune.com/sports/college/northwestern/cs-051030013
8oct30,1,6782462.story?coll=cs-college-nwestern-print 
     + Northwestern Post Game: Coach Carr
      http://story.scout.com/a.z?s=179&p=2&c=459329 
     + D-cisive win for Wolverines
      http://www.suntimes.com/output/campus/cst-spt-nu30.html 
     + Michigan Inches Higher in Polls
      http://michigan.scout.com/2/459446.html 
     + Michigan Exposes Northwestern, 33-17
      http://michigan.scout.com/2/459274.html 
     + Northwestern Post Game: Coach Carr
      http://michigan.scout.com/2/459329.html 
     + Trampled: Northwestern can't hold Blue back
      http://www.michigandaily.com/vnews/display.v/ART/2005/10/31/4365c458bfcdd 
     + Edelson:Michigan's convincing win brightens team's future
      http://www.michigandaily.com/vnews/display.v/ART/2005/10/31/4365c5cfe1e2c 
     + This brand of football is familiar
 
http://www.mlive.com/wolverines/aanews/football/index.ssf?/base/sports-1/1130670
854167950.xml&coll=2 
     + Bruises and all: Youth helps U-M
      http://www.freep.com/sports/umich/um29e_20051029.htm 
     + Michigan vs. Northwestern
      http://www.freep.com/sports/umich/umscout29e_20051029.htm 
     + U-M: New Year's Day bowl is now in sight
      http://www.freep.com/sports/umich/cfbticker31e_20051031.htm 
     + U-M defense carrying team
      http://www.freep.com/sports/umich/um31e_20051031.htm 

Next Up

     Iowa Hawkeyes [11/5] 
     Iowa Idle This Week
 
http://hawkeyesports.collegesports.com/sports/m-footbl/spec-rel/102505aab.html 
     + Wine: The Hard Work Awaits
 
http://hawkeyesports.collegesports.com/sports/m-footbl/spec-rel/103005aaa.html 
     + Kirk on the Side
      http://iowa.scout.com/2/458482.html 
     + Ferentz: Iowa Preparing for Home Stretch
      http://iowa.scout.com/2/458468.html 
     + Hawkeye DB Johnson bears down on sacred Iowa mark
 
http://www.desmoinesregister.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20051031/SPORTS02050
2/510310320/1003/SPORTS 

Future Big 10 Opponents:

     @ Ohio State Buckeyes [11/12] 
     Illinois Fighting Illini [11/19]
     Illini ready to move on
 
http://chicagosports.chicagotribune.com/sports/college/cs-051030illinihoops,1,14
30589.story?coll=cs-college-headlines 

Miscellaneous Football News:

     OSU's Pittman, Wisconsin's Calhoun, Michigan's Hall and MSU's Williams
Named Players of the Week
 
http://www.fansonly.com/schools/big10/sports/m-footbl/spec-rel/103105aaa.html 
     2005 Big 10 Statistics
 
http://bigten.collegesports.com/sports/m-footbl/stats/2005-2006/confstat.html 

Recruiting

     Updating the commits:
     Brendan Mitchell Reserve football extends win record
      http://www.wra.net/newsevents/release.cfm?article=793 
     + Plain Dealer discusses the Oct. 22 football game
      http://www.wra.net/newsevents/release.cfm?article=796 

     they get a rematch with Hampton
     Brad Phillips:  Franklin Regional tops Ambridge
      http://www.post-gazette.com/pg/05302/597293.stm 
     Stefan Demos' Horizon Team beat St. Mary's 24-14

     Joe Mauro Scores Team's only TD in loss
 
http://www.dallasnews.com/sharedcontent/dws/spt/highschools/leaderboard/football
/2005/sums/HSFB-sum-64727.html 

     Phillips Is in the Fold
      http://story.scout.com/a.z?s=179&p=2&c=458936 

     Alex Loukas Stanford's Turn Coming
      http://scout.scout.com/a.z?s=179&p=9&c=2&cid=457987&nid=1758488&fhn=1 
     Aaron Nagel Illinois junior to watch
      http://scout.scout.com/a.z?s=179&p=9&c=2&cid=458519&nid=2241621&fhn=1 
     Sean McWhirter Talks Michigan State and more.
      http://scout.scout.com/a.z?s=179&p=9&c=2&cid=459533&nid=1761612&fhn=1 
     Jon Asamoah Huskies score OL target
      http://scout.scout.com/a.z?s=179&p=9&c=2&cid=459541&nid=2233994&fhn=1 


BASKETBALL

     ESPN's Michael Wilbon Highlights 2005 Halloween HOOP-La Saturday Oct. 29
      http://www.fansonly.com/schools/nw/sports/m-baskbl/spec-rel/102005aab.html

     Spartans the favorite in deeper conference
      http://www.suntimes.com/output/campus/cst-spt-bignt31.html 
     + Michigan State Named Men's Basketball Preseason Favorite By Media
 
http://www.fansonly.com/schools/big10/sports/m-baskbl/spec-rel/103005aab.html 

     Skip Myslenski: Move to point will test Illini's Brown
 
http://chicagosports.chicagotribune.com/sports/college/northwestern/cs-051030022
1oct30,1,4095479.column?coll=cs-college-nwestern-print 

