[NU Sports] Our 2005 schedule in retrospect ...

Jeff Beamsley jeffb at hilgraeve.com
Sun Nov 27 10:59:36 CST 2005


 Lloyd Carr isn't the most social guy either, but he also does a lot of
speaking during the off season at Alumni groups around the country.  He
understands that part of his responsibility is to promote the program to
those patrons who have the money to support it.

>From what I've heard, RW could improve in this area too.

Jeff

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From: nwu-sports-bounces at tssi.com [mailto:nwu-sports-bounces at tssi.com] On
Behalf Of Michael Vance
Sent: Sunday, November 27, 2005 1:02 AM
To: nwu-sports at romaine.tssi.com
Subject: RE: [NU Sports] Our 2005 schedule in retrospect ...

Unless I'm wrong, this goes back to the University's (in)ability to properly
market NU athletics.  I know that technically, the coach has to agree to do
a coach's show, but whose job is it to pitch the idea to a local station?
We had the Gary Barnett Show on SportsChannel way back when, and I think we
even had the Randy Walker Show for a season or two after that.  Then it went
to the Seven-Minutes-At-The-End-Of-The-Sunday-Sports-Show with Randy Walker
for a season or two, then nothing.  I don't care when it airs (the old GB
show was on at something like 3:00 in the afternoon and the Lloyd Carr Show
is on Sunday morning last I heard), just get something on the air!

If we aren't doing it because RW doesn't like to do a coach's show, then Mr.
Murphy needs to tell him how it has to be.  I don't want a media hound for a
coach either, but a coach has to be able to sell his program, not just to
recruits, but to fans as well.

If we aren't doing a show because we can't sell the idea of 30 minutes
devoted to NU sports to any of the local broadcast or cable stations, then
we've got serious marketing problems at the University.

-Michael

At 11/26/2005 10:11 PM, SjT \(Stephen J. Truog\) wrote:
> > Finally you have to look at what RW is doing to generate revenue for 
> > the program in the same ways that every BT coaches
>
>I know that's technically part of the coach's job, but I really think 
>our problems run deeper than a head coach here. We've all discussed the 
>factors ... many of which Walker is powerless to change (early start 
>times, pro sports city, etc.). His teams are exciting and he's building 
>a winning tradition. If that doesn't earn more fans in our situation, 
>who knows what will (I see from the Stanford-ND game that Stanford is 
>remodeling their stadium and shrinking it to 50,000 or so ... I don't 
>think we need to shrink Dyche, but you see the problems they have in a 
>pro market with many more alumni nearby than NU has ... on a side note, 
>flipping channels, maybe our NC game at Nevada next year isn't a 
>gimme).
>
> > because they generate a lot of money.  There are plenty of 
> > no-nonsense all-football coaches who have figured out how to do this 
> > (Carr, Tressel, Ferentz, etc.).
>
>Not sure I buy this. Carr walked into his situation and really hasn't 
>had to do much (or done much) to deal with the off-field state of the 
>program. And all Tressel did was beat Michigan (which was enough in
>Columbus:) ). These guys all had ready-made situations to step into and 
>really don't face the situation or circumstances Walker does.
>
>Again, I know you don't want a total a-hole who alienates fans ... but 
>so what if the guy's not Mr.
>Personality flashing a smile around town. The media may love that guy 
>for 15 minutes, but the sword is double-edged and can turn fast (ask 
>Barnett or Neuheisel). I don't want a snake-oil salesman. I want 
>someone who builds a winning program, and if Walker does that by 
>thriving on an "us vs. them" and tight-shipped atmosphere that doesn't 
>exactly win him personality points, fine with me.

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