CROSS COUNTRY

     Wildcats Compete At Big Ten Championships
      http://www.fansonly.com/schools/nw/sports/w-xc/recaps/103005aaa.html 
     Wisconsin, Michigan Repeat as Big Ten Cross Country Champions
      http://www.fansonly.com/schools/big10/sports/m-xc/spec-rel/103005aaf.html 

FIELD HOCKEY

     No. 1 Wake Forest Blanks Northwestern, 7-0
      http://www.fansonly.com/schools/nw/sports/w-fieldh/recaps/102905aab.html 

SOCCER

     Men
     Northwestern Set to Host 2005 Big Ten Men's Soccer Championship
      http://www.fansonly.com/schools/nw/sports/m-soccer/spec-rel/102805aad.html

     Kevin Earnest Hits Late Goal in Northwestern's 2-1 Win Over Butler
      http://www.fansonly.com/schools/nw/sports/m-soccer/recaps/103005aad.html 

     Women
     Badgers' late goal ends NU's season
 
http://www.dailynorthwestern.com/vnews/display.v/ART/2005/10/31/4365c575ec5db 

VOLLEYBALL

     Christie Gardner Sets Career Digs Record; NU Falls, 3-0
      http://www.fansonly.com/schools/nw/sports/w-volley/recaps/102905aac.html 

  ALUMNI

     Luis Castillo Cargers defeat the Chiefs 28-20
      http://www.chargers.com/news/headline_detail.cfm?news_key=2393 
     $ Chargers defense plugs in young playmakers
      http://chargers.scout.com/2/459665.html 

     PGA: [Links on Player's Name is their live scorecard]
     Luke Donald -
 
http://scores.europeantour.com/scorecard.sps?iTourNo=2005076&iPlayerNo=30357&iTo
urID=1 
     finished tied for 3rd at -7 at The Volvo Masters Andalucia
      http://www.sponsorship.volvo.com/vma2004/ 
     McGinley Victorious at Valderrama as Montgomerie Captures Order of Merit
 
http://www.europeantour.com/tournaments/fullreport.sps?iTourno=2005076&id=114540
4&iTourID=1 
     + Final results & prize money
      http://www.europeantour.com/Tournaments/leaderboard.sps?iTourNo=2005076 
     + Final round video highlights
      http://www.europeantour.com/mediaworld/get_asset.sps?iImageID=1145417 

     Luke finishes 12th
     Final 2005 European Tour Order of Merit
      http://www.europeantour.com/stats/OrderOfMerit.sps?iTourID=1 

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From BSchooler at aol.com  Mon Oct 31 14:37:28 2005
From: BSchooler at aol.com (BSchooler@aol.com)
Date: Mon Oct 31 14:41:24 2005
Subject: [NU Sports] Is this the Walker legacy? (fwd)
Message-ID: <fb.7c7c3d8f.3097da88@aol.com>

In a message dated 10/30/2005 12:27:44 AM Central Standard Time, 
nolan@romaine.tssi.com writes:

> >He appears to be well-respected by his players.
> 
> I did not get that impression in the two seasons following Wheeler's death.
> If that's changed, that's very good news, if it stays that way.  
> 

This is a critical point Mike has made. If most of the players have a good 
experience playing for Walker and Northwestern, then I'm essentially pleased 
with the job Walker is doing. If most of the players do not have a good 
experience playing for Walker and Northwestern, then Walker may not be a good fit in 
Evanston. As posted previously, Mark Murphy said when he was hired that this is 
as important as wins and losses in evaluating a coach's performance.

Northwestern has the chance to be solid for years to come. We have a lot of 
young players who are already contributing. A first year QB will probably hold 
us back next year, but the 2007 season could be a very good one. That is, IF 
we don't get the extraordinary number of kids who quit the team which is, 
unfortunately, another Walker legacy. It would also be nice if we could just once 
begin a season with a team that is healthy; not beaten up. And no, the 
extraordinary number of defections and injuries do NOT happen at every school on 
yearly basis.

Bob Schooler   
From trip72 at comcast.net  Mon Oct 31 17:39:57 2005
From: trip72 at comcast.net (trip72@comcast.net)
Date: Tue Nov  1 20:12:12 2005
Subject: [NU Sports] (no subject)
Message-ID: <103120052339.24933.4366AB4C000B8EF7000061652200735446CDC99F079D9B@comcast.net>

The debate on Walker is meaningless.  Bienen is hooked on both Walker and Carmody and neither will be discharged regardless of their records during his tenure as NU president. 

What Walker does need to do is fire the defensive coordinator the minute the season is over.  For years, with a limited exception when Howard was young and healthy, we had been unable to recruit defensive linemen who can put pressure on the opposing quarterback.  We therefore need a creative defensive coordinator who will alternatve looks, defensives, will periodically use blitzes etc. How many times this year have our opponents had third or four downs with more than three yars to go and converted and gotten first downs? 30? 40? 75% of the time.  It is apparent our opponents know exactly what our defensive will do and is must be relatively easy to defeat.  The offensive uses an unorthodox approach to make up for talent deficiencies; the time has come for a more creative defense. 
